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Joe Budden Podcast Episode 100, “100,” released February 15, 2017. Episode 100!!!!!!! Can't say we thought we'd be doing this for a 100 weeks. Joe, Mal, Ice, and Rory sit down to discuss Jim vs Cam, the new Dipset, Grammy's, rappers dating the same women, Chance & Frank Ocean's independence, and more! Thank you all for tuning in for 100 episodes!! Sleeper Picks Of The Week: Mal: Tee Grizzley "First Day Out" | www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4oGd60G--Q Ice: TEC & Mane Musik "Ain't No Coming Down" | www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqNtk6GEGW4 Joe: SiR "The Canvas" | www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jem9AyL4KQ4 Rory: ODESZA "All We Need" | www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oi4Cf6lkDr4 Full transcript and searchable timestamps below.

Joe Budden Podcast Ep. 100 Transcript
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are we on Rory start the [ __ ] Birthday music dick face St [ __ ] it's
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not our birthday though 100 does not mean birthday turn it I don't want to hear 50 and not you I
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know you thought you was 50 in Queens and O2 but I did hey Ro dead ass was running around
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calling himself Roy Banks I was actually part of gun though
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I confirmed every time I play a song to set the mood turn it down Rory every time I play a song that set the mood
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dumb face Rory ruins the mood because I don't want it to get [ __ ] taken down that's why every time you say that it
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never goes anywhere because I'm continuing to talk over it never [ __ ] goes no they don't care anymore you say
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that chance just shouted out SoundCloud on the Grammy stage but it's his music they're not taking a hey SoundCloud
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artists people upload it all they're not suing you they're not
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taking it down it's over no you can they in now this is all SoundCloud has been
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waiting for was a in to be looked at to not be looked at as the SoundCloud
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rappers the SoundCloud singers the SoundCloud uh Community as a whole how
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many years have they been looked down upon and I didn't even want to start there I don't want to start there people stop [ __ ] with them because they were
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taking down so much [ __ ] that's why people sto [ __ ] with them that's where they made default they didn't fight the labels and say all right we'll
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pay you if we can keep some of this [ __ ] the sound yeah SoundCloud y'all [ __ ] up that's they [ __ ] up the SoundCloud office is in New York I didn't know that
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until [ __ ] E1 made me go up there one day I hate E1 I'm going to audit E1 E1
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y'all got an audit coming from me soon soon as I can afford to audit y'all it's coming now I didn't want to start there
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happy 100 I'll name this podcast later episode 100 across from me is Rory and a
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zar [ __ ] Maul and [ __ ] ice is here who doesn't do podcast episode one now I
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invite ice was here last week I only invited him here this week when I feel like Maul didn't look at none of this
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[ __ ] that I want to talk about that's really when I invite ice yeah cuz I don't do podcast when I when I feel like
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Maul's just GNA come here and just [ __ ] around cuz mo didn't watch the Grammys I know he didn't watch the Grammys I know
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who won I mean I saw the highlights yeah I know who won wait I say the mall as as
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we're riding over here m you seen Jimmy and cam [ __ ] now mind you I don't like to talk about the content
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because I want to keep it fresh Mo you seen the Jimmy and cam [ __ ] nah but I heard about it yeah oh okay oh you se
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you seen the Grammys [ __ ] we wouldn't let Mo forget in the group chat while it was happening show let's start right
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there can I get a lighter Joe so I can light my Victory Cigar Victory well it's the 100 that was
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so right hey Rory 50 Cent give us some [ __ ]
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birthday stv1 you got the [ __ ] laptop mon but [ __ ] God why is the 100th the
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birth it's just a birthday it's not a birthday it's not a birthday that's what I'm confused it's a milestone it's not
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it's a birthday is this exactly one year ago yeah ice do you know when we did our
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first podcast no I don't follow podcast so you don't know if this is our birthday or not I asked a question yes
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it's our birthday okay well happy birthday podcast even if it's not our birthday because it's my
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podcast can you turn your [ __ ] I got balls [ __ ] I got balls
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[ __ ] I got balls [ __ ] cut that off now no that see see how this podcast is so
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dope we got a segue by mistake cuz I wanted to start on Mall's bars this is
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my solutioned cam and Gem wait how did it go from Cam and Jim
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Cam and Jim Cam and Jim listen oh I feel I could talk for five
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hours alone on just YouTube I don't even know where to
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start well I'll start Maul did you own a Tricky Ricky t-shirt no Maul where you
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from are you I don't know if you're from the Bronx or Harlem because they both are called up town well just say both I
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lived in the Bronx but all right so you're from Harlem in my story but yeah all right so my family from H so did you
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listen to dip set yeah yes of course were you sad about dip huh he was in Dip
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set well I'm getting to there I'm getting to there um so you did were you
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sad about the breakup yeah I would like to know what hip-hop breakups you were sad sad about
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this is this is high up there right this might be Jimmy and cam dipet absolutely yeah Jay and Dame is one they're both
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friends to the show uh our adoration for dipet is well documented now a lot of
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this stuff that they discussed I already knew right I'm sure that some of y'all well no maybe not y'all listening but
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some people already knew a lot of this stuff uh what did y'all get from any of
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this well let's start with Jimmy let's start with Jimmy's interview with flex first before we get into
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Cam's uh whole situation I think it was interesting we knew that Jimmy and him obviously had a problem but to see
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someone who has been the Goon if you will of Dipset breakdown in that type of
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way and discuss their relationship B bre down huh you going use the word
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breakdown think appropriate yeah I didn't mean negative he got emotional yeah I he didn't break down like he
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wasn't balling no pun no but certainly was upset about how he had been treated within that friendship for years it's
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not what it is is when you when you are as close as Jimmy and cam were and you
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know he just got to a point it just emotion cuz it hurts it's like [ __ ] you my brother like you know what I'm saying
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so and I'm saying real [ __ ] right now and I'm speaking and you know you start reliving the things that you went through like it was a lot of things that
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you know Jimmy front lined and Jimmy put his neck out for like real Street [ __ ]
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and to feel like all of that was for nothing and now y'all don't even speak that [ __ ] hurts that would hurt anybody
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that was really friends like we like brothers like you wore my clothes you slept in my house I slept in your house
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like you know what I'm saying like when we was on a road and nobody respected Dip set I was the one jumping in the crowd punching [ __ ] in their face like
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that type of [ __ ] that hurts when you look years later and you like yo we don't even speak anymore that [ __ ] hurts
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and I understood where it was coming from for Jim yeah and we I mean we know we don't know cam but we know how cam
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has operated in the public eye I didn't think he would react the same way with that tweet gramar whatever I still think
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it's hilarious that Camron still uses tweet gram but yeah me too him saying
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I'll tell everything except I won't be crying to kind of put Jimmy down even more I thought was even more distasteful
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especially coming from him even though we know he is like a guy that jokes a lot cam comes across to me as somebody
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that is afraid to be vulnerable I can see that like he doesn't want to let his
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guard like Jimmy went up there that interview he didn't give a [ __ ] you know he let his guard down he he he told it
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what it was he spoke from his heart how he really felt and I think cam is still standing behind this too cool [ __ ] yeah
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for sure you know what I'm saying and you don't you don't play that card when it's your brother it's okay to be vulnerable when speaking about my
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brother when speaking about my family well when cam was doing the the Instagram live [ __ ] he even said during
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his story this is corny that I'm doing this right this is corny that we doing
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this right especially when a [ __ ] got my phone number right that part get though the whole
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that that's where you got my phone number because cam has always been making it his business to point out the
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fact that I got you blocked on [ __ ] I got you like like we don't yeah he might have his phone number but the way cam
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presents everything is almost like can he really reach out to you if he want to I want y'all to tell me who y'all think
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is full of [ __ ] here I don't want to sugarcoat any of this uh there there's three sides every
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story I don't know if anybody's full of [ __ ] shut the [ __ ] up all right just stop if both all y'all [ __ ] lost y'all nuts so let me talk no no no no no no y
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lost y nuts hold hold on I'm not saying anybody is I wouldn't say full of [ __ ] but I would say in this situation like I
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said I think Jim was the more he was really speaking from I believed everything all right listen because
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y'all don't want to be real [ __ ] then shut the [ __ ] up and let me talk no cuz I don't want to do that cam you don't
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know that making a a Tricky Ricky t-shirt for your [ __ ] man is wow but
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wait but wait Tom out that's not even the part that I was wild at I don't even care about that you get a t-shirt [ __ ]
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play around you joke around have a blast right dog when he said you told me you
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wasn't doing nothing with bird gang so I went so I copyrighted it yeah I
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would have [ __ ] him up immediately I'm [ __ ] you up what are you talking I don't care if you my brother you getting
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[ __ ] up immediately yeah that's why I say I don't understand that I get Jim saying he stole Millions I mean it could
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have been Millions it could have been somebody makes sense of Cam publishing
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bird gang for me now from what I saw the reac copyrighting the re the reactions to that people defending cam by saying
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well he asked Jim what what you doing with I don't give a agree I'm agreeing with you what he asked him I'm agreeing
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with you but this is the defense I'm seeing is well he asked him what he was doing Jim said oh listen this is just
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another nickname for dip set so cam like all right if you're not making no movement or running with it I'mma do it
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so now stop cuz I don't want a very important message to get lost here kids build your brand and copyright it absolutely the
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Patriots copyright everything that they think might be applicable B 20 years
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from now right they just they just uh added two more I don't remember but
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they're not they're not they're not applicable yet Blitz for six yeah and no days off which is wild because the dude
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uh stretch on Twitter been doing no days off Fitness shirts and everything for the last year and a half Well w was
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doing that [ __ ] well before them well art I mean every artist own your [ __ ] build your brand continue to add value
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to your brand I just want to tell you that I mean I totally understand business business is business and of course people get snaked in business but
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I still hold morally to me I don't do that to my mans I'll say you know what Jimmy I'll go in with you and copyright
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it cuz I obviously have been in this game a lot longer than you on the business side that's dumb let's copyright it it all comes down to you
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know when you're crew and your team everybody gets a plate you know what I'm saying so Jim that's your plate you know
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what I'm saying I'm not going that's yours you know what I'm saying and and if you feel like he was moving wrong
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with it yo this is what you need to do Jim copyright it this is yours this your get this [ __ ] bubbling I didn't like
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that period I didn't like I didn't like cam saying that if Jim put uh Stack's
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album out and Max be's project out that their Futures might have been different
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I thought that was some real sucker [ __ ] it's tasteless yeah yeah it's classless and as a cam fan
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killer like I go back to Children of the Corn right like y'all was talking my
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[ __ ] I'm I'm I start at Harlem I don't want Jersey people to get this misconstrued my projects is 1809 that's
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freaky zeki's projects I go back with all the people that they name Bloodshed Big L [ __ ] I can I was sitting at school
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and S on all of this Harlem history and I'm like God damn I'm a harlem [ __ ] on the L and shout out to all the Harlem
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people cuz it was a harlem chat room in the install it definitely was I was was in London just watching uh I seen Rory's
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[ __ ] ass and making jokes flirting with [ __ ] you get in trouble flirting withit [ __ ] got stuff trying to flirt with
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[ __ ] on the insta comments and [ __ ] uh but yeah I saw ice in there I saw a
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bunch of Harlem hoes in there that was like one big New York chat room I didn't like that uh comment from uh Cam and it
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brought me back my memory is bad but it brought me back to the many conversations I had with stack yeah
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about Jim mhm because stack when he was he wanted to know you know he was frustrated with clue mhm and he was like
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listen I'm heating up out here I have records I have a bunch of Records clue you already know if anybody know you
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know but Jim is talking this over here what you think and me and Jim I think had had tension at one
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point not not nothing serious but like [ __ ] tension I don't I don't know I don't even remember if that's true but I
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remember that only because I said you should [ __ ] with Jim go over there seems like he's building a roster it seems
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like your style fits that fits that fits that there I remember when uh when
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Hustler's poem Jim's first album they was stack was in the quarter and uh me and bigs went to the studio to hear it
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like Jim told bigs yo let's go uh come to the studio to hear the album and stack was in it and I remember sitting
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talking with stack and I'm like yo man I've been a fan of yours for years like and he was telling me he was like yo like this situation is great at pop like
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this is it yeah you know what I'm saying like me Jim like you know and that's when he they played the uh the record
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with him stack and Wayne they played that I told stack I said dog you out of here I do believe that and I didn't like
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that comment because I do believe that Jim had every intention on doing something with stack and Max yeah they
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was on all these [ __ ] records I don't care if they was Jim records I don't care if they was gym records right not only that he put a mix like ain't that
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how it's supposed to [ __ ] go anyway what are you talking about your people under you yeah and
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also I didn't like how cam kind of just downplayed like Jimmy was never there we we watched I mean granted I wasn't in
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your circle but dog I saw you with Jim Jones for [ __ ] 15 years you're making it seem like he popped up around the
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Rockefeller deal yeah yeah cam you can't cam you can't tell us that I get it
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people think that you and Jim grew up together but when you say no we didn't but we met at around 19 [ __ ] y'all grew
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up together yeah hell yeah that's you're still growing at that age absolutely so listening to this Cam and Jimmy [ __ ] you
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know and because I'm so self-centered I just relate it all back to me my biopic
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would be better than [ __ ] think cuz it it wouldn't be about me let me be clear
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first of all is the word biopic or biopic biopic I don't like biopic biopic I'm saying that that way um but I don't
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want to confuse the listeners but my biopic wouldn't be about me right it would be
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about why I what I've seen in the music industry so I remember that deal and I
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remember the Cameron uh Rockefeller signing party at Limelight mhm when me
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and Dill bum rushed over there cuz I was on Def Jam but nobody knew who I was they was popping at Limelight that might
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have been the last good party at Limelight now that I'm thinking about it all the hoes Rangers mink jewelry they
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was rocking but the word there was Jay was mad then M everybody talking about
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Jay was coming in line like no he ain't what are y'all talking about Jay and Dame was at odds then not odds but we
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knew something was he felt the tension what so I loved hearing that story about
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the old boy the old boy beat the beat CD the just blade [ __ ] because I believe I just was there and I remember all of
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that [ __ ] MH but the fact that this Garner so much attention
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now now today right and even cam at the end of it he
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posted the numbers from his live stream and he said this is all during preg Grammy and you know what whatever was
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going on obviously people still have have a genuine well New Yorkers yeah
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yeah have a genuine concern and and we're invested in Dip set right yeah but it's not even so much New Yorkers cuz
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even when you go out of town the first thing when they say you from New York oh why you not dressed like Jim like the
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girls say that like why you not dressed like Jim Jones why you don't you know cam you know and it's like I don't know
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what girls you're talking to no this this no but you no them [ __ ] are saying that to dipet if people never
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been to New York Dip set is what I agree is what I'm saying I agree they
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they they think that that's how you supposed to talk that's how you supposed to walk that's how you supposed to dress I know so when you tell me that y'all
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have friction and y'all will never speak again because the [ __ ] fell in love you
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made some T-shirts yeah that's crazy you you [ __ ] copyrighted his brand after he tried to escape the brand from from
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uh the brand that you had full control of it's real hard to be grateful and have an attitude that's what I got from
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Jimmy [ __ ] it looked like he's extremely grateful for all that cam has done and it looks like he's hurt he's hurt at how
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it fell apart yeah he's hurt because he was he felt like he was the loyal one like yo I thought you was my brother and
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you making it seem like oh you this we was just cool so now was my brother all so now I bring It full circle and this
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interview has giv me such a better understanding of Jim Jones yeah Jim Jones's entire career is Full of Hurt
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yeah what really stuck out to me and I I didn't notice until Jim said it was that cam had never been to a Jim Jones Show
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and then and cam didn't admit to that but he didn't deny it right yeah he
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didn't admit to it but he didn't deny it so now if I have to guess
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here I I feel like yeah there was some friction from some maybe [ __ ] that happened Jim did go to E1 to get his own
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[ __ ] yeah I'm sure whatever dipet had going on helped him get a better deal MH but he went over there to escape build
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his own [ __ ] [ __ ] I could see cam hating on that mhm I could not hating I
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could see cam feeling way that balling is the biggest Song Ever from that
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Collective yeah bigger than old boy bigger than whatever why yeah why if
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your man is doing well and obviously you're top I don't understand I would never feel some type of way about my man
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blowing up like that's crazy everybody can say that because it's very it's not
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easily disproven and that's why I put much weight to it when people say that news flash people are mad at their man
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every single day yeah every single day people are mad at their man doing better
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than them just because your heart is full of all this morality and these values don't think that that's happening
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in I get that I get that so and I'm sure if you think hard enough you could think of some people in your head that's that
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maybe have feelings toward their man that's doing better I can name some right now I know it exists I'm just saying I cannot I don't I can never
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understand it though I know it exists but I can never understand that that never enters my mind if my man blows up
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I'm mad that I don't even understand that thought process we want that if you
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blow up [ __ ] we all hot we we all hot I'mma [ __ ] some of the same [ __ ] that's you can't [ __ ] all the [ __ ]
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you know what I'm saying you can't drive all the cars like I'm going to have a derange one day when you got the BS like that's just my thought like and I'm
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doing amazing yeah like and I'm eating too I'm the second rapper on Rockefeller at the moment yeah I'm not mad at I
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don't understand that like we all if if you blow I blow [ __ ] we all the the we the crew our crew is hot it's Dip set
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it's bird gang [ __ ] we all hot I don't understand that thought process I'm sorry no no time out no no no no no when
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certified gangster came out with game no the rough when the rough came out
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certified gangster the rough came first M yeah I remember that's right cam was cold as a [ __ ] mhm
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nobody cared about cam if I'm am I lying no no what what
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was that 0 no certifi we certified that
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was definely 078 708 no certified gang ganger is
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0708 yes Google it we have computer I was in high school when balling came out and I was out of high school in
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2008 certified gangster was we don't ever have to argue we all have computers
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it it's way more fun to argue fig you fig you fig the album came out 04 so the
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rough had to be before that it's damn yeah I knew I'm not bugging Jim Jim's
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first balling wasn't until like 06 I'm way older than I thought yeah that's crazy all right so wait time out all
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right so I take that back cam is still on our mind [ __ ]
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man now cam is the man still at that point at least in New York when baby girl comes out is Cam the man is Cam
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thought of no my point is there was a time in Jim's career where Jim was Numero Uno frontman
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dip absolutely agree and cam was in Ohio because everybody thought that [ __ ]
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ran him to Ohio which is why he addressed it right like cam addressed a
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lot of [ __ ] he addressed a whole lot I just won't ever understand if Rory tell
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me yo I'm starting Henny paloa uh h paloa I don't even if I'm
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start he's starting Jameson paloa and I go home and [ __ ]
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copyright it I'm beating the dog [ __ ] out of myself I don't get that I don't
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get that I don't get that so y'all fans could cosign that [ __ ] under the comments and all of that
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listen that's nuts to me that's nuts I don't see out and I I do want to point
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one of Jimmy's faults which was a discussion on the timeline was the loyalty and the fault of that cuz even
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through that [ __ ] Jimmy was still very publicly loyal and I just think some people are built with that code and
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feel really uncomfortable doing otherwise can we chime in with two of the greatest Royce bars ever that apply
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to everybody what's the [ __ ] loyalty [ __ ] two bars that are the greatest bars ever that I stole from him it
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was down the fall with people I find as loyal as me which is probably why L is my D I'm like royalty around y'all down
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the fall with [ __ ] I feel are as loyal as me which is probably why loyalty is
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my downfall it applies to so many artists
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so many artists I do believe that Jimmy has that Jimmy has been
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uh a victim of his own loyalty I do believe that let me tell let me tell you one thing I took from that interview I
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took from let me tell you one thing I did take from that interview though and and I'll end it at this I hate cancers
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you hate what canc cancers I hate [ __ ] so yeah me neither I had zero
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idea that Jim was a Cancer and I'm watching this interview saying Jim seems a little
- 23:11
sensitive I I don't think he was being sensitive at all I heard that's a lot of built up that's [ __ ] 15 years of
- 23:17
built up aggression and it finally comes back that's not sensitivity that's just hurt whoa I agree with you I'm saying in
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points of his story it was Sensitivity I was able to see
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where it was Jimmy is sensitive Jimmy is hurt that's what I'm saying I could so I
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I asked myself I bet he's a cancer I bet he's a cancer to react like that even in
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cam story when when he said the [ __ ] was like uh I don't care if I don't care if it don't make sense I ain't trying I
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ain't with that logic sh I ain't trying to be logical right now that's a cancer statement that is an emotional cancer
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but I won't I won't stay there but yeah Jesus cancers are so motion I don't get along with him uh I support I support
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some type of Oakley Dolan fix and reunion well they lifted the yeah
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accordingly they met with Michael Jordan Michael Jordan Dolan Oley the band is lifted that's my point I'm looking for
- 24:14
some type of resolve with dip uh make him the undercard on uh on Soulja Boy
- 24:19
and Chris Brown I don't want to see either of them [ __ ] fight no I meant Dolan and Oakley I didn't mean no they pieced it up already I don't want to see
- 24:26
them fight either I want to see what is the resolution here I do I do think they they need to just to two of them go in a
- 24:32
room and fight it out just nobody got to see it nobody got fight over what just get it all out they love each other and
- 24:37
get it out though get it out get it out get it out I don't want to see a j iing we don't we're not supposed to see it I don't want to see a cam and Jim fight
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don't like I said we're not supposed to see it that's just something they got some [ __ ] towards each other Jim feel
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hurt but problem cam keep poking fun at him while he's hurt y'all go solve that
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but I think that's the issue that it's gotten out to the public I think it was Philly that tweeted something along the lines when you play [ __ ] out in the
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public you're almost forced to rewrite history cuz now you're trying to make yourself look good in every situation
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you have two people I'm not you're you're not I you don't care how you look not not I I know people think that I do
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a lot for attention I there's a lot I don't do for for that same reason think
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what the [ __ ] y'all want to think but that's the problem when and that's why I said there's three sides to every story as much as I do believe Jim more than
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cam obviously there two people that are now forced to cater to The public's opinion with what actually happened all
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right so enough about Jimmy and cam let's fast forward how do we feel about Jim Jones Rock
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Nation uh pictures uh he was at the Rock Nation party prey party in La yeah how
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was that brunch cut his beard M we had our on the on the scene we had our on
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the scene I'll name this podcast later sports reporter and Hip-Hop reporter Maul right there to tell us what's going
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on how are the eggs was the bacon crispy enough how are the eggs I don't know
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nothing about what y speak tell us nothing about what him and [ __ ] lenes got going on all
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I I need to get a Rock Nation contract while he printing these [ __ ] I think
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that's super dope for Jim I think it is too honestly I think that's a super doe I just need a deal now I think it's a
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testament of yo listen we go through [ __ ] you know beefs and not [ __ ] with
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[ __ ] but come full circle let's [ __ ] let's make money if we got opportunity to make some money together let's make
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money together and I'm glad you said that so we'll end this with this I'll
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say one thing real quick before you do that only thing I do find funny about that whole gy Rock Nation thing is you
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signed that and still haven't spoken to Jay-Z like I who said that he did he said it well obviously they spoke at the
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brunch but yeah it just I mean it just happened by by the interview came out before the brunch they yeah but you was
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signed they apparently definitely spoke at the brunch sign before but [ __ ] the brunch you were signed without y'all
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should have had a that shouldn't be funny though no a conversation is coming yeah it's definitely
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happening oh yes you are shut up iin I talk so much [ __ ] shut the [ __ ] up you are signing without here you are signing
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get the [ __ ] out of here have a talk you know mo
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[Music] vad moo who else Mills and J
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Mills the new Dip set bring bringing the city back yes not the new dip got to really smoke dip though no hell no the
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[ __ ] out of here come on [ __ ] you talking y'all got to really smoke dip oh y'all not want you not down for that nah
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not at all bro Jr Ryder Fred the godson you got actually a little Squad Fred
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from the Bronx though Fred ain't from so are you that's true the Bronx and Harlem same [ __ ] all right so fine Mo doesn't
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want to be dipet whatever I tried um the grams damn IM imag you what skipped over
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that I had to skipped over what the Grammys I had the theme music for Maul introducing the new Dip set but oh let
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me hear well to they're going to have to remix this it's going to be rebuilt this city
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again these [ __ ] had records man rebuilt this city we rebuilt this city that's the heat makers might have had
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the fastest fallof I've ever seen but I can't even say that because as a group
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once they stop once dipet stop oh he makas had
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heat Rory Rory Rory Rory Rory Rel the glory a lot of noise Happ that's the
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energy I was looking for from you and aab some [ __ ] like that to start
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happening like get back to that sound as a New Yorker East coaster like when you
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say that sound what do you mean that sound like that high pitch samples like yeah like sped up samples that yeah that
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sound right there to is golden to New Yorkers yeah yeah that's why but I'm saying for you and AAP to do a mixtape
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like that ask that would be real cool when I'm 50 that would be crazy when I'm 50 we'll do that and I've been out of
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town and I really mean it bangs off like set records that sound still goes no I I
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I agree from them and I don't even know if from them today well where does this leave uh jeels I mean I know he didn't
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watch it because kimella doesn't let him open his Instagram but where do we think joelle's is with all
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this good Joel's just waiting for the phone call for a tour let's get let's get let's get to I
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know I don't understand artists that don't tour Joel's him and I came in the game together he doesn't tour Fab don't
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tour but he gets bags I don't understand artists that don't tour so now joelle's
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career if I'm not going to listen to Kimbell on Love & Hip Hop because I'm not joelle's career kind of has got
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gotten thrown and lost in the in all the midst of dip set residue
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yeah does he still have his contract and then he went and broke Little Wayne pretty much oh man this is all
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[ __ ] bad that's exactly what happened well
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anyways and then and then we got snap music in result of all of that falling apart I would like for them [ __ ] to
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get it together because I think they're really important uh for not just New York hip-hop but hip-hop as a whole I
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think they both are still very capable I don't know if that's Cam's flow right
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now I don't think that's really his do you guys remember that they were supposed to do the [ __ ] with uh at Trak
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they put out that Dipset [ __ ] that was great with at TR they put a video out with it uh this was like two years ago
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and then he put out another record with a track that was amazing that they then took down off the internet you can't find it anywhere like there and it was
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all around that similar sound that built we built this city sound so there at one point they was trying to do something
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and it sounded the first two records sounded amazing and then they disappeared man y'all [ __ ] get it together and go do [ __ ] uh uh bird
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gang money part two or [ __ ] dipet Anthem Part Two or just let get it together man put an EP out stream it
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something title exclusive I don't know I don't have the anwers they keep they've tried it though they keep trying it they've done that they come back and do
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a couple records announced theunion tour yeah dip [ __ ] dip shits was great they they re they announced a reunion tour
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they do a couple spot cities and then disappear again all right well I don't care enough to keep talking about them let's get to the
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Grammys I enjoyed this year uh they were a little [ __ ] long are they Round of Applause Round of Applause I think the
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Grammys got it right this year I agree oh I'm the only one clapping all right uh all right whatever uh I think the
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Grammys got it right this year for a change uh tribe phenomenal I rewatched
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it again that [ __ ] performance was unbelievable by far my favorite of the night even with the Prince Tribute you
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even with [ __ ] bust on stage we loved it well there's a stage bus is gonna find
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it if you can if you could build if you could build a stage Buster will find Buster is the greatest shout out if you
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build it Buster will come yeah but that stage is where Buster should have been that's why I'm not mad at it Maul did
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you see it no of course not nope I heard about it let's tune in our expert Maul
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Maul did you see it no noever heard about it all right cool oh he he diss trumped no one had dis trumped the whole
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night Buster was the only one to do it no Michael Jackson's daughter mentioned it briefly uh the Dakota pipeline she
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did that was great to see Michael Jackson's daughter chance was phenomenal tribe was phenomenal Beyonce was great
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[ __ ] uh sin had a contion watching the [ __ ] TV uh Bruno Mars is
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different yeah he bed that he destroyed and I went in there with a very negative view on how that was going to go but I
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keep telling people Bruno Mar still has to me one of the top four Super Bowl performances ever that was or the other
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one yeah with with without I don't whenever he hits the stage it's a show well he should perform at the Super Bowl
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every year yeah like he it's a show he different he's special he's different that [ __ ] skin
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is different everything is just different about about him I really enjoyed him uh
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I don't know what type of Prince Tribute is a Prince Tribute without purple rain but I won't be that
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guy it should just be left alone I don't think anyone should even touch it for a
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tribute beon Beyonce played letter show uh when I went to uh Marsh
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Ambrose's uh flow show I think I think she played it too or sung over it we know that purple rain is Princess that's
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the one that's the Masterpiece that that is the one so outside of that I don't want to nitpick outside of me not
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hearing that loved Bruno Mars I'm not sure if Prince loved it because Prince hated everyone yeah he he a love it and
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and he hated no but I think if there were someone he would love no Prince didn't hate every it's Bruno Prince was
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just you have to be a real artist Prince wasn't with the studio Studio artist
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[ __ ] yeah that's why I think he may have appreciated Bruno somebody like Bruno Prince appre I'm sure Prince was a fan
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of Bruno is homegrown Talent 100 I still see Prince sitting there rolling his eyes finding something wrong with it
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though yeah because Prince is that great but that's what made him Prince that's I tweeted it Prince hated Michael Jackson man what you want me to say because I I
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don't think he hated Mike I just think that he was tired of people always comparing them putting them in the same
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like and he was he was just like and in Prince M he was a real like artist no
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Prince hated Mike for a while I I went I went on YouTube and and looked at every
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single I looked at at least 40 minutes of Prince interviews because I was crying watching the [ __ ] Bruno do the
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Prince Tribute but did you ever hear why that's how that started I'm I'm I'm pretty sure you know with the whole bad
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video The Bad video yeah and they want they wanted uh Prince to play the other dude now time out stop right there stop
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right there yeah let's look at it like to like like let's put in its proper
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perspective Michael Jackson is the greatest entertainer of all time facts now today
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today right David blae is a second but oh my God shut up but who kind of looks
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like Prince to me a little bit but go ahead but Prince played every instrument
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taught himself how to play every instrument [ __ ] I was me and Sim was watching Purple Rain right and I was
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just making jokes throughout the whole [ __ ] look he was a ventriloquist he know threw his voice
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throw his voice he beat everybody in basketball prin greatest n ever what I'm saying is I could see how somebody who taught
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himself how to play every single instrument would look at Michael Jackson like you [ __ ] peon peon yeah that's
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what I'm saying comparing the two Michael you know didn't even write all his own music you heard the prince story about we are the world and we are the
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world is all of the greatest artists in the world and Prince like [ __ ] Y'all right so I mean he could have probably shaded Bruno too yeah I mean he would
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cuz the sequence outfit I mean you know he ain't really body it like that's all I'm saying right there he'
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found something to be mad for to body it like Prince so Purple Rain wasn't done and I'm okay with that because who can
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do Purple Rain like Prince nobody can do purple R that's a song I think artists stay away from they will not dare try to
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perform that record even though time out I agree with you nobody should touch that record mhm if somebody were to do
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it today just vocally give me the closest thing you could hear what would be who would you
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like to see give it a shot I heard some people say Miguel that's what popped in my head but I don't even know if I want
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to throw that out there I would love to hear Ro James do it Mel Ro James is one
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of those voices yeah I would love to hear his voice would love to now I I want to
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leave that alone I don't want anyone to so let's leave it alone that's fine Prince has one of those tribute songs that is Untouchable classic probably one
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of the greatest songs ever made George Michael now not so much but I love
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George Michael I'm a huge Wham George Michael guy yeah it hits who picked that
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song that's another one who pick who who is picking the music the
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Academy I get what you saying like of all of all the records I'm sure the artist they pick has has an oput they
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got to have some inut oh my God this [ __ ] the camera uh well and then Adele had to start over no less in
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the middle of it wait wait wait hold up let's get to that he said that
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that's kind of my point the the academy yeah what a and she [ __ ] up the bad
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George Michael song that wasn't even a good song and when she's singing it I'm
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saying I'm saying the S the whole time say she is ruining this I would said that at least eight times before I
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tweeted it and then as soon as I tweeted she said you know what stop this stop my time stop my time stop my time no we're
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going to do it better than that now [ __ ] uh Father Figure why would you not do
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Father Figure Careless Whispers I could give you at least four songs that should have been done before that one for
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George Michael but whatever Adele could have picked it she was the one singing it so whatever she felt comfortable with
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obviously she wasn't comfortable enough but I would think that the artist has some play in what they're going to select because they have to sing it
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speaking of Adele I get
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it I think you're about to say what amazing talent on this as well she had
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the better record but Beyonce the way everything around that album makes it
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out 25 was ass makes it out that album was terrible that [ __ ] came and went and I'm I'm putting it to a Dell standard it
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was the the song Hello should have won record of the year I agree with I'm not that was that was a huge record I if I
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brought 10 people in here that were Adele fans and I asked them to name two other records on 25 I guarantee you they
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couldn't that album came in went in a [ __ ] day yeah so so record of the Year sure I agree great with that album
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of the year no matters none Adele cut her Grammy in half and gave the other
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half to Beyonce which makes me think how sturdy those things really are Adele can snap it she broke it just be strong
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broke it in half gave the other half to Beyonce yeah I'm not mad at that we commend her for that right absolutely
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cuz the Grammys I feel like they try to make it a thing like they do [ __ ] to make things things M and I said that on
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this podcast a couple weeks ago and sure enough 10 minutes into the show they gave me a quick JLo and Rihanna flashed
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to each other I said all right they starting they early they early Rihanna seemed mad I'd have been mad too don't
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dominate me eight times and don't give me [ __ ] suck my dick she with a great album by the way yeah a phenomenal album
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yeah I would have been mad too yeah yeah I would have absolutely so when Rihanna
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come to the uh red carpet late after all y'all is inside already I was home cheering fist up yeah [ __ ] y'all I love
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when artists that are powerful recognize they are powerful and utilize said
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power I love it don't tell me Drake is boycotting the Grammys don't tell me
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that because that leads you to believe he's using his power properly no [ __ ]
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just don't win and they don't go which I'm not mad at that you I wouldn't I I wouldn't go right so I'm not at that but
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that is very different from wielding your leverage and your power the way
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that uh but anyway I think that the Grammys are trying to make this Beyonce not winning a thing like three years or
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however many times it's happened Kanye ran up there was the greatest press ever Taylor Swift like like it was great man
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I don't care I think it's a thing I think it's a thing now cranes in the sky got one I didn't see what category it was for but I was just happy best R&B
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song of the [ __ ] year yeah all right good as it should have um and Salange instagrammed a small tidbit small fact
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afterward uh she said only two artists have two black artists have won album of
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the year over the past 20 years but over 200 black artists have performed it's an interesting
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point now Salange does strike me as one of those everything is a racial issue she does strike me as one of those
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she's shea butter Twitter yeah yeah yeah she's 100% Shea Butter Twitter but she right here yeah she's right here
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100% she's right here she is um did you uh were you privy to Frank Ocean's letter to the
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Grammys would you read it I am I am privy because I'm well informed m m are
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you privy I'm not privy well we don't need to read the letter the letter is in
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response to something let me think cuz I don't know if you caught the story ahe ahead did
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you I caught when they post oh no no no I caught it at the response
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the organizer or some [ __ ] of the Grammys of course I'm not factchecking and my memory is
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bad but he was saying that Frank Ocean's performance was it yeah last
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time at the Grammys the gay record was a bit was a bit uh you know it was the
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visuals were great Frank sounded like [ __ ] which he admitted I think the next day it wasn't like this was some [ __ ] that festered he admitted next day like
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yo that was really ass I apologize visuals looked amazing but he sound that's great but why is home why is not
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Frank but why is the gramy guy speaking about last year's [ __ ] this was anyway
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this was in 2013 this wasn't last year or whenever the [ __ ] why why is he speaking about it oh okay if I have to
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just make up an ansers because Frank has not submitted his album right the same way McLemore has not submitted his album
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to be uh to be eligible for contention by by your board mmore
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I'm not quite sure why he did that but I support it even if he didn't want the backlash that he received when he won I
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still support it I still support it I don't know too much about M lore but from what I've seen he seems to be in
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the favor of music and not politics so I can see mmore is a great great great guy so let's read Frank who you can't say
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things about gay people you read it man that's too long for me to read you can't say things about gay people and not
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think you're not getting sass back okay Ken and Dave in parentheses as much as I
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hate to make you guys famous or even respond to you directly we starting with sass that's Joe not Frank we all die one
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day and you're old so [ __ ] it well God Dam yeah yeah my 2013 performance at the
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Grammys was absolute [ __ ] technical difficulties blah blah thanks for the reminder very much appreciated [ __ ] that
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performance though you think that's why I kept my work out the Grammy process this year don't you think I would have
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wanted to play the show to redeem myself if if I felt that way uh where am I if I
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felt that way in reality I actually wanted to participate in honoring Prince on the show thank God that didn't happen
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Frank are you kidding me Frank shut the [ __ ] up uh wait honoring Prince on the show but then I figured my best tribute
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to that man's Legacy would be to continue to be myself out here and to be successful thank God I agree with that
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winning a TV award doesn't Christen me successful it took me some time to learn that I brought all my masters back last
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year in the prime of my career that success he talking that [ __ ] right now blonde sold a million plus without a
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label that's successful I am young black gifted and independent that's my tribute
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I've actually been tuning into CBS around this time of year for a while to see who gets the top honor and you know
- 44:40
what's really not great TV guys 1989 getting album of the year over to pimpa
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Butterfly hands down one of the most faulty TV moments I've seen believe the
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people believe the ones who'd rather watch select performances from your program on YouTu YouTube the day after
- 44:57
because your Show puts them to sleep use the old gramophone to actually listen bro I'm the uh let me see I'm one of the
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best alive and if you're up for a discussion about the cultural bias and general nerve damage to show you produce
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suffers from then I'm all for it have a good night that was well well that was Frank
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Ocean yeah I like that to the Grammy board I love it all first verse by the
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way I love it but the thing you have to understand with the Grammys is is it going to be a popularity contest on who
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streamed the most or is it going to be who created the best music it is a popularity contest and you throw in the
- 45:35
occasional backpack album to act like you know about music yeah and and they
- 45:41
want viewers and if they look at it and say 50 million people listen to 1989 I
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think those people want to see their album win well listen I was watching complex live shout out to nesca and she
- 45:53
was interviewing someone from the Grammy board uh and he was saying the same sentiment that I've echoed for years we
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can't trust the process I'm on the Grammy board and they allow me to vote for country music and you know nothing
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about it not enough to vote yeah I should not be voting so you just Google and say all right who's the no I'm not
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no I'm not or or which one I recognize I'm saying this is what some members on the board are doing they just all right
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I don't even think they're doing that pick it all right this the one I heard of they give you four names I know I picked the categories out
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like but then you have to check every box so you just [ __ ] check a box you just check a random box that's what I do
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or you check something that pops out as familiar I heard of this before yeah I mean I don't maybe they do this or maybe
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they don't breaking it up into sections having people from the Grammy board be from that culture would make way more
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[ __ ] sense everyone that's involved in country media country blogs this and
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that country even labels because label people are on it I hate to burst job bubble but people are checking off whatever artist they represent
- 46:56
um doing it that way would make much more sense to me agreed I don't know if I want to give complex the uh Power to
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pick uh [ __ ] little yachty as the greatest rapper of all time won't let your [ __ ] on complex sorry sorry Rory
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won't let your [ __ ] on comp complex we rocking out here they're
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uh friends of the show they're your friend they're friends of the show my you have friends at
- 47:21
complex I know I do and I tell them every day they're [ __ ] [ __ ] um
- 47:27
when Eminem performed at wimbley stadium in London which seats
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100,000 and slaughterhouse was there um other rappers were there and I
- 47:39
hated that because I'm antisocial but Chance was there did you guys perform yeah that's pretty cool um chance
- 47:46
performed chance was there and that was the first time I got to meet him and really be around him and Peep his
- 47:52
energy and that was the first time I even checked for his music then and I
- 47:59
said all right he's good he's weird the music is a little weird but it's good
- 48:05
was this around Acid Rap time probably yes yes yes yes yes so [ __ ] that I like
- 48:10
thatum but we could tell he was going somewhere well I could I could tell he was going somewhere he was very positive
- 48:17
he just had the greatest energy ever I would have loved to spend more time talking and talking to him and observing
- 48:24
him but he was with Tyler the Creator who I hate so that just didn't happen
- 48:29
but why do you hate Tyler why why would I not hate oh I hate
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Tyler Creator everything you just named that you love that Frank Ocean represented is the same thing they represent my I'm not how all right tell
- 48:42
me maybe I'm uninformed tell me they're completely independent everything that he just named that they just stupid
- 48:48
they're independent and stupid how are they stupid those kids are worth so much Goddamn money that they made on their
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own out I never I never thought I would be the one defending our future you are
- 48:58
exactly the person to defend our future no I'm really not no you are is he tell him you're a hipster that's y I know
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think you're not a jokes aside I don't listen to odd saying I never but you look like the guy that defends our
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future I'm 26 their fan base is
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21 I know you guys are wrong here Rory gets so mad when we think he's
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a HP not wrong me hipster today it's cool to be a hipster but I think Jim Jones started that hipster ship that's a
- 49:29
different point here or there though but go ahead he popped day and night off all of us love that song cuz Jim's verse was on it he popped that hips [ __ ] off but
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continue I don't think that Jim should have and jeel should have started wallet chains I don't like that I never agreed
- 49:43
with wallet chain when Maul bought a wallet chain home Li now lie now lie never had a
- 49:50
wallet change Rory with the Simon belt [ __ ] I know they're successful I know they're
- 49:57
Tyler has said a lot of stupid [ __ ] out his mouth of course of course of course of course he also has behaved in a way
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in which someone of my mind would say okay I need to stay away from him cuz
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he's the kid that I that would just annoy the [ __ ] out of me so of wait yeah
- 50:17
of course not not musically not his career I'm just I'm only talking about personally a lot of it is Antics he's
- 50:22
also a kid I don't have time for kid [ __ ] Antics so when I'm at wimbley
- 50:28
Stadium stop Rory when I'm at wimbley stadium and I will cuz the concession
- 50:34
stand is mad far so now me and Joel or crook go to the concession stand of course I want to smoke so of course I Venture away and now I walk into a tiny
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little elevator with [ __ ] Tyler the Creator and Chance the Rapper and me stuck in the elevator that [ __ ] was
- 50:47
miserable three guys walking into a bar yeah oh [ __ ] well no I can see him
- 50:53
being annoying there I was saying to the point that how could you hey I took it deeper than you just being annoyed in
- 50:58
the elevator I'm saying everything that you just mentioned that you love about Frank Ocean in that statement to the
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Grammy guy is exactly what Tyler and odd future represent that's why while their music how do how do you School me I'm
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uninformed there when you say that I have never known them to stand up and
- 51:17
fight the good [ __ ] Fight Against the Machine I knew them to go get hot and then [ __ ] go sign to a machine what
- 51:24
machine are they sign To None now they they passed on every label that was offering them all this amounts of money
- 51:31
they do their merch by themselves they do that huge [ __ ] festival carnival [ __ ] all by themselves that has [ __ ]
- 51:37
from Erica abadu to [ __ ] MC we don't know who the [ __ ] your name is everything about them represents doing
- 51:42
things on your own and making music that you like and not catering to them okay so I'm I'm taking your word for that so
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with that said where in that did they stand up and fight the good fight Rory I don't just
- 51:54
you're changing the argument now no no let me talk let me talk let me talk I don't just Champion the people that stay
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independent Frank throughout his entire career has fought against the machine
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his whole career he's also odd future but no he left them too he left them too
- 52:13
so I don't see where they did that and and I don't I don't pretend to be so well versed in my Odd Future so
- 52:19
listeners listeners correct me but all right they've been independent their old career but when did they stand up
- 52:25
against anything and fight against anything telling every label [ __ ] you
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we're signing we're signing ourselves and doing this our own before it was it was not the easiest thing to do at that
- 52:36
time either I know Indie is the wave now but it wasn't always that way they were definitely in the beginning of Indie of
- 52:41
that magnitude how much they were selling all right all right so we just
- 52:46
have a difference of no that's just turning something down that's not fighting against yeah telling labels go [ __ ] you publicly telling labels he was
- 52:53
tweeting label exec saying go [ __ ] your s I'm never signing with you I don't see I I don't see that as fighting a good
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fight I see that as someone who is firm in their decision and what they want to do I don't see that as fighting the
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fight I'm saying the same thing that Frank is saying that I'm independent I own all my own [ __ ] that's successful to
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me that's the point I was getting at when I said the same thing Frank said is what odd future does and back to that
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elevator chance and that elevator does the same thing because he refuses to sell his music to make other people money and I don't know if it's
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completely true but seem to change the Grammy board in allowing free music to be represented in the Grammys let me ask
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you a question that's fighting against that's doing action just because you don't have a picket sign doesn't mean you're not changing things it's all
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action go on non-action action of of not selling your
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music that's an action I don't care semantics is Chance independent yes no I
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say no chance got Apple got Apple deal take how does he have an Apple deal talk on this mic what's his Apple deal this
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is a good conversation this one y'all need to have that all right I'm not
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taking you got these deals now these exclusive put your music on my platform
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his was not exclusive uh color book was an apple music exclusive when it first dropped for an hour maybe not true it
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was for most I believe it was two weeks or something like that it was more than two weeks you could not buy that album
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well you can't buy it it's not for sale so it's not like you can go all right iTunes or okay uh to that point Joe when
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you exclusively put the making a murderer uh Dis Track to just complex
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are you now signed to complex no that's a real bad argument how is that a bad argument you're saying
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just because it was exclusive for a couple days on Apple music he signed to Apple music no he did a deal all right so this is I said an apple music deal
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that's still being independent I'm saying you have a deal apple is the way people get music of
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course you're going to give your music to Apple you have a deal with Apple exclusively with apple yeah exclusive
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deal with Apple biggest company in the world world to fund to fund you for for your music there was of course there's
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nothing there's nothing any of us can prove here we can speculate there's nothing we can prove that chance uh
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album was funded by Apple no no no no listen Rory I'm not speculating this is what I know I know
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that the music business and people failing and people becoming successful
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and people becoming stars and however their careers are carved out normally comes down to one thing and one thing
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only cuz you're right we'll never be able to prove any of it but when you ask this one question of any artist you'll
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be able to figure it out so this is what it is how many people lose if they
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lose that is the question if chance because no I want to take this off of
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chance and say period because that's what it comes down to I am an independent contractor Joe Buton if I
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lose I lose me nobody else not Empire not Apple not
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Spotify nobody I say that to say okay if chance
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lost Apple lost did we think Apple was going to
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lose so now let me ask you again is
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Chance independent yes okay and also from billboard the Apple music streaming
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exclusive wasn't actually exclusive at all a coloring book appeared on that piff shortly at midnight it was put on
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and taken off they actually had I saw it when it went on that PFF everybody where it was available for streaming as a free
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download yeah and then right after that they went and said no this is only supposed to be on Apple music and it was snatched down it was put back up later
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on okay if chance signed to doing that is Apple doing that who's doing it chance is doing it because he owns his
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own music I'm just telling you that that part right there about the album being available on that piff you could put I
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could go and put [ __ ] Adele on that PI right now it's gonna get snatched down at the same I'm telling you that
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Apple makes more off chance then they do off Joe Button oh well I mean he he could have a deal there that's a deal
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with a distrib like putting your album out is not making you not independent if you have a deal with Apple you're not an
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independent yes you are Apple did not fund any they may have have taken points off the top of do you know that apple is
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not only the number one distributor but now when you sign a deal there they have
- 57:33
their own built-in infrastructure I'm well aware if you know that then you'll stop saying this dumb [ __ ] that you're saying that's why
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I don't understand why people keep telling me the success of Drake Well I agree with you the Drake part because there's an actual real [ __ ] deal that
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he signed with apple that you could look up wait but the same app like right now Chance's pin tweet right now is coloring
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book available now at chance rps.com wouldn't it be a [ __ ] Apple [ __ ] if he had some deal over there no the
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exclus if the exclusivity deal is done that's streaming with everyone though like AC like CH was the first one and
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only one that ever does that no we're just telling you everyone doesn't have that everyone don't have that exclusive with a lot of artists do a lot of artist
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Travis Scott DJ K artists who have signed tell me the ones who have that deal then tell me another one I I don't
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know any of them I don't I don't know who have who have and who does not have Drake future Travis Scott cck just name
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four right there those are artists that have exclusivity deals through and I'm saying that I think cuz this is nothing
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we can prove I do not believe that Apple fronted chance to make that album just to put out on their thing I think he
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made that independently put all that studio time was paid for him every feature every [ __ ] beat and then he
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said hey Apple I have this amazing album how about we make a
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deal you think Apple put that you really thinkle put together this is where Rory snaps right into [ __ ] 26y old
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find me coloring books uh cuz you know more than me pull up coloring book and just read me
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the uh features cuz it was a lot of
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features uh a bunch of people he's already worked with uh Kanye W that's not true that is not true all of the
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people on that album are not people that he had already worked with yes he worked with Kanye West has he worked with little Wayne yes he was on Wayne's
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mixtape well before this two chains think it's hard for chance to get a two chains feature I don't think Apple CH
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whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa see I want us to stop saying what we think both of us all of us we don't know we don't know
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it's all right for people to not know we don't know and it is hard to get a two chains verse I tried you're not Chance
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the Rapper it's still hard for an independent artist said chance it's hard for any independent
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artist to get a two chains verse you're not just bumping into two Janes and
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getting a verse and if you have his phone number you're not just casually texting him and getting a verse and
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having that conversation I'm great with two chains after I dissed him over that Jus [ __ ] uh in 2010 me and him are great
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I'm not going to compare Chance's amazing Buzz at this moment to you and two chains relationship no you're
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missing my point you're Miss you're you're missing what I'm saying that's not what I'm saying all right I'm not
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arguing Buzz I'm saying that is hard so that's a a feat that that's there don't
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mock don't just mock it away I'm not mocking you no no I'm saying don't just toss that away I'm sure that's not
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difficult that is difficult so go ahead I don't jeremi worked with him a million times dram worked with him when wait
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wait wait wait wait they have a project together chance and jeremi have a whole Chas album together
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recently come on jeremi was on Rory Rory wait the Christmas album is this year
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right recently right so what the [ __ ] is he talking about because he was on surf and acid WAP
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pull it
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up I just want you know everybody to love each other because I I defer to Rory in these
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incidents because he knows more than me when it comes to these people but that
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don't mean I'mma let him say [ __ ] [ __ ] it ain't easy to get a [ __ ] uh it ain't easy to get any of these people in
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the studio 201 2015 his project before surf what you did with that Donnie kid
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Jeremiah is on wannab be cool when I saw let me say what I'm
- 1:01:31
thinking when I saw the coloring book album cuz this wasn't even this was like a this wasn't even a uh talk point but
- 1:01:37
when I saw that album and I saw the features they weren't lightweight
- 1:01:44
features none of them he's established enough Buzz to not then no no the buzz
- 1:01:51
was going into that though even he had Buzz bro he had Buzz coming off a Kanye's [ __ ] yes nobody is questioning
- 1:01:58
his buzz I'm saying that for an independent artist to maneuver the way
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that chance has maneuvered the P the percent the percenti is low very that's it Rory
- 1:02:13
could be 100% right in everything he's saying like I said I don't know enough about these people the next one Justin Bieber he was on Justin single in 2013
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like he's been moving with all these people for quite sometime there wasn't a feature on here that I went holy [ __ ]
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chance is working with him it's a bunch of people he's worked with I know and I heard it and said he has all of these
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big features now currently on current
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music and you think an apple exec emailed to get those features no I don't
- 1:02:45
think that independent chance put the project together independently well we'll agree to disagree and I don't know
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but I don't care because it's a mixtape and it one [ __ ] album I no one's
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happier than me about it I don't want people to misconstrue my argument because I just like to argue no one is
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happier about this chance [ __ ] than me makes me think Moon music should have
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got a [Music] [ __ ] so now so now listen now that's
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where I was [ __ ] going I went to London and I went to
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London and I'm not going to spend a lot of time on this because this is conspiracy theorist
- 1:03:29
Joe and this is a drake thought I went to London and they put me on to a bunch
- 1:03:35
of London hip-hop guys we all knew of skto already uh
- 1:03:41
stormy wretch they were just filling me in on all of the London hip-hop scene
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MH and in that guess what's happening you guessed
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it Drake is on the hottest London upand cominging
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songs oh yeah no no no no see I don't is
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it me why y'all why y'all just did that I'm not because I'm not surprised time out all let me give you some more
- 1:04:10
context okay when I say he's on the hottest London song I don't mean he's on
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the whatever the biggest song in London is that's not what I mean the same thing that we talked about the other week of
- 1:04:22
him and that Florida kid MH like he's on a 18-year-old kid named
- 1:04:28
Dave's single Dave just started rapping 6 months ago MH he's on that song the
- 1:04:34
year before it was another artist new of that ilk dumb listeners this is not really a
- 1:04:42
drake conversation I only noticed it because it was incredible to me that we
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never heard any of that [ __ ] over here mhm and then of course my brain got to
- 1:04:53
wondering cuz it's a amazing idea it's great it's just smart just smart to do more people should do it if you have
- 1:04:58
that star power then I thought well how many other places is he doing this in well not him but apple or whoever he
- 1:05:05
playing seeds man MH I know which then got me to thinking just my brain and I
- 1:05:12
can my brain is a nuts wild off place so I'll admit but I'm just going to give youall my train of thought that then got
- 1:05:18
me to thinking how many other places is this happening in that then got me to thinking how long Drake's career will go
- 1:05:25
from starting now and when I answered that I then thought maybe apple is using
- 1:05:32
Drake to segue to what's next the next sound yeah absolutely yeah
- 1:05:40
and I I hard bring I I also think with apple and streaming it makes finding new
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music easier than it ever has before especially from other countries I mean of course the internet made it super
- 1:05:52
easy but this streaming [ __ ] CH my point I think this is tactical analytics here
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I know it is easy in streaming you're right no but with but with that hey I love Drake I'm gonna type in Drake on my
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Apple music here's some things I might like Drake on this [ __ ] English [ __ ]
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not only that you you got to remember those who have apple music have access to beats1 radio beat one radio bounces
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from New York to LA to London [ __ ] on there too I've caught some [ __ ] like damn who the [ __ ] is this
- 1:06:22
you it you have your check in the phone like I need to check this out the more Drake waits to put more life out the
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more pressure he puts on himself we have our OVO representative mul here Maul do
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you disagree with that do I disagree with the longer Drake takes to put out more life the more
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pressure he puts on himself no or do you think that he's at a point where it don't even matter what he do no it's no
- 1:06:46
Drake there no pressure on Drake right now can there ever be oh I mean yeah I'm
- 1:06:52
sure one day but not right now no give me your take on the whole bars of course there's pressure wait up we got an
- 1:06:58
argument there we go that's what I'm looking for on Drake to put out a successful album I think any per yeah any person that's at the top of their
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game it has pressure to continue doing that more pressure than someone that has is there something to drink in the
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fridge or out there somewhere I already checked cuz really before yeah pressure is the right word for Drake though I I
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think what it's a lot you know people are anticipating a lot of anticipation I would say there's a lot anticipation but
- 1:07:26
Drake Drake okay pressure take the numbers out the numbers are going to be there we know that the numbers no matter
- 1:07:31
what he does it could be the music is going to be there you look at the music has always
- 1:07:37
been there that's not true that's when put out whack music I'm not saying whack but if you look at all the reviews of
- 1:07:42
the last album I'm talking about magazine reviews everyone is saying uh it's a little step back it's not as hot
- 1:07:48
as everything else this not what we expecting from him this ain't really it and ice loves because it was the you
- 1:07:54
know what it was it may have been because it's it's not your typical Drake sounding album it was though I love
- 1:08:01
views it is a Drake album a Drake album but sound outside of outside of a a
- 1:08:08
controller one dance and maybe one other record it's the same album he puts out a bunch of singing records some rapping
- 1:08:14
records it's the same he didn't Venture off too far and everybody is saying like uh you know what I still think even if
- 1:08:21
he put out [ __ ] Thriller there's more pressure now that you're this big you have to deliver you have to might be
- 1:08:26
right I know one thing if he put out an album and start telling me what him and his [ __ ] is doing at Cheesecake it's
- 1:08:31
going to be another problem for [Music] me you can't talk about you can't talk
- 1:08:36
about it no more I can talk about it if he on more life start telling me about what him and his [ __ ] is doing at Cheesecake Factory I'm I am going to
- 1:08:42
talk people want to hear about it I was arguing with [ __ ] at Cheesecake way before Drake but that's you also defend our future people want to hear that
- 1:08:49
though it makes sense mean cuz cuz the reality is
- 1:08:55
this this is the reality the reality is [ __ ] go to Cheesecake word and argue arue we argue
- 1:09:01
you know thank you for that BR that's I mean it's going to connect to somebody is what I'm saying argued in chees you
- 1:09:07
have not but I'm just saying people out there a lot of people can relate to that I mean okay whatever but it's just you
- 1:09:15
know what's funny about you saying that when tell me when the last time you had an argument with a [Music]
- 1:09:21
girl and then tell me the last time you went to cheesecake with a girl that's my point you stop [ __ ]
- 1:09:28
but that's me though that's me so you don't for every me there's 20 [ __ ] that have done that n no it's not 20
- 1:09:34
forever you m I'm just saying it's is it's it's [ __ ] out there that can relate all right I don't want to spend too much time which is why he's hopping
- 1:09:41
on the new wave the new sound before it becomes cool he could be like I brought that in he did it with he did it with
- 1:09:47
Jamaica now he's moving on to yeah he gave us the you know what I mean like he he just trying to show that he's an
- 1:09:53
artist and he can any genre of music he's just connecting back to his roots which is is I don't care enough about
- 1:09:59
Drake listen he's a a great artist that we def press the pressure it pressure on
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for more life I don't care what it is pressure on pressure's on there's pressure for Beyonce there's pressure for Rihanna anyone of that caliber those
- 1:10:11
type of artists not pressure but they work well under that pressure but see it's not
- 1:10:17
pressure like that well that's why that's why there stars that's debatable it's proven to every artist we just Nam
- 1:10:23
that's why there're star Beyonce has been in a position now where she has to keep delivering and she has kept delivering Rihanna who else you
- 1:10:31
Drake I mean this yeah but the the difference is they not the ones that's
- 1:10:36
coming off of a a last album that got a bunch of subpar reviews it puts more
- 1:10:42
pressure on you than normal okay so if his last album got subpar reviews and he has done what he's done with that album
- 1:10:48
we would expect that fires coming that's it it puts more pressure on him than normal that's all I'm saying he has more
- 1:10:55
I've been expecting that for Drake but I've been expecting that from Drake for years now and he has not ever had me
- 1:11:00
feeling like he's had a wack year how do we feel listen listen how do we feel about the whole
- 1:11:08
Jabs they were good were those Drake Jabs I don't know they were they were
- 1:11:14
definitely wait wait wait wait just so I understand what we talking about yall talking about the H record that just
- 1:11:20
came out the HOV and the HOV and Beyonce the barbecue do your dishes record they I like that song by way that song is
- 1:11:25
hard [ __ ] anyone who says otherwise to for it right now for me that's all I like it a lot so y'all think that I
- 1:11:32
don't know because y'all thought that y'all thought that uh Remy was throwing shots at Nikki and I said she wasn't
- 1:11:38
y'all disagree with me and she Remy came out and said yo come
- 1:11:43
on I'm just saying that she said when she had the conversation with with nck she was like yo this exactly what we
- 1:11:49
talked about hold on I'm just telling you what she said out of her mouth we can't speculate anything yes we can she
- 1:11:55
said it out of her mouth we can only expect that that's the truth she said it out of her mouth about her all right
- 1:12:01
back about herself she spoke about herself back to Drake and Jay yeah give me Drake and whole beef you got bar I
- 1:12:08
don't think there's a beef that's what I'm trying to tell you just like yall thought it was a Remy and Nicki beef and I said no fun that was just fun to talk
- 1:12:16
about more we didn't really think that they had a real J and Drake have been doing this for like three years now yeah
- 1:12:23
but think it's beef I don't think it's beef is you always but Jabs is part of
- 1:12:29
the sport so when he ask what you think jab I don't think that I don't think that was a jab though I don't think
- 1:12:35
anything Jay said in that verse was a jab did you hear the verse thoroughly don't think nothing is a jab unless I say it this [ __ ] is crazy he can defend
- 1:12:43
everybody else but me can you read can you read the bars before I read those Mall did you think Drake was dissing Jay
- 1:12:48
on 30 for 30 he do some shots direct without
- 1:12:54
saying his name yeah so how could all right I know you're not out here talking numbers right I know you're not talking
- 1:13:00
I know you're not out here talking Summers right who's who's the only artist that's been do summer
- 1:13:06
16 what other rapper has been saying those two direct things y'all [ __ ] man
- 1:13:11
y'all will dissect anything to a death don't take D that is what a podcast
- 1:13:17
about keep keep uh I know you ain't uh walking around talking down saying boss [ __ ]
- 1:13:23
when you really just a runner right Jay owns all his own [ __ ] and heed to about
- 1:13:28
10 different bosses hold hold on let me ask you a question was was was Jay talking to Drake on I got the
- 1:13:35
keys of course so why wouldn't he be talking to him on here yo cuz I think
- 1:13:40
Jay is it's like it's nothing else to keep talking about after yeah it is I'm going keep jabbing you just J not that
- 1:13:46
Jay's not no he's not going to keep jaing who's he talking about he going to he going to address it and then it's that [ __ ] who's talking it's a j I don't
- 1:13:54
know man I think that's I mean we anyone else talking about numbers and Summers
- 1:14:01
and talking like a boss back back to back I know this hurts Ma I know it's
- 1:14:07
painful but it's it's I know I know it's not painful I mean I just don't I don't I think that
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we we start to dissect too much after a while well and we think too deep into [ __ ] well I also I also think Jay and
- 1:14:21
Drake both know that so do this yeah but but but Jay's track record he's not going to he don't keep addressing some
- 1:14:28
[ __ ] though his track record shows that he'll address something if it's you know if you feel like it's Jay don't jab back
- 1:14:35
like come back no but not to the same [ __ ] though not to the same person and
- 1:14:40
no no no see and that's where I disagree with you Maul I I agree I don't think uh hve is beat to keep replying to the same
- 1:14:47
thing I think HOV keeps replying to new things from Drake yeah that's what I don't think he's replying to something
- 1:14:52
old but it's the it's been addressed though it's nothing new yeah I agree with that
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he he said this before he said that before yeah he said that before going to
- 1:15:03
numbers like y don't talk we know y'all know it's fiction R from rap fat whatever that whole [ __ ] he said that
- 1:15:08
before so it's like [ __ ] he Jay's not going to keep no I don't think so so
- 1:15:13
back to that particular record I don't think that so you think when when well Jay doesn't write [ __ ] down when Jay was mumbling in his head before he wrapped
- 1:15:20
this [ __ ] he said I know you're not talking numbers right I know you're not talking Summers right Drake was not in his brain at all I don't know you think
- 1:15:26
he just subconscious I don't know how much is in Jay he Jay got a lot of [ __ ] in his brain Drake has Cross of course
- 1:15:33
naturally has crossed his mind before and he they had some words but I don't think that last record is it vice versa
- 1:15:39
and Drake is right and all right let me ask you this do you think it's going to be some some J shots on more life which
- 1:15:45
is not finished I'm sure we'll dissect something into a I'm asking I'm asking you he's already said he'll be done with
- 1:15:51
it in about a week and a half he been saying that for Mad weeks I'mma give him benefit of the doubt especially after
- 1:15:57
this right I'm give benefit of the doubt all right you know what I gotta put some more [ __ ] on here well no I don't think Drake is going to move his schedule
- 1:16:03
because Jay said I know you're not talking num if records ain't done I could slip a bar or two in here now oh
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yeah yeah okay I'm I miss C some [ __ ] I'm working on I'm G slip some bars in here on this one now well when more Life
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come out Drake will have to find a new butt I mean a new tour buddy uh because
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future is now on his own with Tory links with t Lanes new Toronto and M GH and
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someone else who I don't
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care there too I think spot I don't the I got changes things young th that
- 1:16:39
is not true that is 100% true that sounds like great tour spot dates ASAP fer and and young th oh on the bottom it
- 1:16:46
says that yeah spot days the ones with the snake next to them and that's called the nobody safe tour and Future's been
- 1:16:52
saying nobody's safe I'm coming for all y'all that sounds like nobody is safe now now this was interesting to me
- 1:16:59
because I'm obsessive and I [ __ ] overthink everything who's Drake going to tour with that' be easy though for
- 1:17:05
him to figure out yeah I don't think that' be difficult yeah that's not tough this is an interesting tour this uh
- 1:17:10
future Migos Tory Kodak real quick was that Tory Lane in that fight video or not no I don't think so I hope not no no
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no no no no no no there is a video with Tory fighting but that video that's the funny the homie keep missing swinging
- 1:17:25
that's not Tory Lance wait so there is a video no no there is a [ __ ] you there is a video of Tori fighting I think uh some
- 1:17:33
some promoters or something from some some City I don't know well the way his jump shot form is I can see his no
- 1:17:39
that's not but that's not Tori I don't like the way every time something happens with Tory Lanes I become like the spokesperson for it like [ __ ]
- 1:17:46
start that's your guy yeah that yourit guy sh MC I don't like that I don't I like joking with Maul like that I don't
- 1:17:52
like when the jokes are about me but no but that's really is your god that's your cancer or whatever sensitive one is
- 1:17:58
I do like Tory Lance yeah you don't say so I don't care what y'all say whatever [ __ ] uh there was something else uh
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rest in peace alo alo yes rest in peace man that was yeah I used to I remember
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my M playing all that Al yeah rest in peace algo uh I know a lot
- 1:18:20
of you young people are clueless on Al BR but use your Googles uh what else did
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I want to get to who the [ __ ] is this Jersey City number that keeps calling my phone oh so uh all right so here we are
- 1:18:32
I know we've already spoke for Mad long but we didn't even get to the topic that I wanted to get to uh first of all wait
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before we go any further uh Blackheart Amman in stores right this second act in
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Virtual stores right this second I mean uh no no physical we have digital out go
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to iTunes go to your streaming services go wherever you go to listen to music uh if you love R&B amman's black heart
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Black Heart Project is out not distributed through Moon music e uh Moon Music Entertainment so [ __ ] him but
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support a real [ __ ] cuz it's great music on there no bias that [ __ ] is I have not stopped listening to it for two days it's [ __ ] phenomen no bias three
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of them [ __ ] is trash uh outside of that the other seven I'm rolling I'm rolling
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I'm rolling it's a good Valentine great well it's it's tough I don't know if I could just be like you know what's going to get you in the mood babe my homeboy
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yeah can't do it never see now now that's why [ __ ] you listen no way but
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that's why it's kind of dope for me at least that Amman is still relatively unknown because when you put it on I
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when I put it on I don't tell [ __ ] to see right he ain't going to shoot no videos how they going to know unless we
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tell him you think I'm giving that [ __ ] prompts n I'm just trying to get him some fans so later on we could Rock but
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uh the Black Heart Project is great it's amazing so shout out to Amman you did a phenomenal job even with living in La um
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so kudos to you uh second because people keep mention it mentioning it to me and
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we never mention it here and now y'all think that we hating when we are not run the jewels there we we've said run the
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jewels because they put a project out too so yeah run the Jews great yeah we never talk about it here so people think
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that we're hating I guess because i'm raging in royes Prime so maybe I don't want to Big up the other [ __ ] but I'm
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I love them they great so I don't care about that uh but what I will say is uh
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Lupe put a project out I'm sure you guys haven't heard it because the internet hasn't said it's cool to listen to Lupe
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oh darn it uh I haven't heard it yet either no I'm talking about the listeners not y'all oh okay uh no Rory I
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know you're one of the people that respect Lupe Maul has always not respected
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Lupe what I hope you no no no I remember a long time ago remember Mo I used to
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bring up random artist can you turn that into a gift please I like Lupe I've always liked Lupe I I just remember
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asking you and granted it might have been a loaded and unfair question but I remember saying Maul and this was like in 2012 or just a while ago when we was
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in Edgewater and I was like Maul beanie Lupe and you [ __ ] on Lupe comparison
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to beans yeah I'm I'm more beans than Lupe but I that don't mean I don't [ __ ] with Lupe I [ __ ] with
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Lupe l all who the better rapper was and he was [ __ ] on Lupe no I would I was
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I wasn't sh Tepper I wasn't [ __ ] on I'm just saying I me personally I think beans is a better rapper than Lupe me
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personally I'm that might not be the popular opinion I'm just saying but that's not I don't I know people don't
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[ __ ] with Lupe's SK uh skill set because it's so high it's a few people that have really really their skill sets are too
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high yeah like Lupe Los yeah Roy yeah
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it's not it's not it's not popular is different bring it down the where you can still Lup just be like Roy can make
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music and it's not his technicality is easily digestible like Lupe rhyming a
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bunch of syllables sometimes it's not as easy as it is to listen to Royce I say that's a talent that Royce has oh I I
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agree with that I think I think Royce has I me that in a really good way yeah I agree with you I think Roy my theory
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is that the artists that provide lower quality music have to really try hard to
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make high quality music and that's all we focus on but the artists that make high quality music have to really really
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focus and try to lower that quality so I agree with that when Roy is making himself
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digestible I credit that to him exerting energy into being just like
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you just said into being digestible that would probably behoove Lupe and King Los as well well the thing is we know we
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know Lupe can do it it was weird like with Food and Liquor in the cool he had that and then all of a sudden he just
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got really too good at rapping and it was like I can't really listen to [ __ ] no work well no that's when normally when people get a little off and weird
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normally I can pinpoint the label trouble oh his [ __ ] with Atlantic was all [ __ ] up yeah that's what I'm
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saying so yeah Lupe might have weirded himself out the game and you still can't [ __ ] with me in Street Fighter [ __ ] if
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you listening uh but let me get that out there yeah so he might have weirded himself out the game but I'm sure that Atlantic [ __ ] had a lot to do with that
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um but Lupe is taking pictures with Samurai swords and [ __ ] white robes he's uh black belt four times over I'm
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just going to stop talking about him right now Waka and Gucci uh there was disc records right I
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I didn't list I'm actually ice take this one away I'm sure ice knows everything about you know ice knows everything about kid hop yeah who the [ __ ] is kid
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hop kid hop is the lower form of hip-hop all the people you listen to Walker and Gucci don't apply to that I wasn't
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talking about them oh all right um yeah Walker did a radio interview and he was just saying how basically that TI of
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Gucci claiming uh zone 6 East Atlanta Santa all of that when you ain't been
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there you can't come back well he was in jail even after but then he made he pulled the point he said you know how
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many videos has he shot there since he came home he don't he can't come back to the hood basically is what he's saying
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so I'm not shooting a video in the hood when my girl is beautiful and my house is beautiful I shoot it there I agree
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[ __ ] am I going to the project for I said that on Twitter I completely agree the the response to that was well stop
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claiming that hood then stop claiming that's where I'm from I'm agreeing with you we on the same page here it's it's
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the the lower um like more immature way of thinking is you just got to be in the
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hood to be a considered gangster Hood rapper you have to be in a hood you can't leave if you're not helping your
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neighborhood and claiming it yeah you have some right to say that if you're not and this lifting it not just shooting a video in the projects with
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people that you used to [ __ ] with and we don't know what Gucci's doing in the hood as far as saying we we don't know but W's point was you're not doing
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anything for the hood in the hood stop claiming the hood you ain't been here in a long time you can't come back here
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that's it Waka goes in and out of like streams of Consciousness where he's like super articulate and to the point and
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then other times I'm like who the [ __ ] is speaking right now I don't know what Waka has going on um not sure why he's
- 1:25:19
really making the rounds I was going to talk about this radio story cuz I was just segueing and there's a walk a story
- 1:25:26
with a radio DJ that keeps calling him [ __ ] yeah I heard the clip and and my mom want really wanted
- 1:25:33
me to touch on it and the more I read I don't I don't know if I even want to do that I don't even know if I want to bring light bring light to it yeah to to
- 1:25:40
this type of well the guy the GU to not bring we shouldn't bring light to it cu the guy is super ignorant he's had a pattern of this this is not like this is
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his thing this yeah there's really no reason so this is like the the Facebook chick that everybody was biged up and
- 1:25:51
made a star and all [ __ ] I'm I'm a huge advocator on being accountable for the things you say and I think he picked the
- 1:25:58
wrong person to say that about so I think this will probably stop because I think Waka is about it oh I want to read
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more up on it i' I've never heard about it yeah I I wouldn't know what's going on whatever well um okay well that's the
- 1:26:12
news from the trap listen so so so real quick uh news from the trap is a new segment I might have to do that
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and this is not CNN or fake news and I'm not talking politics but preliminary impeachment papers have been filed on
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Trump mm I just want yall to know that that happened it's preliminary I know
- 1:26:30
nothing more just keeping you up to date and a breast that's trying to get him the [ __ ] out now on to something way
- 1:26:38
more important than all that we've discussed already I felt like Rory wanted to take me to homie court for
- 1:26:45
something that had nothing to do with me but because I wanted to be a lawyer in my former life I accepted said challenge
- 1:26:53
so I'm in my house minding my business Rory then starts hitting me asking me
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why all of my friends are [ __ ] India Love I then hit Rory back to tell
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him uh first of all I didn't know who it was like yo who's this I didn't have Roy's number
- 1:27:12
saved you call in my story. this morning and said Happy Valentine's Day let's not go hey no
- 1:27:20
we're going there right after this so so I said how the [ __ ] would I know why all
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these people are [ __ ] India I don't give a [ __ ] about India [ __ ] love but Ross is [ __ ] India Love so now the
- 1:27:32
question on Twitter always turns to why do the same 10 chicks continue to be
- 1:27:38
rotated among celebrities Rory thought that I had the answer to this well you're a rapper I of and a rapper
- 1:27:44
actually answered me oh really slimo responded and said because his first
- 1:27:50
response said because bad chicks like Ballers I said okay I hate your mic he
- 1:27:56
he responded and said pause I was debating that pause if I
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should even if I should even put it out there no no no I got you I got you that was a pause a moment in time pause a moment in
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time all right all right so yeah Slim Thug I put the question out there I said yo why do you rappers and athletes keep
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[ __ ] the same six chicks so Slim Thug responded to me and said just because
- 1:28:21
bad chicks like ball I then said okay so does that mean there's only I said does that mean there's only
- 1:28:28
six bad chicks out there he responded and said the industry is small we see the same people at the same parties so I
- 1:28:35
guess to answer your question is the industry is small that's why they're [ __ ] with the same I don't like that now cuz there's not really there used to
- 1:28:42
be like industry parties there's not really industry and mind you the people with this new uh blog digital age
- 1:28:49
there's not popping people at those events it's a lot of weirdo respon there never [ __ ] fellas listen
- 1:28:55
it's very simple I have the key just ask all right
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M the reason why the same chicks [ __ ] the same
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[ __ ] is because [ __ ] are groupies for
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groupies that's the error we in well we've said that for a while [ __ ] are groupies for
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groupies a niggaer don't want to [ __ ] a chick unless she has a name she's known she's been around but this is my only
- 1:29:23
thing see I don't I don't I don't I don't I'm not I don't mind men being groupies for the groupies but just have
- 1:29:31
utilize some discretion well I think that take the point the purpose away game was
- 1:29:36
fingering India Love in the park that's kind of lit by the way it is for game
- 1:29:42
not for the next guy who's cuddled up with India Love on Instagram God forbid
- 1:29:49
Park what the [ __ ] you kidding me but but you know what though that just goes to show that [ __ ] be like a [ __ ] you
- 1:29:57
see your man in a relationship and [ __ ] be having Lusty thoughts for your your chick on the low [ __ ] be having
- 1:30:04
Lusty thoughts for their man's chicks yo it's a that's a fact like your man
- 1:30:10
bring a chick around and you think she bad like [ __ ] had [ __ ] have done that and then we're going to make Tricky
- 1:30:16
Ricky t-shirts yeah yo m is is talking about the elephant in the room and
- 1:30:22
that's kind of I'm with it I mean I agree I I agree what I'm saying that's what that was going to be my response to
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Rory it's not that rappers are [ __ ] the same chicks MH because the term uh
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she [ __ ] the homie is from regular crew regular crew [ __ ] is [ __ ]
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Cruise well to to that to that point uh average men do not have the same amount
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of accessibility to women that rappers do so it makes y do now y'all do now yes y'all do y' have the same accessibility
- 1:30:50
I know you can make that point but for her to reply she's replying to a rapper of course before you oh yes so while men
- 1:30:58
say that like like yeah wait wait wait time out a certain tier stop see it's a certain tier of
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women that [ __ ] stop it I remember a while ago I think it was a year it was
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actually one year ago I called Maul because Maul knows everything about everybody and it was this chick I was
- 1:31:17
had saliva foaming out my mouth like a dog yeah I remember that I call M so fast I said Maul yeah I only want to
- 1:31:25
know who this person is know what Maul said to me oh that's such and such
- 1:31:31
coolest chick in the world leave it alone I said leave it but leave it leave
- 1:31:38
it alone what you mean leave it Al that's it Joe leave it alone leave it alone yeah so that immediately allowed
- 1:31:46
me to get into I Ain even want that [ __ ] anyway you know I I was able to give myself all the man [ __ ] and noer
- 1:31:53
look at her like but there are tears levels like said so granted some of those [ __ ] Bernice is
- 1:32:00
not hitting regular people back right no Bernice isn't hitting a lot of rappers back yeah that's a fact yeah I don't
- 1:32:06
know why like Bernice wasn't in BB but anyway well people grow okay but that mean was still in BB [ __ ] and I love
- 1:32:13
Beres but I hate them don't try to get [ __ ] snobby but I love Bernice but Bernice has always been that Bernice so I can't be mad at her she just ain't
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[ __ ] with regular [ __ ] but there's a low India Love will hit get you back
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India Love is hitting you back listen man and her sister is hitting you back listen I can give you a m will give you
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a list of you back well there is this group there is this group of angels on
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Instagram that there not disbanded there's not a group of angels it's one Angel not Taz Angels I'm saying
- 1:32:43
there's a group of women that are at that bad [ __ ] Instagram tier and their thing is I don't date rappers so they
- 1:32:49
love to respond to the regular guy cuz it listen man there's only one thing
- 1:32:55
there's only one thing standing in between you and [ __ ] who you deem to
- 1:33:00
be the baddest [ __ ] and that's just could get rap Drake No not Drake it's
- 1:33:06
just no me no it's just it's just timing and opportunity them four [ __ ] take a
- 1:33:13
lot off the plate yeah but but but but the thing is not really though because a lot of chicks that these [ __ ] smashed
- 1:33:21
other [ __ ] smash too that's not on their level oh yeah a lot of these chicks come from neighborhoods where
- 1:33:26
they was letting yeah the guy down the project hallway [ __ ] and still to this day after they
- 1:33:33
leave you know what you know what you know who addressed that perfectly Pusher had a verse on on his album where he
- 1:33:40
spoke about that and he said you know what I'm saying we in the hood we didn't notice your star like we didn't notice
- 1:33:45
you was like a dominant the rough and then you [ __ ] with a ball player or athlete and now you like
- 1:33:52
you we can't even say get a what's up from you basically like but we we didn't see that in you we didn't we took you
- 1:33:57
for granted cuz you was just a girl from the Block and then somebody else outside of the block saw you was like hold up
- 1:34:03
she's back she's a she's a star we're in different times right now it's funny you just said that because I was staring at
- 1:34:08
a Grammy picture of cardi and offset right and she dating him um and they
- 1:34:16
they were they both were icy they both looked amazing they both were glowing offset we expect that he's getting a lot
- 1:34:21
ofy and card's getting money too but together MH they were Illuminating and
- 1:34:26
the first thing I thought was you know I'm from New York so I have a different
- 1:34:32
View and image of cardi I love her but I've been in Aces I've been in lust
- 1:34:39
I've been in these places so the cardi I know and the cardi that the You Know M was one of the first people to to say
- 1:34:45
that years ago to that you know the the New York homegrown stock MH the the Out
- 1:34:50
of Towners think that they are like oh yeah all bernes yeah like every last one
- 1:34:58
of them mhm boy did Holly fall off quick we haded that out we'll talk
- 1:35:04
later uh another elephant in the room about rappers that that hasn't been brought up here a lot of rappers were
- 1:35:10
whack they didn't get [ __ ] so they only know the three [ __ ] that are should stop saying [ __ ] I'm sorry the
- 1:35:16
three women that are being passed around they were never live when they was growing up they never got women until
- 1:35:22
they got a that's what I said I tweeted that so which is why but that don't matter anymore which is why I I love I
- 1:35:29
loved when I found out that Drake and JLo were an item and I'mma tell you why
- 1:35:34
I loved it no I'm going tell you why I loved it because that's the disappoint listen that's the epitome of being
- 1:35:40
somewhere and you thinking that damn like she bad like I will never ever like
- 1:35:46
she's way out of my reach cuz there was a time when Drake was young I'm sure he saw JLo like we all did and was like God
- 1:35:53
damn and you would never think that you would have a shot at that
- 1:35:59
you know what I'm saying forward the Hollywood yeah like but that but to me
- 1:36:05
that's why I love that because that it's it shows you directly like dog you can hit that yeah but you also have to
- 1:36:11
become Drake to hit that and that but my thing is my thing is people are but my thing is you go from it never ever being
- 1:36:18
even a thought that it could happen to oh yeah that but but even then if you strip that if you strip that to where
- 1:36:24
Drake is JLo is a chick from Castle Hill projects you know yeah stri when you
- 1:36:30
strip that I mean we all come from somewhere you know what I'm saying like we but when you you would have to strip a lot of [ __ ] before you get back to
- 1:36:36
that with JLo oh yeah of course you understand what I'm saying and that's my point but it's like at one point not too
- 1:36:42
long ago Drake was in a position where he never thought he would probably ever you're right you do have to strip a lot
- 1:36:47
of [ __ ] so everyone however it's still there yeah
- 1:36:52
no it's there Underneath It All yeah it's it's there you ain't got there yeah but sometimes you don't get the strip
- 1:36:59
away them layers is what I'm saying you know all right but give me I don't care enough about all of that give when
- 1:37:04
people say that the same women are being tossed around they're who are the who are they talking
- 1:37:09
about India karuchi lra yeah it would be it would be
- 1:37:16
any chick that the consensus consensus feels is like the super fine chick or
- 1:37:22
the super sexy chick n it's this chick you see popping up on his Instagram on a date with him and then a couple months
- 1:37:29
she with him but it changes every like I would have to be a fool to think that sin has not dated a rapper before me I
- 1:37:35
would have to be an idiot think that Eric amena did have a music career at one point so but know what know what I
- 1:37:42
mean let's get that on the record what what I'm saying is like I don't know where [ __ ] is from that they just put
- 1:37:49
so much past people right why why why why today women are [ __ ]
- 1:37:57
quicker than the men more frequently yes they're initiating it's happening it's happening
- 1:38:02
out there all right I'm not defending the rappers in this [ __ ] well no and also the other point to that to close this is it's not no one is knocking them
- 1:38:09
for all smashing the same chicks that happens from the projects to the [ __ ] billionaires we're saying stop like
- 1:38:16
they're not trophies they're not your wife like every last one of them is wifing this [ __ ] and putting them on Instagram that's where everyone's like
- 1:38:22
all right this is nuts yeah if you hitting something you know everybody else is hitting it and you know it ain't
- 1:38:28
how do you know that everybody else is hit you seen it you're at all the in uh my parties
- 1:38:34
God n not my baby yeah n I'm not really seeing it n [ __ ] fight that all the time I'm find you a nice regular Woman
- 1:38:42
They okay and do what and then what what do we do once we she sucking regular
- 1:38:48
dick too she sucking reg [ __ ] dick I think that people I think that there's a large
- 1:38:55
underground this and this is conspiracy theorist Joe again I think there's a large underground market for kidnapped
- 1:39:01
kids the [ __ ] are you talking about you got to lay off the CSI my brother turn
- 1:39:07
that [ __ ] off what the [ __ ] are you talking about right now and where's the [ __ ] kids
- 1:39:15
at you sound like you want to come out and let us know some [ __ ] where the kids at man don't do this we could go about
- 1:39:21
this another way man leave that turn the CSI off every other day I'm reading a post
- 1:39:32
about a missing kid oh like on social media they retweet I get an Amber lert
- 1:39:37
every other week it's always in need some I don't think that many people are just losing kids no no no no but this is
- 1:39:44
the thing we don't we don't think that because there was another a time where we would hear about a missing kid in
- 1:39:50
Iowa here in New York that would be local news we get everything right here
- 1:39:55
in the palm of our hands now so it it was happening back in the days like kids that [ __ ] was always happening but now
- 1:40:00
we just know about it like more I think like like faster all right I'm just telling you what I think I could be
- 1:40:08
wrong I think that there is a market for human flesh yeah and I think
- 1:40:15
that kids are being abducted absolutely so that as stock and they are being traded that's what that's what I think
- 1:40:21
is happening no I cannot prove any of it no but it's been proven to point is it
- 1:40:26
like you said it's been happening it's just the internet makes the world so small that we hear about it
- 1:40:32
everywhere we would have never heard about it happening in Cali or I think all the black people are getting shot because there's a market for it it's a
- 1:40:39
hidden it's a hidden uh they keeping points point system well I mean America is about business and I'm ending this
- 1:40:45
podcast CU it's Valentine's Day and I'm not [ __ ] with y'all but about to say dog leave the CSI all right fine CSI I'm
- 1:40:54
trying to [ __ ] that I can change the subject all right all right I'm off it I'm off it I'm off it I'm off that was
- 1:40:59
the weirdest moment incast listen so let me say this though because I'm backtracking cuz Rory tried to throw me under the bus that was creepier than
- 1:41:06
when he said he was mad that the little kid stranger things didn't [ __ ] the other little girl the alien yeah yo hold
- 1:41:12
on speaking of wed because I watched it I want y'all to watch it and I want to hear what y'all think about this [ __ ]
- 1:41:18
because I was highly pissed off yesterday my timeline suggested I watch some [ __ ] right yeah you going to
- 1:41:24
blame it on timeline it was 100 that's why I F half this [ __ ] what y'all watching what you shorty would watch
- 1:41:29
this hell no this [ __ ] is called uh strange things about the Johnson's it's
- 1:41:36
it's a Netflix I was going to say wait a minute what uh what popped up when you
- 1:41:42
typed that in Google if you hate somebody if you hate somebody let him watch that movie that [ __ ] is worse than
- 1:41:48
I'm curious what popped up when you typed that in on Google strange thing things about Johnson no no no no no I ain't googled this [ __ ] they said yo
- 1:41:53
it's on YouTube if you want to watch it or it's on Netflix swear to God you ain't Google it I don't believe it I can check I can check his cookies [ __ ]
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stranger things about what the [ __ ] pause a moment in time Jesus
- 1:42:07
Christ wait cookies yes uh I'm going to just run through uh we missed uh Adele
- 1:42:14
in the black friends comment I didn't think too much into that I I just think black and friends is a trigger work so
- 1:42:21
people people are sensitive once they hear my black which is why I thought that it could have been worded better
- 1:42:28
not that there was something wrong with what she was saying I do think that she was extremely sincere I think she meant every word of it um but it could have
- 1:42:34
been worded better and I'm not even from sensitive uh get offended over everything I I I agree with the wording
- 1:42:42
I don't think it meant anything by it um trying to think did we miss oh uh to end
- 1:42:48
our argument with Frank Ocean he has the same deal that chance has with Apple so if he's independent so it's chance no
- 1:42:55
he's not independent either oh okay that's fine and to uh my argument I think it was last week or the week
- 1:43:00
before when y'all said that uh fake love wasn't a big record oh I got murdered for that okay I know y'all got murdered
- 1:43:09
with people showing you numbers which didn't refute what we were saying we were saying that its impact is his
- 1:43:15
impact is no longer as great as it was his numbers are still reflect
- 1:43:21
of him being mear disagreed that any I had I had the conspiracy that Apple put
- 1:43:26
cuz there that [ __ ] is at the top of anytime I go Apple music the fake love click it now hey so all you idiots
- 1:43:32
telling me how much fake love is being played on the radio in Kansas City where you are that's paid for like that that
- 1:43:38
doesn't speak to my point about impact and that's why see I don't listen to radio and I could always gauge how
- 1:43:45
impactful Drake was because no matter where you were you were going to hear it and that was that that that was my point
- 1:43:50
I was going to ready to go to there um Drake dropped three records that night that fake love dropped people can't even name the other
- 1:43:57
two uh two birds one stone I thought he was wrapping his ass off in that he killed saying I really enjoyed that I forgot the other one though that's my
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point yeah I don't remember it before that one that would have never happened that was my point right there it won't
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happen it would not happen before all of them records I knew that I don't think a lot of people could say two birds one stone the other one no cuz it has 21
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Savage on it oh yeah that was that record but I'm just saying goes to show for him the impact ain't there like like
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his records would all take off soon as it drop yeah yeah I'm rolling uh quick
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points uh Yukon Huskies they've won a 100 games none of y'all [ __ ] are
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beating them that's it they're ruining women's basketball well you did 100
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episodes and no one's beating us and no one's beating us I don't even see y
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other podcast Dr drop very often to be honest with you mhm y'all y' don't drop
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as quickly anymore and I ain't even talking about I'm not talking about tax he has a valid reason I mean the rest of you [ __ ] I
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would say I would say tax has has a pretty good reason I want to know who's running taxes uh Twitter and
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Instagram is it being are people posting I follow tax on [ __ ] free tax merch I
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know it ain't him oh good for him yeah yeah good for him maybe I'll buy a shirt um I'm not even touching on Troy av's
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Court outfit I don't want to talk about it I'm not doing it I'm done I just want to ask is Troy still saving the kids
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from becoming weirdos or is he the weirdo no but about about Troy AV though
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did you hear the latest development in that case that was a great on line by Rory his uh they said the the prosecutor
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said his DNA is not on the weapon at all so they ruling off they they ready to take off the uh attempted
- 1:45:40
murder a lot yeah we knew that um this was just this just [ __ ] well a conclusion I mean we knew what the D was
- 1:45:47
but they just released the [ __ ] but doesn't he still have to uh sit cuz they showed up to the hospital with three
- 1:45:53
guns the one that was in the spot and two other guns that just were in the whip so don't he have to answer for
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those I don't know I'm just talking one part I know that bulletproof vests are
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illegal to own so I I doubt that that was a real one which means that you wore it for the
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Optics of it and that means you haven't learned very much I mean if I got shot twice I would
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be terrified and we bulletproof vest but I that was the first thing I thought I said I only think those are legal and if
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they are legal why would you wear one to a courtroom and I don't think uh wearing a hat that implies that you're cook and
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crack is probably the best thing to go to a hearing in yeah but you know um KKK
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dude died said his kids killed him right it said his kids or wife one or the
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other makes me no difference I don't wish death on anybody but what you want me to you know if some people have to go
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well [ __ ] we all got to go oh I did think it was dope that they put Q's name on the uh granny I thought
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that was amazing people that passed away rest in peace Q world star he has contributed to Hip Hop I thought that
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was real good um I want to shout out whatever story is going to break today which is tomorrow that we're going to
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miss something's going to break because it happens every [ __ ] podcast where as soon as we leave a story is happening
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Valentine story going to break whatever's going to happen tomorrow we called it here First's something will
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happen the Valentine's Day I said it's Valentine's day it's going to be some [ __ ] [ __ ] to happen today's February
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14th it's gon to be some [ __ ] [ __ ] well no today's the 15th Tes Taco Tuesday it's Wednesday it's Wednesday the 15th
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the day after February 14th is it sagic day
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s I'm not touching this one my relationship is in a great space I'm not
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even playing with heard of that holiday bro like Rory is at the age where he can still like dress his girl and deal with
- 1:47:52
what she gives back to him I I can't like I'm too old I can't deal with this
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dress just [ __ ] shut the [ __ ] up uh and you don't leave your crib that's that's
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scary like she's always there yeah that's the problem problem she don't never leave the [ __ ]
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gr I can stay home all day [ __ ] I woke up today on Valentine's Day she oh baby
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let's get breakfast [ __ ] no go to work
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let me I need some time to surprise you with stuff uh love and& hip-hop
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anything I thought she was going to take me back when I gave her the Porche man 40 Grand 40 Grand Stephen
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Mona that'll get that'll get that'll get me send a Erica appearance and not
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[ __ ] with and and Mo and M be there whatever and if Maul is there we
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might get division or [Music] party that was that was cute we might
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film in calabases y Mo hate that we that he got relationships with [ __ ] stars
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no I don't y'all [ __ ] just stupid with it stupid wait who said that Maul was
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the one holding the camera for
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Cameron wait no Rory I'm not first of all I'm not going to let you get all these jokes off on mall and you dead ass
- 1:49:24
tried to get a [ __ ] to change her number if you bought her a car I don't what's the problem you got you don't got
- 1:49:31
to ride your motorcycle now that's a different type of controlling Rory she was riding a motorcycle in a winter time
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like in Jersey man was and she was real happy about the car when she saw it until he said you got to change your
- 1:49:43
phone number but I don't understand the men that want women to change their phone number what does that what does
- 1:49:48
that do what does it do tell me know DMS is still out there she still got the sameem she had the same brain she's G
- 1:49:56
[ __ ] text him the new number first of off and store him under Pizza Hut talking about that she she knew she knew
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Pizza don't call you yeah I know she knew he was weak when she pulled the little move at the basketball court all
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up on my man and knowing he was standing right there she knew what she was doing so it was a VH1 hourly rental and I'm
- 1:50:14
sure but this is my problem this is my problem I felt like six weeks ago I felt
- 1:50:20
like six weeks ago should have been the finale for Love & Hip Hop so the fact that they had mad more episodes after
- 1:50:27
that I was confused but I rocked with it so then they flew all of the girls to Mexico to create at least seven more
- 1:50:34
stories all right cool I sat through that too so y'all dragged this out only to give me the finale last night which
- 1:50:41
was rushed y'all just rushed through closing all of the stories that y'all dragged
- 1:50:48
Snoop that was rushed it was boring it was not compelling it was boring the
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whole season jeels yeah but they dragged it and they gave us a little bit with snoop's girlfriend so then you didn't
- 1:51:00
give us that snoop's girlfriend then flew to Mexico and then we never seen that [ __ ] again where did she land
- 1:51:05
after Mexico no for real she's now working at the resort happily serving
- 1:51:11
drinks at happy hours so I just didn't like it or I didn't like it I didn't
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like it at all so I already told all of them before y'all call my phone
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right and y'all going to call and I know it s know it too before y call get it together babe you think
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I'm about to be up there with we had to watch five grown women pretend to try to
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put kids together for 18 [ __ ] weeks I felt like it was longer than that and
- 1:51:41
then every other week they kept saying well let's just try it one more time for the kids it's all for the kids it's all
- 1:51:47
for the kids trying to put these kids together then they get together and just talk about their beefs that's what women oh man oh man
- 1:51:55
man oh man oh man shown up I'm here for the kids no you're not kimella was there
- 1:52:01
for the kids [ __ ] all for the kids everything's for the kids got a letot of kids man so love and& hip hop is over I
- 1:52:08
will watch The Reunion next week to see what's going on yeah billions comes back Sunday [ __ ] that oh that is true that's
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big damn that was a long Hiatus what is billions I forgot about billions oo
- 1:52:21
billions is it HBO or Showtime billions is HBO with the guy oh yeah Showtime
- 1:52:26
billions is Showtime with the white guy from Homeland um and it's about Wall Street
- 1:52:35
uh stock entrepreneur Finance Finance he's the biggest stock uh hedge fund
- 1:52:40
Guru in the universe and they can't [ __ ] with him you should watch it this is eill um I'm still watching zoo zoo is
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still hard I'm on uh uh I'm I'm still in season one I'm like maybe three episodes
- 1:52:54
left but yeah me too that's where I am that's where am zo zo is nuts zo zoo is hard if especially if you love animals like me it's about the animals taking
- 1:53:00
over the world check out Zoo if you get a moment um I'm in the streets I'm not watching TV with
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you fine so you're in the streets that means you have a sleeper song for us I do uh Henny paloa if you're in New
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Orleans for Allstar Weekend sleeper song this is a plug yeah it is well you were plugging shows that you don't get paid
- 1:53:18
for so let me plug some I'm getting paid for True uh Henny Po in New Orleans tickets are still available of course
- 1:53:24
there'll be a million surprise guests cuz it's all-star weekend it's all I got
- 1:53:29
Mo that's GNA be a [ __ ] show Allstar Weekend dog yeah I'm Rory says they got
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H paloa London coming did I spill the beans on that yeah you did we'll edit out
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sorry well if there's well listen well if there's any
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in the event that some time in the future there is a hen poooa London I think that'll be sick hen pooa London if
- 1:53:54
y'all actually pull it off like flush out the business that'll be nuts because London they
- 1:54:01
drink they go y'all GNA be the ones on the floor they goingon kill us yeah y'all
- 1:54:06
think yall coming over there with some Henny all right all right uh
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Americans uh I got a sleeper song I'll start I was going to play ret from London cuz he bodied the intro on his
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new e P that I do not know the name of right now but it's Valentine's Day or
- 1:54:24
post Valentine's Day so I'm not going to do that yet next week I'll play some
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wret Oh I thought you said TR no wret wret wret I was like damn put not to be confused with the wretch from Jersey CU
- 1:54:38
there's a wret from Jersey that's dope as well that's wretch with an R the wretch from London is with a W they're
- 1:54:45
both dope so I didn't care which one you thought I was talking about yeah yeah yeah yeah they both fired up you know
- 1:54:51
one day on a coming podcast we going to have a nice personal talk I'm going to address all my beef
- 1:54:57
with surf Trev and deani I am cuz Trev
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sent me a long text yesterday that I ignored and it was like real heartfelt
- 1:55:10
and sentimental so why don't you ignore it [ __ ] NM did you text him you're fired
- 1:55:17
too I I got a I got I feel a way up toward them three [ __ ] I think somewhere deep inside of me if I really
- 1:55:24
just think about it I would love to hear that me too serious you would love to
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hear yeah why is it happen I would just love to hear that okay cuz I don't I'm not sure I know the the beefs you have
- 1:55:37
with or the issues you have with them three I don't want to say beef issue it's just something you feel some type
- 1:55:42
of way all three of them I I I don't know why to any of them that's what I'm saying I I wouldn't want to hear that
- 1:55:48
we'll discuss it on one a black heart out now black heart out now black heart out right now um oh my
- 1:55:55
sleeper song yall going R&B I think I'm I'm going to go R&B I'm
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not I'm not I'm not I'm playing some ignorant [ __ ] oh so
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you go first play oh you want stop my ignorant yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah don't play my [ __ ] soft sweet [ __ ] meel
- 1:56:15
melodic [ __ ] and then you come with a new casan NOA wait you Bann from [ __ ]
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you Oakley to the sleepers Oaky back Oaky back I'mma play you know I'm pretty sure
- 1:56:27
it's hot where it's from I got paid I mean I'mma play no not at all not at all I just think the record is is hard and I
- 1:56:33
think it's going to it's going to uh it's going to take off in a minute it's it's obviously taking off though because the numbers say so but this is uh T
- 1:56:41
Grizzly Man first day out I like the song already he just got
- 1:56:47
out it's first day out I think this going to be a big big
- 1:56:52
record it has to be hard with that name yeah these [ __ ] prayed on my
- 1:56:57
downfall what these [ __ ] prayed on my downfall on n 10 [ __ ] I stood tall you
- 1:57:03
did show these disloyal [ __ ] how to boy go get a thermometer for the pot I need this [ __ ] cooked right let's keep
- 1:57:09
that water for 100° F you ever been inside a federal courtroom niggaer you ever went to trial and fought for your
- 1:57:15
life being broke did something to my spirit ass [ __ ] to plug they act like they couldn't hear me look at me now
- 1:57:21
driving German engineering you don't want your baby mama the mey remember when I used to use your to hit the roll
- 1:57:28
hit the O and make them big boy Sals move remember when you had them green things made with vacuum seals trying not
- 1:57:34
to have them green things smell you know about related through money I don't know nothing I just used to see them walk to
- 1:57:39
the con I [ __ ] with [ __ ] my body count go from Persian to any further questions you could take that out with the lawyer my [ __ ] fle J
- 1:57:47
Money that's crazy low tell youo
- 1:57:53
I best dress with no support and Pa lawyers coming in and out of court hey W
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though AO ain't it a blessing we made it out Kentucky after all that happened after the pre-trials after the status
- 1:58:06
after them impact statements after the castle hey JR [ __ ] ain't it a blessing we made it out of Ling after all that
- 1:58:12
happened that [ __ ] [ __ ] after Michigan State after H when our man told on us them B they took from us joy R [ __ ] but
- 1:58:19
the money long six M brick M knock your Bo down pick her up knock her back down pull her tracks out yes I slap girl yes
- 1:58:25
I slap dog yes I slap L yes I slap a [ __ ] [ __ ] if he act out yes I C cases
- 1:58:30
on the road with them Killers bro kill me if I snitch cuz if you snitch I'm going to kill you spent a lot of time on the yard with them gorillas still tall
- 1:58:37
did I let [ __ ] hold me quit being silly I know for a fact your [ __ ] [ __ ] get wet for a [ __ ] cuz I do it better
- 1:58:42
plus I'm doing better than [ __ ] I'm at home when I'm down there in lingon [ __ ] about the king they going to drop
- 1:58:47
you in who next to you [ __ ] said little te get ahead of them [ __ ] when you take off don't look back and try to
- 1:58:53
rescue them [ __ ] man the make sure you get the rest of them [ __ ] don't let get the best to you just get the revenue
- 1:58:58
[ __ ] so let me know what you can handle okay come grab it here go some extra so if I'm busy you can manage happy bling
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dance $60 Sal get it D back tell the f I need a talent my first offer was 30
- 1:59:10
years not a day low I told them crackers holler at me when they sober on parole I'm a fing you think I ain't got that
- 1:59:15
blor you right bro take his head off his [ __ ] should hit the roll with the roll was
- 1:59:23
get you hear me hey I heard I had some sneak whoever
- 1:59:31
feeling call it right now going to be a big
- 1:59:37
record where I like it all over period period T Grizzly first day out man it's
- 1:59:44
a good [Music] record you think it could be big in the
- 1:59:49
way that Dreams and Nightmares Intro [ __ ] was cuz like you think that might ring
- 1:59:56
off in the club that's not a fair compar well I mean it's that would be simar like the greatest intro ever I'm saying
- 2:00:02
the the structure of the record is very much like that yeah with the whole vibe beat change yeah I see what you're
- 2:00:09
saying but that that record I mean it's already taken off but I think it's going to be a lot a lot lot bigger yeah he's
- 2:00:16
nice and he's from Detroit I believe he's from Kentucky at least that's what it sounds like uh and then but he
- 2:00:24
obviously spent some time in yeah he saying the con [ __ ] that that Cony Island dog [ __ ] ain't that in Detroit
- 2:00:31
yeah come on ice with your [ __ ] uh kidp I don't know where to get the KP
- 2:00:36
hop oh yeah future got a project dropping right cuz we didn't even make mention of that mhm Friday oh yeah and
- 2:00:42
then and then someone I also I'm going to start group chat confessions coming soon but not
- 2:00:48
right now um then then someone asked in the group chat if they thought future were big enough to release a project 3
- 2:00:53
days before we all say yes right I asked it and I say I don't know but then I thought about the Apple deal yeah yeah
- 2:00:59
he'll get it done yeah shout out to future I love the Sierra uh dancing around her crib pregnant video by the
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way my girl is making me just like a bunch of real soft things I loved it uh go ahead ice bet s didn't even show you
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that [ __ ] I show her baby did you see
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Sierra bring BR that's funny no s outside changing
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her own oil I'm watching SI come
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look when you're done with the transmission my my [ __ ] is called um ain't no coming down it's by uh two
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artists New Orleans AR and who else two artists out of New Orleans who
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honestly remind me of like a modernday Hot Boys mixed with booy and Webby and
- 2:01:53
what ignor it this reminds me of a modern day Hot Boys mixed with booy and
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Webby with a little IL mtic not anyway a
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little a damage little Vinnie VY vichi a little bit of John
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second with some new addition and I made a mistake little bit
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of the unreleased cannabis album yeah
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anyway here go the record and they're from Baton Rouge not uh
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not I'm going to New Orleans tomorrow so let
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[Music] me got they bepp on tell put on want to
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be from New Orleans so bad just go bro you and Drew bre do whatever y'all want to
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[Music]
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do remind me the cords on the
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world I don't care I'm still joking
- 2:03:21
yeah but [ __ ] with accents going always sound hard this sounds like the hardest thing ever what he saying is
- 2:03:27
hard I'm click that meet each other at the cross and ain't talking Ser but [ __ ] I
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got AAL theong tape the rip a [ __ ] FLH I call her Kim I love her like w but I
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know she a [ __ ] I gri [ __ ] agress noing with no pressure
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andig be talking who we be stepping on the accent [ __ ] is not fair that [ __ ] is hard I like that a lot the accent [ __ ]
- 2:03:53
is is not fair like [ __ ] Pimp C said holl at broads at the mole and it sounded like the greatest bar I ever
- 2:03:58
heard in my entire life because of his accent it's not fair that [ __ ] was dope not just for the accent though that's
- 2:04:04
just a hard record last week we skipped over young Ma's uh fader
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cover probably I don't know why maybe we just forgot we about to forget her too so uhoh m uh oh she still got some
- 2:04:20
people obviously a fader did that she got some people that still believe 14
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it's not over 1445 right now bro M your take on that 1445 what in her
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15 minutes is what ice is saying 1445 I think she can I think she's she's really she can rap though I think that's we
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agree to's point that she has a skill base so it's not like she's a gimmick yeah and I think that I think that I
- 2:04:47
think she's just one feature away from having like a cons a really record that's like right now I think she's one
- 2:04:54
feat she so she needs the feature it don't look like she in the studio I mean most people you can't really name a
- 2:04:59
crazy dope record without a feature right now you know what I'm saying like that's just the era we in like you know what I mean we use somebody else is what
- 2:05:05
they bring to the record I can name mad dope records without a feature that's not true but the majority of dope records right now the sound is oh well
- 2:05:13
if you're asking me to talk about now and the sound I'm old I'm wash I'm not but that's we got to talk about the current and I think that she has talent
- 2:05:20
that will she she will have some life in this industry 1445 I'm on the current wave stay off
- 2:05:27
the main stream that boy been nice for a long time Rory you got to sleeper or you want me to go uh you can go is the I
- 2:05:33
think the ask about you how got it all right all right all right all right I saw
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this I saw this and the EP was called her too so like an idiot I thought it
- 2:05:48
was was part two of of the hurry PE guess what how miss this it wasn't
- 2:05:57
however there was this song that I liked called the
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[Music] canvas this is the canvas off the her2
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EP hey prise be to
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let you go he didn't know you were
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special probably told you life was black and white he was only trying to get your
- 2:06:32
life well if you it I could show you what you hi for a little vision and
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precision then we're good to go I don't want to see you fall
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apart girl I don't know where to start you touch you I
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go hey I'm just here to add a little col to the C baby is for
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the I'm just here to add a little to the cabage eyes a crazy shade of
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blue I'm just here add a little to the can can't ever make another
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you hey I'm just here it hey call to [Music]
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the never saw you com never saw that was that I don't take pay for play so [ __ ]
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Ain't getting second verses like that that's off the her too that's h e r t o
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o e p that's called the canvas that's that I like
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this with that said here's the
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second I don't want to see you fall apart hey girl I don't know where to
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start you're such a [Music] work that's how you get all them RT
- 2:07:59
[ __ ] to [ __ ] on the first night yeah you like a
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canvas you like a blank where you hear this [ __ ] you
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remember uh dead press mind sex I got to hear it you remember that I have to hear
- 2:08:16
it it's a good record it's just funny it's press dead press dead press dead press I have to hear and then 50 of
- 2:08:22
course redid it and said I'm not I'm not about that mindx [ __ ]
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[ __ ] yo 50 got to bring the remakes back by the way all right I have some uh Barefoot
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[ __ ] I feel like I I stopped doing Barefoot for like two weeks I got to get back to my roots you did stop for two weeks yeah I got to get back to it uh
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this is um odza all we need
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oh yeah we back there for now oh yeah yeah oh we taking our shoes off this unlacing the kicks
- 2:08:59
yeah it's hard
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[Music] though
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hey this [ __ ] make feel good about life more life hey coming
- 2:09:23
[Music] soon ttic to expose you
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Bab I'm just trying to see you when your morning
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[Music] baby so full of [ __ ] this is Rory
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single that's my alien yeah that is hard let me push
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this now I'm mad at Rory tra
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Amani the beat changed too on the second part it's even dop
- 2:09:59
Parks Parks saves the beat yeah gar hey I need to hear this on the bigs
- 2:10:07
yeah on the bigs I need to hear this on the bigs
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yeah cuz Joe does in fact have the bigs in his house only you
- 2:10:20
I should have put a 16 right there but Rory ain't sent it to me oh come on
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[Music] E this hard
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though e with one yo Parks I think we got
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one hey look put the a in there
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oh I'm leaving I'm going to [ __ ] my [ __ ] man this [ __ ] make me feel
- 2:10:57
[Music] great I think division is out of here
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when they get something of this sound my mic is even on I
- 2:11:10
agree Drake more division more
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division yeah that song is hard that's
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hard tell you what the hell they were saying more beat on there yes another minute and a half all right well future
- 2:11:30
reference whoever takes the last song in the sleepers play the beat low and let us talk [ __ ] on the way out but it's fine because [ __ ] uh I was going to
- 2:11:37
play a m song he ain't on my label [ __ ] that he a on my label yo uh oh that's
- 2:11:44
what I wanted to say real quick uh black heart out Trev Richard project is out or coming it is out it is out yeah I ain't
- 2:11:52
listening to it yet cuz I'm mad at him but damn this is my sleeper interlude
- 2:11:59
they want to play cuz they the words y you got a hard project coming out man what what's going on this is uh this is cocane Rivers
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interlude that's the name of the group cocaine River he's a ra this is just an interlude I thought it was hard is this
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the same guy you was playing nah no no no hell no no you think it was about the money uh M started that
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funny [ __ ] was hating on my honey right let me give wait
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[ __ ] I'm WR my response record I got a response record come next we we bring that back no no later
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later me now huh yeah huh it's all me now huh yeah it's all me yeah don't
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worry thought you was my blow my [ __ ] Jo I ain't even full time Jack don't
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worry back all we got it hey y'all have a blast hope yall had a good Valentine's
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Day happy 100th episode congratulations couldn't have done it without y'all thanks for riding thanks for listening thanks for supporting uh thank you to my
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friends for being here uh and doing this [ __ ] every [ __ ] week thank you to all parties involved Chris Pat Ferrari uh
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just thank everybody thank everybody more podcast more
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podcast cuz this don't for
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