The Joe Budden Podcast x Trife Gangsta Interview
Joe Budden Podcast Episode 108.1, “The Joe Budden Podcast x Trife Gangsta Interview,” released April 22, 2017. Joe, Rory, & Mal sit down with Trife Gangsta. They discuss the recent Troy Ave comments, the work Trife is doing in the community, and more. Full transcript and searchable timestamps below.

Joe Budden Podcast Ep. 108.1 Transcript
Full transcript of The Joe Budden Podcast x Trife Gangsta Interview (1:10:43 long). Search it, or click any timestamp to jump to that moment.
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and we are live we are live Rory just asked me how I wanted to start this I
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told him to just come on and that was a very valid question Tri because we don't do guests right copy we don't do
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interviews we actually turn down interviews and guess absolutely I feel
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like a lot of times that [ __ ] be contrived a lot of times people want to
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come up here on their press run and just utilize the platform for some [ __ ] that ain't really
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important so I don't allow it um uh as someone who throughout his career has
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never had the best relationship with press because press just comes with its
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own narrative uh they have their own agendas their own motives um and I'm
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paranoid anyway I deal with paranoia I'm not with it I don't like talking to [ __ ] so when I watched this doggy
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diamonds interview doggy diamonds I know everybody knows doggy diamonds somehow I
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can't even tell you I know doggy diamonds honestly and I was watching uh for those
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of you who have not seen it I'll give doggy Diamond some press and Pub cuz that's my guy check the doggy Diamond
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Tri gangster interview I watched it twice
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definitely you're I never met you I've had the honor of meeting your brother um
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so I want to pay my respects first uh the wise need few words and
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What's Understood don't need to be said if you know Banger then you know Banger
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and you just know what it is uh so I automatically when realness transfers
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it's like energy so when I'm listening to you in that interview your words was just so
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powerful man it like was I watching with you no
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Johnny yeah with me boy did them shits jump off the [ __ ] screen my wifi was
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bad is what I'm telling you and I still sat I might have watched it a good four
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times because I was [ __ ] appalled at the [ __ ]
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audacity of media today it brought me back to why I hate
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media today life was [ __ ] lost that's why
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so when I'm watching you talk and I'm hearing you say I don't like to talk right yeah right I feel that and
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I'm explaining to the gentlemen I'm watching it with who don't really come from that ilk to understand some of the
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things you were saying I was saying that like when death occurred
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and family is in grieving and turmoil and whatever you're going
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through somebody has to represent the family somebody that's right
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unfortunately hip hop is so [ __ ] immature today that all we want to keep talking
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about is bum ass [ __ ] Troy AV TR let me familiarize you with me on
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this podcast all the [ __ ] I say to get me in some [ __ ] I say it I own that [ __ ]
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so even today when this [ __ ] and I ain't going to spend too much time talking about him this is only even relevant cuz he's still got the [ __ ]
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audacity to think that this is music Still to think that I'mma waste the bar
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talking about him you are [ __ ] ins [ __ ] nificant
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my [ __ ] I would not waste a [ __ ] bar and I want to be clear on that cuz
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audacity comes back to [ __ ] mind you so [ __ ] stupid right and it's
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going to be my only time addressing you here cuz I want to talk to him you so [ __ ] stupid that through all of your
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[ __ ] ignorance and the [ __ ] [ __ ] that has occurred you still on a [ __ ]
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track dissing a [ __ ] that's praying for you still
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right that's why I'm done talking about him and that's why I want to talk to Tri
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I want to talk talk to a man mm I want to talk to an adult I want to talk to
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somebody see when you really live certain things you really don't want to live
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them and you look great D thank wait a second man let's be very
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clear man this [ __ ] [ __ ] dappered Downes at some cleaned up yeah take a
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pick with these shoes and the whole thing so everybody can see what you that 100% how how are you doing I'm I'm
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blessed brother I mean despite everything I'm healthy I'm strong I can't complain you know uh every day
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something's happening so when you looking at life from the perspective of somebody suffering somewhere you got to look at where you at so that's how I
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move every day you know I thank Maul for uh kind of orchestrating this and and
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making this making this happen what um cuz I don't even want to talk about any
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of the [ __ ] [ __ ] no I mean what listen whatever you I'm here like you know I told Brother you know you know my my
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brother myy shout out to him because it's all about relationships right right and that's how I got on you know did the
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interview with doggy Diamond shout out to him of course again because I know bro so you know we build regularly and
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that's just us in the streets you know we just building about things that's going on that's not for everybody so when the conversation got to that point
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I'm like all right bro let's go you know what I mean so you know that came out and everybody is responding to it in the
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way that they responding to it and we get to that as well and it comes a point where right everything you say Ro is
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another response right and there of course people reaching out yo yo this
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talk about right Mor hit me okay that's a relationship that's respectful you know I respect you I respect you know
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how you move so all right we can sit down and we you know we can answer some of the questions that people want to answer at the same time in my anger and
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my energy people may not have understood a lot of things right so you know I'm open to questions I a got no problem
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with that type of stuff M all right so that's that's real so so he basically have opened the floor do y'all do y'all
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have any questions did y'all see the interview yeah I saw the interview and I mean I think a lot has happened in
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response to that that's new and I don't think has been addressed and I'm not sure how you feel addressing the record
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that came out shortly after I've thus forgot the title and don't even want to plug it but your name was broughten up
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after you said those great things about your brother it seemed that negativity was the response back
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yes yes I did notice that yeah I did I did but um I know a I
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I you know what did I what did I expect and I'm going say that to you too right um when you dealing with a individual
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and you understand how people move you know what's going to cause them to respond a certain way and that's where that man is where don't say my name
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negative or I'm going to say something back right is that a good thing to have
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I guess cuz you sometimes in the music you feel that you have to respond that way you know what I mean so
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for me I'm not a rapper what am I am I supposed to be getting on the track and saying something back to that right my
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whole intent of coming out and having that interview wasn't solely directed on just Troy a right it was the cus of the
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things that he was misrepresenting and misrepresenting my family that BR it to the Forefront but people also lost the
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overall perspective of other things that I pointed out in that interview right but so when it comes to that that song I
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I was bumping at the other day right I was laugh you know what I'm saying I don't I'm not letting that come on that's not M it's nothing it's nothing
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yeah you know it don't bother me you know I know who I am I know what I represent so how would that affect me why do I keep I'm not going to keep
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feeding into that right cuz I got to get back to really where I'm at so I understand that and at the same time
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he's trying to show some type of something now right did we not catch that right so now I'm having this
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conversation now it's open other conversation y bro so he did you see what he put on um you know on Instagram
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to reach out to your moms how do you feel so it's a lot of conversations going to continue to happen I got to answer question all these things I'm I'm
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understand that you're trying something right so do I give you the respect for that or you know what I'm saying do I still sit back and say I've been giving
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you enough time to show right to be honorable is this real is this the real honorable step that you
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taken I don't know if I'm looking for Troy a to display honor at all in
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anything and I guess it's only it was only disturbing to me Tri because I'm
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watching Charlamagne and uh and him and Troy have this conversation and it wasn't until
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probably an hour an hour into it cuz I watched that whole thing that I said oh
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[ __ ] okay they there's there's history there had they maybe had this
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conversation earlier or sooner or had somebody got
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involved I think things play out a little different here so when you talk about the steps leading up to events
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that's real important it's real important to to Target what we're seeing this man display and why because you
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feed you feed these false perceptions to your hiphop consumer crowd fact because
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we build up image and Hip-Hop image is very important in hip-hop some of us in
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hip-hop it's not really an image for some people have done a lot of time in jail some people have some experience
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and living a certain life that you don't want to live anymore so you ain't really about pushing that this [ __ ] running
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around and this vesting all of this [ __ ] in the vest illegal I don't understand how he's even able to do all that n you
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know a lot of people don't understand New York State Lao bro real [ __ ] um pardon me I can't I can't you
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[ __ ] I'm keep it the doggy diam interview all right my mom's you know
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what I'm saying got got my mom follows me on Twitter and all that yeah yeah uh you up the cursion and stuff okay yeah
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you was aggressive you came off strong and I got and on that I got to apologize a lot of people that don't understand
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that right but it's not that's I'm not trying to portray something when that happened that was my immediate response
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absolutely right and and luckily that it was verbal absolutely I thought you showed so much just positive will and
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restraint thank you thank you thought and I and I've been doing that for eight months right and and hearing everything
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and that's what I'm saying it's like every time some happens it comes right back to me from some Avenue right and I
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just got to sit down and not respond right look at you know I look at say for example the dogy diamonds interview you
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got all types of comments in there and this is I'm not listen if you can't sit
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down to have this conversation with me your opinion ain't going to matter to me right everybody got something to say
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right but when we can talk face to face and you can say yo listen I want to hear what you got to say cuz that mean you matter in in circum of what I'm dealing
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with right so as I'm as I'm moving through all this I'm coming to the terms that there's a lot of different
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individuals who not understanding where all of this start and how they continuing to feed the fire right so you
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feeding it consistently but not knowing or are you doing it intensely and we talking about different Avenues right
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when you talk about the media level know what are you trying to see happen yes right what do you want right now right
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that was my problem because I spoke about one for example Lisa effers right
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people in cast that you reach out to me all the time mhm all right tell me your
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intent in having a conversation with him and having a interview with him right
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about ad I wanted to know her intent and his intent you want me to be honest why are y'all there yeah what is the intent
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of this you know we understand he's going through something right now right but what is the goal of this to promote his album you talk about my brother I
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don't understand what is the intent and it's always about intent I pay attention to people's intent what are you doing
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when you come with this right and that intent didn't make sense to me right so then you get to the next level of
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understanding you reach out to me for something that makes sense to you reach out to me to understand the pain that I may go through by you doing that so I
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can have the heads up so I can understand that so I'm not blindsided yeah like who what's that you know oh
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when I just get the text with the with the uh the link like come on we can't be you know if you respect me you
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understand I'm going bring something to your attention ahead of time right and we don't know Lisa ever to move like
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that like that's different yeah she we we had a good Rel that's I'm saying to you like that we have a respect
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relation why would you know I'm saying like you just keep fueling this I don't
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understand I'm like you I'm paranoid I look at everything like hold up that's not right you know when my
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brother got here I had to look at that like who sent who to do what you know was that for me was that all a setup
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because I'm out here trying to save my community not trying to doing that you understand what I'm saying like you you start to look at a lot of things
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differently because you don't understand why things happen that way how does somebody get to a spot with the joint
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and nobody caught that but then I had to sit back and say I know how that cuz I I know it go down reality of it that's not
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different from our communities we know that happened we know how getting there so you got to go back and then you go
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back to how far the situation is going on and how long I know about it and being able to be calm and Collective and
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respectful and and still understand that things can happen right and I'm hold of
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myself because I know that people are affected by my actions M my voice my
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sound right everybody don't care about stuff like that I care about that I understand if I say something it's going to affect people right and I had to also
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look at my interview on that as well right and I got to tell people relax I'm good you know people worri about my pain
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my my he about to lose no I'm not about to lose my mind I spoke on what I spoke on I spoke on regards my family but
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let's get to the facts of everything that's happening so people can have peace cuz that's what I got from a lot of people that they got y I got you know
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I got peace I had a brother he hit me he said this is in my face he said because
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of you cuz I was going through the same thing you was going through I ain't kill
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somebody show you that in my phone my my Facebook message you you ain't got to cuz it's real I'm saying fact let me
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watching you tri see now I'm blessed and fortunate enough to I still have both my
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parents in my life uh I still have my four brothers I still have a sister so I
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don't know the pain of losing of relative like that but that's why that's
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why this was important for me person that's my point because I lost a brother due to gun violence you know what I'm saying so when I looking at Trip's
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interview and how he you know I saw the restraint that he had and how he was conducting himself and that took me back
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to when I lost my brother and I'm like yo I I I can relate to that and even today this was 2003 that this happened
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so almost 14 years later I still you know certain days I just get in my mind because dude hasn't been caught I wonder
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every day if I'm face to face with this dude if I've seen him in at events and [ __ ] it that still plays in my mind so
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you know I I relive that and you never get over it it it you know time helps and you know you have memories and you
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move on but you never fully get over it so that's why this was personal for me and this is something that I needed to
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bring forth because I lost a Brother D the gun violence and I know exactly what Tri is going through and now he's ready
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to just go and whatever whatever I live that why I'm saying I don't need to ever see that text because putting myself in
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that position right you just right 100% it takes restraint so now because I'm
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from New Jersey hold up Rory CU you know my memory is bad because I'm from New Jersey Tri you were saying earlier the
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laws in New York are very intricate and let me tell you something that system over there is very different from New
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Jersey man when they get you over there it's different so I have a hard time
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understanding a few things like one why he's able to run around with that bulletproof vest on because I know it's illegal and I know I almost got jammed
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up when the cops came in and saw mine so and two no body charge yet okay
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so one New York state law you can have if you're not a felon
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you have the right to purchase a bulletproof vest to protect your business and your family it's federal
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law if you're a felon you cannot possess a gun A gun in New York state law is
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excuse me a vest becomes illegal in New York state law when you have a gun with
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the vest check it out yourself that's the
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facts like they don't want to talk about that because you look at New York laws you can't you can't you don't have a right to carry a concealed weapon M
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right but you got a right to protect your family your business okay that's not that's not the law in Jersey that's the law in New York
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check pull up in the feds you read you'll see it that's [ __ ] dope yeah definitely boy you know so but you could
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wear it just in the [ __ ] Street I mean you you you ain't I mean that's what he doing right now right and and with all due respect like you know homie
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you bugging I would think it's a law against that I mean at the point he's an entertainer right he I don't know
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sometimes we try to just keep up certain yeah at this point I don't even know that that's a real vest I mean I don't
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even know if you built like that to be able to wear real vest them shit's heavy my [ __ ] um listen [ __ ] but the No
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Charge yet is confusing to me because his cameras all over in Plaza yo so all
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right one two when you talk about that people always talking about yo this is an open case and you know that's snitch
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in and and Homie first and foremost right you know I I my track record is
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respectable um I could pull up all my papers if you Google my government my name ain't just Tri gangster my name is
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Shan Duke McFatter Tri today these [ __ ] don't even know what's you know what I'm saying so point is there's a
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difference and understand if I ain't out there committing a crime with you there's a difference homie when you sitting out committing crimes with
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people and now we telling each other that's what that is right Miss Jones look out the window and she see something and she cooperate that's not
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what that is right get it right little homies but in regards to that this is now all public information right you go
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back to what they know we talking Federal right everybody say well he
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ain't he's not guilt Federal okay that gun was
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found they ran whatever test they need to run and it said DNA on a
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gun what what can you argue about that when the FED say okay we got your DNA on the gun we went and found the person who
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purchased the gun we got you in the pig with somebody affiliated with that purchas of that gun so we know that's
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your gun so we going to pull you in here and give you a federal charge cuz you're fing in possession of a weapon that's automatically Federal yes I'm following
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you all right so there's no you not getting away from that okay right this this is feds we
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let's talk about the the conviction in that how do you prove so now we talking about the release of information now
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that he allegedly adds Trey name to the situation right and this is somebody that everybody honorable free this this
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boat Buster how do you say that when you look at this you got caught with a gun or yes
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or no is that your gun yes or no that ain't got to do with Tom Dick or Harry
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what happened you understand what my point if I get caught with mine that's mine I got I ain't got to do I got to go in front of the judge and I got to tell
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the judge this this my how I'm approve is not mine I ain't put nobody name in that that's that got you all right so now you look at the situation right this
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is where I I've been sitting back paying attention I haven't sat down and went talked to no district attorney haven't
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talked to the precin I'm from the streets I did all my conversations I need to have in the streets I understand
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where this is at and you said that on doggy diamonds too it's a fact right I Ain't Got You know what I'm saying like said I wasn't about wasn't erratic in
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thought no you know what I mean you know everything everything is understood right things have to happen with the way
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they happen so you know that happened so when I look at it from a understanding the system right from the 94 was the
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first time I was incarcerated 16 between 94 and 2008 I did about 12 13 years in
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installments play lot of attention to law I know the system so when I look at
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it from my perspective and being in out of that system I say okay the the
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homicide is a is a state case right
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so the state has to figure out how that's going to happen versus the feds who the gun is only a federal case
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that's where it got confusing to me we cuz when we addressed this that was my question we talked about this way before
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any of this [ __ ] [ __ ] we was like the state it's confus the state in the FED law right so he's it's only only reason
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he's in the FED because once you in federal law once you a felon and you possess a weapon that's automatically federal case and they not going to take
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unless they feel I got you on that federal case right so now here's the position is this your or not because this is the
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murder weapon so do you take it or you don't take it you take it all that's your
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weapon somebody you're accountable for that weapon right so do they keep it is the state focused on it or is the Fed
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focused on it that's the position I don't know you just got and when you get caught up in that mix cuz man the New York [ __ ]
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judicial system is serious yeah you know I know homies that that you get you'll get state and federal time right we just
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going to charge you we'll charge you on the Federal for the gun and we get you in the state time and now you got to do
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two different bids my father was in MDC but fighting State charges and at one
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point they was not trying to have the time concurrent because like it just gets real tricky [ __ ] D yeah d uh D just
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did however long the [ __ ] he did with a wild law what was Dion like Pro
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parole and he drove from toaa to Delaware or some [ __ ] right a very short
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drive and in Delaware maybe he got pulled over had a warrant that violated his parole in New Jersey and had to do
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three years now in Delaware yeah so you get caught up in
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the legal system fortunately today we got all these documentaries and [ __ ] that you know kind of teach us how that
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infrastructure was built and we have all these activists you know they trying to shut Rikers down and today we have all
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these tools to get information about jails and legal system I mean I'm actually part of that shut Rikers down that's what I do on a regular I actually
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go on the Rikers about twice a week I me just really I go into the same houses that I used to be in there cutting and
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stuff and just really showing them listen I'm in here right now right I've been through all of this right now this
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is what I'm doing right my organization is focused on that so when they talk about shut down rers the goal is to to
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minimize it from about it's about 9,000 inmates down about 5,000 that's that's
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part of the plan and then build smaller Community jails like people don't even understand the research of Rikers and
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how he led people to slaves and you got to do the research of the whole stories now you know so uh in order to stop
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something you can't just say okay we just going to stop by building jails you got to change the mindset of the individuals that's sitting there like
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they believe in you know on in this whole gun life gang gang gang everybody gang gang gang all day it's corny right
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so little Bros they not they they not telling you a commodity and they're not telling you that your consumer to a
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business right and that's what I had to realize hold up the prison industrial complex needs consumers and I've been a
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consumer for a very long time I think at this point in my life I don't choose to
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do this I'm done okay right so let me come up with a plan of action to make sure that I am getting away from this
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lifestyle M yeah it's a fact you know that's what we got to show them right all this yo I'm being tough and I'm
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shooting and killing we ain't getting nowhere with that bro right and and and you br you br that point to the Forefront you say when you about it you
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don't want to talk about it you don't want to live it you know I want to get away from it you know I'm I'm upset that I had to show that right you know
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understand what I'm saying like and and then I say even though I show that it's sad that that's what people got to see
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there's some that's that's the first impression to a lot of people about me right that's the first time TR gang
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right but then you Google me my work my organization GMAC right gangsters making Community CH Incorporated pull it up on
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the internet you'll see what I do right and I'm affiliated with a lot of elected officials at the point where people what
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are you R are you running for uh no I'm not running for no office I just want to help my hood and take care of my kids my
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people right I don't look to be a politician I don't want to do that so I'm not trying to be this person you want me to be and clean up my ACT I'm
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I'm good with all that right I'm I'm I'm about that right getting to the point of helping us from the inside and that's
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how I do it right yeah try G he blood that's what he come all right so he's reputable he knows what he's talking
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about I'm not the only one like that mm right where they at that's what we got to bring to the Forefront we can't bring
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people to the Forefront that's fronting about this and talking about shoot kill every every day and they not doing that
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well Tri and and see that adds to I have a theory right I feel like I'm I'm I'll
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be 37 in August and I feel like this generation I thought I had I thought I
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thought you was about my you know about 39 in June yeah I'm it's coming it's
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coming 39 listen I'm scared of 39 because well [ __ ] 37 they tell me is
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when [ __ ] are supposed to go get their prostate yeah I'm afraid of that I'm I
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am honestly but it's it's time especially this Charlie Murphy just passing rest in peace it makes you want
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to you know you really got to check on your [ __ ] health and [ __ ] but uh damn my memory is bad oh the theory right so
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I'll be 37 in August and I feel like this generation sometimes lacks information because when I was 13 14 15
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I was hanging out with [ __ ] that were 25 26 23 24 so it was older it was
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always a a funnel of knowledge to be passed and because we're in the air quotes information era but there's so
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much information to consume that people are probably dumber than ever I feel like the 25 year olds today they don't
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really they're not really hanging with older [ __ ] so that information can be passed down so when you speak about old
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OG's you know there being more people like you working from the inside to help the community and doing all this positive [ __ ] but we're not seeing them
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it's important that we start to see them it's important that that information it's important that you sit here it's
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important that that information gets spread like [ __ ] Wildfire because
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these [ __ ] is without it that's not that's not a seller though you know what I'm saying it don't it don't it don't make money it don't it don't push you to
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the system right when you talk about being better for our community they don't want that we know they don't want
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that right but it's about now getting to the Forefront when you talk about these young people what I realize is at 3
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about to be 39 I had those people there for me right even though I've never seen my father the the the big homies the
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OG's n gang affilated just what they are right people think OG is only about a gang it's not right it's what you g to
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the hood you ain't just had to kill somebody to be OG right that a you know what I'm saying don't get it twisted OG don't mean I'm a murderer get out of
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here so anybody can shoot you got Busters shoo schools and that's not that's you know what I mean I'm not we
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not convinced by that show me something else exactly right so I saw that I had
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that leadership I got that right I got morals principles codes ethics things of that nature not just for Mom but when I
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got into the street right so what I realized with our generation is we got
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it and we took it and we kept moving right we we just now we we got it but we working as we working what we did we
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left the media and everything else to rep fake replicate how we moving to push it to the young Brothers right and
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sisters and now we didn't step back say hold up whoa whoa whoa whoa no no no that ain't how it go yeah my bad you
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know what I'm saying and that's and and and those Brothers is sitting in their houses right now taking care of their kids being successful right and doing
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the things necessary because they know y'all can have that if that's how y'all want to be I'm leave it to y'all versus coming to Forefront say hold up I ain't
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never let no little dude move me you what I'm saying first of all we we the
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resources M right for our young brothers and we the resources we got we got the connection we slow it down Hold Up when
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somebody mooving our Hood wrong we got to adjust that when violence happens in our Hood we we got to stop from
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escalating right we got to pull up on them what they get is yo what happened go bro right you know what I'm saying
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versus yo what happened chill mean don't go yeah don't go what was it about M oh
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I know him let me go build with such and such it's minor let's fix that right
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that's what we got to get them to understand and get more Brothers out out sh understand if we if we looking at how
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AR man you know is moving our society and the dire he's moving we killing ourselves they killing us so if if there
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is a war to be fought we ain't got no soldiers cuz we weing in everybody's hands yeah yeah you
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know there was a guy when I was well I I spent unfortunately a [ __ ] this was
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one time I spent like 4 hours in the bullpen down there downtown without you I was mad about it but when I was in
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there there was this older gentleman he was about 55 years old and he was drunk
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but he was screaming in the cells that it's a business and we're consumers and we
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should vote locally because these judges he had got the name of the judge we were
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about to see and he was drunk and he was might have even been homeless but boy did he have all the stats on this
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particular judge and he was in that cell kicking knowledge everybody in there disregarded his ass right right nobody
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wanted to hear any of that [ __ ] but but to that point in Riker's closing is that really going to solve it because of
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course lowering the number of inmates is a step in the right direction but just breaking it off into all five burrows is
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that solving it cuz it's still the same judicial system and while we do have options of people like trip going
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in there to help the inmates inmates just changing is not going to do anything same it's not the same judicial
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system if there are 4,000 less inmates right but that's not even it's that's not even a pro it's the violence of rikus bro of course it's the it's the
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mentality you can't even go see your family or right CU without without a correction off treating like you like
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inmate you understand what I'm saying it's the it's the the pressure that the the COS who go in there and do time and
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people understand that they're doing time too and they go there trying to conform to the I'm doing time and still
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live outside right and so I'm going to treat this individual who's doing time inside a certain way because he give me
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the aggression because he don't understand that I'm here to do a job right so there's a there a overwhelming level of violence that rers has that
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that's that's why it needs to be shut down but I mean but wait let me get to add to that really quickly let's take it
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off of jail and let's take it to schooling when the class is overcrowded
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it's a concern because you feel like all right you you're not giving the best that you can to the when the class is
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smaller special ed the class is smaller they want more attention 4,000 less
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inmates is a whole lot easier to manage right so when I'm watching the khif
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Browder Doc and that little [ __ ] he he had heart he had heart hell yeah and I
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watched uh the [ __ ] COs in there be out numbered so you can't break it up cuz
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they got families to go home to when you take four th000 of them [ __ ] out the equation it's not the same jail it's
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it's a totally different variable now but you got to also put the energy different for the families to bring
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family back is a travel is a trip right the business of give example Rikers is a
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business where people don't pay attention to how they raping the families so when you go to Rikers
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there's a bridge right everybody know that rage Bridge it said it's the longest bridge in the world you get over there very quick but it take forever to
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get back over right right so you can't drive over that bridge if you going to
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visit your family you got to park on the outside then there the bus right there that takes you right over right okay and
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then once you get off of the island you got to get back on that bus and it takes you back sh twice to your car M you just
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pay two full price fairs depending on how many people's with you if you got
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your kids right how old they are the family to go across that bridge so if I'm coming off that bridge I just came
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from I got to another 275 or more just to get off of the bus on the other side
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of the bridge it's a lot of different things they did another thing where when they had
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stopped giving personal sneakers right they said what you could do is you can get pumers so they had a contract with
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pummer right stop all other sers because they some Warden on the island made a contract with Puma to bring that in
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exclusively you understand what I'm saying there there's ways of business that they continue to push in so that reminds me of two things trife
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one I watched this little kid informational show called Adam ruins everything and he just gives information
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um and he was doing an episode and he was teaching us about
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eyeglasses and the episode was about how the people who own the biggest framing
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frame glass frame company the people who make the L lens the solution how all of
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that [ __ ] is connected and it's just a one big Monopoly so you're paying the same person right so I understand what
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you're saying there and two it reminds me of more we was in the [ __ ] Bullpen and they gave us that [ __ ] what they
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the budget cutbacks they took the jelly off they cut jelly off the [ __ ] they cut jelly off of the [ __ ] sandwich in
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the in the joint it's just peanut butter that was the craziest [ __ ] I know that's a very small point to this very
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important conversation but I was taking a back as somebody who's not familiar with the ongoings in jail
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anytime I'm ever in jail let me be clear I try to bail out ASAP I try to never
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hit pop never especially Kerney over here because if you famous and you go to
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General pop over there they pricking [ __ ] with AIDS and all types of wild [ __ ] in Jersey so why would you ever
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want to be there ever I mean we don't want why would anybody want to be there we got to get away from that man want
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that prison system that's my point that's my [ __ ] point to Surf that's my [ __ ] point to Surf that's my point
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to surf like sometimes sometimes jail well God will sit you down God when you won't go
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sit yourself down God will sit you down and get your body whatever it needs so I
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believe that I believe that jail has probably been a huge part of why my father is still in my life cuz they went
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and sat his ass down for a little bit when he was acting stupid uh and my good friend surf I believe that God has went
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and sat his ass down for a little bit cuz he's out there acting stupid and that's if you're lucky right let me be
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clear if you're lucky you will get to sit down and be and be in a reflective
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and get another shot it's not it's not it's not like that for no more you know when I say I did uh about 13
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installments right back and forth back and forth that that was then they they changing these laws now so they they
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bust them in the head they they adding all type of enhancements to their crimes and they don't understand that they understand what a gang enhancement is
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they don't understand you know just by talking about a crime is a conspiracy
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right so these young brothers getting caught up in situations don't understand what they're part of I ain't got to commit the crime for it to be a
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conspiracy just talking about little bro you putting yourself in a situation with people who are also working as agents
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right so it's a lot that they are not understand about the life that they want to be in right we got to educate them on
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that you know how do you how do you not look at the fact that when I was up State I saw that and I didn't catch until it took my second bit up north
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like oh I'm bugging right up north where they got prison industrial businesses where you
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making the clothes you making those same glasses bro right 14 cents an hour so I
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tell BR if you if you sitting in jail and you just did 10 years and you made 14 or 8 cents an hour you can't come
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home and work right and find something minimum wage just to start right because
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we got to fall back to playing catch up in our community we seeing everybody else thriving when you get that position
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you got to slow down that's what we trying to also get you get the brothers that's up there when they come home to get back to the right mindset there's
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Brothers up there who understand the system and want a new chance right so we got to start preparing something for
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them cuz that's where a lot of them are at as well right so we also talk about that that's to the point earlier right
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where they at know some them got hit with a whole bunch of time because they had leadership qualities right and
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railroad gave them you know what I'm saying and they sitting up there like yo I get a lot of K from tell yo bro keep
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doing what you doing right keep pushing like yo we coming out to do what you doing right the real homies that's up top right and that's the energy right
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because our our communities need something totally different it's time for a shift right the shift is all right
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you negative that's not that's not popular you positive oh that's what we with right you bring the popularity to
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that right that's what's cool now run around here killing each that's not cool y can have that that system going to
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wait for those who we're not going to stop it right we not Mur and that's not going to stop yeah we want to minimize
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right and give a different energy to our put them young people towards toward something that has a talent that they
- 38:31
can have a career teach them the computers we got to bring them something serious and tangible right if you all
- 38:37
you showing them is music all you showing them is drugs all you showing them is basketball they going and and they don't get that first shot they
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going to go right to that street and start letting off that first shot and and whenever yall ready to have a real
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serious conversation in music and basketball and I mean music and sports
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we at the low level there too M they won't let us up that [ __ ] ladder either but I know that's a conversation
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too heavy to have now so we'll save that for later to touch on to touch on uh go back on what Tri was just saying now
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with all due respect I do understand your stance with tax and certain feelings and emotions right
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but tax is somebody that I've I've met we've all met and we've had you know run-ins and conversations right when you
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look at the totality of what tax did he was able to create a platform for itself
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he was able to put himself in a different space right he was able to gain attention and notoriety for
- 39:31
something that he probably never thought about this is something that probably just fell in his lap but it was it it
- 39:37
allotted him things in his life he was able to meet certain individuals that he probably would never be in a room with I
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agree he had some great interviews with you know famous celebrity people I agree we need to find where it went
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where we he didn't figure out I got to totally remove myself from negative
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see cuz I think that's a problem that we don't answer that for you that was that was his that was his claim to fame what
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do you mean you know the the the bully to talk about somebody that's that's
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what some people do right you know with all with all respect and Shout to 50
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right people try to replicate that right how he came out and lot of right right
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and some people take that into different plateaus different platforms and utilize it different ways right that thing I I I
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watched and I go back to when I first had those conversations with with AB
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about that right when it all started and I said okay y bro I said it before and
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doggy di stop entertaining that homie right we can't entertain anything that's
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that's being said about us Joe you understand what I'm saying right we got to sometimes all right definitely cuz
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I'm still doing what I'm doing I'm going to be all right exactly right so keep doing what you doing because talk is
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nothing like Alters nothing right you know what I'm saying action Alters everything right but be respectful move
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and move with resolve but meet oppression with aggression right it's
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plain and simple so I watched it and I watched different you know Twitter text
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right I said okay this is not this is not good this is not going good right and and then I'm going to say something
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about that but as I'm watching it when I say this not going good bring me back to that I said this is not going good had a
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conversation with my brother I had a conversation I had a conversation with all BB about that I mean boy doing too
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much first of all the situation wasn't his from from the get-go right that was the conversation
- 41:42
between a whole another party understand that your man we always talk about how we respond to our mans right and that
- 41:49
brings up with all shout out my brother M saw right we going touch on that people got a lot of comment to say about
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that so I don't want to miss that point certain points that we could touch on that wasn't touched on that people was
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still inquiring about M right and why for example why might spoke but reality of the situation people need
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real reality of how this got here right I don't know I've never seen tax a day
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in my life in person nowhere I've never saw him a day in his life until that
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day really he he don't know that dude bro mm
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he don't know that dude I don't have sat down he don't know that dude that's why I speak he don't know that dude because
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from the outside it would appear all just Brooklyn cuz I don't know I don't
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and that's the thing it is and that's that's where the the pain of it all because there's a lot of people that's really into twined in the situation
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that's in Brooklyn in Brooklyn yeah you know what I'm saying all due respect to everybody it's a lot of individuals that
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understand that's affiliate with this person that person CU we in Brooklyn right it's it's a big place but it's a small place if you in streets yeah
- 42:57
so we understand you stepped in and felt like you wanted to okay you ain't like
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what happened over that song right all about the money the that's the C and
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what is the gentleman's um name Mano Manolo tax and Manolo that's his man are
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cool correct so now shout out because my my man my man be moving with Manolo right that's my man that's the homie
- 43:22
that's the hunter right so with all due respect homie try to sit down with me and have a little with that situation
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right because my bro how move accordingly you know know there was a situation with him and bro where they
- 43:35
got into it broke my broke Bank on him and a situation happened he was he was
- 43:41
by himself over that whole situation it popped off couple of them tried to jump
- 43:47
on him he he was still holding and he got it in and then when they got crazy
- 43:53
he like all right stop playing back that thing up right mhm real that's how you know what I'm saying
- 43:59
yeah understand my point so you said all right I'm going to interwine myself in
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this cuz my man and him ain't moving over this money situation over this music right so I'mma keep now I'mma
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bully him you got to be real about I'm why homie why do you keep everything is
- 44:17
it becomes an obsession homie right I'm watching you you con got something to say like this is timeline stuff you I
- 44:23
used to sit there and just watch before bang got killed just watch and say okay that's my job right to pay attention so
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as I'm watching I'm saying all right damn some always got something to say about boy right all right that ain't
- 44:37
your song why you going why you going harder than him all right it continues
- 44:44
so now you have to think about the position of a as well right bad God not
- 44:50
how people feel about him we we have to put put everybody in the position that they going understand why that happened
- 44:56
right I just told you he don't know him right you getting involved in this situation you
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constantly antagonizing me right what happens the first time I see you I'm
- 45:07
going to respond accordingly right okay regardless what people say it's not
- 45:13
facts is facts that's all on camera now I mean this is public information you can't argue this anymore if it ain't out
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yet it's going to come out but wait go [Music]
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ahead because he had an option to and I want to be fair here he had an option to
- 45:29
what when you see money you can either a handle it correct or B not correct
- 45:39
that is still an option yes it is we always have to take the best option that we choose for ourselves at that
- 45:46
moment right so where was he mentally at that moment when he saw him and said hey
- 45:55
I'm just going to have this fight probably not in the greatest of spaces right okay but I'm going to have this
- 46:00
spite because now I finally saw you I'm in that mode where you saw me all like I
- 46:05
was there right okay and I'm just thinking this is what's going to happen right we inside an enclosed building
- 46:11
nobody's anticipating a weapon M right maybe I'm just I'm just man see that's see to me not to cut you off mistake
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number one anticipation of the weapon of no weapon in Irving Plaza right at a tii
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concert with mayo and uncle murder and Troy a and this is not to knock any of
- 46:31
these gentlemen right however I would think when again I probably have a little more wethal than the average
- 46:37
consumer I'm not going to that building thinking that ain't a weapon in there
- 46:43
and that speaks to a lot of negligence that speaks to Irving Plaza's negligence do we think that TI invited
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all of these people here so I spoke because you spoke about that so when I speak about it I speak about it from my
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position where I'm at you know I move accordingly I pay
- 47:02
attention to detail all right you're having this event this this concert of
- 47:07
this sort you know who you pulling out you know every [ __ ] got negative energies people got issues right I feel
- 47:15
first if you you protecting yourself first right let make sure everything is secure here got to get back to my family
- 47:21
is the artist this is my now I got to make sure that my fans and everybody come in this building is protected M
- 47:27
right so make sure every Avenue is covered right you pulled all those energies in there you don't know you
- 47:34
don't know what was going on with son you ain't know that that he was going to pull up he a know you understand my point right so it's about having like we
- 47:41
focus on having people maybe he didn't but then that means your team is slipping right if it's not your job it's
- 47:48
it's your team job to know what we going into who in the building tonight right before we pull up what's going on who I
- 47:55
done when when when a did SU Jam that was the first time I saw T I saw T I personally met the brother more than one
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time being with AB right and I saw the energy with bro right so he know a
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person he know a come with a different type of energy all right so now when you pulled him up you should understand the
- 48:15
energy that's coming around him you understand my point a didn't come there with just intention of popping up at a
- 48:20
concert and enjoying the concert he was coming in in respect to to um ti so I yo bro I'm if you my homie you
- 48:27
pulling up and you come to Brooklyn right I'm going to tell your good what's good out we over here right anything I
- 48:34
need to know you know what I mean a you know I mean any negative energies we need to be on point anybody need to look
- 48:39
out for again Tri that's why this is disturbing because all right let's say nobody does their due diligence right I
- 48:46
pay attention to details well right so I know that Troy AV is affiliated with ti they've done records right right I know
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that Mayo is affiliated with ti right I know that I just know I just
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know like you could see so maybe TI is not in tune with New York and I would
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like to think that he does know see and let me make a larger Point too cuz that's real important that that you said
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that New York don't really have the you know when SLA house went to [ __ ]
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Houston to shoot a video uh and they was shooting on the F you got to check with the hood you just got to that's
- 49:23
important that was very important that you said that you have to do a check back in the [ __ ] Hood it's just codes
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so I say that to say who is that for New
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York cuz as a rapper Tri no comment as a r of course no comment but as a rapper
- 49:43
and what I mean see I don't mean who is that for New York no comment we know no
- 49:49
comment right publicly the probably the only person that we have to G check some
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[ __ ] that goes wrong in New York is Mayo it's the guy it's the bro I mean you know you know that's that's his Mayo
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that's Mayo part of what he do I call Mayo right and I'm like yo how Wild is
- 50:05
it to me that you're the voice of reason for me in New York hip hop cuz I know
- 50:11
you I know where where you're willing to go so that's crazy that that's that's
- 50:17
wild to me that's just wild that was the end of my point there he in tune with the homies he in tune with the Bros you
- 50:22
know you know there a lot of good Brothers out you know in the streets that is in tune to know like for example my boy um prime prime be you
- 50:29
know he be on you know Hot 97 with flex and Joe Jackson and Prime you know in
- 50:35
tuned right he's in that Loop M right these are the people you're supposed to know cuz he know what's going on right
- 50:42
so when you talk to those individuals you don't understand how to pull them to the side and say yo bro what's an energy
- 50:48
right identify those people cuz those people could tell you how to move and how not to move and that's what we want to get in the in the business now when
- 50:55
you come into this City holler right like we need to
- 51:01
understand where you at right and at the same time we about Community you ain't going to just be talking oh shoot them up kill them up and you not giving back
- 51:07
to the city as well right I I got to go back to the fact that I do nonprofit work and it's hard to provide for a
- 51:14
community doing nonprofit work everybody ain't throwing money to us to say yo save our kids right you throwing you
- 51:19
throwing money everywhere else right and we focus on gun violence on different levels so if you come to our city and
- 51:25
you promoting a certain reach out to the individual who know how to move we got a team of individual that
- 51:30
do violence eruption in our communities BR job is to mediate conflicts right so
- 51:35
if something happened and I'm I'm I have a staff right that pay taxes but what
- 51:42
they job is to be right on the Block canvas the community talk to the shooters if something pop up your anything good this is real work that's
- 51:50
amazing it's real work amazing fact you know what I'm saying and it's other organization that do it but that's what
- 51:56
I'm talking about about saying all right if you got a cop who stands on that corner right they have operation impact
- 52:02
where they just stand on the corner and get paid and talk to each other that's not preventing crime I'm go to the next
- 52:07
corner and let those shots off exactly exactly right right yeah and then you going you're just going to make the
- 52:13
arrest with all due respect n ypd do a great job right I ain't got no be you
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know except injustices right but now taking somebody who I say listen I come
- 52:23
from this I understand this I know you going to understand me I'm not about to take
- 52:28
what you tell me to the police I'm just going to take it to the next person to mediate something yes right so now what
- 52:33
I'm going to do is I'm going to employ you to do that right so your job your paycheck fact your paycheck is to be on
- 52:41
the in the community yo everything good right every day that's what you do I got Outreach workers their job is to find
- 52:48
those Harvest individuals and and create a risk Reduction Program for them right how could I help you get away from that
- 52:54
right what services I need to provide for you for mental health job training whatever that's needed right so I can't
- 53:00
tell you just put the gun down I'm going to give you something so my hour workers job is to focus on that you you see what
- 53:06
I'm talking about this is how we getting back to doing this this is real Forward Thinking stuff Tri see this is the [ __ ]
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that needs to be at the Forefront this is incredible and it's and it's and it's and it's unfortunate that it took for a
- 53:18
tragic situation to happen for us to find all of this out I would have never probably found any of this out had that
- 53:25
tragic situation not and that's the problem why does it take something like that to happen cuz bang is a hero bro
- 53:30
he's an angel and I got and I got and I got to go with that you know what I'm saying I
- 53:35
got you know what I mean like I'm good I got to go with that that's my angel he's here he's going to bring something bigger out of this whole subject right
- 53:42
out of this whole situation powerful right when people start to understand it right and I'm and since I said that I'm
- 53:47
going say this there's a lot happening because of the music that AB just pushed
- 53:52
out right and a lot of people were feeding into it right
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don't right don't I'm talking to whoever I ain't listen my my my my my personal
- 54:05
issue if I have a problem with anybody it's tax that's it right nobody else
- 54:12
it's just that getting to the point of understanding right where everybody was and what was being done and how people
- 54:18
misunderstood things right and being able to say first of all don't do it that way right understand the pain of
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everybody else right so we got to get that to the Forefront bang BR that to the Forefront by us seeing him go to the
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heavens all it's still causing right this is a story that the world pretty much know about right now right yeah so
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everybody now that's contining even you right by hearing your name it's like okay hold up what you right die right
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that's that's part of it that's that's the feeling of the same negative energy they need that right listen bro go ahead
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don't let that happen right everybody else you talking about you want to do better I talk about all the individual the key individuals involved that's free
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don't feed into it right if you successful you moving towards progress the only people that's going to die is the people that are the major Catalyst
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of the violence is us I don't want that to happen on bro you understand what I'm
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saying right if it's NE if it's necessary it's necessary not because we feel oh we got to we got to feed into
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the negativity yes right there's nothing tangible right the only person that died was my brother
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so far right so if I'm okay with moving on everybody else need to be okay with moving on you see what I'm saying right
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cuz ain't ain't another death come yet right so if I'm saying hey I ain't back
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in the days I was a everybody accountable oh right so now
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it's like hold up we can't do that everything that happens can't everybody can't be held accountable for it right
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understand the facts of I understood the facts of it before I even spoke on it right so now I understand the fact I can
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speak on it how you feel about it I'm good with how I'm moving every day right but I want to do that cuz I understand
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my voice as well right and I know there's a lot of people that heard me speaking they like oh n don't do that I
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got to put that out there you understand my point like I'm good I don't need nobody to respond for me you know my my
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energy ain't just I hate ABN that's that was that's my little brother he was my like come on be I have to be real about
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that I wasn't fake moving around with him right you if you listen to his song Whatever the only part that I I noticed
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was I was he said I was acting like a brother right M that's genuine there
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right like so cuz I gave you that brother right so now it's like you cuz you said too much don't do that right
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you know where I'm at you have a conversation with me right you you give a you give you give you give something
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you give something back you said that yourself yes right see what I'm saying so at the end of the day everybody's
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waiting for that negative energy to continue right so the person that feeds into it is going to be the person that's
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going to lose I'm not feeding into it I'm good let's talk about how we helping our Hood right now right you have a you
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have a platform Joe and I came here out of respect for that platform because you got a good voice right and bringing it
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to the Forefront being able to speak about any topic is important to our community not being afraid to voice it a
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lot of people feel oh oh you shouldn't have said that right listen I'm not a politician right I'm a human right that
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means politicians is not humans that's my joke right they some of them just don't care right they just do right they just do
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whatever really right did you make that choice as a human or as a politici right
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so for me and I'm getting high I might take my sweater off my shirt you know I ain't trying to flex nobody nothing
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that's where I'm at bro like I need to you know I felt that was there now this is here right this is my second you know
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I'm cool I'm calm I'm Collective and I want us to have a better understanding of this whole situation cuz it's not
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over and we and we're going to get to a certain point of is there going to be a a murder arrest or not right how are
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people going to take to that right in the meantime how much are we going to continue to talk about this subject how
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much is going to stay in front of us is every time somebody tweets or drops a song or we going to have a major
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conversation about this subject right I'm with you broke ahead no I mean I
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think that's a good point cuz people are looking to you into Troy unfortunately
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and platforms like this of course people could tweet all day put up a million things let me analyze this video I see
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that person here but what you're saying is the solution we could analyze a TMZ
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video for 2 hours mhm that's not changing what happened in that room mhm
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this type of talk is changing what happened in that room for the better from a terrible situation absolutely
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well you you leading by example I I mean the words like I started this with and
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I'll end with this as well the words bounced off the screen I think just listening and
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watching and being in tune your message resonates it resonates I think that a
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lot of the stuff that you spoke about today was very Innovative Forward
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Thinking type of [ __ ] and it's [ __ ] that would solve a lot of [ __ ] like hip-hop
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police and all types of other mediums and and and people that they put to air
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quotes police us and police the hood and police all types of other [ __ ] so I want
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you to know that you always have this platform always have this platform to come and discuss all of that Forward
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Thinking [ __ ] definitely real quick uh before we wrap this up uh touch on M son's uh stance on everything cuz he had
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a lot to say and definitely so mice right so I knew Mike from rapping that's
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you know when we know Mike situation I didn't know him before that he has a a good relationship with my brother Josh J
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M and when I came home I came home 20 8
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and I went right into the work right doing what I do and that's what I've been doing full time so my focus is
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community and in doing something you you come in contact with people that's doing the same things right right and I and I
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you know I I used to do marches rallies right Google it people would see oh I didn't know he was doing this yeah I was
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doing this before you saw negative about me right on this video so I'm constantly you know I
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already know yo what's up M we building we we did marches together bro putting his community work in before he put his
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music in he fighting for civil right when we talking about it right so now he got a a different level respect for me
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before music so we we have a different relationship now we building right so you know I've called him on numerous
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occasions about this him and you know there's certain other that you reach out to that you build with that give you that resolve right so now when that
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other joint came out I called them too yo bro oh what you saw right we all got
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mans that it's going to respond certain way and it's the same right and that's that's what happens right it's a a lot
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of other people that said nah you know I mean that had some n you know we going so you got to respect that right if I'm
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telling my bro your son I'm not with it right we know how we moving out so you got to you don't know who you dealing
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with every day when you come across somebody feel you want to disrespect them right you don't know who understand
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and that's the message I always give right because if you see me when you know I got my suit on I'm not not
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walking down the street yo I'm walking down the street how you doing I tell people how you doing looking like I'm crazy me too right me too I just said hi
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you understand I I would trying to talk to you or nothing you know I'm say how you doing today right I say good day I
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don't say good morning cuz I feel morning is a play on words r n iing I'm not you know it's not a good morning
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it's a good day right so that energy is where I'm at you feel me m so just just
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just helping to to come to resolve with this is what I want for everybody I I understand where people
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and if I'm still showing that negative energy people going to feel they need to support me in that I don't want you to
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support me in negative I want you to support me in positive I thought mice did a good job of that yeah he did mice
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like I said about Mayo mice is becoming that as well and I like it do what that
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voice just a voice of reason and maturity and hey I've I've been here
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this is not what y'all wantan to do this is not how you want to live the message comes the same way in different in
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different forms right I'm not an artist He Is We preaching the same message you see ganger but I'm woke as [ __ ] excuse
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me Mom you hear this right but you understand my point so when we say gangster I'm not perpetrating I'm not
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saying yo respect me I'm saying there a lifestyle that come with that's an addiction it's a you know what I'm
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saying you talking about cars money clothes jewelry all that stuff is the lifestyle just not about gangs it's about an addiction to what comes with
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that the reputation and the respect that people are gravitating towards right but that goes back to you sing young people
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that don't understand those things so so you you understand my point so he brings that as well as I bring that his others
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is bringing in a different form right speak of it when you look at M M was on
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the uh the Million Man March anniversary right putting a community work in so ain't nobody could tell me nothing about
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that that's what I respect like that's who I move I move individuals you know that is doing that I got Brothers in
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Brook and at Mitchell who doing this work you got Erica Ford and life Camp be Queens doing this work you know I got
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like to make a m sister on the front lines these are these are these are the people right coun J William these are the people who I affiliate with him when
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they saw me like that like yo bro are you okay right people get afraid that I'm no I'm okay right that's a I let let
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load of that out we good long as we are respectable right and that's for everybody right so we don't want to
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single individual we want to talk about all of our accountability we look at a situation
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and we say hey do I have accountability in that situation and am I accepting
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it powerful I respect it man I I just want to say thank you for coming on man and
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uh shouts out to my man Mari and uh for just linking us man and you know I think everything you said today you know is
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going to resonate and you you said a lot of things that I wasn't expecting you to say like I said I saw the interview with
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you on doggy diamonds and I got a lot from that but even today a lot of things that you're still saying to me is just
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so powerful man like you know and I I got to commend you for just being in the in the head space that you're in after
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losing a brother and uh you know again condolences to the family but is there anything else like I said how could the
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people get in touch with you and your organization I mean I'm I'm on I'm not I never really really been a social media
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person except to just be like this watching things going on but um you know I'm on Instagram Tri T RF eore g n gsta
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that's also the same snap I have I'm on Facebook my government Shan Duke mcfa you know I don't have nothing to hide I
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want people see that part right what is he doing in the community uh and then uh most importantly throughout this time we
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haven't had an opportunity to honor and respect my brother right so uh we
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normally do annual fundraiser and this year we going we circula oh I actually got the joint up right there right I'm
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reading Gangsta G gang G second annual gangster Galla May 24th that's what I
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was looking for the DAT May 24th 201 Castle in Long Island go go Google that
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look at that place right it's about you know it's you know suit and tie your best at Tire you know a little better
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than what I got on the DAT type of stuff than yeah you know because we want to we want
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to we want to show people the work that we doing right at the same time honor and bro right we we we give recognitions
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to some people in the community that's doing work right and show a highlight in that right we ain't got to wait for no
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no no awards for nobody else we got to show the people in our community that's really doing something part of what we
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doing and then you know giving that honor to the work that my brother was doing people understand that he had a mindset of the work from the inside of
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the hip-hop you understand what I'm saying being in the music to mediate things to a certain level with he put
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his life on the front line for that that was you know what I'm saying that's what he cared about protection so we didn't
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get a chance to do that so on that day we going to sit down relax you know honor him May 24th is a year before the
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day you know he got he died May 25th right so you know I I was dealing with
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that my you know just sitting back and say we got a year coming I a want to go through all this I just want to you know
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get to that point and let people know we going to be all right right it's you know we going we going to have struggles
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it's going to happen we going to take some losses but when you see a loss you even going to take that and move in the
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right direction and start the gain from that loss in the right way not exploit a loss right or we GNA continue to take
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these same losses that we aware of right we we see this replicating the same
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thing and that's why I said anybody that's that's paying attention right and see the energy that came from the songs
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that have pushed out and feed you see the feed we know how to feed is right
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right right we got to get people to say n yo some pay that no attention you know mean that's what I'm
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saying that that's why I I won't respond to it yeah you give you give you gave what you gave them but like you said I
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ain't got to say nothing else I caught you move on right and I learned that
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this helped me right so I said if I responded to everything that I saw
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through the whole time of this situation I probably be definitely beefing with the world right people that just
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standing behind a computer and and trying to push buttons to push a button m nah that that don't move me yeah
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people that get off on [ __ ] like that yeah you know what moves me is Happy Happy Kids smiling kids right it's about
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them it's not about us anymore and if you're Entertainer you doing this music
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if you perpetrating something that's not you at least get back to that type of community you understand my point right
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understand that there's people out there who are living that and they need that help so if you if you coming from that you not coming from that but you acting
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like that's your life show respect to that the laws of attraction people what
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you put out will come back that's a fact yeah don't have to be authentic it will
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come back uh again I can't thank you enough one cuz I know our studio is far
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[ __ ] Jersey I come to Jersey I got the homies in Jersey shout out to all the hers in Jersey all every people don't
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understand that about me right they said I thought you was listen stop leave me
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alone you know what I'm saying right my brothers and my sisters out there they
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understand how I'm moving right it's about brother love or and oppression and destruction I'm against oppression in any form right and I'm about elevating
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us right I'm a shine you know I'm a soier honor in that work to Elevation you understand what I'm saying you know
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that's what I am right so every time I come across an individual how can I help you elevate what can I do to help you
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but I I changed lives what's your son I'm a Gemini you you see ah see what I'm
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trying right oh man I'm getting the [ __ ] out of here wait a minute thing is a
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gym man makes all the sense in the world man that he's trying to tell y'all
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something two sides two sides good you know I put yo leave that
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I been let that man you know what I'm saying let him that's hard yeah you know so that's the strength that I got you
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know what I mean you know when people think I'm hurting a lot of people I seen the pain in your eyes yeah I got pain in my eyes but I'm I'm I'm going make it
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because there's a bigger picture out there and I want us all to come I want this to come to Seas you know what I mean everybody that's upset about it you
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know I'm and my family my mother my sisters my brother we and my f my you
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know we going to say the cousins too of course all our family members that dealing with that have respect for them and understand that they took that loss
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right and this is the situation that's going to what's the word perpetuate a
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further situation we don't want that to happen you know what I'm saying put the egos down Pride to the side Pride to the
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side check it at the door you forward positively let's get to this money I'm
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from Brooklyn Brooklyn got a lot of strong hitters coming out of there doing this music yes that's true New York is
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focused on coming together can this be what does it I'm with it me too TR thank you definitely
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YouTu Rory thank thank you two [ __ ] too this was good this was good we lit
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rest in peace Banger rest in peace Bang