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come in with the new Nikes with the zip

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in line for I thought Maul was going to

be wearing the zip TI

zip around his wrist see Mo say

uh oh this going to be good y'all are

great hey uh welcome to the Joe Button

podcast episode 138 I'm your host Joe

Button uh also in the room is Rory Maul

parks saon and new Chris Brown uh uh

Round of Applause for all of these

beautiful people to join us uh episode

138 boy y'all let us have it last

week boy you [ __ ] love your free [ __ ]

I'm about to call the cops I got mad

threats God forbid a [ __ ] needed just a

break I felt unsafe yeah what the [ __ ]

is wrong with you people on a holiday

you

ingrat but but I ain't going to lie

flatter and felt mad appreciate

appreciative of it and I some [ __ ] was

talking to me way too disrespectful

I ain't like that no think you soft yeah

okay oh

[ __ ] me okay [ __ ] you going to make it

all right all right my I'm just saying

some [ __ ] was definitely really mad

about the episode not coming out Jo

going have to hold that

smack what smack for the fans from Mo oh

yeah yeah it's a Joe Buton podcast you

got to wear it I would have to wear that

that's true um so yeah we missed y'all

too uh a lot to cover um oh wait but new

Chris Brown

uh yes new Chris Brown is here and we're

not being funny to Chris Brown his this

gentleman's name really is Chris Brown

uh so new new Chris Brown is our new

videographer hey new Chris

Brown you're one of those you can always

you can tell a lot about a nigga's first

words on the microphone

you okay where your face from Queens

Queens ah Queen a lot of Queens in here

yeah a lot of Queens in here all right

that's fine uh so yeah so let's get

right to the shits I'm throwing it right

to Maul uh let me be clear that I have

not spoken to Maul or Rory for since the

last time heard us was lovely yeah it

was such a good break i' I've enjoyed it

too I have um our senior Harlem

corresponded well wait before we get

into that Thanksgiving oh yeah yeah want

to do that yeah let's talk about

Thanksgiving it was cool how was they

what was

cool mine was just cool too like it was

just like a day it really lowkey uh

Thanksgiving for me yeah I don't know

what it was Thanksgiving is not I I

don't really celebrate Thanksgiving oh

you one of those I don't I was never

really I don't really eat you I mean

it's always one [ __ ] want to throw out

his unique character n i don't get

hungry n this this Thanksgiving is like

I don't know it's just I don't you're

got cooler than yo the fans are on to

your little cool Schmick where you just

do [ __ ] cool you're not cool cuz you

don't eat Thanksgiving [ __ ] no I eat but

I'm just saying I don't I don't praise

it as Thanksgiving

though what you call thankful for [ __ ]

all right you baited Us in I'm thankful

every day what do you call it I don't

call it

anything well what let's get to the

punchline [ __ ] there is no punchline I

just don't it's Thanksgiving I just

don't celebrate Thanksgiving well what

what do you celebrate life more of it

yeah sh over you do you say about

Christmas what is your religious B yo do

we know enough about Mall honestly I

don't believe in religion what about New

Year's do you believe we all came from

somewhere yeah well where is that

somewhere all right all right no you

ain't getting me with this [ __ ] more all

for you all right how was Parks how was

your Thanksgiving good you know we ate

white white people

food damn very little seasoning on the

turkey see this is the first year that I

guess Thanksgiving was over it's over

it's over for Thanksgiving I went to my

dad's

house uh and I was really I the plan was

to I was not hosting Thanksgiving for

the first time uh like I said both my

parents have had knee replacement

surgeries both my grandparents are dead

and when your grandparents died

Thanksgiving is really kind of just just

dead but so I wasn't hosting this year

so the plan was to go to my dad's house

to get the black people food and then to

go to sin's people house to get the

Spanish food and I think my dad is not

no longer black

honestly I mean he's he's in Kings

Bridge and he's with a a Spanish woman

this [ __ ] just gonna throw my dad's

location out there damn he can't Poor

Dad can't even

run this guy this guy's crazy gang

Central over

there but uh what what am I say I I go

to his

house no time

out rewind I wake up I say to sin who

has never had stuffing in her life

that's kind of wild wait Spanish people

don't eat stuffing I don't know but s is

25 they eat stuffing they call it

Mungo I don't know if that was a joke or

that was a real fact I don't even know

if it was inappropriate allowed to laugh

just sounded funny um she's never had

stuffing so I wake up hype saying yo

wait till you get to my dad's you're

going to love the

stuffing because all black people have

stuffing and this [ __ ] got [ __ ]

carrots and celery stuffed inside the

[ __ ] turkey that's that's disgusting

wait wait wait turkey soup for

Thanksgiving wait y'all laugh had a

salad salad there's a lot to talk about

with this wait don't you got to tell a

[ __ ] beforehand when you're not going

to have stuffing yeah cuz you could

bring the stuffing make your own

stuffing fam that's like an important

part of Thanksgiving whole point of

Thanksgiving [ __ ] the turkey see but you

showing up to his crib if you want to

have stuffing have that [ __ ] invited me

nled to every you need stuffing my G so

wait so you I get there yeah see the

joke is that Joe is grumpy if not a joke

well all right so the worst day to act

like you are not grateful is probably

Thanksgiving boy you had to see me for

about 7 minutes when I was digging

through the turkey through the carrots

and celery looking for the stuffing and

then when I walked back back in the

kitchen I mean now back in the living

room to the whole room of people that

was there including the chef to say yo

is the stuffing in the turkey or is it

separate in like another ban and when

the whole room looked and said nah ain't

no stuffing that's crazy oh I think they

said that was the

stuffing stuff in the I thought I was in

The Matrix wait this is not crazy to

nobody stuff in the turkey was celery

and carrots is hilarious damn I wanted

to turn that whole [ __ ] Thanksgiving

table I'm with you on upside down my

[ __ ] it was no cranberry sauce my dad

sitting here watch watching a game like

you [ __ ] piece of [ __ ] get off the

couch [ __ ] you don't even eat the

cranberry

sauce you just [ __ ] go buy the can and

open it that's all you got to do this

[ __ ] putting no effort into nothing see

but here I am say ungrateful and Dad I

love you so hopefully you don't hear

this his wife be listening

sometimes um but yeah other than that

Thanksgiving was easy breezy went there

wasn't nobody there went to send house

wasn't nobody there ate was in the bed

by [ __ ] 8:00 woke up happy it

was Friday and I had a 3-day weekend so

that was Thanksgiving now I I don't I

think those kind of rules apply for

Christmas too this might be the last

Christmas I told s this her last

Christmas with a baby coming it's over

for holidays this ain't your last

Christmas this is S have a

kid last Christmas getting a Christmas

gift from me with our CH we raising a

raising a

king oh my God what are you want me to

do

man okay I see what you saying it's her

like yeah this is you're not showering

her with GI and her and I are the same I

say to her what you want she say nothing

she say to me what you want I say

nothing but this year like let's not do

that like let's really go all out let's

really go with the nothing this year no

[ __ ] nobody ever really wants nothing for

Christmas some people mean that when

they say it I mean that I don't want

some people mean that when they say I

don't want the guilt of not I don't and

I don't and I don't want to give no I'm

not giving nobody [ __ ] and I don't want

[ __ ] if you're not a kid a child no I

definitely want something for Christmas

though wait what you don't celebrate

Christmas but you want wait what

celebrate it but

yeah all right yo the religion I don't

want to be the only [ __ ] everybody like

yeah got these for Christmas you know

say I got these and I'm sitting there

like by the end of this podcast I'mma

think of the name of the religion I

would think you would follow Scientology

I'm going to create one no no it's one

that is not even heard of yet this [ __ ]

was in LA for a month he definitely

converted to Scientology hell no um what

was you doing in

La um BJ had came back from China for a

week so we hung out yeah [ __ ] always

try to make they [ __ ] time mad

Exquisite we hung out [ __ ] man he

wanted to do Thanksgiving with the with

his family out there so I was like all

right all right kicked the forek yeah

I'm in a real silly mood can I just I

just want to let everybody know that

before this podcast continues okay so

Thanksgiving is out the way Maul we toss

it to our where are you from Maul New

York it's a acceptable answer it was

like the Bronx family from Harlem though

there you go I told y'all did I tell

y'all yeah my family's from Harlem the

Bronx and the Bronx

andl Bronx Harlem is the same the same

thing right all right all right cool I

just want to know that so we toss it to

you our Harlem Bronx Insider senior

Uptown corespond yeah yeah you are the

senior

Uptown 101 will tell us about yeah and

forom for sure for tell us tell us

what's going on man with with this I I

saw y'all talking about it in the chat

when I landed Friday and it was just

like what the [ __ ] is going on oh wait

hold on let me pay some [ __ ]

proper respect right

quick yeah

[ __ ] M why you looking at Mo like he

got

this yo this is the hardest happiest

beat yo this is from the time in where

oh was hey that was a Travis Scott

athlete back in the day yeah it was if

you give a [ __ ] oh oh yeah [ __ ] that

was Amigos s live you had one for sure

got the yeah all right what's going on

man come on let's get to it I think it

was just murder's back yeah murder I

think it was just years of behind the

scenes issues that they were having and

it finally just Ma just decided to

address it [ __ ] behind the scenes it was

pretty in front of the scenes really

no I mean personal [ __ ] not just music

like you know cam put that record out a

couple weeks ago I think and said some

things and I think that's first verse

first song yeah I think that's what

started with mace Ty fash that just you

know pissed mace off and but they've

been having you know like real behind

the scenes issues for years and I think

it was they just addressed it I don't

it's it's it's it's like I I hate to see

it because it's like you know Cam and

mace was a big part of me growing up

like their music so like 20 years later

to see them beefing is like come on man

like we we too old for this cuz I feel

like I'm too old to be beefing on if I

was a rapper I I have one older than me

[ __ ] is I'm talking about they're 40

plus years old beefing so you can't rap

I'm you can rap I'm talking Can't Rap

beef at 40 no you shouldn't be beefing

and and rapping at 40 do you know how

much rap beef and H did in his 40s no he

didn't do any beefing in his

40s he beef with n he was in in his 30s

how old was he when he dissed uh that

basketball player [ __ ] that dissed

LeBron how old was he when he when he

hopped on balling Jim Jones record how

old was he diss you on blueprint 3 come

on mul knock it off he was in his 30s on

blueprint 3 was he yeah it was not yes

she was what year did blueprint 3 come

out 2009 come on okay he was

39 no I'm not rolling what you mean you

not rolling I don't know if I'm rolling

with that how old is ho he'll be 48 yo H

been about to be 48 my

[ __ ] Inc hey what's good my G let Me is

47 according to Google yeah he'll be 48

1969 he was born I could think of more

[ __ ] hold this than his 40s mad [ __ ]

send but sending shots isn't beefing

Birman I mean not Birdman Ross just mad

[ __ ] diss [ __ ] in their 40s more

come on that I'm just I think that

that's Conny I think in your 40s if

you're still making music you should be

Beyond beef yo I got to meet uncool Mall

youth how you 40 plus beefing though I

don't even understand it if I see dudes

in their 40s beefing like and they're

not rappers I think that's corny I think

if you're beefing off record it's corny

at that age I mean I like the beef but I

see what you're saying though something

years old tell me what he's saying then

I mean he would like to see maturity out

of people at a certain point you [ __ ]

kidding me yeah I come on Mo who wants

to see

maturity AG from camon I agree anybody

no but my thing is the they're not even

that active musically so to come back

beefing at 40 something is nuts to me

for mace to come back beefing at 40

something is absolutely crazy to me swag

well he was minding his business no I'm

not saying I'm not saying he's not

defending himself and he was at the

Thanksgiving turkey parade but what I'm

saying is that's how this started for

you to jump back into music and the

first thing you doing is beefing that's

and your 40 something years old is crazy

to me well he that's like getting your

first tattoo at time out I agree I mean

it's getting your first tattoo at 40

something is crazy I feel the same way

about you beefing with rappers at 40

something years old Michael Paul my age

working on his second tattoo and but he

had one already yeah but I'm talking

about see you and you still judging

still judging I'm saying talk about my C

certain things are just crazy to me you

the only one talking about your cousin

well all

right yeah certain things is just crazy

though I don't think they should be beat

so Mo I'm from the outside looking in up

up these blocks can we ad MIT now that

Harlem does not stick together New York

doesn't stick together har specific had

that hashtag you need you need your own

woke show the the wokest [ __ ] about

cool [ __ ] no I'm just saying it's the

truth New York don't stick together why

do you say that well I'm talking about

Harlem though anytime a New York rapper

has a video how many other rappers from

New York do you see in his video is that

what quantifies sticking together I'm

just saying we don't even support each

other yes we do but we don't have a

hashtag that says man I just watched a

boogie and P&B Rock jump some body he's

not from New York wait who's not from

New York p is not from New York oh damn

it what are you talking about thought

you had one there God damn it I thought

I crushed the game with with that one

the P&B I thought y'all arguments was

dead thought P&B was the the buzzer

beater back to the locker room with a l

try it again all right well y'all keep

talking while I think I'm serious though

New York rappers don't stick we too

competitive in New York it's New York is

too small we too everybody I know know

that that existed at one point it still

does that still exist and don't confuse

it with the fake love now because of

social media cuz [ __ ] fake bro each

other all day bro bro bro bro my bro my

bro which is Faker bro or sis ooh that's

a great

question bro is Faker I feel like girls

know they're being SE called they bro

and they knew each other for two weeks I

know girls do that with this people call

each other bro they never met yeah

that's crazy but I think they might be

more shady insist and it's intended

you're supposed to know it's shady I

think I like the Bro shade because it's

covert nah that [ __ ] ain't covert you

know when it's you know when a bro is

fake but I'm saying you could call a

[ __ ]

bro as [ __ ] tone to Sun him or you could

call a [ __ ] bro cuz you're

afraid like you don't know which way bro

goes sis you're kind of going to know

you're going to know how it's being used

you know you know which way bro goes

yeah I don't think you want to say bro

is a a defense mechanism someone's

cominging at your neck you're not going

to Bro him I've seen it no no and then

that's just a n n y'all wrong I don't

know

bro don't bro me my je but no but you my

bro though I I'll Duke you duke is still

in effect with me is it yes Duke and

y'all ain't no confusing Duke Duke is

clear yes uh what was we talking about

all right so [ __ ] what you talking about

ma is rapping [ __ ] he is he and I was I

was very surprised that he still can rap

like Camron was wishing for the gunit

mace he did not get the G mace he got

the pre- bad boy mace I I thought I'm

with Cam I bet cam didn't know that mace

was that mace could still going in that

96 bag the 97 bag he had to do five IG

posts to buy some time yeah yeah yeah

yeah mace is clearly the the better

rapper though I

think I think people would argue that as

far as just raing I think that was

always you know what that's that goes

back to when we talking about the top

MC's and you brought mace up like where

does mace fit and I said mace is

underrated because people don't really

know how nice mace was okay but listen I

had to [ __ ] bum ass a asked me where

I ranked mace and it paused me because

at first I got mace real high

right at second thought mace got a fall

pretty low because he left pretty quick

yeah yeah so definitely the Berry

Sanders so all in this room agree

that lyric wise mace versus cam we all

agree here we just we all agree mace is

different ability wise when he's at his

Peak right but making music cam is a lot

higher on my alltime list cuz he been

around consistent he has the albums

doing so many different things for so

long right so so the slider for ma is up

and lyricism

but [ __ ] you was

popping mace I remember it I think I was

at my the I was at my first baby

mother's

house and flex or somebody was going

[ __ ] on hate me now and as a young

rapper [ __ ] I was glued to the radio

cuz that when puff did that back then

you stopped what you were doing and he

was breaking that record and I think

they stopped to say breaking news ma is

out

deuces so that had to be when did ma

leave early 2000 yeah early 2000s I mean

he really left 9998 I mean hit me now

was 9 how many albums does ma have 2000

I kind of only count Harlem World yeah I

thought he only had like count double up

I stand correct double up double up is

is is an album yeah it is so Ma has two

albums

yes and same [ __ ] on double up is is

is yeah yeah double up was a good I

think same [ __ ] is was Maz telling us

I wait I'm pulling up same how many just

for just I'm just trying to figure

something how many albums does big have

two two

okay I think this

record I should somebody should ask me

was he explaining why he was retiring in

this record I think that was a rumor

back then

real [ __ ] know this record like the

real like real Hip Hop Heads but a lot

of the Casual people miss that second

mace album but this is the best song on

that

album say blame judge my pain you know

it ain't the best in the world that can

Shield my rain you ain't got money for

the gas [ __ ] get out the rain don't

need to play the whole thing but yeah MZ

has two albums uh well welcome back it

was an album in 2004 if we're counting

that I'm not counting that I didn't know

that existed yeah damn y ha I'm not

counting that mace is

underrated okay but if Cam is not on

tour this is way more

competitive I can see that and way more

interesting because cam would be yeah at

the crib yes doing [ __ ] I don't know if

I mean but cam has said so much about

mace over the past 15 years it's like we

kind of know that makes it tough that

makes it difficult yes everything and Ma

has been very quiet about J so like yeah

what what is there new to laugh at some

of the shock value is taken away because

cam has rode that for so long and we

never heard Ma's side of anything so

even if he's lying in the

record he raised some valid [ __ ]

questions no Harlem

man I mean a lot of that [ __ ] was kind

of already known behind the scenes that

[ __ ] was saying but I just I just like

the fact

that like mace addressed it the way he

addressed it cam respond I think cam

will make another record just or do you

think cam don't really give a [ __ ] no

cam gives a [ __ ] cam definitely [ __ ] wow

I'm shocked to hear both of y'all say

that he's been talking about M 15 years

for no no response this stems back to

this stems back to when cam didn't pass

mace the ball in that high school

game I think they kind of had beef ever

since

then and then quietly mace charged him

for that horse and carriage video yeah

like it's been a lot of little you know

what I mean they but they kind of felt

like listen we know each other we

Brothers we grew up together so it's

kind of like we can't really go there

with each other but now I kind of feel

like this is all is that a let me tell

you something man I ain't going to lie

to you if me and you do a a song and we

that close MH and you charge me yeah you

feel I feel away yeah cam was that

relationship is Tainted my [ __ ] yeah

absolutely it will never be quite the

same this is a different era too where

there was budgets and you were I mean

you were paying for it you were so that

should have been understood is what I'm

saying right because if I'm remembering

correctly and this is from a a old cam

interview like way back the plan was for

cam to do the underground [ __ ] and mace

to be the commercial [ __ ] in their

friendship and they would always have

each other to lean on now if I'm wrong

about that please one of you Harlem

people let me know but I'm pretty sure

that's set in stone somewhere so under

that

understanding I mean Cam ain't the only

[ __ ] to say m started acting funny

style and even cam himself in that

Instagram rant has

said uh yo I understand May switching up

uh when you have that much money at that

age it's a lot to deal with so cam

himself has admitted I can understand

you bugging the [ __ ] out and tripping

right I'm torn I don't I don't I don't

really know I enjoy the hip-hop side I

enjoy the hip-hop side of it because

some of the things I never thought we

would see in my lifetime I've seen like

hve and Dame splitting I saw that with

that was like try telling a [ __ ] he

would see that in whatever year uh try

telling a [ __ ] baby and Wayne would be

doing this like I've seen so much

[ __ ] good to see this come to a it's

it's close now MH that this all of these

20 year

beefs if it never if it's never

addressed again I'm happy we've heard

from cam we've heard from mace great

tuck it to the side but yeah you right

it probably is personal when that [ __ ]

ma said ain't no Unity ain't no children

in the corn ain't no famam once you

start bringing out children in the corn

my [ __ ] it's person that's what I'm

saying you start doing that one of the

greatest groups never seen yeah you

talking a different type of language

yeah yeah that's why I said it's very

personal it's been you know behind the

scenes for Years everybody knew what was

going on things that was being said but

I didn't think it would be addressed on

music they dropping real personal name

the [ __ ] that's what I'm saying I didn't

think it would be addressed on music I

thought they would have an interview and

let's get to

that that that one I think definitely

cut deep let let's time out here [ __ ]

[ __ ] how it cut

camp that ain't nothing light to just

throw that ain't that's not a light

accusation that's not a light bar mhm

so especially from a niggaer that used

to claim the church you can't play with

stuff like

that and even if that's true and I don't

know I don't know if I would ever say

that in a rap is that like below the

belt it's a little below that's two

person that's what I'm saying I didn't

that's why I'm saying this is It's corny

to me because it's like and I don't and

again I don't know anything I don't know

[ __ ] but that was Perfections that HUD

was at right when he the night he passed

the night he when he left the strip club

that night um he was coming from

Perfection I just know he was on the GW

it was it was Perfection it wasn't sin

it was Perfections I used to always bump

in the hood and sin but that night I'm

pretty sure was Perfections God forgive

me if I'm wrong that was that era so

yeah but my point is HUD was a strip

club [ __ ] like I was a strip club [ __ ]

that's where we would see that's where I

would see HUD so if HUD was leaving the

strip club and crossing the bridge and

got into this fatal accident God bless

the dead rest in peace HUD

six where's the dummy

Mission why would you say that why would

you say that but that's what I'm saying

defend on B defended on Ebro what some

type of he said something to the fact

that it was like a a metaphorical thing

you blaming me for this it's like me

blaming you for that no no no I'm just

telling you what he that is

unacceptable mace who ended up calling

me Saturday night

and getting the call is funny I ended up

somehow I ended up on calling Joe is

just funny mace called me how did that

conversation

Go I mean it was cool it's all right you

pray nah mace really talks like that

what you me like that he RS but he's not

slow by any means he just talks like

that that's all I really took away from

the conversation other than that he is

pretty he's pretty distant from the

climate

is he making music uh he said he was

okay obviously he is he said on Ebro

that he was uh he writes for a lot of

people that he can't discuss knock it

off knock it off we not even in that

seat that's that shows how out of touch

he would be cuz we not even in the era

no more where you can't discuss it right

we can discuss it

now

uh it if Cam responds again he's

acknowledging a l no I think so if if I

were cam I would just let this die out

which I think he's going to do okay so

what so because my homeboy asked me an

interesting question are we counting

Cam's response as his first record or

the first record he put out that mace

was responding to that verse was uh

that's Cam's first record to me that's

Cam's first record no I think the

mixtape record nah he was telling a

story that was that record is not about

mace he dissed mace in the bar and kept

him moving no he told the whole story

about why he was just saying was shady

but that's not a say I don't think

that's a disc though it was kind of this

he it was part of a story he was telling

in a larger was one small point no mace

was the point of the story when you

exaggerate how soft you think somebody

is that's more the disc the whole now

when you're just telling your side of

the story and it's not favorable story

to bring up like well cam has been Petty

yeah I cam would have Cam is King Petty

but that's why I'm saying how can you I

don't know if you can be I think

everybody knows cam to be king Petty but

I don't know if you can be King Petty

and

Care there's no there's no rules no more

yo you talking like there still rules

out here there's no rules man cam is not

from this don't matter man old school

[ __ ] Now is adjusting to this climate

man there's no more rules he's been like

this before climate yeah this is not him

yeah but it's uh playing the game this

is him there no there's no rules though

there's no rules there's no rules of

music no more there's no rules I I don't

think that cam can should should address

this

anymore there's no rules especially with

[ __ ] mace is on a whole [ __ ] roll

out over this [ __ ] ma trying to break

his third comeback off of uh this [ __ ]

somebody on Twitter said mace ran off on

the lore twice I saw that that was

really funny I wish I could credit

whoever said it but I

didn't all right well there ran off on

the Lord

twice [ __ ] got too much are creative

out here um so uh you want to get into

the want to get into the Grammys all

right so wait just so we're everybody in

the room has mace One cam zero in that

yeah yes well I do I don't in in the in

the Music Exchange

yes but everybody those two records yeah

and who has and y'all have who ranked

where higher on on y'all list cam is

higher I have Cam higher on my list than

I do mace all right me too but I think

that mace is probably a better

technically a better rapper yeah mace is

a better rapper but Lally yeah but if

you if you I mean he might have better

hits like bigger hits than

than cam you could make a case that mace

might have more like bigger hits the

whole the whole Dip set movement is you

know that kind of solidifies

camot I'm I love to and Cam's out

between come home with me and Purple

Haze two amazing Ma's biggest hits are

what feel so good I don't know what are

they More Money More Problems More Money

More Problems not that it was his record

but that wasn't his record been around

the world wasn't his record like some of

them records ain't maces he's got a I

know I know they is I know they is but

you know what I mean and he kind of made

them I mean now he didn't make them but

he was a he kind of made that's not his

record whose record was that no M money

yeah big that was on Big's out

yeah money

yeah is getting his cream [ __ ] always

say what the hell does that mean yo so

Rory was the only niggaer happy that HOV

was doing I love the do at the HOV

concert that's it was it was me dancing

and singing by myself to a quiet Arena

it could have been just me and hve in

the baray together you knew kids shame

shame on all of you new kids that went

to that damn listen a lot of these a lot

of these people run into to the concert

they don't need they don't they only

started following Jay after he married

Beyonce a lot of these people with these

Arenas trust me they should no I I do

trust you because I watched an arena

full of people two nights in a row not I

could hear a pin drop when I love the D

came on yeah what type of where is hip

hop gone a lot of people never heard

that record that's

crazy just being honest that's not a

small it's a big record you know what

I'm saying like it's an incredible

record we were also we were also in

Brooklyn I can see if he was pulling

like a bsides out but that's not a bside

that's on one of the most revered

hip-hop albums of all time it's the next

collab we got from them after Brooklyn's

Finest for that and then if you look at

Jay's concerts now it's a lot of women

that go to these conscious now in hopes

that Beyonce is coming out for 10 minute

set yeah one wasn't wrong you know what

I mean so those type of Records women

don't know I love the D all right I

didn't mean I didn't mean to talk about

the whole concert next but we just here

no it was funny to see cuz like the

second song he did was the evils and it

got real like he did Kill Jay-Z and of

course was first record everyone got up

in the seats then he did the evils and

it like kind of got real low it was just

weird to see the ju of the songs and the

response like he did a lore which got

some some praise but then he did the

dead president's verse over that beat

for the second verse and it got real

quiet like people were very confused

that's not a lot of people don't know

Devils so it's crazy that's crazy but

he's selling out so he selling out the

arena so it was a great he G he G to

sell out yeah that's what I'm saying so

it's like whatever I mean it was cool to

see though with hve how you have to give

Angry Joe here you have to give the kids

credit they kind of forced ho to step up

his arena show with all the different

screens like HOV can't just do the stage

and rap [ __ ] that he used to do he's got

to put a performance I mean I like Kanye

of course has a lot to do with that but

I mean the whole show it was the first

ho show I've been to that was like a

real experience it wasn't just great

records and watching ho perform them

Rory hyped that H was performing over J

Drake beats I was not I didn't even know

he did that he didn't do that last night

wait what what he R over amazing what'

he rap over I he didn't do any any Drake

records last night okay I've seen him do

it I'm not saying so you hyping it I

didn't even know what happened I know

Happ Rory denies so much [ __ ] that he

knows all right I'm I'm hit to his

little [ __ ] dumb plan let go look at

the track list from last he's love

playing dumb [ __ ] the white people man

he loves playing that's what that is

come on go ahead with uh your um

analysis of the show well no I was

saying it was the first hope show that

was like a real type of concert in

experience it wasn't just the stage that

we typically get with hope no no no no

no that's not true that's not true

outside to Watch the Throne no fade the

black was

dope but I mean it was the moment with

all the no but even the stage was okay I

mean I wasn't there you were there yeah

that that was that was dope that was

like the first where Jay was like

changing visually he was paying more

attention to how he his stage presence

was like different screens that was

moving the roots on stage was he just by

himself uh if 444 the whole time on

stage yeah and he was he was in the

middle you know it wasn't like your

typical concert setup it was a circular

stage that went up and down he had I

want to say eight screens that were like

angled that went up and down that did

visuals around it it was a really good

show but it was just him the whole time

whole time just him I ain't going to lie

Mo that was the first time in our

relationship I felt like and Paul's our

relationship but that was the first time

I felt like you would pull like the

Rockefeller Air Force Ones out your

jacket like when you was breaking that

down just how it was that was crazy felt

like was talking to like Rockefeller

royalty you are yeah they gave Fab a

Rockefeller chain all

right what's wrong with

that what's wrong with giving Fab a

rockchain Fab gonna snuff Joe all right

I wait I forgot oh wait I forgot about

the their political connects my no it's

not my bad want you to go deeper I just

PA never mind I just want you to go

deeper into what you were

saying the Rockefeller ch

very prestigious to some of us is like

the Yankee hat yeah I age you know this

I agree right I agree you got a chb no

that's why that's why I want him to I

don't even have

a roeller what you got all [ __ ] up my

[ __ ] listen what I'm saying is stand

for all so right that's how we all view

the Rockefeller CH that's why it's a big

deal yeah that's why I want you this is

what I want you wanted you to do right

yeah since since a while ago now since

for some time now mhm we've just handed

it to people big sea has one khed has

one but they're Rock

Nation I think those things should be

separate think there should be a Rock

Nation there's a Rock Nation Jan the

paper plane so now back to my original

point then why is everyone getting a

Rockefeller chain so so if I sound like

I'm hating I am you're number one I am

hating I want a Rockefeller me too I

mean back who don't want a

back to our roll out conspiracy is trash

as a friend I'm sorry part you really

trash my [ __ ] it's your job to get all

of us Rockefeller Chang right that's

true for Real come on Lenny well you see

when they get the Rockefeller chain when

the week their album comes out it's

every artist on Rock Nation that's when

they get

it [ __ ] just came out Big Sean's album a

rock Rockefeller chain and kiss we might

well if anyone's going to get one I'm

cool with one wait but kiss shouldn't

have a Rocka Jame one of the best MC's

of all time and he's on Rock Nation I'm

sure kiss chain is coming though I'm

sure it's Ro well don't present mine in

front of another [ __ ] it was Fab's

birthday it was his birthday I would

have yacked that [ __ ] it was his

birthday are they making new ones or

they just passing the same ones around

no these are new ones why does Big Sean

have Rockell Rock Nation on all right

I'm done talking to you what you want me

to say see Big Sean in the Rockefeller

and I'm hating still I don't care I'm

hating I am hating so don't tweet me to

tell me I'm hating I'm well aware I I'm

admitting to the hate I want a

Rockefeller shame I was on Rockefeller

for 5 minutes wait the wait the [ __ ] did

a rock campaign he he did a campaign he

did a campaign ad with Jo was dropped

before he got to the office to get the

chain this is crazy yo

D that's that's why I ain't got yo how

did that divorce go that is that I fell

on the Dame side of the divorce oh man

it's [ __ ] great

me see we would the title deal we would

have for rock chain

Elliot don't have one Jay does but

Elliott is over there on title he don't

have a rock chain you about to get one

right have that on

tomorrow hold

hold I'm let you know right now do get a

rock chain before me I'm fighting every

[ __ ] up there hold up I want to I want

to make myself I'm snuffing every [ __ ]

up there clear oh my bad I didn't mean

that if Elliot Wilson yeah is wearing a

Rockefeller

but you know what I am taking it from

him while he is wearing it while while

he's inside of it I am yeah it's going

to be it's going to be what's homeboy

Crabtree versus me when I see Elliot

Wilson in a rocker Elliot and you my

[ __ ] Elliot and yo Elliot and if you're

listening cuz you're going to listen

because you hear everything with your

name in it [ __ ] don't really give you

enough credit as a nonh haer yeah I

thought about this recently Elliot is

largely responsible for for the

acceleration of my broadcast career

that's a conversation for another time

but I have to credit him with not being

a hater like most people in the industry

are haters you trying to get the change

from Elliot with that

said Wilson N I bet never see your ass

in a fight you and be that feet will be

dangling in the head [ __ ] I want a

Rockefeller chain no no no I can see I

can see Elliot I'm not mad at Elliot get

one because Elliot went through the

whole X

earn I'm not mad at that wait but hold

up more hold up hold up I don't know if

you're ready for this this smoke so let

me talk to you first like you used to do

me before my Beast okay B do ain't chump

so before you just go jump out are you

ready for that smoke now you in the Ebro

[ __ ] I was cool with Y he Ain CH as far

as what I'm just saying on the verbiage

so n it ain't no B I'm just saying he

can't come on B do can't get a rock

chamber before why no no no no no no no

before mall that can't happen [ __ ] is

mul done n that can't happen he's

related so yeah that by Blood like come

on N that can't his brother own the

company my brother's name is on the back

of that chain it's like what are you

talking

about yeah are you crazy [ __ ] like B

going to have Maul's last name on his oh

no we we would jump B dot b dot b dot

you can't win a Rockefeller chain m not

before me after me and B do could get

his but he can't get his before me yo I

swear let me see Charlamagne with a

[ __ ] Rockefeller swear to God let me

just put a whole list of

names it's about 20 names I got to put

on there's a few of you [ __ ] that kaer

can have his that's

cool Lebron yeah yeah LeBron that's

where it stops listen kaer Lebron stop

at Le after that my [ __ ] if I go to the

bowling alley and Angela Y is just rock

di in the air definitely has a rock

sorry m jaak city Annie up Jay-Z goes to

all five of Angel Le's birthday parties

throughout the year so she definitely

has a Rockefeller chain yeah that that

she don't bring out as long as I just

got to get mine before they get there

after that this whole conversation

changes I'm not mad at nobody after me

man if H was a real [ __ ] he would just

gift us some Rockefeller chains if he

was a real [ __ ] you hear

me he threw that out there real

[ __ ] like well I guess I have

to anybody I have a list of different

loopholes in the system that might

enable me to get a Rockefeller chain

that was one anybody that hold ever

dissed should be F Joe has one

now does have he definitely has a rock

fell chain now Rock Nation that's crazy

that's really wild

wow wow I ain't going lie H you got to

hit M man hit me you got to hit somebody

ly my G Parks yeah he can be I'll take

the CH I no I'm I'm with you I'm with

you on this no I'm joking right now you

probably deserve a

rock I want one just for nostalgic

purposes it's it's a it's a it's like a

stamp it's a New York

stamp [ __ ] a New York stamp that [ __ ] is

no but when you're from New York and you

you get a chain you know I mean you've

done some things it be seeming like I'm

hating on I see why [ __ ] say I'm hater

but I really I don't think big sea

should have a Rockefeller CH y'all can't

that Mak sense to me it's kind of weird

to be affiliated with two crew come on

man that's a little weird Rock two

different chains I'm not hating but

there's just a certain symbolism that

comes with that chain to me yeah I agree

I I agree with you they call me a hater

because I'm probably more passionate

about [ __ ] like I'm even this

Rockefeller chain bit it start as a joke

but now I really want

one I'm with you uh off of this the

Grammys uh listen round of applause

before we go that Fab Jada we talking

about him did y'all listen to

tape listen to tape it's cool yeah it's

cool I was disappointed were you I

waited I waited almost three years for

this really he did not wait almost three

years for this they HED at this almost

three years ago you starting to

countdown at a hint [ __ ] yeah I see why

you because I really those are two of my

those are two of my favorite rappers

this [ __ ] read hints all wrong what you

mean you can't start it a hint mo why

not if you knew that they were recording

music and they and they were saying that

they're going to do a tape together for

almost three years all right so let me

ask you a question you've met fab right

yes and you've met kiss right yes

all right any [ __ ] that has met both of

them should know that at the start of a

hint even if you start there that album

going to take a second I'm not mad at it

taking when you did that verse when you

do that verse for Fab that mixtape

[ __ ] uh I want you back with t no no no

no no no no it was like a random mixtape

cut I think Paul affirmative

action that one I don't remember that

had to be what two years ago two years

ago cuz we was in the studio then and he

said the [ __ ] was done this what I'm

saying this was two years ago and I was

hearing it was done

is how Fab has said it's been done for 3

years he still a snitch that music

sounds 2 years old though I mean I'm

sure they tweaked a couple lines here

and there that was D no I just mean

musically like sonically the evolution

of music listen man growing up in New

York you finally hear that Fab and

Jada's doing a project together I'm

expecting I'm not expecting that much

because neither of them they're two of

my favorite MC's but neither of them

really have ever given you like that

crazy classic album to me all right got

to know when you're about to start sh on

my friends not I'm not know in

advance was amazing I see both of these

[ __ ] I'm not [ __ ] on nobody I'm

just saying I like Freddy versus Jason I

do too I had I was going to wait till y

was done with [ __ ] on it so I could

say I liked it I thought it was going to

sound I didn't think it was going to

sound like that I didn't think that was

going to be oh this is exactly what I

expected I don't know I don't know what

I was expecting but I wasn't expecting

that I wasn't expecting and you too old

to go into albums with expectations you

were too old for that nah

cuz right now if I hear

that uh forel no ID and Timberland is

producing Jay's whole next album I have

high expectations for that well that was

Magna carter but I'm just saying if I

hear that right now I would still have

high expectations for that like you just

hear certain names working together and

you like oh this is going to be this is

incredible all right we're having two

different conversations uh I think the

conversation you're having now was about

trust certain people we just trust yeah

it was it's the I don't think that's the

sound I was expecting what sound did you

expect I don't know I can't even explain

it but I didn't think that was they

definitely had some like trappy esque

stuff on there well the the future and

the French record the only ones I

skipped cuz those are the tra ones they

should kill the anr who called future to

get on a record that was above 90 bpms

saying some New York

L yeah I didn't I didn't I didn't

understand the fut the future Fe I

didn't understand it's it's one of them

you guys say face and put future on you

understand that feature I don't but I

don't

you do to me kissing Fab is so unique

and and and they're just so New York but

Fab has always worked with the the new

hot guy but now but my thing is now if

you're with kiss to me that's they

didn't need nobody on that but the new

hot guy has always called kiss yeah I

was going to say kiss always has that

too that's that's what I but they always

call him right yeah kiss is always a

feature yeah when kiss hop on it he

sound like the New York [ __ ] because

they called him respecting the OG card

right Fab when you hear him with the

newer cats it's not a OG card it just

feels like two [ __ ] in the same

climate still kind of like he said on on

Elliot Wilson's podcast about how he

used to be back then where some of the

old old older [ __ ] are still trying to

beat a man while I don't feel like that

about Fab I do still feel like he is

competing yeah I mean I think when Fab

makes records now he raps he's just

showing [ __ ] that he's still in

shape no he is competing he's comp I

don't I don't think I don't I don't

think competing what was the last single

Fab drop I don't think he's competing I

think he can compete I don't think he is

I think he just wrapped a show [ __ ] I

can still do you don't know Fab can rap

man knock it off what a lot of [ __ ]

they think that but not that they

uneducated people more but they listen

to this podcast I think he's doing less

but this podcast is about [ __ ] who

know musico yeah but the uneducated are

listening we a never talking so we have

to educate them I think he's doing less

showing that he can rap and more still

trying to get one and he successfully

still is getting records the same thing

all right so now let's have a Fab talk

this is going to be a long podcast

clearly the same reason that [ __ ]

clown FL Fab is the same reason I

applaud him me too you know they clowned

him for some of the corny punch lines uh

some of the quote unquote Instagram

caption lines you know that type of [ __ ]

how he dress how how he dresses uh his

Instagram he's active like he [ __ ] with

[ __ ] but that one no the case with him

like that that is an adjustment and an

improvement for him I think longevity

hip hop is the only genre that doesn't

applaud longevity and Fab has been

through errors for sure and has stayed

relevant and I don't think Fab looks

nuts when he dresses like the kids no

Fab never he never is a style icon

Nevers like honestly maybe a urban style

icon but there's quite a few people if

you just scroll your socials saying Fab

is the best dressed rapper yeah he puts

a lot of effort and thought into that

[ __ ] looks great I was shocked to see

him in sweats one day on the tour I said

it here oh yeah yeah remember he wears

sweats like I wear jeans maybe even

less uh but uh the Soulful record on

there is great uh the one squizzy with

the Marvin sample uh theme music is

great dop talk about it with Tiana Dope

by the way not we have to get some jokes

off while we applaud them uh when Fab

says how can we make America great again

when we let the haters in and the Music

Stops and Jada goes

wow is one of the funnier lines I've

heard this year I can't wait till Fab

and kiss and jump y'all I I've said

nothing but great things except for that

funny

line I like the project I do too I think

it's exactly what I expected I think it

should have came out Halloween but

outside of that intro is super hard too

it's it's a bar Fest I like it but it's

not what I was expecting

it's a bar Fest I liked hearing

conscious Fab uh on that talk about it

[ __ ] I don't feel like he's done that

enough in in his career and I liked

hearing I just liked hearing two New

York [ __ ] back to back I'm biased man

you you can't ask me about New York

[ __ ] no that's what I'm saying those

are two of my favorite rappers ever and

so you know for years knowing that this

project was coming I I don't know my

anticipation my expectations were just

somewhere else as far as what I thought

it was going to sound like sonically

then to hear it it's like that's not

what I expected but it's not a bad

project though

ready for my hot take yeah here's my hot

take I've said this I've said this a bit

and I'll say it

again I'm not

talking uh music I'm only talking

rapping that sahi album is probably some

of the best rapping you're going to hear

this year for sure I stand that's my bar

and I stand behind

it you kill me when I text you that I

said Yo Joe did you hear the album yet

he was like no I was like amazing he was

like [ __ ] out of here I'm like yo did

you hear it you like no like okay M I

was only telling you to get the [ __ ] out

of here

okay had nothing to do with had nothing

to do I hadn't heard down so now that I

but I knew like I said I knew you would

like it though now that I have heard it

not only do I like it I didn't realize

him and I had so much uh similar in our

stories until I interviewed him and just

heard him talk about just being signed

the street [ __ ] and then getting on

the label and then trying to leave the

label but the label not wanting you to

leave and it just so happens it was the

same I don't know I just I just felt

that [ __ ] on a spiritual level man I

did and then he talking that [ __ ] on

that album I think it was just great and

to bring crit into it too because they

were both on Def Jam signed at the exact

same time we're getting no love I just

love that they both drop albums like a

month apart from each other and it was

this high quality and they got out what

they were supposed to get out in 2010

Death Jam this is exactly why somebody

lost their job and Paul Rosenberg will

be there in January because and you too

slaugh house you can't I won't be there

you can't let these oh today's Wednesday

There's breaking news happening today

that I can't tell anybody about yet but

by the time y'all hear this podcast the

news should have been broken so there

that's the news unretired now back to no

not about me but uh back to what we were

saying Def Jam I I told them this up at

complex I said you notice a lot of the

people people that come up here bitching

about the label are from Def

Jam like that's where we are just where

we are right now the fact that y'all let

those two pardon me those two albums

that crit album and that sahai album

walk out that

building that's mistake especially when

they desperately need something like

that Frank Ocean walked out that

building no he finessed his way out of

that building thg his way out of that

building August alcena is tweeting his

way out of that building who else yo

it's a still with them tweeting your way

out of building is

funny that's just that's funny cuz that

[ __ ] August pop up every now and then

and just start tweeting [ __ ] man no he

do he get his tweets off but I feel him

on the disgruntled disgruntled label

[ __ ] over there at Def Jam listen as an

artist I would never want to put an

album out with the building in turmoil

and it it's it's just it's just funny to

me because all of this stuff that I'm

seeing was happening when I was there so

it's almost like Poetic Justice for me

like Damn you left early like I'm sure

Lupe looks at Atlantic like thank God I

got out of there

early it took him a long time he got out

of there early enough yeah it took him a

long time but just to see the [ __ ]

that's happening there now that ain't

Lupe that's true that s album might be

one of the best rap albums I heard in

the last five years I agree I don't

think easily easily I agree like I

listen to it I still listen to it and

I'm surprised that he made that album in

his climate yeah seriously I haven't

taken it off yeah like I'm I'm surprised

that he was able to sit in the studio

get production and make an album like

that in

2017 and probably like there I don't and

he's from the south right and I catch

new bars here and there that album is

very very impressive man it's almost too

much rapping for these kid but that's

what I was saying like that's why I love

it in this era and then he's from the

south to be rapping like that and put

music together like that is crazy to me

like that's very impressive very

impressive this this climate will always

give they'll always pretend like they

like it like I'm sure people did Listen

to sahi's album once but it didn't

deserve that they'll all tweet like oh

raps back and they'll only listen to it

once with no replay value and that album

takes 10 listens to catch the whole

thing M I think if people were more

invested in sigh they would probably be

calling it the rap album year a lot of

people pretend a lot of people pretend

to like rapping now like they'll it's

cool to be like yeah oh raps back they

do when they're invested in someone like

Jay or or Kendrick or or uh rap and then

it's yeah okay when I when I interviewed

him and and he was just talking about

how he was trying to leave the building

but they wouldn't let they wouldn't let

him leave because of all he contributed

to

Kanye what a tough [ __ ] spot to be in

man financially makes no sense to for

the writer of your biggest star to leave

and it barely makes sense for him to

leave like he's probably making good

bank doing that so Moon music too made

them want to hold me

too that that's just the thinking there

I'm anxious to see what Paul does I mean

I keep saying this but uh uh Benny

[ __ ] uh Westside all of them

[ __ ] I have high hopes for what I

think is about for what I'm for for

shadowing to happen Benny just dropped

his mixtape the other night it's crazy

yeah I know that that cover is super

hard the soprano [ __ ] I'm watching they

just do everything that that whole Camp

does is like perfect so now stop right

there I agree with y'all I watch them

from afar and I'm big fans I'm a big fan

right imagine now if Def Jam were

working correctly behind all of that M

cuz somebody's coming up with with

brilliant [ __ ] I think it's west side

it's w w I mean yeah if you know the

story of them Westside was like the

manager behind the scenes guy and then

his brother got shot he was like well I

guess I got to rap too well God damn it

it worked he's killing uh on sometimes

bad things turn good thing you I mean so

that that's great now if Def Jam were

functioning properly and with Paul as

the president I would assume that they

will be and with these gentlemen as your

[ __ ] Premier act that's tough that

reminds me of old Def Jam and if Def Jam

looks like old Def Jam guess what now

look at Davies different too right see

how that works dve dropped the mixtap

too I know but I'm just saying the grand

scheme of things when when your label is

looking like the label cuz everybody

every label is clear in their [ __ ]

agenda epic is with the hits [ __ ] uh

capital is with the hits inos scope is

with the hits Atlanta could take a

chance Death Jam is hip-hop they've

always been hip-hop you can't Veer off

from hip-hop you have to still be

[ __ ] hip-hop yeah well that's to Dave

and putting that out this is speculation

I have no idea uh but I feel like Dave

is in that weird I feel like he didn't

even want to release this but he has to

because he's waiting for the building to

start again in January no and there's

still a time where you have to stay

relevant within music and put that out I

mean he just put out um Dave is just a

type CU I've worked with him before he

doesn't leave the studio he'll record

[ __ ] million songs he just that he's

going to do that okay yeah I just felt

like maybe he felt he had to do that

because he's not sure what the Death Jam

situation smart to do it I mean there's

two ways to argue in this day and age it

seems to be working for most people and

it seems to be working for him so true I

can't really that's true you know and

that's how he's been since you know we

worked together in like

2013 maybe and even then he already had

four or five mixtapes yeah before put

had a lot of mix good point good point

like and then all the freestyles that he

does in between like he's a flutter he

floods which don't get the credit they

deserve by the way those little

freestyles that they put other people's

beats he be bodying that crazy well is

is Dave the hottest [ __ ] on deg right

now yeah Big Sean still did that last

album come out I don't know who's over

there two chains is still over there

well there's no new [ __ ] kany Kanye

West is on oh yeah as far as a new [ __ ]

and he's hot as far as up and coming

yeah yeah probably so this is a good

time for him to be hot while that

building is in a a little you what I

mean I'm rooting for Dave man but I just

something it's a it's a disconnect

somewhere I don't know what it is I

think he's doing everything on his own

still I agree I think that's the

disconnect he he's being paid the major

attention but he himself and his [ __ ]

in his team are still operating on their

own and The Savvy eye can see the

difference that that's my opinion prob

the case that's my opinion sorry Dave if

you're listening yeah I'm I'm rooting

for him though like I want to see him

get to that level rock with him we

[ __ ] with him yeah um okay so now now

now let's let's finally get to uh that's

crazy that I I thought we were leading

off with the Grammys and oh and I also I

also back to Saha real quick I I had got

I had I didn't realize Saha was sahi

with this record I was listening to like

two years ago I always thought it was

stack it was stack quo I think him and

stack quo sound exactly alike I don't

know a lot of people not on stack quo's

music that's old old Shady artist but St

had a few record he had a few joints he

could w and but just one record it was

just random because we talking about S I

always thought it was staqu and I found

out that it was sah what happened to

stack I think he left Shady went to

gunit and then after that it was hadn't

heard from him is that qu a [ __ ] that

put out that grits record girls raised

in the South I don't think so I don't

know I want to remember who put that

record out I think that was thatat quo

right oh stat was nice though I'm not

saying he wasn't but when he tried to

catch one wasn't it grits I'm looking

all right hey listeners if I'm wrong I'm

just wrong [ __ ] it whatever I don't

really care I I didn't mean to get into

this uh listen the

gramms uh first of all Round of Applause

let's get to the Round of Applause Round

of Applause for for everybody who was

nominated everybody who will win

uh let's see uh black is nominated I'm

really happy about that even if it's the

underground Grammy that they don't air

which she's right on schedule that's on

schedule for for the year he's had and

and I I do know that that they got some

music coming so he's on he's on schedule

to have a big Grammy appearance next

year I'm really happy for him and I

really support that kid Rap City and

remind me later to get into the black

and Daniel Caesar concerts I noticed

something please remind me I cannot

forget it's very it's important to our

culture honestly now what were we

saying show is so dramatic no I'm

serious I'm serious I told see you L I'm

going to remind you I told them we kind

of already had the conversation okay I'm

I'm going to remind you was there for

the conversation no no it was just me

parks no we going to have it too we

going I I made an observation so let's

go into it right after the Grammy talk

so you don't forget cuz your your train

of thought is I'm with that the Grammy

is what we expected right I don't think

we have to cover anything let's get into

it all right no no no I was real happy

with uh with uh the album of the Year

this year I'm real happy with uh I think

it's Tyler Bruno H and Kendrick it's not

Tyler Lord

G I'm sorry gambo I'm confusing I have

everything right here guys so you saying

[ __ ] [ __ ] so come on I'm not going to

yell over you while you're saying

Tyler's name uh childish Childish

Gambino Jay-Z Kendrick Lord and Bruno

Morris for album of the year I think

this is the closest year Kendrick Jay oh

they got to stop lord and this is the

closest they've gotten to [ __ ] I think

in a long time as far as definitely not

going to give it to Jay so we can take

that out of kind of the right hip-hop

album something Jay can't get it cuz he

got the other award was going to say

will they tailor everything around H cuz

you're getting that whole other thing in

New York you're getting the lifetime

award but wait he might have said to

them you know Grammys is a negotiation

yeah he might have said to them I'm not

coming and I'm not accepting that award

without winning album of the Year Jay is

a businessman I would not be surprised

if Jay takes Home album of the Year even

with all his extensive Grammy beef I'll

be surprised I think that Bruno's going

to take if Jay takes Home album of the

year I'm putting out a

record well you should have put put out

a record anyway so no I'm putting out a

record you you

the last if they give Jay Alma the year

I'm putting out a record dropping at

midnight that night for the last five

years you've been saying that though I

got bars [ __ ] don't don't look at me

like that cuz I feel like you sweet

right now anyway so don't I mean MC food

I know but Mo would definitely have a

little in front of his MC name so watch

it you know you know better than don't

play like get the [ __ ] out he would be

little something little he could even be

Lil M cuz it was already a Jamal who was

little he was in Junior Mafia so you're

done kiddo he was death I would never I

would not have a little you can fade all

I fade them all and kill them all i m

was nice too yeah you trash

[ __ ] M hey you know what I a even rash

you can't [ __ ] with that moall that mall

kill hey yo is a few of the young [ __ ]

like the young rappers who were nice who

we don't talk about like I see [ __ ]

talking about that group Home album

recently that was crazy and how the

production of that came about classic n

A+ my [ __ ] A+ A+ used to go yeah hell

yeah CH Ali I listened to when I was

when I was young for sure [ __ ] is who's

that other little [ __ ]

sh was dop young Method Man that was

shahim yeah we don't talking about you

[ __ ] I love know here where y'all rank

all these people but that's a different

story for another the youngsters come on

come on yeah Cruz pop is the hip-hop not

not all right anyway delivered that one

a little bit better than you huh deliver

that one a little bit better definitely

that cruise pop beat oh y'all lucky I

was trash back then boy I would have

tore that beat apart but I'll still

young those those group home beats are

Prem killed that whole entire [ __ ] 100%

yeah but I don't think they're going to

give Jay Alum of the year uh all right

so who y'all think got Bruno Bruno

they're going to give it to Lord if they

give that [ __ ] to Lord shut up no he he

might be right seen this movie before

seen this movie lord's name is there and

they still have the number one album on

the ch next week I've seen this movie

before n but I think they've done that

movie with Lord before at some

point n okay Bruno should win that

though he had defit he had the biggest

of the all right wait a minute wait a

minute wait a minute has Kendrick ever

won this award no album of the year no

no he got uh snub by mmore rap Alum the

year that was rap

Al I don't put it past them TDE [ __ ]

to negotiate that either and I think I

feel I think they feel like it's old I

mean it is it is it probably is Kendrick

just need to he just need to perform at

the GES every and keep killing it I'm

happy with that I ain't gonna lie this

is the most album of the Year album he's

had that would be accepted by the Grammy

board so pimple butterfly is not getting

accepted by the Grammy board that way

yeah was Grammy likes uh uh AR [ __ ] how

much hip-hop do I think this is what the

question comes down to how much hip-hop

do you think the Grammys are willing to

recognize at that level this year

because Cove is getting that that very

prestigious Award right are they going

to turn around and give their other very

prestigious award the only award that

really matters some say to Kendrick or

HOV or a rapper period that's giving a

lot of light to hip-hop that seems a

little unlike you're probably right the

Lord is not getting that award before

Bruno Mars sir okay Bruno Mar this year

is Bruno Mars's Yannis of tempano year

I'm sorry so wild here excuse me this is

hisis atemp atempa

say G God bless you come my gang oh you

can say it everybody got perfect

anunciation [ __ ] what's his name

Kaz Titan t t was

just T that is his name I don't know why

yall laughing at that that is his name

you everybody on social was agreeing

like I don't know why they was laughing

that is his name his name is not his

name all right we need to get him on the

phone his name is t first Rory said that

gianis his last name is

t that's how you say the name that is

wild first of all I don't know how to

say that nigga's name but the point is

she called you big bro on the internet

who

tasio he big bro Joe yeah oh man which

big bro my

[ __ ] L what you mean you big bro Joe

that's your new name bro Jo big bro Joe

big bro Joe change your handle right now

to big bro Joe just going to turn red in

front of my face fix your [ __ ] fix

your complexion

[ __ ] [ __ ] big bro Joe your big bro Joe

he's big red that's your new name from

that that's your new name that is not my

name but when when uh I was watching

Modern Family last night was and she did

point out that homeboy on there the gay

dad not the fat one the skinny one is

definitely Rory with the red beard wait

what are we talking about you lost me

mod family and Rory you watch Modern

Family 100% Modern Family is one of the

best sitcoms period that's what that's

the cartoon right no no that's family

guy modern family is with uh Al

Bundy oh okay okay okay I got you yeah

no I stand behind that one I got you

that one is that's black people [ __ ]

yeah I got you I never seen it yeah you

love it you would love it you would love

it's our type of humor last night last

night we was watching an episode where

the whole [ __ ] was the Mom just calling

people on Facebook time the whole 30

minutes and that [ __ ] was hilarious

Modern Family is great you got to see it

um but what was we talking about the

gramys the Grammys who's going to win

best rap what's the uh Al year I'm glad

that rapity got uh nominated for best

rap I'm real happy yeah that was dope

that was dope so it does look like they

are trying to recognize hip-hop and

highlight our influence our culture yeah

and to their credit boy hip hop has had

a great year this year yeah I mean it's

going to be hard for me to make a top

list at the end of the year well I I

think with this whole this whole era

that we're in I think that we stand to

benefit the most with this era of

creativity because I mean I think that

you know our our culture is very

creative and we're very influential but

I think that now that we're in the era

where creatives are being

celebrated it's like now we're going to

start getting more recognition for it

are we who was it Bill someone finally

admitted this year that hip hop was the

biggest genre of music we all knew

already we knew that for years we saw

the influence across the world you you

do see it now with with these Grammy

nominations yeah like you start to see

the The Tide is changing the record of

the year the story of OJ was nominated

like that's that's something to say for

song of the year or record of the year

record of the year which is uh red bone

some Justin Bieber record story of O.J

humble Kendrick and 20 uh 24K Med I've

seen a lot of people talking about how

uh what's his name Ed Sharon got snubbed

which is kind of crazy cuz Mar is going

to win that by the way record of the

year yeah yeah 24 car definitely record

of the

yeara right what U what are some not for

nothing though red bone would be my

second that should deserve that if red

bone wins I wouldn't be mad at all I

would like for him to win something I

feel like he he deserves one yeah I

don't know you you I you I can't have

the the the acting board recognizing our

phenomenal artist without us recognizing

him you know I'm sure he's up for like

alternative Urban he's up the year yeah

no he's not going to win that but he

shouldn't shouldn even though I love

that album that album was a really great

album that's it's sorry to say it's

underrated I still play that [ __ ] what a

cohesive you just got to be in the mood

to play I don't I don't play it because

I'm not in that mood except for on

Saturday mornings sometimes okay like

kind I was mad that Ross wasn't

nominated for alum of the

Year Ra Rap Al year rather you all right

so here here's oh uh Ross is on where

Warner uh yeah he went from de Jam to

Atlantic Ross should have been uh Ross

should have been uh

nominated crazy what was the other five

oh Amigos kind of uh Amigos deserve yeah

they do cult they El because otherwise

it's rapity which in my opinion deserves

to be there uh damam 444 uh it's 444 Dam

culture lela's wisdom and Flower Boy

Tyler's album I can't I can't bead I'm

not mad at I mean I listen to that

lineup that's crazy yeah I I love Rossum

that Ross album was crazy that's

arguably my favorite hip-hop album the

year

when I get it when we do our our end of

the year list Ross will be on mindes for

sure top three Kendrick will be on

mindes and HOV will be on mines M and

rap and rapity will be on mines that

might be now some people might say

that's not diverse at all I would agree

it's not our fault that these albums

came up but out but time out time out

that's not fair I agree with Parks Two

Chains album is great yeah it is Tyler's

album is great yeah um Migos album is

great Migos album is

great they're just not exactly my goto

well two chains was my go it's not my

normal mood right so there's that um but

I guess when when are we going to do it

a year end we usually don't cuz everyone

else does it we did R&B last year cuz no

one did it we got to do it later cuz

hipop hiop is to be dro Joey Badass put

out a pretty good album this oh he did

he did yeah he did he did crit Oh I

thought yall said crit crit definitely

deserves to be up there this is crit uh

Not For Nothing Gold Link's album was

pretty good I didn't hear that yeah it

was I didn't hear it either I'm not on

gold link like y yeah y'all like cool

see that's a hipster thing Rory's a

hipster I'm telling you Rory is a

hipster all right guys I know we're

talking about way more no one no it

doesn't we another hiate you could just

know one so many things to talk want to

get rid of all so much content why are

we talking about the hipsters all right

fine uh 21 Savage I it's not for me but

I know a lot of people like that uh that

album It's Album yeah it's not true

sorry but people did like it uh how did

yis do again not my no I don't think

that that people liked that uh W shine

was a great album sh liked it but the

people didn't really deem it to be I I

thought highly of it though who album

Sean oh yeah it was a good touring album

which I think W needed some real that

record that ballet has with G easy that

should be getting more that record is

dope that record is super dope to me oh

I want to confirm one of my predictions

I told [ __ ] a million months ago that

organically that gey record was going to

creep up those Char you hipster saying

organically wh which which jezy record

that was very

hip y y'all have got to be kidding which

G par you can't cosign some of this Ro

[ __ ] I'm sorry organic is is hip you're

becoming very hip you changed sessions

we've shut up Parks you become very H

you're we to Pat I'm not hold on Meek's

album was great too yeah it was m is

there some good hip hop yo this year and

one of those uh early 2012 one of those

years one of those 90s years that's like

the debate about the 98 draft and the 03

draft like yeah like 2010 or 11 or 12

one of those years was I for which one

it was but this year is up there remind

me at some point to revisit that best

year in hip-hop topic Sean's album as

well should be at least discussed Vince

Staples uh people seem to like that

album as well I like Vin stles I didn't

visit that album enough I guess to have

an opinion on it more life is this year

yeah yeah I actually like I'm in I'm in

the minority that actually like that

album I don't know I didn't know that

people didn't like that album that's

yeah I felt to be

enjoyable ice is the person that told me

people don't like that I'm not going to

like put it on in the headphones and

walk around thing is

all the people that don't like that

album and then it brainwashes me into

thinking people don't like that album

what happened with that album cuz I

think it's great too but what happened

was we all thought blem and passion

fruit were going to own the summer and

then you never heard them again so it

kind of just made people forget about

the album a little bit but as a body of

work it's a it's a good album I still

want to know what caused that cuz I

that's blem Works in any other climate

and passion fruit and passion fruit well

pass tell me that wasn't going to own I

see passion fruit work he's had records

in that vein work so maybe y'all tired

of that feel from him but blem was Drake

in his bag I I don't get it yeah I

thought y'all would love that yeah they

bypassed that one like a [ __ ] I