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Jesus Christ. Press record. [ __ ] seem a little mean. I hear more. Such a long week. This week seem longer

than seven days. It did. Are we sure it's seven days in a week? This felt like nine. It was a holiday weekend, too.

Oh, that's what it was. Okay. And it was my birthday. That's why it felt like it was, man.

Thank you. Let's get all that good golly [ __ ] out the way so we can get to the [ __ ] [Music]

Devonte. All right. See where this is going.

[Applause] [Music]

Like eradicate my lyrics.

But the phony [ __ ] on the say my name. Watch

1212 [Music]

be on some girl [ __ ] trick on the one [ __ ]

[Music]

This is a long time ago. This is when this is when I made the decision to drop out of high school.

This song right here. Yes. This song. What's specifically in the song?

Nothing about this song. This came out. Mhm. Nah. Yeah. Might have been a freshman.

No. This is like 19. He was a freshman. Oh, yeah. I That's when I dropped out. Okay. Yeah. Cuz I was in high school.

Freshman. Yeah. High school. I think I was seventh for eighth grade. Seventh grade. Eighth grade. Yeah. I was out of here. None about this song says do homework.

I was uh I was six. Yo, can I just ask y'all real quick? What do y'all have a go-to song when

it's time to like get in the shits? Get to the shits. I was thinking about that like I normally go to Old Kiss

X ML. Oh, somebody's going to die if I play MP.

Somebody's going to die. MLP is not even fair. [Music]

and hold. verified Hey,

Young people, y'all really missed this. This was a moment. This was really a

moment. Roy, you missed it, too. I did. Oh, I did go back, though. You got Blueprint, though.

Yeah. You got You got the Black Album. Volume.

Uh, no. I was in junior high. But volume three was the first J. My bad.

I'll try to get you credit for

no new Joe button. No wor

microphone check one two. What is this? This is the Joe Button podcast. Episode number 177. Am I correct, Savon?

Correct. Episode 177. Welcome everybody. Shout out to the YouTube viewership. Uh shout

out to everybody listening from work. Uh and shout out to my my good good friends that I'm here with and have done this

podcast for such a long time. Maul is here. Parks is here. Rory is here. Erikson is here. Savon is here. Brandon

is in the kitchen somewhere. And that that is where we are. Do remember starting next week. Starting next week.

Clue really should have never let do remember die. Like what what's wrong with clue?

Do remember next week, starting next week, September 12th, I believe, this will be a Spotify exclusive. Also next

week, we are dropping two podcasts. We drop Saturday morning starting next week. Let me get a round of applause for

[ __ ] That's all next week. Also next week, Monday, state of the

culture on revolt digitally, Monday

5 p.m. Tuesday, call your [ __ ] cable company 1000

p.m. Yeah, there. Those are my plugs.

Let's work. No, we got some more plugs. Come on, get to duce. How is DP?

There was no DP that that had don't new Rory and Maul DP. New Rory and M.

Palooa was great on Friday and then we did uh the skate stage at Main America on Saturday and it was very funny to

watch a thousand high 17-year-old white kids jump up and down with Chris Styles.

It was it was definitely a new experience for all of us. It looked like a lot of fun. I was going until I checked everyone's Insta story

and saw that and then I was like I'm going just stay home. I'm going just stay home. I Yeah, I made a I made a I

made an interesting realization over this holiday weekend. Well, I made a few, but uh

like I'm like the the WBLS type of fun now. Like, wait, are you are you the grown

and sexy girl? WLS. Like, where where's the new shadows?

There's no new shadows. Where do where are the 40year-olds partying at? cuz I shouldn't just be uh

subjected to partying with Rory and the other Doo Say Palooa kids. No, some there's plenty of bingo games

up town. Yeah, the gambling spot. That's Sometimes I Sometimes I just need like a

bonding moment between my my friends and myself and not just ridicule and harassment like like support.

It's dinners. That's it. Dinners. Dinners. Dinners. That's the turnup. What type of [ __ ] you think I am?

I'm telling you that's at 40 dinners. Let's go to dinner. Why would I leave my house to go to dinner?

I don't I don't understand. Full fully functioning kitchen and chef. Yeah. Still go to dinner. Get out the

house. S do be want to act like she want to get out the house a little bit. Now to go to dinner.

Give a [ __ ] You mean your girlfriend in her 20s has been trying to go out, right?

Can you believe it? After she was just pregnant for 9 months. That's what I'm saying. Like stay home.

Like stay. How dare you enjoy your mid20s and do

what you're supposed to do then for golf. I'm I'm I'm joking. Of course I'm joking. Of course. Uh

Roy came in on his young executive [ __ ] today. You know, I'm chilling.

Regular Deler. Regular Dagler. Regular. Talk about it. It's just It's just It's a Tuesday.

I didn't like your pick. What you mean? I didn't double tap it. Dude,

I didn't like him. I can tell a [ __ ] like wrong with this [ __ ] He thought I

was going to like him and ho and Elliot and B do and Cam. The fact you thought that when I posted

it, you were on my mind is the hilarious part about it. No, no, I don't think that. I don't think that I'm I don't want you.

Well, let me post this so Joe can like it. I don't want to see you and Elliot take pictures again. Why is that?

Y'all have hit the limit. Elliot, I'm telling you too. Two pictures. Yo, when you see my It has been It has been

Yo, Elliot. Elliot. Elliot Rory is is is on this side now, man.

When When you see my [ __ ] pull out the camera for a pick, remove yourself. Remove yourself out the vicinity of my

[ __ ] My [ __ ] My [ __ ] My [ __ ] I'm joking, of

course. Shout out to Elliot. Uh, it looked like a good time. It was. It was a very good time. Maid is

interesting, man. I will say, of course, you see 6ix9ine and all the views he gets and all the traction he

gets, but I see that on Instagram and YouTube. Yeah, I forgot about Rory. When I got to watch an entire festival

stampede to the front when that kid went on, it was the scariest thing in my life. That worked on Rory. It did. That kid's got it. I don't know

how long it's going to last, but he hasn't. Well, you talking to Mo been saying it. I've been It's different when you see it

in person rather than just see it on the internet. Like 2 million views looks crazier in person when they're

stampeding to a stage to a kid that's in his drawers. So imagine what that giant stadium would have looked like.

It would have been nuts. New York missed the moment with that, man. I do think Summerjam's a little older

crowd though. Festivals are definitely for the younger kids. And he didn't have a Fifi. He didn't. That's not the one that did.

Yeah, he didn't need one. I know. I know. I tried. A Fifi. No, Fifi went off.

It does. That's a good record. Yo, let me let me Hey, let me Hey, let me come clean. I was wrong. I was wrong

on that one. Okay, that's honorable. I was I was wrong. I was wrong. It's

working. Yeah. Like, it's probably doing more than working. Yeah. No, it definitely is.

But he got he got a he got a a bunch of joints that I heard and I was just like, man, that's what he that's where he's

strongest at when those records come on in big venues. Like, you're going to see that that impact.

Okay. Yeah. So, you had a good time at Maid Pretty much.

I did. I did. And uh somewhere there's a video from American Airlines where I

told this lady who had a chart of famous people that they she was trying to get videos for. I told her I was Tak I pointed at

Tekashi and said I didn't have my wig or makeup on. So, there is a video somewhere with someone from American Airlines saying

with a script and it says, "Hello, my name is Tekashi69 and I'm trying to end poverty with American Airlines." that

exists somewhere and I hope it's posted. Okay. You know what else I hope is going to get posted? A Tekashi run down on

you. I hope that gets posted as well. I hope that's posted.

There was about 40,000 little white kids screaming Treyway for two days straight.

It looked fun. You You were one of them. Yeah, I'm in that category. One screaming Treyway.

Yeah, we might have belted out a Treyway at some point on Sunday. Yeah. When Rory put on an extra colorful outfit, you know you about to do

something to try to get the kids. My strategy. Yeah, he's trying to blend in. Blend in with them. Wait, what else happened at

May? That was the Nicki Titlip, right? Yeah. Which Listen, man. It's a malfunction.

I didn't believe the Janet Jackson one. I'm definitely not believing the Nicki Minaj one. That was purpose.

Was it? Yeah. I just don't know. I don't know. I don't know if we're in that era anymore where

nip slip is a big deal anymore. Uh, I mean, women actually go outside with see-through shirts on now. Like,

I don't think a nip slip is like back when Janet did it that it was a bigger deal like to see a nipple. Now,

it's kind of like it's a big deal when you go out and you don't see a nipple in the club. You kind of like that [ __ ] was trash.

What a prude party. Yeah. Like one naked chick at that public event. I'll be I'll be honest, it worked on me.

The the Nikki nip slip or the Janet? The No, the Nikki one. Okay. I I was looking I said, "All

right. Oh [ __ ] I didn't know." All right. Yeah. You didn't know Nikki had nipples? No. You know what? You know what's funny

about me? You know why I know I'm a weirdo? I don't never really look at the nipples during a a nip slip. I'm I'm

more of a cleavage guy. Okay. The cleavage to me is way more important than

Well, I'm I'm always curious about proportion. Yeah, nipple proportion is important.

And sometimes you try to guess by just looking at her like her facial structure. I don't like she be having I don't like

big areas. That's creepy. Yeah, I'm not I'm not a big Is that what you're trying to guess when you when you're looking at chicks?

I'm talking nasty. You get a nasty award. Yeah, I'm not a big Areola guy. Like if a chick has big areas,

I'm not either. Yeah, I don't like that. You're switching from that porn. Yeah, I'm probably going to pass. Do you like the Brily ones?

The little the bumps on them. Yeah, those are I'm not mad. Yeah. Yeah, they those need love, too.

They do. Yo, disgusting. I'm just saying y'all brought us to the

nip slip. So, here we are. Do you mind Do you mind a little hair? No, we ain't doing that. I'm not that

nasty. Now, knock it off, [ __ ] Hair on the nipple. Come on, Mo. I'm cool. You are a liar. You clean the

hair on the nipple. I did not. You asked me You asked me if I said he implied it. All right. All right. All right. Then

that's the wrong question then. You got You know the [ __ ] question I'm asking you, [ __ ] I don't. You ain't getting off a nipple cuz it

got a hair on it. I'm not getting on it if it got hair on it. You wouldn't see it. Yes, you can. How

would you see it? You can't see hair on a nipple. You don't think you can see hair on the nipple thing to catch?

Her hair ain't like ours. Hair. All hair on the nipples create a eagle. It's hair on a nipple.

It ain't no woman hair. I don't believe. I'm just tell I don't believe you. That's it. That's all I'm saying. You see, are you saying you're not beat

or you just going to skip past like your whole titty style? I ain't saying I'm not beating. That ain't that ain't going to stop that from

happening. That's what I'm just saying. I'm not just going to be appalled a little bit. I'm not going to latch on to the to the titty. That's all.

I'm cool. Just take that out your repertoire. Yeah, that's that's coming out the contract. Yeah, we not doing those. What if that's her?

We not doing those. Those. Yeah. What if that's her thing? The hair on the nipple is her thing.

That's her thing. No, no, no. What if that's like What if that area is like her spot? You just got to skip it.

Yeah, we got Yeah. All right. I'm done. I'm done talking here. All right. America.

Yeah. Back back to Made in America. Let's not objectify and sexualize here. Um,

I don't know if it's on purpose, but I mean at this point I can't put a pass. I don't I don't think it was on purpose either cuz like I said, this era now the

nip the nip slip is not a big deal anymore. Like that's not like nobody's talking about that today and it just

happened when like I don't even think nobody's talking about that [ __ ] anymore. What Rory, what were some of the other real good performances?

Uh, Meek was really really good. Push was really good. You forget how many records Push can do at a lot.

Oh, yeah. Wait, Nikki brought Uzi out too, right? Yes, she brought Uzi out and Tekashi and Ferg. Oh, was good. Nikki had a good

time. And Ferg and Fergre that [ __ ] dope. And Ferg came out. He's an underrated performer.

He's underrated performer. Ferg is an underrated everything. We're going to talk about that a little bit later. And Nikki let them get like a little set

off. Like each artist did two or three records. Nice. Yeah, it was good. And I think Nikki was

smart there. And not to take away any of Nikki's performances, but an arena full of your fans and a festival show are two

totally different things, right? And I think I think Nikki just needed some more diversity with her set.

Wait, did Kendrick perform tonight? Yes, he did. Oh [ __ ] How was that? It was great. Um, it was a Kendrick

performance. It was great. Just a really good performance. Damn, I should have went.

Uh, Black was really, really good. And shout out to Black who couldn't even speak before he got on stage and then

proceeded to do a 45minut set. Wow. Wow. And sound amazing. Wow. and then get off and literally not

have a voice to even say goodbye. [ __ ] Yo, some of the things that performers have to go through while they're

performing, that's that's nuts, man. I said if you don't just put your hood up and just play the record out

with the speakers. And I'm sure he killed it though. Black's album is is coming out soon. I'm

gonna keep saying that because it's really really good. So, I just feel like I need to remind people. I think I think I've said this on the podcast before,

but Black is one of those artists where he sounds exactly like the record when he performs. Like, it's creepy how much

it sounds exactly like the record, which is tough to do. A lot of artists can't do that, right?

Yeah. Especially singers in this age of autotunes and such. Yeah. [ __ ] all that, man.

You off that just that quickly? Hey yo, hey yo. Yo, I hear y'all, but

yo, [ __ ] all that [ __ ] y'all talking about. What's on What's on your mind, Joe?

Uh, no. I mean, I don't think there's anything to really get to this week. It was not much happening. It was a slow week.

It wasn't slow in my mind at all. It was a slow week. My mind was racing away. Yeah, I was kind of looking for some

things that we can talk about and I couldn't really come up with nothing. Well, I got some I got a few.

Let's hear it. Well, it's funny you say that. Funny. Funny. You should mention it,

Maul. Just over the weekend on my birthday. No, we got to talk about the m all the

great music that's been released. Great. Okay. Yeah. All right. So, you know what? Let me tell you. All right. Let me let me

start. We'll just start with like story time, right? So, let me play some music. Hold on.

This is how I'm starting my story. Emotional roller coaster. This is interesting. Let me see where you going with this one. Yeah, check me out.

I'm checking you out. Shout out to Vivian Green, by the way. Very underrated R&B record right here. Very underrated R&B record.

Spotify get mad every time I play a record. I'm sure they do. Like, [ __ ] get that.

Uh, emotional roller coaster, right?

Give her a string. Yeah. Word. All right. So, so Friday

was my birthday, right? Friday was your birthday.

And that means that Thursday my birthday was approaching. Mhm. That is a fact. Did you turn up on

Friday or Thursday? Friday. My plan was always to turn up on Friday, right? So, Thursday, in the

great words of Rory and Cardi, was regular schmaggler still. Like, I went to bed. I went to bed at a fairly decent

time. The way I normally go to bed at a fairly decent time. I went to sleep around eight. What? Hey, might have

Instagrammed your plate. Get get some Z's right now. The chef is on vacation. He out in Vegas insta snapping it up with his

friends. No wonder you're home starving. Yeah. Yeah. This [ __ ] is [ __ ] up in my crib, man. Uh,

so I went to sleep and cuz I was trying to, you know, get some energy cuz I was going to have a wild birthday

in my head anyway. Mhm. Um, and I woke up around 3.

I woke up around 3:00 a.m. So, it was my birthday. Actually, let me not lie. My plan was to

have a very chill, low-key birthday. I didn't want to see anybody. Sin was planning a real big surprise shindig.

Yeah. I had to repeatedly let her know, listen, I don't want to see anybody. I don't want to go anywhere and I don't

really want to do anything. So, that was a thing. That doesn't leave a lot of options. Yeah. I mean, so that was a real thing.

Listen, Art, the schedule is getting kind of packed. I hate to sound like that. Y'all know what time it is. We about to be real busy. So, any day where

you could just rest. Yeah, I'm trying to rest. I feel you. But you didn't rest on your birthday. I did. I did, actually.

Well, Friday, you didn't rest. Friday night. Night night. Night night. Night night. Night like 12:30. Saturday morning. But

anyway, so listen. So, I get to my phone at 3:00 a.m.

and I have 777 mentions. That's a scary number.

I be terrified when I have a lot of mentions and I haven't tweeted anything. Oh my. Yo, and I was low. I was low. I I

ain't tweet nothing. I be scared when I see 20 mentions. Yeah, cuz I don't tweet like that. So,

yo, so that's what I I saw. So my heart started beating fast, right? But then I

remembered it was my birthday, right? So you thought everybody was just wishing you happy birthday. So Oh man.

So I What a bummer. So I immediately get in my head and and

cuz I didn't I didn't want to I didn't want to be No, I was angry. Okay. You didn't want I didn't want to be bothered on my

birthday and I didn't want to talk to anybody. So I damn sure don't want to read 800 messages from [ __ ] Right. So that's what I'm saying is I'd hit the

double tap to scroll up in my head. I'm like, "Come on, man." Yo y'all. I know y'all. Yo, come on y'all. Just chill.

Right. And then it got to the top. Mhm.

The roller coaster. I see where you going.

To the top and just stood there for a little bit like Kingdom K. Yes. You got your hands in the air at this

point. Yo, I got to the top of this [ __ ] and everybody tasted like, yo, it's a new M joint. I getting that joke. Mhm.

And I said, I scroll down a little more. That like that's what the first 50 tweets said. Yeah. And I said, "Oh [ __ ] there might be

some truth to this." This might be like the real deal, right? This is This is happening.

As I continued to read, you guys Mhm. That's what all of them said.

Further down, they started quoting the line. That's when the quotes start happening.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. After somewhere around the 300 mark. Yeah. Yeah. They started to tell, "Oh, he's in

his bag." Then it was that I'm just giving y'all rapper lyric thinking.

The fans are hyped. The fans will make you think some [ __ ] is crazy. Yeah. Yeah. The fans I was a little

that he got you the [ __ ] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz I got some of them mentions

and I was like, "Wait, no. This ain't true." It Yeah. And then I went and saw it was true and

I let you continue and continued on with your Yeah. Same. So, I went and I checked the iTunes

Ops. I went and I checked the credits and I went to the song and my name was

there. Mhm. And then I stopped listening to the song cuz my name was there. Right.

Right. Cuz that's none of your business. And then I just started rapping in my head. Let be honest. Let be honest

immediately. Okay. Drop of a dime. Just started rapping. And with that, you are now about to drop

the exclusive disc record. Hit play.

Then I then I remembered I was retired. Okay. Then I remembered I was retired.

You you you got a little of yourself. Yeah. I know how you Yeah. Come on. Yeah. Start running through the house.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Me and Brooklyn. Me in Brooklyn just running around the kitchen island jogging slap box in the air

remember throw a roundhouse in there every now and then the uppercut that's the only

time a [ __ ] show you the uppercut in the arsenal with a flat box that [ __ ] never throws that never in a real fight that's the one to

sleep you too but that's a risky one yeah oh yeah you get left if you can

don't miss don't miss the uppercut um where was I going with that uppercut how did we get an uppercut You was running

around after you heard. Oh, yeah. Yeah. All right. So, then I remembered I was retired, right? And then I went back to sleep, went to

cuddle with my girl, and [ __ ] this [ __ ] right? So, then the next day came and I said, "All right, let me listen to the album."

And I listened to the album with with my fan ears. Mhm. With my fan ears. I want to say that

that's important. And let me also say that this might be a nerdy podcast. This one

Well, it'll be a lot of lyrical miracle breakdowns. Yeah. Yeah. This might be a little nerdy. This ain't really for This is for

y'all. Um, Damn, my memory again. What was I just saying?

You want to listen as a fan? Oh. Oh, yeah. Let me just say as a as a as as a fan, right? I think that's one

of the things that people that actually do music really hate about doing music.

Mhm. We're unable to hear music and enjoy it

because it's a job. It's work. Yeah. Yeah. I always hated that. I hated that I

couldn't I was jealous of fans that fans got to hear music the way it's intended

to be heard and not as a job. So, let me say in my retirement, I kind

of f regained some of that. Yeah. I don't I don't because I'm not

competing and because I'm not in it and because I'm not so invested that way, I

kind of just hear music and enjoy it. I think that answers the question for a lot of my uh a lot of my music fans,

fans of Joe Button music out there who wonder how I like a lot of the stuff that I like and we're going to touch on

that a little bit later too cuz that's really important. Well, that was one of the reasons why I always try to stay away from studios

like I hate that process of listening to music because I feel like that

it forces you one by the time you hear the finished product you Yeah. You don't love it. You don't

have a you don't have a real love for it. Mhm. Um, and you start to listen to music differently.

Like after I started being in studios a lot, like I'm listening to other music and I'm like, damn, that's mixed horribly.

Exactly. Like, oh, I can't hear enough of the the bass here. I can't. And I'm just like, when did I turn into this person?

You know what I'm saying? I just I remember just listening to music and just loving it or hating it. Now it's like it's why don't I like it?

It's not enough for this, it's not that. But go ahead back to what you were saying about the ears, the the fan ears.

So, I'm listening. So, I I began to listen to Eminem's album with my fan ears on, and

I was really excited. I got really excited at what I what I started to hear. Uh to me, it sounded it just

sounded very different than than his entire approach on the previous

album. Mhm. It almost sounds like he had the mixtape mentality.

Anybody can get it. No label, no si single. I'm I'm tearing [ __ ] up. This

is what I'm here to do. It's the exact thing I thought he should have did on the last album.

I thought in the last album he should have reminded people how dope of an MC

he is and he didn't. Yeah, he did something different. So, I was

very happy as a fan to see him take that approach because when you take that approach, it doesn't only reflect in

your lyricism, it reflects in your entire approach. Yeah. Right. The beats were different.

Yeah. They were more aggressive. Yeah. They were a different style.

Yeah. Um, he dropped it out of nowhere. Surprise. Whoa. Sneak attack. That's a

little different too for you meastar. big major machine man. I guess you just found out that people

were doing that. People that are as big as you can do that. Yeah. Just everything was different,

right? So I guess as a fan I was really happy to see that. Everything I was mad about on the last

album I was kind was fixed here. It felt like he wanted to he wanted to

make this album because id said with the previous one M was at a point in his career that he doesn't have to do the poppy [ __ ] to stay relevant. That's what

we thought. And then he attempted to do it. Yeah. That's why I was so mad at the last album. He didn't need to get the

the seven white chicks to sing the hooks and do all the popping [ __ ] Yeah. Pink on the album.

Exactly. Yeah. Like it felt like he was listening to [ __ ] Red Man on his way to the studio for this [ __ ]

Well, well, this album I learned some things about Eminem. Um, he definitely pays attention more than I thought he

did to social media and what the fans are saying. We going to talk about that

later, too. Um, but more importantly, man, I I I'll let

you finish because I don't want No, go ahead. I know I don't want to jump ahead. I just want cuz I see where we I wanted to kind of keep a timeline of what's going

on. Well, I think whatever label intern tweeted that out from his Twitter account. It was right. I didn't

overthink this one. That's how he introduced the album to everybody cuz it felt like he was overthinking and

trying to please too many people and trying to find an angle for his approach on the last album. and it came off corny

and it came off disingenuine. This just felt like, nope, I'm gonna go and rap. I like that beat a lot.

I'm gonna go rap on that. And then left. Yeah. But see, I have the the one the one

problem that I have with the album is and I'm a fan just listening to music.

I feel like Eminem is trying to still prove that he can rap.

And I don't think that nobody has ever said that Eminem can't rap. So, it's like I didn't understand like listening

to it. It's like he sounds like he's at this point in his career, he's trying to

prove something. And when you're at this Yeah. But he he responds to the last album. I

think he felt he had to prove I'm glad to hear him try to prove something. No, but see that's the problem I have with it. When you're Can I ask you a

question? Cuz cuz I'm going to forget and then cuz it goes to whatever you about to say. Do Do you Would y'all say that most creators are insecure?

Yes, absolutely. I don't know if most creators I don't know if it's insecure. I would say that they're

I know we have to live in this place of self-doubt and uncertainty sometimes. Yeah.

And I know that that's different from being insecure. I think sensitive is the word.

Okay. But what I hear when I listen to that is a very insecure man. Sensitive and insecure kind of walk the same.

It speaks to what you're saying. Yeah. If M was M I mean if M viewed himself the way that

we view him or have viewed him He wouldn't be trying to prove he can rap,

right? You know good and goddamn well Jay-Z is not trying to prove to [ __ ] that he can rap.

And that's my point. That's that's my point. At this point in your career, it's in cruise control at this point.

Like you just going in here creating and just, you know, whatever is coming to your mind creatively and you're just

putting it out there to the world. Like I feel like he went in there like his career was dependent on this album.

I mean, or his legacy was dependent on this album. I'm not mad at him trying to prove that he can rap because that's

what he does well. I'm more mad when he tries to prove that he can make these different types of pop hits and try to

be political and try to do this other [ __ ] which is cool. But I think that when a great creator is just trying to

prove I'm really good at what I do and I'm going to show you again and again and again, that leads to more longevity

than let me try to show you that I can do. I think that's the wrong approach though. I think when you're creative,

you you have to live in the moment. Like creativity comes to you. Is something that you you can't force creativity. You

have to live. You have to experience and you have to draw creative energy from whatever it is that you're experiencing and and that you're living. That's my

thought. I agree. Like when you start to force creativity, you feel it. It's like, yo, you don't really feel like that.

I agree. You don't really feel like that. I love where you're going. You know what I'm saying? It's like you don't feel like that. I know you don't feel like that because I can feel that

that's something that you just somebody heard or you you heard somebody say that and now you

but that ain't real when you're a creative. It's like you just take you just drawing inspiration from just life.

I agree with you. But I think that when you're trying to force the creativity into something like oh

the all these kids are rapping on this type of music now. Let me show that I can do that. That's [ __ ] That's where you go.

When you're just an excellent rapper that's where you [ __ ] up. Steph Curry can't try to dunk on everybody next

season. That's not what you do. Exactly. That's not your game. Listen, listen. But I I do think Oh, go ahead.

that that trying to prove that you could rap better than everyone. I think that's where M's second half of his discoraphy,

he's been doing that and it sacrificed the replay value. Marshall Mathers LP, of course, he was rapping his ass off,

but he was making songs and structures that fit him and it had a replay value. I think like with the rap god [ __ ] I

listened to it once. I thought it was [ __ ] amazing. Not going to go back and listen to that. this M album. I liked it and it proved that he could rap

better than everyone in the [ __ ] world. I don't know how much I'm running back this last album. Yeah. I don't know if it proves that.

And I'm with Maul. All of y'all stop right there. I want to I want to continue to big him up.

Oh, no. No doubt. I want I want to continue I Joe always wants to start with love.

We've heard the verses. Yeah. They never end with love.

But I want to finish I want to finish the love first.

Back to him correcting all of the things that a lot of us hated on on the last

project. I really hated that Royce was not on the last album. Mhm. Yeah.

Boy, was I angry. Mhm. I'm I I get I I get angry for other people that I love a lot and I just felt

like he should have been there even if he didn't feel that way. Um, so it was great to see Royce's name. It

was great to see Joiner Lucas's name. Uh, that meant that meant a lot. That

meant that you've heard Joiner Lucas. That means that you've been outside

and understand your It means you've been on the internet.

Very telling. We'll get to why all of that's telling later. So, I was really happy to see that. What else was I happy about on this album?

Um, I was happy at the the beat selection for the most part. Yeah. Production outside of the few what Parks was saying

the, you know, the Drake beats. It was definitely a step up from the last album. They were great.

And I was really happy about some of the concepts. Mhm. Yeah. Some of the some of the concepts, you

know, I I felt like introspective M had has been dead for a little while now

outside of you giving us the very formulaic emo first single. Yeah. It's

nice that he got away from the lean on some sentimental [ __ ] It's nice that he got away from the Bon Joy beat with the white girl singing the

chorus. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We were we seven of them on the last album.

Yeah. It's true. It's true what you guys are saying. Um that mother I love the way you lie

worked and M said, "Well, doing this for the rest of my career." Skyler Gray joints is what? Oh, it was a Skyler Gray. Yeah, that's

right. I mean, he's done it with all of them. He's done it. He's done it with a lot of them. Um, so yeah, I think that's what I

walked away with when I had my fan ears on listening to the Eminem album. I was really, really, really, really, really

happy about the switch, the change of pace, the change of pace, the change of

imagery, the change of direction. I was really happy about all of those things.

What do you think about the cover when you speak about imagery with the Beasty Boys nod? I'm over Eminem's

uh in uh infatuation with the Beasty Boys. I am. I've been over that for quite some

time. I love the Beasty Boys, too. So, I feel him. But I understand. Me, too.

I thought it was good. I mean, the kamicazi [ __ ] I thought it was a good play. Yeah. I like I like the cover.

Not Revival. What was the album before Revival? One of them albums that whole roll out. Yeah. He had the

was the Beasty Boy Jack with the Beasty Boy video. producing when you changed your hair and you and Rick Rubin was

together. Oh, the old Shady is coming back. It's blonde now. That whole thing

you were doing that somebody said was cool. It wasn't cool.

It wasn't cool at all. And I'm not the gatekeeper for cool, but that was Me neither. I'm I'm not cool either. But

that wasn't cool. I know some [ __ ] ain't cool. I mean, that's a fact. Yeah, I can be the gatekeeper for

uncool. We know. And I don't mean this in a a bad way cuz I think I am one as well. He's a rap nerd so he loves that [ __ ]

and VC boys are what he grew up on.

You all right, man? How far do you guys want to go with hot takes today?

Let's go all the way. Yo,

I'm [ __ ] with you. It sounded a little yingy, but we here. Broke the tension.

We We here still. Hey, you know what's what's funny? I did kind of have that conversation with myself uh before I got

here. Like, am I going to pause anything today? Cuz I'm going be I'm mad. Like, I'm not stopping the pause while

I'm mad. Anyway, um I got you. I got the pause button with the hot takes. Yeah, you hold the pause button, Mom. Um, with the hot

takes. With the hot takes. Let me start let me start by saying

I'm so glad this day has finally arrived. Me too.

Felt long overdue. Man, this has been building up for cuz while you say Rory that M is a rap,

I'm a I'm a rap nerd. No, that's why I said I consider myself and me too. I think we all and and me too. wasn't a

diss or a slight raper. I consider Slaughterhouse to be rap nerds as well. Right.

Absolutely. Uh and rap nerds speak rap nerd language. Mhm.

Boy, am I glad this day is finally here because it allows us to be truthful

finally. Boy, I love when the gloves come off. I love when we could stop dancing around

respect. Mhm. because I was taught this industry is built off of relationships.

Mhm. So, let me start by saying early in my career, I dug myself in a big hole

having to learn that one. Got to be careful about the holes you dig yourself in. You never know when you'll need your

reputation and credibility later. Right. I want to say that

we're going to be very honest today, very truthful, really. and and and and

understand that this is not coming from a place of anger, a place of

hate at all, a place of, you know, disrespect. Not at all.

Right. And let me say, I haven't spoken to all Rory about anything I'm about to say at

all or parts. No. No. I like I like when we do podcast like that. Yeah.

But I mean, this has been a convo behind the scenes for a long time. So, let's get let's get to the shits,

right? [Applause]

99 coming while I was in rock. Ironic [ __ ] list in the robot pockets, rabbit

ears, no paper, lot of cotton. Had some charges stemming from me and my squad rob.

Yo, so that record was originally a disc record, Marshall.

In classic Joe Button dissecord fashion,

I was starting with love. The therapist always says

you have to start with love.

The therapist also says you have to go to the very beginning.

So let's do that. Boy, perception is important in this industry. So, and let me come clean. Let

me let me put the onus on Joe. Let me take some accountability here. Let's let the cat out the bag. You guys guessed

it. I I take full responsibility for the demise of Slaughter House. Thank

you. Full. I want it. I want to own that [ __ ] Yes.

Hold the [ __ ] up, man.

You [ __ ] right. Let's talk about it. So, let's go back

to the beginning first, though. This record was a this record, right? And we're going to go further back, but I had to be talked off of the ledge.

You know, that would have looked ugly. You know how nasty that would have looked back then

to come out and diss your boss? That's your sign too to come out and just start being honest.

Though if though if I were to pick a rapper that would do it. True. It would be. Yeah. But you can't pick a fight with

the biggest rapper in the world. Drake. Drake was arguably that

when you when you start me and Drake are a lot closer than me and M. Let's be very clear. Let's be very clear. Let's

be very clear this podcast. Me and Aubrey a lot closer than me and

M. interpret it how you may. Right? So I would talk that would have been real

bad. It would have just been bad business. Bad business. Bad business. And bad business was already plaguing [ __ ] Right? So

that record didn't start like that. Let's go to the beginning. Let's break this down from the beginning.

In my brain, and this is only my brain. Y'all know I'm a little weird and obsessive in how I view things.

So let's start at the beginning. at the beginning is oh perception that's what I was on perception is important I take

full responsibility for the demise of the group because now that we can finally talk about it my perception of M

was just very different it's always been just very different and

their perception of me was always very different

I've never been on I'm yo I already know how Joe give it up. I'm that major label dude.

So, let's be clear. When you sign the Shady Records, you sign there with hope.

You sign there thinking some things are going to occur. That may not be written in a contract.

The contract is never going to say, "Hey, the biggest rap star in the world

will do A, B, and C to help your likeness and your visibility and your brand."

So that's the hope you go into these things with. Y'all following me so far? Yeah. On board.

Very early in the process. paranoid trust issue Joe man cuz that's

who I've been my old career. Y'all know I got issues. Y'all know I'm a little nuts

and I've had label drama and I thought my brothers did as well. I started to see some things that were just very

telling very early on. And the answer that I got every [ __ ] time I sniffed

around the same way I sniffed around at Complex, same way I sniffed around at Def Jam. You know when you don't know

[ __ ] and you got to just start sniffing around.

You know what everybody said? He's a mega star.

He can't do that. He can't do that. He's a mega star.

Huh?

What? Who are y'all talking to? Joe,

y'all know. Wait. All right. Cuz I [ __ ] [ __ ] up in the past. Let me really clearly understand.

We can't open up a tour. Oh, you don't go on tour.

You're too big. How the [ __ ] would I know anything about that? I ain't never been that big.

Is there such thing as being too big going on tour? Yeah. I never knew. When I first got to Death

Jam, the rumblings that were going around at Def Jam was DMX was turning down two and $3 million bags cuz he

didn't feel like it. Mhm. Guess what? Then I didn't understand it. Today I do. You take certain things for

granted. You just take it for granted sometimes. If he could have those days back, he would do it.

I was about to say every artist would do that. He would do it. Tell me when the last time you saw Eminem tour. I'll tell you. The Rihanna

tour. Well, he was just on a tour in Europe, wasn't it? I was going to say, did That's not a tour. Oh,

and if you want to call it a tour, he does that every year. Every year, right? Let me tell you, let me tell you what

Joe Button thought. Joe Button didn't think that Slaughterhouse opening up for Eminem in London did anything for

Slaughterhouse at all. That didn't blow me away. I wasn't mesmerized.

I can understand that. We're going to come back to that word a lot. Mesmerized. Joe stopped being mesmerized

long ago. Joe wasn't mesmerized when he got there. That's a big issue. All

right, so to fine, you too big. We can't tour. All right, we can't open [ __ ] up. We'll keep doing our chitlin circuit

[ __ ] but boy am I jealous of Rick Ross and Wall. I mean, Wall and Meek Mill,

man. Damn. That [ __ ] Ross is out there showing us.

Mhm. This is what Joe is. Ross is showing you how you're supposed to be with your artist.

Mhm. He's next to those guys. Yeah. Right.

Fellas, you know where all this Can we get this [ __ ]

Tell me where our advantage is in being here with him. Can we get a verse on

some [ __ ] Well, I mean, yeah. I mean, we just we just got to get the song. I mean, and if

we get once we get the right song and then we send it to Paul. Huh?

H You also have to remember though, who the [ __ ] are you telling that to?

Me? Okay. M ain't the business guy though. Like the way Rick Ross and like Hovar,

they always put business first. I don't think M ever has. And it's never been his thought process. So, you're dealing

with a creative, not really a businessman, and how he's going to leverage Slaughterhouse with his power.

I guess people had to learn that. Yeah, Rory, that's what I I guess you're right.

But you have to learn that sometimes. All right, so cool. We can't get inverse.

Let's go record the album. Record the album. Four of us. Great

music. Great times. Always great times when it's just the four of us and Joe's

brand. All of this is Joe's brain. Boy, it's a lot of fun when it's just us. Better music.

We love it. Yeah, we love it. Hey, every slaughter house mixtape on house. Uh what was the other

one? Um it was another one. House Rules. That was all Us. First album. First album. All us.

Yeah. All us. All great music. All first mixtape uh before JD. Uh All Us.

All Us. It was us. Boy, we're good. Royce is great. Royce is amazing in that studio. He's great.

Great sessions. Everybody kind of knew their role, right? All right, great. We can't get him burst. That's fine. That's fine.

Okay, we'll make it happen. I think for me, I got a little lost. And that's why that Tiana topic a few weeks

back was real big for me when she was talking about she did an album and then gave it to Kanye and then it was a different album when it came out.

That was real big for me because Shady Records was the very first time that I had experienced that in my career.

I had always been in control of my music. Mhm. And the uh final result of it, the

outcome, when we did all the music, we couldn't hold it.

Mhm. We had to send it somewhere. And then by the time it came back,

it was different. Yeah. It wasn't the same. I mean, it sounded like a bunch of

Eminem beats, but it wasn't. But it sounded like it to me. I'm not saying that he did it, but ones

that would be for M. Well, I mean, it's even deeper. If that weren't bad enough in Joe's brain, cuz let me keep reminding the

listeners, all of this is Joe's brain and Joe's perspective. Other people can have their own, but this is my platform,

so I'm going to tell you mine. If that weren't insult to injury enough,

right? Because back then, you know, like I said with the Tiana topic, there's certain

people that you just I guess they're so great that you have to trust, right? Yeah. I want to keep reminding people

what I've been up against. Self-awareness is important.

I understand how powerful some people's light can be. It's blinding sometimes.

But Joe, the reason why all this is funny is because, you know, when Mike and everybody would

call me and, you know, other guys the contingency boys because of things that

we were saying behind the scenes amongst the group. But this is things that I was

thinking and I'm just like why isn't this happening? Why isn't that happening? Why isn't and everybody's

answer was always like it was like that's the Wizard of Oz. You can't go

see The Wizard unless it's like you know what I'm saying? And I'm just sitting there like but little but little little

things will push this like further than y'all can imagine. Just little things. Yeah, man.

So everybody looking at us like yo the contingency boys. And I'm like, but because we're sitting here looking at something and it's like this plain is

clear as day. Little just little things here and there will move this whole movement further. But here we are in

2018. So we give we give him all the music. Cool. It always came back saying

we need a five more song new direction. There's no sing, you know, all of the major label stuff that Joe Button has

hated his entire career. And anytime we was on a page and I went in there and I said some [ __ ] I was the only one

saying stuff. I mean, I want to be clear in how I was viewed there.

And and let me also be very honest, that was a very shitty version of Joe Button. So, if there were ever a version of Joe

Button to be judged, it was that one. I just didn't really feel it was fair to be judged there the way that they were

judging me because Eminem has been Eminem. Like I grew up on Eminem too, right?

So you can't judge Joe. How could you judge Joe for taking pills?

Like how could you judge Joe for these allegations that are floating? If anybody gets it, you get it,

right? And let me let me tell you, it wasn't him. It wasn't him. But that was my thinking back then. So, if that wasn't bad enough

that you can't hold your own music, every time we had to go do five or six

more songs, it was always mad Eminem beats. They were horrible.

They were horrible [ __ ] beats. I've said it to you a lot about that.

I've said it in sessions. They were bad [ __ ] beats, man.

And in private, but but no, hold up. Especially for it wasn't about I don't want to say they

were bad beats. They were they weren't for us. They weren't for us. They weren't for us. They weren't for us. I take it back. I take it back. I take it

back. They weren't for us. They weren't for us. And let me tell you something. Even if it's a bad beat, when one of the greatest rappers in the universe is is

trying is pitching it to you, n head. It's in the bigs. It's in the big sexy studio. That [ __ ] might sound

like y'all mean, but is it us? No, it definitely wasn't. No, it wasn't. But you say that in

Slaughtermouth. Who am I to go against so many records sold? Obviously, what you've done has worked.

Who the [ __ ] am I to say because it hasn't worked for them? What works for somebody else doesn't necessarily work for you. Also says in the song, "What's good?"

You know what I mean? That's that's very important that we got we we we remember that. That's that's a life lesson.

Absolutely. What works for you in your life is not going to work for me. 100%.

And back then, I mean, again, this is my virgin, so my brothers might beg to differ. I was saying guys, we're not

white. Yeah. His fan base is not We don't have his fan base.

We don't want his fan base. On top of that, yo, like grimy

real rappers. Yo. Yo, Hammer Dance with Ybox. Yeah. Yo, but even some of the ones that he didn't

produce, like the additional stuff he did on it, like frat house for instance, like all types of explosions. And

let me add some more context here. Let me add some more context here as to what I was up against.

Mhm. And again, this is just Joe Button brain.

Be very clear, Joel Ortiz got his start with Dre on Aftermath,

right? That's important to note. Yeah.

Be clear, Crook is a West Coast [ __ ] to the

death. Mhm. started with Shook.

I don't need to paint the affiliations here for people, but for a group of bandits, a group of

of misfits, I I'll be honest with you guys. Yeah, I didn't sound like it.

Sometimes you got to really That's when you're at that crossroads of [ __ ] you want to risk it all. You want to take

the leap of faith. You want to go for it. You want to really go, you want to do this? You really want to jump out

there with with it? You want to go for the single? Want to get radio?

Is that who we are? What do we really want? Again, when you sign your record deal, ask yourself, what do you really

want? I wanted respect. I didn't want money and I didn't want fame. I wanted respect.

I can't put words in my brother's mouths, but I was the only one with that stance in my head.

In my I could be totally totally wrong in my head. That's just what it was.

If that weren't the end of it, sometimes when the songs came back, verses were

missing. It's four [ __ ] in a group. You want

you want an M verse, that's five [ __ ] All these [ __ ] rap. This is before eight and 12s really

became the the thing. And we had to try to figure [ __ ] out. Somebody's verse had to go.

Imagine that competition in the studio racing to the booth. Yeah, it's nasty.

It's nasty. It's nasty. It's nasty. I don't want a part of that. I don't want a part of that. But anyway, when the

verses came back, it was normally Joe's verse cut.

That gave a lot of information to Joe. Why do you think that is?

Because Joe's the most popular member in the group. Do I need to tell you why you can't cut Joe's verse off certain songs?

No, I'm asking why you think they were cut. That's what I'm asking. Oh, I don't know. It may not have been the best verse. I I don't know. I can't

speak to people. I can't speak for people. But most of the songs were like emo kind of songs. So that was telling

it. What it said to Joe was you don't know [ __ ] about the group. You don't know [ __ ] about the group. You

don't know [ __ ] about the three [ __ ] that and I'm not talking about Royce. I'm talking about me, Crook, Joel individually. You know nothing about us.

or if you did, you would never be able to make sense of taking Joe off of our emo intro that Joe had to fight for to

even be there the first place. Y'all cut that record.

See, that's more [ __ ] Joe got a real problem with other [ __ ] being able to determine what goes and what doesn't go

in Joe's [ __ ] idea. [ __ ] let's talk about it for a little

bit. Know what Joe's going to do every time

you try to contaminate his idea? Guess [ __ ] you [ __ ] right. Exit.

Exit stage left. When Hey, when you know your value,

take your value with you. Oh, y'all know what's going on.

Then go make it go on. Go make it go on.

Replace me. Do something. But my time here

is over. I understand my brother's sentiment when they say maybe I should have told them

that in a much clearer way. In my head, I was saying that every which way possible. Let's fast forward and remove

myself cuz my love for this hip-hop thing is a very selfless selfless

selfless thing. So, let's get back into the music. Let's be honest here. M, this

is me with MC Brain. Pause.

What happens with the big mega stars, Marshall, is, and this is what I noticed at during my

time there, cuz cuz you and you're my you've been my greatest case study. I'll

be honest with you. I've watched you very closely

during my my time here. I have. So, let's start at the beginning. Paul

Rosenberg. Paul Rosenberg was a rapper, right? Paul Rosenberg, for whatever

reason, don't end up rapping or popping off. Paul Rosenberg finds Marshall

Mathers. Marshall Mathers is an amazing amazing amazing amazing amazing talent

rapper. You know what happens with most amazing rappers? When a [ __ ] When a [ __ ] finds them, they can't make a

record. They can't make a song. They got to go learn how to make the [ __ ] song. Happened to me. Happened to Marshall.

So, he had to go learn how to make a [ __ ] song. Some brains somewhere

came up with some amazing [ __ ] When I say [ __ ] I don't just mean

music. I mean a plan. And from that, I was sitting in my room

at 17 looking at MTV with this white [ __ ] who was amazing with words saying,

"Hi kids, do you like eyelids?"

violence as a [ __ ] on dust. Boy, did I love all

of that. And you were super nice.

Let me be the first to tell you since you've been in this mega star cocoon cuz that's what happens with the mega stars.

Y'all stay in cocoons. You popped off quick. And when you pop off quick, all that type of success and oh man, it's a

lot to deal with, baby. Baby, is it a lot to deal with? They

sheltered you your whole [ __ ] career. They had to.

Who was selling records like that? Only [ __ ] moving units, M Pimp, Juice, and us.

You was doing amazing [ __ ] And you've been sheltered. Let me speed this up for

you. News flash.

I heard the album and because I think you don't really know all the members that were in the

group, I don't really think you know our history. Let me tell you what Joe Button has

thought this entire time. I've been better than you this entire

[ __ ] decade.

Huh? Can't say that back then.

Can't say that back then. But in my rapper brain,

I'm a content [ __ ] You got to say something. You have not said anything

for the better part of a whole [ __ ] decade.

That's true. You have rhymed a bunch of words. So, let me give you some love. Eminem is

the best rhymer of words in the world on the planet. He can rhyme letters.

Yeah. He can rhyme words that don't rhyme. He can rhyme accents damn near.

Mhm. He can do a lot. Boy can He's talented.

Know the hip-hop I fell in love with. The hip-hop that said, "You got to say

something." I personally haven't heard that Marshall in quite some time.

I think recovery might have been the only little minute that I felt like it was the old content m.

Yeah. How could I be mesmerized

of someone that I think I'm better than?

You've been in your cocoon, so you're unaware of a few things. The tricks that you tried with the pop stars, you can't

come out of your cocoon and pull with the rappers. M, you're no longer in control.

You're not the person in control. Yeah, that's the point that the people that you shouting out, the people you're

dissing, let me get off of that for a minute. Know what my greatest line in my entire

diss tracks? Know what the greatest line is ever that I've ever said out of all the

punchlines, flows, schemes. Know my favorite last bar. Pain in his life. Saigon. Cut

the track off. Listen to your thoughts. Checkmate.

I don't know what album y'all heard. I heard a [ __ ] that knows it's over.

I heard a [ __ ] that knows. I heard a [ __ ] that's fully aware that he has not

said [ __ ] for about a decade now. I see a [ __ ] threatened

by the other [ __ ] in the game. I see a [ __ ] still using an old trick. Fam,

stop calling [ __ ] name. Stop just throwing names out and thinking that that's going to be a

single cuz you said a bunch of names. You ain't said [ __ ] Find another muse.

Pull from somewhere else. You [ __ ] superstar [ __ ] been sheltered and bored. MGK is right. Y'all been slaves

to your own [ __ ] superstardom. You can't leave the house. It cost money for

you to go out. You don't know [ __ ] about [ __ ] M.

You don't know that it's probably three [ __ ] on the label that are better than you.

Talk about Oh, wait a minute. Griselda's there too now. Mhm. Which is another Wait a minute. You got the nerve to be

shouting out all these [ __ ] on your [ __ ] album and you don't never shout out none of the [ __ ] you that did you

sign? How you really feel about the [ __ ] that you signed? M Let's talk about it. You don't think it's odd that

you said my name more as adversaries than you did when I was there?

You don't find it odd. You don't think that looks like you not into the business of Shady? You into the business

of Shady. H that was a bar.

The [ __ ] is wrong? Hey, let me tell you something. You don't get to come out and

call the shots. Number one, as the lesser MC, number two, as you're not backed anymore, [ __ ]

Fair playing ground. [ __ ] is you on? It's me. It's me. I love this.

Ask about me. My dick get hard when it's the mere mention of rap beef. Pause.

Ask your friends. You thought that a domestic violence bar

would get Joe out the bed.

And M is better than that. Who thought that? Hey, hey, anybody out there who thought a domestic violence

bar was getting Joe out the bed? M, you know the rules of engagement. You know how this goes. No, [ __ ] I'm retired. I

had to go get my millions another way since you wouldn't help.

You got the [ __ ] nerve, insecure man. Now you got to prove you

belong here. Rosenberg, Peter Rosenberg did that same thing. For you to be such an amazing

rapper, why you now you got to prove that you belong here all of a sudden? Why you saying that in the first song?

That's not Yeah. Yeah, it is.

But these are things that I've been felt for years. But I just know that if I say it, I'm the unpopular opinion in the

room. You're the hater. M. You know, I feel like that's become a pretty popular opinion. When I used to say Royce is better than

M, everybody thought I was crazy. Royce is 100% better. I used say he makes better music than M. People thought I was crazy. Royce 100% makes better music than M.

But when I said it, it wasn't the popular opinion cuz we could we let's not say this. Let's leave wor cuz Wor Let's leave.

No, it's not. No, we ain't put I'm just saying I it everything you're saying, the sentiments that you're expressing is

what I've been expressing. I haven't been amazed by Eminem in years. Yeah,

them tricks away from them tricks that you pull with the pop stars ain't going

to work with the rappers, especially the ones that's not mesmerized. You're naming [ __ ] that's still mesmerized with you and you still a little dated.

You're naming Hopkins. I mean, not Hopkins. Hopson. Hopson retired seven times.

He's retired seven times. Number one. Number two, he does the rapidity rap [ __ ] and he says stuff. You name Cole,

he rapidity raps. He says stuff. You name Kendrick, he rapidity rap and he says stuff. You name Logic. He rapidity

raps. And funny you should mention him.

You want to really have some conversations about what adult Joe thinks you've brought to this game?

How far do we want to take these hot takes? I think I could go to court and make a

valid argument that you was the first plant. I'm not going to do that.

But talk about all you've brought to the game. You bought a lot more [ __ ] than that

and all of them ain't nice. I hear a [ __ ] I hear a [ __ ] on that

album. This is the first time you ever came out and said that you bodied Hov and

Renegade.

Why'd you say that? You don't never ask yourself that.

You know why? Blueprint came out in 2001. Yeah. It's 2018.

Mhm. M is coming out and telling us and that was a a punch line by the way. I got

everybody waiting like the future that everybody said I got the better on. Y'all know what I'm talking about.

Whatever that line was. M sound like a news flash.

You're not in the same ballpark as Hove. I was always that guy too in Slaughter

House. I'm a Hoveve guy. I'm a Hov guy. I'm biased, but I never thought that M

killed him on renegade. Same. I think Nas just said that and then people agreed. That's what usually

happens in I think I think M got them. I mean I I also don't think that that proves you're the better MC. I think they both I think they both had

amazing performances talking about two different perspectives, a white person and a black person. Let's not even change where we going.

Let's keep it on. But why did he say that? Right. Wow. That's just think about think about it.

Just y'all think about it. Just y'all don't answer. Just y'all think about it. I'm just giving y'all where I'm at with

it. Also, that line about me, the domestic violence [ __ ] coming from you is just like it's just a little

it's a little Yeah, that's a weird messenger. One, it's just a trash bar and disc for

a really good rapper. You M is could do a better disc to you than that. And then on top of that, with Eminem's history, I

know no one's going to say it. He's been accused of these things before, too. So, you think he'd be a little bit more

sensitive, right? And think maybe I shouldn't be the one to say that. And then his [ __ ] dated

uninformed ass goes back to his back to his big joker that's worked his entire career because

that's what big mega stars do. Now you're talking about Tyler and [ __ ] homophobic. What? Shut up.

Shut up [ __ ] News flash. M cocoon meast star man. The gays run the world.

The gays run the world. They're not they're not reacting like they did when you had TRL on Smash. Sorry man. It's a

different time. It's a different time. I was always saying that when I was confused as to why you never were aware

of anything that was on the internet. I always think the [ __ ] that ain't on the internet going to get left behind.

Yeah, absolutely. So, let me get back to my emotional roller coaster

because at some point MC Brain came back

and had to figure way some things because I have nothing to gain by rap ever. I'm done. I'm done there.

and and and I heard a lot of people saying, "Yo, you got to get up from M. Yo, it was M M Center." But y'all don't

know I've been feeling like this for a long time. So, that don't really do it for me either. And he's desperate.

Not Joe. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. First song he comes out and lets lets

everybody know that he's a big mega star and him even saying somebody's name gets them a whole lot of press and exposure.

That's very telling, too. It's telling that you know that yet you spent your entire album

calling names. It's telling that it sounds like you didn't have anything to rap about at all

until Joe's honest critique. That's telling too. The mission is great.

The mission is [ __ ] Do you remember the last Do you remember the last line in in Idols before the seven Campbell

beat came on? Something Oh, no. Maybe the first verse. The last line of the first verse. something about since I ain't I ain't

got the ain't got the reach to do it. So, let me reach who could do it right. Damn how things change

from then. Now we reach everybody. But uh damn, I had a point that I was

getting to before where I just got thrown over. I am not having anything to rap about. Oh, wait. Oh, yeah. So that's really

telling to a [ __ ] named Joe too that now you have something to rap about

because let me tell you what my theory is and has been for quite some time.

I hate humans. Humans are viruses. We just suck [ __ ] We just Right. Who said that? We said that from the matrix,

right? I would have sounded nuts saying this a little while back. So I never said it.

Well, I said some people. Um, damn. Where was I going just now?

About what? What was you talking about? Remind me about M not having anything to rap about. Oh, yeah. You don't Damn, that's like

the ninth time I Yo. All right. So, back bong thing is about No, no. M him having nothing to rap

about. Right. So, back then, here's a theory. Here's a theory. CSI said you got to look for facts to support uh

theories, not theories to support facts or something like that. Right. Thank you, CSI. Yes. That was a long time ago. Season

one. Gil Gryom, one of the smartest men ever. Um, so back, so back then I was saying, and

this was my theory. My theory was, yo, such a great rapper and such a great such a quick fall from grace where a

[ __ ] has nothing to talk about. I think

I don't think the label cares about us at all. I think we're a passion project. Yeah.

But no, I'm telling you that that was an epiphany for me. uh one day said, "Wow, I think that we are like pet toys."

I think I think that we are here because of our great rapping ability.

Who else would notice that but another great rapper and here we are, but it ain't really

about us. And then magically, I just started watching what was happening. Then Bad Meets Evil comes out. A lot

starts happening. So that lends me to think, "Oh [ __ ] Oh

my [ __ ] god. You Oh fuck."

And then I was married to that thought. We got to get out of here.

We got to get back to our sound. We got to get back to us. We got to get back to owner [ __ ] We got to get away from this [ __ ] That might be a hard sell to

these three. Yeah. Yeah. Right. To a lot of people. Yeah. But my theory was, "Oh [ __ ] we're

the muse. We're inspiring him." Who the [ __ ] is going to ever believe that?

Nobody. Until there is no more slaughterhouse. And then the next group is Griselda.

Right. That is the next group, right? Yeah. They will be the next sign. Guess what? Same pattern. They've lost

traction, too. Now, it's all right. Y'all can say it. We love them. We love them. But let's call the spade a

[ __ ] spade. The [ __ ] steam was rolling alone. Is it rolling now?

Definitely slowed down. But no, no, they doing [ __ ] on their own. Have we seen where's the where's

the didn't elevate the way it should have with a major machine behind it?

They was fine on their own. So I thought so while and they both put out amazing projects and their merch

[ __ ] be moving but they have the machine behind them now and the machine didn't do a [ __ ] thing. Yeah. You think you'd get a little bump?

I don't even think M knew that Westside was even putting out an album or Conway.

He didn't know it was my birthday when he dropped. He didn't know [ __ ] He didn't He didn't know [ __ ] He doesn't

know anybody. We never spoke to him. We don't communicate with him. We didn't exchange numbers. I didn't understand.

He didn't wish happy happy birthday. Listen, y'all joking around, but when the narrative was going around that Joe

Button is is is not uh trustworthy, Joe Button is burnt the bridge, Joe Button is doing X, Y, and Z, I was like, "Wait

a minute now. Hold up. To to have to gain trust, you got to

instill trust. What the [ __ ] has the label done to gain Joe's trust? I'm not mesmerized here,

[ __ ] You all on the album proving yourself

worth taking credit for 50 Cent's arrival. News flash, Megastar man, you didn't choose him.

He chose you. 50 Cent could have signed with any [ __ ]

in the [ __ ] universe. I was on Desert Storm. They sent him a contract. Well, not one, but I was around.

I was on Def Jam Universal. They sent him a contract. Everybody with ears sent

50 cent a contract. Know what Joe thinks? Know what Joe thinks?

I ain't really hear you with him until he was hot already. I didn't hear you with Kendrick until we knew Kendrick was

Kendrick already. Rappers are stock options people. So, let me tell you something. Joe was at the label thinking

the the signs were on the wall long ago. Long long long long ago. I was watching

Kendrick very closely. I got to watch Dre's new baby

when I'm with Dre's old baby.

I saw a lot of money go to him once he proved itself. Know what Joe said in his

brain? Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Look who's priority now.

Uh uh oh. Uhoh. That's around the same time that all

that Slaughter House can't seem to get funds for support from Innercope. That's not a mistake. The writing is on to all

people who can't see these things coming. Who can't see it?

Fast forward. Emma's putting out music. It's trash.

He's telling us it's trash. That's also on the album. Him first song. Him saying, "Yo, I maybe could have said the

Trump [ __ ] a little differently." Hey, same thing I said. Why Why am I getting dissed? Right. M is on the album saying, "Hey,

revival that it wasn't really the greatest." Hey, same thing Joe said. Why is Joe getting dissed?

Yeah. Just stop me when I'm wrong. I'm off on a tangent here. I apologize to the people.

This is great. This is great. Is it? I don't want to be too long. No. No. Is it cool? It's cool.

Okay. Um, so back to rappers being

like I view it like superheroes and stock options. So, so the writing was on the wall in Joe's brain in regards to

M and just being on Shady. I attribute some of the some of the

albums being whack to Dre not being around. Absolutely. Dre Dre Dre left.

Yeah, Dre was gone, you guys. That's important to note in the story.

Dre was gone. Know what happened when Dre left? Jimmy left, too.

Know what that says about the label, people? Figure it out on your own. Hey, know who else left from that fallout? 50

left, too. 50 left, two. I'm just telling y'all what Joe's brain was

saying while everyone was, you know,

all those people left and TDE arrived, killed it.

That wasn't that wasn't important. Um, let me go on my phone really quickly

here. Oh, so then when I started thinking that to know what's coming in

the future, you got to look to the past. I thought about D12.

Like Emma's not the best businessman. Emma's artist. You got to always be

careful with artists trying to promote other artists. Yeah. Yeah, when I went back to look at D12 and you know, I can't I won't speak

on other people, that's their business, but something happened.

I'm sure the fans came away with something happened. They didn't really We didn't see a great close.

Yeah. Especially cuz their first album did really, really well. They had two really big records.

Yeah. Their album did well. Obie's album did did well. Yeah. It wasn't like something that they tried and flopped. It was quite the

opposite. D12 was very successful and then something happened out the blue. We didn't know but they were success. D12

could be successful with the M formula like Purple Pills and all that can't really work for Slaughter House, right?

This is when you was going to have to adapt, right? You was going to have to change and show something different. And while I was

going through all this [ __ ] behind the scenes, know who started beefing publicly? Yo Wolf.

Oh, that's another [ __ ] now feeling away.

Interesting. I started to feel like him is just coming and taking what he needs and

going and doing what he needed to do. I can't prove that. I couldn't prove that to anybody.

And when I finally felt like I had nobody else to [ __ ] talk to, I did what Joe Button has always done.

I win the booth. I win the booth.

This song came out what year? 14 maybe. Wait, no, this is before. So, this is

probably 12. 2012.

2012, I think. So, 13. 2013.

I don't know if that's right. Savon, find out when On the House came out, the mixtape.

Listen to Joe Button. You always have to get into lyrics. You got to get into lyrics.

Listen to this verse. Thought we were defying the odds. I thought that we the storm. I thought that we travel the same

road. I thought that we never conform. Thought we were defying the odds. I

thought we weathered the storm.

Do y'all know what that even means? Yeah. There's a bunch of Joe Button verses out there that are solely focused

on the love I have for my brothers and my brothers only. There's a reason for that.

There's a reason that I'm only ever talking about my brothers and those

gentlemen. It's important to highlight because whatever tension exists between me and my brothers solely exists because

how all of us view him. I just thought that the group could do

better without him. Mhm. I thought that we were better than him. I thought we didn't need him. And I

thought that we could get paid from a very powerful brand that we created as an indie festival monster. Not really as

a major label hit making factory, right? See, being Eminem works great for

Eminem, right? Just not so much for us. Tell me you bad

still trick me. Don't tell me that I was just wrong cuz now I'm masking it to me whenever we about to perform. That's a

[ __ ] crying for help. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm talking to the rapidity rap nerdy

people. That's a [ __ ] that who that is exhausted and has tried every other outlet. That's a [ __ ] that has has seen

a wall at every turn. Don't tell me that we're conforming now.

Hm. Yeah. I'm at the last leg of my career.

Managers can manage at 70. Rappers can't. Yeah. Rappers can't rap at 70. So, if there's

some [ __ ] to be fixed, Joe Budden thinking he should fix it now, my [ __ ] Cuz I'm on my way out. Like, I was

clear. I was very aware I was on my way out. I wasn't holding on.

I wasn't having fun. That's not fun. Thought we was about to heat up. It's taking a while to get

warm. Whoa. M That's to you, my brother. I thought we was about to heat up. It's taking a little while.

How can that be with the biggest rap star in the world?

You can't make it make sense to me. I'm not going I'm I'm not going to continue here, but you just couldn't make it make

sense to me. Let me give you the last part of my emotional roller coaster and the crossroads that I was at eventually

in my head. That [ __ ] you spit toward me was trash.

And I'm not getting out of my bed to respond to that. Just like I don't think anybody else

should have got out of their bed to respond to your ass either. They should just left you boring mad like MGK said.

Because what happens is, um, if you were paying any attention to your group, the irony is you're faced with now all the

same things that we were faced with back then, which is how do we transition as the rapidity rap guys

in a new climate? We had songs coming at everybody. You

said, "Don't put them out." Or Paul, funny you're doing all of those

same things now. M as a as another rapidity rapper. Let me tell you some

more [ __ ] What happened was rap was born in New York and it started out as the metric to

being nice being the metric for being nice as an MC was how nice you are as an

MC, right? What happened was the other creators that weren't so nice at MCing,

you know what they did? They created, right? You know what was birthed from that? All

of these kids. Yeah. They couldn't rap like us. But we couldn't melody like them.

We couldn't vibe like them. They changed structure. They changed sound. They changed

everything in music while you and Nikki and all the other superstars were busy

being superstars. Y'all had no The rug was pulled from

under you guys. Y'all had no idea that the things that made y'all a superstar

were no longer working cuz these kids who maybe couldn't rap the greatest created some [ __ ] Hey, when I had to

let go of that resentment and that bitterness, boy, was I happy about everything. And I loved and welcomed a lot of people. When I preach about the

young kids, it's just for them to be aware and have their business in order cuz they have full control. A control that we didn't have back in the day,

right? That's all. So here you come angry at the kids.

Yes, you're right, M. They can't do what you do and you can't do what they can do.

Right. You got the [ __ ] audacity on that album to say you got no faith in the

writers. You don't believe in ghosts.

Know what I thought when I heard that? the [ __ ] goal, [ __ ]

For 10 years, [ __ ] we stopped having faith in you,

not writers. Why is Safari calling me?

You just heard put his input in.

Safari, I have to Safari. Pass me this thing. thing. Pass me this.

Oh god, man. We're trying to be Yo, I'm here listening to you and you

interrupted me, bro. You're supposed to be talking. Uh, I was talking. I was actually in the

middle of my podcast. Hey, podcast. What's up, Safari? Safari. I'm talking about Eminem

right now. This is a bad time. All right, I'm going to call you back after I'm done. All right,

podcast. That [ __ ] said, "Podcast, what's up?" Yo, Safari gonna let [ __ ] know he's

Jamaican. Safari. Yo, Safari bought me a a little uh man purse for my birthday.

Yeah. A satchel. That's cute. It's European. I like I like your guys friendship.

It's Gucci. I'm going to wear it. He was trying to teach you how to dance the other day. Yeah, man. Well, cuz I asked my kid to

teach me some of the young kid dances cuz as easy as they look, some of them are a little difficult to do. And like

I'm intrigued by it. So I ask my dad, "Well, you're taking the kids side in this Eminem beef right now. So now you got to learn how to do other dances."

Yeah. I'm with the kids. Yeah. So So I'm talking to my kid because little does he know, boy, me and his mom used to tear

it up on the dance floor. His mom's a dancer. I'm thinking he know how to dance. Guess what? He can't dance for [ __ ]

He don't know how to do the [ __ ] dances. So I had to ask Safari teach my kid.

No, to teach me. And of course he knew how to do all the little stupid kid dances. Of course he did. Anyways, let's

get back to where you were at. Oh, what you talking about? Eminem having the audacity to diss all the little kids.

Yo, [ __ ] don't have faith in your pen. M the nerve of Paul to come out. We

weren't dissing Drake. Oh, you worried now, huh? Yeah. I didn't listen.

Hey, you don't be [ __ ] now. Don't you be I didn't understand.

Let's play the fairy music, man. I didn't understand that. That bothered me. You can't be you can't be dissing Drake if you use the Drake song as like

your four songs album. Yeah, but it's at the same time. Oh, yes, you can. Be clear. He was dissing Drake. Cannibis and El beefed on the same

record. Who was he who else was he dissing? He was dissing. Lie to me now.

Lie to me now. He went that Drake. Come on. Of course he went everybody. But listen, this this this moment in

hip-hop right here is is when Rocky cut

the Russian and he started bleeding. This is what it is. This is like Oh [ __ ]

No, I thought he's human, too. It's funny you said that. I think this is like Rocky verse Tommy.

Wasn't that Rocky five? Yeah. When Rocky was still trying to show showy had a little something. Mhm. I

mean, I think he still won the fight, but we don't care about that. That [ __ ] Tommy, that white boy with them curls going to kick rocky ass.

Yeah. M, I know you don't know me very well, but not only do I think that a a bout between you and I would end

embarrassing for you, I don't even think there's a chance you would win it. I don't think there's one chance. And,

and I'm being 100% honest. So, let me get to my the end of my emotional roller coaster because this is when I was at my

crossroads. You big enough for me to respond to.

Oh, for sure. They don't get much. But I mean, be clear, Joe has never responded to [ __ ] because they were

famous, because they were big. Like, I know that that's how it's always looked, even with me and Drake. But I loved I

loved him then. Like, I'm going to always beef with like address [ __ ] that I love because that's when I have a

lot to say. When I said M has been my greatest case study, I've been watching M since 1996.

You got to be really careful with [ __ ] that's a fan of yours. I have a lot to

say and for me to think that he is incapable of saying very much, I don't

even really see how to contest this. I'm only not going because when I go

I mean there's a booth there's a booth right behind us mic set up.

Your engineer is right there. Y'all know me, right? Rory might not know me. Parks knows. I know you.

Might act like he don't know me. He knows what you mean. M knows. What you mean? When when when when I shoot,

I'm not just shooting at one [ __ ] I'm shooting at every [ __ ] I think

has an issue. And unfortunately, it's a few [ __ ] I think got a few issues.

So, I'm chilling. The end of my crossroads was this. Do we reply to somebody who is who is this big and

famous? Especially when we know our words hurt. Like, Joe's words mince. Them shits cut deep. And to a [ __ ]

that's already shown himself to be extremely sensitive versus a [ __ ] who's numb to everything. I just don't see how

it' be good for you. And I do care about you.

Well, I want to see it. I'm just putting that out there. True. I want to see the dance. I'll buy tickets to that dance.

Definitely. I' I'd wear my But if I'm at If I'm in Vegas, let me just say that I would put my money on you, though.

You know why it would be a quick dance? You know why it'd be a quick dance? I don't think he'd respond. He wouldn't respond.

Yeah, of course he would. He would ball up

like a [ __ ] do when he get punched in his [ __ ] ribs by a [ __ ] who has

punched [ __ ] in his ribs his whole career. And if you ask me, there was a

brief moment in time where Mariah had the upper hand on you.

You know, you know, you know what was funny? That was one thing that I was talking about with the homies. I'm like, yo, who has M ever really got into it

with? Hey, there was a moment in time where where where a jawline

Everlast it stung you a little bit and Everlast had the smoke for him.

I know you don't know about me. You better go check my [ __ ] car first, [ __ ] You better go ask some [ __ ] that's

close to you. I live for this type of [ __ ] and all of that rapidity rap

lyrical miracle [ __ ] Any [ __ ] who on it like that to think they want it

with me, I don't think you would. Farewell.

I also think it's really corny when retired [ __ ] pop [ __ ] about the what they would have, could have, would have

done. So

I feel like I'm in control of the rules here. M

I'm backed now. You're not so much. Paul is at Def Jam.

It even looks weird when Paul is tweeting us about Two Chains' album.

Y'all don't think that's weird. Paul, who has stayed with his [ __ ] mega star his entire career, not associating

with anybody, real [ __ ] bougie with his act cuz he's the best actor in the world. When he's not the best actor in

the world. Oh boy, you got a lot of promo for [ __ ] don't you, Paul?

It's time to show him proof. Hey, you know what I think is real funny, Paul? Before my complex job started, when I walked in complex and we

sat down for the screening the first time with me and AC know who I saw in Noah's office, you

know what I said to myself? Why is Paul in complex? That's weird.

That's odd. Great. He's cool with Noah. That's cool. Fast forward. Paul ends up giving Noah a

job at Def Jam. That's awesome. Know what I said to myself? Damn. I think Roy should have a job somewhere.

That's my opinion. That's my That's my opinion. Nobody get mad at me. It's only my opinion. But I just thought it was

telling. I'm taking a job at Complex. You up at Complex preparing for the job that you

about to take. Back to stock options. Oh [ __ ] Not only did Dre 50 and Jimmy left, Paul's leaving too. Know what that

means? Megastar man got to come up from out of that cocoon and learn some things. Now we're seeing you try to

adjust to the internet. Look weird. You're not doing it as well as Will

Smith. You look like the old uncool guy. Will

Smith looks a little cool still.

So, let me end this by saying this. Eminem, because I'm calling the shots here and and and because I'm better than

you and because I'm back now and because I'm empowered, because now both of us

are rich. hard to talk to rich [ __ ] a certain way when you're not rich.

But another thing I read is you'll never get rich if you don't act rich.

Boy, a lot of things I was saying back in the day sound brilliant now.

So you right and all along your album I hear you a common theme on your album talking about how you are not like

somebody. I find that to be interesting cuz on Slaughter Mouse I was saying how we're more like than we're different.

Never got a phone call from you about that. That's odd, too.

Little a little odd, but now here we are. So, let me end this with this. I know I've said this a lot. This is what

I'm thinking. M I'm retired and that [ __ ] that you spit was [ __ ] Not

getting out of bed for it. Now, you inspire me the way that my harsh

criticism inspired you. You go spit something to make the

superior MC me get out of his bed

because domestic violence bars are not going to do it. And I'm not MGK. I'm not

I'm not just jumping at the chance to respond to you. I know what you and Paul doing, my [ __ ] It's over. It's over

and you know it. And the second I thought that you didn't know it, and the second I thought it's impossible for him to be able to pull some type of creative

[ __ ] from [ __ ] less famous than him, I listen to your album and Stepping Stone. You confirm it for me. You say

it's over, dog. I tried to help [ __ ] I thought in my head it didn't quite work out as planned. I'm not charting

now myself. You tried to sing it, so you tried to hide it. You don't sound very confident. How can you also be that guy

and then stalk talk about how you not like somebody? You're right. You not like me. M I don't move nowhere without

my [ __ ] When I make a bag, my [ __ ] make the bag.

I'm looking around at [ __ ] close to [ __ ] I'm not judging [ __ ] as rappers no more. I'm past that. I'm

retired, baby. I'm judging [ __ ] as men. What kind of man are you?

Don't tell me on your album how much you love D12. When I look at Bizaar, he don't look like he's doing very well.

Tata looks great. Tata skin is glowing.

Hey, Jay Brown looks impeccable. B looks rather rather lather.

Hey. Hey. All Jay's career, all you ever do is talk about all the other [ __ ] he made millionaires. Let's talk about it,

[ __ ] to ver you to [ __ ] speak his name. You're not like him

and you not like me. No, no, buddy.

We're not the same. Ta looks great. We're not the same. Bas look great. No,

man. Royce looks great. Royce does look great. I have I factored that into my thinking

long ago. Do you know that Royce I love Royce like a brother outside of rap?

[ __ ] rap. I've seen Royce put his life on the line for me. I've seen Royce put his his career on

the line for me. Mhm. Now I because he was stubborn. Is it because he loves me? Who cares? But guess what? Joe values things that way.

Yeah, I appreciate that. I'm never addressing Royce ever. Anything I ever say, I'm not

addressing Royce. But it puts him and I in an interesting spot. You know what I mean? And that I won't talk about.

Sure. that I won't talk about. Um, oh, so my crossroads is this.

In the event that you want to address me, [ __ ] you'll do it outside of your album roll

out. Let me know that you mean it. Let me know that you really took some

time out of your day to go in the booth and address another [ __ ] when there was

no financial gain involved for you. I keep saying that. And the second that

you do it, I'm on your ass.

Hear me loud and clear. There we have it. I am going to cut your

[ __ ] ass up. And I've been waiting, baby. I thought

it was odd when I was asking around, sniffing around, asking people why you were always wearing Air Maxes. And the

answer I got was analytics. Huh?

Those tests better. It's the Yeah, y'all y'all laughing at me. Is that a great

I I had the same reaction. It's the same way that uh during the presidential election, the [ __ ] will go out there

and it's a big conversation about what color tie they'll wear. The therapist will tell you s certain colors and ensue

certain things and thoughts and feelings. Like that's why psycho people, they put them in all white rooms.

Presidents they wear I don't know cuz I'm not facteing here, but it's normally blue. I know what you're talking about. It's a color they don't wear. It's the color

they stay away from cuz it's bad. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's that's part of the reason that I know Drake is such a scientist because

mega stars are scientists. They're not doing music. Mhm. They can't. No,

it's too much on the line and they're appealing to too many different people. It's not about them anymore and they're

responsible for too much money. Drake makes a lot of money for a lot of people. M did too for a long time.

Right. Boy, my memory is bad. Anyway, I'm done with you, M. That was 101

minutes. to your ass. Get froggy outside of your album roll

out and I'mma learn you a [ __ ] good one along with some other people.

Period. Let's get some Uncle Charlie on that

right there, man. Definitely need that gap, man. Let's get Uncle Charlie going one time for the one times. We're going to slow

it down real quick. Keep the potato salad cool. Hey.

Uh, thank you. Yeah, that's my jam right here. Hey, I told

Spotify I need this record cleared for sure. Hey,

shout to anybody listening at work. Welcome to the Joe Button podcast. We are normally not that angry or aggressive. That only happens about once

every four months. Get yourself a drink. We still in good time. Good vibes out there, huh?

M you was dope when vibes weren't there. Like vibes changed everything, man.

Part of the barbecue after everyone fight and they trying to keep the party going. Yeah. I don't want to hear no rapidity

rappers when it's vibe time. I'm letting this rock for a little bit.

Sorry, Spotify. Hold up. It's our last week as free agents. If we can

what a pastor would say, look to your neighbor, to your left and your right, give him a hug, put your arm on his shoulder. Now we feeling good.

All right, that [ __ ] Why does that work every time? Why does Charlie make us feel so

can't be mad when you hear that? and not a smile on your face. Oh, that was great. That was a lot of fun. Well, I'm glad you got that.

I'll kill him, [ __ ] What's wrong? [ __ ] is wrong with him? The [ __ ] is wrong with him? I don't understand. Listen,

what a rapidity, [ __ ] [ __ ] listen, man. You know, it's like you

said, and that would be the greatest exclamation point on my career to just finish you. But off of beef for

a little bit, what I what I really think, and I'll say this in closing, M [ __ ] M [ __ ] now. I'm leaning I'm leaning

towards that too. I thought he should have a long time ago. We don't even have nowhere we want to listen. Don't announce this. Don't just go away

at the function. Just leave. Yeah. Don't Don't announce it. Just leave. Just stop playing. Just get out of here. Just Irish.

Well, go figure out something else. Bad me to evil the rest of your career. Yeah, cuz Royce will keep you in that

pocket. We like I mean the thing is his legacy is his legacy is solidified. I know.

So it's the more he does the more he tarnishes it. That's why I said he should have stopped six albums ago. Yeah. So just at this point it's kind of

like listen man it's all right we still love you. He could have Lord he held us.

I mean that's true. I was after Eminem show I was cool. I didn't need no more.

Yeah. He should stop now. He should stop. Like go out with honor.

Go out with honor by by dissing Joe again. Go out. No. He don't even know that

that's a problem he don't want. He don't even know that. I'mma learn him though. I'm That's I promise you. I probably him

and some other people. Uh, but let's get to MGK.

Yes, I don't have the record for that. Let's talk about it. I tweeted the white rapper Vortex is in

[ __ ] disarray and we need MC Search to make some type of sense. Yeah, we do need Search. We need Jojo Pelgrina. Like,

but I'm so happy. Hey, but you know what though? I'm happy it was another white boy.

I want to tell you why. White on white crime cuz white on white crime. Yeah. and coming off the crazy GE easy

battle. I like it, too. I'll be honest. I'll be honest. I'll be honest, you guys. I like it, too. I like I love it. I love that it's a

white boy that came out and said, "I'm sick of those sweatuits and those corny hats." Let's talk about it. Cuz I've

been sick of those hats for a while. I don't even know where you buy those type of hats at. I'm sick of him.

He's fed up. He's fed up. If a white boy from Cleveland is fed up with the look, like that's your demographic. It's like,

fam, it's it's so same neck of the woods. Yeah. Like I would that that's why the MGK record was so dope to me because I

couldn't believe it was him saying these things. I'm like MGK of all people.

Wow. He had some bars and it's a good record. Good beat. Quick nice flow.

Nice ho. I saw a few [ __ ] mad that M that uh MGK had recognized M as the goat. I

didn't see a problem in that. Why would he? I don't I didn't see a problem in that at all. Like M said, M [ __ ] is cemented

or his place is cemented. What what he's done is too great. Now, do some people want to say he has more bad albums than

good? Of course. Would it be valid? Maybe. Maybe it might be true, but I mean it

doesn't change what he did. Yeah. Last decade at all. And boy did he perform.

Mhm. Yeah. Like that's that's there already. If he get the [ __ ] out of here, I guess one of the comments or one of the sentiments in

MGK [ __ ] was, "Fam, we you're naming a bunch of [ __ ] that love you, right?" Like Tyler loves you,

right? True. And you so in a bubble, you saying that Tyler's trying to be D12. I can't even

believe that you credit that to D12 as if ODB never existed, right? Like facts. It's just a few things I'd be confused.

Yeah. Like what are you talking about? What do you really think Tyler the creator is trying to be like D12? Come on. Come on. Like somebody has to say

these things to you. But that's the problem. And I shouldn't be looked at as crazy when I'm honest. But it's because it's because of like

business. But it's because of the bubble that he's in. You know, he might really feel like that. Yeah. You know, and it's

not a it's not, you know, I can't be mad if he feels like that knowing the type of, you know, bubble that he's been in

for all of these years. It's like I can understand why he would feel like that. Maybe he it's just certain things that he's just not outside for and to feel

and to really know like, oh [ __ ] Yeah. Like they have more of an influence on

that than they did. But when you bubbled into your just your circle, of course you gonna just assume that, oh, you got

that from my man. Yo, and you know what the sad part is? And this is why I empathize with him. Let me say this and then I I'll get off

this cuz we've been doing this a long time. There's other [ __ ] to talk about. Part of me even deciding to retire

was based off of a lot of my conversations or a lot of the things that I was experiencing there, like some

of the talks that I had with him. Because in my head I was saying to myself,

this is the I'm looking I'm face to face with the top of the totem pole. There is no greater as far as

accomplishments. And he doesn't look happy.

Not only does he not look happy, he's a slave to his [ __ ] Not only is he

a slave to his own superstardom, he'll always be in a position where he

has to do it again. I was talking to a [ __ ] who sounded like they had to prove themselves again.

I was talking to a [ __ ] back then who sounded like they recognized they needed a hit again. That to me sounds like

running in place. If you're the greatest rapper in the universe and you sold the most records

in the universe, at what time do you find solace? Like, why? If you're always

put in the same exact position where you have to deliver, that's not

the life that I want to live. There's a lot of I'm done. I'm done trying to prove that

I'm the best rapper. I I I believe it already. Like, there's nothing I could

do anymore. It's over. I have I have to stop. So I I

credit I credit him with a lot of that. It just wasn't somewhere where I wanted to live. I want I didn't want Yeah, that

was scary to me. Damn, I had a point. Oh. Oh, that was my

point. I empathize a little bit because as an entertainer or as a creative or as an artist, you're always the last to

know. You're the last to know when you're hot.

The people are talking about you, deciding, determining that for you before you know anything. You're the

last to know when you're cold. You still think you on fire.

As an artist, you always have to be ahead of being the last to know. That's

why I retired while I was still competent, right?

I needed to go fight a different game. That wasn't the game. That wasn't where I wanted to be anymore. That wasn't where I wanted to be, but we going to

get back there. Uh, we going to get back there if [ __ ] uh act froggy.

All right, listen. All right, let's get back to the [ __ ] What else happened? And also, I really

like MGK [ __ ] too. I don't think Em's going to reply to him. He's definitely not. He ain't going to reply to him. So,

that's what I'm saying, my [ __ ] Like, you got some other [ __ ] to deal with before you just jump to the upper echelon of MC's after you ain't really

been the dopest MC for over 10 years. Come on, my [ __ ] Uh-uh. No. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Almost 10 years ago,

you was putting out an album doing the same thing that you're doing now, saying that the last album was garbage and this is why. I'm tired of that. I'm tired of

you coming out telling us why you garbage. Yeah, you just got to go sit down and be

garbage. Honestly. Honestly, since you want to take the K gloves off, go be garbage somewhere. Sit down. Chill out. Uh, all

right. What else happened in hip-hop? We did Made in America. We did Made We did M. Uh, we did more M. We did MGK.

Wait, so Wait, should G Easy be responded? Then he responded. Wait, G Wait, what?

He responded to MGK. No. No. Did he win? Yeah, I saw it uh this morning. I was

listening to it. Oh man, it's getting spicy out there with the white on white crime.

Well, not that spicy cuz it's white, but I like a little white on white crime for

seasoned. Yeah. Yeah. Unspicy. A little salt and pepper. Yeah. Yeah. It

could use a little old day or something. Uh I don't really want to hear any more about that beef.

I don't either. I'm glad that it shifted over to MGK and M. Um let's talk about Colin Kaepernick.

Let's Great job, Nike. Round of applause. Great [ __ ] job. Round of applause.

Round of applause. Smart. Smart job. Deserving job.

So, because y'all two say that, what do y'all say to the people that say that uh racism is a big business?

It is. Are we judging Nike for capitalizing on the business of racism?

This is my thing with uh anytime there's someone anytime someone is too late to the party or shouldn't be doing

something that is really a good thing. I don't have a problem with that. Yeah, I don't have a problem cuz even

ultimately is a good thing. Like, yes, you might be too late. Yes, it might be from the wrong messenger, but it's still

a good thing. And let's say that even is the case. It doesn't ne negate the fact that now

Colin Kaepernick is put in a position with people behind him, right? When he was battling the NFL by himself,

right? So, he has some money and some backing. Now, you can judge the intentions of the

move, but my only thoughts is now Colin Kaepernick has someone with him. Exactly. [ __ ] what their reasoning was. It's way

bigger now, right? This case is heating up. The case last week that we learned is uh

being allowed to move forward. What's that? Uh Colin Kaepernick versus the league.

Collusion. Yeah. When uh Goodell went went to whoever and said, "Yo, dog, dismissed that." And they was like,

"Nah, dog." They like, "Nah, no.

I'd like to meet those lawyers." No, no, no. That that's going to stay.

Um, and by Nike backing him, I would assume that there's a lot of people out there that believes he has a good good

chance to win. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Don't settle either. For sure. Don't settle. Don't settle out. Don't

No, don't don't settle. Don't take what they offer. Fight that [ __ ] I mean, you've been fighting. Keep fighting. Keep fighting a good fight.

Cap's a hero, man. He is 100% settling. He's come too far with this to

settle. Yeah. But that's why my stance is still [ __ ] the NFL.

Why? Because I have to I have to still stand with Kaepernick. I can't I can't just act like, okay,

that was a moment that happened. Now I'm back to just supporting the NFL. I can't do that because the risk that he take and the limb that he stepped out on was

too great. Like, so I can't just because time has passed and now let him fight that on his own personal time and

through the courts and all of that. Nah, [ __ ] the NFL. I'm still I'm I wanted to still be visible like yo I'm still

standing with this dude because I know how much it took for him to do that like

this he was fresh off a Super Bowl not two three years and let's point out I think a story was

floating around that before he even did that he went and talked to a military vet to

find out how how he should proceed and the vet said

I stand with that just take a knee Just take a knee. There's been a lot that will respect us. There's been a lot of vets that have

supported him. Yeah. Absolutely. You're doing the right thing. This is why this is why we fought. So you have the ability to do so.

Absolutely. Which is why I have to still continue to be vocal about my support. It's [ __ ] They're just trying to

get us away from the actual reason why Colin Kaepernick is kneeling. Absolutely. And it has nothing to do with the American flag or the military or the

war, right? Or what you guys have fought for, right? Uh I'll tell you what I did enjoy. I I

do enjoy all the fake Adidas ads. Those are great. I I got to be honest with you. I enjoy watching all

the Kanye one was very funny. Oh, I love it. I enjoy watching all the white people burn their $30 Nikes.

They wasn't even burning the hill the Kyres. They was burning the Nikes, man. You

know, you got to make people leave it. White people joints you get on the table at Dr. J's

with the plastic between them. Yeah, they burn them. Nobody want them. Sorry, Carter.

He burning some bullshits, make it out. Yeah. No, no way at all. Burnt those, too. And they wasn't the freshest. They was

dirty anyway. Exactly. That's what I was saying. Should have been burnt them bullshits. Mow the lawn, Nikes.

Right. Exactly. Run some errand, Nikes. Yeah. Get out of here, man. With your run some errands.

Run some errands. Sevens. Er, go pick up the kid eights. Get the

[ __ ] out of here, man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think Nike gives a [ __ ] that you burning some [ __ ] Uh, yeah. Yeah, but yeah,

you still bought that [ __ ] Nike don't give a [ __ ] what you do with them. You bought them. Listen, corporate wars, man. I' I've

I've been talking about it to the people that are watching intently. But I love how in my head anyway, somehow the Drake

Adidas uh roll out was foiled and now Drake will do all in his power to dead

Adidas. And Drake is powerful. True. I mean, the first thing he said coming off that whole [ __ ] was uh checks

over stripes. First verse. Well, clearly, even judging by this new him and French snippet that's come out,

clearly he's not finished. No, he's he's not done. See, that's how

these [ __ ] beef. And that's why Jay is is the greatest of all time cuz he invented the whole business beef to me.

Yeah. He was beefing with with people and you public [ __ ] would have never known a thing,

right? That [ __ ] hated painted ho behind the scenes, man. That [ __ ] ho was beefing

like a not a businessman. I'm a businessman. True. I hit him on business. Damn. That [ __ ]

was frustrated when he said I hit that damn beans.

Let me get my business. Damn. It's funny. Uh damn. What was I just talking about? We got Draco Adidas the [ __ ]

Oh yeah. So now, so yeah, Corporate Wars, Corporate Wars, uh,

Drake is taking the Kanye beef to another level because now this has turned into Nike versus Adidas.

So now the French snippet is out where Drake is saying, "What do you say, Rory? Are we on the 350s over here, my [ __ ]

That's not the wave." Keeping a G. I told her, "Don't wear no 350s." Aubry is keeping a G. Yo, or let's talk

about it. Aubry is keeping a G with you. So, first of all, when he sent Future

somebody to get the squad of chicks, let's picture it, cuz it was a squad.

Definitely was. It was a squad and the homies knew the one that Drake was targeting, right? And then they came over and one Drake

was targeting was wearing 350s. Ma'am, I'm need you to take those off. No. No. He said to her, "Yo, I'm going

to keep it a G." The exact line is how I Yo, my Don't wear those. Yo, get her some get

her some flipflops. Get her some of the o Jay's, please. I will not allow her to be in my presence

with this filth, right? You know, Drake called it filth for sure. Cuz he's cultured. Mhm.

Such filth. I love petty [ __ ]

Do y'all know that about me? I know. I know. If anybody knows petty [ __ ] you I'm not the only one.

No. No. You're not the only one. All right. Time out. Quick quick sidebar. before you got here, Maul

Parks, for some reason was watching Young Buck talk talking to his phone, addressing something, right?

Mhm. And I was saying to myself, that's the moment that things all went downhill

when real [ __ ] had to start talking at their phones. Mhm. Cuz like we never figured out a cool way

to do it. Like, how do you make it look gangster talking

to the phone, especially when you beefing and Yeah. Yeah. And America don't care about men, so they gave all of the cool

gadgets to the women to kind of help with like doing cool [ __ ] with your phone. Like the selfie stick.

Um Yeah. Women could get away with it. The little circle, right? The little has the little case that gives you the great

lighting. Yeah. Oh my god. Was that the cheat code? We can't have the

We couldn't use that. I wanted it, too. No, no, no. You can't. I mean, I wanted better lighting.

Yeah, but you can't do that. They sold me my They sold me my OLED TV from Best Buy by telling me about how the lighting

was wasn't in just one spot in the back. It was everywhere in the back. And that's why it's crazy. That's what that phone case did.

Yeah. That chick made a fortune and boogied on them chicks. She ain't even got one of her phone.

And the selfie stick. [ __ ] threw this [ __ ] away. [ __ ] start beating other [ __ ] up

with it. That [ __ ] was so big. They came out with fake selfie sticks. Like you had to get the official one.

Yeah. It was called Elfie Sticks. Take the the S at the gas station. Yeah, it wasn't the gas station.

Yo, a chick ever try to get y'all to use that [ __ ] The selfie stick? Yes. Don't lie. Hell no.

Asia definitely tried to get me. Come on. It'll be cool. No. It won't be cool. It won't It won't be

cool. Hope Lightning strike that [ __ ] when he holds it up. Yeah, 100%. Uh, okay. Back to me loving

Patty [ __ ] Back to that [ __ ] Drake snippet. I really like that when French and Drake

call each other, it's to diss someone. Yes.

Yeah. As as having been on the receiving end of that collaborative effort

and as having mismanaged the timing of the responses and all of that. Sometimes I go back to what if I had waited today

to just put the [ __ ] song out. I mean, then it' have been on and just put out wake. Yeah, I think some people probably said that in your

circle, but yeah, it's not like Yeah, I know this for y'all. I'm hard-headed. You got to be hard-headed to get to

certain places, though. You're right. Like, you got to be stubborn. Even in all the [ __ ] I've been saying about him, about me being better than him.

Like, certain [ __ ] you just have to have that stubbornness. Like, Kobe had to feel like he was the best [ __ ] ever.

Yeah. You You just had to. Um, where was I going? What was I saying before this [ __ ] Huh? Patty people.

Oh, yeah. I love that they do that when they get together. Y'all don't like that. Who? What? Uh Drake and French

when they call each other Drake getting off the spice. Yeah, for sure. Spice is coming. Somebody comment me

Drake. But who where's French? Something about French just brings it out of Aubrey, man.

And French be talking about [ __ ] He ain't dissing nobody at all. French be chilling with his tigers

and elephants. Yeah,

I'd be so jealous of these [ __ ] that they have tigers and elephants. I got to go home and hug my dog. I want a tiger, too.

Fresh just want to smoke. I've been wanting a tiger out back in my hookah days. I was like, that'd be dope if a lion was right here.

No, it wouldn't. No, it wouldn't. No, that'd be terrible. Brooklyn's bad enough. I thought that would have been swag. A lion.

I'm glad he's chilled out. Why with hookah? You don't think a chick would like a lion? No, not really. for like two seconds.

Chicks always like everything for two seconds. Yeah. Then it become a problem. Yeah. And then the other [ __ ] a hand

or a finger or something. Uh what else is really important that that has happened?

Uh well, speaking of Kanye with the 350 [ __ ] he I guess apologized. Oh my [ __ ] god. Jesus. We got a whole

podcast full of the spice. It's been a spicy week. I forgot Kanye went back to hang out with his old friends.

Is this the rebrand? Listen, man. The [ __ ] is this? The rebrand. Listen. Wait.

What the [ __ ]

Y'all don't see all the [ __ ] that's going on out there. God damn it. We're here to tell you.

But why do [ __ ] always want to go home? No. The go back home rebrand.

That's his only option right now. He He probably went to Harolds, got some chicken. like he went all the way back.

He can't go back to Chicago. Yeah, but come on. Don't Don't do that. After I know they killed him, after everybody turned their back on you

consequences there. That's what I'm saying. It's funny when Consequence and GLC you going you going back to the squad.

Boy, them [ __ ] is real [ __ ] for just having open arms and loving their brother. Loving their brother. Shout out

to black men loving black men, man. I unconditional love. Welcome your brother

back. Help him out. I'm all for you guys' end. Jesus Christ. I don't really think it should be

marketed and promoted until y'all get a hold of things, right? I don't think they're the type to market and promote it anyway.

They all They all pose for a picture. That's all they did. Consequence didn't look happy about it. They didn't.

Oh, that might have been just his face. And I'm not trying to shoot Consequence. If you hear this, [ __ ] be listening now.

My phone's been listening to you. No. And I'm just saying [ __ ] is listening. phone. Don't think that's scary that that you

you never know who's listening. I kind of like that. That should be kind of wild when I be

freaky. I like that. First of all, freaky Bronx [ __ ] Crazy

disrespect going. That's some disrespect mystery. That [ __ ] freaky ass form [ __ ] Freaky Bronx [ __ ]

Yeah, [ __ ] [ __ ] out of here. Cedric head ass. Hip hop was born in Cedric face ass

[ __ ] Freaky Bronx [ __ ] That is kind of funny. Uh, all right. What was you just

talking about? Rebrand. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You went back home. You can't go back home.

Hey, I wasn't When I saw that picture, I was like, "All right, I know a rebrand when I see it. Knock it off.

That ain't going to work. That ain't going to work. That ain't going to work. Ain't going to work." Yeah. He got a new sneaker coming out. He got That's what it is.

Yeah. He trying That [ __ ] got to go sneak in Kylie's room

and find that Travis demo. It's in there. I'm telling y'all, there's some

[ __ ] Travis got his Yo, he got his future wave in Kylie's room somewhere. You can get that [ __ ]

man. Yeah, you better go get it. You better go get it. Better go get it. How many more albums y'all think he got

in him? Yeah, Kanye. He'll be around for a while. Yeah, he keep doing this seven song [ __ ] He got 10.

True. I don't think he's going to do that. I don't think that I think that was a deaf jam. As much as he keeps pumping like this

[ __ ] worked and that he sold well, that was a bad mistake. Yeah, he knows all that [ __ ] was trashing. Can't tell my homeboy Eminem that he

love he think that was the greatest album of the year. Yay. Yeah. Nah.

Who? Wait, who was your homeboy? We have this argument almost every day. He thinks Eminem.

He thinks that he I don't think it was that terrible. It wasn't terrible. I don't think it was a good album at all. It wasn't terrible.

I'm only judging by Kanye. Kanye West. It was terrible. It wasn't a good album for Kanye West. It wasn't

even in the top 15 albums. No mistakes is the only song I think I could listen to again. And I don't even listen to that. whichever the one that

had char. And that's because Tadalan is singing his [ __ ] in it. Yeah, I love him.

Todd dollar sign. He can't do no wrong. Yeah. Um, did y'all Of course y'all saw uh

Well, did Mo and Joe, do you accept his apology? No. No. Cuz I know it's only because he's trying

to sell something. Yeah. I'm I'm not rolling yet. Either the flip flops the big the flip flops he trying to sell or the new the

new So, you don't think it was genuine at all that he feels like he hurt black people? No. No. Okay. cuz I don't feel like he really

apologized. Number one, well, he didn't say what he was apologizing for. He just said all of that was [ __ ]

No, he went up there with his crew and said, you know what it is. That's his apology. I think he need to go and get with his people that that he love and that love

him and that have his best interest at heart. All of those people in that room, I feel like they they fit check those

boxes. And he shouldn't be seen or heard from until something occurs like we have to stop

hearing from him now. And that's okay. That's fine. I'm more he got to show I got to just watch him. I got to see his

action and his movements and listen to him and that's how I'll know if this is sincere. But just because you went back

to Chicago and went to a radio station and got some of your uh crew from the beginning of your career with you and

took a picture, that doesn't say that you're sorry. I think John Monopoly is managing him again. Yeah, he went back in the picture.

That's the reset button. It's the rebrand. Yeah, I'm not mad at that though. I'm not mad at I'm not mad at the rebrand, but

And if it's genuine, it's right. It's the reason for it. It's like you only Kanye only speaks to us

when he's trying to sell something. I don't even That has to be the first time he was back in Chicago in how many

years. This whole [ __ ] that's going on in Chicago with all this violence. I haven't seen and and I could be wrong.

Maybe he's doing [ __ ] behind the scenes he doesn't want to make public. I don't know. But I'm just saying I haven't seen

anything of him being in the streets, being on the grounds, talking to the youth, doing this, doing that in Chicago

ever. So, I mean, don't try to just sell me the new Yeezy and go to a radio

station say, "Yeah, I worded it wrong. I shouldn't have said it like that." You didn't word it wrong because I have sandals to sell. No word.

Yeah. Don't I'm I'm not You more than worded it wrong. Yeah. I don't care about sneakers that much. I'm sorry.

Yeah. Damn. Now I'm sad again. What you sad about, man?

It don't matter. I'm going fix it right now. What you sad about? Yeah. Why y'all [ __ ] keep making me

sad? No, man. That wasn't a sad I got to say. Yes, it was, man. Cuz I I like those sneakers, but nah.

Do you like the Japanese uh sandals? You going to rock those in the crib? I can see you in those.

I'm sure this is kind of cool right there, though. You could see me in those. Shut up. It's your swag.

I would wear them if they weren't by which a heel over the back of the sandal.

Well, Kanye said that that's culture. That's right. Okay.

Japanese culture, but culture yet and still. So, listen. Homeboy from the Cosby Show. What was homeboy's name? Jeffrey. Not

Jeffrey. The neighbor Osborne. What was the [ __ ] name? That was caught bagging up the groceries and the picture came out and everybody was sad cuz we love

that [ __ ] on the Cosby Show and now you're backing up groceries. There's nothing wrong with bagging up groceries. Yeah, man. I hate that. Well, it depends where he's bagging

groceries up at. Yeah, he was at a Trader Joe's, right? It's a solid supermarket. Trader Joe's is hard. I work there for the discount.

Smells great in there. Finally, a conversation of some substance. Yeah. Where are we ranking Trader Joe's in the

uh boutique market? It's up there cuz it's not too bougie,

but it's still better than the They got cheap ones. Trader Joe's. Trader Joe's is up there, my top three.

They got fancy soap. Yeah, that's top three. Like anywhere where you could buy some some almond milk and fancy soap,

right? Their their cookie selection is is is ridiculous. Yeah. All right. So, what what's number one,

though? Is crazy. Huh? What's the number one grocery store? Uh, Rachel.

I mean, you would probably have to put Whole Foods up there. 100% Whole Foods is up there. Publix. Maybe

Publix is really good. I wish we had a [ __ ] Publix. White. We already brought this up before. Which? Oh, yeah.

We still got to stick to our our roots with Seat Town and Keyfood. Absolutely. You go in there and get that old chicken if you want.

No. No. What's the [ __ ] over here? Keep taking that stick off that chicken and putting a new one on. No. What's the [ __ ] over here where you

got to be a Not Sam's Club. There's another one over here where you got Aldi.

Yeah, it's Costco. But those are like warehouses. Like you want mayonnaise for the next two years.

DJ I bought a jar of mayonnaise out of Costos and that [ __ ] is still in there. And that was 09.

Still good though. Yeah. It's still good though. Still fresh. Yeah. But I I'm the [ __ ] that wants mayonnaise for the next two years.

I like I was raised to believe there's a few things that I'm judging you if you don't have in your household. And

mayonnaise is one. Sure. Garbage bags is on there. Dishwashing detergent. Oh my. I mean,

palm olive or some [ __ ] You ain't got that, my [ __ ] One uh two ply toilet paper. You ain't got that. Come on, fam.

Like, how we living? Like, you got to spend the extra dollars on things that matter. Yeah. Thin toilet paper ain't,

man. Go to Costco and strap the [ __ ] uh two years of mayonnaise to the top of

the trunk and go home. Yeah. You got to clear out the whole trunk. Yeah. Make a second trip, go back, get

the rest of your stuff. Start asking [ __ ] if they want sandwiches for no reason. Like just to get rid of that. Are you a sandwich? I'm a nasty [ __ ] I'm going in there

getting the mayonnaise and a little 32 in for the bathroom.

That's a gross That is a That's a gross shopping cart. That's a nasty cart. Hey, wait. You ever

try to be the [ __ ] to get one over at the register like use your dad's Costco cart or some [ __ ] Boy, is that a

nerve-wracking time. Like this ain't this ain't true. Yo. Uh, when you was born, my jeans. I like

get out. Yo, do me a Yo, do me a favor. Put the mayonnaise on the TV back.

Yo, put the mayonnaise back in 32 and the TV and the TV back where it belongs. A sick ass shot.

Funny [ __ ] You get to the register at Costco. It's the the a cop waiting there for you, too. Like, I dare you. Try to

take the mayonnaise and the TV. Like, I dare you. A [ __ ] getting a mayonnaise and TV in the

same day. Crazy. The [ __ ] is going on? Mayo. I need a new Where you going, bro?

I'm going to run out to get mayo on the TV. Yo, I know I know y'all laughing. Y'all going to be so mad when y'all go to make

some [ __ ] Ain't no mayonnaise. Yeah, cuz but you know what? You know what the thing about mayonnaise is? You know when

you're running out. So, it's like you got time, but you got a new

through the through the jar. Sometimes it looks like it's no black [ __ ] feel

like they could get the edge of the butter knife to last another week. Hey, you got to really

What? Yo, that's smart. We never thought of that. Black people that's white people always use a spoon.

That's the That's the That's figured out a few things before us. The spoon. Apple pie.

White people they weapon of choice is spoons. That's what they use. I mean, it's a versatile uh utensil.

Y'all don't remember when I was running around trying to figure out I was trying to figure out stereotypes, right? So, I

know all the black stereotypes cuz I'm black. I think it was Rory I was asking about or Parks like what would be the

what's some of the white stereotype like I don't know what people what society attaches to white people. I think Parks

is the one that told me apple pie was one. Yeah. Tuna casserole. Tuna casserole.

Definitely. What white people got? Y'all ain't got potato salad. Pumpkin pie.

Y got pie. We got mad pies. Yeah. Y'all cherry pie and pumpkin pie bacon [ __ ] That's what I do.

I can see why white people was mad. Yeah, I can see why. We was over there with flavor.

Y'all got pumpkin pie. We got sweet potato. Like

white people love sweet potatoes, too. But they try to make it. They try to call it something else, but they [ __ ] it up and

they just go and they just make it with the pumpkin. They like, "Listen, let's just stop. That ain't pumpkin, [ __ ]

Yeah, white people definitely go to the black house and try to slide the pumpkin pie between the sweet potato pie. Like,

we know the color. Get that out of here. That's pumpkin, my [ __ ] That ain't sweet potato. Get that off the table, my

[ __ ] That's I love my wife, though. That's kind of funny. We have a lot of dips, too.

Oh, yeah. Y some funny. Y'all do them dips. Very social in the community. We can all

come together. That's why I'll never understand racism, cuz we need each other. We do. Like you think I want to live a

life without dips? Yeah. I think rice rice could get us all together. Rice could save the world.

All together every stop doing white people [ __ ] or you

can't claim rice. That's white people definitely cannot claim rice. Rice. I'm saying we everyone

in the world loves rice. I'm not saying who. You're right. But don't try to claim it. Give them give them their props.

Give them their props. Give people their props. I ain't trying to take rice away from [ __ ] All right.

We all love our take America. Now y'all want to take rice. Going to take it all.

Y took America. Stereotype. Go try to take rice. I ain't going to lie. I'm

with Rory though, man. I love rice. [ __ ] the [ __ ] Every single culture eats rice. Bring us

all together. Yeah, I agree. I'm so trash. I love just white ass rice.

Yeah, but white people rice is different. Y'all y'all just take butter and put it in white rice. Yeah,

that's trash. That's bomb. I like butter in my rice. No, not white rice. Yeah. No, I can't remember the last time I ate

just white rice. I'll get you with some Chinese food. No, I eat rice. But just plain white

rice. I get some sesame chicken. You got some white. You got some stew chicken sauce on top of that or

something. Just white rice and butter. I'm not eating that. Just by itself. That's how you know somebody poverty

meal. Yeah, but I'm at I'm at a age now I don't have to eat that. Like no, no, no.

I'm not doing that. Reheating white rice. Give me some rice and peas. Some yellow rice. Like you ain't going to get just give me plain white rice and tell me put

some butter on it. Yo. Oh, Mo is so funny.

Yo, I love when I remember something about Mo. Oh god, here we go. Yo, you know why Mo's I'm sitting here listening to this

[ __ ] talk about stew chicken and all [ __ ] and I'm thinking to myself, say, "Yo, Maul is, you know, you could just

tell when a [ __ ] got somebody in his family that gets super busy in the kitchen. They start talking about [ __ ]

like stew chicken and [ __ ] All the [ __ ] that Maul just said. So, as I'm thinking about that, I'm thinking about when I

lived with Maul. Maul definitely used to dip out on the holiday and be like, "Yo,

I'm going through my sister house. You want me to bring you back? Yo, I'm going over.

You got to make your I'm going over to mom's. You want You already know I'm down. You want me to bring some back?" At

least I'm like, "Yo, I'll bring something back." Well, I want you to bring something back. Yeah. I'll bring some back.

Yeah. No, when mom's cook, I got to break bread. I got Yeah, more family could cook a little bit. I'll even give you the foil in the

plate. Oh, yeah. For sure. I appreciate that. Yeah. But then it's finicky. It's a little phony because mom know what his

family could cook good. So now it's only like a little bit of greens. It's like a corner of greens. Like come

on my greens. Go first. Let me see your plate.

Instagram. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like my plate. Yeah. Now, now I got to be the duck [ __ ] to steal my girl greens.

And put it all in one plate. That's a fact. Before she see it. That's a fact for sure.

And then eat it before she Yo, your girl going to let you get it. You got to get it from her. All right, come on. Let's get back to dissing

[ __ ] Let's get back to dissing [ __ ] We went off for a food tangent

and I'm having a blast. Well, speaking of food, what happened? I don't really eat breakfast, but

Oh, speaking of food, damn, I will beat you. This is

you food, [ __ ] Anyway, all right. Now, what was you saying? I know. So, you know, I caught your uh your little interview.

I caught it, too. You know, I don't know if anybody else caught it. I caught it. Rory, did you catch it?

I did. Okay. Right. Right when it dropped, actually, because I support my friends and I couldn't wait to see Joe talk

about his new venture with the Breakfast Club. H that's interesting.

Were you on an emotional roller coaster when you saw it? Were they fickle? Were there feelings everywhere?

Little Shiggy action. Not at all. Shiggy action. Yo, I'm so tired of Shiggy being

everywhere. I need Shiggy to go home. Yo, why was Shiggy in Philly playing ball with Rory and Meek?

Shy can't pull. Come on. Hey, Shiggy. Hey, I'm not dissing you, so don't come up to me and try to stuff me. But you just watch

[ __ ] sometimes be like, "Damn, that [ __ ] moving around. I'm tired watching." Did you see the latest one of him at the Drake show?

That [ __ ] was trying to come up with new moves. He was She was sliding on his knees.

Jiggy has to snuff Aubrey. Honestly, he got him out there doing the dance like you It's tough to do the same

dance every night, man. You got the hit song to rely on. I'm up here just dancing away. Shiggy going to do that [ __ ] every night

if Drake and Shiggy as he should. Shiggy used to that Vine 6second [ __ ] That song is about 3 minutes long.

Yeah. Oh [ __ ] Can I make a confession to you guys while we're on this topic of [ __ ] [ __ ] with internet fame? You

know what I'll be doing now? You know whose page I'm glued to and I get mad at myself for being glued there? Oh god.

I blame Revolt. They keep posting these [ __ ] I I followed them.

Wasn't the kid the whiz. You know him? Oh, that is uh I might be saying it wrong.

He just does he does a bunch of tricks with his hat. Like sounds pretty cool. No, he be killing that [ __ ] with his

hat, man. I swing a kid that does tricks with his hat. It's called Showtime. It's on the train like Yeah, [ __ ] You know, you can't do it.

They be on the train and they be b All right. No, I know they be on the train. Well, yeah. One of the guys that be on the

train, he has a Oh, he's famous now. No, I'm not saying famous, but Instagram account. They they they they running

around dancing everywhere and they getting on the A train between 59th and 125th.

I see seven of them guys. But I be watching homeboy's uh girl is pregnant. So like they be doing a lot of

the cute dancing hat flipping to her and her flipping the hat to him. And as a

[ __ ] that can't dance, I'd be glued watching that [ __ ] I be like, "Hey, wish I could flip my hat to

sin." That would be a hilarious video of you trying a fitted or a fedora man going to catch

[ __ ] I wish I could flip my hat to Yeah, I want flip my rock nation. Get that [ __ ] hit the ground like the

[ __ ] are you doing? No, trying single. I'mma flip my rock nation ass. She going to be trying to get a deal.

She want to catch that [ __ ] and start singing. Uh, do I want to kill Rory about that

Jay-Z picture some more though? It's up to you. No, nothing you could do to kill me for that one. Yeah, true. I don't blame you. Yeah, I

want a picture with all. You're just jealous. Yeah. I want to kill you about that Breakfast Club interview. All right. So, let's talk about it.

Let's talk about Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. I still Y'all saw it. Y'all Y'all saw it. [ __ ]

had a little spice for y'all cuz y'all whack. I let [ __ ] talk. I let them say what

they Let me Let me say something. I'm I'm so glad you let that just go.

Like, you didn't stop anything. I'm I'm Thank you for that because I I wanted it to go exactly the way it did. on. I'mma

do it. So, so what can I do on somebody? Like, you got to play this corporate wars. You got to let people rock on your

platform. I get it. I get it. I, you know, I understand. But it's just like, let's dissect a little bit though.

Just just for starters. So, y'all watched it? Yeah, I had to. Yeah, we were here to support our

friend. Let me Let me Let me just say if anybody Yo, Joe, we could Maul and I could be replaced by anybody in the show is

successful. So, I wasn't expecting anyone to talk about me for 25 [ __ ] minutes on a interview. Yeah. Was that said?

That was said. Yes, that was said. Yeah, that was said. You guys are not professional. So, so that's I'm I'm a little curious.

I don't believe that. Why would you talk about somebody that could be replaced for that long? I certainly don't think that I'm the only attraction here.

The thing the thing is this is the thing, right? I love when there's I

Oh, there's because everybody's asking telling me, "Yo, you know, you said the Breakfast Club was okay, cool." So, yeah. You got to respond to that before

you can provide smoke. Absolutely. Cuz Charlamagne did tell me to tell you that. Yeah. Okay. So, this is the

response. When I said the Breakfast Club was over, did I mean that the Breakfast Club would

no longer be on air? Did I Did I think the radio station would be empty? Did I think that they wouldn't be on YouTube

anymore? No. When I said the Breakfast Club was over, I meant their impact is not the

same. Nobody looks to them for information and the cool [ __ ] That's

what I meant by it was over. those th that the the lore that was there at one point is no longer there.

And Charlemagne would respond to you by saying they're syndicated in 800 markets and all this other [ __ ]

See, when a [ __ ] start going to numbers, you know what that tells me? What? You reaching? I don't care about

numbers. I know when I walk outside and I ask [ __ ] when the last time they watched The Breakfast Club, they can't

answer me. I know that that's one of their one of their most highest viewed shows as of recently because you hot and

you on there. So what is and and let me point out to any of you

people out there checking the velocity rates that Joe was providing out here that was a million in a day. I'm not the

numbers guy. No, but they're the numbers but no I'm not the numbers guy. They're the numbers guy cuz I just learned that.

They're they're the numbers guy. I just learned that in ad world that's important. Sure. Of course. Yeah, but

how fast can you hit certain benchmarks? But they they play the numbers, which is why they invited you and anybody else

that goes viral. Well, no, this I was contractually obligated to be there. Of course you are. By by.

Of course you are. But what I'm saying is I'm addressing it meaning that it's over for that.

It doesn't have to. What do you have to say to Charlemagne when he says when he

talks about the difficulties of doing and some of the pitfalls that you face trying to do something for eight years

in a row? They've been rocking for eight years. Salute to that. I I salute that.

I'm not saying at one point they weren't hot. I'm saying now today

it's not the same. Nobody ain't checking for that like that. That's all I'm saying. And that's not a knock on any of

them. It's run its course though. So now the people are looking for they're looking at new channels, new areas now.

Like, okay, we get it. We know what that is. Like, salute. Yeah, but they still here rocking like it's not over.

That's what you say. That's what you say. You say it's over. Over. I say it's over. Impactful. Impactfully.

It's over. And then Charlemagne says some other things. He would never sit down with me and Rory because we're inexperienced. Charlemagne, you've sat down with

inexperienced people before. In fact, you've given inexperienced people an opportunity. And every nigga's inexperienced until he gets experience.

So, what exactly was you trying to say right there? Yeah, when he said it in that tone, I didn't take that as a slight at all.

I I think why this works so well is because we're a bunch of friends kicking it that are inexperienced and don't try to do the radio [ __ ]

This is It goes back to That's important to say. It goes back to what Joe just said. So, I I don't understand your tone.

[ __ ] can't rap like M. So, we going to find another way, right? I can't interview like

it's a similar parallel. Larry King. I can't interview like Howard Stern. Mhm. That's not what I'm trying to do,

right? But you ain't going to tell me that I can't sit down and have a conversation that people are not going to be entertained by,

right? I've been I've been I've been having conversations my whole life. I don't need experience with having a

conversation with somebody. I know how to talk, right? But these industry [ __ ] they'll make it seem like their job is more difficult

than it is to keep the real cool [ __ ] out, though. See, I know what that play was about. Mhm.

He understand that there new cool [ __ ] coming into this into this area. So now it's like you going to try to put these

walls. Oh, you know, you inexperienced. Why would I sit down with you? Oh, you was inexperienced at one point, Charlamagne.

Why would somebody want to sit down with you? And I will say that's one of the things I big up Charlammagne about is that is

the fact that he gives chances to people that I love that are not experienced. I love that. So, you can't really it's

not on his side yet. You know, I couldn't really say it up there, but and I'll let Rory speak more to this on on

when he sees fit, but like you can't say some of the things that you were saying, Charlmagne, about my [ __ ] and then

your [ __ ] be your [ __ ] But this that's my thing. All right, Charlamagne, I have no issue anyone ever

saying, honestly, let's talk about it. I have no issue with any black person saying they don't want a white person to talk about the culture.

I have no issue with that at all. But I do keep that same

consistent energy because you've been doing that very [ __ ] thing since 2014 once a week.

Cursed that [ __ ] It's hypocritical. And maybe he was

joking. No, but see my thing is But it it makes no sense. You do it every single week. My thing is I just don't understand why

Charlemagne has a problem with me or Rory or whoever being honest and

being, you know, brutally honest at times and saying what they feel when that's how you built your name at the

Breakfast Club. You were an honest guy. What did he say he had a problem with y'all being honest? No, but that's what it is. Because I

said that his shows was whack on MTV 2. I know what the real issue he has. I know what the It ain't about me saying

the Breakfast Club is over. It's not about that. He didn't like when I said that the shows on MTV 2 were trash. But

my thing was if they weren't trash, they wouldn't have canceled the show. All right. So, let me let me play

devil's advocate. Sometimes shows get cancelled for other reasons. Trash shows get cancelled. Great shows

don't get cancelled. And if they get cancelled, it's not that quick. Okay? They'll have some years before it's

like, "Okay, we kind of lost the steam. It's over." I never judge a [ __ ] for for trying. And I'm not mad at him for trying. I'm not

mad at that. I'm just saying that wasn't it. You can't take dudes from the computer that you think are cool online

and then put a camera in their face and then when it doesn't translate, it's like, damn, we really don't got nothing.

That's all I'm saying. Like, it was a great Cool. You gave [ __ ] a shot. it it missed.

I'm not knocking him for giving nobody opportunity. I love that about him. Put [ __ ] on. Give [ __ ] a shot. But then

don't sit somewhere and say you're not going to sit down and have a conversation with me cuz I'm inexperienced.

I've sat down and had conversations with greater people. It may not be on the web,

right? But you walk in some of these rooms, same [ __ ] you salute and you that. Oh, me and them [ __ ] kick it all the

time, right? M I'm just not a camera in the face and take a picture with a phone ass [ __ ] That's not the game. I don't play that

game. I don't play that game. This podcasting thing for at least us in

this zoo genre of like rap podcasting. We're all inexperienced. This is not radio.

Exactly. This is completely different. We are all inexperienced. I never wanted to be a radio dude. I'm

not trying to be a radio dude. Rest in peace combat jack. Hold your head text on.

Right. We in an era where we're all inexperienced. But that's the beauty of this [ __ ] Yeah. Cool. Herk was

inexperienced when he created hip-hop. When he threw a party in Cedar Park, he was inexperienced. You understand

what I'm saying? So, we going to get we going to talk about this inexperienced [ __ ] because I I I know the games that dudes play. You not You don't got the

experience. You How much experience does it take to to sit down and have a conversation with somebody?

Where do I go for that experience? And Char makes defense. He does do that very well. I'm not saying he does, but you're not gonna tell me that I'm

inexperienced, right? Because I don't do it on camera. Well, no. Let me be the first first one

to say when I was trying to short Maul and the money I felt he was deserved, I was rather shocked when I looked at the

amount of time he's actually been on his pocket. I can't short him.

Like, he's been there. Like, it's been over two years, man. Like, got to pay him.

So, that's experience is what I'm saying. like it may not be as uh you

know when I got my start at Hot 97 and in 19 and you did a great job. Did you

have experience before that? I no I had no experience at all. It took a lady with some foresight and vision to

say yo I know you've never done this before. I know you can't do you I know you have no experience but go jump

behind that mic. I think you'll buy this [ __ ] And that's what happened. You can't do anything until you do it. True. Fast forward to how many years

later and rap really ain't what Joe's doing. It's broad broadcasting. You got to be careful with people to get you

away from what your fate is. Yeah. And and and and you know, and let me let me just be clear. I don't have

any issues with Charlemagne. I just want to put that see people online. We got to be I don't have to address what was said.

I just didn't I didn't like that inexperience word because to me that inexperience word is you trying to

downplay what me and my friends have built here and what we're doing here.

Don't try to downplay it. I don't I don't I don't care how much you try to throw that inexperienced word out there.

You can't downplay that. You know what I mean? Like people people stop me in the streets and let us know what we doing that they love it.

Let me interrupt you for I'm cool with that. Let me interrupt you for for a minute. Uh cuz the same way that people

are real excited about the extra markets that that they're in like in this

country, right? We're we're global.

There's another thing. Here's another thing. Like, here's another thing. I know you're real excited. Let me shut

up. It's real. I'm just being honest, man. So, I'm just

I'm just burying that, man. I don't have no issues with nobody. I love everybody. Y'all thought I was bad before.

All right. So, outside of Charlene, I was going to tell the whole envy story, but I'll keep it short.

Don't be spicy, bro. Because he Well, he lied. the salt and pepper. Envy said I was mad I couldn't go up to

the breakfast club. Mhm. Envy, me and Charlemagne laughed in our DMs about the whole thing

cuz we had no idea what the [ __ ] you were talking about. And then Charlemagne asked you the question. You didn't even know what the

[ __ ] you were talking about. Oh, you're never going to Breakfast Club now. Don't want to.

Breakfast is overrated. I'm telling you, I love breakfast. cuz I'm mad I didn't and why I thought I was comfortable in hitting Charlemagne to go up to the

Breakfast Club. We You just saw me in LA and he got me twice. Oh, I'm hitting a gunshot for Rory on

that one. Anytime a [ __ ] hit the You just saw me twice in LA at the Kappa party. Me, you, and Lenny S.

Oh y next day at the beach party. Easy. I'm going to get to that point, too.

That's nasty. But whatever. Do we rock out? Envy, I heard your white kappa comment. You didn't say that because of the white

part. They told me what happened in Hampton. I'll leave it at that. Yo, anytime a [ __ ] refers to a story

none of us must know about. I'll give a gunshot for that. I'll give him two.

That was three or four. This fraternity beef. I wish I knew something about campus. Like that sounds that sound.

We so stupid. Rory said that. Rory put some zest on that one. That's how I know it's a

that's a bar. If I knew something about campus, I would know. He knows what I'm talking about. Only envy needs to know that I know.

I don't need to tell y'all. Oh, you and I know what's going on. Pock said that. But you know what?

I think you should know what [ __ ] is just teasing and being disrespectful. He was teasing you for wearing a white jacket on the view

along with the rest of the world. Where you from? You know when someone's being disrespectful and just teasing. Is that what he was mad about?

I think. No, he said he was mad at morning. I don't do that. He said the other thing he was mad

before. No, I said Envy was the A mic of the Breakfast Club, but when it comes to interviews, we just want to hear from Charlamine.

Anyway, envy, you shouldn't be that sensitive for someone that's replaceable on a podcast, right?

Yeah, that's So, why are you in your feelings over that? In your defense, I don't think you're replaceable. I don't think I am at all. I would hate to replace either of you. I

think it would be trash. There you go. I love you guys. I I just wanted to speak on that. So, I don't have no beef with

And contrary to whatever Charlamagne said, that [ __ ] podcast is about to be dead in about a week and a half. Yeah, the writing's on the wall. I see

it. I love I love you, Charlamagne. You and Andrew, I can see it, bro. I I said that and nobody addressed that.

Come on. You got to come clean, y'all. Man, come over. Come clean. Your body and your radio career career, your body in your author career. You got to just

come clean now. You picked the bad holes for your podcast. And ain't it We don't want to hear your white friends talk

about hip-hop. Don't talk about my white friends. My white friends is kind of thorough, my [ __ ] Your white friends a little finicky, a

little little bland. Little bland, but shout out to Andrew. Um,

no. Once Charlemagne got that book thing, which was amazing, but once you become like a New York Times bestseller,

you're shifting in your career. He'll be rich forever off that. He could write books forever now. That's why I

know the podcast isn't at his top priority because he's doing so many other dope things. Oh, speak speaking of that real quick.

Let me re rewind. When I was talking about the Cosby Show, dude, I failed to mention that Tyler Perry has given him a

job. Huh? Who's Charlene? Boy, that's hard.

Yeah, that's dope. Thought that was the right sound effect. Not Charlemagne. [ __ ] uh the Cosby

Show, dude. Like Jeff Owens. Yeah, Jeff Jeffrey Jeffrey Ow. He gave he gave him a job. I thought that was super great. I thought that was really

dope with Tyler Perry. Uh shout out to him. Uh that Yeah, I want to say before I forgot that song.

Oh, I'm done. Shout out to both of them. I like both of them. I grew up on Envy's mixtapz. Love. Shout out to Angel. He's

an associate. See, I start with love. You guys end with love. Yeah. It was always I didn't have no problems

with no I never had problems ever. I just didn't like that. I just didn't like that that bar he he wrote.

I like my way better. I ain't like that. I ain't like that. I like starting with love and then then turning up. All right. Lastly, well,

maybe not lastly cuz this has been long pocket. God damn. Sorry.

They're not. Have some [ __ ] to get off my chest, guys. Uh Power finale. This this weekend, right?

No. Last weekend. It happened. That was the very last episode of Power. No. No. Oh, no. Yeah, it's coming up this

weekend. This weekend. This weekend. Yeah. There's only one left. One left. One left. This weekend coming up.

Can we talk about Insecure after we talk about Power? Sure. I'm starting to learn some things. Okay. Go ahead. Talk about Power.

Uh, Rock is going to die. It's over. Yeah, man.

Think it's over for power? I think it is. I've been saying that for two years, but it is. I'm not Yeah, but we held on cuz we love I won't

I won't be tuning back in. I won't. Honestly, I'm not No, I'm done. I don't care about ghost. I don't know if they're getting eight

bucks a month for three months for me again. Yeah, I definitely caught files like uh

so I get the [ __ ] off my TV St. Patrick the 24.

Oh, that reminds me when I was trying to figure out how to unpave some of those only candy girls.

What's that little site they be using? Yo, what's wrong with you, man? I had to follow by mistake on some of

this [ __ ] By mistake. Oh y'all [ __ ] ain't giving [ __ ] they money was worth.

Why I'm following this [ __ ] You ever unfollow some pages you followed on like a on a horny moment?

No, that's my that's my [ __ ] now. That's how they get the next morning. What the [ __ ] I don't like report this is fraud

spam. This is inappropriate. Hey, Bank of America. Back door [ __ ] 9

was not me. That wasn't me. Oh, that was Yeah, I have no faith in um I have I have no faith in Powers finale,

you know. I think you I'm cool. I know. I mean, I'm watch of course I'm going to watch it. Of course, it's a new

season coming. I think by the time 50 puts out whatever BMF [ __ ] he's putting out, I'm not never watching Power again. I think everybody's preparing. The

writing's on the wall somewhere. I think somebody knows that they maybe only got one or two more seasons left, they'll kill off all the characters that

we love and that's going to be the end of them. Take one season or they're going to kill off a lot of people. They're going to close this out maybe next season. There's not even so

so many more places you can take the drug dealer story. And I'm certainly not watching Tariq take over the neighborhood.

If y'all [ __ ] think I'm watching that's really the future. That shows down. If y'all think I'm watching perfect shape up head ass Tariq take over the

town. Perfect shape. Yeah, [ __ ] has got a perfect shape up and no bass in his voice. I'm not

listening to you and you're not selling drugs. Go home and do your homework. [ __ ] out of here. [ __ ] said teach me

the [ __ ] business. Ghost. Yeah. No, [ __ ] Who is the [ __ ] Why is Ghost not punching him in the face every

hour? Teach me the [ __ ] business. Tasha want to bring something up. Tasha, if you don't get the [ __ ] out of here.

Uh, that's our power report. Yeah, that is our power report.

We just be mad at [ __ ] Yeah, that's our power. I spent the whole week looking for [ __ ] to be mad at. I'm mad I'm mad at I'm mad at Issa, man.

I'm sorry. We just got Why? No, because she killed Listen, she killed

Lawrence the whole last episode. How you kill this show? He got to get his [ __ ] together. He ain't this that. Issa, you

got a 425 credit score. You sleeping on your ex-boyfriend's couch. Yeah, she been about

You driving in the show. Not Issa. I don't understand why she uh sleeps on someone's couch when she has two jobs.

Fam, I'm not even dating a chick with two jobs when I get I'm not letting a chick sleep on my couch for you.

But I'm just saying how she kill Lawrence cuz he ain't have his [ __ ] you know what I mean? All the way together. And look at you. I think it's a good

representation of women. I think Issa Ray is writing women perfectly. No, I'm I'm not hypocritical.

I'm not I'm not going to say that when it comes to finances. And I'm going to fight Rory saying it because [ __ ] um I do know I do know a

a community of women who feel like black women are being misrepresented on

Insecure just by how unsuccessful Issa is, her character on the show. Well, Molly is very successful.

Two jobs, [ __ ] beat and leave. Like, you're not really showing.

Well, character is very I know some chicks like that. No, I do too. But I'm saying I know some

chicks that that feel like that's not really a accurate depiction of No, but I think the other characters are

they they have characters on there that kind of like, you know, you can't cover all You got it. Yeah. But yeah, Sex in the

City did the same thing. You have to have characters that relate to all walks of life. But her best friend is a lawyer.

Yeah, her Issa has that. I think that show has that. She played Truth to Truth. Uh

I saw that. You saw it? I saw that. And she got a she Come on, fam. You just met a [ __ ] and you jumping in a random pool butt naked with

him. Mo, I've watched you do that with mad chicks in No, you have not. You jumped in the pool. You just

teaching swim chicks how to swim. That was with somebody I knew. Yeah, but come on. The swim. She just This was This was a customer in

her lift that she bumped into like on the street and then an hour later she's getting naked in a strangers pool with

him. You think you think that drivers be bagging? I think that's swag. That No, it's swag. But that ain't happening. That happen. You [ __ ] lucky

I'm You [ __ ] lucky I'm not an Uber driver. I teach y'all about dirty macing. Oh my god. Y'all go ahead and keep putting these

chicks in Uber. I'm going be right there in the freshest of of these.

You going to be mad when the Mayback pull up. Hey, wait a minute. This ain't Honda CVR. No, [ __ ] Joe.

I'm dropping her off. That's funny. Um, y'all know

we should film that. I'm joking around, but I've definitely got I You never uh sent a chicken to Uber and then when she got home, she told you about how the

[ __ ] just was trying to bag her. Yeah, of course. A real [ __ ] I'm never mad at that. Go ahead. Be

Go. A girl told me how the Uber driver was texting her the next day. Oh, it happens a lot. Yeah, it happens a lot. They say he lost

something in the car. Yeah. No, no. Homie was getting straight to it like, "Yo, so we can't go to

lunch." Nah, he winging. He wing. He about to get written up.

They about to take his Uber. They about to take his Uber Uber. Yeah. They about to take his Uber light out his car. Like, give me that Uber light.

Word. Funny how go drive a lift with your nasty ass. Yeah. Funny how [ __ ] feel safe over

the most bullshittest of things. Like the car and pull up with a [ __ ] perfect stranger in it, but it has a big

U on the windshield. Yeah. So, chicks love. Yeah.

Chick be safe. He got mints. He got hand sanitizer. That [ __ ] got duct tape and

rope in the trunk, too. Like, what you talking about? 100%. That [ __ ] the bone collector. Yeah. They like, "Yo, he was nice. He

was nice." [ __ ] get in the car and fall asleep. Talking about why we not JFK.

Why we not there yet? This is the way. Yeah. No, you're not. You're not making that flight.

Turks have to wait. [ __ ] love Turks. Anyway, [Music]

we gonna get fired before we start our job. Uh, that's everything I wanted to cover. This is a long ass podcast. I mean, how

much time is this? Uh, that's like two. I don't know what 163 is, but it's a lot. We coming up.

I'm cool. I don't give a [ __ ] I don't give a [ __ ] about [ __ ] I'm going to tear Eminem up if you say something crazy. Right out of retirement, too. And I'm

100% confident I could do it. I Yeah, you love this [ __ ] As you should be. Yeah, let's do it. But not for DV

Rhymes. No, no, no. Not domestic violence. sensitive times. Emble never popped off if the [ __ ] uh me too move

and all that [ __ ] was alive today. I'm surprised they letting him rock out now. You better watch mouth. It's dangerous.

Dangerous out there. Bold tweets. You can dig up some old Emler tweets. Oh tweets, none. A lot of

that [ __ ] is desperation. Desperation. Pure swinging for the

fences. And that's why I'm confused because when you get into the gut of the album and the album title and the concept kamicazi kamicazi what?

Everybody's alive and well. Everybody's excellent. Who did you kill? Who did you What suicide mission did you What plane

you got in and crashed into enemy targets and then everyone blew up cuz you were suicidal and that's the way the

[ __ ] Huh? Well, it was a suicide mission. Man, if you don't get the [ __ ] out of you alive, too, [ __ ] Shut up.

[ __ ] kamicazi. These nuts. That's kamicazi.

All right. What do we have? All right, I'm finished. We have levers. We knew was missing.

[ __ ] kamicazi kamicazi, my friend. I think we covered everything.

And if we didn't, they'll be back next week. You can listen on Spotify.

Uh, next week again, do remember next week starts two episodes a week, Wednesday and Saturday. Spotify

exclusive for the audio staggered 48 hours later video on YouTube. Uh, so

that's important. That's happening next week. Please. Spotify is also free, guys. For everyone in my mentions

complaining about that, there is a free service. You just download the app and you hit play. Yeah. Same as SoundCloud.

Yeah. Yeah. People didn't I I don't know why people didn't know that already, but whatever.

Uh but become a member. Do that [ __ ] instead. Yeah. But there is an option

or you can listen for free. I know. I think um I told somebody that [ __ ] I ain't listen no [ __ ]

commercials. Give me a code. Give me the code. Yeah, give me the code. for I got mad codes in my bedroom somewhere. Uh

Ian sent me that free Spotify for life [ __ ] I sent that to the whole hood. They shut

that [ __ ] down right away. Jesus, man. We're never going to get I mad because y

don't work no more. Damn. We going fired. If you get us fired, I'm

be mad cuz you sent the [ __ ] [ __ ] to your Jersey City buddies.

Um All right. All right. So, sleepers, I think that's everything, right? Savon, did we forget anything? Let me look at my phone. Oh, wait. No, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Uh, tonight, part two of the Bobby Brown story on BT.

Yes. Uh, I would tell you about part one, but that was last night and we're recording now, so I didn't see it yet.

I assume it's going to be pretty good. Jesse's behind it. I [ __ ] with Jesse. I mean, they smoked the New Edition one and it's the same kid.

Oh, that was out here. Who played Bobby? Amazing. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm glad. There's no reason this won't be.

Yeah, I'm I'm excited about that. I want to see uh Young Bobby, who's playing Whitney. Great. So now this dude going to be running around for the next year

thinking he's really Bobby. Yep. Doing shows. He'll be at the next five VMAs. Be at the next four BET Awards.

He'll present. He'll win. He'll do everything. Um that's fine. Uh yeah. So watch that. Check that out. You youngsters outside Browns rocking. Um

and I used to have a question about what better album uh 8701 or don't be Cruel.

8701. I'm 28, so I'm going 8701. Yeah, 8701

was a better album. I'm not rolling with that. You're not rolling with a better album than than uh Don't Be Cruel? Yeah, it was a better album.

No way. Way better. I had to go back and listen. Don't be Cruel was only nine songs and every one of them was a hit. Pull up Don't Be Cruel. Uh Savon, please.

So, if if we rocking with Ill Maddic, then we rocking with Don't Be Cruel. You pull it up. Can you read me the

track list? Every song was Every song wasn't a hit. So you don't have it.

Thanks Savvon. I appreciate it. So you don't have it. Thanks. Let me just play the sleeper.

Yeah, don't worry about it. Brand new Y Ali. Brand new Y Ali. This

is called T-shirt interlude. Love when the R&B [ __ ] take an amazing song and make it an interlude.

No, I [ __ ] with this song. Me too. Shout out to Y.

The name was little bit of herb in a paper cup. Out of all them girls, you're my favorite one. So won't you drop down

and show me something? You told me you want that. Oh yeah.

Two red bones in the backseat. They go both way. Bro, get on stage. This your

show that's going to rotate. Girl, let's not exchange this. No face, no cash. You are

all creepy with the on. If your whole [ __ ] see me on, baby, put my t-shirt

on. Got them white shorts, girl. Showing

love. Baby, put my t-shirt on.

Got them white shorts.

Tell me where you want to go. Book a flight for the night to get you

by my side. [Music] Sex is a sport.

I'm going to start down south instead of north. Let me know your desires when I

fire so long. Just hold on.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Body of a goddess. I still my sh

ups and downs, but I need you. Come back around. You're my lady. Shirt on.

Got them white shorts. Why should it t

[Music]

you [Music] know make you feel so good

on your ear? Help me to relax

there. [Music]

Brand new music from Yeah. That one is called T-shirt interlude. I bought it so I don't know where you

can find it outside of buying it on all DSPs. I had to hit Y and say, "Nigga, put that

out." Well, actually, wait. Spotify, you can get it. That was the other thing, man.

Let me shut up. Shut up. That's probably a better idea. I've said enough. I do have more to say,

though. That's funny. All right. Uh Mo, you want

to go? You want me to go? No. You play your emotional oranges [ __ ] and get it out of here. That [ __ ] did numbers. Yo, what kind of

oranges we got this week? No oranges this week. These ones took a break. These are numb. We had enough vitamin C.

Clementine this week. Two weeks. Oranges. Oranges that aren't feeling good. Clementine.

Yeah, the Clementine coming to the stage. The Clementine.

That is funny. Uh, all right. So, I'm going to play regular featuring Walt Anderson royalty.

What did you say? See, I knew he was going to play something that had a regular Epsom salt fill.

He don't have no lavender or nothing. Lavender. That's funny.

That is yours. Whatever. Really want you. You look like a star.

You must be famous. I need to know who you are. I'm a king, so be my queen. I never seen

you in my city. So pro tell me what to do baby. She said I'm more loyal to you.

So give me anything I want. Baby you want what you want baby. She say loyal.

She tell the bill. [Music]

She R O Y A L T Y. She R O Y A L T Y.

D. Am I crazy for wanting to treat you like what? Like there ain't no problem. Bowing down at

your feet, love. Not at all. See, I don't mean any hassle. Follow me to my

castle. We'll break rules like rules. Do we do what we want? You got miles and

miles of beauty. So I'mma make you my d. Yeah. Does that sound as good as you

look? I'm a king, so be my queen. I never seen in my city. So pro. Tell me

what to do, baby. She said I'm all royalty.

So give me anything I want, baby. I'm what you want, baby. She said loyalty.

She tell her. So I showed up and dropped the bill. Hey d

o y a l t y d r o y a l t y d

can't be mad chase that pay. Going to get paid. Who cares what they say? Follow my lead. If not, just make way.

Hey. Oh yeah. Can't be mad, chase that pay. Going to get paid. Who cares what they say?

Follow my lead. If not, just make way. Hey. Hey, I'm a king to be my queen. I

never seen in my city. And tell me what to do, babe.

I'm loyal. So give me anything you want, baby.

What you want, baby? I'll give you what you want. on your she

[Music]

ly [Music]

that was Prince Hakee featuring Wolf Anderson Royalty.

Good record. It's dope. I like the name Wolf Anderson. Walt. It's Walt Anderson, but Wolf Anderson

does sound kind of fire. Yeah, Wolf Anderson is hard. That's his name. Walt, you got to change your name now. I'm sorry, Wall.

I'mma play uh this is new Jack Marzilla. This is Bardi Blues.

[Music]

She fire you know

fading when low plenty for you.

[Music] It's a hell of a view. [Music]

Tell me you know the way out. [Music]

Tell me you know the way out [Music]

for my last she. [Music] Sex too good never

my [ __ ] too real way before this

Mr. M on your playlist. Ooh, I get too fed. Too fed.

A [ __ ] never get too fed. She like her when I pop and I roll it short and she

know it with a

no way my hypnos

[Music] you know the way out. [Music]

I know that. Oh.

[Music]

Yeah. [Music]

Oh no. [Music] Oh no.

Yeah. This will do. [Music]

for now. [Music] This

for now as she know

[Music]

that's new Jack Margilla Bardi Blues. Shout outs to Jack Margilla. It's a good

record, man. That [ __ ] was hard. Yeah, [ __ ] with that [ __ ] That That [ __ ] was super hard. Um,

I'mma kill this [ __ ] man. What's on your mind, Joe? I know I keep saying that, but Oh, God.

Go ahead and jump. Please, please, please. Please. I know he's not. I know

he's I know he's not, but just another reason that that we're not

alike. Like [ __ ] thought that all that time I was dissing [ __ ] back in the day that I was really doing it trying to

clout chase. But nah, some [ __ ] is just really with the [ __ ] We just really enjoy rap beef.

Um Oh, I love rap beef. Especially when I know I'm better than the other guy.

I got him. It's a confident thing to know. No, he ain't saying nothing. Listen, lyrical miracle spiritual individual.

No, no, no. Not this hour. You say that to Joe. Joe

just going to buy some mayonnaise in the TV. That ain't going to stop. I'm not altering my day. Not Not doing that. Um,

so that was really good. Again, let me remind you next week we are Spotify exclusive. This is the last one. I'm so

glad that we gave y'all a bang. I'm so glad that somehow we just ended with a bang. These [ __ ] keep throwing me pitches right over the plate like by

mistake. Underhand. Yeah. They just keep shooting the price right up. And I don't understand. He

said that the first song. Yo, me saying your name, shoot your price up and then you just whatever. Uh,

so next week, next week. Next week, we will see you guys next

week. Young Spotify boys, I want to shout out to all of the stories that will break tomorrow and the rest of the week. We'll

get to y'all. I'll be real happy next week when there's two because then I won't feel like we're ever missing something ever. I feel like y'all can go

ahead and break the stories on Wednesday. I got y'all ass on the weekend. Um, and that's it. Shout out to y'all. I'm getting the [ __ ] out of here.

Any last words? Last words. Last words. A lot of spice today. It was a spicy. Yeah, we were spicy today. Water.

This might have been our spiciest podcast in a while. I ain't going to lie. Everybody came in here with spice. And I I thought Mo don't normally I was

talking about you buying back. Mo don't normally retain the spice. Like if he's mad or not mad, but if he's

feeling spicy on Thursday, normally when we come in on Tuesday, he ain't really. It left a little bit. You kept it to

that. Yeah, I you kept it. It stayed. It stayed. and Rory. Yeah,

Rory got snuffed somebody now. Unbelievable. You got this is one of these [ __ ] We ain't going to They was Every one of my mentions was

blaming me for the M disc cuz I didn't snuff Logic. And if I would have snuffed Logic, the M album would have never happened.

That's valid. Yeah, you would have restored Smed out every [ __ ] in the world except for

the [ __ ] that signed him. All right, man. We'll see y'all next week. Spotify exclusive.

Croo and Joel won't tell me that they friends. Oh, we out, man. Peace.