"Hip Hop Mystery's"

enough is anyone sick of Jonah Hill's hip-hop press right me too I am but it

was a good sound like I mean I was kind of into it for like the first verse 3 I was good I was like oh this is dope

i'ma go check out his movie I'm sick of it now but then he started dropping the same bars enough

with the big rehearsal [Laughter]

biggie bars in every interview David - Rob mark man that

was really on board cuz I did enjoy both of those interviews but then now come on though yeah we're going to every publication now but then you let my mind

fester when I was home alone and then I just got to thinking I'm like oh he's

going all the black outlets what's he got coming dropping all of this black he's put a movie about skateboarding in

LA and like all the theme music has around hip-hop and like how they come together as Jonah Hill ever marketed and

and pro mode with us not us well uh well I know what you're saying I think he

mentions that he mentioned it I think in The Breakfast Club one like I finally get to go to all the publications I want to go to I've never get to actually

think I'm not gonna sound it mom all first of all no two questions really quickly one why are you rolling your

eyes - why do you not roll your eyes like

any time I do is about like a mistake but and then I mean trust me my girl like why though I think I made a

statement before about when like when white boys talk about hip-hop how much cooler they look and like if a black guy

talks about it you're right yeah but joint yeah okay I'm

listening but Jonah he obviously is oh we like Jonah I love him I love him but it's just like you said it's like I it's

cooler because he's mastered a whole different genre and it's like oh wow you like hip-hop - no even came up here

using the smoke - yeah I think genius gave him a quiz and it was like it was [ __ ] you know ABCD it

was like I hate what was the name of Biggie's first album I was like also put

mine I hate Rob Markman because Rob because of that and we love Rowan Oh Rob Rob Rob interview - no I'm totally

different thing Rob likes everybody that's not true yes it is I've never seen Rob

like sing everybody what's his job nanny's a rapper and he's uh he's an MC

and he's a journalist you how can you like everybody EMC dress buy

or it's not even possible - [ __ ] did it you do not like everybody that is a lie nobody likes everybody that's true did

y'all ever just take a gander at his tweets probably not as much as you do what I'm saying is

although all the journalist guys are like that though but he tried it but they have to be no yeah he's doing his

job this is no offense to yachty cuz I [ __ ] with y'all got excellent [ __ ] now right but like wrong up what do you got

texts about whoa video games where we have pretty good talks in the morning

sometimes in the morning crazy

insane because y'all know I wake up very early what

I'm saying is if I wake up at 4:30 a.m. 5:00 a.m. right I normally try to get

all in my business text out the way knowing that the other person is sleep or you know so when you wake up you get

to it so sometimes I'll hit yadi at 8:00 like when I think he's functioning or

when the world is functioning and easily I'll call me and I call him and I say

you sound tired like I'll get back to you like now what up the movie the

movie oh he's doing how high - correct yeah that's right and it's amaz out but

my point about Rob before we get off of it was Rob be trying to pump up like yachty and me ghost releases or Ozzy

releases like it's the new wu-tang project and it just takes a different verbiage that's what I think yeah like

how you can't backpack promote amigos album well how do you - tag from oh the

backpack like Rob what you say you love it very much put stickers up all go down if you try to

break down amigos first like the lyrics what the [ __ ] let me start this [ __ ]

fight night you can't break down stirfry money [ __ ] you can write

is perfect stir-fry is fire body look at rory dick riding rory Markman

yeah I'm trying getting some more guests he's got everyone I'm

taking his strategy yo I was outside I'm not even asking these

[ __ ] if you saw me outside at this time you should across the street bad

dark times what were you wearing Rory's

pretty spicy to start the clock just have to see my friend now you started to rob Markman smoke even though he'll get

all the backlash good night I was talking about Jonah Hill you brought you started to Jonah Hill smoke that I'll

take Rory came in on knowing the spice tip why don't wait class spice boys spice 111 to white stop beefing maltose

by seat all right y'all talking over one of the greats man one of the greats yeah it was a scratch for

three months I'm no use telling people use out here Brian trying to sneak in there it

worked [Music] it's

Saturday so I'm letting it's rock you should be up cleaning right now right we [Music]

let know this rock on the set it is how we feelin right now this am giving it up what shoulder he'll know about this huh

this [Music] is

a big ladies [Music]

stay with us stay with us you know what's funny about 96 the [ __ ]

love this [ __ ] listen to what they loved they loved this this work they definitely the cause

stack it alone this was a this was a risky record for black moon listen

it was that's crazy melodic it still like that was there on B record yes yes

there's like the RB for thatis there are be right there yeah but is it their biggest record right well the original

well this definitely surpassed this is gonna need you know a lot bigger than the original yeah

this is the original issue

like EP with all the yeah that's why thought good they didn't know that this was the one they thought that their version was the one

I [Music]

[Laughter]

do think that it's time for parks to get a drop any I do and one day when I was sitting home thinking about like parks

should get a drop but I don't want his drop to [ __ ] up our cool drop swag that we got going on like wait a minute I've

only been saying parks his name for a million years and then Farley would be

a super all right drop we should do that but then I got to thinking that might be too hard oh [ __ ]

you welcome to Joe Budden podcast episode 191 if I'm not mistaken Thank You

Eriksen and sayvon I'm your host Joe Budden here with some of my nearest and dearest friends Mallis here parks is

here Rory is here Rory Markman Erikson is here save on is here you already know

what time it is well you don't know what time it is but you know what I mean shout out to the spotify community

salute to y'all shout out to the whole youtube viewership shout out to everybody at work yes salute to you guys

that keep america up and functioning on a weekend while the rest of us are home being lazy sacks of [ __ ] couldn't do it

without you guys and shout out anybody home either lazy sack of [ __ ] glad we

can help yeah glad we can join the [ __ ] is poppin you guys I see now are you

guys safe from the bombs that were in Columbus Circle I'm never in Columbus Circle so I don't just be chillin

obviously a lot of [ __ ] about Trump but they didn't find my address yet so I have a box sitting in front of my house

that is not addressed to anybody that is it's from currently residing and it's from complex and it is shaped kind of

funny I haven't touched it or moved it I wouldn't ignore did I alert the authorities no so it's just right there

yeah but I feel like the way that house is built yeah yeah gonna be there why

you just throw that [ __ ] across the [ __ ] gate cuz it might look cuz then it might blow up and then I'll be in jail for murder and then when I snitch

you'll call me a snitch then I can't go to the Bronx anymore see how far I've thought this through now if somebody

abominate doorstep I'm not gonna signature you for trying to throw that [ __ ] over your [ __ ] gate what would you snitch on before I wouldn't I

wouldn't snitch on you period but I wouldn't call you a snitch for saying some I put a bomb in front give what you

call you never see me again talking about why don't you just like ask the

gardener like yo you mind moving that box real quick then just run away you know what we're laughing right now

because that's what we do but I've thoroughly thought about all of this

stuff what you do is you get a dog right the entire rope to the dog alright now

your mouth I'm out already like a shelter dog pitas gonna kill us are you right

but the dog boy PRA we get a long rope very low we'll see how the white stink look

what Paul's brain going we would you just get a dog jump the

shelter go to the show to get a dog bring it back to your house with a really low rope throw a piece of meat

like bad for ya I'm following the boxes attached to the other of the rope

obviously yeah oh well y'all still trying to get the box from in front of my house this

is what he talked about well the other option was the gardener I don't wanna do the gardener like that pic that should have been thought I should over the gate

man you later thanks thanks I'll be editing on blow when you pick it up dad

dad I see why you're not in bomb relief y'all

don't never sit and just look at like the state of things and get sad by countless hey I'm asking I'm asking how

do you delve into thought on art country I stopped myself I do my deep dives

because I will just get depressed yeah is it is it more difficult is it even

more difficult for you guys to do that now during during election time I'll

tell you yeah because that just heightens the [ __ ] yeah I try to let politics depress me too much because

it's all [ __ ] cut anyway I mean it's very important that you vote obviously but I feel like all these it's mostly

race this whole white guys no matter what you do in some instances ignorance is bliss in some instances I've never

believed in a voting thing really first know you got a vote nope you have to vote but why I say I've never believed

in it because I don't think there's somebody really sitting here counting those votes I think I think the politicians already have it made a pool

they're gonna put in this in the seat you're kind of right that that's just to appease and make me think we all feel

like that I think local voting is really important first I think there's less I don't think any of that I don't think nobody's sitting accounting any of those

votes well it's computers now I don't think I don't think they're running them to shits do no computer voting is

important yeah um in in my opinion I agree I I've said and then you know I

don't want to start with this you have to write the vote right to win that's always been one thing okay okay I think

it may be some validity there yeah like they give you you know good vote and back into minds like we already know who

we're putting in this seat yeah I think it's important I'm also one of those people where if someone says you know I'm not voting cool I can totally see

why you wouldn't want to vote yeah I don't get mad at people when they're like no I'm cool pending on who it is

and what their reasoning is for not voting well this last presidency was the first one I didn't vote in I was

cool there wasn't I thought I wanted to go with so I didn't care for Clinton oh

I was I was Bernie saying I was Bernie Sanders too he wasn't that's why you have some validity with they already

know who's gonna win yeah cuz they were in Bernie dirty you not voting in Mallen and voting is really not the same to me

sorry oh yeah I can see that yeah should I should I speak for Malden speak oh I

don't know because I didn't care for either one of the candidates right so I'm not gonna vote for the lesser of the

evil like that just rather not vote that's his meat oh I voted in the

whatever the primaries whatever they called it when burner is running and clearly they got my man Bernie out of here they did him dirty after that I

checked out yeah I'm not off of that journalist uh the journalists who was

murdered at the Russian consulate yeah and I keep talking about it just

because it's one of those things that as a dropout you play pay close attention

to like as as a dropout or some one who has not gotten information from the

conventional ways that this country prefers

you to get it you just pick up things from different places and what's more interesting is

you just keep getting new facts about this [ __ ] every day so this guy goes in

the consulate never comes out they

say they don't know what happened to him then they change the story then they say he was murdered then they say he got

murdered in a fight it was him versus 50 [ __ ] then they said he got shot

trying to break up a fight then they found a replica of him they took his

clothes off and put it on a look-alike and had that [ __ ] walk around the block outside and all of this is happening and

trumpian saying no [ __ ] worried about any of it which got me to wondering that's

odd see I question everything I like I know

that you all know that if you listen this podcast but that's just as how I learned [ __ ] that was art and then I get

information about weapons sales and

now there there's a negotiation occurring now about how we are

purchasing our arms from over there and then that was spooky and then bomb

started popping up and then that was spooky and then when I

continue to think about it I thought about the

head of this the head of Secretary of Education whoever that chick is that shouldn't have got it who he put in

there then I went to homeboy the judge Supreme Court judge that that shouldn't

have been there that he put in there and he's just been positioning people for quite some time these things is gearing

up for something that is far greater than my imagination can figure out it's all frightening to me I am scared to

death that is part of the reason that I just stay home it is fair know especially with what

happened this week well [ __ ] those bounds being sent to people's houses fam we were just before y'all got here I was

doing me you know me and parks were getting our old school hip-hop vibe together and I was playing foundation by

exhibit great song and the first you know the song is about hits to his

newborn child and in the first verse he's talking about police brutality you know exhibit from the West Coast and

then he said by the time you come of age they'll probably bus on site or something like

that and it froze me high why is this [ __ ] saying this in 96 and

this is exactly what's occurring I'm not mad at people who feel like mall who

feel like voting is pointless and hopeless I understand that mentality but

I do think we've been conditioned to have that mentality for sure um they

want especially for poor people especially poor black people they didn't know much how to vote and that's and

that's the other thing black people by the time we realize exactly how important voting is it's not important

for us it's for the young people like of course it's important for us we still need to vote but voting

is like a young people thing like y'all have to come out and do it for the numbers to reflect that well and young

people really don't give a [ __ ] about it yeah plus young people need to be represented more like all the old rich

white guys like I said earlier are being voted in by other old rich white guys and white women primarily so the more

young people that vote for younger candidates and people that speak to their needs Hillary Hillary tried with it it just felt very

phony and felt very rehearsed so she didn't connect the way Obama did with young people nonsense

[Music] but what I just need to change all that electoral vote [ __ ] and fix the old

system and that'll be that but then when I won't ever change oh well not in my lifetime well you guys feel about Cory

Booker then as far as relating - younger minorities I think he's great

I mean judging what he did in Newark and it's now doing I think he's great I [ __ ]

with Cory I [ __ ] with him in Newark he was involved he got the community involved he wears a lot of money he

fixed a lot of that [ __ ] and then he moved up he leveled up so I mean I have all good things to say about Cory Booker

and this is coming from somebody who didn't wasn't really familiar when he got there though everybody was saying his praises as a black man that's where

I stay on Cory Booker um so then when I started to think about the electoral

vote and that I will never change it and know how to just the metrics

the infrastructure is [ __ ] up somehow that led me to the infrastructure and

music being [ __ ] up I don't that's how I got there I felt like

it was pretty similar I felt like it was on the same parallel mm-hmm yeah and

then a music I got to almost all businesses in America that's true so then in music I got to thinkin wow like

it's the same [ __ ] over here like we don't like how can you really have success in

a system where you the metrics are off and

we're not being represented by people that look and act and have the same issues and interests as you we just

don't know our value at all at all all right it's getting sayin let me find out staying in it yeah

I don't know this is the way to start the Saturday podcast we got a little political vote though yeah especially

since the local elections because they be trying to cheat that [ __ ] like crazy I I think local is way more important

all the district districting and all that [ __ ] is what eventually makes everything work

Hey happy Saturday out there welcome back to

the Joe Budden podcast if you're feeling sad and gloomy out there goddamnit take

a cigarette break and get back to us in three minutes or don't that might make you more sad like me now every

time I like one I'm like why I can't just stop it how

many what how many people do you know that smoke cigarettes not

very many yeah it's definitely going down in the library it'll show it's only it's only I'm the only [ __ ] left are

you actively trying to quit I thought we was trying to get happy Rory

trying to be therapist Ferrell awesome she's now

got at the hook play is there greater running arm be internet

what is there a greater run in the end of that verse right do an arm be [ __ ]

you know what I'm gonna say no but I'm

[Music] gonna say no but that Casey run

is high yeah the linee Williams run is high yeah ones still going they

both still going to Casey running in Leroy oh brother no I mean he's still run like that's how long that run is

what do you think there's a few other oh wait are you guys talking about what like I'm

talk about a vocal run yes okay yes I will put those those two up there um

has anybody feel now you guys feel better feel better alright good good good uh what are we talking about are

you guys gonna get on the Titanic no it's

gonna be interesting though because a lot of people naturally are gonna you know I would you chicks gonna be given a

wild on the new titanium it's white people man yeah yeah and it's taking the same exact route no it is it's due to

global warming there's less icebergs and I think the prime a bit of GPS than they did then I guarantee you a white person

thought of this absolutely 1000 plus 100 thousand percent I guarantee

you a black person went to the bathroom and said that was crazy we've got a

black person ain't gonna tell them in the meeting it's a bad idea it's gonna go smoking but anything's crazy would

you get on it uh I mean did I get comp tickets or I paid we should do a lot of

you know to say Titanic young

girl one time only this way one way ticket is wrong one

way to get you one way ticket swamp man's Rory and Sam out there dying she

better not she better share that door Titanic that's a time I'm not going to

do say Titanic that's crazy I'm not gonna sell panic Palooza I got tickets

come on I'm fine I'm good I'm good I'll give you all each a bottle I'm cool maybe we'll get like a boat on the side

and just roll one now there except we have to keep with the theme they'll be not enough light bulbs give me a helicopter we have to keep this

authentic put my helicopter on the deck somewhere no no you have to die at the end no no I'm cool don't

want to do the cool dress-up stuff and I read that they're doing home they're

opening the tunnels in La December 10 no that's actually a vanilla most I don't

believe that was real yeah yeah when the Kardashians are definitely on I think

the tunnel is just gonna get clogged like everything else he's gonna get what Claud congested with traffic well that's what I that's what that's what my

question was I wanted to know how does that work like because we've all been through the Lincoln Tunnel they

have that your car goes on a skate if you choose to drive or they have like shuttled NATO under the tunnel as well

so I was thinking like I'm pretty sure a lot of people gonna try to get use this tunnel so it would probably be like a

long wait right you know I'm saying so I didn't understand how that works like I don't know what you're talking you can't

just put your car in the tunnel yes a skate that you drive the car but is there car no no no you take your car and

they put it it's like this it's like when a car goes on a ferry yeah cars now there's commercials and I've never seen

that yeah you can save on can you look that up please you could put your car on the skate I do not believe what I'm

always saying yeah and then once you get down to the downtown area all those thing and you drop your car wherever you

going listen after the guy that created those things went on that [ __ ]

podcast all is correct this is what happens if they cave in well you know whatever happens happens it's how Elon

Musk replies to everything that the skate goes like a hundred and so I'm tired an hour what I'm now putting my

car down indigo yeah December 10 how

much of how long is the tunnel it goes from Hawthorne yeah it's like downtown

area are you lazy folks y'all can't just jog two miles you tried to drive to know

our 45 minutes to drive to mother no that is why I live where I live it's

much better here sometimes so it's much better but it's pockets is we have pockets here we traffic as number

negative good dumb [ __ ] be stuck in traffic and glanced to the right and no hole [ __ ] is on fire they

just be talking about it like it's a breeze they be trying to clown us there's rats

everywhere I will take a rat over a forest fire any day yeah for sure we still have four had somewhat worth the

most fire will see somebody drop some trash on the subway track right lit for like a second Oh a mattress no New

Yorkers dirty [ __ ] Oh No you're ugly New York is filthy Chinatown

another reason that no well it's most have its most crazy good general sounds

smells porno Chinatown oh it smells like a spa because they put carcasses on the table it smells like dead bodies I've

been in Elizabeth New Jersey a lot all [Music]

right what's important it's [ __ ] it's Saturday so nothing is important but not really we have to act like [ __ ] is

important uh did you guys take a look at Drake's birthday party that none of us were

invited to Rory is the worst topic controller is doing

a great job is so trash master job family we're mad clothes in here and he

always looks at us at the Soraa did you guys hear about that's

a joke and that's just how white people like part of the character Joe it's true

he can't offer us like switch it up sometimes behind the back pass

why is this a bounce pass we're actually talking I do transitions very [ __ ]

well but we're just here to say like alright so now what okay here's what so

what Rory spicy today man that's beautiful

no you can't come on you got the off white converse on you can't fight in those

yeah you and you smell like cologne you ain't come out to fight but I can't save you you may have [ __ ] I'll

rip that zips out right off you're gonna go right at you right now three

different Cologne somehow it's

one of your cars to Cologne in your car in the crib and then you're in your book bag in my purse no

but wherever my purse is there's some Jasmine Tom Ford so you used your purse

you Louise first it's been a little while since don't know if Ari bought you

were the one that you bought I have a few now so I have more than two - oh come on switch it up see collect your

switch versus the way my girls switch purses no no I hear you bro your person matching

suit is now no okay in there that's the car sneakers

- it's like detail bloody

shoes

what are y'all talking so much well why Oh cuz you started told my

Rory he shot back at you okay

he just stupid um boys in two drinks Oh fighting fighting

fighting fine you know what I don't I don't I don't know that I can't fight in these that's what I'm saying like I know

that these are cool sneakers I'm not cool enough to know that you shouldn't fight in these none of our support bro

yeah chuck's don't have great traction I can only imagine though off whites don't have I have will school will score 100 a

note I have to get four piers of Carhartt winter socks on for support I'm

ready to rumble right now yes yes I'm ready see that's the thing about [ __ ]

from the nineteen eighties from the 90s are always thinking about what happens if the fight breaks out hmm like I have

changed foot weird because of that yeah was it I think your feet were just cold well

no chucks are flat footed sneakers yeah and I don't know off-white they have comfortable sneakers either so I could

imagine no off-white Chuck collab you know it's funny about Joe Joe was killing Virgil with the off waves and

all that yeah that's not you don't do that don't have very pear I just said this no I mean how many

pairs yeah of off white sneakers yeah just my second Peter no in the first

thing I gave the trade I didn't lie don't I don't we don't like them but Rory can vouch for any time there's a

pier that I like I say it they got another pair like they have two other peers that I like like I think one is

like one of them it's not the air max something like that dome it's in 97th I

like the 97 ones I got yeah they got two other sneakers that I like but other

than that no why did someone tell me and I'm generally asking I'm not trying to hit anything why are the Blazers called

the Serena Williams the Serena Williams like play tennis and blazers or something I think the color scheme and

she he might have like written her name on her - something like that oh no she's definitely they

dug up Virgil sweets and in like 10 he was like you know fashion designing is the biggest scam you can

quote me on this I was like sounds about right zip

ties and [ __ ] text and and [ __ ] kidnapping letters on the side of the singles

though it looks random no letters on the side of the sneakers and he's selling out 30 seconds effect there's so many hip-hop answers that I want to know the

answer to that we'll just never know the answer to like it's not like it so many hip-hop mysteries every time I'm watching channel ID I think to myself

damn I need to come out with the hip-hop mystery that's a good one why'd you say there because Virgil being Whitney key

still that's a mystery to me that whole Kanye deal

wit Nike then blows up Kanye goes over here Virgil from Louis just

more to that I do more to that I do agree with you but sometimes this you know they they gave

me the bigger bag right and not only that I would now sometimes it's just simply there's more money over yeah but

we know that's not true some of us didn't more informed know that that's that there's more to it than that cuz

Virgil and Kanye stop talking it could just be one of his homies over there too well then they hugged on a red carpet in

baggy pants and sketches Sam I hear what you're saying I'm just telling you my opinions and what I think that's what he

was but but the bigger thing to me is like I said in 2010 he tweeted fashion

is the biggest scam our designing is I believe that all of this [ __ ] that Kanye

is doing with these sneakers I believe all of this is just him showing these companies that I literally can sell

anything I mean it goes to artists a lot of this [ __ ] is trash it's weird that perception and perspective can really

sell things like to art art should be like sells for three million dollars then I'd be like you know I probably could have painted that it's really who

says it's dope and who does it but it's whatever you take from it and if you think that person's cool and they say

it's cool like yes I'm a in it does happen to music but I think it's even crazier with fashion and art yeah but

fashion to me is one thing music is a bit more

Universal in liking it yeah but my thing with the whole fashion thing now like will I think literally these guys

literally had a meeting and was like we can sell anything that we can make the most obnoxious sneaker yeah this big

bulky shoe and sell it we can make these sweats with holes in them and sell them

we could like sell anything and companies like people don't wear Louie like that anymore people don't wear

gucci like that anymore so these brands want to collab with street brands like supreme and do a nike collab and hire

designers from you know urban markets to bring a cool factor back to these brands I think it's pretty funny when I see

people with the big belt still yeah of course it's funny nobody wears that [ __ ] in the water I think it all goes back to

ice telling people they can charge their phones in the microwave people will believe anything if they believe the

source yeah like that's a fact my next hip-hop mystery tricks

birthday party is a mystery what's the mission only wood joke you know that

they were really at the party unsolved mysteries theme song I do have a theory that that picture surfaced of Joe was

actually a new one of him trying to get into the party with those baggy jeans that was a new photo that wasn't an old

one that old pillow I

was laughing at that picture because of everything yes

yes parks because of everything about it I do definitely took that photo I'm sure of it no I wasn't dude that was Jackie

that was a photo shoot for the source of one of them one of them shits and that

was another web special web dressed me in that all that most of these bad bad

bad outfits from 2002 web did it it was web okay well I'm not gonna say anything

and granted he was doing it because I

dressed really bad so I mean I don't know if it was me like it was all bad

low [ __ ] back I was laughing no bald cuz that was a Sean

John jacket so leather yeah okay so full circle is just funny yeah yeah right now

without saying the only words do they do the warm ears [ __ ] with the dad hats yet because I like

that trend actually

[Music]

in that picture was kind of ready everyone I thought when it came to the group towels like we used to dress crazy

yeah but that's why I'm mad because good morning [ __ ] upload y'all [ __ ] that's

true somebody mentions gave me the old soldier boy and Chingy pics and I was like yep I look

good Google

2005 BT Awards and then put my pickup was

disgusting yeah I would do Joan Rivers proud honey but

I do like the jokes you gotta laugh I said most prior on this

podcast there is no point of my life that I enjoy in pictures the funny thing

none ago I don't know that was the worst we ever dressed I think that Rockstar Oh 607 colorful [ __ ] was horrible like of

course we stop wearing baggy or [ __ ] but we looked way more nuts to me the trend was

with jeans I can't

hear anybody anymore so laser the jacket that thing I'm talking about the blazer

with the jeans I think I should started I just way I'm giving it was the part of it I'm giving it to all over evolution

keeps trying to absolve whole of fault no he did a blazer with jeans too [ __ ]

I'm not saying he didn't I'm saying uh sure started to anybody know at a big record when he was in the video with

that outfit on he was the first negative video damn we were in video we were running to the nobody you know was

rushing to the club to do what uh sure was doing [ __ ]

[Applause] got they fashioned from books from videos not from a survey from any video

that's what [ __ ] got they fashioned from that's what fashion came from oh sure alright we'll check this out maybe

more with maybe that that's what his vibe was back then I never water blue Hines I was I never wore blazer with

James I did button-ups Virginia never evolved told [ __ ] to go to the club in a blazer and jeans no he did not he said

but knows he said that - I don't I know you don't hold

bore with please what song was it he said he mad button ups that was the

whole every 1,000% jerseys out he was trying he was trying to kill rims yeah he was trying to kill a lot of

things at that time well the night important yeah we were well yeah rim

also tried to get Sims out of here that lasted for like a year oh yeah he did we off that pardon me for over to sir he

tried to get Tim's out of here yeah then we put Sims back on black times for you

Clark Kent this is Joe Budden from the Joe Budden podcast how are you I'm glad

good good I'm glad to hear that we're in the middle of a heated debate here and I

just needed some type of hip-hop historian on the phone quick

question for you you ready I hope I answer well it's not one man one of them

goofy bar listen Clark there ever and hip-hop way where

[ __ ] was doing jeans and a blazer do you remember that yeah

jeans Blazers mock next column world all

right who who was influential in that setting

that trend hustlers that's all hustlers chippy that ain't

gaint no rapper no rappers wasn't was an influential back then it was all hustlers [ __ ] we wanted to dress like

the husband so yep that's hole know

how the blade o'clock the blazer I'm saying a blazer and the jeans was uh

sure like when he did the year video that's what [ __ ] started on that - it

is so far after daddy

if you want the real we talking all the world when

[Music] the whole said we have to wear

button-ups now no more jerseys button-ups that's the time we talking about yeah that's what y'all they're talking about yeah did

holding court a blazer in there's what we asked well I mean yeah video

me but he would be with that was put on him I'm

going over now home started to but he said button-ups classy blazes Clark who had the best verse on Brooklyn's Finest

I'm gonna have to say J because he put all

the verses and play cuz he laid it first yeah big was feeding

off him right so was a back and forth right think

[Laughter]

about this my hook came off of Jays bars right so

everything that you like when you what cname who shot you Montez like Sinatra

like if he doesn't go you know everything he'd said like breathe every other Ram

yeah yeah I can see it all right fine

bunch of Brooklyn [ __ ] told me biggie the other weed that booze I mean yeah I got killed no here's the thing it's

really really hard for people to want to give it up to Jay cuz he's still here true

so I mean you know when when people decide to get on rapping on one they

take a really good look at it just go bar for bar who said the wildest [ __ ] Clark can I just say that that's only

hold and the [ __ ] that know hope that Sharon that that whole J

don't get the flower was well you steer it still here thing all the rest of us feel like Jake is a lot of flowers but I

get me what wonder is is where is this cloud but big isn't here if you put

those two conversations and plate I mean let's just look at it simply Jay said

better Ron's big said the rhymes better word

that that's why I always say Jays the best MC and big is the best rapper hmm I

always say it because Jay says the better rounds what big said the last better they'd made people believe the

more I smoke the smaller the Farragut is wanted a bit the best minds in the world he just said it so good you believe it

right it big said a lot [ __ ] know

what I'm saying no I'm agreeing with you I'm saying he had a lot of lines where if you just think about the line it's

like yeah yeah that's a very regular line but yeah but when he said yeah like wait a minute Oh crazy exactly exactly I

rhymed it was seven other syllables in the line before but that but that doesn't happen with oh yeah

good point good point Clark we got to get you up here mark I told you over the

weekend would you already know that whenever you're ready whatever you say man I'm with you you

know that the big record man I didn't know you did that record until like the other day thank you thank you my brothers thank

you Mark he's got the Cobra bar that I don't talk about me like that right

good oh that's

dope I'm totally against condi right now but I love you so I'm supporting love

you Clark I hate you later bro I hope one all

right now that we got that out the way time to pay some bills all right have

you seen this new reality series on bt called hustle in brooklyn you've probably seen the cast they were hanging

at the BT Hip Hop Awards they're making moves and not just in the conference room they feel like a couple already but

will ivy and Jesse become exclusive and what is Danielle gonna do about playing number two and Darnell's love life

hustle in Brooklyn is all new next Tuesday at 10:00 9:00 central and BT get

more juice on the show at BT calm [Laughter]

- hip-hop mysteries hip-hop mysteries drink through a big throwback mm party I

was home feeling like a complete [ __ ] loser that mm is like throwback able now

yeah like just yesterday for some of us didn't

really see too much creativity and the partn outfits there but I hear he had a

basement booth I saw zombie to the basement yeah and 106 in park something

right yeah and he had like I guess he worked at a blockbuster yet a whole blockbuster store like he had a bunch of

really cool [ __ ] from his music where I was like oh that's dope right this was just all from women I follow on Instagram I didn't see like a recap

photo here it was there --stay was in there the homes of finding out where the

party is on they will yes I saw the Elena episode

they'll sniff it out and they'll find a way okay

are way better which obvious are way better getting into parties they were not invited to once

they heard he was given out a woman that was not invited to a party will get in before a man that was invited any Dave

DeBusschere any day of the week well you know what I would let that log of women port have a easier time getting him

parties in a man do who do you think has it easier in life woman it's

not sexist it is sexist it's not it is have it easier no sex for you to say

that mmm no it's not I'm not sexist it's just it women have it easier than that I'm not saying women don't have a difficult time in life but the question

was who has it easier I think men have a way more difficult time in life than women why do you feel that way because

men are supposed to be the providers men is supposed to be protectors I think

women have it way harder me to do I'm just worried about this conversation to begin with you gotta carry a baby bro I

mean you come up and and provide for it right because regardless of what the

country says should happen the woman has to provide for her kids she's the person

with the kids yeah so I all that man provides you they it that's cute go to work I think we got a pretty easy yeah

and then they got to worry about men word I'm

just carrying this conversation that's one of the signs of being one of those guys you probably

didn't get that part but you should join it you know what I think men are more interesting and have

better personalities because of how societies set up for [Laughter]

us for the population to continue we have to be interesting Lester we have more skills because our whole life we've

been fighting to try to get to women women haven't been fighting to get more more interesting it's much harder for us

to get laid yo men are so y'all talkin about [ __ ] that I'm not even told my getting laid and I'm like I ain't even

get to that I'm just so much just in life trying to shift away from that you

don't think I'm more interesting I'm always shocked at

the amount of [ __ ] nice that comes out of you Aurora I'll be honest we mean Freud

is a dear and said men because we have to be interesting to keep the population

going yeah that's his story but I'm not you know I'm not hittin on

anybody's thoughts okay we're generalizing here my obviously not going with every man every woman but you

don't think men have to become more funny no more [ __ ] be cooler to attract

women no it says worse about us because we're more shallow and we will just [ __ ] women

like we have to go out and do things they

[Laughter]

only need one of us to keep the population going now

you're trying to get involved in incest that's gross yeah it shouldn't just be one person that's nasty don't worry I'm

back back to the fab up not fat but the Drake party that I is one of my hip-hop mysteries Drake and fab mmm Drake

dressed his fat why is Drake dressed as fat well he posted on Instagram that fab was one of his

biggest inspirations and rep I know what that means what is that mystery man it

means I hate you and I mad issue every time I [ __ ] you're gonna know it nervous y'all don't think

that's what you're my biggest inspiration means logical

thinking person thinks that y'all think that when a [ __ ] says you're my biggest inspiration that that's what he means I

don't think that that's I don't know drink so I don't know he's a was

really like all right check this out vomits let me I was a major figure in Iraq let me help I could see why he I

could see that too you know how if you ask Peyton Manning about any quarterback in the world he's gonna say great things

yeah but he didn't go out of his way to specifically talk about one quarterback

party who are Johnny Barnes huh Payton wasn't dressed like Johnny Unitas

what I'm saying this the superstar [ __ ] they just be saying [ __ ] ain't it

that's like when I call Kendrick for verse me was Tom a tall man pump it up taught me how to write a hook that's

great to hear that comes with like someone's project you

just have to say something nice to like the og that's why I respect you I need to say that and what is dressed up like

that it's courteous that's my point why is Drake dressed like fan cuz he's one

of his biggest inspirations yeah yeah he got that all the way for his job all

right he could have just put like a fab board I'm done talking to the DS these [ __ ] guys well I won't even talking

these guys I'm gonna talk to the wall okay the camera the wall the wall has more

answers Drake dressed as fat well he was gonna dress as you but he couldn't find

a big enough head so there's that he couldn't he couldn't find a Yao Ming football basketball

jersey in time shipping overseas he couldn't get it to

20 X hoodie with dog drool on it so he went with the LA Dodgers hat and Kobe

throw the way easier to buy [Music] oh go ahead we're done back to the decoy

oh I'm dying here this one I'm told me to walk

Joe takes us to some great places so today I don't want to talk to you anymore no good let's hear it I don't

want you to feel like you should be able to listen to all these covers Drake dressed is fat granted it

was a lot of them [ __ ] beer and basketball jerseys I got that mmm do-rags yeah

it's no creativity but okay alright so nobody thinks is weird that they never wrapped it together again either after

that throw it in the bag remix let me ask you that before I can record before I give my I never really did like an

official record yeah how cuz I definitely would like to hear more jumps with them together so that was alone it's a little there's I mean what what

Drake joint have y'all heard that would be like old fat that would fab there's there's every Drake record yeah there's subject matter it's very easy I would

have I would love to hit fad bone diced pineapples that wasn't his record and I

did I did here fat boy diced pineapples yeah alright fab what a bunch of these records just on his own accord yeah but

fabric that's weird lord knows and district on lord knows off was that tink

to tink three hmm he wrapped on Lord knows and he did district on that on his own beat

interesting this was what 2011 yeah forgot about that nobody ever talks about that fab

Lord an old freestyle I don't remember that be freely hmm okay you got my attention right I'm pretty sure they

Drake responded why would they be fit where's my phone your phone did he respond in a like a Drake way like the

sub sure yeah oh I don't remember that yeah there's underlying [ __ ]

I some new just calling everybody today I'm strong it's cuz you'll know and then the right oh

[ __ ] genius Gojo give me this this this bone

yo ice you know fabs lord knows freestyle where he's dissing Drake yeah

do Drake ever respond no one

nothing nothing no shots no sneak dish nothing no subs never no thugs nothing got

it I'll call you later all right that makes this even more interesting Deb

then I'm putting more on him wearing that [ __ ] fab outfit how we just believed him what Isis and

[Laughter] this is all stemming from that Drake

interview where they asked him about some line and it wasn't the greatest

line and he said that not even fab would say that line am I the only one that remembers

this yes outside remember that I do remember that you are a mention right he

mentioned Ludacris in that same interview okay in that same answer and

we know it that he's had issues with Ludacris how do you remember [ __ ] from an interview from mm okay this is from

HipHopDX calm fab said after the lord knows freestyle not to keep adding to an

old story but I spoke to Drake a little while after I ran into him at a Jordan Brand event and he was disgusted by how

the press kind of instigated the story made it seem worse than it really was for the sake of it being a story oh that's a lie so

I guess that would be discussed why you need that's why you need platforms like this because that is exactly what you

are supposed to say to HipHopDX okay and this was what Drake had said they go back Drake I forgot who was interviewing

with but there was some real questionable bars on there like that swag swag Healey line come on man even

fab wouldn't say some [ __ ] like that that was what Drake said in the interview so that's what prompted that

offensive yeah it is that's offensive that's a disc that's insulting it is and y'all know fab don't give it up like

that fat if there's one [ __ ] that ain't the beef dude it's fat is he rebuked

everybody mace oh he'll do well I think a lot of people just don't know mixtape fab they have like

the girl records that they don't know clue tape that yeah I just don't know I don't remember any beef with him but fab

says he apologized to me says hey

he put a put an ending toe all that who sounds like who think back sometimes

I just be home thinking about like this past hip-hop [ __ ] like [ __ ] that came and went real quick that you just had to

remember boy did you get a lot of slack for sounding like me like that was a

tough time for yeah it was he had to overcome that yes in fact when mace was

retired then D the family's this amazing Maslin home

like working on a sermon he's came the omentum A's game this was a

[ __ ] you I don't know what he was he just came back and tried throw shots of fat yeah that boy I don't know I don't know if Abby won't admit that I'm need

daddy yeah uh off the get rich or die trying' movie sounds right the [ __ ] was I don't know officer I know what is fab

a few times to I'm not only remember all the records I

knew I wouldn't do it down why tell him do that do what do you think fab he

did comment on the picture would kind of like to know invite type [ __ ] he said you I would have killed that party oh

you would have don't get it twisted what you would have doing but I would have

just left that alone Rory brought up interest interesting point too what's that because that's what I'd be home

thinking about pause like just the 360 degrees of separation in hip-hop mm-hmm

Jana is weirded family never been back yes we not

cook six degrees it's like two degrees of separation a about that too you don't think is weird that they've never done

anything even would French in the mold in the middle there yeah I figured at some

point they would at least ended up on a writer backs like think this through that make sense fab and drink is like a

easy yeah that's like a you with French first of all on that and I

wear yo stylus record fad would be great on that but we would smoke that record yeah and meek see you got to pay

attention here Drake loves all the [ __ ] in that era and the acts like it

you just don't have

me Confed no records yeah a butch they have a bunch that's my point

it's weird yeah and now he's a picture floating around of meek holding up the ovo chain with the UH with the

Dreamchasers chain right y'all seen that mm-hmm all this all is well all this we

did know that a drink miik record was coming at some point and especially when it wasn't on scorpion we knew weird was

gonna be and that made sense cause drake like to get in his future bag like he

might not want you on his album but he'll want to be on yours yeah that's

what you get his rap of [ __ ] over yeah yeah yeah definitely anyone

I'll tell you what all right so since we're on it and this wasn't on a doggy but with that beef that they had meek

has to tear him up oh we haven't believe so yeah have to and

that's not easy but he do you want to do a great job and let's say make a just like a super smash you I mean they're

toofus not easy it's not easy it's not easy it's not easy that's the bad thing about this not easy to do right no how

do you guys it's easy for certain [ __ ] they might try to nah I'll rap each other like if Bush was sitting here and he said it's easy I wouldn't say word no

meek is 100% trying to out rap Drake you think they're gonna make a rapping record know whatever record they make

you gotta kill up yeah I think it'll be similar mmm parks not like it'll be a hit record that they're actually rapping

on I don't think it'll be straight no hook here's your verse here's your verse that's the record I would like to weigh

him and J do I don't think I would actually want to hear them to like on a real I work too hard Beto I would I

would want to hit him too I don't know if that is what we would get from them maybe I prefer that may but I've never

heard them on a great-sounding track I want to hear drinking I want to see

drinking his story two men was kind of trachis a men is meek to me oh yes snare

that snares every time I've ever heard it's been a meek vibe and it's meek

inviting Drake in his world so I don't think that this will be any different everything I heard from Miko new-snippets sound like the meat lab I

don't know if I want that one of me Calvin the Drake father I don't so that's my point if it's the meek vibe

after all this beef [ __ ] yeah I'm totally expecting for me to have a top-notch

performance on his record that's the one that he spent some time with he didn't

he didn't just lay that one and turn the phone on and start recording that's what I'm saying that's been sitting there for good I'm sure my family crisp x-drake ya

know saying he was his favorite every knows this knows that's no small you're

not gonna not try to out rap trick on a trig feature forgetting Drake I think

every rapper once they're doing a feature another rap but they're trying to out rap the other person particularly they want to have the better verse they

want to have the more standout and that's why I asked y'all that question that I get it I maybe sounded nuts but

that's exactly why I asked that question to [ __ ] going to studio hmm one [ __ ]

lays his [ __ ] right to [ __ ] in an hour two hours hmm lays it to perfection

it's amazing the next [ __ ] who's maybe equally as talented stays

there for the next three weeks record comes out that person gets all the

acclaim I'm saying the other person's better than us like it factors into my decision not mine my

decision-making that's all I'm saying because nobody else understood what I was saying right no we understand would

you say we would just I'm just the final product is what I care about that's all

how did you guys feel about black Republican when it came out I saw like I never like they were yeah yeah it wasn't

big they saved it with success you know a record I hate successes first heard it was happening I was really looking

forward to it hello Brooklyn with Jo E I hate that record never liked the

record I hated it when I heard together I was like okay we bout to get some [ __ ]

man when I heard that I was like no this can't be it I didn't know what Wayne was

saying hello Brooklyn I still haven't mysteries why

not oh yeah would y'all hear that beat anything Wayne I wouldn't hear that beat they think anymore either see that's the

funny thing I've grown to like that beat alone hey that be by itself is great see

we don't pay attention to J was stuck in that time 2j was stuck in that time

where it was tough for a lyricist and lyricists had to try to step outside of their box to catch one that's when these

records was coming sunshine hello Brooklyn all of that [ __ ] at that time back

that time with the Flossie sound and then oh seven was like coming off snap music J had to find that's what I'm

saying yeah Oh two eras where the music was not for the lyricist right and him

picking those beats with those features well

just doing those Orthodox beats that puffit giving him they were definitely for that era of that movie guitar

what volume one no I'm talking about American gangster I don't

sound like any other musics or period projects for what it's worth interestingly no yeah well how much will

volume one was buck really the Hitman did most of it save on volume

1 yeah I think he had some in bulk I don't think executive produced a he definitely is a hit but good a lot of American Gangster I

wanted to have a theory you know the last record that the title track American Gangster mm-hmm go listen to

Jays verse tell me Jay didn't write that for puff and puff never related oh I've

heard that a bunch a B yes cuz when I hear that I'm like this sounds like puff isn't sound like Jay American gangster

the first song the lasso that just plays one Oh hmm oh now

I can't even go to like a mm party because trick did it say

you can't go yeah what I haven't seen anybody don't want to know they do him

with music not dress like they I've been to a bunch of mm the dress one is dope

though that's a great idea it was a really good idea I wish they would have killed it did know well Drake killed the

theme I'm coming with the costumes they weren't that bad let me it was the laws in the building it was do-rags it was

jerseys oh maybe I didn't see enough pictures yeah I mean how many more how much more yeah y'all was pressed to be

there [Music]

no no no you could open up your phone no but because

y'all don't follow the tick meme or follow the tick tick was there yeah that's exactly - I respect it parks

follows the talk not

to make it sad again but I just thought about my earlier conversation with you guys let me tie in that the stock market

is crashing it's been doing that since the 40s yeah nope nope

well YouTube videos i watch news every morning oh that's really reliable

I don't know what you're trying to say the Dow is down this stock is day I don't know

I'm not joking I don't know where we go in here I'm just saying I tied the stock stock is tied in no all of that are

[ __ ] that I said that's where we see that's where we see our results that's where we see what's happening who's doing what in the universe in the world

that's what all this is for is capitalism yeah so that's why I didn't get the joke I

don't know where we were just wasn't a liable so I'm scared yes okay

you net no that's a lie I'm not scared - it's a lie - it'll be okay we think

everything works I can't tell me two men have it rougher than a woman in this thing that's gear how's

your moving going good I mean how the house how's a relationship it's a little cluttered okay tried

to look for your own things yet I've been trying to find places to put them her stuff is no way to know go away yeah

we wait till you get a little deeper and then you gotta start finding your own [ __ ] yeah that's definitely gonna out that is the house messy yet oh it hasn't

messier than it is when it's just you well my house is extremely clean when it was just me that's my boy right there's

definitely clothes all do you miss your it strongly being moving Tom no it's

been a few days let me help you bro they don't change don't change it gets worse he's not gonna get up one day and clean she's gonna acquire more things to make

it messy great that's not true yeah it's very true hey let's bring in our relationship expert mall to tell us

what's true and what's not just women I know a lot of women that are very clean and very anal about [ __ ] like that but

yeah she's very clean but women have a bunch of [ __ ] that makes the place unclean just cluttered clean and messy

or two different yeah no I understand what you're saying I'm just saying it's a lot of women that ain't know about

that ball park pardon me for not getting like I don't go to you for that but

you go to the news and believe them no I wouldn't believe the news telling me about women than being messy either of

course you know why you wouldn't be a point of reference to anything woman I don't know why you think you so you think I don't have to have any type of

experience with women at all no but none substantial no yeah like a girlfriend

hmm oh I'll get the [ __ ] out of here I'm always done nothing substantial with a

woman okay that's you should Joe Joe think because he just

like he'll get a girlfriend in a week he lives with her like so because I don't do that that's not normal I notice none

that's what you do though and that's not normal so let me just point out but I'm pointing out that that I don't have any

substantial weak smell no I'm adding to this conversation that I am aware that Joe is not normal okay so you can't say

oh I don't you it's time not my point of reference so whose point of reference

are you more I've known you for over 10 years and you think they don't have any substantial

experience women will define substantial know you gotta you define it well you you are telling me in parks that you've

lived with a woman a woman what do you consider living with a woman I don't and the time that I have known you I have

not known you to live long term with a woman I consider that to be substantial right one well what's the long term have

I spent years woman living with a woman oh well not years oh yeah oh yeah yeah okay

for sure what else would I say is substantial because that's a good question long long term of a

relationship and there's only one woman that I know you to like actually have ever claimed

what's her name claimed that important but but

that's what I mean by substantial but that does your information is coming from but that

doesn't one relationship one instance one like nobody hasn't me because you

don't I don't have what you have as far as like in relationships I'm not putting me in this understand

it but that doesn't mean I don't have any type of substantial like experience with women because you haven't like had

a long-term living girlfriend or haven't had a long-term relationship with just one girl well I like to hear from like I

like women because you do know guys that have a bunch of different women that they [ __ ] with and they can tell you a

bunch of [ __ ] about women yes no that's true that's a valid nuts valid

okay so I'm just tryna I'm just sayin I'm out of course that's valid right this specific conversation was about

living with the woman right so if that guy that [ __ ] a whole bunch of chicks were to come to me and have this bevy

and knowledge about women my next question would be same way a small how many woman have you lived with how long

have you lived with them let me see with all the women about the clean clean

thing because even if a woman doesn't live with you if you go to her house and house [ __ ] is always spotless and clean it's safe to

assume that she's a clean woman no I

don't see how she lives with you because she can't if she can't be around myself

when you have a girl coming to your crib you clean it up a little bit right typically but must my spot is always

usually clean so you put a little extra sauce on it you clean a little bit you spray the spritzer Ritzer

in there some most of us thought a Harlem saying that he would have yes

some bud light's all you spraying in this I would pray that chick that young coming

through just so I'd have the wherewithal to get up quickly no but that's house dirty where we come out let me just tell

the listeners boy was i nasty when I was four breezing the bed like if you

thought my smells don't wash you smell fantastic my if you smelt the Febreze then she said boy are you nasty and I

was nasty [ __ ] may know really nasty sure

MA what you saying about it about a woman having a clean resident theater

Philly different I've ever you that - I just don't see how it changes when she's living with a guy because she's just

added a variable like living with a guy is a variable what she's what you see

when she knows you're coming over is not necessarily what it's like on a day-to-day basis now one thing I think that's universe you know what it's like

oh it's like Herc her crib clean when you go to see her is like looking at her

Instagram pictures that's true we never get to see these chicks when they

don't have their Instagram face on although sometimes you get the hashtag bare face yeah but even that's phony

show me to wake up the bare face is never too big show me what happened when the smoky eye didn't go as planned

show me her tagged photos cuz sometimes they'll forget to untag the crazy one

that's where you find out what she really look like this I tagged photos I know what's going on cuz it B sometimes I want to put put her to pick up a sin

that I think she looks amazing you fool you fake enough on no

girl yeah I see Santa's in the crib chillin she been look normal like women

away G woman's view of they how they look as different tricks that's one

thing it's crazy textures Rory have you gotten into the uh have

you gotten into her giving you permission to do something that she really didn't want you to do yet I know

you've experienced that because he's in a long-term relationship I'm telling you it's different when you live with somebody

at a week before Eve adlai days yeah okay yeah I can see that oh you know and

y'all are gonna laugh and say it changes but for the past time ever many years she's been cool about that [ __ ] she

really don't stressed the way other women have that updated irori really does have a girl he don't deserve don't

deserve you

an idiot Thanks all right I'm done with you now girl pull up to the spot like and just be a saint part of us roars

groans great well I mean I know how to move in a room full of vultures so do

not walk these

[ __ ] nowadays I don't believe that today's [ __ ] ever had to move in a room for the vultures today yeah no it's

worse than no way no I was referring to ex women and that the

vultures y'all are talking about from what that bar was I

know we tell me toward the real [ __ ] version the vultures ya know women that's me now you know that ain't that's

that's G no it's definitely JV yeah JV talk about a roomful of voters parties

don't even exist like that anymore so it's like and I owe you [ __ ] the day parties is there to have fun nice that's

very true the only Bob makers like yeah that kind of bull sure vultures right

just launched it's certainly just which is a good fam anytime and time I was

ever and I tell the story all the time but it's just any time I was ever in a room full of vultures it was kills

around girls like killers that's like no we have a real conversation

about some of the things that women are attracted to but is some real sick stuff yeah let's animalistic was

its protector its alpha male it's it's that's what it is you're right I'll tell

you this one judge Reeves you want Iowa the girls that like the killers I just

thought imagining they're a brain okay yeah

men men do want the father that left them cuz I don't yeah cuz I don't I don't want that chick because her dad

two killers

we've got there from the

scary girls is the ones that had the dope boy father that was in their life of the whole time and still is not the

one that left like toy thank you he's still very much chillin

[Laughter] got you one day but like for real toys

a girl boy would have been a sick dude should

I be thinking about anyway roomful of voters I'm often asked yeah well so what else is important way to talk about

[ __ ] all podcast but [ __ ] talk about so many Will Smith did

you see the episode with him you know Jada on the Rings watch and none of that really wow you would like that oh no wow

well first of all don't really have time to watch it second of all you busy the

second that I have to talk about is this :

you know boy everyone's real shakes Rory's the fake besties mine

you're honestly you bet thank God we [ __ ] I'd be retweeting [ __ ] and uh it's fake I'll be liking a photo set

one time she was grilling besties

support now now why are you really here son I was texting the group chat without

you like girls [ __ ] is wack yeah I wanna hear from women about their

group chats to well women have the group chat then they have the group chat that's without one person that's that

group chat is going if they're texting in the other about them [ __ ] sure yeah yo women are the

greatest creatures in the world they really a greatest I'm telling you did great alright we was telling my something Will

Smith alright I came in here and I asked these gentlemen if they were sick of Will Smith yet companion hey hey plot twist

audience if you're familiar they all had zero idea what I was talking about they were all really what

do you mean how could you say [ __ ] losers anyway nothing

that you saying they just love everybody like Rob Markman to mall Markman parks Markman Rory Markman Erikson Park

Markman and save on Markman [ __ ] Joey Markman so

really really see the bear you see how it's called Jojo mark yeah not yes Oh

new Joe yeah definitely this guy what you were saying man let's talk about

will there's a Joe mark there

is anybody in here speak to it anybody anybody this is a podcast yes and we

speak I'm not gonna say it's what guess with us cuz we keep you grounded that's why this is so great that's true anytime you do guess with anybody else you than

before and then 10 minutes interview like I didn't even know you was like this you're so great that's what happens

when you meet people thousand would like you can

say this issue of Rob Markman that's he meet the people would think they're great people oh that's what you're

saying no mark me drop my rob Etan my music I'm so about liking somebody when

I meet them he meets the people and he likes them I

think because I'm the narrative fake narrative king like according to y'all

y'all are now just trying to counter that by just pushing the bunch of fake man you are the things Rory has come up with at least 300 fake narratives in the

past week that's why I he's the fake besties by girls is like I'm watching him know about

me in the past five years where was it yummy fake net you started this

you know fake narratives you've created about me and five-year-old slider Rory no I've lost track I don't know how many

I don't even check my mentions anymore because I know it's some [ __ ] in there from

some Joe fan that yeah was like oh whoa Joe said this so it must be law and I'm like dog that was a lie someone told me

today I made forget on Rage Against the Machine be a one verse that was my fault yeah it was it was you chopped the other

verse there was no all

right no come on we tell my some important know Will Smith we were talking we don't care about [ __ ] Will Smith no no yeah listen I'm watching

Will Smith man I'm watching Will Smith because his instagrams greatness why'd

you pointed your watch if you about to say it's about to be over [ __ ] outta [ __ ] out here we'll split for president

man nobody to your votes I believe

unique on yet oh great firstly Will Smith Will Smith I'm watching Will Smith

closely man Will Smith is doing a lot can you imagine if Jaden Smith was in the White House James Smith is watching

the Will Smith closely to Jesus fake besties Willow Smith Jada Pinkett

Smith they all watching will close yeah cuz he's got this scrim jail never seem to share and all his enthusiasm about

whatever you'd be excited about at the moment and I'll be I'll be quite frank with you me would you be excited about

your dad jumping out of a helicopter no well my daddy just had a surgery my

dad's o replacement my dad right now is fighting what's that

called I don't even know what it's called but it's bad bail palsy well

where's the pop it's my god wait where's the pyro for sure

yeah man you know what that goes unsaid here I was in a bathroom earlier

thinking man I don't know why I don't tell the fans to pray for us like pray for us I pray for y'all pray for my

family boy do we need it pray for long Rory people all these news just

keep anybody in your prayers whoa slow down wrong button yeah I think the

things works yeah I think that's important keep everybody in your careers life is short now yeah I'm just watching

Will Smith that's all but these guys don't care and that's when I walk on the ledge and sound stupid until whatever I'm saying happens ten months later and

then these [ __ ] sharing my [ __ ] acclaim we called it here we called it here first

[ __ ] would get tired of will no [ __ ] shut up [ __ ] say it's gonna and then if

it raised ten months ladies sad so Jobs gonna rain right like eventually it will rain eventually people will get tired of

Will Smith that's just not today just not right now who are you tired of you

Luffy tired of give it to me stand on the

ledge Who am I tired of yeah man the [ __ ] up for a change I was tired of on

here before it was there was a hardest one said I was tired of like I don't particularly care for them anymore

remember who it was who you time salute I love everybody though I just want to

see everyone win true I hate that line cuz someone has to lose so less and you don't want to see every before cuz then

that mean there's enough money out here for everybody sometimes there's not you don't like that one no

don't I don't want to see everyone win I don't think there's enough money out here for everybody I'm starting to understand why this podcast works this

is like there's money out here for everybody no that is but there's someone has to lose at some point no now that

everyone can win that I agree I want to know how much sometimes you lose and sometimes you'll win so I don't care to

see everyone win I wonder how much money all do say that gives me time

to do say nickel pockets at least we have a counting over there tell me pockets you

count any pockets okay but sometimes I be trying to I'd be trying to help my friends with your 5-year plan but I

can't go long we know nothing to do say please just to see how many

people in the room and start doing the math no that's my mom do it all online oh

no I know that man there's a lot of money the last one was 5 floors in Brooklyn yeah I

sure had a venue I've never seen yeah yeah shut

[Laughter] up looking Ross no I should have to pay for that see what

else is important more brought up a really cool topic when he walked in about how

can you really tell a specific characteristics about a woman by the tattoos that she has mmm tattoos are

very telling something is a single to tattoo schools this

[ __ ] picture this game puts up seeing God is crazy it's me web nitty schemes look at this outfit but that was that

was the fits back then though this is nuts airbrush even Nitti looks crazy Wow all right

2001 what no what I gonna tell Nitti you look crazy this

is yellow too yeah super oh Jesus all right a turquoise bandana

Oh dolphins go crystal streets way to style that one what

was saying what beer come on so much no yes yes yes you got you have to

be able to speak tattoo and when I say that I mean by when you should see a woman and you can see certain tattoos you have to be able to translate what

those tattoos mean a lot of [ __ ] don't speak tattoo back tattoos or can you give us some example

do you have tattoos well mm-hmm yeah you just been a you've been a loser well now you've been accepted in so many cool

circles yeah cool why and I have tattoos you don't

have anything internally that you've struggled with that you want to show externally on your body is

it not something look cool no struggles

any white boy you seen as Rory's age with a

full sleeve on one of the arms he just thought it was cool no way these

before the dilute so what so what internal struggles do girls be having when they get the Black Panther on their

arm back

tattoo but when they get or when they get the tiger scratches on their breasts like

those how

do you guys feel about the star behind the ears coming down this way the lips on the door the stars behind the I mean

you can tell her anything yeah and she'll go for it I'd be a bit more interested in where they got the tattoo

because if they got it at a tattoo party you could [ __ ] our friends too yeah I literally do go home and think of ways

to increase our woman audience break

through the ceiling right here the star binds the star mine the ear was good when the first girl thought of it it was

like artsy about cursive on the ribs that was another one that was art the holes ruin everything cuz that was an

artsy one too until the hoes liked it yeah then it was nice job you came to write cursive on your boobs no more you

ever see a woman get like the whole like a kid like a whole piano her ribcage and she doesn't know how to play the piano

at all well she likes music those are the greatest greatest ones or taquoia

that's that's how a chicks start her music career she get music notes tattooed on her mm-hmm I never thought

about that so understand it's speaking it into existence if you will the unfinished corphish's top to toe when

it's not even colors tap tune is not - yeah unfinished koi what

is what does that tell you um she's still finding herself she's still searching you saw her the way

she's committed but not fully yeah I think I could beat any Spanish chick

with henna coming [Laughter]

[Music] back to the crib for an hour

a handful sure yeah I'm gonna help you get all that hand off yeah y'all a little bit older but a tattoo inside the

lip oh yeah when that trend started lip piercings - because chicks would just come up any sort of brownie lifts down

and show you like I have love tattoo - my love when I have a love tattoos out there mom

will soon how how far on the ledge have y'all ever walked with who

and what you were attracted to cousin Rory just said that Rory just said that

[ __ ] about uh you know the chicks would inside their tongue inside of the eyelid [ __ ] all right tattoo and packing Oh mm

from mm mm - it was a wild phase for me with a bunch of the chicks that were

getting their tongue tattooed goth yeah the Special K chicks yes

100% never seen a chick with it some does ooh

you've never been sailing factory you know heart is the tattoo your [ __ ]

tongue it's rather easy no I don't believe it I don't

believe it I'm not rolling with this probably eating the hot pizza yo you know fam your tongue can glow in the

dark tattoos ooh that's one your new chicks was no wait so tell me more about

the stressful day chicks really

stupid he's become really good at those fourth Mike jokes like that just going

and kill [ __ ] you say it's like biting cold pizza I mean same

pain I'm sure a

[ __ ] needle digging into your tongue it bit bite now balls not for somebody

who doesn't have a tattoo anywhere I could muscle doesn't hurt as much fam

I've bit my tongue by accident and [ __ ] thought I was gonna yes she'd knock the T out my tattoos

don't hurt is lyin y'all are funny I hurt I follow what you're gonna

Instagram today and she posted a surgery vid but a demonstration but it was a

cartoon and it was demonstrating a tightness a woman no she's right it

was demonstrating how a sex change is done when the doctors

end and really really really informative cartoon video but boy was like crushing my dick like

ever before after I saw that video oh it's crazy you know but it's like really

easy to do know that she just made that [ __ ] skin crawl no

I don't it's informative I don't want to see that all right I don't even know why

she exchanged cool I don't

hear anything oh that's cuz I [ __ ] some [ __ ] up sorry it sounds alright slider yeah alright

I did like that no suspense for the next episode guess who's not getting a sex change here you

did like what work uh the topic of experimenting with women that probably

wouldn't be your type that's what I'm saying y'all yeah I asked questions that I think are good your answer well no but

Parks's whipped me on that yeah so I mean like what it'll an hour dirtbag this is pretty similar I have

experimented with the women that sleep on my younger years with the chicks basement smell like pure cigarettes and

sleep on the mattress at our uncle's house like I've experimented with those sticks and I've experimented with the best in a white boys like my

regular ones that sound like a regular white boy trip but no I have never left no stone unturned

in in women I was interested except for the Special K chicks apparently uh yet in that way yeah dumb chicks I am just

stay in your pocket your whole like high school career no cuz

that's where I was like really drove up figure things out what does I mean that's pretty much everybody I was just

take my [ __ ] I was definitely not doing that in high school I was into the drugs yeah you even go there so I wasn't

born into the woman well that was your vice drugs yeah so

everyone just [ __ ] pretty chicks their whole life my bad I

don't think no man walk I've seen some [ __ ] baby moms like before they made it okay that's what struck them was uh

what was the first time now snow before [ __ ] got the bag I see they be oh yeah

I see what she was into it wasn't always the bad [ __ ] huh yeah but I don't even respect the [ __ ] if you don't have a baby moms you have to have one ugly

baby no you just can't have two but

if you do if you just got a whole slate

understandable

for sure I get it I see what you was doing anything how early did you guys smell some funky

[ __ ] pretty early first the last time actually I think you always know I'm not rolling why you

ain't only smell one funky [ __ ] your whole life well I think that's true [ __ ] no have you [ __ ] three women why

smell only one funky [ __ ] there's been more differents for certain women it's a good obviously

guys it's not always you know it's all you got ever do is say oh dear first of all

no every man has smelled a lot of stinky in

his life it's not true few mole have smell on that fascia well

it's crazy I'll be [ __ ] a lot yeah mom how much do you [ __ ] because

of what you do and what I think you do clearly it's two different things are

you out here oh I'm not so don't wait I'm

have you ever been out here okay with

myself I mean it's been a few it's been a few years let's pause I don't want thinkest thing I'm talking about you

listen there's a lotta DEET don't be fool it's a lot of these [ __ ] out here have herpes honestly

good TSA I think they're nasty and I think that you women should be careful

and men I think y'all should be careful cuz [ __ ] they run around freely divulging their their conditions it's a

lot of you [ __ ] with burning nasty bits you're nasty it's true yes but you

have to be responsible and devote that information to your partner that's how things spread their Nana we've got now

that we got that little PSA out of the way now you would you would think man these [ __ ] run around just before

these stinky [ __ ] have you been in been in and smelled is two different things yeah okay well mall uses condoms

dude oh so that's important to note here but you see you can smell like I've smelt women that wasn't fresh and I was

like nah like in the club if

you're a woman I apologize what do you do just stop [ __ ] before you smell [ __ ] before

you get a pin it you just most name [ __ ] before you I think the better question is are so what do you do then

me about a nose thing [ __ ] that's not having it yes you are no I'm not you got

me [ __ ] up I'm not [ __ ] hosting [ __ ] I'm Way too old to be [ __ ] Steen so what percentage do you think of women

that you've been intimate with enough to smell their stink [ __ ] boy that was

nasty I know what percentage do you think I had this is I'm someone when I

was a young you young you lose out here he's isn't 1617 so you just nail him

with your Rory but as you get older you're not doing that just keep your hands folded now

I was the only one with more saying that I have like what percentage do you think of the women that you've been Cowboys an

Irish drunk as [ __ ] in dumpsters inside

the dumpster fine we'll just talk about my demons and yo yeah I'm just you know I put the top tier of chicks bodies no

my factor list is good that's whole life I told you there is levels of

odiferous nests oh do wrists knees was like offensively bats boxes

the real sign is also in the room next door yeah

all right the Hawks line [Laughter]

I'm with parsing this one more but I'm not man enough to talk about it anymore I

don't think every dude just smells a bunch of nasty vagina I just don't know not I'm not saying all the time but I'm

saying parks bases had once won his entire life I'm this is which this is

the reason I'm with him let's talk about seriously for a minute different people provide different sex smells stinky

stank Monday you know it's between a sexy smell and these folks stinky stink all right that's to talk to everything

Thank You Stan I'm talking about vagina that smelled so bad like dude you're not

[ __ ] that bad sometimes it's the summertime you're out you know I

mean like it's not gonna smell like [ __ ] fresh daisies every single time not sayin out having sex with someone

else that didn't smell like [ __ ] potpourri didn't stink that's not a mole and I are talking about yeah you

know what else no smelly box smells like yeah don't it happens y'all know not blaming women for it it happens I know

me and parks are saying that it's not a common occurrence for us to fornicate what he's right not either our mawla

dies that's not what I say I'm just saying we've come across some in our day not saying you going through with the

activity but you smell it and that's why my question was like how if you if you whole play plan would really enjoy this

might I album that case like I'm gonna get mad no no I'm just as

crazy I'm not believing it but that's you know I don't I'm not parks his prerogative not 1000 position is

Odysseus Ness what was a difference is our differs Odell

what did you guys hear the tire in the Jeremiah

no what's next

Rory let me know ask about it Rory let me opiod no we did well

what you did last night why you are look up to this guy's like what

I went to uh I went to the UM hopefully dodge listen to all response so you went

to the listening party for album that you've heard mm-hmm if

you don't think that's Mixy Mixy wheels the party uh the vinyl you only that's

mixing no vitals very hip well I will say you don't go to listening parties to

hear the album no you can never hear you can never hear judge involve even still go to listen but why do people go to

listening parties bill that funds may have you know email me now listening

parties don't be fun that's true it yeah what's the last listen party went to that was like a real good time whichever

one had the best open bar exactly yeah yeah that before damn that album release parties

day that's why I'm on this party all

right I hate his mom I mean the listening is the album release party more or less we talked for a long time

today but I thought I was I was gonna come in here and ask you all about who

had it tougher trying to come up the rapper back then or the rapper today

back then back then well I'm repeating myself I think the

rapper that doesn't make it is way worse now than they were back then cuz you could pretend to be a thug and then go

get a FedEx job if your album doesn't now you have to now you have tattoos on your face and allene addiction not only

don't make it not only that if you get like a certain amount of notoriety and you don't really make it like that's

tough like if you kind of get right on the cusp and don't really make it then you got to go work it like Applebee's

well I think there's more ways to make it now that's trend there was back then Wester you kind of had one lane where

you really could eat of course there was some indie artists but not the way there is now there's kids on soundcloud that are millionaires that I have no I if you

told me their name I would have no idea that's true no zoo festivals in tour like I yeah now you could even gets a

little easier now just with how many lanes there are that's all you could be if you could break [ __ ] jingles for TV because hip-hop is so Universal now

whereas back then you could not write hip hop song yeah like if you didn't get signed to Def Jam I don't know how much you could do right and if you got signed

to Def Jam there wasn't a guarantee that you were gonna do anything right I agree with everything that y'all is saying I

think I just disagree on the answer I think I think the kids today might have

it on myself and I used to feel like y'all explain because

today streaming has has made music open like the ocean

in my brain so I try to think of finding something in the ocean that's

a tough job it's a it's a it's a like with so many like I agree like back then

back then it was tough y'all are right we had to show up to the [ __ ] label get somebody to here to [ __ ] them

there was a whole tedious process and that made it tough it was very hard to be today that process isn't is no longer

its eliminated like Rory said you can make you can do whatever you want from however because there are a million

rappers and had a flight to the sea I think that part would make it a lot if there's a million more rappers a lot

less labels a lot less attention the budget attention span the budgets are

much smaller now like they don't need as much for those reasons you do now that's like you could record in your career with a mic it's true but the button that

sounds more yeah but then what you still need money from way I agree but the way you needed a

budget in the early days kind of made sense because of all the things you had to do and physical copies and yeah music

videos had to be crazy the equipment was nuts you couldn't just get a 5d camera and go with your man's down the street and get something that gets 5 million

but I also didn't need a video back in a day because I couldn't I couldn't a

trunk and drove around and so much I believe that that's true let's say a bunch of things though unity is way easier today for

artists to get on why isn't it tell me why there's pros and cons to both yeah really I don't think there's a

definitive answer but tell me why I think that no it's a definitive answer only because with the internet yeah

right there are people even the way music is recorded just easier to like

our artists can be joking be in New York right now laying a version if he wants to get a feature from artists that's in

LA he could just send me make it beats okay okay so now you have artists you

have artists that are all over the world it's an artist in London right now that we can literally open our phones and he

can go viral right it was like oh that dude is nice he's killing it we would have never heard that initial on 5 I

agree with Jody what I had to do to get hurt in New York City in 1995 you're right so this is what I'm saying now

while it's more cluttered because more people are have access and trying to do it you just got to be nice and nowadays

you don't have to be nice you just got to be popular I disagree with everything more than you can disagree but it's the

truth you can be you don't have to be talented no more let's talk to reckless listeners now so

who do you have to be nice and rap anymore to make it that's true there's got to be pot if you're popular that's

true if you've gained a following on social media yeah but people will put something behind you that's more of a

reason than I think it's tougher yeah and I would say to counter that to counter that the way that people portray

themselves on social medias not necessarily actually it completely is untrue about what you're actually

bringing in income wise just cuz you look dope on Instagram does not mean you're making any money you don't think that was even gage back then yeah do

you know how hard it is to amass a following right online why do you think

most of these people are lying and purchasing their following account to perpetrate a fraud it's not I don't

think it's hard to match the following I don't think well I mean labels were

buying CDs than to a [ __ ] every day and just start knocking [ __ ] over

the storm running out the store and he's gonna gain ten thousand follow will say I will say as an indie how is that hard

I will say as an indie or mid-level at least artists it was a little bit easier in packing the day for the reason that

now you put out a CD or album whatever the

streams say you say yourself 3000 copies now with streams that's nothing you know

I'm saying back then you could go out and hustle 300 actual physical CDs and make way more money than you'd get from

30000 series you the conversation is changing that oh I'm just saying that it's easier today to even get to the

point where people even know who you are they say but no Joe's kind of rage rate

in this I'm not rolling here for people to know who you are today than it was no it's not it's harder to tell what it's

hard to tell who's good and who's not good in this era yep we know it's not yes I supervised

this song yeah but they're selling your

mail cannot point parts is easier today what are you talking about nah it's not easier to snake it just made my point

and let's say nice now do you say like he made your point and get that because you don't even have to be nice today and you can get on and pop and sell extreme

[ __ ] songs that's not making your point all right cool now on what's next on the docket you're just switching dockets boy I didn't know

since what I said that wasn't true like I cool no I'm he wasn't proving your point but

by making a point he was he just said today you don't even have to be nice and you could stream as [ __ ] load of [ __ ]

song it's harder to tell who's good and who's not good back then no it's not harder to tell today if first of all

conversation

now these mad songs that come out weird [ __ ] don't know what if it's good or if it's not good pop

now way easier than it could back someone is that no music now you've changed who

you don't the consumers are people that know put the music is yeah I'm so when I'm saying is today it's

easier because the consumers will support anything just because some party is popular and if they put out a song

they're gonna stream it because that person is popular yes but I don't have to be my counter to that back in the day

is if you're really good people would consume your because you were really good today if you're really good people will consume your future what do you

mean since that's true there's a lot of top-selling rappers are the talented there's a lot of tops top roping rappers

that don't sell [ __ ] yeah they don't go back to malls point of saying you don't even have to be talented to be put on that's what I'm saying but I'm not

seeing how that point argues anything that we're saying yes you don't have

actually I think that he's proving my point yes today you don't have to be talented to be put on which means

there's a hole it's the the the floodgates that have been open there's a whole bevy of people in that are not

musicians don't you think that's harder if that makes it harder for the musicians it's not just happening it's

harder for anybody to get noticed if there's 30 billion people doing the same thing and there's no there's no

dichotomy for what's good or what's not good no there's a calm in the 90s I was nice right guess what I was getting

going right period [ __ ] that's nice today is getting all natural not sure what do you mean there's mad super nice

emcees that do not get any love and produce if I please

what are your two successful selling records getting notoriety getting weight and let's be clear just because you're

super nice to meet you can make a good album just cuz you can wrap your ass off told me you can make a good album let's get that out the way show cuz it's a

bunch of [ __ ] that can rap that can't make good music that's true absolutely and that's kind of I don't know why he

keeps saying that when every other breath he keeps saying that you don't need to make good music to be in music I

don't know why I just one you confusing I'm just saying like now it's easier for [ __ ] to get on because consumers don't

even if a person is popular just because they like the person because the like if girls follow a girl on Instagram they

say IG model beautiful girl bunch women follow a bunch of guys follow her if she decides to start making music today and

she puts out a song people gonna stream it because of her popularity they never heard a thing before they don't have to

disagree with you I think that CD I'm looking at Atlantic is signed seven

of them we've seen it happy that don't generate about that you don't have to be talented anymore just write popular and

we're gonna put the Belgian easier what do you mean it because it's very easy to get popular but no that's in one case

when what I'm saying when I when I mean easy meaning like I said it can be a rapper in Africa sure in the 90s we

wouldn't you know what he would had to do to get eggs you're absolutely right though so so what I'm saying is it's easier

meaning that there's other there's so many ways to access the world absolutely it's so many ways to get into right now

if I just hashtag [ __ ] a puff on Instagram it just flood oh my he's gonna

see one of my videos that maybe then I'm sitting this was 500 million other people doing the same [ __ ] so this what I'm saying I could get a meeting with

puff why he's not even in his office I'm just finished it to his Instagram I'm tagging him so you're not getting a meeting with puff I'm what I say by

meeting he's gonna hear me I know what you mean so that's what I mean by it's easy there

are no more demos [ __ ] gonna come on how many links do you listen to her a lot we play sleepers we have people

[ __ ] me too I write generally do how many people have you like actually become a fan of and a lot I played some

of them on this podcast a lot I find a bunch of dudes that I just hear on the internet I'm like oh he's high now he

may not have a great project right but it's a couple of Records I'm okay Z I believe I believe more when he says I

believe Rory when he says this this room you shouldn't ask that here that's true do I believe that the Wilson

in Wyoming is doing the same thing not at all he's not no no the consumers because the times have changed that's

what matters Sam okay probably no right or wrong to what you're saying I'm thinking about it because I actually

speak to a lot of these artists that are trying to make it and say when they asked me for advice and what they should

do like I used to be very arrogant about it I used to tell him to get the [ __ ] out of my face because y'all got the

internet we didn't have the internet we had to go to the label we had to force somebody to win and when we give up some

eye our demo they throw it into it so that used to be my teeth but then the

more and more dumb things that kept coming up to me and it's and and expressing all these concerns I was like

wow it's got to be to these [ __ ] in the internet age because of the very

reason I'm saying it should be easy because it's so anybody anytime I remember rap and I keep saying here

remember rap when it went from two [ __ ] on the Block rapping to five [ __ ] on the Block rappin to the whole block rapping when the whole block

rapped it was nasty yeah yeah it was nasty and it was tougher to know who was nice actually the only [ __ ] that was

nice was the [ __ ] you knew it was nice I remember when I was one of two people that made beats my own town and now the whole town makes beats and that made it

more difficult so if the Internet is there but I don't see I don't think that that makes it difficult because the real

is always gonna prevail sure to me I don't give a [ __ ] how many followers somebody yes

that's gonna always speak for itself that's always that's true to a degree but really well ultimately makes the

cream rise to the top is your work ethic honestly work ethic and if you really have is if his real talent did yeah cuz

anybody could get hot anybody can have a moment for sure I don't have moments

every year so negative has a moment how often it is only once the moment in

this era it's easy to have a moment that's where I agree with you it's easier to have a moment in this era for

sure to make a career I guess yeah I put a lot of [ __ ] house in a lotta but I blah blah but now the reason why I you

know this era to me is amazing it's because it's opened up just the the thought process of a lot of these young

kids right like I remember when I was younger my mom she would I used to get

yelled at for listening to snoop and no and no say Belarus NWA like my mom's didn't let me listen to today's

normalized so net no it's not normalized now when kids are listening to certain rappers I'm sure their parents don't

want them listening to that [ __ ] but you can't knock it because what came from that generation to me listen it took

gangsta rap dr. Dre came from that ice cube came from that right Snoop Dogg came from that like these are prominent

figures in hip-hop who have gone on to do legendary [ __ ] so while you may not understand it when they're kids in the

streets and expressing themselves through what they call their art you may not you know you may not agree with it

but you got to understand that that's the time which is why I really don't knock these young dudes with all the pills [ __ ] at least if that's what they

don't I I'm not from that so I don't understand it but to me they expressing themselves but saying it's easier for

them to get on now because they can do that [ __ ] they can shoot their own videos they can they can build their own

recording studios in the crib growing up if I saw a [ __ ] with a recording studio in this crib that was the most amazing [ __ ] in the world to me see how that

[ __ ] is normal right but I will say this though yes captain conversation the same

thing but that's exactly why when I was putting out records in 2001 then I was recording in this studio not dissimilar

from this and obviously weightless nice [ __ ] but I would put out and sell a couple hundred copies make a couple

grand now I put out a album two or three years ago or whatever it got hundreds of thousands of streams as play listed on

every major playlist in [ __ ] hip-hop and that [ __ ] didn't generate maybe

about the same amount of money but not really so it was easier in a way but that speaks to that scene

we talk about money and talk about and just alright just

a transition away from this specific part of the conversation artists you

know what back back in the day we were incentivized to make an album yeah today

they not really incentivize to do that the payouts the split the royalties just

the direction of music so I mean they're playing a different game today so that's why when you say when you just gotta act

stupid to get high run out there get hit by a car and some [ __ ] I'm like yeah and that's nasty but as it relates to how

money is earned and hip-hop I see why they're doing it that's what it's what all these [ __ ] is doing this yeah and

your era could a single just get hot if you didn't have a label didn't have a

gatekeeper like flex or somebody or know somebody in the street that had that connection could you just as an independent artists gonna sing go to pop

like that Google No Limit I agree there but was that regular it was all

the hits for the most part come from people out of they cribs like if you

Bobby 6:9 check to us all that [ __ ] just comes from this but let me just add let me do so I think it's it's cooler and

easier because now you don't need a connection or a monster you don't know somebody to connect you to be popping me

because you can just kind of still do yes you do you can about its Omni but listen to take me I don't very rare a

record star pop man that's because somebody at this office then caught winning them we need that how you think they call win the internet open in a

[ __ ] phone which is why I said it's easy you opened your phone and saw a quest and looks eight months ago yeah no

I did I'm being Hollow I don't know what that record was before I blew up you be this is not the right room for that come

yeah easier today meaning because like I said these

young dudes they have so much access and they have literally the world is in their palm right so like but there I

think it's a wall she don't get it twisted oh it's a lot of [ __ ] on in it that we still would never see because

it's that trash yeah or there's a lot of good [ __ ] that I see people send me links all the time to I look at the

numbers be like damn you only got 500 listeners on this it's dope though but that but that speaks to their hustle oh

you still got a hustle just cuz yeah you still got to work it that's what it all comes that's why it's important how

many plays did he have on that not many John Smith is exceptionally nice right I know

it's all valid still coming new talent will rise through this [ __ ] there's a million people but that's when I say

Shawn may now it's like I was more so speaking for the guy that is not exceptionally nice trying to make it

well we were trying to say that to an exceptionally

nice now in the 90s if you ain't have you wasn't nice you will have a hard time in any error that is me but I think

that if you're not exactly nice in this era which is why I said it's easier now same

point different views yes okay I put on both sides that's my argument comes from

yeah I'm saying

I'm sad number tired every time we have one of these music talks

are really just think deeply about the state of music and we're is going and we're to be fortunate I guess that I

guess sad honestly I do but then I realize how many dope people are actually out there for sure well I mean

the biggest thing for me like I said is that the fact the disparage between what streams are worth versus what selling

actual CDs was worth and you take off as the whole me that was

nice on the block you so I'll put out a CD and kick off real quick now if you're the homie it's nice and you get thirty thousand listeners you're not even close

to kicking off you're not even close to drawn even listen how much money I had to save to go and get my [ __ ] printed on

CD mass-produced just a handout but at least the comeback was nice you be able

to double that back real quick cuz you sell the CD pretend it cost you [ __ ] two dollars to make and maybe but did

you have to pay for studio time I always had a studio a lot of people had to physically pay for

studio Hey look ya'll is speaking and y'all are speaking about [ __ ] that are

internet savvy that are making a way digitally and you know make using their

tools today the best day the ability it's some people out there in the streets trying to hand people a CD still right so everybody not in touch people

that push it out people that 2018

Joe they're out of touch I

know all them only sell physical and then you get the digital later if you want it yeah that's

a big majority of the music but that's a lot of people that are doing that a

lot that are only selling physical copies you can shop very high that's a

very play a CD vinyl in CDs I'm not saying it don't exist that's all you to

the art very soon people buy their vinyl it's for the art it's not actually is every single thing y'all is saying I

think y'all sound like arrogant entitled [ __ ] there are people out there that are very aware of what a computer is

that just don't are not running around with the information to tell them what to do normal that that's not true we

just said it's a very small percentage that's all you know exactly what I'm saying if anybody it's very small

percent it is running around handing you a CD as their demo they're out of touch I will stand by that I'm looking for a

sleeper where would you even play a CD that

[ __ ] is meant to counter you with the fact that there are people that are making very legitimate livings off selling strictly physical copy we're

just saying it's a small percentage are we not throw back there well I don't have a [ __ ] hand me a CD I'm looking

at it like I just saw a dinosaur one again I don't even know what a plate is I think I don't know wait wait and you and you're gonna assume that they too

stupid to know what's going on currently in music because they have a CD what would you think there's some other

things going on um well I would ask that person why are you still handing me a CD there's 20 18 get a flash drive what if

the CD look fly wait I don't have any way to play a CD either border what if they're handing me that

is like pointless I'm not gonna hear this I agree with you like I will tell you that streaming only just recently

overtook physical as a dominant form of it's not still some way to play CDs left

right I just don't have a CD player anyway I don't like to

sit still it's not that dinosaur ik of a [ __ ] medium it's approaching that

medium oh yeah I guess that's what I was saying the mall I wish you but there's still there's still a lot of money being

revenue generated from from physical revenue that's all say huh don't hand me

no CD I'm more 200% don't have it but my pockets are too tight it's 2018 all

right George you guys arguing and bickering okay you

guys are awesome you

brought it up let me tell you something it was a good Saturday conversation it was a slow week when we did the last

podcast it was low week today and I didn't feel like it all um I feel like I'm a more she to talk to you think

about this is a nasty outfit how

they caught you his bowling form was way too good look at these look at this bill where did you think the green hat was

rock that was true religion down the shirt the pants I

suppose sneakers the Cologne you could smell the Cologne technology Cologne

thanks lotion yeah this has been a great podcast we are getting out of here now

oh I'm getting out of here now I've heard enough of you guys even if you all

stayed I'm getting out of here I'm getting out of here now I bid everyone adieu and keep us in your prayers we'll

keep you in ours I bid you a don't God won't be shocked he already knows we

need to be there goodbye