"Unleash the Flutes"

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his bag right quick for the Saturday podcast sure is one of my faves is

Rory's probably favorite record ever made and when I when Rory gets to the black function and asked for the aux I'm

throwing on I want you this is hat this is his two a.m. record I've seen it it works it works

definitely works we let this rock on a Saturday morning we let it rock how can

you not love this song you [ __ ] right we letting it rock would you do this at

karaoke I do more of like the white people Michael McDonald [ __ ] at karaoke

I don't know if I'm brave enough to get in a Mormon bag see look Marvin nudists with the would see these [ __ ] let the

beat Rock for nine minutes have you seen the video of him recording this he's high as a kite laying on the couch just

with the most beautiful harmonies I've ever heard yes he should be he's just laying on the couch

heis [ __ ] chilling how does your voice

down I'm certain that's how all the greatest songs ever recorded we're made with heroin yeah quaalude hey so man I

missed a quaalude era well it's not yet one up so none of none of what quincy

said affects how you hear this right no no couple me neither I don't care that's why I don't know why

I'm all got out the shower when he was listening to Tom Hanks I mean four is

gone why are you just a to shower wash your [ __ ] a new frame

as gross [Music]

yeah you should be cleaning by now you got some dishes dirty [ __ ] watch

that [ __ ] oh you can't cut this off

every point we looking sued body of state oh she does whoa that was that was

a cover and this is the rori and mall podcast if you have an issue with

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meal all right we are live welcome to

the Joe Budden podcast episode 192 yes 193 god dammit episode 193 I'm your host

Joe Budden here with some of my nearest and dearest friends Marla's here parks is here Rory is here say Vaughn is here

and Ericsson is here I would like to shout out all first-time listeners I want to shout out the entire Spotify

community as well as our YouTube viewer ship gets there when it gets there I want to shout out all of our mature

audience not sure why you guys listened but all are welcome I would like to also

shout out I want you we are not uh which i think is interesting why do

hedge fund people this listen to this podcast to find out how to exploit us

yeah you're right Rory how convenient is that Wow how convenient is [ __ ] yeah

I didn't think he would just give me ally but that was great - exploitable

shout out to everybody listening in hopes of exploiting us we are here to be exploited

hit mall mall at hotmail.com gets a bad

rap sometimes exploitation is good how do you guys think we would do in Shark Tank like the four of us just walked in

with our podcast well let's slow down I would walk in with the podcast I would like to hear

what you guys would walk in with see that's just a nice topic I'm not gonna just reveal that on here why are you ain't going on shark tank no

yeah I'm going here would launch [Laughter]

Halloween where I'm going with this Burroughs he's a pharaoh he's born on

Halloween uh you know what's funny we'll just start with some hip-hop nerd [ __ ] that we probably shouldn't start with but parks and I we're having an

interesting conversation last week cuz I came in here Farrah was in here and they were just all my Simon Says shut the

[ __ ] up but some of that stuff is public knowledge right yeah reports on you know

the publishing side of that yeah yeah I guess but I kind of went through something like that we pump it up we

pump it up yeah and that was the problem

very well but that was the problem there was a fight over who owned the sample

that I used so when I sampled it they were still fighting so 50% of everything

had to just go and be held somewhere because the two sides were fighting and when they stopped fighting about it then

I would know who I had to pay but then I would have to negotiate with whoever won the fight and by that time pumping up

was a smash so of course they would have asked for 99% of of course yeah yeah the

publishing on the record that was not that's in the finals this year I made a shitload of money off a pump it up with

off of 50% that's crazy that's a little

nutty so pharoah would Simon Says I would want to shoot everybody I would want to shoot everybody if I were him ya know ya wanna

see some [ __ ] you made you too [ __ ] feral insider Malvolio

and jivaros 40 parks and be a non-square

penis 10 oh you a wild negative alright

Halloween happened again lonely happen for two weeks it feels like zooms away

we were ahead of it a little bit because we try to be edit things and then it actually happened and snuck up on me I

was totally surprised on Wednesday well let's talk about your your first Halloween I mean not where I

was going immediately boys let's start there all right let's do it Joe's first Halloween I was everybody

bit your Incredibles oh well they didn't have the Hat I felt like I felt like Ari

I'm gonna shut up Rory can get his hat jokes all no I thought was a great touch touch I didn't touch anything

you probably tensions the broom a bunch times I felt like there were a lot of other men in the same situation that I

wasn't like just not giving a [ __ ] about Halloween and had someone in their life that did yeah for sure

eazy-e bro was mr. incredible I can't imagine Ebro running the Party City

himself and say got this in Excel I can't I can't see it if it happened hey

do you that can fit the beard yeah I don't see it like that ebrill the family man he's got he's got

a child so yeah I could imagine him in that situation Freddie Gibbs was mr. incredible who you was - yeah okay

there's a basketball player oh he rappers are all the same I felt better about that that someone is hard as

Freddie Gibbs put that [ __ ] on - I felt tougher pretty good some curtsy but

I know I didn't hear this pass out but the album before that was up for album of the year - me yeah like

was that good it's like a teepee but it was so really dope well I can't tell different city anymore yeah there's no such thing as EP anymore

yeah I guess there's no album there's no such thing as EP anymore Halloween I

noticed that uh I don't know the the voluptuous chicks kind of slowed it down

this year I didn't see a lot of holy [ __ ] that's what I'm saying [Music]

follow fashion oh we got chicks acting like women holy [ __ ] cuz we so used to

it every day we get holy [ __ ] no that's true well that's true yeah how do you a

little mall ISM early they're naked every day I really didn't see that much

uh like we normally do though with the woman this year no I was some creative

ones though I've seen some really really creative costumes I like the creative [ __ ] like when you said you could know people spent like a month or two getting

their [ __ ] together like their costumes yeah you spend a lot of money on it the

women creators need to come up with some more ideas yes like Oh your little Kim again yeah there's only six outfits that

show their curves off so they never venture outside of the six but it was

cool then dressed up is a queen when we went to some party and I thought that she was the Burger King person that made

a really awkward 10 minutes there's only

one thing worse than that one like you get a woman's costume guess wrong is when you tell a woman Congrats thinking

she's pregnant I was just that's the only thing that's not yes that's but that's the Holy Grail the worst but how

did you learn that what's the word doing it yeah that's that's how you always learned if my

don't then so stupid I mean we are stupid

no it's humans then it's men right an evilness I think you got it reversed I think it's me

human especially with social interactions come hi definitely in thought I was doing a good deed

congratulations

whenever you say you're with child is like you sound educated you with child

she's like no I'm not oh [ __ ] like well I'm out that's your exit you have to pay

for the [ __ ] ding-dongs and I was

like yes cards laughs is making it worse

for me why I want to let all the

listeners know that because if the vibe you know you might sense the divide is a little different today so before you

start trying to figure out why let me let y'all know Mall has the hammer on them today No BAM I could tell

I have talking worry I know what is going on

you have a gun yes you do so I just want to point out

before the podcast artists license and registered yeah to all those that are listening mall raises handles it made

like nine times he was talking aggressive to me during like a cupcake conversation like you can tell when a

[ __ ] got a hammer on him like when the [ __ ] is looking for a issue I'm straight more so with that said all

right what else happened on Halloween what did y'all do I didn't do anything I went to dinner then I went home somehow

you know we came in here nice game last night that's who they play the Pistons

that's what's a focal Stanley don't okay yeah just don't see what just everybody

before okay you miss them what you hate

what you can do that what when chicks just dropped the first name funny when

you drop the first name in his night cineq no that's not true you can't use the first name cuz it's

your [ __ ] well you gotta use the first night when the other never say the first and last name never I don't say yo I'm

going to hang out with Joe Budden I'm going I'm just how no Stanley is and we

would judge a girl if she just dropped the first name of whoever she went to go see we will be lit okay but if it's it's

somebody you know personally you could do that but what if a girl said that would you accept if she knows it personally yeah and that's different

it's only awkward it's funny when did you enjoy it in that game with a homeboy to shot the little three little

step-back that's your man no no ball got

mad basketball man's not actually play a little ball it was a good game no a little bit it was good I'm a little

jumper more but on a dive of seven years the

other say all right so listen enough about of shaping on the diet we don't know you very money you got that not

even even we gonna die you still got it can be out of shape monitor or whatever you say wins today no there will be no

resistance from me okay alright no come on up somehow we would we came in here to talk about Halloween and we end up fighting

over Halloween parties somehow and then we bumped in an interesting conversation by mistake

I didn't know the dude was like corny [ __ ] etiquette until we started talking

about parks his Halloween party that he went to with Ian Shive to N Oh y'all did

like a double date yeah part of that is tail on I saw I did have a tail yeah yeah a double date with

Ian an Italian girl with the devil have

a tail yes news to me most pictures of a

devil had day to have horns into this guy was the devil wouldn't you feel like um devilish like they go put a tail on

like sharpie yes did you have to like

well you never say which side to shark the shark tail I've never put it on in

my ass Podcast office a really nasty

dress the critics really quickly know so

we saw the intro and state of the culture try to be masters yo suck my dick haters not that dress the critics they

need to be addressed it's the few of y'all out there that well maybe like three I saw three people

say I don't know average system things started doing do podcast a week like news don't really be talking about

nothing no more let me help you number one we have never talked about anything please point us to

the job we did we're talking now one time and we talked about anything of any importance at all and to Saturday's is

we really don't talk about word so

they've been dressed yeah I addressed the critics such a funny word why are we

addressing them yeah I don't know all right well we told my alright corny [ __ ] etiquette that's what I want to talk about 18 minutes in mall almost

shot me when we were talking about corny [ __ ] like mall says Montes has a lot of

really weird thinking mall says you can't those are corny [ __ ] party have

no idea I said I don't if I think the

promoters a combo I'm not going to his party all the promoters always a Korbel yeah promoters a corporals that kind of

goes hey I just said if the promoter whoever's party is is a combo why am I going it well what if he has the hose

there because sometimes hose give you around corny people like a good DJ or what is not going what if you want to go

to the party and kind of crash it cuz that's gonna hold or now you're you're leveling the playing field because now

you're even cooler around all the corn balls no one's stand up now I know but tell me

why because I feel like there's a bunch of Corning Inc of that program Hardy that you would attend it and have a

great time at no that's not true it depends on like a lot of the times when people go out to go and they go to parties they're going just because they

want to get out the house it's not like they feel like oh this party's gonna be dope like now people go anywhere just to

be out and just to take a picture in seem like they doing something in a poppy that's now now more than ever like

people will go to these parties in these events and it's like you're just going there to get a couple pictures off posted on your Instagram he's social

media it seem like you pop and when I've been that side bending parties with people they say it was crazy and I'm like no it was it that [ __ ] was trash I

do agree that industry parties are particularly everybody's just standing around looking at each other trying to

look faking before info trying to look like they and it's like yo y'all [ __ ] is corny yeah that's not fun to me it's

not fun like I'm at an age where I'm like I know what fun is that's not it standing around watching a bunch of chicks on a phone taking videos each

that's not fun to me I agree that's just me so I wouldn't go to those type of I wouldn't I just don't do that like I

don't I don't do now some of it sometimes you get forced into doing it because you have business there or

you're going to meet people they're like [ __ ] like that but even when you do you like my why am I here that's the first thought in your head like why am I here

but like back in the day you never what - like the corny kids party just to crash it via [ __ ] I mean we you know

I can't I can't well you're young is young and dumb like

yeah that's why that's in the dough but uh when you can decide you I'm not going here yeah I'm not crash I gotta go do

this yeah I'm not doing that [ __ ] like that's just me though okay some people days they still like to go to events even though they don't like

people there and it's like why are you going in and you don't even like them do so you don't like them chicks why are you on to that party not never go to a

party to sit alone you don't think exactly you don't think a corny person could ever throw a pop a party

I'm not saying a corny person can't dope out and party I'm just saying if I feel

like the person that stone the party is corny I'm I'm not gonna I'm not going to that party I just thought that this take

was interesting because it says that you want no affiliation with somebody who you deem to be corny not that I don't

want no affiliation but I don't want affair I don't want a party with the requests I'm not saying if they have a

I wouldn't go if they have you know saying they're getting nominated for some [ __ ] or they accepting a some type

but you know saying recognition of something I wouldn't go and support but you wouldn't but I wouldn't worry with [ __ ] with the corny purse I wouldn't

party with somebody I think is cool I would rather go there we had no caution [ __ ] in it so it's like I don't want to

be around it like that's just meto like I'd rather go do something else it's a bunch of [ __ ] you can go do like other than go to somebody who you think is a

call balls party I agree we did it like

industry kind of Instagram friendly I'm not trying to be I really [ __ ] or

regular little bar Club or something chill cuz I you know why cuz I don't go out for a while and then when I do go out to these

events I'm reminded as soon as I get there I don't go to these invincible yeah soon as I'm 10 minutes I'm like this is

why I don't come like this [ __ ] is cold that is exactly what happened to me it happens every it's gonna happen every

single time I'm telling you that it that's what yeah so it's like wow out

when I get there I say this is why I don't go out it never fails you have to

have you have to have foresight in knowing what you like like I'll double check who's gonna be playing the music

will there be somewhere to sit can I exit easily will the bar be packs will there be oh there's like a checklist of

things I go through before I'm like all right I'm gonna go there my thing is is there gonna be enough of my friends there that we could at least huddle in a

cool circle away from there's so many

double standards I used to hate the girls did went to the party to huddle up with their friends and I'm with them and

now Parks is going to the club to dance among Ian and keep I don't think that's

crazy that you invited if women wanna dance which I'll think y'all should dance with them and I don't support that culture of women just going to the club

to dance with woman I'm glad that those those days over yeah [ __ ] just killed dancing choreographed set to dance yeah

yeah that comes from Instagram he would just dance for 10 seconds now [ __ ] gettin

[ __ ] a little carried away to a Halloween fam I saw a Freddy vs. Jason in a

dance-off Freddy got eight like Freddy was looking crazy like get moving

they're gonna chase and killing you with the move the dancer [ __ ] just keep creating new different ways to dance

they've killed it so that you can't go to the club and dance well there's no more clubs this country's going to [ __ ]

you can't dance you gotta jump up and down the music isn't really dance friendly we rise it's jump friendly yeah

it's all jump run alright so let's talk about music for a little bit are you were at a Halloween party did you enjoy it did you see these did you see answer I

was gonna say what yeah we're people on the phone I'm sitting there I'm sitting there at you know because let me tell

you the miss that what happens with me often is at noon or 1:00 p.m. or 2 p.m.

oh my god where's the party I'm searching for it where it where's it lit

by 6 or 7 I'm ready for bed so at 5 maybe 4 p.m. we had somebody to watch

the baby and my 26 year old significant other I could see it in her eyes

she won't hit the streets oh my god I could see the thirst like the thirst is

makes your eyes glassy when you talk so I'm looking at gloss but no for real

it's important because words and actions have to match so I'm looking at the thirst gloss but I'm listening to I'm a

not sound thirsty to my man mmm like y'all in relationships y'all have

to know that y'all know when your girl is drying it could we do it especially when your girls younger and she wants to

go out and have fun but don't want you to judge her and yes she's a ho yeah that's what she was doing

yeah that's tough so if you go there's none of that thoughts at all there's no

way she could be a ho if you were there what a thing no the thing about that is your girl is your girl and she's so

great because she really does want to be with you yeah I know a girl wants to spend time with stand that

I'm really still me neither spend time with me so sin alone whatever time it was and I

could see the thirst and she was talking like she wanted me to go to I was exhausted having slept woke up at 2:00

a.m. playing I'm obsessed with [ __ ] cool but I always send her out by herself which

is like damn you dad you'd act old [ __ ] like you won't step out with your young

girlfriend because my holiday at 7 p.m. one Halloween and I didn't know Halloween was such a big go out night

yeah it's like y'all what it's a Wednesday - it's one of the biggest go out nights and you I thought it'd be

calm cuz it wasn't Wednesday but they were out there yeah it's Halloween

obviously new year that's another

different cause a different go out so that's like family yeah like I was on

West Broadway last night and that she look like Times Square yeah yeah it was Halloween it's one of the bigger go out

nights so I say this in all right I'll go I'll go so we go we walk in very early 11:00

11:15 that's when I had the Epiphany that yo you're the Corning they're gonna go through the club at 11 o'clock 11:15

now so I was grappling with that in my mind all right you were the free before loving guy yeah

yeah it was nuts and then I felt the little nuts when you know me sin and sins assistant like we were approaching

the club and there was no line no it wasn't no it was packed in the front and

then I could see the hesitation and sin to say she sent her assistant who

probably ain't been to too many industry parties to the front to go check for whatever so now we standing off to the

side the assistant just walk into a crowd and get lost and I look at sin and say Sam you just sent that [ __ ] to dude

like he's not staying inside here no let's just walk them come on we just walk up just walk up let us in soon as

we get in million cameras step-and-repeat know where to stand know where to sit bunch of [ __ ] in my face bunch of

[ __ ] handing me cards thank God God demos don't really exist anymore that might have happened so now go sit

down somewhere had any interesting cards and he follow-ups this morning didn't read the card okay then I go sit down

somewhere I see ASAP ferg he looks great he was Mike Tyson for the night I took a pic

with him then I grappled with that in my mind I said oh you're the guy to ask for a personal picture oh wait you asked fer

usually oh let's take yes hi a split up he didn't initiate it I asked but I like FERC how did you say it let's flick it

up bro no I always thought he go yo levels it out flashed him like I give

him a yo an aggressive tap and then go into what I'm saying hmm yeah let's take

a pic you gonna take it yep I guess by that point so I took the pic Woodford

Ferg went away with his beautiful lady five minutes later Mad Men and black walked up to me tell us we had to move

from the table and I felt a family service because the table wasn't really a table in this very small vicinity it

was just one little square like block but it was two of them put together than one the table so then I felt the weight of these [ __ ] was telling me to move

from the square blocks yeah cuz you were broke boy you didn't do bottle service well I really could they're not man I'm not a broke boy so I said to the hammer

I am in fact nut they broke know cuz I had to remember because I'm used to being broke let's go once they came up

to me like I was broke and I was about the water boy had to buy a table wait a

minute you saw orange juice that's when

they say the holiday prices for the two square blocks a little minimum five it

was only me and my lady there I mean who was drinking all that I swiftly got up well you steal the bottle went to try to

find find a spot somewhere it wasn't a spot I saw the exit sign made my way

there was in bed by 12:15 in the fetal position fell asleep before sin even

upstairs with your costume one mask on

it was the mask on or was it I didn't tell I was sleeping a bit what the mask

all the mask was off did you do the impression did you like the Batman which I Batman voices like when you asked for his regular voice is doing the Batman

Batman voice hurt her come take this

horrible jokes right all right come on

let's crazy that you had the table to even hit the group chat like yo shutting down vandal with the bottles coming

through that's that's crazy let's have a friend are you nobody got joked on for our yo shutting down vandal

right now I wasn't sitting down vandal or anywhere I'm never shutting down the

place when I arrived more business

booming no Joe Budden came in and shut it down well the last time you stayed at a bar

till it closed yesterday you got to judge the person it doesn't yeah I did

it the other weekend I felt terrible it's okay like LA cuz it closes - yeah

you see you see some weird [ __ ] around 3:50 a.m. at the bar and you're still there good people watching just trying

to see just trying to see like men and women navigate within that 10 minutes like oh [ __ ] it's almost 4:00 we have

some decisions to make here especially when it's been like a dark Club and now it's light and you get to see each other looking light never looks like rats cuz

their eyes are all [ __ ] up and that kind of feel like at 4:00 a.m. when these [ __ ] get locked into one of these white boy bonding moment oh no no

oh wait well some ice about mice once

the lights do come on and you do see that person you've been talking to it's already 4:00 a.m. and I'm sure you're

doing something you're not supposed to do so just go with it who cares what they look like for sure know you've made it this far it's 4:00

a.m. know you want to get out of there like 355 for lights come on yeah anyway

TIFF the club closes at 4:00 a.m. you leave it you won't wait out before the lights come on you want you're leaving at 3:55

I like to but the lights on the 355 when

they relate to some [ __ ] well yeah I don't prefer clubs closing at like 2:00 a.m. cuz it's there is girls a big night they

just want to stay like I love partying earlier yeah like once it starts at 2:00 a.m. we could get some food yeah I'm not

gonna want to pass the [ __ ] out the more we get back cuz it's 7:00 a.m. and the Sun is coming up in New York it's trash with it because it makes girls want to

stay out later let's leave I'm going to bed at 9:00 after like I'm dumb when the

group Huddle's up to figure out where y'all going to eat after this younger women cafeteria used to be maybe

reaching the extend of fun yeah I'm not doing like fun yo I used to hate when I

was like in Griffin trying to find chicks and they'd be like oh no well we're gonna go to cafeteria at this [ __ ]

yo can we just like go to my career now I have to pretend to like you more at cafeteria and feed you now let me tell

you why you was just a fool for being and Griffin anyway number one and no dance floor and Griffin everybody went

to Griffin to walk around and look at people was literally a carousel yeah it

was a uterus it was one you turn that's number one no you a broke boy didn't have a section we was dancing in the section no no no

see that's the thing about Griffin to all the broke boys were in a section somewhere just been the best spot I was

like 21 turned 22 during the Griffin [ __ ] I didn't have a dollar and was in

their brewery bottles and this just ended you weren't at 21 22 it just was

over no clothes for a few years now it's been at least four years at least three

or four really mmm yeah I'm out blue I'm oh I don't know neither school no cat

the second thing about Griffin is all the girls that was going to Griffin was all was the negative they wanted to [ __ ]

was there so you couldn't go there to try to get new [ __ ] they was going in your we going to go to

and see one of your [ __ ] and she wasn't one of your [ __ ] Stephon

Marbury but he wasn't it one boy has

some funny [ __ ] me and uncle definitely almost born like 99 isms dude yes 90 now he was a high

school cook me I miss him yeah like once

you're finished beef with a [ __ ] like [Music]

[Applause] there's always over between us always

always yeah yeah cuz women I'm friends

with a lot of women mmm and when you're friends with a lot of wind they'll just talk to you about men mm-hmm naturally

and when they just talk to you about men oh my god or defend the guy don't know yes a great guy

what about have you ever met a girl you was dating ex that she was speaking poorly about and it was great it was

like yeah he's pretty cool yeah he

actually poured me up in the section I'm on his side see my [ __ ] Dione recent

Deon was and they got beef with in like 96 over Rachel shadow Reggie Webb she's that stop talking but me and Deon beefed over Rachel in

like 96 I seen Dianna in Miami summer he was wandering he was like the one of the

first [ __ ] I beefed with over a girl but it wasn't real beef like he made started [ __ ] after I was [ __ ] it

was like that beef just you just kind of mold that I don't know who Yun or Rachel

is yeah but D on the real [ __ ] you

can't get a Stan Lee [ __ ] off but you get your dealer [ __ ] Oh Deon is not famous the other is a real [ __ ] and if

you the streets you might know Dianna is but the biggest embrace talk about MA

right yeah some good guys out in the world it was dudes only usually beef when it's over woman I get me some fake

tension for years what else do you be from hell men you see the women of money yeah that's I mean for me let me speak

for myself I got a issue were to do is 9 times out of 10 because a woman is involved or some month look at women

trying to tear us apart from our male camaraderie you don't see I'm on some some man empowerment [ __ ] I am men is

listen you call it what you want make a joke I'm on man empowerment minim ISM I

don't know all the terminology I'm just noticing a community of people who are

not necessarily the fondest of black men that's what I'm those women women mean

America yeah no see that's where it's

nuanced because yes America

that's our greater fight the fight amongst ourselves is or would be the

black woman that hate black men or black men that hate black woman that's

interesting see because hate is energy yeah so hate

is redirected that this is all Jojo isn't it comes from you know if my men

have dealt with certain situations and exact developer energy towards black men that is not always positive exactly

understandably you know what's funny and I certainly I promise you I didn't mean to talk about this here but I had a long

talk with myself over the weekend over the term who hurt you it's a little

dismissive if you say in a certain tone for sure that's I guess the point of it

right see I think that's the surface perception and I think you know when we

stop and we listen to what women have to say and how they feel when you say who hurt you it is offensive yeah and it's

trying to burn you to a dark place and all these things that you know when it's dismissive you know whatever they say yeah my new perception of that is a bit

different you're saying when men money that's a woman or a woman said when men say it to women what it means when a

woman hears it it's offensive but what a man really means when he says it is why do you seem

we hate black men mm-hmm yeah I can see that so that that are the perception of

things just you know that language barrier between men and women because we're just designed differently hmm but

fight the same fight maybe like we shouldn't get stuck there but like I was

just stuck on how how differently we interpret things as genders because who

hurts you I don't think [ __ ] is saying it well something I don't think [ __ ] are saying it to say [ __ ] you and bring

you to a dark place and can you and hurt a lot of people do use it in that degree at this point not to say [ __ ] you and

brain well not to say [ __ ] you but it is dismissing what they're having to say because anytime motional about something

that hurt them okay so I was about say anytime I've said that I literally meant like damn weren't you like why am I

getting this energy that I'm not deserving that whenever and when you break that line down what it means is

why do you seemingly hate men right what happened before me to make you interpret

some very normal things in a skewed manner or bring that energy to me when I've done nothing to you yes

explaining it that way will be received much better than what has become almost

a hashtag on Twitter right when someone is trying to express themselves about being hers all right who hurts you it's

I totally get how women could find it offensive now of course if you break down the sentence and what you're trying

to say it's okay you're generally asking but now that's not the tone it's become

different it's become a phrase it's a saying I know and that's why I hate when certain phrases are popularized yeah

because it takes away the context of what you're actually saying yes yeah no you can't really say it well I mean you

can you just have to word it differently now because we all have been hurt right everybody in the world if you're human

yeah you've been hurt yeah so that's what that's what women normally see

that's what never hurt his life how convenient they're worried you're Irish

though so Irish people don't that's know yes we just take our entire feelings that we drink it yeah

just take them deep down and then we just die all right ladies and gentlemen time to take a brief intermission let

you know about the hottest show smoking in the streets it's working on my head

voice state of the culture in the mirror and working on your ad voice like rapper

hands is it weird it is weird but devotion when you're practicing huh what

do you read when you're practicing this Oh got 40 hours vans tweets extra sauce

on it this week parts ups enjoy myself

Thank You Rory mad invested in what happened this weekend what Ivy does what

he would've did if I was doing Rory know what to talk about that part was cool as my [ __ ]

uh and somebody told me what up call him Rory [ __ ] and then I felt the way it

was a black dude I felt the way that the black dude would tell me stop calling Rory [ __ ] like my bidness [ __ ] so let

me uh give you in my business my friend anyway uh all right ladies and gentlemen

this week on hustle in Brooklyn things get pretty ugly between Darnell and

Jesse over wait for it Danielle always it's always a day yes we

just talked about our woman to come between things talk about in in your

feelings challenge who was writing no you are you wrote this what seemed like a cast

of friendly competitors is turning into more of a battle of wills you can't tell a hustler what they will

and won't do though may the best man win watch hustle in Brooklyn next Tuesday at

10:00 9:00 central on BT use this week to get up to speed and download the B

team now and watch now Rory has the app ten times

in his phone did you do that if you guys want to use my promo code for that just

typing world it's about if I stop the Joe promo code stop doing this no it

will be two months oh I'm cold Daniel put our [ __ ] code back but ah

mom stuff to pay for this all right what was that talking about something important I'm sure you think hedge fund

people would listen this podcast if Rory and parks warning here yeah like are they token white boys token white boy I

mean yeah I guess by definition if he is the only white person amongst that crowd

there's no such thing as a token white boy I think there might be no if you see before I even say that what if once a

black or Hispanic men hanging out and there's like a white guy in that group it's because they grew up with him they

know him personally he's not just there to be like hey we need a white guy in the group let me let me promise you that

let's keep our crew PC we're not we're not trying to meet like black men are

not trying to meet the white quota like let's have a white boy in the crew and trust me if a white boy is in the crew or a bunch of black dude just because we

[ __ ] with him and we know him for real like we just meet him last year we got to start hanging out with him if we want

to get in these box but is that point but that point might be independent of our argument yes can you be fly with a

white boy and he be the token white boy nah because like I said you genuinely

the token means I was gonna say I think white people are fly with a token black

dude nice you could see when I say token I meaning like we have one but we don't really want them around so see when I

hear token I want to know you have a role offensive term I just want to know you know I don't know what I think a

token when they say a token black guy or talk it's like it's the stereotypical

done for a sake of appearances as a symbol gesture yeah just like oh he's is here

just to just to be here like we need a white boy around just because we need a white boy come on right sometimes when

we look up like meaning right anytime I say something already going me I put

them all this dumb boys not dumb moles like my cousin Walter let's shout out to

Bobby we've got a lot of like wisdom from his journey we don't know anything

about more but there is wisdom there's more wisdom Wallace I'm glad I'm glad we

came to that decision today that I'm having wisdom thank you yeah it could have been worse could've been later yeah thanks I don't want to

talk about young and may allegedly taking bat Wiles girlfriend since it's Saturday and we would never talk about it on it Wednesday just whose bow-wows

girlfriend was who knows listen bow-wow I wouldn't get down and out about this one cuz I think young a

maze is stealing everyone's girl yeah the girl seemed like never here so how would you feel about a woman taking your

girl can I participate at all no but I

know you want to know that do you want to participate not really yeah I mean

hey you probably get some better head have a blast but it wouldn't hurt it wouldn't wait am i way way late stop

I'm in the minority here I don't necessarily concede that fight I don't

either I don't I know not talking about two feet I'm not talk about to say no I'm stupid talk about the gay women that

would probably be better you know whoa hold up hold up hold up I'm saying I don't concede the fight but that's

talking for all men if I'm speaking for just me now my skills is that like a for

the real Dyke is gonna rock my bitch's world yeah so I'm not gonna learn your but see

when I see that I don't I don't necessarily go to sex like if for if you

lose your woman to a woman I don't go to better sex more emotional ocean aliy

yeah an emotional connection and being able to like understand her oh no oh no on a female level wait wait time out no

bring why you don't do you not go to that when a guy takes your girl no I

would go to it nah that's not my first thought no he has more money that's not

me well it's not sex I'm nothing without a say you never have a girl to take what

you mean you think that'll mean like you could be dating a girl and then she go

she stop [ __ ] with you and date somebody else like yeah but she's not yours sort of rules a bit yeah but I'm just saying like - at one point in my

life I was definitely claiming chicks I wasn't with and having them on a set of rules when we were not exclusively

dating Oh chicks love toxic news I'm so sick just don't love a toxic guy well

that's their type explain further what do you mean about toxic a fam what is toxic mean do we have to go to the

dictionary for toxic no but I'm saying what do you mean that women love a toxic guy women love a guy that's bad for them

yeah period like I don't need nothing further animation no don't that that

know you live cease I think you know what it is I think that it's when you

say that I understand what you mean but I think for women it's because I think

we all as humans love what we shouldn't have I think this is a human trait I

think a lot of humans like light a fix yeah projects they want to fix somebody

and that they see is broken I can fix them I could change our and it's like all right but they don't it's a lot that

comes with that though yeah you know I mean like in fixing this is you to deal with a lot of [ __ ] and a lot of

a lot of traits that they like they only want the good traits out of that but usually a toxic guy would be the more

confident probably gets more women is more attractive like women are into that

type of [ __ ] they just don't know what it comes with as well right you can't take that guy and not have the flaws with it because they don't want they

don't want to pay for the quote/unquote crazy girl you don't say like the guys do the same thing they try to fix the crazy girl some guys do yeah brief

intermission I want to address the woman really quickly because they're doing insurmountable damage that I don't think

they know they're doing I thought about this while I was getting my nails done earlier for the lesson for the last

seven months for the last seven to ten months I have been wanting a brand new Rihanna album salmon versus lost like

I've been ready to come to the podcast mind if said it on the podcast at some point yeah that I'm ready my body is

ready I'm in the Navy my body is ready for a new nuria town gives you life when

[ __ ] say my body is ready yes she does give me life okay I call that [ __ ] so getting my nails done wait and you want

the reggae one to the regular what well it was rumored that it said just to all reggae want anything if Rihanna farts

over over a [ __ ] beat I want it are you gonna get a dusty one to it no I don't know anyone okay I don't anyone so I'm

in the nail salon TV is on christmas is coming people are promoting Christmas

[ __ ] I said that like there there might be a chance that you do no no I don't

really do that you know I don't know that anyone but if I did know how to do it effectively uh yeah today's I wouldn't be the [ __ ] in the middle of

the club with a circle around and screaming my name duddy winding by myself I'm Safari I'm so glad you're not

that guy if I know how to dance you [ __ ] will see dance moves buck is six

foot six knows how to dance better than most people so when you go to the club now he just start to dance he just

starts to dance off like buff sit down my [ __ ] don't even jam in this song you just up dancing alright well hold on

that's a topic too cuz my man Chris is the dancer but wait Tom any time we go into a spot that's his go-to move let me

double check real quick and for some of us that are rhythmically challenged we have to find other ways to get noticed

in a loud club let me just point out before you say anything more I want to

say to you Rory I am never envious of the women that the

dancer guy the negative [ __ ] who's dancing is his go-to I'm not envious of

the women that that he is attracting that's bad sex it is bad sex the girls

that like the [ __ ] that is the best dancer at the party is bad [ __ ] it's

the same thing as a [ __ ] going in a club maybe the first time user strip club you've seen a girl to do all the

moves they look like it'll be great in bed and then you [ __ ] it it was horrible same thing would make this same a fair

have you researched this no Rory I have not slept with a man if that's what you're asking me and that's no shame to

anybody a hand no that's fine of course but yeah okay yeah I think that's my theory there I'm mad at it like shouts

all other [ __ ] that are funny much bigger better net than dancing a good

joke is gonna get you greater results than your great Milly Rock I don't think

I'm in the club I don't think women like men that dancing too close my cuz the

women that come to you I'm not saying it don't okay the dancing guy at the club

there's not a lot of women that like the guys that dance in the clothes not saying that the guys that dance in the club can't attract women but like I

don't think women that see men dance in the club and be like you got like too much as the dancing do to get things

going your way okay what if you're the funny dancer yeah like when you're doing

the sarcastic like old moves but you nice at it can be both and people are laughing you can't be both you're now

gonna finish killing the Milly rock and then lean on the wall with your leg up and a drink in your hand and make a dope

joke and she's gonna laugh and leave with you no no I was on it like dancing funny like you'll hit the new edition [ __ ] just out

of a joke and off with it you can't be like you can't be in the club doing like

dances they got names to it you gotta tell Shiggy that you got to be hittin a cool two-step like you gotta

just show a woman you got rhythm but like if you start doing dancers that she can name like oh that [ __ ] doing the

like what's once they do that it's like fam I you just answer the nasty yo two

rappers out of that zone the rappers are so corny you write more I have started to judge like I'm starting to see shaggy

with too many rappers like his dancing got to be with Drake or just like Drake

and I don't even see with Wayne shaky with Kendrick

now shaky doing this shitty with Safari and she's BBQ like no like reserved your

shitty so you're hating on the shitty roll out era no no no I say no I don't want him to Fetty WAP his shaky you know

don't like I like shaggy now don't over shaggy the [ __ ] you don't over [ __ ] it was already rumors that [ __ ] want to

play you a quarter million for the shitty you didn't get it so chicky was on instagram jiggy in change the

definition of the shitty okay you gotta pay for these dance moves they brought Shiggy on tour poor shaggy

look exhausted to me just watch chill

she just want to enjoy his fame and chill with a drink these natives keep

trying to make drunk shaggy dance no no well we went to the Drake Show and

he brought him out to dance to the song I was like oh no Ziggy's used to 15-second vines and [ __ ]

with this dance do you all know what it's like dance long dancing on a stage for a

[ __ ] whose production budget for the tour is three billion for football field

drinking everyone I won't run across that shit's on my hotline bling a little half of suicide what's he had

he had all the dancers to as like that was his break tongue so he let that song rock for four [ __ ] minutes cuz that

was his like I let me catch my breath let the dancers do they thing Drake was tired talking about Shiggy bust a move

he lets shakey dance for 30 minutes exhausted she do you even have no more energy I felt bad man

I felt bad and then in poor guy didn't look like he wanted to be there for the wave it she you know that's what I'm

saying it's like you know we got a reserves from Ziggy Ziggy crying for help and we just don't see it he might

be we should get shaky on the phone I was talking about though she interrupted three times your body's ready for

Rihanna Rihanna commercial comes on

Rihanna's putting out all this new Fenty [ __ ] and then I said wow man he's

[ __ ] stupid chicks don't even know we're never gonna get a Rihanna album cuz they're wearing it if you guys just

stop buying her [ __ ] maybe she'd have to make something I said to myself now I'm gonna be the guy staring at women faces

wondering how that music would sound I'll tell you I stick my brain is entire

thought process but you're right though yellow where Rihanna's album go where

now they're wearing they're wearing our album right now no music no time soon

keep some would you get around to it yeah music is that now when you get around to

it you would wrap it but I would rather her take her time than to just put out albums just to put it out and didn't

come in and we like I had to seem really good I don't think she's ever done that damn like all her albums a pretty bit this is crazy though she has never seen

she has never been this big outside of her music business that's true this is like a whole new Empire she's like

that's creating and building and that's booming right now I want to album my gosh so any time we're looking at a girl

in fancy slides and white toes that's track six right there for sure and what is young and made doing with this strap on the other made

is deadly in these two you think younger may got more moving you that makes a lot more

sense as to why Rory assured young a man to do say Palooza really quickly and out

really quickly and she got the hose maybe Sam yeah that's a fact Channel

Tammy that happened to me when I was sixteen like a chick leaving me - [ __ ]

- chick she was definitely a sixteen you

cared way too much about breakups compared to now yeah sixteen you would definitely mix tape together swinging

like tray and boys in the hood been digging with this girl come picture Joe

losing the chick I where's this [ __ ] at trying to go beat up the new dude that's a girl yeah what's the

suck man how'd you Paul couldn't even do nothing and do anything I said everything was

attention no I wasn't that dude at sixteen I could

bounce right back with a hot with a girl like nobody I don't know but like let's

not just say that like it's cavalier sixteen is like come on new kid yeah

kids a big set our sixteen my kid is

gonna have arts I'm crying for him yeah no idea what heartbreak is there's no

idea when I answer it is he's just in that phase of I'm pussy-whipped and I love it I feel girl on her new bank

popular on Twitter and they get a retweet it's all over your time how did y'all come off them off of being

pussy-whipped give me how to become oh how do we get out of it like how do we wake up how did you learn that that was

bad once I started getting more of it and I realized it wasn't as it was

scarce as what I once thought it was the price point wasn't as high it's cool

like you mean like once you'll notice that it's around you and I don't even have to hang out with this one yeah all

right god damn it time for your favorite new segment music you seem to have

bumped into a brand new hip-hop mystery which might be my favorite segment hey

Bob mysteries yeah one day malls gonna tell us what happened those 92 bricks that address

that he keeps telling us to send him to after the park has masses not his house

the clubhouse oh the club out [ __ ] 39

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hip-hop mysteries engineer beef close to

home was this a case of mandeecees having his cake in because what he

wasn't man I was working at 40 10 and 40 got beef

because they're both women carried eternal that make 30 the pregnancy would have some more 10 when we first started

one shot your friend talkback button

better cuz Parkes was like Charles

understudy that's where happy for me I don't

that's the first thing a [ __ ] say when they got deep with somebody he might have a beef with me I wouldn't know you

gotta ask that man let me pull out man

what parts are saying is the student passed the teacher is what you're saying

Rory we bumped into this conversation because we started talking about engineers because we love music oh we

did love you under appreciated the engineer is the only people that love only people that love music talk about

the engineer yeah nobody else discusses the engineer very underrated role in hip

hop none of you [ __ ] are anything without the engineer jayjay made the engineer famous I guess q-tip wasn't

yelling out Bob powered power got shoutouts okay and so did Eddie Sancho

you got a lot of shout outs from the Gangstar affiliates I made it famous yeah you made it hot line any Sancho's

that song Jay made it cool for rappers to mention the engineers name in the record I will let me get over a little

bit of credit even though I was trying not to do that this podcast because we've given him a lot of credit over the last 20 pockets there's a lot of credit

20 years old did make me want to at least have a conversation with the

engineer and record it yeah cuz he shouted like all of the stuff we were supposed to say privately to the

engineer hole made me wanna know what's

going on mic sounded crazy yo is going

to sound crazy oh wow on a crazy night

engineer and he going ham guru to

unleash this crazy unleash and then try

to tear apart knives right afterwards on the flutes the flutes unleashed a flutist now if you say some gangsta [ __ ]

over some flutes that's hard that damn right they smoke that's that's the best record on blueprint to that

record huh this song let me know I was a stand because the whole world said nas one I

was like well you present one mic well

so then unleash the flutes unleash their

boots on a group that's Jonah taste

Ricky wait wait wait wait shut the [ __ ] up [ __ ] unleash the flutes we gotta ask

guru if he was a yo ho just wanna let you ate unleash the flutes is flagrant

right yeah you followed it up with H H

let me just tell y'all consumers I've always thought that it is trash when a

rapper spells things biggie is the only one that did it effective whoa if you don't give low [ __ ] his credit for

spelling independent get the [ __ ] out the room and fab had a spelling fabulous

wrong for god knows how many years we still only know how to spell it correctly when I spell his name

wait indicators that he did yeah that's

a person put to you yeah no H ovn didn't even matter what

happened after that no don't say H and a personated Austin Powers on that beat

and we was like yeah even know what do you I have to say to the people that say

that this song is admitting the loss cuz we don't think you lost no I don't think is admitting the loss yes it is I don't

think it's admitting in lost No Oh y'all boys think he lost like lost today for

today I'm sure he doesn't think that in this moment though when he wrote this

song yeah was this was a victory lay was

super hot at this time why do you think loss okay that's double at all after everybody was saying you lost and then

he went on a radio and a pot he apologized to his mom ringer of radio said yo my bad I shouldn't did that like that's why he was feeling public

pressure no no he's feeling pressure from his mother ya know his mom said you Larry what what was saying he lost that boy if

he thought he won and why would he do this because nas on godson had a record I'm asking was this before after godson cuz

nos queda going to Rory only you know when godson came out it was on the law I know but they were still going back and

forth Rory so happy that Kanye came clean so

he could listen to my Dark Twisted Fantasy again I was listening to the porn on my story

oh you mean to live lyric stick-to-your-ribs she played in her

crib Larry stick-to-your-ribs I love I

love that loop by the way I don't think she asked

[Laughter]

it's a white lady yodeling on the Ricola commercial - Ricola commercial right

there just looped it that wasn't a flu I know the flu the flu sound like Mall

mall go get this band from Rockefeller

to see me when I wanted to ask Dame for the rock chain when him and Howe was beefing yo-yo nobody will talk about it

because we all love Dame but man that

was a really interesting time until pop oh yeah like everybody stuck on Wayne

and and Birdmen doing whatever they doing mmm joven dame my [ __ ] in Def Jam had

[ __ ] having to choose up nobody was crazy wasn't at the end of

their range that was higher building light like even the janitors start looking at [ __ ] funny if they knew um

what and it's [ __ ] up - it's [ __ ] up it's [ __ ] up you should choose name yeah I'm busy looking at a absolutely I

understand why people would for sure they didn't know what Dame was easier to hate yeah Jamie's like no no it's easier

to hate the loud the loud guy whose people would think is obnoxious and yeah that was his job I really hate lawyers

in the music business I do nothing about I [ __ ] hate it too

many things change contextually in the music business for you to have loyalty

to any one entity in the music business I'm not until my [ __ ] you knew from

outside of it and then y'all having to get in it together I'm not talking about [ __ ] that was your friends anybody you

had a previous prior relationship with nothing like that all this new [ __ ] [ __ ] frauds you [ __ ] frauds Disney

frauds and [ __ ] phonies every last one of you all of you actually which is a perfect segue to my Khalid

conversation no Khalid is not a fraud and a phony cow named Lee talented yeah

works harder than most musicians let me be very clear I'm not about to [ __ ] on Khalid though I

am with with all due respect here comes some disrespect no I think I'm about to

[ __ ] on the fans mm-hmm boy you [ __ ] is stupid all of you do tell you [ __ ]

are [ __ ] naive man y'all let [ __ ] Khalid come and be likable and make all

the money and leave with all the likeable stuff with all the

keys we ain't got a major key from Khalid and five years

let's go snapchat done he killed it no Rihanna killed it he killed it you think

so [ __ ] right nobody talks about that I got the snapchat app on my phone I

have not opened it in at least three years first of all Khaled and girlfriends

killed it once girlfriends knew you only did a [ __ ] with your other [ __ ]

then snapchat was hot like whatsapp girls ruined was apt to whatsapp used to

be to communicate with people from a foreign place snapchat was always for

promiscuous behavior I think yeah but it

was a creep out for you to send pictures and they would disappear they would disappear yeah so it was like that's

what it started as and then cantide snuck up on you [ __ ] and then we

enjoyed Khaled in a way we didn't know that we did and then the brand's

realized we did so then Khaled took a bag from every [ __ ] brand and then his brand got

bigger and we never got none of the stuff that made us make his brand bigger

he don't sure I ain't seen his wife no more you don't cook a meal we haven't

seen how Assad is king yeah he's skydiving Assad now is just pean [ __ ] just executive producer you

can see him he graduated I want to see us on busy they might have some business

differences at this point we don't know what happened Ali got over on your news Khaled major

keyed you [ __ ] right in the breaking some [ __ ] aspiring artist dreams on the for going to Ford so I'm not hanging

it my G wait a minute what we talk on the four yes [ __ ] up puffs

that Halloween party I saw that I was invited here know is until 800 B P much

of K heart no no that was the a-list party yeah I'm invited on between oh

yeah interesting no I'm laughing at Jo

trying to make the segue sound like it was still part of the original conversation like oh yeah that no you

could say hump always offer that no we punched yeah we punched a my new my new

topic is man groupies oh boy and they use them all the interest in what you

interesting you're intriguing to me because I feel like all of your cool

points in your head this is only a my head mmm-hmm I feel like all of your coolness in your head all comes down to

you never being a man groupie for a man that's how I feel I've been them there are some people

that I feel like all should have been a man groupie for and I didn't see it Jordan Jordan oh you are loser I would

define the behavior when you're a man like what makes you a man groupie behavior was you know what a man group

is when you want a dude [ __ ] a dude [Music]

that was a straight man don't want to sleep with a woman groupie is normally

reserved for you want to do intimate things with a man you don't really know about sure in dudes case we're straight

so I got I want to [ __ ] the rock but I'm good

but he's kind of cool I saw Peter rock he's kind of cool man that's my guy it

was just so like the the top page [ __ ] no no I wasn't on his page I just saw I

just saw it then paid on mine ten minutes later somebody deems that same picture to me some light

damn for something that's some habit it's a wild damn like you know people send us [ __ ] by yasha talk about this right so I looked at it they say [ __ ]

screech Saturday night put the mark around the name yeah he circled it it was Joe's name like it depict rock no

shirt on [ __ ] say yo so what you made Joe why do you like about this big funny

in my head I thought you guys would judge some of them I saw antics that I don't like when when mice is in the gym

getting it in wall and his Bronx friends

would judge me if they saw it I'm just like a rock spits but so one of you was

funny one of you I'll stick my brain is so bill sim Charlemagne did Bill Simmons podcast okay and I love Bill Simmons

he'll send mrs. grant and there was a brief section in that podcast where they mentioned our podcast and me right know

what that led my brain to I'm terrified as well damn and Bill Simmons was one of my

first dude crushes that I broke me like I don't even think he's that dude doing

now but I'm just an exclusive it was like my firt whenever I've realized that men have like man crushes and then I

realized I was just attracted to disruptiveness if not men people that are disrupted

your brain is until I'm just telling you how my brain where I don't care if y'all judge me I'm not pausing anything I'm

just telling y'all my brain works disruptiveness okay is attractive to me

other people who disrupt well okay and that was Bill Simmons Bill Simmons

created a lot of job opportunities that's the thing about creatives that really doesn't get spoken about a lot that's true great creatives create a

whole bunch of job absolutely not only did Bill Simmons create a lot but he was

loyal to the people that he [ __ ] with and that always made me [ __ ] with him

right but he's not the rock okay yeah

everyone shut up I'm leading by example I walked out on the ledge and spoke

about my man crushes mmm mall mm-hmm who was yours Jordan Moore

was gonna get home somehow how do we do it

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when you got the ham on you can't kill [ __ ] you really love all right so

listen so we started telling my man crushes because I think Rory is corny

and acts like a man groupie a lot what you have no examples of so not true and changing the narrative I had come since

I have examples I just don't have examples that I can fault you on or they

are true oh no wait a puff party you had a lot of respect for puff I couldn't

jump that's what I'm saying you're gonna do like puff hole

your list is like legit a little bit I'm waiting for it to get weak I'm

respectable like I just don't open my legs for anybody not a whole like why women don't think

men have standard they will [ __ ] them whenever they feel like because they've been [ __ ] by right 7 million years

they don't know me at all all right but no in my mail grew penis I've always held it down like I was in

wild around puff actually waiters gave them the debt good to meet you so reason listen to this we come here to

do this podcast right Rory says to us hey reason is gonna stop by before his

flight I said dope so now what I thought

though mo are us all did you think

anything so reason when Rory said that I

thought to myself why would Rory do this

in here before its flight and now we gotta act like we really like reason I

do like but we talked about his leap my reason and so when Himalayas okay I mean

I talked about yeah we had because I

don't think that he is that brave enough to just think that he would come and just be able to just me and him and I

had a long conversation yesterday about that exactly Oh Rory is having long talks with new acts

[ __ ] is Rory talking to reason about a man with a bunch got plant

I reached out both Rory mo because like at the end of the day I all of this is

new for me so I just wanted to show love to people that genuinely without know me show love like I said I didn't come here

I came here literally to just DAP y'all up until y'all genuinely thank you because that that [ __ ] really progress

my career in the eyes of certain industry people a lot of Industry people listen to y'all that's why look at the

guys they pick up grateful for things

[ __ ] off because I knew he was coming here just to say what up cousin folks with us groupie

[Laughter] reason one of the conversations that

we've been having here and let me tell it the viewership and actually the LME slow down with reason for a minute

artists this is joe budden talking not Rory not mall not parks not Erickson and

not [ __ ] save on artists let me make myself perfectly clear I don't want to

talk to any of you none of you not a [ __ ] one this is not that type of

show all you [ __ ] that's reaching out to people that are mutually close no no

no and no and no and no I understand it

because I've been beat up by the music industry so I get that Spotify to your

viewership audience here come you [ __ ] artists that I hate I hate all of you I hate every [ __ ] one of you

this is not the press run spot this will never be the Breakfast Club nah this is

not a snapper at radar no offense to any of these entities they like talking to y'all they feel

like they need y'all I feel like suck my

dick that's what I feel like all right now with that being said when we talk to

somebody just gonna sound weird it's

gonna sound weird in the music business get ready when we talk to somebody it is

strictly because for [ __ ] ideology

here so reason when Rory told us that you were coming here before your stop at airport I thought great I want to meet

reason but I definitely don't want reason to have a microphone and then you walked in here and then you were mad [ __ ] articulate would [ __ ] and that's

a microphone but [ __ ] it we here now so

we've been having a talk on this show that says whatever was harder to get on

in is it now was it the 90s the golden era 2000s whenever I think it's really

tough now I think you new [ __ ] are just faced with some things that us old

[ __ ] didn't have to face a hundred percent you think it's a lot more crowded and convoluted Mall says it's

easier today because the accessibility I guess it's easier and because it's and

because you have much more tools today to create I didn't know that you just started making music four years ago

yeah yeah you're way nicer than you should be that's true I think it's also cuz I study like all I did was study

like [ __ ] that I like like [ __ ] I could actually rap I used to print out lyrics and I was playing basketball what

I didn't even know I was gonna rap I used to proud lyrics and just read them so I think I come from a different background than a lot of dudes that just

started rapping in today's era see I feel like TDE won't even [ __ ] with you if you don't like research yeah the

history that's smart yeah make sense that is smart it makes sense people that

but I toured in various ways you know right but I do feel like you know he is

a testament to what I was saying about it being easy to get on in this era why

because you know what how much he would have had to accomplish to be sitting on a show as popular as we are to only have

been rapping for four years and then to just put out an album but isn't this way and that's why it's tough today I'm Lola

breathing and that's why it's tough today because today's consumer it's

probably a bit severe than yesterday's consumer right so so when logic I mean

that logic [ __ ] logic so when reason decides he wants to true I'm a genius

what I'm not would you like logic on the show No so when when reason decides he wants to rap

and this was what happened many years ago boy it's a lot that the fans are

gonna decipher now he could be on the show he could be on 20 of these shows the fans are not buying his [ __ ] until

they decide alright I'm [ __ ] with him but that usually happens from going on shows

people getting a feel for your personality and how cuz that's look look how he walked in got a faux furs

personality articulate great you know what sit down for a second was key now [ __ ] him we had a great conversation and

he would have been a great piece of that conversation see lot not logic reasons here when a promo like you came to New

York to do promo yeah cuz you're a new artist you should be wanting to do promo right but I'm not here right now you're

not here it came here to say hi but you're here to do promo I think I

mentioned that on the last podcast like out-of-town [ __ ] come to New York for a few days they do the promo and they

get the [ __ ] out of here I don't remember why we brought that up that that's the only thing keeping New York

almost relevant with the music industry because all the artists move to the west where you still New York though you say

that I'm working on an entire [ __ ] PowerPoint presentation to prove that

New York is just as relevant today as

anywhere else I am ready I'm not ready to present it rocketing all that I've

been saying New York has had the song into someone for the past five six years yeah I know I'm trying to add to that argument but real quick before we get

off of Europe I think what you're saying is different than what we're saying I think what you're saying is that it's easier once you get on to blow up after

you get on because you have the access to all these different platforms and whatnot but how do you even get in the

position to where people even know who you are so it's like back in the day if

you wishes dope and you on the corner rapping or you know one person that know puff and you walk you and you wrap for

puff Bumi pushing along but nowadays it's like nobody wants to do the groundwork so you have to convince

labels outside of the t des and the dream builds or whoever it may be to take a chance on you to do the

groundwork because there's not no label that will do the groundwork for you yeah whereas back in the day every label was

doing the groundwork for you because that was the blueprint so building yes you right nowadays it's easier that when you do get on you can go from here from

A to Z way quicker because the technology and platforms but to get to a

it's way harder now because there's so many [ __ ] trying to get to a it so many it's hard to get it's hard to even

get it's hard to even get one pretty soap is so congested that it's hard to even get one person to listen to a new

artist if a friend does not tell them to listen to a new artist they will not listen to multiple phones so as a new

artist like what's your focus like back

in the day they told us to focus on the hit single because you know that's where everything live but today as a new act

with followers and audience and all of this [ __ ] being so important like you're

attempting to thrive at a time that's very different from when I was in it what where do you focus most of your

energy is it and the music is it in how

it's received is it in following and social me like we're where you where's

your attention well for me it's a little different cuz I like you said I did so I'm using four years ago and I hope my whole life so basketball even though I

[ __ ] suck now yeah it's still my first love and I had to suck then could you try to think of somehow

a new starter rapid is that so for me it's like I'm not I'm here to be the

best and I know that this is gonna sound [ __ ] corny but I'm here to put out the best music for my fans because I

don't have those I didn't grow up with those aspirations of like I want to be the greatest rapper that has ever walked

the earth if that makes sense so I just have the the focus on the people that [ __ ] with the [ __ ] that I put out I want

them to never be able to say that there was I actually tweeted that a couple weeks ago I said I never want my fans to

say that I let them down the way that some of my goats I feel like let me down at a point because they tried to go this way or go

that way or do this or do that I would be really bad at my job if I didn't say what goats my job if I were to get over

here as a new artist and say you've [ __ ] right watch your [ __ ] mouth

meteorite I don't think that punch his name is by happenstance so listen so as

a new act on T V E when do you think

album will come out like oh you want it cause you want to know they just put out there no that wasn't it that came out

was a project that I made in 2016 off a YouTube beats it was not that's why has no TV features it was what it was what

top it was top found me off of so top discovered me off of this project okay and then in the middle of making my next

project he was like yo I made an amazing business exactly because it stopped you from years tops oh but I do think that

it will be a little bit different for me as far as when it's when the money's on the line reason you know what the [ __ ]

I'm talkin about your last project when the label is looking for its dividend

first I think it'll be the top of the year I think you're 2019 yes well you're coming right back yeah because this

project was already put up yo I miss when the top of the year was reserved for the new axis right

lastly like yeah cuz fourth-quarter Christmas was angels' I wanna stay the

[ __ ] away from the summer like the summer is when everybody are the the names that like I just dropped wit

[ __ ] Wayne I never want to do that again like wait as much Wayne is my

favorite rapper of all time but I never want to do that again and it was fun to see my name next to all my articles - [ __ ]

but I never want to do that again you feel me so so I either want to drop at the top why don't you want to do that

again only because like like and this is no shame cuz like I said I showed up to thank you but look at how long it took

for my project to get in the circle conversation people have to work their way through Wayne you've lived it for you Kevin gates 100% I'm just saying in

that in that weekend of dropping music people have to go to Wayne they had to go through logic they had to go through

Kevin gates and he a was supposed to drop something thank God he didn't drop anything probably well I probably

wouldn't even reached out until January so it's like I don't want to drop until

I get to that point with also your situation because of the TDE thing well yeah thank God thank God for that you

can understand because if it wasn't CDE like if I was sign anybody else that's not a group or something that people [ __ ] with then I like it fun great video

sign is it's one of like the labels that few labels have that cosine now never been cuz they're very picky with the

artist they do so if t de signs somebody I'm gonna listen yes fact like I went and grabbed Sur [ __ ] right away it was like oh they

tease [ __ ] with TD I've never been it can't be wack you mention shameless plug Sarah's incredible

I love sir-sir sauce I love super dope you mentioned something that I that I personally have paid a lot of attention

to I don't know if the masses have the difference in dropping then and dropping

now as it pertains to knowing who else is dropping I agree with like back in

the day we had more room to play with because if Wayne was dropping we knew

the date he was dropping and when if Beyonce was dropping CDs we could

had to be making these new [ __ ] now don't know [ __ ] right so it's like how

do we know one way to drop literally we picked a date and then three days away later wait out of my birthday like I was

just like thank you card also but that

strategy came from when people bought CDs was like all right let's all drop together because people are going to

drive to the CD store they'll pick them all up it's now still happening and it's like that's why I asked him why he was

mad on that man but why he preferred not to drop a Wayne again cuz back in the day that was considered marketing oh

yeah if Wayne was gonna drop on the 25th then product placement would tell the newer artists that they should drop

their [ __ ] right on a window isn't a reason says that that might have changed a bit well well I will also say that's

where my inexperience comes from because that could still be the case but because I haven't been doing this long yeah I could be completely wrong you can say

you can know more than I do about it I've just telling you how I felt that day I was like this is he felt like artists we feel exactly sometimes you

catch some of that promo though cuz like you know sometimes on like a Tuesday they go mad music is dropping Friday and

that will start the conversation and you might catch that wave with the bigger artists that's dropping like here's her

a list of everything that's dropping and you're looking at it because you're Wayne fan also while you're on this topic not to interrupt you sometimes I

obsess over what the industry would look like if albums still drop on Tuesdays ok

the Friday I used to love the Tuesday Tuesday drop was um it's man I feel like

Friday is just weird the weekends should you trying to do yeah what if your music is not weekend

music my dumbass sister every Thursday

night like looking for the non weekend music I'm looking for a contemporary

adult music on a Friday like a [ __ ] loser yeah we'll say me on Friday night hearing the reason say mama I just

killed a man my hand is shaking now

I'll save that one for Monday reason so are you beating top and punching all

these [ __ ] down wit up when your album should drop are you letting them note are you I was harder than them I know

anything y'all I haven't talked to punch much about you know like music and we should have dropped but I did I've had

those conversations with top as far as like us having him pretty much telling me like lil [ __ ] chill Tommy wouldn't

none of you exactly I've mistakenly not intentionally crossed the line a couple

times and that's that's been my I can admit that that's been my flaw since I got in the label is like when when you

do get on in four years it's like one thing that comes with that is not being able to be patient you get I'm saying in

so sitting for a year which you know a lot of people laughing like you've only been doing this for four years for me

I'm like I've been sitting 25 percent of my career that's how it the worst thing that could happen to you is for you to

get signed and have to deliver in year one but as a TDE artists if you know

your words you kind of have to deliver as a TD artist no you don't but not in a year but not in a year in you one that's

why we're praising tve the way we do they don't ask you to do the [ __ ]

that other labels do so when they find your raw talent having it he'll work on

it and when they get a good album that when a good album you think is good little [ __ ] I got your point there but

that was when TV I think it's just different for a reason now because there's so much pressure with their roster AB Kendrick school and even

scissor to a point was growing with them they were not want they've never had been on top in sign to artist you know

what's funny about working on the first I don't think that there's a lot of pressure with GD yards not us that's

that's out be completely honest tell me more it's a ton of pressure just because how top works is that you got to

understand that this like matter you've you playing a video game that's different duty no no bummer TD to top is

what he created so whatever gets him most excited is what he getting behind so in order your name the

way it is at every subsidiary okay like that's how it is with every subsidiary

that ain't what I'm saying what was the thing well with the topic they found me

on my two childhood friend his name was Tyrone and his uncle was a do name came they did management for schoolboy q okay

and so um he kept beating down came to door trying to play new music playing music King wasn't [ __ ] with me at

first and then I'm fast for three years I started making noise in the city throwing some events through some shows

that sold out on my level for a good amount of people and whatnot and um then I had a headlining show my first

headlining show King bought 20 tickets to it and brought the label out and then I met Musa top so his son and then me

came mostly started working together and then maybe a month the idea was to put together a project to make him make

noise and then take me to talk when Musa kept listening there you have it he was like I'm gonna just send it to top and

he didn't ask me he just sent it to him and top I was like I want to meet this kid and then we played music for like an hour and a hat top didn't bob his head

[ __ ] once an hour and a half I thought I was I thought it was horrible like I was like this is not going well

at all and he bobbed his head to one record so I was like okay clearly he only likes this one record out of 30 and

he took my information down and then maybe three days later he had me meet up in the studio with j-rock and then it

went it went fast after that so I guess I asked have to say that basically the bottom line of that is you had to get it

poppin yourself 100% yeah I put a lot of money while I went to school so I study business and I what artists didn't ever

get a poem well I think it a lot of up-and-coming artists think that they can just send it down watch somebody and think it's gonna work 100% and in some

instances it does it's in this era sometimes when people just upload something to SoundCloud very different

from handing someone your demo ya know I had to build it by putting my like I was

working a job and me and my brother we actually sat down I did what job don't overlook there that I was working at a place called TEKsystems I was an IT

recruiter so pretty much I was are you smart no IT but Joe I was crowd was the

middle you had to recruit the smart people I would get people IT a job with Mercedes

hey why didn't get no IT boards on the project because I don't know I don't know I see me my brother and my cousin

would put bread in like we literally spent like 60 70 gram I just pushing my

own [ __ ] 24:20 room and just because my

brother he need is a bread back I've

heard the story before yes so he made sure that uh but not they we just used

to put money up because we didn't want to sign with a situation we didn't want nothing that wasn't gonna be something that was something like this so you

wanted to go in with leverage exactly so people will reach out but we were just like nah we're not doing it and so this is something that makes companies whose

tone I don't think the TV is forced into the numbers game would absol I don't think the TV is forced into the numbers

game with schoolwork you I don't think TV is forced into the numbers game with j-roc and I don't think they were forced into the numbers

game with SIDS I just think they're geniuses and that worked out like that I think they put out control as like

alright this is definitely going number one and they in turn and say yeah you're

the star like party lucky so scissors

beer and and now you're stuck in the numbers game what's is oh yeah can't leave that one now yeah I think that

like that's why I applaud them so much and I want to try to stop doing it cuz I feel like I give them too much credit

but they're the only people that have seen to make a way out of

commercializing music that should not be commercialized the Martian not on paper

and all the number one rapper oh sure even Downton when they put out section

80 they was trying to make Kendrick of the superstar but that's that's where the success comes in there they're not trying to hit these numbers why do you

think that Kendrick shouldn't be and and I agree I'm just playing dead with them why why why do we think that he should

not be the number one artist like paper wise so why do people think that he should not be well you okay Kendrick is five foot three doesn't

talk to anyone keeps to himself disappears really well doesn't make

music that white people would traditionally flock true every Kendrick

people love white people of convening people of like the single wu-tang okay

white be Kendrick doesn't go pop goes Kendrick like he doesn't look at the landscape and like oh this is gonna be

alright I don't think he was like oh this is the single this is the one we have to lead with and this is what I

noticed let me let me make this quick quick a quick point actually parks and I

were talking about this a little while ago Kendrick is the exception here but most of the great rappers can't make a

course to save their lives and I can hear that or just a song structure in general and I can hear it that's the

thing we can hear it so when we have these conversations where we highlight the top lyricist being at the top of the

game it's a very rare combination of

lyricism hook creating song making ability Kendrick falls there into 1% I

can't think of another rapper that raps as well as him that creates on those

other levels at that same level coño no

way I think you making a case you can make a case you can of course you can make a case I think I would win the case

based on just Kendricks trajectory and where he's at well I mean what I think Co is that more

radio records a single egg shows because da is incredible he's also from my label

dot didn't have a number one until humble oh my ears don't hear number ones

my ears don't ya not to me I'm just saying I'm just saying that conversation

yeah yeah I'm saying what I'm saying I'm saying that to say that artists don't create barmy reason artists don't create

number ones you're a so-so why I'm like I was there

when Kendrick was performing swimming pools to [ __ ] that didn't give a [ __ ] about swimming pools or any record that

was created in the vein of swimming pools right and then that was there when it went yeah so it's like I understand

it great but I'm not gonna front like that's the formula for most [ __ ] it's not right like I've seen a bunch of

other [ __ ] try to create their swimming pools and stay right there right well that's why Kendrick is Kendrick yeah back to my point very rare

combination of lyricism song making ability hook creating and backing I

think the best rapper ever as far as harnessing tones I've said that before

maybe none of this podcast so he's the best at changing his tone I don't know

they have to be coruña I don't know that to be true either I don't know that he's better and Slick Rick at that I don't know these better

than Nicki Minaj at that yeah I got to say y'all call me nuts Nicki isn't that conversation syndrich

is taking it somewhere and he's like an elitist with that right all they want is

in that conversation that maybe we will add open a conversation off Andre to thousands in that conversation on invoice in fluctuation how you don't

put Buster there and I'm not saying he changes his voice but I don't understand how you don't put andriy mm yeah their inflection changes in their flow of

making up and Slick Rick and no I you gotta put Eminem - that's why was

behind him yes and him fart engine tones like and in home changes girl job I am

the ponies market but he's in there 100%

isn't it yeah he's in that conversation so then what's next is a new act like what do you have to do I want to ask

cause you said that your whole album was u2 beats fact so never get sued [ __ ]

the Kanye drives slow beat I was like what's the pay line you better call Metro boomin or somebody oh what's the

process now when you actually have producers in-house to call Metro when you're not just fishing on the

Internet exactly I've been actually working with so this is a new step for me because I've been actually working with producers from the beginning as far

as like making the beef from scratch so you saw shout out to people like cow banks he just signed a TD as well he's a

dope producer and I just know working with him and a lot of other producers and I feel like I feel like that's gonna

be the dope thing about my next project people usually people here the growth if you drop a project now you drop a practically a year later so you're a

growth because it's dropped in 2016 people are gonna hear three years of growth within my next project which I

think would be dope because you don't usually get that especially like a year from each other in projects that that

makes sense it made sense that TD is play monopoly all I heard from

everything you just said is TD you play monopoly well you can't work with another producer no I can but that's the

only one that I know right

oh shout out DJ swish - that's enough switch to scientist TD - no he's not but

that's I I started music in a garage in Compton with swish that was the first producer I started working with okay I know that all the new acts think - this

like a dope story - but all of us did is that like a thing yo was just me in my

room you guys invented the bathroom mic

[ __ ] response you know you guys don't have the opportunity to make so much more money than we did Vince staples

spoke to that last time you call it this podcast like I agree with that it's like sports like em yet I hear some bars are

making 90 million and he's at the I don't think magic ever made that George Hill makes 18 million dollars a year

that's crazy that's [ __ ] insane but I mean it's not compared to what everybody

else making it's not that much how much how much does Stanley make George Hill should come not that Georgio's didn't

make it creator yes no George Hill should make

Tim it doesn't make he'll make 18 million I made $200 last week what is George Hill mean 18min

family now you sound like a hater I just

wonder what some of these [ __ ] do with their money like George Elaine's resting with the drip oh it's almost spinning then why

does George Hill need 18 million dollars I think a haircut is kind of trash

what is he spending on big hain nothing yeah whatever [ __ ] days yeah it's

hate no Rory isn't think it's really insane I thought this is it that's crazy that's real yes funny boys I don't think

I said anything they usually don't think

definition of insanity Oh realize what they say I'll [ __ ] with [ __ ] like reason because I say I say yo George

Hills over babe and reason like now for real because you kept going it's do

[ __ ] think that I'm off not to be honest with you I think you against the window I think you'd be suppose we take

off as far as in saying yes but I think you trying to make it better if I but I

think you'd be surprised how many new [ __ ] really [ __ ] with you and I'm not just saying that cuz I'm in front of you

like I said I really do think that you'd be surprised by how many new [ __ ] actually [ __ ] I would be surprised when

I opened up for you like I told you my first show I opened up los globos like I had like at least it only sold 40

tickets so I had like 23 homies that literally came like oh he's opened up for Joe Budden I'll come like and that's

not me just saying like I literally had like twenty three armies that literally was like Oh Joe button okay cool what did you think of the Joe Budden fan

crowd I thought that it was I'll tell you that I thought it was one of the most loyal rap crowds because I went to

another show at Joe's and I saw I went

to I went to another show of yours in LA I forgot exactly where it was the idea trains like this I saw some of the same

I saw somebody same people there's a chick named like July no don't [ __ ] my

face [Laughter] I love wood beer - she got like a mole

right you might know she is you know only no sin whose Goliath but she goes

she goes to all the Joe Budden shows like a die-hard Joe but so I said it's a

liar what do you think about [ __ ] fans I think you can't [ __ ] the wrong

fans I'll show you [ __ ] fans I what's your [ __ ] crazy

yeah yes yes yes it's okay wait I've had

sexy fan cuz [ __ ] fans it's like it's aggressive I wouldn't put I wouldn't pit

the number of women at the reason show to be high I would feel like it was only

five years ago that Maul was making bets with me as to the amount of women that

would show up to the Joe Budden show and he was on my rider but he was going with me to the show so

you should put something as a new act because I don't feel like women really [ __ ] with the new acts women wait no

sometimes they come on when do women break you music the Nikki mixtape rockin

they don't be trying to break [ __ ] they think it depends I music you make them honestly like I have a good amount

of female fans and I don't [ __ ] all of my female reason look like you got the soul sisters now you know you know I

think reason might be how convenient is that girls know I know music good reason

I think I used to be that's fun it used to be me Joe what's up you want to

lyrics now is that me always keep that one like real rap guy in they back pocket just

not I know I know restroom where reason has [ __ ] great waves bro thank you

every time I [ __ ] every time I put a [ __ ] opera nobody talks about the

fact that I have good hair bro and I'm like I'm in the comments late cuz you're in the era of photoshopping so we think

your waves a Photoshop yes night where's women face tools just [ __ ] TV you buy you a hair line what TV tell you you

had to fix something speaking of hair lines I have to shout

out Tory Lanez because Tory Lanez went on hot 97 it's a yeah boy oh my [ __ ] what's up and I want to shout out Rory for

shouting out tory lanez without us saying a word about it album ever we didn't say one word about Tory's

album and his fans asking us like you know what y'all think about that Tory yes we're just Skippy heavy in my

mentions I'm alright let me address the fans I'm skipping it because it's teeny bopper music like I like the first song

and that's it mmm that's not to say the album is bad just it's for good music stop for you it's just I could see a

concentrated effort as they younger term it's not for me which I created like a

random question who has heard my project

my project I have I have several times okay what what and I'm I'm honestly asking this cuz I want to know what did

you not like about the project I think that it got strong in the middle when you started getting more topical and like story based and some of the other

stuff was good but it was just kind of there gotcha that was what I was about to say I could

hear the new artist in the project yeah yeah so I think would like corrupt for example now that you told me it was

YouTube beats yesterday it made more sense than me I was like this should knock it don't knock gosh yeah the

production don't knock it should knock that corrupt beat should [ __ ] and that's

a new artist thing and not a new artist thing for me I didn't mix 90 projects of

mine cuz I couldn't afford to do it I mean whatever new acts got to go through the rigmarole or whatever you

got to do but that's what I took away but there was enough there for me to say I'll be back there now once again

suspect 506 or whatever was yeah now el pais I'm gonna I'm gonna stick stick

around to see how he evolved he's loved so when you did the cypher I thought that was interesting because that like

they're really the rappers who pride themselves on rapping I don't know if the ciphers are so impactful today I

don't know if so many of them are rushing to do it so when you did it and you were like you're one of maybe only

three [ __ ] that I even paid attention to on the site but they hit us up super last minute that's what they do yeah I

wasn't no one's prepared no one has their best foot forward okay guys it's a it's a favor

okay I just want somebody takes you to um probably like nine yeah it like I I'm

kind of like I struggle through it a little bit but I just tried to make sure I got at least eight at a time right right before I moved on to the next

eight okay um but yeah it was like it was super like I like like 10 hours to

like right and remember it exactly and all of that record like six fire button

flips like that's not a record they're like six fire button flips maybe

just find that had been his fire is that

no that was one over there that was one of my I ignore all button flips on

purpose because they're all corny I do but not them one I think I I thought was

fired because I wouldn't expect such a a new artist to be able to implement the

on top and make that work like that caught me by surprise

like that's how trash I am today when I watched the verse and and I started to

hate on it and then I said [Laughter]

that was way way over the wait wait wait I'm bald oh wait a sec he did it very different

than the new orders very different than the negative that wrapped for only four years we gotta stop saying that we gotta stop

assuming that [ __ ] that just started rapping like and cuz you gonna have on [ __ ] after me too

been rapping for ten years hate me yeah [ __ ] wait oppressed was out of something gonna beat only say he was

wrapped a year before the documentary yeah I believe that stick that's true I believe that from okay yeah actually I worked with him when he was a new act it

was true okay that [ __ ] was straight off of the streets like five stories

that come I'm not saying to be funny you know I'm not calling it he's not a plant like plants came after games the game

was the epitome of everything that was happening back then which was Street [ __ ] taking her capital and putting it

behind a Street [ __ ] so when game game came to the studio actually when I was

recording fire that's when I met game okay unit yet no they do Jersey Devil

she he was at points he was signed to whatever the major label was and the

major label wasn't really treating him like he felt and his team felt he should

be treated so I did fire he was in the studio like it was weird cuz he was a

gangbanger coming to like why is this [ __ ] in my session while I'm doing his club record in LA because I did fire in

LA okay oh and then I brought it back new on New York and then shortly after that it was G I came out and it was genuine it bunch

of hits 50 and I'm like ah got it see we get it there it worked kudos yeah

two years amid 21 was fire oh three fire was oh three cuz documentary was oh five

so yeah I guess it was when I became I was saying to him you're clowning me for

the amount of records that I've sold but you haven't sold any records at all not a one shortly after that so he sold a lot of

you've got to be very careful selling calm because then I just shut up

[Laughter]

to me no game game we had a few weeks

ago who's Tom out maybe overlook discography I was literally just about sick yeah I'm should have been in that

combo what about Ross yeah game the way you have a wack album sure game even

don't even have not like all of his albums are good there's not even like that in there game is my West Coast Ross

yeah that's fair that's a very games Hicks every better beat then most [ __ ]

sex he knows somewhere to put the features that good and now what's the next one yeah yeah game and Ross use features

better than the rest of us a hundred percent they do and what's what's not spoken about enough with game but if you

listen to all these albums best chameleons and rap oh yes best chameleon

in hip-hop game consist contain can be all of us that cannot stay with every

era we Sam [Music] sound like nah sound like her which was

a game can be everybody being like not

really an artist from inception a student yeah he was just a fan that's why I just like reasoned like when

reason sits here and says that he was a hip-hop a story Amal hates the LeBron to hip-hop story but when reason when

reason says that he studied the [ __ ] and that's how he found you know whatever I get it yeah like I can understand that

right I know where I was going that but that was it Rory reasons gonna miss his flight I

don't know you told me that you should so because you invited him here is there

anything else that we need for like well the reason fans kill us for not asking some [ __ ] even though there's nothing

that we want to ask we don't do in every users of like a conversation yeah I'm just really I'm not even 100% he has

waves because what would possess a new

[ __ ] to say you know what do rack Murray's brush memories [ __ ] don't put

Murray's in a so how does he get wave backs you see a pic of my mom bro she

put some hair here in a ponytail is wavy I'm so serious about the type of here yeah I'm so serious about now all right

my head I'm saying when reasonably he's cooling his mom alright so new project

early 2019 which really means late 2019 no early 2019 late 2019 early twenties a

you're not putting out a project or anything I want you to put out an EP or a prize oh no I'm so serious about that

okay means you know you know ep means that I don't think I'm ready for album yet cuz I want to build more so I put

out five or six joints - 2019 what do you want from music like what do you want - to compete to be completely

honest I want to gain enough leverage socially to change my neighborhood I want to do stuff in the

community also just by followers not as corner you know it doesn't work that way like you have to actually be with you

have to actually be somebody that is in your city that people know made it out to be able to influence like the young

you want to be our chance you like reason a rapper not like ever and no

offense a chance I'm a big fan that is offensive but I do want to do different

[ __ ] in Carson and South Central just to be able to bring the community together on I just want to change the whole crab

in a barrel mentality that's my biggest thing mmm let's do I want to be able to change that so hopefully my plan is to be able

to put people on like like my albums will always have artists and she would never [ __ ] hurt isn't it always just

make up sell some burgers

it goes back to it goes back to me saying it like my end-all be-all is not being the great in the greatest

conversation and tonight my grip mom my end RBI is making sure that my fans are happy always and making sure that every

single chance I get I get a chance to put somebody on time tau to t do you think any fans I'm joking around but I

perfectly understand what you're saying I understand your head space I think I

understand the the space that you're in right now I'm old so I probably don't but I'm looking forward to watching how

you how you proceed but I will say this though like I am new into the industry so if anybody wants to [ __ ] reach out

and help me because I don't know what the [ __ ] is going reason I'm so serious about I'm not even just saying it like

80% I don't understand a lot of things reason losing industry can I help you please I just want to think I'm so

serious about and I'm not even do it that's why we're here 100% like this [ __ ] is way different

like I expected it to be when you get in it it's a lot of [ __ ] that you don't understand it's a lot of [ __ ] that nobody teaches you because if they do

teach you it's made tonight and that's what I'm saying so I'm gonna be the

person that will admit that I need [ __ ] help yeah and if anybody is wanting to help me including you

including you including go to all of you please we should cut this out cuz this sounds like yo take advantage of me I'll

tell you like they told me in the 90s boy was this depressing when I learned

it I'm not saying this to depress you I'm just saying this for you to have and

do whatever you want with it I was running around giving my demo to everybody that I thought should have it

in the 90s right and at some point in 97 98 I was really discouraged with why I

wasn't being signed like you couldn't tell me I wasn't nice so it wasn't about

that it wasn't about that anymore why am I not being signed and it took somebody I trusted and respected to say to me

Mouse cuz that's what I was going by the time Mouse you are the nicest [ __ ] in

Jersey City and you're running around New York handing your demo to people you're handing your demo to rappers and

people in the music business that make their money in the music business do you think they're about to help you your

competition you are the threat you are the new young

rapper with amazing skills that does not know the game learn it on your own no

one's gonna help you boy when I heard that I was sad you know I gave my [ __ ] to Chris lighty I gave my [ __ ] the pun I

gave my [ __ ] the raucous I gave my [ __ ] delivers this lounge I gave my [ __ ] I gave my [ __ ] everywhere just now that

you're a rapper you understand though because you're busy trying to get the money yourself but that is that crab in a barrel

mentality I'm talking about which I can relate directly today and that is depressing as hell by the way but I can

relate directly to that but that's what I mean is like I don't understand why not cuz how I look at it this might just

be my [ __ ] insane view how I look at it is if I help somebody become that guy right that is now part

of my legacy for sure like that is now part of my pyramid of I don't know if you guys saw that picture where show

Rockefeller that is now part of my legacy so I don't understand why people hesitate well it's

like even if like if in let Mike get mad at me [ __ ] it even if Nicki Minaj would have threw an arm around cardi B that is

now part of her legacy so why are you fighting with the new up-and-coming female was a problem family makes every

day who I should put my arm around not just sex s stupid like that's very simply good yeah take a photo with

anybody but as far as like listen to their demo and putting them on a song like that no but I mean really helping

like for example like if like since Jos in here I'll use them if Jo never [ __ ] did a record with me ever cuz

he's retired and whatnot right that's doing a record with me isn't helping what's helping is seeing somebody about

to make a mistake no don't do that that's not it or or you know you're about to do that I've done that before

I'm tucking her L on that don't do that for sure you might want to do this or you don't sound like that to me that is helping like people that I want to help

in a music industry I don't necessarily want to work with them I got friends and I want to help but I never want to work

with them saying like Rockefeller was pretty established when they started

doing that so I think to Joe's point when he when the guy was saying you know they're rappers on the old [ __ ] they're

competition they're not solidified yet so there's still Friday and and let me tell you something I thought about

earlier reason like the elections are coming up right so while I'm home on TV

I see all of these different commercials for the elections and I pay probably

more attention than I should to commercials commercials are funny for me I fell in love with my girl over

commercial like if you can laugh at a commercial was great these these these political commercials don't write today

they are more rude and salacious than they've ever been and I'm home getting a

kick out of it I'm home I'm home watching SportsCenter and a break come on everybody Don Mathers okay

he wants to raise taxes Wow I hate you

[Laughter] but once I get past that I sit in my

head and I say hey these are the same commercials I've seen for 30 years mmm like all of the political commercials

when they come on they say the same thing taxes laws shut up that led me to the

all of the music movies all my life exactly the same yeah that discouraged

me it made me say how come all my life they really are the same exact problems like in politics in music like when does

real change occur I tell people all the time not much has changed in the world

at all we just now we just we have a lens to different places that we cameras

everywhere not getting information quickly now that's all it is we just get the information okay not much has

changed if you listen to records Marvin Gaye said he's saying the records that was going on in the 70s it's still

happening it's true like the greatness of Marvin Gaye to make a record so long

ago that still is applicable today now I just know how miserable of a world we live in it's not much has changed don't depress

logic a lot of the internet calls me

that at least five six seven times the logical reason and two computer so if

I'm an IT logic looks like he should work in IT rori let this [ __ ] tell me

what his rap name means and the eleven kids fight yeah my are you reasonable to

reach the reason with somebody is to meet in the middle ground and so I feel like that's what a lot of my music talks about like I'm not I wasn't involved in

gangs but I was affiliated enough I was in relationships but I still dealt with infidelity I worked a nine-to-five but I

hated it like I'm who was infidelity you or her no men no men really try to have you Orange

[Laughter] instead I was like I was like I miss my

flight top gonna make me pay for [ __ ]

honestly I did not come here to sell to promote anything I didn't like I said I did not come and we like any of y'all if

y'all come to LA like please do him yep I saw that you talked about that with Vince on the pull-up like you know like

I want to pull up blah blah blah like please if you're in LA at all we can connect will you protect him if

you're ever in LA I know y'all got a bunch of friends now like each other but if if you ever never hit me I think my

girl lets me talk to my la friends [Laughter]

reason thank you man we appreciate you stopping by we don't appreciate Rory

inviting you but I do appreciate you come to the crib so boys gotta come in

here speaking in yo reason address again

shout out the top shout out to punch shout out to everybody over TV eise is included yes

my girl still listen this is a supermodel my girls too she won't be playing right now I hope

see retires she is but she's been contemplating retirement you got a nice

nine-hour flight back home and you a new artist so he ain't got first-class you

and 37d period the new eyes are

beginning to [ __ ] man yeah I remember

when South by Southwest was like popping yeah that's when you kind of found out about artists I never knew something cuz

she was always wanna flight with an artist they was sitting right next to you in that middle seat it was like yeah yeah

okay yeah yes true or they were sitting in first class and they didn't have no hate record yet you're like I'm a little

man who roared right now wha that's fine reason kid was a good kid like he was a

good kid I was bad to him I didn't want to meet him he didn't tell me he was bringing I wasn't here to meet somebody that I would like yeah I'm just laughing

at just saying good kid he's 28 years old why is there not a kid 28 is not a

kid I just stopped doing they kill me on Twitter when I call people kid it's just

that well you're a kid so Nate I don't know but I'll say it even here huh everybody's a cube when you're older no

28 it's really seeing the citizens are called 40 you own a good kid anyone yester well yeah anyway

now it huh senior citizens consider 66

three-year-olds d5 will call a 30 year old kid oh that person a phone person

maybe a 3000 1630s and of course is a man I'm not I don't want it to mean and

I'll get wrong man yeah it is I just laugh when I hear it I didn't want to be friends with new grown men like a new

artist here comes Rory inviting some [ __ ] new [ __ ] a cool guy Rory Rory

nobody no more [ __ ] here no but I know me no no I'm new reason was cool because just the way he

approached me in like on social media DMM me like he and you you guys can I

could just tell his conversation that he was cool you could just sense it sometimes we tell a guy you would like

right yeah but no I

y'all can make you jokes on that ship but not when I met with him yes I was I I would never just bring some random fo

getting here that I knew when I met with him yesterday yeah random but that's why

he would leave me people named like oh yeah great Louisville good guy kill your whole [ __ ] family duck tough guys did

you guys think reason from CDE was coming to shoot all of us maybe how would I know okay have you heard his album Oh Joe I

did hear it how you know reason was not a killer that's true I didn't say he was it was nice I said I don't think he's coming

for truth don't invite no more killers roaming but no I didn't invite him to

family dinner he loved the podcast I said you know stop by on the way come kill us at a workplace camera you're much less likely

to shoot someone when there's a good meal on the table not to feel like yeah that's not a fair comparison

he's a cool dude oh wait like them I like this project we talked about a [ __ ] thing that day is two hours and

23 minutes and I have at least 700 it

might have been through let's go paxil is hurry up here let's go thank for what that's what L ate at one do say

it other no that's the following weekend I'm coming back just so we can record because you guys didn't want to go to LA

so I could stay there for two weeks so what are you doing anyway you know I

don't know LA [ __ ] I don't know avocado toast I still get money be so

you know rebel is it chasing this paper how convenient is that debt

alright I'm gonna [ __ ] out here [ __ ] you [ __ ] all right that's fair you'll go

home and try to figure out why he shows

up on the New York can you shout out the

hedge fund no no I got a flu that's

acquired yes that's acquired that's the promise not Alto very funny good what if

that was mall playing the flute on Jay [Laughter]

there's a flute over there the door latching that right there one thing we

all need hey yo that's him Renan Ted

good man rin-ten-ten always mine that

was a record it was hating him but you know ho flaws is all you found it a booby trap the

world didn't just Tommy Smith it was him

Tommy Smith is a track runner oh I saw a picture I saw the picture yes I did I

did now that you say that you saw me and Beyonce was Flo Jo so well my my track people my track group chat was buzzing

she did the Toni Braxton why she wears 17 outfits here come Toni Braxton with

the [ __ ] praise and adoration yo no one could ever be me the way that you

were me shut up she put a witness around make up with

your [ __ ] sisters it's a random girl I look just like her I could do that same exact diamond with a bob yeah [ __ ]

got a bob wibble wig on it right I'm getting out of here I'm gum going on I had a few important

things to say but I'm away to Wednesday when our audience is bigger no yeah I'm gonna get few [ __ ] out of here okay

today will embrace new acts like Rory make friends when it goes that's cool

it's cool Wednesday Wednesday it's [ __ ] home yeah yeah I'm on you [ __ ]

muffins pause I'm sorry I know what you don't only [ __ ] making me pause ding-dongs and muffins no we're not if

you don't think the dingdong train was don't rain wasn't a pause what does

dingdong say sexually yeah what's not what the sleepers nod flute master over

you laughing at me I didn't make you guys play the accordion when you were in middle school this is Saturday right so

what accordion they try to like make you play hot cross buns yeah but a fight so that was that wasn't

long lived yeah why'd you play the chord

[Laughter]

so today we played old songs right yeah all right so I am going to play right

[ __ ] Johnny Gill ma'am that plan Johnny Gill cuz I still feel away about

Johnny Gill running off with new editions named after being a late entry

that's craziness I will kill Joell Ortiz if he owns for a

slaughterhouse its name by mistake right now Samba play just saw late add-on in the

slaughterhouse though I'm a well anybody didn't want it outside of me I would kill except for Paul and him will

probably actually own it I would imagine that well why you're not mad at luring keV I'm a no Anna keV Leora lovely or

leave with the definitely imprint Leo I've heard I won't say here because I do

have a business affairs podcast coming soon Leo is included in that the future of

business I don't know what Leo doing right this second huh no wait hold on

you met a Johnny Gill and you branching off to do a new podcast and just telling the group now wouldn't you hear me you

just you just said I have a new business podcast that Leora's part of I know you just literally just said that recorded

you know this is a recorded podcast I did not say I have a new business podcast I said my new business affairs

segment because as loose as we talk here like we took we don't fact-check we don't

know anything we're all really stupid here cuz we're men however did you grand

scheme of things we know a few things that are of some importance in areas

that are of some importance sure so that's all I got so yeah business affair

segment it is coming soon and boy do I have a lot to discuss on the state of

America having nothing to do with me recently learning that the first thing you should do when you get money is get

rid of it look at the growth he went from the state of the culture to the state of America I like it

America is really ass backwards all the broke people are mad at being broke and

all the people with money are figuring out how to be broken think about yeah

it's [ __ ] up out of your Mitch Wow

how convenient is [ __ ] debt uh Nicki

was calling up here and then we left and then she hit me oh she could finally

call back no she definitely did hit me two hours later Sam ready and then it

was over and then she hit me the next morning Sam ready it was Halloween she's

in LA then she had me at four on Halloween it's a what's up just letting

you know what's going on okay just letting y'all know what's going on in streets when you guys go home thank

you for that I'm still figuring out how to do things all mo drove the parks out

that [ __ ] midnight on Halloween lights let's get it in here but we

didn't do it one day we will actually speak to speak to Nicki and see what's going on there

other than that happy Saturday to everybody I was really gonna get into

some real heavy [ __ ] but I'm gonna I'm gonna wait I'm gonna wait till Wednesday so we could talk about Santa coming yeah

100% until next time everybody have an

extremely fun and safe weekend if you don't I don't really give a [ __ ] but I mean I'm trying to figure out

initiatives and until next time we'll talk to you guys about all the [ __ ]

and [ __ ] next week until then I bid you adieu keep us in your prayers God knows we

need to be there one