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trying to sub me sub you you're not the

first and I think about when this Jam

comes on Rory sorry sorry to disappoint

yeah yeah when when young David comes on

for me Oh funny to bump into you here

[Laughter]

it's funny bumping into you here

no no no I get that part I'm talking

about young David all the way here three

years ago I've done it and I know you've

done it a lot don't look at me and be

too cool I said you think I told a girl

it's funny bumping into you what's wrong

now you pumped in disorder it was funny

I have but I didn't say it but you said

it in a cool way yes you did you're like

it's funny but apart leave every hey

strange at her but Joe do that no one

the girl was gonna be another Wednesday

do that at our front door Oh didn't

think I'd see you here

no you are sick or if we look at you

later pause hey sound feeling on a

Wednesday man I feel like we started

pretty somber recently I won't feel good

it's one of my feel-good records many

flashbacks more has had many flashbacks

don't lie

what's up with this [ __ ] bit I'm

listening to record Oh

everybody knows a girl like this we did

it anywhere

remember the Saturn young right I didn't

care much about things man oh yeah you

should be dancing at work by now you

should be there see I want to go to

party we're like this is the dance song

like where everybody gets up on this one

oh oh [ __ ] the Dave is coming on oh man

young Dave

microphone check one two what is this

welcome to the Joe Budden podcast

episode 198

I'm your host Joe button here with a few

of my nearest and dearest friends mall

is here parks is here roar you see or

Erickson is here and save on is here how

is everyone feeling are you guys good

great I'm great yeah you guys kind of

always give the same answer there we go

so something did occur in your life this

week that paint is on purpose yes folks

it's cold let's call ah but they called

that's never really seen the real

definition of divinely it's tangible I

like it that's drip that looks like a

scuffle

yeah moles in here with some stuff yeah

if there's a drip and I've been drip

work today right cuz my closet is man

small in my crib so I'm and Cyn owns

like she's taking over like nine rooms

and house so I got a sneak around my

house to try to find rooms for me so I

go in a few days

I know the feeling even though I don't

have a house am it's rough in my house

I'm being abused

it's like going girl but listen [ __ ]

on its on my outside like I going a

little spirit room I go in the closet

way I just throw a bunch of old clothes

and I look at some of the old clothes I

threw and then I was like damn and this

[ __ ] Joe don't want exactly oh my god

it's crazy

not even Joe will wear this not even Joe

outfit yeah all right it's not a lot you

wouldn't wear simmer it down apartment

78 post that pic of you crowd surfing

with some some dirty trues on a

sleeveless shirt sleeveless shirt and

trues can't go to sleep sure just a

while sure everything gonna go with The

Trews when you got one pierre-jean I was

gonna say what actress you got 1 2 Peter

James you little make some [ __ ] man they

weren't cheap so you know uh listen so

you guys are feeling great even I saw I

thought of mixi boys was out and about

hold

before we do that I want to say what up

to uh a kadai and shout out the [ __ ]

at work she had out to the [ __ ] out of

work shout out to the YouTube community

shout out to the Spotify community [ __ ]

out to the immature and mature crowd

shout out to all you [ __ ] now back to

the mixi boys which for the new audience

is Rory and Maul when they decide to go

out when they hit the texts to each

other the side tech fam you're me Rory

did not see each other we as each other

yeah not worthy so you so this what

happened right I didn't see him I came a

little yeah because I was in the project

has to be like start explaining before I

even get to the joke but go ahead fine

you said the mixing we weren't really to

make some boy boy I got I got there a

little late cuz I had to go to a

birthday dinner so I didn't get the nah

mean they're not me no past so um it was

that Irving Plaza I'm across looking at

mall like with all this room in this

space with bottles all this women know

if you think of morgado missus family

wouldn't match sparklers around mall it

wasn't I'm sitting there we just we were

in urban Plaza there's never shoulder to

shoulder with you like relaxed aren't

they twins no relax

that's why I won't really try to look at

mall

[Laughter]

should be i maxxtow back to the mixing

boys and most is my lover hey it kind of

felt like like the mixing boys might

have broke up yesterday cuz I'm looking

over across Texan wall they're mixed

language might have broken I yo yo you

got like a extra pass over there cuz I'm

you know sitting on top of people right

now see you guys got a lot of space you

guys doing jumping jacks over there some

aerobics so I'm always very comfortable

at the cacao yeah yeah

very comfortable mad mad elbow room yeah

I think he had a coat rack to Caracas in

the building tonight yo how I'm feeling

I'm killing this room and everybody was

killing the house

I wasn't killing it so then I'm looking

over a mall looking at his phone

no respond to my text messages left I

read Rory we go through every text

message board I responded to every Nabu

yeah we did see some definitely at the

same show all that's good mmm it's

always a few different perspectives to

things right what was your perspective

well how did it go on yet again I'd like

to hear how this night panned out from

Joe's counter all right let's do it

let's do it you know you can change the

world from your couch you're right

that's true I'm home once out dope

straight off iPhones home home on the

couch yeah you can why was that such a

dope I would crawl of course we're only

wrong for to think that no one else

would seriously say that except for Rick

rose except for Richard Ross he was

doing it he was really doing it he was

well why was this little mazing all

right who was done then they go on a

Palm Pilot oh Emily I think I just did

there all right never

yeah hi first [ __ ] to move away from a

pole the Palm Pilot the big LED

technology gas them in this area so

really wax all right so anyway so I'm

sitting on my couch looking for content

I click on Rory's it's the snap thing

because why that little circle thing

lighting up at midnight I don't know

whatever night that was click on it of

course [ __ ] mixi boy number one is

out mixing it up have some st. John

concert someone's got to keep us out in

the street footage in front of the

scenes footage mosh pitting in front of

the scenes phone moving in front of the

scenes that was yeah look at Mickey boy

Rory out in history gotta be seen on the

scene oh my god should be out like that

glad he only invited me to sit like that

cool mmm does he know me then right when

it go from him mmm yeah wait a minute my

in the same small cuz you always trying

to add some extra mystery to Yoshi so it

was like Oh different angles like oh

it's the mall angle it's all illegal

thus I was like ok

mole rory decided to text each other and

be the [ __ ] mixi boys again right

and then I was happy and then some time

went by and then I seen another snap of

a [ __ ] picking Rory up in the air and

throwing him into the curtains and

makeup and making him float backwards

yeah would another [ __ ] had him by the

collar and then Rory was talking

aggressive and then that was the end of

that snap and I was like oh come on Moll

wait a minute wait a minute so now I'm

like I wish these two [ __ ] will not go

outside anymore when I'm that beer

honestly because y'all don't know just

go out and have a good [ __ ] time

backwards and why I don't know I was on

it right now

verbal altercation with see Rory at all

last night I swear to God we did we was

in the same you know we never we would

sex each other I didn't see the curtain

Rory just said you was somewhere with

bottles and chicks I'm telling you what

my fans know but what happened what was

that

Oh security guard one one that's all

dog that's it was actually way calmer

than what they look like

yeah it was very only words into it

would bounces everywhere like the Irish

side you love you get anywhere we're

bouncers were really I'm not denying up

just can't think I'm no I think you do I

I think you do when I say good at you

know that that's news that's what I

somebody when I say get into it I mean

you'll you'll check a [ __ ] that could

probably win the fight

[Laughter]

seen you check a few security [ __ ]

yeah but I'm in like I didn't got beat

up by security on la Morena way sir that

happened when you didn't have the band

no that wasn't like a band situation

that was just we was on the other side

and of some rope and he grabbed me like

without saying [ __ ]

okay so then naturally I reacted and

then another security guard came gotcha

and then it was over okay so situations

is exactly why don't we my if you was it

I was around some [ __ ] a long time to

go cause the security yeah I'm glad

secured secured some random fortunate I

am my [ __ ] in spot need claims that do

say Palooza there should be no reason

that I'm in st. Thomas with a mic stand

trying to fight off fight off people

lose a gang on the low but it was I had

a good time I had a great time I'm sorry

where we had a little fisting no no that

uh you know sometimes you need you I

don't need to go up a little bit okay it

was one of those really like tell the

bouncer my dad will have your ass

[Laughter]

you'll be fired by tonight also glad I

did because I wouldn't laugh but then it

would probably never heard white wig in

a fight and not pull that out have you

ever gotten into it with the girl that

had brothers or cousins that's almost

every girl yeah that's when they get

scared all the time chicks want to smoke

with me like you ever seen a girl cousin

beat up like that backfired we had our

cousin Erin come up here 224 that was

the fight like damn I my cuz you'll

fight somebody that don't know how to

fight and feel like you're armed nice

you fight somebody to know how to fight

you play what that [ __ ] ain't work like

he had more reach he was stronger like

yeah you got to be careful bro you got a

massage every buddy up I want to walk by

just got to know never know be true

that's true

no it's funny about that I don't know

why I was thinking about it earlier but

just knowing the human I was thinking

about knowing the human body right

actually it started with me thinking

about cuz I dispute on him in the mouth

so it started with everybody saying they

know how to play spades but nobody

really know that play spades yeah it's a

different face they say and you know how

to play spades and then that led me to

knowing the human body right because

that same thinking applies to fighting

like is the difference between you you

you will fight and you can

fight and a [ __ ] that knows how to

fight right that's true like I can fight

mm I don't know how to fight Larry if

some [ __ ] dead

you don't know pressure be is a [ __ ]

that's gonna hit you in your a spot in

your cheekbone and now you're a

vegetable yes I do that yeah and then

somehow that led me to if somebody knows

the human body like it would like an

ugly chick touching you that has that

ever happened and then like you're

feeling good oh wait hold on yeah I know

you get it oh yeah yeah you're bumping

the ugly chick that really knows like

the body doing the bar that's the

problem with all these [ __ ] fancy

doctors nowadays now all the gyms that

we used to love it's over with like the

ugly chick with the fatty yeah there's

still a few out you know

underappreciated today very

underappreciated the work done my butter

face that's cuz cuz fat butts now are

not as you know they're everywhere now

and it's now rarity me Rory went out

Doug one of the one of these nights last

week or some and he was like damn and I

can't front it's a lot of good doctors

out there in the world well there's only

four that they rotate between we was out

and usually when the fat ass is started

the doctor would just make a really big

[ __ ] ass that's all it was it was

just a big ass them shits are cut

proportioned sheeps it's a like works of

art they're moving like regular asses

real different from the first time you

ever was with somebody with that so

Takashi 6:9 found himself in a little

bit of trouble

what you want me to do bad before before

we get into it though because I know I

read something online where they were

saying a lot of people are now saying

they don't believe any of this is true

that they believe he's trolling again

because his album comes out Friday they

said no there's no footage of him being

arrested or nobody being arrested

there's no footage of them being taken

into a building a court building a

precinct anything which I think those

are older pictures though okay that's

what I'm saying

if you pull off of go ahead troll I want

to know what your album budget is if you

got the feds as your marketing plans

work I'm just saying anybody who thinks

that I'm not angry at you a lot of us

are in a state where we just don't know

what to believe we don't know what is

true what is being falsified I

understand that in this particular

instance my opinion is this is not a

troll usually people that I've known at

least have had those kind of run-in sir

this to me has been in the making for

quite some time which to me is always

it's always disappointing when like

sometimes you don't want to be correct

in things like I was very serious on

this podcast when I was saying you know

it's you know the kid is charming and

the kid is likable you know you can do

it a different way you can do it a

different way your music is good like

you don't have to do it this way so I

don't know where y'all want to start

with this because and my brain is a

million different ways to tackle this

number one with me probably starts at

artists and identity crisis is hmm

that's interesting I see it a lot I mean

I don't know if we want to start there

but I mean yeah we can start there why

not

III feel really bad for Daniel Hernandez

mm-hmm 6:9 not so much mmm but Daniel

Hernandez

you know and this is this is probably

unique to [ __ ] that get into business

but when I got into business is when I

learned that whatever I thought about my

favorite artists and my favorite artists

might not have been the same like I

didn't know that mmm

honestly so you take this kid and you

look at all of the old pictures that's a

that's a fast progression to what

occurred what we see with the hair the

tats the images that's where I'm going

with this a lot of people are caught up

in their images and they're losing

themselves in that hmm I don't feel like

Daniel Hernandez would have ever would

have ever gotten here Takashi six nine

probably was on the expressway here and

for me is sad like it's sad it's so sad

I sit there and I say well damn what

what could we have done guess what you

[ __ ] can't put this on the old G's

like that's dead that one foot that's

dead that for a little bit because that

used to be a big big that was a growing

argument like yeah we're like this cuz

you open like this we like this because

y'all didn't teach us this we're like

this because those days are over my

[ __ ] the OGS are talking and they're

telling you exactly what's gonna occur

and I'm saying this cuz the Fat Joe clip

is going around I seen or Eclipse going

around like I see I see Clarke talking

that's me talking

it's us talking I've seen Charlamagne

talk I've seen I've seen countless

[ __ ] talk and say this mimic the same

exact message so it's like you're kind

of just powerless you at that point

where you got to let the youth occur

because we've all been there but when

you're watching this [ __ ] like what the

[ __ ] like anybody with wit feelings

should feel the way about it so I don't

think it's a troll I don't think it's a

troll I think this has long been coming

I think that he knew this was coming

when The Breakfast Club in

you happened and that was confirmed by

some of the reports that came out it

says they've been in contact with him

yeah see because that's where all of

this gets really weird this [ __ ] really

is confusing so you know let me tell you

where I was confused you go to The

Breakfast Club you fired everybody I

don't know what to think about that I

know that you were just in the diner on

or wherever on Madison Ave with Lucien

Granger's son and then it was a shootout

occurring see we already didn't know

what to believe with this kid and now

when things like that happen I don't

know what to believe because you've

added to another variable that's way too

powerful which is Lucien Grange and his

family now mm-hmm because any [ __ ] that

owns that much of the market share in

music probably doesn't want

gunshots by his kid right yeah that's

safe to say he's he's probably going to

take some sort of action to make sure

that doesn't occur and when [ __ ] have

that much money any action is plausible

absolutely

so back to malls point I'm not mad at

anyone who does not know what to believe

there are a lot of variables here that

are confusing I was confused

earlier when I saw okay so he goes to

breakfast club does that [ __ ] I think

that was for side I think he was talking

to people saying you know everybody's

fired we know what time it is with that

Wayne got to go into detail there also

said Trey Way was just some [ __ ] he made

up it's not even a thing he was saving

face I think for a lot of you I was

gonna come the next day you do you kids

think that people are that stupid I mean

I'm asking that old [ __ ] rhetorical

question cuz yes young people do think

[ __ ] are stupid nobody believed that

nobody believed that nobody believed

that

cool this is where it gets weird they

come to you Saturday or to contact you

let you know you know [ __ ] is on you

hmm

do you want protection only if the young

[ __ ] ain't took heed to nothing else

the past year and a half of what do you

think you gonna say no no I'm fine see

because I seen his Park has a long time

ago I believe Jail saved life sometimes

I do I believe Jail saved my father's

life if when some [ __ ] is [ __ ] up

sometimes jail will save you so he tells

them no the next day plan on going

wherever he's going to the casino

somewhere they with the Intel they have

deem it to be a threat to to innocent

bystanders at the casino they go pick

him up and now it's him and three other

[ __ ] in custody let me ask this entire

room a question and this is confusing

because see now jail culture is involved

and civilians don't we understand jail

culture street culture in the ass [ __ ]

let me ask this whole room a question

tell me how many times in your life

y'all seen the feds ATF and however many

other divisions pick up for people

I'll wait I will wait tell me no I'm

definitely seen the feds pick up more

than 40 you've never seen that many

divisions pick up for people it's never

it's happened you ain't seeing it often

right work them [ __ ] when they

trailing you for years

no they want take a stay in the street

yeah bill Jones we love ya we got the

phone tap we hit your mama house your

own house well you can stay out there

hang yourself they don't want to pick

him up

right that's why he got away with so

much that the barclays shooting [ __ ] all

allegedly all that stuff that he kept

getting on teams now and get away with a

[ __ ] thing let's don't no I'm not

saying that but why it continued to go

because they were building

case oh yeah see then and that's where

it's confusing too because the cops and

the feds very different things

so yeah the cops put it let him out go

on whatever but and [ __ ] law that they

picked up for people and then it said

he's in general pop and that's when I

had enough that's when I had enough of

the confusion cuz then it was like wait

a second if they're trying to save his

life

seaton [ __ ] like me general pop means

bad you you in there with the [ __ ] you

know what time it is that's what it

means the things like me so if they're

trying to save his life why would they

let him go to general pop and when you

go to when you go to jail and you're

famous normally you automatically go to

like PC PC your own sell your own

protective your own you know something

because you're too much of a liability

the jail can't it's not you so important

there go the jail can't even afford to

heat when one of these [ __ ] come do

something to you so I was I had enough

of the confusion mall and that's when I

call my dad right well a lot of it to is

you know we got understand I mean you

know is I hate the fact cuz ya'll know

our champion four six six nine a lot and

you know I was hoping the best form

because I do see a lot of potential in

them I've seen a lot of great things for

him but we got to understand that this

ever man with these you know what

everything is is so visual we got to

stop doing because a lot of times be

incriminate ourselves and like when you

live in a certain lifestyle and even if

it's your friends because even if dudes

around you like you know I was talking

some hallways and it was like yo even if

he had dudes around him like if he

wasn't carrying a weapon if he had dudes

around him that's carrying a weapon they

still gonna like that falls on him too

cuz I'm like the first thing I'm gonna

ask him yo did you know he had a gun and

once he says yes that's it like you knew

firearms were present but a lot of the

times we'll create these cases against

ourselves we mean and like do

that are living that lifestyle you know

you posting things on the internet and I

said all the time and I'm like oh people

still think this internet [ __ ] is a game

like they still think that these people

are not on the Internet like they're not

they don't have divisions like dedicated

to just sitting on the internet and

following all of these all these guys

it's a real thing and we gotta wake the

[ __ ] up and stop acting like this a joke

because when then people come knock on

your door it's gonna become very real

for you yeah like very real and then

that's when you're gonna be sitting

there thinking about all this [ __ ] you

shouldn't have done but it's like yo you

gotta learn it go stop playing on these

phones because they are not playing the

FBI is not [ __ ] around with hip-hop

they have the Internet

yeah they're not it's not just Twitter

with the feds let me continue here so so

I call my dad and I said dad why would

this kid be in general pop in MDC and he

I told him what happened and then he

explained to me that MDC because my dad

has spent time that's why I called him

is different you know the feds are

different

he said if he's in general pop it's the

safest possible place he can be and he

said if he's there people go there

because in MDC

PC there is no PC PC is the box PC is

the box and the box is on the top floor

and you don't just get it it don't

matter who you are so if you go there

you gotta ask for SEP it's not it's not

called going to PC it's a set it's to be

separated and normally when that happens

is because everybody in MDC it's the mob

in there it's this and everybody in MDC

is snitching hmm it's conspiracy

I wouldn't say everybody snitching no

ninety says a lot most of MDC is

snitching and telling on each other

which is why I set up like that which is

why [ __ ] are requested [ __ ] have to

be separated so he's saying if he's if

he

in general pop general pop it's it's two

houses on each floor mm-hmm a hundred

[ __ ] in the house um

one door and you only you only leave in

that door that door will open you'll

leave that room four times a year the

infirmary court court and it ain't like

the cops will you go to court every

other week of some years every four or

five months like you're not leaving so

the only way something would happen in

it was explained to me is you know they

got him in a house with none of his

Cody's with none of the [ __ ] that they

think is looking for him so and and

everybody in that building is aware

where they are so if something happen to

em is gonna be from a [ __ ] who is not

on the cops or anybody's radar that know

somebody that know somebody's in that

house mm-hmm so okay that makes that

makes a little more sense of that part

in the least but then I heard it was an

emergency bail hearing coming up it was

supposed to be to yesterday but now it's

today we I don't have the verdict of

that because we're recording ahead of

time of course he was tonight

yeah the last was last I read today he

was denied he was denied and now there's

your lawyer appeals or whatever now

there's an emergency bail hearing right

he took his passport took one point

seven from him so I don't know I won't

know what to think if he gets out but if

he gets out he might get out of house

arrest

something like that they they will keep

track of him

of course yeah it's just some port I

mean I kind of thought their strategy

was when arresting him was to get him to

snitch cuz I don't think they think that

Takashi was this kingpin in a RICO case

but he may be aware of what the [ __ ] was

going on so if you give him a threat of

70 [ __ ] years yeah just tell I mean we

did well that's how did we that's what I

think that's resting that's they use

that tactic to try to get people to talk

yeah but as

is [ __ ] up because you know again it's

just showing you that the feds are not

playing man like they especially with

this gang [ __ ] like they're not they're

not playing around like they're not

[ __ ] around like it once they feel

like you're involved in in gang activity

they're gonna follow you they're gonna

watch everything that you're doing

they're gonna build a case against you

and then once they come just like I so

what do you want to do I will say as a

civilian that's always been one of the

questions I kind of wondered to myself

is why gangs I promote their gang

because it adds like so many charges

charges you can get it was created for

you like I mean example and you know

again this is another case it's like you

know what Bobby in them it was

unfortunate because here's these these

young cast that's making a new life for

themselves and doing great things and

have a promising future ahead but you

know here comes the feds now we're

putting into all of that because we've

been following y'all and we believe this

is which I've been doing etc etc this is

another case it's like yo they're not yo

the the feds are not playing like they

have really not [ __ ] around and this

is clear that they are watching

everything they are watching so you know

me dudes gotta you gotta be smart man

like you got to be smart out here man

it's not a game like I need like these

young dudes to understand like this [ __ ]

is not a joke of it like the feds are

not [ __ ] around man they're not

playing I don't know what more evidence

[ __ ] need like we saw it happen to

Bobby we've seen it happen it like I

don't know I don't want it I don't get

it I don't understand what needs to

occur for young things to and if you and

if you look at it it always seems like

you're a young millionaire they come

knockin as soon as you feel like my life

is you know I'm in a better place I'm

traveling making this money a month take

him offense I mean it's all comes to it

I'm so glad that they they snatched them

I'm so glad that they snatch them of

course you don't wish jail on anybody

but this wasn't a week I want to read no

horrible headline cuz he want to go to

casino after saying whatever he said in

The Breakfast Club and

save cuz it's security [ __ ] around

them you dancing troubling Nickelback

fans what do you troubling killers for

like I don't this like I didn't want to

read that headline so thank God they

went they heard some [ __ ] snatched him

up preventive measures I'm all for it

I'm all for that I'm praying for I'm

just praying for him I'm praying for him

like I've been praying for him yeah it's

unfortunate but no it this writing with

this writing was on the wall how quick

do you think they'll go through with

trial and all that well that's the other

thing

see I'm gonna learn a lot after this

bail hearing and then I'm gonna see what

they do because mm you're not doing time

in MDC you just waiting for you you

waiting for your court date yeah I mean

we stood it's like it's still a lot that

we got to just sit back and just yet for

and you know yeah so he's gonna wait for

a court date so depending on that what

happens in that bail hearing depends on

how long he's gonna sit I would imagine

that they want him that they would want

him out of there rather quickly I could

see that being disruptive yeah just a

guess

SMERSH it went pretty quick if I recall

probably two years probably took was it

even that long yeah one and a half two

years assume sighs I I don't see this

happening in the next six months though

this one is over man there's one is over

I hate to be the negative just tell

everybody what's going on but this is

wrap yeah and like I said again is so

unfortunate man because this kid had a

lot you know I think he just had a lot

to offer to the game and to the industry

you know he is just I just can't think

of another way it would have ended

outside of unfortunately death I was

doing there was no other way for the

stand yeah but I mean if you again man I

I feel like he was you know cuz he's

still a young kid he's still young you

know I mean and it's like you gotta give

like you said like Joe was saying you

know the oh jeez are talking so you know

but again you know we've all been

younger when we had old to do songs and

we still made almost

mistakes and we still didn't know that

[ __ ] but it's like you got to give

people the opportunity to change you

know I'm saying like you got to give now

to not feel like his opportunity for

change was like right in front of him

you know I'm saying like things were

like his albums great to come out which

meant touring you know I'm saying this

so it's like you can see things about

the chain that's why I feel like the

feds do that [ __ ] purposely where they

know all of these things that are you

know your life are happening we're

changing but you know what more before

you get in before you even get into that

right cuz I just try to put myself in

the psyche of this this kid who don't

know [ __ ] about [ __ ] not 6:9 but Daniel

Daniel Hernandez before we even get to

that

you know I empathize because every you

know a lot of young acts you're gonna

have that experience where you learn

that you're being robbed yeah or you

learn the the measure to which you're

being extorted and often at times it's

from people that we really care about in

love so I'm listening them tell the

story on The Breakfast Club and I know

in rap we can't say damn that hurt me

and I felt like this but that's

basically what he was saying so before

we even get to the feds picking them up

with all of this [ __ ] is trying to

kill me [ __ ] I'm certain that there's

still some type of shock from the [ __ ]

that have been holding me down and the

[ __ ] they've been running around doing

XYZ the [ __ ] that I felt was family

and all of this

it ain't that not only is it not that

they robbed me blind I'm alone back to

Daniel Hernandez in dark times [ __ ] you

still only gonna be left with you and

only you that's why you know like

sometimes artists will ask me for advice

and this is off on a tangent and I

always say [ __ ] just sound really simple

but it's like but it has like a lot of

gravity to it I say [ __ ] like you know

just be yourself and always be yourself

up-and-coming artists hear that and be

like [ __ ] can you

something L me like what are you talking

about right like when [ __ ] made it and

try to dig in today hindsight bag and

give you something like you'll just be

patient practice on your craft it all

sounds like [ __ ] yes

sounds like brushing someone but be

yourself and always yourself learn who

yourself is so pivotal in this game

because I don't believe again I just

don't believe Daniel Hernandez would

have gotten any of this I don't believe

Daniel Hernandez is running up on [ __ ]

in the projects in Brooklyn or and at

this is fifties office or wherever with

the ham on them and just Rob I don't see

it I know yeah but I mean that's what

works now with the kids Oh creating the

content with the problem all that

nonsense I watched I was listening to

see what academics was gonna say and he

was saying some [ __ ] and in the desk

of chimed in Tesco chimed in and said

yeah but you know it's not making

excuses for him this is a grown-ass man

and I'm like no it's not no it's not no

how's Eve 1920 Hey

no eh sorry I know young people hate to

hear that [ __ ] I'm 22 I'm grown [ __ ] no

you ain't no you got 22 years on earth

and we in 2018 about to be 19 especially

if you start popping when you were 18 or

something like that you kind of get

frozen I feel like yeah

what do you started popping you know

he's not he's not he's not age age

doesn't make you you know grown or I

mean he hasn't even you know 22 years

old for male you're definitely not a

grown man at 22 so there's no so much

learning that you have to do and things

you have to experience now granted you

know the last two years of his life he

has experienced a lot and done a lot of

things but even with that being said

he's still he's still a young kid me

still 22 years oh it's like just

supposed to be out of college like if

anything you know Sam's like you're not

supposed to be caught up with the feds

like come on bro like that's how was it

yeah it's like that's insane like you

know I'm saying it's like these young

kids man I'm telling you like these

times a we got a really really sit back

and look at the landscape and look at

what's going on man like that these kids

are

they're meeting their demise way too

quickly now way too quickly it's like

you're what are you on a hurry to meet

your demise for you putting all this

[ __ ] on the Internet

you know I mean you're walking around in

life you don't serve [ __ ] you move in a

certain way you don't it's like you know

just be young and enjoy life man this

[ __ ] right here is not I'm telling you

this is a big issue in in our

communities man like this is a very very

big issues and a lot of this [ __ ] has to

do with social media for sure I was

gonna say is it that [ __ ] Joe said about

being yourself is very valid yeah

people who don't people are trying to

find themselves on the internet people

don't know what they're all the she

finished his popping off like you still

gotta earn an income and be something

and you're not gonna be able to do that

being this thing that's no longer

relevant so and it sucks because the

while they're trying to find themselves

they'll see what gets the best response

on Instagram and that's what I have to

be and that was my point with Takashi in

doing all this crazy quote Street [ __ ]

that's what was working the best for him

so I'm gonna become that person if that

[ __ ] didn't give views or people didn't

like it

I don't think Takashi would be running

around doing that [ __ ] yeah that's how

he pushed his music and his career

before anyone knew his music he was the

instagram kid

Wayne 85 live on Twitter said Takashi

tried to put his two weeks notice in

with the blood don't work like that you

can't put your two weeks that's probably

definitely not work like that when the

feds is following the feds don't care

what press when you're going and tour

and say you're not known as they don't

listen we got what we need already don't

worry about it that's no reason for them

to be like I was good enough yeah

absolutely don't do that well they don't

pay what they said shitty for whose

death oh it's a lot more there's a lot

more to come from this story 100% more

will be revealed

I'm praying for all parties involved

um man I think there's any scenario

where he does not do any jail time

nope not a one no cuz he was already on

probation on probation you're going down

you're going to he got a you know he's

going to do something absolutely he said

he is going to jail said he's got to get

for offer if you get arrested for

violating the parole are they not saying

you know you was with the [ __ ] that

did that know a couple of them charges

is not it was you with the videotaped it

and then gave it to AK reportedly right

yeah and then shortly after and that's

where I have a problem with AK who's

rolling these things that I lacked

getting questioned there's no way I

won't talk about that I won't talk about

it talk about it no I will talk about

what I've talked about it a million

times and it's always in this type of

instance like I hate I'm not that guy I

don't keep so much [ __ ] after the fact

like that's just not friendship to me

it's like I was watching everything they

struggling at kept referring to him and

Takashi as friends like I mean it was

good friends so I kept trying to tell

him and that's just not friendship to me

that's not again again in in how oldest

academics 28 so don't get me started on

on on [ __ ] that are 28 and over that

seem to have such an affinity for these

18 and 19 year olds I mean you know

again we in this era where everybody is

you know my bro my bro and it's all for

look it's all for social media it's all

for oh he knows him he knows him but

it's like you know I remember when there

wasn't no social media so I know who my

real homies are who my real friends are

people that really cared about me now

it's like you know dudes a latch on and

be friends and befriend people if they

feel like you know it's a good look just

for their for their social media for

that's what I was getting at last week

when I said it's all these people taking

pictures together it's not yeah there's

no way that you people like all the

pictures that you are all the people to

draw in pictures with it's impossible

y'all can't like all these people

no I know that makes me sound like the

grumpy guy that I'm just telling you

what I know but it's like I said that I

was like yo you go I go too part I don't

like going to certain events because

it's a bunch of people in the room that

I know don't really like each other

because I've had conversations with

people and they've said y'all I don't

like this person but it's like a week

later you want a party talking about I'm

so happy for you

what mmm like now I can't I can't I

can't be around that type of [ __ ] I

can't I can't do that fake [ __ ] I'm

sorry

all right we talked about Takashi longer

than 1/2 hours and I wanted to I was in

a great moving great spirits you know me

no prayers to him prayers to everybody

involved first it to the families and

you know hopefully you know the best the

best comes from this man but you know

it's just a tough tough spot to be in my

brain is so obsessive see I went to all

of that to like a few podcasts ago I was

only talking about I talk to my mom

every morning I'm so close to her like

if I was wiling she would say something

like then like that's in luxury in a

blessing yeah absolutely like everybody

just don't have a parent that's gonna

step in when thing when things go awry

even if it's not a parent somebody that

genuinely cares about your way yeah yeah

like don't take those people in your

life for granted because that's not easy

to come by because now once you get high

day by disappear everybody leave like I

got a good good kick outta 50 thing get

this little [ __ ] away from me I'll need

Affairs by me nah but see I don't I

don't I don't respect that either

because again 50 was in pictures with

him he was hanging out with him he was

doing things socially they were all

everyone was using right see that's why

I have a problem with this because it's

like though somebody grabbed a young kid

and like yo listen and not saying that

50 didn't do that behind the scenes I'm

not I don't know I'm just saying like

but don't publicly post and try to make

a mockery of him getting arrested and

say y'all don't calm I like those a

little distasteful yeah wow wow you

doing so that that lets me feel like

yeah you will never like this kid

oh is that where the distaste for things

to hearted would 5th

but that's like that minase of it the

light it's like come on so you didn't

really like this to you those are

different

of course the Mayweather [ __ ] was

distasteful but this of being putting

your arm around the kid in being quotas

yes or no a [ __ ] and then saying that

yeah that's that's foul 450 you don't

don't thought like come on man don't do

that I had that initial reaction until I

sat with it a second and then I quickly

changed my mind when I thought about all

that fifties been through yeah like 50

is beef with a lot of people like not

rat people yeah I know you're talking

about like so in that instance I could

see he would be the exception to how I

felt he would be the one person that

could say don't bring the feds by me no

no no because listen that was

unnecessary he did not have to post it

oh no you're missing it I got past my

that's unnecessary from 50 probably

seven years ago yeah but yeah but we got

it we have a lot of necessary [ __ ] but

that's we never address it like that's

not come on man again it's for a show

it's for the the comments - laughs well

that's why I don't leave my house cuz

that's when the show starts I feel you

yeah in my house I know what's going on

except for with my car that night but

yeah well that's when the show starts I

don't have time for when I realize you

have no more room since then as all of

them yo since end let me a couple of

songs

slapping before I get to that save on

came over this morning I asked him how

things was going what haven't you

he said not good she's doing two-a-days

in the gym I said oh [ __ ] - it is his

Saint breakup oh man is over for you

fans yeah wait what was the captioner

and she goes she got some fine ass

trainer find it in this [ __ ] he bawled

- named davon

but trainer name is Dave on you gotta

pop one that it's okay to pop Dave on go

have that [ __ ] like Rorion urban Plaza

well you don't want that Dave on smoke

but that's it so that let me do two a

days you know that's when [ __ ] is bad so

then I've got to think about sin songs

and some of the subject matter like

that's just all [ __ ] your button to

you

what's about time you got got some karma

back that's true all the things you

different from the other songs like big

black girls almost like good and they

dissing me I'm in bed like damn a few of

these can go well I never wait I don't

worry I never want to think that about

my girl that she's what that damn few T

songs can go I hate thinking that about

me or anybody else why my home in bed

trying to watch the Rams of the [ __ ]

Chiefs thinking damn this one could go

would you just I just don't want to be

there how does that didn't sign up for

you on the podcast just thought you were

making jokes but they were really crying

for help

and what we're doing is laughing at ya

like yeah yeah yeah thanks let's just

get back to friends off this Takashi

[ __ ] worried raised a really interesting

point that I thought about as well but

probably not as deeply as Rory I

what is friendsgiving it's new like I it

was new for me I saw like at least 12

pix wins French give I've never even

seen the friends they only show food

friends given is this social media

Thanksgiving that's all it is is to

Instagram Thanksgiving are they like all

the trendy little brunch things Rory and

Rory your lights made up because grits

on the Seaport what is that one put

thrown in yachts

Chesson checker thing isn't making

anything up yeah that's because you come

to a brunch no I got chess and checkers

at home yeah that's what friends giving

is is just you know everybody gets

together that's I guess popular in their

own circles and from my perspective it's

just a way for men to get women to cook

the funny thing is the different all the

friends given I've seen so far it was

like a lotto with just women women are

sexist taking me out if you want to

realize women don't really want us to

come anywhere like I haven't seen a

picture or video of like the fellas just

as somebody's Crayola yo [ __ ] cook the

fried the chicken you bought that do

that in my crib and talk until I got

religion yeah but it was like just

Sunday winning Rory used to come over

make his little boy a little specialty

taco salad I used to [ __ ] up with Uncle

Sam yeah yeah one night it was me Cory

man [ __ ] in it [ __ ] huddled up

trying to come up with some secret

barbecue sauce or some chicken wings but

I gotta be [ __ ] like that don't got to

be a fight but little gotta be don't

take pictures of it yeah like look yeah

no we don't we don't gotta be fighting

that's crazy game on well in women get

five minutes of [ __ ] IG stories with

their friends and I get an emoji over my

face this is crazy

I'm all listen I'm always amazed at how

often women are seeing their friends

yeah like these chicks are crazy what

one do y'all breast why do you want to

see your friends every night that is the

corniest [ __ ] in the world that's one

and two then led me to how come only

girls are allowed to make new friends

and relationships like simple make all

the new friends in the world mad woman

encourage hey oh hey [ __ ] let me make a

new friend she and listen to Joe women

women befriend women that they feel like

might either be competition or someone

they need to keep their eye on

yeah who's keeping your enemies closer

mmm they don't really like each other

how convenient is that Wow dad this is

just cold word for keep my eye on this

one let me see it starts to be a pattern

of what might be your taste yeah

oh if your girl if your girl feel like

you might like it like her let you know

what was it last time some pesky when

was the last time your girl got a new

friend that you don't wanna be was just

way they're old friends like their life

friends might be ugly

cuz those like the people they went to

high school with and [ __ ] all their new

friends are pretty you've never seen a

girl just find a new whack [ __ ] this is

my friend now ya know the girls don't

befriend ugly girls cuz they know that

you don't want to do it them see no I

think I've seen girls right now ugly

girl and just send them to the same

doctor in Colombia like this girl to fix

you up like cuz they used to be ugly to

some of them like yeah I was gonna send

you to my [ __ ] out there you gonna stay

there for five months but because that's

difficult the girls go out there to not

be ugly no more and get the work done

and then after they get the work done

they can't move for like three months so

they need a friend to come do everything

for them I'll be at the Wellness Center

back to the Wellness Center well in the

front Ness in the back yeah and then

then they forget their captioned ready

that how they were always made fun of

for their curbs when they were kids to

eighth grade before was an we know you

see that passport if Lyra shows one more

happy where you've been in the past six

months I feel like I have Liras yearbook

at this point she has posted forty five

high school pictures and I'm she looks

great though she looks amazing

yeah she does

I like when Lehrer goes on vacation no

more beat off to Lehrer know why you

gonna throw that out here Bob no I have

not no I did not know you did it that's

craziness I know you did that's great no

you don't I don't I don't know but yeah

I did see you'd like that cash doll

tweet about her lack her lack of sex

life I could relate uh because of my

lack of sex oh you just like all the

tweets you can relate to I've never seen

like any other tweets few tweets so she

broke up her mail and broken it I think

they broke up over there great picture

right right you think yeah you don't

know I don't know I think yeah I've been

checking it every day see if you deleted

the pig nah I just think I think she's

single you know she is well she would

have to be saying she hasn't had sex and

I would hope she's saying well like that

we would think that until we saw a super

trailer two days ago mmm

so sometimes you have to turn the way it

all started sometimes you do you have to

return don't have to go back were you

cleared to play that were you clear I

guess some layers business layers you

skip but you going there we going I

don't see how the cached all have to do

with this well on Love & Hip Hop

let's see what you did there I'm gonna

smoke em was this a case of mendeecees

having his cake and eating it too

because when he wasn't with Yandy was he

with Erica when he wasn't with Erica

would he be back with Yandy because

there was both women carried to term

pregnancies would have some overlap

all right Rory good [ __ ] off man

no I'd like to hear from you what would

you like to hear from me your reception

to the super trailer uh I didn't have a

reception what did the people think I

didn't I don't know

well more your story you're at you're

the people some people yeah parks it was

well produced I thought so I thought it

was well produced I was actually pretty

proud of that super trailer very

different from Love & Hip Hop super

trailer can you uh

it's like real mature content mad

bullets mad police mad cases the mad

adult drama yes I'm tired of seeing

these little [ __ ] [ __ ] running

around and no Joe Budden won't be a part

of anything like that can you walk us

through the voice-over session oh no no

I'm now walking with you anywhere

walk the fans gonna walk where'd you

record

no no quad that's my debut album when

I'd walk with me stuff not gonna do that

now are these you know did you write the

no back

no no he's comeback season indeed

happening now squirt it's upon us

where can the viewers watch this one in

on my page one and where have you been

like were you here put a comeback focus

focusing on his podcast yeah I did

notice I've solely been focused on my I

have been focusing over I I don't see

what the joke is

I well what is y'all joke y'all right

trailer came out chilled out y'all know

I was doing it y'all did an episode like

we're the joke I didn't do anything I

didn't do a thing

they're fill-in actors what I've walked

away with from the reception to the

super trailer was wondering how often

other men are [ __ ] in their household

your brain would wonder about how other

men are [ __ ] in the house did I say

that what did you just say I said how

many times other news is [ __ ] in their

household now wondering how [ __ ]

[ __ ] their household you can omit a

word and change the whole sentence don't

how many times we're still you're

talking about how we thank you for the

week I'm not having sex no November

you're doing it you like that cash doll

[ __ ] even after she wanted to vote for

Trump during them of midterms no she

didn't honestly I haven't been oh yes

you didn't want to vote for Trump in the

classroom honestly I haven't been paying

a lot of attention to cash doll recently

playing playing hard I did check another

play hard to get unfollowed and follow

and unfollow Wow

although internet hard to get huh laughs

like some old man still follow it now

I'm on you now I'm not now I'm on your

now not I still follow you no dope video

I'll record a video no no I just keep

you an STD girl [ __ ] everywhere oh yeah

I mean that's now can't stall got next

I'm gonna be a wagon you like city girls

I do Joe is such a thought I'm a city

boy

you know me I'm a city boy I am a city

boy even the suburbs though I'm a city

boy talking about I'm somewhere boy yeah

now I'm talking with that city girl [ __ ]

I'm phony why would you be phony I don't

know favorite of everybody in qch me

[Laughter]

what's your favorite City girls bar I

don't know from that well verse just yet

okay and please don't call it a city a

city girl bar cuz it'll probably be some

nasty ratchet and you just don't sound

weary saying that don't be in your city

girl back

no they got a colored old records those

are had torches art yeah I was a gifted

a free JT fair maybe I'll wear it on

Friday well not if you're gonna see a

bouncer well if you a t-shirt they'll

probably ask you just until it's locked

up well [ __ ] her faces on there oh okay

then yeah that cancels that who faints

JT's oh yeah free JT

free JT JT come on mom it's always lit

what would we talk about Jews now you

won't let me hip up no that's not what I

was talking about you are wondering how

men are [ __ ] in their house ya know I

just I just saw me getting getting a lot

of heat for for what was shown in the

scene fam I'm not trying to do all that

man [ __ ] oh [ __ ] yeah

okay I'm not trying to do all that

singer hot [ __ ] off though she'd never

hit you with a bar guys [ __ ] oh you got

barred up but that whole oh but since

there's something like I could go out

here and ask how many men want to [ __ ]

me and everybody's gonna be like but if

you do that about any dude that has a

girlfriend I mean they all gonna be like

no cool man I have sex my wife tonight

so soon they really give that ball but

she did call you senior citizen dick she

got that ball for you I don't I didn't

know that that was such a stinger on

over this thing I didn't know cuz you

when I read it I was like now I was

definitely at Don DeMarco I was

definitely like

that was unnecessary definitely a bad I

just didn't think I was just I think it

was a stinger like who who thought I was

still like getting busy still who has

looked at me and said oh man oh she's

got a she's got a problem on her ears

tonight nobody it's only it's only funny

because that was do you see that guy in

the fedora chain smoking Newports

tonight do you see the guy over there

making out with his dog

you can carried away with the joke my

bad yo but it's only funny though cuz I

was like sins walk off it's kind of like

that's how she walked off the stage

remember she got back in the car

obviously she did I was wondering how

she did get home choos the car well

where was she walking to though

frustrate the producer never leave my

baby alone and then she walk back to the

car knows you don't want to go I'm

getting mad disrespecting my oh no no we

laughing but that's crazy now was a

little upset that uh you have Lex at

like creep squad lunches

yes you rich dolla like all you low

critical like why Lex got a family quit

here we're not doing a Love & Hip Hop

review every time y'all see something

we will review anything it's gonna be

what you doing what you said and what

she was wearing

yeah how convenient is dead chickens

collab gal we're reviewing I can't wait

for the cry episode oh yeah nobody Joe

that's part of Joe's like brand he's

brain crying that's the cry yeah Jolie I

got a cry cuz the people know I'm

emotional I wear my heart on my sleeve I

put pain in my lyrics I was definitely

in the trailer - yeah you know so he got

a cry to make it believe like blow yo

he'll put you on the field tougher he's

in touch with himself like he really

he's in touch with his emotions so Joe

will give us three cry episodes I got

him at three back episode a drinking

game anytime Joe cries take a shot I do

love to cry [ __ ] be drunk if they take

a shot every time Joe crow yes that's

the drinking game no I don't want to

play that though I'd only be drunk Wow

why do I love to cry to you although I'm

an empath yeah see thank you finally

some some honesty from you yeah all

right all right good good

absolutely it's finally had finally some

some straight talk out of your mouth

yeah

and that was that what episode was that

I crying episode 1 yeah I'm given three

oh you know it's funny the whole time

when I was crying I was thinking because

I probably love me about before I'll be

crying I didn't like that cry all I was

hoping was damn I hope there was like a

cute cry a cute you're not a cute cry em

you got Kim Kardashian crying abilities

because I didn't know I would about the

car doing the same up this time you

practice

no I just happened like in the scene

you better not be like to cry and like

anything like like they were at dog for

breakfast yo you better not hate crime

you just said you know I cried no but

that's the way to cries a man that's

what I'm saying I hope I dig that crying

get a tisca flow Oh hit a note while you

cried before you judge me is it

different if I make the like crying

noise before like water comes from I

like if I'm just like a Preet cry no

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crying like that yo joke naw man you

can't do that dude friend I do that for

my friend for over 10 years we don't

talk about anything he doesn't know how

I feel you don't know what's going on

with me internally no better not cry do

the podcast you could cry like tears can

flow down your eyes but to be like I

gave him a little Lexington no only I

didn't know it was a random cry was

abrupt you couldn't stop you said like

cover your mouth something like no it

was like and that was the thing that's

the thing cause if you cry would you

like your mouth opened then you run like

the risk of the ugly cry so I didn't

know I was gonna cry so my mouth was

closed that's how the noise

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Oh No that's like the finale though

y'all not getting there yet was crying

at one time crying at senior citizen

dick no it is gonna break that night

that should be funny but I've cried on

TV both nah but you never cry like that

though is just here wasn't the best cry

before it was tears it wasn't like you

wasn't here I gave him two noises oh

don't cry we know sometimes it's been a

while

yes Ben I probably would like a death in

the family something I did like

something really really like you know I

mean but you probably wasn't worried

think that he can do sound effects

that's definitely worried trying to put

drops in you don't come from getting

dusted off and just make up rules

I don't skip over safaris climactic

Dyckman a basketball game you know how

is that his storyline it was like a

minute video first of all you said I'm

back home he was on Dyckman I love Joe's

whack-ass advice to Safari no you

shouldn't go perform there I'm

definitely watching this season spelled

it well what you doing on Mondays that's

a hard word just watches Larry say what

you doing on Monday Love & Hip Hop we

got lunch we got some content to create

word I'm gonna get some new Wi-Fi so I

can go live no we're doing red you gonna

watch anyone entertainment no boy some

of my why fight of the night on your lap

I was gonna say something but I

I'll let you live yeah yeah Bob I don't

know what be going on files I don't know

if I'll be doing ish it's a little

sketchy

come on let's talk about let's talk

about Tory Lanez versus Joyner Lucas -

really cool rap names out to give you

that much man

- the cooler rap names and a beef Tory

Lanez versus Joyner Lucas how did this

occur to my knowledge Tory Lanez was

talking on insta live a fan said hey was

thinking about joining a Lucas and he

said yeah I'm better than that [ __ ]

would like you'll be talking about

something totally different and someone

will comment like yo tell tell us about

EPMD that wouldn't win that either way

Tory address that like I've toid you

blah you're who is that perishing EP no

I'm just saying that would have went bad

either way like if tour would Ettore

would have said he didn't know who

joined Lucas was joining Lucas would

have felt probably felt some type of way

about well he could have just continued

talking and not he did acknowledge the

common he continued to say yeah man I'm

better than that [ __ ] and I'm better

than all these [ __ ] and I mean even if

even if I'm not better I make better

songs and I make better melodies and I'm

doing better so technically I'm doing

yeah I think that was me and Rigsby Phi

was saying I'm a better rapper he kept

saying I'm doing a lot better than you

showed it know when you hit the [ __ ]

death sending shots at you and say hey

you want to come to a concert and just

chill like relax for a night stop

writing you wanna come to a concert and

see with all the high really get down

yeah yeah you ever seen 20,000 screaming

your name you try to get some boy maybe

we know he was gonna try to get some

balls off on you that night that's why I

didn't go

you heard 20,000 screaming your name

when the lights go out

yeah that's great mmm he's all good yeah

joe yeah hilarious in an arena yo Joe

section 301 let me just tell the

listening audience boy I really enjoy

how like my career is blossoming right

now only because we all laugh at my

career you guys are awesome check your

phone it's not me no cuz like you're

doing fine so we could joke about it no

if you were doing shitty like we would

just be mean yeah Dennis picking all you

that's [ __ ] I always wondered what

Rory was really thinking when we were

coming up with the whole of lost rollout

when it wasn't looking too good Rory was

in the trenches with me don't know I

didn't look like we're gonna work but

know me it was it was 12 records of

dying music I wasn't like you know this

this is definitely gonna pop probably

one of my better albums

so I'll records our table music yes

brought one it's definitely better

project Zach to Tori and joiner tell me

y'all tell me I saw Tori catching a lot

of a lot of heat because he said Iran's

better enjoying Lucas and a lot of

people disagree what was he supposed to

say am i he would definitely clean me up

because it is okay for artists to say

you're not he I can't [ __ ] with like

he's nice I disagree not when you're in

joy said it situation fool about who you

said it about a lot of dudes you didn't

want no problems with like who like Lupe

I said that about Lupe in retirement

they don't I'm just saying it regardless

though you it's okay to say it even if

you're not retired rappers no they say

I'm doing well when I wasn't retired I

was saying

Lupe let's rap right now [ __ ] that's

what I'm telling okay so away from you

what I'm saying is as a rapper it is

okay for you to acknowledge when

somebody in rap raps better than waves

especially if you're not a rapper yup

yeah wait y'all that's we're not arrest

with this divided raps though he raps

y'all are right no

he's worried hold up for a second y'all

are right that's the right thinking when

you're not a rapper it's like I never I

used to never understand like coal being

Jordan on [ __ ] used to talk about like

stump you you needing stubbornness to

survive like you you needing to be able

to just ignore what probably is very

common knowledge to a spectator so you

can get where you have to go I used to

ignore that but that's where we are in

this conversation y'all are probably

right of course you could say one thing

is better than you or acknowledge that

you right not really on that level but

when you're still in the battle know you

gotta kind of blindly say I'm better

than everybody because that's the goal

that's what you aspire to be that's what

you got to work toward every day and you

have to believe it before you could do

it okay now I agree with that but what

was it so yeah of course I knew Lupe was

a superior wordsmith than 97% of rappers

mmm I always wanted smoke with the

[ __ ] dead we're better than 97% I'm

saying I'm not saying that you you got

it like you know avoid them or anything

like that but was also key in feeling

like I am better than somebody is you

have to have a lot of reality mixed in

with that like you have to face reality

like Jared Jared Dudley he's not running

around feeling like he's better than

LeBron James you understand I'm saying

like he's he's gonna deface we he's not

gonna back away and run from guarding

LeBron I'm pretty sure he would guard

LeBron but he's not gonna sit somewhere

and be like John better than him but

that's why basketball

that's why sports and music while

similar is very different in sports

there there's tangible evidence for you

to conclude from in music it's all

subjective

some things are clear-cut music too

though we know who raps better than who

clearly no we don't yes we what no we

don't

what do you Joe you did not just say

that you did not just say that I'm

serious we know in raps who raps better

than who in some cases and in some we

don't

well there's some small isolate you

verse

Bay is a close call I guess right it's

light lupe versus Mims is I think Lupe

probably rhymes words better than

everybody in the world except for em

like so despite your saying but that's

not that all it comes into play with

rapping that's that guess that's my

point so in a battle so when people are

identifying their favorite rappers

they're going off what they assume to be

you know what what their checklist is

okay so listen like most [ __ ] don't

have Lupe on this list by the way right

okay so let me actually being a being a

rapper or retired rapper do you think

that join the Lukas raps better than

Tory yes and I would think that 95% of

the other rappers in hip-hop would feel

the same way and that's not a knock on

Tory saying that Tory can't rap

it's just certain dudes you're not gonna

be able to rap better than but

unfortunately more I'm one the other

side of it now but now that I'm retired

and I'm retired I don't really put all

the weight and the raps

like I spread it out so do you think

Tory makes better music than Joyner

Lucas now making better music and that's

that's where it becomes subjective

because what type of music do you like

you don't like join as content and you

know is that one is really focused on

just rapping like Joyner is a lyricist

to the core and that's his rap better

then that's what Lauren's primary focus

on their own with that Jordan is Meghan

Joyner is trying to catch one of course

don't be fooled

no he's focus yeah like he said he's a

rapper though he's not Lori's not a

rapper he can rap but I was around would

say he's a rapper no but Tory's primary

focus is to make good music y'all think

it's weird that we just automatically

give certain people a rapper a name even

though they're not rappers like a lot of

people post Malone for instance it's not

whenever a lot of people call possible

but it's not weird

only because now you know artists played

with which is why I say Drake is such a

huge influence because Rapture

played with melodies and you know the

sound so much in hip-hop as leaders play

with raps and singers in single

overwrite that has a lot to do with trey

songz is one of the first I've really

made it really really like popular you

know I'm saying what R&B singers rapping

right it's just now you know dudes just

you know it kind of like yeah I can I

can do that to Chris Brown's another one

that's great at that

he wraps wraps really well sings really

well so it's like you got a lot of dudes

that play with that but there are some

that we know are he's a rapper

he's a singer right you know he dead

like which would go to their stronger

point like he's a stronger singer than

he is a rapper so we're gonna say he's a

singer you know I'm saying like Tyrese

Tyrese wrapped as well but we know

Tyrese to be an R&B singer that's the

only difference

and what Oreo says no knock on him that

to say you're not join the raps better

than cuz join it prides itself on his

raps like I'm a rapper yeah you know I'm

saying like that's what I'm saying in

that situation it's okay to say yeah he

raps better than me he's a rapper yeah

like I don't understand why I don't

wanna rap it's like when I'm dead when

I'm in the middle of a IG live telling

my fans how much better I am than

everyone in the entire game and then

someone brings up a name and I'm like oh

wait besides him it sounds wack

nice you got us and we make that

statement see that's the problem it's

okay to play know now that dude is

different that would have been I

would've gave Torrey more respect for

saying that if you just get sometimes

located like nah he when he was [ __ ] but

why keep why he gotta think that because

we think it what if he don't think Joe

and Lucas is different what if he don't

think joining Lucas is as dope as we

think he is okay so then let let us let

us help Tori out and say yes join the

Lucas raps better than you do it's not

even close I'm not well going to Lucas

raps I don't even know why we having

this discussion like join the Lucas is

for Cory singer he does right that's

what I've been saying Tori does rap well

there's no knock on Tori it's just

that's your knock you Tori no I'm not

I'm not knocking tour you can tell

that's the thing and that goes back to

when we talked about if you disagree

with somebody you automatically claim to

hate her now now you hate her

no I don't hate that

no never oh hey don't nobody oh I'm just

talking general joiner replied and said

hey let's make a beat he replied like

[ __ ] 2019 crooked eye yo stop what

you're doing right now meet me in the

studio pick a beat we both go on a

secret room record the verse we release

a secret date that we will exclusively

review it for the fans let them decide

and if you're not down to do that to

guess what they'll talk to me no more

no joiner those interested Tori's not

leaving Miami - club - well luckily if

uh that battle you in Detroit in a

studio would it be that you vote decide

like no luckily adora for us if Tory

doesn't do it

Joyner we'll just do a perspective from

Tory will get Tory's sorry

Oh Joyner poet oh yeah her tours okay

damn I was trying to hear Joyner as Tory

on demand will be dope probably will

happen why are you guys are you guys

paying attention to the next step in

that exchange well I have to here the

first step

I didn't hear either of their records is

it on one beat parrot that they picked

okay and then what's the rules there cuz

I would have too much of a want to diss

you in the middle of that - are they

just rapping or is it diss records

hopefully some distance or throws like I

don't want to just hear the little could

do lyrical miracle better did somebody

okay and now that we have returned after

hearing both sides of the story now that

we're a bit more informed on this

situation so no one sorry should leave

Lucas hello but I still stand by what I

said he should feel like that and enjoy

good resolute to both men from gauging

in this French opposition in that field

right now that I've listened I was like

I said off camera is difficult now

because everybody can rap fairly well if

you make music just like you can produce

fairly well but there's a difference

when someone's on rappers like there's a

difference for your producer you could

play keys a little bit versus someone

who plays the keys exactly it's a

difference I will say though after

hearing him on the liddie beat

I hope Tory takes him up on his request

at then yeah I didn't know I wanted to

hear a joiner Lucas Tory Lanez song and

so just now yeah no and yeah I could see

it out I'd like to hear it I mean when

we joining Chris Rock I liked it so yeah

it was good so I wouldn't be mad at me

but I mean that's Tory's talent so you

can really kind of adapt to whoever he's

around for sure so I don't think that

would be a collab all right well let's

move on now from Tory and joiner if you

haven't been keeping up

molls been on a podcast tour certainly

has with other podcasts [ __ ] you doing

on me maybe like a small east coast run

where

north east northeast northeast you know

like the Boston New York Philly DC one

just like a quick one providence LA dude

van out to LA right quick I've done a

red-eye back yeah unknown for podcast

yeah he did oh six Marco's name another

one I did the other dude I like the

episode though I don't know his name

Oh Corey it's funny how you knew exactly

what oh yeah my Corey [ __ ] you did a

little stolen - you did a little show on

I heard it you do

well you told my my my like like the

last week in two weeks they're like them

this one like would run him out these

are these are months apart this is like

you name in like four months now

alright maybe I'll give you spot dates

maybe your unlike one of the spot tours

where like you two weeks off and then

you go back out one a month once once a

month I'll make a parents on some of my

favorite uh podcast I like to thank cuz

van gives a good interview yeah it was

it was real it was real cool talking of

a man he's one of my well he's before I

even conversationalist year before I

even did the show out I listen to his

podcast anywhere I caught a like at

least five oh you know yeah it's a good

podcast yeah he has he has a real good

real good podcast so you know when he I

mean asked me to do it I was like yeah

have a conversation and I thought I

thought is pretty dope and people seem

to be enjoying it what do you think

maybe this was like the clean up cuz he

had he had shorty on there dissing Joe

last week so he had to show that like

he's still [ __ ] with us know I had you

under I actually did mines I recorded

mines before he did so this is what I

got is when you say we need to talk

something compelling that was I know

that Brittany were in a triggers you

love it yeah why would that trigger me I

don't have sex we got to talk to said be

she has to fix this dude calls been

trying to get you pills but I have the

pills right in my table the hard shoes

my dad gave me the hearts

yeah the mall I listen to your van

Lathan podcast you listen to me own

family really disappointed in you man

and me why I can't believe you sat dan

let him say anyway before I say this let

me tell the listeners I swore I wasn't

coming in here to talk about hope at all

I'm trying to not talk about hope

seriously I see some of the comments

citing our New York by as you guys are

right I don't care I'm talking about

home self-conscious about it they say we

hate on nozzle ah so we just I think we

just had last year the I don't even

entertain that absolutely loves nothing

you can't hate not well Balkan I was

coming in here to avoid talking about

home and then I listen to you on Van

Lathan's podcast and you stood there and

let him say that holes verse on hah

remix was whack was the wackest verse

hole has ever spit and you just brushed

you you just went on in the flow of the

conversation because you were guest on

the podcast you just shout out to LA

right quick I understand you was an

outside town you know what it is I'm

learning because that was my that was my

first time meeting van so okay you know

that was really like our intro

conversation with each other which is

why I was dope that you recorded it but