Spit A Eight

all right my my my my my my

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letting every rock flow a little bit

letting every rock salutation

as they by filling out the a by feeling

good feeling good feeling good miss my

guys miss the crew a little bit yummy we

here tow

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it Rory made this dark ass on time under

sunshine

wait I did a Roy Roy Roy okay man

roar are you getting too much credit for

[ __ ] Rory I was making sure you said Roy

and that mean yeah this don't sound like

what you'd leave the studio with no

sound like yeah there's no deal of drums

yeah I could throw some diligence you

would make some a lot faster than this

and

you guys take my sleeper pick says like

that's law for what I like it's only

been three years

fit me into a mold I gotta keep the

people what they want

people be disrespected mostly benegas it

meet em huh you've had the word sleeper

for three years

go another route

yeah on a sleeper pick you know you like

play like some Street wrap or something

you gotta like make a whole 180 I know

what's going on in street rap you gotta

make a change well my lifestyle changed

my music selections changed did they I

don't listen to [ __ ]

things that are noisy like that make

that cause too much chaos while my brain

is trying to think you know you're

becoming a white person that's crazy I

need like nice young

music people know that Joe has been

white for my fan base while I was

rapping was all white that is true

actually

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she's got to keep a couple now the

mixtape Joe I think had the street saw

that was women

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microphone check one two what is this

welcome to the Joe Budden podcast

episode 209 or 210 210 episode 210 of

the Joe Budden podcast I am your host

Joe button here with a few of my nearest

and dearest friends Mallis here parks is

here Rory is here Erikson is here Savon

is here I want to say salutations to

everybody out there happy Saturday I

want to shout out to our Spotify our

listenership our YouTube viewership our

unemployed employed listenership to

college kids salute to y'all to gang

members Zulu wasn't what's poppin

let's see well the hedge fund [ __ ]

what's going on with y'all

y'all y'all main cold fans we here

[Laughter]

that's that's about it feeling good

feeling great how's my gang doing Gang

Gang Gang no your friends are doing i

rambling flannel sleeves just asleep let

me just get into

good get off his dick

good actually have the matching pants

too just didn't wear them to glee just

from the knee down well it's a mixture

of the flannel in there and the claws I

was wondering where the flannel fell in

there I you took your head off but it

looked like you were taking a lighter to

your hat and bringing sticks in it no it

didn't it did they did ever mastic so

that was the look it was the burnt look

yeah it was the I just got out of a

house fire look and I was the one that

did it

no no ma'am would you put that has fire

it's fired no no literally it's it's a

fire happy it's a [ __ ] spy

hardy-har-har Rory you guys get any more

jokes y'all want to get off because it's

a lot to unpack a lot to get into I

couldn't wait to see you guys

couldn't wait to get here yes I'm very

much I was really happy that I had a

voice

really happy that I had a platform to be

able to discuss to discuss some of these

things that I've been seeing

where do you want to begin

yuck did you guys catch these alright

let's get right into this let's get

right into it uh

you know I was in the house board I've

been being a total loser since New

Year's support year

this year farts okay I've been being a

total loser since this year New Year's

um I've been in the crib been like

family time all that [ __ ] so

Thursday came

it was like five o'clock and I didn't

have none to watch so thirsty me you

know when it's like a TV event to come

on get the planning in your head

[Applause]

whether the supermarket both went up to

chips out

Sam was really excited to watch this too

so yeah

I was excited because now we can watch a

TV show where we can [ __ ] on men cuz

usually wouldn't say and when I watch TV

I should sit there and try to [ __ ] on

whatever woman character is on the TV is

that the best like watching her rom-com

so here's the thing she knew I was

cornered on this one cuz she knew I

wasn't gonna support nasty-ass r.kelly

so I just had to sit there Indian style

and be like yeah man men are bad

so I got all the chips

then went home and I cut on lifetime

early like a loser and sure enough what

was on bright and early

Toni Braxton story oh no you were before

me no before you caught the alien you

don't hear me saying I'm a loser I was

on it like 4 o'clock I was waiting

already the Sun was out by naked

barefoot I was naked and beer for them

shits

toni braxton

ain't naked eating chips watchin spare

foot - watching the barefoot I

never saw me so this one was like from

2014 ok and then the allele one was next

and I didn't see that because we was on

solving that here I remember I remember

everybody watching it and that's being

on tour so that aired and then I was

really in heaven I was like oh this is

awesome so I started and I watched that

so you want you caught the Lea uh doctor

yes which was my second time seeing it

was a reminder cuz I did catch it the

first time we came or

let's start there I missed it at that

Lea won

my first door was boy lifetime's messy

which is what you tweeted yeah which was

bad timing no explain yourselves but

slow down

it aired and I thought to myself

boy lifetimes messy

Angelina I didn't tweet it I just chill

I thought they was messy because damn

why would you add or a little [ __ ] right

before the r.kelly [ __ ] like let's have

a little bit of respect like divided or

something like split it up but I didn't

tweet that it was until the end of the

Ilia [ __ ] with the day - part well like

all right wait a minute

wait

wasn't feeling the documentary no

fed through me for a total loop I just

want to know who the other days I gotta

be careful any other Timberland options

I thought you know time to see us I

thought it was one [ __ ] plan everybody

in

what they doing I gotta keep up here

just like a Broadway show laters the one

minute

[Laughter]

change

who on earth would think that Dame Dash

is supposed to be in Antalya a

biopic biopic I was off I'm off oh yeah

you would have to be of course he

doesn't

if you're adding all those other

characters in it you have to put Damon

there that's what she was dating before

she passed away so he would have to be

somewhere in the story before we get

there Joe I want to know did you see

when Dame got introduced two small kids

knocked over the vase and then Dame

flipped out they was like two young raka

fewer kids which one of those two do you

think was more

[Laughter]

he said and he said afterwards he's like

nah that's my family they just need to

know and I said alright my point is

that's true did the kids say that's

crazy he did well he said damn I gotta

walk back that's crazy fathers and all

the Rockefeller movies actually model

planes laid this man

he's gonna do a Netflix playlist with

listen I didn't think the Dame would

would be included in that I don't know

why I don't know why I be honest with

you I don't know why and I got to be

careful as somebody who was like around

for some of this stuff like when they

start making movies about it that's I

know it's over for me man um I was just

shocked to see him I was just shocked to

see him and then it brought me back to

when

she passed and and just some things that

I won't talk about but Damon was real

[ __ ] they just brought me back to a lot

I was like

lifetime's messy now I was just trying

to figure out how they were able to put

certain

characters in this like did they have

James approval like how are they able to

say names I don't know how are they able

to do some of the stuff if you notice

there was no and Lia music in it like

when she was performing she was doing

covers of other records that she

probably never did in real life and

Noel's records not to cut you off uh

because I understand TV a little bit and

the ruled they even played with the

tempo of the color fires of all the

covers it was real fast and real slow

and it was choppy than it was and I said

okay they couldn't play the music all

right I understand what they're doing

they did a good job for not being it not

having music but I know Tim I remember

Tim Berlin and Missy being super against

it and vocally when it was coming out

tweeting like don't watch that [ __ ] [ __ ]

out a we had nothing to do with this and

they still use their names freely

to clear names I mean I'm sure there's

some likeness thing in there that you

have to think of I don't know listen I'm

positive that because I wasn't one who

have to clear names I was wondering that

as well with uh

with the the our Kelly story because

they used his name they used his

pictures that uses they use this date

they used everything so I I would like

more information on the fair usage claim

of other people's name and likeness and

rights and well music-wise I know Sony

owns his catalog I know he's not a sole

owner of that so and the Saudis must

have been like I forgot it yeah take it

and some of the interviews that they

showed he's not he's not he doesn't know

them know the companies on him so if

you're trying to use you just reach out

to the company's right

I'm just talk about the name no I don't

and it's not like they I could go make a

movie right now about you and not have

to clear your name and you would imagine

by this point he own you are Kelly yeah

I think you have to clear names cuz even

you know paid in full they didn't use

the real names they use name similar to

the real names so I think I think the

arguing over will point is neither here

nor there when are Kelly came out came

out the day of and said hey

we're threatening to sue lifetime of

like I think they got this t's crossed

in their eyes dot it yeah I don't think

I think I don't think that threat is

gonna work and it didn't it aired and

one minute n I was in tears

yeah eight nine oh one which I always

feel a way about because sin is so much

tougher than then I when it comes to

watching things I'm always the crier

and I knew that this would be heavy but

with the music I paid a lot of attention

to a lot of things in this year the

background music with the confessionals

with the the teasers that they had

chopped up they did a really good job I

want to I want to salute to dream

Hampton I want to shoot it salute to

everybody who was actually involved in

the creation of this dreaming because

from oh yeah let me at the applause and

I was a dream Hampton because from a

from a production standpoint

this was done really well

this was done really well at 8:01 I was

crying because

that's what I'm gonna do and and done

with care I don't know if you know if

that's the correct word but she was very

delicate with everything that she did

cuz you're dealing with people that have

been through a lot of pain and you're

still trying to put together something

that will be entertaining for people

that's a really difficult thing to do

how do I make someone's pain be

something worth watching and dream was

very delicate with that and also very

cognizant on how we would receive it I

don't know if that I mean if that was

the point great I don't know the point

was to entertain us that's how great

this [ __ ] was maybe entertains not the

right word but to properly I know chow

someone else's pain is a hard thing to

grasp on a camera and edit it and really

put it out to the world hugger it's

difficult so maybe entertain isn't the

right word you're probably correct there

but just to put it out to the masses on

people coloring is not to to to educate

alert alarm I know what you're saying I

know not entertain and it's the wrong

word to get I think it's the right word

what's wrong to get into rest to get

this to resonate yeah to get this to

really hit home it had to be done a

certain way and

yeah when I'm crying at 8:01 you know

when you hear when you hear the

testimonies of all of these these

strong black women

like when you come on with all these

really fast edits I

what do you have to be so less domestic

you'd have to almost not have a heart to

not feel this [ __ ] so I'm crying from

the rip and I'm watching and though I

though I remember this this ever in this

time and a lot of this [ __ ] to see

somebody put it all together

that was that was pretty nice that was

pretty nice so as I'm watching I'm

looking at all the different people that

pop up and I'm saying to myself oh [ __ ]

oh they got the brother but I got the

other brother he went to jail oh [ __ ]

they got Sparkle oh she did got the

ex-wife oh [ __ ] they found this girl oh

they wouldn't got this girl okay they

got the nice they got whoever they had

to get them or no probably it was a

mouse but enough it was enough for sure

yeah it was enough yeah whoever was

struggling struggling with believing

some of this stuff they had enough there

to eliminate that yeah

at every turn it was a new face with a

new very compelling [ __ ] store the

producer guy yeah I really felt the

producer guy I did sometimes - what

didn't you feel about her you talked

about going to the studio seen a bunch

of underage girls and there was a couple

parts where you seemed a little bit know

every single person that was attached to

our Kelly and his entire career is

disgusting and nasty I agree disgusting

he was pretty good but there's a couple

it's like

I don't care I don't care 20 years later

of your intentions it was like you know

the tour manager dude [ __ ] outta you're

disgusting and I'm not sure if we wanted

to get there that quickly yeah well

let's let's have some of these come

let's start having them and I'm ready to

fight what y'all a little bit

cuz I'm now here to judge I'm only going

to judge are Kelly

judging any dope that was around at that

time around are Kelly witness these

things happening for sure into your

point of all the people that thing yeah

why not let's start the let's start the

let's start why are we in such a judgy

[ __ ] era it's not it's not about being

in a judgy era but when you have Joe if

I came to your house you had some young

looking women there I would pull you

aside Joe what the [ __ ] are you doing

know you would anticipate five mil a

year off for me I don't know that you

would I would know but that's the

problem okay but that's great to DES you

and that's great to DES more

clearly we live in a capitalist country

yeah but that's the but that's not but I

agree with you but let's not but let's

not ignore that part in this a lot of

people were complicit but a lot of

people were being paid mm-hmm I don't

know if they were being paid to be

complicit I'll take a further [ __ ] the

money I think they were participating I

don't I mean it's all I'm going I think

they were participating theirs off for

me to implicate somebody oh yeah he was

doing but I do understand what you see

yeah I don't disagree but like when you

it's hard to accuse someone of that but

I it's very possible I can talk about

when being on tour and you guys can too

and when you're pulling chicks and all

of us here pull women of age you and

your friends are participate it's a

participation in our post I don't know

what you're doing now we didn't know how

they fare okay I'm fine but when you're

doing that on tour and your friends are

pulling girls and you're all bringing

girls to hotels or studios whatever it

is everyone in that room maybe not

sexually is participating in the room

you're talking to the women you're

joking with them there's some type of

communication there's no way these guys

pulled seven little girls into the

studio and then just stood there while

our case gets messy because I could

argue that that and tight the entire

culture they've Rory just described is

toxic behavior OD but yeah like then why

why are we using that as a point of

reference because women because women

are of age and there's consent

see that's what I'm not gonna do I'm not

doing that so let me separate myself

from anybody that's toxic it's a toxic

culture that that we that that only if

people have reinforced throughout the

years I'm not using that and I'm saying

here so let me shut up no that's why I

do think that culture of being on tour

and grabbing women in that is definitely

not the most healthy way to live I

totally agree it's time let's call a

spade a spade okay now we're talking

spades and hearts when there's teenage

women and you're 28 years old well

that's why that's why we're talking

about what's about apples and bowling

balls at this point yeah like that's not

the same thing yeah you can call it

toxic I'm not mad at you for calling it

toxic see I don't subscribe to that way

of life anymore either but it's not

underage women

it's different okay there's a lock down

back here there's a lot there's a lot

done back here

let me start at let me start at and when

I'm watching the film

the first part that that I was taken

aback by I was taken aback by all of it

and no let me start with making my

stance clear

because I was reading a lot last night

and a lot of people were voicing and

writing their opinions and in this and

this time it's very easy to be

misconstrued or for your point to not

get across

because there's a lot of subtext going

on and a lot of underlying connotation

happening and what people are saying out

there so

let me just be clear

we're gonna unpack a lot of this [ __ ] I

don't [ __ ] with our Kelly at all at all

I don't [ __ ] with him I don't [ __ ] with

none of the allegations I don't [ __ ]

with none of the [ __ ] that I believe him

to have done I don't [ __ ] with the

predator predatory behavior I don't I

don't [ __ ] with none of it I've canceled

our Kelly quite some time ago long

before this canceled coke culture it's

come about yeah but that's me

story time briefly its

2004

maybe five and somebody that shall

remain anonymous I'm having a

conversation with this person and this

is whenever time this was this is when

that whole our Kelly and jay-z tour

debacle was going and

this person was sharing a story with

with me

this was a young woman in the business

someone who professionally had to see

our Kelly at least maybe two three four

five times a year uh and she starts

telling me a story about how she had to

go and see our Kelly for some

work-related [ __ ]

and she went to the studio

where it's weird because why is there

bedroom in the studio that was a little

weird yeah ah sudden she pulled her in

the room so they could talk about this

right well not just top a bedroom in the

studio isn't the weird thing because

many studios would have that wool artist

gets hired and went to sleep but the

fact that he had young girls in multiple

rooms in this studio is weird but having

a bedroom in the studio is not weird

ladies in the booth maybe it's a little

a

lot of studios

in except for cases where like we have

here where this better is the house

that's normal well that owned their

studios are different than people like

rented out students

we need to argue about this there are

some studios mall where you absolutely

correct this bill it's built that way

you go to sleep all that [ __ ] yeah

resort type show that's not a normalcy

yeah throughout studio obviously not

been there like a twenty billion studios

there's only been about maybe ten or

fifteen with bed and they were resorts

or someone's house but when you've seen

it it wasn't weird to you that if

everyone was in a studio that wasn't

weird is what I'm saying that's not a

weird thing to have in a studio I've

been - I've been to a CRC and right it

was not very track I forgot the UH

Chicago recording company no that's the

CRC the other one I forgot what it was

called in Chicago I worked at both of

those studios but and they did not have

beds but how this was described though

if a studio had a bed cool this was kind

of described like a makeshift bedroom

like like he made the bedroom if they

made a better they made a bedroom in

there but cool that's not a freaky part

so they go in the back they started

talking about this record and the young

lady tells me that made conversation are

Kelly pulls his dick out and starts

beating off

this is your lion she there no

and I said well you know she could spot

my face of concern and confusion

she's like if you ever utter a [ __ ]

word oh they don't you [ __ ] dare I'll

lose my job I'll give it like so I just

want I'm saying that because

great today we all are looking at that

did this dock in and we feel in a

certain way but back then

nobody wanted to want it - they just

didn't really want to broach this why

because that's how powerful our Kelly

was last decade

last decade decade ago like we talked

about we talked about and that's why

it's hard for me to escape that this is

just some real capitalist [ __ ] because

somebody does that gifted sick but that

gifted you know you know what I say on

this pocket one hit song feed a million

families so somebody who just seems to

seamlessly crank them out I

could imagine what that person is value

is to a plethora of different places

mm-hmm the person I was talking to

didn't work for a label didn't work for

the music business wasn't a man it

wasn't on that side of things mmm still

still was threatened by just his power

and presence

well anyway I only bring their stories

bring that story up to say I've

cancelled our Kelly from back then like

when you hear when you hear some of the

things the the rumors and all the [ __ ]

and then you speak to some people that

actually you don't have like [ __ ] know

what time it is but also I mean that's

which would the meet some movement in

the actual me to movement that we all

respect that's their beef like men using

their power that exact fear like he can

beat off in front of me and I can't say

nothing because the fear of losing my

job like that's the issue to be good

[ __ ] the underage [ __ ] at this point

that itself right there is the issue

with the me to move it one I went just

being terrified like men in power I

can't you can do whatever the [ __ ] you

want and I'm trying to feed my family

like that's the [ __ ] up thing I

understand and I don't think I think our

Kelly's problem is is way bigger but I

think a lot of men

do that with of age women abuse their

power for sure it's clear

I'm saying more in the music industry in

which which I said on this podcast which

the UH I forgot her name who said on the

UM on the documentary that why it hasn't

really gotten into music unfortunately

because it's been black women and it's

going in Hollywood because it's been

white women mmm and this is the first

time that doors are opening to like you

which is sick that it had to take a

nasty-ass pedophile to finally have

people hear out what's actually

happening in the music industry because

it's not just what pedophile [ __ ] it's

we've grown women and grown men for sure

that are doing this nasty studio [ __ ]

first of all Kelly is not the first

studio guy that yo come through to the

studio I

have seen so many yo I'm bringing my

homegirl through here she could sing the

core of course she can no she

they could never sing the bridge

whatever you are writing in your head

this sounds great when they get there

they go from there gonna ruin it yeah

might even let him lay it down they

might even put the course now I want to

make the record I want to slow us down

again there's a lot to get to

the first thing that I went to when I

was watching this movie wasn't abuse

abuse toward women

well no that was the first thing because

that's the purpose of mothers

but when the brother came on rather

early and told his and gave his

testimony about the younger the younger

one the younger brother yeah and gave

his testimony of

the child abuse from a family member

on talked about are Kelly's abuse from a

family member talked about him going to

are Kelly

to talk to him about the abuse from a

family member the response he got from

our Kelly I

pause for quite a quite a bit on this

part right here did anybody else yeah

one because I've had enough I've had

enough therapy to know it's oh that's

sick anytime you're dealing with child

abuse it's nasty

children children look to adults to to

teach them to mold them to take care of

them to nurture them protect to protect

them safe just safety so

so when you when you to learn from them

is actually one of the more important

parts I thought that it's truly by

example this is the example of what you

see I've gotten that from a million

different therapist

so when so when the abuse happens from a

grown-up and when that grown-up is your

family member oh

man

it's just a different type of trauma

so I paused there even even with all

this horrific [ __ ] that this [ __ ] was

was doing all this evil that he was out

there acting and flipping on the world I

paused there because

that's a really huge that that's the

taboo part like Flicka will get to the

women that are abused

but it's mostly because men be abused

this plenty of men men men who have been

molested

sexually abused

raped touched

fondled by

someone that they know that that is a

common thing if you look at a lot of

cases of mass murderers or rapists it's

usually a common theme that the

person inflicting these somewhere along

trust abuse happen I'll make it even

broader I would say 95% of the men I

know lost their virginity to a much

older woman but but but you know

you understand I do understand what

you're saying but let's not get lost I

do know a lot of men that have been

abused that never abuse absolutely they

never turn and abuse and I'm glad you

made that clear I'm not I'm not

intermingling everything I

know I'm just I'm just making that clear

for the viewership I'm just giving my

that my step by step that one it took me

as it took me a second it took me a

second there hmm like that that that

just hit me no I definitely feel like

you you know are Kelly being abused as a

kid I definitely feel like that affected

him and has something to do with his

actions as an adult it doesn't excuse

what he's done really haven't know yeah

100 ever excuse an ocular Kelly right

when this type of stuff happens I speak

for me like

men don't share these things but never

like I talked on this podcast all the

time bye bye [ __ ] don't really talk to

[ __ ] men are not coming up to other

men sharing about the the molestation or

the abuse that if that's happened to

them early on especial if it comes from

a woman for what it's worth you know for

a young man that's almost like a

bragging right you know what that

society makes us feel like that should

be a bragging right now that you bring

that up I remember one time we was at

the crib Joe and I think we was playing

truth the truth and a girl asked me had

I ever been molested and I looked at her

like she was crazy I was like no like

the [ __ ] question is that but I had

to take a minute and think about it like

oh but there are men that have been

molested but to me the idea was so

foreign because I'm like hell no well

let's stop there that's why I say it's a

lot to unpack here let's stop right

there for men how a lot of men correlate

this in our minds not our cuz I'm not

one of those people

it's with men and men that

that's my when I was a kid molestation

as a man meant another man touched you

what that meant to me [ __ ] don't speak

about the woman to man incidence yeah as

molestation let's let's stay on truth

the truth

also back then we was playing true for

true for one on [ __ ] he shall remain

anonymous that says true for true he

start talking about how his babysitter

took his virginity mm-hmm I said oh you

was raped yeah I wasn't joking

get the [ __ ] out here [ __ ] now we had a

blast I don't know that hey say what you

want right that's rape correct uh I saw

a clip floating around of cuz they

pulled out all the clips now it's clips

everybody and everything that everybody

did said it's out there yeah it's clip

floating around a Wayne talking about

him losing his virginity at eleven years

old and I remember baby talking about

that before I even Zack which is exactly

how I hear men discussed that that our

circumstance correct I never hear it a

different way correct I never hear it on

the vulnerable side of things of things

that happen so now so now I'll even say

when Wayne said that oh I think we stole

a little twist when he was like oh you

fitzy and I was already had my kid at

that time I hung out around a lot of

older people when I was growing up I

lost my a14 I don't think it was cuz I

was really trying to [ __ ] mm-hmm I

thought they [ __ ] right I should be

doing this granted she was 15 it wasn't

like it was some other [ __ ] but yeah I

wasn't like yo I was had to [ __ ] right

was pride doing what I thought the

neighborhood wanted me to do yeah when I

was 14 years I watching me [ __ ] right

I

can't figure out how jig even [ __ ] me at

14 know

nobody's dumb Oh sewing yes so [ __ ]

won't none that's all my lambs are men

men men getting abused by men and then

men don't discuss that so Minj is going

and lived their lives out on the [ __ ]

earth and

like you got to pick up the symptom the

symptoms of

people that have gone through this like

actually I'll go a step further I was

think about this too and now I'll get

back to the minute I think probably 90%

of the women that I have been intimate

with have also been abused correct

mm-hmm correct absolutely

that's scary like it's a common thing

what you're gonna do is talk to women

yes yeah unfortunately oh you have to do

is speak to women you'll be [ __ ]

petrified I think a hundred percent for

me

it's telling so back to the minute see

that's why men that are homophobic uh

alarm me let me tell you how my brain

works

because that's a symptom to me

why are you so [ __ ] worried about the

gay people that ain't thinking nothing

about you like the straight dude to

think all the gay people want to [ __ ]

him like the straight dude that is

personalizing everything it makes them

applauses me to say hey why why is this

so personal to you personal meaning

close to home know what's closest to

home triggers triggers when you know

yourself you try to keep those people

away from those triggers so [ __ ] this

homophobic all right thanks me [ __ ]

happen to y'all I don't say that to be

offensive I'm saying to say like some

people are not yep yeah people are not

sharing these things so you just need to

be cognizant at all times

[ __ ] the brother went to our Kelly

and said yo this is happening our Kelly

had to [ __ ] happen and said no that's

not happening

mm-hmm

that's craziness yeah common and normal

in that

type of chaos

but that's nuts look at the cycle that

it causes now

this [ __ ] get pop in two years three

years lady got popping early

that's the second part that uh

had me they starts on my how pop and he

was in Chicago see we in New York so we

whenever we got it we got it late so

that rain started started very early its

home out it was so my vibe and honey

love mm-hmm so this is from the RIP yeah

um before we continue with our Kelly

Aaliyah but

how did y'all feel about about any of

that story that was being told well I

mean we knew I was gonna it wasn't

really any mother information and I

always thought he was nasty for that

entire thing it's [ __ ] heartbreaking

I will say with his manager and the

fake and the marriage certificate and

then I started thinking more about

Aaliyah's family and that whole thing I

guess I never really looked to what

Aaliyah's family thought of the whole

thing I always just thought our Kelly

was nasty for that [ __ ] that made me

think more about Aaliyah's family and

and you know honestly for me I don't you

know I alley is no longer with us so out

it's a lot I don't I don't feel

comfortable speaking on with that but we

um you know you just take the situation

for what it is you look at it and you

say yeah are Kelly he is a sick dude

like he has he has an issue he has a

sickness he has a disease and you know

throughout the

event or the series you listening to

people talk and they're saying how you

know when somebody is so successful and

they'll use things like their success in

their their craft to write and create

music like

I believe I can fly so now if you know

these accusations come about it's like

there's no way the guy that wrote in

saying this can be this type of a person

like they try to use that as a mask as a

shield to then do six [ __ ] behind that

wall that they put up like look this is

the type of person a mr. type of music I

write I inspire people you know make

people happy like how can I be this

demon or this sick dude that they're

portraying me to be which made complete

sense I never looked at it like that but

they were absolutely right in saying

that like I can see that and these were

like you know doctors and psychiatrist

and people that studied the brain and

the way people think in patterns like

they people will do things like this -

have you believed that there's no way

that I can do what they're accusing me

of well I mean people get you even see

it now with the hives and that all that

type of [ __ ] people get really connected

to people they don't know and they get

attached to an image and to lyrics and

it kind of manipulates their own brain

into thinking this person I love even

though they can't really love that

person they don't know that person could

never do no wrong and that's a sickness

in itself not just within the artist but

within the fan all right I mean I know

we joke about the stan [ __ ] but it's

very much real like you really get

invested with a person and think they

could never do that but in reality you

have no idea what this person doesn't in

their regular life you only know what

they give right I was only bringing up

alia - I guess my point there was some

what some of those songs are

unlistenable

now yeah sure absolutely like it's not

just are Kelly's catalog no

I'm that off a lot of people are analog

see he made music with a lot of people

but the psychology of it like when

Sparkle was saying that he wrote the

treatment for that video yeah and then

when you just watch the video and listen

to the song like when she said he

dressed her it was all his creation and

then you watching me come to you so cool

didn't know you had mail like no that's

sick now yeah it's gross see the whole

catalogs sick

all of it Michael Jackson all the yeah

like a lot it is coming from a sick mind

it's coming from a sick way of thinking

which means this person is now gonna

create art from a sick mind from a sick

point of view just just the most famous

art Kelley drop ever my mind's telling

me no but my body's telling me like but

that's gross in this context yeah see

the problem is he got a million of those

like was a million problems here but he

got a million of those that the real

fame is all ish it's his famous like

your mommy or mujeeb sex me they all are

famous like that Paul

and but you know deeper than that it you

know it one thing that I did like the

way they you know they did the series or

the event was they they pointed to other

artists and you know who have been

linked to younger women with Jerry Lee

Lewis he he married his 13 year old

cousin yeah you know that's like

super-sick Chuck Berry sherry I was

Presley married a young woman yeah but

even further Mose I started thinking and

I know I have a lot of relatives like

from the South

where they were married at like 15 and

had a kid at 16 and yeah and it's like

you know I'm like damn like when you

really start to think about that and

unfold a lot of the past in history that

was a common thing absolutely for young

women to be married and have kids at a

very young and very early age by older

men it wasn't like the man was always 15

and 16 it was like the man might have

been 20 to 23 just came home from

serving you know an armed forces and I

said on his podcast

incest yeah yeah I'm a little thing it's

a very real thing and I'm not saying

that was right but it was part of the

time and it wasn't a predator thing mm I

don't think these men were preying on

those women well yeah in hindsight it

looks that way well you don't think who

was preying on him I think when men came

back from the war and this and that I

think they were products of their time

uh and again I get something I can't

prove but I think at that point I don't

think they were preying on young women

like oh she looks young I like her the

times were never right ever no

time for right ya know when I say it was

the times I'm not taking away like that

was correct obviously back then with

plenty of things everything was [ __ ]

up this going to be sick that was

probably one of the least things

we're gonna be able to go back millions

of years and there's always gonna be

sick individuals like this writing is

wrong forever there's gonna know matter

what generation is always gonna be right

and wrong there's no reason for an older

man to be laying down with a young girl

hello that's never excusable that's

never okay I don't

you say that

that's the trend now I just said it's

gonna we're gonna always look at any

generation in my confident that

docklands night saying ain't much change

this is nasty

you guys correct me if I'm wrong because

you guys were really outside in the 90s

when I remember when I was a preteen and

teenager in the early 2000s

the girls my age looked like teenagers

they dressed like teenagers they acted

like teenagers so when I was watching

that I was like all right our Kelly is

double sick because he was preying on

women that really looked like teenagers

he didn't get tricked by cuz her

homegirls a makeup artist and she has

fashion Nova on and she's lying about

her age on her Instagram I remember

being in the 90s and being in the early

2000s and the girls my age looking my

age and I don't correct me but maybe

when you guys were outside there was

women that weren't I say that all the

time when I was in high school girls

didn't look nothing look their age they

look like it was 14 years old yeah but

even when I was in high school there was

always girls that it was old two dudes

coming to pick them up what happened

that happened all the time like it was

always a duel with a car that was

picking a the cute girl from my school

let me just say cuz it we're responsible

podcast gentlemen out there it is it is

our job it is our job to know how old

she is absolutely that's a fair sure

that's okay that's Friday I know that

we're speaking on a time where you could

try to gauge by looking no no definitely

not now no now is the time that you

really need to find out how old she is

25 that was the sick of thing with the

r.kelly thing because he was actually

hanging out at a high school that's what

I'm saying and at that time the girls

teenagers but none of that matters he

was looking for the 14 he was 13 right

yeah 13 year olds right

yeah

the part that that the gut check for me

was

I'm watching it and I'm saying to myself

that's the music business

what do you mean mother

like even Sparkle introducing him to her

niece right

I've seen that that thinking I've seen

all of that everything that they was

talking about is common practice in the

music business Sparkle saying yo

everything I thought that everything he

was doing for me he would be able to do

for her not that that glimmer of hope

right there the the hope that's what

sold the most in the music business

that's what that's right that's what get

all all us to do some [ __ ] that maybe we

not agreeable with or yeah it's it's

that but I didn't I didn't find anything

wrong with sparkle introducing her knees

to our Kelly cuz if we told my or Kelly

I'm so I'm only talking about using song

no I'm only talking about the result I

don't know in the end the completely

nature and the complicit nature of the

music business our Kelly was a hit maker

early that was recognized early they he

was also a predator early that part was

ignored see that's the only part I I'm

not gonna say that that was a powerful

line when they said nobody cared cuz we

were all black girls and yet great line

but that's not only that's not the whole

truth mmm-hmm or Kelly made a lot of

people a lot of money

so we got to be careful to not make it

that's not totally a race thing while

that is valid of course it's always

valid he made a lot of people a lot of

money

period

period the music business we'll put it

put a ham put a clamper on things they

won't they won't talk about something

they'll [ __ ] they'll they'll uh sweep

it sweep it under the rug that's what I

mean when I say the nature of the music

business all of us got perfect vision

all of us got 20/20 vision in hindsight

yeah all that's great I saw some might

tweet yeah I was part of a radio team

that when all this all these allegations

came up I came and tried to get the

radio station that pull pull our Kelly's

music from the radio I got laughed out

the room

sounds like something that would happen

I'm in a spot if I tried to pull all our

Kelly music a bunch of artists stepped

up and said you do that we're pulling

ours

I'm saying when I say the music business

you

know that when we speak about the

culture of certain places like football

culture music business called there's

some sick sick demented twisted [ __ ] in

our culture that

that that that [ __ ] last night was just

holding a mirror up yeah to me and it

was reminding us of a lot of things that

we're so you know we we turned a blind

eye like so a lot of [ __ ] that we see

that we know was wrong um because like

you said the LEAs situation from then

we should have you know as a whole kind

of looked at our Kelly and said okay he

has a problem

and you know if we got on board with

that then a lot of these other things

may have been prevented a lot of these

other situation a lot of these other

women becoming victims may have been

prevented but because like you said it's

the music business he's a superstar and

he has money and he's making a lot of

money for labels and other people people

forget a lot and people move on and

people say oh yeah tell me that I went

straight to RCA's Twitter handle to

check their mention hmm wasn't that bad

mm-hmm wouldn't I bet my few [ __ ] in

here I

said a mile Kelly's on RCA still like

still he ain't selling it out the trunk

he is still supported and he gonna try

to sneak out he snuck out a little

[ __ ] a little jingle last week so I

born in my music no [ __ ] right and he

said world tour on the way this ain't

the time for born new your music you

[ __ ] sick oh [ __ ] it will [ __ ] what I

was born to I remember that [ __ ]

if that's your justification for this

madness but there's a certain arrogance

that he carries though you know me oh

yeah sure like a lot of this whole

entire thing comes from his predator

[ __ ] and then the other side being his

ego yeah well can't touch me oh you know

let me let me speak on that that for me

now let me walk you through my Vivian

green emotional roller coaster when I

when I tweeted my ill-timed life time is

messy tweet about their leader [ __ ] and

I woke up I woke up at 4 a.m. or

whatever time it was like 800 mentions

of people killing me let me just walk

you through my emotional roller coaster

my initial thought was to get defensive

because I'm a human because that's what

humans do it's like [ __ ] cancel

culture man cancel culture you got to be

you got to be really careful about this

[ __ ] because you don't allow people room

to grow or reform or you know I saw a

lot of people throwing around really

heavy heavy

allegations with no proof and I'm like

boy that is dangerous like y'all y'all

just throw the words around that was my

first first thought my second thought

after I was able to buffer some filter

some of that [ __ ] thank God for

emotional brain filters my second

thought was

good

good that canceled culture is is

extra extra cautious extra extra alert

and maybe extra sensitive to all of this

because for too long celebrities you

know we in a courtesy business

C&S to your point well I think that part

gets lost you're right that that smug

[ __ ] posh [ __ ] arrogance that that

you're speaking about off our Kelly I

think man only a lot of celebrities

forget we are in a courtesy

business

public service we're not much different

than waiters like it's public service a

lot of people that I know that send me

you know resumes and [ __ ] like that if

you've never worked in like a restaurant

I don't know if you're gonna make it in

this business

like it's kind of the same thing like

really you have to you're wrong the

entitled star always confuses me yeah

yeah like your waiter I'm glad that

canceled culture is is whatever the I'm

accusing them of being they need to be

because too many artists don't

acknowledge that we are in a courtesy

business and [ __ ] you can get cancelled

at any given time for any given thing

and you should always be aware of your

actions

because you're an entertainer right we

don't have to allow you to entertain to

entertain us I agree I just hope there's

evidence in the cancel culture that's

all I wouldn't care I don't care I don't

care because what I've noticed is that

only is a applicable to entertainers

that's fair cancel culture yep I used to

have a big beef with cancer culture

because like hey everybody relax me up

cancelling canceling people for mister

no no they get a lot of people just

fired on Twitter if someone says a bad

comment which I agree with go get fired

you gonna say some racy shortcut that's

where I say there's evidence you guys

somebody fired and canceling them I

think it's different well you're

canceling their career I heard her that

much traction from that Sabrina Claudio

girl since [ __ ] said she's cancelled

and I didn't even think that it was so

egregious whatever while he remember

what it was but I ain't heard much from

her because she's annotator and they

canceled her

house alien fire go get another job I'll

kill eatin able to navigate oh wait so

back to that yeah back to that so I'm a

narc RCA Twitter feed it was cool it

wasn't that bad so I left there and I

went to uh I went to I think was our

Kelly's feed but but deeper than that

Joe how is he still on RCA how does this

man still have a recording I want to his

mentions a

new world a lot of fans they're

like wow the movie was on I went to me

it's Mac that's just black aunties like

[ __ ] keep saying

it was men black men white men white

women black women while the ship was

airing there was a mission yo can't wait

to see you

RCA was tweeting about Chris Brown

why did ship was going on and that's

what I'm saying and ain't no and that's

why he can walk with this arrogance

because he feels like

yeah I'd know about me for 30 years well

I don't know if you guys saw in the

documentary at the beginning when they

started with that Facebook live [ __ ]

when he was like you know there's 30

million people that hate me but there's

1 billion people that love me they

should have done this [ __ ] 30 years ago

like that was the arrogance that he

lives every day with like yeah all right

there's a lot of people that hate me and

call me a pedophile but there's plenty

if I'm still packing out these arenas

[ __ ] out of here yeah

it's saying you know you should have

done this 30 years ago the most arrogant

[ __ ] I've ever heard in my life I

wouldn't look up his tourist are you

still doing 50 dates a year big he

announces his touring he's about to he's

announced the tour all of his music has

seen a spike I was just saying this is

aired today there's a salad are telling

me so when I tell you that you know I'm

watching this [ __ ] like damn this is the

music business no deeper than that Joe

this is the world we live in it's sick

yeah it's [ __ ] yes the balls point

out it's not just music man this sick

[ __ ] happens in every single industry

and it's just fine because these people

are making other people money okay

people can are outraged for a week

and it's getting it's getting shorter

than that at this point and then after

that it's kind of like you don't talk

about it move on we'll look up as we're

doing here we're having this whole you

know segment on this and in too much

time let's just let's just take a peek

back and see what our Kelly is doing in

two months for now and see who's still

at his shows hey [ __ ] his shows [ __ ] the

music [ __ ] the money let's see if our

Kelly is arrested [ __ ] oh that he won't

be of course my man and horse have a lot

I have a lot of questions about that

like there's a lot of I was watching it

and I have [ __ ] canceled come here

why are you not in handcuffs where were

the parents you know I mean like where

were they char any charges president

woman like seek the press event every

story that they were telling on that and

on that biopic we've heard recently with

new new participants yeah it was just

that like maybe a year or two ago that

whole essay about damn near called

survival our Kelly it was the same it

was the same exact thing home girl from

Atlanta could be miss Bonilla home girl

from wherever she was from family family

you remember

exact thing why is his why's his ex-wife

still carrying his name I had that

question - I did - I asked that like Sam

said and I said maybe it's me it's hard

for me to look at a woman that's crying

and invisibly you know she's been

through a lot and you know is but it's

like I'm saying this is a man that

absolutely destroyed you and put you

through some terrible things and all of

this once you divorce him I would think

you would want to get everything that

has to do with him completely removed

from your life so his last name should

definitely be something that you have

removed like you don't even want to be

associated with his name anymore well as

much as you can while I agree I've never

been anywhere near those shoes right I

don't know what the I don't know what

the thinking is I don't know what it

would be I can't pretend to know there's

a lot of bikes in had the same question

yeah I don't

why is she still carrying his last name

well I mean she also mentioned I think

when dream asked her just about some

stuff that it happened she was like

there's plenty of things I can't even

speak about so I don't even think she's

kind of want to say the word digests it

or even really I threw everything cuz

she said in that documentary there's

plenty of things I can't even talk about

yet right so maybe holding on to painful

and too dark and I can only imagine what

what that means

listening listening there and and

looking at her the brothers looked sick

yeah especially I mean the older brother

for sure I mean when he said my

preference is older woman so what's the

issue of my brother's his younger women

I was about done with Bruce to that one

yeah he ca said that's his preference

yeah everybody has a preference

that's that was that was eerily yeah

that was eerily Creepers doesn't work

there yeah because if you want to go

further with

illegal things is that your preference

most most of the brothers state the

older brother statements from jail were

loaded that way to me they were

trying to protect his brother at the

same time he was trying not to come

across like he didn't get he in jail for

protecting his brother didn't you take

the rap for the video I could be wrong

about that I don't know no no no I saw a

savant to check anything well I saw a

credible link

that was like from the state of Illinois

it was a robbery and substance okay that

he had I think he's doing three or four

years I think that he but blamed the

Brotherhood well I remember when our

Kelly was saying you know that was my

brother on that tape I remember when

that was happening right I don't know if

he actually took the rap but know there

was a credible link saying it was a

robbery and substance abuse and they all

just kept talking about the family

member that that did the abuse but we

don't know who the family member is was

the older sister from what I gathered

reading elsewhere after the documentary

was over okay the younger brother spoke

out before he did that documentary last

year on BBC and spoke out about a lot of

[ __ ] he's been vocal yeah yes I didn't

see that but I know he's been vocal you

should watch that too it's good it was a

good documentary it's kind of a

precursor to this whole thing

yeah well sorry older brother you know

you're gross

everyone's nice they own it they got to

put they got to put our Kelly under the

jail he's uh he's a detriment to himself

in society

while I do believe he's sick a

sonic so when when

victimizes people exactly you have to

pay you have to you you have to go yeah

I believe you will and that's where me

Amol disagree I believe that he will he

will eventually hit that jail when they

want you to get you I mean I and you

know I again you're right in that but

he's done so much over the years and so

much has come forth and there's little

that's why this video evidence yeah just

a little to know as less as sick as this

is gonna sound and this is gonna sound

sick unfortunately today that movie last

night I

could see it having a more effect than

any any news that has been revealed to

us thus far that's the time we're in

like the kids respect

like they didn't know I see what it

didn't know so just hang on I get better

for though there's a lot of information

people gathered last night yeah I

understand that but we had video

evidence of him

urinating on an underage girl on video

years ago

and nothing happened like what else

needs to happen we don't have no video

evidence of and not to compare it's

actually kind of proven my point we

video evidence was there all those years

ago and it was the highest selling

bootleg in bootleg history industries at

that time yeah because it was argue it

was our County anything that's attached

his name but my thing is still no jail

Tom came from that like there's video

evidence and no jail time came from that

I

mean I'm it's just I don't I don't know

that gets us into the legal proceedings

and then the way that the law works and

how does the law hang things of that

nature I don't remember I think at the

time the young lady's age was being

called into question

so they can they never found out I mean

I'm not sure that's why I'm very anxious

to see the next few parts because it's

all fuzzy to me

like I remember but I don't remember so

I'd like to see it I'd like to see it

and again we're we're we're doing it

we're doing this uh this breakdown

before seeing parts three and four I

didn't think that we needed to see those

to have yeah I didn't think we needed to

see those to have this conversation we

know we know how it ends

we know I didn't just all disturbing I

will be looking I will be looking

forward to the next few segments

prayers to to all of all of the victims

all our Kelly victims the ones that have

come forward the ones that are

walking around with this weight is

weight on them and all sexual assault

victims

1,000% yeah I didn't appreciate that

when they did commercial breaks that

they focused on that as well yeah that

this was definitely there's a purpose

for why we're doing this it's not just

our Kelly exactly and you know you're

not again because we have such a

responsibility with our platform I don't

want people to listen to this and not

understand that we all feel like

our Kelly you know he should be put

under this underneath the JSONP canceled

what he did was absolutely disgusting

don't go in stream his music just to

hear the lyrics and you know don't do it

and prayers to the to the victims

because most importantly that's a you

know they have to live with this so we

can feel however we feel but we always

have to remember to the women that went

through this and that have to live with

this so definitely prayers Denise and

their families that was the extra layer

for me as well just thinking about that

weight and that angst that

that these victims have to walk around

with um the same way you know same way

only I talk a lot about that that added

weight that that black men walk around

with that

that that pit that aren't that movie

made me think about that extra weight

that the women are walking around with

and I mean you could see it even in them

speaking there was a lot of things that

I'm sure that they didn't want to go

into detail about that they had to go

through I was allotted they didn't

detail yeah I mean you could tell it was

just funning worst worst stuff yeah

there's some things that they just

weren't comfortable with putting out

there like that it was so many gut

checks for me watching it you when

shorty said when when when shorty said

you know when she was telling a story

about she thought she was the main and

and they came back from the awards and

he had he had a little chick in there

and she thought they were just gonna get

in to get in the date [ __ ] real quick

and then she found out made threesome

net no she was the newbie

she was the one that wasn't used to

believe that to find something like that

out made not only ransom to find out

that she was 14 years old well she found

that out later

that's why that didn't hit me bit but in

the moment it was sick enough as it was

but that's super sick like what do you

you're you're bringing me into yours it

was a whole lot of sick [ __ ] left do you

ever did you ever stop you ever talk to

women that have been involved in the

threesome with two women and a guy -

threesome that didn't go well there's so

many ways for that to go wrong so just

hearing that story yeah like it's

already so many ways for this [ __ ] to go

wrong be awkward be uncomfortable for

people to leave with all type of

psychological issues and that you just

add this yeah just sick sick

sickness sickness sickness sickness

nasty nasty on I'm gonna watch the rest

man again salute to dream Hampton and

more more will be revealed how do you

guys feel about the people with a report

that a few people turned down being in

the documentary I mean you can

understand that like people have you

know people women are older now they

have kids they probably have kids that

are of age they don't want their kids to

hear somebody these testimonies and

things that their mother went through

even that there's other celebrity what

yeah I was more speaking I believe it

was Chappell Erykah Badu

but which I was questlove's rant was

they asked me to speak because we're

really bad at sharing what we're talking

about here the UH getting to it they

said Questlove said they asked him to

speak on the time's part of the are

Kelly [ __ ] and he didn't want to be the

guy that was big in his genius up on the

good times part knowing he's a sick

lunatic [ __ ] those weren't his words but

those were his words that was the

sentiment I totally understood it which

dream Hampton did reply and said I

didn't ask you to talk about his genius

but then again I really started think

about it and that's take anything away

from dream Hampton what else could hold

by Duke West look like what else could

they talk about besides wasn't one of

them talked about that's what John

Legend was up here talking about yeah

well it looked like the preview in these

next episodes John Legend's not gonna

speak to that

yeah but I'm saying I read the questlove

good time [ __ ] and then I saw John

Legend in the good times part but he

didn't come off it didn't come off like

it wasn't framed no hey this guy's a

genius would be good it was framed like

you know we all grew up in a lot of

songs that yeah that's what it was frame

like but I'm not knocking anybody foot

you know it's a mess

yeah I think all those people think our

Kelly is a sick [ __ ] people don't know

people don't run right to a mess people

like to look at a mess they don't like

to be involved or attach their name

especially people that are worth a

billion dollars a few million dollars

you tell my whole erykah badu you tell

the people that have worked with this

gentleman you talk about people that

have some [ __ ] in the vaults in their

dealings with this guy as well like I'm

like come on like but even that Mord

just music like this doc is not about

are Kelly's music it's about his nasty

[ __ ] ways

yeah I think the focal point is the

people that were abused by this sick

[ __ ]

you abusing [ __ ] with the Space Jam

poster up in the gym yeah crazy I

found a lot sick wait like I was paying

attention a lot of detail we walked in

and it's the Space Jam [ __ ] all over the

gym and he pulled the futon out

yuck

yeah

I mean like we said he's he's sick he's

mentally he's sick the you are not alone

story

he's creating from a sick from a sick

mind you are not alone I am here with

you though you're far away

hmm yuck and I listen to none of that

[ __ ] out of here even I [ __ ] separate

the man from the music [ __ ] I can't do

that I'm sorry so now Rico love tweeted

I'm a-saying and Rico love is somebody I

[ __ ] I really like [ __ ] I really

really like Rico and that's why I hate

when these types of moments come up

where I see things from people I really

like that make me like them a little

less mmm Rico love tweeted where's the

tweet let me find it here it is there's

nothing you can do to make me unlike

12-play TP to the R or Chocolate Factory

sorry my ears like what they like shrug

emoji yuck but see that's coming from

see and I always say you know when men

say [ __ ] like that let it be your

daughter and let me see how you feel

about kill your cousin or your frail a

let it be one of your loved ones that

was a victim of

child molestation or just be a human it

let it be anybody yeah or that try that

for a second but it's like you know like

this you can absolutely [ __ ] separate

the man from the music you can

absolutely do that I don't like the man

I don't like the music I'm okay with

that there's mad good music out there

there's mad geniuses well my bad you

know why is it a music you like what you

like it's objective a oh that's fine

communications people communication

majors will tell you that the key to the

key to great communication is not what

you're saying is just how you get the

other person to understand what you're

saying whatever your point is right cuz

so

that's awesome awesome Rico love that

you still like these homes I saw online

of people doing that which always you

talking about I saw a lot of people

doing hey hey all of you guys out there

you guys are great those songs are great

thank you for the [ __ ] obvious then

those are great songs let me tell you

what you are telling people though when

you say that because at the top of our

minds is not great music right the top

the top of this conversation is

nastiness sickness predatory behavior

abusive pedophilia that that's what this

conversation is about correct so I'm

judging all of the minds that take that

conversation and make it a music one yes

that point we would all agree that our

Kelley is probably one of the more

sexual R&B artists ever yeah so when

you're getting invested into these quote

amazing songs about sexual content

that's about I don't know if I have to

say anything else yeah but that's a big

problem other that's what that see Widow

Rico love that's a dangerous thing that

he's doing because you're basically

saying yo if you're incredibly talented

do what you want your music business

culture yeah it's dangerous you can't go

against it out there in the universe man

funny thing about these [ __ ] Hitler

painted pictures man this is not looking

no [ __ ] Hitler pictures hmm

I'm only playing this cuz like [ __ ]

say [ __ ] and I can find I could probably

find a song that contradicts whatever

the [ __ ] they're saying absolutely what

the [ __ ] what is legal of tone you can't

make this song and say that

bring it back I was talking

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hmm

I'm lost yeah

the second you say daughter I'm lost

let's see but that goes I am a lot what

the what they're losing me Rico call hey

Rico you monk you my guy so I'm

challenging that tweet I don't want to

offend you I'm doing that in 2019 I'm

humbly challenging people that I love

and care about when I feel like they say

something that I deem to be a little off

Rico love I am humbly challenging you

with with this what is it I'm in keep

playing this

you can't make this song and say but but

see that's what I was saying about our

Kelly being able to make songs like I

believe I can fly and all these

beautiful songs and then being this sick

dude away from his music like Rico love

can come out and tweet his support of

our Kelly's music like there's nothing

y'all could tell him you say whatever

that's gonna make me not like these

things but then he can make music like

this that's like

directly contradicts what he's tweeting

I hugged my son all night long and all

morning long and was just thanking God

that I was in I was in a healthy and

able state to be there for him to be in

his life when all that you know I've

started thinking about our Kelly's

catalog how sick he is with the song

titled the fact the father wasn't there

the family abused two brothers are sick

all that [ __ ] and I just thank God for

all the men that are there for their

kids today I

know that sounds like a real small thing

but in the eighties that wasn't the

narrative the narrative was the father's

is out so I'm just I know this may seem

unrelated I was just really happy I was

just really happy that my [ __ ] son

was next to me as I was watching this

sick nasty [ __ ] on TV uh

y'all talking Iman gap BAM I was about

to say I need some outstanding

I

feel a little bit better I mean thank

God uncle Charlie it's not to our Kelly

remix thank God and while I'm on that

while I'm on it I

mind we'll share some of these genius

ideas man I don't know what you artists

are doing out there but as I'm watching

that biopic last night if I was still

writing I would say wow man let me get

to work yeah that's a whole [ __ ]

genius catalog that just opened up it's

got nine hundred songs to remix tory

lanez what the hell are you doing

get your ass in there and give us chicks

tape six seven and eight

you got mad are Kelly songs we never

ever again somebody's got to flip the

words around we still need it seems like

you're ready just from adults about

adults that's I would just leave what I

should alone anything it's gonna give

him some bread yeah I would leave every

r.kelly thing the [ __ ] alone he just

seems like you're ready yes everything

but toys to race it just erase it every

little melody every note anything Robert

Kelley

gets cool man we don't need that [ __ ] I

think I'm gonna take this I'm gonna race

it on my toes to god sue yeah I can't

step in the name of love too discreet

yeah see that's what really make himself

I mean it's all sick but when you really

get into the psychology here man is sick

[ __ ] all of gospel songs he made yuck

happy people yuck that's gross come on

Charlie scream real quick man

no no it's nasty we've never let this

rock this long to come back

let me get a bridge Charlie

[Music]

it's still Saturday [ __ ] I'm lettuce

wrap

[Music]

our team

[Music]

oh

alright I feel much older way better uh

alright I feel a little better I hope

we've responsibly can't tackled that our

Kelly topic people wanted joke

sorry what wanted jokes I was lying

before my mentions like y'all can't wait

to hear the jokes of the bucket

there's nothing to joke about sorry yes

are a lot of people trying to give him

the nasty award and we joke about the

nasty word that's not a joke that's not

a nasty award no all right so when y'all

want to talk about pushers here

[Laughter]

Detroit I

thought Joe is maybe like

250,000 dollars away from getting that

haircut with the hat on top of it

the guy that y'all think I am is crazy

top of the bullet hit another quarter

I'm a quarter million

about the house yet I don't go with the

frocks

not the cool but why us you giving them

all that I'm hoping it's a movie

this business I'm home only in this

business can that be the reply to

anything that you say

movie look sick like that hope is a

movie I hope so I hope that is not a

true

video

you got it bad

[Laughter]

now I was in a movie right now

Teresa moves on my day old movie what

was it uh light it up

in my damn did I just get that movie

name right on the first it was lighted

up seen as you're seven times the movie

you laid it up I liked it when I saw it

today I mean a lot of moves between Oh

nowadays according to Wikipedia which is

always facts he'll be an incredible to

already did that happen was he an

incredible to these [ __ ] got to stop

telling me today gon be in the movie

when I

want to see you in the movie he was in

scary movie 5 I

stopped watching after two days I've

never seen a screening in 2001 he was in

Texas Rangers

was also in the Justin Bieber movie

he was just in the

sugar

what stars you got we spoke about that

on the podcast whenever we was coming up

there's a dispute files

there should be a cigarette Leonard well

why would I watch her play him that's

that's a guess America can we get back

to talking about the important stuff

like oh she's here I said I'm hoping it

was for a movie because he was dressed

like he had to hold the whole suit [ __ ]

so I'm hoping it was a movie I'm hoping

he's playing from the looks of it yeah

one of the temptations a psycho not a

hater from the looks of it like Richard

yeah look of it that's how very most

that play check where it looked like

yeah and look like he was in a Little

Richard it could have been well let me

know see that could have been anybody

from the sixties leave that playing like

it don't matter just let me know what

movie it is so I could stay on

watch what hands of stone Sugar Ray

Leonard I can't go out yet

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to see some killer [ __ ] turn around

bowling ball and Biggs is on lines on

you let me get to the hands of stalls

Rockefellers not never look a

rusher Raymond

got some weird-ass starts on the 642

the movie you want to see my

buddy let us know what you want to start

it by the way

yo you ready now yeah we just started

now started whatever

what else happened that was funny

nothing that's not true that's not true

that was funny oh so y'all didn't see uh

Nick Cannon stuff still on Fox I don't

even know name with the mask Oh

guess the dancer

masked singing dancing wait so the

dancer was this way with the

neighborhood Nassau I think what it is

is real celebrities they dad off that

our singing but they have on a whole

like mascot costume type of things so

you have to be able to tell who it is

just from hearing the voice they're not

singing their song

you're funny sometimes

but listen did anybody see the show not

in CC yes why nobody laughing we can't

joke on the Canon anymore these shows

work for some reason no good Levitt he's

gonna make a ton of money off this [ __ ]

sure it's a great idea I don't know if

I'm gonna watch but it is a great idea

when you say mascot like a mask no a

fool there in Eiffel mascot system when

you say drape all that exactly needs a

great what was a great idea no I mean to

have if you like if you have it come up

with a game show or you didn't see the

show right no I'm just saying but if you

come if you call what idea let's have

some of the biggest stars in the world

come out and sing but weird costume we

have to guess who it is underneath the

costume that's not a bad idea for show