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gentlemen feel good man good good good real good very good it's a lot of goods yeah good

oh you got had an eventful weekend I'm not really sure I'm just good as far as

you know [ __ ] there's going oh man I'm just trying to stay away from all of that so I'm good with them you came to

the wrong Park for sure but that's why I had to kind of stay away from national

and let me just say uh oh man oh this is always serious podcast yeah I leave for

a little while I don't want to start the year this series well like two in a row on a series like gee there's one can we

be immature okay yeah it was over we have a responsibility that's trash I

don't want to have a responsibility [ __ ] end immaturity

that's all right that's definitely not right um shout out to shout out to our

Spotify listenership our youtube view [ __ ] I want to shout out to our mature

and immature audiences I want to shout out to the college kids shout out to the

employed and unemployed people shout out to the stay-at-home mom and dads shout

out to uh this is a new one the gamer community has chimed in and said hey man

listen are you leaving us out man Wow so they got money over their game and

[ __ ] games ain't cheap no no the gamer community has money I just have never been smart enough to know how to tap

into it while looking genuine because I don't think things get a game we got a I don't play games and I don't

encourage my son who's trying to make music to play games if you're trying to play me if you're trying to make music that's fair so well a lot of songs which

I've heard are now breaking on like video games like those twitch it's like that's getting mad views on DSPs now if

you break a song on or you let you left Sony leave your Sony slang at home buddy

just try to let you guys know where they're breaking music now in the game world why is not a strip club anymore no

no it's on the video game world like I was ever playing call of duty that [ __ ] that really gets you going which is a

k47 that's what's getting played on Spotify mmm interesting both I never Ori

trying to be smart this blog you gotta scholars call us a good caller is Sam

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give us the Rastafarian party really

good [Laughter] that's the sir will you kill them in but

like casually Mike I'm fly on the pocket

that's a good conference meet in after work boss special type of shirt that's me you can go anywhere with that I get

in anywhere right now yeah you look nice man thanks done on this one day and say I'm

the best-dressed out of everyone here

what a stylist that's the a I just want to point out

that that is new-age hating that is the New Age version of no I'm just hating

like [ __ ] your new age that's all I'm just right I'm hating oh that's old school that's the New Age version of

when the chick used to compliment your man when your man bar just [ __ ] shirts

which I disagree with you what I do put that [ __ ] J you can't let your man hos

sambar some and then put it on blast in front of the chicks that's correct

what I'm saying is young men need to be taught that what what that not to do

that oh yeah I agree wait I'm not mad at somebody tries it once when I was 14 15

when it was young and I'm like you need I don't know what that a you need to be taught against yeah doing that because

maybe that's instinctive [ __ ] say men

was a story with a car you know about telefon your pocket how

did bring it up my Escalade yeah nasty ass [ __ ] was done to our it wasn't even

a stunt no no if I did that I certainly didn't mean to because I did that one

time when I was very very very young and I might be that the deal still [ __ ]

you up off the end and I learned against it and I never did that again I never do that again that's nasty yeah

that's nasty yes 101 [ __ ] and [ __ ] stop let me let me come clean

it's gonna be the podcaster coming clean and they just stopped lending me their clothes because I wouldn't give them

back yeah you gotta recognize that for any medium oh I had the butters yeah that

was a slang when I was stealing the clothes but it's a butter Tim the butter Hilfiger jacket from yellow one the red

one the blue one that was fresh broke before and a bum and on dust and a Rob

you at least you were from Robbie take

you boys off number one number two learn about your life nothing else but way one

day one day if we kick mall out the group chat he was gone for a while wait and wait you know you kick somebody out

of the group chat and you think that it's gonna be like effective somehow he just left

I'm talking us call us for like five years hey wait a second now that was a

momentary thing come back to the group chat they could denied our lawyer invite the group chair should support a Samsung

instead the group chat ship is only fun for me when it's some really funny [ __ ]

happen it like other than that it's like I don't want to be in here talking like he's got a muted group chat is the key

well yeah well all group chats are muted our group jag are calling for like a year did it yeah and then one of mine is

it's still part of that year was bonding with la we got back pop I'm Sookie right

now um and nobody cares about it but one day but one day we should have a group

chat conversation because there is group chat absolutely this phone etiquette

period that's true don't call me I'm with parks don't call me don't ever

FaceTime little pizza you know what over the weekend I said I missed that though I miss my phone right I miss people calling each other my my phone it's I

guess I play that game I try to guess who's calling me when my phone is vibrating my locket only for people it's

my mom it's my dad it's in its tray yeah nobody else calls my phone but

telemarketers yeah p.m. they have you they have you a phone number honey doing all types a little weird tricks they even improve on

call me from parks number now they do that they got tricks they do that yeah call you from your grandma's number or

they'll call you like one digit of your number yeah net a few times yeah it looks familiar so you want to hook it up so yeah I'm calling myself

let me answer yeah although I will say I think FaceTime is becoming like the new regular phone conversation know like

people FaceTime a lot now I hate I recently saw audio if you're gonna call

me pitched up I recently learned people people voice note a lot more than I thought this voice notes on Instagram

I'm a degenerate I didn't know I don't want to know all the capabilities of certain social medias listen you voice

know people that just do that in the middle of a text combo not knowing where the [ __ ] I am I can't stand that [ __ ]

like it we're texting back and forth you send me a voice know it I could be somewhere yeah I'm amazed every time parks puts a little cartoon arrow on

into the snap I don't know how to do anything I don't know how to put that

swap up [ __ ] I put up the picture the little chain I'll give you a little text I swipe oh yeah sometimes I freak it

with some fade my [ __ ] [ __ ] it off

freakin with some fade what are you freaking the post we would start the

podcast you don't even know what the [ __ ] happened I don't that's because

people are just now going to work then yeah people are just now getting to work I was talking about there's no traffic

out in the streets for the past few days I'm just now learning what day it is which podcast this is been out of it a

little bit but I think that's normal every January for sure hmm we got like

way definitely if I definitely forgot Sunday was Sunday yeah I thought sunday was some Monday and anytime the football

playoff started did you throws my yeah I don't know I don't know what today is yeah yeah I guess this is the official

week that people are back cuz last week was kind of weird some people were going in super beast work mode and I wasn't sure if I should be replying to emails

or not and then there was some people that was like Dawg don't even talk to me so the 15th right now I knew something

was up when I got I got a call from Spotify revolt love and hip hop the same day of alright everyone's back and

requesting a schedule ok so what's what's going on let's talk the podcast

went out on a quick field trip after Friday's episode oh yeah how was your little your little party I went to an RB

parties three of us what well more more than mixi boys Joe stayed from maybe two

to three minutes well cuz I got out of there pretty quick but it was all arm being me and while we're talking about

the songs now that you can't listen to or play most of them for example he was

in there they was playing Joe L Santana Chris Brown back to the crib and me and more when looking a child

like all right so why doesn't she know she's going back to the crib Chris yeah that would work

she don't know but she's going back to the crib how convenient is Gino how

convenient is fun we go yeah how many drinks came on creepy hours and we were

next to a bar I was a tractable that record I'm surprised they tried to get

the Christmas song out of here this year - which one was it uh cold outside oh it's cold outside is an old trick that

shouldn't be used anymore it's cold out

just like Freddy rosie fools you with this happy music first the hi-hats to

get you in a feel-good zone little shuffle just like predators [ __ ] do you

have your shots do you want to come back to America

Miguel came on the trip how many drinks will it take for you to come home why are you so frustrated that

she's sober people do get mad if you'd

like drunk and somebody sober around you know like people hate that I don't drink anymore that's like a the sober one with

everybody else's drunk who wants to do their vices alone that's

true very true cuz then you start feeling let is drinking really a vice not like a alcoholic well me yeah it's a

vice like if you just have a drink after work is that like a cannon can be a vice if you want to do your vices alone all the

time there's a mental health thing yeah

oh you just don't like people around you when you're doing your faces that's

weird never though no you don't know nice that that would not be approved of by your friends that's true therefore

that might be a problem that's depending on your circle I'm gonna do some I never do the star with the Golden Globes

you stop there twenty minutes in it off to a good start for this episode so the

Golden Globes what happened you want to go right in a rip with arc with the Kellogg in the quell around all weekend

I won't say I will say hi let's do it [ __ ] it it's amazing it's amazing how

many it's the main conversations that docu-series has has birth honestly how

many what how many conversations oh that that docu-series has has birth I guess

like I mean I knew it was gonna be obviously like some reaction and some

things that come from it but I'm not gonna lie man I was sitting back looking at some [ __ ] on social media like whoa

like I forgot a lot of this [ __ ] ever ever happened I forgot a lot of this [ __ ] never really like took place yeah

but people was bringing up [ __ ] and it's like like I just found out from as a

result that that little Kim was only 16 in that picture huh a conic picture

really yeah I didn't know that I never knew that yeah I never knew she was 16

or 17 S on that I never knew that like that [ __ ] me up I'm not gonna lie because I remember being young and

seeing that picture and thinking that was a grown woman we were probably younger than 16 it's damn yes I'm saying

it I was young but when I saw that picture I was definitely so lucky there's not something joke you know I

don't sound like the Cookie Monster you know they've never changed on Kidsongs

like the other day like I was watching cartoons it was mm-hmm stole the cookie

from the cookie jar who me yes you couldn't be that like fam 40 years classic who is the publishing

rich but they are rich is what they are no random might do walking down the

streets of Manhattan that you will know well it's in series publishing for that for sure of course there is ma'am we've wrapped

we've stuck on the wrong [ __ ] that guy that guy's the winner hit songs is definitely hella good market to get into

mm-hmm dan that's a body damn I never even thought of that

actually I did but just in a different capacity I'm waiting for the market to catch up in podcast publishing become a thing

yeah go yeah oh man all right so uh come

on more you will make you will making good points and I cut you off with your do pooty only no I was a saying that um yeah there was so many things that came

from that docu-series you know that started to you know come back to the

forefront of conversations on social media that I really either forgot about

or didn't know and like I was saying I didn't know little Kim was that young in that picture like I never knew that but

learning that said what to you what did it do for your free line it said that in

or you thinking it said that I mean it well it let me know in our culture of hip-hop um that we've kind of been we've

kind of been you know behind the ball with this whole you know not being old

enough versus is she old enough to date older men dating younger women like

we've kind of it's been in our face for me I was going to say the entire time

that is one way to word it but it's been in our face other way to word it it sounds like you're saying we've been

programmed in conditioned absolutely to be accepted accepted oh so we're now

desensitized and numb in areas that we shouldn't and we're old the hip-hop is

what thirty what now 30 30 1978 yeah

also 40 okay so well do the coaches older some reports say 73 yeah yeah but we're

older and so now you look back at things you like damn like you know me like it's

a lot of [ __ ] that I was reading through and looking at and I'm like family should have really been right in front

of our eyes this entire time whether we've been ignorant to it and just not giving a [ __ ] about it whether times

have changed and everything is you know the world is different now and how we operate in how we think is totally different now that has something to do

does anyone have an issue with the music industry conditioning

conditioning the masses to accept certain things certain things yes I do

agree with you more just because that's what's been in front of our faces more than anything else but I just I think it's a world problem - a world problem

hip hop I just think that's what's been in front of our face and that's what we've been participating in and condoning and even promoting no it's

definitely world problem but this is the culture I was ready that's what I'm saying I think we're saying the same thing I mean so it's like something we've actually been a part of where we are to

blame to some degree as well right because we've always thought that yeah thought foxy on the reasonable doubt at

fifteen was perfectly fine right while saying those things I guess that's kind of what I was trying to tell Mall last

week when I was like when I was like I I like that where that we're overly

sensitive today because whatever what it's what generation is this Z Y I think

it's Z I don't know I like that generation Z is coming out with with all of this Intel saying hey man what y'all

was doing like I like that they're coming out and holding past generations

accountable for [ __ ] that we maybe were blind to or turned a blind or turned a

blind eye - mm-hmm but they're telling that to older us right so yeah we're looking back and

we're saying you'd be shocked at the amount of people I heard say the same thing you just said more how it was common practice for the older person to

drive by the high school yeah to go by the high school why even yeah we're 10

years apart regular young young people remember in high school I'm not I'm not uh I'm not exonerating that behavior but

I'm acknowledging I'm acknowledging it sick but that was going on seeing that's

where the conversation normally gets a little fuzzy because if you start having these talks I would my mind says

eventually we would venture off into college culture - yeah for certain yeah

I don't see that sold so much and and this conversation is not about that this

podcast is more so going to be about the rabbit-hole that mine has been on since this r.kelly doc and I'll be honest with you guys it has

been it has been good I've paid attention to things that I've never paid

attention to and I think that's why some of these Doc's are really good when when done well it just adds perspective and

gets you to see things in a new light like like song structure now more than

ever I paid more attention to like I really want to tip my hat to dream Hampton and everybody involved in it in

their documentary I do for sure they did a really good job without

offending anyone I would say up until part six when it was the the 35 year old

fan that confused a few people but I understand why y'all had her there y'all

was saying that he's not just targeting young people he's targeting he's

targeting older people people of a certain mindset people that can be had he started I didn't understood she just

came off a little funny um but outside of that amazing job song structure now I'm look I'm listening and all these are

kelly songs I'm extremely familiar with but the song structure and even take bump and grind a lot of our Kelly songs now I'm

noticing and I guess there is some genius in it but he says the the the

blatantly he says the catch you line and it catches you but it's the next two or

four bars that say something sick that says something sick I have went back and

noticed that in in maybe half of his discography I never noticed that before

even in the name of song and I'm gonna find it bump bump bump and grind I went

to I went to bumper grinders because that's the biggest one to me but oh yeah that's my point my mind's telling me no

but my body my body is telling me yes I don't want to hurt no that's great that's that's so genius that you are had

already you're done you're you are hypnotized hmm yeah that next four

is nuts yeah yeah it's all nuts now but

I mean even in creative land back then forget that now we have all this information right what does it mean like

when you just don't asking people what dude certainly ryx mean like i don't want to hurt anybody what do they mean what does that mean

come on coming off of what's your mind and your body is telling you to do it is a lay he has a lot of those and even

when I went to the other songs I started saying Ron I usually songs that are Kelly wrote hmm oh damn he did it to Ron

[ __ ] I'm [ __ ] me Ron sound nuts keep watering it down low you [ __ ] freak

bastard what are you talking about we're talking about that old series everything

he did like I never just never paid attention to some of that stuff I've been on a hunt for information like and

a lot is disturbing like there's a lot to unpacking this [ __ ] a lot a lot is

disturbing spark will put us put a record out she do sparkle and sparkle

was promoting a single recently in the

height of all in the height of everything then the ex-wife's old

footage popped up yeah where she was reppin that confused some people um and

then something else came out with her saying she's still able to separate the

act the the artists from the person that's why I said that yeah yeah I have

a clue how good of a provider he was you

know was definitely leaning on the side of he's not that bad of a guy but this was old footage correct some of it was

old some of it was relatively recent I mean that's I think part of the whole mind control thing that a la her still

carrying his last name through everything was a red flag to me to begin with but shouldn't be shouldn't be

because there are reasons people do that some people do it for the kids you know

Tina Turner did it did it and she was being abused like no it's it's it had black patina

Turner was a was a as a legend like was the iconic figure that was her stage

name doesn't change my statement she was abused by someone and she moved on she kept the name I did I get that point but

what I'm saying is she kept the name because that was the name that she built her career and her legacy on part that's

that stuff your career in your life killing his wife it's really a legacy is not really important to me when it when

we talk about you be interview no but it wasn't it wasn't but it was important to Tina Turner to her brand and while saying that are Kelly's ex-wife doesn't

no disrespect her but she's not a world figure you know saying like she's I'm

just saying like her changing her last name I don't think anybody would have been like damn like you should have kept that last name because now you your

brand and everything is messed up like I don't I just don't I don't see that Tina

Turner's a hole because people had said that to me too and I'm like but Tina Turner is Tina Turner yeah you know

saying like she's who she is she's a world-class performers icon legend you

know are Kelly's ex-wife she said she's a dancer but I don't know she was has she built a iconic dance career off of

the last name Kelly I don't think so I'm certain that there's some perks that come with every last name Kelly so I

would assume other thing I'm not saying that's why she did not say but if so do

the perks outweigh the you know the trauma and everything that you went through so you're gonna keep that I just

don't it's a lot of things around that whole situation that you know it's it's just questions that naturally because I

think that's what a docu-series does it it gets conversations going it it creates questions it cookies thoughts

and so I think it worked you know I think the what they what the producers wanted to come from the show I think it

absolutely worked because I mean again like the entire seems like the entire online community is still talking about

just docu-series yeah that's important so conversation is important one of the

one of the things I saw people saying was you know I saw Jada Pinkett

speak out and say she asked for someone explain to her how his dreams could possibly go up at a time like this hmm

I saw some other people confused by that pardon me for being confused by the

confusion by that but I am the songs are

good song sonically and a docu-series just told us that there have been clues

that we ignored for years and years and years so people are naturally that's

just a natural thought to look for it to do he's put together the puzzle you have also just introduced this this genius

catalog of music to a brand-new audience it doesn't matter how it was introduced but certainly they're going to find out

about what you say yeah the street the streams aren't increasing ah

I saw another report and we had talked about a lot of stuff I saw another report that said our Kelly is worth 1

million dollars today I don't know how accurate that is um and I don't I don't

you know and again I don't care about what somebody's worth and you know all these I do I don't I don't give a [ __ ] I

do but but let me explain why before I forget I do money power and respect it

have it has you greeted and handled differently in this country now that

I've seen this docu-series if they take if they take I do believe they're gonna

come for Kelly I'm gonna take them down it's mad other people who got to go down with him it's not a one-man operation

this is a ring like let's call it what it is this is a complicated intricate

ring that could not be conducted by just one person there's plenty of people are

complicit in this and the irony of it is a lot of those people were in that documentary yeah so if this documentary

takes it down it's taken down the people that were in the dock let me go even further Moll so you can't you can't

provide you can't you can't provide you can't have a ring without having money that's none

one number two Xena another one of the very disturbing facts that I've walked away from this dock thinking and please

I don't mean offend anyone but this was one of my natural thoughts when watching this dock it was hard not to come away

feeling like some families and some and some people just were paid off they said

that they were oh I mean but that was my first question when the girl that caught mono and then she caught the disease

that paralyzed her foot she said he sent my mom a thousand dollar check and I

looked at my homeboy and said do you think huh mom cashed that check I'm sure

so it's like yeah and Sparkle did allude that she thinks that maybe our family

was paid off to go to that court case and be like that's not our daughter and have the daughter say that's not me she

alluded there was no proof or brother or someone was playing guitar well that was all right so that was kind of the weirder part sooo that her

brother-in-law which would be the father of the daughter that was in that video continued to play guitar for our Kelly

and was in credits after that incident that's crazy so you would have to think

that there is a lot of money going into this Sukesh yeah and let me continue

with mall the judicial system is a money

thing let me continue the the lesser are

Kelly's net worth is that is when I think they're gonna snatch him like what

you can save you a lot yeah when when that money decreases to a certain point

this is all coming to a halt I believe some people are going to come forward

with new information they say more will be revealed that's up that's what that's what they say I'm waiting I'm waiting

more than well more has been revealed as a result as a docu-series Oh baby you just wait yes oh no oh no there was so

much psychology and all that I learned in this [ __ ] I don't know how anybody didn't come away from this [ __ ] feeling

like our Kelly has a stash of boys somewhere our Kelly's bisexual hmm I was shocked

it some people didn't get that way well what he had the young lady Dominique

doing seemed a bit on the bisexual sigh that's all that's all right I don't know

it would be called bisexual but is there something there's psychology to taking

that beautiful girl because she was beautiful for sure and making her look

and dress like a boy there's psychology to that and the more I thought about it I'm telling you all

I've been on a rabbit hole the more I thought about it yes from that's from you being abused that's from that's from

you being abused you so you've been abused I was going to an emeritus and he's been probably been abused by a man

and woman and won both no no I think he's an odd take it a step further than

man watching the doc I couldn't look at Bruce anymore no I couldn't look at

Bruce anymore absolutely Bruce made me Bruce made me feel like and I don't have

any factual [ __ ] don't sue me for defamation Bruce made me feel like he was involved yeah that's how I felt

yeah by some of his views yeah saying you have a preference also that was nap

that was also one of the grossest part of the documentary also being the older

male sibling in that entire situation one going through the same things that are Kelly went through as far as abuse

and to being the quote protector of your siblings you're involved and I didn't

take it for granted that when our Kelly did go to trial his defense was that's not me that was my brother

which I think it was the younger brother he said that about the younger brother

but that's not what I got from it yes hmm it's not what I got from it

the younger brother couldn't believe that that was said about him I can

believe it like what would force you to say that they're even in defense of

something like you have thought about this but you thought let out like I've heard that like I've

been down this [ __ ] rabbit hole where he's got these contracts making these women well they said it on the ship

we've got his contracts that he's making people admit to things that they really didn't do in case there's ever back in

case anything backfires in case anything goes wrong this is really complicated

stuff here this is not just an abuser targeting people yeah yeah his lawyers

are super nasty also they're all they're all they're all they're all nasty super

nasty yeah and another thing that came up for me personally that I took away from it was I've been really ignorant to

the fact that a lot of women in my life have been sexually assaulted and sexually abused and I didn't know that I

suppose a lot of women that I'm glad [ __ ] as you did you did a lot of people you know yeah a lot of women and I you

know I had to apologize I really didn't know that I knew so many women that was sexually abused I'm tell you all you

have to do is speak to women yeah yeah like they'll confide in you mm-hm they've been waiting to yeah work cuz

men don't make it the easiest for a woman to just cut Phi and tell them you know their secrets especially with abuse

we're not the easiest to talk to especially those types of things well especially so if you give them just a

little bit a woman will definitely do that yeah and it's worth the conversations you have because you do find out things of girls

you've known for 15 years like it's really they really bothered me though like that [ __ ] really [ __ ] me up like

I had no idea like I thought that was something that you know I would have known from knowing of somebody's woman

for so many years I'm like what like I never had any idea about that [ __ ] and they kind of looked at me like it

happens more than you think 1,000% you know now that's that that is some scary [ __ ] I know but then add to incest on

top of it just for some extra extra sicko spice like just just just an

essence this is deranged deranged [ __ ] um and I'll go further than just the

women you may know in your life it could check on some of your own family members

and I'm not saying that have been abused have been doing the abusing mmm-hmm for sure for sure so it's not just

friends speak speak with your family we'll find out some [ __ ] that you had no idea was

going on yes and that's why we have to be careful with some of these conversations because they are

conversations of the times Rory just said that and it instantly brought me back to my mom and dad's time maybe my

grandparents time when in the black household what happened there stayed

there what happened in your family yeah because there was some sick stuff

happening in families it just stayed in the family and speaking for myself I

don't have to be alive looking at my family I can see what my family endured

and I think a lot of this [ __ ] was you know it's handed down from generations

because you know in talking say like I said some women and then doing research on you know families and sexual abuse

our ancestors were forced to have sex with each other through slavery so I

kind of feel like you know even from that it was kind of may be handed down generational like you know one thing and

that's why you know I'll be having to trick my brain and to chill out because

like you go all over the place with just what your mind can't can wonder and these instances like it was a quick

second over the week and I was like damn and the white [ __ ] get caught with this [ __ ] and get you on a mill mm-hmm

like and now y'all know I'm not the woky esposa damn is there's something to all the black people we like didn't like who's

just putting all this out where we getting our alright like some craziness mhm my god you just think a lot again

back to our back to our Kelly being bisexual for a minute so on YouTube they didn't they feel like they done found

this [ __ ] man so and his name is Bubba come on and that made sense to me are

Kelly would be a good name Bubba is funny I no Kelly tried to kick at the bubble

like they didn't deter him at all and bubble and clean-cut guy on YouTube

hopefully bubbles no bubble look like an adult you can't you can't you can have a name like

bubble bubble a grown-ass man yeah your name boy young fellas 50 plus for sure I

didn't see any reports this is per mole cuz listen Twitter will find somebody in

a heartbeat what else what other takeaways did you guys have what did you

guys think about all the celebrity responses Omarion responded bun be responded a lot

of people fondant let me view well it was it was it's interesting to me for Omarion to respond at all and well yeah

you know to b2k thing and you know we all know that story yeah so it was

interesting on tour yeah talk coming up so it was trying to bring up dark times I mean is essential

but like I said this it created what I think the producers wanted it created a conversation they created an area a

whole narrative of yeah this is something that's been going all right before our eyes and it's time that we

address it and we speak about it and I saw a lot of people saying like oh now all these rappers and collaborators

with our Kelly want to come out and say this [ __ ] is nasty you have to give people some leniency of course it was

wrong because we did have some information but you can't just cancel and chastise people for now saying it

because a lot of times and I guess in those collaborations and all collaborations aren't we're best friends

now yeah somebody somebody emailed a beet sometimes yeah like you may not have all

that information and now that you have it you're speaking up so you can't just [ __ ] on oh now y'all want to talk about

it yeah now I do you know as now I have literally all the information in front of me and that's disgusting and I feel

awful that I participated in the career of this nasty guy and that's hot I'm

sorry more so a couple of people trying to hang legend for taking a picture with Harvey Weinstein at some point yeah you can't

wait before we ask from John Legend Harvey Weinstein we're best friends in the hotel together with abusing women no

he saw around yeah John Legend didn't know all of this [ __ ] that came out yeah

we can take that now and be a bit more cognizant on who we do collaborate with or pay attention more to people's social

lives and how they interact with women now we can move forward with that right it sucks that we're now in 2019 just

figuring that out but I hate to say it is what it is but let's at least take this info now and move forward with it

so I understand a lot of us now this is back to the streams going up I understand a lot of us now feel like how

could we have been so fooled how could we have been so naive how did we let so

many things slip through the cracks which now has us looking at everything a

bit skeptically I'm saying y'all dragged

plenty of plenty of people into this and that's just where it's a little dangerous because these are heavy your

words are your sward and these are heavy swarms that y'all are throwing around with some people that you can't really

prove this stuff about all you guys are asking people to come forward and start

talking about really dark subjects of course you understand why multi-million

dollar and billion dollar businesses would not feel like you guys are privy to this

I'm not exonerating anybody I'm just saying that's the thinking here I'd see

a lot of people trying to bring drag or Brean things mmm am I alone in that I

saw no but that's that's uh I kind of feel like you know Joe that's something

that we do a lot to like you know one person gets caught and you know you

start pointing fingers and you start blaming other people and you know putting the light on what they did and

no I'm not saying that about him oh he did the same thing he did and it's like I kind of knew that that was gonna be

something else that came out of this whole situation but I think like he was saying uh earlier we had a point now is it's

dangerous for us to just take things that we see in clips and here online and

and not really dig into and read into the entire situation because you know we

begin to a point now where it's gonna a lot of people are gonna start being called cold out on things that they've

done and things that they've said when you know they probably shouldn't be

because it probably isn't something that you know they're not exactly down with

this whole you know mess with young girls thing or they not you know the

whole trying to try to talk to a woman that's younger than you or date and woman as young anyone having sex with

nor sexual acts with young girls like with the Drake thing if you bring a girl onstage

and it's kind of like and I'm I'm gonna be honest I feel like I can name five

other artists I've been at shows when I ain't seen who that was yeah so like that's the arm be move it doesn't make

it okay it doesn't it doesn't make it okay but we can't put it in the same breath I agree with you but when you

pull someone from the audience and you're going about your show right I do think that it's your responsibility to

tell how old a she's of age absolutely I agree I agree but what I'm seeing that

happens but what I'm seeing right but what I'm seeing people do is they're trying to put it in the same breath it's

not it's not don't do that's low blow it's not today yeah we don't have enough

information to declare that about Aubrey today or some of the other people that

I'm seeing you guys name again if this are Kelly [ __ ] is 40 years of

accumulative work and evidence and like documented trails of [ __ ] yeah I also

think it's okay for like one person at a time or maybe like you know they say are

Kelly okay but what about such-and-such that did this to Harvey Weinstein for instance he's gonna get his day to yeah

you don't know like it's okay to take people down as they come yeah I agree mean as information comes

but I'm just saying we can't start just you know looking at every just putting everybody in the same box like oh he

brought a young girl on stage he's guilty of that like come on so so now so now so now the are says that he's coming

forward with a website called surviving lies which they try with a Facebook page

which I think got taken down but I did see they did take that page down salute to Facebook yeah and I did do some

digging has to find out why and why you can't sue when your name is used or a

certain [ __ ] like that and the lifetime legal team seems to think that they've

done a fine job corroborating all of this evidence and if you would like to bring the police involved in please do

so bring-bring a court bring a court to this mess that's a tough thing that's

like a drug dealer getting robbed and going to the cops like you can't really do that nothing lights on what sorry our

lifetime would actually welcome the court yeah they are you guys think it through man yeah yeah see that see how

less complicated the ring it would only at 1 M how could that's bad money

management thing the amount of writing credits and all that [ __ ] that are Kelly has outside of his own catalog how could

he be worth a million dollars because it's expensive to have a ring I mean I

agree man I remember long times always tell my Bill Cosby and then and I was saying how I spoke to some some people

from the me to movement they were saying that if 19 people if 30 people if 60

people are saying something then that's an expensive ring and people are not that coordinated we're dealing with the

one instance where he is that coordinated yeah it is a ring and it costs a lot of money I was just

listening to the money the figures they were throwing around in the duck outside of sparkles $1 or $100 that he gave her

everything else was he'll send 250 over there send five over there send 1/4 over

here sent like they was gonna this and that I believe I could my money was flying it was flying it was

going so I mean for me if you're worth am and I haven't I haven't checked that I'm in fact the fact check that at all I

could see it being believable yeah I could see plus he spoke to doing bad business for a long time so not being

able to read and understand contracts and stuff so there's a good chance that he wasn't even getting his proper share at the time where he was making hundreds

of millions of dollars if he wasn't so sick I swear I would wonder how many oh [ __ ] that's the others I've heard at

least nine to ten stories now in the past four days I heard the daylight

story about our Kelly and his basketball routine and you know we dismissed it because it's daylight but daylight was

saying out you know our Kelly got a gym in in the studio and [ __ ] come through

and they played ball but it was weird when he went to play because it was like his friends had rules like he was the

only one that was allowed to shoot the ball and daylight was saying even on a fast break it would be it would be it

would be four on none and they would wait and hand it off to Robert on the

wing Robert on the wing is sick matters you think you can't even be on the wing

nothing yeah I've heard that story ten

nine to ten times from other people man now and I know they have nothing to do

with pedophilia noise controlling but it does it's some predator [ __ ] well like

that's why I was telling y'all what the whole you know best of both worlds to it when that whole thing fell apart you

tell us off air are you sharing something here oh yeah I mean well share it with us but the part of the beef was

are Kelly didn't species I'm so sick in a mixie boy honestly enough of y'all

stupid he didn't want he didn't want anybody backstage he didn't want anybody in the halls when you say he who are you

referring to are Kelly got it he didn't want anybody in the halls when he was walking through and and he didn't want

anybody looking him in his eyes and yeah but you can't be yo yo

but you came here it's always so a bunch of [ __ ] and tell me I look you in yes a who you know get on my hole

are you my or you got a number one we can't do that you can't do that I knew

that with it was over for that [ __ ] at that point you don't want grown [ __ ] from the hood look you in your face well one day we're gonna have we gotta have a

Congress in that today because we have him seated conversation one day we got to have a talk about some of the rules at the show like yeah I don't know is it

just bad because like I said you start you start questioning a lot of [ __ ] that she was raised on and a lot of people

that you kind of looked up to at some point you know I mean when you get old enough you start looking back and you start really thinking about [ __ ] like I

lied to my life like I started feeling like that oh hey what do you think you

weren't I mean I'm at the point now I'm starting to feel like I was especially in a lot of areas well you were man yeah

like god that's you know if lied to is really the right phrasing cuz that was okay and people were living that way I

don't know if they were lying to you that's just how people were living and it's just a sick disgusting way to live well you live you live how they make you

live in a controlled society which I don't know is a lie it might sound better if they was lying no they was

telling the truth they were doing it well now I'm lost who's there whoever we're doing the abuse of things to

people oh no I relate everything back to the government I relate everything back to

the go yeah I mean when you say they

everything every instance the the environment that we were all living in in the things that people were doing

maybe not lying maybe just trying to hide some things but living that way yeah or make it seem

that it was okay for those types of things to happen and I mean I guess what I mean when I say I related everything

back to the government is some of these sick conversations that we're having are very common practice and low income the

lower income neighborhoods that's what I mean so in my brain anyway and again I

drop out I don't know the government expects certain things from certain parts of geography these conversations

that we have and about what was going on in that house wherever that house was was it Chicago Chicago yeah when we told

my incest we talked about abuse we probably tell about addiction apart on

my mental health where where there was never a fixed it was never therapy that was never they've all of these chances

to say no or do something different it never occurred very very common and my

brain I related all that to population control like in my brain I relate that yeah I do I relate everything I do well

I'm coming clean you know so let me go down this rabbit hole of relating everything so I'm watching the joke I'm

watching the the part 6 of the r.kelly doc and and it's toward the end after

the older 35 year old fan story was told and it's toward the end and they're showing clips about how people feel and

Charlemagne's there and ebro's there and I'm just deer playing with my kid and I'm having a blast and then they showed a clip of us the

Joe Budden podcasts it was an older clip it was from when we recorded at Ferraris

in New Jersey before we were at parks um I can't say I remember it but we said

the right [ __ ] we said when I saw us come up there yes cantle I was a little

nervous um but we said look before you get to you being nerve innervation Asst

let's say we said the right thing yeah we did we said the right thing that's important highlight um so now let's get

to Rory's nervousness and I commend you for your nervousness why are you nervous I was nervous

because sometimes with this podcast I think some of our joking can come off

the wrong way and sometimes we can be a bit insensitive in the earlier days what

so I was a little bit nervous that maybe we were joking about something we shouldn't have been joking about that's

all I understand you what a luxury to be nervous about jokes right so I'm nervous

right now as you should be but that's why we're gonna talk about it this is that that's why we're probably

the only place that is gonna have some of these conversations that I'm about to have because our clip came up on that on

that screen and and I own it so that's a

licensing issue I wasn't I wasn't asked for that footage to be used so I was

just as shocked as everyone else was I was learning that we were on this dock in real time same yeah and the more I

thought about it I said to myself okay the thinking there is probably with such

a greater good happening they probably don't assume that somebody is coming forward to claim money from from them

airing their dock mmm like there's a goal there's an objective who's that

creep right the answer is whoever it is it's not me it's not me um so I thought

I thought nothing more of it until I began to read things and as I began to

read things I saw a lot of horrible [ __ ] I saw a lot of horrible [ __ ] being said

and it made me harken look hearken yes I know but serious [ __ ] sounds like a rich

white guys middle name it made me I'll tell you I'm dying [ __ ] it made me go back to our

conversation last week where some of the fans were killing people for not coming forward and not being a part of this

dock yeah yeah um and we were saying I think it's a million reasons that people

would not want to be involved but now I was witnessing it in in in real time um

boy was I getting killed hmm yeah I was getting dragged through

the mud for speaking up on such a positive dock such a positive

informative dock right so I said to myself well [ __ ] that doesn't feel good

they had lists going around it was like 30 names canceled them all I was there I

didn't I didn't feel good about it I'll be honest with you guys I'll be out in a moment of transparency I was hurt I was

hurt by it it didn't sit right with my soul and I thought that maybe would pass

and I went to sleep and I woke up and it still didn't sit right with my soul and

that was the moment that I was faced with the decision that many men are

faced with well how much do I want to talk for some months now I've been

alluding to this society that makes it not so welcoming for men to share right

for many reasons men don't share because everything you

say technically is a deposition and can be used in court mm-hmm that's one men

don't speak in fear of what may happen to them professionally two and three

fear period fear because we have indeed treated

women improperly at some point our lives yes very true I think that's the blanket

statement that a lot of men just aren't ready to come forth with and that's why

it's such scary times yeah but these conversations have to be had because you

have to contextualize some of these things like this is the first week I actually looked up the word abuse it

said improper usage period guilty I have

utilized women and properly at some point in life I have utilized people improperly seeing that's why

contextualizing is important some of this stuff is not gender specific at all

at all some of this stuff is humanity some of this stuff is people treating

people improperly but forget about all that for a second so I saw my name on

all of these lists and then people started to hit my mentions let's talk about it we have a much larger audience

today a lot more people are looking at and paid paying attention to Joe Budden today than they were before so people

naturally start to hit my mentions and say yo Joe I'm seeing some [ __ ] that's

care to share I was unaware I saw that I

saw a little bit I saw a lot of and this is a wildfire one person says something

20 people say wait what happened and now that person's word is a certified and

now if you don't jump in and you don't say something that word just continues

to be certified yeah see that's the other thing here silence let's talk

about it we don't talk about a lot today silence in the court of public opinion

is an admission of guilt for most people

if you did not do something you just come forward and say hey I didn't do that in this and

and this it's a bit more layered and I would like to use myself as an example

because I owe it to people that's why I'm doing it I owe it to certain people and I've

never done anything to help myself hmm I'm having this conversation because

morally it's the correct thing to do and there's no more inappropriate time than

right the second yeah so for the people that were talking to me confused looking

for clarity let me try my best as as as a mature responsible adult to help

myself years ago I was in a relationship

with a woman that I was not compatible with and we had a bad breakup I take

that back we didn't have a bad breakup we handled

our breakup badly there's a difference

I'm a I've never spoken about this in depth not in fear of ramification but

out of respect hmm out of respect for the young lady out of respect for hurt

child or children her family my family

and that's just an answer thing to do when you put some behind you you just try to put it behind you but let's get

into it I was in a relationship with a woman that I was not compatible with nor

was i behaving like a man that was in a committed relationship I was not behaving like I was I was

telling someone one thing and I was doing another thing that's what was

happening years later let's talk about it um I was not considerate to my

partner's feelings I was not behaving in a manner that was indicative of someone that was in a monogamous relationship

I was exited I was disconnected right and I'm keeping this on me because I

want to I want to always be mindful to respect other people their anonymity and

people that just want to move forward and put certain things behind them um that bad breakup culminated in domestic

abuse allegations and me being ordered away from my home for weeks at a time

eight weeks to be exact six to eight weeks that was two months at the end of

the trial period I could return that was to give the authorities the time for

their due diligence and to do proper research to these allegations that's a

conversation to be had and I'm the perfect person to have it because I've gone through this in New Jersey and New

York and my experience was very different both times I'm here to share it with you guys in New Jersey they took

a lot of time to get to the bottom of what happened I was ordered away from

the young lady for her safety and protection because states don't play the

states in that plan with women safety is what I'm saying so I was ordered away

they spoke to her in private they allowed her the proper time to remove

her belongings and get her situation together and we were to return to court

and when we returned to court the young lady stood up after some of those

feelings in that angry moment had passed after we were trying to hurt each other

cuz that's what we were doing after the break-up we did a bunch of interviews where the sole objective was to hurt the

other person certainly somebody out there can understand this stuff this

stuff is never said news flashy one that

she killed those interviews I was horrible I was young I was immature I was on

pills dark time's for me I was rebellious I had

this I don't give a [ __ ] attitude that I've managed to shed somehow I've

learned no certain things you got to care about I didn't really get the ramifications of even the accusation

back then so I did nothing to help myself and unfortunately when the judge

throws this stuff out it's not really publicized the way it's publicized when

the allegations are birthed true or false

fast fast forward fast forward and

typical Joe but in fashion I make the same mistake more than once I later get

involved with a young lady who I didn't know very much about and she didn't know very much about me it was short-lived it

didn't last very long and when it ended she felt she had a lot of emotion and

she went about that emotion at that time the best that she thought how which

resulted in me again putting on a clinic

and how not to use the Internet again as I proclaim my innocence I

cursed out the police I cursed out the system I cursed out her I cursed

everybody out zero accountability at the time I then faced an aggressive

prosecutor and DA's office in New York who didn't seem so concerned with

finding out the truth they was trying to hang a [ __ ] they were going hard I went

to court for two years I went through the same exact process that anybody else would go through if a cop knocks on your

door and says hey somebody said some things please come with us that's what

occurred I don't think that because I went

through these things and was found innocent of all of these things that

that [ __ ] omit me from having a voice and having something to say about

predators pedophilia and men who commit

abuse on women that's where this gets a little confusing for me um that's where

most of my that's where most of my feelings came from as I read as I read

these lists so I guess so I just I came

away from all of that saying well goddamn and well what system do we

respect today again I checked the boxes I faced the judge the judge threw it out

if we won't respect that system the alleged victim came forward and

spoke and exonerated me if we won't respect that clearly if you look if you

have eyes and ears I don't I don't behave the way that I used to behave so we not respect and reform so what part

are we going to respect and then that's where this this this movement gets

cloudy a little bit because I need to separate the people that are actually

invested in this past the tweet past you're saying something and going on

about your life from the people that's just bandwagoning because it's trendy

from the people that are just hopping on trying to demoralize another human being

that's totally different I'm invested in this a different way

because my life was nearly altered behind false allegations I try not to

say that because unfortunately there's no way for a man to defend himself against that without sounding and

sensitive to actual victims of these things

and that's what this is about so when I read my name bunched up with this stuff

I think about the young lady I think

about the disrespect how insensitive it is to hurt her people me my fiancee my

family not to sound like Kevin Hart at what point do we allow people to put any

moment in time behind them when you go

through incidents like these a

restraining order is immediately placed as they try to figure out what happened

um so again because there were restraining orders in place I wasn't

running to the Internet to say hey the young lady and I are are great we're we're fine we're happy this is behind us

we were wrong we apologize to each other we had some different conversations at later times where we both figured that

we just wild out for a little bit was wrong and we bugged nor do you owe that to the public want to make that part

clear - well apparently that's where it's tricky yeah that's where tricky

because you're right in my opinion you don't you do kind of you do yeah I

you're a public servant which last week I just said we're all public servants

then you may be overt a little bit because there was a restraining order in place I never got to say that I later

spoke to my second accuser and she had no I was so shocked that her life was

altered by her moment and her decision-making in that time she didn't

anticipate that see those are the conversations we're not having sometimes

people say things in a moment of anger and then they want nothing to do with that because it's not only someone

else's life altered it's theirs as well and the lady back up off that this is

why the law is trying to get to the bottom of the law trying to lock [ __ ] up the law one [ __ ] $100,000 in bail

but the law is on your ass they not playing with y'all I never got the saying is though I never

helped myself in these in these instances I don't think it's fair that

my name is bunched up with people who have open cases open investigations

people that have people that have victims who feel like they were silenced

by certain institutions nothing that's happening like this cannot be an

emotional movement sorry it's very

dangerous I don't mean to be I don't want to offend anybody no no I am certainly respectful of what's going on over this

rink [ __ ] didn't know me know women are God's greatest creation to me but we

cannot be emotional we have to be responsible in this moment of time with

the power that we have if not it's it's sheer hypocrisy and we're guilty of the very same thing that we're accusing

people of which is abusing power and taking advantage of and more important

we have to be very honest with each other in these times and in situations like these that honest communication you

know in acceptance acceptance is important I don't think a lot of people are you know we don't move past a lot of

[ __ ] because people don't accept their part and their own weight and you know what you just what you just said was

finally you know accepting that yes I did things in my relationship that I

caused a lot of [ __ ] a lot of reaction what therapy teaches you to keep it all on you so while these accusations were

flying more you know I never looked at for me and this and this hurt me at the

time but I never looked at damn well

then I always looked like damn why a little stuff happening I didn't do that how could you believe that and I never it took therapy and intense therapy for

me to look at it and say who cares who cares what part did I play in getting us

both to this place where this occurred but I

think that's the part that some people miss right but we can't be in this space

where we allow where we don't allow people to feel and to make mistakes

sorry as horrible as all of this sounds it is a part of my journey it's a part

of me realizing certain [ __ ] and growing up a little bit like life is gonna give

all of y'all different things to teach us all different things it's me it's

what makes us us and my [ __ ] was [ __ ]

up hey if somebody come to you and tell you some some horrible [ __ ] that Joe did

some negative [ __ ] what you should say is we'll win I ain't up ain't ya I mean

but holier than thou yeah I must say deeper than that Joe you know none of us

are without sin right so it's like we all know like once one rumors start all

the rumors start like everybody relax

everybody relax I am so grateful that these conversations are able to be had

today because another part that was missing and all of that was and that was

probably it toward that the end of it but I was a mental health case for at

least 10 to 20 years at that time those conversations couldn't be had it was a

window to say that as a society and

that's why you know I try to highlight arc are Kelly and his abuser because as

a society we're negligent to people that are abused like abuse breeds abuse

hurt breeds hurt victims victim might like it's a cycle of [ __ ] and if I'm not

allowed to feel uncomfortable at mere sight of my name by some of these allegations and mentions then what is

the purpose of the cause and I'm not

asking to be funny I'm asking I'm asking like for enlightenment like the there

are real predators amongst us the second that we have factual evidence against

some of these [ __ ] know who gonna be the first [ __ ] to come on this platform and tell two million people per week you

[ __ ] guessed it Joe Joe Joe be

banished it's like tell me what tell me what the problem what protocol is here

I should be thrown thrown to the [ __ ] side cuz I was young and didn't know how

to deal with [ __ ] now I don't think that's the motive I don't think that's

the goal I don't think that's the objective when that I don't even I don't

even like to highlight that hypocrisy because I feel like the people that are involved with this movement they not

dumb you know I like the LA people say hey it's not it's not that late people [ __ ] up LA as y'all that's kind of

that's kind of how I feel about that I'm off on a tangent here so feel free to

jump in know what it was oh no I think you covered yeah what you needed to cover you needed to get that off and I

think it's an appropriate time um but like I say you know it's time we reprogram our I think we were program

out thinking like it's cool for us to love our women you know it's cool for us to respect our women it's cool for us to

uplift our women it's cool for us to support our women and I think we got to get back into a mindset of really

walking and living about it I'm telling that that's why my mom was down this rabbit hole mall because as I was

reading all these things one of the things that stood out to me and I never felt like this before I never thought

this was I was only reading this from black woman right like it wasn't nobody

else saying these horrible things about me but black woman and that led me to the the underlining

tension that does exist between black men and black women about how black

women feel that they've been treated by by by black men right like I'm my husband but this has been a heavy week

man but that's why I said you know it I would have never expected you know the

scenario there's this conversation to come from this docu-series like I think that you know it's it's

it's healthy conversation is healthy I think that it helps people grow it helps

people move on and and you know deal with [ __ ] in their lives and expose things and just bring [ __ ] to the forefront that may be holding them back

and that may be affecting them in ways that they're not even aware of like when you sit down and have conversation I

think we saw about this in Prior before sometimes like a lot of issues are only issues because lack of just a

conversation a simple conversation would resolve all of that and I think that you know moving forward we just need to to

keep that in mind cause it's easy for us to you know talk about this now and in two weeks and then three weeks we don't

even think about this [ __ ] no more because something else will have happened but it but I think we have to do our best to keep this in mind moving

forward that we need to reprogram the way we think and the way we treat women

in a way we you know just just move about in our daily lives just we have to we have to change a lot of things a lot

of things were handed down to us generational and a lot of the times we

can't expect the world to change and then out-thinking be the same oh i'll thinking be the same that was handed

down says we have to change the way that we think and that we you know our relationships with our women and our

lives and not just women that you're in a romantic relationship I'm just talking

about women in general period we have to we have to change the way we think and

we act and we treat our women in our society we have to triger yeah I totally

agree that's the best thing in this whole docu-series and everything surrounding it and the me to movement is

hopefully growth what I learned from watching that doc is not only to meet to

movement there so many different movements yeah like some not as publicized as others but

there are a lot of places for people to go to and yeah I mean get right yeah

yeah and to piggyback off what you said Joe it has been unfortunate with this

too to see the me to movement just trying to catch this trendy online [ __ ]

to your point of it's not the people in LA it's the people that are coming in to [ __ ] it up it falls back to that social

media attention thing I think people the me to movement is made up of women that have been abused they've been through

this for years there's evidence there's all these things that they've had to live through this cancel culture takes a

30-second clip that they see online with no context and adds it into a pile of

people that have gone through a lot of abuse over the past God knows how many years well so that's why I'm trying to

have the conversation because past canceling someone what is the next step

see some people are only gonna say hey he did that cancel them there's so much

more to be done I almost feel like it's almost in this weird sick selfish way when people do some of that canceled

culture [ __ ] cuz it's not for the moral reasons of what they say it is it's hey

I'll probably get a lot of attention if I quote expose this person for a two-second clip with no context at all

because that's what everyone else is talking about it has nothing to do with a women that were actually in that documentary that are part of the

meatsuit movement we're all morally sound until we go home they're like what

else are we gonna see here what I will say is I am shocked at the amount of people that are still riding with Robert

yeah they're still out disturbing every day every day I was someone tweeting me knob you can separate the music tweets

of people calling us [ __ ] yeah well I'm no no siding like y'all are just

siding with women y'all a [ __ ] like Jesus Christ it yeah really well that's

another reason that these conversations are is so great that they're being had because men are really telling you how

sick they are yeah like ladies you don't have to do much investigative

work right like men speaking about this loan topic to tell you exactly where the

respect level is for women and how they feel about women

I was watching somebody who I shall not name why I felt for a little while now

has just had zero respect for women and it's all stance is yeah I totally understand are yeah yeah I get it man

he's a little chicken fast mama like the subtext and some of the things that men

are saying is it's intolerable it's difficult to read it's difficult to bear and again it's been a really heavy week

for me I have watched this document

people it's always interesting to see the men that speak on this situation that don't have daughters I think that's

interesting I think I've seen a lot of guys you know social media jump out there and say some things and I'm like damn like that's how you feel about this

and they don't start looking at that me like oh you know you don't have no kids or he has a son two sons I don't I don't

have any daughters but I have a mom and that's why you know what it is because

people don't it if it if it doesn't directly affect them you know it's kind

of like a yes a lot of people saying that about Sparkle they did they were saying oh you was cool with with him

doing this to anybody else but once it was your niece you know you had a lot of guilt that you are right right yeah is

this a messy situation man it's it's messy uh save on just showed me a report that

said in LAN is thinking about filing filing charges or invest Oh our Kelly rapport Kelly reportedly under

investigation in Georgia for possible criminal charges listen if I'm watching that doc it's man time to get that [ __ ]

why he was crossing state lines yeah with yeah with with minors yeah so this doesn't have to just be an Atlanta

thing he faked Aidid though the premises when it got hot over there when the reports came

he's set up shop somewhere different this is not solely an Atlanta thing if

we do some digging I did I tell you last week I feel like they go together that's

already trafficking right there the last recent two outside of joseline savage

like the one that was on the actual dock yeah they say here prosecutors reportedly claim they already have one

woman ready to testify so they feel very strongly that they have a case already this is without questioning any of the

women that were in that documentary oh good I feel like in the future women and young men will come forward I hope so I

hope so this is this is a positive thing even though it's hard to digest and hard

to watch and hard to stomach and hard to apply to your own life and realize that

that thing type of thing may be happening or have happened to people that you love mm-hmm but it's it's something that we need to

do it's important okay was that was that responsible was that a responsible 90

minutes I think it was yes oh absolutely I think it was a healthy 90 minutes okay

good I would play outstanding but I'm not it's 2019 switching up on us yeah

both played at the barbecue [Music]

and this is outstanding 1b what this is outstanding park B Part B when I was

thinking about making a switch I was like oh [ __ ] you could let that rock until he says tell me that's not a body

spotted back in the studio what star Rihanna no we know that buyer we back to

the jokes we back to the joke she was spotted back on mute she she stays on

mute in the studio why would she previous to that information Rihanna is and can I get a note I get

like a a flat no nah fam you get it when the world get it yep I could see her

drop in though and spring some time and I think that uh Jay Cole you know he's

miss in the studio brother slow down we get our music face and you won't be

produced we got it we got nothing really to talk about Rihanna we don't we ain't here not blow Wendy I think the album's coming I have plenty to say about

Rihanna y'all never get into the psychology of records sometimes it

depends on the artist okay so listen till we need Frankie Beverly amazed again no no Club it here we go sometimes you

just hear records man I'm gonna play this record I'm gonna play this record because the queen is coming man

[Music] but I believe I was gonna say that no one's putting it straight forward I

believe I believe her I know but let's kind of Rihanna does have lying I know but when you get into the thinking of it

like sex is supposed to be about the other person like the brain of the woman

that's walking in the room and telling you that's sex with her is amazing if

there's one girl that can get that off i'ma let Rihanna get that one off actually I think she's giving everyone if not I'm

gonna find out if she's telling the truth y'all haven't bumped into that girl but the girl is this extra with

telling you how great it's usually those I'm no I'm a roll with Rihanna I don't

think she's one of those green Honor we believe yeah yeah sometime of the rest of them oh my head is crazy there's

always the my head is crazy girl any girl that just holding time lied on a Wednesday at 3 p.m.

trying to tell me about her box yeah it's a pride can't be that good my head is crazy you get the head you find out is mad sane the head is crazy saying

like there's nothing crazy about that head how convenient is that Wow [ __ ]

literally her head yeah well you got a judge more than they're telling you how great their head is so you gotta judge

them yeah and see I'm telling you I'm bringing some chicks near one day but this but this thing with chicks are

gonna say that we shouldn't be speaking to women who were telling us how great their head is on a Wednesday because

we're too old for that I'm too old to talk about how great a woman's head is I know you too old to deal with the woman

that's talking about how great our head is on the Wednesday afternoon they might have a point sure yeah they may have a point

yeah whoa man yeah the depo do you want

to be mad gonna shoot you is funny oh

okay let me grab my [ __ ] phone and see what's going on Golden Globes

that now you weren't act cool no I said that it wasn't much to happen it was

cool that's a scathing hot take yeah yeah Golden Gloves cool this just why do people listen to this part well why do

y'all why do y'all do a podcast it's like about to tell people stuff whenever

I have pre-production regarding this show I just start laughing pre-production where's people reduction that my Golden

Globes take was they did though diversify audience thing with the Asian

host and the other host I think the whole store one guy I think the host didn't do the greatest the greatest job

I felt like that they were doing that sarcastically do it Andy samberg's

comedic thing is sarcasm yeah awesome didn't connect we knew those about that

like sometimes that's true okay I think

we're hosting to like you're going to the all of America here just be straight funny take it easy

like you tried to always intelligence Socrates were to impress your other comedic friends be an out the next

coming announcer with like false credit you're trying to impress the stand-up

comedians dog it's all gonna the middle America here seemed rushed st. uh just didn't

seem like they were ready to get the job done which is fine we've all been there before my scathing hot take came when in

that room full of amazing talent amazing writers amazing actors actresses the

tools that were bombing decided to include Jim Carrey from the audience and Jim Carrey stole the room and Jim Carrey

and I said to myself why on God's green earth did two holes that are bombing try

to include one of the greatest brains of Holi get this off me to a genius yeah

yeah that came off right though I wasn't

giving him props for that already handed it off that's definitely what they plan

to do yeah the dope ass off in a relay don't ever get credit yeah I grab I grabbed it was on arrest

God Joe break it down grab the baton and I ran that's important because if you fumble the hand off

that's true you have no chance you have no shot truck that was real big on every day race thing that's nodos your event

parks I'm just curious don't say event to me don't say I don't

have an event I know somebody fans say they I need to look at Rory more it's on

I'm trying to do it but it's weird that's why I've never taken offensive

everything is in that area so I'm just like a mall is here the computers is

music not school week a little bit I'm

looking Rory and I still can't see his pocket come on man give me a look Ross quarter angle there you go boys

it's not just if the rest of podcast Wow

Safari line oh man let me see all right what else is happening oh nothing stay

with music Rick Ross tried to tease us I didn't like that game my phone call just blaze right now get my phone that's a

good idea for those that don't know Rick Ross sweetie just blaze don't know it's just birthday okay you talk about his

birthday I was trying to inform the viewers on what we're talking about Rick Ross

tweeted just blaze said can someone so just place thank you even though he added him in it and then after that tweet he said hey someone tell justice

league as well I said thank you so the two I would say my favorite producers

with Rick Ross he thanked all of the deuces of your favorite for Ross no I'm

gonna just clean up John's Dre shot money oh now we're also Justice League and

just plays our would be my two favorites that's that's fair pink no idea that's

true I was waiting for him to tweet pink yeah are you gonna call Jess on his birthday yeah if I could figure out it

worked my phone is taking them too much space

now just doesn't answer me normally don't expect anyone it's worth it on his birthday Joey what up huh Just Blaze

this is Joe Budden from the Joe Budden podcast how are you I know but I have to

inform you that we're live on my palm oh I have a couple of them I have a couple

cool questions I don't want to hold you I saw you I saw you and Rick Ross tweeting to each other and that was an event for me because I'm a hip-hop

savant okay and I know that you open up this special folder for Ross how dope is

this beat oh you know do some lord knows

these type of things would just bleh I mean we're across you played him a

folder you wouldn't play other rappers

watch your words you heard this beaten [Applause] [Laughter]

all right I mean this would be DePaul didn't pay for that's all alright it's

my second question to you I just celebrated my child's one year old birthday I remember calling you when he

wasn't born yet saying yo you should give me a beat

[Music]

it's pretty good you should let me produce the Just Blaze alright so I'm

glad top 5 Just Blaze beats do you think

the pump it up is in there cuz I saw the people going around with a list today

and I was kind of offended now I thought

it should be highlighted that at the time [ __ ] wasn't running to you for their first single not true I should get

credit come on just I don't get no credit for coming to you and saying y'all need that smash you was doing

whole albums all right so look so I don't know that it's necessarily top 5

beats I think it's top 5 I agree with it did you see something art I agree with

that I mean what's the movie always that

would have got more problems chokehold

yes today today that's in year 16 right just

got the better splits there this year

oh wait oh now remember you dug me out of a higher percentage you got a higher

percentage of oh boy yeah that is robbery's [ __ ] lame

no because the way that happened was cam rushed in to the radio and had he just wait we were gonna remove the sample but

he did it hmm so the fact that a sample took a lot so I was like hey if you hadn't given me an extra day we would

have just removed the sample and we would have been in the free might a

couple miles directly oh wait here's one just I got one for you and I need you that I need you to be honest here and I

believe you all have recently Rory mall and myself we were well

actually mall um I said we were talking to home about the pump it up remix and hole hole swore to his heart that he was

not dissing me at all I don't believe he said I said it was

more so it's about just I think like [ __ ] with just like cuz he didn't I'm saying he was like give me that be full

we talking to just so I'm gonna give you

a rundown of the history of pump it up real quick some parts to are obviously

were there for some parts one of Greater songs ever I think I made that stream

it's well Jay was doing um I don't normally use this word anymore but [ __ ] please from the

blueprints ooh mmm okay great record um J was doing that

before all in one room Oh at baseline so I made I was making that beat in the B

room I heard it I knew was a smash I called him and I called him listen to

this he heard it was like alright yeah but I'm going to do this uh Pharrell

record I'll be back [ __ ] it on you never saw me I'm gonna go

talk to Pharrell I just blaze stay proud but he was

already out and obviously rot the mic was the big record from state property so I don't know whose project or why we

were there but with all of us or all of us meaning me and all of state property we're living in LA for a while this was

I think this was the trip the trip reggae had the car crash when he was in LA the alleged car crash right we were

in LA working and I brought that pump it up beat I put the beat back up added a

few extra things so I'm still working on it and you know Freeway at the time would literally rap on anything that I would

ever give him so he was running around to it B's was very high and was like and I

envisioned it as the follow-up to rock the mic that's why I brought up state property so then a bunch of random like

yo West Coast dudes like second and third and fourth generation Dogg Pound

guys that like you better family you know like they were all members of me

they were all of the studio they started writing raps - and um like the beat off

[Music] hey you're the studio and I was making EP I

didn't like it you didn't like it daddy they put on the pump it up you were like

what's that and we did what we did two months later by the studio with Jay and he's like yo that Joe but John is is

fresh but like this time you make something like they play it for me first as funny I feel like that about this

show me what you got beat he was like but I feel like he made that beat for me

really listen I know I wasn't important

Jay said to me play it for me first next time and I said but I didn't come you want to hang over for oh mmm hey why do

you say that wait hold up this is this is my last question that I need an honest answer to from you yeah who's

Pharrell beats do you pick holes or Nori's who got the better

Pharrell cattle oh you don't even know

what you have Inori oh no [ __ ] on the

run Eden what's natal homeboy I came to party was the name of that record [ __ ] yeah what

are you talking about that's it that's that's big records oh no he has a few

more records than that tell me how many records over throw it close F all night

Noorie 100 you're so bias please there's

more they don't forgetting there's a lot we're breaking my rules try not to talk about Oh miss excuse me miss wait

all right we gotta go [Laughter]

thank you and at some point I'm still gonna want that beat with the choir you

happy birthday happy birthday just yeah thanks just enjoy your birthday man all

right she'll just blaze go just yeah

every time I die you're just voice are your whole thing day may millions just made millions I wanted to ask him about

the this the silent go beef that him and Kanye head back to any baseline he

woulda said that he was battling for like placements he he would have said it was just healthy competition they were pushing each other you know what you

know just no more just with the dreads

nah be the dread didn't give a [ __ ] he

wasn't feeling Kanye being up a base line every day why he was that's a go over his head yeah who wins in a beat

battle Kanye just pink or Justice League

okay so is the beat battle gonna be them playing records or just beats and are

they new beats or old beats is it their catalog that we're debating I'm saying we're just nobody no records no records

just bleats new beats unheard beats exclusive beats who wins just beats

either justice Justice League I think just think no disrespect I think just

beats Justice League I don't know Justin

pink beat Bofur if we talk much yeah I would say y'all hey y'all Sam Dinkin I just said me no I said just a big big I

think all these reach all my beats let's call pink are you crazy

you must have spoke too big I didn't but I mean if he/she I can be carved out okay well now I'm

curious I want to take a little friendly bet that he gets cursed out right

you don't answer no I'm gonna go with he doesn't answer i'ma go he doesn't if he does answer he's gonna say yo you owe me money

cursed out he'll curse yes that's a

curse out you block you block good luck

don't say goodbye to me yeah traveling

for Michael what he thought about that

befell that hypothetical be battle he's got to him I will say that Justice League finish horse is gonna say he's

gonna say him and he might not be that far off it's someone who's heard all they're like two tracks and [ __ ] like what they come up with yeah Oh Justice

League shits be sounded finished yeah I was about to say Justice League they use so many instrumentation and just to

movie-esque is one in beat battle it's

diff some of that melodic shit's not really I'm thinking that's why I said

big if we took my just beat yeah and so all the Kanye stands we think he's a great producer but nah I just I don't

take away all what I think about his personal life I don't think he fares great at great music like reggae yeah

great records exactly yeah um I don't think we should do a podcast without

highlighting some Toya Toya Browns release I'm getting her name correct yes

save on society that's why I like sivanna should not know its sin Toya you

see all them people trying to come for his job cool the problem is I love save

on so we're gonna keep him still yeah somebody somebody emailed me this is the subject save on trash yo where do I

apply guarantee I can assure you I will always have clips daily there's no

there's no content you guys won't have that I can't make in one second so long you gotta go make it clips in one second

you don't do it in one second and he ends it with secondly everything will be worth researched as y'all say it

research as we say it I did block the

email I don't just have perspective save on he also took the time to thoroughly

read it and you know Rory can't read that's true that's very true what does that tell you his exact word was trying

to hire two kids so yo you open up the replied their reply box though well I

just don't understand why I say one does this job while living in Boston yes it

does that just means Joe's Boston is like another part of Jersey oh wait say

Waddell has lived in Boston this whole time I'm in Westchester you can't help

us this way all right what else has happened there's been aa do we care about the Nicki Nicki and meek spice

Awards know there's been some spice happen that's one side I'm throwing it

to barb mall yo ma'am I would be honest

man y'all know how much I love Nicki man but it's just yeah man it might be time

to just come off that Nicki train there's much as I love Nicki but it's just it's too much [ __ ] going on it's

kind of like so disappointing so does the point with her where events have

taken her I'ma be honest and I love Nicki this funny man Nicki so miles

you're gonna expose somebody secrets it's like yo man once the guy has changed we don't care

and everyone loves him right roots I guarantee he loves me yeah that's crazy

out time change meek was in that relationship and he was the underdog she was the beloved one she sold all the

records forms she was you know she gave him the visibility and he got it now yeah

with it without her even more so than her probably some would say yeah we do

we I think they owe us a messy breakup though it was it was slightly messy

no not messy enough for me I want to see more mess as a lot of people say we're gossip podcast now no that's why I say

that I don't know man I just you know

it's just disappointing to see with Nicky the events have gone Nicky don't

release week secrets it's gonna backfire yeah please don't do that don't I don't even want to know his secrets like me

got wild secrecy for Billy if he's saying someone's spitting in his mouth and that's not a secret the secret

between him Oh Mellie quad no I'm cool

well I did wonder cuz they both brought in New Year's Eve it live now Liv is

large enough to where you can be there with your ex I not see that person but I

don't know if Nicki also tweeted that she missed his Queen Radio well she says

I said it's coming I correlate that she said she has a messiness coming win it at the same time I wish she would get a

Rick away from or unless I wish but I wish she stopped that she can do she can do Queen radio and body it without

addressing anything without without being messy toward anybody class yes she

can do it she has the stature she has the audience she can do it and also said in the first five episodes that hey this

isn't going to be a messy radio show good this is just because this is happening at this moment and then it disappeared when no messiness happened

which goes back to her having a good year as far as music goes annex eyelid album and then just ruining it with

antics instead so none of us paid attention to her good album we just looked at all this [ __ ] that she's

doing seems like 2019 isn't changing much she's in a gang now so she's feeling empowered good show up me I'm kidding of course um

all right so give me your opinion on let's see more spice Awards who do you

think is winning the spice Awards between curry and harden come on come on

let me look at Rory that was a double entendre you really don't ask don't ask me I was double checking just tell me what curry would

win that spice no think so Kurt okay

it's okay we'll work on colors tomorrow [Laughter]

hurry would be spicy let me see that pocket joke pocket yeah y- don't weigh

that pocket there big bid so much sauce Oh Korean are very hardened yes Rory

curry would be spicier than Harden I wouldn't want to eat anything versus

some curry [ __ ] can we make anything great curry shrimp curry chicken that's very Go Go curry rice curry

lasagna they trying to freak it who the

curry chicken mac and cheese and yes I call it the curry Krakens over here

hurry chicken over here that is a travel

yeah yes so why so why how come is not a travel when harden does it it's it's in

the the motion that James does it it kind of looks like a hop step but it is a travel no I don't know but if you look

at these you can take two step back step back again

particular way to mount was one try to

go to dream and eat wings with James that one travel work that was crazy though but I think a lot of the times I

don't I think the rest get caught up in watching the game like we do sometimes that they forget they're officiating the game because they should stop doing that

no cuz that's what that Kevin Durant out-of-bounds fellows that was I don't know how to ref was standing right there and did not he was never he was never in

bounced at home off the bench he took extra step so you can really see that he

was at a fan of bells watching I'm like you know he didn't call it dip before

before curry at the shot I'm like yo he wasn't Katie just running out of bounds yeah I thought the game changed I

thought the NBA rules changed for me now I didn't know what was lesson let's stay on the words for a minute do you guys think draymond Green is overrated now

that he's not producing and they're losing dreama's not over overrated

he's one moment I do think that he's uh if you put him on another team and force

him to do more without superstars I think that you know he to his stock

lowers a lot he's definitely a Wes Welker I think he's a Wes Welker type player put him in that system for the

Patriots Edelman Edelman yeah yeah but

with that said I think if he goes to a different system it's a different thing like when West wannabe rose it was over

was it wasn't wasn't want to run this lot for the wind my flag football

tournament very much Rory tell that to you say friends over here dropped from

track school school you couldn't even Rob his tracks enemy were running track school tracks

move away teacher out of track track oh that's good oh that's cool forgot yeah

that's cool you was definitely in there being predatory in dry class no class to

be a predatory thousand visit that's nasty roar we don't do that yeah alright

wait no yes yes no away from it yeah

please no no I thought that what I'm saying is what I'm not saying is the

track me will be having such nice legs that that's the first thing you say is they run track that was a pick-up line

well babe a wrestle wrestle legs and

wonder why do you have nice legs like watch wreck why are your legs so toned and defined wrestling comes to mind

yeah okay in our DV pocket this [ __ ]

crazy I got it just talk no I wanted to

hit the new Jill button on that one dammit no we're not hitting the new Joe

Budden hitting some Franky [Laughter]

[Music] [Laughter]

[Applause] look at me yo and this [ __ ] come on feel

like I'm dancing like kidney whiz I wanna make it like I'm throwing my hat in the air catching it with my me you

lost all DJ privileges that's crazy flip this flip the fader so the crowd

can sing acapella we can't hear them at work you wouldn't get what y'all was

about to say you make me happy I'm not having a problem no question you're not

happy that's the problem question if you and I could actually just cuz you've been in a situation if you propose to a

woman she says no is their relationship automatically over no that's a great

question no no it's not over so what more you need help we don't even

talk about what you know no I just said no man did I do some [ __ ] [ __ ] I'm

trying to save my relationship it's the mall what I learned is what I learned is

that most people that are proposing right like I learned about premarital

counseling and how much of a necessity it is for certain certain couples and certain

people so it's like common practice certain people propose and then they go

to premarital counseling to make sure they're ready for their bath encounter through marriage so you kind of deal

with all the [ __ ] that was pre-existing mm-hmm I know me me speaking personally me and Cyn didn't really hit a good

stride until we wouldn't if we went to see some money as well so I mean and once we did that it helped me to better understand her helped her to better

understand me that clip last night was before we went to see somebody they're gonna show us seeing somebody but and watching I was like Jesus how could you

not see your point but you gotta get out of your own way so you could see somebody else's point so that's gonna

come but yeah I can see it I know you

premarital counseling it took me by surprise too I was shocked that so many people were that guy was common practice common

practice but the same things same things that are the same way that most people

view therapy saying with premarital counseling some people only go to therapy when when they feel like they

need it like they feel like it's not a constant that need to be a constant thing same I view premarital counseling

the same way in what I've learned in recent morphs anyway I don't know me that's tough to the best stuff to still

be with your lady if you propose and she says no I think that stuff well I'm sure

she's the reason yes actually you would try to figure out what that reason is because it totally changes the

relationship after that like the relationship is different now the energy is different

okay if you get if I don't think it goes and she's no proposing look wait you're ready to spend the rest of your life

well no duh but that you know she should have had these discussions maybe with her yeah if she said if she said no

things were pre-existing like it didn't change things like when I proposed to uh

shorty due up and she said no it wasn't such a shock we weren't talking to each other we

weren't together it wasn't warranted no there was some production [ __ ] in play like that was

producer Joe I don't think she recognized it mom and she had some other grandiose plans about how things would

go afterward and it just didn't play out that way but so what that was she I was producer Joe talking to somebody who

ain't spoke to and mom today wasn't really flying so what they edited out

was she said no and you said let me produce you trust me man go with the

flow oh that is disgusting and toxic

you know you down tonight how many of you what that question will you marry me

are you down or not well that's why which I always tell my earlier with some of the songs they just wouldn't be allowed right now like back in the day

it was common practice to see if you could get somebody to come back to the crib everything about that sounds nasty

right now yeah like why you trying to go to your place well especially cuz she doesn't know either there's a home's you

don't know you Nance he's trying to club and dancing her girls you some drinks and [ __ ] call it a night head to work

creep nasty ass but that's the other thing about canceled culture and not not

to rewind two hours earlier but like there's no test to take for some of the

people to tell if some people are reputable in that like y'all just

represent engines aren't as pure as as yours there's a lot done back here I

won't do it now because I'm [ __ ] but there it stands its dance um what else

happened that we need to talk about our Kelly dockets consume my entire life for the past week so I can't wait till we do

our Saturday podcast where we can joke and be immature about things that have happened within the culture yeah do you guys watch the national championship

yesterday since we were on sports yeah what we're doing taking it to saving yeah

at two hours and 11 minutes I think Saban talk is okay that wide receiver kid is nice Ross yeah Justin Ross is

nice nice all right man you [ __ ] thank

you a [ __ ] fair I thought I saw I saw a Vince Young versus ready [ __ ] man liner so I mean I will instruct what you

want me to do amazing yeah the best game of my life like I don't care when X 8 was doing like beating his ass yeah he's

great he keeps winning Clemson Azir that guy's ass out of here same record same amount of national championships within

the last four years like I understand I know we couldn't view anybody as a

dynasty outside Alabama and saving but yeah Clemson's here yeah Clinton's here

and they let us know they were here with the [ __ ] my tribute I like that I'm missing they

said uh hey if you are they said uh if you were recruit out there you tired of

the coach it's all in the locker room before the game after game after were

number four tired of the coaches all it come over here whatever they said like

though well that kid the wide receiver kids from Alabama the state of Alabama's

got it got it got it lost out he's nice he's nice here he's nice and that Clemson true freshman

quarterback is real nice yeah yeah Lawrence well they're but Ross is a true freshman as well right yeah oh yeah tell

me about this [ __ ] to a kid and then he get out there and stink it up was to

the degree that they spoke spoke of a mission and got outdone by by the true freshman yeah well I feel like it was

another big happening in sports that we needed to this Oh up come here give me a Super Bowl pics I mean that Super Bowl

but there's playoff pics ah you were high on slow down you were high on the Ravens I was high on Lamar Jackson you

thought the rookie would go out there and the bright lights of playoff action and atmosphere and perform I did he had

been doing it for weeks practice walking mom I was gonna be a

play you running quarterbacks it's the playoffs dogs I mean it's true and the charges I think are legit but the

charges have also fumbled the ball in the playoffs a million times so I was like on the fence with them but they

look they look good this year Colts pulled out coach look I Colts look real good more dangerous than I thought going

into the playoffs yeah well no they look real good towards the end of the season and training it was Houston but I still

didn't think they was gonna get busy I thought Houston being at home and having more weapons Hoonah came out in that game but cuz that game was different

than me in a row before you guys getting a vibe sports people out there I know

you guys hate when we talk about sports because we don't know anything about sports boy thanks that's not gonna stop us from talking about she did we don't

know anything about so are you guys I got chargers Chiefs and Saints

and the Rams yeah all favorites I think I was gonna say it's a safe or well know that the charges are really a favorite

against the Patriots that's gonna be a good game actually I like all the games this

weekend me too and all the wild card games really hey when I can't talk to you the cowboy fans yeah I had them one

in that game though I wasn't sure that was a pickup for me their defenses elite at home anywhere

all right watch this week Chelsea tell me if is elite this week I bet it's not a high scoring game unless playoffs I'm

thinking will be yeah I don't think will be I think that uh I saw some tweets saying hey girlie get ready for the hot

boys they're cold I didn't know that I wouldn't be shocked if that was one

thing and I'm not a Dallas fan so I mean if that's their name I don't want to be disrespectful but news flash out there

in my humble opinion I think girl he's ready for the hot boys yeah well I think girls coming out to God boys should be

noticeably prepared Dallas Dallas linebackers it's not getting nasty there's you'd be ready for girly girly

and the hot boys they will be there linebackers nice that rookie kids idiot

listen I'm just trying to stay PC on here you're toxic that's toxic and the

second they come for us you're the first uh you're my first expenditure [Laughter]

this is always [ __ ] up cuz mole don't even be paying attention to the podcast he'd be on his phone and he's just laugh at something get out here is there

anything coming up this weekend or [ __ ] that we need to be aware of outside of

the playoffs or whatever root or magazine like really important happening I tried to pay I tried to pay the

government tax money and they told me that they were closed all right Noby I

found so much irony in it I found I got such a laugh out of me actually trying

to pay some [ __ ] that I didn't want to pay and then I'm saying no not right now

talk about God teaching you just some resilience and patience and willpower all right now you got to put money to

the side and just wait leave it that is so trashy it in one way another they're

gonna get it yeah I know that's one of Wesley Snipes deal didn't care about

bleed we do we think J Cole listen to

our podcast oh wow

well J Cole put up a picture I'm intake Heath which is from my look like they

were like they were listen it's in a podcast and then home when you thought

about everything that I said about Jake Oh see that's the thing that consumers will never get that I tried to talk

about it here it's just different when rappers are talking to and about rappers it's very different it's different from

the rappers that you all like to hear on a song and then rappers haven't actually go in the studio and record with that

rapper is different pressure could be get tense don't get the wrong rapper angry at you um some rappers you got to

be on your [ __ ] a-plus game stepless to deal with and if I'm just looking at J Cole's picture with take Heath I was

here she smoked might be coming your way are see

no I'm it's our yes jokowi seconds ago

wasn't coal was in the picture would take Keith and he didn't have a shape up

they were staring at a monitor mmm and it was I felt like I just needed

to peruse my brain to make sure that I didn't say anything that could affect him in a negative light yeah yeah I can

see why you would do that and on top of that because cold is from

the home school where they heard you yeah they're gonna tell you they heard you it's not gonna acknowledge you cuz

you're a bum so they're gonna make sure you know oh oh no ya may know go mouth

buggin out

I'm so so sensitive keeping it light I mean for the culture everybody on the

know what's scarier to is he's also around a bunch of other rappers in there too who are also feeding his competitive

nature of getting you the [ __ ] out of here he's sitting next to crit he's sitting next to reason he's sitting next

to ji d he's sitting next to cause like there's people that rap words together next to him yeah during all of this

you're a trouble job I want to tell you my psychology and while I'm afraid to Keith you Gibby

again I get into the psychology record do you I used to be young enough of

Memphis right you're not from like down here mm-hmm so this shouldn't hit y'all a certain way and when I first heard your song I

hated his song and I hated the song because it was such a simple song it was just like a bass line and a beat and a

doom-doom doom-doom and that's why I'm scared to Keith because why would you

make this and just know that we will jam to it this simple ass [ __ ] you made it

and said hit y'all will dance stand up I

won't be alert alive oh I was happy to see that pictured I'm not gonna lie Kol

that should be cool they think in themselves ten days then they call is not about to play with Rorion parks for

the things that they say yeah the disrespect of the dreamville nation if

that's what you want to call me defending him against you we can roll with that that is what I'm excited for

me too I wanna do my own is geared I don't you cry Twitter is elder I'm not

writing with Griselda I would say no

more than how was your first start about

now being wifed what 10 years in the

game a wife nothing you can't rap no

more Joe I'm convinced that some boys

may know said that he's not really retired retired stupid a joke come take

a pic by the board I my dogs yes let me tuck my scarf if I don't know why but I

want to be trash didn't want to rap no but you don't want to be trash though

why don't I don't think it's humanly possible listen let's be clear you don't want that I think that most of my ex

Pierce what I'm capable of if I get angry agree outside of that in

retirement part of the great thing about retirement is I'm trying not to get angry like I don't wanna rap I one thing

about rats I'm one here none that's gonna inspire me to rap I want a new rap earning is that's real nice and wrap to wrap it me so to make me want to rap like chill out

like just all I rap shit' was just therapy therapeutic [ __ ] I'm just trying to be

happy wait - trying to cool out sixteenth when they take Keith drop drops you up on you

or : you know I'm Way too old when he

was saying so what but it's old [ __ ]

that you could come out of retirement and dislike you got a chill you gotta go brush it up oh yeah you can't say he

said like he said so what to me like five times I was helpless standing there

like yo damn the rapper in me don't let other [ __ ] say this to me but let's

have a good time hey do say let's just

enjoy the moment I don't think anything else happened this week the spice of wars dot our Kelly dog the Joe [ __ ]

and out the Joe whatever dressing is [ __ ] dirty past like hope I was able

to use my plight as a teachable moment two young men out there man don't tweet

[ __ ] when you're breaking up with people yeah that's good advice uh don't tweet

[ __ ] or use your your socials to hurt other people yeah um make sure you're

always representing yourself in the best light possible make sure your words and

your actions and your behaviors are always aligned and in unison and just

make sure you always represent yourself the best way you would like to I know for a long time a lot of us said I don't

give a [ __ ] I don't give a [ __ ] I was the chairman of that [ __ ] phrase but that's why that's why age is great and

that's what maturation is great because as you get older you care about more and you are

afraid of a lot more very different from going outside when you were a kid without house keys a phone and money

today I'm scared of mad things I'm

frightened I'm horrified up here I'm just trying to live as we all are man

shout to everybody out there just trying to get by child to everybody out there starting positive movements to

positively affect the community shout out the people that are continuing these conversations past documentaries and

passages social media [ __ ] to shout to everybody that's invested it does feel

good it's good that we're in a different time is good that we can have these conversations it's good that we can challenge one another it's all good

everything happening right this second is good and hopefully our work today

leads to a better tomorrow all our forefathers and ancestors could have ever asked for that's my piece on that if you are

looking to cancel Joe Budden at the end of this podcast as a result of something you heard guess what you reserve that

right you reserve the right to do so but

hopefully I was able to add a little more information and if you heard me properly hopefully you wouldn't believe

the same way I don't believe that some of that stuff was out there hopefully you wouldn't believe on that that that's

how I'm woven out it's just not the case now what's happening and let's be responsible with our power our agenda

our peers there was that well said did I get us in trouble I think we're okay if

they cancel me to cancel y'all so protect me nobody's getting cancelled man all right good good good nobody on

this platform yes Amy the earring for that one

anything we're leaving out Rory will even out Rory and I look to save on and

see if there was something he's not even there running amok if we're running amok

oh I think that was everything for the week man if this is your first time

tuning in to this podcast I promise you we're not normally this serious so mature before yeah we'll be back

well have fun this weekend we'll be back we'll have a good time I hope it snows this weekend Sunday snows a lot not not

not what you like you are you you want you don't want to see your [ __ ] backyard I don't see anything to see the

yard just watch that channel I do winces [ __ ] until the next time please please

please keep us in your prayers lord knows we need to be there until the next

time I bid you adieu all right