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Yeah, I'm in a real silly mood. Don't

pay me no more. I had a rough morning.

Hold on, let me hit the drop.

The whole world saw that.

I didn't think it was that I didn't

think it would be such a popular clip uh

the dudes.

No wor.

Yo, now I think about it.

The Infamous is one of my favorite,

maybe my favorite rap album ever. And

Havoc gave us the same drum pattern on

every record. Sounds so damn.

All right. So now this podcast has

existed for three years and I know two

of the members favorite hip-hop album of

all time.

I've said it on this podcast.

I know. But the infamous for you I know

but now I'm remembering the infamous for

you. Doggy style for parks mall. What's

yours?

Favorite rap album.

Yeah. Ever made? All time.

Wait, is it favorite or best?

That's a good question cuz doggy style

is the best. I don't know if it's my

favorite.

Infamous is not the best. It's my

favorite.

Parks thinks Doggy Style is the best.

He has a good argument. You're saying

Infamous is your favorite?

Favorite, not the best.

All right, forget it. Forget it. Never

mind.

My favorite is probably like 36 Shavers

or Infamous. Probably one of them two.

I'm not mad at Park saying that Doggy

Style is the best

rap album. That's Yeah, I'm not mad. I

can't really I would I would I would

probably go Chronic.

That's me. But

I was always more of a doggy style than

Chronic.

I'm think more. I have to think more.

Yeah I

uh Lowend theory.

It's up there. It's up there. Just

trying to think that has everything.

I think we could do a list of albums

that should probably even be in that

argument

of best album

ever.

Best hip-hop album ever.

Yeah. Chronic doggy style.

You know the ones.

Please don't flood our mentions tomorrow

with telling us how

how we forgot one. This is not a plan.

This is not a docket. We're just

freestyling right now. This is off the

top. Nothing written down.

How the [ __ ] you forgot? Ready to die.

All right. So, let's see. Microphone

check. One, two. What is this? I'm

looking at Savon. Savon's looking at the

television. My man, what episode?

My [ __ ] guy. All right, welcome

to the Joe Button podcast. Episode 216.

I'm your host Joe Button here with a few

of my nearest and dearest friends. Maul

is here. Parks is here. Erikson is here.

Rory is here. Savon is here. Uh, Faint

to my left is Rocky and Johnny

somewhere. And those are near dear

friends as well since y'all say I don't

never tell y'all who's here. Now, how is

everyone doing? Just for some more added

context, Maul is dressed amazingly. I

don't want to spend too much time on

that cuz we do have some things to talk

about, but you have you you have on a

corduroy hat

that you have matched with the hatching

in your jeans

which I believe is a hockey team and I

don't know what's called again. What's

this called?

That's fray.

Yeah, you got a lot of fray.

I had never seen you with this much

fray.

I love I love There's supposed to be a

hole, but then it's patched up with more

denim

because it's too cold for a hole.

Oh, it's cold outside. It's cold out

there.

Got to patch that up.

How could work?

Wow.

Only Mo would be too too cool to have a

hole in his jeans. So, he just put some

jeans.

Yeah. Put some material under. I I made

these.

That's why.

Yeah.

Yeah. showing.

You did.

I know. Thank you.

All right. Uh, so what else is going on?

How How feeling? Everybody's good.

I want my hat on. I I feel better joking

on [ __ ] with my hat right behind you.

Savon, how do you feel that Rocky is

taking your seat today?

My hat behind you, [ __ ]

Savon, I've been thinking about you all

week Paul.

Nasty, nasty Van.

What's up, man? How's your week been?

Uh,

young young Donald.

Uh, Savon, formerly known as the Don

Donless Don. D back. How long?

A year.

A year,

fam. I don't know.

A year. A year at least.

I I don't know, fam. That was a That was

a wild infraction.

It was a little nuts. Yeah, it it was

Did you fight intern?

No. How did I got like 30 30,000?

All right. I don't care enough about

your

30 million.

Anyway, uh welcome welcome to Joe Button

podcast. How's everybody doing? Y'all

good?

Good.

Great. I'm great.

I'm cool.

Saw the gang last night. Gang. gang

gang. We had a little road trip podcast

road trip.

Road trip downtown.

Yeah.

Went in a road trip. I went there.

Didn't call none of y'all. Didn't tell

none of y'all by myself.

When you text me and said you was in

there, I was dying laughing. I was like,

"Wait,

why did you think that was so funny that

I'm in?"

Because I didn't think in the tough.

Well, I thought that if you were going

to a grisel,

I would hit the Mixie Boys.

You would at least hit me and say, "Yo,

you was going

or let me know you were going." But you

hit me. You was already like lamped in

there like,

"Yeah, I'm in my element. I'm in the

element."

Oh, no. I respect you. want to be in

there with friends.

I respected it.

I wanted to walk in with me,

right?

Say what up.

Okay.

And be around that.

You did,

Mo. I was telling I was telling the guys

um and shout out to uh the Ogres, man.

Everybody and and and I'm I'm missing

names cuz boy, the [ __ ] that opened up

some of them [ __ ]

I like that Ray Rose kid a lot.

Who the [ __ ] was them Far Rock [ __ ]

Listen bro.

Super dope. Mini Riot Squad.

Mini Riot Squad is nice.

Yeah. And I and I don't want to mess up

his name, but I I believe Wes was saying

Lord something. Lord,

I'm sorry if I'm tall guy, right?

No, that was the uh the Spanish dude.

Yeah,

he was spitting. But the tall dude was

nice.

Yo, the tall dude that was downstairs.

And I hate that we don't know their

names, but forgive us, man.

I thought he was the shooter the whole

time. I look up, this [ __ ] is

spitting the illst 16 ever.

On stage. I was like, "Wait, oh, you

rap?"

No, that was the shooter still.

Yeah, he's still a shooter.

I think he mentioned that in his bar.

Yeah, he told you. Yo, I don't rap.

I I'm the shooter.

I know. I think Ray wrote your mother

say,

"Don't get your mother shot."

I was like, "Well, listen. If there's

anybody I don't want to get shot, it's

my mom."

I love my mom.

Yeah, I love my mom.

But, you know, last night last night

side note before when we're speaking of

mothers, Miss Fay definitely pressed me

via text and told me, "Yo, Joe ain't Joe

ain't no middle child."

Yeah, she pressed me.

I was like, "My bad, Miss Fay."

Yeah, she pressed me, too. I was like,

you know, I was like, I started to tell

Joe to call you. She said, "You should

have."

She she pressed me and I argued with her

about you being the middle child.

I said, "Well, technically kind of like

I'm the youngest uh of your kids and I'm

the oldest of my dad kids."

Average.

And she said, "That's not a middle

child."

Okay. She has a point, but if we're

fine, you win.

Yeah. You can't argue with my

I abandoned that one.

But anyways, yes, last night. Go ahead.

Last night, a few quick thoughts. Last

night, I'm late to the party. Don't

judge me, please. Did I introduce

podcast?

Yes, you did.

All right, great. A few quick thoughts.

Um,

yeah, about some of them opening dudes.

Yeah, this sauce thing, right? I'm old

and trash. So, sometimes I don't get it.

I figured out why. You got to see sauce.

Very different from lyricism, which you

have to hear.

Yeah,

sauce you can't really hear. You could,

but [ __ ] are fake that. You have to

see it. Some of them opener [ __ ] that

didn't really rap. They was just street

[ __ ]

Yeah,

they had a lot of sauce. They was

saucing all over that [ __ ]

I was I was telling Wes I like that um

that Ray Rose kid a lot. I like the

stage.

I think he's talking about the same

person I'm talking about homeboy. The

short [ __ ]

short brownkin kid.

I like this man.

Yeah,

man. The homeboy was chopping up. We got

a podcast. We talking

shout out to Far Rock cuz they

represented yesterday.

They were It was a good show, man. Super

proud of Benny. Tanner Talk 3 sounds

amazing live.

That might be the most packed I ever

saw.

So I was gonna say that was a moment.

Yeah, I know we kind of joking around.

That was a moment for New York.

Yeah, it was.

I haven't seen I've been going to so

since I was like 14, right?

I've never seen so and that's like real

grimy hip-hop.

Yeah.

Benny is making it hard for the guys who

do that.

Yeah.

The whole team.

That's what I'll say.

Yeah.

Yeah. All of them.

Yeah.

But to have like Benny's like Banks,

right?

Yeah. That's a good comparison. That's

That's how I look at it. Like it's the

squad

and then it's Benny.

Like

[ __ ] they said it.

They said it last night stage.

Yeah.

But I feel like this the best rap in the

universe. That's what they said.

Yeah.

Yeah. And Yeah. God damn. You're

supposed to feel like that.

But um they they had the Coons out

there, the suburban kids out there, the

rap legends, the [ __ ]

man. How much dick we sucking, man.

Let's move on.

12 minutes in. We got a great podcast.

Pause more. You know what I'm saying? Um

uh and the other thing was I have a new

appreciation for venues with no women

that type of music.

You need that you need sometimes you

need that. You need sometimes you need

that you need that energy sometimes.

Sometimes it's not always about the

women around.

Yeah.

Got to be around some [ __ ] that'll

[ __ ] shoot your [ __ ] head off.

Boy, it feels good, man. Hold on. Let me

get a gunshot. We can't just talk. We

got gunshots, man.

It felt felt good to be around some

danger.

Oh my god. Danger. Danger in New York.

Yeah. via Buffalo. Yes.

Good night. That was a good night for

Gilda.

Oh, it was great. Great. Shout out.

Shout out to all of them. Now, uh, where

do you guys want to start? Where? Oh.

Oh, you wanted to start with jokes on

me right?

No, I I was concerned for you. I saw it

was

You said no, but you start. This is

jokes.

Joe Button verse the hospital. I was

just making sure you was

right.

He was smoking at the hospital. You

can't

I know my [ __ ] man.

That's what happened.

That's not what happened.

That's what happened.

Yo, I'm always y with you cuz you know

me so well. You think I could see

I think I was in the hospital and lit a

cigarette.

Yes.

Wait, hold on Mo. You didn't see his

press release in the shade room comments

cuz he put a press release out.

Yo, bro [ __ ] clocking me.

You put a press release out. I did not

press

cuz they don't [ __ ] with my baby no

more. So I got to talk.

What did you say?

Don't touch me.

What did you say?

A leave my baby alone. God damn it.

Anyway, what happened?

What happened? Why? What was the

altercation about?

Uh, well, it depends who you ask.

I'm asking the guy involved in

altercation.

Uh, it was about it was about it was a

lot of racial dynamics

going on there. I mean, that's how I

felt. So, I mean,

but we could joke about it because it

was really about a cigarette, but I

mean, if I obsess over it like I do on

my head, it wasn't really about a

cigarette.

So, you was smoking in the hospital?

No. Um,

you can't smoke even like outside the

hospital.

Let's not start there. Let's Let's make

But let's not start there. We got a lot.

So, let's let's let's let's start

somewhere.

Crust Street.

I I would like to talk about I I'll walk

you through my story. Um and it's a

little I'll try to not make it so long,

but this my story is about how quick

life can turn.

Okay?

It's about how how quickly like in a

millisecond everything can just go

different and you have to be grateful at

all times, right? And you have to

sometimes be reminded of this just

throughout your journey. Yesterday,

uh, I told y'all a while back I went to

go see a house that I can't afford.

Sounds fun.

One day on this podcast, I would like to

talk to y'all about purchasing houses

because I feel like a lot of our

audience

is probably venturing into that same

thing.

Yeah,

but that's not right to say.

I hope so.

Right. Yeah, you are. I mean, you are.

We are. We are. So, we should talk about

it right?

I never really talked to Ian Savon. I

have spoken to you about that, Savon.

Why don't we TALK TO SEE, WE should talk

about that. Listen,

first I just want to make this clear.

I'm not going to Savon's house.

Wow.

Savon's house. Your house woman will be

empty.

I kind of want you to do your job from

like outside now, but you here now. So,

matter of fact, go out this window and

just yell.

Always look at me in my face, my [ __ ]

I'm [ __ ] with you, Savvon. Um,

what was I just saying?

Uh,

oh, about buying houses, but we'll get

to that at some point. So, I told you I

went to go look at a house that I had no

business looking at. I'll speed the

story up a little bit. So, the house was

so amazing that I, of course, I came

back with my mom. I came back with my

mom, took my fiances, you know, came

back the kid, nanny, let's do it. All

go. Let's look again, right? So,

you brought the nanny.

Yeah.

Okay.

Was that like a serious business?

Weird flex, but okay.

Yeah.

Bring the nanny to a place you can't

afford. Yeah, that's a flex.

Well, if you bring the nanny, they might

think you can afford it.

Could backfire.

Your logic is crazy.

Wait, you want to look like the [ __ ]

who can't afford it? No,

bring the nanny is like crazy.

Come on, nanny. Bring the kid. Let's

make him smile.

You can't have the nanny and then say,

"Yo, give me a deal."

Or the [ __ ]

let no fire come down.

Well, first of all, my nanny look like

she be my cousin. So, let's be clear.

Okay. Um, but the damn [ __ ] memory.

Where's that hand in the [ __ ] door?

All right. So, we went to see a house.

Uh,

my my mom didn't feel well in the house.

So, as soon as we left that house, I

rushed to the hospital.

And that's what I'm just talking about.

and how fast things could change in what

was supposed to be a moment and where

you go with your mom and do that type of

you know that all

that didn't happen at all. So we rushed

I rushed my mom rushed my mom to the

hospital. So this morning I went to go

see my mom in the hospital.

She all right.

Yeah. How's how's she doing?

She is all right. And if she wasn't all

right, I wouldn't say it on this

podcast.

Um I think y'all would know she she

wasn't all right. Y'all would see me.

That's true.

Y'all y'all would know me. It would be

dark.

Yeah. Um so mom is all right. So I went

there, went in the morning, had my talk

with my mom, right? I leave, come

downstairs. Soon as I step outside of

the hospital, I light my cigarette.

Okay.

As a smoker would,

right?

Um but homeboy must have been watching

me. Know what I mean? Cuz as soon as I

took three steps, he was right next to

me

and he said, "Pardon me, you can't smoke

right here." But like mad aggressive,

but I I'm late to the party, so I didn't

realize that he said it aggressive.

So I don't care. All right. Well, where

can you smoke? Like I'm just trying to

smoke on the street off the campus.

All right. Like I'm gonna go that way.

So I start walking that way with my

cigarettes.

And well, first of all, what's the

campus at the hospital?

You know, when they work there, you want

to use the work terminology, [ __ ] This

the ground still. We at the hospital.

They say campus.

So as I'm walking to go to the car to

smoke to the street to where he says you

could smoke, he's following me. But I

don't know that he's following me.

Mhm. until maybe like like I'm walking

far and now you're walking far too and

you work here, [ __ ] So So I turn

around and I say, "Are you following

me?" And he said, "Yeah." And I said,

"Why

podcast fam?"

And he said, "Because you can't smoke on

the grounds." And I said, "But I'm not

I'm leaving the grounds." He said, "Oh

no, this was the other part." He said,

when he first approached me, he said,

"You can't smoke right here. And what

are you doing outside?

What?

That's the part that I forgot. He said,

"What are you doing outside?" And I

said, "Huh?" And he said, "Yeah, get

back inside. You're a patient, right?"

And I just turned around and walked

away. And that's when he followed me.

So, I did try to walk away.

I did try to not mind you, I have on the

same It's the morning, so I threw on

some sweats and put on the coat I had on

last night, which is that long ass loud

Gucci [ __ ] coat that's beautiful and

expensive. A

weird flex, but okay. Well, I'm not

trying to flag, but why would you think

that's an in impatient person?

Mhm.

Well, but first of all, even if you a

patient, what is that his business?

Well, I would think that's his business.

Just impatient. If you're impatient, you

can't leave the premises. That is that

is his business.

That's not a jail, dog.

Listen, long story less long, I got to

the street and that [ __ ] was still

right there. So then I turned around and

I said, "Okay, I have no choice but to

record this now cuz I know me and I know

you." So, let me just tape. And then I

taped and that was that. And then I

stopped taping. I asked them what time

they got off. They didn't tell me. They

told me I would be banned from the

hospital. I said, "All right, I'll be

back here in a couple hours." Blah blah

blah. Then the clip went up. Uh they got

called into HR and

HR at the hospital.

Well, my cousin works at the hospital.

Mhm.

My cousin works at the hospital. I just

took pictures with the whole [ __ ]

anonymous floor that I won't say what

floor it was,

right?

Like what did you think was going to

happen? I'm sorry. that y'all don't know

me and just look at me like the stupid

black scum of the earth [ __ ] But

nah, you got some some [ __ ] got a

little power,

especially when I'm dealing with that

your type of white. Your type of white

is not the type like not not you.

Not not not flashlight cop white. No,

no, you can't have that privilege.

Okay,

so that's what happened.

Oh yeah, little misunderstanding.

That is all it I didn't hit him. Didn't

touch him. That's good. We're 20 minutes

in.

That's cool. Yeah. So, that's what

happened. So,

everybody was DMing me like, "Yo, check

on Joe."

I would love to make jokes about it, but

I'm I, you know, when I obsess over

things, you know, my mind goes to what

made this white man feel comfortable

following a [ __ ] that he know he can't

beat.

He could have had the pepper spray.

He know he can't beat me.

He got a flashlight though.

He know he can't beat me with that

flashlight.

No, just to shine it in your eyes to

throw you off.

I could beat him without my eyes.

What if he was

a like blood sport? What if he was like

one of them secret MMA fight?

You love that movie, Joe. You want to be

in that

[ __ ] I'll be hating, man. You mad I

could fight blind.

Did you audition for that [ __ ]

That was your movie.

They so mad I could fight blind.

That was your movie going blind.

Yeah. All right. You might have been one

of the MMA fighters and caught you.

So yeah. So when I left, I was angry

that I handled it that way. But good.

That means I did the right thing cuz

you're supposed to feel bad when you do

the right thing.

Yeah. All right. All right. So,

misunderstanding. That's all. Yeah.

Yeah.

I thought you was somewhere whing, but

no.

No. No. I don't Wow. No more. I don't

wow no more. You thought the Tanner talk

had me

feeling yourself a little bit.

Tanner talk had me ready to dump the

guard.

I just saw a video of you at the

hospital with security in your face. I

don't know what's going on.

No, no, no, man. Speaking of videos,

real quick. All right. So, the

government is open. 21 minutes in. Great

podcast. The government is open. Round

of applause. Hold up.

Yeah.

Round of applause. The government is

open

temporarily. I kind of thought that

temporarily for 3 weeks, but they going

to figure it out. I kind of thought it

would open now because real easy to miss

one paycheck when they can start missing

two.

A little tough.

So when they when they re do they double

back on what they're owed?

Yeah. Depending on for the people that

are employees, yes. But for contractors,

no.

Okay.

Uh I heard a lot of people asking why

would people go to work when they're not

getting paid?

So they can keep their job.

Well, no. I would think that the people

that have these governmentissued jobs

don't really have it for the pay. They

have it for the perks and the benefits.

So, you don't you don't want to lose you

don't want to lose that even if you're

not being paid. So,

there I feel like I saw something about

uh certain occupations could be arrested

for not showing up to work, too.

I don't I don't want the job that can

arrest me if I don't come.

I agree. Don't

And that job got to have great benefits.

Don't come to this. Don't come to the

podcast one day. See what Spotify don't

show up to your door

with green handcuffs.

Neon green handcuffs.

Green handcuffs.

Neon green cuffs.

You think you think that's what Spotify

do?

I think they would.

If they don't get that work.

Yeah, for sure.

Damn. I never really thought about that.

You better start thinking

corporate thugging.

Yeah.

I don't think I think they like I think

they like us.

No, they not playing. No, they like us.

You better have our ass here. Better

have your ass at work. Believe that.

Why our [ __ ] disappearing from certain

[ __ ] [ __ ] They got

me.

That's a fact cuz [ __ ] be at me like,

"Yo, where's it at?" Like, "Where's

what?"

Yeah, goddamn. Let me get a gunshot.

Like, if you think we're coders for

Spotify, I don't know why you hit me,

fam. Delete I'm delete the app and try

it again, bro. That's all I can tell

you.

Restarted. Turn it on and off.

Yeah, that's the best I got.

Is there something? Where Where do y'all

want to start this podcast?

Unplug the app.

Yeah, unplug it.

Restarted, Joe. I don't know where you

been.

Thanks, Parks. I appreciate that. Well,

what topic do you would you like to

start with?

What's what's on your little list?

You want to get in the middle child

first? Will that rev your engines

based based off of that record? How do

you feel? What do you think is coming?

The album.

Oh, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

This is I'm not You're not start I'm not

starting like

Okay, Rory, based off you want to start

with this?

Yeah absolutely.

Right in the the middle child.

Absolutely.

All right, y'all go ahead.

Absolutely. Based off the record, Rory,

how you feel?

Uh, wait a timeout. Before Rory says a

word, before Rory talks, cuz I'm not

going to interrupt Rory when he talks.

Let's have like a Let's have during this

discussion, let's have like a

transparent meter

where we're going to give our like

transparent answer and then our fake

answer.

What you mean our fake answer?

No. All right, let's let's be

transparent cuz Joe thinks if you give

credit to anybody, you're lying.

Come on.

That we know. We know that already

though. I ran for my friends.

The moment you say something is good,

like you're lying and

Yeah, Rory's deflecting.

Yeah.

No, no, that's a fact. That's not You

are actually

deflecting at all.

You know what? I'm deflecting. You guys

got it.

Yeah. Well, go ahead. I want to hear

uh I like the record.

I don't think it needed that big ass

roll out for the record. He put some

sauce on.

He did. And I can't hate on people

marketing their record to get people to

listen to it because that sounds nuts.

Yo, he's been talking for 20 seconds and

he's back and forth. You can hate You

can't hate that, Rory.

Why would I hate for someone to try to

get noticed to their record?

Because of what you said right before

that.

It didn't need it.

Why? Why would I hate that? Like,

I'm saying

should people should people market their

records?

Go. I'm

Dreamville, who does really good at

marketing.

Yeah, go ahead.

Um I thought I thought it was a good

record. I just didn't think it it really

needed. I think this record that record

would have done what it's done already

without this whole wild roll out.

The marketing just didn't match.

I'm going be dancing around saying that

the marketing hurt the record.

No.

No. Everyone listen.

Did the marketing hurt the record?

It worked. No.

No. Joe, the point of the marketing is

to get people to click it. And that's

what happened.

I don't I think

if you're saying people thought maybe

some more wild he was going to start

saying

the point of marketing to get somebody

to click it.

Yeah.

In 2019. Yes. the [ __ ] it is.

I'll say this. I'll say this. I don't

think that JCole needed to market that

record.

I think it would have done the whole

invites, everybody going down to

Dreamville, all that's for the album.

Yeah, that but that was like enough for

me. He could have just put that [ __ ]

out.

I agree. I think everything from

Dreamville leading up to Cole putting

out a song, everyone's clicking that

regardless.

Yeah.

If he was saying names on that [ __ ]

then I would have understood the whole

thing.

Here's my thing. Why [ __ ] not saying?

Yo, he's so mad. No one's hating right

now.

But why? Why? Furious.

No. Why? When I could just add hate.

Why? Why? I'm I'm getting ready to

insert hate. You talk.

[ __ ] is you talking about, [ __ ] I got

hate.

We're going to get some hate this

podcast. You think we're just going to

sit here and Hey, I mean, hated how it

was marketed, but I understand why it

was marketed that way. I mean, you got

to market, but I mean, I wouldn't have

marketed it that way, but I understand

why they decided to I'm going to hate.

Just because you put on here to hate.

You're here to hate.

Exactly. Let me hate.

I'm I'm letting you hate. I'm

No, no. Lori Love,

I'm just saying I don't think it needed

that.

I like the record. I thought it was a

good record.

You was saying more than that, dog.

Yeah, it was cool. The record was all

right. Record's all right.

It didn't It didn't like, you know, it

wasn't nothing that I'm just like I I

didn't listen to it today at all.

Yeah.

So, it's like, you know what I mean?

didn't really

I listened to it two or three times like

a

Yeah, it was

I I get that Cole is from the last album

trying to stick with the kids and I

appreciate cuz we don't need old people

hating, but I I' I'd prefer Cole to just

be

Cole and not have to put the voice

filter and the talking about sipping and

trying to relate to the kids and the new

sound. Like I think you could just be

you.

I think it was what I thought it would

be. Cold can rap. We know that. Um, I

thought I was looking after that whole

marketing thing. I was expecting more. I

guess

I thought this was going to be like some

ill like,

you know, names were going to be thrown

out there and shots were going to be

fire. I mean, shots.

Oh, this is awesome. Wait, slow down.

Let's stop right there. Mo, why did you

feel that way?

Well, because marketing. You just said

that.

He said he was making a list of checking

it twice.

Yeah, we like that's why I said it could

have went without that marketing. This

song could have just came out.

Yeah, I was expecting and then and then

to find out that those were lyrics in

the record. I was like,

"All right, I got it. I got you. I got

you. I got you right now.

We here now.

Where we at?

The record.

I like it already.

Three words.

We know.

No, I'm agreeing with y'all. So, let me

make myself clear that I'm we all agree

that the marketing was off.

Stop right there. Look what he's doing.

Deflecting.

Backpedaling. Same [ __ ] You just

laughed at us.

No, I'm not. I'm about to get into

exactly why I was laughing at each

other. You're talking about you're doing

you're doing a president. I'm

just Hey, we all like the song.

No, you're cutting me off. No, I'm I

know I cut off my

I think my friend I think the audience

knows that I have no problem saying

what's trash. So, I don't care.

We're in different times now.

We all agree that it was that it was

marketed wrong. Don't drive. No, I can't

say. I'm not going to say it was market

to get people to

Okay, tell me what y'all are saying.

I I told you what I said. I don't think

it needed that. That's all I'm saying.

Uh, and then and then the way they

marketed it, I felt like it was going to

be like a a super. All right, enough of

y'all. Enough of y'all. Hey, audience.

This is the record that J.Cole dropped

after he told us that he was making a

list and checking it twice and

remembering everything that everybody

said and everybody, y'all in trouble.

I'm on it this way the whole year. I'm

better than all you. This is the record.

Now,

now that y'all are done, that is the

record. That's not That's not the whole

record.

You got You got to play the record.

You can't defend this.

I I'm not DEFENDING IT. I'M OKAY.

But I'm not talking about I don't want

us to judge the record yet.

We're going to go through all of this

together like a family. So stay with me.

I don't want us to judge the record. I'm

not talking about judging the record.

I'm only talking about the effects when

you improperly uh market something. when

you do it. This was

All right, y'all can have your opinions.

This was not the record to drop when you

say, "I'm making a list, checking it

twice. You [ __ ] is in trouble

to us that because that is the lyrics in

the US."

To us, you're right. Let's make that

very clear.

You're right. Yes, you're right. You're

right. You're right.

That's the lyrics. That's why

we are a small minority in that people

that care about every single word that

you're saying.

I didn't see to everyone else him taking

the shots, which we'll get to. I don't

want to go ahead, but him taking the

shots quote unquote aay to everyone that

fulfilled what the marketing campaign

was.

Parks

to some people.

Not to us.

Not to me. Yeah. Not to me. No. To some

people.

Question. I know. But speak to what

you're saying. Do you do you agree?

Yeah. I don't I didn't see. And I could

be wrong. Like tell me.

I did.

I didn't see a lot of that.

I saw I saw maybe

six No, it grew once the blog started

talking. speak. I'm speaking originally.

I saw maybe 15% of people even know that

he was talking about somebody at some

point in this record. All I'm saying is

like I just thought something more

aggressive was coming.

Yes.

I think I think everybody thought

I thought names were coming. I thought

I don't think it hurt to say I think a

lot of people thought something a little

more aggressive was coming.

No, no, absolutely. That's what I'm

saying. I agree.

And I ain't wrong in that. Cole gave me

that is what I'm saying.

Like I don't and that's where I disagree

with what you said, Parks. And and would

you say I don't I I don't think

marketing is just getting somebody to

click it like

in in 2019.

I don't think

we talking about Cole. Cole is not a

clicker. He

He is

Everybody's a clicker at this point.

That's I'm not taking away from Cole.

A clicker.

Everybody is.

Yeah. Everyone's clickbait.

Yeah.

Everybody wants you to click.

Hate you [ __ ] Is Kendrick [ __ ]

clickbait?

Yeah, everybody wants

They do click differently. They just do

it with more integity.

Everybody wants you to click on it with

more integity.

I don't understand. Like that's how you

I don't know where you walk to.

You You have to click.

Well, look out for the security guard.

And we're back.

You got to do that cuz now they be

knowing when parks punch.

That was a punching. You said I'm going

to have smoke

word.

Oh. All right. Listen. We have a lot of

[ __ ] to argue about. So that's what I'm

saying. You can't argue about the

difference between things that are

clickbait and things that are clickable.

That's what I'm saying.

Yeah. I think what we're I think what

we're saying is that

the line is blurred now in this era.

Let me reply

because you have to market things that

will be clicked and to some degree that

means clickbait.

What I'm saying what I'm saying to you

guys and is

Kendrick Kendrick and TDE those are some

of the people that we we hold to a

higher standard. Of course, they appear

to operate with a little more integrity

than just doing clickbait uh

microwavable [ __ ] right?

Cole to a large community is held at the

same regard.

I agree

that that's what I am saying.

So when you're held to that regard, that

standard

quick question

and that's the

was the control verse not clickbait.

No.

Okay.

Not at all.

How so? I don't even understand

because what what else was the verse

about?

So to me,

what define clickbait?

You put that in there.

I'm saying a bunch of names. So the

headline will be

that's not what clickbait is. Tell me

what clickbait is.

You can do something knowing that people

will take it and say Kendrick calls out

uh Drake, Push A, etc.

Right.

You can do things knowing that people

will take

Do y'all feel like this with y'all

saying?

Yeah.

Okay, I got it.

What made y'all click that record?

Everybody say

that's what clickbait is. That's what

clickbait is.

I can't say for us because we clicked it

because we love hiphop.

But that's

but the regular consumer clicked it

because he said Kendrick is always

Hey, check this out. When Joe speak,

it's always for Joe. I'm never speaking

for anybody else's interpretation of

something. Clickbait. I don't give a

[ __ ] I'm telling you about Joe.

Clickbait

is are is people doing [ __ ] to make you

click it. You heard that control verse

cuz you wanted to hear that song. And

then when you heard that song, it made

you do whatever you did. He didn't say a

[ __ ] word. He didn't say nothing. IT

WASN'T EVEN A SONG. HE DID WHAT SOMEBODY

asked him to do. Yo, come through. Put

this down. He put it down and left. No,

that's not clickbait. And I really don't

see how that's relevant to the point I'm

making. What JCole did, I'm not even

calling clickbait. I'm not I'm not

calling it clickbait.

What are you calling it? A bad roll out.

No,

that

So why a bad roll out?

Not a bad roll out because it worked. It

was a great roll out. It was a great

roll out.

My definition, I'm speaking to me.

The roll out don't just stop when the

record drop.

Okay.

The roll out doesn't just stop when the

record drops because then you deal with

and maybe that's the difference between

buyers remorse now.

No, I bought it.

But but at the same time,

I bought it and that's it. It's just not

what I thought I was getting because

fires remorse. I thought I was getting a

S550 and it wasn't that. The commercial

looked different. The teaser looked

different. The trailer looked different.

But there's nothing wrong with that.

There's nothing wrong. There's nothing

wrong. I'm just pointing out what he

knew because he knew that. He knew that.

And we going to talk about it later.

Everything I'm saying I can prove. I can

prove because later I'm going to start

talking about who I think he's talking

to. And then I'm going start asking

y'all how y'all feel about him talking

to who I think he talking to like this.

And then I want y'all to remember this

tone.

Okay.

Actually, let's do it now. Should he be

talking Hey, no. Should he be talking to

push? NO. NO. NO. BEFORE I GET THERE,

SHOULD HE BE TALKING TO PUSH LIKE THAT?

RORY. Rory McFarrell. I'm asking you.

Yeah [ __ ]

Yeah.

Mix.

Let me get rid of this.

That's actually That's actually a little

racist, but it's cool. Ailia Ben, relax.

The Mick. What was the Mick?

The Mick. Yeah, Mick is a is a

I'm sorry. I'm sorry to that. That could

be racist.

No, it is. It's a It's a slur.

I didn't mean it that way.

I know you didn't. I'm just trying to

make you

I'm sorry to the mix out there.

But before you get there, what you just

said, you're speaking for you. And what

we're saying is Cole was a superstar and

has to pander to everyone else. So yeah,

to us it's like we thought you was going

to call out names, but that marketing

[ __ ] is successful because everyone

clicked it. Like you kind of proved our

point.

Okay.

To us, of course. Yeah. I would have

loved

I can to y'all. I concede to y'all in

this point. Great roll out. Y'all are

right. It worked. We clicked it. We

heard it. How do y'all feel?

I told you already. I wasn't blown away.

It was

Yeah, I thought it was cool.

It was cool.

It was cool.

Stop before you say a word, Rory.

That's why I say that it was a bad roll

out

to us

because let me tell

you, let me just let me just say of

course he does. He don't give a [ __ ]

about us.

That's what I'm saying. So, what I'm

saying is, see, I asked Maul, "What did

What did you think of that song?" And he

didn't tell us what he thought of the

song. He told us what he didn't think of

the song. He that he only did that

because of how that song was marketed.

Okay.

Had JCole just dropped a song,

I would still feel the same way.

Of course, but you would tell me what

you think of the song. You wouldn't say

I wasn't blown away.

That's what I think of the song.

I know. But Parks did the very same

thing right after you. The very same

thing. That is a marketing thing. I

don't know if y'all know that or not,

but that is a marketing thing. It has

everything to do with marketing.

I don't disagree.

But anyways, we don't need to get caught

up in that. Mo wasn't blown away. Parks,

how you feel?

I wasn't blown away. Yeah, it was cool.

Rory, it was all right.

Like the song.

Job well done.

Uh, replay value for me.

Like it. I want to see how it does cuz I

think Cole was trying to make that song

to also see how it plays outside.

Not in the capacity that most JCole

records are. You're in your headphones

by yourself. No, because I don't think

Cole chases hits in at this point in his

career. I think he makes records and

thinks maybe this could cross over.

I think he made this thinking that

that hook in that first verse will be

played at the early part of the of the

party.

I hope I don't want to hear that.

I don't want to be at that party.

Just telling you what I what I think he

went into making that record.

I can tell by the filter. I can tell by

the by the chorus.

That record comes on a valet. I ain't

going to

I ain't going to hold you [ __ ] that

come on.

[ __ ] walked there. He going to be a

valet.

Valet. I'm out.

You leave Jay Holiday out of this [ __ ]

Relax. See, see, see how [ __ ] dig

somebody up?

I'm not saying nothing. I [ __ ] with Jay

Holiday. I don't care if you work in

Valley. No. See, see, look what he do.

Me too.

Me too.

You can't joking the people you [ __ ]

with.

No, sorry. I don't mean

Wait, Son, what episode is this?

216.

You have to delete 216 episodes on this

podcast.

We real friends. Jay Holiday will fight

us.

That [ __ ] ain't That [ __ ] ain't on

man. The [ __ ] is you talking about? What

is he saying?

Uh, the co record. Yeah, I think by how

he did the choruses, the filter he did

on there, the content of the chorus that

he thinks maybe this could cross over

into not just the regular I put my

headphones on and love this coal album

by myself.

All right. Wait a minute, buddy. We're

getting carried away with the hot takes.

We're going to piss people off out

there.

I'm not Who going to piss off?

No one.

Just my opinion.

No, I know. Not at all. Trust me.

Yeah, it just didn't uh the record just

didn't it wasn't it for me. It was cool.

I mean, Cole can rap. We know that. But

it just wasn't The song wasn't And I

like Cole a lot, but the song just

wasn't there for me.

Yeah.

I'm just curious where it's going to go

with We just did this whole Dreamville

session [ __ ] and now I just put out a

single for me.

It could be off Dreamville, though.

But it wasn't marketed that way.

You think this record is on the album?

I don't know. That's why I'm I'm

confused.

I hate your [ __ ] Just shut up.

Well, cuz I asked him if the record is

on the album.

You have to ignore him more sometimes.

You just got to let you got to let him

talk.

No, this this this matters to me.

He just put out this whole crazy every

single person with a yellow invite and

then you just put out a solo record.

The [ __ ] are you talking about?

Yeah, I got to ask.

I care if this this record is on the

album. I care. Wait on Cole's album.

Yes, I care.

No, on the Dreamville [ __ ]

I know you don't care. I care.

Where else is it going?

His album.

Yeah.

Or it could just be something he just

put out. That happens. Yeah. [ __ ] put

records out just to put them out. Like,

why you acting like you don't know how

this [ __ ] go? Just

I'm blown away by the things that

Joe, you [ __ ] don't put out just

records just to let them fly. Like,

yes, they do. I'm talking about people

locking themselves in a studio with 95

people.

Yeah. Which means they probably have 95

songs

and then immediately drop a record two

days after they leave.

I would think it's for the project that

they recorded with 95 people.

No, I don't think so.

That's not real.

Well, no, it could be. I'm saying I I

don't I hope not. I hope not.

All right, enough of y'all. What do

y'all think? What do y'all think? What

do y'all think of T- Minus? Let's get

into him. We know what y'all think of

Cole.

He's a great producer

with his track record and his

disappearance.

Thank you, Rory.

I don't think that this is how T-minus

wanted to come back. I think with Cole

that makes it

has no idea why we're saying this.

T-minus retired,

but he's been active for the past couple

years. He did a record on uh JCole's

last album.

It's not the first time they

collaborated.

How how active he was in the past. He's

been quite Even Drake through the bar.

Last time I heard from her, Tinus was

making beats,

right?

He hasn't been that active.

I think it's good that he came back on

this moment, but me personally, I don't

think this is the way

he wanted to come back sonically.

It sounds like an older beat, honestly.

It doesn't sound like this was created

in the Dreamville sessions. I think he

had that on the hard drive and was like,

"Yo, I got this." And then Cole just

caught a vibe from it.

But that's why I said what I said about

the

It's good. It's good for the moment, but

musically, I don't think T minus wanted

to come back on this [ __ ] I don't. I

think a nice little B-side with some

heavier acts would have been the way for

him to come back.

I just like I said, the record was okay.

Wasn't blown away. I don't think I'll be

playing that record much. You know what

I mean? I the marketing made me feel

like it was something bigger, something

stronger happening. And that was just

kind of like a, oh, okay, cool. You

know, Cole rapping, he's showing that he

can stick to the that that bounce that

the young the younger crowd likes, but

he can still be lyrical on that. I think

that Cole

I think where he gets labeled as boring

is because of the production of his

vocals. Not necessarily the beats that

he picks or the because he can rap

really well when his tone.

Yeah. Like he doesn't really animate

very much.

So that's kind of the criticism I would

have about the production.

Yeah. Okay.

That's why I like him.

I don't think Cole is boring.

I don't either.

I know that's like the running trend. I

just don't think he is.

He can't be regular's boring. I think

the beat was actually more boring than

Cole. I think Cole brought the beat out.

I thought the beat was boring.

The The beat was very

I think Cole I think Cole livened up the

beat. The beat is a regular loop.

Yeah, it was a simple track. Definitely.

That but that's why I asked Let me not

call it a loop.

Do you think it's going on a project?

Because I don't think that if it's what

Dreamville that whole session was with

all these great producers that that

would be a record that would would stick

to the project. That's what I That's why

I find me that the [ __ ] trash death

jam commercial, please.

Do we not want to finish with the with

stuff?

We are gonna finish. It's gonna take him

an hour and a half to find the [ __ ]

death jam stuff. So, we are going to

finish this. Okay, let's get into the

lyrics for that.

Y'all already said what y'all thought

about T minus. That's what I was looking

for from you, our informed ear parks,

the producer parks. Do you think that

this beat sounded dated? Is it current?

Did it match with him? I'm looking for

you to insert your genius there with

him. I don't know how I feel because I

ain't really Last time I heard T minus

was me.

No, he did uh he did Blem. He did a

bunch of [ __ ] on More Life. He did a

bunch of [ __ ] recently. He did something

on uh Scorpion.

He did he did do he did something on um

he did win some lose some by Big Sean a

couple years ago. He was on Travis last

album.

He did go on a hiatus for a long time,

but he's been around the last couple

years.

Church. Yeah, I think he got religious.

Sure.

Or he just didn't want to sell me any

more beats,

which I didn't understand cuz that's

Did you pay him?

He was getting a gang. Yeah, that's when

I started paying producers.

I couldn't afford it. Producers get mad

when you say that. Listen, I couldn't

afford it. That That's what I'm saying.

I wasn't trying to get over cuz the

producers will attack you

as they [ __ ] should

if you're broke.

No, they should attack you for not being

paid for the work. Yes, they should.

Yeah,

I'm I'm I'm on team. Producers get paid.

Yeah,

I understand if you have an artist is

broke.

You're missing my point, Joe. I don't

care.

I'm on team. All producers get paid,

too. But from the

They can get mad. They have every right

to get mad.

I think that's [ __ ] up.

No, they still if they they don't get

paid.

Just cuz you broke, that ain't my

problem.

That ain't their problem.

Wait, y'all never been a star starving

artist?

No.

Yeah, but Okay, you can be a starving

artist.

If you're a starving artist, you're not

going to do everything you got to do.

No, but you could probably be those he

would probably do the beans conversation

with him first.

I'm saying yeah, you couldn't pay him.

He has every right to get upset.

Oh, no. I mean, all right. I guess

it's one thing to It's one thing to not

pay.

You should understand.

It's one thing to not pay someone. It's

one thing to not tell someone that

you're not going to pay them, but just

put that or tell, "Yo, I'm going to pay

you on the back end or some [ __ ]

like just be like, yo, I don't have it."

Yo, that's the that's the

I'll give you a verse or a song later

on. Come on. Let's Let's get to the

juicy [ __ ] We [ __ ] have tap danced

around enough.

So break this lyrical miracle down for

us.

Well, you already said should he have

been talking to Push a T like that?

I thought it was about talking to P.

I thought it was about cond

asked him.

I didn't think pusher.

All right, so slow down. Let me talk and

let me talk then let me talk. Let me

talk first and let me talk first and

then y'all tell me exactly what you

think. I'm going tell you why I feel

like this. I can't prove any of this

[ __ ]

All of this is unfounded. Mhm.

Kanye was going on all of his abrupt,

well, they seemed to be abrupt tweet

rants toward Drake. And I'm going to say

random and a random but abrupt because

to us seemingly that feud was over

publicly. That feud was done.

But then Kanye kept going publicly.

That made me just think that something

behind the scenes was going. J Prince

was calling [ __ ] I didn't [ __ ] know

some Calabasas beef. That's all I

thought at the time.

Mhm.

Until Drake landed in LA.

Mhm.

And in the midst of Kanye's rant, he

tweeted that purple emoji, devil emoji

thingamajiggy. Right. Right.

Which let us know that Drake was in LA.

I can't believe that that's a thing.

It's a thing.

It's a thing.

I'm sorry. We just argued over you

telling me what was a thing that

clickbait a thing. You know this is a

thing.

I know. I'm just laughing.

You told me it's a thing.

I'm not going against I'm just laughing.

That's where we are now.

I'm laughing that this is where we

But I'm asking y'all when this happened.

Y'all didn't put much stock into any of

this stuff. Right.

A little.

No, I put stock into it.

Definitely. I definitely did.

Okay, cool. Right after he does the

purple uh emoji when he lands

was what? Yes. A picture with Cole.

Yeah. In the car.

That in LA.

That was weird.

It was random.

Come on, Rory.

I know.

Random. Yes. It looked like Drake picked

Cole up from the airport.

He did.

I'm not I'm not trying to be funny.

Uh, and they even put like a a I'm a

ghost Casper bar like in the caption

and they were smiling together. When you

see two light-kinned [ __ ] smiling

together in a car

like they were talking about what were

they talking about that made them smile.

I'm just telling you what I was

thinking.

And first of all, Cole, you still

rapping about uh your student loans. Get

on the train. B I want to see you in the

Ghost.

That's why. But that's why I argue with

Rory because to make the Cole argument

that people are trying to make, you need

Cole fans.

You can't really have an educated cold

conversation without an objective cold

fit,

right?

You need them,

right?

So, I need you here because that's why I

thought that was weird. Not because of

Drake. All of that is right up Drake's

alley. Petty, I'mma [ __ ] with you now

the whole way. If I could get on your

nerves, Cole, though, this was new

behavior.

I have never seen Cole insert himself or

appear to insert himself in the middle

of some [ __ ]

Right.

Me. So that's how I looked at it. Cool.

Leave it alone. Whatever. Fast forward

a few days ago. What came first? Push's

tweet or J or Jid's tweet.

Uh J's went first.

J's went first.

Wait. What did he say?

J tweets out.

Should I find it or should I just

paraphrase it? It was a sentence. He

tweeted out something that said all you

[ __ ] could get it.

No, you can't [ __ ] with us.

You can't [ __ ] with me and minds.

Yeah. Yeah.

I know. That's why I said I don't want

you to paraphrase that way.

Not you can [ __ ] with me. Now you can't

[ __ ] with me.

You and yours cannot [ __ ] with me and

mine. That's odd to me. Why is J

tweeting like this?

I tweeted him with the I emoji. His

response was telling.

He said it wasn't purple. Purple. Yes,

it was. Was it a purple?

He said it wasn't about you. That was

the only response.

Critical thinking, Rory.

So, just because it wasn't about you.

Now, Parks, I'm going to get the tweet.

Now, I'm going to get the tweet.

Critical thinking.

Go get the tweet. He's I hit him the

with the eye emoji. I didn't say I

thought this was about me. However, the

talk of the town currently is

talk of the town.

The town is Twitter. It's the talk of

the town.

The talk of no town.

That's not the town. There's one town.

That's the town. Ben Affleck, them

[ __ ] That's another town.

It's two towns.

That's your That's your second Irish

remark that I'm going to let go. But go

ahead.

You about to get a mick again.

Mo.

Yes.

What did I just

J? Oh,

I hit him with the eyes. The talk of the

town currently is because we did our

last podcast that seemed to be uh maybe

a little aggressive toward Cole that you

know the joke online for some of these

people. We have a large community of

people to follow us is that Cole would

be replying to us. So when I hit him

with the eyes, I wasn't talking about

that. I have never felt like Cole was

going to come at us.

Yeah.

I have never felt like that. We was all

kidding around. But telling to me that

he that he thought that I would think

that

that was telling

and no and it was telling because it was

him saying basically no not you but

somebody

Yes.

Not you but somebody else.

Yeah. He know. Hey them [ __ ] is

online. You was in the studio with 90

[ __ ] that all of them didn't have Old

Spice. All of them didn't. When you in

there with that type of crew.

I made the joke last podcast but I was

being serious. I think a lot of gossip

happened during those dreamville

sessions.

For sure. Them [ __ ] is HEY, CHECK THIS

OUT. THEM [ __ ] is online. So for J to

say,

no, not you.

It's somebody.

It's somebody.

Mhm.

And guess what the very next tweet was?

You [ __ ] right. Push. Saying, "Hey,

I hear [ __ ] want to go another R." He

didn't say Drake.

He did not say Drake.

Wait, so where's the where did the riff

become? Wait, let me just finish. I hear

[ __ ] want to go another round. This

time I'm not playing with you,

any of you. This sounds like crew beef.

Okay, that's where Joe is at with this.

Would you say another round or he says

another round? I missed round one.

No, you didn't. Oh, you seen round one,

[ __ ]

False prophets.

You seen round one.

False prophets.

This is crew beef. Oh, crew. We already

saw Push/Kany

versus Drake. We then had Push come sit

right here on our [ __ ] couch

and tell us not only how he feels about

how Kanye moves, but how he moves in

defense of Kanye,

right?

Uh, I didn't know Cole and Drake was so

tag team back again.

That's what I'm saying.

But a devil emo, a purple devil emoji.

I'm with Kanye. Don't devil emoji me.

Don't devil emoji me. God damn It's

funny that that's triggering.

Don't devil. Yo, don't devil emoji me in

Calabases, my [ __ ] I don't even like

purple.

Yeah.

Ain't purple rain,

right?

The devil emoji.

So now Cole is in this and parks, let's

say. Hey Roy, let's say you're right,

Parks. Let's say I don't pay none of

this. No mine. And everything I'm saying

is wrong. And then now here comes Cole

telling me I'm making a list. I'm

checking it twice. I remember what y'all

said. But hey, Cole marketing genius. So

I'm not paying that any mind either. And

now this song drops and now you're

addressing

the two [ __ ] that my theory along this

whole way said that camp.

I missed the push.

Kanye and push.

I missed the pusher bar.

What's the pusher? I have I have the

lyrics right here.

Kanye, I hear the lyrics.

Uh, but I never beef with a [ __ ] for

nothing. If I smoke a rapper, it's going

to be legit. It won't be for clout. It

won't be for fame. It won't be because

my [ __ ] ain't selling the same. It won't

be to sell you my latest my latest

little sneakers. They want me cuz some

[ __ ] slid in my lane. Everything grows

is death. We We can stop right there.

That was Kanye. I thought

all day.

But I guess Push sells shoes too.

Yeah, but Push was

Oh, I'm not on that. I'm on say you

can't tell.

If I smoke a rapper, it won't it's going

to be legit.

Okay.

Period.

It won't be for clout.

It won't be for fame.

It won't be uh it won't be cuz my [ __ ]

ain't selling the same. Yes, that could

be a very normal line contextualized

with everything I just said. And when I

think about exactly how Drake responded

to Push and kind of dis pushed him to

the side to acknowledge Kanye and told

Push, hey, those extra copies you sold,

you're welcome. This all fits to me is

all I'm saying. Wait, but how on earth

would that be for Push? Cuz Push has

been throwing shots at them forever.

No, he hasn't.

Who?

Young Money Drake.

No, he hasn't.

For a while.

2006.

I know.

I know. Yeah. And then 2006 to 2011.

And And I want to also say

And then that's where was this not

Push's bestselling?

I feel like Push's number.

I don't know. I don't check. I don't

think Last year was last year was

definitely Push's best solo.

If the labels don't uh put pay the

publicist to pull out their bullboard

articles and [ __ ] I don't know who

sells what.

Okay, last put it this way. Last year

was definitely Push's best solo yet.

[ __ ] [ __ ] the numbers. There's no way

Pusher did the infrared [ __ ] cuz his

[ __ ] wasn't selling the same.

Rory McFarrell, hear me good.

Do you think that JCO, you dancing

[ __ ] once smoked with push. The

question I asked you 30 minutes ago,

the answer is no.

No. The answer is

flat out no. I don't think this is push

at all. Like, what are you talking

about? Kanye [ __ ] has been declining.

He's been doing all this [ __ ] to get

his fame back to get his I hate the

word. His shit's not selling the same.

He's selling sneakers. This is a

complete Kanye. Push has nothing to do

with this.

Ignore my whole argument and treat my

question independently.

Okay, I just answered no. [ __ ] no.

And Parks feels the same. But I I will

say I will say Push made it clear that

anytime [ __ ] go at Kanye

and we know and we know Push don't give

his fight. So anytime a [ __ ] talking to

Kanye, they talking to Push.

Who do you have in in Cole versus Push

if it if it were to occur?

It's a [ __ ]

No, this is a bonfire.

No, it's not cooking.

No, it's not tough. It's not tough.

It's not So I love Cole, but

me too, but I until I hear somebody in

that arena.

Yeah, exactly. We're not rolling.

We've never seen Cole battle.

And last time I saw a push battle, I

felt like it was insensitive.

Right.

So, I don't know who side y'all want me

to go with.

We saw the thing.

We saw Cole battle a little bit though.

But the reason why I can't I can't

because you got to we got to remember

the reason why it got

Hold up. I don't want to be rude to you.

This isn't a a disc record.

I'm still a little tired of those high

hats.

Yeah. I'm not I'm not giving that

That does nothing for me.

Oh push.

All right. This isn't fair.

Oh, you're in trouble now.

This isn't fair. Oh, push a push let you

do that.

Oh yay.

I'm going to get you and y'all going to

die. Telling the truth now. I won't even

lie. I can't do that. Yeah, that's

I'm going to kill you and you going to

be dead. I'mma be chilling and watching

some TV. Cops won't even get me. They

They will never see me.

No. No.

Add this to Joe Button sings the hits

thread on Twitter. I can't do that. I

can't do that because I

trust my friend. He bought me a rolly. I

wouldn't tell you. He told me to tell

you. I would

No, you hate that. That flow is hot.

No, he killed his fo.

Listen, I don't know. He killed that

[ __ ]

Y'all counting Y'all counting Cole out.

I'm not going to count him.

Wait, who counted him out? I'm count I'm

not counting.

No, no, you are.

No, she going to tell me

cuz I said push will kill him.

Yes, that's not counting them out.

That's evidence. That's it. Come on.

That's not counting somebody out.

No.

What the [ __ ] are y'all talking about?

If something doesn't happen,

we talking like, yo, if it does happen,

y'all say he'll [ __ ] kill him.

If you could get J's phone, I'm going

get him right now. Swear to God, I want

to call him and ask him if if push sent

some smoke out tomorrow.

I would have a whole new respect for J.

I give it up.

I give it up

if he jumped out there.

No, no, no, no. If if if he responded,

right?

If J responded Yeah. to push

anybody, but push in particular. Like

that tweet push said like if J just took

it wrong and send a shot, I would

respect that.

Yeah, but we talking about pushing Cole.

I ain't No, y'all ain't Y'all telling me

I'm bugging.

No, no, I am. I'm saying y'all counted

him out. Y'all counting Cole out just

off the rip.

J, you better let Cole and push fight

alone man.

But why though?

No, no, I'm with you. I don't want to

cuz we was looking for We was looking

for Big Sean and all them to like say

something where it was

Listen, don't never mention the name Big

Sean. Why not? NO, I'M JUST SAYING YOU

WE was looking for them during that

during that battle.

We was looking for them. Right or wrong?

Or you was definitely you was resting

like, "Yo, why they not saying nothing?

Why the spitters ain't spitting?"

Sean has been quiet since Marvin and

Chardonnay.

5 minutes.

No, I'm just saying like, listen, man. I

ain't going to discount Coke can rap.

He can rap.

You can't You can never count out a

[ __ ] that can rap because