What's Your Dosage?

you're not a master like mash let's

start let's start there first well you know what let's let you feel like a master man let's play you drop first

semester drop that defines what a master is no microphone check one two what is

this welcome to the Joe Budden podcast episode 223 I'm your gracious and humble host Joe button here with a few of my

nearest and dearest friends Maul is here still working on his alias I'll get back

to you with that Parkes is here salute to the parks hive growing stronger each and every week hey guys Rory is here

roarton that's who I am today Rory Diane last week wrote in Hayward I

thought I thought the recent news that I was Rory did now what reason it was

never mind we'll get to it oh no roarton woods I don't think that girl is popular enough to go with Gordon

yet in Calabasas I have no idea who she

was period where some are that name I'll talk about later that's not gonna head of our self yeah you're not our insider

they're more that's our master that's true he's definitely the master Kardashian insider master Carter Wow

he's just Steph Curry alley-oop to you is that what we're going for Erikson

let's get to that oh no no I'm just

joking that's the moving on Erikson you know I do feel bad I feel I feel bad for

her claw his name's still cheating like LeBron on

the team [Laughter]

Saxton Tristen Young won 12 games you can't be cheap I feel bad for Tristan 12 wins why this woman just keeps forgiving

him he's clearly he's trying to get rid of her he's pointing the security camera at him making out with a girl Patricia pray

for Chloe she just keep forgiving him hey don't try to just pray for them that's our a story

[Laughter] Newsweek buddy

Erikson is here and save on the [ __ ] duck is here they want I

have to ask dad hoodie attached to that jean jacket of course it is right

built-in good oh wait hold on wait the

liner's not even you missed this are you freaking it on the bottom when the

bottom is showing you a little bit of sweat elastic band okay under the Jean like I see you you look like the whole

gap man again cuz you could go to legal

go to lunch with that you can go you know I mean they've been put in the jean

jacket khakis combo for centuries even

got the mannequins Scully Scully that'd be right by the register they be trying

to get off on the way out Scully's

though you see these sleeve on is the guy that buys the socks when you waiting

in line a lot strays can never have too many socks Oxford don't worry parks

we're gonna get into you after we finish paying paying homage to a fashion icon that died it popped in my head out upset

you're gonna because we to tries to really know how dope the dude was they passed but when Levi dies

parks Strauss a tear marks gonna have a

long when can Levi bites the dust' name is definitely Ken alright this

definitely sounds like Saturday pockets oh all right so where I wanted to start with roared and Hayward so because we

have a slow news week because Jesse Smollett has monopolized the news cycle yet again I gotta give him credit at

this point he's keeping this [ __ ] moving well let's start with you before you just before we find out who you want to

credit with things let's start with you I was perusing your Twitter yeah but you

know some foul [ __ ] is coming when you perused your friendship yes always some and I've discovered something in plain

sight a little bit I clicked yeah I have

you first okay a public figure no I'm not a public musician yes you are

you can put yeah I don't know how you do that option but I know it exists well you managed no more freedom put private

fig you know but no no your manager

knows how to do that right yeah but I saw that in the in the bio yeah some

booking info with those there's some booking info Wow no no no excuse me serious inquires only series gotta be serious yes I'm serious

you can't even say two part series in quiet flavor in the national enquirer easily acquired

acquire whatever the walk us through this this process young roars to the

inkwell here's you how did you open how did you discover the edit profile and

you have an amount of characters that you could put there so I decided just on one Carol here's some characters why

don't I use some of these cats and character to your page okay Scotty being worried let me slow this down okay Oh

Rory bean this is what I mean Rory I always I've always I've yearned to speak

to someone like you someone who did your hat didn't have a manager mmm and didn't

have booking info okay and then they life do what it's not booking info I'm not looking to get

booked well it doesn't say booking info I mean yeah it's so many words but gist

is still just because you spent most of your career doing walkthroughs you think

that's only what that email is for that's not what that email is for so what's a for contact well you need if

you need to contact me you're not gonna walk through do for the for the bottle Oh put a half off all the walkthroughs

right here yeah I'll do it for the hookah I wanted to hear from how did you decide that you know my your life was

turbulent enough now its turbulent opinions need management you know ask

people that Lincoln build like myself we always have something cooking up I believe the term is mmm some things cooking man and uh in the process you

may need some some management managerial things going on did you find him on

LinkedIn no it's it's my someone I've worked with for quite some time okay so you've been knew this person

you've you know this person yeah who is it oh my man better y'all have met

better please oh I better I better Boehner's been on tour with you I don't

know better don't try to make me know

I don't know I don't know him the way y'all saying it like oh no no I'm sorry gotta tap me over money if you want to

get to know that's why I'm trying to

find out why who's booking Rory and for what so I know Rory gonna be booked busy

and when I wanted to book the mixi boys y'all wouldn't let me the National

Enquirer yeah yeah got it the National Public fact he is a public figure so so do say

will be coming to Fort Worth so absolutely it'd be the master liquor class I don't know how to drink so that

mistress tries a few time do save [ __ ] gonna leave Earth in the same year run

around drinking together harmoniously

together the people at the people that do do say yeah I don't they don't really drink as much as they used to know now

that has become like a real business like I've seen them at the last you losers throw Chris be holding the bottle

the whole time you see it's full yeah used to be empty yeah you gotta keep

drinking low ain't been drunk in a while I'm saying a bio strong but I get it I want to go link Lola wait wait Billy

chicken team all you're not telling me they just they just are piggyback to poison our culture we're selling a

lifestyle oh no y'all living just not Africa lose it over yeah living so we're

like the future of parties like we just be talking about the lien we don't really drink it ya know ya be drinking

though yes still drink but not as I remember I remember three years ago which I used to look like when it was over that's what y'all was really

depressed yeah a few you're really a couple dollars new y'all really wanted to end it nonno

Nanni looking like joe budden yeah loving life looking nice smiling too much fun juju

goddamn alright uh what are we talking about sixteen minutes in alright let's

start with all the sad [ __ ] first start with a little sad [ __ ] first woke up to

really sad news rest in peace to Karl Lagerfeld legendary iconic fashion

figure designer for Chanel is all I know because I'm stupid offended to a thing I

know he had some relationship where we honor well everybody cool in hip hop has

a picture with him and he's dressed better than them in all that's when I

knew that he was kind of fly like when you out dressing the dresses but on a regular basis and what appears to be

just your regular go out swag like Saint blacks loose yes suits who does sometimes he gave them the gray gray

suit up the the virtual flying collar hovering above the bowtie like we should

see good new none with that you can now beat that was hard it's hard to look fly

didn't call he took four pictures with Rihanna he won all of them yeah which is

never seen I don't think I've four pictures in a row not for would you don't know I never seen that I'm tiny so

I'm about the gray hair does it to men cuz the gray hair and all the pictures may help like you know I don't give a [ __ ] about none of this [ __ ]

gray hair in the shades yeah in the glove like stone yawn hey wait you're

not getting my friends on nothing yeah we're a great gray is distinguished-looking that's what I

wanted to do that's what I so it would really take my criminal career to the next level as a teenager race I could know different fingerprints

[Laughter]

just some clothes you want new fingerprints no glove weren't gonna do

it no gloves good set of gloves to do it now with no I was talking about all the times where I lied to the police and the

jig was up once they ran my prints so I was trying to find create I was trying to create through it hmm oh that's what

you mean okay you try to use some fingerprints I get it yeah and then maybe ten years later it

was the first time I heard somebody actually doing that who did it this way to alter your fingerprint stuff yeah

well now he just wasn't tough enough to go do anything yeah I'm not oh oh fingernail file rub fingernail file you

have to put yourself in a position and just know that you would lose the first

saw shouldn't started with me he's gonna

suck now yeah all right so rest in peace to Karl Lagerfeld I feel like there was

some more bad news we needed to get to UM oh prayers prayers to TI's sister who

was involved in a really bad car accident that's the extent that I know of the details because that's all that

was released but prayers 2ti his family and his and his sister that's all the

bad news that I have Preston oh yeah there's some piece of the family she's

alive I know but still oh yeah still perfect uh is there any

more bad news before we move on I want to get all the bad is there some bad news that we missed from last week

we covered everything I saw a lot of people you know I saw a lot of people addressing some [ __ ] from let me keep

playing this cuz that's the salon my vibe right now I saw a lot of people from last week hitting me during the

week a lot of y'all idiots that hit me to tell me that Rory is right about some I think y'all stupid - like yeah y'all

[ __ ] be hitting me like y'all are the confirmation y'all are the deciding boom in the argument listen look how mad he

get cuz I hate it it's like I hate it is the thing they got you cuz they were

sitting nice and Rory's right about the snitching thing yeah but but Rory's

wrong tweets by the way but I felt like misunderstood my point anyway I mean I usually do we do a podcast so naturally

we got fixated on a point that we weren't really arguing we argued a bunch of different points but what they were buying Rory is correct that the new kids

don't give a [ __ ] about snitching y'all think me parks and mall is are that dinosaur ik that we believe that the new

kids care about snitches hmm leave that with you is a making which the clue they

understood that those kids don't care about snitching they only care of that [ __ ] bang if he's rapping about

snitching and it bang these kids are gonna rock with it and that's that's all I'm saying I can't go that far

he can't be rapping about snitching and no I'm more I would I would I'm inclined

to agree more with if he puts out new music and he bangs then people might forget but that's the main thing why the

only way I can describe it yeah I disagree and y'all saying what y'all is

saying don't really counter my point because my point is it didn't really bang - the the marketing and all and the

movie that was attached to are you using banging a more hypothetical poetic sense

when she came on the the party or the gravity was another loving crazy he was

loud the beat was loud everything distorted bang yeah and mainly I'll tell you where mainly where my point came from was when I was at made in America

and saw him perform and I watched 30,000 middle America white kids that don't

know nothing about really what he's talking about or that image just ran to the stage like they saw Michael Jackson

I don't think I don't think one of them kids care about snitches don't worry and I agree with you I don't really think

it's rules like that in in hip-hop today I don't think it's rules like we've seen

enough we've seen they could say that they right right for your favorite rappers we've seen they can say they pissed on [ __ ] we've seen [ __ ] kiss

[ __ ] like we've seen it all we've seen rappers be CEOs we're not gay yeah we've seen that like what haven't we

seen we haven't seen someone straight-up snitch in a federal case and then come out and be around bro we know we haven't

seen that we haven't seen I don't know that we haven't seen successful but that

was my main point in whatever argument we were having I do not think that

Takashi nor anyone else for that matter can have a successful rap career from

witness protection no we all agree all agree there yes I know but he pulls that

off but we were arguing what you were saying which made a bunch of idiots hit me and say Rory is right and I just want

to say hey we agree that ain't what I was fighting about hmm none of us think

he can have a successful music career from witness protection oh I don't know because I know to have a successful

music career you need to be out and about moving around different places witness protection usually means you're

not seen you know you know I think his though MF DOOM has been [ __ ] on the island sending tell them quality outs it

with the mask on or whoever you send an out to do [ __ ] so yeah but there's crazy rules of witness protection to even yeah

in it yeah like you can't do it I think my prediction is because his style is easy to mimic and his voice isn't that

unique I think we're gonna get a lot of records of people claiming to be six nine I don't think his style is I think

it's doubt isn't easy to mimic and I do think he has a rather distinct voice another pop-up I think people are

going to know I just do it I don't think

they'll be successful I think they'll just be a lot of copycats in the sense of literally saying this is a six nine

record six nine did this from witness protection and they'll put it out that's what I think is gonna happen as possible

listen man I might they're my only thing is this man I think we're getting into a dangerous place of being okay with

certain things I think we way past yeah but I think it's getting to a dangerous place now though because it has to be

rules and guidelines still things things change things evolve and people grow in times you know that ever changes but

there are some rules that have to transcend all errors though and guidelines I feel and I feel that

snitching now Takashi's cases a little different because if all the reports are coming out that are you know that if

it's true you know these people were trying to set them up trying to kidnap is down right there stop right there if that is true if that's to stop right

there huh stop right there because because I'd say that's where I take a little bit of issue and I'll

qualify this by saying I'm not a street [ __ ] at all hmm but when I see these

memes floating around of the younger kids attempting to justify and

rationalize the snitching mm-hmm and I'll give it to you man if somebody is

stupid boy that should make sense oh yeah like if somebody does not understand the streets I won't say come

from it but I mean know somebody they're kind of like if you if you've been close to the streets at all if you haven't I

can see how that makes a whole bunch of sense man some of the memes we're saying look if

you were facing 47 years for some [ __ ] that [ __ ] your baby mom stole three

million from you kidnapped you and was plotting to kill you you would

snitch to you would start singing like trey songz I saw a whole bunch of different variations of that mean with a

lot of support for them yeah and oh my head I'm like oh yes nasty all of you

are nastiest nastiest nasty duh duh that's another [ __ ] dumb moment what

a lot of people would say Thank You obvious police for letting us know that that would happen that's our point when

we're seeing Takashi talked a certain way to killers right that was our point

our point was hey this kid named from

the streets and he's playing a game he probably shouldn't play because he's

speaking of [ __ ] that he probably wouldn't speak to in a certain way hmm that's the trade yeah it's a fact that

that that is how this works I get it sounds nuts to people that are

not listen I'm that Street either I'm not saying I would make the trade but that's why I don't make the trade right

because that is the exchange you get to [ __ ] talk crazy to a bunch of

worldwide killers because we holding you down because we got it yeah

and on the side we're gonna inflate your rates and take take the difference and

we gonna [ __ ] your little big moms when we feel like it well no one I saw that's

the top of that meme I was like alright they're [ __ ] someone's baby mom it's okay to rat be a lot of renton going on

in the world what it is oh [ __ ] baby moms come on and that's why I'm saying it so much so knowing that people feel

like it's okay it's normal it's

[Music]

[Music] going going but you're nice what you do

over there going to be more did you know that I know like my friend yeah what you gonna do that oh we got a fight

what if you know would you baby more than one you still got a fight you my

man yes my baby mom I didn't say [ __ ] I said go ahead we still on the going yeah

okay go at my baby you go ahead ex-girl fine right and y'all been stop talking

and I don't even really rock with you like the other one I can't go at your baby mom oh me you know you know you change when we used to be cool see when

it's cool for- me a cool no more you go out or expect that we don't have to fight no no I'm talking if it's still

cool look our friendship makes you fight this way cool like if I don't mean you know not cool no more you got my beer

okay well I expect that actually yeah I know why we have no [ __ ] each other no more but now we cool when you get we

gotta have we got to step outside you can't go I'm on bacon walls are we cool if there was a legal purge for like one

day how many bodies you think you would catch I don't know I think I'll get busy

I don't know if I will probably be in the crib just try that's a number hello body Oh more than 20 more than 20

I think I'll be home I'm killing more than 20 people really but why on a legal

purge day ya know who you killin yeah you got that many target now yeah evil

in my heart so you go out but in the relative if the bell go off it up and

say yeah yeah it's cool god wow this is a few door

we have 23 hours no I'm also staying in the crib try not to become a body oh you

[ __ ] I will kill somebody would have to kill

someone down here I am Legend but you would have to kill somebody trying to come to equip I would do here but I'm

not going out in the streets to his body and [ __ ] in the high in doing that alright well we have to talk about stuff their all-star weekend terrible all-star

weekend Terrell Danny you guys enjoy the dung content oh hell no hell no the skills that I wanna see [ __ ] jumping

over rappers bro I don't want to see that [ __ ] or Shaq what what about don't want about takeaway no Shaq was a

reference I don't want to see none of that's true you'll have nobody clown and

how I dress no more because [ __ ] just let Jay Cole do whatever the [ __ ] you want now when you got earthy vibes you

wear what you want when you got when you have to earthy shoot you cool with that

blow me alphas be better than that todd da hood fan that was an event all I want

to say didn't get accepted at your chair

I watched a code to a concert on stage with basketball shorts a t-shirt you've

been doing that in his JS that was untied like yeah like he was dragging his shoelace was dragging like you could

have tripped yeah it's like if what's cool is at that point I'm not expecting him to show up to all-star weekend wait

you know I mean like the dope trench with the sweater underneath I'm not expecting almost caught the duck though

he wasn't wearing the baggy hoodie you might have caught the Builder no you killed that let's not get into deck of

that I have I have a theory I haven't talked about the dumb now not

about pole and dunking but just about rappers and basketball and I'd like us

to get into it shortly so let's not get into that yet but cold did kill that uh that almost don't yeah he's almost done

him in the time it was it look like to every other don't everybody was missing dunks and in like yeah sure the dunk

contest just is not what it they even need to incorporate stars they need to have stars when I was like two three

years ago they kind of brought it back exactly V Manoj is just Zak and Aaron Gordon yeah but those two years would it

felt like it was back now more exciting if LeBron was out there trying to no I don't want to feel it we're all enjoy I don't want to see the bomb I just don't

want to see anyone jump over a fake paper plane and then break the paper planes in the process I just dude like

no they all jump but then that's that's the moment that I that I knew how important like rhythm and [ __ ] was like

steps here because you could jump but so it's just different you kick the plane yes but it's different when you get out

there by yourself like that's that by itself he brought out seven I'm like we

gonna fly security from the probably the

plane was a rapper they came out all like he was about to do something and they just stuck lined up but like a free

throw was getting shot I'm like fam yeah you'd have to go sit down somewhere nah but Jose Kenny Smith said that if he

jump over all these dudes the Hawks have a better record like that's real like if

you got a dude or your roster I could jump over all of these dudes right now if y'all should have a better record you

know I'm just I don't know like Diallo la blue yeah Hama do Diallo yeah yeah he

was dope I like I liked him yeah he killed it he and until I liked him until I found out that he did all those same dunks in high

school don't go into tennis Smith was my favorite now I think he would have won

if he didn't miss so many that's a lot of dogs yeah he missed a lot he was my favorite I was home mad out of shape

like are you tired ready yes holy [ __ ] from the cows home

one day smoking you can't do six dogs

jump over five yeah [ __ ] out of here that's how usually goes I enjoyed him -

let's see what else the three-point shootout is definitely the event now though that's like more excitement well

yeah I mean because shooting is more exciting than yeah cuz shooting is fun now yeah yeah it's cool so he really

changed that got out there stunk it up he didn't really stick it up first ride he went off but then second right he

didn't stick it up with some sports

now let's stay on all-star weekend for a little bit I want to switch up the angle

though I knew when it was being announced that it was in Charlotte that we wouldn't hear too many stories of muggings and robberies

I think Charlotte's a nice place to be no but Charlotte is one of those places where like in certain places that that

the culture is scared to roam freely mm-hmm like Charlotte you make up three

left's you know part of town yeah and everybody ain't moving like a homeboy

mall man who said I'll shoot all you [ __ ] ain't checking in the baby the baby that why I was so safe in Charlotte

yeah no crime the baby was happy this with a baby

being happy little baby had a little baby did it yeah Congrats Congrats a little babies

Congrats a little babies all right what else is fun all-star weekend no I'm serious man she seem like it's always a

slow news week when a big event weekend kind of everybody you know and nobody gets mugged yeah

well Cole was like the face of the whole thing so you know you can be responsible responsible all-star we fire

oh yeah we gotta give Coley's props man anyways he was a very father fatherly

type all-star weekend oh he looked miserable in every picture he had his own brunch looking miss pissed Cole had

a snuck in a dream Ville brunch in Charlotte yeah JIT ain't even invite us

no oh you industry [ __ ] being fake fly

with us man invite us somewhere it's cool lunch man I like brunch [ __ ]

dreamville brunch I would have enjoyed it come on Rory beam that's crazy yeah but you know Cole don't [ __ ] with you

like that that's true brunch that's true

like sex you can't be mad at Anna go over French toast no you know what listen boy daddies you

two talk old I like brunch absolutely ugly and reason to actually I'm reaching out although you're all young because I

spoke to number two you're laughing

hello me let me cue up some Rock him cuz y'all [ __ ] man Rock comes at the brunch y'all all right rockin was at the

brunch and we wasn't does a problem wait we get an invite before Rakim and a

brunch we never made no rock you know he likes pancakes

thanks something 100% okay oh he's a favorite Long Island diner that he goes

to ya Angie's orders tea for five hours Rock him definitely order nothing booty

for father mall I would I would be inclined to agree with y'all Cole don't

[ __ ] with me so he'll kid if I eat brunch and I he not invite me to the brunch I got it okay you ate that day

but when I Y you you think that's real funny I think Cole asking you if you ate

today is hilarious yes oh I think that would be very funny but I've seen some pictures floating around of the

dreamville brunch did you and this is where I don't know

if I didn't know if I had a beef with Cole and dreamville or if I was supporting them they I like what they're doing they like

they're like friends with everybody yeah dreamville is all inclusive of everybody there's nobody that cold won't

put his arm around and hug ya he's a hugger so at first I was like oh that's phony

mmm but then I liked it a lot so then that got rid of my beef that I have when

looking at all the dreamville brunch pictures there's a whole bunch of [ __ ] did it I know Cole ain't really invite them [ __ ] firsthand well I mean they just

put on rap summer camps so they know everyone cool cool it invite fab sure

you did yeah yeah no what makes you say that I don't think Co invited anyone yeah

Rocco I don't think Cole just went to our it was rock coding this far I don't know Oh while I was there

while a difference I'm feeling invited well while they have been following Jay Cole for about seven years yeah unbeknownst to Cole yeah while they

get Rory man yo Jake oh did not invite all the brunch no not all for sure I

don't think anybody one person and one person he was invite the one person that he was supposed to invite but I ain't

CPT Pablo there no nobody from North Carolina speedy and showed some [ __ ]

respect for Petey Pablo sorry and you call yourself culture Carolina

nin you can't Carolina and then without PDP they put him in the commercial for

the all-star game like they used things up that's [ __ ] up it's like wow

finally perform and have to do as many parties as I [ __ ] took my shirt off in Sparta

ma ma ma wait you said anything I'm just laughing don't laugh at that

wait hold on don't act at the time I was partying McCarroll on is a lot oh so

that's why you think another thing and

definitely keep it clean when Jo would definitely put a new jersey born and raised up first down on that beach oh

yeah for sure 100% for sure it's probably Jo probably out a verse on that beam I'm sure everyone else on that

beach that's why Cole gotta get I gotta start giving Cole a lot more props because when that song was out all we

could keep saying even while we was over he was on drum line that's a fact that's

a fact I forgot about that yeah with Peter get Peter on the phone there to the legend Petey definitely is the

same number from when you see them in Carolina hang a lotto but where's it at

next year New Orleans no Miami or some [ __ ] Chicago oh no see yeah be careful when

she's in New Orleans because the hose would be like too busy to [ __ ] you in New Orleans you can't be mad reporter

[ __ ] Osia Chicago next you might be gay

they might not even play Sunday as Chicago makes you so cold [ __ ] gettin killed you're playing a low we coming

out though is there anything else that we need to break down from all-star with y'all it's stupid what else what else

happened Oh two all-star game so also game dude how do I feel about the UH the new the new system they do that last

year right did ya the good ii yeah uh-huh but I like it I like it a lot I

think all-star games in general are pretty boring I like do you know this awesome games I it was I it's fun no

it's fun to see dudes that would never you know would never like be like the Western Eastern Conference thing like

mixing that up I think the playoffs should be like that honestly like they need to mix the wet they need to just make it the best records play each other

but I mean I like the all-star game when it wasn't [ __ ] the AAU League like I can just go my Instagram and see them

play together because they all work out together in the summertime yeah this is regularly to see them interact with each other it is a bit overblown and that no

I do and that's why I do like this all-star game because yes a lot of them all-stars [ __ ] with each other but a lot

of them don't game kind of showed that yeah the ones that [ __ ] with each other

and it's like a little cool click everybody else like they was mad when

Paul George was getting off like they'd all be one Nate date [ __ ] that's not a

click to start getting it homie from Denver is super nice tall 24 year old buck well I forgot how to draft well who

did LeBron Drive first Kevin Durant broad is scared of Katie man and well

nobody said it won't nobody say it bran don't never want that KD smoke I don't

know why people won't just address that I mean whoa Wow I beat him me beat him in that one flawless pretty Wow

was a he tore Cleveland but you should be okay to you shouldn't if you LeBron

you shouldn't get a nobody else mocha Kevin Durant man oh why cause that's Cavinder were handy

okay I just think that's interesting too he drafted him first that's all wasn't I

mean I would draft strong you know guys gotta go get all his little what's his little special special body Sarah me

taking it summertime yeah you gotta go get all that steroids what's about to say are you referring to steroids I won't say that cuz he bought reading

machine but I do just want to read to

y'all uh the 2003 draft okay this should

be funded cuz I'm not saying that LeBron dose steroids mmm-hmm but we will say Darko Miller check was

not I don't know what body serum

LeBron's been one point six million on everything but the the I just have to

hear the draft from 2003 I'll go in order LeBron LeBron Darko I ain't seen him in

ages Carmelo fight and be on the team Chris Bosh had a health issue Dwyane Wade is

retired Chris Kaman ain't seen him in some time Kirk Hinrich the same TJ Ford

I think broke his leg in a fight Mike Sweeney boy as a Knick fan I hated him Jarvis Hayes who exactly Michael Petrie

as he was good for two summers nick collison he's out of here Marcus banks

Luke Ridnour Reese games Troy bells are coca Babbitt [ __ ] David West retired

Alexander paulvitch Donte Jones Donte Jones produces for the

D out Boris Diaz on Weight Watchers now Travis outlook Brian Cook Carlos Delfino

ken Ken Ken Drake Perkins Joey Howard and Marcus lamp a Jason

Kapono mark Mario Austin Steve Blake the only other notable names here is way down at

number 52 Kyle Korver Maurice Williams Keith bogans Steve Blake at 39 that the

Wizards my point here is this entire draft class has hung it up yeah I think

the second round is made on the mall don't [ __ ] defending LeBron is

playing more minutes yeah probably by three times then whoever else is on this list

yes and it's Steven wait wait yeah yeah and it's still performing at this level

still in in the best conversations goat conversation are you the best in the

league I'm not gonna say that LeBron is on something but the boys back then is

the boy Crona 40 years still the boy yeah yeah

that young yeah in that old no he's young no yes and I mean but I got me careers yes I don't want to just throw

that to any type of enhancements anything like that LeBron does work out a lot and takes great care of his body

but that list is interesting though cuz I think it's probably one name you name that's probably still active and then

being that's D wait how does I say Kyle Korver story Kyle yeah what they've been tired yeah in that light shooting yeah

but it's like anybody else is either retired or no no idiot I mean you could probably say that about a lot of traffic

class that maybe only one or two made it that long in their career obviously not to the degree of LeBron is playing but

that's what we saw at that level oh I'm saying and it's still no decline

I don't I don't see it well I mean when you're a hip hop historian that's what happens I don't know it who else on that

list is a pop historian I don't know who else could have could have ever a in order a whole project

hmm so maybe we're onto something here I think we've been on stone for a little while mall to change didn't give me no

wonder that he let you add the exclusion

bill to come back and tell me that in confidence like you listen mister it's a reason y'all sit in comfy in tenth right now

you should've told me that James didn't

say anything about it I feel like that's something I mean you

could be forgetting that sometimes though the label total look back in

hindsight James chains would seem to be more concerned about the Superbowl at

the time that him and I were his team his people my people were communicating because he had a earlier release date

okay his original release date wasn't March 1 so which probe is his original

release date I'm told was February 1 and they had a whole Super Bowl so Tom Brady

was they are for right I'm not saying that no Julian Edelman so then we did the interview and

I'll be honest at some points it felt like I had to do quite some quite some digging to get where we had to go mm-hmm

but a lot went on and a lot of gas in the room okay so I didn't pay it any mind dangerous and then we did the

interview and claimable you know I said I would hold it till after Super Bowl

which made sense yeah and then right before it went out they said hey make

sure it's nothing about LeBron in there oh they said that yeah and I thought it

was a little strange only because I didn't remember really talking about LeBron at all sure but fine Ericson go

look at the [ __ ] footage and let's just make sure that let's do our part and make sure that you know that's not

there yeah you're smart you should well when he said that hip-hop a story I said okay

he has something coming with LeBron that's all that said to me yeah it didn't tell me that LeBron anr the

project hmm I asked him a bunch of questions about the project and I still stand by what I said the project sounds

great mmm it really does sound good it sounds very different than what I anticipated at the new to change project

sound like I said LeBron very interesting look at the effect listen

and that story further proves my theory

bono should be effect what I'm just saying how can y'all hate when LeBron invented the deluxe album they presented

a problem say yo we gots we got 16 songs we need to get it down to 14 yeah I got this idea like the next week if

everyone's feeling it we'd be like yo let's give them two more and call it like the deluxe you know what that's a

really funny joke that you make is hilarious well I wasn't laughing

oh wait you as hey and they invented the deluxe you know what I was saying let me come clean with my hate I feel

like every week I'm coming clean with hate that's good that's gonna start beauty like he invented the deluxe I was

mad at - James - James has like 4 deluxe

I swear this wouldn't bother me LeBron

was this would not bother me at all but listen I'm not mad at you James good what you supposed to do when the Bronson

it's like hey the two extra songs we come back and we're gonna put those out like footed locks make him think we had

more in the talk no and Paul Oh

snuck during all-star week and try to shove an Eminem logic you know posting

to paint prom Stanfill parks it does hard definitely came up with the prime logo like your name's premier and like

Royce like mom but I know we makin jokes

but what a joke but why can't LeBron a an art project I'm not I'm not saying that LeBron can't

a in our project you're saying he can't do it midseason when the Lakers are fighting for playoff it's just like he's injured though yeah

but I know I keep seeing pictures of him in the hallway with Rob palinka you want pointing pointing at our active players

if you don't get your ass out there with Lonzo enough this one I know none of this would bother me if LeBron wasn't on

my team none of this I would just be laughing but it's like dog you hurt between the studio with 2 Chainz he's

broken hang out with Tristan so he could cheat and get away with it we sitting in

tents okay and this [ __ ] to my EAN are

a 2 Chainz oh yeah middle of the season yeah let's let's get off on the Brawn for 2 seconds we can go back uh similar to LeBron

I just got when that Kevin Durant media company moved to New York and that and

that's one of the things fueling this work ad to the next thing I didn't know Kevin Durant had a media company but

yeah but he should he's partnered with a rock Nations worried all the partners

from Sony office Sony job you know everybody was partners with each other why am i blinking on his name he works

at rock tanks in sports back off no not pick us Katie's manager

for everything nobody's coming to New York I know you said you were very early

in there but you told me the Brahmas coming to New York few years ago but then what's climbing I was just trying to find we didn't care it's important

mall then that does MIDI comforting for a minute so so KD moving his media company to New York you rolling with

that yeah okay he's coming to you okay lady is he doing they did a YouTube deal

they've they've been moving what's on their YouTube that's original content for specific one sports obviously do you

keep do you put anything to Kyrie and KD in the hallway no with Kyrie saying hey

there's two slots or whatever that's not what the joy don't feel the joy I think

I was early saying it I do think both of them will be in New York Katie for sure Katie for sure for sure for sure we're

gonna end up with Jimmy Butler and Hassan Whiteside now you know the next do something like cash out Chris

Middleton y'all give him like a hunt wente yeah and we taken care of ready for the number one yeah so with the one

yeah so does Katie then a in our Nikki's album if he comes in New York I hope not

that's the case you picked I mean I'm thinking New Yorkers know he's not gonna

do Barbary loaded no barb reloaded God hold on let's not reload him

the deluxe though cuz you go because Nicky has had 16 songs she had to get it down to 14 there's only four

yeah we as morning in the Tuck don't worry about that everyone what country album with Steph Curry a you know everything that cause everything party

has done since the Grammys I feel like it's a slight - Aniki I have no reason to feel like that at all it's who a

slight toward Nicki what she does yeah she did a broom or no she did that the

honest [ __ ] the tatianna which I didn't pay any mind to that until I remember

Nikki freestyled over it mmm then I was like I wouldn't freestyle over if I knew that cardi was the remix feature well I

think she tried to get it out before and then I said that I said card he keeps Tomo I'm a Grammy Grammy award-winning

artists which that's cool you can do that that only has four yeah Nikki I

felt like I felt like the cardi fan page because the female rappers talking their

fan pages that is true so the card eat the same way to the barbs fan page kept

telling us that Nikki broke Waller read the records the cardi fan page is telling us now that all of the major

publications say that card is the queen of rap billboard Forbes what's the other

one that I was like a Harper bizarre

altercation yeah and that's why is it no I mean they would have to say she won

grapow buddy it is yeah but I also felt like cardi coming out and explaining to the stupid people ie mean how Mughal air

works or a mullah or what is it I don't know I think the latter you had it with glare something like that you smuggler

the dresses you wore to the Grammys is McClair can only be Ark archived there

archive pieces that everybody does not have access to so cardi really stunted

with that one saying hey that was vintage exactly what you said don't

worry about it

oh poor Park then you can stow his vintage 95 you other podcasters can

write don't 95 we talked about before mu

glare Karthik Karthik doing things to slight Nicky you fill it up before car because I feel like we just okay Kyrie

LeBron in our weave we finished with that thought so it's okay do you think

he pillows and split sheets yes an obvious definitely after hearing your

story Joe on did he clear the sample what you said we know this is marketing

more than anything yeah this is like what I'm only not I guess I'm only not so mad at it because

well one with the third album and it's good to change makes good albums yeah no

one is done but to change again also like we said a few weeks ago markets

albums really well yeah this is that's I guess that's why I don't look at this as cheesy as maybe you more the Laker fan

because I don't def GM I don't feel like has anything to do with this at all no

you don't feel like it like it feel like a 2 Chainz

and his people move and let's see what happens and I'm not never gonna knock a

[ __ ] for doing that in a build and it seem like they have a hard time getting behind their premier axe you'll take know did this no I think this is a text

conversation determined to turn Def Jam into a Content complex hub like that if

you know them it's not doing music anymore you're not doing music they're not releasing music all the artists that

are known for music over there Wayne talking about them is nothing but content coming from over there well no they're taking all their artists

and putting them together to record one thing for a piece of content I know they came without their own [ __ ] yeah but as

an artist over there I would have a lot of questions about that question so I don't know I've conned out how included

content is in my music deal didn't Steven Victor sound like 50 people over there Steven Victor do whatever the [ __ ] you

want over there yeah so that's probably true I have no idea who's on Def Jam yeah but no Steven Victor sound a lot

acts logic is over there and Eminem took a picture with me somebody called me

over the weekend I mean that's a somebody then Stables called me over the weekend with a wild theory he always calls me wild theory and he said in a

minute he said there he said they're killing hip-hop Magritte is he stoned up

Jim I said I'll cut it out buddy no that's not a locked up all the black

rappers last morph having many nine of them in the span of three weeks cool but

somebody needs to pay close attention to the discrepancy between the value of all

the white acts and just how many white acts there are versus the black axe and

the value of them mmm and then he went through a long list the white rappers a

bunch of him I can't tell you nothing about cuz I don't know nothing about no smoke perp is what he did what he does

he's white yes why Oh see I didn't know I've heard

that name enough to think he's black anyway interesting he made an

interesting point he did um I have to do my own research on it before I start so money yeah but I

like that he's thinking on that like type of field though Vince's brain is

different yeah I like that he's thinking like that Vince's brain is different I wish more brains we're different I love I love when your psycho friend like will

call you and tell you what's on his mind that's underrated man yeah yeah I want

to know what my crazy friend think yes definitely I think Vince is crazy that's the Wow fart Vince is crazy a lot

of the things that come out of his mouth sound extremely saying to me yeah I don't think he's crazy like I think that

he's very uh he's different I think he's more sane than most of the why here speak what I think I think

crazy people sound sane and sane people sound crazy okay Vince is great but he

does say I've ever seen a lot of time oh let's get into some more crazy [ __ ] from [ __ ] it sounds saying a lot of times

your man Jesse let's get back into Jesse

well the groups that was killing us when we said this sounded like [ __ ] from the jump like oh no I feel like I've

seen what the narratives changed to and I don't disagree with these people would stop saying it to us we'll always still

believe victims shut up no we saw [ __ ] oh [ __ ] it's not that

we don't believe victims [ __ ] yes I saw

that a lot of people were mentioning me and saying that we'll always still believe the victims [ __ ] enough boy I've

been sick to my [ __ ] stomach watching you imbeciles type things stop typing

you [ __ ] are stupid you have to lose the right to be able to type of all the

[ __ ] of all the accumulative evidence to come forth right you [ __ ] idiot

right at what point at what point do you say all right some new [ __ ] has come about let me process this I was wrong

and come to you you ready we gotta say you I know you have to say no I have to say that because you could be politically

correct like Kamala Harris and say hey let's wait to all this investigation conclude I'm cool with that I'm fine

with that I'm talking about the people that are reading this [ __ ] in real time as it comes out and it's still saying I

stand with a victim's [ __ ] ain't no victim there is not a victim here the

victim [ __ ] rehearse they attack yeah and then uh the next one that people

been saying oh so now you guys want to believe the police no we never said we

believe the cops I never believed cago like we're going off his story I got a

brain you [ __ ] idiot yeah where where's yours that's it but that's the thing Jo we in

an era where nobody thinks for themselves I'm cool with that but y'all [ __ ] - ain't gonna talk about uh how

my brain operates you know I get it I'm totally fine with that a be stupid over there yeah

be stupid in your in your in your own dollar don't come don't come chastise real [ __ ] for thinkin what it's like

and that's what I said many pains me that wheat and we in a place where I feel like [ __ ] can police me for

critically thinking about something yeah yes absolutely it's nastiness Hey and Jesse check this

out I meant to say this last week I see where you're going it's coming on this

tomorrow on throwback Thursday I have every intention on uploading my state of

the culture clip and my joe budden podcast clip from three weeks ago saying

get this [ __ ] the [ __ ] out of here what nobody wanted but more rocky a couple of other people cuz we scared these get

people [ __ ] out of here yeah Jesse Jesse

since let's talk about new revelations since we reported this jesse has hired a

crisis management team hey and if you're out there like me let

me answer for you yes there's a such thing as a crisis management team I'm

very busy high-paid this is the snow not looking for what is the stuff I was telling y'all about when I kept saying that I

didn't beat beat up no girls but I was too broke to like do the [ __ ] with that people with money do this is that our

crisis management team know what they do you guessed it manage the crisis know

they'll manage it for you they won't manage it for you okay Jesse so this is what we're gonna do and Jesse got one of the biggest crisis management people out

because the Cochran uh management crisis to you that's enough he got Tyler Perry

from gone okay they're gone girl gotcha so he got a crisis management team what

else came about the two brothers they went in there and they co-op they were

cooperative I mean they've been cooperative together for this entire things got too hot yeah yeah yeah you

know what they've been helping the police and telling them certain things that they just weren't making us or you

privy to Jesse the brothers went in there and said hey man we were this

thing just the other day right right over there hey we bought the Rope from

right over there from Ace here's my receipt as a sum for something like that two days before like the brothers have

told it all and everybody been being respectful now but if we're gonna have a

real conversation see [ __ ] was killing Bootsie for saying um I'm talking about the powered dick but I understand what

he was trying to say yeah I get it he was trying to say man you can make it do some things right which is insensitive

to say right now but that's [ __ ] I get it but [ __ ] plays about different set of rules yeah but uh do we think they

just he had a romantic romantic involvement was one idea

Aryan brothers because because that's the first thing that the cop said the cop said hey the two brothers they hate

Trump and they are totally with the LGBTQ community

well they said one of them they said one

of them okay that said to me that there's something here and then when I

seen the two Nigerian dude because all the pictures they show is - shirtless [ __ ] I'm like Jessie like this [ __ ]

man that was a fam that's his type I

mean am i oh a mic might not allowed to say that cuz I'm straight no I don't know if we're allowed to

answer if you're right or not because we're straight through take Jessie might

even down with Chelsea was doing something with the guy that was one of his boobs yeah got a more Empire's a

extra that's the only not doing anything

why your lover yeah Jessie check this

out we see your next move a mile away and keep your little nasty lyin lyin ass

it's a double entendre away from mental health it's coming down is Mellie

haven't slept in weeks oh yeah he's go on a retreat for two weeks

anxiety exhaustion it's all coming don't do that Jessie leave meant to help the

[ __ ] out of this your help is fine mentally spiritually physically

everything was great with you you can concocted some wild [ __ ] story your shitty a planning doesn't mean you have

mental health well no I don't notice you do your planning he sent the note today he sent the note to the police but a

daughter Fox News but it didn't work that was a nice plan yeah look he over plans wait the cops found that the

magazines a shitty scream cops found the mess in the Nigerian boys with the house wit

pages missing Jessie baby baby yeah baby let's wait

for the investigation of finish well wouldn't you think that someone that went through all this would would have some mental health issues like you gotta

be a little crazy to go to all this for what he ain't crazy no he's pretty crazy now okay

he crazy no I feel like you got to be a little crazy to go through all this [ __ ] desperate that's yeah it's desperation

not maybe assignment no no no no okay just be desperate he's just us he was

desperate alright let's make sure that's all and I mean backed I guess what Boosie was saying is really just see

neighbors is now doing interviews like fam we get you along yeah there's no

Trump supporters they live in this building like we didn't know what he was talking about saw them practicing Taekwondo outside the wild lie yeah it's

very involved like want to get rid off that show but we such a forgiving culture I'm not forgiving him no but I'm

just saying I'm not watching him buyer no no no I'm not saying we are we're such a forgiving a holter that if just if jesse was just come on say you know

what this is [ __ ] oh yeah we gonna poke jokes on him for awhile like three

four months like come on Jess come back to the culture maybe it's a standing ovation at the Tonys I'm gonna be

[ __ ] pissed I'm just saying bro he just got it he got it just come clean I said you know he's gonna get a standing ovation if he

screws mental health you will get something clean that's true just a

cleanser yeah that's true that's true too much cleanse cleanliness don't think

that's what Joe is suggesting we tried we try to clean it nothing st. John

nothing no Jesse ain't gonna do nothing but give us a whole new new

interview oh yeah about his mental course it's Barbara Walters all around he gonna find her yeah and then we're

gonna call him brave jesse was so brave Williams gonna shoot it he gonna try to

spin it like he was bringing awareness to hate crime mmm that's the crisis I

didn't do yet they're gonna I was just brain awareness and never even looked at it from there yeah yeah strong mover to I'll lay down and look

up well this is fat what do you think these are publicity that's not we're gonna weirdness just know this

Knickerbocker mall try to spin it like he's bringing awareness I'm a super spin

I'm telling you watch I know where this is going he better not I ain't just better not very worried about his mental

health is going to happen that's 1,000 wasn't happening that's not even a question for sure you know that you feel

like God just fed it to him now he's gonna do it even if he wasn't gonna do exactly what he was gonna get he has a

crisis manager yeah when you have a crisis management team you either checking in for exhaustion or you're

gonna say hey my mental health was all yeah speaking of mental health before we get into this Jesse [ __ ] did anybody

read about the what's the kid's name ymw Mellie yeah yeah yeah I did anybody read

about his bipolar schizophrenic yeah every tendencies that he had did it make

anybody look at the case differently yeah for sure I mean I don't know how

much truth there was to because I did read it just on a headline from not the most reliable source but he made but it

made sense it did suggest that all right this person wasn't gonna kill his friends but his split personality may have done it when you kill your friends

when you're smiling with that type of smell and the mug shot that the story

makes some sense that he's schizophrenic and I wonder if the kid I wonder if courts see that as a reason to be

lenient oh yeah different it'll be a different type of sentencing and where he goes it

may not just be straight to jail mmm go get some help they have special special allocations

when you have mental issues yeah they don't they don't prosecute it the same way yeah but is that the case for young

black people in Florida still you think I think that's anybody when some mental health thing I was where I

said I think it depends on your lawyer you look well that it over your lawyers gonna stash the facts to be honest all

right all right now wait does dis Jesse get arrested if this turns out to be the what it is you should I think it's a federal thing

I think it's probably a federal thing because if a hate crime then reporting a hate crime falsely is a federal thing mmm

it became federal when the letter guys a Wesen email oh yes because you involved the mail no

uh and that's federal I do I do another theory on how he could spin this with

the crisis people they may say that the other dude his boyfriend or whoever he did it with was in an abusive

relationship and he made him do it hmm I can see them flipping it all on these other two guys that had probably

nothing to really do with the idea of it he was an abusive relationship this is what he had to do he was threatening him

I had to go into this that big-ass Nigerian do wouldn't be enough for little justice Millette see how flipping [ __ ] with muscles

ain't wasting muscles on Jesse smelly wasting your muscles be somebody asking

your muscles you lose some money this workout every morning you think to beat

up Jesse Oh watch mental health abusive

relationship wasn't my idea that made me do it hmm I can see all that happened you baby

the [ __ ] out of here about that st. John are you doing man who suffer how are you just appeared sorry

damn Wayne he was channeled the YouTube people crazy shut up the fight of five people waste out nobody out goddamn

sorry guys hi everyone um hey John how you feeling man I feel fantastic

you feeling good yeah oh man I'm glad that you came and happy to have you here thank you for having me well I didn't

have your publicist wrong account for

your now I don't really know your relationship with mall but mall was pretty estatic you were gonna come man

he's trying to make me as a zit static and I just wasn't I don't [ __ ] them all like that but I did buy your album you

bought it I bought it iTunes yeah okay Spotify Spotify and I really really

really enjoyed it that's good I like that but but I will admit I just enjoy the music like I don't know much about

you like how that's why I'm here I bumped in no you here cuz more

that's why well what should people know about you outside it outside of you make really really good music I mean it's a

that's a long answer are you a plant like an industry plant plant like did Sylvia Rhone just put you

somewhere and I could break dredger here I could be like was your name just John and then she was like now you st. now

you know if I'm an industry plan right I like this y'all [ __ ] like to

speculate let's I'm an industry places

if potentially I'm an industry plan yes Ida came out of where so this is this is set up right the ground booklet I'm out

of Brooklyn industry plants come out of wonder sometimes how you gonna have the name one now now you got name Kashi ruff damn

Jersey go try to give us run though to give me your cross

Jersey don't do that bad rush me a Brunei Jersey Ohio no yeah you please I don't

know all right I'll take it some more but I did some plans from Brooklyn somewhere now I'm sure well you locate him you let me know Matt

rock bands in the right man yeah you like the indie rock scene was all Williamsburg hipsters yeah but it was

from Ohio yeah Saint John tell me tell me if it's tell me in your opinion if

it's more difficult today to get on and stay on uh versus maybe 10 years ago

maybe whenever you were trying to get on and stay on okay truth be told is

advantages and disadvantages it's not as simple it's easier because the access is easier that's easier I can get to you I

couldn't get to you ten years ago exactly I can get to anybody in this room as quickly as I would if you call mall ten years ago you two found me to

process by the way I like this setup

thanks man this is low-key yeah we are I wasn't afraid at all we're welcoming

here st. John I like the elephant water yeah that is cool and some other thing right you offered us some things in

return was I clear is that rumor start

right I contributed edibles that was my offering my gym I you know you come to

someone's home this could be something I don't know who lives in who lives here me parks is my part okay see I gave me my

gate oh right got it I know if you can he said hey do you know your dosage and I heard you say that in my head on like milk parks is

white trash yeah um all right come on

more you lead this thing man I really I really want to say - come on like I was telling you because I feel like a lot of

people don't know about Saint I'm not think that's gonna change but I just I do the way I know Saint is away from

just being a talented [ __ ] artist I think he's such interesting dude a masterclass [ __ ] no

no this real [ __ ] she's gotta go he's just like a really really funny smart

intellectual like thinker and I think that he's perfect for this platform and I really want people to get that from

one leg away from the music you know he's the too talented it's like but I think that your style is a is so unique

because I see a lot of magazines and publications calling you a rapper I don't call you a rapper you my man I

don't think you know that but I never refer to you as a rapper I appreciate I refer to you just as an artist like I think that you're just there's so many

things that you do with your music but I think that has a lot to do with your personality though like I think your personality is like do you call yourself

a rapper I wouldn't consider it I'm not looking for the boxes I'll need the boxes yeah well why I'm interested that

you're here when I first saw your music I didn't see an image of you I thought you were gonna do the mysterious type

thing so I am kind of surprised that you would come out and do an interview I thought she was gonna do the whole I'm

gonna go behind the scenes I'm gonna talk to anyone you're like being sane yeah if you look at all the imagery from

the last project like you're not really front and center of everything yeah I'm

sexy I'm cool I know that don't write like I don't got a drawer he's not used to being sexy and cool what are you used

to be what I wanna know no I thought it was important to just put let them let the music speak for

itself let the content this create its live on by itself it should be able to live without me is there a struggle in

it for me no hmm it's worked yeah I can only tell you about my story I can tell

you other people have used mystery and mystique yes that wasn't the intention I just wasn't okay I didn't want myself

for my artwork mmm you know and you think you'll be out there more with this

next promo run with your next project with you being front and center I won't be on the our work for that either okay I paved the way for those guys do

you have just one right god I just want you okay collection one gotcha yeah but you've written for a bunch of yeah yeah

I started right that's what he asked my an industry plan I was like maybe it sounds guy like how'd I sound first of all that sounds like

I was way less broke and I was so let's stick to your story plan [ __ ] that

means I got I've been lit for a long time all right all right no I was writing from I wrote for sure

she Donna Kaiser button you know become fans a bunch people mmm how he discovered is that very generic question

would no it wasn't a discovery process it was I went out and I beat like I beat the pavement and built an audience I

think it's an important question I was writing for other people and I didn't think that was that interesting for me hmm like who are you writing for before

I sure found you before I found like a Rwandan baby found Bieber yeah no no he

got sent a record of mine that I wrote I was writing and I was you know you pitch records you write there bright records

to give them another artist would you do this with one producer or just kind of runner yeah I was doing one one producer okay okay cuz the okey-doke the game is

you'll write one Brecker to change your life you know one song will change your life make a no that's it's [ __ ]

it is change a lot of lives you don't something for you it's gonna be 500

records before that one refresh so I wasn't it just wasn't fun mmm beyond

that I'm I'm diluting it I think it wasn't as profitable as it could have been you sound smart man we I'm school

with smart he said you went to school

don't got none you gotta get creative mmm you smart that's real you went to

school no all right you snatching in those Doritos in North Carolina you told me I was real so naturally I wasn't

nega-chin they talked to me in high school they wave my school okay that's all um

where's my phone because there are some are actual topics that I want to talk to you about I wanted to get to mall first

would let's get right into our Kardashian breakdown where we're at about somewhere near 90 minutes you are

our Kardashian insider senior crashing course money word Chloe was a master Kardashian glass

toaster - good times yeah what were you

thinking when you invited Jordan to that party first of all let me be very clear I didn't invite anybody anywhere mall

has been in New York mana his business but but tell us what happened there because you fit we're on fasteners just

I'm just disappointed only because I think when Tristan when he was in a headline before for getting caught out

there with women I thought he was gonna change I thought he was gonna play you listen I gotta cool out I mean we only

went 12 games you have a lot of time to know yeah great I don't ever pay

attention or care about anything car - what we have a podcast oh the only report I saw was he had a party chick

stayed over yeah that's what that means that's this sounds how much that sounds

innocent but I think it was a little more than and something tells me he doesn't have a small house sounds like a hospitable host yeah yeah yeah but you

can be too hospitable when you have a baby you know in a government I mean that's true you know I mean you can be a little too hospitable but that's my

sister-in-law's like home girl I can't look out for family yeah I mean you got a girlfriend and a baby you can't look

out - no I can't help what's the rule of thumb Joe you got a girlfriend you got I

have a fee on raised the child the first

one okay let's count the one that counts there oh yeah I'm about a year and I'm raising him they're losing naps all that all

right what are we asking me what's it what's the appropriate thing yeah would you can you be to house we had a party yeah you get he knows Joe knows ESS okay

/ pitiable y'all have brought me right to the place I want to be at yeah this

is why I'm having a hard time gauging what went on or not st. John my girls

have never had friends I'd [ __ ] that's disappointing what a shitty

relationship the girlfriend was never thinking about I haven't had a

girlfriend that brought over the gang gang gang and it was like time time time

it's never happy and it was about about this interesting ever actually and the

more I think about it the opposite has occurred like weird chick getting a relationship with you and now feel like

she is not hanging out with all her fine friends mm-hmm it's like all the ugly friends is coming through for

Thanksgiving that just means you haven't

spent enough time in LA mmm I'm not allowed to speak to or anybody I've met

in Italy that's the rule that's just the

real of it and I mean if you keep talking to me about this it's gonna allow my brain to go into why I even have fights in my house about other

women and my girl likes girls so yeah man but wait last week I try to you ever

have like a moment of vulnerability with your girl with you trick you in the kickin it with her we're always just

friends st. John two weeks ago I say that same [ __ ] Amen I don't really give

my brain in Bali but I mean yeah she let

that one float right over Wow she said I see what you mean completely

next week they got elephant memory Pham you know you know you think walk in a house on a

Saturday about that yeah that's kind of wild at your ex is that logic and had a

baddy two-shoes bad I'm missus you sorry mom all will have

to keep us up to date with all knows that happened it's over well y'all

lutely not chief they work out I'm super inclusive but no [ __ ] way fam if your traps are harder than mine I want to

party happen your homie can't walk in

the room and somebody get massaged and they don't know who's the guy in who's the girl that's the problem yeah that's an issue

but see Joe's perception of was diesel was throwing me off cuz yeah who'd you say was diesel grows our coach he said

Rosa cause she's not diesel no man she's

not diesels Jesus did she have like the little things in the quad that's fine that's that's going on hi this is Joe

Budden from the Joe Budden podcast how you doing rollercoaster um well how are

you doing

Rosa listen we're having a debate in the studio okay and I needed your expert

opinion I was I was I was talking to the fellas about [ __ ] diesel chicks oh boy

I never thought that these old chic I never even thought that this'll do Wow but let's slow down I've been image like

the way she taught them I'm in keep a safari she can hear you wait Rosa Rosa Rosa wassup army Rosa

listen yes do you think would you consider yourself to be diesel no no

[ __ ] ain't [ __ ] that's what diesel

is the bodybuilder chicks yes that's diesel that's diesel Rosa I asked a

bunch of men in here who are not attracted to diesel chicks and they all said they would we know I show you pick

some higher cool Road now you've been you've been good are you thinking oh wow listen no no she

said maybe it's not a group chat right Rosa bro them all right here I'm right

here mall is right say hi to mall mall hi Rosa how you

doing good all right that's all that's all I needed that's all I needed Rosa thank you man

next next time oh you're gonna come to our live podcast in LA what was that are

you gonna come to our live podcast in LA of course yes all right good I will good

good good hearing from you we're gonna go back to talking about diesel chicks okay love you rosa one comment what is Manos

Rosa I know let's get back a State job okay well you get roses we even talk we

are not even talk what's so wait I thought we called so we could talk so I could talk to no es s so you can assess

she she's gonna sent a real-time one I need it in real time good man but you'll

be in LA more sturdy so you I will be the show you need to perform actually

that's a damn live on there just not be

like look at MOSFET performing yeah sure well that's what I said about you even being friends no that's true that's true

listen come on let's talk about y'all want to talk about where do we finish with Tristan and his girl that's fine oh

right handle forgive me Amazon Amazon said Amazon pulled out of their plans to

come to a story as soon as they heard Park say he puts bacon bits and collard greens I don't know I was I was

listening to homeboy he said Queens was looking funny now it was right after that podcast these are pretty big

podcast there's a lot of bacon bit that bacon bits so yes the thing at the ripped up bacon

bacon they refuse to send that in your Amazon Prime the order could you know

pause they like this with the bacon no that's racist

it's a different job it's becoming like a little jar bacony collard greens is

sick but that do you all want to talk about is everybody here well-versed and and Mike Rappaport versus Meek Mill yeah

as well-versed is so happy I didn't really care about this too much but the internet did other people

st. John don't hear about any of this now are you oh you were who Michael Rapaport is of course Michael Rapaport

over the weekend during meek mill's all-star performance said that Meek Mill

never rhymes on beat and he said Meek Mill is a great story and it's having a great year but it's a

horrible rapper Wow rap on beat yeah that's how it started as a horrible rapper Wow he raps I'll be

fairly well yes why is that or why and that's why I was gonna call Mike and say Mike like white people call to say yeah

we wear the beetle we don't flap on the right beat started why did he start

they definitely clap on a one so they Meek Mill chimed in and said who the [ __ ] is this guy to ever call anything

in our culture trash watch your [ __ ] mouth and when the Dreamchasers catch you know it's a dream yeah stamps with

the dream chasers oh my god Mike Oh Michael Moore that's Mike that's me but

he literally grabs on be time some so confused Danny's a good rapper yeah sorry my

iation down the meat you know there's so many other rappers that you could say are not good rappers yeah yeah we Lando

meek there's a lot yeah it's a good rap he kept going he was like listen my wife is killing me right now cuz she likes me

to listen Mike that's normally a great sign of when you should shut the [ __ ] up if your dream chases your wife when your

wife is home Sam fam well he's all beat what are you talking about wait this is never like a black wife I

don't know yeah I don't know he does right yeah I feel like that makes sense my everybody you Michael I didn't come

one those were the beetus yeah and Mike shouldn't have won our fantasy football whoa oh he won he won that's

why he's good yeah but he beat me by three because everybody was beatable Adam no he wouldn't wanted the chasers

was their big star killing Mike's role in higher learning

yeah you should he did Mike he killed that he killed that Rover well they was

saying he killed it a little too well oh that's what Mike was saying I love Mike was saying that the streets were saying

that while st. John is here cuz you know none of us here know anything about

fashion so so we can have you be our fashion insider what do you think of

this whole Burberry this whole Burberry noose around the neck during their fashion we are not ever there I'm not

with that that's not creative for me that just represents something for me that I don't want to think about on a day-to-day basis like that that's not

fashion I don't know what that is yeah stupid question time do you is it time

for do you guys think that by now these companies are doing this on purpose

absolutely I think it was it was a video going around about uh that's just that's

a part of their marketing like they have pieces that will cause an uproar and the

outrage for outrage marketing yeah that's that's part of it I wish like they'll do something like how Burberry

just did with the noose especially in

this day and age I mean I can speak to how they do it in the liquor brands and they do specific things to make sure

specific people do not purchase their product anymore mm-hmm that's different so from doing [ __ ] just to please I'm

saying I'm saying there's something I think there's something there that's when this became a trend it was a thing

there was a thing with I feel like it's one of the Jenner's or Kardashian's that they have see thing yeah may be really

clear intentionally to retweeted saying people are outraged about this thing or you talk about the video

I was just I was just trash that wasn't yeah right yeah once you know when she

she saved all races with opening Pepsi she brought us all together yeah

yet I was just tone deaf but I just so all of it comes off tone-deaf and I mean

I mean it's degrees though right that much Burberry wins the degree Wars fact

like like it's horrible as blackface is I can understand 20 white people

thinking that it's not that bad oh yeah sure I can't I could see 20

disillusioned white people approving that thinking that is high fashion and

say 40 let's double it but I mean I mean with with the black market driving the

way that it is and with white people trying to tap into that market and not knowing how as horrible as it sounds I

could see how maybe forty people might think blackface is cool and that's giving and that's giving the

using the utmost leniency yeah I'm that's not that's crazy step forward

even if forty white people in bar don't know white people were like you are absolutely right yeah but and for the

sake of for this conversation blackface on a bubble jacket in comparison to a

nuisance see the noose heck I don't I can't understand a situation where you

would not know that's furthermore not even don't even look fly it's not even fly [ __ ] that they doing but that's what I don't understand about like even the

blackface sweater like that just wasn't fly there's no there's no way that you

think that that's okay right well they say there's no way we're drawing in some she's marking wrong so they were really

[ __ ] outrage [ __ ] there were outraged working that is outrage marketing you know it is it's a

real thing it's offensive to black people it's a pen it's offensive to mental health people and that's what

they wanted that's the flow because that gives you the book up because what we're seeing is that just adds eyeballs and

that's the ever that that we're in the Mellie kid you know he allegedly killed

his two friends to saw goes to number one our Kelly we cancel him the streaming songs no up like Jesse

Jesse that I'll raise my head in to that that is where we are and and you know the sick part I think I don't think

Jesse manufactured that on his own that's the sick part about it crisis management seen their before I think

that he got that from somewhere else

whatever circle yeah that we're just looking at what works and what doesn't work as far as attention-seeking goes it's

outreach marketing min that's the thing that's [ __ ] up there's the thing well how do you not fall for it that's the

problem there's no way to that's why it works well not for works what it fails isn't

the buy-in just having a conversation about the exact marketing for them right

now exactly you know you'd say that but with with who did that new [ __ ] was that uh

Burberry yeah I've been stopped for berry ain't anybody at the baby shower

the baby shower thing turned from a joke to like actual that's a feeling now people get Burberry for the baby shower

left I was suit and still look trash in my baby show is outrage marketing or

insensitivity maxed out like disrespecting the dollar you think about it like this dar Adal ain't worth [ __ ] it's cool we

like the idea enough that it doesn't matter that it offends them enough because they're dollar isn't that valuable to us I don't think they feel

like that I think they feel like more people wreath will retweet this [ __ ]

in anger then they would get retweets in they get positive yeah they get more

free marketing from this Soulja Boy when he went on his whole little rant about

he's never wearing Gucci again and he said Gucci sent him some shade then he burnt the Gucci headband he did all this

[ __ ] in my head I'm like that's all this free promo for Gucci yeah what do you

what are you doing that's my shirt burns Lloyd went right into Gucci and stood

outside and did a whole five-minute free commercial I know he's not really thinking like that but for Gucci I mean hard to

see where they lost and and believe me when I was stuffy 40 white people at the

top of those offices are thinking disruptive like you now think they really they got severe they got some

interns and young kids in that marketing department that are taking and what these I mean these type of places they

hire agencies that specifically think about these exact types of thing they're not sitting with a legitimate marketing

team their marketing team is hiring an outside agency that does the [ __ ] for a living like that's all they focus on

which is why it's really important you know I cry out to you companies and corporations please hire some black

people hmm please hire black people if I if if I am to give you the benefit of

the doubt and say that you're really just trying to gain access to the black dollar like if I'm taking you at your

word that you were inspired by the Marines you were inspired by what that

black face did they said it was from some artists some [ __ ] you know they can they come up with some [ __ ] [ __ ] about what they was inspired by but if

I'm taking you at your word you have to start huh if you're trying you can't tap

into the black market and the black dollar without black people right or

without some people of the culture who come from that who speak to that who stand for that who represent that you'll

you'll bypass a lot of these very very I don't even that Saul to say Trump is

outrage marketing it's to say it all is it's kind of the same thing it's tied in like they don't care if it out rages you

or me that cares about what you think they just care the conversation is being

had and there's gonna be some [ __ ] that says you know what that's not so bad I actually kind of [ __ ] my name is Floyd

Mayweather and he just posted a picture and all Gucci today saying I'm a leader right sinister but in my sin my sick hey

that's what's happening again my head is sick so this shouldn't be a point of reference for anybody but on my way to

the podcast today I was thinking damn well how will how are they gonna repurpose racism in 50 years

like when Trump is gone it's happening right when we're I know which is why I'm asking how it will be done in 50 years

because of because of the Cree native ways that it's happening now how

are they gonna do this when my kid is [ __ ] fifty years old well forty years old but they're they're happy because I

don't believe their racism is going away no no what aren't they saying in the next fifty years most of us a large part

of the population will just look brown so what is that what does that mean even what is racism in 50 years yeah what is

it prejudice against inanity I think it's still exist even if everybody's brown so what do you think it's brown

versus browner yeah yeah yeah sick

that's it Wow so that's sick that's wild yeah but it's happening now and I mean I

haven't seen that form yet that's all that sounds that sounds crazier than anything I've experienced like what does

that mean like what is the purest Brown what do we go that's crazy well maybe people will find a way yeah I mean you

could look at you could look at you could look at certain women groups where

that type of complexion war exists and at a deeper level what what does it mean

what does it mean when the light-skinned girl and the dark-skinned girl are beef and what doesn't mean when the mixed

girl and the black girl are beef and what does it mean when the asian girl what do it mean when different minority

groups are beefing over the same thing that would be for white people about so a lot of it comes from where yeah like

that's a different level of like it's hard for me to envision it because I don't live like that all right like I don't look at people like that I don't

treat people like that it's not the world I see hmm I'm gonna I think there's more people

like that by the way then maybe even that there are at least in this country in these regions in the liberal

quote-unquote regions I think there's more people that think they don't really think about that [ __ ] but the way they

spin it in media narratives and in all this [ __ ] outrage marketing it makes

everything amplified in ways it's not really realistic st. John and this is a segue but it's fine st. John do you feel

away do you feel a way about um about us not knowing the details to cap Colin

Kaepernick's settlement I mean we all speculate right we all saw

the number this the speculative 60s or 6d after anywhere from 60 to about 25

the fight became a bigger fight that became a larger issue it wasn't just

about football it became about it was a protest in general right so he he was protesting and then he arrived at a

settlement we were fighting for him going he deserves so if he resolved this

issue begs the question do we go were happy to the issues resolved or we just

want to keep fighting well I wanted to come in and talk them all about it because Mall has been adamant about

boycotting the NFL what they stand for XYZ right and here you have Kaepernick

who we stood with who settled for and all that that's classified we can't know

anything about it but now there's also reports that he has every intention on playing in the NFL again and I'm and how

do we how do some of the people that stood with him feel about one not getting any information from a three to

four year battle hmm that I will have all the information I need when he's

back on the team and during the national anthem what he does I will have all the information I don't think he'll be back

on see him he will well team what he

does during the national anthem will tell me everything I don't even know why you don't think he wouldn't you Wow I

would hope he was still new if he doesn't did not know everything I need to know I mean what they did what they

did was illegal it was the company that was doing it to him money if you don't

knew you saying he can't kneel and that was written in there and then we're going looking at funny exactly fam and know if that was written it yeah

I am looking at him funny that's all I'm saying I just need to see what he does during the national anthem with parks I

don't see him more than a fella I think he should be but I'll to you will and I'll be honest I'm kind of looking at Matt that's a bit funny now still for a

while cuz they'd rather to sell him but now I want him to get his money I want to get all the money yeah because what happens

to the fight now I like I was standing with you huh I was man I was standing with you and I was fighting with ya I think I think he's up

for the cause guy now I think that's his full-time job good mmm yeah

and here aid at it he was very generous with his money prices great at it until well we don't know we arrived at a

settlement well maybe that's him we don't know that his silence wasn't purchased we don't know what this is well no we don't know what he is at

liberty to even speak about so y'all telling me what he's gonna continue fighting for I know that okay this is what I say I'll assume that he didn't

put that in there I hope let's see what happens yeah tell

me I want to give him the benefit of the doubt for now cuz of everything he's done brought it down for what tell me all the things you would [ __ ] cope -

if 90 million was in front of you it's a fuel what did he lose what he lose the first time though when he was off the

team yes he lost his career I'm saying he was gambling then to write a lot of Gerrits

yeah I mean football is less guarantees and most others yes you know a lot of the hundred shoot my own idea down he

probably knows was gonna go that far I'm sure that I'm sure not even if he is nail and he probably know he's gonna his

whole career was gonna out the window nothing you know I'm guessing I don't think this was a concocted plan that was gonna end at 90 million signed I don't

think that caused silver this is not outrage marketing no no but nose is legit I would like to think the Colin

Kaepernick is gonna continue standing for the things that he stood for prior and push this cause forward I think you

will nothing you won't care too much do y'all how do we feel about all this cop

guy trying to shoot 50 that's nuts that's crazy and it's not as here I mean

I've been alone I've been alive enough to see too many too people try to kill 50 Eduardo your turn

dream didn't get it done no no that's listen I'm with you on that but I took that and thought about how many times

they do that just two random kids in the street a lot yeah that's whole like people

stopped at 50 and I'm like damn if he talking like that about 50 how many

times you think these dudes be a patrol cars and just be like yeah let's just go and you know when we see that he was a

threat threatened let's just shoot him a lot that's crazy don't think it's lovemaking

somebody sat on it honestly yeah I thought about that [ __ ] it's fine don't worry about it buddy by the way our

product in this is not a product placement I just happen that what we

call product it's not migrate you socks

are great socks are the most underrated presence more on the side I earn more than one pair of socks is cool was that

no but I'll make it work don't the dryer we're large it's a large piece Christian

sex club pulling out since 1969 for

single you say yeah that's Cynthia John

no st. has some of the best merch hey you guys I went to his tour the best

where do you make most of your money from merch touring music it's spread

yeah it's spread smart and your merch is available online yeah just grab that car you go to do a

festival right roll out oh yeah are you performing 35th is that oh yeah how big

is your name in the fine give it to us actually oh no

xiety you you they have you at the bottom I ain't need to climb on at the bottom s yeah that's progress moving up

yeah absolutely I was at the bottom yeah I'm not getting me I might be in the middle now and I think you on the last

day the pop and I think it got talk to me different well he'll also be

performing live at the Joe Budden podcast March 30 how long you're rolling

out there gonna be if I'm 37 like 16 and a half minutes that's actually not too

bad though pretty good you're wrong out is an incredible festival route I've never been but it and she's like the

rabbit its rap coach other than that go not Lincoln X rap [ __ ] not gonna go I'm

never sure wouldn't go anywhere you go that's you know look funny no to me for

real this is Miami well well let me preface this Wakanda I'm not a concert goer oh so okay that

even I was really disappointed that I missed it needed Baker at Radio City Music Hall for Valentine's Day like

that's the type of constant Apple goes I would never go to some [ __ ] out of state with 90 [ __ ] I don't know I'm cool but

you find this culture though yeah I know I know but I want to rap where we going

with Noah but regardless this Howard dialogue your friend his culture like you performed in the same spaces you

know similar scenarios yes right people came out to your concert discovered you I hated them into you hated them I owe

you hit the shows see then Paul your festival is always been fun I hate it I'm just on me I have always hated a

performance punched in my face at rocky bells

[Laughter]

Wells is right now wrong especially if

I'm the message in a tiny tiny letters now all of them I was a tiny tiny

blooded [ __ ] come with you drunk yeah you know there's a whole culture to it man and I know you like I hate this [ __ ]

I don't what's the culture to a culture to watch two performances in engaging in imagine it's like 20,000 people jumping

up and down at the same time right feeling the same record in the same rhythm that's why people say it's not true but it's close enough you wanna say

like you know clever enough God is an energy to that now Joe you ready here's another perspective yeah none of you

Newton new [ __ ] none of you new [ __ ] really perform anywhere y'all just sing to the record that's in my

phone already no I totally do me one

year walking around the streets I hate

all of that [ __ ] I hate that I come on his podcast and have to talk about all the [ __ ] I hate but I was never a festival guy insane and you know what

let me be a little bit understanding of what you saying I attribute it to

festivals and all of them [ __ ] they wasn't really the thing when I was coming up anyway like we didn't get it

was only hope performing in arenas maybe him like and that was the end today his festivals for everybody

there's arenas for all of the biggest of X so I mean shows have evolved since I was in it

when I was in it now I wasn't going to see all you know I'm cool it's a load

there wasn't even that many for me it wasn't even that many people that I wanted to see like at a venue by

even when rolling loud does that [ __ ] and it be two three paragraphs of eighty million names it's maybe only seven

people that I want to see those are the seven you know right no metals time okay no no no I don't just go to see people I

know like sometimes you want to hear new music sometimes you want to hear the person that's been bubbling over here

but you just didn't get a chance to actually see them you want to see the person that's that's kind of developed their own audience but maybe you didn't

get a chance to you know is it's a chance to see the energy that you might have missed I just don't want to see

that the energy from so many people that's it that's all there's also a lot

of other things happening Rory goes to

what's the Philly festival made in America made in America Rory does that a lot of people up here do that do a lot

of festivals bro rock the bells being on them at one point rock the bells is like an adult festival I could do that

because it's only it's like what's hanging grades yeah listen [ __ ]

rolling layout is dope if you in Miami or near the Miami area I'm not flying

down there to do it you fill up your star game I'm about to show you parallel

you don't give a [ __ ] about that anyway no okay cool it's the same thing same yeah same concept yeah yes this is

definitely similar credit you think about all the the players that are in you know conversation on the court at

the same time as a spectacle it's a sporting event yeah just for music all the [ __ ] that are the [ __ ] at the time and they all

show up and there's 8,000 of them you going this year to roll down your the

final day I'm gonna find out there what day is this March posters headline and

on Sunday and the marsh let's do this yes Joe come on if my girl lets me go

I'll let you go well I don't know I just went to Miami was a big deal it's like I'm fine [Laughter]

Lando Houston I can't hop up and go damn

Seattle she keeps saying I'm coming with you Seattle's a wild place well tell me

what place y'all could go and not get smoke from your girls hey Johnny you know u2 popping bless you right now oh

you go hi hey listen don't text my phone just don't text me and Sam all right

[ __ ] pop it now st. here rocks Dominic a no girl yes yes yeah friends I got a

lot of friends a lot of friend great friends yeah I see you're wearing an A in claim insane clown posse shirt yeah I

like the colors do you like the group like the colors okay so all white so

what I like okay Saint John sometimes

it's not right man sometimes sometimes on this podcast holy

hell let me play this real quick [Music]

if you love perform hissing rolling loud big I have there [Music]

this is my [ __ ] though hi Miami's hit

this spend even crazy when you created this I was in New York yeah definitely

doesn't he was trying to get on rolling loud thirsty-ass sometimes we do lyric

breakdowns in this block what is in here

you know the filling right single no

tefillin right right I wish we were both somebody else so we wouldn't be somebody else's that's a ball thinking that I

love this artist that's know this is

sick this is my [ __ ] though glad you like saying that [ __ ] to that base is crazy yeah horse me I feel real good with that

base you go get a girl no time make a nice box they line up though they're

ready they was in there very pleasant he had a very pleasant don't let the cool do beautiful yeah oh yeah it looks like he got a whole bunch

of [ __ ] of this like Reggie but I'd like to know but then like the models don't like the room out of there like Reggie yeah specific model

[Laughter] when you next join coming I think April

yeah I thought announcement go out today the little management announcement last night I saw it that's cool

didn't I hit mall immediately and say yo this thing on some type of promo run it or some [ __ ] like I'm seeing management

announcements from your brother is like a family related thing yeah so I don't want happening up here funny but that's

my beef with a lot of y'all a lot of a lot of y'all newer AG st. John like you

really really funny how would somebody know that listening to your music you gonna do really bright how would I knew

that time doing it I gotta go to one loud you got an answer to seminar I guess me ya know dis your persona yeah

wait how your persona who yes and now [ __ ] know [ __ ] like oh he's great he

was just right no you won 15 years of people thing you the angry a good job

trying to incorporate that in his early he was early on that wave so he tried to

incorporate his personality a lot more but yes st. John is definitely a personality that people need to know to

st. John do you think that J Cole willingly invited fab to the dreamville brunch in Charlotte yeah I think I mean

there you go I think you said the [ __ ] puts his hand on anybody you'd said that yeah why not why wouldn't me are you

calling fat no I'm not doing it let's

see 50 and some cop Antonio you guessed it dot Brown I suit you did the we left

for now yeah yeah Antonio Brown yeah full of brown the crazy Browns

not each other no yeah oh yeah and they

told me Monica's last name was brown we know how real she give it up that's true Jim name is brown he is nuts that's

six Browns like the brown clan is definitely crazy what else do I have in telling parents

walk down you are like these with cheeks pettiest reason that you did it someone st. John let me hear pettiest reason

that you did it a female I'll start and give you some time to think it was at a scary movie a scary movie yeah come on

walk me through that come on why you jumped off of me and she never for me

again so scary movie just screaming too wild and scary movie I got ghost no pun

my dead chicks cuz they can't dress that's crazy

the fly is making the world had like one fly outfit that night and then the next

day he was like my mother now next is my walk in first thing first first article

you look at on the chick that can't dresses at the shoes not a first Jean

let's give it away that Candra oh I got I want the [ __ ] up here the whole [ __ ] went bad

the hair was [ __ ] up in my mind everything is left yeah class Snickers

yeah I'm not letting you go with no track I can't do it yeah there she what

if she has like kind of that Williamsburg dirty type of girl no

you're engaged you're engaged yeah yeah we can't answer you you got engaged when

I was at the brunch using will we talk to each other where did the engagement happy Oh My another sir by the koi pond

yeah by the pond wait pond the koi pond I don't know if there was quite fish in there it was a koi pond guru was there

yes I do do st. John a guru you did what school oh you was at the brunch I was

then did you eat no need even though there was food dreamville rush I think

so fab Denis fab one you know North Carolina shrimp and grits Nick you think

it invited often forget it never mind

we'll move on what else is there to move on to let me see let me see what's important wasn't born what support Rory

has a theory about girls with cool moms but it's such a great theory that we'll have to save it for the next podcast

it's probably more appropriate for the Saturday pocket thanks anyway even though this is kind of a Saturday I'm

narrow hey this today is Saturday I'm not sure what Rory is trying to tell us with that oh yeah hope you you don't

know hope he's not being toxic we tune in next week yeah everything

toxic I learned was from at the cool moms teaser tray as keep [ __ ] with

chicks with cool mom yeah I bet he do so

he just wants to [ __ ] that look family parks wanted to end look at his girls

face wait for us to get the [ __ ] out listen we were talking off off-mic about

just some of the pressures that come along with being a new artist having to deliver in this microwave era and I was

saying how that will probably intimidate me a little bit like in a moment of vulnerability like having to produce

every four to five four to six months and that is the predicament y'all find

yourselves in right I mean you talk about the people that don't got it if they don't got it oh god oh like designee me I don't know but he was

curtain Kanye mm yeah if you got it what you worried about mmm losing it or or over producing it no I

mass producing it mass producing it that's one thing but like like Fetty had

it and came out and then had seven number ones in the span of a year and in the next year it was difficult and

people stopped viewing him as the guy who had seven want number ones or number top five hits in a year right it's like

you got to do it every night you think about it it's sportsmanship you got to

do it every night mmm you cost your ring last year I was last year and that's for anybody just in general that's what you

got to be Jordan every night hmm huh when when you think of it like that it

opens up so many other doors for the the negative might be Jordan know when you think of it like that understand what

Jessie paid them to attack

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little Prada rope around me Burberry this stuff with the Burberry Roman round

Burberry news think about it Wow we

don't think about it alright so saying is not worried about having a [ __ ] overdose was that I didn't y'all don't

use that why you've done more project-based [ __ ] rather than just doing the Lucy thing cuz that is kind of

the wave now just put out a bunch of different singles on streaming and see what clicks and I'm not wrong that I bought it bought a bunch of st. John

Lucy's before that Roger came out well now that he has this project so you

knew the music before see the music before I hate these Mellie Mellie keep

putting out and I love Mellie [ __ ] god damn it I love Mellie Mellie keep putting out a new record every Friday

and I keep buying it you guys okay that's [ __ ] plays over the fact that

you buying it but just I could be buying

music st. I'm confused what what do you consider buying it when you press download know when you press purchase

they get high which press purchase got a hold a phone up to your face go to your

inbox I'm not so much streaming you know like you just like buying music you and by then he streams it from mp3 you just

like buying mp3's he's just supporting what Dorian I would be a clown for

purchasing where artists like you are not really being paid for the music Oh

me you should not be able to mock me for purchasing music oh you have two hours like me yes you now get paid for my

music yeah the fam we don't have time to get into no no what what you get from streaming services versus what you

should get from street well it's a whole other conversation legging and let the Spotify but there's legal bootlegging

going on so that's how I started purchasing a bunch of music st. because I was an artist so damn we're not really getting paid from

streaming [ __ ] putting their blood sweat and tears in the studio I still want to be able to purchase the music and just have it in my inbox for me to

pull up whenever I want to not when I have Wi-Fi not when not when the playlist is rockin like I want to be

able to play things when I want to play them so I buy me a spare that's trash nah you get to live your life the way

you want to but you don't buy me isn't Rory you don't do with mp3 not pay for

streams there is the same thing you do with this possible space the spaces I

mean I take videos I've been what you

got a gig raised pictures was always the

man with some space in my phone well you

you you you don't know my music sometimes about music sometimes II save

on mostly streaming though I'll biophysics vinyl I'll buy ya and I'll

buy a I listened to it enough times about you I gotta buy this [ __ ] look if I don't get that much but I mean a lot

of I listened a lot of older stuff to which I purchased that I just put on my phone in my iTunes yeah so wait yeah I guess new music you

know feel like you stealing when you stream no honestly I paid them who do

you all pay for Apple title and Spotify mm-hmm I have Spotify I don't think I

pay for cuz I'm Joe from Oak Oh Joe

three months normal stuff you know that should rocks for the duration of our contract which is two years there's a

promo code Joe feel free to use it if you want to use Spotify I don't pay for uh up here I'm gonna call them Apple pay

I don't walk with them down there down the Dal Taito is cool but this is a

spotify podcast and more on rorey keep trying to make it a title please Saint John is with title he's

made title sound like a game I get my

animals card then yeah who do you side with in labels versus the tech companies

introduce the argument for me ah the labels want to sign all you guys and

take all of your rights without paying you anything and the tech companies want you guys to make great music and make

all the money that you're supposed to make they're taking a cut so it's not that simple yeah you're taking a cut like the record

companies know they know they can nowhere near cousin Oh money either why

do they have to a get a tech company and then erect leave that's why it's a I'm sorry that's well that's why I'm asking

him where he falls an argument I'm always gonna lean on the artists side I'm artists friendly but that doesn't

say which side I'm all artists because I think are you started to live I have a partnership yeah okay I think it depends

on I think what's more his converse or your partner with hako okay my label

goes to this got it I think depends on the side of the conversation so you know it's not as simple it's not as cut and

dry is of course the labels want the rice historic [ __ ] right the tech

companies are just they're just making it more difficult for the labels but then they when did drugs with the labels

they want deals but they're trying to not deal with them to labels what stock yes

they're trying to not deal with the label but there is a downside to the whole complete you can be against most

assume core now spot uh sound clouds doing the direct touch about this is a great time for parks to tell us what

SoundCloud is doing yeah they're doing they basically do a tune core thing you can go through SoundCloud to distribute to all the major services good good lot

of fun that's smart yeah how do we feel about Universal buying in groove we didn't talk about

that right no no that was pretty big a lot of people probably don't know in groups they put on a lot of big-name grooves is great yeah yeah it's great

and it has been great for a long time there used to be with Warner as like a

just a distribution partnership or something like that and now there's the universal so it's a big deal but

it's the same time it's something bigger jump bigger deal when Goudy sales empire oh you think God's gonna sell em buddy

wait now on let me do a slow pan left to st. gentlemen yes I do you know leaf

firmly that was guys he's gonna sell anyway and I'm on in buyer I'm on Empire

hit go through we're for you Empire do you not think Ghazi will sell

Empire I 100 see what the other play is something about the way it your cadence

tells me you know something that somebody might not know so tell me all the things you know let me I want to make an informed guess the myth all

right well my inform guesstimation is the major labels know that Ghazi is

smarter than them yeah like it's not a secret um they've known it for a few

years now empire has built up the catalog like the same way I'm looking at

any grooves being valuable to Universal on why they would be empires catalog is

way greater than that so their value that they don't have pretty good catalogs but Empire does have a

phenomenal kind of I think a man Empires catalog would be valued a bit higher it

might be then they both what I'm saying I'm not trying to [ __ ] on n groove [ __ ] group sing Empire price big

attacks I think Empire is gonna do the in groups thing at a higher evaluation

that's what I think and if I'm just looking at Ghazi for the last few years how he's been parted up with basically

majors how he's basically the Empire models very smart though like they help

you if they [ __ ] with you and if they don't it's basically to court now that

sounds like we're well stagers sure I

don't think shaking hands makes you friends I think sometimes you do a deal to expand your business I've had lots of

conversations with Ghazi I be some I'd be a little surprised based on the perspective he sits from and why he does

woody does why Empire runs away it does all surprised the people that helped Empire run away that it runs they've

left take on great positions elsewhere off the fruits of their success why

bleat guising be any different is all I'm saying you beg an interesting question but I

want to what point so what available well I do it for what well the course for the money the question I have for you is what happens to you if he does my

distributor is a different distributor

but but to your point that you're not making I imagine a lot of people would

be paying attention in the event that Ghazi were to sell yeah I would be one

of them by the way yeah even in me not releasing music I will be paying attention for sure do you think he's an

ex major label if he doesn't so let's say he doesn't say bottle is gonna be the major label of the future yeah what

if he's in exit Lant ik in terms of market share how big it is if that means

if you're not a premier artist for them they don't really care no disrespect to them because they are still helping you get distributed

but if Ghazi doesn't sell these [ __ ] have a problem yeah they already have

he's been there early they it's a problem now has been a problem yeah but that's why they're in cahoots with him

that's why I'm saying shaking hands don't make you friends that's in the

podcast I don't have a Netflix review for you guys I watched velvet buzzsaw and the coming attraction was much

better than the actual movie minute micro and they could keep getting me what's his name I don't know anything

just no Levi dies it was a movie called Nightcrawler with Jake DeLong

oh yeah take the loma see pictures for the Mets right now watch Gyllenhaal hey

Vic said jigged alone fellas very far

Jake Gyllenhaal Jake Delhomme wait so they had a preview for that at the

beginning of this Netflix movie preview for what the Nightcrawler movie you

should know humming attraction know the I saw the coming attraction in January for a Netflix movie called velvet

buzzsaw featured Jake homeboy cops um and when I saw Jake homeboys feature I

was like damn that looks like a great film and now the film came out and it was just cool okay so that's all I got

they're not [ __ ] oh come on let's play some sleepers man it's good to [ __ ] out here st. John was amazing man st. st.

st. John doesn't seem to lack for personality like a lot of the newer kids who were performing at Rowling loud

[Music] [ __ ] let me live yeah I'm here puppy go

nobody go to play I got it Oh mol has it oh no [ __ ] yeah I don't weigh no st.

John's exclusive joke one podcast world probably one hit Oh st. John if you know

[ __ ] I guess this is a conversation

that should be at home like once you start I'm about to once you start classifying it as something other than

hip hop hip hop dies so the I've heard from some purists that

if we don't if we start leaving this to something different than hip hop does way to a degree this has an influence

from hip hop no no nice hip hop you just

it's not pure rapping no it it doesn't have to be pure emotion to be of course not [ __ ] I thought 808 heartbreaks was

still classified under the John well I'm

trying to think of something that always

had that variation of melodies of course you know that's not yeah you're right that's why it is it is well you're right

that's why I'm not saying dad that's not hip-hop because it is hip-hop the fact

that is is more about being melodic doesn't change that for me and like you

could even go back to rock as an example of when they started breaking it down into sub genres that that's kind of what

killed rock heavy metal heavy metal turn ative rock rock etc now rotation no but

there's still some good rock from time to time it's rare but it happens every couple years is a dope problem always on

the side of hip-hop and when we started talking about rock like I'm cool

no I'm just saying that once you start exactly what the rocker said would happen to hip-hop happen to rock and I'm

that sympathetic about it no yeah no actually think that's arias I feel what

you're saying I'm just saying that once we start classifying hip-hop in different genres it might doubt it could

you know that's not necessarily good for the overall bro do you think the probability is of that because I think

it's it's a lot less than it was in rock that's my point no I think they're gonna start sub

categorizing at some point because the white people are scared are they but what would they sub categories that no I

don't think therefore I think they're gonna want to start putting things in different labels - yo this is not gangsta Street but we want to play it on

the radio but they've been doing it I think the white people are incentivized to make all hip-hop not gangsta Street

[ __ ] let's listen okay you know it had to feel like is their job to clean all this [ __ ] so when I hear [ __ ] like Saint

just play right like that plays into that from me and I'm not sure how the

labels the three major labels would even be incentivized to call it something

else because that's what would have to happen they would have to be incentivized somehow to make this a new

genre right the same way podcasting is a new genre because certain people are incentivized to make it a new genre yes

I am talk radio but it just doesn't that's to me I don't know because and now you have people that are because I

think people that make music that sounds like that I don't think that that's the only music that they want to make I

think that that's just absolutely like me that's what leans me the same point because the hip-hop that I grew on that

I grew up on Chuck D all the exclaiming all of them [ __ ] they were telling you

to speak to your surroundings right I mean that's really all that they were

saying speak to your surroundings and raise awareness about it so if I'm

listening to like the newer Vipers or whatever we want to call these kids that

is all the kids are doing using the latest tools to speak to the environment

around them they're just doing it differently but that's still the

core of hip-hop to me so this is an important conversation to have with people like Saint with some of the new

or acts with some of the older acts just so we can gain some understanding cuz I think a lot of us are confused yeah yeah

but even in what album is like you know we've had these very simple questions don't don't require so simple answers

what I will say is I'm glad that podcasts like this exist what I will say

is I'm glad that there's this new level of transparent information being shared

that artists and my day weren't privy to we might have made some different different decisions if we knew some of

the evil [ __ ] that all these [ __ ] labels and corporations we're doing so like I come in I commend Saint I commend

all of the newer acts for taking all of this via information that's at their

hands today and making wiser decisions than some of their some of their predecessors did people are much more

independently I'll hit the round of applause for saying on that one saying

thanks for coming through man thank you thank you this is fine this is my ignorant I like this probably one of our

our least ignorant episode I'm into what

my Jam's saying I'll tell you if you ain't got something like this on the next project on you're buying this [ __ ] man I play something master but Saints

got a little baby on this year who had a little baby amazing cuz no one made that

joke [ __ ] it say thank you for coming good luck good luck on everything that you have coming

I want to ask you for your number without it being weird oh you got it I'm a man it's not like I ask more for it

hey it's always weird when I like to meet a guy you like a little bit nobody make

this oil yeah I want to take you sometime oh wait no I ain't bid you [ __ ] to do

oh thank you [ __ ] for listening to us keep us in your prayers lord knows we need to be there until Saturday I bid

you [ __ ] to do everybody have an amazing week except for Jesse small let's up balls make a piece he might

actually do it out don't know you don't suck you don't get the stuff balls this

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