Double Or Nothing

verified losses edgemon it's been it's

been a lot of like real poppy hits that

the world knows past few weeks it's cool

though about to be on vacation

understand what did Rory say I was

unable to hear you feel like verified

may have lost his edge that's all how

how so are you playing the obvious now

224 records like mmm

no risks I don't see no character on the

chord right now ah no character you take

a risk show me who you are things you

say shocked me and then this is one of

those times I don't know if you're just

hitting them with compelling content or

you mean it now so what I'm gonna say is

over the weekend I was in my Eric Benet

playlist bag okay unbeknownst to a lot

of people out there Eric Benet has like

a set Eric Benet might be like R&B Bleek

oh I see what you're saying how long how

long was the set my Eric Benet set yeah

I let it it was about touch what about a

nice 25-minute set I left I left

feminine femininity rock and that's a

six seven minute record all right so

that's half yourself oh don't make me

pull up Eric beneath it no no see and

that's my point about his he just said

my court has no character but I don't

think the [ __ ] is aged know about the

Eric Benet bag you write starrwood Eric

Benet we know we know the hits know I

was talking more about that motto Jordan

that was my second joint for the

youngsters back on the foot back on the

dance don't go to the bar

I don't think Georgie Porgie was in it

no popular I'm about a hit hit within

the genre maybe no it's almost 15 I'm

still planning no why no no why it

wasn't a hit mall if I hearken back to

that time and old people out there

correct me if I'm wrong because I'm not

googling this is from my brain they put

that record out and MC Lyte put her

record out at the same time and her

record took off Georgie Porgie and she

likes Ricky came out way before this

record this record came out and nineties

something and a tonight was fine no no

no no no no Georgie Porgie not not

Georgie Porgie over this house Georgie

Porgie came out way before her days

don't you boys find out when MC lights

Georgie Porgie came out please save on

is so confused on the names

I'm sorry MC who and what and this is

this is horrible see this is what Rory

says about my tunes why don't I have

Georgie in here I blame ice though

because I'm sure you have every Max B

record that ever came out on their wall

talk real quickly this is a travesty

that you Joe by like Joe Budden MC Lyte

was 91

Georgie Porgie eight years for that oh

that's way before that opposition to

that on a Walkman okay so now take it

back I'm wrong but I don't think that

was hit okay

this was a hit I think every news was

there - oh damn George delightful we're

all dying to make everybody die in the

stories back that was hip hop let's go

to the end and see what happened to

George we should definitely make a list

which one no you do where all the

records of people dying in our me hip

hop records oh wait light told us how

you died oh [ __ ] oh man

oh yeah hold on Blanche

empathy light George don't only love is

blind star to smoke and he paid no

attention we showed these was [ __ ] up

this why you couldn't make a happy saw a

happy story

the B was happy to beat was very good uh

anyway shouted Eric Benet four [ __ ]

chicks on Holi wish she could walk that

one back why so he would know I don't

know well how is she good and Eric is

not telling saw Han Jahn week three what

do I MC Lyte or someone else know Halle

Berry okay both Halle Berry doing John

we three mmm do you smoking [ __ ] with

tweet rot while to a German Shepherd

all right listen welcome to the Joe

Budden podcast episode 255 if I'm not

mistaken I'm your humble gracious and

grateful host Joe button here with a few

of my nearest and dearest friends Maul

is here parks is here hold up and get

this out of here get back to my normal

screen parks is here Rory is here

Ericsson is here save on is here let me

get these drops out of the way

uninterrupted hold on I don't even take

my stand out to say some silent some

parks I've here it comes it comes fart

I've you ready

all right so 255 of the Joe button

podcasts here with a few good guys has

everybody feelin man what's going on

talk to me talk to me talk to me good no

no no give me more than that give me

more than it's good it's been five years

of it's good the weather's turning well

I tried to be amazing one podcast then

y'all killed me for 30 minutes so now I

just come here and be good what I said I

was like wonderful what episode was

doing great via don't be and then for

the next 15 minutes it was just killing

me for being wonderful yeah so I just

come in here now be like you know not

everything's it's cool it could be

better but it could be worse how are you

doing Joe I'm great I've spent my

weekend trying to figure out what you

are spending your money on me that's why

what does that mean parks is bar why

because I do the accounting right wait a

minute parks has done this for x we know

I know new Levi's no new Apple watch no

new studio equipment no new girl all

right

that has to stop all right yeah that's

his to stop I'm sorry about that uh yeah

yeah so that's what I couldn't figure it

out I couldn't figure it out a bottle

awesome I love it

I lost my mental game that I play with

myself I looked in a new apartment oh

yes finally I'm getting info no Rory on

in house no but it did have a very nice

terrorist and I think I was no no I know

what that chorus is always a seller

cause it was like a beast that the

terrace is like the size of the

apartment in the apartment is pretty

good-sized two-bedroom humble humble one

that's a humble brag well no I just I

have a building and a crane in front of

me now so I'm just trying to find

anything yeah just wait is it is it

available no one's in the apartment I

mean find anything is the rather big

crib with the rather big Terrace no no

no that's find anything nowadays hey I'm

dying to get out of here I have some

friends that was dying to get out of

their places it was it didn't go like

this with the terrorists

we're saying Jay had the transition to

get out if you know the places I've

lived in my life I'd like to hear about

my guys doing good like a boss force in

LA this week slow down slow down slow

down in the rough don't interrupt me

Moll I'm just a little don't but don't

it no no I'm gonna say what you gonna do

[ __ ] that's what I'm here to do listen

I want to dedicate this podcast to all

of the listeners out there right

especially the older ones I was very

shocked to see a lot of you while we

were on tour when I say older I mean 50

and up there was quite a few of y'all

out there and boy do I respect your eyes

boy do I respect you guys his eyes what

you've seen your ears what you have

heard

I think that's lost amongst young people

to date it I'm gonna [ __ ] about older

people I want to thank you guys

with that said now come all what do you

feel the whole be mom mom all gave me a

call over the weekend man so you know

what enough is enough man

okay you sent him you had enough he said

I think I'm gonna go ahead and do it I

said mom what you about to do something

go ahead and drop their membership in a

Dumbo house man get it over i'ma go

ahead and get it out the way didn't

sound like he was even sweating the

price of it yo man this time man I'm

tired of going to nail my house you used

to do I need to just go when I feel I

left at home he's no he'll just where we

had the thing but who looks at the price

tags with a great Nicki Minaj would say

no Rory wasn't more beef with the bar

just cuz more but nevermind

forget it one more the bar me and more I

know Donna moss up you gonna get it on

them I won't do nothing else I mean I

just know I go to that's nice

you know me chill good vibe no annoying

ocean some peace of mind here's me peace

of mind when I go out that's all

that's there I'm saying just peace of

mind yeah house in Queens cuz I want to

go out but it's like when I do go out to

surf spot it's like the first night was

a what the [ __ ] am i doing it

you never said that when I went you

don't get me since Orillia up and down

no I find everything but PC suing that

up and down up and down

yeah what the one okay up and down y'all

love being up and down all of you be

with me get up and say I can't do that

yeah no no more so yeah I'm trying to

get us into Dumbo house man let me know

I'm paying to the proverbial US or the

literal us no the literal crazy right

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all right good good we're all feeling

good we're all feeling great this is our

last pot this is our last podcast before

vacation oh let me get that applause on

them so what that means for the slower

people what's today look I'm slow now

but see what happened to us about is

Wednesday the time you got to be what

you want to receive see look how fast

gotta teach you something then our

Saturday we're not here don't look for

it tell me your children because of this

podcast you haven't been tending to them

in the last five years so Dee the mantle

is that you might have missed in the

past so yeah we will not be and we will

not be here on Wednesday we will be back

the following whatever date that is I'm

too lazy to even check the dates when

you think that's the 21st yeah yeah 22nd

22nd we will be back oh that is a fan

give it some nice little trip that is a

nice little break that's nice and I like

to come in you you guys I want I wanna I

want to start this podcast 14 minutes

then just by thanking god I don't think

we've I don't think we've ever taken a

break there's been podcast if maybe I've

missed them all is missed or Rory is

missed but I don't think there's ever

just been a stoppage of work I'll take

it a step further and say for me to have

a stoppage of all the works oh I'm so

grateful I'm so grateful god is good god

is good I want to take a second

yeah brakes are healthy computer chance

you miss this a little bit and get and

get some rest

put the phone down for a little bit

distant Sun disconnect do a lot I've

been leaving the phone at home it's nice

[ __ ] the me this night me start the

Apple watch so yeah don't don't

it's like smoking outside in the winter

you smoking but it's different all the

poles that you get in the summertime so

it's a little different

ah then I forgot what I was saying just

that fat our trip oh yeah disconnect

disconnect disconnect we were talking on

the tour I'm scared of what a

well-rested podcast will do cuz we've

been tired as [ __ ] for the past three

months

yeah wait till we get some rest I'd say

that dude but I think we've been smoking

somebody's Bob single joke no I do

rather good with no rest

I'm just saying back it back in a groove

I Aryan back back in a rhythm it feels

like yeah they calling me weird and [ __ ]

but whatever that's true that's true

well how are you how are you spending

your time off oh who will use my whining

over [ __ ] just wake up and get busy

just going to LA to just chill no you

squat in the canyon work yeah I'm

chilling are you going to LA all right

yeah I'm gonna go to LA for a few days

um yeah man just chill out

I wasn't across the UH the Atlantic but

I was like now go somewhere that I've

never been taking random trip across the

Atlantic you never the year not been to

your cousin somewhere else okay I have

no idea where anything is geographically

so the Atlantic's between us in Europe

and Africa I'm just gonna just letting

you know you can judge me if you like

I'm wanting to start somewhere you going

to the north of that and the right to

euros DRM I told you that was the last a

little bad [ __ ]

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take me back you pulled up the picture

no [ __ ] is a plant but the funny

suit is I didn't really have nowhere to

go we was going to dr and everyone out

there will be happy to know the dr trip

is canceled I heard your careers I heard

the universe we're not gonna do your but

I plant the trip so I could so I could

be sad in peace okay honestly if you

really want me to get into this okay

please and nobody asked me to get into

this but that was like a month ago so

now it's time for the trip and all right

I'm sorry a little bit but I don't need

that like we can really record going now

we got a groove but yeah I'm gonna Miami

not a bad place what do you want me to

do more nothing that I love my I got it

I gotta go I got it's not a bad trip yes

once you figure out that there's other

things in Miami besides South Beach and

like Collins in Washington mmm Miami's a

dope city yeah absolutely yeah there's

good [ __ ] to do once you get away even

if you do South Beach okay man if it's

if it's there for just fun do not give

me give Joe a room that he really really

likes anywhere and watch and watch this

yeah I just need water line in Miami I

will be in the living room don't you

want to kick your legs over your head on

this a block what I'm saying is I'm

gonna be in the living room mm-hmm okay

and don't let me sneak a Apple TV with

me because I recently just started this

Handmaid's Tale show I've heard it's

good none of it none of y'all here watch

that show right I just started watching

it in the middle of whatever season is

going on now because Sam well ok I'm not

starting this way because we have to get

into Khalid and this is a music

Cass but let me just tell y'all this

show and I've only seen two episode

seems like one of them like lights been

telling as such it has yeah and it has

been there's a cult already existing I

am late to the party people have

preached this show preached it to

priests about this show to me for years

the interrelationship your girls are

saying in a certain [ __ ] so you know

once that's that I put it on it's one of

those is that Amazon or Hulu okay yeah

they are I'm intrigued it's one of the

ways through it that should happen in it

it's one of those that should have a

cult it's like who's like when you first

saw a breaking this animals like oh yeah

like I understand like they'd a buggin

they buggin yeah yet like it's about to

happen in real life and that's what's

scary that's the scary part about nobody

shows honestly like and that should have

been on the docket yeah like the shows

are imitating what's happening or what

will be happening or what's what we're

on the brink of happening and I think

about that [ __ ] a lot like I was

thinking about that watching that

Chernobyl [ __ ] even though that did

happen in real life it's like then I

think if I happen again Simpson told us

everything that would happen that's true

that's true

t go back and look at everything they

tried to warn us in the Simpsons but I'm

just saying do you realize that

evolution is happening right before our

eyes we take it for granted because we

see it every day so it there there are

subtle changes to us but they're not

subtle changes in the grand scheme of

things right it's like if we go to mall

like [ __ ] if we go because I don't want

to be not getting sad on vacation time

but if you just look at where you were

born I was born in Spanish Harlem

project's 1809 if you even look at

pictures from back there is just fuzzy

and cloudy the stores the people and the

style do everything what they was

infusing them together like if you just

start from there and then get to

whatever you think is happening today

even if you're a conspiracy theorist

evolutions everyday man what man it's

just different now because evolution is

not us per se its technology hmm so wow

you're talking about in 1980-81 whenever

he was born it was still evolution

amongst people and the culture and how

things were moving now it's just one big

bulb of technology and that's what's

having elevation it's not really us per

se or its how we react to technology

it's not really within us anymore

I've been on and this will seem like a

sidebar but it's not let's just get all

the [ __ ] that can sound sad out the way

for reasons that we want that I won't

explain I've been delving into autism

okay and in delving in you call around

to a whole bunch of places right you

would any of you gentlemen like to guess

how long the waiting list is at damn

near every autism center in New York and

New Jersey I'm pretty sure us a few

years makes you think about that vaccine

report a little differently mm-hmm it's

all I'm saying yeah somebody talk I'll

find outstanding and then we'll have a

great park oh no I don't want to get off

we jumped real quick save on also has a

vacation I just want to note that matter

of fact we trying to focus on what Molly

is also going to South Beach wait so I

wasn't doing that his age

we're going to [ __ ] South Beach

closed - do I get it and got a shot and

got a shirt on it so you wasn't outside

by the way which none of us have that

[ __ ] looking at the deeper psychology -

we're on vacation how will he be

identified and related

relatedly attached to the podcast

without a wreckin recognizable podcast

face being next to him why don't you go

get a one-on-one shirt with a popular

free

it wasn't outside I see that it's gonna

say he wasn't in South Beach and now

that I think about it

we was in Miami and we're all getting

the van to go back to the hotel like a

family say why I said nah I'm good I'll

walk and we were about five to six

months away from the venue yeah and then

we saw three bodies of water as well on

the way well we saw him walk and

actually save on not alone save on I too

will be out there so don't fret yeah

don't don't call me no need to fret yeah

I won't be far the do cam is still still

in the building

the do cam at Wet Willie's look he is

the plan yeah exactly yeah yeah you know

what enough might check once you want to

yo yeah relax my have to [ __ ] it and

[ __ ] a nice little 16 up chefs I'm up on

breaks millet chef in the 1600 on a

vacation yeah

you'll save up grab me a beer my man

yeah we'll make you work today don't

worry we got outstanding going with my

numbers in the a a bond why are you in

the kitchen make us a sandwich make me a

bird you Pina Colada we're going on

numbers in there we're going on vacation

homeboy think about the work your ass

today

Hey

you have been looking sweeter lately all

right now you'll save on don't buy no

more water bottles with the nipples on

them those are weird I also don't like

the nipple bottle alright where where

were we

or where are we now we're not getting to

wherever we were we were in Miami yes

we're now sorry

yeah well I'm done giving up on it's me

which all the millions of people who

people have a good okay Rosie volatile

all right we're we're we're we're we're

would you gentlemen uh where'd you guys

like to begin slow news week it was

khalid seemed to take up most of my time

line in the past few days yeah khalid

will be suing billboard allegedly for

not counting his bundle packages which

was over a hundred thousand which would

in turn put him over tyler for the

number one album from two weeks ago and

we've moved on to other number one

albums at this point because he bundled

with a pyramid scheme energy drink

apparently okay get some bundles off man

hey you know in this life you got to do

what you got to do sometimes that's true

I mean if he felt like he was cheated

fam come on come on come on what

princeton bundles 1d bundles man we seem

we've seen is the nude this didn't know

every we're men

I'm just trying I thought we would have

like more of a friendly podcast very

friendly yeah but y'all gone coming in

and defend this honestly I'm not done Oh

terrify your point he's not the person

to do it I think that sounds like a

defense describes when you say I'm not

the first person to do it just say that

he's not

isn't like shocking we got that give me

give me something else we know he's not

the first to do it he felt like he was

robbed and he wanted to take protest

against a billboard in Figure one tell

me how y'all feel about it come on it's

not weird if artists are doing it but

most people are bundling like buy two

tickets at a concert get that album for

free or something like that this is an

energy pyramid schemes I found a

loophole no doubt you found when you put

all those songs he found the oldest

treatment that's different

to me to me to me it's artists fighting

against the diss system that's in play

like okay y'all want to do the streaming

[ __ ] y'all want to decide I'm gonna

start counting sales all right we gonna

find a new weight and start adding more

sales is that fighting against or

playing ball I don't know that can ball

compassion fight night I don't

depending on how you playing if you

wouldn't so arena but that's not

anything about Khalid specifically now

so you tell me in your opinion how he's

doing it is that if you think that's

fighting against it or more more playing

ball probably 50/50 because he's in and

he this is in he's in a new digital era

and this is how people consume music so

he's now found away drinks however it

may however may count as a stream of

sell whatever yeah he's just fine in

different ways I can never be mad at the

artist for trying to get ahead of what

the system isn't that doesn't play sir I

can't get mad at it sir now do I think

that it was necessary that he went on

this rant and [ __ ] on Tyler no I

don't think that was necessary because

he could not said any of that and still

be like well listen I played a different

way they didn't count it I we're gonna

come back to the drum well give him some

notes next time he could have did it

like that but he wanted to make a fuss

like not [ __ ] that because yeah I had

this new streaming system in play all

right so this is how we gonna do it now

we're going to we're gonna trick the

system a little bit we're gonna find a

loophole to me so today's is showing

your hand too much because we all know

even before streaming labels were buying

hundreds of thousands of physical copies

of albums in movies they have been

buying movie tickets non-stop and like

this obviously isn't new but now you're

just showing your hand like kind of the

park's point you're showing this whole

[ __ ] with an energy drink mm-hmm like

just take this on the chin number two is

fine your first album sales were fine I

agree last week we loved your positivity

you're just looking a little nuts now

and then adding insult to injury by

showing us your the trick to how you

were gonna do that and it wasn't even

the traditional [ __ ] like people love

your merch or people love your shows did

anything come up this week that he

couldn't get number one this week cuz

that's another question like I dunno I

think Billy somebody like number one

overall why not push to get number one

in the second week was that important to

have number one on your first night

alright y'all at y'all are pissing me

off with this nonsense did Charlotte's

viewing me because y'all are smarter

than what y'all is saying he found he

know we know that but we know we sound

silly that's what he did but let me let

me talk that's all okay I agree with you

but we're better than that

so if the four of us are talking in yeah

there's nothing wrong with number two

but that's not what we're here to talk

about there's a reason why something is

wrong with number two there's a reason

why this keeps coming up there's

something in contracts there's some bump

there's some something somewhere that a

lot kicks in is number one so so I want

to stop y'all when y'all say that we

think it's okay to be number one

yeah number two I mean I know but you

are correct number two we think then

don't

let's not justify what someone else

should feel that way he got some [ __ ]

going on with number one that's

unbeknownst to us oh can we agree that

can we agree to it very possible

somewhere in his contract next thing I'm

going to say is not an opinion of mine

but we here to acknowledge the broader

the broader scope and there are some

people out there that are of the belief

that Khaled himself is a [ __ ]

caricature oh yeah there are some people

out there that belief Cal it ain't even

making [ __ ] albums

you're just making playlist and tricking

the system by calling it something else

call it a [ __ ] playlist

there's some people that believe that

yeah i i'm not i'm not there even though

I think I think that Khalid has paid his

dues I think that a Catlett has a talent

I think the curating and putting a

record together his town I don't agree

that but to people that believe we

murdered sure we murdered it is all I'm

saying

yeah and I'm not and I'm not mad at the

attempt so let's not talk about the

attempt we know what he tried to do hmm

we support that mmm-hmm I met it a man

at the attempt because two parks his

point everybody that has done this has

done it smooth okay when holes did it

with Kingdom Come or whatever that was

Budweiser Samsung whatever the [ __ ] he

did boy it was smooth Budweiser would

say there was something else yeah but

was something in I'm not back checking

so please don't kill if this is all off

the dome freestyle off the top but you

remember [ __ ] boy boy it was smooth

right I think Prince started it I'm of

the belief that every single time that

one of these [ __ ] do this or one of

these labels do this print should be

getting paid I think every single time

y'all do a bug will pay a bundle package

money to should be paid to Prince's

estate that's my opinion

well actually something's not to cut you

off Joe didn't you wasn't you to like

the first one the first to do that to

that when you got the iPhone yeah you

two made us listen to that you got your

phone it was blank exciting that count

as a sale I'm sure maybe yeah

I don't see what that's crazy okay I

mean so the industry the same thing they

do with weed and everything else you

know they stop some [ __ ] and then they

allowed some [ __ ] but they allowed it

with rules that energy drink [ __ ] that

Khaled did billboard is right that's

against the rules

yeah billboard is correct in the rules

that we have governed right no it has to

be a music related

whatever the wording said and to make to

add insult to injury they highlighted

the energy drink place doing promos you

definitely

do that that's against the whole purpose

of a bundle yeah just giving it up yes

energy drink can't say hey buy ten

energy drinks so we can give you X

amount of called-- [ __ ] so he could be

number one

no versus Tyler who is putting his album

name on buttons and posters and stickers

that's only been I think the bulk of his

bundle from what I read at least was

concert tickets you bought two concert

tickets you get the album the print yeah

which is great yeah but it was also

merged to time travel from radish yeah

and Travis did that too yeah with the

last thing that was the Niki where's

Travis or dealing but and but this beef

is the evolution of that beef because

Niki was mad that his bundles counted

and hers didn't know right I don't think

so I don't think that's or yet yes get

her bundle [ __ ] off I don't remember and

I'm not going back to fat check but this

one calendars man cuz he know the game

right

Canada's man cuz I know the game I'm

damn near and exact myself I figured it

out I came to epic we had a [ __ ]

plant and outside an epic again won't

you say why [ __ ] mad at number two

you're talking about people that have

business ventures in X amount of places

right mmm-hmm the only time they're

expected to perform is now Calot doing

the four have a blast Cal it be in the

face of weight watchers have a blast

it's my brand mmm the music has to carry

some of the stuff I'm certain he to me

I'm certain whenever you close that

energy drink [ __ ] and I'm not certain

because I haven't spoken anybody I don't

know nobody don't get me in trouble but

when he closed that energy drink [ __ ]

the album was in that conversation

that's what I'm saying I'm sure

absolutely

so when you're Alma now comes number two

it's not just the label looking at you

mmm-hmm it's whoever the [ __ ] it was

invested in you being number one so I

could see a million reasons for him to

get mad how he handled getting mad

against somebody that the public loves

see Callie can't be that out of touch

yes you've made your living being in

touch as a DJ

as a [ __ ] as a [ __ ] curator as a

promoter whatever the [ __ ] Khalid has

been he's been too much [ __ ] you know as

the ANR is an exact you've always been

in touch now it just seems really out of

touch and Tyler has handed this [ __ ]

like a consummate professional yeah

agree which is why it looks away yeah so

no more nobody's man and him for trying

to trick the system but we'd be fools to

sit here and say that it don't look away

yeah I think we've said that since last

podcast too but even I'd have to see

what the verbage is with that cuz I

would have a quiet beef it wouldn't be a

public one I would have a quiet beef

that just because I found a way kind of

Tomales point just because I found a way

to maybe trick the system and you didn't

put it in the fine print that I can't do

beverages and I can only do merch that

may or may not have anything to do with

my album yeah I feel a [ __ ] way yeah

so change the rule after I'm done don't

discount it because now you realize like

oh wait now we can't do that I would

feel the way to and that at the end of

the day the bottom line is if you have

great music and a great project that's

always gonna stand above everything else

in that see that Danny my bottom line my

bomb line is while all you need to stop

pretending to sell music if you don't

sell music know your major selling if

you don't make no use no board to some

degree now is just selling perception of

course there is actual liquid sales on

that and the cream does rise to an

extent but you're selling perception

from that degree especially with

streaming cuz it's not something we can

touch I use to be able to touch an album

right I knew what that was even if the

label was buying them back [ __ ] that

it's still something I could touch its

you're selling perception that's all

you're selling when you look at Spotify

and it says 6 billion trillion [ __ ]

streams that's a perception comeback

you're only selling a perception cuz cuz

even if it is - we're streaming is where

it's [ __ ] you have to listen a

thousand times for one out of the cow

that's why Spotify puts those numbers

there it's like holy [ __ ] this was

streamed two trillion times I gotta

listen to this it's just a perception

that's always billboard is a perception

at this point to me let's take a Khalid

sidebar really quickly because while I

was home figuring out what

Parkes is spending his money on now that

I've gone to Atlanta and had a little

little sit-down with Russ I see how you

and how he is making 30 million dollars

a year I had to go try to figure it out

hmm good friend good for him I asked

we need reparations we need reparation

so it wasn't a good convo with Russ it

was a great calm over us but but listen

I only I bring it only it's only

relevant to the Calot talk to me because

there are so many people with successful

blueprints Howie

I'll be here right now yeah I thought

how is he making thank you thank you

Russ has that cold [ __ ] - that's it I

said that and you're like whatever I

have never heard anybody playing a Russ

record I've known and heard a

restoration plan I don't know anybody

that's working out his records I've

never seen a Instagram chick post a

video when his records playing in the

boys back which makes which which should

make somebody say how is he doing that

and I just asked how Kyle and yeah no

way - his degree less your style there's

an example and no way to his degree

cause Tyler's whole circle is way more

than just music and I think Russ is to

some degree I think he's on that many

odd future [ __ ] just not with a whole

clique like he has that [ __ ] words like

wait why is this festival sold-out and

everyone knows every word I've never

heard this song in my life he's one of

those artists and oh it's oh let's look

at it this way this year Russ will

probably do 59 dates a 59 city tour and

let's call it 10,000 cap I'm sure those

tickets a you know more

[Laughter]

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now I've expressed to y'all I was real

bad at geography but my math is kind of

okay so just that fast that's probably

half yeah we gotta hit the road more

that's the bottom line I don't even know

nobody's ever been to Russia like where

the [ __ ] is this money coming from that

I don't know nobody is much bigger than

your black know people all over the

[ __ ] country some degree you're still

kind of in that same bubble no matter

where you at when you deal with the same

type people in the music business and I

have never heard any one of them say to

argue I think that it's not easy but let

me tell you about ol Joe with John

Meneely told me gentlemen they only said

if you really want to know who's getting

money in this business all you got to do

is look at the torrent and look at the

room yeah so look like I told y'all I

had that talk with Vince when he told me

what he makes

perfectible and I threw up in my mouth

no I didn't I just kept throwing up a

mother I don't know if it was like 2011

or something when they put out the

Forbes [ __ ] with rappers and you

remember the year

god bless the dead Mac Miller pass Rick

Ross and everyone lost their [ __ ]

minds and were like how the [ __ ] did Mac

Miller its past and that was the high

Rick Ross right Rick Ross on the Forbes

list like if you saw Mac it looked like

his name did not belong in the people he

was surrounded by on that list yeah it's

similar to that see dust and Mac hits

the [ __ ] Road but that's that's

something that I was I think I was

having a conversation with Joe Simon Joe

was like how do you know that very hot

and I told him I was like because you

know these streaming platforms they

don't have to give us the real numbers

but when we start hitting the road and

you show me 2,500 people lined up to

come see us that's all I need to see you

can't hide that you know I'm sad so you

can't fake it you can't and that's the

same thing Russ said you get this

again with the streamers [ __ ] but when

we hit the road and we walk out on that

stage in Atlanta and that stage started

shaking

yeah you can't fake that like I know

that's how I know like when I told y'all

I'm walking to Harlem and older women

are recognizing me

that's not a rigid dick yell if it

wasn't I was bored over the week out

about to send my [ __ ] in yo this is

Tammy Nica it's just great that you

that's what you think about over the

week you know but my very next note with

I would be the [ __ ] to still give it

would end up being a bad review somehow

I try the body is like when I gave the

cops Michael poore name he had [ __ ] I

told you me and [ __ ] me and Rory was

just having a conversation I'm in the

backyard trying to get creative while

trying to get created with some shine

like yeah man let's build a stage right

here man for the pool party cause he

qicang lights I think we end tonight

with a little performance spotted by her

your own hey I understand oh I'm not

following any of you on Instagram I get

it now but more why you're doing it was

like Bow Wow her doing it now no none of

us know where that's a nut yes enough

but you know what she deserves I will

pay it like if I got a raise

Oh keep reading about buddy partner way

to wake everyone how you play with job

yes [ __ ] it Barack yeah they could hide

the streaming numbers they can hide that

we keep it in stadiums in a bid oh I

can't that is pretty fun right no we

don't pull up on the rock like he don't

know is he know now if you know go Wayne

and don't know what I mean yeah so weird

comparison yeah I know but and as much

as I love us I don't know if just

knowing Lil Wayne automatically means

you know the Joe Budden podcast now

right a little way in a park at come

with you I'm wish you that's all wish

you know Yili Wayne had wings on

everything

none of us have done a feature though

okay we got a couple podcast yeah we all

look features actually it's been a while

I'm holding out hold on man I think

[ __ ] forgot more Obama's straight to

Barack Michelle so they move it on the

block we blasting this out I think they

might have forgotten yeah man no noise

ordinance I know is your daughter's

birthday recently MIT Barack can only

have one Rory in law this is my [ __ ] in

high school

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this the energy I need before vacation

yo you hit work right now

don't wile out don't while out you got

to go back you're trying to make me sad

on the aggressive record give me back

her hand didn't uh didn't you have that

beat

yeah I did I wasn't doing that to it

look I'm a dumbass me trying to be deep

with a story not doing no wonder [ __ ]

steal you've never sold it to me just

because this guy over here that's pretty

popular at the moment Wayne and Wayne

man alright what were we talking about

anything important

Oh what her gets paid for first of all

there's you and Russ oh I'm telling

y'all now stop it right now stop it

right now and I'm now y'all know I'm not

festival papi that fest well y'all know

I'm not festival papi facts and this is

not an ad I am flying to Concord

California whenever that lights out

festival is wherever that is

I have no idea where Concord California

is neither but I will be this to her

festival I'm good that is that is the

her festival it seems like I picked that

festival sounds like one country that's

all I thought about the essence [ __ ]

last year her Jenaya a co Daniel Caesar

lucky day

smelly Danny lay everything summer

Walker Kiana Leyte

who else is there I don't know the

hotel's missus no oh my god I love tone

skin tone stiff is rocking that's my guy

oh yeah or he's on there oh yeah I gotta

go talking about leaders already to do

the weed is that September 6 14 14

September 14

what day is that the Golden Gate Bridge

I don't give a I don't give a [ __ ] where

I am going I'm going

you sure there's a what is that

greatness September 14 was that oh yeah

oh I'll be there Friday yeah in line all

right I will be diverted I'm not him

Concorde looks like Hey

I was correct yes and that looks

beautiful isn't abate yeah it's in the

bay and the bay is great I loved it I

always take a nice little weird hello

I'm out beautiful

I didn't hear me the wheels rolled no

okay I'm near man I'm near uh I don't

know who we should talk to but her good

luck she won't talk to nobody

hey when I saw her at the Drake concert

on the riser in pitch black with her

shades still on

I knew she and spoke to anybody in at

least four years instead of words one

person why would she when you're her I

agree many immortals yeah mere mortal

yeah I think I would have some nerve to

go over there and say hello

come on now at all I can't talk to her

I'm gonna yeah I'm going to that I'm

going to that y'all say y'all going yeah

yeah I go trip I going road trip drive

over there

a lot of I think I might [ __ ] with this

[ __ ] uh on our vacation

in Long Beach again this isn't an ad

this is just a great lineup it's called

smoking grooves uh sure Erykah Badu

Daniel Caesar common t-pain summer

Walker the dream village I love to death

Oh what mixie boys gonna be in LA all

week like how y'all move how we move

like that oh my god that's a D now look

look okay if it wasn't my am you look

like I'm near see inaudible are you

Shady

no that's just rollin loud out there you

know I'm not so

rollin rollin rollin rollin allowed

we're coming to New York like we asked

for that you know yeah I'm not going out

we should protest and no beef because I

think it's needed

don't worry about it but rains not for

me you take the NYPD's the lenient one

um next for rollin Chris Brown announced

his tour him Tory Lanez

ty dolla sign Joyner Lucas and someone

else I don't have it cuz I'm off the

dome right yes

Tory Joyner and was Joyner

he's no no we said time there's one more

person Oh either way that's a great I

like I'm on a true story and Ty is

probably worth the ticket that's Beth

that yeah yeah and I get why ties doing

that and just in a selfish way I would

love like a solo or tai be the headliner

of like a terminal five type tour mm-hmm

like not intimate to the degree not but

you still put in three thousand people

in like a Hammerstein Ballroom mmm

- maybe five thousand I would like time

with a couple other acts and him be the

headliner yeah cuz I makes good

he hasn't music that you could hear

intimately rather than in an arena with

a bunch of Chris Brown fans mm-hmm yeah

but I think that's what yellow breezy

yellow yellow BZ I'm sorry um I don't

know a lot of people I saw a lot of

people excited about him so no no that's

that's gonna be awesome what a great

time for what a great time for shows and

and festivals again I'm not really into

all that but I don't know how you can

turn down some of those yeah listen man

I already got three new marketing ideas

right next to her I'm he's known for

some [ __ ] we gonna be on the road and

I'll be honest with you like with some

of these artists like lucky day

performed at our [ __ ] so we've seen him

her we've seen her like we've seen a few

of them some of these artists today I

love that it's going back to some of

them actually really given a lot of

folks about their stage performance

absolutely like there's like artistry

seemingly back oh yeah because

everything is visual now like how's you

gonna stand out above the people are

just staying over tracks yeah let me let

me know you know they don't go they

don't get enough product that goes

unsaid a lot shout out to all of the

artists out there

that are probably dumping half of the

[ __ ] finances back into the show back

in the production back into the band

back into just you just paying it

forward just paying it back investing in

yourself invest in your craft and

getting it back on the road on the

backend man could y'all are doing that

and it's it's wonderful man [ __ ] that's

what I'm not don't mean don't think

that's we cut me off and I was trying to

don't copy all forget that I was

actually talking me

oh so you let him do break went through

that on a scorpion so I think he started

a few weeks late because production-wise

he didn't have everything he wanted that

bragini it yeah I think he lost a couple

million hours doing that well yeah it

didn't matter

remember the easy tour or use this tour

rather that one with the big-ass pyramid

that was one of the best shows I've ever

been to

he had to do like another year of

touring just to try to make up all the

money he lost on that [ __ ] he lost so

much money on that tour but it was one

of the better shows I've ever been to in

my life

genres aside it's a great problem has

yeah speaking of Drake he was coming out

the tunnel Ella had to game the other

night bumped into Taylor just throwing

out there yeah anything

Bleacher Report was in the building and

new content coming soon new content

coming so you're just gonna create job

at that that part that part is true

parks um so to wrap up this bundles

conversation where do y'all y'all all

for it y'all all for the loophole and

the system creators got to create fight

the power that be I'm open to artists

get money whether it counts them is the

Billboard [ __ ] I don't really we all are

but we always we always we always say

take there sometimes playful as you

always say awesome creators got to

create and I think that this is just a

way that artists are creating you know

to survive a system that's now putting

the play they got to find ways to

maneuver around it but I still think

it's a classism is what it is well know

that comes down to perception - because

billboards not putting I guess maybe you

have another one album or people may

check it out because they see us number

one but that bundle package just you're

not getting more money from the music

streams to make you number one of course

you get money the merch but you could

have sold that already your ticket sales

is well I have never looked at billboard

look at the number one movie record or

need album in waiting both the number

one record out I kind of wish they would

just do away with it cuz I don't think

it affects the money at all it doesn't

affect I just I don't know what the

money but it doesn't affect whether or

not someone like me goes and listens to

the music that's just me personally I

can't lie sometimes I'll fall into uh

what is the hype and I'll listen to

something I'm God looking at Billboard

uh maybe just seeing people talk about

the boy I bought the fun album after

they had won all those Awards I was

gonna that was a great album that would

they got that right yeah yeah I was

young Arcade Fire was also it's a huge

record that was a Grammy thing but yeah

but their album was great yeah it wasn't

more so you found it because of that

huge record right and that's what I was

the same music will always treat all of

them but that's where my beef is in what

you're saying and that old adage is

supposed to be right good music Trump's

all it's like the ball don't lie um and

maybe this is me being jaded so let me

acknowledge that before everyone calls

me jaded but I mean I'm jaded from my

experience in the music business

it's classism to me I would agree with

you of the same opportunities were

afforded to everyone if everyone were

able to utilize the same tricks of the

trade and we could see who just fared

better than awesome but Khalid is in bed

with epic hmm so I don't really feel

like that's what's happening he's

afforded certain luxuries Freddie Gibbs

can't go to some energy drink company

for his manly project and say yo hundred

thousand he's sneaking in like he can't

I would love to see what we happen to be

good right so even that fun album I was

just talking about buying huh they

bodied the awards and I'm sitting here

saying the awards got it right

there's plenty Albans that just aren't

afforded that opportunity you could

submit all day you could submit submit

submit to you blue in the [ __ ] face

my [ __ ] you will never see the light of

day of this ceremony right so I would

agree with you if the classicism

and music were taken away and until that

happens and that's and that's really

what and that's

really what a big part of this tough

dsps versus the labels is about the

labels have a strong control of things

especially if we can control the market

share and by that I mean control the

artists if I have a strong grip of what

Taylor Swift Drake and Ariana's doing

then I got y'all I got y'all it's like

that in the streaming because it's

readily available to all mmm

there is no it's not really classism

there until the labels interject and

start putting cardi B [ __ ] on podcast

[ __ ] and just spamming [ __ ] and the

farms that you don't I mean yeah I'm off

on a tangent maybe a lot of people have

no idea what I'm saying right now but

just glasses it to your car TV podcast

[ __ ] I'm still waiting for how they're

gonna switch that rule at some point

when podcasting gets to the mass

popularity that it can become like now

it's good it's not to what it implies I

know they know what time it is we're

we're in the now there now there are

just a plateau of ad revenue they

haven't figured it out so yeah you're

right not my point but I want to know

when they're gonna have that and it's

not happening on this podcast all you

people that think it does happen because

I have read that people do think this

that there will be a paola when you can

play a record on a podcast that gets 1

million hits a week and you have a 1

million streams now added to your [ __ ]

that should happen I don't know why

there's not happening

yeah it's essentially radio listen it

takes it takes these these dinosaurs

ages to update mm-hmm but I mean if

you're counting streams and the song is

played on something that streams

yeah then those streams should count

they only don't count because y'all

y'all have yet to have control over the

podcast ecosystem mm-hm the second that

you gain that control is the second that

you'll start counting [ __ ] you'll

probably even hang it over our heads hey

we'll count the [ __ ] if X Y Z hey I must

say suck my dick sorry it's our guy all

right well in this

so you're anti bundle yeah yeah I am I

think that there should be a different

system for it to just to just infuse it

into album sales is misleading confusing

and not really representative of what

you pay in fur make sure you're trying

to give you're telling me that whoever

sold X amount of albums which is already

confusing because how albums are

consumed nowadays is through stream and

through stream it's only worth 14

hundredths percent of whatever so stream

how you got to this number oh and the

song you put out last year if it did

this enough you could add it it'll count

to may be the total but not week one and

do that and now if you go into a deal

over here and they sell X amount of

concert tickets now your tickets I don't

want to have to pay it since I'm not

even going to your shows but now your

tickets are involved in that okay so now

and and y'all are doing all to hit a

buck fifty I want to put this in

perspective y'all are doing to hit a

buck thirty I don't know if y'all are

really crunching numbers that part I

don't you can't be you can't be you

cannot be well maybe you are there's

some information that I missing about

this number one album [ __ ] cuz I've

never been at something buddy that's why

the number one maybe more important

there I'll tell you because they're not

really moving a lot of physical number

one right so it's like they still want

that number one I had a number one out

yeah but no one still sees like

billboard playing a whole trick on us

and making themselves relevant with

these rules cuz obviously if you're

buying two concert tickets you probably

have the album you've probably been

counted as a buy or you actually bought

the album right you guys are just making

billboard matter the more you try to

manipulate them and be mad at them know

they're happy you're doing this [ __ ]

cuz it makes them relevant and it makes

Khalid get in a [ __ ] Maybach in the

back seat and say I don't give a [ __ ]

about that weird I music my [ __ ] number

one

all this [ __ ] like someone cared about

that do it didn't do it to Freddie Gibbs

you can do it to Freddie Gibbs because

Freddie Gibbs

would love to see his number go from

40,000 week one to 70

oh yeah of course boy that would be

amazing

yeah but all the [ __ ] is just it's like

we're fight we're fighting for billboard

and just making them more relevant in

the process when it doesn't particularly

matter to your point of we're doing all

this for a hundred thirty thousand

records that's not even really that many

records that they won't be some fight

billboard for what well meanwhile just

want to know for what you guys see that

Rolling Stone is doing a chart separate

they're doing their own chart that's

more based on internet streams and such

they're doing a rival chart to billboard

they now said a couple weeks of Rolling

Stone who would have [ __ ] you I want to

stop that stop it

someone answer me who the [ __ ] air

stones a pretty big editorial I know now

who the [ __ ] are they what is the

difference y'all come tell me what's

what Rolling Stone y'all tell the white

[ __ ] what's what my ears don't need to

hear you're not gonna come and be the

competitive [ __ ] against the [ __ ] that

we bidding oh we'll do it right no [ __ ]

you won't no Rolling Stone you know this

uses hip-hop conveniently when it works

for them hey we don't need a new wrong

[Laughter]

don't be wrong boy to fix it that's a

bar I like that we don't what we don't

need a new role we doing don't tell me

that bring the basement back mmm

yeah don't tell me about what Rolling

Stone is gonna do for the culture and

that's exactly what I said to Russ when

he started you know I'm a safe dad that

was a Reuben interview was a really good

interview it was really good has rust

matured since his last press run that he

did I don't know of rich [ __ ] mature

okay I'll be honest with you when you

make thirty million dollars a tough to

mature ya rut rust to me sorry when I

watch that first

but he's still young though a little

super young and that's the thing he said

he got four more years he's a mature

they say yo it took me all this time to

make thirty million I said yo you gonna

get punched in your face you you gonna

stop talking to me you better watch your

[ __ ] [ __ ] now you're fewer ones 26

little whippersnapper show you my ballot

you gonna relax rustling grinning I

haven't heard him talking a long time

but Russ to me is like that kid that

went away to liberal arts college and

then came home for Thanksgiving and

swore he knew everything at the table he

was like you okay you just shut the [ __ ]

up cuz you have no life experience it's

tough to tell [ __ ] didn't mean 30

million dollars that they don't know

nothing yeah it's true stuff and they

have a point by saying well clearly why

not you know something simple live on a

road yeah

live on the road do that when you 26 cuz

we need 36 yeah he's doing it did a lot

of people live on the road on the road

in 10,000 people venues owe me well yeah

that's tough there's definitely a

difference but I think it's great what

he's doing I think there Russ and Uzi

because I left there feeling like I

figured it out a little bit okay and

I'll give this away even though the

interviews not out but it's such an

amazing interview that you'll feel watch

it is great interview Republican show

it's an amazing interview you'll listen

to it don't worry I know you'll listen

it's amazing because you're not gonna

see me you're not gonna see weirdo a and

weirdo be next to each other like that

very rarely are you gonna get two

weirdos together like me and Russ who

are just gonna be able to say whatever

to each other you're not gonna get it

find me two other weirdos all the ones I

can think of they won't get on they

won't get on camera that's what I mean

when I said when I say that but Russ and

Uzi at the precipice of SoundCloud

Goodkin SEC work they did it I only know

it because we're at the precipice of

this great but certain people have been

at the precipice their audience that

none of us can understand some people to

understand whose e [ __ ] because he's

young and he didn't know all that saucy

swag [ __ ] but Russ you know his music

anyway

you don't have anybody bumping you don't

see them Jimmy not only girls wear the

first thing I said when I went over

there is yogini some [ __ ] like you

too successful nano [ __ ] he said I

got him but I make him sign das

she's different how to move like the

rappers oh I get it weirdo but uh what

about saying what sustains it now I was

getting a point I'm gonna bluesy and OH

SoundCloud SoundCloud these guys had

started at [ __ ] started at the

beginning a SoundCloud roller wave to

the top of the SoundCloud and all they

did was just keep putting music out on

soundcloud SoundCloud was their DJ Clue

fuss so the same way we just kept

feeding mixtapes and it popped and it

worked but they didn't have a hold on

that system because the industry shunt

mixtape so you can't get paid for that

you're just doing that kind of black

market now they have it figured it out

so you just keep feeding feeding feeding

something that you can monetize or get

some metrics from that's what he did

it's like six years and any put now

Mountain it's the same exact thing that

they made me do yo go heat the streets

up and put an album out mm-hmm different

yeah I'll talk about even the podcast

what do you mean

I mean it was a SoundCloud podcast and

now it's a bigger platform I understand

that but it wasn't just exclusively

sound that was an Apple it was a few

places they just milked this one place

that mall wouldn't see everything I

wouldn't see everything but somebody

seen it cuz both of these shows is it

yeah I'm gonna go to Russia I just gotta

I gotta say me put a record out two days

ago and I hit a million I'm not saying

listen my audience don't give a [ __ ]

about Rus probably I'm only bringing it

up because when [ __ ] is successful if

you want to be successful you should try

to figure out in a scow that's it

he put a record out a few days ago and

two days later hit a million streams

he picks good music he does yeah we

gonna show you that to farming farming

if you want but I don't think it's the

case with him that's a natural thing he

has that he got audience somewhere I

just like to see a lot some people would

think is making ten thousand people into

arena regularly then fam if we if we can

put ten thousand people in an arena

we're on a regular baby well soon you

would never hear this podcast again

Wow Wow Wow let me tell you something

all right what else is going on in the

universe music playing I love them cuz

we pick eat ho and we and we [ __ ] like

someone album like their friends that

shouldn't count yeah I wouldn't even

have New York but how could you have

knew your bias and hate not possible or

dislike not trust nothing from New York

like that can't do that um

what did you say to this is that album

this is that album that he was making

when Kanye interrupted him you think so

yeah it might be I don't know if it had

the title Lost Tapes - yo Kanye made

these tapes lost honey lost the taste

all right okay yeah yeah I like Kanye

ever relax

he stole it even in game ballet now I

had a mold Istanbul yeah did any you

guys see the promo for it I did with the

tape with the even holes through it this

is why I just love NAS in his age like

bad so

Oh detergent I could just see how

confused nas was of like this is what

you now have to do to announce music on

Instagram I could see like I so I just

hold this yeah

see till his face was whole like alright

that's it

that's why do you think he knows no I'm

I'm saying his age like he's that's

dissing someone for being I didn't know

I just thought it was funny when you try

to put an artist that's not from this

era of social media [ __ ] to the now is

game to announce a tape on Instagram and

he's just standing there like I said

this is it no just hold this and they're

gonna buy it

like I don't have to go see Angie right

now that is the case I saw the producers

have run that up at one point when I was

in the studio they had all the names

next to the songs and the Pro Tools

folders I was like quite a bit he drops

a subtle flecks quite a bit I don't know

if anybody noticed is out beer a little

bit he's got a nice line of offense the

case nothing out me was working on

though yeah what what else is happening

any any more albums coming any my return

of the dreamers three bus and J ID we're

talking about it and I think just now

everyone in dreamville changed their a B

to a yellow circle just know it's just

you mean we're getting this in real time

we Rory break breaking new co has

changed his everything go oh this means

they're preparing for peak love that did

you think of one give it something

popularity when it stays the every time

you know you know what Jimmy you know

what changed and he wouldn't Colin Jude

it's time

no you know that yellow picture I sent

you happy

the j.cole [ __ ] phone inbox so we

don't hit no then she hit little pop

little pump it's time for me I'm not on

jury building Oh sweetie God over pretty

cool Oh cold fast about Frank old phone

all day vault here go along with it

he'll sit on the phone with a prank oh

absolutely

let me over tell me what you what you

going through in life do it like this

why are you doing this it's a little odd

that you sound just like Joe Biden yeah

Joe can't change his voice at all you

only change his voice it sound like you

sound like Joe Budden trying to do

impression of not Joe Budden yeah I'll

do a little parks bliss I heard some of

it Jay ideas definitely stand out on

everything I heard there's one

particular that's a rapping as negative

Eber though no you won there's one

particular ko verse on there that's

different it was like a faded picture of

a fire hydrant in the summer I just want

to know anytime I've talked about an

album on here prior shooting a thousand

but you got it and I'm bad a thousand

you got it though is he let's let's

pause for a second he was right about

Jim he was

let's give him honey for sure I was

right about Ari did you come in here and

say hey all right all right you get to

Ferrari uh-oh there's more emotion Lord

your album is good so much emotion

oranges it's for the best account for

one album and emotional oranges is one

so you got three that's sure what other

albums you came in here in said was so I

have to think but there's deaf

[Laughter]

that's up there

you mean we're so weird the mall stamp

in awhile I know it's been a minute

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produce stamp off some value out there

no I'm just taking a few things right

right right got it really got a really a

in are out there how to do it right it's

coming

don't don't fret no don't fret

right mole be frightened sometimes to do

a mole for it's better yeah I'm a

fretter more don't be a me no more and

talk about the highways no I just got

when I see you in the streets on yeah on

your G on your IG story I got to respond

to it no no no y'all see you okay I know

that Howie I know a [ __ ] block you just

came down to get all right Joe bottle

white into the psychology of why people

post the highway what are you doing over

there oh yeah I'm being chauffeured well

you have no business going that way

well so was taking me somewhere okay got

lost or you know spot no no no I was

traveling okay but we're on that highway

to the white stone and I that's one of

the quickest ways to the airport so that

let me know okay

I just wanted my [ __ ] to know I saw he

was moving around in the streets and he

called me cursing me out your own DNA

don't DM me saying yo I see you outside

yeah cuz you don't be officer you were

going to the beach in Long Island no

wasn't me one night he was out yo relax

relax it's crazy for his raw and

unfiltered this y'all so where we are

let me tell you something buddy I have

at least seven stories in the tub but I

want to give you also do the whites no I

want to give them right your way but

they don't pay us enough oh yeah Spotify

turn it up man turn these contracts up

so we could really get in our content

bag y'all know I'm saving it no no I'm

saving it the numbers gonna be

consistent all the way if you wonder why

the next sprite well I didn't hit

[Laughter]

oh [ __ ] act like you know we talk about

those I was reading my vote on a zip no

idea what y'all regardless I'm just

honestly reading my saves everything lol

sings everything alright alright alright

what else what else is there to discuss

what else is I watch the black off all

the documentary yet oh my god

yeah yeah yeah where's that that's

what's called yeah yeah man amazing

amazing that's another thing that had me

into just you have to respect eyes eyes

realize realize realize man man we were

you first heard that hip-hop for like a

year

real real eyes realize real CEO Wayne

Wayne came in and remixed it and said

where the latex before you get that late

text saying I'm late text and I was like

alright [ __ ] the eyes and the lies I

need to get some condoms co-brothers

library is lies buried mm-hmm

listen y'all getting deep with it I'm

still amazed that Drake was in the club

with his ex and his next and his present

that was the formula oh [ __ ] are you

getting out of that as any left it start

telling us about our loss of blackberry

no no he was hopeful at that time I was

like nah if they all win it I'm with it

drink they're not over not with that

great views Drake maybe oh no they

wouldn't know oh [ __ ] it's all in listen

he just came out the tunnel relax calm

down so Clarence Avant lies older older

people and just their experiences and

their travels what they've learnt from

being just through the different decades

here like that's what I was just stuck

on after that after that all yeah I

watched I watched the black Godfather

then I watched the coin see one right

after that again just to kinda just just

get all of that holy [ __ ] I don't think

they don't watch the Quincy of course I

did yeah yeah just those stories and

those experiences are priceless to hear

those two sit down and talk about the

business and how it started and what was

going on back then and how it still

affects things today and then when it

was all about all the bigwigs and the

music business was beef in that point

over to Michael Jackson estate in the

7th 3rd and Clarence Avant was the one

in the room that was overseeing all that

[ __ ] I'm like what so Disney sitting

here all of these big [ __ ] companies

and he's the guy that's like this is how

I was gonna go hmm I was ok if I was

something I need to watch yeah check

that out yeah yeah it was great yeah

yeah he was ill yeah he's you got us a

little got us a little and I get it

though it within 10 minutes of watching

it you understand why he was so

successful and why he was so key and a

lot of moments and over the years

because you just get it from his

personality like I understand it like I

get it he's just like straight ahead

like listen this is what it is period

I'm not gonna [ __ ] you you ain't

gonna [ __ ] me don't you long because

I picked that up from him too mmm and

I'm attracted to people like that oh

absolutely I super enjoy that quality in

people

don't you and just enjoy when you meet

some money and you feel that like and

I'm only asking cuz you know get

you don't get it a lot you don't get a

lot today but when you meet somebody and

they give you that just feel of

authenticity like fan

I hear the [ __ ] is what it is and

that's just the bottom line

yeah I do like that and back then

especially with that type of mentality

in foresight he had to win I would love

to know the secrets that him in Quincy

Jones no no God I mean right after that

the world is not set up for us to know

certain things though of course it's not

it's just not know and I think and

honestly it's some things I don't think

I shouldn't think the earth isn't flat

yeah it's certain things that I don't

think we shouldn't honestly so to keep

serving [ __ ] from you I don't want to

know everything so ignorant is bliss

absolutely to some degree act totally

will have the ignorant I don't want to

know everything I think once you because

too much information is dangerous to me

I think that once you have too much

information it could be crippled

dangerous yeah definitely I mean you

look at some of the great leaders that

we had you know I'm saying like they had

so much information that people noticed

that and it was like alright he's a he's

a threat that's when you become a threat

when you have too much information

of course and then that's when they get

rid of you and just the masses and I I

can't trust every single person that's

in the masses so if you give the masses

a certain bit of information mm-hmm

everything's [ __ ] yeah so yeah I think

to some degree ignorance is bliss great

documentary I'll get a mastership

because everything will result to public

unrest the public can't handle [ __ ] at

all if it's a bad storm coming this bad

like you think we're gonna tell y'all

that the [ __ ] aliens tried to rob the

White House you gotta keep people

ignorant to a degree so they will flip

out over a storm mm-hmm like you have to

scare people and if they know everything

how could they be scared yeah like I

came over here and told everybody that

it rains every Friday and it hasn't

rained since see that Weather Machine

yeah you did that I did that yeah well

enjoy your weekend that's what I'm

telling you race race race racism is the

wrong fight man

gonna be fighting about whites versus

blacks and a [ __ ] tsunami is gonna

wipe out half of this nation that's a

fact you know water it's the element

it's coming to elements coming down

coming down nature's always gonna win

fam and my family I was pulling it we

were flying in and flying into New

Jersey from where I was flying into

where's the window up to just take a

peek at the last five minutes of the

landing just staring at the water okay

just stare at the water in New Jersey I

can't tell you you shouldn't just keep

just for five minutes be in the air and

see the water from the air versus the

land and then think about that times 20

billion right and Wow

we humans are really just diseases that

[ __ ] up anywhere that we land yeah not

all oh no oh you still go to some carry

one of us

[ __ ] up [ __ ] up wherever we are no

that's not true it is true that's my

baby America maybe it doesn't have to be

true it is from humans it's true there's

a lot of you in Paris we think we are a

lot of humans yeah there's a lot of play

learn about on a planet where is still

beautiful and people who live off the

land

okay no we thought I understand what you

don't respect the land and they take a

little Inn where a [ __ ] cancer

Oh Mary if you look at definitely a map

and just see where humans are just sure

and it looks like a cancer in if you

were Americans

so the [ __ ] stupid human things yeah

whites and blacks lag there's gonna be

some holes to be a volcano to just start

walking through New York what day

hey guess what man [ __ ] al Sharpton

and Trump gonna be running this anyway

[ __ ] me it'll be the same hot oh [ __ ]

the [ __ ] we would be fit about man

doesn't matter hey I'll be dead and gone

smoke well so we have faring a beer to

see those bulls yeah

alright fine since you only do that I

got you Mic Check one two one two yeah

Oh what drunk tone that Wow oh I made a

little flanger on him

everyone knows that's your thing

everyone knows when Salinger's only

verified water year when a joke button

pod takes out standing under water hold

your breath to pull up from 40 hold your

breath is there anything else important

that we need to get to could trust me

with initiative over I got between

outstanding I think we should touch

bushwick bill and 100 100% let's do is

get some ghetto boys playing 100 don't

tell me y'all got no ghetto boy sarado

ue band he's looking out a different way

buddy

god dammit hey ice we really gotta put

him on to get a voice I was just about

to get my laptop we really got to teach

ice about ghetto boys one of these days

hey I gotta let this rock for I'm sorry

I'll give you what about libraries oh

you might need the let's go Willy

what [ __ ] said Willie [ __ ] up I had a

rewind this man cuz this verse this

verse goes totally different if you

really knew what Willie was about like

if Willie is saying he can't sleep at

night and he tossing and turning

yeah oh man

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see every time I blow I start sweating

some of y'all know nothing about this

type of pain and that's why just sweet

hip-hop will always just hit y'all

different from me I've closed my eyes

and my nose is bled just started

bleeding 1,000% distress you ever blow

your nose and the broker come out with a

little rain oh [ __ ] yesterday they never

been followed you have been tailed a

million way home and seeing something to

review like mmm it's you different were

you driving and they could pull up

behind you with the bike rack on his own

car you think it's the cops

you ever got boxed in y'all want to

start having real conversations on this

boxed in yeah somebody say take it it's

rapid and it's for real hey many men you

can't fake it can't fake many men hey

that that beautiful melody wish death

upon upon me

hey when the writers get to brighten up

on me from Queens blood in my own man it

was trying to bust these [ __ ] heads

over man salute else Udall evenings

yeah I posted some pictures over over

the weekend on my [ __ ] uh Joe

Budden anniversary and somebody in the

clip the jump see the clip was AB Zab

pulling up a homeboy I thought that was

great that was should be a real TV show

I do why is it not why do I know they're

not trying to produce that Prince was

apt to he was in the hospital after his

last fight yeah yeah so I know you

bleeding on the brain I think they said

so France to him I was shocked there's a

but still even fighting overseas at

forty one like that just seems that

recently I always get excited when I see

[ __ ] that I you that like are from

that era of club in like the oh three

era of being out so Sciences at but to

see him still fighting yeah man

prayers I hope he's doing well from home

I last heard he's he's doing better

awesome awesome awesome and listen don't

get it [ __ ] up when professional

fighters get [ __ ] up don't think that

your man and the local bodega can take

them still let me be the one to inform

you that not you gotta have a fight on

your hands hey you heard what Dad said

hey I need five outside that tell you

something is all you're not a long five

yo you in the street man we ready for

the 92nd Square

we're not ready for a [ __ ] with stamina

to stand outside of our job and say hey

give me five minutes that's like three

o'clock high back in the day

ninety seconds really saw his face you

and me outside so do a face though

he was gonna let

talking yeah I loved every moment of

that I bet you was I bet you were just

talking bill man we got a we got a

do-more oh yeah back to Bushwick bill

man quickly I wanted to ask how many

rappers you think ever jab like Zab in

their business Zab words that was a

punchline for a very long time yeah yeah

his name rhymes so cool yeah rhyme with

Jam when your rhymes jab like Zeb listen

Judah Annie was from Brooklyn so all of

the cool Brooklyn rappers were [ __ ]

was Annie was in the streets like every

night but some have a cool conversation

you don't put that thing in one of my

roms tomorrow yeah yeah yeah any jabs

yeah many a night you spotted that

yellow Lamborghini just somewhere around

three nights in the world damn car I

knew and I know I say this a lot but I

knew that I knew your old James car

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James trust me Jerome I know all of us

say cuz I couldn't figure it out for

years but now I understand I get it yeah

okay all right bill pancreatic cancer

pancreatic cancer it was an early report

that came out and I really dislike when

this happens early report came out said

he was no longer with us the family

sweet he is with us keep fighting and

then think that was the next day yeah

yeah he's weird man so uh man to see