Chummy Chummy

[Music] [Laughter]

microphone check one two what is this welcome to episode 272 of the Joe Budden

podcast I'm your humble gracious and grateful host Joe button here with a few of my nearest and dearest friends I have

mall to the right I have parks here Rory is here Erikson is here save on is here we have a

special appearance from Brandon I want to shout out our Spotify listenership I want to shout out our YouTube viewer

ship I want to shout out our first time and last time listeners I want to shout out all the ladies who might be

listening to us y'all don't get enough credit who else do we need to shout out the truck drivers delivery driver

yes sometimes I do sometimes I like to

cool man place to centralize and figure out who you want to pop yeah cyphers in

the hallway outside for snipers in the hallway know it cuz rap stopped in the

2000 okay look they still do that now

fights at lunch not easy you can't auto-tune little chaotic tune in the in the hallway of [ __ ] you are not being

away with the little talk box [Laughter]

I would find a way to kill the whole way ciphers today I'm sharing with you I

would rather have something with me that would be kind of funny I would like to see a comedy sketch of that cook nanny

pulling out of a box in the trap trap beat yeah and a day doing a few beatbox the trash synthesizer are you banging on

a lunch from table no mornings in there don't sell I get either wait so anybody

else people that wait in line and Auntie Andy's in the airport just showing you

out for your own personal safety cool people that eat those pretzels at the airport the line is always long for

surprises and I never understand that auntie auntie Laurie yes it's always crowded I want to shout out to the

people that slowly come out when another car is speeding and then just go slow

like you see me doing 75 yeah and you know also ruin the day like when you try

to be nice to a white white person you hold the door open because you feel like you poor looking right now you just keep

walking hate that sarcastic you're welcome

they don't give you the white people to black people smile you know that one I

got the whites on the home white zone that's my why do why do we know that smell because all why do you talk to

black people we're where would you

gentlemen like to like to begin what a recap our la adventure swim wall won't

give us a recap of what he was doing when he wasn't with us I was much though show you were doing things

that we kind of didn't really see much of each other parks in the hood to the Comedy Store because he was long gone in

Calabasas where are they gonna go way back did you mean yeah oh you got there before us yeah I don't know why we eat

sexy and I should wear shady friends yeah and I didn't know what mall was doing iron in a radio heard on the radio

yeah when you wasn't with me no what does that mall had bought a

radio spot no it's over yeah let's radio LA leakers freestyle it's coming out as

YouTube videos on price editing la la la la why you dry you said you don't want

to move now that's not what she was talking last I was he was kind of saying you liked it

mr. port we've been there we should all come a bit more often

no you said we should spend like six months out there more time yes six months is a long time that's like a

half movement yeah I'll take a half move I do I really do like one week of the month to something like that one week

just like la just opens too late for me what you mean opens too late everything

I'm awake at 5:00 okay you shouldn't be awakened which is please which is what

we'll see you - am i late what can you do in New York at 5:00 a.m. things like what not should be open in

New York Friday at 5:00 a.m. yeah name one fan by the time - about

it's on my lip Brooklyn out come back brush my teeth

[ __ ] the laundry man to be open the cleaners to be open the gas station to be open laundry man oh my breakfast by

opens at 6:30 let me talk about this bodegas open 24 there's breakfast well

no one has a job in LA nobody works no no when you see someone

working until I've never seen it no no besides a hotel staff when you've ever Saito who are parties under hey I'll be

trying to get on my label man [ __ ] and be industry like now we not office today like things are Wednesday

cool I'm staying at the Mondrian though they tried to charge me 875 for two bananas you can keep those two bananas

okay thank you 874 two bananas the audience room thought about doing it I

was becoming a better person we was on tour and key for some reason would go in our group chat and say everyone's room

number where they were staying I was like I know all your last names Maddy's

well I didn't do it mom how come at no point in it in that a Nicki interview

did you jump in during her cyberbullying rant and tell her not to look at her phone but that's

been the question last couple ordered just put the phone down you says what as

soon as it was over when she was on live or after know during the podcast yeah

she was on live for half of our podcast that's true you were on it - you kept going hey guys are you talking about

that part of the interview when she was all in the belt when she when she was talking about being bullied yes okay you

said how come what how come you didn't say hey just put phone down it got to a point where I was

just happy she wasn't yelling someone she was just talking just let her talk what no on Queen radio when you you were

going at that point I had asked her at what point do you not care where strangers say which is similar to saying

close your phone yeah you did I remembered her and she said I'm human

doesn't turn over well it's in a

turnover if I'm a mole but I mean Fame I wasn't happy wasn't yelling it was he

notes I respect that it was a lot of yelling yeah I was just like you know what just go ahead everybody's talking in a calm voice guy just get it

coming back and listen to Tarzan what is bad if you was I know it wasn't cheese

has a natural deli voice a little bit yeah she does it cuts you and that that

was certainly not my first time being cussed out by a woman so I took that all in stride yeah she really gave it to you

she wasn't maliciously I knew off queen radio when we were breaking with that she wasn't being serious about their no

so that's why I knew what that was yeah which was fine she was a sweetheart but me I don't I

don't say Rory and I have this conversation a lot and let me move this this is not pertaining to Nikki I want

everybody to confuse we have this conversation a lot about different artists when it's like okay some of

these people are really really nice or like really really sweet or appear to be

how do you gauge the difference between the on switch and off switch are like

the showmanship versus who you are how

do you gauge it yeah like if there a way to ever really know if somebody's like

actually the way that they're portrayed yeah I think I take some time though

that's really a first conversation well I'm some I hope you're ever face to face

with oh oh no I meant more so from a fan perspective Oh didn't know that's hard you can you doubt it can't really I

don't mean I don't mean us it's rare that you're getting a celebrity to disengage their celebrity persona

yeah I'm camera on microphone mhm yeah it happens sometimes some people are good at that like drawing that out of

somebody but it's rare and a lot of ours have to be open to that to like an

artist coming in knowing I'm not saying this with Nikki or any other interview that we've ever had they still have to be willing to come in there and want to

do so right I mean you can't ask them all they could dance all day I'm not faulting the interview for an artist

dancing but you know if they want to open up they will if they don't then you're just gonna get a surfaced interview right I want to thank her

again for for joining us and sharing her platform as well I'll start with that I

don't really have any more to say about about that we start unless y'all wanna no no I don't thanks for coming yeah

the feedback was interesting it was ironic she kept using the word case study cuz I certainly use it as one from

my mentions hmm just interesting to see how people interpret things that's all

oh there was one point cuz I mean when she started we still might the Rose the Rose game thing we didn't know who she

was talking about it for how we all thought game yeah and then he was describing game but that's what I would

say I was gonna stop my say but game is the king of he had a whole record directed at all the women that he

allegedly had sex with so I was gonna stop him once I was like but I was still kind of cookie she's game Ross I didn't

maybe she said sit your fat ass now I said oh okay I'll sit my fat ass now

yeah but I don't think she obviously likes oh yeah I did a video together you

she always like likes gamers that person more well I think she does like Ross is

a rapper more she wouldn't say she she obviously doesn't feel no type of I mean she didn't big game up in a rap way she

just said she didn't know she went straight to Ross yeah like so she was talking about let's go take that like yeah you [ __ ] Ross music but he'll

mall is crazy how that's not a fair assumption I think I think she ignored

that question to directly respond to Ross on a Paloma yeah he said any

engineer updating rap respond respond get worse what he said he said yeah I

sent that text to me that was before I found out she wasn't the one like yes

algorithm pretty much exactly what he said yeah that's his response I kind of wish Ross would have dived a little bit

more into that point of saying she was the in between between Drake and meek

she was kind of the facilitator and I was really interested to see where we're also was gonna go with that and then

they kind of just moved on like Ross didn't get into how Nikki could have played better in that role you just

understand what people would have wanted her to do in that position like what D do you do in that position like what

could she have done hey guys you shouldn't make records about each other you shouldn't know it's like that's what

we are that that's why I couldn't understand if Ross was alluding that she was playing both

sides and that I didn't understand what Ross was getting at once he started with the one saying that okay what do you do

he was honey wasn't saying she was playing both sides he was saying it was just a very fragile position to being

fragile meaning any wrong move either way his image so so much absolutely yeah

that's that's just what I took from it and if I'm looking at it today I've what I took from him saying you know anybody

cool she went his way I mean she went away he went his way when his way what I took from that is that's the result I

don't seem to [ __ ] do do as you called him we clearly see

that crossing her and and we don't know what's going on with her and Drake so I mean a lot of people wanted us to ask

that question I wasn't I wasn't gonna ask it I didn't even think about it I did it's my number one question I want

to ask it I just had I just don't think [ __ ] is too some [ __ ] is too personal

and I come on in and talk a lot of [ __ ] but I'd be thinking I'm about 87% and

some of the [ __ ] I think and if I and if I'm thinking that while you're in my face I'm gonna respect you right I'm a respected I'm not gonna sit here and

think some and then throw it out there mmm like if you don't if nobody is saying it all right but that's one so

I'm looking to break break a story I don't like asking gossipy questions yeah

me too like now she was somewhere saying go [ __ ] Drake I don't [ __ ] with him then it's like ain't no gossip then you said

it you said you don't [ __ ] with him then it's like oh why don't y'all [ __ ] with each other but if we just think they

don't [ __ ] with each other right now that's gossip well do you think it's gossip if you ask yo you have an issue

with this woman you've been had a friendship and business relationship with this other person for so long and

then he then brought her on stage is that gossip I would like to know how you feel about that I don't think it's a

gossipy thing that sounds gossipy how it's a little gossipy I just said it sounds gossip I'm just saying out town yeah I can't

ask certain gossipy like [ __ ] was in my mid to kill you should have in the fam I'm not no gossipy [ __ ] I'm never gonna ask nobody public mores on camera

or cabinet the dude you let a scream while you wanted like what you want to be yelling a girl but that's how I felt

when [ __ ] were saying we should me or or we should have left well that do you

know how stupid we would have looked well notice they think they didn't do the post I'm saying that after all what

it appeared to be even if she didn't do the part like what what comes out of it

oh because again we didn't know Joe wasn't coming back in the room one that's number one and two it was like it

wasn't like that's a good point she was people also take that people also take like the celebrity that type

of beef as like real beef yeah you don't say that's why I said the world is going crazy the world that's people are really

out of their mind at what you all do and and we don't take yelling like it

doesn't really faze what anyone in this room that's why I laugh cuz it's just that's why I asked you that question earlier because the coin is two sides to

the coin some of the artists and most artists and this is this is what I'm used to are super super nice to the

public and on camera and they're [ __ ] and [ __ ] behind a car

behind closed doors right that's coming that's that's the common one but then there's the very rare occasion where

somebody is just a [ __ ] personify publicly and they're pretty cool behind

closed doors you're one of them thanks I was gonna say are you are you alluding to something very well well no

I think in even listening to that Nicki interview is fun Wow while she was and in every thread some comments like yells

Nicky Joe got a lot in common and I was cursing out the people that was saying that in my head I'm wearing what the

[ __ ] eat up but then when I listened back he has some other stuff that she

was saying like I thought she was a little nuts at times and me too I'm not

at times so I get it yeah and I thought she was loud at times your lime loud I'm loud a

lot and yet I can't say that behavior from Queen radio wasn't similar to some everyday struggle [ __ ] that you've done

where it appears that you are much mater and louder and angrier thought about

that and I said wait the [ __ ] wait it's just chicken genius one alone because I know what I

do in front of that camera right like I'm not telling you but you just know

and she has that she does that no that's

it yeah notice why she has her own show so here's a few reasons as years I want

you uh Larry Jackson shows you uh yo stop talking about me Duke stop

spreading rumors no he didn't say Duke he no he did he did in an Apple

professional way say your family keep my name out your [ __ ] mouth I stand there all the time you know what Rory I

don't even want to joke with you because you have your own Apple beef okay right so don't create one with me you're not

gonna stand with me man Larry general did the days of us standing together are over

they don't even each other out when I walked out a drink shampoo no I don't really think some of you

[ __ ] know some of the things I do behind your back feel no they don't even help me and you anyway Larry Jackson

Apple beef yeah if me and Larry Jackson decide to shoot it out that'll be

between him and I but we had a very polite super-great pretty pretty cool

and I wanted to put that out there because I did say that you know I said that was very hospitable yeah pretty I

will say the snack selection at some of our Spotify shoots was a little scarce compared to Apple radio and everybody

actually oh man wait a minute man we got to bring home we caught up real quick man what

happened come on think about it yeah I think worries [ __ ] but I don't think what I see for staying in the radio

station while I was outside see that's fan made up [ __ ] but nothing's playing back in my head

second week that Laurie stepped out the van on Apple we start texting [ __ ] trying to find out if Zane was gonna be

there you see I had a shorty from Apple

meet us right there at my muscle with my

ally in there that would be of the utmost hilarious score yup I'm not

breaking it up that would be enough it

is yes something else happened from there oh wait we set up

oh yeah and she replied the show man after man not shocking no no she was off

the Opera but that's why it's hard she replied show me saying what she said

something about I went when Charlemagne thinks I'm about to talk bad about her he'd get all excited and its tail

started wagging and it supposed to get all extra wet and all types of disrespectful [ __ ] after Charlemagne he's had nothing but

great things about her that's how it usually happens but he did look on inside lookie

oh no I don't keep in mind if your relationship [Laughter]

oh look at you that's a joke disgust that is a joke the mate is your brother

that's crazy [Laughter]

another beef you trying to get me I mean cuz you and I see what were you doing

man not give me away what would I be doing man group me in with your beef you fight that 105

Breakfast Club alone no more got your back yeah more with me for sure my god

ride with me sure she said she was Rory

rundown I'm net lunch right now unlike

you Joanne I'll run when Apple radio

there's a lot of memes I'm quite the cartoon ever see that boy yeah

Joe catching a toy I want to start 30

minutes in did any we care about Trina's response while we was on responses here's a classy woman yes class

personified people watch this you what did she say she said let me handle it

type [ __ ] basically she said that any for any mix-up or any confusion

concerning regarding her album in the video and certain people not showing up him XYZ it's all on bad business it has

nothing to do with Nikki has nothing to do with anything but bad business nest

falls on me that falls on my team I don't want y'all saying anything disrespectful to her respective [ __ ]

very respectful for you know thanking everybody for me on the album but didn't icky say that Trina

no no it was the makeup artist or now that a in our tree today in our I think as well was yeah okay okay yeah no great

was a classy of training course yeah well sure it is classy yeah and she's better that's for a while so

and when she made that video I don't think she was about to come on in alright I'm gonna give it to her now

Anna um don't y'all try to deflect take

a look at okay we deflecting you said

don't deflect I didn't know what was deflected family ties tell me King to

label no no no now you don't know no

brother you never threw up the diamond yeah oh don't about Jay sumo I'm lost I

don't how do you I'll talk about it got you now yeah we can talk what is sure

yeah that's what I was already deflected he's looking at me too me too

yes talk about it let's talk about it

goddamn it okay so holds new partnership with the NFL partners John so I'll be so

happy whenever at least yeah they don't be known huh I'm so sick of it now Oh what is it a deal you prefer deal no

partnership is the graduation from deal so yeah they need a new one okay that's

what I was asking in last interview I did what is a partnership like they don't say nothing uh a deal was a

partnership to no yes and no we were working toward the same thing no we're partnering no cuz I guess a

partnership would still have different equity in things I think that I think what hired jay-z yes I think it's I

don't think I don't think it's partnership yeah I've you and I could be wrong if you look up the word put I've you a partnership more as an equity

share Korean you hire me for something correct that's nice making a deal well what did

he do oh the NFL hired rock nation home to

oversee the entertainment portion of the NFL specifically the Super Bowl and to

bring more awareness to social justice issues and programs within the NFL I believe I've said that correctly

that's a memory from what I read hmmm Roger Goodell and Robert Kraft have been

that's yummy chummy Robert Kraft looked like he gets jumpy

that's not a criminal justice the reform the whole thing came about from Equus was through Robert Kraft I know I don't

know I don't tell us about the good stuff bro well I think this is I didn't I think this is an extension of that I

think this is an exception of of of starting mutual conversations among

amongst each other starting businesses starting language so that they understand our culture more like I don't

see the negative like people and I think people have to remember that Colin Kaepernick also anytime they say that

they have to remember yeah cuz I don't think people remember that he he reached a settlement a settlement agreement with

the NFL all my defense I'm just saying black and white so if he's okay if he

reached a set of meaning he felt like it was okay whatever they we never got the hint analysis when they signed an NDA

vest what would you there's my beef what would you say about the concerns that the NFL or similar corporations would be

using J as a shield using him as a shield correct to say hey we're doing something we have jay-z well I wouldn't

say a shield I would say it we at first of all we have to wait the deal just happened great we don't know what will

come of it I agree so I like that's what I'm saying people are just so quick to react in and spew whatever they think

it's like you I don't even know what's going to happen there but they're reacting this way to further Park this point because this is littered all

throughout history has every kid mm-hmm white people I want to choose my words

carefully here white people paying their way into black

people's cultural capital okay I think that's a good way I think those I think

those same people I like to call them like the social media uh Avengers no but this

is habit way before social no I'm just saying I'm someone right now I didn't see none of this like outrage towards

other players that weren't kneeling I didn't see this this type of outrage towards some of his teammates that

weren't kneeling that's what we're like I didn't see not like this no we don't like people still - then don't say people that was angry

still watch the Super Bowl they still played fantasy football they still did all these things regarding NFL but now

it's like are a large group of people including yourself who did not write I still don't watch the NFL that's my

point so let's not speak to the people there but there are large part of people that are still down with the boys absolutely but what I'm saying is like

Jay was saying boycott great make your voices heard and don't support but then

what what do we do further like like you said it's time for action no it's time

that we do other things to to build and move on like we have to otherwise it's

like okay Colin Kaepernick did something that he lost his job over it he brought he brought social awareness to a

situation but then what I subscribed to the seat at the table theory that's

number one I do you have to get in the building but only when I trust the person in the seat

and I guess that's why I maybe don't have as big a beef with hope as some of

the people that I'm reading comments from halls history is also littered with mad Pro black secretive I'm gonna pay

over it like it's been that uplifting that's been mad a lot of times that he doesn't make public anything so he

doesn't make public mmm it's a pretty staunch history of being supportive yeah

which yeah I think it comes down to seeing what happens in if hope which I don't think he will be is quiet through

some of the in justices that are not addressed if the NFL continues to do so and he's quiet then yeah I'd be critical

of the deal mm-hmm but I just don't think that's gonna happen right so yeah I can't and a grinning I'm a white guy

so I'm letting you guys talk first on this issue yeah I can't see an opinion on it yet

I have to see the deal will actually go through and I trust the person that the OP is right there optics are degrees

they're not the greatest and I think he also messed up I'm saying that he spoke with cap when he hadn't spoke with cap

at least recently regarding the deal that was a misstep now that did come

from him directly know what I came from necessary thing no I'm not he said well

in the article I didn't see the video they haven't released the full video but in articles they said that he had spoke

with cap I know but that don't tell me that he said that's true that is true it should be honest I'm not gonna put that

on him I just had that happen in a variety article written about me from the nicking ship where they said some [ __ ] like family you don't know you know

yeah so I'm not I'm not gonna do that but I read that as well right I've read that it came from him and here we have

necessay and nobody ever reached out to cap well one thing I can't say about Jay

is he's not alive if he say he spoke to Kaepernick he spoke to cabinet about what when how long ago is a whole nother

thing I just can't that's easy to prove if he did that's

what I'm swayed more calculated than to say that he's nothing like him that's

that's a easy thing to keep proven wrong on right I would like to start hearing from Colin Kaepernick honestly I do

appreciate Nessa keeping us abreast I would like to start hearing about what

he thinks about anything outside of some tweets listen part of

his agreement maybe that he can't do that that may be true and that's the other reason I am about to release lamb

hold he took that settlement and we didn't get a [ __ ] word about it and I

ain't forgot hmm that's why I'm not mad that he took a settle I'm not mad either corsola I'm no I'm very happy about that

yeah I I think a lot of I think I speak for a lot a lot of people wanted to know the details now that I do want to date

the details behind what happened there yeah and from the post we've seen with cap

working out it appears that he still wants to play in the NFL no mm-hmm they're not never let an implant in her

I agree I don't think they will either but you knew we should have bet money he should play

that might be a there's a settlement when you took absolution fam when you that settlement means you're settling

something but didn't hear agreed also settle in the same the same look it up

but he's still in the league door yes oh yes when that's my issue with Eric Reid

you still get a check yeah you did right yeah so he got the settlement and still

get a check which great great I love a I love Eric Reid's and integrity it's a

but [ __ ] still do what they got to do mm-hmm he's getting paid Colin got paid

yeah oh god baby yeah like I said I just

like to see us represented at the table and I think that starts that has to it

has to start somewhere and I just think this is a start my thing is when people getting up said oh you shouldn't do this it it's like you don't even know what's

to come of this like why are people always so quick to react to something to jump on something and slant and slander

something when they don't even know what's get ready to happen like that's why I keep saying well I saw I saw a lot

of people saying okay what the hell is the NFL gonna do to change anything with

social injustice so I thought about that point because I noticed a lot of people saying it like how on earth is the NFL

gonna get police brutality to stop so I don't [ __ ] with this whole [ __ ] like this is just a business move let's be

clear police brutality will never stop I think people need to understand that first and foremost I'm not it will never

stop like that it's not gonna come a day where a police officer will never Lee will never bring harm to someone that

isn't warranty like that's never gonna stop who's never gonna be in the day was like that doesn't happen anymore it's

gonna because those are just subjective cases they you run into people that may have mental issues that are officers

like you just there's no way to really gauge that but what are the what are the actions after that is what we can hope

will change officers are suspended or sentenced to prison and things like that but will somebody will they come a day

when somebody nobody's ever beaten up by a police officer killed by a cop I don't think that will ever happen hope you'll

just be an honest hope even said in the interview or I can press conference whatever he said you can't just throw away someone

if they make a mistake it's the real world you can't say oh you made a mistake you're canceled I'm never speaking to again that doesn't

accomplish anything that's what I believe regarding the he was anticipating the criticism of partnering

with NFL well he knew of course you get criticized you cannot make everyone happy of course I don't care what you're

doing this planet somebody will always have something negative to say about what you do yeah which is why you should

no have more negative to say don't do that more let's let's just paint this correctly yes you're right but they will

have more negative to say when you own a sports management firm and when last

year you told Travis Scott not to perform at the Super Bowl because it's not a body out of y'all I think ever the

sports management [ __ ] is more leverage you represent big athletes some have

more leverage telling you why some people will look at this with a little

more again no matter what you do in life I don't care what it is people will

always find something negative to say about it very really if J didn't have a sports management anything and he made

this move with the NFL on any capacity people would have have had something negative disabled especially with a

topic like this it's just like and that's why when you move in this world and you do things and create businesses and whatever you're doing you cannot

move thinking about what people are gonna say or think about you you have to move on what's in your heart and what

your intent is period because I don't care what you somebody's gonna find something negative to say oh he did this

only because of that or they she shouldn't did this oh she said you can do everything right and have a heart of

gold and people will still kill you for it that's his life which is why you can't you can't think about all that [ __ ] you

know in your heart Jay knows what he's doing he knows what's to come he knows what he has a plan in action he knows

what he's trying to do right now people just reacting because of the news two years from now let's see what happens

I'm not even really reacting off of the news I'm just seeing a whole lot of imma

imma give you a crumb and I'ma get back up high from certain

white people like Robert Kraft his

chummy-chummy would down the trunk mm-hmm the Dolphins owners [ __ ] raising money

over you all right cool you gave us me please I'm happy about that I'm happy about that and anything but at

what cost did we get Meek it's odd when

Donald Trump is calling somewhere for ASAP rocky that's odd when he's also

calling for Israel did not let those senators so great you you gave us ASAP

Rocky at what cost we never hear that part great that Kim Kardashian is meeting

over here to get however many black people freed mmm I love that at what

cost and that conversation never comes up and it's tough for it to come up

because all of this is draped in all of this humanitarian [ __ ] all [ __ ] what is

why prisons for blacks this way oh yeah like so so yeah I'm not mad at nothing

hope is doing em hmm I trust old great awesome I don't trust everybody at that table

hmm and I don't know how much information they're revealing to him

does he know at what cost and if he does text me I would love to know what I mean

to be and that's and that point is outside of whatever the [ __ ] all right this is the point that I've been

following for just months months ago I came with well it's all based off at the

end of it all this all money I think it's a good point and we all think hope is bright enough to realize that all those owners in the nfo clearly do not

care about social justice he's aware of that I don't think homes going in there like hey guys I'm gonna change the minds of all these rich white people that

clearly don't care all right no he's getting in there to get busy the way he best can he can't he

can't go in there thinking just because it's all these rich white people don't care I can't make some type of noise and

a difference in here he's confident he can do so so again let's see what he does with it but he's now he's well

aware that those rich white people do not give a single [ __ ] listen and maybe trying to use this as a way to do a

clean slate in a PR way I want listen I want hold at the table mmm and I [ __ ] I

[ __ ] with DAP I [ __ ] with dapper dan I had I had no I had no I had no horse in

the race when we were boycotting Gucci but I [ __ ] with DAP and dad had a seat at the table

that that didn't say much to me like I didn't have that same feeling now because I don't [ __ ] with dad I just

have a different trust level with holes understandable well he's from he's from

you know we were from those that grew up it yeah but he's he's closer in an age

uh definitely from the same culture as

we are and I think I just think that my thing again just let things unfold it's

happening all over America man just let things unfold people just so close to be an uproar

Nicky and Apple us and Spotify know it's happening everywhere this is where this

is where we are seeing that and that is gonna get me to my much bigger beef that I won't say until February or March

about how some of this money is distributed within the ecosystem and why it's distributed the way it is trust me

these two conversations go together but it's not for now what we talked about we're somewhat the deal rock nation do

okay you're told not to deal uh we just have to wait and see what happens man well played a clip Rory come on you so

busy with your defense you ain't even played a clip your equipment part search man that's crazy man everybody it might

be some new listeners hey bar that's crazy that's crazy come on boys day to go fill that cup up

may change man no everything's not crazy um I don't

like no home okay I think we passed kneeling and I think it's time to go

into actionable items I think everyone knows what the issue is and we we're

done with that we we've everyone knows we did we you know the issue is even if

he's right you know okay do you know the issue yeah then you know the issue yes

we all know the issue now okay next well we moving on next and I'm not again so

it should be clear but room I'm not minimizing that part of it because that has to happen that's a necessary part of

the process of true now we all know what's going on what are we going to do

how are we going to stop because the Nealon was not about a job it was about injustice let me bring attention to it

justice everyone's saying how are you going forward and cap doesn't have a job this wasn't about him having a job I can

understand how people would take that in a negative way I get it I totally get what ho was saying though I get what

he's saying but how do you take that in a negative way when he stops people s saying it's not minimize what he did

good well I sound I see exactly what you're saying it's also never too late or were never past

protest or awareness even if things are beginning to happen awareness and protest still needs to happen yeah and

that doesn't stop because you asked two people in the room if they knew what the protest was about well that was that

media he was talking to yes but I'm just I'm just I'm talking about the thing is

he's right in what he's saying I agree I just don't like how he think in protest you can stand outside and protest to you

turn blue in the face but actually then what yeah I agree and that's all he's basically saying like you can protest NFL great but then

what and I think his point of saying do you know the issue do you know the issue the people that know the issue know the

issue we know we're not going to convince anyone that's on the super right side or in Fox whatever you want

to call those type of people that are going to observe ative that this is disrespecting Americo how

could cap do this to the troops we're never gonna convince them of what cap was really trying to say who chose the

word the words conservative the English

language no I'm Tom as a group liberals be mad conservative now they've swapped yeah

but yeah so when I think that's what he was getting at do you know the issue the people that understand it understand it

the people that don't are gonna continue to do this circus of saying it's about the troops and all this [ __ ] so yeah

maybe you got to put some action now because we all saw what the kneeling did no it was great and it was really good right there's

always time for making more people over I just wish that they would have wrote

something for that part that's all you think it's coming off the top well for a

hill right [ __ ] guys it's true I don't

okay look I didn't want to hear that part promote even if you followed it up

with what what was correct I didn't want to hear you ask the two people if they

knew the issue you know I understand it's nothing wrong with it just ask more that's always pointing to and the part

that was and I get it he's so right but it's listen I ain't knock ain't not calling me I'll be oh not me no I think

it's hos point that we don't get here [Music]

okay why would she would have called you did hey I'll knock on out that [ __ ] don't

knock me it's hilarious to me oh oh I

thought you would say no oh I hope you

don't knock me hope to even if you knock me I mean damn I hope you didn't do that

that's how I felt when he said so what my face it's real like I didn't knock

his is moving in a way he went about doing bringing awareness injustice I'm going about it this way that's all I

know I know what is funny I know it is funny but I get it it's funny though oh we did right oh you know that's

something I'll say tomorrow I knew that was gonna happen so how about the people saying we killed Kanye but we're not

killing over how do you feel about that cuz I say it's two totally different approaches two totally different narrate

me with Trump and trying to you know bridge the gap or whatever he would said he was trying to do I said I think that

Kanye is trying to get tax breaks I'm trying to help us I never thought that I

value I value one for attention and one for progress and call me a dick runner

you are zero just throwing it throwing on a red hat and ranting about [ __ ] no

and then you saying you don't even understand the issues on top of that

Roger Goodell and started sounding like Roger Goodell then I would be worried

and I would be like oh [ __ ] do I have to get rid of lack out like if he started

sitting there she's saying a bunch of come on I don't think that's what he did I don't think that I did I think there's

some that yeah I didn't see anybody say that would that criticism I saw a lot yeah I don't see much of that because

the idiots I did see people say you guys love Kim but hey Jay but I thought that was also a weird

comparison yes that they praised Kim for going in and meeting with Trump to get

all these people out of jail now you're mad at Jay for being with NFL but I've listened men never make it and I think

what Kim did with great was great with all that I defer to people that are just smarter than me that's my whole thing

Tom will tell Tom reveals oh how old it tell it if we don't see any change if we

don't see any action that we don't see you great I'm open to being wrong about it absolutely 100% if I'm if I'm wrong I'm

wrong but I can't jump on it right now and bash the man for doing something where it seems like he's just trying to

get in at the table and make changes like let me at least read what Eric Reid is saying we never advocated for Colin

to lose his job while we fought against this systemic oppression that's unjust

and we're the NFL inserted itself into this now the NFL is championing social

justice to cover their own systemic oppression in blackballing Colin so we

will fight okay so we will fight to get

Colin's job back jay-z knowingly made a money move with the very people who've committed an injustice against Colin and

is using social justice to smooth it over with the black community what do we

think about it LT gets fair I don't think it's fair yeah unless he knows something that we don't know although

there was a money move aspect to it doing the entertainment or whatever but I don't think that that's isn't it you

can't you can tell his intentions you know what I'm saying like yeah without

more information or without seeing results or lack thereof and then

necessary I never thought I would see this headline in my lifetime I can't put into words the disappointment and disgust

I'm with cap forever jay-z helps the NFL banish chronic oh that's the headline

I'm not doing it that was a TMZ no I was joking I was article yeah

I'm gonna do that well-written article that the headline is a lot more aggressive than with the actual context

of what she wrote in there very supportive of what ho has done in the past with social justice and knows that

he has integrity towards all those things but she did not agree with the NFL deal but is well aware of his pedigree when it comes to social

injustice and everything that he has done okay does Jane know he doesn't have

a job because they blackballed him because he was trying to help millions and millions of people yo brah this

event I the world is going crazy I want to live - some of this stuff

ain't looking nice you cannot you will be replying all day is that what's

what's on caps timeline right now did he did he uh yes my knowledge he's been

mostly no he thanked the people for support yeah go for the arm they're just three year anniversary yet sensitive times and

sensitive stuff going on Kraft who developed a friendship with jay-z through their mutual efforts to secure release from prison for Meek Mill and to

launch earlier this year the criminal justice reform organization spearheaded the effort by connecting jay-z to

Commissioner Roger Goodell conversations begin last year in early January crafting Goodell traveled to Los Angeles

to meet jay-z after about five more meetings with other communications the partnership was finalized p.m. what will

be revealed man I'm not I'm not I'm not doing this right now no I don't think the optics of it is

great yes some of his wording was not yes I think some of the wording could have

been different but I'm certainly not gonna question the man's intent I'm not

gonna question his track record and I'm not going to question too much because he's one of the rapper's better than me

I think had the announcement had more of a plan rather than just what the deal

was like maybe they would have waited a bit and put together an actual plans here's what we mean by bring more

awareness in the NFL to social injustice people would have understood it a bit more rather than just announcing it they

still would have killed them but yeah I agree might have just been some more tears nothing you can do it that's gonna

make everybody happy mister period and especially now people

are waiting to me an uproar about anything neon care what it is they can take all the [ __ ] cherry loops out of

fruit loops and everybody's gonna [ __ ] go hysterically it's like you can't is whatever man you have a ball I

want to see the halftime show together okay Sal oh yes maybe you'll let me come

out and do my verse no use give me to do that [ __ ] hit early it's like that [ __ ]

ever the funny [ __ ] roaring it from now on you got started looking at the kitchen so you didn't see if a man is

waiting waiting to come in look over

listen at least at least I'm shooting yeah I'll just let the shot clock go out someone's trying to make something

happen or not you're more castrating off it walking straight into office I'm orchestrating the UH

okay from the box I didn't say anything hmm from the box from the post use did a

deal with em yeah yeah I'm like [ __ ]

Jovi that's nice you wanna [ __ ] on that

[ __ ] off though you buggin he's nice what's off to you every big bring it

tell me tell me [ __ ] leave chummy-chummy away and left

now that's off the backboard chummy-chummy on the old school nah that is old school so how's that be underhanded from the

fruit bat yeah Jovic is soft nah he's nice Joey

Tracy is nice he's super Knight don't say that but what is sort me now for the big minutes yummy chummy cuddly [ __ ]

nah who's harder there be a pause there's no big man that even played like big me no more

yeah but L mean if you can't shoot as a big in India right now you you're worthless you know that those days is

over I think I saw aa mall did you see uh well any of you but mall in particular

especially did you see the video of of Sebastian Telfair getting out saying ah

yes what did you think about it this

must be after the sins or at the sim

song yeah very very sad where's prayers for

Sebastian Telfair I know that whole entire situation was a [ __ ] mess so I could only imagine how how he could feel

when your family's involved with it it's not just you getting the sentencing for three years off a gun that you legally

own just not in that state but having your family that involved and according

to him lying on you that changes the situation a lot when it comes to just getting sentenced to jail I'll say I

said it once I said again be careful these women that you get with that you have kids with that you settle down with

you never know yeah was that picture of

the the weapons that were seized was that real I believe so ok yeah I believe so yeah it's public information at this

point he does legally owned those weapons yeah I put up on on Twitter

prayers for Sebastian self after I saw that video and my dimensions was flooded of why would I pray for a

criminal yeah I'm gonna pray let's say he's a criminal I could still pray I don't think he is

but yeah people don't even know what the word criminal means but whatever yeah I

was really really sad to watch that video my god you guys I got you

yeah man prayers to the family no a half years

for having the weapons in his car yeah cuz that he legally owned they were legally owned in Florida he did not have

a license to carry them in New York he purchased them in Florida when he was living in Florida and he is he was moving to New York so

he was obviously yet his belongings in his car yeah and I think during the

trial there was a lot of character witnesses a lot of his close family was just made it for a much harder time more

or less cuz a lot of what he's yelling about is a lot of the things that were said about him not exactly him having

that gun I was my as a question but I

don't want to seem like I'm trying to cope it all right good

hold up man whole lot of sad news been going on but let me tell you about this boat morning I got I did everything they

told me to do food trucks porta-potties smart move

lights special guests one of those job

Onion friends yeah we makers used to put

this specially invited special fans I still do no but the funniest [ __ ] when they really used to do that the people

were just invited they never confirmed yeah that was there was a loophole you don't promoters man yeah

you're doing uh are you doing birthday packages I didn't hear you were doing

birthday packages over a black King sing oh shut up boy all right we're do video what do you all

want to get to do you want to get to malls small questioning how women cheat or do you want to get to Magic Johnson's

top 60 male arm be far yeah dj khaled on there well that was his rappers yeah he

did he did singers he did I didn't see his rapper list oh oh is rapper list is

hilarious Oh his arm b-list Dougie fresh was on there I could see what there was

also like 13 well I poor poor magic probably because when I was 16 years old

you beatbox better I went and I did Showtime at the Apollo that's pretty

cool and I won wow congratulations oh yeah that's a common ground applause

and I won right for rapid for rapping and then they invited me back how'd your

song go I don't remember I don't remember and when they invited me back I

rapped again but dougie fresh was the host she's hard on him and I didn't win

this time but I think he had a lot to do with wide and when I finished they

literally say make some noise well no that's what he said and then I came out

and I ran was your name I don't know if they said Mouse then oh I don't remember

my memories bet yeah but that's the problem all he big me a miscibility what

happened I went out there in rap and at that time this is when I might have been trying to pass out demos and rap with this was I'm

rappin in another rapper and when I finished so when I was nowhere near the

same reception I just received for the same record yeah so I think I gave him

some spice at some point we would [ __ ]

you Frisco true and I'm not trying to stir you first no no he's a legend of course he's a legend but I don't think

you would say yeah I don't and we pieced

it up I would hope so when did you pee fresh man after that

did you remind him he reminded me oh you remember man had one of one of them shoots at some point I made sure you

where you improved yeah cuz the power that's how I used to work right you have

to go to like win like three times before you make it tonight yes I'm sure I think I've won twice -

that's why it was bad yeah yeah dougie fresh at 17 yeah Jay Z at 28 I see what

he's doing no you see what no no no no what happened was he started one through

four is fine and then it goes into alphabetical order from there on out so I'm not quite sure how they figured

that out it goes pock big ll run DMC and then after that it's all alphabet okay I'll shoot him a little bell no my boyo

at five I think I'll just go alphabetical possible dj khaled on his

Oh hip-hop artists let's see would he be okay about that oh yeah but I'm talking about his arm beatless he got wide left

hand not Lauryn Hill his RB list is

number ones Michael Jackson number two is Prince number three Stevie Wonder number four Teddy Pendergrass number

five Luther Vandross six Charlie Wilson seven Jeffrey Osborne eight Smokey Robinson nine David Ruffin ten out green

at the now just go he goes Al Jarreau al Wilson Alexander O'Neal Anthony Hamilton a Vaughn see that's Anthony Hamilton

Avant and then babyface this is also an alphabetical order Joe it starts at number 10 in alphabetical

order he's got the first time alphabetical

order should not be in front of it all right I see one man they got mad Johnson

Elliot all right come on come on more why do women she tell us you never know

what you hear with the context just said when women cheat a cheat wish and their wars with more due date she would have

got if they know or is it a random guy that's all I mean Joe's answer was it was crazy but whatever nah I got his

answer uh what was crazy about that because you said when women leave you

they leave you for God that they don't know yeah and I don't see how that makes any sense and when they cheat their

cheating with the guy that they know yeah but I got that part but why don't

know how is a woman's gonna leave you for a [ __ ] she does not know at all cuz

women's wear they know and they don't they swear they know him

they think they know women live for that infatuation stage that's sick leave your

man that you've been with for two years for something you just met I want to go I want to come on in one day I just read

my court documents no please God man I'm not no I'm not okay I'm just telling you

what have you wanted to do why no I don't want to eat it and be let out standing after we're all that's gonna be

like the button up behind music just me the soundtrack why he's reading that [ __ ] why you don't think the chick let

you leave you don't know I'm not saying she wouldn't I'm just saying that's crazy you don't know him you don't even know

what you leaving me fool she didn't know me relax when we got together yeah come

on more so you say we should go with you what she didn't necessarily know me she

I think it takes a couple years to know someone though I agree I mean you learn more about a person but

I mean you don't leave the person you know for the person you don't know I don't think that makes any sense that's

air get more wood pow you don't even know what you're leaving me for who's

your horrible me I finally found out who you were that's crazy but at least you

know me like you don't know he might be worse than me you know that's what got him that's what we always say to them

well that's crazy judging by some of the stories Morel was telling me out in LA he got his long way

to go which means those stories with stories about Sally they was leaving leaving though for you know we were

talking about we was talking about what [ __ ] do when they get in today Sweetback like gotta win him over back

like damn I [ __ ] up so let me let me let me seek forgiveness back and some of

those things in your bag who's in my bag good morning yeah yes my

[ __ ] moyen here till 4:00 p.m.

yeah and that now it's right no 9 a.m. good morning takes a probably real big

deal to more you probably gotta set an alarm from a good morning thick ice news

at least ten times what else is in your of forgiveness bag a joy what a joy for

sure you got a spark you got a smoke and talk about it you also check this out

yeah I was trippin I'm sorry come over

let's smoke this chills talk about it that's it the party you'll smoke with me yeah yeah what's the cuz y'all make it

watch it sail travel mine is horrible listen yeah we'll see you apology nothing nothing no I try to change my

ways I try to prove that I'm sorry rather than say mmm you a man of action a man will do is leave extra bands that

do say for like yeah yeah you got 15 at the door don't worry about it you plus

50 no worry about it so that's 15 yeah you're Rory just knock off all the city you know what no I'm not going off come

on you know boom yeah yeah I didn't go to Detroit yeah I don't know if you guys notice great city to pick did not go to

Rory yeah wait I thought I would know just from what I've heard defense now listen

I told Rory in LA Rory and sayvon but I'm throwing both of them a party bit

way well that could be misconstrued by then unconstraint

I'm just telling you that it couldn't move it's not he's gonna construe it by action yeah not be around the blade of

action and not be around say boy and not go to Michigan yeah yeah I got Detroit

bug though I'll show them why y'all I've recorded a song to

Detroit so you know hella bitchin man strip club in Detroit and that's when you really find out about you so hated

every minute of being Detroit he was on that conference call going hand whenever someone coming back I will not I will

pay for quad myself Joe was not going back to Detroit the record that wasn't

happening not going back to Detroit no I

thought we should I thought we should share like yeah I bet you did who was

from New York okay one us is from LA and it's expensive to record our beer mm-hmm

yeah middle came in me in the middle get me in the middle Detroit dammit me in the middle to state other country me and

Jo Ellen here just play this here both Vegas it here means are important listen

enough about that no could you try to God give me [ __ ] homie to join our [ __ ] Detroit you really learned about yourself in Detroit strip clubs like

especially on an off night yeah take it you learn how much integrity you have

and denied you learn how much integrity you have see I wish we was real we call

company and talk about that one Detroit chick that we had more things he can

Detroit sick in the space look up parks really

sit down hey you and Rory sit down at all real [ __ ] come so tell us about

these Detroit what's in my forgiveness

bag yo yo this [ __ ] did speak to Terry

for two months I came to read about

fatigue you haven't seen too much yeah that's Wang how you pop up with a

ring like I do you think by the way that is you have male friends tell their

other male friends that their proposal we was in Sin City she's got this ring who's it's true Chloe told me oh god

trying to tell us the future see see he was trying to look what we

was at in Sin City ants all the right so Miami proposed see I was like no cuz I

couldn't believe back but I believe you

not now believe that so either propose that give her a light 160 bars yeah some

light ok behold maybe a whole mixtape your boy toxic toxic bars yo all of us

is our med toxic now [ __ ] we're mad toxic no all of the OLS is are mad toxic

now that I look back at oh you think they were crew listen man toxic things can be pretty

entertaining absolutely

you death yeah wait um

trying to get back to our criteria list over there but uh I don't think I give

my just do when it comes to relationship talking bars either by the way top of

that oh oh let me tell you let me let me round them food for you guys well really for me [ __ ] you all that's out three

episode it's top three that no it's number one it's number one which one top

three oh you know the vibes they'll make me bring the vibes back room advised I

don't know you announced that now wait so Nikki get the numbers she going gone going to numbers rant when we get back

that episode mmm why was she nor numbers never mind it was a Nikki you're not gonna charge joke

but how many turnovers we got give me

your bag Joe that she apology bag to a record apology bag you don't think

there's any truth to uh to what Nikki said about I only talked bad about rappers that I think I can rap better

than but you think you could rap but he never he only talked about round no what did she say she saying she said you talk

so much [ __ ] because yeah that's what you say because you feel like I've never heard you talk [ __ ] about nas with Jay so yeah she's right well according to

this podcast nas well that's true I think we hating us cuz we love Jay so we

gotta give him a nas appreciation of apologize I've only played nine nas sleepers or the Friday podcasts you're

worried worried I need to know all the artists that were e stands for yeah it's played a lot of knowledge sleepers have

parks have still I feel like yeah at least Twitter I'm just looking for one

particular let me see that nigga's nice man look ya'll bad y'all be man when I'm

nice yeah hey and don't feel sad when I was

your doing we got your number one episode is that you playing your music yeah we got to sit and listen to it yeah

finally shot you finally charted if it ain't broke don't break it that counts as a stream finally charted

well I hear you over that does this count as a stream no it should it should

I'm not saying [ __ ] now I'm asking that they know they have a lot to fix I have

a lot to forget oh just still trying to figure it out more it should though I

was looking for a part but should I play my Ron Brown set right now for you you

have one seriously I'm interested to see you play around browse it I would like

to hear this you got no brown brown your cerrado tell the people while we finish well because I feel like I've but and

parks and they heard it we go yeah we talked about it we feel like ether is like a terrible beat one of the most

horrible beats and one of the most legendary moments in hip-hop history yeah that's a fair assessment and on

you're saying that but bran has some [ __ ] you can play a whole set so I said I would like deer killed you eat there

boy you may ether that's what that means yes farts oh I just wanted to say that

this is not helping our New York by it's our jury yeah well don't join that dance

[ __ ] you remember this I'll remember this sure you didn't you and dance in the club when it's parking oh you didn't

sing with it you definitely had your shirt showing you boat sucks right in I know the dead nastiness holy drop the

beat come on hey hey why you're

discharged this one get night you want it like if you want to give you I can see it this is better than to eat the beet

slightly parks that's better than eat the beet hey hey hey

um and he ain't even ain't even put like French yourself some eye on it if you

play bonnets and call it a day or jumping out the window what I was coming up to had to end with jumping on me and

I see you say my BAE but more just come on airplane it's Norlin under doubt more of course they were exactly so what do

you tell my you can't play a Ron Brown fit and more just hating because he never got a rent money that's two songs

[Laughter] I'm just glad that the producer tag game

has come so far he wasn't feeling either boy LeBron put out a track tomorrow that

same tag will be right there

[Music]

[Music] popping record it was wait time out no

good this is my ever when they used to put this in all the backgrounds they

sneak them in now sometimes turn a record of the day Oh a verse out mired a record given a snuck in a girl it was

quick but it was hard I'm Teddy's off mom give us your deep dive on what we're on

bro yes so you got some records you got a few records for sure hey you came

front on round brush he definitely has a few records I just hate thee to beat I hate that [ __ ] I was sure he doesn't record song um Dave Chappelle Dave

Chappelle is doing a new Netflix new Netflix uh stand up is his Nana nothing

so yeah well I mean there wasn't too much context it says comedy event so no thanks together video okay I saw a video

of him walking in the desert I'm talking about the end it's a Dave Chappelle comedy event August 26th yes

sounds like stand-up to me I don't want to be a stand-up yeah August 26 is a Monday I'm watching it

absolutely yeah Morgan Freeman narrating not do it that was dope always good to

hear from more guy should have a nickname no he doesn't have a nickname but he should what would his nickname be

God morgue or God I'll take God - uh well I want to

know cuz he uh the contract that they initially saw and that was before all that [ __ ] ton of money he fulfilled that

right stop counting people's money yeah it's a little gossip you don't you think

talking about the amount of specialist that was in the deal that was put out to the public oh I believe it was three then he

fulfilled their case hopeless doesn't mean that he's gonna disappear again for another decade I thought that was gonna

happen after this whole 2017 when he put out four I was like well we'll never hear his stand out again right but but

it it looks like he fulfilled that contract plus another one I don't know how they're counting those those two together that's four total

either way more Dave Chappelle content is great more yeah not frowned upon we're I'm here for it more Dave I'm

going to see it yeah I gotta see the other two yeah I gotta find all this

mystery specials out on Netflix know they're all together okay um did you

hear all that Epstein's Epstein's uh bodyguard is talking no but I did see that they found

like broken neck bones in his esophagus that indicate strangulation although

they don't know for sure okay hunger so well yeah that could still happen oh they said it's more indicative of a

being strangled to have it here Epstein autopsy reportedly shows broken neck bones more consistent with homicide and

suicide well shocker the autopsy conducted in the wake of

Geoffrey Epstein's death by apparent suicide shows the financière suffered

multiple bricks and his neck bones which while possible during instances of suicidal hanging The Washington Post

reports is more commonly found in homicide victims of strangulation the Epstein our time autopsy is not yet

been made public but the post reporting based on multiple sources familiar with the results shows that the circumstances

surrounding epsteen epsteen s death while awaiting trial on sex trafficking charges remain deeply shrouded in

mystery even if they find out it was a homicide it's no one's gonna know you

know I'm saying someone's just gonna take the rap for and I'm gonna make somebody that they had nothing to do with it take the rap for it or that no

well but what do you all believe Oh funny for sure there's something some

funny business yeah he had to go he was he was great at I felt like he was greater bring down a lot of it or mention a lot of powerful

names yeah and they couldn't have that yeah I was reading up on him he had the name

name yeah he was he was the plug yeah I'm bringing him in he had the blacklist yeah yep sick [ __ ]

and you never find out no still waiting on a Sondra Blanchett to come out did

anybody watch the heart the meat dog I didn't see a chance it's good I heard it's real good yeah we talked

about watching the movies in LA yeah you say you had Netflix on your phone didn't actually see it though Netflix on the

phone thing I gotta tell you man that's you kind of changed my life a little bit this is not this is not an ad yeah

Netflix on the phone this might be my first LA trip I didn't leave the room I ain't hit crazy girls

Sam's well still open well Sam's are

still open still hope Sam's is 100% is not closing saying though Sam is a staple yeah that's what that other one I

listen Netflix on the phone to move thank you more yeah thank thank you for putting me on to that yes though I knew

about it but I never downloaded until mall said it was the [ __ ] yeah oh he needed him off there he did the most to

him I assume they would it would lag unless you had the greatest Wi-Fi ever be on regular this should be fine wall

stay at pink man that's a good question no it's still red there's a co-op a print

no I can't ask you you know it's not

coal pink orange did y'all say how do I know what your stamp is called junk did y'all see oh [ __ ] I ain't a shower early

when we was talking about odd Nick do y'all put anything and I'm not starting anything Carter [ __ ] I'm asking a regular question mm-hmm after I a nice

done after our interview cardi tweeted all of these stats about not being on a

list but her album selling in blah blah blah blah blah yeah she were flat yeah

it sounds like reply didn't see the tweets or response yeah we know it's a response not it rap stats rap stats are

so weird really weird and they're getting weirder yeah I don't think

that's a good way to even gauge war between rappers rap stats yeah but they

stopped letting it be words yeah so how do you do it

like everything my analytics Nikki said Nikki said I'm top 10 dead or alive

male or female right and in Shana from Philly who I saw that who I [ __ ] super

super super respect her pen game but it's been a while of course hmm shut up from Philly or Chicago Chicago Chicago

y'all wait who am I thinking about fulfilling oh [ __ ] that's [ __ ] up I'm getting her confused with all that

Philly chick is nice man is gonna bother me younger older she's older now I'm sure I'm a dear now Bahama D came

after her dammit that's gonna bother me the fans are gonna tell me exactly don't like the suit obviously not he's not

talking about Eve guys yeah not Eve mom but yes Shauna who can rap I really respect her pen huh

I said she ass on the say about that [ __ ] and all the barbs responded but

with rap stats because what does Nikki look like responding to Shana but Shawn

and I was down with DJ yeah that's buddy guy's daughter to miss Christmas mmm the girl I'm talking about

had a single out in everything she was killing no name was like miss something

[Music] it was a nice nice nice nice

she was nice okay okay filly J was mad her to the filly list yeah she's good

night Billy half of [ __ ] me silly can rap really yeah that was the thing who I

hurt yeah where she killed that [ __ ] and filly is your own dude every way we're one yeah well stop Jersey listen once you

pass exit eight on the Turnpike wait Phil you got their [ __ ] once they start

getting like five miles between exits yeah that's different tenants sure

everything but now I can't be mad at Cardiff you're saying that cuz Carter came into rapid and said hey I'm just here to make a lot of money and I'm

never mad at that this old I mean I think everyone in music wants to make a lot of money I don't she's made it kind

of clear that that was us are really only go go again there's plenty of people that do it for if drew Mozart yeah yeah I think Cartier there's a lot

of people to do it for happy I'm not saying that people don't do it for the art but people definitely do it for the money where's common on your list I don't know

twenty-seven common would be that low maybe higher that low twenty-seven is

really good way seven low alright we're confusing what low and high is here I'm saying low towards number one yeah oh

god I gotta go yeah he might be he might be higher than that lower whatever he might be closer to closing number one

yes oh wow okay he's got to classical never mad at common a bunch I wasn't

really good albums when she was on the classic resurrection in be and I think

both those are class and a couple of the other one that came out that Kanye did around be if I was called off my head no

you look relaxed takes like would've chocolate that was also to me a classic oh it's not that

who's the best rapper turned actor was hello I'm trying to get us all for where

common is he's a rapper turned actor he isn't done they need tell well no I

think Will Smith is LL Cool J park yeah but it's pop this POC better

than L rapping yes POC is one beat on my list I'm not

saying like all the sliders obviously POC would be wow I would say obviously ll is probably underrated to some degree

but rapping rapping do you think he's better than Ella oh no POC is not on that list for me on that list

yeah but I have to put them to of course because of what he did and yeah yeah I'll think about that in LA like that's

still into it I would like to try to figure out how many albums came out since Makaveli that are better than Makaveli I would love to do that one day

the albums that came out after Machiavelli Makaveli and life after death I'd like to do both of those not a

ton I don't think it's a whole bunch how many rap haven't that came up a bad record gorgeous on the same plane at

least same same play and what was that 90 same key not 97 definitely 97 we can

look these things up guys I built him you don't have to look it up I'll guarantee you is that easy all right go life after death and Mecca Mele say

mirrors would say for him I don't think it's gonna be a came out 96 Makaveli

yeah November 5th I don't think it's

gonna be a whole lot of them I'll tell you that whole lot as in you I don't think you'll get to 25 finding forever

was that common Elam yeah find it forever and the other one around the time is a resurrection with the Lauryn

Hill song was a great album - yeah you're in like he's electronic album I did I was one of the few people that liked that out that a universal mind

control I thought was dope although the remix that Pharrell did I forgot what

that [ __ ] [ __ ] was called mouth goddamn it had a Macy Gray and I think there's a dope come close where's the

mantras a dope song who's off that oh yeah there's a couple good songs in that Laurie can you stop saying Universal market electronic when you just asked

about saying you're talking about electric circus he had a couple uh not a wack you wants to whack one hold up man

I know [ __ ] wack you're talking about I like it though I know you told what this

album though cuz I got killed when I was like yo is any1 like before internet

share was two of them that were both like really too weird nah I was on the Internet that was after the body I remember going into my college

cafeteria a new comment albums dope right and just getting a yo - [ __ ]

college kids that is why because they get this attachment to certain music that came out then you just in the dorm

never give us some of the dope College stories like playing universal mom

that's why they kick them out loud get

them the [ __ ] out in like use blast in that [ __ ] every night to get Rory he was

a song was hard - can you turn this

[ __ ] off this song wasn't bad though this song was hard was about there was a cup of good sauce but why didn't think

that they could go to Pharrell for the extra weird record and it's gonna be cool it usually works it works sometimes yeah

that's why sometimes it don't know sob did know but that's for the whole Neptunes album word there was just them

then they have like the rock band playing on it that she was a great album it was weird aside in any group it'll

work yeah yeah agree fair shot a change dad would you don't get his flow check this dam

came out the wagging Chad wants his fellow Kanye shits Kanye is there next

time during this one right no this is Neptune's I went to make some movies

after this one Betty does miss the DJ oh

he's listed as an exec exec producer oh

great great grandfather deal they had a run thank you a lot of good albums on

that good imprint I'm just looking at comments of saag Rafi outside of that one we can say that one but dreamer believer was great on

good music yeah that was one no I did not he did right yeah oh yeah will you

get the comment and the ron brown's from

downtown do you hear about of Yaqui

about our tryna the question i had a head off of our comments and I [ __ ]

forgot but no there's Makaveli thing that we offer that I don't care about that anymore that common question took

me somewhere more moment for you but whatever y'all care about our Empire shooting we're Jesse got beat up at they

got me that's great great job it's not

like say yo listen [ __ ] yo in which I'll be talking about like say this will be

filming that [ __ ] big recording that [ __ ] no I think is corny that still

works perfect yeah if your corner you're allowed to do corny [ __ ] I just want to see the episode for that scene like wait

when they play that scene I'm not a subway placement I'm not gonna see the whole season I just want to know when

they show that when they filmed a yeah [ __ ] get beat up in that scene is like

I a while no wallet you gotta have a subway subway with like just like a

Quiznos yeah same [ __ ] I'm down that's

disrespectful Blimpie's I'll watch though all right so y'all cure not care

I'm gonna watch I like it like the move I'm pretty far behind an empire I'm

gonna know one good lines even in its the hello I've never seen one episode of him first

season was intriguing but then it yeah it lost me here I think TV's having the same problem

that music is having us so uh I saw a clip with Rap City saying it's something like every time a new song come that's

like 5,000 new songs at a time they drop I mean that movies but TV shows like TV

show has got to do a lot to sustain the audience yeah I want so many good shows out right now once they once Jesse

couldn't figure out if he was gay or not with Alicia Keys I I was done with that show right now we can't figure out the

guy you're not he was like 35 and petted mad gay relational if that AC crane was confused

grabbing rebounds we do man [ __ ] on you

talk to them what do you do man you got it tell me where AC green disease and they follow that home like you whenever

you just go right at a secret what I guess a lot the people I could say no but no but you go at a seato cuz he well

I go at him because as a youth hmm when I first heard that when I was watching

the game and I didn't know what y'all what they would say it ends they Annette this is someone you became an adult

green is he is he good I don't know I don't know he was a virgin he posted up

a lot with no post game

that was bad that wasn't as bad Posten

up yeah not post without a post up game yeah you can't just have your back to the basket all night demanding the ball

in the post I'm waving him off why do we

sit on yeah but now you want to bring up his bat fight he was averaging 30 no he

wasn't nine point six averaged seven

rebounds thing but on a team that ain't bad Wayman Tisdale do all the hard work

rest in peace I ain't talking to nobody and Wayman said night on the Lakers more

when everybody be on the Lakers so they don't change my sentence saying he

didn't have to do much with that [ __ ] monster team there uh we enter ye save

it all well he was found guilty yeah but he just got like I said probation some

whatever I think he has to pay was a lot it was like twenty great we know money was that's all it was about and these

ones know that they can be paid they wanted fifteen grand and he gave him like fifteen on it oh they have to split

that between three of them wait what good that's like she already tried to

sue me with that the dog bitter and she won at fifteen grand yeah I know hey good luck with that dog you gotta relax

well first of all damn Brooklyn Suze I should give it all didn't bite anyone

that's first of all now that I have a number here Brooklyn got me once I was still got a scar yeah

your book nice to be tripping a lot calm now yeah it's fine he's calm what else do we have what else do we

have uh you care about this wailing Drake records coming out tonight whose

record is this way sir swilley's yeah I was interested on a beach no I'm gonna go down no vibrations

I was interested in that record not that record but I saw him tees I saw him

cheese a record called sex to see and I'm interested to hear yeah I have high

expectations for all Swilley music yeah they put out a good material especially

a lead Rick records ooh yeah up how long you think his run will be um I think

he's telling setting up to have a Longworth Suellen yeah yeah you say dolo

or race for me included no no no it's a lot we really heard too much about race

rumor and then after that there was a

whole big commotion about slim Jimmy separating himself and did he apologize but that was after five videos and it's

Whateley never really say about it they just weird together like they hang out a lot I know I'm just saying that this was

a thing at one point and we haven't heard a race rumored song since then as well van and now we're getting more sway

Lee music mmm could have been the plan to regardless or maybe that whole thing maybe maybe we get some Jimmy music

someone I'm just saying what is happening now but to answer your question what I think suede he's gonna be Ralph a little while yeah he's gonna

I think he's using enough sound what is a little while with the life expectancy of rap today what is a little while well

he's not right when you say a little I think he's surpassed the grammar they're usually the life he's not a rapper

well what is he uh easy to make man Barbie list we do we do we get throw

fastest yeah um what is he he's not right is it could it be class classified

as hip-hop I think on that that first album they was rapper was jungkook I

think they've got more melodic but they were rapping on that first one young thug is hip-hop si rapper oh he's a trapper it's a male

is Aubrey doing a lot as far as what features and so yeah he's feel it feels

like he's been on everything almost he does this every year I was gonna say oh this isn't added this is not a character

summertime run if he don't have a project out you he's still in your ear yeah he makes sure of that he's been

doing that for the hawk cam remember how long he's gonna be on the hottest racket he's gonna be an artist record you're

right I don't know why it feels different to me right now maybe because of the Chris Brown reconciliation maybe that was bigger the

video like he normally don't doing videos with everybody but that was a moment that was a moment I think this is

gonna be a moment uh sure I don't think it as far as press and news and

everything of them together - yeah that's not uncommon but we me gave Ross

- money in the grave is his record gold roses there's a trade ya ain't givin to

this one is his record one is Ross's record money on the grave is durricks record yes and that was in that

championship two back-to-back Shakur how

is that not a drink record no it is a Drake record but that's not the same favor I call you to jump on my Lucy Lucy

I'm putting out and then I'm jumping on your album even though I'm putting the Lucy out immediately bad just know just

go ahead and record that I don't normally go like that they just need a whole project together

that's what they need to do [ __ ] that - II think they said Ross is projected to

do 80 oh yeah a salad that's really good yeah that's great coley [ __ ] well go for

a good album so we were off it worked yeah I just wish I would have heard big

yeah hoses I'll be honest with you I think we were talking off mic before the Nicki episode I have Ross at maybe 55

what about my guess so that I'm far what I thought I'm wrong about a lot of [ __ ] yes I cannot believe cuz there's no real

way to gauge it anymore I can't believe that that wolly record is not charted which one this one show it's not

charting really you'd run with Jeremiah yeah I haven't looked at the charts [ __ ]

that's a really good record I don't look at the charts either but while I would have said something I don't think that

it's charting today that's now crack that's not saying that it won't write but that's ridiculous to me

something is wrong actually that brings

me to a [ __ ] article that I read from none other than Spotify his very own call cherry got out to call good guy

friend to show of course where he basically alludes to songs structured

with the R&B hook song by the girl

singer just being a dated style of record or as far as a hit anyway in 2019

there's no longer a wide he says this in 2019 there's no longer a widely accepted obvious pathway to a hit single the

standard formula we've all grown used to the arm be friendly rap song package to reach mass appeal is nearly absent from

the Hot 100 at the moment for roughly two decades the fast track to a mainstream rap hit was to adopt a proven

recipe that made the Jon were more digestible on a large scale take a familiar 70's or 80's funk soul or pop

sample flip it into a summer ready soundscape insert two to three verses at an R&B hook preferably by recognizable

singer and you have a radio friendly and commercially viable single he goes on to

make a whole bunch examples but he basically says that that is dead it's

changed slightly now they do it with rap samples Drake Lauryn Hill my type Petey

Pablo there's a million things were now instead of sampling no yes be flow she

right there parks I do think what he's saying though with that traditional thing that killed in the mm of the

nineties the rap here's such a that single well did you know mm was get a

little emo white chick on the course that was you know was coming next is

just like I've been saying no more singles put your [ __ ] project together and put it out let the people

determine you say that but there's an entire genre within hip-hop that is

artists that are just single artists they're not album artist at all like I think a lot of the younger kids only

really put out singles like we didn't get a easy album for man long get about ten singles and Atlantic was like no

just keep putting out singles [ __ ] album this is what's working for you I think the more like artists artists

people that really want to make b-sides and or records and put them on one album

you don't but I'm I thing is you can't whose whose determine and all of them

don't even want to make album and elect what an SS doesn't that's different I'm

tomorrow album artists listen now you don't need a single anymore but let the people determine which records they like

to help stream it however many times like who's the last can you name five

album artists right now to sell more than two hundred we won first week no

probably the Cole Kendrick Drake actually can you know live album artist

right now there's three those yeah actually named seven I think Sean is our

most I mean you could definitely name seven now Marty yeah they were Rihanna

rap over just rat yeah of course I'm not talk about mainstream obviously I think

you Travis Scott Travis Travis yes Drake yes J Cole Cole yes Kendrick yes that's

for Ross row no he said that will sell 200 first week that's what I say sorry

but I'm at James did his name once let's bless his name anywhere I'm counting Ross um let's just try to name the album artists I think chains

Elmore's Oh chains to change who's sure to change um you guys might think I'm

[ __ ] nuts but I can make a case cardi B you're now calling you album artist with one out you know just number one

out I'm not I'm not calling him nut I see his point no it's if her success her step-over

success came from how that specific album and each record on there was damn near charted on number one like you're

an album artist and you're go now is I think press is setting up before some type of a now like I think hers our

cycles are with albums not with just a bunch of singles so I think you could say cardi B is album artist I'm not

gonna say that with one album so on that's it I'm at six which we named

Eminem you think future is yeah sure

yeah Eminem M for sure is album or che

TI is album RJ he's not rapping though Kanye yeah oh wait we got out of the

whole thing of selling over 200 ohm eat

me Cassandra personality yeah but there's not a lot of guys that are doing over 200 pushes out martes yeah well he

said made sure yeah okay sure yeah cuz I would have said worse yes but my point

is this is not so many there's not so many album artist if 30 seconds counts

to a stream all these [ __ ] are trying to find loopholes in the system they putting out two packs they putting out

90 second songs they putting out eight song projects like you saying the single

was gonna die I think at some point out the album is gonna die dubs and bigger danger in the single yeah that's what I

think he piece i person 100 percent yes a lot in shorter the album to eat peas

that's fact the album b3 yes well it's because people's attention span is so

short now no it's cuz the artists hanging paid a long way

so the fact that there's so much music like I don't want to listen to an hour and a half of one artist because I would

rather listen to three 30-minute albums for lunch people and that's just like my TV analogy if I get to episode 8 and the

season and you start no tail off I'm going in my other show yeah attention

span I'll even say a lot of those a lot of these shows that are that are our episodes I have to be really particular

now I'm reading exactly description show me a trailer I need a cosign from someone I trust like dedicating to just try to get into

a show takes three to four hours you don't have room for error yeah in entertainment I kind of efficacy

I need a multiple and socially damn they're getting rid of room for error

yeah that's deep I mean when things are so accessible yeah analytics are so

readily available it's very easy to tell and and I also say with everyone on

earth having a platform to give their opinion things get killed off pretty

[ __ ] quickly the way they didn't before yeah although things getting killed off

on Twitter or not the same as things getting killed off in real life that's something that's a really yeah and I've

said on here that the world is much bigger than your timeline but at the same time I've seen it work I've seen

memes get artists the [ __ ] out of here and in some cases it's happened yeah I

don't think it's the normal look enough said it can't grow into more of a norm but we're all over to play I remember

what we talked about we were talking about singles and our bead the formula

bar and B that's what started the conversation ah that's what started I can't believe that that record is not

charting that's what started the conversation yeah that's crazy I like that record a lot and I think

while eight no I love that we're gonna think while a supposed to drop soon yes he announced tour dates and that is

exactly how my career went awry that moment right there when you find out

that a label is about to drop your album mm-hmm under just some

other circumstances like yeah uh everybody got cursed out the whole

building got cursed out from me I was young and mature and emotional no you're not putting my album out and we don't

have a song on a radio we have a song charting I don't have product placement the videos trash well nobody knows [ __ ]

about [ __ ] and you just want to put my album out for what right why right but I

mean it would depend on what wall a project we're getting if we're getting a wallet while a is album artist I agree 100%

I agree he makes really good albums he also makes really good singles so I'm of

the I'm I but I don't need to hear two album I know I'm gonna sound and this is not add I don't work for that label or

wallet well labels and this isn't specific about wale but to your point of

them just wanting to push it out labels get cold feet really easily if something doesn't work the first time they'll put

your [ __ ] out just so they can drop you let's just let's get this [ __ ] we're gonna lose too much money I know it's

not working that's why I'm putting it out so I can get the [ __ ] away from you yeah that's fair and I don't think

that's the case here while is I think just I think they thought that this at this record would just that's weird at

that record isn't shortened so it's a very very friendly billboard record its

what's it's a uh you man's point Karl Karl that that's he's right that

structure is a bit dated I don't think Wally's record is dated that structure is just dated that that

record as much as I love Wally and I like that song it's a safe record you know I'm saying like I don't think that

safe is as successful as far as charts radio play as far as like well that is

an old formula yeah yeah but in Wally's defense everyone's kind of killed him

for being experimental with certain things saying he'll go back to your bad formula you know the [ __ ] that charted

was another one that he had that was like that there was the bad [ __ ] with a rush shoot lotus flower bomb like those

types of records while a his one with so I can see him going well let me go

this formula is that's dated or be hooked harmony hook verse RB hook Lauren B says fine sign that day that I love it

I love David meek dangerous that's that's dated they call one did not the

same formula it is it is how successful is that song I'm sure successful yeah yeah I mean

that [ __ ] still please look after little while a record come on no good not like a month that could be a slow burn that

record it could take a minute and I see while I actually working it so maybe

give it a second that's what I'm saying you just don't tell me you giving it a second if you put in an album out in

September did he say that I just saw the tour I just saw this or well so I

started September so you'd imagine that album I'll come out before that damn and

the whole game is like getting like reversed I'm Emily used to tour before to album I mean um when you get me used

the tour well you dropped the promo run yeah the kind of touch the people peaked

at number twelve what people number twelve dangerous that's high that's hot that's a record

yeah that's a great record my only point is so on some artists to do that is that

style dated or do we just pick and choose who we want it from it senses only spent two weeks on the chart though

which is interesting that's weird to peak that high and always been to eases

anytime I get a new Bert or a cab and they're listening to the radio that fast that song is [ __ ] everytime dangerous

is coming on at the pool party or until it's coming on into pool party as it should the jungle album deadness coming

on at the pool party what else is coming with a pool boy it's gonna be some joints did you just know I'm responsible for don't play your Tupac set I would

love the two bucks and so would wall yeah I would what and so what more love a to box it yeah give me two three Tupac

songs and I'm done after that no you gotta give me something else it I think

that I think you could play and you can do more than that if I don't get old song I'll do that cuz I you can write

you can run through some power just play howdy

yeah anyway all right we all over money

be money be hey yo what's up love how you doing well I've been hanging slang and trying to do my thing oh you thought

that was your homegirl you went to school with that's cool but did she tell you you wasn't coming outside no you

substance you spaghetti sandwich I wasn't Joey spaghetti sandwich is

looking out the window that's exactly what I was doing no no I was out I did buy table know everybody

had that out anybody had to t-shirt what was the name of that BAM hot sex package

some dumb [ __ ] this new underground was freaky I was part of fun rap like how

they be [ __ ] on the junkies now fun rat sex wasn't it like fake [ __ ]

blow-up dolls on stage and [ __ ] though that's hard to take it was they was on some [ __ ] yeah thank you trying to get

away for the sons of the P that wasn't the one but then that sex packets album

that was the serious [ __ ] Elmas art you

know what's funny for me to be such a lyrical miracle type of guy who loves all his [ __ ] all that hard lyric what

comes after available spiritual spiritual always comes out there like in

my childhood I liked a lot of the the gimmicky guys course when your kid that's what you like yeah it was fun right kidding play

yeah kitten play was fun rap Will Smith Fresh Prince what's on man that's a producer now polka-dots

kwame call me Dan don't tell me Kwame was fun ramp he was I thought he was

killing but everyone's sad oh yeah yeah everyone was killers when I was a kid I

missed the fun yep getting a qualm a sleeper whoo that's it

I'm doing it Kwame sleep live that was my [ __ ] they was teasing him for the polka-dots and I was confused that she

was flyy I didn't know I would later on but commander the worst dress rappers and pop that was the foundation and I

don't really think that's true either you go dick and that [ __ ] be looking but that's just like I know I know I

know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know we we went to Brooklyn and

mall couldn't be more in tune with what was happening on the stage come on even a major show think of a [ __ ] I was

dressed just like that how the dress better than that tell me I wasn't

dressed better than J Cole when he was on in Brooklyn you weren't you weren't all y'all a [ __ ] dick rods but we'd learn that already if you weren't hey we

already know it I'll show me what you was just about it's fine we're not going to his radio station that much anyway uh

we were yeah we were yet we'll yet to

sleep no I do want to I do want to know Carl Carl later on in that article went on to say that to decline in that

formula working he attributes to the decline in arm b1 and the decline in

radio once dreaming got popping he said that formula just kind of went out the

window a little bit has there been a decline with RB yes from Sam Cooke when

you want to start well Marvin I'm saying

somebody say as far as popularity I think there's been a new spark in the new R&B generation I think that ice and

is not the number one label gun we tell about the art of it okay talking I was

asking I think that's what you meant Oh underground or bees been great for

the past that's what I'm getting it was he talking about the actual making of the music or I don't know popular I

meant just more popular like says I don't think it's pop I could consider her in the popular area of R&B oh yeah

she's not she's just popular no I meant why I meant literally popular let me read it in front of I took him to me I

took him to me the talent level okay because I think R&B isn't probably wanted its bigger spaces in the past ten

years the decline of the formula also seems to be transpiring during a loss in popularity for R&B that's what I was

asking and the blurring of the genre lines that make hip-hop and R&B at times hardly distinguishable from one another

today with rappers as the primary artists are still difficult to define because of their rampant use of melody

the aforementioned London and panini and save 50 cents 21 questions shear the

same lineage but they feel like distant relatives whereas the idea of a radio song was pretty specific in the 90s and

2000's so much so that caressed one teamed up with uh RM to take some shots

at the concept back in 91 oh the concept of a streaming friendly song is much broader trap is the sound

de jour but the common threads and patterns between songs are difficult to pinpoint today hence the range of

subject matter from this year's biggest rap songs how can we have Annette Carl on our podcast that was extreme oh it's

extremely well thought out and made mad [ __ ] sense we're stupid let's call

him he'll be a good guess where's the thing with jiggy thingamajiggy was that

our beer was that hip-hop we'll never know Larry lines how do I do

this how do I make it come through the thing about jiggy hold on buddy nuts I

don't know how to make this man yell all right this is Joe Budden calling from the Joe

Budden podcast Lord how are you doing I am excellent we're talking to the one

and only car cherry now the public doesn't really know that name so they

don't know that they should give a [ __ ] about you but fine well they're doing this for the public I just read your article about the melodic songs no

longer being relevant as singles or the standard song structure for singles yep

even though I read it tell me more do you believe that you said what you

know I do i do I think if you look at the last few years on all the songs

almost of the most popular songs has been trap centric like think about both

at yellow think about bad and boozy think about black beetle is that none of them that's not really you it's not fair

call you don't think it's fair trap trap has been big since trap was introduced

right trap is a formula as well sure but

that was specific to the formula we have known for years the one with the rats in

the army hooks that's what I was referring to not trap specifically those

are the ones that the labels has been you know suggesting is the faster path

to a hit for years true you don't agree no that is true yeah I just

you also said in the article that this theory does not apply to the heavy

hitters yeah I think they're g-code I think it doesn't matter what they put out there just reacts like if so you saw

like that part where I mentioned Cole right and how he just moved away from the formula

if Cole was to come out tomorrow with a single with our abuser that [ __ ] will be out of here cuz these

guys is so massive by now what do you say about a record like Meek Mill

dangerous well good point

[ __ ] pretty big now yeah no he's

absolutely upper echelon he's not kidding I think he's a notch under cold Kendrick and Drake respectfully what no he's not

quite like that yeah he's not he's not yeah you're not quite there but but

that's a good point meets you be able to pull it off it is trying it's just not going all the way like all the

exceptions that I name have a certain level celebrity cardis another one that I name she's huge

so we're talking about Kendrick great cardi and colder and he wants to and

listen I brought this conversation up on my podcast because I'll be honest with you I'm super confused about why Lee's

record not doing what I honestly none yo you know I don't understand it okay so

so you know what it is because [ __ ] is transition from radio to streaming all those songs like the the

meek song didn't stream well I tried to playlist it personally it didn't do well doesn't react I think that audience just

likes the trap sheet its while a is sticking to a radio format me and him were talking about that [ __ ] I literally

started writing to think piece cuz I was texting back and forth well while a about one chill and I told them I have a

theory I need to share with me because black bunny all the songs that name like

the the right here record with [ __ ] Eric Bella's it actually was crazy to me but it's not

you put it on playlist it does okay it's not for kids it gets the kid it and

that's another thing maybe the kids don't give a [ __ ] about that format yeah we grew up on them maybe yes when we were getting there Mike Lee's Wally is

an older artist at this point he's been active since whoa seven yeah around six

yellow all the guy we named and I'm older than um but all the guys we name a technically getting

older by rap years they're all over 30 yeah they're all over 35 probably close

to it yeah so I'm sad now that that that

said and I'll be honest we're old men you mean a 10 we're not gonna get another I need a girl

what would hip-hop be without I need a girl and I need a girl part too like honestly we're not getting wanna do

it you gonna get it from Bergen Chris Brown oh you know what Lauren B now what we're still gonna get them it'll come

back the sound will come back I think you know I think it's time for um I feel

like we've been stuck with the same sound for too long it's time for like a [ __ ] yeah hey think about it we've been

in a post so far gone it always well more or less in 10 years

it's a decade ago decade and it's Late Late anybody right go back to the beginning a hip hop no sound has been

dominat for that long yeah nothing but you literally it's usually a couple

years then it shifts so somebody gotta break the mold somebody gotta bring something to the table that makes

everyone go in that direction it used to be Kanye do you do you have a pick food that might be I don't know I

honestly I can't call it I thought Travis was gonna do that but I

think people just can't make his sound the way he can't and he got married so unique how about this who's gonna bring the

Just Blaze and Kanye sound into the future how come we haven't seen that in

the mainstream since they popped it off 10 years ago there's no more soulful

there's there's no more go-to guy that you know is cut from that cloth with the sole sampling

keep carrying traditional that [ __ ] that always used to be one before that was

premiered Pete Rock we haven't had a stream as much but yo premier used to

have a wine weightless yeah no doubt I'm not discrediting their workload or

popularity but they were yeah they didn't get the singles right yeah

exactly look at street single I got the street single yes but I still think that's missing though we we need doubt

that will balance the [ __ ] that we're hearing right now well who's heating up the playlist now call the baby's on fire

whoa nah I like so yeah these dudes is

sexist now eight and not trying to listen to these girls and what they're talking about nowadays oh they're missing out screaming please records

Karla you come to my pool party oh [ __ ] what's the date never mind any time

[ __ ] what's the date you don't worry about it bro I'm pulling up pulling up no no Zane

Lowe is coming now [ __ ] you I'm throwing that [ __ ] in the pool it's next week

car I don't expect you to be there but just consider this your invite I bet forget it all right Thank You Carl

appreciate my sake me sad bye boys later

it doesn't mean it's over for good it's just yeah at this point that's not a formula that really particularly works

yeah well [ __ ] moves in cycles I'm gonna [ __ ] it'll be back we have the missive

Bobby Brown yeah yeah yeah cuz not for

nothing it was people like : wale they were keeping that alive when Cole would do like his Miguel record every time

like that was keeping that structure alive yeah and now I think about it Drake never really used that structure

like that and you did it he did a few times easier he did he did a few time he's saying his owner you traded with

janae he chased that's why he did it well I would say that Alicia Keys one was a single

yeah decided beside leaks I'm done with Joe

Roy Ayers needs to get an award just for that just for my life my life my life my

life that's it he needs a lot of words actually where's fire Roy Ayers James Brown the [ __ ]

that all nine million of us can sample

not care like it just make a different song each time they need awards man honestly oh alright let's see we are now

let me turn that down like I'm faded up hey verified hey yeah I'm giving these

[ __ ] a set at the pool bar I don't get food trucks lights [ __ ] y'all I might even pump it up whoa

chill parks

okay opening night but I'm really excited about that that we won't talk

about I wouldn't give a [ __ ] if don't nobody show up i'ma stand right there

and I can't say but man yes come you are

- what you are - I'm gonna see what I'm a single Tom Wallace this might be the first time - three of us stand together

somewhere that's not a her concert and please believe I DM her and said all if

you're doing anything a DM they're all chummy-chummy you think we got a good

tell me tell me after the Nicki interview can we get out of it get out

of here is that not what chummy-chummy I want to I just let you get so much old as narratives off that are so unsure

every time he's back it is I want to get out of here alright fine we're getting out here listen man

what's my [ __ ] bust it down you would do the chummy it's now I think about it if

there's a chummy list you too chummy chair definitely the Chum you see I'm talking with record bass yami-chan

I'm that did tell me Jim you wanna show me Jim I'm the most Industry and I'm the

morning job you kind of go hand in hand I'm bringing chummy back not for y'all

to put it react works I'm bringing some me back leave show me where to send no

no all right fine listen uh we getting out of here wasn't I ca I forgot I bring for you to

start well life is just a memory life is a series of moments in moments past so

let's make this one last as if it's all we have keep us in your prayers lord knows you need to be there until the

next time adios arrivederci I bid you adieu hasta LaVista one goodbye so long

goodbye remember she's not fine she's young she's not thick she's on her tippy

toes she doesn't have hips she's sitting on the sink she doesn't have a sense of humor she grew up with brothers she's

not protecting a piece she's avoiding their baby a remix she's avoiding

accountability and failing to realize how our actions are having a negative effect on not only her but others in her

life as well okay all right and that's what I got for y'all this week man I want to thank each and every

one of y'all for being here with us lord knows you could have been anywhere in the world but you here with us we appreciate that again we want to thank Nicki Minaj for

joining us and sharing her platform we want to thank all of you guys for listening we just got mad

you