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Episode 291

Summize

Joe Budden Podcast Episode 291, “Summize,” released October 25, 2019. On this episode, Joe describes the #ChoosyChallenge (12:55). The guys also discuss the CTG and Gucci Mane interview (18:10), Summer Walker's breakup (53:00), new music from Frank Ocean (67:00), the Rolling Stone's new list (78:44), and Ray-J taking over for Suge Knight (124:15) and more! Sleeper Picks Joe: The LOX - "Freestyle" Rory: Garth. - "Melt" Mal: Fred The Godson - "Retaliation" Parks: Gang Starr - "Bad Name" Full transcript and searchable timestamps below.

Summize

In this episode

  • 12:55On this episode, Joe describes the #ChoosyChallenge
  • 18:10The guys also discuss the CTG and Gucci Mane interview
  • 53:00Summer Walker's breakup
  • 67:00New music from Frank Ocean
  • 78:44The Rolling Stone's new list
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Joe Budden Podcast Ep. 291 Transcript

Full transcript of Summize (2:33:04 long). Search it, or click any timestamp to jump to that moment.

  • 0:01

    Check mic. Hold up, man.

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    [ __ ] thought I wasn't here to part. Huh? Nobody thought that.

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    Nobody thought that, my [ __ ] How you know what [ __ ] thought? They didn't think that. Uh,

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    yeah. This is going to be one of these silly podcast. Yeah, I already thought this list is stupid. So,

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    uh, Rory, what list? We just be chilling.

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    No pre-pro. This is all off the dome.

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    Come on. [ __ ] Mo up. What did Mo say earlier about me? What' I say?

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    Bet you were choosy. I didn't say M's got his choosy challenge lined up

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    for sure right now. Say no. What I say? What I say?

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    I'm telling you right now. I am gonna say it. That's M choosy shirt. Yeah, he can't he can't choose a pattern. He can't

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    just do them all together. Hold up, man. Let me hit the [ __ ] Hold up, man. Eric, don't be zooming in on my [ __ ] either. All right, my [ __ ]

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    Now, get those triangles, man. We need those in HD. What? Man, what? Cuz I can tell where

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    you about to be silly. What? You was ill. Look at all the colors in the hat. I didn't even peep.

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    No, she was a [ __ ] fashion mister. I'm not a fashionist. Fashion mister.

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    I'm not a fashion mister. Fashion mister. You are to me. Okay. Thank you. You're fashionable and you're a mister.

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    Mr. Fashion. All right, man. I'm not doing this with y'all today. This is not Saturday. This is not This is [ __ ] winter. Feels like a Saturday, though.

  • 1:39

    Why? Cuz it's raining out. Dark. It rains every Saturday. All right. That is true.

  • 1:45

    It never rains in southern Atoria.

  • 1:51

    Yo, go ahead. Talk to the people. Let me introduce the talk to the people. Y'all keep trying to lead off. Y'all never read your contracts. Let me

  • 1:57

    introduce this [ __ ] Microphone check. One, two. What is this? Welcome to episode 291 of the Joe Button podcast.

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    I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, and highly favorite host, Joe Button. Here with a few of my nearest and dearest

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    friends. I got Maul here aka Rashid Sunflower. He's still in the building. Jone. I got J Bone.

  • 2:18

    [Music] H. It's the last time I will ever tell you.

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    Which dog want to get a bone? Which one of you dogs out there? Don't ask the dogs which one wants a

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    bone, my [ __ ] Don't do that. Don't do that.

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    Damn. We 6 minutes in. Yeah, don't do that. All right. Uh, we got Parks here. Hey, Parks.

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    Uh, we got Rory here, aka Prep Plus. Uh, hey,

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    don't don't get excited cuz I now have a nickname. Yo, how does it feel to finally have one in your friends?

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    That's not That's not my nickname. Got yours, B. I'm saying What type of loser has Rory been to have

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    never been gifted a nickname? I'm telling you, he had one, but it just he didn't like him. They was trying.

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    They tried. The hood was trying to give him a couple times. I know that. Couple times. You got to introduce yourself a lot as your name.

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    Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, people you know already What the hood was trying to nickname Rory? Bring the chain. Bring my change back.

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    Ginger, right? Imagine that. Don't forget my cinnab bun. Gingerbread man. You know, he was

  • 3:23

    calling him. Yeah. Name was mouse. I know you went to the store. Yo, mouse is going to the store for sure.

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    Yo, look how look how kind of country has conditioned us. Going to the store simply is the hugest of

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    That's all Uber Eats is. Go to the store for me. That's why them [ __ ] be having attitudes when they say take say ring

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    the bell. Like I didn't go there for you. Yeah. They be like, "Yo, son. N you come downstairs. I Yo, why we couldn't go to the store for [ __ ]

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    No, I used that was my first job on the block. Keep the change. That was the [ __ ] where the older [ __ ] like, "No,

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    go ahead. Keep that." What? You was lit. Now it's an insult. I don't I don't think [ __ ] ever

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    trusted me enough to send. He wasn't coming back. He wasn't coming back. I was a teenager.

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    Damn, the blunt was The whole thing was $20. Yeah. Yo, they raised the price. I was a grimy little [ __ ] man.

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    Yeah. Potato chips cost $10 all of a sudden. But yo, ain't no change. That was it.

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    Nah, that I wasn't wasn't back for the convo. Oh, yo, you just you didn't even bring

  • 4:19

    the dust. Oh, you was one of those. Oh, yeah. I'm out of town with this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You was one of those

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    with a with a five. Yeah. I got my dust from 125 and brought it back to Jersey. Oh, you probably could have just

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    And then that's by clothes. I was heated. I don't think you want to get dusted in Harlem. Back back then I did.

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    Yeah. Yeah. But there was so much dust in Jersey City. Why inconvenience? Inconvenience. I got it cheaper in Harlem.

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    M. But with the path adding up the price path is a dollar. Rory

  • 4:48

    with the path now. But you got to switch to the one. Rory is nasty. Look what he adding on to the on to the

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    bill. Um, we got a really good show lined up for you guys. Yes, we do.

  • 5:01

    I don't know if we do. Uh, where was I in this introduction? Shout out to our Spotify listenership. Shout out to our

  • 5:06

    YouTube viewership. I want to dedicate this show to anybody out there who maybe

  • 5:11

    in the past or in the future may feel the need to ask me as they listen to this podcast or hear certain clips or

  • 5:17

    excerpts of this podcast, Joe, why do you say some of the things that you say?

  • 5:23

    I want to dedicate this show to y'all. I So, let me answer it because I [ __ ]

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    can and because I feel like it. That sounded kind of specific. I felt

  • 5:35

    like it was directed at somebody. Somebody in particular. Just a little confusion out there.

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    Someone got you [ __ ] up. No, I don't think anyone does. I don't think they do.

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    Okay. I just felt I needed to explain in case anybody thought I may have needed to

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    explain in the future. All right. Glad we clear that. Glad we cleared the air. I mean, you want to use your platform

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    responsibly. It was stuffy in here. Yeah.

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    Yeah. Yeah, he opened the window. That was nice of him. It's not Saturday. I just want to remind

  • 6:10

    everybody that it is not Saturday. How's everybody feeling? Great. Feeling great. Good. Yeah. Feeling really good, huh? You had a real good weekend. Parks

  • 6:16

    had a birthday, huh? I did. We all went out as a family. We did. We did. Then I slept all day Saturday

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    as a result of going out as a family. Uh I tried hookah for the first time in over a year for your birthday. And got

  • 6:29

    to let you know, man, I made a really good choice over a year ago to not smoke is filthy. That [ __ ] is horrible.

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    I don't know how y'all still smoke that. I'm not And I'm not here to judge cuz I smoke hookah for a long time. Do that.

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    But I did that. I tried hookah one time and I feel like I was going to throw up all over the [ __ ] place. Yeah, but that don't count cuz you've

  • 6:47

    been better than us. You know what I mean? Right. I can't do the [ __ ] out of here, [ __ ] I can't do sick them all. [ __ ] eat

  • 6:55

    salmon every day and think you're better than us. I don't think it's [ __ ] healthy ass. Just saying, man. I' I've been on tour for a year with Mo

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    and I salmon every day. Yo, you want to switch it up maybe today? No, I think I a lot of mercury mall. You got to be careful.

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    No, I do seafood. Just you know, switch it up. Shrimp. Concerned about your mercury levels. Thank you, man. Yeah.

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    If you need a CPR, who would you want to give it to you? None of you [ __ ] Let me go. I just said I didn't even put my

  • 7:19

    Oh, in life. Maybe an EMT. Oh, Rihanna. She's available. You think she's good at it? CPR? She

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    might be Tank. Excuse me. I just said, "Let me die."

  • 7:32

    Wait, you wouldn't let Tank give you CPR? I wouldn't let no man give me CPR. So, you would die. I would die. N

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    don't let God listen. Don't stand in the way of what God is. You know what I mean? He calling me for a reason. You know, I

  • 7:44

    might need to answer that. You know what I'm saying? Yo, what's crazy? Are you thinking mouthto mouth or really CPR?

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    Mouth to mouth is part of CPR, isn't it? Not always. I'm not gonna let you die in front of me. Are you kidding me?

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    I mean, if if if it comes down to you having to put your mouth on. No, I wouldn't do that. I would do it through the fist.

  • 8:01

    The fist? Yeah. Like your shotgun in the blood? Yeah. So, all right. So, he would also

  • 8:07

    die and have to deal with that. And I don't know if your lungs is like that. I don't want the air from your

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    lungs like mad new breath in your mouth. Mad Newport. You go back in cardiac arrest.

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    [ __ ] wake up and die again. Like, oh [ __ ] that's [ __ ] Now I got lung cancer.

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    I wake up sick. I'm like, "All right, man. Who which one of y'all?" I can assure you we got a really good show lined up for you guys today, man.

  • 8:30

    And we're going to get to it right this second. So, uh All right.

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    Where do we go? There's a new Terminator on the on the way. That's where you're starting. No,

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    there's a new challenge. Yeah. On the way. No, it's it's here. Oh, it's here. It's arrived. It's arrived. Has it?

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    It's been announced. It has. If Screen Man can pull up the rules.

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    Oh yeah. All right, you guys.

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    It's time to get choosy. Hey.

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    Ah, Joe and Safari are going to kill this challenge together in Joe's backyard by the pool.

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    Okay, the Listen, man. The choosy challenge has begun. Choosy challenge.

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    How y'all feeling about it? What the [ __ ] are they doing up there? All right. Well, hold on. Let's get some context. Uh, if you don't know, that's a

  • 9:23

    fabulous song. And the choosy challenge has started. Choose a partner or choose a friend and catch a vibe. Dance, sing, or do

  • 9:30

    something creative together. # choosy challenge and me. He put his atmy

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    fabulous life in case you weren't following and didn't know his at cuz you're on the page. And I'll post the

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    best videos. You also get a chance to win $2,500 for the best juicy video.

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    That's a come up. I could use 25. I'm going to work on mine. Wait, I think

  • 9:51

    we should do one. That's your number. Actually, that'll get it done for you. Move over office skit. Why don't we do

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    the choosy challenge? We should do a choosy challenge together. Wait, y'all relax. You heard me try to up the price.

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    What he said? He's going to match. He said I I [ __ ] my favorite Instagram model for just for for just for three

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    stacks. He tried to up 500. No, he's pressing you out.

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    Sorry, chick. Still 25 here. No. Go see me.

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    Sometimes you got to send them on to the next person. Now you go ahead, [ __ ] Uh,

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    do you Well, do you think that's where Fab got that number from? That maybe you'd get behind it. So, choo. No, Rory. Choose a partner or

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    choose a friend and catch a vibe. So, that's the challenge. And I guess Well, you guys are friends. Joe and I

  • 10:34

    have never caught a vibe. But yeah, Rory like to [ __ ] catch vibes

  • 10:39

    at places with low ceilings. That's true. That's the best place to catch a vibe. Mo, why you looking in such amazement?

  • 10:45

    Come on, join the podcast. Use your platform responsibly. I'm thinking I'm thinking of uh Danstep. I'm thinking of a way where we could

  • 10:51

    probably win this 2500, man. I don't I don't think our listeners are

  • 10:56

    are too compelled by our You don't think they're choosing our listeners? I don't think they're choosing this right now.

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    Okay. Oh, I would love to call Fab and ask him about the challenge. I don't even think this is Fab's fault. I think this is a inexperienced

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    marketing person at Def Jam that sees that challenges worked last year and

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    they're like, "Well, maybe we should do that challenge thing that worked so well last year and didn't put any structure to it. It just says catch a vibe."

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    Yeah, you can't get your See, and this is where LA has us beat. I will I will say that. Let's open up the conversation

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    and get this away from just fab. That's the first thing I thought when I saw this video. I said, "See, in LA, nothing looks weird about getting a whole bunch

  • 11:32

    of people to keep dancing to your song in a garage somewhere and you keep taping it and just keep putting it out like Chris Brown does." Every time they

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    do it, I'm like, "All right, great. There's a new set of dancers." Because in LA, if you just go to the gas station, [ __ ] dancing. The homeless

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    [ __ ] are dancing. Everybody in LA is just dancing and taping themselves on the sidewalk. I think I think in New York, [ __ ] are going to work. I

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    think this challenge [ __ ] is is it's not really a I think this challenge thing is is is it

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    has its pros and I think it's cool because it gives people uh the chance to be noticed for their talent. No, but not

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    just this choosy challenge for all the challenges that come out when when an artist puts a record out. It kind of shines light on, you know, creatives and

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    dancers and and things like that that we might not normally see. I like but I hate it because it's like it's it's

  • 12:14

    there you have it folks. Like Fab's a rapper. Why? Fab's not a

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    dancer. Fab did not write this caption. No, he did. No, we know that. But but I

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    that's why I can't blame. I'm saying it's pros and cons cuz it it looks it looks it starts to look cheesy after a while when when when artists

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    just create challenges. But I do like it because it shines light on creatives and you know other people around the world.

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    So I mean I'm they they and I hate the word because we overuse it and we beat it to death. But

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    if it comes off organic, it works way better than you posting like, "Yo, I got

  • 12:51

    $2,000. Dance and I'll give it to you." And it's just not a match with Fab's

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    personality. Like, you're not going out out to a party like, "Guys, let's hit the choosy." It's just not

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    Well, you don't know. That's the choosy right there. I uh I don't know how how organic the So

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    Brooklyn challenge was. Like, I felt like Kasanova may have been promoting it and I really enjoyed it. Yeah, but it makes sense when a rapper has

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    other people rapping Cass Cass is really good at the internet. Like even before Cass was a

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    rapper, he was really good at Instagram. He knows how to make [ __ ] work and not come off like it's something he's forcing on people.

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    There's a list I'd love to hear from you guys. Who are the artists that are good at interneting? Fab for sure.

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    I think he's been I think he doesn't care to be anymore. He used to be really really good. Fab was one of the best. I don't know if he

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    cares or not, but he's Fab hasn't had a quote unquote studio release in how many years?

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    A lot. And he's still very relevant because of his his social media presence. So, he's

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    definitely one of the the top ones when it comes to just having a presence on social media.

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    Uh, I think the baby's really good. Oh, for sure. At the internet. Meg's good at it. Me is great at it. Joe, I think you're

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    really good at it. Oh, thanks Rory. Number three. No, I'm not number three on that list. Parks.

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    You should be a little higher. Thank you. Joe might Joe might find some [ __ ] Jesus.

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    This crowd is rough. Tough crowd here. Uh yeah, had we thought about this topic prior, I could have probably gave you a

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    full list, but Oh, no. All right. No, I don't I don't need names. Just want to hear a few. Yeah. Uh all right. So, that's how you guys

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    weekend was. Uh that's what you guys think of the choosing challenge. Awesome. Where would you gentlemen like to start on this uh on this fine fine

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    evening? There's turmoil. Turmoil in the breakfast club, man.

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    No, not the breakfast club. No, because it was only Charlemagne there.

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    Ah, okay. Which says that the beef is only with two members of the breakfast club, which

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    wouldn't make it breakfast. So, I titled it coffee and toast.

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    Okay. Which one's light brunch toast? No, just something that you have before the actual meal of breakfast comes. I see what you're doing. Just two two two

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    dishes. Okay. Coffee and toast. All right. Gucci versus coffee and toast. Is that right?

  • 15:07

    Yep. Yep. That's that's that's all the thought I put into production. Yeah.

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    Killed it. Thanks, man. Come on, man. Uh so, yeah. So, yes, in the uh in the continuing

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    battle to talk to people, uh Charlemagne said, "Well, I guess that battle is not ending."

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    It's getting spicy out there. Yeah. Yeah. Even Charlemagne even put on a bright blue hat to like really catch your attention for this one

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    and started a YouTube Oh,

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    what? What? What do you mean he started like a channel or like a stream? Yeah, he's got He started a YouTube

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    channel. Oh, well, how can he how can he properly battle you and Elliot and Nick Cannon

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    without you? Elliot doesn't have a YouTube channel. Oh, for real. Rap Radar. I don't know. I think that's

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    his. And I'm not saying that Joe is the inventor of YouTube channels.

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    I mean, Chia 2011 was out there. making love trying to pull that one on me. Oh no, buddy. But and I don't think there's

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    nothing wrong with that. Listen, be inspired. However, you're inspired. You invented the interview. I think this is good. I think it's good.

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    I think Elliot needs one. I think Charlemagne needs one. I think anybody that's good at what they do needs a YouTube channel. But we'll talk about uh

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    we'll talk about that later on. Uh we were saying here, uh yes, there was a clip that seemed to

  • 16:21

    ruffle feathers over at the club. People going to see this and be like, he must be banned cuz why he not in the uh

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    why he not in the studio? For the record, he's not bad. What What show is this? This is What is What is Charlamagne

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    call? This is Charlemagne pull-up. Okay, just a pushup.

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    [ __ ] shut up. Oh, my bad. Never mind. Oh, look at y'all supporting me.

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    Is that what that is? I'm just I thought that's what it feels weird. Yeah, I know. Come on, let's play it.

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    You know where that came from? It came from that punk ass [ __ ] man. And DJ M. That's where you started. Right into it.

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    Envy did it too. Envy is [ __ ] man. [ __ ] He was scared. Wasn't even scared to come. You

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    know he scared. Where he at? I didn't know he supposed to be here. He wasn't going to come. He wasn't going to come because the day they did that

  • 17:11

    people court thing and you wasn't there. He was there. New the girl or whatever. So he ain't have

  • 17:18

    the nuts to come after he did that. I knew I was going to confront him, too. I say, "Hey man, you know, you got something to say to me?" I just want to

  • 17:26

    see what he was going to say. cuz he seemed like he had something he want to say to me. I don't think

  • 17:32

    so. I going to give Miss, you know, I going give him his face to face because I ain't know me and him had no issue. But I do got issue with him, too. I got

  • 17:38

    issue with him now. I'm step. Oh, come on, Uncle Charlotte. Just like he stepped through when people were talking about his wife when they came up there. He confronted them.

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    So, I'm going confront him about what him and Angela did. And if he So, wait, where did this start?

  • 17:50

    Well, Parks, that's funny. You You got some backtory for us? No, no, no, I do not. Well, no. I remember it was just MVY and

  • 17:57

    Angela Yei like brought it back up maybe two three weeks ago on the Breakfast Club. I don't know if they

  • 18:04

    were responding to Gucci who brought it back up again but brought up that whole situation where Gucci went on the

  • 18:10

    Breakfast Club and said to Angela like, "Yo, you wanted me to [ __ ] a while ago." Okay, I remember that now. Yeah.

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    So, this is [ __ ] from 3, four years ago that they're still harping on. Yeah. Okay. Um and then Charlemagne decided to sit

  • 18:22

    with Gucci to do an interview and it was brought back up. Because I guess they was just back on the club

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    talking about it. Compelling [ __ ] I know. I know. Varks.

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    I know. I'm intrigued. I can't wait for the day of [ __ ] just want to sit down and talk to other men.

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    Just stops. Get me unemployed. [ __ ] what the [ __ ] is you talking about? Relax. We do.

  • 18:47

    Yeah. What are you talking about? We talk to other men. We talk. We kick it with ourselves. We just talk to Vince. We talk to men sometimes.

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    Yeah, but that's sometimes. all of this wanting to sit down and just act like [ __ ] got relationships with

  • 18:59

    each other and all that. Gucci man don't [ __ ] with Charlamagne. Like, well, my my favorite part about that

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    clip was he thought he was supposed to be at the Breakfast Club. He said, "You see, you're not here right now." It was a one-on-one interview with

  • 19:11

    Charlamagne and Gucci. From Envy's response, I'm guessing Gucci thought that or at some point it was

  • 19:16

    supposed to be that because Envy says once Angela uh said she didn't want to do it, then he was like, "All right, I'm

  • 19:23

    cool. I'm not doing it. Well, Gucci, I understand what it's like to be banned from the Breakfast Club, and I know how frustrating it can be.

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    Wasn't Mo banned, too? I don't know. Banned. I never wanted to go. What are you talking about? No, you're still banned, [ __ ]

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    Can't be banned from something I never plan to go to. Yeah, right.

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    You're banned, dog. I didn't make the rule. Okay. But but but Gucci, I mean, he didn't he didn't have to he didn't have

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    to call Angela out her name like that, though. I didn't I wasn't feeling that. Like I think as men, especially in this

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    in this culture, you can't uh we we got to be more careful just calling women out their name like that. Like that to

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    me that's Gucci has changed so much and you know, he's in a different light now. And um you know, to see him just go back

  • 20:04

    to just using that verbiage when it comes to a female was just kind of like it was unnecessary to me. And I [ __ ] with Gucci, but and I know he might have

  • 20:10

    some real feelings towards Angela. He might be upset about some things, but we just got to be careful of, you know, how we address certain things. Like he's in

  • 20:17

    a way different space now. He's uh he's looked at as a real cool. He's on, you know, he's healthy. He's mentally he

  • 20:23

    seems like he's in a better uh space. So to see him go there, I know, like I said, they have history and whatever

  • 20:28

    upset him, but we got to be careful about with [ __ ] like that. Well, like he said in this in in this clip, he feel like they did some nasty

  • 20:35

    [ __ ] But even if they did, I still it's still a certain way. I'm with you. I'm not devil's advocating.

  • 20:40

    Yeah. No, I feel you. I'm just saying uh he expressed where his where his uh feelings stem from.

  • 20:45

    I understand. I understand. I get it. So, we don't we don't need to guess. Yeah. Uh, let me read Envy's response. He

  • 20:52

    says, and this is a picture of him and his dog serving the intimidation. And he's matching his uh culling in.

  • 20:58

    He's got the jail pose. And the Jordans match the call in, too. Okay, Envy, I see what you did there. I like his dog.

  • 21:03

    Uh, did Envy get the hair implants? I didn't know he was bald.

  • 21:09

    Saying looks looks a little 17ish in in the line. All right, let's see. Envy says, "And

  • 21:16

    before I get into this, let me hit the drops, man. You [ __ ] got me off my Dean." No, no,

  • 21:25

    no. Joan, no wor.

  • 21:35

    Okay. DJ Envy says, "Me and my dog. Three emojis."

  • 21:42

    Well, Charlemagne the God gave me a heads up when this interview was done and I told

  • 21:48

    him to play it. This isn't the first time I've been threatened by an artist and probably won't be the last time.

  • 21:55

    I've never been slapped or snuffed or jumped before, so I'm not sure where that came from, but funny by all means.

  • 22:04

    Uh Gucci Gucci was never banned from the Breakfast Club. When asked

  • 22:10

    uh when asked, "Would I do an interview without Ye," my reply was, "I will not

  • 22:15

    do anything unless you clear it with my coworker." We call that riding for your team where I'm from.

  • 22:21

    Gunshot. Oh, all right. Let me gunshot. And he's upset because my coworker

  • 22:28

    defended herself. Never in a million years will I tell my

  • 22:33

    co-host what to say or what not to say. We share that platform. When Gucci did

  • 22:39

    that post about Ye, she defended herself on the Breakfast Club and he's mad because I let her do it. I have never

  • 22:46

    ran from a conversation in my life. My kids are good, my wife is good, and my

  • 22:51

    dog is excellent. Anyway, I heard uh I heard some lies and wanted to address

  • 22:57

    it. Back to enjoying Paris.

  • 23:04

    All right, gentlemen. React. Paris. Nice.

  • 23:11

    Uh, he said some things in here I can agree with. Yeah, I think that that was a good

  • 23:17

    I'm they had a back and forth. I'm definitely checking with with Angela before I do anything with Gucci

  • 23:23

    without question. Yeah, I agree. I agree. I think that was the honorable thing to do.

  • 23:29

    But I mean, was this I still don't know. Was this supposed to be a Breakfast Club thing or was Charlemagne doing something

  • 23:36

    and he wanted them to be a part of it? No, I think I think he just never went

  • 23:41

    back up there because of the issue with Angela. And this this is a whole separate Charlemagne thing that he was doing with Post Malone and everyone like

  • 23:48

    his pull-up. I think it's a completely separate entity of what the Breakfast Club is

  • 23:54

    because he says, "When asked, would I do an interview without you?" My reply was, "I will not do anything unless you clear

  • 23:59

    with my coworker." Who was he talking to? Uh, I mean, not all of them do the interviews. Sometimes it'll be two of

  • 24:05

    them. Sometimes it be all three. I've don't think I've ever seen just one of them. The three of them all have their own

  • 24:10

    side ventures. Yeah. So, that's what I'm saying. Was Was this supposed to be Charlemagne was pulling them in? No, I think it may have just been some

  • 24:17

    type of miscommunication or or maybe once Envy pulled out after you didn't want to do it, Charlemagne was the only

  • 24:22

    one that would fly and get it done. Now, how that my confusion here is how that

  • 24:27

    wouldn't end up on the Breakfast Club's YouTube and Charlemagne's YouTube. I don't know. I haven't really factored because I don't care. I'm not that invested. But,

  • 24:33

    well, to cut you off, I'm going to stop saying not to cut you off when I cut you off. To cut you off,

  • 24:39

    uh, why would they do all this? And no, this is a no shot at Gucci, but like

  • 24:44

    rushing to a Gucci interview. We have to have beef with our whole squad on who's going to interview him and all that for

  • 24:51

    the Gucci interview. clicks. Y'all think that Envy and uh Ye felt the way that Charlemagne did that?

  • 24:57

    Oh, for sure. I think so. I think Angela definitely did. For sure. I'm sure he must have cleared it with them. You don't think?

  • 25:03

    Cleared it with them or discussed it with them? They probably have a group chat. Scroll up, Scream Man. I think Envy said

  • 25:08

    that Charlemagne told him about it. Uh Charlemagne gave me the heads up when this interview was done. All right. So,

  • 25:14

    after it was done, that does not say No, it doesn't. It doesn't. Yeah, you're right. That specifically says it. And it doesn't say that he had that same

  • 25:20

    conversation with Angela, right? No. and give me your thoughts on this. Like, let me let's stop just talking about

  • 25:26

    what happened. We're clear on what happened. But should he have Should he have what? I think so.

  • 25:32

    Well, well, should he have what? You're right. Should he have Should he have done it? If I was about to do something with someone that you're beefing with, I

  • 25:37

    would let you know. I'm hitting you for sure. Yeah. Before I agree to anything. Yeah. I'm hitting you

  • 25:44

    before I reply. Like, the moment I get that inquiry, what was this for like But what was this? What was this for? Gucci has

  • 25:51

    something coming that he's just put out. Well, Gucci just put out mouth. So, this was this was just promo. He's been uh on promo run. He's been

  • 25:58

    talking to everybody. Um, so this was I feel like so this was supposed to be a a Breakfast Club thing maybe.

  • 26:03

    And and and I'm speculating, but maybe Charlemagne saw that it wasn't going to be a breakfast club thing and had this

  • 26:08

    platform and said, "All right, I'll just do it on that platform." And I guess that's what I'm saying. Should he have not done that? I mean,

  • 26:14

    of course he should have. Come on, Joe. Joe, you got you got to talk to your people. Of course he should not have done it. You know that. Well, he could do it if

  • 26:20

    he said, "Yo, I'm doing this thing." And if Angela is fine with it. Yeah. I don't really think Envy in that because

  • 26:26

    En doesn't really have beef with them. But Ye does. Charlemagne shouldn't have done it. Period. If it was supposed to be a

  • 26:32

    breakfast club thing, obviously Angela Yei wasn't going to be there. It was probably going to just be Charlemagne and Envy,

  • 26:37

    then if Envy was like, you know, Angela felt some type of way like, nah. So that's why Envy didn't do it.

  • 26:43

    Charlemagne wasn't supposed to do You know, let me not speak on on the Breakfast Club because uh you know, we

  • 26:49

    have relationships with all of these people, but boy, is it important to establish your relationships uh inside

  • 26:56

    the workplace and outside of it and make sure to never have the lines blurred. Mhm. Because as we're having this

  • 27:01

    conversation like these are some of the same things that during time during some of my time at complex that I got ang

  • 27:09

    angered with maybe a desk over just feeling like okay you're not riding like

  • 27:16

    you're down with you're down more so down with the machine than down with

  • 27:22

    whatever the [ __ ] the topic may have been at the time. So I get it. I get it. I would honestly I

  • 27:30

    would have I would have liked to see them all do it and for Gucci and Angela to have a conversation about whatever

  • 27:37

    issues they have with each other. Yeah, but and that's where I kind of I do agree with Gucci.

  • 27:42

    Issue over what, my [ __ ] Yo, life is so [ __ ] short. Mhm. Y'all telling me all of this is

  • 27:48

    happening because I said that you text me after this [ __ ] and and tried to kick it, right? Like that's not really that big of a

  • 27:55

    deal. Especially if it don't apply, let it fly. if it didn't happen. Even if it did, it's not that serious. I'm married. Like you're doing what

  • 28:02

    you're doing. It was an interview. If anything, it it gave us a little moment in the interview. Y'all should understand that. That's our that's our

  • 28:08

    business, right? Yeah. Uh so I just don't see Yeah. I think I think it would have been better if they just, you know,

  • 28:13

    and that's where I disagree with but that is where I disagree here. And that's where I'll venture off on and get

  • 28:19

    really into my rogue bag because if one of you two [ __ ] is beefing, and we've

  • 28:25

    had these beefs, uh, well, a few of us. If one of you [ __ ] is beefing over something that I feel is stupid, Yeah. I

  • 28:32

    might support you publicly, but I'm certainly going to tell you that I think that this is over some real stupid frivolous [ __ ]

  • 28:37

    Well, that's that's a friend. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm saying like I I would have

  • 28:43

    there's a I feel like there's a way they could have gotten it done. Like if if Charlemagne and Envy went to Ang and was

  • 28:49

    like, "Yo, listen. I understand you feel some type of way. You're upset with them." But I think it would be dope if we go on air and y'all two clear it out,

  • 28:55

    talk about it, and just have a conversation like adults like, and just, you know, clear up whatever confusion might be in the air.

  • 29:02

    Listen, you can't embarrass a woman publicly, especially talking about intimacy or trying to kick it or

  • 29:07

    anything like that. They hold that [ __ ] They old at you for but I feel like I feel like I feel like even now Gucci is in a place where

  • 29:14

    if she said that expressed that I feel like Gucci would have apologized like he's he's a he's a different person.

  • 29:19

    He just said he don't really feel like he he's been wrong in the situation. But but you could feel like you you didn't say anything or do anything wrong

  • 29:25

    and when you sit down and have a conversation with somebody and they express certain things, you could be like, you know what, I understand. And I

  • 29:31

    feel like Gucci is that type of person where he he's changed he's changed his his his stance a lot. Like he's changed

  • 29:36

    his demeanor. He's changed the way he he moves. He's changed his life. And I think that if you sit down and have a conversation like, "Yo, listen. I was I

  • 29:43

    felt some type of way about that." I think that Gucci is savvy enough where he would have been like, "You know what? I understand. I apologize." He's a

  • 29:48

    married man now. I'm pretty sure him and his wife have conversations about things she may be upset with or he may be upset

  • 29:53

    with. It's just part of life. We adults, bro. Y'all got me feeling a little phony cuz I feel like I'm I'm not mad at Charlemagne actually doing the

  • 29:59

    interview. Like, I'm not mad at him. You one of those interview guys. Yeah. And that's more important than

  • 30:05

    life itself. So, Yeah. or morals or anything of that nature. Are you moral? Are you being the moral

  • 30:13

    [ __ ] [ __ ] I'm joking, man. But if Angela uh But I do I like I like Envy

  • 30:19

    stance. You know, obviously Angela wasn't wasn't uh didn't want to do it,

  • 30:24

    which I think again they should have gotten it done. But once she said she has that right, I super respect Envy's

  • 30:29

    stance on it. Yeah. And I understand Charlemagne's stance on it. If Angela said fine, then yeah, then

  • 30:36

    Charlmagne did nothing wrong. If if Ye was like, "Yeah, go ahead." But why? What if him and Angela ain't friends? She obviously didn't say fine.

  • 30:43

    Wait, wait, wait, wait. See, slow down. What if they're not friends? We're still still We still have

  • 30:48

    I'm going off I'm going off the public perception that they give to the world that they are the three of them are very close friends.

  • 30:54

    They have never given that perception to the world, but they have a platform together. Joe does not give that perception to the world. They do a show

  • 31:00

    together. They do a show together. I know. But it's very important to point out distinctions. And while they do a show together and it's been a great show

  • 31:07

    for show for a whole lot of years, let's be clear. Let's there's nothing to misconstrue. None of them have ever

  • 31:13

    portrayed themselves to be the best of friends. Not a one of them. Maybe not. Not one time. They call themselves They call

  • 31:18

    themselves family publicly. Rory, come on. You know better than that.

  • 31:24

    Often. You know better than the family publicly lying. Listen, man. We're still if

  • 31:29

    you're going to do it. like let's link and build. But when you actually [ __ ] with each other on a regular basing

  • 31:37

    this with y'all and we and we holding this longer than we should. Let's let's end it at this. Charlemagne

  • 31:43

    obviously feels like he's the Beyonce of the Breakfast Club. Wait, wait, wait, wait. So, hold on. His

  • 31:48

    ego is going to say, "No, I'm going to get this Gucci interview." That's just the bottom line. Like, we ain't got to sit here and dance around

  • 31:54

    it. He feels like he is the face of the Breakfast Club. He feels like he is the

  • 31:59

    guy that people Where do you get that from? Because he did the Gucci interview. A lot of things that he does.

  • 32:04

    Well, he may be the Beyonce of the Breakfast. I'm not saying he's not. I'm just telling you how he feels. So, he's going to go get the Gucci interview even if

  • 32:11

    Ang is going to be mad about it and Envy is standing with Angie. No, we understand that. I'm only saying if him and an are not friends and they

  • 32:19

    are only co-workers and I don't know that to be true. I'm just even if they are, this was supposed to be a breakfast club thing. But and

  • 32:25

    obviously so we assume No, we I mean we have the the context. Could be a misunderstanding there. But

  • 32:31

    no and Gucci said he was banned from going up there. So no, that's not something we're assuming. Both parties on both sides have said

  • 32:37

    that this would have been been a Breakfast Club dinner. But wait, I do understand there wasn't banned. He's not banned. He wasn't banned.

  • 32:42

    One person doesn't want you up here, which is different from a band. Even if

  • 32:48

    it's the same as a band, all of us don't want you up here. a ban is yo this this radio station building

  • 32:55

    yeah will not let you in here because of a decision made internally

  • 33:00

    just saying she was Angela now wasn't Gucci up there don't mean that he's banned no but they said he wasn't banned

  • 33:06

    but it also does mean that they won't let his ass up there and that's where no because I'm pretty sure if Envy

  • 33:13

    wanted to do it it would have been at the studio and they've done things where Angel wasn't there at the time

  • 33:18

    they've done that they've done that a couple times been times Charlemagne wasn't there. It was just Ang and uh Envy.

  • 33:24

    Yeah, it's happened a lot. I think Charlemagne sat out the last time Troy A went up there. He said he wasn't going to sit down when Troy went up there. Yes, he did.

  • 33:29

    Yeah. And that's that's him because he don't [ __ ] with Troy cuz he he [ __ ] with T. So that's him riding for his men. So

  • 33:35

    he's like, "Okay, y'all can interview him. I'm out." So why he didn't take this same stance with Gucci?

  • 33:41

    I don't know. Moving on to further news. Yeah, I like your little segway.

  • 33:46

    That's good clothes. Make a little segue, man. You just got to be honest sometimes, man. We can have fun, but let's be honest. Yo, what you was laughing at me about

  • 33:52

    earlier, man? Let me think real quick for a minute. Cuz that was that was super funny and I ain't like that. What? I don't remember.

  • 33:58

    Don't say nothing super funny about it. We just be laughing about what I said. What? Who I was giving directions to?

  • 34:03

    Oh, yeah. You was Let's go into it cuz we got a topic we want to talk about. So, let's let's do that and then we'll

  • 34:09

    we'll go into that. Let's let's do that. Let's do that. Let's do it. What we doing?

  • 34:14

    Talking talking about you know what we was talking about the things we like to discuss. This is the things we like to

  • 34:20

    discuss. Some of the things. No, at all. These are some of the things we like to discuss. No, I actually hate when we have to

  • 34:25

    discuss these things. It could be because I'm forced to play the contrarian. No,

  • 34:31

    the contrarian role. You should really think that way. Yeah. And that

  • 34:36

    and that. Yeah. But it's true. It's not. I would like to play the other role sometimes.

  • 34:41

    Okay. So, then let's play it now. Yeah. Let's Well, let's see if you can play it now. Let's see if we can remix it.

  • 34:47

    I can't play it now. This is This is egregious. And you [ __ ] is going to cop to it right this [ __ ] second,

  • 34:53

    buddy. This is egregious. Hey, hit it, buckle. Whenever you use a word like egregious, it's like I've been freestyle for 200

  • 35:00

    years. Nah, doggy. Nah, dog. You ain't going to send me to YouTube. Give you some light bars real quick cuz I [ __ ] with this. All right, man.

  • 35:06

    Listen. Yo, bring your lungs. I'll be steaming with the Marley. Bring the guns. I get

  • 35:12

    the steam in the party. Nowadays, you might see me with a Barbie was going to take my ex back. I seen her whistle far

  • 35:19

    had her with the work in the car my [ __ ] but you join the circus you clown

  • 35:24

    [ __ ] and when you [ __ ] up can't come back around this from the late great hood how I sound maybe older but look

  • 35:34

    [Music] man oh miss hood man rest in peace

  • 35:46

    all right gentle Gentlemen, new Cameron Freestyle over over the like Whoa.

  • 35:53

    He said he said he'd had them bars for mad long. Yeah, light bars. That was light. Cammy, he at the light.

  • 35:58

    That was got to be light balls when you at the light. You know that. Killer was at the light.

  • 36:05

    Them bars ain't heavy when you at the light. [ __ ] why the other cars going? That's not his turn to go.

  • 36:11

    And they just happened to be listening to the WO instrumental. Yeah, he was at the light. Yeah.

  • 36:16

    Yeah. Just got the warning all queued up. You know what I mean? Yeah. Turn around. Listen to old instrument.

  • 36:22

    Lights. Light. I feel that vibe. Yeah. But y'all fess up. Fess up. Light.

  • 36:28

    Come on, man. Got the tracksuit on. How much light? I'm taking y'all won't be caught right now if y'all don't fess it up.

  • 36:33

    Killer. You hating on Cam. Listen. He got the track suit on. That's light. I don't think he should have said it,

  • 36:39

    but I feel him. I feel him 100%. No. No. No. Because I'm bitter. That's all.

  • 36:45

    Oh, okay. Nah, but it's it's not that bad. Finally, look at Rory opening up the floor for dialogue. Who's bitter,

  • 36:51

    man? It's not that. Who's bitter in here? No, it's not. I've been We've all been bitter. Come on.

  • 36:57

    I don't think he's bitter. Cam is bitter. First of all, this is this is probably No, no, no. I meant I meant I feel him

  • 37:02

    cuz I'm bitter. Not that Cam is bitter. But that is what that means. If you feel him because you're bitter, then you think No, it's how I interpret it.

  • 37:08

    You [ __ ] I don't think he I don't think Cam is bitter. I That's a real thing, though. Like when you see your ex and her new

  • 37:15

    dude, you know, or the dude she may be dating is a super cornball, that makes you feel like, wait,

  • 37:21

    it's much easier to stomach the new dude when it's it's like someone that's cool. Yeah. Like cuz you can understand it.

  • 37:28

    Yeah. But when it's cooler, when you then you're just a hater, you

  • 37:34

    know, dude is a cool dude. You be like, "Yo, he's Yeah, he's corn." Nah, you just a hater. Whatever. Yo, men are so [ __ ] arrogant.

  • 37:41

    I know. Who the [ __ ] is Who the [ __ ] are you to have to decide on who she gets to

  • 37:47

    talk to? Do we still have the Roy dropped? But you would still want her to be with somebody that is looked at as cool.

  • 37:52

    Huh? You still want her to be with somebody that's looked at as a cool dude. Okay. So, let me get you guys.

  • 37:57

    Like the fellas know who the cool dudes are. And if you still care for your ex, you would like to see her with someone. You

  • 38:02

    know, when you see a dude and you like you're a nice You don't want him to be too cool though. Not too cool, but you don't want to be You don't want your ex with a cornball

  • 38:08

    either, though. Yeah. That's all I'm saying. You don't want to see your ex running around with a clown. You don't want that.

  • 38:14

    And it don't mean you trying to get back with her or you hating. It's just like, what are you doing? Yeah. Like, yo, come on. You You look crazy.

  • 38:20

    That's all that you're on that roster. Yeah. Cuz now now it can be looked at, oh, oh, she like cornball. So, now I might fall

  • 38:27

    into some of that. It might start raining cornball juice on me. Pause. You know what I'm saying?

  • 38:33

    That's all. So, I felt killer on that. Yeah. I was going to take it back, but now you got this cornball juice on you. So it's

  • 38:39

    like, you know how long it take to get cornball juice off you? It take like three summers to get that off. You need like a tomato bath.

  • 38:44

    That's three summers. You got to be cool for three straight summers before you not looked at as a cornball no more.

  • 38:50

    That's tough, too. It's a lot of work, man. I felt killer. I felt him. I'm sorry. I felt it. Okay,

  • 38:56

    fine. We'll do this the hard way. Go ahead. This is egregious.

  • 39:02

    This is where I figured out where our disconnect comes from. Me and you guys, I figured it out. Okay. right here in this conversation.

  • 39:09

    Okay. You guys look at things in isolation

  • 39:14

    and I look at things in totality. So when I summize, it's based off what

  • 39:21

    I'm seeing and a good word. There's a lot of good words. Yeah. No, this isn't really fair. You're trying to win this one.

  • 39:27

    He just using Mortal Kombat words. No, no, no. He been watching the Wuang show.

  • 39:33

    He read a Rizza book. You got you in RZ bag. Get out a bag. First of all,

  • 39:40

    so so when I summize, I'm I'm looking at the spectrum in in a hole. Mhm.

  • 39:46

    You guys here, right? Mhm. Are looking at this and saying, "No, I feel him." Because we feel him.

  • 39:52

    As [ __ ] you never want to see your chick [ __ ] with a dude that's

  • 39:57

    perceived to be a cornball cornball or corny or just with that type of juice on

  • 40:02

    him, right? Mhm. There's no debate there. There is nothing to argue. I think all men will

  • 40:08

    agree there. Mhm. What I am saying is as men and women

  • 40:14

    too, this is to everybody. There comes a point after the breakup and boy am I not

  • 40:19

    the one to talk about this. There comes a point after the breakup

  • 40:25

    where all right, you got to chill. And now whatever point that is is for

  • 40:31

    people to make up on their own. Clearly Cam don't feel that he's at that point yet here. But what I'm saying is he just

  • 40:38

    gave us the the the three minute click clip over to Al Green where he was

  • 40:44

    barring her down with the spoken word spoken word poetry. I I missed that one. I missed that one too.

  • 40:50

    Are you kidding me? It's some of the greatest [ __ ] audio that the internet has ever seen. It's really funny. It's a

  • 40:56

    video. It's is Cam being Cam. But what if you didn't see her with Safari, which is always funny, but you seen her

  • 41:02

    with Safari? It's all new. Safari got a whole kid coming and G. We know. We know. Obviously, we know this is old, but I'm saying when that

  • 41:08

    when when Cam made that clip, what if that was before? At what point do you have to stop firing

  • 41:15

    on your ex before you appear to be? I'm not talking about Cam. And that's why I'm not talking about Cam

  • 41:21

    because I trust me, I feel him. I am the I'm the To bring back your point. Who has fired

  • 41:28

    at their ex more than Joe? And longer. Nobody. Nobody. No. Honestly, there's a lot of records that

  • 41:33

    I hold that y'all going to not going to acknowledge till I'm gone. But that's another one of them. Nobody is fired off on their ex more

  • 41:39

    than me. Boy, am I ashamed of that. But that's why I know what comes with

  • 41:45

    that. Some good songs. Yeah, I know. That's what Cam's trying to do. Yeah. Yeah. Good content.

  • 41:51

    He's trying to make make some songs. And to bring up your point from the breakfast club [ __ ] you don't know what's going on behind closed doors or

  • 41:57

    what their relationship is. She could be whing in his text message right now. True. That's true. No, that's true.

  • 42:03

    See, you know things in in fatalities. Cam could be minding his [ __ ] business at that light and she's blown up. You have to smise in the fatalities

  • 42:09

    of the totalities. Miza's crazy.

  • 42:16

    Yeah. No, I still feel Cam though because you know why you can get this line? You know why you can get this line off and feel safe? Why?

  • 42:22

    And again, not talking about Cam because I'm not talking about people that I directly [ __ ] know or see or from the

  • 42:28

    same [ __ ] place. But you know why he gets this off? You get this off because Safari is with

  • 42:34

    somebody else. Cuz now cuz now you can say, "Yo, I seen my ex with this corny [ __ ] man."

  • 42:41

    Mhm. Cuz if he's hasn't if Safari is not with someone else,

  • 42:46

    then you run the risk of exposing your vulnerabilities while the corny [ __ ] is stealing stealing from the bank.

  • 42:53

    Mhm. Cuz now that's a conversation that we need to open up to the floor. How many of you real [ __ ] or real Ivory

  • 43:00

    brothers uh have been in this or know someone that

  • 43:05

    has had their queen taken from them by the corny dude? Oh, it happens a lot. Yeah.

  • 43:11

    Oh, no. It's definitely happening. Come on. Raise your hand if you're sure. Come on, Mo. Raise your hand. There we go. Now,

  • 43:17

    now we approach conversation where vulnerability is involved. But women usually go to the cornball

  • 43:23

    after they've been through so many. Yo, you stealing the words out my brain. And Cam, I feel like Cam knows that.

  • 43:29

    Yeah, Cam knows that. So, it's a security. And of course, he knows that cuz his next bar is I had her with the work in the

  • 43:35

    car. She was my damn B. Whatever he was getting into. So, that's saying, yo, this is what we was on. Yeah.

  • 43:40

    You know, Safari is not having her on that. Yeah. No. So, you know that the chick that you had

  • 43:46

    hide work in the car is running to the corny dude after you. You feel like he's

  • 43:51

    science. It's got to happen. You feel like the cornball is not going to cheat on you. He's not going to, you know, and the the corny dude. I feel like

  • 43:57

    corny dudes are almost predator-like when it comes to hurt women. They'll tell them exactly what they want to hear. They'll dirty mac with not a care

  • 44:04

    in the world about like dirty Mac Hall of Fame. Nothing but comos. Yeah. So that's why that's why you know

  • 44:10

    you can't get too mad. Yeah. Yeah. I know you [ __ ] that's in the Dirty Man Call of Fame too by the way.

  • 44:15

    Let me just throw that out there. Yeah. They be thinking they moving covertly. Yeah. Yo, you a body in the verbal game

  • 44:21

    today. Yeah. Word. I told you listen to two wrist albums. No. Trying to break the I'm trying to

  • 44:28

    break the cycle of trash Wednesday pods after a fire Saturday pod vocab. We got to get off that.

  • 44:34

    That That'll do it. Surmise us into the Get us to the next level. Surmise us to the next level. Surmise us

  • 44:41

    to the next level. So much space and opportunity in here now. Yo, that's what I've been I've been trying to tell you that when I first

  • 44:47

    walked in, it's wild space over here now. So all that getting up [ __ ] is different now. The energy is different.

  • 44:52

    So whatever you trying to do, I was here when we first walked in like I'm here now. But whatever you trying to do, just let me know.

  • 44:58

    We going to get a shake in out of this room. I'm telling you. This space, we going to break this whole new desk. Parts going to be tight. That's my first

  • 45:04

    go to. slamming you up on the ground. Whoever it is, you're going down. That looks painful, too, cuz that's not

  • 45:10

    going to break. No, it's not. Um, damn. I had a good point to get to on

  • 45:16

    corny [ __ ] stealing your girl, man. It happens. It happens. Commonly. Yeah,

  • 45:21

    it does. Yeah. Don't dig up your nose now, Parks. [ __ ] out of here, man. Identify with us. You know, your ex has some cuth enough

  • 45:28

    not to parade them around in like places you may be, too. Oh, you know that's what they're going to do.

  • 45:33

    Let me flip. Let me That's the whole point. Wait, hold on. Let me flip this around so we can start relating to each other cuz we're all pieces of [ __ ]

  • 45:39

    How many times How many times have you moved on with the young with the young lady that your old work is looking at

  • 45:46

    you like [ __ ] clown ass now? But women

  • 45:53

    just give it to me answer first before you explain. Don't qualify. No, listen. The reason why that's different, Joe, is because I can't get answer. Listen, you can go

  • 46:00

    listen. You can go from your ex to Michelle Beyonce and she like you with that [ __ ] Like this is Beyonce.

  • 46:06

    Everyone would be with Beyonce. Like what are you talking about? So for women that game is different cuz they look at any woman you move on to like you with

  • 46:13

    that [ __ ] That's not them. Yeah. No. And let me just alert all of my brothers out there

  • 46:20

    that let me just talk share from experience. That's the trap.

  • 46:25

    That's the trap, buddy. Your old work is going to press you

  • 46:31

    about this new [ __ ] [ __ ] that you're seeing. I I didn't even know you was into that.

  • 46:37

    She's going to Yeah. Word. Honestly, yo, she's not going to let up off it. She'll continue to the point where you will be

  • 46:44

    tempted to defend this new girl. She's pretty cool. Nice girl. Let me tell you, bucko, don't do it.

  • 46:52

    It don't matter. No matter what you say about the new girl. No, that's when Don't engage. That's when you trapped.

  • 46:58

    Oh, you defending this [ __ ] Exactly. You're not letting me talk [ __ ] about her. You really like her about your

  • 47:05

    about your friend. You're not letting me talk [ __ ] about this [ __ ] I don't know. Exactly. See, that's why I said it's

  • 47:11

    different. That's treating you way better than she is. It's way different. We can't They don't ever want to get into that

  • 47:16

    part. No. And you and you can't tell them. You only like it cuz she cooked dinner every night.

  • 47:23

    That's one of the things. Yeah. She cooking up a whole It's cooking up a whole lot more than dinner.

  • 47:32

    They don't like that. I know. I'm getting out of this one. All right. So, listen. Recently, April and

  • 47:38

    Little Fizz have been exposed. Oh my god. I'll tell you later. I didn't catch that one.

  • 47:43

    No, it's fine. Where we at? All right. Uh, so all right. So, uh, we can't talk anymore about the corny [ __ ] stealing your girl cuz all these [ __ ] shut down

  • 47:49

    because of prior experiences. All right. Got it. What you want, man? I told Rory the corny [ __ ] that stole

  • 47:56

    his stole his girl before still be coming to the duce parties. Yeah, but he but he in G

  • 48:01

    and he and he paid and he don't got her no more.

  • 48:07

    Say something. Yo, I was the No, no, I relate to that. I was the body it from GA dude back back

  • 48:14

    in Planet Hollywood days. Look up, try to catch a little gaze. Planet I know. I know that eye contact.

  • 48:21

    Come on, man. in Hollywood. Don't do that, [ __ ] Joe really been outside for a lot

  • 48:27

    of years. You've been naming some sick ass clubs, man. That might have been my favorite New

  • 48:32

    York club. Hollywood, the one right on uh like 49th or some [ __ ] like that. 40 something, whatever that is. When

  • 48:38

    they turned the restaurant [ __ ] about I heard about that. It was right there in Time Square. Rory would have had babies in Planet

  • 48:45

    Hollywood. It was kind of lit. I don't know what happened there, but they ruined all the good club. But anyway, Time Square.

  • 48:50

    Right in time. Right. In Time Square, they moved all of the tables out the restaurant and turned the whole [ __ ]

  • 48:56

    into a club. Oh, like the the Planet of Hollywood restaurant. Yes. But it was a club. Yeah. I remember the Planet of Hollywood

  • 49:02

    in Time Square as like a kid to go to. You was there like 3:00 in the

  • 49:08

    afternoon. We earlier was there at 1:15. Yeah, we was there at 1:15 a.m.

  • 49:13

    I didn't know they did that. Yeah. Doing some nasty things about the Planet Hollywood hoodies.

  • 49:19

    Move those hoodies to the side, fam. That's funny. That's sick.

  • 49:25

    Oh man, I missed that. I'm trying to find some. Come on, Ice

  • 49:30

    Hollywood theme song. Wow. How do you not have it in here?

  • 49:35

    What you looking for? The Planet Hollywood playlist. No, no. I'm looking for little Lost Boys, Lights, Camera, action. That's what I used to get my groove off to you

  • 49:41

    have that in there. I'm supposed to. I don't know what's going on right now. Is that That might have been Cheeks by himself.

  • 49:46

    Oh, no. That would be under lost boys. No, maybe. I think it was Cheeks. Oh, I still don't have it. Anyway, no,

  • 49:52

    it's fine. Uh, where were we? All right. So, corny [ __ ] steal our girls and we're rendered helpless. Nothing we can do about it. [ __ ] It is what it is,

  • 49:58

    man. You just got to go out and be a [ __ ] Yeah. How do you know if you bodying it more than the corny dude? You're [ __ ] more [ __ ]

  • 50:04

    cuz you got to call her and ask her. Well, you know, you know you bodying as soon as she put up a post and used the

  • 50:10

    nail emoji like, "Yeah, this turmoil. They're going through something." And then and then you got like 10 new

  • 50:16

    [ __ ] on your phone. You win, [ __ ] Yeah, that's it. Yo, dudes are sick. Yeah, you got to hurry your way through it.

  • 50:21

    I will say this is actually a perfect transition into Summer Walker. Yeah, I just read something that I

  • 50:27

    didn't even know that was that happened. Well, for for why this is a a good

  • 50:34

    segue through Summer Walker broke up with London on the track. Whatever. I don't care about nothing about that [ __ ] The post the post was single dot

  • 50:42

    lol. Somehow I always end up with a male chauvinist. I'm an alpha female. So I

  • 50:47

    guess when I think for myself or make my own decisions, it's taken as disrespect. Okay, before this goes any further,

  • 50:53

    someone tell me what chauvinist means. What does an alpha female?

  • 50:58

    Alpha female. Oh, don't try to get me in trouble. Nope, I'm not saying it. Leaving Leaving that one alone. Everybody, but I know what it means, but

  • 51:05

    I'm not telling I like I like those type of women, though.

  • 51:10

    I always have. We all do. No, all men don't. I like alphas. I love alpha females.

  • 51:17

    I'll look at that later. Savon always try to do that [ __ ] when I'm in the something. Um, anyways. Yeah,

  • 51:22

    cuz I could just picture uh I'll just look up chauvinist. You guys are great. I said us.

  • 51:28

    That's not helping me. And chauvinist. I think us is in chauvinist. It smells

  • 51:34

    the JBP. Yeah. Where else can you get this content, man? I'm telling you. Nowhere, Joe. You know that. Only here.

  • 51:39

    But I didn't know they broke up. Me either. Sad day. No, like literally right before we started talking.

  • 51:45

    All right. How do you spell show? I knew that was going to be the next question. Got it.

  • 51:50

    Aggressive or exaggerated patriotism. This isn't the real That's the real definition, but it's not how we use it.

  • 51:56

    Oh, you got to go to a person who believes one gender is superior to the other. Misogynistic. Is that what she's saying

  • 52:03

    about London on the track? Yeah, I guess so.

  • 52:09

    All right. All right. So, come on. What else would say, Roy? Man, she said, "Oh, that was cute though. God bless him." He's still a

  • 52:14

    sweet man deep down inside. When a woman says, "God bless, son." She's gone. It's never good. Or when she tries to tell you what you

  • 52:20

    are deep down inside. Yeah, she's gone. Or deeper than that, when a chick says, "That was cute, though."

  • 52:26

    Yeah. Like, don't talk about our union. Don't call our union cute. Yeah. And don't follow that with though.

  • 52:33

    Yeah. That's disrespectful. It's crazy that this I literally said two days ago if

  • 52:38

    they ever break up, she's going to have to like her first album. His name is all over her first album. Every song.

  • 52:44

    Well, well, time out. Since you want to go back to two weeks ago, you said more two weeks ago. Said the same thing a week ago and the same thing today, too.

  • 52:50

    What? You want me to say it? What about Summer? Yeah. You want me to say what you said? Oh, yeah. You can say it.

  • 52:57

    She's not on that list yet, but she's creeping up there. No, she's there for me. She's there.

  • 53:03

    We're already putting her on the mythical box list. I don't know if we could put That's what I did. That's the list I'm talking about. Not yet.

  • 53:09

    No, M's putting her on that. Um, she got that fire. She got fire.

  • 53:16

    You could tell. You can't tell. I started following. I knew it in the first two days. Well, London on the track just surprised Summer Walker with gifts on stage at

  • 53:22

    London show. So, she definitely has that fire. No, that should have been a part of the uh Get Your Girl Back segment.

  • 53:27

    But, but I'm going tell you what's funny about that. Even in him doing that, that's to her point.

  • 53:34

    like more. I know. I know you because it's like you're going out on on on stage while your girl's performing,

  • 53:40

    giving her gifts. It's like in a way you still trying to make it about you. Oh, you're not doing that to me. I tried

  • 53:46

    to stand on that ledge when Offset interrupted Card's performance then that [ __ ] worked.

  • 53:51

    No, I agree with you. Sorry, buddy. But that's different. They have a kid. They was This is just They were just

  • 53:57

    dating. Like they were just dating. Yeah. I did your whole album and

  • 54:03

    I gave you the fire. I gave you the beef that I ain't play for uh Taj and nothing. Yeah, but it's it's easier for it's

  • 54:09

    easier for Summer to be like, I'm cool. That was cute. God bless him deep down. All of that. She can give you all of

  • 54:15

    that with no kid involved cuz she a city girl. Yeah. There you go. And she got that fire. So,

  • 54:20

    all right. So, come on. Who's going to jump out on the ledge and tell the truth about what really went on here? Is it going to be me?

  • 54:26

    Yep. That's the record you playing right now. I don't know where you going with it. So, yes, you do. Push the brakes. What I wrote on the list. I'm I'm a trail. push the break. I might

  • 54:32

    be open, but Summer Summer's ill, man. We got to put some more respect on Summer's name.

  • 54:40

    Grab that classic real quick. Saw the first week numbers and said, "Well, okay.

  • 54:46

    Don't need this guy anymore. Is that how Summer got her [ __ ] off?" Yeah, that's funny. That's funny.

  • 54:54

    All right, I'm going just say it, man. Say it. It was Aubrey.

  • 55:00

    I think it was a text. It was a DM. There was a lot of emojis in that DM.

  • 55:06

    It was a DM that caused a little turmoil. Cuz let's not even let's not even get to Aubry's DM for a minute.

  • 55:11

    Mhm. Let's get to what Summer said. Pull up what Summer said again, please. And London and Drake have a song together.

  • 55:16

    No, no. Pull up the first one. Start from the bottom and let's break it down. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Which I'm sorry.

  • 55:23

    Yeah. Roll down the track. Single. Lol. Stop right there. What that

  • 55:28

    means was, "Oh, this was a surprise to me." Single LOL means, "All right, this

  • 55:34

    wasn't what I was on, but here we go. This this this was abrupt." She continues, "Somehow I

  • 55:41

    always end up with a male chauvinist." Male chauvinist, I'm assuming to mean in this context, someone trying to control

  • 55:48

    me. I get that from her next sentence, which says, "I'm an alpha female." Alpha female, strong, independent. This woman

  • 55:54

    is a leader. you know, all of the all of those good qualities that no stupid [ __ ] can come locked down. So, that's that's what I'm taking from this. So, if

  • 56:01

    I'm to take all of that from this, uh I'm an alpha female, so I guess when I think for myself,

  • 56:08

    [Music] that tells me a conversation was had where someone tried to think for her.

  • 56:14

    Damn. Where someone tried to make a decision that she wasn't agreeable with.

  • 56:20

    Oh, look. Slash make my own decisions. M sounds like somebody tried to decide

  • 56:26

    something for her. Like not to answer DMs perhaps. Here we go. It's taken as drum roll

  • 56:35

    disrespect. Mhm. Come on fellas. Come on.

  • 56:41

    This sounds like Come on. Give it. Come on. Give jump on a ledge. Jump on a ledge with me.

  • 56:47

    This sounds like What could be disrespect? What could be what could be a decision

  • 56:53

    you make for your girl? There's only two things. What instance could happen where your

  • 56:59

    girl would need to tell you she's an alpha? What? Come on, fellas. Well, come on,

  • 57:05

    join the ledge. So, it's only when it comes to respect and disrespect and making own decisions.

  • 57:10

    It's only in a relationship. The only thing it could be would be replying to a Drake deal.

  • 57:15

    Sure. Yeah. Because listen, y'all, I don't want to talk about, "Oh, she finessed. She finessed him out. He He's still getting

  • 57:22

    paid off his album. Of course, I'm sure. Yeah. So, I mean, great. She got a great

  • 57:27

    album done and boy is it a great album, but I don't think the finesse is there. You as a man, I'm talking to all you men

  • 57:34

    listening and there's a lot of male listeners. So, let's go. You have been home

  • 57:44

    and some [ __ ] just start whing out with the emojis to your queen.

  • 57:51

    But that's cool. You know your queen is bad. You ain't tripping. You knew that when you did it. But then your queen may

  • 57:57

    not have responded in the manner to which she may have expressed to you she would respond if that situation came up

  • 58:04

    before. Like thanks lol. Now what the [ __ ] We we we addressed this. How do you think London on the

  • 58:10

    track felt about handing all those fire beats over and then her falling victim to Nah, what the [ __ ] Now what the [ __ ]

  • 58:18

    is Nah, [ __ ] London. Plus a lol. That's

  • 58:24

    tell me I'm lying cuz she handled it like a woman in a relationship. Uh, thanks Aubrey. I appreciate that.

  • 58:30

    Yeah. And that's the end. And Aubrey handled it like a [ __ ] G. Nah. The [ __ ]

  • 58:38

    You made me write two songs. Album. Crazy. Cool. Drake doing what he got to do. Now, how does how should London feel

  • 58:44

    about me inspiring you? Is crazy,

  • 58:51

    [ __ ] I just gave you 55 beats. I inspired it. I inspired the album.

  • 58:56

    [ __ ] out of here. Yeah. Come on, man. Tell me I'm off. Tell me I'm off and I'm forcing content.

  • 59:02

    You're off. But I mean, you're off and you're forcing content. Oh, come on, guys. And that was a lot of And that was a lot

  • 59:07

    of mind-blowing emojis that that Drake used, fam. Like, don't don't tell my girl you blowing her mind that much. Like,

  • 59:13

    yeah. No, you mean? Yo, babe, don't blow no one's mind. Yeah. No, that later.

  • 59:19

    Re blew some minds. And now she can't leave the house anymore.

  • 59:26

    Yo. Yeah. Now, this is a little nuts. Fine. Y'all won't walk to the less. Yeah. So, yeah. So, so, okay. I see. I

  • 59:32

    see the correlation. fam. As London, I already had to sit back and chill when Drake just hopped on

  • 59:38

    a remix on the strength. Yo yoam yo nut. Wait, hold up for a minute. Don't hop on

  • 59:44

    my girl song. They wasn't even together yet. I don't give a [ __ ] That's why this is crazy. It wasn't even

  • 59:51

    Don't hop on, [ __ ] Take yourself off of my girl song then. Nah, not with executive producer.

  • 59:58

    The fam, let somebody hop on Samsung. Honestly, how you think Rory? Come on,

  • 1:00:04

    [ __ ] You know the city. Come on, man. Get burned down. I'm chilling.

  • 1:00:09

    Rory going to make a little plastic bomb and place it somewhere. He got that type of anger. He has a

  • 1:00:14

    trench coat. Y'all going to play with Rory one day and get blew up. That's a fact though. That's actually a fact.

  • 1:00:21

    Yeah. No, don't jump on my girl song, man. No. Nah. Leave real life alone. I feel you.

  • 1:00:27

    He ain't he ain't produced no no no song. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah, I don't think so. As many R&B joints as Drake got.

  • 1:00:33

    Yo, Drake is too ill of a [ __ ] to have ever fallen for the hey, take this 2hour ride to see my mom.

  • 1:00:40

    That box. No, he falling for that. No, he shouldn't. Why? If that box is fire like that.

  • 1:00:47

    Wait, which Drake are we talking? When did you say that? I'm not doing this with you. Just last year. Yeah,

  • 1:00:53

    this is like he's already Drake at this No, I don't take but he has under the George's mom could have met him halfway. 2 hours to your family's house and I'm

  • 1:00:59

    [ __ ] 2 hours is not that long. He says 2 hour 2 hours to get to Brooklyn.

  • 1:01:05

    It takes me 2 hours when there's traffic to get home from here. That's what I'm saying. Like 2 hours is not that long. Yeah, man.

  • 1:01:10

    All right. It's not that long for some box I've done. Yeah. Okay. So now So now Drake and

  • 1:01:15

    we know your Montreal stories. Yeah. Yeah. Drake, he got to get out my bag.

  • 1:01:21

    So now Drake and London got beef. No, I don't know if they got beef. They going to have some words though.

  • 1:01:28

    And then depends on what's said in that conversation. Then it might be beef. Oh man. Right now it's just miso soup. They just

  • 1:01:33

    got miso soup. I wish I could [ __ ] write this. Write the hip-hop book. All the beefs that you guys can't know about.

  • 1:01:39

    That's a reason. There's a reason they should know about it. Joe, come on. Come on.

  • 1:01:45

    Make a head. Give us a little tease. No. No. No. No. No. No. I would never. Shout out to Summer Walker. Shout out to London on

  • 1:01:50

    the track. Really, really, really great album. Shout out to Abby for breaking all that [ __ ] up, man. Yeah. No, seriously. She has a really

  • 1:01:56

    really is so happy that she is single. Look, she has a really amazing I mean album Body of Work. I mean body

  • 1:02:01

    Wait, hold on. She Yo yo yo, her body get work. I mean her body of work is nuts. Yeah, it is.

  • 1:02:06

    She posted that on her page of London going on stage. Yeah. Oh, let's give London some credit, man.

  • 1:02:11

    That's ill. They're back. What's ill? That you could break up. The story is still on IG story and then the the

  • 1:02:17

    makeup is already posted. A mo you done just that fast.

  • 1:02:22

    A hold up. She finessed small. What I do? I ain't do that. Damn. How you fell for the summer finesse,

  • 1:02:27

    son? I'm chilling, man. Oh, man. They made up already. I hate when that happens

  • 1:02:34

    with the breakup still on the story. All right. [ __ ] I'm coping the next.

  • 1:02:40

    That might be a world record. Yeah, that's crazy. She already got the breakup story on on

  • 1:02:45

    the story and you're already on the post kisser and with more emojis always surprising my ass. No, she didn't. you and give him arms

  • 1:02:51

    back on the hug. Don't fall for it. N London said, "Fuck that. Don't fall for it, dude. You got the kiss, though." Nah, the kiss means nothing. Got to give

  • 1:02:57

    arms back on the hug. No, you get the kiss. I'm go. I don't need the hug. If you hug me without arms, you don't mean any of this. And it's a lie.

  • 1:03:03

    Could have been [ __ ] up her makeup. Kiss my mouth. All right. Well, stay tuned to find out.

  • 1:03:08

    That's for sure, buddy. We're We're not going to keep you posted. Uh, no, not at all. Uh, what what would you gentlemen like like to discuss next?

  • 1:03:15

    Come on. Choosy something. Your man Frank gave us some drums. Finally. Yeah, but these wasn't the

  • 1:03:21

    drums. That's not the drums you was waiting on. The villa drums. This wasn't it, man. Damn. [ __ ] with Frank. But but this new song

  • 1:03:28

    DHL, which I think is a shipping company, I believe. So, this ain't it.

  • 1:03:34

    Sh. Frank freaky ass was trying to ship.

  • 1:03:39

    That [ __ ] Frank is a freak. He be using my lines. Yo, I wish I could ship this right to you.

  • 1:03:49

    Stupid

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    react. I didn't hear it. Did you guys hear it? H Did anyone else hear it?

  • 1:04:13

    I heard he starts rapping. I'm not going to play it here because Frank is one of those dudes that Oh, yeah. He'll take himself and sue all

  • 1:04:19

    of you for your whole life and he'll win it. Yeah. So, we can't dislike a song or he'll sue us. Yeah.

  • 1:04:26

    What do you think? Wait, I didn't know this uh this little tidbit from Genius. Uh DHL was a Frank Ocean's first original tracks in 2017

  • 1:04:33

    which debuted at the end of the first uh Blonde Radio episode of the year. Oh, so it's the old song.

  • 1:04:38

    That's what Or is that saying that's worded weird? Who cares, man? Talk about the song. I

  • 1:04:44

    don't want to hear from Genius. I want to hear from you. I already I was the only one that commented on it. I said I didn't like it. I don't think this is the one. I

  • 1:04:49

    think Frank has so much more better music on his hard drive chilling and this is not the way to come back.

  • 1:04:54

    Okay. Such so much more better is not a thing. Don't say it again. Uh Park, you haven't heard you start [ __ ] All

  • 1:05:00

    right. You haven't heard it. He hadn't heard Chance's album, right? Yeah. No, Rory's still get around to it. I really haven't. No, I told you I would

  • 1:05:07

    have to live with it had I heard it. You know what I'm saying? I forgot about you. This guy's a slickster. Mo, what's going on? You

  • 1:05:13

    heard DHL? I did. react. I'm not really uh I don't know. I like

  • 1:05:20

    Frank Ocean. I think this is just him being like, you know, in his artistic

  • 1:05:25

    bag. I can't really say I like it. I can't really say I don't like it yet. Um I'm

  • 1:05:32

    just happy he's putting out music. Can I Can I say that sometimes I I just don't want artists to get in their artsy bag.

  • 1:05:38

    Like I know that's that's a thing in your regular bag. No, you should go off right now about that. This is a real thing. Yeah. Sometimes I just want you to give

  • 1:05:44

    me your great traditional R&B music. And I think Frank I think Frank's one of those like real artsy people, not the

  • 1:05:49

    people that fake to do it as an image. I really that sometimes I just need you to pull it back, come back to earth and just give

  • 1:05:56

    us regular good music. But no, a lot of the times artists feel

  • 1:06:02

    like you want them to give you what they've given us already. And a lot of times real artists will say like that I'm I'm not there mentally

  • 1:06:09

    where I was when I created that. Of course. Of course. I hate when when they do the artsy thing and then everyone's always like, "Oh, no, this

  • 1:06:14

    was his Prince album." I've never liked the this is his Prince album when they try to say that's why it

  • 1:06:19

    wasn't good when it wasn't like Prince at all. Yeah. Right. Yeah. No, they and artists need to stop saying that. Yeah.

  • 1:06:25

    Yeah. I like to uh tip Butterfly. I do get what they mean if they use that analogy though cuz even as the biggest

  • 1:06:31

    Prince fan, you would you're there for that for the change. Yeah. Like you could spot the album.

  • 1:06:38

    Prince fans every they there's a lot of albums that Prince fans don't particularly like but you understand the

  • 1:06:45

    art like sometimes artists do this thing where they want you to come into their world and in their mind and it gets a

  • 1:06:52

    little confusing at times it's like I can't you guys starting so many conversations in my in my mind no but that's how as an artist you

  • 1:06:58

    which way should it be uh should it be as as an artist give us a piece of your mind show us

  • 1:07:05

    some of your your mind but make it to where we can comprehend it because I appreciate those artists that don't waver on the sake of what the fans

  • 1:07:11

    would like to hear. Yeah, me too. No, I like experimental albums, but sometimes you got to come back to

  • 1:07:16

    Yeah, make it to where we can comprehend it. That's all I'm saying. He already gave us experimental with Blonde and the movie

  • 1:07:22

    the other joint album. There's a lot of experiment. I don't And I think that's just our opinion. I don't think that Frank Hive

  • 1:07:27

    would say that Blonde is an experimental album at all. You actually Yeah, you have a point there.

  • 1:07:32

    I think that's they wouldn't say that. But you know, my point my point and I I agree with you guys and this is where it

  • 1:07:39

    just can get a little frustrating because some of the some of the problems that I have with artistry I find in uh

  • 1:07:48

    as Rory would say peak popularity and the same problems for me could exist from both. If you dig too far into your

  • 1:07:56

    artistry bag, you could potentially lose me because it's such a wide range of [ __ ]

  • 1:08:01

    that you dig into. Like Frank is one of those people for me. I clown him a lot in his podcast, but Frank is amazing and

  • 1:08:07

    I really really [ __ ] with him. And I think the type of song he can make is probably only like 3% of artists that

  • 1:08:13

    can make it when he get into that bag. Yeah, for sure. Like it ain't been another Novocane. It ain't been another pyramids. There's a

  • 1:08:19

    few more of those where when he starting and saying, you know what, y'all suck my dick. I'm better than y'all.

  • 1:08:24

    Channel is he gets into that. I don't think that I I me me Frank How

  • 1:08:30

    relax. I'm only talking about me. Y'all love blonde. I do not. For me, he hasn't been in that bag in a while. And I don't

  • 1:08:37

    knock him for it. I just think he his art artistry is so wide. Now, take that same argument for Drake, who I won't get

  • 1:08:45

    into artistry, but his popularity is so wide. Mhm. That he going to get into a whole bunch

  • 1:08:51

    of different bags, and all of those bags may and will not be for me. So, you just lose people that way. I

  • 1:08:58

    don't knock it. I don't knock them that way, but there's a short list of people who

  • 1:09:03

    like I we appreciate Kanye, even with Kanye's gospel album coming right now, which I am not going to listen to. I

  • 1:09:08

    don't care how many uh [ __ ] Kirk Franklin teasers Def Jam puts out. I'm I'm not going to listen to it.

  • 1:09:15

    But boy, do I appreciate the fact that for however many years now, he has given

  • 1:09:21

    us an entirely different album on a whole different wave with a whole different sound without giving a [ __ ]

  • 1:09:26

    about what the fans think about it. Yeah. And and he's been right 97%

  • 1:09:32

    of the time. Uh 70. Yeah. 75. I'll give him whatever whatever the percentage

  • 1:09:37

    whatever the percentage. Yeah. That's still a high percent. That's a very high uh percentage for experimental. I'm not good at math. Whatever.

  • 1:09:42

    Well, I thought about that. I thought about that earlier when it when only top 100 whatever list was running around. I

  • 1:09:47

    was like, damn, we in the playlist area uh uh era. Eventually, they're going to get into uh top playlist acts or top

  • 1:09:55

    discoraphy acts. And is that a battle between Drake and Kanye? Not to dick eat Drake this whole episode cuz I don't

  • 1:10:00

    want to talk about him anymore. But for me is on that. Y'all would put Ross. I don't think he's

  • 1:10:06

    in that one. Kanye be number one for me on that list. Disgraphies. It would be hard to beat solo. Yeah, it's tough to beat Kanye.

  • 1:10:12

    Solo. Yeah. I mean, as as rappers, it would be hard to to to beat Ross as well. For me, when you look at all of his

  • 1:10:19

    albums, like I don't agree with you. I don't know a lot of rappers that have put out consistently good albums and music that

  • 1:10:25

    like Ross has. I'm not letting you get that off no more. Why? Name a Ross album that was trash. I can't. It It doesn't exist.

  • 1:10:32

    Exactly. So that's all I'm saying. He makes consistently good albums. But the same way I that we applaud

  • 1:10:39

    Kanye, and this is just me. I'm not telling you to change your raw steer. The same way that I applaud Kanye for

  • 1:10:45

    the different style album every time out the gate. I'm gonna fault a [ __ ] for

  • 1:10:51

    staying safe. And in Ross's consistency, he is safe.

  • 1:10:56

    That's fair. So yeah. Yes. Wait, we I like that type of music.

  • 1:11:02

    So I like everything that Ross puts out and think it's better than most of the [ __ ] [ __ ] put out. Mhm. But

  • 1:11:07

    what's beautiful to me about the Drakes and the Kanye's and the Jay-Z's and the Dr. Dres and the whoever else I can make

  • 1:11:13

    Kendrick Cole is it don't matter where I'm at. Put me with the backpackers. Put me with the

  • 1:11:20

    street [ __ ] Put me in a festival. Put me in sobbies. Put me with the execs. Put me in in in impoverished towns.

  • 1:11:27

    Anywhere you put me. 50 Cent is probably in this too. I have a song that's going to get this [ __ ] started. TI is probably

  • 1:11:33

    in that too. Like people with Outcast is probably in that too. Definitely in that. Yeah. Ross to me, I could be wrong,

  • 1:11:42

    isn't that he doesn't he doesn't have the song that feeds all

  • 1:11:47

    of these different areas. He's a little bit onedimensional, but he does that one great [ __ ] dimension

  • 1:11:53

    dimension. It is a great [ __ ] I'm going to make a Ross playlist for you. I'm and I'm I'm not going to just use

  • 1:11:59

    just albums. I'm going to go to the mixtape [ __ ] because I think there's some some records on a lot of his mixtape that you may have missed.

  • 1:12:06

    But I got you though. Well, Ross is also that artist for me on in terms of [ __ ] with the most heat that I might have

  • 1:12:12

    missed. Yeah. Because I bump into a new old Ross song

  • 1:12:17

    every 3 years. Yeah. Just one that I missed. He has a lot of songs that I like that I liked and I'm like, "Ah, damn.

  • 1:12:23

    Where I was at for this?" I don't know if I do that with too many other people. He's on that list for me. I think that's partially because his

  • 1:12:29

    sound is kind of the same that some [ __ ] can get lost in the crack. You're like, "Oh, it's just I heard this one." Six

  • 1:12:35

    and seven. It's funny with that that asterk you'd give him about not maybe stepping out of his comfort zone. You

  • 1:12:42

    have to give the credit that that sound has lasted that long. That's true. Like it's nuts that that sound worked

  • 1:12:48

    when he came out in 0 whatever and in 2019 that sound still works.

  • 1:12:53

    I don't think that at all and I totally disagree. I'm I'm not giving him credit for that sound still working because I

  • 1:12:59

    don't think that sound still works. I think he still works with it. But it's his I mean it's his sound.

  • 1:13:05

    I don't and that's why I think he's still And I think that's even doper that he's not following a sound. No, it's super dope. But any of these

  • 1:13:11

    other [ __ ] going to try and I think that says well about you consistently. If you're talking about the Justice League sound, a lot of people have imitated that sound. Yeah.

  • 1:13:18

    Ross owns that that sound. I know people have like But Ross owns that sound. Yeah. Well,

  • 1:13:23

    and he keeps that sound moving. That's why I'm saying you have to still give him credit for his longevity of keeping

  • 1:13:28

    that sound moving. He keeps moving. I think he keeps moving no matter what. Whether you like the sound, you didn't

  • 1:13:34

    like the [ __ ] sound, this is what I'm doing and this is then you going to [ __ ] with it because he does it really well.

  • 1:13:41

    But we probably saying the same thing. I think we're saying the exact same thing right now. I think so. I think so. Two ways uh two

  • 1:13:46

    ways to uh milk a cow. Um not that I I don't want to do any more lists, but I would do a disography list.

  • 1:13:52

    I I would like to do one. That'd be one that I would do. We should do that cuz that's that's the biggest that's on my highest part of

  • 1:13:58

    what I look at artists. Like what is it? What's the music you're putting out? too. That would be a really interesting.

  • 1:14:05

    That would be an interesting ghost. I would read that. Very high. Ghost is high. Ghost is real high. Super.

  • 1:14:10

    Shut up. Y'all don't say that about anything. Ghost. Well, we love Ghost. All his albums be dope. I know. We do. Yeah, but I know. But

  • 1:14:15

    does that mean that you're high in that list? He would be high in the solo discoraphy list. Yes, absolutely.

  • 1:14:21

    I agree. I agree with Parks. Oh, is that the list we were doing? I'm sorry. So, we're just discussing just who has a great discoraphy

  • 1:14:29

    talking about? Yes. That's not fair. Everybody has a great discoraphy. That's not even true. What

  • 1:14:35

    compared to the names we were bringing up like Kanye? Yeah. I guess I would need to hear the criteria. That's That's what I'm saying.

  • 1:14:41

    The most good albums. Yeah. No, cuz then I'm saying the same thing that I just said for our Royce

  • 1:14:47

    conversation. Well, that's what Mo was saying. And I'm not saying that about Ghost Face, by the way. I'm just saying how

  • 1:14:52

    would you grade what's number one just because we like dope cataloges?

  • 1:14:58

    Yeah, I'm tired of lists. Wait, we didn't even get into the Rolling Stone top 100. You want to get

  • 1:15:05

    into that right this second or you want to wait? I mean, we can it'll I was going to say it be quick, but now I know us. We'll

  • 1:15:11

    see. Is this a list with greatest singers? Yes. I saw Elvis Presley number three and I stopped reading

  • 1:15:16

    yet another one that shows that you don't have to scroll. Just a list with that after that.

  • 1:15:21

    I didn't read any. Yo, yo, this that list reminded me, man. White people, man. Every week I wanted

  • 1:15:27

    white people and Drake and Jay-Z are the three topics I try to avoid every week and somehow I just can't do. Yo, white

  • 1:15:34

    people and y'all's [ __ ] blasphemous ranking of Bob Dylan. I'm tired of it.

  • 1:15:40

    Bob, come on. But he's on the top on a singer list. Singer list. Absolutely.

  • 1:15:46

    Writer list. Sure. Yeah. Writer list 100%. Bob singing but I'm not putting him in the top any Where was he at?

  • 1:15:52

    He was like three. Oh no. That's crazy. Fine. I'm going to just say it. This is

  • 1:15:58

    not [ __ ] the most racially sensitive thing to say, but I'm going to say it in lie of this [ __ ] list with Bob Dylan

  • 1:16:04

    and Elvis Presley. White people, y'all don't sing better than us.

  • 1:16:09

    That's fine to say. That's But I thought that that was like a fact. That's a fact. It's not a fact.

  • 1:16:15

    It's not a fact. Enough of you guys in your white guilt. It's not a fact. They put Look at the list. No, my

  • 1:16:21

    biggest issue was the Whitney ranking. Where 29 or some [ __ ] Yeah, it's No, it's insane.

  • 1:16:26

    Pull the list back up. Let's go to the list. The Whitney rank where they got Mary J. Blah at

  • 1:16:31

    at 100 behind Stevie Nicks. Look where Patty Leel is at. Stevie Nick.

  • 1:16:37

    I love Stevie Nicks. But come on, Stevie Nicks. Bro, they got Patty Leel at number 95.

  • 1:16:44

    You telling me there's 94 people that have walked this planet? This brings Stephen Tyler's 99 and Stephen Tyler is

  • 1:16:49

    a way better singer than the other white people that you know. That's very true. They have Kurt Cobain at 45 and he was

  • 1:16:54

    too stressed to even live to see the rest of this [ __ ] They got Bobby Blue at 44,

  • 1:17:04

    fam. Bruce Springsteen is 36. This is a sick ass list, man. Uh

  • 1:17:10

    this is just like a slightly I know this is this is why this is why people blasphemy. John Lennon writer

  • 1:17:16

    list super high. Yeah. Singer list. No, not that high. He's not number five. No.

  • 1:17:22

    And let Hey, and let me stop even is 15. He's a better singer than John. Way better singer than John Lennon.

  • 1:17:29

    Let me not even Hey, I don't even want to pay too much attention to where the white people have ranked white people. That's y'all business. That's none of my

  • 1:17:34

    business here. White people, let me tell you. Has a great voice. White people listen to this. Hear me and

  • 1:17:40

    hear me good. Freddy Mercury is Freddy Mercury come on doesn't go 18.

  • 1:17:45

    You don't even know how to judge white people. Singer list. They don't even know how to judge their

  • 1:17:50

    own people. Damn. Cuz Freddy Mercury is way higher than Bob Dylan, John Lennon, and

  • 1:17:57

    Paul McCartney lost the vocal battle and his girl to Mike.

  • 1:18:06

    This is a sick list. Yeah, this is crazy. Well, this brings me back to your your vibe rapper thing.

  • 1:18:11

    When you say singer, I'm thinking vocalist. They got Willie Nelson at 88. Man, listen. Willie is better.

  • 1:18:17

    If this is a weed a best weed contest, I'm sure Will Willie is high. On another

  • 1:18:23

    podcast, I'll tell you about some of your favorite rappers that have the most trash weed in the universe. For real.

  • 1:18:28

    It's a thing. [ __ ] have gone on tour and borrowed weed from [ __ ] in their respective cities. Man, I'm judging some

  • 1:18:34

    of you [ __ ] man. Y'all, you can't hand somebody backyard like a favorite

  • 1:18:39

    like crazy like on a handoff like if you don't get this [ __ ] out of get

  • 1:18:44

    arrested for this. You're not getting I'm about to arrest you for this junior [ __ ] Yeah. Yeah. No, it's craziness out there. Uh let's see.

  • 1:18:51

    At least we have Wilson Picket ranked prop. They have Sly Stone at 70. All right,

  • 1:18:57

    man. Yeah, they big boy. This this this is uh they got Kurt Cobain over Patty Leel is

  • 1:19:02

    all I'm going to say. I am I'm not judging white people properly. That's the problem I have.

  • 1:19:07

    I'm with you, Parks. Like, if you're going to be racially skewed and off, at least do that, right?

  • 1:19:12

    Jesus. But I don't know if they'd be in Listen, quiet has kept Christina Aguilera at 58.

  • 1:19:18

    She's better than damn near half the first 30 of white people that they have ranked there. And white people, listen to this. Hey,

  • 1:19:25

    uh, [ __ ] Light FM sold me on Rod Stewart as well, but guess what? Guess what, Jack? Light FM.

  • 1:19:31

    No, for real, Rod. Cuz Rod got joints. He got joints. Rod is one of the white people that I always [ __ ] with. Sting is not on this list.

  • 1:19:39

    Wow. Yeah, but white people don't [ __ ] with Sting, man. That's Sting is ours. How you don't [ __ ] with I don't care who

  • 1:19:44

    you how you don't have Sting on the top one. Come on, man. That's crazy. Cuz this is crazy. Sting is ours. Mo,

  • 1:19:50

    what? How you don't have You got Bobby Blue. Why you didn't [ __ ] with Sting, man?

  • 1:19:55

    Bobby Blue has slaps. But Sting didn't, no doubt. That's crazy. This thing is top 100

  • 1:20:03

    list. This is just bad. It's a bad list. But that's what list is for. Art Garfield.

  • 1:20:08

    Whoever had a good list. Yeah. Don't disrespect that. Pause.

  • 1:20:16

    What' you say? Huh? What? I What I say? You know why people wasn't going to claim? They want nothing to do with how

  • 1:20:21

    Juice World made that song. They suing his ass now, ain't they? They

  • 1:20:27

    made too much. Give it back, [ __ ]

  • 1:20:39

    Oh yeah. Y know. Sting is ours, man. Don't do that.

  • 1:20:47

    The the white people have the police. Oh, that's what they that's what they separated out of. Sting like we took Sting.

  • 1:20:52

    Okay. Tom Weights is on this list. You heard Tom Weight sing.

  • 1:20:58

    Who's on his list? Tom Weights. I don't know if you ever heard Tom Weights. He did one of those wire intros. The one where it sounds like a dude that smokes

  • 1:21:04

    7,000 cigarettes. That's kind of his swag though. Is that Yeah, they got Donnie Hathaway at 49 and he

  • 1:21:11

    might he might be one of the best singers I've ever heard. Top 10 at least.

  • 1:21:16

    Smokey Robinson is 20. Oh, let the hook get off. Hold up. Look at number 97. [Music] [Laughter]

  • 1:21:26

    Wait, what are y'all laughing at? Look at Look at number 97. How did they fam? They didn't do that.

  • 1:21:34

    That's Kaka, right? Yes. Joe Kaka was nice. Yeah, he was nice. Joe Kaka was nice, [ __ ] I

  • 1:21:39

    higher than 97. Why they blocked his name? Wait, why his name can't he spelled out? Stupid.

  • 1:21:45

    That's hilarious. Axel Rose at 64. Y'all got Joe Cocker [ __ ] up. Sting ain't up here though. That's

  • 1:21:51

    That's crazy. Y'all got Joe Cocker [ __ ] up. Hold up, man. I'm just saying they want game out.

  • 1:21:57

    That's all we laughing at the edit. And this ain't even his joint where he w

  • 1:22:02

    Hey,

  • 1:22:11

    how you name this song woman to woman [ __ ] vibes. Hard ass [ __ ] All right. Uh, white

  • 1:22:19

    people, man, leave a list to us where where they put me at three. That's who should have done this.

  • 1:22:24

    Stop all lists. Nah, we got to do more. Johnny Cash does not sing better than Prince.

  • 1:22:30

    Absolutely not. This whole list is wrong. We'll end on that. Yeah, we'll end there. Um, what else do

  • 1:22:36

    we need to get uh get into in our what was our uh tank Frank and what? Tank Frank and beans. Tank Frank and summer.

  • 1:22:42

    Summer. We hit We hit the summer and we hit the Frank. Time for the tank. I don't think we really hit the Frank.

  • 1:22:48

    Pause. Yes. Pause. Okay. But I don't think we really hit the Frank. You want to hit the Frank?

  • 1:22:55

    Like what's Frank doing? Chilling. Just shipping things apparently. Yeah. Open the gay bar. Apparently

  • 1:23:02

    he's making money off that. I get why he put this song out. And then he put out uh him and uh him

  • 1:23:08

    and Sango put out a remix to uh Cayendo.

  • 1:23:13

    I think I missed that. I missed that one, too. Okay. It's that now that was the track that I previewed last podcast.

  • 1:23:20

    Oh, okay. It was that and he put it out and it was cool. It was cool. Well, that sounded dope. the snippet that you play. Uh, it was better than better than this

  • 1:23:27

    in my opinion. I just didn't ask Frank to bring the drums back and then start rapping.

  • 1:23:32

    I listen Frank song where he raps. I don't want to hear Frank rap.

  • 1:23:38

    I don't think I like any I I don't know if I know any Frank rap songs. I remember he was on an Odd Future cipher

  • 1:23:43

    where there was like 600 of them rapping. Oh, that was a song. That was the outro of their album. No, I need Frank to cru to me about what

  • 1:23:49

    these [ __ ] be doing, man. That's what that's what I need from Frank. I don't need bars about it.

  • 1:23:55

    Blue Whale was a good rap record again, but you probably had heard that. No, missed that one.

  • 1:24:03

    Just telling you a good rap record of his. These are the new song he has. These are

  • 1:24:09

    the lyrics. [ __ ] think it's new. It ain't new, boy.

  • 1:24:15

    Old flies just turned two. Yeah, it flew. Yeah. Still sound like it's coming soon. Coming soon. Yeah. Still sound

  • 1:24:22

    like it's coming soon. Tell the truth. Yeah. Boy toy suck me like a hoover. Like a hoover. Boy toy rock me like a

  • 1:24:28

    Uber. Like a All right, I'm not reading no more. N you was getting your [ __ ]

  • 1:24:34

    No, you was about to start killing. The funny [ __ ] is that's the second verse.

  • 1:24:41

    That was a second verse bag. That wasn't even what he was on.

  • 1:24:47

    Oh, Frank wants a [ __ ] to ride him like a Uber. Look how he getting it off in his first verse, though. Look, look

  • 1:24:53

    what Frank was getting into. Look at them shakes. Make up a dance. Oh, that's my [ __ ] too. How come you

  • 1:24:59

    shook? Hey, when I ain't took out my hands. Hey, bean. Starbucks truck [ __ ] coming soon.

  • 1:25:07

    That's cuz you suck. See, you made me call a girl over here, [ __ ] Get out.

  • 1:25:15

    Suck me. Suck me. Suck me. Suck me. All right. I know. That's what I told you. Yeah, that's what I told you. You got to take me into

  • 1:25:21

    reading this first verse for you. No, I'm cool. I'm cool. I got it. It's all first verse right there. I got it. Don't you worry about it. It's

  • 1:25:27

    all first verse. So recently, Lil Fizz and April were spotted out together.

  • 1:25:33

    And I'm not getting into that right now. Oh, I'm not going from Frank to Tank. No, no, no. Good segway. I see what

  • 1:25:39

    y'all trying to do. Segue, man. All right. What is the segway? Well, you say you segue it then. No, I put in parenthesis on on my list

  • 1:25:46

    that Mole would lead this topic. Take it away, Maul. Nah, we don't want that. We want to be

  • 1:25:51

    back Saturday. Tank is making headlines today after saying that a man performing fellatio on

  • 1:25:57

    another man does not make him gay. If it's a one-time thing, it's for experience.

  • 1:26:03

    That's it. Thoughts? He's right.

  • 1:26:11

    Yeah. If girls can uh experiment, then well in this in this caption, he then

  • 1:26:16

    said the second time he could just be going back to see if maybe he he was wrong. Maybe he maybe he liked it.

  • 1:26:24

    I'm I'm not indulging in this conversation, but what I will say is part of the rule of being gay is you

  • 1:26:29

    have to like what you're doing. That's true. That's true. I don't think that once or twice makes

  • 1:26:34

    you gay. If you're running around and you are not enjoying it, then you're just weird.

  • 1:26:41

    No, Joe. They could be confused. I'm trying to listen before I react. So, I just want to hear all of your thoughts on Well, we're moving on to basketball talk

  • 1:26:48

    before you react. So, Zion is out for six to eight weeks.

  • 1:26:53

    So, y'all tell me can can his body sustain the weight? So, y'all telling me that if a dude lets

  • 1:27:00

    another dude give him head that if it's only a one time thing that doesn't make him gay? if he was experimenting. I

  • 1:27:06

    think that I think to be gay you have to uh subscribe to being gay. You have to commit.

  • 1:27:13

    Like I don't think you're just gay if you decide that this was not for me. Okay.

  • 1:27:20

    Okay. Listen man, Zion at this weight is the heaviest player.

  • 1:27:27

    You can't dunk like that and expect his knees to carry up. Do you think Do you think his career is

  • 1:27:33

    in jeopardy? He's got to get down to about 60. Screaming. Come on. Give us Zion.

  • 1:27:40

    M is pondering. Yeah. Jesus. Uh, no. No, no. Hey, the Pelican, what do you think their record will be in the

  • 1:27:47

    interim? I'm just trying to figure Will Alvin Gentry keep it together? I'm just trying to figure out what's going on in this.

  • 1:27:52

    I'm asking Zion, man. I mean, hit it, Jack.

  • 1:28:04

    Turn me up in the headphones. This my new outstanding man. Give me hype. Is that the loudest volume? That's it.

  • 1:28:10

    You got to talk to the engineer, sir. Damn. Can I get some more? Is the C parks Yo, your backpack suspended.

  • 1:28:17

    It is. Is Run DMC backpack? Yeah. I mean, no.

  • 1:28:22

    No. Yeah.

  • 1:28:34

    All right. And if it isn't, you can turn off. I'm hyped now.

  • 1:28:39

    They got you in your You ready? I can't wait till Posi Cups come back.

  • 1:28:45

    Word. I'll be honest with y'all. It's only a few [ __ ] trying to hold it down. But when Posi cuts come back,

  • 1:28:51

    Run DMC Run the MC got a few of the hardest Posi Cut beats ever. That's in my opinion. Down with the Kings is one

  • 1:28:57

    of them. When was the last real positive cut? There's been some positive cuts [ __ ] that uh just Skyoo.

  • 1:29:03

    Yeah, we just Yeah, that's what I was thinking about. Yeah, that was really good. Yeah, that was really good.

  • 1:29:09

    All right. Um All right. So, what do we have to get into uh right this second? I

  • 1:29:14

    had a whole list of things to get into. That's why I played Down with the Kings. We on tour. What's We were the Kings. All right. Yes, we

  • 1:29:19

    are on tour. Wait a minute. Goddamn. Now, I will shoot you the feared one. I

  • 1:29:24

    will shoot you the fear one ice. I would have [ __ ] fought you, [ __ ] All right, so we are back. We are back

  • 1:29:31

    by popular popular demand. Come on, Rory. Sell tickets for us.

  • 1:29:38

    This is y'all back. No, musically. December 6th, love award tour.

  • 1:29:43

    Oh, so I got the wrong date. December 7th, the JBP is in be more.

  • 1:29:53

    Yeah, that's right. works. December 8th, taking it down the pike.

  • 1:29:59

    Up the pike, I think. Really? But yeah, up from [Applause]

  • 1:30:05

    [Music] Cut it off, Rory. Cut it off, Rory. If

  • 1:30:11

    you let the first line play, we got to let the whole thing play. Cut it off. Cut it off. Cut it off. Cut it off. You can't let him say You can't let him say

  • 1:30:16

    we still hustle till the sun comes up. Crack a 40 when the sun comes up. We got to keep going then. Uh, December 8th, Philadelphia, like

  • 1:30:24

    Rory just [ __ ] told you guys. And December

  • 1:30:30

    19th,

  • 1:30:36

    back home, New York City, the JBP is on the road. Tickets available now at Ticketmaster. Uh, again, like I've said

  • 1:30:42

    for the last eight podcast, really excited cuz these are three cities all the way with the shits. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for being with the shits.

  • 1:30:48

    Uh, we couldn't do this without you guys. We appreciate you guys and hopefully you come out and we have a really, really, really good time uh at

  • 1:30:55

    some of these dates. If you are in a city where the date has not been announced, don't fret.

  • 1:31:01

    More dates are coming. And when I say more dates are coming, it's different from when [ __ ] announce a tour and

  • 1:31:07

    haven't convinced the other cities to give them a date yet. And they say more cities coming while they negotiate with

  • 1:31:13

    other cities. No, that's not what we're doing. We have the offers from the other cities. They are in and they are

  • 1:31:19

    respectable. So, we will be in London soon, I'm sure. We will be in Toronto soon, I'm sure. Seattle, I know y'all

  • 1:31:25

    are mad at me, so I'm not gonna say nothing, but it's happening. New Orleans,

  • 1:31:30

    got to do New Orleans. Little low on the offer, but boy, do we love Gumbo. Yeah. Yeah. We might just take a vacation.

  • 1:31:37

    Yeah, I'm cool. Couple days. Yeah. Let's cover the hotel, please. Raise the offer, though.

  • 1:31:43

    Um, where else? Just a few more places that uh that we will be. a few places that we have not been yet. Listen, our our our Asian informed me to

  • 1:31:50

    be prepared to live on the road and don't do that. And Binner and Benner, don't do that. Don't do that. And Benner as well that we will be

  • 1:31:57

    living on the road in 2020. Oh, good thing I don't have a home phone number.

  • 1:32:04

    [Music] Joe's an idiot. Yo, y'all going to stop sleeping on my

  • 1:32:10

    ability to take this thing to the next level. Okay, my corniness helps. Oh,

  • 1:32:15

    these other podcasters won't They won't get corny. You're right. They won't get corny. Some of them are just that way. They're not like doing it

  • 1:32:22

    for content. I feel like my corny has some appeal. I don't mean like the real like And you're not actually You do it to be

  • 1:32:27

    funny. You're not really like corn. You're like corn on the cob. So, it's a different like people like corn on the cob more

  • 1:32:32

    than they like just scattered corn. You don't like cream corn. Scattered corn. Corn in a can.

  • 1:32:38

    I love cream corn. Yeah. No, cream corn. White people did that, right? Oh, you know, white people cream everything.

  • 1:32:44

    I'm white. Hey yo, they cream the spinach, too, right? Yeah, I'm sure. Yeah. Yo, y'all got to start giving white people their credit.

  • 1:32:49

    You like cream spinach? Yeah, I do. Okay. I was going to say cream. You do?

  • 1:32:55

    It's the [ __ ] I like salt taste. And one day, one of my mama boyfriends came over, sprinkled some cheese in the cream corn, melted it a little bit. I

  • 1:33:02

    was like, "Why you dump that nigga?" What's What's his number?

  • 1:33:07

    Let me call my mom. Why you dump that [ __ ]

  • 1:33:12

    See, look at my some more cheese spinach.

  • 1:33:18

    Yo, look at me taking this thing to the next level right now. Cora goes good together, man.

  • 1:33:23

    One day y'all got to come in and call your mom's, man. I'm scared to call mom. She going to be doing crazy.

  • 1:33:28

    Hello. Hey, ma. Hi. It's Joe Button from the Joe Button podcast. How you doing?

  • 1:33:35

    Well, hello. How are you? We are great. M Rory and Park send their

  • 1:33:41

    regards. Hey, Ma. Hold on. What's up, Mama Fay? Hi. So, now we All right.

  • 1:33:48

    So, listen. Somehow we bumped into a conversation about uh who invented cream

  • 1:33:54

    corn and cream spinach, right? And Maul informs me that white people invented

  • 1:33:59

    putting cream in everything. Mhm. And I said, "Well, that can't be true cuz I really enjoy cream corn and cream

  • 1:34:06

    spinach." And then I exposed some of your business after that. My mom's used to have this boyfriend that used to come

  • 1:34:11

    over and put some cheese inside the cream corn and and melt it. And boy, that [ __ ] was great. And I was mad when

  • 1:34:17

    you dumped him. Now, now do you remember that? Of course.

  • 1:34:22

    Who was that? Lewis. Lewis. Joe won his number.

  • 1:34:28

    That [ __ ] was good. Yeah. He looked like Calvin Lart. Real tall. And all right.

  • 1:34:38

    He was 16. And you leave my mom alone. M. You can't shoot your shot on the podcast. We still

  • 1:34:44

    know Lewis. Where Louis at? Well, he's pretty sick right now, but um he did come and clean the apartment

  • 1:34:50

    before we moved in. Oh man. Oh, you blew that. He cleaned the apartment and he cooked

  • 1:34:56

    food for us. That is where the corn with the cheese came from. Yeah.

  • 1:35:02

    Oh man. Prayers for Louiswis, man. 100% prayers for Louiswis. And we'll finish telling my mom and how she

  • 1:35:09

    let him go after this, man. I didn't Hey, I ain't tasted cream corn that good since, ma.

  • 1:35:14

    But I mean, he wasn't like a real boyfriend, you know. All right. All right. Thank you, ma.

  • 1:35:20

    I'll call you later. Goodbye. You know, that was her side. You know

  • 1:35:26

    what I'm saying? It's a little side. No one ever wants to hear that.

  • 1:35:31

    Who was there? [ __ ] was coming through cooking for my mom's and me. She ain't

  • 1:35:38

    get little man plateon and scream man. Don't do that. I see you peeking through the kitchen, [ __ ]

  • 1:35:45

    My body's right. That [ __ ] made little man a plate. Yep. Get little man a plate.

  • 1:35:50

    What's your name? You was little man. And Joe was probably like 25 at that time.

  • 1:35:59

    All right. Call your mom, [ __ ] Exactly. What's up?

  • 1:36:04

    Rory Savon. Huh? Nope. For sure. Got one of them Louises

  • 1:36:10

    for sure. One of those Louis [ __ ] mom got what? What's the white What's a white dude Louis? Cuz it would

  • 1:36:15

    have been Tom got some Toms out there. Look, mom still know what's up with

  • 1:36:21

    Louiswis, too. Sick right now. Clean the apartment and all that. Oh, my mom's a

  • 1:36:26

    G. Make them [ __ ] make me dinner. That's some funny [ __ ]

  • 1:36:32

    All right. All right. Where where were we? All right. Sean Connory is a nasty, naughty man, man. Actually, I don't even

  • 1:36:38

    know if that's an accurate depiction of Shan Connory. No. Now, I know many of you like me saw Rising Sun. Loved it. Wesley Snipes.

  • 1:36:45

    Great flick. They're making they're making us get rid of all those dudes, man.

  • 1:36:50

    Finding Forester. What was Shoot? The Rock. He was Bond for a while.

  • 1:36:55

    He was B. He's the original Bond, I believe. Sean Connory is the white uh the white

  • 1:37:00

    Morgan Freeman. Yeah. Like he's been he's been a hundred for 100 years, too. I don't think he's been in the movie in

  • 1:37:06

    like two or three decades. Cuz of Morgan Freeman. Get out of here. Yeah, it's true. Well, we already got you already. We got

  • 1:37:11

    black you. Oh, now I had no idea that this occurred. So Rory brought this to my

  • 1:37:17

    attention. This No, you brought it to mine. I had not a clue, buddy. Oh, this is some of the mall news. This

  • 1:37:24

    would be mall news. I just thought that it was great, man. And it was just I don't know if yo your mom's definitely had her side

  • 1:37:29

    dude bring you to school a few times to school. No, cuz I went to private school. We had a school bus pick us up.

  • 1:37:34

    He brought you to the bus stop a few times. No, it came to my building. And you was like, get the [ __ ] out of you ain't my dad.

  • 1:37:40

    School bus came to my building. All right. One of y'all in here have screamed, "Fuck out of here. You're not my dad." So, come

  • 1:37:48

    clean. Yeah. Little [ __ ] screaming. All right. [ __ ] out of here. You ain't my daddy.

  • 1:37:54

    All right. Nobody will tell me. Yeah. All right. Sean, don't worry. We It definitely Rory, too.

  • 1:38:00

    Rory looks like Rory Ligit. Get away from [ __ ] What's your mom? Debbie,

  • 1:38:07

    get off of Debbie. Not my dad. Get your filthy hands off of her name is

  • 1:38:13

    not Debbie. Get your filthy hands off my mom. And he was crying, too.

  • 1:38:19

    He was definitely crying. Oh, my mom was lacing [ __ ] out there, [ __ ] Make this corn. Get over here.

  • 1:38:26

    I'm home at 8. Make this [ __ ] call and pick up the cheese. For real. That's right. All right, bro. What are

  • 1:38:31

    we saying about Shan Connory? Well, I was letting y'all know about the clip that had resurfaced from an

  • 1:38:38

    interview that Shan Connory had with Barbara Walters back in the 80s, and I just thought it was crazy that it just

  • 1:38:44

    resurfaced for whatever reason. Shan Connory has been off the acting scene for some years now.

  • 1:38:50

    Seen Shan Connory movies since Yeah, I didn't I thought it was pretty weird. And I don't know how we missed this interview, but here's the clip

  • 1:38:57

    in which you said it's not the worst thing to slap a woman now and then. As I remember, you said you don't do it with a clenched fist.

  • 1:39:03

    It's better to do it with an open hand. Turn off. Turn off. Start it over. We here at the JBP do not agree with any of

  • 1:39:11

    this [ __ ] that Sean Connory is about to say. I feel like I need to qualify and preface the clip. That's how nasty

  • 1:39:18

    the clip is. Yeah. So, we need to let you guys know. Brace yourselves

  • 1:39:24

    for sheer and utter nastiness. Yeah. From Shan Connory. Yeah. This was it. It was weird because

  • 1:39:32

    if this was something that an actor would have said in this time, we would have known about this immediately. This

  • 1:39:38

    is from 87. This is weird. He gave these bars to Barbara. Yeah.

  • 1:39:43

    That was that was the person that sat down with back then was Barbara Walters. But she was the original. She was the

  • 1:39:49

    original pull up that she made the pull up. She made the original pull up. Come on. Me. Me and Charlamagne copying uh Barbara Walter. Come on, man.

  • 1:39:56

    Not the worst thing to slap a woman now and then. As I remember, you said you don't do it with a clenched fist. It's better to do it with an open hand.

  • 1:40:03

    Yeah. Remember that? I didn't love that. Haven't changed my opinion.

  • 1:40:08

    You haven't? No, not at all. You think it's good to slap a woman? No, I don't think it's good. You don't think it's bad?

  • 1:40:14

    I don't think it's that bad. I think that it depends entirely on the circumstances and if it merits it. Yeah.

  • 1:40:20

    What would merit it? Well, if you have tried everything else and women are pretty good at this. They

  • 1:40:27

    can't leave it alone. Yeah. They don't they want to have the the last word and you give them the laugh last word, but

  • 1:40:34

    they're not happy with the last word. They want to say it again and and get into a really provocative

  • 1:40:41

    situation. Then

  • 1:40:46

    I think it's absolutely right. Oh, what was Did we slap?

  • 1:40:52

    No, that that was the editing. She went to say something again and they was trying to be funny. Not like that was the worst part of

  • 1:40:58

    that. Yeah, that was definitely not the them editing the clapping. I didn't even [ __ ] I was that was the least uh most uh

  • 1:41:05

    foul part of that one. I thought he was like acting it out. No, no, it was just funny. Funny. They

  • 1:41:12

    try to be funny. What's I even sicker? I think Sean Connory thinks he's like being really liberal in that situation. Like, no, I'm

  • 1:41:18

    telling you that. Oh, yeah. I would never punch her in the I would just open his facial expressions was he didn't

  • 1:41:24

    understand why Barbara was so confused. He thought he thought he was being like really progressive about the whole thing. Yeah. He was like he he said it was a

  • 1:41:29

    provocative. I'll tell you one thing. You will not get a rising sun part two.

  • 1:41:35

    Yeah. It's over for the hunt for Red October. Yeah. I hope hope they found it. If not, oh well.

  • 1:41:40

    Yeah. That that hunt is a doozy, buddy. Yeah, that's sick [ __ ]

  • 1:41:48

    Sorry. Props to barber for keeping it going though, cuz she was super offended. Oh, off rip. Yeah.

  • 1:41:54

    Yeah. She said, "Oh," she said, "You didn't know. You remember that?" He said, "Yeah, I remember." Yeah. Like kind of thought he was going

  • 1:41:59

    to clean up. She thought she had Sean in a in a in a tight. All right. So, that's my question to you guys. The answer is no. As you as an

  • 1:42:07

    interviewer, No, I'm off of Sean. creep. But as an interviewer, you don't we normally applaud when interviewers are

  • 1:42:15

    able to step aside their personal feelings about the subject and continue the interview.

  • 1:42:20

    Yeah. Yeah. So then why don't we applaud Charlemagne for what he did in the Gucci Mane

  • 1:42:25

    interview? Well, we were talking about him doing it. We weren't talking about his how he conducted the interview. Yeah, but him doing it. That's what I'm

  • 1:42:32

    saying. Like he did it in spite of his personal feelings about the matter. So

  • 1:42:38

    why do we big it up in one case and and not do so in the other? No, it wasn't it wasn't because it's

  • 1:42:43

    different. His one of his co-host weird comparison has a problem has a has a personal issue

  • 1:42:48

    with the guy that was supposed to come on the show and obviously she said she didn't want to do it. So then Envy sided

  • 1:42:53

    with with with an Charlotte at that point it's like both of my co-hosts don't want to do this. So, at that

  • 1:43:00

    point, it's kind of you got to just kind of hit Gucci like, "Yo, listen, my coaches don't want to do it. Like, we just can't, you know, I mean, we can't

  • 1:43:06

    do it. Like, I [ __ ] with you. I understand you and an have your thing. I was hoping that we could all sit down and and and talk about it, but she's not

  • 1:43:13

    at that at that point where she's willing to sit down and speak publicly with you right now." That's all like that's that's just what I feel like he

  • 1:43:20

    should. Now, again, we understand why he didn't do it, but it is what it is. I mean, it a week from now, nobody won't

  • 1:43:27

    be talking about this. a day from uh Sean Connory or Gucci.

  • 1:43:33

    What the the Charlemagne thing? And I mean, we've been 30 something years since we we just seen this clip. So,

  • 1:43:39

    nobody's definitely not talking about the Shan Connory thing. And Sean Connory is 89 years old now. He's he's an old man. It's nobody's

  • 1:43:45

    really like they're not going to they're going to cancel a 89 year old man right now. Yeah. That hasn't that hasn't been on the

  • 1:43:50

    scene. Is that some type of thinking that's from where wherever he's from? Like Oh, yeah. Well, well, he's 89. We know

  • 1:43:57

    what the world was like 89 years ago. Is he literally 89? Yeah, Sean Conor is 89.

  • 1:44:04

    Yeah, 89 years ago ain't that long ago. I'll be 40, man. Yeah. I mean, it was [ __ ] never want to have the

  • 1:44:10

    conversation of what the world was really like like 90 years ago. Like what the world was like 20 years ago? 60 years ago. 50 40

  • 1:44:16

    10 years ago. 20 years ago. What was bad 10 years ago? Chill. I was out. No, not that things were bad, but that's

  • 1:44:23

    how old you were. It wasn't even that was 10 years old at that point. It was out then.

  • 1:44:28

    True. But it wasn't like It's still out. Come on, my [ __ ] You seen You got sir. Don't do that. That was more than 10 years ago.

  • 1:44:34

    You seen it. You seen it. Come on. You seen it. Yeah. They keep showing it every every Halloween. That's my point. Why Why you think that

  • 1:44:40

    is? Pump it up clip at the end. Come on, man. So much drama in the JBP.

  • 1:44:46

    It's kind of hard being big on between two P's.

  • 1:44:51

    How kicked your ass, man. S would have kicked your ass, man.

  • 1:44:56

    Yo, speaking of, man, let me dicky for a little bit. Boy, am I waiting on a new Sai album. Yeah,

  • 1:45:01

    man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Anytime I get in my my hip-hop vibes and I and I put Sai's old [ __ ] on and I start to reckon

  • 1:45:08

    back to when that was out, what was that? 2016, 2017, something like that. We about to be about to be 2020. That's

  • 1:45:15

    three years. Let's get it. I'm ready. Me and the homie um was just talking about if Saha

  • 1:45:20

    puts out another good album like this last one was we going to have to start having a different discussion about Sah when it comes to rap.

  • 1:45:26

    Why you say that two albums? Those people are only not just two albums but it's as a rapper

  • 1:45:31

    he has to start being talked about more if he has another good album after that last one he just put out.

  • 1:45:37

    It's not true. It's not true and I won't allow you to say it. Why? There's rappers that's being talked about more than him that don't have one good album.

  • 1:45:43

    Because the people that know what Sihai can do are already discussing Sai, right? Yeah. I'm saying the mass is about to

  • 1:45:49

    start talking about and that's what I'm about to get into. The knock on Sihai is his mainstream

  • 1:45:55

    appeal and his mainstream record making ability. And those are two knocks that exist with

  • 1:46:02

    mostly damn near every lyrical miracle [ __ ] out there. So, so when you say if his next album is to the on par with his

  • 1:46:09

    last album, I challenge that that won't introduce a new conversation for the people that you are saying need to

  • 1:46:15

    acknowledge Sihai. He's written on hit records. That's what I would say. He's written for some of the biggest mainstream artists.

  • 1:46:20

    It means nothing to me. You got to own it. But he that's what I'm saying. We have you have to do it. But it's our but yeah, but it's also our

  • 1:46:26

    job as consumers and listeners to the music that we have to start talking about these artists that are writing and

  • 1:46:32

    making dope records. Like just because he's not the clickable artist and you don't rush to click his name when you

  • 1:46:37

    see Sahi. N you [ __ ] got to find a way to cut through the noise. Yes, you're right. Mo, we have we have to start talking

  • 1:46:43

    about them more. We have to start judging [ __ ] on all of the abilities that you just named. But I'm also judging [ __ ] on their

  • 1:46:49

    ability to adapt to whatever time that they're in. Uh recently there's a clip uh that TI put out talking about he

  • 1:46:55

    hates he hates [ __ ] that uh want to come up them and spit freestyles. And while I while a lot of fans may not

  • 1:47:01

    understand that, most rappers most rappers feel that way. Like the best you can spit the best freestyle in the

  • 1:47:06

    world, to me it's not going to mean [ __ ] What type of record can you make? Is it good? Where can it go? What's the

  • 1:47:12

    potential? What makes Yeah. What makes me invest my [ __ ] income in you. If we really going to get into it, man, I

  • 1:47:18

    keep saying for years, one day we'll have a management conversation. But like for me as a manager to put my entire day

  • 1:47:25

    into an artist and only get 20% if that back, boy, do I have to believe in you.

  • 1:47:30

    I don't believe in none of you [ __ ] like that. That's me. And it's like, "Oh, Joe, why you want manage artist?" Cuz I hate

  • 1:47:37

    artists. And I could also I'm not devoting my whole [ __ ] day.

  • 1:47:42

    I'm not devoting my whole day to you [ __ ] self-centered artists who's all about you for 20%.

  • 1:47:51

    I mean the main thing in my eyes or at least when I'm looking at artists is if they're not willing to work like if

  • 1:47:56

    you're not going to work like I work. Yeah. But the response to that from artists is normally

  • 1:48:03

    uh the manager has the you don't have to work like I work because the manager has the ability to manage x amount of

  • 1:48:08

    artists. The artist is one artist. You can only have one manager for the most part.

  • 1:48:13

    So that's normally the retort that I hear in return. I don't care. Yeah. I that means that means nothing to

  • 1:48:20

    me at all. If I got five artists, I expect them five artists to be on my jack damn near 24 hours a day. And

  • 1:48:26

    that's going to be annoying. I don't believe in five [ __ ] like that. Some of you are a money grab.

  • 1:48:35

    Don't be quiet now. I was about to say when it comes to believing in an artist, I can believe you can make amazing music and I can

  • 1:48:41

    like it, but I know that what I love is not the appeal of what the masses is. And being a manager is to make money. is

  • 1:48:47

    to push your artist to another level so both of you can eat. I feel you. But

  • 1:48:53

    that's that's a really tough position to be in. No, I think that if you believe in someone, you can find a way to make them

  • 1:49:00

    money. Not the type of money I'm thinking if I'm getting a small percentage of how I

  • 1:49:05

    would eat off that too. You still have to think for yourself. I understand what you're saying. every every artist that that raps like side

  • 1:49:11

    like every artist can't be a tech n where you rap in that type of way and draw that amount of income without the

  • 1:49:17

    masses loving your music. The difference is the work. Yeah. But I mean tech the difference is

  • 1:49:23

    whoever the [ __ ] is uh in the background uh co-signing you. For every tech there's a Travis. For every pusher

  • 1:49:29

    there's a Steve Victor. For every like the list goes on and on. Once you start getting to the people that don't have

  • 1:49:34

    that person behind them, hey I slaughter house, then the conversation goes and I

  • 1:49:40

    can Eminem's oh please please don't do this right now. Um sure but sure I can say that

  • 1:49:46

    like and that's the same thing. So it's like yes tech is amazing but more importantly managers need to to to

  • 1:49:55

    understand the climate and understand the the the industry and if you have an artist that you think is not going to

  • 1:50:01

    fit in what's going on today you need to be honest with your artist like yo listen you you don't really make the music for this climate you know

  • 1:50:08

    that doesn't matter always cuz you if you're a good manager you'll find a way to make them fit in or find a way for

  • 1:50:14

    them to make viable money sources i.e. TV placements or video game placements

  • 1:50:19

    or writing around their weak suit. But then again, if I like the

  • 1:50:24

    music, that doesn't mean that that's going to work. Like it it can I am not the end all be my taste is not

  • 1:50:30

    and I'm aware my taste is not what usually generates money. Keep it a buck. But there's a lot you just said you said

  • 1:50:36

    a lot just now. As a manager, it's not my job to [ __ ] with what your style

  • 1:50:41

    whose music tastes your style dictates or not. I'm talking about even just getting to the point of wanting to manage somebody.

  • 1:50:47

    That's that's the bigger conversation actually. That's the step I'm at is do I even want to do it.

  • 1:50:52

    Most artists that are looking for managers do not need managers because there's nothing to manage. That is a fact.

  • 1:50:58

    Just because you are talented does not mean you need a manager. It means you need to work and then when you get to a

  • 1:51:04

    certain level and you don't need to move to LA either. I mean it might help depending on where you live. It's the same thing as a man. It's the

  • 1:51:10

    same same theory as a man. The time you get a man when you should get a manager is when you need a manager.

  • 1:51:15

    When you move to LA is when work dictates you move to LA the same work dictates you.

  • 1:51:21

    If you live in a place where you can't get it popping on any level as someone who in the middle of upstate New York in

  • 1:51:26

    a small town very small town. No such thing as that. I'm I'm on a I'm on the small market team side of the

  • 1:51:32

    NBA for sure. Now but if you live in a city with 20,000 people and there's no venues that you can even perform hiphop.

  • 1:51:38

    So, how are you going to build up an audience now with the internet? Of course, it's a little bit different, but it

  • 1:51:45

    still isn't. You still need No, it's not. Cuz you still need real [ __ ] people. Likes on Instagram don't necessarily

  • 1:51:51

    equate to real fans that are purchasing your career. Wait, you you are you are introducing

  • 1:51:57

    Instagram likes into this conversation. I am not. All I am saying is you could be from a small town,

  • 1:52:04

    albeit what what did you say? 20,000 in population, right? and build a strong not only uh

  • 1:52:10

    recording career but touring career outside of performing in your town. It's rare and difficult. And that's a lot of rare and difficult.

  • 1:52:20

    It's both things. I don't I don't think it's rare. I think it's definitely difficult but so is

  • 1:52:25

    making it in music period. No doubt. But of the people that have made it in music period, most of them migrated to a big city at some point

  • 1:52:33

    fairly early in their career. I don't know where a lot of these young kids are from because I don't care to

  • 1:52:38

    pay attention enough, but I don't think they're all from major markets. But they Parks's point would be proven

  • 1:52:44

    wrong simply from where all the rappers are from today. Like today, there's a

  • 1:52:49

    huge scene in Memphis that us New Yorkers may not have not huge city, big, very big city.

  • 1:52:55

    Memphis, it's for sure more than 20,000, much more than 20,000,

  • 1:53:00

    oh that I guess half a million people is a very, very, very

  • 1:53:05

    Gibbs. He's from Gary, Indiana. That's my point. That's Chicago. Is it really?

  • 1:53:11

    Yes. No, Gary Indiana is not Chicago. Yes, it is. It's a We've been to Gary Indiana. A half hour south of Chicago.

  • 1:53:17

    That's not fair. Parks, that is fair. He could go to Chicago right there and get it popping. But it's not his hometown and he's not

  • 1:53:22

    from there, bro. It's right there. If you're from a half hour away, you're from

  • 1:53:28

    That's like saying you're from Jersey City. But you're right there. But that's not fair because I was from

  • 1:53:34

    Jersey City. You got it popping. Not true, but I fought all the fights of being from Jersey City. It didn't matter

  • 1:53:41

    that New York was right there. So Freddy G from Gary. It did matter though because you were able to connect with a lot of New York

  • 1:53:47

    MC's. You were able to connect with Fab. You were able to connect with Stack Bundles. Rest in peace. You were able to connect with Clue.

  • 1:53:52

    Yo, those were off relationships, not due to those relationship. You can't get those relationships if you don't.

  • 1:53:57

    That's not fair. We got a relationship with Trev Rich. He's from [ __ ] Denver. Denver's also a big city. But we

  • 1:54:02

    have a relationship with him in New Jersey even though we're all the way over here. So all I'm saying is today

  • 1:54:09

    that's what I'm saying. We can't keep having a proximity conversation in an internet conversation.

  • 1:54:14

    It doesn't change everything cuz you still do need to get real fans in buildings. No, you don't. Yeah, you kind of do.

  • 1:54:20

    You don't you don't need some streams, huh? Need some stream farms. And I agree with you know, you need real

  • 1:54:26

    fans from real fans. But it's easier to real fans from the internet, though. And that's part that's part of my argument

  • 1:54:31

    with y'all going back to why I said it's easier to get on today. But there's a lot of successful that

  • 1:54:38

    cannot tour and make real money. There's a lot of successful records,

  • 1:54:44

    people that have successful records, hit records, platinum records, and whatever. In streaming, that does not equal income

  • 1:54:49

    that you can live off of, let alone a manager. Respon and let me respond to that. How many people with one song can establish

  • 1:54:56

    a successful touring base off one song? But some people have got the successful

  • 1:55:01

    song off building a fan base gradually that turned out to be exponentially large fan base.

  • 1:55:07

    Talking about like a whiz Mac Miller. Yeah. People that grinded it out until they got to platinum logic.

  • 1:55:12

    Not someone that just did a record in the crib and went out and got put on a nice playlist and got

  • 1:55:18

    it popping and can't go out and do a tour. Can't do a show. You have to get real people at some

  • 1:55:24

    point and I I think you could still get that from the internet to some degree. I want to argue with Park some more. A lot of

  • 1:55:30

    these new kids uh have an established

  • 1:55:36

    uh festival [ __ ] uh appearance rate. Now they take the pictures and they put

  • 1:55:42

    them on Instagram and it's a whole lot of people at the festival. It's lights out when they they make noise when you tell them to make some noise. They your

  • 1:55:48

    [ __ ] fans. They're not your fans. So when you say [ __ ] got to stab, no they

  • 1:55:54

    don't today cuz it's 90 million festivals and [ __ ] could festival hop and we'll never have a real gauge on who

  • 1:56:01

    is whose fan base at all. We just got to judge [ __ ] like we and the [ __ ] that are not afforded those uh festival spots

  • 1:56:09

    every day. But in festival era, which is where hip-hop is now, I think you can

  • 1:56:14

    get a really successful uh tour going on without the public having any idea what

  • 1:56:20

    your actual hard ticket fan base is like. One of one of the biggest artists in the

  • 1:56:25

    industry right now, Cardi. Yeah. Has real fans. She had real fans before she made a record.

  • 1:56:30

    But not from music though. Yeah. So that's what I'm saying. You don't She was She was popular and people loved her

  • 1:56:35

    because I don't like that neither. You're right. But you know why I don't like that? Because today, it don't need to be from

  • 1:56:41

    music. It don't need to be from whatever you think your strong suit is. The indicator today is can you get a fan?

  • 1:56:47

    Can you hit a lick? Can you get one person to look? I don't care. They Well, not me. They don't care what they trying to get

  • 1:56:54

    you to look at. They don't care what they selling you. They don't care what fool they making on themsel. I hate to say that day after we [ __ ] did our

  • 1:57:00

    office uh campaign [ __ ] but it's fine. Uh that's what that we we knew that going into it. everybody. And and this this is

  • 1:57:05

    the sad truth that we probably uh address every day on this every day on this podcast for the last 5 years.

  • 1:57:12

    Most of the musicians have stopped selling you music a long time ago. Yeah. That ain't what they're getting. That's

  • 1:57:19

    not what they're using to attract you. So yeah, I agree. Pause. It's not sustainable. But

  • 1:57:24

    I don't know if the kids is even trying to figure out is sustainable even go back to where

  • 1:57:30

    you're from if that's the case. cuz I agree with you that they're not really selling music. They're selling moments. They're selling things that's going to

  • 1:57:36

    bring you back to their page and then sell some music somehow. But what does that have to do with now? Now the the the game now is can you

  • 1:57:43

    sell anything? And Parks made me mad all over again. That's the game now. Point that I was trying to make you have

  • 1:57:49

    to work. You have to work. Oh, no. That's bottom line. You have to work. But it's easier now to work.

  • 1:57:54

    You I'm thinking about Yeah, it is if you do it right. But there's a lot of people It's way easier now to work. Way easier. I'm just thinking about

  • 1:58:00

    if you can't get money in this era, you're never going to get money. That's the bottom line. I mean, compared to past eras, there's more money.

  • 1:58:06

    If you can't get money in this era, you're never going to get money. No, it's all the money in here. Yeah. It's all money in here now.

  • 1:58:11

    Mhm. Um, let's get off this cuz parts maybe mad. I don't want to get mad. What else? What else do we need to discuss here?

  • 1:58:17

    Uh, Molly Mo was was kind of whing over in Vegas and not not Molly Mo.

  • 1:58:24

    Ah, I haven't done anything. You Molly Mo. Molly Maul from Vegas has

  • 1:58:31

    been arrested for running an illegal sex prostitution ring uh for the last 10

  • 1:58:38

    years. This is what the article said. Isn't prostitution legal in Vegas? I think so.

  • 1:58:43

    Yeah, but it cannot be. It can't be if you got arrested. Well, if it's legal, but it's still under certain guidelines,

  • 1:58:49

    right? And I think with illegal prostitution business now women

  • 1:58:55

    can prostitute in Vegas. She has to uh abide by certain health laws like they have to

  • 1:59:02

    walk with health cards to make sure they're getting tested and things like that. But I think what they're saying was is he had a business which means he

  • 1:59:09

    probably wasn't paying taxes. He probably you know it's paperwork. His paperwork wasn't together. That's what

  • 1:59:14

    this sounds like. It's taxes. Yeah. That's all. Pretty much what it comes down to. Right. So Uncle Sam didn't get his. That's all. Yeah. Sentencing hearing for the

  • 1:59:20

    prostitution charges are scheduled for January 21st, 2020.

  • 1:59:29

    All right. All right. Listen, as a [ __ ] that has been in the strip club and tried to bag one of the

  • 1:59:36

    escorts that maybe wasn't allowed to come out and play that night, I I get it, man.

  • 1:59:44

    Okay, that's what I got. Unless y'all going to chime in with an escort story. No.

  • 1:59:50

    The escort store, right? I don't have 25. I'm the only one trying. You do.

  • 1:59:56

    You do. And you get a discount. What's up? I didn't win the choosy challenge. I give you a discount right now. What's up? I didn't win the choosy challenge.

  • 2:00:02

    All right. But now that I get set, I'm I'm saying I'll give you a discount. What's up? What's the discount? You got the little card with the hole

  • 2:00:07

    punches in it. Uh first time

  • 2:00:13

    first time free for your white friend. No thanks. You don't want that one? No, I'm cool. Look,

  • 2:00:18

    you don't want that. You don't want the first time free for my wife. He gave you the group for the [ __ ] I don't want the first time free for the

  • 2:00:24

    black friend. Nah, they don't do the black friend for free, right? White white privilege.

  • 2:00:29

    White privilege everywhere. Black black [ __ ] got to pay. Again, black [ __ ] Nah, fam. You got to pay.

  • 2:00:35

    Okay, off of that, let's talk about black privilege for a little bit. Ray J has been gifted the rights to Suge

  • 2:00:42

    Knight's life rights. He was gifted or he purchased them? No, I think it was

  • 2:00:47

    No, it was gifted. It didn't say anything about a purchase. And this is off the dome right now. I'm freestyling.

  • 2:00:52

    That's a hell of a gift. But uh we got more clarification today. It says that Nick Cannon was uh handed

  • 2:00:59

    the rights to Sug Knight's book deal. He's writing the book. So, it says I

  • 2:01:05

    think Ray J is responsible for the actual movie that is being produced. Uh, and there's somebody else involved in

  • 2:01:12

    another part of this that I don't remember because it just wasn't that important to me. Um,

  • 2:01:17

    that's a comeup. Yeah, I'm watching the Sug Knight bio this

  • 2:01:24

    whole [ __ ] streaming everything era. We were all watching it if done correctly. Uh, I don't think there's

  • 2:01:30

    much to report on this. Ray J and Sug Knight have had a relationship for a mighty long time.

  • 2:01:36

    U, and for me again, I don't know anything. I'm just off the dome here. It sounds like this is a way for Suge to

  • 2:01:42

    not relinquish control while he's inside. You know, it sounds like he's still able to dictate some things. And

  • 2:01:48

    who better to do that with than Ray J. Not saying that uh there's some type of extortion thing going on. I'm saying

  • 2:01:53

    that Ray J and him are friends. They have a relationship. Uh and I can see that uh being a reason why that was

  • 2:01:58

    done. Same thing with Nick Cannon actually. Uh I think these are two people that Suge Knight respects. Uh I think

  • 2:02:03

    and the relationship is already do. Yeah, the relationship is built. I think that he wants his story to be not only be told but to be told the correct way.

  • 2:02:10

    Uh so and we're all going to watch it. Yeah. And that's what I got there. U off of

  • 2:02:16

    that. M said something earlier. R M said that Ray J has one of the most interesting lives that we've ever seen

  • 2:02:21

    in hip-hop history. And I'm inclined to agree. Absolutely. I agree. Yeah. We don't talk about Ray J enough.

  • 2:02:27

    He has a he's done and lived to see a lot of like weird but interesting things

  • 2:02:34

    in this culture. So you really responsible for a lot before the SH biopic.

  • 2:02:40

    I mean Ray J he changed uh the reality TV world. Yeah.

  • 2:02:45

    Um he's been involved in a lot of nice deals with electronics and and things

  • 2:02:51

    like that. Imagine if he would have got a cut of the Kardashian empire. Yeah. Like imagine if Ray J would would

  • 2:02:56

    have been active or had his music come out now like originally in this streaming era. He would definitely be

  • 2:03:03

    one of the biggest artists in the world. And more importantly than all that [ __ ] you naming,

  • 2:03:09

    Ray J made a song called Girlfriend, telling Bobby Brown why his wife was his

  • 2:03:14

    girlfriend. Yeah. He said it's crazy.

  • 2:03:20

    Say at the top of the track, it's crazy. He met your girl.

  • 2:03:26

    Mhm. He text your girl. Don't tell me.

  • 2:03:32

    Nah, cuz she he give you the large picture. He giving you the larger picture. I'm going to shoot you. All right.

  • 2:03:38

    Give me the large picture. Don't Don't sing to me that you met my girl, you text my girl, you sex my girl,

  • 2:03:43

    and she loved it. Yeah. N cuz when my girl come back to me like she don't she don't talk to me like she

  • 2:03:50

    loved it. Yeah. Like she keep it on a low. She try to respect me a little bit. Here you come cruning. Yeah.

  • 2:03:56

    He let you know the vibrations. She loved it.

  • 2:04:05

    [Music] N was he was caressing her.

  • 2:04:10

    Yeah. Don't caress my girl. Oh, that mean both of them was doing it. Yeah, she was down.

  • 2:04:16

    Oh, that's equal opportunity rubbing. Yeah, she was down. How I'm going to rub my queen after that?

  • 2:04:24

    Oh god. Don't tell me you have a special connection. He going too far now. You got to fight this [ __ ] man.

  • 2:04:29

    A special connection. It's like, fam, relax. It gets worse. You You [ __ ] her. You [ __ ] You got

  • 2:04:35

    a connection. [Music]

  • 2:04:50

    This a dis wait that's a disrespectful [ __ ] man.

  • 2:04:57

    Yo fam, I will knock you the [ __ ] Don't Don't Don't suggest to me how I'll sleep better. Yeah, drop your pen, my [ __ ] Don't

  • 2:05:03

    tell me. Don't tell me what I could do to get some more Z's at night. Yeah. Yeah. That's why you could sleep better now that you know

  • 2:05:09

    it. You going to sleep real good. The long sleep, [ __ ] cuz I'm pulling right now. Yeah.

  • 2:05:22

    Yeah. No, it's over. Yeah. Come on, man. Ray J's wild. But then

  • 2:05:28

    yo, Ray Yo. Yo, I enough man. I just decided, man. I'm gifting Ray the rights to the Joe button by

  • 2:05:34

    Yo Ray J man. Yo, do my life right. This [ __ ] is the king.

  • 2:05:40

    Yeah, keep telling I had Ray J's number at some point. He would be the perfect [ __ ] to call.

  • 2:05:46

    Ray J if we don't talk about it. You could sleep better now that you know it. That mean that homeboy was searching for

  • 2:05:51

    the info. He couldn't find it. Yeah. Then heard it on Wax. And Ray J's little uh his little his little beef with Fab

  • 2:05:57

    was like one of the most classic. I was about to say he's here a top 10 radio moment. That [ __ ] was so weird. I was like, "What is going on right now?"

  • 2:06:04

    Scooters look fire, too. Oh yeah. Know the scooty bikes whipping on those. Yeah, we need some JBP scooters.

  • 2:06:09

    Don't be affectionate to my girl, man. I'm not off of that one. No, she just need to She need to be rubbed a little different. That's all.

  • 2:06:16

    [ __ ] [ __ ] hated on my rub. Yeah, you know, but he don't massage you. Oh, he ain't doing it right. I love

  • 2:06:21

    you talking about massages. Ray is a wild dude. And didn't Ray wasn't he into that whole porn scene for a minute, too?

  • 2:06:28

    I'm I'm sure he made one pretty successful. That mean he coming through through doing the Bob backarious.

  • 2:06:35

    Yeah, they got they got a nice deal for that. He only has the most successful porn of all time. Yeah, they got a nice deal for

  • 2:06:40

    Oh, and speaking of today is Jeff Goldlum's birthday, so let's not hate. Let's We have space now.

  • 2:06:46

    I don't want to fight, man. I'm just acknowledging birthday. He's got an album coming out, too. This is just You missed it. And I didn't pay

  • 2:06:53

    attention. He sent you the stems. All the mixes would have been [ __ ] up in the stems. Well, I can't wait to listen to [ __ ]

  • 2:06:59

    Look at him in the in the cash when Jeff put out [ __ ] in the parks.

  • 2:07:04

    Yeah. Come on, man. You already know what's going on. RJ boyfriend featuring [ __ ] Jeff over

  • 2:07:11

    here. Wow. He going right at parks in his caption, too. I see it.

  • 2:07:19

    Yo, this [ __ ] need to get clapped, assassinated. I keep listen more of that type of [ __ ]

  • 2:07:25

    though in his life where it's like, wait, what? He got away with that. Yeah. Yo, one day we going to talk about just

  • 2:07:31

    how many of you [ __ ] out there is [ __ ] through herpes with these Instagram models. Cuz y'all are [ __ ] through herpes.

  • 2:07:37

    Y'all know good and goddamn well that she got herpes. And y'all are [ __ ] through it. That's crazy. And you can [ __ ] through it. And most of

  • 2:07:42

    these [ __ ] are [ __ ] through the herpes. They are. That's a wild uh [ __ ] it moment.

  • 2:07:47

    I'm glad I'm I'm going to not even take that information. I didn't know you could [ __ ] through herpes and I'm going to keep it that way.

  • 2:07:53

    I didn't know you could do that. I mean, you can't. How do you [ __ ] through herpes? You wait till it goes away.

  • 2:08:00

    All right. You doing like a full investigation every time, right? Getting down there with the flashlight app.

  • 2:08:05

    Yeah, the flashlight app. Take your phone. Turn around. Come on.

  • 2:08:11

    Spread them. I'm just saying this conversation is hard to avoid once you start playing connect the dots with the herps. is like, "Wait, you've been with Oh, when

  • 2:08:17

    you've been wait [Laughter] a second, buddies.

  • 2:08:23

    You all got They all got the hurt. You [ __ ] is nasty promoting singles.

  • 2:08:29

    What? All right, come on. Let's get off of this nasty heathens." Uh oh. Van Van

  • 2:08:37

    Lean. Van Lean. Van Lean. Friend of the show. Friend of the show. Our guy Van Le. Let me get the air one for Van Lean.

  • 2:08:49

    Uh, Van was fired. Damn, Van. Allegedly, cuz I haven't spoken to

  • 2:08:55

    anyone from TMZ. I haven't spoken to Van. I haven't spoken to anyone at all. I just read a report on uh page six of

  • 2:09:01

    the post. It said Van Leon has been fired for uh arguing with his coworker

  • 2:09:06

    Michael Babcock. Uh he put his hand around Michael Babcock's throat

  • 2:09:12

    before the TMZ firing. Uh it's said to be a political argument. We know where uh Van stands on a few things. Uh this

  • 2:09:19

    article said that Michael uh beat [ __ ] or whatever homeboy Cockboy's name is. Babcock. They said that he uh leans a

  • 2:09:27

    little bit to the left. I mean, not to left, to the right, to the right, to the right, to the right. Yeah. Uh and those are all the details I have.

  • 2:09:34

    Uh wait, what? He said he leans a little bit to the right. He's a conser he's a conservative to the

  • 2:09:39

    right. He's conservative. if him and Van were having a conversation on TMZ. Some [ __ ] got heated. Something happened that

  • 2:09:46

    I'm not at liberty to divulge. Not that I know it. Uh that part was edited out of whatever went out on TMZ. And behind

  • 2:09:53

    the scenes, uh conversations were had and Van Lean was indeed fired from TMZ.

  • 2:09:58

    That's all I have there. Uh and I don't feel I don't feel bad about it. Get the [ __ ] away from those nasty ass [ __ ]

  • 2:10:04

    over there, man. It's nasty over there. And and bigger than that, let me not use this opportunity to send shots uh at places,

  • 2:10:10

    but bigger than this is Van was well on his way out of TMZ anyway. The public

  • 2:10:18

    may not know that. Yeah. And bigger than that, and this is where God is just ill. Van might not have

  • 2:10:25

    known that. Mhm. Like we can make all the plans for ourselves that we want. Yes. We know

  • 2:10:31

    where Van stands politically. We know where he stands on social injustices. We saw him stand up in the office to Kanye

  • 2:10:37

    West. Uh, none of that changes that you worked for

  • 2:10:43

    TMZ and TMZ is TMZ with TMZ views and

  • 2:10:48

    ideologies and at some point if you keep yourself in a certain work environment,

  • 2:10:54

    you will clash with that environment. Yeah. Uh, so I don't need to know what happened here to know what happened

  • 2:10:59

    here. Uh, what I will say is that I'm sure this is a part of Van Lean's fate

  • 2:11:05

    and destiny. And sometimes God will help you make a move that you maybe weren't

  • 2:11:10

    ready to make yourself. Again, not saying that he wasn't, but I've spoken to Van for a little bit and he's been

  • 2:11:16

    prepped. He He's been well prepped to get far far the [ __ ] away from TMZ and

  • 2:11:21

    he doesn't sound like someone that's aloof to what they stand for, what they represent, and how they're perceived by

  • 2:11:27

    the viewing public. I do not think that Van Lean is losing any sleep behind

  • 2:11:32

    this. I'm almost more than certain that a few people at TMZ are probably losing sleep behind this. Uh very nasty

  • 2:11:41

    situation, but like I told Van, oh wait, I didn't speak to Van. Uh I don't think

  • 2:11:46

    that Van will be without a job for very long. No, it'll be not at all. And when you find yourself in that instance, when you

  • 2:11:52

    get fired and you know that your credentials and your resume will speak for itself at some point, all there is

  • 2:11:57

    for you to do is not soak in misery, but to enjoy your couple of [ __ ] weeks or months off.

  • 2:12:03

    Mhm. Yeah. Cuz it won't last long. Uh so our prayers are with Van. We stand with Van.

  • 2:12:10

    I don't know what token black guy they're gonna get to [ __ ] uh represent TMZ, but I just think it's

  • 2:12:15

    funny how I had to find out about this [ __ ] from uh Page Six Post. Page Six Post. I had to find out about

  • 2:12:23

    some drama with TMZ. Very different from all of the other black

  • 2:12:31

    drama that y'all choose to report on and put dead smack in the middle of my face.

  • 2:12:37

    Yeah. They wanted to edit [ __ ] out. [ __ ] can't talk about it.

  • 2:12:44

    Of course you can. It's [ __ ] TMZ. U major media [ __ ] conglomerate here.

  • 2:12:49

    Mhm. You got to deal with them, which which is cool, but I don't have to see them

  • 2:12:55

    with my good friend Van at their side representing them anymore. Boy, am I happy about that. Hate to be happy about

  • 2:13:01

    another nigga's downfall. I love Van and if it worse comes worse comes to worse, Van, I'll hire you my damn self. But boy

  • 2:13:06

    am I happy you're away from TMZ. I am. I'm in a gunshot for that.

  • 2:13:16

    I just don't know how they're going to even counterweight the nastiness over there now cuz Van was like the only voice of reason that would bring them

  • 2:13:22

    back. Yeah. And mad of the situations. And I know I know the Kanye one was the

  • 2:13:28

    famous one, but Van does that a lot. Good luck. Not just with that. Good luck trying to get me to give a [ __ ] about what Miley Cyrus is doing

  • 2:13:35

    now, buddy. I I'll tell you that one. Sorry, TMZ. Y'all was already on a

  • 2:13:40

    little short list for me just because I don't like how y'all move out there. It's nasty. It feels nasty. Y'all y'all

  • 2:13:45

    every time I forget, y'all are quick to remind me that y'all are not really for us. Y'all are not really for us. And

  • 2:13:52

    while Vance firing kind of brings me back to my firing from Complex and why I

  • 2:13:57

    was so happy that there was a black dude that owned his own network there for me to speak to as soon as I left. It's

  • 2:14:03

    important for your own to have their own so they could get it. So they could

  • 2:14:08

    understand. So you could be free to kind of be yourself, have the liberty to do

  • 2:14:13

    what you want to do. Not necessarily do what you want, but to kind of just be of your own in the workplace.

  • 2:14:20

    [ __ ] up that Van was not afforded that after nine or however many years at TMZ.

  • 2:14:26

    But again, Van, I don't want to harp on harp on this. You have our unwavering support. You have all of our love and

  • 2:14:33

    anything you need, job included. We are a phone call or text away.

  • 2:14:40

    That is all that Joe has to say about Van Lean and TMZ. If anyone else wants

  • 2:14:45

    to chime in, please feel free. Use your platform respons. No, Van know what it is, man. You know, we support him. That's my guy. Um, he'll

  • 2:14:52

    be all right. Like you said, this isn't this isn't the last stop for Van. Plenty opportunities waiting for him. Like you

  • 2:14:58

    said, his resume definitely speaks for itself. And um again, this is a this this is a blessing stand up guy.

  • 2:15:05

    Yeah. He may not see it now, but this is a blessing and he'll look back at at this a year from now and and you know,

  • 2:15:12

    he'll be doing bigger and better things than TMZ. Well, like Van is already ported. He's not losing any sleep. And trust trust

  • 2:15:17

    him, he is doing perfectly fine. That was from his his mouth, his own admission, right?

  • 2:15:23

    Yeah, man. Uh what else is important? Uh I have a couple tidbits, but not a

  • 2:15:29

    lot. [Applause] Nas is saying he doesn't want to

  • 2:15:36

    celebrate ilmatic anymore. Say that one more time for me. Nas doesn't want to people to celebrate ilatic anymore.

  • 2:15:41

    All right. Why not? Because he doesn't own it. Oh, that could have he didn't say that

  • 2:15:48

    specifically, but that could No, he he didn't say that, but I would assume that that is the reason why this

  • 2:15:53

    makes sense. He say he's worked on over 10 albums to celebrate the same one is corny to him. Listen, Nas has found Nas

  • 2:16:00

    has found his fortune and ownership. Yeah. So, how do you think he feels looking back at probably his best his best or

  • 2:16:07

    greatest project and his most revered and seeing the fans uh seeing the fans

  • 2:16:12

    celebrated the way they do with Sony uh Sony owning the project.

  • 2:16:17

    No, I get it. Makes sense now. Now that you said that, put it like that in the search and they've been doing [ __ ] I feel like every year it's another 22nd

  • 2:16:24

    anniversary. They do a lot 27th. But that's why him saying is corny is like I get it.

  • 2:16:29

    Yeah. And as he should. As he should. I get it. What else is important? Parks. Uh the people that died in DR died of

  • 2:16:36

    natural causes. They all happened to die. Let's say natural cause.

  • 2:16:41

    Healthy young people. That's what the report. That's what the report say. Something happened to me. Something happened to me. Don't natural report me

  • 2:16:47

    to death. Godamn it. They sold fake liquor. So uh a bunch of bodies died around the time some political [ __ ] was

  • 2:16:54

    happening and they can't report on any of it. Knock it off. And you guys got to be really careful. Let me say that because people end up

  • 2:16:59

    being booked and busy and traveling to other places. Be clear that if you die on foreign soil, man, those rules switch

  • 2:17:07

    up. The laws change. It's big money to ship your ass back to your loved ones.

  • 2:17:14

    The hospitals over there, I'm not saying over there anywhere in particular. I'm just saying you go away, be ready for

  • 2:17:21

    some [ __ ] Nobody ever plans on death. Just know the economic state of the country. Yeah.

  • 2:17:26

    Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. That's the point. So, I don't believe one [ __ ] [ __ ] lick of what they're saying over here. Yeah, that's fair. Uh, Michael Jordan

  • 2:17:33

    says that Steph Curry does not belong in the Hall of Fame. Mike. Yo, man. One of these years y'all

  • 2:17:39

    are going to [ __ ] get Mike out of here. For what? Because if there was internet around

  • 2:17:44

    when Michael Jordan was playing, y'all would have got him out of here. That's probably true. Mike was kind of wild. And Mo knows that, too. But he won't say

  • 2:17:50

    that right now, so we can move on. No, Mike Mike was Mike was definitely wild. I tell you all the time, the flu game wasn't no flu at all.

  • 2:17:56

    That was that was the least of it. These kids wouldn't wouldn't rever Mike so much if they knew a little bit.

  • 2:18:03

    Yeah. I mean, off the court. Yes. But on the court, I think that if Mike was able to have Instagram clips of him working

  • 2:18:09

    out and when do they ever only judge you from the field that you're best at? Of course, they would look at him off the court.

  • 2:18:15

    Yeah. But, uh, him saying Steph Curry is not a Hall of Famer yet is crazy. Steph Curry is already the greatest shooter ever.

  • 2:18:21

    And that's that pretty much get gets you in the Hall of Fame automatically. He has what? Four championships.

  • 2:18:27

    These old [ __ ] just be mad that Larry Bird get bumped down a few. That that's that's what it be.

  • 2:18:33

    That Rolling Stone put out a list. Larry Bird will be number one. Yeah. What? Three rings. Yeah. No, he's a

  • 2:18:38

    Steph Curry come out and shoot more threes than than Larry Bird and in in Larry Bird's whole career in like three

  • 2:18:44

    years. They're like, "Shut up, Mike." And I think Steph Curry is the only unanimous MVP ever, right?

  • 2:18:50

    Yeah. But I mean, how much stock you put in that man led his team to the best record of all time. That gets you in that gets you in the

  • 2:18:56

    hole. Mike's got a lot of salt behind that when everybody agreed that you are the best player in the league. Me and you friendly.

  • 2:19:01

    No, but he he was selling tequila at the time. So he may have been embibed. Listen, Steph Curry, I I love Mike.

  • 2:19:09

    Greatest player of all time in my opinion. But Stephen Curry is absolutely already a Hall of Famer.

  • 2:19:14

    That's true. Absolutely. What else you got, Parks? What else is important? We we never talked about Scarface running for uh Houston City

  • 2:19:20

    Council, and I think we should cuz I think that's dope. As much as we talk about rappers having careers after uh music, I think that's pretty cool.

  • 2:19:27

    I wasn't informed. So, he's running for uh Houston City Council. He's on a there's a early

  • 2:19:32

    voting thing that starts today. I'm sure he'll probably win. I would hope so. Houston will definitely go out and vote

  • 2:19:37

    for Scarface. They should. I hope so. You don't know that. You don't know what type of uh uh artist stereotypes he's

  • 2:19:44

    dealing with in politic world. Doesn't matter. up against I was just talking to my dad about politics last

  • 2:19:49

    night and he was saying how much he wished that like our generation would start getting [ __ ] popping.

  • 2:19:54

    Like he was against like he likes Bernie and and and uh well that's about it. He's like the fact that he's older, he

  • 2:20:01

    don't really like he wants someone young to to go in there and start making some moves. He's like my generation's got to start

  • 2:20:07

    getting out of the way of y'all generation because that's the future.

  • 2:20:12

    Our generation doesn't really care about politics. And that that boils over into hip-hop, too. I think the hip-hop

  • 2:20:18

    generation and especially hip-hop acts that have the capacity to run for politics and [ __ ] like that. Please do.

  • 2:20:25

    Well, you know what it is? Uh people like uh Bernie Sanders. I see Chance setting himself up for that. I can see

  • 2:20:31

    his father has experience in that too. He grew up in a household snitching

  • 2:20:38

    of a of a public political guy in Chicago. Yeah. Exactly. that like worked with Obama on

  • 2:20:44

    camera. So you going to keep snitching? Yeah. Yeah. So you going to tell go ahead and cook.

  • 2:20:50

    Did y'all watch that show yet? What show? Rhythm and flow. Oh no.

  • 2:20:55

    I watched it. Yes. You watched it but didn't hear. Rory is sick.

  • 2:21:01

    Yo. No. I know. You got You ain't get around to it yet. I know. Yeah. I got to watch the show. I know. I get it. Trust me. I can watch. He's probably making more money off the

  • 2:21:07

    show. Watch the show and listen the album at the same time. I get it. No, I'm with you. Does anyone have a hot take about the show that I wish would relax?

  • 2:21:14

    Anything that's even slightly like non-religious, he hates the This dude who's like a super Christian

  • 2:21:20

    rapper and like is really positive and genuine about everything did did it was a music video episode and the director I

  • 2:21:28

    guess like flipped some shots in the church and it was a great video, great message. Chance was like you should really watch

  • 2:21:34

    out who directs your videos cuz that was very demonic. second chance. But as soon as someone freestyles some

  • 2:21:40

    god [ __ ] he's like, "Yo, I really like that verse." Yeah, you hate him. Yeah, whatever.

  • 2:21:47

    Yeah, it's actually pretty good. I've enjoyed it. They just [ __ ] up when they got to the battle section [ __ ] all up. Yeah, he's

  • 2:21:52

    uh like the battle producing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Somebody sent me a clip of him uh giving some instructions to somebody cuz

  • 2:21:59

    they was like, "Yeah, we just asked about what what Los was doing." So, yeah. Yeah. He was on the the battle episode. Yeah. He's coaching and the uh

  • 2:22:05

    That's not a bad coach to have as a battle rapper. No, for real. Let's promote the show somewhere.

  • 2:22:11

    No, but they [ __ ] it up. They [ __ ] it up. No, they did though. They when they did the battle segment, it eliminated like half of the good people

  • 2:22:17

    on the show cuz everybody can't battle. Yeah. Yeah. And the judge they judged it poorly.

  • 2:22:23

    Why don't you guys stop telling them how to improve on things? Oh, you're right.

  • 2:22:28

    Well, I think you would have made a better judge than uh any of the three. All right. April Jones and Fizz. All right. Keep trying. Jesus, man.

  • 2:22:36

    Finally, we got some information on these two. Yeah. Uh, I don't know if we're there, but is there anything else important that we

  • 2:22:42

    need to get to? I think we covered everything. Nike CEO Mark Parker steps down. I think in the in the middle of the

  • 2:22:47

    Adidas versus Nike race. That's pretty important. I don't I don't know him, but

  • 2:22:54

    CEO stepping down of one of the most major corporations in in the world. It's CEO of of Nike.

  • 2:23:03

    You heard of them? They make sneakers. He's got a rap charge coming. Oh. Uh, Martin Scorsesei and Chris Ford

  • 2:23:09

    Copala said the Marvel movies are trash and not real cinema. And what did Iron Man reply?

  • 2:23:16

    Uh, he's dead. So, spoiler alert. Who don't know that by now?

  • 2:23:22

    I mean, I would hope you do, but you never know. Um, and Power was down this week. Who

  • 2:23:27

    was sad that they didn't get to get the I went I went right there on Mon cuz I Sunday we was shooting the [ __ ] Monday I

  • 2:23:33

    was like oh great I can start my Monday with power wasn't there. Damn. I was upset.

  • 2:23:39

    I'm sure you were. Oh well. I don't I don't I don't understand their whole fight with uh Stars but whatever.

  • 2:23:46

    What you mean uh P fight with Stars? Yeah. I don't know if it's not Stars or

  • 2:23:51

    the cable companies. I'm trying to figure out why they inherit a beef with cable companies.

  • 2:23:57

    Shouldn't that be stars beef? Especially while they're in their last season. That's what's confusing. I don't know. I don't know if it's their

  • 2:24:03

    last season. Well, no. They're just doing this your last season and there's only five episodes left. I don't give a [ __ ]

  • 2:24:09

    what Comcast is doing. Like, I'm out of here. Yeah. But for some reason, this is important

  • 2:24:15

    reasons unbeknownst to me. So, I'll keep it locked to Well, there could be royalty [ __ ] involved with that. Did I see some [ __ ]

  • 2:24:20

    where 50 was saying uh there's another season of Power coming? That's what I'm saying. I I think that they're planning on and

  • 2:24:27

    that's why they're getting into this Tyreek [ __ ] so heavy because they plan on giving us the prequel which is the story of I think y'all told me this of

  • 2:24:33

    how Ghost became Ghost which is a Tariq story. No, I think we said we might might want to see that.

  • 2:24:38

    Not Tariq of Ghost and Tommy meeting and this is some of the worst writing.

  • 2:24:43

    It looks like they're it looks like they're leading into giving us a Tariq series. I don't need That's what I feel like. I'm sorry.

  • 2:24:50

    And let me be on the record now with careless about Yeah. I don't This is some of the worst

  • 2:24:56

    writing in TV history. Like my thing is why didn't they just have everyone get hit with indictment?

  • 2:25:02

    Like the real [ __ ] that would happen. Everybody gets hit with indictment. Your son gets adopted or sent to a relatives

  • 2:25:08

    like adopted. You getting into the bag, you going to teach him how to move coke now. Yeah. You killed your best friend. Like what

  • 2:25:14

    the [ __ ] is going on, man? Mo, we can't kill the show on. That's all about the older generation,

  • 2:25:20

    the younger generation. Get the [ __ ] Yo, listen, man. That writing is terrible. It would never happen like that. Everyone would get

  • 2:25:25

    slapped with an indictment. [ __ ] would go to jail for 30 years. And that's the tell the real story. And then

  • 2:25:31

    Tommy are getting much more than 30 years. I'm just saying like, but go that route. They went the route of the most

  • 2:25:37

    unbelievable [ __ ] ever. All right. So, what's more anticipated to you? the uh actual uh season finale

  • 2:25:43

    of Power or the Law and Order version of the Tekashi trial that's coming.

  • 2:25:51

    Wait, which which one did we talk about that they did? Coming. Did you guys watch?

  • 2:25:56

    No, not yet. I didn't watch anything. I would watch Law and Order out though. It's out. Law and Order. Come on. You know they fed the streets.

  • 2:26:03

    Law and Order. What will Olivia say to Tekashi? That's what

  • 2:26:08

    How will she get him to take the stand? Yeah, I would watch that.

  • 2:26:13

    Olivia vers Tekashi would be the greatest courtroom scene ever.

  • 2:26:18

    I'll watch it. Please stop before they start getting more ideas about Tekashi. Oh, Tekashi docks.

  • 2:26:25

    I'm cool. Um, did we get to everything? Uh, I think Issa Ray said she's putting out she's creating a record label.

  • 2:26:32

    Congratulations to Issa Ray record label name radio popping up once again. TO first artist.

  • 2:26:39

    Go uh go Issa Ray. Huge fan of her. That's dope. Her show has really good music. I was going to say Insecure has put on a

  • 2:26:47

    lot of records. And if you keep liking the things she does, maybe she'll give you Insecure again.

  • 2:26:53

    I know, right? Been waiting on that season. Oh, man. All right. Yeah, I think that's I think

  • 2:26:58

    that's about it. Can save the rest for uh for Saturday. M saving content. The Kings.

  • 2:27:05

    Yeah. Uh again we are in Philadelphia, Baltimore, and New York in December.

  • 2:27:12

    That is the 7th, 8th, and 19th. Tickets available on Ticket Master. Uh and

  • 2:27:18

    that's that, man. For now, we getting the [ __ ] out of here. We got sleepers, I'm assuming, cuz we should have

  • 2:27:24

    sleepers. So, let's see. Yeah, Fred.

  • 2:27:32

    We got Fred is crazy, man. You think I was Mexican the way I paid chicken fajitas?

  • 2:27:39

    That's a hard bar. Fred be getting this [ __ ] off on the [ __ ] Don't talk about that. Remind me of the bar you spit on

  • 2:27:45

    Jim's album. Uh, now Sam, you're too fake.

  • 2:27:53

    Shout out to Fred, man. Shout out to Fred. Good pie, fellas. I enjoyed it.

  • 2:28:01

    I think we broke the cycle of uh trash Wednesdays after a fire Saturday. Yo,

  • 2:28:06

    and and and please do remember if you missed the fire Saturday, [ __ ] is still there. You can go back and check

  • 2:28:13

    it out. Uh we are getting out of here. The NBA season has returned. The NBA season has returned. So, we are getting

  • 2:28:21

    the [ __ ] out of here to go watch LeBron and these [ __ ] See what the [ __ ] is going on. And that's that, man.

  • 2:28:26

    Everybody have a safe week. Anything happening this weekend? Do we know?

  • 2:28:32

    Yo, the the BET Awards the BET Awards came and went without a [ __ ] word of

  • 2:28:38

    the ciphers. I just want to say that. Hey, they only did one. I don't care what they did. Hey, next

  • 2:28:43

    year, man. Pay pre. True. Pay pay. I ain't even look toward the turntables to see who was spending some

  • 2:28:49

    [ __ ] back there. It's value in that. There is. They don't want to pay us for our

  • 2:28:54

    cultural currency, but god damn it, we got to demand it anyway. Until the next time I bid you ad do farewell. Adios

  • 2:29:02

    dirty so long. Goodbye. Deuces. Peace. All of that good [ __ ] man. We getting out of here. Keep us in your prayers.

  • 2:29:08

    Lord knows that we need to be there. And until the next Hold up, BB, get your [ __ ] off right quick.

  • 2:29:16

    I had such a huge crush on CC Wasers, man. I had a huge crush on CC Wers when I was We all did. For me, it was at that time

  • 2:29:23

    CC Felicia Rashad. I didn't know what was going on with them two. Yeah. [Music]

  • 2:29:35

    All right. Back to my outro. Listen. Uh do remember the girl is not cute. She's

  • 2:29:40

    young. She's not thick. She's on a tippy toes. She doesn't have hips. She's sitting on a sink, a bed, or a flat

  • 2:29:45

    surface. She doesn't have a sense of humor. She grew up with brothers. She's not healing. She's hoing. That's not woman's intuition. She went through your

  • 2:29:52

    phone. Last, but certainly not least, that girl is not protecting her peace.

  • 2:29:58

    She is avoiding accountability, failing to realize how her actions have a negative effect on not only her life,

  • 2:30:03

    but other lives as well. Uh, what was our [ __ ] for the dudes? One day I'll memorize that one. But for now, uh, not

  • 2:30:10

    working a double. He is sleeping in her place. He doesn't have a lot on his mind. She found out about you. He's not

  • 2:30:16

    asking where you at. He's calculating how much time he has until you get home. Work hasn't been slow. He's unemployed.

  • 2:30:23

    You aren't working things out. He's left you forever. He doesn't see things your way. Your car, his car is in your name.

  • 2:30:29

    And last but not least, there's not an echo in his house. He is in the bathroom. Oh yeah. I don't know why I

  • 2:30:34

    always forget. He is not fighting demons. Hit it, Jack.

  • 2:30:40

    He owes money on his parking tickets. That's stressful though. Yeah, it is.

  • 2:30:45

    Yeah. Keep looking out the window. See if they put that boot on it. Yo, one day ESPN will give y'all the 30

  • 2:30:51

    for30 on how my parents never taught me how important it was to rectify parking tickets in your 20s. Man, I racked them

  • 2:30:59

    up. Once we uncover this Lewis debacle,

  • 2:31:05

    hey, I got I got bigger things to approach to you. Mo, don't do that. You would have loved that corn.

  • 2:31:10

    Oh my god, you would have loved that corn. Mom said, "You know, Loose wasn't really like a boyfriend. She was just putting

  • 2:31:18

    bodies on her." She like, "Yo, that wasn't like I didn't want to reply. Neither was Dad.

  • 2:31:25

    I going to kick your ass and yours and Rory. So, y'all better keep it cute. Keep it cute, bitch."

  • 2:31:31

    All right. Until the next time, we out of here, man. Y'all have a good week. We'll talk to you [ __ ] on Saturday. BB and CC. Hit it, Jack and Buck.

  • 2:31:54

    And let me show it.

  • 2:32:04

    You hear BB? I didn't know I was addicted. Hold on. Y'all not hear BB, man. Hold on. Y'all [ __ ] front, man.

  • 2:32:10

    Give me this [ __ ] BB.

  • 2:33:01

    I didn't know I was addicted. Yo, singers live. Come on, baby.