The Gardner
Joe Budden Podcast Episode 317, “The Gardner,” released January 31, 2020. After an emotional weekend due to the untimely passing of NBA legend Kobe Bryant, Joe and the guys reflect on Kobe and his legacy. They also discuss the Grammy's, the Roc Nation brunch, Bad Boys/Just Mercy recap, Google's commercial dedicated to black excellence and more! Sleeper Picks Joe: GASHI - "Safety 2020" Rory: Phony Ppl (ft. Megan thee Stallion) - "F*ck Around" Mal: Raekwon - "Solid Gold" Parks: Bad Bunny - "6 Rings" Full transcript and searchable timestamps below.

Joe Budden Podcast Ep. 317 Transcript
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[Laughter]
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welcome to episode 317 of the Joe Budden
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podcast I'm your humble gracious
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grateful and highly favored host Joe
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Budden here would a fuel my nearest and
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dearest friends mall this year parks is
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here Rory's here Erikson is here save on
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is here Alex the graders over there
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trailers over there remnants here
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somewhere I want to start I want to
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start this by thanking up by thanking my
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higher power for getting me here today I
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want to start by also thanking him for
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getting my friends who I'm blessed to
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have his co-workers here today and most
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importantly I want to thank him for
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getting you guys the listeners here
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today this is one of those difficult
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this is one of those difficult times to
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pod but we here and we're gonna attempt
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to get through this together yes how are
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y'all feeling how's everybody doing
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I mean despite despite the circumstances
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no with the circumstances period yeah I
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don't know we are we are here we are
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here to pay tribute to pay our respect
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to memorialize to commemorate to honor
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the legend the man the father the
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athlete Kobe Bryant five-time NBA
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champion two-time Finals MVP 18 time
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all-star
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I mean gold medal t12 to time to time
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Olympic gold medal winner the list of
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accolades goes goes on and
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but we want to start with we want to
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start with a rest in peace to Kobe
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Bryant Gianna Bryant to sarah Chester
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Christina Mouser John outer belly carry
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out a belly ELISA outer belly and our
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Rizzo beyond I want to also dedicate
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this episode to Laker nation basketball
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fans worldwide
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who else worldwide sports fans and
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sports fans sports fans period yeah I
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guess um and their families and you know
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everyone affected by these nine lives
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being lost yeah that's what jumped out
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the most to me the family aspect in in
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all of this but we won't we won't start
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there if you have not heard by now
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tragic and fatal helicopter crash in
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Calabasas Sunday morning I think the
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time reported was 10:30 a.m. reports of
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heavy fog new details are emerging every
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second that passes but I'll start with
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where I was I was home chilling I was
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home chilling enjoying a peaceful Sunday
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it's playing a game of Monopoly like the
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world was awesome everything was great I
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might even had a great Saturday yeah
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like you know when you body the Friday
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Saturday combo and then you just chill
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on this Sunday that's what was going on
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with me yes it wasn't really so excited
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about the Grammys say-so that just
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wasn't where my focus was I was just
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home enjoying friends and family and
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then and then somebody blurted out the
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oldest and Kobe died and instantly I
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just went into refusal to accept that
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yeah even that was intriguing to me how
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you just won't accept some [ __ ] I even
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as the reports kept coming and that
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seemed more and more legit I was like
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not TMZ deleted the tweet see yeah there
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was some [ __ ]
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yeah they said they said Co are they
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reporting the Kobe died I said who said
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it
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they said baller alert I said nope no
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sorry buddy not rolling with that one up
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I went to the old TMZ post and delete it
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kind of caught like some relief when
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that happened thank God thank God TMZ
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[ __ ] that up
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yeah and then it came back up maybe 10
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minutes later yeah it came back up and
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and the more details that started to
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come out like all of my refusal to
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accept the situation and what was
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happening just slowly started going out
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the window off I first thought it asked
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what's up well why the [ __ ] would it's
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the great leagues he's not going to
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great if not going to the Grammys yeah
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where is he flying to the basketball
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games like oh no yeah then it was like
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oh who was he with that was my that was
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one of my that was one of my first
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thoughts yeah who was he with on this
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helicopter I was praying that it wasn't
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his entire family um but the news that
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we got was didn't do any relieving this
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was this was one of the more tragic one
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of the more tragic events and and it hit
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me it hit me I was [ __ ] up I [ __ ] up
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I'm [ __ ] I'm here still am for sure
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I'm [ __ ] up now oh well y'all talk now
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when I got the call even before I had
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all our group chat I hadn't even seen
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tweets or anything I got a call from
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someone and when they said did you hear
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the Kobe news everything in Kobe's life
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when it came to news related to me has
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been great news so I'm thinking oh wait
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people at the Lakers or Spotify like
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yeah like what what amazing thing to
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Kobe just do like nah saying he's dead
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and I was like similar what you saying
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who said it like come on I'm sick of the
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internet and their games yeah and a lot
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of misinformation that was coming out I
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put my phone down went to the gym was
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like let me just wait for this to unfold
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a little bit and it didn't get better
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yeah
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yeah I was on uh I was on East Coast
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time so you know we wake up at [ __ ]
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6:00 a.m. out there and I opened the
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blinds and I was like wow it's really
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shitty outside foggy is [ __ ] I never see
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la like this like of course I'm the one
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that comes to LA when it doesn't have
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the good weather and didn't think
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anything of it and then once more
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reports came I was like was pretty
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[ __ ] foggy this morning like I
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couldn't see out my window of my hotel
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room and I wasn't but you know 30
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minutes from Calabasas maybe less right
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it was eerie to me very recently on this
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podcast we were talking about how often
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we use death machines and they no mind
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to them being a death machine and I
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think in that same conversation we spoke
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about doing something that you've done
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10 million times and transitioning in
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that and the suddenness in that the
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amount of the amount of calm that you
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should be experiencing and doing
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something that you've done a million
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times so this is the older pilot yeah
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he's someone that's phones and that
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years over 20 years of experience yeah
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he's not inexperienced yeah I guess
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those are where most of my questions
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come come in and is that's been the
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hardest part for me yeah I still I mean
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but you know but you but when you've
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done something so many times and you so
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experienced it was foggy up there but I
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think I think I'm sure he's phone flown
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in the fog before yeah I think I know a
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air pocket or just a way to travel where
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we can make it successfully 25 minutes
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away 20 minutes away it wasn't a long
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trip yeah and and from my understanding
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they've flown with him before this is a
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basketball family at all the families
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that I'm sure I've been to this court on
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that that helicopter a million times
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before so I'm sure it was probably the
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most routine Sunday ever for them you
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have a desk apart this first of all
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that's before we even get to I have a
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theory about just Grammy weekend
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a period it's it's bad uh you put out
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you put a lot of it's bad you put a lot
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of energies if that's even a word yeah
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in the same place I never liked it yeah
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some always just shaking happens there
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the Whitney death Chris and Rihanna
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muggings robberies all the [ __ ] that's
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not reported like no it's a big reason I
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won't go reasonable I'm just I'm just
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afraid of all of that but uh so they say
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that and this was a witness that came
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out and said the helicopter was flying
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so low that his house was shaking so he
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he's on record saying that he looked up
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and couldn't see the plane when he hit
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here yes to speak to how foggy it was up
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there and I just can't imagine traveling
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nevertheless flying without being able
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to see I've been driving when the road
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is too dark and the high beams don't
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necessarily get it done they make it let
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me tell you much less it is the most
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it's one of the more frightening things
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you'll experience so I can't imagine
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doing doing that in the sky number one
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in number two la is mountains yeah
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especially in that area
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I read that uh they had just cleared a
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few mountains by a hundred feet so he
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may have thought he was in the clear and
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when he when he and couldn't see anymore
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and he said that he went low when he
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probably should have gone high and he
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hit hit a mountain spiraled crashed fire
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no survivors immediately they were able
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to tell that no black box on on one
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board just an iPad I'm not certain if
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that that has been recovered yet or not
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um but it's just that it's just that I
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had to roll out of bed to get here today
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yeah yeah I've been crawling for two
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days pretty much yeah you got to turn
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the TV off yeah [ __ ] on ESPN and that's
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the other part about that just just last
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week we were complaining about what the
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the drought that ESPN has to
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cover on the two week on the two week
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build-up to the Superbowl let me tell
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you I'm much rather some dak Prescott
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conversations right now yeah a much
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rather talk about if Jimmy G can carry
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the Niners against my homes this is not
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this is just wasn't the news week that I
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was prepared for yeah and I mean what we
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were talking about off mic before about
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basketball being so universal to the
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world and Kobe Bryant arguably being the
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most popular player in history you could
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make a real argument yeah and you add
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that in with with one of one of the more
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popular sports the world has to offer
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not just the United States everywhere
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you go like of course we've had
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celebrity deaths where you know maybe
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they were more in our world our
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demographic you're not walking anywhere
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without a Kobe Bryant conversation of
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any walk of life that you could find
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yeah so yes not just like turning off
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the TV you walk outside every single
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person yeah his his impact was felt was
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felt I just had a conversation with the
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Asian pizza guy and he was talking to me
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about Kobe to the overdrive was talking
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to me about a movie I saw my kid sweet'n
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about how that hits the kids at college
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was going through it about Kobe
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the one thing that though the one thing
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that just stuck out in my mind was
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actually a conversation wit foot would
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mall that I might have referenced
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recently just about how you know the
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athletes just about how the athletes
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viewed Kobe yeah and the amount of
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respect they had for him in the pedestal
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that they put him on I think that has
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been on display here yeah yeah across
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all sports and especially with the
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current NBA in their age I can speak to
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that too cuz I I so kind of saw Jordan I
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didn't really see Jordan I was there for
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for Kobe the whole way like he means
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more personally to me because I watched
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him physically my entire life so this
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this NBA
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right now yeah of course they'll love
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Jordan but Kobe was the guy that they
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looked up to every time they turned on
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the TV when they were growing up 20 you
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did 20 actually I had that same thought
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process too when it came to cuz you know
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you just got to think about Mike somehow
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when you talk about God Jordan they
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brought it brought him up on ESPN a
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whole bunch times yeah oh I was there
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for Mike I saw Mike but I was a kid
- 13:45
same I was a kid watching Mike so yeah
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Mike was getting busy but I remember a
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whole house full of uncles amazed at
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what Mike was doing at the Blazers mmm
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I remember I just remember I just
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remember the whole house being it was
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kind of like uh when Tyson for Buster
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Douglas like he was a kid but you
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remember your whole house of whoever you
- 14:10
was watching that fight the world
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stopped so you didn't really have a good
- 14:14
grasp but you knew what was happening
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by the time Kobe came it was like let me
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see Kobe was Kobe was 41 right so Colby
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that was kind of my age group so when I
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was in high school it was a big deal
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that he was leaving high school to go
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straight to the NBA Kobe I saw in high
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school called me and Vince Carter were
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probably the two players that I watched
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fanatically in high school and I had an
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affinity for Colby because I hated
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school I hated school and I kind of
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wanted to do something else that maybe
- 15:01
wasn't traditional and here was this man
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being applauded for not being
- 15:08
traditional and saying yeah I hate
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school - that's how I internalized of
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course I didn't understand the bigger
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picture there but so from there I had a
- 15:17
Colby cape yeah
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and in his first season was kind of
- 15:21
Rocky and they was calling him whatever
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they was calling on y'all just wait I
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still had my cape on and kind of
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throughout his career it was great for
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me to be able to uh
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to stand it as an adult and not wasn't
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wasn't a Laker fan at all
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I'm not crying so good I was gonna jump
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in because that's that's me too like I
- 15:48
never hated Kobe but I was always on the
- 15:52
opposing side of anything Kobe dear like
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I didn't get the root for the lady yeah
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exactly I never rooted rooted for him
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because I was always just on the other
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side even when the Sixers finals I was
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12 and you know we were in Iverson Crais
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everyone in my school had the blue
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Iverson Jersey and probably wore it
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three or four times a week Internet's so
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hit me the picture right so my second
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new Iverson chopped up notes it's on
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Instagram
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send it over send it through buddy we'll
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take a break Michelle tan you had a way
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of cowboy no ID on my Instagram I'll
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Photoshop the wave council oh but yeah
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even through all that like you could
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like you couldn't not love Kobe even
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when you weren't rooting for him like
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you couldn't watch that TV and be like
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man [ __ ] [ __ ] him I was a Spurs fan from
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most of that era so I watched I battled
- 16:51
yelled at TV about Kobe for a decade but
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I mean it was because he was [ __ ]
- 16:57
killed my team ever you listen he didn't
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go to college he was dating Moishe name
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a better project that sounds funny now
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[Music]
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he was busting ass then he was arrogant
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he backed it up 3/4 with shaggers like
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Shaq practice [ __ ] I just always roll
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with cold man and when you hear people
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speak and speak about his up the
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competitive nature like I'm loving all
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these Kobe stories let me tell you I am
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I did my crying I'm here to celebrate
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like yeah like now let's let's Irish we
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could easily cry here for three hours
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bullets let's cry but I mean we don't
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cry telling these great stories because
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I'm loving them oh the little will story
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that that just took all about and taking
- 17:58
all the sneakers yeah I missed I would
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he said I they just got blown to Laker
- 18:03
just got blown out by Portland after the
- 18:05
game Kobe took everybody Kobe's said
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y'all are too soft awareness let me say
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this too while we here let me look at
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the camera and say it cuz we probably
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going through this together when it see
- 18:23
dive we marathon marathon Aziz we keep
- 18:26
it going it's a baton easy to emulate
- 18:29
let's do it we better be careful with
- 18:31
this Mamba mentality stiff oh it's got
- 18:34
low self-esteem
- 18:56
you can't even like pretend to be that
- 18:59
competitive have you tried to emulate it
- 19:02
you you would fail you could argue all
- 19:03
day about the greatest basketball
- 19:05
players of all time I'm not sure that
- 19:06
you could argue a more competitive
- 19:08
athlete basketball yeah that's I'm
- 19:10
saying it in the history of sports I'm
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not sure that we've ever seen someone at
- 19:13
least with the skill level to back up
- 19:17
that competitive mentality oh my god
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like Kobe telling Mike man you ain't
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[ __ ] yeah bust your ass you know know
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the great story [ __ ] would spike
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Lisa said every time Kobe we'd see each
- 19:31
other he'd greet me anything
- 19:33
you'll spike the Knicks suck yeah this
- 19:40
is Tom dude the video the video of the
- 19:43
Kobe practice let him have it walked off
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so I got mine you broke bad
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yeah I got rings and money [ __ ] oh yeah
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I'm out were why am i working harder
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than y'all listen listen I love all that
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I think one of my I think one of my
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favorite stories in this tragedy that
- 20:06
was one named Mike Tirico told about all
- 20:10
about Colby's a final game against the
- 20:14
Jazz the 60 point game yeah and he said
- 20:17
when Colby went to the line at the end
- 20:18
of the game for the 62 two free throws
- 20:21
day 60 he said and it was showing the
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footage he said on the second free throw
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when he had fifty nine and he shot the
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ball Gordon Hayward put his foot in the
- 20:33
lane before he shot it as he shot the
- 20:37
ball he put his foot in the lane and
- 20:38
looked at the ref in case he didn't make
- 20:41
the free throw because he wanted to give
- 20:43
him another shot at 60 yeah like [ __ ]
- 20:46
like that speaks to that moral statement
- 20:48
to me about just how players viewed
- 20:51
Colby Moore you speak to a man how is
- 20:54
this affecting you you like a fan talk
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to me I was [ __ ] up I didn't believe
- 21:00
it at first but then my phone started
- 21:03
going off and why don't we believe
- 21:04
certain deaths
- 21:07
they said nipsey was shot in the head
- 21:09
and I was like nope right yeah I just it
- 21:12
was all sitting I don't want to look at
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it yeah you don't want to accept it like
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I just I didn't want to accept that it
- 21:17
was true and then I have to you know
- 21:19
speaking to a few people that it starts
- 21:21
to settle in and then like you said I
- 21:23
was just hoping that it wasn't a family
- 21:26
trip that into his entire family wasn't
- 21:28
on the helicopter with him and then once
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you know they found out his daughter was
- 21:32
on it that's when they really started to
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like just really hurt and it started to
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become true and then speaking to certain
- 21:40
guys that was close to Colby in hand and
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break down and you know them talking
- 21:44
about everything that he did for them
- 21:46
behind the scenes that Colby never
- 21:47
wanted to make public and you know just
- 21:49
conversations that he had with with
- 21:51
certain individuals and you just kind of
- 21:54
you you realize that all of that is over
- 21:57
with and it's gone and it's you know
- 21:59
he's not he's no longer with us and
- 22:00
other passengers like you just think
- 22:03
about how like I said life is
- 22:04
fragile like everybody that boarded that
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helicopter had a full day planned like
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they had things that they regret ago do
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they had a Monday plan they had a whole
- 22:14
week plan they had a summer plan and you
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just realized that in a matter of
- 22:19
seconds all of that is gone and then you
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start to think about for me growing up a
- 22:24
Kobe fan you start to reminisce of you
- 22:26
know the last 20-something years and
- 22:28
then you start to reflect on your life
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and where you were when you first got
- 22:32
introduced to Kobe and watching him grow
- 22:34
and growing with him Kobe's only three
- 22:36
years older than me so I will never
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leave and literally grew up when I was
- 22:40
in my low Caesar mode like having
- 22:42
problems with it he body like every
- 22:46
every time you were just growing and
- 22:48
learning he spoke five length old man's
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guys the [ __ ] man right yeah yeah you
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know it hurts because of that you start
- 22:55
to reminisce on all the years all the
- 22:57
memories all the moments and then it
- 23:00
just becomes too much and you like damn
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I like in a split second all that can be
- 23:03
taken away so that I mean for me like I
- 23:05
said I you know I was I was [ __ ] up
- 23:08
and you know I couldn't get out of bed
- 23:10
you know everybody everybody thought
- 23:13
it'd want to talk to them I couldn't
- 23:14
handle just having conversation because
- 23:16
everybody know that yo fam I got a whole
- 23:20
segment on that that we won't get into
- 23:23
just because it's not just not the time
- 23:26
for it but like I had planned Sunday
- 23:30
night yeah and I was I was I was I was
- 23:35
ignoring the people that I had the plans
- 23:37
with which I hate when people do that
- 23:39
and then as they were hitting me saying
- 23:42
yo is this a dub are you coming like it
- 23:44
felt funny for me to say it but I boys
- 23:47
recorded and I said young I'm the co be
- 23:50
passing has me too [ __ ] up to move mmm
- 23:54
and I didn't want that to come off all
- 23:57
right - you know you're talking to maybe
- 23:59
women or people who just don't really
- 24:01
know what Kobe meant to you as like a
- 24:03
man yeah but like all the men I know was
- 24:06
twisted but I do appreciate that like a
- 24:10
lot of a lot of women a lot of my female
- 24:12
friends date they knew how
- 24:14
: how still fill about well it's all my
- 24:16
the chicks that don't know me from a can
- 24:18
of paint just hear me but you can't and
- 24:20
think that your your actions have
- 24:22
something to do with dumb yeah but even
- 24:23
in that you know I try not to get upset
- 24:25
like I got text messages and stuff from
- 24:27
people that was just talking about stuff
- 24:29
that was just totally irrelevant yeah I
- 24:31
get I didn't want it but you can't you
- 24:33
can't because people really don't
- 24:34
understand how you know how much an
- 24:37
athlete or somebody that you didn't
- 24:39
really personally know can affect you
- 24:41
well I get mad when people make anything
- 24:43
about them yeah and that's yeah like
- 24:45
that's it that that's what it is
- 24:46
so if you didn't mean tomorrow you're
- 24:49
not [ __ ] you're not [ __ ] me
- 24:50
because it is like fam the whole world
- 24:52
is mourning right it ain't about you
- 24:54
nothing about what you're talking about
- 24:56
right now but I was grateful for those
- 24:58
that understood and they you know they
- 25:00
just checked up on me in in ten messages
- 25:01
what what helped me with the grieving a
- 25:04
little bit and this is just how you know
- 25:07
they say the people that are that are
- 25:09
truly that are truly in mourning are
- 25:13
just all of us because the person that
- 25:15
has transitioned out of this dimension
- 25:17
is all right hmm
- 25:19
it helped me when I looked at grieving
- 25:22
is like a very selfish act
- 25:24
mm-hmm because when I take myself out of
- 25:27
it and what Kobe meant to me and the
- 25:31
admiration that I had for him and what I
- 25:35
wanted to see sort of like Shaq spoke to
- 25:37
like wondering who Colby would ask to
- 25:40
bring him out for his Hall of Fame
- 25:42
inductee speech mmm envisioning them at
- 25:45
70 years old 80 years old and the old
- 25:48
folks home trading stories like like I
- 25:51
be wanting to see [ __ ] like that that
- 25:53
that's how that's how I envisioned it
- 25:55
yeah but take taking me out of it
- 25:59
what a life to live very funny
- 26:03
like talk about being fulfilled I mean
- 26:08
that's life conch which kind of made
- 26:11
that tracy mcgrady thing even earlier of
- 26:13
him saying that Kobe once told him that
- 26:16
that he wanted to die young he wanted to
- 26:18
be immortalized average you know house
- 26:21
all of Tracy saying that yeah fair and
- 26:26
and at the time he said
- 26:28
I can see your case there and I was
- 26:30
thinking maybe he probably said that to
- 26:31
Traci prior to being a family man and
- 26:34
having a bunch of kids and that's my of
- 26:36
course your mentality changes as far as
- 26:39
your life when you have kids cuz you're
- 26:41
no longer living for you but and not to
- 26:45
cut you up and even if it don't and even
- 26:47
if that's true and you still want to
- 26:49
transition early to be immortalised no
- 26:53
you're not picturing it with your 13
- 26:56
year old daughter of course not and I
- 26:58
don't think Traci was trying to suggest
- 27:01
that this is what Kobe wanted then shut
- 27:03
up yeah but no again a lot of people are
- 27:07
not even if they haven't their mind and
- 27:09
gather their thoughts and is why I think
- 27:11
people are saying things and doing
- 27:12
things and I'm not putting much stock in
- 27:14
it because I know a lot I know who
- 27:16
especially someone like Tracy McGrady
- 27:18
who was you know his man real cool yeah
- 27:19
Hobie he his head is all in a fog right
- 27:22
now so I don't put much stock into
- 27:24
things that people may say I do right
- 27:25
now but I do I do think that it's very
- 27:27
important for us to continue to keep you
- 27:30
know all of the families and and
- 27:32
personal loved ones like in our prayers
- 27:35
because this as hard as as hard as it is
- 27:37
for us as just fans and you know people
- 27:40
who loved Kobe and watch them from afar
- 27:42
like I can only imagine what his wife
- 27:44
and there's other daughters you know and
- 27:46
you know the other people that won't
- 27:48
board their families that that pain is
- 27:50
something that they have to the whole
- 27:52
world is watching this is playing out in
- 27:54
front of the world
- 27:54
and you know it's really like we were
- 27:57
hurting but they are going through
- 27:58
entirely different type of pain yeah so
- 28:01
we have to continue to pray for them
- 28:02
like imma be I'm okay
- 28:04
but how to outer belly had two other
- 28:06
kids yes yeah that don't have parents
- 28:12
now or a sibling or sibling yeah
- 28:19
did you guys get a chance to listen to
- 28:21
um Christina's husband yeah speak yeah I
- 28:26
thought that was a really powerful
- 28:28
interview and he handled it extremely
- 28:30
well just explaining who his wife was
- 28:32
and her legacy and it kind of to me and
- 28:35
I I want to bring everything back to
- 28:37
Kobe the way this all the reports kind
- 28:39
of have but it's just who we knew so
- 28:40
naturally
- 28:41
that's how we feel but I just thought
- 28:44
that hold the whole story of everyone in
- 28:46
that helicopter I just explained to
- 28:49
family like I've always joked that I
- 28:52
don't know how it would be a great
- 28:54
parent with sports because I don't want
- 28:55
to hang out with my kids friends parents
- 28:57
just because I'm anti-social that way
- 28:59
like a joke whatever right I'm and I'm
- 29:02
not Kobe Bryant the way Kobe a dedicated
- 29:04
no you're not mom
- 29:06
not even close Oh was like the weakest
- 29:08
snake the way he dedicated everything to
- 29:15
to his daughter's basketball life and
- 29:19
her friends basketball lives and just
- 29:22
bringing people in as assistant coaches
- 29:24
and like like you're now an icon to live
- 29:27
such a normal life in that way
- 29:30
I thought spoke like really high things
- 29:33
about Kobe in that degree and just what
- 29:36
he was doing for basketball in general
- 29:37
like with uh you know its dedication to
- 29:39
women's basketball WNBA you know doing
- 29:42
the Mambo soccer like he was all over ya
- 29:46
and that's where I want to celebrate him
- 29:50
yeah because you know in all of these
- 29:54
different interviews and excerpts
- 29:56
excerpts you hear him just speaking to
- 29:59
never waste in a second always making
- 30:02
the most of your time always making the
- 30:04
most what your day leaving it all out
- 30:07
there so when you hear 41 it's a sound
- 30:11
so it's so young it's so short-lived
- 30:14
yeah but not when you are as
- 30:18
well-traveled as Kobe Bryant not when
- 30:21
you are as tenured and experienced and
- 30:24
that was a long 41 and I work as hard as
- 30:29
he did you got a like I said we grew up
- 30:32
we grew up like Kobe's three years older
- 30:35
so when I was a freshman in high school
- 30:36
he was the guy that everybody was
- 30:39
talking about Yoda's dude in Philly he's
- 30:41
great to go pro he's so you literally
- 30:43
watched him grow so as you watch him
- 30:45
grow you're growing so you see a lot of
- 30:49
similarities like okay like now you get
- 30:52
like what Mike it was a difference
- 30:53
because Michael is already a grown man
- 30:54
yeah so was a difference it was like you
- 30:56
were kind of looking at Mike like but
- 30:58
what Cole and Mike hid all this dirt
- 31:00
right well Cove you looking at it like
- 31:02
what parks one day that's important yeah
- 31:11
my green does Kobe had to face that yeah
- 31:13
yeah like what Mike had to face is
- 31:15
different from what Kobe had to face
- 31:17
with a different from what LeBron has
- 31:18
has to face absolutely yeah everybody
- 31:20
goes through things different but the
- 31:21
thing is you realize putting an 18 year
- 31:25
old kid in that environment in Los
- 31:26
Angeles right that's what what that does
- 31:30
now like I know what it does to 30 year
- 31:32
olds that are broke exactly you know I
- 31:34
mean so we you didn't look at it like
- 31:35
that then so to know that he came
- 31:37
through all of that and was the man that
- 31:39
he is Imelda gave me a nice laugh in my
- 31:44
time of need my badge is crying up a
- 31:48
storm watch it the SPN put all this
- 31:51
Kobe's stuff right and [ __ ] the Aaron
- 31:55
Hernandez quarterback [ __ ] up in my
- 31:57
head like we would smack the [ __ ] out of
- 32:02
smush Parker V popped up right now you
- 32:06
know man Tommy Brown if he popped up and
- 32:14
wanted to share some secret Kobe stories
- 32:16
shut up
- 32:17
yo and speaking of Kwame Brown and
- 32:20
laughs in the middle of all this none of
- 32:30
what ever game it was and it said in a
- 32:32
picture of Kwame Brown and Kobe I said
- 32:34
Kwame Brown and Kobe combined for 62
- 32:36
points on this day Kohi one time you had
- 32:40
one point do you think that they should
- 32:44
change the NBA logo I'll ask y'all that
- 32:46
yes I think there's other ways to don't
- 32:50
wanna Kobe don't better I'm not mad at
- 32:53
that is because this is something that's
- 32:54
been talked about for years
- 32:55
they've been talking about trying to
- 32:56
change the logo for years I just don't
- 32:59
like people this just happened like we
- 33:04
just lost Kobe and his daughter and
- 33:07
his friends on that flight like just two
- 33:10
three days ago let's just take let
- 33:13
things just take their time we don't
- 33:15
have to jump right into that hmm
- 33:17
like just let things take their time let
- 33:19
the families mourn let them have their
- 33:21
services let them have their time then
- 33:23
we could start talking about this
- 33:25
discussion later down a lot I do feel
- 33:28
like every game should have been
- 33:29
cancelled that date oh absolutely I
- 33:31
agree watching those players try to take
- 33:33
the floor crying and that was just too
- 33:35
much uh yeah but it was one of them
- 33:37
afternoon games
- 33:38
what was that Houston Denver it was an
- 33:40
afternoon game where they were on the
- 33:42
court in the layup line when they found
- 33:44
out yeah that game I can understand it
- 33:47
not being canceled well yeah
- 33:48
you arrested them yeah yeah yeah they
- 33:51
should have went I'm really glad that
- 33:52
they popped that they are postponed the
- 33:55
Laker Clipper game that was happening
- 33:57
why are they in the group chair when I
- 33:59
was trying to see yeah but I knew that
- 34:04
game wasn't happening there's no way
- 34:06
that the lake organization was would
- 34:07
have been able to that I knew that
- 34:09
wasn't happening y'all like all our
- 34:12
tributes the eight eight and 24-second
- 34:15
violation
- 34:16
oh that was beautiful I love what you
- 34:20
can't do it for Gigi yeah fine home like
- 34:23
we're downstate we're retiring the
- 34:24
jersey numbers I like what I'm sure mark
- 34:27
you before that I like what I'm hearing
- 34:28
about all that the players kind of
- 34:31
informally retiring the numbers 8 and 24
- 34:35
y'all know I have to wait for the NBA
- 34:37
yeah y'all not want to choose not weird
- 34:40
yeah well that speaks to again a lot of
- 34:42
most of the players in NBA today grew up
- 34:45
on the hallways of Kobe you know I mean
- 34:47
and that's why I mean you can see that
- 34:49
impact and you know a lot of these but
- 34:52
it was just it was it the the really sad
- 34:54
part was hearing from the players that
- 34:59
never never met him and like they was
- 35:02
like yo he never seen him like in the
- 35:04
hallway but he never spoke to me like
- 35:06
but I was like damn I smile it's game on
- 35:08
no I agree but it was just dope to hear
- 35:12
them say you know just speak about how
- 35:14
much just seeing him like in person
- 35:18
meant to them like that to meet I was
- 35:20
like
- 35:21
it's just good like the play is now in
- 35:22
today's NBA the respect that they gave
- 35:25
and they show for Kobe was was really
- 35:27
good to see I am
- 35:29
I agree with you I think the
- 35:30
conversation about the NBA logo change
- 35:33
is entirely too soon
- 35:34
weights is number one but if I agree
- 35:37
though but it's forced to think about it
- 35:40
I agree but only because only for
- 35:46
business reasons like I thought that
- 35:49
they should have changed the logo to
- 35:51
Jordans Jumpman long ago until I heard
- 35:55
through the grapevine that they can't
- 35:58
they not like to too much involved so
- 36:01
much money shame onto the fadeaway and
- 36:03
things like that like I said this has
- 36:04
been talks for that at least
- 36:06
and that year and that's gonna be the
- 36:07
same that's gonna be the same case with
- 36:09
LeBron by the way like whatever LeBrons
- 36:12
iconic logo is he's charging you for it
- 36:15
as it should you know you're not just
- 36:16
gonna use it um I like the Jerry West
- 36:21
the Jerry West play in Kobe's career so
- 36:24
it may very supportive it makes sense
- 36:26
they drafted Kobe uh traded for Kobe
- 36:29
I just read something nothing I don't
- 36:31
know how true it is what they just said
- 36:32
that Jerry Jerry West came out and it
- 36:34
was like he absolutely does not want to
- 36:36
be the logo anymore Jerry West has not
- 36:38
wanted to be the logo for a long time
- 36:40
now yeah yeah okay he don't care well
- 36:44
also well he don't care versus he does
- 36:46
it once who was a big difference is
- 36:48
there any sport where up where a player
- 36:50
is the logo a specific player I don't
- 36:57
think I don't think that's I don't think
- 36:58
that's yeah well what's been a fellow go
- 37:00
just the NFL GT it should be yeah too
- 37:16
soon too soon for the logo change stuff
- 37:18
oh yeah did anybody feel a way about
- 37:21
TMZ's reporting of this I didn't hear
- 37:24
any reporters once I found out it was
- 37:27
true I just turned everything off so
- 37:28
there was a Thursday the TMZ got the
- 37:31
news and broadcasted
- 37:32
or telling his family yeah before the
- 37:35
police were able to contact what a stand
- 37:38
if that's the case how do we feel about
- 37:42
that this isn't this is discussed it's
- 37:45
classless it is it's not you know I mean
- 37:48
but but but again yeah you know it is
- 37:50
generally it should be illegal to be the
- 37:52
first to report something oh yeah it no
- 37:54
it should literally be it was a lot of
- 37:57
that too boy was y'all freestyling who
- 37:59
was on that helicopter fool I I had to
- 38:02
put the phone down so I'm seeing
- 38:04
everything oh wow it was y'all kill Rick
- 38:08
Fox like yeah come on man I love Rick
- 38:11
Fox yeah now that was too much it was
- 38:16
just too much people trying to report be
- 38:18
the first it was credible news outlets
- 38:21
doing it that was the frustrating part
- 38:22
their wives ABC reporting Elizabeth
- 38:24
information because there's chill they
- 38:26
care about traffic not the truth I don't
- 38:29
like them reporting on our traumas I
- 38:34
don't understand I don't like I don't
- 38:37
like TMZ but I get it I get the game
- 38:42
yeah I get it
- 38:43
and I am appreciative that somebody lets
- 38:45
us know when some happen our heroes but
- 38:50
it's just a certain callousness to me
- 38:53
about it that's how I read it like I
- 38:57
feel like one ours would have maybe
- 38:59
prepared us a little bit like no
- 39:02
breaking news this to me they were doing
- 39:04
their job but there has to be a way they
- 39:06
could have been a little bit more
- 39:07
considerate to the families you know
- 39:10
what I mean yeah absolutely the family
- 39:12
should absolutely be they should be it
- 39:15
should be all right first before any
- 39:17
media outlet reports anything what led
- 39:20
should state [ __ ] it on TMZ ins and said
- 39:24
yeah totally unacceptable that y'all are
- 39:29
breaking news before we have had time to
- 39:31
alert the family yeah yeah and I don't
- 39:34
know if that's how the family found out
- 39:35
but in a worst-case scenario boy I'd
- 39:38
hate to be scrolling my phone and see
- 39:41
that my loved one my my yeah no no boy
- 39:47
my heart goes out to the families of
- 39:49
everybody that world was on board yeah I
- 39:53
can't imagine the pain like like yeah
- 39:58
this hit me as a fan of sports second
- 40:02
this hit me as a parent first like it's
- 40:07
all of our it's it's all of our worst
- 40:11
fear is being in that moment with your
- 40:16
child
- 40:18
[ __ ] I was on my way over here with my
- 40:21
kid looking up every second like nah
- 40:24
nope no [ __ ] that wrong day for a crash
- 40:26
buddy how you live is how you died oh
- 40:30
that's what else helped me with this
- 40:31
with this uh tragic time how you live is
- 40:35
how you die so how I picture it up there
- 40:38
I picture Kobe being the fearless leader
- 40:43
that he's always been sure I him
- 40:47
attempting to troubleshoot the entire
- 40:50
situation and calm everyone on board
- 40:52
like I've always known him to do I
- 40:55
picture him grabbing his daughter and
- 40:59
clutching her and saying this is gonna
- 41:01
be alright as as if that's just how
- 41:05
that's just how I picture it up there
- 41:07
and I have am nothing I I have no reason
- 41:10
to believe that it didn't occur that way
- 41:11
I've watched this man moved that way for
- 41:15
X amount of years yeah when you're a
- 41:19
leader you lead it you lead in every
- 41:20
situation you know 100 percent 100
- 41:24
percent I can't I can't wait to see if
- 41:28
they find that that iPad and see if
- 41:30
there's any helpful information on there
- 41:32
they say that the crash scene was too
- 41:35
dangerous for people to even go and
- 41:37
search immediately after yeah yeah oh
- 41:41
but they went back they say they found
- 41:44
everybody it's just nice just nothing
- 41:47
else to say man listen it's nothing else
- 41:49
to say not the way I wanted to start
- 41:52
apart and I miss him
- 41:56
yeah and I miss him like Kobe was I just
- 42:00
seen Kobe at puffs party mm-hmm and was
- 42:03
hype about it it was like in a room full
- 42:07
of celebrities in a room full of
- 42:10
multimillionaires and billionaires some
- 42:13
of them in a room full of people that
- 42:16
got to put on all the jewelry in the
- 42:17
world in hopes of being noticed by
- 42:19
somebody Kobe's stood out like a sore
- 42:23
thumb
- 42:23
that's cause Kobe I'm sure that went
- 42:25
around going yo you so close looked like
- 42:27
and I looked over there and see it's
- 42:30
just a it's a different level of respect
- 42:34
I looked over there and had so much
- 42:35
respect that I said I'm not walking over
- 42:38
there yeah one of those it's one at all
- 42:41
yeah like you know I'm gonna play myself
- 42:44
man let Cole bribe me yeah yeah man I
- 42:51
can't imagine what Vanessa's going
- 42:53
through I can't imagine what I can't
- 42:56
imagine what any of the family members
- 42:57
of all the people on board are going
- 43:02
through is my worst nightmare
- 43:05
and y'all in my prayers yeah heavily
- 43:10
heavily um yes finally I've always
- 43:15
definitely a white gardener the white
- 43:18
gardener gotta be the white gardener
- 43:19
snake now the white card
- 43:25
[Laughter]
- 43:33
[Laughter]
- 43:35
I think there's only like y'all got the
- 44:07
Bronx Zoo the Yankees stay here and the
- 44:09
Joker steps
- 44:13
y'all gotta pop I want that spot right
- 44:16
there on Kings bridge with the good rice
- 44:18
and beans oh yeah yeah where's Bronx
- 44:24
ranked in the borough's I mean we can do
- 44:26
that later I mean one man named um
- 44:31
hey yo y yo Bronx Queens versus time out
- 44:37
here but Browns number two for me
- 44:38
the porks the only my parents say that
- 44:44
they said my parents met in the Bronx I
- 44:46
wouldn't be here without the proxy big
- 44:52
social media gave the Bronx a [ __ ] we
- 44:56
are ma'am telly
- 44:57
where's Manhattan for you laughs which
- 45:00
Parliament a Harlem that count Harlem is
- 45:03
number two quiet skep I've had I've had
- 45:05
some fun in Staten Island before I even
- 45:06
had enough there there's no bro no bro
- 45:11
no bro no ho never call them it's no
- 45:15
home I can't think of a spot in the
- 45:16
Bronx that's no hos very funny yo
- 45:27
meeting Broncos is funny too I know that
- 45:29
great Mike you old Vargas I've eaten
- 45:31
wrong so we just get a bad rap man
- 45:35
tell me the Bronx is great there's some
- 45:37
days ladies in the Bronx absolute some
- 45:38
great ones great Dominican employer
- 45:41
looks at you lusty Kings women Burroughs
- 45:47
did not definitely it's don't think
- 45:48
people talk about oh how girl was trying
- 45:50
to console me when Kobe died get off me
- 45:53
she wasn't from the Bronx was she wait
- 45:57
till you leave Zygon cry cry like you
- 46:07
woken shorty crib I know what he meant
- 46:15
today don't this is so Kobe diets Kobe
- 46:22
passes Kobe transitions and there's a
- 46:25
new virus immediately soon as the mom
- 46:27
believes us you protect us the whole
- 46:29
time yeah man now it's coronavirus you
- 46:32
got to deal with
- 46:33
I can't drink Coronas no more no I'm no
- 46:35
act I'm drunk macaronis what y'all wanna
- 46:38
do just different beers yeah I got
- 46:42
Heineken I guess it's a new fire there
- 46:43
create some [ __ ] to kill us they don't
- 46:45
give a [ __ ] about us just gonna freeze
- 46:47
keep freestyling see what happened to
- 46:49
that [ __ ] that came in the mail
- 47:05
you take a 24 don't go to your mailbox
- 47:11
alright so we got the corona virus and
- 47:18
that was the biggest crock of [ __ ] we
- 47:22
ever sit as if the lines at the post
- 47:23
office weren't long enough right there
- 47:25
was one more at of anthrax II ones they
- 47:27
came out with SARS
- 47:29
Saur Saur ones SARS yeah
- 47:33
SARS is out here just sound like an
- 47:35
Atari game a good one to [ __ ] out here
- 47:40
um I don't know if y'all have kept up
- 47:43
with the impeachment hearings I haven't
- 47:48
I haven't as much as I like sir there's
- 47:50
nothing to keep up with he did it all of
- 47:57
the top officials have come out I'm only
- 47:59
bringing this up this is gonna be a
- 48:00
two-minute story John Bolten Trump's
- 48:03
former national security adviser has
- 48:06
come forward to say yo all that [ __ ]
- 48:11
y'all saying he did I was there he used
- 48:14
me to do it
- 48:15
what the [ __ ] are we what is a trial
- 48:18
about right yo I was the person sent
- 48:23
there to say hey Ukraine I'm gonna hold
- 48:26
up this 319 million dollars until y'all
- 48:29
investigate the Biden's and everybody
- 48:32
else I tell you I'll investigate the end
- 48:34
yeah this country but you see we just
- 48:38
passed some [ __ ] where immigrants are
- 48:40
not gonna be allowed to emigrate if they
- 48:42
look like a potential they may
- 48:45
potentially may potentially need
- 48:50
financial aid at some point so every
- 48:54
immigrant whatever period to come to the
- 48:56
United States right the whole we take
- 48:59
you're weak you're poor you're so like
- 49:03
the United States right now it was crazy
- 49:11
this is nuts yeah um all right the
- 49:14
Grammys the Grammy the Grammys the
- 49:15
Grammys happened it's Sunday
- 49:17
I didn't I didn't watch because I don't
- 49:20
care
- 49:20
III did not class I call it the
- 49:23
highlights the older I get the man the
- 49:24
master it is somewhat versed in its one
- 49:26
big corporate commercial pushing your
- 49:29
agendas for whoever you make the most
- 49:31
money off of and you make them weird
- 49:32
little stupid outfits and that's the end
- 49:35
odyssia ariana grande's performance I
- 49:37
bet you do sound she sounds great let
- 49:39
you did she could say yes how voices uh
- 49:42
Shh I don't want to compare this is
- 49:45
unexpected cape catch Ariana give it up
- 49:50
- oh I wasn't expecting the Maury
- 49:53
kaminari cuz I'm so much more
- 49:57
so looked at sure she could be from the
- 49:59
Bronx but I just you know what it is
- 50:01
every time I see her Ickes I'm like I
- 50:03
she's gonna stumble she's gonna stumble
- 50:05
tonight but I've never heard her sound
- 50:07
bad like never ever have our her sing
- 50:11
live and sound bad like and you see here
- 50:13
a lot of the great artists when they
- 50:14
sometimes they have off night yeah never
- 50:16
heard ariana grande well she could sing
- 50:18
sing yo what's up with you man without
- 50:19
doing
- 50:20
Demi Lovato you see her nah she can sing
- 50:23
sing Ariana's dope though yeah but sure
- 50:26
people in fat people can sing I can
- 50:34
agree with this theory or not I have a
- 50:36
bjorgen sing for sure that's a note so
- 50:38
short and I cannot sing me no it's all
- 50:41
about Stu separate things just fat and
- 50:43
then just short I know you're trying to
- 50:44
put them together we're not saying that
- 50:45
that combo that people insure people
- 50:48
that cannot sing at all and we're trying
- 50:50
to sing Oh blue I will form an
- 50:53
old-school trust some girls in my school
- 50:56
was like performing arts school
- 51:12
definitely does they do a check yo you
- 51:14
ever seen Fame someone to the high
- 51:16
school you went to LaGuardia I don't
- 51:32
know back back to the Grammys that I
- 51:37
didn't see so I don't have much they
- 51:38
analyze mmm told you blush was gonna
- 51:40
Whittle a [ __ ] yeah she cleaned up no I
- 51:43
I thought liz' was gonna clean up but
- 51:45
yes she Billy Eilish Lizza wonder why he
- 51:47
never dress like them when they clean up
- 51:49
like while he was dressed like Pun maybe
- 51:56
not the Gucci all the way down but
- 51:58
that's a like the baggy shooters and
- 51:59
stuff y'all she stole your frock [ __ ]
- 52:08
did you yes she was rocked out no no
- 52:11
nobody wants to say
- 52:12
all these people with money is stealing
- 52:13
Joseph Rock staff but y'all give an
- 52:16
improv course clown and me for it on
- 52:18
Instagram is fine hardwood have been
- 52:26
doing the flowy sleeves no you were just
- 52:30
wearing xxx Oh white tees and we're
- 52:34
flowing all right since parks Gucci
- 52:37
shoot is hard I don't want you talking
- 52:38
about
- 52:39
not that one the white one go back to
- 52:41
that screen I don't care
- 52:43
yeah you hate that stuff you would you
- 52:45
wear you wear that now I don't care
- 52:47
about this girl
- 52:49
don't Billy Alice she doesn't know I
- 52:51
just don't care as well guess her she
- 52:54
could be super talented and she's making
- 52:56
the best music ever I don't know so I
- 52:58
can't comment because I don't care all
- 53:00
the people that they put on the Grammy
- 53:02
screen to try to force me to care about
- 53:04
I don't that's me okay that's fine um
- 53:07
which is they very rarely put people on
- 53:09
there that I care about and when they do
- 53:11
it's only the teeth and promote so they
- 53:14
can make me watch somebody I don't give
- 53:16
a [ __ ] about I was happy to hear that
- 53:18
shoutout to PJ mode and I was happy to
- 53:19
hit at him and Jojo their armies of
- 53:21
record one yeah I was happy to see that
- 53:23
was good they went yeah oh I think they
- 53:26
were nominated twice mm-hmm was it
- 53:28
awarded would be worse though it was I
- 53:31
don't think it was well they might they
- 53:33
might have filmed it cuz they film
- 53:34
everything but I don't know who was on
- 53:35
TV yeah well yeah none nothing I would
- 53:42
do it the next day [ __ ] crooked
- 53:44
Grammy bored I mean I know they did that
- 53:46
the NIP tribute which was great but I
- 53:48
would have liked them to televise his
- 53:50
award actually during the full Grammys
- 53:53
but I think he won too didn't he yeah he
- 53:56
Walt Catlett the coward record and then
- 53:58
the rowdy rich incorrect in him record
- 54:00
correct J Cole got one off the r21 say
- 54:03
average feature right correct so 21 also
- 54:05
got one Friday that's what it's like all
- 54:08
that talk about no features he was
- 54:13
featured he was the feature like why
- 54:16
would all had no future talk man take
- 54:17
take this Grammy from the future yeah um
- 54:22
Tyler one that was that was big I loved
- 54:25
his
- 54:25
expect acceptance speech too there we go
- 54:28
let's pull it up pull it up let's pull
- 54:29
it up let's pull it up that's back to
- 54:32
our pop conversation yeah it was funny
- 54:35
because we were having that conversation
- 54:35
of how much we liked that album but we
- 54:38
didn't understand why it was in best rap
- 54:40
album not not mad that he would get a
- 54:43
Grammy from it but kind of what he was
- 54:45
saying I didn't make a rap album yeah I
- 54:47
really listened to maybe on the way back
- 54:50
right after we had that conversation
- 54:51
every listen because everyone yelled at
- 54:52
me and said it was a rap album there was
- 54:53
like six raps on the whole album I think
- 54:55
that's not a rap album and that's not a
- 54:58
bad thing it's okay to say it's not a
- 54:59
rapper exactly it's a phenomenal album
- 55:02
and there's phenomenal rap albums why do
- 55:04
we have to say that this is a rap album
- 55:05
right answer I don't have the answer or
- 55:09
you answer what what do you want me to
- 55:12
answer I just said it's not a rap oh
- 55:14
I'll gonna say answer why do they say it
- 55:18
to rap out because they're rich because
- 55:20
Tyler is a black guy that has made rap
- 55:23
before yeah so god forbid he would make
- 55:28
another type of genre let's pull up this
- 55:32
clip I feel what Tyler had to say I got
- 55:34
it right here
- 55:34
yeah even with all the genres lines kind
- 55:38
of being blurred it's still not a rap
- 55:41
album every so happy what though I'm
- 55:43
ecstatic it was my favorite album of
- 55:45
last year
- 55:46
mine too I think I feel I'm one bad
- 55:48
bunny a backhanded compliment yeah I
- 55:51
feeling oh hey I'll play a clip inside
- 55:53
I'm very grateful that what I made could
- 55:56
just be you know acknowledged in a world
- 55:59
like this but also it sucks that
- 56:03
whenever we and I mean guys that look
- 56:06
like me do anything that genre-bending
- 56:08
or that's anything they always put it in
- 56:12
a rap or urban Khaled category which is
- 56:16
and I don't like that urban word is just
- 56:17
a politically correct way to say the
- 56:19
inner words of me so when I hear that
- 56:22
I'm just like why can't we just be in
- 56:23
pop my candidate you know what I mean so
- 56:26
I felt like a half of me feels like the
- 56:29
the rap nomination was a backhanded
- 56:32
compliment like oh my little cousin
- 56:35
wants to play the game let's give him
- 56:37
the unplugged controller so he could
- 56:38
shut up and feel good about it that
- 56:41
that's what it felt like a bit but
- 56:42
another half of me is very grateful that
- 56:45
the art that I'm like this way I don't
- 56:48
do the radio stuff I'm not played in
- 56:50
target I'm in a whole different world
- 56:52
than what a lot of people here listen to
- 56:54
so I'm grateful and like I'm tied up I
- 56:58
know that I have apologized publicly for
- 57:02
my Tyler the Creator hate but in case I
- 57:05
am wrong on it I want to apologize you
- 57:08
know sometimes you hate people because
- 57:10
you hate yourself man okay man it's
- 57:13
really just all it was and you got to be
- 57:15
careful of that because you'll end up
- 57:16
hating somebody that's fighting the same
- 57:18
fight as you there's fans for the same
- 57:20
things as you that represents the same
- 57:23
things that you do and goes about it
- 57:24
just as abrasive as you do okay some of
- 57:28
your hey was from personal like being in
- 57:31
it's just comfort via just elevator riot
- 57:34
yeah yeah but we're having that convo
- 57:37
that's what I was saying to you I said
- 57:38
he's you he channels it differently but
- 57:42
he's also young and a kid so it's not
- 57:45
gonna come across the right way but his
- 57:46
intentions if you look are on the same
- 57:50
[ __ ] that you're trying to do and listen
- 57:52
we got no no no he was a kid he was a
- 57:55
kid when he was in the elevator with him
- 57:56
oh and like the early Odd Future stuff
- 57:58
younger man yeah he was all 19 or so
- 58:01
much time yeah yeah that's a kid yeah
- 58:04
that's good um so yeah his actions or
- 58:06
his actions came off abrasive and maybe
- 58:10
not as focused but they were still
- 58:13
living that as odd future in that
- 58:15
independent world and saying [ __ ] the
- 58:17
establishment at that time they were
- 58:18
just doing in a kid way which came off
- 58:20
sometimes annoying the way kids do oh no
- 58:25
I was into it but I see why people would
- 58:27
be sure I am positive that I have
- 58:28
annoyed people in an elevator I know I
- 58:31
have I even know I'd me in another way I
- 58:32
try to do it my mom still tells a story
- 58:35
to this day about me being like four
- 58:38
years old and she took me to work and we
- 58:40
got now
- 58:40
a crowded elevator in the morning
- 58:43
everybody going to work and elevator
- 58:45
went up and I said as a four-year-old
- 58:47
said when the elevator goes up my penis
- 58:51
goes up and you haven't changed I was
- 58:55
gonna say think about it you know
- 59:08
everything goes I wasn't even doing the
- 59:13
double entendre all right forget it
- 59:16
makes your surface tweet this weekend
- 59:18
make a lot more sense - yeah I wish
- 59:21
they'd stop doing that I know I really
- 59:23
wish it don't matter it doesn't dug up
- 59:27
some old [ __ ] tweets when at the time
- 59:29
they were like tweet topics and you
- 59:32
would stick to the topic and you go ham
- 59:35
on the topic or you're just horny
- 59:38
it was yo I'm so morning that's what we
- 59:42
was on that day and I killed it and yeah
- 59:44
y'all go years later hey when y'all do
- 59:48
that [ __ ] yeah y'all play corners in
- 59:51
elevator corner that was a y'all game
- 59:53
corners I got into court like oh no I
- 59:56
play hide and go get it okay
- 59:58
[Laughter]
- 1:00:07
at a point you know how to go get it in
- 1:00:13
the hell and you found somebody till you
- 1:00:20
wouldn't blame it didn't matter I'm not
- 1:00:26
hiding back to Tyler their Creator man I
- 1:00:31
loved what he had to say I agree with
- 1:00:33
everything that he had to say man why
- 1:00:34
don't you straight Riyaz my manners duh
- 1:00:38
they've been doing that this is why
- 1:00:43
puffs speech is important to me why well
- 1:00:46
give them backstory on puffing speech
- 1:00:47
well puff received the icon award award
- 1:00:51
and he went up there and told them that
- 1:00:55
no y'all work for us y'all work for us
- 1:00:59
nothing gets poppin without us and y'all
- 1:01:03
are public servants for us the end like
- 1:01:07
and we have to switch that we have to
- 1:01:10
switch that thinkin if you want if
- 1:01:13
you're not clear in that and you don't
- 1:01:15
stand firm in that you will be and
- 1:01:18
you're insecure in the art you'll be
- 1:01:20
tricked into thinking the people that
- 1:01:22
are just supposed to critique and praise
- 1:01:25
and whatever are in control of [ __ ] I
- 1:01:32
got something species labels to all of
- 1:01:35
them yeah labelled whatever institution
- 1:01:37
you want to name if you're not firm in
- 1:01:39
your art yeah you might be feeling a
- 1:01:42
little shaky you might be putting too
- 1:01:43
much of it on them and [ __ ] the Grammys
- 1:01:48
then that's why because they treat us
- 1:01:51
like second-class citizens and none of
- 1:01:55
us are people ever get up there and say
- 1:01:57
it because we'd be so happy to [ __ ]
- 1:01:59
beat here hmm why you can't even eat in
- 1:02:02
there for hours of me sitting here
- 1:02:04
[ __ ] starving
- 1:02:08
Emily may have a good concession stand a
- 1:02:10
food truck a nothing out there for when
- 1:02:12
you get out of the Grammys I know that
- 1:02:14
sounds you know when you think about the
- 1:02:16
Grammys but when [ __ ] is hungry ya
- 1:02:18
know oops I'm out didn't know that's why
- 1:02:20
puffs beats on board or even liquor
- 1:02:22
that's why Tyler [ __ ] in there that's
- 1:02:23
why Tyler speech was important that's
- 1:02:25
why you need the people that's not just
- 1:02:27
gonna fall in line and just not know
- 1:02:31
yeah I was really appreciative that
- 1:02:33
Tyler get up got up there and said that
- 1:02:35
as a winner you have to point that out
- 1:02:38
yeah the winning changes the the how how
- 1:02:41
I view this the changes the optics of it
- 1:02:43
plenty of losers have gone on this same
- 1:02:46
rant about the Grammys not being for us
- 1:02:49
and being some discrimination and which
- 1:02:55
to some degree they they are always
- 1:02:57
correct but it comes off differently
- 1:02:59
when you lose yeah
- 1:03:01
then when you win yeah I appreciate you
- 1:03:03
Tyler I thank him I congratulate him
- 1:03:06
phenomenal album great album great body
- 1:03:09
of work definitely served well deserved
- 1:03:12
yeah now 100% 100% he should have been
- 1:03:14
the album of the Year category though
- 1:03:16
without question
- 1:03:17
without a [ __ ] question what would
- 1:03:19
albums in that category okay Billy is
- 1:03:26
Vampire Weekend anything she wasn't a
- 1:03:32
couple two or three make sure Liz oh
- 1:03:34
when some yeah did anybody win something
- 1:03:38
besides Liz oh and Billy Eilish no got
- 1:03:42
it
- 1:03:43
listen I didn't watch the Grammys
- 1:03:45
well there was still in depth tribute
- 1:03:46
which we didn't get to yet the other
- 1:03:48
ones well I watched that the next day
- 1:03:50
well they gave nipping and rowdy
- 1:03:53
and uh Khalid John we know what they did
- 1:03:56
who wants to give us some analysis uh
- 1:03:59
it's not much analysis it was it was a
- 1:04:01
really good tribute I liked them adding
- 1:04:03
in a new song with rowdy and meek
- 1:04:05
dedication to nip I thought Meeks lyrics
- 1:04:09
were handled really well too as far as a
- 1:04:12
tribute song goes I love it they put
- 1:04:14
Kobe in the background as well
- 1:04:15
yeah last-minute addition there
- 1:04:17
obviously yeah no it was good it was a
- 1:04:20
really good trip
- 1:04:20
you from people that I know really love
- 1:04:22
nip so it would be handled correctly I
- 1:04:25
know that we're not supposed to say
- 1:04:27
anything bad about tributes know we have
- 1:04:30
we definitely have and I'm about to I
- 1:04:34
don't know I mean let me cook tell why
- 1:04:37
garner listen I know that we are not you
- 1:04:41
guys I know we're not supposed to talk
- 1:04:46
bad about tributes right I know that
- 1:04:50
principal got your goat and listen it's
- 1:04:55
2020 so I'm doing this thing where I'm
- 1:04:57
trying not to speak negatively about
- 1:04:59
people and things and even when I speak
- 1:05:02
negatively I try to do it in a positive
- 1:05:03
manner okay so let me start with Usher
- 1:05:07
is indeed a generational talent okay I'm
- 1:05:11
glad I'm glad we're on the prints one I
- 1:05:12
thought you're about stuff on the nipsey
- 1:05:14
uh sure I have an immense respect for
- 1:05:17
and has been nothing but kind and
- 1:05:21
gentleman like anytime I have ever seen
- 1:05:24
him I have no reason to say anything
- 1:05:28
negative about uh sure as a person and
- 1:05:31
about uh sure as an artist but with all
- 1:05:34
that said however how did uh sure get
- 1:05:41
picked to do the Prince tribute I'm not
- 1:05:43
really sure about that none of us again
- 1:05:46
no no sorry twigs will be there I didn't
- 1:05:49
know she was just gonna be on the pole
- 1:05:50
dancing she's like a I
- 1:05:51
she's funky you don't say him like I
- 1:05:53
thought she was gonna sing love uh sure
- 1:05:56
but I've never listened to any uh sure
- 1:05:58
music and when I can I can feel the
- 1:06:00
Prince influence he would be great for
- 1:06:02
the tribute yeah and there's nothing
- 1:06:05
wrong with anything that he did during
- 1:06:08
this tribute doesn't he just one sort
- 1:06:10
swing the one for it I'm almost willing
- 1:06:12
to bet he has an album coming when
- 1:06:16
leaking in confession much low even
- 1:06:18
leaking records snippets oh yeah one
- 1:06:20
snippet that last that last nipitiri
- 1:06:21
Kuenn he was in the studio which is
- 1:06:23
really good now that needs to come that
- 1:06:24
was really that needs to come but that's
- 1:06:27
what it is but more know at what point
- 1:06:31
is the entertainment industry ever going
- 1:06:34
to
- 1:06:34
put the art before its agenda uh never
- 1:06:38
probably a problem never what I probably
- 1:06:40
will not be alive to see it but I mean
- 1:06:42
we have to be clear when that's
- 1:06:44
happening and this is one of those
- 1:06:45
moments
- 1:06:46
y'all got Sheila E twigs uh sure
- 1:06:50
I wish there was some way for the
- 1:06:52
artists to either take control of the
- 1:06:56
Grammys or do their own Grammys without
- 1:06:58
label influence that'd be awesome like
- 1:07:02
it seems like that would be a easy
- 1:07:03
solution to I'm not saying it would
- 1:07:06
correct everything but if you didn't
- 1:07:07
have so many buddy buddy friend label
- 1:07:09
people controlling the Grammys and it
- 1:07:12
was artists and producers instead
- 1:07:15
writers songwriters I think it would go
- 1:07:19
a long way I think it would just have
- 1:07:22
survived nation brunch what well not to
- 1:07:25
be funny it would have to start with the
- 1:07:27
elite entertainers coming to yeah here
- 1:07:30
you know that the the Beyonce's to
- 1:07:32
jay-z's the puffs we are the elite
- 1:07:35
entertainers can bring together the
- 1:07:37
elite entertainers ya know but I'm just
- 1:07:39
saying they need to come together and
- 1:07:40
form some type of ceremony or award show
- 1:07:43
that honors music from because when you
- 1:07:47
put those type of people at the helm
- 1:07:48
yeah they know to bring in what people
- 1:07:52
from what sound what genre of music what
- 1:07:56
cuz like I say it's always it's all
- 1:07:57
black music anyway right
- 1:07:59
but when you recognize like oh this
- 1:08:02
writer this producer this engineer this
- 1:08:05
this vocalist this and you do it from a
- 1:08:08
standpoint of okay these are people that
- 1:08:09
have either worked directly with them on
- 1:08:11
projects or have been fans of their
- 1:08:14
music even bringing in people like
- 1:08:16
Smokey Robinson letting it on the board
- 1:08:18
people that have been around at have
- 1:08:20
written music Lionel Richie and just
- 1:08:22
letting them come together and say okay
- 1:08:24
this is who we think are the elite and
- 1:08:27
that deserving this and out of the
- 1:08:29
product that was put out this year but
- 1:08:31
this is who deserves this award for this
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for that for this at and then I mean I
- 1:08:36
think at that point it becomes more fit
- 1:08:38
but when you put people in a room that
- 1:08:40
you know have never really never made a
- 1:08:44
record yeah it's it's a little weird
- 1:08:46
it's like okay what do you got bass
- 1:08:48
it's awful right that's like if the
- 1:08:49
people that was judging the dunk contest
- 1:08:50
couldn't know yeah boy yeah never
- 1:08:53
compete exactly what yeah like you how
- 1:08:56
can you sit here and tell us what's how
- 1:08:58
I don't be dead until they get to Tracy
- 1:09:00
Morgan
- 1:09:01
maybe Kareem Dominique and Tracy know if
- 1:09:11
Tracy Morgan's judging my don't come
- 1:09:13
have a hard time well see ya problem
- 1:09:16
with Tracy Morgan as much you know that
- 1:09:18
would be wrong this is all hypothetical
- 1:09:19
obviously but in the Grammys the way it
- 1:09:21
works or at least seems to work is that
- 1:09:22
it's Jerry West and you know the buses
- 1:09:26
or whatever making all the decisions
- 1:09:28
instead of players mm-hmm that's the
- 1:09:31
analogy yeah let the artist make the
- 1:09:34
copy okay we're like a little bit of fan
- 1:09:36
input I'm not okay with us you're doing
- 1:09:39
a prince tribute sounding like Michael
- 1:09:41
Jackson you're doing records that are of
- 1:09:44
soul and funk but see but Nova Joey and
- 1:09:48
you want people to sound like or perform
- 1:09:51
like Prince or something close to wait
- 1:09:54
to take us back to our summer Walker
- 1:09:56
argument that we will never have again
- 1:09:58
here no one will ever sound like Prince
- 1:10:02
I get Miguel is close
- 1:10:04
who's the girl it's oxygen at least has
- 1:10:09
that Prince Spirit she [ __ ] they [ __ ]
- 1:10:11
with each other they made music Taylor
- 1:10:13
imagine rolling with forever
- 1:10:14
they say Prince love lose oh and I'm not
- 1:10:16
buying it well no you said he was gonna
- 1:10:17
produce Susan a band that's before she
- 1:10:19
got doofy
- 1:10:20
maybe so unfortunate I do family okay
- 1:10:22
what I'm saying is [ __ ] his voice just
- 1:10:27
his movements his air his his aura his
- 1:10:31
ambience his everything was Mike nothing
- 1:10:36
said Prince outside of Sheila he and the
- 1:10:38
band back there he did [ __ ] he did what
- 1:10:42
Saul he did like he did like kissing
- 1:10:44
some [ __ ] song did you but he did
- 1:10:48
records that cannot be performed in your
- 1:10:51
light arm be voice in a tribute and
- 1:10:54
totally aside from that let's say you
- 1:10:56
did the greatest job ever
- 1:10:57
Prince already told us a I don't want
- 1:11:00
none of your
- 1:11:00
doing my tribute he said it before he
- 1:11:03
died why we don't ever honor people's
- 1:11:05
wishes were selfishness yeah
- 1:11:09
selfishness even know uh I told worry
- 1:11:13
the night before the Grammys at one of
- 1:11:15
them after parties or some [ __ ] I seen
- 1:11:18
like a they were promoting a proper
- 1:11:20
Prince tribute with like everyone Miguel
- 1:11:23
darude chili Morris day like all of the
- 1:11:27
people that should have been a belong
- 1:11:28
line up and I was like damn that I wish
- 1:11:31
I would have been in LA for like I get I
- 1:11:34
can go to LA and partake in a few of the
- 1:11:36
like the cool Grammy events know we're
- 1:11:40
now supporting the Grammys roots jam
- 1:11:42
session is amazing every year like you
- 1:11:45
what sir I didn't go this year I went
- 1:11:47
they did two nights last year that I
- 1:11:49
went to another time ago this year but
- 1:11:51
it's it's the best event my opinion
- 1:11:53
humble I was too busy time to go no else
- 1:11:56
with the I was but the only event I want
- 1:11:59
to know solutions range what else
- 1:12:11
happened out there Rory come on you out
- 1:12:12
there y'all never you'll never be
- 1:12:14
somewhere and come back and give us this
- 1:12:15
school uh well I mean gonna scoop on
- 1:12:18
something I mean I honestly to go back
- 1:12:20
to the Kobe thing it was a really morbid
- 1:12:22
what happened when beacon Kenny saw each
- 1:12:24
other I was I was not in the store yes
- 1:12:27
she was she was shopping it to she was
- 1:12:31
dropping bags in there I was not even
- 1:12:33
know what the store that is expensive
- 1:12:35
funny part is I don't see not an article
- 1:12:37
of clothing misfire in there I was
- 1:12:40
peeking around that whole video way who
- 1:12:42
is this me kazoo this is the Meakin
- 1:12:44
Kenny altercation kamijo kenny is the
- 1:12:47
husband Nicki Minaj oh okay who you had
- 1:12:51
the pleasure of meeting in LA I said I
- 1:12:53
don't even see like the fire section you
- 1:12:55
know you going to corny clothing stores
- 1:12:57
but the fire [ __ ] is to the left no no
- 1:13:05
yeah I mean wasted anything happen to
- 1:13:08
this altercation there's well parks some
- 1:13:10
more why don't you wait for some
- 1:13:12
analysis from us tell em tell em white
- 1:13:15
Gardner I saw the same clip that all of
- 1:13:18
you saw today what noise does the white
- 1:13:20
guard to me that's what you put are you
- 1:13:27
gonna stutter yours I see that's what
- 1:13:30
you're gonna play before I start talking
- 1:13:33
it's cool no I'm gonna remember this one
- 1:13:38
we remember this man nothing happened
- 1:13:43
they ended up in the same store and
- 1:13:44
meeting and Nikki's husband exchanged
- 1:13:48
words the suspense this was blown out of
- 1:13:51
proportion
- 1:13:52
Nikki say y'all got a hundred people
- 1:13:54
outside me said I don't give a [ __ ] you
- 1:13:56
[ __ ] and then there was more now you
- 1:13:57
[ __ ] and that's all we got okay
- 1:14:00
we've seen this a thousand times it just
- 1:14:03
so happens that these people are famous
- 1:14:06
look so trash I don't know what store
- 1:14:10
that is lighting all right listen
- 1:14:13
another thing if you nosy people gonna
- 1:14:16
pull your camera out to give us the
- 1:14:19
scoop at least I have to do a better job
- 1:14:21
of recording this stuff yeah trash the
- 1:14:26
court Evers recording this was state
- 1:14:29
court record and that's what yes if you
- 1:14:31
gonna record record they win the same
- 1:14:33
store I guess some equals their first I
- 1:14:36
don't know who was with who but I'm
- 1:14:37
really glad that this turned out exactly
- 1:14:39
the way it turned out Lisa I'm glad that
- 1:14:41
they both scream at each other and then
- 1:14:42
everybody left peacefully but all of us
- 1:14:44
all of us could have predicted that this
- 1:14:46
was gonna happen at some point yeah yeah
- 1:14:48
well I don't know why Meek's Eddie wore
- 1:14:57
jeans with the Balenciaga and that's
- 1:15:00
craziness with the sock Balenciaga yeah
- 1:15:04
bootcut jeans over those is don't try to
- 1:15:06
vision it it's crazy
- 1:15:08
no it's crazy I just want to know is he
- 1:15:10
Trudeau
- 1:15:13
it's true that's like a whole deeper
- 1:15:16
like did he really have that over I
- 1:15:18
doubt it nice voice in the song made it
- 1:15:24
sound like me so that's just sick outfit
- 1:15:26
though no but he followed that will just
- 1:15:28
disappear nobody followed that where he
- 1:15:30
said yo you do wear bootcut jeans with
- 1:15:33
Balenciaga [ __ ] are you thinking he
- 1:15:39
really thought what's going on with her
- 1:15:46
he was really concerned people just
- 1:15:50
automatically assume he's talking about
- 1:15:51
homie who is he talking about I'm just
- 1:15:55
saying he could be that's what that's my
- 1:15:57
point he could be talking to anybody
- 1:15:58
that's true more like why do you just go
- 1:16:00
directly to him like sometimes that's
- 1:16:02
for saying sometimes outside people just
- 1:16:05
they'll make a situation out of
- 1:16:07
something to it together talking to you
- 1:16:10
okay but they're just it'll become that
- 1:16:13
and Joe are you looking for then when I
- 1:16:14
see one person it's like malls gonna
- 1:16:16
shut up when hear the sniffs I can't
- 1:16:17
find it I can't find the snippet I got I
- 1:16:21
got it I got it thank thanks to James
- 1:16:23
Harden the whole world heard this some
- 1:16:40
being beyond meek is funny
- 1:16:42
[Laughter]
- 1:17:26
you win bootcut jeans with Balenciaga
- 1:17:30
the [ __ ] [ __ ] is on your mind you know
- 1:17:33
call me call me when you get a minute
- 1:17:37
yes I'm just some concern so now that
- 1:17:39
you've heard them all right
- 1:17:41
shouldn't kitty have a problem with Duke
- 1:17:43
oh yeah that's why I said I was waiting
- 1:17:45
for this to happen there's no way he's
- 1:17:47
not gonna not run into me Kay and I say
- 1:17:49
so yeah yeah not that I've heard that I
- 1:17:51
mean I get it now
- 1:17:53
this was this was this was bound to
- 1:17:55
happen but I'm glad I didn't go any
- 1:17:58
further
- 1:17:59
yeah it's the ever situation where it
- 1:18:02
makes sense to fight over your ex no no
- 1:18:04
not like this no logically no but
- 1:18:10
physically horrible emotion is in in
- 1:18:13
logic really go to get like if I knew if
- 1:18:15
I found out that my ex is current
- 1:18:17
boyfriend is beating the [ __ ] out of ya
- 1:18:19
ten years they're not obviously if I see
- 1:18:21
him I'm gonna run down on him just out
- 1:18:23
of that but that's not but fighting like
- 1:18:25
I want her back like no we're not even
- 1:18:27
you might not even want her back in no
- 1:18:29
but if I if I know she's in a
- 1:18:30
relationship in an abusive or so me
- 1:18:33
didn't oh yeah for sure do you think
- 1:18:35
bootcut jeans and Balenciaga is abusive
- 1:18:38
to the culture I think malls hat is
- 1:18:41
abusive to the culture why cuz Keith
- 1:18:43
never won the World Series
- 1:18:47
you can't collab with the World Series
- 1:18:51
no I thought it's a kid too no no I
- 1:19:14
watched this and this wasn't a real
- 1:19:17
topic it is if man time just to hear
- 1:19:22
what sentences was coming from who okay
- 1:19:24
would you come up with couldn't figure
- 1:19:25
it out
- 1:19:26
couldn't figure it out no you know who I
- 1:19:28
figured that out I said you listen who
- 1:19:31
told who to uh let me talk to you
- 1:19:33
one-on-one Kenny said that the meek
- 1:19:35
right that's what it sounded like oh
- 1:19:36
that one sounded like said you can't
- 1:19:38
talk it in me yeah but I'm not talking
- 1:19:41
about myself why not cuz I'll be at the
- 1:19:45
rock nation brunch tomorrow and you AC
- 1:19:49
cheese yeah but no but if you're if
- 1:19:50
you're if you're saying that that's not
- 1:19:53
that's my thing if you're saying that
- 1:19:54
then when I see you here [ __ ] your
- 1:19:56
brunch yeah no I'm wicked I'm wit Kenny
- 1:20:00
on this if somebody said that about me
- 1:20:02
and then I seen him I would want to
- 1:20:04
speak like trust me me no once he saw
- 1:20:06
him in the store he knew it was gonna be
- 1:20:08
some words exchanged Mika's from the
- 1:20:10
streets he knows how that go like knit
- 1:20:12
when you see somebody I heard you saying
- 1:20:14
some [ __ ] about my movie about them mix
- 1:20:16
it up you got my ex who I love with you
- 1:20:18
you got your girl who you love your wife
- 1:20:21
yeah your wife your wife with you like
- 1:20:23
what are we doing yeah
- 1:20:25
and I I think it even in that there's a
- 1:20:28
way to handle it there's no way I look
- 1:20:31
no it is it's always a way to handle it
- 1:20:33
like as men you leave no no not even to
- 1:20:36
leave even okay so me you're a rapper
- 1:20:38
right I'm married to you used to be
- 1:20:41
alright
- 1:20:43
and you said something on a song really
- 1:20:46
weird if I can easy
- 1:20:49
I could easily approach it from a
- 1:20:52
standpoint where it's just not see as
- 1:20:54
men we don't know how to approach other
- 1:20:55
men with the ego and the aggression to
- 1:20:58
the side because I could easy see you
- 1:21:00
and be like yo meek let me out with you
- 1:21:01
for a second like you coming at me like
- 1:21:03
we never met this is my first time
- 1:21:05
meeting you you said something on the
- 1:21:07
record which I feel like it's directed
- 1:21:08
towards me like I don't have an issue
- 1:21:10
with all say wait time out there's a big
- 1:21:13
chunk that I think you're missing in
- 1:21:15
this having an aggressive woman bond you
- 1:21:18
yelling but as a man time I tell my wait
- 1:21:21
wait don't do that cuz you're right but
- 1:21:24
that's not the scenario I'm painting if
- 1:21:26
I want to paint one without pain one
- 1:21:28
okay not an aggressive woman behind you
- 1:21:32
yelling mm-hmm sometimes when a guy and
- 1:21:34
a girl and unharmonious Lee okay
- 1:21:39
oh no if that's a word
- 1:21:41
we'll make it a week we understood when
- 1:21:43
we fall when a guy ended that way or
- 1:21:45
when a guy in a girl and unarmed Oni
- 1:21:46
asleep and they both move on
- 1:21:51
harboring negative feelings but not
- 1:21:54
addressing them mmm and then the girl
- 1:21:56
gets with a killer mm-hmm allegedly yeah
- 1:22:01
I'm not so much this this is hope yeah
- 1:22:03
I'm a legend in the hypothetical yeah
- 1:22:06
[Laughter]
- 1:22:09
yeah a girl gets with someone who's
- 1:22:13
[Laughter]
- 1:22:27
[Music]
- 1:22:31
no-nonsense
- 1:22:32
that's mad Netflix and chill nights of
- 1:22:35
her telling you exactly why she harbors
- 1:22:38
some ill will towards this other guy
- 1:22:40
yeah yeah and she's looking at you to
- 1:22:42
protect her in the event that y'all ever
- 1:22:45
bumper you not you feel about homeboy if
- 1:22:47
you have a bump in them no it's not for
- 1:22:49
you to handle in a cool way actually in
- 1:22:52
a weird way that's kind of exactly how I
- 1:22:55
ended up screaming on safari on that
- 1:22:56
beach certainly I could have handled
- 1:22:59
that much smoother than that but but
- 1:23:02
Beyonce what Mona my fiance pumped me up
- 1:23:05
and put the battery in my back all
- 1:23:07
morning and I was round on a tray
- 1:23:08
I wasn't round up and I had to go home
- 1:23:10
with her shop you guys set up race
- 1:23:12
relations Sunset Park yeah I could see
- 1:23:16
that happening here Mars I'm saying like
- 1:23:18
you can't end it cool cuz now you leave
- 1:23:20
in the smoke no okay so here's my thing
- 1:23:23
I'm gonna take everything you just said
- 1:23:25
but as men right we know the automatic
- 1:23:28
Addai how far and how fast yes could
- 1:23:30
escalate so as your job as a man to say
- 1:23:35
I'm from the streets I seen this I seen
- 1:23:39
this play out 1000 anytime men have an
- 1:23:42
issue each other it's only money or
- 1:23:44
woman that's it but I'm something like a
- 1:23:47
real issue it's on site it's either
- 1:23:49
money or a woman your woman is one of
- 1:23:52
the biggest
- 1:23:54
stars in the world your wife right so
- 1:23:57
you never want to put any danger right
- 1:23:59
right if her ex walks in and he's had
- 1:24:02
words I think he's wrong me yes no
- 1:24:05
listen if her ex walks in the store
- 1:24:07
we're shopping we enjoying our day her
- 1:24:09
ex walks in cool right we know we
- 1:24:12
acknowledge he just walked in whatever
- 1:24:14
the first thing he said it said to his
- 1:24:17
wife or what I would have said to my
- 1:24:19
wife was are you comfortable do you want
- 1:24:21
to leave he may accept that what I'm
- 1:24:24
saying I bet me the first thing I'm
- 1:24:26
saying to my wife is are you comfortable
- 1:24:28
would you like to leave right right
- 1:24:31
depending on what she says if she's
- 1:24:33
comfortable we'll continue to shop now
- 1:24:35
if he makes his way over and he looks
- 1:24:36
like he wants to address me or my wife
- 1:24:39
as long as it's a respectful thing cuz
- 1:24:42
that's the only thing that has to be in
- 1:24:44
play at all times is respect mm-hmm so
- 1:24:48
as long as it's not an aggressive cuz as
- 1:24:49
men you know when it's aggression cuz
- 1:24:52
you never want to walk away feeling like
- 1:24:53
oh he got the best of me and because
- 1:24:55
it's all ego [ __ ] that's all [ __ ] is
- 1:24:57
based on his ego [ __ ] you're right
- 1:24:59
so as long as it's a level of respect
- 1:25:01
like your meek you can way too much
- 1:25:04
money
- 1:25:04
my wife has way too much money we know
- 1:25:07
where we come from from the streets of
- 1:25:09
Philly we from Queens and B we're not
- 1:25:11
going back to no they both get along
- 1:25:13
right so cool things happen you have
- 1:25:17
disagree ensues and you break up and all
- 1:25:19
the words may be it but my thing is
- 1:25:21
there's still a way even through all of
- 1:25:23
that because all you have to do as men
- 1:25:25
is remove the ego I agree I'm willing to
- 1:25:28
remove my ego to have a conversation
- 1:25:29
with any men especially when my wife is
- 1:25:32
who she is and you are who you are it's
- 1:25:35
like what are we doing in his store I
- 1:25:36
don't know how much money meek make but
- 1:25:38
everything he do look like it's ten
- 1:25:40
million which is why which is why he's
- 1:25:44
making a lot of money which is why you
- 1:25:45
can't jeopardize that every pirate
- 1:25:47
that's just my point where you go
- 1:25:50
doesn't everything look like 10 million
- 1:25:53
up it don't look like little million
- 1:25:55
yeah I'm not I'm not throwing that away
- 1:25:57
on the ona ona X in her her husband I'm
- 1:26:00
not doing it sorry see a video me
- 1:26:03
closely
- 1:26:04
you got a war nutrient new chain of rock
- 1:26:07
brunch oh and don't worry listeners
- 1:26:09
we'll be right back with our Rock nation
- 1:26:11
brunch deep dive what he wore new chain
- 1:26:14
Rock Mesa not war it says his party and
- 1:26:18
he was showing off the brunch to my hip
- 1:26:21
yeah brunch together party it wasn't a
- 1:26:22
brunch it was after Grammy weekend he
- 1:26:25
parties on low keeps trying to sneak him
- 1:26:28
out there we know he's our executive
- 1:26:30
producer it producing it oh what the
- 1:26:34
bike he's producing it or executive he's
- 1:26:38
been working on that for a while some it
- 1:26:39
looks really gonna tell Eddie's in it
- 1:26:41
yeah well yeah but yeah I'm know this
- 1:26:45
was an after party nice meet you you
- 1:26:46
can't risk that man you you worked your
- 1:26:48
way into you know the room with the
- 1:26:51
bigwigs now yeah like you can't
- 1:26:53
jeopardize that in a in a YSL store
- 1:26:56
wherever they was that late no you can't
- 1:26:57
jeopardize that that's all but aren't
- 1:27:00
both for those gentlemen and in the same
- 1:27:01
position that that was my next point
- 1:27:03
that's what I'm so sure they're as as if
- 1:27:05
that was if I'm my wife is who she is
- 1:27:08
and you are who you are like I'm not you
- 1:27:11
can say whatever you family living life
- 1:27:13
over here we good I don't care if you
- 1:27:15
said I had bootcut whatever I'm not the
- 1:27:18
one go by said of Boop I don't give off
- 1:27:20
like that's my thing
- 1:27:21
I don't give a [ __ ] about any of that we
- 1:27:22
live in life we golden overhead like I
- 1:27:25
don't care but I know why that's funny
- 1:27:28
about men and and ego with who cut even
- 1:27:31
if he did we're yo Nicki Minaj we'll go
- 1:27:35
and that can change in us yeah we're
- 1:27:42
fixing oh my like my sauce is getting
- 1:27:44
fixed up I get in your era this is
- 1:27:47
your meat I got rid of the boot cuts
- 1:27:49
money that's not I would've did it and
- 1:27:52
it's like yeah we out nothing about
- 1:27:55
kiddies it looks like you would know but
- 1:27:57
I'm saying Oh Joe you have to remove
- 1:27:58
that ego [ __ ] though because it's not
- 1:28:01
gonna end good for anybody man if my
- 1:28:03
girl is telling me to go to the car it
- 1:28:05
is whole story I know but but that's you
- 1:28:07
know I understand it but you the man in
- 1:28:08
the situation no I get it I know I'm
- 1:28:11
with you more I'm with you I agree I
- 1:28:14
agree with you beat a minute I agree
- 1:28:16
with you no more everything more saying
- 1:28:18
is 1,000% correct just sometimes they
- 1:28:20
just don't go that way especially
- 1:28:21
especially not saying that Nikki was
- 1:28:24
doing this but when there's a girl
- 1:28:25
involved sometimes Shane but you going
- 1:28:29
home with a woman that would look at you
- 1:28:31
and this is all toxic behavior and
- 1:28:34
mentalities they have going home with a
- 1:28:35
woman that looks at you a certain way as
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less of a man in handling a situation is
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the worst place to love a suitabie
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Hindman but then you gotta know the type
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of warming you thank right there to
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handle the situation the way I would
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handle it she don't want to [ __ ] me in a
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car oh please she been looking at me
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differently because she thought I texts
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Sonia I mean
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Sonia's have a long track record so you
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know Jamaican named Sonia hands back all
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right you guys the moment you've been
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waiting for
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who else is gonna break down the rock
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nation brunch like us I was not present
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so I can't bring it down you can still
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break it down you felt the Bob's he was
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out there you felt the vibes I did I did
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feel the vibes
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so everyone dressed up they didn't eat
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and they all had a good time took
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pictures and they went home a lot of
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speeches a lot of speeches hot speeches
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a lot of speeches Spencer
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roaring Rory before you continue mom is
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out channels summer what Moore was
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trying to give us shoe you you just you
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just cut me off I said I spent a lot of
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time saying how happy I was about Kens
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returned and I'm happy keV is healthy
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Kevin looks great
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everything about Kev's life right now I
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love some [ __ ] but I'm not even mad
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at keV I'm mad at y'all me the listeners
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oh the people with thumbs on the
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internet that made his speech go viral
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and say how motivational it was he ain't
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say a [ __ ] word ever yo if you got a
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book and you got chapters in books in
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but then when you have a chapter you got
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to write that chapter it was like damn
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keV I got your when's Monday coming I
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got to start working I didn't even know
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what he was saying he was drunk every
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time I see him he's a difference - he's
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giving a great speech every time I see
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him but he won't tell us who was in that
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car so there's different chatter a
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speech - it all but fam you gotta tell
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me who was in that car
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I thought they identified the people and
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how you went home with Joe you know
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we've known we've all been through some
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things all right I do know how how you
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walking home with a broken back in that
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situation
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I like puffs be today brunch either do
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well posted puffs it alright y'all y'all
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broke except for the people here he said
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y'all feet of Rome we in billion is
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everywhere who's outside just you and J
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Robert Kraft was there okay
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all right there was coal billionaires
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all right there mom puff-puff said yo
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it's 2020 and y'all know what that means
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Stephanie's not 2016
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no 2017 I mean when you think about it
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or 2018 that's a completely oh [ __ ] I
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didn't realize that and that's the end
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in my joke because state of the culture
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stars out there drinking champagne at 11
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o'clock look like a [ __ ] like a great
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time man Grizelda got pictures with
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Rihanna I thought that was fired
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lamenting the fact they had a better
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year Buffalo bro flicks my RiRi I like
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those pictures I really really really
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like those pictures I parks I really
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hate I really hate to tell you that uh
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that Santa's not real but I went I went
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to the dream gold thing guess it was
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there
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Kosar Benny sorry man whoa whoa whoa
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whoa wait a second Rory
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first of all you're at the dream you
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telling us that Benny the butcher went
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to dream Bill's party publicly did he
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butch anything [ __ ] was really was
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scared too butch nah he went in
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everything wasn't butched
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aired out the true villain creamy party
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a [ __ ] with video go [ __ ] by his heel
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ah each is out no hat no nothing I ain't
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supposed to be here look at me a few
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weeks ago three months ago trying to
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wine and dine at some [ __ ] - just gonna
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take my hat off I ain't no Shea but like
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she want me to live in like be
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comfortable myself I'm really happy
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about the Griselda Briana kill that was
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one other pics was I happy about oh my
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god snow Alegre she looked great
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she always was curse she look really
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good when she epics what oh and they say
- 1:33:44
it doesn't snow in LA oh my god now you
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shooing great before - look at this
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Queen no she looks really good a so uh
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what's that ethnicity oh man I'm back
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I'm back the skinny chick now I'm here
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now that's your bag back
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back skinny bike bike look at this green
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