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we just got his homeboy started singing

when you know she fed up but she's not

strong enough to leave together new

edition movie was the sickest [ __ ] I've

ever seen it was at a party

chilling everyone drunk Bobby usually

you're a group now welcome to episode

319 319 of the Joe button podcast I'm

your humble gracious grateful and highly

favored or maybe not so highly favored

now what happened oh I was viciously

attacked over my puffs stand me to Joe

don't worry about it goddamn it

I want to hear more come here keep the

same energy for rich dollars in Olivia -

yeah as a pre squad live dirty I like

that mangle lying like that

I know Liv was going through that that's

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it's cuz I'm in business with y'all [ __ ]

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in business with Congress relax nose up

romantic Atlantic yeah Viacom employers

out yo papi good lookin on that Europe I

did enjoy already right we're have they

by doing how y'all feeling well no I'm

good

there's a better way here feel good yeah

it's a better week how was everyone's

weekend give me the deets good man cool

Josh yeah yeah watch the game yeah yeah

we super-bold

yeah I did one of the most entertaining

Super Bowls in the last few years I

think you boycotting football in the

last few years

well from what I've seen I think the

last Super Bowl I watched was the

Patriots Falcao that was really

entertaining so what's the Eagles

Patriots couple years ago that's a good

game yeah it was it's the best in the

last two years

definitely I honestly only watch this

cuz me and Joe had a bit just only well

I would let us know

salut we all want you're one of those of

the fans one yeah we all wife and we'll

fans one because I picked the Niners to

win but I was rootin for the black

quarterback I was rooting for the Chiefs

even though my whole living room was so

I was trolling any time the Niners did

some good and that made it for a great

three quarters oh yeah it was great for

San Fran for three hey when my home's

was doing all this on my home like [ __ ]

yeah

oh man did I have a blast with my living

room he looked a little nervous there

for three quarters yeah I didn't know

what was going on moans I didn't think

that would last very long ago no and

they didn't yeah uh but the night should

have won that game yeah it was there's

the win yeah the night I should have won

that game so I want to Rin the football

a little bit I mean my homes especially

though when when they were up by ten and

they'd kept running out first down and

throwing flash and then second down and

then throwing third down every time yeah

they stopped running the football yeah I

could imagine the running backs being

angry at that yeah

homeboy just ran for a billion yards and

the NFC title title games if I'm great

kiddo I'm snuffing I'm snuffing kings in

the locker room I'm sorry

Garoppolo got to see me outside take

ticket and cleats know he really had the

greatest last Drive it was opening in

this is not a sports podcast but but I

saw a great queue to open a lot yeah

it's like a lot and a gorge wouldn't I

mean yeah Kerry Kerry Kittles

yeah Kerry Coons

got the ball he should have got Sanders

the ball in that bomb doubt ended the

game right there yeah but he's not Kirk

Cousins true or can or Kerry Kittles

that's true too

I enjoyed the game congratulations to

Andy Reid yeah I'm happy you got once

the fan base I'm really I'm really happy

you got one man it wasn't you was until

he won that I started just thinking

about you know Andy Reid lost his kid

it's been quite a journey for 19 years

without winning one getting near one so

it's just been a long road for that

Gilly what's up for us yeah I thought

the Eagles went twice not with him okay

yeah and he seems to be a coach that a

lot of players love well yeah they

you've ever played for Andy Reid like I

don't see players talking bad about him

so that's a good thing don't like to see

coaches like that one man mahomes

winning the Super Bowl MVP and is he the

first black quarterback to win Super

Bowl MVP why don't we toss it to our

stat section hey hey all you guys in the

kitchen anyone would've owned Google

what Marx is saying there's Wi-Fi in any

case it's still a big deal so

congratulations to him huh Doug Williams

don't get my dad started with Doug

Williams the comedian no um who did you

guys watch it with frame and Ian and RAM

and Brian and Julia and the whole squad

over their studio party he watched the

Super Bowl with the legendary and iconic

DJ Premier yeah no that's pretty cool

got some nice TVs over there where's his

rank on this list again sparks been no

more shot out to Viacom is probably an

industry thing I could probably last

time I shot with Viacom Parkes was in

that scene yeah one a one B yeah a shot

to me and more holding it down the real

real fast I was doing I didn't even tell

the guys that you guys were here and

y'all are telling me I did the intro you

did

you got Mallis here I didn't do that no

you don't have that one more let's here

I have to introduce you guys cuz that

signifies the start of the show okay all

this year parks is here Rory is here

Erikson is here save on the dawn has

blessed us with his presence

oh yeah I'm sorry I'm straight from the

save on pull up series shocked that you

could s in your schedule yes this

craziness Alexander the satisfactory is

over there and remnants here and well

I've already heard how you guys are

doing it's like upgrading Blake's solid

I'm solid Usami man I [ __ ] scream man

he's been ah he's been doing pretty good

he's gonna he's gonna need our support

after save on his branched off from the

need to know he started his own to leave

you oh he's branching off too much y'all

got to keep it down on even mentioning

to God how he's positioning himself

I mean positioning himself speaking of

creating wiggle room you guys speaking

of things wiggling ready to pot listen

quality control over the weekend through

their second annual stripper Bowl a

phenomenal name by the way

whether annual stripper pole stripper

bowl is just a really good name for a

stripper event during the Superbowl oh

yeah shot I mean I like dogs but is that

the name of that thing does the dog

exhibition become a Puppy Bowl it

strippers gotta mow some of those dogs

are beautiful of course um Quality

Control partnered with a venue I don't

know the venue because I'm not from

Miami it looks like a really dope they

look like a dome that's fire yeah they

put the visuals on the top and all that

[ __ ] it looked good who else is gonna

press the hard topics here

yeah they add [ __ ] pictures on the

ceiling they look yeah it was it looked

like a five honey almond apron may

promote it a stripper bowl second year

in a row they did this last year they

had a few problems with strippers

claiming they did not get paid

initiated look like you would expect all

of their famous friends to be there

throwing money in the sky and strippers

come from all over America to take part

in this and I'm still trying to figure

out why I was a little offended that you

weren't invited since you incapable dead

a job 'if you love strippers so like I

was yeah I was a little offended I can't

lie I was offended that you were not

there yeah I don't love strippers like I

do I know I know my bartenders like my

reputation the bartender the horses

bartenders yeah I love cranberry

pineapple and orange juice

blended yeah and the bartenders and

servers definitely make the best

cranberry orange and pineapple juice I

only don't understand why the stripper

Bowl is so big because there's been

discrepancies and how the money is

divvied out and here we are again I

think the venue made the girl sign

contracts that say you cannot pick money

up off of the floor and I'm sure some of

those heathens we're picking money up

off of the floor don't call them he the

details that come that are coming out

and aftermath are such as they had to

wait like seven eight hours for the

money to be counted up mm I mean that

many ones don't there are pictures

floating around of the strippers falling

asleep while waiting there's another

video about a stripper fighting for the

money for the money in her coach bag

from four different security guards

there are just some disturbing videos

with boys to men end of the road and I

feel like I know enough strippers -

where's I should understand why this

happens like like this mmm you don't

even have to know strippers to know why

this happened like this it just wasn't

it wasn't organized wait a minute yeah

tell me the quality wasn't controlled

obviously not drum roll please that's

pretty good that's pretty good yeah

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when it comes to the payout as far as

how many dances you're gonna allow to

dance windows which are difficult to

split which piece says which piece says

he had no involvement in mall but that's

what I'm saying no involvement in it but

it's your brand its quality yeah you

gotta have you gonna have to have

Sciences hey you know I mean like you

may not have no control of how many

dancers were allowed in the building and

the venue but when things go wrong

you're gonna be looked at with some

answers dreamville sessions they said I

like a flyer with with switched rivers

yeah I don't with strippers but that's

that's the point I don't know how they

did it how they hide these women but it

obviously wasn't organized well Annie

you're adding in a bunch of people that

are also there just to party and not to

throw money moment organization from the

strippers the strippers should I say

yeah organization business transaction

and you're saying we're throwing over

half a million dollars leave or do I

once to be with darker secret is all we

ever paying for them to stick their ass

no we mean you're not really there no

that's not at a point you think I'm

going to stripper ball and I ain't

trying trying to [ __ ] it's a little

tough though when you gotta wait seven

hours to get your money like if I'd be

asleep in the hotel by they they they're

to get paid I mean anything after they

get paid is like okay cool but the women

I didn't get paid listen and that's why

I empathize with them I empathize with

them as the guy that has dated

bartenders and tried to link after their

shift it's uh sonic trying to stay away

until the count-out is finished it's not

something that it's the worst

I would miss for them I wouldn't if you

land I would never do that in Miami

number one and number two Joe has been

trying to open up dialogue for years and

years now only to be shunned by the

masses you were shunned by the masses yo

okay

no dude some more rows up with you I ate

on my lingo no I thought it was good I

have been shunned by the masses when I

tried to open

dialogue about the different levels of

holes okay window I wonder how to open

this dialog we can open it when did the

podcast start yes

well come on tell us more we're not

shutting you I don't like this a space

now hold it gotta go out to Miami to the

stripper wall like well no it's not do

you got to understand women know that

there's a this is a big event all the

dancers knew there's gonna be at least a

million dollars thrown like what all of

these people in the builds between how

many people and that actually mats comes

in eight sort of to the regular people

listening to this podcast they have no

idea the stripper [ __ ] works when you're

a dancer you got a end dancers who unite

and fight this like if I'm coming to

shake ass why do I have to pay to paying

mmm well that goes back to the splits

which is 350 and this is back to my

conversation about the different level

of whole fam I don't want the whole that

can't afford the 350 pan nor do I think

this terrible wants them no but it's not

that all it's once it starts is probably

what 250 for the night and that's a big

issue for women yeah yeah probably 250

for the night I don't assess it's in

Oakland I want the girl that's having a

hard time with the 250 you don't have

enough customers to come and take care

of this 250 for the night if that's not

profitable enough for you nah and and

that's what that those are the stories

it always come from strippable

is horrible like they defeated the girls

the girls waiting on the money Danny

look like the ice it's the Trump hole

and detaining kids videos well what was

that what was the actual issue that that

was happening they didn't get paid what

they thought they deserved yes they

weren't paid what they thought they

deserved in a timely fashion I so who

got money 550 points I'm fighting for

the ones who got the money it wasn't

organized mean who got it

that's a great idea they just have to

we're gonna get into the thick of y'all

in your Pope Pope got a dude

Plouffe took all the strippers

publishing oh well now who gets the

money cuz I'm sure I saw cardi get on a

video and say she threw 50 - man 250 K

through 150 break it down for us Queen

Queen cause let me tell you something

how everything goes right

QC partners up with promoters not

partner no well they get from they

partner up with a with a a event you

know and what he's gonna team up with

someone yeah you see there is a connect

so we don't really have too much control

quality can't control the quality we

don't know how the money is gonna guess

play [ __ ] ain't really [ __ ] thinking

about that [ __ ] just going over there

to throw the [ __ ] money

the strippable they chant we trying to

make it for a tradition I personally I

mean off sessemann then she gets into

how much money every once again okay she

was suggesting that a lot of money was

thrown them I'm sure they're well know

because they know they could just get

250 straight from you they don't got the

deal with it's nonsense that's funny

did y'all see sometimes Adrian Brown is

funny a lot of the times he [ __ ] a

lot of the times no I did not see what

Adrien Broner said about how are you

living life I'm sure how are you living

life let me give it to you some sauce

[Laughter]

they say y'all just got you out

thousands just now y'all just left the

place I got a thousand apiece I just

left the place seven times I had to pay

350 just the strip so y'all walked home

with 650 man what I'm saying is this man

bring it down

an invaluable last night see y'all

should have just you the cash that me

ten dollars I get it it's just you know

it's a great idea just they have to got

to get more control ironically got to

get more control great idea the venue

look dope a lot of money was being

thrown around but to keep it to keep it

fly you may have to make sure the

dancers get paid more than $1,000 man

the older you get the more you just

realize how much of a robbery strip

clubs are and the whole oh I the whole

idea of it you go to the strip club

there's a bar there you're gonna have a

bunch of drinks strip club eats off the

bar strip club is gonna charge all of

the girls there to be there then they're

gonna charge you 20 percent on every

grand that you get in there yeah

then they're gonna when you when you

take it and throw it to the girls and

the girls bring it to count out they're

gonna take another ten percent from that

and I don't think many people know any

of this stuff when you think no that's

watch the other strand and a lie and a

lot of times the money strip club hate

that we're dishing out right just need

to be paid and and if you know about the

walkthrough deal with most rappers or

entertainers they're giving you a you

have house money you're just throwing

the money back to the strip club like

we're gonna give you your half your fee

and the other fee is for you to throw

back to us yeah so when they have a

contract that says eight dancers you

can't pick any money up off of the floor

because we're gonna sweep all the money

up count out at the end that's toy

that's kind of that's kind of torture

you're making girls wait for you to

count a million dollars quote-unquote

that's nuts if you think about it oh

yeah but cool y'all wait right there

we're gonna

these money machines count up this money

we're not damn it I don't think that

they're divvying up whatever they count

No then they got a fudge yeah some fudge

it happens for all that I just don't

know there's worth it

fine a [ __ ] just overpaying for [ __ ]

let's just Miro like the grand is going

for thirty right now I mean that means

[ __ ] should only be whatever you know

but that but if you know if you milk the

game correctly more if you're aware of

this of what's happening in the strip

club and you know that everybody in

there the guys that going there to throw

money at the two bartenders they're

busting it down and you know what the

strip club is taxing them on the money

bus now you see white chicks they're

trying to sell [ __ ] on the side and if

you know that you can get it for the

cheap yeah yeah but that's I'm saying

dudes are overpaying and I say it all

the time like [ __ ] overpaying for

[ __ ] man

well I mean [ __ ] is kind of like the

Nasdaq at the end of the day it's gonna

go up and down it's it's the number one

users it's the number one thing it's the

first thing that was ever sold so much

Jesus um so some you know some years

it's gonna go low some years it's gonna

go high you just got to play the market

before she should never cost more than

coat well they go hand it in push you

you can live coke and [ __ ] together in

a bundle deal y'all get mad when Nicky

bundles [ __ ] up don't get mad when

people bundle up Coke and [ __ ]

yeah but [ __ ] is more steadily

available for all didn't Nick Nicky

looks amazing in sound great yes you

guys know I'm not saying that because

now there's a relationship present

mm-hmm

there's a relationship president who you

and Nicky yeah you have a relationship

gallica war or lack of one but there's

something there okay I don't want the

fans to think that my opinions are

swayed because of the people that I

speak to and I like her verse on that

new record with the video are you dick

eat now hey man but I will ask you guys

before we get on the stripper thing have

you guys ever made hurry rain

speaking of the strippers can't touch

the money have you ever been in you yes

section and made every right we

approached this quarry yes oh yeah I did

not all of us have made it rain

absolutely

see I know the part the price of [ __ ]

something always make it rearranged

for those who don't know what Ruane

means it means you throw your money and

you pick it back off the ground and

throw it back in the air

mmm to make it appear like you are still

throwing money can make Vow honey little

light scent though buying vagina thing

and i want to get off of this because it

just doesn't sound right promise first

it's the first business evidence is not

tableau yeah but and that's part of my

issue and that's why I've slow danced in

the Bible in purchasing that is why I've

slowed down he pardon the stripper why

because the strippers back in my day

mall Oh God I still your day with them

no it's not losing them got it now pump

it up streams verses easy streams I'm

losing go ahead have a blast over there

back in the day mall the strippers kind

of they kind of played into the fact

that their job was to sell fantasy to

you mm-hmm

that's what I'll say they played into

the art of Illusion mm-hmm so in that

how they took care of themselves was a

little different how they dressed was a

little different how they carried

themselves was a little different

because we were selling illusion we

weren't selling [ __ ] y'all then the

game advanced to a place where always

cool to [ __ ] the customers now the the

New York managers started putting

pressure on the talent I'll say Talent

bartenders and strippers not the club to

put asses in the seats and that can be

pressure filled when every when three

times a week you're trying to get dudes

in your phone to come sit down

dudes kind of got hip to that too so now

just started [ __ ] whoever just just

hit a lick or to keep their bar full and

when you start just [ __ ] whoever

without caring that you're [ __ ]

whoever know what you end up looking

like you're never looking like you

[ __ ] whoever which change the escort

game not that I'm here to allegedly your

pop yeah unfortunately I have a little

bit of experience in it in this field

which is why every time they announce

strippable albeit a great business idea

for the businesspeople

puffs it's great this talent is gonna

get robbed why same premise and music

because the talent is unaware of just of

just all the ways that they shave money

yeah which leaves you at the end of the

night like the artists responsible for

all the money on top of you and you

getting paid after when these strippers

are getting paid after nine hours after

the gig not at night handling it Sam

that's all I have the I didn't want to

get into a social tripper seminar like

like I'm the stripper Whisperer on

master class so so specifically in New

York does that make the strippers like

the lyricist and the bartenders are now

like the SoundCloud turn up rappers yes

cuz they're getting one is doing the

real art form and doing it well with a

real talent and then the other one is

just reaping all the benefits of the

customer my favorite escorts then when

got back into the soccer player hustle

that's a hustle though yeah that's a

good hustle I'm happy about the escorts

doing it the soccer horses bike quick

Emirates flight

it's the biggest biggest sport in the

world you hustling backwards with the

dude that plays on the bench for the

d-league yeah they got big teams too a

lot of players yeah and the dude over

here in the states that you [ __ ] is

none the wiser about homeboy you over

there without flash laughs that's less

like our money though if you want to

yourself York New York district the

strip club I'm trying to take into

account strip clubs and other cities I

got me talk about strip clubs I never

think about New York City no that's why

I'm trying to make it clear that the

bartender's or the the pull at strip

clubs in New York it's not like other

cities New York City where trash when it

comes to strip club with throw money at

bartenders that is the crazy [ __ ] in

world I'm telling you if I would be the

proudest girl and no no knock on any

bartenders I love y'all I've respect

though get your money with this three

nuts that I'm paying for the drink and

then no but I'm just saying I was going

to the strip club when the dancers look

good and they look better than the

bartender's like that's all I'm saying

it was a great time all I'm saying is

that I would have zero shame

being a woman woman have woman having a

corporate job and then going to shake my

ass in the nighttime me Joe that's why

Joe is not a woman you say you would

have a problem I would have zero problem

Joe be moonlighting like the girl like

the girl with the cool day job they may

be nursing a day time and then they do

the nightlife thing like they do their

best to keep it like Christopher Reeves

and it's Superman your job good night

Joe I'm coming straight to my day job

please Joe's Delia stripper working his

way through college you got to keep that

why we're on if you guys want to address

what was said about me last week what

was said about you that I'm coming out

of the closet in 2022 Joe I beg for that

just so we can take this podcast the

next level man if he was gay

think about the heights that we could

take this plan this whole entire

platform I don't know a bit about me I

don't as a good shot but I just wanted

to see if it goes in a night shot from

who but he brings up a good point but oh

okay well good why do you think that

that would bring it bring the show to

the nice limos asking Paul yeah cuz I

think I think Joe coming out let's cord

blew it up with GE they all wanna let me

get my [ __ ] off

now you're getting [ __ ] oh I think that

would I think the gay community is a

really loyal line I don't know I do I

think they're a loyal community because

he's worried gay yeah I hang out with

that community why do you so loyal cuz I

think they because they're gay what

they've been through a lot together so

they stick together

so if Joe came out the closet black

people that's a separate point to what

I'm saying no we've been we went through

a lot together and black people are

loyal

I know so what's your point to watch so

why if he comes out as gay like the show

will just go to another level

cuz that's a whole nother community that

will you know the applies now

oh wait Malcolm wall cornered Rory

against a race wall oh you support the

gays but not gay is not a race Joe jay

is not no black I know but it's not a

race don't try to get me yeah see what's

going on listen to whoever said that I

don't want spend much time ensue ever

said that Joe was coming out the closet

in twenty to twenty twenty that's fine

if you are Joe yeah we're supposed to

let you know I'm not saying it there's

any truth to that well you do know if I

was gay I would carry a closet around

with me to hide in it or come out of it

no you see him out you know that I would

storm out of there does anybody know how

fast I would barge out of the closet to

let you know who I am no I'm just

putting it out this so that people don't

think that we would have a problem with

that there would be no problem that's

the other reason I gotta finish high but

I'd be offended if people thought we

would be offended at Joe P Billy Porter

versus Joe Budden red carpet wars this

should be fired yo let me announce to

anybody that needs to hear this out

there you guys I don't know who needs to

hear this but in all of Joe Budden

contracts in the details it very

astutely says do not come out yeah you

had a clause it's like Santa Claus

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who to me you're not tough to me

you're not the measuring stick of which

Street [ __ ] listen to uh you know

strippers day money man I don't like

that [ __ ] yeah well shut the [ __ ] up

[ __ ] this contract so oh and all of my

contracts it very clearly states that

none of my people that partner with me

can have any influence on my creative

can alter my creative can dictate or

enhance my creative say that you just

want to say dictate you said anybody

that you what partnered with and any of

my deals have no authority Authority

over my creative okay let it be known I

have to I took so what does it have to

do with your gayness nothing okay

alright I'll ask the really tough

questions shoot what did you guys think

of the halftime show I love do you know

I love why would I know that parks parks

loves me a bunny

I even tweeted during the halftime show

those great sweet parks is losing his

mind right now when he came out I was

like oh yeah parks is standing on top of

a couch somewhere yeah I enjoyed it

we spoke off mic comes on fire here's

the throw to the plate here in jail oh

right you can no no I know you're going

to no no I'm gonna stay comfortable no

Joe is done coming I'm waiting for the

signal from the dugout I'm chilling

giving my real thoughts on things I'm

not [ __ ] on Shakira or jello or the

halftime show or the four songs they did

oh you wanted a full concert experience

Beyonce and Bruno Mars gave us four

records no they didn't know it's a short

halftime no dude it's not that long

Beyonce and Bruno Mars gave us at least

35 to 40 records

it was a double album no I thought it

was a good halftime show I look I really

did I enjoyed it

that's that's what I got a little

political statement I [ __ ] with that I

liked music I just like looking at JLo

right and she's from the Bronx so you

guys yeah we [ __ ] with work of war her

hip flying like they don't they don't

lie Jill white lie no she's 40-something

45 I think yeah y'all got save on

working he's pissed

good good where did some stage don't

know they was damage there they were

they wanted 20 old there's a lot of

gratuitous crotch shot now now you're

right it wasn't amazing performance they

both look great hips was intact anything

was wonderful yeah that's crazy man you

know so you don't believe it you don't

believe in aging you [ __ ] with the

bondage there's a lot of bondage [ __ ]

going on there about nothing that was

happening on there they danced they

danced great as as great as you could

dance at that age hmm and which was

great which was great it was great but

it should have been great and we should

have expected it to be great because

that's what they've been doing for the

past 30 years so yes great dancing and

amazing production in lights and smoke

in fireworks

what did you want word music Joe want a

prince to fall from the sky with two pie

stars don't even a blasphemous all of

you for even mentioning to God in this

nursery that's what you wanted I didn't

say that this was anyway incomparably

you don't see the prince

do you remember Prince oh yeah so don't

mention Prince no more nothing everyone

purple no big

great purple every one of one guitar God

was in the building that night that's a

phallic action but that's we show it's

cool they halftime show was cool okay

don't pay me to be the hater of things

it was a cool show it was a great look

for bad bunny in teh Belvin - [ __ ] that

this is available YouTube now yes out

there well more healing is available on

YouTube

I won't point this French perform we are

two available YouTube I remember that no

I've recently watched I would I was

telling you that he said that can you

make it rain harder that was that was

one of my other favorite parts of all

the commercials during the Superbowl

like seeing Hulu and YouTube and all the

likes of them advertising when

television saying hey [ __ ] television I

know you guys are watching now but when

this is over they're not gonna want to

watch this fools owned by the [ __ ] TV

station so they were gonna [ __ ] yeah I

still liked it yeah um they owned by the

TV stations anyway right are you guys on

this kill kill Kyle Shanahan wave Donna

kill him why yeah give us some

background uh because he was offensive

coordinator of the Falcons when they

blew the largest lead in Super Bowl

history against the Patriots coupled

with blowing a double-digit lead in the

fourth quarter of the Super Bowl here he

has been outscored 41 to zero in the

fourth in the second half of Super Bowls

both the second and the first and second

largest comebacks ever have happened

against Cal Shannon Shannon so I'm

asking you guys are you killing Kyle

Shannon yeah I wouldn't hire him come on

don't make this little [ __ ] wouldn't

hire don't make this all Jalen in Jacoby

I can't can't say I'd hire him but uh

you know that isn't boy he's apparently

really bright oh yeah but there's

something to be said for you know being

really bright until the lights hit but

there was a oh yeah nice that there's a

platform kind of game changing plays

that grow up low didn't hit so I can't

really kill him for that like that

Emanuel Sanders play would have won the

game out at better it right there or all

of the George Cato plays or all the

George Gillett plays so I'm not gonna

kill for that

I do think they should have ran the ball

more what same same thing happened in

Atlanta why would you not just run the

ball out but it made for a much better

Super Bowl so honestly no Cokie I

enjoyed I enjoyed the second half of the

game much much more to maybe his

fuck-ups yeah and then I read the

Gruffalo's contract is like the exact

opposite of guaranteed like that they

can get away from that before the draft

really yeah without having to pay him at

all well I dafuq how I [ __ ] up so I

wouldn't be surprised very few people

have like real guaranteed contracts yeah

but quarterbacks usually is a little

safer somebody gonna pay up the list is

getting longer for whom all has to fit

fix their contract Olivia clean up my

bed ma clean up what Davis take it to us

you have some yeah we get out the Super

Bowl real quick let's talk about the

splits yeah talk about Jimmy G splits

clean up I mean I'm like go talk to you

man I'm saying the creator's create but

what they talked about it was there was

a feeling yes the energy when they came

up when it came to puff amazing like

that I'm just telling you name like that

why why you had to know they wasn't

gonna feel you know I did not yeah yes

you do you scream you on the side of the

creators and did not be on the solder to

create us my entire argument last week

is that puff is a creator nobody so much

nice that's my point

right so how am I on the side of the

creator when it's two creators no but

the thing was it's it's clear that mace

is in the shitty he has a shitty do

that's not clear

I said last week that I can't pull

anything from this based off one side

that's fair you think I thought I was

being more than fair last week who's big

do you think la Reed is a creator la

Reed has been a creator he graduated

away from that but has there been

sessions where la Reed has participated

in the creative yes does la Reed have

some of that pub we've seen those doors

to just yes just curious yeah la Reed

yeah he goes in that boat for me hungry

there's a bunt there's a few people that

belong in that boat and that's where the

conversation is nuanced small that's

what I was saying not like it's not that

they kept mentioning that I was crying

during de la Sol versus Tommy Boy yes

that's a very different yes I was

there's a very big difference in that

situation if I can interject briefly

Tommy Boy they came to De La Soul came

to town but for what I understand from

what's been told they came to them with

the album full of samples and Tommy Boy

said nah don't worry about it you're not

gonna sell no records anyway don't clear

the samples we're not gonna clear not

even samples just straight records yes

straight opposed in love Dale I'm just

let's be clear straight records and then

now we're saying now we're not giving

you better splits because you got to pay

off all this sample [ __ ] that's [ __ ]

up that's them being negligent and

saying now don't do that and then

holding you to that to add to that my

beef with with them there and why say

I'm always on the side of creators Tommy

Boyd not only didn't believe in that

project you put it out that was the

extent of your role so now yes the pub

has outperformed whatever agreement

y'all have had you all should have the

decency back to your argument last week

the decency to open that conversation

y'all were not a part of the creation of

this I don't hold puff to that that's

long before I started working with puff

that's my that's my issue that's why I

was hurt that's why I was offended

because if there's one person in this

business who has proven himself tonight

acquiesce that way it's me no look at

your phone now

was a big word yeah but you know my

thing is again the the the bigger

conversation was us enslaving each other

like that was the bigger conversation

like we shouldn't do dirty business with

each other just because the music

industry is dirty especially when we

control music like what if I think we

all agree with that

yeah that's all I'm saying like don't we

got to stop putting each other in [ __ ]

up positions just because we feel like

the music industry was built on a [ __ ]

up position mall okay but let's do this

let's do this now and a lot of what I

say comes from kind of my own experience

and [ __ ] mm-hmm let's do this when I was

19 years old or how old I was 20 years

old I don't remember and I turned on the

TV and saw Webb next to clue at a Knicks

game or maybe saw a web anywhere with

clue or just saw what they was doing

right and the situation that they had

planned on doing which was the same

thing anybody was gonna back then hey I

want to build a studio will form

production team money Street [ __ ] will

create the music will use our

relationships together we going right

mmm at 18 I was willing to make that

trade mmm in that trade what was told to

me that was standard is 50% of your

publishing is relinquished from the RIP

a lot of people who got the old model

row well notice what I'm talking about

old times

yeah I'm talking about old times I'm

talking about 2000 2001 and I'm not sure

that's old I think that's still

happening but carry on for the most part

good go get well that's the thing today

that doesn't still have to happen cuz

there are no viable outlets but if you

want to go straight ways to get a deal

today but if you wanna if you wanna go

straight major you're gonna run into

that in 2000 you were giving up 50% of

your pub right and this is my point just

follow me this may be long so you give

up 50% of your pub mmm and I was talking

about me right

for me I was locked into that for 18

years we're on top was old half of my

Publishing even after they had long

stopped having anything to do with the

music business and I fought for it with

the publisher and with them their

argument was we have put in too much

there you're not asking us for something

that is yours you're asking us for

something that's ours because of what we

put in and you have to acknowledge that

and they kept it a buck with me because

we were so fly fam why would I sell you

your pop back it's mine and I worked for

it

yeah but when you say it's yours and you

work for it my thing is if no their

thing that right my thing is this if I

have a label or management company and I

see a young kid in the hood and he's I

know he's got all this talent I have

money I'm able to put some money into

them it should be this simple the money

that I spend on you as long as I make

that we could make money together but at

any point when you say you're listen I

want to own all my publishing as long as

I may back what I put in I'm cool I

didn't take a loss so I'm not but I'm

alright but that's that's not it's not

that's not good business you know you

don't do you don't do business to break

even and then you're gonna do what you

if I don't speak to you for 20 years and

I'm still making money off of music that

you wrote music that you created if it's

music I'm a part of right we don't need

to do time all you did was like get put

me in a position to be heard cool great

we made that business happen together we

had that moment we made history together

but now if we haven't spoken in 20 years

so that's where that I'll sit and still

be making money off of me but that's why

not because I'm not making money off of

you yes you are how you have 50% your

publishing theoretically I don't know a

basis publish I wrote these songs this

is my [ __ ] yeah well I mean that's

you're getting a chunk of it that's not

just music that's right any of it that's

kind of the point of investing like but

outside a music period like say I'm just

saying if they say if you want to open

up a restaurant and I have the bread to

open that restaurant with you and that's

even that's your forte but I'm the bank

for this point and I'm saying right give

me 15% once I get my money back then

I'll take 15% profit of everything you

do from there that's just a point of

investing that's not

that's not a music thing that's just at

some point if I say listen I want I want

I want all of my publishing and I have

the money to pay you like here's however

millions of dollars like you shouldn't

make it difficult at that point for me

to hold my publisher technically

hypothetically he spent way more than

the two million dollars

Oh note but this goes back to what I

said as long as you made back what you

put in it shouldn't be a beef we don't

know that he made back what he put in

I'm sure he did he probably did but we

donated a lot over there no that makes

for a lot of moves luck

we will mace wrote a lot of music though

so debuff he's arguably the second

biggest artist ever over this I think he

is the second biggest art service oh

okay somebody kept the lights on puff

you don't think makes had anything to do

no I think mace a big chunk out

especially at the big dot yeah that's

what I'm saying so I'm just holding some

type of position of hypothetically half

of his pub 25% I guess if he's busting

it down with puck he said he wants all

of his publishing back that's not that's

not his call why is it not his call I'm

just don't understand I'm not artists

help me understand your artists how or

you know you've been comments if I bring

all these ideally when we went into

business together this is what I know

and I have viewed this this way long

before a puff relationship mm-hmm one

thing seems to have been consistent

through every bad-boy project ever

that's with boy bands girl bands little

known rappers big rappers there's a

certain sound that is consistent even

when these artists have come and go mmm

the sound remains the same hmm so I

argue when you say I wrote those records

yeah writing is one aspect of publishing

right if I go in and my IP is the record

and I instruct you on what to do as

we've heard numerous times from bad boy

artists about puffs mm-hmm

then part of this publishing the creator

publishing is mine okay if you come here

that's just my hired all the producers I

put together all you did is come in and

fill the blanks not saying that mace

didn't do more in that play

hypothetically mmm in any situation and

very common you know this people get a

record and they just fill in the blank

mark you deserve it's not the people

that made the whole canvas deserve a

piece of that money of course I do and

we're joking around bringing up rich in

olivia.olivia but I thought that that

was a very poignant example Olivia pops

back up on love and hip hop saying yo

you robbed me I already checked toon

core I've spoken to everybody in place

and all of this money went to Dollaz

unlimited which is your company and rich

replies and says yeah I own that song

that is where the money was supposed to

go it was mine I was trying to get other

people to sing this song yes we're

friends oh but how do you expect this to

be divvied up if you know anything about

the music business now was that I won't

say that that's malicious but how don't

you understand that aspect of it no I

understand the businesses business

understand that but my thing is there's

a lot of [ __ ] up that's 50% of his

part mm-hmm

if he has 50% of his part mm-hmm does

that change this argument for you if

he's now coming and asking for the other

50% that's yours for the work that you

put in oh and that was what I was trying

to articulate last week yeah if he maybe

I got that wrong somehow and I don't

think it's I don't think it's 5050 I

think him and puff maybe bust down cuz I

don't know what they're well publishing

also gets sneaky because it's 200

percent that's so yeah I'm not usually I

don't use numbers here usually when a

publishing thing would be a 50/50 for to

break it down but with the parent

company I don't know what they took they

would get 50 - yes so hundred and then

the other half would go the other

hundred would be 50 the producers 50 -

the writers of which that's why I'm

saying I don't know if Mase owns 50% of

his publishing

that's all I'm saying and I don't want

to beat people down with this yeah pub

talk because it is complicating it is

confusing it's nuanced yeah it's a lot

but at some point we got to have the

call

about artists selling their pub when

it's convenient for them because for a

long time that was the way to do it no

it's still happening with these uh

what's this [ __ ] called where you can

buy people's uh oh the catalogs and if

we talked about it on this yeah we

talked about before but I forgot the

name but yeah dream dream was the first

person that that made it more popular

yeah

sold it for some stupid amount that he

probably got more there's still a lot of

doing it people still selling their

problem

bottom line Joe is not with anybody

getting robbed or there's perks yes that

was that was my biggest thing like we

just got to stop robbing Etan's yeah

having someone signed something that

they're not aware that they're signing I

think on a moral on a moral ground I'm

speaking to that which happens every day

especially in business but that's what

I'm saying more grow what you're signing

but don't really fully understand the

implications and it's hard to fault

someone because you don't really realize

what that means over the long term like

say yeah you might have had a good

lawyer he might had all that [ __ ] we

don't know I don't know I'm speculating

but in general you may have a good

lawyer that can tell you what that means

but you don't really feel what that

means until you know twenty years later

you're like [ __ ] I signed away twenty

million dollars for 20 grand or whatever

the case may be I guess my advice with

the lawyer thing is get your own lawyer

even when you're doing business with

people and you think that we that's our

lawyer yeah it's no get Joan well do you

believe there's a such thing as

friendship and business friendship and

business dependence is not related to

talk by these puffing based on now I'm

just oh yeah

I believe that especially it depending

on who the parties are like if we grew

up together and we were crazy fly before

you know talents reached a certain level

and business came into play and

absolutely they because before this we

was we was down so absolutely in that

case yes he's definitely friends before

because without this [ __ ] you should

sleep on my couch I used to we fought

[ __ ] together we you know I'm saying

it was like [ __ ] we grew up together

right

so absolutely in that case if there's

people like that going into business

absolutely

librarian

that sometimes can make it even more

complicated yeah I mean I'll I can speak

to this directly because I have a

business with my friends and of course

it always brings up awkward

conversations especially in the

beginning that maybe you didn't want to

have because that is immense and maybe

he doesn't contribute what he thinks he

contributes to certain conversations but

I think if there is a love there and

there is a trust there and you have a

really open conversation about these

things you'll get to it it'll take some

time and some arguments but if that's

really your friend you'll find some

middle ground that hey we can live here

if we're friends we not ever be fan of

money no and I would get I would get a

business so I would had the French even

in the equation yeah but that's why I

love that Quincy Jones dock when he said

me and Frank Sinatra never had a

contract with each other we were just

best friends we had to talk we shook

hands and nobody nobody robbed never

robbing any anybody it was like he wrote

for me I wrote would you do any of your

business like that today well fanship if

it's my man like that absolutely I would

because you know that that's never gonna

come in between yeah like you have to

have that type of it I'm just saying you

have to know your relationship with chip

where who you talking about obviously

Quincy generals know him and Frank

Sinatra was this is my guy like I was a

terror that I would I would say no to

that that question did mall has a lot

more male friends than me too um I will

say that I absolutely am in business

relationships like that

currently you know friends if that's my

homie weight ain't no piece of paper

going make us keep our word I'm

currently in some of that as well yeah I

would never we honor it yeah honor what

like I have a handshake deal in place

with with some people yeah we do but

that's it like I said deal in place with

quite a few people I do good business

like I try not to [ __ ] people having

business that's it I hear you and I have

those as well but I think any time I was

seeking the business and you want the

business to grow and when it grows

sometimes it's tough to keep track of a

lot of things whether it be expenses

hiring business managers higher

lawyers hiring a bunch of people that

really have no interest in your

friendship or the handshake that you had

and I think even when you have other

businesses besides the one you and your

friend have things can interchange

expenses can come from one thing to

another thing because you're just not

just negligence is as human beings yeah

so it's helpful I think everyone should

always spend that $1,500 to it just put

it in writing yeah just call it a day

spend that it's gonna lessen the

headache or at the very least you should

have some type of email or text or

something so there's something

oh I the old school copyright write it

on a piece of paper put it in the mail

and mail it to yourself I'll do the old

copy right should I do something you

should do something for me what

supersedes all of that is being as

valuable as you can be at all times I

agree

oh absolutely like absolutely if you

have all the all of the value that you

think that you have you'll be able to

get the handshake deal off and have

people walk in line as long as you're

valuable yeah and if for you that's in

perpetuity then goddamn it it should be

in perpetuity but and we'll get out of

this because it's become a morbid but

even when you are boring yeah even when

you're really really close with someone

and something may affect your life where

you're not as valuable now you're

looking at your friend like I know I'm

not valuable now but we friends you said

he was gonna do this yeah so that's

where it comes weird but let's move on

and have fun I don't know Jeff the jvp

boys are on the second night of a

back-to-back

swag they played they played it's up one

last night and triple overtime was the

Super Bowl halftime show too sexy

tune in next week they're crossing to

win in 50 years oh yeah by calling her

low Spanish girl all right come on what

other Super Bowl stuff is there to get

to uh home and Beyonce sat down during

the national anthem

oh yes yes news people see somebody that

has a deal with the NFL and the NFL's

biggest oh yeah I thought Jay was gonna

suck in job and be up the Hat off some

in the flame think that long when you

thought it was over

just when you thought that Joe was the

only one that was throwing the cape on

for his man monster big keep it for

yo-yo home I got you this one's for the

city for the city he should sit that's

how it feels

oh look man we don't even do our whole

Vinge's Forum thing oh we got well we

got a forum y'all all right come on

defend it react

give me some in-depth analysis here

what's happening tell the people was

going on during the national anthem at

the Super Bowl they panned to jay-z and

Beyonce from shaky cellphone footage and

they were sitting down during the

national anthem cool you guys you guys

that's this is right what they're saying

is wrong is that old told Kaepernick

that we were past

kneeling and we need to take action

y'all hypocrisy transmat for him to sit

down later

why can't you know why can't you also

act and sit I was about to say like what

that's just kneeling yeah like that that

people just you just take things out of

that that doesn't mean he has to wear

star-spangled banner' shirt and salute

let's be clear he was in charge at a

halftime entertainment which Joe hated

so but I mean narrative that y'all paint

leads our audience to believe that I

hate everything and I don't well you do

it to us so we're just returning or on

defense yeah I just have yeah I just

don't get a run to the same media okay

cause y'all sure like yeah I'm not I'm

not eat and that as easily impressed as

you guys the end or or maybe we didn't

care that much and it was cool like well

that was cool everything from Joe is not

a personal attack on you guys I miss to

other people out there not you and Parks

oh I thought we having conversation

amongst people in the room well we can

do that too I think it's cool you sure I

used to sit befall it is though that's

the finest what I'm thinking anything

about y'all took it somewhere different

if I personally can if it's a fact if

you do a poll and the people say that I

could arguably create a better

star-spangled banner than whatever's

playing like I'm gonna sit could

definitely make a better star-spangled

oh yes Beyonce would destroy the [ __ ]

star-spangled banner day will kill it

they will give us some ills you to Bob

to a vibe streets need that a vibe

imagine starting a football game with

this instead

oh not it's gonna be a good game you hit

this way you want to hear this before a

football game or your national anthem

it's gonna be good game you bring the

food stole football game how can you not

go out then throw for over 400 yards I

think the white people would be just as

confused as Jennifer Lopez and bad bad

baby and that money and homeboy J both J

Balvin would they want a few they knew

who was performing over you mother say

to me that them white people knew what

was going on on that stage ya know why

people like them white people love

Jennifer Lopez their pop stars yeah they

love JLo my conversation is about the

white people present not about white

people in general yes to be those types

of pop stars white people have to like

you Miami the white the Latin community

is very large in mind so majority yeah

nobody know white people at that game

were confused about okay and and and we

can talk about the white people that are

there how why you asked me I'm black in

Queens you were confused at the

Superbowl crowd would be there this

isn't your typical Budweiser parking lot

white people that can afford the

Superbowl I think those white people

knew the pop stars maybe not so bad

bunny in jail van but y'all don't see

any movement behind the people props in

the front you can't see it's dark I can

I thought you and everyone look I did

look red lights is standing still don't

worry about it don't worry about it move

on move on well what else do we got

nothing as much else from Super Bowl you

know I'm always super ball [ __ ] y'all

Oh after the whole sit down all right

now let's get into it then what's wrong

with the whole sit down everybody like

the whites they would be mad at that the

whites always said nobody was always

definition except for the white what was

I named Tommy Lauren Oh

we shouldn't even say your name yeah

okay I'm sorry

I don't know what the job was over not

saying her name thing yeah she's

boycotted she's a clown okay those are

the two band names from the jbp worm TL

and a B and whoever malls dating that's

not even an initial bring that up yeah

joke don't do that don't do that Joe

come in here and tries to put the team

on his shoulders for the lack of things

we get from Rory in parks cuz you guys

are engaged well I think we're pretty

good for being I think I think I wait we

I think I'd give it up for my my

situation you do boy Wyatt parks think

he got the bro we never shared aside

from Jeff Goldblum [ __ ] chicks that's

still the wildest [ __ ] ever to me but it

says he's number one on the list

Goldblum it's true Jeff Jeffery see it

yeah you do an honor Black History Month

every podcast this month I want to

highlight a black man or a woman that I

are that I respect that inspires me that

motivates me we certainly do not have

enough episodes in a month for me to get

to all the different names that applies

to but I'm gonna try my best to give it

a shot here so hey

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all right I know he's enough Stiles

Stiles is making me angry now and first

up on my black people who inspire me

list would be drumroll please that was

an interesting drumroll you guys I'm

starting off with will Packer yes

screen man I know you don't know about

will Packer pull up whatever you can

find will Packer to me is amazing he's a

visionary he just be ahead of the curve

with [ __ ] he paves the way and leaves a

path for all creators to come behind him

uh and my affinity with will Packer

starts in just what he does he has will

Packer productions he has will Packer

media he has will Packer everything will

Packer is an executive will Packer went

to fan Mull which is a Florida am will

Packer in 94 started his own production

company independent will Packer put out

a movie under that imprint that what

cost 20 grand to make and eventually

became the number one movie off

independently at that time he went on to

finagle his first deal with Universal uh

and if you're unfamiliar with will

Packer his accolades are way too long

Think Like a Man right along right along

to girls trip almost Christmas Straight

Outta Compton note The Wedding ringer

night school what men want he basically

just he did the Tyler Perry you did

very absolutely and because that's the

field that I'm aspiring to get into well

Packer provides me hope he provides me

hope he's wanted a few black people in

Hollywood that probably won't hear and

no employees countless amount of people

and he did it all on his own

yeah anybody who has that type of story

inspires me actually let me read a

little bit because his story is his

story is intriguing to me let's see

let's see let's see Lee I was family

started filmmaking with his colleague

and future business partner Rob Hardy

while participating in an internship

with veteran producer Warrington Hudlin

in 94 Packer and Hardy produced their

first film chocolate city for 20 grand

Packer helped brokers broker a small

distribution deal with Blockbuster Video

and his story just to me it says like

sometimes you know when success is on

the horizon because it has to ride with

your success like multiple successes he

was just successful with everything he

did and he wrote that to where he wanted

to be 20 grand for chocolate city Packer

helped broker a small distribution deal

with Blockbuster Video after graduating

packer and Hardy moved to Atlanta

Atlanta and co-founded rainforest films

Packer produced and oversaw the

company's studio financed and self

financed films and distribution projects

I've got to hear what's going on there

in 94 like to have an idea to execute it

properly and then secure the proper

funding for somebody to continue helping

you with your vision in the nineties

that's such a young age yeah yeah man in

2001 movies destroy great film

rainforest films first movie to be

released theatrically grossed over 1.2

million and became the fastest million

dollar grossing film independently

distributed by African and African

Americans like listen to that so he

didn't so he didn't just blow them out

of the park

at first he grossed 1.2 million like his

climb is gradual and you could see it uh

weird let's see there's a unless he

listened you ran for

in 2001 oh wait ran four films in 34 we

don't get by that in 2001 Packer helped

broker a deal with Sony to produce and

distribute urban films including true

sequel Troy the ESCO escort and motives

the firt the film locked-down released

on home video under this rainforest Sony

collaboration was one of Columbia

TriStar top selling independent releases

no 5 that's his story all the way up

until now bottom line he just won

everywhere that he was and outside of

that as a black man he found a business

partner that was unwilling to let him

ever walk out of the door and that's

what happens when you went so now he

puts put Kevin Hart in position Tiffany

Haddish in position a lot of the black

people to go on stage at these award

shows and they start getting to thanking

people they think will Packer and that's

where that's that's my understanding of

where he is today just constantly

putting black people and white people

might have had but Black History Month

so not about that black people in

position to flourish at whatever it is

they want to do Lisa Raye being one of

those people will Packer just a huge

inspiration to me and outside of this

moment I don't know if I would have ever

said that anywhere I see involved we

look to him directly right with the ESEs

new film is he well with that I didn't

look to see I wouldn't be shocked I

wouldn't be shocked either that's why it

sounds like I just think he would

definitely want to produce in 2017

Packer launched will Packer media a

branded content and digital production

company in partnership with Discovery

Communications and universal pictures so

this is a relationship going for about

20 years now with Universal they just

would not let him leave once he started

winning and they provided him the

necessary tools for it to get them to

continue to win that may not be

important right now but in a few months

we're gonna come back in and talk about

how important that is finding a partner

who gets your vision and won't let you

leave hmm so I would like to just

personally thank will Packer during

Black History Month for all that he's

done all that he's accomplished and for

continuing to be a huge inspiration and

everything that everything that I do and

everything that I'm trying to get done

yeah I think that's a good pick

dope that's a real real good pick yeah

those is a good idea when you hit us

about that and uh I wasn't sure if you

guys thought

Cornie no I don't think it's corny at

all I don't think it's corny at all when

else would we do this

no I mom I don't want to be that guy but

again I don't think we should wait for

one month do a month you know I agree I

agree with you that's all but that's why

I wanted to use this opportunity get

into not so much

Black History Month sure that fell in a

great time but with Kobe passing listen

I don't know man I don't know when the

dudes I [ __ ] with he's gonna go okay so

I'm getting that respective yeah where

are you say I'm sorry

well yeah I put and it's funny you

mention that I put together a list just

that thought was a great idea

and obviously there's so much to pick

from I would feel remiss not to start

the month out without bringing up combat

Jack Reggio seasoning that was that was

number one on my list as soon as we had

you had brought that up I was like I

can't not start with Reggio say you

stole my black information yeah I can't

um and this one's a little close to home

so I don't know how I don't think I'm

gonna give his long and dope detailed

thing as Joe just did but yeah I don't

think this podcasting game we're cops

Jack you could just say y'all know the

[ __ ] vibe y'all know the [ __ ] like

especially within empowering the the

black podcasting boom that has has come

um you know you could say anyone did it

before or after it doesn't matter he

took it and made it a thing he started

the Def Jam of podcasting to me and did

it with will not if Jerry Falwell

speaker last figure up to him got it

tastes credit okay um and I I watched

all that happen in and watched him not

ask for anything in return at all and he

was so early in on getting in that

network it was never a money thing I

know I know we had a long conversation

about the the friendly handshake thing I

saw combat do that with so many people

and put them in a position that they had

no chance in their own brain that they

would be there right now

combat put put that and instill that

into them and said found me nothing

just to just be around me right now [ __ ]

with you I think you're talented just

soak up game yeah and yeah I couldn't

start this this thing without starting

with with Reggio say I agree I agree to

Godfather this [ __ ] rest in peace to

combat and something that you know I

paid and today back then when when uh

when combat was putting out like two and

a half hour episodes three hour episodes

like boy did that seem like far-fetched

to me it was like it was like

unimaginable yeah that somebody could

sit and talk for three hours and have

250,000 people listening to that and

begging for more his interviews belong

in museums like agree there they're nuts

that he was able to do that and even if

you got there late and felt like he was

early you went back two years like wait

he has this interview with him

with her what the [ __ ] I think that's

the part Rory I was just talking to Ian

about this all earlier actually that's

the part that selfishly is really sick

about death from me like when these

people go

yeah they leave remnants behind and they

inspire generations and you know all

that but when people go they take them

with them hmm like Kobe's gone and how

Kobe did Kobe with all the gracefulness

and yeah we see the moves in NBA but how

Kobe did Kobe is going Steve Jobs left

in the iPhone will never be the same

they're just gonna improve the camera a

bunch of times yeah combat Jack left and

how Jack did it is it's just you're not

gonna get that sauce anymore Stuart

Scott rest in peace I love you and I

miss you how he didn't know how he did

what he did we are not gonna see that

again even though we turn on TV on and

see people attempt to emulate that yeah

um and I just think we take that for

granted a lot of time so rest in peace

combat Jack not to jump on your [ __ ] oh

no no no I wanted us to be a group group

discussion boy do I love you I think you

should be paid [ __ ] in perpetuity for

some of the [ __ ] that's going on out

here but I know you up there and you

proud of us I know you up the end you

proud of us put some

on my face I definitely know he is cuz

back to my original point of fan I don't

I'm not trying to put y'all on a deal

like I just want to see this podcasting

thing be great Jack was given our game

it Jack gave our game and this is Joel

[ __ ] I have a thing for people that

transition gracefully hmm like like a

Shannon on Daugherty from 90210 jisub

just came out and said the she has stage

4 cancer

that's my first time hearing that but I

put myself in her shoes and I was like

god damn it has to be tough there has to

be tough to not only find that out but

to deliver that news to your audience or

to audience that's not yours and what

it's like I put myself in them shoes to

what it's like for your final days Jack

left just gracefully man he was posting

pictures at the instant yeah absolutely

not yo we're gonna beat this thing

Stuart Scott same thing I go back and

watch his on SB speech a bunch because

his speech and it's one more nose espy

speeches it's like some of the best

speeches I've ever heard so I listened

to him a lot yeah

alright I'm getting all Freud [ __ ] now

no I wanted it to be a group thing I I

didn't want to put too much thought into

it cuz I was close with him so I'll get

teary-eyed I don't do when they say well

mm but I just wanted if we were gonna

have this conversation I could not do it

without speaking about Reggie that

that's all it was cuz I don't think I'll

do justice on mic to that I could write

something nice but no I'll get too

[ __ ] up so I just wanted to mention

Reggie I love him to death and I think

he should be mentioned if we're gonna

start this segment because I think is an

amazing segment and he needs to start

with it okay frames should be in this

[ __ ] have to chuck with Chino I'm gonna

start I'm from a small town of Salem New

York called Elmyra people know he said

many let's do it I've reached just the

other day I read that it was 19 I'm

sorry 2018 it was rated the sixth worst

city in the country to live in for

african-americans based on income

ownership and incarceration rate

mm-hmm so uh does does that go with the

prison that's there does the I'm sure it

has reasons into jail okay

so I wanted to highlight much more I'm

is happening in Elmira do a lot for us

in jail seems like a lot well it's their

state well it's the state one that a lot

allowed to from New York City if they

get sentence the state time we'll go to

Elmira correct

you probably heard in rap songs in

didn't I have no I yeah I didn't know

that was that much though to prisons in

the jail yeah that's a lot yeah so I

want to highlight Ernie Davis from

Elmira

well he was born in Pennsylvania but he

went to high school and graduated no

more so how I am first black Heisman

Trophy winner okay first by the Redskins

and then traded to the Cleveland Browns

and passed from leukemia before you ever

played before you ever play correct on

this horrible yeah but from all Myers so

it's pressed simple no and more you not

need to cool for sure only now is nobody

now somebody I think it's overlooked a

lot in a business and entertainment or

Byron Allen alright yeah yeah I think

Byron Allen is not some a name that

people bring up a lot of racial [ __ ] man

how can Byron Allen be overlooked in

business feels like a multi-billionaire

it I think Byron out I think he gets

lower he's worth a lot but he's just

somebody that I think a lot of people in

our culture don't talk about and don't

know about and um I think he's

definitely just like a black man that we

should salute and that we should uh

applaud for because he's broken out a

lot of doors

he's made a lot of things happen in

entertainment and in business coming

from a comedian yeah you know I mean

that's his essentially his start was

comedy yeah forget that part

yeah so he still shows out syndication

mm-hmm yeah still I believe he owns a

couple networks I think we talked about

him briefly he owns a whole

entertainment studio we talked about him

during the Comcast debacle correct

yeah but he's somebody that we don't you

know we don't talk about a lot and

in our culture and a lot of it is

because I think a lot of people don't

like the fact that he's married to a

white woman I think people know some

type of way about your liking with Meg

do it though right talk about it and I'm

fighting for gender equality we're gonna

start there but yeah I call same to

sellout every morning

yeah but um yeah Byron Allen man if you

don't know about him you should read up

on him they'll be surprised about how

much he's done and um you know I believe

he owns a couple networks if I'm not

mistaken that was the Comcast do you

believe that was the civil rights deal

I'm mistaken he's a big deal he's a big

deal entertainment definitely and I

think that he's somebody that we should

definitely uh give their flowers to

absolutely for sure you guys that green

note those were four really good picks

to set this segment off yeah no I think

I think it's a good segment mm-hmm it

just played out differently differently

in my head when I ran gay I'm gonna try

to bring in an idea can you hit us with

a voice note so I know he was like

really a little concerned because Texan

is is what made it read a little corny

to me yeah all right now they gotta I

gotta get my voice on this one all right

now that was dope dome there was please

listen to stylist B time is money out

the album this record is from Tamas

money is a really underrated styles p.m.

all of his albums are under atoms

I think gangsta and gentleman gets his

due I love styles being his wife I don't

know if I said that enough that I do

yeah I love them um alright what up what

up what up what up what we got

listen silly me at home right because

I'd be home hayden and when you home

Aidan you kinda are relishing Monday of

from Monday to get here so you could

kind of get all the scoop that you

missed mmm so I was waiting for all the

Monday tea to come out and Monday got

here none of the tea came out I was like

you know what the [ __ ] were they doing

in Miami where I can't get any of the

tea and then I realized no there was a

lot of [ __ ] going on just about [ __ ]

that I don't give two [ __ ] about ie

this javante versus his baby mom [ __ ]

yeah cool it happened we got to talk

about evil [ __ ] about what's going on

there as long as she didn't get hurt

quick ah money bag yo versus re he

pulled her wig off they got into it I

don't really care about this I missed

that one too

what else French and 50 I saw that I saw

that we back at it mmm wasn't enough

therefore the story for me to be

invested there but they just stopped

yeah I'm a little over 15 French it's

it's weird at this point like I think

makes it make some music like no that's

that's kind of my thing it's not a real

beef like stop they just they just

rolling back and forth don't make some

music together yeah I agree

and Megan Jeezy mmm that was the other

Superbowl story that was so

uncomfortable it was a feeling of it was

a feeling these white kings taking our

queen low motel 6 on top Florida Hilton

give me all these rooms listen I'm

trying not to say nothing bad about you

what can you say

no not about hammer but about you ain't

got his pub how about this clip pops got

his pub - this is mine here's a smooch

bag now this reminds me of you know you

know how girls keep their gay bestie

well wait that's that's what she's like

a gay bestie video like after the club

wearing a bed I don't got nobody to like

hotel this what it looks like when you

got to swoop over here do with the silk

shirt like come on fam look like he was

good for I [ __ ] with Jeezy no I like you

I don't think he's is doesn't look like

this doesn't look like Megan was she had

the hots for him this look like let's

just do this for the gram and I'm a

flirt with this white boy no you being

used as a prop this is what I think like

[ __ ] don't be known when they props if

he was a problem just showing something

to more off-camera okay showing him some

others that is ish you kept the files we

got I'm talking bout this video check it

all the video I never saw that bull now

that you have it's the same night same

fight one of us captain's ain't playing

right oh we've been here and we been on

this that looks like a prop videos all

I'm saying like I know that Vestas gets

to get to get the gram up in a roar like

you can't let these Queens use you like

that is all I'm saying

did he beat or not I don't know I'll go

speak that can't speak today always have

fun I'm just saying like that that video

just didn't do to none what is it man I

did a lot of things egg what do you

think Meg be getting big drunk and just

be living the way big drunk women live

yeah all right the conversation off of

mega Megan G easy style

ru shoots grace great let's take this

conversation off of them for a second

Rory let me do

provide what you just said in your

history of dealing with the girls that

get big drunk yeah when you want run

into one that you would like some

intimacy with yeah I don't know is it

difficult for you to attain no okay and

Megan look like shooting sensually cuz

we're in weird times she's true Megan

look like she'll get drunk but you have

a good time Fleur kiss and that's what

I'll never let you beat that's what I'm

saying more that's the big drunk girl

I'm talking about you Luke Jeezy took a

whole no I don't know Joe no say but

this this looks a little proper still

just looks like it's putting grant that

was a her pager his page oh no he was

giving it up you don't make not doing

that she what are you talking about she

the whole thing yeah what is he doing he

a CEO sent me that vid

look at the leg choose into it I can't

speak you know I like when when a woman

lets me do all this and I don't have to

finish the commitment of sex the best

part yeah I have to go to the club thank

[ __ ] you and VIP rub all on ya ass

[ __ ] tongue kiss you when I'm drunk

allegedly then go to it go to the Hilton

get some blue balls take it to the