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microphone check one two what is this welcome to episode 321 of the Joe Budden

podcast I'm your humble gracious grateful and highly favored host Joe button here with a few of my nearest and

dearest friends mall is here Parkes is here Rory is here Ericsson is here savon is

here Alex dissatisfactory is here and REM is here hi guys hey hey you guys what's

going on how's everyone doing huh I

don't make that cow noise you're making

but I'll take it okay what's up with y'all children and how's the week been

well weekend 321 episodes and we never

quite find out how you guys weekend's really are you know we pod here we

weekend there sometimes I want to keep my weekend there by going away but I did I'd love to hear more about you guys his

weekend agendas I'm usually in the studio like what's the plan what's the vibe what did the vibrations heading

into the weekend you never change depends on what's have a weekend what the weather is where the flights are but

the baddest of everything in my life is what the status of everything in my life is he wants to talk tell me more about

race relations friendships relationships where my money's at at the time what my

family is in need of at the time it can change my perspective of a weekend that's true sometimes you don't even joy

Wow young-adult your response oh no no no I'm trying to get away from all of

those things so I could live [ __ ] on the weekend when do you guys when you guys

go into the weekend saying you know what this is gonna be a kinky weekend you know that before the weekend gets there

it's like you know that Thursday no doubt you might know that Monday I know that a month in advance it was your favorite favorite day to get kinky mmm

favorite day Sunday Sunday to myself I

like a Wednesday just so you can rest of the week without a lot of expectation like if you get a good Wednesday off

you're not really pressed for Friday and just let a happy note Friday's a good Kinki now I be tired on Friday but

that's why it's a good kinky day I can't get kinky I'm tired that's when you get your best cake in just move the

blindfolds you just go to sleep now best kink is when you sleepy mmm I saw

some money that's all just random persons retweet something that said it was a girl tweeting and she said you

know invited this dude over and he brought me some cook food and fell asleep I'm washed like that question

mark and I read that and thought no he feels comfortable around you yes put

hard work in the kitchen cooking you have provided a safe atmosphere for him to get the sleep that his life is

clearly lacking without you she was trying to get pounded to smithereens she was trying to get cracked let me know

talked about that enough but whatever we're not gonna start there and what a gentleman that that was exhausted and

said let me do one more good deed for her before I put myself in my well being

you know and we all that's cool but truth be told she could be trying to get penalty to smithereens that's the bottom

line that just continuously and I have attitude if you don't pound some of the Rings ya know it'll stop texting you [ __ ] is

she talking about and you start to realize that was my only purpose yeah and I didn't fulfill it and then double back two weeks later like something

about you got weird oh wait ha that's not how this happened

but I mean actually a nicer person yeah

that's not my standard Oh shout-out to our Spotify listenership shout-out to

our YouTube viewer ship shout-out to our first and last time listeners shout out to all the people listening that take

things personally um shout out to people they don't normally listen shut up to all you guys shunda everybody at work

and ever since my square space visit i have such a newfound respect for people at work listening i do i understand the

different ways that this helps people at work and i think because i haven't had enough works that sometimes i take for

granted the struggle that comes with work yeah like it's tough man yeah waking up every day and going somewhere

like every day I have to be here then I

have to work tightly with some people that just I don't really I mean I don't mesh with Darren but to wear a certain

kind of wardrobe to like yeah then the girl I like I can't [ __ ] throw throw

some sexual innuendo at her okay she's gonna tell on me in corporate America I

don't let the girl know that I like that I like her without and on top of that

you know how you just be around people for a really long time want some coffee and they might they might start looking

this a little better cuz you're around them all the time yeah yeah like maybe the jail theory but absurd mm-hmm not

gonna say your sexual preference here Oh but yeah the jail theory this is what I'm subjected to every single day I'm

gonna make the best of it that chicks starting to look pretty good on it what we're saying is why I have

never understood women with all OH my man's gonna cheat with somebody that don't look better than you there's mad

reasons for me to cheat with that girl I've been working here for 12 years I'm

gonna see some good qualities in her every single

she does she gets the job done no matter the task I like that that's attractive

to me dedicated attractive to media where do you guys find things what do you guys see things did you find

attractive come on wait I'm trying to get I'm trying to get you to admit that you find attractive qualities and other men I'm sorry cuz

you have to as a man don't I'm sorry see you have to as a man see looking for clarification you have to find attractive qualities and other men well

yeah yeah of course you do that's why you have friends all those people all

right with a little crazy football

qualities that you deem to be admirable I got it that's what I'm P yeah did you

[ __ ] with when you when you notice it in another same-sex person yeah I like I

like that my home shootout friends are like close friends are not afraid to

call me out on my [ __ ] true I love friends like that like no matter what like my not bug delve deeper into this

what some of your [ __ ] no just if I if I don't if I you know we supposed to go

somewhere are we supposed to do something in you'd be losing the packs no no and I just don't feel like going

[ __ ] I don't feel like how small is

this either page me guy call me call me

I'll come right through you could stand there guy or use a clientele guy which guy

well in a hypothetical world no he's the pawn can I hypothetical world no hole I'm not I'm not standing huh this that

reasonable doubt seven no no you got I don't have that reasonable volume last

week featuring bleak last when they have Gleek on it got a little Somali with the

extract to see in it alright gentleman what would you guys like to discuss this week very slow news week in my opinion

at all not too much to get you well where would you like to start well you were furious at the Oscars know

was it came in hot no I didn't came into stomping his feet like [ __ ] Oscar I'm not I'm one of the

creative DEP but and once I make my stance clear I assume it to be clear I can't keep coming in here saying [ __ ]

the Oscars in the Grammys cuz then I sound angry but that's my stance I'm not I'm not watching ratings are plummeting

every year like well let's what am i up Stan what am i what am I looking for I

was busy I'm busy 8:00 p.m. on a Sunday night that's see thank you to me that's

primetime yes that is either prime kinky hours or prime I want to be alone I'm

enjoying my alone time and stop texting me and calling me and ask me what are we yes okay what are we on Sunday night is

the when they do it hopefully on a date drink what are we but will a Valentine's

Day is coming in as man surprise text popping up uh people still do Valentine's Day I just proposed yeah

that's still on that [ __ ] no one has really understood the [ __ ] of that holiday I'm not gonna do Valentine's Day

and everything is gonna be okay in the crib y'all are buggin I just bought a ring I don't give a [ __ ] to this boy you gonna buy some just been

a year of me buying a ring you have more i watch your life as they happen i watch your life for 365 days you don't need

anything else girl your life is functioning that's

what helps a good week a good weekend of content if you don't buy out your fiancees anything you tell my partner

worry yeah well you too I don't wait the bottle only only receive got some gifts to get ya whatever club I'm in my [ __ ]

that to him that at for you can whatever club I am in you are in mr. clay me you

yes enough that I'm not allowing it no more that's good whatever club I'm in you in nah facts now you guys are the

same big facts big we can't be same

clothes well I have in the jinx I have advanced your spectrum yes that makes it

even like don't bring my past up you know what I'm saying at your past with

Valentine's Day any boat that you're in because none of my sons moms expect a

Valentine's Day gift from me so don't try to try to throw that know try not vote everyday work [ __ ] not expecting

they supposed to just be automatic you think that your baby fathers don't

expect flowers or something about something I wouldn't you are opening the door for much larger channel support

Congress telling you they don't I'll

call both of them they don't they would be shocked

ya know what set of rules are you're operating but tell me maybe rushing to

the flower Depot I don't know mother so listen I wish y'all would grow up and like live life I don't know [ __ ] about

[ __ ] well I know about Valentine's Day and I know it's a catch-22 because if I celebrate the day the only response I'm

gonna get is every day should be Valentine's Day so why can't we just go back to every day that I was doing before how would you know if every day

is Valentine's Day why am i changing my baby I get it I get it you're dealing with logic when it comes to women oh my bad see that while that's what y'all

[ __ ] up I'm wild these are two separate conversations by the way out if we're gonna continue to have it then we have to have it from Rory and parks and

the people know that I am committed relationships and with fiance's and girlfriends and women that run their

entire life no that's 10 points and me is you I'm just highlighting that they already lodged me and you right we've got you a

few of them out there man you provide that girlfriend

experience to tip a plethora you don't

you don't to be transparent today so what you doing Friday then no foolin

we got a pod yo sorry we got a pot on Friday I tried to tell somebody that I

have to work on nice not a good out I

tried to tell somebody hey state of the culture starting Friday late of the what followed by Statham once I hit the

followed by Friday I just thought I meant more to you I gave you that you

meant more to me and that's where the conversation has to eventually get to

even though I didn't want to start here if you are randomly hinting at the Valentine's Day gift you are supposed to

receive you're done - even it and if you are hitting anyone trying to make plans

for Valentine's Day that aren't quite set in stone all of those behaviors from

women are dismissive of man emotion and demands process to getting to commitment

hmm it's dismissive the crazy part about that is you could do everything in the

world the weekend before Valentine's Day doesn't count for a girl but if you don't do nothing like get engaged yeah

is not for us like you know show everybody that they have somebody that's

that cares that cares I think me and Rory should be getting Valentine's Day presents for imagine that but wait

that's how go aren't I don't know anything you're supposed to a card says

who listen once people drink I've ever gotten anything for Valentine's that I've never gotten once people opened the

curtains on me I opened them right back oh so you mean homophones gonna give - no that's how you do it that's how you

can bet that that debate no I just expect a gift you know if I'm

to deliver one and that's expected just absolutely not a conversation you're women have to stop having important

conversations via text what the [ __ ] is up that's the way to world communication

no it's not it is and then you say hey this isn't for the text and then they

come down there point yeah you're avoiding me and then they continue with their point dan and then god forbid you

try to add some tone and into your conversation I was trying to gauge my own opinion on you and now go by what

the internet said bro what's up client

the best weekend ever okay I had a great weekend mad mad peaceful man chill nice I watched every

movie that [ __ ] Hotel movies offer 21

bridges where's the net that was a good

one I was out of line 10 minutes ago I

thought I was Harriet but that didn't seem like it was in the foreplay bag No

might want to make make sure he revolt against things alright listen I didn't want to start with Valentine's Day well

it's for single people now remember all that the whole theory was it was the Hallmark card industry trying to get us

to buy and consume [ __ ] its flipped I've seen every single club promoter company

everything is now focusing on the single people to make them feel included so they've doubled down on the profits

of Valentine's Day let's take all these people that feel sad that they're alone and make them buy [ __ ] one February 14th

yes so it was a scam before I just watched them who killed Malcolm X doc so

bear with now this is [ __ ] crazy got some theories we got a school fee on the

day you see how they double down it was

people in relationships now we're gonna take the the bearing soul of people that are so sad to be alone on this day and

make them spend money include them fam the chicks that are hitting me not me

allegedly meatless hypothetic everything on this podcast is happy doctor good cover up does moon how do you allegedly

hitting my friends with hey w ID Friday

think about it why would you not be free

do do we have plans on Friday like wait we've only hit each other to [ __ ] yeah

yes wants to [ __ ] there's only mom's main name you know I like to play spades and monopoly my spare time we haven't

hung out we ever gonna do we ever go love got anyway we have this [ __ ] about what

are we doing Friday [ __ ] how about get to know me yeah let's do that on Friday I've never seen you in the sunlight

ever it's dismissive of men when I'm shutting up cuz I'm the wrong messenger

of the message yeah for some reason I feel you anyway come on what do y'all want to start man

I'm not even thinking about a Friday or the Oscars no nothing my doctor's either

but if you have some I mean all you missed was 1917 one everything no

parasite everything I had I haven't seen parasite everyone tells me it's amazing movie I do want to see it yeah boys he's

done some dope movies in the past oh homeboy well you know boy oh boy yeah

him the guy that directed it a lot of you know slob you got it you know flea

uh-huh save on everybody use of a [ __ ] about his bag on the mics to record it

Bon Iver poppin good I have to care

about oh we got another Eminem in Elton John picture never took a picture

together again I mean I know they performed to it every course every

performance to let us know they pieced it up but I did thoroughly enjoy that Eminem perform lose yourself because

it's like the number-one rap song that white people know everywhere - yeah it just went to the crowd paying the whole

time like look at them all Brad Pitt was rapidly long well good because it wasn't

he was short winded hey God somebody was rapping along where was Kirk when you

needed them oh yeah I would like a walk where the

guy who wrote this in that beat his arms up well farming on the call back there

sorry Steven Spielberg didn't jump in with that one mr. Mike may help them oh

no it's true word but yeah that happened at the Oscars what else happened at the Oscars

Billy Porter killed it whatever I know you guys are sick but I'm not Joaquin won and told us about the cows director

I like watching my guys how did you feel about uh him admitting he was the second

greatest Joker no honorable respected okay just honorable thing to do did he

say who was number one Heath Ledger duh did he say that specific person that we thought was

number one overall thank you thank you boki okay goodbye yo yo why you keep

saying Bo Kiko best spelling of Jack queen like John Cleese Phoenix whatever

bokkeum Phoenix what else happened at the Oscars they were supposed to care about Cynthia it was hot what did Billy

Eilish do she's incredible I loved her

yeah she killed her performance was great Cynthia's right she's doing a Rita yeah I'll read the

duck what bad baby do bad bunny here to

[ __ ] with these these three today that's the only reason I won I'm sorry oh yeah

here look here love won Best Animated Short looked at I think good Rory pandering I listen man try and tell you

what happened yo look at who said who

want pandering I didn't say they should own one I just

say yo they want alright come on one

here I think of all love should have won Best Actor oh yeah you got two Brad Brad

Pitt won another move you didn't like you don't like Brad I didn't like Oh once upon a time Hollywood I haven't

seen I'm with Joe it wasn't I like bread dough well what do you guys think of

Brad and Regina King I'm Joe brooms

yeah alright so I'll take my Kohl's word

that there's nothing else to discuss about the Oscars yeah I got a sea parasite that's all I took out of it well well well 21 bridges was great I

don't I don't know if they got nominated dude that plating black panther yeah

okay the do Chad is his name Oh Chad

you're not you're not is his friend call him chatty man chatty

CB is his name I see what today is gonna

be like the ratings plummeted worst-ever

per every award show every time we have an award show damn sure there was no host I think we're kind of draw I think

we're past the it's because everyone watches online no I just think y'all have a very pretentious show we're only

two movies win and your audience doesn't care give a deep dive Rory well when

you're ignoring all these [ __ ] superhero movies that are bringing in more money and viewers than any other

movie ever maybe you should include them in an award show if you want some [ __ ] ratings yes let's pursue they're

actually like getting better like and I don't even like that [ __ ] but that's a big audience that could be watching if

you guys took 10 minutes to acknowledge them not even 10 minutes and the Oscars is just a little awkward

like when you just his pretentiously watch it like watching Scorsese try to have to bop to Eminem

like maybe Eminem shouldn't be he had Action Bronson in his movie here what is

this like it's it yeah but it's still like a little it's just awkward this is very awkward though you have to pretend like everybody pretends like they know

what's going on and who's who and then they left how Luke Perry in the Memorial not really Luke Perry and somebody else

they left out that they shouldn't have left out mmm now I sound uninformed it was one of 21 year old Disney people oh

I was Cameron Boyce Cameron yes Cameron

they left him out - they always believed in someone element how do you do that well we don't leave them out but hey no

doubt but how do you leave out whatever whatever I don't give a [ __ ] about the

Oscars so yo y'all have done that I'm done who is Oscar it's a guy alright

I'm sure here's a white guy good to know brooms

you guys weren't invited to jay-z and Beyonce's all black Oscar Gallo

I'm white so count me out of this convoy

well that Sharon was there people where's the one just saying that you did

say that you're not the important white that's a thankfully that's effect that's definitely fan make the distinction that's very true they was confused fix

it up and was dancing to with it ninety

nine nine problems cover on it who's the guitar there no mystery an acoustic

everything all right so what's important outside of the Oscars boobs not brooms

people are so stupid put that out there Wow look at you guys [ __ ] on NASA

that says they should everyone will literally stand like that any day if you guys were science buffs like me

you'd really appreciate this mmm I think it was almost a conspiracy by the broom companies to sell more Bruno listen I

don't understand these makers I'm gonna

keep it real I don't know what these makers [ __ ] idiots what y'all doing

[ __ ] is doing everything with a broom except for sweeping yeah look what this

feminist movement has done yeah that

should be a mark publishing look what

they're doing [ __ ] focused on look what the group

can do [ __ ] I made a million dollars of your last record last month y'all would

have been blown away by turbo let me tell you guys get your turbo would have had your jaw on the ground Fred Astaire

mo did way more [ __ ] than this go take

some shrooms fine we'll take a broom standing up is cool but then you can't ever be the old guy that comes and shits

on whatever the yeah teacher told you

people were bored the very boy I would have a fit if I was future baby mom the

one who needs a DNA test [ __ ] is you talking you got time to stand up a bro

[Music] so let me say that 2020 has a really wild vibe so far to me it does I don't I

don't know if I'm alone in there explain it feels

2020 feels like spooky hours okay it

just feels like at the drop of a dime it feels like it's very different from what I envisioned 2020 to feel like

which was somehow Jetsons themed like ours yeah it's close no Elan musk went

from making the indestructible car to like yo my Nikes can light up have you ever seen these before like family how long long must keep

lying to us like he was said to bet that tunnel in LA was opening how long ago we never heard that he just came out came

out with a truck instead that was destructive in one stage of the

indestructible meeting Oh shattered yeah I'd be one to run around and unplug Tesla's I'm gonna dope thought don't

that actually sounds man charged new

slashing tires all right so let's see Tesla the Oscars brooms all of you guys

just deflecting from brother Nouri calling here and tearing you guys apart from whatever commentary you guys have

about the who killed Malcolm X doc that was recently released on Netflix I'm Chuck Mull take it away I I know we

eat mall to give us his thoughts on Dewayne Wade's family later [ __ ] we

don't wait wait I don't want me to give

my thoughts I want to have another episode I don't have no faith in me to hit hit

the open shot I can hit the over shot that's a wrong basket okay we don't need

they're from all about two ways my family values I can hit open shots five we got it uh who killed Malcolm X

recently released on Netflix was it Joe William yeah yeah it was William it was

William was that answer satisfactory I think so yeah were you asking to put me

in a dark spot no I would never who was it Rory I didn't catch it three

they told you it was I didn't see it no episode two the person a tattoo of him

yeah what do you think I did watch it

nation see what they did to their

second-in-command you think they're gonna do to me a shell comes joke like a

pig just a dick Ferrell that was a joke I'm joking someone come

on somebody give them some disturbing them this documentary was very disturbing I'll be honest like it was a

lot of things did more become our leadoff no it was they liked the fact

that they had a show later on that night in the ballroom like like a ballet or something like that a dancer something

was crazy the fact that he went all these years later back to the ballroom and the podiums downstairs in the

basement yes just like collecting dust was like a hot I feel crazy for not knowing that

that wasn't in like a museum or something like I feel crazy for that the Belize slash government clearly didn't

have any interest I was gonna say or in an evidence secured area right this was like what do you mean that [ __ ] was in

the basement of the the bone like I just didn't it's just crazy man that [ __ ] was like

very it was very disturbing to watch yeah but it was it was eye-opening it was um

homeboy was a lot a lot of questions were to mean spoiler alert by the way if you

haven't seen this and you want to watch it because it is a really good job you're really good done really really good fast forwarded some shoot because

we're talking about it now yeah yeah and very informative outside of the obvious

of what the name of the doc was say Wendy of the gentleman's name who was the main documentarian in this cuz yeah

yeah he did a great job he did a great job he was dedicated this whole [ __ ] life to this [ __ ]

said he was Kathy with cabin don't step

on my points cuz I'm making my point every time in this dog what he said you know what this big-ass dude with the

shotgun really killed Malcolm X and honestly I'm not willing to let it go I don't see how these [ __ ] in this same

neighborhood even let him live here and I want to press him about it now you don't know you know I'm the only one

throw that come on come on you guys I thought that y'all didn't think homeboy

was looking for William Bradley man [ __ ] found him cory booker knew we was

at his wife knew his [ __ ] secretary of defense knew he was in commercials

dapping people up you don't only one oh when I find them when you find them what I don't want to take away from this

you've shown us footage am driving by

you driving by man parking spot

yeah hydrants it was an hour power he

would not pull over yeah that's it or was they work I don't want to take away from his research cuz

he did a lot wait very surprised yo man just found out William Bradley bad you

knew that three months ago when he was filming his boat we should call brother uh norm Hamid

Nancy wood yeah you can't I don't see where

anything that they showed contradicts anything he said though that's my issue

semantics that's my thing large momma never said verbally said to kill but and

he did say don't lay a hand on Malcolm the same way that brother nor he said no

what you didn't brother nor he also said that you know y'all are believing in

some false institutions that have never never come forward and been transparent

with their part and by the end of the dock I'll be honest with me only me I was confused because homeboy could have

100% been a cop and taken cover with the FOI I I didn't see anything that could

readily refute that from me so bro everything brother knew he said

which was it was them and Minister Farrakhan never said go get him you

still can't prove against that yeah I mean you can speak to the same thing

that Mall said before we got a brother knowing the phone yo the FOI expressed their disappointment and and

administered some words that could have led somebody else to do something yes am

i off doo doo definitely could have been working with the cops before Annie was clearly afterwards so I can see that but

to put together that type of team of just one do they may be working with the cops I just think it's a collaborative

effort at that point who was working with the cops uh one of one of the

people that was part of the assassination team cooperated with the police afterwards Oh he got caught yeah yeah but there was

some which I read in more while I was watching it I was googling whole time that he may have been working with the police prior to mm-hmm but to put

together an assassination team of that capacity I think yeah it takes not just the cops to do that right well it was

definitely I think a lot of hands in and a lot of hands that are dirty from this it wasn't just like one particular

entity or person agree but and a lot of people that look the other way yeah but the actual fire and the guns

and shooting came from Muslims from a mosque in Newark so that's the bottom

line not sandy acted alone and it was just some random thing the data sides are doing their own no I don't think it was that it was I think was much deeper

than that but the bottom line is they pulled the trigger this was my first time watching it from from the viewpoint

of all the money that Malcolm was ruining for other people I don't know if

I've ever let that play a part in my theorizing they spoke about a lot I didn't know anything about that nor did

I know just how much money the Nation of Islam the nation was out there generating yet and you know we forget

because we have to abide by tax laws that you know I forgot that you know as a religious entity they didn't have to

abide by that that's a lot of [ __ ] money yeah and I'm not implying anything brother nori I'm just telling you the

things I learned as I was watching do you think that the nation was getting ahead of this possibly yeah they spoke

to us yeah if they spoke to The Breakfast Club yeah yeah III think that they knew that this dock was coming and

that they knew questions were gonna be asked so I think that a brother knew Muhammad I mean everyone for the most

part everyone involved with this dock is a part or was a part so there's no way that wasn't being talked about amongst

them I'll be honest two men you know I say this with you know with all with

knowledge that this may receive backlash but and I need to see some some deeper docs about Martin man

no I already said I want to see deeper docks about all of our heroes that were assassinated or you know because now

after watching this I'm just like wait what like this wasn't even investigated

thoroughly like there was a dance later on that night in the ballroom the podium is still did a bullets was still in a

wall but they painted the picture as to why this would not be investigated thoroughly too many too many parties

looked to gain from Malcolm's death yeah so it wouldn't be investigated

thoroughly I wouldn't think that I was shocked to find out that they were nine people present that were working with

law enforcement at the time mm-hmm that was shocking to me it was shocking to me

that so many people in the Newark area seemed to know what had happened like and all facts

it was pretty eerie the video of william the video that showed William Bradley

casually walking out looking like he just finished shooting somebody like you

know that walk like that was a little eerie Oh jaywalking and it was eerie to

me that this could be such a world-renowned case and I know so little

about the intricacies of it that's what I that's what I was like I felt really

bad for the gentlemen that were falsely accused oh for sure that was crazy yeah

and I do think that they are old some type of retribution I do definitely yeah or well then family cuz one did pass in

prison yeah so their families for sure I don't

know how they get that retribution well he'd said did you watch last one he was talking about how he was trying to you

know appeal to whatever yeah he said you could do what you want I don't trust

nothing that they do or say oh yeah the process area the documentarian say you up door Rahman Muhammad was his name but

you know and and now right now reports have come out that they are looking to

reopen the investigation but it's like most of the parties have moved on or

deceased deceased transition the hero's send-off for William Bradley

I was kind of I was feeling like the dockyard the documentarian yes I felt

like him too yeah I did so it was a little like y'all are saluting him and y'all knew but what

do you say to you know they address that at the end like what do you say when if somebody committed X amount of Acts

prior to committing their life and now they have turned their life over then

how do we it's a complicated thing how do anything and I felt them in that

how do you do it yeah I don't know you kill a figure like Malcolm X I'm sorry

I understand people do things and they change their lives but it's still like you can't get a hero's send-off

like if you kill one of our most prominent figures of our time like in history I can't I can't give you a

21-gun salute when you pass like that's his meat oh you know I can't now saying

that people can't change their lives and you can't turn your life run to other things I understand that part I salute I salute that but if it's coming from

somebody who did something like this to this magnitude the only yellow party

privately came to terms with that and apologized for that of course publicly I'm not going to expect him to do that

honestly from where he comes from I'm not gonna think he's gonna come out be like oh I did this I apologize arrest me

I need to be responsible and I need to see consequences for it but I don't know if he did that privately within his community and that's why people were so

reluctant to speak about it and you could tell that they knew but it was like now I don't really know so maybe he did and maybe that's why the send-off

was that but this is just me spitballing here yeah I could see there being some reconciliation in that if he's owned

that within that community and they were like all right well if you're changing a life and you now take responsibility for

that there can be some reconciliation there you know let me not act so out of touch I understand how William Bradley

can be viewed as an urban legend yeah yeah I do get that for killing Malcolm X

if he was if his whispers in the community oh that's the man that killed my of course like a lot of people felt like that was the

right thing attached to one of the biggest moments in history especially if if he's a known figure in the community

that is helping the community help you know yeah knowing philanthropy it's work mm-hmm

like I could see it but it's supported it happen the part I'm not to cut you off more the part that uh that I would

have liked to hear more about was when Malcolm when they when they spoke about

Malcolm being X out mm-hmm they said that his funds were cut yeah

an infant from that point on they went on to speak about his different meetings

around the world with world leaders and he was and I was confused because I was

like wait a second he's building he's getting close to his goal he's mean what do we wants to meet what he's traveling

he's holding himself down but he'll if he's broken exhale from everything I

would have loved to hear more about that yeah me too but I'm sure you know maybe some people over there that he was

meeting were you know they did mention that he didn't particularly care about

money when he was in the nation any money he got he typically just gave right back like that was never really

Malcolm's goal yeah at all so yeah I thought that too Park said maybe whoever he was meeting with was

really interested in meeting and was like I will fund what I can here I didn't really like hearing about the

beef between Elijah Muhammad's children and Malcolm yeah like once they

introduced that part into the doc I was like ah okay see how this maybe is gonna go I mean I

can just seem to be filled with a lot of envy and spite ulterior man yeah

Theriault motives different agendas uh didn't just didn't feel like everybody

was on the same page and it seemed like Malcolm just didn't give a [ __ ] yeah

well I think there's a difference when you seek something rather than being born into something I just think your

appreciation and and goals and views are a bit different so I can see those those

two groups beefing a bit how did y'all feel the docks portrayal of Malcolm wanting

to be then at the number one spot Malcolm wanted to be yeah I think he was

a appointed because at one point like he said Elijah Muhammad even said like this he's like this is the this is the guy my

successor yeah so it was like he was he was given that position um I understand

that and with that given position at least by what is portrayed he went on

his own admission hmm a few times which to us would be contradictory of your

teachings and how you were brought up well I mean sometimes you as a man you

just you seek your own information and you seek your own knowledge and you start to discover things and you're like

but wait this is total opposite of everything we've been taught like I think his when you know his pilgrimage

to Mecca is what changed him forever once he saw Asian Muslims in white

Muslims and he was like wait a minute like this is this is not just you know so you don't think he was changed before

then I think he I think he was but I think that was that was the the moment when he felt like I'm not sure if what I

was if I was taught or if I was programmed seeing that's why I wanted to hear more about Martin Martin's story

because what was that I have a dream [ __ ] about over there like a Hindu in

watching Martin I unders I mean that morning and watching Malcolm I

understand every step of the way hmm and if I put myself there which is just

instinctual that's probably how I would feel back then I would feel like not any

time to I have a dream and March down nine it's time to hit somebody I would

like to see more about I would like to

see what they did for us with Malcolm what they did with Martin how he got this Legion of people to believe in this

peaceful way of doing things versus

homeboy over here in Harlem that's like yo nah like that [ __ ] was galvanizing

someone yeah well it was really really interesting I could see how they might have been at odds as though I was just

like more information it was so different two different uh two different

routes but I think Martin and Malcolm ultimately had the same destination of

just uplifting the people that Malcolm [ __ ] is making me mad when I loved I was

ready to go in a crib strapped he's ready good why we acknowledged in our

last names why are we doing that I'm Jo X [ __ ] the [ __ ] see and that's

why we can't get no waves of people because I'm telling you I'm Jo X and I want me to be referred to as my slave name okay my bad

I never thought about why somebody's black people in a mcdougal as a black

man you want to run around and acknowledge your last name is mcdougal so the more I sat on that I started to

get some heat would button up man well I

mean Joseph does come from the white Bible listen man yeah I had a lot I had

a range of emotions well while watching the doughnut yeah you have you have to yeah and like I said the fact that the

[ __ ] the the pedestal is still in the basement podium yeah [ __ ] was like yes

nuts that was that was like that woman the police had no intention of finding out know the truth whatsoever the

documentarian had no [ __ ] I wanted him to go to William Bradley's house

what do you by the ass William Bradley alias c7 207 look like grandpa Zion and

you tell me yeah I got questions well no you don't show this here

no puns no part to whatever William Bramley got yeah yeah now I did that the

shotgun what's up yeah no way over yeah I gotta give it up to a man he was

talking to people that definitely did not want to talk to him and we're saying now we're not gonna talk about that and you still sat there and asked questions

got all of the people who knew he was loved line a quest like he had no clue

is that really huh no I did not that was the other thing

cory booker would be mines well said now we today that's my guy

that's my muscle yeah oh no idea uh all

right so have we have we've gotten rid all uh all the analysis on this i think so let's throw the race relations what

do you think it's a great duck it was highly recommended no right you guys i

dunno why mole will not tell us about his weekend though why because basically

saying women that he doesn't want other woman's well besides that besides that

mall i had to give drake a pass to go into Marcy and I could imagine that would take up some of your weekend yeah

much but you know the guy that's from this your you saw the passes yeah there's leftover past yeah you got a few

Brooklyn passes okay you had bills this

was interesting I don't I still don't know what this is for streets habit that Drake who's looking over at you know that was nowhere named

was probably Rory happen already and you tell me when I didn't say that the streets did you know I haven't been

we're just reporting what the street say I was there they were saying that's what he was looking back at to make sure he

was go you was going he was behind him with the thumbs up like you good broke it's all good [ __ ] walking out of line

don't worry using the middle of the projects like the aircraft guy with the shit's like good they say use security for chubs and

Tata chubs and Tata no I'm not security

for shout outs to children Tata doe but no I'm not security you now rock nation brought security no it would be a do you

have a rockefeller chain no oh why am i why do I bring all this Rockefeller

praise to you you know I would say exactly I wish you would stop we don't need to address that well should I

change the mall and never change I'm not artists there was mad you are there's some emotion behind that one no

it's a feeling there you're expressing yourself twice a week yeah that's how you justify to yourself and I'm not ours

you're not ok with that about what did you don't have a Rockefeller chain I'm more than okay

with it I'm not ok with it and I'm not related to them oh thank you all don't worry chase me really yes big sean has a

chaining you don't uh he's an artist fabulous yo Gotti's an artist also know

y'all a name and rappers you are you're an artist or creator yo Gotti's a

trapper trapping is not an art created

some [ __ ] that's right ah trapping you yeah you gotta look out for the craters man all the wall no have a Rockefeller

chain or a rock nation brunch invite or a paper planes hats I had a [ __ ] nation and more airplane it

no he does not have me yeah you got a wheel one of your paper plane ants man why hasn't so I can noted you official

know that does how else would I know that does not you know you Cisco can we

you mean everyone in the city with a rogue nation had own is not a and alright nation not at all mall is the

streets and are you one of those

you see y'all got this artist no you don't come the streets and mist lady I

got the shot it was funny that was good

shot all right what do you what do y'all want to talk about next man what else is in port oh we told my Drake come on did

somebody have some deep dive on why Drake is looking over his shoulder 90 million times and Marcy projects I would

look over much he says what he said yo plain clothes was there mmm

narcos the Undercovers was right there you know what was going on he had to

look and make sure my peeps was good Nan's was good foreign ser that like

that's the federales he's an amazing an American I don't know if you're joking

or serious I'm shedding up until some serious dialogue is happy I don't want

anyone to think that I'm joking on Drake for looking over his shoulder and Marcy projects shooting a music video Homeland

Security looking for the song could be called looking over your shoulder that could be it - y'all do know that Drake

had a lot of security of course I do more I was not one Drake was there with Trump what are y'all talking about what

do y'all think you was looking over his shoulder about pretty much this is funny well and they just make [ __ ] funny

of course mr. seventeen we did drag we - Drake vengers - though true what do you

mean Hjelm well we say drink we defend everything Drake does that's not true we'll defendant throw light-hearted jabs

according to them what we do is him no we had one moment of [ __ ] beef

with Drake and then I walked views my views take back and then that was it there was about a minute eight so your

mahomes know your mom's of the Drake vengers okay okay I'll take it

follow our Rory vice president of the Drake vengers okay that was a easy

Travis Kelce redhead joke that you missed so happy for him and his queen

stole from you the way six years the way

she show support boy don't get the [ __ ] out of here with

this [ __ ] alright great but I'm glad where I said that brings me to a question I meant to ask y'all couple of weeks ago that in NASCAR okay preferably

mall though cuz mall was too cool for anything alright mall I think I got you okay you

ready mmm-hmm you got a man's like a guy friend that

you care about mmm-hmm that's what I mean by man's well you got a man's he has a young harlot

hmm that he's not really interested in he has a young harlot that he's not

interested in but he doesn't let her know that that's the game he lets you

know that he's not and he's not really interested in the young harlot mm-hmm he

lets you know he's moving casually with her mm-hmm you like her you like the

girl okay what do you do that's it

that's the club like that was a big lead up yeah hey do you know I hate what do

you mean what do you do you never liked the girl that your man's is seeing

casually mm-hmm you and her he's [ __ ] what he was on developing a kinship with

him one another mm-hmm what do you do now you're me but

my homeboys working with hands is [ __ ] her but it's unaware of your

kinship with her mm-hmm what's next

oh no they already [ __ ] with each other then I'm not I'm not making a move

yeah one day I will conduct the expose mall podcast expose me oh well I'm all

do you mean shut the [ __ ] what would you do what would he - he look

he's going oh my man this is why men is

so confusing what do you mean what I would do is she's not yours what do it matter what I would do right that's the

bro code well that's what I just that's what I just use match yours and you don't give a [ __ ] about it's not your

girl and you're not have you don't have higher aspirations with her then what do it matter what I do if I want to beat

then what what do they have to do with him tell me but what's this is where this is where bro code contradicts bro

code to me don't country explain it to me because if you beat up you really

like the girl just because I wouldn't do it I'm not mad that you did it I just

wouldn't do it that's what I just said I'm these podcasts are liars Joey that's what it's not operate like

you I never I never I never I never introduced my operating techno but you

said I never said that this is how I operate I'm saying I think the men on the Joe

Budden Park NY our complete liars why okay knock it all cuz y'all never

acknowledge what miss was [ __ ] with a girl I'm not gonna try to [ __ ] with her yes you are forget it

time passes you've got that alright check it out Dewayne Wade and his wife it's not what he just asked yeah that's

a completely to play not [ __ ] with each other then yeah that's fair game he's saying while they're [ __ ] with each other no no no y know each other

marry two words it doesn't have to be Wow your man is [ __ ] with but your

man [ __ ] with it was a casual thing and you have consist you're just says

the whole thing yeah you just say cuz usually you guys just say

[ __ ] with a shake did you say ma I want to fight you

usually if you smash something that your homie was smashing the initial they were

special help me usually the spark is

fired while they are still [ __ ] and then notice not gotta fire we're talking

about you see the knot from my that's

not true that's wrong more that's your match no it's not so it's either you

special you might be introduced to me

explain it to me where you coming from on this no no all right I'm listening

I'm listening you like no I don't even know that I like her but me and her are

cold you know what I'm saying Brendan doesn't know that I'm getting to know we're on the side all that that's

great your man's is [ __ ] a chick we

got that that's somehow in hanging or you knew before however that comes about

you have your own relationship with shorty do up do you follow me so far

yeah that relationship builds into you you having curiosity about where you and

her may lead wow she has something existing with your man that's my

scenario I have never been in that position okay there we go that's that's except you know what has never been

dating or [ __ ] with somebody you got Jesse's girl there and me her [ __ ] talking and then I'm developing

feelings for a girl my Manas that's never happened Moore is a liar how am i lying

I can prove you're lying but I protect you prove it no I want to protect you don't protect me prove it prove that one

of my man's as [ __ ] was [ __ ] with a girl and me and her develop feelings and I like her while she's [ __ ] my

men and I'm trying to [ __ ] you gonna semantics me to death let me reply

because let me reply Rory I'm not here to just yell and call you guys names today let me reply look who's changed

because maybe they didn't gradually develop feelings at the same time and

come to a decision Oh Moll and the girl maybe that didn't

happen keep changing maybe maybe in scenarios might never mind every one of

my scenarios i some games and you and shorty do up having an alternate plan

that maybe didn't exist upon introduction that is where all of my scenarios la bella ping wow he's [ __ ]

with her and we're getting to know each other let me help translate we're

talking about the broad he's talking about the broad spectrum of Smashing something that your homie once mashed

intricate we're trying to make it what happens mashing you introduced here we

go I just said it what happens when you like the girl that your man is casually

smashing and calling you about one the sneak tip there we go give it to me more what do you mean what happened all right

never mind what's this hey listen the way a wave recently was

on The Ellen Show you just be saying [ __ ] you know what do you have mean what happens well I don't even understand

what you're asking I'm asking what happens in the event that that scenario comes up is your reply to that that that

scenario has never come up I have never [ __ ] with a girl that my homeboy or

whoever was chiasma in truth or truth games with mall mm-hmm with someone that we both know has

questioned him about his initiatives with someone that they've already I've

been in that game so for you to tell me that that has never took place it's a lie that I that I was dead I was

smashing oh yes man I have been smash anyway I think that's where you can confuse you don't have to be smashing

anyone for this scenario that I'm talking about to come into play anyone

now I'm really lost am i fly with with the you're [ __ ] a girl get my make smashing em where's no

no I would no you [ __ ] girl you you I'm some you have a casual intimate

relationship with someone got you and someone else that is your man seems to

want the very same thing how more playing can I explain it

you're acting like it was one of those scenario Lola is this little spit on scenario who ain't like it's just me

speaking from a bubble somewhere or is this a common because I thought it was

common maybe swap let's switch the scenario let's say you are the dude casually smashing a chick and your

homeboy has interests in her how do you how do you deal how do you go from there how do you deal with that maybe that

will there we go yeah and your homeboy likes her oh you've seen some yeah you

see a little spark fly yeah thank you yeah me and her just casually smashing

yeah have you ever been in that snow yeah yeah so you have been in that

scenario I think every man has we were no argument that scenario didn't exist we were arguing how we would behave in it

we never said what you said was some weird whatever I was always asking Paul

and I said no we would not smash the girl that our homeboy is casually [ __ ] while they're [ __ ] like no

I'm not I'm not what you wait a little while that's been great but no you guys

are very context was very different yeah

let's talk about just some random dude that I'm talking about whether parks and Jeff Goldblum share partners is

different than my actual that I consider

my brother's right for sure absolutely model you know Disney was like nozzoli

okay this your boy to let your these

weeks I'm gonna get y'all superb hanged

out with this [ __ ] girl did y'all handle everything like an alliance

I'm always on the other side I always handle it the weirder way all right that's all for Joe's questions for now

no I've never been on that side if I was smashing in my homeboy yeah absolutely that's happened you've never been the

homeboy I've even had of nine fire about the other no oh yeah maybe that do you know do you know right after

no no but you've you've like some other guys come on that's all you make boys nothing with me nothing with me come on

man go ahead that's your time now with her yes that's the Joe that does it

that's how I know there's a lot of times when men front like yo you know you can have that relationship I know that habit

me there's times where dudes are just like no you can have that I really don't care I don't know why that seems so

far-fetched for y'all that's like that's it no matter of real [ __ ] more know it needs by being a real neat

like you've never been in that scenario

all right do we have to be definitely

like the chick your man was smashing for a week that's so normal it's been only

when I talk to y'all she's cute he

caught her fur no but you changed it no because you know she got the same prize

I get at her that's what you say now if you see if signature means [ __ ] you like

damn she nice of course that happens yeah but in my light yo yo take my number no that would be sleazy yeah

that's well that's why I think he was trying to ask is how you how you that's what he just sparks save on Joe all of

you are insane you keep changing the word man over the weekend Dwyane Wade

said with Ellen and spoke about his family values and we have mall to break

it all down for you guys I didn't hear any of this I didn't all right man

over the weekend I video that Gabrielle Union posted of their child lettuce soup

and Dwyane Wade on it y'all stole the chick for the body from us what you get

look at Karma look at Karma that's your

bag that's why you don't understand how other dudes don't do it because that's normal to you boy

of course you are irresponsible using your platform that is not normal for me and it's never happened for me now what

what's never has never happened with you so why would you find out all my [ __ ] on my own merit off my own accord not

because I met them through my man who thought it was cute no that's never happened for me

personally no yes but you can't say that

that's not your bet is your bag that's not my bet Oh prove it we hype how would you like

me to prove that however you see fit to prove it dog you've done that plenty of

times dog I have it dog I have not wait so you say you say you try to baby you don't

want to go ice on the island with me why not my bag is waiting in the gym all

cleared up more and more you can't [ __ ] with my hair

[ __ ] with me my hands into the pool I will kill you and around the world knockout whatever game you

do you want it I got the ball you got the ball you take anyone okay so you tell him you telling me you've never

[ __ ] with a girl that your man was [ __ ] with 24-second shot clock Bobby

you didn't start counting okay how is that a 24-second violation if you have

not started counting are you counting yeah Matt 20 you could say yes so what's

the safe space one time one time I did

fall victim I was so beside myself we

were in it see but that's my issue with Marlin Rory Joe has zero problem being

transparent on this box I'm not I thought I've proven that time and time again on one dark night like the [ __ ]

are you talking about on one dark night in Sumter South Carolina Michael Paul

bagged the thick Columbia South Carolina girl and it was a girl that I would have

bagged had I seen her first but I didn't see her first Michael Paul like she

would have [ __ ] me anyways go Michael Paul bagged her you know what am I the

only one that's sharing in this moment no you saying that you've never done it

before I'm asking him I know only one sharing in this moment turn it up please

does anybody else come here or is it only me do you follow me if you continue to play mileage on everybody all right

Michael porno what is a gel is nothing but transparent listen

so Michael Paul bagged the girl because I didn't see her he saw her first hmm after she had already communicated

with him she let me know that it would still be a go if I wanted

so alright so you have not finished my story okay so her and Michael Paul had whatever

communications to see if they would meet up it fell through it didn't end this is all on the same evening

ya know I'm act fast yeah yeah it fell through for whatever the reason be I

don't know I didn't ask those things she then hit me to say hey w ID and I WI did

nothing I wasn't doing anything hmm so then I was intimate with her and never told Michael Paul why that is not

true talking to me nothing that true talking to me or wrong oh you know you know I am your gym eating all right so

you know you don't hear me wrong no you're talking to me Mom okay pull this woman just called if you want to have

these conversations we gonna be real had these conversations he no okay no he knows now he knows now but in the time

being you didn't tell him cuz you knew what she was doing was [ __ ] up I didn't tell him because it was juicy in

a moment because you knew what she was doing was [ __ ] up that's all no cuz he might have wanted to join and I wanted one-on-one action

balls up dirty wanted somehow it online

but I wanted the one-on-one which is why now I'm wanted the one-on-one with your alright with the cold which is why I

didn't call Michael Paul no what I'm saying is I wanted I wanna have sex alone with her okay

her later know if you want to double back down let's Columbia it's not why you that's not mine because

Charlemagne's cousin or something like that thing about Charlemagne you I just think why telling the joke uh my point

is she's gonna always be up three

because Joe is honest no you're not what the walls in that moment because you

knew that it was [ __ ] up and you felt like damn that's fine I was being lusty whatever you was being your desire

whatever you it was like damn this is [ __ ] up like you know that's not why I

didn't tell that is why you didn't tell I was just desiring so you're now gonna

respond don't ask for this 101 don't ask for this one-on-one why you're not gonna share nothing what do you mean you've

told us nothing you asked me have I haven't been an S - I told you no I've never been in that tight you mean you don't worry about it

do y'all believe more no thank you that's it DubLi more I have not a single

scenario that all the [ __ ] say wall that's not true can you give me the

exact scenario cuz I'm still [ __ ] lost cuz you I've been trying to about

that wasn't the question y'all keep changing the question homeboy was [ __ ] her no I've never done that

I've never I've never at the same time been [ __ ] a chick that my mans has been following you all are great friends

microphone you won't be honest so let's move on I won't be honest cuz I'm not I'm not agreeing with you that means I'm

not being honest like I'm being honest I don't know what else you want me to tell you ro well one of my friends was [ __ ] the chick I've never [ __ ] it have we

passed chicks or later [ __ ] chicks that our friends were [ __ ] when they was just casually [ __ ] me didn't care absolutely without question never denied

that tell me tell me what I'm [ __ ] tell me no tell me one of the times that

didn't bowled over well what do ya know sometimes men lie about how they feel

about a chick that's dead without question so where we not been honest are

you ready to discuss Dwayne Wade and his son who is transitioning hmm I really

really enjoyed the clip they posted today with his son that is transitioning

Zeya expound it's transitioning and it's

great and very level-headed kid very self-aware kid sounded like an adult

talking I thought that was pretty cool I was not that self-aware at that age at

all the child young teenager 1200

everything I'm not that self-aware at 30 so how old is how old is on his son he

said 12 I mean yeah it's it's tough I

mean at that age that's still like a little too young like for me to

understand but this is introducing something different that I don't think I've ever seen like I don't think we've

ever seen an athlete with a child is young going through this like this is something totally for me this is totally

different so y'all never [ __ ] a girl that your man his [ __ ] that your man is [ __ ] after he is [ __ ] yes there's not a

thing was it always more smooth I just

said that always was well times a man lies and says I didn't care about her then you [ __ ] me when I Ford so no girl

[ __ ] then you [ __ ] and he feels away I know but you're speaking about the relationship between the guy and the

girl and I'm more so asking about the relationship between you and your man that's exactly I'm speaking specifically

to our friendship forget the girl I my mans have said go ahead and beat it was great

you need that too all that little young [ __ ] that we used to do he didn't care then I did it and he felt

away yes that is definitely happened how did you deal with her family you said you ain't care about her clearly you do

he got laughed away she said you said you didn't care this was a younger time Oh men are toxic no we're horrible so

you have to but yes I laugh cause he

said he wouldn't be mad I laughed him yeah only because he said he wouldn't be mad but having the conversation is where

it's like it covers you like you're telling my yo Mia shorty whatever whatever and now what he says from there

all right now you got to stand on that because you can say nacho don't hit that I'm glossing any story with whatever

whatever I tell you what made it worse when I went back and I should what no

you say damn so recently drink has formed drink in

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he's coming up they're gonna get the dollars like posts a bigger you make your name as a younger battler here

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that's all it puts the big battle so happened that frequently like you said they're gonna need to put it up

frequently so a lot of the higher up oh geez if you will about a rap good

majority battle each other what does any of what you're saying I have to do with the bad lers receiving more fear of a

deal in this deal that's what I'm asking well I'm not sure that the breakdown of what this deal will be and yeah and

that's where I can't comment on it yet we don't have enough information I don't

know what were they getting a fair deal before but I was I was going off with

their deals were already they weren't great but I'm speaking to they were just

getting upfront fees for the most part right yeah from my understanding they were good at chunk up nav they rap about it though the balls part and I don't

know what they're getting in this scenario I know that just from a business standpoint this seems like a

great idea for URL caffeine of course and drink and the end user I'm just I'm

certain that the red lines in this deal matched up and made a lot of sense for

those three it's too early for now question it's too early for me to know

how this affects the actual battlers and the people that will be amassing

audience on this very new network which is caffeine I don't disagree at all yeah

leading with love more on when I first saw this but yeah you could look at this as smack being a joint venture with a

major label at the end of the day but I don't know much about it that's why I

spoke rather so not in the caffeine caffeine wouldn't be looked at it like a major label there start up there they

recently started a few years ago yeah startups at this point start I understand what you're saying

startups are not the same that they used to piss out the same as them get a deal a startup with Drake it I'm just not

looking at it as this is a start-up and we're all gonna come up together and no there's they're not making this move

without some back and whatever your foot that's why I think the intricacies need

to be spoken about because for all the drakes popularity he's not bailing anybody yeah so not so

you ran your name out with the press release for this startup company I'm sure a bunch of people ran over to check

what the [ __ ] half fiend was about when that happened now to maintain viewership you have to come and talk to the

battlers I don't think that has anything to do with drink smack I mean what are

the bad lers asking for I don't know I don't know way this is a this is this is a one another reason why was hard to

kind of hate on jury because you have the biggest artists in the world reaching back and trying to pull this

culture I love the idea yeah I love the idea of this that's all I'm speaking to

until I can see what this actually means my years I highly doubt that's again why I was speaking to the I think the doper

part because it continues on battle rap it's gonna make the younger battle rappers more famous and more up to that

level rather than waiting waiting for a Mook in Lux part 4 if you like

incentivize the young and old mad lers alike all of the people that have the

ability to a mass audience and if you don't you just left with this announcement okay so let me consider a

can URL partner with new startup caffeine to deliver on release content let me continue my point back to paving

the road the people behind you benefit more we've watched smack and we've heard

MOOC on stage to complain about it we've heard why am i blanking on no one who uh

who you battle does you no quarter culture I'm not cool hallo hallo and and

their problems with this yeah if I'm a younger battler I'm sure I'm studying all of that and I'm not doing those

deals the same way I'm not taking 20k for a battle when I see the YouTube views you're getting I know you have this app now I see what

you're getting on that who is caffeine yeah I think this is great for the younger battlers you saw what happened

with smack not downing smack here but we were just trying to figure out what we were doing with that at the time now

it's time to put business together and say no I'm not taking your 20 grand I need a percentage

of whatever caffeine comes from my battle whatever app comes from my battle whatever YouTube views come from my

battle so yes I think this is an amazing thing for the new battlers if you you

need us now we have to fulfill this comp we have to fulfill this content you need us you can't just do the old [ __ ] all

the time you need us and here is what I'm offering I agree so I yeah I

disagree with you disagreeing what did I disagree with nevermind tell me that's

fine I didn't think I disagreed or anything I said I don't know enough to say anything

because I don't know what the battlers are asking for disagreeing anything I like the deal that they have and I'm

waiting to see more okay I'm excited to easily access battles in

a more conducive place than searching for it on YouTube or waiting on YouTube or finding clips on Twitter or wherever

I'm excited for it did you guys give you a breakdown and why Drake was looking

over his shoulder at in Marcy projects I think yes I'm gonna do with lyrics but it's been looking cool yeah I want to

know what record this is for no family I mean what if the song is called looking

over your shoulder or something the lyric is he's talking about looking over shoulder Rory saying it Drake has been in New York all week shooting visuals in

New York all week like what is this for is the project coming is there like what is this for it's gotta be problem he's

doing this is for music videos coming like a Lucy or full project no I think a

full project and this is all a guess cuz Drake doesn't talk to me about these things in the interview he said he had

an album come not that think in the betta interview yeah if we never heard from Drake we would assume him to have a

project coming in the first first or second quarter of 2020 yeah so a tweet from B dot when they were talking about

the song that Drake sent to beat out and Elliott that he was rapping rapping on I think beat out retweeted this and said

this was the song and I was like alright you can hear the muffle yeah cuz now will you shoot videos they

don't the videos out in like four days sometimes it you know I'm saying like

it's not like before you shoot a video and they don't drop for another two months this only there's no way you don't think

that you're gonna rap in front of Marcia's drink and that clips are not gonna come out that moment it's only

throws me off because with the two future leaks I thought we had enough to

assume that the next project we heard would be from Drake and future in tandem and seeing this makes me say okay maybe

not here's where I disagree off that future and Drake thing I thought that

too when they were doing all the pictures and videos together and all that [ __ ] but when he took future's

verse off and put his longer verse on and put the real one out I was like alright we're gearing up for a Drake out

cuz he wouldn't have he would have kept futures verse like it wouldn't have just been a Drake song with a future hook

when it was a future song with the Drake hook like they completely changed it I took that as alright this got leaked I

need this for my album let me make this a Drake song mm-hm it went from a future

featuring Drake song to a Drake featuring futures all in a matter of a week and the other so life is good was a

future song correct that's how it's building believe so that make sense as

to why it's not a future intrigue project yeah future took that one and then Drake said is other one I'm gonna

make this a me record a future do up to sure futures coming you saw I mean there

would I definitely has some news for us on the JLA the JLA album announcement

yeah I'm hearing that it's a well he said featuring J but there's more to

that does actually they have like a lot of Records to get an album so it's looking like it might be like a not a

watch to throw on type of thing I called it but Cano sorta on that in that vein I will be the first one to come in here

and kill Jay Electronica if that happens by the way okay I would like to hear

president ah me too more than I would like to hear I'm gonna purchase that project and I

think it will sound amazing and if that happens I will be the first person to come in here and kill Jay Electronica

here's where I understand Joe a partnership yeah that's that's where I

understand Joe like we've been waiting waiting I don't think it's only about the greatest rapper of all time

that's your debut yeah I don't think it even if it's amazing like and that's where I'll differentiate from Rory

because I will not make Jay elec culpable if that happens I don't know

that that is not a rock nation idea a whole idea because there's bigger

business at play I don't know but strictly from an artistry standpoint I

am going to kill Jay Electronica if he produces an album with more than four

jay-z features none cuz you don't want to rap anyway clearly then go away now

if you gonna do it I will listen to it I'm you're retired from rap if you had

the opportunity to do album with Jay you would probably I would love to hear Jay like and old but he's saying because

that is exactly haven't had we haven't had a beat the rest of us and I I spoke

to this last podcast or whatever that was so I don't really feel need to expand what I'll do it the rest of us have been left down here to be judged by

what we think a body of work sounds like we're judged by the resources we have in

going about completing a body of work we're judged by everything so for Jay

elect to come out and wrap one song and be pitted with the elite and then never

rap again and then come out with an album ten eleven years later with hold

what do you saw what he did so what do you say to me I don't like what do you want happen I don't blame you asking me

why I feel the way that I feel I wish I would kill that you just said it now get it I understand I definitely understand

but if it's only like if this and I told y'all last whenever that was that hole really really really really

loves jail like there's no nice to give this some credence that's just that's it for hands man's man's if there was

somebody that he were gonna do this for hmm J Alec is on that list but even so

and it just a jay-z I'm featuring hold man this is highway robbery so it's skews the grading system which

has already been skewed we've never got a clear version of how to grade anything true yeah and this would skew that

system for somebody who we've been looking to fairly assess for a while Joe's opinion only

yeah I'm just uh and yes I would purchase it yes I would enjoy it I would

love to hear it I think them two would cook yeah I still would love to hear Watch the Throne part two with with you

with yay and with the a and hold any

even if they decided to carry on that theme with hope and other people I just

wish it would be announced in that hey Jay elec is coming now Jay let's come with hope yeah but I but if I wouldn't

hate him or if they would have said watch the throne to with Jay instead like I would have hated that more but if

it's like 1819 tracks and tracks together like that's not that a little bit that would have been so concise that

would have been so clear that would have been yo we're taking this idea that you already knew and doing it with not Kanye

you already know why that [ __ ] no it's the way it is now with somebody else now we're immediately putting it in the

lineage of watch the throne and I don't want them to make album that's within that lineage that going to be its own

Jay Electronica and Jay Z are incapable of making a song that ain't gonna fall and yet watch the throne lineage that's

my opinion yeah what Sony about to me don't you

know different recent oh yeah Dutch

saying he's he's saying that whatever they will produce will be of the same caliber of Kanye they bout to go make a

club in album okay I'm about to go [ __ ] delve into

some topics that we haven't heard from yeh and hope is what I'm saying I wouldn't like what say that stay back

that's day bad a lot of his records played in the club but yeah but Jay elec is a different thinker like he's he's

he's paying attention in his bio boss [ __ ] that I don't think Kanye is necessarily watch the throne of course

it had a lot of content it was lyric lyrically based cuz it's Kanye jay-z but a lot of that was production the way

they kept switching there'd be six beats and one [ __ ] song like it was definitely a production production album

that we focused on the production a lot on that album it was but that's okay I

mean the difference is probably the production was one of the focal points but they're sure what I mean it's

holding Kanye but yeah well I think that was a big thing where I think I could

even say that would be one a and 1 B this one 1 is going to be the lyrical

content I think the productions gonna be amazing if we're judging by who Jay elect [ __ ] with and who hold [ __ ] with but I don't

think it's gonna be in the same ilk as watch the throne is like one of those

rappers that you can name where it's like if you fail it doesn't matter

no he just adds that now with everything everybody putting out so much music and

he just understands I'm not gonna put out anything and that makes him such a

see a [ __ ] artist that's [ __ ] it's not the what you just said is [ __ ] no it's not B

because like the artists like music is art right right I don't think that

Basquiat was just painting just to say that he made something he had to be inspired or he had to be moved by

something at some point if you're an artist what your understanding of things is has to meet with what things are

that's what I'm saying and what you're saying is yo J Alec just had this

understand that if you just release no that's not what I'm saying I'm saying Alec has been aborted he is sought after

because he has put out any know he sought after because he has been afforded the luxury to not

release music I'm okay with so we're saying the same I'm okay with I knock it

I'm not no because you're in that you're now in the 1% of the way that artists release music everyone's past different

though as long as you are in the 1% I'm very clear and what that's kind of

my point throwing that that's my knock when I'm talking about how to fairly assess Jay elect you are in the 1% of

the the ability to release music the way that you release it you are the only person married to an heiress of a

[ __ ] island somewhere whatever the [ __ ] is going on with him he has never just had to continuously produce maybe

when life didn't provide all the fruits for him to produce it the best means no and we just have been able to hold him

to where we hold him because of Exhibit C now these are not knocks against him but they're asterisks for me they are

cuz how we view Jay elec and how we view Lupe ain't the same no what different

battles they ain't had to fight against the same [ __ ] ain't had the same luxuries some things somebody had to both elite rhymers right

both could probably cook up something from nothing but one had to feel and you

hadn't you've had to judge him each step of the way while he attempted to even

when even with the failures and JJ Alec has not been afforded that a hundred songs rather two five or six and I'll be

quick with this that was kind of my point with the watched her throne thing cuz I can't compare these when you're dealing with two mega superstars where

production has to be a certain way of course it's home but we know hope is in a place we just want to make music he

wants to make so they're not chasing anything here or have to have this

standard they have to meet because Jay elec has that that thing they're like he's Jay elect is cool now home is home

and it's crazy that these are even on the same level as dopest I think Jay elect is I think you skipped a lot of

steps that you could do album with jay-z no no I understand what you did Exhibit C cool

I do think that great art comes out of place so it's not fair for that to be in a watch your own category I do think

great art comes out of situations where you're doing it because you're inspired to do it as opposed to doing it because you have to though so I agree with your

asterisk as someone who has been broken the music business for many many years I completely understand however I do think

that sometimes this ends up being great you see no I wish every artists head

that looks me too we always did but they don't and that's why a lot of credit to

artists that are under pressure and deliver and have longevity sure that's right that's why it's like we can't

compare rap to support so much and not talk about the pressure players right like it's unfair yeah you can't do that

these people have delivered year after year after year and have bodies and bodies of work and now get the same

respect that Jaya let gets I also do I get Joe's point we do it's it's it's not

fair but is Jay elec a different is he in that alien category that we talked about yeah but I can't put him without a

body of work that's his at least one what he won will see and I do also

appreciate artists that can you know people have had a very long career career for example that still delivered

quality content yeah because there's a lot of people that don't there's a lot of people that are still active in music because they're bored initiative and

they put out music that sucks I have this to be show if we go off everyone's first album you know many legends we

would have in that top five category that we would never even put in the top 50 like Fame longevity and pressure is

something that I attribute a lot to no good I don't think we're gonna have them in she I don't think would be that

different a lot I would have a lot time I'm not arguing in here I'm just saying

the people didn't made great like the great great great first albums where did they go

but a lot of their first albums because they were so great we don't even get to

the second or third and we only look at all of the artists who have bodied the first album I don't think

there's like 60 percent who bodied the first album and in faltered off I don't I don't believe it I think I'm like if

you bodied that first album the way that we talking about you went on yeah I do think a lot of first albums aren't

viewed the way they were when they first came out because of the second third and the trickle off or the jokes or the you

had to put yourself out there we got to know you like I think a lot of first albums are better than we remember they

were and they would have been remembered better had you just disappeared like you were gone and wouldn't be like [ __ ] I really like that out what happened a lot

of those I just don't think I think time ruins people's legacy sometimes any really ruins even their first album and

us remembering how important how we felt when we heard that first album I agree with that said maybe I can't think of

too many examples where someone had a very great classic album than just nothing but trash afterwards that's

pretty rare oh yeah it's rare yeah me neither like I really love Chris crosses first

album that second album ass I stand by

that we can't bring up Kris Kross had a great first out go from Jay Electronica

Kris Kross sure you're right because jlx shouldn't be in any crisscross conversation well he doesn't have an

album out yet so he has not been called upon to deliver in the same facet that

crisscross has and that is my entire point with Jay Electronica yeah but this criss cross came out do don't nail weird

[ __ ] so whatever it is sold and then we're called upon shortly after to deliver something in the same remnants

gel like have been afforded a decade to [ __ ] relax enjoys and because y'all

[ __ ] y'all just don't they are not as normal it's not normal it's not normal I'm sorry it's not normal that is not

doing as well because you can't name me another [ __ ] that's afforded that so when you say we can't talk about criss

cross and gently you right we can't one of them liver no no when I say that is you but

you being very surface though like we don't they crisscross right there music were they rapping at the same caliber no

like so you can't compare it you can't bring criss cross is what I'm saying you can find another artist but Crisco first

person that came to mind [ __ ] DLC formula I was gonna say let me put some of our greats that wasn't me amazing to

me and high at the time was young I didn't know nothing about what he had going on after that and I didn't hear nothing else after that to match that

for me but nobody except for the West Coast people was bringing up deals

seeing the same faster than electronica that's kind of up that's my point to you anybody I think of there's a bunch of

amount the MC MCM was first something that first I heard him yeah whatever album that was or to pray for me he had

two albums but we don't hold them in that light is all I'm saying we could think of a bunch of them who had great

first out oh yeah I'll even say [ __ ] the average rappers who backs the class if they was going

after they first one and didn't continue to put out 14 albums they would be looked at as the greatest rapper of all

time I promise you that I bring up that that point all the time and I would

never want this but if DMX died after those first two albums he would be number one on every single person's list yeah but he should but he's not he's not

number one on everyone's list now because his his career continued and we had to see him continue to produce so I

don't think it's fair when you just put one thing out and you just there I think that's a bad example he continued to

produce he did he did but the number one

slot there's a lot I think there's a lot of artists had they passed away or just disappeared not even that [ __ ] that just

stopped these are my two bodies of work this is my first body of work yeah you

and that answer that I Sayed likes it if nas without Illmatic and it was written

and discipline stops making music he's he's even where higher on the list an or worried give me somebody outside of the

people that we all know have legendary to album outputs like Geronimo great

first album agree never really put out one word my Geronimo was also looked at

as like nas no that was well no not

after all right forget uh what else we

got what else we got what else is important that was a nice little nerd breakdown of [ __ ] it was no no I'm saying put out a

great debut album was revered by people you know who like good rapping there's

great beats all that [ __ ] never put out much afterwards and we don't look at him in the way that you're saying that people that put out a great album then

disappear my response to that is I guess when we're having this conversation I'm

speaking about the people who had the talent to deliver an impeccable first album and then for some and then for

some reason the talent didn't seem to be able to deliver for the rest of their career mic Geronimo at that's not what I

was speaking to my Geronimo was viewed as this world-class emcee from Queens

little-known he went the [ __ ] up here knew what time it was and then he had label issues and then just didn't

deliver again we didn't say oh he fell off he can't deliver like no no no no I

was I was using him as an example just because where I said if some all these rappers only put out a debut album

everyone would be revered as the best rapper of all time and I was using great

example that had he just stopped after

one would be revered a lot different kind of dude stuff but he did for a while there's a huge hiatus before he

said talk about if you just cut off and yo I'm done and we're looking at shoes for Lucy's for the average man who art I

agree and I don't think we ever looked at him like an elite MC know is that

hard for example edgy dip yeah tell me like a bunch t-that's first I'll yep

I don't see she would be an example of Rory's uh oh yeah and my point my point

more oh yeah 104 consider an album and I

consider the Fugees catalog specifically the score I went to that unplug them I

don't love it like y'all dude that's fine like I know I was good I know I'm niche

in saying that it's the same guitar chord for every song the lyrical content

is really good lyrical content is really really performance voice isn't the greatest but I'm gonna be that corny

person and seeing Lauren in that space made it doper I don't count that because the score is Lauren Lauren's album yeah

that's like that was height she carried it coming out party okay so it's nasty

it is well that's why sometimes when you talk about albums mall like I have to

get into all right but were you there but did you experience this album like when did it come because when the score

came like in the score so what 10 million some crazy [ __ ] happens one you don't even know but stupid but when it

came out I remember the vibe if I was alright what is she doing she's bugging

me naturally you stand next to two guys and have this pretty girl standing in she's ramen like that like she was to

stand out but I'm just saying her official album came after that and then we didn't get another album no after

that go make out that might be the greatest example of this Jay Alexia well

no that's that's my that's my point of saying had they have been this tremendous artist that put out this one

classic and then disappeared on some artsy [ __ ] they're revered differently they are so I'm speaking I'm speaking to

the Jay elect point to what Mall just said that's my point that I'm making here maybe I'm not articulating correctly but yes if certain artists put

out one album or two albums and then left on this artsy [ __ ] or passed away they get this reverence of not a artsy I

just don't understand they're the greatest and I don't think it's fair no it's not it's not fair Desilu nobody

I'm overall what that's new it's what Lauren that was what 98 I don't think that was

being said with her back then I think well yes they gave it a few years I

think that's a new thing to say were you excusing someone foul artsy they were we

didn't do that with Lauren we didn't do it with 3k we didn't do it for the artsy it's of people back then until later

when when that became a thing oh he's artsy enough for us to excuse and I don't preserve I don't put three

stacks in that category because he gave us a strong strong body of work

throughout however many years listen whether you did it with big boy or not that's y'all argument but I'm not

putting in in that yo he gave us an album or a couple verses and I can't put him there here's a diss a graffiti it's

insane let's stay here on on artsy movement so now I ask you gentlemen what you feel about Ari Lennox taking her

social media uh hiatus I think it's great I think everyone needs a break

especially when you think specifically you're you're talking too much so yeah I

think it's great perspective I think I think a lot of people she tried it stepping away from social media for a

few days yeah think it can only help I don't see any negative in it and I think

it when you have that in your hand and so many things happen so and so many

parts of my dad suggested all of this five weeks ago and got attacked no it's

not way you got attack but that is why I got attacked because I said it's an re Linux she's get the [ __ ] off the internet for

me oh wow if things like this affect her it's not gonna bode well for her grand

scheme what she's trying to do that it's exactly what I said and I got attacked for for calling her out Joanna I don't

worry I don't think anyone would disagree with that point they were disagreeing to the context in which you

were saying she should stop talking an internet but that's not I don't think you with you everywhere you go that's a

fact if you are having a hard time with internet trolls my larger point was

you're gonna have a harder time with something that's of matter of importance to you and your team that's a fact

I that is what happened here she's worth too much money she stepped a little bit

outside of bounds for buy her team's call and they said all right enough I

mean the people that don't know how these things work may not know that they mainly just see her as all right I'm

she's taking a break but we do know somebody tapped her and said I enough

now as well but I know her yes and we'll

at that point and you're you can't really be responsible for how people interpret interpretate what you say so

maybe credit here matters none but a larger point let's yeah I know that's

what you meant from that but that's not how it was interpretated to go which is fine yeah well you're not responsible

for that I think this was a wise decision made I do too especially when you're looking at

your phone and so much things happen during the day that you can make an opinion on that you probably don't even

particularly care about and then you make an opinion without thinking through because you don't really care and you're

this big you're [ __ ] just put the phone down I think we'll

service can leave Twitter and social social social media has had us commenting on so many things that we

don't care about that we don't put any thought into what we're commenting on because we don't care hmm the bar and

we're [ __ ] afterwards like I have I'm it's in my hand I have to comment on this would I

comment on this do I give a [ __ ] about this no do I have a real intelligent thought no that's gonna come out of my

brain for something I don't care about ten minutes after my rant I found a way calmer way to say whatever it is that I

was trying to express without offending a soul just like that's how moods work yeah that's al rants work like it's okay

at school and even if you use the you know rush to get it out there and I'm

not I'm not condemning up Ari for know I'm told my so she's she's artsy but

that was much she's gonna feel away about [ __ ] she sees but it's a practice to not convey it all does it

that was my whole point about to snoop then I wasn't mad at him being upset about Gayle King asking that

question out I was bothered about it my thing was sometimes when we have these phones in our hands and we react so

quickly we go about it the wrong way mmm and that was my you know the only thing like of course I understand you being upset

and but I think if you would have just not had that phone in your hand it just

gave yourself some time to just think it would it could have been articulated yeah differently well I'll speak for me

not anyone else the three for you were the first thought that comes in my head is usually the wrong one all the time

articulated especially if I'm passionate about it yeah it may come out of emotion

and not intellect and those two things can mesh together but they need a moment

yeah cuz emotion is gonna is gonna it's gonna it's gonna blurt out whatever is

at the top of your head overshadows the the point that brace to say something we've talked about on this podcast many

times like sometimes all the information isn't there yet for you to erase to

react yeah and I still live by that 24 hour 48 hour rule of will it matter in

24 hours will it matter in 48 hours but we live in a time where the next topic happens in six hours so everyone is so

quick to I will let me get it in now what people are talking about this and it's not gonna be the most thought-out

thing in your brain at all especially if you're upset about it mm-hm it's almost like when you was in school

and you raised your hand before you your home boy the teacher went to [ __ ] the girl that you guys both like he's never

been thrust into that position it's rusted it's kind of like a list like you raise your hand first person that didn't

raise their hand it's like damn I'm now you mad could you raise your hand first it's not that seriously we understand

you might have had an answer to yes okay well do you have any thoughts on summer Walker saying that she's not releasing

any music after 2020 no he's not recording anything after 2020 that

doesn't mean she can't release music that she recorded you were saddened by this do react to it Oh

I think she someone's been hitting at not wanting to do anything music or entertainment related yeah but that

means no more secret summer instagrams for you at nighttime or way more time to

do those instead of making music your Polaroid true oh you had to collect the

whole page about the blow-up yeah well you got to record yeah scream Anne can you get the screen off of the shave room

teens page that's sick [ __ ] creepy [ __ ] are you into even know that weirdo

but I asked you guys this again because we've seen scissors say I'm not making music no more we've seen Ari say I

continue to say I do not believe them they're gonna continue to make music so I'm still standing that summer will make

music after 2020 probably so everybody wait who are is this oh well no this is

it definitely said it cuz we argued about it on the pot yeah but scissor didn't want to release her debut album

so I mean that's consistent with scissor oh do they [ __ ] your quit this [ __ ] I

hate it as any artist will she insecure process one of the best albums of the decade I re the other end no I don't

believe it if you tell me that I don't believe that you get to you get to participate in that decision I don't think I don't

think that was summer either I do not think that summer gets to participate in that decision sorry about her not making

me yep she gets to participate and heard

what decide what she wants to me she's always said contracts honoring contracts

and people forcing you some artists will have a contract that you owe is this amount of music at this amount of time

and the label will be like well I don't really care we're trying to drop you because you're costing us money more

than you're making it I mean we put artists like this yeah you're honoring that contrary core we're gonna run you dry you have no money here let me clear

up what I'm saying anymore if summer Walker really didn't want to make music anymore I do believe that she could make that decision herself and not have to

speak to anybody else about it I'm saying that I don't believe it from summer Walker because she's worth

entirely too much money and she values the opinions of the people that are gonna come talk to her and say fam nah

so I do not I don't think that that will be eventually come a reality for summer Walker I think

that that is just emotional venting at the time I mean just to set here and

told us like she does not she doesn't really care I did not believe one word that justice sat here and said about

anything what do you guys think about calling yet cuz he's financially

invested and and I think isn't in your line I think his business acumen is great that's why and I think if it's as

great as I think it is he should have came one here and lied about a bunch of [ __ ] as it pertained to us I'm a walker that's my opinion he should have came

away and lied 1000 and just lied about

lied about a bunch of [ __ ] and he would everything everything that Justin said on here to me it sounded like listen man

some ourselves out a lot of [ __ ] and we're gonna do what we have to do to make sure she continues to sell out a

lot of [ __ ] and in spite of what you and the fans say that's that's that's every

single thing he said in his pockets is how I heard it hurt him yeah I think that Israel I don't think that she

really you think she's not put anymore 2020 I mean unless she rewards for

albums and y'all got London [ __ ] up if

y'all think that London is a static is not letting summer Walker just talk to

him I'm on in private of her pay and recording music after 2020 she's gonna do both record in she just be feeling

away on the internet she's an artist yeah artists feel away and say things they don't mean all the dozen I'm ready

for [ __ ] summer mobile every every album is not gonna be mobile I just

wanna let you know that yeah yeah every child in that laughs at

some funny [ __ ] yeah let's open sea parties not inviting you to his house man laugh laugh as summer mobile I don't

particularly care for you you think that's like a come by you're

the only artist house I've ever been to I don't particularly care I lost my

phone over the weekend - that was scary Uber's fix their practices that [ __ ] back to you that's pretty cool who goes

there person that lives here let's see here

Oh Jesse Smule a indicted I never want

to hear anything else about what Jesse smiley and yes I'm aware that he was indicted by the special prosecutor of

Chicago yeah I don't care he will not get an ounce of my 20/20 no

no I'm sorry um Sirius XM invest 75 million in

SoundCloud oh yeah yeah Sirius XM 75

million in SoundCloud okay oh pretty things are happening really substantial

investment uh little change little change then how do we feel about that pretty cool like I'll steal your URL

answer I'd like to see the deal not gonna jump for joy yet okay I know

SoundCloud has been through some turmoil and I've seen this report with SoundCloud at least three times with

other people besides Sirius XM so we shall see I do love that SoundCloud is

still kicking though I really like it like SoundCloud love SoundCloud do you

guys care cloud owes is owed a lot of money from a lot of streaming services

rawrr you want to tell us about Janet Jackson going on tour her new album or whatever she's promoting out there now I

mean it's not much from what you just said but yeah she's back out an album is in the works I don't know if this means

her and JD are getting back to wait a minute I mean I would hope so my bad Rory damn and I'm sorry I'm a step

on your route to give Roots Picnic announcement with this Janet

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go ahead and give a little taste what you got coming back to back actually have you ever list it was picnic yes

boys never missed the picnic picnic a brunch anything with is like a sandwich

I'm in bed by 9:00 that's great all right what you dropping on him up there

in Philly I don't know how important we are but this lineup is amazing it does actually

tell us more Meek Mill summer Walker the roots with

special guest music soldier Randy crap I don't you guys are familiar with

the Black Thought live mixtape we're here as everyone else's [ __ ] which is a brand new mixtape it's the most insane

thing I've ever seen my life it doesn't deserve that

sir baby rosebud educe a Palooza questlove supreme podcast phony people

joke maybe you want to announce this one Michelle and egg yield cello now we'll

keep going reimagine sprints in this thing cuz I'm guessin I was gonna let Joe get that one off but you're gonna have a whole print set yes that's what

appears to be a hard work movement moved away DJ work horrible Oh friend joy

around the way curls pounce I'd pop Saturday now I'm in trouble alone round

the Waker oh give me a trouble fired work I'm sure they have some fire we'll

be at the curl fest next year too by the way [Music]

going on tour why'd she tell you she's going to Chicago I'm sorry we did not

save on doin our [ __ ] what you need to know you keep that over there alright I

like what use that there what her excuses to go to Chicago why did she

tell you she had to go to Chicago come on like LA for me she gave you some Network like yo SLA everything's out

there I got to take some meetings like who taking a meeting in Chicago this is

where Mall and I are supposed to take this pod to the next level it's true cuz it's only him and I that would have to

deal with why she's going to Chicago like y'all are chillin yeah of course

somebody hit mall like yo it's weekend they're doing the MJ memorial at the

front of the statue we don't run up the steps I'm related to Jordan sister they

called up yeah yeah what are you oh that why - Ellie in Chicago see the beam or

wait did she check which oh [ __ ] parks y'all we're gonna be sidebar man this don't have nothing to do with none now

try to tell this to you anonymously Duke Duke Duke Duke homeboy yeah hit homegirl

- same way homegirl he got hit what a nasty [ __ ] caricature of it so look

at friends [ __ ] each other know this that note is a rapper going around targeting all of our girls I mean Sam

did she speak to you did they speak to you no rapper going around tronic trying

to catch bodies yes sending the AI emojis to hell I was elated to the podcast Oh

requests yeah I mean I'm also wondering why you ain't hear about it every wish

you say I want to agree with parks but

that's like such a common thing for biggest losers I hate them yeah no but

what's it like what's the what's the end goal so I could hold it over the pond so

you could name the pod in a verse right just make it easy it's happening in 2020

so he could name it this is all [ __ ]

up idea got there only a loser loser put

me in an awkward spot she sends it to me now know what to say be the funny ones

too though like when your girls send you some [ __ ] and you just you don't even be mayor you be laughing at how he giving

it up like this was your strategy that's how you thought it was gonna work no that's important now because I know

in in old rapper days we was like nah if he beat your if they be beat he beat no

I'm never subscribing to that no more how you beat it's important no don't

drag me all in the mix and I was at the sandwich spot not thinking not about nothing that's nasty you nasty and you get

different points a flagrant foul man anyway it's important how they be um

that's what she good new [ __ ] I couldn't be I couldn't believe it but good I'm glad I'm not the

only one with no it is no it's cooler it

is this fun the games game ah let's see what else is happening can't tell you because my phone's freezing there's a

nipsey dock in the works that's important who's bothering you well here's what I was didn't really

understand when they they said they're in talks with Netflix now but they've picked a director and they picked

production but it looks like it's gonna land at Netflix from the last thing that they put out mm-hmm they're in our

negotiations with Netflix this is ava duvernay executive producing the nipsey

dock and all it's been reported is that they are negotiating with Netflix but they have been negotiating with Netflix

we reported that all months ago when we reported this story I am still really excited about the dog it seems like

they're gaining some headway and I can't wait to see it I love everything that Ava produces or is a part of and I'm

anxious me so hopefully Netflix welling them that hopefully I'm sure Netflix will pay what they're supposed to pay

him well I think I think that was a move when they put that out we can I don't

know if it was illegal which we to say we're in negotiations with Netflix to

put this out oh now you're putting Netflix in position if I'm Netflix yeah

I guess I got to take this now yeah yeah just please don't whoever just please

don't [ __ ] this up I don't think they'll [ __ ] it up I think they have too many people too close to nipsey to [ __ ] it up

I just hope they're properly paid in the release and the families properly paid I

saw that his kids are executive producers I think that's amazing so as long as the families properly paid I

have a lot of confidence that they'll don't make this a really good documentary are you guys are you guys

are just to keep it on TV are you guys caught up on the outsider absolutely yeah well watch that episode again

tonight the last one that [ __ ] was crazy I started it I got a kids at home

somebody mentioned to me you know see Sierra actually a woman named Sierra

mentioned to me that they would she wouldn't be surprised if the outsider was a one season only type but I think

it is oh my god I think it's a miniseries based off of Stephen King not

to say if they haven't so yeah they've done that a million times but no I'll be mad HBO has fired my syriza I will be

you they do yeah well and I've been it's a mini-city like the night of I was like Dan you could just do another case you

really couldn't do anything more with nothing I will be really angry if they do that with this outsider [ __ ] we at

Episode five or six and I don't want to give it away but that's fun ah not a

little slow to figuring out there's ghosts around goddamn like what the [ __ ] are you

nevermind don't worry about it I'll be disappointed if they don't come back with a second season all I know is

Stephen King is sick and I mean that in a good way like if you look at the

amount of Stephen King novels or Stephen King inspired series in the past however

many years like all of them he's put out more records than POC and Wayne combined

yeah how did you put out this plan this much [ __ ] we at this type of brain

capacity at this level and at this volume well nothing I think it's he's

sick yeah now the output is undeniable um have you guys watched to make

billions doc I haven't watched yet no is it I is it officially out that was a whole and asking about with the UM the

McDonald's thing yeah okay you know it's calming billions um this is from HBO as well and they're covering

McDonald's game Monopoly game scam scandals so I'm not that interested in

them is it good though so far so good okay well more you can you can speak to this this scam yeah you participated to some

degree in malls a winner right Elementary School we took a road trip

down to Baltimore I think and somehow the pot was the winning piece for you

that all the Monopoly board you know the little paper to fold up he had it in his book bag and we stopped at a McDonald's

and he got the four railroad oh [ __ ] you talked to him since no legend has it

that the block is still flooded to this day let you're gonna have you guys watch

the power not really a finale because there's five more powers coming I've seen it like three months ago

watch the episodes leak I watched it on my plex app was pretty man that [ __ ] was

terrible I enjoyed it the finale we're better

people that know it now that's true well now but we didn't we don't really busted my lip trying to yell oh I do want to

know how ghosts fell so easily off that railing that heartbreak that wasn't

broken like did his body go through that little side rail how did he cleanly fall

he did a backflip goes better than me out of total tommy kill that [ __ ] hey

so the internet is running around with this hole so nobody wants to say it but two-bit is the realest guy who power

might be man broken jail being rich and

being a rat are you gonna watch the pout the new power book I'm not watching those it's about a single phone I thought you

were gonna speak to the other theory once Kanan came back and stopped the text message I was done I was a fantasy

that [ __ ] was like I told you little Nikki I wasn't sure that was fifties

arrogance like I have to be in the finale let me tell you how I was his way for that to really be like it wasn't a

dream they all wavered to be like yeah that wasn't me - got killed by the cops you know I'm saying I was at that point I

was like anything is liable to happen now that [ __ ] was so corny man guys

didn't subscribe to the other timeline theory that Tasha is actually ghost no

subscribe wow these are like one seasons are they making five new series is office I can't answer you because I'm

mad watch i watch it but i do want to watch our fifties for life show on ABC

yeah me too that looks good that premiered last night over I haven't seen it so the

commercials for it during the Oscars so you have nothing to provide I like the trailer no now we'll check that out all

right so you at that check check this

out part of the pod yeah let's see the

stripper that fell and her GoFundMe do you guys care about that of course you don't mm I was more curious of your hypocrisy

in this you're gonna give her twenty five hundred on the pole you're not gonna give her 25 on it in the bit like she needs hope now I'm confused the way

Rory took this thing she really she did and she kept him moving so I was like ah she's a trooper but she know she's a

trooper so she apparently has a go fund me she apparently has raised over 20 grand on this go fund me and because she

has a broken jaw she had broken ribs that's crazy

that is a pretty handsome Julie hi yeah

and look like a lotta hire to 15 you know but if it was starlets six feet but

you know what man I saw this and I know there was a lot of internet jokes on a young lady but I couldn't stop thinking

about all weekend about how the these clubs just don't provide anything for

the workers insurance there's no liability at all on and them and that's disturbing when you see something like

this she did and I couldn't I couldn't leave that I was unable to leave that broke ribs and a broke

yes [ __ ] fire definitely fire couldn't

be the whole vengers without picking up home committing a getting NFL to commit 100 million to criminal justice reform

yeah hot takes on that I'm disappointed with Colin Kaepernick being a rumored to

have been asking for an exorbitant amount of money from the XFL why do you

want to play football or nom yeah but again how much you do you know how much

money Kaepernick would generate to the XFL of use the jerseys so not every game

or II know I was bigger than that job for him know they offer him no it's not

exactly what if they offered him a mil he supposed to take that I don't know all they said was that Colin Kaepernick

asked for an exorbitant amount of money it leaves open at a million to them it's

not a million might be I don't know that XFL salaries of like not a million it's not two million it's but it would be the

biggest stars exorbitant means they were talking as if he would he would have sunk the entire leagues plans of payment

I mean but he would be the biggest star in the league so he would deserve a big contract you'd be instant everything

that John was saying is correct all I'm saying is do you want to play football or not now we're not dealing with the

NFL we're not dealing with the NFL practices when they're dealing with the NFL's pre-arranged deals with other

vendors and licensors that's why your movement could be against we have a whole clean slate of nothing

over here but [ __ ] that just want to play football that's why if you want to do that we are prepared to make you the

highest paid person in that if you are asking for NFL prices from the XFL I'm

looking at you with that that don't mean you don't deserve it somewhere from somebody but but the person that the

person that you wanted from they're not offering and if this is about football like you have said for however long

you've said it then at some point I would assume you want to at least be seen playing football that's an

assumption okay but yeah but you're considering start up to start to sign of

consider them a start up what that's a bell yeah listen if you find a panic and

you had a hundred million dollar contract and nfo the XFL can only expect that you're gonna ask for it that is so

not true if I'm coming hey if you just came from a job where you made fifty

million dollars and now you're unemployed I'm judging you for going to your new employer telling him about what

you used to make no no you make zero now don't do that job that's not no no you can you can you mail your odo you can

judge your worth of what she was getting at one point if you were providing a good service at that job got rid of you

for a reason had nothing to do with your ability at a that's how each person chooses to go

about their business some people have the luxury of leveraging their last

offer or their last salary which is your I come coming from this so I'm not taking anything that's far from this

ballpark other people when you unemployed you make zero dollars yeah

but that's zero what does that mean no Joe that means that you can't say something last Dill's 100 million it

means that that's what your number is that no no it's not your numbers at zero no if you make if you're coming up for a

hundred million dollar confidence cruise you'll put you have to understand but I said that the child everybody does

business smart business is done that way if I just got a hundred

hundred million dollar contract only go about what you're saying if you want me to cut my hand playing this in his

League nobody wants you to play in this league for the money you're asking the wall Chappelle wants him to play no no I

said no one wants you to play for the money you're asking Oh nobody now won't play not an NFL team that XFL team not G

League no nobody's nobody's offering you that I think those are two separate points you're not not in my story though

in my story whatever you just finished making the exit fellas you can't get it from nowhere the XFL to some degree when

it comes to a quarterback that got a hundred million dollars at one point they're a start-up and don't have that so yeah I can't go in there thinking

they're gonna have that hundred million if I ask 400 million that I'm stupid but I know I'm worth 100 million at the top

top level so let me gauge low earth in this and I've been in it and I'm and I

refute that with you are not worth 100 million if you can't get a hundred

million from anywhere well we know that that's not his ability we go in this we

know we know about its going to a renegotiation with Spotify I could think this podcast is worth 100 million

dollars I could have another suitor somewhere willing to pay twenty thirty I

can't get the hundred there's no point in me bringing up the hundred and no

matter that I got that happen today I'm at zero and if [ __ ] out there is only

giving me that's 15 for it then what the [ __ ] am I talking about more saying no

you took you said what you think the podcast is worth if we're coming over 100 all right if we just don't know

about you your operative we're just coming up on your million dollar my same premise we're coming off 200 million

dollar deal and now that deal is ending our suitors won't give it to us again their competitors won't give it to us

again that 100 only exists in our past deal mm-hmm my question is if that's the

case why do you reference it moving forward because nobody in that case it would be okay then I'm not I'm not

signing for what I don't think I'm worth can I ask you something you won't find can I ask you something alright so if you're leaving the

everyday struggle thing I'm not gonna compare the revolt thing because that's what you started that whip up it's a whole different comparison but say there

was another business that was a similar maybe a step down from complex are you

not gonna use the information engage what you are worth with that show in your negotiation to your next gig

and that's where I'm saying that subjective to the person I don't think that would be smart

so I'm saying no so you're gonna just regard I wouldn't every pass you've done in it in the exact same type of thing

we're gonna do the same show I just no longer want to do it with these people it's different your work you're not not

saying what's worth are you not going to take that information of what my ability got me here engage it to what I think

this company may have or produce or what type of value I bring to this company

what dollars I'm gonna bring them because I know what my ability does here my answer to that is I'm never putting

what I think my true value and skill level brings compared to one entity it's

always compared to the field which is why my reply to that is if I can't get

50 million from anywhere else from anywhere yes I think my true value is 50

million yes I just came off making 50 million like easy money but if it's not

available anywhere no I am not moving forward expecting 50 million me okay I

understand how some other people could formulate that differently but still you

getting to that your values from your man your worth there your vast oh we don't know my point was gonna be an

unknown I know can only send down the contract and went to the XFL and said I made this at the NFL gap is not that

stupid his lawyers not that stupid his managers not that boy I don't want to round a mate that stupid but I do think he

gauged what he was worth and I don't bring to the XFL I can't speak to the

intelligence of him or his team because we've watched them go about things where it was conveyance a fell can't afford

the same money that NFL try again I just - copy that don't tell me that sense of PA I agree with that

I'm sure you think there's a startup that don't tell me he didn't go in there aware of his value and saying I'm not

budging from a deal he might break my throne stick on this now some people could say I'll bring some people may think that's really smart for me if you

can't get that from anywhere else I think you're shooting yourself in the foot that's just Joe's opinion no I

don't disagree all we're saying is your value is only ever them whatever you can

get from the market whatever hundred million else mark no no no no you

telling me what he got okay so that's his value value once that the highest if

possible place is negotiate under that guy so I'm saying if I'm a Super Bowl

quarterback mm-hmm I made a hundred million dollars they gave me a dinner fill game you may know the average

salary expose fifty five grand mm-hm four player hmm you gotta know

that I'm not playing for nowhere near that anyway aim to me yeah came to me to

be the poster boy to face mm-hmm the the workhorse I should have so yeah I have

to pay me as such now we don't know what he asked for but it was definitely more than 55 where's where I think it shivers with

cap because the XFL would not be paying for his ability no that's minuscule to

what I'm sure that XFL was talking about with brain Kaepernick in I'm sure he has so much attention right now he would

bring so many people to come and watch especially for that first week that he comes in and suits up Martian dice will

change so the negotiation okay I can see

Joe's point because it is a bit different because at the NFL he was getting paid for his ability and his

superstardom towards the Super Bowl type time now I have to rethink in my head

what I'm worth for attention so he may think attention wise and the dollars i'ma bring in the XFL is worth

Taz much we ain't got it all right so that's where y'all B's at I'll be feeling like y'all speak from not

putting yourself in this situation like I'd be feeling like y'all speak from a logical

point of what is right and just what is wrong no I don't feel like that's how

life works yeah if you think we're speaking from life being of right thing to do cuz mole

is always right in that yeah I just made five million what are we talking about I

think there's nothing for me to talk about if you don't have at least that to match but as life and negotiations go

ahead and just don't I don't see it to really go that way if you can't cool you made a five you know is not another

suitor to offer so it's also so now what we gonna do are we gonna sit and not work until we get to five yeah I got a

hundred million in the back see you later yeah I don't need the money there it's not about the money right now Oh see that's where we differentiate

yeah it's not about the money potentially I don't know an unemployed

person to need some money no you can't the worst an points of negotiate from is

that everybody a perfect world leverage

right now every changes people games on

that defer his first game they want it nationally televised soda that's a guarantee his jersey will sell out

guaranteed every stadium he goes through every XFL stadium every game will sell

out first price will be without without question so he has that's not an

assumption those are some that's not an assumption okay so he's talked about me

replying in a fell play he's not even playing in an effort everything you just said is a fact however the XFL would have to gauge his

true value as it pertains to them so yes we know that Colin Kaepernick's first

game would be telling about everybody once said he would drive raisins to audience we know all of that if the XFL does not does not seem

optimistic about their delivery of said asset to garner those results then that

is not worth that investment you don't need to the eggs boy let me were planning this flat out

but yes mall that happens all the time in business not to bring that many names

[ __ ] we just watched [ __ ] luminary roll out every big name in the world

that was eight figures and up because of luminaries ability to market these

people maybe it didn't pan out the way that they thought it would that's what

I'm saying about the XFL it's not just about what we know Colin Kapernick to be worth what is he worth when paired with

them who may be shaky about their roll out who maybe only want certain amount

of eyes in the first year maybe we're not invested in it this man reason is why it's much it's many reasons why we

may not do that in year one which is why they use the word exorbitant what a shot

for a company that has all this money that took our now even if it's a start-up I still didn't have the money

they have their money to use the word absorbing it means you put us under well

they shot this shot for the stars yeah he's happening shouting XFL

settlement that he got out all parties involved but I mean every time I see Kaepernick

and Nessa reply to some football [ __ ] that the NFL has put into action it looks to me like he wants to play

football he never looks like it's only a

business thing I encountered with all of all of the business I think he wants to

play football under his terms which is a reasonable thing yeah you gotta remember

he passionately football the XFL is he knows that he is if he goes to the XFL

it's his league it says yeah if he signs back in NFL it's not his league true so

you move with the NFL differently with the XFL you look at it like family y'all

know that we started together yeah I'm gonna generate a bunch of [ __ ] money

for this league I have to be compensated for that that's the smart business smart negotiation

and if you I can't afford it I can't pay my number then it's like I well you know come back maybe and the company's not

compensating you in year one for some unproven as a start-up [ __ ] prove it

prove it in the first year that you can get X amount of eyes to our unproven commodity and then you'll be worth it

all will never use the word exorbitant but you want us to have faith in that in year one of our business model I'll take

uh you know who you know what this is perfect the way Colin had handled his uh free agency he didn't step he could have

probably could have played that year he didn't see said no pay me off for what you already saw don't worry about if I

still got it coming on for this injury don't worry about how well I can play coming over this injury you saw what I

did before I got hurt I don't believe it I'm not stepping out there you you know and you know who was who did that the

wrong way Isaiah Thomas I don't believe that you should have never played he said when he got look when he got traded from Boston sat out pay me off for what

I just did in Boston in both scenarios you're talking about the finances from

one entity and how they view separate parts which would we have the NBA or a

part of the NBA reviews Kawhi Leonard versus how they view Isaiah Thomas and this we're talking about a separate

unproven entity with Allah no I'm all our funds I understand up no no I understand that

part I'm just saying as far as you saying you have to prove that you can still bring those eyes and that gone to

that that that media that attention like nah no pay me and I'll show you that that it I still have that drawing power

that's what I'm saying but once you step out they'll say all right it doesn't work now you don't have no negotiation

so go on to your next contract yeah no so you know yeah I want to do that to yourself don't you don't move that's

weird enough yeah you're right yes that's where the negotiating table comes about you don't want to do that to

yourself and don't even make sense for you to do that but the other person ain't about to just well in some

instances ain't about to just pay you for what they believe you can do in year one you have to prove something

co-op proved in Toronto so I would say about that you saw how that worked now I

do want to say what Joe said good camp hasn't playful for four years uh like I could understand why they would be like Faldo

the competition is not the same that's true he will easily go down an like that [ __ ] we know his value in the NFL I

don't know his value with this unproven come on it cuz I don't know their value I don't know their ability to mark at

the start ye yeah well you don't have to put Kaepernick on the back of the jersey

you don't have to market that's gonna market it because that's were not

producing enough jerseys yes because what you saying what you saying the only thing proven from it is it's

word of mouth to actually put that into effect more I hear media frenzy in what

you're saying like that's a fact you put Kaepernick on the XFL I see media every game man cameras man next

cert and I see all that mm-hmm if the XFL don't know how to translate that that's on them which is why they but a

sound right view is valued but it sounded like you were knocking cat when you sent does he want to play football yeah he wants to play football he also

wants to get paid what he's worth and I think that he can do both that oh so that thank you

that's at that point you can't get mad at cat for what he's asking for if we're not ready to handle what you whatever

you would have wait you said does he want to play full media like I'm trying to progress I'm trying to further the conversation I'd say okay

now what got you the XFL gang got it and NFL and got it

so now now what happened you chillin until he maybe and that's why I was

saying maybe he still has a majority of the head hunter Milligan abandoned yes I'm sure I would be cool with don't say

it looked like he just chillin when him and Nessa replied to everything happening in football world it don't

look like you're just chillin it looks like you have a grievance got you and if you have a grievance there's still

agreements for sure of course but you can't because that if you wanted to go if you just want to play football then

go play in a semi-pro team they'll be like telling an actor don't get what you're worth just go do community

shut up a dribble LeBron if then that what I'm just saying if you're looking

at it at the point of view that would be like telling an actor all right if you'd love it and just want to do it for the love of because you love acting go do

community theater not abroad point for me is like no get what you're weird do you an act where do you get your worth

CFL maybe not that you would say probably have the bag effects for anybody if you feel your worth is one

thing and you can't get it anywhere in the marketplace the question is then what do you do to you just hold tight

until somebody comes up with what you feel you're worth is how do you maneuver in that know you can compromise what

you're worth but I have to be comfortable with a compromise okay I I have to understand that listen I'm not

gonna get my dream or what even what I think I know I'm valued at but I understand this is a company or

corporation that I want to deal with and I think it'll further me as a person if I deal with them enough so and I'm cool

there I may disagree with exactly the terms here but for now I'm cool not for nothing if it doesn't work there

you go do some other [ __ ] Colin Kapernick is a smart dude he's beloved he's a hero to many people there's

probably a huge amount of ways that he can make some money outside of throwing a football sure so that's what you do his sneaker

sold me do you keep creating something you know same thing that happened to you what did you do when the labels didn't

value you figure some [ __ ] out what did you do when music started because I rap

in acapulco [ __ ] you figure some when I said yo what you say and I'm leaving this after this huh but I agree what you

said I had a issues so I went on to make more money than I was making when I had

an issue with something but if I was never asking for anything absorbing it I

was never asking for more than what the field would deliver and if I were

putting if I put myself in that position I don't know what I would do I don't know what the comments don't know what

there's something exuberant I thought I could get more in the field yeah that that's what I'm saying I'm

always only talking about what the field is doing you're gonna always beef with the one entity that you involved with

you're gonna need to be able to leverage what the field is saying so yeah complex

thought that and I disagreed and if we would have just continued to butt heads that would have been in the fight I'm worth more than this no you're not well

[ __ ] you the field is saying this now what are you doing that's where I'm at but when

the field don't say it everybody just would maybe would do something different um what else is

there that's that's important that was well thought out about well kinda in

that field the the Knicks told their branding guy the stop stop stop branding

us I know he hired you to brand but I'd appreciate if you'd stop branding Steve

Stoute went on ESPN's first take yesterday afternoon yesterday morning

and talk about the Cowboys did his good night in yes Steve Stoute his best job

of defending the Knicks in all areas of facets and shortly after his appearance

there the Knicks released a press release that said Steve Stoute does not

have a loud voice and personnel decisions we are leaving that for the

president who we have not named just yet and that quote is from Steve Stoute in

the press release to say oh my bad I [ __ ] up huh yeah why would he have

personnel decisions on a basketball team because he was on first take saying that

oh he was saying he was implying that he was or did I won't say that he implied he said that he is part of a team but

his voice is a loud one oh whatever you get from that you get from it but the Knicks felt like you're probably

undermining our president position and you should speak out about that got it before there's any confusion yeah that's

all it's pretty reasonable he's not a basketball guy right he's a branding guy

yeah so let him bring sunny still well no that was kind of my god I can shoot that

was kind of mall and eyes of original point whatever episode there was like fam we need to focus on the court at

this point hmm this is not the right step and I'll [ __ ] with stout and I think he's amazing at

what he does but this this ain't no there's you know a point guard a key shoot yeah because I mean the Knicks are

still in the most point guard they're still the most valuable brands in sports like today we marketing their point

guard just had 16 nine nine and nine

nothing they do have a kid off the bench that's not afraid I was nervous I believe nothing

what does that mean sixteen points nine rebounds 9 assists and nine steals tell me about one game per your starting

point guard I'm told me it's all my one game I need a point on every team deviate as good has a point guard that

can shoot the basketball that's just effect that's what a game is now if you can't shoot miles will stay on the bus okay who do the Lakers yeah

do you think shoot what you mean the Lakers have a few shooters who do the Lakers have they can at point guard that

can shoot LeBron is the point dog you think the kids think Steve Stoute is

cool I don't think the kids know who Steve Stoute is cutting dolan things as if

that was cool all right and I think Steve Stoute is cool I think used to of course tell about the

kids that they're trying to brand and make the Knicks cool know what the kids think what do the kids think I don't

know I don't know do you think that's exactly the point of dolan hiring a branding person to this level so make

make the Knicks life and the whole point was the coop stinking Wiseman was what Kady said nobody wants to play for the

Knicks they're not as cool as I once thought this is a direct response to what Katie said whether y'all like it

enough I will not be semantics man I'm only saying no because I don't think the Dolans Steve Stoute or any of the Knicks

brain trust care about what the New York City kids think kids talk about the kids that will

eventually end up being in the draft or a free agent I'm not talking about the kids they're all the players yeah

they're kids I think they care about what the players name okay kids or not yeah all right

that's all I'm asking good luck Katie what do you mean at the mix part where

are cool they're not they're not cool they're not yeah but you know have gonna call Katie the way even the way my

generation Linux and we never won a [ __ ] thing okay but my thing is if Katie signs with the mix guess what the

Knicks become overnight cool cool no they don't it's a big jump it's a big

big jump agree they already sell out almost every game with no talent on the team valuable franchise oh no I'm not

cool I'm not talking about money crux of my argument boils down to does Katie

view himself as cool and a difference maker in the cool department I do not believe that he does not he does I know

hi I think Kady knows it he's one of the

best basketball players to walk the face of the earth oh absolutely I do not think the Kady

who has ten different burner accounts on Twitter dad I do not think that Kady

whose I'm speaking girlfriend whose girlfriend had multiple times throughout his career has come out and told us how

much of a follower he is and maybe not so much of a leader how impressionable he is I don't think a deal insecure I'm

not arguing don't use the X as the burner accounts

burner accounts for Turner account that's fine don't use it all nor the X but Russell Westbrook said all the same

things anybody on the done they're all the same all right forget about it I

just don't think ad views himself has the cool changer around her

uh in basketball world for kids that are in the draft or free agents and are young yes they want to play with Kady in

New York yes I think that's cool in the basketball world I'm out saying what school to you and I in the social world talk about

what school in basketball it's cool to play with Kady in New York City listen man if I if I'm a young and I

watched Kady when I was in high school yeah it's cool I'd like to play with Katy this is what my only point is talking about how Katy

views himself I'm just saying that he's

wrong you don't even be body and the Wardrobe walk-ups like whoa how do we

determine who was cool I don't think hey Dee is in that well no you don't think

what do you think either it's a my point right now there are kids all over the country with his sneakers on his

sneakers so which means people think he's cool it katie is a lot of kids

favorite basketball player absolutely and not only that it's like eating in the basketball world only but even if the even if the Nets let's say

the next win the championship why would we say that no we're just bringing up a point but why don't it always gonna be

to cool it to fighting for tenth position I'm not timeout right now I'm so just know they can make a run if the if the

Nets win a championship when would that be happening I'm just saying if but if the Nets won the championship what if

they think that what is that if will be as loved in New York as Patrick Ewan is never worth yeah no Kyra South and Katie

know you don't know what they'll put

together the next three years who the nets I mean they get healthy they're gonna be

a good team that's yeah I'm not just gonna dismiss them like that I'm not saying they're the lock-in for ya give

them a couple years of Katie and Kyrie together yeah I'm not just immediately saying no no but I'm I'm saying all

right how many years you want them to have to go given three hours together this how they intend see and what they can do at least

three healthy oh yeah at least you can't just deny two superstars and say

absolutely no [ __ ] way like I'm not doing that I just want to play sleepers and talk about do anyways family will

mall I haven't seen that that good smart

who knew that it would end at three hours there go get more time press the

time yeah we have to go enough time for

these shenanigans come on Rory sing it alright we get into

this segment a little later than usual but it's still Black History Month

[Music] keeping it simple this week with my

Black History Month inspirations man trying to keep it with somebody who's still alive to give the flowers to

somebody who's still young and identifiable with the younger crowd your first two was just a love yeah I know

but as soon as I said I'm like parks came in and made me feel bad for them being alive but like parks with yo James

Washington is from Buffalo and he invented the railroad I'm just trying to

give Steve Harvey some props but okay and this week I'm keeping it within the

same realm I'm going with Nick Cannon Nick Cannon someone who inspires me

because y'all called him corny for a vast majority of his career that was helpful to me someone working through

that again someone that stands toe-to-toe with the major corporations who out back and out finance him I

wanted to come out on top has one of the top shows on MTV MTV - that doesn't look

like it'll be discontinued any time soon he's only been intimate with some of the most beautiful women that you've ever

had the pleasure of knowing and still today is out there speaking at all

speaking at colleges doing his due diligence says a black man trying to

spread awareness and educate I'm going with Nick Cannon I want to thank Nick Cannon for his contributions and tell

him that I appreciated him while he is still here to hear it shout out to you Nick thank you for giving me some [ __ ]

that I can apply within my own journey don't I like it and I like Nick a lot

yeah [ __ ] whoo I'm gonna go with a gentleman by the name of Mel Davis who was the chairman

and one of the founders I know Moore knows mad Mel Davis's no I don't

no I'm not talking about the basketball player Mel Davis oh I was gonna get to

that but you in black history ball the

average 5.3 it's a very sensitive time

for black people Mel Davis was a gentleman that was the chairman and one of the founders I know

it's cool if you want to laugh

we have people choose to use the word gentleman by the name of no Davis I said that and was interrupted you want a

laugh to Black History joke I do have a black ID oh I'm chillin I don't worry you're right okay again

this Mel Davis was a chairman and founder of the Kappa League which is

part an organization in tune with Kappa Alpha sy which focuses specifically on

high school students as far as putting together their futures whether that be college businesses okay what he was into

Rory self-conscious but they don't mean I interrupted him no Joe and I know when

Joe does this like I don't know what the [ __ ] is going on he call it self conscious I can tap my friend why are

you looking at the ceiling while males contributions are speech right go ahead

man anyone specifically to Joe's hometown Jersey City Kappa Lee becomes a Vera

specifically in Queens a very very great program for high school students specifically

black high school students that may not get the specific needs as far as college

prep business prep tax prep life prep

just positive figures within their lives that they may not run into every single

day Kappa League is an amazing program so Mel Davis the chairman and one of the

founders which started in Los Angeles actually so yes shout out to him I

thought that was some real ignorant [ __ ] that y'all did but it's cool we did so

much some [ __ ] the data demo no well more Jo oh don't you saying oh but okay

no thank you so you know she was doing

like that don't say I'm sorry what you doing but I think it's corny it's stupid stupid in this corny but do I get a bear

rare no not with this now you get an accurate read yeah gets to look through the sky

and it means the same okay can't tell me

I can't eat you is it my gold I'm gonna

pay no parks is [ __ ] somebody from our Schenectady from our oh yeah this

okay he's also from Harlem though actually pay our mr. Sidney Poitier man

he's the first african-american win Academy Award for Best Actor so I figured it's Oscar time was only right

to pay homage to Sidney Poitier legend he's going on to do a lot of other amazing things in film and in life in

general so salute Sidney Poitier dope we talked about George read he was a jazz

drummer this tour with Charlie Parker and which other famous jazz musicians in the 60s and 70s and later in life

settled in Elmira run from and ran a pick anybody out no I'm gonna pick

people from my hometown that inspired me just asking don't think that's cool yeah

anyway it was a great little jazz spot that you know brought a bunch of people together had great food great drinks great music and he always was like big

on educating other young artists and musicians and sounds so Porsha how about

George Reed that's right how'd you know

rap no more you want nobody to rap the beetle how you mock a segment you could

you so you so self-destructive it's it's nasty you so toxic within yourself word

you no more hide behind the Joe Budden cloak for his entire life

and honestly I am I am getting tired of it what am i I'm laughing up here by every faucet rock what am I

you said Maul Davis was an athlete Mel Dave Mel dick I was listening to be

schooled by Rory all right but somehow but let's address and ignored more

looking at the plant it's cool moves

y'all have your outside of Joe Alliance going home I know what it means when you

look at plants man to man get his [ __ ]

off three man pulled up a basketball player I didn't even when he said that play

ball you think I knew he averaged 5.3 so what scream man put on the screen so why are you thirsty ball at all cuz he honestly thought I thought that too

which was fine which was fine you're not trying to

carry on Colby from empowering the lady

I'm full of [ __ ] display today it was awesome laughing Gary

time for no reason I look at the blame

[Applause] like yo that plays hard

exactly yeah I will fight as Liebherr okay holy moly I'll tell you see this is

sickening it's [ __ ] ridiculous so in the words of the Riza's [ __ ] ridiculous alright let me see what I got here no

you don't just don't mock the process of

what you wanted to try to kill him along

with you and then when a mall and parks

gonna stop hiding behind the Joe Budden cloak that was no chance for who's

giving you bars no I'm not roll y'all that didn't respect me Oh Joe you're just deflecting that's all you're doing

this it which is fine it's cool I don't mind you two lately oh you're Miranda come on I get such a

bad rap on this podcast I'm telling you well you guys

thank a buy for listening this week man we will be back this weekend baby

hey singing Coco guys gonna go to roots

picnic what is it a great question May 30th 30th what happened picnic just

a lineup I think yeah I would like definitely that's WV reminded me of it it's a good

line if I'm not doing it again that [ __ ] was fun last year well besides the Stampede like I would want to see

meek here summer the baby I would be going for snow oh my god burna boy

funder cat I would have to see what the Reid and Elliott Wilson are doing then

that whole black thoughts Griselda Raekwon goes fit like yeah I don't even think there's a way for me to see all

this well the roots with Musiq Soulchild SWV and brandi as a collective add add

sir in there i love buddy to phony people i really love like there's a lot of stage

Raekwon ghosts and Griselda's on aspire uh I think it's the sword fight stage

I'll be in the bushes

of course cuz you'll be there more you going I don't know just way too far

ahead no God willin I shout out to the roots Questlove Philadelphia everybody that

plays a part in putting this event together what an amazing car yeah yeah

they bodied this I think I do say Palooza come on man I mean I thought that was above mica

through it how does that work do-seong elevator no we are a host in

deejay performance we've died we've done it at festivals before gotcha yes little festivals you stole are do

say it's my question of course they now new to this they true to this until the

weekend man we gonna [ __ ] out of here keep us in your prayers lord knows you need to be there until the next time

arrivederci hasta LaVista adios so long

goodbye arrivederci whatever else means goodbye we'll talk to you guys next week

man or this weekend whatever hope you all enjoyed this and we're gonna [ __ ] out of here any parting words from you

guys huh shout out to all of the people in chemo that listened to us I was told

that no doubt people listen yeah I was very surprised to hear that so shout out

to them prayers strength get well you know thank you yes

shout out to anybody working in a waste management business one of those people reached out to me and I felt bad because

there's mad of y'all and we should be acknowledged so I might of you guys shot to the ad making a lot of money the

activists asked me to give them a shout and they deserve it absolutely respect

we've got the shout outs out the end but [ __ ] it so we're here just get them out yeah no Doug you have to all of you guys

out there somewhere all right Rekha's Faden