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what is this welcome to episode 335 am I

correct save on save on 337 all of us

all right all right all right I got it

episode 3 37 of the Joe Budden podcast

I'm your humble gracious grateful and

highly favored host Joe Budden here not

a few of my nearest and it while I'm not

here with a few I'm not here with Joe

you know anymore yeah I mean no not

anymore changed I changed it quarantine

is changing a change man isn't time for

growth self-reflection personal

inventory build up build on your

foundation improve upon itself come on I

lost sent me I mean I caught your

therapy session this morning it was

really good mall Oh we go do tell it

Rose out the way buddy

I'm doing 50 tonight this

oh that's a lot of [ __ ] just kiss Oh

Lauren hi so I'm shave me the ball Oh

bless ya you can't score on your team no

I can score on your teammate down like

I'm on like you no no just move I didn't

see you in there that's not shocking

scorn you I'm just saying give me my

home not seen you in there this morning

I see you and I was there I was there

whitey

yeah we didn't talk like interests like

he turned it to like I didn't know you

had the Idris Elba like you know I mean

like hopefully you got accent you know

you had to see Joe you play truth or

truth with Joe you know when he getting

that bad yo listen Joe is this a nasty

bag I see why Joe be up at like 7:00 in

the morning it's different Joe yeah you

got a beat your girl you gotta wake up

before her get your [ __ ] off oh okay

gotcha glad you cleared that up more

whoa what was that a different show than

you're used to seeing this morning oh

man it was you know it was just it was

just a different the energy was just

different now for the people who are I

know where I have no idea what mall is

talking about first of all shout out to

our Spotify listenership shout out to

her YouTube viewership shout out to our

first and last time listeners again

shout out to the essential workers out

there holding us down during this global

pandemic

shout out to all the people that may be

suffering from loneliness

out there that's really important who

else do I want to shout out shout out to

the people who were sick with something

else before this Kovac [ __ ] hit and now

like y'all became unimportant for some

reason yeah after the people that was

suffering for something suffering from

something taking medicine that resisted

what you are anything that was going on

with Colvin I know a lot of that too a

lot of people were already sick and then

they got Kovac and the medicines didn't

they weren't compatible shout out to all

y'all man supermarkets grocery stores

liquor store the weed guys delivery

people delivery people

yeah maybe all holding us down right now

now with that being said for the people

who are totally unaware what [ __ ] was

talking about to keep saying

mm-hmm I've been insta liveing okay yeah

I think most of us have caught some of

it any time you refresh your

instagramming just it's just there you

got to catch this the way what's the

language it's hip the people battle the

sex is going on Joe Budden's page no no

just for some human interaction just to

stay sane so in the morn this morning I

think I was on with a young lady from in

London what time what time we we say

about 7:00 a.m. Eastern Eastern Standard

instance but I mean it's the afternoon

where she is mm-hmm okay so she's ready

to ther yeah yeah come on come on

she's a breakfast you notify yeah she's

ready to yeah talk about a problem no I

didn't know that she didn't have too

many problems but I didn't know that

mall was in there watching my moves

no I wasn't watching moves I was in

there why you clock and Joe was

something you're supposed to watch you

talking JB clock and JB no it wasn't

that I got up and um I just got off

early whatever reason and I went into my

into my uh my text messages and one of

my boys said yo it's always one of his

boys I said yeah look at your man yeah

he was like oh yeah peep Joe out so I'm

like Dave Joe 50 not wait so on it wait

wait wait wait hold on I'm in a rough

you you hurting my feelings right now

because one of the things I never want

to be is the subject of a Yolo looking

deep your man oh no yo you looking at

everyone you trust me I'd never want to

be a yo peep how many how many songs do

you think you've been that yo get your

man guy before

everyone's been it no no see I'm cool

with that I am to get you a man guy you

got to get me yeah I've been that guy

for sure no no you got to get your man

that's Joe and it's somebody I'm Joe the

man will tell you whether you can go get

you minute but it depends how the tone

of get you man is cuz it can be very

sarcastic way to get you man

so get your major yes you're gonna get

your ass beat this was followed with a

lol wait but wait

yo peep there's much worse get your man

because you don't have to get this guy

you know yeah just gonna beep it sure

your own person

leave them don't interrupt him let him

do what he's doing

damn I was a yo peep yeah in the morning

and then more peeps first of all [ __ ]

your man who you man's is who's your man

that's the first thing I thought I was

like are the eggs getting into over

somebody so I was like damn this is not

that Joe is it that Joe is dead I don't

get it no it's even more it's not I

don't not this early oh it's it's taken

away clones let me click on this to see

what Joe doing so I click on the link

and and Joe was talking with a young

lady so I'm like ok this is ok I've seen

him do this throughout the week how'd

she look more come on paint the picture

for us he's she's an attractive girl

she's really pretty good I want to say I

don't think girl she's like she's a

pretty woman so uh and I start you know

whenever Joe starts look he has another

octave that he can go down look once

he's in that active um I start listening

differently I'm like a boyfriend voice

esque oh no it's not he puts on the

extra smokey cigar voice when he really

thinks he's giving out gems just a

little bit of mourning voice mixed way I

had a new board and I'm almost ready for

my coffee maybe listening and he goes

from the lower octave to it's a lot of

temple touching you know whenever dude

is like this did he in his intellect bag

did he adjust on the couch to maybe

bring his legs he does not woken around

at any sat down and he would touch

anytime a man anytime a man

adjusts his hips on a couch to me

position himself into a more studious

over

I said we know he's in his bag right now

I said I gotta watch because I'm not

this a fee I don't want to be on 15 I

said let me keep continue watching so

then I'm listening to her now like I'm

done kind of giggle it at Joe's antics

I'm listening to what she's saying she's

really in her bag so I'm like well were

someone for issues she didn't really

have issues she was more so telling Jo

about herself and some of like you know

she was awkward growing up and Joe was

like no I can tell marks I heard he's a

babe it so I'm sitting there I'm like

okay like this is this is gonna get

really interested in a minute so then

Joe goes to she said yeah you know I'm a

little I'm a little chunky I'm a little

fat so I'm looking like I don't see it

but okay

is this one of those uh IG models that

say they were teased by their curves

their entire life and now they're

embracing them I think because that's

what every girl after she gets surgery

posts but I tell you what I think I

think that this woman no she's beautiful

but I think she also knows I could've

just been - accent all of that mixed

with the English accent anything in

lasses I was accent Bob with glasses

about this [ __ ] - she go ahead this

[ __ ] spinning in circles right so I was

just wait for chair in them so then Joe

goes in - oh you're not chunky last

minute like that the little pouch we

love it it solves it yeah like no Fupa

Fupa is cool it's really it's cool it's

high but I didn't think that Joe was

gonna get into that at 8:30 a.m. like

rest more so before what happened I'm

like Ram can't do that parked over a man

to do that

I just didn't think I would here 8:15

a.m. I mean in to defend but you know

that my guy here it was a afternoon her

time so he was giving her her operate on

your time boy wait hola hola brewery

mall

you know that's my bag I know that

that's my bag like the like like let's

have a deep talk that's me that's a

manipulation 101 back no I knew I know

Joe likes to talk and this young lady is

very well-spoken so I knew that this was

gonna be interesting I'm just laughing

cuz Joe's my guy and I just know Joe so

I'm just like let me just watch him I

need to see his 8:15 I never seen his

8:15 a.m. bag yes you did you live with

me from a long time but I still never

saw you're bagging a few was like ooh

did I was viable to about a pool with

the hook out and drugs at 8:50 women

like there's a lot of shame back then

which I didn't know you don't say about

a pool Joe was different from in a room

joke yo you want to deny all the reasons

that my jersey is hanging up in the air

no this is not an attack on that I'm

just saying that it was funny to see

that bag that early in the morning whoa

whoa more any miles waiting at different

times

well well Jamil funny you should say

that see I keep a nice little story in

the tuck for when whenever [ __ ] try to

pop fly and now you and you too [ __ ]

that I envisioned trying to pop fly one

day I thought those were compliments you

always have to observe when your man is

getting in his bag not at 8:30 and I

don't want mall in my life at 8:30 in

the morning watching my debita Joe I was

giving it up though he was something I

just said that I was doing I was giving

it up though giving it up

listen mall one day unbeknownst to me I

had went to sleep too early so I woke up

too early and I woke up at 1:30 in the

morning and went on the phone and who do

I see sitting right there you guessed it

young Rory okay clack classic life okay

you know I'll even go that board I said

one of the one of the reasons it's a

five all the things that made it classic

now hmm and see I know you I know my god

more and I call over the next day you

did and I told him about it but when

it's girls around

extra funny on that life no I did look

at mom was a comedienne

they were so on that line so so I'm

sitting I'm sitting in I'm almost

getting mad I'm almost getting mad I'm

saying wait till I meet all right no you

you homeboy Jamil clay um homeboy no his

name something an you extra funny I'm

like yo I've been dying to get mall to

open up

well you had I've been dying to get more

imma to be more expressive on the

podcast I malls Gayle King and I just

gotta do it but why is he on insta life

on this platform that doesn't pay us

giving away all it is funny and the more

i sat there more saw some different

names up in that chat it was in there

it was definitely saw a few names up in

that chat homeboy I said AHA no yeah no

I know listen laudanum you not a lot of

new music yeah a lot of new music came

out well well lastly before we get to

new music let me ask y'all have y'all

been quarantined what's different in the

week hey buddy still good what are y'all

doing while you're home alone nothing

has changed oh yeah I went out twice

this week like different grocery stores

and your man's gone you put you put

stars on the lorries yeah yeah I got 50

max you didn't have to rush out to get

the masks yes

no all cutting up stockings okay no no

we ain't no we can't go out there with

stockings the you meet that [ __ ] owner

with the stocking that's true

Roma saw your stocking [ __ ] he walking

right through that I saw my TV was on

mute this morning but I saw a Cuomo

trying to introduce a plan to slowly

unfazed New York yeah jump start

yesterday yeah Trump did three well

drama guarded it in March fair Joe

started February but uh it can somebody

tell me more if we want to pause it

y'all wanna keep talking I can find it I

wouldn't keep talking about

the general consensus or the general

system at least of the the whole

countrywide rollout is there's like

tears three tears so once you've reached

a certain percentage of hospital

availability and a lowering amount of

cases over a certain amount of time you

get to Phase two and then you can start

opening some businesses and then once

you reach a new percentage of hospital

openings and cases reported it goes to

phase three which is somewhat like

normal life and now each stage they have

you know pretty it's pretty vague we're

gonna be on the same timeline

all we have to do is keep watching uh

California or keep watching Mark

Zuckerberg when he closed everything

down till fall 2021 I follow Zuckerberg

because I think he's part of that Eyes

Wide Shut party

so anything Zuckerberg do I take note of

and all Facebook events are done to fall

of 2021 oh yeah it won't be any

conversation very different wants to go

through our eyes wide shut party I mean

who does although if you saw the movie

you look kind of lit it did yeah yeah it

did did you

I think we're halfway there at puffs

crib right look that's the party that's

the hip hop so what I have the phases

here give it to us so phase one which

Trump supporters correct me if I'm wrong

you can fake news me I think he said in

some places may 1st II wanted to start

phase one obviously not in New York

because New York is tit artists

individuals vulnerable people

shelter-in-place

workplace telework and return to work in

phases schools remain closed gatherings

no larger than ten people travel

minimize non-essential travel big venues

restaurants gyms open with strict social

distancing Phase two I didn't hear a

date on did you guys here date on Phase

two no I think it's all dependent on the

percentage of cases and hospital

openings so for phase two individuals

vulnerable people in shelter place

workplace continue to encourage telework

which i think is work at home schools

are open in phase two gatherings more

than fifty people should be avoided

travel non-essential travel can resume

big venues restaurants bars gyms open

with social distancing when it is

they didn't give a date for things

there's no you're gonna slow determines

I don't think it's day it's it's

percentage based it's all yes we don't

be having any concert or sporting event

in New York is [ __ ] if we're loans and

of n-dimensional Mall mall definitely

sounds like these are Mars no jokes no

we're gonna fix that Mike yeah work we

all thought it was good boy are good

boys the night my reasonable doubt was

recorded on the carrier phase three

individuals vulnerable people interact

in public but still social distance

workplace no restrictions big venues

open limited physical distant sanitation

protocols and then phase four I believe

is fatality oh that's like Mortal Kombat

Mortal Kombat in another well yeah we've

been playing Mortal Kombat well well

public unrest I can see being a real

concern I'm already starting to see

people get a little unsettled with

staying announce I am oh yeah oh yeah

like there are more people there more

and more people actually outside there

are more cars on the road and listen

anytime New York crack 62 degrees

we all saw people in the streets I would

have to wonder what this is gonna look

like when we start getting eighty degree

days that's one in two if you keep these

businesses shut down for long enough I

can imagine riots and looting I mean I

don't know if I'm an extremist than that

no you know but we've seen it before

so uh you know it's different with this

I don't think that people are you know

the rioting thing right now because

you're at eighteen million people

unemployed we are setting more than that

away meant I think it's more than that

yes well as of this morning I think it

was 18 million maybe that was just over

here maybe I don't know Jay what but

unemployment numbers are record-breaking

right now right

yes so so that that's what leads me

their mall yeah but I think only because

they realize this is a real situation as

far as health that I don't think people

can really get but so I understand

people getting uneasy and all of that

but it's not like this is just some

government [ __ ] like they just wanted to

shut [ __ ] down for you you underestimate

stupid rich white people no I don't I'm

just saying I think that people you know

in the cities like New York that has

been hit hard they've realized because

everybody by now even know somebody by

some chance or has family that has

actually died of this disease so they

understand that is real so this is not

like a game that you know the government

is just playing even though it still

might be a some [ __ ] going on in the

government I'm just saying that people

realize that this is actually real and

people are dying so there's not much

that's almost like people getting mad

and I hate when I see this at the

airport and it's like bad weather and

the flights are like delayed and people

get mad at the person behind the desk

it's like they don't have anything to do

with this flight being delayed like why

are you yelling and cursing at them so

it's almost like if people go out and

start rioting and start like trying to

loot and break into stores and [ __ ] it's

kind of like but that has nothing this

says nothing that these people are

suffering just like you their businesses

are closed like they can't make any

money so I think people kind of

understand that we are all in this

together everybody is kind of in the

same boat I've heard multiples when

wealthy stupid white people in positions

of power echo the sentiment of if [ __ ]

die then they die yeah I've heard of her

Trump say in the beginning some form of

that they're old so I had people die

yeah they were saying that I'm

paraphrasing hey basically they can a

stupid white people [ __ ] stupid

stupid dr. oz did you see what he said

no I just see what dr. Phil said yeah

but we could let's get to that dr. oz

was first and he said uh and I'm

paraphrasing here he said open up the

schools is only gonna be two to three

percent of kids that die oh great that's

crazy and dr. Phil said yeah dr. Phil

said we don't stop the world because

people die from drowning or accidents

a GILF am not drowning at drowning in a

pool doesn't spread when one kid drowns

in a pool it doesn't spread to other

children all right wait the worst

comparison I've ever yeah well what wait

now because let's see here I'm gonna

read something that I got from one of my

favorite gossip sites was the shade room

give you Jeff

yeah what's gossip in the sea I [ __ ]

with feet this is not this is a shade

from feet I don't know feet is the

person that runs gossip in the city

Ashley that's a sick industry fever

wait wait and Joe is fly work oh you

know I why is the word that you want to

use sounds like it you just shout it

around that's fly you have my backers

fly with sleep when I have you bet would

flee shut up

no but this is not this is not feed it

posted this I'm just gonna read this cuz

I found it interesting I have in fact

checked this but I've read some

variation of this in the past this

person says I'm gonna tell you some

stuff about dr. Phil and save you a trip

to Wikipedia he is not a medical doctor

what sorry disappoint he has a PhD in

clinical psychology from the University

of North Texas but he is no longer

licensed to practice in any state why

well in 1988 the Texas State Board of

Examiners of psychologists determined

that he had hired a former patient

without proper separation between

termination of therapy and the

initiation of employment the patient

also made claims of inappropriate

contact initiated by dr. Phil not you

dr. Phil this was kind of dropped in the

case but is you know interesting to know

she goes on he was brought up on ethics

charges for having an inappropriate non

physical relationship with the patient

in 1989 that's the one I read about and

in 2008 for practicing psychology

without a professional license or

certification and also for violating

doctor-patient confidentiality regarding

Britney Spears

so everything doctor shouldn't do yeah

okay sir

he's a render his Texas license in

2006 and has never held a license to

practice psychology in any other state

since despite not being a medical doctor

he started selling weight loss shakes in

2003 the name of the shakes was shape it

up whoo whoo come on those are great

everyone had those because it's first

shake it up whoo whoo if you have to

surrender any type of license in Texas

you know what you have to do to give up

a license anything because it's illegal

to practice psychology without a license

his TV guests have to sign paperwork

saying they are only receiving advice so

so kind of like your I kind of like your

ID you live first water only Phil we

acknowledge this Uncle Phil I like Phil

Jackson we can get ya what we can't

never call him James Avery ever right

you don't think that disrespectful a

little bit James Avery yeah but he plays

like rappers come along and just ruin

somebody's whole legacy that made us a

man rest in peace yeah but no rest in

peace to James Avery

no don't pump it up me to death when I

go no me don't make me a song I can

assure you we roll okay I can assure you

Joe yeah you can rest you can rest easy

you in there yo y'all funny on this

little corner before we get back to work

No all right what else are we saying you

dr. Phil and dr. oz two idiots didn't

Oprah give us both of them I know dr.

Phil I don't know and dr. oz it was to

man I don't know him okay

Oprah and Jordan man look at all the

more you ready to wrap you ready to wrap

we'll get to that it's where you bull

I'm chillin man he's like yo boys a

patriot he's a cowboy he is all over the

place Sunday gonna be fun that's what I

got it okay is gonna be fun Oh Dax will

die to part

one night he better come off like a

[ __ ] straight-a student I tell you

that I'm killing him no he's already

doing a press run saying yell I'm gonna

look like a [ __ ] yeah but that might

be just to get his [ __ ] off that might

be yo check this out y'all I'm being raw

and unfiltered being raw unfiltered hoes

on room yeah he might have you a regular

Joe Surya come on rollin unfiltered come

on lick him already Hey look at one more

I'm just trying to see what you started

it the new way it is hidden I think Mike

like I said Mike only released that

because you know a lot of his fans that

were young and you know us included

we've never seen Mike probably used the

language that we're gonna see him use

like in his documentary I think that's

all is he gonna cuss yeah if you watch

ESPN whenever we remember Mike didn't

grow up in the social media era we

didn't have access to to Mike like we

have to all of these players now but we

don't know what they're doing

what they're eating in their career like

we don't my mother saw Mike drunk as

[ __ ] with white chicks in mad pictures

and I don't want those are just pictures

you didn't hear what he was saying

imagine if an audio he would have to put

on a rock you saying what's an audio

listening nah you're gonna hear some

things that you know [ __ ] yo let me ask

you something what's the line between

between uh respect and Stan respect and

Stan Stan I think is when you wait I

don't think it's a thin londo you wait

outside like a hotel or something trying

to just get a glimpse of somebody and

then you like dressed like that that's a

story that's talking cuz if I respect

someone I'm gonna probably leave them

alone yeah because I was gonna say I

think a better question is between fan

and Stan because respect yeah you

probably just given a head nod and

keeping it moving or a quick pound or

you know what I'm saying

respect is just acknowledging someone

and you know you kind of like you say

Park said you give them a little head

nod or salute Stan is when I knew you

were gonna be at that right slow down

slow down slow down in the stands

defense you posted you're at the

restaurant and then I would order the

same thing who had

everyone slow down for two seconds while

I try to explain this complicated

thought that for this very for this

moment will exclude parks and Rory

because they are white okay wait you

can't exclude us what my original

question and I still would like to hear

from parks and Rory I'm just excluding

you from better than everybody mall my

original question was gonna be like

isn't it kind of man cold if you're from

certain parts that you can't fan or

stand a man am i laughing that that's

not a race thing well yeah when the men

when the jersey era hit I was like 13

when the Jersey area so I was trying to

get all the jerseys

I remember my father screaming at me how

could you wear another man's last name

on your [ __ ] back that's gross oh you

added one last name you wouldn't

flossing they were authentic throwbacks

oh no that's not well that's that's a

man thing that's not a racer visit oh

yeah yeah it's it's I think I think

respect and stand is two totally

different things you can respect

somebody from a distance then is when

you're trying to emulate and do

everything that this person does like

that's I guess I'm saying respect

because as a Knick fan with with Mike it

was a respect thing the same with Kobe

it was an iguana fan of Kobe I knew a

lot but it was starting are there Co

never killed him but it went from hate

to

because an expert of respect to fan fear

with Kobe I don't have that that

escalation of emotions with Mike so it's

just driving me crazy to hear you [ __ ]

[ __ ] be a fan of Mike but that'll

make sense I do I know that don't make

sense I'm you if you're a fan of

basketball you would have to be a family

yeah you have me I think after

retirement you like when Kobe was active

even when I was like on the Sixers wave

when Iverson a no one I didn't like Kobe

because I was on the other side but

after that I I had to respect

he was [ __ ] amazing never like even

even it could be a rival like I'm a huge

Kobe fan but I mean I'm a fan of LeBron

uh-huh Tom I would watch them play I'm

still a fan of LeBron as a good game as

a Patriots fan when Tom Brady and Peyton

Manning went back and forth in AFC

championships hated Peyton then but I

respect the [ __ ] out of pain he's a

[ __ ] amazing quarterback that'd be

weird for me to hate Peyton Manning

right now it'd be weird yeah I think

it's different - if it's not got this

grill rival it's outside of your

division or Conference in the store

we're both Knicks fans we hated Reggie

Miller

I don't hate Reggie Miller now I know

but let's let's open this up outside a

sport actually let me refer to music for

me it would be the same as and I'm not

saying it's exactly the same in Mike's

case but it would be the same as being a

huge fan of a rapper growing up and then

as you get older and you understand some

things about the person you separate the

two true that's what I feel like kind of

exists here with Mike from me

a lot of people went through that with

Colby with the UH with the charge that

I'm not ever gonna speak about um what

did you feel like that will might though

what they might go through mine is

shitty to me but what did he do you just

say he should have you do tune in on

Sunday yeah like fam if anybody else and

we didn't big a Bobby Portis when he

beat his teammate up I wasn't one [ __ ]

what the [ __ ] you talking about so I

could hey when we're gonna have this

talk so I can beat my teammates up if I

win if you're asking did you get the

ring see look competitive that's what it

all came in it if you're gonna hit them

that's where it all came from if my tall

if I feel like ass I just get up and try

to dropkick you you're not gonna say yo

that nigga's competing but no but that's

different because this man this is not a

competitive sport no you grab you if you

go on your phone every Park as if I just

get up and break the phone is it because

I'm young trying to you me being

competitive with

we're compare when the people are I

don't care enough about this so one can

move on what people are cutthroat in

business and may make moves that would

devalue some other people but in the

long run make them richer

yeah it's cutthroat his business is that

not the same thing as competitive sports

I think my whole crew is shitty too like

Berkeley I think is shitty

but Bark Park Lee's the middle admitted

that he but I love him as a personality

the same way I love Mike as a player but

I'm not going home with you [ __ ] so I

don't care but Bart laws relax

I love Charles my [ __ ] janky it was

janky that's it I gotta figure out what

Mike did to Joe he assigned some yeah

yes no done an autograph oh you're a

millionaire if I think hard enough I

might be those who come here that was

Chamillionaire chamillionaire's like

younger than you you had asked him to

sign something nope this was recently

this was when Mike was retired and

Chamillionaire was already famous and he

ran up to him so it's a weird sight all

I want to get autographed the [ __ ] out

of there yes wait what did I tell

chameleon the [ __ ] out of your face I

like trolling a lot I'm so itchy oh you

is you're the same person oh that's a

fact actually love chameleon air I'm

stone I've seen Joe tell Chief Keef he

don't have any more cigarettes after he

just pulled this cigarette out of a back

in the fight that's the Grizzlies a

different culture 20 years we keep acts

for a cigarette Jolene I ain't got no

more

yeah just put a fresh backpack in his

prime scene fans want you to say Birds

that shitty where we was at in front of

Chicago's buildings I think in front of

the universal building he was coming out

of one of those buildings was I afraid

no III wouldn't why the team was Kim's

children he was from the building he was

all standing in the mall makes things

that

normal be mad normal what do you mean

afraid of would you want me to tell you

about chief why nobody came GP was my

[ __ ] - I [ __ ] with him

boy yeah like I know when that's no when

danger is imminent it wasn't no danger

that it wasn't no tension there he

really just was like yo Joe something

that you're good at you like nothing how

much was the pack at that time who cares

the Sally point also in Joe's defense

was someone says do you have an extra

cigarette like I don't believe it

extra smoke okay can I just have one

yeah yeah that's a better question maybe

do you offer maybe a bus down I promise

you all a lot of new music is though yo

mo this [ __ ] right quick you might know

you've been waiting you've been waiting

I've seen the tweets buddy

tweets I've seen the tweets utilize a

platform IG more when did you receive

this album last year no oh no I didn't I

got it last night I heard last night

when the rest of world heard it I didn't

get it earlier I spoke to West last week

though and he was telling who's like

your album is crazy we text about it for

about 10 minutes but other than that I

was like I wasn't I wouldn't even really

want to like early really I'm one day

here with everybody else and on yeah you

see and then let me just point out that

you are super famous when you say no I

heard it with the rest of the world yes

I want it to be like one of the regular

fans that's how you want to digest it

yeah yeah with the winter streets got it

got it out here on the pavement all

right so give us a little bit it was a

little breakdown of that bad boy

um yeah man this is a they're starting

to the host

Grizelda sound is starting to sound like

money is behind it now like the the

sound is changed still roar still

grimy it's still Street but it the music

is starting to sound uh it has more like

richness to it now again you can hear

the money behind it now

they still talking that fly [ __ ] they

still talking that gritty [ __ ] but I

just like the fact that they're not it

doesn't sound like they're moving away

from who they are and what they're known

for

it just sounds like though there's

there's money behind us now

like now we can we can go to different

producers and still find that same sound

that we love but everything doesn't have

to be from the homey derringer you know

even though even though I was you damage

it but it's Allen bugs and all them it

sounds like you got a mixed this would

be the first Hey we were just having

this conversation not about Western I'll

mix us our last podcast was mixed like

Moo music - yeah which means we just put

it out yeah - checked so I was talking

to Roy just about that time I guess back

that the mixtape ever yeah and i what i

was explaining was to be honest i didn't

know the importance of a mix until I met

Royce in 2000 I mean were so eight yeah

I think it was Oh eight and I just

wasn't trained to think like that

because in 2001 2002 - get your [ __ ]

mixed and mastered it wasn't a whole

bunch of parks is just laying around

like you had to literally go through the

label to use some big studio and this

big person that did all this [ __ ] in the

world and once you didn't have that

label relationship you kind of lost that

so on and now you just tossing [ __ ] to

the streets yeah and you're not really

prioritizing mixing if you're just

tossing to the street with no plan or no

business behind your record and I

couldn't afford it to be honest with you

so so while I do understand mall saying

there's money behind it and in parks

replying with they're mixing it now yeah

like there is there's a world where

those two go together I know it sounds

crazy

absolutely absolutely yeah that's what I

mean it just it sounds the sound is and

let me just let me just let me just add

to my statement real quick had we known

what was to come like that's what makes

probably half of my catalogue

unlistenable for me is the mixing on it

had we known that it would go to

streaming and where had we been thinking

that far ahead we may have placed more

value on a mix well if you are an email

to the older projects and remix degree

but or at least or at least maintaining

the files you know I've actually been

spending a lot as cor teen going through

I have every song I've ever recorded

from 2003 on I would say I'm going

through all that [ __ ] seeing what I can

refurbish and make you know listenable

again so I just say I just say that even

if you're not paying attention to the

mix and stuff like that try to at least

keep track of the files so that in the

future if you do what to do something

that's the problem we've encountered

with your catalog is we can't even get

the files final sessions is [ __ ]

impossible yeah yeah hey I've worked

with people that a month ago they'll

play me something like alright well

let's fix this up add some like oh I

don't know what the [ __ ] that session is

so this is just the record not not

everyone's good with file management

[ __ ] it's it's tedious okay it's a task

I'm sure nothing about it it's an

underrated part of an engineer's life

yeah it's a she we need an engineer day

in hip-hop we do honestly Imperials are

like the [ __ ] glue well we were

talking of oh wait let me just close its

point yo I was also telling all roaring

in you know I was thinking that that

died you know I was feeling down on my

catalogue of like damn what was I

thinking not mixing things well then I

remember though technology is advanced

and now an unmixed record can sound a

lot better still today I can tell when

people are not mixing their records oh

yeah no that's obvious like we can tell

when you mix an offer to track when you

don't have the stems when you just it's

just cleaner yeah yeah yeah and and much

more in hip hop in the past ten years

mixing vocals has been more important

than it's ever been a lot because a lot

of these kids use filters and don't

sound exactly like their voice but

before I mean did you ever mix your

vocals in 2002 like probably the same

way they would mix any vote let's put it

through something real quick using

vocals is a real part of hip-hop that

style changed and maybe parks can speak

to that

but like when I first came in they were

really your your vocal was probably

pretty low as they tried to get it to

blend with everything else not really

paying attention to the fact that

everybody's voice is kind of unique and

guess what how how we want our [ __ ]

mixed is a little different so there's a

snap the style change like when I came

in there weren't too many people that

weren't using the ad-lib track to

overdub the whole verse yeah yeah even

home mm-hmm like not the whole verse

hoping to do that but home was pretty he

was always sometimes he overdubbed in

that limit it was pretty rare actually

well he was he was early and I'm letting

my blown vocal Ryan yeah yeah he was he

was early now but if you listen to his

earlier catalog I enjoyed doing that

listening to what he was doing on hand

lips cuz it changed but then the style

changed period like all a lot of early

Drake [ __ ] same thing absolutely same

thing

Dublin doing while she don't know on the

overdubs and then later on it's just

clean I feel like that air when Drake

came out which do y'all 406 when they

were like I like to clean vocal clean I

like clean me to that era in the mid

2000s too late 2008 9 I feel like

everyone doubled up their vocal on the

last two words of each bar yeah uh yeah

later literally it was like a whole

style we call them in and out some pok

pok probably popularized really doubling

back would have like two or three really

sloppy overdubs on top of his vocals or

underneath his vocals I should say but

yeah early early hip-hop was always one

vocal and then now we're getting back to

one vocal and maybe one sparse and yeah

I like the track definitely yes

doubles doubles are completely

unnecessary POC is an anomaly his music

even with his overdub style has aged

gracefully for me and I have to point

out when I heard the story I forgot who

told it of pot going in the studio and

doing like 20 songs every night for like

a week straight I really respected his

uh his ad-libs even more oh yeah like

yeah how erratic they were I'll just

hey man I keep that keep going when I

found out he did Hail Mary in 30 minutes

I was like I Britt wrote in record Hail

Mary in 30 minutes

plus then you couldn't really tighten up

doubles and add lives away you can now

not as easily you know but you would

have to sample each ad-lib and nudge it

like now you are we kicking out right

now one more nerd point Bundy was always

the greatest at that to me at what that

last ad-lib to finish the bar he wasn't

doubling up but he would finish each

line with an ad-lib yeah on another

track I do like if when you do it right

then it I was good

Griselda back to Griselda yeah uh I have

a hot take for the Griselda fans this is

my favorite West project since since

Flag I just might be my favorite but I'm

not mad at that

alright that Artie I don't so no here's

a good catalog thing but I think that

okay my second favorite Griselda project

below Tana talked three this is your

second favorite second favorite yep Wow

I like it how can you determine that

same day and I'm only asking cuz ya'll

say it to me I mean y'all tell me oh

come on I can't create this I can't

judge this know sometimes first listen

works you got it last night and I played

it all day today we're recording kind of

late now got it

oh I think but I didn't say I think

that's a result of like I was saying it

just sounds you know I mean it's like

yeah it's not super honest but it's it's

above what it used to be

it sounds rock nation brunches yeah

sounds like there's money behind the

thing now like so I mean but the content

I'm just glad that the content is still

the same like you have features from

different like a Tyler and Joey badass

feature you know I mean like it's like

okay I didn't either Tyler records

somebody tell me about the tell us

that's the best you don't oh yes hard

yeah Tyler Perugino in Tyler's featured

on one so he's on two records kinda

mmm-hmm but thorn he's featured on it's

with Joey badass

and I thought it was just Joey badass

him and uh oh no uh Billy yes goes on it

okay that's what it is I do love all I

love all the features on here and I

think Alchemist did that would I sound

like such a casual fan I love the

features on here well you say that but

they were they were placed well what

West has done so well his entire career

is allowing other people to be the star

on his own [ __ ] and I think that's kind

of what he did on this whole album like

he let Freddie Gibbs started with the

most [ __ ] verse ever and just let it

rock like the Bodie James shitty West

flipped his voice and kind of let Bodie

stand out in the oh [ __ ] Wes is good at

making other people the star of his own

[ __ ] I guess is what I'm trying to say

Wes is really good at that so he did it

with Benny he did it with Conway we're

all kind of in yeah and this I think

this album is the perfect example of his

career in that aspect like I love the

the Versace joint that's two minutes

where he gets a verse off on some [ __ ]

and then keeps it moving

that records hard he's not trying to be

a superstar like yo look at me this is

my album the inside no I'm talking about

the kid Jay Bruce at he's like a

Instagram kid I don't I'm not own

Instagram he's a modern producer part he

know he's like an Instagram

he's you've seen him in some type of

meme or something at some point like

he's one of those kids

yes brought you yeah yeah but apparently

they're doing a whole album together so

I just wanted to shout him out cuz know

that track is dope on the track that I

was asking mall about a loss sent me

mm-hmm

I was saying I've never heard them rhyme

in and out three men we've pick up the

off bar do that together I'm and I'm I'm

not sure if they've done it before but

they killed that style like they focused

in on it on that that record did y'all

pick up the same yeah it is most that

that's my one point and the second point

and maybe it's too early to talk about

this but one day we'll talk about gun as

a businessman and executive brilliant

really we have it no okay yeah I mean

he's all maybe my casual conversations

my wave I big discus yeah I'm sure you

have

we have never dedicated time on this

podcast to really because when we say

executive like executive is becoming one

of them buzzword of course you can put

it on your bio what does it mean what

does that mean gun is that really for

sure and I don't think people know it to

the extent that he is it and I don't

think anybody's going to tell that story

but either him or us yeah he but he's

always been a you know he says it a lot

that he never really wanted to he

started really focusing on rapping Moore

went up when Conway uh I think when he

got lucky says it all I'm an historian

who's just managing Conway misplay got

buzzing that's my point

like his his own rise as a rapper and as

a crew mm-hmm shouldn't overshadow the

behind-the-scenes stuff that he did and

is doing to get them here mmm good now

has that been highlighted to y'all and I

missed it in my world it has I don't

know to the masses has it the way and

this is gonna what a master super like

all we ever say well you know he kills

the merch that's all him like Fannie

Whaley the way we talk about puff in how

producer credit that we've had that

conversation on here all the time like

puffs dessert okay he didn't touch an

MPC didn't do anything like that but

puff had his hand in every last thing

that had to do with every bad-boy

project mm-hmm that's West with anything

Grizelda period like how bene [ __ ] is

gonna be rolled out look sound visually

down to March to obviously is Wes from

my understanding in India they can

correct me if I'm wrong but yes Wes is

overseeing maybe not even executive

producer music wise but anyway that

project is a brownout and how yeah how

Griselda has become this entity outside

whether you like their music or not you

can't ignore them I think goes to Wesley

I do want to shout out all the people

listening that tweet me to say all we do

is Dickie Griselda that's fine but they

might

dickie their local artists that any [ __ ]

yes we high like in without a town I

don't care about he was saying I dick

like yeah what does that mean like okay

you

we cuz then it's either you're hating or

you're [ __ ] so they are you ain't see

no [ __ ] yeah wait till we talk about

this division help look I'm I can't say

it's a day you ain't seen no Dickie yet

but when we when we get when we get back

next week I gotta say something about

this at Mike I'm not gonna say it today

though you know let me check

I'm probably gonna say I'm not gonna say

it I can't say it today oh crap what

anybody great [ __ ] out um anything

else on those wrap up our grisel is Todd

rocks verse is crazy here you two dicks

at once balls um I found myself I I

found myself [ __ ] have done it I've

seen it in person

[Laughter]

music [ __ ] for a minute to say how I

envisioned Joe and Quarantine and how

Joe is quarantine and ain't the same no

more like I think I killed orgies I

killed yes two chicks on the sauna

slobber no no now you're thinking what's

what's her temp chicks would be coming

to drop some food off and kick rocks no

no my body to week and a half of this

quarantine and the rest I've been

tweeting my [ __ ] toes yeah they'd be

mad horny sending videos and [ __ ] yeah

no way is so bad that listen about this

bitching about so vulgar [ __ ] it's cool

you know like when we was allowed

outside when the weekend hit like you

could kind of feel the vibrations the

weekend yeah we've been inside so long

that when I remember what day it is like

today I woke up

oh it's Friday put them streets will

them insta livestream do it unless it

might get a little private show popping

off all let's talk about [ __ ] doing

private shows and I'm looking we aren't

they you weren't invited it's a private

we're there the holy baby behind us yeah

they're not like I told you they can't

you know how many times you're gonna

watch somebody twerk in a small bathroom

I was about to hit the diem xuong some

that's not money the year went now when

you go into diem with a derivative word

beer if it's not a know what you're

saying alright Bart we know you know the

[ __ ] on the wrong word Bob you go with a

nasty agenda into the DM yes and then

you you're going into deals with in it

with that an attempt to execute

something it ain't your night just going

with the flow you never letting the game

come to you but but it's a pandemic Joe

sometimes you have to go after what you

want for your football ball IND a metric

that I was on live with this morning

that was look no matter what by the way

no one what y'all know about the new

game of never Dearman Oh too bad for you

idea yeah you know I have some other

advice I don't really like what you're

saying

jump in a deal with and another thing yo

you know you talk about shows you have

what your dad like no more you got it

you know I got good to you my man you

could you got two passes the DM

something I'm on cuz I don't mean it

like seven early I just do a podcast

with him I'm really known like that oh

you don't know about him and shorty oh

[ __ ] no I'm joking joking Frank Joe kit

I'm joking no I just think you deserve

better that's all

yeah I just think and how you know what

she deserved is like how do you know

what you just met her you know what you

are if there's ice all Rory opened us up

to the three-point contest I'll just go

ahead and get this out no [ __ ] you know

I miss [ __ ] you

yo obvious that's crazy

you probably nasty and I'm the only one

getting off yeah I miss [ __ ] your

name man of regular text only when I was

at benefit flow you gotta get missing

you gotta you gotta get missing for

eight months and then pop up but in the

DM with that no no no no tax did you say

homie - I ain't gon front

if you was active we waiting on coming

through seeing each other cuz it's a

pandemic if you think that is stop it

single horny girls if you think that

stopping these Jezebel do not promote

that we need to [ __ ] build guys we

shouldn't force men of course that we

have to be responsible yes we have to be

responsible with social distancing but

you don't work on all right so if we're

good so if we're gonna be responsible

with our platform up on it one on Drake

and Sophia body do you want the mature

take or the immature it takes folks I

want the immature take obviously let's

start with immature and then we'll clean

it up we'd be like we would never think

that love a good immature take my leave

Joe had all that time I mean not Joe I

can't believe Drake has time for that

right now

what else oh he's gone to Drake is just

like us but Richard he's bored and in

his crib to his crib is just no but it

is okay see you adding here we go now

where we see richer you [ __ ] huge as

a state know he won't find them all for

your body comment more people put a lot

of stake you even [ __ ] like I would

not but why I'll be putting too much

stake into money and it changing people

now it just makes them more of what they

already are like no that's my money

you're just gonna be more of

when money do you see Rory shooting it

uh Drake on the low he's Cassie he's

carrying it our podcast

now viewers a loser money your money's

just gonna amplify amplify it's not you

guys are creating that I was not talking

about dry burgers you know so about

something about take care really that

good

those doubles are trash you didn't like

the weekend radio everything

that's the worst take care take ever by

the way it's what so the weekend wrote

everything I think Joe started that take

Joe did start no no that's the stupidest

I'm not true cuz I got hip to that one

somebody had to hit me thin I only

thought the weekend wrote the the record

that didn't go into when he's on well

that one but remembered it was another

there was another hard weekend record

that didn't make that album it was on

like the leak that came out before I

have it somewhere that was the only two

records I thought I never thought he had

my boy yeah I would I ruin views don't

start saying I'm the negative says take

here with a classic okay I didn't say

you ruined it I said you know no the we

were the ones interested was I yo the

weekend wrote everything like he wrote

all the raps I was hating if I said that

I was hating but I don't think I said it

I don't think you did either but it's

not saying it's the only horrible take

that I can't believe I've ever said that

I have to stand by is that chance is

going to run rap for the next 15 years

and get dragged to [ __ ] a tit everyone's

laughing at me it's not too late okay

the whole room is laughing at no is this

is when I feel small so fast that did me

as well super duper duper star yeah he

[ __ ] it up no you [ __ ] it up I don't

know at the time it felt good your talk

was from him being super safe and he

being the safe nice rapper Drake was

that now Drake raps about gang banging

on a Tootsie Roll and he's becoming

unsafe well my take was because he was

super safe

Plus

that first album that wasn't his first

out but whatever you want to call that

those two O's in a row acid rap and uh

weren't albums it was one that was

critically acclaimed acid rap critically

acclaimed we got to stop with critical

acclaim

who are these critics and what are they

acclaiming I want to talk to the critics

I need to know your claims before you're

a critic yucky inside when I said

critics way but you know what I'm saying

the one that was Grammy nominated that

they changed the rules yeah I guess

those are the critics yeah Randy boy

yeah yeah if he would have continued at

that pace mmm with that project fam yeah

I think he would had a better shot I

didn't know that the game was changing

its nicely for these new [ __ ] yeah but

no the game has changed these new [ __ ]

need to crack them one time and go and

there's longevity in that if you do it

right uh we're gonna get we're gonna get

to this with a baby that's a great segue

but let's save it no it's gonna blow off

that baby love yeah let's get in the

baby [ __ ] I last episode I thought this

was premature

I skimmed skimmed to them I don't want

to talk about the album was this the

dumbest idea ever even if the album is

great what yes why did the baby yes but

what oh I think releasing a club record

now it's a bad 20 19 you could argue

baby and Megan probably had the best

year it's 1,000% at least the best like

breakup new comers yeah and baby

probably uh started that buzz with with

singles to the masses not to the I know

he had tapes before that we all loved

but to the masses it was a service

singles didn't yeah his personality did

it but the singles did it going into

your next album after that year of a run

I didn't even know that one was coming

out until three days before they

announced the [ __ ] with no single and

you were just banking off two huge

records from last year and all the buzz

you had and now you have a quarantine

mask on and it looks like you're just

chasing the moment

and you put out an album I just want to

say that he has looked like that to me

for a while now he's got a couple

choices I don't blame no no no I'm not

talking about don't blame him I don't

know I am not fully listening out I'm

sure it's good baby makes good music I'm

not here to [ __ ] on his music at all I

enjoy his music

whoever advised him to put this out it

is super premature you're one of the

bigger rappers period right now your

your singles from your last album are

still on Billboard why are you putting

out an album I'm gonna agree with you

but a couple records on there that are

gonna go I'm sure they will I'm sure

they will but that that's not my point

the a legacy no time could be amazing

why is the time to do it now and [ __ ] a

quarantine period why you putting [ __ ]

out no if it wasn't quarantine I just

think most of the songs on there that

would go quote-unquote are like club

records and [ __ ] where people are not

probably gonna be able to enjoy them the

way they're supposed to be enjoyed well

I mean if I should say bard is he is I

don't think he's great but out you know

anything other than he's a fun rapper

like he has fun even with his visuals

you can see it he's not like he moves on

his own like they go into the baby's

world basically like you have to go into

his world to appreciate what he's doing

I will say this so it was it okay go

ahead ro see what the real power of

tick-tock is looks like I heard a lot of

those records like lucious are gonna be

like

tick tock [ __ ] hits and I'm wondering

if that's gonna translate all right

here's the thing with tell when we say

we're gonna see the power of tick-tock I

understand what you're saying but let's

be clear that tick-tock is the new

avenue that the labels are [ __ ]

utilizing and spending money with to

promote because their data shows them

that they should like I almost threw up

in my mouth over the week I saw a Gucci

man post a tick tock song yeah and he

said you know just started a tick-tock

and you know Gucci's that [ __ ] so he

has a million bunch of followers

people's gonna go sign up and do all

that [ __ ] but for me at almost 40 it's

like Gucci you like Drake just did it

and I getting you the biggest rap in the

world because Gucci you know no I don't

think I know I don't have a place to say

that because I'm not actively

participating not only that but it's

right where didn't know how art is

supposed to well that's what I'm saying

I try not to criticize and judge these

people for doing what they got to do

because today if you're if you're trying

to play the game the mainstream game you

have to play that tick-tock game that

game is reserved for them that's why

what Rory is saying about me is this the

dumbest thing ever for the baby to put

out an album no singles we didn't know

nothing

I would I would agree with him but no

because he's now playing that game yeah

right and when you play that game this

is what you do hey I got this amount of

songs that we can put out off the

momentum but the last [ __ ] and I spend

no money in the quarantine and then when

we allowed outside I'll hit him again

because now I'm fast-food microwaving

this [ __ ] mmm like and that's what he's

doing that's what it sounds like that's

what it feels like his visuals are great

always great videos I'm fine

and he's great you know see against him

me aging and my separation of things I

think I'm more of a fan of him than I am

of his music but even that's not fair

because guess what this money machine

[ __ ] is not making songs for 40 year

old ass Joe he's nice so I think you

guys bring up amazing points to what I

was saying I'm not the tick-tock

audience at all talk get me to the boss

to sing about you boss I'm not that guy

so like that's hot eyelet song that is

that everyone does the [ __ ] with the

dance in the line girl give me something

I would like to know what those numbers

comeback was streaming on it for him

because I don't even know that I'm a

huge ty dolla fan I don't even own the

name of that song something new okay

is it on it didn't take off like I just

want to know is it ready for this is it

resonating with sales Drake is drink so

I'm not comparing him in this category

but like with the Meg nasty [ __ ] how is

that doing with return on investment as

well just because it's really popular

with the danceOn an app is that coming

back on streams so that's what I'm

saying with the baby with the baby [ __ ]

no the baby the baby I did read that

more yeah 25 million streams and

crowding the first yeah perfect on

Spotify only

yeah we knew that

well I did yeah right yeah it's gonna be

interesting to see though I'm curious

how I talk or get what you guys are

talking about with as far as just

putting the [ __ ] out to compete with

what's trending now ours thought it was

really odd coming off that and I enjoyed

that album this quickly with no single

was completely different than you roll

out that was so successful Park small

and Rory

y'all are musicians y'all can't dance

y'all Anu you're trying to get a buzz

you hate looking at yourself you don't

put the flip camera on your phone like

and you have to get ascribing me and a

it parks and I'm describing me either

and I'm describe I hated promotion yeah

and I still see a few artists today that

just hate promotion I know a lot of us

like that but y'all have to get some

buzz or get something popping what route

are you taking your career are y'all

gonna attempt to get something popping

on tik top cream I'm not saying are

y'all gonna they all got to pay me for

that

Tik Tok no they would have to pay me

foot to tend to figure out what to do

with their artists when they can't no

time talk about you a few artists are

you saying you're not answering it no I

don't think we should answer that on the

air let them figure it out

I'm only asking if you would go the

tic-tock route not how you would do II

know there's other routes yeah there's

other roads me no I wouldn't do it I

won't do it you I think the most

important thing for an artist to always

do no matter what because the author

will go out of style and they never will

get old as you have to maintain you you

have to maintain a lot of who you really

are which you naturally would do

wouldn't do yeah yeah if you do

something just for the moment you're

gonna look back five not even five three

years from now be like what the [ __ ] was

I doing

you know I mean like it's just you don't

so as an artist you don't ever want to

lose your integrity or you know try to

try to put too much of your integrity

online you do have to do things out and

out of the box

and away from who you are sometimes but

you can't go all the way left and just

start making music for a social media

app like I don't I don't think you can

jeopardize your artistry your integrity

said that extent I think sometimes you

just make a dope [ __ ] record and the

people will do that anyway but I don't

think you have to aim for that it's like

kind of like a conversation about when

rappers used to make a club record like

they would aim for a club sound and it's

like jesus walks played in the club like

I don't think Kanye ever intended for

that to happen like he just made a dope

[ __ ] record and people was like this

[ __ ] is amazing and they played it

wherever they were yeah I mean but those

are always the best there's a larger

Club that it's just universe no matter

what yeah if I may be as an artist

that's what I would aim for I would

always do that let me just make dopamine

people gonna find dope music they're

gonna they gonna spread it they're gonna

send it to each other they're gonna do

whatever they want with it if it's dope

you don't have to always say oh I need a

tic toc regular I need a club record or

I need a street record you just have to

make music that's true to you as much as

possible and that just sounds good and

that feel good but there are seems to

make [ __ ] that makes people move whether

it's attempting to make people move on

tick tock or make people move in a club

or whatever y'all with yet and I was

about to say that y'all y'all y'all

would try it one time in your careers

you maybe not the tick tock route not I

think what y'all would try the shot at

commercial whatever some mainstream says

- maybe just once but everybody tries it

once yeah yeah I think artists who's

ever doing the dance

tick tock [ __ ] now I probably would have

pretended to be a thug in 1999 like

artists tend to just go with the trend

and what's poppin you know the good ones

kind of weed themselves out but yeah I

think the artist that's doing the dance

on the app would have pretended to be a

thug when being a thug was cool in

hip-hop yeah we got back in a serious

talk we didn't really get into Drake

kill myself or you buddy artists and we

will

[Laughter]

yeah all I want to know is do [ __ ]

know the [ __ ] violence yeah yeah

alright oh then there's nothing else

that needs to be said then um we back we

back is more back more than I back here

right oh well there is mall

um listen before we go any further I

would like to I'd like to issue a few

public apologies oh we're back recording

yeah yeah I would like to issue a few

public apologies my first one is to

California love I'm head - gunshot man

you were mistaken I wasn't mistaken

because I still I still I still agree

with what I said I'm going Benjamins

over California law oh no no we all

agreed but the ways to say that when you

dismissed it yeah that was disrespectful

it was and I'm sorry I'm sorry too dr.

Dre Tupac California love California

love love sorry to love yo Marlon gonna

know how to act when I still don't know

I still love this [ __ ] comes out that's

coming the ass ask for B packs I'm

always copping that if he was in my live

at 8:30 in the morning he's copping mush

my TV I was because I was I was directed

a three-song 60 minutes on bridge three

songs it's an LP that's not an EP listen

man that's a full album this change in

the game or Joe Budden got to do is come

back and change it again yeah we could

change the beat ten times on one song

it's true

listen so I apologize to California love

my bed I was dismissive I was wrong

sometimes I speaking fat eclis and be

wrong loud and wrong it's fun it makes

for somebody who makes for a good

podcast but no no you know what happened

I was on white hip hop heads wasn't it

no I was always that Kyle's straighten

him out by the way I don't need to cut

you walk always the Kyle's it's all I

found myself becoming the white hip-hop

fan during the pray for Paris outro when

dude started tapped I was like oh my god

on the dope oh I found myself becoming

the white hip-hop hit I was like oh this

is what these guys in the front row of

the Grizelda shows feel every day oh hey

you know he's tat like but he's tap

dancing but his cuz of the dope

hey that's when he found herself

becoming a white hip puffin not when he

had to dip that wallet chain or I bought

it for money

hey now when he wrapped a paper towel

around his head yeah we out here I'm not

sweating yeah no sweat your fabric is

try to make cool the paper towel absorb

no we don't kill them enough but no we

were white we had the bounty double

joints now you want to come to our Park

as would be mature [ __ ] you hold paper

towel wrapped around years ago hey maybe

they let Joe live nothing down from 20

years ago sounds a factor legend there's

some stuff down yeah what if matters

case metalloid what do we let him live

yo my Vietnam that a lot not yeah not a

lot at all my second apology is to Lloyd

Banks man no Lloyd Banks an apology man

I love you Lloyd I will call you right

now but I don't know how to working on

this [ __ ] I was a little dismissive -

Lloyd - man when we was talking about

the one-hit wonder battle not him but

then that escalated to our and mixtape

mixtape battle I appreciated your

confidence she was buggin I'll kill

banks and fab no I won't I won't

I don't know why you said that I mean

six banks Africana when you say it when

you say I say mixtapes I don't I think I

said it I wasn't counting that me either

and when you count those as mixtapes

then and now I doubt that's a heart

that's a hard one you can't say that if

fab labs

studio album releases like nobody's a

mixtape King which is why I say he's a

mixtape king before solty that's I mean

the young og project to me is like oh

please I'll smack you talked about

before that - I'm talk about me Ben

Elena's at honno-ji project what's the

album what a mixtape I'm smacking him

around if he studio that's album Def Jam

how does album tape but listen now when

it comes Roy banks when it comes in it

when it comes to lloyd banks though what

you doing with victory freestyle come

Def Jam we never plan a Def Jam we never

got back to them 30 [ __ ] y'all sign

for that month they made our album that

didn't I know we all talked about it but

I remember back to Lloyd Banks now mall

and ROI cuz rory's g-unit and I was

telling you you were bugging when we're

having this conversation about

California love and Lloyd Banks and my

buggy arrived so I think you own one I

think you own me and my buggin if banks

can't play g-unit stuff yes you're

buggin no I think I got him if you can't

play G and stuff but that's not allowed

of course it's not oh of course you can

play g-unit stuff I would allow you to

play slaughterhouse stuff I wasn't in a

crew you were in slaughter literally you

were your whole second half of your

career was a clue ran for man years

blown out [ __ ] end it in but you guys

know album that's how more news one day

it's not more projects we know it Judi

radio is who Kizuna has more mixtapes

than slaughterhouse has anything yeah

yeah but official joints and if

slaughterhouse gets two more joints in

and I'm back and talking about [ __ ] I'm

back we win we win yeah don't and I love

y'all I don't know if we wouldn't gives

bang I got to walk back and say you

don't cuz banks because banks mixtape

career is like from me and I might this

might be my New York bias it's different

the whole more money in the bank series

I don't know if you [ __ ] with I think

I could do I think we could do a Lloyd

Banks Joe Budden mixtape battle

here's the thing though and it's not

because I know it's a weird it's weird

because a lot of your dope mixtape [ __ ]

is sad it Bo [ __ ] and I'm not saying that

to spite you cuz I love I love sad means

I think I can I love you're saying I can

went to 20 without SAS you your clue era

yeah but I think banks is killing you if

you bring up your clue sheet and I know

not guys triangle often [ __ ] I don't

feel like that he was getting busy and

sure enough some poison I'm wrong wrong

banks is a different animal

well what if we're talking about but

take it away Joe I had enough we're down

now pastor do you think I got a window

muffin tray is this gonna work I don't

know hold up what was your what was your

take calling banks now by doesn't need

to know if this works cuz what they'll

try it

we've never called anybody here let's

see phone

alright I'm that it says audio it works

I know I'm because worried disrespecting

me banks is with his child chilling Joe

detected GarageBand see if that's

showing up should be it's on the cord

that I had parks ok yeah it should be

yep yeah answer the phone Sammy's corn

sitting with his child no he's scared of

me no he's not thanks doesn't even

answer for call has been forwarded to an

automated way banks plays the victory

freestyle and it's a point that's what I

said what are you doing of that oh I'm

playing dumb how you you're losing that

round I love dome al but you losing that

round ok that's a point yes it saved um

oh yes save that to win yo you know that

will be my strategy if I were ever in

one of these vs. thing I don't

understand why these producers oh yeah I

would watch the record yeah if you play

triumph I play in the worst record you

ever heard and that's the point for you

Jay long approach to battle the same way

he approach speed won't be the same

thing now he played a victory freestyle

playing Pomodoro but it makes it for the

audience

no you know what we joking around right

now but I've been trying to think like

who could do like the odd like a mixtape

battle like I was joking the one-hit

wonder [ __ ] but like who could like Jim

in French was on the other day I was

like like they could go at it they could

go at it they have enough songs where

they could do it since I'm never gonna

get Jim vs. cam no that's not happening

that's that would be great that's what I

want though that was great Jim wins

sorry I know that nobody wants to do

that no I want 20 records if they went

to 10 no I'm saying 20 I belong count

came out on I'm not going to 20 see I

don't want to I don't want people to be

delusional

everybody shouldn't go to 20 no of

course not like this 20 [ __ ] in reserve

you didn't want 20 from trippy red no

battle me would 5 3 really if I'm trying

to be extra strong now 20 is reserved

for people but like Jim and cam I would

love to see a 10 rounds that would be

all right that changes things if you're

doing 10 rounds the Dipset songs cancel

each other out we both on these shifts

you gonna play something I'm gonna play

something you know where I stand how I

feel about well why don't you tell the

public place ok I'm not counting came

out of that I'm not yes you are no one

off the mic you are off the mic you are

off the mic you have so yeah no no no I

prefer Jimi's music I've said that on

this mic before oh maybe I'm confusing

you one more I'm not counting came out

though oh I always said no no I agree

you're the person that says that you're

the person to say we've all said that

Jim has more no more is gone out and

said Jim has more hits than camp oh he's

okay

is that true no it's not true

sorry sorry mice it's a natural you

don't think Jim has more hitch thinking

no I don't I I may like Jimmy's uh dis

ography time out time out time out let's

go through let's do battle right now

what our cams hits horse and carriage

hema No hey zip set record no it's not

it seems that song come home with me

alright hey MA uh down and out kill the

king Oh oh boy oh boy

Killa cam no you losing me now Killa cam

is not h1 is killer

this is not a hit record well I mean a

hit to us Samir this is a

I wouldn't call it a hit I hate to us

that's uh I hate to uh talk about us

guys yeah okay yeah but don't do us cuz

Jim has made us true do the hits that's

three no she's doing such you just name

it hard battle records that's what we're

doing no I'm we're doing hard fat no but

mall statement was two hits and that's

what we're our guys just one of the hits

cam who's gonna argue this someone

sucking it not for that's for now can we

get to forward Jim come on Jim is gonna

play balling certified gangsters Kim has

more Houston Jim yeah I don't what the

[ __ ] y'all talking about this is not a

hit by the way this is not a hit at all

and a gym verse can battle this is it

it's what we're talking about hits Jim

has records that he could play that's

like of no suit of course but it did not

hit I'm only two my head and I agree

with Joe I think yellow I think him has

a I think Kim might have Jim there if

we're sexual like billboard records with

yet machines and money behind me he has

more if I talking of course it because

you know I love Ginny's can was always

does can to play what a is the world to

you and true Jim wasn't rapping then

like if Jim play baby girl I'm a good

hype he might not win against the cam

record but baby girl if Jim plays

somewhere in Miami I'm getting hype but

something might have way say the same

thing that's not it okay I'm naming the

end pin pack records but we often it we

often the change right now um listen

damn I want bangs to call bound like how

Rory was talking to me give me the score

in me versus banks cuz I don't like that

how many records we doing 1515

with what hits no no no I would never

prove a look I wouldn't play the hit

game when oh why is me

alright then made an odd question cuz I

know your answer Berg is hit maker no

Joe does public opinion drive any of

this

as far as notoriety with these with

these records well yes and then Joe is

loose unfortunately would have to so

okay then yeah I have banks beating you

significantly yeah I have to hear all

these mixtape freestyles that you did

you what do you have above we're going

to 10th yeah here's the thing where he

has me all the way you walk down I have

you could I have your catalogue [ __ ]

up yes I don't think I lose to Lloyd

Banks by five I do know I have to see it

I have to see it but it's kind of not

fair

cuz he had a worry because machine yeah

like it's not fair I'm shooting you some

bail here it's not fair I know I came to

that on my own it's not because I'm

Fionan

yeah like dog for exam

I think they're gonna be a lot closer

than uh Rory much yeah I don't like ten

five like I came in here to apologize to

banks and then Rory [ __ ] kicked me in

my face like it's not fair but it's not

fair if I can throw you if I can throw

this on against you the mirror that's

cheating see like that's what I'm saying

it's not fair that's cheating that is

cheating though and that's why I say

yeah banks wins this fair but if it's

just banks I'm smoking his boots this is

just banking a oh it's a point against

you know you buggin he loses he loses he

loses this alright like the next

[Music]

[Laughter]

making me man now Rory's making me mad

but Joe you got to remove you got to

step away from you for a second as long

as they may be

I'm this is your favorite narcissistic

host of course he can't do that yeah you

got a step away from you just for a

little bit I understand with Rory Sam

but I also understand what Joe is saying