Fleeing The Scene

little shout-out Kanye gave us cap with step let's see what today's it whatever

more will become offense today Joe no to play our star listen I heard about the start trying to

let us play with no fans in the seats man we're gonna need some warmups that's a fact I'm trying to get my reps in man

you're right about that holy [ __ ] [Laughter]

microphone check one two what is this the jbp boys back to business what

episode is this 343 to 342 welcome to episode three 42 of the Joe Budden

podcast I am him Joe Budden here with a few of my nearest and dearest Rory is sitting across from me welcome

to the thirty club Rory happy birthday happy birthday we're gonna get back to that in a second we got mall at home in

front of the one of one of one Binney to put your art piece through that's our

tech drew right there that's nothing shout out to our tech drew I'm just talking [ __ ] what up ah we got parks over there in frame but out of frame

save on is here Erikson is here and Alex the great I think is here though I haven't heard his voice in a few weeks

yeah is it no hey Alex here we go how's everybody doing man y'all good yeah good

yeah all right yeah Rory tell us about being thirty uh it's it's not much

different I was fake joking about the club not being open to get into the thirty club I don't know if I can really

experience thirty just in my living room in a day no that's what thirties is me

alright this is a start yes I entered the club 30 all right so I've been in the club for three four months now

Anouar long has she been going I see you good no wait get Erica oh I thought she

it was longer than that no I said it could be the lighting oh um I thought you was Wolfen any

yeah my well white people look okay whooping yeah whoa well actually more

Rory and I were just talking about that off air it's one of the things I realized about myself during this

quarantine the amount of hours that I've invested in getting a haircut every week

it's just it's nice it's kind of over it's just not that important I don't care I don't care that's not when the

new normal for me is gonna be this look just look right here if I see a barber maybe see a barber maybe once a month

might have but all that rushing out to listen sometimes when the barber wouldn't take my appointment

it'll I'll have out it'll ruin my mood for the day no I like it shouldn't have that type of control over me I'm off

that now I'm done with that I was definitely a once-a-week haircut guy and if I couldn't get an appointment I would

sit in that barber shop for six [ __ ] hours all day and waste a day to get a haircut and now I used to like really I

really used to love getting air cuts every week now look in the mirror I really don't give a [ __ ] okay yeah I

don't hit ya no no I've been keeping my beard down cuz I [ __ ] growing towards my watch that is the barbershop is like

whatever now once you have that the women just still like you anyway like

none of this [ __ ] really matters hey listen oh it's never that serious like you love you and you realize the girls

love you is way high man yeah I'm doing all this for nothing and we and when you looking at your account and it's it's

safe you know and when you have some fun ease when you get some good money off your more has to stop there we have we

have to help more help me he's not completely wrong though yes no he's not

I know what I'm talking about a guy starts to not give a [ __ ] like that doesn't matter like when you young and

you broke two all you could do was get flying get a haircut once you have money you don't give a [ __ ] about a haircut like the [ __ ] is a haircut nice belt

so you don't care how you dress you don't care if you are on your shirt you don't care about none of that [ __ ] no more I got an account I got a house and I got

a whip what's up how much money do I do does one need to like Teeter that that

Club uh I think if you have at least three the granny your savings you don't give a

[ __ ] what I hear couldn't enough to cover your bills for at least six months yeah yeah you don't care about you don't

care about a haircut no more [ __ ] like that doesn't matter cuz it's like what does it matter I got a nice house I got

a nice car smell good like what the [ __ ] is a haircut [ __ ] I don't know 50

getting it done I might need to get a haircut savings like saying I know yeah

I know Jim but I say okay about a haircut anymore what the [ __ ] is a haircut what if you had the perception

of money cuz that still gets it done that's why I don't disagree with more cuz just having the perception of having

money and renting things you still appear listen we live only care by haircuts because we just want to look

good for him it we ain't in haircuts foot whoa women can get off the line that they do things for them I can get

that off too I like when I get a haircut I like so I like how I look and I would make that with the [ __ ] we're gonna

keep drilling me 30 you get when you get your nails done is it for you and them

don't know I like to see myself in a reflection when I count my money that's that's justice that's for you so I can't

count my money with a shape up no you can't see a shape up you won't be like

you want somebody else be like Oh Rory I see okay I'll see you at the fresh large you don't want me to be like okay I'm

white with red hair no one has ever came up to me and said yo I see you with the fresh line complimented your beard

before they I get beard compliment that's that's all this about it's for

women we know we don't care about what our homeboy thinks about how our beard looks today don't [ __ ] about that maybe I want some encouragement for my

friend's mom we a jacking that we want to make sure that when we step out girls is like okay like I see you got the big

you know babe but a glossy and alright that's what you care about you don't care about the fellas is thinking I don't care if I come to the block and

homies like yo your beard is hitting [ __ ] about what y'all think nah men

needs to support men more nah [ __ ] that not not how not my physical no no I've

seen you go through the block and your [ __ ] have been like yell something is different about you today no cut it out

we're doing that is that Jo that's your same nail tech we did I'm we're not

doing we complimented your braids when you came into parks with them now but I definitely put homeys on you know when

we appreciate a man but Jo Jo Jo get a mannequin appreciate no no I want to thank everyone in the zoo yeah when we

appreciate that your inception y'all have sent my sick mind down a rabbit hole and I blacked out for at least

three minutes of that conversation okay what you think about man this is where I've wished it y'all had kids but I

think mall said some abouts one of y'all says some about savings yeah and then I

blacked out and started laughing at the idea of savings because it's like what the [ __ ] is savings we're gonna die oh

you're taking this conversation elsewhere no but then because when you have kids is you think about [ __ ] like

that and you're like alright now I'm gonna do all this work and save up this money to divvy it up to my kids yeah but

then you'll have some out but then you'll not see but this is where I want to advance the talk okay let's see what

y'all don't have kids so it's only gonna make me look like a city but wouldn't you think about it like can't you see

how your kids is gonna [ __ ] up your money when you go online nah let me

leave Lex a little more because he might not like scratch on a rat he got [ __ ] it's right here in Miami soon a bucket

tray going to my head and you right in the Cleveland it's with my like the

whole wow I don't know it's of course you could teach your kids but you still not like can you do that you can't teach

somebody how to have money absolutely you can we don't know how tell me what

do you talk about well it's in one of the tougher things to teach what do you meet you you have to it the it's the difference

between any culture that's not normal for us to do in our culture we're not taught that sadly but other you look at

other kids like from you know wealthier families they're taught the family

business from young they're taught how to you know work for the company and build and they go to school to have to

study something as soon as they really leave school now they work for family business like culturally when we get something we so happy that we

finally got we're usually the first of our family to either graduate college or become a millionaire or be on TV or you

know I'm saying so we so busy living in that moment ourselves we're not thinking about teaching our family how to build

this and how to sustain this for generations to come and that's the issue so now when you

golf a big pass if you haven't taught your kids how to you know moving if you like Trey he wants to be an artist teach

them about the business teach them about the industry things to look out for if you don't do that then in some ways you failed as a parent because you went do that and you an

artist and now your kid wants to do it but then they don't know how to maneuver in that space that's that's failed that's a failure to me like talking

about kids here look at the three [ __ ] deductive nah in there no because a lot

of times more and I don't want I'm not starting this way but a lot of times we learn or we learn our parenting style by

what we didn't receive or what we didn't get so you know let's just roll with

your failure as a parent this is if your kids Soundcloud don't give popping no no

I get that let me say that too while I'm in a good mood for you [ __ ] with your pump it up

jokes no we always say the fact we

always say that no oh we always say no we say sometimes don't have a hit at all

we say that with the pump at all that's the fact doing we ain't gonna discredit

that at all that's the absolute fact for sure but I'm just saying the thing is it would be considered a failure like for

example if you play an NBA and your sons want to play ball say they don't make it that don't mean that they can't be

successful in business though like Trey wants to be a rapping he must be artist if he's not successful artist that'll mean he can't be successful in

the music business you know I'm saying and that's just the difference sometimes we do either it's not handing down the

actual talent it's like yo just handed down to knowledge like this to what to look out for alright listen that's trying to get educated right now I'm here to be soon

no I'm not education just you know just but sometimes we got to drop jewels in the midst of the funny [ __ ] that's all I agree with that alright quick question

for you before we start what's up growing up did you think that Charles from Charles in Charge was gay no and I

also didn't think that uh Jax rumor Frankie was I think that's the dusted

the the tone of the show was that he was gay on the show he was let's be the gay bestie Jack Tripper oh no no no Jack

Tripper uh Charles oh no I don't know if he was supposed to be yeah I think Jack

Tripper was I think he was supposed to be good over Stimpy stronger yeah what uh what took you there we're just for

that thought I just want to get off a more [ __ ] sad talk okay oh that's

great you find a girl you can get sad with oh that's the best all right come on let's talk about something Oh shout

out to our Spotify listenership shout out to our YouTube viewer ship channel shout out to our first and last time

listeners shout out to all the essential workers out there you okay

excuse me and I didn't indigestion a little bit you're fine shout out to everybody rockin with us anybody out there practicing social distancing

staying safe out there alright gentlemen where would you guys like to begin today lots to get to we were on the money a

corny conversation I don't think we finished the hope because it's triggering from all the corny guy that

has money that why he reaps the benefits of his money because you be killing sense you be you be killing them dudes

and the girl I don't be killing up see this is one thing I realized Joe I'm I'm handicapped and when I say that meaning

like now it's the world is more corny than it is cool right so I'm always it's

the world it's more it's more corny [ __ ] than us [ __ ] no honestly there's more

there's more corn there's more corny [ __ ] than it is cool [ __ ] all right so then I'll ask you this wouldn't that make you corny in summarise yeah and

some are like like Joe said well not and one is songs when you know anything real really you'd only think fake oh so you

have heard someone music guys so so

that's I understand that so which is why a lot of the times I don't speak I really do honestly if y'all understood

how much [ __ ] I actually don't even I see and I notice and observe that I don't speak on y'all be surprised because I know that no matter what I say

and how I voicing I'm gonna be looked at in a certain way oh he hated that's always the go-to when you don't agree

with something it's like we got to find something else cuz it's not hating if I observe somebody doing something and I'm

like that's corny I'm not hating I don't want to do that I think it's corny when I want to do that and I can't do that

yeah that's one is corny but I guess to that point the corny dudes that are

reaping the benefits of their corniness and money and things of that nature isn't that something you wouldn't want

anyways you wouldn't want the chick that likes the corny dude that has the money so what do you miss know is it's not

it's not that I'm when I say [ __ ] is corny meaning like if for example women

know when guys are corny but because they have money they'll sit there in their laughs and now entertained it and they'll stroke his ego and make him feel

like he's the corney's do with the biggest dick in the world I make some

corny no she has an objective I can't however she gots to get to her

goal and whatever she has to do I'm not judging it right what I'm saying is yes you are no no what I'm saying is I can't

be considered a hater if I observe what's going on and I recognize that that's what's happening like you don't

really like him you don't really think he's funny but he has money I get it I understand it I can't let mall talk all

this [ __ ] male chauvinistic [ __ ] is no that's no different than that's no different than women saying the same

thing about the men who only laugh at [ __ ] because they're trying to hit who only compliment them because they're

trying to hit who sit through some boring [ __ ] because they so what is the difference I hate double

standards ask any equal playing field know this but this is you know how to equal playing field I really do Phil

yeah it's nice they send me up a wall I will fight about absolutely nothing in the relationship if the double standard

exists but no it can't be that one standard all the time though and as a man that's really the only thing you can

argue about in your relationship is a double standard there's nothing else you could really fight for yeah double

standards are trash for women in the world but trash for men in relationships yeah like and then we lose when it's

double standards in relationships but women lose in the world with double standards I just finished everyone a little double

standard double standard not a fight but a Tift attention alone Leah settled

sometimes you got to finally find the Tift little squabble I agree

girl post a picture home girl in the comments ooh you a snack here come the girl take

a bite take a bite of me but see Jonas

is you being a head

you know you gotta have shits up talking about but you just reached it for are you one that's reaching for art hey

maybe I want to tell Bridget to come take a bike I am the worst flirter take

okay worse than me yeah come take up by

and nobody responds to flirting worse than me but I hate it I'm glad you're interested or friends is that so you

start talking like you from the thirteenth century what is die you said that's polish oh

you really think so do you [Laughter]

that's all it's [ __ ] hilarious room that's what Joe turn into you try to

sound educated and respond yo I'm telling you for the year to to 20 I mean

2020 2021 I'm firing back at you man I'll be timely trying to protect you but I'm a fire back fire but no I know I

know who you become too mr. [ __ ] funny man I've always been the fall honey you

just turn it's funny I don't do that and we do have some music [ __ ] to get to but

don't do that more they've always been the money go out in the room I'm always always wall is always the coolest dude

in the room always I've been in rooms with them no no no no it's awesome

that's who you that's maybe who you are at your core but I'm saying is that makes it dreadfully obvious when you

start getting in yeah hey so I white guy black guy in a Chinese guy we might

it's not like don't make a scene with the white guy don't do that because you

see jokes how to make it settle as soon as I see some chicks I just I just stand up and like this like whoa you made mold

that you working hard or hardly working guys oh my god Joe is a [ __ ] liar yeah do not do that

alright never heard this one just try to

make me sound like a mud model do that cuz [ __ ] know you turn into extra

funny man when they're women's when the chickadees are around no but see that's that's that's what homies do like and I

gotta get deeper into my plus one we make them cry balance of friendship yeah

that's just the difference like you get more into the emotional [ __ ] I get more to the less just everybody come to have

a good time laugh and [ __ ] like that's just my part yeah man I live with this [ __ ] for three years and so just in the

joke my hot summer Saturday night on the

balconies guys just regular cat will you shut a whole special all right come on

woody woody I want to start with uh I wanted to come in here and and give Tory Lanez

all of it all of the props in the universe and then that led to I have to

go back to Rory and say I don't and I'm not using this as a moment for to tear

down black men but I'm not leave me out of it I'm not having this the [ __ ] don't

put my name and I'm not having a Tori versus Bryson debate ever again it's over now to me okay and it should be to

you too okay Joe Seinfeld my bet um but

I think that what Tori has is and has been doing he has just really been

putting on a clinic like you know you ever just watch a show and the [ __ ]

actors are so amazing that it's just like a clinic like I feel like that is what Tori has been doing this

entire time like from the first quarantine radio but it was 2,000 people

up into everything that he is executed to now yeah he's I think he's probably

adapted to to the times better than any artist I've seen in 2020 with everything

that he's been doing outside of his his personality with the music now with the YouTube thing doing the actual concert

tour [ __ ] that he's partnered with YouTube's own I can't think of an artist

that's that's done better in this this dump he's on I like I like what I'm seeing

from Tori I think this is the most it's weird that in the town like this is the

most personal we've seen Tori like I told one of my homeboys on you know I've

been I've been a fan of Tori's for years I like this music but I told my friends I still don't know who Tori is though as

a person it's the artists like I still don't know his story I still don't like so this to me is the most personal and

the most I've been able to gauge him as a person like this is this is the most

time we've had to really see him in a more personal light like I think before

it was like just music and you know him performing he gives a lot of energy and his live shows so we had that from him

but other than that it was like here's this kid that just popped up and put out a dope-ass mixtape but you still didn't

know his story you know I'm saying and I think that now we're starting to get a little more of the the personal Tori

like where we're getting more of his personality and I think that's a good thing I think he's capitalized off for

that which is but you're super dope to see in this nothing but congrats to him because that's a he's making a big big

play right now yes it's a definitely a rare occasion where he can do the

personality quarantine radio [ __ ] and then also have hit records to back it up

to then get a bag to live perform at the same time it's a really difficult two

things to possess great were well known I'd have much there but I is it's just a

really interesting point to show the type of artist he is that he able to get bags in both of these in an

active time where his music is relevant and his personality is relevant I want to address what mall just said about him

showcasing more of his personality now personally I'm gonna attribute a lot of

that to him being independent now I got to tell you more when I spoke to him one

to pull up mmm it was right before the release of the chicks tape mmm and off

mic he didn't sound like the happiest of campers he sounded like somebody that

was dealing with whatever troubles he was dealing with it the label that he really didn't want to get too much into he just knew that he was in for quite a

fight coming up mmm and he spoke to me about some of that and confidence and I

didn't want to I don't he didn't sound defeated at all he just sounded like he sounded like I have to suppress myself

because what I'm about to the fight I'm about to have for me on a much smaller

level when I wanted to leave Def Jam and then I decided to put out new music too

it got so hot that Def Jam wouldn't release me so it's like a line that you

have to walk when you want to be released and somehow he worked it out and he is released he's free um his

people hit me they said no this is real all the way he's 100% independent owns publishing masters lattes catalog kudos

but how many artists have gotten at it and I'm not gonna say this would be the peak of his career but this I think is

the highest moment he's been in his career yeah another rare occasion for an artist to have that type of power and

leverage at that time yeah I wanted to highlight a few things for cuz I don't

want some of the listeners out there to feel like we're talking about things on this grandiose scale because when I say

Tori is putting on a clinic I'm saying that you don't have to be the biggest Tory Lanez fan as a creator to be able

to pull something from what he is doing and I just wrote a few things down because I just think it's genius how

he's just doing all this no and the first thing I wrote down was proof-of-concept Tory Lanez at this

point in his career who probably feels like he don't have to show proof of concept to anybody and let me tell the

audience that when people are asking for proof of concept if you actually believe

in it and believe that you can prove the concept then why not just do the concept I think you to find that on the

terminology for those about no proof concept proof of concept is you go to

somebody with an idea but they want to know like on Shark Tank that's what proof of concept is you go

to Shark Tank wouldn't idea and they start asking you a bunch of questions to see how you know that this thing works

where's the proof that your concept was actually it is actually what you say it

is alright and how has he shown that because through the quarantine radio

thing yes yeah I think he's been able to show that his audience will follow him well then look yeah now this is what I

mean parks Tory Lanez has been right in front of our face he's been here he's

not a new act it's the same way people say here's a great example boy I'm spilling the beans I got some

good [ __ ] coming to y'all when we get to college oh now you talk when we get when we get to July in August I'm gonna keep

Gabby Deveaux we gonna run the same play

lady stop it you know what it's like this is my example Vince staples everybody wants everybody when we look

at Vince staples no matter what you think about his music you kind of know what he would be like as a media entity

right different brain different type of brain yeah none is happening now that's

not because people have not approached Vince staples about something mm-hmm but these tone-deaf [ __ ] can't seem to

figure out what to do with Vince staples yeah how would it work that's like

somebody going to Spotify before we get there and saying hey I got a retired rapper and there's two homeboys and

they're gonna go talk some [ __ ] no it's not no no no we don't we had to do it

for four you know I'm not doing that so back Lan's tory lanez has been here in front of your faces he's been successful he's

been singing he's been doing interviews he's showed glimpses of personality nobody thought to come and say yo this

is what we're doing he did it and when he did it he only had and this is proof

of concept from the start to to where he ended he only had about 1500 2500 people

in there at first it wasn't so many sound effects the hype man wasn't so

active right it was just him doing some part of me doing some [ __ ] cuz he was

bored and it worked and he stayed doing it and then by that next week he had

however many people it was a lot of people the same way when I first clicked on d-nice it was 200 people and in the

end of the week there was 10,000 then it was 150,000 hipster that makes me a

hipster yeah cuz she was there with 200 but back to tory lanez so proof of

concept yes yeah that's important a massing audience here he did that on his

own improve on concept I think that's where a lot of our genius comes from and

a lot the audience part all the abilities jump in with the ability to grab an audience that may not be from

your core yes a lot of people are now fans of Tory Lanez not because of his music nor particularly give a single

[ __ ] about his music but he may make more money elsewhere because of it the same way people say you can't become a

millionaire without more than one income stream it's the same way with audiences you can't have the same audience come

back for the same exact product you need to find something else to bring in if you want to bring in a mass audience

it's just it's math at the end of the day and you only have so many people like your museum as this audience that

may not necessarily be all the hypest about his music without the click baton

yeah clout chasin you know we always ask that on this podcast like how do you get the

attention without like he did it we've got to recognize when people do it

improved on concept great which I want to get to another point after to that cloud chase and clickbait thing go ahead

afternoon I wouldn't get too we said I said a mass audience then I also wrote here growing audience which

is two different things requires two totally different sets of skill yeah we

did them both oh and then make them loyal yeah if you pay attention to what

this kid has been doing you master class and now the world because because listen

no I'm not making very many people will pay for people pay for real classes that

don't even give those first five you just get these you know you're smoking this [ __ ] and I'm like I'm watching them

and I'm like yo I gotta be honest I don't know if people recognize all the different things he's doing at once they

blocked him he got the head of Instagram to bring him back and before that he started a whole new page they got

200,000 followers like in an hour like people we were waiting for this mmm but

this doesn't surprise me with Tori only because if you've ever seen him live you understand that he's an entertainer yeah

and you understand that that was his passion like his passion is being in front of an audience and you know

commanding them to pay attention swarming and he's very energetic he's high-energy so this this doesn't his

success in this doesn't surprise me because he isn't entertaining and he's gonna find a way to fill that void if he

feels like people are looking to be entertained and and not only that I think I think you know Tori had he moved

through the industry with a chip on his shoulder one of the things I think he felt like you know and I think he felt like he needed to prove himself I think

he felt like people weren't paying him as much attention as he felt his talent required so I think when you have those

things and you know your passionate passion is the main thing you're passionate about something I think

people like to see passion because sometimes you know I think that the people that have the biggest audiences

are the passionate ones because people sometime are trying to find their passion and I think in looking at

passionate people sometimes people find what they're passionate about that's true so to me you know this thing but

Tori isn't surprising like because he is a passionate high-energy guy so this is right on brand for him and again man I

you know I salute him assume this is this is a really big really big thing and I think this is a turning point for uh we all

salute him but he definitely gonna get these jokes after this list is done oh

yeah but uh kind of back to the clickbait thing and which I've also noticed I know with verses of course

we're talking about legends and it's not fair to compare anyone to legends but

I've noticed in this pandemic to your point with the clickbait thing and just doing things for in the moment how

unvalued well that type of [ __ ] is as far as chasing the sound of whatever's

going on with music replay value has become so much more important during a

pandemic and I attribute that to also your antics on the Internet like it's

only something that's gonna happen for one [ __ ] second then we're moving on we've noticed when people are locked in their [ __ ] houses they're going back

to what they want as replay value of what they care about yeah and it's not you can tell me you have 200 million

listens on this specific song on YouTube it means nothing in the larger scheme of

things once that moment is passed 200 million people will watch something for

you get that in 1 day 2 days because the value of those streams it's it's not

gonna mean much like to the value of for example Tori not doing this clickbait

based and forced to do some cessation alized [ __ ] to get people to come somewhere it doesn't hold any value that

say a YouTube will want to take all right well we know you have this personality and we know you have some music let's do a concert series that

doesn't come with that type of [ __ ] hmm and when you're chasing a sound with music don't expect people to [ __ ]

listen to your music when it matters you're just chasing a moment well in a

pandemic has just shown me how much moments don't matter that that led leads

to my very next thing that I have written down here which is the ability to gracefully cross-promote now most

artists a lot of artists rather hate promotion they want to live in the art

they went to art to speak for yourself the promotion part we fall that on and normally when you get

something cracking and then you try to introduce your new smash single it just never works out somehow he managed to

get this quarantine radio [ __ ] popping and successfully plug his project that

was coming without annoy and the people that didn't give a [ __ ] about that yeah here's our art today as someone that

hates promoting music but was in the business of trying to sell music boy is

there art to that hey it's a lot of you [ __ ] out there now to suffering and going through that exact same thing where you don't know how to promote

music don't want to promote music but you gotta sell music I know it's [ __ ] up well I'll tell you to that point kind

of on the flip side of that coin I do feel for the artist that looks at the Tory Lanez and goes now I'm just I'm just dead as a

musician and artist I don't know how to play this game I just know how to make

good music like I feel for that artist as well yeah everyone's asking me am i label or within my management team

alright you need to start doing something like this to to get to get your music out there elsewhere like now I'm just I'm just a musician man I don't

know what the [ __ ] to tell you that artists should not exist anymore if you if you're in this industry and you feel like all you want to do is just make

music and play it out you're gonna have a mall today there are a lot of

especially SuperDuper stars like Beyonce and Kendricks those people that nature

if you are an exceptional talent you can just do music and perform I mean not

during the pandemic obviously but if you think that Oh Beyonce does is do music and perform no I didn't mean to diminish

her know what I think yeah I think I'm saying I'm saying that an artist you

should you should know the more of the business is what I'm saying you should know more about different areas of the

business different areas of how to one protect your art how to reap the most from your art and how to share your art

with the world because if you put it in the hands of other people and leave it up to them to share your art sometimes your art gets misinterpreted

I 100% agree i 100% agree with you I just am NOT gonna judge those artists

because I know the information is still being kept from them like yeah it's real [ __ ] out here giving it up so I mean

if you are that's what the Joe boy how it's more easy it's easy to find it's easier to hear these stories now about

how a lot of artists get jerk like when you was on everyday struggle in and and

yadi didn't know what his contract was like you almost you almost passed out at the thought of that like how and this

year in this age where those information is steadily event readily available how do you not know what kind of deal you in

and that was shocking to you but that's what I'm saying artists should at least know the

business real quick let me jump in right there because this is a great time to uh to come clean about something I've

thought about with that whole yachty situation I 100% agree that every act should know their contract and I'm flat

at least I'm flabbergasted to find out when artists don't know their contract in that particular moment the same

phrase that I speak of bad boy with today in hindsight I speak of QC with as well

like yes there are machines yeah there they are machine like they are

controlling a certain market share and if they want to do it for you they can do it for you so they would be deserving

of what they're asking for but you should still be aware yeah you just know

be a witness to say with the upper echelon artists not everyone has to do a

quarantine radio because there are artists that have machines behind them or just so immensely talented that they

will cut through without having to do anything but just recording music and performing music again obviously not

during the pandemic but that's a very rare in small percentage of people yeah part at that point I was gonna make that

not every artist is a machine in themselves [ __ ] the people about like around them you know it's it's the

rarest thing ever when someone can in the NBA dribble pass shoot drive like

that's how superstars are created some artists can just shoot a three-pointer and they're the best at it and they want

nothing to do with anything in the paint leaving the [ __ ] out the paint so it's tough that now they have to come in

and you're forcing someone that only wants to shoot a three-pointer to now exist dunk but I'm not even tall enough

to dunk what the [ __ ] this ain't even part of my life like it's no but I think tough to put an artist in that situation

when all they literally want to do is create music like I think I think that I think that the ones that that benefit

more today are the ones are the ones they learn the business and that know

how to do more mm-hm like back to your point where yeah okay if you have a big man now know he can do

his rebound his career is gonna be short-lived I agree and we got to be able to my ass

you got to be able to defend right let me add my point was at work well let me just add two more point as someone who's

been on the unfortunate side of this coin the dues that are playing the business game in the business normally

are doing somewhat better than the people that only hear about the art Oh everything everything you guys are

saying is correct what I started this entire thing was I feel for those artists that literally just want to come

in and create the earth that was my original point get like I feel for that artist cuz 1000% you have to know the

business or got to be success that's why what TV is doing and has done is so amazing it's so amazing to me and so

amazing period because it seems like they keep finding artists that are about

the art and making them win in business yeah and it's a real amazing feat to

watch um but you have to be to a certain caliber of artists to have that luxury

like sure like yeah yeah like even like

Cole for example who would say in the rap world would is a superstar he

struggled in the beginning having to alright you got to chase the single you got to do disappearance you got to be

part of this you have to be active on social he'll never say it but I think TDE really helped him I think TD

certainly helped how dreamville yeah I don't want to say like TDE taught dreamville by a saying that I think they

looked at dreamville I pardon HCDE and was like alright we can do something on a lesser scale without the monster of

Jimmy Iovine but we could do it the way we want to do it can be done yeah yeah we can go find the artsy person and

muin yeah we can take my fan base which is arenas mm-hmm and put them onto real

art [ __ ] that we like yeah I agree I'm last on my list for Tory Lanez is to innovate slash introduce which is what I

feel like he did with that whole YouTube performance thing where he was talking to fans and they were tipping him $20 at

a time it's all this has been a really genius independent rollout I have to say I have to say absolutely I tip my hat to

the guy and say not only that it's um it's exciting this I think it's an exciting time um I think you know we're

gonna look back at this and and point to this like this was a turning point for I you know you now now [ __ ] that you

remember a few months ago more I don't know what talk we was having but the culmination of it was hey roll out of

roll out just really ain't that important we want the music I think this pandemic has reverse engine reversed

that all the way yeah like I said today I have a better appreciation for how

you're rolling out your music because it takes some unique [ __ ] to cut through with all the real [ __ ] going on in the

world mm-hmm absolutely well this this don't get it twisted this changed you know a lot of

things it forces you to create you have to create ways to still be visible to

still create to still move in business you can't have an audience in front of you like physically but that doesn't

mean you can't reap the benefits of having you know people in an arena so you do something you know you bring in

technology you bring in different ideas of how to still give people that energy and that passion from from their live in

their living room but still you can be rewarded for that y'all like do y'all see Kalon ease our album artwork I have yes yeah yeah man I

don't want to be the guy to say this toxic [ __ ] man but I'm gonna say it here comes in sucks I got a man I'm gonna say

it say I don't know what she went through I'm sure it was hurtful but we

bout to get some great [ __ ] smoking this rollout she's smoking the songs but now

I don't want to sound like I'm just saying that cuz she called in here cuz I'm not this was our vibe before she called in here

[ __ ] the rollout for me my personal I don't give a [ __ ] about the rollout from my fan base her music has been

hitting for the past few records so that's what I'm your rory talking to his family's know my fan base me like me no

Rory no Lori's trampy no not my family's me I'm me Kalani he's saying he's the

fan base I'm Bonnie I'm no I'm not gay he's saying he's kala I do business

conversation those we often say you know artists you know the business which is very true but on top of that artists

that are planning on moving independently and you know upper echelon category need to apply creativity

outside of the art which is a different conversation like you can know all the splits and publishing information you

want in the world but if you're not thinking creatively about how to reach your [ __ ] out there that's kind of the

key yeah for sure and I love what what what Royce was saying during his a press

run for his album yeah owning your masters is great but if your music sucks there's no point right that

they're not gonna create any revenue just by owning them all right there's a bunch of other things you need to take

into consideration before you even get your business right as far as making

this even matter well so yeah the business alone is it's important but there are other factors that's not it's

not there's more when the board important ones at the end of the day you're talking about some REO Street

somebody just sent me Holly gonna in a fight last night who's Holly yeah that

was floating around I got that somebody sent that to me too then we'll see we'll see won't we now friends really no more

that leads to someone talk about why don't send me the goodies cuz I look at

it not laugh thought it wasn't a no much that booth was she getting busy no I

don't know who Holly is or who this fight is foot yes and that's my [ __ ] I love Holly but no Hollywood [ __ ] wasn't

wasn't a good look wasn't the Victoire this didn't look like a W yeah I mean it wasn't it wasn't a brutal like beating it wasn't

everybody gets beat up in a life yeah yeah this goal wasn't at home it wasn't

all right Wow speaking of beatdowns and tory lanez

malls former artist crazy out there

oh yeah man is cruel now what was the name of your manager I never met never

had a management rule yeah I know huh no hip-hop since in 1997 yeah that was this

and I'll be honest with the audience the Selena Powell girl I don't I don't know

anything about I don't I just what I hear is she's this 2020 version of cats

tax even though you could never [ __ ]

who's won in the verses and castithan okay I call my bad are you got your

micro who won in the super head verse cats tax versus cut your mic off again

um so I don't know very much about this Lena Powell girl a long story less long from what I hear she's running around

trolling a bunch of rappers but I guess some of it is serious she's actually sucking some of these [ __ ] dicks

Howdy's rappers fall for this stuff is heavy on me I think this girl might even

tried to DM me one time it just read like somebody that's trying to put some [ __ ] I was like get out of here um and

that's that's the extent of my knowledge to this young lady um I've watched some interviews I don't know where she's from

I don't know where she resides but the story allegedly goes that Selena Powell was in front of Tory Lanez is miami

condo for some reason I mean why is she in front of Tory Lanez is miami condo

there's women outside of miami condos so one story to miami lives there okay I

refuse to believe that Tory Lanez and Selena Powell live in the same condo building you never know why why is that

all condo building would be wise they're hard to

believe I'm kind of rolling with more wise our to believe because I believe

toreally okay not saying all time millionaire not to sale it and I be not to say live access to people that live

in that building is what I'm suggesting no I'm Santa that's indifferent act like these chicks don't have three four or

five [ __ ] that [ __ ] with them that they get money from every month where they can afford these places I know chick says we're in the same jury

as a multi-platinum rappers say that matter of fact more jewelry than here

flattened rappers and it be their home okay you're absolutely correct I didn't know this was the hill we were down on

the fine no I'm not say you can't see I don't think she would lived it why not cuz I'm talking about an assumption that

I made no this is foolish me foolish made shouldn't so maybe she doesn't hear yeah maybe there's some sugar daddy

[ __ ] putting up who knows we don't know you're right or maybe she's in the real estate well so no yeah maybe she's showing home

maybe she has businesses that we're not aware of yeah no it's true or maybe she escorts on that block who knows who

knows so many options who are we to judge man [ __ ] I [ __ ] they live in this building yeah I understand I get it

alright well anyway she was loitering down there she was trespassing

she was loitering down there and I guess her and Tory Lanez allegedly had an

exchange of words when he was coming out and while they were taking a chef your

athletic former artists runs up from behind and snuffleupagus is the poor

unsuspecting Selena Powell Kalyn Garcia pounds are out allegedly and then flees

the scene yo ma ma now Joe is he keeps referring

to Kaelin as your frog instead of his this is man that's for home with his for

sometimes you got to take the bull yeah I'll take it I'm blocked that changes

everything yeah you not block yeah yeah no no it's okay I'll take that yeah

so shout out to Caitlin then of course shout out to Caitlin then fled the scene with Tory Lanez and his bodyguard let

this sink in a Bentley yeah and that is what we have of the story yeah and no

allegedly never allegedly and Selena Powell post the picture of her and a wheelchair with a neck brace on saying

see you in court [ __ ] okay yeah yeah react I mean does she she

does have at work Lisa she works out she's in shape yeah okay so she can

handle herself [ __ ] Caitlin's in shape she's athletic Zumba punch the [ __ ] at her allegedly

this is all legit but um I just I don't

know man I I guess see them fling fling together well you maybe we had plans

maybe we were on out we were on our way somewhere originally so after that little sidebar we just continued on our

destination wasn't we didn't flee we were leaving to go somewhere anyway we

had an appointment we had defined fleet

I was my way out that was leaving you what you were downstairs in front of the building like and first of all this is

my crib this is my sign right why you even at my scene right it just amazes me

that [ __ ] like this has happening when like we're literally supposed to be inside [ __ ] is supposed to be in the

house it just amazes me that Tory Lanez is now both of our Eskimo brothers Oh

who's both of ours me you see was talking to say one how does it mean you

well I don't know if you got some information that I don't know then you can you share or I mean forget it there

yeah I don't know if you dig Italian yes oh yeah no I don't know that's no

brothers oh now I'm just told you

brother means yeah no but I didn't know that you just told me something that means you're both killed okay that's

that's what's up I don't know who you talk I'll take it it is what it is but

that's just something okay that's kind of awkward but I y'all [ __ ] be awkward when they find out who did brothers with

and think I'm mad at all these [ __ ]

bit is that why I'm always mad at Tory Lanez oh I'm mad at Torian somewhere

damn boy according to uh according to him not according to you Cory I'm a Tory was mad

I think he felt some type of way about me saying Joyner was a better rapper and I still do think Johnny Lucas is a better app that's the only thing I've

ever said that Tory would feel since I went back to that battle by the way and we were wrong about what that I don't

want to make this like the Tory fest podcast but we were wrong go back and listen that [ __ ] no Tory all right

listen because this is something that I've thought about even back then and I know we definitely now no no it's not by

Rhonda we having a conversation Tory has flow his flow is amazing

specially if I do with your chicks that a dude that has that flows with melody it comes across better when I say rapper

I meaning like I don't think he says better [ __ ] than joint it was saying then they could say what do we say

better [ __ ] to your girl than you awesome that's what we get in it I don't know you need my I don't know what he'd

be saying it was fine you know you've been stopped singing he'd been told him

about me totally no you're not singing to him no more I never say no to chicks

thought that one might be yeah nah that wasn't my thing so I was I was getting chicks before the dildo that's the

difference this year you know I'm sad without a lot of a lot of [ __ ] get the deal and in

Elvis I don't say a lot of [ __ ] it's about one day a lot of [ __ ] though

let's not do that none of those two is true hey listen speaking of dudes getting awkward when

they Eskimo brother come around right [ __ ] Bow Wow that's funny popped up

in my videos the other day talking about it yeah I forgot what video he was tall

develop a video meets on my Gloria yeah yeah that video from oh three

camaraderie the guy loved her I'm on her

side oh no that is hilarious right I'm joking

of course shout the glory of Allah sounded bad I don't even know if he's telling the truth it's just funny when

they could do that that's weird though the DM a dude to say I hit as well that's weird

yes that's weird to me to me that's odd but see this is what I'm trying to swear

to me see they don't know that you I hit bro well but [ __ ] [ __ ] my biggest kid I

don't know each other we met don't write don't do that we've club we've partied and whipped together tonight I met Nancy

what's up with you introducing to Nancy

no no no no I did that on my own that was I so yeah yes move to nobody

nobody I was with knew a thing yeah yeah well you can get that one off that's good I miss whip a little bit whip was

[ __ ] I missed I mean I don't miss it now I miss my neighbours I mean I was still going out I missed it I miss guest house holiday I miss home

watch the nightlife is never stopped [ __ ] I missed the bar up the street we can't even go outside anything first

place you're going on when we allow back out they say New York is opening back May 15 wait when I want to outside

outside I'll tell you that yeah yeah that was a to different question I'm not going anywhere on May 15 no I mean that's a good question I

might decide spot uh in Little Italy for dinner prime my first move I don't think

we're gonna be able to do that for a while no they like restaurants I don't think of it saying that they're gonna

let the restaurants open at 30% capacity but they're not saying is that no restaurant can function is not telling a

certain [ __ ] I'm speaking of them not telling us certain [ __ ] if you watch that outside a shadow of DOC on YouTube

that I recommended to last night I watched the fall of cabal 1 through 10 1

to 10 is funny 1 through 6 he was locked in let's check it out within our episodes - huh no no no like

for 25 minutes no salt in was only two and a half hours

yeah it wouldn't get right to it yeah um yes um oh so what you gonna do

man text Kaitlyn tell chill oh yeah will that's correct I can whenever deck anybody for y'all

whoo that's cool bro know as you try to talk [ __ ] dawg - you're just in

different oh yeah that was on the TV oh that was on this - um what else is going

on what else is important out here in the world all right mom real quick I don't want to have a long extensive

conversation about this but your guys back on the loose who's that - baby yeah

I just I just read that man well let me well let me let me let me read it to you now this is straight from TMZ a credible

source a credible source credible source it says the baby can't keep his hands to himself if you believe a driver buh buh

buh blot this is saying that he attacked the driver in Vegas and then let me just

say Vegas is the spot to attack a driver Vegas is the spot for anything

the driver got a call to pick up the baby in Vegas back in November and the rapper and some friends hopped in his

Mercedes Sprinter van we're told after a few stops the baby and his friend sparked the joint and the driver told

them that was a huge no-no cops say the rapper and his friend started cursing

out the driver and threatened him when they got to the Hard Rock Hotel the driver told his passengers it was time

to pay up the driver claims the baby punched him in the back of the head and said you ain't the boss all of us have

been in this exact same story trying to go somewhere in Vegas hopping in this printer and trying to lie to join the

driver saying no but anyway our law enforcement sources say one of the suspects said you're lucky you're not in

my city because I would have killed you crack a [ __ ] we're told the baby

and his company got their bags but not before someone allegedly said they would have left the driver dead on the road

we're now told there's an active arrest warrant they're bringing the baby for misdemeanor battery

and I tossed the ball to Moll I want the

baby to ball was a misprint people in his office was in this printer he saw

people in his corner need to uh they need to recognize that he needs a he needs they're helping he's yeah he's he

has he has PTSD you gotta realize this is somebody that killed someone and then

was thrown right into superstardom so I don't think he had the chance to kind of like really you know deal with that

traumatic event and getting help for that so I think that he's just on edge a lot you know when you go through a

situation like that where you actually have to not only shoot but you know you killed someone and you know me that

takes a toll on you mentally and I don't think he ever had the amount of time to really deal with that to uh you know

he'll heal from that situation he was thrown right into being a [ __ ] superstar maybe two months after that so

it's kind of like you know it they have to people have to say you know what we got to give this kid a break give him

time to he'll give give himself time to really get past that because I mean it's clear at this point that this is a dude

that's on edge he's uh he's working on the short fuse and it's come it comes from [ __ ]

your past and you know again we like to talk about it here we don't really like as men we don't address our mental

health enough especially when you know you successful getting money you kind of think that that can mask a

lot of those things and you know that's not how it works because when you know the arena closes and the fans go home

you still have to sit in your mind and think so yeah I like the baby a lot man

I think he's super talented I just think that you know if he doesn't address this this situation that he has and this

issue that he has as far as his mental health I think that this is gonna be a tragic story for us and that's gonna

unfold right in front of us and yeah it's time it's time at this point for uh the people around him that love him

genuinely love him not just that need him whoo he's paying bills for and all that the people that really love him and know

him for real they need to get close to him and just you know get him some help man and sit down and make sure that your

boy is right because you know if he goes and you know a lot of [ __ ] will fall after that so pray for him magaz I

really like that dude man I like him a lot yeah I agree with you I think the

situations we've seen as of the past two to three have been such avoidable small

situations that didn't need to happen that that I completely agree with with you saying he's certainly on a short

fuse you know for sure he's these these situations could have been so minuscule

and so easy to avoid that now we're dealing with criminal charges when we know this isn't what you saying would

you not say like that but if you're the superstar you're not even talking to a printer driver about a bill you

shouldn't you know saying I shouldn't no that doesn't even if that's not a status thing that's just a liability thing you

should be I'm not doing this directly Pino this this isn't us trying to make

well no it is in some degree of trying to make celebrities gods and in a way that yeah they need to not do that

because unfortunately how the court system is set up with suing people in

these types of cases yeah they're gonna join you're gonna go after the guy with the money they're not gonna go after like just you need to stay away from it

that's that's kind of my issue with with everything with going on with the baby it's never a huge situation that

couldn't have been avoided it's such a small small thing that we didn't even need to hear about it and the part about it about there being about all of them

being such very small things is that even if you had handled all of them and

they all maybe got thrown out the way you're dismissed or never went before a judge when you go before a judge once

they look at all that [ __ ] they look at every single incident and I'm not saying

that's the correct way to go about things but they look at all that they look at your old track record should have never made it to court [ __ ] this in

the newspaper [ __ ] that's in the blogs they're looking at it so I mean it's just it's just they try to paint a

picture yeah yeah yeah this is just I hate when you help him I hate when we help them in I pray for

the baby I hope he's alright but I definitely hope that this pattern stops at some point yes he just has to

get help honestly he has to get the help that he needs yeah um I always like to highlight when when

podcasters or creators in general are going through things with their distributor /d s PE / media multimedia

outlet their partner and we've got one here and this one is pretty juicy hmm no

sale give us the juice boss it's juicy okay no listen I have you know I try to

speak to a lot of the other podcasters out there and I have heard horror stories from up-and-coming podcasters

saying about just not knowing the rules not knowing the boundaries not knowing

they're worth signing something out of desperation I've heard them all very

rarely do we get a big fish it's like going fishing you get something big on the line yeah this is a big one this is

juicy to me anyway um I'm gonna read this off page six and I'm talking about

barstool hey Dave barstool and their

smash podcast call me daddy are any of you familiar with that I've never listened familiar with another never

listen but I know I know what you're talking about well when i was when i am not i when i and we were being courted

by bar stool is when i got wind of this podcast and there were two young white

white girls that just sat around and talk sports [ __ ] and a very white girl

type away both attractive girls the show was a hit from the moment they started

it yeah from the second they did it it was the biggest show there came two huge audience and they were cracking [ __ ] and

that's how I learned about them through through that courtship but uh I'm gonna

read this from the New York Post it says the host of the hosts of raunchy hit podcast call

her daddy claim they're being heinous ly oppressed by sports media behemoth

barstool sports which launched the show barstool has defended itself to page six

telling us it made them into quote-unquote superstars using its multi using its million-dollar marketing

machine before I even read any any more this is the we've heard this before yeah

how we feel about this may be different but yeah this is the same as this is the

same as I'm a stuff argument this is the same this we've just heard this story before about hey I got this [ __ ] poppin

no you didn't I kind of got it poppin with my multi-million dollar marketing machine you can do [ __ ] you just talent

anyway I continue it says Alexandra Cooper and Sophia Franklin who launched the show in 2018 have stopped recording

the weekly podcast and launched the free the father's hashtag suggesting they're

being imprisoned or even enslaved by the company but someone leaked their contracts to us but someone but someone

hint leaked their contrast US and industry insiders who reviewed them tell us the deal is actually pretty sweet for

a new podcast with unproven hosts there we go that's the second method that they

always go to unproven hosts who were you before you got here you were a nobody

yeah oh god I hate it um the contract says that they're each making 75 grand

annually as a base salary going up to 100 grand after three years with an

additional 2500 and episode dig this for every ten percent of listeners that can

pull in above their average that they can pull in before above their average the deal adds up to a steady six-figure

take home insiders estimate estimate would you like to chime in now or should

I continue reading continue reading but we're told that the real money for the pair is in TV and book spin-off deals

which they can't cash duh guess why do I have to read the next sentence to you guys because they own

you [ __ ] right of course barstool Holmes in the financier normally owns it

yeah which they can't cash it on because bar still owns the show's intellectual property such as its name logo and the

concept what do they own their likability though cuz that'll change you can't do the call me daddy book or

whatever it is do they own their like a bill no likeness what I know whatever it

is no bar stool owns all of that as it pertains to call me daddy

it says if I was their agent I tell them that now is the time to get out of their deal or renegotiate it said one their

huge right now you don't want to wait until after your moment has passed barstool rep tells us in the case of car

daddy we took a risk on unproven talent and put the full resources of barstool sports in our million-dollar marketing

machine behind them to make them huge the rep told us they've been given significant raises the goal with all of

our talent here including Alex and Sophia is at the end of their contract their personal brands are worth far more

than they started and I'll in that there somebody else said that for unproven

talent that's a hell of a contract that they secured what do you gentlemen think about this where do you stand I have to

highlight it uh well Sears they created the show I don't know much about I'm

with parks I don't know much about who they are and was this a podcast prior to

divorce to adopt this when they had maybe no [ __ ] Oh or did bars we'll just

find you our hero to my knowledge creatively sports let's put you two together I want to say that barstool is

responsible for that part I don't know but tonight they are then this is it

seems like okay I can con decide what Barcelona if this was their show that they created and just found two hosts

yeah for the show this was literally two chicks that they cast hitting gave them each seventy five grand a year off a

complete unknown podcast sure that's that's a that's a pretty significant

look has bet but that doesn't that doesn't add up I don't think they would be giving money to people that didn't have some sort

follow that's that's why I asked that question that's why I can't fully answer this total other side of that what do

you mean that you don't think they would be giving people with that much money that's not that much money

yeah specially for exactly how much barstools that's not that much no I know I'm aware of some degree of what bar

Buster was worth because I've read you know their deal with that brought them Marvel has west of course they sold some

shares got some money barstools doing all right Gillian um over there doing all right but I mean you got to highlight this

stuff especially if I'm Gilliam watching stuff like this well of course that's his label mate and I don't mean that in a funny way

solutely but ya know this stuff is important to pay attention to and I don't I don't necessarily think that

that that's a lot of money now mm well now wait if that's part of the problem to kiss I want to highlight I want to

make a point part of the problem is no podcaster out here really knows how much

you should be making I want to start there that's why those knows how much

you should be versus how much you should be know what you know what your worth is

should but you have to know your worth and and yeah but you have to know your worth a comparative comparative to is

that aware comparative yeah I know what you mean it's not it is in comparison to in comparison to the market and what's

happening in the market that's what I'm saying I want to say no podcaster knows

really what they should be making they're not gonna tell you what they're making them know you'll never find out

all of it nobody's giving you true true analytics you know yeah but if you

analyse that they want to negotiate based upon yeah exactly even back to what we were saying what if you take the seminar and out of chicks out of nowhere

bout to say yes or anyone out of nowhere I also need to know where they fell in the bar stool podcast network they're

number one no no I'm saying when it started when they first started because bar still has a significant podcast network now where if we launch a podcast

it's gonna get significant traffic they've gotten our name quickly okay so

I'm still saying I'm not quickly yeah not to side with with bars

or with those girls 75 grand offered out you shouldn't take a salary deal off

that to begin with but that's a significant amount of money you can if this is nothing girls not to do that

you can tell anyone volunteers out there quitting their jobs if they if they if their podcast is gonna pull in $75 a

grand a year as I'm said no key word there was salary if you can bring that

in with ad revenue [ __ ] you but if you're gonna put me on salary on something that's bar stand this is where

this is where you and I normally go awry and I always say that this is white privilege from you why you think that

they get add anything no that's not white privilege if barstool started the

show no yeah take the salary you have no choice barstools starting a show and said yeah I think you'd be great for

this I'm talking about somebody that started a show if no I'm not taking a salary up that's not white privilege if

bars [ __ ] business if Barnes dude but that's not how the business is happening out here just take from me saying

Charlotte take a salary is not me being well what I'm saying is if barstool didn't create the show if these two

young ladies created the show brought it to barstool it popped off with barstools

marketing and their finances behind them and barstool is out is outsourcing or

the [ __ ] uh procuring the ads I'm asking from a network standpoint where were they with their new year not we

know barstool was getting ads for their for their platform before these two white girls got here of course no no no

no I'm asking with their podcast network you miss I keep saying the same thing that you're not addressing I can't

answer that because I don't know where bar stools podcast network was if bar stool puts out a [ __ ] podcast now

it's getting mad traffic because of their network I'm trying to teach you something right now who cares where the

network was because that's the duality that's at stake right now is the podcasts that are actually performing

versus the podcasts that maybe aren't really but they got a whole bunch of ad

money coming in we're gonna have that real talk soon well then let me know let me teach you something there that's not

good if I if I end up becoming the number one [ __ ] and

on the same salary as a podcast that's not doing [ __ ] I made the wrong [ __ ] deal very welcome yes I know this well

what are we doing here oh because you're saying I made the wrong [ __ ] deal I'm

saying that's something that the podcaster normally has to sit with themself professor because typically we

make the wrong deal it's most of us out there have a wrong deal or two in our in

our history it's a new blueprint and these are two young girls who I'm assuming have never done this before I

don't know the history but I have to assume that they're fresh in the game they don't know all the different

streams and income that might come along with this [ __ ] or or how much they were really worth to barstool they probably

never thought they would even shoot up to number one so quickly what hmm they did it so now what are you doing

that spot is what I'm asking y'all the [ __ ] arguing about despite what do you do do you do you do you say [ __ ] y'all

I'm gonna stop recording you made me make another one I just read somebody say I think bar school found their dog

call me daddy replacement I haven't researched that yet but I mean I wouldn't be shocked what do you do as

the talent there and what do you do as the corporation is what I'm asking you gentlemen well again that has to do with

the contract depending where we're at with it well the contract I just read if

they make 75 grand if you're the person when women's the contract end is what I'm saying it doesn't say that that

would want that would change where I'm at with it if Mustang is this my thing is always a right out user if you have

the potato contract yeah depending where it is I'm sorry say that's your contract

you feel like barstool [ __ ] to you like you know they jerk this my thing is even

through that perform build an audience build a platform you're gonna make your

money at some point because now if we're the number one podcast here and we've

built we bring it in all of these numbers it yeah I could [ __ ] us on the first deal you know yo cool we took the loss but at some point you have the

power and in the renegotiation to say you see what we did we know what job did the first go-around

that won't happen again so now show us how much you're willing to either pay to keep this and we keep

growing this here or we take we've already built and you see what we're doing here

and we go another route so people get caught up and all we gotta do okay cool

let them fine as long as you learn and you know the business now you know to feel cool keep doing what you're doing

keep being great at what you're doing keep building what you're doing but at some point you'll have to sit back across that table from each other and

now we talk real like okay we know we took the loss on the first go-around we recognize that we ate that we sat

with that y'all know what we did though I'll see what we did how much y'all

wanted to pay to continue this I'm not willing to pay [ __ ] I own your likeness and you can't do nothing if I don't

support it because it's not gonna fly and I can go find two more unknown people that are willing to come in here

and work for 75 grand and listen I give me a hassle let's see it and and to that point if those two women are that

confident in their ability to do a podcast to what mall just said alright see if they replace us with with someone

else do I know my ability and what I bring because we don't it regardless Joe the creative doesn't lose in that

situation because we have our audience but and that's more valuable than any

platform that you have whether we have or they're gonna follow I think that's a privilege take that you have I mean of

course I'm speaking from that you are in a stamp where I never speak like that position actually the unique position

you speak of is while okie took offense to Rory's little leader joke a few podcasts back I would have never allowed

us to be in this position I would have never allowed us to be in a position where any company is gonna look at us

and say nah y'all wasn't doing XYZ before you got here excuse me no right

right and I understand that but though what I'm saying I want you to I want you to put yourself in the mind of and

you're not there so it might be tough but put ourselves in the mind of the

person that hey maybe without this 75 grand a year on without this job I may

have a difficult time well I don't think that was the question that you asked us that's bringing it to

its natural actually what you would do as the person on the talent side and what you would do as the corporation

side ask you both oh you answer you answer the talent side more answer the

talent side at that point I need to see again I had to see where we're at in the contract cuz I would change how I

wouldn't would maneuver through it if we have a couple months left yeah let's not make our fanbase not hear our podcast

let's just ride the [ __ ] out in the mean time and then we can address everything with our lawyers for renegotiation and

if we gotta leave we gotta leave what do you do as what do you do is the corporation I've deleverage what are you talking

about see you said what would the works out here damn deleverage was like what

do you talk no they debate why this Congress is their creators have delivered soil no the corporation see I

don't believe a big corporation has the like they both couldn't have leverage in different ways yeah I don't know they they have the leverage in the contract

in owning the likeness of something that's bringing in a lot of revenue to that to them all right I don't think

that that podcast brings in 75 a grand each for those women obviously it's a

really lucrative and much more that's very lucrative podcast yeah so that's why I say bar stool in this instance

would have the leverage because they own the likeness of a podcast that is bringing in much more than the salary that they are paying their co-hosts so

if I'm them know I'm sitting here with my contract because that's just business in what it is I want to I think has

always had a leverage ma'am I'm sorry always I'm sorry always while you can it

depends on the contract yeah it because here's the thing and it's like a example

to Jordan documentary everybody was told my Pippins contract it was [ __ ] up the standard um but again he signed the

contract based on he wasn't willing to gamble on his his health and his career he wanted to secure something and to be

clear Pittman made over a hundred million in his career I think people lost that somewhere like so he got paid but you can't it's like when Jerry

Krause try to say the organization won the championship and Mike was mad at that like Mike was like what like no the players

want like we went out there we did the work so in saying the Bulls have the

leverage no they don't because if you don't have a creator like Michael Jordan or creator like Scottie Pippen or

creator like Dennis Rodman there's no success did now you can gamble and try to go find you know these

creators somewhere else but and how many years are you gonna be trying to find something that's gonna work and actually

be successful are you willing to do that I can because you can go out to find somebody sit in the seat and do a podcast isn't one is

it going to be successful I'm just one the time I mean I could 100% enter in July well okay we can answer that July

but what I'm saying is I don't I don't think that the companies always have the leverage I'm sorry I think that you can

have a platform you can have this nice office space and all it is if you don't have anybody to create something that

people are willing to tune in for you don't have anything but a [ __ ] nice

office space I'm sorry well like so I'm always on the side that the creator's

always have the leverage if you cannot create if you cannot put somebody in these and these seats to create

something to create building audience to create a listening listening a viewership or whatever if you cannot put

these people in these positions what good is having this money for this company and this staff and all this [ __ ]

if you don't have any creators the creators always have the leverage I'm sorry I'm gonna always say that the

creators and the talent have the leverage always sure yeah it's just

unfortunate when creative sign contracts that give the corporation the leverage instead and that appears to be business

naturally not known to be you can you can give away your leverage that's that's nothing give away your leverage

like Scottie Pippen he didn't believe in his his ability but at the same time if I'm Barstow and again we know nothing

about these young women they can say that mono that sounds nasty I don't want to say that because I'm not sure how

deep it went and I'm sure Scottie Pippen believed in his ability he just had some other variables he was considering like

his uh his uh preexisting injuries and his family but you know it's another

good example that and and actually we just stated a culture just one in The Breakfast Club and I asked him I asked

each one of them about the contracts and envy was the first one to answer and he said I thought my said long-term I got a family yeah but Joe

everybody has a family the perfect is

the perfect here's a perfect comparison when Mike in the documentary he broke his foot and the doctor said it's a 10%

chance you break it again you'll never play again it's a 90% chance you'll never break it again Mike believed in his ability he

took a gamble on his ability and his body Scottie Pitman wasn't willing to take that gamble on his ability in his body

that's the difference sometimes you just have to know like listen I'm rolling the dice on myself you can't roll the dice

on yourself if I own yourself yeah oh

you own this this boy I agree with you by the way you know I always say I can

get up and when you leave take the [ __ ] value with you eh I don't care if you own the name of the show to title

the logo to license would you enjoy it have a seat don't matter yeah I get that

the way from death row let's roll let's remember that and I know it yeah well and gave us the classic ring ding ding

ding ding don't keep the head to sin he knew his ability it was ready sitting

over there you better get up out your chair any time any time while singing it

come on a record I just like it but what sucks what athletes do your pivot point is they can't up and leave the way a creative Ken Jordan no they to

go away I've done it - oh please do it all the time - go where well whatever team they want to go - no no I'm talking

about you can't leave the NBA Oh a locked into a system of the NBA someone an artist can leave the structure of

labels and major labels and sell they [ __ ] [ __ ] hand to hand if they want to and still be successful true

absolutely athletes here you want to go overseas and get a lot of money I don't know how that's really gonna help you

out in the long long run but no but that's why I got more from athletes and understand Scotty being like now I'm not

gonna sacrifice a what I have my health is my wealth as far as my ability rose like if I [ __ ]

myself up for this bum ass contract with the Bulls I can't go to a new team healthy and get what I'm worth so [ __ ]

you which is but which is why it's different for a theis because then you'll end your likeness to you know you

do a sneaker deal you do a whatever type of deal on the side it has nothing to do with NBA well now thank God they they

have more revenue streams but back then I shoe deals wasn't like they was handed

about like we are now the important thing is you have to be able to perform at a high level

Thanks and that's was something that I took from the Jordan dhokli he said it didn't matter what you took from what my sneaker looked like didn't matter would

to sneak a look like I'm not allowed and played away I play and nobody's behind the shoe it doesn't matter

not even reporting that's the important part you have to go out there and you have to perform at a high level and the rest will take care of yourself yeah

when you at least agree that every team that that every team LeBron beat and the

finals was better than any team Jordan facing the finals would you don't you

don't believe that wait what I don't think that's not a fact no that's not effect Joe son Steve

was super stuck what are you talking about Nana's son's team wasn't beating that Warriors team who else who loves LeBron v-rod beating

the finals better naphthenic T Joe that

Dallas Mavericks team had Dirk Nowitzki he's on my team he lost two yeah I'm

talking bout two teams he beat even teams he didn't beat I'm telling other teams he beat not the teams he didn't

beat the teams you were home Jordan faced every last one of them

no helm the Spurs the [ __ ] Thunder and the [ __ ] up the war so here's the

difference and I don't want to keep talking mrs. Jordan LeBron [ __ ] I love LeBron I love my imma get you to keep talking about it no

and this is and this is the simple this is the simple difference in it all when my kitten couldn't get past Detroit he

hit the weight room he put on weight so he could physically do from pulling ready for that for that series showed us when the Brawn couldn't beat the Celtics

he took his talents to South Beach that's the difference between Mike and LeBron Perry Italy there's no

comparisons lazy there's no comparison that's all and I love LeBron but there's no compare LeBron is a top five play Mike body do

that because he was in the middle of a 17 year contract Oh Mike I'm not able to

date that I'm sure they trying to make some I hate LeBron love LeBron he's he's probably the best person to have a play

in NBA like but he's done with his home bags and and and setting them up with their life in their business that's like

I have a much more important question I would love that the three of you gentlemen okay how do you guys feel when

she pulls the vibrator out during sex

that means you gotta do some more

geojo I do this podcast with three kids

she just renegotiate yes I know you always say this stupid suit no no I'm

just renegotiating it Destin's follow me Thank You Rory yeah Joseph not oh okay

I'm just checking totally follow that [ __ ] listen I mean keep it away from me

there's anything that will rush her nut and get this over with

pull out two vibrators I'm gonna make an

egg Sam yeah she pulled a vibrator you

and you in the bathroom washing up you uh she said okay I'll be in a battle or

you get nauseous damn that's it man where do you want me get your other one yeah I'll give a

low-angle rubdown all right cool all

right she got to get hers if that's what you gotta do I thought somebody thought floating around I said let me ask the

guys I thought I might get you guys with you're saying they'd be mad about it you [ __ ] are the most insecure beings

on the face of the earth man now hold on I will say if she pull out a [ __ ] dildo and start that might be like damn

like because that's like samayou wasn't

enough like [ __ ] you don't want to funny hit that you ain't hit the bottom and [ __ ] like I like it you don't want

to [ __ ] next to the fake dick you want a DP with the dildo

you're not trying to pick a hole we're not doing it no oh you that dildo phobia

yeah I think yeah not my thing not from me away what if she's servicing a different entryway

no I could service all entries no you can't would one dick more what you thought your thumb your thumb is not a

dildo got the strangest all right y'all

this stupid man all right well now what else we got we got this important in the universe is anything important in the universe who knows uh no

Oh long ago long long ago we're we're

now for a dildo podcast hey whoa come on relax Parks I didn't

bring up the topic yeah but you kept it going yeah you trying to stay there yeah you try to bring music yeah you try one

of those vibrating condoms try to step your [ __ ] up nah fam I've used the

vibrating uh ring joint yeah yeah yes cool yeah that's his eye yeah she was

also super fun yeah it was cool listen I can just sit in the [ __ ] I don't even

gotta move you know putting a vibrator condom on is crazy yes I mean putting a

condom on is crazy I'm joking everyone relax Rory everyone relax I'm totally joking

totally joking well Maul you have to get creative in your condom miss just give

me a condom I don't need it to vibrate and shake and all that other shall we eat the light right though yeah yeah we not this year but we don't need a condom

to light up and all this other [ __ ] have you ever tried the fire and ice we'll

never do that again yeah that's so I should that [ __ ] was the worst experience of my life the fans they gave you chlamydia I start yelling

I think it was I started jumping up like Little Richard dancing around that

[ __ ] room yeah whenever I sit it's not good you know I should just give me

a regular carnival you get that video you got it I thought I do gay on my ball you gotta go in the room like the spider-man faint mean when you did what

you could for MIDI omitting it you gotta go in a room like spider-man I mean oh and point it you did it it was you of

course it was yeah wasn't me of course it was of course it was

I'm not [ __ ] nobody else all right hold on man where the [ __ ] is uh where's

this out loud no no I purchased it we not on Soundcloud

no I purchased this bad boy good toxic

vibes on a Tuesday oh man yes Lyman B I needed this I

didn't know they put it on the the DSPs cuz you're not hit Parks the hippest

engineer I think was Ken Henderson he engineered on so sick of parks

oh yeah Ken Henderson did that he did the Beatles ac/dc everybody if Ken

Henderson is hilarious oh man so many

[ __ ] stole something from me physically and mentally Oh

I love this [ __ ] I do really it's

something I'll play whenever we're allowed to go outside it sounded like outdoors yeah this is outdoor music anytime Chris is doing a

collab I got a feeling it's gonna be outdoor like special young thug Hey well young talk especially yeah man but I

mean they're gonna let us out so this is gonna sound real good outside shout-out to Chris Brown and young thug I don't

know if y'all got a chance to hear yet I did yeah I like that I literally enjoyed it yeah let's do less it was all yeah I

thought that was interesting but wait I'm looking at the the one on uh there's

some songs missing all finished though issue right here yeah I think there was a future so let it last night and that

was not yeah oh man when I get outside

fam and you're too late oh my god oMG I

like this Bop like dark Oakland yeah I'm

with you you know in any song telling

the chick the bust that thing open over like dark keys must is good at that too though it's a win it's a win for me yeah

Mustard's good at the dark even though he's from my lay he still has an Oakland feel to me yeah cuz yeah yeah I see that

Hey

four pesos and cheap escorts it's Cinco DeMayo Joe yes oh yeah oh man

I don't see the [ __ ] the driver future that I like on I think I took it off it was there last night but then

they can't keep well [ __ ] trickery [ __ ] these artists this

trickery yeah Wiggins yeah yeah I purchased the

project and I don't see future on here on the version I yeah the one on Soundcloud it was a record call help me

breathe that was crazy they telling me um they've been screaming at me too why why haven't we

spoken about k camp's new project and I'll be honest I listen to it the first

day it came out pardon my ignorance I liked all K camps R&B songs I didn't

know he was a rapper yeah yeah really I'm so I was so confused yeah yeah he

raps he don't think he teasing oh hey melody yeah I mean to the Mellinger definition

of singing all the K camp songs I like alike are be writers yeah yeah I don't

know what to tell you buddy yeah it was a rap project but I mean it

was sing rap but I mean I just realized that it maybe I've had K camp confused I

think you might ha is there another camp I mean not sing-songy it's not this is

not this was R&B to me and there's a few

more songs is I can go to that just oh yeah but the bulk of this [ __ ] isn't I would not think that that person was a

rapper young thug sounds just like that to know young thug sounds more rapper

ish than that I mean he would squeal it's it's a different song he would add a squeal and that would let me [ __ ] I

thought russ was our be singing the first time I heard him first first Russ record I heard was an

army record you ever heard me - Baker you thought russ was army I can play you

the I will you also think a campus I didn't I'm coming here to laugh at myself cuz I just didn't know shout out

the K camp oh I cut it off cuz I thought he was doing the tory lanez thing we was a singer and a rapper so I was like

alright I'll just wait for the army project we're like uh this was the first record I heard from Russ cuz I'm out of

the loop on that [ __ ] thought he was an R&B singer I know he's a rapper it's no

sexy you thought this was a rapper I didn't know yeah it happens yeah I guess

um did you are gay camp album oh no I did yeah I don't hear ya oh yeah well

why didn't you come in here talk about it huh huh cuz I don't particularly care

to listen to my mentions all the time I don't have to talk about it cuz you guys say after mm I'm not a slave to my

mention I did see everyone the same

tweet you saw of why the [ __ ] we're not talking about it I thought it was good it's just not something I need to hear my microp like another one I'd like to

hear outside before I talk about it I'll be honest man dis new music [ __ ] tryin to listen to it like and only be able to

be in the house is just weird I'm saying back to replay value man it matters now in this pandemic people

don't give a [ __ ] about new music then wonder if they want to hear this [ __ ] that has replay value I'm still

listening to brint album yeah branches fire yeah upload let's listen to that [ __ ] every day man uh-uh

stove got out this uh this leaven cali kid he's signed to interscope my first

time hearing about him was over the weekend it spelled le v en cali que al i

he put out a really good project we really really good friend I have never heard him before this weekend passed and

he put out a really really really good project yeah I thoroughly enjoyed it and I normally hate you [ __ ] with this

album cover I think uh the staid mullet the CID record is probably the single

right I wouldn't know but no it's a really good project because when I ran

to this this weekend I think I'm gonna play a sleeper all for that project but shout out to shout out to Levin Callie a

really good projects on Interscope yeah it's not the Interscope um what else what else came out nothing else really

came out for me Oh high tide is the name of the album by the way the mozzie album

came out then we talked about that last week we did we did briefly briefly okay I still haven't listened to it yet yeah

I listen to it it's good project real good project his last his last project was dope too he's one of the UH artists from the west

coast that I think needs to be talked about more - yeah he's done mozzie yeah he's wanted to do these Grizelda [ __ ]

putting out another project did I see something like that yeah I didn't always

Jesus Mary and Joseph take a break why don't you they will not take a break not

I took a break I mean it's been all years on the block that was the break mmm

no time for break now Snickers Snickers hey buddy putting out music man yeah no

you know I'm saying you got it why you got the you got the momentum you got to go now you always hell on earth no I'm

saying it's talking hell is hi sorry

what else is what else is super important out there what else is important let me see let me see let me

see mamasay mamasa mamakusa mama say mama sound let me see uh Nicholas Cage as Joe

exotic do y'all care no hot take somebody Rory start with love

break the defense down start with love Lord of war is my [ __ ] I'm cool with Gone in sixty Seconds Nicolas Cage sucks

man he's a shitty shitty actor like he's a bad actor this is gonna suck and I

hope I'm incorrect cuz I love the documentary two bearded he is gonna sing Belle face off like that he is gonna stink up this

law he's gonna be so bad at being that guy this just lets me he can't even be

himself American good weapons [ __ ] idiots like why do we need to know another miniseries about he's fine I'm

saying no he was the character he was fine yeah I don't care yeah the dojo is the he's the guy yeah

we don't need Nicolas Cage to play him I hate America this weird way please man

yeah look at our obsessions you know my cooking no no enough of this back to the

original point man look at how people react to things in the moment it's a moment thing this entire series you

don't the green light a movie of some [ __ ] we liked for two weeks you don't yeah I mean just to sting it

up and waste some money do you guys care that the murder Hornets are here I mean

I really [ __ ] horn it's like murder Hornets murder Hornets what you're gonna do but you're good are you yeah I don't

that doesn't that didn't really I don't own any farm or agriculture no not it come to the Brody's they definitely come

on the Bronx it come to broilers hopefully they kill some of the rats in the Bronx the rats come on they're not

bother and not just the road and Ceaser like the real the dudes walking around a [ __ ] named Joe speaking of rats I don't know I don't encourage I'll encourage

Takashi to shoot a video in his backyard how are you big on land they're gonna

find that backyard oh he won't talk about yeah don't get how he's hiding out

yeah yeah been out is he out you said he bought three calls the first

has been commenting on IG lives murder Hornets murder Hornets what's he gonna

do the killer bees of the murder Hornets they said the the murder well he can't fumble blue tank I'm going killer bees

come on say at the murder Hornets what they gonna do I see ghosts said like 30 murder can kill like all the killer bees okay

what happens I'm gonna roll what they see if their horns are seen is over for

the world you get to a larry johnson Enzo tour the league Muggsy Bogues was

so [ __ ] up they won't give a sh Tom it's a job that is [ __ ] up but

what I mean is from the oils you try to get its from the psalmist the sexual-assault know I'm talking about

the ballplayer know I wanna drop 70 well

after his grandma died in Boston Garden yeah yeah by the way he's trying to be a

basketball player parts to your question and then yeah just trying to support his family so he wants to do and then told

him on camera and he had to say yo we're getting rid of you bro hey wait wait I

was [ __ ] up that was super [ __ ] up the League of the league is crazy man they are that's why I laugh whenever

people be like oh he's that players being an [ __ ] he doesn't want as soon as the owners got a chance to throw you

out the front door they'll do it yeah y'all did y'all hear the story about uh the security guard that was working in

front of Family Dollar that ya argued with the young lady about her child

Facemash know about that yeah and then the young lady I mean she left and then

a car came back and her husband and their son argued with the guy and and

shot him in the head and he's now deceased yeah I want to say rest in

peace to that gentleman prayers and condolences to his family of course cow scream man could we get his name I would

really hate to lose lose life in such a senseless act over over nothing over

over absolutely nothing I'm asking that should that that story horrified me it

horrified me it did honestly and if it didn't horrify me enough then I read a

story about a gentleman by the name of Ahmad our Barry that was

jogging and was tracked down by two white gentlemen in a pickup truck that

this has in Georgia yet I thought he looked suspicious but he looked like a burglar whatever that means

and uh it means they are in a quarantine yeah and there's actual footage out of

them murdering him as he was jogging Oh so raising a lot of wild [ __ ] out the I

want to say rest in peace to Maude our Barry yeah prayers and condolences to his family as well I'm sick that y'all

have to watch that over witness that or even have that footage available online um it's just disturbing it is if you

listen to these be careful out there the world is still a very sick place very sick place with very sick people yeah

Rusty's King shooter while we're definitely doing shot ah yeah Delhi he

was a he was a rapper he signed at nas and and jungle he was friends with Davis really talented kid he passed away there

saved from CO vide but we don't really know for sure and I don't want to you know say the road yeah they were there

with recipe the reports said that may have been some complication with something else but definitely rest in peace came shooter prayers for all his

friends and family and while we're at it rest in peace Don Shula yeah man

rest in peace don't don't you don't you the football legend Oh Oh Paula what

don't you will get two chips undefeated season three chip three chips I took the

dog took the Dolphins undefeated season whatever year that was seventy two yeah

there you go yeah rest in peace won the championship that year in the previous are following

winningest coach in NFL history yeah rest in peace rest in peace to Don Shula Calvin Munn Ellen rest in peace to

have in Monell in going but certainly not forgotten so unfortunate what a

six-story to after here yet I really [ __ ] me up reading reading and seeing

some of that stuff man but I imagine the world's about to just get

a lot crazier he played his song in a

while we haven't my check once who went to my

Check Mic Check one two one two hit it charlie

did you guys see it at all no I'm just

showing it see it's a [ __ ] clown yeah Duke is going live on Friday what a

[ __ ] clown did you guys see that our

Elon Musk named his son like r2d2 you

know he named his I've never knew I couldn't pronounce numbers yeah I didn't

know I couldn't do that I have no idea what his son's name is no I questioned

my own intelligence when I was looking at was like damn if he'll I must go on to something are we just numbers well technically

your social security number is just an investment social security number that

is some [ __ ] just what this that's just an investment from a bank that's your number those [ __ ] Rothschilds

you want for me man

ah let's see here dong Q versus little

tej a I'm off it I don't really care about that that's Annette here on occasion yeah I

just hope that doesn't go anywhere yeah yeah that's all that's all I ask same same same let's see the baby we

spoke about uh here's a question for you guys because I don't have I don't have very much more I don't know how much you

guys have I was off catching up on insecure and Eason Molly are going

through something they have been babban for quite quite the amount of seasons

their friendship seems to be experiencing turmoil but I'm watching this and I'm like man I don't know if

guys really go through this the way that women go through it like I could see how

they may be having some difficulties in the friendship there so I wanted to come ask you guys if you guys have ever been

able to tell when you have outgrown a male friendship yeah I think we've

actually had this conversation have we bought on this podcast is my memory then I know we were discussing that you know

this is the same way you can outgrow people is the same way you can get outgrown but how do you know really as a guy friend is what I'm saying I think uh

young mistress interest point of view goals areas that

you just want to be at whether that be mentally or physically just just around like that's not the type of [ __ ] I want

anymore yeah like when it's not it's a situation where you're not growing you're not

pushing each other y'all not uh you know just trying to evolve it's like what are

we doing you know I'm saying like we you're still trying to do what we was doing all these 15 like No yeah but then

and I think quickly I think also not just with maybe you evolving in that person not evolving just evolving in

different places like you can still be doing just totally fine like it's not for me to feel superior to you or vice

versa you're just evolving elsewhere I'm evolving in this place we just ain't

and that doesn't mean because we whisper don't you have like a plethora of guy friends that are just into different

things like you know I was great to say that it's not it's not I don't want to

seem like I don't like you anymore oh I can't we're not friends anymore it's just we maybe don't communicate as much

as we used to we don't hang out as much as we used to we don't you know we just

don't we're not in each other's lives as much as we used to be because I'm doing something totally different from what

you're doing yeah but you know it's still it's still love it's still like oh that's still my car but we just not you

know we just don't want share not on that same wavelength anymore share commonalities if that's a word - yeah

well within our aging and evolving process that was a lot what like one of

your homeboys has a kids yeah like that changes the dynamic a lot because you

know a lot of [ __ ] that she was doing before like your father now you can't really be doing wow at all you know

hanging out like we used to be so things like that happen it's part of growing it's part of evolving and again it's not

a negative things no sometimes you need to look at your friends that evolve and you know kind of look at yourself and

okay maybe I need to do something and yeah yeah yeah you have to respect that - when when certain friends family

members and I only want to say gender specific that you could have male and female friends the same that all right I

got a respect they're doing something different now and I think it's positive for them so let them go do that

I may just hinder that process let me get away from it mm-hmm and support them the best way I can which sometimes it's

not always a negative distance is sometimes the best support you can give somebody so I think I don't even think

it's gender specific in that way it it's gotta leave people alone sometimes yeah

you guys are mad clear and terminating male friendships ah cuz the dynamic a

changing on your relationship with a dude friend and you still not look at it like the friendship is is ruined or

something else is it like I had two dynamics change yeah oh something that's ruined is that's different

like if you asking me have how do I know when a relationship a friendship is ruined

yeah that's a whole different way of what it's over I mean however it's awesome he would have to really do some

seriously like he would have to violate it on but what if he didn't that's why I said what if you just grow apart of the

friendship like what signs are there as men that hit oh well grow apart in the relationship not you did some [ __ ] [ __ ]

sorry I'm come down with you oh boy like it's not that it's alright we don't necessarily kick it like that no more we

haven't had the conversation mmm nothing's really happened you just go

it's not yeah they're I think when you're not forcing to hang out or

forcing the conversation but just all the things that kind of used to drive you all to be around each other as

friends does it does it feel as natural as it used to like now we've forced on

each other to kind of hang out just because we love each other yeah that's all if it's not if we don't have the

same type of interest and you know if you all you do is work construction

nine-to-five and go home to your family and I'm over here trying to be a creator of the job don't have different interest

in what do you mean not that you cut them off is just an already goes in that row and doesn't doesn't stay intact

because oh yeah I don't think this happened I think you just naturally grow away from people it's a real process got

it got it got it okay yeah no no I don't think one day you're like yo you don't like Maddon anymore sure no no no I

think you just naturally get to a point where you just slowly start to not hang out with each other as much because

you're so interested in other things that's all yeah and the family thing

plays a big part for sure yes it's never you do getting married that would ruin

Shea's the kids because you are now a family like you have to go you have to go douche you have to be home yes you

have to be home yeah that's that's the real rest and peace to the friendship is the kids Rory and then once once you

have kids maybe our kids can be friends and the others like and grow together like you know we could do that too yeah

for sure that doesn't always have plenty of friends that have kids no me too oh no no it's alright there's

a difference between having kids and then having a family that's okay that's

that was my Rory goes it's much different having that full-blown family life with the [ __ ] house go to LAN for one the

wife it's much different than you got a kid from one would know she wanted to

lie now cuz y'all know that difference policial I have the flavour of one he get the free throw in possession yeah

yeah yeah yeah I'm in bounty and so on

y'all you were saying some Joe why

didn't they have Larry Nance and bounding that Cleveland why they didn't

have it so serious I'm only joking on the entry pass you

let them do that bum ass joke move on whatever man it's watching this Gordon dog is really pissing me off

no they should have gone on hey whatever real quick real quick before we go cuz I don't have nothing else what what will give me your latest thoughts on the last

one in here well you think Toni Kukoc got a UH it's off cos Jordans a piece of

[ __ ] like I've been saying for [ __ ] week piece of salt please after the toys why not

toe they want to shut him down fam I'm fighting a war my whole family's in my

country [ __ ] dying town go ahead

scream all this [ __ ] about Mike are you watching the same doc on watching how could you say Mike is a day how and an

Joe left out mad of the very clear point that Jordan and Pippen were making we

are not straight over here yalla try now Jerry Krause [ __ ] over our whole [ __ ] over some guy across the [ __ ] world

that's never proven [ __ ] and my I can't even get my contract together nice Scott you still owe you guys everything you

just said on this whole podcast Jordan beyond the last duck what did he say no no no I'm not I'm a ballplayer I'm not a

role model don't don't be like me no that's I interpreted that as yo I am

an [ __ ] oh no no nothing but that he said I'm him or Charles Barkley when the

commercial said I'm not a role model it means I'm not trying to set an example for you little [ __ ] to follow do not

be like me I'm doing me I'm doing what I want to do that's what I that's what it's always meant that's why all right well can I give another perspective that

maybe I don't agree with but another lens and point of view else we'll just argue about you yeah all right I spent

my entire journey I spent my entire life just focusing on basketball we know how

hard it is to get to the NBA it's one of the hardest things in the world and then be successful NBA be one of the best players I've only focused my whole life

on shooting a [ __ ] basketball I finally get here and now y'all asking me to be a politician I don't understand

none of that [ __ ] [ __ ] y'all know I feel you shut up my drink that's no that's not what you're wrong right there I mean

I appreciate make a fence to shut up in dribble or I didn't want to be mornings

right now you just make now yours taking [ __ ] yeah joke that was corny now you

can't call like an [ __ ] or a [ __ ] no I'm then now you sitting there watching the whole relationship and how

he took Kobe under his wing that a lot of people in NBA didn't even know about like this you can't like I can't that

person can't be an [ __ ] like that he took somebody who clearly was gonna be the heir to the throne and say yo if you

ever need anything mo home your character your character is presented by who you are to the field not who you are

to the 1% that reminds you of you like how everybody can't believe you replied

to that was shut up and dribble cuz that's what that is no no no shut up and dribble was a

response to someone that has an understanding of what's going on and wants to be vocal and should be vocal

and is setting a great example and then someone replied back with he should shut up in dribble after making really great

points oh so you think in the distinction I'm somebody else saying dribble and know the actual subject

saying I'm saying a person who said I've only focused on basketball my entire life and when you're asking me

these questions I don't know them he's saying to himself I'm not talking about that listen that's a whole different point

than someone that has a really good argument in a really good platform and says something and then someone on Fox

News says shut up and dribble that's a completely different point and you know it I don't know it that's your opinion

and I think it's no that's a fact you know that's not a cannot be proven that is your opinion

Tony is no no I just said it's laid out facts I didn't lay out any way down facts and you formulated an opinion from

there just like I just listened to those same facts and have a different opinion I'm sorry so I just simple it's the same

no y'all talk for man long can I get a word it is the same thing as when ASAP Rocky was on the [ __ ] UM BT Awards

red carpet I think that was and they asked him about what was going on with black people and going to jail and we

was getting shot and he said I'm a rapper I don't know nothing about that I'm not a activist I'm not a political

figure I'm not none of that I rap don't ask me about none of that and he got killed right now right now

your paraphrase my apartment partner was much different rightfully so by the way

in my opinion okay can I stop wrong about a star interrupting me because

you're wrong about the ASEP so what did is that he got killed because ASAP went on there and said darling I'm wavy being

Soho I don't give a [ __ ] about none of that [ __ ] [ __ ] all that he didn't simply say you I don't want to talk about it he gave a really ignorant response that's a

different way different I only interrupted you because you just made a point that's not true okay Joe if you're not if you're an

athlete look at that statement but what Michael Jordan said was ignorant it may

not be the same level of ignorance the Republicans buy shoes to is ignorant that is ignorant for sure if it's not

said that in efficient if he said that I don't know what y'all arguing this is nomsanto if he said that they were different on

the bus they were there on the bus amongst his teammates and that got out yeah that's not so like I didn't he

didn't he didn't go on a public platform and say that dad if I'm in the locker room privately it's not ignorant hell

it's ignorant nobody but but it's not but you wouldn't know is what I'm saying that he didn't being ignorant it's like

when you come out and you tell you by a year [ __ ] that I'm now I'm not do that's ignorant but now if I'm in the privacy or what I

think is the privacy of my lock and roll my boys and I say some [ __ ] if we're gonna say that that's ignorant then

everybody even people that looked like they're doing the right thing in a public or ignorant because nobody's perfect but well you're right know about

that gets out we would call these people room we would that but Mike but in that

in that moment Mike handily right he's seven for you in the league I don't know about politics why would I get involved in it when you want to sell sneakers no

he so sneakers his first year Joe what are you talking about no so why couldn't say something what what is he gonna say

Joe he's a twenty twenty year old kid what does he know about poverty nothing and that's that because I don't know

about that I wouldn't even know what to say about politics like I've spent master right here in live over focusing on one thing in my entire life I think

it's amazing that LeBron is funny that in mind that the mic people after the doc keep saying it to yo Mike was

focused on one thing it please and they can went to sneaker meetings what are you talking about serving one cause it

wasn't all bad no no he built a whole basketball tip from the bag on the Space Jam set it wasn't just all not a and B

anybody know this was years after he was already who he was though and when do we ever say Mike was not self-serving he's

not when the father do we ever say that he's self-serving cool what's the [ __ ] problem when they said that he

would oh well I don't know I think Michaels he's not self-serving Mike does a lot of charity [ __ ] that I'm talking

[ __ ] right now I don't really care no we were having a point of debate here oh I don't care all right to close that this is where I

stand on that that [ __ ] now I this is why I don't look at celebrities for my political views or anything amongst that

type of [ __ ] and don't expect them to is it great when we find people like LeBron who have a real great point of view and

a platform to share it and not just play basketball hell yeah do I expect every single athlete and

celebrity to act like LeBron James no and nor do I want them to cuz I don't think everyone's is smart and articulate

as LeBron James when it comes to those type of topics I agree with you completely Rory but I think in this

particular case it was pretty egregious and he probably could have said something or at

least homeboy would say wild flagrant racist [ __ ] like he could have easily said I don't rock with do okay so here's

the thing I realized ordinate self-serving myk's myk's I'll say my into the dudes campaign like he still he

still tried to help in his way but he just wasn't vocal he kicked he gave money to support the dual grants

campaign he gave money he just didn't want to switch up which one was sweet which one is worth know about politics

which one is worth more the the money or the vocal support cuz dude did end up

depends he did it depends and I read an article undefeated I think it was they

said that he the records showed he donated to his second campaign at that particular campaign but the dude grant

yeah whatever his name was pathogenic for Michael I guess in a way he said that we don't know if Michael would have

said something if he would have changed the votes so I'm not mad at Michael there's all smoke and mirrors anyways

this is just like when he a 28 year old kid or a young man to speak about

politics and he doesn't know about politics I think it's just not smart yeah except you don't have to know about

you don't have to know about politics to be against races yeah no Rachel yo

you're right it's not even right now it's not even about now get up then say something and they start questioning me and I'm like I don't know just vote for

him like throwing Walmart listen I'm not even saying you wrong but I've been saying for man long in this podcast boy

if social media was out Mike would have a different perception about him and his dark for me that I mean it it proved

that to me like these are some things that he would add a real difficult time with had social media been been

prevalent but what he would have moved he would have moved different and adjusted injustice he lived in a world where you didn't have to give an opinion

on every [ __ ] thing no matter what he lived in a world where basketball is all he had to [ __ ] focus on yeah like

it's his influence with people have adjusting to the times and adjusted to how know lots of all your platforms that

was may ever change the times how could you take [ __ ] you talking about yeah I I know you

joking keep it light but yeah people have all adjusted to the times you can't say how someone would have acted in a different era because they would have

adjusted especially if you have some type of greatness in you and understanding he adjusted to the sneaker

culture I'll tell you one thing I think he might maybe would have realized how important his voice was at that time and I was shooting a bail for it but it's

like it's like how come you haven't uh as a somewhat celebrity put your name to

a candidate yet like you don't [ __ ] know I'm going to okay are you gonna do a press conference in my time I found a

boys club okay do some [ __ ] all right y'all year bring it in

what I will say about that Jordan doc you know watching that Phoenix team and watching Berkeley like just changes my

perspective again on the dream on Berkeley no please it does a little bit a little bit even changement no like

very much canceled off the bar no is that a change a little bit it shouldn't even had that thought to begin with no

no no that's not true come on I oh that is true it's true can I respond no you know it's still true

all right well let me just give my retort okay I heard Charles Barkley say on get up - Mike greenie that the one

thing he regrets they were talking about his uh he said the one thing that he

regrets is that he didn't have his team ready to play Game one of the finals he

said that that moment was too big for him the same way that the game won against Detroit was maybe too big for

Michael when they were up when they lost to Detroit he said he should have had his team more prepared to play and more

ready for the moment and when he said that I thought a draymond Green because the one thing that German is

highlighting is hey you can't downplay my impact to my team and what we do on

the court I am the one that holds everybody accountable I'm the one that uh that is responsible for the tempers

flaring up on the court mine you have to hold my own temper in check but yeah I hold people in check here and I have my

team ready to play every day so that is the one thing that I will give dream on would have many rings he has over

Barkley is no and ready to blow up Charles body

Charles Barkley boo Phoenix was all done today all of them admit to that that being dream on true I no no no no I'm saying

how do you know Barkley wasn't doing his I'm only taking barkleyz barkleyz word

for I don't know no Barkley he said that but you're taking you're taking one game Joe Barkley well that was the game that

probably cost them the series even though they lost all for two but losing Game one yeah but that was probably the

one and my thing is Barkley was all it and he's acknowledging that way later

Wailea it's no way after this easier to do that was the one guy on that team

that was the guy he was the guy that if they won it was on his shoulders it if

they lost it was on his shoulders if you know Barkley said something in the media they were gonna highlight it like so Barkley was all that he was the focal

point of that team he was the best well not the best player I hear Mike was definitely the best player here but he was the MVP that year and he you know he

was just and he was like the offensive juggernaut for the team as well so it's like you know I get the whole dream on I

don't I don't downplay dream I dream on definitely has a major role in those championships but you know okay before

we go do you guys this is a new thing there - Mike would average close to 50 I do in this area absolute possession no

sinners I don't hand check easily I do I do easily um that's all I got y'all got

anything else all right no have boys oh yeah wait looked like he

was was writing in his head no when I was trying to give you all bars man y'all wasn't I mean no one really

appreciating the free bars I was giving you off I figured I'd take a little break well y'all y'all mister bar so we

got throw beat on no not not we good we good I got a little something you

worried I'd love to you're Rory verse right now no I meant for you Oh for me I have instrumentals oh no no no no it's

fine please Punch instrumental in here um this just and the baby said all of

that cap about the Vegas driver all right good um Wendy's is out of burgers Oh what

else is happening funny shut up cut Kurt Loder is not 75 years old today

why such liars wait for real it might be holy [ __ ] Kurt Loder is 75 that's crazy

no that's nuts but okay happy birthday to uh Chris Brown and Rory

happy birthday to Rory happy birthday today man Kourtney Kim and Kourtney Kim happy

birthday give who Kourtney camp pal happy birthday Kourtney camp yeah

[ __ ] a couple of people hit mean it was like after looking at Rory's birthday Instagram comments we have to

redo the industry rankings he had the whole industry and I saw Richard Jefferson in there and that being the

whole industry is true come on man you gotta give it up for Jefferson just

grabs and Joe opposes [ __ ] Taco Tuesday photo today and then has more

than the industry this coming Tuesday is

coming it is yeah any of you guys wish Rory a happy birthday yesterday like y'all hit him one no I don't think

so I didn't hit him I commented on his picture home welcome to the club and it's all downhill from here no but I don't particularly care for my

friend oh yeah I didn't hit him I figured his foam I let his phone breathe my phone was being his home was off the

hook yeah his phone yeah yeah yeah yesterday was literally no different than any

quarantine Day event nah yeah remotely close parks I started up after the fall

of cabal parts one through ten I did start a dev I'm only halfway through the

first episode the boyfriend looks really happy about going to work

I watched the child murder sting on HBO's it's really good did you get sad

yeah yeah that was that it was it's really good though all right man we look at the [ __ ] out

here keep us in your prayers lord knows we need to be here until next time life is a series of moments and moments pass

so please make this one last as if it's all we have until next time adios

arrivederci so long so long goodbye hasta LaVista

I'm saying goodbye to my podcast people a person on the phone I'll call you right back person on the phone there's a

person on the phone it was a person on the phone no I know no oh yeah no um

yeah man we'll be back on Saturday to talk 50 versus Snoop and much much more

[Laughter] look at the cliffhanger no you guys this

week no I'm so mad that I didn't get to ask you all about things said to you during a verbal dispute that ticked you

off but it shouldn't have I want to know that so Saturday I'm coming to ask where

why am i stupid cuz it's just I know whatever you say is gonna be some tough

[ __ ] yeah I know I got mine already up ya know me all the way off but whatever

you another thing no we're not doing

that y'all got any parting words you're good now we'll get into the Khaled IG Live / whenever any time a girl is added

in to a story how you look guilty you party man keep all that is please save on you bought now Rory's these are

all I'm ready for from already for that talk buddy and much much more

y'all be good at the enjoy your week be safe we will talk to y'all on Saturday

the fact that is not an older woman voice singing it is nuts to me changes

things of it damn you you're a freak

that was a bottle she a [ __ ] Angela says course I now but those be the ones that

are with the games that's what I was about there's a story floating around about uh

the heat winning the championship and Gabrielle Union attending the game and seeing D waves wife at the time without

D Wade and saying hey let your husband know I'm a huge fan is gangsta that's

what's on for the day man we will see we will talk to y'all on Saturday [Laughter]

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