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Episode 346

He Did What?

Joe Budden Podcast Episode 346, “He Did What?,” released May 22, 2020. The guys recap the latest Verzuz battle between Ludacris and Nelly and also look forward to potential battles. The guys also pod about other podcast, giving perspective on the "Call Her Daddy podcast vs Bar Stool sports and the Joe Rogan podcast joining Spotify, Billboard vs everybody, and Parks tells us what's important. Sleeper Picks Joe | Adrian Marcel - "NOWHERE" Rory | Nyah Grace - "Sooner or Later" Mal | Eto - "Beloved" Parks | Reason - "Pop Sh*t" (ft. ScHoolboy Q) Full transcript and searchable timestamps below.

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  • 0:01

    [Laughter]

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    microphone check one two what is this whatever so does it save on 346 that

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    damn you shits move slow welcome to episode 346 of the Joe button podcast I'm your humble gracious

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    grateful and highly favored host Joe button here with a few of my nearest and dearest we are back together again

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    a in the same no I'm excited about that

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    I did took a 40-minute shower through someone looked around in a closet what

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    i'ma give them had to impress us Oh comfy but casual polka dot side the

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    fellas are gonna dig the polka dots feels good out there mall is here parks

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    is here Rory is here Erikson is here say Vaughn is here Alex the greatest here Brandon is here I think rim is here how

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    is everyone doing come on come on don't be bashful

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    don't be bashful bashful I'm doing bashfully it was overwhelming to be in

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    the city today was it my first time in two months Saul 34th Street didn't even recognize I didn't even peep the velvet

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    dad had Rory gave suede with a hint of pink nobody touch me and anybody leave

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    me alone you're just worried what are you doing

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    [ __ ] knock you out yo yo look at what we did look at the yellow accents you

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    gave me now you can't talk to me right now me yes are you tired of it quick

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    back on the backhand miss it come on it's me don't know what that is but it's

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    flavor the stripe goes down his leg

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    we're running the cash game like neither

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    awesome yo I saw a poster I post a quick interview into the snap of black seed

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    oil because my mom's came and brought me some black seed oil and necessity it's really good it's really good

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    what's that for easy for you smoke yeah well I'm trying to not smoke but people kept telling me how horrible the black seed oil taste this ridding your body of

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    toxins I put it in a smoothie and I couldn't finish it I like that [ __ ]

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    I've been going at as you like more than I'm supposed to how you OD on the Black

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    Sea yeah but anyway so I post the picture the Black Sea here come Rory in my dams aren't you a hipster wait wait you are

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    one where he calling me a hipster for anything and he's got a hostage her pool stripe down his leg don't have it say

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    unto me again you look good dose the print thanks man we're good you do I thought was a cool Adidas tracksuit you do all right we

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    checked on par save on you good and Ericsson you good of course all right so everybody's good yeah all

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    right scream man scream man's good right let's get right to it then let's

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    do it Luda Nellie the clash listen man

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    I'm here today I'm here today what you want me to do uh isn't that much that I can add to this I'll be honest because I

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    missed a good chunk of this okay I went back and reviewed the tape because I couldn't watch it with the sound that bad I I waited it out

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    I mean I have much else to do but it was not ideal in the beginning for sure it was tough to get through I happen to

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    know the songs which most people did which made it like alright I see what he's playing we just can't hear it yeah

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    um but I was torn apart piece by piece by the timeline well I I had Nellie up

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    5-1 in the first six rounds which I was told I should never speak about music again you know what and then I won let

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    me get that oh I had him I had him win 13 to 7 if my math is bad I had one tie but there's it's a it's a stark

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    difference because I feel like if you like party if you like partying with women or if you're with women they are

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    picking the Nelly records that's not true a lot of times they were I saw the chicks going right for Luda

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    yeah I didn't know Luda had the sauce like that it was one-sided on on all the comments I saw um when did when did you

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    guys tune in I tuned in probably after the first four or four joints and then

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    it was kind of like I think Nellie's wife I kept going in and out it was terrible sitting and I stopped watching

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    but then I look I went back in just read to uh the tracklist little one

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    he's certainly that I don't think anyone's here to debate who won but some of the rounds of it being a twenty and

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    oh oh now let's not forget about it man don't let me answer that question you asked me are you gonna talk it's a

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    podcast wait am i victim shaming it

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    seems it's that way to me my fault oh no I had victim damn what about say oh uh I

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    tuned in from the start I tuned in when they were each on their own separate lives waiting for each other that's always fun it's awkward

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    some kind of my face and the way it goes for me I always go to one person's live and maybe have like a hundred thousand

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    waiting I'm like oh they about to kill and then I go to the other person's live and it'd be like three hundred thousand

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    like oh [ __ ] tough night for you buddy Nellie was giving us the new Drake album

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    us what is going on in here um and then they started then Ellie's Wi-Fi was

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    horrendous boy did I enjoy the chat at that moment it was really really really bad they say

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    the weather was bad out there but so I left it when they started talking about maybe having to reschedule it yeah let's

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    not skip over that the weather does not affect Eliza I my wife I was working during sandy would you go white

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    privilege okay well he has money privilege because he has a lot of money that Wi-Fi should work in his home yeah

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    yeah but I empathize because I empathize because when your Wi-Fi is messed up

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    like once we unplug the thing and plug it back in if that don't effectively

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    change things there's nothing we can do calling Brian we kind of still don't

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    know how bad it is no it's not like something that normal people can look at and just fix he's got to get jokes no he

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    had no idea cuz he was dancing gasps oh my god it was horrible so I left and

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    then 45 minutes later I'd see that they still are my oh [ __ ] they did it and then I to him back in but at that point

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    it wasn't good it wasn't good for my god Nelly yeah when I got back and ludus

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    hole I used to be a radio personality definitely flourished during this entire use a better host and through all the

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    [ __ ] with Nelly's Wi-Fi he was able to kind of radio personality us for some

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    time I didn't really need the new Luda uh yeah I didn't need it but you know

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    starting with it with the Cosby why your generation behavior lulamoon quite the opposite that's my generation we love

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    Lua and know why you

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    yeah my bad maybe maybe you're right I didn't need the new Luda when he played

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    it I didn't need it twice I don't think the verses never a good place I didn't need I didn't need to be ran back in

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    just in case I didn't hear it is not the police for or live shows in your music look here it is the live show it's kind

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    of the same idea we're here to honor you we don't [ __ ] with you today that's kind

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    of this whole music thing don't give us some new [ __ ] oh [ __ ] we love that and that's the thing too listen I am done

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    trying to predict the winner here only the fans one like I'm done ever trying

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    to predict a winner two verses because what I learned boy did this Nelly and Luther [ __ ] teach me teach me a good

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    lesson it taught me a good lesson there and much like just trying to become a

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    rapper and a competitive one at that the this versus [ __ ] has a lot to do with a

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    lot of other variables outside of your catalogue yeah and this battle

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    highlighted that for me and what I mean by that is yeah and when I started

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    watching my focus totally got off of the music it didn't matter ever anybody who participates in this your catalog is a

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    pressure line yeah so I mean I feel like the same thing what would you just say

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    in Shannon fries she didn't talk about Jordan I feel like that's anybody that participates in this a lot of us

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    shouldn't really say nothing about them well no but you can still because yeah

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    you know they call it a celebration mall celebration do you think I think yeah that's not even cold versus it's a

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    celebration but it takes on the personality of the people involved yeah at the only time I didn't see it be a

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    battle was Erica and Jill like they've all felt like battles me whether they're

  • 10:18

    being competitive and loving each other or not it still felt like a battle maybe it's with hip-hop more this is just a

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    big braggadocious fest oh for sure you know it's just cool you know what I do when Ludacris was an active MC mmm

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    he still is work he played new records with chance but he hasn't been actively

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    yeah no no I don't I'm not saying this as a slight please I get it um but when

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    Luther was he's only one of the biggest in Ranchos movie in a long time in his heyday um ludis Luda was one of those I

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    won't say he was Busta Rhymes esque yes funnies videos were the video always

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    great he made character he did ship with his voice he had party anthems also uh

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    to the busted thing he actually really raps in all his singles yeah yeah like

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    he's not just doing the single thing he's really rapping thanks so as an MC you know I always see

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    Luda that way because that's who he was to me outside of his amazing abilities and Nelly in

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    his rapper image has always appeared cooler to me the band a the tank top the

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    Jersey halfway off that different the Bob into yeah yeah all of it was cool it

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    was a it was a mix of I told you that [ __ ] was real popular in New York yeah um so it was just a good mixture to see

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    that vibe in New York it was cooler wasn't so over-the-top um it was just

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    about engaging women right all of it and that's just how I've always pictured it

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    outside of Nelly may be crossing over more they probably both cross over but

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    Nelly probably crossed over more in different ways yeah yeah and Kyle so this ludus had standing to do that

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    Lulla that was up there in that battle was much cooler that was

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    a whole different that was today Luda that's movie star 1520 million a movie

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    star Luda that's yeah I used to do radio know how to do this to you now jamie foxx

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    sometimes gear to interview and just show you he could do everything yeah that was this Luna on display with

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    multi-millionaire skin oh my god that always does it for me when they when the multimillionaires have skin that we

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    can't get that that we can't get it all even know about pause well I'm saying

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    somebody's skin is reflective of how life is going well I know I think it's fair that you gave up how you loved

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    Nellie's image and now loot His image and you're just how these two men look

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    and I appreciate yeah that balance that's I know that has nothing to do

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    with nothing but for me this battle highlight it how important that is Nellie was tipsy a little I was gonna

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    say I think you're drinking a little Nelly was tipsy a little bit Luda was all the way focused that [ __ ] Gucci

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    link that like he just he lets you know a lot minimally the Atlanta influences

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    everything from that to the the throwback Hawks Jersey like it's the

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    other stuff you can perfectly picked afro you can't find a hair out of place

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    you cannot find a hair out of place so those are the things that I mean look at

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    Nelly man Nellie's having a good time Nelly is my guy and listen listen trying

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    to bag the girl in the same studio that Nelly is in is a task I would imagine

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    yeah it is a task I would imagine but in this setting right here cuz Nelly is

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    super cool shopping I asked my guy but in this framing it just for me ah

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    [ __ ] it was I cannot say it was a tornado watch [ __ ] with him drinking

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    a little too much the Wi-Fi not work in the sound so now like that dance might hit if I could properly hear the record

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    now it's just where the one is [Laughter]

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    yes that's all it was but what the [ __ ] up part is and this is this is what's [ __ ] up Nelly was on live the

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    whole day with zero issues ha I just yet the whole day he was prepping

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    he was in that same studio doing speaker checks mic checks playing out a

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    different [ __ ] he tested so for that to go that bad I felt bad cuz it was

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    perfect all day somebody photoshopped a picture of cutting all the wires but if

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    you also love Jesus that's cool too what

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    I noticed got it to your point of the other factors I noticed megha singles don't usually age very well

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    super mega singles that play in Macy's for six years just don't hit well in

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    these battles there's such a moment um I think ride with me beat Saturday by

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    far but the consensus in the comments and on the timeline was not that like there's a bogan I think they're bugging

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    but I could see alright that stories you tell you what ride with me by Nellie Beach Saturday by Luda it does that was

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    not the consensus maybe it was the sound or maybe cuz that song was played out so much I just think a lot of like

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    the hope Nellie shits on her just so it was essentially a record snitch get it no now it's like now is really cheesy

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    though what must be the money like no money screaming actually was hard [ __ ] but 2020 back then it was like

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    okay it was dope it was cheesy there okay so it was cheesy but it was hard I

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    love it yeah that's my record it's still one that right listen Saturday never was

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    oh no I was never that was one of yeah

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    that was never I know who was requesting that from the sarado a better record to me I'm with me on that one yeah what you

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    should opinions from the timeline you should take your take your opinions to the timeline like yeah I don't here's

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    what the timelines though the [ __ ] they know about music that is very true they also took moneymaker over AI that's why

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    once my mentions we're full I was like oh I see you I'm dealing with here no never the case will moneymaker be Luda

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    wouldn't say that yeah but moneymaker was a huge record so I get it it's a

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    great record but it's not beating yeah [Music]

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    yeah you guys kind of did the reverse career thing he did the personality radio talk show [ __ ] and then was a

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    rapper you did rapper then radio Luda don't get enough you don't get enough credit you know he's not spoken about

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    enough and he's probably not placed in his proper spot in any one to top rapper list that's a fact I completely agree I

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    walked away from that saying that too as well that's always been affecting me his pocket of flow was [ __ ] impeccable

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    yeah addiction pause parks is correct

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    though because there's a lot of rappers that I think that plays a huge part of why Drake is so successful yeah hold to clearly hear them one top

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    now but that's a big factor in hip-hop when you can clearly understand every word they're saying it's a bigger factor

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    than people give it credit for that you can understand what they say like completely clear understand everything

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    you know there's real like emcees that do the rap [ __ ] that it's tough to catch

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    everything simply by how they're rapping not cuz the metamaterial name one if you

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    real name one if you real name one name one if you real name one is real name

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    one if you real I think most I think most would would be bigger in the public

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    eye had he been easier to understand we understand him because we listen to so much most deaf we can pick up on that

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    type of voice inflection but to the first person listening the most may be hard to catch okay it's also what you

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    saying that most would be a bigger artist if people can understand it eat the masses yeah like a lot of

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    rappers I don't think his content is I think there's more so it's cons I mean

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    Kendrick right now has similar content and is huge yeah yeah but Kendrick also plays with a lot of different metaphors

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    so most most did bunch of different voices too

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    I'm using him as a comparison to the next level Luda has that too Luna is one

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    of those rappers that kind of covered you know we're doing a podcast hey so

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    we're doing a podcast

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    up behind get out of here Jesus you know

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    you don't have to answer your phone [Music] there is the red button this is just don't touch me mash all the best

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    do not touch you are a sick [ __ ] man

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    what is wrong to see the sickest you

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    know you know like when you call somebody names that didn't say nothing like I didn't say nothing no no but I

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    could tell about what she was saying you know no so most death yeah but most def

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    and can't drink my tea I was about to go deep with him I uh mos def and Kendrick what yeah I don't even like that I don't

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    even like that since starting that way we're talking about content and it being successful in

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    the masses and I think they had similar content that's all that was was so quote-unquote Underground is content

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    that you know it wasn't I don't think he produces he produced content for the masses I don't think he no records

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    oh no because the underground is is the audience for it without a doubt but it's masses like global like I don't think

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    that's a big deal back then yeah we gotta get to the bottom emotion Tyler sick to this rope

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    call Tyler no I think aren't they doing

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    [ __ ] while we're doing shows together as Blackstone yet it would show the thing yeah I think there's supposed to be a

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    there's been rumors of a Blackstar album produced which I think they announced that would be dope oh wow that's

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    exciting it's been on the radar for a while okay well you guys have any final thoughts

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    about ludacris versus nelly uh it was great much closer yeah it was fine just

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    going you know again like the best part of these verses to me is just reliving the moments when those album those

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    records actually dropped yeah you can kind of remember the time we were at what was going on yeah so that's always

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    fun tended to see like where these artists are today like where Luda is today you know I mean like box-office

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    movies ya know I mean doing this thing so dope dope to watch it definitely

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    involved a box office movie [ __ ]

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    movies that was Tyrese in the comments I

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    didn't seem when I was really upset I was waiting for the yo I thought we did this as a family but like yo I could have been there and

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    very we could have done Tyrese in Luda personally I know that and then Nelly put that diamond trophy up so that

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    changes things a bit diamond trophy

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    we both got Grammys but this out I don't

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    know that Fast & Furious franchise that might go with Diamond especially now

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    with every fast and furious ticket like any time you go see Fast and Furious you stream i'll lose album I can see it I

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    can see that yeah what technically bundling everything

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    bundling album with Hobbes versa Vin Diesel

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    ah there's only not because everybody can't play the bundle game like that's why it's not fair everybody can't know

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    the bundle game is a game reserved for 4% 5% maybe superstar nice it's baby the

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    bundles that you don't know what you're getting with it like if I buy a t-shirt and the CD cuz I want both of those as a

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    fan totally cool with that it'd be like the blind bundles like I just strained

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    your album and now because some other website you own can counter stream it

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    now you have 500,000 streams of 200,000 streams yeah that's the [ __ ] to me

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    it's only to me Inori had posted that he

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    was with DMX when Swiss called said Eminem was with it Eminem versus DMX

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    mm-hmm I read some about that but my

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    first I wouldn't mind either of them inverses I just don't know if I want them to go against each other my initial

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    thought was that was it who the [ __ ] wants to see that

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    then my very next thought was actually this might make a little more sense than

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    I thought it kind of does they came out at the same time there's a good match they both have kind of dark yeah

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    introspective record it's it's a good matchup some of which were huge records okay how does em if we tailor it to em

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    playing more of the stuff that would go better against X sure but is em going

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    with his biggest records or the better battle because that would change the opinion of what being a good man a

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    corner of em is Royce so and I I doubt that Royce lets em play the real Slim

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    Shady in a vs. battle I also don't think that em would I mean say what yeah I

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    kind of grew up our state I don't think Emma would want to play that against X he won't play Slim Shady I mean maybe he

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    will maybe he won't but I don't think that hi my name is oh but the real Slim

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    Shady is one of his big his records I'm saying he won't play that or shouldn't I play that I don't

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    think Emma would play love the way you lie but now I'm not mad at hi my name is coming on the more I thought about it

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    like mmm is more than prepared to do

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    this he has the catalog to do it when you think of 20 joints in your brain from him that sound like they go

  • 27:43

    in that battle that's a tough matchup for exit it it's Eminem of court it's a

  • 27:49

    tough matchup right anyway yeah but that's still X I just definitely so I

  • 27:54

    don't know who wins then I don't know who wins that at all and I don't know who's cool both are cool cuz for me the

  • 28:01

    person that is sunning the other person and the other person is and is acknowledging the Sun yet at you - some

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    points for me and I never know that until the chute comes on yeah I hope

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    they figure out a way to do it though meaning I don't want to watch anymore Instagram shitty audio I'm gonna say if

  • 28:22

    it's X and M we're gonna need a team for both sides two people that have no interest in the internet social media

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    what the people want they just want to mind their business and make music you need a whole tech team there there's

  • 28:37

    companies that do like web production [ __ ] that they should be hiring at this point well they were saying that Swizz

  • 28:44

    and Tim were sending out verses kits to each of these people for the set up with all these instructions awesome I mean

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    that's cool but that's it hasn't worked great across the board man they need to find out who I was

  • 28:55

    setting up Dean Isis [ __ ] but this is one it's one yeah it's cool when you

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    plug in the same no like when you need nice setup times to split it everybody

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    takes everybody Instagram starts to

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    [ __ ] [ __ ] up yeah I also saw them floating around the idea of 1/12 vs. jagged edge where do you

  • 29:21

    gentlemen stand on it me and Daniel from division did that on eyedropper name

  • 29:29

    dropper yes the my cab drivers my cat Oh Rory

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    the name dropper Doh what he's out there

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    all right in your mind do you picture Rory dropping a few names out there when he's out it off last lap just just the

  • 29:48

    cool on what name am i dropping Daniel from Sean Sean who is a generic name I

  • 30:06

    thought you knew you can say it if you know you know it'd be crazy to bring it up and be like oh I can't talk about it Fanny who brought it up I'm John [ __ ]

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    around we're good uh yeah we did an impromptu jagged-edged 112 before they announced the [ __ ] and

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    it was a really good battle like really good I don't I don't know who won I like I like jagged edge more but once well

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    probably has more with with features 112 is a tough yes yeah like the voices 112

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    is coming ahead ahead with a victory yeah better records for sure yeah absolutely I just like jagged edge

  • 30:50

    vocally Swiss said something when he was uh on the live with Timbaland said some

  • 30:57

    about all he was talking to his wife about Mariah smoked and then that's all

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    he said wherever Silesia was implied

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    y'all shut up yes but be nice

  • 31:15

    yes but be nice is it what is this gonna happen during that's a dub if Mariah

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    just played Christmas [ __ ] in July that would be the funniest thing [Laughter] that would be a very Mariah thing to do

  • 31:37

    it would but in like the Santa getup that she does on on Good Morning America every year yeah I love Alicia Keys and I

  • 31:44

    wouldn't want to see her go against Mariah Carey anyone against Mariah stuff I saw people talking marry Mariah I

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    don't know if that's a really good matchup though music-wise they can't they make different music I get the idea

  • 31:59

    other one I don't know if anyone's seen Mary Mary's in the Mariah class for sure

  • 32:05

    in this vs. thing yeah I just don't think it had along physically I don't think it's a good matchup but people who

  • 32:12

    just got to leave Mary alone that's huge mariah alone there's people that marry Mariah Traco y'all laughed at

  • 32:20

    me but they had a little list floating around about Keyshia Cole versus somebody Ashanti Keyshia Cole versus

  • 32:27

    Ashanti but I didn't know let's - I gotta be honest I wasn't sure why y'all

  • 32:33

    laughed at me when I said Keyshia Cole I wasn't joking I don't even remember when you brought it up but I'm not saying it

  • 32:39

    last when it was all my John Legend versus somebody's I said I didn't like that I rather see John Legend verse skis

  • 32:45

    you Cole oh yeah I think he probably said in a funny way okay joints I think a few people might

  • 32:53

    not know she had big records her - auntie make sense so I would like it

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    I'll shut you got some big ass records yeah LL said he would battle nas I'm just I'm

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    giving you guys the news

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    I'm just like see that's he did it again I didn't say nothin is y'all I said I'm sleep Hui ru

  • 33:23

    but I didn't say nothin you cannot sleep on LL Cool J's catalog list I think

  • 33:29

    anyone sleeping on oh yeah hello gorgeous don't try to gauge my myface bark stop

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    trying to look at my face is giving up who wins in

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    big la verse here oh I'm trying to think

  • 33:48

    what would match up to that but Joe and I are the only two people on earth that love zero only cuz I remember actually

  • 33:56

    like in the end in the club when hezron came off you got your heads round a good reaction I hate it directly but it got a

  • 34:03

    great reaction I think that might be malls big heads from yagan has sprung like getting open off a chair that's

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    true you're just swinging at anything

  • 34:15

    that come across the place I wasn't ever even out up right no but it doesn't get sprung no that is a bag the quick

  • 34:21

    two-week open that that's a bag don't try to be dismissive to that that

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    is a bag no and don't act like you above that bag yeah that's your back for sure Joe moves them in in the first two weeks

  • 34:33

    ah I'd be wondering with all about you and your bag to say I'm in that same bag

  • 34:39

    with you that's not the same bag is that that is no no I'm saying no I'm saying

  • 34:46

    the two weeks sprung bag is a mirage and then you boogie afterward I stick him

  • 34:51

    stay so that's not the same bag bag

  • 34:57

    especially disagree with that well what is York I'm not mad at that cuz we've

  • 35:02

    been guessing at your bag for about five years in heaven kind whatever it is I'm sure no one out there will be able to

  • 35:08

    relate or identify to it you got me twisted there's a lot of people that relate to my bed [ __ ] see me head no no

  • 35:16

    I'm gonna see it it's a very small very small goon eclectic bunch yes very very

  • 35:22

    smooth it's Underground it's very guys with the most death of that bag very respectful we're very respectful we just move secret society

  • 35:29

    all y'all ever ask is trust not so much of a secret we just move with an old-school we just don't cuz now you're

  • 35:35

    acting funny if you don't talk about everything that you're doing with women mmm guys asked me yo so what you in

  • 35:40

    short everybody listen that's our business to I can't give out her business oh wow ask if that was a sounds

  • 35:52

    like now you're standing tall yeah I don't huh business out there like that so how do you know about your Eskimo brothers

  • 35:57

    then that's why I'm so surprised me I'll bring up names cuz I don't know I don't be asking these dudes with a bill I don't ax women would even with this is

  • 36:05

    Mito it's never been brought to you know

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    all right nothing's ever been brought to you sleep

  • 36:29

    with hmm why would you even bring that conversation to my phone I don't care bout usually okay have you ever checked

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    up on cuz guys are weird Oh y'all mister cool no way I could tell

  • 36:43

    what a weird [ __ ] mystical no no okay but you've never asked a dude about a

  • 36:49

    chick you've never even been fooled by a fake cool you cool man you never been

  • 36:58

    tricked oh I mean I'm so my when it comes to as far as dating women like some type of witness got it I mean some some fake

  • 37:05

    cool dude you I thought he was cool and he finally he's a clown but dudes I'm

  • 37:10

    just asking yo yo so what you that's not a conversation to a man I don't even understand how men do that well maybe we

  • 37:17

    thought we were rooting for you guys I just wanted to check in you and shorty

  • 37:23

    know oh wait this is a good time to talk

  • 37:30

    about what I wanted to ask y'all last week what I wanted to ask you gentlemen

  • 37:36

    to tell me about a time where you were the next in line guy I know what you

  • 37:44

    saying but explain it more for our listeners sounds like a trick what I haven't tried to trick you buddy go say

  • 37:50

    a train oh not to be confused with

  • 37:57

    physically being next in line which could still be a trick to

  • 38:06

    participate in that stab of joke

  • 38:12

    bringing the defender to meek the next-in-line guy the next-in-line guy

  • 38:18

    meaning we've all heard the phrase dad before girl breaks up with you she already knows the next dude that she's

  • 38:24

    gonna be intimate with 4 or court or be romantic with right I found but we never

  • 38:30

    hear from the guy perspect not all the time let me think that we talk about every woman every woman so this is not

  • 38:36

    all the time no frequently there is a community that feels like that right yeah yeah we don't agree with Whitney

  • 38:43

    every woman's not the same we're talking to one community we don't mean any

  • 38:50

    offense it [ __ ] that people in general kind of know who the next person they're

  • 38:55

    gonna sleep with is listen man I just purchased a WNBA hoodie man I don't want

  • 39:00

    no some open know whatever you see Kobe

  • 39:07

    wore what let's see I rap for cold meat

  • 39:22

    so I stand in that whatever I'm quite [ __ ] for that I'm here I'm with ya I

  • 39:27

    stand on that damn how many guys is that the case with that what we're like you

  • 39:33

    stand in your your support your fandom of that person like Kolbe is that for me

  • 39:39

    French is that for me for me hope is that for me over there

  • 39:45

    mm-hmm that's probably in the list POC is that for me yes yes Friday

  • 39:53

    Brian it'll is Mike well we know that well shocker joy head Jordan and Jackson Tyson beat

  • 40:01

    Tyson take your pick all the mics be no don't do that

  • 40:07

    not gonna fight for your man's Queen music oh be like Beyonce no be like

  • 40:14

    Michael B Jordan no cities like Michael scarface new

  • 40:23

    scarf yeah the new scarf to the box

  • 40:33

    editor oh they're a troll yes that's a troll that's not that's not true dude I'm in a age where I gotta have that

  • 40:40

    rose yes except when I first read that job this real names like no okay didn't

  • 40:45

    I think some other report about about LeBron about to produce some movie about

  • 40:50

    a sports agent guess who it is you guess it's your boy Adam Sandler he's a work

  • 40:58

    he's a he's a comedian historian the

  • 41:13

    fact that you think it's tough for Adam Sandler to get a role in a movie is [ __ ] hilarious to me why do you think

  • 41:20

    that's a shock that Sandler Jewish I mean is you white

  • 41:27

    yes I know say nothing by your like

  • 41:46

    you'll have a reason to watch the sports a super strange haints but no I have

  • 41:55

    people that I don't really enjoy and that's part of self-awareness for me okay it's not hey I understand there's a

  • 42:02

    whole bunch of people that really adore Adam Sandler I don't like a whole lot I

  • 42:07

    don't you do adore him

  • 42:13

    man you don't know it's a podcast that

  • 42:18

    we've been running for five years so by now some of the audience knows some of the people that I just don't necessarily

  • 42:27

    run for me Oh Will Ferrell you know like

  • 42:37

    white comedy you're a racist but you're a black person can't be racist

  • 42:45

    whatever

  • 42:52

    I hate when mall comes up with my list for anything cuz mall says I don't like you people

  • 42:58

    that I really like and Parks makes it

  • 43:05

    fact that's not but I do like Will Smith

  • 43:14

    you don't invited I didn't like his transition to be a movie icon no that

  • 43:24

    was cool now you want to parents don't understand part two you didn't want to

  • 43:33

    how dare you going at one of the greatest sitcoms ever we needed those bars still got a sick list I like Vince

  • 43:40

    Vaughn finn steve in diesel so you like the VINs not the wills about you kerley

  • 43:48

    air parks is a little sassy it's all even condone Advan diesel to my list

  • 43:56

    you're not feeling DS no sad the video

  • 44:04

    Vinnie DS sounded Vin Diesel too by the way um what we talked about I like

  • 44:09

    Michael Scott Scott Burrell I mean that's [Laughter]

  • 44:19

    well you got it you got it yo the next-in-line guy the next in line

  • 44:26

    guys Scott when shut up for it the next in line guy when you were the guy that

  • 44:33

    knew that you were next up to bat when it was your turn your time to shine

  • 44:41

    friendly when that when your spider sense it started tingling gerra and you knew that you could just sensed

  • 44:46

    it dad guys time was almost up right yeah the Instagram pics started changing he was a lot less frequent yeah

  • 44:54

    when you're about to get the vibe Best New Artist Award right holiday no no to

  • 45:00

    me that's a fun time to uh to be like a

  • 45:06

    guy when you have the attention of a woman when she's expressing her problems

  • 45:12

    with her current situation and flirting with you at the same time you are well aware that you are next in line yeah for

  • 45:17

    the crown crown good have you after two

  • 45:26

    months I see why you cheated snicker was

  • 45:44

    about at the club that night wait'll you

  • 45:57

    see I'm happy for you guys ya know it's true yes I'd like to hear

  • 46:03

    about that experience from you you gentlemen well like I said it go I turn into that Nick explain Jimmy with that

  • 46:13

    [ __ ] me when I sensed it is my time up

  • 46:19

    yeah you step up becoming my oh my god oh my god hold on I give it up I turn up

  • 46:25

    the charm meter yeah and at that at that

  • 46:31

    smart there's a small window which you start really laying it on you how he's been screwing it up here you're getting

  • 46:37

    into Turner dirty Mac territory that's a fact

  • 46:42

    wait what you lyin our dirty macking you

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    lie in the tear shadow we're dirty exactly shut up oh that's foul I don't

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    [Music]

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    [Laughter]

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    know

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    [Music] and you stayed so now what you gonna do

  • 47:40

    [Music] so now what you gonna do dirty Macker

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    hill dirty Mac on her like don't you love yourself yes he'll take it a step further

  • 47:59

    Jovie like you got to love yourself more than you love him though you got to put your dirty mouth anything going on on my

  • 48:08

    side of the Mac can't fight my Mac you

  • 48:15

    was a tree alright attempted some nearby state shut up that's dirty Mackin hell

  • 48:22

    yeah cuz you make it hell feel like damn like it's that bad this isn't a debate

  • 48:27

    that's the definition of dirt section you're talking about dudes behavior to try to get in with her that's a fact but

  • 48:33

    I didn't say nothing about dudes babe you said Craig you even said his name I

  • 48:40

    said it is y'all is this being played in the battle it's gotta be in the bad old

  • 48:46

    the J he definitely all Joe's are voicemail Joe turn it down right here

  • 48:53

    say you've reached Joe what is it your voicemail let me you've reached Joe I know I have

  • 49:05

    I dialed the number right now I definitely had a song in the background

  • 49:12

    i'm mocchi hidden with a little bee McKnight anytime and if you stolen you

  • 49:17

    stuck on your ex don't leave a message stuck on your eggs that's dirty Mac top

  • 49:26

    five songs or ever it did there's no this number one hey hey

  • 49:36

    well maybe not number one for sure but it's outside what you just don't get we didn't actually what you get yo he did

  • 49:42

    what - you can't even believe it listen

  • 49:47

    to this mutt I would never neo never explained himself with this

  • 49:53

    you can't open a song with a baby I just don't get it it's not for you to get my

  • 50:00

    girlfriend along with it baby come you gotta watch them [ __ ] that let the baby fly loosely nestled there use that

  • 50:07

    [ __ ] next in line I've been there for a year baby I just that it's effective it's effective it is will you let the terms

  • 50:13

    of endearment flower oh yeah [ __ ] one of you [ __ ] up don't try to just sneak out a baby randomly well I don't love

  • 50:20

    like you know overuse love mmm not saying I love you but calling her love Bobby I did that for a year - how's

  • 50:28

    your day love yeah like come on that's filthy you don't love her alright I'll

  • 50:38

    add another scenario kind of attached to it when you're next in line we gotta

  • 50:43

    talk about your ovaries frankly I mean not good [ __ ] oh no it's cool Greg kind of solidified it for when you're next in

  • 50:52

    line for the hoe and then she decides she doesn't want to be a ho right when it's your turn mmm like she wants like

  • 50:59

    now I think I'm gonna take a break and I think I may be ready for a relationship now I was looking for relationship

  • 51:08

    though yeah I have a whole different

  • 51:15

    theory on this that I don't frequently share Oh no wife no wife and oh that's not too

  • 51:21

    bad wife and a ho you wouldn't know if you put all if you bill for it you would

  • 51:28

    knowingly wife oh ho like knowingly I don't know what define how do I want to expose myself of course you do

  • 51:34

    rim I can hear you in the Indian we're talking about the actual oh not the one

  • 51:40

    that moved cities and you know thing about her history until you happen to visit that I'm having a visit Dallas

  • 51:46

    you're like oh you was shorty there's nothing you can do about own oh man she just moved to New York she was a great

  • 51:53

    girl she seemed really awesome you know that don't count you can't fight against that I'm so

  • 51:58

    follow knowingly like you know does she's all a uses no there's benefits in

  • 52:06

    there I mean for conversational purpose is a safe space for fun parks run into

  • 52:12

    the Mountain Dew rack if you think of Sam what Marx I said there's benefits in there take care of men really well

  • 52:30

    thanks so there was a kind of domestic that was a weird notion that they put

  • 52:36

    out there that hoes don't know how to cook do laundry run a home like hoes know how to do that got that laundry

  • 52:45

    smelling like the freshest of bounty oh

  • 52:50

    boy I didn't know she was [ __ ] chef boy or man boy to see chef it up she

  • 52:56

    thought that would be but she chefs it up hoes know all the promoters tables

  • 53:03

    anywhere you want to go true they probably have a flight connect best back right now yeah best back rub in town

  • 53:10

    back rub in town oh and the BJ

  • 53:18

    and that's why mall funk only cuz you my man I'll expose my thinking with you

  • 53:23

    okay it is all the way possible to have your whole wife under the illusion that

  • 53:31

    she's your whole wife and the rest of the world be oblivious and it not really

  • 53:36

    be reality it just be hers I'm crying at Hawaii I know what you're talking about

  • 53:41

    [Laughter] you could be giving it up silky to your

  • 53:48

    whole wife right yeah and the world could be none the wiser they would have no idea yeah yeah yeah

  • 53:54

    and you're comfortable in it oh my god what fine but is that does that apply

  • 53:59

    for today doe with like social media [ __ ] yeah you're not posting her like

  • 54:05

    that's a that's another argument in household doesn't have to be like I've argued with girls that wasn't my thing

  • 54:11

    hoes have no interest in being on your Instagram put all the holes in one whole

  • 54:18

    box not all but there's level you told us a lot of talking about the real girls

  • 54:23

    yet and 21 year old that okay that can't

  • 54:29

    wait to be seen hand an image and we're not talking to the distinguished women out there of course know why would never

  • 54:35

    know okay I can see that I mean it is I'm silently I'm have a girlfriend you

  • 54:41

    have to at some point post on your social media somewhere in some fashion like I'm not I don't know anybody has a

  • 54:48

    girlfriend and has social media and they have no opposed to their girl from on social media aren't you a regular old

  • 54:53

    doctor Judy what was sureties name that did you love columns in a newspaper and Judy that's my boy was dr. Judy wasn't

  • 55:01

    really no furu you ready huh every day

  • 55:07

    Joe accident if he finished with a paper just to read to dr. Judy section with

  • 55:12

    that fam I you read the horoscope to read the box score not only that he wrote into the column to yeah more you

  • 55:18

    still happy to see me Tel Aviv what did you have you see me I'm happy to snowed roof I'm not happy to see you but tell

  • 55:23

    them you are I'm happy to see you do man

  • 55:28

    alright we would you gentlemen like to go now a lot of podcasting going hey I rock the

  • 55:37

    party they've rocks the party he was working on that come on man that wasn't freeze come on what they want to do what

  • 55:44

    they want to do even the sound of my voice is a part where we want to start

  • 55:50

    well

  • 55:56

    the air horn made me feel like you you were ready to come with the topic on our

  • 56:04

    podcast you I know which we got a couple podcasting thing well we've got a GoDaddy update well on both that we've

  • 56:10

    got both sides Oh daddy I know it's not the place that makes websites oh yeah

  • 56:18

    daddy we've got a car daddy update I

  • 56:23

    like this because we get both sides of the spectrum being car daddy as two

  • 56:28

    beginner beginner podcasters and we have Joe Rogan who is the shark of all sharks

  • 56:34

    usually the big white whale the big white whatever it is to be struggling yeah yeah so we have an intel on them

  • 56:42

    both hotel no I don't it's a public out

  • 56:49

    we've got somehow that's going out already we've got out tell on him both so Dave

  • 56:55

    Portnoy barstool boss has replied to all of the call me daddy podcast rumors

  • 57:02

    rumblings and allegations on their stream he did so on the call me daddy stream this was about a thirty minute

  • 57:09

    rant where he addressed everything from his POV he did mention the Post article

  • 57:17

    that first made note of some of these rumors and and some of the unhappiness

  • 57:23

    going around with the the to host the two calls um and he went and death the

  • 57:31

    way that he normally does that's the thing about Dave man to be the the boss

  • 57:36

    of a company but still have that like rant [ __ ] in you where you'll tell some [ __ ] no he's uh he's one of those few

  • 57:43

    CEO personalities yeah that tend to create businesses like this one yeah

  • 57:49

    he's not he's not to buy and the scenes guys their main personality and and their CEO and Dave is really really

  • 57:57

    really bright and very smart erica is really we really really bright too so I really

  • 58:02

    respect what they do over there um and I listen to this I listen to this as soon as it dropped thirty minutes worth

  • 58:09

    of drama yeah the cliff note version

  • 58:14

    would be they started a podcast for

  • 58:20

    maybe 70 grand a pop it was a three years 70k postpone assist three-year

  • 58:25

    deal plus bonuses six months in one of

  • 58:30

    them went to the other one oh six months in Moraes both of their salaries I'm cutting you off only to say he reached

  • 58:38

    out to Alex I believe her name was and said hey I think you have something cool over here let's talk about building this

  • 58:44

    I think that's a very key point in the entire theory they had this wasn't they

  • 58:49

    had they didn't have a full podcast she put out i G clips I believe okay of something along the lines of this they

  • 58:55

    had something on Instagram it made you a reach out yeah and then offered them

  • 59:01

    they have like six to eight meetings or something like that offer them the three-year deal 70 K plus bonuses in the

  • 59:08

    first deal they had a dispute on who would own the IP there was some pushback David said there's no point in barstool

  • 59:15

    building you guys up just for you guys to leave we need to own the IP intellectual property and they

  • 59:21

    eventually budged on that and the three-year deal had barstool owning that

  • 59:30

    today that was to me that was like okay that was their first mistake like you

  • 59:36

    can't you can't negotiate and then say okay you can have the IP call her daddy

  • 59:42

    and then try to then backtrack and say oh no but we own it it's like no you don't and he was very adamant like

  • 59:48

    that's what they wanted wanted that name it wanted to hi Pete what was confusing for me about that part was if you are

  • 59:55

    adamant about owned an IP than it means that you should understand the true value of it so then why would you waver

  • 1:00:00

    for 70 grand a pop that's what to me anything after that was like oh but but

  • 1:00:06

    they did yeah what they did but I mean and it worked I get bar stool it works in saying that

  • 1:00:12

    of course you should fight for people in barstools defense you're coming into a entire fan base that's

  • 1:00:21

    been built for god knows how many years and the moment we put something out our fan base goes after it so yeah I need to

  • 1:00:28

    own this and let me add that a lot of the companies are doing deals in which they look to own the property that that

  • 1:00:36

    that's what's going on right now so none of that none of that sounded strange to me fully they folded they rolled instant

  • 1:00:45

    success six months in six months in they both get raises within the first year

  • 1:00:50

    one of the members goes to Dave and asked for an increase in pay making her higher paid than her co-host that was no

  • 1:00:58

    that was after the six months six months they went in to ask for a raise Alex got the raise Sophia got the raise but

  • 1:01:04

    Alex's was more because according to Dave she does the edling she doesn't produce things she does more and he felt

  • 1:01:10

    it warranted or more his relationship with her she did the speaking for the group so he felt in his POV that she

  • 1:01:17

    deserved more money so then we get to a year and with bonuses off that 70k salary alex was making half a million

  • 1:01:25

    dollars sophie was making four and $50,000 that's a nice salary yeah

  • 1:01:30

    especially when you started at seventy seventy to a bonus so clearly this is a

  • 1:01:36

    nice jump in year one to have so you would have to imagine that by the end of

  • 1:01:42

    that contract barse do we said should be in a position to do the right thing absolutely yeah

  • 1:01:48

    and David and big-cat those those good guys I don't think there's shady guys no

  • 1:01:54

    I mean outside looking what I know you know and being around on it they seem like pretty cool guys so and then he

  • 1:01:59

    even had him talk he was like we just was trying to get something done that made sense for all of us that he was

  • 1:02:04

    like you know then they started getting difficult after they started to see the success of it and you know how that is once people start to see the success and

  • 1:02:10

    people start getting in somebody's ear from the [ __ ] well Dave said he has no problem paying a program paying a

  • 1:02:18

    program if they outperform their contract with success because clearly if they went from 70 to half a million in

  • 1:02:25

    in a year right clearly they're paying them bonuses the merge was flying off the racks this was a really profitable

  • 1:02:33

    business yeah and this is all Dave's point of view the numbers were given out Sophia from my understanding refutes all

  • 1:02:40

    of this so this is just reacting to his point of view from what we are after a

  • 1:02:45

    year once they had made each almost half a million dollars they got an attorney

  • 1:02:51

    Alex and Sophia together they wanted 1 million guaranteed salary each freelancers not employees 50% of all

  • 1:02:59

    revenue merge alcohol ads ability to sell their own March and sell their own ads a hundred percent of the IP is what

  • 1:03:07

    they went to counter after a year react that sounds reasonable that says like

  • 1:03:14

    you would reasonably want that yeah I of course you would reasonably want that in a realistic world if your bar stool what

  • 1:03:21

    are you doing with that offer I'm ripping that what on earth boys do have

  • 1:03:30

    anything in this at all - woz cold negotiation right I'm not mad at them for bringing that to them later

  • 1:03:36

    I love it yeah I'm playing bar stool sign here I love it I'm just trying to

  • 1:03:42

    give love yeah I love everything that they asked for that's great but I'm saying as the people that have you under

  • 1:03:48

    a three-year contract what do you think they're saying to that oh no definitely I'm gonna agree to that

  • 1:03:53

    but I'm not mad yeah but it still lets you know what time I'm on right sure you don't have to agree with it we're still

  • 1:04:00

    locked into a contract that's the one thing that Dave kept saying and I totally agree with you're locked in a

  • 1:04:05

    contract finish the contract even though music Joe never really body by that yeah I

  • 1:04:13

    agree with Dave there so during this time I might say [ __ ] off maybe but if I

  • 1:04:19

    know that they're willing to stop recording and I'm losing a hundred grand or over a hundred grand in advertising

  • 1:04:24

    money every episode they don't record my position may be different and contrary to what some people might believe I

  • 1:04:31

    might have said this before in here but during this pandemic the creator's value is up not down mm-hmm it's not down

  • 1:04:39

    so I mean yeah they stopped recording when their value was that their highest

  • 1:04:44

    I understand the move and the move works perfectly if the two young ladies don't

  • 1:04:50

    end up beefing with each other which the article says later on that that's what happened yeah Rory well bar get to him

  • 1:04:56

    bar still did come back Dave said they got a offer to raise he didn't say the amount you just said a raise they can

  • 1:05:04

    have the IP at the end of their contract which was in 18 months but bar still needs 90% of the alcohol that's the only

  • 1:05:11

    thing they wanted to keep in the contract and then he went on further to cut their contract time in six months

  • 1:05:18

    which made them less than a year that they could have just left with owning every single thing they had yeah that's

  • 1:05:25

    a nice deal it sounds like that when I heard Dave say that again his point of view that was the nicest thing I think a

  • 1:05:31

    CEO has ever given to anyone ever well yeah because he's at that point he was just saying like I didn't there was no

  • 1:05:38

    way you could not sign that deal right I gotta say from where from where his position started to where it ended in

  • 1:05:44

    the negotiation yeah it got to a point where was like okay y'all just be y'all basically just trying to like take

  • 1:05:50

    everything from it right and leave him with nothing yeah but the fact that one of the young ladies and and Dave said to

  • 1:05:56

    dis played a huge role the fact that one of the one of the young ladies got a

  • 1:06:01

    boyfriend and the boyfriend was Peter Nelson head of HBO Sports

  • 1:06:06

    you can imagine how those conversations go yeah and you can imagine some

  • 1:06:12

    influence some influence happening there so for sure and then see that but you

  • 1:06:17

    could also there may be a lot of stuff that we don't know like maybe they maybe homeboy Nelson had something worked out

  • 1:06:24

    for them somewhere else so I mean he Dave kind of mentioned that again he was suggesting this was just his opinion it

  • 1:06:30

    was not a fact at all that he had heard a rumor that someone had given Peter and

  • 1:06:36

    HBO a copy of the some other contract that they've done with podcast and they were trying to find some gender

  • 1:06:43

    discrimination rules like somehow to get out of it so while we're saying these counters and offers are nuts they may

  • 1:06:50

    have something on the table that's better I would and have a strategy to get out of that contract so it wouldn't even matter what

  • 1:06:56

    you're offering me listen you know Peter Nelson went to the girls and said we can give this over here of course and there

  • 1:07:04

    was like word let's do it but there's this contract that we're in I mean that's what it sounds like we don't know

  • 1:07:09

    [ __ ] it's not fact-based I'm just but that's just theorized yeah I know I know I get in trouble when i theorize about

  • 1:07:14

    other podcasts out there but I'm still at it yeah I haven't learned my lessons you [ __ ] we have the final final counter

  • 1:07:22

    that of course did not get signed if you heard about this story 500 guaranteed

  • 1:07:27

    for both of them each 7.5 percent of merch lower the contract length to a year from 18 months

  • 1:07:34

    Alex in Sofia each get a hundred percent of the IP 5050 between the two of them

  • 1:07:39

    bar still keeps 80% of the alcohol I don't know whatever like a liquor brand

  • 1:07:45

    uh yeah I don't I don't know if that's okay it must be lucrative if that's what barstool continues though it on to right

  • 1:07:50

    what do you guys think of that well we're just right I just think it's it

  • 1:07:57

    comes down to the ladies saw with their

  • 1:08:02

    podcast was worth they saw the numbers that they can bring back and obviously somebody got in there and was like we

  • 1:08:09

    have a potential bigger play on the table let's try to get out of this while

  • 1:08:16

    we can or fast it in three years and I think what Dave was saying was like why

  • 1:08:23

    would you so what am I suppose to be left with like that was his mission as a CEO like so then I put you on my platform and it was successful and we we

  • 1:08:30

    upped your pay and now I'm even negotiating cell phone well I'm basically just have nothing and you

  • 1:08:36

    still not happy with that it's like so you're saying you just want to like just walk away from this and like it never

  • 1:08:41

    happened and go your separate ways and that's just not the way you do business so I think that you know he sounds like

  • 1:08:47

    he's being fair from his standpoint he's actually taking a lot less than where he

  • 1:08:52

    started did they're still not happy so it's kind of like okay so what is what's really

  • 1:08:57

    going on here why why all of a sudden do you and then he said that Alex was in and now Sophia was not that was but then

  • 1:09:05

    later he said Sophia came back after Alex agreed to the new contract right and said hey I

  • 1:09:11

    want that same deal I'm down fifty-fifty and Dave said nah I did that deal's off the table which is which is how gauche

  • 1:09:17

    eh go sorry all 525 now yeah yeah so

  • 1:09:22

    it's basically they tryna they're trying to squeeze they're trying to squeeze Dave in some position to where it's like

  • 1:09:27

    right now I'm just what am I doing here you know I mean here's why I'm taking that last clue side with here's here's

  • 1:09:34

    why I'm taking that last counter we're kind of up in the air with what's going

  • 1:09:39

    on with Corona and when things are gonna change so if I have a deal with HBO and my boyfriend and all a [ __ ] that's not

  • 1:09:45

    gonna move and that's any time so if the song world so yeah soon deals are

  • 1:09:54

    getting done stuff of course deals are getting done but all the phones are ringing now yeah they are I can take

  • 1:09:59

    never yeah yeah if I can take one year to just finally cuz we're gonna have to

  • 1:10:06

    go to court either way we don't know how long that's gonna take because Corona and everything so I can't get out of my contract that's what I was getting to guys not that you can't make content now

  • 1:10:12

    the fact that a lawsuit has to happen for us to get out of this I don't know when courts are open let me sign this

  • 1:10:19

    it's one it's one [ __ ] year I'll get half a million dollars and I'll own everything and leave barstool and then

  • 1:10:25

    go on to this deal that I'm already trying to go she ate behind the scenes I take that me yes which one that last

  • 1:10:31

    deal they put on the table the last one will you cut six months off the deal and I walk away with everything at that in

  • 1:10:37

    the determine with what's going on now

  • 1:10:42

    we'd have to go to court I take that deal in a New York minute I'm interested

  • 1:10:48

    to hear why Sophia wouldn't there must have been a spectacular offer from somewhere well I would have also read

  • 1:10:56

    one jury well don't say that because you can be bored out of a contract right so

  • 1:11:01

    I straw I'm not certain that that one route I'm going off but just what DS

  • 1:11:06

    what Dave said that Sophia was suing bar stool and Alex so I'm going off what was

  • 1:11:13

    placed in front of me there's plenty of loopholes in which situations let me say cuz loopholes would be one of the

  • 1:11:18

    situations where they would not resign they could go somewhere else like I said get bought out maybe there's something in the lake

  • 1:11:24

    what out is the only option right now unless you're suing maybe they start a shoulder and brand I don't know what

  • 1:11:29

    their individual exclusivity and is too far we're missing but when you're

  • 1:11:37

    addicted people in negotiations at this point what do you want to say it or not

  • 1:11:42

    Dave does have the leverage because he has that 3-year contract he can say [ __ ] out of here I don't need your money for

  • 1:11:49

    your buyout I'm gonna hold this he can do that if he wants I disagree well I don't disagree I just don't know

  • 1:11:55

    if I agree or disagree on paper dave has the leverage but like Maul said last

  • 1:12:01

    week the pack is [ __ ] up I don't know how Alex sounds alone I don't know how

  • 1:12:06

    Alex sounds with the new co-host that they have to put there I don't know if someone has not come back then I don't I

  • 1:12:15

    don't know what this looks like no I'm saying my point to the last offer that he gave leverage here no I mean I

  • 1:12:21

    know he won't want to say we're trying to a deal with Alex by herself yeah we don't know that could be that could be [ __ ] up you toe she already [ __ ] off

  • 1:12:27

    though so like what's next we don't know

  • 1:12:32

    yeah oh we got a response we got action I've

  • 1:12:40

    been waiting to hear from these these young ladies oh this just dropped

  • 1:12:47

    breaking news nowhere else but the jbp do you get this type of news no you know

  • 1:12:53

    it's on our Instagram it's everywhere now but then we took this show to

  • 1:12:58

    barstool spoken okay there's been a lot of crazy [ __ ] were a lot of he say she

  • 1:13:06

    say out some of it is true some of it is not I'm going to be 100% open and

  • 1:13:12

    honestly I am I tell more truth than the other person why any time there's a back

  • 1:13:18

    and forth both people are saying I am being honest you both a large three

  • 1:13:24

    sides will pick the lie that I like the best is Alex and I created call her daddy

  • 1:13:32

    together what happened Queen March of 2018 we created it the two of us got the

  • 1:13:38

    dates and the margins 2018 baby they got

  • 1:13:43

    the dates buddy he's at that time we were best friends that day roommates arguably sisters diving you know you've

  • 1:13:51

    been there from the beginning then we took this show to barstool sports did barstool sports helped blow up call her

  • 1:13:57

    daddy 100% after some time had passed Alex and I then both decided we wanted

  • 1:14:04

    to consider some other options for multiple reasons one of them being for

  • 1:14:09

    the benefit of the daddy gang believe it or not okay but we did and do we regret

  • 1:14:15

    the way we went about it absolutely so you were wrong we could have handled it differently

  • 1:14:21

    wrong which is but we still wanted to work something out with bars wait what

  • 1:14:27

    and it's easy we could have handled it differently but we still gotta work

  • 1:14:33

    something out we still wanted to work something out with my resolve therefore you can't steal second base and keep

  • 1:14:39

    your foot on first you cannot play both sides of the fence like that Wow so once you put that in a rap I mean

  • 1:14:46

    I understand what you're saying like they probably still wanted to get something done when you want to get

  • 1:14:51

    something done you don't [ __ ] it up that's not true that's not true okay and

  • 1:14:57

    you can search for other options while still thinking maybe the one we're in is the best one yeah gotta see what's out

  • 1:15:03

    there it's the meeting with Dave and after the meeting with Dave that's where negotiation started with

  • 1:15:10

    both Alex to get a deal done this is

  • 1:15:16

    where the story gets extremely [ __ ] up where I found out that Alex had gone

  • 1:15:24

    behind my back at something what and I found out it wasn't the first time what

  • 1:15:30

    and that's why we're here she did what Sophia no you lyin no she

  • 1:15:40

    didn't no she didn't everybody knows that about Alex shut up

  • 1:15:46

    [Laughter] shut up why don't you I trusted Alex I

  • 1:15:53

    feel betrayed but ultimately she was my best friend and that doesn't change overnight and I'm willing to do call her

  • 1:16:02

    daddy I really am I just can't do it under this stances that she wants I

  • 1:16:09

    can't do it well she's demanding that she controls the show I don't want to be

  • 1:16:15

    like her employee yeah easy get Jerry out of here we are partners

  • 1:16:20

    we've always been that way we want Sofia cute good employee and in fact it's Z Y

  • 1:16:26

    dou Y well one person has been getting all of the business done and trying to

  • 1:16:33

    keep relationships straight one person has been influenced by their new boyfriend and is thrown all of this down

  • 1:16:38

    the toilet so what do you mean that doesn't go that doesn't make you employee no I mean you're making bad

  • 1:16:45

    choices I mean as a partner no you none all right no you cannot give somebody

  • 1:16:51

    that type of power that's gonna run your business in the mud partners have ran business into the mud more times than

  • 1:16:58

    employees that's arguing my bow that's why I'm saying you shouldn't make someone called ro that's gonna run your

  • 1:17:05

    company but you can't just make you can't just make your partner well I don't know their deal with each other but you can't just make your partner and

  • 1:17:11

    an employee out of nowhere cuz you feel it they made a bad decision that your partner you could fight for that you

  • 1:17:17

    could fight for anything with the right lawyer honey why you before me not to say it's gonna work but you can put that

  • 1:17:23

    only busy fight for she went about it she said the baby said yo I need to be paid more she's the one that made it was

  • 1:17:29

    both employees at that time but one of them stepped to Dave about being paid

  • 1:17:34

    more and one of them clearly had more focus in maintaining a relationship with

  • 1:17:40

    barstool it's not really the point we're bringing up at all that's the point I'm bringing up that's what you saying like

  • 1:17:46

    Alex did some shady [ __ ] let's hear let's hear Duns I trusted Alex I feel

  • 1:17:51

    betrayed but ultimately she was my best friend and that doesn't change overnight

  • 1:17:56

    and I'm willing to do call her daddy I really am I just can't do it

  • 1:18:03

    under this stances that she wants I can't do it while she's demanding that

  • 1:18:09

    she controls the show I don't want to be like her employee we are partners

  • 1:18:14

    we've always been that way we've always been 5050 and so it's putting me in like

  • 1:18:21

    a in extremely tough position that's from the boyfriend so here we are

  • 1:18:28

    I think his influence is crazy in this entire thing but no I think that's just a straight-up friendship no no no no

  • 1:18:35

    listen to me I agree with you all about what she's doing I'm only talking about the timing

  • 1:18:41

    in which she is doing it where I say oh that's the boyfriend that's the influence there may be about putting out

  • 1:18:48

    this statement right now I know because she could be replying to Dave right now but if homegirl has been doing all the

  • 1:18:55

    editing and maintaining of the relationship I'm assuming that one just wasn't so focused on that orb and now it

  • 1:19:03

    sounds like she would like to be but this which is cool so she's addressing

  • 1:19:08

    that why she's afraid by a friend you went behind my back he was doing all this [ __ ] and I had no idea and just

  • 1:19:13

    don't work like that I'm down too it's not I work for you am I wrong no no because if one person is

  • 1:19:20

    maintaining the relationships maybe because that's the job that they do yeah and you're like all right cool you handle that which is not a smart thing

  • 1:19:26

    to do don't get me wrong you should be involved but if she already had a relationship and she's like now I'm

  • 1:19:32

    gonna do the negotiation you handle that cool I'm not gonna jump in the middle of it be like no I'm gonna jump in the

  • 1:19:37

    negotiation too if you're my voice yeah you're handling it because many many times when you have partners let's say

  • 1:19:43

    you have a client that has obviously a bunch of employees all right

  • 1:19:49

    you seem to have a good relationship with this gentleman that just handles administration [ __ ] so you just do that

  • 1:19:54

    cuz we're better off negotiating with you over there when we do creative stuff I'm cool with the creative department

  • 1:20:00

    I'll only focus on that type of [ __ ] you split up duties when it comes to partnerships right that's not a weird thing okay you that's not really

  • 1:20:08

    replying to what I'm saying what do you say what I'm saying is one

  • 1:20:13

    of these people and again I'm speaking from the vantage point of not knowing whose value is what I'm not all the way

  • 1:20:20

    there and my knowledge of their deforming of their show one of them has

  • 1:20:26

    an offer for their own podcast to continue they both did yeah do you know

  • 1:20:32

    that's not true Dave said we'll do one with Sophia because they started fighting so Dave said alright we could

  • 1:20:38

    do two separate ones Sophia will put your [ __ ] on the call me daddy [ __ ] and you could take Sophia's offers have been

  • 1:20:44

    rescinded is what I'm saying they've been rescinded she doesn't have an offer which is why we're getting a

  • 1:20:50

    video saying hey I still want to do it but this is why I can't Alex the one who

  • 1:20:56

    maintained the relationship the one who's been editing and probably focusing a little more on the podcast is greenlit

  • 1:21:03

    for not only a new show but a bigger percentage of [ __ ] well that's what I'm

  • 1:21:09

    sorry that's the point that I'm making so yeah y'all not employees y'all a team blah see blah see blah but clearly how

  • 1:21:16

    y'all go about the business is separate listen one of the things I thank God most about this podcast are is here is

  • 1:21:22

    that we're friends right because I could see and I get sick of y'all sometimes

  • 1:21:28

    and y'all get sick of me sometimes but at the end of it we're friends right it's tough playing the business game

  • 1:21:35

    with people on air with you that's not your friend you have to maintain that all while playing the waiting game with

  • 1:21:42

    the companies to come approach you and for them to get a line what y'all thinking you playing two whole different

  • 1:21:48

    games one of them is gonna implode that's how I feel about [ __ ] uh-huh like so I thank God that we're friends

  • 1:21:55

    because you kind of avoid [ __ ] like this no less was Sophia saying she thought

  • 1:22:01

    was the case that they are my friends and that they would avoid some [ __ ] like this and let's let's say they started

  • 1:22:07

    out both his employees so when Alex goes to bar stool she's only negotiating for herself I'm just a lonely employee of bar stool what

  • 1:22:15

    she does what her salary is her business if we are independent contractors and we having that conversation that difference of the two and we have an LLC together

  • 1:22:22

    that's split 50 when we go we go in together to negotiate we're no longer just a sole

  • 1:22:28

    employee not physically together yeah like I could see there her feeling away

  • 1:22:33

    about her partner who she thought she was negotiating on her behalf is going into gauche a more money for her and

  • 1:22:39

    less money for her but she's their employees so it's like I can't negotiate a salary for another employee but if I'm

  • 1:22:45

    editing in your night then why can't I ask for more money than you well I think I don't think there was ever a beef

  • 1:22:50

    about that the beef is she gets paid

  • 1:22:55

    more and she went behind my back to ask for it and Dave is saying yeah but she's been editing [ __ ] and my relationship is

  • 1:23:03

    with her but that's it that's the legit beef though you're like if you're my friend and you're going in to go she ate

  • 1:23:08

    four more and you don't tell me that that's the beef cuz you could tell me that any bit I'd be like okay cool but

  • 1:23:13

    let me at least walk in our house you know whose job is it to say what gets disclosed and what does not well that's

  • 1:23:19

    that's gonna always that's gonna always change because you might feel like there's things that you don't want to

  • 1:23:24

    tell him like what if I need a couple extra dollars and I need it fast if we're partners to I gotta come tell you

  • 1:23:31

    you know I'm hard on my ass friends I gotta put my ego and pride to the side and so partners me and awesome see I'm

  • 1:23:37

    playing devil's advocate right now but I stand on that moral code that y'all are talking about right now however that's a

  • 1:23:43

    writ that's rarefied air that's that's yeah that's not that's not status quo and I think that's the position that

  • 1:23:48

    Sophia's in what she's saying in this video is but she keep going back to we're friends so she just assumed that

  • 1:23:54

    we're friends we were friends before this business [ __ ] we should be friends during and after this business [ __ ] and

  • 1:23:59

    if your friends on the same show I'm sure you guys are talking about your salaries and the money that is being

  • 1:24:05

    brought in I'm gonna go see Dave if I got 75% of the pie now yeah you're my

  • 1:24:12

    friend but that's tempting for someone who maybe don't so much stand on that

  • 1:24:17

    code we're talking about Danny young then you don't look in your friends write about sitting and she

  • 1:24:23

    don't she feels different about you our relationship there we go ding ding we hit that head come on where else will you get that

  • 1:24:28

    type of unpacking so here we are you have daddy I do

  • 1:24:34

    want to tell the daddy gang how much I love them especially the ones that have

  • 1:24:41

    stuck by me put into words how much is meant to me am I in a bad way I will be

  • 1:24:47

    eternally grateful you guys were the reasoning oh come on I don't want anybody's great shoes there was more I was making sure

  • 1:24:52

    she wasn't good no no no I'm fine all right you're just now daddy getting then me yes not gang gang that hurts

  • 1:24:59

    just like me not getting a rock fellow chain it's it's pretty much the same thing if you think about Holden give me

  • 1:25:04

    a Rockefeller chain and gave everybody Rockville chain that's true what a slap in the face and fab who's your man are

  • 1:25:11

    you guys really friends will not go in the mall I just record them all I hate fab what else we got

  • 1:25:25

    what else we got out that's important to get out there we have a new label mate a

  • 1:25:36

    new Joe we gonna get Spotify chains I think I think a richer Joe but he's here

  • 1:25:44

    and he's he's entered the the neighborhood Joe Rogan is officially part of Spotify as of September 1st you

  • 1:25:52

    can get his podcast on Spotify and all the other platforms come the end of the year it will be exclusively on Spotify

  • 1:26:00

    audio and video which I thought was the more interesting part that video will be on Spotify as well there will be no more

  • 1:26:07

    YouTube for Joe Rogan third they have a launch of the video stuff official yet

  • 1:26:12

    have they're not that I've seen I was in the Spotify video no I know they were running tests on it but just

  • 1:26:20

    knowing the value of Joe Rogan's YouTube channel and what that brings that's a

  • 1:26:25

    that's a crazy deal I know you too premium you trying to get

  • 1:26:33

    some extra bread on the side like to try

  • 1:26:39

    extra deals stop dating Peter Nelson

  • 1:26:49

    know every time I'm doing anything on the computer of Rory's whole focus goes

  • 1:26:55

    to my computer no because I'm trying to anticipate what you're gonna do is only here to be paired with what you were

  • 1:27:00

    doing so why do you stop while I'm gonna repeat understand no I want you to continue your conversation you were

  • 1:27:06

    going somewhere and I'm trying to produce I'm trying to get you guys to react I gave you the whole entire spiel of what the [ __ ] was going on react

  • 1:27:12

    slate play Joe's his audio from his announcement Joe Rogan's [ __ ] yeah play it over now coming to the Spotify

  • 1:27:21

    podcast game it's a big deal you've seen

  • 1:27:28

    him on YouTube Fox kid he got a gardening you seen him on the UFC 40

  • 1:27:41

    Fear Factor you seen him on fear factor

  • 1:27:47

    what he started on yeah show this is a big deal it's really big deal joke hey

  • 1:28:02

    multi-billion

  • 1:28:10

    it's just how hard would it be he's sound like he's coming to do work I told

  • 1:28:16

    you shoulda been the original look out

  • 1:28:22

    Billy Jamel Chanel but in shmurda just

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    [ __ ] on bill simmons only ran Rogan can be hope in which Joe will steal the show

  • 1:29:00

    I'm having too much fun look at Judd I gotta judge Oh Mike [ __ ] lies on TV

  • 1:29:09

    the [ __ ] pizza guy why am I going TV

  • 1:29:24

    line back to Joe come on we'll get the mic in a pedestrian man who put the Cape down put it back in your pocket look at

  • 1:29:30

    you God I know you got the portable cape no mall was there and ate the pizza with them and in fact got food poisoning as

  • 1:29:36

    well boy that Mike spit on Mike's alright Joe Rogan exclusively on Spotify

  • 1:29:45

    but on other platforms as well at least

  • 1:29:51

    for a year of the term and then the video and audio becomes a Spotify

  • 1:29:56

    exclusive and Spotify only not even a year um six months Spotify stock has

  • 1:30:04

    gone up one of seven points broken is the [ __ ] man this is a really really

  • 1:30:11

    really big announcement Rogan is the shark Rogan is D shark my initial

  • 1:30:18

    thought was my initial thought was

  • 1:30:24

    yeah I don't really know why Rogan would do something like this my very next

  • 1:30:29

    thought was oh my god oh no no no I'm sorry my first thought was damn I don't

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    even want to know the numbers attached to this and my second thought was damn I have to find out the numbers attached to

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    this we should know those because they

  • 1:30:46

    put out these headlines that steal the show but they don't give us the piece that we really want even when they

  • 1:30:52

    announce Bill Simmons [ __ ] uh the announcement how much money got came later broken said his podcasts have 190

  • 1:30:59

    million downloads per month last year down downloads by the way per month downloads per month downloads that's the

  • 1:31:08

    very key word right there if you get on that streams not lows in the next five years that's gonna be awesome

  • 1:31:14

    I'm gonna congratulate you and big you up he's getting that per month I don't

  • 1:31:21

    think there's any doubt of who Rogan is and what he does in this space my wizard

  • 1:31:28

    download farms I call [ __ ] I think

  • 1:31:33

    he got a stream and farms going no fan he got two we know the kids laugh to one credit card orders a certain about we

  • 1:31:38

    learned that six nine or dosha cat which one is it they just threw out a lot of

  • 1:31:44

    [ __ ] to confuse you even more but we'll get to that billboard [ __ ] in a second um but not this one of those deals they

  • 1:31:50

    don't ever publicly announce what those numbers were no this isn't the ninety million dollar Nike contract no this is

  • 1:31:57

    some other [ __ ] that will not be announced the videos added so I have to assume that this is well above 500

  • 1:32:05

    that's a guess I haven't spoken anybody I have no inside information this sounds like that type of what how

  • 1:32:13

    long do you think years wise his contract is three three guessing I think

  • 1:32:19

    he said multi yeah just a multi-year my

  • 1:32:24

    guess was five if they were doing video you know it's a lot cuz we all all of us

  • 1:32:30

    out there just naturally assumed that Rogan was too big of a shark to even entertain anything that anybody

  • 1:32:37

    ever had to say them yeah yeah yeah I mean he definitely this is definitely you know and we do know that Spotify as

  • 1:32:44

    of late has been owning properties when they purchase hmm like that part is in

  • 1:32:50

    the articles when they come out this one Joe Rogan makes specifically clear that

  • 1:32:56

    this is still a licensing deal and I own it and nothing about my show is changing

  • 1:33:02

    so this deal is just very unique congratulations to Joe Rogan if he's doing it I have to assume is some that

  • 1:33:09

    he wants to do and I'm anxious I'm curious if he takes down with that

  • 1:33:14

    licensing deal if that was a factor that the whole back catalogue will be available still on YouTube and an Apple

  • 1:33:22

    music and SoundCloud and all that other stuff I'll be interested to see if he if he takes all that down he did say that

  • 1:33:29

    he would still he would still have clips on YouTube but as far as the video and

  • 1:33:35

    whole you would have to go to Spotify platform you see that interesting when they're in a pod casts which i think is

  • 1:33:42

    a good did you want to be a VJ when you

  • 1:33:53

    were a kid no mall wanted to be hits in

  • 1:33:58

    the streets and that's my gosh out the

  • 1:34:09

    hits hits in the street he was at a stop

  • 1:34:14

    he was doing all the [ __ ] [ __ ] doing on YouTube you're not yeah you're right oh yeah you absolutely right shoutout

  • 1:34:20

    them um yeah what do y'all think react uh I mean that that changes the entire

  • 1:34:28

    podcast came to me at least how how so the fact that tell us more the biggest

  • 1:34:35

    of course spot if I'd already announced that they were looking to get in to podcasting we see that they have a whole

  • 1:34:40

    podcast division now their focus the fact that you're going after the I don't

  • 1:34:47

    even want to say arguably the number one podcaster right now to do a whole licensing deal exclusively like this is this is really big wasn't

  • 1:34:58

    sure if you were gonna say Marc Maron did Obama I'm just I'm gonna play

  • 1:35:06

    devil's advocate I got get it Joe Rogan is super dope annoyed but I think a lot of the times when I look at podcast like

  • 1:35:12

    this is because a lot of these dudes are guest driven shows can you get more into mic pause

  • 1:35:19

    kinky Cammy yeah you know they're like guest driven shows which means like a

  • 1:35:24

    lot of their shows are based upon who the guest is mm-hmm you know saying like if you have Elon Musk oh I don't think that's the case

  • 1:35:30

    with your Rogen yeah here's the thing I'm not saying he can't pull in a large audience by itself I'm speaking of in

  • 1:35:37

    terms of what we do and what he does is two different things that's the same that's not it's not two different

  • 1:35:43

    audiences I think that people tune in they actually hate when we have guests here right and I think that's that's the

  • 1:35:49

    the the ace and out and out in our hand is that people are tuning in for us

  • 1:35:55

    they're not tuning in just because we have a whole bunch aces not getting that what have you seen learn this I don't

  • 1:36:01

    want you think that I'm big enough for

  • 1:36:19

    y'all moving forward and I'm like I don't think it affects us in any ways

  • 1:36:24

    really I think it's eye opening foot I must be for me I'll let you speak it's away there's there's I'm sorry more

  • 1:36:30

    there's hate in becoming number two in a pool of over a million oh yeah of course

  • 1:36:41

    I know what you're saying but of course there's hate yes have you have you been on the Internet yes this hate and that's

  • 1:36:46

    one say I'm just speaking said I just let people know that we salute Joe Rogan first and foremost absolutely but we're

  • 1:36:52

    not it doesn't change what we do here because it's too different so we salute all podcasters we do we do we do but we

  • 1:36:59

    have to say and Joe there's hate when you're number one and because less number-one issue even when you're

  • 1:37:05

    still number one right you can fall off and still be number one and they'll still be like yo hey [ __ ] is trash right

  • 1:37:13

    it's over for him like nah I don't know if you noticed I've been number one for quite some time I disagree with that a

  • 1:37:19

    little bit only because there are so many different outlets now mm-hmm so and

  • 1:37:26

    none of them are reporting actual numbers like this is the death of a scene Joe Rogan numbers that's over

  • 1:37:34

    there now when when the report comes out that says Joe Rogan is number one we'll assume it to be true but we will no

  • 1:37:41

    longer be able to see number one we never saw all his numbers and number two

  • 1:37:46

    his YouTube numbers of ridiculous insane that's not all his numbers so that's what I'm saying there's more his audio

  • 1:37:53

    we never saw yeah but what I'm saying is uh one we won't get numbers anymore and

  • 1:37:59

    uh two there's a number one somewhere

  • 1:38:05

    everywhere for sure so that's why it's just a little alright this is great that

  • 1:38:11

    Spotify is making these types of moves they've been doing that if you've been watching with gimlet with Bill Simmons

  • 1:38:17

    with Park a swift they they've they've been on his wave and they have an abandoned ship yeah it's good to see

  • 1:38:22

    that they're progressing in that and that it's working and podcasting is lucrative that also showed me with this

  • 1:38:29

    alright we're willing to invest in someone that is gonna cost a [ __ ] ton of money because we believe that this is

  • 1:38:35

    here to stay this isn't a fad for the people that are hatin on that you would have to listen

  • 1:38:40

    if you want to look at me as dak Prescott I have zero issue with that when Patrick

  • 1:38:45

    mahomes gets the bag I'm throwing a party yeah like for me this raises value

  • 1:38:55

    the same way the pandemic raises value it raises value of raises our leverage

  • 1:39:01

    and and listen for some of us let's be really excited that now there's a new

  • 1:39:07

    audience on Spotify yeah that's the other thing with some of these exclusive deals you're working with in the bra

  • 1:39:14

    of the platform that goes back to Grover organ is now bringing the bad [ __ ] to

  • 1:39:21

    the club that's just a term with our fingers mean but that goes back to what I said when I say you know when big

  • 1:39:26

    artists drop their album mm-hmm I wouldn't run from that release date put my album well - because Wow yeah well

  • 1:39:32

    the Beyonce fans are there to get bees album guess who else I hope I'm sitting right there right mine I'm gonna get

  • 1:39:38

    some some of those let's think about who's this yeah and just click on it yeah you know me so it's not a bad thing it's this is

  • 1:39:44

    actually a big moment for I think all podcast I agree add to the community every podcasters should be celebrating the

  • 1:39:51

    move and trying to find out how much money he got yeah cuz even people that

  • 1:39:58

    are our listeners were like yeah you guys kind of I didn't really [ __ ] with podcasting up until y'all I've found a

  • 1:40:04

    lot of a new podcast because I've noticed I like to podcasting right so now you go into the podcast section of

  • 1:40:10

    Spotify and you have the biggest podcast there all right let me see what else they got and don't get it [ __ ] up

  • 1:40:16

    narcissist if Joe is still taking some credit for this happening cuz cuz of the

  • 1:40:21

    name Joe yeah no no I built this city on

  • 1:40:26

    rock and roll you [ __ ] right you [ __ ] right listen something happened

  • 1:40:32

    between this relationship because I'm positive this isn't the first time this Spotify froze Joe Rogan sure of course

  • 1:40:38

    I think everybody's been approaching Joe Rosen for the last X amount of years and I think he's just approached Joe Rogan

  • 1:40:43

    yeah why would I do this I'm not

  • 1:40:51

    entertaining any of it yeah and something changed there mmm something

  • 1:40:57

    changed and I think I think Joe Rogan always had obviously the leverage and I think that this is probably something

  • 1:41:03

    where like we don't know the deal we don't know specifics but this probably was something that he can say you know

  • 1:41:09

    what all right this is solidified for however many years so now I can also focus on something else now well that's

  • 1:41:15

    the other thing too more but when you were bringing up two aiders and people that might group us saying I feel like

  • 1:41:20

    this is a bad thing be clear when some of these announcements happen while

  • 1:41:26

    we're in the same space the our levels to this there's levels to this that's one of the reasons that I

  • 1:41:32

    didn't reply to the [ __ ] [ __ ] last week not because I didn't have anything to say and not because [ __ ] was all peaches

  • 1:41:39

    and cream it's just cuz it's levels to this so when the Bill Simmons ship came out and then when the [ __ ] Joe Rogan

  • 1:41:46

    ship comes out Joe Rogan is in year whatever of his business model bill

  • 1:41:52

    Simmons is in year whatever of his business model both of these gentlemen

  • 1:41:57

    are on their umpteenth Network and situation right they both not only are

  • 1:42:05

    extremely deserving of these bags but they've earned these bags this is the space that they are supposed to be in i

  • 1:42:12

    put an album out in 2015-16 like we're

  • 1:42:18

    in year four of this yeah - of a professional situation the corporate

  • 1:42:26

    licensing situation so I don't necessarily view it the same because there are levels there are levels the

  • 1:42:33

    GoDaddy [ __ ] is important for us to highlight because there are levels save on got a podcast there are levels

  • 1:42:39

    brandon has a podcast there are levels to this and it's important to pay attention at what's going on at each of

  • 1:42:45

    those levels if you aspire to be at each of those levels that is why I bring those things up here for the people that

  • 1:42:51

    are a little confused okay makes sense but this is a big moment for all

  • 1:42:57

    podcasters and Spotify graduations

  • 1:43:05

    specifically all the ones that are either exclusive to Spotify or join the Spotify network to Joe's narcissism

  • 1:43:11

    thing I know we say that but there's a point there yeah I think Spotify saw all their numbers at the end of last year

  • 1:43:17

    and going on now and said alright this is we'll invest this is a thing this is it yeah so I think everyone that was on

  • 1:43:24

    Spotify period I mean just so happened that we were number one contributed to all of this sure we have a business here

  • 1:43:32

    now as Spotify so let's go get the biggest [ __ ] pockets we if you couldn't tell that this was a business

  • 1:43:39

    before the global pan to add to that thinking like we are I

  • 1:43:44

    think this I thought this a lot while I've been at home we are really fortunate to be working in the digital

  • 1:43:51

    space where while there are some issues you work around them it's a business

  • 1:43:57

    that's pandemic proof to some degree to some degree to some degree yeah woman

  • 1:44:03

    real I'm really Ford we're really fortunate for that um all right 90

  • 1:44:09

    minutes of pod talk I mean it's a podcast thought about pods got a pod

  • 1:44:15

    about the pause it's a pod and a vodcast Rory you know the needle has moved in the

  • 1:44:20

    broadcast world did you feel it you felt the needle move felt the aftershock so

  • 1:44:28

    annoying when it's earthquake in LA and

  • 1:44:34

    all that wave you like oh my god did you feel that yeah Oh [ __ ] know that out

  • 1:44:40

    there alright so what else do we need to report on billboard versus everybody

  • 1:44:45

    billboard Arianna and Justin Bieber versus everybody sure well versus anybody that cares about Billboard

  • 1:44:51

    here's a question do you guys care about Billboard no no whoa loosely I think

  • 1:44:59

    it's cool and artists that make great music get credit for it in that way but yeah I don't it's not something I think

  • 1:45:06

    is a stat it's a it's a label thing about the Forbes like who has the most

  • 1:45:12

    money it's like those numbers are never accurate but it's not even that that's barely even equatable because it depends

  • 1:45:17

    on if you get number one on what everyone else is putting out like yeah you might be number one but what else came out that week right you know I'm

  • 1:45:23

    saying like certain number ones hold different weight over other number ones yeah I was happy to see I was happy to

  • 1:45:29

    see rod he's still on the top ten for some reason that made me happy but other than that I don't give a [ __ ] about

  • 1:45:36

    who's number one two three it was a report that came out yesterday or two

  • 1:45:43

    days ago about Nicki Minaj and OG cats number one being rescinded after the

  • 1:45:48

    investigation and that that was going around and I thought I was tweeting in defensive nickimja

  • 1:45:54

    naj and i didn't i tweeted as billboard actually reported on this at all i what

  • 1:46:02

    we just spreading around unsubstantiated [ __ ] well would billboard report that they were lying about their own numbers

  • 1:46:08

    they did actually report how did that yeah what was their what a defense or they just laid out basically their

  • 1:46:14

    metrics you know how they judge things can we pull that no but that was in response to duke yeah okay yeah that

  • 1:46:21

    wasn't in response to the nikki and those rebel but apparently it was just a glitch so billboard never reported on

  • 1:46:29

    that because it wasn't actually true and it did still show on building yeah it

  • 1:46:34

    was a glitch listen I'm not a billboard act I don't know how often or not the glitches happen but that's what happened

  • 1:46:39

    either way I was attacked I wouldn't mauled by the barbs no you hold by the barbs it's fun small one of

  • 1:46:46

    the bar happens every now and then malls are mall might have missed there because

  • 1:46:52

    he was so uh so Trent entranced with summer walkers new makeup it was makeup

  • 1:47:01

    in malls defense he looked great but who

  • 1:47:06

    says she wasn't bad not not how she looked and being entrenched and make of

  • 1:47:11

    us don't do that malls I have never tried to [ __ ] on how summer Walker looks

  • 1:47:26

    only ever [ __ ] it on her performances her album is still crazy

  • 1:47:31

    oh I knew music has been crazy and because she looks great yeah you know

  • 1:47:37

    what we say about summer she looks like that the hood rat the hood rat that's fire yeah someone's bad which is our favorite

  • 1:47:43

    yeah that's all of our favors please don't think that's an insult no that's that's our summer is a beautiful girl so

  • 1:47:55

    mall might have missed some things cuz he was glued to her pages I mean he flew furred to Toronto for that she got back

  • 1:48:00

    with London on this [ __ ] mall and y'all got somebody on Momo's trash monster I

  • 1:48:06

    honestly furrow brew bag

  • 1:48:12

    would youwould you dirty mac for summer I was out with dirty Mac for nobody okay I like to I like them all as a

  • 1:48:18

    personal mr. Morel what we talking about before this summer walking [ __ ] bill boy

  • 1:48:24

    bill boy alright so uh there's a dispute dispute over who's number one

  • 1:48:31

    Duke got number three he did some [ __ ] claiming billboard allowing people to

  • 1:48:36

    purchase number one because ariana grande and Justin Bieber record at the last minute added like sixty thousand

  • 1:48:43

    units based off of six credit cards Arianna Arianna Arianna responded on day

  • 1:48:54

    one with a heartfelt message on the next day Justin Bieber replied in support of

  • 1:48:59

    Arianna with a heartfelt message of course NN day three billboard actually replied with a heartfelt message in

  • 1:49:05

    defense of Justin and Arianna and response to Duke all three of these huge entities were responding to do my god I

  • 1:49:13

    have I'm checked out on anything involving Duke say I just think it's funny that billboard is replying along

  • 1:49:22

    with Justin and Arianna for these number one record [ __ ] nobody that I know has heard any of these records say it's true

  • 1:49:30

    yeah like billboard don't really run my world and run what I'm playing in that

  • 1:49:35

    in the house that's the beauty and numbers numbers lie all the time now billboard replied and said listen you

  • 1:49:41

    can only buy four copies with a credit card anything else is not qualified billboard only counts us streams not

  • 1:49:49

    international streams like Duke was doing like they did give a response but to me the response means nothing we do

  • 1:49:56

    know that business is attached to billboard now do we have to know the

  • 1:50:01

    exact business and how it goes none not at all but we know this business attached the end that's the but that's

  • 1:50:08

    like all that he's [ __ ] that's like all of the streamers and the labels and the media hubs and there's business

  • 1:50:14

    attached to all of it right it's only stupid-ass us just advertising things for free and giving away content for the

  • 1:50:20

    it's all business all of it but here's the thing with with billboards to tell

  • 1:50:27

    them the thing I like the fans don't be caring about the [ __ ] either I'm ignoring you like fans don't run the

  • 1:50:36

    billboard either the hot I guess some industry [ __ ] the hives didn't know about it until the major artists started

  • 1:50:42

    arguing about it yeah true like no one really cares about this [ __ ] people don't care about this because like I

  • 1:50:48

    said we streaming now you you are your own DJ if you like the record in like the artist you can listen to that artist all

  • 1:50:53

    day if you want to in your car your headphones you don't ever have to go to radio in but like I hate this song I

  • 1:50:58

    don't wanna hear this song it's the same ten people that stream top ten Billboard

  • 1:51:03

    it's the same ten post Malone is gonna be in there rowdy as now looks like a main fixture the week ariana is always

  • 1:51:11

    gonna be there weekend as always Justin's always gonna be there Duke is always gonna be there that solution

  • 1:51:17

    don't we [ __ ] up don't let the ratchet fool your solution still it's still little showing how long it's gonna work it's still Lucien so we know Lucien

  • 1:51:25

    don't care none about eleven rat-a-tat-tat [ __ ] [ __ ] out it's on my own kid was snoopers tall mount you're looking at the numbers that solution

  • 1:51:32

    Duke is gonna be there for a minute um who else like it's the same [ __ ] will

  • 1:51:38

    leave two spots open the rotate whoever has the hot song and that's it yeah Beyonce's gonna always be there yeah man

  • 1:51:46

    they like a lot as honorable honorable mention and someone who looks to be a mainstay in the future I mean you could

  • 1:51:52

    just see what relationships are being cultivated is what I'm saying yeah and Meg has the YouTube power with

  • 1:51:57

    Woodley or still whether he wants to say it or not being part of 300 listen listen it's a lot going on out to do the

  • 1:52:05

    science you're gonna always be there man

  • 1:52:11

    a solution like this is not a game

  • 1:52:16

    that's just open for everybody to play it's a fact that's why when you said it was cool that rowdy was there it's cool

  • 1:52:23

    sometimes when someone that's not supposed to be there breaks in that's the only time billboard is cool listen rowdy is in a Go Daddy Go Daddy

  • 1:52:30

    call call me daddy situation of his own not really cuz he's gonna get the back he's gonna get the back whatever his

  • 1:52:37

    contract said is now torn apart with the people who are unaware it no longer

  • 1:52:43

    exists and whatever department whatever is to exist in the new contract it's

  • 1:52:50

    coming from Rotti that's a fact that is the manual on how to go about

  • 1:52:56

    outperforming your contract I did landok say something to him they wouldn't they

  • 1:53:01

    would and the baby is another one that seems like he's gonna be on billboard for a while yeah I think so yeah yeah

  • 1:53:06

    he's another one of those he's one of them now he's one of them now Travis yes

  • 1:53:12

    sir Travis you know the one you know the ones man you know the one that's it

  • 1:53:17

    well some of which have to maintain that for real like I think baby has to maintain that for real Ariana makes

  • 1:53:24

    great music but she could put out some [ __ ] and it's still gonna be there yeah if she's loose to most of these are

  • 1:53:30

    universal it's a lot of universal in here for sure for sure but I hate to

  • 1:53:41

    break it to you I hate to break it to you numbers always lie that should be a rep don't break its own Road

  • 1:53:47

    yeah we're someone should wrap that [ __ ] up Rory um what else is important that

  • 1:53:52

    they're actually we have a whole segment called that's important from for example 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 where where

  • 1:53:58

    over two hours might as well give some importance Templeton Templeton Templeton Payne that's natural ten wins

  • 1:54:17

    I find that important me too in the fall me too Facebook bought giffy that's

  • 1:54:24

    pretty big that's important 400 million dollars that's all they got yeah give

  • 1:54:30

    you only got 400 million you're Rory that's all million you know big gif he is no you know have you ever seen a gift

  • 1:54:36

    in your life you know big four hundred million is have you ever seen a gift in your life yes alright

  • 1:54:42

    yeah you you move the goalposts on a lot of things man I don't think so dough you think it's a lot or not a lot I

  • 1:54:49

    think it's a lot I don't know it's a pretty big platform dog gifts we just

  • 1:54:56

    reported that Joe Rogan got a hundred or over it said over but 100 we just

  • 1:55:02

    reported that mm-hmm no I don't think if he should get four hundred million but I don't know so if

  • 1:55:07

    you're if you're already licensing I think they should get it don't laugh at me for typically I didn't laugh at all

  • 1:55:14

    in this conversation I don't know what gives you all of our phones that's where most people pull gifts from on everything that's where everybody's

  • 1:55:22

    background gif meme Apple gif is a

  • 1:55:27

    billion dollar company I was absolutely so that's why you sound surprised yes for Facebook to buy it that's that's

  • 1:55:34

    a pretty big deal yeah you know they got it might be a twice over billion dollar

  • 1:55:40

    company yeah Catina Bynum was hired just be attaching

  • 1:55:45

    numbers to [ __ ] huh did we attach in them so do you I know

  • 1:55:52

    Catina Bynum was hired as executive vice president of East Coast labels for Universal Music just a woman of color

  • 1:55:59

    and a power position in music business so I'm just loot that rest in peace Fred

  • 1:56:04

    Willard actor comedian yes what a recipe frame they're opening us theaters back

  • 1:56:12

    up mostly drive-ins though I thought that was kind of interesting cuz where do they still have drive-ins upstate New York yeah in my hometown is driving and it's

  • 1:56:19

    in Cali somewhere oh yeah no one in New York City though you know I should be to let it be to pack the opening theaters

  • 1:56:25

    back up and I'm done dating there's a push in Congress for competitive concert

  • 1:56:30

    ticket prices I thought that was pretty interesting involving mostly Live Nation and Ticketmaster so they can't price

  • 1:56:37

    couch concert tickets because they have like basically monopoly or ticket prices it's pretty cool yeah more will be

  • 1:56:45

    revealed Jeffrey Epstein dot coming to Netflix I saw the trailer for that

  • 1:56:51

    really excited about that type of stuff if you know my back they gotta give us the real though do not of course not

  • 1:56:59

    no they can't give us the room they're not but I am excited to watch this this is May 27th yeah

  • 1:57:06

    May 27th it says it's exposing the money power and secrets behind the international sex trafficking ring I don't you know I'm sure Jeffrey Epstein

  • 1:57:13

    is excited to watch it on his Island as well too killed himself

  • 1:57:18

    are you rolling with that one I was rolling with that the first time we ever talked about it

  • 1:57:27

    fruit signed a first-look deal a UTV you see in media oh that's awesome

  • 1:57:36

    yeah come on man wins everywhere Luther wins wins everywhere there's article I

  • 1:57:41

    read about the head of song acoustic music is up over pop music in like digital music during the quarantine like

  • 1:57:47

    significantly what music like acoustic music more like live instruments non poppy like real [ __ ] yeah I thought was

  • 1:57:55

    pretty interesting hip-hop was down 15% until Drake releases the savior somebody

  • 1:58:08

    criminais was banging like hip-hop music not pop it up but I listened to parks

  • 1:58:13

    I'm not talking about you in stop telling me what you listen it might be a live [ __ ] lyricist lounge in here wow

  • 1:58:24

    I don't believe that I don't believe [ __ ] is banging hardcore hip-hop I got to be in the mood

  • 1:58:29

    like I do but I'm not in this I'm not speaking about myself but [ __ ] don't do that that's that's not I don't agree

  • 1:58:35

    I think a lot of people just not in the house not necessarily like pop hip-hop man your neighbors are more con to call

  • 1:58:43

    the police if you bang it would say and Klan and if you bring it banging Anita Baker that's true I turn a rap song on

  • 1:58:56

    at 6:00 in the morning that cops gonna be right up you don't get you do not

  • 1:59:02

    belong here there's another article about major radios trying to get a

  • 1:59:07

    majority of the the grants being held out for or handed out for Court

  • 1:59:13

    money which I thought was pretty interesting not much information there for you but that's what I got

  • 1:59:19

    Thank You parks you're welcome that was pretty informative and all that stuff is indeed important indeed I gotta tell you

  • 1:59:26

    man deep conditioned parks is a good totally different place I don't know aerodynamically he gets more lift on his

  • 1:59:31

    shot yeah something about natural state

  • 1:59:38

    before the game yeah yeah would you guys that's his afro yeah yeah what'd you

  • 1:59:43

    guys think of the final two episodes a Jordan [ __ ] yeah Wow goal a Michael

  • 1:59:49

    Jordan I would let them all liar Molly that's what I thought the last two episodes pretty disappointing

  • 1:59:54

    disappointing yeah and the rest of the episodes were phenomenal the last two were just kind of like just told the

  • 2:00:01

    story you know what I mean it wasn't really like insight or like a closure or there was no point you know what I mean

  • 2:00:08

    like I feel like a ten part documentary series we would have learned something new and I've cut well we were saving that I mean we did the dance ends well a

  • 2:00:15

    lot of people should have learned is you know why Michael Jordan punch Steve Kerr

  • 2:00:20

    in the face Steve Kerr started to make a lot of shots after he got punched in his face so I mean in hindsight you gotta

  • 2:00:27

    understand what Mike was taking the coaches like I'm gonna punch in your face if you don't hit these open shots

  • 2:00:32

    you start hitting open isn't you don't get punched in your face I think that trade-off though the world would be a

  • 2:00:38

    much better place if people got punched in the face this is what I'm trying to

  • 2:00:44

    tell you if Mike say listen if you missed that shot one more time I'm gonna run up in your [ __ ] again you not gonna

  • 2:00:50

    missed a shot so we learned why that was effective because people tried to kill Mike oh he's a bad teammate you can't be

  • 2:00:56

    a bad teammate you listen man all jokes aside Michael Jordan I don't think it

  • 2:01:01

    should be a debate anymore it's a lot of great players to play the game but Michael Jordan is without a doubt the greatest basketball player to ever play

  • 2:01:07

    the game I think that's just I didn't need this documentary to any you've thought that since episode one no I

  • 2:01:12

    thought that since I knew 33 but now but

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    now seeing all of these stories like Dennis Rodman was so comfortable leaving to go wrestle Hulk Hogan

  • 2:01:25

    [ __ ] Rodman down the middle of her - you would never find a play on any team that would leave now but the fact that

  • 2:01:32

    he knew he had my cooks like you said we totally cool said we knew we were gonna win we got Michael Jordan in our locker we're not losing you don't even have

  • 2:01:39

    that there's no players that even speak about their teammates as confidently as they spoke about Mike you're not gonna

  • 2:01:44

    find it and that's not me because you said I never played in there be a cool listen sit with the other players saying

  • 2:01:50

    Bobby Knight knows you know juniors Randle's him do they know him down no listen man Bobby Knight episode 1 he

  • 2:01:55

    said that is the greatest basketball player I've ever seen on life he said that before Mike played in the NBA man we know of you more elbow I'm just

  • 2:02:01

    saying these are like basketball gods

  • 2:02:07

    that are talking like this like Bobby Knight says that about a kid who never played an NBA like is the best player

  • 2:02:12

    ever to me that's like me going outside seeing something on the cypher and saying yo that's the best rapper ever

  • 2:02:17

    and it turned out to be jay-z 30 years later I mean you did do that though like

  • 2:02:24

    I'm just saying like it's being honestly of all thank you for reasonable doubt now I have to thank you I don't know how

  • 2:02:32

    you look at this documentary and walk away from it feeling like it's even close wait on the Brawn dog that's gonna

  • 2:02:38

    be a great doc as well [ __ ] absolutely bra size gonna be great so much other [ __ ] besides basketball that's the one

  • 2:02:44

    thing that this doc was missing is Jordan was the greatest basketball no doubt but we didn't really learn anything about Mike he do nothing else

  • 2:02:52

    he play ball maybe so Yan gambled a lot LeBron was crowned King engulfed and he didn't he

  • 2:03:00

    lived up to that like you say he didn't live up to and I said he'd love it I mean he dominated he's been the kind of

  • 2:03:06

    this era absolutely you know I'm saying so I think that's the biggest part it's like a kid coming out of high school they put all this pressure on you you're

  • 2:03:12

    the King you're the next come in and you're this and you actually go out and live up to it yeah yeah I'm saying so to

  • 2:03:17

    me that's the most like appealing part of the Brawn stories that he had pressure coming in from day one yeah and

  • 2:03:24

    he moved up to it LeBron probably man probably more pressure didn't who Michael

  • 2:03:29

    oh of course he did he came straight out of high school he was named a king like you take your overstuffed anyway on the

  • 2:03:34

    Cavs whoo LeBron has he yeah you do yourself somebody no I'm not hitting nobody No bran seems

  • 2:03:40

    like it yeah he's definitely cursed a few people out don't get it twisted oh we see that on TV but Mike is in malls

  • 2:03:48

    defense Jordan had enough confidence to get drunk as [ __ ] before a Finals game

  • 2:03:54

    believe that was a hangover it wasn't a Hank it was a hangover now don't you

  • 2:04:00

    think so absolutely I've had hangovers once you get moving eat the hangover kind of goes away he was certain hangovers though never party

  • 2:04:06

    like Michael Jordan that's a pretty good par you like Mike if there's one thing I

  • 2:04:12

    can compete with with Michael it's that you and Utah haven't flown in no I never

  • 2:04:19

    did that no I haven't you are correct just the audacity of him coming on TV to

  • 2:04:24

    tell us that this was pizza gate I tried to tell you what do you even like I read

  • 2:04:33

    a Craig Hodges interview that he did with I don't remember I will credit them if I did we he was

  • 2:04:39

    talking about his perception of Mike and just the team and being waved after winning the three-point contest three

  • 2:04:46

    years in a row and leading the league in three-point field goal percentage I'm being waved and never playing in the

  • 2:04:51

    league again due to some of his ideologies some of his beliefs I thought it they spoke about him approaching

  • 2:04:58

    magic and Michael before Game one of the finals saying hey you guys just sit out

  • 2:05:04

    [Laughter]

  • 2:05:11

    again remember Craig Hodges wore the dashiki to the White House um and he

  • 2:05:17

    just said he was really conflicted knowing that two of the most powerful people in african-american history Michael Jordan and Oprah Oprah Winfrey

  • 2:05:24

    were so silent on some of the issues that were pertinent to what was going on

  • 2:05:29

    right there in the city he spoke about 900 murders annually you know he was

  • 2:05:34

    just real passionate he talked about how he believed he was blackballed and what his thoughts were on the last dance

  • 2:05:40

    documentary where was I was a really good read there's art down the rabbit

  • 2:05:46

    hole those are the interview I want to say it was with Alex but don't remember okay I'll try to find

  • 2:05:53

    interesting gonna read it but it was a really good article really good really good interview shout out to Craig Hodges

  • 2:05:59

    um along with the reports that Scotty wasn't really happy with his depiction throughout this entire thing do you guys

  • 2:06:06

    think that's valid my Scotty more

  • 2:06:18

    praising I thought they would oh so you thought he was muddy no I always knew Scotty was one of the best small 4/7 am

  • 2:06:25

    NOT going in the game when the cool coke shot should not be ignored and him

  • 2:06:30

    having back spasms in Game one at Game six that at Utah game should not be

  • 2:06:35

    ignored it wasn't ignored and he said I was

  • 2:06:41

    scared when Scotty back went out I could see how there would be other interpretations of his depiction and I

  • 2:06:47

    and I could see how he would have a pride yeah the way he was the back autocracy episode 2 where they dedicated

  • 2:06:54

    maybe 20 minutes to Scotty and who he was as a player and a human and all that and then after that just made him seem

  • 2:07:00

    like for six more episodes about the bad contract they was in they spoke about him holding out from the team wanting to

  • 2:07:06

    do the surgery in the summer cuz [ __ ] the team like there were a lot of points in his scene I was where it was all real

  • 2:07:12

    [ __ ] I'm just telling you why I can understand why how Scottie Pippen could feel away at his depiction in this

  • 2:07:19

    Michael Jordan edited doc I mean of course he's allowed to feel away if he feels the way he feels a lot of people

  • 2:07:27

    that didn't respect Scottie I think they walked away from this life oh no Scott he was the real deal yes I'm from the holding out and in the

  • 2:07:34

    Kukoc shot game he was I mean even Michaels saying he was scared without Scott he doesn't change the depiction of

  • 2:07:40

    what they were trying to paint with Scottie sitting out during that yeah so I'm with Rory on this one but really

  • 2:07:48

    good doc really good duck what I will say I'm anxious for the the new season that 3430 is coming out and they're

  • 2:07:54

    doing Bruce Lee boy am I excited about that watch me they're starting off with part 1 of Lance Armstrong this Sunday

  • 2:08:01

    while familiar with that story I'm still excited to see it absolutely there ever been a tiger one no I think they have

  • 2:08:08

    one tiger I think that Lance want to be good if they they focus on the right [ __ ] yeah I

  • 2:08:15

    like the way that should be a whole

  • 2:08:21

    episode yeah I just look forward to it that's all no I think they should get into the Live

  • 2:08:27

    Strong the outside of the obvious topics the LIVESTRONG scam I think is a whole

  • 2:08:32

    thing in itself but that's that's true I forgot my bad wake up look right at your wrist but y'all got a LIVESTRONG today

  • 2:08:41

    but now knowing that the guy that was

  • 2:08:46

    like come on LIVESTRONG was doping that's just great that's the second American it's amazing and the fact that

  • 2:08:56

    he did specify how you get your strength yeah that's just also the fact that when

  • 2:09:02

    he got exposed for the [ __ ] that the biking world thought we would give a [ __ ] bike to France

  • 2:09:13

    yeah I'm gonna take some steroids see

  • 2:09:19

    that hill that's gonna be a good one I

  • 2:09:24

    think though oh yeah it's the LIVESTRONG [ __ ] is on the trailer that might be

  • 2:09:30

    close to the mcmillian scale yeah that [ __ ] is up there okay so mom might Bend behind that she sounds fire Wayne heard

  • 2:09:42

    too much from Disney Plus huh there quietly still killing yeah yeah they had

  • 2:09:47

    the Star Wars series it was read oxymoronic quietly killer [ __ ] you could

  • 2:09:52

    do it it's a fact but they haven't had any like Marvel releases it was a lot of

  • 2:09:59

    Disney Plus talk leading up to the launch of Disney + o to the fact that I don't see anything well yeah well I

  • 2:10:06

    don't think yeah I don't think that's true anymore doesn't the Star Wars is a big deal a Star Wars series Coast AM

  • 2:10:12

    Mandalorian people are talking about that a lot I think just the back catalogue Disney has

  • 2:10:19

    in the meantime is doing okay while they produce other things yeah they'll be

  • 2:10:24

    alright yeah well I'm sure you know I don't know if Disney will be okay

  • 2:10:29

    I think they you know they'll be just fine Disney will have somebody uh have

  • 2:10:36

    somebody a game since like it so much it might be they might use the Disney Resort as um as a headquarters for the

  • 2:10:42

    Houston conference teams oh yeah that could be a great way to get some of that money back they lost some China and I

  • 2:10:54

    hope the NBA is thinking about making up every player I would just like to see I know they're talking about they haven't

  • 2:10:59

    they're having a light talks about soft openings of the economy I would just

  • 2:11:05

    like to see how the pushback of the different the different businesses affects the startup of when we're

  • 2:11:12

    accustomed to like if NFL is gonna know if NBA is gonna start the finals are normally in June now when would they be

  • 2:11:18

    in August and then when would y'all start the next season then there's some rumblings about maybe starting every season in December I don't know I feel

  • 2:11:24

    about that but we've done it before I just don't know uh as far as the shows

  • 2:11:29

    and their live venues you know a lot of times you got to book those eight months in advance I'm sure there'll be a

  • 2:11:35

    waiting list for that I'm anxious to see how the reopening will be there we're probably not gonna know until honestly

  • 2:11:40

    summer 2021 and even then it'll be a wait for some things uh on a much

  • 2:11:46

    smaller scale for me I'm interested in what they doing what [ __ ] Love & Hip Hop just not because I'm so interested

  • 2:11:51

    in Love & Hip Hop but just in knowing the schedule of how things normally are versus what you're prepared to do now

  • 2:11:59

    Love & Hip Hop normally goes up in December and starts shooting in August none of that's possible so what are you

  • 2:12:04

    gonna do it throws your entire franchise off there's just a lot thrown off right now and to be honest a lot of the people

  • 2:12:11

    I know when I look around are making a lot more from unemployment than they did it their actual job people know their

  • 2:12:17

    rush to go to work quickly some PT your Love & Hip Hop point and not just loving those people yeah but just networks in

  • 2:12:24

    general do you think there's more water and no I'm asking a question I'm ignoring you again you think

  • 2:12:31

    there'll be an influx in ads for TV or less because companies don't have the dollars to just throw into advertising

  • 2:12:38

    over it what do you think the block will be super crowded we trying to advertise everything more what does influx me a lot I think I'd be

  • 2:12:44

    more concerned things are doing very well so there I've done thousand dollars I don't if the NBA PR Lysol got some

  • 2:12:51

    Sabri our advertising dollars be clear I believe there's always advertising

  • 2:12:59

    dollars to be spent yeah those don't leave I think it depends a company but yeah but that's what I'm saying if you

  • 2:13:07

    have it you have it Lysol has it [ __ ] whoever you want to name or Clorox has

  • 2:13:12

    it I just Amazon has it the people having Spotify has it I just don't think Lysol and Clorox need

  • 2:13:19

    to run to advertising right now I think it's kind of self-explanatory yeah but for the millions of companies that are

  • 2:13:26

    relying on advertising and that are having to switch their entire business model so they can stay afloat

  • 2:13:31

    during this time it's important to maybe notice what they're doing or what's going on with them well I know a lot of

  • 2:13:38

    them got loans so I'm curious if they'll dump a lot of that loan money into just

  • 2:13:44

    ads and kind of take that risk the thing about ads at least on

  • 2:13:50

    television you know you pay the ads for a certain block that block is contingent

  • 2:13:56

    upon what's aired in that block if you are unsure that's why you see a lot of these shows scrambling to just put

  • 2:14:04

    something out there because we've gotten money for this block already and we can't lose it or this is the block we

  • 2:14:10

    sell and get the most money on it's not the advertisers don't have money it's what are we giving the money for right

  • 2:14:15

    now what are you able to offer in terms of content right now yeah that's what's happened and it's in the contract to

  • 2:14:20

    show us what the viewership was at that time yeah yeah I could see a lot of

  • 2:14:26

    people having a hard time but then again listener as I was telling Rory on the way here it's the first time we saw a little bit of traffic I missed I missed

  • 2:14:32

    a little traffic I mean I missed a little road rage like there were some

  • 2:14:37

    things that were present in my life that I just had accepted already like so like road rage no I liked waiting a

  • 2:14:45

    little bit seeing what the cause of doing seeing people with somewhere to actually go yeah it's important to get

  • 2:14:51

    out the house oh no that I agree with it so I'm happy to see other people get out of the house now well it just had a

  • 2:14:57

    point what it just fed up man it's like I would get it if this thing is here to stay and everybody's eventually going to catch it then listen man let's just this

  • 2:15:05

    just meet this thing head-on I think that's what people are starting to feel like waves when when when I can't ask

  • 2:15:11

    this to Rorion Park so I'll just look you know and talk to you when will you start or have you started coercing women

  • 2:15:16

    to fly to you yet no I haven't [ __ ] crazy [ __ ] use that you shouldn't do

  • 2:15:23

    that of course I'm gonna do anything of course you could ask them convinced or suggest suggest suggest suggest offer

  • 2:15:30

    maybe offer reasons why they should maybe respectfully that's what I mean that coerce not gone not anything toxic

  • 2:15:38

    you ever suggested those things yet but few much in there at least too much oh you missed a strong I mean I'm trying to

  • 2:15:44

    be just checking just checking alright anything else that we need to deliver our opinions on or can we take them all

  • 2:15:51

    home and not share them that's fine yeah we have Saturday that's true

  • 2:15:59

    Saturday we will be home we'll still be recording from zoom while I hate it I'm

  • 2:16:05

    not mad at it on Fridays while state of the culture is up I'm not coming over here [ __ ] you all taking advantage of

  • 2:16:11

    some [ __ ] ah but I really did enjoy this Tuesday getting out the house showering throwing on some Cologne human

  • 2:16:17

    interaction since they all hanging out getting back into the old swing of things I did enjoy this yeah it was cool the zoom [ __ ] I just feel like you lose

  • 2:16:23

    a lot in podcasting yes the audio is great yes yeah it feels like some of the

  • 2:16:32

    soul is just stripped there's yeah intangible chemistry that's easier in person yeah and for me that's what

  • 2:16:38

    podcasts are built on I appreciate everybody that rolled out with us rock with us especially for that first zone

  • 2:16:44

    with the bad audio thank you for your patience and kindness um and other than that I think I'm done any new music

  • 2:16:50

    coming out actually have y'all changed Europe any opinions on the future project I know we had to talk about it it's only

  • 2:16:55

    that came out but now that it's been out is anyone's opinion different has anyone going back to it I'll be honest no

  • 2:17:01

    because I haven't gone back to it I've gone back to it maybe once but it's not again its future it's nothing it's

  • 2:17:08

    nothing really new for me I got it it's not a bad outfit so bad it's not a good album's future just like okay listened

  • 2:17:16

    in my crib music yeah you know that you know I would play I would listen to this

  • 2:17:22

    record again yeah I may have a different opinion that I've been out if we were outside yeah got it totally understood

  • 2:17:27

    oh you know what guys I just want to thank y'all man you've been like thanks

  • 2:17:34

    bull you have been great tonight thank you for your thank you I mean you really are been some stand-up gentleman I gotta

  • 2:17:39

    think if y'all don't hear it enough ma'am I want y'all to hear from me stand up guys to even we're sitting down yeah

  • 2:17:46

    especially when we're sitting down right it's very important to stand up when you sit down right you just try a little

  • 2:17:56

    channel orange orange today oh oh y'all

  • 2:18:02

    recording yeah yeah yeah we do this thing called a podcast oh I want to pay

  • 2:18:07

    attention for Mall thanking me oh thank me for something Thank You B understand I've got why you sit down Thank You Man I try always States and

  • 2:18:14

    toes downs you know the vibes yeah said always for me and tall fans Hall stand

  • 2:18:19

    tall you upstairs ever a time or maybe just nine toes it depends

  • 2:18:32

    it's just tough tonight have all your toes down at the same time if you look at balance of walking that's what I was

  • 2:18:38

    trying to flirt with Jojo last week and Rory was hating know wasn't it was being a creep so that's how flirting gold at

  • 2:18:45

    40 it's a creepy world you'll be there

  • 2:18:50

    soon yes that ten years I'm Rory gonna fly Rory gonna be 240 Oh white creepy

  • 2:18:56

    dude yeah look at you try to get you trying to

  • 2:19:02

    deflect from your creepiness on a call that sounded creepy that I as your friend was trying to help you work through no

  • 2:19:08

    yes you accentuated the creepy [ __ ] if you know I don't know if it would have been cool to she would she know she felt

  • 2:19:16

    uncomfortable so you know how to white people feel felt about me you know the

  • 2:19:21

    white girl yeah not about me all this that's true I'm done I don't have

  • 2:19:29

    anything else that I need to deliver responsibly on my platform this week I'd have no more opinions to share that's okay we've got another game Friday we

  • 2:19:39

    will be home that's a home game well away game yeah it's yeah it's an away

  • 2:19:45

    game from home this is home this couch is home man it's own court oh man good

  • 2:19:52

    to see you guys though this was great again good to get out the house good to get some fresh air some sunlight all

  • 2:19:58

    that good [ __ ] good to talk some [ __ ] with you guys in that over zoom without a delay all of this felt really really

  • 2:20:05

    good I appreciate you guys and thank you or thank you thank you again I want to shout out the essential workers of

  • 2:20:10

    course I want to shout out all the people that were driving in traffic shout out to all the people that are

  • 2:20:15

    earning more during unemployment than they would at their job and shout out to everybody to glue in this country

  • 2:20:21

    together during this pandemic man we appreciate you thank you stay safe wash your hands wear your mask take your

  • 2:20:28

    vitamins take your vitamins take your black oil seed black seed oil black oil

  • 2:20:35

    both take both take both into the next time we are getting out of here life is

  • 2:20:41

    a series of moments and moments pass so let's make this one last as if it's all we have until next time we bid you adieu

  • 2:20:48

    farewell arrivederci adios hasta LaVista all that good [ __ ] and we out here man

  • 2:20:56

    I'm going y'all hold it down we'll be back on Saturday Saturday

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    it's Saturday Saturday hold up Frank