36

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right!

And we are officially live. I'll name this podcast later. Episode

number 36. I'm your host Joe Budden. I'm here with I was about to say

the lovely, but that would have been horrible Last week asshole. Yeah, but I was

in a better mood last week. I'm here with Madi Madi the body. She's here.

Say hi. Hey Michael Roars is here. I guess it's a thing now It's cold

in here. It's usually a hundred degrees today. It's 30 degrees everywhere that I've been

today has been freezing. Oh As far as the temperature goes I don't think people

got the memo that the season has changed which I'm a very big fan

of But we'll talk about that later. I have Deon say here and her

lace on the forehead She didn't need to say we have now Danielle's here

Dan Daniel is a part. Don't do that again Daniela's a part of Marissa's

squad And you've been on this podcast before while I was absent. No, that was

Samira. Samira was on here. She's been on the artwork before, though. But you've never

actually been on the podcast. Well, Deontay does have a new lace front, and it's

making her forehead extremely relevant. Girls have big foreheads. They do. Girls with good pussy

do have good foreheads, so shout out to you. Yes, they do. What are you

clapping about? I don't know. I have a big forehead and good vagine. We'll talk

about that in a second. I think we're getting beside the point. Debatable. And

we have a guest here. Internet. We have a special internet. Drumroll. Internet.

I'm sorry my drumroll is horrible. Oh, we don't have any sound effects combat Jack

is here. Yo, what's up? People thanks for having me on him. I am I

am I can't tell you people how ecstatic I am that combat Jack is here

How ecstatic are you man? You're one of the people that I just like. I

appreciate that man. And I don't, I don't like. Yeah, you don't like a lot

of people. Joe hates everyone. I don't like very many people, but from when I

first met Combat Jack on, when I did his podcast, I'm a fan of intellectual

men in particular. Okay, thank you, man. And you were just very warm. You were

very personable. And that experience always stuck with me. And I followed you from then.

So this is great for me. That was one of the rare mushy moments that

I will have on this podcast. We know you don't like intellectual women. We did

numbers, too. That episode did good numbers, man. Did it? It did great numbers. Well,

all your episodes did really good. No, no, but that was a good one, man.

because we asked about love and hip-hop and then it got on that wave and

and and and and it it did well i didn't know very much about combat

jack when i first did his podcast and it was one of the more it

was one of those days it was a press day It was at the end

of the press day and I just come off answering the same questions all day

long and I got the uh, Combats podcast and it was an amazing interview. It

was one of those interviews where I was fully engaged even though I was probably

Exhausted and ready to go home. So I did appreciate that. I appreciate that too,

man, and I'm glad it did numbers I'm glad it

did numbers too man. Thank

you. And now he's using

your album as a coaster. We have

a nose-nitching policy in here, but for when they snitch except for No, that's

normally you know now I will warn you yes on that that you know

your podcast is A bit more cultured than this one. That's alright. I've listened

to this podcast. Yeah. Oh great. So, you know that we're Savages yeah, well

Joe and I have really intellectual degenerates conversations of substance Outside of this podcast for

some reason when we get in here we act like fucking idiots Well, because

when we try to talk about substance Marissa can't keep up Are you stunted

is that what they say no, no, I'm no, okay Well, can you tell

us a little bit about yourself for some people that may not have listened

the five people that haven't No combat I'm black Okay, I do a podcast.

All right. I like music done. I'm on this show. This is that good enough.

Oh, yeah. No, I mean, we're gonna dig deeper than that. Let's dig down now.

What is your background? My background in terms of um Haitian American. Oh, that's good

to know. I'm Haitian American first-generation American practice law. I'm an attorney Well, I mean,

I'm always gonna be an attorney. Yeah, I don't practice anymore, but I'm an attorney

and That makes sense. I'm an author Damn, you still work at the source. I

used to work at the source briefly how briefly I was trying to make it

to 12 months is that but wait is that when the source was the source

or is that when Benzino post Benzino. Okay, it was 2011. Oh and it was

Jesus. I'm old. Yeah, is that when you guys were in that like room? No,

no, we were down in Wall Street. We have the bowl The source it was

a room and then we went to a smaller office and then when I bounced

I heard okay up in the room So yes, I was pre room. So you

so you are well-traveled Yeah, I am. So what made you want to just do

a podcast? Um, I Became a blogger. I went from being like talk

about falling off. I went from being an attorney. Hey Blogger is a prestigious career.

I guess like the poorest form I enjoy it. No, what kind of blogs eat

like I do? Yeah. Okay, so you do I Yeah, so I'm talking about the

Renaissance of the blog the hip-hop blog era which was like around 05 06 I

was a lot of real long form because this is when I just left my

practice and I was just I You know, it was being really therapeutic in terms

of just expressing my experiences with Leor and Diddy and Dame Dash and at a

certain point after two years I ran out of shit to write. Well, you had

your own site, right? Yeah, I had my own site, The Daily Mathematics. But you

were also contributing to other sites, I saw. Yes, Complex, Source, XXL. I actually was

hired by XXL for a short stint. And then I ran out of shit to

write and then I got approached by this cat a king from the now defunct

PNC online radio show And he was like yo you Dallas won't you guys do

a show? So we were doing an online radio show called the combat jack show

and then we converted that into a podcast and the rest is history Oh, that's

great. And then he started the loudspeakers network The loudspeakers is the umbrella network We

have the Reed, Brilliant Idiots, Fan Bros, Ice-T's Final Level, Tax Stone, Tax, you know,

Ice-T is over there too? Ice-T just came over there. Ice-T is my neighbor. Really?

Yeah. So I've been in your neighborhood? Oh, always. Yeah. I see him everywhere I

go. That's a nice neighborhood, man. It's alright nice view. Yeah the same side as

Yeah, my house is not as nice as this built a beautiful American place, but

a pretty decent place now Do you gain video you game? No, never this tea

is a big game. He is not like no he is a big no no

You walk into T's house and he's got like replica like Gears of War machine

guns and like he's really into it Oh, yeah, what's his podcast about? About everything

events the life interviews. Yes a lifestyle. He's asked me to do that podcast

on numerous occasions It's funny. It's fun. Well, I love ice. We should have

him here too. We should do like a We did speak about that but

on cross-pollination I just didn't know that on The loudspeaker

network has all of the

podcast We're independent we don't

need to We're not monopolizing

we just have a lot

of momentum How do you decide how do you decide you gonna get the

shot? Oh, so so it comes down to You know, of course who the personality

is What their history is for ice tea. It was like it was a legendary

acquisition he had he had a podcast and We spoke about maybe him joining forces

and maybe us being able to help, you know in his momentum and in his

movement and he saw it and he jumped on it and Charlemagne is

on the Brilliant Idiots. My partner Chris Morrow has a relationship with Charlemagne. And

I guess Charlemagne felt that to be at his most uninhibited self, he needed

a podcast. And I think he loves it and he's done great for the

network. Both Kid Fury, who's on The Read. He's got great things about that

one. Yeah, it's our biggest I heard a lot about kid Fury's podcast. Let's take

Ali. They talk about that It's no he that kid is a superstar. That kid

is a freaking superstar. He's reaching my timeline every day Yeah, he retweets your on

your timeline. Yeah, I don't follow him. He's on my time But both Charlemagne and

kid fury were like yo fuck with this kid taxed on I So that's how

we you know saw tax and it's a myriad of things like what's your numbers

on social media? What how smart are you or how ratchet are you or what?

Are you bringing to the table? What do you bring into the table because we

wanted to have a network that spoke all voices You know I'm saying so I

guess on one end I'm like the highbrow like Charlie Rose of this shit brilliant

idiots are fucking idiots. I You know, and then they're brilliant, but they're brilliant. And

then the phenomena that that that's tax stone, you know, and tax series. I mean,

tax season is that he's bringing podcasts to the hood hood. Like I'm talking about

niggas that don't know what the fuck. Trust me, I've heard the fucking hood is

motherfuckers. Like, I don't know what a podcast is, but I fuck with tax shit.

And that's amazing. Like my shit is considered too highbrow for some of his audience.

But, you know, tax is a brilliant dude. And he, you know, is is a

sense of camaraderie. um and and we're just trying to make history we don't know

exactly what the we're doing because the is still brand new neither do we nobody

does brand how long is this uh how long has this um network been running

the network has been running mr about two years yeah yeah it's really yeah it's

really still brand new man oh man they got peter the out here they didn't

kill them they're still doing okay too peter's What are you talking about? No, no,

no. I'm talking about the idea of a network. Yeah, but geez, two years.

That's amazing. There's always strength in numbers. And now that Peter and I are the

best of friends. Well, you guys are on a much better page And they said

you were invited and then you weren't able to make it cuz you had left

already and then I was offended because no one asked me to do it Well,

I listen to um, I listened to you on When you were on Tax's podcast,

when that whole you and Pete shit was going on. And I won't delve too

much into that for the people that don't know. Yeah, that's over and done with.

And use your Googles if you want to go back. It's over. But when it

was happening... I agree with everything you said. Really? Yeah, I understood everything you were

saying, and it led me to have quite a few conversations with Peter. And listening

to your show, I did appreciate at least the public conversations that you guys had.

Yeah, and we've had many private conversations, because with me, a lot of people are

unable to see with With eyes that aren't their own. Right. So sometimes we don't

know how we come off. Right. And, you know, I talked to Peter all the

time. I just told him the other day, I said, I like you much better

on ESPN than I like you on hot. Like because he is he more in

his element. I haven't seen him on ESPN. No, he's more out of his element.

So that's not true particular about what he says. No, he's just on ESPN. He

is with Michael K and Don McGregor two very established people in sports radio, right?

Um, and he's he's added to the show to add some spunk and some flavor

but Peter is very knowledgeable when it comes to sports. So now not as knowledgeable

as those guys. Of course, um, But who is as knowledgeable as Michael? No, I'm

sorry. I was suggesting that he may be more knowledgeable in hip-hop than he is

in sports Yeah, just from the time I spent in that arena. Yeah, so in

97 He's a bit higher in class and may come off a bit more smug

when he's talking about hip-hop Rather than he would talking about sports among being the

new guy. Yeah, he's smug when he talks hip-hop. He's smug. I Yeah, it's not

come off smoke. He's smoked, but I do like him on ESPN much better. I

got I gotta check it out Yeah, well, I listen to sports radio. I don't

listen. I don't listen to FM radio right me neither period because it's just not

it's just not I'm old man. Yeah, I'm on I mean but but then it's

not just an age thing cuz my kids never listen to FM radio I do

Well you were a big fan. No, no, seriously, my 17, my 18 year old,

they don't listen to the radio. Well they probably didn't grow up on radio being

the surrounding force when it comes to music. Nah, the only time they were forced

to listen to radio was when I was driving them to school. And then when

I made the transition from terrestrial to satellite, they were listening to Stern. Of course.

A lot. The only time I've ever seen my kids listen to the radio, live

radio, was Beats 1 when they dropped the Future Drake mixtape. That's the only time

they listened to quote-unquote live radio. Mm. Their own of their own volition you listen

to Stern a lot every morning. He does damn near like a podcast I feel

like that's that's the closest thing. Well his interviews like his interviews like I wasn't

into Stern with all the crazy like white boy hijinks from like the 80s and

Jackie the Joke Man or even you know Artie who's become a good friend of

mine, but his interviews are I mean is it I If you listen to Howard

Stern on a daily basis, that's a daily course and how to interview people. It's

crazy Yeah, I listen to one a couple like at a party. We put it

on for an hour We just sat there and fucking listen to a rich Cronin

interview from 2009 and he's mastered I think you know in terms of what's what's

what's out there on the landscape right now? He's mastered the art of interviewing celebrities

and people that you don't give a fuck right and make it interesting. Yeah, I

You care about nobody. Exactly. That's probably why Howard Stern is Howard Stern. He is

the legend in radio that he is. He is the GOAT. Now, I was reading

something today. I'm already mad you're making my

pockets too mature already There's a story that

broke up that is stored in brick today

it rebroke today I guess with about that

that cat I Which cat? That pulled out his dick! Hey, I

walked right into that one. You did, you did. And combat has like all of

the fucking 80s fucking... I was just about to say the really shit my pops

used to say. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love it, I love it, I love it.

No, I'm talking about, and I feel bad for this kid, Drom, right? Oh, Cha-Cha!

So Drake put out the hotline, the video, bling video, which I guess you should

do that for a song that's shooting up the charts. So I do understand that.

His goal is to get a number one. And so it's perfect timing. I love

that video because it's like him dancing is the same to whomever. You're getting bodied

by a corny nigga. For real. He looks like my dad when my dad's cooking

and he knows it's gonna be like some good shit. He's like, ooh, this is

good. He's really continuing to prove that he can do whatever he wants and it

will be accepted by this audience. And it's amazing. But it was calculated. He had

to do memes and gifs all day. What'd you think about it, Joe? Um... Alright,

I it's twofold for me. I enjoyed I enjoyed Portia Jenkins. Mm-hmm The one of

the dancers and she was she looked immaculate one of the full-bodied. Yeah. Yes. Yeah,

very curvy. Yes Very attractive. I don't know her. Okay, I don't know I follow

her Instagram. That's the only reason I was able to Drake is Drake like the

plushest one. Yeah, you mean to hit Drake Drake Drake. We could talk about that

later but uh, Like the video I like the dancing I do think that it

was calculated. He did no means would come I like the evolution I remember when

Drake videos were really bad Yeah, that was like that was always his Achilles heel

that was like a knock on him So to see him in better videos to

see him dressed better Was he dressed better though? Just better a J's The sweater

thing like like I mean what I mean, i'm not canadian. I'm not fucking drake

I'm, not fucking on on top of the world, but dude like that You gotta

remember how drake used to dress though like like a young cosby So now it's

like less it's like the same sweaters but less colors. But yeah, so about the

the cha-cha thing The thing that was funny about that is when Drake Performed it

at his friend's wedding before dropping the song and it was like a sample video

that went around like Drake has a new song He's about to drop Everyone labeled

it as a cha-cha remix. They thought that's what that was. They thought he did

a verse on drum single Well, that's what I thought it was right and so

then it came out and it wasn't necessarily associated with the song But if you

go to a club they blend it with the song or whatever, but it doesn't

sound I mean Like the sounds aren't too similar. They're not too far apart. That's

the same beat Yeah, and so it's the same beat tinkered with now I saw

something on my timeline today from and I clicked on his page and he has

like a hundred thousand followers So I guess he's in the know somewhere somewhere. No,

no, not John Some guy said that Drake actually asked Ron to do a verse

on his song. Okay, and drum turned it down So, I don't know how true

that was. Like I said, I clicked on this guy's page. He seems like he's

in the know He has a good following. So now drama's his feelings. He's salty.

Well John tweeted. He tweeted. Um, I You stole my song. I feel like you

stole my song. You stole my song. But you know what? If that were to

happen... It's mine. Why is he just not suing? Yeah, because if you lifted the

song, then you get that money. But... Hey, entertainment lawyer, tell us what happened here.

What happened in this situation? We never fact-check on this show. Now we can fact-check.

I mean, I listened to the songs, and I could see the similarities. And... Musically.

Musically, but... Drum has to... Prove the blurred lines case. Well the blurred

blurred lines case I think was a little different because if you play

cha-cha and if you play um hotline hotline bling

I gotta listen to cha-cha again to see if it automatically reminds me of pull

up cha-cha of hotline bling But when you listen to blurred lines you hear the

Marvin Gaye song like you hear that song like I don't know if it's note

for note or whatever But it sounds identical No, I have it because and it's

right here because I went and immediately checked never mind in I When I

heard it, all right, I don't know if I'm doing this. What are we playing

for a shot shot shot shot? Okay Awesome this is hooked up. Damn you guys

are so tech savvy, right? I was in a rush cuz Joe did the Larry

Wilmore show. What is that? Oh The nightly show on comedy. How was that? How

was that man? Really good. Congratulations. Thank you That was a really good experience Larry

was real cool I was gonna invite myself in the group chat and then I

just didn't feel like Mess with this because that thing is taking too long But

I I fact-checked which I never do and I went to go check on this

chacha song that I'm not 100% familiar with it Oh, yeah I could see

Drake doing his little... Now, just listen to the

beef. Sounds like a sample, man. If it were

to be sampled. It sounds like a typical kind

of like... Bachata song. Cha-cha, merengue type, Latino type

of song. I like to cha-cha. Eventually

those chords are gonna change. Yeah, cuz this is a video, that's why. But we

can turn that off. Does it sound- That's enough in court! That's enough! To what?

To sue now not to drum that drum whoever created this beat right because the

Drake song is a different song altogether and as a different producer this beat is

that as that producer that did drum shit well did John produce that because he's

a producer as well I don't know okay We got to go to the fact

but whoever did we do that on the show? Yeah, that's because you got to

understand also. Yeah, you know ideas are contagious and Very ideas are contagious. So

it's a matter of whether this idea was floating around at the same time or

Drake's can't hurt Cha Cha was like yo, let's get that I have to play

devil's advocate. Yeah, we have drawn now From Toronto to right now dramas from Virginia

from Virginia. Okay, we had the two kids from Houston Sauce twins. Yes, sauce sauce

twins. Oh because he did the dance in the videos what they're saying They were

accusing Drake of stealing a bunch of shit, right? Yeah produced by Gabe Niles as

the guy that was okay Hey, Gabe, I think Drake is in a space where

none of this really matters I don't think yeah, it doesn't matter and and and

I think he's out of space where if he did or if someone along the

trail lifted it you can pay him and Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's like

so many motherfuckers. So what kind of numbers we talking? I mean, it depends like

at this point, you know initially some shit like that might be like 2500 5000

when it gets to this point my year 50 25,000 50 if it goes to

court shit could end up 5 10 15 20 million, you know, I mean well

where I feel bad for drama in this situation is people like Migos Makonnen Fetty

all got the Drake treatment which was let me take your record put a verse

on it. Yeah, make it bigger in this instance Just give me that record. Yeah,

that's all it was. It wasn't like Drake put a verse on cha-cha. He made

a whole new song What but that but that's but that's my argument That's a

whole new song hotline. Ling is a whole new song. It's not him rhyming over

cha-cha. I Yeah, maybe it's sampling credit at that point. I don't know if you

can really it is a new song I don't inspired by yeah, but that's what

the problem with what you call it was the other one Pharrell said he didn't

sample it at all He was inspired by you know, it's funny. I spoke to

everyone about the whole blurred lines thing and he was like, oh Pharrell's problem might

be that his the way his mind works. He's already got the song locked in

his mind So he's creating it not thinking he's recreating it, but he's so brilliant

that he's recreating it. Yeah, I could see it Yeah, and he was like, you

know if that's the case It's fucked up how the shit rolled out cuz he

didn't actually Jack it but he created the same fucking song and they got them

from Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah Well, I hear a lot of that and uh, what's

the guy's name Jadej? Well, they actually credited Iggy and paid those people for yeah,

I know I read that I read that it wasn't playing okay And they was

like we didn't even sample it but we're not playing those games. We're not going

to court We're not you're not Marvin Gaye me no blurred lines will pay you

but you know if you have money like one thing I notice is if you

have money like back in the day when I was doing deals and I remember

specifically one time one of my songwriters wrote Carl Thomas's I wish I never met.

Mm-hmm. I think we've heard of it. Yes, I'm trying to call Thomas and so

we got a call one day from them lived it and it was for Jay

Z's I just wanna and they were like that that that piece I you know,

man, I wish I never met her at all They were like, yeah, we're ready

to pay for that shit. Mm-hmm Like people we could we could argue it's parody.

We could argue that we're not really sampling that this is just a nod. They

paid a check and they were like, fuck. I mean, that's such a I mean,

it's it's it's it's it's different in terms of where you are leverage wise, which

you have in your pocket and just how savvy you are with the business. Like

it may be a lawsuit. It may not be a lawsuit here. Take this check.

Why even risk it? So how much how much was that? I mean, I know

in back then I mean it was it was nominal because it was like yo

word y'all are paying us for that fucker We'll take it. Yeah, like really it

was like oh, we'll take it Such a surprise that the other approaches say but

that's like real nigga shit you have these you have these people out here that

are You know they will go to they'd stop it nothing to extort and Just

make a come-up off of the most tedious of details like that. I wish I

never met her arguing parody shit I Would take that check - yeah, it was

it was a decent surprise man you brought up push it will you stand on

on on push and drink if they were ever if they would ever go at

it and Which I do believe will happen one day one day someone's

gonna push her and Drake. Yeah, what do you stand on that? Kendrick and

Drake Define subliminal for me. I'm talking about you, but if you're paying attention,

you know I'm talking about you but cats that might not know that I'm

talking about you won't know I'm talking about like Kendrick's reference the ghostwriter shit

a couple Was definitely about Drake was definitely knew it but those are subliminals But

when you come out and say yo, yo, fuck you Drake like Kendrick's a Control

verse right was not so subliminal But then again that was kind of masked in

the sense of when I'm just casually calling you out as my peer and not

necessarily Yeah, I didn't anything was a dis either. But yeah, give me up I

don't think we'll see Kendrick and take over an ether. We're not subliminal at all

at all. I The good old days and right at all. Oh, we'll never get

that again. No 50 we get we get one Subliminal in 50 cents body. Yeah,

you know what I'm saying? Yeah now push it. Oh, say poor John. Oh

50 killed a man's career ten years ago. We still around I mean he's a

reality show coming up. He made it out, but he soiled his fucking name his

legacy to like he was so hip hip hip and now it's like you say

oh, but you know what though I think and and I'm not I'm not necessarily

arguing against you but I The quality of music that that job made during his

reign yo that made our house can't I can't deny that shit Yeah, and when

you when you get nostalgic and when you hear those songs, you It's like oh

shit like it takes you back to that moment that was like the epitome of

like being 10th 9th 10th grade on the school bus singing those fucking songs. Him

and JLo and Asante and what? We thought we were JLo. Yeah if Put It

On Me comes on right now just get up and start dancing. Exactly. But now

Ja had joints after that after um He did. He did a song in '07

called "Body" or something like that. I fucking like that song. No one else did,

but I like that song. I don't know if I recall that song. And his

publishing and, you know, just... Oh, I mean, he's making bread. I'm just saying, like,

his name and how... His name was tarnished. He's left out of a lot of

conversations now because of what 50 did. But I think it's starting to come back.

Yeah. You know, 50's an asterisk to his name. Yeah. But, I mean, and then

if you look beyond Ja, you know, Irv is now a legend. Like, Irv Gotti

is a legend. 100%. I agree. That is true. Yeah. But you duck my dog

duck my push Because you know when I talk about shit

like this I Comes back to me. Yeah, we know all about that

All I could say is I'd love to see that, you know, I'd love to

see a good battle would be some push and And and and and Drake because

we know Drake has momentum I think Drake has the advantage but I think to

his benefit We've come to sleep on pusher And that puts pusher. I don't good.

They don't put me in the week Okay, but but no I'm saying collectively like,

you know, we're all waiting for pushing to drop his shit and I love pusher

but I Would hate to see pusher and like really like turned up and unlike

me push it thinks before he speaks And he is probably equally as calculated district.

We haven't been able to see that Unlike me push it can rap that's number

one Wasn't meek like the celebrated like battle not by this podcast. Well, no, you

know what it is Jack I Now we hear that going around right meek was

this battle rapper punchlines and we haven't seen that we haven't seen that on this

arena we saw the the footage of him with the dirty braids rapping to a

Camera and that is why everybody calls him a battle rapper I don't think we've

ever seen him battle the way battle rappers are battling and we do know also

that battle rappers may not necessarily make the best records Yeah, and we know that

as well now if and that's what that's one two Meat can rap. Yes. So

let me clarify this for the listeners. When I say I'm talking about a much...

higher Level of rapping right meat can rap, you know, they're not gonna take that

sound by it Pusha is different. Oh, yeah He's one of the gentleman that like

he's somewhere waiting for someone to say something for him - yeah He's one of

those you don't really want to mess with people and that's what I mean like

people are sleeping on His skills. Yeah. To his benefit. It'll be that much more

of a conversation. Who doesn't know that Pusher is an amazing MC? The casual fan

that we've discussed multiple times. The casual fan doesn't know that. It's been a while

since Pusher has really been in a conversation. And as the industry goes right now,

as listeners go, that's eons. Whatever you've done for me lately. Yeah, exactly. So he's

not in a conversation. So people are not expecting him to drop some hot shit

until he does. With a casual fan, we just saw Drake. Kill Meek. So now

in the casual fan's head is Drake can battle. Right. Drake in battle. Yeah,

and Drake is very smart. I think is calculated like like like there's so

many levels to back to but there's so many levels I think he's calculated

charged. I'm not so many fucking levels Yeah, yeah now that today I'll concert

the title concert That concert is happening right as we speak but last night

to the listeners I Yeah, last night so you guys dropped

the next day. Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah, we drop

in the morning I was telling Rory because I'm actually

scheduled to be on taxes podcast Really next week and

he records on Monday. Oh And drops Wednesday. Now, we complain here about recording

Tuesday. We used to record Tuesday afternoon and dropping Wednesday because it seemed like something

would always happen on Tuesday night that you needed to touch on. And we just

always missed it. So I'm amazed. Not so much at your podcast because y'all have

a lot of substance on your shit. But like tax Monday to Wednesday, I would

be petrified of that gap. I mean, one thing is we do have a good

team, man. Not saying y'all don't have a good team, but we have a good

team. This is the team. I got a shout out on one of our producers,

Jonathan Mena, who works both on the Combat Jack show and Tax Season. And, you

know, he's up all night. Like, if you give him something, if there's a deadline,

he's making that deadline. Editing that shit, shaving shit off, adding shit. Like, he really

adds texture to the shows, man. Yeah, I'm doing Texas podcast and that's supposed to

be my podcast enemy. Really? Fake. People are trying to pitch out against each

other or? Because both of y'all. Well, we both drop on Wednesdays. I think

that's probably it. Yeah, that's it. Outside of our jokes. Do you guys joke?

With you know you we joke And like what is a podcast beef like there's

no such thing to me there's no such thing as a podcast There can be

podcast be explain it to me. I mean that's if you legitimately don't fuck with

the person. Okay, so Okay, so When I wasn't fucking with Rosenberg. I

never. It was personal. I never viewed that as a podcast. No, it was personal.

But then, and I spoke about it when we were at the panel down at

A3C. Um. So me being kind of like a snob in terms of what I

do and in me feeling a type of way about Rosenberg at the time whenever

somebody would say, oh, I fuck with the Combat Jack show and Juan Epstein or

vice versa. I'd go, oh, my show is not their show. OK, you know what

I'm saying? Like, no. And it took. Me to grow me to let go of

that shit and then us to resolve that shit this to realize that We were

two different sides of the coin in a sense because of their level appreciation for

the for the for the for the talent that they bring on and And ours,

but it's just two different shows. Yeah, you know, but I just used to hate

my ego used to be like no, that's not me It's like, you know, I

felt like if somebody was comparing and i'm not calling this them and that but

it's like if somebody's comparing your music to Soldier boy, right? Hmm. You're

writing that would be insulting Shout out the soldier, but you know I'm saying you're

not sitting on soldier, but you like her and you know what I realize and

what I've come to appreciate about one Epstein is that you know, they're the fanboys

kind of like sophomoric like Yeah, we're just happy to be in a room with

you guys, you know, I mean so when they would come, you know And I'd

be like like, you know, I'd be the bourgeois like don't compare me to guys

Yeah, I get it. Yeah, I get it. That makes sense. So that added to

the I And fans will make it that way too because fans will look like

oh well if they're beefing that I gotta choose size Always and then you kind

of get amped off of what they're saying to on social media, so you just

I never viewed my mine and taxes situation to be anything like that because I

guess similar to what you were saying. But I don't think people would pitch y'all

against each other. It's us being crazy. It's us being crazy in what we do.

And it's enjoyable for me as I'm sure it's enjoyable for him. But I always

viewed it as they're two different podcasts that serve two different purposes with two different

audiences and two different... So I never... I was a little tight that he decided

to drop on Wednesdays. Yeah. I mean, I mean a lot of it after you

guys started well, yeah, okay We're about ten episodes ahead of tax I can

definitely tell you though that just in terms of how we program our schedules

It wasn't something intentional more like we can't drop all of our shows Yes,

Rob Markman special oh wait a minute wait a minute I'm cool being in

the way Wait a minute. No, man. We getting an independent bread, bro. I don't

need to join Empire. What the fuck is going on over here? Nah, we don't

need to report to the man. Nah, 'cause Combat over here is extorting all them,

taking all they ad money. I see the G. We get to the bottom of

this shit. I see the G. I see all of the videos. But wait, what

is the, and I have now personalized this podcast. What incentive does, why is everybody

over there? But we started with Pete. Marissa, Marissa, Marissa. I'm not talking about us.

Stop personalizing us. You're the person who's personalizing it! I think, you know,

in terms of the business of the podcast. So my partner Chris

Morrow really understands the business of podcasting. He understands the relationship

with his advertisers, the mainstream podcast advertisers as well as the

independent advertisers. We provide the studio. We provide production. Some of

these shows we provide the concept. Mm-hmm, you know we come up with the

concept and help them develop the concept and we're very fair with the splits We're

very very famous in thing puff said it a lot. Yeah Hope there's no refrigerators

in the refrigerator and I'll tell you this man like for the most part man

Our shit is not like fuck you sign this it's like yo if you rock

with us you rock with us if you feel like we recently we had Not

beef, but we had kind of like some turmoil with one of our shows and

they were like, we don't like this, we don't like that. We're like, all right,

cool, man. You know, be out. Like, we're good. We're good. We're good at Empire.

We're good at Empire. Go try it on your own little... And mind you, they're

not little. Like they came with their own machine, but it was like, if you're

not happy, we don't want to keep you here. Like this was an idea that

worked in concept. If it's not working in reality, then we're good. There's no slander.

There's not like that. Shake hands and be gone. Tell me where you stand. And

this is totally left field. Tell me where you stand on Derek Fisher and Matt

Barnes. let me tell you what happened okay so wait a minute so matt barnes

is lying on his dick number one well yeah and then he's been a character

before was digging out his wife ex-wife ex-wife and then my man drove miles to

confront him with them hands yeah and were hands placed Yeah, I'm trying to inform

the people that don't know who came up on that and they say that uh,

they say that Matt Barnes came out Okay, so What's the question like where do

you stand? Do you agree with that behavior from from Matt Barnes? If you have

an online on his dick or no, no defending his ex-wife's honor Well, if we're

on when she's here you guys started in your No, it's fine. You can do

it randomly. I don't know if there's honor if she's a consent consensual sex with

this person Oh, so you're not defending her honor. She chose this what I'm asking

here man is you know, Joe, you know, there's no rules in this shit. I

There's no rules in this love shit. You can't go beat up There's no Love

shit damn. Oh, I wasn't saying anyone's well, no, no, no, we're not saying especially

if she was up There's no rules to this shit. Like if there's feelings you

don't know what the undercurrent is You don't know what that situation is. It's his

ex-wife and I who knows what his relationship is with Derek. I Well, apparently, it

said that they were friends and well, they were teammates. Yeah. I don't know the

degree of their friendship. That's kind of, you know, that's kind of, yo, like we

were teammates, fam. Like, you know her. You knew her. That's my wife, son. And

it was a rumor going around that Derek Fisher had done that to a few

other people as far as dating. That's a violation. Girlfriends and exes. Means he's the

coach of my team, right? I mean that that's all I care about is a

culture Their culture is a coach who used to be a player. Yes, don't you

do our sports segment? Aren't you supposed to know these things? Listen, there's no rules

for this shit. There's no we all know there's no rules to this shit as

what do you think? So you're falling back like like there's no rules. I'm not

I'm not going to beat well I can't say that because at one point I

did go try to beat up somebody who was fucking with my ex see you

did and and and and and when you look back You're like, maybe I should

have done that But when you in that moment you were right when you were

in that moment you were right, right? I There's no rules for this love shit.

Was there something said that really sparked you to go do that on her behalf

or his behalf? You know how women, they often bring up shit that men totally

don't understand. They're like, you wouldn't understand because that's woman shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. At

the time that this was going on, I felt like it was some undercurrent of

man. Flagrancy? Yeah, there was some man laws being violated. You didn't handle your business,

son. Yeah, and I needed to go correct it. If you're going to take this

L, at least take some personal pride with you. It wasn't about the girl. It

was about the guy's motive. With the girl. The girl was a pawn for him.

And that happens. That happens a lot. That happens a lot in relationships. And I

mean, some guys I could, you know, I could empathize. Some guys are like, yo,

you might be able to have, you can have that, but you always gonna remember

this. Ass whooping. True. This is the price you're gonna pay for that relation. This

is the cost of admission to that relate to that to that relationship. Yeah, well

I could see I mean I can never really get mad at the gentleman if

he's being quiet about it and respectful about it But if you were dirty macking

behind and my name was brought up to get this pussy Yeah, you might need

to be held accountable for that. Yeah, but if you have a dirty mack Nah.

There's an epidemic going on. I never dirty my... It's disgusting. This generation of kids...

Which I don't understand because at least grown women know or should know that if

a man is bringing up another man to fuck you, you probably shouldn't have his

dick anywhere near you. Well, the thing about men... That that dirty Mac this way.

I don't know why they don't know that it always gets back. Yeah, like clockwork

It always comes bad. I'm not sure what I've never been there. She's fucking you

I've never been that that type of gentleman to try to get pussy or come

up on Somebody else's merit. Yeah. Yeah, that's crazy. That's just a bit off to

use your own fucking but there's a lot of things I mean, I'm going on

19 years married next month. She's how I'm sorry. Yeah. Wait. No. No. How did

you do that? Oh because you got 119 years when you're in 2015 See that

was when it was safe to be married. It was safe to get married 96.

I don't know. It seems a little bit You're still nine. Yep. It seems a

little more difficult to get married today in this generation. I mean, I don't know

what it is with the attention span and fucking social media and Instagram and Twitter

and snapchat, I don't understand what that shit is. It's a gratification fucking society So

if you fuck something up, I'm not gonna fix it I'm gonna just go get

something better and what's the attention span because what I've learned is that shit is

a lot of patience Yeah, it's a lot of patience and also we were really

fortunate because you know both of us are from Brooklyn and her pops It was

a stand-up guy. So like even when we had friction he was like y'all need

to fix this shit and Oh, yeah, that's not happening today. You know what I

mean? Like, no, it's not happening. Even then, that was rare, though. Because most pops

are going to take their daughter's side. He was like, y'all got to fix this.

Y'all got to fix this. And I think family is a circumstance, extended family, how

they were raised. You know what I'm saying? How they understand the importance of a

family and kids. So it really is a village, man. It's more than just the

two individuals. Well, most of the women in this generation were not raised with that.

Right. Around them. Most a lot some. Or not raised period. Or not raised period.

Yeah. This shit right here scares me. It's a bit different. It scares me, man.

Yo. This shit is a mess. But you look like you having fun though, man.

I'm not. I'm not. I'm so not. You make it look like you're having fun.

Yo, I gotta come. Well, I'm not coming to your pool party. You. You and

your wife could come. A female wife could come. You and your wife could come.

I was just watching a video from the 2012 one, man. Good times. Couples came

and had a great time at the pool party. Yeah, and couples were made at

that pool party. Yeah. That was a couple therapy every day, Wednesday, 10 p.m. So

fun, man. Even your pain and anguish. And I know it's even more serious. Even

the pain and anguish looks fun. It's real pain and it looks... He turns it

into fun music. You're so sincere, dude. I wouldn't say fun. You know what I'm

saying? Regardless if you're wrong or you're right. You're so sincere and that shit it's

it's from afar It's admirable admirable because a lot of these people are fuck boys

and how they try to perceive you present themselves as something they're not You know,

I'm bad at that. Yeah, I'm bad. I can never present myself as someone now

You can't he's got to take me flawed and yeah And and yeah, but I

just want to get married now. Actually, I was ready to get married. Oh, no

That's a whole other thing. I I would like to think that I am marriage

for men is the hardest thing because as a man I realized that we are

the more selfish of the species okay, and Every day that goes by you got

a strip a layer that shit off and try to get selfless and that shit

is is It's not it doesn't come natural. It's a it's an effort hmm. That

shit is an effort and But I can we got I don't have I don't

have much I'd like to think that I'm pretty selfless when I'm invested right I'm

just not invested very often because I haven't met anybody to be invested right with

um And then what happens when they push those buttons? Oh, they gotta go they

gotta go if I'm not invested. Well. No I'm saying if you're if Invested and

they start pushing because that's when the truth because women push button To this

day 19 years later she will push those buttons and I'll be like yeah

I'm about to push you out the motherfucking window I had a woman try

to explain me explained to me recently that it um It would be nice

if a man behaved not psycho or crazy but teetering the line and that would

let her know that he cares. I think that's what women want to see. We

want that nice colored shirt. I don't understand the logic in that. I mean, it's

how I think it's it's it's the animal kingdom still and it's like, yo, how

how how hard are you ready to go for this? Are you ready to fight

for this shit? I don't know if I'm gonna give women that

much credit but that's your most vulnerable state is when you're that angry and the

way you react is Typically who you are in that instance. I've had to fight

in the club But it was but but that once once I got through that

level it was like, okay, we're good now like we're good like I Much we

love that like yo girl. He got so fucking mad. He was in a club

fighting for my honor Okay, so so when I this was everybody's baby for you.

Shut up. I think it was like 99 and And and I'm in the club

swings on somebody and like it's a whole legal community is like yo Reg went

off and she came home cuz they escorted me out and I had you know

I just jumped in the castle and she came you shouldn't have done that but

but out the Quality of our relationship shifted. Mm-hmm. How so because she was like

you can go there and So maybe I feel safer than you cared. Maybe I

feel safe around you You know I'm saying like even like my wife is bad

like she's a bad chick So when she's walking with me, she feels safe and

comfortable if cats are harassing her I'll lose my shit. You know I'm saying well

I always say I've said for many many many years now that I do believe

that women need to know that it can happen Yes, you have that and that

you take in you but I Mean I guess it would be a solely on

the woman to not take advantage of that like I've had chicks in past relationships

where chick is like yo I might fuck your boy, and I'm like I'm good.

Well see that's what makes us when you go from safe Yeah, that's what I'm

saying I'm not vested and they really want data they want that security that that

you will go all out for them. Yep, that psychology is really I Used to

be that way with way with my mother my mom used to let me run

the streets all hours of the night mom do you care like what if i

get killed at four o'clock in the morning like we want to know even though

i didn't want a curfew i didn't want to have to be home at 10

o'clock and then at night like danielle had curfews all the time yeah but I

didn't like that. I felt that it seemed like she didn't give a shit what

I was doing on the street So it's the same thing with a man like

streets of Fords. Oh, right. Oh, shut up to Ford's so same thing with a

man I want I want to know that you're concerned that I'm You know gonna

be with you like I do you think there's another way to go about that

rather than I'm not saying swing on every man No, no, I'm not saying I

want to push his buttons every day I don't want him to swing on every

man that looks my way sometimes I guess my issue with that and I said

this to the young lady I was speaking with is that I For me reciprocity

is important. So to me, I know I don't want to see a crazy button.

I don't want to see I don't want to see you act nuts. I want

a peace of mind. I want serenity. I want tranquility. I don't want disruption. We

all want that as well. That sounds really good. No, no, no, no, no, no.

What the fuck are you? We don't want a fucking turned up 24-7. We are

fighting to the death either. We just want to know or see everything. once in

a blue that there is a level that you will fight for me should that

situation arise. Should something happen, I know that you are going to go that distance

for me and I feel secure with you. Let me ask y'all a question. What

do you think about the shit that Victor Cruz's fiance did? Don't like it. You

don't like I don't like it. I don't like it one bit and I know

again I don't understand the psychology behind it right now I'm sure that there was

a method to her madness. She added all of these. Oh, she added all these

women in the group chat um Sent this long soliloquy to basically said hey, we're

all fucking the same nigga. So let's get along like and fall back bitches, right?

I know y'all very clear And it went when bitches want other bitches to fall

back do they ever fall back? No, they never fucking Unless they get step to

though unless they get step to right by the man by the woman nobody woman

Oh, no, cuz now it's a competition wasn't step two. Oh That was a passive

aggressive please it wasn't a warning shot like oh She's not gonna really step to

them and now that to those girls that probably already really knew it doesn't matter

what he was telling Of course, they know he's married two eyeballs. They see they

use the internet So now to them it's a competition like now let me show

this bitch I still can one of her you think that you think that Contacting

me got you something now watch this. I'm gonna still fucking man tomorrow. What's dangerous?

You know, what's really weird with women's ego? It only pertains to other women because

a man or pardon a woman will run back to an ancient man at any

moment no matter what he does to her but But the moment another woman mentions

that he ain't shit, she'll pop off. It's on, yeah. Which is the weirdest fucking

thing ever. Why is that ego not consistent? I think that's like with everything, though.

Like, you could talk shit about a family member all day the second someone else

talks shit about you. Well, not even in that case. I think that's actually kind

of dope. Because it kind of... I've been in situations where me and my wife

are not good. Then somebody will disrespect me and she's right ready to go ready

to go because that's right or die, which I think is true But where Victor

Cruz wife and I wasn't there Should be posting her energy should be within her

marriage with Victor Cruz not getting her ego back by saying hey bitches I know

about show but I think sometimes I don't have to There you go back step

out and be like listen like just like I think it was a like I'm

crazy I'm crazy like I'm I'm I'm not a fan. I'm not a fan of

Women or people period right? Getting messy on social media right right? That's a whole

different was in her text box pause It was the it wasn't on social media

right? That's the fucking social media. That's how we found out what yeah, but the

other girls posted That's a that's a flagrant pause. What did what did he just

pause text text box? Oh? Rory, let me get that text box girl. Why are

we pausing text box? Oh come on, grow up Rory. Anyway, because he has a

teal shirt on. I have a teal shirt on. It is teal. It's a lovely

color. I want that text box. I saw that whole Victor Cruz ordeal on the

internet. Right. But that was the other girl. What do you think is going to

happen when you text 200 bitches or however many women it was and you think

one of them is not going to clown you and put it online? As he

said before, though, like you're in the moment. This is right. This is right. I'm

not thinking. In hindsight, it ain't right. But in the moment, shit. In the moment,

it's right. This feels good. In the moment, it's right. But let me ask you

this. This may sound real fucking chauvinistic of me. Not you. Not Joe. Not Joe.

Not on this show. Not 10 puns on the list. Didn't know we're still gonna

get a reason to put tab on the list Oh Damn, and how you guys

made me forget where I was going to learn Wednesday's. Oh now do you think

that do you think that I? This that Victor Cruz's fiance knew about this

infidelity the entire time I don't know but women had do have that

intuition if you deal with an athlete in the rapper. Do you think

that? actor anybody in that field Feel like I've got a signing up for that

shit. Yes, I'm not saying you gotta accept it Yeah, you are signing as we

talked about with that too, though There might be levels to that shit like don't

ever let me find out about it or it's fucking on and maybe he fucked

up so bad That it was like it's fucking on she didn't find out about

she went his fucking phone. We don't know how she found out Well, I'm just

gonna make shit up on his show I want to bring up something you just

brought up excited debate today. Yeah women's intuition, right? Does it exist? Yes Thank you,

Dan. I'm not mother's intuition. I'm saying women. No, no, no. Like, I've seen, like,

I've... Shit, I'm putting my shit all out. No, no, this is a good topic.

Okay, so... I met somebody once, like, just, like, one day, and I was like,

oh, she's really cute. And then, like, two days later, she was at a party

with me and my wife and, like, maybe 300 other people. And we're chilling. And

then that girl walks by, and my wife is like, who is she? Mm-hmm. I

just met her. I don't know her but you know I'm saying that she she

picked up on that shit There was like at least a hundred women in the

room. She's like who's that? Now does your wife not normally behave this way? She's

not a sucker. You know I'm saying she's she's not she's not riding me. I'm

saying she's not like every day She's not going through the phone, but she does

as she calls. I'll do a spot check motherfucker I will do a spot check

every now and then spot check is important. I guess yeah, and but it just

it just I Like I said, I wasn't travels and scheming or anything, but I

was attracted to this woman and she was like the mad bad chicks in the

in the room She's like who's that? No, wait a minute. I don't know if

that's intuition as much as together for 19 years Yes, I'm dealing with women for

example that I've been with for two years right and I To me, intuition, even

if I have a feeling, like, hey, maybe my significant other is cheating. Trust your

feelings. I hear that. But my immediate reaction is not going to say, let me

go accuse her. It's going to say, hey, let me try to find some evidence

and some logic and then approach her the correct way about it. Oh, that's logical.

Yeah. But, you know, people don't always. So women, intuition to me is they have

any feeling that just pops up in their head and they react on it. That's

not intuition. That's fucking so so in these instances where this person was reacting. This

isn't a specific Was acting on personal to me, but on intuition Were they accurate

i've had times where they were i've had times where they were okay, so it's

but I mean that's that's just picking up on body language and behavior I wouldn't

say that's intuition. I believe that woman's intuition exists. Yes Don't believe that the majority

of women know how to use it That's what I think right like that instance

that you just saw it spoke of I do believe that that was intuitive. It

was yeah, I Couldn't explain that shit. I was like, yo, well, it's one of

those one of those types Did I move a certain way did I you know

I'm saying what was what was the tell I've been in that that Circumstance before

exactly what a woman I'm like that Intuition exists. Yeah, how the fuck would she

know? How would she know that? Shut the fuck up Marissa's not

disgusting. Um, listen, yeah, we're off base here. We're done with women.

Well, no, I Got a Michael roars man. Oh, go ahead. Let

me tell you I got applaud him. I We uh, I had a

gig in Long Island Friday night. You didn't tell me to come. I didn't want

you to come. So we went out there. How often do you gig, man? Do

I gig? He's about to tour. Twice a week? Yeah. Twice a week. I start

a tour in November. My New York date is November 9th. How many cities? I

was about to say. On the tour, we're doing... 1920 something somewhere around here. I'm

sorry, I'm sorry. And who's on the tour? Me. Just you? And me. Anybody opening

up? Yeah, we got some openers. Surf is opening on some dates. I got my

guy Trevor Rich opening on some dates. And then local talent. Nice. Depending on the

city that we're in. Nice, nice. And Squarespace just did the tour website. So I

will put that in the bio of this where they can click and buy tickets.

We have a whole Squarespace did a whole just for the tour website. And you

know who's going to be doing Joey's beard on the fucking tour? No, we're gonna

get to that. We're gonna get to that. We're gonna let Rory control the sponsor

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the plug correctly in a minute. Or

incorrectly Long Island it was me. Sorry. We went to dinner Me and

some of my closest friends. Oh, oh, can I get through a story?

Thank you very much. Um, it was all men. It was all men.

I'm one of the guys You got a pussy My friends

get a real kick out

of me be No fucking

gift number people were like

Read some article they were like like like Joe buttons is so in tune

and he's like forward-thinking I read it somewhere. Yeah. No, I read that. Yeah.

Oh nice. Well, I'm glad and I was like, yeah You're like, you know

the advocate right now. I was pretty Well from for me it's very normal

me I'm not Caitlin saved you Yeah, but for me

like I'm not homophobic I'm not transphobic like before

you knew you wanted to tap that and Well you were

just a little tick in the back of the newsroom. I gotta clear that up

too. I gotta, because I did see an interview that the young lady Carmen did

where she was speaking about the same thing, saying how I'm an advocate spokesperson for

the transgender and accepting and all this shit. And she said, yeah. And he wanted

to tap it. Nup, nup, nup, nup, nup, nup, nup. Let's slow it down. And

that particular scene when I said, A, I wanted to tap you. I was referring

to wanting to tap Kalen to say, hey, are you hearing this? Not, I wanted

to tap. But some people did. I thought that's what you... So no, I took

that as I wanted to tap you like you realize what's going

on Thinking dude up until now you've thought Joe wanted to fuck

a tranny Know either way, you know, I thought you know, he

was I'm trying to tell her physique. Well, let me be clear

that niggas fine. I She. She. Well, she is fine. Thank you. But

let's be perfectly clear. We said that last week. If you don't know that this

woman used to be a man. I don't know many men that are gonna look

and say, "That's an unattractive woman." 'Cause that's not an unattractive woman. - She's an

attractive woman. - Yeah, that's what I'm saying. - Bottom line. - Yeah, yeah. Now,

I'm not inserting myself there, and that's not what I was saying there. I don't

know how this conversation even got here. - You're not getting inserted. - You just

wanted to tap. You didn't want to... - Yeah, yeah, exactly. No, Rory, I didn't

want to tap. I've been trying to tell a Long Island story for about 20

minutes here. I did not want to see what that mouth did. Now this is

when a pause should be happening. Hey, Bevel. So anyway, Long Island, you're hanging out

with all these guys. There we go. Thank you for bringing it back here. I

had a Long Island iced tea before I got here. You know what? Let's just

talk about your Long Island iced tea. It was at Iguana's next time. It was

great. So good. Good for you. So you're in this club and it's just men

and you're performing. No, this was at dinner. Hey, yo. See, he goes to dinner

with us. This was dinner. Because Friday available because Friday Was a release date for

me me and my closest male friends went to dinner because as men That's not

something that we typically do women women do that often where you get together you

go to dinner you go have drinks Men, we we don't like we don't Travel

and take trips together for whatever the reason be we just don't do it So

we got together and we had dinner and then after that we all went to

my uh, we all went to my gig and And it wasn't really the bestest

of places and locations and DJs. Well, nothing wrong with Long Island. The venue was

kind of... But the venue was a little suspect. The DJ was a little suspect.

But we tried to... I was with all of my people and it was a

joyous occasion. So we tried to have a great time. Now, Michael Roar is here.

All of a sudden, I see three attractive young women walk right over to our

table. Okay. and they were with oh michael roars they would worry i mean roars

honestly has a bad most of the time Well, these three were not with me.

They were friends of mine that I brought for my friends to talk to. Except

the time he brought that stripper person to the club. She was very attractive and

she was not a stripper. She was a stripper. Alright, well she wasn't, but go

on. Stripper-ish. Stripper-ish. But these three women were very attractive friends. They were friends. Friends,

air quotes, friends. And they were shapely, attractive, young women. And then as the night

progressed... Some more friends of Rory's came. Damn, Rory. Damn, Rory. So I looked at

Rory and I said, yo, man. Think I'm gonna pass

the torch down to you You got

the juice now, I don't have the

juice got the juice Do you use

gas station herbal supplements I Yo, those things are dangerous man. I mean

no kidding. I didn't think those shits worked, but I know but I will tell

you there is one thing that I do do use that may have invited all

these women. I wanted to talk more about gas station stuff. I got a really

bad migraine from fucking with one of those one time. Taking gas station. What the

fuck is a gas station supplement? The shit that Lamar Odom OD'd on. I mean,

I'm assuming like herbal supplements. I'm sure no one listen

gas station sushi Dressed as a friend what made you

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maybe wants a discount code. Well, it's funny that you mention that, Rory. All

they would have to do is go to getbevel.com. Let me spell it out

for you, ladies and gents. G-E-T-B-E-V-E-L.com and put in the promo code Joe. Not

combat. It's all the same shit. No, no, promo code J-O-E. Yeah, shout out

to Bevel. I'm wondering why I didn't get my second package like Rory got.

What are you a because I promoted on Twitter - so you do a lot

of promo on Twitter. That's more do Hey bevel my dad wants one. Yeah called

Tristan. Yeah, yeah, tell Tristan call me. We don't even have Tristan's number We go

to no, I think words like friends with Tristan. I'm not friends with her. Sorry.

I've never met him We talked to him right? No, I spoke to one of

his representatives via damn you ain't shit Jack Who is your do you have a

football team? Yes, who is your football team? I like the Giants Also, you must

have been heartbroken at their game. Yes Monday, right? I don't the Giants don't typically

do well on Monday night. No, they don't they don't right? They don't really against

the Eagles that much. They always said they always have good things with the Eagles

They started out strong. So Michael Kors that shit went downhill. Yeah, but the Eagles

suck They certainly suck. They probably do. The Eagles suck. I mean, the Giants were

riddled with injuries. Yes. Definitely. Like, all up and down the team. But I still

felt like they should have won for some reason. Did Odell play? I mean, they

had the momentum in the beginning of the game. And then once that ball got

intercepted, it was like... Odell played, but he was injured also. Yep, he's not playing

at full capacity. Yeah, at all. I don't know what's going on with Victor Cruz.

Ruben Randall was hurt as well. Yep. Flowers is still playing hurt. Yep. Yeah, um

Prince, uh Anything Prince played no, he didn't he didn't play. Yeah, I should have

picked the fucking Eagles in that game But but anyway, would you pick the Eagles?

Well, what I do, I'm in a weekly pool, right? Fan duel? Fan duel! Well,

no, not fan duel. Oh, shit. Edit that out. No, I play fan duel, too.

Fan duel is great. Me and my friends do a weekly pool where we kind

of bet against the point spread. And I think the point spread was four in

that game, if I'm not mistaken. The egos we're getting four. Yeah, that would make

more sense and I took the Giants. Yeah, it was horrible. But anyway speaking of

fan duel Devontae Freeman his price is going up weekly. Yeah He's been going crazy,

um, I I won a couple of dollars this this weekend I won't disclose my

team because I don't need people to know my here. I mean I get down

out there and he's fan duel streets and But you should definitely check it out.

If you want to play against me in fantasy football this week, you can join

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place wins $200 cash. The top 40 teams all can win cash. So yeah, go

ahead and do that, man. Eli. Oh, Eli's another one. He let me down. Me

too. Also sad. It's a value. You can get Eli for a good price out

there in those FanDuel streets. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Marissa shut the fuck

up. You shut the fuck up. What? So Maddie and Deontay are drunk as shit

by the way. Drinking water? Are y'all drunk? Yeah we went to Iguana's next. Yes.

Okay. They're drunk which explains why Marissa has been talking over me ever since we

got to this damn place. Damn. Oh wait you know what else I wanted to

do? What? Congratulate you. We have not really said, you know, all of Lost is

now officially in stores. We haven't done a podcast. Congratulations. Congratulations. Oh, that was the

artwork. Who did this, man? Who did this? This artwork? Well, I actually reached out

to an artist who did the Wale Ambition cover and the ninth Wonder album cover.

Um, she goes by the name of PS. I'm dope and she hand drew that

entire thing We spent countless hours getting that shit together went through a thousand different

prints. Shout out to her She's a wonderful wonderful wonderful job. This is a precious

cover man. Yeah We set out to his art. We set out to make it

an actual piece of art and and I think we we achieved that and Yes,

shout out to her man. She's dope. Um, if you didn't see the the we're

do we go clip that's online You can check that out as well where that's

actually her doing the mural on the side of that trend that's written backdrop So

so Joe man, how does this? Podcasting fit into the rest of your career like

this as this become like an integral part of your career right now Are you

wed to this thing? I am I am Which is funny. It didn't it didn't

start that way I just I knew I wanted a platform to be able to

speak about various things right because you need a platform Yeah, you need a platform.

Yeah, I was very naive. I was very naive to audiences of podcasts I really

didn't fully understand what a podcast was what it meant but once I got engulfed

I Love it man. And and the thing about you is your fans your followers

are really devoted to you Yeah, and and I don't think there's a better mechanism

that allows you to tap into them as Intimately as the podcast does. Yeah, so

I think this is like I said when I when I heard you were doing

the podcasting I was like this is Like because podcasting is it for everyone but

for you I was like, you know, that's the shit is dope It's difficult to

get someone to listen to you for an entire hour. That takes some talent I

still can't believe people listen to our shit because it to me it's like we're

just talking but I mean It's resonating man and people need content that really speaks

to them what I think you do really well at interviewing is you let the

person speak and That's not what my audience... My audience is like, stop fucking interrupting.

No, because you're giving conversational points, not... Interview questions more or less, but I see

a lot of interview people especially in radio and online that just want to hear

themselves fucking talk to a rapper and Nothing gets done out of it. It's literally

just listening to them hear themselves talk. I didn't want to hear that Yeah, what

do you think of rap radars podcast? Um, it's it's good. Oh, yeah, he hates

them No, no, no, no, no, no, no. That was the most casual it's good

I've ever heard. No, no, no, no, no. I think, you know, I mean, Elliot

has been really working to find a vehicle to really perpetuate his brand. So I

think this is... Jack, Jack, Jack, Jack. No, no, let me talk. That's a lawyer

talk, Munchie. Everyone takes their tap dancing shoes off at the door. I think it's

good. My only concern overall is... So you guys joke about us

being corporate, but CBS is really corporate. Yeah. So that's really my concern, what that

corporate, you know, presence in this really fragile and small ecosystem is going to do.

Oh, that's valid. That's a valid concern. But, I mean, I don't know how involved

CBS is. Know I went up there to do their podcast, but I didn't I

didn't even really ask about I just told him I like the way that you

and all your fucking guests look when you take the goofy picture Looks really powerful.

I like what you doing. It's like a cool fucking picture in front of that

gumball machine. Yeah, probably Well, we don't have guests they they the rap radar they

have a guest like every fucking Jack kicked it off. We bought the just we

got to be lit every week from now on No, no, we aren't punk. Yeah,

we don't need it. Let me tell you don't get dependent on guests. We never

Don't do that because I'm telling you from experience like we used to not have

guests and we had a following and then the shit blew up when we had

guests and it's like Sometimes you don't get guests and it's like that shit is

nerve-racking on top of having to deliver a show No, we don't we've We really

have any good we literally never really had guests. We've had a couple of like

girls have a good interview Like you're friends a few times. We have guests our

fans hate them next they go back to three We had like Steph and yes,

people like stuff people like yes jewels was mixed we had a you called Royce

259 I don't know if that really counts. It wasn't yes. We called Ty Dolla

Sign and I like Ty Dolla $ign. Me too! Do you really like him? I'm

excited about his album. Fuck you, Daniel. She follows him all over the country. No,

I literally am like his biggest fan. No, he's dope, man. He's dope. He's very

underrated. About a year and a half ago. Somebody's rating him. Somebody's giving him props.

Calm down, Stanley. About a year and a half ago, his label was like, can

you do us a favor and have him on the show? And I was like,

all right. He came on I really didn't know about paranoid and all nine and

I think we had him off like 15 20 minutes and then after that his

shit took off took off and it's just like I love at least encountering somebody

when they're starting this shit and seeing the whole progression of their careers I'm really

impressed with that with that kid. He's a great song maker. Yeah, and he plays

all these instruments He comes from a family and father was in Lakeside. Yeah, I

I'm excited for his project. November 13th, Free TC and Source. I wanna hear that

Brandy James Fonseroy in "Tie Dollar." That's the first record on the track list. His

E-40, his song with E-40 he just put out was kinda good too. It's kinda

like a... I mean, it's not that. But it's like another radio hit. And where

are all his birthmarks? Tell us about it. Since you're just gonna give us random

"Tie Dollar" signed facts. "Oh yeah, his family has a house out in Lakewood." "By

his dick!" I said his father was a musician in Lakeside. Alright. And...

Yeah

That's where I was going now some motherfucker caught

me out there by eight months ago with the

Beaufort yeah, and I was like never again What

am I listening to yeah? I'm coming with tip I've

been listening to a lot of like alternative style music like they're reeling me in

with this Calvin Harris Diplo Diplo I've been I've been in that and that it's

a good space to be in man Yeah, I'm and I'm I'm getting familiar with

a lot of the artists that make those records because there's so many records that

you're familiar with Cuz you're out in the club, but you have no idea who

makes these songs So I've been I've been doing a lot of that recently. I

Normally I'm R&B rock and roll guy. I'll sprinkle some hip-hop in here and there

but where's rock and roll right now in 2015 who's doing? Oh, no, I don't

know not current rock and roll. Yeah, old old. AC/DC, Metallica, Bon Jovi. I like

Creed. I like Creed. I mean, I don't know if you're making a couple's therapy

joke. I don't know if you're making a couple's therapy joke. I do like Creed.

I really do too. Oh, okay. But couple's therapy is every Wednesday. Absolutely. Meatloaf?

Anyways, I'm more Led Zeppelin Floyd Floyd is amazing and of

all time rightfully so yeah pink Floyd's amazing and We

know some Beatles all the old shit. Just yeah, I don't know where

current rock and roll is today. Does it exist? I mean does it

really? Considered Rock China pin for what it would be considered much as

pop star kid rock. Yeah, like is he? rockabilly hip-hop traitor kind of like yeah

i don't know if there's really rock and roll is kid rock uh active currently

yeah he just did along with machines on kelly yeah yeah that's not rock and

roll okay i don't know and i don't think that's rock and roll daniel you

raised a good question yeah now i'm gonna go see if i can find like

some rock i think i think rock is officially i mean from what i understand

it's officially great i've never thought of that yeah wow rock and roll can't be

dead i mean it's It's become a niche genre in the sense somebody doing that

shit somebody I mean like a lot of genres it fused we don't I mean

you used to know You knew when we could have come out like someone was

dropping some shit Even if you didn't listen to me tell us corn rock corn

was was heavy metal. Have you met her? Vonna was probably Vonna was the last

biggest amazing shit and I'm going to do some research on that. That's interesting that

you say that. Because rock and roll was always that genre that just could never

die. Because all of their legendary acts, you know, they could always just tour. But

it got subsumed. Which they can still do. But I think, you know, it got

subsumed. You got to breathe new. But that's scary. Is that what's going to happen

to hip-hop? Of course because that's what you know rock and roll was what our

parents used to get in trouble for by their parents And that was the shit.

They don't want them listening Of course you already see hip-hop morphing and And so

my kids at 18 and 19 don't understand what like pre Kanye shit like they

don't understand No, well they under they respect J. They respect Nas they don't understand

all that shit Gunclap shit. They don't understand that Biggie kick in the door or

Tupac They don't understand that shit cuz that's not their reality right now. I was

getting clapped like that Yeah amongst their peers, you know, I mean, so it's like

they they're into the fucking um Travis Scott and all that other melodic shit the

melodic shit Yeah, but you know what a lot and I love Travis Scott's as

well up there window. Yeah, that's fine. You know, it is built. I Lit, but

it's not that it's not to me. I mean, it is hip-hop

explain it to me I mean that's like saying Africa Bambaataa soul

sonic force wasn't hip-hop have them that's a false equivalent. They wanted

it was melodic They were singing they weren't spitting rhymes. It was

all melodic and it shit was electro as shit It was electro.

It was the most non hip-hop hip-hop record of all time. Hmm

That shit is Kraftwerk. That shit is electronica. That's EDM, pre-EDM. Okay, I think this

is the difference. I agree. What year did that record come out? That record came,

I want to say, 82. During the formative years. And even then, it was like,

that shit is not rap, but that shit is rap. But you're leading to my

point. In the formative years, I think you would be able to make that record.

I don't think we really had an identity But but every generation brings in their

identity every generation brings in their identity Like like like that first wave was motherfuckers

from the 70s with fucking warrior jackets Yeah, and then that shit morphed into my

focus trying to look like Parliament and then it morphed into run DMC and then

it morphed into everything W way and W like like in 82 you wouldn't say

NWA was hip-hop because that shit was so Counterculture in terms of like the annihilation

of your fellow man and like you couldn't predict that we would go that that

far You know the sound saying or native tongues. Okay, you know what I mean?

So as this like, you know soldier boy I used to be the old man

saying soldier boy is not hip-hop until I saw my my kids dance into that

shit I was like, oh that's hip-hop for them. I And

that really shifted my change, my stance in terms of how I

accepted new hip-hop. It's not rap. But they I mean it is

rap. No, it's not it is rap. That's a good thing. No, you say it's

not Yeah, and and I think I think all right I misspoke earlier. Okay, so

it's hip-hop It's not rap music, but it is hip-hop and in hip-hop. You can

have that fusion of Genres and sounds and you don't have to like it's just

different. It's different and So now so now what happens when like you said it's

evolving that is what everyone is doing currently evolving devolving whatever Yeah, whatever whatever word

you want to use but what happens when the majority when that's all it is

So maybe rap music that it goes to something else. I mean everything there would

be no rap music everything dies. No everything changes and Then it gets a

rebirth everything everything changes do Jesus that's depressing Well, you got to

think everything died you got to think like oh Early to mid 2000s. It

was the snap era You still had your little brothers and your slum village, but

it was snap music that was on the radio That was a popular billboards. Yeah,

D4l it then went back to having people like a J Cole or a Kendrick

or II I'm even gonna put Drake in their lyrical rappers being the forefront it

left and came back It could very well do that again, but then again, you

got to remember like I you got to understand I remember when there was no

rap. Mm-hmm, so So rap for us was James Brown. Parliament. Yeah, I am a

funkadelic. I'm disco. And that shit was hot. You can tell me that shit was

butter. And then hip hop, it was just a natural progression. You know what I'm

saying? One day there was no hip hop and the next day everything was hip

hop. Hip hop, hip hop. I don't know, man. I'm not willing to say that

Travis Scott is a rap album. But he's rapping on there too, though. I mean,

he does rap on there. He's rapping on there. I mean, he's got, he's, him

and Kanye. I've got Trey Songz albums where he's rapping. Him and Kanye are throwing

bars back and forth. I got Chris Brown's album where he's rapping. It's funny that

Combat's here to have that conversation. He means Chris Brown. I was gonna reply to

you on Twitter because you I think retweeted me by accident I said I'm watching

Dave Chappelle block party damn I really miss hip-hop and I think it was you

that replied said but it's still alive yes and I then thought about it I

was like all right I misspoke Because I don't think hip-hop is dead, but that

was around the time when I was 13, 14, and I was really coming into

myself with the music that I loved. So I just gravitate, and my nostalgia's like,

holy shit, I remember Mos Quali, early Kanye. That's what I loved. Yeah. I misspoke

when I said I was like nah cuz I don't think hip-hop is dead As

the old man in the room I got to be vigilant against that because I

see a lot of my peers from my from from my generation Ah, the shit

is why everyone's gonna fill that way though. Not everyone. I Used I went through

a phase like that Years years years ago. I want to say around that who

killed hip-hop Oh six Oh seven Oh eight where I was I was just I

was the old angry guy at all everything changing around me I'm not I'm not

there today like today I can appreciate things for what they are like I enjoy

fetty wop I enjoyed the Travis Scott album like all these things that maybe would

have never Never flew in the 90s and the error that I fell in love

with this shit during But today I can appreciate so my father-in-law who's passed away

He passed away about six years ago was an accomplished songwriter. He had hits in

the 50s in the 60s He won a Grammy for writing and producing with Luther

Vandross love power and he comes from he comes from An older era, but whenever

I would drive with him in the 90s, he would keep his radio locked to

hot 97 This is the guy that used to like men when you and your

wife would fight. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and I would be like I think I

remember one Christmas I gave him like a Nat King Cole album and he was

like the fuck are you doing like I live that era like you you're trying

to get me old and he wasn't trying to be young he was just his

mind was stimulated by how music was changing And he stay like we would have

conversations about ether and takeover and you know i'm saying and this is he's probably

in the 60s 70s at the time But he was like constantly and he kind

of taught me like yo don't ever think you're too good For new shit. Yeah.

Yeah I mean don't jump in it don't you know dress like these young cats,

but don't ever think your era was better than the era That's I mean and

you there are pros and cons is this did this there's arguments about that shit

But don't ever think that today's music whenever today is is completely trash because that's

when that's when the aging Process really kicks in because you're not really living to

move for you living and living and living you live and live in the past

What do you stand on takeover either by the way? Um, so to me Jay-z

is goat. Um, but he got Ethan he did and that's why that's still a

term to this day Okay, I mean and there's so many different levels like takeover

was the nail in the coffin for Nas because it was all factual It was

like he body and I was it was in the fucking coffin. We were like

more like yo son died and Son fucking came out of the grave.

I think that's why people choose either. Yeah, it was unexpected Unexpected and it

was moms after like and it was sloppy - it was like like Takeover

was fucking Perfection it was like darts like fucking precision About three four or

five months. I remember where I was when I first heard ether. I don't

remember takeover I don't remember what he thought was like a drunk man Sloppily bussing

a master's ass. You know what I mean? It was just sloppy and just raw

and it was just like oh He's connecting woke up the sleeping giant and it

changed it really affected Jay-z for the rest of his career Yeah, and we got

one of the better Nas albums. So I can thank you Thanks And I enjoyed

the J non's collabs black Republican Success a lot black Republican. I'm like no, I

guess it was exciting We've like got hit by that was the first record everyone

went to it might have been better in my head than it actually was But

it was an event. Oh, yeah, it took three minutes for them to start For

some of you younger listeners There was a point in time where? J&N Oz being

on the same record was just a hip-hop drink. I was at the concert be

oh, yeah Yeah, that shit was crazy electric. I'm sure that shit was crazy. I

would have been confused Yeah today. Oh man, I mean I get on my fucking

old back in the day Just to close this topic. Yes, what is scarier this

past generation of hip-hop where it was the drug dealer or Mafioso carry guns bottles

jewelry or this generation where you are now encouraged to become the addict What is

more terrifying and more detrimental? Do you think to a society? I mean both I

think reflected the actual time I don't think you can say I mean it's all

youth music and and and there's always that underside to youth music and whatever generation

like Rock and roll was LSD and heroin. You know what I mean? So it's

just a wave. I mean, you know, we talked about coke like like in the

80s. Cocaine was hot. You understand what I'm saying? Like cocaine was hot. So I

don't think you can say what I mean. I think for the most part, shit

is so much more sterile and safer now than it's ever been.

No, you don't know what your molly be cut with sometimes that's true, but but

motherfuckers were getting shot everywhere The back in the day, but I mean you were

encouraged to carry those things Yeah losses and citizen stop situations like that I mean

we were designing clothes with stash pockets for your heater my problem my problem today

is that I Every time somebody drops dead from an alleged overdose. They never

tell us exactly what this person died from right? So now the mixtures of

certain drugs is detrimental and fatal so Pimp see we still don't know what

happened right? Oh am we still don't know what happened like I Yams we still

don't know what happened like so I mean there's people out there and we incurred

then our generation Jam master J You still don't know what happened right Biggie you

still don't know what happened Tupac I mean it's a whole different but it was

Yeah, but my thing with that is if you were encouraged by a rap record

Which I don't really think people are you're obviously products of your environment if you're

going outside and hearing someone talking about shooting people and selling drugs you can walk

out to your block and realize that I'm not built for this. You could walk

to a party today and easily pop three fucking Molly's, no problem. And drink some

lean. I think people went to their block and realized they were not cut out

for that. More than people that did. But I think anyone can go out and

do these drugs and do all these things that future is saying and dirty sprite

- but not necessarily Some people realize they're scared of that. Not everyone can live

a mob deep infamous I wouldn't touch a drug with a 10-foot pole. Oh, yeah,

we're talking about How these kids are rooted is it family because if these kids

are unrooted then anything is an influence to them, right? But that's always been the

case I know that you bring up that infamous album that made me want to

go stand on the corner and sell drugs and I attempted to do that and

that is when I realized that Dealing drugs wasn't for me. Stabbed your brain with

your nose bone. So I'm saying now, you went out and realized, I can't live

that infamous album. You know how easy it is to go out and live a

future album? And how bad that can end up for you? Yeah, and you could

get wiped out and be like, I'm not fucking with that shit ever again. I

mean, life is trial and error. Where do you rank that infamous album? Top 30

album of all time? It's my favorite album of all time. Know a few people

it's in their top five man, you know I have this conversation with crooked I

was it had to be top 30 top 30 like it was a seminal album

and I rate albums not necessarily on how great they are but how many times

I played them and I could not stop playing when that shit dropped and I

could not stop playing that shit man. I have this talk with Crooked I was

in my group all the time about the infamous album and He always says that

we wasn't fucking with that on the west coast really that wasn't the way it

hit y'all right? It didn't hit us so I personally him can't put it as

a top 20 album and I'm like what the? Differences play apart that you have

an example of an East Coast album that did hit them like that. I Um,

he may have but I don't want to miss quota. Yeah, I don't wanna miss

quote him cuz I can't remember This is my favorite hip-hop album bulls. Oh, really

ever. Yeah, I can still every day. Would you rank NWA? I can't I was

I wasn't born. I think niggas for life as far superior than straight out of

come Cuz you know, I believe that I mean no sonically like like they had

to step up and have such a huge impact over here as it was over

there Yes, yeah, I mean the West Coast had it. I mean once the ascension

of you know Chronic and NWA and Snoop like we were following them for a

while until yeah big kind of shifted the yeah the trend Yeah, them nuns came

big follow. Yeah. Man, I wish I was around for that shit, man. But that

was a great hour. Then you'd be old like me right now. I know. I

don't know about what was that. And you wouldn't be doing Xanny's on the weekend.

I don't do that anymore. Getting that dick. I couldn't say straight out of Compton

is a top five album. No, I mean it was it was a

groundbreaking album, but Straight out of Compton is not better than America's Most

Wanted. No, no, not at all. I mean, we just shifted it was

like oh shit. Oh They're talking about Gats and they're cool and they have jerry-crowns.

Yeah, they changed. Yeah, yeah. It was impactful and changed, you know, like my comment

said. And it changed the language because I was, Gats, no one ever said Gats.

Yeah. No one ever said gas in New York. No one. We didn't know what

the fuck a gat was. We don't get that anymore. So we had to sit

and study their language. And then we started like chronic. What the fuck is chronic?

You're smoking weed. You're smoking herb. Yeah, damn, we don't get that anymore. We know

all of that shit already cuz we have the internet like we'll never get that

experience of Like fleek now for your future still like like isn't he chain Showing

us nothing. We didn't know though. Like we've heard of lean he's glorifying it more

activists, but we're not we're not googling We're not trying to figure out what what

this is that we know you're talking about. You're just You know who changed shit?

Migos changed a lot of shit. Like what the fuck was a bando? That's true.

You know I'm saying we were I did I did ask what a bando is.

I was like yo one day I was like let me use my googles and

see what a bando Oh, that's what a bando is. Fredrick Star gave us googles.

Yeah Yes, so I mean it still happens. It does and and I think I

think it's a smaller scale though But that is because we're less because because we're

so we get so much information now. I have to ask you Just because of

Keith Murray and Fred Astor you had him on the show. Yes. What were your

thoughts of that battle? Um, he white he killed for Keith Murray body himself by

himself Fred Roach wanted to get him on the show and key body himself like

I mean he admitted himself like oh does he yeah, he's like yeah, I you

know, I took my medication and Yeah, I threw me off. Yeah, it was interesting

for me to see Keith Murray on the on the BT cipher, right? Seemed just

fine. He seemed perfect. Lyrical beast. He seemed like the Keith Murray that

I've always known. Then again, maybe he underestimated the whole Pedro or just

was very comfortable in his lyrical prowess. Because, you know, no one thought

Fredo could possibly win because Fredo was never known to be the rapper like on

a level of a Keith Murray Yeah, you know two completely different ballpark. Yeah, but

he won he won Yeah, I'd like to see them try that with Keith in

his right mind Yeah, or red man or no no no red man would clean

up. You just leave alone But I'm saying but but but that's the crudo. It's

it's it's Eric Sermon red man and Keith I'm aware but niggas know to leave

red man. Yeah. Yeah ready today. I In 2015 do they still know to leave

Redman alone? See I'm always confused when people ask these questions anyone knowledgeable know anyone

um There's a lot of people that you know then but before before this happened

you would probably say Everyone knows to leave Keith Murray alone, right? Yes, no, we're

different to a lower degree right to a lower degree to a lower degree. But

yes, I Yeah, you would think that. Yeah, but we know that Keith,

you know, sometimes you catch him and he's honest. Red man can spit high.

I've heard in my lifetime One time that Redman has got cleaned up and that

was when Cannabis was cleaning everyone up on Beast from the East when Cannabis had

that 70 bars at the end. And still Redman's verse was amazing, but Red is

one of them niggas that, you know, Red is Em's favorite rapper ever. He's just

that, he's one of those guys. So his pen is just Unmatched mm-hmm. It was

good to see that it was good to see that he could still

go that way when I watched the when I watched the awards which

new cats do you do you appreciate that pen their pen game new

new new new new cats new new new new new new new as

in like freshman new like this generation like like Cole Cole Cole Kendrick

when Drake is rapping I fuck with him. Oh Like Sean's pen

big Sean. I like Wale's pen is crazy, right? Yeah, I like I like Wale

Big Sean, um as far as just their pen pen. Yeah, who else is who

else is there pusher? But we haven't seen pushing a while but pushes pushes and

again. Oh, see I don't I don't put push in this new class. Okay. Oh

Yeah, he was around these keys clips. He's trying to see yeah grind and I

put him with this new car. Um, I Who else is new out here? Kanye

is I don't put him there. He's too old for this this group. Yeah, they

post those I don't put in there. Yeah logic logic logic logic is logic is

another good one logic is great logic is another good one who I mean MGK

I don't think people think of Penn when they think of MGK. He's an amazing

lyricist. I did not say that he wasn't. Great energy and great music. I think

people more so look to MGK for his energy. I don't think you automatically go

right to, wow, what a Penn. And I haven't really... Sat to absorb but I

will say am I going to a logic show or MGK show? I'm gonna MGK

show because I know it's gonna be crazy Yes, well nothing to take away from

logic's performance, but he's definitely more of a lyrical pen rapper than you know who

keeps surprising me with their consistency man, and he shouldn't is whiz man and Yo,

Wiz was fucking raw, B. You gotta give Wiz a consistency, Corey. Like, did you

hear, you've heard the King of Everything? Yeah. Shit is dope. Like, he always pulls

a dope record out of nowhere. Yet I think that's what he's to be

applauded for I was just saying this recently that Wiz will always

have one always always never failed And you don't even remember until

you go to the show yeah, and he's just Before right but

me on a mainstream level we would know yeah or Or cushion orange juice. Yeah,

cushion orange juice. You know who's the king of going to a show and you

go, holy fuck, fab. You don't realize how many hits Phab has had. It's just

very a reminder when you go to his show how many hits and how long

this guy has been in this rap game. I had that moment with Phat Joe

Phat Joe, yeah. Like in '07, '08. If Phat Joe was to just, if you

just go down his whole list, which I was able to see him do live,

it was like, "God damn it, this guy, he's doing everything but Flo-Joe up this

motherfucker." That's how I felt about Wayne. But I mean Wayne yeah, but that's not

a sneaky discography at all But that is one of those like see I'm from

that generation where I when I was kind of hating rap I never got to

appreciate Wayne really I never got to appreciate Wayne and then when people started making

comparisons to like Jay Wayne and jazz I am now I'm really done Definitely not

even trying. I actually am paying attention to Wayne now post all of this. Let's

see I think now you get in the The worst not the worst but not

the best form of way. No, I'm not getting the best form But I'm listening

to him right now cuz I kind of like he's not on top of his

game like I used to be not but I kind of like his energy now

that he's gotten so Disrespected he's hungry by young thug and and the whole and

I'm always kind of want to root for the underdog So this remake that he

has right now of Buster. It's interesting. Did you listen to the free wheezy album?

At 25 I credit Wayne for me being so open-minded with hip-hop now

because when I was 13 14 I was a super backpack head and

Wayne came around and he was the energy that you could not ignore

and And the more and more you heard you were like, all right, this guy

is kind of fucking dope I don't want to like it, but he's funny when

dope right and then that drew me more and more towards mainstream rappers that I

do love to this day and I credit him for having open mind that whatever

Wayne was that This was this was our arm Carter Carter - Carter - where

are you from? Okay Yes was Carter to arrow which was his best album in

my opinion, right? But I mean three was great. I think Carter - was his

best part of two is harder to explain I mean you some people Carter three

had good hits but Carter - was cohesively like I think I think majority of

Wayne fans would agree with that. Mm-hmm Anything else we need

to touch on here do we have

any last words for Jack I know

some y'all need to touch on a

Kind of pause though be who are you talking to in that? Why did

you get that lace front I like it I think her hair looks good.

It doesn't it does the front no I like that. I'm not a fan

of lace front. I don't know why women do that explain it to me

Well, what else what other options? No, it doesn't. No, it doesn't look more

natural. I mean, granted, it's not a fucking Irvington... Lace front, but it's not like

her hair looks nice on weaves. What's a Irvington? What the fuck is that? That's

when they crudely paste that fucking lace front right on the middle of your forehead.

No, I'm naive. Excuse my ignorance. Why do women do lace? You're looking at me

like I get a lace front. I don't get it. I've never gotten it. And

I thought maybe it was because I was white. Speaking to the mic. I'm new

to weave. You gotta get closer to the mic. Okay, I'm new to weave, but

like I just thought it was more natural and I just want everything underneath. So,

that's what I got. You're beautiful, but that's not very natural. Her last one, like

when her hair would grow, then like it would be like flatness and then puff

because that's where the weave would start. So, that looked nuts. Also, women do that

for their edges? I think. I don't know how this works because I don't know.

Because you're white, I know. I'm black and I don't know. My hair girl does

it for me. No to lace fronts, just in general. Yeah. Yeah, it's a regular

wait what other options are that can't you just put like

little so in the back? Why do you know these things?

Why are we why do we need a weave? Show

Unbeweavable. Oh wait, so real quick since we still have you. Yeah.

Are for different podcasts on the loudspeaker networks, are the splits different?

Or is it the same split? Um, it's all, you know, one

thing. To all you podcasters out there who don't want to be

on a fucking podcast label. As an artist, there's no identical contracts.

Yeah, no, no is a lawyer - Some people how do you determine? How

do you determine? What how much podcast is more valuable how much we put

in how much they put in? Okay, how about how they how crazy they

hit the ground running? I mean Well, when is this contract determined after their first

episode? That's a lot of tangible things that happen after going into it I'm saying

and then you know, I mean contracts are a living thing But the most important

thing you got to figure out is who has the leverage Like who really needs

who more? I mean, sometimes we might be more dependent on our biggest acts So

they have the most leverage. Okay, and we want to keep them happy and then

we have acts that are leaning on us and it's like Gotta hold this until

you get to a certain level. Well, who are some of the biggest acts the

biggest act the biggest by far very kid The read is like yeah, like they're

like we're getting calls from people that that are on the other side you know

the podcast feel like this American life and NPR and they're like those motherfuckers. Oh

The shit they're phenomena black white whatever their phenomena in the game. Mm-hmm so that's

they're like the biggest act on the network and Next up is Brilliant Idiots. I

mean, Charlemagne is an undeniable star. Love him or hate him, he's a star. Andrew

Schultz. And then they both come in with Andrew and his comedic background, Power 105,

MTV. So that's a built-in audience. And Charlemagne is just getting bigger and bigger and

bigger. And then there's me. Then there's the rest of the shows. Hey, that's

true. There's tax stone and you know, no no text on is not to be

mentioned But I'm no but but but but but tax is still for the short

time. He's been in the game like It's it's not wait where your fans follow

you. It's when you Discover new fans and he is you know, he's he's You

know you have played video games and you you're you're going through

a town and the map opens up Yeah, that's what tax is

doing. He's opening up the map each and every episode. This is

contract split What I do gotta say about tax that's phenomenal is

nine months ago. He wasn't doing this shit. I Nine months ago. He

was doing hood shit with his friends. Well, you know, he's still doing hood shit

with his friends But I'm watching the progression about like he's like yo how much

Hood shit with my friends shit. Can I do now cuz now it might take

away this new shit. I'm doing my new friends Mm-hmm, you know so watching him

go like sink come on you you've been in the game a long time But

you remember when you first came in the game when you was raw. Yeah, it

was like I How fast you had to grow up or not how fast you

had to grow up and watching him grow very fast, even though there's a lot

more that he has to grow, but watching him grow in these past nine months

has been phenomenal. He gets it. When you talk, he's still going to do. No,

he's just my brother. But when you talk to him, it's like, yo, tax, you

got to change. And he's like, I got it. No, no, no. Y'all don't understand.

I got it. Okay Well tax I'll see you on Monday. I'll

see you on Monday. So we'll talk about miss talk about

contracts Yeah, yep, what happened no, I mean we've always been

okay no we you know initially initially I think Pete had

the idea that he wanted to start a network. Um, I

I think in his career, he got very busy. I don't think he had the

time to actually go about seeing that out. And for me, it's like I'm a

one-man band. I don't really need... Pete so it's like once I started doing a

few podcast was like We kind of got it now. So if you ain't bringing

something a little more than that bullshit you was talking about before But I'm still

still a cool dude. Oh, I fuck with people. No, I fuck with pizza, which

is kind of crazy. I Marissa you want to touch on this shit you're showing

me? Sorry, y'all but the title show hit boy brought out Quentin Miller for 10

bit to wrap 10 bands Why is that a big deal because that's shitting on

Drake that's Quentin shitting on Drake and hit boy shitting on Drake. Oh Why is

this happening? Why is his voice shitting on Drake? Or is it like... Well, Drake

is with Apple. Right. So anything with this title show. And then Quentin is rapping

10 bands now? Everything in hip hop is so beef right now. I mean, it's

always been. Does that shit get tired? He's doing a show at time. That's beef.

Doesn't he look like Raven? Hmm. I don't know why is why would hit boy

and drink be beefing? I don't know I can't even think of a reason and

why I don't like this this I don't like all this stuff that Quinn is

doing as of late. Yeah, that's weird right Quentin Yeah, what has he been doing?

He's been doing a lot of a lot of Somebody is doing it himself. I

Huh? He's got to look out for himself at this point. Drake hasn't said a

word about this kid. I'm trying to big him up. Isn't he getting points on?

I would imagine so. What? Yeah. Start your own career. I don't like you.

I don't fucking live off his album Maybe I'm just a man old-fashioned I just

don't like when co-workers who people who work together and some way friend of me

speak Yeah, I don't like it if we agree business partners if we were friends

if me and Imani never speak another day I have nothing negative to say about

him publicly in public. Mm-hmm Just don't I don't like why is he on this

to down show? Why is he on this fucking title show I don't I don't

get it So now you got Drake Wayne is on this show Nikki's on this

show his way is bringing out this kid is his loyalty to Drake and He

wrote a few records for him. Why is he supposed to be loyal to him?

Because no no no no. Why should he be watching? Your career and then going

out to form your reference track you can minimalize it that way if you want

Maybe Drake was like, yo, take this fucking run. Drake gave his brother an opportunity.

You know that. Maybe. And the very first time we ever heard from Quentin Miller,

that's the Quentin Miller we heard. Drake gave me an opportunity when no one else

would. So where's that Quentin Miller? Using his moment the few minutes that he has

that people care about his name to his advantage I'm not saying that's right, but

that's what it is. I'm just I don't like it. I don't like it I

mean he deserves the right to be that way I personally don't like it and

I'll watch this from afar because it does seem like and this is all just

hyperbole It does seem like it's starting to look like Drake against a lot of

people. He's the top dog. It's always going to be like that. Can you talk

about this? It feels like behind the scenes. It's always going to be like that.

They're always going to come at the top dog. Everybody came at Jay, right? Everybody

came at Jay. Including you. I don't know if everybody came at Jay. Once

Nas got in, everybody came at Jay. That was after Jay was leaving.

Jay was done with rap. Go ahead, you fucking peons. I'm on sports

now. That's what they were trying to do. Too late, bud. It doesn't

seem like he's going anywhere else. Like, it doesn't seem like his attention is on

any other venture. He just got here. Like, yeah. And he looks like... It looks

like... I could be wrong. He's very comfortable. It looks like he'll be here... For

at least... For a minute. For five minutes. Now, I also said at one point

in time, I can't imagine... 50 not dominating the way that he was if you

remember his uh, yes in his reign So I bet on 50 winning that time

he went up against Kanye Graduation versus Curtis which was Curtis was a phenomenal. Well,

let me not say phenomenal. It was a great album. It was a great 50

Oh fucking that was a genius marketing. Oh employed by those two labels. Oh, and

it worked. It worked like a charm. I want to thank Combat Jack for coming

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you. Thank you. Thank you Hey, you. I always look at the length of your

podcast. And I say, yo, that's. And by podcast, he means, yo, dude. And

I always say oh that's so amazing how he's able to be compelling and engage

for that amount of time It's a guest man. It's the guest. I mean you

got to understand man like Sometimes we whack it's a but no, but they have

great stories and and and most of the guests that I have on the show

It's their stories. I'm trying to it's the stories. That's compelling. Like I don't want

ever want to be the focal point of the show It's really the guests Radar

trying to come for you though. That's all right You

know I welcome anybody in the game and I mean

that's that big And our legacies already cemented so I've

been doing this for five years and it's been five

years of historic Legacy shit. I'm really proud of my legacy. I mean you knew

in the game. Oh, I'm just got here rap radar Yeah, I mean bow down

when you see real podcast niggas what I'll say is this Like I don't think

I'm the best interviewer but for what I do I'm the best of what I

do. Uh-huh This plan yo, that's all and we leave it at that my g

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