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microphone check one two what is this welcome to the joe button podcast episode 365.

266. 360. third one third one this week 366. go ahead oh yeah that's why

uh episode 366 of the joe budden podcast i'm your humble grateful gracious and highly

favored host joe button here with a few of my nearest and dearest uh brother mullis here muscle muspod

parks is here rory is here eric sent us here corey is here s dog is here alex the satisfactory is here gentlemen

how's everyone doing how was your week how's your headspace what's going on talk to me good man

everything's good everything's slow and easy right now calm week i saw you two

days ago i mean not much happened in two days sorry i have a vulnerable moment i wanted to

share oh shh yeah you party is this i know it's not a safe that's a

basic very rretic thing to do in the locker room i know it's not a safe space but i'm

asking if if it could be safe no it's safe sure the door's locked okay you're safe

yeah no one's gonna hear this no so yesterday my mom and one of her best friends come over cook dinner did the whole thing made

steaks my mother's best friend's daughter i've known my whole life is about to get

married and they're doing the bachelorette party today when you're hearing this okay so my mom

and her friend are help putting this [ __ ] together and i jokingly said hey my gift will be a male

stripper for y'all and both of their eyes lit up as if i wasn't joking

okay they took me up on my offer right away you are you are in contact with male

strippers it was a joke so now you got to find him it's going to get worse

oh you're not the male stripper are you no okay i'm not going to strip for my mother okay

sicko no i'm just i'm trying to see where the story's going so that's what happened to the silence and

lamb guy right yeah what look what joe emotion in the basket hey he just scoffed at that like we've

never seen a white dude wow

so i get bullied in to opening my laptop and searching for male dancers that are

available today area your instagram nothing yeah

so now cookies are disgusting and you text cookie

this is where i need this isn't the part i needed some safety okay oh we got so caught up into this search

that when they were judging the dudes that kept popping up in the gallery of who you could pick you

found a cute one i started saying nah not him oh my god

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cool comfortable i was like i whatever if my mom her friends and all that want to have a mail strip i got nothing wrong

with that i'll even help i'll pay for it what attributes were you looking for when i caught myself saying

you kind of come out with me i'm trying to beat you to the punch in the middle of that not him

i was like wait what am i doing don't don't be the guy to propose at my

wedding that is hilarious so who'd you pick the

guy what's his name i was outvoted i'm still a little salty i might hire my fave for another time

what were you willing to pay them yo they're not cheap oh my god yo what is wrong with rory

rory has a wild 48 hours man ugh turning it up all i was trying to do was

cook some steaks for my mom and her friend that's all i was trying to do you started cooking a different type of meal everybody

the poultry changed oh you can do better than that mom yeah i have high standards for

all of my loved ones especially women so yeah that's a selfless act worth more than

that guys rory not really sharing the full extent of what he was doing in there

the moms was trying to write the strippers words like oh come on a guy wouldn't even respond to that let me do it

no i speak his language come here let me write that's it oh man i didn't even know male

stripper still existed of course we know you didn't mo no safari safari he's he's only been holding it down for the

male strippers no but they took him like really oh

but he'd be stripping but don't talk about what a dude do with his wife he tell he told us he called in and told us

she's the one only fans yeah it was like a far-fetched firearm yeah like they're right on this one yeah like

he told us that's what he does if i go if i if i'm somewhere and i'm start stripping with my wife y'all gonna talk about it with the homies

we're gonna laugh at you for sure yeah we don't we don't want to see that [ __ ] it ain't for you it's on your only

fans it's for the world but for my fans only yeah it's in the title it's for the world

titles you're not a fan of mine those those zip files drop every week for the world that is true yeah there is

man to talk about we sitting here bullshitting around but i told y'all i'm in a real mellow mood real mellow move where do y'all want to

start come on man we ain't starting nowhere else you know snooping in in x-men

classic classic classic battle a clash closer than we probably thought

it would be classic it was closer i thought absolutely what i got i got x winning

sorry but you had x winning i had a 10-9 snoop i'm not mad at that so what

happened to the other ones yeah that was 20 records i'm sorry i scored like a fight but we had it 12 8 11 nine we had it right there

yeah that's why i'm shocked like what are y'all saying it was much closer than that well i thought i thought snoop was gonna

get like 14. but no when you i'm saying this closer after like actually hearing the records back to back

like them answer each other with records it was like okay snoop might have won that one but not i could see some people liking that

record better though that's what i mean it was closer than i thought it would be and he didn't play still dre

which i was like how did you not play sexual seduction snoop played still direct did he play

still dre played next episode oh no didn't he start deep covered with still dre and then it

switched they did do a couple of the first record he kind of played but it didn't count was still drake

he didn't play still dredo like he started the battle with it it was just a song and a half what was your score in the

battle and then and then just give it probably right there 11 9 12 8. give me some of your main

your main thoughts on just the overall performance of them both uh well snoop is you know he's been a

celebrity a high profile celebrity for over 25 years so his performance his uh his energy

his his showmanship uh this is what's what snoop does this is why he's arguably the most famous rapper

in the world um somebody on twitter said snoop was dressed like a six-year-old that you say all right you can dress

yourself [Music] i mean i don't i don't i don't look like a snoop for fashion like that's not what

i look like stupid snoop man that wasn't and i didn't say that somebody on twitter no no no i understand i don't know your name i don't even i don't even i never think

about or care about which snoop is gonna wear it i don't snoop is just his his character's personality but um

you like that you like his character and his personality oh yeah snoop is snoop is is fun we gonna come out together yeah

no matter what you do or say i'm not in the closet with you so it's okay bro come on something like y'all little

drama the world's jokes i don't like you carrying it all right but go ahead we're just synonymous but yeah i like uh

i like i love battle man i love obviously these two have known each other for years um it was just great to see man it was

great to hear a lot of the records that was played uh x was he was entertaining he was

i like x because all of this technology [ __ ] he don't care about at all like he was just like you could tell he was like man whatever how many records i

want me to play swiss play the [ __ ] record and i'm out of here so just that attitude was fun to see in this moment too but um

yeah man it was dope man this was to me this was the best one so far yeah to your point i was really shocked at how into this dmx was granted it

swears who's family he loves snoop as well but i can see x not giving a single [ __ ] about this

yeah and not understanding it wondering what he's staring into i loved why he asked me to do this every

time he gave him the numbers he was like man there's 10 people on this [ __ ] screen man you talking about like he didn't care about 2 million he was like yo where

it's the same 10 names popping up on this damn screen but yeah that was dope man this was

really really a classic night for me i i enjoyed this it's probably my favorite because this was definitely my favorite one by far

by far my favorite i feel like we say that everyone but i guess that's the truth y'all do say that everyone whatever well

that keeps getting better yeah so at that point beany man and bounty killer was definitely the most energy the most yeah you know

that one stood on this no but last uh as i was watching this i thought about the fact that we have said

that a bunch and heard have heard that said a bunch and this is why you just got to tip your

hat to both timberland and and swiss absolutely the lineups that they have produced

have been premium lineups yeah absolutely but you gotta also every time it's a

name that i think won't show they show every time i think it's a matchup that won't happen

it happens like all of the matchups have been kind of nuts yeah yeah i do worry that the trajectory

is going just towards super duper stars and i would like to see more producers and songwriters and stuff like that

still happening maybe as undercards or something i don't know how you do it but but if they go back to producers they just have to make it to where you're

just playing the actual don't play the lyrics because i might just i might fall in love with the

actual song but when you just hear the music it might not be a better track than the one you produced you know what i'm saying so

i might love the record more right well i think that changes what their rules are here i think the rules

are song for song and it should remain probably the most how many plays and a half do you think

hardin don't get to get the ball no harden steps on the card it takes takes charge if you depends if it's the

playoffs you don't have to work hard and get to the top of this the playoffs you know you don't show up in the playoffs

we've seen it we saw you again in san antonio we got what seventeen left is the playoffs don't have a heart in beef no why would

you say i don't have beef they was up three what's the name on the warriors

well and then what they didn't win the series no just move on okay okay yeah exactly listen uh i'm sorry i

stepped on you all my bad no no go ahead uh give us your insight please my insight all right many points many many many

many many points uh so let me start with the one that i'm most most grateful about dmx looked amazing

to me sure yeah absolutely dmx in all of his weight and all of his smiling

and all of his just just behavior his mannerisms his correspondence with people

everything about dmx looked amazing uh and and i've i followed x x is one of

my top guys i've followed him i've spoken to him you know i kind of

feel i feel i feel a lot of i feel similar to him in a lot of ways i almost feel like connected to this [ __ ]

well i think your catalog would be most influenced content-wise by x

i could see someone saying that yeah but that's that's where i start x just looked great we used to snoop

looking great having great skin snoop has been rich for a long time yeah true um we used to that great

energy so that was great to see but x looked great that was that was where i started uh second one of the

things that i love about this versus thing is that it gives us a real-time view

of who inspired who and how i've said that a bunch of times here and that again was on display here

when i was young coming up it never occurred to me the the both of these guys were dogs

right seriously no never did i never thought hey dmx and yonkers is seeing what snoop

dogg is doing and is inspired oh and just happens to love dogs and so forth and so on but to see

x's admiration for snoop and the cx in real time thanks snoop for his contribution and

inspiring him the way that he did and putting him on to some [ __ ] that inspired him hey snoopy you didn't know

my big single was on the strength of you like that crazy was great yeah that was

that was great well tell the story for those that didn't hear it well x was expecting to to snoop that

yeah his record get at me dog which kind of really popped x's whole career off to some extent it was his first bit

that was the one sure was influenced by the two of them running into each other and snoop saying as he was leaving get at me dog

and x thought that was the coolest [ __ ] ever so yeah i mean one conversation between these two launched

his career it just shows just how much uh being from the hip-hop culture no matter

where you're from in the in the world chuckling it's uh it's always it's it's we connected like it's similar

you could be from long beach you could be from yonkers but through hip-hop there's so many similarities and telling

stories and just growing up in the hood like you know these are two these are two testaments of the culture like

25 years plus this [ __ ] getting his own board and everything i mean you know i do what i can while i

can man i hate people i'm here for a good time not a long time you know who was the player that that threw this

[ __ ] up against his own glass to get his own rebound to get a triple double oh that was ricky davis yeah ricky davis

did that legend was he on the celtics at that time legend thing moses maloney i love it

look where you going look what you're digging at moses malone because he invented that missing his own shot on purpose yeah no

ricky davis laid it up on at the wrong basket no one was on that side of the court yeah no that was literally a

basket and he just put it i love it legendary put it in the books it's a rebound

ricky davis thought they brought lebron in to help him [Laughter] nah they help him back he brought it

they brought in lebron to help him pack time to go buddy this ship has sailed

just telling you where ricky davis lebron has had a white dunk he's had wild teammates on the low early come on come on we're not talking

about that um back to these two favorite part was the performances i just can't finish none of my points god damn it go ahead no you go the

performance is from them both and battle cut all three oh man all three all three of them killed it

effortlessly from snoop especially but x2 and battle cats smoke x was impressed by battle cats uh

battlecasting's killing that [ __ ] yeah he smoked that [ __ ] yeah legendary producer and dj

i like i like the fact that x is always x again i feel just i feel him on it

differently like when he said when switzer's like all right go ahead and introduce you to

the [ __ ] no yeah what the [ __ ] is just gonna say my [ __ ] give a [ __ ] you introduce this [ __ ] you do it [ __ ]

i had to vote him on that but that's x though when he said it magically brought my brain back to

his drake interview that we love drake so much that we never bring it up but the dmx drake interview was funny when he was [ __ ] on drake

and then when i remembered that i was like ah maybe i wonder if that has something to do with twists and drinks little but that was my brain off and

attention anyway uh back to this battle back to exxon uh

i don't think x1 but he didn't lose he put numbers on the board hell yeah he

didn't lose and anybody that wants to say x1 i'm not mad i'm not mad now wait a minute as i was

watching this battle here we go this is what i'll say to you guys toward

the end of this battle i was thanking god for my ability to hate

why although i think hate is necessary but why

because it's important like the young kids call it hate the young kids call it hate i call it

the ability to critically analyze something and be able to spot a potential flaw

because everything in the universe has a flaw mm-hmm so that was that's not hate that's just what this

what you call that true so i know that sometimes i sound

like a hater like and our generation if you're talking about whitney houston and i point out a flaw in whitney houston it

may sound like i'm a hater no i just don't think i need to say that that's the greatest voice in the world

because that should be understood already right so this is what got me to that in watching this battle because i came away

from it with something that i never thought i would no go ahead [ __ ] on it no this is going

to sound away okay but follow me it's going to sound away but follow me i'm on the wing man

that's all i'm saying good go and this may be i don't think this is with any new york

bias but it may be i came away from this

feeling even more believing in dmx even more

as a solo act in regards to him versus snoop like what the showing he put on as

a solo act made me say that yeah i think snoop won

but dmx solo wise is better than most of y'all oh he's

still told he's better than most of y'all he's still he's over one of the greatest catalogues yeah

he missed a bunch yeah and he missed a bunch i have dmx winning and he did great with

his sequencing by the way yeah the only record i was a little confused at was uh

down on the name right uh right now what's on y'all [ __ ] minds [ __ ] with me i know somebody that told you about [ __ ] with d [ __ ]

stuck in the tree is what you would be [ __ ] with like a cat and i'm a dog i don't know so what's that your worst nightmare [ __ ] with you yeah that was

the only record i was like yeah slow down but even that goes lay low i'm not mad at that pick at all

now layla is hard i'm not of course it is i'm just not mad at him playing [ __ ]

with d again hey layla if reservoir dogs dogs comes on right there i don't want to hear nothing about

it layla i don't want to hear a peep about layla and reservoir dogs

oh oh yeah we possibly could oh yeah that's one of the greatest 24 hours to live come on i don't want to hear peep

about layla like what are you talking about i was really upset but i think x but that thing x that goes into my point

psychologically about x because when you so stand alone

you don't even view none of that [ __ ] like you maybe should like x is used to being the alone [ __ ]

okay so let me quickly ask you a question in the feature category him playing and when snoop ran out and

when snoop was running out of his friend's records x still seemed like hey i got my own

solo [ __ ] that could continue for another 20. and that's what makes x different i hope i didn't sound like i'm [ __ ] on

snapchat no no i'm not no but x is different and that's what i walked away from this

with even though i have snoop winning yeah snoop one to me all right well two points to what you just said

posse cut would you play 24 hours to live reservoir dogs or the fourth three two

one joint like i would have picked 24 hours to live and reservoir dogs before i played four three two one if

i'm gonna i would have changed i would have picked blackout before i picked four three two one shut him down same label same [ __ ]

year everything i like that he played that but i was like all right if you're gonna do the posse [ __ ] there's mad other posse cuts i think

what if he would have played the but wasn't four three two one his first the first time we heard x no no no

no no no but that was earlier he was on fire yeah it was early really it was early it was early though right it was early yeah

because i remember that was the first one of the first records i remember of x being on that was like really big

it was that one all right if he would have played the him giant [ __ ] whole [ __ ] that might have been the first time

we've heard like mike geronimo joined he wouldn't have played that no no no no no i'm like

[ __ ] is dead dead i tell you i don't know murdergram thank you murdoch murder

murder if he would have played that see all of that would have been against snooping

just to set the tone all the records that we thought maybe snoop wouldn't play he leaned on yeah he leaned on

every early snoop doggy style no you're not getting uh

drop it like it's hot no you're not getting sexual seduction i was angry at that i wanted to hear that that might have

been two weeks actually to play in the room with dmx still like yeah this is like the saint that like this the dogs is in here like

sexual seduction is like we ain't gonna go i joined this crazy big record great record great record but under you

know read the room how we say read through no i understand i think i think x but that's the other but wait that's the other thing

that blew me away about x and his enigma this was the first time i saw it like in

real time in the versus battle where yes you are snoop is clearly your

o.g and you have said that but snoop's respect for who you are

almost matches that right it's not you you can't little bro me

right oh yeah no no no i don't think i don't think snoop even carried that energy into that no he didn't but snoop doo don't do that with everybody well it

don't matter because sometimes if that's your aura then that's your aura x's aura was still

x's aura even with snoop it was like it was like a beautiful dance watching them right yeah and i think

everybody felt that and let me tell you talk about a string of records i have never jammed in a verses

the way i jammed when ain't no fun money cash hoes whatever they started

doing there yeah it was like oh my god oh my god i'm so

great i'm so glad i'm alive to see this i'm so glad i'm alive to see it and

snoop dog and it goes back to my point that i make all the time here and again don't take me no way but [ __ ] and their relationships and

[ __ ] that's cool with [ __ ] versus [ __ ] that ain't and that's it i'll leave it there

but that was on full display also what came away with x even though snoop matched that energy with murder was the

case um you beating me up with your different bags you beating me up with these bags the

same same bag different energy let me go do something with this now

see rarefied air that slipping bag flipping was the best that's slipping back that song of the night hey we asked

that question before this battle came and i was wrong i was like listen anything loses against g thing

and all that [ __ ] that's not true slipping was different yeah it felt good it felt different

yeah i almost cried this is however many years later and you watching it's almost like i cry

when i listen i want to know off the rage album because it's like i'm looking at my kid i'm all right now i had another kid it's like the story in

in culmination same thing you're looking at x and you hear and slip and you remember when where you was when slip

and slipping is one of them songs that saved a lot of our lives yeah great record yeah i feel murdered was the case because i know what snoop was

going through first rapper ever to be going through that at that time yeah so i gave that there was both real ones

amazing he shocked me with that yeah i said oh [ __ ] see he got a little bit in that bag but

x-bag is just different if x plays x's intro the one the one it just goes a little different

the feel of it but uh do we think uh i i believe swiss had a lot to do with the sequencing i think he uh

i do too yeah he's sitting right there with the dj with battle okay he was right there i actually actually which i have no issue with i actually

make it as best it was so it was so good the back and forth pause that i think that they actually sat down

together and did this i wouldn't be shy let me tell you something

anybody just together as they should though and let me tell you something uh not the [ __ ] on uh the instagram

experience uh because that uh the apple tv experience has a maybe a

10 second lag 15 seconds yeah but it is um far and better far far cry better

picture quality than watching apple and being on twitter is is the best way for me yeah yeah so far i missed the interaction from the

instagram comments but whatever i'm kind of over it because i don't really care about them anymore i don't care about all these videos it's

just bad hey we're trendy look at us caring about dmx and like mad actors ex plays two records

that i didn't like when they came out and i was reminded how much i don't like him now and i was just

i thought i wish he would have played switch those records out yeah there's a couple which were what on both sides going to

give it to you i always i never liked that record even when it first came out and get it on the floor i know i love getting on the floor i

never like i thought you're gonna say party up party up is my least favorite song of all time and it's the one that didn't work the most

yeah no i don't want to work the most i don't acknowledge the fact that it's a huge record and that may be part of the reason why i dislike it so much is

because they played it so much everywhere you went that part we go to vegas where all the white cheeks is that

right now the records coming on absolutely probably played out as [ __ ] ships and yo to my surprise sure i never thought that

that was like the hurrah record but when it came on i gave him a point

party up mm-hmm against what was that again no way no way oh wait

one record peaked maybe peaked higher and had cooler affiliations that's back

to my friend point had cooler affiliations so it played a lot for a shorter amount of time party up is

still on and me always drop it like i said they're both huge records i don't hear that anymore i still hear that yeah drop it like it's

hot they still play a huge record i haven't heard it but i do i love the record i just haven't heard it

i love party up felt good against dropping i listen to the drama before this battle i would have never thought that i would have done it like

that that's a great matchup so you know this was x heated up at the end exited

in the second half strong in the second half it was like all right snoop go ahead and keep playing yeah yeah started playing a lot

of uh more left songs i think except for the last like three

the middle the middle is really where x started picking up a lot of steam listen talk about a celebration that was

indeed a celebration i want to thank all parties involved whoever had anything to do with

putting this event together thank you uh i don't care about the numbers but go ahead rory read them off

oh i don't care about them either well don't read half a million concurrent viewers 2

million total viewers uh 26 million in stream likes uh on apple music 600 000 congruent viewers

1.4 million total viewers 1.7 billion impressions

impressions are stupid but i'm glad y'all got that yeah number one trending topic no shout

out to swizz and uh and timberland yeah this was a classic man shout out to snoop shout out to x thank you for the great music over

20-something years man that's that's not easy to do can i be a debbie downer now sure

critical analysis no i'm just gonna be a debbie downer okay got killed on twitter and i don't think

my timing was bad at all why you ain't called me rory i would have helped you oh i don't know what he's about to get

into uh i'm about to laugh on his daddy debbie downer moment i don't laugh at it no you gotta say it

it's the same the same way twitter did you got to say it first go ahead in the middle of the battle after slipping

x had not freestyle at all i take x's uh lyrics very seriously i know he does as well as you should they're they're very

important to him i don't think he just says [ __ ] to say it it's not a super lyrical miracle rapper

he picks his words very carefully so i know they mean a lot to him so in the middle of a battle he felt

the need to tell us that he was sexually abused at 13

by a 26 year old woman then consciously told us he felt okay with it because he wanted sneakers

then went on to tell us how it affected his life that he couldn't stop [ __ ] [ __ ]

because he was sexually abused as a kid and there wasn't one [ __ ] outrage

think piece if anyone else said that [ __ ] at any other time twitter would stop but i'm the debbie

downer that says would you want us did you stop the stream nah i just want y'all to be consistent in your outrage see i could see jj

already coming in the locker room and saying be consistent like if that came from a different

person twitter would stop we would have panels

think pieces it would be the topic of every single radio station vlog youtube all that [ __ ]

the world would stop i agree but because it came from him

him him it does not matter it was laughed out the building when i

think it's more than just that it came from him i think it's more than that i think it's uh

i think a lot of people are familiar with with that part of ex's story

um i don't think they are i mean i know they they're aware he went through a lot

uh i was i did not read x's book i was made aware that he didn't mention it in his book

then with i'm very well versed in x's catalog he's my top 10 favorite rappers

can't remember a time where he specifically talked about that topic like it is new news and let's say let's

say it's not new news it's something he brought up on a platform that got 1.7 billion impressions had this been

brought up you things come back into the light when they had been talked about for years but in this

climate that we're in now they're elevated they're brought back up they're re-discussed they're cared about no matter when they were told

so why the [ __ ] when he says that it's not an issue keeping a debbie down

i don't have the answers were we i don't either no no y'all do i don't i just want to

say it no i don't i don't have to i just want to say i don't know why people didn't get an up

range of raw about it i don't know i understand what you're saying i agree but it's just i don't know why

people didn't stop and say oh that was [ __ ] up x went through that who is this woman she needs to be

whatever like i don't i think the world generally views uh a man sleeping with an older woman like

that is go him okay he was 13. that's why i'm not saying that's why

it's like no i i agree i agree but he very consciously told us how it affected his life

and why he thought it was okay most of y'all male friends started having sex that way yeah i know

i don't think it was that old much older though twice twice the age i don't know if it was twice the age she was 26 he was 13

like joe i lost my virginity a year after that but it was a girl that was a year older

than me that's not sexual abuse yeah you're correct a lot of my friends lost their virginity to women in their

20s it's wrong like it needs to be talked about it's a predatory [ __ ] we've been talking

about predators for the past two weeks for sure i agree how the [ __ ] is this not predatory behavior and why does it

not matter when it's this situation or this scenario well i think that x wasn't

he wasn't speaking like a victim maybe that's why they didn't really feed into it he wasn't coming across like he was

like all right so let's get into victims then [Laughter] we've only talked about how victims a

lot of times don't even realize they're victims well in any case let's pray for all victims absolutely

and let's take all cases of sexual abuse seriously agree i'm watching

come on go ahead analytic man get us to the funnies no i the room is heavy the room is heavy

that's awkward i feel like rory was triggered by x's law yeah i mean so now i'm delicate

with it trying to make sure he's all right yeah rory might have had an aggressive babysitter

a handsy one

if we want to joke about me being sexually assaulted sure no no no we don't want to joke about that

no you won't tell us about your capital gap experience

all right come on let's have some fun you guys okay well i don't know that it's fun what do you want to talk about

wait wait actually before we leave this versus thing and i don't have too much on here because we we've been long on this um but you see keisha cole brought the

smoke right to uh ashanti's front door oh she wants to saw that versus yeah that'd be a good matchup

i think ashanti winning that but if you add in the features ashanti is tough to beat and if you add

in her writing ashanti is tough to beat i don't think that ashanti beats kicha cole really no really got too many hit hit

hit she has big records man i'm not talking about catalog i'm talking about hit hit hit hits

yeah i think keisha cole has a a longer list of records that could go

off in the verses that's what i think that's without me checking anything she held it i know the first the first first

instinct is to say ashanti wins this because she's been a part of a much bigger movement bigger record she's written more like you all said

i just don't think that she's get let me let me uh rephrase i don't think she's getting keisha out of here very easily okay okay because i don't

know maybe i don't think keisha would win but she's not getting her out of there easy let's just look at this list of singles

that charted how many is that because i'm bad at counting say that's that looks like 18.

see but wait if she's just gonna give me the the hooks that she was on yeah of course that's part of it let's

hold it come on yeah that's why just don't then come on but other than that see and that's my point back

if you want to go back back to x and snoop i just think it's a solo artist you didn't give fab that bail so don't

don't use that scenario now i never thought fab would need that bill his catalog

speaks for itself that was that was the discussion that was a discussion we had about why would i ever think i need to

do a disclaimer for fab's catalog no no because our conversation when that battle happened

maul brought up kiss played maybe three records from a solo kiss album or song two i see what you're

saying no no no no no no no no no no needs to be no that still stands ashanti have a blast i don't know i'm saying

wait wait with x and snoop with we just need to be consistent i said one no my argument is the same hey if you

was on it you wrote it play that [ __ ] i'm just telling you the personal effect it has on me

when somebody is standing there with no co-sign through their whole career and just playing joints like it does

something to me yeah that's it but no it still stands still i just want to give fab

his credit if we're having that type of conversation because fat played his [ __ ] all right now where do you want to go

give it to me nah come on go ahead harden

i sent him out of here the organization loved him like now it's [ __ ] hard and give me the

ball you got russell right next to you chandler um do y'all want to get into you want to get into this dream stuff

this dream this dragon mag stuff yeah i guess we could talk about it for a second she was wrong

we were wrong that's what i got we were wrong she's wrong we were wrong yeah uh hell yeah

that's what you're saying i think you're saying we were wrong about drea different wrongs yeah yeah different wrongs but still wrong

yeah can you go in the kitchen and get fun roaring my god why the [ __ ] is this [ __ ] you

want to talk about i want to have some [ __ ] fun we all were wrong all right we know who the [ __ ]

how did all right let's joke about drea joking about it go ahead give it to me i want come on come on double double i'm down

why we can't talk about dream being wrong without talking about us being wrong because it's hypocritical nah she this

was a little this was flagrant this this we did not do this this was saying hey i don't believe in love if my

uh partner is not domestic domestically abusing me yeah yeah probably not a great way to view life

and it was saying like hey if you're a woman and you feel like that that you got your view of love is [ __ ] up

like an issue i would die for that why is she not grateful yeah it was distasteful it was bad it

was just tasteful yesterday we were just so she's going on to to apologize and and clean up you

know the mess that she made but she did she did apologize

yeah she apologized she didn't apologize people were sending uh the the meg tweet when meg tweeted dumb

[ __ ] that [ __ ] ain't [ __ ] funny who the [ __ ] jokes about getting shot by [ __ ] and then the other tweet about and you [ __ ] making jokes about that

is flagrant some of y'all were sending that to me let me be the first to inform you uh meg and i still follow one another

take that [ __ ] ooh got him there it's inputs hey we just last we spoke about the importance of an unfollow

we just spoke about it uh and i don't think that was directed at this podcast no no no no no it was the memes all

yeah but that particular day it was drea and cam yeah more or less yeah it was just it

was distasteful but she apologized so yeah i'm not trying to kill her do you

want to read the apology or no sure i'll read it where's that i just want to take a minute to address victims

of domestic violence and abuse of any kind and just overall humans i was wrong to insinuate that there's room for violence and

loving relationships or any relationship for that matter i was wrong to try to find humor or make light

of the situation and understand that my joking nature was damaging and hurtful it was poor judgment and i deeply regret

it this is a sincere apology for me to everyone it is always my intention to uplift women and especially black women

through my platforms my business and my words no you might be rushed you you can read

your body that read i mean you know that's true okay i'll do what i can while i'm here you can't do the tunnel with a good fit on

yeah and then she came back with i truly don't glorify domestic violence i was trying to say just love me deeply but while trying to be

funny i offended many including meg and i'm sorry let me attempt to ask you guys a question

respectfully of course sure uh if you haven't heard the the adam 22 theory that's floating around

i saw the clip great so i don't have to mention it um well actually i've already mentioned

it i said a few weeks ago do you guys look at this any differently if tory comes out and and says that this was in self-defense

and i guess you guys all answered and said no no just never know unless meg had a

weapon and she was his life was in danger there's no excuse for that

yeah if she was according to that story violating him no it's there's not room

to pull out a gun and shoot her no sorry

so there are no facts that could be released about this story to make you view him any differently of course if she had a gun or she had a

weapon of course for sure if she had a weapon then i may be able to try to look at it

differently a weapon yeah not gun but a weapon a weapon knife

gun got it baseball bat whatever something ice pick if she didn't have

she didn't have a weapon that he felt like his life was in danger there's no excuse for that i'm sorry

and again we'll wait for facts but this allegedly happened in the car correct that he was not

driving yes she would she had got out the car so yes i need to hear more facts before i say

that would be justified yeah but as it stands no if it was just hands and words and

there's no excuse for that but let's wait for facts always i'm always

willing to do that you're sick why are you laughing at me come on because i just laughing at me i just

think i view your brain a little differently you're just a sick person

because i have a question for you i have a question for you y'all didn't react y'all didn't react to my uh burnt ass

cheat crevice i didn't know what you were oh we kept that question we didn't keep it okay we didn't keep it because y'all didn't react to it but you

didn't know no i told you that i i prefer my ass crispy so here's my new

a little crunch on there yeah i like things like you look like a texture guy yeah

overcooked is always better i just like the shot going up yeah okay that's not like a shot going up

here here it is what do you think what do you think about your girl saying that your friend is cute can you

hook him up with a friend of hers meaning that she wants to [ __ ] your friend that's cute

[Laughter] that's that's what you take it to me like if she says your friend is cute but

i have a friend you don't think about the friend what'd you take it to me oh i just laughed oh yeah

i got a friend fam what do you mean what that means they don't say my friends i i'm with you no because they don't say

it that way but they say it be like oh your friend is he's so funny like all right why why you want to hook

him up then what not qualities than that they say [ __ ] like why why is he single like i got a friend

for him no i don't do this [ __ ] that's what they do that's the new like yo he's attractive

they hook him up with the fine friends like yeah gotta shoot him

shoot them and then cut them off see it's a joke rewind

have you ever been the ugly friend in the crew that met shorty first and then she was disappointed the way the chicks

always talk about it yes doesn't it feel like a good victory for you though

oh it's by myself [ __ ] always yes i won tricked you i scored he's a stud

you didn't see my best friend that's why you didn't meet me in the gym with him yeah absolutely for sure i

scored once you scored that's it yeah scored it yeah no i actually what about me after that i actually stole all his

jokes to bag you hey hey yo y'all keeper y'all keep away your friends to get [ __ ]

i've kept my friends away to get [ __ ] because i know they'd ruin it facts

a woman right now i don't know there's no way i can bring you guys you gotta know which rounds to bring

all right great now we pardon tell me about your lion friend oh i mean that's the most valuable

friend you have i'm the lion friend because i'm single so yeah you kind of have my friends rely on me but i just get mad when they don't

tell me that they lied every time i think i got you all in the corner you guys just [ __ ] know why they lie

why the lion friend is so irresponsible is because maul you're the single friend right what

if you even want to have something no cool fly relationship no he's not oh i'm ending i'm not sure i've never

had to fly because no i'm a single friend my girl knows that i don't hang out with

maul outside of the podcast so i can't lie on you you can't allow me yeah i was with maul no you weren't no

you were not now i know you're lying yeah yeah more follows me you're not with him

more follows my whole squad he's with my own girl right there uptown right yeah probably but no it's a it's a it's a

burden you have to take cause now you can't even be cool and fly with your man's girl like that because now she views you as like the [ __ ]

that gets my man into all these situations that i hate parks and road give me your new favorite your new favorite lie to your

girl uh uh it's always the studio yeah i'm about to say i've ever

finally i've finally been allowed the privilege to use the studio line

and it's pretty good it's a really good one can't fight it there's no way for them to fight it no

they're they're totally i tried it once it didn't work no they're going to fight anything they'll fight you you're going to deny

the fighters to use it i didn't mean it worked you know they'll fight you if you have a to five they'll fight that you're going to your nine to five on wednesday

they'll find a way to fight something but when they know that you're actually into music and entertainment you could be mad

but you should get into me trying to explain that we did two episodes in one day with benny oh she wasn't trying to do that you did

come home a tad bit late that night yes oh nine o'clock by the way and don't even

hear uh her response to not had to drop joe off oh joe is a driver oh yeah yeah well his

driver was both i don't know what the driver don't take days off yeah you did drop me off sam if you're listening

how was the ride in the mozzie rory did drop me off and rory's not befriended anymore that i'll lie for like i don't

[ __ ] with him like that that's true yeah yeah anymore yeah no i don't think i've thrown joe to lie in years

that's why i make up names that i rely on like it's not nobody that's real it's tony you've been hanging with tony

for months [Laughter] there's no way that she can find any questions no not at all

yo my friend baron i told you about yeah he's moving look what baron is doing got

to help him move the whole week and i'm just spending the night with him and spend the night with him big house we gotta get up

i'm so mad about it oh no anytime you lie you got to be mad so mad about i don't even want to [ __ ] help it is that baron right

there no this ain't baron right here who could this be it must be someone that doesn't know i'm potting

oh [ __ ] hey buddy like ian doesn't know our schedule at

all he only tweets about you and next month tomorrow is gonna be amazing

what are you doing buddy buddy honestly i just wanted to call and tell you i love you

i mean look what you and your manager just wanted to call you and tell you i

love you buddy courage used to do it and i appreciate that i i hope i hope you you know what i mean

and i love all you guys and we'll talk ian has four bottles of chardonnay in right now i just wanna

let you guys know i just need you in my life i love you guys so much somehow i

perfectly understand what this means though i know you do buddy i had to call you i

had to interrupt the pod but i don't know oh they gave in i got it i

got it we'll talk we'll talk later buddy all right guys have a good pod you know it

man you hear my guy's voice look what they doing to my god he sounds depressed he's more now he's

more no ian thank you for fighting the good news he called us during the party i love y'all man yo just keep doing your

thing we're almost there buddy i don't think the listeners understand what we're

going through right now oh they don't know that was awesome man that was awesome we we were we talking about something serious

dinosaurs dinosaurs we're talking about dinosaurs pretty serious this is serious stuff right important

this is serious stuff yeah i think in a month y'all could take this podcast to the end of the contract without me

we pulled that remember remember we were saying that he's like yeah we could do this [ __ ] i think we could do it yeah now's the time

august 1st yeah let's do it it's [ __ ] lit one check

left [Laughter] it's lit yeah take that damn it all

right come on dinosaurs let's do it who else who else is going to break this

record down dinosaurs came in all colors [Applause]

[Laughter] no no no no lupe i love you today i love

you lupe i think you're probably one of the greatest rappers of all time no you got his number i love your

catalogue i respect your catalogue but we need to get into this record

featuring virgil i don't want to get into the record i want to get into his weed dealer because i want that strand that made him

go on the move and that was the bar he came in with dinosaurs came in all colors

please answer the phone please of course she's not going to answer anymore get off instagram come on

word he's on live right now i'm sure i'm leaving a message i don't care

he ain't going to work he definitely doesn't have a voicemail anyone with samurai swords did not set

up their voicemail thursday thursday i fell asleep

somewhere around 10 30. i woke up at 12 30 i get really excited when that happens on thursdays

you get to wake up and check the music right uh open up the uh

itunes app for first thing i see taylor swift you mean spotify no um no i mean

exactly what i said uh first thing i saw taylor swift scrolled right by that get out of here

looking for an artist i enjoy see i like that at around one in the morning who we got here

sixth product lupe okay we stopped there we stopped at whoa

always stop that loop that's all that's that instant that feeling you get when you see someone you enjoy

sitting there with a project that you didn't necessarily expect right click on it immediately lupe is an

automatic listen for me click on it but there's only like four songs i want to say yeah four five five records

first one intro and four records but cool out at the intro rock for a little bit i didn't just hit it with the immediate purchase

heard what virgil's you know i mean you didn't you didn't give it twenty dollars i'll be honest i was turned off okay

reasonable i didn't want to see virgil's name on track one like i don't care but i got it uh i'm still rolling

because lupe's my man track two co it comes on it's called dinosaurs can't wait to see where you're going with this

one and sure enough the track is indeed about dinosaurs all right and if you didn't know the

history and origin of dinosaurs it's right here for you lupe is right here track two on

this project to tell you the truth about dinosaurs

so far i'm doing the knowledge

yo starting your new project off with dinosaurs [ __ ] in their nest

[Music] you know there's a thing of there's a thing called trying

they didn't have beds called this yeah but it's a thing called trying to be two and they reproduced and there's only

one way to do that sex yo and how does lupine know that

his sword told him you know he got some magic support

i don't think this is funny

we need an ad lib there yo but who y'all got is a better a r

virgil or lebron virgil clearly i'm waiting for the deluxe

hey they want to take these please man i'm just trying to figure out what it's all there what's the

motivation for this record dinosaurs yeah but what is he doing i don't wanna

no hold on like lupe is a complex he's one of those complex minds he thinks you know on a whole different so i'm just trying

to figure it out like sometimes you have to go into the artist world and try to figure it out i don't understand this hey lupe let me tell you something buddy

good thing i bumped into that jock wheezing chris brown record [Laughter]

hey hey cause it was a slow music release day it was it wasn't much there if i didn't see

another song i liked oh buddy i was killing this dinosaur

oh man well he continued on i know i no no no i didn't though yeah no i got the [ __ ] off of this

glue to my seat really i want to learn about dinosaurs

it didn't sound like that i promise you i can assure you it didn't

maybe i cut i cut this [ __ ] off it wasn't the time at 1 30 a.m for me to

eat no no no no and dinosaurs i was like you know what i'ma come back let me come back to them we'll come back

to it well it went over your heads that's all that's it you just not you want to do knowledge

i'm not ready i love lupe but this one i'm i'm oh no the rest the rest of the ep is good

yeah just starting this way or putting this record on here period i think this is great

[Laughter] rory rory they didn't really know how to

make votes you're missing

i'm going home an hour so i don't care

break it down race relations in a little dinosaur bag right now i have a black oh no he's about to get into the barrantosaurus i got about

three more rebounds than me until summed me out sub me out [ __ ] this

all right but i'm glad you said the project was cool oh no outside of the dinosaurs record it is a it is a good ep

including the dinosaurs record it's a good ep so the other three songs are good yes they are okay all right it's a good

good loop ap love lupe but i love dinosaurs never mind man

okay i'll take your word for it your man lodge came out oh yeah we're going to lodge at the

review i don't know if we're going to do it in depth oh i thought joe wanted to like really

come on give us a deep dive yeah of one of your faves yeah that's the standout track was it cohesive i don't have tell us

about this is there a juxtaposition i don't know no is it a concept album

i don't know is this going to move the needle on his career move the needle [Laughter]

he told us his career is over the nigel is no longer a new streaming platform that's all it's

not over all right a new career logic was uh crying on twitch

i haven't he's got to get the views up for his new adventure look i want to thank kendrick

because he doesn't know how much he was there for me nicole is this is this you drake or like an

asap and ferg and mac demarco man it's [ __ ] twirly

[ __ ] used to thank [ __ ] cats and lowering them after every do say and record and there's there's too many

people man i appreciate you all i bid you farewell

and as always where you got that from i'm obediently yours i won't be the english language

well for the first time in my career because it hurts me

and every time i released an album i just wanted to be loved and this time i don't check the internet

because i finally love myself so thank you so much

and as always peace love and positivity you're welcome logic i love you i appreciate you we love you back

and i'll see you in other endeavors i'm off to be a good father see you on twitter thank you where is he going

twitch to twitch to be a good father on twitter and why is this man hugging an alien and why

look at his his bodyguards he's teenagers crying crying in front of his crew damn bad knight

i'm not listen i'm not mad at him crying yeah i i just understand of his word

no i'm trying to understand like what is he what is he crying where is he going he's just not twisted his career as a rapper is over he's

putting out music he's streaming music on twitch now just okay you're not on twitch this is his goodbye

did you hear more [ __ ] just said yo i haven't loved myself now i finally do and i'm out to be a great father and

you're like yo what's up with him what's the problem man i just don't listen man don't get it

yeah cause i probably i'm not i'm i'm honestly confused because you can put out hey that's more

logic hive don't stop at joe no i'm just trying to understand because you can still put out music and be a

great father the two things exist together that's what i'm talking about cold got

you fooled what are you talking

they're a bunch of great musicians that are great parents like you can't be serious saying that oh that's stupid this is stupid why does

why you can't be a great parent to be a great musician well i didn't make that rule i'm asking you i'm just asking you i don't know what makes you think that

because of the pattern what pattern well it's not a serious fight for me no

no i'm just saying i'm trying to understand i'm looking for understanding i'm trying to understand what is this what is this

about why is he crying why you're not where are you going you're just putting out music exclusively on another playlist

come on man this [ __ ] to see people are too weird man

there's too much weird [ __ ] going on man i'm sorry all of this [ __ ] is weird like i'll get it be a great dad but you can

still put out music and be a great dad he's inspiring why he didn't put out great music before the kids

see i said you can i didn't say he did i said you can you can still put out great music and be a

great father but whatever so joe you didn't enjoy uh what's the album called

no pressure no pressure [ __ ] what did you think about the albums i'm trying to put me on the [ __ ] spot well you said that you what did you do

to it and i listened to it now what did you think about i thought it was good music but i'm never gonna listen to it again it's the same good

i listen to good music all the time yo you guys you all got the top music podcast yo

i see how the goodman you just have all the arguments that [ __ ] was so great i'm never playing

it again yo who got the best music podcast in the world we have all the things i listen to good music all the time yo it's a classic but

i ain't like it yeah it's just not this content is not for me that's all he can rap

what what content i'll be saying come on cuz i'm the only one that got attacked by the logic hive no but it's not

yeah it's all about rapping he was he told a whole story about rapping in the grocery store

i can't acknowledge that someone is good at rapping yeah he can not care about what they're rapping about he can rap i'm never gonna say that

logic can't rap but just the music to me is not something i listen to i don't go back and listen all right

well let's have that i like the i like the couple records but that's it let's do it cool you can rhyme words together really [ __ ] well

and fast cool awesome about groceries why is that more of a stay and this isn't a logic thing this is just more to

that conversation of saying he can rap really well if you're not saying [ __ ] who cares i'll take content over rapping ability

anytime if you're not saying [ __ ] i need a little bit of both but yeah i understand no no no the best are the people that can really rap and have

content right then it comes down to content and then it comes down to people that can rap i don't give a [ __ ] that you can rhyme words together really

well what are you saying right i try not to really share much of my opinions because i'm clear that the way i view music are you serious

yeah well no definitely when it comes to rapping it's going to be beautiful i know that on here it maybe sounds like i give it up give

it up but even when i'm giving it up i feel like it's only a small sector of people who kind of follow what

i'm saying because i'm normally scatterbrained and arguing my points and not only that because you're you're a rapper and i'm an artist and people

are gonna oh my artist i've gone i've gone through it i kind of just viewed things very differently let me

know let me start with yeah i am not angry at anybody who says logic is a great rapper right

let me start there because i think in some of my just being silly with my friends i just say [ __ ] and y'all run with it

because y'all don't have anything else to talk about and cool so logic is not the worst rapper in the world

logic can rap my issue with logic has never been well

let me not say never is not the fact that he sounds like he can rap

but it's just that that he sounds like he can rap i listen to this album and i

must say it's one of the better logic projects out of the last three okay no id did a great job with uh

the soundscape and i hear industry work i hear what it could have been but because i've

been in this game i also know what a collection of songs just sounds like

and logic for me has always sounded like just a collection of songs

logic sounds like gentrification to me for me logic sounds like the guy that is

standing furthest away from the equator but is here to tell you all about it

it's it doesn't say that he can't rap as a little white boy growing up listening to rap who's bright

i'm sure you can listen and figure out how to rhyme some [ __ ] which is why you probably hear some of his influences

in him or at least the attempt but as far as soul like the fabric

of the core of his music i don't feel it i don't feel it and i don't believe it

and the content is not for me the first song he started telling me about how he was uh struggling growing up in the bed with

his nine sisters or whatever the [ __ ] he said i don't know but it was like ah cool i don't want that from i don't

that ain't that's not what i'm here for from you it don't match for me a lot about rap is how you ha the

image less about rap and the image and what we get from you logic's image i don't need what he attempts to give me

and it don't connect versus give me another white boy versus a russ

a rust beat come on you could feel the bop like before there's a word said you

could feel a certain bop you could feel a pocket you could feel like a certain appreciation it don't just sound like

pander music every time i listen to logic it sounds like he's pandering to a specific

audience and that's been forever yeah so joe says i hate i don't ask you his first album

like it came out right after good kid mad city and i felt like at the time

he followed even the exact sequencing he had like the mad city like the trappy kind of song

like at the same spot on his album and then the next album came out and

kendra could just come with all right and it used those jazzy chords on the keyboard that no one in the history of mankind has ever used for all freak that

then his next single had the jazzy voice chords that's why i've always been turned off to logic although he can rap and he has

good production on his albums yes you just don't feel like it's it's you feel like it's a copy paste it's a bit a little bit just

i don't i don't like the integration that's that's a good way that's a good way to flow through all of it as well

i don't like i may like the song and i may like the beat i never like his integration into what

he's on ever that's joe not telling logic hive how to feel and yes he should be able to

retire peacefully and joe shouldn't have anything to say it don't matter logic loves me hold up but what did y'all say what he

said he said it right hold up

yeah you're both black man we're not brothers and we're not one in the same but i do understand what he was saying i love you too logic

nicest guy in the world but when y'all say retiring

your camp your camp started this what is your retirement he's streaming his music on twitch now

no no he's doing this gaming this album i think he's doing that on twitch is that what he's doing no he's doing that on twitch as well but he's

his music is going to be streamed exclusively retired and i'm not making any more music more you know what retirement means but he's

gonna make more music and just put it out on twitch listen i don't know that

i'm happy for logic i'm happy that this album is better than a few of the albums i'm happy that his

fan base is really enjoying this and this is a great way to go out on on a higher note for you i like that

and that's where i'll stop i'm not going to get into a r.a the rugged man rant i read the post

i did too it was a weird description anytime you think joe's

little tension or beef list can't get weirder it does right tell you is there an award for that uh it should

be our yeah the title of our group chat that's just just every name oh we gotta add it we gotta add all right to the

group chat no we don't

like even cold like because i heard the cold pack when i woke up that night i think the

first one i heard was the climb back and before cole said a word on it i

felt it yeah that's what i mean just about the fabric of your [ __ ] the soul of your

[ __ ] and that's not a color thing again i brought up rust rust makes music

that i feel a lot of the time sometimes well and he also makes his white boy music let's not act like

m doesn't have feeling when it comes to white rappers probably one of the more feeling rappers

that you could bring up so no i don't think you're suggesting it's a color thing gotta explain it for the idiots out there

but yeah definitely not a uh color thing i felt this climb back [ __ ] before j cole said a word both of these tracks

were i love the the beats climb back is the one though the first one from the first one for me

at least yeah me too then don't say it's the one so definitively then

for me it's the one and what do you mean by the one come on elaborate uh i bought out of a two pack you

compare because that's what we do in hip-hop uh it's the one that i prefer i like coal with that

type of sample and b and just rapping i like hearing cole's perspective i like

to hear where cole can just tell us what's going on in his life without it having to be

part of an album a pressure of competing with the other two gentlemen in his tier when

he can just tell us what the [ __ ] is going on and how he thinks in this moment i like lucy's a lot from

people like cole me too i like him from drake although i like him from people that can just get their [ __ ] off

without any pressure that this has to be part of an album i can just tell you what's going

on and i'm a great rapper and i'm going to pick a beat that's minimal that has a good sample a easy drum pattern i'm

going to talk my [ __ ] i think he did say these are from down though oh great well then never mind but still

my point still stands you know i'm not having any pressure of this needs to be on a chart right right right like i'll just talk

they're still going to chart of course they will yeah of course i mean where they are in their careers it will

but they you know they have to subscribe to whatever the single-esque pattern is i'm glad

cole is liking the t-minus connection yeah yeah t-minus it works it works well

yeah it works this is one of his best uh to me one of his best lyrical performances on the climb back

you think so yeah no i think he wrapped his ass off on this by far i think that's i just think that's a big statement because cole can

write he jumped in and out a lot of different flows there was a lot of lyrical venom

on this one well no and this isn't a time to go back to [ __ ] on logic but this is kind of my

point of people that can just rap we all know cole can rap we all know logic and rap i

appreciated what was being said about these things see and that's where joe becomes the bad guy what because that's different raps

who between it's content it's not right the ability to rhyme and flow

can hear what you're saying yes we know a plus crap but whoa yes those two things are true

they're not they're not too many people that can rap with j cole night and day and coal keeps getting better that's

what i said this is to me this is his best lyrical performance to me yeah like i

he the way he was flowing on this and what he was talking about the content like this was like i enjoyed this i

might have listened to this i just kept this looping for like maybe an hour yeah i played this [ __ ] a

good five six times yeah this was special this was special

lion king was dope too though i liked it too yeah it was the lion king was probably a better song overall but this was a statement the

climb back was the statement like i rap better than alia right

it sounds like both of y'all playing it

uh-oh

look forward to whatever you're doing cole this was a statement yeah like this was definitely a statement to

a lot of the rappers out there um he's again this is my favorite

j cole lyrics to date definitely well he's retiring as well mo

is he i don't know if that's been announced though that's i mean he alluded to that and

he won his last album to be called the falloff so there you go yeah we'll see oh i don't

think he's actually retiring okay i don't know if logic's actually retiring so

i wish well to both of them absolutely well somebody got somebody got to follow

this who's going to be what this type of lyrical

performance from the rappers in this tier no one has said candy man yeah i don't

think somebody has to follow that i think so listen drake cole and kendrick are getting the [ __ ] out of

here and they're gonna make room for the rotties and the babies and just the

different style that is gonna dominate the next 10 years i've said that here before i don't know i'm old don't listen to me

but no i think i think that we should appreciate cole kendrick and drake and sean and

wale and that whole class the same way the same way we appreciate the

class of 03 in the draft i i have a take that i'm gonna save for when if you're gonna make a sad

agreement i'm getting the [ __ ] out of here sexual abuse is a thing um

i do have a take about when those three four five all retire that i'm going to save but

that will be the the biggest change in hip-hop ever as it stands right now uh if you're

looking at the field uh i agree to make room yeah this would be the that'd be the biggest change i don't think they'll ever have yeah they're not going away though i don't

know why y'all feeding it today they might slow down but retire okay slow now it'll be the

biggest thing you have to hip hop period it just doesn't make sense as an artist to retire right now

right i just don't i don't like the way you could just stream music like it just you can put out music when you

want it just doesn't i don't understand why you would even entertain that like why this is the this era right here

it's easy to put music out it's easy people for people to find your catalogue it's easy that's where you'll never even

attempt to understand another way outside of your own thoughts what do you mean you can't figure out why somebody would want to retire

because as as an artist it's super easy to sell music and get your music out there now

yes if you no longer have the passion for it why put out some [ __ ] and ruin your legacy no don't don't ever because i

don't want to do it when you say retire you don't have to like stop making music is what i'm saying right you can keep doing this put our

little two-pack put some videos out if you have no fulfillment in making music anymore and want to move on to

other ventures i understand that there are more there are more and more of our rappers that are slowing down the release of music

not speeding it up and there are a lot of rappers that release

a lot now because of the streaming the younger ones and then there's there's a lot of maine artists like big

artists that put out a lot of songs on their projects because of streaming every artist don't feel like you're

saying i'm not saying every artist does i'm saying i just don't understand why you would stop making music in this era

it just doesn't make sense especially for someone that like a lot of these guys that we're talking about don't even do a lot of press or any of

the things that are perceived as negative in as being an artist just put the music up like they don't have to because

they're going to put it out and it's going to do numbers like they don't have to run around and do all the [ __ ] that's all i'm saying it's not the same

pressures as it was years ago of making an album it's like you can whenever you're ready yeah some artists have that luxury

whenever you're ready go right it's still pressure thank you all you're saying that's a mad

person yeah all of that is cool there's still mad people that don't feel like y'all i'm saying no i'm saying to the ones that to the ones that

like kohl's you're saying he's alluding to retirement i think there's no more than why he would even think about that than any other artist

why because you've now been revered as a great and you have to deliver it to what your

older catalogue is no you know you don't you just have to be who you are code just has to be cold he doesn't have to try to fit into no

new sound no new look new trends that's not what i'm talking about the pressure of cold chasing your back he didn't want to

be here tough his whole career he sounded like the guy who didn't want to be here at all so now that he's that i'm it's my

opinion my take from him so now that he's at the end and reached the top of the mountain and he's saying you know i think i'm i'm off

it like who the [ __ ] are y'all to say yo i don't get it he's only been we're telling you fans

that's who we are the most important part of the culture which is the pressure i'm talking about no i'm not dictating my life but what

the [ __ ] the fans are saying what are you talking about no no you also like a lot of artists do not dictate your life i don't think gold

does oh no i don't think i'm not getting in this this argument because i'm just saying everybody don't feel like that that's all it just it's

shocking to me to hear them say well no cole responds in music to a lot of the critiques

of twitter and of social media so yeah i think i'm not saying he cares but he cares

enough to reply to it in his music and i think he deeply cares about his fans and this is who

already was dropping uh taking four three and four years between projects

name me the artist in year four you know that's steep two at most no way three

but he was still active though don't make it seem like he didn't put anything out unfortunately i'm saying yeah but i'm saying name me the artist

that in year 13 kicked it up to the highest of frequencies

uh the guy that was at the top already minus mixtape wouldn't it slow down wouldn't they want to pull

back i'm not saying you wouldn't want to step away when they want to further their label i'm i just don't understand how

you would what's another uh talk uh telltale sign of that it's called on tour yes he do what are you talking about

taurus and also towards a [ __ ] he does all the hbo documentaries about him he has a deal in in regard to the label thing you just

mentioned too he just wrote an article for i forgot what the website was but he's talking about i brought it up in the last podcast he's

talking about want to be in the nba and stuff but then he was talking about the label and he realized that the only way for

the label to really get popping is for him to be associated with it not just as a ceo

type essentially yes no paraphrasing but an act that's how you bring the light to the label you don't bring the light to the label by just

hiding in the back and no putting signing people like that's not gonna help no you're gonna be active you don't have to you don't have him being serious

about his retirement at all i don't think so so i understand what you're saying and i'm saying i'm saying what he wrote in the

article about wanting to make his label pop currently and that required him putting out music

on said label and with said artists to bring light to them

i see the dreamville takes advantage of the dreamers part exactly makes sense uh and no cole's

never went more than two years album-wise and listen i could totally see him falling back with me i'm frequency but i

don't think he's retired but i could be wrong i don't know you just mix tape you said with mixtapes

i'm not including the mixtapes albums only two years and he put out the the revenge of the dreamers [ __ ] in

between of course early in his career and a bunch of mixtapes 2011 2013 14 16 18. no that's a tour tour

that's a tour these are tours

albums uh 2011 2013 2014 2016 2018 24 what a guy yeah what a [ __ ] man

what a guy that guy's a man

i still got him getting the [ __ ] out of here on y'all ain't changing nowhere man all right are you guys excited for

jermaine dupri's uh we are the world charity inspired record maybe who's on it

uh well according to page six jermaine dupri is producing a charity song called change inspired by we are the worlds

with neo kelly rowland monica miguel gary clark jr jojo eric bellinger and

angel don't skip over jonte austin like that oh did i i'm sorry i love john t awesome i did yeah

uh he said i've had a few people who have rejected being on the song

a week ago those rejections had me in a [ __ ] up uh space trying to do something good for a cause

so i had to get myself out of that funk i'm a songwriter so when it comes to someone rejecting my songs i start

thinking the song sucks immediately that's when i started reading that quincy and michael jackson did we owe

the world prince came to the studio and rejected being on the song when i saw that it relieved me because

i'm like that's why prince wasn't in the song because he didn't like the song

i think this is all hysterical maybe i have a warp sense of humor i read this article and could not stop

laughing why he had mad artists tell him his [ __ ] is trash

and then felt better because prince went to quincy and michael and said this

is trash well yeah yeah that's the ball yeah

like if prince is saying something is tragic just like uh so but are we saying the caliber of artists that are turning jd down

you know because if somebody came in and print studios nothing michael says

yeah and by by the way we are the world

prince might have been right

if that's what we're doing let's step into it let me let's follow the shot through pull it up come on [ __ ]

yes i'm 30 years old right so i only heard this later in my life so i didn't

i wouldn't remember hearing this as a kid of course you didn't like it as a kid i didn't have any years in the 90s

i didn't hear we are the world well no you heard it i'm saying something yeah i don't think that's what was to ask me he was saying fresh off the block

i did not feel i didn't have those ears you didn't feel it okay oh you didn't feel like you was part of the world [Laughter]

now let's just come clean two two posse cuts that we need to talk about swagger like us and we are the world

similar songs no for me it's uh we are the world and uh we're all in the same game

this is we got a world of way and we're all in the same game that was a whole album though wasn't it

i have the single okay

this is a true showing of his age that he's youtube oh absolutely oh no i don't have it in my itunes i

don't come on man why would i have this why would i have it why would i have a quincy jones throwaway beat

in my isaac quincy jones throw away because kevin cameron wouldn't even take this because you have draped for a

raisin throwaways in your itunes you've been talking about vital for nine months that's why first of all

how dare you even put we are the world in the same sentence as vital

what don't you like about we are the world though i love when maul skips the joke and addresses us seriously for real get this [ __ ] off

more i'm just saying what don't you like russell westbrook ignores the temperament of the team and just goes

sometimes that's what you got to do who's this kenny rogers yes a lot of people that white people

told us was great wasn't great al giro wasn't the greatest either christopher christopher columbus wasn't

great either look hey i'll take that back about algebra

that's my first time ever saying that i'll take it back hey man yo who is this [ __ ] man this song's trash who was he

the cause was great everyone that's gonna not take jokes this song

[Laughter] are you listening to this song

mike i can see it in michael's face that he hates this [ __ ] though but this is why this is why you

got to watch the young people because they weren't there for the experience i was not here in 1999 the fabric of our

history rory there was a whole four-year period where all the songs from our stars were just

talking about the children i'm aware of the era i wasn't there for it mike uh

whitney and i believe the children are their future [ __ ] who else everybody graduating that's a

children's song out there yeah you had to believe in the children in the future okay

i don't want to hear this anymore i told you it's nice if they were if they were singing about saving the saving the dogs

rory would love it right i love it because i'm watching the video picturing uh quincy high off quaaludes

i'm the only one that still puts merit to that interview you know it wasn't a lie is that the

rizza listen that interview was not a lie jermaine jackson snuck in

and latoya hey that was the definitely y'all got my brother and sister with me

yeah

y'all 80's i get it it's for a great cause which is great i love that they raised

money i hated the the uh we are the world 25 that they did listen i tied quincy

and his quaaludes to [ __ ] will smith and dwayne martin's relationship too so no i need to i need some context

how how does your brain do it because more my brain connects things your brain doesn't understand anything

and my brain understands my brain connects things you just try to force things to connect your brain

it doesn't it doesn't connect joe move on quincy jones is connected to will smith and fresh

prince and dwayne warden yes he is he's connected to fresh prince yes that is a fact

never even also connected to quaaludes yesterday martin was on fresh prince he's also connected to quaaludes he also

did an interview saying quaaludes make men [ __ ] men i could continue with this i will not so

just shut up you shut up [ __ ] [ __ ] out of here quaalude brain man

other places man my brain lives in separate dinosaurs except for the

dinosaurs i'm not doing that with lupe yo truth be told i don't i've ever want to talk about anything you talk about

ever ever anything that we talk about i don't want to discuss when i'm home i'd be so happy i'm quiet when i'm home

oh just chilling low in order and you know how bad my opinions and takes are when i don't care about

that type of [ __ ] and i'm forced to make one i'm gonna have a shitty take i'm sorry

i ain't mad at that though that we in the world we are the world take i'm not mad at that oh no i care about it i care about

michael i care about quincy i care about their music that song is bad that's a real opinion i that wasn't on

the doc i'm not mad at that i'm not mad that that's something i feel how do you feel about heal the world

ah i'm cool nothing world related no i'm playing a bad song

that i always wanted to play here

how dare you i'd be wanting d nice to play this record but he won't

i think this was white people's uh take on new jack swing it sounds like

i liked it this song used to always come on after uh i want to sex you up and i taped it

yeah yeah yeah hey this [ __ ] is hard though

um this is my dollar van and queen soundtrack

i wasn't outside hey never heard this song right mo tell true

come on give it to me how i never heard this song you swear you heard all the songs i heard fam you are a year older than me

one year i promise you just one year safari called me the other day and he was like yo i always thought you were so

much older than me i'm your age [Laughter] it's cause you act older they can say yo

i'm your age yeah stupid man yeah how old is you 39. oh all right

did you just give it but i never told people to think but oh i know why they think i'm so old i was so successful

early on oh talk your [ __ ] no you just act old no i was successful earlier drinking coffee and reading the

newspaper at times how old was you 101 rory 11. come on i was successful early on

wait in comparison how old rory was knock it off man rory made thousands more made thousands

parks made thousands he made thousands yes joe you're right savonne made hundreds alex

made hundreds i'm carrying a squad over here okay save

on you ain't make hundreds your time stamps last episode was reflective of your wage you just said

[ __ ] it huh yeah and [ __ ] said yo they talking that [ __ ] this app that was his times there well you told

him not to to categorize the [ __ ] no more no i tell him don't post our phone calls i want to hear time stamps god damn okay

got you wait do i yoda fellas just talk and check it out

uh what else we got tyson tyson versus roy jones nate robinson versus jake paul

[Laughter] that wasn't real was it it's real undercard what they've really been trying to do

when [ __ ] laugh like they could take jake they was trying to get that going if you laugh if you laugh i gotta assume you

could take jake all right and jake paul wants smoke so go ahead any listen to podcasts

jump out there rory or parks any one of you white boys the white boy

crown why we gotta fight rory liked this song i think rory liked

this song that's his group first of all that's your groove the music is great and second of all there's a whole community of our audience who can tell when rory

has the aux i don't think i'm hiding it he always plays but we never tell him we never

tell him the difference he always plays dinosaurs oh come on mike tyson versus roy jones jr

yeah they have my 10.99 20.99 what they want 70.99 i got 200 on this

where's it gonna be uh is it pay-per-view yeah whatever they want for this thriller

yeah because triller i think is doing showing the donkey series leading up to the fight oh they're doing the uh what's the old floyd [ __ ] 24

7 yeah yeah they're doing that interesting i'm watching this absolutely i don't care that they both over 50.

i don't care if they washed mike mike look at height man michael michael beat the [ __ ] out of roy

jones bad but roy don't look bad no no no he doesn't he doesn't look bad he just

don't look like mike just those clips that yeah mike is put out listen mike mike was great when he

wasn't in the best mental space now he seems to be in a great space

mentally you think that'll make him better as a fighter absolutely because it becomes more mental as you get older

okay like he's still he's obviously in shape if you watch mike's podcast and you've heard him speak about his

mental state when he was fighting verse and versus where it is now and you just hear that peaceful it is dangerous

i could see him needing to unleash that rage side no pun in a fight

yeah and roy jones for me granite legend legend legend i'm not hating

but roy jones ended being the last one to know and i think he's right back being the

last one to know he shouldn't take this fight just

because it's called an exhibition does not and just because mike is in a better mental state does not mean that once

mike gets in that ring something won't trigger in his brain no it triggers to destroy no person no

no no no no no no no no no no no no it triggers we know this about mike that's why we're all watching roy jones

jr is a [ __ ] legend and all the talk says mike's coming back

mike's returning not only that superlatives i've seen a video quite a few times of mike

sparring and the sparring dude saying mike mike [Laughter]

yeah that's like when your dogs rewinded it to make sure yeah that wasn't crazy but that bid when he's

in the corner and mike is a little too closely i'm watching that saying i get why the sparrow dude is saying that because like you

close to me you you you're gonna kill me too real right now yeah i don't think i

don't think he knows how to be for play play yeah and that's the thing that i think mike he just because of where he is mentally

he can he knows how to turn it off and on like he can he can control that better now

i think he can too but i still think when mike gets in a ring with a real opponent [ __ ] what it's

called an exhibition uh trial whatever you guys want to put a title on it that's the only question

mike is going to turn into mike no matter listen where he is

this is their own [ __ ] let me tell you something i've never been in the ring with mike we could all tell the stories of

what we imagined that it felt like i've never been in a ring i've never been in a ring with

mike thank god no i've honestly no no no no no no no no no no no no no no

it's not thank god i have the same exact feeling doing a podcast with mike

that i imagine they had fighting mike hey at any wrong move

hey man i tell our story a little while ago i was going to visit a girl and she had a rock wilder that was just a little wild and you couldn't get up to the house

without battling her yo who the [ __ ] who has the goals

hello yo buddy lupe fiasco

what's up sir how are you doing man father i'm walking for you i'm going

i called you live from the air from my podcast this is joe buddy from the joe budden podcast first of all

we want to congratulate you on your new project thank you second of all what the [ __ ]

are you talking about on this dinosaur song tell it come on give it to me it's me

i'm talking about me you're not telling me that you're the dinosaur what

yeah i'm a dinosaur you don't lay [ __ ] eggs when you have

sex lupe what are you talking about first of all joseph you would be a

dinosaur but you you retired so you extinct so you off yourself of course this [ __ ] i knew he had some

type of fancy metaphor yeah of course how do you metaphor dinosaurs i know i gotta go listen again

now i feel stupid yeah we we old ass [ __ ] man wait i gotta go listen again man

nah cause i gotta go now i'm reading the lyrics and i get it [ __ ] lupe i apologize for clowning this song

earlier like i don't even know what fossily means fossils anyway not only is it

about it's a it's personal in that sense it's also it's also meant for my for my

nephews and my gods like they're little kids so i wanted to like explain i took my godson uh

to the museum one time i was in new york and he went to go see the dinosaurios so i just wanted to kind of replay that

moment as we were walking through the museum looking at dinosaurs um but then also it's uh um

you know we could be extinct you know at any given moment this planet could just take a [ __ ] on us

so it's about that too recognizing the fragility of our mortality because there was a whole whole other

race of beings and entities on this [ __ ] laying around no more at all and we we could we could be in the same

space so enjoy life you know but it's also about old last [ __ ] who's still trying to rap never

remember hey i took myself out that boat i ain't old trying to rap it's just

y'all now it's just you and royce you royce black dog you know the crew

right but we still nice we still dangerous we're still putting out projects that are relevant to the times that still deliver power and

a concise lyrically word play is as sharp as it's ever been i mean we still got we still got life in

us i'm trying to hit a rowdy rich [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] that

so that's what it's about now i'm glad

when you gonna battle somebody man nobody want to bottle me

it's not true they don't [ __ ] don't battle me

b.o.b b.o.b was looking for you for a few years [ __ ] you ran ahead no way

cut it out i like b.o.b don't do that yeah maybe i'll be homeless but i mean

remember when remember when most def one at the rap he wanted to battle and he was gonna get his crew and

everybody's gonna get that crew and i was like i'll do it i remember that he's like he's like

i nah just like nah i don't blame [ __ ] though i ain't got you all right man you ain't you showing no signs of

slowing down until you start talking about dinosaurs and [ __ ] but that ain't uh that ain't my that

ain't my that ain't my zone you know the battle space nightmare is all that's for other folks where it is right now wait we can't [ __ ] with that they're

gonna kill us a killer [ __ ] fly out to kanye and help him

that's yo man [Laughter] [ __ ] that wasn't me on graduation yes

loop on the third coming right here with my man that's my word i remember that that was you listen joe i mean do you

really care about kanye like that deeply no no i do though i love them

i mean i i care about him as a person and i care about him as an individual but i'm not really in his business like that why are you i

always say that why you post that throwback drake picture huh why you post that throwback picture of

you and drake you and aubry because you didn't listen to the album

uh uh i'll be honest after dinosaurs i said i'm gonna come back

yeah i mean you didn't even listen to the record so you don't know what's going on that's why i'm asking you to listen to the [ __ ] record

i am tonight that listen to the joke it'll make perfect sense you don't think

that joe budden is not listening to your album you don't think that right no no listen listen to the uh to the uh

lf-95 but look at the comments underneath that drake picture and you'll see why like you know i like to do like like

fourth dimensional metaphors that come into real life you feel me like a pop-up book

oh i gotta check i gotta check this out i see the little comments talking i didn't like you having virgo on your [ __ ] either i'll tell be honest with you

you didn't like i had what virgil virgil gave more money to the black lives matter to everything on this phone right

now my god oh my god so how about how much money you get what that what they gotta do with my

statement my [ __ ] how much how much money did you give them what's in there the rest of them [ __ ]

[Laughter] yeah i'm here lupe what's up

wait how much did john [ __ ] give to black lives matter i gave money by the way i did as well

i'm not gonna say what the amount was on here but yes i i i gave more than 20 or 50.

take that it wasn't in the hundreds i'll tell you that much yeah i know you raised a million dollars

right that's great he raised it where did it go

did you raise a million dollars no but i if he raised that i just want to know where it goes i hear people raising money all the time but where does it go

yeah he raised a million dollars and he also also when he posted up that the 50 jump he had already gave like

tens of thousands of dollars he was just posting up to 50 to 50 dollars for broke [ __ ] who felt like they

didn't have him see look we had no issue with that that's why i don't know why you're

telling us this i'm saying i ain't want to hear track one

we never even brought that up that's it

way back way way back now your phone is cutting in and out and i can't hear you

where are you right now in the world don't worry where i'm at lupe will you

come on our show please man [ __ ] y'all man

yo well we like you what's up [ __ ]

are probably gonna be friends forever right but you know outside of the circle the [ __ ] that i call cool i don't [ __ ] with y'all [ __ ]

that you [ __ ] tried to slight me on the cast i was like come on man i can ain't that type of party when are

we trying to slide you my [ __ ] stop playing don't get amnesia

i'm asking take that rory you know what the [ __ ] i'm talking about where i gotta go i gotta go through this

i really don't i don't think he knows uh lupe yeah that's gotta sit on so many [ __ ]

like slightly and casually y'all forgot all of the instances where you just slightly lightly casually [ __ ] on [ __ ]

yeah yeah wait rory [ __ ] it on lupe i think i've spoke nothing but your

phrases my entire life i'll remember which

it was in regards to you saying i said that the public perception might be that lupe

uh is isn't hot or he he he fell off or some [ __ ] like that we was talking about i said the public was not me i'm smart

enough to know that he hasn't fell off i'm saying they're coming perception would be that lupe ain't hot

we did we did the science yeah [ __ ] ain't [ __ ] would never say lupe like i would never think that in my

i'm saying the public perception would be that why are you grabbing drake's stomach like this in this picture

like yo you gotta you got the backstory behind that was so crazy that was the night that i knew that i knew drake

was pregnant over the [ __ ] world i was i was in the dressing room like yo i don't want any problems i just i just want to be a fan i don't

want i don't want none i don't want none of this smoke so you start rubbing his stomach nah some [ __ ] was fighting in the crowd

oh so you was protecting his stomach yeah you don't see the other two fixed security [ __ ] on the side like [ __ ]

you know he was in chicago ah all right there we go there we go it was a bunch of gangsters in real life

i know your history you don't follow me with those swords yeah i know where you come from that's

that's why i was terrified when you said you had beef with me i'm aware of who lupe fiasco is outside

of rap all right well what if i'm not that yeah i'm not that [ __ ] man i'm not just a rapper [ __ ]

i'm aware i do other [ __ ] and uh i come from different places i come from from very very crazy places hey if i

come to chicago and you don't rub my stomach [ __ ] i'm gonna i'm not rubbing it

the [ __ ] gave me the biggest hug of all like it was the hardest i've ever been hugged by anybody in my life like the

[ __ ] was like so od but he was just so that night was the night i knew that that [ __ ] was something special

like he had more of those looks like a good hunger all right i'm not doing this with you

yo congratulations i'm gonna listen to the project later tonight lupe we love you all of us all too i love the problems

i'm admitting it all right all right luke 1. hi joe be well my man i love lupe fiasco bad

he's hilarious i feel like a lot of the old a lot of the dinosaurs

are pretty funny man yeah it's these young [ __ ] they're shooting everybody

no man that's not what you thought about mall i remember what you were talking about now what are you saying what he's doing when i brought up lupe versus the beans

and just your tone was kind of reckless we said lupe versus b that's a weird thing to bring up

i bring it up every time it's like a battle no not a battle i should have been in reference to where they

sit and how the streets appreciate and respect beans and totally disregard lupe's pen

every time i always make that uh make that comparison because of the contrast and i [ __ ] it on

lupe i won't say [ __ ] it on but your take was if i was the person i could take offense

to it oh i mean i won't say [ __ ] on no i'm no lupe for years man i got

i'm very familiar with lupe lupe call back go ahead lupe man we're still waiting on the fab callback

you'll call fab back man no i think fab changed his number on me after the battle after the verses no i

think it might have changed before that oh okay now you got to change your number before you mix your vote with your queen

okay yeah that's true well you don't know but no i know

anyways tell me y'all can tell me about that see i got to see that's the podcast i would start we just blurt random [ __ ] tell me about

the time you changed your number but then you gave it to a few [ __ ] and your girl find out come on

give it to me like what was the point of you changing it yeah yeah yeah yeah come on come on come back heaven come on open your phone now how

many numbers on me do you have four well no because the last one clearly i have to continue to do it

well you're the only one that's in here rory knew again yeah okay that should let you know you're new again maul is in here more ovo

parks is just parks i'm changing my numbers soon i have to too many people from like 12 years from

the past right they're not telling you nobody wants to be cool with their past no no it's just some certain people

i support that i'm not changing my number yeah i'm gonna change my number my number got leaked and i didn't change it yeah how you survived that

because i'm a survivor more that's true i was there for some of that um i was there for some of that i think

that tyson's gonna kill roy jones jr let me get back to that really quick i think tyson's gonna destroy him i

think he's taking this very serious i didn't like the way roy jones uh sparring partner looked like he looked too old

like he just looked like he didn't really i don't think this is a great idea i don't i don't i mean i'm always betting but

i'm watching it i'm definitely watching the thing is uh roy jones his greatest strength was his

speed and naturally with age that tape is off something i can still look

pretty fast i was gonna say twice yeah mike's greatest strength was his strength but he had speed too yeah and he still

has something you still have some strength he still has a little bit of speed i thought roy might be able to win because he's the

taller guy but then i saw the side by side and rory's only taller but like an inch

rory has more reach three inches i don't think that's enough when they did the side by side rory was

a lot more comparable to mike than i originally thought is what i'll say

i think it's wingspan and i want it

whoever comes out with d smoke is losing i don't think these smoke will be around

for this yeah hey you never know you never know he's making headway he's making some leeway out there

and netflix was watching that [ __ ] like [ __ ] i could see mike coming out with rock him with somebody did y'all watch our

fear city on netflix uh i started it is that the mafia one mafia i'm uh i'm 30 i'm 36 minutes second episode i think

wow man really i was gonna come in here next episode and kill it really

well i'm 36 minutes into the first episode before we started this podcast uh and it's dragged and it's the

same info that's been out forever there's nothing new well most of these guys are at all i

learned okay i didn't i didn't know about that uh concrete scam

that the mob was doing spoiler alert if you haven't seen it i mean it was one i knew about one of their biggest scams ever but i didn't know

okay i'm not i'm not some people are going to have to find new information with this i understand what rory's saying a lot of this information has been outfitted

it's an extremely surface the first 36 minutes at least is an extremely surfaced

extremely surfaced uh mob well i would hope the first 36 minutes of a

dock of a three-part um something they've done a thousand documentaries on no i don't need to hear

about john gotti uh being caught on a wiretap i've never i don't need to hear that i've never

seen an extensive doc about just how intermingled all the five bosses

crime bosses were i've never seen that yes yes in every prime story and even in the

[ __ ] um what's the the [ __ ] that forrest whitaker is doing in harlem even in that they they do say that the crime bosses

loosely work together this is the first time loosely well in that

it was loosely it's called the commission they had a name for it i i didn't know how in-depth it was you

you were more you're more informed than that than i was like i was blown away by that concrete scam

what a great scam no i mean that was their their biggest thing was anything

construction related so i mean yeah i guess if you're not

very well versed in this world sure to do this i also think it's just shot i just think

it drags a lot it's weird pauses i just didn't think it was put together well

it's made by shout out right whoever did this did something else i liked don't [ __ ] with cats don't [ __ ]

with cats that's what it was i'm with you i did think it dragged it yeah it's just not

it wasn't the best i don't need good cinematography while it drags and then you go on to the

most obvious facts when it comes to how deep this actual world is and to add to what you're saying like i just don't need

this to add to what you're saying because that was my ignorance my ignorance i don't know about the concrete [ __ ] but what i did say was

y'all are showing me the uh y'all are showing me the founder of hell's angels

and he has an extensive talking part in a confessional i see him talk almost every morning on

the news so that's one you also showed me the guy the mob guy who went to jail for 10

years for whatever and came out it's the guy that we've seen on vlad a million times that was my next point you have john a lightning

and michael franzis who we actually met on the way out of the tyson podcast if y'all remember bringing it off yes um michael franzis

and john a light anytime you type in mafia on google those two people are

going to come up so when netflix puts all this money from a producer of don't [ __ ] with cats which was a huge thing for netflix

don't start a documentary with the two most notable [ __ ] people on the internet right now they're gonna tell the same story

sir then they had giuliani there which is [ __ ] giuliani i mean no he should he

should be involved it's always documentary but i'm just saying she had people that we hear from all the time and i just see

it i see it but my guy from the uh guardian angels uh lisa evers ex-husband uh why am i

blanking on his name i don't know lisa evers ex-husband this isn't like a secret i'm just saying i don't know

okay uh he was the head of the guardian angels yeah but i'm riding with lisa so i don't know me too always

i mean they shot him uh he's been in all this yet uh

how you pronounce his last name curtis uh silva i did not know that that was lisa evra's ex-husband the founder of

hell oh no the guardian angel that's awesome totally different different angles i was very

different talking about the guardian angels my fault i made a mistake yeah curtis sleeway he's in all this [ __ ] too like

i've heard his story a million times like if netflix is gonna dive into the mob

doc [ __ ] i just don't need the most obvious people in obvious stories

with all this money behind it and then b-roll footage and this is only my take from 36 minutes

in so sorry if it gets better that's all i got i am going to

watch it oh no i'm gonna watch the whole [ __ ] yeah i'm going to finish it 36 months

it's all [ __ ] you can yes and the story has been told the story can't change it's always going

to be the same story but uh and stop making documentaries unless you find someone else people always watch people gonna watch

the same [ __ ] over and over all right i'm being a debbie downer today guys oh yeah i noticed i'm out of here right right

this second i had i wanted to talk to them all about the lakers a little bit listen you guys gonna root for the washington

football team that's a slap in the face absolutely is that what they landed on that's

that's the name of the football team it's the one that they landed on that's what they're using this year as they attempt to think of a name and i

don't know that that's not because of homeboy who went and copyrighted all the good names

trademarked all the good names did y'all see that no no as soon as it was reported that the

redskins were going to change their name some guy went trademarked 3 000 names

though it was everything uh i could be completely lying but i think i read that's how mark cuban got a lot of his bread early when the

internet started happening he just he just trademarked coca-cola.com like he would just find the biggest [ __ ]

and they'd have to buy it off him i could be completely lying but i think i read that that's a leg sounds like a great idea yo the

washington football team is [ __ ] hilarious i'm buying that merch i'll be the

marched out guy

he was wearing redskins merch i've never formed are you a [ __ ] pete

you know rosenberg somebody when i did my dmx take somebody said shut the [ __ ] up

peter rosenberg i like why is that funny

because they've been cursing me out ever since

that little logic take they did they oh my god they have been going crazy

i know i watched this [ __ ] i've missed all that no pete is the jewish gatekeeper so i understand that

but he will be trying to jewish gay keepers well he broke jewish as well well from a jewish family you know

oh i just thought that was a thing never mind

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at home is logic jewish what's up with him today rory has just

been negative nancy i just don't understa i'm trying to understand yeah we got to take rory out man we gotta get real guys

have you been using your little patio furniture of course that's where i was looking for this that's where i was looking for the

strippers with my mom on the patio yes that was on the patio oh my god

uh yeah i don't have none therefore don't ask me about the nick small oh no that's how you feel the yankees

won lamelo uh i like lamella

i still like coal too there's a few people i like i think there's a good draft coming up

yeah i think it's a good draft yeah it's it's one of the better ones in recent years for sure um

did you guys see uh dave franco's playing vanilla ice in a biopic no we didn't see that i didn't know i i

did see that vanilla i think he's gonna smoke that he probably will

that's what i think you know vanilla ice as well for sure are they gonna have the same guy that's played suge in all

15 tv series and movies yeah he shook now anytime [ __ ] comes up just throw ice

over the [ __ ] railing yeah no i really think that's gonna be

good me too good series movie whatever the [ __ ] it's his story is interesting well so no need to be told it's going to

be hilarious coming from james franco [Laughter]

i'm going home

no one cares about kanye meek oh yeah we didn't even discuss i tried to i tried to bring that up

when you try to get off sexual abuse

what we had to say on the matter hey i'm going to take this somewhere that i don't know if you guys are with but [ __ ] it

wait so you're suggesting you're not with uh oh the rights of sexual abuse victims

i'm with you rory whatever you say i'm with you x playing girl song screaming out where is it for my [ __ ]

it was the greatest yo maya and she said you know y'all think future is misogynistic and toxic

so y'all wouldn't have survived back yet hello

somebody was like i hope he's not going to play the homophobic song and me and my bad memory i was like well what

is that he went right into it oh it must be this one

was this one yeah he went right into that [ __ ] somebody said that somebody tweeted y'all i'm glad i see x he stayed away

from the f-bomb and i said oh you wasn't listening you didn't he wasn't listening because i was

listening yeah yeah oh man whatever um where are we at let

me stop man before boot camp won't [ __ ] me up show a bootcamp can't even joke with

music anymore no no god no oh we're going back we are the world

no we're not dinosaurs we're not the world and i'm not logic's brother you're a

dinosaur though no i don't rap anymore and you are you are alive brother so i escaped that

i'm not you are rory we both are because he told us

that he is never mind

they're just telling us the ufos are real now she got that real that's where we're at in the country

she got diarrhea no the ufos are real there's releasing info about out of this

world machinery that could not been made on earth the pentagon is releasing that information

thanks pentagon we knew that already he wasn't going to come with us to to storm uh no i wasn't area 54 whatever

the [ __ ] it was no is that the name of it close enough i knew the aliens were real studio 54

areas 54. the aliens are doing caucus yeah 54. if anyone keeping tabs they're

still moving elaine maxwell cell to sell to avoid assassins where's

portland too man there's kidnapping civilians off the street in portland yeah it's getting crazy out

there and they're trying to do it in other cities too so watch out 2020 just

doesn't stop getting wild man the second we think we've seen it all mike and rory jones fight and then a new

matrix comes this new matrix coming yeah

keanu reeves is not in it though right no but i saw the way he was moving in the last action movie

what was the last one he did john wick yeah he looked bad hey they watched him and john wick and

said you know what come do bill and ted come sit back on the couch adventures

back buddy no more matrix oh my god and the new bill and ted's excellent adventure does

look kind of it looks it looks good yeah first of all it's hilarious especially if you're high yeah that was

like the first austin powers yeah

always saddens me to leave man ain't too many more episodes left on this app

that's hilarious that's some funny [ __ ] right it's fine judging by my analytics maybe on this one maybe

maybe maybe maybe comedy style [Laughter]

leaving style leaving style

keep your millions nah dead ass

keep them [Music]

mortals those [ __ ] morals

yo being real

it's fine we'll be back wednesday maybe monday [Music] might do about seven episodes next week

hey hey sunday night something might drop hey keep it locked

keep hitting that refresher keep it locked listen man politics as usual man yeah you know the game you know the

vibes

yo and in that ain't no ain't no fun money cash hoes mix d you played that at

leah joint like they was vibing yeah yeah they was vibing they definitely came together that was a playlist like

they came together for that they smell like that you can feel it they smoked it they smoked it man dmx i love you snoop dogg we love you

legends both geniuses also before we get out of here

famous boxing trainer that passed away rest in peace to nazim richardson yes

legendary boxing trainer going too soon rest in peace to anybody who has lost

somebody due to covet or some other health complications during this real difficult time keep us in your prayers lord knows we

need to be there trust me we will do the same for you and yours until the next time i bid you a dude

farewell hasta la vista adios salon goodbye and all the good [ __ ] life is a series of moments

and moments past so let's make this one last as if it's all we have oh change the octave max well come on man

hey by this by this note i'm in my finisher

move i'm finishing shorty when he's changing

octaves all right we out of here enjoy your

weekend we got a heat wave coming if you're in new york y'all hold it down we will be back we

will not enjoy