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Episode 390

Chatty Chatty Feat. Westside Gunn

Joe Budden Podcast Episode 390, “Chatty Chatty Feat. Westside Gunn,” released November 15, 2020. On this episode: Joe asks the question regarding Futures decisions to collaborate with Lil Uzi Vert and other artist that he believes doesn't make sense (17:42). The guys also discuss new music from Masego, Goodie Mob, (39:16), and 2 Chainz (1:02:45) . Westside Gunn joins the crew to discuss his time on Shady records, working on new music, and the pressures he faces while being an artist in today's climate (1:38:30). Sleeper Picks Joe | Blxst - “Searching” Rory | Lloyd Banks - “Nobody Believes Me” Mal | Belly - “Lullaby” Parks | Ransom & Nicholas Craven - “Final Destination” WestsideGunn Full transcript and searchable timestamps below.

Chatty Chatty Feat. Westside Gunn

In this episode

  • 17:42On this episode: Joe asks the question regarding Futures decisions to collaborate with Lil Uzi Vert and other…
  • 39:16The guys also discuss new music from Masego, Goodie Mob
  • 1:02:452 Chainz
  • 1:38:30Westside Gunn joins the crew to discuss his time on Shady records, working on new music, and the pressures he…
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Joe Budden Podcast Ep. 390 Transcript

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    Alright, GO! *Parks and the Boys by T-Rex plays* *Parks and the Boys by T-Rex

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    plays* *Parks and the Boys by T-Rex plays* *Parks and the Boys by T-Rex plays*

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    *Parks and the Boys by T-Rex plays* *Parks and the Boys by T-Rex plays* *Parks

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    and the Boys by T-Rex plays* *Parks and the Boys by T-Rex plays* *Parks and

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    the Boys by T-Rex plays* *Parks and the Boys by T-Rex plays* *Parks and the

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    Boys by T-Rex plays* *Parks and the Boys by T-Rex plays* *Parks and the Boys

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    by T-Rex plays* *Parks and the Boys by T-Rex plays* *Parks and the Boys by

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    T-Rex plays* *Parks and the Boys by T-Rex plays* *Parks and the Boys by T-Rex

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    plays* *Parks and the Boys by T-Rex plays* *Parks and the Boys by T-Rex plays*

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    and the Boys by T-Rex plays* *Parks and the Boys by T-Rex plays* *Parks and

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    the Boys by T-Rex plays* *Parks and the Boys by T-Rex plays* *Parks and the

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    Boys by T-Rex plays* *Parks and the Boys by T-Rex plays* *Parks and the Boys

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    by T-Rex plays* *Parks and the Boys by T-Rex plays* *Parks and the Boys by

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    T-Rex plays* *Parks and the Boys by T-Rex plays* *Parks and the Boys by T-Rex

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    plays* *Parks and the Boys by T-Rex plays* *Parks and the Boys by T-Rex When

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    prison niggas come in the room, us niggas that only been to jail kinda just

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    listen to y'all. Just a couple overnighters right here. A couple drunk takes. A couple

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    drunk takes. I did the tombs once. Nah, the tombs is nasty though. It is

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    nasty. The tombs is gross. Especially on a Friday, because you're there till Monday. No

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    Joe Biden! No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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    no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no

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    no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no

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    no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no

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    no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no

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    no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no

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    no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no

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    no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm live, careful. Well, now I can't say what

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    I want to say. Oh, yeah, man. Yeah, we live. I know you about

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    to say some bullshit, too. Listen, I'll call you when I'm done with this.

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    All right, make sure you call me back, because I got to vent. All

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    right, I got you. All right. What? All right, who dropped this on, Rory?

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    No, no, no. No, Rory, no. It's Parks. It's Parks. It's

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    Parks. It's Parks. Microphone check, one, two, what is this?

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    The JBP boys bike to business. Welcome to episode 390 of the Joe Budden

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    Podcast. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, and highly favored host, Joe Budden. And this episode

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    is brought to you by Cash App, powered by Cash App, sponsored by Cash App.

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    Only the greatest app to ever exist. Empowered by Cash App. I've been on the

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    Chitty Chatty House Cash App and away giving money away everywhere. You know the vibes,

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    you know the Trick Daddy vibes. Yeah. And I've only been paying everyone's bills in

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    my life via that cash app likewise and before we get to paying everyone's bills

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    in the Chitty Chitty house from cash app you got to go investigate the Instagram

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    which has led me to I really fucking hate the new Instagram update I just

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    started it's bad they flipped up reversed it they miss the Elliott the whole thing

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    just to push ads and clothes and shit to buy and it's just like that

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    they put a little shop icon down there as if i want to buy some

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    from instagram i don't i don't need that and yeah how about give me access

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    to my followers right yeah let me touch let me reach the people right yeah

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    we had this conversation but let's move on it took me no no you move

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    on it took me seven hours to figure out how to upload a picture that's

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    not the important part yeah that's true they trying to get rid of that influencer

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    they're trying to get rid of everything yeah oh yeah yeah we know that There's

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    a deeper, darker criminal link that's going on right now, but we're not here to

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    do that. This is the intro. It's true. Fuck it. Damn, that COVID-free breathing. Y'all

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    hear it? It's a little different. Y'all hear the words just coming through the whole

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    mouth. Y'all hear what I mean? Chest clear. Head clear. Oh, my God. Jesus. Whatever

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    the fuck I was saying. You're a humble, gracious, grateful, highly favored host. Yo, Button

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    here with a few of my nearest and dearest. Maul is here giving them the

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    New York fall fashion vibes. A lot of earthy colors. Hmm. See what it is

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    now walk go hunting walk. Definitely not walk. No, I can't get you a deer

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    in that. Yeah I knew that bar was coming. Well, do you dress for the

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    men or the women? Myself? All right, Parks is here. We got Parks here. The

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    nails kind of disappeared. Oh, that's a good point. Did you give up on the

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    wave? No, it was COVID, so I really, you know what I mean? You didn't

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    want to get your nails done. You want to figure out how to do it

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    yourself? You didn't do your own nails? What kind of bad are you? Nah, man.

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    I couldn't get them done like that. I wanted to. Okay. I had to settle

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    for a regular manicure, you know? Well, how are you doing this beautiful Saturday? I'm

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    good, man. I'm good. What's up? I feel great. I'm happy you're here. I'm happy

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    you're healthy. Thank you. I'm happy you're loved. I'm happy you're feeling better. See, come

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    on, man. Listen. I'm still taking your vitamins. Male-to-male encouragement. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Multigrain and

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    shit. I'm here. A lot of water. A lot of fluid. You ain't put the

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    COVID weight back on? Oh, no, no, no. I'm still trying to remain slender. I

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    see you're getting your money's worth for that hat. They on Slim Joe. They on

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    him. I know men not allowed to talk about when they on us.

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    We not, right? No, we are. We are. No, we are. Yes, we are.

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    We can talk about when women are liking us. When can men ever discuss

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    that? Amongst each other. But that era is over. We've been talked about the slim,

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    muscular dude. Chicks don't like that. Just be fat and have some money. As long

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    as you got some money, you good. As long as you can provide the ambiance

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    and the experience. Well, now that's the caveat. I think it's for the money, but

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    so. I'm glad I was born in an era where the stomach is fine. I'm

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    glad I'm in that category now. Listen, I was the guy at the strip club

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    at 16 watching the dope boys like, one of these days, my day will come.

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    because that's every guy's guy's experience anyway parks what's going on with you man chilling

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    man i'm chilling i'm good how you doing uh i'm good man been working that's

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    it that's all y'all say every week i'm sorry i work a lot huh the

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    band dammit huh the mix done for me and demi i'm so corny now at

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    40. yes because you're a little chatty i'm embracing it though i'm embracing it you're

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    the chatty king I didn't know what you mean. Ah chatty boy. I

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    love a chat. And you're a batty boy. That's crazy. Shut up Roy.

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    If I was Jamaican I'd fuck him up for that right? Yeah. I

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    mean but you just from New Jersey. Royce. Rory, how are you doing? I'm good.

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    I'm good. I'm COVID-free. Got my test. I was feeling under the weather, and I

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    didn't want to come here and be irresponsible knowing that we had a guest coming.

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    I don't really give a fuck about y'all. Got my negative test. If y'all need

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    to see my permission slip, I slapped it right on the table. So if you

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    see me take a cough drop, it's just because the seasons are changing. I am

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    COVID-free. I got some Ricola for you. That's what's up. I have the Theraflu in

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    the bag when we take the cigarette break. Mmm, Stoves and Theraflu. But in the

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    meantime, this isn't an ad. I'm not going to say the brand. Cough drop right

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    here. We know it's Hall's. Take it away, Joe. Oh, they can't fuck with that

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    ivory immune system. It's not very good. We couldn't even handle potatoes. Did we get

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    handle COVID? The potatoes kicked y'all ass? Fuck, we left the country. That's funny. How

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    a whole disease that wiped out my entire people is now just a joke. It's

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    fucked up. What was the disease again? The potato famine. What was it? The

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    potato famine. What is that? Explain to me. I'm not educated here. So potatoes were

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    a big agricultural food within the Irish people. Still are. And they all just caught

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    the COVID and then we all ate them and then we all died and was

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    like, yeah, we got to go to America. And then we got here and they

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    was like, no. Off potatoes? No. God, Corey, look at how Rory breaks it down.

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    That was the history. No, no. I know about the potato. Yeah, then we got

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    here and there was like no shoes, no shirts, no Irish. And then y'all build

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    the bridges and the tunnels. If Rory wants me, a black, to feel bad about

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    how he got here, then sorry. I've never been that Irish guy. I actually think

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    it's very funny when my... Because I have family that grew up in just real

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    Irish neighborhoods. We were like, we had it rough too. I'm like, fam, after that

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    shit was done, we was white. We was white. It was fine. No, it's true.

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    I was telling the fellas last week before you got here, Maul, I was reading

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    the Bible for the first time and wow. What the hell is everybody so surprised

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    about why America's this way? Oh, yeah. The Bible's this way. They was giving it

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    up in the Bible. Yo, the Bible was so bad, they had to make a

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    whole nother testament that was like, ooh, we was wilding. Let's reword this. Hey, but

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    wait, and I hate to tell you white people, it's the same still. Yeah. It's

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    softer words. It's said in a more healthy way. Old Testament, New Testament, rapist version,

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    unrapist version. Oh, no, the Old Testament is mad raping. Wait, can I say that?

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    Yeah, sure. Because it was rapey. It was super rapey. And no offense, we're not

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    trying to trigger anybody that has ever experienced that. But the Bible, as a first-time

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    reader, I was like, okay, wow. This is not as holy as they made it

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    out to be. So you're surprised why all the Christian Republicans want to make choices

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    for women and their bodies? Leave them all alone. Look at what they're reading from.

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    Leave them all alone. All right, come on. We ain't got time. Shout out to

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    our YouTube viewership. Shout out to our listenership on whatever DSP you might be listening

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    from. Shout out to everybody that's unfortunately working on the weekends. Shout out to everybody

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    that's off. Again, if you had COVID, beat COVID, survived COVID, lost a family member

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    from COVID, shout out to all of y'all that are rocking with us. With that

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    said, we are here to get right into the important topics. So, JT's nipple. beautiful

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    quality quality quality nipple what a nip and I just want to dedicate this podcast

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    to the women with you know those nipples I thought we should just dedicate to

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    nipples well we've had this conversation I like all different type of nipples the Braley

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    nipples the pepperoni nipples the Hershey kiss nipples all the nipples but JT boy did

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    she represent for the nipples she did that Listen, I'm a JT fan.

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    Me too. For the people who lost JT from the City Girls... was on Insta

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    Live. Is this news? Look at us covering the hard stuff. Well, Trump won Alaska.

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    Huh? Trump won Alaska. Don't get more hype, man. Look at him already moved to

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    Alaska. Listen, man, I'm staying away from it. Packing up his North faces. All I'm

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    saying is some shit is going to happen in the next two months. Well, yes,

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    some things are about to happen in the next two months. We're not doing that

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    right. We on nip flips. She was number one trend right now, too. Nip slips,

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    hopefully. And not only do I love JT for the nipple. I loved how she

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    handled it. Don't even say nothing, Joe. Just keep on. All right, no, no, no.

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    JT's nipples. Great. Come on, Maul, because you're an idiot. Come on, I want to

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    do this with one of you Trump lovers. Come on. No, it's not. I'm laughing

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    at this. Yo, you know what? I'm figuring it out. Who's taking the bait now?

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    You know what? No, no, no. Off our texts. No, because this isn't bait. This

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    is simple. No, no, no. Hey, put that back screen, man. What the fuck? Don't

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    move that. Put that back. Do you know... If Wall's going to MAGA us, we

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    need nipples in the background. No, no, no. It's not. No, not no MAGA shit.

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    Not Trump's MAGA shit. I figured out this voting shit. Voting is simply like... Oh,

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    my God. For real. For real. This is how I view voting. This is how

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    I view voting for America. This is how I view voting in America. This is

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    so not a political podcast. It's like, we're trying to view the election as simple

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    as... Why are we still even here? The election's over. No, it's not. Listen, listen,

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    listen. Yes, it is. Look. We... Look, they counting them. North Carolina,

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    they counting these motherfuckers. But listen, voting in America is

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    simply like this. It's like having two older siblings, right?

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    And you're like the youngest. We're all the youngest siblings.

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    And it's like when you want to play the game,

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    And your older siblings just hand you a remote that's not connected. So you think

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    you're doing something, but you're really not. You think you're killing us. Can we please

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    get back to nipples? I'm just telling you. Please. I'm just telling you that's what's

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    happening. This shit is all a Hunger Games. Let me read the part that you

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    just asked me to read. President Trump is projected to win North Carolina's 15 electoral

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    votes. Electoral votes. doesn't doesn't it doesn't affect this they said they said they was

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    going i'm just saying everything when trump was saying he was going to take things

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    to court everybody's like are they going to dismiss that Pennsylvania ain't doing that. Would

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    you like me to read to you what the judge said to Trump's attorneys in

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    court? I know. They tell him to get the fuck out of here and stop

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    wasting our time. If there's nothing illegal happening and your observers were in the room,

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    then why are you here, sir, is what they said. Right. They're recounting Atlanta. He

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    lost again in the recount. What are we recounting for, Maul? I don't know. No,

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    I'm not saying... Can we get back to nipples? Pay attention to what's going on.

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    Yeah, back to nipples. Back to JT's nipples. JT deserved at least 15 electoral votes.

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    Yeah, yeah, yeah. To me, at least. I've been on JT until I seen... You

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    know what I mean? How... I'm not chasing after somebody that's just chasing after Lil

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    Uzi. I'm not. Now they're 40. You sound like a hater. Now she shouldn't even

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    be with you. No, no, no. I support. Why are you hating right now? No,

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    I support how Uzi got it. Big Pluto, Lil Pluto, they just dropped the album.

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    They just put the album out. You didn't just put the album out. Yeah, word.

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    Who just put the album out? Lil Pluto and Big Pluto. The Pluto bros. Future

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    and Lil Uzi. The Plutes. Wait, Future and Uzi put the album out? Yeah. Come

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    on, old man. Can I get everybody's honest opinion on that? I didn't listen. I

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    listened to it one time. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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    no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no

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    no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no

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    no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no

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    no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no

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    no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no

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    no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no

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    no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no

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    no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no

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    no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no

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    no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no

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    no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no

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    no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no

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    no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no

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    no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, i didn't hear it

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    future and uzi are putting an album out together it's out it's out it's in

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    your phone right now yesterday yeah it's out yeah pluto and baby pluto who asked

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    for that yeah it's not even a planet anymore it went over your head yeah

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    come on man it's a moon it's not the public school you grew up in

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    it's not even nine dollars it's just gas i love both of these dudes but

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    i cannot but y'all not going to get me to be the one to say

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    the truth here i'm not what if it's five all right listen it doesn't sound

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    bad i listened to one time it doesn't sound bad at all it should be

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    fire i'm not talking about the product of the the result of the music they're

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    both fire future's great uzi's great they're both in that same realm i mean i

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    guess i can see that world what i'm saying is how does that happen why

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    does that happen why is this happening who asked for this They're fan bases, I'm

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    sure. Yeah. Got it. And they really fuck with each other. Like, they're really like...

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    Fam, you can't... Alright, here's my issue with you. Because I get what you're saying.

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    And we come from the same fan base. How do you have an issue with

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    me and all I do is ask... Because you can't grab all the people that

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    do the rappity, rap, rap, rap, rap shit and put them all in a group

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    and say, who asked for this? Get mad when it was like I nobody want

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    to hear all four y'all rap. Yes That was the Pluto's with Pluto Godfather. Don't

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    you would don't do that because Rory is introducing a point and pushing a narrative

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    That's never come out my mouth. When did I say the future should get with

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    the rapid II rap niggas? No, you're missing my point You asked I said I

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    think Uzi and future probably have a fan base that collide together a pretty big

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    one. Mm-hmm so you being the the rap guy had Royce, Crook, Joel, all had

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    the Rappity Rap fan base. Y'all all got together and I'm sure there was mad

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    people saying nobody want to hear from y'all. But your fan base wanted to hear

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    from y'all. Yeah. So take your fucking camo hat and shut up. If that's your

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    take that you're giving me on the Uzi and Future collab album, is that everybody

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    can't be slaughterhouse? Is that what you're saying to me right now? No, I'm saying

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    fan bases collide and those fan bases would like to hear their favorite artists collab

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    together and make groups and make albums. And they really fuck with each other. I'm

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    not giving you some weird take. I hate this podcast. I hate y'all. Why? Because

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    Baby Pluto put out an album? This is bullshit. Shut the fuck up with this

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    bullshit. And now I'm not going to say it on the microphone. And when we

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    get off mic, we're already going to say, no, I feel you. No, but why

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    is that bullshit, though? I'm not even kidding. I said it before on mic. Can

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    we get back to JT's devil, please? I don't care. I don't care. Fuckin' went

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    from Drake to Uzi, who just sold 400,000 records. Yes, he lucks up with the

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    people he collabs with. Future is killing shit. I just don't understand why this is

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    so odd. Why does it seem odd? That's all. That's all I want to know.

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    Why does it seem so odd to you? Listen, no comment. I want to get

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    back to nipples. I'm not... I'm always down to get back to nipples. You don't

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    see it. I just want to know why this is so odd. If they really

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    fucking... Why do we have nipples? You know what my problem is with you niggas?

  • 17:02

    I have nice nipples. You know what? Fuck it. We here. New year. We ain't

  • 17:05

    got no deal. I'm turning up. I presented this same exact scenario when the nigga

  • 17:09

    was running around with Lori Harvey. You presented that he would do it out. Never

  • 17:12

    mind. Don't worry about it. No, I'm lost. Never mind. Forget it. If you lost,

  • 17:16

    then I'm lost. We both lost. What scenario did you present? Nothing. You present a

  • 17:20

    lot of scenarios. You got to be more specific than that. All right. What Joe

  • 17:24

    is trying to say, which I said prior, was Future is really good at collabing

  • 17:29

    with people. Yes, he's done his whole career. I love Future, but knock it the

  • 17:33

    fuck off, man. Enough is enough. Stop it. Stop it. It's been years of it

  • 17:37

    now. I'm early on this because y'all don't want to say it, but stop it.

  • 17:41

    And I'm not saying this about future because future, y'all know my thoughts on future.

  • 17:46

    He cashed out. He's gone already. And we was talking about earlier the artists that

  • 17:50

    have cashed out and continue to produce at that high level. So I don't mind.

  • 17:54

    Hey, I'm waiting to cash out so I can future. So be clear. This is

  • 17:59

    not... This is not hate because I understand it. But knock it the fuck. Fam,

  • 18:03

    don't piss on me and tell me that it's raining. I just don't. No. Have

  • 18:07

    you ever pissed in the rain? When I asked y'all if something smelled fishy about

  • 18:12

    Future running around with Lori Harvey the way that he was. And of course, she's

  • 18:16

    beautiful. And of course, he was in there and they were dating and so forth.

  • 18:20

    So we got all that. But the way it came off is what I was

  • 18:24

    addressing. And it didn't seem like and I get in trouble when I say shit

  • 18:28

    like this. This is how me and me got in that shit with him. And

  • 18:32

    like, I don't want to get into all it didn't seem like he would be

  • 18:36

    going up that way. Persona wise for this young lady. And then it ended. Nobody

  • 18:40

    ever said a word. Cool. That's respect to them. Respect to them. And now we

  • 18:44

    right back with a come on, man. Come on. This is not just Joe. Don't

  • 18:49

    paint this to make it look like it's just Joe. So you're saying that he's

  • 18:52

    doing this because he's not hot? Let's not say him because we don't know that

  • 18:56

    it's him. So you're saying that an artist would make a move like this if

  • 19:00

    they're not hot? I'm saying something from Epic or back there somewhere is presenting our

  • 19:04

    King future in a way that he don't need to be presented. That's what I'm

  • 19:08

    saying. Future is still future at the end of the day. I just don't understand

  • 19:12

    why you get that from this because Lil Uzi is one of the biggest artists.

  • 19:15

    No, he's probably the hottest young kid out. He's probably the hottest artist in the

  • 19:19

    world. Why I was surprised at this drop is because I thought that they would

  • 19:22

    wait until we were able to perform again and hit stages because this would be

  • 19:26

    a lot of performance-based music. That's the only reason why I was surprised. For the

  • 19:29

    kids that grew up simply on just trap shit... Y'all are gonna kill me for

  • 19:33

    saying this and I haven't heard a single song. I'm about to say a hot

  • 19:38

    take - this is there I'm here. They're here little trap. Watch the throne shit.

  • 19:42

    It's a young hottest motherfucker with the legend Let me talk to Roy. Let me

  • 19:46

    not talk to parts Rory. This is day shit. I'm with you I'm not from

  • 19:50

    this so I don't I promise you we getting back to nipples in a second,

  • 19:55

    please Please the way that I can fake titties lactate. I don't know what lactate

  • 19:59

    me. I'm a real nigga. I The fuck is lactate? They don't take lactate to

  • 20:04

    me ever again. Can fake titties produce milk? Can your child breastfeed on fake titties?

  • 20:10

    I believe so. I believe so. Okay. Maybe. I believe so. Rory, for me to

  • 20:16

    have the issue that I've stated in the past with an artist like Fab,

  • 20:21

    And y'all know I love Fab. I hate that you always have to reiterate. You

  • 20:27

    have to. These people know I love them. It's not really for them. It's for

  • 20:32

    the fans. They'd be like, I don't know Fab. I hate when the older niggas

  • 20:38

    seem like They have to do something to reel in the younger audience. When niggas

  • 20:44

    is kings. That's all I'm saying. So if I have that opinion of other people

  • 20:49

    when they do it, I'm not changing it on Future when he does it. Future

  • 20:54

    is a king. He's dominated. He's one of the people this decade has belonged to.

  • 20:59

    Sure it's awesome that him and Uzi did a project together because they both dope.

  • 21:05

    No, it's not awesome that somebody back there Feels like repeatedly future has to do

  • 21:09

    things to reel in a younger audience. I'm not subscribing to that Here's why you

  • 21:14

    move in the goalposts because one I don't think Uzi is ever doing anything that

  • 21:18

    little Uzi I didn't say Uzi, but I didn't say Uzi I said future specifically

  • 21:22

    well respond to what I'm saying You and I are ten years apart, but we

  • 21:26

    both to some degree grew up on J. I Kanye is '04 to '96 with

  • 21:32

    their first debut albums. This is no different for the younger generation. Future is the

  • 21:38

    older head solidified of the trap shit that's popular right now. Uzi is the king

  • 21:44

    of the kids right now. This is the same shit. Just because we don't understand

  • 21:50

    it, don't make it not the same shit. It's literally the same thing. This is

  • 21:55

    when Snoop brought out Lil Bow Wow. I'm joking. Thank God. Every time I think

  • 22:01

    he's joking you serious I'm big mega I guess where you have a point if

  • 22:05

    I'm looking at this in isolation But I'm not like I said, I've been looking

  • 22:10

    at the last few but why brought up the easy point future doing this cuz

  • 22:15

    future and epic and the people that own the music industry Said alright. Well, we

  • 22:20

    need future to be hot. So we're gonna put an album out with Uzi Uzi

  • 22:25

    would tell them to suck dick and Uzi did this because he wanted to have

  • 22:29

    just every move Uzi has ever made is because Uzi wanted to make it if

  • 22:33

    this was some other shit and Uzi was some type of industry puppet I'd be

  • 22:37

    like yeah they would have just put this shit together like this is kind of

  • 22:41

    weird that they did this Uzi not doing this he looks up to future I'm

  • 22:44

    sure because future father the sound that he comes from listen to me don't that's

  • 22:48

    affect me it's a fact though I gotta give you the facts yeah but I'm

  • 22:52

    not talking I'm sure Uzi looks up to future Like, what does that have to

  • 22:57

    do with anything I'm saying? It's the same way Kanye looked up to Hov when

  • 23:02

    I get the opportunity to do an album with somebody that may be a bit

  • 23:07

    older in his time and I'm the hottest thing smoking right now. Listen, and I

  • 23:12

    submit here. Because at that time, Ye was the hottest shit smoking and Hov was

  • 23:17

    Hov, but he was still older. I submit here that I am old, out of

  • 23:22

    the demo, and out of touch. I think that. that if I polled future fans

  • 23:27

    before Hov and R. Kelly did an album together, note what all the fuss was

  • 23:33

    in the streets, hey, they should do an album together. Well, they had a few

  • 23:39

    records together, yeah. Yep, cool. But the buzz in the streets said... Oh, we need

  • 23:45

    an album from them too. Like sometimes the streets do dictate when we need to

  • 23:49

    hear two people together. And contrary to what Rory is saying, I don't believe that

  • 23:53

    if I polled the true future fans, they would have been saying, yeah, we need

  • 23:57

    him and Uzi. Yes, I know that it could be fire. I don't think that

  • 24:02

    Chris Brown fans were saying, yo, you and Yelta, give it to me. Yo, that

  • 24:06

    project was all the way fire. I'm not talking about the result. I'm talking about

  • 24:11

    the culmination of how it came together. Yes, Chris Brown and Young Thug could be

  • 24:15

    fans of each other, but past that, labels got to talk. I would have loved

  • 24:18

    to have been there for the conversation between Atlanta and Epic or Epic and Future

  • 24:22

    or just somebody who ever spawned this idea or had to finish it out. Well,

  • 24:26

    you contradicted yourself in the beginning that we all don't come from this sound and

  • 24:30

    these artists, so we don't really know. But I'll go back to my example of

  • 24:35

    what Corey and I were just talking about before the podcast. I was 14 years

  • 24:40

    old when Kanye West came out. I grew up for real on Kanye. Hov was

  • 24:45

    a little older, but I grew up on Hov sort of. You're a loser. Because

  • 24:49

    you grew up on Kanye? Because he was 14 when Ye came out. So, yes,

  • 24:54

    when the artist I grew up on from 14 years old was able to do

  • 24:59

    an album with the elder statements of when Kanye, Was a kid was popping it

  • 25:03

    was the greatest thing in the world with the person that signed him and the

  • 25:07

    label that he came up on and the person who produced all the boy did

  • 25:11

    it make sense that shit is that shit was dead through futures era what are

  • 25:15

    you talking about QC just just started making that shit cool but it still made

  • 25:19

    sense when Jay and gay announced why sit wrong was like I make sense okay

  • 25:23

    so Joe you said this just the to you doesn't make sense and Rory is

  • 25:27

    saying well it does because Uzi is the offspring of Future. No, but Rory is

  • 25:32

    ignoring. Yeah, but Rory's looking at this in isolation. And I keep saying I'm looking

  • 25:36

    at this in the totality of all the moves that Team Future has done that

  • 25:41

    has made me say, hey, why is this happening? That's what I'm saying. So this

  • 25:46

    is yet another move that makes me say, fam, you don't, fam, not off the

  • 25:50

    Lori shit, not off the two Drake albums and the tour bus. You Future still.

  • 25:55

    Like, you Future still. So you don't want to see him collabing? No! Solo Future

  • 26:00

    Project. Okay. I mean, dating, everything future has done is led up to dating. And

  • 26:05

    we should have an Atlanta arm of this podcast for me to reach out to.

  • 26:11

    To see what the pulse is out there. Because I don't know. Admittedly, I don't

  • 26:16

    know. I'm just telling you how I feel. I didn't even know this shit came

  • 26:21

    out. Yeah. It's out. we'll take it in this week i listened to ransom's album

  • 26:26

    today i didn't go to this this is not the world i live in yeah

  • 26:30

    yeah that was just two of our bigger artists ransom is fire but ransom is

  • 26:35

    always fine You gotta listen to two niggas that stealing all our chicks when they

  • 26:40

    collab together. See what they talking about? See how they thinking? What's that brand? What?

  • 26:45

    What y'all buying them now? Yo. Yeah, you gotta peep game when these two get

  • 26:50

    together. Allegedly, I was talking to a girl on Monday and she was telling me

  • 26:54

    how Uzi gave her Birkin bag advice on what she was wearing. I said, oh,

  • 26:59

    he's Prince. He about to outdress you and take your bitch. Yeah. So who's heard

  • 27:04

    this? I'm terrified of Uzi. I only listened to it one time. I didn't hear

  • 27:09

    anything. But it doesn't sound bad. It's a few joints on there I like. I

  • 27:13

    just, again, because you can't really perform right now, I just didn't expect them to

  • 27:18

    put this type of project out because this is a project that they could tour

  • 27:23

    and they could sell out shows and asses will be shaking. But it sounds good.

  • 27:28

    I'll listen to it again. Does every beat sound the same? Not every beat, no.

  • 27:33

    know did y'all expect JT to have nipples as beautiful as you

  • 27:39

    did now I was a different type of nipple man that's it's

  • 27:44

    just greeting you like in a really warm I should it's like

  • 27:50

    a welcome mat of love I don't know if you guys have

  • 27:55

    been listening this podcast in 2020 I've just been trying to keep

  • 28:01

    us moving I'm trying to say anything to keep us no no I know I

  • 28:06

    know I just would like to just call me a Welcome mat of love off

  • 28:10

    a freestyle. Yeah, but it was a nice name She's got a really nice cleavage

  • 28:15

    thing going on here too. She does and women can appreciate other women's nipples I'm

  • 28:19

    a sir. I'm a circle back when she get 35, you know circle back 24

  • 28:23

    year old shit. She'd be doing tweeting to me a decade Why y'all think I

  • 28:28

    like this nigga? Let's not give you 10 years. You gonna come back? Oh yeah,

  • 28:32

    I'm circling right back to JT. We still love her. Well, free the nipples. She

  • 28:36

    did. It's beautiful. Yeah, we freed JT and then she freed the nipple. Good nip

  • 28:41

    slip is fine. We might as well stay on music. What other music came out?

  • 28:45

    Chains. I wanted to come back for y'all. I wanted to come back to y'all

  • 28:49

    for one of the takes, one of your album takes. Y'all said this album was

  • 28:53

    really, really, really, really, really amazing. I think it's horrible. Which album? Never. Never the

  • 28:57

    case. Oh, no. I thought we were going to. Guess, nigga. Never tell. No, no,

  • 29:02

    don't really guess. Is it R&B? No. No. I know, well, we talked about it

  • 29:06

    before the pod. I didn't talk about anything. All right. I'll ask you off mic.

  • 29:09

    I don't know. Nah. I said it was fire? No, we said it was a

  • 29:13

    good album. Me and you? Yeah. Joe made us sound like we said it was

  • 29:17

    Illmatic or something. It's not. Okay. But it's a solid album. Okay. But anyway. I

  • 29:20

    don't know. Still don't know what y'all talking about, but okay. Yeah. It's fine. So

  • 29:24

    you did your due diligence? You ain't really, you ain't hear what we heard? I

  • 29:28

    did my due diligence and threw my phone across the balcony. Damn. Like that? Get

  • 29:31

    the shit the fuck out of my ear. It was like that? Yes, it was.

  • 29:35

    Oh, man. I got to know. I'm not coming here protecting shit. No. But I'm

  • 29:39

    not saying the name. Oh, yeah. I feel good. Hey, pussy. Exactly. 1,000%. That's why

  • 29:43

    I'm not even engaging in this conversation. What else came out? What else came out?

  • 29:48

    What else came out today? Chains. Chains. So help me God. Rory, I heard an

  • 29:53

    Ariana Grande tune that got me bubbling. Okay, so I didn't realize. Positions? No, quickly.

  • 29:59

    I didn't realize how crazy the Ariana Grande fans were and how crazy the Keto

  • 30:04

    fans are. They jumped us, dude. Yo, the keto diet stands. Like, I don't know

  • 30:08

    what y'all hive is called. The keto hive. Y'all are the meanest people on planet

  • 30:12

    Earth. It's not just fucking meat and cheese, you fucking piece of shit. I'm like,

  • 30:16

    all right. They did say that you did a really poor job of explaining the

  • 30:20

    keto diet to me. Joe, that was the point. I think Rory said all it

  • 30:24

    basically is is meat and cheese. I think that's what he said. He didn't give

  • 30:28

    it in depth. Rory also does not know anything about the keto diet. That's fine.

  • 30:32

    We were shitting on it. Why do they expect us to know about the things

  • 30:36

    that we speak about? Double down on the shit, man. Double down on the shit

  • 30:39

    on it. That's a two-pack of ass diet. Give him your shit. Oh, no, no.

  • 30:43

    It's a fact. It's fucking broke-ass fillets and Parmesan cheese. Whoa. Aggressive. Farts smelling crazy.

  • 30:47

    Y'all are going to C-Town and getting the thin cut of the steak. That's what

  • 30:51

    y'all are eating. And then y'all are getting the fucking government cheese. I know what

  • 30:55

    y'all are doing for keto. Yeah. American cheese. Yeah, y'all are nasty. Your stomachs are

  • 31:00

    disgusting. I like steak. I like steak. Joe, you like any red meat. You just

  • 31:06

    like red meat. Facts. Red meat cereal. What nigga like Steakums? You like TV dinner?

  • 31:11

    Nigga whose mom was on drugs and left you home with your older abusive brother.

  • 31:15

    The fuck are you talking about? Yeah, I was eating Steakums. Irish specialty. My mom

  • 31:20

    was outside. We ate Steakums too, bro. I liked fish sticks when I was a

  • 31:24

    kid. I won't eat them since now. Fish sticks was my go-to on lunch day.

  • 31:28

    Irish people invented Steakums. We went from potato famine to steak them. I knew the

  • 31:33

    vibes when my mom taught me how to jazz up the sardines. I was like,

  • 31:37

    all right. You want me to get used to this shit? She want me to

  • 31:41

    get used to this shit. Like, yeah, nigga, find different ways to make that. Yeah.

  • 31:46

    My mom told me how to jazz up all the hood mills. I make oatmeal

  • 31:51

    better than niggas. Oatmeal, no. Oatmeal, that's a classic. Don't let me get the butter

  • 31:55

    and milk out the fridge. I'm going crazy. I'm going crazy. We did a ramen

  • 32:00

    battle. I was jazzed with the Sazon hot sauce and the crushed pepper, not like

  • 32:05

    the little flakes. I was cranking the shit. Rory want to be a jail baby

  • 32:10

    so bad. that's how you made ramen but yeah he don't want to he don't

  • 32:16

    want to commit the crime though get it get it done get it done get

  • 32:21

    out there hey shoot one of these man hey let me come here yo rory

  • 32:27

    had to go away don't know how long it's gonna be what was the kiss

  • 32:33

    line that always make used to make me laugh ain't got no felonies i'm good

  • 32:38

    with crimes that ever got caught. Nah, when Kiss told us that if he get

  • 32:42

    locked up, you know what I'm saying, or he die, like, take his son to

  • 32:46

    the Gucci store and show him the loafs. Like, don't show him the bullshits. Like,

  • 32:49

    give him some class. That was a classic bar. One day we have to get

  • 32:53

    into, like, the Destiny's Child lines, all of the Jadakiss lines, too. And Destiny's Child?

  • 32:56

    That'll be fun. Oh, we're going to have two hours on cater to you. Because

  • 33:02

    Kiss would say something. Yo, fam, fam, fam. Buddy. Not the place. Buddy. Hey, Park.

  • 33:07

    Get your dude. Get your dude in the window, buddy. Come on, window man. No,

  • 33:12

    when Kiss said, I ain't got a home phone number. I live on the road.

  • 33:17

    Like, totally understandable. Touring act, doing shows. But why in the hood we was like,

  • 33:22

    ooh, I got no number in the crib. By the way, that's how you know

  • 33:26

    Maul got money now. Why, he got a home phone number? Nah, dude just got

  • 33:30

    the drop on Maul. I ain't seen Maul flinch at all. Me? Old Maul would

  • 33:34

    have known what time it was. Because Maul feels safe when he with me. Like,

  • 33:38

    he know how to go. Like, honestly. Don't. no you don't feel safe for you

  • 33:44

    with me i'm not gonna let dude get the drop oh see there you go

  • 33:49

    there you go oh no no i don't want to get to this just yet

  • 33:54

    what other music came out what other music came out and i still don't ever

  • 33:58

    feel safe with joe anymore masego wait i got a whole masego ep in my

  • 34:03

    phone where was you i didn't get off a chatter house man I go crazy

  • 34:09

    when Masego drop. I know, Mo. I know. Don't

  • 34:15

    ask me. Yo, Mo, you taking this thing to

  • 34:20

    the next level since we left Spotify, man. Young

  • 34:26

    Proud Boys calling up, dudes. Wait till the Bronx

  • 34:32

    find out you got Masego's number. Nah, that's hilarious.

  • 34:37

    What, you know, son that play the saxophone? Yeah, Maul's big on the

  • 34:43

    sax. Yo, Sego, what up? It's Maul, man. What's up, man? What's good?

  • 34:49

    Ain't nothing. Yo, you live on the Joe Button Podcast right now, man.

  • 34:55

    Hey! That's good my niggas and white people And white people yeah, they are white

  • 35:00

    now that I think about it, that's a good point I'd be forgetting that shit

  • 35:05

    man mistake. Oh, what's going on? How are you King? I'm chilling man. It's my

  • 35:10

    day right now. It's like my birthday I know buddy. I I didn't know even

  • 35:15

    though you sent me a DM in this project. I didn't know even though you

  • 35:20

    told me Yeah, man, you snuck a project out on us. With Don Toliver.

  • 35:26

    It's literally, it's something slight for real. And you used the word abroad. You said

  • 35:31

    what? You used the word abroad in your title, studying abroad. It's a college thing.

  • 35:37

    Yes, sir. You know, trying to get them, you know, them double entendres. You're studying

  • 35:43

    abroad is what you're saying. That's a font a bar you need to give him

  • 35:48

    his copyright. Wow, that was pretty hard dear. Oh, so this is awesome I'm gonna

  • 35:53

    buy this Masego. Huh? I'm gonna buy it. I'm buying this project. Oh, I might

  • 35:58

    get that in 20 years No, I buy music like I really do it. Oh,

  • 36:03

    well, yeah, you might not get it. Yeah, I understand what you're saying Dan just

  • 36:08

    much more with the t-shirt. I got you Well, why the fuck you son of

  • 36:13

    these niggas then if they paying you in 20 years, I Take your saxophone

  • 36:19

    elsewhere. Yo, don't be... My manager is near me. Okay, let me get out

  • 36:25

    of here. Hey, tell your manager he's doing a shit show job. His days

  • 36:30

    are numbered. You only play 19 instruments and you're not getting paid. Hey, hire

  • 36:36

    me, goddammit. The fuck is he on? He's like, don't let him tell you who

  • 36:41

    he is. I apologize for my friends. Nah, yo, Ma called me Kinky Prince, so

  • 36:44

    I can't be hitting all this. Yeah. Don't let me figure out who I am.

  • 36:47

    Yeah, Masego just got a studio with a bunch of fucking instruments, and he's like,

  • 36:51

    yeah, I play that too. Yeah, just one day I bought this and ordered this

  • 36:54

    off Amazon, played this. I'm like, yo, what's up with you, man? No, that junk

  • 36:58

    is hilarious. I gotta play you the Kinky Prince vibe song I made as soon

  • 37:02

    as you left. Can you send it? Ayo. I got you. Yeah, niggas trying to

  • 37:07

    fuck with something new. You got an EP out? No, no, something unreleased. Oh, unreleased.

  • 37:11

    Yeah, because she's going to try to Shazam it when I got it on and

  • 37:15

    I'm like, ha ha. Yeah. Yeah, you definitely get a different type of chick

  • 37:21

    when you when you drop the Masego on the place Yeah, if

  • 37:27

    they know what a saxophone is and you know, let's say go

  • 37:32

    you in a relationship He's trying me no, no, I'm single so

  • 37:38

    have you been fucking during kovats I He said, do

  • 37:44

    I love black women? Yes. Hey, this guy's good. This guy's good. Hey, maybe

  • 37:50

    your manager ain't too bad. Hey, have you lost any beautiful black women during

  • 37:55

    COVID? Nah, nah, man. Has the roster changed at all, no? Oh, I've just

  • 38:01

    been playing actual basketball because I don't play with these women's hearts. This guy's

  • 38:07

    a king right here. Talk your shit. I see why y'all get along, man.

  • 38:13

    Good dude, man. No, I got training from that Chitty Chat, man. They tried to

  • 38:17

    get me out the way one time. I'm ready now. Oh, you on Chitty Chat?

  • 38:21

    You on Chitty Chat? Oh, no, I follow you, but you'll be speaking. He just

  • 38:25

    be playing sax on Chitty Chat. Me and Joe had a moment up there. I

  • 38:28

    was like, ah, I thought he was winning in there, but they was doing some

  • 38:32

    Benedict Arnold on my man. Yeah, you just got to play the horn. Anytime is

  • 38:36

    your time to speak. That's a really good idea, actually. That'd be hilarious. Hey, Masego,

  • 38:39

    I'm that nigga on the Chitty Chat house. You know that? You know that. I

  • 38:43

    can find a way out. He didn't even ask. Is that the new flex? Yeah,

  • 38:48

    I'm the man in the kitty. No, I've never been the man anywhere, so I

  • 38:54

    got to tell people when I accomplish it. So listen, all right, so you got

  • 39:00

    a new project out. You're fucking. Allegedly. Yo, this is the most uncle vibes I've

  • 39:06

    heard all year. This is the new rollout. That's how you do press. this

  • 39:12

    is how fresco all right we with it mesego when do you think touring will

  • 39:16

    come back i feel like they're gonna try with them little car shows topping next

  • 39:21

    year you're gonna do a car show ain't you no i'm a i can't be

  • 39:25

    on something you're gonna let men honk at you hunk if you're horny oh like

  • 39:30

    the windshield wipers and all that like i can't get oh my god what if

  • 39:34

    they flash their lights high beam thing a high beam you off the stage

  • 39:40

    yeah that's my ego can't handle it it's gonna be like it's gonna be

  • 39:46

    like drumline when them was auditioning they're gonna make you in that sax gadaddle

  • 39:51

    they're gonna make my sego a p1 And if the women like

  • 39:57

    you they put on their exhaust fluid? Yeah, you know the vibe, you

  • 40:03

    know the vibe. You know girls don't have their own cars. No, no,

  • 40:09

    don't group me with this. Follow him. Yo, that was horrible, Rory. I'm crying right

  • 40:14

    now. Root me away from that statement. Chop it up. El Masego's a good guy,

  • 40:18

    man. We didn't mean to call and get you in any trouble. No, we just

  • 40:22

    wanted to congratulate you on the release of the EP, man. I know this is

  • 40:26

    just something, you know, the real project's on the way. Masego, you saw JT's nipples?

  • 40:31

    Hey, yo, what are you talking about? JT from the City Girls had a nip

  • 40:36

    slip. It's out on the internet. Did your manager let you have the internet? Yo,

  • 40:41

    I think, wait a second, what is that? Oh, my pastor just pulled up. Hey,

  • 40:45

    what's up, pastor? My pastor just pulled up. My pastor just, I'm so finished with

  • 40:50

    Masego. Masego, I'm going to check this project out, man. I hope it's good. Me

  • 40:55

    too, man. This is just, you know, an experiment. If it hit, it hit.

  • 41:01

    You might like the last record, though. I think that's your bag. By Felicia? Yeah,

  • 41:05

    that's your pool party Joe with the shirt off. Yeah, right. That sounds like a

  • 41:10

    Joe record. He's got a little sass to it. Joe has definitely sold a Felicia

  • 41:14

    Bible. Pool party Joe never bagged a Felicia. I was more in the Alicia bag.

  • 41:19

    Hotties, baddies season. You tell girls that aren't Felicia, buy Felicia. Because you're sassy. Maybe,

  • 41:23

    that's true. I am sassy. I don't believe Masego ever said bye to a chick.

  • 41:29

    No, no, no. I'm more of a hello guy. Yeah, this guy's too good for

  • 41:33

    me. He's too good. I can't catch him. I can't trap him up. Nah, bro.

  • 41:38

    I'm like 40,000 episodes deep. I'm with ya know, I see those how we get

  • 41:43

    down. All right, let's hang up on this nigga Yo, love you bro, I'm a

  • 41:49

    leaker record damn love I'm gonna hit you labels is a broke love it I

  • 41:55

    know him in real life. Yes my god. You know, you were his big, bro.

  • 42:00

    Oh Oh, I gotta go. I think a woman. Yo, peace, game. We love you.

  • 42:06

    Got you, man. Love y'all. What's your ex? You know what your ex is. Who?

  • 42:11

    The mic is on. Yeah, the mic's on. We're recording. Oh, well, no. Let's have

  • 42:16

    the conversation on the mic. And no. And no. Whoever it is is not my

  • 42:21

    ex. No, don't do that. Don't do and no. Don't do that because you got

  • 42:26

    exes. The escort. I don't know who the ones that the one that's the ones

  • 42:30

    that selling pussy. I'm not claiming. No, but that don't mean no, no, no, you

  • 42:34

    don't have to wait. That's not your choice to the young women out here to

  • 42:38

    make that decision to the young. Then who makes it? Fam, that's your ex. If

  • 42:41

    she decided to sell pussy after you, that's still your ex. No, it's not. Yes,

  • 42:45

    it is. No, it's not. You don't get to make that decision. Still, yes, I

  • 42:49

    do. No, you don't. You think you get to make that decision for real? Listen,

  • 42:53

    unless any of y'all are experienced in this escort game or have an ex that's

  • 42:58

    an escort, I'm not even listening to y'all. And Walt told me he's not because

  • 43:02

    he's clean and pure, purified. No, I don't have a... Well, then I don't know.

  • 43:07

    I don't speak to a lot of girls, but... I have an ex that sells

  • 43:11

    pussy. And to the women out there, because there's women that are shouting us out

  • 43:15

    saying, yo, y'all talk about prostitutes every week, please, like enough. But we're scum. And

  • 43:20

    we're also pro sex workers. True. There you go. See? They be wanting us to

  • 43:25

    shout out, like, to be sensitive to the women that are forced into that lifestyle

  • 43:30

    against their will. And that don't be our conversation. That is a totally separate conversation,

  • 43:35

    and your mind shouldn't go straight there. Of course, we're praying for them, but we're

  • 43:40

    readily fucking the chicks that are selling it to us. Yeah. Well, no. Allegedly.

  • 43:46

    More used to date. Let me get this out of the way with Maul. We're

  • 43:51

    not signed nowhere. We don't have a deal nowhere. Let's get right to it. If

  • 43:57

    your ex is fine and she begins to sell it, I'm touching her. You can

  • 44:03

    buy it. You're buying it. I'm touching her for $40. All right, hold on. And

  • 44:08

    then I'm going home. That's way below the range. And then I'm going home. Not

  • 44:11

    only are you saying that you would fuck your man's ex, you also think she's

  • 44:15

    worth $40. I never said fuck. What did you think about her pride in that?

  • 44:18

    I never said fuck. I never said that. I have too much respect for Moe

  • 44:22

    to think that his ex would be worth $40. But if you're in the business

  • 44:25

    of selling fantasy, I'm going to try to cash in on the fantasy and feel

  • 44:29

    something and go home. You only got $40? Like a nasty old man. I'm not

  • 44:32

    asking to beat. No, but I can't do that. I can't do that with somebody

  • 44:36

    that's my homeboy's ex-girl, though. Even if she is selling that strip or whatever, I

  • 44:39

    just can't. I'm just like, oh, get out of here. Oh, you missed the morals.

  • 44:43

    Okay, I'll take that. Ain't nothing wrong with having morals. Look at Mr. Integrity over

  • 44:46

    here. Yeah, but not my homeboy's ex-girlfriend? Nah, I can't do that. Because I know

  • 44:50

    you in a real, like, we obviously were around each other in a certain way.

  • 44:53

    It was like family. Like, if you my homeboy's ex, we've been around each other

  • 44:56

    in... home settings like that so now that you shaking it off selling it like

  • 45:01

    fair I'm not gonna try to cash in oh I always wanted because it's always

  • 45:06

    wanted to grab this pocket but that's what a really nice to meet you more

  • 45:10

    she's like family my home that you actually called your girl like you think that

  • 45:15

    if I don't yes that's a lady out there but if I am started If

  • 45:20

    she became an escort, you think I would go to this strip club and start

  • 45:23

    feeling all right? I was offended. I would never do that. I could never do

  • 45:27

    that. In fact, I might... I would do everything not to even look her way.

  • 45:30

    Like, yo, get out of here. That's just me though. I might throw a sweatshirt

  • 45:34

    over. There's other girls in there. We got to get you out of here. You

  • 45:37

    don't need to do it. Yeah, there's other girls in there. You know how many

  • 45:41

    sessions he's getting right now? Yeah, I just can't do that. I can't do that.

  • 45:44

    Thanks, guys. That's just me. It's just weird. It's just like, uh. Because to me

  • 45:47

    that says you always want to grab my girls. So have you done this before?

  • 45:51

    See, now that's fucked up. That's why you're a fucked up nigga. That's why a

  • 45:54

    lot of niggas want to punch you in your face. See? See? But I didn't

  • 45:58

    even say no, but you was like oh, yeah, that's what I was about to

  • 46:02

    say. No, I don't fuck with you I never grabbed my own boys girlfriend titties.

  • 46:05

    You do know why I don't fuck with you. Well, I guess I Can't I

  • 46:09

    never did I never grabbed none of my exes girlfriends ass titties man. Oh, all

  • 46:13

    right I see what you're doing you're teetering on that girlfriend word, so I can't

  • 46:16

    say what I'm saying if I see what you're doing not a girl one of

  • 46:20

    my homeboys Girlfriend. Y'all don't hear this guy? Well, no, because he's saying girlfriend, and

  • 46:24

    I see where he draws the line. That's what I said. Girlfriend. If y'all have

  • 46:28

    made it official, if you're official now. What if I really liked her? That's what

  • 46:33

    I'm saying. Oh, then that's a you thing. You know what I'm saying, Sabo? That's

  • 46:37

    so you, my nigga. That's a man. But that wasn't your girl his girlfriend never

  • 46:43

    niggas have brought a loophole man, that's good Mr. Lupo is real

  • 46:48

    nigga shit if it's a girlfriend. I would never yeah, but sometimes

  • 46:54

    a girl you was knocking down for someone come on But what

  • 47:00

    if it's all right? Enemy of progress Oh, yeah. Y'all had to hear your

  • 47:05

    man. You can't be an enemy of progress. Was you in there when he said

  • 47:10

    that? Yeah. Maul is a G. I'm just saying. It was eight ladies up there

  • 47:15

    fighting for his love. They were asking the ladies questions. And Maul just interjected and

  • 47:20

    said, listen, don't be an enemy of progress. That's it. It's not always hating. He

  • 47:25

    was like, wow, this guy is off the gelato. Some people are some haters. That's

  • 47:28

    that wedding cake. Off the gelato. That's that wedding cake bar right there. The only

  • 47:32

    reason why that's funny is because I was about to smoke some wedding gelato when

  • 47:35

    Joe said it. That's why I laughed at him. All right, let me give you

  • 47:39

    a scenario. Listen to this. That's your girl. Okay. But I'm meeting her for the

  • 47:42

    first time. You're bringing her through to the Thanksgiving kickback. Okay. Friendsgiving, they call it.

  • 47:45

    She comes by Friendsgiving. I've never been invited to one of those, but okay, she

  • 47:49

    comes by. I imagine it goes like this. That's the first time I find out

  • 47:52

    that your girl likes us. So now what do I do? Now hold on, hold

  • 47:58

    on. If it's my girlfriend... Because you just dipped into a whole different topic. Hey,

  • 48:03

    hey, hey! Ain't no Spotify, bitch! No, no, no. Ain't no deal! No, listen, I'm

  • 48:08

    a fan of... I'm here to turn it up, E-Rab. I'm a fan of... Your

  • 48:13

    girl likes us now. I always, I always... Niggas know me. I always let the

  • 48:19

    woman choose. I'm never the one that's going to bring a girl around. Because we've

  • 48:23

    had dudes do that. They bring girls and they don't even speak. We say hello

  • 48:26

    just being cordial and they be looking down. I'm like, shorty acting wishy won't even

  • 48:29

    say hi. That's because the homies give them that conversation in a way. Yo, don't

  • 48:32

    talk to none of my homeboys. Don't look them in the eyes. And it's like,

  • 48:35

    I'm not like that. If I bring a girl around because I feel she's cool

  • 48:39

    enough to be around my homies I'm not like that. You start picking up vibes

  • 48:43

    like she I chatting with you a little bit That's when I go to my

  • 48:46

    man like yeah Like that you really ain't the vibe in the mid in the

  • 48:50

    midst of of let your ass gonna go to my room You're gonna be extra

  • 48:54

    funny, huh in the midst of letting her choose you brought her she could choose

  • 48:58

    whatever guy she like Are you gonna be extra funny? Don't lie. Don't lie. Don't

  • 49:01

    lie. Don't lie. I'm always be me. I I'm always be me. I can't. I

  • 49:06

    can't. You're going to be a little better. You I'm always. I'm always trying to

  • 49:10

    be my best. I'm going to always be me. I'm always trying to be my

  • 49:14

    best. Don't be funny around my girl. I just I'm just being me man. That's

  • 49:18

    all you know, you got to make the one that you got an extra gear

  • 49:22

    you go to Joe entered that there was another subject here when you find out

  • 49:26

    shorty you bring like us. She liked the crew. Have fun fellas. You're right. No,

  • 49:30

    y'all are gonna be in the home you get out No, you go home and

  • 49:34

    I will but then you're looking at it like that Roy I'm looking at it

  • 49:38

    like okay now I have to I have to put my shit on because okay,

  • 49:42

    obviously shorty that I brought she's she's I chat she filling the homies, which is

  • 49:46

    fine and but now it's other women in the room. No, I'm Russell Crowe, gladiator.

  • 49:50

    As long as we all play the same game because don't start eye chatting with

  • 49:53

    my friend that I brought through and then you got one in the corner that

  • 49:57

    you don't want nobody even asking if she wants something to drink because dudes play

  • 50:01

    that game too. First of all, they try to talk to all of your friends

  • 50:04

    but they don't want you talking to theirs. I'm going to steal your line. My

  • 50:08

    personal business. If I want to bring the backup plan just in case the other

  • 50:12

    chicks don't find me as funny as y'all I'm gonna keep her right by the

  • 50:16

    bar. But you can't get mad if you see somebody trying to entertain her. Nigga,

  • 50:19

    I'm mad that you stopped. What is Maul talking about? No, you can't play the

  • 50:23

    game like that. You can't try to iChat with his friend and then when somebody

  • 50:27

    try to iChat with your friend be mad. Because if your energy is over here

  • 50:32

    with her, that means you ain't giving your friend the energy she need. If you

  • 50:36

    bring something that's free game, if it's not free game. I'm mad that London got

  • 50:40

    his girl back. But we knew that was just a joke. I'm mad Lamar Odom

  • 50:44

    got his girl back. I'm mad Safari got his girl back.

  • 50:50

    Yo, you sick, man. And I'm joking, by the way. Comedy style. This is all

  • 50:54

    comedy style. Absolutely. We don't treat women like objects. Absolutely. No, but I'm serious. Don't

  • 50:58

    be an enemy of progress. I'm dead serious. That's real shit. Don't be an enemy

  • 51:02

    of progress. Let what's supposed to happen, happen. Don't don't don't MP dad and try

  • 51:06

    to know I hate you think you could deal with a Emirate Polly Emirates life.

  • 51:12

    Huh? Who's that? Is that the plane? His brother's Emery? Yeah, that's that's the plane.

  • 51:17

    Okay, Polly and Polly Emery's Oh two wives. Yeah, polygamy. That's too much. Yeah, but

  • 51:22

    that's the root where he's right. I feel like wherever the aliens are. They just

  • 51:27

    hover above parks crew. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Do you think you could do that more?

  • 51:33

    Explain that to me some more. I don't think I know her wives. Yeah, multiple

  • 51:37

    wives. And they know about each other. So you're managing the... I would imagine that

  • 51:41

    that's stressful having to deal with that many different women because that's different emotions, different

  • 51:45

    personalities. I'm not against it. I don't know if I'm built for it, though. It's

  • 51:49

    a lot of work. At this age, absolutely not. Yeah, just a lot of work,

  • 51:54

    but yeah, no you got to satisfy a woman Physically and emotionally and financially and

  • 51:58

    then there's like four of them. I don't know. I don't do that one as

  • 52:03

    one of them I'm gonna lack in a few areas if you think marriage has

  • 52:08

    to do with handling their emotions and Yeah, two of them. Oh wait, I can't

  • 52:12

    even handle my own wait There's a great conversation to what area do y'all choose

  • 52:17

    to lack in when you meet when you meet the baddies understanding I don't understand

  • 52:22

    shit. I'm like no say that again. Oh, you was I shouldn't have did that.

  • 52:27

    Okay? That's a good Played dumb. Yeah, you get so far playing dumb. That's a

  • 52:33

    good. That's a good. Yeah, and then when you tell them teach me I'm what

  • 52:38

    I'm open to learning how to communicate. I lean heavy into the emotionless bag. I'm

  • 52:43

    learning about myself emotionless. I don't have any emotions. I You can't get that off.

  • 52:48

    Any woman that talks for you for two hours know how emotional you are. I

  • 52:53

    disagree. I really think Joe is a psychopath. I add Drake into this category too.

  • 52:57

    As much as y'all talk about emotions, I don't think y'all really have any. That's

  • 53:02

    how much of a psychopath I think y'all are. Y'all dig so much into the

  • 53:06

    emotion bag, I really think y'all don't have real feelings because if you dug that

  • 53:11

    much into that bag, you would kill yourself. Niggas be having emotions. Yeah, but he

  • 53:16

    might not show. So I have the picture here. Don't swipe right or left. I'm

  • 53:21

    not of the mac and cheese. Drake's mac and cheese with raisins in it. Is

  • 53:25

    it Photoshop and parsley? Isn't it? No, that's the real shit. Oh, man. I just

  • 53:29

    want more to get a peep because he explained it too well last episode and

  • 53:33

    he got me off it. It's not a side salad. No, it's not. It's in

  • 53:37

    there. Oh, you know why though? Tell us. Because he's a certified lover boy. It's

  • 53:42

    like macaroni salad. I was about to say, isn't that macaroni salad? Macaroni salad. It's

  • 53:46

    like macaroni salad. The whole thing I was thinking was baked mac and cheese. That's

  • 53:50

    why I was like hot raisins? Nah. I don't care what kind of macaroni. But

  • 53:54

    that's just like a macaroni salad and they just put... Yeah, I still don't know.

  • 53:58

    So you want raisins in your cold macaroni salad? No, no, no. I don't want

  • 54:02

    raisins in anything other than cereal. And maybe a muffin. But it's good to know

  • 54:06

    that meat, well, then I don't know because that kind of looked like a pot.

  • 54:09

    It's fine. I just wanted to show that picture. We don't have to stay on

  • 54:13

    it. I hope it's not hot. We don't have to stay on it. Raisins and

  • 54:17

    hot cheese? Oh, that's on the stove right now. Yeah. No, it looks like it

  • 54:21

    could be on the center island in the kitchen. Yeah, after the stove. No, I

  • 54:24

    think it's a mixing bowl. I think they just mix it together. Parsley is too.

  • 54:28

    This looks like something Champagne Poppy came up with. Yeah, it looks like macaroni salad

  • 54:31

    without the tuna. I just want to know how rich I got to be to

  • 54:35

    do this. Where your taste buds just evaporate? How much money does that take? Well,

  • 54:39

    that was COVID. Yeah. That just had that happen. Yeah. You don't need money for

  • 54:42

    that. But this is different. Like, when you as rich as Drake, I just think

  • 54:46

    this might be a little different. No, my plate would have went back if that

  • 54:49

    came out on my plate. Yeah. I don't know about your family. You know what?

  • 54:52

    I think y'all got this one wrong. I think you got roaches. Yeah, I don't

  • 54:56

    want raisins. I don't like raisins like that. Somebody put apples in their potato salad

  • 54:59

    one day, and I almost called the police. Apples in the potato salad. Yeah, also

  • 55:02

    a party foul. That sounds pretty white. Were they a white man? Apples and man

  • 55:07

    apple salad at that point apples and mayonnaise is crazy well so suppose go in

  • 55:12

    a coleslaw which has a nice guys It wasn't a whole topic. We just told

  • 55:18

    my nasty uh hors d'oeuvres Yeah, mall if the UFOs come which one of us

  • 55:24

    would you sacrifice to get away save on everybody? Imagine think that that gets it

  • 55:30

    done Satisfied in this whole room Well, somebody that would get the deal done. Somebody

  • 55:35

    that would be able to get you to walk or package deals like a trade.

  • 55:39

    I think I would send you only because they might think you're an alien once

  • 55:43

    you start talking. So you'll throw them off like, you know what I mean? I

  • 55:47

    never thought he would say me to my face if I asked the question. What

  • 55:51

    you mean? I thought he was sugarcoated up. I'm thinking about the negotiation, how it

  • 55:55

    would go. I know you light a cig. Who would do the negotiation? You and

  • 56:00

    the alien. You be like, "Fan, what are y'all doing?" You're not putting nothing up

  • 56:06

    my butt. Joe would ask aliens, "What are y'all doing?" They're not. Joe would definitely

  • 56:10

    ask the aliens, "Yo, what are y'all doing?" If you're not, then send me back.

  • 56:15

    Oh, wait. If you're not going to probe me, call me back. Yeah, fuck you.

  • 56:20

    Alien figure's mad long. This is... We are... Nude your back. Nude your back. You

  • 56:25

    wouldn't know I'm on Mars. I'm fucking... I'm out of here. Fuck, y'all going to

  • 56:30

    judge me? That's comedy style, by the way. Comedy style, comedy style, comedy style, comedy

  • 56:34

    style. Did we discuss 2 Chainz new album coming out? No. Coming out. It came

  • 56:38

    out. It came out. Well, yeah, that it came out. Did we discuss that? We

  • 56:43

    talked about it because we had fun with him at the debate, not debate, at

  • 56:47

    the campaign. And I was like, oh, that's why he performed. He had an album

  • 56:51

    coming. It makes sense now. Do you guys remember the era when all the IG

  • 56:56

    chicks' manager was their roommate? Yeah. Yeah. That's not still a thing. It might still

  • 57:01

    be a test. I think I'm still the test I missed that I missed that

  • 57:05

    where did they go? I'm just stuck following the Elizabeth chick like and everything now

  • 57:09

    the one the one that made it out On the gram another day, isn't she

  • 57:14

    one of the original test? Okay, look we big enough the first escort. Yeah, he

  • 57:18

    was the original I Yeah, it's always good to find original. You know that. The

  • 57:22

    original anything. Give me the original. If I'm paying for some pussy, at least have

  • 57:26

    some furniture in the house. I swear we was talking about 2 Chainz albums. We

  • 57:30

    were. Yeah, but, you know. Mo, you was with me when we went to Griffin,

  • 57:34

    right? And we seen them up there? Two? No, the Taz Angels. Yeah? Yeah. Broke

  • 57:38

    my heart. Yeah, man. Broke my heart. They didn't have furniture there either? Huh? They

  • 57:43

    didn't have furniture there either? At Griffin? No, there was furniture. There was too much

  • 57:47

    furniture. I'm not sure if they made them get rid of it in their section

  • 57:52

    just to... Keep it on brand. On brand. They looked exactly like you would expect

  • 57:57

    13-year-olds to look in a New York club. Oh, God. That's how they looked. They

  • 58:01

    were young. Yeah. And I think that was sex trafficking. Ta-da! Like, jokes aside, I

  • 58:06

    hope they're all doing okay. Yeah, for real. Taz's Angels. Got

  • 58:11

    it. Got it. I agree with that. 2 Chainz, 2 Chainz, listen. I have not

  • 58:17

    heard this project. Nor about I have not as as well I did skim through

  • 58:22

    but I can't fairly assess any Def Jam act that comes out on Def Jam

  • 58:26

    right now For reasons that I've said a million times in this podcast man. It's

  • 58:30

    like it's like a star athlete having a different coach every year Like you need

  • 58:34

    some type of consistent mind in there to kind of get it together And I

  • 58:38

    just don't feel like that's been happening over there. I don't need to get into

  • 58:42

    it Well, actually we can get into it because that's why Jeezy just got this

  • 58:46

    position, right? Jeezy has a new position. Screen man, put that on the screen for

  • 58:51

    me, please. Jeezy is now the senior consultant to the senior advisor or some shit

  • 58:55

    going on, but it can't be bad, whatever it is. I don't know what the

  • 58:59

    job title entails, but it can't be bad with what's going on over there. I

  • 59:04

    mean, it sounds like at least they have someone from the culture and artists to

  • 59:08

    be in some type of executive position, so I like it. Jeezy Inc.'s new Def

  • 59:12

    Jam deal. Why can't I say deal? will serve as senior advisor to label chairman.

  • 59:17

    Who the fuck is the label chairman? That's a good question. Let's hear it. Jeezy

  • 59:22

    isn't leaving Def Jam anytime soon. Not only has he signed a new deal with

  • 59:27

    the label, but he'll serve as a senior advisor to the interim chairman and CEO

  • 59:32

    Jeff Harlston, Billboard reports. It's an honor to return to the label I've called home

  • 59:37

    for 15 years, not only as an artist, but as an executive, Jeezy tells Billboard.

  • 59:43

    I spent most of my career learning from trial and error. I am happy to

  • 59:47

    say that I am back on the team that helped me build my legacy from

  • 59:51

    the streets to the boardroom. And nothing makes me more fulfilled than being in a

  • 59:55

    position to help guide and add value to the next generation. I subscribe to all

  • 59:59

    of that wholeheartedly. And I do hope that Jeezy does a phenomenal job over there

  • 1:00:04

    with whatever the job is. I'm sure he will. He's had executive positions before, right?

  • 1:00:08

    Yeah. A&R or something. At Atlantic, he was an A&R for a long time. You're

  • 1:00:12

    not sure about shit. Stop it. Stop this cap. Jeezy could be all the way

  • 1:00:16

    capable. But we don't know the restraints he'll have to fight in there. Sure. We

  • 1:00:20

    don't know how he will be enabled or empowered in there. We don't know anything.

  • 1:00:25

    That's true. So while he's capable, let's see what they do in there. I mean,

  • 1:00:29

    you've got to be skeptical with Def Jam because of their recent moves. But I'm

  • 1:00:33

    just saying that he has been in positions. He knows how that kind of culture

  • 1:00:37

    works, I guess. So I'm sure that regardless of what they put in front of

  • 1:00:42

    him, he'll be able to navigate around. Got it. Got it. Congratulations to Jeezy and

  • 1:00:46

    congratulations to all the acts on Def Jam. I know I was I was really

  • 1:00:50

    hopeful when I learned that Hove would be coming to Def Jam because it's like,

  • 1:00:54

    all right, this is an artist now. An artist will understand some of the artist

  • 1:00:58

    shit that goes on. It won't be so president artist relationship. So I'm sure some

  • 1:01:02

    of the artists in there now feel that same way about this Jeezy acquisition. Congratulations

  • 1:01:06

    to everybody involved. Um, and I will go listen to this 2 Chainz project

  • 1:01:12

    to see what's going on. I'm definitely listening to it because his last album was

  • 1:01:18

    dope. Alright, brand new Goody Mob, brand new Goody Mob album survival kit. We have

  • 1:01:24

    a 3000 feature. We got a Chuck D feature. Big boy. We got a big

  • 1:01:30

    boy feature. And we have 16 tracks. I'm excited about this as well. Yeah, me

  • 1:01:35

    too. I didn't even know that came out until Rory said something about it. I

  • 1:01:39

    hate the way music is put out now, bro. Great music. Yeah. You never know

  • 1:01:43

    all the new music. It's like, how do you even find this shit? I mean,

  • 1:01:47

    I follow Organized Confusion. I knew they had an album coming. but you didn't know

  • 1:01:51

    i didn't know i mean uh organized noise uh but i didn't know you gotta

  • 1:01:55

    search for this yeah how how algorithm listen i go to the algorithms work you

  • 1:02:00

    really have to browse section new albums it'd be a bunch of see all yeah

  • 1:02:04

    scroll and until somebody tells me about something that i missed that's how i just

  • 1:02:09

    find albums well because it's like uh it's like payola to get the placement in

  • 1:02:13

    the new releases segment section of any of the dsps so people that are dope

  • 1:02:17

    and established and great and successful like goodie mob might not show up there because

  • 1:02:22

    they're not on a label that paid the payola which is what that's crazy but

  • 1:02:26

    good you know what let me get that out right now yeah had i known

  • 1:02:31

    this was out i would have just bought it yeah like that's who they are

  • 1:02:35

    for me yeah legends i think organized noise did it too because i saw him

  • 1:02:40

    posting it so makes even more sense i would hope so but I did hear

  • 1:02:44

    the three stacks feature. He went crazy, but... Yeah. Water's wet. Right. Sky's blue. Right.

  • 1:02:49

    Yeah, but they chose an interesting beat for him. It was a little more bouncy.

  • 1:02:54

    Yeah. this era 3000 beat. I feel like anybody who is in search of 3000

  • 1:02:58

    for a feature tries to jam him up today with a different type of beat.

  • 1:03:02

    I do. I firmly believe that. I don't even think he's listening to it unless

  • 1:03:06

    it's something he's never heard. I've seen a few episodes of that one already. It's

  • 1:03:09

    also a little different with them because they grew up together, you know what I'm

  • 1:03:13

    saying, or came up together at least professionally, so... They want to throw some shit

  • 1:03:18

    like, yo, let's do some shit like this. We never did some shit like this

  • 1:03:22

    before, maybe. Whatever. I feel like even so with the people you grew up with,

  • 1:03:26

    that you could easily say, you have done this 45,000 times. Give me something that

  • 1:03:30

    we've never done ever. Yeah, exactly. Well, even this song, I guess, maybe I'm used

  • 1:03:35

    to Goody Mob at this tempo. I'm not used to hearing 3,000 at that tempo.

  • 1:03:39

    Okay. Wait, what? It didn't

  • 1:03:44

    jam him up, by the way.

  • 1:03:50

    I'm just, I'm just listening. He

  • 1:03:56

    floated. He floated. Yeah, we should

  • 1:04:02

    play it. We should play it.

  • 1:04:08

    We should play it. We should

  • 1:04:13

    play it. All right, I'm gonna

  • 1:04:19

    play it. It's three stack verse

  • 1:04:25

    coming up. Talk about it. She

  • 1:04:31

    probably needed a father. Yo, turn

  • 1:04:37

    this off. Somebody pull up Walk

  • 1:04:42

    It Out remix right now. I

  • 1:04:48

    got you. Pull it up and give right to Three Stacks.

  • 1:04:54

    I want to honor him. I want to honor what he

  • 1:04:59

    did to them boys. I'm always here for some Three Stacks

  • 1:05:05

    appreciation. That was a murder. Not that. No, that was a

  • 1:05:11

    murder too. I'm never going to say that about Goody Mob.

  • 1:05:16

    Oh, no doubt. When this came out, if he was there...

  • 1:05:22

    This is a murder. Let me find out. This might be

  • 1:05:27

    his pocket. He has literally every pocket. No, this is

  • 1:05:33

    his pocket from post-OutKast. A lot of lo-fi from Rory.

  • 1:05:39

    YouTube guy. This was lo-fi when it came out. I

  • 1:05:45

    thought he had YouTube premiums. You wasn't outside when this

  • 1:05:51

    came out. It was only lo-fi. Hey, that's my shit.

  • 1:05:57

    All right, now turn this off. Turn this off. Turn

  • 1:06:03

    this off. We can't keep listening to this. He can

  • 1:06:09

    rap on anything. Even look

  • 1:06:15

    at the Frank Ocean

  • 1:06:19

    little snippet thing. He

  • 1:06:24

    killed that. I don't

  • 1:06:29

    even know what that

  • 1:06:34

    pocket was. Oh, no,

  • 1:06:39

    he smoked that. Well,

  • 1:06:44

    it wasn't even really

  • 1:06:49

    a pocket. He was

  • 1:06:54

    just rapping. I like

  • 1:06:59

    the Nas Kanye playing

  • 1:07:04

    on speed and beat

  • 1:07:09

    up all the way,

  • 1:07:14

    but still, that failed.

  • 1:07:19

    Sorry, YouTube. I'll just

  • 1:07:24

    talk since we're just

  • 1:07:29

    playing music now. Yeah,

  • 1:07:33

    sorry. Listen, man. You can't name five rappers better than

  • 1:07:39

    that. Andre might be the best, even though maybe he doesn't have the solo discography

  • 1:07:43

    or whatever, he might be the best person to actually rap ever. I know what

  • 1:07:47

    you mean. You know what I'm saying? Like, you can't... No one can rap like

  • 1:07:51

    that. He checks off every box in a verse. Yeah. If you want to do

  • 1:07:55

    the... Regardless of the bop or the beat. He just checks off everything in a

  • 1:07:59

    verse. I wish we had our Atlanta arm here to see if they agree. Yeah.

  • 1:08:03

    Hell yeah, shout out to Fuck Yeah. That was it? That's our land arm? Yeah,

  • 1:08:08

    yeah, yeah. They're going to shoot this nigga. What else came out? Anything that we

  • 1:08:13

    have to get to? Who mentioned Ransom and Nicholas Craven? Come on, Rory. Did Dwight's

  • 1:08:18

    come out? Droog, your old Droog, my guy from Brooklyn. He's white. The whites came

  • 1:08:23

    out with a single. I don't think his album dropped. It was just a pre-order.

  • 1:08:27

    No, it was just a single. Yeah. Single with Black Thoughters on there. Some other

  • 1:08:32

    people, I apologize. I should have came more prepared. Droog dropped single. My guy Raheem

  • 1:08:36

    put out a two-pack. Nicolay from Foreign Exchange with Fonte put some shit out. Jack

  • 1:08:41

    Freeman dropped the EP. Jack Freeman definitely dropped the EP. Phony People put out a

  • 1:08:45

    song with Joey Badass. Masego, obviously EP we were talking

  • 1:08:51

    about Kodak Block Chopped something Yeah, Kodak Is it album or EP? I'm not sure

  • 1:08:56

    what it is I guess album, it's 11 songs 11.11 put out a double disc

  • 1:09:02

    I'll have to actually get into that A double stream? Give a whole review of

  • 1:09:08

    it But yeah, my guy 11.11 put something out No, some music came out

  • 1:09:15

    May I salam Remy put on a slow Remy shiz dope. It's really dope. All

  • 1:09:20

    right, you guys sorry Was the more is the more to drop DeVito put out

  • 1:09:25

    album I fuck with DeVito, you know some some shit came out Yeah, it just

  • 1:09:30

    came out when we only had two hours because we recorded early today. Yeah, and

  • 1:09:35

    we have and we have a Meg the stallion debut coming our way A second

  • 1:09:40

    debut. Third debut. Whatever it is. I'm still hyped about it. This is Meg Thee

  • 1:09:45

    Stallion's fifth debut. Yeah. It's alright though. Third, fourth, something like that. The game is

  • 1:09:49

    the game. I want to say why do they keep doing this, but why wouldn't

  • 1:09:53

    they do it? Why wouldn't they say every project is the debut and have you

  • 1:09:58

    idiots run out there? Until it works. But she's not successful.

  • 1:10:04

    Meg says, "Hotties, I first want to thank you for riding with me,

  • 1:10:09

    growing with me, and staying down with me since my first mixtape, Rich

  • 1:10:15

    Ratchet. Through this rough-ass year, we've all been having, I felt like we

  • 1:10:21

    could use a little bit of good news. So with that being said,

  • 1:10:26

    my official album, Good News, It's dropping November 20th.

  • 1:10:32

    Pre-order will be available tonight. Good news. I'm leaving Earth one day. Why? I just

  • 1:10:38

    said. Why? Because Meg's put out her album on the 20th of November. Next week.

  • 1:10:43

    I didn't like the good news wordplay. Why? I felt like we could all use

  • 1:10:49

    some good news. I like it. So here it is. I like it. Good news.

  • 1:10:54

    Positivity. Horoscope section joda we're

  • 1:11:00

    crazy horoscope section November 20th

  • 1:11:06

    good news is coming to

  • 1:11:12

    your newsstand if I'm depressed

  • 1:11:17

    I You got the nerve to say this is gonna change my gear.

  • 1:11:23

    No, she just said it's just a little I know I know I'm fucking around

  • 1:11:29

    just a little bit. Yeah, no, I'm cool with the newspaper shit. Whatever. Shout out

  • 1:11:35

    to Kev being exec of the year. Kev. You put it together? See, there you

  • 1:11:40

    go. Newspaper good news. Wow, it took you that long to get that? He was

  • 1:11:46

    eating and didn't get it. She's holding a newspaper. Good news. It's

  • 1:11:52

    all newspapers. And it says good news as a headline. And then

  • 1:11:58

    she's holding the newspaper. Joe is an idiot. That nigga's stupid, man.

  • 1:12:03

    I didn't see it. The newspaper's been saying bad stuff. So now

  • 1:12:09

    it's... She flipped it. That's it. Yeah. You see, she's done through this rough-ass year.

  • 1:12:15

    We've all been having this rough-ass year, so see? Nah, I understand now. She got

  • 1:12:20

    some good news coming on. That's it. November 20th. Good news. Good news. Well, yeah.

  • 1:12:25

    I like the newspaper bodysuit. I thought it was a nice look. I was serious.

  • 1:12:31

    Shout out to Kev, Kevin Lyles, executive of the year for Billboard. Yeah, we love

  • 1:12:36

    Kev. Shout out to Kev. Shout out to LVRN, Justice, friend of the show, my

  • 1:12:41

    brother. What the hell do they have to do with this? Shout out to Kev.

  • 1:12:46

    She's on LVRN? No, I'm just shouting out all the people that got the billboards.

  • 1:12:51

    He's just shouting out niggas he knows at labels. No, it's the Billboard shit. kev

  • 1:12:56

    was kev runs meg i was saying shout out to kevin the billboard exec of

  • 1:13:01

    the year and i'm saying off that i moved on from meg's good news and

  • 1:13:06

    i was bringing more good news that our brothers lvrn which is the most well

  • 1:13:11

    deserved i'm so happy they get in that press definitely uh shout out to lvrn

  • 1:13:16

    for getting billboard execs of the year and all that amazing all friends of the

  • 1:13:21

    show yeah Respect to all. No, it's fine. When Joe comes back here and complains

  • 1:13:25

    why they're hiring shitty people at labels, I don't want to hear a fucking thing.

  • 1:13:29

    That's all. No, I love the LBR and niggas too. Don't do that to me.

  • 1:13:33

    I'm just laughing. So we need to big up the people that get put in

  • 1:13:37

    position. I know, but I can still. I was fully right. I thought you were

  • 1:13:41

    just rattling off names. No, I can still laugh at him saying I was so

  • 1:13:44

    happy when they received that press. Yeah, I was. So now I'm picturing Rory at

  • 1:13:48

    home getting the news that they received the press. And I'm picturing him happy. That's

  • 1:13:52

    all I'm doing. Okay. All right. What did you do? What did you do? Yeah,

  • 1:13:56

    I might have given him one of those. I'm happy for those guys too, man.

  • 1:13:59

    I'm happy for Justice. No, I think we're in one of those times where those

  • 1:14:03

    type of people are extremely important to be in those positions. So I want to...

  • 1:14:07

    make sure we know that people like

  • 1:14:12

    Tuma people like justice are talked about

  • 1:14:18

    when it comes to these bullshit miss

  • 1:14:23

    oh there's some more signers who else

  • 1:14:28

    Larry Jackson love what you doing out

  • 1:14:34

    Tommy - Loud Records, what up? - Steve Ripken, what up? - Y'all

  • 1:14:40

    are horrible, man. Who else made that list? The Billboard list. I think that's hilarious.

  • 1:14:43

    Charlamagne made that list. Who else was on that list? - Oh, did he? Oh,

  • 1:14:47

    shout out to Charlamagne, then. - Shout out to Biggs. - My homegirl Raina was

  • 1:14:51

    on there. Biggs was on there, too. - Oh, you got some Biggs, too. -

  • 1:14:55

    Shout out to Circle of Success Management. Shout out to St. John, Hugh G. Yeah,

  • 1:15:00

    no, I'm glad people got the shine they deserve. It made me feel better about

  • 1:15:04

    the music industry for the certain people that got highlighted on this shit. I don't

  • 1:15:09

    care how many records St. John's sell, all the baddies listen to his shit, so

  • 1:15:14

    I'm listening. Sometimes record sales don't tell it all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to

  • 1:15:19

    go a little further. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the intangibles, it's not on the stat

  • 1:15:24

    sheet. What else? Trump won Alaska. man well you got no i got something

  • 1:15:30

    else that's important yeah let me see all legal votes oh so they fired your

  • 1:15:35

    man lubin tubing damn we got to fire it yeah no they they they fired

  • 1:15:41

    lubin tubing i saw that did you let me read what what lubin tubing said

  • 1:15:47

    on his twitter account oh he clapped back no no no no they clapped back

  • 1:15:52

    yeah yeah it was different he said yo he said I was fired today

  • 1:15:58

    by the New Yorker after 27 years as a staff writer. That's a bad

  • 1:16:04

    choice of words. I will always love the magazine, will miss my colleagues, and

  • 1:16:10

    look forward to reading their work. Right? And then somebody else said, and this

  • 1:16:16

    is Kate Kelly that said this. I don't know if Kate Kelly works with

  • 1:16:22

    him. I'm assuming she did. Kay Kelly retweeted

  • 1:16:28

    that and said, Whoa, whoa, whoa,

  • 1:16:33

    whoa, whoa. No, no, no, wait,

  • 1:16:38

    no, no. It gets way wilder,

  • 1:16:44

    man. What? It gets way crazy.

  • 1:16:49

    It needs demands. She then said,

  • 1:16:55

    Once his impregnated coworker refused to get an abortion, he offered to pay to have

  • 1:17:00

    her inseminated by another sperm donor. She declined this generous offer and had his baby.

  • 1:17:06

    Then Toobin refused to pay child support until court ordered. Sounds like a real dirtbag.

  • 1:17:12

    Who runs around begging to fist somebody? You're not tough to me. You're not the

  • 1:17:18

    measure stick of what street niggas listen to. Yeah, you gotta go, buddy. Yeah, get

  • 1:17:23

    these nasty fucks out the way. I can't believe he still have a job anyway.

  • 1:17:29

    I was going to say, how do we even get to masturbating on Zoom? Because

  • 1:17:34

    that's pretty light compared to this other shit. Yeah, that sounds like a mistake. He

  • 1:17:38

    was just trying to, you know, do his own thing by himself. But like demanding

  • 1:17:43

    you to fist a coworker? That's insanity. No, suggesting that someone else... put cum in

  • 1:17:49

    you so that I don't have to have my cum in you is crazy. That's

  • 1:17:54

    true. I didn't even know you could do that. Let the cum battle it out

  • 1:17:59

    in there? Parks, what's wrong with you? Let the cum battle it out in there.

  • 1:18:04

    Speaking of, did you guys see Lil Nas X kissing himself on the artwork to

  • 1:18:09

    his new music? I didn't. Don't say nothing because that's my guy. No doubt. I

  • 1:18:14

    was trying to understand the transition. You said speaking of which... He's kissing himself.

  • 1:18:20

    So he's battling it out. Park said to come fighting each other. Joe made

  • 1:18:26

    the connection. Don't do that. Why do you do that? I'm a dot connector.

  • 1:18:32

    Yeah. Yeah. You connected dots. yo i see some of you industry running around calling

  • 1:18:37

    yourselves dot connectors i see it sick i see what the new 2021 wave is

  • 1:18:42

    that's the new career i'm gonna burst in that room and tell these artists you

  • 1:18:47

    don't connect dots yeah not a dot connector oh wait you know what else i

  • 1:18:51

    heard oh what is it um um you ready i'm ready you've heard of an

  • 1:18:56

    influencer right sure Now, there's micro-influencers. Have you heard that? I just heard this three

  • 1:19:01

    days ago. I'm not joking. Is that just for like... Have you heard this, Rory?

  • 1:19:06

    Is that just for like socks? See, E-Rabbits heard it. Honestly, have you never heard

  • 1:19:11

    this? I'm aware of what it is. It's just lesser money because you have lesser

  • 1:19:15

    followers. But I'm here to make the joke. So they just influence socks, bracelets, belts.

  • 1:19:20

    They don't do the whole t-shirt or sneakers. Oh, just the accessories. Yeah. Hey, can

  • 1:19:24

    you move that fucking pickup truck? Yo, a micro-influencer. Someone who influences at

  • 1:19:30

    a micro level. You influence five people, and you're a micro-influencer. And

  • 1:19:36

    that's what these dudes is running around saying. Yeah. Well, no, I've

  • 1:19:42

    never heard anyone... explain themselves as a micro influencer. I've seen it in decks where

  • 1:19:48

    it's like, all right, we're going to target these people because they have 1500 followers

  • 1:19:53

    and we know we'll give them 10 bucks and maybe a free t-shirt. I've never

  • 1:19:57

    heard anyone walk around and say, hello, my name is Jared and I'm a micro

  • 1:20:02

    influencer. I've never heard that before. I'm not quite that successful yet. Is that what's

  • 1:20:07

    happening on the chatty chatty? The chatty house. The chatty house. They chatting

  • 1:20:12

    over there. The chatty. I also don't want it. I don't want it.

  • 1:20:18

    Mine? Yeah. Dot connector. That's a good question. Let me see what it

  • 1:20:24

    says. I don't really put thought into the bio. Hard-nosed chat? It says

  • 1:20:29

    the Joe Budden Network. Oh, all right. And I'm Joe Budden. Yeah. See?

  • 1:20:35

    And I'm Joe Budden. Hi, I'm Joe Budden. Welcome to my network. I'm

  • 1:20:41

    him. I don't like... Do you think you're a Maxo influencer? Tell me what that

  • 1:20:46

    is. See, I don't want you to joke because these titles exist. So explain it

  • 1:20:51

    to me. I was joking, but yes, you would be on a top tier influencer.

  • 1:20:55

    But what did you say? A macro? I said Maxo. I just made that up.

  • 1:20:59

    Shut up. I also don't want to hear no more about you artists and your

  • 1:21:04

    part. I don't want to hear the word partnership from y'all again. I don't. And

  • 1:21:09

    I hate to be the guy to break it to you, but... You're signed. Yeah,

  • 1:21:14

    that's not what it means, what you're doing. You don't have a partnership anywhere. You

  • 1:21:18

    have a record deal. That's not true. Tell me. You can have a partnership now.

  • 1:21:23

    All right, Rory. I'm just telling you... All right, I'm not triggering you. I don't

  • 1:21:28

    mean to trigger you. You have a partnership. Yes. That was the end, nigga. I

  • 1:21:32

    know. I don't know why. I stopped talking. That was it. That was a bunch.

  • 1:21:37

    Yo, why would he keep trying to fuck with me on this podcast? But I

  • 1:21:40

    don't want to smoke. Yeah, you be fucking with him. No, I don't want no

  • 1:21:43

    beer. I thought that was your hook on the Goody Mob album, though. That was

  • 1:21:46

    my hook they stole. CeeLo got to see me. Let me see. What else is

  • 1:21:49

    out there? Let's see. PS5. I didn't buy one yet. Danny lays fire. You're not

  • 1:21:53

    getting a PS5 No, I'm gonna get one from our for Ethan Anthony. Oh, yeah,

  • 1:21:57

    I like for the kids. I'm not getting guys for me I'm not playing these

  • 1:22:00

    fucking guys about to say what type of chicks are you inviting? Oh, let's see

  • 1:22:04

    We have another one. Fortunately, we have another loss of life to report and I'm

  • 1:22:08

    sick of this I don't need to tell you all that cuz I told y'all

  • 1:22:12

    that last week but rapper mole 3 Has transitioned. He died after being

  • 1:22:18

    shot in broad daylight on the I-35 in Dallas. And I am reading this from

  • 1:22:23

    CNN, and it says the Dallas Police Department is investigating the homicide of 28. See,

  • 1:22:29

    that's where my stomach turns. Every fucking time I read the age, that is where

  • 1:22:35

    my stomach turns. 28? Yeah. I remember what I was doing at 28. It wasn't

  • 1:22:41

    really value in life, but still it was young. Mm-hmm. Vaughn

  • 1:22:46

    was what, 25? 26. 26? 28-year-old Melvin A. Noble, also known as

  • 1:22:52

    Rapper Moe 3. Officers responded to a shooting on Wednesday afternoon on

  • 1:22:58

    I-35 in Dallas. The suspect, described by police as an adult black

  • 1:23:03

    male. That's really helpful, police. uh got out of his car and approached noble while

  • 1:23:09

    he was sitting in a car that's also horrific to me that's horrifying one of

  • 1:23:13

    my worst fears to to get approached that way while i'm seated in a vehicle

  • 1:23:17

    noble exited the vehicle and began running south on the freeway while the suspect chased

  • 1:23:21

    him oh see he was able to get out the vehicle i read this story

  • 1:23:26

    it was troublesome to me you're on the freeway you see a nigga he got

  • 1:23:30

    the drop when you get out the car you run and you're murdered Suspect chased

  • 1:23:35

    him and fired multiple rounds at him. According to the police, Noble was struck multiple

  • 1:23:41

    times before the suspect fled in a dark colored sedan. Noble was transported to a

  • 1:23:47

    local hospital where he died of his injuries. And I really hope that this spree

  • 1:23:53

    of rappers being murdered comes to an end sometime soon. I wasn't so familiar with

  • 1:23:59

    this gentleman, but it doesn't matter. And when we were in, I think when we

  • 1:24:05

    were in Dallas, Dallas, A few dudes was telling me about him. No, niggas told

  • 1:24:10

    me about him too. Yeah, they told me about him. Like, he was the guy

  • 1:24:14

    that a lot of people are... And apparently he was pretty big out there. Like,

  • 1:24:18

    a few of my Dallas homies are seriously affected by this. Yeah, yeah. It's a

  • 1:24:22

    big loss for them. Yeah, rest in peace. Rest in peace. And I'm seriously affected.

  • 1:24:27

    Like, we just gonna keep getting fucking killed in the broad daylight? It's traumatic, man.

  • 1:24:31

    Yeah. On a highway? Yeah. If that's where it's at now, I mean, I don't...

  • 1:24:35

    You know, it's... We've never seen it this bad. But you know what

  • 1:24:41

    I think? Damn, Ghazi. Like Empire again. Yeah. That hurts. Yeah. That hurts. That's heavy

  • 1:24:47

    loss to have to deal with. Back to back that way. Actually, the next paragraph

  • 1:24:53

    is about that. Let me read that. We share this horrible loss with Mothri's family.

  • 1:24:59

    This is not the way I

  • 1:25:05

    want these people's albums to sell.

  • 1:25:10

    It's not. I'm not certain if

  • 1:25:16

    this gentleman had children, but it

  • 1:25:22

    doesn't even matter. This is crazy.

  • 1:25:28

    It's unfortunate. Rest in peace.

  • 1:25:33

    Definitely is unfortunate. Rest in peace. Rest in peace

  • 1:25:39

    to him, King Bon, everybody's families included, children, nephews,

  • 1:25:45

    nieces, mothers, fathers, aunts, uncles, grandparents. Friends, loved ones,

  • 1:25:50

    fans, everyone. Everybody that has to mourn this. We

  • 1:25:56

    got one more month left of 2020. I'm hoping

  • 1:26:01

    we can ease out of this bitch peacefully and

  • 1:26:07

    gracefully without her taking any more of us away

  • 1:26:12

    from us. I am. Again, prayers and condolences

  • 1:26:18

    to not only Mo3, but King Von, their family, friends, loved ones, loved

  • 1:26:24

    ones of their family and friends. Everybody's affected by this. And if you

  • 1:26:29

    are an aspiring artist or artist, please be careful and safe in how

  • 1:26:35

    you navigate out there, how you maneuver. Right. Please watch your surroundings at

  • 1:26:40

    all times. I feel like I should have some words to... I don't

  • 1:26:46

    have them, though. I don't. I don't. It's a dangerous game

  • 1:26:52

    we in and we all got to be cognizant at all

  • 1:26:58

    times, unfortunately, especially as black men, as black men out here.

  • 1:27:04

    Really important. Hey, screen man, pull up. Let me see if

  • 1:27:09

    Mo3 had kids. I certainly hope not. I believe he did.

  • 1:27:15

    Three kids. Three young kids. Oh, my God, man. Three young

  • 1:27:21

    kids. Two beautiful, two beautiful daughters. And a son that's a

  • 1:27:27

    spitting image of him. Beautiful baby boy. Damn it.

  • 1:27:43

    Rest in peace, Mo3. Rest in peace,

  • 1:27:48

    everybody that we might have lost this

  • 1:27:53

    year. Let's celebrate life while we have

  • 1:27:59

    it. It's important. Real shit. I'm letting

  • 1:28:04

    it rock because I don't know what

  • 1:28:09

    to come back in with. I got

  • 1:28:14

    to regroup. I got to regather myself.

  • 1:28:20

    Let's get into our guest. Yeah, let's

  • 1:28:25

    bring our guest in. Change the energy. No, no,

  • 1:28:31

    no, no, no, Rory. You shut up. It is not guest time. Me and

  • 1:28:36

    Maul and Parks and Corey have been trying to talk about the undoing for

  • 1:28:42

    weeks. And I'm on the edge of my seat. Now, you don't watch the

  • 1:28:48

    show. i wasn't even aware of it oh oh yeah we get hit come on

  • 1:28:53

    rory we've been talking about it for weeks on episode three yeah yeah three weeks

  • 1:28:58

    three weeks actually no i started watching i'm on trial four That's a good show,

  • 1:29:03

    though. Well, good. Yeah, but no, no, no. Rory had no business finishing Trial 4

  • 1:29:07

    before even starting on doing. Yeah. That just came out on Netflix. Documentary on Netflix.

  • 1:29:11

    I don't be watching much on Netflix anymore. Because Netflix don't push it out no

  • 1:29:15

    more. But they drop sneaky like docs and shit like that. I tried to watch

  • 1:29:19

    that Queens Gambit shit, but I'm not all the way there yet. Netflix is paying

  • 1:29:23

    bottom dollar for the hottest British film and just putting subtitles on. It's pissing me

  • 1:29:27

    off. Rogue City on Netflix was good, though. Yeah? I'm not hyped for that one.

  • 1:29:32

    I think I saw Rogue City. Rogue City was good. I think I saw Rogue

  • 1:29:36

    City. The Undoing, Rory, comes on HBO. This is not an ad, but it can

  • 1:29:41

    be if you just hit us, huh? It comes on Sunday nights at 9 p.m.

  • 1:29:46

    on HBO, and they have an all-star cast. Pull up the names of these actors.

  • 1:29:51

    Nicole Kidman, Donald Sutherland, and Hugh Grant. So HBO is bringing Sunday nights back. What

  • 1:29:56

    else? HBO has always been a Sunday night. Yeah, they do Sundays. They took a

  • 1:30:02

    little break. Yeah, we used to stop what we was doing for Sunday night HBO

  • 1:30:07

    program. No, Game of Thrones, Boardwalk Empire, it's still happening. Game of Thrones was three

  • 1:30:13

    years ago. I do feel like HBO likes Sundays. No, Sunday nights. But Rory, did

  • 1:30:18

    you hear what we said? Donald Sutherland, Nicole Kidman, and Hugh Grant. It's a classic

  • 1:30:24

    whodunit. Yeah, and I'm a sucker for shows that take place in... like present day

  • 1:30:29

    New York City. Yeah, absolutely. I'm a sucker for that. Yeah, me too. And old

  • 1:30:34

    New York. Maul thinks that he has cracked this case. I think so. And because

  • 1:30:39

    it's early, we're not giving away spoiler alerts. But we can guess things, right? That's

  • 1:30:44

    not a spoiler. If we hypothesize. Let's let it bake. If you haven't seen this

  • 1:30:50

    show, you should definitely check it out. They're doing a really, really fine job. The

  • 1:30:54

    actors and actresses are great. The storyline is great. They're doing a really good job,

  • 1:30:59

    man. So check it out if you have yet to see it. I think it's

  • 1:31:04

    the people that did Big Little Lies, which is a great show as well. Yeah,

  • 1:31:08

    another one. I don't think I have much else to get into. Those are my

  • 1:31:14

    shows. Those are the music. I think I've given you enough about my headspace, where

  • 1:31:19

    I'm at, my mental health. I think you guys have as well, unless y'all have

  • 1:31:24

    some more. We do have a guest that we're really excited about, right? Yes, absolutely.

  • 1:31:29

    Overdue, actually. Should have been happening. Do we have anything to say about the NBA

  • 1:31:34

    season starting in 40 days? Too quick of a turnaround for me. I said LeBron

  • 1:31:40

    said he's gonna chippy hang all season into the playoffs. Yeah, I don't think I

  • 1:31:44

    don't blame him I don't think he'll probably he probably won't play much until even

  • 1:31:49

    I are they are they even have an all-star? That's a good question. I don't

  • 1:31:54

    know. I'm sure they're gonna have awesome I can't see LeBron playing playing until February

  • 1:31:59

    March. They also said that Despite what's going on with kovat that they will allow

  • 1:32:04

    fans in the arenas. Really? I We'll see how it turns out. You have to

  • 1:32:10

    present a clean bill. If you want to sit close to the court, you have

  • 1:32:15

    to present a negative COVID test to sit closer to the court. And I'll be

  • 1:32:20

    honest with y'all. I did think about calling up, calling up the AMC and renting

  • 1:32:26

    out a theater. Yeah. I miss it. Me too. i missed that and that's an

  • 1:32:30

    inexpensive thing it's not anything crazy to run out of theater for a showing i

  • 1:32:34

    know i just imagine that because it's so inexpensive that a lot of people would

  • 1:32:38

    be doing it but i don't think so i don't even think that you can't

  • 1:32:42

    there still might be a regulation on that on how many people you can actually

  • 1:32:45

    bring into oh i'm sure a private viewing i would love for them to do

  • 1:32:49

    that at the little wine and dine what's the name of the wine and down

  • 1:32:53

    that's not amc that's all max i pick yeah i think i pick yeah they

  • 1:32:57

    would never they're not beef us Um, and I don't even know what movie I

  • 1:33:01

    would go watch if I rented the theater movies or more The only thing I

  • 1:33:04

    maybe want to see is that Chris Nolan shit that came out tenant I heard

  • 1:33:08

    that tenant movie was amazing. Yeah, but I can watch that at home, right? I

  • 1:33:11

    tried I tried I look for it on one of the apps that I have

  • 1:33:15

    and they didn't have it That was a good bootleg out now. That was the

  • 1:33:18

    movie. I was supposed to bring back the movie theaters. Yes, I I know that

  • 1:33:23

    movie's good. I wanted to see that and a movie about the Black Panthers. Oh,

  • 1:33:28

    Black Panther. No, not Black Panther. The Huey Newton story. The Huey Newton story, yeah.

  • 1:33:33

    I wanted to see that. Oh, is that what Michael B. Jordan's getting all buffed

  • 1:33:38

    up for? No, I think it might be another Creed on the way. Don't hit

  • 1:33:43

    me. I know you got another Creed coming. Creed 7. Yeah, he's going to fight

  • 1:33:48

    Action Bronson or some shit. Action, bros. Great. Look who's joking. Great segue into

  • 1:33:54

    our guest. Oh, awesome. So we've got a lovely guy. A really lovely guy approaching

  • 1:33:59

    right now. Yeah, this looks great. Is this Tenet? Yeah. Yeah, this looks good. I

  • 1:34:05

    got to catch that. Oh, that's Keith David or John David. Oh, come on. I

  • 1:34:11

    love John David. David Washington. Denzel, son. John David, you mean. John

  • 1:34:17

    David Washington. Yeah, don't fuck as he talk chiming in trying to play me. You

  • 1:34:22

    mean Denzel's Washington stands. Shut up nigga. All right, cool. West side gun. West. They

  • 1:34:28

    tried to divide. I'll be I'll tell you what happened in the chatter house last

  • 1:34:33

    night. They tried to divide New York because New York niggas was in there deep

  • 1:34:39

    when they was attacking our hip-hop and then we said but we have Griselda and

  • 1:34:44

    then they said But you niggas never claimed Buffalo niggas before. That's true. They didn't.

  • 1:34:50

    Well, who the fuck was from Buffalo to claim before? Rick James. Yeah. Yeah, Rick.

  • 1:34:54

    The Goo Goo Dolls. You know what I'm saying, man. Listen, we have a very,

  • 1:34:59

    very special guest in the building. Honored to have him here. Friend of the show.

  • 1:35:04

    Boo! See, Breeze. Yo, I hate Breeze. It hit different. I ain't hear one reason,

  • 1:35:09

    Adley. It hit different. Wes, what's good with you, King? Man, I'm blessed, man. No,

  • 1:35:15

    I know, because you're looking like money, man. You look good. You look like the

  • 1:35:21

    merch sales is true. Yeah. All that shit I heard, that shit looks true with

  • 1:35:26

    you. Yeah. It's true. Is that inconvenient to get on a flight that you're about

  • 1:35:32

    to do? Nah, nah. I mean, You have to hold up TSA. That's gotta take

  • 1:35:38

    four hours to take all them chains off. Nah, they let me just, you know,

  • 1:35:42

    they had the regular one and then I just go through. Ah, the pre-check, the

  • 1:35:46

    clear one. Yeah. The non-mean one. Oh, it keeps the shoes on. Rich nigga shit.

  • 1:35:50

    Yeah. Rich nigga shit. We're not taking our shoes off. So you were kind enough

  • 1:35:55

    to, well, E-Rab is here, Erickson is here, Savon is here, Corey is here, Alex

  • 1:35:59

    the Great is here. You were kind enough to stop here with us before you

  • 1:36:04

    flew around because you're flying around still. You're not worried about that with all the

  • 1:36:09

    conditions going around in the country? Nah. I mean, at the end of the day,

  • 1:36:14

    I'll be masked and gloved up. It's Griselda. You're not scared of no fucking COVID.

  • 1:36:18

    God is my bodyguard, man. Fucking West Side Gun. He's not to anybody, too. He

  • 1:36:23

    was saying he had the COVID before. Before so he might be straight out here.

  • 1:36:27

    Yeah. As long as the nosy flight attendants every time my fucking mask falls one

  • 1:36:31

    centimeter off my nose tapping my shoulder. Hello. Hello. I haven't flown yet. So I

  • 1:36:35

    don't know that struggle. Yeah, it's bad. It's fine. Flying five hours to LA with

  • 1:36:39

    that mask on was crazy. You got to stay with the mask the whole time.

  • 1:36:43

    Well, I put the blanket over my head and took the mask over. Okay. Yeah,

  • 1:36:47

    I wasn't suffocated different way. Yeah, a little further away. Suffocation. I wasn't doing that.

  • 1:36:51

    Gotcha. Yeah. the that's cool with that i feel like nobody ever uh almost killed

  • 1:36:55

    you when you was a child with the blanket over your head um it was

  • 1:36:59

    some scary times with my cousins wrestling and yeah like i had some dark times

  • 1:37:03

    with that so my cousin treated me like the snake from jake the snake you

  • 1:37:07

    know the snake was in the bag me too one day i had to be

  • 1:37:10

    the snake he put me in the sheet and threw me over his shoulder was

  • 1:37:14

    carrying me around i was like i fan it was time so wait what i

  • 1:37:18

    understand your traumas a little bit yeah yeah yeah no that's all our traumas that

  • 1:37:22

    happened to all of us black kid snake at one point if you had an

  • 1:37:27

    older brother or cousins or some or uncle that was too drunk so wes you

  • 1:37:31

    caught colby to win town i'd like to hear more about that yeah it was

  • 1:37:35

    in um march i'm here to get into your brain pause yeah yeah yeah we

  • 1:37:40

    uh we had went on tour and uh right after tour you know and i

  • 1:37:45

    was joking because you know back in february everybody was like it's a hoax you

  • 1:37:49

    know not real all of that so you know i was i was the main

  • 1:37:54

    one talking you know what i'm saying like man that not real that not real

  • 1:37:59

    and then um you know last few days we had two two sold out days

  • 1:38:04

    in l.a and um the meet and greets at the end I'm doing this the

  • 1:38:09

    whole time you know I'm saying and people thought I was being funny but you

  • 1:38:14

    know and then I had left there right after tour I um I flew to

  • 1:38:18

    to meet Rayquan I came here actually for a day to meet Rayquan and then

  • 1:38:23

    I went to Wyoming with yay you know I'm saying Chill with yay. You just

  • 1:38:28

    didn't having a hot boy summer out here. We took the PJ back to LA

  • 1:38:33

    Oh God three days later. I talked to him again, and he was sick and

  • 1:38:38

    I was sick I was feeling weird, but I didn't know what was going on

  • 1:38:43

    He we talking to each other like how you feel how you feel? He went

  • 1:38:48

    and got tested and he had it Did you get did you did you get

  • 1:38:53

    all the symptoms I Everything. I thought I was done. I was making calls to

  • 1:38:57

    people like, yo, if I die, this is here, this is there. Like, it was

  • 1:39:01

    that bad for me. I couldn't get off the couch. I stayed in the house

  • 1:39:05

    for weeks. Couldn't get off the couch. I had to, and I was in Atlanta.

  • 1:39:08

    I had to go to an emergency room in Grady because I just couldn't breathe.

  • 1:39:12

    You know what I'm saying? So, It was crazy for me, man. I almost collapsed

  • 1:39:16

    at the door. I couldn't even make it from the car until there. They had

  • 1:39:21

    to wheelchair me and all of that. Goddamn. And you don't have asthma or nothing

  • 1:39:25

    like that? I got asthma. Oh, you do? Then I smoke an ounce a day,

  • 1:39:30

    too. Right. Yeah. So you mixing your asthma and all of that shit. So it

  • 1:39:34

    kind of like, like I said, I still be fucked up to this day because

  • 1:39:38

    of my asthma. But, you know. always wondered about street niggas with asthma why

  • 1:39:44

    you gotta stop running sometimes at some point that's got a kick in

  • 1:39:50

    like sure sure my asthma didn't bother me - after I had Colby

  • 1:39:56

    like I never used my pump I never been hospitalized nothing but after

  • 1:40:02

    every since Colby now I have to use a pump every day Well, I'm

  • 1:40:08

    glad that everything is all right. Oh, and I'm glad I didn't have asthma when

  • 1:40:11

    I went through it. And I had a few of those nights, too, where I

  • 1:40:15

    was like, all right, let me figure out who gets what here. That's crazy. I

  • 1:40:19

    think a lot of that shit, too, is anxiety. Like once you know you have

  • 1:40:23

    it, because I know a few people that had it and they was like, I

  • 1:40:26

    don't know if my chest was tight or if it was my anxiety that was

  • 1:40:29

    bothering me. I'm sure it plays into it to some degree, but it's real. People

  • 1:40:32

    was like, yo, I know I'm breathing, but it's like it was an anxious feeling.

  • 1:40:35

    Like you almost can't feel your lungs expand and you start panicking and shit like

  • 1:40:39

    that. So a lot of that shit plays into it. That's another thing too. I

  • 1:40:42

    have anxiety too. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You had all of that shit. The combo was

  • 1:40:46

    crazy. They're saying, too, that I think I said one in five people have like

  • 1:40:50

    mental health issues after suffering COVID. Mm hmm. So people are reading everything and you've

  • 1:40:54

    seen everything on the news and shit. So, yeah. So we want to shout out

  • 1:40:58

    to anybody who has had COVID and beat it. Oh, Uh, we definitely want to

  • 1:41:02

    send a prayer to anybody who has lost someone from COVID. Uh, and we want

  • 1:41:06

    to encourage people to continue to get tested, check on your health. Remember, very important,

  • 1:41:10

    very important. Wear a mask, wash your hands. Especially, we got to get back into

  • 1:41:15

    that with this whole second shutdown coming. Uh, they, they've, uh, the new curfew is

  • 1:41:19

    in effect in New York and New Jersey from 8 p.m. to 10 p.m. at

  • 1:41:23

    the owner's discretion, but no later than 10 p.m. Back indoors back to washing your

  • 1:41:28

    hands back to masking up back to Lysol and everything, you know the vibes We

  • 1:41:32

    just went through this we got it. Yeah. Yeah, um, though we should continue that

  • 1:41:37

    you should always wash your hands Lysol sanitizer and the mass thing is from the

  • 1:41:42

    I'll be walking out DJ shades He was here he was here two weeks before

  • 1:41:46

    that yes, I like that real close man rest in peace it's a legend So

  • 1:41:51

    now Wes has a flight to catch, so we want to get to the shits

  • 1:41:55

    early with this gentleman, yes? Yeah, so I was with Wes two days this week,

  • 1:41:58

    met up with him at the studio, and we just was having conversations, and he

  • 1:42:01

    was like, see, this is shit I need to talk about with y'all in the

  • 1:42:05

    pod. Like, this is shit out, because I don't really like sitting and talking with

  • 1:42:08

    people. So I was like, come on, let's do it. So he was like, you

  • 1:42:12

    know what, I'm supposed to leave Thursday, but I'm going to push the flight back

  • 1:42:15

    to Friday, so... Well, what were y'all kicking it about? Because niggas always say they

  • 1:42:19

    want to come here and kick it, but they don't ever really come kick it.

  • 1:42:23

    I mean, you know, well, first of all, you know, I'm working on Hitler with

  • 1:42:27

    Air Max 8, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, I drop that every

  • 1:42:30

    year. I would have, um... Would have dropped a high I drop it every Halloween.

  • 1:42:35

    This is my last one. I would have dropped a hollow Halloween this year, but

  • 1:42:39

    I dropped it who made the sunshine, you know saying This will be your third

  • 1:42:44

    or fourth this year. You got a lot of projects this year. Uh, this the

  • 1:42:48

    fourth I did I did our pray for Paris. Yeah, I did awesome God to

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    which at the time when I did awesome God to it wasn't even a real

  • 1:42:57

    like I project it was just like I just wanted to do something at the

  • 1:43:02

    time I was bored because I don't rap a lot like I might rap you

  • 1:43:06

    know three four times a year you know what i'm saying and so when i

  • 1:43:11

    when i start though i can't stop it so it's just like i do it

  • 1:43:14

    for two three all my projects is made with like a week or less it's

  • 1:43:18

    just when i feel like rapping you go go in the studio make it and

  • 1:43:22

    then it's done so i you know i couldn't really get in the rhythm to

  • 1:43:26

    rhyme you know i'm saying after like the coving and all that yeah and um

  • 1:43:30

    i had went to dallas And I end up, you know, I had to do

  • 1:43:34

    a feature for the Lox for they album. So I'm sitting there, I'm trying to

  • 1:43:38

    think of shit. Like I said, I ain't rhymed in months. Trying to think of

  • 1:43:41

    shit. I came with the hook. And then once I got the hook, I'm like,

  • 1:43:45

    damn, let me see what beats I got in my email. And then I put

  • 1:43:48

    on a beat and Ended up making like six songs that day and put like

  • 1:43:53

    a few joints I didn't release before, you know what I'm saying, on DSPs and

  • 1:43:58

    I just added Stove God Cooks on it and just called it Awesome God 2.

  • 1:44:03

    So it wasn't like, Pray for Paris is the real one. And then Who Made

  • 1:44:08

    the Sunshine, you know, that came out Shady Endoscope. Okay. dope dope yeah i think

  • 1:44:13

    i mixed one on pray for paris so the preem record yeah yeah and you

  • 1:44:17

    know i made the preem record when i had covet the album was done but

  • 1:44:21

    um preem when i put up the the cover He was like, "Yo, is it

  • 1:44:26

    done?" I'm like, "Yeah, but shit, if you send me something." This Primo, I never

  • 1:44:31

    had a solo Primo record. It was an honor. He was just like, "I'm going

  • 1:44:35

    to send you something." So when it was time to record, I knew I only

  • 1:44:40

    had one take, two at best, to knock it out because I couldn't breathe. That's

  • 1:44:44

    why that song is so short. People don't know that. It's because I had to

  • 1:44:49

    do it in one take. Wow. Was there much of a difference between putting out

  • 1:44:54

    Pray for Paris and Who Made the Sunshine? Being that Who Made the Sunshine was

  • 1:44:58

    a shady release and the other one wasn't. Nah. You know what I'm saying? It's

  • 1:45:03

    like, you know, I made Who Made the Sunshine in one week too. You know

  • 1:45:07

    what I'm saying? It was just like... rented something crazy out in beverly hills had

  • 1:45:12

    the studio set up in there and and as i was making them i was

  • 1:45:16

    just hitting everybody up at the time like yo i need you on this i

  • 1:45:20

    need you on this i need you on this by the time i come back

  • 1:45:24

    you know a couple hours later next day later they was already sending their back

  • 1:45:28

    so it's still the same formula you know i'm saying but um you know I

  • 1:45:33

    just went ahead and knocked it out can you tell me what it's like being

  • 1:45:38

    a rapper today with all this covid and the new normal stuff going on and

  • 1:45:42

    touring being canceled and just maybe releasing music how does it feel today to rap

  • 1:45:47

    with these new circumstances I mean, of course I miss the fans. I

  • 1:45:53

    miss the fans. I never turned down nobody, Pitcher, was ever acting funny.

  • 1:45:58

    That's why people fuck with me. I miss being around them. But as

  • 1:46:04

    far as music, everything is normal to me. It's not like COVID just

  • 1:46:10

    stopped shit. I done bought probably four or five cars this year. I

  • 1:46:15

    bought a house. you know what I'm saying more jewelry I do everything I

  • 1:46:21

    want like ain't nothing ever changed that's cause everyone in Atlanta is scamming unemployment and

  • 1:46:26

    SBA loans that's really what it is yeah like Atlanta never shut down yeah no

  • 1:46:31

    we know you know something's wrong with y'all out there it's nuts and I'm looking

  • 1:46:37

    for the Griselda infomercial to tell them to go in the house I tell you

  • 1:46:42

    I'm waiting for you to use your influence here to keep everyone safe. Like Benny,

  • 1:46:47

    he go out at least four days a week. Like he out every other night,

  • 1:46:52

    you know what I'm saying? But he's safe with a mask and, you know. Yeah,

  • 1:46:57

    yeah, yeah. Masked up, of course. Has anyone, has anyone, has anyone and by anyone,

  • 1:47:02

    I mean, Benny and Conway, have you noticed any new tendencies that either of them

  • 1:47:08

    have picked up with all the uh newfound notoriety because that's always fun to watch

  • 1:47:13

    too in artists i mean yeah of course you know i mean you know this

  • 1:47:18

    is family so i've known them since forever my whole life so you know just

  • 1:47:23

    now it's like You know, them niggas is Hollywood, man. Them niggas is Hollywood. Yeah!

  • 1:47:28

    And someone had to say it. I love my niggas, but nah, you know, it's

  • 1:47:32

    just, you know, come with it. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, we

  • 1:47:36

    from Eastside Buffalo. Nobody never made it out that shit. You know what I'm saying?

  • 1:47:40

    And, you know... I remember everybody in Buffalo wanted to take your head off. I

  • 1:47:45

    think you said nobody in Buffalo can rap a few years back. He was mad

  • 1:47:50

    as hell at Joe. I remember. We did a show out there. That sounds like

  • 1:47:54

    an opening. Hey, Wes, Joe's an idiot. Listen, honestly, I hear so many stories about

  • 1:47:59

    myself, but I remember that. Joe, it was some openers. There was one particularly bad

  • 1:48:03

    opener. That nigga was trash. Yeah. But I didn't mean the whole Buffalo. I meant

  • 1:48:07

    these niggas. That was a weird show. Someone threw a sex doll on stage. It

  • 1:48:11

    was a weird show. The niggas that was opening that show, they was going to

  • 1:48:14

    line me that night. That's a fact. What would you expect to happen had you

  • 1:48:18

    told all the openers that were from there Hey, y'all suck. I don't be thinking,

  • 1:48:22

    man. I don't be caring. What you thought was going to happen? Make a man

  • 1:48:27

    better music. I was encouraging them dudes. It wasn't them there. It wasn't Griselda. I

  • 1:48:32

    wouldn't have said that. It would have been them. We would have known that. And

  • 1:48:36

    it wasn't all of them that was trash. It was just one particular. It was

  • 1:48:41

    one particular. I remember that dude real bad. Now I'm thinking about all the hostings

  • 1:48:46

    they chased me out of. We never had shit. We never seen shit. You know

  • 1:48:51

    what I'm saying? So it's different now when you come across money and fame. Of

  • 1:48:56

    course you're going, you know, but it's not like it's not uncontrollable, but it's just

  • 1:49:01

    fun to watch because it's like, I love it. I love to see it. You

  • 1:49:05

    know what I'm saying? Because I've always been Hollywood. Right. You got to be Hollywood

  • 1:49:10

    to get a red car. Yeah, yeah, you know. I got red, I got oranges

  • 1:49:16

    now. I got an orange made back and an orange 21, the coupe, the AMG.

  • 1:49:22

    Mm-hmm. You know, those for my Phoenix house. Rob Markman: No, that's light. Yeah. Just

  • 1:49:26

    the Phoenix sun. Your house is match the state. I'ma say that's what you're doing.

  • 1:49:30

    I mean, if you want to try, I got the Mazda outside if you just

  • 1:49:34

    want to cruise that side way together. I got a clean Honda. You know what

  • 1:49:38

    I'm saying? Rob Markman: But Wes, tell us your story, because a lot of people,

  • 1:49:42

    they know, but they don't know. You weren't originally rapping. Yeah, I mean, growing up,

  • 1:49:47

    of course we all rapped as kids. We was inspired by hip hop our whole

  • 1:49:51

    life. You know what I'm saying? I was the kid that used to come home

  • 1:49:56

    right after school and still videotape. We not young. You know what I'm saying? you

  • 1:50:01

    know i used to videotape the videos and you know growing up with my uncle

  • 1:50:05

    bacon and my aunt michelle you know they was in high school so they was

  • 1:50:09

    lit so you know being in a household you know if you go to your

  • 1:50:13

    pops house you know my uncle was lit already hustling getting to the bag and

  • 1:50:16

    you know he was kind of the man in my neighborhood so when i always

  • 1:50:20

    say you know bacon or rest of peace bacon on my music you know that's

  • 1:50:24

    what i refer to and my aunt michelle they was the same age But she

  • 1:50:28

    was on my mom's side. She was lit, or her home. They was both on

  • 1:50:34

    the illest crews. Having that influence, I just been around hip hop my whole life.

  • 1:50:39

    I still remember just all the Salt-N-Pepa, LL Crew J's, everything all the way up

  • 1:50:45

    to NWA, you can't hear that shit, it's too short and all that. We was

  • 1:50:51

    a lot during them times. You liked a lot of nerdy hip hop too from

  • 1:50:56

    the interviews I've heard, like underground, internet, popular rap. I got into that in 2000.

  • 1:51:02

    It wasn't before 2000 though. What happened was I had went to stay with my

  • 1:51:07

    grandmother. She stayed on the outskirts. I mean it's only five minutes but Buffalo is

  • 1:51:13

    weird like Buffalo mentality like once you cross a certain Street you won't even it's

  • 1:51:18

    like no man's land like it's a whole nother state to niggas five minutes away

  • 1:51:23

    is right you know I'm saying that she you know passed over that street so

  • 1:51:27

    it's only five minutes away from the hood but just nobody go out there you

  • 1:51:32

    know I'm saying and um I had moved over there with her and you know

  • 1:51:37

    like I said once you cross that street you know it's more you know white

  • 1:51:42

    people over there so when I went out there I'm still hustling I got brains

  • 1:51:47

    I got platinum in my mouth for sure you know back then you know saying

  • 1:51:51

    and you know do are your neighbors white today yeah Rob Markman: They like you.

  • 1:51:57

    Lil Jon: Yeah, they love me. You know what I'm saying? They love me. Money

  • 1:52:03

    changes everything, man. I swear. My face tatted. You see I grew my hair during

  • 1:52:09

    all this shit. But it's just like, they love me. But I'm a respectable dude.

  • 1:52:15

    Like I'm not one of them assholes, you know what I'm saying? Like I was

  • 1:52:18

    raised the right way, honestly. But you know, at the end of the day, you

  • 1:52:22

    know, still being in the streets, your whole family in the streets and you just

  • 1:52:26

    want to get a bag. Like I had two kids when I was a teenager,

  • 1:52:30

    you know what I'm saying? So I had to start early and then I just

  • 1:52:33

    start going back and forth from Atlanta. I always was a supply and demand dude.

  • 1:52:37

    So what they needed in Buffalo, I can get from Atlanta, I'll take it. And

  • 1:52:41

    when I leave from Buffalo, go back to Atlanta, I I take it. So I

  • 1:52:44

    was being able to just get money different from everybody else that was just stuck

  • 1:52:49

    in buff. You know what I'm saying? And I got flyer because I had access

  • 1:52:54

    to Lenox Mall, Phipps Plaza, everybody else was just in the hood rocking fatigues and

  • 1:53:00

    hoodies and shit. And I could go to Versace and cop this and cop that.

  • 1:53:05

    So I go back and that shit just grew with me. Once you just start

  • 1:53:10

    living that lifestyle, you don't know no other way. keep getting bigger and bigger and

  • 1:53:15

    bigger. So, like my cars and jewelry and all that is just like trophies. It's

  • 1:53:20

    just me. It's not even for nobody else. It's not to get bitches. It's not

  • 1:53:25

    to, you know, trying to impress nobody. Nothing. It's just... Damn, poor him. He's not

  • 1:53:31

    using it to get bitches. It's like toys to me. Right. It's like toys to

  • 1:53:37

    me. Wes, no, slow down because we have to turn up the tough question meter

  • 1:53:43

    on him because he's going to tell us about some family shit that we can't

  • 1:53:49

    be toxic on. Wes, would you say that you have been talking spicy? I always

  • 1:53:54

    talk spicy. you know, at the end of the day, you know what I'm saying?

  • 1:53:59

    It's like, I always say how I feel. Today's, you know, niggas be shook to

  • 1:54:03

    say what they feel, you know what I'm saying? And I don't respect that. If

  • 1:54:08

    you feel a certain way, say that shit. You know what I'm saying? And I

  • 1:54:12

    think... People be caught off guard because I really say that shit and nobody else

  • 1:54:16

    do you know I'm saying so I look like the bad guy But you also

  • 1:54:20

    understand it looks like you don't value relationships. Yeah, you know at the same time

  • 1:54:24

    soon I'm a big wrestling fan. So it's like I'm a hill, you know, it's

  • 1:54:28

    like I'm the good bad guy You know, I mean, you know how it's like,

  • 1:54:32

    you know, I Could come out I'm on my mean shit, but the fans root

  • 1:54:37

    for Sam it's kind of like that, you know, but you know everybody take what

  • 1:54:41

    I say just And run with it. But like I said at the end of

  • 1:54:45

    the day is never no disrespect Like I literally got love for everybody. I don't

  • 1:54:49

    have no beef no hate literally towards nobody I'm a fan of hip-hop, you know

  • 1:54:53

    I'm saying and I love the art of it and all you know when I

  • 1:54:57

    used to say what I used to say you know, I used to just be

  • 1:55:01

    like the point i was trying to make is why grizelda don't get to respect

  • 1:55:06

    everybody else doing you actually seeing this out here putting in that work you know

  • 1:55:10

    what i'm saying you can't you can't give another you can't give another crew best

  • 1:55:15

    group of the year and they ain't put out and we put out seven eight

  • 1:55:20

    projects collectively and they all fire i agree i agree what just because they commercial

  • 1:55:25

    they they automatically get that right yeah yeah that's how it works yeah yeah that's

  • 1:55:30

    why i was asking respect from who like i mean that's from people that you

  • 1:55:35

    probably don't respect i mean you know like i said it's love for everybody you

  • 1:55:40

    know it was funny because uh You know, y'all have reason on here. You know

  • 1:55:45

    what I'm saying? Y'all was speaking. You know, I thought it was fun. I'm smoking.

  • 1:55:49

    He did too, by the way. You know what I'm saying? Y'all saw love. I

  • 1:55:53

    just seen reason last week. That's what I'm saying. You know, it's all love. Shout

  • 1:55:57

    out to reason. Yeah, I don't perpetuate beef up here all the time. That's not.

  • 1:56:00

    I was at the strip club in Atlanta. caught him slipping, told your niggas chill,

  • 1:56:05

    said, "Yo, is that Reese?" They said, "Yeah, you want me to go handle it?"

  • 1:56:10

    You said, "Nah." I know how this goes. Nah, but real shit, I was in

  • 1:56:16

    a strip club in Atlanta having fun, eating chicken wings, throwing money. Regular shit. And

  • 1:56:21

    my peoples had put up an IG story, so some of Benny's... inner circle they

  • 1:56:26

    seen the IG so they like oh you up the block you know I'm saying

  • 1:56:31

    we about to come up there and fuck with y'all so they came and I'm

  • 1:56:37

    like sure we are coming from like oh yeah you know Benny and reason at

  • 1:56:42

    the studio I spent oh no you're loaded the clip got the guns together drove

  • 1:56:47

    up the yo and Yo, I heard that pod nigga. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No,

  • 1:56:51

    as soon as I went in there. I'm kidding. Yeah, no, as soon as I

  • 1:56:55

    went in there, you know, that first probably, you know, his homies, everybody probably was

  • 1:57:00

    like, oh shit. But as soon as I seen him, I went up to him.

  • 1:57:04

    You know, it's love, my nigga. Like I said that off rip. You know what

  • 1:57:08

    I'm saying? You can ask reason right now. I promise you

  • 1:57:13

    hit him like my niggas

  • 1:57:18

    in there with Mac 11s

  • 1:57:24

    my man just walk around

  • 1:57:29

    the studio like this move

  • 1:57:34

    like that and I really was loved. - It is so scary to be a

  • 1:57:40

    rapper now. What are y'all doing to our profession? - That poor guy. - But

  • 1:57:44

    no, it was all love. I went straight to him and he was like, "Nah,

  • 1:57:49

    man, everything is love." And we actually started kicking it, exchanged numbers, all of that

  • 1:57:53

    shit. He wanted me to actually get on the record, but I don't rap like

  • 1:57:57

    that. I gotta actually be in the mood to rap. You know what I'm saying?

  • 1:58:02

    It wasn't no disrespect why I didn't even get on it, but I just didn't

  • 1:58:07

    feel like rapping. But no, it's all love. I got a record with Schoolboy. Schoolboy

  • 1:58:11

    on my brother's show. It was all love with everybody. The media tried to spin

  • 1:58:16

    that shit. Rob Markman: Yeah, I was trying to spin it. We heard you just

  • 1:58:20

    now. What you want me to do? Rob Markman: You said what you said. It

  • 1:58:25

    wasn't too much media spin. all right so

  • 1:58:30

    would you design uh

  • 1:58:35

    tde's merch why would

  • 1:58:40

    you on his floor it was

  • 1:58:46

    it was he couldn't give you a couch before the money okay got it we

  • 1:58:50

    love you dj dj is my family got it got it got it i would

  • 1:58:54

    though i would design a merch you know it's for the culture and it's for

  • 1:58:59

    a bag you would design somebody's merch if they brought it to you that's kind

  • 1:59:03

    of my issue with rappers not reaching out to y'all to do so Yeah, like,

  • 1:59:07

    you know, see, that's the thing. I'm more designer than rapper anyway. You know what

  • 1:59:11

    I'm saying? Like, getting back to when y'all asked, like, I really wasn't rapping. I

  • 1:59:16

    wasn't. Like, of course, we did it when we was kids. I tried my hand

  • 1:59:21

    in '04, but I got into some legal shit. I had to move to Alabama.

  • 1:59:27

    I was on the run in Alabama. So I was down there. I said, "Fuck

  • 1:59:33

    the music." But everybody else was still going on, and I just sneaked back in

  • 1:59:39

    town, fucked with them. I ended up getting knocked. I came home. You know, I

  • 1:59:44

    was still, you know, in the South, just hustling, still trying to just, you know,

  • 1:59:48

    make a way or whatever the case may be. I end up violating, you know,

  • 1:59:52

    going back to prison. And then I came home and I'm just like, yo, you

  • 1:59:56

    know, I'm about to get behind the homies. You know what I'm saying? The Conway

  • 2:00:00

    was doing his thing and I was managing them. I had a little bread, was

  • 2:00:04

    trying to put some money up for some shit, you know, just use my connections

  • 2:00:08

    from me being in Atlanta. You know what I'm saying? Because I was hustling. you

  • 2:00:12

    know during like the bmf days all that like i was i was out there

  • 2:00:17

    in them days too so i knew a lot of people and um so i

  • 2:00:22

    was just trying to use my resources and then that's when he ended up getting

  • 2:00:27

    shot and then i was just like yo this rap game is trash anyway these

  • 2:00:33

    is soft we was already in the club throwing thousands a week having fun popping

  • 2:00:38

    bottles and that's before yeah hitler one even trying i needed rap to do that

  • 2:00:43

    Not even potting. We was doing that and he ended up getting shot, like I

  • 2:00:49

    said, and I was just like, yo, you know what I mean? I could do

  • 2:00:55

    better than these dudes, but I'm not going... I'm only going to do what I

  • 2:01:00

    know and I just started rapping like I was in '04. You know what I'm

  • 2:01:04

    saying? It wasn't no difference. I'm not about to rap like I'm from the South

  • 2:01:09

    and all that other shit, the shit that was popular. I just did what I

  • 2:01:13

    knew when I was rhyming. And I sound exactly the same. Like, my flow today

  • 2:01:17

    is the same from '04. Rob Markman: That tape that you put out, that was

  • 2:01:21

    an old tape recently, that was from '04? Yeah. Rob Markman: Okay, yeah. Yeah. So

  • 2:01:25

    that's what I'm saying. Rob Markman: Sounds the same, yeah. Sound the same. You know

  • 2:01:29

    what I mean? Rob Markman: And that was wild seeing everyone's picture so young on

  • 2:01:32

    that cover. Yeah. Conway and Benny always been the best rappers in Buffalo period like

  • 2:01:38

    nobody I'm talking about this back when you know Wu-Tang was Wu-Tang right you know

  • 2:01:43

    respect to them not saying like they not them now you know I'll get it

  • 2:01:49

    dude you know when they prime no let's explain it yeah yeah yeah yeah for

  • 2:01:54

    Joe's sake yeah let's clear it up and um but you know even them days

  • 2:01:59

    you know Conway was Conway, he was nasty. He went by

  • 2:02:05

    Ken and then battling everybody. My brother come from the battle era. He had

  • 2:02:11

    battled four or five dudes for the bag and win. I never really seen

  • 2:02:17

    my brother lose ever. Conway battled somebody and the backlash from it got so

  • 2:02:23

    bad, dude killed himself. oh wow like he beat him that bad in this city

  • 2:02:27

    in front of all his homies and end up how much uh uh hip-hop was

  • 2:02:31

    happening like as far as like live in buffalo at that time because i'm from

  • 2:02:35

    upstate and it wasn't a lot you know no it was um just underground you

  • 2:02:39

    know what i'm saying like like that's what i'm saying when i went out to

  • 2:02:43

    that town i got introduced to like a a neighborhood like you know spot that

  • 2:02:47

    was playing like the shit you was saying, like the nerdy shit. So, you know,

  • 2:02:52

    the hood didn't know nothing about this shit. So I was, you know, I kept

  • 2:02:57

    that shit a secret. I was tucking it, you know, getting instrumentals. You know, back

  • 2:03:02

    then, you know, it was, you know, what was like hard knock like three you

  • 2:03:06

    know i mean all the like this is in my lifetime three i mean like

  • 2:03:09

    all them type of albums you know what i'm saying and you know dip set

  • 2:03:13

    start bubbling g units start bubbling all of that but you know i was rapping

  • 2:03:17

    on necro beats and like that like access to you know i mean they like

  • 2:03:20

    where you getting these beats from yeah but i was you know i had a

  • 2:03:24

    little cheat code you know what i'm saying and um my sound just sounded different

  • 2:03:28

    but nobody really didn't fuck with me then either. I'ma keep it a hundred. I

  • 2:03:32

    always thought I was dope, but people didn't get it. They didn't understand it. They

  • 2:03:37

    just wanted ... This was when Dipset and G-Unit was in A prime. You know

  • 2:03:41

    what I'm saying? So when I'm rapping, what I'm rapping about, and they rapping just

  • 2:03:46

    grimy as fuck, the people just was like, "My shit wasn't going to work." And

  • 2:03:50

    just like when I started with Hitler 1, it was like, "It's not going to

  • 2:03:55

    work." i i always thought it was called hitler huh why it was called hitler

  • 2:03:59

    yeah yeah if i would have heard that i would have said yeah yeah man

  • 2:04:03

    this probably gonna work but you know you know it was just a spin off

  • 2:04:07

    of the double wedge product and then it just started getting bigger and bigger and

  • 2:04:11

    bigger and bigger and i you know it just became a series and i didn't

  • 2:04:16

    change the name And it just grew, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know,

  • 2:04:21

    nobody, I mean, you know, nobody didn't think like he's praising Hitler. Like nobody never

  • 2:04:26

    thought that, you know what I'm saying? It's not like I got a skinhead, tall

  • 2:04:31

    boots and I don't even mention Hitler in my shit. It just became, it was

  • 2:04:36

    the first project and I just, part two, then part three, part four, it just

  • 2:04:42

    started. What is your current label situation? I'm off Shady. That was the

  • 2:04:47

    last joint, right? Yeah. I'm off shady. I'm actually a free agent. How's that

  • 2:04:53

    feel? Feel great. Who made the sunshine was it. You know what I'm saying?

  • 2:04:59

    I already spoke to Paul. Everything good. Everything is signed, sealed, delivered. I got

  • 2:05:05

    my paperwork. I'm off shady. You know what I'm saying? That's what's up. You

  • 2:05:10

    think they dropped the ball? Come on, Wes. Give us something salacious. Give us

  • 2:05:16

    some clickbait. We don't want clickbait. Give us something to get us hot out here.

  • 2:05:21

    Give us something Elliot and two cool dope boys will post. Two cool dope boys.

  • 2:05:25

    Two pretty cool dope head boys. Not a blog. All of them. Not a blog,

  • 2:05:30

    right. Yeah, give us something. What's happening out there? I like how you niggas have

  • 2:05:34

    suppressed all of the behind the scenes mess that y'all have gone through. I feel

  • 2:05:39

    like I paved the way for that, I'll be honest. I mean... Yeah, you dead.

  • 2:05:44

    You dead. Yeah, you can't sugarcoat. You can't even find a cooler way to say

  • 2:05:49

    it. You dead, but you know, I'm one of them type of dudes like, you

  • 2:05:54

    know, I'm not no pillow-talking nigga. You know what I'm saying? So that's just how

  • 2:05:58

    I move. Even if I... You know what I'm saying? It's like saying... me and

  • 2:06:04

    and and you know benny or me and conway or conway and benny or whoever

  • 2:06:08

    we might have a disagreement the world will never know you see this is going

  • 2:06:12

    to be brothers and cousins it's the same way even with business you know what

  • 2:06:16

    i'm saying because damn it today you know at the end of the day you

  • 2:06:20

    know what i'm saying come on then let me this is this is a big

  • 2:06:25

    world you know i'm saying and you know Even if somebody else's suck, I'm not

  • 2:06:29

    I'm never gonna play that sucker role. Let me tell the audience Let me tell

  • 2:06:34

    the audience out there. Hey West brought a guy here and with morals who was

  • 2:06:38

    in the background of green man No, I'm not trying to get you do the

  • 2:06:42

    clickbait shit Let me reword the question so you don't have to get into the

  • 2:06:47

    chatty patty shit I saw that you tweeted that you think you should run Def

  • 2:06:51

    Jam and I agree with you What do you think a major label should offer

  • 2:06:55

    an artist in? Like a Benny Conway Westside risotto click. Well, what do you think

  • 2:07:01

    needs to happen for them to see it? Um, I mean they should already have

  • 2:07:06

    seen no, no, no, no, they never see it I think so. I mean, it's

  • 2:07:12

    just like you know, and I even thought about that a little bit longer and

  • 2:07:17

    all you know, I came to conclusion that I I don't even have to

  • 2:07:23

    worry about running Def Jam, I'm just going to make Griselda bigger. I didn't already

  • 2:07:28

    build this, so why worry about somebody else? Unless it's an offer that I can't

  • 2:07:34

    refuse. They have to come to me now. When I was saying that, I was

  • 2:07:39

    thinking, growing up, what Def Jam was to the culture. I was just like,

  • 2:07:45

    yo, I know I could bring that back from just my ear, my vision, the

  • 2:07:50

    merch, just everything. Like I would have people out here around the world wearing Def

  • 2:07:54

    Jam hoodies, Def Jam leathers. You know what I'm saying? I have it to where,

  • 2:07:59

    you know, you'll have the best production in the game coming from Def Jam. And

  • 2:08:03

    I'm not just talking about hip-hop. I'm talking about R&B, too. I'm talking about whatever.

  • 2:08:07

    Are you R&B-ing? You know something about that? I'd rather listen to R&B than rap.

  • 2:08:12

    You know what I'm saying? Get the hell out of town. I think a lot

  • 2:08:16

    of dudes that... rap well and make really good music, I think they do

  • 2:08:22

    like listening to R&B more. I listen to rap too. I rap. I cool rap.

  • 2:08:28

    I hear so much rap. And I listen to people because I'm a fan.

  • 2:08:34

    You know, especially people that I respect but you know after that is just like

  • 2:08:39

    I go right back It's a need a bacon motherfucking Baby face you What you

  • 2:08:45

    was doing in the club when that a Marie came on You throwing your gun

  • 2:08:50

    in there? You thought it was Onyx? Nah, nah, nah. That's what I'm saying. Of

  • 2:08:54

    course I... Nah, you know I party though. That's what I'm saying. I turn up.

  • 2:08:58

    We in the club. We popping bottles. We in the strip club. You know what

  • 2:09:03

    I'm saying? Don't get that twisted. Like, you know, it's the culture. But I'm just

  • 2:09:07

    saying, Fyre is just like listening to hip hop all day. I don't do that.

  • 2:09:11

    And like me personally, like... I think the same way, you know, what I did

  • 2:09:16

    with hip-hop I could do in the R&B world because the way I would approach

  • 2:09:20

    it would be totally different from the way anybody else approached it. So maybe Griselda

  • 2:09:24

    signs an R&B act one day. It's coming. Is what you're saying. It's coming very

  • 2:09:29

    soon because that's what I'm saying. I'm about to just go full-blown CEO mode. You

  • 2:09:33

    hear that, sir? You know what I'm saying? Heard that, sis? For real. Shout out

  • 2:09:38

    to SZA. No, I would like that from Griselda, R&B. Yeah, of course. Of course.

  • 2:09:44

    I hate the word aesthetic, but I would like to see R&B with that aesthetic.

  • 2:09:50

    I didn't even like you saying I would like that from y'all. That was a

  • 2:09:56

    little industry for me. I mean, I could fight, though. That's not debatable. Niggas have

  • 2:10:02

    debated it. they debated i'm telling you then they lost in the

  • 2:10:08

    fight hey now i was about to say now that um you know

  • 2:10:14

    that that i'm free you know what i'm saying like I'm free

  • 2:10:19

    from the shackles explore more the shady restraints do a lot of things you know

  • 2:10:24

    I mean but you know like I said everything in my life happened for a

  • 2:10:29

    reason you know um you know prison happened for a reason you know everything happened

  • 2:10:34

    for a reason in this industry everything helped me grow you know I'm saying So

  • 2:10:39

    it just prepared me for just the next steps in life, you know what I'm

  • 2:10:44

    saying? And people seeing what happened, what I did from a city that nobody ever

  • 2:10:49

    made it from. We didn't have one office built in the going to, like, listen

  • 2:10:54

    to my shit. Not one, you know what I'm saying? And I already told you,

  • 2:10:58

    if somebody cross one street, they think they out of state. So how far you

  • 2:11:03

    think New York City is? You know what I'm saying? I'm talking about, I only

  • 2:11:09

    been to Rochester three times in my life and that's 45 minutes away. I know

  • 2:11:14

    how that goes. I know how that goes. I know we were joking about Benny

  • 2:11:19

    and Conway being famous and how they act now. Do y'all think that longer route,

  • 2:11:24

    and not to say y'all are not old by any means, but y'all are older

  • 2:11:29

    than the typical rapper in this era to be famous. You think it was beneficial

  • 2:11:34

    to get famous later in life? Of course. Because we've been through so much. You

  • 2:11:40

    know what I'm saying? A lot of these young boys ain't been through shit. You

  • 2:11:45

    know what I'm saying? So they just, you know, they just wilding. They just, you

  • 2:11:50

    know, doing everything that's trendy and cool. And, you know, it's unfortunate. You know, everybody

  • 2:11:55

    want to be the tough guy and all of that. And they don't, you know,

  • 2:12:00

    they don't have kids. That's, you know, teenagers already and shit. So, yeah. They don't

  • 2:12:05

    understand that. We could speak on it because we really was

  • 2:12:11

    doing that for a long time. If you 20 years old,

  • 2:12:16

    I was selling dope before you was born. You see what

  • 2:12:22

    I'm saying? Of course I could talk about it. It'd be funny because

  • 2:12:28

    even some dudes from the neighborhood I grew up in, because I don't be there

  • 2:12:33

    no more that they do they thing in the street. You ain't from here. You

  • 2:12:37

    ain't from over here. What you talking about? Rob Markman: They took your Buffalo card

  • 2:12:42

    from you? I supposed to still be out here? I'm confused. You know what I'm

  • 2:12:47

    saying? just seven six years ago y'all boys was 12 years old like I wasn't

  • 2:12:52

    thinking about y'all that's what I was wanting to say to the young boys in

  • 2:12:58

    Jersey City but they'd blow my brain Buffalo Buffalo niggas will too Buffalo niggas will

  • 2:13:03

    too but you know like at the end of the day too you know I

  • 2:13:08

    speak to them and also talk to them and explain why they shouldn't even have

  • 2:13:12

    that mentality too. And they be like, you know what, you right big homie. You

  • 2:13:16

    know what I'm saying? You right. That's like me saying... a nigga that's 55 he

  • 2:13:21

    ain't from my hood because you know what I'm saying like nah you can't you

  • 2:13:25

    can't do that you know what I'm saying but um you because every time I

  • 2:13:29

    go to Buffalo I go to the hood you know I'm saying I go to

  • 2:13:33

    my house like we I'm we not one of them people that's like ducking and

  • 2:13:38

    dodging like everybody in this whole city know who he is I was just in

  • 2:13:42

    a house party the other day. Name another rapper right now is still going in

  • 2:13:46

    the house party in the hood with all this shit on with, but the thing

  • 2:13:51

    is, it's like, I don't move sloppy either. You know what I'm saying? Like, you

  • 2:13:55

    know, my team, you know, we, We go around right and I keep, you know

  • 2:13:59

    what I'm saying? You had Mac 11 do it with you? Yes, I did. Joe,

  • 2:14:04

    it's registered. It only take one dude to make you feel right at home. Make

  • 2:14:08

    you feel safe as a bird. Yes, I did, you know? Shout out to him.

  • 2:14:13

    You know what I mean? Him. No names needed. Just him. Just him. Just him.

  • 2:14:17

    Just him. He's shout out to him. You know, at the end of the day,

  • 2:14:21

    it's like, you know, you just got to be careful. Like, the same Mac 11

  • 2:14:25

    dude was here in New York while I was just here recording. You know what

  • 2:14:29

    I mean? I'm flying back. He got to drive back. You know what I mean?

  • 2:14:33

    Right. You know why. You know what I'm saying? I think I heard a Conway

  • 2:14:37

    girly snippet the other day. Like a girly song snippet. Oh yeah, he got a

  • 2:14:42

    few. He got a few. It paused me. I'll be honest with you. I'm here

  • 2:14:46

    to bring you some of the Griselda hate too. I don't know which song you

  • 2:14:49

    probably played, but you know. Something you could play with some girls around. It's a

  • 2:14:53

    joint that Berg did, I think. Hitmaker did it. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

  • 2:14:57

    I know what you're talking about. Yeah, he got a few joints. I know what

  • 2:15:01

    you're talking about. I did see that clip. Yeah, he played a few of those

  • 2:15:04

    in the studio. That's when he was in Miami. Yeah, so Khan is doing that.

  • 2:15:08

    That happened. Benny got Drake records in the tuck, some Hit-Boy shit coming. I see

  • 2:15:13

    the expansion. I see that expansion, some of that growth, some of that evolution that

  • 2:15:18

    some people say they're waiting on from y'all. I see y'all getting into that back.

  • 2:15:23

    Yeah. It's all about timing. See, that's the thing. This shit happens organic. We not

  • 2:15:28

    paying for this shit. We not trying to be buddy-buddy with nobody and none of

  • 2:15:32

    that shit. If I'm cool with you, I'm cool with you. If I'm not, I'm

  • 2:15:37

    not. And it's just like, if it happens, it happens. So it's just like right

  • 2:15:42

    now, just the progression and people respecting it because now we're starting to get to

  • 2:15:47

    a wider audience. Before it was just really still kind of underground. But when you

  • 2:15:51

    got somebody rapping like Benny, you got somebody rapping like Conway, You know what I'm

  • 2:15:56

    saying? You got somebody style like mine. I never ... You know how people always

  • 2:16:02

    say, "Benny's the best, Conway's the best, West Side Gun got the ad-libs." West Side

  • 2:16:08

    Gun also got Rolls Royce trucks and Lamborghinis and multiple Benz's and houses in four

  • 2:16:14

    states. Rob Markman: You think you remanded them with "Pray for Paris"? Do you think

  • 2:16:20

    you reminded them, Pray for Paris, that you may make better albums than everybody? I

  • 2:16:25

    think I make better albums than anybody. You do make good albums. I

  • 2:16:31

    didn't sell that the best, but the way I orchestrate it, the way I executive

  • 2:16:35

    produce, that's why I am who I am and what I ... Like I was

  • 2:16:40

    saying about how I can run another company, because I will be ... If I

  • 2:16:45

    have flagship artists, I'm going to be in the room with them. Like, "Yo, let's

  • 2:16:50

    cook this." I already know ... I study art, I study production, I study fashion.

  • 2:16:55

    All these things I'm into is not by coincidence. Like I don't have Virgil Desiigner

  • 2:16:59

    on my album cover because I'm the best rapper. You know what I'm saying? You

  • 2:17:04

    like that shit he did? For me? For me, I love it. I can't say

  • 2:17:09

    about nobody else. You know what I'm saying? Yes, you can. I mean, you know,

  • 2:17:15

    - Mo, next time tell me when these niggas is too mature for us to

  • 2:17:19

    get something salacious, man. - Nah, man. - He's too mature. - Salacious is not

  • 2:17:23

    the word. - Nah, nah, you know, for real G shit, it's not even that.

  • 2:17:27

    It's just, you know, I keep it 100. Like, I'ma be honest. You look on

  • 2:17:31

    my Instagram, I don't follow nobody. I don't follow Benny or Conway. Like, I don't

  • 2:17:35

    even really entertain none of this shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know,

  • 2:17:39

    I'm a father. You know what I'm saying? I'm a businessman. And you know, I

  • 2:17:43

    work overtime. Like people don't see me behind the scenes because I'm you know on

  • 2:17:47

    the scene a lot because I'm behind the scene, you know what I'm saying? So,

  • 2:17:50

    you know, of course I'm a pop out, talk my shit, say we the best,

  • 2:17:54

    say we the flyest, say we the illest because that's how I really feel, you

  • 2:17:57

    know what I'm saying? Like what everybody else doing, it don't impress me, it don't

  • 2:18:01

    move me. I'm just be totally real, you know what I'm saying? And that's in

  • 2:18:05

    the industry and then when you want to take it to the street, I know

  • 2:18:09

    you came from. Nobody wants to take it. Everybody's cool. Nobody said nothing about the

  • 2:18:13

    streets. It's the truth. And it's respectively. You know what I'm saying? But, you know,

  • 2:18:18

    like I say, you know, in the fashion, like I'm starting to really like get

  • 2:18:22

    into that. Like I said, I went out to Paris. I left the country for

  • 2:18:27

    the first time this year. COVID fucked up everything, but I went out there. Virgil

  • 2:18:32

    had my song playing at the fashion show. That was big. I was sitting front

  • 2:18:37

    row that whole week, and I came back with the New York Fashion Week, and

  • 2:18:42

    I've just been meeting a lot of heads. That's... COVID didn't fuck up the music,

  • 2:18:47

    but it fucked up my fashion bag because I was about to be able to

  • 2:18:51

    start going to Japan and Italy and Paris doing all of these things, and that

  • 2:18:55

    stopped it. So as soon as this shit can open back up. How long do

  • 2:19:00

    you think until some of that is back into play? About a summer. This summer?

  • 2:19:04

    That's optimistic. I think so. You know what I'm saying? I think so. Fashion shows,

  • 2:19:08

    though, you don't have to put that many people in the seats. Suppose a lot

  • 2:19:14

    of that is video. I think it's too much money being lost right now. Both

  • 2:19:19

    presidents were saying, soon as they, whoever get elected, we working on the cure. That

  • 2:19:25

    cure coming by the summer. You know what I'm saying? Before that. Yeah, yeah. That's

  • 2:19:30

    what I said. By the summer, shit should be back up. Yeah. You know I'm

  • 2:19:36

    ready to get Like into that You know we got the The movie Conflicted You

  • 2:19:40

    know that's the first movie All Griselda films You know Benny starring in it He

  • 2:19:44

    acting Oh cool I just talked to Rick James family. We work, you know what

  • 2:19:49

    I'm saying? They put me on a team now to consult and just be on

  • 2:19:54

    top of the whole Rick James movie. I'm with his brother. They're 11 months apart.

  • 2:19:59

    He was his manager, you know what I'm saying? And his lawyer. So I know

  • 2:20:03

    everything you could possibly think of of Rick James from... you know when he was

  • 2:20:08

    in the white band out in Toronto to you know Prince to him going on

  • 2:20:13

    tour to the fighting to the drugs to Tina Marie I got everything from the

  • 2:20:18

    horse's mouth all this crew you know so we about to do something big with

  • 2:20:23

    with Rick James you know what I'm saying so that's dope that's the type of

  • 2:20:28

    I'm on you know what I'm saying 1000 percent listen we were talking off air

  • 2:20:33

    about The amazing bond that you and your significant other have. So is

  • 2:20:39

    there any way you can share with me how the Armani Caesar signing conversations

  • 2:20:44

    went in the house? You can tell me. This is safe space. No, no.

  • 2:20:50

    You know, she a gangster you know I'm saying like she she know

  • 2:20:56

    Armani they real cool they real fam like you know Armani can stay you know

  • 2:21:02

    stay at the house you know I'm saying like oh my god yeah yeah she's

  • 2:21:08

    beautiful man shout out to Armani you know I'm saying she 21 um you know

  • 2:21:13

    it's 22 them years is like gonna be Armani's because those I know

  • 2:21:19

    what I'm about to do for, you know what I'm saying? Like I said, I

  • 2:21:24

    have a vision, you know what I'm saying? Certain people is already stars, they just

  • 2:21:28

    need me, you know what I mean? A manager, you know what I'm saying? Yeah,

  • 2:21:33

    absolutely. That has the vision and can whip everything together. She nasty, like seriously, not

  • 2:21:37

    one of us ever wrote one bar. We just put on the beat. We don't

  • 2:21:42

    never tell her a concept, nothing. We just put on the beat, you know what

  • 2:21:46

    I'm saying? She's nasty. She's super dope. She's nasty. She is. That last project was

  • 2:21:51

    really dope. Like I said, she's beautiful. She from Buffalo too. Mm-hmm. She's got a

  • 2:21:55

    hustler mentality with the clothes. Yeah, she make her own bag. Like, we can make

  • 2:22:00

    bags together, but, you know, Armani always was wearing designer shit, too, driving Benz's and

  • 2:22:05

    shit, too, before she came to Griselda. That's important, right, when you find an artist,

  • 2:22:10

    someone that's doing the work themselves. Yeah, yeah. And I was just like, you know,

  • 2:22:15

    you from home. You know, she come from DJ Shea. You know, Shea had her,

  • 2:22:20

    like, when I came home, She was already under Shea Wing then. Then she moved

  • 2:22:26

    to Charlotte. She was out there getting to her bag. She was dancing and

  • 2:22:32

    all of that, like getting to the bag. She stopped dancing, started doing her

  • 2:22:37

    boutique and still rhyming. But, you know, she was doing more like turn up music,

  • 2:22:42

    you know what I'm saying? Strip club music. But I still remember her from when

  • 2:22:46

    I came home when she had to rap next to Conway and Benny. Right. So

  • 2:22:50

    I already knew she had it in her. Right. You know what I'm saying? So

  • 2:22:54

    I'm just like, yo, nobody else that look like you rap over. There's nobody that

  • 2:22:58

    looks like you that can rap over Primo. Yeah. Let's do something that nobody else

  • 2:23:02

    doing. You're a unicorn. You know what I'm saying? So let's get to the bag.

  • 2:23:07

    But guess what? Next year, she's going to be on a hit maker and a

  • 2:23:12

    fucking juicy J2. I got to be honest, Wes. Every time I tried that move,

  • 2:23:17

    it went horribly wrong. Like going to the young chick saying, yo, you'll wear this

  • 2:23:22

    waist trainer better than all of them. It just never went over well in the

  • 2:23:26

    house. Yeah, but you know, Like I said man, shout out to Big Pootie.

  • 2:23:32

    My daughter named Westside Pootie. She don't know my music. I call her

  • 2:23:38

    mom Big Pootie. Shout out to Big Pootie. How old is Westside Pootie?

  • 2:23:44

    Westside Pootie is seven. She been talking on my record since two. She's

  • 2:23:50

    on everything I drop. She's telling everybody they broke. Her interludes are

  • 2:23:55

    the funniest shit. She drew the cover for "Who Made the Sunshine?"

  • 2:24:01

    The check cleared. She already got an industry bag for the cover.

  • 2:24:07

    That's fire. Let's go then. It's crazy because I have two kids. Kids

  • 2:24:13

    older than her but it's like I trained her to be the one that's gonna

  • 2:24:18

    be you know Taking over after me and shit, you know, maybe cuz she just

  • 2:24:22

    you know, my older kids they was around for the prison days when I was

  • 2:24:27

    hustling days and of that shit cuz I told you I had two kids and

  • 2:24:32

    I was a teenager so I grew with them you some saying all my fly

  • 2:24:37

    days and out there they you know I'm saying it was right there so they

  • 2:24:42

    know all of that you know they're definitely suing Westside Pudi for the company what

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    he's talking about that's not going that smooth but you know Pudi Pudi or she

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    know is you know the West Side Gun because she was

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    born since I've been doing this she's on Fly God right?

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    she's on everything can you share with us some of the

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    paranoia involved with Doing what you do and wanting to make it home back to

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    Westside pootie from a father's standpoint today With us losing all the rappers that we're

  • 2:25:20

    losing and that's just having to travel in the means that we have to travel

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    I talk about it all the time like this is the only profession where we

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    talk to a stranger Take the money from a stranger and land in a stranger

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    city and expect to be safe like I'ma be honest. Um, I That's the only

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    thing That actually You know I mean I stay on my P's and Q's But

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    that's the only thing That kind of really be on my mind Out of everything

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    Like yo I gotta make it home To my kids Like So that's why I

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    move The way I move You know what I'm saying And um Honestly, every time

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    I go out, I think of that shit. If it's not a date I don't

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    go by, I don't think of that shit. You know what I'm saying? Especially just

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    still, like I said, still going back to Buffalo. They always say a rabbit get

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    killed in their own city. So when I go home, I'm extra precautious. You know

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    what I'm saying? Like extra, extra. Like even when I'm chilling at other places, when

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    I'm in Buff... You're going to see like 20 people around me before you even

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    see me. You know what I'm saying? Just because I know nobody knows me more

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    than my city. They already know where I'm going to be at. They know who

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    I hang with. They know who I used to fuck with. They know where I

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    eat at. You know what I'm saying? So you go to some other city. slide

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    in the cracks I go on Buffalo I could go anywhere as

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    West Side Gun we the biggest things besides the Buffalo Bills hey

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    congrats to y'all let me attempt to brighten the mood some uh

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    can you give me can you give me something that's romantic to

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    you that isn't romantic at all

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    Or you can give me the last romantic thing you did. I didn't want to

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    put you in that spot. You don't seem like that type of guy, to be

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    honest with you. He R.B. head. Yeah, but he seemed like he had a Tech

  • 2:27:23

    9 on his laptop. It's Anita. It's Anita right here. It's a little different than

  • 2:27:27

    mine. Oh, damn. The last thing I did romantic. Because I see you. It looks

  • 2:27:32

    like you're holding doors open for Armani season when y'all go out. I do. I

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    do. That's the thing. I'm a gangsta and a gentleman. You know what I'm saying?

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    Look at the alley-oop from Joe. Come on. I'm going to be honest, because even

  • 2:27:48

    as short as I used to fuck with, I don't have no hate. Like, man,

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    fuck Wes. I hate that motherfucker guts. Like they be like Yo that's probably One

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    of the realest dudes I ever met See I tell these guys That the same

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    thing about me And girls that I've ever dated And they laugh at me Like

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    yeah right Like I can call them all Right now I've never gotten into a

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    Because you're a liar No I've never gotten Into a physical I've never gotten Into

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    a physical altercation With a woman Like these things Never happen to me But any

  • 2:28:14

    woman I've ever dated, if I see them now, it's that. It's like, yo, what's

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    up? How you been? Then you should be the one that got away is what

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    my point be. If Maul has been so amazed in his whole life, then why

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    they don't want this nigga? No, not that they don't want me. It's just that

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    I don't, I don't sit still long enough man. I don't know how to sit.

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    So you're a little potty not a potty I just rolling stone You can't say

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    that see I gotta check some of your friendships well You can't say we moving

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    cuz he ain't moving he's got a fucking queen that he's been with for his

  • 2:28:47

    whole life Yeah, when do you encourage your dudes to stop moving in that light

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    is what I'm saying cuz more my age He 39. Well, I'm 40. He 39.

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    He should be looking at me. I mean, settle down. Pay for it, bitch. I

  • 2:28:59

    would love to. I would love to. Pay for the BBL. I just didn't find

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    one that was worth it yet. That's all. I would love to. I just haven't

  • 2:29:05

    found one that, you know, that stuck. But how are you going to find him

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    if you keep moving around? No, I'm not. Not as much as I used to

  • 2:29:12

    no more. No, I don't move like that no more. I don't go nowhere no

  • 2:29:15

    more. I don't do that. I'm 39 now, bro. I mean, you can move in

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    the DMs. Nah, can't do that. It's gonna come. Yeah, I'm a fan of that.

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    You know what's crazy? I met her when I was in prison. That's the wild

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    part about it. She's that beautiful, looked that good, had her way before all this

  • 2:29:34

    rap shit, and I met her while I was wearing my tan federal uniform I'm

  • 2:29:39

    not going to prison to find love fuck that it was crazy because you know

  • 2:29:45

    my aunt was coming to visit me I never told this story actually exclusive we

  • 2:29:51

    live for it because nobody I mean literally nobody knows this but you know my

  • 2:29:57

    aunt was visiting me she used to visit her uncle you know I'm saying so

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    you You know, one time we was just all like kind of sitting in the

  • 2:30:06

    same area and it was bathroom break time and I had to go to the

  • 2:30:09

    bathroom and her uncle had to go to the bathroom. So it was just me

  • 2:30:13

    and her. And we was kicking it and you know, talking and all that. So

  • 2:30:16

    when they came back, you know, we all just started kicking it and talking, you

  • 2:30:19

    know what I'm saying? So after the visit, you know, her and my aunt was

  • 2:30:23

    cool. They exchanged numbers and they was just like, yo, you know, girl, next time

  • 2:30:26

    you come up here, you know, I'll come up here with you. So every time

  • 2:30:30

    they start coming up there together, they all kind of sit us in the same

  • 2:30:34

    area. And I put her on the phone list and we started kicking it. This

  • 2:30:37

    might be the next Griselda movie, by the way. And literally when I came out

  • 2:30:41

    of prison, she was at the gate. - That's solid. - Oh yeah, no. -

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    This is a movie, right? - This is exactly, this is the Griselda. - You

  • 2:30:51

    hear that punch? - Yeah, that's solid. - Punch, you hear that? - Punch. -

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    Abso-cuneber. - Kendrick know about a story like that. - Nah, that's good shit. -

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    That is good shit. - But yo, I'm gonna talk about the art. Because when

  • 2:31:07

    I know when I when I found I started following the whole Griselda movement it

  • 2:31:11

    it started with the art for me. That's what I paid attention to most and

  • 2:31:15

    I was like, okay, these dudes are doing some fly shit and then I remember

  • 2:31:19

    I saw one of your early videos and you look like a uptown nigga the

  • 2:31:23

    way you was dressed like you had on some I think Sergio Tichini Nikes or

  • 2:31:27

    some shit you had on and I was like this ain't a buffalo nigga dressing

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    like this and for me that's when I started paying attention because I was like

  • 2:31:36

    if He's this focused on art and fashion. He had the Sergio Tini. I gotta

  • 2:31:41

    check him out. He knows something like you could tell when niggas know certain things.

  • 2:31:45

    Point of reference. No, that's that is that's that's that that makes a lot of

  • 2:31:49

    sense. But then now you have murals around the world. Yeah. And to me a

  • 2:31:53

    lot of you know, mainstream artists don't even have that. So to me, it's a

  • 2:31:57

    special what is the significance of the art to you? Like why is that so

  • 2:32:02

    special? Artists first. I do the art for the project before I even make

  • 2:32:08

    a song for a project. That kind of sets the tone of what I'm

  • 2:32:13

    going to do. How I'm going to approach the music. Art, that's just the

  • 2:32:19

    way I express myself or how I feel or how I'm thinking. And I

  • 2:32:25

    studied different artists and it's just like I already know Once I get an idea,

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    I know who can do what So then I just hit them up and do

  • 2:32:37

    a commission piece and go from there But I did all the art for Griselda

  • 2:32:43

    I did probably 80% of all art for Griselda You know what I'm saying?

  • 2:32:50

    it's just that's what i love to do you know i mean like we was

  • 2:32:54

    we me and my guy victor who i still you know uh pootie did the

  • 2:32:58

    cover but like vic did like the little blood splatter you know what i mean

  • 2:33:02

    like texture but yeah but um we was doing comics in fifth grade you know

  • 2:33:07

    what i'm saying like i still had a mind i tell him what to do

  • 2:33:11

    you know what to draw right i have you know do the dialogue do the

  • 2:33:15

    whole story and he'll just draw it out and we was doing that at 10

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