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Episode 393

The Big Bro

Joe Budden Podcast Episode 393, “The Big Bro,” released November 25, 2020. Although Joe, Rory, Mal and Parks have made it clear they don't believe the Grammy's respect or understand the culture, there are artist that still strive to win the Award (16:58). The guys discuss the nominees, the snubs and the reaction from the music industry (44:00). They also discuss Dave Chappelle's latest special and the importance of his message (1:00:22), Hip-Hop beef's that should end (1:31:17), who can Joe beat in a Verzuz (1:44:40) and an update on HBO's "The Undoing" (potential spoiler alerts) and MORE! Sleeper Picks Joe | Protoje - “In Bloom” (Ft. Lila Iké) Rory | Priya Ragu - “Good Love 2.0” Mal | | JR Writer - “This Is Not New” (Ft. Royce Da 5’9) Parks | Rasheed Chappell - “Rock Bottom” (Ft. Ransom) Full transcript and searchable timestamps below.

The Big Bro

In this episode

  • 16:58Although Joe, Rory, Mal and Parks have made it clear they don't believe the Grammy's respect or understand the…
  • 44:00The guys discuss the nominees, the snubs and the reaction from the music industry
  • 1:00:22They also discuss Dave Chappelle's latest special and the importance of his message
  • 1:31:17Hip-Hop beef's that should end
  • 1:44:40Who can Joe beat in a Verzuz
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Joe Budden Podcast Ep. 393 Transcript

Full transcript of The Big Bro (2:08:48 long). Search it, or click any timestamp to jump to that moment.

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    Alright. GO! No Joe Biden! Ma! This parks!

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    Microphone check, one, two, what is this? No

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    Joe Biden! No Ma! Parks on the boards.

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    Y'all gotta burn! Yes! No, no, no, no,

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    no no no no no no no no

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    no, no, no, Joe Biden! No!

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    What's that? What's that? Microphone check. One,

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    two. What is this? The JBP boys

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    bike the business. $3.92. 393 welcome to episode 393 of the Joe Budden

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    podcast I'm your humble gracious grateful and highly oh my god what a thotty you're

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    supposed to you supposed to let me know that's them all you had it tucked

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    under uh under the champion come on man I call my brother son because he

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    shines like when you're supposed to be my third eye in the back of my

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    head see what's there my bad can you pass this to them please right I'm

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    wondering why you're putting trash in front of my face. I was a little confused.

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    It had me a little fucked up. I had a good race joke right there.

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    I had a good one. There was a couple options. Yeah, that was nice. Rory's

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    still trying to get MVP. He should. Listen, man, I'm here to bring this pod

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    to the next level and carry all of us. Shoot that shit. Shoot that shit.

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    Nah, that's why we're here. Shoot that shit. A little Duncan Robinson? Shoot that shit.

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    No? I love it. I thought that was a good one. Yeah, I love it.

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    All right, y'all already know what time it is. This episode is brought to you

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    by Cash App. Powered by Cash App. Sponsored by Cash App. Enabled by Cash App.

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    Y'all know the vibes. Cash App, thank you. And I hope I don't say anything

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    that ruins our relationship this episode. I'm going to be myself. And they support that,

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    I think. Shout out to them. I think they can support it until they don't.

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    Shout out to Cash App. Now, welcome to episode 393 of the Joe Budden Podcast.

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    I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, and highly favored host, Joe Budden, here with a few

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    of my nearest and dearest. Brother Marlins here with us today. How you feeling? I'm

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    good, bro. How you doing? Real good. Real good. Are those the Jordans that everyone's

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    in a frenzy for in December that you already have? It might be. Hey. I

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    don't even know. I need to revisit that list. I don't even know when shit

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    come out no more, man. I just, you know. What day is it even? I

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    think I read that was the most anticipated sneaker of the year. This is not

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    the most anticipated sneaker of the year. No. This is out already. He's out already,

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    right? I think December. We don't even know. Look, he don't even know. Yo, he

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    just came. He just dropped for y'all. Oh, that song? Y'all finally heard that song?

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    Yeah, I know he would know. You want to raffle? No, I don't do raffles.

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    Stop playing with me, man. Is that offensive to you? Yes. I'm letting you know.

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    Yes. So now you don't have to ask me your friend, you know, I would

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    never intentionally think that I wake up and like hit my phone to try to

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    get sneakers. Okay, I don't do that. Okay, but you're doing all right. I'm good.

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    I'm great. Thank you brother. Parks is here. What's going on, man? Good. Good. How

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    are you doing? I'm good. I'm good. What's today? Today is the Wednesday. So how

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    are you guys this weekend? Anything interesting? It was cool, man. No, I didn't do

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    much. I got a Christmas tree. You got the tree ready? Nice. I got way

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    too big of a tree. That's the best thing about being single. Chop it down

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    yourself? No, but I had to buy a saw to chop it down more. I

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    bought a 12-foot tree, and my ceilings are probably nine feet tall. It feels good

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    to do some man shit every now and then. Yeah. The best thing about being

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    single now is that you don't have to get the tree. Because you have to

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    get the tree. Oh, absolutely. I got a tree anyway. Even when I was single.

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    I like it. Know we talk ourselves into it. Oh, I

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    love the pine smell Sweeping up pine for two months.

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    Oh, I just know so much my Christmas in here

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    now Christmas candles until you see the gift she got

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    you Pajamas more I sleep naked. Yes, more boxers. Wow. The red ones this time.

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    Imagine holidays being for men. That's when you notice how much your girl don't even

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    look at you. You don't even wear boxers. Yeah. At all. And you know my

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    dad gets me boxers and tank tops every year if you've been with me. So

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    why the fuck are you doing that? Because you may need more. That's why as

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    a significant other, you get one ball out Christmas from Joe. for you to match

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    energy. - You gotta set the tone. - You take notes from there. - Oh,

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    1,000, 1,000%. - I like that strategy. - Yeah, I gotta see how they on

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    it. Sorry, the custom chess board isn't doing it anymore. - Yeah, I gotta-- -

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    Oh, gold pieces! I don't play chess. - I have a-- - How's that? -

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    I don't know how to play. - Never did. But Uncle Walter is really hype

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    when he comes over. Hey Joe, anybody with your French plate set? No, nigga. No,

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    we don't. No, I got a stack of thermals over the past decade. Just chilling

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    in my closet every Christmas. It'll be great for under the jacket. I know what

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    thermals do. These ones go under your jeans. I know. One time I tried to

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    freak it, but I couldn't stop. You know what? Just give me a pair of

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    concords. Keep it light. Yeah. No, I can't get you sneakers because then you'll walk

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    out of my life. Oh, my God. Like, you know what? She didn't say that.

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    I'm going to walk out of your life. You're going to have a front row

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    seat. And trust me, when I move, I'm not going to be wearing Concords. No.

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    At all. But shout out to... Shout out to all the great gift givers out

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    there. There. How's that? Men, women, shout out to all of you. Shout out to

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    all the people that may be going through a difficult time. I know the holidays

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    can be tough. Absolutely. This year especially, shit. Yeah, I didn't even think about that

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    added toughness. Man, man. It's already a depressing time of year for a lot of

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    people. Imagine people that already are depressed and may have lost someone or are more

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    depressed because they haven't left the house in eight months. Yeah. Yeah. It's rough. It

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    definitely doesn't feel like The holiday. Yeah, that's why I got treated early. Fuck yeah.

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    Wait, what the fuck are you talking about? Didn't the Dreamville Christmas album, just the

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    LVNR Christmas album just come out? To restore the feeling? How could it not, how

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    could it possibly not feel like the holidays? Snub snub Grammy. Oh no. Yeah, we

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    need a little more. And they tried to, but you just need a little more.

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    We need for Cam. Once Cam put out a Christmas album, then you know. Then

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    I know what? The holiday's here. No? No. My bad. I'm here to treat you.

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    That's not what does it for you? I'm here to treat you. My bad. See,

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    how could you fucking with me? See, see, see, listen. Listen, this could be our

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    year. This could be our year. It's not, man. It's not, man. But it could

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    be our year. It's not, man. I'm chilling. I'm chilling. I'm chilling. Like, I'll be

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    playing with you. I know. You'll be trying to really. No, I'll be chilling, man.

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    I'm just fucking with you. Hey, well, Roy, how you doing, man? I'm taking it

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    day by day. - Everything okay? - This nigga is miserable. - Bro, we try

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    to give us hints like, yo, won't help me. - Day by day, man. That's

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    my strategy. - One day at a time? - Today is the day. - Oh

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    boy, going through it. - No, I went to the dentist. Apparently I grind my

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    teeth when I sleep. I know the things you find out about yourself when you

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    get out of that house, man. I don't have enough fiber. Worry being a sleep

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    person. A regular calm guy like me. I could never imagine that I would run

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    my teeth in. But yeah, then I don't have enough fiber in my diet. So

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    that's yeah, that's that's what that at 30 years old. I feel like I've had

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    more thumbs from a doctor in my ass than a 60 year old man that

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    has a cancer scare at this point. Yeah. Gotta get your fiber. So yeah, I'm

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    violated pretty often by a doctor, and I don't have enough fiber, and I keep

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    taking the pills, the shakes, I eat bread. And he just keeps sticking it up

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    there. Yo, is this nigga dying? No. you gotta get that Metamucil I have it

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    you do I have the pill version you gotta stop eating dairy I think it's

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    the dairy it could be that's such an old your pops or anyone say it's

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    the dairy so all right so now honestly all jokes aside what I get from

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    what you're saying is that your ass region is no longer a sensitive area No,

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    no, no, no. We're just worn out? It's welcoming? It's welcoming? You can... He's

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    got the beef curtains. Pretty much doesn't matter what doctor goes back there. It's

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    all gonna feel the same. It's not Rory with the ass keloid. The ass

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    keloid. You gotta relax, man. You gotta fucking calm down. Rory is disgusting. Rory

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    is disgusting. It's Rory's ass keloid. When, uh... When a chick wants to spice

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    things up and be like, oh, do you like your ass ate? Oh, you're going

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    to have to do much more than that. It's very numb down there. Advertisers, right

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    here is where your product can go in between this riveting content. What's so awkward

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    about it is the doctor can't do it alone by law. There has to be

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    people in the room. Yeah. So not only are you

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    feeling emasculated by having a man stick

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    his fingers in your ass. There's an

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    audience That you have to look at

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    and they follow the party did you

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    give Michelle? Yeah Yo, I don't mean

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    to laugh. Nah, Rory gets the MVP. I'm done. I'm finished. This ain't even up

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    for debate. He's shooting for it. He's been shooting for it, I'm telling you. My

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    asshole took a stab? Look, man. You never look. You would have never thought, huh?

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    Yeah, man. Yeah, treat every song like it could be the one. That's what Theo

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    Sotomayor said. about my ass all right no we're off of your ass now um

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    but yeah everyone get checked it's important yes thank you men especially everyone get fingered

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    yeah am i gonna get checked what if they find something you end up like

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    me taking 10 fiber pills a day sneaking off to the doctor and not telling

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    anyone yo you are really pussy if you take fiber pills

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    And

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    they're

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    good

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    for

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    you

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    they

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    are Oh, now Rory on a fiber diet. Listen,

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    bro, it's... And he only 30. I know, it's hereditary. I've known about this for

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    a while. We're going to get the GoFundMe going for you so you can buy

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    more fiber. I appreciate that. We'll set it at 500K. Yeah, no, it's expensive to

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    take all these shakes. Man, this nigga better go roll around in the grass or

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    something. Look what you're telling him to do. He doesn't have fiber. Go roll around

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    in the grass. I never even thought of it that way. Go roll around in

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    the grass if your fiber is low. If you don't go to Home Depot, eat

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    a plant. By the way, Joe has wondered why for how many years we've been

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    doing this podcast that we come in and he asks, how are you doing? We

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    just say good. Yeah. Because then when you tell him you're doing bad, he laughs.

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    Roll around in the grass. You might have colon cancer, but go roll in the

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    grass. Oh, man. Yo, that was great. That was awesome. E-Rabbit, we're still intro. This

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    is 20 minutes in. E-Rabbit, what's going on, man? You good? Good. Yeah, nigga don't

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    care what I'm talking about. Yeah, Eli, wrap this shit up. Hurry the fuck up,

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    man. Oh, St. Vaughn is here. Rory and his Crohn's disease can wait. Yeah, wrap

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    this shit up. You and Rory's ass. Wrap his ass up and wrap this shit

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    up. Savon is here and Alex the Great is here. Joey knocked over your sippy

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    cup. Oh, that's a cool sippy cup. Dunkin' Donuts? That's also where your jersey should

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    be hung up. That's a big fact. They're not sponsoring us, but yeah. My jersey

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    should be hung up over there. All right, gentlemen. And speaking of which, you need

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    more fun. You drink so much coffee. I know you have the runs at least

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    every other day. I don't. That's too much coffee. I know. I never

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    knew how fast you go to the bathroom if you drink black coffee. Oh

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    yeah. It's almost like instant though. That shit is crazy. The coffee and cig

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    combo is just... Right to it? Right to it. Yeah. Yeah, especially 20 of

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    them. It's a sick wake up. Just roll around the grass, man. Anyways. I'm

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    so happy to woke up breathing today. Let me take away some breath.

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    All right, come on. Where do you want to begin? It's pod time. The big

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    news. What was the big news? The Grammy nods. The Grammy nods. Everyone's favorite time

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    of year. Validation. Who got snubbed, Rory? Give me validation. No, I didn't get snubbed.

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    I didn't make the deadline. No, me either. Yo, that line got to go too.

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    I didn't make the deadline? Yeah, no, no, no. I just missed it. Yeah, no,

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    we didn't submit. I know. I know you didn't. I have no idea what the

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    deadline is. Yeah, the deadline. Album trash. I remember I went to you and I'm

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    like, yo, man, we ain't getting none of that wave. Submit that shit. Oh, all

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    right. We had other things to do that day. Y'all didn't think that was important?

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    No. It's so rough in this industry. Why do people want to do it? Like

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    every interview, I try to get that out of people. Like, yo, what makes you

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    want to do this? It's horrible. The glitter and the sparkly stuff. No, they don't

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    even show that anymore. It's not glamour and glittery. Yeah, everybody looked like they went

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    in right now. The glam and glitz is when we used to have videos played.

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    Where's the glam and glitz now? Yeah. TikTok. And I don't have a TikTok, but...

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    But I do see some of the content creators on Instagram and the creative ways

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    that they're using TikTok as curvy, beautiful adults. I see what you're getting at. And

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    it did make me rethink. Joe just spent his weekend under the Meg body hashtag.

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    Body, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy. That's what you was doing all weekend? No. You

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    was looking at ass. I didn't even know that that was a thing. Yaddy, yaddy,

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    yaddy, yaddy. Oh, my God, that's shaking ass. Oh, that's what JT meant when she

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    posted that picture. Hmm. That's a good picture. She did it again. Yeah, I followed.

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    Oh, you didn't before? No. They got the follow out of you? Yeah. So was

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    that a challenge? She's a tremendous artist. She is. The Adi Adi Adi challenge? The

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    body challenge, yeah. Because she does a dance in the video. So it's not a

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    thing. Well, you want to demonstrate the dance? Let me see. No, I don't want

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    to demonstrate. This is where you're screaming. Let me see what they're doing. No, it's

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    right here. It's right there on the screen. But you can do that. Let me

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    see. No, I can't do that. Definitely not doing that. You didn't do that in

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    choir? No. I promise you, that move was never in our choreography at all. It's

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    a good move. I see what's going on here. I see what's happening. Body was

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    one of the songs I liked from that album. It should be a single. It's

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    definitely a single. It looks like a really good video. They was trying to kill

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    me. A small group of people were trying to kill me on the internet for

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    Apparently saying that I couldn't critique Meg's album because I was protecting her mental health.

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    You people on the internet are idiots, and I say it all the time. Shut

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    the fuck up. Stop attempting to understand what I'm saying if you're stupid. I'm never

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    talking to the stupid people. Thank you for saying that. There are a lot of

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    stupid people on the internet. I clearly said here and said that album is mid.

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    That was my critique. But this body shit now, we'll go home and search this

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    hashtag. Yeah, damn, man. I mean, for research purposes, maybe a challenge that you would

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    think. You just want to keep gauging what the album's doing. You have to understand

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    what, you know, the new social. Rattle the snake to that one. You can just

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    watch the video. Just relax. Just relax. You don't have to assault yourself all the

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    time. Fucking relax, man. Joby ready to assault himself. Look how you describe it. I

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    don't describe it that way. It's consensual with you? So listen, shut up, Roy. So

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    back to Grammy noms. Yeah. Or did we even start that? We did, right? Sort

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    of, but not really. All right, well, let's start Grammy noms. Okay. Let's see it

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    scream in. Album of the year. Whoa, why you got us here? You want

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    to start there? I don't want to start there. Album of the year. Give me

  • 17:23

    right to the sauce. Album of the year. I'm not here to play. Let's go,

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    Rory. Jhene, Black Pumas, Coldplay, and Jacob Collar. Wait, what? I'm just reading off Variety.com.

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    Shout out to Variety.com. Maybe. They didn't do this. The Grammys? No, they don't do

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    the Grammys, but they do post who gets nominated. No, but I'm saying... Anyway, Jene

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    and who? D Smoke? The Black Pumas. No, we're going to get to

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    that later. Coldplay and Jacob Collar. I believe I'm pronouncing that correctly. I

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    don't know who that is. Jacob Collier. And then going on, Haim. Haim,

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    I think. Dua Lipa. I don't understand why I can never pronounce artists'

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    names anymore. Post Malone. Hey, your guy. And Taylor Swift. I see what's

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    happening. I see what's great happening. What? The old Taylor. Taylor's re-recording all that music.

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    That Black Pumas album came out last year, by the way. It was nominated last

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    year. Yeah, but it was submitted this year. Yeah, but it didn't win. Oh, it's

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    a deluxe that came out last week, so they snuck it back in. Wait, you

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    can win off deluxes? Apparently. You gotta see the loopholes, bro. So why can't Outkast,

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    Equipment, and Ivy here? That's a good question. That would win this category. It would.

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    It wasn't a good enough album. Swift gave us something on folklore. I'm kidding, by

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    the way. I'm kidding. That's a joke. Um, okay, Scream Man, we can go to

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    the next category, you know. Please don't let me rely on Rory's reading ability. Thanks,

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    man. You want to do Song of the Year next? Sure. That's fine, since that's

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    where he has it. Black Parade, Beyonce, Roddy Ricch, The Box, Cardigan, Circles, Don't Start

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    Now, Everything I Wanted, I Can't Breathe, If the World Was Ending. The Box. The

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    Box should win that. Should win that. It was, I think, the most successful single

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    of the year. Mm-hmm. But they'll probably figure a way to give it to Taylor

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    Swift or somebody. Yeah, she's re-recording all of that, so... Joe, you want to hit

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    us with best new artist? No. D Smoke's there for you. I don't. I don't

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    care about any of this. But, fuck it, I guess we have to pod. Best

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    new artist. In Greed and Dress. Phoebe Bridgers. Phoebe. Hilarious name. Phoebe Bridgers. Chica. Or

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    Chica. I like Chica. See, it's tough. Noah Cyrus. D Smoke. Doja Cat. Kaytranada. Can

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    we get to the D Smoke stimulus package yet? Oh, and Megan Thee Stallion.

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    what are you trying to add some suspense to my reading on screen man i

  • 19:57

    want to see that prior to make sure with that one actually i have no

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    idea who should win any of this stuff we can see and i don't want

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    to just because i'm not familiar with everybody on on here so i don't know

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    well that's that's why meg should probably win yeah but you know they like to

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    do the eclectic winner sometimes the weird winner that oh now you're going to learn

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    from us This is what you should be listening to best R&B performance nominees

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    lightning and thunder generic Oh featuring John Legend black parade by Beyonce all I

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    need Jacob Collier Goat head Brittany Howard see me Emily King Okay, best traditional

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    R&B performance. What's what does that mean? I don't know traditional This means that

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    this is how it's traditionally done. Okay, so And this is The Baylor

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    Project. Thank you for explaining that better. Chloe and Holly. Mikael Kilgore, Let Me

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    Go. Letta Zai, Letta Z. Letta Z, anything for you. And Yeba. Shout out

  • 20:57

    to Yeba. Distance. I like Yeba a lot. I don't know anything about you.

  • 21:03

    Why do I do a music podcast? I don't know. Best R&B song. Robert

  • 21:09

    Glass for Her, Better Than I Imagine, Black Parade, Beyonce, Collide,

  • 21:15

    Oh, Stacey Barth is on there. Sam Brash. Can you just tell me who the

  • 21:20

    actual artist is? Not all the credits. Do it, Chloe and Haley, and then slow

  • 21:25

    down. Skip Marley and her. We don't care about this, man. Get to the good

  • 21:30

    stuff. I'm not sitting here to read all of this bullshit. Y'all can watch the

  • 21:35

    Grammys on your own. Best R&B album. Here we go. Meat and Potatoes. Happy to

  • 21:40

    be here. Aunt Clemens. Take time. Wait. Is it Jivion or Givion? It's Givion. Givion.

  • 21:45

    Take time. Givion. Luke James, To Feel Love, John Legend, Bigger Love, Gregory Porter, All

  • 21:50

    Rise. Again, I don't know who should win. I'm not familiar with all these songs.

  • 21:55

    The fact that Summer Walker over it is not in Best R&B Album is offensive.

  • 22:00

    Did they submit? Ask Moe. I don't know. He was in Toronto. Nah, they all

  • 22:05

    kept it at the border too long. They held the album? Yeah, they held the

  • 22:10

    album at the border. uh let's get to best rap album let's not

  • 22:16

    understand this performance whatever great they lucky that she's too busy being pregnant and in

  • 22:21

    love i feel like she would address that i still think even if it was

  • 22:26

    like i don't know everything's about summer says you know she creates music puts it

  • 22:31

    out and how would people receive what they receive i don't think she pays attention

  • 22:36

    to what the this performance being accolades and like that when you performed it so

  • 22:41

    it's just like how well they rapped on that song yeah okay that's what it

  • 22:47

    is that's what that was i wouldn't describe it as exceptional rapping but carry on

  • 22:52

    yeah uh yeah back back to the the real best rap album and we can

  • 22:57

    skip all the other categories uh d smoke black habits um freddie gibbs he said

  • 23:02

    d smoke black habits is that what he says rap album of the year uh

  • 23:07

    huh parks he signed to netflix Huh? Freddie Gibbs, Alchemist Alfredo, Jay Electronica,

  • 23:13

    and Jay-Z, A Written Testimony, Nas, King Disease, Royce the Five and Nine, The Allegory.

  • 23:19

    I love the last four. Okay, does this mean, does JLX nomination mean that I

  • 23:24

    have to walk back my hate? No. No. Alright, awesome. No. But that's family. He

  • 23:29

    listens, so we should say that. No. No, congratulations. I'm not here to hate. No,

  • 23:33

    no. I'm not here to hate. Big congrats to Royce and Freddie and Al. That's

  • 23:38

    amazing. Yeah, that's big. And Nas. And Nas, absolutely. I kind of hope they're setting,

  • 23:42

    just my personal shit, I hope they're setting this up for Nas to finally get

  • 23:46

    a Grammy. Yeah. Like, they've snubbed him too long. Give him a Grammy. I don't

  • 23:51

    even care what it's for. And the album was dope. That would be nice. More

  • 23:55

    importantly. I think Royce is my favorite out of that list. Or maybe Freddie Gibbs,

  • 23:59

    though. Those would be my favorites. Yeah, Alfredo Price is the most replay value. Give

  • 24:03

    me the snubs. Who do you think deserves to be here? And who would you

  • 24:07

    take away? I would take the best rap album? Yeah. I would take D Smoke.

  • 24:11

    Because Lil Baby should be here. Lil Baby. Roddy Ricch. Roddy Ricch should be here.

  • 24:15

    Yeah. I think Pop Smoke's album. Yeah. One of them. I think he has two

  • 24:19

    in this cycle. the the main one pop smoke should have got a look i

  • 24:24

    feel like i think that's one of those that'll get nominated next year i mean

  • 24:28

    they might not i don't know what to hold up the stars ain't from that

  • 24:32

    should be that should be nominated i feel yeah i would like to see pop

  • 24:36

    Nominated. I thought that album deserved it. I agree. Rest in peace, Pop Smoke. Absolutely.

  • 24:40

    Did you text Stephen Victor that? No, I did not text Stephen Victor that. You,

  • 24:45

    I'm sure, FaceTimed him. Did you text Webstar? No, they just hit him on the

  • 24:49

    chatty house. Did you text Webstar? Why would I text Webstar? Just to say what's

  • 24:54

    up? Say hi. Yeah, nigga. Oh, no, I didn't. Maybe I should check in on

  • 24:58

    him. I did. What's up, big bro? He had COVID. If Webstar is Rory's big

  • 25:02

    bro, don't do that, man. Don't do that to Rory. I ignore a lot of...

  • 25:08

    I am an only child, Joe. I do not have a big

  • 25:14

    bro. y'all have made big bro so offensive it is it's but it shouldn't be

  • 25:19

    right unless it's your real big brother then that is not true and we hate

  • 25:23

    our big brothers not everybody nobody's big bro and their actual big brother we're trying

  • 25:28

    to fight our big brother you're the only one that hates your big brother you

  • 25:32

    never try to fight none of your brothers no who did you fight at the

  • 25:36

    family reunion cousins same no you fought your closest cousin before Not my closest, no.

  • 25:41

    Who did you fight at the family reunion, Rory? I definitely fought my closest cousins

  • 25:44

    up until adults. Not my closest, but the other cousins that I'd be like, I

  • 25:48

    don't even remember how we got on this now. Big bros. And you only really

  • 25:52

    fight your cousins because your moms and your aunts don't get along. Rory has big

  • 25:55

    bros out there somewhere. I'm not going to spend money on a PI to locate

  • 25:59

    them. But there has to be a big bro out there somewhere. What's your definition

  • 26:02

    of big bro? i want to go i want to no see because stop because

  • 26:07

    have made it funny now and now men can't be vulnerable yeah yeah watch it

  • 26:10

    watch him no because it's funny when someone you don't know who's younger than you

  • 26:14

    says what's up big bro no it's more fun when you do know but that's

  • 26:18

    who is older than you but that's the joke unless it's one of the young

  • 26:22

    boys that'll kill you that's a joke but it happens Yeah. So, yeah, do I

  • 26:27

    have... So what's your OG? Do I have older gentlemen that I look up to?

  • 26:31

    See, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look. That's my problem with

  • 26:35

    you dudes. It's just semantics. Explain them to me. The OG is usually like... Someone

  • 26:40

    you learn from. Someone a little, usually more experienced, probably more traveled to give you

  • 26:44

    some advice to help you in your journey, right? Yeah, sure. Why is that not

  • 26:48

    a big bro as well? Because big bro isn't quite the OG status. Then tell

  • 26:51

    me what a big bro is. Now, if you have a real bigger brother, then

  • 26:55

    yeah. No, I don't care about your family. I'm trying to get hip hop involved.

  • 26:59

    I'm not calling some nigga that's just older than me my big bro. Well, if

  • 27:03

    he guided you. I'm asking what is the difference in what I just asked. Not

  • 27:07

    y'all personal take on big bro-ing somebody. I can only talk from personal. All right,

  • 27:10

    Moe. You don't have a big bro. You don't have any bros. I have big

  • 27:13

    brothers. I have real big brothers. They're my brothers. And they're big bro. Yeah, and

  • 27:17

    they're older than me. I'm the youngest. And they were Big's brother. Yeah. Can I

  • 27:20

    get a serious answer to my question, please, so I can be enlightened? I think

  • 27:23

    the OG is older than the big bro. Big bro, I don't

  • 27:29

    think there's much difference Steven Victor Lenny

  • 27:34

    s I could see that that's where

  • 27:40

    he's big bro Lenny. Yeah, I could

  • 27:45

    see Brenner being Better He's older than you, right? Well, yeah, much older

  • 27:51

    than me. Shaw Money is Rory's big bro. I would put Shaw in a big

  • 27:55

    bro category. What do you know? We found a big bro. See? There's nothing wrong

  • 27:59

    with that. Why wouldn't Shaw be OG? Yeah, I think Shaw would be more OG

  • 28:03

    than you. I'm done with y'all. I think it's about the same. Y'all are so

  • 28:07

    prideful. Thank you, Rory. Thank you, Rory. Come back. Fuck with me. I'm not trying

  • 28:11

    to insult you. I said Benner because Benner is a white man. We have found

  • 28:16

    the difference. The demand criteria is nuts. Shaw Money is a brother, but he's

  • 28:22

    older than you. He's not your real brother. He's an OG. Can we get

  • 28:27

    back to the Grammys, please? I suppose. So you didn't call Stephen Victor? No.

  • 28:33

    The fact that no... female artists were nominated for R&B album and he is a

  • 28:39

    little funny though. Who's Park's big bro? What's one of the famous Mixer niggas? Greg

  • 28:44

    Sackleroy? Yeah. The famous. Oh, yeah. Greg Sackleroy did this one. The famous Greg Sackleroy.

  • 28:50

    I don't think I called you Greg Sackleroy. Greg Sackleroy, if you didn't know anything

  • 28:55

    about him, his one project is a standalone legacy act. Standalone. Can't put any albums

  • 29:00

    next to that one. Next to Greg Sackleroy shit. Back to the Grammy noms. Y'all

  • 29:06

    were saying it is amazing that no women are nominated for the best R&B album.

  • 29:12

    Is that a fact? Yes, that's a fact. Let's look. Where's my phone? Let's call

  • 29:17

    Justice. Yeah, no. No women. Yeah, I can't believe Summer Walker. Brandy's album, I think

  • 29:23

    you could talk about that one in there. We were saying that Snow was not

  • 29:28

    in this... Cycle of time, right? Summer made the cycle of time? Yes. She

  • 29:34

    should definitely be. She had the best R&B album. She had the best R&B

  • 29:40

    album. Tiana, for sure, had a really good... Summer had the best R&B album.

  • 29:45

    I agree. Justice, this is Joe Budden and the gang from the J.B.P. My

  • 29:51

    boys, without doubt. We love you and we miss you. Let's start with that.

  • 29:57

    How are you? um man life was beautiful to this morning bro crazy

  • 30:02

    is everything okay yeah bro these grammy's okay good as long as that is what

  • 30:07

    we were talking about that is bad so you so you feel the heat from

  • 30:12

    some of that too huh this is so inaccurate bro like like i'm so livid

  • 30:17

    i get mad talking about it bro it doesn't make any sense but tell me

  • 30:22

    tell me why we still get angry let me let me hear it i know

  • 30:27

    you do because you speak from a different position Let me tell you why I

  • 30:33

    still get angry. Why I still get angry is because from an executive position, bro,

  • 30:37

    like, at the end of the day, yes, it's not for us. It's never been

  • 30:41

    for us. But, bro, it's still one of those things, like, I still want to

  • 30:45

    compete at the highest level. And at the end of the day, in order for

  • 30:49

    our music to still always cut through, we got to go and smack these niggas

  • 30:54

    up and show that our culture is really, like, the most important thing. And, like,

  • 30:58

    nigga, like, we need that recognition, bro. Like, it doesn't make sense. So they try

  • 31:02

    to send it doesn't make sense bro. I don't fuck with it And it's just

  • 31:05

    it's an emotional thing like it means a lot for some reason, you know, then

  • 31:08

    like I don't know why I And it means a lot maybe because of what

  • 31:13

    it would do for the business if Summer were nominated, even if she didn't win.

  • 31:18

    Not only that. Having that in front of your name, Grammy nominated or Grammy winning,

  • 31:23

    it hires your price. But it's really more disrespectful when she had the best R&B

  • 31:28

    album of the year. By far had the best R&B album of the year. Every

  • 31:33

    single category, my nigga, she dominated. She was up for every critics list. every fucking

  • 31:37

    billboard prediction, every block prediction, fuck all that. The music was better. She put up

  • 31:43

    the fucking numbers. She culturally impacted. Nigga, it doesn't make any sense. And like, to

  • 31:48

    even take the conversation away from you again, like, let's just be accurate. Like, The

  • 31:53

    Weeknd had the biggest fucking year of his life, nigga. Mm-hmm. Little baby little baby

  • 31:59

    has had the most impactful fucking rap career since fucking Drake his trajectory is Doesn't

  • 32:03

    make sense his trajectory is some shit. We haven't seen before this is not accurate,

  • 32:08

    bro It doesn't make sense, bro. It just doesn't damn and it's not so I

  • 32:13

    hear really awesome It's not so I hear your voice just that I'm that I

  • 32:17

    I I feel the way man because I'm disconnected from it It doesn't really affect

  • 32:22

    me the way but when I hear you and that passion and hunger and just

  • 32:27

    the outright knowing when something is wrong Yeah, man, I get it. Oh, bro. Like

  • 32:31

    I I mean I've talked I called me I made every single call this morning

  • 32:36

    like you know like when you go through down the fucking checklist of things that

  • 32:40

    you need for the Grammys, bro, bro What makes this shit worse is, like, fuck

  • 32:45

    the business and, like, and raising your price, bro. From an artist's perspective, bro, it's

  • 32:49

    hard enough to get someone to believe in, you know, like, trying to do things

  • 32:53

    that, you know, appease the industry. That in itself is a fucking challenge, right? And

  • 32:57

    when you finally get an artist to do the things that they need to do,

  • 33:02

    quote, unquote, for the Grammys... Bro, like, to get Summer to move, nigga, it costs

  • 33:06

    money. We have done certain shit just to appease these niggas for free, and then

  • 33:10

    you still get the fucking slap, bro. That's what I'm saying. Like, there's an agenda.

  • 33:14

    There's somebody in there that's really saying, yo, we are not going to give this

  • 33:18

    girl something for a reason. I don't know what that reason is. Granted, Summer be

  • 33:22

    on a lot of bullshit, but it doesn't matter. It doesn't take away from the

  • 33:26

    fucking music. Is it about the music or not? Yeah. Well, she definitely has the

  • 33:30

    best R&B album of the year. Well, listen, yeah, that... Not that it means anything

  • 33:35

    to you, but we think she should be nominated. No, not nominated. Win. Yeah, we

  • 33:39

    think she should win. Yeah. Damn, man. And it's fucked up because I really was

  • 33:44

    calling to tease you because now that Summer's pregnant, I don't think we get an

  • 33:49

    album. But this Grammy nom is off. This takes precedence. So I'm not going to

  • 33:54

    tease you today. No, we're still working, bro. Yeah, I know. I know that's what

  • 33:59

    you guys say when they get pregnant. She's still in the studio she's working

  • 34:04

    yeah, no she's a workhorse You know they do that I'll say work

  • 34:10

    on my line though of course just knows they do it I

  • 34:17

    Nah, nah, they all do that, but fuck, man, this shit, bro, this shit really

  • 34:21

    has gut in my spirit, bro. Like, I'm not even gonna hold you, bro, like,

  • 34:25

    not just her, bro, like, everybody else involved, you know, like, all the fucking contributors,

  • 34:30

    you know what I'm saying? Like, bro. But how is she feeling? Yeah, that was

  • 34:34

    my next question. How's she doing? We can't afford for her to feel the way.

  • 34:39

    No, I mean, you know someone's difference. She was just like bro like I can't

  • 34:42

    believe you actually even like care She's like bro. I don't suck dick and that's

  • 34:46

    they were never gonna give me anything So I don't know why you care so

  • 34:50

    much. That's that's her take the next album about to be super crazy now Yeah,

  • 34:54

    and in that third album when she leaves dude. Oh my god. I'll say that

  • 34:57

    look what you put in the I'm just saying if it happens alright, okay God

  • 35:01

    forbid God forbid have a child come no God forbid God forbid. Oh, yeah, I

  • 35:05

    don't know. I mean, how do y'all feel about about? Mean let's take the the

  • 35:09

    bias the bias that's of my fucking tone like like no no no summer summer

  • 35:13

    station the weekend conversation No, summer absolutely deserved to be nominated, but I think her

  • 35:18

    album was the best on the album to yet a little baby for sure Rap

  • 35:22

    album of the year they I like a lot of it I like you know

  • 35:26

    they showed a lot of love to underground hip-hop stuff, so I love it in

  • 35:30

    lyricists, but there you know there's a couple like How? Yeah. How is this

  • 35:36

    not here? It just shows the politics. You know how we feel about it. I'm

  • 35:42

    trying to hide the politics. Rory, I'll be with you, but this doesn't make sense.

  • 35:47

    Politically, bro, to not fucking give The Weeknd a fucking nod, politically doesn't make sense.

  • 35:53

    Oh, no, I'm saying there's some politics on why. Don't know what they are, but

  • 35:58

    there's no reason he shouldn't be up there So it's some it's clearly an issue

  • 36:03

    between the Grammy board and the weekend or his team or his camp or his

  • 36:07

    label or something Cuz that's a politic bro winning. I don't know I don't know

  • 36:11

    what that issue is, but there has to be one is he not nominated for

  • 36:15

    anything. No, I don't see I don't think And whatever that was was number one

  • 36:20

    for fucking six months. I No offense fucking fucking these

  • 36:25

    smoke money. They're like come on I love

  • 36:30

    I love these smoke. I love these smoke.

  • 36:36

    I think he's a fucking talented artist but

  • 36:41

    like Roddy Ricch had the fucking I Yeah. Summer rocking. I'm

  • 36:47

    with you. We agree. We agree on that. Yeah. We agree on that. Yeah. Well,

  • 36:50

    D Smoke had Netflix rocking. Take that, bitch. I mean, if they would have had

  • 36:54

    a best performance in a TV show, Deespo would be here. Listen, we are not

  • 36:58

    carrying on this Grammy conversation for this long. We know what time it is. We

  • 37:01

    see it every year. Kanye pissed on the Grammy. Y'all got mad at him. I

  • 37:05

    didn't. Listen, what do you want me to do? Drake eats cereal out the Grammy

  • 37:08

    or whatever the cool kids are doing. They're telling you what they think about the

  • 37:12

    Grammy. So every year, it's like the freshman cover for XXL. I'm not doing this

  • 37:16

    every time it comes out. Hey, what are they doing? We know what they're doing.

  • 37:19

    And if they're not doing that, then they're pandering to what they should be doing.

  • 37:23

    They don't tell me that they're actually going to do what the fuck they should

  • 37:27

    be doing. Sorry that they toy with our emotions this way, but there's even a

  • 37:31

    business in that. So I'm not investing in it. I feel for you that you're

  • 37:35

    investing in it, but I don't give a fuck about this. Hey, Joe, all I

  • 37:39

    got to say is that We got us we got to pick one award show

  • 37:43

    next year. I'm getting all my niggas We're going to the Soul Train Awards and

  • 37:46

    we gonna make this shit hot every single artist We're gonna fucking plan a weekend

  • 37:50

    out. We're gonna fucking do the fucking rock nation brunch at the Soul Train Awards

  • 37:54

    nigga We're doing our shit, bro. We got to make this shit hot like the

  • 37:57

    Source Awards again, bro. Cause Nah, I think that's a really good idea. Nah, I'm

  • 38:01

    calling Puff and Ho right now. Fuck that. You give me hype. Yeah, bro, cause

  • 38:05

    These niggas can't keep disrespecting us, bro. Even the year that whole, they had this

  • 38:10

    nigga sit up close and they told that nigga, nah. Like, come on, bro. 15

  • 38:15

    times? Nah, bro. Nah, bro. Nah, we not watching this shit. We not showing up.

  • 38:20

    I'm not buying no more tickets to that shit. Done. Well, all right. Congrats to

  • 38:24

    all my niggas that did get nominated, though. Yes. Shout out to the people that

  • 38:29

    did get nominated. Just we'll call you when we're not recording, bro. We love you.

  • 38:35

    Love y'all. Bye. Peace. That's how you know he feel the way he said bye.

  • 38:41

    Yeah, my guy. He said, yo, love y'all. Bye. Goodbye. He said bye-bye.

  • 38:47

    Bye-bye You going through it when you say bye-bye Absolutely. Oh man, I feel bad

  • 38:52

    now. Yeah Well, they got so they'll be just fine. But yeah, I feel bad

  • 38:57

    too I understand what he said it can affect you and if it don't affect

  • 39:01

    you it could affect your team like you feel like your team y'all work so

  • 39:06

    hard even if the artists don't care cuz you condition yourself and To not care

  • 39:10

    or expect the worst but your team might feel slighted like that's a lot of

  • 39:14

    fuck shit that goes on it Yeah, a lot of work and from look insane

  • 39:18

    from a business perspective Yeah, it's a lot of value to your brand when do

  • 39:22

    you have that next to it? This is P from quality control saying whoever's making

  • 39:26

    the decisions at the Grammys you all disconnected like a motherfucker You don't speak for

  • 39:30

    our culture. Congrats to all the nominees Hashtag my turn album of the year like

  • 39:34

    imagine how he feels busting his ass investing his money all this shit into little

  • 39:37

    baby and To have the best year ever and then this happened. Like, I get

  • 39:42

    it. Nikki chimes in, never forget the Grammys didn't give me my best new artist

  • 39:47

    award when I had seven songs simultaneously charting on Billboard and a bigger first week

  • 39:51

    than any female rapper in the last decade. Went on to inspire an entire generation.

  • 39:56

    They gave it to the white man Bon Iver. Hashtag Pink Friday. She is not

  • 40:00

    wrong at all. I remember that one too. I do remember the Jay-Z Grammy shit

  • 40:05

    that Justice spoke about. Like, we've seen this a bunch. Yeah. Why do we expect

  • 40:10

    these people to do things differently is beyond me. So with Kendrick early in his

  • 40:14

    career, this isn't anything new. And even the Biebs is upset. Wait, what did the

  • 40:19

    Biebs say? He said to the Grammys, I'm flattered to be acknowledged and appreciated for

  • 40:24

    my artistry. I'm very meticulous and intentional about my music. With that being said, I

  • 40:28

    set out to make an R&B album. Changes was and is an R&B album. It

  • 40:33

    is not being acknowledged as an R&B album, which is very strange to me. Not

  • 40:37

    strange to me, JB. Nor do I. Yeah. I grew up admiring R&B music and

  • 40:41

    wished to make a project that would embody that sound. For this not to be

  • 40:46

    put into that category feels weird, considering from the chords to the melodies to the

  • 40:50

    vocal style all the way down to the hip-hop drums that were chosen. It is

  • 40:55

    undeniably, unmistakably an R&B album. To be clear, I absolutely love pop music and it

  • 41:00

    just wasn't what I set out to make this time around. My gratitude for feeling

  • 41:05

    respected for my work remains and I'm honored to be nominated either way. That was

  • 41:10

    very well put. Nice work, Biebs. Yeah. Should be well put when you white. A

  • 41:16

    black dude could say that same polite message and it's going to be, oh, he's

  • 41:21

    salty. I don't know. He's salty as well, but just as well said. Yeah. He

  • 41:26

    had enough features on his album to be R&B. Had he been in the R&B

  • 41:31

    album of the year category, I would have been like, no. But that shouldn't pop.

  • 41:36

    Because of who he is or because of the sound of the album? Who he

  • 41:39

    is. Who he is, number one. And it was more of an R&B. I see

  • 41:43

    what he's saying from that album. If Taylor Swift puts out a rap album this

  • 41:47

    year, you're going to call it a rap album? Yeah, if she's rapping on it?

  • 41:51

    Yeah. Then why wouldn't it be a rap album? Because it's her. If the music

  • 41:56

    is hip-hop drums and melodies and samples and she's rapping, that's a rap album. I

  • 42:02

    wouldn't say she's a rapper, but it's a rap album. If Scooter Braun has the

  • 42:07

    rights to Taylor Swift, the MC. MC Swifty? That's good. Another big waiver wire mistake

  • 42:13

    I made this year. Now that my fantasy season is down the drain, all my

  • 42:18

    waiver wire mistakes are highlighted right in front of my eyes. That D. Swift, the

  • 42:24

    running back from Detroit. I saw him there. Didn't do it. Look at me now.

  • 42:29

    Look at me now. No artist development. Four and seven. Four and seven. That's the

  • 42:34

    same record as the Giants, right? What are the Giants? Three and eight? Three. That's

  • 42:39

    somewhere there. I don't know. Not good. Not good. Right on, Brian. I know. um

  • 42:44

    so yeah man did we say west side paris because i i thought that should

  • 42:48

    have been that should have been one of the griselda albums i think that one

  • 42:52

    specifically fam we are now 50 minutes in it's over okay it's over we don't

  • 42:56

    care i think all of law should be here too joe i just don't think

  • 43:01

    it made this nice submitted too late uh i didn't submit rory my bad that's

  • 43:05

    the only reason i didn't win i like how you boycott yeah yeah yeah so

  • 43:09

    now i'm just not showing up no more All right. Just quickly, quickly, because they

  • 43:14

    do do comedy albums and all that shit for Grammys, right? Yeah. I don't understand

  • 43:19

    how podcasts are not. It's a recorded thing. I think that's... Wait, they made up

  • 43:24

    a new category, Best Melodic Rapper. We breathed right over that one. Best Melodic Rapper?

  • 43:29

    Yeah, that should be in there. Rap is melodic. I'm not mad at that. No,

  • 43:34

    we spoke about this one. Oh, we didn't. On air, we didn't. But yeah, my

  • 43:39

    pick for this would probably be Rockstar. You're just going to pick Rockstar for everything,

  • 43:44

    huh? That's a big fucking record. Roddy twice. And you relate to all the rock

  • 43:50

    stars. DaBaby, St. John. Post Below. You. Right there. See where Maul at? Right there.

  • 43:55

    See where Maul at. You got reflectors on your sweats. You might be a rock

  • 44:01

    star now. He wants to jog at night. Maul is the hippest dressing single dude

  • 44:06

    I've ever seen, man. This nigga really does it for himself. I do it for

  • 44:12

    the people, too. Oh, not for the people, huh? My bad. Shut up, LeBron. Yeah.

  • 44:18

    Best melodic dresser. Hey, Rory. Relax, all right? Rockstar probably won that. And podcasts should

  • 44:24

    be in this because it is a recorded platform. Agreed. It's not a streamed radio

  • 44:30

    thing. This is recorded the same way anything else is. Listen, we got the BET

  • 44:36

    Awards. But I understand. Give it to the Breakfast Club. Let me save myself. Yeah.

  • 44:42

    NPR are one now for sure. Yeah. Y'all keep shitting on people that probably really

  • 44:47

    love y'all. I love NPR. Who am I shitting on? NPR. I love NPR. Yeah,

  • 44:53

    listen to NPR. Look at my face. I don't know. This is a person who

  • 44:58

    listens to NPR. I don't know if Snow's album. I think she missed the cycle.

  • 45:04

    She didn't submit? Yeah, she missed it. Didn't submit. All right, well, that's Grammy. It's

  • 45:10

    Grammys for you. What's next? So same old shit, basically. But there was

  • 45:15

    some good nominations. Oh, Saint is nominated for Roses. Yeah, like a Best International Remix

  • 45:20

    or something very specific. Yeah, I think he should win that one. That Roses remix

  • 45:25

    was huge. Alright, so... So Grammy night, damn right, you're going to get dressed up,

  • 45:31

    right, Moe? No, Rory, I will not. I will have on pajamas. Okay. Not getting

  • 45:36

    dressed up at home, no. It's not Grammy night, damn right? No, not at all.

  • 45:41

    Not even close. But what would you wear? Who's this broad? That's Dua Lipa. That's

  • 45:47

    Dua Lipa. Come on, everybody knows Dua Lipa. No Dua. I wasn't looking there.

  • 45:53

    Exactly. Exactly. Well played, big bro. Exactly. Listen, y'all pussy so my. The AMAs

  • 45:58

    look like they got their categories right somewhat. What is the AMAs? And what

  • 46:04

    is with more support of the whites? No, it's the AMAs, the whites. I've

  • 46:10

    never watched it. I don't know who the AMA is. some for Americans

  • 46:16

    it's the American Music Awards you guys and it aired a few nights ago no

  • 46:20

    I'm aware of that I just don't know who like the committee the committee it's

  • 46:25

    uh it's the Americans it's the same people that think there's fraud in the election

  • 46:29

    same committee they kind of the votes twice yeah it's for the Americans ahead Starting

  • 46:35

    I didn't see this though. Neither haven't watched a amazing. I'm just

  • 46:41

    announcing winners artists of the year Taylor Swift Okay, new artists of

  • 46:47

    the year Doja Cat collaboration of the year Dan and Shay with

  • 46:52

    Justin Bieber Favorite social artists BTS love behind the scene favorite music

  • 46:58

    video Taylor Swift favorite male artists favorite female artists Taylor Swift Taylor

  • 47:04

    Swift Favorite album? Harry Styles. Oh, you missed that favorite

  • 47:10

    duo or group. BTS won again. BTS. Favorite song? Taylor Swift.

  • 47:16

    Dupa Lupa. That was... That was a big controversy amongst the AMA crowd. That

  • 47:22

    was Dua Lipa. Wait, I can't see. Don't start now. I can't see. Where'd it

  • 47:27

    go? Oh, I'm sorry. Dua Lipa. The I next to the L makes it look

  • 47:32

    like. No, no. Before E except after C. Dua Lipa. Don't start now. Favorite male

  • 47:37

    artist. Kane Brown. that's country music oh favorite listen man it's american

  • 47:43

    it's american that's american check this out kane kane brown and um hey

  • 47:49

    you want to know what's going on at the amas you can google

  • 47:55

    it wop one favorite hip-hop song wait fetty wop is back on the

  • 48:00

    no no no cardi b and megan's wop favorite album roddy rich look

  • 48:06

    at that see oh yeah another rory ox moment here what you got

  • 48:12

    for us getting into my heritage man

  • 48:18

    This is a sick song. What is happening? This is a sick ass song. This

  • 48:22

    is a song you hear when you walk in that gas station on I-95. This

  • 48:26

    is when you're smoking like fake name brand cigarettes outside of the gas station in

  • 48:30

    rural America. I just typed in proud to be an American. Roy, can you turn

  • 48:34

    this off? Please. You gotta drink Mountain Dew when you listen to that. Don't ever

  • 48:38

    play a song again. Oh, Dick Clark created the American music. Oh, look at that.

  • 48:42

    All right. Rest in peace to proud to be American. Did you maximize that? I

  • 48:46

    didn't. I didn't. Did you maximize that? Alright, I'm done with AMAs. I don't care.

  • 48:52

    Google it. Oh, they just did it to clap back at CBS for getting the

  • 48:57

    Grammys. That's what AMAs did? That's why it was created, apparently, according to Wikipedia. Oh,

  • 49:02

    so that was beef. This was built on beef. Yeah. Oh, we might have to

  • 49:08

    start watching AMAs. That was the first versus? Yeah, the Grammys versus the AMAs. Yeah,

  • 49:13

    I'm cool. I'm cool on the AMAs. David Chappelle. Back again. He did

  • 49:19

    it. Yet again. Listen, every time I think I come in here and there's absolutely

  • 49:24

    nothing to talk about, the universe is just universes. That was just stuffing. There's raisins

  • 49:30

    in there? Yeah. You can't do that. She was there for you at a vulnerable

  • 49:36

    time. You should forever be grateful. You playing right now. No, she was. I was

  • 49:42

    a sick bunch of you. You shaping a narrative. We were going to talk about

  • 49:46

    the Dave Chappelle special, the 20-minute special he dropped on Instagram addressing his Netflix release,

  • 49:51

    the Netflix release of his show. But then behind the scenes, we got to talking

  • 49:55

    about a young lady telling me she was the reason I still have two feet.

  • 50:00

    the text and I had no idea what the fuck she was talking about so

  • 50:05

    I said yo the fuck are you talking about and then she reminded me she

  • 50:10

    was the person that she wasn't a podiatrist and she stopped fucking with me she

  • 50:15

    stopped fucking me when uh Beyonce's album dropped well I mean that's gonna happen it

  • 50:20

    was one of those like lemonade changed things for me I hate when albums drop

  • 50:25

    to get bitches strength. Yeah. I can identify so much. I gotta stop living like

  • 50:30

    this. Oh, he's using me too. Well, I don't know. Did you listen to the

  • 50:35

    outro? She got back with him. Nah, they never make it that far. She never

  • 50:39

    left dude. But yeah, she's talking about because she came over and allegedly took care

  • 50:44

    of me when my foot was broken. There's no alleged... And here come you now.

  • 50:48

    She came over and she helped. She helped. She was a helping hand in time

  • 50:52

    of need. That's all I'm saying. Is she the reason I have two feet? No,

  • 50:55

    that's a stretch. Thank you. I'm just saying she was a helping hand in time

  • 50:58

    of need. And I appreciate it. Yeah, absolutely. As you should. You did what any

  • 51:01

    friend should do. Absolutely. Stand up guy you are, Joe. See, but I can't play

  • 51:05

    with you like that, right? Who was there for me in the time of need?

  • 51:08

    I never broke my foot. The birder. That was the only time you were in

  • 51:11

    need? Yeah. As if you break your foot? No, I used to have some wild

  • 51:14

    chicks come over for your needs. Would you like me to share? No. Because I

  • 51:20

    can't. I can't. Sometimes they were friends. It was a while. It was a while.

  • 51:25

    I was like, oh, you didn't bring her with you this time, huh? Oh, you're

  • 51:31

    alone this trip. Yeah, no. Yeah, no. All right. Come on. Let's get to it.

  • 51:37

    Dave Chappelle. Dave is not telling jokes anymore at this point. He's just going through

  • 51:43

    a rough time. I love it. It's not a rough time. I think it's a

  • 51:48

    prosperous time. Well, not rough in the sense of he's hurting. Yeah. Rough in the

  • 51:53

    sense of his art is being. Oh, sure. You know. Do y'all know chicks are

  • 51:57

    sharing on dick pics? Yeah. I said that last week. Marking me. For real? Yeah.

  • 52:01

    You got to send it to the right person and then the other one that

  • 52:05

    you really want to see it, see it. So y'all knew that. Yeah, you gotta

  • 52:10

    know who's in a group chat. I thought it was still like some sacredness between

  • 52:14

    us. Oh, Jost and girls just dick pic and say, for your eyes only. You

  • 52:18

    definitely the for your eyes only nigga. You want to mark your shit? Can you

  • 52:22

    share this little secret with me? You want to mark your shit? Yeah, you want

  • 52:26

    to mark your shit. With the Shade Room logo, not his. Yeah, what is wrong

  • 52:31

    with y'all, man? For your eyes on me. You can't be that naive. Between me

  • 52:36

    and you. Joe, you put the cover your eye emoji before you send the dick

  • 52:41

    pic? I can't believe I just sent this. Yeah, y'all are funny today. No, it

  • 52:47

    just dawned on me that that was happening. I had no idea. Because that's what

  • 52:51

    chicks are doing on the chatty house. They just posting niggas shit on apps. Oh,

  • 52:55

    shit. Oh, I didn't see that. Oh, no, that's going too far, ladies. Come on

  • 52:59

    now. That's where you draw the line? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't just start sending the

  • 53:03

    nigga to the app. To the chat house. Don't put my dick on the chatty

  • 53:06

    house. Yeah, don't do that. Please don't do that. Especially after some of these other

  • 53:10

    dicks y'all put up there. Please. The wall. Wait wait. You bitches is nasty.

  • 53:16

    I don't know what just happened. You felt a little

  • 53:22

    intimidated? I tried to get us away from it. I'm

  • 53:27

    trying to throw it to Dave. No listen man. Joe

  • 53:33

    enlarged the avian and was like "Whoa!" I cannot compete.

  • 53:38

    Can't compete with that guy. I understand why you be talking

  • 53:44

    this way on the clubhouse. You're gonna double back to me and tell

  • 53:50

    me, Joe, send it. No! I just saw your ad. Not now. It's

  • 53:55

    like following up kids. Where did you meet that man? I'm a good

  • 54:01

    listener, though. Holy shit. What is wrong with y'all, man? That's funny. I

  • 54:06

    walked into the room the other day. Bitches start calling some nigga Curve

  • 54:12

    Gotti. Okay. I'm leaving. This is nasty and y'all are disgusting

  • 54:18

    when I finally figured out what was happening. In her defense,

  • 54:23

    that's pretty funny. That's hilarious. Curve Gotti. That is disgusting.

  • 54:29

    That's hilarious. All right. David Chappelle. David. Oh, man. Dave Chappelle does it

  • 54:35

    again. Yesterday afternoon, right before we came to this podcast, when there was

  • 54:41

    nothing to talk about, Dave dropped some shit and the Grammy noms happened.

  • 54:46

    Both of those things occurred, and I was like, yes! So Dave did

  • 54:52

    a 20-minute special that he dropped on his Instagram page where he addressed

  • 54:58

    Netflix releasing the Dave Chappelle show. And

  • 55:03

    it was awesome. I don't have a long diatribe for you guys to say, hey,

  • 55:08

    I agree. Y'all know I agree. Look at Dave with the Greg Lauren on. Come

  • 55:12

    on. He was getting the Greg. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on, man.

  • 55:17

    Joe Sauce is everywhere out there. Or it's Greg Lauren Sauce. That's Joe Sauce. But

  • 55:22

    it was good. It was really good. Dave's a genius. Yada, yada, yada. All the

  • 55:26

    shit I come in here and say all the time. But man, was this great.

  • 55:31

    And I do enjoy what the transition comedians are doing from telling jokes to telling

  • 55:35

    stories. Like the good storytellers, I'm really feeling this. This was awesome. Yeah, no, you

  • 55:40

    guys watched it. I did. I did. And for those that haven't watched it, Dave

  • 55:44

    kind of went through his journey from a young comedian up until the Chappelle show

  • 55:48

    and discussed his deal with Comedy Central and how he kind of signed his life

  • 55:53

    away. And then they went to Netflix, which is his partner now, which he's gotten

  • 55:57

    a fair amount of money with. And they started streaming it along with HBO Max.

  • 56:01

    And he said, fuck out of here. Y'all are stealing from me. I don't care

  • 56:05

    that I signed that contract. That's my intellectual property. You are not about to profit

  • 56:09

    off of it without me. And Netflix, he said, was a great partner and said,

  • 56:13

    we didn't know you felt that way. We will take it down right now. Well,

  • 56:16

    no, even better than that. He said, this makes me feel like shit. Yeah. He

  • 56:21

    didn't, you know, accost them. He said, this makes me feel like shit. And we

  • 56:25

    do business together. A few weeks ago, I came in here and said, that's odd.

  • 56:29

    Yeah. I said, that's weird. It's strange that he would allow that to happen, especially

  • 56:34

    after that Saturday Night Live when he made the joke. Hey, I'm not getting paid

  • 56:38

    for any of this stuff. Yeah. I was like, oh, okay. I don't think he'll

  • 56:42

    stand for that. He's too profitable. He's too important to Netflix. Yeah. He spoke about

  • 56:47

    being on the right and wrong side of deals and just... Didn't matter that I

  • 56:52

    signed it out of desperation and it was fucked up and I didn't understand the

  • 56:57

    language at the time being a 29 year old father of an expecting child. I

  • 57:02

    signed it because I needed to. But today, should you be able to make money

  • 57:07

    off of my off of my creation in perpetuity and me not participate legally? Yes,

  • 57:12

    there's nothing wrong morally, morally. Nah. Doesn't feel the greatest. He said he called his

  • 57:18

    agent, tried to see if there was anything that he could do. His agent said

  • 57:23

    no. So he's coming to the fans. Coming to the fans to say if we

  • 57:28

    love him, if we care about him, if he's ever made us laugh, if he's

  • 57:33

    ever brought us even a morsel of joy, that we should not watch the Dave

  • 57:38

    Chappelle show on the DSPs that stream it. Until they share in... Until they pay

  • 57:43

    him. Until they pay him. Now, legally, do they have to pay them?

  • 57:49

    But it seems like you should want to make this right. Yeah.

  • 57:54

    Well, yeah, it shows the difference between a short-sighted, quick money grab

  • 58:00

    and a long-term relationship with a genius creator. You know, Netflix has

  • 58:06

    done what? Maybe four Chappelle specials now? Three? Yeah. Something like

  • 58:12

    that. It's been a bunch. A handful. They've had a run together and have only

  • 58:17

    said that they're going to continue. I'd like to keep that person happy and make

  • 58:21

    them feel like they have a morally sound partner. So yeah, I'm not going to

  • 58:26

    take the quick, short-sighted, let me throw the Chappelle show up on Netflix and stream

  • 58:30

    it. No, I'd rather make the person that I want to continue on with a

  • 58:35

    business relationship with happy. Yeah. This is crazy. So, yeah, let me take this down

  • 58:40

    right away because that's a quick short-sighted buck. We're trying to do business together for

  • 58:45

    a long time. I feel more like a genius when I watch the geniuses and

  • 58:50

    I understand them. And that's the feeling I get every time I see Dave Chappelle.

  • 58:55

    It's a very narcissistic genius thing. but i feel you no i mean it's a

  • 59:00

    fact even excluding the genius thing you know i related to a lot of this

  • 59:04

    like talking at the beginning about selling off a joke for 50 bucks And then

  • 59:09

    talking about how he went on his first tour and came back with $60, but

  • 59:13

    his rent was paid. Like, I've been there. Yeah, I mean, he did the same

  • 59:17

    way a joke premise is set up without a joke. Like, he set up the

  • 59:21

    premise and metaphor, if you will, for everything that he's went through in his life

  • 59:25

    from being 14 as a stand-up comedian to signing a huge deal with Comedy Central

  • 59:29

    for one of the greatest shows of all time. And how those two things are

  • 59:33

    connected and exactly alike. I don't want y'all to step on my amazing point that

  • 59:37

    I'm making, Because yes, you can understand what he's talking about when he's talking

  • 59:43

    about it because that's the greatness of Dave Chappelle for sure I'm talking about Understanding

  • 59:49

    why it's done Understanding why certain things are done and unless you get to the

  • 59:54

    point where a network or anybody out there is coming to offer you that type

  • 1:00:00

    of money 50 million dollars and it makes sense for you to walk away from

  • 1:00:06

    it. Mm-hmm That's what I'm talking about the action. Yeah, I And I don't

  • 1:00:12

    care how much all these clout chasing niggas out here talk. That ain't happening. That's

  • 1:00:17

    not common practice. Yeah, people are not walking away from that chat. All around the

  • 1:00:22

    board. Like when he got into talking about the interests of the shareholders at different

  • 1:00:27

    places, boy, did I feel him. And I don't have to tell you all I

  • 1:00:32

    felt him because I did all my Spotify ranting. You've seen this documented. Go look

  • 1:00:37

    it up. It's on YouTube. It's on Google. Google it. And he started talking about

  • 1:00:43

    Why he wouldn't go from maybe one place to another because it shouldn't matter if

  • 1:00:48

    the plantation is treating you nicer over there like boy did I just relate and

  • 1:00:54

    identify to so much of the shit that that he's saying and it sucks when

  • 1:00:59

    the geniuses that we look up to all have this story and And it's being

  • 1:01:05

    circulated now. Like, look how great you got to be to even have this story.

  • 1:01:10

    Dave Chappelle, Viola Davis, Shonda Rhimes. The list goes on and on. Steve Harvey, Nick

  • 1:01:14

    Cannon. I did this all the time. I didn't even go down the list. Monique

  • 1:01:19

    was one of the first ones. There's too many greats. There's too many greats. It's

  • 1:01:24

    unfortunate, though, because you look at a guy like Dave Chappelle and all he's accomplished,

  • 1:01:28

    and he's still having this type of fight. Or the fight is never ending. That's

  • 1:01:34

    what I'm saying. So if you're a young creator comic and you're coming up now,

  • 1:01:39

    you're looking at a guy like Dave Chappelle who's obviously your idol if that's what

  • 1:01:43

    you do. And it has to send a certain message like, damn, I'm in for

  • 1:01:47

    a fight. Do you know how many deals we've, all of us here, well, you

  • 1:01:52

    probably don't, but I'll tell you. Do you know how many deals all of us

  • 1:01:56

    here as a collective have almost had? Probably not because I don't come here and

  • 1:02:01

    share it. Because like, yeah, but there's been a lot of them

  • 1:02:06

    and there's been a lot of them that made sense. And there's been

  • 1:02:12

    a lot of them that paid pretty well. And there's been some of

  • 1:02:18

    those marriages that had we took them, boy, would we have shook the

  • 1:02:24

    building? There were some of these places where the entire universe there was

  • 1:02:30

    excited about our arrival. And it only takes one investor, one shareholder to

  • 1:02:36

    not get it. To see things differently. To not sign off on the approval.

  • 1:02:42

    To not get why this shit should cost this much. And guess what? It's not

  • 1:02:47

    my job to come explain it to anybody. I'm not here to convince people the

  • 1:02:53

    same way Dave spoke about HBO streaming and shit and him Pardon me about

  • 1:02:59

    HBO streaming his shit and had the claws in there and oh no, no him

  • 1:03:04

    pitching the show him pitching the Chappelle show to HBO before Comedy Central and I'm

  • 1:03:08

    turning it down saying what do we need you for and then streaming the show?

  • 1:03:13

    It's like you always got to go prove proof of concept for the people to

  • 1:03:18

    figure out that they need you a little bit and then not want you to

  • 1:03:23

    participate boy. Is it nasty? It is nasty. So sometimes you just got to say

  • 1:03:28

    no to some shit because that's what feels correct. But I mean, that's why that's

  • 1:03:32

    what leads you to sleep at night. My bad. That's why I like the Chappelle

  • 1:03:36

    story. Because I mean, if you were... Around in oh four oh five or whenever

  • 1:03:41

    that third season was starting Chappelle show was the greatest most craziest show on earth

  • 1:03:45

    like it had every type of buzz you could think when it came to a

  • 1:03:50

    TV show and He had 50 million dollar offer and he left said no then

  • 1:03:54

    they try to tarnish his name Say he was smoking crack and went to Africa

  • 1:03:59

    all like just complete fucking lies the stuff that they do. Yeah, it's a smear

  • 1:04:03

    campaign and And usually how that story ends is it would be over for Dave

  • 1:04:08

    Chappelle. And everyone would judge him and say, yo, you couldn't handle the pressure. You

  • 1:04:13

    left when he was the hottest. Like, wow, what a disappointing story. That just proves

  • 1:04:18

    that talent will always... be greater than whatever Viacom or whatever company that exists. If

  • 1:04:23

    it's combined with perseverance, because a lot of people will take this and hide away.

  • 1:04:28

    Oh, for sure. And Chappelle did and got his mind right and realized exactly what

  • 1:04:32

    he wanted to do. And now, from my understanding of reports, I don't know what

  • 1:04:37

    his pockets actually are, is doing insanely well money-wise and living the life that he

  • 1:04:42

    wanted to live. He seems happier than ever. Yeah, but you never make a move

  • 1:04:47

    based on the money. And a guy like Dave Chappelle, going back to... Oh, stop

  • 1:04:51

    it. They all are doing it. They all are making moves based off the money,

  • 1:04:56

    Mark. I'm just saying the ones that are in a position where Dave Chappelle is,

  • 1:05:00

    the top of the top, they don't do that anymore because it's not about that.

  • 1:05:05

    Well, I'm sure because you are right. You shouldn't make moves based off money, desperation,

  • 1:05:09

    whatever it is. But I can understand... in season two, season three for him and

  • 1:05:15

    getting $50 million, not just for you, fuck thinking about you, your family, your friends,

  • 1:05:20

    everyone that's involved, everyone that is employed by the show, like, yeah, that's some pressure

  • 1:05:25

    where maybe I'm not going to move for the money, but I might have to

  • 1:05:30

    for everyone around me. Like, my parents will be fine forever. My kids should be

  • 1:05:35

    good. Like, it's an easy decision I think a lot of people would make because

  • 1:05:41

    So many of the people they care for would be taken care of at that

  • 1:05:44

    point and that's a pressure that I don't take away from people when they have

  • 1:05:48

    to make these decisions. Yeah, but when I respect that he didn't but I can

  • 1:05:51

    totally see how someone could. No, absolutely. And some people do but when you create

  • 1:05:55

    an art And you're an artist. And, you know, even when you say that, it

  • 1:05:59

    sounds like you understate his genius. I could totally see how some people could know

  • 1:06:03

    that's common. I'm not saying it's normal. I'm not saying it's not. I'm just saying

  • 1:06:07

    when you're an artist like Dave is and someone puts a tag on your art

  • 1:06:11

    and you know, in your mind and your heart that this is worth way more

  • 1:06:15

    than that. you it's easy for you to walk away from it because you understand

  • 1:06:20

    it now people on the outside who work a nine to five and they're like

  • 1:06:24

    i would have took it i would yeah that's why you are who you are

  • 1:06:28

    and he is who he is he understands the value of his art he understands

  • 1:06:32

    if you look at early dave chappelle series now he was doing years ago was

  • 1:06:36

    relevant today yeah you know what i'm saying so it's like he's an artist that

  • 1:06:40

    understands that sure 50 million is a lot of money Not what I'm worth, though.

  • 1:06:44

    Not what I'm worth. Yeah, I agree. You know what I'm saying? Not what I'm

  • 1:06:48

    worth. I just think that's a more difficult decision than I think people... And there's

  • 1:06:52

    probably other stipulations in the contract. Maybe this is what I'm worth, but I don't

  • 1:06:56

    want to do it with you. Right. That, too. That's another thing. You know what

  • 1:07:00

    I mean? Yeah, that, too. Because I guess my point more is the Monday morning

  • 1:07:04

    quarterback shit. Now... 17 years later after the Chappelle show, I see everyone like, yeah,

  • 1:07:09

    Dave, he didn't take that. That's what I would have done, this and that. Now,

  • 1:07:13

    y'all are making this sound a lot easier than you think it is because you've

  • 1:07:18

    never been offered $50 million. I know we've seen 17 years later how he's prospered

  • 1:07:23

    through that entire thing, but that's not an easy decision as a 30-year-old With a

  • 1:07:29

    kid with a family with a staff with a fam like a parents like yeah

  • 1:07:33

    Yeah, that's a tough decision to make I know everyone thinks that they now because

  • 1:07:37

    independence is champion so much and I love that But it also adds on that

  • 1:07:41

    fact that everyone's like yeah not turned down the hundred mil cuz I know no

  • 1:07:45

    you don't you've never Been offered that yeah, that's another thing too. Some people say

  • 1:07:48

    yeah, I would have took that but you would have took less and I think

  • 1:07:53

    99% of the people would have taken the Spotify deal they offered us. I know.

  • 1:07:57

    I'm waiting for people to say that Dave Chappelle is a bad businessman and negotiator.

  • 1:08:01

    Who's going to? Nobody's going to say that. Somebody should. No, because they've seen the

  • 1:08:05

    results. That's why I'm saying this Monday morning quarterback shit. The same people that said

  • 1:08:08

    after the whole Spotify shit we went through and had choice words for it. In

  • 1:08:12

    2004, they would have said the same shit about Chappelle. Well, Dave Chappelle is saying

  • 1:08:16

    the same thing. When he got to that part, About hey you guys you guys

  • 1:08:21

    go downstairs to accounting You look at what you earned and then you look at

  • 1:08:25

    what you paid me Boy, did I feel that in my soul? I felt that

  • 1:08:30

    spiritually because I'm I never asked for the numbers anywhere I don't need to ask

  • 1:08:34

    y'all for the numbers cuz I'm an impact guy. I'm a culture guy No, I

  • 1:08:39

    feel it when it's happening. I don't have to go y'all go look at the

  • 1:08:43

    numbers You'll never show them to me. You'll never show them to us. I You

  • 1:08:48

    go look at them and do your own due diligence and do the right thing.

  • 1:08:52

    You think they ever come back and do the right thing? I sit on the

  • 1:08:56

    phone for hours with these guys, executives, high-level executives, and they say, well, hey, if

  • 1:09:01

    it's not the money that dictates how you move, then what is it? And I

  • 1:09:05

    tell them straight up every time, hey, I'm on the side of what's right and

  • 1:09:09

    wrong. I just need to know who's evil. I'm not telling you what to do.

  • 1:09:15

    I just need to know who's evil. Well, what do you mean? What do you

  • 1:09:19

    mean evil? Who's the evil people? Oh, no, no, no, no, white people. Don't trick

  • 1:09:24

    me that way. Because I'm not talking about white people. I'm talking about evil people.

  • 1:09:29

    Because if I make you $100 million and you won't give me $3 million, we

  • 1:09:34

    off. We way off. And then the bigger lesson here, the bigger lesson with Dave,

  • 1:09:39

    or the hidden lesson here, Because I think last week I came in here and

  • 1:09:44

    said, man, if y'all just stop, if y'all just sit and try to be creative

  • 1:09:48

    and stop trying to buy your way to a fucking dime every time, you might

  • 1:09:52

    think of something. So here comes Dave to say to his partner, big, big, big

  • 1:09:57

    corporation with all the money. Hey, when you're doing this and it makes me feel

  • 1:10:01

    uneasy and uncomfortable, I don't feel good about it. Dave, the creator. The company, recognizing

  • 1:10:05

    how important that is, says, we got you. Don't worry about it. Take it down.

  • 1:10:09

    No matter how profitable it is, they take it down. You know what that means

  • 1:10:14

    to me? All that shit he was leading up to an end, it sounds like

  • 1:10:18

    he's saying, hey, either this is going to happen or I'm just going to come

  • 1:10:22

    with a new show. I'm going to recreate my show and I'm going to bring

  • 1:10:26

    it. Stop playing with me. It's mine. I'm the creator. Now, wait, wait, Maul. What

  • 1:10:30

    happens when Dave Chappelle today... and all his newfound notoriety and fame and stardom and

  • 1:10:35

    geniusness, recreates his show with this turmoil and brings it to his business partner who

  • 1:10:39

    understood the value and making sure that the creator feels good. We will support it.

  • 1:10:44

    That's the part that these companies keep missing. Hey, right here, bring it in. That's

  • 1:10:49

    the part. I'm not going to tell you all to value that because if you

  • 1:10:54

    don't know how to value it, it ain't my job to teach you. And I

  • 1:10:59

    don't need to be well-versed in tech anymore. to get that. I don't need to

  • 1:11:04

    be well versed like this is a moral clause thing. Anywhere I am, I want

  • 1:11:10

    to know how y'all feel about black people, how y'all treat black people, and if

  • 1:11:15

    you're for the betterment of black people. Shout out to all my black people out

  • 1:11:21

    there. Simple. And I'm having that conversation all around the fucking board.

  • 1:11:27

    It's a shame. It's sickening how many white people I have to have this conversation

  • 1:11:32

    with. It's sickening how many of my black geniuses I got to see say they

  • 1:11:37

    have the exact same struggle and dilemma. What was my other point about a home,

  • 1:11:43

    a home, a home, a home, a home? Damn, I had a point about a

  • 1:11:48

    home. I wonder if it, oh, what happens when that show drops on Netflix? Tell

  • 1:11:53

    me. It goes insane. Oh yeah, we support it. The internet breaks like a JT

  • 1:11:59

    picture dropped. Absolutely. Absolutely. And that's the thing. People don't understand. Dave, he's one of

  • 1:12:05

    those people that people genuinely love and support. They will follow him. They will support

  • 1:12:11

    him. We trust him. It's like back in the day, some movies used to come

  • 1:12:17

    out And talking about it, you know, the next one, the blockbusters come out. The

  • 1:12:21

    next question is, well, who's in it? And depending on who was in it, sometimes

  • 1:12:25

    you could say, oh, he don't take a bad role. Yeah. He's great with the

  • 1:12:30

    scripts. Yeah, the writing might be the act This one is gonna all-star cat sometimes

  • 1:12:35

    depending on the name said you knew the business that was attached That's where Dave

  • 1:12:40

    is for me right now when you see him. It's a moment When you see

  • 1:12:45

    him, it's important. He didn't have to say a word. I think it's chain-smoking this

  • 1:12:49

    shit. I loved it But when you see him he has something to say I

  • 1:12:54

    love it, man I DM'd him on Instagram. Did you respond? No, I just

  • 1:13:00

    did it two hours ago. Geniuses keep geniusing. Boy, was he inspiring to me. And

  • 1:13:06

    watching my fellow brethren get fucked and going to the fans. It's awesome, man. I

  • 1:13:11

    don't know if this is comedy. I don't know if it's comedy. What a storyteller

  • 1:13:17

    this guy is. It's art. He might be the most important artist that we have

  • 1:13:23

    right now. He's top of the list, for sure. I can't think of someone who

  • 1:13:29

    I... Every time will click no matter what and have not been disappointed for this

  • 1:13:34

    long. Yeah. No, it's just consistency. No matter what he's doing. Because even with the

  • 1:13:39

    George Floyd thing he did, was that on YouTube or on IG? I think it

  • 1:13:45

    was YouTube. Yeah, of where it wasn't. This isn't a comedy bit. I'm just a

  • 1:13:50

    really intelligent person with an amazing point of view that needs to be heard right

  • 1:13:55

    now. Like the things I would do as a company just to be in

  • 1:14:01

    his good graces. Right. See, but that's a luxury that he's afforded. He's worked himself

  • 1:14:06

    there. Like. And took the risk to be there. Yeah. Everyone is not afforded this

  • 1:14:11

    type of privilege. And even though he's in this position of getting fucked, there's still

  • 1:14:16

    a little bit of privileged. Well. Privilege attached. There's also the leverage that a company

  • 1:14:21

    will know you'll leave. We know Dave turning down that 50 million from Comedy

  • 1:14:27

    Central. We know Dave will leave. So you need to keep me happy. There's plenty

  • 1:14:32

    of people that have been in business forever and how they want to do business

  • 1:14:37

    is their business. But companies do know they're not going to leave. We'll give them

  • 1:14:42

    an extra mil and they'll be fine. Fucking creators, do it. They never leave. Dave

  • 1:14:48

    has that leverage of that. It's not even a mystique. It's a fact. Dave will

  • 1:14:53

    leave here if he's not happy. You better keep him happy if you want to

  • 1:14:58

    be in business with him. And that comes from taking a risk. I think bigger

  • 1:15:03

    than that, not only will he leave, I think he's proven that I'll leave and

  • 1:15:08

    I will be even better and bigger than I was when I left here. Just

  • 1:15:13

    fucking fine. So, you know, yeah, companies definitely should keep Dave happy. It's not about

  • 1:15:18

    money. It's about partnerships. It all sounds familiar. Yeah. Damn it. It's a reoccurring story.

  • 1:15:23

    Yeah. It all sounds familiar is how it sounds to me. I just told Ian

  • 1:15:28

    a few days ago. I said, Ian, I said, as crazy as this is going

  • 1:15:33

    to sound, boy, am I happy that I've walked away from all of these millions

  • 1:15:39

    and millions of dollars. Not because it wouldn't be nice to have them, but just

  • 1:15:44

    because it's important to let the evil people know or the other people know, you

  • 1:15:49

    will. Yeah. Yeah. You got to feel good about what you're doing. It's like when

  • 1:15:54

    they keep telling Ben Simmons to take the jump shot. Shoot it. just shoot it

  • 1:15:59

    it don't matter if you miss it airball 70 air balls in a row we

  • 1:16:03

    just need to know you'll do it they don't see that enough yeah i'm i'm

  • 1:16:08

    proud of that i am you got to let somebody know that they can't punch

  • 1:16:12

    you in the face when the whole the whole history in business which you talked

  • 1:16:17

    about a little bit too is just punching you in the face doing whatever the

  • 1:16:21

    they want acting like you had their beck and mercy no no no no no

  • 1:16:26

    no This is the discount that I'm showing you. It's not for you to chop

  • 1:16:30

    it in half. Because that's what's normal after I say something, you say something, you

  • 1:16:33

    chop it in half, you bring it back to me, now I bring it up

  • 1:16:37

    halfway into that, and now you bring it down with a new clause over there,

  • 1:16:41

    with a new property that doesn't exist yet. Nigga, what? No! Yo, it's so normal

  • 1:16:45

    in that world that half, yo, and there's a such thing as negotiation fatigue. Now

  • 1:16:50

    I'm on a rant. What? Absolutely. Now I'm on a rant. Now you have driven

  • 1:16:55

    me so crazy for the last six months of nonsense that now I'm looking at

  • 1:17:00

    Ian saying, man, just get something done. That's it. I'm just tired. Yeah. I'm just

  • 1:17:05

    tired of going back and forth with people. I always have to embrace myself before

  • 1:17:09

    a day of negotiation. Like, I need to clear my schedule. I need to chill

  • 1:17:14

    out, get a pack of cigs, whatever. Do whatever I got to do. Go work

  • 1:17:18

    out. Get in the zone. Because I know it's going to be exhausting. It might

  • 1:17:22

    be an hour conversation. The habits and the verbiage be so nuts. Midway through the

  • 1:17:27

    process, you'll scratch your head like, am I off? Yeah. One of the biggest negotiation

  • 1:17:31

    tactics is to do the months of just bullshit and then you finally feel like

  • 1:17:36

    you're getting to a place and say there's a deadline, the week of or a

  • 1:17:41

    few days before, they will completely change everything knowing that you're exhausted. It's like, yo,

  • 1:17:45

    let's just get this shit done. That's a standard 101 negotiation shit. Let's change everything

  • 1:17:50

    24 hours before this deadline because I know they'll take it because they're exhausted and

  • 1:17:55

    just want to get it done. That's a standard negotiation tactic. You'll talk to your

  • 1:18:00

    people. And then you'll see things and then you see things through the process.

  • 1:18:06

    They'll smack the shit out of you again because they say and do things

  • 1:18:11

    that basically say to you, you have nothing. You have nothing and you come

  • 1:18:17

    from nothing. Why wouldn't you take this? Because some of us

  • 1:18:24

    are not just cool with getting in the ass with no lube some of us

  • 1:18:28

    are not just moving that way you don't have enough fiber they didn't even use

  • 1:18:33

    lube on you what guy they had it they didn't even get you wet they

  • 1:18:38

    have a glove i feel like we already got two clonics in a week before

  • 1:18:42

    and now i don't remember where i was but it doesn't matter it doesn't matter

  • 1:18:47

    because y'all don't need a long rant from us we we stand on this and

  • 1:18:51

    this and this type of movement i think it's important for us this type of

  • 1:18:56

    move ain't for everybody either some of you take what they offer Some of you

  • 1:19:01

    niggas can't just be throwing the office upside down. All right, that's what you're worth.

  • 1:19:06

    Take that. More is not wrong. Yeah. Some of you are worth what they put

  • 1:19:11

    on the table. Yeah. Some of y'all shouldn't fuck yourselves over. Take that deal. I

  • 1:19:15

    think that's important. Y'all are smoking mirrors. Y'all not really talented. But that's neither here

  • 1:19:20

    nor there. Watch this Chappelle thing on his Instagram. It's 20 minutes. We even left

  • 1:19:25

    out some of the great parts. I don't want to completely ruin it because I

  • 1:19:29

    think that standard practice thing with hiring his lawyers and everyone being on the same

  • 1:19:32

    team is a whole other conversation that we could really get into right now. A

  • 1:19:36

    lot of y'all that used to yell at Meg the stallion why didn't you just

  • 1:19:41

    get a lawyer uh should watch this and us because everybody is yeah that's who

  • 1:19:45

    everybody is on the same team that standard practice is even good for your lawyer

  • 1:19:50

    that has your best interest because they keep working yeah and then to see what

  • 1:19:54

    Dave became man man well not what he became because he's always been this like

  • 1:19:58

    he said he started out great like definitely being great at 15 or however old

  • 1:20:04

    he was man dave is just such an inspiration to me dave dave call me

  • 1:20:08

    man like what the enough is enough oh where's my phone all right maybe i

  • 1:20:13

    am number one on industry list do you have his number No, but I only

  • 1:20:19

    feel like, look at Erickson thinking we're about to get a juicy moment. A juicy

  • 1:20:25

    moment. Don't ever tell Erickson we're about to get a juicy moment. Erickson set up

  • 1:20:31

    the red camera just now. They're calling Dave, set up the red. No, I don't

  • 1:20:36

    have Dave Chappelle's number. Don't think that I'm that awesome. I'm not. But we're only

  • 1:20:42

    ever a few steps away from anyone. Just call Dono. That's exactly what I'm doing.

  • 1:20:47

    My good guy, Ashley Larry. Nah, shout out to Dono. Oh, man, where the fuck

  • 1:20:53

    is Ashley Larry's number? I guess you could call Scythe. Oh, fuck. Let's see. Bong,

  • 1:20:59

    bong, bong, bong. Oh, I don't have that either. well not as an industry as

  • 1:21:04

    we thought don't worry about it uh still last on the list i'm like no

  • 1:21:09

    you're not i was gonna call ashy larry man but dave answer my dm call

  • 1:21:13

    me text me i'm waiting up and i don't even know what i need to

  • 1:21:18

    say i just that's on my bucket list i have to talk today i was

  • 1:21:22

    gonna say have you ever met him ever had a conversation i don't think so

  • 1:21:27

    yeah you guys should should sit down for sure i don't think so when There's

  • 1:21:31

    been a few times where people invited me to where he was

  • 1:21:37

    and I couldn't be there or... Like he was inviting everybody to the ranch out

  • 1:21:43

    there, making them take the COVID test. I didn't really look forward to that. I

  • 1:21:47

    mean, I know, I know, I know it's this protocol. It's the proper thing to

  • 1:21:52

    do, but it doesn't make you, it doesn't make you rush to someone's home. Number

  • 1:21:56

    one, two, I don't think I was invited anyway. Well, that's always the Dave invite

  • 1:22:01

    me to that Ohio ranch. That's what I got. We should pot out there. I

  • 1:22:05

    said me, see, we're trying to get snuck in again. I'm not sneaking you into

  • 1:22:11

    a ranch. It's a strong play, Roy. I like it. I just like Ohio, Joe.

  • 1:22:15

    Love the beautiful state of Ohio. Who likes Ohio? It's a swing state. It's important.

  • 1:22:19

    My last catfish that got me was in Ohio. What part? Yeah, catfish. Yeah, I

  • 1:22:23

    met a little hottie. Oh, I thought you meant like... I met a little hottie

  • 1:22:27

    on the internet. Said she lived in Cleveland. Thought I'd never be there until I

  • 1:22:31

    was strolling by on tour one time. And I said, hey, come outside. What? Don't

  • 1:22:35

    worry about it. Don't worry about it. I'm just head to LA. That's where I

  • 1:22:41

    was going anyway. No, we're headed to Akron. That's a sick tour route. Cleveland to

  • 1:22:47

    LA. That was a good tour run. The old Cleveland run. Did you meet the

  • 1:22:52

    catfish? I didn't. Well, maybe I did actually. No. Then she deleted her page.

  • 1:22:59

    She got caught. I wasn't even mad at her. I kept following the fake page.

  • 1:23:03

    You look good, bitch. I don't have to meet you. Wherever you're pulling these photos

  • 1:23:07

    from. Whoever this is is nice. Yeah, get your shit off. I still enjoy seeing

  • 1:23:11

    this person. Whoever this is looks great. I hope she keeps up with the content.

  • 1:23:16

    You have good taste. Oh, man. Take Dave off, man, before I get riled up

  • 1:23:20

    again. I don't want to get riled up. That was awesome. But you do feel

  • 1:23:24

    that you're not number one on the list. Our industry list? Yeah. Yeah, we had

  • 1:23:28

    this talk already, Rory. yeah i know we've had a lot i i'm not i

  • 1:23:33

    am not number one on the industry list by my gauge because i go off

  • 1:23:37

    of our souls i think in your little white soul you really want to be

  • 1:23:42

    in the industry do you really i think in parks little white soul well parks

  • 1:23:46

    tall white soul well parks i got to figure out where he is on this

  • 1:23:51

    i'm last maul has industry in his core he started rockefeller he's before me He

  • 1:23:55

    is you and Rory are before me just eggs Dave I just kind of want

  • 1:23:59

    to be home and chill you just and I don't know marks might be after

  • 1:24:03

    me cuz he kind of just want to be home and chill too but you

  • 1:24:07

    want to be home and mix records so you should be before me I want

  • 1:24:10

    to be home doing nothing. No, you want to be a Dave's house. I want

  • 1:24:14

    to go to Dave's house. Yeah, I don't is that a point to get me

  • 1:24:18

    on? Yes, that's a three-pointer actually and if we had the real conversation we had

  • 1:24:22

    off my greatest comedian living Yeah, but you don't say probably call me Come to

  • 1:24:26

    your home What the fuck is wrong with you? Will your children sleep? What the

  • 1:24:31

    fuck is wrong with this nigga, man? Just told this nigga to call you on

  • 1:24:36

    a podcast. Sick. We have a lot of reach. No, that's true. So how should

  • 1:24:40

    I know but that's why you use and you just last week Yo the demon

  • 1:24:44

    time and I would all that good words have power like what you say the

  • 1:24:47

    words universe make it come back now You clowning me for you utilizing that I'm

  • 1:24:51

    just saying I'm mature no mature counter speaking to your counter I'm just speaking to

  • 1:24:55

    the industry conversation of who's more industry. I I am utilizing my words to will

  • 1:24:59

    things to fruition, Maul. You want a date with a man? No, I want to

  • 1:25:03

    go there and see something. No, not even a date. You want to go right

  • 1:25:07

    to the crib. I want to go there and see something. I want to go

  • 1:25:11

    snoop around the ranch. Maybe I'll do like I did at Puff's and go to

  • 1:25:16

    sleep in the bathroom outside for two hours, lock myself in there and have a

  • 1:25:20

    blast. Dave's probably got good wine, too. Oh, man. Good weed. That Puff shit over

  • 1:25:24

    there, man. Look, look at y'all trying to make me number one again. I'm out

  • 1:25:29

    of here. All right, what else do we have to get to? What else is

  • 1:25:34

    super important out here? Rest in peace, David Dinkins, man. Rest in peace, David Dinkins.

  • 1:25:39

    Mayor Dinkins. First African-American mayor of New York. Did it say how Dave passed? We're

  • 1:25:44

    showing our age, man. I'm not sure. He was 93. Yeah, I don't think it

  • 1:25:49

    said officially, but... Yeah, rest in peace. Rest in peace to Billy Evans

  • 1:25:55

    as well. Yes. Yes. Rest in peace. They're not telling us cause of death

  • 1:26:01

    there as well. And 21 Savage's brother was murdered. And I just I hope

  • 1:26:06

    we can all make it out of the year safe, like through the next

  • 1:26:12

    month, one month left. This has been a really morbid year, man. Prayers, thoughts,

  • 1:26:18

    love and condolences to 21 Savage, his family, friends, loved ones.

  • 1:26:24

    That's just sad. Yeah. That is sad. A lot of death. A

  • 1:26:29

    lot of death. Prayers to the family, for sure. So I saw

  • 1:26:35

    a video of Jim Jones and French Montana being friendly. They were

  • 1:26:40

    in the same space, using the same slang. French Jones, all right.

  • 1:26:46

    The Coke Boys. Mm-hmm. Five? Yeah. CB5 is the name of it?

  • 1:26:52

    Mm-hmm. I liked it. And I'll be honest with y'all. This... reconciliation

  • 1:26:57

    of Jim and French warms my heart like I paused and I stared at that

  • 1:27:02

    video for a long time as somebody that was present in New York when that

  • 1:27:07

    beef was going on no need for me to talk about how active it was

  • 1:27:12

    but please believe it was active like see you on the street driving by active

  • 1:27:17

    that's that's as much as I'll say so to see this unit unification From New

  • 1:27:23

    York acts that was once at odds the way that they were at odds, man.

  • 1:27:28

    I'm so super happy for these brothers. Yeah, I like it. And it felt good

  • 1:27:33

    to see. Also the same with Fab and Jim, now that I think about it.

  • 1:27:38

    Yeah, just I think this one was a little more publicized with how crazy it

  • 1:27:43

    was. Well, that wasn't rap shit, Jim and French. The Fab shit, though, I'm saying,

  • 1:27:47

    like, Jim and Fab is on double dates together now. Getting older. They in Miami

  • 1:27:52

    together. But that's the shit that... Pardon me. That's the shit that should be highlighted

  • 1:27:58

    in our culture when these dudes just age and mature and evolve in front of

  • 1:28:02

    our very eyes. I remember calling Fab in a story that I shouldn't share many,

  • 1:28:06

    many, many, many years ago. And I had this great idea of doing a song

  • 1:28:11

    with him and Jim because I was such a big Jim fan and a Fab

  • 1:28:15

    fan. It was New York. They were the two. And Fab was like... Me and

  • 1:28:20

    Jim. And he didn't say nothing, but all he said was me and Jim kind

  • 1:28:24

    of, you know. It's a little tension. That was it. Yeah. That was all he

  • 1:28:28

    said. So to see this type of brotherly love and frolicking in Miami with our

  • 1:28:32

    wives, our longtime girlfriends, we buy the pool. No, I think they're in Aruba. Yeah,

  • 1:28:36

    they were in Aruba. Wherever they are, it's awesome. I'm sorry. I was just at

  • 1:28:41

    that same Flamingo farm they was at. Talk your shit roar. Come on, man. Yeah,

  • 1:28:45

    I didn't I didn't thank God Rory is here to point it out for me

  • 1:28:50

    I saw how lean was down there. Everyone's in a room before something not for

  • 1:28:55

    some reason. I'm sure they're shooting something They're there for the flamingos those fabs a

  • 1:29:00

    birthday birthday that he didn't invite us to come on FAB. Oh, don't do that

  • 1:29:05

    Come on, don't do that the sport sports ways. Yeah, don't do that shit next

  • 1:29:10

    year. Oh, it was only nine people. Oh Arubo was great with the cover

  • 1:29:15

    too. I see what he did. But it got me to thinking, what other beefs

  • 1:29:21

    do we need to see squashed? Not beef like the real street rappers shooting at

  • 1:29:27

    one another, but like what other blemishes that we came up on do we need

  • 1:29:33

    to see squashed? Like Wayne and Birdman kind of are resolved. We've seen a lot

  • 1:29:39

    of reconciliation. 50 a game are kind of resolved. I don't know. Have they spoken?

  • 1:29:44

    Yeah, they was at the club together. They're kind of resolved. They're as resolved as

  • 1:29:49

    you can be. Yeah, if they're not, they're one or two people away from being

  • 1:29:54

    resolved. No, they're good. They go out together. But I just think they're both extremely

  • 1:29:58

    petty, so they won't advertise it the same way other people will. I think maybe

  • 1:30:03

    all we have left would be Hov and Dame. I don't know that we'll ever

  • 1:30:08

    see that. I'll never say never. Maybe Drake and Yee? which i think but i

  • 1:30:13

    think i think that'll come other than that we've run out of hip-hop beefs that

  • 1:30:17

    need to be squashed that's kind of good that are not actual real yeah real

  • 1:30:22

    beefs i'm not talking about that i'm a podcast host i know i'm not trying

  • 1:30:26

    to get involved in the street stuff i agree yeah i'd have to think but

  • 1:30:30

    there are many of just like pointless rap tiffs that don't because a lot of

  • 1:30:35

    this happened when these guys were young man it's like everybody older now kids engaged

  • 1:30:39

    or married You ain't beefing no more. What are we doing? This happened when we

  • 1:30:44

    was 24 years old. We're not doing that anymore. But it is good to see

  • 1:30:49

    though. No, it's great to see. Like Jim and French, you know, if you're from

  • 1:30:54

    New York, you understand exactly how, you know, far back this tension goes and things

  • 1:30:59

    that were happening around it. So for this, this is... No, this wasn't tension. A

  • 1:31:03

    little past tension. This is way past tension. But it's good to see though. It's

  • 1:31:08

    real good to see. Yeah, congratulations to these men, man. Honestly, I feel good about

  • 1:31:13

    that. Congratulations to Elon Musk as well. He is officially the second wealthiest man ever,

  • 1:31:18

    right? Or in the country, if not ever. Is that true? I was going to

  • 1:31:23

    say. In the world? In the country. I don't know. No disrespect. I don't read

  • 1:31:28

    that. In the country? Come on, man. Is he number two? Jeff Bezos being one?

  • 1:31:33

    Yes. He's number two, okay. Elon Musk is now tied with Bill Gates as the

  • 1:31:38

    world's second richest man. Well, there's that. All right. Congratulations. When's the subway

  • 1:31:43

    hitting LA? He's going to get us all to Mars. And I'm going to

  • 1:31:49

    spark a cig. See what's going on blow up the whole planet um

  • 1:31:55

    what else is important that we need to get to the

  • 1:32:01

    undoing the undoing yes Everyone caught up. Yeah one episode left.

  • 1:32:07

    Well. I don't know if the people listening are but I Don't

  • 1:32:12

    care sorry. I don't I don't care about you guys spoiler We're here to talk

  • 1:32:17

    about it y'all watch that shit in your own time or fast-forward through this part

  • 1:32:22

    right here But the undoing is on just doing they're doing undoing things. Yeah, it's

  • 1:32:27

    undoing right before very honest The show was so good. I did go look up

  • 1:32:31

    the word undoing like I was trying to get a clue after Who might have

  • 1:32:36

    doing who did this? so now If you saw the end of the last episode,

  • 1:32:40

    we won't mention it here because we're kind. You probably think the little boy did

  • 1:32:43

    it like more, right? Like me? You think? I didn't think the little boy did

  • 1:32:46

    it. Oh, wait. No, you wouldn't mean it. I think he did it. Parks thinks

  • 1:32:49

    the little boy did it. I've been saying that for a while. You think one

  • 1:32:53

    of the little boys. It don't even matter. Any child. Yeah. Rory what side of

  • 1:32:56

    defense are you on here? I'm still sticking with my theory that it's her and

  • 1:33:00

    she's that might be giving the writers too much good So schizophrenic. Yeah, and I

  • 1:33:04

    think she's actually the side chick I think or I have two theories She was

  • 1:33:08

    actually the side chick and killed her or she was in a relationship with shorty

  • 1:33:11

    and found out she was fucking dude and killed her because of that because she

  • 1:33:15

    was way too comfortable naked in the gym she kissed her like I think they

  • 1:33:19

    may have been in a relationship in her psychotic brain and The son don't know

  • 1:33:25

    that that's in there, that thing he found. Somebody put that in his closet. I

  • 1:33:29

    don't know if it was dad. I don't know if it was the mom. But

  • 1:33:33

    what I love about this show is at the end, whoever they try to make

  • 1:33:38

    you think it is, they dispel that shit within the first two seconds of the

  • 1:33:42

    next episode. Right away. Yeah, I know. Let me tell you what happened. Oh, okay.

  • 1:33:46

    I was wrong. I do have a theory that her father is actually just her

  • 1:33:51

    doctor. I would be so mad if Roy's right, by the way. I'm just kind

  • 1:33:56

    of throwing shit at the wall. These are far-fetched theories. Their relationship

  • 1:34:02

    is not father-daughter. It feels like doctor-patient. And her having this... idea

  • 1:34:08

    that she was a therapist and that gay couple as clients. So you do think

  • 1:34:12

    this is going to go Shutter Island Fight Club? Maybe. Okay. Maybe. I'm probably totally

  • 1:34:16

    wrong. I'm not off of the white lawyer friend. My mom tried to make me

  • 1:34:21

    get off of it by saying she's a wild card. You know she's a lawyer,

  • 1:34:25

    right? Yeah, but I don't think a lawyer would ever commit such a crime. I

  • 1:34:29

    say, Ma, no, the only it's television. Yeah, but no, the only reason why I

  • 1:34:33

    think I say her because I go back to the episode when she first walked

  • 1:34:36

    in the courtroom and the way that the woman that died, the way the husband

  • 1:34:40

    looked at her when she walked in, like he looked at her in a way

  • 1:34:44

    and she even said on the phone, he just gave me a death stare like.

  • 1:34:48

    It's like, why would you look at her like that? And I'm not off of

  • 1:34:52

    that stare she gave when Shorty was breastfeeding episode one either. Yeah. Yeah, that's true.

  • 1:34:57

    There might be a beef there that we haven't learned about just yet. I've exonerated

  • 1:35:02

    the Spanish husband-boyfriend guy. Yeah, too obvious. I'm off of them. And if it's him,

  • 1:35:07

    I'll be angry. Do you guys have any theories on why the father is always

  • 1:35:12

    sitting looking at that painting in that place? Have you ever seen any Donald Sutherland

  • 1:35:17

    movie in the last 30 years where he didn't do something weird and psychotic like

  • 1:35:22

    that no i'm just asking if you have a an opinion of how it's connected

  • 1:35:27

    to anything he's into the arch were okay he's a pianist everyone keeps finding the

  • 1:35:33

    same painting shorty was a painter there's something here dismissing that point is a little

  • 1:35:38

    hard you think the father was smashing it too it wouldn't shock me he did

  • 1:35:43

    he did say he cheated on his wife maybe he stopped somebody if the wife

  • 1:35:48

    was following the husband because i like how the husband pulled up like yeah what

  • 1:35:53

    you doing yeah yeah that looks like i got time to think that and i'm

  • 1:35:57

    out and we buy the water like hello hi don't you think he was following

  • 1:36:01

    me well quickly there too which is why my point of her kind of making

  • 1:36:04

    this entire thing up as soon as he was bailed out tmz was in the

  • 1:36:08

    front every camera ever this huge crowd then all of a sudden they walking on

  • 1:36:12

    the east river with not a single soul noticing them and now they're hugging and

  • 1:36:16

    talking about the trial yeah yeah You making this shit up in your head. They

  • 1:36:20

    found the low spot. Then I thought the mom and the son might be in

  • 1:36:25

    cahoots until my mom said, yeah, but the mom didn't know that the boy saw

  • 1:36:30

    them, so no. Like, my mom keeps trying to debunk my theories. This is what

  • 1:36:35

    I think. If Nicole Kidman was following Hugh Grant and saw him busting it down

  • 1:36:41

    or she was having an affair so she was going to get hers off or

  • 1:36:46

    she was buying art because she keeps having flashbacks that we can't see. Someone was

  • 1:36:51

    following her. I'm mad at that. Now, I no longer think it's the kid. Could

  • 1:36:56

    be the lawyer. And I'm still stuck on the dad. It might be the dad

  • 1:37:01

    or the lawyer. Those are my final two options. I need final two options on

  • 1:37:06

    all of you. Damn, how do I just leave out the mom? I think it

  • 1:37:11

    was either Hugh Gray or the son. I think it was either Nicole Kidman or

  • 1:37:16

    the lawyer, her friend. I think Nicole Kidman or the father. Her father. Her father,

  • 1:37:21

    yeah. All right, the votes are in. We'll see you this weekend. Stop the count.

  • 1:37:26

    It might be. Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm with you now. Let

  • 1:37:31

    me nab that thing called second thought. I don't know. Yeah, nah, I'm sticking with

  • 1:37:36

    that. It's a good show. I'm so conflicted. I hate when life happens and it

  • 1:37:41

    pits me against some of my own beliefs. I come in here so many times

  • 1:37:46

    and I say, yo, man, these fucking writers... They don't get right to it. They

  • 1:37:50

    drag it out. It's a series. We just want to sink into the shits. Challenge

  • 1:37:53

    yourselves. Then we get a show like this that comes out. Yo, just six episodes.

  • 1:37:57

    We're challenging you every episode. It's like, why isn't it longer? You could have dragged

  • 1:38:01

    this out a little bit. I don't know how I feel about that. I'm all

  • 1:38:05

    over the place. I'll be honest. Six episodes, I love. Six episodes an hour is

  • 1:38:09

    my time. I feel like this might have was supposed to be a movie. I

  • 1:38:14

    can see this. Because theaters are closed, they just used more film, edited it, and

  • 1:38:19

    just made it a miniseries. Yeah, this could be shot as a movie. These are

  • 1:38:24

    movie actors. This is Sutherland. This is Kidman, Hugh Grant. This is not HBO miniseries

  • 1:38:29

    actors. This is like Hollywood... A-list actors. That's true. But they do have a, I

  • 1:38:34

    think the director or producer also does Big Little Eyes? Is that what it is?

  • 1:38:38

    With also Nicole Kidman on HBO. So there's a thing there. And I do like

  • 1:38:42

    that a lot of the bigger actors and actresses have kind of given in to

  • 1:38:46

    the times. Like, it's okay now to do a TV series that may be on

  • 1:38:50

    HBO or on Netflix or something streaming. Like, it's not belittling to your career the

  • 1:38:54

    way it used to be. Like, wait, you're going to do TV now? You were

  • 1:38:58

    a movie star. Now we fuck with TV now. Yeah. But yeah, this was shot

  • 1:39:03

    like a movie, Moe. It feels like a movie. Absolutely. But TV's been turning in

  • 1:39:08

    that direction for a while. Sure. I don't know. They got an hour to give

  • 1:39:13

    us a lot of shit. I'm hoping that the finale is two hours at least.

  • 1:39:19

    I would like that too. We'll see. Yeah, I'm not mad at that. That would

  • 1:39:22

    be awesome. Wait till they night of us and it's a hung jury and everyone

  • 1:39:26

    gets off and then we just don't know. You got to figure out who did

  • 1:39:29

    it yourself. Don't bring that up again, Rory. I hated the ending. Because they really

  • 1:39:32

    had the potential to do some great things and the ending just got to, nigga,

  • 1:39:35

    what the fuck? Let us figure it out ourselves. Like, who do you think? Oh,

  • 1:39:38

    I hate it. The same way I hated the Sopranos ending, I like now. The

  • 1:39:42

    same way I hated the Night Of ending, I like now. They better not do

  • 1:39:45

    this with Undoing though. I like the Night Of ending. Have you guys been doing

  • 1:39:48

    Fargo or no? no he's telling me to watch it but i haven't it's good

  • 1:39:52

    no a lot of people telling me oh that's real good and they're going beyond

  • 1:39:56

    10 episodes which i thought was interesting i thought this was gonna be the finale

  • 1:40:00

    and then it's like oh no there's a whole new all right cool how's uh

  • 1:40:04

    how's chris rock doing he's bodied it okay yeah who wins the uh joe budden

  • 1:40:08

    will smith versus will smith see joe i love you that was fast will smith

  • 1:40:12

    have you ever got jiggy with it but i don't know that will smith beats

  • 1:40:16

    me parents just don't understand might be pumping up It wouldn't. It wouldn't. See, it's

  • 1:40:21

    blasphemous. That's why I don't have you talk to him. Parents just don't understand, though.

  • 1:40:26

    That's a strong number two. Down to Miami or whatever that record was. Summertime was

  • 1:40:31

    up there somewhere, too. Yeah, Will Smith gets you. Here's the Fresh Prince intro, too.

  • 1:40:35

    I think I vote Summertime, too. but i don't know if it should you're not

  • 1:40:41

    beating the fresh prince pump it up pump it up should be summertime but then

  • 1:40:45

    getting jiggy with it wait he can play the fresh prince theme song he's rapping

  • 1:40:50

    oh man i gotta do a show call quincy wait was i in power wait

  • 1:40:55

    what shows was i in i had to wait no so you got salad that's

  • 1:41:00

    my song the love and hip-hop intro same record iconic pump it up That was

  • 1:41:06

    a good impression, Marks. No, Wally and Mark! It's a love and hip-hop

  • 1:41:11

    beat. I am not playing a love and hip-hop song against the Fresh

  • 1:41:17

    Prince theme song. Yes, you are. What was the couple's therapy one? Look

  • 1:41:23

    at you watching me on TV. The couple's there. Yo, shut up, Rory. I

  • 1:41:29

    couldn't remember. I didn't do a cooler show than that. Than what? No. Just loving

  • 1:41:34

    hip hop. I got to do a show. Yeah. What was the little gif in

  • 1:41:39

    the move they made you do on Couples Therapy? I'll play my podcast, Preem's Song.

  • 1:41:44

    Wow, that's amazing. I just don't know what's beating Fresh Prince. And I think Preem

  • 1:41:49

    would go, no. What Will going to do when up in the club? Come on,

  • 1:41:54

    though. Yeah, yeah, me yummy yummy. Yeah, see that's why I

  • 1:41:59

    don't know what was the um what what give me not gonna get jiggy with

  • 1:42:05

    what I win up in the club verse getting jiggy with it but it's a

  • 1:42:10

    bigger song. Oh no the men in black record. I went oh I'm out of

  • 1:42:16

    here I'm done. I won man. That men in black record was good. I win

  • 1:42:21

    3-1. He flipped forgive me not. Wild Wild West is getting you the

  • 1:42:27

    fuck out of here. What I was on, I could play.

  • 1:42:33

    i told you you could be mems

  • 1:42:39

    no but i gotta be somebody else

  • 1:42:44

    though don't do that to men i

  • 1:42:49

    want to be someone i want to

  • 1:42:55

    be somebody they think i can't beat

  • 1:43:00

    like Like, "Aww, that's why I said Will, but fuck it." Yeah, no Will, no.

  • 1:43:05

    I was reaching. I'm sorry. Fine. Somebody from your era, though. I'll be the son.

  • 1:43:10

    Take that, Jaden. I don't know. Jaden been putting out some shit. Jaden got good

  • 1:43:15

    records, but I don't know if he has a record as big as Pump It

  • 1:43:20

    Up. No, definitely doesn't. fellow colors oranges could be all right i'm not sick

  • 1:43:25

    of you who are you you got an album coming who you could beat

  • 1:43:31

    uh we shall see what emotional oranges could be people personal doing numbers yeah

  • 1:43:36

    the bad apples yeah yeah i might like that i might like that apple

  • 1:43:42

    yeah shout out to emotional oranges all right what was i getting to anything

  • 1:43:48

    important The undoing is out of here. Maul could kill in a versus if you

  • 1:43:53

    go by like his affiliates. True. If he could play everything from affiliates, Maul is

  • 1:43:57

    tough to beat. I'm going to get somebody out of here? Yeah, Maul is tough

  • 1:44:02

    to beat in a versus. His affiliates. When Maul throw on PSA. Maul did write

  • 1:44:06

    the Emil album. Joe is so disrespectful, man. You are so disrespectful, man. If you

  • 1:44:11

    could pick a chick, if you could pick a chick that you have what it

  • 1:44:15

    goes for, who would you pick? Who would fancy your style? Hmm. that

  • 1:44:21

    i would like to or would have liked to that's a good question all

  • 1:44:27

    right think about it yeah i'm trying to think of thinking about the artist

  • 1:44:33

    that tell tell me at the end of this podcast thanksgiving plans anybody anybody

  • 1:44:38

    anybody anybody no family thing friendsgiving it's a family affair i'm vegan now so

  • 1:44:44

    everybody's been texting me making vegan jokes so my sexy love remix against that

  • 1:44:50

    niggas what was that an official will No. Just because you rapped on... He

  • 1:44:56

    said your shit was official, bro. He said your remix was official. Anybody can rap

  • 1:45:02

    on it. Did you hear that? Neo didn't ask you to do that. Any rapper

  • 1:45:08

    can rap on it. Neo didn't ask you to do that, bro. You do

  • 1:45:14

    it then, nigga. You want to keep talking shit. You do it then. Yeah, I'm

  • 1:45:19

    sick of him now. Come on, get your shit off. Album's coming soon, man. Now,

  • 1:45:25

    Cock that back. Here's a story from Rory. Bitches, they kind of bore me. And

  • 1:45:30

    they a little whorey. But I'm hot. They want more of me. See, I'm already

  • 1:45:35

    playing this in person. Come on, pick it up. What do you have with yours,

  • 1:45:41

    Rory? Nah, that's cool. They're not ready. What would you tell them? Nothing? No. Parks,

  • 1:45:45

    huh? What you and GIF doing on this one? Nah. Exactly. Shut the fuck up

  • 1:45:49

    about my catalog. It's a free spell. We were just saying in comparison. Don't say

  • 1:45:53

    comparison until you can comparison. I'm sick of y'all now. No, you're right. My bad,

  • 1:45:57

    bro. I know that's a sensitive subject. I'm sorry about that. Damn it. stay scheming

  • 1:46:03

    about the neos what are you gonna do when making a murderer comes up go

  • 1:46:08

    hang out with drake i just want drake to stop sending snow a leg with

  • 1:46:13

    things he he has he will he has a lot of inventory he just will

  • 1:46:19

    not stop mailing no smoke more candles like we're at top i mean candles burn

  • 1:46:24

    in a pandemic dude look at my baby i mean look at snow yeah but

  • 1:46:29

    that's not my baby let me stop that but look at snow

  • 1:46:35

    You got something now on Clubhouse. You win a Grammy from me, Snow. I'd like

  • 1:46:40

    to find out why she wasn't nominated, honestly. I don't think it made it in

  • 1:46:44

    the right time. Why wasn't she nominated last year? Or was she and we're just

  • 1:46:49

    stupid? That could be it. Okay. And look at that green. I'm betting on us

  • 1:46:53

    being stupid. Yeah, we're stupid. That's the Ivy Park. Did you guys buy your ladies

  • 1:46:58

    the Ivy Park? Everyone in the room? No? No, but if I had a lady

  • 1:47:03

    to buy for, I would. You guys are so foolish. Mo, how would we know

  • 1:47:07

    if that ever happened? You are so foolish. You gotta have a lady? How would

  • 1:47:12

    we know? We'll tell you. Oh, okay. I'm confident in that. Yeah, find a girl.

  • 1:47:16

    I'll tell y'all. I'm all leaving money bags under my chick shit still. Still? And

  • 1:47:20

    you're getting 34 people engaging with that. 34 people? They agree with that? You got

  • 1:47:25

    to chill out. I just like the color. I found some of your little licks

  • 1:47:31

    on there, though. I found them. And I'm there. Reaching out. Yo, Miami, this weekend,

  • 1:47:37

    what you think? It's fucked up now.

  • 1:47:43

    All the chicks I put in all this vacation work with two months ago now,

  • 1:47:47

    like their kids got COVID. They got to be parents. Yeah. I hate when they

  • 1:47:52

    have to do that. Fuck. You got to take care of your kids. Look at

  • 1:47:56

    what you get mad at. I'm kidding. Comedy style. Comedy style. Comedy style. Is there

  • 1:48:00

    anything else that we need to get to that the people just... Shout out to

  • 1:48:04

    the first all-black referee officiating team in the NFL last night. Crazy it took us

  • 1:48:08

    long, but you know. Yeah. Absolutely. Congrats. Yeah. Saw a headline that said Jeezy and

  • 1:48:14

    Gucci did more numbers than the VMAs and the Billboard Awards, and I'm not really

  • 1:48:20

    surprised. Shocked me at all. Oh, that's a good idea. Trevor Noah's hosting the Grammys.

  • 1:48:25

    We didn't touch on that in our Grammy breakdown. I think that's pretty cool. All

  • 1:48:31

    right, he better not Trevor Noah it. He better get into his bag. Calling Trevor

  • 1:48:37

    Noah? Yes, Roy. Okay. I'm calling Trevor Noah. They shut down a swingers club in

  • 1:48:42

    Astoria last weekend. Mm-hmm. Wait, that wasn't a story? I didn't know there was

  • 1:48:48

    a swingers. That shit looked nuts. Your call has been forwarded to... Yo, that headline,

  • 1:48:53

    it was a couple fucking no mask face-to-face and spread the COVID? What was the

  • 1:48:59

    full story? Oh, I don't know. There was 80 people there, though. Yeah, but something

  • 1:49:04

    specifically happened where there was a couple that decided to take their mask off and

  • 1:49:09

    really get in their bag, and then that spread everything. Damn. Yeah,

  • 1:49:15

    I can't believe that the COVID cases in Atlanta are so down. See, I'd be

  • 1:49:20

    overpaying for the pussy. I told you. Let's go to the Swingers Club. $500 all

  • 1:49:24

    night. All night. I think it was less than that. No, I'm looking at the

  • 1:49:28

    menu. I'm looking at the menu. The pussy menu? Yeah, it says VIP room bill.

  • 1:49:33

    $30 for 10 minutes. Me, Rory, and Parks don't do that. $50 for 20 minutes.

  • 1:49:37

    But we don't pay for vagina mall. $60 for half hour. Yo, have you guys

  • 1:49:42

    heard of a vajayshul? No, what is that? That sounds really intriguing. Yeah, they sit

  • 1:49:46

    on us like they see me. Does she rub her vagina on your face? Fam.

  • 1:49:50

    It's for women, Rory. Oh, okay. I thought it was for us when they... No,

  • 1:49:53

    no, no. Because I think there's probably a lot of good chemicals in vagina that

  • 1:49:57

    would help with our skin. Oh, yeah, yeah. Depends on who it is. Some bad

  • 1:50:01

    chemicals in some of them. You've never had a chick ride your face and you

  • 1:50:04

    were glowing the next day? Boy, we go left so fast. Looking like a glazed

  • 1:50:08

    donut. Tell us all about the vaginal, Joe. Never mind. No, now you got to

  • 1:50:11

    tell us. Is it skincare for the vagina? Yes. it's like it's a rejuvenation it's

  • 1:50:16

    like a steam snap that back let's just let's just move on let's just

  • 1:50:22

    go no you were saying and i don't remember where i was going so

  • 1:50:28

    the vegetation i'm just going to play getting bored j-show just forget

  • 1:50:34

    it no they should take care of their it's fine you guys are internal

  • 1:50:40

    organs what else is important before we go could you guys make a joke

  • 1:50:45

    everything still joking around fucking so mature no science let's see Trump finally letting

  • 1:50:51

    go of office maybe maybe that's a that's a mall question no fuck I

  • 1:50:57

    lost 30 times in one let's not rile them up please NBA trades. Hey,

  • 1:51:03

    yeah, how you feeling? I see a Lakers repeat that puts LeBron at five Yes,

  • 1:51:08

    and then Corey's gonna hear my mouth when the wrong when LeBron gets to five

  • 1:51:13

    you're gonna hear me I'm silent right now cuz I know that the ring argument

  • 1:51:18

    when he gets to five Some of you old heads gonna have to have a

  • 1:51:23

    talk with yourselves. No, they'll discredit him because of the bubble just telling you that

  • 1:51:28

    now not For the percentage more what does the conversation look like if he finds

  • 1:51:33

    a way to get to six? I Then he has the COVID ring will always

  • 1:51:38

    be, you know, that conversation that people talk about, but it will be. They deserved

  • 1:51:42

    it. They wasn't playing hard in the bubble. No, I'm just saying it's going to

  • 1:51:46

    because it was such a different. I'll tell you what they all. It was a

  • 1:51:50

    tougher ring to win. Some people say that. I'm some people. Yeah, I could see

  • 1:51:56

    that. The circumstances. Would it have been different if Craig Elo and them was in

  • 1:52:01

    there? All of Mike's rivals. I'm not comparing. No, I'm not. I'm not comparing Mike

  • 1:52:07

    to what would happen if Dan Marley showed up. Wow. Curse like fucking Mike.

  • 1:52:12

    Why do you like Michael Jackson? Yo, don't do that, boy. No, you really don't

  • 1:52:16

    like Michael. Don't do that. I love Michael. I think it's the next thing. The

  • 1:52:20

    90s. I get it. Don't do that. But I'm not. I don't compare. Mike is

  • 1:52:24

    the greatest. But we're going to have to just acknowledge certain things if LeBron get

  • 1:52:28

    one or two more. We wouldn't have to acknowledge anything. Just the ring count six.

  • 1:52:32

    Okay. If you want to argue that. You think LeBron couldn't have had his way

  • 1:52:36

    with dead left shrimp? I mean, if we don't have that problem, I

  • 1:52:42

    saw LeBron. I haven't heard that. Maybe brought up. Maybe Brad Doherty would have been

  • 1:52:47

    the LeBron stopper. I mean, I saw LeBron. I don't get the fuck out of

  • 1:52:52

    here with this shit. No, LeBron struggled. Shut up. He struggled with Paul Pierce before

  • 1:52:57

    he went to Miami. Couldn't get past Boston. Let's talk about it. Four. That's a

  • 1:53:02

    very respectable four. No, absolutely. And y'all got me sounding like I'm a LeBron dick

  • 1:53:07

    ride. I'm not. No, I don't compare him and Mike. I'm not one of those

  • 1:53:12

    guys. Do we acknowledge the LeBron A&R, your album curse? What was the curse? Oh,

  • 1:53:16

    nothing, if you don't see it. It's the one you told me about last week.

  • 1:53:20

    Oh. What was the one last week? You got to wait for the deluxe. You

  • 1:53:23

    got to wait for the deluxe. The one we kicked it about. You brought it

  • 1:53:27

    to my attention about how LeBron, every time he do your shit. Yeah, you got

  • 1:53:30

    to wait for the deluxe. Look at him all trying not to piss Maverick off.

  • 1:53:34

    You got to wait for the deluxe. You know what's kind of funny, though? You

  • 1:53:37

    did. That's another thing you started that we don't bring up. LeBron's A&R shit. The

  • 1:53:41

    first time I've ever seen him rock with that face that he does when he

  • 1:53:45

    hears an album was to your record. No, he's done it before that. No, it

  • 1:53:49

    definitely wasn't. He did. And I don't get, I don't, I don't take that from

  • 1:53:53

    him because he's, he has been a music guy from as soon as I saw

  • 1:53:57

    him in high school. I'm saying how he started with the social shits was off

  • 1:54:00

    your shit, but best thing that you know, I was trying to pick you up.

  • 1:54:04

    Hey, do we want to take it? That's good. We have a prosecute Zion's family

  • 1:54:08

    for taking that money or not. Yeah. Or did that just go under the rug?

  • 1:54:13

    Did we just worry about the Steve Adams signing? As opposed to who else's family

  • 1:54:19

    took money. No, LeBron did this. LeBron's mom was driving around in a yellow Hummer

  • 1:54:24

    when I was in high school. LeBron had a G-Wagon. He had a Walkman. A

  • 1:54:29

    Walkman? A Walkman. Nigga had a Walkman. Oh, nah, nah, somebody got you. Well, he

  • 1:54:34

    had a Walkman in 20, what, 09, 2009? No, younger than that. LeBron was in

  • 1:54:39

    high school in 2000 and... Three? LeBron is a welcome man. LeBron is that dude.

  • 1:54:44

    Yeah, no, I was in junior high. Yeah, I feel like a Lakers repeat. I

  • 1:54:49

    see the Knicks acquiring mad draft picks, and that's about all I care about. I

  • 1:54:54

    see the Nets trying to really be serious about whatever they're doing. And Covington to

  • 1:54:58

    the Blazers is big time. Yeah. That's what I think. I think more importantly, people

  • 1:55:03

    not paying attention. That Kelly Oubre to the Warriors was a big pickup for them.

  • 1:55:08

    That clay injury hurts still. Yeah, that hurts. But Kelly Oubre as a future piece

  • 1:55:13

    with that team is big. You really liked Chris Paul going to Phoenix as well.

  • 1:55:17

    Oh, yeah. Him and Devin Booker is tough. And DeAndre Ayton. They got a nice

  • 1:55:22

    teammate working on down there. And the season starts next month. This is nuts. Yeah.

  • 1:55:26

    Yeah, it's weird. Are y'all prepared for the new lockdown that is rumored to be

  • 1:55:31

    coming, but we know is really coming? It's coming. It's coming. Cuomo said it's coming

  • 1:55:34

    December 1st, right? I think they're just trying to drag out the holiday season as

  • 1:55:38

    long as possible. But what do they mean when they say lockdown? Stay in the

  • 1:55:42

    house again? No, I think... Or just restaurants are closed and do what you want?

  • 1:55:45

    Restaurants are closed. Social shit will be over. All that social shit is closed. I've

  • 1:55:49

    been being a restaurant hoe in light of this news. I've been going out to

  • 1:55:52

    dinner and shit because I'm like, all right, they're about to lock us in again.

  • 1:55:56

    I'm not mad at that. i haven't been out to a restaurant in six months

  • 1:56:00

    how long do y'all think this uh this new lockdown will last until trump concedes

  • 1:56:05

    how about the rest of you guys yeah how about uh i think they have

  • 1:56:09

    to do it for at least like six weeks i would think i think right

  • 1:56:14

    now is the perfect time to do it because december goes into the holiday when

  • 1:56:18

    most people will actually just be home yeah so yeah let's let's sit down for

  • 1:56:23

    a little bit come back after the new year and see where we're at I

  • 1:56:27

    think this is a good time to actually do this. I think we're in and

  • 1:56:31

    out of lockdown the whole 2021. Oh, that for certain. At least nine months. That

  • 1:56:34

    for certain. No, I think until next year. 2021? Yeah, this year. Entire lockdown? No,

  • 1:56:38

    I think we'll come in and out of it the same way we did. We

  • 1:56:41

    said the same thing in the beginning of this year. Oh, man, how can they

  • 1:56:44

    do us? They're not going to lock us in all year. And we've been locked

  • 1:56:48

    in after all year. Oh, well, you mean lockdown and lockdown? restaurants will be open

  • 1:56:52

    until a certain time like curfew type of thing. Yeah, that'll happen. No, no, that'll

  • 1:56:56

    happen later. This is going to fluctuate as it should with the disease. Yeah. But

  • 1:57:01

    the days of us just going out and turning it up and having options, that's...

  • 1:57:05

    I mean, unless the vaccine works and it comes out quickly and people take it.

  • 1:57:09

    They said the vaccine is given in two doses. The first dose, you'll feel every

  • 1:57:14

    side effect and the second dose, you should be okay about a month later. I'm

  • 1:57:18

    cool. Very irresponsible of me to spew that on my platform here, but I am

  • 1:57:23

    cool on that. I need more information, but I will probably get the vaccine. Rory,

  • 1:57:28

    that's going to kill all your little fiber diet nutrients that you're taking, your fiber

  • 1:57:32

    brownies. You're going to be shitting for a week. A nigga that needs fiber brownies

  • 1:57:37

    can't beat me up, Rory. You better stop threatening me. I will not let fiber

  • 1:57:42

    edible man over here. A fedible. This nigga's eating fedibles. I will send

  • 1:57:48

    you smooth up the street. Joe, you have been six months. I have

  • 1:57:54

    been in world boxing gym this entire year. I'm in the best shape

  • 1:57:59

    of my life. I will whoop your ass. He just can't shit, but

  • 1:58:05

    he's in the best shape of his life. I will slide you

  • 1:58:11

    up the street with your little world boxing training. You in the world boxing gym?

  • 1:58:15

    You in the world boxing training. Oh, you in the world boxing gym, Jersey City,

  • 1:58:19

    we in right now then? No. Exactly. Nigga, the street outside. I ain't got to

  • 1:58:24

    go to Jersey City. We can move this back. You scared of Jersey City? Fuck

  • 1:58:28

    up the cameras. No. But I'm not going over there. What else is going on?

  • 1:58:33

    I'm just talking shit. What else is up? I think that's everything that I had

  • 1:58:38

    that's important. Lockdown, you guys don't care. Global warming, you guys don't care. Trump not

  • 1:58:43

    letting you go, you guys don't care. What else? What else is here? Biden picked

  • 1:58:49

    his cabinet today, right? Or some of it. He's been picking it all week. Half

  • 1:58:54

    of the cab? Yeah, he's been picking the cab all week. He opened the cabinet.

  • 1:58:59

    he's not gonna decide what he wants to put into it yeah hasn't been any

  • 1:59:04

    uh he's that trader joe's very famous people on there that i've seen so far

  • 1:59:09

    famous people well i mean like other politicians that he was going against or anything

  • 1:59:13

    like that so i don't have much analysis on that we'll see we shall see

  • 1:59:18

    next week uh next podcast i'm coming in here to do a throat baby lyric

  • 1:59:23

    breakdown that's your i just i'm late to the party here i had no idea

  • 1:59:28

    about that record until about three weeks ago and then i learned the dude is

  • 1:59:33

    on uh lv and um what's just i should have asked him about it what's

  • 1:59:38

    just your lv what lvr lvrn yeah so apparently the throw baby song was bubbling

  • 1:59:42

    atlanta for mad long and now it's made his way over here and everybody's singing

  • 1:59:47

    it but i just heard it for the first time three weeks ago and i

  • 1:59:51

    was amazed at the lyrics and the chords i normally lean on rory to put

  • 1:59:56

    me on to the songs that i would never hear but i should hear And

  • 2:00:01

    he didn't. I thought you knew about this. This was popular. I didn't think I

  • 2:00:05

    needed to put you onto this record because it got so popular. I figured whoever

  • 2:00:10

    you had, you was chilling with, you know, the throat baby. The throat babies you'd

  • 2:00:15

    be with would have put you onto this record. Nah, they just get right to

  • 2:00:20

    throatin'. They're not putting me onto the joints. They just get right to that Necolator

  • 2:00:25

    3000. Like that aggressive shit. I prefer to be corny. Why does head drive us

  • 2:00:30

    crazy? Yeah, but like that's not right there it shouldn't do that to us

  • 2:00:36

    We should have more control over our bodies. I get the shivering right on it

  • 2:00:42

    right on her. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I start shaking dies No, my whole body have

  • 2:00:48

    a convulsion Y'all don't do that whole body convulse it depends sometimes it's happened. Yeah,

  • 2:00:54

    like you're being electrocuted. Yeah, that's the best nice Yeah, like when you you finish

  • 2:01:00

    and then she keep going. Oh It's almost painful.

  • 2:01:06

    At your most vulnerable place. Oh, stop. Then you gotta do a wet butt

  • 2:01:11

    walk to the bathroom. You gotta walk like a penguin. Hear that squishy sound

  • 2:01:17

    between your cheeks? Savon don't know nothing about that. At all. That nigga ass

  • 2:01:23

    don't be wet. Savon never walked on his tippy toes to the bathroom.

  • 2:01:29

    No, when your ass is wet, you got to walk on your heels only. Your

  • 2:01:35

    toes be up. No, you let it set in that way. You got to keep

  • 2:01:41

    it high. Yeah. He never fucked with Charlie Lawrence. What? Fuck, I drank Pedialyte afterwards.

  • 2:01:47

    Just get that on Alexa. Lori's in there giving up all his fiber. That's why

  • 2:01:52

    I don't have any left. Oh, I miss you, throat baby. Oh, my God.

  • 2:01:59

    What? Nah, listen, listen. That's what they call themselves. Don't be so prideful. Nah, they

  • 2:02:04

    waiting till the NBA trade is done before they hit me back. Smart. Gotta see

  • 2:02:10

    where they gonna be at next. They waiting to see who land where. Chicks will

  • 2:02:15

    tell you exactly who they was fucking to. I don't want to say anything.

  • 2:02:22

    And then say everything well fucking this guy won't tell you his name, but he

  • 2:02:27

    was on the Jets and now he's on the box Who got traded oh Awesome.

  • 2:02:32

    Awesome. Oh y'all. Do y'all have a friends giving to attend? No. No. Yeah, I

  • 2:02:37

    don't yeah hanging out in the story with friends the homies I see you go

  • 2:02:43

    keep it light. Maybe do a little zoom with the family upstate. Oh And we're

  • 2:02:48

    going to do a pod the day after Thanksgiving, huh? We are. If you guys

  • 2:02:52

    are down, I'm down. I'm down. Gotta feed the streets. It'll be quick. But I'm

  • 2:02:57

    down. Just feed them. Yeah, let's feed the streets. All right, I'm done here. I'm

  • 2:03:01

    done with this podcast. Friday will be our Friendsgiving. Aw, man. Simon ordered some turkey

  • 2:03:05

    and... Yeah, bring some apples. Don't do that stupid shit you did a few weeks

  • 2:03:11

    ago where you put the metal buffet plates out there with chips. Don't do that

  • 2:03:16

    again. Where I thought lasagna was over there. You're going to get fired. Honestly. You

  • 2:03:22

    had trays of Lays? No, that's what happened. Yo! You don't come early, so you

  • 2:03:26

    don't know. I walked in upset. I ate before the podcast. I walk in to

  • 2:03:30

    see all these trays with the Bunsen burners under. I was like, oh, shit. Wait,

  • 2:03:34

    I didn't know he was getting catered. I wouldn't have ate. I would have got

  • 2:03:38

    a plate. So I was like, that's cool. I'll do seconds. Grab a plate. Open

  • 2:03:42

    the shit. It's barbecue potato chips. Yeah. under the the fire heat it just

  • 2:03:48

    said barbecue on top too so you're like oh yeah

  • 2:03:53

    barbecue chicken say you're skating on thin ice buddy i

  • 2:03:59

    don't i don't know if you noticed the number potato

  • 2:04:04

    all right with that being said i guess i have

  • 2:04:10

    to find a sleeper Well, if everyone brings leftovers from whatever their

  • 2:04:16

    Thanksgiving is on Friday, we could just do a leftover... I like it. A left-giving?

  • 2:04:22

    Yeah, a left-giving. What do vegans eat on Thanksgiving? Oyster mushrooms. Bread. Kale. Fiber. I

  • 2:04:27

    don't think there is fiber in bread. That might be your problem. Oh, they told

  • 2:04:33

    me there was bad fiber in it. You're going the wrong route. No, just get

  • 2:04:39

    some apples, Rory. You'll be alright. I eat really well. Not what your doctor

  • 2:04:45

    says, buddy. No, it's in my hereditary genes that we just don't have fiber in

  • 2:04:49

    our bodies. The only thing hereditary is your diet. Remember that. That's not true. That's

  • 2:04:54

    not accurate. Okay. Anyone that's listening, that's not accurate at all. It is. You eat

  • 2:04:59

    what you was taught to eat. Right or wrong? I'm saying that I eat extremely

  • 2:05:03

    well, that my body hereditarily does not have enough fiber in it. So even if

  • 2:05:08

    I eat more fiber than the average person or eat really well, I still will

  • 2:05:12

    lack fiber. My body has no fiber because of my lineage of... Your body doesn't

  • 2:05:18

    probably digest fiber properly. That's actually the issue. The men in my family just don't

  • 2:05:23

    have... The ferals have no fiber. The fiber ferals. That's just who we are. I

  • 2:05:28

    don't know if it's from the potato famine. I don't know what it's from. It

  • 2:05:34

    probably is. Did you say famine? I did. Shout out to Rasheed and Buck. My

  • 2:05:39

    people's reign. You already know. What the fuck is wrong with you, man? Well, I

  • 2:05:45

    can't encourage my guy, man. I'm sitting here admiring artwork. That is

  • 2:05:50

    nice artwork. And I do appreciate when the people come out with

  • 2:05:56

    nice artwork. I do. Yo, so I forgot who came out and

  • 2:06:01

    said that Kanye, my dark, beautiful, twisted fantasy, his album of the

  • 2:06:07

    decade. Any complaints about that? No. None from me. Goes back to

  • 2:06:13

    me and Corey's argument however many years ago in Edgewater.

  • 2:06:19

    There's a take there's arguments, but take care and one of those Kendrick albums and

  • 2:06:24

    those will be my three for the decade I'm not mad at a good kid

  • 2:06:29

    mad city. Take care and my beautiful darts Those are the three albums from the

  • 2:06:34

    three artists that should have given us the soundtrack for the decade. It's a blonde.

  • 2:06:39

    Oh, huh? Yeah Yes, that's that shit. Yeah and Teflon Don. You're absolutely right. Yeah,

  • 2:06:44

    I Roy, we got late breaking news about Barack Obama and the Breakfast

  • 2:06:50

    Club, right? Yeah, they just dropped the trailer, which ends with Charlamagne asking Barack Obama

  • 2:06:55

    what he did for systemic racism and black people during his term. And then the

  • 2:07:01

    trailer ends. Cliffhanger, huh? Yeah, that's what trailers do. All three of them look great.

  • 2:07:07

    This looks super clean. What a great look. Really happy for them. Happy for us

  • 2:07:12

    that we get to hear from Barack. Breakfast Club has the author press run sewn

  • 2:07:18

    up. They do. Yeah, and Brock's on a little bit of a press run himself,

  • 2:07:22

    period, right now. He's on Colbert tonight, last night, if you're listening to this. Yeah,

  • 2:07:27

    there's been a couple clips out with different media outlets. He did LeBron, too. I

  • 2:07:32

    can't understand why he wouldn't come to Park's house. Right. Shout out Breakfast Club. Well

  • 2:07:37

    deserved. Looking forward to hearing Obama on that. Y'all thought Obama was just going to

  • 2:07:42

    sit by idly and watch Michelle sell all the books alone. Y'all had that plan

  • 2:07:48

    wrong from the jump. Yeah. You got to sell his side of the story. I

  • 2:07:53

    mean, his first book is called The Audacity, so I get it. Y'all want to

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    thank y'all for listening. Thank y'all for rocking with us this week. We'll be back

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    same time, same place. That's Saturday. You know the vibes.

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    Remember, keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there until the

  • 2:08:14

    next time I bid you adieu. Farewell. Adios. Hasta la vista. So long. Goodbye. One

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    deuces. Life is a series of moments and moments past. So let's make this one

  • 2:08:23

    last as if it's all we have. Shout out to Cash App. Thank you so

  • 2:08:27

    much. Shout out to all black-owned businesses. Shout out to all black women. Shout out

  • 2:08:31

    to all the creators. That's the vibe I'm on. Shout out to everybody that caught

  • 2:08:35

    COVID, got rid of COVID. Shout out to everybody that lost somebody due to COVID.

  • 2:08:39

    Again, shout out to everybody that may be having a hard time with the holidays

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    rolling around. I know what that pain feels like. And we'll be back on Saturday,

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    man. 100.