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Episode 398

Clout Is Not Currency

Joe Budden Podcast Episode 398, “Clout Is Not Currency,” released December 14, 2020. On this episode: A bunch of new music was released but Joe and the guys begin with a review of Kid Cudi's latest project, "Man of the Moon III" (1:49). Also, the guys share their theories on people going to the moon (1:25:13), Lil Wayne facing major charges again (1:32:00), and Bill Simmons trying to start a union within his podcast network (2:10:15) and more! Full transcript and searchable timestamps below.

Clout Is Not Currency

In this episode

  • 1:49On this episode: A bunch of new music was released but Joe and the guys begin with a review of Kid Cudi's late…
  • 1:25:13The guys share their theories on people going to the moon
  • 1:32:00Lil Wayne facing major charges again
  • 2:10:15Bill Simmons trying to start a union within his podcast network
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Joe Budden Podcast Ep. 398 Transcript

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    all right go

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    no

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    microphone

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    actually you come back

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    park microphone check one two what is

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    this the jbp

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    boys bike to business welcome to episode

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    398 of the joe budden podcast i'm your

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    humble gracious great for my highly

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    favorite host joe budden

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    here with a few of my nearest and

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    dearest good brother maul is here today

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    how you doing i'm good family how are

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    you

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    good i'm real good love the fall colors

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    you got going on today a lot of feng

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    shui you're doing that

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    you're doing that man i love good tones

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    no i'm feeling that we getting right to

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    it today parks how you doing i'm doing

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    well

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    glad to hear it rory what's going on

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    with you good man i can't complain cash

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    up

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    e-rab on the boards huh you know the

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    vibes when e-rab is back there

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    savannah's here corey is here

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    alex the greatest here everybody's doing

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    fine so let's get right to the shits huh

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    new kid cuddy

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    go how you feeling joey the king

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    the king is back this podcast is

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    sponsored by man

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    oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah we

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    enabled by our favorite app cache app

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    you know the vibes and with that being

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    said

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    new kid cudi i actually think cuddy was

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    one of if not the first artist

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    to send money via an app on a phone

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    probably so

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    tell tell the people your little inside

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    joke that you guys are going to continue

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    for the next cut for the next three

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    hours i've been saying on this podcast

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    for years that cuddy

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    is the reason for how music sounds now

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    let's get to the real [ __ ] man who's an

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    atheist

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    not me i have

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    i'll [ __ ] with a beliefs beliefs i

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    believe [ __ ] uh no come on let's get

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    right into it new music

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    aliens oh hmm aliens oh rory's got

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    breaking alien news

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    i didn't break the news have y'all not

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    been paying attention the aliens are

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    here

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    well there are a lot of uh tell us tell

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    us

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    inform inform the listeners former uh is

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    that does that say israel

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    yes israeli okay former israeli space

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    security chief

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    says extraterrestrial exists and trump

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    knew about it

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    but he was able to say extraterrestrials

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    but not israeli

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    because mo i'm an american

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    these colors don't these colors don't

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    run oh my god

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    these colors don't run

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    your man knew about it the whole time

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    maul of course aliens exist who doesn't

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    think that

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    no but they're here like they're

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    chilling and actually i think you owe

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    parks

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    joe myself and i think the rest of the

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    roman apology yeah you are not going to

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    storm area 51 with us uh when we brought

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    up what was that six months ago

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    yeah i wasn't going either it was the uh

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    wikileaks guy that said they don't exist

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    he was doing all his hacking and

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    couldn't find no wikipedia you can do

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    that on your own

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    yeah it's true no aliens exist yeah yeah

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    aliens exist

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    and they said that we're just not ready

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    for them do you guys believe in portals

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    pornos like do you believe there's like

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    hidden portals in the

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    in the world that take you other places

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    and other dimensions

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    ah no i'm a little i'm not saying it's

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    impossible but i'm not

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    sold on that i do you ever been to

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    broadway junction possible it's a weird

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    broadway junction yes so there's a

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    portal under the hood what was that [ __ ]

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    called back in the day with the dude

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    travel through time and went into

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    alternate universes as a different guy

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    back to the future no [ __ ] character

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    there was there was a real story of and

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    i watched the classic shot on the fly

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    don't get me started don't rock don't

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    rally

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    don't rock the boat oh yeah don't do

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    that please don't do that listen shout

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    out to our soundcloud listenership shout

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    out to our apple listenership shout out

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    to our youtube viewership

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    uh pardon me uh subscribe right here

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    swipe up down

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    subscribe add all of that all of that

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    [ __ ] that the youtubers are supposed to

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    say

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    uh now where were we aliens are here got

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    it and right uh

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    there's some doc watch it about a guy

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    that went up on a ski lift for

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    to ski and ended up the next day in

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    california with all his ski equipment on

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    so i do believe that yes portals exist

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    you know well let's just throw this

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    whole podcast out of whack and do [ __ ]

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    out of order

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    let's do what that just made me think of

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    your honor show and i did watch it

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    i did too you watched fire you watched i

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    didn't watch fire

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    why are you always the last one to the

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    watch this show but that's a that's a

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    fairly new

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    it's it's feeling i'm doing it all the

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    time though yeah oh well i don't know

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    about that

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    but yeah this show a lot of people

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    haven't seen you on it yet and there's

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    only one episode in harry's not watching

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    television at home you guys

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    no i'm not really tv guys

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    i have a couple the tvs look at rory now

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    that is a really good show great one

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    episode in a

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    great episode yeah because we don't know

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    how it's going to play out but

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    you know uh i forgot his name was the uh

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    the judge's name

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    uh from breaking bad brian chris yeah

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    so they have the actors that have been

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    in legendary shows

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    i just like where it's going so far i

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    get it it's episode

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    one because what a s what a storyline

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    the sun pissed me off though he

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    was just he just pissed me off he was

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    just doing something we can't do a

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    spoiler alert yeah i'm not too early we

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    can't do that but he's just still all

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    spoiled for something he's just doing

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    dumb [ __ ] it's like family

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    but great first episode yeah yeah great

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    first episode

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    really good uh really good first episode

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    this show comes on sundays

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    sundays at 10 p.m hour longer 30 minutes

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    hour oh it's lit

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    yeah i think it's only one episode 30

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    minutes okay i'll catch up i'll catch up

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    tonight

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    yeah yeah great great first episode yeah

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    when the when the fire show comes out

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    sunday it does something different

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    tonight sunday's hbo

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    sundays was always the night for this

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    one day off yeah

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    yeah good water cooler talk you know

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    what i mean it does something it does

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    uh okay come on we can get the uh the

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    rest of this [ __ ] later back to music

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    back to music

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    mall where what was your water cooler

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    huh what was your water cooler the deli

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    the ice machine in front of bodega the

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    stash

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    yeah you know the ice machine where you

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    got to get the you got to get the teeth

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    and project lobby

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    yeah that's what we talked [ __ ] that

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    right there about about a mailbox on the

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    corner

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    yeah i just just wondered what yours was

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    yeah fire hydrant

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    [ __ ] right there when we go into the

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    second lockdown are you not going to fly

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    anything in

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    or fly to something or fly to houston or

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    atlanta or vegas or pennsylvania

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    i'll probably fly somewhere yeah i want

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    to get out of new york for a while see

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    something different

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    a little light combo it's not a bad

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    a little tricky right now has anything

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    altered about

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    you guys new year's eve plans as of yet

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    or no i was still down with the origin

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    miami

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    you sold you ain't let me look at noel

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    style

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    joking yeah no no plans other than what

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    we talked about another

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    tentative plans those weren't like

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    concrete yeah i get drunk with my

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    friends

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    that's always a good idea yeah they

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    closed indoor dining again

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    so i hate to be this guy but boy do i

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    feel the depression in new york since i

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    got back from miami

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    you got to take care of this take you

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    back bro don't do that don't laugh at me

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    you feel it because everybody just feels

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    like people are out but you don't

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    feel it when you are in it and don't

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    leave it and you're conditioned and

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    you're here and

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    it's only because when you got back from

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    miami could cuddy drop

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    damn i didn't even think about it like

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    that parks he was waiting for joe

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    that wasn't a joke joe he was waiting

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    for jody depression is serious

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    they're going to drag this kid cuddy

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    thing absolutely i listen to the first

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    five

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    and i like the she knows this that's

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    probably my favorite out of the first

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    five that i heard

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    she knows this was a good record

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    internets i

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    have nothing to offer [ __ ] about this

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    particular body of work

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    it is a body of work i have no critique

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    analyzation none i got nothing for you

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    man

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    you mean like she knows this i see you

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    bopping a little bit you playing it

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    didn't get a chance to really digest it

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    okay he ain't here one of those okay

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    didn't let it yeah i mean gotta gotta

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    sit with me like this i'm just dropped

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    like album just dropped you guys come on

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    i can't come in here and when did you

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    press

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    1201 i think i'm pretty i'm if you can

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    remember i mean

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    if my recollection is right i'm pretty

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    sure that was 1201.

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    it was one after when you press play you

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    were an [ __ ] i was waiting by the

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    phone

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    yeah i know true me too me too yeah then

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    you felt like wow and i understand where

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    everyone got their style from

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    right i mean it's too early man it just

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    dropped y'all it did

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    uh it just came out it did that's what i

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    told you i heard only

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    heard the first yeah we gotta give come

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    on we gotta give our legends a fair

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    shake i heard jack harlow i like jack

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    harlow

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    i really enjoyed cutting his exactly

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    you've had no opinion on on this album

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    at all

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    gotta give our legends a fair shake man

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    can't just you can't you can't be

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    one of the music uh journalists that

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    just rush out to have a take or an

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    opinion on something sometimes you gotta

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    let things sit well

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    you bought it that's where i am now uh

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    going on seven years of podcasting

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    dominance

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    you you bought you bought the album

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    right because you support music well

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    yeah i mean

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    quick seven fights for some of that

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    if you were gonna you was there you

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    joined me on the journey if you're gonna

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    put on some like melodic [ __ ]

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    which i mean park's

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    but why you ain't hit album though he

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    heard it he had mad time to hit albums

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    cuddy's shaking in his boot got him

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    shaking in his boots

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    did y'all hear it i liked it i listened

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    to it i liked it especially the first

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    half the second half got back into his

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    more spacey vibes which i'm

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    i get it but it's not as much for me the

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    first half sounded like

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    cuddy early cuddy okay to me i enjoyed

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    it

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    you did i enjoyed it yes and i like the

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    spacey part

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    i'm not big on this basically spacey

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    part that's what we call it the spacey

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    part

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    i like the spaceship but like make it a

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    bop though which was the first half of

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    the hour no i can appreciate that

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    someone has been this sad for this long

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    yeah that's difficult that's difficult

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    that's what you gotta think about like

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    most artists

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    they'll be sad and then they'll come

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    into like wow i'm happy now i finally

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    figured out like who i am

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    and i no longer have those feelings and

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    now let's talk about mental health now

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    he's still full-fledged depressed

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    but how look at the titles of the tracks

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    beautiful trip tequila shots

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    joe could never another day that just

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    sounds like a great time how are you

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    depressed

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    she knows this she always knows this

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    then you dive

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    but then then you get damaged yeah then

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    it's heavy yeah

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    jumped in the shallow end oh sad people

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    that's where it takes a turn

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    september 16th is when she dumped him

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    joe's so mad he's not mr solo dolo

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    yeah it's a fact for the third time but

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    the first five i

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    i like she knows this out of the first

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    five i like the heavens i'm listening to

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    him

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    i like a lot of the first first half i'm

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    gonna check this i'm listening to it

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    this weekend

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    but a lot of music came out though is it

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    still in your phone from when you

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    purchased it

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    what is it about cutting that doesn't uh

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    speak to your soul

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    that joe speaks it yeah what is it not

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    this album aside i didn't say anything

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    no no but in the past

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    he didn't say a thing no no in the past

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    you've spoken about you don't really

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    vibe with cuddy's music like that can we

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    pull it up

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    when i said that can't believe you said

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    it i'm not going to i'm not going to say

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    you said something that you didn't say

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    don't recall

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    man oh okay but you seem like you don't

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    really

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    i don't recall okay all right i'ma

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    listen to it and give it a shot because

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    i like cuddy so i'm gonna give it a shot

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    same i'm not as big a cuddy's fan as

  • 12:05

    some people are but

  • 12:06

    same i'll listen to it i love this first

  • 12:08

    um the stuff in between not so much

  • 12:10

    but i enjoyed this yeah man for me it's

  • 12:13

    just the right timing for card man

  • 12:15

    well i mean that's there's that's

  • 12:16

    validity to that i hate you so much

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    tell us about the right stuff it is for

  • 12:21

    you you don't play cuddy

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    every time you're not going to the gym

  • 12:25

    and playing cuddy going for a peppy run

  • 12:28

    now you know joe is just sad and when he

  • 12:29

    hears somebody else sad he gets mad yeah

  • 12:31

    yeah i just want to be scared because

  • 12:33

    you're mad at the sad because y'all

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    going to get the cut hive to attack me

  • 12:36

    and joe hasn't said a word

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    other than i gotta check it out why are

  • 12:40

    you scared of the cut hive i'm scared of

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    all the hives parts

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    some of the houses are cool some of the

  • 12:44

    hives are cool i don't want i don't want

  • 12:46

    smoke with any of the eyes but are you

  • 12:47

    guys done with your

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    detailed kid cudi um if no one else

  • 12:52

    wants to talk about it i guess

  • 12:54

    album deep dives well like i said only

  • 12:55

    heard the first i was expecting rory to

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    really come in here and give it up

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    for he seems like especially like uh out

  • 13:01

    of the year

  • 13:01

    but now he's trying to downplay it you

  • 13:03

    know already

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    calling it yeah i mean off before i even

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    heard it yeah

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    yeah that's 1201 out of the year i'll

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    i'll get into the album this weekend

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    okay but there's a lot of new music too

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    tourists yeah there is

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    this album i love jack harlow yeah

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    sounds good

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    i was uh pleasantly surprised yeah i

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    like it too

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    sounds real good i like um drunk with a

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    little baby he also trashed

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    why no because we're not [ __ ] on it

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    you don't like jack hollow's album oh no

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    i didn't hear this one either

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    damn you only hear nothing i'm not going

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    to either why why is that because i have

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    better things to do with my time in the

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    pandemic

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    and listen to music yep that's actually

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    like the perfect thing to do

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    pandemic fly something out now they want

  • 13:46

    to tell me what to do in the pandora can

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    you all talk about jack harlow please

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    i like it sounds just like i said i

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    don't listen to this one one time but it

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    sounds good i like it i thought he'd be

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    super poppy but yeah you get he got him

  • 13:55

    some pockets

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    uh harry frog got adobe production

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    he's on two huge pop singles right now

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    so yeah but i know i know what the

  • 14:04

    wrestling music isn't isn't really don't

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    i've never listened to the rest of you

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    don't

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    jump in the white one huh

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    this is white on white crime white on

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    white music debates

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    fighting white music i mean he's no m

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    is he better than g eazy

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    no album is good i [ __ ] with the album i

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    [ __ ] with with jack harlow

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    every album that came out is good man no

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    i wouldn't say that

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    well i'm telling you something about

  • 14:29

    this week what came out that was bad

  • 14:31

    which which album didn't you like joe i

  • 14:34

    just said every album that came out this

  • 14:35

    week was good

  • 14:36

    uh but you can't say that cause you

  • 14:37

    didn't hear it and i can still say it

  • 14:40

    all right well jack hall has a good

  • 14:42

    album though it sounds good production

  • 14:44

    is good

  • 14:44

    you talking this [ __ ] on there i like it

  • 14:47

    yeah

  • 14:47

    shout out to brady got one on there i

  • 14:50

    think yeah i leave wrote something on

  • 14:51

    there with chris brown and jack too so

  • 14:52

    shout out to y'all i like that i reckon

  • 14:54

    yeah he put out a project private sweet

  • 14:55

    three i didn't hear this one yet

  • 14:57

    shout out to everyone in the industry we

  • 14:59

    have relationships with

  • 15:00

    i have no relationships with jack harlow

  • 15:04

    i didn't say nothing away i don't know

  • 15:07

    i don't know i was an artist in person

  • 15:09

    so yeah sure you got me there

  • 15:11

    no yeah i'll use my [ __ ] but i didn't

  • 15:12

    hit i didn't hit a project yet but i

  • 15:14

    will check it out though

  • 15:16

    okay somehow fetty snuck another album

  • 15:19

    out and

  • 15:20

    no one seems to know about it i had zero

  • 15:22

    clue that he was putting music out

  • 15:24

    he's put out two projects this year i

  • 15:26

    think and i don't think i've seen any

  • 15:27

    human being talk about them

  • 15:29

    and that's pretty crazy that's weird to

  • 15:31

    me that's weird but why

  • 15:33

    why is it weird when was fetty's run was

  • 15:35

    what year

  • 15:36

    i think what 2015 16 somewhere in there

  • 15:39

    yeah 15 would probably

  • 15:40

    sound about right so it's been five

  • 15:41

    years since that

  • 15:44

    colossal run that he had of just

  • 15:46

    covering billboard completely in like 10

  • 15:48

    [ __ ] hits

  • 15:49

    in one year but yeah it hasn't been that

  • 15:52

    way for

  • 15:52

    i still feel bad about that i do yeah me

  • 15:56

    too because i think there's a lot of the

  • 15:57

    music that

  • 15:57

    is is popping now and a lot of these

  • 15:59

    artists that are popping out

  • 16:01

    are offsprings of fetty i was excited i

  • 16:04

    was saying it in the moment

  • 16:06

    and boy did i sound like the biggest

  • 16:08

    nuthead hater

  • 16:09

    in the world in the moment it was a

  • 16:11

    weird strategy but i was like yo

  • 16:14

    oh when they empty the clip yeah

  • 16:17

    but if you just get back to that time in

  • 16:19

    music i sounded like the biggest hater

  • 16:22

    in the world joe

  • 16:25

    well i mean streaming had started to

  • 16:28

    completely take over

  • 16:29

    if at that time if so you had eight

  • 16:31

    records

  • 16:32

    right that you thought was that [ __ ]

  • 16:36

    and and they were and you were right

  • 16:38

    yeah

  • 16:39

    no way on god's green earth are you

  • 16:41

    putting all of those records out in a

  • 16:42

    year i don't know

  • 16:43

    let me not say i don't know how somebody

  • 16:45

    at 300 convinced him to do that or did

  • 16:47

    it without him really knowing what was

  • 16:48

    going on but boy did they rob him of an

  • 16:51

    opportunity well i think it

  • 16:52

    uh a lot of those cases there were

  • 16:53

    records that he was releasing just on

  • 16:55

    soundcloud before he was even affiliated

  • 16:56

    i'm not gonna totally put this on 300

  • 16:58

    because i feel like fetty put a lot of

  • 16:59

    those out by himself

  • 17:02

    yeah not a lot of them

  • 17:05

    a good majority of how many were on yo i

  • 17:08

    hate doing this but go to this ig

  • 17:10

    let me see the uh the streams you know

  • 17:11

    how they put their little numbers up for

  • 17:13

    the year

  • 17:14

    oh he probably has a little numbers up

  • 17:17

    look at you hate no but that [ __ ] look

  • 17:19

    at those that's crazy pretty good

  • 17:20

    numbers

  • 17:21

    yeah yeah 393 million streams it's

  • 17:24

    insane

  • 17:24

    yo when actually now that y'all bring

  • 17:26

    this up when i think about the decade in

  • 17:28

    review because i always go to that

  • 17:31

    uh that uh longevity house of balloons

  • 17:35

    take care era what was that 20 years

  • 17:39

    ago 2012. 2011. the fatty error is

  • 17:42

    pretty high for me

  • 17:43

    yeah he had a [ __ ] run yeah but i

  • 17:46

    never

  • 17:46

    we never mentioned it let's definitely

  • 17:48

    know the run but

  • 17:50

    that moment in time encapsulated in

  • 17:52

    hip-hop

  • 17:53

    it was a year meant a lot it meant a lot

  • 17:56

    for me well not girls from patterson she

  • 17:57

    like saw his ascension and [ __ ] and like

  • 17:59

    his friends with his friends and all

  • 18:01

    that kind of thing so

  • 18:02

    like maybe it's a bad judge but she

  • 18:04

    still plays that music

  • 18:06

    and i still like this [ __ ] was banging

  • 18:07

    like this was a hit record you know what

  • 18:09

    it's similar to to me

  • 18:11

    it's kind of similar to a boogie okay

  • 18:15

    i could see that yeah like a boogie from

  • 18:17

    the bronx like people people

  • 18:18

    people knew saw him like they saw the

  • 18:20

    soundcloud stop it

  • 18:22

    go out of here no disrespect to a boogie

  • 18:24

    but stop it no it's i'm just saying i'm

  • 18:25

    just saying this

  • 18:26

    would die for one of those i think that

  • 18:28

    no what i'm saying is it is

  • 18:30

    he says he's had some big records yeah

  • 18:31

    and he's had a longer career

  • 18:34

    i think i think fetty would die for the

  • 18:35

    a boogie career no no i'm just talking

  • 18:37

    about

  • 18:38

    i don't know that as far as just just

  • 18:40

    seeing coming from soundcloud

  • 18:42

    sound wise to me the baby would also be

  • 18:44

    a a

  • 18:46

    correlation i could make because of the

  • 18:47

    fact that fetty's stuff was kind of

  • 18:50

    more major key happy bop

  • 18:53

    sounding i see and i see what you're

  • 18:54

    saying yeah no i i get that correlation

  • 18:56

    for sure

  • 18:57

    all right so you think because because i

  • 18:59

    feel like fetty now a lot of times

  • 19:01

    artists will have this crazy year and

  • 19:03

    then the sound of music will change and

  • 19:04

    they'll no longer be relevant because

  • 19:06

    they don't make that sound of music

  • 19:08

    fetty now all of the trap queen

  • 19:11

    679 my way all in 2020 could live and it

  • 19:14

    would

  • 19:14

    sound perfectly fine yeah do you think

  • 19:17

    because

  • 19:19

    he had to sustain the amount of hits

  • 19:22

    that he did at one time is why he

  • 19:24

    started to fizzle i found because this

  • 19:26

    sound of music works

  • 19:28

    now i'm gonna reply to you i'm sorry

  • 19:30

    camera people that's my stomach

  • 19:32

    i'm gonna reply to that and i think i

  • 19:34

    found

  • 19:35

    the perfect way to explain some of my

  • 19:37

    issue

  • 19:38

    with both fetty and cuddy

  • 19:42

    and that is that in this microwave

  • 19:45

    era and before i say this point let me

  • 19:48

    just say that being a [ __ ]

  • 19:50

    music critiquer or whatever you call

  • 19:52

    this [ __ ] boy is it a

  • 19:53

    tough tough job in 2020 like it is

  • 19:56

    it is and i don't think that

  • 19:57

    conversation has had enough either way

  • 20:00

    so much music yeah it's a lot of music

  • 20:02

    comes out you can't hear it all

  • 20:04

    the artists are sensitive well that's

  • 20:06

    all there's only but so many

  • 20:08

    platforms that can and will discuss your

  • 20:11

    [ __ ] like it's a tough time

  • 20:12

    and this year particularly has been

  • 20:14

    difficult because there hasn't been a

  • 20:16

    lot of like

  • 20:16

    blockbuster kind of releases a lot of

  • 20:18

    good music but not like

  • 20:20

    no drake cole kendrick beyonce

  • 20:23

    jay none of like the super duper duper

  • 20:26

    duper stars put out music this year so

  • 20:28

    it's been a weird year

  • 20:29

    musically in a year's been dead i'll be

  • 20:31

    wanting to tell his [ __ ] dad to tell

  • 20:32

    me that

  • 20:33

    we fell off i'm like fan no y'all fell

  • 20:35

    off the year has been trashed it's dead

  • 20:36

    podcasting is like a reactive type of

  • 20:38

    thing

  • 20:39

    yeah sometimes but listen back to my

  • 20:41

    point i should in this in this microwave

  • 20:43

    and this microwave era the part that

  • 20:46

    never dawned on me was

  • 20:48

    now you only you get an even

  • 20:51

    even more of a limited amount of time

  • 20:53

    with your sound

  • 20:55

    as opposed to back in the day where

  • 20:58

    maybe you would have had a longer run

  • 21:01

    with your sound and style people catch

  • 21:04

    up a lot quicker

  • 21:04

    a lot they figure out they fast stay

  • 21:07

    fast

  • 21:08

    and and for me when that happens

  • 21:11

    you have to guard against it yeah like

  • 21:14

    it's great to inspire and it's great for

  • 21:16

    people to it's great to do that

  • 21:18

    but you have to be prepared to take your

  • 21:21

    sound

  • 21:22

    and elevate it for sure i think of that

  • 21:24

    a lot in terms of us with the podcast

  • 21:26

    like

  • 21:27

    in february we'll be going on seven

  • 21:29

    years after our six-year anniversary

  • 21:31

    and it's like okay we've been doing this

  • 21:33

    for x amount of time

  • 21:35

    and we've been the best for x amount of

  • 21:37

    time

  • 21:39

    that's not enough how do you improve on

  • 21:43

    being the best short grow change or your

  • 21:45

    style or your sound

  • 21:47

    and for me both of these gentlemen

  • 21:50

    for different reasons seem to have let

  • 21:53

    that get away from them in this

  • 21:55

    microwave era because rory's right the

  • 21:56

    sound is still there

  • 21:58

    yeah how they are producing their sound

  • 22:01

    may indeed still be the same

  • 22:04

    it just don't sound the same for me

  • 22:07

    today

  • 22:08

    i felt cuddy's album uh he kind of

  • 22:10

    tapped into more

  • 22:12

    current sonics at least on the first

  • 22:14

    half from what i heard

  • 22:16

    i agree i felt like cuddy not went i

  • 22:18

    can't say went in the travis scotland

  • 22:20

    because so much of what who travis scott

  • 22:21

    is

  • 22:22

    as an artist is because of cuddy i felt

  • 22:24

    like he went

  • 22:25

    more in what his sound has developed

  • 22:27

    into but that's you

  • 22:29

    in my opinion in your backpack bag how

  • 22:32

    so

  • 22:32

    because you're right about that if you

  • 22:34

    get to the core of it

  • 22:36

    but who's doing it better oh i mean i

  • 22:38

    think there's been plenty of

  • 22:39

    artists you can say have taken a style

  • 22:41

    and done it better than the person prior

  • 22:43

    to well well that's why i'm telling you

  • 22:45

    where

  • 22:45

    what my position is because i would feel

  • 22:47

    like a fool to come in here and say the

  • 22:49

    things that i've said

  • 22:50

    about uh let's about janae aiko

  • 22:54

    and her last project that whole argument

  • 22:56

    i made

  • 22:57

    about that family tree and some of your

  • 23:00

    some of your some of your sons and

  • 23:02

    daughters are doing it

  • 23:04

    like if i'm gonna say that about about

  • 23:06

    that beautiful woman uh

  • 23:08

    then i ain't gonna not say it when i

  • 23:10

    feel it about cuddy too and i do

  • 23:12

    you know what i do about that i do i do

  • 23:15

    i'm sorry i'm sorry

  • 23:16

    cud hive i think that's something and

  • 23:19

    maybe

  • 23:19

    oh god because the person going through

  • 23:23

    the door

  • 23:24

    first is trying to figure the sound out

  • 23:28

    it's a brand new thing they don't know

  • 23:29

    what's going to work about it they don't

  • 23:30

    know what

  • 23:31

    people are going to gravitate to more

  • 23:33

    what um they can change in it because

  • 23:35

    they have no point of reference so when

  • 23:36

    you have someone like cuddy that creates

  • 23:38

    this sound yeah you have people like yay

  • 23:40

    and travis um and [ __ ]

  • 23:43

    damn near the moody r b now to figure

  • 23:46

    out what is good about it what they like

  • 23:48

    about it what they can evolve

  • 23:49

    in that sound change that sound they

  • 23:51

    know what works with that sound yeah

  • 23:52

    it's not fair to the person that started

  • 23:53

    it

  • 23:54

    they don't have the same point of

  • 23:55

    reference as the person that comes after

  • 23:56

    right so what

  • 23:59

    so what it's unfair to say why didn't

  • 24:01

    you i don't develop the sound so much

  • 24:03

    more i invented the [ __ ] sound

  • 24:04

    these people took it and realized what

  • 24:06

    was good and bad about it and developed

  • 24:07

    it that's how music is that's how

  • 24:08

    anything works

  • 24:09

    that's true that's how sports works not

  • 24:10

    true not true i don't i don't believe

  • 24:13

    that because you created something

  • 24:15

    you're

  • 24:15

    exempt from improving upon it no that's

  • 24:17

    not what i said

  • 24:18

    that's exactly what you said that's what

  • 24:19

    i said i said you said he created it so

  • 24:22

    i said it's nice so what i'll say it's

  • 24:23

    not what i said

  • 24:26

    to break up you guys bickering about

  • 24:27

    what you said uh part of the issue with

  • 24:29

    that

  • 24:30

    uh the argument of developing a sound

  • 24:32

    and creating is everyone has the same

  • 24:33

    tools now like talking about how back in

  • 24:35

    the day you had a longer time with your

  • 24:36

    own sound

  • 24:37

    everyone has access to the same exact

  • 24:39

    [ __ ] same drum sounds

  • 24:41

    same output uh synth sounds same

  • 24:44

    auto-tune

  • 24:44

    plug-ins that's part of the reason how

  • 24:47

    you're going to use it is what makes you

  • 24:48

    a great artist

  • 24:49

    yeah of course i mean everyone has pro

  • 24:51

    tools but how you

  • 24:52

    agree with it and do what it's not

  • 24:54

    supposed to do but there's a lot of

  • 24:55

    jeans there's a lot of people that just

  • 24:57

    fall into the okay this is

  • 24:59

    this is what people are doing i'm gonna

  • 25:01

    do this i just think it's more of a

  • 25:02

    luxury to take from us a proven sound

  • 25:04

    and develop it and change it and grow it

  • 25:06

    and take it to the next level than the

  • 25:08

    person that is to come in

  • 25:09

    with just ground level i'm inventing

  • 25:12

    something completely new that has not

  • 25:13

    been proven

  • 25:14

    yes i think it's easier as the next

  • 25:16

    person to to develop that sound and

  • 25:18

    that's the point

  • 25:18

    of the next person is to take it to the

  • 25:20

    next level for sure you want everything

  • 25:22

    to keep growing and developing that's

  • 25:23

    your

  • 25:24

    job too is what i'm saying i get what

  • 25:26

    you're saying

  • 25:27

    you know you pass the baton and the next

  • 25:29

    man should

  • 25:30

    should be able to improve upon it yeah

  • 25:32

    but more importantly

  • 25:33

    i do believe it's your responsibility as

  • 25:36

    well keep elevating to

  • 25:37

    yeah absolutely but at the same time

  • 25:39

    that's what artistry is about yeah let

  • 25:41

    me just tell you [ __ ] out there and

  • 25:42

    i'ma let you i'm sorry monoculture let

  • 25:43

    me tell you

  • 25:44

    hey you rappers out there all of you if

  • 25:47

    you put the travis scott ad-lib in your

  • 25:49

    song

  • 25:51

    i am gonna think about travis scott yeah

  • 25:54

    what the [ __ ] is difficult about that i

  • 25:56

    don't think i'm the bad guy for that no

  • 25:58

    not at all

  • 25:59

    and if you make me think about travis

  • 26:01

    scott

  • 26:03

    the bar is hot yeah you better be better

  • 26:05

    so what do you want me to do

  • 26:06

    parks i'm gonna put the [ __ ] out

  • 26:08

    morning

  • 26:21

    i get it so i mean it's just tough

  • 26:25

    it's tough for it's tough for me i don't

  • 26:27

    and i don't want that to come out like

  • 26:28

    hate

  • 26:29

    so it forces me to come in here like and

  • 26:31

    try to suppress certain [ __ ] even though

  • 26:33

    people are coming here to hear me talk

  • 26:34

    about certain [ __ ] but [ __ ] y'all man

  • 26:37

    that's how i feel i would like to talk

  • 26:38

    to uh fed you up

  • 26:41

    we need to talk to we need to i would

  • 26:42

    like to i would like to see what

  • 26:44

    i need to know i know i don't need to

  • 26:46

    talk to him i know exactly what happened

  • 26:47

    well you're an artist so you can you

  • 26:49

    know i know exactly what happened but

  • 26:50

    was that was it which

  • 26:51

    artistry thing or yes it was somebody

  • 26:54

    came in and told y'all

  • 26:55

    listen bump it up flu and then they

  • 26:57

    wanted me to make another album but no

  • 27:00

    no and that was me at a much lower level

  • 27:03

    sure what was happening with fetty

  • 27:06

    freddy started

  • 27:08

    dating a lot he was out a lot he was

  • 27:10

    traveling a lot

  • 27:11

    he's partying a lot he was spending a

  • 27:13

    lot i'm not counting nobody's money

  • 27:16

    but i'm looking at what someone is doing

  • 27:18

    with their time and

  • 27:20

    no he did what all of us do at that age

  • 27:24

    after some success we tricking off we

  • 27:26

    out of here we're not

  • 27:27

    the same amount of energy is not

  • 27:29

    exhausted or invested into our craft

  • 27:32

    without speaking to confetti or knowing

  • 27:34

    anybody involved with fetty that is

  • 27:35

    where i stand on fetty but i'm loyal to

  • 27:37

    fetty because of what he did and where

  • 27:39

    he did it from new jersey

  • 27:40

    absolutely patterson he killed man yeah

  • 27:43

    yeah it's just always interesting when

  • 27:45

    you think about it and like i said i

  • 27:47

    didn't even know he was putting out a

  • 27:48

    project

  • 27:49

    and was just talking about him not even

  • 27:51

    two days ago and i was like

  • 27:52

    he put out another album this year that

  • 27:54

    was pretty good no i know but i'm i'm

  • 27:56

    more so like he

  • 27:57

    because when he dropped his sound shook

  • 28:00

    the building

  • 28:01

    yeah and it's like you don't really and

  • 28:03

    it was

  • 28:04

    only two years man yeah not even

  • 28:08

    so it's just kind of like it just you

  • 28:09

    know as a music level you just start to

  • 28:11

    ask about yo what happened

  • 28:12

    i could be wrong but i think that at one

  • 28:14

    point he was maybe getting away from

  • 28:16

    some of the crew and producers that he

  • 28:17

    was working with at first

  • 28:19

    but i think that he's gone back i saw

  • 28:20

    people's name shout out to people's on

  • 28:22

    the new album and i'm not sure if

  • 28:24

    they've been working back together for a

  • 28:25

    long time or what

  • 28:26

    was there some internal [ __ ] between him

  • 28:28

    and there may have been yeah

  • 28:30

    i don't know the new album though okay

  • 28:32

    good yeah i heard they back like the

  • 28:34

    crew is kind of

  • 28:35

    i don't know to what extent but i heard

  • 28:36

    you you know back [ __ ] with big ones

  • 28:38

    and all of that so i would just be

  • 28:39

    curious if there was like some business

  • 28:40

    [ __ ] that happened maybe with the crew

  • 28:43

    or maybe with the label or the industry

  • 28:45

    or something because

  • 28:46

    he does still make good music where's

  • 28:49

    the disconnect

  • 28:50

    right you know what i'm saying i'm not

  • 28:51

    saying that he's going to have another

  • 28:52

    run like a trap queen

  • 28:54

    man a three to five million dollar

  • 28:56

    publishing check

  • 28:57

    after record three no

  • 29:01

    i'm not going to the studio no

  • 29:04

    don't send me a beat yeah i'm out of

  • 29:07

    here

  • 29:08

    i'm gone he didn't even do a lot of

  • 29:10

    features if i recall either

  • 29:11

    three million my year one the year and a

  • 29:14

    half ago i was on soundcloud

  • 29:18

    whatever yeah i mean i understood when

  • 29:21

    all the babies started popping i

  • 29:23

    understood

  • 29:23

    no doubt yeah but that's unfortunate

  • 29:25

    because it's you know

  • 29:27

    it was something really really good

  • 29:29

    there jersey we need another one they

  • 29:31

    took betty from us they took albie from

  • 29:33

    us god damn it jersey

  • 29:36

    not freddy fetty's still around so i

  • 29:38

    hope that he can find some footing in

  • 29:40

    i'm gonna definitely get into this album

  • 29:41

    this weekend though yeah sure yeah don't

  • 29:43

    matter

  • 29:43

    betty's not still on 300 is he i think

  • 29:46

    so

  • 29:47

    i could be highly doubted

  • 29:51

    damn bring back the days when we were

  • 29:52

    locked into the same label for five

  • 29:54

    projects

  • 29:55

    no no labels will drop you quick now

  • 29:59

    he is on 300 still yep and

  • 30:04

    300 rgf and this is why artists

  • 30:07

    want to shoot up labels allegedly

  • 30:10

    allegedly allegedly of course no fetty

  • 30:13

    can't get that again from 300 because

  • 30:15

    300 got too much going on and meg

  • 30:18

    there's a lot of other people getting

  • 30:19

    that attention now see so it don't

  • 30:21

    matter if fetty can make those same

  • 30:23

    exact records because they wouldn't get

  • 30:24

    the same exact attention

  • 30:26

    yeah that's what that's kind of what i

  • 30:27

    was getting at with i wonder if it's a

  • 30:29

    business thing

  • 30:30

    right on the label side it's slash

  • 30:32

    industry side

  • 30:33

    because he could i think that he's still

  • 30:34

    capable of making good music uh from

  • 30:36

    what i've heard from the two of them so

  • 30:37

    we put out this year

  • 30:38

    they might not be super smash hit

  • 30:39

    records but

  • 30:41

    there's it's good quality music we are

  • 30:42

    so east coast we spent 20 minutes on the

  • 30:44

    new fetty wap album

  • 30:48

    that era and how things have changed and

  • 30:50

    yeah much deeper conversation i know

  • 30:51

    slid right over travis scott

  • 30:54

    did travis scott drop something no no

  • 30:59

    joe's dick diddy don't want to say no

  • 31:03

    no no he didn't him and him and post

  • 31:07

    were quiet

  • 31:07

    oh okay you just wanted to tyler the

  • 31:10

    creator it's a few [ __ ] that was just

  • 31:12

    quiet

  • 31:12

    i mean you were such an [ __ ] 38

  • 31:16

    special frank ocean was quiet

  • 31:31

    a core fan base that is over a hundred

  • 31:33

    thousand every single time i go out

  • 31:35

    why am i going to change my sound well

  • 31:38

    that's because it's just hypothetical

  • 31:39

    that's where cody is that's wrong just a

  • 31:41

    hypothetical thing

  • 31:42

    taking it back to something i replied to

  • 31:44

    10 minutes ago so i'll repeat myself

  • 31:46

    just because you are the creator of a

  • 31:49

    sound it's not the point does not mean

  • 31:50

    that you are not responsible for

  • 31:52

    changing it also

  • 31:54

    you're missing my point i'm saying if

  • 31:55

    your core fan base just wants to hear

  • 31:57

    this

  • 31:57

    from you and i know i'm guaranteed this

  • 32:00

    amount of people every single time i go

  • 32:01

    out this amount of money every single

  • 32:03

    time i go out

  • 32:04

    the [ __ ] i'm changing [ __ ] for but

  • 32:05

    there's a hypothetical question i'm

  • 32:06

    asking all right great all right i like

  • 32:08

    it i like it

  • 32:08

    i like it there's plenty of artists that

  • 32:10

    have done uh

  • 32:12

    incremental adjustments where they're

  • 32:15

    not doing a whole set like how drake

  • 32:17

    changes or kanye changes like now and i

  • 32:19

    think has changed

  • 32:20

    edm album now i'm doing uh whatever uh

  • 32:22

    uh

  • 32:23

    the world music album like does there's

  • 32:25

    artists that have gradually just they've

  • 32:28

    stayed consistent and they've stayed

  • 32:29

    with their sound but you know

  • 32:30

    tweaked the way they chop the sample or

  • 32:32

    you know perform the vocal

  • 32:34

    where it's an evolution it doesn't feel

  • 32:36

    like you're stagnant doing the same

  • 32:37

    exact shot that's what makes kanye and

  • 32:38

    then one of the greatest because every

  • 32:40

    album

  • 32:42

    huge whole scale like this one's all

  • 32:44

    synthesizers this one is jesus

  • 32:47

    and then on top of that and then on top

  • 32:50

    of that what does success look like for

  • 32:52

    the other 95

  • 32:53

    of artists because i don't want us to do

  • 32:56

    this with

  • 32:57

    with kanye and sure drake well no i'm

  • 32:59

    saying

  • 33:00

    the rest of us yeah that are not on that

  • 33:03

    that in that rarefied air to another

  • 33:06

    planet up there

  • 33:06

    what does success look like today in a

  • 33:10

    pandemic

  • 33:11

    with touring dead like i don't i don't

  • 33:13

    know probably i don't know what i just

  • 33:14

    said you come out you do your consistent

  • 33:16

    100

  • 33:16

    000. that's that's very successful yeah

  • 33:19

    cudi has a core that is it's a large

  • 33:21

    core that sounds great if i'm

  • 33:23

    independent

  • 33:24

    if i'm on a label and the splits are a

  • 33:25

    little different what does that

  • 33:27

    really do for me yeah i'm asking and

  • 33:29

    even if you're independent like

  • 33:33

    supplemental [ __ ] independently

  • 33:36

    recording right this second and relied

  • 33:38

    on music to pay my bills there would be

  • 33:40

    four projects in a year

  • 33:41

    yeah even if they did a hundred thousand

  • 33:43

    each and you would have to have a fire

  • 33:44

    merge game or

  • 33:45

    if they did 40 000 a piece i still make

  • 33:48

    1500 a month from rage

  • 33:50

    if they did 40 000 a piece all of them

  • 33:52

    i'm just saying just to get by

  • 33:53

    through the year everybody don't have

  • 33:55

    the fire merch

  • 33:56

    everybody didn't have the fire tour game

  • 33:58

    some of you [ __ ] lying oh we can't

  • 34:00

    perform [ __ ] you wasn't performing

  • 34:01

    before

  • 34:03

    yeah it was quiet he wasn't i'm sick of

  • 34:05

    some of these [ __ ] man i'm just saying

  • 34:07

    it's a lot yeah it's a lot to account

  • 34:09

    for

  • 34:10

    out there 30 people in sobs that was

  • 34:12

    your new york show yeah

  • 34:13

    but that's my there's a separate

  • 34:14

    conversation about how the uh the mega

  • 34:16

    festivals were inflating a lot of

  • 34:18

    people's stewardship but that's a whole

  • 34:19

    deeper darker yes that's a deeper but

  • 34:21

    that's my other thing about

  • 34:23

    critiquing music during a pandemic

  • 34:26

    pandemic pandemic whatever you want to

  • 34:27

    call it it's like

  • 34:28

    i there's not one musician out there

  • 34:31

    that i want to lend my voice

  • 34:34

    to interrupting their flow right now

  • 34:38

    i just don't think it's the time for

  • 34:40

    that right yeah like even if

  • 34:42

    the [ __ ] so what you put out a bad

  • 34:44

    album hey

  • 34:45

    we was killing paul george for his play

  • 34:46

    in the bubble but i get it if you

  • 34:48

    depressed and you away from [ __ ]

  • 34:51

    everything we're going to talk about

  • 34:54

    that

  • 34:55

    you've got to talk about them now they

  • 34:57

    paid that man we're going to talk about

  • 34:58

    but what i'm saying is what is lisa why

  • 35:00

    doesn't cutty get a pass for being

  • 35:01

    depressed and not changing his sound

  • 35:04

    the [ __ ] all joins herself but not cuddy

  • 35:06

    and i don't even like that point of him

  • 35:08

    saying uh

  • 35:08

    the creator doesn't get any type of pass

  • 35:10

    for that there's so

  • 35:12

    do you feel that way about all early

  • 35:14

    hip-hop artists for not changing their

  • 35:15

    sound even though they created the

  • 35:17

    blueprint for what we use now

  • 35:18

    well no you interrupted me but i was

  • 35:20

    about to to say

  • 35:22

    no i'm not judging these [ __ ] for

  • 35:24

    putting out the mediocre albums during

  • 35:26

    the pandemic when who knows where your

  • 35:28

    engineer is how you getting beats who

  • 35:30

    knows how involved your label is how

  • 35:32

    much money they giving you

  • 35:33

    they putting all the onus and

  • 35:35

    responsibility on the artist we got to

  • 35:37

    pay for everything now off the top you

  • 35:39

    get

  • 35:39

    10 grand let's listen it's [ __ ] up out

  • 35:41

    there it's real [ __ ]

  • 35:42

    [ __ ] up idea so it puts me in a an odd

  • 35:46

    spot to come on here and tell you what i

  • 35:47

    think of music when truth be told

  • 35:49

    i'm not listening to music that's how i

  • 35:53

    am handling you listen to old music no

  • 35:56

    joe listen you listen to the music from

  • 35:57

    the people

  • 35:58

    that make good music no listen it's my

  • 36:00

    job to hear

  • 36:01

    to hear things it's my job to hear

  • 36:03

    things but in terms of

  • 36:04

    me listening to an album

  • 36:09

    i gotta find the time in the house i to

  • 36:11

    find the time to get to the show i like

  • 36:12

    yeah i got to find the time to put the

  • 36:14

    phone down like i just got to find the

  • 36:16

    time now i don't know how the world got

  • 36:18

    to that but that's where i am me who

  • 36:20

    loves music like nothing else in this

  • 36:22

    world

  • 36:22

    right i don't seem to have time to

  • 36:23

    listen to it we made this point not too

  • 36:25

    long ago that

  • 36:26

    now with [ __ ] being like it is we run

  • 36:28

    into what's familiar

  • 36:29

    like i don't have time to sort out and

  • 36:31

    figure out if you good or not in music

  • 36:32

    yeah as a new art i don't i'm with you

  • 36:34

    on that i'm going to my people rory

  • 36:35

    coming in and playing jasmine sullivan

  • 36:37

    sleeper guess what i'm buying it hey i

  • 36:38

    like her

  • 36:39

    i like her i know her i enjoy her that's

  • 36:41

    it these new [ __ ] i don't know

  • 36:43

    quando rondo canceling shows i ain't

  • 36:45

    heard a song i don't know

  • 36:47

    nothing that's what rory is for in my

  • 36:49

    life but he grew up so now he don't tell

  • 36:50

    me nothing either

  • 36:52

    i have no idea what that's my best see

  • 36:55

    see no i understand what you mean but

  • 36:57

    it's awesome it's rough man

  • 36:58

    it comes it's rough you just don't trust

  • 37:00

    a lot of these new acts i think that's

  • 37:01

    what it is i don't trust the music

  • 37:03

    business cause i see all y'all

  • 37:05

    shifting away from music mm-hmm yeah the

  • 37:08

    business

  • 37:08

    yeah not the artist unfortunately we'd

  • 37:11

    be the last ones to know some [ __ ] but

  • 37:12

    they moving and shaking behind the

  • 37:14

    scenes december right before christmas

  • 37:16

    don't let them tell you the industry

  • 37:17

    locked down [ __ ] [ __ ] moving and i

  • 37:18

    know it

  • 37:19

    can't tell you guys can't tell you guys

  • 37:22

    but [ __ ] is i've been saying it for

  • 37:24

    you they're lining up

  • 37:26

    they lining up chests they moving around

  • 37:28

    they're setting up for the next five

  • 37:30

    years i don't know how that looks but

  • 37:31

    it don't look the greatest for artists

  • 37:34

    yeah

  • 37:36

    that's sad but it's the truth it's the

  • 37:39

    truth

  • 37:39

    no not with the label system yeah and

  • 37:42

    they want me to sit on the [ __ ]

  • 37:43

    shitty chatty house these aspiring

  • 37:45

    musicians that

  • 37:46

    that want to get somewhere and love the

  • 37:47

    craft i empathize because i remember

  • 37:49

    being hey joe what should i do what's it

  • 37:50

    take a [ __ ] i don't know i hate this

  • 37:52

    [ __ ]

  • 37:54

    i can't tell you what i'm gonna look

  • 37:55

    like handing off some jaded information

  • 37:57

    i wouldn't know how to function in this

  • 37:59

    [ __ ] today this [ __ ] is a

  • 38:00

    mess it is it is but the answer is

  • 38:04

    work and keep working and figure do

  • 38:06

    everything try everything

  • 38:08

    own your masters if you can't all of

  • 38:11

    this [ __ ] is a [ __ ]

  • 38:12

    someone gives you a good a good

  • 38:13

    situation all this [ __ ] is a one and a

  • 38:16

    500 chance of hitting a home run 500

  • 38:18

    feet out of the park

  • 38:19

    own your master's you could be the guy

  • 38:21

    that gets a base head every single time

  • 38:22

    and

  • 38:22

    and that's okay too own your masters

  • 38:26

    pray that they become valuable one day

  • 38:30

    because that's the part the industry

  • 38:31

    don't tell you all these things oh own

  • 38:32

    your master's on your man some of you

  • 38:33

    [ __ ] masters ain't worth nothing

  • 38:35

    have a blast don't make it have a blast

  • 38:37

    with your ownership and i would say

  • 38:38

    don't pray they

  • 38:39

    uh become worth something make them

  • 38:41

    worth something

  • 38:42

    yeah make them worth something and then

  • 38:46

    sell it and hopefully it affects the

  • 38:47

    market share somehow

  • 38:51

    there you go well that's the other thing

  • 38:55

    with these

  • 38:56

    [ __ ] lying misleading words i got a

  • 38:58

    long list of [ __ ] in 2021

  • 39:00

    that need to stop if i hear another one

  • 39:03

    of you [ __ ] tell me you got a

  • 39:05

    partnership

  • 39:08

    nobody wants to say it i've waited a

  • 39:10

    year and a half for somebody to question

  • 39:12

    it [ __ ] don't be having parties

  • 39:14

    no they ain't got no [ __ ] partnership

  • 39:17

    they're signed

  • 39:18

    now they've been having partnerships i

  • 39:20

    know you

  • 39:22

    partnered on the deal partner in the

  • 39:25

    payment

  • 39:25

    yeah yeah yeah since you're a partner

  • 39:28

    you want a partner in something i'm the

  • 39:29

    prophet

  • 39:30

    uh all right what else came out 38

  • 39:32

    special 38 specs

  • 39:34

    38 specs changed the game again again

  • 39:37

    especially in green lantern uh hosted

  • 39:39

    and you know blended the freestyles

  • 39:41

    together

  • 39:42

    with the name of the uh are you calling

  • 39:44

    this epo album uh

  • 39:46

    it's like a mixture of he has a album

  • 39:48

    album coming out i think

  • 39:49

    next week interstate 38 which is

  • 39:52

    phenomenal yeah 38 special

  • 39:54

    i [ __ ] with i feel connected to you

  • 39:56

    because of the instrumentals that you

  • 39:58

    picked on this album i'll be honest with

  • 40:00

    you

  • 40:00

    you picked 10 of my favorite i haven't

  • 40:03

    many of my favorite

  • 40:04

    beats of all time and then rhymed like

  • 40:07

    murderous drug dealer talk on it like

  • 40:09

    there's no way for me to not

  • 40:10

    like this set up to like this is this is

  • 40:13

    great all i'm saying is

  • 40:15

    wow now we can sell 16s and 24s over our

  • 40:19

    favorite beats

  • 40:20

    is that what this is that was it you're

  • 40:23

    doing the roaring thing now

  • 40:25

    this is not though that's a joke yeah

  • 40:29

    but shout out to 38 absolutely

  • 40:32

    absolutely

  • 40:32

    [ __ ] with him he's had a great year uh

  • 40:34

    for a production god damn it 38

  • 40:36

    special yeah his album that's coming out

  • 40:38

    i think it's like i said next week or

  • 40:39

    the week after

  • 40:40

    is phenomenal this is kind of just like

  • 40:42

    the the warm up for it yeah he's one of

  • 40:44

    the uh he's one of the rappers that i

  • 40:46

    i listen to a lot and i'm like he's

  • 40:48

    people are gonna start paying

  • 40:49

    him some attention real real soon yeah

  • 40:51

    no they already are he's building

  • 40:53

    but i mean like on a different level

  • 40:54

    yeah you know what i mean like he's

  • 40:55

    gonna start becoming a

  • 40:56

    yo how do you build now

  • 41:00

    teach me tell me about all this [ __ ]

  • 41:02

    that has just gotten lost in the current

  • 41:06

    how do you build now consistency man

  • 41:08

    consistency is always

  • 41:09

    is always key stand consistent all right

  • 41:11

    well give me what else is key

  • 41:12

    um being being good for starters

  • 41:15

    especially

  • 41:16

    comes from our error so he's got like a

  • 41:18

    little bit of a cheat code like he comes

  • 41:20

    from doing good business that's a huge

  • 41:23

    your name and all the [ __ ] [ __ ] can't

  • 41:24

    do

  • 41:27

    business [ __ ]

  • 41:30

    are successful are doing it i'll give

  • 41:33

    you one get [ __ ] lucky

  • 41:35

    that's a little bit of luck well part of

  • 41:37

    being good is being lucky

  • 41:38

    yeah it's a little part of being good

  • 41:40

    part of being good is being

  • 41:41

    able to uh execute on the luck

  • 41:44

    unfortunately it comes your way

  • 41:45

    take take the opportunity to know what

  • 41:47

    to do with this i'm just saying pure

  • 41:48

    luck is involved in people oh no no but

  • 41:50

    if you're if the luck happens and you're

  • 41:52

    not hey i just told ian that

  • 41:55

    but right before i got here i said hey

  • 41:58

    for one person to make 20 million

  • 42:02

    dollars

  • 42:03

    a lot has to go right absolutely i

  • 42:05

    thought that broke good business and i'm

  • 42:06

    gonna think that when i get 20 million

  • 42:08

    dollars good business

  • 42:09

    hey a lot is going right for that for

  • 42:11

    that to occur

  • 42:12

    good business [ __ ] ton good business

  • 42:14

    good business consistency

  • 42:15

    talent consistency hard work and luck

  • 42:18

    and a little bit of luck

  • 42:19

    but being able to execute when that luck

  • 42:20

    comes through and also and also working

  • 42:22

    just working on whatever it is that

  • 42:24

    you're trying to do like always try to

  • 42:25

    get better at what you're doing you know

  • 42:26

    what i mean like

  • 42:27

    you can be a dope rapper but you know

  • 42:29

    start to work on your hooks more

  • 42:31

    all right so give it to me right now i'm

  • 42:32

    a new artist

  • 42:34

    let's walk through it god damn it [ __ ]

  • 42:35

    it let's do it i'm a brand new artist i

  • 42:37

    want the room

  • 42:38

    know the climate i was going on in the

  • 42:39

    world i went to the studio i made

  • 42:41

    something that

  • 42:42

    me and every [ __ ] in my hood feels like

  • 42:44

    it's a go uh-huh

  • 42:45

    i haven't played this for i haven't

  • 42:46

    played this for somebody and they didn't

  • 42:48

    tell me

  • 42:49

    it's a go well i'm breathing i'm reading

  • 42:51

    though i'm dreaming i'm reading the

  • 42:52

    faces

  • 42:53

    i'm reading i'm just saying everybody

  • 42:55

    heard this and they got the nod in the

  • 42:57

    head i was looking on the low i invited

  • 42:58

    some girls over

  • 42:59

    caught with the bible you know what [ __ ]

  • 43:01

    [ __ ] do when you're testing the record

  • 43:02

    i'll do that right

  • 43:03

    you got to be careful though because a

  • 43:04

    lot of people do get inflated uh

  • 43:07

    sense of fire by playing it for people

  • 43:10

    that know them personally that know them

  • 43:12

    personally but in a way that is there

  • 43:14

    there's an art to playing [ __ ] for

  • 43:15

    people and getting an honest response

  • 43:16

    out of them

  • 43:17

    yeah sneaking it in like you said you

  • 43:20

    have a playlist

  • 43:22

    on the app about playing your music for

  • 43:25

    people

  • 43:26

    yeah and how yeah you may want a certain

  • 43:28

    response from a certain person but

  • 43:30

    they're not even

  • 43:31

    into that type of genre right so you're

  • 43:32

    just going to get the oh no it's cool it

  • 43:34

    just ain't for me type thing

  • 43:35

    you have to know exactly who you're what

  • 43:38

    type of audience you want this

  • 43:39

    music to be for and that's the type of

  • 43:41

    people that you need an opinion from now

  • 43:43

    you want people to identify their

  • 43:44

    audience yes

  • 43:47

    it is tough but listen okay i got this

  • 43:49

    record i did what i had to do let people

  • 43:50

    hear it i think it's fire

  • 43:52

    today what do i do what do i do

  • 43:55

    with this record it's mixed it's

  • 43:56

    mastered i don't know nobody

  • 43:58

    at radio i don't have a relationship at

  • 44:00

    the streamers soundcloud

  • 44:02

    uh no everything's in my whole career

  • 44:05

    making this record you want me to just

  • 44:06

    put it down clowns

  • 44:07

    get back in the studio and do another

  • 44:09

    one make another one and don't put it on

  • 44:10

    just something

  • 44:11

    on every single thing that exists i can

  • 44:13

    see why [ __ ] don't listen to [ __ ]

  • 44:14

    with experience

  • 44:15

    no i would never do that well you know

  • 44:17

    you have to keep holding that record

  • 44:18

    that's fire in the world ain't gonna

  • 44:20

    happen until i get another one no that's

  • 44:21

    oh and that's that's that and that's

  • 44:22

    talking to the person's talent now well

  • 44:25

    i'm talented so i mean that's i'm okay

  • 44:26

    so if you got another one

  • 44:28

    if you're talented oh no no no no all

  • 44:30

    right no no i'm talking about joe budden

  • 44:31

    but no i'm the new artist guy now

  • 44:33

    i ain't so fast to relinquish my record

  • 44:36

    people gotta hear you people got it for

  • 44:38

    free absolutely no

  • 44:39

    oh you [ __ ] would fail put a few

  • 44:41

    [ __ ] with your families

  • 44:43

    write a song you have to put it on free

  • 44:45

    and sale and everything

  • 44:47

    you've got to put it you have to do

  • 44:48

    everything

  • 44:56

    oh [ __ ] you guys first of all it doesn't

  • 44:58

    cost you money to put it on

  • 45:00

    somewhere where you will gain money like

  • 45:02

    it's a different it's not like when you

  • 45:04

    were selling mixtapes

  • 45:05

    no just give it to them for free in time

  • 45:06

    put it out you can put it on

  • 45:08

    any streaming services stop holding this

  • 45:12

    music like

  • 45:12

    y'all talking about it put it out listen

  • 45:14

    to us

  • 45:15

    no listen if you nice put the music out

  • 45:18

    to the world listen

  • 45:18

    to us put the music out the world to let

  • 45:20

    you know if you're good joey what you

  • 45:22

    kind of just went over when i said

  • 45:23

    identifying your audience yeah i think

  • 45:24

    that's a first step because how you

  • 45:26

    market

  • 45:27

    things especially as a new artist you

  • 45:29

    should start with a smaller

  • 45:30

    group to go after that's how you build

  • 45:33

    we use the word build

  • 45:34

    you start with the small group i think

  • 45:35

    this is for this specific type of person

  • 45:38

    so let me identify that type of person

  • 45:40

    and i can market this a little bit

  • 45:42

    better because i know what they like and

  • 45:43

    how they

  • 45:44

    take music in is it is visuals is this a

  • 45:46

    record that needs a visual to put out

  • 45:48

    spoken something marketing that's very

  • 45:50

    difficult to do for the average human

  • 45:51

    being by the way

  • 45:52

    especially especially there's so many

  • 45:55

    records that i get

  • 45:56

    to mix from people and they're like yo i

  • 45:57

    want to sound like

  • 45:59

    drake it's like you know that you sound

  • 46:01

    like

  • 46:02

    you've like but but that but it doesn't

  • 46:06

    take a moment

  • 46:06

    you sound like travis scott and that's

  • 46:08

    not the same you know whatever when joe

  • 46:10

    was saying that

  • 46:10

    in in this hypothetical scenario that

  • 46:12

    everybody in his hood liked it you have

  • 46:14

    to

  • 46:15

    for the people you're playing it for you

  • 46:16

    have to figure out that type of person

  • 46:21

    i don't know if this is a machine or a

  • 46:22

    person this is the one and only man

  • 46:26

    i didn't i didn't get to any answering

  • 46:28

    service yet man this is brook steezy man

  • 46:31

    buck stallion this is joe budden and

  • 46:32

    friends from the joe budden podcast in

  • 46:34

    the middle of a very important

  • 46:35

    conversation how are you doing

  • 46:37

    i'm doing great man you're doing great

  • 46:40

    hey

  • 46:43

    in 2007 i came

  • 46:46

    to you because you wrote a song

  • 46:49

    that a lot of people thought was a

  • 46:52

    really great song right

  • 46:54

    that is correct that is true i attempted

  • 46:57

    to purchase that song from you right

  • 47:03

    yes if you or at least try to open the

  • 47:05

    conversation to do so right

  • 47:08

    me that's correct me needing a single at

  • 47:10

    the moment thinking i had the right

  • 47:11

    amount of momentum to amplify

  • 47:13

    what was a really really really good

  • 47:15

    record you

  • 47:16

    as an aspiring act with this record that

  • 47:21

    you thought

  • 47:21

    was a smack a lot of people thought was

  • 47:24

    a smash

  • 47:25

    smash smash opted to

  • 47:28

    hold on to the record right

  • 47:33

    yeah that's how it kind of ended

  • 47:36

    it was a few 10 intangibles there we

  • 47:39

    don't care about that i'm only speaking

  • 47:40

    to

  • 47:42

    why as a new artist with this record

  • 47:46

    that a lot of people thought was a smash

  • 47:48

    i'm trying to talk to i asked them all

  • 47:50

    and the fellas here hey if i'm a brand

  • 47:51

    new artist and i got a record that we

  • 47:53

    all think is a smash what's the first

  • 47:54

    thing i should do they said i should put

  • 47:55

    it on soundcloud or the streamers

  • 47:57

    i playing devil's advocate said well if

  • 47:59

    i'm a new act with with this one smash

  • 48:01

    i would never do that because i wouldn't

  • 48:03

    want to let my record go and that got me

  • 48:05

    to thinking about you

  • 48:06

    but in the long run you never put that

  • 48:09

    record out did you

  • 48:11

    i never put it out that's what happens

  • 48:13

    that's why you can't hold on to

  • 48:14

    especially

  • 48:15

    and that's and that is what happens yeah

  • 48:17

    there's a lot of [ __ ] music out i

  • 48:19

    hate when [ __ ] have a record

  • 48:20

    and everybody loves it no no i don't

  • 48:22

    really know what i want to do put the

  • 48:24

    [ __ ] music out man and you know

  • 48:26

    you know he's not putting it out too

  • 48:27

    early without well it's too

  • 48:29

    there's many ways of looking at that um

  • 48:32

    sometimes when you get a a golden egg is

  • 48:34

    a golden egg because it's

  • 48:36

    made of gold and sometimes you just

  • 48:38

    don't

  • 48:39

    get another golden egg so if you just

  • 48:41

    like if we want to reference joe right

  • 48:44

    and we look at a record such as pump it

  • 48:47

    up

  • 48:47

    like we're being creative and putting

  • 48:49

    our music sometimes the reality of it is

  • 48:52

    is that sometimes you just cannot

  • 48:55

    create another golden egg no matter how

  • 48:58

    creative you might

  • 48:59

    think you are sometimes it's just it

  • 49:02

    doesn't work

  • 49:02

    that way so like how pumped up

  • 49:06

    no mind state i know even if it's wrong

  • 49:09

    yeah he said you're right but that's

  • 49:11

    what anything if you're a [ __ ] little

  • 49:13

    league baseball player you can't get a

  • 49:14

    hit you're not on the [ __ ] team

  • 49:15

    anymore

  • 49:16

    yeah and you know what's funny i said

  • 49:17

    the buck back then you ain't got it you

  • 49:19

    ain't got it go try something else i

  • 49:20

    said to buck back then about this record

  • 49:22

    i said yo you're gonna hold on to this

  • 49:25

    record

  • 49:26

    and the sound of music is gonna change

  • 49:28

    and it's not going to be the same record

  • 49:30

    anymore yeah

  • 49:31

    and then that happened the sound changed

  • 49:32

    but i only bring it up buck to tell you

  • 49:34

    i think the sound is right back yeah

  • 49:37

    that sound from that record with tick

  • 49:40

    tock and all this other dance creation

  • 49:42

    [ __ ] that's how this [ __ ] works hey can

  • 49:43

    i play some of that record

  • 49:46

    you ain't doing that whatever the [ __ ]

  • 49:48

    are you going to do

  • 49:50

    what the [ __ ] are you going to do number

  • 49:53

    collecting dust in your house

  • 49:54

    all right listen i don't even know where

  • 49:55

    that right yeah

  • 50:06

    yeah i am going to play some of that

  • 50:08

    record you have it yeah

  • 50:12

    copyrighted in two minutes copyrighted

  • 50:14

    where

  • 50:15

    it's recorded it's kind of send it to

  • 50:17

    yourself in the mail it's copyrighted

  • 50:19

    remember when they said that i am going

  • 50:20

    to play a little bit of this record

  • 50:22

    before you play it buck is my man i love

  • 50:24

    him if it's trash can i say it's trash

  • 50:26

    it ain't trash i just know what it is

  • 50:28

    but wait wait timeout of course you

  • 50:29

    could say it's tragically

  • 50:30

    but listen remember this was in oh six

  • 50:33

    years old seven yeah i know do you have

  • 50:35

    nah no i know exactly what your sound

  • 50:37

    was no six and over

  • 50:41

    all right objectivity absolutely

  • 50:45

    i love it there's something about that

  • 50:49

    girl right there

  • 51:06

    this could work now hold up

  • 51:09

    but forget about buck for a minute just

  • 51:11

    listen i don't know how to listen to it

  • 51:13

    the fans probably don't though you

  • 51:15

    turned me

  • 51:16

    on the damn girl you turned me off

  • 51:19

    you're not trying to turn me

  • 51:55

    miller is hilarious no i get it it

  • 51:58

    sounds good

  • 51:59

    it's not good i don't know if that would

  • 52:00

    have worked for you though

  • 52:15

    a caricature of yourself

  • 52:23

    joe had a record with young chris i

  • 52:25

    believe frequency produced that was kind

  • 52:27

    of in that

  • 52:28

    lane that was a mid-2000s

  • 52:32

    trying to get a single if you hear what

  • 52:34

    buck said

  • 52:35

    that is the fear that most artists live

  • 52:38

    with just not that five percent

  • 52:40

    that no absolutely i'm talking about

  • 52:41

    that as a producer like i've held onto

  • 52:43

    beats forever like oh no this one

  • 52:44

    gotta have ghost face on it's gotta have

  • 52:46

    nods on it the [ __ ]

  • 52:48

    that's the dumbest [ __ ] in the [ __ ]

  • 52:50

    world you put that [ __ ] out you have to

  • 52:51

    put the [ __ ] music

  • 52:52

    like you said joe the sound changes the

  • 52:54

    time changes the moment changes

  • 52:55

    this artist now who who recorded in

  • 52:58

    january

  • 52:59

    and want to put out their album in

  • 53:00

    december and they have to go back and

  • 53:01

    change that whole

  • 53:03

    album that they have recorded in jen

  • 53:04

    cause it's already dated already it's

  • 53:06

    not the year is not even over yeah so

  • 53:07

    you have to put the music you cannot sit

  • 53:09

    on music and just think that

  • 53:10

    i'm gonna wait nah you gonna wait and

  • 53:12

    then that moment is gone and now nobody

  • 53:14

    wanna hear that sound now [ __ ] gonna

  • 53:15

    be looking at you like [ __ ] that just

  • 53:16

    came home

  • 53:17

    again the beautiful thing about art and

  • 53:18

    being a creator is you can keep doing it

  • 53:20

    i feel for artists right now i feel like

  • 53:23

    so many artists have sat on their music

  • 53:25

    in 2020 because they didn't want to put

  • 53:26

    it out with uh the fear of

  • 53:29

    the uncertainty of how it would be

  • 53:30

    upside down now this is what i'm talking

  • 53:31

    about now this i kind of disagree with

  • 53:33

    i might be with them on this you know

  • 53:36

    established artists or

  • 53:38

    either going to hold your album or over

  • 53:40

    release music i would roll with oh

  • 53:42

    releasing that

  • 53:43

    finish i was saying i feel for them

  • 53:44

    because they may have

  • 53:46

    just

  • 53:52

    it's frustrating i know i'm a kid i know

  • 53:55

    it's fun and i'm in a bad mood today

  • 53:57

    um i feel for them because if they

  • 53:59

    created something in january of 2020

  • 54:01

    thinking they were going to put it out

  • 54:02

    in june of 2020

  • 54:04

    they've been listening to the same

  • 54:05

    record over and over and it may be an

  • 54:06

    amazing record but to them

  • 54:08

    it feels dated and they won't put it out

  • 54:09

    in 2021 when it is time for them to

  • 54:11

    release music

  • 54:12

    that's right so a lot so a lot of

  • 54:13

    artists i think are going to be sitting

  • 54:14

    on really good music

  • 54:15

    and they'll be sick of it so they won't

  • 54:17

    uh won't want to put it up that happens

  • 54:18

    to artists a lot where they they have

  • 54:20

    something that

  • 54:20

    may even be more than six months old it

  • 54:22

    might be six years old

  • 54:24

    and they're like nah we can't do that

  • 54:25

    this is old it's like no one else is not

  • 54:27

    old to nobody else

  • 54:28

    right as long as it doesn't have like a

  • 54:29

    uh uh timely

  • 54:31

    kitschy chase in the middle of the super

  • 54:33

    auto two vocal uh you know in 2009 or

  • 54:36

    you're not talking about

  • 54:38

    you know what i mean there's a certain

  • 54:38

    [ __ ] that super dates a record yeah

  • 54:41

    or it's super topical yeah if you told

  • 54:43

    me punchlines that are like wow

  • 54:45

    while we're in our music geeky bag i

  • 54:48

    love it nerdy

  • 54:49

    i'm not mad at it on saturday i'm not

  • 54:51

    mad at it i love nerd music

  • 54:52

    while we're in this music geeky bag i

  • 54:54

    have a few very short brief

  • 54:56

    announcements for anyone that needs to

  • 54:58

    hear them

  • 55:00

    uh damn just that fast

  • 55:04

    i thought this could be announcement of

  • 55:05

    us making a diss track back for the

  • 55:07

    redditors

  • 55:08

    i don't even know if i want to give

  • 55:09

    light to that

  • 55:11

    even though he killed us damn what was

  • 55:14

    y'all just talking about i had two

  • 55:15

    really good

  • 55:16

    dating dated music yeah putting out

  • 55:17

    music being scared to put it out

  • 55:20

    because it feels dated oh got it buck

  • 55:23

    stallion

  • 55:23

    hilariousness very quick why you should

  • 55:27

    give me that record

  • 55:27

    two very quick short announcements for

  • 55:30

    anyone who needs to hear this

  • 55:32

    meg

  • 55:47

    announcement number one any was the

  • 55:49

    first stallion to get turned on

  • 55:52

    announcement number one to anybody that

  • 55:54

    needs to hear this

  • 55:58

    contracts are changing what

  • 56:02

    if you don't know it you're somewhere

  • 56:06

    you shouldn't be

  • 56:09

    hey i only know because i've seen a few

  • 56:15

    and i can read them so i'm only pointing

  • 56:18

    this out

  • 56:20

    because kanye said whatever he said

  • 56:22

    about the contracts

  • 56:24

    and contracts be [ __ ] all you [ __ ]

  • 56:26

    up and none of us have ever seen a

  • 56:28

    legible contract

  • 56:29

    i'm here to tell you in the next few

  • 56:32

    years

  • 56:33

    you should see shorter form legible

  • 56:37

    contracts

  • 56:38

    hit a round of applause for me what do

  • 56:39

    you think that's happening it is

  • 56:41

    happening oh

  • 56:43

    it's happening it's starting to happen

  • 56:45

    this is the very beginning very

  • 56:46

    beginning

  • 56:48

    very beginning normalize that normalize

  • 56:50

    that that's one

  • 56:51

    right and two really quick these seem

  • 56:54

    like very obvious announcements

  • 56:56

    but for whoever needs to hear it clout

  • 56:59

    is not currency repeat it with me

  • 57:04

    cloud is not currency one more time for

  • 57:08

    the road

  • 57:08

    cloud is not currency

  • 57:12

    i see listen when they say clout because

  • 57:14

    y'all fool me with the slang [ __ ] y'all

  • 57:16

    be doing like the gen zers and the kids

  • 57:18

    y'all say cloud and we think of cloud

  • 57:19

    chase and we just think of [ __ ]

  • 57:20

    seeking attention and trying to get cool

  • 57:22

    but wait no

  • 57:23

    it's the reinvention of the look

  • 57:26

    this is the re-emergence of doing

  • 57:28

    something off the strength

  • 57:30

    and for the look and for some of you

  • 57:32

    [ __ ]

  • 57:33

    affiliations and relationships are very

  • 57:36

    important but you all need to separate

  • 57:38

    when to go that route and when to go

  • 57:40

    this route and it's really pissing me

  • 57:42

    off you and rs on that chatty house some

  • 57:44

    of you

  • 57:46

    i'm glad i'm going to happen anymore

  • 57:47

    because i feel like those people you

  • 57:48

    [ __ ] are

  • 57:49

    [ __ ] liars preying on the hopes and

  • 57:51

    dreams of aspiring artists you [ __ ]

  • 57:54

    deadbeats

  • 57:56

    one day i'm going to walk in there and

  • 57:58

    question you all about what the [ __ ]

  • 58:00

    you've a an art

  • 58:01

    i'm bumping into a and rs who don't know

  • 58:04

    what a and r

  • 58:04

    stands for i'm bumping into anr's

  • 58:08

    who from morning tonight are telling me

  • 58:11

    about what [ __ ] are you in the office

  • 58:13

    or not

  • 58:14

    are you at work did craig cowman call

  • 58:20

    are you on salary [ __ ]

  • 58:23

    is your contract about up what's the

  • 58:26

    last guy you brought in here

  • 58:27

    like tell the truth if a and r and now

  • 58:30

    and i'm off on the tangent from uh cloud

  • 58:32

    being currency but if and are

  • 58:33

    now means hey just go to twitter and

  • 58:36

    instagram and check who has the highest

  • 58:38

    followers and then try to offer them

  • 58:39

    some money

  • 58:40

    you [ __ ] are trash by pseudo

  • 58:44

    that's it well it should be you have to

  • 58:46

    do a little bit of that

  • 58:48

    like as someone who looks for

  • 58:50

    up-and-coming artists one of them [ __ ]

  • 58:51

    was in there

  • 58:52

    one of them [ __ ] was in there and ran

  • 58:54

    into the [ __ ] he scammed

  • 58:56

    oh well that's a whole different country

  • 58:58

    shut up but i will say

  • 58:59

    if there's someone who's looking for

  • 59:00

    up-and-coming talent you do want to see

  • 59:02

    that they have some

  • 59:03

    uh work ethic meaning they are building

  • 59:07

    some [ __ ] on their own

  • 59:08

    i'm not the only fans they are you bet

  • 59:11

    that this spot talent develop it

  • 59:13

    yeah nurture it i see what you sometimes

  • 59:15

    give them the budget

  • 59:17

    popping up giving the good beats listen

  • 59:18

    to the album yeah yeah i'll give him the

  • 59:20

    beats

  • 59:21

    give him the beats now this isn't a

  • 59:23

    direct one

  • 59:24

    chatty house a r thing but it is

  • 59:26

    connected to it can i read someone's bio

  • 59:28

    from from the chatty house

  • 59:29

    sure okay read this directly

  • 59:33

    supermodel i do it all high fashion

  • 59:35

    runway music

  • 59:36

    swimsuit commercial sports fitness print

  • 59:39

    i also cast direct music videos parties

  • 59:42

    such as chris brown tyga drake sway lee

  • 59:45

    and more

  • 59:45

    that's facts that's a uh oh no she's

  • 59:47

    like a little bit yeah

  • 59:48

    what did any of that mean that's a

  • 59:50

    madonna you gotta read through that

  • 59:51

    she's just a little swiss army knife

  • 59:53

    that's what she no she's a madonna

  • 59:54

    that's facts right there

  • 59:56

    she runs a brothel yeah she's a swiss

  • 59:57

    army knife okay from switzerland right

  • 1:00:00

    now not rory in women's business who

  • 1:00:02

    said that was a woman

  • 1:00:04

    you said she oh well i don't know she

  • 1:00:06

    identifies that

  • 1:00:07

    that's true that is true she could be

  • 1:00:09

    fluid good play

  • 1:00:10

    speaking of getting in women's business

  • 1:00:13

    it wasn't me

  • 1:00:14

    and i'm not getting into it because i

  • 1:00:16

    went into it before and they tore me

  • 1:00:18

    apart and i'm not doing it again

  • 1:00:20

    but i do see what's going on between

  • 1:00:22

    blank and blank

  • 1:00:24

    oh if there's the potential of something

  • 1:00:26

    going on between blink and blink

  • 1:00:28

    thanks for clearing that out i see it

  • 1:00:30

    from behind the scenes

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    that's it okay all right who's blank and

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    blank

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    mega nick

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    something going on as far as not

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    physically nothing moving on

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    i'm too early i'm too late i'm reading

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    too much it's too deep i'm in a woman's

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    business

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    and i only nicki tear me up especially

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    while she's pregnant uh

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    best of luck pregnant she had a healthy

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    baby especially when she just had a

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    healthy baby uh congrats to the queen

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    yeah i'm not getting into that

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    i ain't gonna be [ __ ] start pointing

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    [ __ ] out again

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    okay no no no no no and not that it's

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    happening

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    because i don't know can't confirm [ __ ]

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    but you think you're thinking that's all

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    [ __ ] looks away yeah [ __ ] looks away

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    that's all and i'm out of women's

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    business now no problem

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    all right maul did you uh did you a r

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    the 3 30 in houston uh benny wrecker

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    uh no i didn't a r but you know he sent

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    it to me when he on chatty house would

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    you say are you an artist

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    no okay yeah he sent it to me a few

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    weeks just came out just what

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    that's like yesterday it's on the

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    conflicted uh soundtrack he getting busy

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    yeah he's talking about the whole

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    incident in houston i hate when artists

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    that i like are on soundtracks

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    why it's their it's their uh their movie

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    oh that's different

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    yeah that's different well to answer

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    your question as to uh

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    why because i know how it is when you

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    just get giving a song to the soundtrack

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    oh i mean for sure but i feel like some

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    now

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    are we gonna listen talk afterwards i

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    think that's good

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    yo house full of war art i pulled up the

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    walmart

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    [ __ ] y'all forget it man forget it

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    forget it

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    yo oh

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    oh yo get the yo

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    some of you know me is benny bullets was

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    in me

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    it was a semi it chill hey yo

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    oh this was the flow

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    i didn't realize what he thought i ain't

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    peeping

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    a lookout at walmart ain't no pool of

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    that man i'm not letting him do that

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    i'm not letting him do that i'm not

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    letting people do that make a mistake

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    yeah didn't have a mistake

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    fam i'm here to get tank tops what the

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    [ __ ] do i need to look out for

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    only one mistake he didn't have a

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    lookout no nick stay your ass home and

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    send you a man and go get the [ __ ]

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    tank tops

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    love you being off the hook but can't

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    take the hood out i love you billy love

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    you look out at walmart is hilarious i

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    just

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    that's talent having to look out at

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    walmart no

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    coming up with that only one mistake

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    that i made

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    let's see what he did

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    hey pause this pause this

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    this guy's good yeah he's pretty good at

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    rapping this guy is good

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    you can ride well why the hell did you

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    have a quarter million of jewelry going

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    to walmart that's what he's saying

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    that's what i'm saying yeah i'm only

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    saying it now that he's saying that i

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    would have never said that if he didn't

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    say it

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    take me out the hood can't take the hood

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    out that's it ben yeah it's a mistake

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    a lot of rappers i wore my jury to the

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    spade game so

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    yeah gotta go ahead you learn [ __ ]

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    oh man it's dope record man yeah 3 30 i

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    lifted my chain it didn't even hit my

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    head that [ __ ] was all net

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    [ __ ] took that [ __ ] off at least

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    hey when you take your [ __ ] off smooth

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    when [ __ ] got the toaster

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    that means you're nervous like man let

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    me i don't even want them to think

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    he took that [ __ ] and ran i waited a

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    couple seconds and ran after him

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    five seconds later [ __ ] what you

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    running for

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    he's going yeah yeah he's going he's out

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    even if you guys look at the hammer

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    still

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    back loud if you don't go back and bid

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    your hand

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    [ __ ] you had four books before i showed

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    up

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    you'll get that chain back

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    oh yo the look on my face when i finally

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    got to the right dude in the projects to

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    tell me what i was like that's all that

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    [ __ ] it's gone my [ __ ]

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    didn't move fast enough shout out to

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    that guy that breaks it down like real

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    simple nice shout out

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    oh hit that guy an important figure

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    but wait you thought i was going to

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    shout out the robbery yeah

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    but wait you know what's [ __ ] up about

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    getting robbed

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    even that sentence outside of the

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    obvious anybody can get robbed for sure

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    anybody get to drop on them

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    the streets of the streets that's fine

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    but because there's no

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    once you get over that once your pride

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    is not affected by that you're cool

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    right the pride in the issue comes in

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    when years later you were just at the

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    spot at a party with mad bad [ __ ] and

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    just happened to be a few harlem [ __ ]

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    that

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    know about what happened and they bring

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    it up yo you ever found out about money

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    yeah you never got up with money you did

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    that [ __ ]

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    no no no i'm actually trying to forget

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    about it i'm trying to relive that

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    now i got [ __ ] in front of this house

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    right now that's funny move down south

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    oh oh okay oh damn let me tell my [ __ ]

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    oh that is some funny [ __ ] that's so

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    funny i know only i got raw come on

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    that's what i'm saying they gotta break

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    that [ __ ]

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    no you have to grab and punch me out of

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