Clout Is Not Currency
Joe Budden Podcast Episode 398, “Clout Is Not Currency,” released December 14, 2020. On this episode: A bunch of new music was released but Joe and the guys begin with a review of Kid Cudi's latest project, "Man of the Moon III" (1:49). Also, the guys share their theories on people going to the moon (1:25:13), Lil Wayne facing major charges again (1:32:00), and Bill Simmons trying to start a union within his podcast network (2:10:15) and more! Full transcript and searchable timestamps below.

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all right go
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no
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microphone
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actually you come back
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park microphone check one two what is
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this the jbp
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boys bike to business welcome to episode
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398 of the joe budden podcast i'm your
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humble gracious great for my highly
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favorite host joe budden
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here with a few of my nearest and
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dearest good brother maul is here today
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how you doing i'm good family how are
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you
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good i'm real good love the fall colors
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you got going on today a lot of feng
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shui you're doing that
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you're doing that man i love good tones
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no i'm feeling that we getting right to
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it today parks how you doing i'm doing
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well
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glad to hear it rory what's going on
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with you good man i can't complain cash
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up
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e-rab on the boards huh you know the
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vibes when e-rab is back there
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savannah's here corey is here
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alex the greatest here everybody's doing
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fine so let's get right to the shits huh
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new kid cuddy
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go how you feeling joey the king
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the king is back this podcast is
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sponsored by man
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you know the vibes and with that being
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said
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new kid cudi i actually think cuddy was
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one of if not the first artist
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to send money via an app on a phone
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probably so
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tell tell the people your little inside
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joke that you guys are going to continue
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for the next cut for the next three
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hours i've been saying on this podcast
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for years that cuddy
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is the reason for how music sounds now
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let's get to the real [ __ ] man who's an
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atheist
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not me i have
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i'll [ __ ] with a beliefs beliefs i
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believe [ __ ] uh no come on let's get
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right into it new music
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aliens oh hmm aliens oh rory's got
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breaking alien news
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i didn't break the news have y'all not
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been paying attention the aliens are
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here
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well there are a lot of uh tell us tell
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us
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inform inform the listeners former uh is
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that does that say israel
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yes israeli okay former israeli space
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security chief
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says extraterrestrial exists and trump
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knew about it
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but he was able to say extraterrestrials
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but not israeli
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because mo i'm an american
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these colors don't these colors don't
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run oh my god
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these colors don't run
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your man knew about it the whole time
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maul of course aliens exist who doesn't
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think that
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no but they're here like they're
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chilling and actually i think you owe
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parks
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joe myself and i think the rest of the
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roman apology yeah you are not going to
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storm area 51 with us uh when we brought
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up what was that six months ago
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yeah i wasn't going either it was the uh
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wikileaks guy that said they don't exist
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he was doing all his hacking and
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couldn't find no wikipedia you can do
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that on your own
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yeah it's true no aliens exist yeah yeah
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aliens exist
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and they said that we're just not ready
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for them do you guys believe in portals
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pornos like do you believe there's like
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hidden portals in the
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in the world that take you other places
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and other dimensions
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ah no i'm a little i'm not saying it's
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impossible but i'm not
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sold on that i do you ever been to
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broadway junction possible it's a weird
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broadway junction yes so there's a
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portal under the hood what was that [ __ ]
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called back in the day with the dude
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travel through time and went into
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alternate universes as a different guy
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back to the future no [ __ ] character
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there was there was a real story of and
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i watched the classic shot on the fly
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don't get me started don't rock don't
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rally
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don't rock the boat oh yeah don't do
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that please don't do that listen shout
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out to our soundcloud listenership shout
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out to our apple listenership shout out
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to our youtube viewership
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uh pardon me uh subscribe right here
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swipe up down
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subscribe add all of that all of that
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[ __ ] that the youtubers are supposed to
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say
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uh now where were we aliens are here got
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it and right uh
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there's some doc watch it about a guy
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that went up on a ski lift for
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to ski and ended up the next day in
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california with all his ski equipment on
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so i do believe that yes portals exist
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you know well let's just throw this
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whole podcast out of whack and do [ __ ]
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out of order
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let's do what that just made me think of
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your honor show and i did watch it
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i did too you watched fire you watched i
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didn't watch fire
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why are you always the last one to the
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watch this show but that's a that's a
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fairly new
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it's it's feeling i'm doing it all the
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time though yeah oh well i don't know
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about that
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but yeah this show a lot of people
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haven't seen you on it yet and there's
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only one episode in harry's not watching
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television at home you guys
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no i'm not really tv guys
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i have a couple the tvs look at rory now
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that is a really good show great one
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episode in a
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great episode yeah because we don't know
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how it's going to play out but
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you know uh i forgot his name was the uh
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the judge's name
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uh from breaking bad brian chris yeah
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so they have the actors that have been
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in legendary shows
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i just like where it's going so far i
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get it it's episode
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one because what a s what a storyline
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the sun pissed me off though he
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was just he just pissed me off he was
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just doing something we can't do a
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spoiler alert yeah i'm not too early we
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can't do that but he's just still all
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spoiled for something he's just doing
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dumb [ __ ] it's like family
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but great first episode yeah yeah great
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first episode
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really good uh really good first episode
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this show comes on sundays
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sundays at 10 p.m hour longer 30 minutes
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hour oh it's lit
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yeah i think it's only one episode 30
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minutes okay i'll catch up i'll catch up
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tonight
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yeah yeah great great first episode yeah
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when the when the fire show comes out
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sunday it does something different
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tonight sunday's hbo
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sundays was always the night for this
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one day off yeah
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yeah good water cooler talk you know
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what i mean it does something it does
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uh okay come on we can get the uh the
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rest of this [ __ ] later back to music
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back to music
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mall where what was your water cooler
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huh what was your water cooler the deli
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the ice machine in front of bodega the
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stash
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yeah you know the ice machine where you
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got to get the you got to get the teeth
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and project lobby
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yeah that's what we talked [ __ ] that
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right there about about a mailbox on the
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corner
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yeah i just just wondered what yours was
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yeah fire hydrant
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[ __ ] right there when we go into the
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second lockdown are you not going to fly
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anything in
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or fly to something or fly to houston or
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atlanta or vegas or pennsylvania
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i'll probably fly somewhere yeah i want
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to get out of new york for a while see
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something different
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a little light combo it's not a bad
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a little tricky right now has anything
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altered about
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you guys new year's eve plans as of yet
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or no i was still down with the origin
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miami
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you sold you ain't let me look at noel
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style
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joking yeah no no plans other than what
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we talked about another
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tentative plans those weren't like
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concrete yeah i get drunk with my
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friends
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that's always a good idea yeah they
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closed indoor dining again
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so i hate to be this guy but boy do i
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feel the depression in new york since i
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got back from miami
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you got to take care of this take you
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back bro don't do that don't laugh at me
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you feel it because everybody just feels
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like people are out but you don't
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feel it when you are in it and don't
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leave it and you're conditioned and
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you're here and
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it's only because when you got back from
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miami could cuddy drop
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damn i didn't even think about it like
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that parks he was waiting for joe
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that wasn't a joke joe he was waiting
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for jody depression is serious
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they're going to drag this kid cuddy
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thing absolutely i listen to the first
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five
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and i like the she knows this that's
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probably my favorite out of the first
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five that i heard
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she knows this was a good record
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internets i
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have nothing to offer [ __ ] about this
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particular body of work
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it is a body of work i have no critique
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analyzation none i got nothing for you
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man
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you mean like she knows this i see you
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bopping a little bit you playing it
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didn't get a chance to really digest it
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okay he ain't here one of those okay
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didn't let it yeah i mean gotta gotta
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sit with me like this i'm just dropped
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like album just dropped you guys come on
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i can't come in here and when did you
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press
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1201 i think i'm pretty i'm if you can
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remember i mean
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if my recollection is right i'm pretty
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sure that was 1201.
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it was one after when you press play you
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were an [ __ ] i was waiting by the
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phone
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yeah i know true me too me too yeah then
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you felt like wow and i understand where
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everyone got their style from
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right i mean it's too early man it just
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dropped y'all it did
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uh it just came out it did that's what i
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told you i heard only
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heard the first yeah we gotta give come
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on we gotta give our legends a fair
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shake i heard jack harlow i like jack
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harlow
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i really enjoyed cutting his exactly
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you've had no opinion on on this album
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at all
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gotta give our legends a fair shake man
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can't just you can't you can't be
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one of the music uh journalists that
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just rush out to have a take or an
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opinion on something sometimes you gotta
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let things sit well
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you bought it that's where i am now uh
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going on seven years of podcasting
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dominance
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you you bought you bought the album
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right because you support music well
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yeah i mean
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quick seven fights for some of that
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if you were gonna you was there you
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joined me on the journey if you're gonna
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put on some like melodic [ __ ]
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which i mean park's
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but why you ain't hit album though he
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heard it he had mad time to hit albums
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cuddy's shaking in his boot got him
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shaking in his boots
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did y'all hear it i liked it i listened
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to it i liked it especially the first
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half the second half got back into his
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more spacey vibes which i'm
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i get it but it's not as much for me the
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first half sounded like
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cuddy early cuddy okay to me i enjoyed
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it
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you did i enjoyed it yes and i like the
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spacey part
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i'm not big on this basically spacey
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part that's what we call it the spacey
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part
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i like the spaceship but like make it a
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bop though which was the first half of
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the hour no i can appreciate that
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someone has been this sad for this long
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yeah that's difficult that's difficult
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that's what you gotta think about like
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most artists
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they'll be sad and then they'll come
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into like wow i'm happy now i finally
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figured out like who i am
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and i no longer have those feelings and
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now let's talk about mental health now
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he's still full-fledged depressed
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but how look at the titles of the tracks
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beautiful trip tequila shots
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joe could never another day that just
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sounds like a great time how are you
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depressed
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she knows this she always knows this
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then you dive
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but then then you get damaged yeah then
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it's heavy yeah
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jumped in the shallow end oh sad people
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that's where it takes a turn
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september 16th is when she dumped him
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joe's so mad he's not mr solo dolo
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yeah it's a fact for the third time but
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the first five i
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i like she knows this out of the first
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five i like the heavens i'm listening to
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him
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i like a lot of the first first half i'm
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gonna check this i'm listening to it
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this weekend
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but a lot of music came out though is it
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still in your phone from when you
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purchased it
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what is it about cutting that doesn't uh
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speak to your soul
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that joe speaks it yeah what is it not
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this album aside i didn't say anything
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no no but in the past
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he didn't say a thing no no in the past
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you've spoken about you don't really
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vibe with cuddy's music like that can we
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pull it up
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when i said that can't believe you said
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it i'm not going to i'm not going to say
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you said something that you didn't say
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don't recall
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man oh okay but you seem like you don't
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really
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i don't recall okay all right i'ma
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listen to it and give it a shot because
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i like cuddy so i'm gonna give it a shot
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same i'm not as big a cuddy's fan as
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some people are but
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same i'll listen to it i love this first
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um the stuff in between not so much
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but i enjoyed this yeah man for me it's
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just the right timing for card man
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well i mean that's there's that's
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validity to that i hate you so much
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tell us about the right stuff it is for
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you you don't play cuddy
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every time you're not going to the gym
- 12:25
and playing cuddy going for a peppy run
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now you know joe is just sad and when he
- 12:29
hears somebody else sad he gets mad yeah
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yeah i just want to be scared because
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you're mad at the sad because y'all
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going to get the cut hive to attack me
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and joe hasn't said a word
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other than i gotta check it out why are
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you scared of the cut hive i'm scared of
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all the hives parts
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some of the houses are cool some of the
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hives are cool i don't want i don't want
- 12:46
smoke with any of the eyes but are you
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guys done with your
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detailed kid cudi um if no one else
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wants to talk about it i guess
- 12:54
album deep dives well like i said only
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heard the first i was expecting rory to
- 12:57
really come in here and give it up
- 12:58
for he seems like especially like uh out
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of the year
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but now he's trying to downplay it you
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know already
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calling it yeah i mean off before i even
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heard it yeah
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yeah that's 1201 out of the year i'll
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i'll get into the album this weekend
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okay but there's a lot of new music too
- 13:17
tourists yeah there is
- 13:18
this album i love jack harlow yeah
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sounds good
- 13:21
i was uh pleasantly surprised yeah i
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like it too
- 13:24
sounds real good i like um drunk with a
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little baby he also trashed
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why no because we're not [ __ ] on it
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you don't like jack hollow's album oh no
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i didn't hear this one either
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damn you only hear nothing i'm not going
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to either why why is that because i have
- 13:39
better things to do with my time in the
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pandemic
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and listen to music yep that's actually
- 13:43
like the perfect thing to do
- 13:44
pandemic fly something out now they want
- 13:46
to tell me what to do in the pandora can
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you all talk about jack harlow please
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i like it sounds just like i said i
- 13:51
don't listen to this one one time but it
- 13:52
sounds good i like it i thought he'd be
- 13:53
super poppy but yeah you get he got him
- 13:55
some pockets
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uh harry frog got adobe production
- 13:59
he's on two huge pop singles right now
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so yeah but i know i know what the
- 14:04
wrestling music isn't isn't really don't
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i've never listened to the rest of you
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don't
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jump in the white one huh
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this is white on white crime white on
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white music debates
- 14:14
fighting white music i mean he's no m
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is he better than g eazy
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no album is good i [ __ ] with the album i
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[ __ ] with with jack harlow
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every album that came out is good man no
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i wouldn't say that
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well i'm telling you something about
- 14:29
this week what came out that was bad
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which which album didn't you like joe i
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just said every album that came out this
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week was good
- 14:36
uh but you can't say that cause you
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didn't hear it and i can still say it
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all right well jack hall has a good
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album though it sounds good production
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is good
- 14:44
you talking this [ __ ] on there i like it
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yeah
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shout out to brady got one on there i
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think yeah i leave wrote something on
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there with chris brown and jack too so
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shout out to y'all i like that i reckon
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yeah he put out a project private sweet
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three i didn't hear this one yet
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shout out to everyone in the industry we
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have relationships with
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i have no relationships with jack harlow
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i didn't say nothing away i don't know
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i don't know i was an artist in person
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so yeah sure you got me there
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no yeah i'll use my [ __ ] but i didn't
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hit i didn't hit a project yet but i
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will check it out though
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okay somehow fetty snuck another album
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out and
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no one seems to know about it i had zero
- 15:22
clue that he was putting music out
- 15:24
he's put out two projects this year i
- 15:26
think and i don't think i've seen any
- 15:27
human being talk about them
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and that's pretty crazy that's weird to
- 15:31
me that's weird but why
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why is it weird when was fetty's run was
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what year
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i think what 2015 16 somewhere in there
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yeah 15 would probably
- 15:40
sound about right so it's been five
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years since that
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colossal run that he had of just
- 15:46
covering billboard completely in like 10
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[ __ ] hits
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in one year but yeah it hasn't been that
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way for
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i still feel bad about that i do yeah me
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too because i think there's a lot of the
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music that
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is is popping now and a lot of these
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artists that are popping out
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are offsprings of fetty i was excited i
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was saying it in the moment
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and boy did i sound like the biggest
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nuthead hater
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in the world in the moment it was a
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weird strategy but i was like yo
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oh when they empty the clip yeah
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but if you just get back to that time in
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music i sounded like the biggest hater
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in the world joe
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well i mean streaming had started to
- 16:28
completely take over
- 16:29
if at that time if so you had eight
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records
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right that you thought was that [ __ ]
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and and they were and you were right
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yeah
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no way on god's green earth are you
- 16:41
putting all of those records out in a
- 16:42
year i don't know
- 16:43
let me not say i don't know how somebody
- 16:45
at 300 convinced him to do that or did
- 16:47
it without him really knowing what was
- 16:48
going on but boy did they rob him of an
- 16:51
opportunity well i think it
- 16:52
uh a lot of those cases there were
- 16:53
records that he was releasing just on
- 16:55
soundcloud before he was even affiliated
- 16:56
i'm not gonna totally put this on 300
- 16:58
because i feel like fetty put a lot of
- 16:59
those out by himself
- 17:02
yeah not a lot of them
- 17:05
a good majority of how many were on yo i
- 17:08
hate doing this but go to this ig
- 17:10
let me see the uh the streams you know
- 17:11
how they put their little numbers up for
- 17:13
the year
- 17:14
oh he probably has a little numbers up
- 17:17
look at you hate no but that [ __ ] look
- 17:19
at those that's crazy pretty good
- 17:20
numbers
- 17:21
yeah yeah 393 million streams it's
- 17:24
insane
- 17:24
yo when actually now that y'all bring
- 17:26
this up when i think about the decade in
- 17:28
review because i always go to that
- 17:31
uh that uh longevity house of balloons
- 17:35
take care era what was that 20 years
- 17:39
ago 2012. 2011. the fatty error is
- 17:42
pretty high for me
- 17:43
yeah he had a [ __ ] run yeah but i
- 17:46
never
- 17:46
we never mentioned it let's definitely
- 17:48
know the run but
- 17:50
that moment in time encapsulated in
- 17:52
hip-hop
- 17:53
it was a year meant a lot it meant a lot
- 17:56
for me well not girls from patterson she
- 17:57
like saw his ascension and [ __ ] and like
- 17:59
his friends with his friends and all
- 18:01
that kind of thing so
- 18:02
like maybe it's a bad judge but she
- 18:04
still plays that music
- 18:06
and i still like this [ __ ] was banging
- 18:07
like this was a hit record you know what
- 18:09
it's similar to to me
- 18:11
it's kind of similar to a boogie okay
- 18:15
i could see that yeah like a boogie from
- 18:17
the bronx like people people
- 18:18
people knew saw him like they saw the
- 18:20
soundcloud stop it
- 18:22
go out of here no disrespect to a boogie
- 18:24
but stop it no it's i'm just saying i'm
- 18:25
just saying this
- 18:26
would die for one of those i think that
- 18:28
no what i'm saying is it is
- 18:30
he says he's had some big records yeah
- 18:31
and he's had a longer career
- 18:34
i think i think fetty would die for the
- 18:35
a boogie career no no i'm just talking
- 18:37
about
- 18:38
i don't know that as far as just just
- 18:40
seeing coming from soundcloud
- 18:42
sound wise to me the baby would also be
- 18:44
a a
- 18:46
correlation i could make because of the
- 18:47
fact that fetty's stuff was kind of
- 18:50
more major key happy bop
- 18:53
sounding i see and i see what you're
- 18:54
saying yeah no i i get that correlation
- 18:56
for sure
- 18:57
all right so you think because because i
- 18:59
feel like fetty now a lot of times
- 19:01
artists will have this crazy year and
- 19:03
then the sound of music will change and
- 19:04
they'll no longer be relevant because
- 19:06
they don't make that sound of music
- 19:08
fetty now all of the trap queen
- 19:11
679 my way all in 2020 could live and it
- 19:14
would
- 19:14
sound perfectly fine yeah do you think
- 19:17
because
- 19:19
he had to sustain the amount of hits
- 19:22
that he did at one time is why he
- 19:24
started to fizzle i found because this
- 19:26
sound of music works
- 19:28
now i'm gonna reply to you i'm sorry
- 19:30
camera people that's my stomach
- 19:32
i'm gonna reply to that and i think i
- 19:34
found
- 19:35
the perfect way to explain some of my
- 19:37
issue
- 19:38
with both fetty and cuddy
- 19:42
and that is that in this microwave
- 19:45
era and before i say this point let me
- 19:48
just say that being a [ __ ]
- 19:50
music critiquer or whatever you call
- 19:52
this [ __ ] boy is it a
- 19:53
tough tough job in 2020 like it is
- 19:56
it is and i don't think that
- 19:57
conversation has had enough either way
- 20:00
so much music yeah it's a lot of music
- 20:02
comes out you can't hear it all
- 20:04
the artists are sensitive well that's
- 20:06
all there's only but so many
- 20:08
platforms that can and will discuss your
- 20:11
[ __ ] like it's a tough time
- 20:12
and this year particularly has been
- 20:14
difficult because there hasn't been a
- 20:16
lot of like
- 20:16
blockbuster kind of releases a lot of
- 20:18
good music but not like
- 20:20
no drake cole kendrick beyonce
- 20:23
jay none of like the super duper duper
- 20:26
duper stars put out music this year so
- 20:28
it's been a weird year
- 20:29
musically in a year's been dead i'll be
- 20:31
wanting to tell his [ __ ] dad to tell
- 20:32
me that
- 20:33
we fell off i'm like fan no y'all fell
- 20:35
off the year has been trashed it's dead
- 20:36
podcasting is like a reactive type of
- 20:38
thing
- 20:39
yeah sometimes but listen back to my
- 20:41
point i should in this in this microwave
- 20:43
and this microwave era the part that
- 20:46
never dawned on me was
- 20:48
now you only you get an even
- 20:51
even more of a limited amount of time
- 20:53
with your sound
- 20:55
as opposed to back in the day where
- 20:58
maybe you would have had a longer run
- 21:01
with your sound and style people catch
- 21:04
up a lot quicker
- 21:04
a lot they figure out they fast stay
- 21:07
fast
- 21:08
and and for me when that happens
- 21:11
you have to guard against it yeah like
- 21:14
it's great to inspire and it's great for
- 21:16
people to it's great to do that
- 21:18
but you have to be prepared to take your
- 21:21
sound
- 21:22
and elevate it for sure i think of that
- 21:24
a lot in terms of us with the podcast
- 21:26
like
- 21:27
in february we'll be going on seven
- 21:29
years after our six-year anniversary
- 21:31
and it's like okay we've been doing this
- 21:33
for x amount of time
- 21:35
and we've been the best for x amount of
- 21:37
time
- 21:39
that's not enough how do you improve on
- 21:43
being the best short grow change or your
- 21:45
style or your sound
- 21:47
and for me both of these gentlemen
- 21:50
for different reasons seem to have let
- 21:53
that get away from them in this
- 21:55
microwave era because rory's right the
- 21:56
sound is still there
- 21:58
yeah how they are producing their sound
- 22:01
may indeed still be the same
- 22:04
it just don't sound the same for me
- 22:07
today
- 22:08
i felt cuddy's album uh he kind of
- 22:10
tapped into more
- 22:12
current sonics at least on the first
- 22:14
half from what i heard
- 22:16
i agree i felt like cuddy not went i
- 22:18
can't say went in the travis scotland
- 22:20
because so much of what who travis scott
- 22:21
is
- 22:22
as an artist is because of cuddy i felt
- 22:24
like he went
- 22:25
more in what his sound has developed
- 22:27
into but that's you
- 22:29
in my opinion in your backpack bag how
- 22:32
so
- 22:32
because you're right about that if you
- 22:34
get to the core of it
- 22:36
but who's doing it better oh i mean i
- 22:38
think there's been plenty of
- 22:39
artists you can say have taken a style
- 22:41
and done it better than the person prior
- 22:43
to well well that's why i'm telling you
- 22:45
where
- 22:45
what my position is because i would feel
- 22:47
like a fool to come in here and say the
- 22:49
things that i've said
- 22:50
about uh let's about janae aiko
- 22:54
and her last project that whole argument
- 22:56
i made
- 22:57
about that family tree and some of your
- 23:00
some of your some of your sons and
- 23:02
daughters are doing it
- 23:04
like if i'm gonna say that about about
- 23:06
that beautiful woman uh
- 23:08
then i ain't gonna not say it when i
- 23:10
feel it about cuddy too and i do
- 23:12
you know what i do about that i do i do
- 23:15
i'm sorry i'm sorry
- 23:16
cud hive i think that's something and
- 23:19
maybe
- 23:19
oh god because the person going through
- 23:23
the door
- 23:24
first is trying to figure the sound out
- 23:28
it's a brand new thing they don't know
- 23:29
what's going to work about it they don't
- 23:30
know what
- 23:31
people are going to gravitate to more
- 23:33
what um they can change in it because
- 23:35
they have no point of reference so when
- 23:36
you have someone like cuddy that creates
- 23:38
this sound yeah you have people like yay
- 23:40
and travis um and [ __ ]
- 23:43
damn near the moody r b now to figure
- 23:46
out what is good about it what they like
- 23:48
about it what they can evolve
- 23:49
in that sound change that sound they
- 23:51
know what works with that sound yeah
- 23:52
it's not fair to the person that started
- 23:53
it
- 23:54
they don't have the same point of
- 23:55
reference as the person that comes after
- 23:56
right so what
- 23:59
so what it's unfair to say why didn't
- 24:01
you i don't develop the sound so much
- 24:03
more i invented the [ __ ] sound
- 24:04
these people took it and realized what
- 24:06
was good and bad about it and developed
- 24:07
it that's how music is that's how
- 24:08
anything works
- 24:09
that's true that's how sports works not
- 24:10
true not true i don't i don't believe
- 24:13
that because you created something
- 24:15
you're
- 24:15
exempt from improving upon it no that's
- 24:17
not what i said
- 24:18
that's exactly what you said that's what
- 24:19
i said i said you said he created it so
- 24:22
i said it's nice so what i'll say it's
- 24:23
not what i said
- 24:26
to break up you guys bickering about
- 24:27
what you said uh part of the issue with
- 24:29
that
- 24:30
uh the argument of developing a sound
- 24:32
and creating is everyone has the same
- 24:33
tools now like talking about how back in
- 24:35
the day you had a longer time with your
- 24:36
own sound
- 24:37
everyone has access to the same exact
- 24:39
[ __ ] same drum sounds
- 24:41
same output uh synth sounds same
- 24:44
auto-tune
- 24:44
plug-ins that's part of the reason how
- 24:47
you're going to use it is what makes you
- 24:48
a great artist
- 24:49
yeah of course i mean everyone has pro
- 24:51
tools but how you
- 24:52
agree with it and do what it's not
- 24:54
supposed to do but there's a lot of
- 24:55
jeans there's a lot of people that just
- 24:57
fall into the okay this is
- 24:59
this is what people are doing i'm gonna
- 25:01
do this i just think it's more of a
- 25:02
luxury to take from us a proven sound
- 25:04
and develop it and change it and grow it
- 25:06
and take it to the next level than the
- 25:08
person that is to come in
- 25:09
with just ground level i'm inventing
- 25:12
something completely new that has not
- 25:13
been proven
- 25:14
yes i think it's easier as the next
- 25:16
person to to develop that sound and
- 25:18
that's the point
- 25:18
of the next person is to take it to the
- 25:20
next level for sure you want everything
- 25:22
to keep growing and developing that's
- 25:23
your
- 25:24
job too is what i'm saying i get what
- 25:26
you're saying
- 25:27
you know you pass the baton and the next
- 25:29
man should
- 25:30
should be able to improve upon it yeah
- 25:32
but more importantly
- 25:33
i do believe it's your responsibility as
- 25:36
well keep elevating to
- 25:37
yeah absolutely but at the same time
- 25:39
that's what artistry is about yeah let
- 25:41
me just tell you [ __ ] out there and
- 25:42
i'ma let you i'm sorry monoculture let
- 25:43
me tell you
- 25:44
hey you rappers out there all of you if
- 25:47
you put the travis scott ad-lib in your
- 25:49
song
- 25:51
i am gonna think about travis scott yeah
- 25:54
what the [ __ ] is difficult about that i
- 25:56
don't think i'm the bad guy for that no
- 25:58
not at all
- 25:59
and if you make me think about travis
- 26:01
scott
- 26:03
the bar is hot yeah you better be better
- 26:05
so what do you want me to do
- 26:06
parks i'm gonna put the [ __ ] out
- 26:08
morning
- 26:21
i get it so i mean it's just tough
- 26:25
it's tough for it's tough for me i don't
- 26:27
and i don't want that to come out like
- 26:28
hate
- 26:29
so it forces me to come in here like and
- 26:31
try to suppress certain [ __ ] even though
- 26:33
people are coming here to hear me talk
- 26:34
about certain [ __ ] but [ __ ] y'all man
- 26:37
that's how i feel i would like to talk
- 26:38
to uh fed you up
- 26:41
we need to talk to we need to i would
- 26:42
like to i would like to see what
- 26:44
i need to know i know i don't need to
- 26:46
talk to him i know exactly what happened
- 26:47
well you're an artist so you can you
- 26:49
know i know exactly what happened but
- 26:50
was that was it which
- 26:51
artistry thing or yes it was somebody
- 26:54
came in and told y'all
- 26:55
listen bump it up flu and then they
- 26:57
wanted me to make another album but no
- 27:00
no and that was me at a much lower level
- 27:03
sure what was happening with fetty
- 27:06
freddy started
- 27:08
dating a lot he was out a lot he was
- 27:10
traveling a lot
- 27:11
he's partying a lot he was spending a
- 27:13
lot i'm not counting nobody's money
- 27:16
but i'm looking at what someone is doing
- 27:18
with their time and
- 27:20
no he did what all of us do at that age
- 27:24
after some success we tricking off we
- 27:26
out of here we're not
- 27:27
the same amount of energy is not
- 27:29
exhausted or invested into our craft
- 27:32
without speaking to confetti or knowing
- 27:34
anybody involved with fetty that is
- 27:35
where i stand on fetty but i'm loyal to
- 27:37
fetty because of what he did and where
- 27:39
he did it from new jersey
- 27:40
absolutely patterson he killed man yeah
- 27:43
yeah it's just always interesting when
- 27:45
you think about it and like i said i
- 27:47
didn't even know he was putting out a
- 27:48
project
- 27:49
and was just talking about him not even
- 27:51
two days ago and i was like
- 27:52
he put out another album this year that
- 27:54
was pretty good no i know but i'm i'm
- 27:56
more so like he
- 27:57
because when he dropped his sound shook
- 28:00
the building
- 28:01
yeah and it's like you don't really and
- 28:03
it was
- 28:04
only two years man yeah not even
- 28:08
so it's just kind of like it just you
- 28:09
know as a music level you just start to
- 28:11
ask about yo what happened
- 28:12
i could be wrong but i think that at one
- 28:14
point he was maybe getting away from
- 28:16
some of the crew and producers that he
- 28:17
was working with at first
- 28:19
but i think that he's gone back i saw
- 28:20
people's name shout out to people's on
- 28:22
the new album and i'm not sure if
- 28:24
they've been working back together for a
- 28:25
long time or what
- 28:26
was there some internal [ __ ] between him
- 28:28
and there may have been yeah
- 28:30
i don't know the new album though okay
- 28:32
good yeah i heard they back like the
- 28:34
crew is kind of
- 28:35
i don't know to what extent but i heard
- 28:36
you you know back [ __ ] with big ones
- 28:38
and all of that so i would just be
- 28:39
curious if there was like some business
- 28:40
[ __ ] that happened maybe with the crew
- 28:43
or maybe with the label or the industry
- 28:45
or something because
- 28:46
he does still make good music where's
- 28:49
the disconnect
- 28:50
right you know what i'm saying i'm not
- 28:51
saying that he's going to have another
- 28:52
run like a trap queen
- 28:54
man a three to five million dollar
- 28:56
publishing check
- 28:57
after record three no
- 29:01
i'm not going to the studio no
- 29:04
don't send me a beat yeah i'm out of
- 29:07
here
- 29:08
i'm gone he didn't even do a lot of
- 29:10
features if i recall either
- 29:11
three million my year one the year and a
- 29:14
half ago i was on soundcloud
- 29:18
whatever yeah i mean i understood when
- 29:21
all the babies started popping i
- 29:23
understood
- 29:23
no doubt yeah but that's unfortunate
- 29:25
because it's you know
- 29:27
it was something really really good
- 29:29
there jersey we need another one they
- 29:31
took betty from us they took albie from
- 29:33
us god damn it jersey
- 29:36
not freddy fetty's still around so i
- 29:38
hope that he can find some footing in
- 29:40
i'm gonna definitely get into this album
- 29:41
this weekend though yeah sure yeah don't
- 29:43
matter
- 29:43
betty's not still on 300 is he i think
- 29:46
so
- 29:47
i could be highly doubted
- 29:51
damn bring back the days when we were
- 29:52
locked into the same label for five
- 29:54
projects
- 29:55
no no labels will drop you quick now
- 29:59
he is on 300 still yep and
- 30:04
300 rgf and this is why artists
- 30:07
want to shoot up labels allegedly
- 30:10
allegedly allegedly of course no fetty
- 30:13
can't get that again from 300 because
- 30:15
300 got too much going on and meg
- 30:18
there's a lot of other people getting
- 30:19
that attention now see so it don't
- 30:21
matter if fetty can make those same
- 30:23
exact records because they wouldn't get
- 30:24
the same exact attention
- 30:26
yeah that's what that's kind of what i
- 30:27
was getting at with i wonder if it's a
- 30:29
business thing
- 30:30
right on the label side it's slash
- 30:32
industry side
- 30:33
because he could i think that he's still
- 30:34
capable of making good music uh from
- 30:36
what i've heard from the two of them so
- 30:37
we put out this year
- 30:38
they might not be super smash hit
- 30:39
records but
- 30:41
there's it's good quality music we are
- 30:42
so east coast we spent 20 minutes on the
- 30:44
new fetty wap album
- 30:48
that era and how things have changed and
- 30:50
yeah much deeper conversation i know
- 30:51
slid right over travis scott
- 30:54
did travis scott drop something no no
- 30:59
joe's dick diddy don't want to say no
- 31:03
no no he didn't him and him and post
- 31:07
were quiet
- 31:07
oh okay you just wanted to tyler the
- 31:10
creator it's a few [ __ ] that was just
- 31:12
quiet
- 31:12
i mean you were such an [ __ ] 38
- 31:16
special frank ocean was quiet
- 31:31
a core fan base that is over a hundred
- 31:33
thousand every single time i go out
- 31:35
why am i going to change my sound well
- 31:38
that's because it's just hypothetical
- 31:39
that's where cody is that's wrong just a
- 31:41
hypothetical thing
- 31:42
taking it back to something i replied to
- 31:44
10 minutes ago so i'll repeat myself
- 31:46
just because you are the creator of a
- 31:49
sound it's not the point does not mean
- 31:50
that you are not responsible for
- 31:52
changing it also
- 31:54
you're missing my point i'm saying if
- 31:55
your core fan base just wants to hear
- 31:57
this
- 31:57
from you and i know i'm guaranteed this
- 32:00
amount of people every single time i go
- 32:01
out this amount of money every single
- 32:03
time i go out
- 32:04
the [ __ ] i'm changing [ __ ] for but
- 32:05
there's a hypothetical question i'm
- 32:06
asking all right great all right i like
- 32:08
it i like it
- 32:08
i like it there's plenty of artists that
- 32:10
have done uh
- 32:12
incremental adjustments where they're
- 32:15
not doing a whole set like how drake
- 32:17
changes or kanye changes like now and i
- 32:19
think has changed
- 32:20
edm album now i'm doing uh whatever uh
- 32:22
uh
- 32:23
the world music album like does there's
- 32:25
artists that have gradually just they've
- 32:28
stayed consistent and they've stayed
- 32:29
with their sound but you know
- 32:30
tweaked the way they chop the sample or
- 32:32
you know perform the vocal
- 32:34
where it's an evolution it doesn't feel
- 32:36
like you're stagnant doing the same
- 32:37
exact shot that's what makes kanye and
- 32:38
then one of the greatest because every
- 32:40
album
- 32:42
huge whole scale like this one's all
- 32:44
synthesizers this one is jesus
- 32:47
and then on top of that and then on top
- 32:50
of that what does success look like for
- 32:52
the other 95
- 32:53
of artists because i don't want us to do
- 32:56
this with
- 32:57
with kanye and sure drake well no i'm
- 32:59
saying
- 33:00
the rest of us yeah that are not on that
- 33:03
that in that rarefied air to another
- 33:06
planet up there
- 33:06
what does success look like today in a
- 33:10
pandemic
- 33:11
with touring dead like i don't i don't
- 33:13
know probably i don't know what i just
- 33:14
said you come out you do your consistent
- 33:16
100
- 33:16
000. that's that's very successful yeah
- 33:19
cudi has a core that is it's a large
- 33:21
core that sounds great if i'm
- 33:23
independent
- 33:24
if i'm on a label and the splits are a
- 33:25
little different what does that
- 33:27
really do for me yeah i'm asking and
- 33:29
even if you're independent like
- 33:33
supplemental [ __ ] independently
- 33:36
recording right this second and relied
- 33:38
on music to pay my bills there would be
- 33:40
four projects in a year
- 33:41
yeah even if they did a hundred thousand
- 33:43
each and you would have to have a fire
- 33:44
merge game or
- 33:45
if they did 40 000 a piece i still make
- 33:48
1500 a month from rage
- 33:50
if they did 40 000 a piece all of them
- 33:52
i'm just saying just to get by
- 33:53
through the year everybody don't have
- 33:55
the fire merch
- 33:56
everybody didn't have the fire tour game
- 33:58
some of you [ __ ] lying oh we can't
- 34:00
perform [ __ ] you wasn't performing
- 34:01
before
- 34:03
yeah it was quiet he wasn't i'm sick of
- 34:05
some of these [ __ ] man i'm just saying
- 34:07
it's a lot yeah it's a lot to account
- 34:09
for
- 34:10
out there 30 people in sobs that was
- 34:12
your new york show yeah
- 34:13
but that's my there's a separate
- 34:14
conversation about how the uh the mega
- 34:16
festivals were inflating a lot of
- 34:18
people's stewardship but that's a whole
- 34:19
deeper darker yes that's a deeper but
- 34:21
that's my other thing about
- 34:23
critiquing music during a pandemic
- 34:26
pandemic pandemic whatever you want to
- 34:27
call it it's like
- 34:28
i there's not one musician out there
- 34:31
that i want to lend my voice
- 34:34
to interrupting their flow right now
- 34:38
i just don't think it's the time for
- 34:40
that right yeah like even if
- 34:42
the [ __ ] so what you put out a bad
- 34:44
album hey
- 34:45
we was killing paul george for his play
- 34:46
in the bubble but i get it if you
- 34:48
depressed and you away from [ __ ]
- 34:51
everything we're going to talk about
- 34:54
that
- 34:55
you've got to talk about them now they
- 34:57
paid that man we're going to talk about
- 34:58
but what i'm saying is what is lisa why
- 35:00
doesn't cutty get a pass for being
- 35:01
depressed and not changing his sound
- 35:04
the [ __ ] all joins herself but not cuddy
- 35:06
and i don't even like that point of him
- 35:08
saying uh
- 35:08
the creator doesn't get any type of pass
- 35:10
for that there's so
- 35:12
do you feel that way about all early
- 35:14
hip-hop artists for not changing their
- 35:15
sound even though they created the
- 35:17
blueprint for what we use now
- 35:18
well no you interrupted me but i was
- 35:20
about to to say
- 35:22
no i'm not judging these [ __ ] for
- 35:24
putting out the mediocre albums during
- 35:26
the pandemic when who knows where your
- 35:28
engineer is how you getting beats who
- 35:30
knows how involved your label is how
- 35:32
much money they giving you
- 35:33
they putting all the onus and
- 35:35
responsibility on the artist we got to
- 35:37
pay for everything now off the top you
- 35:39
get
- 35:39
10 grand let's listen it's [ __ ] up out
- 35:41
there it's real [ __ ]
- 35:42
[ __ ] up idea so it puts me in a an odd
- 35:46
spot to come on here and tell you what i
- 35:47
think of music when truth be told
- 35:49
i'm not listening to music that's how i
- 35:53
am handling you listen to old music no
- 35:56
joe listen you listen to the music from
- 35:57
the people
- 35:58
that make good music no listen it's my
- 36:00
job to hear
- 36:01
to hear things it's my job to hear
- 36:03
things but in terms of
- 36:04
me listening to an album
- 36:09
i gotta find the time in the house i to
- 36:11
find the time to get to the show i like
- 36:12
yeah i got to find the time to put the
- 36:14
phone down like i just got to find the
- 36:16
time now i don't know how the world got
- 36:18
to that but that's where i am me who
- 36:20
loves music like nothing else in this
- 36:22
world
- 36:22
right i don't seem to have time to
- 36:23
listen to it we made this point not too
- 36:25
long ago that
- 36:26
now with [ __ ] being like it is we run
- 36:28
into what's familiar
- 36:29
like i don't have time to sort out and
- 36:31
figure out if you good or not in music
- 36:32
yeah as a new art i don't i'm with you
- 36:34
on that i'm going to my people rory
- 36:35
coming in and playing jasmine sullivan
- 36:37
sleeper guess what i'm buying it hey i
- 36:38
like her
- 36:39
i like her i know her i enjoy her that's
- 36:41
it these new [ __ ] i don't know
- 36:43
quando rondo canceling shows i ain't
- 36:45
heard a song i don't know
- 36:47
nothing that's what rory is for in my
- 36:49
life but he grew up so now he don't tell
- 36:50
me nothing either
- 36:52
i have no idea what that's my best see
- 36:55
see no i understand what you mean but
- 36:57
it's awesome it's rough man
- 36:58
it comes it's rough you just don't trust
- 37:00
a lot of these new acts i think that's
- 37:01
what it is i don't trust the music
- 37:03
business cause i see all y'all
- 37:05
shifting away from music mm-hmm yeah the
- 37:08
business
- 37:08
yeah not the artist unfortunately we'd
- 37:11
be the last ones to know some [ __ ] but
- 37:12
they moving and shaking behind the
- 37:14
scenes december right before christmas
- 37:16
don't let them tell you the industry
- 37:17
locked down [ __ ] [ __ ] moving and i
- 37:18
know it
- 37:19
can't tell you guys can't tell you guys
- 37:22
but [ __ ] is i've been saying it for
- 37:24
you they're lining up
- 37:26
they lining up chests they moving around
- 37:28
they're setting up for the next five
- 37:30
years i don't know how that looks but
- 37:31
it don't look the greatest for artists
- 37:34
yeah
- 37:36
that's sad but it's the truth it's the
- 37:39
truth
- 37:39
no not with the label system yeah and
- 37:42
they want me to sit on the [ __ ]
- 37:43
shitty chatty house these aspiring
- 37:45
musicians that
- 37:46
that want to get somewhere and love the
- 37:47
craft i empathize because i remember
- 37:49
being hey joe what should i do what's it
- 37:50
take a [ __ ] i don't know i hate this
- 37:52
[ __ ]
- 37:54
i can't tell you what i'm gonna look
- 37:55
like handing off some jaded information
- 37:57
i wouldn't know how to function in this
- 37:59
[ __ ] today this [ __ ] is a
- 38:00
mess it is it is but the answer is
- 38:04
work and keep working and figure do
- 38:06
everything try everything
- 38:08
own your masters if you can't all of
- 38:11
this [ __ ] is a [ __ ]
- 38:12
someone gives you a good a good
- 38:13
situation all this [ __ ] is a one and a
- 38:16
500 chance of hitting a home run 500
- 38:18
feet out of the park
- 38:19
own your master's you could be the guy
- 38:21
that gets a base head every single time
- 38:22
and
- 38:22
and that's okay too own your masters
- 38:26
pray that they become valuable one day
- 38:30
because that's the part the industry
- 38:31
don't tell you all these things oh own
- 38:32
your master's on your man some of you
- 38:33
[ __ ] masters ain't worth nothing
- 38:35
have a blast don't make it have a blast
- 38:37
with your ownership and i would say
- 38:38
don't pray they
- 38:39
uh become worth something make them
- 38:41
worth something
- 38:42
yeah make them worth something and then
- 38:46
sell it and hopefully it affects the
- 38:47
market share somehow
- 38:51
there you go well that's the other thing
- 38:55
with these
- 38:56
[ __ ] lying misleading words i got a
- 38:58
long list of [ __ ] in 2021
- 39:00
that need to stop if i hear another one
- 39:03
of you [ __ ] tell me you got a
- 39:05
partnership
- 39:08
nobody wants to say it i've waited a
- 39:10
year and a half for somebody to question
- 39:12
it [ __ ] don't be having parties
- 39:14
no they ain't got no [ __ ] partnership
- 39:17
they're signed
- 39:18
now they've been having partnerships i
- 39:20
know you
- 39:22
partnered on the deal partner in the
- 39:25
payment
- 39:25
yeah yeah yeah since you're a partner
- 39:28
you want a partner in something i'm the
- 39:29
prophet
- 39:30
uh all right what else came out 38
- 39:32
special 38 specs
- 39:34
38 specs changed the game again again
- 39:37
especially in green lantern uh hosted
- 39:39
and you know blended the freestyles
- 39:41
together
- 39:42
with the name of the uh are you calling
- 39:44
this epo album uh
- 39:46
it's like a mixture of he has a album
- 39:48
album coming out i think
- 39:49
next week interstate 38 which is
- 39:52
phenomenal yeah 38 special
- 39:54
i [ __ ] with i feel connected to you
- 39:56
because of the instrumentals that you
- 39:58
picked on this album i'll be honest with
- 40:00
you
- 40:00
you picked 10 of my favorite i haven't
- 40:03
many of my favorite
- 40:04
beats of all time and then rhymed like
- 40:07
murderous drug dealer talk on it like
- 40:09
there's no way for me to not
- 40:10
like this set up to like this is this is
- 40:13
great all i'm saying is
- 40:15
wow now we can sell 16s and 24s over our
- 40:19
favorite beats
- 40:20
is that what this is that was it you're
- 40:23
doing the roaring thing now
- 40:25
this is not though that's a joke yeah
- 40:29
but shout out to 38 absolutely
- 40:32
absolutely
- 40:32
[ __ ] with him he's had a great year uh
- 40:34
for a production god damn it 38
- 40:36
special yeah his album that's coming out
- 40:38
i think it's like i said next week or
- 40:39
the week after
- 40:40
is phenomenal this is kind of just like
- 40:42
the the warm up for it yeah he's one of
- 40:44
the uh he's one of the rappers that i
- 40:46
i listen to a lot and i'm like he's
- 40:48
people are gonna start paying
- 40:49
him some attention real real soon yeah
- 40:51
no they already are he's building
- 40:53
but i mean like on a different level
- 40:54
yeah you know what i mean like he's
- 40:55
gonna start becoming a
- 40:56
yo how do you build now
- 41:00
teach me tell me about all this [ __ ]
- 41:02
that has just gotten lost in the current
- 41:06
how do you build now consistency man
- 41:08
consistency is always
- 41:09
is always key stand consistent all right
- 41:11
well give me what else is key
- 41:12
um being being good for starters
- 41:15
especially
- 41:16
comes from our error so he's got like a
- 41:18
little bit of a cheat code like he comes
- 41:20
from doing good business that's a huge
- 41:23
your name and all the [ __ ] [ __ ] can't
- 41:24
do
- 41:27
business [ __ ]
- 41:30
are successful are doing it i'll give
- 41:33
you one get [ __ ] lucky
- 41:35
that's a little bit of luck well part of
- 41:37
being good is being lucky
- 41:38
yeah it's a little part of being good
- 41:40
part of being good is being
- 41:41
able to uh execute on the luck
- 41:44
unfortunately it comes your way
- 41:45
take take the opportunity to know what
- 41:47
to do with this i'm just saying pure
- 41:48
luck is involved in people oh no no but
- 41:50
if you're if the luck happens and you're
- 41:52
not hey i just told ian that
- 41:55
but right before i got here i said hey
- 41:58
for one person to make 20 million
- 42:02
dollars
- 42:03
a lot has to go right absolutely i
- 42:05
thought that broke good business and i'm
- 42:06
gonna think that when i get 20 million
- 42:08
dollars good business
- 42:09
hey a lot is going right for that for
- 42:11
that to occur
- 42:12
good business [ __ ] ton good business
- 42:14
good business consistency
- 42:15
talent consistency hard work and luck
- 42:18
and a little bit of luck
- 42:19
but being able to execute when that luck
- 42:20
comes through and also and also working
- 42:22
just working on whatever it is that
- 42:24
you're trying to do like always try to
- 42:25
get better at what you're doing you know
- 42:26
what i mean like
- 42:27
you can be a dope rapper but you know
- 42:29
start to work on your hooks more
- 42:31
all right so give it to me right now i'm
- 42:32
a new artist
- 42:34
let's walk through it god damn it [ __ ]
- 42:35
it let's do it i'm a brand new artist i
- 42:37
want the room
- 42:38
know the climate i was going on in the
- 42:39
world i went to the studio i made
- 42:41
something that
- 42:42
me and every [ __ ] in my hood feels like
- 42:44
it's a go uh-huh
- 42:45
i haven't played this for i haven't
- 42:46
played this for somebody and they didn't
- 42:48
tell me
- 42:49
it's a go well i'm breathing i'm reading
- 42:51
though i'm dreaming i'm reading the
- 42:52
faces
- 42:53
i'm reading i'm just saying everybody
- 42:55
heard this and they got the nod in the
- 42:57
head i was looking on the low i invited
- 42:58
some girls over
- 42:59
caught with the bible you know what [ __ ]
- 43:01
[ __ ] do when you're testing the record
- 43:02
i'll do that right
- 43:03
you got to be careful though because a
- 43:04
lot of people do get inflated uh
- 43:07
sense of fire by playing it for people
- 43:10
that know them personally that know them
- 43:12
personally but in a way that is there
- 43:14
there's an art to playing [ __ ] for
- 43:15
people and getting an honest response
- 43:16
out of them
- 43:17
yeah sneaking it in like you said you
- 43:20
have a playlist
- 43:22
on the app about playing your music for
- 43:25
people
- 43:26
yeah and how yeah you may want a certain
- 43:28
response from a certain person but
- 43:30
they're not even
- 43:31
into that type of genre right so you're
- 43:32
just going to get the oh no it's cool it
- 43:34
just ain't for me type thing
- 43:35
you have to know exactly who you're what
- 43:38
type of audience you want this
- 43:39
music to be for and that's the type of
- 43:41
people that you need an opinion from now
- 43:43
you want people to identify their
- 43:44
audience yes
- 43:47
it is tough but listen okay i got this
- 43:49
record i did what i had to do let people
- 43:50
hear it i think it's fire
- 43:52
today what do i do what do i do
- 43:55
with this record it's mixed it's
- 43:56
mastered i don't know nobody
- 43:58
at radio i don't have a relationship at
- 44:00
the streamers soundcloud
- 44:02
uh no everything's in my whole career
- 44:05
making this record you want me to just
- 44:06
put it down clowns
- 44:07
get back in the studio and do another
- 44:09
one make another one and don't put it on
- 44:10
just something
- 44:11
on every single thing that exists i can
- 44:13
see why [ __ ] don't listen to [ __ ]
- 44:14
with experience
- 44:15
no i would never do that well you know
- 44:17
you have to keep holding that record
- 44:18
that's fire in the world ain't gonna
- 44:20
happen until i get another one no that's
- 44:21
oh and that's that's that and that's
- 44:22
talking to the person's talent now well
- 44:25
i'm talented so i mean that's i'm okay
- 44:26
so if you got another one
- 44:28
if you're talented oh no no no no all
- 44:30
right no no i'm talking about joe budden
- 44:31
but no i'm the new artist guy now
- 44:33
i ain't so fast to relinquish my record
- 44:36
people gotta hear you people got it for
- 44:38
free absolutely no
- 44:39
oh you [ __ ] would fail put a few
- 44:41
[ __ ] with your families
- 44:43
write a song you have to put it on free
- 44:45
and sale and everything
- 44:47
you've got to put it you have to do
- 44:48
everything
- 44:56
oh [ __ ] you guys first of all it doesn't
- 44:58
cost you money to put it on
- 45:00
somewhere where you will gain money like
- 45:02
it's a different it's not like when you
- 45:04
were selling mixtapes
- 45:05
no just give it to them for free in time
- 45:06
put it out you can put it on
- 45:08
any streaming services stop holding this
- 45:12
music like
- 45:12
y'all talking about it put it out listen
- 45:14
to us
- 45:15
no listen if you nice put the music out
- 45:18
to the world listen
- 45:18
to us put the music out the world to let
- 45:20
you know if you're good joey what you
- 45:22
kind of just went over when i said
- 45:23
identifying your audience yeah i think
- 45:24
that's a first step because how you
- 45:26
market
- 45:27
things especially as a new artist you
- 45:29
should start with a smaller
- 45:30
group to go after that's how you build
- 45:33
we use the word build
- 45:34
you start with the small group i think
- 45:35
this is for this specific type of person
- 45:38
so let me identify that type of person
- 45:40
and i can market this a little bit
- 45:42
better because i know what they like and
- 45:43
how they
- 45:44
take music in is it is visuals is this a
- 45:46
record that needs a visual to put out
- 45:48
spoken something marketing that's very
- 45:50
difficult to do for the average human
- 45:51
being by the way
- 45:52
especially especially there's so many
- 45:55
records that i get
- 45:56
to mix from people and they're like yo i
- 45:57
want to sound like
- 45:59
drake it's like you know that you sound
- 46:01
like
- 46:02
you've like but but that but it doesn't
- 46:06
take a moment
- 46:06
you sound like travis scott and that's
- 46:08
not the same you know whatever when joe
- 46:10
was saying that
- 46:10
in in this hypothetical scenario that
- 46:12
everybody in his hood liked it you have
- 46:14
to
- 46:15
for the people you're playing it for you
- 46:16
have to figure out that type of person
- 46:21
i don't know if this is a machine or a
- 46:22
person this is the one and only man
- 46:26
i didn't i didn't get to any answering
- 46:28
service yet man this is brook steezy man
- 46:31
buck stallion this is joe budden and
- 46:32
friends from the joe budden podcast in
- 46:34
the middle of a very important
- 46:35
conversation how are you doing
- 46:37
i'm doing great man you're doing great
- 46:40
hey
- 46:43
in 2007 i came
- 46:46
to you because you wrote a song
- 46:49
that a lot of people thought was a
- 46:52
really great song right
- 46:54
that is correct that is true i attempted
- 46:57
to purchase that song from you right
- 47:03
yes if you or at least try to open the
- 47:05
conversation to do so right
- 47:08
me that's correct me needing a single at
- 47:10
the moment thinking i had the right
- 47:11
amount of momentum to amplify
- 47:13
what was a really really really good
- 47:15
record you
- 47:16
as an aspiring act with this record that
- 47:21
you thought
- 47:21
was a smack a lot of people thought was
- 47:24
a smash
- 47:25
smash smash opted to
- 47:28
hold on to the record right
- 47:33
yeah that's how it kind of ended
- 47:36
it was a few 10 intangibles there we
- 47:39
don't care about that i'm only speaking
- 47:40
to
- 47:42
why as a new artist with this record
- 47:46
that a lot of people thought was a smash
- 47:48
i'm trying to talk to i asked them all
- 47:50
and the fellas here hey if i'm a brand
- 47:51
new artist and i got a record that we
- 47:53
all think is a smash what's the first
- 47:54
thing i should do they said i should put
- 47:55
it on soundcloud or the streamers
- 47:57
i playing devil's advocate said well if
- 47:59
i'm a new act with with this one smash
- 48:01
i would never do that because i wouldn't
- 48:03
want to let my record go and that got me
- 48:05
to thinking about you
- 48:06
but in the long run you never put that
- 48:09
record out did you
- 48:11
i never put it out that's what happens
- 48:13
that's why you can't hold on to
- 48:14
especially
- 48:15
and that's and that is what happens yeah
- 48:17
there's a lot of [ __ ] music out i
- 48:19
hate when [ __ ] have a record
- 48:20
and everybody loves it no no i don't
- 48:22
really know what i want to do put the
- 48:24
[ __ ] music out man and you know
- 48:26
you know he's not putting it out too
- 48:27
early without well it's too
- 48:29
there's many ways of looking at that um
- 48:32
sometimes when you get a a golden egg is
- 48:34
a golden egg because it's
- 48:36
made of gold and sometimes you just
- 48:38
don't
- 48:39
get another golden egg so if you just
- 48:41
like if we want to reference joe right
- 48:44
and we look at a record such as pump it
- 48:47
up
- 48:47
like we're being creative and putting
- 48:49
our music sometimes the reality of it is
- 48:52
is that sometimes you just cannot
- 48:55
create another golden egg no matter how
- 48:58
creative you might
- 48:59
think you are sometimes it's just it
- 49:02
doesn't work
- 49:02
that way so like how pumped up
- 49:06
no mind state i know even if it's wrong
- 49:09
yeah he said you're right but that's
- 49:11
what anything if you're a [ __ ] little
- 49:13
league baseball player you can't get a
- 49:14
hit you're not on the [ __ ] team
- 49:15
anymore
- 49:16
yeah and you know what's funny i said
- 49:17
the buck back then you ain't got it you
- 49:19
ain't got it go try something else i
- 49:20
said to buck back then about this record
- 49:22
i said yo you're gonna hold on to this
- 49:25
record
- 49:26
and the sound of music is gonna change
- 49:28
and it's not going to be the same record
- 49:30
anymore yeah
- 49:31
and then that happened the sound changed
- 49:32
but i only bring it up buck to tell you
- 49:34
i think the sound is right back yeah
- 49:37
that sound from that record with tick
- 49:40
tock and all this other dance creation
- 49:42
[ __ ] that's how this [ __ ] works hey can
- 49:43
i play some of that record
- 49:46
you ain't doing that whatever the [ __ ]
- 49:48
are you going to do
- 49:50
what the [ __ ] are you going to do number
- 49:53
collecting dust in your house
- 49:54
all right listen i don't even know where
- 49:55
that right yeah
- 50:06
yeah i am going to play some of that
- 50:08
record you have it yeah
- 50:12
copyrighted in two minutes copyrighted
- 50:14
where
- 50:15
it's recorded it's kind of send it to
- 50:17
yourself in the mail it's copyrighted
- 50:19
remember when they said that i am going
- 50:20
to play a little bit of this record
- 50:22
before you play it buck is my man i love
- 50:24
him if it's trash can i say it's trash
- 50:26
it ain't trash i just know what it is
- 50:28
but wait wait timeout of course you
- 50:29
could say it's tragically
- 50:30
but listen remember this was in oh six
- 50:33
years old seven yeah i know do you have
- 50:35
nah no i know exactly what your sound
- 50:37
was no six and over
- 50:41
all right objectivity absolutely
- 50:45
i love it there's something about that
- 50:49
girl right there
- 51:06
this could work now hold up
- 51:09
but forget about buck for a minute just
- 51:11
listen i don't know how to listen to it
- 51:13
the fans probably don't though you
- 51:15
turned me
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on the damn girl you turned me off
- 51:19
you're not trying to turn me
- 51:55
miller is hilarious no i get it it
- 51:58
sounds good
- 51:59
it's not good i don't know if that would
- 52:00
have worked for you though
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a caricature of yourself
- 52:23
joe had a record with young chris i
- 52:25
believe frequency produced that was kind
- 52:27
of in that
- 52:28
lane that was a mid-2000s
- 52:32
trying to get a single if you hear what
- 52:34
buck said
- 52:35
that is the fear that most artists live
- 52:38
with just not that five percent
- 52:40
that no absolutely i'm talking about
- 52:41
that as a producer like i've held onto
- 52:43
beats forever like oh no this one
- 52:44
gotta have ghost face on it's gotta have
- 52:46
nods on it the [ __ ]
- 52:48
that's the dumbest [ __ ] in the [ __ ]
- 52:50
world you put that [ __ ] out you have to
- 52:51
put the [ __ ] music
- 52:52
like you said joe the sound changes the
- 52:54
time changes the moment changes
- 52:55
this artist now who who recorded in
- 52:58
january
- 52:59
and want to put out their album in
- 53:00
december and they have to go back and
- 53:01
change that whole
- 53:03
album that they have recorded in jen
- 53:04
cause it's already dated already it's
- 53:06
not the year is not even over yeah so
- 53:07
you have to put the music you cannot sit
- 53:09
on music and just think that
- 53:10
i'm gonna wait nah you gonna wait and
- 53:12
then that moment is gone and now nobody
- 53:14
wanna hear that sound now [ __ ] gonna
- 53:15
be looking at you like [ __ ] that just
- 53:16
came home
- 53:17
again the beautiful thing about art and
- 53:18
being a creator is you can keep doing it
- 53:20
i feel for artists right now i feel like
- 53:23
so many artists have sat on their music
- 53:25
in 2020 because they didn't want to put
- 53:26
it out with uh the fear of
- 53:29
the uncertainty of how it would be
- 53:30
upside down now this is what i'm talking
- 53:31
about now this i kind of disagree with
- 53:33
i might be with them on this you know
- 53:36
established artists or
- 53:38
either going to hold your album or over
- 53:40
release music i would roll with oh
- 53:42
releasing that
- 53:43
finish i was saying i feel for them
- 53:44
because they may have
- 53:46
just
- 53:52
it's frustrating i know i'm a kid i know
- 53:55
it's fun and i'm in a bad mood today
- 53:57
um i feel for them because if they
- 53:59
created something in january of 2020
- 54:01
thinking they were going to put it out
- 54:02
in june of 2020
- 54:04
they've been listening to the same
- 54:05
record over and over and it may be an
- 54:06
amazing record but to them
- 54:08
it feels dated and they won't put it out
- 54:09
in 2021 when it is time for them to
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release music
- 54:12
that's right so a lot so a lot of
- 54:13
artists i think are going to be sitting
- 54:14
on really good music
- 54:15
and they'll be sick of it so they won't
- 54:17
uh won't want to put it up that happens
- 54:18
to artists a lot where they they have
- 54:20
something that
- 54:20
may even be more than six months old it
- 54:22
might be six years old
- 54:24
and they're like nah we can't do that
- 54:25
this is old it's like no one else is not
- 54:27
old to nobody else
- 54:28
right as long as it doesn't have like a
- 54:29
uh uh timely
- 54:31
kitschy chase in the middle of the super
- 54:33
auto two vocal uh you know in 2009 or
- 54:36
you're not talking about
- 54:38
you know what i mean there's a certain
- 54:38
[ __ ] that super dates a record yeah
- 54:41
or it's super topical yeah if you told
- 54:43
me punchlines that are like wow
- 54:45
while we're in our music geeky bag i
- 54:48
love it nerdy
- 54:49
i'm not mad at it on saturday i'm not
- 54:51
mad at it i love nerd music
- 54:52
while we're in this music geeky bag i
- 54:54
have a few very short brief
- 54:56
announcements for anyone that needs to
- 54:58
hear them
- 55:00
uh damn just that fast
- 55:04
i thought this could be announcement of
- 55:05
us making a diss track back for the
- 55:07
redditors
- 55:08
i don't even know if i want to give
- 55:09
light to that
- 55:11
even though he killed us damn what was
- 55:14
y'all just talking about i had two
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really good
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dating dated music yeah putting out
- 55:17
music being scared to put it out
- 55:20
because it feels dated oh got it buck
- 55:23
stallion
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hilariousness very quick why you should
- 55:27
give me that record
- 55:27
two very quick short announcements for
- 55:30
anyone who needs to hear this
- 55:32
meg
- 55:47
announcement number one any was the
- 55:49
first stallion to get turned on
- 55:52
announcement number one to anybody that
- 55:54
needs to hear this
- 55:58
contracts are changing what
- 56:02
if you don't know it you're somewhere
- 56:06
you shouldn't be
- 56:09
hey i only know because i've seen a few
- 56:15
and i can read them so i'm only pointing
- 56:18
this out
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because kanye said whatever he said
- 56:22
about the contracts
- 56:24
and contracts be [ __ ] all you [ __ ]
- 56:26
up and none of us have ever seen a
- 56:28
legible contract
- 56:29
i'm here to tell you in the next few
- 56:32
years
- 56:33
you should see shorter form legible
- 56:37
contracts
- 56:38
hit a round of applause for me what do
- 56:39
you think that's happening it is
- 56:41
happening oh
- 56:43
it's happening it's starting to happen
- 56:45
this is the very beginning very
- 56:46
beginning
- 56:48
very beginning normalize that normalize
- 56:50
that that's one
- 56:51
right and two really quick these seem
- 56:54
like very obvious announcements
- 56:56
but for whoever needs to hear it clout
- 56:59
is not currency repeat it with me
- 57:04
cloud is not currency one more time for
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the road
- 57:08
cloud is not currency
- 57:12
i see listen when they say clout because
- 57:14
y'all fool me with the slang [ __ ] y'all
- 57:16
be doing like the gen zers and the kids
- 57:18
y'all say cloud and we think of cloud
- 57:19
chase and we just think of [ __ ]
- 57:20
seeking attention and trying to get cool
- 57:22
but wait no
- 57:23
it's the reinvention of the look
- 57:26
this is the re-emergence of doing
- 57:28
something off the strength
- 57:30
and for the look and for some of you
- 57:32
[ __ ]
- 57:33
affiliations and relationships are very
- 57:36
important but you all need to separate
- 57:38
when to go that route and when to go
- 57:40
this route and it's really pissing me
- 57:42
off you and rs on that chatty house some
- 57:44
of you
- 57:46
i'm glad i'm going to happen anymore
- 57:47
because i feel like those people you
- 57:48
[ __ ] are
- 57:49
[ __ ] liars preying on the hopes and
- 57:51
dreams of aspiring artists you [ __ ]
- 57:54
deadbeats
- 57:56
one day i'm going to walk in there and
- 57:58
question you all about what the [ __ ]
- 58:00
you've a an art
- 58:01
i'm bumping into a and rs who don't know
- 58:04
what a and r
- 58:04
stands for i'm bumping into anr's
- 58:08
who from morning tonight are telling me
- 58:11
about what [ __ ] are you in the office
- 58:13
or not
- 58:14
are you at work did craig cowman call
- 58:20
are you on salary [ __ ]
- 58:23
is your contract about up what's the
- 58:26
last guy you brought in here
- 58:27
like tell the truth if a and r and now
- 58:30
and i'm off on the tangent from uh cloud
- 58:32
being currency but if and are
- 58:33
now means hey just go to twitter and
- 58:36
instagram and check who has the highest
- 58:38
followers and then try to offer them
- 58:39
some money
- 58:40
you [ __ ] are trash by pseudo
- 58:44
that's it well it should be you have to
- 58:46
do a little bit of that
- 58:48
like as someone who looks for
- 58:50
up-and-coming artists one of them [ __ ]
- 58:51
was in there
- 58:52
one of them [ __ ] was in there and ran
- 58:54
into the [ __ ] he scammed
- 58:56
oh well that's a whole different country
- 58:58
shut up but i will say
- 58:59
if there's someone who's looking for
- 59:00
up-and-coming talent you do want to see
- 59:02
that they have some
- 59:03
uh work ethic meaning they are building
- 59:07
some [ __ ] on their own
- 59:08
i'm not the only fans they are you bet
- 59:11
that this spot talent develop it
- 59:13
yeah nurture it i see what you sometimes
- 59:15
give them the budget
- 59:17
popping up giving the good beats listen
- 59:18
to the album yeah yeah i'll give him the
- 59:20
beats
- 59:21
give him the beats now this isn't a
- 59:23
direct one
- 59:24
chatty house a r thing but it is
- 59:26
connected to it can i read someone's bio
- 59:28
from from the chatty house
- 59:29
sure okay read this directly
- 59:33
supermodel i do it all high fashion
- 59:35
runway music
- 59:36
swimsuit commercial sports fitness print
- 59:39
i also cast direct music videos parties
- 59:42
such as chris brown tyga drake sway lee
- 59:45
and more
- 59:45
that's facts that's a uh oh no she's
- 59:47
like a little bit yeah
- 59:48
what did any of that mean that's a
- 59:50
madonna you gotta read through that
- 59:51
she's just a little swiss army knife
- 59:53
that's what she no she's a madonna
- 59:54
that's facts right there
- 59:56
she runs a brothel yeah she's a swiss
- 59:57
army knife okay from switzerland right
- 1:00:00
now not rory in women's business who
- 1:00:02
said that was a woman
- 1:00:04
you said she oh well i don't know she
- 1:00:06
identifies that
- 1:00:07
that's true that is true she could be
- 1:00:09
fluid good play
- 1:00:10
speaking of getting in women's business
- 1:00:13
it wasn't me
- 1:00:14
and i'm not getting into it because i
- 1:00:16
went into it before and they tore me
- 1:00:18
apart and i'm not doing it again
- 1:00:20
but i do see what's going on between
- 1:00:22
blank and blank
- 1:00:24
oh if there's the potential of something
- 1:00:26
going on between blink and blink
- 1:00:28
thanks for clearing that out i see it
- 1:00:30
from behind the scenes
- 1:00:32
that's it okay all right who's blank and
- 1:00:35
blank
- 1:00:36
mega nick
- 1:00:39
something going on as far as not
- 1:00:41
physically nothing moving on
- 1:00:42
i'm too early i'm too late i'm reading
- 1:00:44
too much it's too deep i'm in a woman's
- 1:00:46
business
- 1:00:46
and i only nicki tear me up especially
- 1:00:48
while she's pregnant uh
- 1:00:49
best of luck pregnant she had a healthy
- 1:00:51
baby especially when she just had a
- 1:00:53
healthy baby uh congrats to the queen
- 1:00:54
yeah i'm not getting into that
- 1:00:56
i ain't gonna be [ __ ] start pointing
- 1:00:57
[ __ ] out again
- 1:01:00
okay no no no no no and not that it's
- 1:01:03
happening
- 1:01:04
because i don't know can't confirm [ __ ]
- 1:01:07
but you think you're thinking that's all
- 1:01:10
[ __ ] looks away yeah [ __ ] looks away
- 1:01:13
that's all and i'm out of women's
- 1:01:15
business now no problem
- 1:01:17
all right maul did you uh did you a r
- 1:01:20
the 3 30 in houston uh benny wrecker
- 1:01:23
uh no i didn't a r but you know he sent
- 1:01:25
it to me when he on chatty house would
- 1:01:27
you say are you an artist
- 1:01:28
no okay yeah he sent it to me a few
- 1:01:30
weeks just came out just what
- 1:01:31
that's like yesterday it's on the
- 1:01:33
conflicted uh soundtrack he getting busy
- 1:01:35
yeah he's talking about the whole
- 1:01:37
incident in houston i hate when artists
- 1:01:39
that i like are on soundtracks
- 1:01:41
why it's their it's their uh their movie
- 1:01:44
oh that's different
- 1:01:45
yeah that's different well to answer
- 1:01:47
your question as to uh
- 1:01:49
why because i know how it is when you
- 1:01:50
just get giving a song to the soundtrack
- 1:01:52
oh i mean for sure but i feel like some
- 1:01:55
now
- 1:01:56
are we gonna listen talk afterwards i
- 1:01:58
think that's good
- 1:01:59
yo house full of war art i pulled up the
- 1:02:03
walmart
- 1:02:04
[ __ ] y'all forget it man forget it
- 1:02:05
forget it
- 1:02:07
yo oh
- 1:02:11
oh yo get the yo
- 1:02:14
some of you know me is benny bullets was
- 1:02:17
in me
- 1:02:18
it was a semi it chill hey yo
- 1:02:26
oh this was the flow
- 1:02:30
i didn't realize what he thought i ain't
- 1:02:32
peeping
- 1:02:47
a lookout at walmart ain't no pool of
- 1:02:50
that man i'm not letting him do that
- 1:02:52
i'm not letting him do that i'm not
- 1:02:53
letting people do that make a mistake
- 1:02:54
yeah didn't have a mistake
- 1:02:56
fam i'm here to get tank tops what the
- 1:02:59
[ __ ] do i need to look out for
- 1:03:15
only one mistake he didn't have a
- 1:03:16
lookout no nick stay your ass home and
- 1:03:18
send you a man and go get the [ __ ]
- 1:03:20
tank tops
- 1:03:22
love you being off the hook but can't
- 1:03:23
take the hood out i love you billy love
- 1:03:24
you look out at walmart is hilarious i
- 1:03:26
just
- 1:03:27
that's talent having to look out at
- 1:03:29
walmart no
- 1:03:30
coming up with that only one mistake
- 1:03:34
that i made
- 1:03:36
let's see what he did
- 1:04:07
hey pause this pause this
- 1:04:12
this guy's good yeah he's pretty good at
- 1:04:14
rapping this guy is good
- 1:04:16
you can ride well why the hell did you
- 1:04:18
have a quarter million of jewelry going
- 1:04:20
to walmart that's what he's saying
- 1:04:21
that's what i'm saying yeah i'm only
- 1:04:23
saying it now that he's saying that i
- 1:04:24
would have never said that if he didn't
- 1:04:25
say it
- 1:04:27
take me out the hood can't take the hood
- 1:04:29
out that's it ben yeah it's a mistake
- 1:04:31
a lot of rappers i wore my jury to the
- 1:04:35
spade game so
- 1:04:36
yeah gotta go ahead you learn [ __ ]
- 1:04:43
oh man it's dope record man yeah 3 30 i
- 1:04:46
lifted my chain it didn't even hit my
- 1:04:48
head that [ __ ] was all net
- 1:04:51
[ __ ] took that [ __ ] off at least
- 1:04:55
hey when you take your [ __ ] off smooth
- 1:04:56
when [ __ ] got the toaster
- 1:04:58
that means you're nervous like man let
- 1:05:00
me i don't even want them to think
- 1:05:03
he took that [ __ ] and ran i waited a
- 1:05:05
couple seconds and ran after him
- 1:05:06
five seconds later [ __ ] what you
- 1:05:08
running for
- 1:05:11
he's going yeah yeah he's going he's out
- 1:05:13
even if you guys look at the hammer
- 1:05:14
still
- 1:05:16
back loud if you don't go back and bid
- 1:05:19
your hand
- 1:05:20
[ __ ] you had four books before i showed
- 1:05:22
up
- 1:05:24
you'll get that chain back
- 1:05:28
oh yo the look on my face when i finally
- 1:05:30
got to the right dude in the projects to
- 1:05:32
tell me what i was like that's all that
- 1:05:33
[ __ ] it's gone my [ __ ]
- 1:05:39
didn't move fast enough shout out to
- 1:05:40
that guy that breaks it down like real
- 1:05:42
simple nice shout out
- 1:05:43
oh hit that guy an important figure
- 1:05:47
but wait you thought i was going to
- 1:05:48
shout out the robbery yeah
- 1:05:50
but wait you know what's [ __ ] up about
- 1:05:51
getting robbed
- 1:05:54
even that sentence outside of the
- 1:05:55
obvious anybody can get robbed for sure
- 1:05:58
anybody get to drop on them
- 1:05:59
the streets of the streets that's fine
- 1:06:00
but because there's no
- 1:06:02
once you get over that once your pride
- 1:06:04
is not affected by that you're cool
- 1:06:05
right the pride in the issue comes in
- 1:06:09
when years later you were just at the
- 1:06:11
spot at a party with mad bad [ __ ] and
- 1:06:14
just happened to be a few harlem [ __ ]
- 1:06:16
that
- 1:06:16
know about what happened and they bring
- 1:06:17
it up yo you ever found out about money
- 1:06:20
yeah you never got up with money you did
- 1:06:23
that [ __ ]
- 1:06:24
no no no i'm actually trying to forget
- 1:06:25
about it i'm trying to relive that
- 1:06:29
now i got [ __ ] in front of this house
- 1:06:30
right now that's funny move down south
- 1:06:32
oh oh okay oh damn let me tell my [ __ ]
- 1:06:40
oh that is some funny [ __ ] that's so
- 1:06:43
funny i know only i got raw come on
- 1:06:53
that's what i'm saying they gotta break
- 1:06:55
that [ __ ]
- 1:06:56
no you have to grab and punch me out of
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