The Bud Den

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what is this

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exactly they would never arrive a car in

a school zone

nah they wouldn't do that not over there

they're not disrespecting the guard like

that

they would never disrespect those kids

education they wouldn't do that

school ain't even in session yes it is

from the zoomies before the mics went on

we were talking about cars and [ __ ] i

said tomorrow i

i can't wait till he gets a car and part

of why i said that

i got my george jefferson out and i know

how lebron feel again

again when was the first time you felt

like phil brawny

took a challenge to miami that's when

you felt him

i'll play it for you okay i'll play for

you i'll let you know

huh rory what roy was 13 when i said it

something like that

it's young lebron but it's still room

for darko and carmelo i

i did i gave joe was giving him that

sauce taco you know darko to rap darker

i'd be potting look at this thing forgot

about you

damn oh come on darko

don't go miller check that dude rory's

dargo he's ak-47

if you'd ever call me darko milicek when

he was called sean bradley we gonna

fight

so i wanted this i wanted more to get a

car because i feel like

you know maul is is guarded and

sheltered and [ __ ]

so i feel like certain moves will help

me clown his personality more like

it don't matter what car he get still

jokes coming oh

i'm killing that's what [ __ ] says i am

killing

him you have to get like a uh x8x he's

gonna get something

he getting something where the gas pedal

raises like he wanted um

you need the gas pedal up high like you

got one light

emblem when you open the door you feel

me he got

weird requests like that you want the

seat to go up higher than it normally

goes

i think that's standard now but it's

okay i stand it in every car

i mean i've seen you inquiring about uh

when tom brady posted his old escalade

he was like ooh that's the

swag i need and meeks

you want to meet

remember oh i don't know what you would

have told them huh

nothing i don't want nobody's dreams and

nightmares on repeat

y'all are stupid what do you think meek

used to ride around and you guessed it

this

time you take over tell somebody i don't

know tell us shorty what you get in the

car like i don't know what you said you

know you started growing no you used to

own this when you're getting yourself no

you stole this

you guessed it more was saying that

that is who rory wants a used car from

jay mills

[Laughter]

shout out to middleton shout [ __ ] out

i like j

move my [ __ ] who i hit trying to buy

their used car

um one of them giant [ __ ]

that was dionne dionne was on defense

but boy that car was beautiful to me

anyway maul said he'll buy a car

when he gets a safe place to store it

because he's worried it's reasonable

people will take it from him if he's

parking on the street

that's what i heard yeah i'm not saying

what you said i'm saying what i heard

okay that's what you heard okay you

don't want to

say he needs he needs a garage why do

people need garages

because if you have a nice park

somewhere parking is terrible

can't find a park you got to keep

circling the block

when it snows like it just didn't get

snowed in i see what he did he took the

win off the front

i heard it like because when you get

parked it's terrible

when you get parked it's terrible when

they knock you out terrible right

[ __ ] drive off with your [ __ ] yeah

money

when you get parked this is terrible it

was parallel parked

yeah that's hard when [ __ ] lay you out

in front of the building

in front of your building look at me now

you got ptsd every time you

walk out your own house [ __ ] knock you

out in front of your buildings

that's what sucks and who would be

knocking you out in front of your

builder like a neighbor

someone that had to drop or someone that

conveniently saw you park your x7

in front of your crib or nonchalantly

look at him parking like a safe yeah let

me go outside and knock him he thought

he thought it was a school zone so it's

okay

that was the craziest excuse i ever yeah

that's how it goes i know it's bad

parking over there because after a

certain time

teachers leave it's over no parking

here parks battery in there let's see if

it gets charged up now

you didn't like that a lot you heard

them you heard it clown it

the artwork was was a charged phone i

liked it

i'm here clown it they got to deal with

me i went to detroit

they got to deal with me now came back

with some energy i went out there

come on man went out there did the lot

did the knowledge

give us the uh the what they put you on

to

chill chill got some jets pizza

let's get to it come on let's get

but help with the [ __ ] move the table

get that side

yeah let's get it on [ __ ] [ __ ] that

that's how you don't think it's old you

move the table it's a smoothie

no fighting nothing down here no i mean

let me get back help just vitamins

let me get back healthy on these dudes

all right hold up man

let me pay some pay some homage

pay some homage right quick let's see if

this thing is on come on

mic check my check one two one two no

need for an introduction y'all know who

it is and y'all know what time it is

high vibrations high frequencies only

let me get the eq's right on my guy

i'm just sitting here with a few

familiar faces some of y'all know what

time it is

okay

so i never gave

he was getting

at durango used to be the b he spazz on

this intro

hey when that happens in rap uh

yeah when it happens around

see marketing to colleges here for sure

alpha phi alpha kiwi

shut outside

better believe me

what a way to start a [ __ ] album

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no no no no no no no no no

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microphone check one two what is this

the jbp

boys bike to business episode 420 high

vibrations

high frequencies only no need for intro

you all should know what time it is

shout out first and last time listeners

gang is back rory is here maul is here

parks is here erab is here savannah's

here

alex the greatest here i want to shout

out to the app that

powers us empowers us sponsors us

tolerates us puts up with us none other

than the greatest app in the world cash

app gentlemen how's everybody doing

how you feeling what's going on good

talk to me how was your weekend what's

happening

uh weekend was a little uh eventful but

everything's cool eventful weekend yeah

what happened

uh my my apartment got flooded but

lost lost karma because you used to

flood the streets

yes

[Laughter]

yeah we showed you a first tip rory

it wasn't it wasn't large it wasn't on

the large professor tour i'll tell you

that

um so you should got flooded you think

yeah yeah [ __ ] got flooded um

lost a bunch of my sneakers and some

clothes it's all good i'm not tripping

man

i saved the holy grails though i had to

get out the shower i heard

the alarm was going off i didn't know

just felt something about the holy

grails was like

happening yeah grabbed it the important

sneakers important pieces you got to

grab sure oh i thought you meant the

whole album

oh no not the album from the samsung

phone

[ __ ] niece was done no i grabbed my

passport i grabbed the most important

sneakers and made sure they was in

in plastic bags that's all you need to

travel that's it shop when you land man

that's why i wasn't tripping still able

to put a fit together with some rares on

the wheels

you know these ones these are one of the

fews that made it man you know what i'm

saying

the fuse that made it now is the fray on

the nike check from the flood or that

was that was predestined

no this is predestined right here um

these are the black history month so i

believe these are the bloods of my

ancestors so watch them out

okay i'll go over here

watch your mouth say joe look how the

white shirt is still black

i know it's march but don't get it

twisted it's woman's month too

it's always women's money of course

every month we love the world it's

always blackish don't deflect from

the blacks yeah yeah they're still

trying to take it over black women yeah

i love black lives

matter women but black foreign big one

up right now then

all of them smart i like it it's ready

right here

i hate azalea bank's love list we're

back to another list of hers

i hate her but another list did you see

your list

it's a list of wait did i finish intro

on this [ __ ] y'all was good no no no no

no

let's stay right here what's the love

list yeah we talked about them already

don't worry about you listening

and shut up and who's who's

spelling the words on our subtitles on

youtube enough now

who is it it's you it's snug knows

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i'm so confused you talking about like

closed captions on the clip yes the

closed captions that

is that's not a person doing it yes who

is it

drew all right got it we're going to

talk about i'll call you later

yeah look somebody called him teacher

wait a minute azalea put out a love list

and

i'm not on it and i don't like that

that's a little crazy azalea banks

uh was told by her cord cutter healer

uh holistic person that she spends so

much time hating why doesn't she make a

list of people that she loves

so she did that and i agree with that

but sometimes writing things out really

helps

really just helps things it does um

so she wrote down a list of all the

people that she loves

and i hate who she loves

all this podcast does is step on my

opinion

thank you

i hate it even the names that i love i'm

mad that they're mixed in with some of

these names that i hate

so if you guys take what do you hate if

you well who cares if you guys just

think the people

make it hateless if you guys just take

two seconds to observe this podcast the

list

i observed it larry you came away with

an opinion which is your name is not

there so you hate it too

i say i feel some type of way i

understand now you guys take a second to

observe the list and you guys tell me

how you guys feel about it

i hate it i hated it name number four

donald trump

all right cool wait wait watch your

mouth buddy

well she kind of put them all there i

mean which is cool until i get to hell

it's cool until i get to ella fitzgerald

and i'm like wait wait a minute

there's some hypocrisy dude these names

happen

love is everywhere she loves everybody

when i went further i was like shakira

now i

dig it i understand what other names i

had a problem with on here

what i did come away with is she likes

very colorful personalities

like look at the people the uh billy

idol cam

t-pain there's a lot of really colorful

personalities on here

yeah look candace owens omarosa

see i don't i don't mind that but

reading the shots vladimir putin's

a b is the [ __ ] greatest man all

right this list is cool

yo going just that that list from

vladimir and then right below it amber

rose

love is everywhere i don't see how you'd

follow up no the range look at the range

all right yeah vladimir and amber rose

have the same haircut so y'all don't

think it's a problem when somebody could

fit everybody they love

on one sheet of paper

we'll also definitely don't worry about

it don't worry about it move it right

along man versus

right everybody love on one shield

mine won't be shorter than that

on a sheet of paper on a sticky pad it

would have been a sticky pad for me

i could write that on the palm of my

hand that's not true

well not in the love this appears to be

people that uh she admires

i don't know about love yeah she don't

know all these people

armor um omarosa and sister soldier

being in the same column

absolutely it's raised look at the range

versatile jocelyn hernandez come on man

she's entertaining dennis rodman i got

it all right i didn't want to start

there but just just

a quick little hi she's on my love list

oh i love azalea great great person

she's on mines too via mail

[Laughter]

won't be direct communication between

her and snail mail

will be pen pals hey

yeah i'm not yet learned my lesson there

all right

the moment we'll do it introduce the

next topic

okay sorry are we going to go ahead

yeah okay all right the moment that rory

waited his whole life for

that's true and didn't even catch it

live

totally forgot about it no i remembered

it i was in a place that didn't have

wi-fi at the time or a good 5g

but i did go back and watch it

d'angelo's versus kind of

deangelo with friends d'angelo versus

desk

d'angelo versus live streams

here's the thing if you're going

to change your entire structure of your

platform

for an artist it you shouldn't rush it

with someone that waits 14 years to put

out an album

this person takes some time to put

things together this entire thing felt

rushed to completely change

how versus goes and then rush it i think

was the bad move i don't care who the

artist was period

this felt rushed didn't feel together

felt like y'all scrambled

the friends thing didn't even feel

friends-ish there was a lot of friends

so awkward we were the friends i don't

know

big fans you don't know if you're a

friend big fan i'm about i'm about

growing versus where it's not just

one song versus one song there's other

ways to do it i get all that but

don't just rush it when you're changing

how this

platform has worked and thrived so far

you didn't need to rush it this was not

entertaining you didn't need to rush it

i was not entertained i understand that

maybe d'angelo you had him for that week

and when you have d'angelo for a week

that's the only week you're gonna have

them maybe for 10 years

still don't think it was necessary to do

yeah i'm with you on that um it was

great when we found out d'angelo was

doing the verses only because we haven't

seen d'angelo or heard from him in

a few years oh quite a long time

actually um but then as it got closer

and the friends wasn't announced we

started

some thinking and it was like okay what

exactly is happening

um and we spoke to

mr larry jackson and he told us and he

called him a snow leopard i believe

was still leopard yeah uh unicorn about

two three times he called him a unicorn

and told us to buckle up and prepare for

the ride of our lives he did not say

buckle up

i think he didn't say buckle up he said

buckle up he said i can't tell you

what's gonna happen cause i was buckled

up

yeah i know it didn't come from nowhere

yeah he was like buckle up so we buckled

up and

when d'angelo came out he let us know

exactly

who the friends and d'angelo versus

friends were

and he let us know that we're his

friends they're the best recappers

so i mean

this to me was uh this just wasn't

entertaining at all

no this was very bad in my opinion i

mean it's d'angelo so yes we heard some

classic songs that we love

of course but i think they set the bar

with the whole

apollo theater and the name being on the

marquee

leading up to it we thought that this

was going to be epic one of the

most entertaining verses that we've seen

and this was very underwhelming as far

as i'm concerned in my humble opinion

because listen i've

i don't have verses to do so i can't

[ __ ] on somebody that has versus but

this was not entertaining in comparison

to

most of the other verses i cut the [ __ ]

off have we seen um

it's just this the versus thing you have

to

it no honestly it's it's tricky because

this is a professional podcaster right

here no listen it's tricky because you

have to be somebody

you can have records but with these acts

like that we don't see or hear from in

years it's dangerous

because you just don't know what to

expect so somebody like d'angelo

legend absolutely one of the greatest r

b artist songwriters big facts

but when they don't

show their face or pop out for years

it's like it's the

the whole nostalgic feel yeah we haven't

seen them so it's exciting to see

d'angelo

but this is just underwhelming man this

wasn't this wasn't entertaining at all i

didn't enjoy this

it just felt like it was uh people were

getting calls

probably the day of hey can you pull up

to the apollo it felt like that

yeah like we didn't know who was showing

up because they didn't know who was

showing up

so i just it just this wasn't it and i i

you know i don't know how they're going

to bounce back from this but

i think the versus thing might be

tapering off a little bit i think it

might be on

the on decline at this point i think so

i think it was dope

during the quarantine when we all inside

and it was a small thing but i think

once it turns

into this big production it takes a

little

luster out of it yeah i think i'm not

about to say one

one dud off everything that they've done

means it's tapering this wasn't i can't

judge someone off

one one bad situation it defines

where they're going or what they've done

this wasn't the only doctor

but i think that uh there may be some

truth to the fact that it's unless they

adapt it uh

pretty significantly because people just

aren't at home in the same way how many

more duds do you guys think they have

that's what i was that's what i was

about to ask but i just said this wasn't

the only dud

well i'm asking which ones i know

another dud and that's where my dudless

stops

jagged edge and 112 was a dud oh that's

third that's the third one

uh i think this was see that's the third

it's all right i got three dubs

i mean uh is that the way we're using

yeah i got three

three duds what's your third i'm not

saying

okay uh well yeah is right off

how how many have they done that's a

pretty good percentage

that is established i'll i'll show you

when it comes wait i don't even know

that

it wasn't working just keep going the

manny fresh versus scotch start was a

bad matchup

it wasn't a dude it was still good

though i won't call fab and kiss a dude

oh it was great that was entertaining

babyface and teddy riley was great both

times i won't say the one

it's not important but it'll come up and

i'll point to the screen

um oh well then i'll just say it go

point

let's get some edge back to this podcast

that wasn't the one for me

oh that doesn't matter i hated alicia

keys and john legend

i i i and i didn't want to say that

because of my respect for both of them

of course

and their families mm-hmm like they're

they're in that listen let's be clear we

respect

anybody that's called for versus you're

a legend that's yeah we don't even have

to

that one wasn't for me but this [ __ ]

with d'angelo

say it well while you're trying to get

the words together we are not defining

this amazing platform off

three alleged duts this [ __ ] is great i

don't think it's gonna taper off just

because

one bad situation happened i just think

it's gonna taper off because i think

that the world is gonna

start to open up a little bit more and

people are probably not gonna be at home

the way that we were

during the height of versus right and

not only that i don't think that

i don't think who else would you call

that

you know what i'm saying the list is

starting to get short yeah because a lot

of a lot of the people that we love

they're not doing this

well i think this can end up being

really cool once i think we're close to

outside

somewhat opening and i think this could

be a cool thing that they could live

stream

and people could actually go to this is

a cool you you can do the same

[ __ ] over you could do i'd go to swizz

in tim

versus at an arena all right i'm gonna

rap at firing my opinions off because i

don't want us to spend too much time

this is not a versus cast can you call

larryback um

i'm not going to call larry right this

second i'm going to continue with the

larry say i screenshotted that [ __ ] when

you said it

i just want to just want to say what he

said that i just thought that was funny

all right i'll i'll try to rapid fire my

attention

right after his prayer and i'm leading

with love too i'm gonna always always

love

i'm gonna lean on on azalea bank swag

right now and

just list some things that i

all right it opened with uh scratch

opened up and while i

love scratching all that he does has

done and represents in hip-hop

boy bad time for scratch to open up for

me

i loved his opening set but i understand

why r b lover maybe not so much

because he was he was doing some r b

stuff too but he was it was more of a

hip hop

djing set uh

i think that's generous okay

uh a hip hop dj said is when hip hop

records are played

he literally scratched every verse and

every hook of every song that came on

which is could be awesome somewhere else

for r b act to uh be about to grace the

stage

i understand it's deangelo i know it's

hip-hop ties

it was a lot for me i did a lot of

muting and unmuting

during the opening set but again i had

guests over watching

it was vibey in my living room i had the

leds on oh yeah

it wasn't time for scratchy scratch

all these records cool d'angelo comes

out

oh before d'angelo comes out the whole

leaning on us filming and taping in the

apollo theater

i mean when patty and gladys did that

at the theater in philly the way that

they were positioned on the stage

we it was the backdrop they put the

backdrop behind the stage where it

normally goes this was reverse and it

was weird for me

the carpet was distracting it was a lot

going on

i feel you you could barely tell that

it's at the apollo yeah that

that didn't do it any justice if you add

the apollo and you promoting that then

find a different way

for that to come across some people may

say i'm nitpicking let me move on

d'angelo comes out and the very first

record lost me a little bit

lost me a little bit i don't think

that's the first record if he has an

opponent

across from him definitely not it was an

untitled new song

oh well that would explain it yeah that

that wouldn't happen if there were an

opponent

across now now not first some of the

people i spoke to behind the scenes

who shall remain anonymous larry did

their best no this wasn't larry i spoke

to a bunch of other people

that did their best to say to me that

maxwell may have been afraid of d'angelo

and for a minute i leaned into that i

don't like that

i don't like that but that's let me just

finish my point before i forget

i understand the competitive nature of

our business

and i know that fear is the first

assumption we run to

when there is a cancellation i totally

get that

after watching no one can convince me

that maxwell was afraid

to face deangelo once he saw deangelo's

list

i just would have a hard time believing

that personally i don't knock anybody

else's thoughts on it

no i can't see him i have a hard time

maxwell's rolling with that one maxwell

has

i'm definitely not rolling with that

maxwell is not afraid of any of these

harvey acts that are out here

except for one who we will not name

because of their

past and their history we don't talk

about him and if this was the list

well everybody's getting him that don't

count yeah to me that would be the only

person that maxwell wouldn't want to but

after listening

after looking at the the list and

granted i don't know if this list was

the same list

i don't think this would have been his

20 had he been i don't think

i don't even i don't think left and

right is coming in his 20.

madam ref came out and i wanted to hear

rockwell

i did they didn't do it cool

cool but i mean that would have been

nice if it's d'angelo and friends

uh rory made the point why would they do

that song for me because when you put

the end friends there it opens things up

for you to be able to play with

some different things uh y'all know how

i feel about her so

no need for me to talk about this oh

yeah i thought she did but this

like rory i'm not gonna cancel versus

because of three duds nor do i think

that

they only ascended because of the state

of the country and the pandemic

i don't believe that do i think that

projections may

lower if everybody's outside in the

country opens back up

certainly but i'm never going to doubt

the power of hip-hop to

centralize millions of people in one

place without all of these

marketing and promotion dollars well no

but like rory said it's only only

because this was birth

because we couldn't see these people

live people couldn't perform live

so it was birth from that and as things

start opening up and we're able to

now get back in these venues and see our

favorite acts again

naturally this will fade out like no i

wouldn't i'm not going to sit at home on

my phone when i can go catch the same

but that's not but that's not that's not

the inevitable

evolution of when you say naturally like

i was birthed because my mom made my dad

a cake one night

but that what has to happen after that

don't necessarily have to be

what you're saying like yeah maybe they

can start doing these live

and people but listen i don't want to

repeat it you can hear things twice

yeah i don't want to go back and forth

with you more because i

i i do have a similar take but for

different reasons

and i don't indict verses in mine when

when when you get with corporate and

i've taken y'all down this path enough

so i'll

spare you but i'm putting a lot of this

on corporate yeah from my own

eyes not asking anybody else to agree

with you assume the same way i have seen

things in social media that lead me to

believe for months now

that there might be something going on

behind the curtain

i'm not mad at that i can i can

certainly see uh

swizz and tim getting a hold of d'angelo

and d'angelo saying yo i'm down

they get maxwell maxwell backs out for

whatever reason we don't know

and apple going so

we have we have d'angelo i don't care

about your structure here

i know the amount of views it gets and

how much money we make every time you

guys do anything with verses and you

have d'angelo

have him go out there and sing and just

can't cause i can see apple

[Music]

because they both they had two parties

already in agreeance to do it no

it was a it was a they were healthy yeah

there's a difference

is way easier than getting a hold of

d'angelo and getting him to agree to do

anything if ashanti come in there with

with colbit if they didn't do their due

diligence and anybody gets sick

then that we no it's not the same ad no

it's not the same but i don't think

apple was telling somebody i don't care

if you don't have anybody to

battle danger that sounds like exactly

what yeah i think i don't say that to me

i don't know

if they'd word it that way but they

would say hey we know how much money we

make you have d'angelo agreeance who

knows if he'll agree to this in two

months when we finally get maxwell to

agree or

another opponent i believe yeah you have

d'angelo we have the apollo booked

already

y'all are going out there no i believe

apple will care more about

their brand than and how they look than

anything they're not gonna just roll out

something

i don't i also don't think apple thought

this was gonna be bad like i don't think

they were like oh it's gonna be shitty

but we'll be fine i think they were

banking everyone was confident in this i

think they were banking on people just

showing up to have a mutual love and

respect and a certain type of

relationship with d'angelo i think they

were banking on people showing up

and just doing a record or two i think

that's what they were leaning on and as

it got closer to the day

people started saying oh you know i'm

pulling out i can't do it i can't show

up i'm out here i can't fly in in new

york

whatever like i think that's what

happened i see apple execs going you

have d'angelo the apollo and the versus

community that comes out every single

time you guys go live

go do it i don't even want us to spend

too much time on this because it wasn't

the biggest of cultural moments

like but it could have been it could

have because we haven't seen d'angelo in

the

could have been if it were uh proper

verses right that's all i'm saying oh i

totally agree that's all i'm saying we

haven't seen d'angelo in years

he's one of our favorite artists classic

rex

so we were looking forward to this you

know what i mean like we work i hate to

get into my uh

my convo that we was talking about off

air man but

even as deangelo was up there with the

funny hat on

with the the buffalo looking cold he was

dressed like with the shingles

uh with the funny chelsea boots or

whatever's going on up there right

yeah and some people on the internet

were clowning them

but that's d'angelo yeah i don't know

why they climbed that's him

men out there d'angelo

pause was a tough out

he was tough to deal with at some point

they showed the

how does it feel video and [ __ ] on

on the apple screen and all i could

think was

man i remember that error [ __ ] i see i

remembered

this like uh excited

she's gotta chill out right yeah you

gotta chill out how do you react when

that happens that happens a lot why

don't women do that right right next to

their significant other

like why did they do that it's like they

don't even care they wanna think about

us enough you wanna test to see exactly

how

jealous they like women like to see

their man get a little jealous i think

women like that

i got man crushes though so i'll be

excuse me i've been fanning out with her

oh okay yeah he does look great

let a zac efron movie come on

babe do you think he'll take his shirt

off again

yo rory cut it out man don't act like

you've never uh

bonded with your girl over a dude i've

never bonded with them

oh all right you're cool you're cool

you're cool man you know what's wrong

with you crushes

what's wrong no i don't have a man crush

next point we're gonna change

okay

all right but you don't see how that

like the opinions or

like they weigh in the room it's like

the titanic i like it though i like it

and also i'm shocked that you joe

sitting here like you have not bonded

with a woman over a dude that y'all both

liked that was an entertainer

we've never liked the same dude that's

why you're different that's why i was

relating to

what parks is uh saying because like

i've watched the movie uh

with a young lady and she went wild over

vin diesel and i'm like

when i went to see i am legend and will

smith worked out for a little bit

whoever that was that was with me they

went a little

too wild i wasn't into it like yeah

i wasn't like relax yourself yeah like

those be the guys i told y'all i dated

somebody who was real big on dwyane wade

back in the day like it beat some of

those

i've never said oh he was so well the

rock is my

will smith is not your type okay fair

enough i've said that years ago on this

part

yeah but you're trying to make me be gay

with you no and i'm not

because zac efron anyway

[Applause]

maybe

oh that's a handsome man no beard zac

efron not without the beard he looks

like

like molester like the beast this is

jesse from full house

he played the serial killer who was the

serial killer ted bundy who was the

attractive serial killer

yeah he played ted bundy man how was

that not your mcm

yeah what man that's just man i can't

get out of here

you got another high chair i do

what you want me to do i'll be cool if i

just find out how y'all will start your

verse

i don't even need the bars no more on

this part i'm done forcing people to do

things they don't want to do but if

y'all tell me how it starts i'll

i'll write it on my own

you just need to use the first four bar

for four words

i rap on this podcast so you know what

thomas all right check check this out

man

your man is back at it who's that your

man is back at it my man our man friend

of the show

sigh hi our guy shah hi guys i was glad

to see sahar was act

feeling better though because i had

brought him up

a couple episodes ago i was like you

know accidentally yeah so it was good to

see him

in better spirits a little bandaged up

but

he's good glad he's active yeah he had

uh

he had some interesting dialogue on uh

no jumper with adam22

choice words if you will adam 22 parks

and rory let him in the culture

that was us

come on buddy it's great over here

they're friendly

they're fried

but yeah some choice of words some

choice words

words of choice i'll get right to it man

chosen words

that's right are you calling that's

right

i was calling to get right to the bottom

of it the culture is calling him

i was calling right to get to the bottom

of it

i don't have signs now you got it

i could get it yo this is joe button

from the joe budden podcast may i speak

to adam 22 please

hello joe budden how are you doing i am

well

i am well how are you

excellent just about to do uh interview

aaron carter it's probably

similar to what you're on no

i would never interview aaron carter no

it's aaron carter

interviews are [ __ ] hysterical we're

going to put a pin in that really yes

see these white boys related adam

we're about to do a segment on on you

interviewing sahai

so i wanted to call you to figure out

why

why do you think science said all that

to you about me

do you think he went in because he just

said real quick that he would no

you can't you can't divide black kings

no i don't think he went in i thought he

was fine but i'm asking you because you

was there like

i mean you think you think i'm the one

to just call out fresh out there i mean

what you think i mean you're a

non-participant at this point right so

it can't be that scary so then why do

you media people ask

active rappers about retired rappers

because i saw this question you gotta

hey do you think joe's a worthy uh

well yeah i've seen it i think it

yeah no i uh you know i just wanted to

get some follow-up thoughts on him i

noticed that you know you guys had that

little back and forth and then

yeah he's uh you guys have speak spoken

about him very flatteringly

since then he's a good guy i was just

trying to figure out where the energy

was at it's also weird that you guys had

that conversation like pre-verses

also aaron carter is right here and i

feel like he's probably going to

interrupt this conversation but

so um listen you have fun

you go ahead i just lost half my

audience with that announcement even

all right enjoy your day man have a good

interview man hey much love joe

thanks all right so i have this clip

here

let's see let's see here we go

but even just the idea of you and joe

budden i wouldn't have i would come out

but no just to be honest like joe button

i i don't want to do

no beats i need to look you

in the face on smack stage something

like that tell them to sit up

so i've had a half a ticket yeah you

know what i'm saying so i got a half a

ticket but do you consider him an elite

level

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off the stage like oh damn bro i was

still going

yeah well it might be out of practice

too it's been a few years

[Laughter]

it's just different when he's on though

yesterday hey this is like

15 years old

more is different you know i get it

it's different you know what i'm saying

so i'm saying listen he's in shape

though

he's still in shape that's what i'm

saying no no that's what he's saying

like

no i'm not in shape but they wouldn't

play like that with him

with him [ __ ] me oh they didn't oh

oh my god oh my i was praying i didn't

need mine

oh man

you got down on your knees

oh come on listen this is all i'm saying

and i'm so glad that this this occurred

because i don't even get my mojo until

the rapper says my name

right but i can't do nothing with this

man what i'm gonna do with this

eye i'm retired get back in shape pin

rusty now come on give me a rocky four

more walked off the

the battle stage with hollow i'm in no

position

you guys don't stop booing yo

say what you said about sahara off mike

when it came to this topic what did i

say say it again don't worry about it

tell me what i said

what'd i say oh we're going to talk

about it in a minute tell me

well the post he made oh you know i just

thought it was

good tonight yeah not yet yeah so i'm in

no predicament to do this and i'm not

going to bore

podcast listeners or try to re-hype old

joe budden fans like music is coming

we're not doing this yeah it's just

interesting when you hear it

come up and it just gives me i get

goosebumps when i hear it

because you from the coaches that's what

the coach is based on is battling

i get goosebumps because i'm not used to

it is that what this was

are you saying uh was that was this your

reply decided to pull that up fast

rory didn't have an opinion until now

all right no i i was gonna

i was gonna ask you before he pulled

that up do you think psy said that

because he knows you're retired

you think he'd have extra sauce a little

toot on on his voice i don't think sai

would say a word to me if i was active

i think he would i think he would he

wouldn't because rappers have

and rappers that don't rap as good as

saha have

like come at you when you were in your

prime we've had that talk though before

it ain't just about that no it's not

it's not but i

i think saha is from the same claw for

you from i don't think he'll he'll run

from anybody

when it comes to just pinning and i

think going in the booth i think sahaja

doesn't sideways

i think he's one of the sickest man

you're not never gonna hear me say a bad

word about uh

size pen but that that's what makes it

exciting for me yeah what i will promise

you though sai

if the day ever comes where i decided to

get the dust off the open

you got a 97 and a half coming your way

gonna dig you up somewhere we're here

but uh all jokes inside we're glad to

sigh as well for sure yeah

for sure his first interview back he

right at my neck it's up again

i would get up again well to be fair he

was asked

he wasn't bringing you up he your name

was brought up to him and he just

respected yeah but he responded like it

was right back up

but i think i think that i think dope

lyricists and dope emcees

do that he's from that class yeah when

dope mc's are mentioned and then it's

like

y'all say he from that club shut up yes

i think he is

y'all stealing can't tell me how y'all

birds start shut up i

[Laughter]

glad he's well uh what else is going on

oh [ __ ] yeah come on more good [ __ ] off

yeah so in the interview he had

mentioned that yeah and so in the

interview

say it as it pertains to my greatness

how you feel about ian following sahara

being the first like

ops yeah that's kind of crazy

i thought you was going to hit adam with

the i don't care what size said why you

said it

was so comfortable saying it to you

that mean that meme traveled around the

globe

17 times saha says i'm sitting on one of

the greatest albums ever

recorded in rap music history and i'm

looking for a label to partner with to

help me put it out the proper way

let me know if you are interested please

he didn't put it please there but it

sounds like begging for mercy

that is a sick post read the captions

through the caption together since my

journey started in music i have always

considered

i've always been considered one of the

best rappers in the world

but a lot of times where i'm from

atlanta georgia or who i've been signed

to in the past

hinders me from getting the opportunity

i deserve oh he's snitching i'm done

hold on hold on no no no no no stop stop

telling the state stop for a second

let's break down this first sentence

a lot of the times where i'm from

atlanta georgia

one of the most thriving hip-hop

communities in the world the black

hollywood i believe is what they call it

where everyone's moved to or where i've

been signed some of the biggest black

companies there

kindest label in the world

arsenio was there you should be there

too buddy

sorry then following i don't complain or

throw my partners under the bus even

though i just complained

it through my partner's under the bus i

just tried to work through it but now

that i am a free agent that's in

quotations so i don't know if that means

he's actually a free agent or just wants

to be a free agent

i feel like i'm at a crossroads uh do i

still even want to do this due to the

lack of support i get from the people

around me

since my recent incident i have had time

to reflect contemplative retiring for

rap rubber

that's that's your line though oh

brother and just being a supporter just

do it

no you contemplated rage he was gonna

retire before

uh and just being a songwriter with

overwhelming support from the fans makes

me feel that people would still like to

hear

my music so i'm writing this letter to

the music industry

if you're interested in one of the best

hip hop rap musicians in the world

please feel free to reach out to me yo a

label hitting you waiting to go down to

the fyi

you wanna

i have three albums ready to go with

features from travis scott kanye west

big sean two chainz lizzo

pink sweats mozzie jack hollow tie

dollar court date and more

that's a real pitch this feels like an

email blast that the label sends out

loud about the features quiet about the

clearances

[Laughter]

it's only it's only crazy to me because

in the interview with adam 22

he was proud of how he had one of the

best and the biggest

you know people in his corner with con

oh see and that's why i need to battle

side cause he think i wouldn't have

nothing to say about him and now you got

something to say about no i've been had

things to say about i have a book full

of

everybody has a page in it things to say

about this person yeah

if they have the conversation your burn

budget just go through the roller decks

like what do i have to say about science

it's like it's like your love page it's

so ironic that pump it up was the mean

girls

exactly fire my second smash

what was the first smash that wasn't the

first no

okay pump it up you ever heard that one

that was the second spot enough of you

guys okay let me interpret

let me listen yeah speak for my artists

listen you guys how do you

new listeners old listeners women and

men

everyone let me do my best to use my

hip-hop expertise

that i've been educated on for the last

20 years per se to break this down for

you guys

sometimes hip-hop slang could be

difficult to understand

yes it can be and this is all logic

basically

this is all logic based what i'm saying

to y'all yeah

sometimes if you just step out of your

own shell yes and put yourself in

someone else's shoes

yes you understand how things

manifest case in point ever been having

a little

tension a little back and forth with

your significant other but it was when

like company was over your man was there

the fight was escalating but your man

didn't know

but your man just was still glued to the

screen at some point you said to

yourself

damn man we really gotta have this talk

me and my girl whenever my

man leaves maybe you even went to your

man and was like yo man

[ __ ] turned up over here like do me come

back tomorrow man let me just handle the

situation real quick right

very normal [ __ ] imagine

kanye just read 70 texts from kevin

it's not going the greatest [ __ ] walk

out into the wyoming yard

[ __ ] all in the pool yeah in the pool

[Laughter]

[Music]

hey where's your back hey you said it

was in the guest house

you shot it hey

kim is about to get your publishing in

the divorce get out of here while you

still can

go go save yourself get you a situation

bro this one is over

all i'm saying is i understand

yo sahi go to empire man go make some

real money

go to empire have a blast man come sign

to me

that's crazy i'll put your [ __ ] out

y'all are [ __ ] kidding i put your

[ __ ]

out all over the boulevard

you impress some cds no i'm joking

because it's so much fun to joke but

i love you it's all jokes please always

and we need a new album from true email

it to me

yeah just to listen yeah send it over i

love those features

it was a good list shut up it was

which one his fyi list look you ain't

got a word to say since uzi put

his song out saying everybody's stealing

his sauce he said it that's the chorus

i know you [ __ ] in my studio i'm

trying to steal my thoughts

oh you [ __ ] lost i want the divorce

that was the hook

i said i hope maul is hearing this i

just said this nobody's stealing sausage

made a video and said that

nobody's still inside all right all

right with my phone i've just been in

detroit favoring things

hey cause you know we owe so we like out

of touch now when the new

new [ __ ] drops you don't even know ymw

mellie coming home

but didn't he

did he well you don't even know

did he win that appeal you don't even

know he on his way home

i thought he confessed [ __ ]

you don't even know melly on his way

home [ __ ] oh man i thought he confessed

there with my uzi clip oh how did i miss

the uzi clip i can't find it there i'm

gonna find that song

boys don't even know the song y'all

don't even open a new uzi yeah i know

dudes ain't got no song man

travis not out travis ain't got no song

i know that he working

working oh no he did the uh the bossy

ring

i'm bossy i'm the one that's that's the

track that was something

wrong that was the wrong thing that's

right

on the track tracks

rappers announce we know that's why we

listening

yeah i'm so sorry man this nigga's gonna

jump me one day man

i'm sorry that's why i leave my house

you can't jump me in my house

[ __ ] uh all right good luck decide what

else we got what else we doing

what else is happening what else is

important out there we didn't talk about

the uh

ghost face in rayquan uh versus oh

talk about it what do you think go space

is going to win that

battle i think they'll win together

they have albums together i don't like

several i don't like it after the

d'angelo thing i think it's just gonna

be a great concert

of them rapping the songs they do

together plus solo stuff i don't really

see this being in the verses

especially it's not a angela thing it's

not a shout out to ghost and ray

it'll be a bunch of great two of our

favorite mc's i would have preferred to

showcasing their talents

would i prefer to see ghost and ray

verse another duo that's

heavily collaborated wherever you want

to put it yeah that would be great

cool i don't know bob d maybe we'll

obviously p's not here but

oh mob deep well i mean solo i know

they're in a group but

you can still do it yeah you're playing

the records that's like when

jack 112 when when 12 played the record

half of 112. different reasons of course

rest in peace prodigy

yeah you don't want to see havoc versus

two people

fair and then like you said uh if you do

kiss some styles and she's

odd man out yeah not fear but you say

hey they left their group members yeah

there's 20 of them

it's just one of so um

clips no yeah well malice wouldn't do it

or

no malice wouldn't do it they shouldn't

do it yeah

i don't know it's hard to find a dude

i'm not feeling this one though

i mean i'm going to watch it because i

love devon's artists but

versus the verse is just changing it's

evolving clearly

it's just going to be a concert series

which is what i think

was the plan somewhat i mean i don't

want to see a rapper i don't want to see

rapper's concert

concert series i don't and i know i'm

trying to do much money you don't want

your

verses i don't i don't want to see

rappers performing through zoom

oh okay that's about no i'm with you now

in person i would love to see it but

singing on camera for some reason

is just better listen today today they

have too much cool [ __ ] for a new act to

do

like uh i love that series uh what is it

colors

color studios colors where it's just a

bright background and a mic hanging

one of my favorite really good series yo

just cut me off man

i'm telling you what the name of it you

asked what's the name of it i said

colors it's one of my favorite uh

platforms oh i was right half the time

you asked the question i answered it i

wasn't cutting you off that's what

happens when you ask a question

oh you knew the answer yeah so that's

not a cut off okay man

look look at this guy gunning looks like

the greatest rapper ever in this empty

room

everybody looks like the greatest ever

not oh not too much production but

you're paying attention to the artists

what they saying

right like the attention is in the right

spot i even love the one wire that you

could see i just love this

uh like you always say tiny desk there's

a bunch of spots that do

it right trap symphony shots and make it

cool trap symphony yeah shout out to

erickson what i'm saying now trap

symphony is really good

yeah but uh yeah with the with the

online [ __ ]

you do kind of have to focus more on the

words and the performance

rather than trying to just do a crazy

production that that works live

yeah e killing the angles

and all of y'all ain't gonna sound good

uh

when the saxophone is just playing like

i know that's the trend

i know get the live horns

get the ill drummer yes it don't work

for

everybody yeah is all and i don't want

to see it from anybody but

i don't really understand why erickson

would like roddy rich so much better

than me

[Music]

everything rowdy rich does is the

coolest thing in the world it is

it's amazing talent like did y'all hear

uh

did y'all hear how the fans got the

update on some new heat that might be

coming from him

his baby moms his baby mom's tweeted i

spoke to your little boyfriend today

what a rollout i spoke to y'all a little

boyfriend she said i spoke to y'all

little boyfriend today

and he got a bunch of that she just said

whatever she said about the music he got

coming

where was he got heat on the way and

just be patient blah blah blah blah

but what a fly way to announce music

that is like hey your baby mom's

announcing it yeah yeah

yeah but to do it salty but know that

nah he cooking yeah yeah yeah i i hate

it

i can't get out of music yeah i

appreciate when baby mamas

balance the salt like yeah i'm not

that ain't my favorite guy in the world

but he's my family

yeah when he wins i win

like i still support that right we ain't

got to be [ __ ] necessarily but

it's a win still skit is cool man kid is

cool i don't know why rory didn't put me

on sooner

everything is worried about when i was

denying the the rottie [ __ ] when i was

playing around you

really years ago really per usual it's

fine though

what a jacket wow that is it

wow uh all right what are these certain

people could pull them

that's a weapon only certain people can

pull off their bedazzle jackets though

that's true

me of which is not one of them yeah i've

tried

let me throw this put dazzle [ __ ] in the

store maybe i could pull it off stick to

the earth tones

no i can't uh

let's see what else is important uh do

we have we have to talk about uh

i don't want to talk about it with more

here but i broke cuomo down

oh you don't talk about why i'm here i

talk i don't want to talk about that

stuff with you though

i'm bro i had fun with the whole trump

[ __ ] i'm not the political guy

all of these dudes are nasty all of them

are just money hungry

that's true evil people like i don't

care about politics

statement let me at least read the

statement that uh uh

mcquom's put out mc cuomo was getting

zesty in the political offices

and cuomo has responded and this is

after a third accuser has come

forward and said that he's been a little

handsy and just

sexually aggressive uh cuomo says i have

teased people about their personal lives

their relationships

about getting married or not getting

married i mean no offense and only

attempt to add some levity and banter to

what is a very serious business

i now understand that my interactions

may have been insensitive or too

personal

and that some of my comments given my

position made others feel in ways i

never intended

i acknowledge some of the things i have

said uh

i have said have been misinterpreted as

an unwanted flirtation

he continued to the extent anyone felt

that way i am truly

sorry and that

is the statement

[Music]

doesn't look good what was he exactly

accused of

uh trying to kiss a girl

saying stuff to another girl to the

effect of do you like

dating older men or sleeping with older

men or something that effect

okay and i'm not sure what the third one

was oh maybe this one can i kiss you

at a wedding well that is where you feel

a little kissy

yeah the drinks are flowing you got your

goods that's also why they allow you to

have a plus one mostly yeah like you can

fish

one like he came in with a woman that's

a wild place to get at my date it is a

little crazy

at the wedding i mean [ __ ] broadway joe

did it on the jet sideline

[ __ ] i said what do you think about the

jets defense this year

i want to kiss you yeah he sounds like

he's one of

one of the many in a a men in position

of power that a

little handsy and a little you know

inappropriate

why is that a thing do you think that

power

causes them to act that way or do you

think that the way that they act

causes them to end up in positions of

power i think power and money makes you

more of what you already are

yeah you can hide behind he can hide

behind that power

sure that you can do things that you

know a guy that didn't have that

position of power

couldn't do and then you know

you hide behind it because you're the

governor and we got people that can step

on these

allegations and these stories and then

go away people are not going to believe

you because they view me in the public

as this great

guy you know this heroic guy who saved

new york during the pandemic which i

don't know how people think that but

anyway

you know you hide behind it those type

of things and that's what this just

sounds like he's a little handsy a

little

inappropriate at times and women are

just being vocal about it as they should

yeah they have the right to express that

and that's what it sounds like to me but

we'll see it's looking like they're

going to investigate it and

this is not going to go away you know in

case the case is open yeah this is not

this is definitely not going to go away

all right we we will keep you posted on

what's happening um

let's stay stay in politics scream man

can you bring up what the texas governor

just just tweeted

the uh the governor of texas just

tweeted by the way like it's an album

rollout get ready

big announcement in 15 minutes yeah

let's start there i just announced that

texas is open in all caps

100 space space space everything in all

caps

space space i also ended the statewide

mass mandate i thought that was already

happening in texas

i mean i'm not going to texas

it's not just interesting to y'all how

everything just started opening up after

trump left office

but i don't all right let's have let's

answer that question in one second

right i was explaining to somebody

all right texas texas

florida and georgia have never closed

have been open why are black people

confused that texas

georgia and florida

are encouraging people to go out

i just never understood where the

confusion was with that

like even as people were partying in

houston and atlanta i'm like cool but

please be careful

should the atlanta uh mayor and the

governor have been fighting publicly

like they let you know they don't do the

greatest job in

hiding it uh i'm not gonna i'm probably

won't be in houston for a little bit i

heard something disturbing about one of

the hotels i really liked out there i

heard it was a little racist

and i don't find that difficult to

believe either

so i don't know i was in florida this

weekend if only four seasons would

update things

they just will not update i was in

florida this weekend and i had a mask on

and they were giving me side eye and

weird looks like can you please

take your mask off really you're making

us uncomfortable

i swear to god the way up here like when

someone doesn't have their mask on you

get that weird [ __ ]

stank look just getting that the entire

time but even when i had it like

on my chin listen man 10 years from now

we're going to look back at 2020 and

some of us are going to be very

surprised at the things that we learned

but what do you think we'll be surprised

that we learned

you just got to wait wait and see uh to

stay on

some of the sexual abuse allegations

that are lingering out there

uh another woman has come forward and

she's represented by lisa bloom and this

whole ti and tiny stuff that's going on

oh yeah

i've been trying not to speak on it

because uh they're building the case

they're getting witnesses they're doing

whatever they could do uh in the interim

announcements have been made regarding

uh some employment uh for tia i think

vh1 announced that

that show probably gonna hold off on

that yeah uh i saw something today that

said uh

t.i will not be returning to ant-man and

no this is a really serious topic

might i'd be lying to you if i didn't

say my first thought was oh [ __ ] t.i was

an ant-man

i had no idea he was an ant-man yeah but

that's a big deal if you get

cancelled from like some mcu [ __ ] yeah

for sure

and his vh1 [ __ ] was kind of big look at

me though pocket watcher

no that reality show is huge yeah this

uh

we'll see how this plays out yeah those

plays out

again man you just never know what

people got going on behind closed doors

in

their bedrooms you know what i mean it's

just it's disappointing sometimes when

you hit these allegations

but i don't want to see

too much time on this topic uh but did

you guys see chris deleo

are you guys familiar comedian

absolutely very big absolutely

uh i saw you put on a thing i didn't

watch it though he was he was accused of

uh

some some nasty dms with some underage

women when he was on tour

uh and kind of disappeared for maybe six

seven months

uh not sure the exact time frame but it

had been a while

uh and finally posted on his youtube uh

actual statement outside of the pr

statement that was you know

on his twitter uh and i thought it was a

interesting way to handle these type of

allegations i thought he handled it

pretty well

stood on his stood on the stand of

saying hey

everything i've ever done has been

consensual and every woman has been of

age

if that was the case i had zero clue

that those women were underage

got into his sex edition sex addiction

got into the help that he was getting

got into his relationship with his girl

through the whole thing

i thought it was a interesting way to

fully address

these type of allegations yeah

i guess i can respect him for that but i

mean he still might be a nasty man

he may be he may be and and i'm i'm not

the person that

would decide that because again i don't

know even that much about it

i just saw the screenshots but i thought

it was an interesting way

if you do watch his response to handle

this type of

era that we're in where sometimes

accusations may be true maybe not be

true

uh and where the timeline dictates if

they're true or not

and dictates your career from them and

the doc that i watched uh

about duke that was starring us uh

when they got to that part when it was

like uh

yeah sometimes [ __ ] happened and so i

needed an

underage girl he said he just didn't

know what she was she was 13

she looked older it's like

no the 13 year old girl didn't look up

age

word and also just here when you hear

these lines sure

it's your job to do dude diligence

yeah you have sure you have to go yeah

you have to do that properly well i

think um

and again correct me if i'm i'm wrong

twitter or whoever

i believe the chris deleo thing was dms

he never met these women he never slept

with these women

he was dming women that he did not know

was under age and they were saying hey

at one point i did tell him

that i'm under it i'm 16 or whatever

but yeah just wanted to bring it up when

we were on topic because this this was a

big thing

over the past week and i see he put out

a statement saying that he had a sex

addiction yeah that's that's all in this

video discusses

his entire sex addiction uh

he spoke about that in one of his

stand-ups right about

his recent press run when he did the

deluxe album of the tambourine he got

into some [ __ ] like that

he was addicted to masturbating i think

he said something like that oh well

that's a bag

and that's a what that's a bag addiction

max addiction and masturbate yeah sure

like sure and you're not harming anyone

like

i'm totally cool if you are addicted to

touching yourself

no one as long as you're not doing the

pill one is that danger yeah yeah

and they start touching yourself in

front of you they're right to kick him

in his ass

if someone was masturbating in front of

me i'd probably walk away listen the

comic attempted to explain

you just asked me that question no i'm

just kidding

i would walk away or run oh

nasty man what is that thing

no i'd be i'd be polite i'd let him

finish but i'm gonna leave

nah i see how you who am i to judge

advice in the room i see how you like

lean in like

yeah i get it who am i to judge advice

yeah i get it just i'll walk away yeah

no i get it so

see but when the listeners well when the

listeners have an issue with it when

they listen back

they'll never say yo man rory and park's

wild out a little bit they'd be like yo

joe button man

joe button been gay for a year and a

half like you got a timeline

no no i'm seeing it it said you're

playing keeps you on a force is gation

i'm like yo

that's not me anymore i stopped i ended

it you stopped one episode ago

no i stopped like literally i stopped

and parked the old house

no oh my god no it's been in this

basement no way 100 i disagree it's been

in this basement it's been in this

basement

you're finally like oh icky

why are you guys talking like that you

flew it with us shut up

with us who does me and parks the

division see

this is the division shout out to the

division

um what else is super important new

music

i don't think any anything can we talked

about on friday that not much came out

period uh scream man you you typically

do

still ain't found what your favorite

song is

i'm still on that her record damage yeah

it's a good one yeah i'm damaged too

yeah i'm still on that record um

i'll just see will smith says that he

would consider running for a political

office

what if we get will smith versus the

rock who wins

and that's what they were afraid of yeah

you know how it's always like

the fans win this is when the fans lose

that's what they were afraid of

celebrities wanting to run for office

they're gonna they're gonna put a ruling

soon that you have to have years of