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Episode 424

The Nine

Joe Budden Podcast Episode 424, “The Nine,” released March 22, 2021. On this episode: Joe, Parks, and a few Friends of the Show pay their respects to the Marvelous Marvin Hagler (11:00) and Shawn Bradley who recently suffered after a paralyzing bike accident (13:00). The guys discuss music and recap the 63rd Grammy Awards (16:10) with a debate over DaBaby’s pop star status (19:10), a review of Doja Cat’s performance (30:00), SaVon’s Justin Bieber support (36:00). Samaria Rice, mother of Tamir Rice, calls out Tamika Mallory and others of monopolizing racial injustices and using them for clout-chasing and performative purposes (48:00). The guys discuss Justin Laboy (1:11:00), new music (1:19:00), Salt bae antics (1:38:00), Rich the Kid’s LAX arrest (1:43:00), Deshaun Watson’s sexual assault allegations (2:00:00), and the Asian American hate crime murders in Atlanta (2:15:00). Saweetie’s tweets (2:23:00), Kanye West’s billionaire status (2:23:00), ‘Snow Fall’ (2:40:00), and MORE! Sleeper Picks of the Episode Joe | EST Gee - “30 Bopp” Ice | Klass Murda - “Theme Song” (Ft. Benny the Butcher) SaVon | Justin Bieber - “Peaches” (Ft. Daniel Caesar & Giveon) Parks | Charli Baltimore - “Stand Up” (Ft. Ghostface Killah) Alex | Elcamino - “Valentino Quarantine” Full transcript and searchable timestamps below.

The Nine

In this episode

  • 11:00On this episode: Joe, Parks, and a few Friends of the Show pay their respects to the Marvelous Marvin Hagler
  • 13:00Shawn Bradley who recently suffered after a paralyzing bike accident
  • 16:10The guys discuss music and recap the 63rd Grammy Awards
  • 19:10With a debate over DaBaby’s pop star status
  • 30:00A review of Doja Cat’s performance
  • 36:00SaVon’s Justin Bieber support
  • 48:00Samaria Rice, mother of Tamir Rice, calls out Tamika Mallory and others of monopolizing racial injustices and…
  • 1:11:00The guys discuss Justin Laboy
  • 1:19:00New music
  • 1:38:00Salt bae antics
  • 1:43:00Rich the Kid’s LAX arrest
  • 2:00:00Deshaun Watson’s sexual assault allegations
  • 2:15:00The Asian American hate crime murders in Atlanta
  • 2:23:00Saweetie’s tweets
  • 2:40:00‘Snow Fall’
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Joe Budden Podcast Ep. 424 Transcript

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    now

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    what is this

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    yes

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    he smoked that so that was my first

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    introduction to this gentleman uh

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    e-s-t-g

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    and yeah it's kind of crazy mic check

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    one two one two might check one two one

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    two

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    microphone check one two what is this

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    the jbp

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    boys bike to business what is this uh

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    episode

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    424 welcome to episode 424 i hope this

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    mic sounds right i'm hearing something

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    funny in the mic

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    welcome to episode 424 of the joe budden

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    podcast i'm your humble gracious

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    grateful and highly favored host joe

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    button here with a few of my nearest

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    yeah some of y'all's just cool we've got

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    e-rab over there parks is here

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    savannah's here ice is here corey is

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    here

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    and alex is here uh

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    maul and rory are on vacation they are

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    home

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    chilling maybe savon will check on them

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    shortly

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    we will see we'll see how we feel about

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    that uh but hopefully everybody as well

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    in the meantime how are you guys doing

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    i'm great well blessed doing all right

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    that cold smacked the [ __ ] out of me

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    when i walked outside but other than

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    that i'm good today

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    yeah for sure today that's privilege

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    that's new york privilege it's not that

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    it's not that bad

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    i went to the videos with a jacket on

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    and i looked at you like it was crazy

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    while i had my noise like yeah

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    it was cold it's cold it's a little

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    white white people operate differently

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    in the cold

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    that's that's that's the first thing i

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    said when i saw parks with a t-shirt on

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    outside

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    i said damn he's really whiteboarding

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    right now i'm with you i don't think

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    it's that bad out here new york

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    is beautiful uh there's no snow there's

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    no rain

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    it's a vibe out here things are about to

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    open up uh they've changed the capacity

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    rules for restaurants

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    weddings receptions all things of that

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    nature broadway is still closed

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    [ __ ] feels right out there this is my

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    first shot man

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    hey you shout out first shot how you

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    feeling i feel great man

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    first couple days my arm was felt like i

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    got hit with a baseball bat or something

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    but

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    but other than that i'm cool yeah i look

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    a little off i don't know tell me about

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    it tell me about the experience where

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    did you go was it difficult to

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    i forgot what the place was called um

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    rem had to get it for work so

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    uh she she worked that out and then it

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    turned out her uncle was kind of running

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    the place so he was like you can bring

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    people they have like a list i guess if

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    you work there

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    so we got a list me and me and brian who

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    painted the paintings in the back and we

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    went and got

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    got some vaxxes johnson and johnson uh

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    moderna

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    madeira one yeah okay all right

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    and and um and ice before we started

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    recording was talking about

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    uh the vaccination process and how he's

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    excited to go get it yeah man i'm trying

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    to be back right

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    right yeah

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    i'm not eligible in in jersey for

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    another 10 days

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    so i got to wait till you're not like a

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    um essential worker

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    no no well yeah but not in not it's just

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    tears obviously so no

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    uh

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    okay so uh does anyone want to talk

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    about rest in peace marvin hagler first

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    and foremost

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    uh that was disturbing but even more so

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    was the report that

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    uh he died over vacs uh vaccination

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    complications oh is that so

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    damn that's what it that's what it said

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    and

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    i didn't see many reports on it was that

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    official or was that like a youtube

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    report

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    uh i didn't get that from youtube well

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    his wife is talking on the new york post

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    oh okay saying she said that he didn't

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    die

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    after the cover 19 vaccine oh there you

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    go [ __ ]

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    and that's his wife ah damn it sorry

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    antibiotics

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    oh we had a conspiracy theory oh damn it

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    incredible source too fine sorry i think

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    you can take your word for that

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    all right fine that's the rest in peace

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    tomorrow

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    what else what else what else is going

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    on real quick sean bradley uh

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    not rest in peace but just tragedy while

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    we were there while he was there

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    i don't like that so many people thought

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    of me during that news breakdown i

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    thought of you

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    i definitely that's just foolishness

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    uh what happened with uh sean bradley a

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    bike accident paralyzed oh my god

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    yeah tragic horrible story

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    part of the reason why i'm petrified

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    about bikes if i'm

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    being honest like not because the bike

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    is so scary even though to me it

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    is maybe i'm a chump i don't feel like

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    people on the road respect the bikers

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    yeah like if i'm in a vehicle

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    i might not really respect the guy

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    that's on the side of me with a helmet

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    definitely not in the tri-state and that

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    could be catastrophic i'm thinking a

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    bike like a motorcycle

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    bicycle yeah i took a bad spill on a

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    bike once and that's why i'm terrified

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    of bikes

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    any seven six childhood did y'all ride

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    bikes no i rode bikes a lot this is i

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    was

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    i was 20 i was probably 22 23 i was

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    living in chicago and i uh i had like a

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    shirt around my necks it was a summer

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    and it fell into the wheel

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    and i went face first into the pavement

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    lost a couple teeth

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    wow damn yeah so person said i have not

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    ridden a bike

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    were you this tall when it happened oh

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    like i was okay

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    uh this was probably 2007 not that long

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    ago

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    damn i'm not mad at a bicycle i'm not

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    talking about a bicycle

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    as far as a motorcycle that's what i

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    thought i know

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    too many people that fell

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    and landed underneath the muffler of a

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    car

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    and then was right back on the bike a

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    few months later i'm not that brave

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    i've always wanted a motorcycle too but

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    yeah all right

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    this summer to buy a motorcycle but i'm

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    not getting a sport bike i'm getting a

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    cruiser i can't do a sport bike because

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    i know me

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    mm-hmm the dash say 200 i'm gonna try to

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    see if as close as i can get to that 200

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    yeah you have a new baby

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    exactly

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    i did the rebels a lot this summer that

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    was fun because they only go about 25

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    miles an hour so that's cool i get a

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    slingshot though

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    which is classified as a bike but it's

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    not fun listen i am not letting parks

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    and ice geek me out this entire episode

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    get ready because maul and rory are not

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    here

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    you you two are into all of this gadget

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    wiry in ox

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    output oxford whatever

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    it's a thunderbolt yeah i don't want to

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    hear anything

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    we're not we're not awesome i would

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    i was glad that we took off uh and uh

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    shout out to cash app

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    that uh sponsors us powers us empowers

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    us tolerates us puts up with our

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    [ __ ] greatest app in the world shout

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    out to y'all

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    uh we took off last week and i was happy

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    about that because i didn't have to come

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    in here and discuss the grannies

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    for a few years i've been saying

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    podcasters have to get with the idea

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    that you got to come in here and talk at

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    a time where

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    maybe you just not ready to talk about

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    [ __ ]

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    maybe it's cool to shut the [ __ ] up not

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    share your opinion just think something

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    foul about somebody that somebody else

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    don't have to know

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    so the grammys happened and we didn't

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    record

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    and i was thrilled about that aspect

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    though did you like the graves

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    i loved the grammys me too i thought it

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    was great

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    really really really really entertaining

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    but

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    i had a lot of truthful takes and

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    opinions about what was going on

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    and i didn't want to come in here and

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    have to tell the truth

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    about some of the stuff that i observed

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    you all love the grammys because i i

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    didn't like the show yeah what are we

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    talking about the grammys

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    this this year this year said the show

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    yeah the show this year performances or

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    the awards cause that's the thing

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    that's all the show that's all the show

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    yeah the awards i don't know i didn't

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    know i didn't enjoy the grammys there

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    damn awesome enjoy the show this is what

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    i was i did

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    the rock nation show no i did not

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    rock nation got some of the best artists

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    though what's not to enjoy most of the

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    artists

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    like what's not to enjoy about it you're

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    telling me that

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    meg the stallion wins every award that

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    she was nominated yeah

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    uh yeah pretty much yeah why

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    because she's mad so it's not because of

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    the people that showed up

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    right when when beyonce gets ready to

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    win the tying and record-breaking award

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    and the camera stays on them the entire

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    time

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    it has nothing to do with them right i

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    didn't even correlate those two things

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    okay

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    i saw it i ain't stupid and y'all could

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    pull the wool over everybody else's eyes

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    we know what y'all did

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    i'm coming in here to say how phony i am

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    we knew that though yeah

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    we knew that that's probably really yeah

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    i thought i was keeping it a secret all

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    this time

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    i'm coming in here and listen these

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    grammy awards

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    made me come face to face with my

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    phoniness man

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    finally so damn

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    so let's unpack it all let's do it let's

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    unpack it all

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    and i got some interesting takes here

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    okay i

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    loved the grammys what a

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    show what a display of black

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    excellence i love the awards i love the

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    performances i loved all the people i

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    hated i loved the labels i loved paola

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    that was it i love teams of

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    moving their weight around to get all of

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    their artists nominated

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    and winning and performing are you

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    kidding me

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    so let's get into how phony i am

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    and let's start with the baby okay the

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    baby

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    he started the show the baby's a pop

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    star he is yes

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    i would have never argued that because

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    who knows but i heard his i heard his

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    feature on the duallipo record yeah

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    and he says we're pop stars

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    and the s was plural that put that one

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    to bed

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    wish rory was here so i could tell him

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    the baby is a pop star

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    if you didn't know now you know look at

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    the look at the grammys that's the

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    possibility what the grammys is and i

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    feel bad for all of the other artists

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    i feel bad for the art other artists at

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    the labels because what the grammys

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    is is a reminder as to who keeps the

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    lights on at the labels

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    it is a stark reminder of who the label

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    deems as important

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    and how much is into them

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    i normally hate all of those people

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    whoever the label is really

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    into i don't know about that's not how i

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    bump into my music

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    yeah uh that's not who i champion and

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    support because that's not

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    how i'm built but on this night

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    you're feeling it would a baby kill

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    somebody

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    yeah i think they did it right though

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    word

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    i'm just walking you through my train of

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    thought this night

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    the grammys opened up

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    okay okay okay all right yeah you're the

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    killer yeah

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    with the guy with the guy who was

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    self-defense

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    when you challenged him to spencer when

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    you yes but wait wait wait see killer

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    just comes with such a negative

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    connotation

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    he's a self-defender yeah we never said

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    well whether he was justified or not hey

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    they ran up on him and his family and he

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    did what he had to do

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    right but that was years ago and the law

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    has not

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    made this a thing he's vindicated in

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    that fact

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    and now he's opening the grammys with

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    two elderly white people

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    dancing behind more than two he had a

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    squad yeah he did it

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    he did like the judges yo he did

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    everything he was supposed to do

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    he set up the fake grammys for his

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    daughter to walk the red carpet

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    he showed up killed the awards i don't

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    like how they didn't give anthony

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    hamilton any uh screen time i was like

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    is that anthony

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    sounds like anthony hamilton they never

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    showed him and at the end they're like

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    oh anthony hamilton

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    all right give the guy some shine man

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    shout out anthony hamilton yeah

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    but the grammys opened up for me

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    strong

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    oh

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    let's hear it because when you call

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    somebody a killer you put something on

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    their name and i i i don't want to put

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    anything on there

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    wait that's what i'm putting on because

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    he didn't go out and look to kill

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    somebody somebody came for him and he

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    did what he had to do

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    so i don't want to just call him a

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    killer technically yeah he's a killer

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    but he he's not somebody going out

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    looking to kill people he's gucci

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    killer um he killed somebody as well in

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    self-defense

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    is he a killer he's a self-defense he's

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    killed somebody yes i'm not calling

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    somebody a killer i think a killer comes

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    with a certain intent

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    they didn't have the intention they had

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    the intention to defend themselves maybe

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    that's a murderer

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    what the hell is saying though because

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    you know you know first of all

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    murder has to have intent and act so

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    maybe that's a murderer you're thinking

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    of

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    not a killer maybe i just don't like the

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    cuff i don't like the connotation of it

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    that's that's

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    for me that's just like for you that's

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    for me i'm not gonna say hey a killer

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    opened up the grammys nah

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    somebody came for him and he did what he

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    had to do and he killed them

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    absolutely absolutely absolutely

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    but my argument i agree with you when my

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    when when i'm making my argument to like

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    a significant other like

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    hey some lies is good like

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    you can't bunch all liars together

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    i mean the best for you when i be lying

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    i'm lying to you for you

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    really yeah so i support you in that

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    thank you

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    but anyway the grammys opened with

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    someone who's a self-defender yeah

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    and he is the priority at the label and

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    that brought a smile to my face

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    then he left jay's clothes came back do

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    a leap he's on a pop record now he was

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    all over the place

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    mad jewelry he looked great melanated

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    skin glistening off the [ __ ] screen

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    i love that and then i was reminded holy

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    [ __ ] this is cbs

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    this is cbs

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    [ __ ] it's lit so that was how i started

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    i started with

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    oh look at what hip-hop is doing i see

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    this i see this i see it

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    yeah every performer they brought out

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    i loved most of them i only turned when

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    taylor swift came out because that's not

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    my bad

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    yeah insane but then i went back i

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    wasn't even mad how they started the uh

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    country set with a a black woman singing

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    about being black in america

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    in a country format i was like okay yeah

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    that's a nice way to make someone like

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    me who's never going to listen to the

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    country set listen to the country set

  • 15:28

    for a minute

  • 15:29

    they remember the the uh the backlash

  • 15:32

    about

  • 15:32

    you know the boy boys with yeah yeah hey

  • 15:34

    name for the torches

  • 15:36

    so they like all right listen we're

  • 15:37

    gonna make sure yeah you know you call

  • 15:39

    it pandering catering whatever

  • 15:41

    we're gonna make sure we keep certain

  • 15:43

    folk happy this time mm-hmm

  • 15:44

    we're gonna you know this is their

  • 15:45

    attempt at doing it right so

  • 15:48

    so the grammys the report came out that

  • 15:51

    the ratings were down

  • 15:53

    by 10 million right but for me another

  • 15:55

    reason why i enjoyed the grammys

  • 15:57

    was this small little tidbit here and i

  • 16:01

    have no facts

  • 16:02

    this appeared to be a stick up on

  • 16:05

    numerous fronts stick up season is in

  • 16:09

    effect

  • 16:10

    it's a pandemic it's quarantined

  • 16:15

    the contracts we thought we had to

  • 16:17

    deliver

  • 16:19

    on networks some of them flaked

  • 16:22

    we can't promise how to drive ratings in

  • 16:25

    certain blocks

  • 16:26

    for me cbs has a stick up here

  • 16:31

    i don't know that cbs wants to show meg

  • 16:34

    and cardi grinding on each other

  • 16:36

    but i think that in a pandemic

  • 16:38

    absolutely

  • 16:40

    with whoever handles the grammy contract

  • 16:42

    saying yo dawg this is what's getting it

  • 16:44

    done this year

  • 16:45

    sorry i think everywhere i think cbs is

  • 16:49

    up against a little wall i don't know

  • 16:50

    that but

  • 16:51

    it appeared that way i also think that

  • 16:53

    the performers

  • 16:55

    and the winners were able to negotiate

  • 16:58

    differently than they've been able to in

  • 17:00

    the past

  • 17:00

    with the grammys and the grammy board

  • 17:03

    you think they gave him the uh yeah

  • 17:04

    we'll pull up if you give us one

  • 17:07

    jay boycotted the grammys i know word

  • 17:10

    right and

  • 17:10

    in case you thought that boycott

  • 17:12

    disappeared he was there jay wore black

  • 17:14

    jeans and a black hoodie and a black

  • 17:17

    long coat and told his hairstylist to do

  • 17:19

    the bob marley look in his hair there's

  • 17:21

    a basket

  • 17:22

    whatever it is whatever it is it's

  • 17:24

    something symbolic of something good

  • 17:30

    that's the beacon of hope yeah yeah yeah

  • 17:32

    it's one of them dudes

  • 17:34

    some [ __ ] had that [ __ ] yeah that's how

  • 17:38

    you got to show up when you say you

  • 17:38

    don't care though

  • 17:40

    he took the picture with his wife his

  • 17:41

    wife was in all black

  • 17:44

    i love that they hugged up they hey

  • 17:46

    they're those things

  • 17:47

    those things are symbolic that's a

  • 17:49

    statement those things are symbolic of

  • 17:51

    something

  • 17:51

    to joe so i'm championing this so far so

  • 17:55

    if you think

  • 17:55

    that i don't think that roc nation or

  • 17:58

    somebody got on the phone

  • 18:00

    with the grammy board and said this is

  • 18:01

    how this is gonna go absolutely

  • 18:04

    meg is winning everything yeah or else

  • 18:07

    beyonce will walk up there with her and

  • 18:09

    say a few words and she's gonna become

  • 18:11

    the biggest grammy winner of all time

  • 18:24

    what is this something that we've

  • 18:25

    developed on this podcast is learning

  • 18:27

    when to massage

  • 18:28

    our relationships uh i would never say

  • 18:31

    such a thing

  • 18:33

    but ice did the beautiful ice are only

  • 18:35

    from ice listen she won the award

  • 18:38

    if you're asking me i think

  • 18:39

    conversations were had like that's what

  • 18:41

    i think

  • 18:42

    uh and that being said savage was one of

  • 18:44

    the biggest songs of last year so she

  • 18:46

    deserves every interview it's not like

  • 18:47

    it was a reach

  • 18:48

    giving her uh her and beyonce a million

  • 18:50

    awards for

  • 18:52

    well one of the biggest songs of last

  • 18:53

    year to me and to me only it's a reach

  • 18:55

    when the grammys get it right

  • 18:56

    oh it's fair it's like nah is winning

  • 18:59

    this year

  • 19:00

    to me is back to the stick up

  • 19:02

    congratulations tonight's

  • 19:04

    [ __ ] right congratulations to nars

  • 19:06

    yes congratulations to nancy

  • 19:08

    thank you i thought it was album of the

  • 19:11

    year

  • 19:11

    freddy gibbs tweeted i rap better when

  • 19:13

    i'm angry i wanted to hit him back and

  • 19:15

    say what you angry about

  • 19:18

    that's good that you rap better when

  • 19:19

    you're angry true but what are you angry

  • 19:21

    about

  • 19:21

    go listen to the noise album it's still

  • 19:22

    a window for good to be nominated one

  • 19:24

    for royce

  • 19:25

    it's a win for everybody that was

  • 19:27

    nominated and congrats to my own

  • 19:28

    thoughts about

  • 19:29

    the entire group that's nominated

  • 19:32

    but again i'm happy nice one out of who

  • 19:36

    was up there

  • 19:37

    you know uh i mean of course we want to

  • 19:39

    see roy skinner but

  • 19:41

    yeah but you're hating on december but

  • 19:43

    we want to know what that is

  • 19:46

    yeah we got to stop doing that too i

  • 19:47

    like these smokes i like this smoker

  • 19:49

    you might be killing them on this part

  • 19:51

    and i like these smiles i like these

  • 19:53

    this is who that is that album wasn't a

  • 19:55

    big enough album in my opinion to be

  • 19:56

    grammy now what record

  • 19:58

    like i'm not trying to be funny i've

  • 19:59

    never heard of these i've seen the name

  • 20:01

    i don't know he was on the

  • 20:02

    netflix show with cardi and but what

  • 20:04

    that's not music i know it was the song

  • 20:06

    i see why you didn't start a podcast

  • 20:09

    that's not a shot that's not a shot

  • 20:13

    never hurt

  • 20:16

    that's a shot and he knows music so it

  • 20:18

    might be a shot because that's a shot

  • 20:20

    but i thought but knows someone because

  • 20:23

    more popular music these smoke is serg's

  • 20:25

    brother they're twins

  • 20:26

    do you smoke raps he won the netflix

  • 20:28

    show sir

  • 20:30

    he's on tv they look like twins they

  • 20:33

    look like toads

  • 20:35

    okay i don't think they're actually

  • 20:36

    choking i just never knew i can't

  • 20:37

    explain further but i like these balls

  • 20:41

    really nice winning for me was the

  • 20:44

    grammy's attempt at

  • 20:45

    saying hey we're going to do some things

  • 20:48

    correctly ice t1

  • 20:49

    as well for uh best heavy metal band uh

  • 20:52

    body count

  • 20:53

    so congratulations to the og that was

  • 20:55

    interesting yeah

  • 20:56

    oh [ __ ] i didn't know that yeah

  • 20:57

    congratulations man

  • 20:59

    a lot of this stuff was the pre did you

  • 21:01

    guys watch the pre-show too where they

  • 21:02

    just

  • 21:03

    quickly ran down i'm not a loser i

  • 21:04

    watched them

  • 21:07

    twitter

  • 21:14

    joe

  • 21:28

    yeah alex don't do that that's my guy

  • 21:30

    too

  • 21:33

    yeah i don't understand why they can't

  • 21:34

    put some of that stuff like on the

  • 21:35

    actual wardrobe because they were just

  • 21:36

    going through the list like oh now's one

  • 21:38

    yo ice t-1 yeah

  • 21:39

    like you can do that in the mail on

  • 21:41

    tweets oh [ __ ] okay oh this is one all

  • 21:44

    right i'm just

  • 21:45

    just back to back yeah you could do that

  • 21:48

    i love this doji cat girl i do

  • 21:51

    yeah i love it told everybody she was

  • 21:53

    dumb y'all could miss me with that yo we

  • 21:55

    canceling dozier cat that ain't

  • 21:56

    happening

  • 21:56

    like she's but i didn't know so when

  • 21:58

    they said that i was one of the guys to

  • 22:00

    cancel her i went and saw the little

  • 22:01

    tiny chat thing yeah

  • 22:02

    i don't know where she may have been

  • 22:04

    offensive and with some kkk racist

  • 22:07

    people

  • 22:08

    but i wasn't but i wasn't [ __ ] with

  • 22:10

    her because her entryway

  • 22:12

    to this thing was [ __ ] which is a

  • 22:15

    certified classic record

  • 22:16

    certified i play at christmas every year

  • 22:20

    moo she's a performer too

  • 22:23

    she's a performer she is she she's good

  • 22:26

    in front of the camera

  • 22:27

    all right all right her entry record

  • 22:28

    kind of dictates

  • 22:30

    the way that and just you got to do some

  • 22:31

    gimmicky [ __ ] to get on trick the people

  • 22:33

    to follow you and then show them your

  • 22:35

    talent

  • 22:35

    that's been happening yeah but she is

  • 22:37

    the person to do that she just did in a

  • 22:38

    more funny way to me than most people i

  • 22:40

    could name a couple of other artists

  • 22:41

    that have done that

  • 22:42

    and and been super successful with

  • 22:44

    gimmicky [ __ ] from the rip

  • 22:46

    and then once i get you wheeled i get

  • 22:48

    you reeled in now it's hey look now i'm

  • 22:50

    actually dope

  • 22:50

    no i'm actually dope i can rap i got you

  • 23:01

    the baby walking around in the pamper

  • 23:03

    right like that's a gimmick that's a

  • 23:05

    gimmick

  • 23:06

    you're an idiot because babies walk

  • 23:09

    around

  • 23:10

    in pampers he's a grown man

  • 23:13

    according to you is a killer a grown man

  • 23:16

    that's a killer

  • 23:17

    a self-defender but in their definition

  • 23:19

    a killer walking around in a pamper

  • 23:21

    is a gimmick but so listen so this is

  • 23:23

    where i was faced with my own

  • 23:24

    contradiction

  • 23:25

    and i do believe that humans are just

  • 23:26

    walking contradictions of course yeah

  • 23:28

    every once in a while your cat comes out

  • 23:30

    i was a little finicky because y'all

  • 23:31

    told me to cancel her

  • 23:33

    cool i'm phony i thought i thought she

  • 23:36

    killed her performances

  • 23:38

    i thought she looked thick in a little

  • 23:39

    robot outfit i was like oh what a hot

  • 23:41

    robot

  • 23:42

    what a hot box she got it she got it bro

  • 23:46

    i didn't know i didn't tell me she had a

  • 23:47

    fatty back there

  • 23:57

    and then an hour later i'm sitting there

  • 23:59

    watching with cory and who strolls out

  • 24:01

    you guessed it post below

  • 24:04

    i start going crazy

  • 24:07

    listen i don't care if y'all laughing me

  • 24:10

    joe goes

  • 24:10

    crazy when post malone comes out

  • 24:14

    he's dope yeah that's nasty though have

  • 24:16

    you ever heard hollywood hollywood's

  • 24:17

    bleeding yes

  • 24:19

    i just wish he did it that night in

  • 24:21

    hollywood

  • 24:23

    no no no no no sorry

  • 24:26

    he didn't get there but post malone i

  • 24:28

    apolo i i

  • 24:29

    same way as doji cat i wrote him off i

  • 24:32

    didn't like that white eyebrows i didn't

  • 24:33

    do that white ivor someone was the

  • 24:35

    reason why i didn't like him

  • 24:36

    and not even that the song was bad

  • 24:39

    everybody i'm harvesting fan

  • 24:41

    you're the biggest cyrus fan in the

  • 24:42

    world when i met you you was wearing

  • 24:44

    iverson jersey i was like damn bro it's

  • 24:46

    twenty six twenty seven pair of iverson

  • 24:48

    sneakers right now mm-hmm just like nice

  • 24:50

    with the iverson jersey

  • 24:51

    and then somebody photoshopped a post

  • 24:53

    malone vid of him saying the

  • 24:55

    n word ooh photoshop yeah

  • 25:02

    i don't think it was him but i said

  • 25:04

    without phony i am like damn why do i

  • 25:05

    accept post malone this way

  • 25:08

    and nobody else like justin bieber i

  • 25:11

    pushed

  • 25:11

    biebs through the [ __ ] pushed him

  • 25:14

    through the ringer

  • 25:15

    he dropped some [ __ ] today i'm gonna

  • 25:17

    challenge you on that i'm i'm gonna

  • 25:18

    challenge you all now

  • 25:20

    i'm defending the bees bro

  • 25:24

    you drop some heat some [ __ ]

  • 25:35

    when we get to music i'ma hold your feet

  • 25:37

    to the fire a little bit joe because

  • 25:38

    i've been sitting on the sideline

  • 25:40

    and i don't really like the energy you

  • 25:41

    bring to justin bieber because you hold

  • 25:43

    him accountable for some [ __ ] he did

  • 25:45

    when he was young

  • 25:46

    but i think he's one of the very few

  • 25:48

    when we talk about pop stars he's one of

  • 25:50

    the few pop stars that are trying to get

  • 25:51

    it right

  • 25:52

    and he's actively doing it like your man

  • 25:54

    post malone

  • 26:09

    [ __ ] hip-hop all of this [ __ ] he doesn't

  • 26:11

    make hip-hop music

  • 26:12

    yeah he's not a let me reply because i'm

  • 26:15

    here with my cape to defend post below

  • 26:17

    i'm with you on that too by the way how

  • 26:18

    is he a culture vulture

  • 26:20

    he don't rap he don't make music

  • 26:24

    music he ain't trying to make nothing

  • 26:26

    that appeals to you

  • 26:27

    even the white iverson was working was

  • 26:29

    that hip-hop that's what

  • 26:30

    i don't think it really was it was

  • 26:32

    sing-songy vibey

  • 26:34

    i don't fancy he's up here dressed as

  • 26:37

    the undertaker

  • 26:39

    the people that look like they're gonna

  • 26:40

    take your life all around him and he's

  • 26:42

    like

  • 26:43

    nelson tattoo wait wait wait wait wait

  • 26:45

    wait wait wait hold up cause this is my

  • 26:46

    real thing and he's really singing

  • 26:48

    unlike that silk sonic

  • 26:55

    [Music]

  • 27:03

    which one are you talking about so sonic

  • 27:06

    is two

  • 27:07

    so out of the group which one is yours

  • 27:08

    it don't matter it does matter it don't

  • 27:11

    matter it matters

  • 27:11

    it don't matter no it doesn't matter i'm

  • 27:13

    a provocateur what's the word for what

  • 27:15

    i'm doing

  • 27:16

    i'm an antagonizer we're

  • 27:23

    let me get back to uh come on slow down

  • 27:24

    we're speeding let me get back to save

  • 27:26

    on point

  • 27:27

    the biebs the bees i forgive people when

  • 27:29

    it seems like they're apologetic

  • 27:31

    one i didn't really like his apology

  • 27:34

    about the [ __ ]

  • 27:35

    any harmony i hated that he harmonized

  • 27:38

    [ __ ] and i didn't like his apology

  • 27:39

    about it

  • 27:40

    well he harmonized it and it was fire

  • 27:42

    first off

  • 27:43

    what not he was getting it

  • 27:59

    black man in america that he was he got

  • 28:02

    it all because he was harming the voice

  • 28:03

    you said the harm i'm just talking about

  • 28:05

    the harmony

  • 28:05

    you [ __ ] what he said no

  • 28:08

    i'm not a fan of what he said and and

  • 28:11

    like i said

  • 28:12

    then we're going backwards bro you you

  • 28:14

    got to look at the person for what he's

  • 28:16

    trying to do today

  • 28:18

    like if you go on his he's one of the

  • 28:19

    few pop stars that's speaking out

  • 28:21

    on a lot of the issues

  • 28:37

    because we [ __ ] on pop stars all the

  • 28:39

    time for taking the sound

  • 28:40

    taking the vibes of the culture and he's

  • 28:43

    been accused of that

  • 28:44

    and i've done it he's done it yeah they

  • 28:45

    ain't even been accused he's still doing

  • 28:47

    it but he's the

  • 28:49

    the first he's never stopped doing it

  • 28:51

    ever but he's in the minority of saying

  • 28:53

    hey

  • 28:54

    no he's a majority okay he's the

  • 28:56

    majority in that sense

  • 28:57

    but he speaks to it and he says like yo

  • 29:01

    [ __ ] ain't right or this is black and

  • 29:04

    white [ __ ] like he speaks to someone

  • 29:05

    like what matter movement the brianna

  • 29:07

    taylor stuff like i followed and they go

  • 29:09

    on

  • 29:09

    on social media oh you believe that

  • 29:13

    yeah yeah yeah you inviting them to the

  • 29:15

    cooking

  • 29:16

    oh you believe the poem he wrote like

  • 29:19

    it's the actions

  • 29:21

    hello to the blacks i didn't mean

  • 29:24

    i didn't mean to attack what i said was

  • 29:28

    wack [ __ ] and as a man or a fat you fell

  • 29:30

    for that whatever you said you're still

  • 29:31

    listening uh sabrina claudio

  • 29:33

    right yes i do okay and i'll [ __ ] her

  • 29:37

    yeah that's the reason why i'm sorry to

  • 29:38

    be honest

  • 29:44

    but what's your point give it to me but

  • 29:45

    nah she did uh a similar thing

  • 29:47

    some racism she has never harmonized

  • 29:49

    [ __ ] you know she's not to our

  • 29:51

    knowledge

  • 29:51

    and we've never seen

  • 29:55

    speaking to black women right

  • 29:58

    and now you still listen to her music

  • 30:00

    you champion whatever you champion

  • 30:02

    like you just gotta keep that same

  • 30:04

    energy in my opinion

  • 30:05

    just because he's a little bit bigger

  • 30:06

    and just because you don't like the word

  • 30:08

    the way that it happened it's still the

  • 30:09

    same offense

  • 30:10

    racism is racism but if you i haven't

  • 30:13

    heard a word from her

  • 30:14

    have you heard from sabrina claudia yeah

  • 30:16

    i play it every morning in the shower

  • 30:19

    take care of

  • 30:23

    yeah she apologized okay and then

  • 30:25

    there's silence after that

  • 30:28

    when brianna taylor gets killed or when

  • 30:31

    anybody when there's a travesty in the

  • 30:32

    black community

  • 30:33

    you don't hear her you don't hear a lot

  • 30:36

    of these people

  • 30:36

    that's all i'm saying like okay

  • 30:39

    shut up so he uses this

  • 30:44

    [ __ ] but whether you believe him or not

  • 30:47

    because he's being used

  • 31:02

    no never that i'm never getting i'm not

  • 31:04

    giving him a pass for saying this [ __ ]

  • 31:06

    yeah i'm not giving him a position

  • 31:09

    not giving him a passport anyway he

  • 31:11

    dropped some heat

  • 31:14

    dropped man like and i've been sitting

  • 31:17

    on the sidelines listening

  • 31:19

    to justin bieber wait wait time out time

  • 31:21

    out time out you gave me like

  • 31:23

    time out save on i apologize it may be

  • 31:26

    my ptsd

  • 31:28

    you keep saying i've been sitting on the

  • 31:29

    sidelines and it was triggering me

  • 31:32

    are you unhappy have you been unhappy on

  • 31:35

    the sidelines

  • 31:36

    i'm good on the side i'm good i'm

  • 31:39

    straight

  • 31:40

    hey listen we don't have to debate this

  • 31:41

    because this is what i thought for two

  • 31:43

    seconds when i was watching the grammys

  • 31:44

    and i didn't want to tell anybody

  • 31:46

    it was damn some of these people have

  • 31:48

    been killing for saying the the

  • 31:50

    n-word they love us they love us they

  • 31:53

    just wanted some attention

  • 31:55

    needed to figure out a way in and then

  • 31:57

    apologized and

  • 31:58

    it's

  • 32:05

    [Music]

  • 32:11

    a lot of people let's keep this moving a

  • 32:13

    lot of people laughed at me for my silk

  • 32:15

    sonic take about them being too perfect

  • 32:17

    and now and then they performed and it

  • 32:20

    was perfect

  • 32:22

    somebody talked it was perfect somebody

  • 32:24

    talked to me hey those are my guys

  • 32:26

    yeah it was perfect that [ __ ] was

  • 32:28

    perfect that song is beautiful

  • 32:31

    that song is song of the year probably

  • 32:33

    so far

  • 32:34

    that performance was perfect y'all

  • 32:37

    [ __ ] is too perfect

  • 32:39

    you all need to go find mistakes and

  • 32:41

    [ __ ] up every once in a while

  • 32:42

    there's beauty in the mistakes what i

  • 32:44

    don't like about sonic

  • 32:46

    they too talented to do the [ __ ]

  • 32:48

    they was doing on twitter

  • 32:49

    oh i hated that oh my god like

  • 32:51

    disgusting and it goes back to the

  • 32:53

    i'm a cow [ __ ] like leave that photo

  • 32:56

    tell the people what you're doing

  • 32:57

    what what were they doing on twitter the

  • 32:58

    fake uh they didn't

  • 33:00

    fake rollout yeah some it was a real

  • 33:02

    rollout oh it was a rollout but

  • 33:04

    they beefing with each other on twitter

  • 33:06

    then the grammys jump in hey

  • 33:07

    you know we agreed to have you guys

  • 33:09

    perform can y'all pac like

  • 33:11

    just fake arguing with each other on

  • 33:12

    twitter to get people

  • 33:14

    talking about you know we talked to

  • 33:15

    coyotes when kai's called last week and

  • 33:17

    he was like

  • 33:19

    that's so corny i don't want to see

  • 33:21

    super

  • 33:22

    talented people resort to those tactics

  • 33:24

    leave that for the

  • 33:25

    people who i gotta find you bruno mars

  • 33:27

    can drop anything without

  • 33:29

    a word we're gonna run and listen to it

  • 33:31

    in fact you don't have to trick us

  • 33:33

    with this rollout [ __ ] on the internet

  • 33:35

    for a live performance at that

  • 33:37

    well i'm gonna push back on that

  • 33:40

    bruno mars can drop anything he wants

  • 33:43

    whenever he wants because the name bruno

  • 33:45

    mars comes with

  • 33:46

    whatever the credit check is that comes

  • 33:48

    with that um

  • 33:52

    if bruno mars if you call best buy and

  • 33:54

    say hey bruno mars is dropping they're

  • 33:55

    going to order a lot

  • 33:56

    yeah if you say silk sonic is dropping

  • 33:59

    they don't have any credit report

  • 34:01

    anywhere we don't know what that means

  • 34:02

    even when you say it's anderson pack

  • 34:04

    and bruno mars we still don't know how

  • 34:07

    it will perform

  • 34:08

    and from the label standpoint we need

  • 34:10

    this to perform like this and we still

  • 34:12

    need bruno to drop

  • 34:14

    and perform like that that's why we're

  • 34:16

    doing this

  • 34:17

    it's it's just whack though it's just

  • 34:20

    wack

  • 34:20

    like come up with something else yeah

  • 34:23

    that's whack

  • 34:24

    that was right that's all that's all to

  • 34:25

    me

  • 34:27

    they're going against let's talk about

  • 34:29

    the people that performed at the grammys

  • 34:31

    we talked about the baby i like their

  • 34:32

    other performances

  • 34:34

    chuck berry uh there was a chuck no

  • 34:36

    little richard uh tribute

  • 34:39

    um megan carty stars

  • 34:43

    uh taylor swift star little baby

  • 34:47

    star yeah also back to my debaby point

  • 34:51

    when little baby comes out and kills his

  • 34:53

    performance i say wow

  • 34:54

    great that he's at the top of music also

  • 34:57

    somebody who i deem

  • 34:59

    to blow your [ __ ] brains out if the

  • 35:00

    situation ever presented itself

  • 35:02

    i like this self-defense okay i'm

  • 35:04

    getting it i'm getting too many stories

  • 35:06

    it's been too many horror stories over

  • 35:08

    the years past two years

  • 35:09

    all right of our favorite rappers that

  • 35:13

    are believable dying right or getting

  • 35:16

    shot

  • 35:17

    or going to jail we're not really

  • 35:20

    singing the praises of some of the

  • 35:22

    people that are sitting at the top

  • 35:24

    of music last decade when it was drake

  • 35:27

    cole and kendrick at the top

  • 35:29

    us lyricists were saying yo look at the

  • 35:31

    people at the top

  • 35:33

    lyricists are in lyricists are back

  • 35:36

    those are the people at the top

  • 35:37

    this decade it looks like the streets

  • 35:40

    are at the top

  • 35:41

    [Music]

  • 35:42

    the streets at the top the trenches as

  • 35:44

    they as they uh

  • 35:45

    love to call it you know same thing but

  • 35:47

    the new word

  • 35:48

    is the trenches little baby the baby

  • 35:51

    [ __ ] janae

  • 35:53

    yeah yeah janae came out like look more

  • 35:55

    gangsters

  • 35:56

    yeah it's nothing but a gangster party

  • 36:00

    yeah right right absolutely give it to

  • 36:03

    me like i did like

  • 36:04

    i enjoyed the stick up i enjoyed the

  • 36:06

    politics

  • 36:07

    that a lot of people were laughing at it

  • 36:10

    was funny to me

  • 36:11

    but congratulations to roc nation as a

  • 36:14

    whole congratulations to meg

  • 36:15

    i mean i'm not i'm not at work

  • 36:17

    congratulations tonight

  • 36:19

    congratulations to bad bunny yeah when i

  • 36:21

    when i say

  • 36:22

    the roc nation point it's still a

  • 36:25

    congratulation to him to even be able to

  • 36:26

    be in that position to do that

  • 36:28

    you know what i'm saying we couldn't do

  • 36:30

    that before like yo check this out man

  • 36:32

    my people winning

  • 36:33

    we ain't showing up right so just to be

  • 36:36

    able to be in that position

  • 36:37

    that's fine i love so i'm not gonna be a

  • 36:40

    hater i still just

  • 36:42

    you know i don't like it i love that my

  • 36:44

    son snuck his way up there

  • 36:46

    did he yeah i didn't see that during a

  • 36:48

    little baby performance he had the

  • 36:49

    camouflage shirt on with a mask on in

  • 36:51

    the back with his fist in the air

  • 36:55

    [Music]

  • 36:58

    that performance was just powerful man

  • 37:00

    that took me back to the uh

  • 37:02

    the kendrick uh performance a couple

  • 37:04

    years back yeah

  • 37:05

    like and for little baby to be in that

  • 37:07

    position

  • 37:09

    top of the game like you said the

  • 37:11

    streets all the youngins

  • 37:13

    rock with him to do that on that

  • 37:16

    platform

  • 37:17

    salute so my thing is how could you

  • 37:19

    watch the grammys

  • 37:20

    and see where hip-hop is right now

  • 37:23

    and really be angered by you got to

  • 37:25

    support every one of those

  • 37:27

    acts what they stand for what they're

  • 37:30

    doing

  • 37:31

    i loved the more intimate setting at the

  • 37:33

    grammys where it wasn't 9 million people

  • 37:35

    red carpet cameras everywhere i love

  • 37:37

    hey only the people we need to be here

  • 37:39

    are here right that little kick flip

  • 37:41

    after you through the mouth

  • 37:42

    tough cocktail was hilarious he did like

  • 37:45

    a windmill kick after yeah

  • 37:47

    anyway no i thought it was cool seeing

  • 37:49

    um

  • 37:50

    because if you remember a little baby

  • 37:51

    said he was all for this kind of

  • 37:53

    movement like he didn't

  • 37:54

    he didn't want to be known as the new

  • 37:56

    wave um

  • 37:57

    activist rapper yeah he said he wouldn't

  • 37:59

    do this he said he was not doing i'm not

  • 38:01

    exactly doing any more records like this

  • 38:02

    this was a one and done for me and and

  • 38:04

    to see him get on the grammys almost a

  • 38:06

    year later because this came out almost

  • 38:08

    a year ago

  • 38:09

    and to see him get on the grammys on one

  • 38:10

    of the biggest stages and and

  • 38:12

    and do what he did like that that's a

  • 38:15

    performance

  • 38:16

    like we know little baby he's going to

  • 38:19

    rap he's going to give you the melodies

  • 38:20

    he's going to do that

  • 38:21

    but like he got up there and he

  • 38:22

    performed a record

  • 38:24

    that he said he wasn't going to touch

  • 38:26

    too much yeah so

  • 38:28

    i like seeing that a lot and like

  • 38:29

    everybody he brought off out stations

  • 38:31

    samika mallory too for the poem thing

  • 38:33

    that she dropped yeah i seen social

  • 38:34

    media

  • 38:35

    trying to cancel her a couple days ago

  • 38:37

    i'm not wrong

  • 38:38

    i'm just not wrong they tried to cancel

  • 38:41

    who

  • 38:41

    um they've been basically saying that

  • 38:44

    she's

  • 38:45

    like what is it what's the performance

  • 38:48

    yeah yeah

  • 38:49

    yeah like the same thing i've seen

  • 38:51

    people accuse uh

  • 38:52

    sean king of it's just like coming in

  • 38:55

    and

  • 38:55

    i think they accused of sean king but

  • 38:57

    it's not just they this was tamiya

  • 38:59

    rice's

  • 39:00

    mom if i'm correct okay see i didn't

  • 39:02

    know it started from there i'm just i'm

  • 39:03

    just saw it on my timeline i said oh

  • 39:05

    y'all are finally telling the truth

  • 39:06

    about her and i'm like

  • 39:08

    it was a lot on her and black lives

  • 39:10

    matter the organization

  • 39:12

    not not the cause i don't know enough

  • 39:14

    about what she does

  • 39:15

    uh outside of the speeches and

  • 39:17

    performances that she's done

  • 39:19

    so i can't speak to none of that but

  • 39:20

    when she speaks it's usually profound

  • 39:23

    and

  • 39:23

    yeah that's right and impactful and and

  • 39:26

    some of us

  • 39:27

    do believe that all of these causes are

  • 39:29

    near and dear to her heart

  • 39:30

    that's where the confusion comes in it's

  • 39:33

    like she ain't

  • 39:34

    she's never come off as a bandwagoner or

  • 39:36

    somebody that's right knowing the trendy

  • 39:37

    politics saying

  • 39:39

    hey this is profitable so this is where

  • 39:40

    i'm at now now she's been on this

  • 39:42

    yeah and i don't know what she did

  • 39:43

    before i knew like yeah and i i think

  • 39:46

    that's a lot of things

  • 39:48

    i mean i think that's something that a

  • 39:49

    lot of people also have a problem with

  • 39:51

    i didn't know you before this so because

  • 39:54

    you're now

  • 39:55

    jump you jumped out in the forefront you

  • 39:57

    know you you're screaming it at the top

  • 39:59

    of your lungs and you've become

  • 40:01

    sort of a a face of it now you don't

  • 40:04

    deserve that because

  • 40:05

    who were you before this so it almost

  • 40:07

    comes off as ingenuine but i disagree

  • 40:09

    with that i disagree with that entirely

  • 40:10

    too

  • 40:10

    i think as many people as we can get out

  • 40:12

    there fighting and saying you know

  • 40:13

    bringing attention to something

  • 40:15

    welcome them in exactly right that's

  • 40:16

    there's no time to be sitting there

  • 40:17

    saying oh yo you wasn't with us

  • 40:19

    seven years ago so your voice your

  • 40:21

    opinion your voice your stance doesn't

  • 40:22

    matter now yeah like nah man

  • 40:24

    we need everybody on board to pick and

  • 40:27

    choose i feel like they throw the

  • 40:28

    performative label on things sometimes

  • 40:31

    and it's like sometimes it's okay to be

  • 40:34

    it's not okay to be performative in the

  • 40:36

    actual definition of it but like

  • 40:39

    she's a performer she does vocal

  • 40:40

    performances like

  • 40:42

    i don't care maybe what she's doing

  • 40:44

    otherwise if she's adding to

  • 40:45

    the cause she's continuing the

  • 40:47

    conversation like you're saying she's

  • 40:49

    bringing more attention to something

  • 40:50

    that needs a lot of

  • 40:52

    attention so it don't matter what you've

  • 40:54

    done before that if you're using

  • 40:56

    or built a platform to bring it

  • 40:59

    attention to this that we need everybody

  • 41:01

    looking at

  • 41:02

    and if you don't want to you know you

  • 41:04

    you it's almost like you can't hate that

  • 41:06

    it's important to know that it wasn't

  • 41:08

    just heard it was called out uh

  • 41:09

    that called out uh benjamin crump the

  • 41:11

    attorney uh a few people that are just

  • 41:14

    involved in some of the more high

  • 41:15

    profile cases that hit the news

  • 41:17

    okay is there anything factual or

  • 41:21

    substantial to warrant a cancellation of

  • 41:24

    her

  • 41:25

    not that i've seen if i lost a child it

  • 41:27

    doesn't need to be for me

  • 41:29

    but uh and i'm agreeing like with

  • 41:31

    everything y'all saying but it's just

  • 41:32

    crazy to me because you're not going to

  • 41:34

    know somebody until you know

  • 41:36

    like we didn't know her because it

  • 41:38

    wasn't called for at the time

  • 41:40

    none of that matters if i lost a child

  • 41:42

    to me

  • 41:43

    but i lost my child it's not about logic

  • 41:46

    it's not about what's justifiable

  • 41:48

    understandable where you've been your

  • 41:50

    reputation

  • 41:50

    how this affects things the people you

  • 41:52

    are lobbying together

  • 41:54

    i lost my child right i lost my child

  • 41:56

    nothing is happening out there can bring

  • 41:58

    my child back

  • 41:59

    and just the mere utterance of his of

  • 42:02

    the name

  • 42:03

    brings me back to a dark place so it's

  • 42:06

    cool perspective is important while

  • 42:07

    y'all

  • 42:08

    out there championing champion and

  • 42:09

    championing when i hear

  • 42:11

    any of that i get brought to a dark

  • 42:13

    place

  • 42:14

    maybe it's best for me if i don't ever

  • 42:17

    get to hear that

  • 42:18

    got it right right i get that and when

  • 42:20

    you say you lost a child you're speaking

  • 42:22

    to samira rice

  • 42:24

    the mother of tamir rice right yes okay

  • 42:26

    all right official statement from samir

  • 42:27

    rice mother of tamir rice and lisa

  • 42:29

    simpson mother of richard richer

  • 42:32

    tamika mallory sean king benjamin crump

  • 42:34

    lee merritt patrice cullers it's just a

  • 42:36

    long list of names

  • 42:38

    moline abdullah and the black lives

  • 42:40

    matter global network need to step down

  • 42:42

    stand back and stop monopolizing and

  • 42:44

    capitalizing our fight for justice and

  • 42:45

    human rights

  • 42:46

    we never hired them to be

  • 42:47

    representatives in this fight for

  • 42:49

    justice

  • 42:50

    uh fight for justice for our dead loved

  • 42:52

    ones murdered by the police

  • 42:54

    the activists have uh have events in our

  • 42:56

    cities

  • 42:57

    and have not given us anything

  • 42:58

    substantial for using our loved ones

  • 43:00

    images and names on their flyers

  • 43:02

    the attorneys in our fight are also

  • 43:04

    misleading the impacted families

  • 43:06

    in the case of tamir rice it was even

  • 43:07

    questionable as to whether benjamin

  • 43:09

    crump knew the

  • 43:10

    laws in depth i don't want to read this

  • 43:12

    because it's messy

  • 43:13

    yeah but but you can see you can see the

  • 43:16

    vibe

  • 43:17

    of where that's going yes i have my

  • 43:19

    thoughts on it

  • 43:20

    for sure because i i've never lost a

  • 43:24

    child so i can't speak from that

  • 43:25

    perspective

  • 43:27

    but when it says that i've never had a

  • 43:28

    child i've never had a job

  • 43:30

    i've never had a child i can't speak to

  • 43:32

    being a parent

  • 43:33

    either i can't speak to even being a

  • 43:34

    parent but i could imagine

  • 43:37

    no no no yeah i'm not kidding y'all

  • 43:39

    don't even let me finish go ahead i'm

  • 43:40

    not saying i can imagine losing a child

  • 43:42

    i'm not saying that

  • 43:44

    i can imagine wanting somebody to bring

  • 43:47

    light to a situation that maybe i feel

  • 43:51

    needs to be brought light to so

  • 43:54

    if let's say i lose a dog if i lose a

  • 43:56

    dog

  • 43:57

    and my neighbor is helping me plaster

  • 44:00

    the message of hey i lost whatever i

  • 44:01

    lost this

  • 44:03

    wouldn't that be not enough but wouldn't

  • 44:06

    that help

  • 44:06

    is that not that that doesn't to me it

  • 44:08

    doesn't seem like it's a hindrance it

  • 44:09

    sounds like the concern is that they're

  • 44:10

    taking money and not giving any back too

  • 44:12

    so

  • 44:12

    it sounds like money let me respond that

  • 44:14

    likeness that that would that would help

  • 44:16

    if me the person that lost the child

  • 44:18

    feels that that's helpful

  • 44:20

    got it yeah that's the perspective thing

  • 44:22

    because when you hear from a

  • 44:23

    parent standpoint you go all right um if

  • 44:26

    you're not you know

  • 44:27

    informing me about what's actually

  • 44:28

    happening on a day-to-day thing i'm cool

  • 44:30

    yeah if i don't feel good if i don't

  • 44:32

    feel it's helpful then it's harmful and

  • 44:34

    it's hurtful

  • 44:35

    got it and then see you profiting off of

  • 44:37

    it yeah that [ __ ] makes it my

  • 44:39

    decision to make and maybe she don't

  • 44:42

    want her her son's name

  • 44:44

    attached to anything and that's okay

  • 44:46

    that's a different conversation

  • 44:47

    i'm just thinking from the point of she

  • 44:49

    wasn't given the opportunity

  • 44:51

    to even say and that's what it sounds

  • 44:53

    like from this here yeah we wouldn't

  • 44:54

    even give an

  • 44:54

    opportunity to say yeah we want to stand

  • 44:57

    with you yes use my son's name on this

  • 44:59

    right here this is

  • 44:59

    this is what i did this is not the same

  • 45:01

    point at all but here's an

  • 45:03

    example for me i lost both my dogs in

  • 45:05

    2018.

  • 45:06

    some people know that that had a huge

  • 45:08

    effect on me some people don't

  • 45:09

    now now i was with you now

  • 45:12

    you're with me when i was with you um

  • 45:16

    that's when i was going to your house

  • 45:17

    every day and then we was actually in

  • 45:19

    your car

  • 45:20

    and i want to say it was harlem it was

  • 45:24

    harlem that we dropped off at the vet

  • 45:25

    and you found out the news and me and

  • 45:28

    you was in the car just

  • 45:29

    and i saw how that affected you oh you

  • 45:31

    don't remember that bro

  • 45:33

    you was crying like and and not even to

  • 45:35

    make joke of it but

  • 45:36

    it looked like a love of hip-hop scene

  • 45:38

    like the way that your the tears were

  • 45:39

    coming down your eyes are like oh

  • 45:40

    [ __ ] i just remember this no i was with

  • 45:44

    joe when he found out the news

  • 45:46

    like oh [ __ ] it's it's so i was driving

  • 45:48

    this before so

  • 45:49

    this is when i was your driver

  • 45:52

    and you hated my drive this is when i

  • 45:55

    was your driver yeah i'll say ball drop

  • 45:57

    real quick

  • 45:57

    it was just me and you in the car and

  • 45:59

    i'm like damn can i just say

  • 46:00

    that network head joe hates how some of

  • 46:04

    these sentences

  • 46:05

    come out i was driving with you bro

  • 46:09

    i don't remember you being the driver

  • 46:11

    before

  • 46:12

    but cool i'll roll um but but my point

  • 46:15

    in that

  • 46:16

    is i lost both my dogs in 2018 you were

  • 46:18

    there awesome

  • 46:19

    right today sometimes people be like

  • 46:21

    they don't know that

  • 46:22

    hey man well how's your dogs right

  • 46:25

    that's [ __ ] up and now they both died

  • 46:28

    in 2018.

  • 46:29

    it's oh [ __ ] i'm sorry he had no idea

  • 46:33

    well yeah i mean it's fine there's no

  • 46:35

    offense but if you don't have any idea

  • 46:37

    how would you have any idea right now

  • 46:39

    imagine that if i lost a child

  • 46:41

    right if i lost a child and did what i

  • 46:43

    had to do to get whole with that

  • 46:45

    which i can't even imagine what that

  • 46:47

    tastes i don't think that you ever get

  • 46:48

    home you can't

  • 46:49

    yeah and then every time i turn the tv

  • 46:51

    on or pick up the phone on social media

  • 46:53

    i have to see my child's name from

  • 46:55

    people that haven't

  • 46:56

    communicated with me at all yeah i could

  • 46:58

    see a situation where i'm i'm upset by

  • 47:00

    this

  • 47:00

    yeah that's actually what that's what

  • 47:02

    pop smokes mom said she said it's

  • 47:03

    difficult for her to you know digest

  • 47:04

    music from him or see anything from him

  • 47:07

    biggie's mom said

  • 47:08

    exactly but us as fans it's hard for us

  • 47:10

    to really you know see that but it's

  • 47:11

    like from the inside looking in that

  • 47:12

    [ __ ] is hard

  • 47:13

    yeah i agree you guys will get me

  • 47:15

    depressed i'm gonna move on um

  • 47:18

    if i didn't think the grammys were

  • 47:19

    rigged

  • 47:21

    at all when they aired they are

  • 47:25

    yeah but see that's the thing about my

  • 47:26

    experience watching grammys that night

  • 47:28

    parks

  • 47:28

    i felt bad about having a podcast and

  • 47:31

    coming in here to give my opinion on all

  • 47:33

    these takes

  • 47:33

    i felt horrible watching the grammys

  • 47:36

    that night i said oh

  • 47:38

    [ __ ] y'all this was never for me

  • 47:41

    it was never for me it was it's always

  • 47:43

    been for

  • 47:44

    the casual fan that don't really know to

  • 47:47

    drive in the cells

  • 47:49

    right it's not for me to use my industry

  • 47:51

    brain

  • 47:52

    to now take it and go dive into

  • 47:56

    the points because it's not what this is

  • 47:58

    for

  • 47:59

    right all these artists i don't listen

  • 48:01

    to when they're in commercial

  • 48:03

    yeah that's what they're doing and it's

  • 48:04

    working i gotta i'm so i like the people

  • 48:07

    that the commercial is for today

  • 48:08

    got it now how i feel about the grammys

  • 48:11

    is the same

  • 48:12

    i don't deem to get my approval rating

  • 48:15

    from anywhere else like yeah that's

  • 48:17

    inside of me

  • 48:18

    but to the people that do like roddy

  • 48:20

    rich was going crazy

  • 48:21

    afterward he was saying yo man he didn't

  • 48:25

    name kanye but kanye's the only one who

  • 48:26

    pissed in the grammy

  • 48:28

    he said yo you pissed in a grammy man

  • 48:29

    i'm nominated for six of them how am i

  • 48:31

    supposed to feel what do that do to my

  • 48:32

    accomplishments well what does it do

  • 48:35

    righty rich

  • 48:37

    i can't expect you to know you to view

  • 48:39

    things the way kanye feels it you as a

  • 48:41

    first time grammy guy in kanye toward

  • 48:43

    the end tail end of his career

  • 48:44

    right as one of the richest men in

  • 48:46

    america y'all would view it differently

  • 48:48

    kanye pissed in the grammy [ __ ] drake

  • 48:50

    ate some cereal or some [ __ ] out the

  • 48:51

    grammy

  • 48:52

    whole boycott of the grant like when you

  • 48:55

    when you're on that you own that

  • 48:57

    that's not for the new artist to be on

  • 48:59

    yeah so

  • 49:00

    you're not at that level but if i didn't

  • 49:02

    think that it was rigged at any point

  • 49:05

    they ended the night confirming to me

  • 49:08

    that it was rick

  • 49:11

    billy eilish wins an award oh yeah

  • 49:14

    i don't know anything about billy eilish

  • 49:15

    or or her music

  • 49:17

    i never understood popular i understood

  • 49:19

    her winning

  • 49:20

    was it a year ago or two years ago yeah

  • 49:22

    last year because she had a big album

  • 49:23

    and it was a good album like i said she

  • 49:24

    was something that i went back to but

  • 49:26

    she was everywhere

  • 49:27

    she won the big one right she's having

  • 49:28

    she won't recognize billy eilish comes

  • 49:30

    up for the big one

  • 49:31

    record of the year and she spends her

  • 49:33

    whole time

  • 49:34

    it just came off a little odd all of

  • 49:36

    that yo meg is the one

  • 49:38

    meg i listened to every single day this

  • 49:41

    should have been

  • 49:42

    meg this should have been yours i'm

  • 49:43

    giving it to you yeah

  • 49:45

    that's why the biggest moment of the

  • 49:47

    grammys which is you know that's the big

  • 49:48

    award

  • 49:49

    i'm going to use that to throw all the

  • 49:52

    spotlight on

  • 49:53

    you and that's why and that's why wait a

  • 49:55

    minute and that's why

  • 49:57

    don't i don't care about what roc nation

  • 49:58

    did because there were some artists to

  • 50:01

    come up there and say

  • 50:03

    it's you it's not me it's you joe

  • 50:06

    thought that that speech was a little

  • 50:08

    off but i didn't understand why until

  • 50:10

    i'm watching the news

  • 50:12

    and they say that the song that she won

  • 50:13

    for is a song that's not out

  • 50:16

    it's a song that's not released it's a

  • 50:18

    song that is attached

  • 50:19

    to a soundtrack of a movie that should

  • 50:22

    have been released in october

  • 50:24

    but because of the pandemic it was not

  • 50:27

    how did you win

  • 50:28

    see i didn't know that i didn't know

  • 50:29

    that i didn't know the soundtrack i knew

  • 50:31

    it was on the soundtrack i thought it

  • 50:32

    was

  • 50:32

    something that came out though that's

  • 50:33

    crazy it's not even that's nuts that's

  • 50:35

    insane

  • 50:36

    that is not how did you win it maybe it

  • 50:38

    was just that good of a record

  • 50:40

    maybe it was just that good no one heard

  • 50:42

    it right

  • 50:44

    no that's nuts let me explain we all us

  • 50:48

    artists

  • 50:49

    all the records are good before they

  • 50:50

    come out

  • 50:54

    tell me one record that ain't good

  • 50:56

    before i come out all of us think all

  • 50:58

    this [ __ ] is thriller

  • 51:00

    well i wasn't speaking i don't think it

  • 51:01

    was that good of a record

  • 51:03

    but you don't know because it didn't

  • 51:06

    come out

  • 51:07

    the song like right now the song still

  • 51:10

    is not out

  • 51:11

    there

  • 51:14

    listen to the song nowhere it has to be

  • 51:16

    out at this point but i don't think she

  • 51:18

    deserves it

  • 51:18

    it was released as a single on november

  • 51:21

    13th 2019. oh that's mad time for the

  • 51:23

    win

  • 51:23

    oh then if if you say that then you

  • 51:25

    don't understand submissions

  • 51:27

    i'm supposed to say 2019. you don't

  • 51:29

    unders like

  • 51:30

    no wait was at least when 2019 november

  • 51:34

    something that's why uh that's that's

  • 51:35

    that's that's you know the grammys

  • 51:38

    that's not that's not what they reported

  • 51:39

    on the news i don't know well we can

  • 51:41

    always

  • 51:42

    just saying this wrong we can google it

  • 51:43

    we can check it out i'm looking at the

  • 51:45

    uh wikipedia right now but even if they

  • 51:47

    rigged it i don't care

  • 51:49

    right i don't care like i was happy

  • 51:52

    about the whole ordeal

  • 51:53

    all of it i was and it was a good watch

  • 51:56

    i wouldn't be mad if they returned next

  • 51:58

    year doing it in a similar fashion

  • 52:01

    they they did it for twitter they did it

  • 52:03

    for the internet it seemed like

  • 52:05

    um trevor no i wasn't mad at i like

  • 52:07

    trevor i'm not mad at that

  • 52:09

    man i got i got a question about that

  • 52:10

    though uh trevor noah

  • 52:12

    and i i don't follow him enough to know

  • 52:14

    is that how he really looks

  • 52:15

    yeah like the weekend okay yeah i just

  • 52:18

    wanted to like the weekend okay well you

  • 52:19

    used to have a uh

  • 52:22

    no well i just asked that because

  • 52:26

    i found it when when i watched the

  • 52:27

    grammys and i found it kind of

  • 52:30

    funny to me i'm like oh they was going

  • 52:31

    to get the weekend here regardless okay

  • 52:32

    you're not going to show up we're going

  • 52:33

    to bring our own weekend

  • 52:34

    and that's what it looked like to me he

  • 52:36

    got the same mustache the same look

  • 52:38

    i'm like from a distance that looks like

  • 52:40

    the weekend so we're going to we're

  • 52:41

    going to get him here one way or another

  • 52:43

    time to ask that question as a comedian

  • 52:46

    yeah so that was intentional then

  • 52:48

    okay no no no no he's he's been growing

  • 52:50

    his hair out like this yeah

  • 52:51

    yeah since the quarantine yeah he's a

  • 52:53

    star boy

  • 52:55

    he's a star he's been a star yeah i want

  • 52:57

    to try to be funny because i i guess i

  • 52:58

    don't know enough about every time you

  • 53:00

    say that something funny comes out of

  • 53:01

    your mouth

  • 53:02

    it's like when people say no disrespect

  • 53:04

    disrespect immediately follows

  • 53:06

    yeah got it so i don't want to misplace

  • 53:08

    any anger and i'm going to leave this

  • 53:09

    grammy conversation in a couple of

  • 53:11

    seconds but let me just rap for some

  • 53:12

    people right quick

  • 53:14

    as i'm watching the dojo cat performance

  • 53:16

    that she bodied

  • 53:17

    along with the video that she dropped to

  • 53:19

    the meme that i didn't know where that

  • 53:21

    sexy ass beat came from all of that was

  • 53:23

    great she's been killing

  • 53:25

    right but she gets up there and at the

  • 53:27

    end of one of her verses the last four

  • 53:29

    bars was

  • 53:30

    for me reminiscent of nicki minaj you

  • 53:32

    hit it right on the head bro

  • 53:33

    yeah she has a she uh when she raps she

  • 53:35

    has some nikki she doesn't hide it

  • 53:37

    she doesn't hide it she says that

  • 53:38

    nicki's an inspiration to her is one of

  • 53:40

    the greatest

  • 53:40

    ever it was awesome right and when she

  • 53:43

    said that i immediately thought of nas

  • 53:44

    winning his grammy after

  • 53:46

    x amount of nominations and the grammys

  • 53:49

    doing the right thing

  • 53:50

    and then i thought about all the

  • 53:53

    confirmation that we as

  • 53:54

    artists get from the grammys when we're

  • 53:56

    nominated or deemed a winner

  • 53:59

    and nicki minaj popped in my head of

  • 54:01

    course

  • 54:03

    because it's like okay

  • 54:07

    even if you played a game where you want

  • 54:09

    to win the grammy because your label

  • 54:11

    spent

  • 54:11

    x amount of dollars and your album did x

  • 54:14

    amount of platinum so

  • 54:15

    you should win so your rates can go up

  • 54:17

    if it says grammy nominated blah blah

  • 54:19

    blah

  • 54:19

    blah in the event that that doesn't

  • 54:21

    happen who the [ __ ] are y'all to say

  • 54:23

    that y'all

  • 54:24

    are the reason why it does your thinking

  • 54:26

    is why it doesn't happen right like

  • 54:27

    nas winning under these circumstances

  • 54:30

    all of these nominations and years later

  • 54:32

    for me as a hip-hop

  • 54:34

    enthusiast it's funny to me it's funny

  • 54:37

    nikki having inspired so many of the

  • 54:40

    younger women that are dominating if you

  • 54:42

    ask joe i think women will continue to

  • 54:44

    dominate for the foreseeable future

  • 54:47

    i think some credence has to go into

  • 54:49

    that and you have to acknowledge

  • 54:51

    that you don't see the trend they don't

  • 54:54

    respect queens

  • 54:56

    um and when he says queens he means the

  • 54:59

    girl the borrower yeah

  • 55:01

    okay you think i've ever tried no i was

  • 55:02

    confused when he said that but the first

  • 55:04

    time i like when he said that to me in a

  • 55:06

    private conversation i was confused

  • 55:07

    that's all

  • 55:09

    i might have something that slow i might

  • 55:11

    be it might be the slow frame i'll tell

  • 55:12

    you guys one of the ones who boycotted

  • 55:14

    years back too okay if i'm not mistaken

  • 55:18

    i read there was a list of like everyone

  • 55:20

    all the hip hop acts that who at

  • 55:21

    some point boycotted the grammys and i

  • 55:23

    believe he was on there nicki minaj

  • 55:25

    needs her flowers

  • 55:26

    sure whoever whoever the grammy board is

  • 55:30

    whoever's on there y'all are not the

  • 55:32

    ones that get to determine

  • 55:34

    that nicki minaj and all of her impact

  • 55:37

    and influence

  • 55:38

    don't get to win an award i'm sorry

  • 55:41

    i'm done with those days y'all are not

  • 55:44

    the [ __ ]

  • 55:46

    gatekeepers the barriers of entry y'all

  • 55:49

    and that any of that what she did

  • 55:51

    she did that and now we're at a place

  • 55:54

    where we have to acknowledge the

  • 55:56

    not impersonators but the people who

  • 55:58

    were inspired

  • 55:59

    by that act it's the same thing like

  • 56:02

    when some of these people win i see the

  • 56:04

    drake influence

  • 56:05

    there call me a dick rider who knows

  • 56:08

    but nikki is in that same boat i don't

  • 56:10

    think too many more years need to go by

  • 56:12

    where she is not awarded for efforts

  • 56:14

    that's how i felt

  • 56:15

    watching dozier cat and some of the

  • 56:18

    winners there

  • 56:18

    and you know what really pisses me off

  • 56:20

    about like kind of what you're saying

  • 56:22

    there

  • 56:23

    god forbid something were to happen to

  • 56:25

    nikki

  • 56:27

    flowers galore flowers exactly then

  • 56:30

    everyone wants to come out then it's

  • 56:31

    lifetime achievement and it's every

  • 56:32

    award every award show is going to give

  • 56:34

    you

  • 56:35

    every award imaginable

  • 56:38

    what nothing changed in a year it's not

  • 56:40

    like like your contributions change your

  • 56:42

    music change your impact change

  • 56:43

    nothing's changed in that top from this

  • 56:45

    award show to the next one

  • 56:47

    except you're not here to stand up there

  • 56:49

    and give your accepted speech that's the

  • 56:51

    only thing that changed but now you get

  • 56:53

    honored for everything

  • 56:54

    her dna was all over this award show

  • 56:57

    right

  • 56:58

    like it's not just a big these

  • 56:59

    tricksters are songs

  • 57:01

    it's her dna like and it's funny you say

  • 57:02

    that because i said the same thing

  • 57:04

    on my podcast it's like yo nicki minaj

  • 57:07

    appreciation

  • 57:08

    should be a thing because none of this

  • 57:11

    even looks like this without her

  • 57:13

    right and i prefaced it with i'm young i

  • 57:16

    know i'm the young guy i didn't live

  • 57:17

    through the little kim era

  • 57:19

    i didn't live through foxy brown i

  • 57:21

    didn't see that so for me

  • 57:22

    nicki minaj was the that that go-to

  • 57:25

    female rapper she took what

  • 57:28

    being that you weren't you're like i

  • 57:30

    wasn't there i wasn't there okay

  • 57:32

    they set the the the foundation she

  • 57:35

    built the [ __ ] castle on top of

  • 57:37

    foundation she showed how to be

  • 57:44

    but she doesn't get appreciated for it

  • 57:46

    so i'm glad that joe mentioned it gets

  • 57:48

    me like

  • 57:48

    because then the second someone mentions

  • 57:50

    her the argument comes in

  • 57:52

    oh yeah she was inspired by kim like so

  • 57:54

    you're still going to jump over her

  • 57:55

    you'll give the you'll give the flowers

  • 57:57

    to the people before her

  • 57:59

    and the people after her but but not her

  • 58:01

    you know what's [ __ ] up about that

  • 58:03

    because the grammys isn't going to say

  • 58:05

    little kim deserves the flowers right

  • 58:07

    they're not gonna say that

  • 58:09

    they're never gonna mention lil kim in

  • 58:11

    that regard

  • 58:12

    but then they need they they they don't

  • 58:15

    acknowledge her for the pop star either

  • 58:17

    and we don't really acknowledge her for

  • 58:20

    that um

  • 58:21

    what she's done in the same breath why

  • 58:23

    are we at lack of a

  • 58:25

    lack of acknowledgement did the grammys

  • 58:28

    do the

  • 58:29

    rest in peace television board to all

  • 58:31

    the people that passed it

  • 58:32

    they did yeah they they

  • 58:40

    doom was there got it i wish they would

  • 58:42

    throw him fred in but i guess i get it

  • 58:44

    he wasn't on a mainstream thing but that

  • 58:46

    would have been a nice culture

  • 58:48

    yeah he should have been there but they

  • 58:50

    you know

  • 58:51

    they said oh we also have a list of a

  • 58:53

    thousand other people on the website you

  • 58:54

    can go check that out

  • 58:56

    which i thought was kind of funny i

  • 58:57

    don't like that i don't like that i

  • 58:58

    don't like that recipe's freddie gothson

  • 59:00

    absolutely rest in peace

  • 59:08

    so maybe that's why they throw it on the

  • 59:09

    website because there was so much

  • 59:11

    depth in the last year and i'm not even

  • 59:13

    just talking hip-hop yeah

  • 59:15

    music all music it's a lot yeah it was a

  • 59:17

    lot of depth last year so i i

  • 59:19

    i'll cut them some slack yeah that they

  • 59:21

    said hey go to this website and check

  • 59:23

    out

  • 59:23

    all the people that passed away because

  • 59:25

    we're just going to put some of the

  • 59:26

    notable or more known people here

  • 59:28

    on you know while they got the show one

  • 59:30

    thing i thought about with the grammys

  • 59:32

    too is

  • 59:32

    you know the the age-old discussion is

  • 59:34

    we got to make our own [ __ ] we got to

  • 59:36

    make our own [ __ ]

  • 59:37

    but we have some of our own [ __ ] in the

  • 59:39

    the bt hip-hop awards the bt

  • 59:41

    uh podcast words the soul uh uh

  • 59:45

    soldiering

  • 59:46

    awards and i think that we need to just

  • 59:49

    also put stock in that the same way

  • 59:51

    because sometimes it feels like oh well

  • 59:53

    it's just a little bt award or something

  • 59:54

    like that and that's not cool either

  • 59:56

    like we should we should put them on the

  • 59:57

    same pedestal as we put the grammys on

  • 1:00:00

    as

  • 1:00:01

    opposed to saying oh man we gotta start

  • 1:00:03

    our own [ __ ] we got

  • 1:00:04

    our own grammys we they kind of exist

  • 1:00:07

    and we just don't give them enough

  • 1:00:08

    credit

  • 1:00:08

    in my opinion it's it's it's it's

  • 1:00:11

    because we're still looking for

  • 1:00:12

    acceptance outside of our own that's

  • 1:00:14

    really what it all boils down to

  • 1:00:16

    like the bet awards is just us the

  • 1:00:18

    grammys is uh

  • 1:00:19

    it's them and us so we want to be

  • 1:00:22

    accepted outside of our own well the bbt

  • 1:00:25

    awards is not just us

  • 1:00:27

    viacom

  • 1:00:30

    this is true y'all it's never just

  • 1:00:31

    enough anywhere it's not yeah it's

  • 1:00:33

    really not it's really not very good

  • 1:00:34

    but that's the point i had to learn as a

  • 1:00:36

    creator like throughout my career in

  • 1:00:38

    hindsight i'm looking at the

  • 1:00:40

    the road traveled and i'm like all right

  • 1:00:43

    man when they

  • 1:00:44

    get to trying to rob me or they get to

  • 1:00:46

    trying to scam me or to get to trying to

  • 1:00:48

    might not

  • 1:00:49

    monetize something that they didn't

  • 1:00:50

    participate in

  • 1:00:52

    my advantage is as a creator i can go

  • 1:00:54

    somewhere else

  • 1:00:55

    and create something they can't so they

  • 1:00:57

    won't know what to see

  • 1:00:59

    when i create it the downfall in that is

  • 1:01:02

    that as a creator anywhere that you go

  • 1:01:04

    to create something those people are

  • 1:01:06

    coming

  • 1:01:07

    yeah you're not going to escape them so

  • 1:01:10

    you better learn how to coexist

  • 1:01:13

    or live with it and that's the truth of

  • 1:01:16

    the matter

  • 1:01:17

    um i know we want to talk about new

  • 1:01:18

    music because there is new music that

  • 1:01:21

    came out even if i didn't hear it but

  • 1:01:22

    before we get to that we were talking

  • 1:01:24

    about nikki i want to stay on

  • 1:01:25

    female rappers for a quick second this

  • 1:01:28

    week

  • 1:01:29

    i saw uh

  • 1:01:32

    justin la's justin l.a

  • 1:01:44

    with sweetie and uh and prince and puff

  • 1:01:47

    sunflowers i saw a couple

  • 1:01:48

    it's justin justin i mean i'm sorry

  • 1:01:50

    justin cohen justin

  • 1:01:52

    justin justin justin i'm sorry i'm sorry

  • 1:01:54

    i'm sorry yeah

  • 1:01:55

    justin just in la boy

  • 1:01:59

    okay that group i'll take it and sweetie

  • 1:02:03

    right is it sweetie all right is she

  • 1:02:06

    okay in terms of what i just like to

  • 1:02:08

    check i mean she looks like okay in the

  • 1:02:09

    video every time i see it she looks

  • 1:02:11

    pretty good important that you know

  • 1:02:12

    you said no right just in general you

  • 1:02:14

    know yeah

  • 1:02:16

    anyway new music music

  • 1:02:32

    so i'm not mad at it benny the butcher

  • 1:02:35

    the plugs i met two

  • 1:02:36

    out now in your phones right now uh he's

  • 1:02:38

    been

  • 1:02:39

    working on this for a while promoting

  • 1:02:40

    this for a while mm-hmm uh i did get a

  • 1:02:43

    chance to listen to a little bit of it

  • 1:02:44

    yeah i heard the whole thing it's been i

  • 1:02:46

    suppose

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    and this is coming from anybody who

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    knows me no i do not

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    i'm i'm not team griselda like everybody

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    else

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    really you know i have my own stance

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    when it comes to them you can't sit in

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    the ice seat and say that man

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    you mean more expensive i mean

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    i'm just saying yes

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    that's that's more you know that's the

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    monster that's going to be funny

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    yeah uh why not though

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    um i i i do think benny and

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    conway can rap i also say that

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    i've heard too much of the exact same

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    thing from them for too long

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    so the it's the production you're

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    waiting to change it's everything so

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    you whatever you're giving me this

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    before what if that's just this sound

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    and that's where we have with it and

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    that's fine

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    oh it's not for me it's not for you okay

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    which is why i don't listen you know

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    because you want to see them do trap

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    nah i don't want to see them do trap

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    like i said earlier today are you like a

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    pop type dude right

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    no i said earlier today yeah i count

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    some trap joints though i'd pay proud to

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    pay

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    proud to pay prices which was you know

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    nipsey's uh thing

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    to hear benny over heat makers a whole

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    project i like that

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    shut up i would joe why you

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    why are you mad at that that's real [ __ ]

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    though i'm not mad at that though

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    what what's the problem with that i

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    don't like the same sound that i hear i

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    don't like derringer beats i don't like

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    hearing them over alchemist beats

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    i don't like freddie gibbs over

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    alchemist beasts i don't like royce over

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    these beasts like

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    i don't know what i don't know about it

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    i don't like that i hate that sound to

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    me and uh me and parks we've had this

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    talk

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    in the past that sound to me i jokingly

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    call it the boom boombap

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    it's a joke i know it's not the

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    traditional boombap sound this is more

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    boombap in a way

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    i know the sound to me is that

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    late 90s gritty new york era sound

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    okay i don't like that i don't want it

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    i'm not a fan of

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    premiere production for example you know

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    you have to get out

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    you can't wish them all can you come on

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    what i'm just saying like so that was my

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    that was my knock against them

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    it worked for them so by all means right

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    you know look at

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    gibbs and alchemists got nominated for

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    grammy so i'm not saying that it's whack

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    right it's not for me i want i was a

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    gibbs fan when he was rapping over the

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    trap beats

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    do you like him over mad lib no okay no

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    so he really just doesn't like that

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    sound yeah i don't like that

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    you don't like the sound so it's not

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    benny no it's not the sound

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    i've heard i have i have a project in my

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    phone that i put together called

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    uh benny the butcher guest appearances

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    and it's every feature that he's ever

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    done

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    outside of the griselda in-house and

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    he's killed it like this [ __ ] is fire

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    so you want i like different you want to

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    hear him over like mustard

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    hell no hell no

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    [Music]

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    but now it's funny that you mentioned a

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    uh production thing because i thought

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    the same thing too

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    his last project that he did with hit

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    boy yeah that's still in my rotation

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    like i think hip boy kind of set himself

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    apart

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    when i listen to this because i don't

  • 1:06:04

    get the same feeling

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    and there's no disrespect and no slight

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    to harry fraud but i don't get that same

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    feeling from the project that he did

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    with hit boy

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    like this song uh plug talk featuring

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    two change from

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    for me it sounded like he was chasing

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    that sound that ice is talking about

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    like he was trying to stay current he

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    was trying to stay in that flow that

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    cadence

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    and for me i was like yo i gotta go back

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    to burning the proof

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    can i reply to that for sure you know he

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    has a drake record in his pocket

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    if he was trying to stay relevant and

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    mainstream

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    i heard it i know but it's not on here

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    so what do you think of that if he if

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    that were his goal

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    why wouldn't he try to drop that i'm

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    pretty sure that he could go ahead and

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    get

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    any type of trap producer to do album

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    with him and i think that's awesome

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    i think drake also was like hey when

  • 1:06:51

    it's time then let's go there

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    i i don't think that's just a benny

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    decision to say hey i'm gonna drop

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    the drake record yeah so maybe he wanted

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    to put it on

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    on on the last project or on this well

  • 1:07:03

    he said he i saw

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    something he said a couple days ago

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    where he said he can't wait to get that

  • 1:07:06

    record yeah that's right and he said

  • 1:07:08

    that

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    he was here obviously that means i want

  • 1:07:11

    this record to come out but for other

  • 1:07:12

    reasons it means you have to wait on a

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    plan

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    right and a team to work around that

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    record so

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    it's a drake record so you know it's too

  • 1:07:19

    big you're not going to put this on the

  • 1:07:20

    plugs i meant

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    to i would assume no yeah put this on i

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    don't know

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    what an industry i mean on a label album

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    or something yeah maybe

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    yeah something somewhere there's a 100

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    okay

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    a bigger marketing plan and [ __ ] and

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    honestly the other thing i'm

  • 1:07:35

    i'm per i'm only speaking for me i'm

  • 1:07:37

    getting tired of the

  • 1:07:40

    rapper one producer albums really i like

  • 1:07:42

    to mix it up

  • 1:07:43

    show me some versatility and that that's

  • 1:07:45

    again that's the thing about these guys

  • 1:07:47

    it's the same thing over and over i've

  • 1:07:50

    heard your story i've heard you like you

  • 1:07:51

    can rap

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    i'm not taking it just kind of his last

  • 1:07:54

    album conway's last album

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