The Nine
Joe Budden Podcast Episode 424, “The Nine,” released March 22, 2021. On this episode: Joe, Parks, and a few Friends of the Show pay their respects to the Marvelous Marvin Hagler (11:00) and Shawn Bradley who recently suffered after a paralyzing bike accident (13:00). The guys discuss music and recap the 63rd Grammy Awards (16:10) with a debate over DaBaby’s pop star status (19:10), a review of Doja Cat’s performance (30:00), SaVon’s Justin Bieber support (36:00). Samaria Rice, mother of Tamir Rice, calls out Tamika Mallory and others of monopolizing racial injustices and using them for clout-chasing and performative purposes (48:00). The guys discuss Justin Laboy (1:11:00), new music (1:19:00), Salt bae antics (1:38:00), Rich the Kid’s LAX arrest (1:43:00), Deshaun Watson’s sexual assault allegations (2:00:00), and the Asian American hate crime murders in Atlanta (2:15:00). Saweetie’s tweets (2:23:00), Kanye West’s billionaire status (2:23:00), ‘Snow Fall’ (2:40:00), and MORE! Sleeper Picks of the Episode Joe | EST Gee - “30 Bopp” Ice | Klass Murda - “Theme Song” (Ft. Benny the Butcher) SaVon | Justin Bieber - “Peaches” (Ft. Daniel Caesar & Giveon) Parks | Charli Baltimore - “Stand Up” (Ft. Ghostface Killah) Alex | Elcamino - “Valentino Quarantine” Full transcript and searchable timestamps below.

In this episode
- 11:00On this episode: Joe, Parks, and a few Friends of the Show pay their respects to the Marvelous Marvin Hagler
- 13:00Shawn Bradley who recently suffered after a paralyzing bike accident
- 16:10The guys discuss music and recap the 63rd Grammy Awards
- 19:10With a debate over DaBaby’s pop star status
- 30:00A review of Doja Cat’s performance
- 36:00SaVon’s Justin Bieber support
- 48:00Samaria Rice, mother of Tamir Rice, calls out Tamika Mallory and others of monopolizing racial injustices and…
- 1:11:00The guys discuss Justin Laboy
- 1:19:00New music
- 1:38:00Salt bae antics
- 1:43:00Rich the Kid’s LAX arrest
- 2:00:00Deshaun Watson’s sexual assault allegations
- 2:15:00The Asian American hate crime murders in Atlanta
- 2:23:00Saweetie’s tweets
- 2:40:00‘Snow Fall’
Joe Budden Podcast Ep. 424 Transcript
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all right go
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no no
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[Music]
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now
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what is this
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[Music]
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yes
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he smoked that so that was my first
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introduction to this gentleman uh
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e-s-t-g
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and yeah it's kind of crazy mic check
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one two one two might check one two one
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two
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microphone check one two what is this
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the jbp
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boys bike to business what is this uh
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episode
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424 welcome to episode 424 i hope this
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mic sounds right i'm hearing something
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funny in the mic
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welcome to episode 424 of the joe budden
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podcast i'm your humble gracious
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grateful and highly favored host joe
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button here with a few of my nearest
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yeah some of y'all's just cool we've got
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e-rab over there parks is here
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savannah's here ice is here corey is
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here
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and alex is here uh
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maul and rory are on vacation they are
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home
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chilling maybe savon will check on them
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shortly
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we will see we'll see how we feel about
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that uh but hopefully everybody as well
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in the meantime how are you guys doing
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i'm great well blessed doing all right
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that cold smacked the [ __ ] out of me
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when i walked outside but other than
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that i'm good today
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yeah for sure today that's privilege
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that's new york privilege it's not that
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it's not that bad
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i went to the videos with a jacket on
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and i looked at you like it was crazy
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while i had my noise like yeah
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it was cold it's cold it's a little
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white white people operate differently
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in the cold
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that's that's that's the first thing i
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said when i saw parks with a t-shirt on
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outside
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i said damn he's really whiteboarding
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right now i'm with you i don't think
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it's that bad out here new york
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is beautiful uh there's no snow there's
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no rain
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it's a vibe out here things are about to
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open up uh they've changed the capacity
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rules for restaurants
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weddings receptions all things of that
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nature broadway is still closed
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[ __ ] feels right out there this is my
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first shot man
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hey you shout out first shot how you
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feeling i feel great man
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first couple days my arm was felt like i
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got hit with a baseball bat or something
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but
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but other than that i'm cool yeah i look
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a little off i don't know tell me about
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it tell me about the experience where
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did you go was it difficult to
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i forgot what the place was called um
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rem had to get it for work so
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uh she she worked that out and then it
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turned out her uncle was kind of running
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the place so he was like you can bring
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people they have like a list i guess if
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you work there
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so we got a list me and me and brian who
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painted the paintings in the back and we
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went and got
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got some vaxxes johnson and johnson uh
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moderna
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madeira one yeah okay all right
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and and um and ice before we started
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recording was talking about
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uh the vaccination process and how he's
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excited to go get it yeah man i'm trying
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to be back right
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right yeah
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i'm not eligible in in jersey for
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another 10 days
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so i got to wait till you're not like a
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um essential worker
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no no well yeah but not in not it's just
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tears obviously so no
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[Music]
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uh
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okay so uh does anyone want to talk
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about rest in peace marvin hagler first
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and foremost
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uh that was disturbing but even more so
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was the report that
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uh he died over vacs uh vaccination
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complications oh is that so
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damn that's what it that's what it said
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and
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i didn't see many reports on it was that
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official or was that like a youtube
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report
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uh i didn't get that from youtube well
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his wife is talking on the new york post
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oh okay saying she said that he didn't
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die
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after the cover 19 vaccine oh there you
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go [ __ ]
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and that's his wife ah damn it sorry
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antibiotics
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oh we had a conspiracy theory oh damn it
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incredible source too fine sorry i think
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you can take your word for that
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all right fine that's the rest in peace
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tomorrow
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what else what else what else is going
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on real quick sean bradley uh
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not rest in peace but just tragedy while
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we were there while he was there
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i don't like that so many people thought
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of me during that news breakdown i
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thought of you
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i definitely that's just foolishness
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uh what happened with uh sean bradley a
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bike accident paralyzed oh my god
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yeah tragic horrible story
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part of the reason why i'm petrified
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about bikes if i'm
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being honest like not because the bike
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is so scary even though to me it
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is maybe i'm a chump i don't feel like
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people on the road respect the bikers
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yeah like if i'm in a vehicle
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i might not really respect the guy
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that's on the side of me with a helmet
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definitely not in the tri-state and that
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could be catastrophic i'm thinking a
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bike like a motorcycle
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bicycle yeah i took a bad spill on a
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bike once and that's why i'm terrified
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of bikes
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any seven six childhood did y'all ride
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bikes no i rode bikes a lot this is i
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was
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i was 20 i was probably 22 23 i was
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living in chicago and i uh i had like a
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shirt around my necks it was a summer
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and it fell into the wheel
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and i went face first into the pavement
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lost a couple teeth
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wow damn yeah so person said i have not
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ridden a bike
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were you this tall when it happened oh
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like i was okay
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uh this was probably 2007 not that long
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ago
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damn i'm not mad at a bicycle i'm not
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talking about a bicycle
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as far as a motorcycle that's what i
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thought i know
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too many people that fell
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and landed underneath the muffler of a
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car
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and then was right back on the bike a
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few months later i'm not that brave
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i've always wanted a motorcycle too but
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yeah all right
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this summer to buy a motorcycle but i'm
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not getting a sport bike i'm getting a
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cruiser i can't do a sport bike because
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i know me
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mm-hmm the dash say 200 i'm gonna try to
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see if as close as i can get to that 200
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yeah you have a new baby
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exactly
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i did the rebels a lot this summer that
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was fun because they only go about 25
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miles an hour so that's cool i get a
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slingshot though
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which is classified as a bike but it's
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not fun listen i am not letting parks
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and ice geek me out this entire episode
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get ready because maul and rory are not
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here
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you you two are into all of this gadget
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wiry in ox
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output oxford whatever
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it's a thunderbolt yeah i don't want to
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hear anything
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we're not we're not awesome i would
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i was glad that we took off uh and uh
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shout out to cash app
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that uh sponsors us powers us empowers
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us tolerates us puts up with our
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[ __ ] greatest app in the world shout
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out to y'all
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uh we took off last week and i was happy
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about that because i didn't have to come
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in here and discuss the grannies
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for a few years i've been saying
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podcasters have to get with the idea
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that you got to come in here and talk at
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a time where
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maybe you just not ready to talk about
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[ __ ]
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maybe it's cool to shut the [ __ ] up not
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share your opinion just think something
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foul about somebody that somebody else
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don't have to know
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so the grammys happened and we didn't
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record
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and i was thrilled about that aspect
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though did you like the graves
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i loved the grammys me too i thought it
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was great
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really really really really entertaining
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but
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i had a lot of truthful takes and
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opinions about what was going on
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and i didn't want to come in here and
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have to tell the truth
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about some of the stuff that i observed
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you all love the grammys because i i
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didn't like the show yeah what are we
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talking about the grammys
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this this year this year said the show
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yeah the show this year performances or
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the awards cause that's the thing
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that's all the show that's all the show
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yeah the awards i don't know i didn't
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know i didn't enjoy the grammys there
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damn awesome enjoy the show this is what
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i was i did
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the rock nation show no i did not
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rock nation got some of the best artists
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though what's not to enjoy most of the
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artists
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like what's not to enjoy about it you're
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telling me that
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meg the stallion wins every award that
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she was nominated yeah
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uh yeah pretty much yeah why
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because she's mad so it's not because of
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the people that showed up
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right when when beyonce gets ready to
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win the tying and record-breaking award
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and the camera stays on them the entire
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time
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it has nothing to do with them right i
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didn't even correlate those two things
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okay
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i saw it i ain't stupid and y'all could
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pull the wool over everybody else's eyes
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we know what y'all did
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i'm coming in here to say how phony i am
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we knew that though yeah
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we knew that that's probably really yeah
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i thought i was keeping it a secret all
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this time
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i'm coming in here and listen these
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grammy awards
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made me come face to face with my
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phoniness man
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finally so damn
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so let's unpack it all let's do it let's
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unpack it all
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and i got some interesting takes here
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okay i
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loved the grammys what a
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show what a display of black
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excellence i love the awards i love the
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performances i loved all the people i
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hated i loved the labels i loved paola
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that was it i love teams of
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moving their weight around to get all of
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their artists nominated
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and winning and performing are you
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kidding me
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so let's get into how phony i am
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and let's start with the baby okay the
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baby
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he started the show the baby's a pop
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star he is yes
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i would have never argued that because
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who knows but i heard his i heard his
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feature on the duallipo record yeah
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and he says we're pop stars
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and the s was plural that put that one
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to bed
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wish rory was here so i could tell him
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the baby is a pop star
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if you didn't know now you know look at
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the look at the grammys that's the
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possibility what the grammys is and i
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feel bad for all of the other artists
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i feel bad for the art other artists at
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the labels because what the grammys
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is is a reminder as to who keeps the
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lights on at the labels
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it is a stark reminder of who the label
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deems as important
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and how much is into them
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i normally hate all of those people
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whoever the label is really
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into i don't know about that's not how i
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bump into my music
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yeah uh that's not who i champion and
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support because that's not
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how i'm built but on this night
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you're feeling it would a baby kill
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somebody
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yeah i think they did it right though
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word
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i'm just walking you through my train of
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thought this night
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the grammys opened up
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okay okay okay all right yeah you're the
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killer yeah
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with the guy with the guy who was
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self-defense
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when you challenged him to spencer when
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you yes but wait wait wait see killer
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just comes with such a negative
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connotation
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he's a self-defender yeah we never said
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well whether he was justified or not hey
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they ran up on him and his family and he
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did what he had to do
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right but that was years ago and the law
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has not
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made this a thing he's vindicated in
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that fact
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and now he's opening the grammys with
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two elderly white people
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dancing behind more than two he had a
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squad yeah he did it
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he did like the judges yo he did
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everything he was supposed to do
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he set up the fake grammys for his
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daughter to walk the red carpet
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he showed up killed the awards i don't
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like how they didn't give anthony
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hamilton any uh screen time i was like
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is that anthony
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sounds like anthony hamilton they never
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showed him and at the end they're like
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oh anthony hamilton
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all right give the guy some shine man
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shout out anthony hamilton yeah
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but the grammys opened up for me
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strong
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oh
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let's hear it because when you call
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somebody a killer you put something on
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their name and i i i don't want to put
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anything on there
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wait that's what i'm putting on because
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he didn't go out and look to kill
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somebody somebody came for him and he
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did what he had to do
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so i don't want to just call him a
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killer technically yeah he's a killer
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but he he's not somebody going out
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looking to kill people he's gucci
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killer um he killed somebody as well in
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self-defense
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is he a killer he's a self-defense he's
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killed somebody yes i'm not calling
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somebody a killer i think a killer comes
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with a certain intent
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they didn't have the intention they had
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the intention to defend themselves maybe
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that's a murderer
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what the hell is saying though because
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you know you know first of all
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murder has to have intent and act so
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maybe that's a murderer you're thinking
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of
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not a killer maybe i just don't like the
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cuff i don't like the connotation of it
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that's that's
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for me that's just like for you that's
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for me i'm not gonna say hey a killer
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opened up the grammys nah
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somebody came for him and he did what he
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had to do and he killed them
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absolutely absolutely absolutely
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but my argument i agree with you when my
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when when i'm making my argument to like
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a significant other like
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hey some lies is good like
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you can't bunch all liars together
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i mean the best for you when i be lying
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i'm lying to you for you
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really yeah so i support you in that
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thank you
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but anyway the grammys opened with
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someone who's a self-defender yeah
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and he is the priority at the label and
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that brought a smile to my face
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then he left jay's clothes came back do
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a leap he's on a pop record now he was
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all over the place
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mad jewelry he looked great melanated
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skin glistening off the [ __ ] screen
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i love that and then i was reminded holy
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[ __ ] this is cbs
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this is cbs
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[ __ ] it's lit so that was how i started
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i started with
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oh look at what hip-hop is doing i see
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this i see this i see it
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yeah every performer they brought out
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i loved most of them i only turned when
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taylor swift came out because that's not
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my bad
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yeah insane but then i went back i
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wasn't even mad how they started the uh
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country set with a a black woman singing
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about being black in america
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in a country format i was like okay yeah
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that's a nice way to make someone like
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me who's never going to listen to the
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country set listen to the country set
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for a minute
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they remember the the uh the backlash
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about
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you know the boy boys with yeah yeah hey
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name for the torches
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so they like all right listen we're
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gonna make sure yeah you know you call
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it pandering catering whatever
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we're gonna make sure we keep certain
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folk happy this time mm-hmm
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we're gonna you know this is their
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attempt at doing it right so
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so the grammys the report came out that
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the ratings were down
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by 10 million right but for me another
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reason why i enjoyed the grammys
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was this small little tidbit here and i
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have no facts
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this appeared to be a stick up on
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numerous fronts stick up season is in
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effect
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it's a pandemic it's quarantined
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the contracts we thought we had to
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deliver
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on networks some of them flaked
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we can't promise how to drive ratings in
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certain blocks
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for me cbs has a stick up here
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i don't know that cbs wants to show meg
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and cardi grinding on each other
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but i think that in a pandemic
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absolutely
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with whoever handles the grammy contract
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saying yo dawg this is what's getting it
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done this year
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sorry i think everywhere i think cbs is
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up against a little wall i don't know
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that but
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it appeared that way i also think that
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the performers
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and the winners were able to negotiate
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differently than they've been able to in
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the past
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with the grammys and the grammy board
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you think they gave him the uh yeah
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we'll pull up if you give us one
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jay boycotted the grammys i know word
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right and
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in case you thought that boycott
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disappeared he was there jay wore black
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jeans and a black hoodie and a black
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long coat and told his hairstylist to do
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the bob marley look in his hair there's
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a basket
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whatever it is whatever it is it's
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something symbolic of something good
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that's the beacon of hope yeah yeah yeah
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it's one of them dudes
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some [ __ ] had that [ __ ] yeah that's how
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you got to show up when you say you
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don't care though
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he took the picture with his wife his
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wife was in all black
- 17:44
i love that they hugged up they hey
- 17:46
they're those things
- 17:47
those things are symbolic that's a
- 17:49
statement those things are symbolic of
- 17:51
something
- 17:51
to joe so i'm championing this so far so
- 17:55
if you think
- 17:55
that i don't think that roc nation or
- 17:58
somebody got on the phone
- 18:00
with the grammy board and said this is
- 18:01
how this is gonna go absolutely
- 18:04
meg is winning everything yeah or else
- 18:07
beyonce will walk up there with her and
- 18:09
say a few words and she's gonna become
- 18:11
the biggest grammy winner of all time
- 18:24
what is this something that we've
- 18:25
developed on this podcast is learning
- 18:27
when to massage
- 18:28
our relationships uh i would never say
- 18:31
such a thing
- 18:33
but ice did the beautiful ice are only
- 18:35
from ice listen she won the award
- 18:38
if you're asking me i think
- 18:39
conversations were had like that's what
- 18:41
i think
- 18:42
uh and that being said savage was one of
- 18:44
the biggest songs of last year so she
- 18:46
deserves every interview it's not like
- 18:47
it was a reach
- 18:48
giving her uh her and beyonce a million
- 18:50
awards for
- 18:52
well one of the biggest songs of last
- 18:53
year to me and to me only it's a reach
- 18:55
when the grammys get it right
- 18:56
oh it's fair it's like nah is winning
- 18:59
this year
- 19:00
to me is back to the stick up
- 19:02
congratulations tonight's
- 19:04
[ __ ] right congratulations to nars
- 19:06
yes congratulations to nancy
- 19:08
thank you i thought it was album of the
- 19:11
year
- 19:11
freddy gibbs tweeted i rap better when
- 19:13
i'm angry i wanted to hit him back and
- 19:15
say what you angry about
- 19:18
that's good that you rap better when
- 19:19
you're angry true but what are you angry
- 19:21
about
- 19:21
go listen to the noise album it's still
- 19:22
a window for good to be nominated one
- 19:24
for royce
- 19:25
it's a win for everybody that was
- 19:27
nominated and congrats to my own
- 19:28
thoughts about
- 19:29
the entire group that's nominated
- 19:32
but again i'm happy nice one out of who
- 19:36
was up there
- 19:37
you know uh i mean of course we want to
- 19:39
see roy skinner but
- 19:41
yeah but you're hating on december but
- 19:43
we want to know what that is
- 19:46
yeah we got to stop doing that too i
- 19:47
like these smokes i like this smoker
- 19:49
you might be killing them on this part
- 19:51
and i like these smiles i like these
- 19:53
this is who that is that album wasn't a
- 19:55
big enough album in my opinion to be
- 19:56
grammy now what record
- 19:58
like i'm not trying to be funny i've
- 19:59
never heard of these i've seen the name
- 20:01
i don't know he was on the
- 20:02
netflix show with cardi and but what
- 20:04
that's not music i know it was the song
- 20:06
i see why you didn't start a podcast
- 20:09
that's not a shot that's not a shot
- 20:13
never hurt
- 20:16
that's a shot and he knows music so it
- 20:18
might be a shot because that's a shot
- 20:20
but i thought but knows someone because
- 20:23
more popular music these smoke is serg's
- 20:25
brother they're twins
- 20:26
do you smoke raps he won the netflix
- 20:28
show sir
- 20:30
he's on tv they look like twins they
- 20:33
look like toads
- 20:35
okay i don't think they're actually
- 20:36
choking i just never knew i can't
- 20:37
explain further but i like these balls
- 20:41
really nice winning for me was the
- 20:44
grammy's attempt at
- 20:45
saying hey we're going to do some things
- 20:48
correctly ice t1
- 20:49
as well for uh best heavy metal band uh
- 20:52
body count
- 20:53
so congratulations to the og that was
- 20:55
interesting yeah
- 20:56
oh [ __ ] i didn't know that yeah
- 20:57
congratulations man
- 20:59
a lot of this stuff was the pre did you
- 21:01
guys watch the pre-show too where they
- 21:02
just
- 21:03
quickly ran down i'm not a loser i
- 21:04
watched them
- 21:07
twitter
- 21:14
joe
- 21:28
yeah alex don't do that that's my guy
- 21:30
too
- 21:33
yeah i don't understand why they can't
- 21:34
put some of that stuff like on the
- 21:35
actual wardrobe because they were just
- 21:36
going through the list like oh now's one
- 21:38
yo ice t-1 yeah
- 21:39
like you can do that in the mail on
- 21:41
tweets oh [ __ ] okay oh this is one all
- 21:44
right i'm just
- 21:45
just back to back yeah you could do that
- 21:48
i love this doji cat girl i do
- 21:51
yeah i love it told everybody she was
- 21:53
dumb y'all could miss me with that yo we
- 21:55
canceling dozier cat that ain't
- 21:56
happening
- 21:56
like she's but i didn't know so when
- 21:58
they said that i was one of the guys to
- 22:00
cancel her i went and saw the little
- 22:01
tiny chat thing yeah
- 22:02
i don't know where she may have been
- 22:04
offensive and with some kkk racist
- 22:07
people
- 22:08
but i wasn't but i wasn't [ __ ] with
- 22:10
her because her entryway
- 22:12
to this thing was [ __ ] which is a
- 22:15
certified classic record
- 22:16
certified i play at christmas every year
- 22:20
moo she's a performer too
- 22:23
she's a performer she is she she's good
- 22:26
in front of the camera
- 22:27
all right all right her entry record
- 22:28
kind of dictates
- 22:30
the way that and just you got to do some
- 22:31
gimmicky [ __ ] to get on trick the people
- 22:33
to follow you and then show them your
- 22:35
talent
- 22:35
that's been happening yeah but she is
- 22:37
the person to do that she just did in a
- 22:38
more funny way to me than most people i
- 22:40
could name a couple of other artists
- 22:41
that have done that
- 22:42
and and been super successful with
- 22:44
gimmicky [ __ ] from the rip
- 22:46
and then once i get you wheeled i get
- 22:48
you reeled in now it's hey look now i'm
- 22:50
actually dope
- 22:50
no i'm actually dope i can rap i got you
- 23:01
the baby walking around in the pamper
- 23:03
right like that's a gimmick that's a
- 23:05
gimmick
- 23:06
you're an idiot because babies walk
- 23:09
around
- 23:10
in pampers he's a grown man
- 23:13
according to you is a killer a grown man
- 23:16
that's a killer
- 23:17
a self-defender but in their definition
- 23:19
a killer walking around in a pamper
- 23:21
is a gimmick but so listen so this is
- 23:23
where i was faced with my own
- 23:24
contradiction
- 23:25
and i do believe that humans are just
- 23:26
walking contradictions of course yeah
- 23:28
every once in a while your cat comes out
- 23:30
i was a little finicky because y'all
- 23:31
told me to cancel her
- 23:33
cool i'm phony i thought i thought she
- 23:36
killed her performances
- 23:38
i thought she looked thick in a little
- 23:39
robot outfit i was like oh what a hot
- 23:41
robot
- 23:42
what a hot box she got it she got it bro
- 23:46
i didn't know i didn't tell me she had a
- 23:47
fatty back there
- 23:57
and then an hour later i'm sitting there
- 23:59
watching with cory and who strolls out
- 24:01
you guessed it post below
- 24:04
i start going crazy
- 24:07
listen i don't care if y'all laughing me
- 24:10
joe goes
- 24:10
crazy when post malone comes out
- 24:14
he's dope yeah that's nasty though have
- 24:16
you ever heard hollywood hollywood's
- 24:17
bleeding yes
- 24:19
i just wish he did it that night in
- 24:21
hollywood
- 24:23
no no no no no sorry
- 24:26
he didn't get there but post malone i
- 24:28
apolo i i
- 24:29
same way as doji cat i wrote him off i
- 24:32
didn't like that white eyebrows i didn't
- 24:33
do that white ivor someone was the
- 24:35
reason why i didn't like him
- 24:36
and not even that the song was bad
- 24:39
everybody i'm harvesting fan
- 24:41
you're the biggest cyrus fan in the
- 24:42
world when i met you you was wearing
- 24:44
iverson jersey i was like damn bro it's
- 24:46
twenty six twenty seven pair of iverson
- 24:48
sneakers right now mm-hmm just like nice
- 24:50
with the iverson jersey
- 24:51
and then somebody photoshopped a post
- 24:53
malone vid of him saying the
- 24:55
n word ooh photoshop yeah
- 25:02
i don't think it was him but i said
- 25:04
without phony i am like damn why do i
- 25:05
accept post malone this way
- 25:08
and nobody else like justin bieber i
- 25:11
pushed
- 25:11
biebs through the [ __ ] pushed him
- 25:14
through the ringer
- 25:15
he dropped some [ __ ] today i'm gonna
- 25:17
challenge you on that i'm i'm gonna
- 25:18
challenge you all now
- 25:20
i'm defending the bees bro
- 25:24
you drop some heat some [ __ ]
- 25:35
when we get to music i'ma hold your feet
- 25:37
to the fire a little bit joe because
- 25:38
i've been sitting on the sideline
- 25:40
and i don't really like the energy you
- 25:41
bring to justin bieber because you hold
- 25:43
him accountable for some [ __ ] he did
- 25:45
when he was young
- 25:46
but i think he's one of the very few
- 25:48
when we talk about pop stars he's one of
- 25:50
the few pop stars that are trying to get
- 25:51
it right
- 25:52
and he's actively doing it like your man
- 25:54
post malone
- 26:09
[ __ ] hip-hop all of this [ __ ] he doesn't
- 26:11
make hip-hop music
- 26:12
yeah he's not a let me reply because i'm
- 26:15
here with my cape to defend post below
- 26:17
i'm with you on that too by the way how
- 26:18
is he a culture vulture
- 26:20
he don't rap he don't make music
- 26:24
music he ain't trying to make nothing
- 26:26
that appeals to you
- 26:27
even the white iverson was working was
- 26:29
that hip-hop that's what
- 26:30
i don't think it really was it was
- 26:32
sing-songy vibey
- 26:34
i don't fancy he's up here dressed as
- 26:37
the undertaker
- 26:39
the people that look like they're gonna
- 26:40
take your life all around him and he's
- 26:42
like
- 26:43
nelson tattoo wait wait wait wait wait
- 26:45
wait wait wait hold up cause this is my
- 26:46
real thing and he's really singing
- 26:48
unlike that silk sonic
- 26:55
[Music]
- 27:03
which one are you talking about so sonic
- 27:06
is two
- 27:07
so out of the group which one is yours
- 27:08
it don't matter it does matter it don't
- 27:11
matter it matters
- 27:11
it don't matter no it doesn't matter i'm
- 27:13
a provocateur what's the word for what
- 27:15
i'm doing
- 27:16
i'm an antagonizer we're
- 27:23
let me get back to uh come on slow down
- 27:24
we're speeding let me get back to save
- 27:26
on point
- 27:27
the biebs the bees i forgive people when
- 27:29
it seems like they're apologetic
- 27:31
one i didn't really like his apology
- 27:34
about the [ __ ]
- 27:35
any harmony i hated that he harmonized
- 27:38
[ __ ] and i didn't like his apology
- 27:39
about it
- 27:40
well he harmonized it and it was fire
- 27:42
first off
- 27:43
what not he was getting it
- 27:59
black man in america that he was he got
- 28:02
it all because he was harming the voice
- 28:03
you said the harm i'm just talking about
- 28:05
the harmony
- 28:05
you [ __ ] what he said no
- 28:08
i'm not a fan of what he said and and
- 28:11
like i said
- 28:12
then we're going backwards bro you you
- 28:14
got to look at the person for what he's
- 28:16
trying to do today
- 28:18
like if you go on his he's one of the
- 28:19
few pop stars that's speaking out
- 28:21
on a lot of the issues
- 28:37
because we [ __ ] on pop stars all the
- 28:39
time for taking the sound
- 28:40
taking the vibes of the culture and he's
- 28:43
been accused of that
- 28:44
and i've done it he's done it yeah they
- 28:45
ain't even been accused he's still doing
- 28:47
it but he's the
- 28:49
the first he's never stopped doing it
- 28:51
ever but he's in the minority of saying
- 28:53
hey
- 28:54
no he's a majority okay he's the
- 28:56
majority in that sense
- 28:57
but he speaks to it and he says like yo
- 29:01
[ __ ] ain't right or this is black and
- 29:04
white [ __ ] like he speaks to someone
- 29:05
like what matter movement the brianna
- 29:07
taylor stuff like i followed and they go
- 29:09
on
- 29:09
on social media oh you believe that
- 29:13
yeah yeah yeah you inviting them to the
- 29:15
cooking
- 29:16
oh you believe the poem he wrote like
- 29:19
it's the actions
- 29:21
hello to the blacks i didn't mean
- 29:24
i didn't mean to attack what i said was
- 29:28
wack [ __ ] and as a man or a fat you fell
- 29:30
for that whatever you said you're still
- 29:31
listening uh sabrina claudio
- 29:33
right yes i do okay and i'll [ __ ] her
- 29:37
yeah that's the reason why i'm sorry to
- 29:38
be honest
- 29:44
but what's your point give it to me but
- 29:45
nah she did uh a similar thing
- 29:47
some racism she has never harmonized
- 29:49
[ __ ] you know she's not to our
- 29:51
knowledge
- 29:51
and we've never seen
- 29:55
speaking to black women right
- 29:58
and now you still listen to her music
- 30:00
you champion whatever you champion
- 30:02
like you just gotta keep that same
- 30:04
energy in my opinion
- 30:05
just because he's a little bit bigger
- 30:06
and just because you don't like the word
- 30:08
the way that it happened it's still the
- 30:09
same offense
- 30:10
racism is racism but if you i haven't
- 30:13
heard a word from her
- 30:14
have you heard from sabrina claudia yeah
- 30:16
i play it every morning in the shower
- 30:19
take care of
- 30:23
yeah she apologized okay and then
- 30:25
there's silence after that
- 30:28
when brianna taylor gets killed or when
- 30:31
anybody when there's a travesty in the
- 30:32
black community
- 30:33
you don't hear her you don't hear a lot
- 30:36
of these people
- 30:36
that's all i'm saying like okay
- 30:39
shut up so he uses this
- 30:44
[ __ ] but whether you believe him or not
- 30:47
because he's being used
- 31:02
no never that i'm never getting i'm not
- 31:04
giving him a pass for saying this [ __ ]
- 31:06
yeah i'm not giving him a position
- 31:09
not giving him a passport anyway he
- 31:11
dropped some heat
- 31:14
dropped man like and i've been sitting
- 31:17
on the sidelines listening
- 31:19
to justin bieber wait wait time out time
- 31:21
out time out you gave me like
- 31:23
time out save on i apologize it may be
- 31:26
my ptsd
- 31:28
you keep saying i've been sitting on the
- 31:29
sidelines and it was triggering me
- 31:32
are you unhappy have you been unhappy on
- 31:35
the sidelines
- 31:36
i'm good on the side i'm good i'm
- 31:39
straight
- 31:40
hey listen we don't have to debate this
- 31:41
because this is what i thought for two
- 31:43
seconds when i was watching the grammys
- 31:44
and i didn't want to tell anybody
- 31:46
it was damn some of these people have
- 31:48
been killing for saying the the
- 31:50
n-word they love us they love us they
- 31:53
just wanted some attention
- 31:55
needed to figure out a way in and then
- 31:57
apologized and
- 31:58
it's
- 32:05
[Music]
- 32:11
a lot of people let's keep this moving a
- 32:13
lot of people laughed at me for my silk
- 32:15
sonic take about them being too perfect
- 32:17
and now and then they performed and it
- 32:20
was perfect
- 32:22
somebody talked it was perfect somebody
- 32:24
talked to me hey those are my guys
- 32:26
yeah it was perfect that [ __ ] was
- 32:28
perfect that song is beautiful
- 32:31
that song is song of the year probably
- 32:33
so far
- 32:34
that performance was perfect y'all
- 32:37
[ __ ] is too perfect
- 32:39
you all need to go find mistakes and
- 32:41
[ __ ] up every once in a while
- 32:42
there's beauty in the mistakes what i
- 32:44
don't like about sonic
- 32:46
they too talented to do the [ __ ]
- 32:48
they was doing on twitter
- 32:49
oh i hated that oh my god like
- 32:51
disgusting and it goes back to the
- 32:53
i'm a cow [ __ ] like leave that photo
- 32:56
tell the people what you're doing
- 32:57
what what were they doing on twitter the
- 32:58
fake uh they didn't
- 33:00
fake rollout yeah some it was a real
- 33:02
rollout oh it was a rollout but
- 33:04
they beefing with each other on twitter
- 33:06
then the grammys jump in hey
- 33:07
you know we agreed to have you guys
- 33:09
perform can y'all pac like
- 33:11
just fake arguing with each other on
- 33:12
twitter to get people
- 33:14
talking about you know we talked to
- 33:15
coyotes when kai's called last week and
- 33:17
he was like
- 33:19
that's so corny i don't want to see
- 33:21
super
- 33:22
talented people resort to those tactics
- 33:24
leave that for the
- 33:25
people who i gotta find you bruno mars
- 33:27
can drop anything without
- 33:29
a word we're gonna run and listen to it
- 33:31
in fact you don't have to trick us
- 33:33
with this rollout [ __ ] on the internet
- 33:35
for a live performance at that
- 33:37
well i'm gonna push back on that
- 33:40
bruno mars can drop anything he wants
- 33:43
whenever he wants because the name bruno
- 33:45
mars comes with
- 33:46
whatever the credit check is that comes
- 33:48
with that um
- 33:52
if bruno mars if you call best buy and
- 33:54
say hey bruno mars is dropping they're
- 33:55
going to order a lot
- 33:56
yeah if you say silk sonic is dropping
- 33:59
they don't have any credit report
- 34:01
anywhere we don't know what that means
- 34:02
even when you say it's anderson pack
- 34:04
and bruno mars we still don't know how
- 34:07
it will perform
- 34:08
and from the label standpoint we need
- 34:10
this to perform like this and we still
- 34:12
need bruno to drop
- 34:14
and perform like that that's why we're
- 34:16
doing this
- 34:17
it's it's just whack though it's just
- 34:20
wack
- 34:20
like come up with something else yeah
- 34:23
that's whack
- 34:24
that was right that's all that's all to
- 34:25
me
- 34:27
they're going against let's talk about
- 34:29
the people that performed at the grammys
- 34:31
we talked about the baby i like their
- 34:32
other performances
- 34:34
chuck berry uh there was a chuck no
- 34:36
little richard uh tribute
- 34:39
um megan carty stars
- 34:43
uh taylor swift star little baby
- 34:47
star yeah also back to my debaby point
- 34:51
when little baby comes out and kills his
- 34:53
performance i say wow
- 34:54
great that he's at the top of music also
- 34:57
somebody who i deem
- 34:59
to blow your [ __ ] brains out if the
- 35:00
situation ever presented itself
- 35:02
i like this self-defense okay i'm
- 35:04
getting it i'm getting too many stories
- 35:06
it's been too many horror stories over
- 35:08
the years past two years
- 35:09
all right of our favorite rappers that
- 35:13
are believable dying right or getting
- 35:16
shot
- 35:17
or going to jail we're not really
- 35:20
singing the praises of some of the
- 35:22
people that are sitting at the top
- 35:24
of music last decade when it was drake
- 35:27
cole and kendrick at the top
- 35:29
us lyricists were saying yo look at the
- 35:31
people at the top
- 35:33
lyricists are in lyricists are back
- 35:36
those are the people at the top
- 35:37
this decade it looks like the streets
- 35:40
are at the top
- 35:41
[Music]
- 35:42
the streets at the top the trenches as
- 35:44
they as they uh
- 35:45
love to call it you know same thing but
- 35:47
the new word
- 35:48
is the trenches little baby the baby
- 35:51
[ __ ] janae
- 35:53
yeah yeah janae came out like look more
- 35:55
gangsters
- 35:56
yeah it's nothing but a gangster party
- 36:00
yeah right right absolutely give it to
- 36:03
me like i did like
- 36:04
i enjoyed the stick up i enjoyed the
- 36:06
politics
- 36:07
that a lot of people were laughing at it
- 36:10
was funny to me
- 36:11
but congratulations to roc nation as a
- 36:14
whole congratulations to meg
- 36:15
i mean i'm not i'm not at work
- 36:17
congratulations tonight
- 36:19
congratulations to bad bunny yeah when i
- 36:21
when i say
- 36:22
the roc nation point it's still a
- 36:25
congratulation to him to even be able to
- 36:26
be in that position to do that
- 36:28
you know what i'm saying we couldn't do
- 36:30
that before like yo check this out man
- 36:32
my people winning
- 36:33
we ain't showing up right so just to be
- 36:36
able to be in that position
- 36:37
that's fine i love so i'm not gonna be a
- 36:40
hater i still just
- 36:42
you know i don't like it i love that my
- 36:44
son snuck his way up there
- 36:46
did he yeah i didn't see that during a
- 36:48
little baby performance he had the
- 36:49
camouflage shirt on with a mask on in
- 36:51
the back with his fist in the air
- 36:55
[Music]
- 36:58
that performance was just powerful man
- 37:00
that took me back to the uh
- 37:02
the kendrick uh performance a couple
- 37:04
years back yeah
- 37:05
like and for little baby to be in that
- 37:07
position
- 37:09
top of the game like you said the
- 37:11
streets all the youngins
- 37:13
rock with him to do that on that
- 37:16
platform
- 37:17
salute so my thing is how could you
- 37:19
watch the grammys
- 37:20
and see where hip-hop is right now
- 37:23
and really be angered by you got to
- 37:25
support every one of those
- 37:27
acts what they stand for what they're
- 37:30
doing
- 37:31
i loved the more intimate setting at the
- 37:33
grammys where it wasn't 9 million people
- 37:35
red carpet cameras everywhere i love
- 37:37
hey only the people we need to be here
- 37:39
are here right that little kick flip
- 37:41
after you through the mouth
- 37:42
tough cocktail was hilarious he did like
- 37:45
a windmill kick after yeah
- 37:47
anyway no i thought it was cool seeing
- 37:49
um
- 37:50
because if you remember a little baby
- 37:51
said he was all for this kind of
- 37:53
movement like he didn't
- 37:54
he didn't want to be known as the new
- 37:56
wave um
- 37:57
activist rapper yeah he said he wouldn't
- 37:59
do this he said he was not doing i'm not
- 38:01
exactly doing any more records like this
- 38:02
this was a one and done for me and and
- 38:04
to see him get on the grammys almost a
- 38:06
year later because this came out almost
- 38:08
a year ago
- 38:09
and to see him get on the grammys on one
- 38:10
of the biggest stages and and
- 38:12
and do what he did like that that's a
- 38:15
performance
- 38:16
like we know little baby he's going to
- 38:19
rap he's going to give you the melodies
- 38:20
he's going to do that
- 38:21
but like he got up there and he
- 38:22
performed a record
- 38:24
that he said he wasn't going to touch
- 38:26
too much yeah so
- 38:28
i like seeing that a lot and like
- 38:29
everybody he brought off out stations
- 38:31
samika mallory too for the poem thing
- 38:33
that she dropped yeah i seen social
- 38:34
media
- 38:35
trying to cancel her a couple days ago
- 38:37
i'm not wrong
- 38:38
i'm just not wrong they tried to cancel
- 38:41
who
- 38:41
um they've been basically saying that
- 38:44
she's
- 38:45
like what is it what's the performance
- 38:48
yeah yeah
- 38:49
yeah like the same thing i've seen
- 38:51
people accuse uh
- 38:52
sean king of it's just like coming in
- 38:55
and
- 38:55
i think they accused of sean king but
- 38:57
it's not just they this was tamiya
- 38:59
rice's
- 39:00
mom if i'm correct okay see i didn't
- 39:02
know it started from there i'm just i'm
- 39:03
just saw it on my timeline i said oh
- 39:05
y'all are finally telling the truth
- 39:06
about her and i'm like
- 39:08
it was a lot on her and black lives
- 39:10
matter the organization
- 39:12
not not the cause i don't know enough
- 39:14
about what she does
- 39:15
uh outside of the speeches and
- 39:17
performances that she's done
- 39:19
so i can't speak to none of that but
- 39:20
when she speaks it's usually profound
- 39:23
and
- 39:23
yeah that's right and impactful and and
- 39:26
some of us
- 39:27
do believe that all of these causes are
- 39:29
near and dear to her heart
- 39:30
that's where the confusion comes in it's
- 39:33
like she ain't
- 39:34
she's never come off as a bandwagoner or
- 39:36
somebody that's right knowing the trendy
- 39:37
politics saying
- 39:39
hey this is profitable so this is where
- 39:40
i'm at now now she's been on this
- 39:42
yeah and i don't know what she did
- 39:43
before i knew like yeah and i i think
- 39:46
that's a lot of things
- 39:48
i mean i think that's something that a
- 39:49
lot of people also have a problem with
- 39:51
i didn't know you before this so because
- 39:54
you're now
- 39:55
jump you jumped out in the forefront you
- 39:57
know you you're screaming it at the top
- 39:59
of your lungs and you've become
- 40:01
sort of a a face of it now you don't
- 40:04
deserve that because
- 40:05
who were you before this so it almost
- 40:07
comes off as ingenuine but i disagree
- 40:09
with that i disagree with that entirely
- 40:10
too
- 40:10
i think as many people as we can get out
- 40:12
there fighting and saying you know
- 40:13
bringing attention to something
- 40:15
welcome them in exactly right that's
- 40:16
there's no time to be sitting there
- 40:17
saying oh yo you wasn't with us
- 40:19
seven years ago so your voice your
- 40:21
opinion your voice your stance doesn't
- 40:22
matter now yeah like nah man
- 40:24
we need everybody on board to pick and
- 40:27
choose i feel like they throw the
- 40:28
performative label on things sometimes
- 40:31
and it's like sometimes it's okay to be
- 40:34
it's not okay to be performative in the
- 40:36
actual definition of it but like
- 40:39
she's a performer she does vocal
- 40:40
performances like
- 40:42
i don't care maybe what she's doing
- 40:44
otherwise if she's adding to
- 40:45
the cause she's continuing the
- 40:47
conversation like you're saying she's
- 40:49
bringing more attention to something
- 40:50
that needs a lot of
- 40:52
attention so it don't matter what you've
- 40:54
done before that if you're using
- 40:56
or built a platform to bring it
- 40:59
attention to this that we need everybody
- 41:01
looking at
- 41:02
and if you don't want to you know you
- 41:04
you it's almost like you can't hate that
- 41:06
it's important to know that it wasn't
- 41:08
just heard it was called out uh
- 41:09
that called out uh benjamin crump the
- 41:11
attorney uh a few people that are just
- 41:14
involved in some of the more high
- 41:15
profile cases that hit the news
- 41:17
okay is there anything factual or
- 41:21
substantial to warrant a cancellation of
- 41:24
her
- 41:25
not that i've seen if i lost a child it
- 41:27
doesn't need to be for me
- 41:29
but uh and i'm agreeing like with
- 41:31
everything y'all saying but it's just
- 41:32
crazy to me because you're not going to
- 41:34
know somebody until you know
- 41:36
like we didn't know her because it
- 41:38
wasn't called for at the time
- 41:40
none of that matters if i lost a child
- 41:42
to me
- 41:43
but i lost my child it's not about logic
- 41:46
it's not about what's justifiable
- 41:48
understandable where you've been your
- 41:50
reputation
- 41:50
how this affects things the people you
- 41:52
are lobbying together
- 41:54
i lost my child right i lost my child
- 41:56
nothing is happening out there can bring
- 41:58
my child back
- 41:59
and just the mere utterance of his of
- 42:02
the name
- 42:03
brings me back to a dark place so it's
- 42:06
cool perspective is important while
- 42:07
y'all
- 42:08
out there championing champion and
- 42:09
championing when i hear
- 42:11
any of that i get brought to a dark
- 42:13
place
- 42:14
maybe it's best for me if i don't ever
- 42:17
get to hear that
- 42:18
got it right right i get that and when
- 42:20
you say you lost a child you're speaking
- 42:22
to samira rice
- 42:24
the mother of tamir rice right yes okay
- 42:26
all right official statement from samir
- 42:27
rice mother of tamir rice and lisa
- 42:29
simpson mother of richard richer
- 42:32
tamika mallory sean king benjamin crump
- 42:34
lee merritt patrice cullers it's just a
- 42:36
long list of names
- 42:38
moline abdullah and the black lives
- 42:40
matter global network need to step down
- 42:42
stand back and stop monopolizing and
- 42:44
capitalizing our fight for justice and
- 42:45
human rights
- 42:46
we never hired them to be
- 42:47
representatives in this fight for
- 42:49
justice
- 42:50
uh fight for justice for our dead loved
- 42:52
ones murdered by the police
- 42:54
the activists have uh have events in our
- 42:56
cities
- 42:57
and have not given us anything
- 42:58
substantial for using our loved ones
- 43:00
images and names on their flyers
- 43:02
the attorneys in our fight are also
- 43:04
misleading the impacted families
- 43:06
in the case of tamir rice it was even
- 43:07
questionable as to whether benjamin
- 43:09
crump knew the
- 43:10
laws in depth i don't want to read this
- 43:12
because it's messy
- 43:13
yeah but but you can see you can see the
- 43:16
vibe
- 43:17
of where that's going yes i have my
- 43:19
thoughts on it
- 43:20
for sure because i i've never lost a
- 43:24
child so i can't speak from that
- 43:25
perspective
- 43:27
but when it says that i've never had a
- 43:28
child i've never had a job
- 43:30
i've never had a child i can't speak to
- 43:32
being a parent
- 43:33
either i can't speak to even being a
- 43:34
parent but i could imagine
- 43:37
no no no yeah i'm not kidding y'all
- 43:39
don't even let me finish go ahead i'm
- 43:40
not saying i can imagine losing a child
- 43:42
i'm not saying that
- 43:44
i can imagine wanting somebody to bring
- 43:47
light to a situation that maybe i feel
- 43:51
needs to be brought light to so
- 43:54
if let's say i lose a dog if i lose a
- 43:56
dog
- 43:57
and my neighbor is helping me plaster
- 44:00
the message of hey i lost whatever i
- 44:01
lost this
- 44:03
wouldn't that be not enough but wouldn't
- 44:06
that help
- 44:06
is that not that that doesn't to me it
- 44:08
doesn't seem like it's a hindrance it
- 44:09
sounds like the concern is that they're
- 44:10
taking money and not giving any back too
- 44:12
so
- 44:12
it sounds like money let me respond that
- 44:14
likeness that that would that would help
- 44:16
if me the person that lost the child
- 44:18
feels that that's helpful
- 44:20
got it yeah that's the perspective thing
- 44:22
because when you hear from a
- 44:23
parent standpoint you go all right um if
- 44:26
you're not you know
- 44:27
informing me about what's actually
- 44:28
happening on a day-to-day thing i'm cool
- 44:30
yeah if i don't feel good if i don't
- 44:32
feel it's helpful then it's harmful and
- 44:34
it's hurtful
- 44:35
got it and then see you profiting off of
- 44:37
it yeah that [ __ ] makes it my
- 44:39
decision to make and maybe she don't
- 44:42
want her her son's name
- 44:44
attached to anything and that's okay
- 44:46
that's a different conversation
- 44:47
i'm just thinking from the point of she
- 44:49
wasn't given the opportunity
- 44:51
to even say and that's what it sounds
- 44:53
like from this here yeah we wouldn't
- 44:54
even give an
- 44:54
opportunity to say yeah we want to stand
- 44:57
with you yes use my son's name on this
- 44:59
right here this is
- 44:59
this is what i did this is not the same
- 45:01
point at all but here's an
- 45:03
example for me i lost both my dogs in
- 45:05
2018.
- 45:06
some people know that that had a huge
- 45:08
effect on me some people don't
- 45:09
now now i was with you now
- 45:12
you're with me when i was with you um
- 45:16
that's when i was going to your house
- 45:17
every day and then we was actually in
- 45:19
your car
- 45:20
and i want to say it was harlem it was
- 45:24
harlem that we dropped off at the vet
- 45:25
and you found out the news and me and
- 45:28
you was in the car just
- 45:29
and i saw how that affected you oh you
- 45:31
don't remember that bro
- 45:33
you was crying like and and not even to
- 45:35
make joke of it but
- 45:36
it looked like a love of hip-hop scene
- 45:38
like the way that your the tears were
- 45:39
coming down your eyes are like oh
- 45:40
[ __ ] i just remember this no i was with
- 45:44
joe when he found out the news
- 45:46
like oh [ __ ] it's it's so i was driving
- 45:48
this before so
- 45:49
this is when i was your driver
- 45:52
and you hated my drive this is when i
- 45:55
was your driver yeah i'll say ball drop
- 45:57
real quick
- 45:57
it was just me and you in the car and
- 45:59
i'm like damn can i just say
- 46:00
that network head joe hates how some of
- 46:04
these sentences
- 46:05
come out i was driving with you bro
- 46:09
i don't remember you being the driver
- 46:11
before
- 46:12
but cool i'll roll um but but my point
- 46:15
in that
- 46:16
is i lost both my dogs in 2018 you were
- 46:18
there awesome
- 46:19
right today sometimes people be like
- 46:21
they don't know that
- 46:22
hey man well how's your dogs right
- 46:25
that's [ __ ] up and now they both died
- 46:28
in 2018.
- 46:29
it's oh [ __ ] i'm sorry he had no idea
- 46:33
well yeah i mean it's fine there's no
- 46:35
offense but if you don't have any idea
- 46:37
how would you have any idea right now
- 46:39
imagine that if i lost a child
- 46:41
right if i lost a child and did what i
- 46:43
had to do to get whole with that
- 46:45
which i can't even imagine what that
- 46:47
tastes i don't think that you ever get
- 46:48
home you can't
- 46:49
yeah and then every time i turn the tv
- 46:51
on or pick up the phone on social media
- 46:53
i have to see my child's name from
- 46:55
people that haven't
- 46:56
communicated with me at all yeah i could
- 46:58
see a situation where i'm i'm upset by
- 47:00
this
- 47:00
yeah that's actually what that's what
- 47:02
pop smokes mom said she said it's
- 47:03
difficult for her to you know digest
- 47:04
music from him or see anything from him
- 47:07
biggie's mom said
- 47:08
exactly but us as fans it's hard for us
- 47:10
to really you know see that but it's
- 47:11
like from the inside looking in that
- 47:12
[ __ ] is hard
- 47:13
yeah i agree you guys will get me
- 47:15
depressed i'm gonna move on um
- 47:18
if i didn't think the grammys were
- 47:19
rigged
- 47:21
at all when they aired they are
- 47:25
yeah but see that's the thing about my
- 47:26
experience watching grammys that night
- 47:28
parks
- 47:28
i felt bad about having a podcast and
- 47:31
coming in here to give my opinion on all
- 47:33
these takes
- 47:33
i felt horrible watching the grammys
- 47:36
that night i said oh
- 47:38
[ __ ] y'all this was never for me
- 47:41
it was never for me it was it's always
- 47:43
been for
- 47:44
the casual fan that don't really know to
- 47:47
drive in the cells
- 47:49
right it's not for me to use my industry
- 47:51
brain
- 47:52
to now take it and go dive into
- 47:56
the points because it's not what this is
- 47:58
for
- 47:59
right all these artists i don't listen
- 48:01
to when they're in commercial
- 48:03
yeah that's what they're doing and it's
- 48:04
working i gotta i'm so i like the people
- 48:07
that the commercial is for today
- 48:08
got it now how i feel about the grammys
- 48:11
is the same
- 48:12
i don't deem to get my approval rating
- 48:15
from anywhere else like yeah that's
- 48:17
inside of me
- 48:18
but to the people that do like roddy
- 48:20
rich was going crazy
- 48:21
afterward he was saying yo man he didn't
- 48:25
name kanye but kanye's the only one who
- 48:26
pissed in the grammy
- 48:28
he said yo you pissed in a grammy man
- 48:29
i'm nominated for six of them how am i
- 48:31
supposed to feel what do that do to my
- 48:32
accomplishments well what does it do
- 48:35
righty rich
- 48:37
i can't expect you to know you to view
- 48:39
things the way kanye feels it you as a
- 48:41
first time grammy guy in kanye toward
- 48:43
the end tail end of his career
- 48:44
right as one of the richest men in
- 48:46
america y'all would view it differently
- 48:48
kanye pissed in the grammy [ __ ] drake
- 48:50
ate some cereal or some [ __ ] out the
- 48:51
grammy
- 48:52
whole boycott of the grant like when you
- 48:55
when you're on that you own that
- 48:57
that's not for the new artist to be on
- 48:59
yeah so
- 49:00
you're not at that level but if i didn't
- 49:02
think that it was rigged at any point
- 49:05
they ended the night confirming to me
- 49:08
that it was rick
- 49:11
billy eilish wins an award oh yeah
- 49:14
i don't know anything about billy eilish
- 49:15
or or her music
- 49:17
i never understood popular i understood
- 49:19
her winning
- 49:20
was it a year ago or two years ago yeah
- 49:22
last year because she had a big album
- 49:23
and it was a good album like i said she
- 49:24
was something that i went back to but
- 49:26
she was everywhere
- 49:27
she won the big one right she's having
- 49:28
she won't recognize billy eilish comes
- 49:30
up for the big one
- 49:31
record of the year and she spends her
- 49:33
whole time
- 49:34
it just came off a little odd all of
- 49:36
that yo meg is the one
- 49:38
meg i listened to every single day this
- 49:41
should have been
- 49:42
meg this should have been yours i'm
- 49:43
giving it to you yeah
- 49:45
that's why the biggest moment of the
- 49:47
grammys which is you know that's the big
- 49:48
award
- 49:49
i'm going to use that to throw all the
- 49:52
spotlight on
- 49:53
you and that's why and that's why wait a
- 49:55
minute and that's why
- 49:57
don't i don't care about what roc nation
- 49:58
did because there were some artists to
- 50:01
come up there and say
- 50:03
it's you it's not me it's you joe
- 50:06
thought that that speech was a little
- 50:08
off but i didn't understand why until
- 50:10
i'm watching the news
- 50:12
and they say that the song that she won
- 50:13
for is a song that's not out
- 50:16
it's a song that's not released it's a
- 50:18
song that is attached
- 50:19
to a soundtrack of a movie that should
- 50:22
have been released in october
- 50:24
but because of the pandemic it was not
- 50:27
how did you win
- 50:28
see i didn't know that i didn't know
- 50:29
that i didn't know the soundtrack i knew
- 50:31
it was on the soundtrack i thought it
- 50:32
was
- 50:32
something that came out though that's
- 50:33
crazy it's not even that's nuts that's
- 50:35
insane
- 50:36
that is not how did you win it maybe it
- 50:38
was just that good of a record
- 50:40
maybe it was just that good no one heard
- 50:42
it right
- 50:44
no that's nuts let me explain we all us
- 50:48
artists
- 50:49
all the records are good before they
- 50:50
come out
- 50:54
tell me one record that ain't good
- 50:56
before i come out all of us think all
- 50:58
this [ __ ] is thriller
- 51:00
well i wasn't speaking i don't think it
- 51:01
was that good of a record
- 51:03
but you don't know because it didn't
- 51:06
come out
- 51:07
the song like right now the song still
- 51:10
is not out
- 51:11
there
- 51:14
listen to the song nowhere it has to be
- 51:16
out at this point but i don't think she
- 51:18
deserves it
- 51:18
it was released as a single on november
- 51:21
13th 2019. oh that's mad time for the
- 51:23
win
- 51:23
oh then if if you say that then you
- 51:25
don't understand submissions
- 51:27
i'm supposed to say 2019. you don't
- 51:29
unders like
- 51:30
no wait was at least when 2019 november
- 51:34
something that's why uh that's that's
- 51:35
that's that's you know the grammys
- 51:38
that's not that's not what they reported
- 51:39
on the news i don't know well we can
- 51:41
always
- 51:42
just saying this wrong we can google it
- 51:43
we can check it out i'm looking at the
- 51:45
uh wikipedia right now but even if they
- 51:47
rigged it i don't care
- 51:49
right i don't care like i was happy
- 51:52
about the whole ordeal
- 51:53
all of it i was and it was a good watch
- 51:56
i wouldn't be mad if they returned next
- 51:58
year doing it in a similar fashion
- 52:01
they they did it for twitter they did it
- 52:03
for the internet it seemed like
- 52:05
um trevor no i wasn't mad at i like
- 52:07
trevor i'm not mad at that
- 52:09
man i got i got a question about that
- 52:10
though uh trevor noah
- 52:12
and i i don't follow him enough to know
- 52:14
is that how he really looks
- 52:15
yeah like the weekend okay yeah i just
- 52:18
wanted to like the weekend okay well you
- 52:19
used to have a uh
- 52:22
no well i just asked that because
- 52:26
i found it when when i watched the
- 52:27
grammys and i found it kind of
- 52:30
funny to me i'm like oh they was going
- 52:31
to get the weekend here regardless okay
- 52:32
you're not going to show up we're going
- 52:33
to bring our own weekend
- 52:34
and that's what it looked like to me he
- 52:36
got the same mustache the same look
- 52:38
i'm like from a distance that looks like
- 52:40
the weekend so we're going to we're
- 52:41
going to get him here one way or another
- 52:43
time to ask that question as a comedian
- 52:46
yeah so that was intentional then
- 52:48
okay no no no no he's he's been growing
- 52:50
his hair out like this yeah
- 52:51
yeah since the quarantine yeah he's a
- 52:53
star boy
- 52:55
he's a star he's been a star yeah i want
- 52:57
to try to be funny because i i guess i
- 52:58
don't know enough about every time you
- 53:00
say that something funny comes out of
- 53:01
your mouth
- 53:02
it's like when people say no disrespect
- 53:04
disrespect immediately follows
- 53:06
yeah got it so i don't want to misplace
- 53:08
any anger and i'm going to leave this
- 53:09
grammy conversation in a couple of
- 53:11
seconds but let me just rap for some
- 53:12
people right quick
- 53:14
as i'm watching the dojo cat performance
- 53:16
that she bodied
- 53:17
along with the video that she dropped to
- 53:19
the meme that i didn't know where that
- 53:21
sexy ass beat came from all of that was
- 53:23
great she's been killing
- 53:25
right but she gets up there and at the
- 53:27
end of one of her verses the last four
- 53:29
bars was
- 53:30
for me reminiscent of nicki minaj you
- 53:32
hit it right on the head bro
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yeah she has a she uh when she raps she
- 53:35
has some nikki she doesn't hide it
- 53:37
she doesn't hide it she says that
- 53:38
nicki's an inspiration to her is one of
- 53:40
the greatest
- 53:40
ever it was awesome right and when she
- 53:43
said that i immediately thought of nas
- 53:44
winning his grammy after
- 53:46
x amount of nominations and the grammys
- 53:49
doing the right thing
- 53:50
and then i thought about all the
- 53:53
confirmation that we as
- 53:54
artists get from the grammys when we're
- 53:56
nominated or deemed a winner
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and nicki minaj popped in my head of
- 54:01
course
- 54:03
because it's like okay
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even if you played a game where you want
- 54:09
to win the grammy because your label
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spent
- 54:11
x amount of dollars and your album did x
- 54:14
amount of platinum so
- 54:15
you should win so your rates can go up
- 54:17
if it says grammy nominated blah blah
- 54:19
blah
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blah in the event that that doesn't
- 54:21
happen who the [ __ ] are y'all to say
- 54:23
that y'all
- 54:24
are the reason why it does your thinking
- 54:26
is why it doesn't happen right like
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nas winning under these circumstances
- 54:30
all of these nominations and years later
- 54:32
for me as a hip-hop
- 54:34
enthusiast it's funny to me it's funny
- 54:37
nikki having inspired so many of the
- 54:40
younger women that are dominating if you
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ask joe i think women will continue to
- 54:44
dominate for the foreseeable future
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i think some credence has to go into
- 54:49
that and you have to acknowledge
- 54:51
that you don't see the trend they don't
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respect queens
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um and when he says queens he means the
- 54:59
girl the borrower yeah
- 55:01
okay you think i've ever tried no i was
- 55:02
confused when he said that but the first
- 55:04
time i like when he said that to me in a
- 55:06
private conversation i was confused
- 55:07
that's all
- 55:09
i might have something that slow i might
- 55:11
be it might be the slow frame i'll tell
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you guys one of the ones who boycotted
- 55:14
years back too okay if i'm not mistaken
- 55:18
i read there was a list of like everyone
- 55:20
all the hip hop acts that who at
- 55:21
some point boycotted the grammys and i
- 55:23
believe he was on there nicki minaj
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needs her flowers
- 55:26
sure whoever whoever the grammy board is
- 55:30
whoever's on there y'all are not the
- 55:32
ones that get to determine
- 55:34
that nicki minaj and all of her impact
- 55:37
and influence
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don't get to win an award i'm sorry
- 55:41
i'm done with those days y'all are not
- 55:44
the [ __ ]
- 55:46
gatekeepers the barriers of entry y'all
- 55:49
and that any of that what she did
- 55:51
she did that and now we're at a place
- 55:54
where we have to acknowledge the
- 55:56
not impersonators but the people who
- 55:58
were inspired
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by that act it's the same thing like
- 56:02
when some of these people win i see the
- 56:04
drake influence
- 56:05
there call me a dick rider who knows
- 56:08
but nikki is in that same boat i don't
- 56:10
think too many more years need to go by
- 56:12
where she is not awarded for efforts
- 56:14
that's how i felt
- 56:15
watching dozier cat and some of the
- 56:18
winners there
- 56:18
and you know what really pisses me off
- 56:20
about like kind of what you're saying
- 56:22
there
- 56:23
god forbid something were to happen to
- 56:25
nikki
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flowers galore flowers exactly then
- 56:30
everyone wants to come out then it's
- 56:31
lifetime achievement and it's every
- 56:32
award every award show is going to give
- 56:34
you
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every award imaginable
- 56:38
what nothing changed in a year it's not
- 56:40
like like your contributions change your
- 56:42
music change your impact change
- 56:43
nothing's changed in that top from this
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award show to the next one
- 56:47
except you're not here to stand up there
- 56:49
and give your accepted speech that's the
- 56:51
only thing that changed but now you get
- 56:53
honored for everything
- 56:54
her dna was all over this award show
- 56:57
right
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like it's not just a big these
- 56:59
tricksters are songs
- 57:01
it's her dna like and it's funny you say
- 57:02
that because i said the same thing
- 57:04
on my podcast it's like yo nicki minaj
- 57:07
appreciation
- 57:08
should be a thing because none of this
- 57:11
even looks like this without her
- 57:13
right and i prefaced it with i'm young i
- 57:16
know i'm the young guy i didn't live
- 57:17
through the little kim era
- 57:19
i didn't live through foxy brown i
- 57:21
didn't see that so for me
- 57:22
nicki minaj was the that that go-to
- 57:25
female rapper she took what
- 57:28
being that you weren't you're like i
- 57:30
wasn't there i wasn't there okay
- 57:32
they set the the the foundation she
- 57:35
built the [ __ ] castle on top of
- 57:37
foundation she showed how to be
- 57:44
but she doesn't get appreciated for it
- 57:46
so i'm glad that joe mentioned it gets
- 57:48
me like
- 57:48
because then the second someone mentions
- 57:50
her the argument comes in
- 57:52
oh yeah she was inspired by kim like so
- 57:54
you're still going to jump over her
- 57:55
you'll give the you'll give the flowers
- 57:57
to the people before her
- 57:59
and the people after her but but not her
- 58:01
you know what's [ __ ] up about that
- 58:03
because the grammys isn't going to say
- 58:05
little kim deserves the flowers right
- 58:07
they're not gonna say that
- 58:09
they're never gonna mention lil kim in
- 58:11
that regard
- 58:12
but then they need they they they don't
- 58:15
acknowledge her for the pop star either
- 58:17
and we don't really acknowledge her for
- 58:20
that um
- 58:21
what she's done in the same breath why
- 58:23
are we at lack of a
- 58:25
lack of acknowledgement did the grammys
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do the
- 58:29
rest in peace television board to all
- 58:31
the people that passed it
- 58:32
they did yeah they they
- 58:40
doom was there got it i wish they would
- 58:42
throw him fred in but i guess i get it
- 58:44
he wasn't on a mainstream thing but that
- 58:46
would have been a nice culture
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yeah he should have been there but they
- 58:50
you know
- 58:51
they said oh we also have a list of a
- 58:53
thousand other people on the website you
- 58:54
can go check that out
- 58:56
which i thought was kind of funny i
- 58:57
don't like that i don't like that i
- 58:58
don't like that recipe's freddie gothson
- 59:00
absolutely rest in peace
- 59:08
so maybe that's why they throw it on the
- 59:09
website because there was so much
- 59:11
depth in the last year and i'm not even
- 59:13
just talking hip-hop yeah
- 59:15
music all music it's a lot yeah it was a
- 59:17
lot of depth last year so i i
- 59:19
i'll cut them some slack yeah that they
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said hey go to this website and check
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out
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all the people that passed away because
- 59:25
we're just going to put some of the
- 59:26
notable or more known people here
- 59:28
on you know while they got the show one
- 59:30
thing i thought about with the grammys
- 59:32
too is
- 59:32
you know the the age-old discussion is
- 59:34
we got to make our own [ __ ] we got to
- 59:36
make our own [ __ ]
- 59:37
but we have some of our own [ __ ] in the
- 59:39
the bt hip-hop awards the bt
- 59:41
uh podcast words the soul uh uh
- 59:45
soldiering
- 59:46
awards and i think that we need to just
- 59:49
also put stock in that the same way
- 59:51
because sometimes it feels like oh well
- 59:53
it's just a little bt award or something
- 59:54
like that and that's not cool either
- 59:56
like we should we should put them on the
- 59:57
same pedestal as we put the grammys on
- 1:00:00
as
- 1:00:01
opposed to saying oh man we gotta start
- 1:00:03
our own [ __ ] we got
- 1:00:04
our own grammys we they kind of exist
- 1:00:07
and we just don't give them enough
- 1:00:08
credit
- 1:00:08
in my opinion it's it's it's it's
- 1:00:11
because we're still looking for
- 1:00:12
acceptance outside of our own that's
- 1:00:14
really what it all boils down to
- 1:00:16
like the bet awards is just us the
- 1:00:18
grammys is uh
- 1:00:19
it's them and us so we want to be
- 1:00:22
accepted outside of our own well the bbt
- 1:00:25
awards is not just us
- 1:00:27
viacom
- 1:00:30
this is true y'all it's never just
- 1:00:31
enough anywhere it's not yeah it's
- 1:00:33
really not it's really not very good
- 1:00:34
but that's the point i had to learn as a
- 1:00:36
creator like throughout my career in
- 1:00:38
hindsight i'm looking at the
- 1:00:40
the road traveled and i'm like all right
- 1:00:43
man when they
- 1:00:44
get to trying to rob me or they get to
- 1:00:46
trying to scam me or to get to trying to
- 1:00:48
might not
- 1:00:49
monetize something that they didn't
- 1:00:50
participate in
- 1:00:52
my advantage is as a creator i can go
- 1:00:54
somewhere else
- 1:00:55
and create something they can't so they
- 1:00:57
won't know what to see
- 1:00:59
when i create it the downfall in that is
- 1:01:02
that as a creator anywhere that you go
- 1:01:04
to create something those people are
- 1:01:06
coming
- 1:01:07
yeah you're not going to escape them so
- 1:01:10
you better learn how to coexist
- 1:01:13
or live with it and that's the truth of
- 1:01:16
the matter
- 1:01:17
um i know we want to talk about new
- 1:01:18
music because there is new music that
- 1:01:21
came out even if i didn't hear it but
- 1:01:22
before we get to that we were talking
- 1:01:24
about nikki i want to stay on
- 1:01:25
female rappers for a quick second this
- 1:01:28
week
- 1:01:29
i saw uh
- 1:01:32
justin la's justin l.a
- 1:01:44
with sweetie and uh and prince and puff
- 1:01:47
sunflowers i saw a couple
- 1:01:48
it's justin justin i mean i'm sorry
- 1:01:50
justin cohen justin
- 1:01:52
justin justin justin i'm sorry i'm sorry
- 1:01:54
i'm sorry yeah
- 1:01:55
justin just in la boy
- 1:01:59
okay that group i'll take it and sweetie
- 1:02:03
right is it sweetie all right is she
- 1:02:06
okay in terms of what i just like to
- 1:02:08
check i mean she looks like okay in the
- 1:02:09
video every time i see it she looks
- 1:02:11
pretty good important that you know
- 1:02:12
you said no right just in general you
- 1:02:14
know yeah
- 1:02:16
anyway new music music
- 1:02:32
so i'm not mad at it benny the butcher
- 1:02:35
the plugs i met two
- 1:02:36
out now in your phones right now uh he's
- 1:02:38
been
- 1:02:39
working on this for a while promoting
- 1:02:40
this for a while mm-hmm uh i did get a
- 1:02:43
chance to listen to a little bit of it
- 1:02:44
yeah i heard the whole thing it's been i
- 1:02:46
suppose
- 1:02:49
and this is coming from anybody who
- 1:02:51
knows me no i do not
- 1:02:52
i'm i'm not team griselda like everybody
- 1:02:55
else
- 1:02:56
really you know i have my own stance
- 1:02:58
when it comes to them you can't sit in
- 1:02:59
the ice seat and say that man
- 1:03:01
you mean more expensive i mean
- 1:03:04
i'm just saying yes
- 1:03:10
that's that's more you know that's the
- 1:03:12
monster that's going to be funny
- 1:03:14
yeah uh why not though
- 1:03:17
um i i i do think benny and
- 1:03:20
conway can rap i also say that
- 1:03:25
i've heard too much of the exact same
- 1:03:27
thing from them for too long
- 1:03:29
so the it's the production you're
- 1:03:30
waiting to change it's everything so
- 1:03:32
you whatever you're giving me this
- 1:03:33
before what if that's just this sound
- 1:03:34
and that's where we have with it and
- 1:03:36
that's fine
- 1:03:36
oh it's not for me it's not for you okay
- 1:03:38
which is why i don't listen you know
- 1:03:39
because you want to see them do trap
- 1:03:41
nah i don't want to see them do trap
- 1:03:42
like i said earlier today are you like a
- 1:03:44
pop type dude right
- 1:03:45
no i said earlier today yeah i count
- 1:03:47
some trap joints though i'd pay proud to
- 1:03:49
pay
- 1:03:49
proud to pay prices which was you know
- 1:03:51
nipsey's uh thing
- 1:03:53
to hear benny over heat makers a whole
- 1:03:55
project i like that
- 1:03:56
shut up i would joe why you
- 1:04:00
why are you mad at that that's real [ __ ]
- 1:04:01
though i'm not mad at that though
- 1:04:03
what what's the problem with that i
- 1:04:05
don't like the same sound that i hear i
- 1:04:06
don't like derringer beats i don't like
- 1:04:08
hearing them over alchemist beats
- 1:04:09
i don't like freddie gibbs over
- 1:04:10
alchemist beasts i don't like royce over
- 1:04:12
these beasts like
- 1:04:13
i don't know what i don't know about it
- 1:04:17
i don't like that i hate that sound to
- 1:04:19
me and uh me and parks we've had this
- 1:04:21
talk
- 1:04:21
in the past that sound to me i jokingly
- 1:04:24
call it the boom boombap
- 1:04:25
it's a joke i know it's not the
- 1:04:27
traditional boombap sound this is more
- 1:04:29
boombap in a way
- 1:04:31
i know the sound to me is that
- 1:04:34
late 90s gritty new york era sound
- 1:04:38
okay i don't like that i don't want it
- 1:04:40
i'm not a fan of
- 1:04:41
premiere production for example you know
- 1:04:43
you have to get out
- 1:04:47
you can't wish them all can you come on
- 1:04:51
what i'm just saying like so that was my
- 1:04:53
that was my knock against them
- 1:04:55
it worked for them so by all means right
- 1:04:57
you know look at
- 1:04:58
gibbs and alchemists got nominated for
- 1:05:00
grammy so i'm not saying that it's whack
- 1:05:02
right it's not for me i want i was a
- 1:05:04
gibbs fan when he was rapping over the
- 1:05:06
trap beats
- 1:05:06
do you like him over mad lib no okay no
- 1:05:09
so he really just doesn't like that
- 1:05:11
sound yeah i don't like that
- 1:05:12
you don't like the sound so it's not
- 1:05:14
benny no it's not the sound
- 1:05:16
i've heard i have i have a project in my
- 1:05:18
phone that i put together called
- 1:05:20
uh benny the butcher guest appearances
- 1:05:21
and it's every feature that he's ever
- 1:05:23
done
- 1:05:24
outside of the griselda in-house and
- 1:05:26
he's killed it like this [ __ ] is fire
- 1:05:28
so you want i like different you want to
- 1:05:31
hear him over like mustard
- 1:05:33
hell no hell no
- 1:05:45
[Music]
- 1:05:48
but now it's funny that you mentioned a
- 1:05:50
uh production thing because i thought
- 1:05:52
the same thing too
- 1:05:54
his last project that he did with hit
- 1:05:56
boy yeah that's still in my rotation
- 1:05:58
like i think hip boy kind of set himself
- 1:06:01
apart
- 1:06:02
when i listen to this because i don't
- 1:06:04
get the same feeling
- 1:06:06
and there's no disrespect and no slight
- 1:06:07
to harry fraud but i don't get that same
- 1:06:09
feeling from the project that he did
- 1:06:11
with hit boy
- 1:06:12
like this song uh plug talk featuring
- 1:06:14
two change from
- 1:06:15
for me it sounded like he was chasing
- 1:06:18
that sound that ice is talking about
- 1:06:20
like he was trying to stay current he
- 1:06:21
was trying to stay in that flow that
- 1:06:23
cadence
- 1:06:23
and for me i was like yo i gotta go back
- 1:06:26
to burning the proof
- 1:06:27
can i reply to that for sure you know he
- 1:06:29
has a drake record in his pocket
- 1:06:31
if he was trying to stay relevant and
- 1:06:33
mainstream
- 1:06:34
i heard it i know but it's not on here
- 1:06:37
so what do you think of that if he if
- 1:06:40
that were his goal
- 1:06:41
why wouldn't he try to drop that i'm
- 1:06:43
pretty sure that he could go ahead and
- 1:06:44
get
- 1:06:45
any type of trap producer to do album
- 1:06:46
with him and i think that's awesome
- 1:06:49
i think drake also was like hey when
- 1:06:51
it's time then let's go there
- 1:06:53
i i don't think that's just a benny
- 1:06:54
decision to say hey i'm gonna drop
- 1:06:56
the drake record yeah so maybe he wanted
- 1:07:00
to put it on
- 1:07:01
on on the last project or on this well
- 1:07:03
he said he i saw
- 1:07:04
something he said a couple days ago
- 1:07:05
where he said he can't wait to get that
- 1:07:06
record yeah that's right and he said
- 1:07:08
that
- 1:07:08
he was here obviously that means i want
- 1:07:11
this record to come out but for other
- 1:07:12
reasons it means you have to wait on a
- 1:07:14
plan
- 1:07:15
right and a team to work around that
- 1:07:17
record so
- 1:07:18
it's a drake record so you know it's too
- 1:07:19
big you're not going to put this on the
- 1:07:20
plugs i meant
- 1:07:21
to i would assume no yeah put this on i
- 1:07:24
don't know
- 1:07:25
what an industry i mean on a label album
- 1:07:27
or something yeah maybe
- 1:07:28
yeah something somewhere there's a 100
- 1:07:31
okay
- 1:07:32
a bigger marketing plan and [ __ ] and
- 1:07:34
honestly the other thing i'm
- 1:07:35
i'm per i'm only speaking for me i'm
- 1:07:37
getting tired of the
- 1:07:40
rapper one producer albums really i like
- 1:07:42
to mix it up
- 1:07:43
show me some versatility and that that's
- 1:07:45
again that's the thing about these guys
- 1:07:47
it's the same thing over and over i've
- 1:07:50
heard your story i've heard you like you
- 1:07:51
can rap
- 1:07:52
i'm not taking it just kind of his last
- 1:07:54
album conway's last album
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