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Episode 461

It's STFU Week

Joe Budden Podcast Episode 461, “It's STFU Week,” released August 9, 2021. Hip Hop had and amazing week and was nothing short of iconic! Joe's passion for Hip Hop is on full display this episode as he ensured that every possible aspect of the LOX and Dipset Verzuz battle was dissected (7:45). The crew gives the LOX their flowers while also discussing some of the ways that Dipset could have improved their chances to win the crowd's support (34:00). Kanye West had another virtual listening party for his upcoming album (1:28:15), Nas drops "King Disease II" and brings Lauryn Hill from retirement (1:35:26), the guys have quick conversation about the top 10 MC’s of all time (1:57:50) and MORE! Full transcript and searchable timestamps below.

It's STFU Week

In this episode

  • 7:45Joe's passion for Hip Hop is on full display this episode as he ensured that every possible aspect of the LOX…
  • 34:00The crew gives the LOX their flowers while also discussing some of the ways that Dipset could have improved th…
  • 1:28:15Kanye West had another virtual listening party for his upcoming album
  • 1:35:26Nas drops "King Disease II" and brings Lauryn Hill from retirement
  • 1:57:50The guys have quick conversation about the top 10 MC’s of all time
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Joe Budden Podcast Ep. 461 Transcript

Full transcript of It's STFU Week (1:11:26 long). Search it, or click any timestamp to jump to that moment.

  • 0:09

    joe

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    this is joseph anthony budden

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    jr looking for d dj

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    drama this is a live call

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    don't hey about anything incriminating

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    but you were the first person that i was

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    gonna call let me just lick a gunshot

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    how you doing how's your family how's

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    your parents how's work great awesome

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    now

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    [Laughter]

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    do you have anything that you want to

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    say to me

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    yonkers uh

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    the audience just do you have anything

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    that you feel you might want to say to

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    me

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    i mean it depends if they heard the last

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    episode that i was on or not

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    if they didn't have the last episode i i

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    just want to say that i love hip hop

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    if they did hear the last episode the

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    yonkers

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    to joe budden and the joe button podcast

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    i would like to apologize

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    for feeling like dipset was just going

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    to smoke the rocks

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    i was so wrong oh i was so wrong but i'm

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    not one that hates to be wrong you know

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    wrong is wrong and

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    i was happy to see the locks really

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    stand up for the culture and

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    show the difference in you know being

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    cool and caring

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    and really being on taking one for the

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    craft and putting on a master class like

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    they did so

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    with all the respect styles chic jada

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    and joe button i was wrong

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    no no no no amazing no no no that was

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    amazing no

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    no no listen to this nah

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    [ __ ] all that that's totally

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    unacceptable everything that you just

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    said

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    is totally totally unacceptable listen i

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    don't know what the audience has heard

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    because i love you and i did not expose

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    our behind-the-scenes conversations

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    but this is a hindsight talk so i'm here

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    to talk hindsight

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    and behind the scenes i'll come clean

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    i said the locks were going to smoke

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    these [ __ ] boots

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    right there i said that yeah you said it

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    so this is my issue with what you're

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    saying

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    no no no no hold on let me finish you

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    are a bill

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    bo i just seen what billboard said about

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    you y'all [ __ ] is the top 20 [ __ ]

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    you and your [ __ ]

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    [Laughter]

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    billboard said that you are the top

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    exec you're one of the greatest djs we

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    got

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    you still running around you're signing

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    the hot [ __ ] you're doing the work

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    you out here out here it's important for

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    [ __ ] like you

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    to know that the lox is deluxe

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    let's put it in perspective though with

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    all that being said and you're

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    absolutely right

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    here's the difference right if it was a

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    year ago

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    and the world was in the state that it

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    was in and that versus

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    versus wouldn't be the million-dollar

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    business that it is now and those were

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    they would have been let's say they

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    would have been in their individual

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    homes

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    in a sense or we would have all been

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    watching on instagram there would have

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    been no live performance

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    the dip set records would have rang off

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    a little differently and let's say their

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    performances wouldn't have been what

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    they were

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    it would have been a different contest

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    because the reason why a lot of people

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    felt that dipset was going to win was

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    because of the effects that they had on

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    culture right

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    but after we saw what we saw wednesday

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    night was regardless of

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    what happened in culture and what's cool

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    and how things changed and

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    how many change you can put on again the

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    locks put on a master class because it

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    was in madison square garden

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    there was a crowd there was a

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    performance and like i heard she

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    say when he was talking to diddy like yo

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    did he said to him like yo perform your

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    freestyles

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    they're going to outdo their records and

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    like jaded was saying like yo we in new

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    york y'all like they're rapping over the

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    songs like

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    just the fact of how much the locks

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    cared about and how they put on their

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    show

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    and the fact that there was a live crowd

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    i could i was i was in atlanta in my

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    crib

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    my girl was telling me i was fangirling

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    out because i was standing in front of

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    the television watching it

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    because you could feel the energy so

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    feel it yeah everybody

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    from what they was doing so that that's

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    also a difference

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    it was different but one of the they

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    were they weren't able to show

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    what the difference is when you care

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    when you really do this

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    compared to just coming up there looking

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    like so basically

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    that was the long-winded way of saying

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    that if they were in

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    rizza's living room and if boys to men

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    was there

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    and if quincy jones was facetiming then

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    it would have went different probably

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    right

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    basically yeah but at the end i mean

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    yeah but you know

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    listen man i mean it was one it was the

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    best versus battle because that's

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    all that all the all the fun

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    congratulatory [ __ ] like

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    you know we're all here for the culture

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    and and celebrating that's good we all

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    love that

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    but you come from the cloth that i come

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    from that you come from

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    they come yeah that's what we want to

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    see you feel what i'm saying

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    and [ __ ] talking crazy to each other

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    telling each other

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    you don't do what i do like that's what

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    we want to see like

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    yep there's no there's no like that's

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    what that's what we come from so

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    that was the best representation i'd say

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    more than jeezy gucci

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    gucci was second to me to that one

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    that's number one like hands down and

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    kisses the mvp

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    and you know for referral joe i should

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    have i should have rethought myself

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    better when i was naming the underdog

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    so you should have rethought yourself

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    when i was naming all of the different

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    songs that the locks and jada kiss would

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    play

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    i didn't even count the freestyles

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    i didn't even count you didn't count the

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    freestyle i was going through [ __ ] they

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    they didn't even like damn and i don't

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    even know if it would have rang off the

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    same but

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    you know even some swiss and kiss [ __ ]

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    he didn't do it's real like

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    yeah you know he was he was he was

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    really he hit him with a [ __ ]

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    freestyle off a

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    champ is here three and murder dick is

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    like what are we talking about

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    like again but she was right i was

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    totally wrong

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    i admit to it i just love to hear that i

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    was right that's all that's all that

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    this call is for

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    he was right joe that's my man now

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    you're wrong about now now

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    i don't know if you noticed but your man

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    dj clue was getting a little excited

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    because it was a

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    it was a celebratory new york city event

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    he was a company in the comments talking

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    a lot of [ __ ] and i told him no

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    don't get froggy now because new york's

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    having a moment like i'll still bust

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    your ass so

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    you're wrong about that but i just want

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    to put that out there clue if you're

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    listening but listen

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    i've been calling you out for six months

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    don't get froggy

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    because you're always in madison square

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    garden drama drama

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    drama that's what you said about dipset

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    so

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    that's cool listen to this though you

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    still feel like that

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    about yourself versus clue even after

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    what you saw

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    like when those freestyles when those

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    freestyles are

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    become impactful like that like that

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    makes clue a whole different monster

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    nah i ain't gonna front like i told cool

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    i said yo the fact that

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    get at me dog and the benjamins were

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    both freestyles off your tape is

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    fire you know what i'm saying and those

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    are records like respectfully i'll give

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    him

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    i still at the end of the day again i'm

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    gonna put on a master class regardless

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    of who i go against you know what i'm

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    saying so

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    yeah i'm ready for it but i don't say it

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    it makes it more it makes it more of a

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    formidable opponent and i love that you

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    know what i'm saying because again like

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    you know that he comes from that culture

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    and those records definitely ring off so

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    i'm here for it all right i'm going

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    gonna continue to try and instigate that

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    please do but yeah joe i apologize

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    round of applause for the amazing dj

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    drama let me let him get back to his day

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    enjoy yourself john we love you love

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    y'all

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    now last time i tried to do this

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    it was a lot of background noise

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    and i don't i didn't like that y'all let

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    me get a whole dip set

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    of intro off y'all didn't say a word

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    when i tried to get into my lox bag it

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    was resistance

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    so this week everybody shut the [ __ ] up

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    all the young [ __ ] if you listen out

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    there if you see me in the street on my

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    scooter

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    just shut the [ __ ] up alex alex why are

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    you out here

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    wait wait wait wait wait

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    young [ __ ] gotta go in the corner alex

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    how old are you

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    you're not old enough to be in the front

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    today only for today

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    only today okay yeah no don't do that

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    again

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    now i gotta start no i don't yeah i mean

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    i told ice last podcast i don't speak to

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    young [ __ ] about everything

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    not everything hip-hop this is one of

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    those weeks for me we're going to talk

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    about it

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    how old is lebron james 37 37 38

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    somewhere in there

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    nah lebron you still got shut the [ __ ]

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    up oh you don't know it don't matter 30

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    seconds

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    no he got to shut the [ __ ] up everybody

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    shut the [ __ ] up

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    all of the hip-hop loving pretenders we

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    got a culture full of pretenders

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    and the students in the ga of the game

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    such as myself

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    we gotta watch y'all all year round

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    y'all [ __ ] is getting money

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    y'all [ __ ] is getting deals y'all

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    [ __ ] is starting a cultural

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    conversation

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    this week though y'all shut the [ __ ] up

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    did y'all see chic oh my god

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    shout out to the first and last time

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    listeners shout out to all the real

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    hip-hop heads out there

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    damn shout out to yonkers shout out to

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    the locks dip said harlem

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    everybody that contributed to this being

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    an amazing [ __ ] week in hip-hop

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    [Music]

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    in my living room when this came on it

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    was a couple young people in there there

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    was a few people that was rooting that

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    were rooting for the dip set

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    in my living room um yep the dip said

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    they were rooting for them in my living

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    room um

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    surprised that they got in my living

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    room i had a

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    strict age age requirement to even make

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    it there

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    double check your bouncer man yeah a few

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    plus ones

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    lacking the plus one brought a plus one

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    left some things there

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    it's one of those um right

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    but when they started doing these

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    freestyles

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    it was quiet it was silence

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    now the people there these are my little

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    room they know what was going on

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    by the time by the time the freestyles

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    got there it should have been silent

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    anyway that's true not true

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    well yeah well yeah yeah that's true

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    let's let's keep it but what i mean is

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    even in the silence of the battle no

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    matter who you were rooting for

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    you could still jam to the songs when

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    the freestyles

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    came on only me and you looked at it

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    they didn't know everybody else's

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    question it was only

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    yeah got it got it i was singing

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    everything word for word doing

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    cartwheels

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    i couldn't even believe that these

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    freestyles were coming on

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    through my apple tv thingamajiggy

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    in 4k on this ola ed whatever type of tv

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    it is i couldn't believe this

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    like when i say this was a week to be a

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    student of hip hop

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    if you're a student witnessing where we

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    are

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    at the midway through 2021

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    with what's occurring and how it's

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    occurring i'm not going to try and geek

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    us out too much

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    nah we gotta get out today sorry but man

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    shout out to fat joe and his recap

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    amazing recap

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    amazing recap from someone that was

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    there

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    see but that's why we need people to

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    actually be there i'm an introvert i was

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    never gonna go but if i was gonna go

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    somewhere it would be there

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    and when i looked at the screen you know

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    what i said to myself

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    i said these young [ __ ] that's in my

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    living room having to shut the [ __ ] up

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    know what they would have to do in that

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    building

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    around that energy around that hip-hop

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    around that version of new york they

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    probably would have felt uncomfortable

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    no no no no what you're doing you're

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    uncomfortable sometimes

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    shut the [ __ ] up shut the [ __ ] up

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    and then i come in here today and then

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    savon runs in here

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    he runs outside during the uh mine and

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    parks and smoke break i thought dorsey

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    von started smoking

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    i don't say i thought he just picked up

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    a habit

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    i didn't say mom what are you doing out

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    here [ __ ] start drooling out the mouth

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    yeah i heard them i heard that

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    i heard lauren hill when you put that

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    lauren hill on i heard lauren hill went

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    crazy on the new nine but

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    wait wait wait wait wait young young boy

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    have you heard any of the other amazing

  • 12:45

    moments that happened on the

  • 12:46

    nos app hey did you hear that moment

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    moments

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    moments moments yeah moment yo

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    appropriately titled moment did you hear

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    that

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    he says no well guess what you gotta do

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    sevon

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    you gotta shut the [ __ ] up shut the [ __ ]

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    up

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    you don't get to control the ox this

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    week maybe you're not watching what's

  • 13:07

    happening

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    hey you [ __ ] get the rest of the year

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    yo hip-hop is yours hey logic came back

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    it's yours

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    this week though

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    no i'm sorry i'm not allowing it this

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    week let's talk let me look at you in

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    the face

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    i want to look you in the eyes another

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    one you another one

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    another save honest

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    cause you old enough you might be worse

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    cause you was outside you was old enough

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    i said to you yo

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    i think jadakiss can play ja rule

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    new york i said that to you because i

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    thought it was an impactful sentence

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    i thought it was impactful because i was

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    outside when that song came out

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    and i know all of y'all were killing ja

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    rule at the time

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    and he was in a fight for his life

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    but clapback worked y'all tried to erase

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    that from hip-hop it worked

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    that [ __ ] was going crazy in new york

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    new york worked worked

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    different and this is where my beef is

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    with you you laughed at me and said

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    welcome to new york city is going to

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    come on and you thought that was

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    supposed to shut me up

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    i shut up but in my head i said i don't

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    know about that one

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    no you can't do that why

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    what clubs were you in see i think

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    that's just what it boils down to

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    i've been in the club the new york clubs

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    me too

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    i've been in the new york clubs that

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    welcome to new york city in the middle

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    of the dip set set

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    if goldfinger was djing he used to get

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    business one of those

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    we were talking about was that cherry

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    lounge one of those

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    new york city was ringing

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    outside of new york city like

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    and the way i remember it hidden is how

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    to [ __ ] hit

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    that's not fair though no yeah that's

  • 15:15

    not a feeling

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    i can because i had no idea that it

  • 15:23

    would do that in that building against

  • 15:25

    the exact record that ice

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    said it did that for a little bit more

  • 15:28

    reason it did that for a bunch of

  • 15:30

    reasons yeah more give me more give me

  • 15:31

    more

  • 15:31

    give me more let's unpack it all i'm

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    here let's do it i'm gonna

  • 15:35

    [ __ ] i got my you got no

  • 15:38

    look no i

  • 15:44

    i tried to find the locks out they come

  • 15:45

    in here and represent you you should

  • 15:47

    have got locks

  • 15:50

    you should have just locked up on these

  • 15:52

    [ __ ]

  • 15:55

    yo the sound system i don't want to make

  • 16:00

    excuses

  • 16:01

    but but you're not excuse me i know i'm

  • 16:03

    just i'm stating the facts

  • 16:05

    dawg the sound system for them [ __ ]

  • 16:07

    that dipset had the dj all that [ __ ]

  • 16:10

    was kaka no no hold on that's a deeper

  • 16:13

    darker

  • 16:13

    let me finish that that's a deeper

  • 16:14

    darker because the sound system was a

  • 16:15

    sales system

  • 16:18

    eq whatever the [ __ ] oh

  • 16:23

    [Music]

  • 16:25

    disagreeing with any of that yeah what

  • 16:27

    i'm saying

  • 16:28

    is you couldn't even hear jay-z when

  • 16:30

    that song came on

  • 16:31

    you couldn't hear them they didn't mix

  • 16:33

    their records i agree

  • 16:35

    what i'm saying is that song definitely

  • 16:38

    hits

  • 16:39

    harder than that that dip set anthem

  • 16:42

    hits

  • 16:42

    harder than that well they was getting

  • 16:44

    their ass

  • 16:46

    it still didn't hit it still didn't hit

  • 16:47

    it well it was no saving them at that

  • 16:49

    point i'm not disagreeing

  • 16:50

    none of them [ __ ] songs could have had

  • 16:52

    hope come out and do the record with

  • 16:53

    them

  • 16:54

    yeah and it wouldn't matter yeah none of

  • 16:55

    them [ __ ] songs hit there are there

  • 16:57

    are a million different contributing

  • 16:59

    factors as to

  • 17:00

    why they lost we're gonna say that and

  • 17:02

    we're gonna go through all of them okay

  • 17:04

    you could you're going to go through all

  • 17:05

    of them the [ __ ]

  • 17:07

    it looked like the lock's been on tour

  • 17:09

    for the last six months see now you you

  • 17:11

    see now

  • 17:12

    let me slow you down because you quickly

  • 17:13

    running through them all just

  • 17:15

    looking with a casual eye but i no i

  • 17:18

    want to highlight them all

  • 17:20

    oh yeah we could do that i i've sat home

  • 17:23

    just observing it's impossible for me to

  • 17:26

    even get out all of my hip-hop thoughts

  • 17:28

    that i had just looking at things

  • 17:30

    this week boy it's been a fun week i

  • 17:32

    don't even remember the last time that

  • 17:33

    happened round of applause

  • 17:34

    and round of applause to the entire dip

  • 17:36

    set uh

  • 17:38

    jimmy jewells cam zeke

  • 17:42

    uh just everybody that was on stage uh

  • 17:45

    the locks everybody was in the audience

  • 17:47

    fat uh fat gel everybody i saw fab

  • 17:50

    like the energy was where it needed to

  • 17:52

    be in new york city

  • 17:55

    yeah yeah it was but the fight always

  • 17:57

    starts before the fight mm-hmm

  • 18:00

    and this one started a very long time

  • 18:02

    and i and i often

  • 18:04

    and i often when we get into these talks

  • 18:07

    just talk about

  • 18:09

    killers so let me start with

  • 18:13

    do y'all have anybody uh

  • 18:17

    from the dip set side on the killer list

  • 18:20

    no

  • 18:21

    and we're talking about uh musically by

  • 18:23

    the way cam clip we're not talking about

  • 18:25

    that and that's why that's why sam could

  • 18:26

    be and that's why i asked me

  • 18:28

    yeah yeah yeah of course no no can't can

  • 18:31

    maybe i would have camden

  • 18:32

    ice would have cam near maybe

  • 18:36

    but but if he's a killer he got three

  • 18:38

    bodies jada kiss got a whole cemetery

  • 18:40

    not only that like it's different levels

  • 18:43

    even in that

  • 18:44

    i i might be jumping a little bit but

  • 18:47

    cam didn't give a [ __ ] about this

  • 18:48

    he did and a lot of that showed and that

  • 18:51

    that's the thing

  • 18:52

    the 1mc and there's no disrespect to

  • 18:54

    joel's or jim because they have grown

  • 18:56

    into being mc's

  • 18:57

    in their career cam is only like

  • 19:00

    real real real mcmc in the group and he

  • 19:04

    didn't give a [ __ ] he didn't care

  • 19:05

    and cam got 20 something years in hip

  • 19:07

    hop like

  • 19:09

    he's cool he was supposed to be way too

  • 19:11

    cool we and i've

  • 19:12

    seen it happen jay the fat

  • 19:16

    too cool going up against that you can't

  • 19:18

    do it against a killer

  • 19:19

    you can't you can't play the two cool

  • 19:21

    role you have to come in here

  • 19:24

    this is war yeah like this is war like

  • 19:27

    one thing i noticed from the jada fab

  • 19:28

    [ __ ] and i seen it again here

  • 19:30

    with this verses i don't know if his

  • 19:32

    kid's doing it himself or

  • 19:34

    the dj what he's prepared yes

  • 19:37

    like yo i know they're going to play

  • 19:39

    this record and i'm going to when they

  • 19:40

    do

  • 19:40

    right after i got this hey shout out to

  • 19:42

    technician nice because having a dope dj

  • 19:45

    can y'all stop running through i might

  • 19:47

    be jumping i said i might be jumping

  • 19:49

    but the jumping cause is another jump uh

  • 19:52

    in every killer movie that you watch

  • 19:54

    don't they have to prepare

  • 19:57

    yeah they don't unless it's one of them

  • 20:00

    action movies where they're just trying

  • 20:01

    to get to a body count like they're

  • 20:02

    trying to kill you 600 sylvester

  • 20:03

    stallone and

  • 20:04

    antonio banderas remember that [ __ ] they

  • 20:06

    was in yeah

  • 20:07

    all the good ones yeah right you

  • 20:09

    actually you're following the card

  • 20:13

    it's a job it's preparation it's

  • 20:15

    preparation

  • 20:17

    so when jim fight before the fight so

  • 20:19

    when jim is playing with

  • 20:20

    jim is playing with styles and we all

  • 20:22

    had a blast watching it

  • 20:24

    it was great because wow that's great uh

  • 20:27

    two ogs uh clearly friends having a fun

  • 20:30

    back and forth but there's some truth in

  • 20:31

    the jokes so when jim is saying yo i

  • 20:34

    hope you're not gonna wear that

  • 20:36

    and styles is saying [ __ ] why are you

  • 20:38

    worried about what i'm wearing why are

  • 20:39

    we worried about clothes

  • 20:40

    don't cam got up there and start crying

  • 20:42

    i'm coming up i'm coming up there

  • 20:44

    to kill styles said it yeah and then he

  • 20:48

    said yo maybe i'm joking too i don't

  • 20:49

    even know how to joke i'm not used to

  • 20:51

    joking and jim kept joking and it was

  • 20:52

    all funny

  • 20:54

    right but there was something happening

  • 20:57

    it was something happening it was like

  • 20:58

    it was like when you see the url event

  • 20:59

    and they had a face-off

  • 21:01

    and you watching the fate prior to the

  • 21:02

    battle and it's like one person is

  • 21:04

    clearly setting the tone how this [ __ ]

  • 21:06

    is gonna go

  • 21:07

    and the other one maybe it's playing a

  • 21:09

    little light-hearted or something no

  • 21:10

    he's coming to kill you

  • 21:12

    that's what i took from that he was he

  • 21:15

    was coming to kill that should have been

  • 21:16

    clear from the jungle yeah if the

  • 21:18

    benjamins and the catalog didn't tell

  • 21:20

    you that they was coming to kill

  • 21:21

    and styles styles styles-ish jokes

  • 21:25

    didn't tell you they was coming to kill

  • 21:28

    jadakiss and sheik's silence should have

  • 21:30

    said something

  • 21:31

    you're not doing or the lack of or the

  • 21:33

    lack of

  • 21:35

    what seems to be i won't say camaraderie

  • 21:37

    but chemistry not chemistry but

  • 21:38

    the fact that uh dipset appears to not

  • 21:41

    have been together

  • 21:43

    and on the stage no no no no

  • 21:46

    no no but they did a commercial together

  • 21:49

    with a key key and laughing joking at

  • 21:51

    the table

  • 21:52

    like you wouldn't get and that and that

  • 21:53

    became more clear when the battle went

  • 21:55

    on and jadakiss says cam you in miami

  • 21:58

    well now that commercial looks like

  • 22:01

    jimin jewels went to miami to do a

  • 22:04

    commercial

  • 22:06

    i think jim lives in miami no i don't

  • 22:07

    know so same same [ __ ]

  • 22:09

    man i don't care i don't know who lives

  • 22:11

    where but i'm just saying

  • 22:12

    it didn't look like we together every

  • 22:15

    day and now we did a commercial it

  • 22:16

    looked like we got together we did a

  • 22:18

    commercial it was funny and blah blah

  • 22:19

    blah but

  • 22:20

    cool you somehow missed that these

  • 22:22

    [ __ ] was killers

  • 22:25

    eight o'clock nine thirty whatever the

  • 22:27

    time comes

  • 22:28

    for first [ __ ] on stage tech killing

  • 22:31

    killing killing killing killing killing

  • 22:34

    [ __ ] got mad when they're young

  • 22:36

    what do you mean kill her don't open the

  • 22:38

    open the set

  • 22:40

    i don't think he was killing at all i

  • 22:41

    was pissed off at him oh no he was going

  • 22:43

    crazy you're bugging him no i was going

  • 22:44

    crazy

  • 22:44

    all right that [ __ ] who was going you

  • 22:47

    know he wasn't i thought he was oh i did

  • 22:48

    too okay different things we don't have

  • 22:50

    to stay there okay but i thought he was

  • 22:51

    going crazy

  • 22:54

    you might have missed that no i didn't

  • 22:55

    when when when the locks came on stage

  • 22:58

    because they came out first they came

  • 22:59

    out on time michael buffer announced

  • 23:01

    them and they came out on twitter

  • 23:02

    together

  • 23:03

    three three men walking in unison

  • 23:10

    sat in the corner just like this yup

  • 23:12

    like a [ __ ] statue like i'm ready to

  • 23:14

    get busy

  • 23:15

    don't talk we're not laughing we're not

  • 23:17

    joking i'm ready to get busy they came

  • 23:19

    out they walked toward the audience

  • 23:21

    they did a new york head nod a salute

  • 23:23

    whatever they did and they put their

  • 23:24

    back to the crowd

  • 23:25

    facing back to the entrance we back to

  • 23:27

    looking at the entrance

  • 23:29

    we still we are not leaving killer mode

  • 23:31

    this whole night yeah

  • 23:33

    until it was over you ain't see a smile

  • 23:35

    till it was like round

  • 23:36

    90. dipstick comes out a little late

  • 23:40

    mad like no no you jumping go ahead

  • 23:42

    dipset gets announced

  • 23:44

    and nothing happens and nothing happens

  • 23:46

    and then jaden and them have to say yo

  • 23:48

    get them [ __ ] to the stage now uh-oh

  • 23:51

    bring them [ __ ] here and at that point

  • 23:54

    it started for me in my head it started

  • 23:56

    to feel like the energy

  • 23:58

    that i was saying might happen

  • 24:01

    when i said if they lead off with [ __ ]

  • 24:03

    you i don't care if they don't get the

  • 24:05

    point but

  • 24:06

    you're setting the tone prior to the

  • 24:08

    ending i know being played

  • 24:10

    the tone was set yeah the tone was set

  • 24:12

    prior to any song being played

  • 24:14

    you got dipset walking out and it's just

  • 24:18

    jim jewels and zeke no it's 90 [ __ ]

  • 24:21

    no no it's jim jewells and zeke followed

  • 24:23

    by 90 [ __ ] yeah

  • 24:24

    the locks came in there like fam i could

  • 24:27

    fight

  • 24:28

    i could come by myself i could fight i

  • 24:30

    know y'all deep i'm i'm coming by myself

  • 24:32

    i could fight

  • 24:34

    when m3 [ __ ] walked down the stage

  • 24:36

    styles pumping on his chest hitting his

  • 24:38

    chest

  • 24:38

    jada was quiet as a church mouse and sat

  • 24:41

    in the corner with a straight face like

  • 24:42

    this

  • 24:43

    well what it did it put a lot more again

  • 24:46

    back to

  • 24:46

    my student [ __ ] it put a lot more under

  • 24:48

    the microscope

  • 24:51

    juelz came out looking like

  • 24:55

    we know juelz

  • 24:59

    in in this era the new age bandana with

  • 25:01

    their hands it was the same jewels it

  • 25:03

    was the same

  • 25:04

    updated jewels

  • 25:07

    but is that the jewels that needed to be

  • 25:09

    there no

  • 25:11

    i don't know yeah it's not it's not

  • 25:13

    something you would ever thought about

  • 25:14

    before

  • 25:15

    but when you see it standing next to

  • 25:18

    the killers you just look at it a little

  • 25:21

    different

  • 25:22

    jim looked like jim yeah

  • 25:28

    and that's fine because jim is jim today

  • 25:32

    you want jim to be jen yeah yeah and

  • 25:34

    then cam

  • 25:35

    came out and

  • 25:38

    maybe it was me he wasn't feeling the

  • 25:40

    lawn chair

  • 25:42

    i wasn't feeling none of it it fam they

  • 25:45

    came for

  • 25:45

    them they came for the show and these

  • 25:48

    [ __ ] came

  • 25:49

    to kill what are you doing you brought a

  • 25:51

    lawn chair

  • 25:52

    out to a certified killer

  • 26:09

    i disagree jada kissing them [ __ ] are

  • 26:12

    killers since

  • 26:13

    96. this is what isn't and you brought a

  • 26:17

    beach chair

  • 26:19

    don't tell me about a killer list

  • 26:22

    you don't tell me about this [ __ ] being

  • 26:24

    on a killer list that's true

  • 26:26

    you don't understand what it takes

  • 26:28

    mentally to you put a beach chair

  • 26:31

    that beats [ __ ] ain't gonna burn that

  • 26:32

    whole night

  • 26:35

    look at this [ __ ] face that [ __ ] got

  • 26:36

    abandoned

  • 26:38

    these [ __ ] is looking like team usa

  • 26:41

    when the hawaii [ __ ]

  • 26:43

    start doing the cultural the dance

  • 26:46

    that's how they yeah

  • 27:19

    [ __ ] core who you go first you go

  • 27:20

    first you go first why did cam do that

  • 27:22

    with jadakiss [ __ ] we home y'all y'all

  • 27:24

    could go first

  • 27:25

    but wait what when cam said that and you

  • 27:28

    did you see the reaction

  • 27:29

    and the building didn't quite do what i

  • 27:32

    think

  • 27:33

    i think most people thought that it

  • 27:34

    would do yeah they were supposed to

  • 27:35

    because it's hard to go up technically

  • 27:37

    cam is right

  • 27:38

    that's manhattan it's harlem we just did

  • 27:41

    the knicks commercial here the next have

  • 27:43

    invited us to the playoff we this is our

  • 27:45

    ship we did we did they saw [ __ ]

  • 27:46

    right but jay the kid said [ __ ] you not

  • 27:50

    you live in miami that was the worst

  • 27:54

    voice that was the worst picture that

  • 27:55

    could have been no and and then

  • 27:58

    said drop my record yeah why am i

  • 27:59

    arguing with you yeah no

  • 28:01

    yo why am i going back i don't want to

  • 28:03

    do none of that out there

  • 28:05

    y'all go in the corners play your song

  • 28:07

    we're going to go over here we're going

  • 28:08

    to shut the [ __ ] up

  • 28:09

    play your joints don't distract the

  • 28:11

    people don't crack on styles

  • 28:13

    clothes don't do none of

  • 28:18

    dog you live in miami tech let's go

  • 28:22

    and then [ __ ] you comes on you set the

  • 28:24

    stage and new in the hulu theater in new

  • 28:27

    york city and i'm

  • 28:28

    in that room full of hey i recognized

  • 28:30

    some of y'all that was in there

  • 28:35

    that's why i was home no no i saw i

  • 28:38

    don't know

  • 28:38

    i knew you all would be there seen a

  • 28:40

    couple uh

  • 28:41

    when [ __ ] you came somebody would have

  • 28:43

    stabbed me somebody would have stabbed

  • 28:45

    me i'm gonna elbow somebody a face by

  • 28:46

    mistake

  • 28:47

    they [ __ ] shank me right on up yo

  • 28:50

    [ __ ] you came on what i told you

  • 28:51

    win or lose once the tone is set

  • 28:55

    man i don't know i don't know what they

  • 28:57

    play hey yo pull up pull up the what

  • 28:58

    went back put up pull up one

  • 29:00

    i'm ready after that they went they they

  • 29:02

    follow you know when i'm ready but

  • 29:03

    even that now let's get hold on can i

  • 29:06

    yeah

  • 29:09

    love that the locks open will [ __ ] you

  • 29:10

    yeah so once i hear i'm ready i said

  • 29:12

    okay let's get it that's what i thought

  • 29:14

    i'm ooh slugfest

  • 29:15

    you know no hold up you [ __ ] don't

  • 29:17

    know the words not if you're not ready i

  • 29:18

    know but then this is not ready right

  • 29:19

    right right right right right right

  • 29:20

    and this was the difference this was the

  • 29:22

    difference dirty [ __ ] you wait

  • 29:24

    [ __ ] you styles is over there [ __ ]

  • 29:26

    with cam on the chair

  • 29:28

    kissed in his whole verse word for word

  • 29:31

    word for word

  • 29:32

    never even notices styles wasn't really

  • 29:34

    rapping because he was over there

  • 29:35

    [ __ ] with cam

  • 29:36

    i'm ready comes on i don't know what the

  • 29:39

    [ __ ] drew else was rapping but it was

  • 29:40

    not that song no he was four bars ahead

  • 29:41

    the whole time

  • 29:42

    bruh but even with that and hold on

  • 29:46

    real quick and they're playing the

  • 29:49

    actual

  • 29:50

    song right exactly they're not even

  • 29:53

    playing a tv

  • 29:54

    track they're not playing instrumental

  • 29:57

    they're just rapping over their lyrics

  • 29:58

    and getting them wrong which gets us to

  • 30:01

    ish's point

  • 30:02

    right i think that's what you're about

  • 30:03

    to say to isha's point

  • 30:05

    and this is why it shut the [ __ ] up week

  • 30:08

    because you have to remember the time

  • 30:09

    like michael jackson

  • 30:11

    that whole i'm ready error that wasn't

  • 30:14

    uh what's this new pristine mixing

  • 30:16

    sound what'd they call it on apple's

  • 30:18

    spaceship

  • 30:23

    that wasn't losos way audio that was the

  • 30:26

    error where

  • 30:27

    [ __ ] it wasn't the cleanest mix well

  • 30:30

    they was doing whatever

  • 30:31

    during that era everyone was kind of

  • 30:33

    except for the locks because they came

  • 30:34

    from a different world

  • 30:36

    and that is gonna that's getting to my

  • 30:37

    point the locks

  • 30:39

    started out with puff major big budget

  • 30:42

    the best

  • 30:43

    mixers engineers our [ __ ] has to sound

  • 30:47

    bad boyish clean so even the hardest

  • 30:50

    songs in the world

  • 30:52

    you can hear every sound instrument and

  • 30:55

    the locks are playing tv

  • 30:56

    tracks so the people that don't know

  • 30:57

    what that means tv tracks are these are

  • 31:00

    my performance tracks

  • 31:01

    right these are the tracks where my

  • 31:03

    voice is gonna

  • 31:04

    uh it's usually it's usually an

  • 31:06

    instrumental with uh background vocals

  • 31:09

    and maybe maybe a chorus you know a lead

  • 31:11

    vocal on the chorus

  • 31:12

    hey but if they get fly in a tv track

  • 31:15

    a sound might be louder or for sure

  • 31:19

    to come more it's your performance track

  • 31:22

    right which means

  • 31:23

    it's built for performing right

  • 31:27

    it's telling you what time it is with

  • 31:29

    these [ __ ] yeah

  • 31:31

    we could rap every word but nice tv

  • 31:34

    tracks here

  • 31:34

    and there's three of us doing the three

  • 31:36

    man and we all know each other three of

  • 31:39

    us that know

  • 31:39

    each of their lyrics no we know each

  • 31:42

    other like the back of each other's

  • 31:43

    hands

  • 31:44

    i know he's i know that line in the

  • 31:48

    verse that he hates to say

  • 31:49

    yeah he normally loses his breath around

  • 31:51

    this yep

  • 31:53

    you can hear it technician dog it sounds

  • 31:55

    like your healer

  • 31:56

    just came off tour like they've been on

  • 31:58

    tour for four months mm-hmm

  • 32:00

    so i'm ready for 25 track to play

  • 32:03

    if you're ready if you're ready yeah

  • 32:06

    ready but if you're not

  • 32:07

    ready cool i have it one zip

  • 32:11

    locks and and before you even go to the

  • 32:13

    next round

  • 32:15

    so you got jewels not knowing the words

  • 32:18

    you had jim not knowing the words

  • 32:20

    cam doesn't even do the verse yep so i'm

  • 32:23

    like okay

  • 32:23

    cam is still sitting down you can't like

  • 32:26

    like

  • 32:27

    cam you're the star gypsy you're the

  • 32:30

    face

  • 32:34

    i'm talking about just yeah that's what

  • 32:36

    it should be

  • 32:37

    that's what the world knows that's what

  • 32:39

    the world knows cam

  • 32:40

    as the dipstick and i think that has

  • 32:43

    transitioned

  • 32:43

    over the last years and that's right and

  • 32:46

    that's why

  • 32:47

    the lox [ __ ] all get busy they all

  • 32:51

    kill us

  • 32:52

    they play they roll you knew who the

  • 32:54

    undisputed leader of the group

  • 32:57

    was on the stage he commanded the stage

  • 33:00

    he did everything accordingly and that

  • 33:02

    was jada stop

  • 33:04

    another great point by ish

  • 33:08

    when i'm seeing this when this is the

  • 33:09

    optic

  • 33:11

    and i'm sitting there being a student i

  • 33:13

    go back down memory lane

  • 33:15

    the locks have had to battle

  • 33:18

    hey who's the best in this group that

  • 33:21

    was a thing

  • 33:24

    that thing can cause division

  • 33:28

    i can i'm gonna bounce on your point

  • 33:30

    keep going

  • 33:32

    the locks had to deal with kiss

  • 33:35

    solo career blowing up and him getting

  • 33:39

    neptune's beats

  • 33:41

    guess what they did it no problem

  • 33:45

    they did it style start playing his hits

  • 33:48

    from that same

  • 33:48

    ever hey we still was moving she put out

  • 33:51

    a [ __ ] amazing

  • 33:52

    album that same time like they just

  • 33:53

    worked through it and whatever the issue

  • 33:56

    might have been

  • 33:56

    if there was one because this is a

  • 33:57

    legend nobody ever knows know why

  • 34:00

    because they [ __ ] that's what i told

  • 34:03

    you i said this to you before

  • 34:04

    it was so much on display when we

  • 34:07

    finished recording the last time i said

  • 34:08

    yo

  • 34:09

    something has like the locks got to be

  • 34:10

    given their flowers just in

  • 34:12

    [ __ ] the forget the music part the fact

  • 34:15

    that

  • 34:16

    they came in what 95 and they never

  • 34:18

    broke whatever

  • 34:22

    i don't know how many other hip hop

  • 34:23

    groups say that about zero he did say

  • 34:26

    that

  • 34:26

    guess what zero and that show well it

  • 34:29

    shows on the other side too

  • 34:30

    it shows another yeah yes and i won't

  • 34:33

    talk about it but

  • 34:34

    dipset has gone through their ups and

  • 34:37

    downs and

  • 34:39

    accusatory remarks and contract issues

  • 34:41

    and so forth and so on

  • 34:42

    and not knowing nobody business just

  • 34:44

    looking it looks like some of it

  • 34:46

    never really got the full closure that

  • 34:48

    it i told you when they walked on the

  • 34:50

    stage

  • 34:51

    check this out the

  • 34:54

    dip set dapping each other up it almost

  • 34:57

    looked like i ain't seen you [ __ ] in a

  • 34:58

    long time we ain't spoken forever oh

  • 35:00

    [ __ ] what up

  • 35:01

    we about to perform together though yo

  • 35:03

    that's how the embraces look two things

  • 35:06

    they don't [ __ ] with each other well all

  • 35:07

    joe said about yo everybody had to

  • 35:09

    there was an argument about who was

  • 35:11

    better in the lox

  • 35:12

    style right and and consensus is not my

  • 35:17

    consensus

  • 35:18

    everybody tends to say jada and styles

  • 35:20

    are better

  • 35:21

    right that's always gonna i like sheik

  • 35:23

    better than styles but

  • 35:25

    the the normal consensus is jada styles

  • 35:27

    chic right

  • 35:28

    you can tell they [ __ ] cause them

  • 35:30

    [ __ ] really let chic eat

  • 35:33

    yeah they let chic eat 24 hours to live

  • 35:36

    she crop reservoir dogs shake rap like

  • 35:39

    yo

  • 35:40

    they let that [ __ ] get busy yeah and

  • 35:43

    took a back seat to

  • 35:44

    like jada didn't say his verse on

  • 35:46

    reservoir dogs that's

  • 35:48

    that's true what you're saying ish but i

  • 35:50

    want to add to that

  • 35:52

    because not to discredit chic she has

  • 35:55

    always kind of barged his way

  • 35:57

    into things even when it was yo who's

  • 35:59

    better styles and kiss

  • 36:01

    sheik always had yo shut the [ __ ] up for

  • 36:03

    a blast like he always had a burst that

  • 36:05

    welcome to d block like when they let

  • 36:07

    him that was a chic song

  • 36:09

    to me i know kiss went off but chic

  • 36:12

    set that tone even in that though

  • 36:15

    sheik being the more i'm not going to

  • 36:17

    say silent part of no i'm not crazy

  • 36:20

    but if he were mute

  • 36:23

    and couldn't talk you feel his

  • 36:27

    presence in the group you do

  • 36:30

    you know how powerful that is yeah you

  • 36:32

    know

  • 36:33

    fam the optic i was getting oh my god

  • 36:37

    man man

  • 36:43

    one of the more recent locks albums

  • 36:45

    there was a record or what else you need

  • 36:46

    to know

  • 36:47

    and he said that he's like yo i was cool

  • 36:50

    with the lock [ __ ] so no solo plans

  • 36:51

    that's why every song you heard was just

  • 36:53

    my mans

  • 36:54

    like letting them get off and he's like

  • 36:57

    i missed all these other records because

  • 36:58

    jayden styles was cool

  • 37:00

    i don't need i don't want to be all that

  • 37:02

    and it's like everybody accepting their

  • 37:04

    role playing their position yo

  • 37:06

    team all going to win team [ __ ] yeah

  • 37:09

    real team [ __ ] though brother [ __ ] track

  • 37:11

    two band from tv

  • 37:13

    why did they land my tv was already in

  • 37:15

    danger why did you let

  • 37:17

    the lox play it first

  • 37:22

    planning mistake yeah crucial

  • 37:26

    planning killer mistake

  • 37:29

    if you knew that you was playing with a

  • 37:30

    killer and you had the same bullet

  • 37:34

    i'm used to it yeah

  • 37:37

    i couldn't believe they let jay the kids

  • 37:39

    play that

  • 37:40

    crunk music came on the young [ __ ] in

  • 37:42

    my living room got hype

  • 37:44

    i got hype it didn't i got hyped too i

  • 37:46

    got hyped well that's my [ __ ] it didn't

  • 37:48

    hit me

  • 37:50

    [Music]

  • 37:58

    it hit for me but for me it's never

  • 38:00

    getting a point over being from tv yeah

  • 38:03

    and it was the way that he did man it

  • 38:04

    could have just laughed and went back to

  • 38:06

    back like y'all can't do this it was

  • 38:08

    like y'all never did this giving you my

  • 38:09

    scorecard it was 2-zip at that point

  • 38:13

    when [ __ ] done started something came

  • 38:15

    on

  • 38:16

    see and this is when you know you're

  • 38:18

    dealing with killers

  • 38:22

    when mace didn't come out i said oh

  • 38:25

    they're showing mercy i thought that

  • 38:29

    i thought let's go back to our royce

  • 38:31

    lupe conversation

  • 38:34

    i said a lot cause i'm biased and that's

  • 38:36

    my brother

  • 38:37

    but one of the big things i was saying

  • 38:39

    was hey race is showing mercy

  • 38:41

    i've been there before as a killer like

  • 38:45

    sometimes you show mercy like i could

  • 38:47

    you know what i could have did to saigon

  • 38:50

    why'd you stop

  • 38:54

    saigon i love you by the way and i'm

  • 38:55

    only saying this because he does a lot

  • 38:57

    of interviews

  • 38:58

    and he talks about it and it was a big

  • 38:59

    moment my kid [ __ ] got into it

  • 39:01

    there's a lot going on saigon's my

  • 39:02

    brother but

  • 39:03

    respectfully do you know what i could

  • 39:05

    have done to that guy

  • 39:07

    if i just didn't want to go to the park

  • 39:09

    one day

  • 39:11

    it could have been bad they didn't bring

  • 39:14

    mace out

  • 39:15

    cam's man that would have done one all

  • 39:18

    the time

  • 39:19

    on all of these i'll be honest with you

  • 39:22

    [ __ ] done started something

  • 39:23

    oh that took me right back to hoboken

  • 39:26

    park

  • 39:27

    don't get it [ __ ] up cause i'm saying

  • 39:28

    a whole book i'm talking about 96.

  • 39:31

    not the whole book that you see today

  • 39:33

    yeah no no no by the project the

  • 39:35

    project's still there

  • 39:37

    oh my god that mace what if he would

  • 39:40

    have came out

  • 39:41

    that was showing mercy hey sucking a

  • 39:43

    knot came on

  • 39:44

    i don't care who you gave the point to

  • 39:46

    because at this point

  • 39:48

    the locks is going first and

  • 39:51

    and seems to be making every shot

  • 39:55

    control of the vibe the crowd

  • 39:59

    the energy their opponent's energy

  • 40:02

    yeah and then when mighty d-block came

  • 40:05

    on

  • 40:06

    which i do not like better than uh

  • 40:09

    santana's town

  • 40:10

    it didn't matter it did yeah it didn't

  • 40:13

    matter

  • 40:15

    so we just went through the first four

  • 40:17

    bruh

  • 40:18

    in my opinion none of them dipset songs

  • 40:22

    hit actually i do like mighty dubai

  • 40:24

    better than santana town but still i

  • 40:25

    shouldn't have been

  • 40:26

    the separation out there see mine

  • 40:28

    shouldn't have been that

  • 40:29

    distant i i gave

  • 40:32

    i know i know ben from tv is banned from

  • 40:34

    tv i gave the point to crunk music and

  • 40:37

    also gave the point to suck it or not

  • 40:39

    so i had dipset up to 2-1 going into

  • 40:42

    four

  • 40:42

    okay that was the last point they got

  • 40:46

    yeah mighty d-block when mighty d-block

  • 40:49

    and it was just the extra [ __ ] like like

  • 40:51

    the line in the side no [ __ ] that went

  • 40:53

    to jail just to get their teeth fixed

  • 40:54

    and they all pointed yells

  • 40:59

    fam like what is what is happening here

  • 41:01

    at that's the moment where i felt

  • 41:03

    i don't know i started feeling bad

  • 41:10

    i went right to cambella because i know

  • 41:12

    jewels i know can bella cabela's there

  • 41:14

    i know how that is jimmy your husband is

  • 41:16

    there about to do his thing you put your

  • 41:18

    outfit on you there i was thinking about

  • 41:20

    fab

  • 41:20

    as somebody who faced kiss i thought

  • 41:23

    about that video with fab

  • 41:25

    where they all had to put the end of the

  • 41:26

    pool party different though fab is

  • 41:28

    saying yo to benjamin

  • 41:29

    jimmy's laughing okay

  • 41:32

    it's different though i'm just saying i

  • 41:35

    wouldn't want to

  • 41:36

    that i got my lady in the audience and i

  • 41:38

    got it right this mighty d-block

  • 41:40

    no that kiss right there is not the same

  • 41:42

    kiss as fat

  • 41:44

    yeah no we know no no no no no no no

  • 41:59

    that's my guy we just finished the album

  • 42:06

    he wasn't trying to kill that [ __ ] got

  • 42:07

    up there it turned out like that and he

  • 42:10

    [ __ ] well he got drunk

  • 42:11

    he got fun it was funny he was making

  • 42:12

    jokes he was laughing and enjoying you

  • 42:14

    ain't seen fun kissing

  • 42:15

    no no you ain't see that no you did you

  • 42:17

    saw a killer

  • 42:19

    yes this almost came off there's like yo

  • 42:21

    i'm just i've been tired of [ __ ]

  • 42:22

    pitting us against each other all these

  • 42:24

    y'all

  • 42:24

    i'm about to show you [ __ ] what's up

  • 42:26

    no it didn't no no no no

  • 42:28

    i'm saying what i got from kiss was i

  • 42:31

    hear you [ __ ] kiss there we go there

  • 42:33

    we go

  • 42:35

    yeah all right you know what i'm tired

  • 42:37

    of that no no

  • 42:38

    it sounds like and i'm confused by it

  • 42:40

    every time i hear it that's what it

  • 42:41

    sounds like yeah it sounds like yo i get

  • 42:44

    it he's like what i'm thinking he said

  • 42:46

    here

  • 42:47

    he said it was good this fight's been

  • 42:48

    finished it's good why are we here

  • 42:50

    but it's not it's not enough it's not

  • 42:54

    it's not that's what he was saying like

  • 42:55

    yo you sharp and if that was

  • 42:57

    ever clear it was at the next round

  • 43:01

    yeah yeah who shot your freestyle yeah

  • 43:05

    yeah i was so confused

  • 43:08

    i started scrambling my brain to see

  • 43:11

    what part of

  • 43:12

    who shacha could kiss have written

  • 43:16

    he had to have wrote something in the

  • 43:18

    original who shot you

  • 43:19

    because he not about to do his [ __ ]

  • 43:21

    who shot your freestyle here

  • 43:23

    and he did and brought it back too yeah

  • 43:26

    and brought it back

  • 43:32

    and then brought him up i told him you

  • 43:34

    can't do this

  • 43:36

    stop though that's but you cannot do

  • 43:39

    this

  • 43:40

    i'm trying to put i want y'all as you

  • 43:43

    say

  • 43:43

    into that space where now you have to

  • 43:46

    face the levels

  • 43:48

    put yourself in hey ish nephew just got

  • 43:51

    drafted

  • 43:52

    he gonna have to play kyrie yeah it's

  • 43:55

    it's levels now you got to get there

  • 43:58

    so i meant imagine what you saying in in

  • 44:00

    this moment the

  • 44:01

    locks are going first right so that

  • 44:05

    means i don't even care what you call

  • 44:06

    i'm

  • 44:09

    [Music]

  • 44:11

    and i'ma just rap because i'm a killer

  • 44:15

    and when killers just rap it's gonna

  • 44:18

    always work

  • 44:19

    it's gonna always work tyler cole

  • 44:22

    started calling jadakiss sexy

  • 44:24

    he couldn't even control his body

  • 44:32

    look what bars did no

  • 44:36

    don't ever tell me bars but won't bull

  • 44:38

    bars do it

  • 44:39

    [ __ ] tyler body temperature started

  • 44:42

    warming up

  • 44:43

    [ __ ] had to tweet look at that

  • 44:48

    confidence

  • 44:55

    yo i know it sounds like i'm making a

  • 44:58

    joke

  • 45:00

    but i'm not

  • 45:04

    what i'm saying is back in the day new

  • 45:07

    york [ __ ] when

  • 45:08

    when we went to virginia or north

  • 45:09

    carolina south carolina [ __ ] when we

  • 45:12

    went somewhere

  • 45:13

    it was like a thing it was a thing

  • 45:17

    some of y'all still exists out there

  • 45:19

    where we papa well new york [ __ ]

  • 45:20

    everywhere now but

  • 45:21

    still you bump into one or two where you

  • 45:23

    get somewhere and they'd be like oh

  • 45:25

    that's that new york [ __ ] i just got a

  • 45:26

    thing it's like

  • 45:28

    so while tyler was saying oh my god my

  • 45:30

    body i can't control

  • 45:32

    it the chicks were saying yo it's

  • 45:35

    something about new york [ __ ] they

  • 45:36

    look like they about to shoot each other

  • 45:38

    but they not oh my [ __ ] is so

  • 45:40

    wet that was happening i'm not joking no

  • 45:43

    no i've seen them tweets

  • 45:45

    hey [ __ ] tweets yeah talk about my

  • 45:48

    phone

  • 45:51

    all right i've seen the tweets

  • 45:57

    now you're right i saw the tweets too i

  • 45:59

    talk about my [ __ ]

  • 46:07

    i'm joking by the way i don't have no

  • 46:09

    [Laughter]

  • 46:12

    business

  • 46:14

    that energy is contained this is what

  • 46:15

    i'm saying it sounds funny and it is

  • 46:17

    funny but that energy

  • 46:18

    is contagious and tyler tweeted this at

  • 46:21

    the who shot your freestyle yo put the

  • 46:22

    [ __ ] back up man i don't want to see

  • 46:24

    that

  • 46:26

    and they followed that damn it this way

  • 46:28

    it don't matter yeah at this point it

  • 46:29

    don't matter

  • 46:30

    matter what they thought it was over it

  • 46:32

    was over no they don't really matter

  • 46:33

    what they were then it continued to be a

  • 46:35

    bloodbath round after round

  • 46:37

    i stopped keeping score at that point

  • 46:39

    that's when i stopped

  • 46:40

    i don't even and then they start playing

  • 46:42

    dipset was playing two records at once

  • 46:45

    well no well because of time

  • 46:47

    restrictions i'm assuming yeah cause i

  • 46:48

    saw a camera

  • 46:49

    over the channel yeah they yeah it was

  • 46:51

    it was it was late

  • 46:53

    they had boxing events earlier um

  • 46:56

    and i know they have time issues there

  • 46:58

    so i liked that they did that i'm not

  • 47:00

    mad at it but what i'm saying is but

  • 47:01

    locks did it too

  • 47:02

    no started it held right after who shot

  • 47:05

    your freestyle

  • 47:06

    oh that's what i'm saying oh look look

  • 47:09

    look look look yeah i see

  • 47:10

    well no cause get em girls live my life

  • 47:12

    yeah that's where it started so it

  • 47:13

    started oh

  • 47:14

    you're right yeah oh [ __ ] hit me with

  • 47:17

    that

  • 47:17

    i was gonna hit him with two all right

  • 47:19

    and it wasn't enough which was yeah

  • 47:22

    this is our packaging two two records

  • 47:24

    that might have been w's

  • 47:26

    together yeah yeah yeah i was like

  • 47:29

    y'all should not put these two records

  • 47:30

    no but they're bad parts

  • 47:32

    even when you didn't even peep that it

  • 47:34

    still didn't get a dub even when you did

  • 47:36

    it yeah it didn't work look what killers

  • 47:38

    do

  • 47:38

    look what killers do though no scramble

  • 47:40

    so look we gonna go punch for punch

  • 47:42

    you hit me twice you're just opening up

  • 47:45

    the door

  • 47:46

    for me to beat the [ __ ] out of you

  • 47:48

    correct correct you get what i'm saying

  • 47:49

    like and that's what started yo juelz

  • 47:52

    he thought he just alley you bro and

  • 47:54

    they just

  • 47:55

    they just sean marion on the break they

  • 47:57

    just

  • 47:59

    like yo it was crazy afternoon who shot

  • 48:01

    your freestyle

  • 48:03

    reservoir dog before you even get there

  • 48:06

    before you even get there my bad

  • 48:07

    after who shot your freestyle i'm

  • 48:10

    thinking

  • 48:12

    god damn y'all fired off you gave me i'm

  • 48:15

    ready you gave me crunk music you gave

  • 48:17

    me sucker tonight a lot of

  • 48:18

    times

  • 48:24

    yeah that should have won i at that

  • 48:26

    point i'm already going through my head

  • 48:28

    like

  • 48:28

    the locks has the locks ain't scratched

  • 48:31

    the cereal off

  • 48:32

    right that's

  • 48:39

    this is going to get really spooky but

  • 48:41

    yeah that just speaks fast

  • 48:43

    that just speaks to my point that them

  • 48:46

    songs that

  • 48:46

    normally just go through joe did the dip

  • 48:50

    set set

  • 48:51

    in here [ __ ] we was in here like [ __ ]

  • 48:54

    yeah they didn't [ __ ] on that stage not

  • 48:57

    at all nothing

  • 48:59

    they didn't yo it got to the point where

  • 49:01

    kiss kept telling them

  • 49:03

    i i think it was after round five or

  • 49:05

    something

  • 49:06

    why they might be pulling yo play

  • 49:07

    balling yeah i know you i know you got

  • 49:09

    balls

  • 49:10

    that's all you got left come on i want

  • 49:12

    to hear it yo hurry up

  • 49:13

    let me hit ball come on hurry up

  • 49:16

    so now listen lanes are now listening

  • 49:17

    those are spades yeah so now listen

  • 49:19

    i'm glad you all said i did the dip set

  • 49:21

    set uh reservoir dogs comes on

  • 49:25

    plus blood pressure you can't beat that

  • 49:28

    plus blood pressure i thought that was a

  • 49:31

    really tough combination

  • 49:33

    i'm glad uh kiss found a way to get

  • 49:35

    blood pressure in there

  • 49:37

    and cam follows that with pull it i

  • 49:40

    played pull it

  • 49:41

    in my dip set tribute and we

  • 49:44

    said this will never come on yeah

  • 49:48

    you said reservoir dogs i wouldn't come

  • 49:49

    on i said you i was glad i was wrong

  • 49:52

    would pull it i like to hear pull it and

  • 49:55

    i like to hear 357

  • 49:56

    and i liked hearing the rock not after

  • 50:00

    reservoir dogs

  • 50:01

    and blood pressure followed by

  • 50:04

    24 hours to live

  • 50:08

    24 hours to live is what

  • 50:12

    98 mace yeah

  • 50:15

    somewhere no 97 no it's 97.98

  • 50:18

    no because i was in a rehab in newark

  • 50:22

    close to prince street do washing cars

  • 50:25

    outside the lexuses tvs it was mace era

  • 50:30

    so 24 hours to live came on it brought

  • 50:33

    me back to that

  • 50:35

    and i said yo stop this stop this fight

  • 50:38

    because at this point now now y'all

  • 50:40

    [ __ ] it up

  • 50:42

    because this ain't this ain't feeling

  • 50:43

    celebratory to me

  • 50:45

    it look like y'all are changing the

  • 50:47

    image of one of new york's greatest

  • 50:49

    [ __ ] groups

  • 50:50

    and that's what happened i don't want

  • 50:51

    new york doing that to new york

  • 50:53

    so now i'm getting mad

  • 50:57

    now i'm getting mad and right after 24

  • 51:00

    hours to live goes off

  • 51:02

    everything that i wanted to hear came on

  • 51:06

    jeez up harlem

  • 51:10

    bird gang money i i didn't i would have

  • 51:12

    put purple city i would have put

  • 51:13

    something else in my face

  • 51:14

    i didn't expect to hear that's not in my

  • 51:16

    work that's when i start screaming at my

  • 51:18

    phone

  • 51:19

    saying yes fight back jim let's go jim

  • 51:22

    no he started screaming because right

  • 51:23

    now

  • 51:25

    fight these things right before that

  • 51:27

    moment i said

  • 51:29

    oh jim has to save him jim is the only

  • 51:32

    one

  • 51:33

    i got other gym records i thought would

  • 51:35

    have bowled better than

  • 51:36

    than some of this other [ __ ] that came

  • 51:38

    on so that's so that's where i stopped

  • 51:40

    stop stop i almost

  • 51:44

    ah let me watch myself this [ __ ] said

  • 51:47

    fight back jim that's right fight back

  • 51:50

    that's what that was i just felt like a

  • 51:52

    gym led charge might have appeared

  • 51:54

    different this is a cam led charge

  • 51:56

    it's not because cam was barely paying

  • 51:58

    attention to them [ __ ]

  • 51:59

    but he's still getting the charge and i

  • 52:03

    feel like

  • 52:03

    dipset maybe stands a better chance

  • 52:07

    if somebody if it's jim leading the

  • 52:09

    charge

  • 52:10

    jim is still active in music right now

  • 52:13

    jim is still talking to all of the

  • 52:14

    rappers he's charismatic he still has to

  • 52:16

    keep in tune with when you still active

  • 52:18

    you have to keep in tune with

  • 52:20

    some things it don't matter if you trash

  • 52:22

    at showing it i'm not saying he is

  • 52:24

    but you have to keep up jim is up he's

  • 52:26

    up to date

  • 52:27

    at least this maybe goes different if

  • 52:30

    it's led by him

  • 52:32

    i don't know energy energy energy

  • 52:35

    a few a few months ago i was coming in

  • 52:37

    here during a pandemic it was all [ __ ]

  • 52:39

    up right

  • 52:39

    and i was telling y'all that a bunch of

  • 52:41

    people in new york

  • 52:43

    wanted to leave new york toy moving this

  • 52:46

    one's moving this one's moving

  • 52:48

    everybody's moving i went on this long

  • 52:50

    diatribe about why i wouldn't move

  • 52:53

    because of the spirit of new york

  • 52:57

    and how there's value to it you might

  • 53:00

    not get it if you don't get that

  • 53:02

    but cam not living in new york for me

  • 53:04

    was on

  • 53:05

    full [ __ ] display he didn't seem like

  • 53:08

    he had the new york

  • 53:10

    still the new york census to even know

  • 53:12

    how to respond

  • 53:13

    to some of this [ __ ] that was happening

  • 53:15

    he was still in miami mode

  • 53:17

    to me to me and if the leader is doing

  • 53:21

    that

  • 53:21

    kiss wasn't if the leader is doing that

  • 53:24

    he kept reminding you yeah

  • 53:26

    i'm right here

  • 53:31

    i'll be in manhattan yo y'all see me see

  • 53:33

    me all the time no

  • 53:34

    a jog i'm in central park even as

  • 53:37

    comebacks

  • 53:38

    like yo when you grow up here [ __ ]

  • 53:41

    beat

  • 53:42

    cracking and hiking and shooting the

  • 53:44

    duck you got to be witty with your [ __ ]

  • 53:46

    and that's what led me you got to be

  • 53:48

    witty with your [ __ ] [ __ ] cracking on

  • 53:49

    your sneakers you got to get on that

  • 53:50

    [ __ ]

  • 53:53

    kiss had it but that's what led me down

  • 53:55

    deep dive road

  • 53:57

    because we know cam as the joker

  • 54:00

    as the witty ones [ __ ] in the

  • 54:04

    world yeah he's the witty one yeah

  • 54:07

    and it was at one point i had him on the

  • 54:09

    killer list too many many many years ago

  • 54:11

    but i had him there

  • 54:12

    because that uh you don't do d-rugs in

  • 54:15

    the fantastic four and all of that and

  • 54:16

    not be a killer

  • 54:18

    but then he came back and saw success

  • 54:20

    with some of the a change of style

  • 54:23

    and that's when [ __ ] started laughing

  • 54:26

    at the computer

  • 54:27

    i took him off the killer list but he

  • 54:29

    was still one of the nicest [ __ ] and

  • 54:31

    very successful

  • 54:32

    but when he couldn't when he didn't have

  • 54:34

    that new york [ __ ] you talking about the

  • 54:36

    witty

  • 54:37

    comeback i said see

  • 54:41

    wait it looked like you ain't going to

  • 54:42

    be there yo that's all

  • 54:44

    that's all it just i don't care about

  • 54:46

    i'm here for the battle give me my

  • 54:47

    channel i took that from the very

  • 54:48

    beginning when kevin posted the

  • 54:56

    i don't care that he didn't want to be

  • 54:58

    there you're there

  • 55:00

    i'm not imagining how you [ __ ] feel

  • 55:03

    this is a male 1 you

  • 55:04

    there nah no i'm telling you no

  • 55:07

    this is a melon i am not allowing it for

  • 55:10

    a [ __ ] that a lot of [ __ ] got on

  • 55:11

    their top 20 of all time

  • 55:13

    no shut the [ __ ] up nope nope nope

  • 55:17

    you stood there in front of a killer you

  • 55:18

    was there

  • 55:20

    and you're me i don't care if you're a

  • 55:21

    fake hey hey jadakiss favorite show was

  • 55:24

    on too and he [ __ ] said it i want to

  • 55:25

    go home and watch the honeymooners no no

  • 55:28

    that wasn't his

  • 55:29

    that was a jab [ __ ] that was sarcasm

  • 55:33

    yo come on let me go i don't know i

  • 55:36

    don't

  • 55:36

    think that honeymoon hey guess what i

  • 55:39

    don't know it to be a jab

  • 55:40

    because kiss wakes up at 6 00 am like a

  • 55:43

    killer

  • 55:44

    drinks green tea smoothies takes the

  • 55:46

    [ __ ] energy

  • 55:48

    shot jogs around central park nine times

  • 55:51

    goes to the pull-up bar with the what's

  • 55:52

    the [ __ ] named the pull-up masters

  • 55:54

    whatever their name is the bartenders

  • 55:56

    yeah it goes over

  • 55:58

    i don't know i think at nighttime he's

  • 56:02

    in bed to watch the honeymooners

  • 56:04

    and i think he would rather watch the

  • 56:05

    honeymooners

  • 56:08

    in new york somewhere one picks in new

  • 56:10

    york one picture in new york

  • 56:12

    no no that's crazy no i thought he was

  • 56:15

    being miami [ __ ] might not and who

  • 56:17

    knows

  • 56:17

    but the point is that

  • 56:20

    that no you're not going to say he

  • 56:22

    didn't want to be there he was there

  • 56:24

    no i don't know but even if you don't

  • 56:26

    want to be there once a [ __ ] start

  • 56:27

    punching you

  • 56:28

    sam you guys but wait

  • 56:31

    ain't working now right and i hope this

  • 56:33

    uh yeah i'm just giving an honest review

  • 56:34

    no [ __ ] once you're [ __ ]

  • 56:36

    working now you gotta rap let me preface

  • 56:38

    all of this with i have the utmost

  • 56:39

    respect for everybody that was on that

  • 56:41

    stage

  • 56:41

    and that was one of the greatest nights

  • 56:42

    in hip-hop to me yeah absolutely no

  • 56:44

    matter what i'm saying right now this

  • 56:46

    was iconic

  • 56:47

    it was iconic [ __ ] but now when the

  • 56:50

    funny ain't funny

  • 56:51

    you gotta rap yeah and that's what jason

  • 56:54

    said but that's what jesus said yo

  • 56:56

    don't let these [ __ ] distract you play

  • 56:59

    your next joint

  • 57:00

    and on top of that though they was out

  • 57:02

    funny in them [ __ ] too

  • 57:04

    i'm not on purpose no no no no no

  • 57:07

    no no no no no no no people might not

  • 57:10

    know

  • 57:12

    people don't know that these killing

  • 57:14

    [ __ ] got the great sense of hurt

  • 57:16

    when they all walked in and walked on

  • 57:17

    the stage i hear them saying [ __ ] you

  • 57:19

    here for why you got a mic talking about

  • 57:20

    zeke

  • 57:21

    they're like oh you're the fat [ __ ]

  • 57:22

    from drew hill you just you just

  • 57:24

    told that [ __ ] yo you just a fat [ __ ]

  • 57:26

    from drew hill

  • 57:27

    like what you even here for yeah but you

  • 57:29

    know what and stop right there

  • 57:32

    i don't know if freaky zekey should have

  • 57:34

    chose this moment

  • 57:36

    to do the dancing in the normal height

  • 57:37

    man he does

  • 57:40

    your group is here for war

  • 57:43

    this is not a normal show ain't no hype

  • 57:45

    man this is not a concert

  • 57:47

    yeah this this is [ __ ] pull up the

  • 57:49

    killer no

  • 57:50

    but whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa even if

  • 57:52

    you're gonna be the hype man

  • 57:54

    help the [ __ ] out when they lose their

  • 57:56

    breath yeah

  • 57:58

    yeah be the actual hype man seeing what

  • 58:00

    was working i would have went and talked

  • 58:01

    to the dj i'd have made a couple of

  • 58:03

    improv moves

  • 58:05

    i would've had to pull some [ __ ] out man

  • 58:07

    you got mopped you're being made of fun

  • 58:10

    of

  • 58:11

    like you like literally what joe said

  • 58:13

    i'm watching somebody

  • 58:14

    take this group that we hold up on this

  • 58:16

    high pedestal and bring them down to

  • 58:18

    earth

  • 58:19

    that's right that's what they did these

  • 58:21

    [ __ ] ain't like i think they are

  • 58:23

    i ain't like that i'm gonna pull the

  • 58:24

    curtain back and show y'all it's all

  • 58:26

    smoke and mirrors so once something i

  • 58:28

    say is smoking mirrors it was just like

  • 58:30

    yo dawg

  • 58:32

    you nice yeah it's not smoking mirrors

  • 58:35

    it's just not the warriors because the

  • 58:37

    thing about dip set is like

  • 58:38

    you just not the warriors and and don't

  • 58:40

    like i'm not trying to [ __ ] on nobody

  • 58:42

    from new york so i hope this is not

  • 58:43

    coming off that way please don't think

  • 58:45

    for me being a student

  • 58:48

    dipset represented what dipset

  • 58:52

    and harlem [ __ ] for me always

  • 58:54

    represent

  • 58:55

    just flashy fly

  • 58:58

    stylish funny like and they got

  • 59:01

    joints for days so they harlem they gave

  • 59:04

    me harlem

  • 59:06

    my my critique is against

  • 59:09

    yonkers murderers gritty

  • 59:12

    grimy came from the era of hip-hop where

  • 59:15

    you had to get

  • 59:16

    busy might get yourself you know into

  • 59:18

    our harlem murderer bag a little bit and

  • 59:21

    they have it

  • 59:22

    and there there was a lot of like

  • 59:23

    internet verse real life conversations

  • 59:26

    going in my head too like the internet

  • 59:27

    has built dipset up and granted they are

  • 59:29

    one of the top 10

  • 59:30

    crews probably ever in hip hop to me but

  • 59:32

    they they are they hit the internet has

  • 59:34

    blown them up to be

  • 59:36

    something a little different even bigger

  • 59:38

    than that

  • 59:39

    because people by the internet is the

  • 59:41

    top two groups

  • 59:43

    that was a movement absolutely so it's

  • 59:45

    it's beyond just

  • 59:46

    music it's culture after to a certain

  • 59:48

    person so yeah dipset

  • 59:50

    this is coach all of that

  • 59:53

    but that's why they're being held up so

  • 59:54

    more the culture slider is more

  • 59:57

    up right so the music goes up but their

  • 59:59

    culture slider

  • 1:00:01

    for [ __ ] that was i think for [ __ ]

  • 1:00:03

    that was born in like 96 97 that

  • 1:00:05

    like like marissa yeah

  • 1:00:08

    like marissa she put a pink outfit on

  • 1:00:11

    she said y'all know what time it is

  • 1:00:13

    there was a lot of that

  • 1:00:14

    rory even boring swears by boys more

  • 1:00:16

    wins like

  • 1:00:17

    kids of that age group look at jimmy

  • 1:00:20

    look at these [ __ ]

  • 1:00:21

    these are these [ __ ] look like hip-hop

  • 1:00:23

    they broke broke wayne in new york

  • 1:00:26

    they've done too much of course like

  • 1:00:28

    even that i was expecting

  • 1:00:29

    but none of that matters when you're

  • 1:00:31

    dealing with a sad trained assassin

  • 1:00:34

    but not only that joe the trained

  • 1:00:37

    assassins

  • 1:00:39

    that i'm not taking anything away from

  • 1:00:40

    the locks by any means

  • 1:00:42

    the trained assassins also outperformed

  • 1:00:46

    yeah they're breathless that's the real

  • 1:00:47

    thing that's the real life

  • 1:00:49

    that's the real life but that's part of

  • 1:00:50

    the assassin [ __ ] that's yeah that's

  • 1:00:52

    part of being killed

  • 1:00:53

    what i'm saying is it's not just that

  • 1:00:54

    the music was harder no no no the

  • 1:00:56

    performance is part of the killer

  • 1:00:57

    they checked boxes

  • 1:01:00

    all of them all over the box those are

  • 1:01:02

    the boxes that [ __ ] keep

  • 1:01:04

    talking about from engineers to dj's

  • 1:01:16

    improv and was still performing hitting

  • 1:01:18

    every note every beat

  • 1:01:20

    crowd control crowd control because

  • 1:01:23

    when jewels go and say oh yeah i don't

  • 1:01:25

    like women y'all ain't got no chick

  • 1:01:26

    records

  • 1:01:27

    why did you do that no that was good no

  • 1:01:29

    no no that wasn't your authority like

  • 1:01:30

    that was almost like i was waiting for

  • 1:01:32

    you

  • 1:01:32

    threw the ball right off the backboard

  • 1:01:33

    to lebron and he caught that [ __ ] on the

  • 1:01:35

    windmill

  • 1:01:36

    and dunked on your face one way to look

  • 1:01:39

    at it because that's exactly what

  • 1:01:40

    happened

  • 1:01:41

    and after i thought that i said and he

  • 1:01:43

    still showed mercy

  • 1:01:45

    yeah he let him think about it what

  • 1:01:47

    happens in that building if throwback

  • 1:01:49

    comes on

  • 1:01:50

    that's what i was thinking too i was

  • 1:01:51

    like what happened juelz dies in front

  • 1:01:53

    of your face

  • 1:01:55

    no [ __ ] they could have went crozet

  • 1:01:56

    michelle what was the [ __ ]

  • 1:01:58

    uh [ __ ] what if jaime came what if it's

  • 1:02:00

    john did you know

  • 1:02:02

    you know this [ __ ] like james

  • 1:02:11

    and to tell you how just just how uneven

  • 1:02:14

    in terms of preparation this was

  • 1:02:16

    jewels is sitting there telling them go

  • 1:02:18

    ahead go ahead i know you're gonna play

  • 1:02:19

    we're gonna make it

  • 1:02:21

    nope three four or five more rounds

  • 1:02:23

    still got more yeah

  • 1:02:24

    ice that was the moment that i sat in my

  • 1:02:26

    living room and said

  • 1:02:28

    you know what i hope this [ __ ] mary j

  • 1:02:31

    jamboree's your face off right now

  • 1:02:34

    and then you know what came off

  • 1:02:37

    as soon as he said it you know

  • 1:02:41

    i said as soon as he said it was funny

  • 1:02:42

    too this one

  • 1:02:45

    this is over listen round of applause

  • 1:02:48

    let me

  • 1:02:49

    just go through the rest new york week

  • 1:02:52

    no you don't have to yeah because that

  • 1:02:54

    was the one

  • 1:02:55

    i didn't know that um i thought new york

  • 1:02:58

    went right up against welcome to new

  • 1:03:00

    york city

  • 1:03:15

    some snacks at that point it's done this

  • 1:03:18

    was over at that point you couldn't even

  • 1:03:20

    hear jay-z new york came on jairu no uh

  • 1:03:23

    uh certified gangster didn't do what i

  • 1:03:25

    thought it was gonna do bought

  • 1:03:28

    yo there's like even though the locks

  • 1:03:30

    was going first

  • 1:03:31

    if you look at like that second half

  • 1:03:33

    there they were playing

  • 1:03:34

    responses yeah they were responsive like

  • 1:03:36

    dawg the dj was

  • 1:03:38

    already prepped to say when y'all [ __ ]

  • 1:03:40

    play ballin

  • 1:03:42

    go exactly benjamin's is coming next

  • 1:03:45

    no matter when y'all play welcome to new

  • 1:03:46

    york city new york

  • 1:03:48

    new york new york is coming next right

  • 1:03:51

    and then jada gave his little intro

  • 1:03:55

    right before this the [ __ ] dropped and

  • 1:03:57

    it was a ride and they didn't have to

  • 1:03:59

    stop and talk

  • 1:03:59

    they didn't do nothing it was like yo yo

  • 1:04:02

    this is what we're going to do

  • 1:04:03

    and then at the very end the locks just

  • 1:04:06

    start playing five sec

  • 1:04:07

    five albums per set five songs per set

  • 1:04:10

    like we going yeah cuz no what happened

  • 1:04:11

    i remember clear

  • 1:04:13

    after all about the benjamins dipset

  • 1:04:14

    played dipset anthem that's when juelz

  • 1:04:16

    was telling

  • 1:04:18

    him yo go ahead and play we're gonna

  • 1:04:20

    make it because at that point they were

  • 1:04:21

    saying these are the last songs

  • 1:04:23

    and that and then and then he came with

  • 1:04:25

    while out but i'm just saying hold up

  • 1:04:26

    hold up you think

  • 1:04:30

    dipset anthem is going to make me

  • 1:04:33

    play we gotta make we gonna make it

  • 1:04:36

    just the thinking just stop think about

  • 1:04:39

    that for a minute

  • 1:04:40

    haven't done time in stage right you got

  • 1:04:42

    a high speed in the air well some of

  • 1:04:43

    y'all know

  • 1:04:44

    you gotta i spade your hand you look

  • 1:04:46

    you're looking for another high speed

  • 1:04:47

    you play it get out the way

  • 1:04:49

    get out the way you got a little joker

  • 1:04:50

    moving i'm gonna make you move it i'm

  • 1:04:52

    gonna make you move it

  • 1:04:54

    but to just play that game you have to

  • 1:04:56

    have one of the cards that make me move

  • 1:04:58

    it yeah

  • 1:04:59

    yeah i was telling ice

  • 1:05:02

    dipset anthem is one of my favorite ul's

  • 1:05:04

    records

  • 1:05:06

    but it's not to go in a conversation

  • 1:05:08

    with the greatest lox records

  • 1:05:09

    none of them none of them none of them

  • 1:05:13

    you did say that

  • 1:05:13

    none of them hey joe no no no you argue

  • 1:05:19

    hold on i'm gonna address each of you

  • 1:05:21

    joe ish

  • 1:05:22

    parks all the fans i was wrong

  • 1:05:31

    i was walking a lot and this i dread it

  • 1:05:35

    coming in here

  • 1:05:37

    phone been on fire yo yo we got talking

  • 1:05:39

    about the verses because i got you got

  • 1:05:41

    to walk all your [ __ ] back

  • 1:05:44

    look at this [ __ ] [ __ ] uh all about

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    the benjamin's wild out case you ask

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    about felony [ __ ]

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    the girl said yeah he plays hey mom and

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    said y'all don't have no girl records oh

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    yeah

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    holistic oh boy yeah hey mom yeah hold

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    his clip

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    good times [ __ ] uh a world war two

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    they lucky that i think i was last

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    saying not kiss your ass goodbye

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    or when are they squeezing last night i

  • 1:06:05

    heard it at some point i was i heard

  • 1:06:07

    that

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    oh okay guys later that was later later

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    yeah

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    that was later god damn i didn't think

  • 1:06:12

    the last day would come on

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    and then this is when you know this is

  • 1:06:16

    what we you've been knew the kiss was in

  • 1:06:18

    full control

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    but tech played made you look

  • 1:06:22

    and kiss that no no no no no no yo cut

  • 1:06:25

    that off that's

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    that's not something that's nice

  • 1:06:30

    off nobody else i don't have to go that

  • 1:06:32

    far

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    to handle this i can handle this you

  • 1:06:36

    know just put a beat on

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    and i can handle this don't play that

  • 1:06:40

    major look you know that is

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    it went into money power respect

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    like this is a beat money power respect

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    buy your side

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    come through put your but when come

  • 1:06:50

    through came on i thought the building

  • 1:06:52

    was gonna burn down

  • 1:06:53

    i couldn't believe that came on like the

  • 1:06:56

    way it came on

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    see it was about who you was partying

  • 1:06:59

    with some some of the young people

  • 1:07:02

    the young people save on you would have

  • 1:07:03

    never that's what i mean you would have

  • 1:07:05

    never been

  • 1:07:05

    you've never been in a party where come

  • 1:07:07

    through was the record that could have

  • 1:07:09

    got you killed

  • 1:07:10

    maybe annie up maybe uh some of the

  • 1:07:13

    classic

  • 1:07:14

    the classic records that'll get you

  • 1:07:15

    killed but the other records like come

  • 1:07:18

    through

  • 1:07:18

    nori used to have a set of records that

  • 1:07:20

    would get you killed oh yeah yeah

  • 1:07:23

    sure it still does probably yeah i'm

  • 1:07:25

    sure this is the right spot

  • 1:07:26

    yeah thank god all these all these

  • 1:07:28

    [ __ ] are married got wives

  • 1:07:30

    had a move to miami then went somewhere

  • 1:07:33

    that was the funny [ __ ] that this battle

  • 1:07:35

    versus went over styles went backstage

  • 1:07:37

    with his wife

  • 1:07:38

    supposed to beautiful which i love his

  • 1:07:40

    family i love his wife posted a picture

  • 1:07:42

    [ __ ] got in a family bag

  • 1:07:44

    kiss took the mamba picture it was back

  • 1:07:45

    to fam it's just family vibes yeah

  • 1:07:47

    yeah like this was that [ __ ] yeah like

  • 1:07:50

    another day at work

  • 1:07:51

    [ __ ] jumped on the jet went later

  • 1:07:54

    kanye

  • 1:07:56

    i think that's super dope and while i'm

  • 1:07:58

    glad they on the album

  • 1:08:00

    yeah i think it's a little clout chasey

  • 1:08:03

    which is part of

  • 1:08:04

    no it is very much no it is cloud chase

  • 1:08:06

    very much so

  • 1:08:07

    if you're only for yay to bring them yes

  • 1:08:09

    so you're saying at the time

  • 1:08:11

    yeah and he has he brings him down

  • 1:08:14

    that's a funny internet joke i like that

  • 1:08:15

    joke he said the locks wanted dawn

  • 1:08:17

    deplacement

  • 1:08:19

    which is cool but the same thing that i

  • 1:08:21

    said to drama earlier

  • 1:08:23

    i'm saying to kanye same thing i said to

  • 1:08:26

    savon

  • 1:08:26

    earlier i'm saying to kanye kanye

  • 1:08:30

    you are one of our brightest brains

  • 1:08:34

    when it comes to music you have arguably

  • 1:08:37

    the best catalog

  • 1:08:38

    ever when it comes to music your ear and

  • 1:08:42

    your eye

  • 1:08:43

    the way that your mind just works you

  • 1:08:46

    not

  • 1:08:46

    sheep you're not you don't do none of

  • 1:08:47

    that you innovate you fix

  • 1:08:50

    you the same way that you have regarded

  • 1:08:53

    pusha t even when the world didn't

  • 1:08:56

    regard him that way

  • 1:08:58

    that's the yay i'm talking about that

  • 1:09:01

    yeah don't need to wait for the rest of

  • 1:09:02

    the world to say that the lox is the

  • 1:09:04

    locks

  • 1:09:04

    true that's just a fact there's nothing

  • 1:09:07

    that nobody can say to me to change my

  • 1:09:09

    mind

  • 1:09:10

    do you think it's that or do you think

  • 1:09:11

    though it's hip-hop it's the business no

  • 1:09:13

    it's just almost too like an

  • 1:09:14

    out-of-sight out of mind

  • 1:09:15

    it also it also could have been just a

  • 1:09:17

    scheduling thing where this is the time

  • 1:09:18

    that it worked for them for nothing

  • 1:09:20

    shut up no he was flying out [ __ ]

  • 1:09:23

    uh various producers of that cloth he

  • 1:09:26

    was flying out grizzly

  • 1:09:27

    waste time he's been flying everybody

  • 1:09:29

    out for over two years

  • 1:09:30

    so it's not it's not a scheduling it's

  • 1:09:32

    okay there's nothing

  • 1:09:34

    wrong here like don't everything don't

  • 1:09:37

    take it you don't think

  • 1:09:38

    that's getting on the job kanye last any

  • 1:09:40

    time jada has something to do the

  • 1:09:41

    honeymoon

  • 1:09:42

    honeymooners was on when kanye said the

  • 1:09:45

    jets

  • 1:09:45

    but guess what it's jada you got respect

  • 1:09:47

    for this [ __ ] he's coming

  • 1:09:49

    he's coming if you if you say if you say

  • 1:09:50

    come so

  • 1:09:52

    yeah i think that the lock should have

  • 1:09:54

    been one of the calls

  • 1:09:56

    you got that beautiful amazing gospel

  • 1:09:58

    sounding [ __ ] going over there

  • 1:10:00

    the locks only ever sound good only over

  • 1:10:02

    any beat

  • 1:10:04

    any type right

  • 1:10:07

    i was sitting here watching that kanye

  • 1:10:08

    [ __ ] the [ __ ] j elect went off with

  • 1:10:10

    all that mama jumbo [ __ ] i ain't want to

  • 1:10:12

    hear

  • 1:10:13

    and then the locks came on

  • 1:10:22

    also another one of our greatest emcees

  • 1:10:25

    i'm telling you how i felt

  • 1:10:26

    in my bedroom with my red lights on

  • 1:10:29

    watching this [ __ ] i didn't want to hear

  • 1:10:30

    that [ __ ] right then

  • 1:10:32

    i'm one dead sheik over gospel music

  • 1:10:36

    and that's what i got so why the [ __ ] he

  • 1:10:38

    ain't make that call before

  • 1:10:40

    no need to worry about it no it got me

  • 1:10:42

    out of sight it got made it got

  • 1:10:44

    made so great lebron

  • 1:10:47

    jadakiss is the most underrated rapper

  • 1:10:49

    ever no he's not no he isn't

  • 1:10:52

    shut the f far from yo it's okay

  • 1:10:57

    to not say nothing

  • 1:11:00

    or when you say something don't put it

  • 1:11:04

    on him

  • 1:11:05

    put it on you jadakiss

  • 1:11:09

    styles and chic are

  • 1:11:12

    the exact same killers they've always

  • 1:11:16

    been that's true nothing has changed

  • 1:11:20

    parks has gone on for having many

  • 1:11:22

    episodes about

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