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Episode 469

Scotch and Soda

Joe Budden Podcast Episode 469, “Scotch and Soda,” released September 9, 2021. After sitting with Drake's 'Certified Lover Boy' album for the weekend, the crew discusses if their thoughts change toward the project since its release (13:07). Although Kanye's album dropped 2 weeks ago, it was the track that he didn't release that had everyone talking this weekend, specifically Andre 3000's featured verse (30:11). The crew debate why it was left off of the album and unanimously agree that 3 stacks should return to making music and Joe claims Andre 3000 is the second greatest rapper alive (40:14). Joe then opens up about his friendship with actor Michael K. Williams and reflects on his legacy and shares stories of how they crossed paths at some of their most vulnerable moments in life (1:15:57). The entire crew sends condolences to Michael's family and loved ones due to his untimely transition. Full transcript and searchable timestamps below.

Scotch and Soda

In this episode

  • 13:07After sitting with Drake's 'Certified Lover Boy' album for the weekend, the crew discusses if their thoughts c…
  • 30:11Although Kanye's album dropped 2 weeks ago, it was the track that he didn't release that had everyone talking…
  • 40:14The crew debate why it was left off of the album and unanimously agree that 3 stacks should return to making m…
  • 1:15:57Joe then opens up about his friendship with actor Michael K. Williams and reflects on his legacy and shares st…
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Joe Budden Podcast Ep. 469 Transcript

Full transcript of Scotch and Soda (2:16:21 long). Search it, or click any timestamp to jump to that moment.

  • 0:01

    what's up ish i don't wanna know what's up what's up bro we just starting i don't want i i just wanna get my sound

  • 0:07

    right not only are we just starting but you're in the presence of 41 year old joe so the yelling the interrupting

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    that i used to do that was the past so they sold in this

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    so so are you saying you're not yelling no more no for how long i don't know

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    you're not interrupting no more i don't want to be yelling yeah i'm not doing those things okay you got to mature you

  • 0:33

    got to find areas that you need to improve in and improve them so self-reflection you have anything

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    yeah yeah so if you have anything you want to get out at the start ish i don't even know if i should still

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    call you that at 41. like we on names now like we men

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    so what's your name joseph that's my name oh gosh right no more

  • 0:55

    mouse no gotcha just asking now

  • 1:02

    enough with this pre-pod banner i was coming here to hit the round of applause

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    because ice got more ice in his chain [Applause] i didn't think it was possible

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    and that's my beef with you like what did sweetie beat him to the icy branding

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    did actually named his son ice you ain't got no happy meal though bro

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    yeah not yeah like shirts and everything why you take your icy chain off before you pod oh you don't wanna uh

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    come on

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    you're not 41. i tell the truth though i tell the truth 31.

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    29. you guys look great both of you thank you thank you thank you likewise thanks

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    guys i already see the night yeah i know what it is it's brewing nothing is brewing nothing is brewing

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    all right we're my phone we got to start we got to start somewhere right let's see here

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    and rev ron let's go look at your neighbor say god came to seek it to save

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    those which were lost and i began to explain

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    to him out of love i began to say if i came into church preaching three years

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    and i was naked a lot of people would say they ain't coming because i'm crazy about it what happened is they would

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    have missed the whole ministry of isaiah because he preached three years but naked if i was in here with the g string

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    eating roaches and eating honey they'd be like i ain't going and there's something wrong with him but then they would have missed the word from a john

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    the baptist y'all ain't talking to me okay if you would have heard that uh maybe

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    that preacher was involved in a rape case and you didn't want to go with him then you would have missed the ministry

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    of a joseph for what they meant for evil god has turned around for good if you would have heard that the preacher was a

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    murderer you're not going to the church then you wouldn't receive what moses had to say if you'd heard that me and sister

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    christopher right here had an affair and i killed her and everybody in the church know that we get jiggy and then i stand up and say

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    the lord say and you don't want to hear me then you're going to miss the whole ministry like king david y'all ain't talking to me

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    that's why you've got to overlook the man sometimes and hear the word of god

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    y'all ain't talking to me [Applause] if you heard

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    if you heard that i was homosexual and you didn't understand why i was preaching this gospel you might as well

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    throw this king james bible away because in 1611 a homosexual is the one that broke this down from the living people

  • 3:49

    y'all ain't talking to me again you might as well turn down even clerking off we fall down and we get up he wrote

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    his best music when he was living in sin kirk franklin going to pornos god knows what he's doing in there getting his

  • 4:01

    jiggy all looking at the freak park putting powers with the women and he up there talking about

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    and you bounce into it ain't talking to me in here

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    [Applause] one two mic check one two one two all right

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    all right glad to see things are glad to see crowd participation still out of nowhere

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    still at an all-time high they should change now see how the baby got in trouble man it is it is rough trying to get the

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    crowd to join in on something [Music] about doing that doing a little guest dj

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    set somewhere i think you'll be ill you might not be that bad

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    [Music] i know how to select that's that's djing today that's djing

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    and that's the problem yeah you're right you might not know unfortunately unfortunately you

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    you know your bpm matching you you kind of got it i know how to do that you could read the room and play the records that you think that's ultimately what

  • 5:16

    you have to do is read the room and play the records yeah but all the technical don't really matter as much if you notice it

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    bigger but the that i complain about with the djs is what i would do if i was a dj

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    like if i was up there and i had to look at the crowd and gauge how they was feeling and i saw the baddie out there

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    but if i spotted the baddies here and i control the music and i get free

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    drinks oh this club hey what'd you say you weren't here

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    what's that not playing her all night yeah but then she come up there and you just oh

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    then then she come up there and she bumping the table i don't care the record jumping

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    but now if you did a set though like people that know your bag would

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    yeah it's a little different they're not coming to you to hear the they hear on the radio because that ain't what you play right that's why i think it would

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    be a fan if you did that yo what year was that maybe like 2012

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    13 11. then what happened dog q-tip used to have this hole in the wall on fire oh

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    what was the name of that sam something else yeah you remember you could wish anything you wanted

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    basketball shorts on another able to prime gown that that used to be on fire

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    yeah yeah i remember oh i've been out all week though i forgot

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    yeah i'm just i just said that to say though i could see you ah q-tip used to have like a little

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    because you yo now and now that y'all say that uh the other night i even brand in the

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    dj dj on dj hate that that's huge that's that's

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    yeah but it shouldn't be where i know it happens often but it shouldn't be where the party-goer can tell

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    like sunday one person was djing and it was cool

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    but then somebody else started djing remember that i said about people don't dig into the other bags

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    and they digged into every bag that the first dj skipped on the drill set

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    it was tevin jade every dancer he was boogieing in there

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    jordan i ain't heard no i know wow and i could see other party girls looking at my hand you could tell the

  • 7:39

    change in the energy and the pace and the girls are friendlier now and the drinks are flowing more they often buy

  • 7:44

    you a drink it's like they're partying now yeah we in a trance yeah especially in certain age demos

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    yes yeah yeah this guy had each demo in here rocking so we could all party together that's a real dj

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    but uh i guess the other dj was still there he wasn't he wasn't feeling it he didn't

  • 8:03

    leave he came back he saw that he didn't come back whoa liz well i don't know we was all having

  • 8:09

    too good of a time but then we stopped having the same time so it went back to a different so i

  • 8:15

    looked up and it was another it wasn't a dude again

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    and then he went back to he tried to get into some other bag he was trying would you tell that ain't his

  • 8:27

    cousin and you could tell that oh you just oh you've seen that you felt that you tried to copy and that's no

  • 8:33

    disrespect to him because i'm coming back there sunday dan what are you saying i'm going back i can't i'm not gonna tell her here but

  • 8:39

    i'll tell you you're not allowed out on the weekends come on stop stop stop stop stop stop don't talk you're my weekday friend

  • 8:46

    one last time i've seen you on like a weekend oh you twice a week that's a hot week we hang out welcome to episode two of

  • 8:52

    the ice-ish parks podcast featuring joe budden we are here it is lit shout out

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    to our first and last time listeners shout out to a bunch of you phony that left and came back for the drake review i knew y'all would

  • 9:04

    i told you i told you ah somebody popped up was like yo this is

  • 9:09

    my first time listening since the breakup i was like yo don't come now but that's the part i don't know i was joking but wait wait y'all don't have to

  • 9:15

    i see y'all doing this let me let me talk to him a little bit y'all don't have to preface it i don't care

  • 9:22

    welcome yeah they don't understand that's what i told you ain't heard of you in a while yo i left after such and

  • 9:27

    such i know it was a lot what are we here now if you're listening you're listening if you're not you're not it's fine welcome uh who else can i shout now

  • 9:34

    this episode is brought to you by us uh i'll convince you we got sponsors no no

  • 9:40

    it's us well we do must be scotch and soda all right scotch and soda don't it taste

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    great together great combo oh my god whoa

  • 9:52

    don't you love it you don't even drink [Laughter] i've never seen ice drinking scotch

  • 9:59

    or soda yeah a cola man

  • 10:05

    how you feeling today oh better than ever better than ever so no add no no

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    no oh man all right cool that was a good one cool cool so you didn't i we didn't see

  • 10:17

    you this weekend nope uh ice and i stepped down i ain't seen ice this weekend i've seen joe this weekend

  • 10:22

    yeah i've been outside he was outside a little bit it was out i partied with parks

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    imani yeah he was there oh armani i think it wouldn't sit down

  • 10:37

    i've been out a little bit it was damn man how much i've been out holidays you know

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    people should ask me for my phone number yeah i was about to say your bags off no no no no no no

  • 10:51

    see what's up man i was just just like that you really when i bagged something you really don't

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    oh i got we got a ball and a two we might need somebody come on

  • 11:02

    my bad no you're not bad that's my bad all right it's my bad my bad that's my bad

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    talking about i'm sorry if you want to stuff me i don't understand i get it cause that was up man

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    i promoted our pods i thought i was recording i thought i was promoting our part

  • 11:22

    that's all right it's all right fam we go oh see see and that's why that's why what that's why it's my guy

  • 11:27

    right here now i'm your guy that's why it's my guy he ain't even snuffing me just took care

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    of it just take care of it get you late yeah i mean talk to your lady i mean i'm sorry i did

  • 11:38

    it wrong but he straightened it out he draining it out scott right here yo moving along yo

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    scotch how was everyone's weekend i had a good

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    time i'm joking for an hour and then we're just gonna cry so let's just let's get all the jokes there yes laugh what

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    else is funny ah [Laughter]

  • 12:02

    no come on cause i mean listen ice and i went out saturday we just going it ain't much to talk about i don't have nothing

  • 12:08

    written down but i kind of like when the pile goes like that now so i'm just restarting where y'all goes trippy yeah yeah

  • 12:14

    yeah yeah yeah yeah that's russell joe on friday oh my god yeah

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    we had a good time yo i've been out but listen i've been out making observations uh he was just

  • 12:26

    people watching that's it yeah that's the best and because it's labor day weekend

  • 12:33

    and i always forget this but because it's labor day weekend it's labor day weekend shifts

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    strippers bartenders right crowd patrons shout out to patreon

  • 12:45

    yeah so friday we was there friday right yeah

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    our favorites weren't necessarily no they weren't they weren't they weren't they're booked and busy

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    they weren't there and that's fine so that just gave me time to look around at things

  • 13:02

    and maybe it's a patreon thing but i want to talk about yeah let's save it for patreon all right so we shouldn't start with that what do you want to

  • 13:07

    start with has anyone changed their mind on the drake album absolutely are we are we in the aftermath time uh i lived with it i

  • 13:14

    played it i had a couple of people over uh saturday cookout vibes girls there

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    okay it didn't it didn't work we sat there and argued about the album and there was never any dancing happening so

  • 13:25

    that works though it started conversation it started a conversation yeah you're right it worked on that level still ain't it no it's not but

  • 13:32

    and i knew this was going to happen that way too sexy record it's working

  • 13:37

    it's going to work yeah no that's new no it is it's already working it's working and it's working but it

  • 13:42

    worked before drake was born it always worked yeah it never means no they laughed it right said fred no i got

  • 13:49

    that song back then but i'm talking about with these three artists this time like it's cheesy it was just like this

  • 13:56

    ain't gonna do it i hated the song and i knew let me hear it out enough time let me

  • 14:02

    hear it outside and they knew and they make the funny video like they always make and the girls run it up on instagram

  • 14:09

    genius yeah that and it's working yeah it's working but

  • 14:14

    yeah a lot of women hit me too like yo didn't love it

  • 14:19

    no it's not i just thought it was cool it's right cool like it's not bad this this is what i think happened i

  • 14:26

    think all of the hoopla between the drake and kanye pushed us to think he was going to just

  • 14:33

    release this thriller you know what i'll say about uh both these albums

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    j cole is the um man we gotta start putting a little more respect on j cole absolutely

  • 14:47

    well yeah but how'd you get there just because he's amazing he came out he came out there was no question he came

  • 14:52

    out first no question he came on fire dope or not yeah there was not ever a doubt ever anyone's mind and i still

  • 14:59

    played it and it came out first and it came out first i didn't wait for nobody i don't need to know what you're doing

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    yeah i don't know about your project let me oh i know you might be dropping here let me no no no no all y'all i'm

  • 15:10

    here and i'm out that's it like i think that we thought

  • 15:15

    based on again all the kanye drake hoopla he was going to just release the michael jackson thriller and he didn't he

  • 15:22

    just released a regular drake album which is it and i know this is just literally

  • 15:27

    a regular drake album it has no

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    i do you think it's interesting and i wa uh we talked about him releasing another

  • 15:38

    album in 2025 or something crazy i think we're going to get another trick album very soon very soon yeah because

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    i'm starting to hear people you know saying that this album was leaks different people are saying yeah i heard this record such as such crit

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    three years ago and that's not how he moves correct in the past i'm only comparing him to himself

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    we've gotten drake records that leaked and he went and retooled everything like oh yeah i got that it sounds like old

  • 16:02

    work this does not sound it sounds like old work it really does like i put my all into this is my baby this don't

  • 16:08

    sound like that sounds like old work and i wouldn't be battered for that because it's still the world's still ain't right he still can't do what he wants to do he

  • 16:13

    can't go do the stadium tour really like how he wants to do with the flying lamborghinis and all that i think

  • 16:18

    there was a little bit more pressure behind him putting the album out he had to put something out yeah it's the same way that that scary hour's too possible

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    dropped when it dropped yeah he has deals in place with people that's revolving around music excuse me

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    revolving around music and it's like yo fam i get it but we business ain't stopping you need to give

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    us something it's the same way scary hours came out okay cool let me give you this i could do my radio show

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    cause they announced the radio show then there was no show right so we got to give you something i think

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    this is the same thing with this album all right cool you know what it makes sense here's the album it was halfway done this leaked or whatever you want to

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    call it i could throw some more records on there put this out here we go this is not great he's been his team in the

  • 17:01

    studio way too much for the past two years for this to be six or seven songs that have been out in

  • 17:07

    some form or fashion in the last two or three years that makes sense that's weird

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    so that's why i think i might get another drake album next year even the sound yo just the sound was just

  • 17:19

    old work man that sounds like twice the rawson you can hear that that is an old

  • 17:24

    record like i could just hear it and it just does not sound like what drake does when he puts an album out this sounds like

  • 17:31

    when i throw the little project or throwaways and lucy's out right the mixtape or the playlist or whatever you wanna this sounds like that we'll have a

  • 17:37

    couple hits on there so yeah i'm gonna give you something on there yeah and again i'm not saying this is trash or anything like that this is just uh like

  • 17:44

    that's why i gave it a six it's right there it's nothing groundbreaking about this it doesn't sound like they put they

  • 17:50

    all into it and was just yeah yeah all right all right here here let me give y'all this to shut you up it's a

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    pacifier album the other crazy is drake dropped the best song of the past two years this weekend and it wasn't on

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    his album yeah he did i wasn't even here let's not speed to that i'm gonna relax relax

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    get to this how do you feel about it after uh leveling it for a couple days i'm with joe yeah i'm gonna draw this is cool let's go

  • 18:14

    yeah it's regular right it's a c but here's where i feel better than a lot of people

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    y'all are right i think a lot of this is old yeah

  • 18:24

    i think a lot of it is old i and if i subscribe to that i do believe that he's

  • 18:29

    probably coming next summer yeah and if i subscribe to that and then i look at the album cover

  • 18:36

    yeah and then i read the credits and then i listen again because he wants when you listen again and again and

  • 18:42

    again because i listen i like to unpack this champagne poetry the intro was fire yeah

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    to me but it was old fire that felt like one of the newer ones to me personally but not me

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    not me at all even if it was it didn't it didn't feel like like what he would normally do on an intro that's

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    what that's what i mean it didn't sound like current head space what drake would do on intro it sounds like it would be

  • 19:09

    track 14 normally yeah like i'm not trying to set the stage of my new album after

  • 19:15

    going through all the we've been off for two years even the b flips work

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    down it was the same right the b flip wasn't the same poppy's home

  • 19:27

    i skip it because i'm not saying singing poppy's home with you but cool that sounds kind of like it

  • 19:34

    could fall on that boat too see and this is where you start jazzing things up girls want girls was a phone

  • 19:40

    call for him in the bible is a phone call for him and love all is probably an old record

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    and a phone call but we know love all is a whole record we know cause we heard it we have we've

  • 19:53

    fair trade was a phone call and travis were you trying to get him back for

  • 19:59

    sicko mode because you tried it yeah hey on the second and third listen

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    hey that ain't just travis he's trying to do it hey travis got the call and was like oh

  • 20:12

    yeah it's on the way back i've been waiting for this one yeah yeah yeah and drake just let you win

  • 20:19

    and that said to me uh okay way too sexy more phone calls and the

  • 20:24

    single we need that sounds like one that they tried yeah i'm saying yeah we need the single yeah

  • 20:30

    and then i'm looking at that even drake dropped an album without a single in hindsight all of this is

  • 20:37

    i was surprised that none of them records from the various eps and singles that leaked were on here that tells me

  • 20:42

    something i don't know what it tells me but it tells me something because usually they would usually he'll take the biggest one and throw it on there

  • 20:48

    yeah exactly bumped it up you know what i'm saying those records were always before i expected to see slide or laugh now cry later when i saw

  • 20:55

    him list the features i said please don't let the dirk record be laugh now cry later and another thing i notice about dirk

  • 21:02

    was we said it on uh laugh now cry later because it sounded like he just got as soon as he was

  • 21:07

    getting in the verse he just stopped he let it go and i we we made the joke

  • 21:12

    that you know drake saw him getting ready to go i was like no no let me get back in here did the same thing on this verse he

  • 21:19

    starts going he promotes his girls brand which was amazing i loved that and it just stopped

  • 21:24

    like he just it's like he ran out of gas mid verse tsu more the same and too deep for me

  • 21:30

    more the same tsu is another old one i didn't realize that yeah csu is another old one it was desirous on the preview

  • 21:37

    in too deep i know i want him to stop calling future so i'm done

  • 21:43

    even though the second half or one of them halves one of them halves but i ain't got time for all this

  • 21:49

    now yeah but no don't go back no punch down right now that's my favorite song that's

  • 21:54

    my one i don't care what he made that should have been on this album yeah

  • 22:01

    yeah but should have been there should have been longer probably my favorite on this album no friends in the industry i like

  • 22:07

    that too but still oh yeah it don't sound i mean that wasn't a

  • 22:12

    previous leak or not but it sounds it sounds drake is a like for the times guy he

  • 22:18

    ain't gonna miss the times that record there's a time for that he actually did it already

  • 22:23

    he did that whole he bodied that but it's there it i'll take it they played it in the strip club i'll take it

  • 22:29

    that's the record they played that and too sexy yeah but that was it and normally for drake dropped where i normally get a little more than that in

  • 22:35

    the strip club that's where i go kinda uh no uh no friends in industry knife talk i like i like night talk yeah i

  • 22:42

    don't i like knife talk i do i like it as i continue to listen i liked it more

  • 22:47

    than i had and seven a.m we don't have to talk about

  • 22:53

    last the night before this album but that's new that's the brand that's boring that's hot off the press that one was i

  • 23:00

    got you on my mind yeah all the rest of this same

  • 23:05

    same so we ain't got to do all that i'm sure we bored y'all or some of y'all with three hours of drake before but he

  • 23:12

    deserves that we don't have to do that now i got cursed but we out kind why oh they

  • 23:17

    was letting me have it how dare you give it a six now some people was rocking with you

  • 23:24

    i don't read the comments i'm talking about my mentions on social media yeah people they respect you

  • 23:29

    now aubry you made one mistake

  • 23:38

    how do i say this this is not a drake like mistake to me you think it's a mistake

  • 23:44

    i'm saying it's a mistake now maybe he did it purposely but he should have did this oh i see why

  • 23:50

    it's a mistake because this is better than everything okay good which which i get it all right so

  • 23:56

    let me ask you this and drake knows that because he's just a fan of 3k he knows what three stacks is

  • 24:03

    i think he made the same mistake that i made it's what he don't call me a narcissist i get it but i just i literally just had that conversation

  • 24:09

    same exactly that i made that uh palm pump it up on the no

  • 24:14

    shopping and i got i knew it existed before y'all knew and i rushed to it and y'all flamed

  • 24:20

    me up and i think that's what he did he knew this track existed

  • 24:26

    and he knew it was like a real thing and he got it somehow and before you put this greatness out

  • 24:33

    i'm gonna put this greatness out to step on some of your but it didn't

  • 24:38

    no it did the opposite that was way too good the rest of this podcast at least for

  • 24:44

    the next 40 minutes will be about this this right here shut up kanye yeah

  • 24:50

    this ain't about you right now go find god

  • 24:57

    this is crazy let's stop it i couldn't listen to it on the weekend once people were tweeting what it was about i was like this is gonna make me

  • 25:02

    like sad and introspective this whole weekend i can't do this right now i wish i did that this is too good

  • 25:10

    i woke up to yo you seen what happened yo yo yo text messages everything like the are y'all talking about and

  • 25:15

    then i listen and i just sat there andre 3000 is the most

  • 25:21

    amazing human human alien that ever existed

  • 25:27

    his ability to describe the human experience that poetically no he gets bit he's crazy

  • 25:35

    he's top ten top seven probably lyrically all time he's definitely top time

  • 25:42

    i'm with you i'm with you easy like easy people are better at rapping than yeah i

  • 25:48

    think he's in everybody's lyrical top ten probably musical talk you ought to say lyrically

  • 25:54

    like you don't have some of the finest music of all time with outcast and it's not him though it's a group you

  • 26:00

    know what i'm saying he was in the group and this is why we need more andre 3000

  • 26:05

    discussions because now he's this is how they all go he was in a group well i don't care i mean

  • 26:11

    i don't care i don't don't take any points away you never did a solo album it doesn't even take a point he only pops up once every

  • 26:18

    because when he pops up he does this i get that but yeah holding him to the candles in the

  • 26:24

    top andre 3000 is the second best rapper alive he might be the best

  • 26:30

    he's not the best in my opinion he might be the best but this is what i'll say to that

  • 26:37

    because i had an interesting talk with my cousin who gave me a beautiful analogy

  • 26:43

    for andre 3000 and he took me back to what movie was that goodwill hunting

  • 26:50

    who's in google aren't he uh matt damon matt damon and i have a clip here

  • 26:56

    i would play it let me see if i could play this i think you could show me some appreciation

  • 27:01

    a little appreciation could do this you know how easy this is for me dude you have any idea how easy this this is a joke

  • 27:08

    and i'm sorry you can't do this i really am because i wouldn't have to sit here and watch you fumble around and it up you still go anywhere yeah of

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    course

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    you're right this is probably a total waste of my time

  • 27:29

    i want to watch this movie again anyway the long and short is

  • 27:35

    genius genius level shitty talking about being geniuses i'm gonna let him do it cause he does it better than me

  • 27:41

    but then i'm gonna compare this to jay-z and andre because i feel like jay-z has to feel

  • 27:47

    like this about andre you have to know when it comes to that it's only about me pause this you have

  • 27:54

    to know that there's a man out there with this ability yeah

  • 27:59

    this genius level that probably only you could really tell just how genius it is

  • 28:05

    and he's chilling playing the flute going to starbucks and that you just have to know it and when you

  • 28:12

    hear this while being regular kind of even though he's like weird and that's centric and all that

  • 28:18

    but that's the thing you don't have to do the i'm bigger than you i'm better than you i'm richer than you and more brilliant than alex he just does it so

  • 28:25

    and goodwill hunting the professor is like he won the math award twice he's like that guy right he's braggadocious a

  • 28:32

    little bit bravado you get a kid that's up fighting on the street that's mopping floors at mit and he

  • 28:40

    could do some that you can't do in an hour you know what i'm saying he's just and he's just wasting his gifts so the

  • 28:46

    dude says yo dawg there are only three people in the world that could do this you one of them and and it hurt it saddens me that you

  • 28:53

    wasting your gifts out here doing nothing with them jay-z has to say that about this guy yo if i'm gonna instigate

  • 29:00

    hip-hop then the great's ain't excluded either he has to feel like that about somebody

  • 29:06

    that can do this this effortlessly and just beautifully

  • 29:13

    he has to be the second best rapper alive barna

  • 29:19

    i'm running i'm trying to run just rapping ability i'm with you i'm just going to run through my head i'm with you i'm talking about

  • 29:31

    i i i'm cool with that but when i start hearing yes that not having an album counts no no it counts you have to

  • 29:39

    be able to compete you got to jump out there you got to do it nope i'm sorry okay

  • 29:45

    i used to say what isis is saying i'm with parks have you ever heard of yes i have have

  • 29:51

    you heard atlanta i have he's a goal there's nothing you can't don't care and

  • 29:56

    big boy was amazing too now big boys all right forget rapping for a second let's rapping words all of that

  • 30:05

    vocal control this is a master class it is it

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    really is and it is every time he does this yes he does it a lot he does that right there what he's doing

  • 30:17

    now yeah often he made we just had that talk and i'm like yo he makes it i want to know

  • 30:23

    how long it took him to do this and i'm sure it was really short like this sounds like all right i just

  • 30:29

    just think this and say it right not many can do that you asked me that at the strip club and i was like

  • 30:34

    honestly probably 10 minutes this does not sound like i said think about it like

  • 30:41

    if your mom passed and then a beautiful soundtrack came on

  • 30:47

    you had to write something to it from someone whose mother also passed right yeah on an album centered around

  • 30:54

    his mother passing that verse that verse it wouldn't take long and i'm both

  • 31:00

    shocked and understanding why kanye didn't put that out i don't know if i would be i don't know if i would be able to put that out tell me the

  • 31:06

    understanding part well this is dirty and we'll take this from parsley answer

  • 31:12

    i just want to read andre's statement on what happened so we could kind of explain some of this

  • 31:17

    kanye put out a gospel album this verse is a dirty verse even though i didn't really hear a curse where i wasn't i was

  • 31:22

    too mesmerized was i was too mesmerized yeah that didn't matter but okay you cursed

  • 31:30

    kanye can't make it a gospel album if there's curse words and according to uh here it is i read it but i'll read it

  • 31:35

    for the people that missed this andre three stacks says a few weeks ago kanye reached out about

  • 31:41

    me being a part of the dondal i was inspired by his idea to make a musical tribute to his mom it felt appropriate

  • 31:46

    to support the donda concept by referencing my own mother who passed away in 2013.

  • 31:52

    we both shared that loss i thought it was a beautiful choice to make a clean album but unfortunately i didn't know

  • 31:58

    that was the plan before i wrote and recorded my verse it was clear to me that an edited version that an edited clean format of

  • 32:05

    the verse would not work without having the raw original also available so sadly i had to be omitted from the original

  • 32:12

    album release the track i received and wrote to didn't have the dis verse on it and we were hoping to make a more focused offering

  • 32:18

    for the donda album let me stop right there and explain to the people what this is

  • 32:24

    he's pissed he's tight yeah he's pissed he's tight you used me as a player you used me for

  • 32:30

    this i would have never i would have never been a part of you dis and drake he's tight at both of them i don't know if he's tired of both of

  • 32:35

    them he's tight above him yes walkers drake leaked it yeah yeah he's tight at both of them and in

  • 32:41

    defense of kanye and i don't know if this is true it sounded like a ref verse he might not have been done with that verse you know what i'm saying like at

  • 32:47

    the end he's just freestyling with the auto tune on which he does sometimes right yeah yeah it didn't sound like

  • 32:53

    what he usually does when he freestyles with the auto tune on like i'm not sure that this was the intended final thing

  • 32:59

    it wasn't yeah andre 3000 is saying keep me out your man yeah yeah but a more focused

  • 33:06

    offering let's stay there for a second caught me and said yo i'm doing a donda album tribute to my mom from my mother

  • 33:12

    and i want you on here lost your mind and that's what he's saying like okay i can relate to you we

  • 33:18

    share that loss we both lost our moms right focus i'm locked right here we're going to go 40-something years old

  • 33:25

    that's what you do but yeah this is what you take this verse and do but look but he's dre so he says but i

  • 33:31

    guess things happen like they're supposed to it's unfortunate that it was released in this way up

  • 33:36

    drinking it's unfortunate that it was released in this way and two artists that i love are going back and forth he

  • 33:42

    ate all that i wanted to be on certified lover boy too

  • 33:48

    hey i want to be on kendrick you too and guess what hey and i want to work with a little baby and tyler and jack

  • 33:55

    and hove i respect them all beautiful what a classic round of

  • 34:01

    applause classiest guy in the world

  • 34:07

    if this song somehow made that kanye album the talk goes differently it's different

  • 34:13

    this is different it goes it's another certified now let me get a big joker yeah let me hold joe hold on

  • 34:20

    let me ask you it goes different for the 3000 verse no no no this is an album changer yeah it is

  • 34:29

    for what kind i'm saying what kanye did because your your argument was before

  • 34:34

    ice scotland he ain't rapping but everybody he's put on the album was doing all the right are you talking to

  • 34:39

    ish yeah okay your argument before was kanye's not really rapping on this album like that nothing that impressed you really so

  • 34:46

    everything was the features doing all the wrapping so i'm asking you this song going on the album makes it a game

  • 34:52

    changer for andre 3000's verse or for the whole song contingent upon what kanye would have

  • 34:58

    done well we know what he did no we don't no we don't i don't think he puts that he didn't do anything

  • 35:04

    he didn't do anything he ain't doing nothing he went he wouldn't ever even try to get the melody and he tried to get the he started he started with doing

  • 35:10

    some donda at the beginning and then he struck it off he started getting a foot in his ass if kanye

  • 35:16

    it's all he started to do hey kanye yukons who else i who else is over there

  • 35:23

    dog but it's not a it's not a knock no no no you can't no it's not yeah with that one

  • 35:29

    you're going to get a what are you gonna do i had sleepless nights over fab studio sessions sometimes

  • 35:36

    what do you do when that person walks in a studio and does that no before he does

  • 35:42

    anything he walked in like kobe walking in the

  • 35:47

    gym i ain't got to shoot and the wild is coming he obviously he did his verse empty

  • 35:53

    because he was like i didn't he didn't know that was up there that diss track wasn't on so he just got the beat right

  • 35:58

    so what do you do when you get that back no so again so kanye went on there he

  • 36:05

    got that verse back and was confused

  • 36:10

    he was trying to find him a little and done no dog no no no dog no

  • 36:17

    no you know what it's like first you know how you bring it you bring your hood friend over right you bring your

  • 36:22

    hood friend up maybe this is old school cause dude people have good friends they're all up yeah yeah yeah we

  • 36:28

    got one this is me yeah you don't bring it on your house no more though right sometimes

  • 36:33

    yeah for real yeah i love my hood friends we're just my brothers bro

  • 36:38

    absolutely am i too i know but that one hood friend you bring your

  • 36:44

    house he maybe shouldn't have been in your house but he's so nice to your mom

  • 36:49

    hey miss such-and-such now then when y'all leave your mom is beating you down about how cool such and

  • 36:55

    such is you're like yo this is a killer certified and that's what happened when

  • 37:00

    you came on the berm hello miss donda this is going somewhere different they

  • 37:07

    did a whole album about donda and nobody gave me what what the goosebumps that i got from even

  • 37:13

    hey there miss donda no my point is and why do mama and why do all of us have that story about quit

  • 37:20

    smoking going to the store and now you smoking and that's like a black urban

  • 37:25

    legend let me ask you this in a in a

  • 37:32

    egotistical maybe insecure thing did he keep this off this

  • 37:37

    album on purpose no no no no no i think he kept it off the album because he wasn't able to do

  • 37:42

    with it what he wanted to do with it and i still think he had plans for this song because why are you premiering

  • 37:52

    we don't know that he yo there could be a deluxe coming we don't know is what i'm saying no ain't nothing coming with

  • 37:58

    this no no no no no it goes back to our kanye and dre fighting over the stems thing where we had that fight like

  • 38:04

    you're right anybody else changes the verse hey who i don't know when they did this but he said hey i didn't even know

  • 38:09

    that's what you was doing on it i know you wanted to clean you didn't tell me everybody else when they flew into that mercedes-benz they had to talk hey come

  • 38:16

    in this falcon's locker room or whatever the they had and let's talk but he didn't tell them that and you not calling andre to say

  • 38:23

    you'll change your version you're not and he's going to say no hey when the verse is that good you're not asking him to change a thing

  • 38:29

    and you can't ask me to change this so again what did you do with the person

  • 38:34

    he bleeped out other curses from other artists that's what i understand what the other artists consent

  • 38:41

    i know so again andre is saying i'm not letting him bleep my out without y'all

  • 38:46

    having this right there was no way to do that versus what's going on you got to get yeah if you're going to make a clean

  • 38:51

    you have to get the wrong did you understand this be saying something different i thought he's saying something different

  • 38:57

    i'm thinking he's assuming that that is why they took that course of action he didn't confirm that that's why they took

  • 39:03

    that course of action he's saying under my assumption this is maybe why we did this it was too raw until the very very

  • 39:10

    end he didn't give you nothing that couldn't have been on a gospel album

  • 39:15

    until the end when he's talked about having sex and then i think he said some other curse word but that's it other the

  • 39:21

    other artists and features on this album said way more than this that could have gotten bleeped out easy

  • 39:28

    this is up there for verse of the year yeah oh no first the last couple years no this is this is this is this is this

  • 39:34

    is it's different you know i used to come in here and say and i used to say it kind of jokingly

  • 39:39

    but not like the young girls don't have no bruises on them on their knees and like they just clean they skin

  • 39:45

    everywhere and we all laugh oh god what do you mean you stupid weird but this is what i mean by that this verse sounds

  • 39:51

    like a aged dude that's just fell and got scarves and bumps and guys and

  • 39:58

    containers here and i can get busy yeah and that sword is still

  • 40:04

    getting too sharp and every time i start saying this about three stacks i immediately go into well where do i rank

  • 40:11

    big boy then if i'm doing all this about hours and that's where the conversation gets convoluted and confusing

  • 40:19

    three stacks is the second best rapper alive he's better than big boy well hear me out i'm not here no no no no no no no

  • 40:26

    hear me out hear me out hear me out you say he's amazing second best

  • 40:32

    alive you say he's definitely better than big boy and this is not taking anything away from either one of them but if big boy keeps up with andre on on

  • 40:40

    on every album which is damn near impossible to do and big boy puts out his own solo albums

  • 40:46

    where he's rapping at a top tier can big boy what a fool got to do with rapping

  • 40:54

    i didn't ask you that i asked you i don't know you might i don't know i don't know i don't know okay

  • 41:00

    andre was also producing a lot of this too not for nothing i just never understand the big boy

  • 41:05

    oversight when i get andre i think boy is also a genius i i'm gonna tell you what i think that when eminem

  • 41:12

    dropped that verse and when he said andre 3000's name when he listed his the top 10 or the greatest

  • 41:19

    whatever that at that point it was cemented people said yes 3k is this dude

  • 41:24

    but it wasn't uh mandatory he's listed in your top until it is diverse i disagree wholeheartedly because i don't

  • 41:31

    even i don't even know what verse you're talking about so that definitely doesn't do it after atleast he was inching up

  • 41:40

    him is what i'm saying because he what he does is he can rap better it's it's different

  • 41:45

    that far off it is like like day and night with them you know it's not going to be no big boy is amazing stop stop

  • 41:51

    stop okay i'll try my best to answer for you it seems that way

  • 41:58

    because andre scores from spots on the floor that big boy can't

  • 42:04

    where big boy scores from he's better than probably 97 98 of all

  • 42:09

    of those rappers when we just talking rapping and making music and making albums

  • 42:14

    cool but when you start getting into the other elements the artistry the the funny dress the singing that thing the

  • 42:21

    goosebumps the the pace of the record goosebumps the goosebumps

  • 42:26

    you know what it is like you know joel rapper so they started talking about getting in pockets and doing all of that

  • 42:32

    tricky dedicated like he could do it that mystery helps

  • 42:37

    that one mystery that that andre the elusive corkiness yeah all of that that i pop out every now and then no no no

  • 42:44

    i'm not again this is not a knock it really isn't i'm just saying there are things that big boys stay consistent big boy's

  • 42:50

    amazing no see this is what you're saying is part of my beef about jay elect like you talking about three stats like

  • 42:57

    jaylette pops out and we praise him when he pops out and i'll be sitting here like hey man

  • 43:02

    it's been a verse every know three stacks we can't do that with no

  • 43:07

    you can't that's almost like you're gone you can't do that with you can't do the twitter because at least three stacks gave you group projects

  • 43:15

    but he also gave me the love below and while it's not a

  • 43:21

    solo album from a marketing standpoint it is a solo album it's a solo album just because it wasn't marketing and if

  • 43:27

    it were to be re-released today alone in the streaming era how long is that album

  • 43:34

    it's an hour or something close to it it could stand alone and it would do great so that's my example of solo album when

  • 43:39

    we start talking about him and it's a doozy nah he's just that one is tough he's

  • 43:44

    different that one is like i'm the rapper he can rap rap bro that one is like miss education and three stacks yeah yeah like yo he can rap rap like

  • 43:52

    again my thing is i listen to what say that can rap rap and

  • 43:57

    this is nothing i hate having the argument because i don't ever want to sound like you're taking anything away from big boy

  • 44:02

    because he's incredible talking to somebody rap nerd really feral to be specific why do we do that

  • 44:08

    in hip-hop i know but let's get it with drake we get this point let me get this point off let him land fair i was talking to pharaoh about it one day he's like having a dude that's consistent

  • 44:15

    next to you like that he did with prince poe and organized confusion allows you to do

  • 44:20

    extra weird that's true that is true and i don't think that the argument of putting pharaoh or um andre or

  • 44:27

    pharaoh for that matter up here should take away from where big boy or prince po land at being incredible rappers we

  • 44:33

    don't have to do that i have a great grade we don't have to do that i think it's a great now that's true you could take andre right and you could

  • 44:40

    call him michael jordan or you could call him steph curry the two you named another

  • 44:45

    oh oh aren't you like look you're right again those two guys andre could be

  • 44:52

    michael jordan or steph curry right and big boy could be scottie pippen or klay thompson

  • 44:59

    scott clay thompson is arguably top five shooter of all time it's nothing against them scotty pippen is top 50 player of

  • 45:05

    all time it's nothing against them they're great but you're talking about michael jordan and steph curry right so that's the

  • 45:12

    andre big boy is that dude man but even in looking at that right there's rumors for years about whatever went on between

  • 45:18

    outcasts none of i can't say with any certainty what happened he said it on the ti verse

  • 45:24

    um sorry i'm sorry sorry sorry what are you sorry i up all the tours i was all the way you were crazy that's a yeah

  • 45:31

    that was one of my favorite 3000 verses yeah that in 16. like recently that was i think a very

  • 45:38

    nice way to tell us i'm sure yeah yeah but what i'm saying is even with that and how he handled that and with what

  • 45:45

    little we know about that we can imagine how he feels about how this drake kanye plays out to two people he loves

  • 45:51

    and how they handling the dispute yeah and i'm old like i don't wanna be a part of that you know old be

  • 45:58

    seeking peace like i don't want none to do it the last thing i want is more

  • 46:04

    yeah and i don't want my name then i don't want to be in your yeah like you're my like word you're

  • 46:09

    going to be on kanye diss track i didn't know it was a diss track don't shoot no fire this way like even if i

  • 46:15

    don't want none of that even in fact he gotta say that yeah he's like fam i have to put a statement out that's true he had to

  • 46:20

    i gotta do this yeah and i don't do that i don't do this i don't like talking to you i'm a guy at all i have to put a

  • 46:26

    statement out now because of y'all true i don't feel like being a part of this

  • 46:32

    that's just why how many times has uh andre and hoe been on the same song

  • 46:39

    uh i do of jeezy's album

  • 46:44

    um i-d-o-i-d-o yeah i'm trying to think i can't think of

  • 46:51

    that that hasn't happened enough that might be it it hasn't happened enough that might be

  • 46:56

    it that might be the one that might be it yeah and the original version had drake on there too but i don't know what happened

  • 47:04

    but yeah that might be it that should change yeah i don't know why that's happening

  • 47:09

    like that but that should change that's just my opinion i think again people's personalities sometimes don't

  • 47:15

    mesh not saying that against them but again andre 3000 is not the public guy i wouldn't be surprised too if because

  • 47:22

    they kind of both pee like hard knock life and uh equipment i were the same year

  • 47:27

    there might have been some now we can't do this yet we're kind of in competition here

  • 47:33

    again but throughout their history you would think that yeah that was 15 years ago you know what i'm

  • 47:38

    saying i'm going to do some research on this i know that hove has the most respect and i know he said it

  • 47:44

    somewhere publicly 3 000 ew like the male version yeah lauren hill

  • 47:49

    he said it on uh star is born yeah listen he is going he's

  • 47:56

    going up crazy on this one while talking to kanye's mother the entire verse while talking to me

  • 48:03

    no but i'm just saying like how do you structure a ver like that's the first time i got goosebumps from a song and i don't i don't remember how long

  • 48:10

    i was just having a conversation maybe two weeks ago with somebody i was listening to somebody i was talking and then my new thing was trying to talk to

  • 48:15

    people and they were saying how they have their mom's last name and they just said it quick

  • 48:20

    and it paused me up wait wait wait wait wait wait and you okay with that was dad okay with

  • 48:27

    that did you ever inquire about it did you never want to change women do it spitefully

  • 48:32

    i know my daughter that's like a big i know but we talked about that before too much but that's a big thing for me women

  • 48:38

    do it spitefully he said it but that's a big thing for me because all right the name is the name but it's

  • 48:44

    our blood it's it's dad blood in there so i mean you're just going to wipe my name out and then what happens to me then so for

  • 48:51

    him to touch on this yeah and he said it burns the song that his mother did it

  • 48:56

    spitefully i'm just incredible crazy he's bugging so look up to this

  • 49:03

    far what on this particular masterpiece

  • 49:08

    is perverted that it can't reach a gospel maybe maybe not bleeped out in terms of

  • 49:14

    the only certain

  • 49:26

    i didn't think about what they were saying that he said i had to be presented both ways and i didn't yeah he

  • 49:32

    tried he tried i like what he tried i liked where he started he lost it yeah but

  • 49:37

    now he started going he started going he started going to the beginning but then he lost it he did

  • 49:52

    let's just say that's not true no come on let's do it just to be politically

  • 50:08

    um landing gear trouble we gotta come back down grand opening grand closing

  • 50:16

    isn't this great our flight leaves at eight flight lands in nana this was like from sumter to columbia

  • 50:22

    yeah this was this was dc to virginia this month it's like when you go to a little crop

  • 50:28

    duster plane from boston to whistler let me tell you let me tell you the flag that kanye took off

  • 50:34

    queens to jersey jersey i know that kanye is that dude yeah he's

  • 50:40

    that dude but let me stop y'all in no universe

  • 50:46

    can kanye do something with that it's different levels to rap i'm telling

  • 50:52

    y'all something he heard that and was couldn't wait to hear curse i've got to go

  • 50:59

    take this off this is his gospel trace sorry i didn't tell you no but what's all this this the

  • 51:04

    crazy part drake heard that and said this cannot come out over there on good music

  • 51:09

    i must do something about this drake said y'all 40. hold the candle

  • 51:14

    line stop the candles and put the candles away for a minute we have it yeah we going live tonight

  • 51:20

    yeah you tried he came in with all that listen kanye you would have to wait a little while you'd have to write some

  • 51:26

    hey you cons all y'all would've had to vote for on some yo they both be saying the same draker kanye they

  • 51:33

    both want to over my seeds dead body imma kill you play with my business and the like

  • 51:39

    are either one of them trying to hurt a child like why they keep saying that

  • 51:47

    he's trying to be talking to drake let me talk to you directly

  • 51:52

    since your engineer can't do it the engineer couldn't take nothing back

  • 51:57

    you've been over 33 hours what do you want from him he's trying to get some shutout yo yo

  • 52:03

    you know and you know that's true cause he was supposed to be up at 7 30 and woke up

  • 52:08

    like he's exhausted you're running a slave camp over there you're having to mix vocals make adidas make

  • 52:15

    clogs

  • 52:24

    yeah you got the engineer giving justin the boy some girly quotes

  • 52:30

    respectfully though hey he's running a sweatshop

  • 52:36

    i forgot the point i was making in there making clogs and beats at the same time

  • 52:42

    when it was time to hold that shirt he told you to turn me up and tear a

  • 52:48

    hole no but this is the funniest four texts

  • 52:53

    in a row ever good morning less work you're

  • 52:58

    fired go go home stop texting go go find god

  • 53:05

    family god can't be the religious guy and tell him you can't tell people to go find god

  • 53:12

    passive aggressively and that's my point about you just finding trendy

  • 53:18

    and not really being about stop look what you got 3k into

  • 53:23

    and no the crazy part is you so religious and you start talking about your dick and cursing and all that other

  • 53:28

    in the verse he started talking about his dick and better stop playing with me and

  • 53:35

    they could kiss my dick man fantasy spam said on gd like you you claim it too

  • 53:45

    talking about the gangsters disciples i'm putting this on ged you a gang banger

  • 53:51

    i don't i don't know i mean i can't keep up the merch did have a six-pointed start when it things

  • 53:58

    are starting to click a lot of that yeah things starting to click if you really want to lose the logo for the album had it some starting to click

  • 54:04

    but you know the logo for the album that ain't my place i mean oh yeah i didn't take any of that

  • 54:10

    from the larry hoover [Laughter]

  • 54:18

    when there was a 30-minute break on that album to free larry uber i was like oh

  • 54:26

    uh the last listening joint he did the one in chicago right bam had a record on there called gd

  • 54:32

    anthem and all the record kept saying which i don't let the gd's in the building that's the whole song oh that's

  • 54:38

    like jostling do it like it's my b day baby do it like it's my b day wish he kept repeating it don't do that

  • 54:44

    because somebody should have played that on my birthday y'all you gotta drop the ball we had all right that was good that's

  • 54:50

    kept playing stevie wonder where was jocelyn

  • 54:55

    and i was doing it like a come on anyway yeah yeah no please stop so what did gdp yeah he had the gd anthem on the

  • 55:02

    i'm staying out of gd business

  • 55:14

    but you're the christian guy there could be christian christians need christian gangs knows

  • 55:20

    yeah christians that's the name of the game

  • 55:28

    jesus christ is their big homie that's the name of the gang can

  • 55:36

    no i'm just saying like i like to me that's that's so you can't put andre three thousands verse on there because

  • 55:42

    you're making a gospel album and you holier than thou but on the same exact track you telling people to kiss your

  • 55:48

    dick okay now now let me if if i am to believe your argument that that's not

  • 55:54

    kanye's final version bullshitting on that thing y'all weren't supposed to hear that y'all not supposed

  • 56:00

    to know i'm the hypocrite true you're not supposed to know something you wasn't supposed to say i

  • 56:05

    mean yeah we know but no you know but you know forget what the world knows you know and if you're living in your truth

  • 56:11

    you're quote unquote truth and you've gone by these criteria that there could be no curses and there should be none of

  • 56:17

    stuff on the album you wouldn't even be writing a verse like this i'm a billionaire name a billionaire that's

  • 56:23

    not evil i wouldn't say it's not going to do what they want to do yeah they they they are

  • 56:30

    that what park said i don't know about evil you know there's a little stretch but it's it's it's a lot of evil too

  • 56:35

    though yeah there's some behind it it's broke that be eagle that's right i get that like so i'm not i'm not

  • 56:40

    and i and i don't i don't subscribe to that anything okay i don't subscribe that every person that when you amass a

  • 56:46

    certain amount of wealth that it turns you into something evil i don't oh i don't mean that way oh you said

  • 56:52

    you said all of them yeah but i mean like there was some if you dig back far enough it's some evil in there in

  • 56:57

    that wealth to obtain that wealth it's new billionaires dig back into them too there's some

  • 57:03

    there that's all i'm saying there i mean a lot of them yeah but i don't subscribe to all of them but again with

  • 57:09

    him doing this i think that 3000 was so fire that him being the narcissist that he is

  • 57:16

    didn't put that on him that's what i personally believe it's possible again doctor

  • 57:22

    out rap about your mom fam i i can't see i got it he bodied it

  • 57:27

    gotta disagree with him how does that not make the cut i don't think it's for that reason because he got out wrapped by jay elect

  • 57:34

    he got right out right by every feature on this album every single every single one of us

  • 57:43

    he killed it so bad i can't put this out first off i got he got all right by fabio

  • 57:49

    all right yeah he did so if i'm not feeling that flavio

  • 57:55

    if i'm gonna get outrapped by somebody you'd rather it be him and that's nothing against fabio that

  • 58:01

    makes sense that makes sense i want it by somebody that's on everybody's goatless that makes sense so yeah i'll put this out if that's the

  • 58:08

    case if that's the reasoning for it makes sense not what you're saying yeah yeah all right that makes sense like

  • 58:14

    yeah if i'm gonna get yeah it was something else i think it was i think it was incomplete i really think that he was done i think with kanye and his whole

  • 58:21

    living art thing we ain't done with the donda album that might be true too that might be which is

  • 58:26

    why he was over there in europe which is why drake got that about it he's viewing the verse for people right

  • 58:33

    because he previewed the verse one day and then the very next night drake said nah

  • 58:39

    we're not waiting for whatever you're doing it's coming out now monkey wrenching yeah i'm throwing wrenching your

  • 58:45

    that makes sense i don't know if that was a great play by drake or by you that's right i don't see what the point was

  • 58:52

    they're glad we don't i'm glad we got it i'm glad i'm glad the point was literally even though we've heard stories now that

  • 58:58

    that wasn't the case but the same thing that happened with the pusha t and drake when allegedly drake had some whole adidas

  • 59:05

    line lined up for his son ready to go and push it throws the monkey ring i'm putting your plans out there whatever's

  • 59:10

    on your big white board i'm throwing it out to your plans up because i know you're a calculated machine over there

  • 59:16

    you work by a certain way so i want to throw a wrench in there and and you up in any way i can and what's going on

  • 59:22

    tell them about when i when i hit you and say wyd you just better have my verse ready

  • 59:28

    i'm writing everything i'm writing everything you need what's wrong who are you talking to i i

  • 59:34

    didn't get that one i don't know he ain't saying that's the boy i think you're saying that to the boy i think i think the boy is just starting

  • 59:41

    to have fun it's getting ready to be this is gonna be fun said that to the boy i think he said it's a boy i yeah

  • 59:47

    i think that you can't talk to me like that you can't talk to me like that what are you talking about i'm gonna be i'm gonna

  • 59:53

    keep it a buckle when i hit you and say wyd you just better have my ass yes

  • 1:00:00

    you need i'm writing everything you need yes sir i got more no yes sir though

  • 1:00:06

    don't yes sir i'm writing everything you know you've been hanging out with donald trump and you started first where's my red hat what are you

  • 1:00:11

    talking about i think drake's coming out with an album way sooner than y'all are saying

  • 1:00:17

    me too i think i think kanye is too when that engineer get back home was he from

  • 1:00:22

    here i got something yeah yo jordan i think what else you want

  • 1:00:37

    and your songs be safe and i know the that's beating come on man and this nigga's beefing with you

  • 1:00:43

    nah i think drake got another album in the tub i don't wanna talk about these no

  • 1:00:49

    more i don't well i should say about um about uh he might have some pressure on him just

  • 1:00:55

    to give something i know he did yeah and y'all saying that he'd been in the studio with his team for the better

  • 1:01:00

    part of a year and a half two years you're not releasing that i agree boy wonder wasn't on the drake out also but

  • 1:01:06

    he was on kanye's out t-minus wasn't even vinyls wasn't either i think vinyls did

  • 1:01:12

    do a co-production of one of them on the direct ship yeah i forgot what's what record but okay

  • 1:01:18

    i mean i don't know yeah i think it's so weird still weird still weird i think they're gonna beef the rest of the fourth quarter i'm not

  • 1:01:25

    mad at it keep it going as a fan i mean as a fan yeah why would i be mad people are tired

  • 1:01:30

    over there i would like to get like some well there hasn't been anything like super amazing no you know why people might be

  • 1:01:36

    tired of it because it's not translating into dope as music oh but see if they have more fun i won't

  • 1:01:42

    care if drake just fuel up the jet and circle around kanye's little quiet house for for 10 hours

  • 1:01:50

    that's funny that's fun for me or just ping his location in wisconsin

  • 1:01:56

    somewhere like that's hilarious just troll a now or send the kids to wisconsin like he did to me

  • 1:02:03

    send them bad ass kids over there just throw some paint on all this little minimalist furniture

  • 1:02:09

    ain't sending them kids man about that that was a great day well they came to

  • 1:02:14

    my house i know and i went to the house all right the guy chased them what does kendrick have to say yeah we caught them

  • 1:02:20

    all you could talk off i told you i said if you tap his

  • 1:02:25

    brakes one time without the car we got him yeah that was

  • 1:02:32

    fun all right what does mr kendrick have to say about all of this several songs that popped up registered that means

  • 1:02:38

    we've seen this before though i feel like who was it they did this with someone else and i don't think any of the songs came out

  • 1:02:45

    somebody's registered not coming out yeah this is just hey i'm here i don't know so somebody just

  • 1:02:52

    registered some names kendrick i tell you this much you better have a fire roll out after the i

  • 1:02:57

    just watched over the last two months drake fam i gotta give drake more credit

  • 1:03:02

    because if that was the album what the you put the stupid ass heart you had all year for

  • 1:03:09

    i'll tell you why she was the out of me you ain't been on instagram lately no oh no they putting hearts in their

  • 1:03:14

    heads now that's why he did it they follow all this stupid i'm seeing a whole bunch of posts of those with hearts in

  • 1:03:20

    their heads i still don't know if the album was hard out i got a heart in the beard but i don't know why this album is called certified lovable you got the

  • 1:03:27

    beijing heart up there

  • 1:03:35

    yeah but i'm just saying i and i still haven't quite figured out why this album is called certified lover boy either no

  • 1:03:41

    idea yeah it tricked me yeah you think you would everything tricked me the album cut like this is all

  • 1:03:47

    it seems enough that well we've talked about enough enough all right enough enough enough enough enough you're right um

  • 1:03:55

    shout out to jake andre 3 000. yeah that's where i stand listen it's only september and i got nas and album

  • 1:04:03

    of the year i got a colon album of the year

  • 1:04:08

    i got yay an album of the year and there's some more i'm forgetting because i don't

  • 1:04:13

    remember everything that came out but i had somebody else in there i was keeping the time here

  • 1:04:19

    tyler yeah this is heating up i told you that when tyler drives and

  • 1:04:25

    then kendrick's got to be in there somewhere when he drops drops it when he drops and if he drops last

  • 1:04:32

    the awards would be fresher for him well he can't get the awards not the grammys we passed it well he would have

  • 1:04:38

    to drop like now the deadline i think no the deadline passed i think in september no they will move the deadline they'll

  • 1:04:44

    move to the deadline for kendrick who thinks the chain's rule for chance i would move the deadline for kendrick

  • 1:04:49

    what's it kendra calling up yo i'm dropping next week my album is in this year they're going to say i'm going

  • 1:04:55

    to see they're going to say i'm going to go run it to the board but i'm pretty sure i can get you a win i'll text you in an hour and let you know if that's

  • 1:05:01

    performing right you perform it right as long as macklemore don't have a name come

  • 1:05:16

    you don't care that people are great guys that has nothing to do with album of the year over good kid man city bro i

  • 1:05:21

    don't care how great of a guy you are has nothing to do with that that is probably one of the greatest albums ever it really does it really

  • 1:05:28

    does have a lot to do with being a good guy though i know you don't want to hear it because you think it's music based but that's

  • 1:05:34

    your

  • 1:05:41

    i don't mean you're a great guy that's all i mean you being a great guy it's not your relationships do you think the fans picked their number one video on

  • 1:05:47

    one of them i know you're lying no i don't blame the fans i know all your raps you can't hit me

  • 1:05:52

    with that yeah you said you you don't think that

  • 1:05:58

    my being a great guy has anything to do with relationships muffins

  • 1:06:08

    if i got the right people in my quarter that doesn't necessarily mean i'm a great guy that's what i'm saying oh oh

  • 1:06:13

    yeah marvel that's all your team might be good yeah my team can be great and and have the right people when they are so we're

  • 1:06:19

    clear macklemore's team at the time great great yeah great guys yeah they're great guys great guys

  • 1:06:24

    i mean that to be like that don't mean him being a great guy or not a great guy is not what got that

  • 1:06:32

    award i know i just feel bad because he's such a great guy i'm sure he didn't ask them

  • 1:06:37

    right give it to me that's where he's up and then everybody on him and he came out and said yo i probably think you're deserved

  • 1:06:59

    and where is ray swimmer and sway leo that's what i'm pissed off about we had a whole pandemic here we back outside

  • 1:07:06

    and i got no ray swimmers but that's i apologize because that's my fault fans parks i know you're a big swimmer fan

  • 1:07:13

    say mom i'm sorry cause i did that we ain't heard from him since he put that little two-pack ass out

  • 1:07:21

    he put that little two pack out tried to heat the streets up in the spring we was like no you know what i'm gonna tell you they

  • 1:07:28

    dropped the record with french they're unforgettable and then he was like y'all you going all the way back down i got 40

  • 1:07:33

    more of those oh yeah and then they stole his nighttime

  • 1:07:39

    i think it is like

  • 1:07:47

    your laptop is important yo yo i don't know why they had all of you

  • 1:07:53

    important they never realized that they make cool bags too like you can like do it for a while

  • 1:07:58

    all the designers got it back you could put your laptop in it actually you could just keep all the things in a drive in your bag which is very small

  • 1:08:05

    royce loves his back his uh bag with his laptop and everything and that was on tour one time like all the new music

  • 1:08:11

    for like bar exam or something that was anticipated he just screamed on kino the whole time

  • 1:08:16

    kino you better find that book back it's nice to have a manager you can just black on yo go get my

  • 1:08:22

    i think they found it though yeah people got to stop doing that somebody else lost their laptop had to pay to get it back uh

  • 1:08:27

    right leslie yeah yeah yeah yeah and you know he had the phone no it was on there yeah the thousand yeah whatever yeah

  • 1:08:34

    everybody foul his rico loves you know he's written some for everybody

  • 1:08:39

    um where are we going just now i don't think i'm not i don't know following you

  • 1:08:46

    man we'll just follow you for a little bit you have fun out with us on friday it's regular normal

  • 1:08:53

    it's the same all the time no it was joe's birthday night maybe yeah my birthday labor day weekend nothing was

  • 1:08:59

    different no no i'm talking about the the the scenery um you want different scenery

  • 1:09:05

    you should would you expect melancholy to look different all jokes aside you do kind of want different scenery

  • 1:09:11

    you know what i'm saying like yo i'm gonna catch him once you know everybody

  • 1:09:21

    [Music] yo every wednesday it ain't the same

  • 1:09:27

    it's close to the same every friday same lineup for the most part every saturday same

  • 1:09:33

    lineup for the most part that's why when you go to different spots it changes the scenery i got a new reality show coming

  • 1:09:41

    it's called try to get a drink from the bartender you win

  • 1:09:57

    okay no she had a leg up on the bar it's one sign she didn't want to work

  • 1:10:03

    then she had a band-aid on ass one of the little circular band-aids another sign you shouldn't have been at

  • 1:10:09

    work then your hair was a mess and now i'm feeling gay for recognizing

  • 1:10:15

    these things because i shouldn't recognize these things i should just be happy but your

  • 1:10:21

    hair is a girl

  • 1:10:26

    girl it was i mean so and then she's on the phone the whole time

  • 1:10:34

    multiple of them on the phone all the time so it was a little gang of them face timing dudes and then they'd be doing twitter instagram they're doing

  • 1:10:41

    all you still guys thirsty as hell is thirsty he is so parched in there i'm just staring at him laughing right and

  • 1:10:47

    then i noticed she already got three broken nails two broken nails this

  • 1:10:53

    shouldn't mean anything right it means something that meant a lot to me it means a lot that meant a lot to me am i

  • 1:10:58

    boozy now no that's not that should mean something right something but why i didn't mean none of her

  • 1:11:04

    because i'm gonna tell you why because it's labor day weekend i was just getting ready to say that and also paint the scene because like a certain bar

  • 1:11:10

    that might be cool like a more of a dive bar or neighborhood bar you're not really looking for you have work

  • 1:11:15

    no but she wasn't just going to she's the bartender she's a bartender and that might be him

  • 1:11:22

    you are at the premier strip club in new york city

  • 1:11:27

    or one of them in new jersey just anywhere you had a strip club where you expected it to break bread like and you

  • 1:11:32

    want people your job yeah you mm-hmm and you got two broke nails a bad dude

  • 1:11:39

    and you're not paying attention to see now it's funny i i i complain when i when i ask dollars right and i'll

  • 1:11:45

    move off of this because a lot of y'all may not you don't give a about strippers strip club you can say i only witness

  • 1:11:51

    yes yeah pretty much that's what happened um

  • 1:11:57

    dan was about to say oh both sides of the spectrum two broke nails i'm like ugh like i can't pay you

  • 1:12:03

    you ain't putting no pride into yourself showing up for work i ain't bout to go get single you sitting there looking like you got an attitude you only said

  • 1:12:09

    hello to nobody y'all skipped just the basic courtesy course so cool i can't pay you

  • 1:12:14

    install it sometimes i'll i'll complain because they have a mandate

  • 1:12:20

    they don't even let you on the floor without makeup hair nails outfits you

  • 1:12:26

    get you got to get right to even bartend over here so sometimes you'll be there and you'll be like oh look at that face

  • 1:12:31

    all cake though dude i want to see something natural but no not happening there no

  • 1:12:37

    no yeah i ain't playing i felt boujee i don't i don't take it as boujee though

  • 1:12:42

    like i mean come on if i'm here to spend some money and then you're spending the kind of money this is my thing i don't care about your

  • 1:12:48

    hair i don't care about your nails but if you got hair and bad nails you supposed to have

  • 1:12:55

    the best customer service on the planet i care about your bar etiquette yeah yeah it is your responsibility to make sure i have a cool time at this bar yo i

  • 1:13:03

    spilled something at the bar cause i'm clumsy she missed it i'm sitting there grabbing napkins from behind the bar cleaning it myself

  • 1:13:09

    all right i'm like wait what me and a couple of the homies was trying to just we're gonna take a shot together right

  • 1:13:14

    so yo let me get around the shots we waving right yeah wave over there that bartender then

  • 1:13:20

    maybe that shouldn't happen yeah not at all especially in the bars be little as right you get them saying it's not

  • 1:13:25

    some long ass bar in new jersey you got money in new jersey none of the bars are little hey deeper than that

  • 1:13:33

    yes people are all right and blessed deeper than that

  • 1:13:38

    ish is 40 whatever and i'm 41 and united spring chicken neither is parks right

  • 1:13:44

    but me and ish for sure know the lineage of bartenders yeah we know from 2001

  • 1:13:52

    to now we know when you're doing good in the when you might not be doing good you that be trying to get

  • 1:13:58

    us yeah like i wish i could tell y'all about that they don't know though i wanna tell

  • 1:14:04

    them about me you know no they don't know they don't know i can't do they don't know they don't even know that like they

  • 1:14:11

    brand new half of them they are so again even what you're speaking on that's that is even it doesn't

  • 1:14:16

    exist to them i went to three strip clubs this weekend i saw a lot of women had the jewelry on this weekend

  • 1:14:22

    a lot of jewelry on it no no like drug dealer jury

  • 1:14:28

    they are the female version of drug dealers but wait then i said and

  • 1:14:33

    and i'm there as a customer that wants to spend then i said i can't pay you

  • 1:14:39

    you're not more than me yo not you got more than me i understand how the circulation of money works in a strip

  • 1:14:45

    club and you doing that i'ma go give my card to get the money to

  • 1:14:52

    give it back to that for you to show up with the the big rapper chain on rap

  • 1:15:00

    you look like you got more money than every customer at your bar how could somebody pay 60 thousand dollar

  • 1:15:07

    cartier's fam yeah and some of them invisible set cartier's are 75 80 grand

  • 1:15:13

    i'm looking at you now you got your jewelry on and all i can hear is my accountant's voice in my head telling me

  • 1:15:19

    to put all my money to the 80 year old trust to my life and whatever that is where and i'm like yo this is

  • 1:15:25

    not going to know 80. don't start i ain't all right thank you

  • 1:15:32

    but i'm saying look at what got to happen for you to want to live i got to push the money back till i'm 90.

  • 1:15:38

    yeah he's saying like he thought of some jeans oh watch this move when you're 85.

  • 1:15:45

    roscoe last thing i'm worried about 85 is that

  • 1:15:51

    7 million over there i love my i love them i love those guys all right

  • 1:15:56

    ah now they're getting it and they're showing that they're getting it now they're getting yeah all right put it off long enough i

  • 1:16:03

    even came in here did a second drink deep down drake deep dive we stayed on the three stacks verse

  • 1:16:10

    no appropriately appropriately long because that was that type of verse but man yesterday was real two days ago was

  • 1:16:17

    really really really tough and yesterday was tough it's all been really tough

  • 1:16:23

    these podcasts for me are some of the more difficult ones to do because i'd be wanting to grieve

  • 1:16:30

    just to myself right like you'd be wanting that to be sacred

  • 1:16:35

    everything shouldn't be just for a public showing right and when you're really grieving and going through it you can't even pick up your phone because

  • 1:16:42

    everybody is posting the picture or the video of the person that you love that you lost

  • 1:16:48

    uh for those of you just joining us we're talking about michael k williams uh father

  • 1:16:54

    brother actor activist dancer poet genius genius

  • 1:17:04

    and that's just the thing man i'll tell a story that has nothing to do with nothing

  • 1:17:10

    um and i'm trying to make it come full circle somehow right actually i'll turn this back on

  • 1:17:17

    it's not one of them type of stories it's not that important um my mom tells me a story about when i was

  • 1:17:23

    really really young maybe second grade or some and she was around my dad's mom down

  • 1:17:30

    south sumter south carolina she's wrong my grandma rest in peace uh to grandma jimmy right

  • 1:17:36

    and i just got a really good report card smoked that she went to my grandma

  • 1:17:41

    ranting and raving just really ecstatic and excited that i had a really good report card and she said my grandma got

  • 1:17:49

    real down and almost this saddened look on her face and my mom couldn't understand why so

  • 1:17:55

    she asked her and my grandma without trying to quote her because i don't remember said

  • 1:18:00

    something to the effect of he's pretty bright

  • 1:18:06

    all of my sons were really really really really bright and they all excelled in school

  • 1:18:13

    and it got bad later that sign of genius to my grandma and not genius but

  • 1:18:21

    that sign of intelligence that early struck fear

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    in her because of what she went through with my dad and my uncles and i think later on my mom grew to

  • 1:18:34

    understand her point there and as i continued to live life

  • 1:18:39

    i understand it as well in me understanding it it gives uh

  • 1:18:46

    you live with like this paranoia this this ptsd this

  • 1:18:54

    like again my ice when you send me the old chris brown project uh x-files the ep i was real worried about

  • 1:19:00

    him i was worried i came here i talked about it uh big sean when i started to hear

  • 1:19:05

    certain things that he was saying i got really worried about him the person

  • 1:19:10

    uh i carry that with the musicians even drake on this on the intro again yet

  • 1:19:16

    another intro he's saying i'm hurt i'm alone i'm um i have despair i'm dark inside he's saying it

  • 1:19:22

    artists say it all the time just seeing somebody and we miss it

  • 1:19:27

    so because it is right and where i'm going with this is michael k williams

  • 1:19:33

    was nothing short of genius and i don't say that because he killed

  • 1:19:40

    the omar little roll and he killed the other i don't i don't say this because of that i watched the wire late

  • 1:19:46

    say i didn't watch the wiring when it was out when did the wire come out

  • 1:19:53

    yeah we looked that up yeah we deep dived on that one last week that was the first season

  • 1:19:58

    yeah so my introduction to mike wasn't the same as wasn't the same as

  • 1:20:05

    the rest of the world because i missed all of this but i heard y'all sing his praises

  • 1:20:11

    and when i finally caught up i understood but i still don't think i had met him when i watched

  • 1:20:17

    the wire i hadn't met him yet how did i meet mike

  • 1:20:23

    how did i meet mike how did i meet mike back to the

  • 1:20:30

    monopoly gods how did i meet mike

  • 1:20:37

    that's how i met mike reverend ron let me tell you my let me tell you how i

  • 1:20:42

    learned that michael k williams was a genius let's start there and i'm just going to talk y'all could jump in

  • 1:20:48

    at any point uh i'll probably need y'all to help carry me through this

  • 1:20:53

    i probably need y'all the fans as well to help carry me through this um

  • 1:21:02

    this is around i was i don't know all those pills i was a lot of pills

  • 1:21:09

    dark dark time dark time those pills like altoid case full

  • 1:21:14

    of pills and when i say pills i mean all of 30 40 50. i copped in bulk

  • 1:21:22

    all different types too all different types all different times and i needed i needed i needed those i

  • 1:21:30

    thought when i when i finally got off my body went through these withdrawals that i did sweats

  • 1:21:36

    hard to go to sleep it was tough right and i'm saying i'm highlighting that this is before the fentanyl takeover

  • 1:21:44

    i'm highlighting that because boy do i thank god that i was able to do something about it

  • 1:21:50

    before the fentanyl takeover for real because today i can't imagine how dangerous and scary

  • 1:21:58

    it is and we just keep hearing it and seeing it and if you're in this business

  • 1:22:04

    you probably keep seeing it to happen to people that we're really really really fond of i was up in 09 somewhere

  • 1:22:10

    back there um and my mom was going to church

  • 1:22:16

    and she did what any mom would try to do instead come to church

  • 1:22:21

    and i ain't really want to come to church but the pastor uh

  • 1:22:26

    new jersey legend reverend ron rest in peace he wasn't the typical pastor no you know

  • 1:22:33

    nowhere near no oh yeah y'all know yeah yeah

  • 1:22:38

    ron wasn't your typical pastor uh and as you heard on the intro that was him

  • 1:22:43

    he kind of spoke for the message and not the messenger

  • 1:22:49

    he spoke for he spoke to the church accepting all sinners

  • 1:22:55

    and when he spoke like that he made me feel right at home it wasn't the typical gospel biblical

  • 1:23:01

    he was really talking and he himself had been has outside his own issues and he would

  • 1:23:08

    tell you now he'll tell you in a heartbeat last time i saw him somebody i forgot somebody walked behind

  • 1:23:14

    him like that he didn't really know he's like yo bro bro i don't really like other men walking

  • 1:23:19

    behind me though nick said y'all been locked up too much my state numbers [Music]

  • 1:23:25

    so everybody started laughing dude walking behind him again he was like yo bruh

  • 1:23:31

    i'm serious like i ain't playing i don't really like when walk behind me

  • 1:23:36

    like i i'm institutionalized when people walk behind you you you know you've been in jail you'll be getting tensed up he's

  • 1:23:43

    like bro i don't don't do that no more please just the preacher dogs

  • 1:23:48

    like yo dawg don't walk behind me like i don't know you don't walk i ain't with that so yeah he'll let you

  • 1:23:54

    know what his path was or his walk of life was and because of that approach and because of that style

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    he attracted an audience that was unlike one i have ever seen in church

  • 1:24:07

    it was dudes in there that looked like me yeah it was people that i found out like in the hood that was going up there

  • 1:24:12

    to the church no i know

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    and we laughed before when i talked about uh the other church hill song when everybody's cracking jokes it's kind of

  • 1:24:29

    like that but in a white mixed version like reverend ron's was hood

  • 1:24:35

    like the hood again like hustlers hustlers would be like yo

  • 1:24:41

    i ain't coming in rev but whole lot i like what you're doing like whole lot i like what you're doing you

  • 1:24:46

    know what i'm saying like that so again we in the black community we doubters

  • 1:24:51

    right like we we full of doubters like when you start winning over the jokers

  • 1:24:56

    the downtrodden or the that's on the other side that that speaks volumes you know what i'm saying like again

  • 1:25:02

    because we're so untrusting yeah if that's a word that's a word um

  • 1:25:09

    it takes a lot to get through to us you know what i mean like you you got to really jump over barbed wire gates to

  • 1:25:15

    get the to us because our neighborhoods are so up and we we look at everybody like you up to something

  • 1:25:21

    right so when you could get hustlers you could get to the street you could get to the that's scamming

  • 1:25:27

    themselves you're doing something so rest in peace damn he yeah he was

  • 1:25:32

    kind of fly he was a fly dude i went to that church well no my mom went to that church and

  • 1:25:40

    she fell in love with ron not romantically of course right you're not idiots out there i don't know

  • 1:25:45

    um she fell in love with him so much that she tried to spread that word to anybody with ears in new jersey yo

  • 1:25:54

    church or sunday that was like the brunch it's like the hospital yeah like it really was was like yo eight what

  • 1:26:00

    session we at eight yeah nine we have 11 30. like it was one of those

  • 1:26:06

    and my mom is like a helper like she can't help you she can't help you so she's sitting there listening to rev and

  • 1:26:12

    ron every sunday and i'm sitting there listening when i would show up

  • 1:26:17

    and i guess somehow it dawns on my mom well if he's doing all this helping to people and i'm listening to him

  • 1:26:23

    well who's helping him valid question mm-hmm great question

  • 1:26:28

    so of course they organize and i see michael k williams at the church but that don't tell me

  • 1:26:34

    nothing oh it's the wired wire dude right omar so

  • 1:26:40

    cool yeah super cool dude super cool dude and he had this scar in his face

  • 1:26:48

    and i'm a fan of scars i think that they stories age experience come from this

  • 1:26:57

    like i'm when somebody has a scar and a face i'm i'm glued like i may be steered at

  • 1:27:03

    pictures of mano a long time just from a scar just imagining what that was like

  • 1:27:08

    in jail or what you went through same with michael k williams he got the scar so you fixated on it

  • 1:27:15

    but yeah ask where it comes from no like that and you see this scar and as you're looking at this scar

  • 1:27:22

    you're seeing like this beautiful beautiful beautiful black skin

  • 1:27:27

    like this man's skin was blue you had to stare

  • 1:27:32

    i'm bringing it up because typically you look at people's eyes and they skin

  • 1:27:38

    when you see them you kind of get it they wait

  • 1:27:43

    no matter what struggles he may or may not have been going through his skin always looked beautiful

  • 1:27:49

    maybe his eyes was piercing but his voice and his words and the thing he said things he said so i just kept seeing

  • 1:27:56

    michael k williams at church and then the reverence going through things and now some type of way through the grace

  • 1:28:01

    of god we end up having now we have after meetings at church

  • 1:28:06

    we have after meetings at church now and maybe i shouldn't even talk about the after meetings because that's how private they was

  • 1:28:13

    but it was a select chosen few of us

  • 1:28:19

    that was dying

  • 1:28:27

    yeah we was up and we shared in there that

  • 1:28:32

    we probably don't nowhere man the reverend is talking you just stood

  • 1:28:37

    in the church you just stood to church and heard the reverend save hundreds of people

  • 1:28:45

    and then you go in this office and lock the door after your clothes and start getting their demons out

  • 1:28:52

    and ron did it and i did it mike did it my mom did it

  • 1:28:58

    it's maybe seven other people there and then that's what was happening i'm

  • 1:29:03

    sitting there and i'm like oh this guy goes

  • 1:29:08

    through he's going through oh oh no this is we understand each

  • 1:29:14

    other on a deeper level this ain't just he acting and

  • 1:29:20

    this guy is going through some i fell in love

  • 1:29:25

    because you relate to struggle like if your struggle can identify with

  • 1:29:30

    somebody else's struggle and you see how they're coping with it and you see how they body and out

  • 1:29:36

    this guy he was killing but he was in pain and i seem to have this

  • 1:29:42

    ability to be able to spot that guy in a crowd

  • 1:29:47

    it's heavy fell in love with mike in the meetings

  • 1:29:53

    man and i watched them closely from there and it wasn't no wire so i'm and i'm a

  • 1:30:00

    still so at some point you say i wonder how is getting money i mean you bump into the mic in the church

  • 1:30:07

    one more hey mike what's going on yo i'm heading over to egypt or wherever

  • 1:30:14

    the he was going he's traveling he was active no he was doing mad he said i'm

  • 1:30:19

    going over there third world country that they need us but they're suffering and the story needs to be told and nobody's doing it it's kind

  • 1:30:25

    of like what anthony bourdain is doing but i just want to travel there's nobody we have to get to these people like he was passionate

  • 1:30:31

    about traveling out the country for weeks at a time

  • 1:30:37

    he's saying that to somebody that hates touring i was blown away by that

  • 1:30:43

    it never left me when i left him i said hmm that's interesting to know

  • 1:30:48

    interesting to know that he's that passionate about hmm all right cool ain't paying no money right

  • 1:30:55

    then he was doing some with vice and the first thing he did

  • 1:31:03

    was go to the chop shops in newark and he was telling me about it and they said mike you're taking these

  • 1:31:09

    cameras to the chop shops in newark to do like this underground like you're doing some underground tape

  • 1:31:14

    and in my head only i'm saying how does he

  • 1:31:21

    even know the people to maneuver in newark underground chop shop land

  • 1:31:28

    you gotta it might pop off from the hood you need your i'm telling you i learned i had to learn from the hood i had to

  • 1:31:34

    learn see i'm calling him a genius because it was so many different areas where i learned

  • 1:31:41

    oh he's been around he's picked it up from places i didn't know

  • 1:31:46

    so he's telling me i'm running around these places it turned up in one of these spots they can put him down

  • 1:31:51

    and my man over here and i'm listening i'm saying also you

  • 1:31:56

    so you did that too you've been out okay cool i'll put it to the side i put inside him

  • 1:32:01

    i'm i'll put it to the side and keep coming to church i go to church eric garner

  • 1:32:07

    bad that was bad church more packed than there's ever been and rev ron got up there and said

  • 1:32:14

    i'm gonna invite somebody up here to speak and he gave a beautiful introduction and

  • 1:32:20

    it was michael k williams who's a member of this church so but in my head i'm saying

  • 1:32:26

    i don't like that don't bring the celebrity to the pulpit

  • 1:32:32

    to talk because he's a celebrity that's disgusting stupid me and realize the real reason

  • 1:32:38

    why what a foolish mistake

  • 1:32:43

    boy did he go up there and talk from the soul mike not pastor

  • 1:32:50

    that's mike not surprised at all he went up there and just spoke to

  • 1:32:55

    hardship and struggle and pain and despair and desperation

  • 1:33:02

    and but being sad and getting through it and light at the tunnel and it gave a beautiful beautiful eric honest my um

  • 1:33:09

    sister was theirs his family was there and mike bodied this speech at a church

  • 1:33:17

    the most packed church i've ever been to after like a national house you remember when eric arne passed up here yeah yeah

  • 1:33:23

    it was like you remember no it was different and he did it

  • 1:33:29

    i couldn't have done it i was too busy crying and he left the stage and i

  • 1:33:34

    said okay he killed that it's another side this is different you didn't expect yeah this is

  • 1:33:42

    this is something else and then when i thought maybe it was only the wire that he was great and then

  • 1:33:48

    he just kept popping up in every movie i love nada y'all gonna talk about all the big roles

  • 1:33:53

    and i'm gonna say every bnc movie i put on it he was in yeah he smoked he ate

  • 1:33:59

    food he ate on law and order yeah now we talk i think we've talked on this podcast about how tv kind of overtook

  • 1:34:06

    film is like the leading visual yeah uh medium in the past 10 15 years it wasn't that before it was

  • 1:34:13

    movies and tv it was kind of some it was movies but with the emergence of netflix and all those netflix but hbo as well no no you're

  • 1:34:20

    becoming digital especially you just said that um but he was there for a lot of it but you

  • 1:34:25

    know i mean bulldog empire he was a monster in that show that had a good crap new the uh ava duvernay

  • 1:34:32

    documentary like yo he got busy he seemed to just pop up in all of them

  • 1:34:38

    no and he always was dressed great i know that means nothing

  • 1:34:45

    but for me i pay attention to stuff like this it means something to me i mean sound to him probably

  • 1:34:51

    you can't get away from the fact that you super duper duper dark skin right so

  • 1:34:56

    it's a stigma on it in society then you have a scar literally coming down your whole face

  • 1:35:04

    so you're gonna get pre-judged as a of the worst kind probably right

  • 1:35:09

    so now i'm gonna stay fly i'm gonna stay sharp because then that'll dispel some of the myth or some of the the prejudice

  • 1:35:16

    that i may get you get what i'm saying so again for us it ain't nothing but for him that might have been one of his

  • 1:35:22

    things you know what i mean like think about it like on a date i'm a super duper dark skinned and

  • 1:35:28

    i got a scar on my face and then i'm from the hood and they don't know that i could quote shakespeare like fam he was

  • 1:35:35

    in some shakespearean like they don't know i could quote shakespeare so i'm gonna stay super duper fly i'ma stay

  • 1:35:40

    wearing the european so you stupid don't have to pre-judge me i can't be out here with the black

  • 1:35:45

    hoodie on or i might get trayvon i'm gonna tell you i've only met dude once and that was

  • 1:35:50

    when you moved into your current place that same day he had came over

  • 1:35:57

    that was the first thing i said to myself i'm like damn this dude's dressed flying looking him smelling gray

  • 1:36:02

    i'm not i thought him just because i knew his background so i'm like he's a hood yeah yeah

  • 1:36:08

    exact opposite when he walked in the crib i was like but ann would tell you the cologne and where you got the clothes from no

  • 1:36:14

    he will tell you yeah man go over here even when i was looking for a place i remember he was telling me he was like yo you need to come over here to the

  • 1:36:20

    brook brook where he said right here

  • 1:36:27

    can i come to brooklyn can i move to brooklyn yeah yeah yeah and they got some yeah

  • 1:36:32

    you can this bill i'm telling he was i was sitting here telling the building y'all know you got to come right here this area

  • 1:36:38

    this is the shock that's the first time you met him like as someone who moved to new york later in life 2007 i think i moved here and i

  • 1:36:45

    probably didn't watch the wire until 2007 2008 but then when i started being on the scene playing little shows at dive bars across new york

  • 1:36:52

    it would be oh there's there's we bae oh there's matt what do i forget what max uh character

  • 1:36:57

    was oh mike that's that's omar yeah like you would see him out well that's the other part wait if you

  • 1:37:05

    just happen to be taking a stroll shopping you bump into mike no i used to get his

  • 1:37:10

    haircut with me so i've the barbershop the club chopped up like he was

  • 1:37:16

    he was out he was out he was out so you started to wonder like damn how could and i love the outpouring of love that i

  • 1:37:23

    mean i didn't like it on the day that i learned he passed because boy that was painful to watch watch all of these

  • 1:37:29

    pictures it's painful and it's a joy though because i feel joy in knowing that y'all

  • 1:37:36

    were just as touched by this person as i was like he

  • 1:37:42

    his whole life was just spent in service of and boy is it eerie to me that he did

  • 1:37:48

    the dmx tribute and smoked it yeah yeah he smoked it because before he smoked it

  • 1:37:54

    he kind of gave me x vibes a little bit

  • 1:38:00

    fam you know it's airy this the third person we talked about or third thing we've talked about

  • 1:38:07

    and then shortly thereafter they passed away and people and the fans is like yo y'all just talked about the wire in depth last

  • 1:38:14

    week well in our defense we talk about greatness a lot we do no no i'm just saying we do so that you know what i

  • 1:38:20

    mean like that we celebrate greatness here so like yo now what was eerie

  • 1:38:25

    to me and i mean i i don't want to say eerie because i think we all when when there's a big loss like this a

  • 1:38:32

    lot of people tend to look at their own mortality that post that he put up about kobe yeah yeah

  • 1:38:39

    that one like oh i said saying about once

  • 1:38:44

    uh we lost kobe is when he looked at his mortality realized how precious life is he's like yo just

  • 1:38:51

    take a take in a sunset and you'll see how that lasts 30 seconds how fast it goes and that might be your last sunset

  • 1:38:58

    like it was just so much in there i've been thinking about my own mortality lately i don't know if it's the recent

  • 1:39:04

    death of my first love and first heartbreak or watching my hero my rock my mom get older every day knowing that

  • 1:39:10

    at 93 her time won't be as long as it's been maybe all maybe all of the above

  • 1:39:17

    it all has me wondering how will i go will i die alone

  • 1:39:22

    how will i be remembered and what will my leg what will be my legacy i may not have known every nook and

  • 1:39:28

    cranny of colby's career but the two things i did learn from watching him is that we are not what we do for living

  • 1:39:34

    and that focus hard work and dedication are the seeds of success most importantly his untimely passing

  • 1:39:40

    has reminded me of how fragile life is i believe i read some i believe i read

  • 1:39:46

    somewhere in a chinese proverb whenever you have the chance to watch the sunset take it

  • 1:39:51

    it might be your last i do this because it reminds me how fast time goes

  • 1:39:57

    if you don't believe me just watch the last 60 seconds of one i'm tired of wasting time worrying about

  • 1:40:03

    what people think of me self-doubt and fear i'd rather trade all that in for purpose

  • 1:40:09

    purpose-driven life because we're uh because from where i sat in the bleachers that's exactly what it looked like he

  • 1:40:16

    had kobe yeah and his last and his last post

  • 1:40:23

    period yeah tracy morgan tracy morgan

  • 1:40:29

    i understand why people say that that's eerie but i think those thoughts are common

  • 1:40:34

    for people that come from that path

  • 1:40:39

    like it's dark it's dark you think about that a lot anytime i ever try to have the conversation people stop me but

  • 1:40:46

    i often wonder what people's thoughts are when they in their last moments

  • 1:40:52

    is important because how you live is how you go yeah but listen back to mike

  • 1:40:58

    back to the genius of mike i around one day happen to just go to the robber tree hotel in newark they

  • 1:41:05

    was doing a fashion show views from jersey city you know when they do the fashion show in newark you guys slide through throw something on

  • 1:41:12

    slot slid through through some more there's a few of them in there i sat down had a little pineapple juice was doing

  • 1:41:18

    my thug fizzle in there huh and who comes strolling out the catwalk

  • 1:41:23

    you guessed it michael k williams wait a minute man you in a fashion

  • 1:41:30

    it's like yeah

  • 1:41:38

    it was like oh you great here too and then you bump into him maybe at a

  • 1:41:43

    party and you just see he was a dancer right he used to get

  • 1:41:49

    busy dancer choreographer dancer dancer you could tell somebody a young lady you know young

  • 1:41:55

    ladies young lady one time i was in melody i was trying to learn i didn't know how to dance she was a dancer i think she did

  • 1:42:01

    the bylaw video too she did do by the way video and she was trying to teach me how to dance

  • 1:42:06

    and i said listen i have no rhythm i have two left feet this ain't gonna work

  • 1:42:12

    and she said to me the key to dancing joe

  • 1:42:18

    is to not think all you got to do is let your body

  • 1:42:25

    free flow and feel and use no brain power and i promise you you could dance

  • 1:42:30

    that never left me because i can never do it but then when i watch mike dance

  • 1:42:36

    and when i watch all of y'all post these videos of mike dancing

  • 1:42:41

    and when i kind of know about some of the struggles in the darkness i understand the smile and i understand

  • 1:42:48

    this movement and i understand the freedom and i understand the interviews where he's saying yo don't ask me how i

  • 1:42:54

    prepared for this role you wouldn't get it that's none of your business

  • 1:43:02

    a lot in my career i was blown away at how i could get in a booth and share

  • 1:43:07

    some of my darkest with the universe but no you better not talk to me about it in person

  • 1:43:14

    like that always kind of bothered me a little bit like how can i that's weird like how can i do but watching mike

  • 1:43:20

    dance look at this man dance

  • 1:43:26

    it's just back to what does music do for you what does

  • 1:43:32

    culture or the elements of it do for you and then i around and went to l.a

  • 1:43:39

    on a threesome mission i had it lying

  • 1:43:46

    she shorty was there with her manager who was fine you couldn't tell me i wasn't about to

  • 1:43:52

    kill they were super fine it was 11 a.m and then i said hey baby let's hit

  • 1:43:57

    the roof bathing suits on ordering food sandwiches yo

  • 1:44:03

    shorty she ordered her chicken wrap i knew i was about to

  • 1:44:10

    when they ordered a little wrap that mean they want some nutrients want some nutrients before the dick

  • 1:44:16

    so they want some health right so she ordered a chicken wrap

  • 1:44:22

    and i think it's on so i got my bold speaker with me like a you know i traveled with it thinking i was a little

  • 1:44:27

    horny ass sit down put your bold speaker to the pool they playing music and you playing music

  • 1:44:32

    you're battling but i did it i brought my bold speaker and i was in the middle of the greatest

  • 1:44:38

    r b set in the world and i heard that i was facing the skyline in l.a feet up

  • 1:44:45

    with two beautiful women i heard the door slammed behind me boom i turned around

  • 1:44:51

    it's mike it's michael k williams

  • 1:44:56

    he's with beautiful women and beautiful men so he brought the whole party

  • 1:45:02

    he shut me down i had to pull to myself up there at 11 a.m but now he brought

  • 1:45:09

    the and the women and he was dressed to that had some flies out on the dirty tank top

  • 1:45:15

    up there and he said hey joe he gave me the l.a joe i was like hey mike i was trying to keep

  • 1:45:22

    it easy he seemed like he was with his work people preparing for a role and he was introducing me to them

  • 1:45:28

    he was introducing me to his work actor fam did you get the threesome

  • 1:45:35

    yo why you can't relax your hormones it's

  • 1:45:40

    not even about that that was just like a little exercise no i didn't get the threesome

  • 1:45:46

    michael k williams so michael k williams came but let me give it to you long story longer

  • 1:45:52

    i'm in the middle of the greatest r b set ever it might have been brian mcknight up there i'm getting this sauce then all right y'all see where you going

  • 1:45:58

    what are we taking the culture with this all right whatever and mike was talking to he introduced me to a couple of like big wigs from the movies i'm like

  • 1:46:04

    i don't care but it's me yeah it was good it's cool it's cool right and then he said after he introduced me say

  • 1:46:10

    hey dog i'm not sure is that your speaker

  • 1:46:17

    i'm telling the story because i'm black and yes it's my speaker and i'm getting the threesome popping mike

  • 1:46:24

    yes and he said can i see it for a second and i looked over at my

  • 1:46:30

    area they wasn't vibing like he had it lit so you know what here man

  • 1:46:36

    i gave it to him i gave my speaker i know that sounds like nothing to y'all but i loved him enough

  • 1:46:42

    to say you know what i'll them later and i gave him the speaker

  • 1:46:48

    and he put his phone out and he had the dj app on his phone on his phone

  • 1:46:54

    and he started scratching i'm not lying i know i lie a lot

  • 1:47:02

    so now we on the rooftop of my low hotel that you're not even going to be at

  • 1:47:07

    now my chicks jamming to your you over there in a cabana on the phone to my chicken

  • 1:47:16

    yo he killing better than i do on this thing and i looked and i said what they be

  • 1:47:21

    saying to me and say yo man what's that app you're using he said it's a little something called dj just look at my

  • 1:47:28

    it's like i use that too man don't use it like that i don't use it but i said to myself

  • 1:47:35

    of course like okay he would have been a great man so then he stood up

  • 1:47:41

    all this party was laughing and he scratched in something he said he said okay am i doing i ain't doing this

  • 1:47:48

    right cause i can't scratch hey yeah hey he said he did something like this

  • 1:47:53

    one of them shits and he said he did this this is on a pool party i

  • 1:47:59

    mean it's had a pool rooftop he played this you don't look the artist

  • 1:48:05

    wait a minute yo yo who what was that yo it's like my man but

  • 1:48:11

    it's gone dawg are you a musician this he's scratching he got show app he took your

  • 1:48:17

    girls this is his job and now you're playing some and your dusty ass is like

  • 1:48:22

    what's that tune you ain't had a shazam on you no there why ain't what no

  • 1:48:28

    what not he said yeah this is my man this is

  • 1:48:34

    jordan bain i it up gordon bass he'd be correcting me all the time he's going back to new jersey and then he got

  • 1:48:39

    up and he started dancing at the pool party man cut this off i get mad

  • 1:48:46

    and he started doing all these moves that i couldn't do with my body

  • 1:48:51

    and i'm like yo he can do this too all right so he it's a great actor he's a great activist he's passionate about

  • 1:48:58

    this he's in the hip hop he knows rappers we all love him he writes poems you know choreographed some

  • 1:49:04

    and now you're a dj too and a dancer like what can't this man do

  • 1:49:11

    is how i felt about michael k williams i felt so in love with him that it was

  • 1:49:18

    so selfish it's selfish of us it's selfish of us while i'm going through it

  • 1:49:25

    i always wanted to see him because he made me feel better

  • 1:49:30

    that's what he did to everybody and i'm seeing that in y'all pictures y'all posting the directors ava duvernay loved what

  • 1:49:36

    you said quest love you always say the right man you pissed me off but you just always do it right all the

  • 1:49:42

    love that y'all show and i'm like oh man this guy has just been impactful everywhere everywhere

  • 1:49:49

    and then i never got the brooklyn crib i got my own crib and i needed a chef

  • 1:49:54

    and my mom said i know a chef and i called the chef and i got a chef and the chef came over and by the grace

  • 1:50:01

    of the monopoly gods it just happened to be michael k williamson

  • 1:50:08

    that's right son yeah i didn't know that i i saw you know it now no i'm saying i follow chef and

  • 1:50:14

    he kept posting mad but i didn't know that was his son that's your son oh i know that

  • 1:50:20

    me neither so as i'm eating these meals

  • 1:50:26

    you know black people share over some food so he's cooking

  • 1:50:32

    and he's starting to share some of his struggles and some things that he battles with and

  • 1:50:38

    for me fam you here to cook like this ain't that but some of what he was

  • 1:50:45

    saying was piercing me in my soul and then i learned who he was

  • 1:50:52

    i said oh i finally got you

  • 1:50:57

    i got you mike i found the area that you may not be i found the imperfection

  • 1:51:04

    and it hit me because i went through that with my first son you know you out you running around man we running we

  • 1:51:10

    running we ripping and we running and we might not show up as the best

  • 1:51:16

    of that right that dad maybe i'm thinking damn man this guy has been

  • 1:51:22

    this brilliant wow going through this this is a different

  • 1:51:28

    this is a different struggle here and after i learned that i went on to see interviews from michael

  • 1:51:35

    k williams where he speaks on exactly that

  • 1:51:40

    transparently candidly freely yo there was some dark times where i didn't

  • 1:51:45

    show up and it wasn't the best thing i had to learn for it i had to make some decisions i had to get myself frightened and then i was there to eat with this

  • 1:51:52

    chef and see it maybe get a little better from far without knowing

  • 1:51:58

    right it humanized mike for me

  • 1:52:04

    because i just always saw him as this just amazing genius who just spread love and light

  • 1:52:10

    everywhere and was just full of talent and maybe use the creative as an escape like most of us do but it made

  • 1:52:17

    the genius even more genius like the thing about genius and we use that word loosely a lot right

  • 1:52:24

    like the viewing public y'all just get to see the work y'all don't get to see the work to the work yeah they see the

  • 1:52:31

    finished product y'all see the result yeah man the result you don't see the world ava duvernay said that she spoke about him coming to him coming to

  • 1:52:38

    set when it wasn't his day just to make the actors and the actresses feel better just to learn just to see and even in

  • 1:52:45

    speaking to him about movies you know like some talk to me about rap and they'll be like yo i don't hear like you like it's different he the move me

  • 1:52:53

    talking to him about movies was like that like oh i didn't oh dissecting that like

  • 1:52:58

    oh the actor here and he took this movie rolled wine and it did this and he turned this down it was like it was like

  • 1:53:04

    you know the meme where dude is in front of the chalkboard he did that with movies and his son did it with movies

  • 1:53:10

    too and it just made me appreciate him even more like

  • 1:53:16

    because i went through that so if you went through any of this any of it any of it that you know he went

  • 1:53:23

    through to see him always smile always always have a smile to light up the

  • 1:53:30

    room i'm not telling you all about magic johnson who won a chip in college you want to chip as a rookie who

  • 1:53:35

    had the endorsement who had to smell who every time you seen him just smiling and white people love to smile oh my god man black guy is smiling no

  • 1:53:42

    no mike is smiling

  • 1:53:47

    a from our hood and went through some of what we went through and they didn't win chip

  • 1:53:53

    had the same struggles and hardships and demons man it'd be tough for me to read

  • 1:54:00

    what you white owned publications post when one of our black kings go

  • 1:54:06

    boy it hurts me it hurts me i read that post in the post and i don't i

  • 1:54:12

    have boycotted the post because the post is the post the post but you read it but you

  • 1:54:19

    read it because boy they rushed to the story rushed right out don't tell me about nothing you found on

  • 1:54:25

    michael k williams table why he ain't why he gone ah

  • 1:54:31

    don't work like that you don't tell me his truths america you tell me yours

  • 1:54:36

    you don't tell me about how he ended up here how we ended up here how it got to be like that

  • 1:54:42

    it's never the y it's always this no that was none of my business

  • 1:54:50

    that was none of your business how our great amazing

  • 1:54:56

    genius performers go about the art of entertaining us

  • 1:55:03

    is none of our business until it is and mike was really really loved a lot

  • 1:55:08

    of us loving we had a lot of friends a lot of people know but you don't know

  • 1:55:13

    you don't know how do you know you don't know black men is running around

  • 1:55:20

    coping literally maintaining yeah and some white men too nah but

  • 1:55:26

    men are coping and burying

  • 1:55:33

    i'm highlighting that meeting that we stayed after church to kick it with because it was a place that you don't

  • 1:55:39

    kick it like that you don't you don't share the things that were shared there and i was so sick i used to run in

  • 1:55:45

    the bathroom and pop my pills and then come back out to hear the meeting

  • 1:55:52

    so imagine my heart and soul and spirit when you get the phone call in the

  • 1:55:57

    morning to say hey man reverend ron was found in his office

  • 1:56:03

    they saying pills they saying i don't know i don't know

  • 1:56:08

    boy that hurts imagine reading the post and michael k williams hey this is what

  • 1:56:15

    we found it hurts but it hurts if y'all never say that to post

  • 1:56:21

    and that's the part y'all don't know y'all don't have to tell us because we know what the statistics say about those

  • 1:56:27

    of us that struggle in these areas we don't really win we lose

  • 1:56:34

    the is y'all telling us about what you found in the confines of somebody's personal home y'all are

  • 1:56:39

    disgusting but you know that already because i'm the millionth person to tell you y'all not even my focus right now so i'm

  • 1:56:46

    all for that i'm just saying when i learned about his death

  • 1:56:51

    i went to the sun's page just to check the temp and i left in a millisecond i couldn't

  • 1:56:57

    stay there he was losing it sure and he said yo i just stepped off a plane

  • 1:57:04

    and opened my phone and saw this that be my issue with how things are

  • 1:57:10

    reported and published because they don't realize these are people not it's humanity's thing they do not

  • 1:57:15

    realize humanity still reporters should fam they do not look at us as people

  • 1:57:22

    because they know you just described it as a story you're just a story no i mean we go back to when colby

  • 1:57:28

    passed i think all the fosters all the false information rick fox peoples were sitting there

  • 1:57:33

    saying yo oh the ambulance people came and took pics of a dead kobe yeah

  • 1:57:39

    so we know what they should do but they don't do that they're not doing that it's who can get to it first

  • 1:57:46

    nah i think what happens in society is they separate celebrity from human

  • 1:57:54

    definitely like so i said they don't look at you we was together when kobe passed and even us

  • 1:58:00

    i'm like man i'm in my head bro i couldn't grasp it right i'm like that

  • 1:58:06

    nigga's gonna find kobe in the desert with a broke leg somewhere no almost crashed this is

  • 1:58:11

    kobe yeah i like y'all they're gonna be over like they're gonna catch this carrying gigi on his back she gonna have

  • 1:58:17

    a couple scratches this leg gonna be broke like this is kobe my kobe don't walk off he walk off the

  • 1:58:23

    court he don't get caught yeah we was having it like we were in the middle of the monastery in the middle of like we ain't believing that this kobe and in

  • 1:58:29

    the news well team going and kept going man well they'd normally be right but

  • 1:58:35

    that's cold like literally like they're gonna find them in the bushes somewhere like in the tree so i think what happens with

  • 1:58:41

    society because they get the quote unquote regular people versus celebrity right

  • 1:58:46

    they don't look at you in a humanistic light you're not you get what i'm saying you're not looking at it as a person

  • 1:58:52

    yeah i think that's what happens i think like we forget that these people got kids you forget that these people got

  • 1:58:58

    parents you forget that these people got siblings right so if a cop gets killed

  • 1:59:04

    you embrace their family a celebrity get killed people forget that they're humans and you'll write anything like dog it

  • 1:59:11

    could be 50 50 on whether it's true y'all still write it and once you put it out you can't take it back it could be

  • 1:59:18

    100 false you can't take it back like they forget the human humanistic point of the celebrities you

  • 1:59:24

    know what i'm saying and that's horrible i agree uh yeah i had to leave his leave

  • 1:59:30

    his son's page i could only i could i would only have to imagine or what that's like and even when i try to

  • 1:59:36

    imagine it hurts too much like i'm blessed to still have both my parents he lost his mom

  • 1:59:43

    and his dad in a year oh yeah he did you're right

  • 1:59:49

    cause i remember he was posting about his moms too you're right i know a lot of us are

  • 1:59:55

    grieving man we are grieving and we mourning a really really really

  • 2:00:00

    really special brother part of some of the uh responsible for

  • 2:00:05

    some of the greatest characters in tv history but an even greater character himself

  • 2:00:14

    class act class personified just

  • 2:00:21

    genius and and work and preparation and just meticulous

  • 2:00:27

    and just loved it all and just loved all of this

  • 2:00:34

    that one hurt they all hurt but this one hit me a little differently

  • 2:00:42

    mike we love you to your children your fans

  • 2:00:48

    your family i'm praying for y'all i'm praying for y'all we suff we all

  • 2:00:54

    suffer we all have suffered great loss great loss

  • 2:00:59

    with this one and and we'll miss him all of this hurts

  • 2:01:08

    oh he's in a better place i hope he's happy i hope he's at peace

  • 2:01:13

    and i pray i pray for the same for all of us that love him that had a really difficult monday and some

  • 2:01:22

    people close them that had a tough saturday and sunday thing about them wellness checks

  • 2:01:28

    think about them wellness checks a wellness check

  • 2:01:34

    it's cause somebody wants to know if you're well i was talking to my mom

  • 2:01:40

    uh because i had to check on her i had to check on her and make sure she was uh before going to bed

  • 2:01:45

    when i found out i was i wasn't calling her to tell her i thought i had the news early i thought i was protecting her

  • 2:01:50

    and then she called me but i called her the night before to check on her and we start talking about wellness checks and

  • 2:01:55

    what it means and i'm like yo if i don't show up to my if i don't show up to my podcast on

  • 2:02:01

    tuesday and no one hears from me on tuesday i anticipate there'd be a wellness check right

  • 2:02:07

    because you know that's the regular schedule yeah yeah yeah see my mom get to talking and she's

  • 2:02:12

    like well when i'm in that headspace i leave my uh

  • 2:02:19

    i think to leave my door unlocked and i said well why just in case and she said just in case

  • 2:02:25

    in case somebody has to get in here the fire department the police you

  • 2:02:30

    and i laughed i laughed i had a good laugh boy did i get a good laugh she didn't understand why i was laughing but

  • 2:02:36

    i said mom if me or my brother thought that you weren't well

  • 2:02:41

    that door's the last whether the door is locked unlocked

  • 2:02:56

    fam that door is coming down a second i get him probably faster than if i try to just pull the door off good point

  • 2:03:03

    you're right but i didn't even want to put myself in that in that in that

  • 2:03:08

    headspace even that thought was scary man listen if you have your parents if you

  • 2:03:14

    have a parent just hug them love them check on them as is rough and

  • 2:03:21

    it ain't getting easier it ain't getting easier out here if you are out there dealing with demons

  • 2:03:27

    darkness devil's depression and despair

  • 2:03:34

    i love you you're not alone and we need you here

  • 2:03:40

    i've heard mike say it a bunch if you don't have hope what are you here for

  • 2:03:46

    hopefully yeah i don't know what to say i don't have the words i don't have the words i didn't even

  • 2:03:51

    know i was gonna come in paul today honestly i i told you i didn't know i checked on you and i didn't really i was even even

  • 2:03:58

    that i was like skeptical like everybody else i don't wanna you know what i mean i would have understood everybody yeah i wouldn't

  • 2:04:04

    understand i thought the tweet in the moment yo dog cancel but i ain't wanna let me let it sit let me let it sit let

  • 2:04:11

    me let it marinate that's just the tough part about having it ain't no words

  • 2:04:16

    there are no words that could describe how i feel how i feel

  • 2:04:22

    about this man like if he touched you he touched you and that's it and that's all we have that's what we leave here with how many

  • 2:04:27

    people did we touch how many people did we affect how much change did we do and

  • 2:04:32

    mike you did it you did that if you did it for no one else which

  • 2:04:38

    could not be true you certainly did it for me and for that i love you forever man i

  • 2:04:44

    want to send a rest and peace out as well to uh stand-up comic fuquan johnson oh yeah oh man god as well as the others

  • 2:04:50

    that

  • 2:04:57

    that one hurt too man i don't like to harp on it that was fentanyl rumored yes

  • 2:05:03

    yes please i i've lost people to fentanyl if you do drugs

  • 2:05:08

    please test them i still have friends that do drugs for fun and you keep saying it too every single time you say

  • 2:05:14

    i'm terrified you say it every single time there was i saw someone a timeline where they were

  • 2:05:20

    saying where they give out a fentanyl test like they give out free fentanyl tests

  • 2:05:26

    and if it's not free it costs a dollar you can get them somewhere we should look that up and give it out it's funny you say that i was looking

  • 2:05:31

    because i seen you could buy the buns in bulk on amazon and i was like i just want to buy a bunch of them but i don't know what to do once we get them

  • 2:05:38

    but i did see that yeah it came with the instructions on how to you know test whether because they're putting it in

  • 2:05:43

    everything so yeah i've had to yell at friends and family members recently at the wedding like please

  • 2:05:49

    if i'm not going to say don't do drugs because i would be a hypocrite i would be a terrible person for saying that but please test it because please today it's

  • 2:05:57

    in everything they're throwing that in whatever but when you say use responsibly today

  • 2:06:02

    responsibly just means a little more it means more than just hey don't drive or now it could be literally make sure

  • 2:06:09

    they're not poisoning your coke or whatever and that's the other thing i would like for them to stop doing too

  • 2:06:14

    when they find out it's fentanyl related stop saying overdose that's not an od that's poisoned yeah

  • 2:06:20

    because i didn't buy fentanyl yeah yeah you give them some i didn't i did not get fentanyl i didn't go to get

  • 2:06:26

    fentanyl i never liked the use of overdoses absolutely period i hate the term overdose because

  • 2:06:32

    you can't ask the person hey did you take more than you normally take

  • 2:06:38

    like fool when i've read what happened reading it sounds like a great night in l.a yeah right i went to the comedy club

  • 2:06:45

    i tore down i went back with the homies went in the bathroom it was the kickback he probably did that a million

  • 2:06:52

    correct times so don't call it an overdose well they call it overdose because it was uh fatal but for that

  • 2:06:58

    person you don't know they was just in their normal bag right maybe i normally do cocaine i don't do

  • 2:07:05

    fentanyl in cocaine you know what i'm saying that i that was poisoned i don't understand why they put fentanyl and cocaine because they're two different

  • 2:07:11

    it's like a speed ball and it's like doing heroin and cocaine same time it's opiates and upper

  • 2:07:18

    that's like it nobody in jersey city could get fit no

  • 2:07:24

    because we don't have the power to just go somewhere and purchase fentanyl in bulk and uh step on the drugs that way

  • 2:07:29

    okay oh you mean in a mass quantity where is all coming from it from why ain't it important because what's

  • 2:07:35

    happening is people can't get cut cut for the heroin is expensive and what happened is they're trying to kill us

  • 2:07:42

    that's what they're trying to counter with joe because that's always coming to us who was us when they when they put the

  • 2:07:48

    drugs where they put it who was it intended for oh i don't know i'm just saying that's why i was asking who's us because mad

  • 2:07:54

    people dropping death from that and and it ain't no racial thing because and when you go to school where's a lot of

  • 2:08:00

    it coming from when you go to south jersey fam then white people was falling over like tic tacs i just read why you

  • 2:08:05

    think there's been 90 000 this year why you think all the governors and all of them now are saying yo it's a sickness

  • 2:08:12

    it's a sickness this is sickness they're calling it a sickness not a sickness it's a rice is right it's a poisoning no no what i'm saying is they talk about

  • 2:08:19

    drug addiction because it's spilled outside the white people are falling over from it right

  • 2:08:25

    yeah like the governor's kids and and executives kids and all of these kids are falling off because of the the

  • 2:08:32

    heroin down south jersey is crazy yeah when black people was on crack all these crackhead they criminals

  • 2:08:38

    they crooks they this thing them all right lock them away don't never let the key out right right now

  • 2:08:44

    that the white people are falling over right the white people are addicted some cocaine and heroin heroin bro again

  • 2:08:51

    they lacing the dope they listen both they like listen crazy they're like

  • 2:08:58

    they're lacing everything what is this k-9 yes what is it yes k2 k2

  • 2:09:05

    but again um but yes they're releasing everything the heroine primarily like wrinkling that damn fentanyl on i

  • 2:09:10

    ain't heard of k2 uh i heard a k2 report out the suburbs yet

  • 2:09:16

    outside of the suburbs or you mean from the suburbs oh i don't know i just keep here in brooklyn i keep hearing the

  • 2:09:22

    bronx i don't be knowing how much about the cajun only too much about westchester

  • 2:09:27

    wherever the other places are i ain't gonna speak too much and all that cause i don't know right i don't know i'm just

  • 2:09:32

    telling you thoughts i wish that there was aggression and trying to get fitting all off the streets listen cause it's killing my

  • 2:09:39

    dogs i'm agreeing with joe when i say this is planned attack at this point because

  • 2:09:45

    most of that fentanyl where it traces back to is the same place the virus traces back to

  • 2:09:51

    i don't think that's a coincidence that's just me speaking i do not think that's a coincidence but

  • 2:09:57

    when you say like use your drugs responsibly right like and what that means today

  • 2:10:03

    today that means you can't even pass your drugs to the next person like you it ain't cypher solutions oh nah no

  • 2:10:12

    you don't know what that is you can't no no no you just don't want to believe me even back in the day dawg like you you

  • 2:10:18

    uh one of my rest in peace matter of fact he passed away from covet but um

  • 2:10:23

    he had smoked some bad weed one time it the central nervous system up he wasn't ever the same fan we all watched

  • 2:10:29

    friday yes but we all watched friday but they made a joke out of it but that was really happening

  • 2:10:36

    you know on the skit cam said yo this ain't purple neither tito i'm not smoking this like that was my first time

  • 2:10:41

    doing angel dustin thinking it was weird yeah we all saw the rest in peace we saw the x story

  • 2:10:47

    yeah oh that too that too yeah man yeah like you don't like you use responsibly today means

  • 2:10:55

    something totally different tester get the strips textures yeah and keep that's not part of drunk

  • 2:11:01

    like you i don't get it i know drugs at the bar someone's got yeah i mean here you want to do it yeah i mean but that's

  • 2:11:07

    hard you know people have been lucky throughout the years because even that

  • 2:11:13

    ain't none of us chemists i didn't know the quantity you don't know what you don't know what's what what's in what you're getting i'm not even sure never

  • 2:11:19

    touched it right like you might just not hit the little spot of fentanyl you know what i'm saying i

  • 2:11:26

    yo please be safe and be careful i'm i'm telling that to the people in and of this culture because

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    i swear it's that that's what that's where it's at it's not joe it's what we do it's that's the

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    thing though this should be self-medicine everywhere i'm telling you there's been 90 000 fentanyl-related

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    deaths this year alone like it ain't just hitting this culture

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    this is this is something else and like i said i add that with the

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    other thing this seems to be a little targeted to this country

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    mike i love um i'm often yeah yeah mike i love you everybody out there

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    please be careful please please be safe and please just try to make it to tomorrow

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    even if you may not have the energy to all today i don't have nowhere to take

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    y'all next yeah i'm i'm right i'm cool we can go home love light peace we can

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    play sleepers unless y'all got something nah that's cool man we good this is good this was this was

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    necessary we got it uh anything breaking we need to get to the nfl boy y'all nfl

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    we'll talk about it later it's not important right now they don't want the teams to do nothing with the nfts until they regulate it

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    somehow no until we figure out how we can kind of live money off and ain't regulation is

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    well you're not about to get this flavoration slaveration your saying

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    get this money without us uh congratulations to cardian offset oh that's good

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    she had her she had her baby little boy he was there on a little side bed like a stand-up dude that's right

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    he was in the side a little side bed hey man that sounds good i got the best sleep ever that shorty was hot

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    sin was mad too you went to sleep yeah you thought i was going to the nurse just said we had 17 hours until

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    yeah i'm cool when it's time what the yeah she said she was duplicating her late and she said

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    another day last sleep

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    she's coming over to me like nurse was coming over to me like i was responsible like telling me all right

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    she's duplicating this like fam i don't just let me know when flex is here that's how i felt like man look is it

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    time yet no all right cool right now you watch the ice huh you watched watch

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    what childbirth oh yes oh yeah right there really mm-hmm did you cut

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    the cord the hole did your kids had your head get stuck on the court no did your kid's head get stuck in her no

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    he popped right out three pushes seven minutes of hard labor yeah really yeah girl is so cool man

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    yeah it made me look at you totally different i'm like you got it whatever the argument is from here on

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    out you right because once you see that you know your dick is inferior to everything

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    challenge accepted i'm gonna make you feel it again i never her again oh you

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    we was on the clock like how many weeks they said what they said well they said six right we was well on our way to

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    doomsday buddy we was on the countdown

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    what's up tv we're not i'm like oh you don't want to tell them the rest

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    um oh man i hope everybody man

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    whatever y'all got sleepers yeah i did let me get you let me get the cord oh let me i got you buddy here's a little

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    cord for you

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    yo 42 dog dude nothing oh yeah we even talk about oh

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    yeah i mean watching made in america number one do you have something you want to tell us about no just

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    it was a dope show i i have a newfound appreciation for ronnie rich i did not know

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    he was that ill he was home too right no no he's from compton oh damn well i

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    thought he was from philly because but he literally he smoked

  • 2:15:44

    that talk about it right such a dumbass we go there from

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    florida how about to say you can't guess that wrong that one you can't guess why can't you

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    not kodak have you seen them just heard them that's florida

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    i'm out here

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    you