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I like it roll it yeah hey Hugo

yeah we are back into your alright huh

you didn't do your alright I was trying to practice no [ __ ] you Marissa okay so

we gonna get it all right it's almost pressure because my that my last - alright haven't been good so I walk in

the door Elena's podcast later episode number 48 or 49 know what he said it's either 48 foot

Annette uh I have Marty's body with me hello Marty the body aka Marty Monroe

aka retweet or of all anything

we're with blink in the tweet she's battling Elliott Wilson to the top spot yeah earlier today somebody somebody

tweeted me they tweeted me and you they added us both and I hate when it happens

cuz I never want to be included in what's to come what follows that well anyway they tweeted us and sure enough I

did a countdown in my head I said how long till my teary to miss this Tim I got to six my [ __ ]

and you was right there with why do you do that everyone love without having to

reply no but you retweet the people that you're speaking bad about to show that

I'm not afraid to I just when it haters so you want to show everyone love but you want to show everyone you're not

afraid to face your face the screen you're a hater and we have Michael roars

here hey guys I feel like we had an another nickname for you that we invented it's fine what was it Rory Rory

had a failed attempt no it's so last year I'm so 2016 the first seven months

of the new year I'm that guy oh I'm dead so last year the new me I know I may be

on that that kanou me I do it's a nasty ho ho I'm into all of that so I don't

think of that nickname Rory I don't need your help damn it was good Oh Rory had a

failed attempt at trying to nickname me uh what was your bum ass name from the last week's ask my gasps we know your

nickname is mad whack because it was funny and we never heard from it again it was for the context just being sassy

that necessities so where do we want to start today or I think we should

definitely talk about how we announced our first live podcast and make that a thing make sure everyone knows what's

going down SOB February 2nd tickets are available now at SOPs calm pretty much

covered it yep if you like this podcast and are in the New York Connecticut

Jersey Pennsylvania area come out and support us tickets are only $15 we did that just for y'all isn't really a money

grab it's for you guys and what are we charged with for right we would say that

grab yo we take it all we donating all the money to my pockets there's this

nice organization called my pockets and my crib we're not taking negative

proceeds from this we could lie and say it's going to charity like 10% of it

I want to see you get me a new coat I want to see Santa Mahdi's coat I want to

see re shut up Marty I want to see all the dab in Santa sweater receipts I want

I want to know where all the money he's

been using the money from that to do that for them are you [ __ ] kidding me three million dollars boat trailer more

the person that works for this [ __ ] went to Ikea oh one trailer home for like maybe $1000

word went went to Kentucky furnish the [ __ ] from [ __ ] Jennifer convertibles

yeah let's just start saying he went to [ __ ] clothes store you went to Lane Bryant furnace the crib it's been no

money at all and you are the person that that works for yo get a camera guy

this film was going to that bum that's created 101 the one they let us shoot the real John yeah we go to that tree if

you take some pictures do a photo op to change you're a great guy yeah get the

whole neighborhood isn't really [ __ ] with us alien and you leave that we just pocket like one point whatever 2 mil is

- mm 97% of the pros getting a kid to cry on camera is worth like 3 million dollars it must have all went to him so

we're doing a live podcast at Sol bees on February 2nd I know it's February 2nd because I checked the little flyer thing

there auroria Marisa posted on Instagram today to find out when it was so it's February 2nd number 1 - I'm still a

little confused about the concept buying this but I was confused about the concept behind a podcast so I'm gonna

I'm gonna just play the back seat on this one uh not too much in the backseat cousin

model I have too much of a voice and then she'll want to aux port and it will be listening some [ __ ] [ __ ] and that will never happen with me in the car yeah right anyway so

the Oscars I mean uh the Golden Globes I'm sorry I'm sorry Parma yes the Golden

Globes not the Oscars y'all to look like this is not on YouTube yeah well alright

is it is oh my god is this delves into a much deeper problem here what were you

doing that worried what were you doing while the Golden Globes were on what was it Sunday night the Rory doesn't even

know the day it was alright watch it first what were you doing when the golden glow can you tell me what it will

MEA you two genius is this what did you guys want to talk about it's only the

Golden Globes it's only what a lot of [ __ ] people were watching I want the

red carpet [ __ ] the fashion [ __ ] okay don't wait though yes I watched it the host was pretty [ __ ] controversial he

offended a bunch of [ __ ] our rich [ __ ] yeah like there was a lot

going on at this year's Oscars [ __ ] the Denzel I mean I was gonna go I keep

saying it the Denzel tribute like I figured it would be [ __ ] that people you

guys his age and that demographic would be into all of Twitter was talking about it Isis that's world our world you're

not in interview but I saw that I saw the Golden Globe so I'm excluded from this cozy thing I'm trying to figure out

if you didn't watch it I figured the Golden Globes would be at least one of the things that you double back to to

see what occurred but y'all don't seem like no I'm trying to see is it me that's disattached from I were in

Affairs I want to watch the Oscars the Grammys I've never really watched like

so you're 20 6:25 there you've been 25 for a long time my [ __ ] what is your birthday we

all went to his birthday party that is my point this league has been 25 since then oh

yeah that mean that crazy that would make sense he was 25 before then - yeah 24 this

[ __ ] been 25 for at least 3 years 1 May 4th and when was that party damn you

were born in the 90s you were born when a fourth why she named wait wait why

I've known this why aren't you still an idea what why aren't you still like the

end of a great Saturday night for your parents and 90 why would be at that

point I was conceived in 89 if we're gonna backtrack well you were staying at

80s baby a J's no wait wait what you were you more 87 so you really have no

excuse to be this dumb what what do you mean dumb no nothing

I've been calling you dumb for 48 week okay so back to my original question I'd

like to know what you guys wanted to talk about today if we're not wearing if we're not talking about um the Golden

Globes and that's exactly why I don't tell people what I wear I meant the set not the clothing that's what I mean cuz

that's what women do women's women smell a scent and then they purchase it for the [ __ ] that's [ __ ] them hey do

you know I don't I didn't really inquire okay I mean I just thought maybe you

recognize the scent so nobody is gonna answer my question about what you guys wanted to talk about we had to debate

yeah so we're getting right into the debate I don't know we can so nothing

else seem very invested in the Golden Globes is there something you want to get off your chest you could minimize my

point however you may like I'm not minimizing it's not that's a question that that I am invested in the Golden Globes I'm

invested in the ideology that 225 and however old you are year old young

people who do Cass and I would consider as in the mix as far as being in the know in terms of

what's going on in the universe and in our culture I'm shocked that you guys didn't see it so my I'm perplexed at you

guys Matt invested like this is the [ __ ] like y'all didn't see a file into the Lambs or some [ __ ] but I just was doing

something else on a Sunday night that I wasn't rushing to my TV in thinking that we had to give us give us cool

introduction music for our debate I don't have time to go back and forth with people born in 1990 but you're

about to right now for the listeners

certainly Matt because I enjoy talking to Rory it's of all people yeah those

jokes are getting old at this point I don't know what I can play because I don't want it to come down on Soundcloud

[ __ ] listen I think SoundCloud will

allow us to play something cool for our debate like some rocky music or something there's been a rocky marathon

there's been a rocky marathon on television but whatever channel that is the kids you don't turn this [ __ ] off

this is what the [ __ ] they've been to leading us for when we tried to start a podcast and you turn it right back on see 102 people 199 SF rocky theme music

not the music that got us rocky theme music is less popular mob they'll

definitely take rocky down before they take mob I'm not talking about popularity I'm talking about evidence we

have evidence that they take us down when you play that song I'm talking about a new song where we have no

evidence that they will take us down we have to see we have to give ourselves a shot and not shortchange ourselves 1990

90s man you're back to being SAS magesh what's your [ __ ] problem today

Jesus Quincy 2016

like only bitchier female Joe that loves the golden glow work every time I every

time I make sense Moira fate has like some retort to belittle me I'm just making sense guys

darn it I'm sorry again then I didn't watch the Golden Globes still here we're

about 30 minutes in on a podcast hey David how far away in 15 15 minutes I

just want to point to to my point we're 15 minutes in and these two geniuses who

did not see the Golden Globes have no alternative of anything like them outside of the debate I came up with

last [ __ ] week so on the podcast that we do every [ __ ] Tuesday for 48 49

weeks we've had 15 minutes of you guys making Golden Globe jokes which points

out the joke see the problem Golden

Globe damn it yeah now well you're made of the things

I ran with now Rory and I have have been

anticipating this debate for quite some time because we talked about we have

almost had this yesterday several times and we've stopped ourselves are we

we've got over that and we've stopped ourselves from having it because we

didn't want to hear each other's points or talk points that's how professional we are you hear that out there listeners

and here we are we have for the people that did not listen to last last week's

podcast what [ __ ] this [ __ ] last week Oh for the people that didn't listen to

last week's podcast I brought up Tory

Lanez Brian Bryson Bryson my apologies I

dunno this gentleman's name Bryson tiller and partynextdoor comparatively

and that spawned an entire debate and and a lot of dialogue between me and my

contemporaries which led us to who is the better artist is our debate yes

currently today our Bryson tiller versus

Tory Lanez I personally wish we had someone here to

take party next door side in this or at least argue their point I'll try to to

the best of my ability when I feel it's relevant I asked Rory to invite a friend to

friend of the podcast Rob Markman along with his co-host to his podcast on here

because they do an R&B podcast Rory never got back to me I'm assuming he wanted no knowledgeable R&B people in

the room during this debate here goes Joe and his stories in passing you said

hey it'd be great to get Rob Markman and his co-hosts on there I said yeah be pretty good and then we never spoke about it again a little bit different

than what you just said but it's fine cuz I would've been happy to have Rob on you see why I don't talk to people that

were born in 1990 they just all they'd give you as a remix he's given me a

remix of what occurred and passing yeah and if he's listening to his remix he

makes sense now in passing we were in my [ __ ] car sitting right next to each other taking a ride

living room where I was walking to the kitchen is is that in passing yeah

everybody yo know for 2016 I'm gonna start making it a point to point out when people sound [ __ ] so y'all can

call it G and C hearted Rory sounds I some nuts [ __ ] right so Rory called

Rory called in passing him sitting in my living room and one of us walking by

each other and me saying to him y'all know what would be a good idea for our podcast this week you should call Rob

Marc never said that we should get his co-host and they should talk on ours

remix it well wait and they should come on our show I just think it's a dope idea because I think for going forward

podcasters combining and doing a joint podcast is an amazing idea what the

isn't passing about that how money you don't hear you Armani's trying to talk

to us from the other room and I don't hear you David we stood on what is wrong

with you today still don't hear you come in the room just come in and say what you got to say see now when I start

making sense Rory and Marissa and the likes of people who were born between 80 and 81 because you've like started they

start insulting me yeah he's lying yes

thank you he's lying what was my response that's what I'm

saying I understand I understand worried but that's not important listen so they're not here which is fine Rory is

taking um Bryson Teresa Tillis right yes um I do want to know why this debate

makes more sense than like Drake verse like a Kendrick because they're two different artists and two different

lanes these two artists we would agree make similar music are and are also in

the same Lane right you would say so I agree okay so that's why I think this debate makes sense and before we start

because I know people are very invested in their artists out there this

is a debate for fun yeah we both enjoy both of these artists very much so and

we're just debating because we're on a podcast and we want to have fun and we're [ __ ] hopefully no one gets

offended in that if someone by chance is to get offended this wouldn't be my

first time offending someone so with that said where do we begin

well as you say this was your idea and you seem to be in a big debate mood

today do you want to start off on why you think Tory Lanez well a better let's

let's start with what are we basing this

on like when we say artists what are our sliders if we were creating a player

what's sliders do we have here when we say artists I would say complete

involving albums I'm still putting sales

in there I'm putting tours I'm putting appearance the full things

that make an artist that it can't just be what joe likes that can't be your point here we have to have things that

are tangible or this isn't gonna be a debate that works wait this but I don't care how many

shows Bryson tiller does right is what

Joe likes cuz that's not a point I'm asking the forum I haven't said that I'm

asking the forum is that's a viable like slider we have to care about that when

we're debating artistry yeah I think performing is I'm not talking I'm not talking about they [ __ ] careers and

how much money they may um timeout more anything about money it's really because

why else would I care about how many shows he's doing uh oh you mean his live

show yeah okay I misunderstood it I got that oh that's important yeah yeah that's very boy his show yeah

that's what I'm suggesting I'm just I was taught my volume I don't care how many of them he's doing oh I

mean I'm I mean if that's far your argument cool whatever all right come on so what else those are my things there's anything one add whatever we think of

let's just go down them one by one let's let's start who makes better music you got it Tori

who [ __ ] things better yeah you got it again Tori who Randy better oh you guessed it

Tori this is a pretty good debate here I do want to note that Bryce and the tellers album came out in October and

then last week the first week of the new year which is gonna give my top 40 since

he's released but he just got top 10 now this week he's number nine so he moved up and that's like pretty pretty cool

that's amazing so that's what I'm saying

no no you continue on with you with your feelings it's never with no points those

are my points wait there's a debate there somewhere Bryson tiller makes better music than

Tory Lanez you're basing that on what let's hear it to be an actual artist would you think

creating may completely over that's weak are you gonna make comments what's my

podcast like I'm gonna make jokes while you talk no Marissa would you think creating a full album or original music

as a viable thing that an artist a great artist should do hmm okay you said last

week chicks take three is your favorite project from toilets correct hmm you

said you liked a few songs off chicks tape too right mm-hmm okay that album

important that mixtape is a bunt is 11 songs legendary songs where he took the

actual hook didn't even resync it just threw it in the middle and harmonized like Bryson tiller around it Bryson

tiller put out a actual album that has a 34 city tour right now and is

selling non-stop since October with a huge fan base and you have a mixtape

that is a bunch of other people's music as your way of saying he's a better artist this is why I'm a little confused

I don't think that you've said anything that supports artistry making an

original album is artistry pudding assured you got it bad in the middle of your record and singing oh we don't have

to insult my point I'm just trying to understand yours at the moment okay he did an album I think that's me he's dead

he's dead at how men it was successful in his touring what the [ __ ] does that have to do with artistry to create a great album that

has been people no no listen have his team handled his project and however

whoever is behind and his guitar and all the great success that he's enjoying his

well-deserved he did put out an album that people love it's extremely well versed we got all that what the [ __ ] do

they have to do with artistry is my point making an original we all of us

make original music some is wack when one is dope Maddie Monroe makes some writers but you keep saying that like

we're like we're to give credence to a made an original a tweet all the great original album and make original album

all tory lanez trick is to take a popular song flip it and sing around it while people wait for him to stop doing

the verse and go right to the hook okay you're still attacking my point while I'm still trying to understand yours so

now that we got all the touring and the shows and all the great things that are that's happening for Bryson tillers career out of the way let's get back to

the actual album which is at the core of your point right okay are you telling me

that that album is great as in comparison I'm asking you a very direct

question are you telling me that the Bryson tiller album is great the one with all the way let me finish answer my

question the one with all the accolades that you just spoke about that I had to spend so long [ __ ] replying to and

rebutting to that album that's the one you saying is great I said it's a good album good successful album a complete

okay I'm gonna say this again the Bryson tiller album is successful it's a good

album what is that there's nothing to do with my pointer it's a good Apple I need you I'm answering your question directly all right it's a good alpha this is my

new reply I need you to stop wavering between saying great in one part of your

argument and then saying good when it's asked around talking about tell me what's the album is so I know how to

refer to it during the rest of our argument is good good and better than Tory Lanez adding that to it as well

pull up the tracklist from UM trap so

I'm not sure how long Rory has listened to Tory Lanez or how familiar he is with Tory Lanez but I'm not even talking

about Tory Lanez at the moment I'm telling my Bryson tiller I have lived I don't know if people are

familiar with my background and arm B but I have one um I'd like to think I

know a little bit more about arm B than probably your prototypical rapper um so

I've lived with this album for quite some time so I'm not casually speaking about it when I speak about it so you

have this album up half track one is intro a difference how you feel about

good good intro to start up track to let them know like let them know a lot track

three exchange phenomenal record track for forever how long I like it don't

really great record open in early really like it so whereas six and I have how

many in a lose three you have to if you

if you count the intro as an interlude you have one let me see open interlude is the only one I don't count the intro

as intro one minute 32 seconds an intro is not an interlude it's an intro okay

so I'm at track six and I have three songs right your neck open is it might

stop me when I'm saying something wrong no one what are you looking around it no one's saying you're wrong

open is 2 minutes and 42 seconds what

say speak you just looking around because I'm asking the same question and

I don't understand what you're saying so we're at track 6 and we have 3 joints that are not actual songs I know it

doesn't sound great what I'm saying but its effect the intro difference I'm not it's not a natural song let them know is

exchange is for however long is not don't is open interlude is not 2:05 so

let's go so let's go from there track 7 10 9 14 tell me about this song I like

it it's a record of him talking about coming up not on the typical love [ __ ] that he was talking about before

it's a up-and-coming record for my artists in the beginning talks about his

mother having to work mad jobs travelling the sequence oh yeah because

it's a great record oh no no I'm just not gonna reply until we're done with the tracklist the sequence his next track 8 ok I like it

you can start you can just say my like every record on this out this one

something a little more - I just want to make sure that we know what we're

talking about here track nine is Rambo

how do you feel about warm up to him

rapping I don't mind it I think it serves a good purpose on the album though 502 come up cool that wasn't

crazy sorry not sorry not sorry track 11 great record

what are we on right now all right been

that way I feel of it I like been that way too over time all right so I'm gonna

get right to the point here I don't think this album is as good as everyone else does

okay I hate to be I hate to be the the one person on this train but I've been

one person on a train before right so so let's something just happened then I

don't hear myself anymore so I can you you can hear me all right so I'll just keep talking anyway I don't know what

happened over here let him come figure it out ah track one intro the difference

I won't even talk about it it's an intro idea we go something good happen let him

know cool I think you're being very generous in terms of reading these tracks exchanged love it forever long

love it should be longer don't is don't nothing to be said open and allude I love it should be longer after that my

[ __ ] you're not telling me you getting in your car and rushing the plates in 14 you're not doing it the sequence is cool

but it sounds like whatever I liked from freedom the secret sounds like whatever I liked before we I got to this point in

my album well why I think to ramble I'm not rushing to it either and and your end you business to me little boy no

ramble don't 5:02 come up dawg I might have deleted this song from my

album I might I said yeah I might have deleted that one I deleted a couple of them sorry not sorry

I'm not on the same wave is Rory been that way is amazing over time of Raymond Rawls I

one really nah I'm Neverland but this is what so this is all you're basing this

kids artistry on because this is the only body of work we have to go on from him and I oughta admire you men gets

even stronger than all right wonderful okay with that says so wait so let's wait oh wait so that's that's not even

fair right and that's not fair now I feel bad we shouldn't even be having this debate we can continue that this

kid is one project in okay Tory Lanez has 11 projects you like one and it's a

bunch of remixes this is an actual album it takes way more artistry to create

real album than a [ __ ] remix chicks tape 3ala fine there's a lot of albums

Rory this kid has one album man I'm not doing that I'm not doing it how many albums it's

Tory Lanez F I'm not doing how many albums the story lines up the kid Brice

Bryson tiller has one project available that is far better than of Tory Lanez

yeah but we can't have this debate the way that we should have it that's not that's not it's not fair like so how can

you have interesting out of Unleavened Tory latest project you like one and it's a remix project how is that artistry okay this is my point since you

since you want to have it we're talking about the artistry of these two gentlemen um we don't need to talk about

the sound of music that they make because they both fall from the Drake

umbrella they both come from the Drake sub-genre of music we can agree to that

yes can i backtrack on one thing you just said just cuz I'm confused I'm listening so we can't talk about

anything that's tangible with what they've accomplished in their careers and now you're saying we can't talk

about the music they make so what the [ __ ] are we talking about when did I say that we can't talk that's what I'd sounded - I think no I never said that

can you read it reiterate your because I didn't get that's what it sounded like you just said my point my point is it's

it's pointless for for either one of us to attack the artistry of the other in

terms of pure art because they both fall from the Drake umbrella

I'm talking about how they do it where I think you got grasp to Tory Lanez more

is like you said you're an RnB head and that is full of classic R&B records that

you already know and love and heard them revamped to today's sound but that's

incorrect that's all that chicks I like it but that's all that is there's not that much artistry yeah I love asurs

artistry too so for some women verse death verse the story lanes is talented if not that whoa whoa I totally disagree

with that to usher Usher no no no okay all right what what I'm what I'm saying

this is what I'm saying Tory Lanez number one flips some songs that I don't

like so you didn't just go get a bunch of my favorite [ __ ] songs and flipping because he flipped them songs

that I can't [ __ ] stand either that's number one number two I'm not about to discredit what he has done because of

what he has done well I keep talking about it like you're the second person you and Johnny together Manus that's two

y'all it ain't so easy to go snatch a song and everybody likes actually it's

more it's more difficult to go snatch a song that everybody likes and flip it and redo it and then get everybody to

like it again I think it's much much more difficult and I try to create an

original successful album than it is to take eleven famous loops and just throw

them in the middle of your song and then sing like Bryson tiller well number one let's be let's be very clear Tory Lanez

things much better than Bryson tiller Tory Lanez I will repeat sings much better than

Bryson tiller now now where Tory Lanez I will repeat because I want you to answer

to it sings way better than Bryson tiller and I'm not calling either one of

them great singers great singers yeah by the way okay but so yeah I don't know

what you talking about one things a lot better than the singer I'm not gonna say

that also why not I've seen Bryson

tiller perform live he sounds very very similar to what he

sounds like on that album there's I can use my footage Victoria uh you are good of toy performing and I

think that's a huge part of artistry so what do you saying you can find footage of Tori performing I'm speaking to who's

a better singer see this is why does this point with anyone could you hard hit it - I don't even see how that's our

argument or debate which one I'm talking about when you turn the [ __ ] song on who sounds better the better engineer is

relying on the [ __ ] engineer anyway so yeah who had the better engineer I prefer Bryson's voice over Tori's who

raps better now I don't know if it's fair for me to answer this because the

only time I really heard Tori rap was on the wasn't missing back that ass up [ __ ]

on chick state 3 and he sounded not to say that bricen doesn't sound like Drake when he raps but Tory Lanez sounds

exactly like Jerry the flow is [ __ ] identical at least when tiller tries to

rap it don't really sound like Drake's flow at all I very very rare from Tory Lanez don't find my drink I said I'm not

sure if I can accurately say this because I heard the chicks tape 3 and

stuff I heard him rapping on 63 literally was mimicking a Drake today really much rapping 163 and it's

mimicking a Drake flow well chicks think really we can drink it's all mimicking

drinks I know I've been saying it for [ __ ] years there's a whole sub-genre music that comes from their stems from

Drake a party I would include a net rightfully so right the weekend I put

onto that I put in that umbrella I put tory lanez in an umbrella I put [ __ ] bryson tiller and that umbrella

who else I put in an umbrella - Majid Jordan in that [ __ ] umbrella what's the other guy's name [ __ ]

Roary Ron Roary dammit I don't remember but he's in that umbrella too

where would where would be that umbrella on and you got [ __ ] I could do

like a whole 360 degrees does well family tree from all that hits come from

drink and you know what that's why I'd said I didn't wanna have this be in the first place uh once we started having it

because well your point you only point you had was that you liked them better I was trying to bring tangible things to the table and you knew that no I didn't

know I can't I can't I can't argue either I can't argue cook a correct careers accomplishments are part of

careers metal artists them Rory both of their careers started yesterday and one is towering over the other so

and they're making the same music so obviously when relay is a bit better

story lanes doesn't have an album out he has a very successful single a so I don't know why you keep they both

started yesterday so why do you keep talking about one less burger a long neck so he's been out longer than till

Tori's single is out now his situation is now when he has a project coming they

both started yesterday I can't compete as of today what's tangible and what's not Bryson tiller has eight successful

album is not easy to just make a [ __ ] album that's good that is receptive to

people all we have that's tangible from Tory in the time that you're saying is now is a [ __ ] eleven tracks of a

records we've already heard that he just flipped oh that's not true that's oh yes that's not true

because he has a successful single that you can look up the number it's working yeah successful albums you and I'm not

wait no no but we're not talking about that we established that part we're talking about Tory well you said has nothing more than an eleven track CD

which is not true because on that same day you put out another city two of them to backpack rapping singing he is he is

I like some of the stuff on it okay what's your point has nothing to it

nothing I'm asking your point keeps coming back to that no I'm asking no my point is you not dumb enough to not know

he is in his process you know where he is when you have a single out working you know when he was putting two mixes

in the future I don't I have never met tory lanez in my life and i can tell you he's somewhere finishing an album right

now like so so my point is you know these things as well was the point not today I'm going off with tangible today

this could change Tory Lanez come out a [ __ ] classic next week but if we're talked about today and what's tangible

now see so that's my point so you wanted them [ __ ] whose argument changes depending on the context of time mines

is not if Tory Lanez comes out if Tory Lanez comes out tomorrow and sells 20

million records now you're changing the debate no I'm okay

yeah but you said that could change tomorrow of course it could Y if Tory

Lanez comes out tomorrow selves 20 million records I'm gonna refer back to my argument in this debate which is that's well-deserved cuz he's the better

artist artist the debate does the artist

is gonna see other artists better now I'm not saying that he'll have a better

career than Bryson tiller I don't know about new body behind Tory Lanez I just

know that from what I am hearing sonically when I talk about song making

rapping singing sounding like Drake having an engineer put the [ __ ] on your

voice to sound nice all of that [ __ ] cat they both do I like it from one more since we're

talking about that's all that we don't any but I love Bryson tiller as well can

I have what they both have shown if I don't want to be the guy that's dissing to new artists and and granting any one of our chilli listen check both of these

gentlemen out and we love both and and listen to him I don't want to be the guy that's deterring his audience and

listeners from listening to good music they both make good music please do not misconstrue this argument and debate

okay since since we're talking about things that may happen let's take out

the album great album sales that Bryson tiller his head the amazing tour that he's put on let's

talk about if Tory Lanez puts out an album tomorrow with no features cuz Bryson tillers

album is that good with not one feature as a new artist what no it's not don't

do that don't do that don't do that you talking to me so while you had no features on his album yeah that we could

see he had every artist in the universe on his [ __ ] side it was a it was a

whole two-week stretch wet and wake up seeing trey songz telling me about bracing to it seeing Chris Brown tell me

without [ __ ] bracing to it that's all Mariana temperature yeah the whole arm the universe on his side no was not

talking about you came out B to buy something no feature we go back to your original point we're talking about the

music on his music there's no features I'm not talking about cosines I said get

the album sales added get the hype is Tory Lanez if he puts out an album tomorrow making

a good if not equal album to trap soul with no features and no flippin [ __ ]

amazing records from the past I hope not I want to hear him flick record from path he's gonna do a full album they're

gonna clear all that [ __ ] they got enough money to do I know they're not gonna do that he's never he's never sold anything without doing that no he has a

bunch of music without doing it sold anything cuz that say is just a brownstone record remixed yes all it is

everyone waits for that [ __ ] hook because it's a because it sounds great but Brown is why you sound like Johnny

so you didn't think of it you didn't go grab the brownstone hook I'm an artist

that's a horrible point nobody did it nobody did it the brownstone song came

out when what year 91 six Imani I'm sure my exact date 95 it was between ninety

four ninety said no one has done it in twenty years I'm not about to say done [ __ ] music

well well clearly then clearly the brownstone sample is a hit hell yeah clearly I love that it's working for the

kid yeah it's so much as lift it again on the [ __ ] cheese tape [ __ ]

he know the [ __ ] is a hit I think that there's something to be said for recognizing there's a pot of gold there nobody else

did you keep trying to use it to discredit him I will not that's one two I know how difficult it is to take

something that the world already likes the world already likes this why do I need it from you and he is successfully

doing that so much so that he's made it a thing of his I respected I too have tried to go in the studio and

take a song that people loved and tried to make something of it and it went horribly bad like it does most times

unless you are unless you have that thing in your ear that I won't say him but somebody does I can't say that Drake

has it maybe forty somebody has it somewhere you can hear it it's coming from somewhere someone in Bryson tiller

someone is doing that sound well and

more people are [ __ ] adopting it and adapting to you almost needs to be

friend Travis Scott I put under that umbrella well I put them under Kanye first and then in the drink kind of well

I'm just saying I don't well I'm just saying if we start a family tree and put and start with Kanye and Drake I'm gonna

be able to connect a lot of sounds starting from those two people so Travis Scott is gonna fall under there

somewhere like there's a lot of people future everything that people like has

that Sam I'm not disagreeing with you and I don't even know how I got to this point from wherever oh okay I got you so

you keep trying to use what this guy what I deem is an attribute for Tory Lanez but that's the only trick like we

just that's we can just smash through because I like Taylor can I like actual original music but I like a few Tory

Lanez so they'd have nothing to do with the flip well you had said that chick state 3 was your favorite and that would best

represent what you thought of him but they liked a few records back 11 mixtape

disagreable I had discovered him so when

I heard chicks tape 3 and heard how polished it was and I could and then I went back to his previous work and I

could hear as an artist him trying to work on it I can hear where it's bad music then I can hear where it got a

little better but he still didn't have the hooks and the bridges like I am I appreciated that so it was songs that

I liked from there all right so you could tell he ate have it together yet let's let's go back to Tory Lanez first

project ever and then let's go to Bryson tillers first project ever which one are you taking we can't find Bryson tillers

first project ever has my boy it was an album he did without a mixtape in an era when people typically put out mixtapes

of four albums as a new artist that's [ __ ] hard to do and Tory Lanez certainly couldn't do that why do you

keep talking about what he's accomplished so Tory Lanez don't have an

album out I'm said [ __ ] the album at this point put the juice off yeah okay

do that put their very first projects but you can't do that because Tory Lanez has never sold an album so if you just

shut up Rory if you're talking about the first two projects that they have ever done we haven't heard that from Bryson

tiller know why cuz he's got a good team and they've chucked all that [ __ ] away somewhere they packaged him he's

packaged and the people bought it and purchased it I'm talking about what's tangible and believed in it so much that

per your words they turn down a novio offer so clearly they had a plan and it

worked good for them that's what that's what all of us are doing we're trying to think of a plan and have it work good

for him Tory's plan has not developed he has a single that is working there not at the

same place in their career but as far as artistry that's what I'm trying to

suggest and you can you know you keep bouncing on both sides you keep your artistry and career that they're not the

same okay me let's strip it because for some odd reason you think an artist making an album is is not a cabal here

but it is let's strip it let's let a plan you know Marty was here hi Marty

for some reason you don't think in an artist making an original album means

something or it's difficult to do but that's not the point let's put first does he keep saying an artist making an

original album because that's a very you as an artist should know it's very difficult to make an

it's real artistry to make an album instead of a mixtape right yeah okay

that point there so let's strip it since for some reason that that's a boy yeah cuz one has an

album when one does it huh it's much harder to make an album than a mixtape

in my line cuz we're talking artist I just don't think that your point applies

to this argument yeah because one as an album and one doesn't know because they both stole from Drake sound what is that gone they

both stole Drake sound so why do you keep referring to Bryson tiller as this almighty original biblical we never

heard it he stole the sound and then he did his version of it soul Tory Lanez

who keep trying to make it legit yeah that's my whole point they both do the

same [ __ ] and one does it better no Joey is it easy I'm not tryna money they make

the same music so is it easier to make a mixtape or an album I'm asking you that as an artist it depends puts your rapper head on it

depends I want you to put your rapper a lot more music to is harder for me to make then an album I mean a more music

like that type of mixtape so it depends so far gone I'm sure a lot went into

that for drape like chicks tape three I know I don't look at it like just a

mixtape I can hear it and tell he put something into it I agree so I'm not just judging in like I'm just

judging with my what my ears hear I'm not judging how they decide to give it to the people I'm not I'm not judging

who they did a deal with publishers were in it I'm just going off what I am

hearing I'm trying to stick to your argument which is we're stripping the success and things that he's done in a

first project because we're not using word our mixtape anymore now we're use your first project verse first project

Tory Lang was using Chicks tape three verses no were you doing first Tory Lanez project ever first first price

until abroad why would we be doing why would we be doing and then make any sense like worries losing me explain to me of

the point in doing that Tory Lanez first project which was from however many years ago 2010

say she doesn't get doesn't and trap so which came out this year yeah so you

have an artist that has one good solid project at the beginning of his career

it took tory lanez ten projects to get to this chicks take three that you love

right now again you would be speaking to what has occurred in each of their paths

we don't know what their team hit that's my that's that's my point that that's my pelvis about what stands

we're not known we know that one what

does that have to do with my point like you wanted touching me isn't that changing my point so so are you gonna talk or what am i talking and then you

kept interrupting me so I continue to but you but I still don't know I was answering cuz I still don't see what

that has to do with the price of tea in China what I'm saying is I don't care about any of the team how you did what

I'm stripping that's not inclusive Tory Lanez it's it's [ __ ] Toronto in 2010 and nobody gives a [ __ ] about Tory about

Toronto or Tory Lanez back then and he's by itself and he's in a basement somewhere and he raps and sings on some

[ __ ] and put it out just trying to break away as a kid that nobody gives a [ __ ] about from Toronto and clearly Bryson

tiller who and we don't know I'm that's my point and Bryson I'm straight project

we're say you're not stripping it by saying project versus project you're not stripping it because one came out in two

thousand and whenever and by listening to it my brain is telling me what occurred with this one Bryson tiller

came out now and by listening to it my brain is telling me what occurred here then it's a false equivalent of things

we don't know so I'm saying straight both projects so maybe things you don't know cuz I stand by behind everything I

just said so I don't lose my brain for argument's sake or I'm not Dumber because of argument wherever what I'm

saying it we're stripping the teams did you keep going back to artistry I can

kill you with all the [ __ ] that he's a Tory hasn't the same Samuel talking about what someone

accomplished and I said telling you about what my ears hear currently it's

not that complicated and I feel like I'm exhausting myself and not getting a

response to valid points I'm making they both come from the drake umbrella they both do the same [ __ ] neither one of

them is Michael Jackson we enjoy both of them we're partial to one more than the other

for whatever the reason be but I'm not gonna take one in 2016 and compare him

him and all that's behind him to

something that came out in 2010 when I'm listening to it and I could hear ain't none behind that you just grind it and I

can identify with that because we all been grinding I'm grinding now like I know what grinding is so I'm not

comparing those projects I wish both of these brothers the best because still people will hear this somehow and

there's and and and and say that I hate either one of them when I really do wish

them both the best and want a feature from both of them but I mean I'll make

my quick closing point they both come from the Drake umbrella they both have that sound they're in the same Lane I

think personally it's much more difficult to create an album of original

music verse a mixtape with a bunch of records that we already love that's my

only point on why I think Bryson tiller is a better artist [ __ ] everything he's accomplishing I'm putting that in there

I think as an artist it's more difficult to create an album of very very very

minimal samples original music no features as your first album verse a kid

that made a mixtape with a bunch of records that we've already heard okay listen to this

closing art and this is my last point I'm off the argument but stemming from the argument how much money me and you

ask friends tell me how much money I would have to pay you to get you in the studio

and give you a list of 10 classic songs and then see what you come up with with

a singer in your I'm sorry I want to know how much money I'd have to pay you to put you in the studio with someone

who can Oh sing and give you a list of and someone who can write and give you a

list of ten classic songs and and you pick one of them today from one of the

producers that can flip these records mm-hmm I mean how much money like how much time I said I have to tell you to

do it too for you to get in there to get it done with studio fees and things of that nature I'm sure cuz you're not a rapper mmm

that's why so you have no incentive into going in their studio and attempting this but I would like to see you attempt

it so I know saying how much would it take to get you to do that uh and and then we can hunt friend and we can

premiere the song right here like we did Marty Monroe well first of all Joe no I think it's a bit of a low I'm not

suggesting this is we're comparing bryson ver story I think I think 100%

bryson can do what Torre did on chicks tape three I don't think off evidence right now Tory can do what tiller did on

that album that's my point there I'm not going in a studio with Lionel go listen to Keyshia you are telling me to listen

the key show on chicks tape reading I like Keyshia you could put keisha one

person to live like we've talked about and if you go to chicks tape to this man

shoot on 16 true - should be honest by some Jill available facetious I actually thought those [ __ ] skits on Tory

Lanez [ __ ] we're mad annoying and stupid but I'm done about the song the one I like you I mean like the horse you leave

your all of [ __ ] but my last point Bryson tiller can absolutely do what

Tory Lanez in on chicks chicks take we have no evidence of that but we have no evidence of that whatever it is we got

it out you just cavalierly saying that [ __ ] when have we seen that an answer yes we

know Bryson tiller can write we know he can sing like that they make this similar music right first of all finish

now when you're incorrect if you're saying I can't write yeah you're right can he sing like that

no you can't hit them no story lane Satan I have to say my range and I can

pull up songs to support my argument huh

tokyo city yeah but but but i can go to evidence of him hitting them ah how they

got to hit him and how they made it sound have you not you know what I mean Bryson's pillars range is not going

where lanes I'm saying do you like the Bryson tiller interlude that he flipped for Drake we've listened

to in your car plenty of times what impressing him to allude that he's

flipped for Drake no no no he flipped a jogger just Nevada loop yeah I do like that it's pretty cool so weiners cue we

have some evidence that Bryson tiller can flip other people's music and make it good we have no evidence that that

Tory Lanez can make original whoa see and that's where you got Tory Lanez [ __ ] up Bryson tiller had somebody

take the sample flip to be the devil to freestyle to freestyle we have evidence

what Tory Lanez is doing on to stage 3 donate freestyles my [ __ ] there's arrangement they are bridges

versus free hooks a whole song flips

like these are arranged we're getting away from no no no no no no we're not going away from [ __ ] you just said we

have evidence that little [ __ ] we don't eat free some evidence there you are cheapening what tory lanez is doing i'm

not sure if you're doing that subconsciously or you're cognizant but you just saying already take your [ __ ]

and doing it so and if that's how you feel then I think that's to each is and how is more difficult but just another

in a little by Bryson tiller which I love is a freestyle over a flip what Tory Lanez is doing on ships tape 3 and

over the TLC scruff [ __ ] on chicks tape to know he's writing and arrange their

songs NES hook his own hooks are on these records not all of them every last

one of them his hook comes right before that hook put put the actual uh sure you got it bad in the mouth and he put his

hook right before it and he put his hook right before it and he put his hook right before it that's a meat takes guts

um but I'm off of this argument cuz I support both of these kids but yeah you

are well is there a spit of evidence that Tory Lanez can do what until he did on traps Oh Oh Judah listen

to Keesha that's one that's one little record back to your [ __ ] tiller on

the drink listen to uh you listen to a yo listen to something oh listen to something oh and listen to

something remix oh come on talking about it bright 20 lanes might do Bryson tiller

better than Bryson tiller if we're gonna refer to the songs that I'm naming so if you want it when we

leave here go have like a song contest cuz I don't think like my favorite [ __ ]

on the Bryson - leash it is don't want the one at the end than I love brand-new

pepper and another one and and all the inner loops like the first four I love

those but I would be you know I would be doing a grave injustice if I didn't say

I wish they were longer I'm not in love with other stuff like y'all I'm just

going back to my point that but race I respect we're what Torre we're so we can't do a Bryson Bryson a niblet or II

did yet and if your brain is telling you that just another inner loop by Bryson

tiller is Bryson's to rise until it version of what Tory Lanez are doing out and we don't need to have this

conversation because there's some error meters you see you took my some evidence and ran with it like you wouldn't

believe that's your only evidence you you keep saying he can do what he can do that's your only evidence of that and

I'm saying we don't have not one actual piece of evidence of [ __ ] Tory Lanez I've just given you six songs what are

you ignoring what I'm saying of course yeah cuz Maddie ain't saying

[ __ ] I'm not even here I think it's kind of unfair to even compare the two and it

kind of goes to his point in a way I think you would have probably had a better argument with Bryson and maybe part in ex parte mom Tory wouldn't

putting album together the access you have is a little deeper than someone who's just working in a studio creating

a mixtape so of course Bryson would be able to create at a better space in an original

sense Tory hasn't been able to create in that fashion yet no three

no there's no I mean he hasn't put out album there's no big budget behind him

putting out Joe just said he knows for a [ __ ] one right now making one now and then we'll see we he delayed we still

ever heard so the points those fans just now also sources read days not tomorrow

Tories records while they are built around samples if you strip this is more than saying I mean of them sis is more

interest to samples there's still pretty cool records I'm not saying they're

great I'm do I am admitting that the sample was a big part of making I would hold a sample but he is obviously a good

writer so you can't really judge the two I think that the bait is kind of flawed in a sense of even comparing the two and

the fact that chicks ape ain't been out but a month and we given this that much attention he hasn't even stood the test of six

months yet we're with homeboy who's put out something he's touring he's selling out tours he's doing a little bit more

than Tory so it's like you know P&D he sold out towards he's done different things he put out multiple projects

maybe that would have been a better argument and he did another another one is somewhere working on his album I'm sure and I know Joe and I it's a fair

point to not put in his accomplishments but I think as an album with artistry

and music to have an album in this era still going from October and it's

peaking higher than it has before amazing I think that's to be said because I think homina I think with bad

music I'm talking music here that generally cannot happen that means they

put something out and it seemed really did work it but the music is there it got haven't put bad music but that only that's not relevant here

because it's not bad music on burn yeah I'm just making the point that right until about Megumi it isn't something

that's noteworthy even in this artistry debate to create an album that is still carrying this much it's peaked at number

nine like that's to be said especially around the albums that it's around Chris

Brown but I don't care any rope any rope on Chris Brown's album that's to be said about his artistry as well that is to be

said about his artistry it finds with Alma I don't care about in it well no it's it's great for him well

no it's a note in making an album Joe I think having music live on after my

saying from October to now is really living on but it's to be said about the music on

the album that it is just picking up so much and more people are listening like how is a really good album I agree with

your point about personally well I can't debate by John Lydon like somebody I like Bryson Toulouse I can

only I don't care about how long it takes for the rest of the world to [ __ ] figure it out if his dope or nut ah David how much time we get my parking

thing aw did I put anything on gee I've gone like an hour over before well it's

a different feeling from it's a different feeling from walking outside and seeing your Mercury Milan is missing

too walking outside and seeing your s550 Mercedes you know really if my Mercury

Milan got told I probably just walk away no I need my car if there is something

to be said it may have to do with price and Tori's appearance cuz those two look

like they might use bevel you know what not that I've been really looking at

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they of that reason it's Tristan it was a oh I do want to say because because

I'm not unlike my to Cole's I'm not that ignorant to what's going on in the

universe as you am a bit perplexed by Sean Penn and El Chapo yeah that was I

don't know why Sean Penn is doing interviews for anybody that's number one

and do you think this is gonna get hand I don't know why El Chapo is doing

interviews for anybody individually word Chappell sir but these

are two gentlemen whom I'm not sure why they are doing interviews separately why

the [ __ ] would you be doing an interview together right so k cool so now they say

the room where hands its Sean Sean Penn was writing a piece for one of the white people magazine was dead that they don't

care about black people and our feelings and our thoughts overall thoughts don't care rollin stalling

I wanted it to be like a biopic but and

it was hooked up by some actors that there that's a mutual friend now don't that sound like somebody who ain't who

ain't really concerned about living jail again know that but it's like he's flaunting like he wants

well he's worth we looked this up last night over four billion dollars so I don't really think

he's I think he can really leave jail whenever he wants to learn pervy on the Sean Penn he went under the [ __ ] bed

hey show differently hey hey hey show up in a Rolling Stone uh is you [ __ ] the

feds man like come on my [ __ ] y'all go give it a go El Chapo yeah I mean we got

pops right afterwards right papa we got caught I'm sad damn but do you think do

you think is gonna get Sean Penn flat [ __ ]

oh listen y'all ignoring catastrophic [ __ ] taking place when God is sending

you signs we're not even two weeks into [ __ ] 2016 people be awake out there

they took El Chapo from us oh my god bbod is over

y'all and I seen we're only two weeks in

and bbod is broken up yeah first the Fat Boys I don't think I think

is easy to let uh the government try to blind you to what's happening in the

society that is real and that really needs our undivided attention but

they've been trying to kill the female rapper and they've been doing a great job of it for a really long time thank

God for Nicki Minaj to come through and break that mold and just when we need somebody to follow her behind the door

that she's so boldly kicked in the [ __ ] take bbod away

come on Mona come on so you know what

Mona I'm watching your little [ __ ] show and I'm a little teary-eyed and upset cuz you take bbod away but I'm a

man and I'm grown so I dust my showed off and I keep watching and then right when there

seemed to be a glimmer of [ __ ] light at the end of the tunnel what happened Joe right when I'm thinking all is right

in the world cuz Peter Gunz is in the studio alone and he is gonna give us what a Mona do

now what do you do Mona just send in the [ __ ] wife to distract a hard-working

man from changing the world with light skins fire we're on a roll was raking

Steph Curry let Peter Gunz contribute what he can exactly what I was thinking

that's what I came in here ready to argue to be honest so even though he

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