The Guy Stuck In A Cave
Joe Budden Podcast Episode 481, “The Guy Stuck In A Cave,” released October 21, 2021. Unlike previous Verzuz recaps, Joe shared his desire to not criticize but appreciate two of Hip Hop's greatest legends (Big Daddy Kane and KRS-One) as they performed their timeless catalogue of hits (15:31). Joe explained the nostalgia he endured while viewing the Verzuz and emphasized how pivotal both emcee's are to the evolution of Hip Hop (29:50). The crew then discuss the viral clip of a young man who attempted to steal another mans car at a gas station which lead to a discussion regarding this current generation not fearing consequences (57:02). Howard University students protest due to alleged poor living conditions (1:37:21), the crew remembers Colin Powell (1:57:18), an update on the Ben Simmons saga (1:58:55) and MORE! Full transcript and searchable timestamps below.

In this episode
- 15:31Unlike previous Verzuz recaps, Joe shared his desire to not criticize but appreciate two of Hip Hop's greatest…
- 29:50Joe explained the nostalgia he endured while viewing the Verzuz and emphasized how pivotal both emcee's are to…
- 57:02The crew then discuss the viral clip of a young man who attempted to steal another mans car at a gas station w…
- 1:37:21Howard University students protest due to alleged poor living conditions
- 1:57:18The crew remembers Colin Powell
- 1:58:55An update on the Ben Simmons saga
Joe Budden Podcast Ep. 481 Transcript
Full transcript of The Guy Stuck In A Cave (2:17:47 long). Search it, or click any timestamp to jump to that moment.
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real talk it's real spill real spill now for real
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yo hold up man let me put my headphones on he can't even contain the potting s
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[Music]
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sometimes when you head back home yeah i mean especially after you know chest poked out up there
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oh yeah after you just dropped the [ __ ] wedding of the century i forgot about that part yeah
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and then your birthday ain't too long after come on man then i'm gonna go up there and stun some i wasn't done
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stunting y'all oh no i thought i was y'all thought i was finished that was a quick two days starting with with my
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lady the wedding it was beautiful but come back for part two of this stunt
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pull back up on y'all out there man coming up going on them again it's crazy
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i see it barks that's a mess you changed nah oh man yeah you jazzied up the pumas
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you bedazzled diplomas dogs oh man body padazzle puma
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crazy oh all right how y'all feeling tired
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come on parks why are you tired break let me hear you oh it was the wedding weekend all over again man i've been drinking for four days straight i'm
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tired good i wasn't sure he would show up
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i didn't know how you came down with that i mean i wasn't drinking that hard it's just when you do it four days in a row
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that's still hard yeah i agree so what else did you do
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[ __ ] and i built the studio upstate made a bunch of music yeah
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cook with your little panel and wayne's coat wall cma yeah whatever that is
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i didn't see no pictures he put some picks up oh no he put picks up oh no no he put picks up like that
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man they scream man i don't think they're probably still up there they were starting to scream man do me a solid
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see if we could find those bad boys somewhere he walked us through gave us a walk through the clock
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brand new studios round of applause let them know it could
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be done could be done i'm telling that's why you got to go back to your home and do it right yo i'm doing this you could
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do it too that he's inspiration to them [Applause] right here i tried to do that they robbed me every
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day oh you back you ain't learning
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oh you got more than one again it didn't go like would
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they kept finding new ways to rob these wolves in jersey city it was [ __ ] 3 p.m i was like all right how about five
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they were like now we out here five too dawg hey all these little traffic lights
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there was a light every couple feet too right i know that ain't who i think it is hey
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come here man give it up stupid ass lights in jersey city they don't even give you at that time they ain't get you to speed right through hey we are going
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to turn green together oh no no they did that on you [Laughter]
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damn [ __ ] i didn't make it through that that's how they are in knock now they changed the lights there was [ __ ] now
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it's you're not hitting all the greens huh yo it's [ __ ] what does that mean
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did i want to go through nothing but green lights yes yeah yes i did okay you don't want to shoot
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with the red light in the hood should i like that one it's hood i like that one it's safe outside i hear my hood i don't
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want to stop at the red light wait [ __ ] they my hood little [ __ ] 15 year olds have not a
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clue joe button is i ain't here to pump it up oh you mean that they ain't got the fail now i got a
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key to the city they don't know about all the great philanthropic work i dumped out
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they don't know about all the philanthropic work i've done out there are you kidding me
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come on man light your ass up you go out there go out to new york talking about y'all i'm ish remember
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yo this is my husband my block right here back in the day remember me yo oh yeah and now stupid these stupid youtube
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algorithms i don't know how they found my phone i don't know what cash register i gave my phone number to that changed
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my algorithms now they're showing me close proximity gang beef
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oh [ __ ] hey they brought the docs right to my iphone as soon as i wake up marrying projects versus such-and-such
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projects i don't need to see that are you still doing that yes in jersey
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city yes in every city yes in every city not every
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some of them in jersey cities yeah not jersey jersey not in jersey city in jersey cities hey
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jerry city certain parts of them cities because it ain't like it used to be before it was damn near the
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whole city nah that marrying them that shit's cost money down there go down there late they still out there
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i've seen them i know i know they out there country yeah
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the truth never comes out about anything the truth isn't important um what you mean yeah tough lesson in
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that it's not the truth nobody cares we're talking about jerry city so i'm thinking about as y'all talking about
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i'm like hey i'm asking myself hey did the truth ever come out about having that guy and a girl that was from
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newark that went to the park and made a drug drug bustle they made a drug deal and then they went up
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ran in the store and then the cops came it was a big shootout somebody got killed right yeah yeah yeah big big big
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shootout up here i remember remember that it was that long ago a couple years i didn't know yeah that's
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yeah remember a couple years ago and we never heard nothing else no that's about it you only get the story you don't get the
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the truth don't matter story so as we talk about jersey city i'm like at that time in that area
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some other things was happening it wasn't just us up there
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at that point nobody said a peep no no it's only the initial story yeah
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it's cool don't worry about it got work to do yes sir we're here check one two one two one two one two
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[Music]
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[Applause] [Music]
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welcome to episode 41 of the joe button podcast i'm your humble gracious grateful and highly favored host joe
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budden that was nasty here with a few really
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cool dudes parks is here ish is here icing ice is here and we have the young boys back there who we'll talk to later
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at some time to see how their weekend went really good all the nights out of here i wouldn't know what they got into oh yeah yeah
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because we never get it no no i need to know you never get an update specifically from last weekend because i
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double r back there yeah don't worry about it we're gonna find out don't you worry
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yeah it's the long island express so i specifically did not talk to any of y'all when i walked in because i want to know i'm waiting
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friday night but but but but but i'm kind of with the young boys and that like friday night sometimes i get
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out of here and feel antsy a bit so friday night when we left work i thought i was going somewhere too till i
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got home and then i got home and [ __ ] felt so good in the house yep yeah and i didn't
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really have a clear plan on what my night was gonna be dolo
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so around ten o'clock i was like nah i'm a chill i'ma reserve my energy and just thought it out tomorrow
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and then saturday came and the same exact thing happened but this time earlier this time at 6 30
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7 00 p.m i was cozy in the house it was raining it's getting cold outside
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and it was raining didn't have a clear path to what the night looks like let's not just go to the strip club and be frivolous but
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rain is just stay in the house and i'll reserve my energy and thought it out sunday where i do kind of have a
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clear plan sunday get my plan together and i go out to my little spot and it's brick city yeah
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freezing freezing it was brilliant it was still upstairs
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and it was called it was like 40 something upstairs it was cold what i saw
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when it was that cold was that the normal crowd wasn't really there now it was just the people young enough to be
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naked and withstand cold makes that crowd a little younger
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she looks a little different and i say oh [ __ ] it's over yeah it's over some results and then i went home right and
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then i went home and was freezing in my house because i
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always keep the air on a certain temperature yes you do yeah i hopped up out of my bed my little naked ass ran
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over that [ __ ] what's the thing of my jiggy the thermostat the thermostat thingamajiggy
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yeah but it's an awkward little walk that you do when you're cold
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but when you're a guy alone in the house cold nude it's the corny way
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think about that walk there try to talk your shoulders together to keep yourself in the shell get yourself together
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what the [ __ ] are you doing can't relate i just say hey siri turn the temperature too and she does it
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a bad batman sorry okay bruce sorry
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you guys living in the past sorry siri gonna learn you trust siri with
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that gonna learn you sorry [ __ ] it with you i'm telling you you're gonna you're gonna be the you you're the reason why
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the chip is coming i'm not putting this you are the reason why you got the chip you would put the chip in oh the circle is coming
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apple make it yeah i did some more research the chip
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is here actually but anyway long story less long i'll never cut the heat on the mouth so when you cut the
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heat on it's really over no you know yes it's over now it's over so how was everybody's weekend
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it's great man that's cool tiring but great great i had a double a double win
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weekend which i love when my football team and my fantasy team both win so uh that's that's dope do you have a
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football team still my [ __ ] is gone i don't even know what happened
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i don't know where they at they finding the sun in i don't know i don't know i don't know my fantasy team won though so
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that was that was big i had the opposite both of them all teams lost but the cowboys won all
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right well we're not going to drive up the vagina with sports but i was just saying i had a good weekend for that cool i ain't do [ __ ] outs i have the
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worst fantasy team in the world i was wondering what you're so serious
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about it because i've avoided all fantasy talk well actually i have two teams in the
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free league my team is a monster handled ray didn't even think about it i worked handled ray
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easily bye-bye ray right and ray was the raise the monsters he's the monster
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i could have [ __ ] i said ray was a bump yeah ray was a bummer but in my money league
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damn he called that league to freedom
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he said oh 250 is cool y'all sound like yeah i'm trying to do a fight y'all won't let
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me part y'all sound like me and corey went to my dad i was here go to court hey pop you'll play you gonna play spades no
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more let him get my he threw that alley up for my dad to get all his son
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frustration off no joey ain't got time to play no more you know anytime play no more with his
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career and all of that oh he just let it go no no he let that hammer fly he let that hammer fly yeah
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so my head i just had to sit there and take it but it's like these [ __ ] don't be wanting to play
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for no money so that's what's like that y'all don't want to play with nobody y'all want to play a little a little cutesy little but anyway i could kill
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cole beasley now that's if the feds are watching i
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don't mean that i yo cole beasley man when i set him he
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kills and when you play him he don't do [ __ ] and they be putting up points but wait
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that remember wait the red throws in my way and we're gonna get off of this and we're gonna get off because we're not starting with fantasy football for real
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this is what i hate cole beasley was never a thought in my brain because of how he's been
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performing yeah i was playing waddle no matter what oh yeah no matter what i was playing waddle
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in my money league and i woke up sunday morning to go put waddling
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yo every year the [ __ ] london game gets me [ __ ] yo that's some [ __ ] because i'm too busy to watch tv during
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the year so you got to be watching friday and saturday night london
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i'm too busy to check up on the [ __ ] the london guy i'm sorry i'm sorry dawg i can't i missed it i'm glad i did you
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said wado in both leagues in my other league i didn't need to worry about that
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and i sent him because i only trust him with two is there got it but as soon as i got word two was back it's waddle time
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so now he's locked now i gotta sit there and choose between cole beasley who's done nothing at all
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and najoku and van jefferson
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i went with najoku because i believed in cleveland i believe in cleveland a little bit and
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every time you believe in them they don't show up for the big game the big game it's like the chargers herbert
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14 points thanks i lost by six oh [ __ ] i lost by six justin herbert 14 points big
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game lamar jackson ravens you don't show up big game champion big game y'all still my man but
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that's the bumps you got to go to the buyers prime time you in baltimore that's a time dude you play facing over
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there that's real [ __ ] i agree but anyway [ __ ] lamar jackson ain't doing that either even with that
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great game he got 11 points i was nervous for a minute justin herbert is my fourth round pick i
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need more than 12 points and i was favored to beat bomb ass ja rule by 60 points
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yes kareem hunt went down uh yeah his kicker had 17 arizona's kicker
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prayer what else don't make me put my phone down get mad man because something else went i was just
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about to ask you what jaw team doing oh wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait i joke i was gone so the cleveland game double whammy kareem hunt goes down and the joker don't do
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nothing they only scored 14 points or 7-4 whatever they did seven points it was bad yeah come on man
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i'm out of here come on we gotta start yeah let's start you gotta start i don't want you getting mad at this versus yeah hip-hop ks1
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krs one big daddy kane sunday night
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didn't really like the slotting of it yeah i'd hate it i love this slotting of it i know and we'll find out your reason
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shortly i hated the sliding that should have been saturday yeah they had that big super cat
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performance on saturday they made a big weekend out of it hopefully i thought it was a surprise was opening up for them no yeah i realized that obviously
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ice why did you love this lighting tell us now actually so we could yeah let's get your [ __ ] right out the way let's get you right out the way at the
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top at the top it gave me a reason to not watch and you was nodding your head to nice and smooth
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well i knew i wasn't watching but i didn't want to just come in and say i did i did nothing and not watch but you schedule it at the same time steeler
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football is on oh great now i got an excuse i damn i'm mad i didn't know the versus what's happening because i was
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watching the steeler game i missed it so so y'all tell me how it was because i didn't see it i was watching still again
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it was [ __ ] beautiful you wouldn't want to see it anyway well i would have wanted to see it had i known if the steelers wasn't playing at that time i
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shut up you didn't want to see it this is hip-hop hip-hop royalty right and this is why i grilled him like that at
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the top of this hip-hop royale to you okay i didn't see it it wasn't dirk versus
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dirk is not doing the version but if he did you would have stopped that steelers game what happened
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what everyone else said and they gonna say who you know what's funny
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y'all putting a lot of pressure on dirk to perform you academics it's a fuel y'all what do you mean i'm not putting
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pressure on dirt y'all putting a lot of pressure on him to put up uh jordan numbers kobe numbers real
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early no y'all got fans to do it but anyway come on we're not talking about that right now cause kane krs won sunday
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night sunday evening i'm freezing my ass off outside dying to get out of there and i'm like
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fam i could be just go home and watch kane and karis one i didn't miss the first 20 minutes i missed it missed the first 20
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minutes um and by the time i got it on see the opening is my favorite part to
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see because it tells me it tells me what i need to know i need to see the energy i need to see how we're introduced to
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opening songs your first exchange publicly i know y'all been talking behind the scenes but publicly who's
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going to stick to the script who's not that's what i like to see so i missed that so by the time i clicked it it was
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pandemonium already that roof had already exploded off of that building so what
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do you do you retract your statement a little bit well yeah by default i have to okay by
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default statement by default i have to say krs1 was gonna mop him up oh he would know his statement was why is this
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even happening because remember he kept playing the y yy yeah yeah yeah yeah like i mean that's something that's not good
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one money boy but you said you think krs won he hasn't care as well but it was close but kane
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showed out it was close yo you rappers are trying to shut up because i got killed last time i said it but boy the rappers are doing their best to kill
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botany they doing their best to do it who did it now everybody ah we all we
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all to blame okay we all to bring but it's all of us really i'm selling [ __ ] too but he's
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just getting that money [ __ ] what you talking about no no couldn't do that before they're going through it but anyway go
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ahead but anyway nah i think it was a little i said that because of the fat joe best i know oh you looking like you haven't yes
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but that's why both take us though because if you don't know what it is you just don't know what it is but i just know what it is so i keep seeing it
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like that was the first thing i said when i opened verses i said look at big daddy king
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god damn i got a question for you bottega down look at the hat
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look at it he's a little clean big daddy kane look is that like that [ __ ] yeah
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and immediately i was impressed and just smiling my teeth was showing yeah joe
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question you said you're seeing football you're interrupting hip-hop yes i am you said you're seeing botega kind of
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everywhere now do you think it's a situation where like like you know if you buy a new car and
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then you start to recognize the car everywhere no not you because you don't see your car but i'm
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just saying it's you don't see bottega like that in the general republic either but i'm saying he might be seeing it
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more because he started wearing it more true so now you're right you're in the bottega store now you're recognizing
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more bottega doesn't necessarily mean people are now jumping on it you just recognizing it more that's what i was
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asking or do you think they're jumping on it afterwards and i'm not saying i'm because they misconstrued it last time i
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said it and they thought i was saying that i was responsible for the wave of bottega and that's not what i was saying
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my what i'd be talking about is moving the goalposts so i'll see some [ __ ]
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weird and [ __ ] just say oh my god that's horrible and corny and then i'll see the
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rest of hip-hop do the same thing and get applaud that's what i kind of was talking about uh okay back then but now i don't know i
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don't believe that because i know women who who was on botega early and they mad
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they typed they like got it now what we gonna do now everybody know what it is it's kind of blah blah before it
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was like i would try to show somebody some [ __ ] and if they didn't recognize it like i don't know about that
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that's how i go with all this [ __ ] though so until it's popping they don't see that's the funny that's the phony [ __ ] though
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because if it's ugly it's ugly i don't give a [ __ ] 70 000 that [ __ ] ain't popping that ain't
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popping ish there is no ugly in my opinion there's if it's popping or is it not popping there's no other that's a
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clean suit that big daddy gang got on mm-hmm but that's why pink and red even that
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that's beautiful example a person a person that they don't like right now has that same suit on they
- 21:16
don't think that that's fire i disagree i'm telling you we see it i don't want to continue to speak about
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compassion when big daddy came and cares one just took place but
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big daddy kane's fashion is one of the first things i noticed and keras one fashion was one of the
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first things i noticed because that's how carrots wanted to know anytime i've ever it was true
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no it was true to formula it was fun yeah exactly graffiti on the t-shirt
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big daddy kane was the suave killing you style suit silk suits with
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the rope chain and and krs-1 was the epitome of street hip hop right the second thing i took
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away from me and i'll toss it to you two gentlemen shortly but the hip-hop is oozing out of my soul
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i can't contain myself i stopped hearing the beats early in my
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viewing that's how much of a clinic i thought those two were putting on yeah
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i knew the beats of course i know the beats right and i'm not i'm not here to get into i
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wasn't going to let my consumer ears trick me into hey how did this beats how does this beat
- 22:28
sound now what are they doing now i didn't want to get into all that their breath control up there both of
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them they're like uh showmanship like emceeing their ability
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to mc like that building was packed they did it different ways too though someone started falling off toward the end now
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krs was just doing more crowd interaction [ __ ] which as a viewer watching it on instagram or something like that you don't really hear it
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but i'm sure at the show it was much doper it was probably but then kane was up there as far as breath control he was
- 22:59
clean getting through all his verses all the fast [ __ ] all the fashion yeah yeah 120 bpm the whole time
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good to go also he was doing all of that yeah and telling us right hey man i know they killed these bpms
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you don't do this no more but this is how you do this like whoa and then i'm in the comments
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i'm seeing pusha t i'm seeing all the all of the dudes out there but really as i'm watching kane for me
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the first person i thought of was hope of course of course the first person i thought of that makes sense
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and then i just go down the family tree and then with krs one um
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damn who the [ __ ] did i think of but oh he was hugging buster rhymes he was hugging busting rhymes he was just hugging some of the og's same with kane
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and i'm like well yeah these are the og's these are oh geez look at the ogs are looking at the ogs i like to see that right
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i love to see that that's lineage and they went up there and showed exactly why even still all of these
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years later i was just impressed i was this is the first time i wasn't going i wasn't
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hearing the verses i was not here in a verse it was just i was too busy learning oh yeah yeah i was it wasn't i
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wasn't thinking about this won't be that nice at all at all at all they were asking me afterwards
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how do you think it went i know you said this but you seen what happened i can't tell you right cause i was engulfed
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engaged i was being taught yeah none of i was being too i was being
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too grateful nothing in my life damn near as possible if these two dudes don't go do that
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so while it wasn't many of us watching on instagram like when i was there was 110 of us i watched it for a little bit
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cause i had to go do some family [ __ ] so i wanted to still watch it i watched it so i was on ig it was 110 000 us in there
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but boy the quality of those people and just the appreciation and even in the building when they was doing the call
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and response and the crowd was it was just electric for me yeah it was it was and this was the first time
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that i had the option to that they showed me the thing thingamajiggy where uh they wanted me to pay because i did
- 25:07
try to turn it on on the fight app i paid the triller fight app i watched it on trailer i watched on trailer i didn't
- 25:13
have to pay no i paid i think it was three dollars or something 2.99 yeah 299
- 25:18
it was a real good price okay real good price i paid that i paid the trillion was free still i think
- 25:23
i didn't pay nothing you might even ignore us huh you might have been on ig with us no i was on
- 25:30
trailer on the uh laptop oh i've never tried it yeah me too overall just a real electric experience
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for me uh all the features that came out all of that [ __ ] was though yo this was heavy just came out this was
- 25:43
hip hop history again for someone like me i didn't see what features like uh effects came out came out
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uh oh that's why you okay um who else came out uh uh um channel live dude
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channel live came out um buckshot buckshot show came out
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uh i saw i saw roxanne take out up there for a little minute oh yeah
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the whole well minus cool g juice group came out that was the only thing that was disappointing it's like damn cool she
- 26:11
didn't come out dawg the symphony coochie right they said kooji rap they tried to get kuji rap for both people
- 26:17
that he declined yeah uh master ace came out came out
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somebody else in that in the symphony but it still was a rap hip-hop clinic it was like a show like
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if you paid to go to this it was almost like going to a concert you got a couch absolutely like going to it you got to you got a concert
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like capri was dj in scratch so the djinn was [ __ ] david they started top-notch showing a little back and
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forth [ __ ] okay i lost my mind when nice and smooth came out i lost my mind when nice and smooth came
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out and then looking at smooth b i thought i thought jay-z again like i just thought things today at 40 that i
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would have never i wasn't able to think back then like
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just that presence yeah and just being aura all of these guys had to be the
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lyrical guy at that time yeah like [ __ ] wasn't playing with smoothby i tweeted it
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people wasn't playing with smoove b's pin back then my young brain knew that
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he was the guy and as i grew up that never changed same with kane like when you have to be the guy fam that that guy
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big daddy can't tell him he said uh something about the juice crew wanted
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him to shoot at at krs he lucky i spared him oh yeah
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he said some little slick [ __ ] like they were saying a little slick [ __ ] back and forth which kept the versus energy
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but at the end of the day it was a hip-hop show it was like a classic hip-hop show yeah they were telling stories about
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holly uh they can't help krsna's movie no then i told you the story i said it on a podcast a couple weeks ago he told
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that story he said yo my very first apartment outside my mother's crib miss melody rest in peace and krs-1 help me
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move my couch my tv my bed into that spot like so while they were shooting at each
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other there was like generally love and camaraderie for each other like that you could just see kuji rap would
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be the outlier right i was mad that he didn't come there and i'm not gonna lie you know i
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ain't my tops you know that [ __ ] you're in everybody's house
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i mean but no this is dope red alert came out yeah it was dope it was dope but again a lot of these young cats
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don't even know crazy the whole b-boy crew that was they don't know what that is oh my god
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come on man they don't know what that is red alert damn they're 70 bro it said it saddens me that uh and i ain't not to be
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the old guy what did neil degrasse call me the guy stuck in the cave
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damn you lying yeah that's what he scienced this dude neanderthal
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[Laughter]
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tell me why i am neil okay captain and he did tell me but i still disagree with him
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you forgot i forgot what i was saying before that
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he was talking about red alert and crazy legs oh it's sad it saddens me
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that the newer the newer generation and the younger kids
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[ __ ] not have an appreciation because they missed it they didn't go back i'm not going to be that cave man but it saddens me that they don't at least
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speak more to having gratitude that this pathway exists
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because because i must be people that that's true but some are a predecessor is that their fault i don't know i don't care i didn't
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realize okay okay my brain didn't even get i don't got it i'm not assessing okay i don't know it's just i'm just saying
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how i feel and it just saddens me i think i think i damn neal was brought to tears watching this [ __ ] like i'm sure
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what the [ __ ] do i do what do you do without them them
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and those two and krs one said it too he said yo it wasn't that many jokers it was him
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rakim rock kim big daddy kane and slick rick is the four that he named
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i think he said cool g2 i don't think so but i know is one of them but yeah
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undoubtedly it's one of them but again dawg and kuji rap came out later he came later but when i was in elementary
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school these [ __ ] wasn't playing right so again fam nothing there's no jay-z without
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them there's no dmx without them that's how old you are anywhere i didn't have to remember that coochie rap came later too
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said i know he didn't
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is correct
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as far as hip hop is going like jay-z is a billionaire kanye west of billionaires right there's none of that without these
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[ __ ] no doubt look at the path that hip hop has paved right for just black entrepreneurs
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right like that's something we take lightly but hip hop is opening the door for a lot of black wealth hip-hop has become a global
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force but i'm just saying but for blacks like urban blacks that wouldn't have had
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potentially another way to make no bread hip hop is that vice versa for a lot of [ __ ] and that's why i agree
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like that's amazing my [ __ ] like you gotta applaud these [ __ ] and that's why it saddens me because look at all
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the things that had to happen for some of our legends to be appreciated correctly or get a bad swiss gotta get
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with timberland and they gotta go get with apple and then wait till that deal is up and then go get with trilla they
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need to come up with this amazing concept i like this show proof of concept the set was dope and now
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well that's kind of what i was saying now we're here when i ask you to ask some [ __ ] when i ask you is it their
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fault like it it takes something like this here to kind of teach this to the to the kids because
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like somebody young have no idea and where would they learn it from i got you though but once you get engulfed in the
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culture right it's like again charles barkley in them when i tell you them [ __ ] worship
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the bill russells they worship the dr jays like they pay homage to them like
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that's their dad right and that's dope when you hear shaq talk to them shaq calls them mister he'll be like that's
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one removed i'm talking about but listen no no no when you go from i'm talking about like
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a rookie today hip-hop was bad for some of us man to be the guy no it's true but
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i thought it as i was watching them yes so so so what i'm saying is once you
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become a part of hip-hop in my opinion you got to go listen to old hip-hop rappers that's how you get sharper i
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disagree with that they don't have to do that but and they won't do well what i'm saying is once you become become a part of an ever evolving
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hip-hop because that's important the hip-hop that let's say i start rapping today mm-hmm the hip-hop today
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drake is an og correct so which is why you hear these young dudes say wayne future drake are the
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that's the [ __ ] beginning you get what i'm saying they don't know anything before that so that's why i say
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is it their fault because where are they going to learn it from how are they even going to know to go look up big daddy
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king you don't there's no there's not no there's no hip-hop like library there's
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no hip-hop encyclopedia there's no where do they go to if someone wanted to
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become a fully a full student of the game if they looked up big daddy kane i'd be mad that they didn't look up clark kent like that wouldn't that get
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what i'm saying like satisfy me you you wouldn't what you're saying but that's for the dj's to do i agree with ice and
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and what you all are discussing but what i get from what is she's saying which i agree with even though he didn't say it
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is i just feel there should be some type of responsibility to be had by
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by the participants i agree with y'all but i'm saying if let's use myself if i was to come in if i'm a
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young dude trying to come in and rap where how do you begin to even research it
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you get what i'm saying like i stare the they're the tech generation youtube got everything i'm saying it wrong what
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there's no lane for them to just go and say yo we know this came from this from this
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from this from this from this but when you'll start saying 50 grand where they're influenced by that's where
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they go these cats go to wayne these cats go to drake so that's why i said we it took
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something like this here to teach them this is we didn't have this one that was
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dope so it took versus it was it was it was a walk down memory lane again a lot of these kids wasn't even born look at
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the crowd yo this was such a crap oh no you seen the old heads in the crowd this is for a word
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i'm talking about white boys who's in the crowd word for word like going multi-syllable
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i seen girls in the crowd bro work mouthing every single word i know but
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you saw it in a militant fashion it was militant and that speaks to the crowd control
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that speaks to what they were doing from the stage that's what was emanating what if that's the word i'm looking for
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that's that's that was from them look at this like that crowd even buckshot is an old
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head to these
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like they've been saying it ain't really this is a celebration this is a true celebration right here it's a
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celebration this is [ __ ] getting they that's what versus kind of turned into [ __ ] getting they flowers [ __ ] this
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is when young person watch this this is a history lesson for you in real time
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like these [ __ ] was yo bro again like y'all said i ain't crazy i'm gonna cut you off like you said you
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seeing pusha t you know you're seeing cats that the younger cats do know
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in the comments blown away it's like okay these are who they looked up to this is a this is a crazy [ __ ]
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a lot of these guys pusha t uh kanye hove if you go back and listen to kane
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and chris records you'll hear mad bars that people reuse and recycled
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and flipped all the new [ __ ] the whole [ __ ] watching that [ __ ] they do you damn near could wrap half of it and never
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have heard the song because it'd be a whole punchline a whole chorus a whole song somebody else
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that's true wanna keen [ __ ] no you're just such a journey for me man just and
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even again i keep saying in what what i think today versus what i thought then look at fat joe amazed
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we're like we all should be but anyway [ __ ] uh like when when i get the job done came on
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uh kane boy was i happy to hear that song right but when that song came out me as a
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[ __ ] nine year old or how old i was at that time i was just jamming
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and i was like oh [ __ ] kane's on the radio i'm jamming awesome i love kane he should be there
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today i hear
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an act trying to get a single out definitely that's what i hear today definitely
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and then i come to greater understand what his plight was all of them back then
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as a lyrical guy trying to get a radio single out with
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no internet no whatever it's funny is you versus
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rock him it's you versus it's you versus g-rap character
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slick rick hey hey the greatest adventures of slick rick just dropped that's that's a hard thing
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your move your move that's what i'd be thinking about when that happens because i'd be joking
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around just from my error with like it was probably too speaking of errors and when he said
- 38:44
something to the effect of you had an album out i only had a single out you had more money i could only say yo you
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have money i could only drink heinekens back then but like that thought process isn't it
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doesn't really work like that single might be you might be more financially
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drinks but i wasn't knowing hennessy yet cause he was like yo you was a hennessy [ __ ] like no no not yet i was still
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drinking high in the kids like that's crazy the nostalgia that they you know what i mean that they
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share that [ __ ] was crazy the history what those eyes have seen
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who they look up to like my brains just my brain goes down a rabbit hole when
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dudes when when that's happening it's bonnie gian i was real glad that i saw this
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i was real glad that i was wrong about whatever i said going into it whatever i said going into it thank god
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i was wrong and thank god i was stupid enough to be wrong and not even think about the [ __ ]
- 39:53
the awe that i would just be in and just the lessons and just the gratitude with that space that
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that feeling that took over me let me i'm gonna shut up because i don't think so many of y'all should they're not
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gonna share that with me but it's something it's a lot to do though don't get it [ __ ] up there's a
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lot there's a lot that no there are i'm just saying but he a rapper you get him saying like i'm not going to
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look at it in the same capacity there he going to look at it because i don't rap i'm just a fan of music and i was
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outside when these [ __ ] was running around right so he looking at it differently though it's like
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[ __ ] raps right so again they paved the way for every rapper today yeah
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literally yeah like no not no no you're not exaggerating i'm talking about literally they paved the way for every
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single rapper today so that rappers today can't outrun that way no they can't i was with
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rappers control rappers some of my people in oh my are watching this [ __ ] and they're just like brother he's going
- 40:51
kane is going crazy okay and they didn't necessarily nor did i necessarily grow up on it we went back
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to certain [ __ ] but and that's where i was wrong coming into it because coming into it i was thinking about records and
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songs right and some people are just greater than their catalogue
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could ever display that's what they was killing they was like yo like people that are my age on twitter on instagram
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was like yo came about to get busy in here like jokers with his aura was that of him of jay-z he's
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really him right he's like his aura was like jay-z right if you had to compare him to somebody he was
- 41:27
yesteryear's jay-z right as far as stardom like he was a superstar
- 41:32
and you that you get points for that like you can't discredit that you know what i
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mean like i don't care what he up there saying you can't discredit that and a [ __ ] was a rapper rapper bro
- 41:44
like all the technical and lyrics all of that fat light world yeah yeah and now i'm you know what now
- 41:51
from this point moving forward and i knew this already but you're gonna shut up thank god you get to have things
- 41:57
reaffirmed for you from this point moving forward i will assume anyone that is locked in my top
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15 of all time to farewell in these hmm yeah yeah because they made it to your
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top 15 for a reason right they're there they're there right that's a good point that's it
- 42:17
like we don't need to keep being surprised that jadakiss keeps popping up him right right
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why do we keep getting oh [ __ ] he's a murderer no no no he's been there
- 42:31
i mean we can even kind of i don't want to put him in that that that top 15 realm but he close even if he had no i'm
- 42:38
just saying even when we went to go see john like [ __ ] really forgot what job was doing in the early 2000s until he
- 42:43
got up on that stage and he was like see and that that's what made me love versus i forgot that right there i forgot and
- 42:49
we were there right we were there and it was like i forgot i forgot that when vita ran out
- 42:55
on that stage and them [ __ ] went nuts she was like i forgot that yeah
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came out bro that's crazy think about that oh i had a cd store tape store that
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was right down the block from my school and the same way now every friday i just
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browse through [ __ ] that i have no idea what it is that's what i did in the record store every time back then every tuesday every tuesday
- 43:18
well i did it every day just because i didn't know nothing about when things dropped i just went in there to peek around and think about high school i was
- 43:24
going on two days every single tuesday saying the hell is this everybody buy one cd go with the homies they get some other [ __ ] you know you get the tape
- 43:30
because you can record tapes back there record the tape or you don't have enough you got enough for one cd and one tape
- 43:36
you know enough for two cds no it wasn't ocd's when i was a kid we was taped so you put the little stuff in oh that's how yeah when dance effects came out
- 43:44
i as a young boy went and bought batteries
- 43:50
for my boombox and took it outside was i [ __ ] called straight straight up suicide
- 43:55
that was the name of the album i don't remember i don't remember because they remember they used to be coming from the sewer i don't think
- 44:00
about suicide straight straight up suicide like they played on sewage yeah there we go that was the
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name but i took my boombox and went outside and just walked i just walked while
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somebody hit the album yeah playing i was blown away you're scared to walk with your radio [ __ ]
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[Laughter] i can run fast i could run fast you have
- 44:37
to catch catch us me and my right those are just classic but i'm just saying how i felt it was so nostalgic bomb skippity
- 44:43
pops until they started talking about the verses but that's what made me want to appreciate them even more because it's
- 44:50
like hey those of us that didn't get to 20 songs true
- 44:55
some of them are still left yes i was so mad nice and smooth didn't get
- 45:00
get more songs i was heated when the wick went off i was like no
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no they're supposed to go crazy right now hip-hop junkies come on here
- 45:11
but sometimes time might give these [ __ ] in hip-hop even if you don't have 20
- 45:17
songs you played a major part it's hip-hop in your era and yeah yeah i want to keep seeing
- 45:23
dudes come out like bring special ed out yeah bring kwame out brand new bring them all out [ __ ] bring brand new
- 45:29
being out epmd you got to get a verses to it something come on man these people are still here yeah we're still here
- 45:36
bring the death squad out yeah come on man i mean i'm with it come on
- 45:42
man rest in peace guru one more time rest in peace guru one more time wow what a clinic what a clinic i was
- 45:48
honored to watch i keep saying i know you all think versus be paying me they don't
- 45:54
it's one of my favorite ideas of all no no no this is one of my music favorite
- 46:03
i'm tired of new york versus that's it that's it i i there's so much else out there i would love to see that's true
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come on go to houston no they're not gonna do that well i think they're gonna do that but what i'm saying is the
- 46:16
current the current people that i think you talking about i don't think i'm not even talking about no i'm saying you can
- 46:21
go like i see bunbee doing this against hudo you know scenarios i'm they
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can put it together no that's what i'm saying like so cj has to come trying to get
- 46:34
three six versus bone thugs since this started he's been trying to get that i believe
- 46:39
you what you it's
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yo we don't have to watch it we're just not gonna sit here and act like a a three six slash juicy j and bone thug
- 47:01
[ __ ] wouldn't sell out a [ __ ] uh where though that's the thing where where would you wherever they are
- 47:07
disagreeing with you but it goes into business after yeah i'm with charlotte new york yo you got big
- 47:13
daddy kane and [ __ ] sells that idea to people who don't
- 47:19
necessarily understand what you're saying but you can't get the money to do so without them yeah so you're saying
- 47:25
what y'all saying but i think you're sleeping on the uh uh value of of those two groups we're not i'm not i'm
- 47:31
not talking about culturally their value i think they can sell out [ __ ] show they have hit records they have lot both
- 47:38
it's strategic though wherever it would be i'm not i'm fam i'm a bone thugs guy i'm saying me too
- 47:45
give me the bone thugs hits it's a bunch crossroads
- 47:50
for the love of money uh first of the month for yeah first of all um notorious thoughts notoriously
- 47:58
uh that's where we slowing down no no i'm running off the top of the head me too but that's why i asked i didn't ask
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because i don't know the answer but that's why i asked if i told you to give me because off the top of the head
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you heard what i said before we went into this so i don't want to say that again okay um
- 48:14
after five or six you slow down a bit you will to the business people they wouldn't
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know the five or six if i'm saying they don't know nothing about nothing you're gonna have a hard time convincing
- 48:26
them of that i know this because i saw what happened when they threw the idea out of nori and beans
- 48:32
and i know what that would be like trying to go pitch it to those same people that's why we haven't gotten it there's a few of them that they've been
- 48:38
floating around that we haven't got that we as purists would love that's true that tells me and that's what i'm saying
- 48:43
the trouble that they may or may not be going through over there to get certain things done that's why they hold and
- 48:49
bust the rhymes in the talk they're holding some of the people that they could get this done busting rhymes
- 48:54
done and you're getting busted rounds done in a hard city anywhere anytime it's not hard to
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explain yeah you gotta let's just find the right opponent and hold it in the tuck buster's at every one of these events that's not for no reason mm-hmm
- 49:07
you could have busted around see what he said anyway when he pulled him up on the saturday [ __ ] he did his first saturday
- 49:12
and then before he stopped this verse he said yo find me a worthy vote versus opponent enjoy hey mike hey bus bus you said that
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for real hey buster came out a year ago and said t.i you can leave 50 alone what's up buster he said that i said no yeah he
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did it just said no i think they haven't it's gonna be a long day for somebody my point is that um
- 49:32
yes and no no bus is gonna be a long day they i'm hearing rumors about bus buster
- 49:37
and missy maybe you've been beating that a possibility i've i've heard buster is not giving missy ellie the long day i
- 49:44
don't know if that's gonna happen that should not happen i hope that everybody stops saying
- 49:49
because of her r b bag a long day anybody else rappers any of you rappers yeah long day coming for you versus is
- 49:55
not videos so y'all could stop saying that yes buster and missy make the greatest videos in hip-hop i get it
- 50:01
stylistically yes artistically stylistically it's not true because
- 50:06
cut the videos off missy elliot has songs that's what i'm saying that's not what
- 50:12
he's saying i'm saying this is a terrible matchup buster versus missy because versus is not videos
- 50:18
if it was a video battle okay cool you can do that that's what i'm saying this is saying
- 50:24
because it's songs they shouldn't match up they're good they don't matter them too much buster's a rapper sonic league missy's written
- 50:31
too much she's a [ __ ] r b act as well like it's it's producer they're not even
- 50:37
see but i don't think missy is fair for really nobody might as well just give us missing a little kim just give us that's what i was saying the only person i
- 50:42
could see yeah that's the only one for me to make sense because little kim has the catalog to be able to stand there yeah she knows yeah to stand in it just
- 50:49
to stand there stand there and listen the only person i can see missy says it's a long night for kim no i'm saying missy is gonna it's a
- 50:55
long night for anybody that goes against missy absolutely i agree with that but the best chance not kim anybody would be
- 51:00
kidding anybody i agree with that yeah kim can speak within people that makes it kim can withstand that and shoot back
- 51:06
yes that's why she's the only one that makes sense she could until them other records come on yeah yeah
- 51:12
until the other records come on yeah and it's a little quite a few of the other records
- 51:18
that's the queen that's the queen no this is going to become
- 51:26
even when the other records come on whatever the [ __ ] she wants to play come on oh yeah he's different okay
- 51:32
okay i was outside i managed i
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i was shooting smoke and [ __ ] fighting robin i was growing up when little kid came out
- 51:54
no i'm saying i'm just saying i wasn't obedient by the time little kim came out i wasn't so just tell me the
- 52:00
instructions speaking of that let me read some [ __ ] that i read real quick where's my phone at
- 52:06
and then we can move on did you watch the uh the opening thing
- 52:12
with the dj battle that was dope too scratching yeah no no uh it was unknown djs or up and coming djs that uh
- 52:21
did like a competition i just thought it was dope that it was an all-encompassing hip-hop
- 52:26
show is that the battle that they were talking because remember they were saying before they were trying to do some type of uh
- 52:33
thing for someone to win and become the dj the official dj4 versus oh maybe i didn't see what the prize was
- 52:40
now we're promoting the triller concerts
- 52:54
we need one for that one off my not so instructional thing real quick uh got this from d.o hugely shout
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out to him friend of the show he says curse words coming potential sponsors
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nine to five is [ __ ] unpaid lunch breaks are [ __ ] working all day to go home and have two hours of free time
- 53:12
before bed is [ __ ] five day work week is [ __ ] working yourself to death is [ __ ]
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retiring at 65 while unlikely it's [ __ ] starting adult life in debt from stool
- 53:26
loan student loans is [ __ ] giving kids seven hours of school and then homework
- 53:33
to ready them for the never-ending grind is [ __ ] it is so frustrating that we have one
- 53:39
chance at life on this earth and humanity chose taxes and credit scores and pollution instead of floating in the
- 53:45
ocean and eating fruit and hanging out [Laughter]
- 53:53
that last part was inspired by design for sure yeah that was his eye talking yeah yeah um
- 54:00
how that was designed he's dead ass right oh he's worried what i'm just saying you come up with that
- 54:05
part while you're off the sideline ocean with
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just pull it right in the water with them but the fruit fam and water you think men got egos now if
- 54:25
you take capitalism off the planet how you think all the men it would be 300 it would be a purge
- 54:32
all of us would think we we could get it get them over our spot in the water i'm going to tell you i'm gonna have
- 54:38
them with me what i'm gonna have dingies around my shirt come on fam yo
- 54:44
whoo yeah it's not even fear it's not fair my [ __ ] would have the grass skirts form
- 54:50
what's up you need a little grass you're cold blanket or something my [ __ ] would be lit back then what i don't doubt myself
- 54:57
in no generation that you put me in well neither that's after the ancestors do the real grind
- 55:04
get us out of the mud no no that and then that one
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well i would be the one to die i'm acclimating to wherever i'm at [ __ ]
- 55:20
well i'm i'm looking at me in this life so i know what will happen in that life i call myself sitting here on the
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podcast getting info back here bringing it over here letting the good people know coming up with a plan together unionizing working in concert to maybe
- 55:32
get to a greater goal you see how my years man so imagine that back then so back then
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we all just gonna be dugging it out i'm gonna think i could take one in white [ __ ] my brain's gonna start
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working i could think i could handle one of them white [ __ ] somebody gotta
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and i'm gonna get shot with a bow and arrow i'm your man my [ __ ] we gonna get this
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back that's some hoes well thank god we don't think about it
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we can't go down i know i'm 45 i'm 45 or 25 good boy man with
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some abs and some pull-ups shout out to big daddy kane shout out to carous one shout out to super cat again shout out
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to uh timberland thank you thank you free
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thank you just thank you kick the prehead bars for scratch thank you for that night and thank you for everything
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and all of it everything in all of it it's true that's what i got that [ __ ] was good that's from the entire joe
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budden podcast minus ice no no i said thank you minus ice that's this side over here hello cuz i keep saying that
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before that fans be like yo the joe button podcast said i'm like that's just nice
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only only i just didn't [ __ ] on anything let me go ahead and text me yo dawg that was ice
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that's all you take from me that was ice again again and i'm joking i'm joking i'm
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joking of course i seen the uh the [ __ ] with the dude at the gas station and um i believe it was atlanta i did not where dude tried to he
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tried to he tried the car well not the car jack because the guy wasn't in the car load pulled up to the gas station to get
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some gas and jumped out real quick jumped out went wherever he went maybe to a store a young dude walked up hopped
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in the car and was about to peel off it was about to drive off and my man
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came back right up had a gun on him pointed at him young dude got out the car
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you couldn't hear what was said but you could tell by his demeanor that it was like some apologetic yo my bad now they
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said he talked to him for 45 minutes when the clip ended it cut right at dude
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putting his arm around the dude and walking off and that's what led me to wonder like what happened next but then we
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heard then we heard actually i'll play with her y'all can talk about it go ahead so basically it was a kid though
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like what really [ __ ] me up was the boy was little like in size i don't know how old he was
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but he looked mad small he looked young and my man was driving a black benz he jumped out
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left you know you leave your car running like haphazardly right the little boy just like went jumped in it my man ran back over
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there with a gun that ends badly yeah if the older dude
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didn't have the heart of mind to school them so he takes him out the car he puts arm around him go walk with him so of
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course you know it was a little bit of verbal big brothery pow-pow type [ __ ] that he he gave him but that could end
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really really badly you know what i'm saying like real real badly right yeah everybody's been
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calling me man i'm at the same gas station right now this is the guy who had the gun yeah for
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the most part [ __ ] you know i left my car running
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left keys in the car but i know me though you know i know me anytime
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i have ever left my car running talk about it now i'm probably in a well-known neighborhood where i'm from
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or like west macon juniorville but somewhere you feel safe i'm up here in east atlanta you know i've come to
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highway to tesco i love my car running but i'm watching my car at the same time
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sure enough of course i pretty much peep everything i watch movement i watch body language
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watch people talk he giving it to you i grew up like that you watch everything i was over here at my partner little
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spot get some reels man get some ribs hungry
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but i i look back and at glance so you know i glance every couple seconds every few minutes with
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every couple seconds and um trying to get in the car
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instantly right then i ain't even know how old he was i could have shot the car
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from the little 30 yards i was away from but i ran up on him
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he just bought the car yeah it's his car you know what i'm saying that's when i feel like he was a child at the gas
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station oh that's the other part yeah you pretty much surrender put the hands up got out the car
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and uh told me you know hey please don't kill me call the police
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ain't no rat [ __ ] you know what i'm saying you know i you know i actually saw the little
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homie at me you know like i ain't never did no [ __ ] like i had to do no [ __ ] like that but i did some crazy [ __ ] when i was coming up
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we don't need to hear no more you you see what type of time you're on yeah you see how you gave it up
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commendable round of applause yeah [Music]
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[Applause] yeah because again he just said y'all
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could've shot the car i was 30 yards away i could have tore the car up right he said yo when i got up on the car i
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real the boy is little my [ __ ] he's real real small so he's like yo i could have you know what i mean i definitely
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wouldn't have called the cops on the boy never in a million years what i've called the cops on the boy i might have plucked them upside the head a couple
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times and shook him up to scare him right but the talking to was way more valuable than any of that no doubt and
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you see he's in the video he says how scared the kid was the kid is just like yo just call the cops on me just call me
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come on shoot me just don't give up don't shoot me you know what i'm saying like you don't even think of but that goes to show a lot of these kids not
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thinking about consequence like he's not thinking this dude could have a gun on him he's not thinking this dude is watching his car he's not
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thinking anything that this could go left it's just oh [ __ ] there's a car running i'm about to come up sure and to
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show you yo you in atlanta uh-huh they giving it up out there and that's what he says they giving it up in atlanta so
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i don't see what a little kid could have not realized like yo this could happen
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he jumped in the car so haphazardly that it was like nothing he ain't peel off yet you posted
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you know what i'm saying but again shout out to that gentleman i don't know his name and maybe i'm just an extreme thinker but to the point that ice was
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just making i read some [ __ ] where they're coming out with uh
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removable tattoos huh temporary tattoo real tattoos now
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that operate as henna like a long-term headache so you can get a tattoo and it'll fade
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away it will just go away wow look at technology and just advancement
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and what you could do on the flip side of that you get really really sad because we're
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grooming a generation without consequence and that's what [ __ ] like that does
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that's what it does yes and no right i know who did my first tattoo shout out to be wise jailhouse jersey city [ __ ]
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know where i got it just cause my baby moms at the time was in the [ __ ] with tattoos and i didn't want to leave me with one [ __ ] with some tattoos i
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wouldn't got some [ __ ] on my own and it stayed and her and i broke up
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and boy the character building that that did the lessons that that taught me
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hey the frame of mind you had to be in when you learned you needed a cover-up how you were gonna cover it up thought
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process that went into putting something permanently on you i wanted a neck tattoo early in the game my mom
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threatened to whip my ass every day because boy how are you getting a job with a tattoo on your next i never got one
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until i just didn't give a [ __ ] and i'm solidified and rap and however it goes i'm gonna get one because i ain't going to work a corporate job back to that
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statement that i read earlier but yeah wow that's great and round of applause awesome
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boy the flip side of that is horrible i gotta give you some pushback i love it that's why you're here that that's why
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they give you potter of the month now they gave you part of them so ever since you got home all right
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they said you got home from rikers and been showing your ass they said you must have learned how to show your ass
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[Laughter] the man said i'm never going to stay
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you're right it's definitely um bailey [ __ ] out but i think often
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times when you're a kid you're doing dumb [ __ ] and you don't really understand the ramifications that you know what i'm
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saying you're gonna face based on the dumb [ __ ] you do later on in life so you're a kid you're 18 you're 19. you
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rebellious because your mother ain't let you get a tattoo your whole life now you're 18 she can't tell you nothing you go get
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some big [ __ ] on your neck right you don't know what in corporate america
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that's going to ever ever ever uh what are going to be the consequences behind a decision in corporate america
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right right so you go to college you get on a straight and narrow we've seen a ton of time [ __ ] malcolm x martin
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luther king they all went to jail right so you're 18 you're 19 you're doing dumb [ __ ] and now you get on a straight and
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narrow path that tattoo could have long-term consequences once you're on a straight
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and narrow path you get i'm saying yeah character builds and i'm talking about yeah but
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that's part
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that teaches you [ __ ] like joe said [ __ ] should i do today yeah we just can't affect me
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failure just read the story it broke over the weekend let me get this out real quick we just read the story broke over the weekend of
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one of the gentlemen involved in pop smoke's murder may he rest in peace is telling his lawyer yo dawg lessen my
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charge cause i didn't participate in the killing i drove the car
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i not only did i drive the car but the plan wasn't to murder anybody i told them dudes to use a flower boss
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and attack him and i was so angry at what they did that when they came back to the car
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i assaulted the alleged murderer i hit him we had a fight
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because that's how angry i was at what he did cool
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but [ __ ] you drove you don't get to escape the consequences
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of the result because you drove now legally maybe
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he'll be able to beat that cool i'm just talking about grooming a generation that don't really
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think about all of the consequences we can't say that though yo again you can't say that when it comes to kids you just
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can't they get grace we all were kids at some point we all did dumb [ __ ] at some point we i know personally i've done
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[ __ ] that could [ __ ] i got shot point blank range two times i could not be here on this microphone right now so you
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can't say that i was 20 years old you can't say that kids are not um um a lot
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at grace because they are it's a it's you learning we've all done different [ __ ] all of our paths have been different some done more
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[ __ ] than others but again look kids should get grace now in the case of the boy i'm not agreeing with that because
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you know when you set out to go rob somebody it's an armed robbery you drove the car [ __ ] you part of the crime
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right you are definitely a liar wait wait wait wait you're a lot of times no a lot of times they don't know
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that though you're unaccomplished but i'm just saying a lot of times they think he just all i did was drive the
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car this was not supposed to happen drove somebody to a robbery i'm saying that
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the planning part he's saying they're not thinking i just want to jump in here and let ish
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remind ish we do not have an argument or debate here because everything you're saying is right and i agree with kids do
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and should have grace i'm saying that when they don't is when a real lesson is learned
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that's it i think sometimes but but again but i'm with everything that you're saying with the issue are the tattoos
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let's stay on the tattoo piece okay let's say it takes 10 years that we're away
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right i don't know how long it you know how long but let's short five we'd have to find the article yeah
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but five or ten let's say five years ten years so now you learned from that dumb [ __ ] you put on your neck
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when you was 19 right that it hasn't worn away to you 24 25 years old you
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haven't really been able to join the real workforce until you're 25 years old when the stupid ass tattoo wears off i
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think it's a lesson in that but i think it's if i disagree with you hold on joe i disagree with you only
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because it's a softer lesson if it is a lesson because it's still telling me i don't have to deal with the
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consequences of this forever no i had this deal there is scary [ __ ] that that
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will happen that you are going to have to deal with the consequences forever i agree with that let me let me jump in and add to
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what isis is saying and i don't disagree with what you're saying but if you take away
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even exposure to consequence then you heighten sensitivity
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and sensitivity is already at an all-time high we just had this talk with tattoos we were talking about tattoos right he was like hey but why tattoo
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hurt if you get it right here and i was like well because it ain't exposed to nothing it's in the tuck it's hidden that's the same it's the same thing here
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you write about everything you're saying but the grander picture to that is if that continues for
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the next they don't even neil degrasse said it don't even take a long time it takes 30 years we'll be alive for it 30 years
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then what does the next whatever look like i understand
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i just think that at a certain age we've all been kids we've all done dumb [ __ ] like yo you
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could have been a kid and been in the car y'all didn't get caught but that decision being in that car
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could have cost you the rest of your life you could go on to be a great influential person in the community and you needed to be here you didn't need to
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be drop it you didn't see it you didn't need to be in that car hold
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up guys so you didn't need to be in that car right that's not who you are in your core you went on to do do grand things
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for your community for your people for your family for all of that [ __ ] right but you were 17 18 years old and a car
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that you shouldn't have been in and that those consequences stick you don't go on to be the great person
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the individual that you are so i think that sometimes grace is a great thing i agree
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i'm with you no argument for me yeah around back to the back to the car thing
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you're saying though no no no no no he does get a round of applause for that though oh i'll get it back tomorrow
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but with the car instincts what what happens is if there's
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somebody being in that car something happens and they get away no consequence maybe a close call or
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but because nothing happened they'll keep some a lot of times they keep doing it they keep you a lot know a
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lot son again you just feel like oh they ain't gonna happen to me uh yeah i heard it happen but until it had until they
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see consequence some a lot ish not some i'm a lot i i
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think it's a relative i think that if you're a good kid or if you're a scary [ __ ] you could be a scary dude
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right you could be a real scary dude let's say you we could take it off a real harsh crime you could be cheating
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on your girl okay and you almost get caught you're like that was close i ain't i ain't [ __ ]
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around there over there no more it happens some people learn from that's the lesson for some for okay not for
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everybody though some [ __ ] going to keep getting but i'm saying a lot a lot caught or not but a lot of people will see that as
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damn almost got caught let me do it better next time so this don't happen you're right they don't learn from it until
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they get caught up just hear me out just hear me out can y'all close this
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somehow let's find a way all right come on [ __ ] it no no but what i'm saying in that in that
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instance is sometimes it takes something drastic to happen to make you realize oh [ __ ] in
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this case with back to the tattoo let's bring it back you being [ __ ] and realizing damn this
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this altered my life trajectory maybe you won't get no more tattoos maybe you'll do it'll just teach you
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differently there is a consequence once you start removing consequences permanent consequences yeah [ __ ] get
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to moving a little bit more freely thinking nothing's going to happen to them that's all i'm saying about stupid ass kids
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that's all i'm saying anytime i'm looking at stupid-ass kids bro i'm gonna i'm gonna tap out cause we staying on
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the product this for so long i i i'm gonna disagree and i'm gonna just hold fast and that you
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don't get to make a mistake when you're a kid and sometimes suffer the law you saying basically you made a mistake when
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you was 18 years old you should have to deal with that and you should have to deal with that for the rest of your life even though you've grown and matured as
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a person and i disagree with that wholeheartedly disagree with that because i don't know what life you lived but i made a [ __ ] ton of mistakes when i
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was a kid and i'm no longer that man or that person that i made them and i shouldn't have to suffer them for life
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bars i've ran the streets as a kid
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you know what you gotta go see we gotta go see uh i saw it over the weekend but we can all go again uh-huh uh
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[ __ ] a broadway show right yeah it's called uh the scott gang
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yo off mike it showed me to go get some culture and stop [ __ ] with the strippers and escorts because i was like
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oh they're going to say you [ __ ]
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no i know bro is back open cause couple girlies i know hit my phone and be like yo i'm going to the bro i have fun you
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ain't take them no you only go on the hookah spots i'm the [ __ ] that you hit after you finish all that [ __ ] you
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heard that ain't me stupid i'm not going to play with you i'm glad
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that women know that about me hit me when you're done and you want to get away from from the girls yeah all right
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yeah i didn't know you was there though i might have win if i see my man oh [ __ ] look at this loser
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oh [ __ ] it's just there with my mom's in them my mom's went to the tina turner play
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you see why we don't have no culture you see how the young black men friends by you [ __ ] they don't even
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view me as young they put me right in the senior citizen box i know which means you're supposed to let me tell you what my life insurance guy was sounding
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like on the phone when i spoke to him he ain't sound like i had it long oh
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people sound when you give them your address and you in the hood maybe like oh oh oh oh you're there
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you're there oh did you no 41 you smoked how long you been smoking smoking yeah what else you
- 1:14:41
smoke all right you doing exercising oh man we caking off of you
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out of here yeah it was just a lie put him in there i'm never supposed to tell them if you lied to them who did you lie
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to him [ __ ] all right them them [ __ ]
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when your coverage stays the same you just getting a lower rate you lied to them indeed i want to know when the
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country thinks we're dying so i asked do i give them the real
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information on final destination the dvd let me show some age
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on the dvd the bonus section of it they give you life insurance advice
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that's why the sound effects still low bummer it's engineering they tell you they tell you when to sign going chop your head off shut up yeah
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they had a little game on there where if you enter your birthday they'll tell you when your transition date will be and
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look who really entered i put my real birthday because if you're alive
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i'm a loser if you lie to them you lie to you the game won't tell you
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when it's over this guy's nuts man you yo bro
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you're my guy you need a hug or something yo yo who the [ __ ] wants to know that joe
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who wants it who's trusting that the final destination of all places destination dvd to know your date the
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bonus section at that if you all talked for two seconds this guy was the i was the bro
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too late it's over just that fast i found somebody that wants to know that
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because you asked now if you were asking of rhetoric it was historical it was so you
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don't want me to answer it i don't want you to answer uh what other but i found somebody i believe you there's a bunch
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of nut cases running around okay so the answer to that question didn't help your point debate team captain it didn't of course it was
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rhetorical mr semantic literal man alex
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murdoch he sounds like a crazy white guy just like you [ __ ] you
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joe he's a crazy white guy yeah you are a crazy white guy judgment from a young black successful man
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judgment toward another black oh man another black man man empowerment is a myth too we're
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getting the blur away after i tell you about alex murdoch since you asked the question [ __ ] head man alex murdoch
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didn't think i would have the answer it sounded like he was swindling someone out of some money and after i tell you who alex murdoch is
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i want i'm gonna ask you a follow-up question and then you can tell me about broadway go ahead
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this is south carolina stuff here okay shout out to sumter south carolina
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alex murdoch the south carolina lawyer whose wife and son were shot and killed
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in june asked a former client to kill him this month
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so his other son could collect a 10 million dollar insurance payment but he survived being shot in the head
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damn long story less long the gentleman that he asked to do it went to jail [ __ ]
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so now my question to y'all before we get into broadway and we don't have to make this long and drawn out is
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how do y'all feel about that i got a question for you first how did you know right where to go to on
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your cell phone of applause for
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uh research our research and development team right over there
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because i've been meant to ask you all about that and that story is from about probably a month and a half ago but i've
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been meant to ask you all about it i do feel like the guy shouldn't go to jeff i ask you to kill me that's what i want to know from y'all just that it's some
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notebookish love affair type of cool [ __ ] went to broadway in his reference in the
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notebook in the same episode i'm thinking i don't fit in the box
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why do you think he shouldn't go to jail because i'm thinking all this time in america the people that go to jail for
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first degree murder that that's the state doing right by the victim
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and things like this story remind you that it's just the state doing right by them yeah that's why i'm like why are
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you i was lost if i asked you to to get me out of here and we have we can prove that
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like i have a recording i have a letter okay i'm the person that needed is the beneficiary of my shitty ass power
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attorney like if i'm set up here right why is that guy going to jail not to be
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morbid but does that make sense no no one thing for certain to me yes it
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does no no listen the only thing i'm is the rappers it's it's insurance it's insurance for them it's just insurance
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for all because now the [ __ ] that you purposely killed yourself you don't get an insurance policy for suicide i got a
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better one they should have came up with a better play like a little you gotta check no he shot him in the head he just lived
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i'm gonna tell you even crazy stupid [ __ ] live after getting shot in the head check no no check this out
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that's a bad that's bad planning for sure that is terrible let's just put that point here yo
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who would have thunk yo ish check this one out and this is a true story a guy
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hooked a fo um hooked the gun up to like a a drone or some [ __ ] oh i think we talked about this or you
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mentioned this all right i didn't oh yeah but had it killed himself had it shoot him and pull and go and hide the gun
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somewhere so that it couldn't be proven that he killed him off insurance they found out they traced it back
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whatever so the policy did not pay for it but back to your statement yeah i 100 think the dude should still go to jail
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for what it's a crime you still committed the [ __ ] crime yo
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i hate you murder is illegal yes or no god yo you are really [ __ ]
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[Music]
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because you want someone to break the law it's okay now because you want them to do it ice i don't believe in the principles
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that the laws were built on that's the best that's a whole different debate no but the laws
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yes we have all broken them all right so this is what i'm going to say to you because i don't you know ain't no rat
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but you've broken some laws yes okay i broke some laws today shut up so this is
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court but you stand in your stance so concretely that the laws that i know that you've broken could have sent you
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to jail for 20 years but they ain't harmed nobody stay violent and if you got caught you wouldn't be taking that same let me tell you something can i can
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i tell you something this is a joke can i tell you something sir i hate ice
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y'all can hate icebergs i'm the only one [ __ ] thinking here personally yes i do know the risks
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i hate when [ __ ] do that i do know the risk that i took that's the thing i know the risk i know
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if it bailed out on the other side i knew the risk when i made the decision ish you know
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you're so tough it's not tough that's tough that's not tough okay you win i only remember how this came up you you
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know shouldn't go to jail for he should go to jail is bugging all right ice is crazy
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i'll be crazy by myself then y'all are crazy y'all are nuts if i if that guy has to go to jail then free will don't
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exist yes yeah no free will does exist nobody forced him to do that he chose to you
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asked me that's true he's right on that part yeah yeah i'm
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talking about that guy i'm not talking about that guy i'm talking about the guy that wanted to end it he could have ended it on his own oh
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yeah he did without using the help of someone else he planned the thing for him no no
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no no wait wait wait wait wait wait now we where we need to be why
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did he not do it on his own if free will is a thing because he wouldn't get the insurance
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no he could have he still could have ended it on his own no free will don't got you you're ending it to get paid
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liberty mutual don't got nothing to do with your decision man that's not that's that's different i'm chatting up if you want to just end it go end it
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see jump off of those i'm the guy that would have preferred us being the ocean naked
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with the girlies eating fruits y'all telling me but the stuff that y'all saying
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don't sound like that in this situation that's not free will in this situation this dude did not want to end it he
- 1:23:35
wanted to get his son ready he will difference he wanted to end it he don't care what happens you end it
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that's not true that's not even true that's not true that's not true he said we've seen man incidents of people that
- 1:23:47
were tired of being here and wanted the best for their loved ones i.e aaron hernandez like we don't have to get into
- 1:23:53
this that's true people have tried to juke the loopholes in the system which adds something to your thinking process
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as you're saying hey do i want to be here versus what happens when i'm not here which all i'm saying is that's not
- 1:24:04
really free will if i can't do what's truly in my heart without having to think about modern day construct and
- 1:24:10
some [ __ ] that some [ __ ] made up somewhere then that's what it is and this conversation we have to argue about
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is leading me right into why i'm having a hard time watching a show called dopesick are you all familiar with it i saw it i watched it dope sick i saw the
- 1:24:23
preview of it i thought it was a movie it wasn't it's about the oxycontin uh uh epidemic [ __ ] michael keaton right
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yes michael keaton is about the oxycontin [ __ ] uh crisis epidemic uh epidemic the crisis
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yeah that happened so i'm watching this [ __ ] back to free will
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don't think that i'm leaving our free will talk i'm still here we're just pardoning now i watch this show
- 1:24:51
and the show y'all have to see it they're on episode four now by the time this episode drops
- 1:24:57
i'll be one so they get so they get into but it's but it's not depressing it's our lives
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we've been alive for this just like you know cool g rap dropped after them now why you know it we was alive we alive
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for this so we had that age now where we watching [ __ ] that we was there for could witness it maybe we didn't know
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and we learned some [ __ ] so dopesick uh purdue pharma
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some [ __ ] was happening to where their drugs they would no longer be allowed to make so they came up with a new drug
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they came up with a new drug with this time disposal dispensable [ __ ] and they made they had some [ __ ] with
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the fda came out with a new sign that said hey this opioid you
- 1:25:39
won't get addicted to they were working in concert with the hospitals who were working in concert with the sales reps
- 1:25:45
and they were basically a drug cartel and this is how america got hooked on opioids right they got sued too they had to pay
- 1:25:52
out of [ __ ] load of money but it wasn't good wasn't it right and they didn't get to that part because
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we only on episode four but back to our free will conversation
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uh and not to get too deep but when i think of the free will conversation for me it goes into somewhere in there i get
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into well [ __ ] does my dad ever do crack without the crack wave i don't know
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i don't know i doubt it but now my version is this opioid [ __ ] because i went to the hospital because i had something on
- 1:26:24
my thumb i didn't know what it was and they gave me oxycontin and even when
- 1:26:30
they was giving it to me boy they was talking about it like it was that [ __ ] and i liked it like it was that [ __ ]
- 1:26:36
it's like no you just had one two hours ago can't get another one so soon i only
- 1:26:41
need six hours and i i was there when they pulled out that little pain chart and was like what level of pain are you
- 1:26:47
in from one to ten i was frequent in the hospitals then and what happened was i got hooked on them
- 1:26:52
shits and when i left there i had to find them [ __ ] and when i couldn't find them shits no more i was
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balled up in my bed sweating couldn't function in society couldn't sit on a plane it was [ __ ] up that's what the
- 1:27:05
show was showing me and boy am i getting angry watching it i'm getting mad because then i'm forced to think
- 1:27:12
well [ __ ] if i don't go to the hospital and and my mom told me to say that she
- 1:27:19
told me to tell the nurse hey don't give me oxycontin my mom said to say that i believe that
- 1:27:24
of course i believe it because we know my mom and we know how she feel about drugs so of course she said that but you're saying that to a kid who's being
- 1:27:30
fed drugs by society and by the system by our trusted by the hospital and i like it and i like it right and i like
- 1:27:37
it [ __ ] what you talking about i'm enjoying this right hey the pain left but whoa what a little [ __ ] so around
- 1:27:44
episode three they got into how this [ __ ] don't last uh 12 hours like they say how you can get addicted to it how
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overdose is happening [ __ ] is dying and they know they just kept pushing it right and they knew it and they were
- 1:27:56
looking to do this in germany and now we trying to trick the system over there and i just was angry and it just goes in
- 1:28:02
our free will conversation y'all should watch it if you haven't seen it so yo it was time released and so they beat some
- 1:28:07
law because it was time released or something yes yes that was their trick hey
- 1:28:13
vicodins [ __ ] [ __ ] up your liver and you normally get addicted to opioids
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but because of our time release system you won't less than one percent of people get become addicted to this so
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it's a less dead oxycodone
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was not allegedly if the fda comes out with a new label that no one's ever seen before that says hey one percent of
- 1:28:37
people you're less likely to get addicted to this blah blah blah blah and then you go to the hospitals and they got a hundred two hundred three hundred hospitals we know our insurance work hey
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i'm [ __ ] up hey send me a list of doctors i can go to listen bro no they they know that work doctors so when that
- 1:28:50
whole system is oxy oxy oxy oxy what level of pain are you in here here here here like man
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so how do you know what's the crazy part though let me ask you a question the ceo don't go to jail
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well that was the other big thing that's the crazy [ __ ] like if we ran a drug cartel if we ran some drug [ __ ] and this
- 1:29:08
is where again we're not going back here but when [ __ ] start talking about fda [ __ ] it's my ass
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like i don't want to hear that [ __ ] well that was the big that's another [ __ ] getting paid a check to approve some
- 1:29:18
[ __ ] get the [ __ ] out my favorite person that allegedly uh worked for the fda in the show anyway
- 1:29:26
and passed this wording off scapegoat guy left the fda to work for purdue of
- 1:29:33
course he did i remember of course it's a true story but even with that right and as they explain in this that's
- 1:29:40
that's the way of corporate america i'm gonna leave and work for the competitor to get paid six and seven i'm gonna pay
- 1:29:45
yeah what i got paid over there so it's my same beef in music that the label heads are now working at the stream and
- 1:29:51
stream streamers so i mean what you gonna do they just move them right on
- 1:29:56
yep go ahead you work for the government making 190. [ __ ] pfizer is going to give you 1.7
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billion yeah i mean million dollars a year like it's crazy you get what i'm saying but nobody in these companies
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really faces any repercussions no none no like the the company i think purdue got
- 1:30:15
fined like 500 million dollars ridiculous something crazy but it ain't crazy when you made 20 billion dollars
- 1:30:21
it's a drop in the bucket [ __ ] like word you want to check right that's all you need yeah you get what i'm saying
- 1:30:27
like so that's crazy like that they don't know i just want to know how you what about this makes you say free will
- 1:30:32
doesn't exist because joe's saying you didn't get it in whatever no joe's saying like
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he's saying basically the path that you went like um you like in his instance they gave him
- 1:30:44
some pills because his thumb was [ __ ] up right and now he get hooked on the pills was that really your decision or
- 1:30:50
was it not your decision the sackler family ice i'll add to that the sackler family in this show and this is not an
- 1:30:56
ad hulu y'all should pay us but i get why you don't y'all don't know um the sackler family i think in this
- 1:31:02
case it was robert sackler was trying to explain to his family after he had invested 40 million
- 1:31:08
not him but the family's earnings right he got 40 million into this oxycontin thing that the family don't really
- 1:31:14
understand they on his ass right and he's just all the way explaining all
- 1:31:19
the things that they don't get so in that he said all we have to do is come up with a
- 1:31:27
reason why the body needs this we have this amazing drug um we have the drug
- 1:31:32
we just don't have a reason the body needs to take this so when they thought of it we have to bring the
- 1:31:38
fiends to the drugs right so when we thought of it they just kept
- 1:31:45
uh pounding on top of that like they thought of why your body needed the dose then they was like we'll start them at
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20 milligrams start them at 30 milligrams depending on what your pain is let's individualize the dose so we can get more that means you might need a
- 1:31:57
certain amount but you might need a certain amount right and then they got into yo we could beat the pain
- 1:32:04
before the pain comes why do we have to start them on 20 30 and 40 if there's no pain we could give them 10 and they
- 1:32:10
still need it so this was a listen michael keaton now that he's in this arc of his career does not miss
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when he does a mini-series let me tell y'all this is not an ad but if michael keaton
- 1:32:21
is in the miniseries and it's dark and it's about [ __ ] it's a smash so check it out it's really well done it's
- 1:32:28
really really really it's a hulu exclusive all i should do is make me mad hulu exclusive but it makes me think
- 1:32:33
about the vaccine it makes me think about crack and what it did to my family it just makes me think about all of you
- 1:32:39
[ __ ] and where it comes from why it comes from there and what we have to face like man the ability to just say no
- 1:32:45
self-discipline i got to get more i got to get more if you could just put it in my face and just leave the option to me
- 1:32:51
and we just remove all the barriers of safety and precaution precaution and
- 1:32:57
just humanity and it's just i got to rely on my brain and curiosity and me being inquisitive
- 1:33:02
and man i'm gonna be [ __ ] up out here but moving right along you were saying about broadway i'm sorry
- 1:33:08
but no that's why we need the constructs for people that don't have the discipline to stop but when the
- 1:33:14
construct i agree with you we do need them but when they're not constructs and when they're not fair and they they're
- 1:33:19
not applicable to everybody across the board that's when i got an issue and that's when i got a problem broadway's thoughts of a colored man explores
- 1:33:25
diversity power uh power of blackmail you oh you went to this i went saturday got it um
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it was dope because it tackled black manhood from all areas we talk
- 1:33:38
about a bunch we typically talk about the more serious [ __ ] on patreon but we jump into our bag of um
- 1:33:45
expressing emotion as a black man um black man parenting um and this has been
- 1:33:50
all of that [ __ ] so basically what they did was every person had their own um
- 1:33:55
pardon me spoiler alert but every one of the dudes represented one emotion
- 1:34:00
so their name was a particular emotion oh that's nice it was kind of dope it was a little swing so um
- 1:34:07
and they just broke it down it was younger kids that would have been anger mack wilds was anger shout out to mack
- 1:34:12
wiles go make his anger um [ __ ] broadway money [Applause]
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and he was the star condom like he was the kind of the star so it was dope but um they had uh like anger lust
- 1:34:31
love passion you would have been lost no i wouldn't who you would have been um see when you don't know now i'm about
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to i'm trying to think of all the emotions [ __ ] wisdom [ __ ] ass [ __ ] that's not a new [ __ ]
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dude
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so it was dope it like had a new dude he just became a father like it was just dope it was just super
- 1:35:11
super dope like questioning god's motives all of that stuff it jumped into a bunch the audience was predominantly
- 1:35:17
what now that i hear what this is about it was probably 70 30. oh black i
- 1:35:23
thought you were something black and white that was nice it was probably 70 30 black um 70 30 black what about men
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women i don't know probably 50 50. because i think a lot of people were
- 1:35:33
there with their faces that was my next question couples yeah yeah bro
- 1:35:39
but families families like my man hit me his street [ __ ] and he was like yo when i posted it on my gram he was like yo i
- 1:35:45
should take it and i was like yo you sharp so it's not going to do much for you but take your sons because it's a
- 1:35:52
real conversation piece to have with your sons when it's over like they talk about um how black men we talk about it when you
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can't really show your vulnerability and you can't really you know what i'm saying like all of that [ __ ] they show it in here and it was dope it was it was
- 1:36:06
well done nice um i think uh candy burris is behind it it was some really good writers that are behind it okay so
- 1:36:12
you know they get busy look at the range of culture that jbp provides man come on see that great broadway show
- 1:36:18
come on man we're here we're here nah um shout out to them again mag wilds and the rest of the cast
- 1:36:23
the tall kid from uh terry from bmf yeah the brother he's uh da vinci that's
- 1:36:30
his name yeah davinci he's um lust he's lust davinci is lust
- 1:36:36
but um now they did a good job it was it was dope i better show in a minute i would do that all right
- 1:36:41
i'll go often yeah yeah what you said that is hey shut the [ __ ]
- 1:36:46
up would you say that i do go often you [ __ ] ass [ __ ] i go to broadway a lot three four five times
- 1:36:52
a year this boy is coaching man man yo you ignorant y'all you are you culture you
- 1:36:58
are mature been the one broadway show whoa uh you mm-hmm why what you saw cats
- 1:37:04
no chris rock show uh the [ __ ] in the hat huh look what he went there the [ __ ] that was the name of the
- 1:37:10
show that was awesome that wasn't going broadway that was off yeah
- 1:37:16
whatever it was in new york no i just don't know that's not my bag
- 1:37:23
sorry that was cool we gonna make it your bag you getting that bread all right all right somebody schooled me on the howard university protest
- 1:37:30
ice the [ __ ] you with the cops i didn't know i didn't know ice was that guy but yeah
- 1:37:36
like you're the culture [ __ ] somebody tell me apparently there's they're they're protesting their living
- 1:37:41
conditions in the uh dorms it's like mold roaches rats noodles
- 1:37:48
and it's it's been a big thing that's going on like they've had their staging sit-ins yo that's crazy walking out nah
- 1:37:54
that's crazy to have all jokes aside that's crazy yeah this is nice if it is true howard with that high-ass tuition needs
- 1:38:01
to be ashamed of itself i mean they're they're people are posting pictures i believe you i ran they're proving this running around them dorms a little bit
- 1:38:08
i did a little quiet they used to sneak me in the low side doors and all that like that's mold but this is crazy and
- 1:38:15
they tuition ain't cheap yeah you're paying 30 30 30 grand to go to school you want to be living in some decent
- 1:38:20
conditions like that's crazy but um we gotta get it there howard so gucci and them have
- 1:38:26
wait wait wait just slow down it costs 30 grand a year to go to howard hell yeah
- 1:38:31
it might be more oh yeah [ __ ] right like that [ __ ] don't be cheap
- 1:38:37
how about this institution howard is private too yeah so the private school is going to tell you ass up it might be a little more
- 1:38:44
20 27. that was 19 19 yeah 19 20. yo i get offended by everything now i ain't
- 1:38:50
going to go hold you i'm a grump i'm a girl i'm a grump you mad you mad this [ __ ] caught 30 grand
- 1:38:56
cause look where they put the look where they thought the benchmark was for people to not be able to reach
- 1:39:03
like look where the look what the prestigious benchmark is and how it was said 30 grand
- 1:39:09
and look how y'all talking about i'm just listening to y'all i have no knowledge of none of this [ __ ] but damn 30 grand a year 30 60 a buck 20 in
- 1:39:17
disposable income not even disposables your kids going to college is what keeps people
- 1:39:23
from their kids getting some of the best education the best access right that's not boy
- 1:39:28
no no no shout out to how i'm no dis to howard like you know i went to hbcu but
- 1:39:33
but it's not well it's not considered 70 grand yeah which schools tell me
- 1:39:38
like the the the ivy league one of them right now yeah
- 1:39:44
no cornell's ivy i know but it has both oh man look look i meant ivy 57 60. look at
- 1:39:51
columbia [ __ ] that's six there's 240. look at columbia i don't know 61. i wish 62 grand
- 1:39:57
like when you start getting into them private schools themselves where else are you seeing that underneath well the
- 1:40:02
boxes 62 grand a year for columbia university harvard is
- 1:40:09
probably more nyu that's why people throw nyu out like that 53 grand a year mm-hmm bro this [ __ ]
- 1:40:16
ain't no game and then on top of it living in new york city having to have a little bit of money to go do some things
- 1:40:21
yeah mm-hmm 52 ate the whole story my [ __ ] that's just the beginning right honestly
- 1:40:28
i drink three grand per kid for a year and now the average the average degree is not a four year
- 1:40:34
anymore to five uh so you damn near spending 250 on the education and that's where [ __ ] start talking about
- 1:40:41
um they be getting their ass kicked by these student loans when they get out of school because you just spent a quarter of a
- 1:40:47
million dollars on an education if i do that you better guarantee me a job when i'm done like a good one like the real one no but then you start majoring
- 1:40:54
in some [ __ ] yeah and you're coming home and you be the manager at [ __ ] radio shack yep yeah you got to pardon
- 1:41:00
me for not being the biggest fan of counselor of fam i got i got a family member none of
- 1:41:07
it makes sense to me well there's also you don't have to i went to a state school i paid 1500 a semester to go to
- 1:41:12
and got a good education that was a long time ago yeah but state schools are still if you live with this relatively
- 1:41:18
cheaper but you can go to montclair state in new jersey you could go to william patterson in new jersey you
- 1:41:23
still spinning some bread no doubt especially if you want to live i didn't live until my thing is nobody asked to see park's little diploma
- 1:41:32
but he got a degree but he has a profession
- 1:41:37
but he didn't show that i never had i get what you're saying never ask you about none of that [ __ ] no yo all these [ __ ] million dollar
- 1:41:43
[ __ ] eight figure jobs then i i'd be offered nobody has ever asked me about my schooling
- 1:41:50
none of them you're not they don't a normal profession no you're right
- 1:41:56
my thing is they don't even talk like that be an option growing up
- 1:42:03
it's what it's they don't talk like that even i know why i know why i would love to know why
- 1:42:08
because you don't you don't talk about parks's and joe's careers being options
- 1:42:14
they're so few and far between so you know how many people want to be a rapper you know how many people want to be a
- 1:42:20
ballpark i'm not even talking about no i don't want to let you finish i'm not talking i'm not talking about that
- 1:42:26
i'm just saying they make it seem like there is no other way except getting on this path
- 1:42:32
they do that's true i graduated i graduated high school
- 1:42:37
i didn't even have the summer off i graduated june 18th and started school july 1st eof
- 1:42:43
no no but um cause they do the eof program but i
- 1:42:49
there was no other there was no plan b hold on hold on real quick i got i got a family member who
- 1:42:54
we had these talks and he's like bro listen i don't i'm scared i don't want to go to college
- 1:43:00
i said well why not because i don't know exactly what i want to go for and i said he said the biggest
- 1:43:06
thing that keeps happening i got friends that's going to college all they're coming out with is student loans
- 1:43:12
and then they in the job that's not in that field because you got to take a job but it's not in where you got your
- 1:43:18
degree but you as soon as you come out you got to start paying that back because you come out with put debt up to ass so his
- 1:43:24
fear ain't even really college it's just what happens when i get out
- 1:43:30
i'm doing this for what and i don't even know i pick i pick a major right now with the
- 1:43:35
future yeah i pick a major right now it might not be what i do it's an unfair decision but and it got a whole bunch of
- 1:43:42
moving parts as a 17 18 year old kid you ain't see the world yeah you don't
- 1:43:48
know [ __ ] you know [ __ ] about it you basically like oh i major in psychology
- 1:43:54
i wanna major in physical therapy like you literally picking out of the hat exactly so when i was going to school i
- 1:44:00
was real good at math so they made me be an engineering major like that with everybody yo you gotta be an engineering
- 1:44:06
major i'm like alright cool engineering [ __ ] it and i was kind of cocky so everybody can't be an engineering major
- 1:44:11
[ __ ] right so that's what i but i didn't want to do that so the end of my junior year which nobody does i changed my
- 1:44:18
major to finance nobody does that but again you're a kid you don't know and then a lot of us
- 1:44:23
all of us i'm sure um your parents never been to school and this is where one of this is one of the parts so your parents
- 1:44:30
just be happy you getting a college degree they don't necessarily know
- 1:44:36
if you major in a physical education that you ain't gonna make no money they don't know that they're just happy they
- 1:44:41
bragging my baby in college he got a degree go go go i did a job for um a wealthy white family and their son went
- 1:44:47
to uh florida international and he wanted to major in psychology they wouldn't pay
- 1:44:54
they wouldn't pay for him to go to school right they made him major in computer science
- 1:45:00
or something science tech based or they wouldn't pay because they knew because they were both
- 1:45:05
college educated and they have reached a certain level that we're not doing that because your chances of making money are
- 1:45:11
slim to none you're going to come out and make 45 grand and not be able to pay back the student loans we're not wasting our money on that well they were paying
- 1:45:18
for them but we're not wasting our money on that you got to major in something stem related and so those are the conversations that
- 1:45:24
parents got to have with their kids but a lot of our parents necessarily weren't college educated so they didn't know
- 1:45:30
that's where this generation right here that's where the you and the tray and then trace you get what i'm saying like
- 1:45:35
all of that [ __ ] comes into play but um now this [ __ ] is a racket bro they'll
- 1:45:40
let you change mages five times yeah they want you to change your major five times i go to my grandmother she has it's four
- 1:45:47
of us you know raymond like it's four she has four grandsons all she ever said was damn i wish one of
- 1:45:53
my boys would graduate college like we all went ours went i went everybody went no one
- 1:45:59
graduated so all she she don't care what it was for waste of money and that artist went to college in battle rap see
- 1:46:05
what i mean about college but you know what i made more money than making more money than most of them you know what happened he fell into battle rap with a
- 1:46:12
trip with the from the [ __ ] from college went to 106 in park and got pulled on because the guy the
- 1:46:18
challenger didn't show that day look at god and they needed somebody to rap like yo he rap but anyway um
- 1:46:24
what was i saying um oh yeah so she all she wanted was one of her grandkids to graduate that's how we was pushed yo so
- 1:46:31
as you guys as soon as you graduate high school you have to go to college [ __ ] what you're going for but you know where it comes from
- 1:46:37
that's what they were told
- 1:46:43
and also back in black kids especially also in our parents age i think college might have been a different it might
- 1:46:48
have meant something different less expensive you were more likely to get a career coming out of it there you go and so but again as black
- 1:46:55
people or so you're talk to think yeah we were so we were taught like yo the way that we can break the barriers
- 1:47:02
placed upon us is education right education is college because that
- 1:47:08
industrial [ __ ] of taking care of your family with a blue collar job that got wiped out in the the late 70s
- 1:47:15
so now it's college you got to push college you got to push college because that's the only way you can feed your family i disagree with that no i'm
- 1:47:22
saying that ideology i'm in construction my electricians and my plumbers that i
- 1:47:28
know wake way more money they make more money than doctors and lawyers my garbage guy
- 1:47:34
that does my demos and cleanups yeah that [ __ ] make like 400 000 a year doing [ __ ] garbage
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but this is what i told you missing any of the trash you need somebody else
- 1:47:48
this is what i told that same family member i said bro listen if you don't know what you want to go to college for don't go don't go wait
- 1:47:55
but life is still happening so don't wait no i'm saying wait to go back you could go back pick up a trade
- 1:48:02
and that's that's my advice always pick up a trade or if you want to if you're dead do community college that's what i
- 1:48:07
did because i didn't know what i wanted you could go to school get up yeah but at least you got you got yours
- 1:48:14
when you you go to uh get you a certificate from a trade school yeah
- 1:48:19
that you can use no matter what hvac [ __ ] make money electricians examiners make money that's why soon as
- 1:48:25
you send electricians and plumbers that's what i'm like man go to trade school [ __ ] that you don't have i'm not
- 1:48:30
[ __ ] on college
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we were never told that it was okay to not go to college that was that's my that was my whole beef okay to not to not yeah you never
- 1:48:49
we were never told that they never told me that but it was either you go to college or you are a failure in life
- 1:48:54
it's learned behavior though yeah it's learned behavior you just passed it down i have been moving kind of stuck on that
- 1:48:59
for me and we aren't done you know they're going to tell you what's up
- 1:49:05
me mm-hmm they are you know they tearing me up but trying to keep pace for the show i know they do they do
- 1:49:11
yo why the [ __ ] you ain't stopping
- 1:49:33
try to get back where we was y'all never said nothing like that no
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why [Applause]
- 1:49:52
yo something wrong with you bro oh that was the filtered version of what i wanted no no no no no i don't even want you
- 1:49:59
yeah yeah no we go with the filtered version let me find know the ledge let me find out
- 1:50:05
what you're doing yo you stupid i'm gonna help the girls out
- 1:50:12
oh man i figured it out ladies i'm here to tell you this is straight from the barber shop
- 1:50:18
i've done the research advanced analytics on this one they don't know what to do no no no no i'm
- 1:50:24
gonna tell them i'm gonna tell them i'm gonna tell them it's the truth i get the big beans i get that
- 1:50:30
my money in my head and they've never been took it go uptown and the bronzer boogie down was strong on the allen that
- 1:50:35
you but lay around ladies ladies ladies
- 1:50:45
i'm gonna get canceled again oh man you know what who i think our girlfriends is a lot of the times
- 1:50:55
her best dick sucker is your best girlfriend or is your girlfriend
- 1:51:00
so the one the one that's the best dick sucker is your girl that's boo boo that's boo boo
- 1:51:14
[Applause] i should have altered my voice when i said it
- 1:51:20
so they didn't know i said it yeah i know that [ __ ] is true man all right that's what
- 1:51:25
okay bro i'm not definitely not letting you because i keep seeing people meeting online or i just keep hearing [ __ ]
- 1:51:31
saying hey when you're in a relationship what do you do with your best dick sucker and i'm like first of all why are you calling her that like you have to
- 1:51:38
have some class that's the class you're moving and second of all call the stinks thing instead well not
- 1:51:45
that's disgusting yes you should be arrested but yeah that's your girl [ __ ]
- 1:51:52
that's a girl i'm gonna tell you you ain't stayed with your girl over the best dick sucker no
- 1:51:57
you didn't who did that one man did that tell you nobody
- 1:52:04
[ __ ] did it before i'm gonna take your word for it i can't even know these things don't want to incriminate this stuff all right move man
- 1:52:12
summer walker some hard drive [ __ ] more marketing [ __ ] that i don't pay any mind
- 1:52:18
to so i'll toss it over to our marketing extraordinaire our hard drive and our heart our hardest
- 1:52:25
driver oh ice what do you think about this look at duke
- 1:52:31
go ahead man summer walker she wasn't gonna break nothing no it's not designed for you to break anyway but
- 1:52:37
um someone walker put a box with a hard drive in it in the city for a couple hours and said if you want to hear the
- 1:52:43
album prior to release you have to break the box summer walker called all y'all
- 1:52:48
idiots actually not summer walker but somebody just was just calling y'all idiots and we'd be excited to be called
- 1:52:54
an idiot i mean everybody do an escape room you had to find the escape room and then did anybody get it open hey come
- 1:52:59
break the thingamajiggy and then watch me sell 250 000 records in your face who gonna break it open with the romper wow
- 1:53:05
i sold 250 000 records all from them trying to break the little stupid thing they couldn't break
- 1:53:12
and then you can't even pull back they're going to show you guys somebody i did see one video a dude was
- 1:53:17
hitting it with an upswing right at the top corner and the top did pop up a little bit so i don't know they cut that
- 1:53:22
video quick too you ain't seen nothing else after that so i don't know if he got in there or not you know what else cut fast we don't
- 1:53:28
never tell the truth on his [ __ ] part that hot girl summer should end it fast too
- 1:53:36
paying the joe i don't want no smoke i want to smoke with what elaborate
- 1:53:42
library what i said what i'm saying summer was over in three months [ __ ] all right
- 1:53:47
how long how long did hot girl summer last toddler couldn't say that
- 1:54:24
yo why you always gonna put me with you i follow him though i'm just saying you
- 1:54:30
know you know it's funny
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[Music] i have to not own our friendship just from how ish talk i could tell he home
- 1:54:45
telling his girl that him and i aren't really alike that's not true we are not alike in some [ __ ] though no we mad a
- 1:54:52
like no we're not you i don't like cuckoo man but some areas we are like hey it's girl
- 1:54:58
which camera she look at which camera is girl look at yo man
- 1:55:10
walker look at this doofus man i'm done with this [ __ ] y'all y'all reporting i don't even want to go because i'm a potter i gotta talk about that [ __ ]
- 1:55:16
trying to break a pink hard drive [ __ ] in the middle of the street i'm done look at shorty go ahead no what happened
- 1:55:22
they broke it or not that's what that time no no nobody get in november 5th november
- 1:55:27
5th it's happening i can wait saying i can wait i'm going to wait i want to hear it sean garrett called me
- 1:55:33
after our review of her first single had a nice long talk with him he said joe shut the [ __ ] up you stupid
- 1:55:40
you don't know [ __ ] that you talking about don't critique [ __ ] single's a hit you're wrong everybody
- 1:55:45
who's critiquing is going to be wrong is going to work globally not in your little neighborhood i've been hearing it
- 1:55:51
too he said uh listen we're doing something different on the single because it's a business
- 1:55:57
and she is a global star he said anything that you fans want to hear is there and we'll get to you guys later
- 1:56:04
but now it's about expanding and the song's going to work and you shut the [ __ ] up because you don't know [ __ ] i
- 1:56:10
have the most number ones in r b history i'm sean garrett you may pump it up
- 1:56:15
that's the answer now of course he didn't say that of course he didn't say that because that's my man and sean's gracious he didn't say
- 1:56:22
nothing i'm joking but he said yo the song's going to work we're trying something different with the single
- 1:56:27
whatever you're looking for as a fan is on the album and you don't have to worry because i'm all over the album and if you can't trust me who can you trust in
- 1:56:33
the army and what i said to him was fair enough you're absolutely right absolutely right you got it nothing for
- 1:56:39
me to say wait before you call we believe that we said it yeah and now that you call we believe it more and
- 1:56:45
we'll just wait to see we'll just wait to see so shout out to sean garrett shout out to summer shout out to justice of course we love that
- 1:56:51
whole crew and hopefully you deliver a classic and that song but you still should have spared that [ __ ] song up [ __ ] no
- 1:56:56
that song is catching some some attraction i see a lot of other shows
- 1:57:03
they heard the talk some of they've heard this whatever and said i don't like it
- 1:57:08
she she said you know she's justin that's your pick this is the business
- 1:57:14
get into your [ __ ] listen fans if you don't know the first singles of business absolutely and if it works well enough the second
- 1:57:20
thing with the business right yo [ __ ] all that someone walker talk damn colin powell passed away
- 1:57:29
we started talking about black men and all of that we really got to take our hat off to colin powell
- 1:57:36
yes 100 okay 100 of course we do he was the first black to do it do it
- 1:57:43
outside of vice president or president he held damn in the highest offices that there are
- 1:57:49
and came up in a time where the [ __ ] we talking about was unheard of
- 1:57:55
so he definitely gets full applause gunshots no no pun intended because he's
- 1:58:00
a military guy but he put enough gunshots here yeah but uh that too
- 1:58:06
but again a couple gunshots yeah it's colin powell yeah you gotta give him a couple
- 1:58:11
rest in peace colin powell first black u.s secretary of state whose leadership in several republican
- 1:58:17
administrations helped shape american foreign policy in the last years of the 20th century
- 1:58:25
84 years old highly decorated life 84 uh allegedly
- 1:58:30
passed of colvid complications any time i read that i don't believe it so also it came out i'll just shut up i don't
- 1:58:35
believe it oh see i didn't see that point no yeah multiple myeloman oh i missed that point granny got it got
- 1:58:41
a guy because he was fully vaccinated they don't normally tell you all this all right yeah uh cancer plasma cells that suppresses the body's immune
- 1:58:47
response as well as parkinson's what a life what a life what in life
- 1:58:53
what a life what a man referencing peace rest in peace to colin powell all righty then
- 1:59:01
we will get to ben simmons ben
- 1:59:07
simmons take it away again slow down because i'm taking a break but
- 1:59:12
ben simmons do we got to yeah do we we do
- 1:59:18
i mean i thought it was important it is if you guys don't y'all don't think that's important it's
- 1:59:25
for the culture all right the process
- 1:59:32
ben simmons doc rivers joel embiid
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philadelphia
- 1:59:42
76ers what is wrong with this toss this over to our 76ers expert
- 1:59:50
i stallone ice yes joe what what ben simmons went to
- 1:59:57
76ers practice after long negotiations and lack of communication
- 2:00:03
he practiced he had his cell phone in his pocket blogs tore him up the whole team including the coach and the organization
- 2:00:09
saw that on their phones they went back to practice the next day ben simmons was disengaged
- 2:00:15
doc rivers threw him out of practice and here we are joel embiid is on social media saying he
- 2:00:22
doesn't give a [ __ ] about ben simmons and he has to focus on the people that are in the locker room that's right
- 2:00:29
i'm asking you as a 76er fan how you feel about the current situation
- 2:00:36
what you think they should do and who you think has the advantage and the leverage here as i turn down
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oh michael jackson man oh man oh man i i agree first off uh with joel embiid
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a thousand percent like we showing up to work we want to win i can't
- 2:00:54
focus on this dude is a distraction at this point that's all it is you don't want to be here you're here
- 2:01:00
because you don't want to lose no money or whatever the case may be we are here to work
- 2:01:06
the lack of professionalism just like you could tell b don't you want to
- 2:01:11
talk about this [ __ ] right now like the season's about to start and this is what i got to deal with
- 2:01:17
so yeah suspect throw them out of practice suspend them for the home the uh the first game
- 2:01:23
but i want him to stay in philly i want him to face the philly crowd
- 2:01:29
and i'm not mad at them requesting the world for him because when he want to play he is still
- 2:01:35
a great player so i don't want to let him go for cheap and i think the advantage right now is
- 2:01:41
going to the sixers because all ben simmons is doing is hurting his value even more
- 2:01:46
now you're showing that you're unwilling to play with a team all the things that the other teams are
- 2:01:53
going to look at like what happens if you're not happy here i got to deal with that so in the end i think he's going to hurt
- 2:01:59
himself but um yeah i do want to see ben simmons face the philly crowd i want
- 2:02:05
him at that home opener against brooklyn on friday i damn nearly was going to try to go to the game just to get my [ __ ] off in
- 2:02:12
person which was going to do boo the [ __ ] i don't like everybody else what you thought i was going to do
- 2:02:19
as we get into our worst take segment of the show who do you think has the leverage and the advantage in this situation and
- 2:02:26
why i think the sixers do at first i thought
- 2:02:32
ben simmons had it but him showing up and showing up like this i think is pushing is giving them more
- 2:02:38
leverage because you're gonna be the one that gets suspended you're gonna be the one to miss out all this money you're crashing
- 2:02:44
if you want to be outside of philadelphia you want to be traded make yourself
- 2:02:50
where you can be traded i'm not even saying super valuable just all you're doing is if i'm if i'm another team
- 2:02:56
looking at you right now i'm not bringing you here because what if you don't want to be here i got to deal with this headache
- 2:03:01
well not only that we're not bringing you here because the 76ers are asking for an entire year
- 2:03:06
i'm going past that part though if i'm if i'm a gm
- 2:03:12
and i got a package that the sixers are willing to accept looking at the way you're acting now
- 2:03:18
when you don't want to be there after they just maxed you um
- 2:03:24
i don't want to i don't take that risk you're too risky i don't want to be that guy it's still a business somewhere in this talk
- 2:03:30
it leads to our earlier conversation about grooming a generation without consequences consequences
- 2:03:37
it does definitely go back there right um it goes back there because he got a guaranteed contract mm-hmm he's still
- 2:03:44
going and for the listeners he just got maxed out i just want to point it out this is the first second year of a
- 2:03:50
contract extension of supermax he was the first pick so the supermax is about a buck 80. it's something stupid
- 2:03:57
220 maybe whatever it is yeah roughly 200 million that's a lot of money it's a lot of money he's getting almost 40 million a year
- 2:04:03
in that ballpark um i think he still has the leverage i think he's 25 years old and he's a potential superstar where you
- 2:04:10
think he has the leverage against the sixers right now currently because he he still they gotta pay him
- 2:04:16
they're not gonna suspend him for the season if he comes to work he got suspended for one game they gotta pay him i still think that another team
- 2:04:22
would definitely but they want but they want to pay him they want to pay him i know yeah so why are you feeling like that they want to bam they're happy to
- 2:04:28
pay him look at him if he don't want to play right if he don't want to play he got to get paid he could come and fake the
- 2:04:34
ankle injury or any of that dumb [ __ ] and i think another team would still
- 2:04:39
definitely take the risk on him they've had mad offers philly don't want to trade him good they
- 2:04:45
want to get a [ __ ] the house they seem like they have leverage he's in the first second year of a contract extension he's 20 he's not in the last
- 2:04:52
year of it you want to get paid for the next four years you have to come to work and if you come to work disengaged like
- 2:04:58
you did at the practice we'll suspend you without the bad yeah but we have the you don't know what they can't do it
- 2:05:03
long term they can't suspend them long term without pay that's what that's the beauty of the year for them you miss enough for them
- 2:05:10
i just don't think they want to they want him to play they're trying to win a chip at the end of the day they want him to be engaged
- 2:05:17
for him he's good so if that if you're not going to play
- 2:05:23
you're not going to be engaged and you're going to be a distraction to the team then we don't have to pay you and i think that hurts you more than it hurts
- 2:05:30
us i don't know i still think that uh he ain't missing
- 2:05:35
no checks you get him saying like what you're gambling why is he at breakfast i was just getting ready to say that he is missing chuckster i think he's i think
- 2:05:42
he's got practice to save face for the public reality of the public then you would
- 2:05:50
what ben simmons sneaker look like i don't know because i don't think he has he don't have one he don't have to have a personal sneaker to begin money
- 2:05:56
from what does ben simmons state farm commercial look like you know what are any of his
- 2:06:02
advertisements or off the court what does his off the court money look like outside of your super rich girlfriend
- 2:06:08
your super wealthy girlfriend i'm i can't answer you ben simmons is a star he's not a superstar he's a star so i'm sure he's
- 2:06:16
getting his salary and endorsements are nice he might not have a shoe just because you don't have yours answer me i
- 2:06:21
know he's saying i'm gonna answer you hey but while he's talking alex try to find the answer to that he pulled it up oh got it yo
- 2:06:28
because you don't have your own signature shoot i don't mean you're not getting a nice contract from nike or one of them
- 2:06:33
alex i'm looking for his endorsement he made 35 million dollars last year i'm only looking for the separation
- 2:06:39
between his on-court money and off-court money so he just added up so because when kyrie says
- 2:06:46
yo i'm not taking the vaccine and y'all could trade me i won't play i know for a fact
- 2:06:51
there's endorsement money to carry him through if i if i only have 20 million
- 2:06:56
nike his rookie season that's enough to live off rookie do so he's getting more now he
- 2:07:04
signed 20 million i said the deal has both incentives that could boost that nike contract to 40 million we don't
- 2:07:09
know but that's we know that if you're not playing then you're not hitting incentives but we know we know for one year last
- 2:07:16
year he has enough money for us in our in the uh in this context of our
- 2:07:22
argument that's enough to live off the end yeah yeah now when i have to bring in his mind state do i think he
- 2:07:28
feels that way and do you think he feels no i don't think he feels that way and that's the unfortunate part because if he felt that way he could
- 2:07:34
take the kyrie stance and say you know what 10 million a year i get it done that's enough for me but i don't think he does which is why
- 2:07:40
he's at that sixer practice and because i don't think he does that's why the sixers have the leverage in this
- 2:07:46
conversation and doc is doc as i said in the car doc want a ring yeah doc has enough cachet
- 2:07:54
enough reverence right for you to lose this i think and i think they need that i think coaches they need
- 2:08:01
that especially when you're dealing with stars with um egos with fortnite egos you need to
- 2:08:07
have the fortniters a respected coach i.e pop i.e doc rivers it ain't that
- 2:08:12
many right right sure it's about five coaches in the nba that you need to be able to
- 2:08:18
pow wow with the stars and their egos and daca is one of them yeah so i kicked him out of practice and
- 2:08:24
[ __ ] you're not gonna get me fired right you're not gonna get me fired you know what i'm saying and you have the support
- 2:08:30
of joel embiid who is the bonafide superstar and the man on the team right saying agreeing with the coach
- 2:08:37
so i don't know i think it's unfortunate i just think the the leverage is all
- 2:08:44
with the sixers at this point and i think it's all ben simmons doing it to himself he basically gave the leverage
- 2:08:50
back to the sixers because he i think he held the leverage at one point but now it's
- 2:08:55
if so what you say is in terms of leverage what do they both want the sixers want
- 2:09:01
they don't want to trade them they want him to show up and play that's what they want he wants to get traded out of
- 2:09:07
philadelphia so in terms of the leverage conversation who's closer to getting what they want
- 2:09:13
it would be the sixers they have the upper hand in this you want to get traded out but you're not
- 2:09:19
doing anything to help yourself get traded out you don't have you're doing it to hurt yourself
- 2:09:24
you don't have to do anything to help but don't do nothing to hurt you don't have to because again in basketball more
- 2:09:30
than football you get picked up off of potential
- 2:09:36
his potential is limitless he has limitless potential so again in my opinion he has the letter
- 2:09:43
i get a jump shot first his limits potential though potentially he's limitless he's a 6 11 point guard
- 2:09:51
right that could pass handle the ball he's a hell of a defender he has the he has the leverage and you still owe me mad brett so i
- 2:09:58
could come to practice if i want i mean i could come to play if i want get the ankle injury that really ain't an ankle
- 2:10:03
injury now y'all gotta pay me get my 35 million now y'all gotta pay me and
- 2:10:09
i think they would rather do that than just trade you away which means he has the leverage
- 2:10:17
for what he wants he's still not getting what you want though nobody's getting what they want in that case cool
- 2:10:23
let's see adam plays i don't feel like he has leverage but we'll see i don't think he has the leverage i think i think he [ __ ] himself up year one and
- 2:10:29
two of the extension but we'll see i don't know and i don't think the 76ers feel like
- 2:10:36
feel like feels like he has the leverage because they suspended him the second day at practice
- 2:10:41
in front of the team she only got six for one day one game the whole one the the opening
- 2:10:46
game let's go let's do that do that when the season is on actually tonight is the start of nba season knicks have the
- 2:10:53
celtics tonight i should be at that game hopefully but outside of that do that now
- 2:10:59
and watch what the suspension is well no his suspension is for the first season game yeah i understand that what i'm
- 2:11:05
saying is when we suspend you in the preseason we know what the end season suspension looks like no it's one game
- 2:11:11
first right come on come play come play with us it's one game now
- 2:11:17
be disengaged two weeks from now watch it be ten games when money is on the line now pre-season know me none but
- 2:11:24
10 games next time your little young ass will miss it and your super wealthy girlfriend is
- 2:11:30
going to look at you a different way when you go from [ __ ] 500 000 a week to 50.
- 2:11:40
we'll see and until then it's unfortunate though because these
- 2:11:45
[ __ ] just kids teaching them consequences of their actions baby
- 2:11:50
i'm cutting this off because i ain't even playing with mike like that ain't playing yeah you can't put it micah did design you know i'd buy the
- 2:11:57
jill button pocket i don't like that they played my songs um what else do we got kanye's haircut
- 2:12:03
do we need a deep dive on that do we he changes we don't need a deep dive he changed his name to yay and then the
- 2:12:09
stupid haircut came out and my [ __ ] weird creative ass 100 saw yay on the
- 2:12:15
back of his head surrounded by design i thought that was cool i thought it was different i thought it was weird you see
- 2:12:20
yeah no there's the a right there pull it back up pull it back up the big pick on the cliff of his head
- 2:12:27
you see a y right on the left hand side you see that y i think i must be do y'all not see the y
- 2:12:33
on the cliff this cliff right here y'all don't see that one going that way
- 2:12:39
yeah now faded is the top of the e and the rest of that is indeed an e it's
- 2:12:45
just artsy and that says yay right in the back cliff of his head i don't see it the rest of that appears the rest of
- 2:12:52
that appears to be a design scream man point the white surrounding the yay
- 2:12:58
that's the y that's the y and the e right there's the y to the right of it is the e faded there
- 2:13:04
and bold is the second and oh see i thought it was the y and then that [ __ ] part of the y made to like the white
- 2:13:11
joint together it is yeah that's what it says okay so once i saw that i was like oh man
- 2:13:17
this guy's genius again he does it again yeah it could be stupid but along with the name change along
- 2:13:23
with all of his walt disney and steve jobs comparisons this is in luke right in line with all that so shout out to
- 2:13:30
kanye for getting what he wanted so you know what i think now that we've brought this dumbass haircut up
- 2:13:36
i think kanye just be trolling [ __ ] like yo i bet you i could just do this and they're going to find yay in here
- 2:13:41
somewhere that [ __ ] don't say yay at all and he's rich enough to have had a better barber that could have put up with him
- 2:13:48
he out that's why his art his son did it out of here but it does say yeah and he did change his name to yay and
- 2:13:54
we've known that we know that he always wanted to change his name to yay and he did that all at the same time he said
- 2:13:59
yes it could be the word most seen in the bible is yeah that is true so it could be well it's
- 2:14:05
true he said so um so yeah it could be trolling but trolling
- 2:14:13
when you just don't understand the science behind why somebody's watch somebody's doing what they're doing
- 2:14:18
shout out to kanye good luck to him still still one of the albums of the year for me i say
- 2:14:25
sat down this weekend and tried to put my albums of the year list together so far
- 2:14:30
couldn't right i ran out i was watching i was reaching after a couple yeah
- 2:14:36
two like last last year i did 20. right so i said i wrote down one through 20.
- 2:14:42
and then i said you know let me see if i could fill in so far i know some [ __ ] is coming you know but i just let me see
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how much i could fill in now boy was it rough i was just saying that last week that
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it's been a weird year for music i mean there's some [ __ ] that's guaranteed on there but i was just like
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all right uh that's it um
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yeah i don't have none man you're good we're good you're good you're good i'm good
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you're good all righty then i want to toast with my guys man
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not only is this the first day that you both got to my house before noon everybody got there on time
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yeah first day the first day first day that happened man round of applause
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also the first day that ish is not eating 300 worth of food
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while we've been recording the pod turn it up man he'll get to his body his body goes soon what's the goldish
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this nigga's a nut ball he's just
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keep his yearning for candy and sweets in your prayers keep his twizzler addiction in your
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prayers almond joy and goober addiction in your
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prayers as a 49 year old man
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y'all hold it down man until the next time we bid you would do
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farewell adios arribaderci hasta la vista so long goodbye and all that good stuff
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please remember life is a series of moments and moments pass
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hey so let's make this one last as if it's all that we have and last but not
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least hey
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the baddies are insecure the stagnant women want to travel they're closed-minded women want you to
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teach them things and for her birthday she wants you to go all out like it's your birthday man
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don't forget that we're gonna get out of here y'all be safe keep your head on a swivel ignore what
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you hear in these rapper lyrics get yourself killed out here be safe
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spin the block if you want bring your ass back around
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memorize the card just can't no no they memorized the card go ahead and spin the block go ahead
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yo operation stay alive till 2022 is still in effect please be safe out there we
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love you all thank you all for joining thank you all for listening and we see you all same time same place
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saturday it goes [Laughter]
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[Music]
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you