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Episode 487

Mob Ties

Joe Budden Podcast Episode 487, “Mob Ties,” released November 11, 2021. There's a ton to cover this episode due to the massive amount of newsworthy headlines this weekend, and Joe gets to it all! They begin with understanding the difference between a "toxic" partner and someone who's labelled "crazy" (24:21). Next, Joe and the crew discuss the tragedy at Travis Scott's Astroworld festival (43:20). Also, Ye (formerly known as Kanye West) attempts to mend issues with Drake in an awkwardly recorded video (1:19:05), and Leonardo DiCaprio continues to show why he's in a class of his own beyond his acting talent (1:42:52). The guys also recap Starz hit-series, "BMF", Steph Curry sends a message to Trae Young (2:13:53) and MORE! Full transcript and searchable timestamps below.

Mob Ties

In this episode

  • 24:21They begin with understanding the difference between a "toxic" partner and someone who's labelled "crazy"
  • 43:20Next, Joe and the crew discuss the tragedy at Travis Scott's Astroworld festival
  • 1:19:05Ye (formerly known as Kanye West) attempts to mend issues with Drake in an awkwardly recorded video
  • 1:42:52Leonardo DiCaprio continues to show why he's in a class of his own beyond his acting talent
  • 2:13:53The guys also recap Starz hit-series, "BMF", Steph Curry sends a message to Trae Young
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Joe Budden Podcast Ep. 487 Transcript

Full transcript of Mob Ties (1:11:24 long). Search it, or click any timestamp to jump to that moment.

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    breaking the screen of your iphone is

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    where we were off microphone right now i

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    know that sounds like nothing

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    but i'll admit

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    i'm having some issues too it's been a

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    while since i cracked it i've never

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    cracked the iphone screen the cutesy

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    little case i have the max the big one

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    so the cutesy little magnetic case you

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    got me i've dropped it enough to where

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    the right bottom corner

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    is now chipped uh a lot right you feel a

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    weakness coming of the on the screen you

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    say on the iphone look

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    yeah look look at the back of the case

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    when i hold the phone you hold it and

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    you lean it on your pinky right i gotta

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    [ __ ] that little sharp

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    uh whatever that is

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    has [ __ ] my pinky up so you know these

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    are 40 year old problems that i don't

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    normally share with people because who

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    cares

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    who cares about that i'm trying to not

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    curse the first 20 minutes watch this

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    because y'all fans pissing me off you

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    know what you do

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    you buy a new case

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    i guess that's a reasonable uh

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    or or or you cut your pinky off man just

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    depends on how you built i bought a

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    brand new kitchen

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    i mean when i seen the movie saw for the

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    first time and he was in that situation

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    where you cut your ankle off or you just

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    die

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    i mean what you're gonna do it's a

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    little different but okay slightly

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    different yeah just a little bit so

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    y'all never thought about having to cut

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    off on your own limbs no why why

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    not haven't been putting my position

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    into where i had to cut off any of my

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    limbs not my brains normally how much of

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    your brain y'all think y'all use that

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    y'all never thought about that well what

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    are you talking about what are you

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    talking about what's the normal stuff

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    that sounds crazy to me that you never

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    thought about having to cut off one of

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    your own limbs that's crazy that we have

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    it

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    that's the crazy part right

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    i mean i guess you think when you watch

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    saul or when you hear rizza say you

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    gotta chew his [ __ ] arm off to make

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    an escape but you don't really think

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    about it like in a regular day-to-day

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    days i see why women think men are so

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    stupid well we are

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    well we are

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    but every time we talk it just comes out

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    more and more so with that belief what

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    do you think about women that uh prefer

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    to see a uh what do you call it a bulla

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    a moola

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    a doula doula a doula

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    what do you think about the women that

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    prefer to see a doula versus going to a

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    hospital to have what's a doula the

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    person that helps you

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    home birth what am

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    no i'm with it but i'm saying under that

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    thinking

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    like that y'all look at that face y'all

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    are looking at me uh about saying that

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    y'all never thought about that like what

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    do y'all think of them no i think

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    because

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    i've thought about this you've seen

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    hello we know what parallel mean

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    profound

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    [Laughter]

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    what if i didn't like being teased

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    don't see all people

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    uh

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    that works

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    ding ding ding yo i'm never subscribing

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    today we know never we know we know

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    y'all know i'm never subscribing to not

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    teasing people

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    i can deal with being teased better than

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    people can deal with being teased so i

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    take it

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    could you one thousand would have been

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    teased my whole life

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    the one day i got love is when i came

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    out

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    other than that i've been teased

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    i'll take it back too

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    but go ahead come on

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    cause i'm doing cutting your penis

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    because i'm appealing to a brother good

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    dog i know

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    when you watch these movies right or

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    when you think about

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    uh

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    [ __ ] people having uh certain health

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    conditions on the plane and then they

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    scream out yo is there a doctor or a

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    nurse on board or some [ __ ] like that

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    what if there's not right

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    what if there's something that's

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    cancerous or corroded in one of your

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    limbs where it might spread

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    i mean as you age people have health

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    issues you think of this you think of

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    this [ __ ] i don't know how y'all don't

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    think of it but cool so i think if

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    there's no hospital and there's no

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    doctor and there's no nothing and that

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    situation would have happened

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    yeah i'm grabbing the biggest knife or

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    machete i could find and i'm cutting the

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    limb off i'm cutting it off myself i'll

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    deal with the pain know what happens we

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    watch the drug dealer movies and and

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    when they're trying to stage the crime

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    sometimes you see them shoot themselves

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    right right we'd be like

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    but i understand so that's where i think

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    of that i'm shocked that y'all have

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    never thought of that no you know what i

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    want to know how to do let's hear it

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    all right i'm getting it no for real i

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    really don't let a little no no no no

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    you watch the movies

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    you seen this [ __ ] with jennifer lopez

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    when the snake was chasing him

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    yeah

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    right

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    i love

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    i thought he meant when ben affleck kept

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    running all around town oh no that was

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    that no that was uh a-rod

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    yo leaving a-rod for ben affleck is nuts

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    but i was leaving that alone why tell me

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    why that is nuts that's mine and women's

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    business

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    wise nuts dog i'm listening

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    for you for real i'm dead ass all right

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    we're taking away the fact that he was

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    her ex right mm-hmm

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    now we even in playing field

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    ben affleck while she was with him yo

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    i'm aware how this sounds

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    this sounds like hey

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    it's different

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    it sounds like stuff that i shouldn't

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    even be discussing or thinking but i'm

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    cool important thank you for the comfort

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    of your home i'm

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    let me announce we are on vacation

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    friday the 12th

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    and that next no saturday the 13th and

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    that wednesday whatever that date is and

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    we're back saturday the 20th now that

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    that's out the way when she was with him

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    right you were sizing up a rock no i

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    wasn't siding up anybody oh but when she

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    was with him

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    her acting career took a hit right yes

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    when she was with ben

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    it did no that's giggly no no no that's

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    giggly you're not gonna talk no no no no

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    no no no that's not true that's giggly

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    that's giggly that's made in manhattan

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    you remember all of that slander you

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    were no no no made manhattan and [ __ ]

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    what's the [ __ ] um yo they both couldn't

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    get a job while they were together

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    ben had to get batman to get back in the

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    scene you know the run ben had to go on

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    batman the town he had to go crazy after

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    that

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    y'all know what they were saying man

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    come on ish if you didn't hear it then

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    what i'm saying i don't so count that

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    there

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    dealing with you i have to deal with

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    career

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    slander right

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    you also broke my heart

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    it's been some pain there

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    cool she broke his heart

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    yeah yeah he left me for the rapid boy

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    he was running ratchet caught a charge

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    he was bugging out nah she [ __ ] with ben

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    after puff

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    she [ __ ] with ben after her after i got

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    my time wrong yeah

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    major league baseball took steroids had

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    a [ __ ] whole

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    ring going for years okay came back as a

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    commentator got forgiveness

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    got the little spray tan

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    we got a little come on man got the

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    spray tan what you got

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    we got like three max contracts

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    he was the first like 800 million up

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    something

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    from the range all i'm saying is when

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    you put it on paper and take emotion out

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    in history and i think ben got a couple

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    bucks too though no i'm about to crack

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    them go ahead tell me i think that when

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    you put it on paper you sound like a bad

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    [ __ ] out here you know fam

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    jennifer lopez no no no no jennifer

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    lopez in her own right is a a couple

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    hundred million up

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    yes she don't care about the paper yeah

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    no now

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    but no she don't care about how to do

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    looks on paper because she's in a

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    financial position but that don't matter

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    normally

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    she don't need your spanky so again how

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    this [ __ ] makes me feel and all that

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    other [ __ ] is more important why we

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    don't date more them

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    let's let's get into like

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    male bull bulls so you wanna know the

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    truth we are why don't we date more them

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    you know like the girls just running

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    around saying like fds broke dudes yeah

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    like why we don't love ourselves more

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    and say you know what

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    it's up for y'all until i find

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    her

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    that person no that's that's

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    why we don't need it in your 40s i can

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    tell you why no that's not true

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    because we don't know where to find them

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    no it's not that it's because

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    a lot of

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    it no more and you're wanted it's a

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    different totally different your dick

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    game coming to play everything coming to

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    play the sense of humor coming to play

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    yeah intelligence come into play all of

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    the [ __ ] don't have none of that the

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    intangible [ __ ] comes into play

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    i got this bag right here i'm gonna use

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    this to control her and get whatever i

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    want and have her do what i want you

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    want me to take that cla back you better

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    shut your [ __ ] mouth you'll be right

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    back in norco dyke

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    you better shut up

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    i'm sorry

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    you want that little three series you

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    better shut your [ __ ] mouth and you

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    know what they want it so what they did

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    they [ __ ] mouth now what happened if

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    she don't need your little three series

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    money now you gotta bring other

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    qualities to the table that's something

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    now you can't now you can't even hold

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    her attention

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    oh deuces when you ladies got your hands

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    on that little cls boy with hot stuff

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    there was hot stuff with their cls

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    wasn't they

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    i was outside i remember it i remember

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    too and the x3 don't forget when the x3

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    i see a

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    cls was a different vibe though the

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    shorty had one

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    little blue chumpy i know that [ __ ] was

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    all right they was outside why they

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    stopped making their car well they can't

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    even make cars no more let me shut up

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    mic check one two one two man i ain't

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    even here to part i'm on vacation but i

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    am caught up on bmf not really yo even i

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    said i'm caught on bmf how bmf comes on

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    is dope huh you ain't watch seven

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    seven isn't officially out ice

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    only you yo only you got it i know i'm

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    just saying only you know i just want to

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    brag about his little boy

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    i definitely have it in my phone

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    how to get that i didn't know it was

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    available i don't know that that is a

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    possibility ice is the oh actually old

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    yeah last week that they were like yo

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    what you ain't seeing the girl plex i'm

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    like what the [ __ ] is that

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    bougie ass tech [ __ ]

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    i have it in my phone episode 7 but i

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    don't want to betray 50 cent meech

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    t

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    little meat stars little meach i don't

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    want to betray anyone and watch it they

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    were talking really spicy the stars

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    but at the end of six i do want to watch

  • 11:03

    it boy

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    no but then you it's the same [ __ ] cause

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    now you still gotta wait another

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    cliffhanging every episode yeah yeah you

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    gotta say well i'm mad that i started

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    watching it when i did i wish i had

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    waited three weeks because now i'm gonna

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    put up and it's just yeah just right

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    through the [ __ ] you got two left it's

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    good though right

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    i really like it nah [ __ ] is good i

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    really like it this is not an ad stars

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    pay but pay 50 first

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    not dawg

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    yo so this little scene spoiler alert

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    this little scene that very reminiscent

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    of uh i like how they did that little

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    omar tribute they didn't say it but that

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    was a homo tribute it was yeah yeah that

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    was nice

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    i don't know if i've seen that oh okay

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    well let's just play caught up mic check

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    one two one two mike check let me jam

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    out for a little bit shout out to the

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    ladies listening ladies

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    [Music]

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    parks i'm always doing it for the ladies

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    guys you should i'm not i don't want to

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    hang out with a million dicks like these

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    [ __ ] do i never did never even when i

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    was young never hey

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    let me catch this vibe right quick

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    and it go

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    and shout out to chad yo my man chad is

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    in bmf

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    sweetest guy you ever want to meet man

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    who shot chad ran the truck

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    the food truck that was his truck

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    alfonzo alonso yeah yeah fonzo's

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    whatever that was

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    yo and the show is real good cause i

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    spent some time in detroit and because i

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    spent some time in detroit that's just

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    how i'm on it right now yeah i mean

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    very important moment in

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    women taking over hip-hop that i

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    overlooked cause i was busy [ __ ]

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    [ __ ]

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    one night stands in melody this is that

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    error and i didn't understand i didn't

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    understand what was happening every time

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    days loaf came on i might have called

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    ice i was like yo what's up with shorty

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    man like what's this

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    like what's this what's going on like

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    school me you know sometimes be hot [ __ ]

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    be hot regionally and you might just not

  • 12:54

    get it and i didn't get her when she

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    came out right but that was before bodak

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    yellow

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    before hot girl summer

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    uh

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    rap city was there but before her

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    emergence yeah

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    this was before all of that

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    so i apologize because i was confused in

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    that bridge

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    and she don't get the respect that she

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    gets for being the bridge and she still

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    put out hot [ __ ] like

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    last year a couple years ago she keep

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    they keep pulling up her features and

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    stuff too right she she stays busy yeah

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    well watching bmf

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    and watching them move around detroit

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    and watching cash doll do such a great

  • 13:45

    job shout out to cash dog eminem is in

  • 13:48

    the next episode

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    i said dan that would be great if days

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    just popped up in this [ __ ]

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    detroit detroit yeah i get it

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    that would be hard there's a role for

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    her in this she could even play uh

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    what's the name kato is her name yeah

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    yeah

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    they're a little slow in figuring her

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    out but it's cool it's cool all right we

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    got a pod to do where y'all here they're

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    getting better i appreciate it good boy

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    man you don't care

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    yes you should do that

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    that's a lie he's lying he's lying he

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    might not be that's a lie that might not

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    he might not be yeah if you see a girl

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    and mismatch panties and bra you care

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    stop

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    [ __ ] kill i appreciate it more with

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    you

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    damn i do not care i'm here to [ __ ] not

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    that [ __ ] coming off it ain't effective

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    but i appreciate it with that extra mile

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    the only time i'm gonna be real with you

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    only time that matching [ __ ] counts is

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    if you send in some seductive picture or

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    something like that if i'm about to [ __ ]

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    i don't care what you have on cause it's

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    all coming off if you're trying to

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    entice me and all of that [ __ ] with the

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    matching set okay that's yeah you are a

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    br you're a ghetto dude

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    well you are hey

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    but when the chick got on matching bra

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    and panties and they quality some little

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    pearl of [ __ ] that [ __ ] hit different

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    why is he a hood with some nice toes

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    i don't need it but it's appreciated she

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    can have a t-shirt on and nothing else

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    that stop right there you know the

  • 15:12

    t-shirt is that shirt is better than a

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    larger ring oh the launcher no no no the

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    t-shirt only is better than the light it

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    is t-shirt and boy shorts is like

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    i didn't say anything about lingerie i

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    know no i'm just saying matching bra and

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    panties yeah the bar is in hell yeah i

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    just asked for a matching brush and a

  • 15:34

    panty set growing up stop it's ice fault

  • 15:36

    that the bar is in hell yo

  • 15:39

    let me tell for 10 years for 10 years

  • 15:42

    maybe 15 years you couldn't even walk by

  • 15:44

    victoria's secret without them having a

  • 15:46

    big sand box of matching brandy's

  • 15:49

    panties and bra pretty you're still in

  • 15:51

    the front of the store okay boy they are

  • 15:53

    out of business y'all getting ready to

  • 15:54

    say it's about they're all out of

  • 15:55

    business now these big titty chicks is

  • 15:57

    [ __ ] in pain fenty is on the way

  • 16:00

    frederick's left

  • 16:01

    vicki's left i ain't seen a friend

  • 16:03

    i don't see him no more you [ __ ] it's

  • 16:05

    an express struggling what they win

  • 16:07

    target draws

  • 16:11

    your target draws

  • 16:13

    use

  • 16:14

    haynes

  • 16:16

    haynesduck

  • 16:18

    they wearing savage fenty

  • 16:20

    oh everybody can't afford that skims

  • 16:22

    came out oh oh

  • 16:24

    skims came out i'm not gonna pretend

  • 16:27

    like i know what the brands is that's a

  • 16:28

    little that's good

  • 16:29

    besides yeah scams i thought that was

  • 16:31

    like uh athleisure fenty's her wait

  • 16:33

    skim's kim i never knew

  • 16:38

    and apparently they did a big some type

  • 16:39

    of bundle package something new i don't

  • 16:41

    know but if you talk to girls they did a

  • 16:44

    collaboration with somebody yo the women

  • 16:45

    are excited about everything but dick i

  • 16:48

    don't know if people are noticing i know

  • 16:49

    this no they just hide it they hide it

  • 16:51

    very i know but they're hiding it from

  • 16:53

    the world now it's not just their home

  • 16:54

    girls and they ain't hunting from that

  • 16:56

    [ __ ] they're vibrators well no we're

  • 16:57

    the only ones that know they ain't

  • 16:59

    hiding it from roscoe ross gonna know

  • 17:06

    late night roscoe's getting texts [ __ ]

  • 17:08

    yeah but if a joke ain't a joke if we

  • 17:10

    never get serious if they don't tell

  • 17:11

    nobody else it's only us that no if

  • 17:13

    we're the only thing real we're the only

  • 17:14

    thing fake it's a myth

  • 17:16

    dick is like a urban legend now unless

  • 17:19

    except for when she show up

  • 17:21

    sex toys is getting fancy

  • 17:24

    the rose

  • 17:25

    nah the rose don't replace the dick

  • 17:28

    don't choke

  • 17:29

    no hair don't suck no toes the rules

  • 17:32

    ain't they're just like in your mouth

  • 17:34

    [ __ ] if they make a rose with arms then

  • 17:37

    some of us is done

  • 17:40

    speak for yourself i'm never speaking

  • 17:42

    for myself i'm never speaking for myself

  • 17:58

    stop

  • 18:02

    you talk about the rolls with arms the

  • 18:04

    girls make me mad

  • 18:06

    and we know the girls

  • 18:14

    go ahead bro

  • 18:18

    the girls that like [ __ ] older dudes

  • 18:20

    they come over and they want to get the

  • 18:22

    [ __ ] old to do right and then what

  • 18:23

    happens is the older dude show you that

  • 18:26

    that

  • 18:32

    and then you learn them something good

  • 18:34

    right and then they happy that dick

  • 18:37

    ain't the old then they happy that the

  • 18:39

    rest of the world think that you got old

  • 18:42

    slavy ass whacked tired dick

  • 18:46

    and then they won't tell nobody

  • 18:48

    why would they do you want to broadcast

  • 18:50

    it i'm letting you know all the reasons

  • 18:52

    why you will remain a myth

  • 18:54

    um nothing that you could do to even get

  • 18:56

    out of mid land

  • 18:59

    because now you would now you're a [ __ ]

  • 19:00

    ass [ __ ] go ahead and get out of

  • 19:01

    mifflin not if you're a celebrity though

  • 19:03

    you're a celebrity

  • 19:05

    a jace

  • 19:06

    no

  • 19:07

    so they they want they want to talk

  • 19:09

    they'll talk

  • 19:10

    it's dangerous can't do that

  • 19:13

    you could you get in the celebrity land

  • 19:14

    too you can't just poke around like that

  • 19:16

    see you got a girl and that's where my

  • 19:18

    jealousy comes from with y'all because

  • 19:20

    women keep men

  • 19:22

    like safe and grounded and drunk

  • 19:26

    they protect us from ourselves that's

  • 19:28

    right so whatever i'm doing is over here

  • 19:31

    y'all is home like so when y'all make

  • 19:34

    brain make a man decision y'all got

  • 19:36

    somebody right there to be like yo babe

  • 19:38

    you don't even normally move like that

  • 19:39

    anything all right

  • 19:41

    right

  • 19:42

    you're right yeah i'm i'm i'm agreeing

  • 19:44

    with you he was in the shower a little

  • 19:45

    long this morning everything okay like

  • 19:47

    if you got a woman that's paying

  • 19:49

    attention to you i'm saying what does

  • 19:50

    that mean what the shower

  • 19:53

    if you just if she's thinking of you and

  • 19:54

    taking her own

  • 19:56

    interest out of it she won't think you

  • 19:57

    in there calling your side chick she'll

  • 19:59

    be like wow she noticed that she was in

  • 20:01

    there just a little longer this morning

  • 20:04

    is everything okay like you know you go

  • 20:06

    in the bathroom and try to escape some

  • 20:07

    things you stay in the shower longer let

  • 20:08

    the water just pour and you stand there

  • 20:10

    you'll sit in the toilet longer your

  • 20:12

    [ __ ] was done 30 minutes ago that's true

  • 20:14

    and you're just sitting here leg being

  • 20:15

    numb but your girl

  • 20:16

    but your girl will notice that you're

  • 20:18

    paying attention right

  • 20:20

    now if you don't think you texting your

  • 20:21

    side

  • 20:23

    then she might say hey anything good i'm

  • 20:25

    on the gram

  • 20:27

    still i just i like what i just like the

  • 20:30

    attentiveness no

  • 20:31

    just just being just noticing that hey

  • 20:34

    something's a little different than

  • 20:35

    anything right but if you notice him

  • 20:36

    with negative intentions or negative

  • 20:38

    connotation i don't wanna it's a way to

  • 20:40

    notice without attacking or anything i

  • 20:42

    agree like finding out i know like

  • 20:44

    that's why yo what you in there doing

  • 20:46

    yeah it's different than the other yeah

  • 20:47

    you know everything right well that's

  • 20:48

    why i get i get i get mad i won't say

  • 20:51

    man but it's a pet peeve of mine when

  • 20:52

    you hit my phone with smoke without even

  • 20:54

    seeing my current status oh yeah yeah

  • 20:56

    i'm down for smoke nah but you're saying

  • 20:58

    i don't want to smoke smoke yeah i don't

  • 21:00

    want smoke but we can have smoke as in

  • 21:03

    conversation about whatever you're sure

  • 21:04

    sure sure but check what's happening on

  • 21:06

    this side first

  • 21:08

    how's how's my mood that's my minute

  • 21:09

    like you ain't answering

  • 21:11

    my last four hours yeah i'm in the car

  • 21:13

    accident with a tire on it

  • 21:16

    am i in a space to even handle you the

  • 21:18

    way i want to handle you probably not so

  • 21:21

    i'ma say something now you gonna get mad

  • 21:22

    and it's gonna linger for the next two

  • 21:24

    three weeks but we lit together it's

  • 21:25

    nasty i'm glad i don't deal with that

  • 21:26

    type of [ __ ] yeah me either

  • 21:28

    me either

  • 21:31

    but you know what i think that

  • 21:34

    that's why i think men fall short

  • 21:37

    everywhere no you set the stage for that

  • 21:39

    in the beginning

  • 21:40

    like when you're dealing with jealous

  • 21:42

    chicks or when you're dealing with

  • 21:43

    insecure women or you're dealing with

  • 21:44

    any of that [ __ ] you gotta nip that [ __ ]

  • 21:46

    in the bud early in the relationship

  • 21:49

    look look look i don't do that i know

  • 21:51

    you might be accustomed to other [ __ ]

  • 21:52

    doing that i don't do that and if you

  • 21:54

    want to see where this goes

  • 21:56

    we not doing that right you can't i'm

  • 21:58

    saying you could do that with them you

  • 21:59

    can't do that with my wife i'm not them

  • 22:01

    yeah yeah i'm not them so i don't even

  • 22:03

    play that game you're not calling you're

  • 22:05

    not getting out of pocket verbally

  • 22:06

    you're not doing none of this [ __ ]

  • 22:08

    because i don't move like that so you

  • 22:09

    can't do that to me

  • 22:11

    and you gotta understand and make them

  • 22:12

    recognize that they really can't get

  • 22:14

    away with that [ __ ] it stops it's a task

  • 22:16

    it stops though if you stop and

  • 22:18

    understood some women think that like a

  • 22:20

    fight is a sign of

  • 22:22

    adoration adoration yeah and it's not

  • 22:24

    yeah it's not at all and they've been in

  • 22:26

    relationships them toxic relationships

  • 22:28

    yo i read some [ __ ] it was real crazy

  • 22:31

    um

  • 22:32

    this lady was getting her hair done

  • 22:35

    and she said she went to a homegirl

  • 22:36

    house her homegirl braid you know that

  • 22:38

    should be taking hours yeah so she said

  • 22:40

    the lady had two kids

  • 22:43

    and she was like yo the kids was running

  • 22:44

    around going crazy kind of distracted

  • 22:46

    him so the lady's husband left that do

  • 22:48

    the braiding

  • 22:49

    she called and was like babe can you

  • 22:50

    come get them because they

  • 22:52

    and she said the dude came fifteen

  • 22:54

    minutes later picked him up left with

  • 22:56

    the kids to get them away from from

  • 22:58

    shorty distracted yeah so she can do her

  • 23:00

    job she said yo to him it took a little

  • 23:02

    long he ain't eat i know you're gonna be

  • 23:04

    hungry when he came home ordered food

  • 23:06

    for him like good [ __ ] for him and she

  • 23:08

    said yo she had never been in a

  • 23:09

    relationship one where if she could have

  • 23:12

    told her dude to come back and get the

  • 23:13

    kids he would have came back

  • 23:15

    without beef then number two because she

  • 23:18

    was braiding hair and knew that he

  • 23:20

    didn't eat she ordered like dope [ __ ]

  • 23:23

    for him knowing that he was gonna be

  • 23:24

    hungry and she didn't get an opportunity

  • 23:26

    to cook for him small [ __ ] like that is

  • 23:30

    huge she was yo she was like yo it

  • 23:32

    [ __ ] her up

  • 23:34

    to see that and she was like yo i [ __ ]

  • 23:36

    her up to say yo i've been in all these

  • 23:38

    toxic situations where small things like

  • 23:41

    your husband coming back to get the kids

  • 23:43

    to help you work

  • 23:45

    is looked at like wow

  • 23:48

    or the chick making sure that her dude

  • 23:50

    eats

  • 23:51

    is like wow you know what i'm saying

  • 23:53

    like we've really been in some [ __ ] up

  • 23:55

    situations where girls could look at the

  • 23:57

    bar is in hell

  • 23:59

    like that's adoration that's really what

  • 24:01

    it is girls really think that [ __ ] is

  • 24:02

    cute arguing that [ __ ] ain't cute man

  • 24:05

    yeah if you are if you if you argue that

  • 24:07

    is not right back you care that's right

  • 24:09

    yeah that's what they think yeah yeah

  • 24:10

    that's exactly what they did but but

  • 24:12

    that's to y'all was like yo i like a

  • 24:13

    little bit of

  • 24:15

    crazy i don't mean

  • 24:21

    but for me crazy and toxic are not the

  • 24:25

    same and i know today

  • 24:27

    it is a very fun life but today it is a

  • 24:29

    fine line and that one can lead to the

  • 24:31

    other very quickly that makes it tough

  • 24:33

    enough to distinguish as is but today

  • 24:36

    when we group a whole bunch of words

  • 24:38

    that people just use and don't really

  • 24:40

    know that yeah people just meaning of

  • 24:42

    the word it gets even tougher to

  • 24:44

    identify more yeah yeah true yeah so

  • 24:47

    like right when i said like a little bit

  • 24:48

    of crazy i mean

  • 24:51

    if i were to cheat let me consider where

  • 24:53

    this [ __ ] hands might be

  • 24:56

    that's what i mean

  • 24:58

    that's not necessarily

  • 25:02

    toxic

  • 25:04

    because nothing happened

  • 25:05

    what you mean though

  • 25:08

    if i cheat let me consider where her

  • 25:10

    knuckles are

  • 25:12

    let's reverse it it's funny because i

  • 25:14

    just been having some of these

  • 25:15

    conversations on a little chatty

  • 25:18

    right but let's reverse it

  • 25:21

    how many times you went to the store for

  • 25:22

    a dutch

  • 25:25

    me

  • 25:26

    i don't smoke so

  • 25:28

    wait

  • 25:29

    how many times

  • 25:31

    have [ __ ] sent you to the store to get

  • 25:33

    a dutch and a sunkist

  • 25:39

    not at 45 i'm sure you probably went to

  • 25:40

    the store for someone before in your

  • 25:42

    life

  • 25:43

    i think he's going somewhere with it

  • 25:44

    like you making up a story to go out the

  • 25:46

    house for a touch

  • 25:47

    no

  • 25:48

    how many times in your 45 years on earth

  • 25:52

    has a man

  • 25:54

    said to you

  • 25:55

    yo little [ __ ]

  • 25:57

    go to the store

  • 25:58

    get this list get yourself something

  • 26:01

    nice too

  • 26:02

    how many times that happened

  • 26:04

    don't answer me

  • 26:06

    answer me

  • 26:07

    whatever you answered when i was like 10

  • 26:08

    or 11 maybe i haven't had that happen

  • 26:11

    nah that happened to me when i was like

  • 26:12

    10 11 years old teenagers all right

  • 26:15

    first intern

  • 26:16

    that's what you did all right

  • 26:18

    that was the end and that was the end

  • 26:20

    right yes i haven't had that ever mostly

  • 26:22

    in my teens but like i said when i was

  • 26:23

    interns at studios

  • 26:25

    true

  • 26:26

    oh yeah yeah true

  • 26:27

    true

  • 26:28

    so are you taking i've heard from enough

  • 26:30

    women

  • 26:34

    that guy that was getting sent to the

  • 26:37

    store to get the list for the [ __ ] on

  • 26:39

    the block

  • 26:41

    it ain't the cutest it's not like they

  • 26:43

    ain't the most attractive man they don't

  • 26:45

    like that [ __ ]

  • 26:47

    they don't like that [ __ ]

  • 26:48

    they don't it's the girls don't like it

  • 26:50

    it's not something that men even really

  • 26:52

    think about

  • 26:53

    but it's one of those things that the

  • 26:55

    women will pay attention to they

  • 26:56

    watching when you they watching when

  • 26:57

    they go to your block how your [ __ ]

  • 26:59

    just talk until you're treated oh yeah

  • 27:00

    they make some of that stuff right

  • 27:02

    so for me

  • 27:05

    when you fall in love or you meet a girl

  • 27:08

    never in my wildest dreams did i did it

  • 27:10

    ever cross my mind hey does she have

  • 27:12

    hands

  • 27:14

    because you just don't think that you're

  • 27:15

    attracted to

  • 27:16

    some other things until that becomes

  • 27:19

    important i'm so lost on the correlation

  • 27:21

    i'm letting them get there

  • 27:23

    no it's there for women you bump into

  • 27:26

    that where you learn

  • 27:27

    oh

  • 27:28

    she is not for players it's not for me i

  • 27:31

    can't i can't

  • 27:33

    i can't play with this [ __ ] a certain

  • 27:35

    type of way because he don't go to the

  • 27:38

    store for [ __ ]

  • 27:39

    that's what i'm saying i got you hey

  • 27:41

    there's a certain invisible line of just

  • 27:43

    respect for the person i'm attracted to

  • 27:46

    where

  • 27:47

    oh i can't play with him like that uh an

  • 27:49

    extreme example of that is when uh

  • 27:50

    [ __ ] be talking about their crazy

  • 27:52

    acts or the [ __ ] that's in jail so i

  • 27:53

    gotta watch how i move out here they

  • 27:54

    might come home get crazy right

  • 27:57

    bmf

  • 27:58

    like that but reverse

  • 28:01

    yes okay

  • 28:02

    y'all never y'all never

  • 28:04

    yeah i've been there for a year so i've

  • 28:06

    been there before so

  • 28:08

    i get what you're saying it's similar

  • 28:10

    before i've been there before it's

  • 28:11

    similar

  • 28:12

    toxic is

  • 28:14

    oh

  • 28:16

    yeah your view of men and your

  • 28:18

    relationships with men have been a

  • 28:20

    little bit of rocky maybe because your

  • 28:22

    relationship with dad has been rocky and

  • 28:25

    dad's relationship with mom has been

  • 28:27

    rocky so now your entire upbringing this

  • 28:29

    is all you know so this is your

  • 28:31

    environment so this is what you've

  • 28:32

    adulted into is this [ __ ] and this

  • 28:34

    sick idea of well you're just a little

  • 28:37

    mentally old but you lived and what you

  • 28:39

    experienced

  • 28:40

    is the norm and now in your adulthood

  • 28:42

    you got to go outside and find out what

  • 28:43

    the norm is cause it's outside it wasn't

  • 28:45

    in your house you were the anomaly

  • 28:47

    you're all at a small percentage right

  • 28:50

    and that

  • 28:51

    can look

  • 28:52

    toxic when you got to be in the

  • 28:54

    relationship and learn that she don't

  • 28:55

    know how to communicate she don't know

  • 28:56

    how to talk

  • 28:57

    you keep seeing her run away from [ __ ]

  • 28:59

    hey her friend did it wrong she ran away

  • 29:01

    left the group chat

  • 29:02

    hey such-and-such

  • 29:04

    her mom said some [ __ ] they stopped

  • 29:06

    talking for a few weeks you got to be in

  • 29:07

    there and peep these little things

  • 29:10

    yes months years

  • 29:12

    if that is if she don't [ __ ] with her

  • 29:14

    parents for any period of time that's a

  • 29:16

    telltale buddy

  • 29:18

    these are the things that if you're not

  • 29:20

    paying attention you'll be surprised if

  • 29:21

    you're not paying attention then that's

  • 29:23

    where you at with it and then when you

  • 29:24

    realize he's like oh [ __ ] the signs was

  • 29:26

    there you know i

  • 29:27

    know i should have peeped it i see him

  • 29:30

    first couple weeks i'm going to do

  • 29:32

    i see him yeah you better have a little

  • 29:34

    friend i promise you dog i see him like

  • 29:36

    in this age

  • 29:37

    if i start talking to you in in a week

  • 29:39

    or so

  • 29:41

    we don't just have

  • 29:43

    i am exit stage left and i will tell you

  • 29:46

    as politely as possible look this right

  • 29:49

    here is not for me we're not compatible

  • 29:50

    that's cause you're your age yeah like

  • 29:52

    i've been around i've seen that [ __ ]

  • 29:54

    i've asked i'm not enduring the arguing

  • 29:56

    the yelling the screaming i don't deal

  • 29:58

    with that

  • 29:59

    i've asked the younger dudes

  • 30:01

    you know dawg

  • 30:02

    when you see him in courtship and you

  • 30:04

    see you see when [ __ ] turn it on like

  • 30:05

    i'm about to turn it on i've asked dude

  • 30:07

    yo i've been watching you for a little

  • 30:09

    while and her

  • 30:11

    she has done abcd efg up to this point

  • 30:15

    what do you think you're gonna do when

  • 30:16

    you what you're gonna do when you stick

  • 30:17

    your dick in there and [ __ ] have said

  • 30:20

    cross that bridge when i get there yo i

  • 30:22

    told him yeah

  • 30:23

    yeah no no

  • 30:25

    real story no that's what they say i've

  • 30:26

    i've been that dude

  • 30:27

    i've been that dude

  • 30:28

    [Music]

  • 30:30

    me too i knew already like though she's

  • 30:33

    not sick now

  • 30:35

    she stick your dick in her is it you

  • 30:37

    know what's coming with that at 22. you

  • 30:39

    know what you when you were watching

  • 30:40

    younger

  • 30:43

    look younger that was part of the

  • 30:44

    attraction mm-hmm yeah it really was no

  • 30:46

    honestly if you really want to get in

  • 30:48

    man brain

  • 30:49

    let's go we're here now man brain is

  • 30:51

    this [ __ ] i can stupid now wait till i

  • 30:52

    put this sausage in her it's going to

  • 30:54

    calm all that down you will definitely

  • 30:56

    start why don't act like that stop it

  • 30:59

    and it happens it'd be kind of the

  • 31:01

    challenge to us the tame the cool yeah

  • 31:04

    it does yeah yeah and man that is a big

  • 31:06

    part of it that's a big part of that for

  • 31:08

    me it was that's the equivalent of them

  • 31:09

    seeing that the dude ain't [ __ ] and

  • 31:10

    saying i could change them yeah yeah no

  • 31:13

    because ain't [ __ ] and crazy is

  • 31:14

    different no but i'm saying you'll see

  • 31:16

    the warning signs of containment

  • 31:18

    it's the same it's the same thought

  • 31:19

    process yeah

  • 31:21

    i see something sometimes i can change i

  • 31:23

    can fix it dick dick has chained a mini

  • 31:25

    he been a piece of [ __ ] to everybody

  • 31:27

    it's gonna bounce back eventually no no

  • 31:29

    the cuckoo's gonna come out with the

  • 31:30

    better

  • 31:35

    and you start giving a dick to somebody

  • 31:37

    else and they're gonna start going ape

  • 31:38

    [ __ ] or they're gonna think you are they

  • 31:40

    start going april sometimes that's worse

  • 31:41

    yeah exactly yeah it's definitely not

  • 31:43

    sometimes it's always worse thinking i'm

  • 31:44

    worse thinking i'm doing something

  • 31:46

    that's a good point no no no i stand

  • 31:47

    corrected yeah that that that does make

  • 31:49

    it worse i should come right back i'm

  • 31:51

    wrong look i'm wrong

  • 31:53

    [Laughter]

  • 31:55

    [Music]

  • 31:57

    but again i just think that um back to

  • 32:00

    what you were saying

  • 32:01

    i don't want to deal with that and i'll

  • 32:02

    introduce the part after yeah

  • 32:04

    i don't want to deal with crazy slash

  • 32:06

    toxic i don't want to make the

  • 32:07

    determination of yo she's just crazy

  • 32:09

    she's not quite toxic i don't want to do

  • 32:11

    that no neither i won't either brother

  • 32:14

    [ __ ] is that oh no i just want to be

  • 32:15

    happy yeah dawg that [ __ ] is distracting

  • 32:17

    they ain't making you happy i'm cool

  • 32:18

    calm household every night

  • 32:21

    i can i can weather a occasional little

  • 32:23

    spat but forever yeah like no a normal a

  • 32:26

    normal disciple on the couch you know

  • 32:27

    every couple months because we had a

  • 32:29

    little argument when we was drunk that's

  • 32:30

    fine definitely depends on where you got

  • 32:32

    the spat from

  • 32:33

    yeah

  • 32:34

    that's true

  • 32:35

    that's true

  • 32:36

    yo look at that too but to women

  • 32:39

    listening on this is real rap that's

  • 32:40

    your home girl that said that which home

  • 32:42

    girl tell me

  • 32:44

    which blogs have you seen this tell me

  • 32:47

    tell me why

  • 32:49

    don't even like you hate your publicist

  • 32:52

    chick floyd's got some stupid idiot by

  • 32:54

    the side to [ __ ] guide them through

  • 32:56

    an important decision but uh to the

  • 32:58

    women listening for real for real

  • 33:00

    especially us as men

  • 33:03

    and black men in particular yeah you go

  • 33:05

    through so much [ __ ]

  • 33:07

    yeah and parks

  • 33:27

    [Laughter]

  • 33:47

    album

  • 34:00

    you can't really tell chicks all the

  • 34:01

    time you should move like oh [ __ ]

  • 34:14

    welcome to episode 487 of the joe budden

  • 34:16

    podcast i'm your humble gracious

  • 34:18

    grateful and highly favored host joe

  • 34:20

    budding here with some really kinky guys

  • 34:30

    i don't know what you [ __ ] doing in

  • 34:31

    your rooms but based on the stories that

  • 34:33

    y'all tell y'all

  • 34:35

    you don't have to say it to me again

  • 34:38

    i don't know what y'all doing in your

  • 34:39

    room

  • 34:40

    i don't know what you think we're doing

  • 34:42

    in our room sleeping and drinking all

  • 34:43

    over

  • 34:45

    eating asses

  • 34:55

    she get a birthday out of jail i don't

  • 34:57

    eat a lot of ass

  • 34:59

    i'm telling you something anybody don't

  • 35:00

    get that from joe i got different sex

  • 35:03

    packages ish that's you i believe you no

  • 35:05

    no no you didn't pull out that's not

  • 35:06

    true

  • 35:07

    everybody every man every time you go to

  • 35:09

    the car wash you get the fully full

  • 35:12

    you get the whole [ __ ] armor

  • 35:27

    [Applause]

  • 35:37

    yeah just give me the number two today

  • 35:39

    gold today oh [ __ ] buddy joe did you get

  • 35:42

    your car washed

  • 35:43

    oh you're anything i didn't look at it

  • 35:45

    today oh you got to watch would you yeah

  • 35:46

    look who ice has to check up on you no

  • 35:48

    no no it was probably so clairvoyant

  • 35:51

    look that don't mean that but so

  • 35:54

    i don't mean that but so it was probably

  • 35:56

    sitting there so

  • 36:08

    yo this [ __ ] here boy see that's rich

  • 36:11

    people chill this guy so what about the

  • 36:13

    birds

  • 36:15

    don't drive the car drive it to the car

  • 36:18

    wash that's kind of saucy though

  • 36:21

    that's kind of saucy if you think about

  • 36:22

    it yeah i agree

  • 36:24

    all right you're just a hater

  • 36:27

    come on we got man we got mad important

  • 36:30

    things

  • 36:31

    to get to or not really or not

  • 36:35

    all right all right all right

  • 36:38

    yo there are a lot there's so much to

  • 36:41

    talk about in hip-hop unfortunately

  • 36:43

    journalism is at a point today

  • 36:45

    to where we can't talk about that i'm

  • 36:48

    not talking about how this [ __ ] is the

  • 36:50

    wild wild west you got me [ __ ] up this

  • 36:52

    is the muffins

  • 36:56

    i'm not sure where you were going to

  • 36:57

    start but if you're certain where i

  • 36:58

    think you're going to start i'm cool you

  • 36:59

    know

  • 37:01

    thoughts and prayers

  • 37:02

    thoughts and prayers

  • 37:04

    no i got a cool sleep for the day

  • 37:13

    i heard enough stories listen thoughts

  • 37:16

    and prayers everything that i have

  • 37:17

    written down let me start with this

  • 37:19

    youtubers

  • 37:21

    audio listeners everything written down

  • 37:24

    is mob ties

  • 37:26

    [Music]

  • 37:27

    if you want to start with big bird get

  • 37:29

    in the vaccine

  • 37:31

    mob talks it's mob ties fair

  • 37:34

    if you want to start with kanye's

  • 37:36

    beautiful letter

  • 37:37

    mob ties it's mob allegedly

  • 37:41

    if you want to start with some of this

  • 37:44

    concert festival stuff

  • 37:47

    good luck how you doing it's mine

  • 37:51

    it's mob ties right let me see what else

  • 37:54

    i got written down because it's all mom

  • 37:55

    time

  • 37:57

    i mean leonardo dicaprio played in some

  • 37:59

    mob movies oh

  • 38:07

    so just different mobs

  • 38:09

    but

  • 38:10

    as we

  • 38:11

    as we enjoy this human experience

  • 38:14

    you learn

  • 38:16

    shut the [ __ ] there's mobs everywhere

  • 38:17

    it's all it's mobs all over it's mob's

  • 38:20

    all over and as i keep having to explain

  • 38:23

    to the new age civilians

  • 38:26

    i like this part today

  • 38:28

    i like it wayne nowhere near finish

  • 38:32

    the full circle moment is when y'all

  • 38:34

    were talking off mike about how old

  • 38:36

    sivan's dad is

  • 38:38

    the guy comes full circle

  • 38:40

    look at that

  • 38:42

    savon's dad is somewhere around my age

  • 38:44

    real [ __ ] shout damn round of applause

  • 38:46

    man that's my guy

  • 38:47

    beautiful [ __ ] senior that you shot

  • 38:49

    out there this kid

  • 38:52

    kid's beautiful this kid's great you

  • 38:54

    know when you meet somebody mom and

  • 38:55

    grandpa's yo you did a great job yo

  • 38:57

    yo

  • 38:58

    talked about your all-time job you did

  • 39:00

    how you raised yeah

  • 39:02

    like don't even matter if you were there

  • 39:03

    you owe me the jobs you did devon's

  • 39:05

    great right yes yes

  • 39:08

    that should be a constant reminder that

  • 39:11

    [ __ ] was born in one

  • 39:15

    98

  • 39:19

    what [ __ ]

  • 39:22

    96 son

  • 39:24

    yeah he was born when the fuji's dropped

  • 39:30

    if you listen real good you can hear how

  • 39:32

    stupid he is

  • 39:33

    he said 94.

  • 39:36

    same thing

  • 39:38

    as 94 in 2000 my god

  • 39:41

    it ain't hard to tell off the radio by

  • 39:43

    the time he wasn't even a thought before

  • 39:46

    that that's what i'm saying why do you

  • 39:47

    think the [ __ ] is he trauma

  • 39:50

    they think they old [ __ ] those people

  • 39:54

    exist we just our parents i had a dream

  • 39:58

    the other day that's all it is and i'm

  • 40:00

    sick

  • 40:01

    i had a dream the other day that

  • 40:04

    at adulthood

  • 40:06

    at every birthday you had

  • 40:09

    that's who you spent the year with

  • 40:11

    the people that were that age

  • 40:15

    you didn't see nobody else oh you

  • 40:17

    thought it was just but that your age

  • 40:20

    group and now y'all stuck as a community

  • 40:23

    having to escape the room let the 23

  • 40:25

    year olds be with the 23 year old all

  • 40:27

    year

  • 40:28

    yeah for the year and ask somebody turns

  • 40:30

    23 they enter that [ __ ] that's right

  • 40:32

    because iowa

  • 40:34

    what's going on

  • 40:40

    yo they would go crazy son

  • 40:43

    they would go crazy yo if you sit a

  • 40:44

    bunch of all the 24 year olds gotta be

  • 40:46

    with all the 24 year olds all year may

  • 40:49

    have mate straight

  • 40:51

    [ __ ]

  • 40:53

    nuts

  • 40:54

    you got to survive have you got to make

  • 40:56

    it to your 40s dawg rikers i'm so glad

  • 40:59

    it's right because i'm so glad dudes in

  • 41:01

    their 40s just don't break out in a fist

  • 41:03

    fight randomly like back in the day i'm

  • 41:06

    glad my child doesn't have to live

  • 41:07

    through that i forgot who i was talking

  • 41:08

    about fighting with the other day i was

  • 41:09

    just like i'm so glad i don't fight no

  • 41:11

    more yeah that is just for the birds

  • 41:13

    yeah like now the 20 year olds don't

  • 41:15

    break out into a fight either i know

  • 41:17

    they're backing out but that's why i'm a

  • 41:18

    hypocrite now they're whipping out

  • 41:19

    because i'm gonna come in here

  • 41:21

    oh my god everyone stopped the killing

  • 41:23

    but another and i could see how dudes

  • 41:25

    just wasn't in the mood to fight that

  • 41:26

    day

  • 41:27

    i'm just in the mood to shoot i'm not

  • 41:30

    fighting i'm not i'm not exerting energy

  • 41:32

    it's the fact that you know i'm going to

  • 41:34

    do this

  • 41:34

    i'm going to do this i got camera phones

  • 41:36

    now

  • 41:37

    everybody got camera phones i can't take

  • 41:38

    this l yo fan sometimes i go outside and

  • 41:40

    be like yo are you crazy this is a

  • 41:42

    really bad time for a fight to break out

  • 41:43

    for me like my morning was rough

  • 41:50

    i have to get to it then let's get to it

  • 41:52

    but i'm gonna feel it in the following

  • 41:54

    days i don't want to do any of that

  • 41:56

    yeah

  • 41:57

    yeah if i could see how a young dude

  • 41:59

    would feel like that

  • 42:02

    19 you can get to it

  • 42:05

    at the drop of a hat you don't got no

  • 42:06

    [ __ ] bad bones at 19. put your hands

  • 42:09

    up [ __ ] doing some [ __ ] looking for

  • 42:10

    it anybody looking yeah i'm popping off

  • 42:13

    yeah now that same [ __ ] is 19.

  • 42:17

    what a glock fam they different i rolled

  • 42:18

    in the middle of the pack let's see if

  • 42:20

    the leaders can negotiate us out of this

  • 42:23

    let's see let's see if the guys in the

  • 42:25

    back is really [ __ ] well that's the

  • 42:26

    other problem i think this is a good

  • 42:28

    spot to be mermaid squid games when dude

  • 42:30

    couldn't choose between number one and

  • 42:31

    the last number 19. it was like all that

  • 42:33

    it's like one of those

  • 42:34

    guys listen you got to pick your spot in

  • 42:36

    squad i didn't want to be in the front

  • 42:38

    in squid games i'm not taking number one

  • 42:40

    sometimes we was going to do's block

  • 42:42

    where i like a couple of those dudes

  • 42:43

    like

  • 42:45

    it's my man right there come on man we

  • 42:47

    gotta all right

  • 42:50

    i hope they piece it up in the front yo

  • 42:52

    you stupid get back here i don't want to

  • 42:54

    get into that oh my god

  • 42:56

    that's another issue there's no there's

  • 42:57

    no organization no more like like it

  • 42:59

    used to be which mob story would you

  • 43:01

    gentlemen like to begin with i don't

  • 43:03

    have very much to say about any of it

  • 43:04

    i'm on vacation already i keep telling

  • 43:06

    y'all

  • 43:07

    we're not here next week

  • 43:10

    you're the

  • 43:11

    leader of this

  • 43:13

    yeah you captain of the shipwreck

  • 43:16

    yeah we in the middle

  • 43:17

    i'm in the middle all right so i mean i

  • 43:19

    guess we will start with travis scott

  • 43:22

    okay travis scott

  • 43:25

    we've discussed this because we've

  • 43:26

    discussed it yeah um but travis scott in

  • 43:29

    the astroworld festival if you were

  • 43:30

    unaware took place

  • 43:32

    when was that over weekend friday night

  • 43:34

    over there last night it was friday

  • 43:37

    saturday was cancelled

  • 43:39

    uh

  • 43:40

    hysteria over there uh

  • 43:42

    horror

  • 43:43

    horror over there stampede

  • 43:46

    lives were lost uh eight lives so far

  • 43:48

    hundreds of people injured

  • 43:50

    uh over 300

  • 43:52

    over 300 what over 300 people injured

  • 43:56

    including a 10 year old countless

  • 43:57

    lawsuits a nine-year-old a 12 year old

  • 44:01

    children uh horror stories being written

  • 44:04

    videos resurfacing or surfacing

  • 44:07

    of allegations of people running around

  • 44:09

    and poking people with needles with

  • 44:11

    drugs in it against their will

  • 44:14

    they haven't been substantiated yet but

  • 44:16

    and a lot and a lot of different parties

  • 44:18

    at play i want to be very careful

  • 44:21

    handling this

  • 44:22

    because there's an ongoing investigation

  • 44:25

    one

  • 44:26

    uh

  • 44:26

    two because these are peers this is our

  • 44:29

    peer group three we work very closely

  • 44:32

    with live nation as does anyone that

  • 44:34

    tours the country that

  • 44:36

    works around the country at these venues

  • 44:38

    right

  • 44:39

    uh but this was a live nation event the

  • 44:41

    four of these are human beings andy's i

  • 44:43

    was about to say that too i was gonna

  • 44:45

    let you know

  • 44:46

    most importantly i started that's by

  • 44:47

    default

  • 44:49

    but lies were lost so you just want to

  • 44:50

    handle this in a real sensitive manner

  • 44:52

    and this was a horrific story to read

  • 44:55

    and continue to read because we had to

  • 44:57

    keep reading about it

  • 44:59

    um so where do we begin with this

  • 45:02

    for me it's

  • 45:06

    probably at the performer

  • 45:08

    center stage

  • 45:11

    okay the show's going on

  • 45:14

    i think you start with the the planning

  • 45:16

    i don't i don't start

  • 45:23

    theoretically part of the plan yeah if

  • 45:25

    you don't want to do it the other way

  • 45:27

    then let's do it the other way to my

  • 45:29

    understanding

  • 45:30

    this

  • 45:31

    capacity was 200 000

  • 45:35

    and when they were planning for the

  • 45:36

    tickets

  • 45:37

    the number was 50 000

  • 45:40

    as a performer

  • 45:42

    looking at the crowd

  • 45:43

    that was more than 50 000 people

  • 45:46

    and that was more than a hundred

  • 45:48

    thousand people

  • 45:50

    but you said the capacity capacity

  • 45:52

    was 200 000 gotcha tells me

  • 45:56

    we're safe yes

  • 45:58

    because initially we said it in the

  • 46:00

    reverse

  • 46:01

    that the capacity was fifty thousand two

  • 46:03

    hundred and two hundred thousand people

  • 46:04

    showed up so now we've cleared that up

  • 46:06

    feel free to fact check me

  • 46:08

    i'm off the dome because we got a lot to

  • 46:10

    get to in real time

  • 46:12

    but if it was 200 grand was the capacity

  • 46:14

    and they were at a buck a buck 50. we

  • 46:16

    can kind of take back the allegations

  • 46:18

    that they oversold tickets on purpose

  • 46:20

    right right we could take back the the

  • 46:22

    allegations that you you staffed

  • 46:25

    security wise slow down slow it down

  • 46:28

    cause i was getting we're gonna break it

  • 46:29

    all

  • 46:30

    down that's where i was going i was

  • 46:31

    waiting speeding right now i don't slow

  • 46:33

    down so we'll get there at venue size

  • 46:38

    we're safe

  • 46:40

    correct

  • 46:41

    don't mean you were staffed for now true

  • 46:43

    listen

  • 46:44

    don't speed okay let's not touch staff

  • 46:47

    yet let's break it all the way down

  • 46:50

    we're touring soon

  • 46:53

    and i've toured and you've toured

  • 46:56

    sometimes in your negotiations with

  • 46:58

    different venues in different states and

  • 47:00

    cities

  • 47:01

    depending on the event

  • 47:03

    the promoter or the planner or whoever

  • 47:06

    you're working with the venue

  • 47:08

    or live nation or somebody probably live

  • 47:10

    nation will say

  • 47:12

    this ain't for kids under 18.

  • 47:15

    you can't

  • 47:17

    well you can't

  • 47:18

    you can't have oh yeah yeah you can't

  • 47:21

    got yourself out you're going to be

  • 47:22

    under 18 years old at this event gotcha

  • 47:24

    that leaves a decision to be made on our

  • 47:27

    side right

  • 47:29

    because we were planning for tickets we

  • 47:31

    think that we got some cool 16 17 year

  • 47:35

    olds that should be able to attend this

  • 47:37

    is astroworld themed after a theme park

  • 47:40

    yeah i understand from six flags astral

  • 47:42

    world if i am the performer and i pose

  • 47:45

    this question to you you guys oh

  • 47:49

    and someone suggests to me

  • 47:52

    a dog 18 and up for this travis scott

  • 47:54

    show should probably not be all ages

  • 47:57

    i wouldn't think so i wouldn't think so

  • 47:59

    either

  • 48:00

    just based on but without without

  • 48:02

    knowing anything that happened

  • 48:04

    if you're in the mix here

  • 48:06

    and it's travis scott one of the biggest

  • 48:08

    stars in the world actually i should

  • 48:09

    have started with that because a lot of

  • 48:10

    the people out there don't know the type

  • 48:12

    of earner he is you all don't know what

  • 48:14

    it means to see a hundred thousand

  • 48:17

    people show up at an event like this

  • 48:19

    tickets probably sold out quickly asleep

  • 48:21

    oh yes

  • 48:22

    you all don't know what it means to see

  • 48:24

    that elaborate of a merchandise booth

  • 48:28

    it means something you gotta go through

  • 48:29

    that to know that but this is a high

  • 48:32

    high earning event which shows plant in

  • 48:35

    vegas and wherever they had a run plant

  • 48:38

    well no no they didn't have a run plant

  • 48:40

    astro world is its own festival like how

  • 48:42

    we said rolling loud or something like

  • 48:43

    that was

  • 48:44

    he was set to perform at another

  • 48:46

    festival in vegas called day in vegas

  • 48:48

    yeah i'm not talking about that well

  • 48:49

    you're saying i i said there was a they

  • 48:51

    canceled saturday astroworld astro world

  • 48:54

    day one houston day two houston it was

  • 48:58

    two days back-to-back yeah like how

  • 49:00

    rowland laughs

  • 49:06

    the second night correct

  • 49:08

    uh the domino effect was other festivals

  • 49:11

    that he was booked for begin to cancel

  • 49:13

    him he pulled out of the other festival

  • 49:17

    they didn't cancel him yeah i would have

  • 49:18

    doubted him he said yo i'm a little too

  • 49:20

    distraught right now over what happened

  • 49:22

    i can't perform right now and his pr

  • 49:24

    wouldn't let him perform anyway if

  • 49:25

    that's [ __ ]

  • 49:28

    that's [ __ ]

  • 49:29

    i disagree

  • 49:31

    i'm not arguing i'm gonna tell you i'm

  • 49:32

    gonna tell you because it's all open for

  • 49:33

    interpretation why i think it was not

  • 49:35

    [ __ ] i'm gonna tell you and what

  • 49:37

    pieces don't make me get in my phone

  • 49:38

    because there were some other festivals

  • 49:41

    that came out and said

  • 49:43

    safety of our crowd has always come

  • 49:45

    first as the result of the other day's

  • 49:48

    events

  • 49:49

    we go which festival did that

  • 49:53

    but

  • 49:54

    he's gonna find it in vegas is the one

  • 49:55

    that he which part did you think is

  • 49:57

    [ __ ]

  • 49:58

    i'm saying what are the other festivals

  • 49:59

    he'll pull it up

  • 50:01

    and if you can't i'll find it but

  • 50:03

    it's not it's important yeah yeah yeah

  • 50:04

    yeah it started

  • 50:06

    but i'm gonna tell you why i agree it

  • 50:07

    might have been

  • 50:09

    even this day and festival announcement

  • 50:11

    of him pulling out may have just been

  • 50:12

    saving face

  • 50:14

    because the back no i'm saying they

  • 50:16

    might the festival might have said your

  • 50:17

    dogs say something saying you can't be

  • 50:19

    here we'll let you save face but we

  • 50:21

    can't have you here that's impossible i

  • 50:23

    say that because

  • 50:25

    fortnite

  • 50:27

    everybody know what fortnite it means to

  • 50:29

    these little kids that big-ass video

  • 50:31

    game

  • 50:32

    culture

  • 50:34

    he did a concert in fortnite

  • 50:36

    he had skins which are like

  • 50:38

    uh allows your character to look like

  • 50:40

    him

  • 50:41

    they immediately pulled all travis scott

  • 50:44

    [ __ ] out of the game

  • 50:47

    so it's it could be some little you

  • 50:49

    think that was by his request and that's

  • 50:50

    what i'm saying that's why i'm inclined

  • 50:52

    i'm telling i'm giving my opinion

  • 50:54

    because i believe i can see through some

  • 50:57

    of this media fodder

  • 50:59

    travis scott yeah and that's what it is

  • 51:02

    travis scott has not spoken a word

  • 51:06

    in years

  • 51:08

    y'all fans ain't heard his voice

  • 51:11

    talking

  • 51:12

    in years this is not a joe observation

  • 51:15

    this is a fact

  • 51:17

    the last time he opened his mouth he put

  • 51:19

    his [ __ ] foot in it and i'm sure

  • 51:20

    somebody said yo shut the [ __ ] up don't

  • 51:22

    mention that type of [ __ ] again it was

  • 51:24

    some social justice [ __ ]

  • 51:25

    where he just came out sounding like oh

  • 51:28

    well i mean you deserve but i mean i

  • 51:30

    don't know and [ __ ] shut up

  • 51:32

    somebody went to him and said shut up

  • 51:35

    and we ain't heard from him

  • 51:38

    until the other day

  • 51:40

    because somebody said you gotta say

  • 51:42

    something you have to say something

  • 51:44

    that's how this game goes yeah

  • 51:46

    when i went to see what he said

  • 51:48

    it sounded like somebody said

  • 51:51

    you got to go say something

  • 51:53

    and that's where i was mad in our other

  • 51:55

    conversation that the patrons will get

  • 51:57

    if i lose my kid

  • 52:00

    and those are your words to the public

  • 52:02

    it don't make me feel so sincere at the

  • 52:05

    heart it made me feel like we're

  • 52:07

    covering up for business and we're

  • 52:08

    trying to protect some things and when

  • 52:10

    there's this amount of millions at stake

  • 52:13

    yeah that's not out of bounds for me you

  • 52:15

    know that's not far fetched know my

  • 52:17

    problem with this my problem with this

  • 52:19

    is

  • 52:20

    you all know what travis scott brings to

  • 52:23

    what the travis shots travis scott show

  • 52:25

    brings who's y'all the the festival

  • 52:27

    organizers okay that's why the community

  • 52:29

    the community the culture period yeah

  • 52:31

    you know what he what he brings this is

  • 52:33

    why you book him this is why he get that

  • 52:35

    top slot

  • 52:36

    he just is the money maker

  • 52:39

    you know it's pandemonium he encourages

  • 52:42

    pandemonium at his shows granite has

  • 52:43

    never been to this extent before but

  • 52:46

    y'all was cool with it

  • 52:48

    with

  • 52:49

    encouraging the [ __ ] to happen you

  • 52:50

    knew this is what he gets on stage and

  • 52:52

    do now it's oh we got a distance yeah

  • 52:54

    what's the ticket prices like that's

  • 52:55

    your world

  • 52:57

    i don't imagine a couple hundred today

  • 52:59

    at least easily yeah and that's why

  • 53:02

    as hard as it is i try i'm ignoring i my

  • 53:05

    ear tunes out what isis saying

  • 53:07

    because just when you think about humans

  • 53:09

    right if 20 million is at play in the

  • 53:12

    next eight hours

  • 53:14

    we're gonna do some things

  • 53:17

    yeah that's humans

  • 53:19

    so

  • 53:20

    yeah what you're saying is right ice but

  • 53:22

    this look at this [ __ ] this bit it's

  • 53:23

    eight figures that in 2019 it was 179

  • 53:27

    for a two-day plan

  • 53:29

    300.

  • 53:30

    300 plus i'm not gonna pull my

  • 53:32

    calculator out it's just good it's got

  • 53:35

    it and i'm not asking him because i know

  • 53:36

    he's good at math i don't want to know

  • 53:38

    because i know

  • 53:39

    i ain't carry the one

  • 53:41

    and then they announce he's giving full

  • 53:43

    refunds back

  • 53:44

    i'm not counting the merch see this is

  • 53:47

    where i stand

  • 53:50

    i don't blame him

  • 53:53

    because from what i've read a shitload

  • 53:56

    of people snuck in

  • 53:58

    right they bum rushed they said a

  • 54:00

    shitload of people snuck in right that

  • 54:01

    [ __ ] like jokers was do you know doing

  • 54:03

    [ __ ] [ __ ]

  • 54:05

    and um

  • 54:09

    i let me take that back i don't know how

  • 54:11

    this goes and i don't know how they set

  • 54:12

    it up right i don't know who's

  • 54:14

    responsible for what but when you see

  • 54:16

    the patrons knocking down the gates and

  • 54:18

    rushing in

  • 54:20

    it's like yo we could have potentially

  • 54:23

    they got gates up this gets to my next

  • 54:25

    point you know my problem hold on hold

  • 54:26

    on joe what's going on what's up what's

  • 54:27

    up coco ish this is my problem with

  • 54:31

    if you look at any of the promo videos

  • 54:33

    for astro world before this like what

  • 54:35

    they put out

  • 54:37

    guess what they show

  • 54:38

    [ __ ] like that

  • 54:39

    it's almost like they're they know the

  • 54:41

    [ __ ] comes they encounter they've

  • 54:43

    done this before they highlight it

  • 54:45

    that's what i've been trying to tell

  • 54:46

    y'all like what travis brings is a

  • 54:48

    little different

  • 54:50

    it's like look

  • 54:51

    when you're getting a point you know

  • 54:52

    they're going to do this wild [ __ ] but

  • 54:54

    you don't have to you you i think

  • 54:55

    there's a lot of people

  • 54:57

    and travis is probably one of them i

  • 54:58

    wouldn't exonerate him but i'll say he's

  • 55:01

    innocent either

  • 55:02

    before i get to travis i'm gonna try my

  • 55:05

    best to break down some important

  • 55:06

    elements here

  • 55:08

    staffing is my next one

  • 55:10

    apparently there were 750 officers

  • 55:14

    there

  • 55:18

    i've spoken to some people it seems like

  • 55:20

    it seems like i'd say that's a lot

  • 55:22

    that's a lot seems like a lot sound like

  • 55:24

    a lot yeah sounds like a lot to me

  • 55:26

    because that's just officers

  • 55:28

    there's probably also security and you

  • 55:30

    know

  • 55:31

    750 officers

  • 55:34

    sounds like a line it does right if it's

  • 55:38

    like organized correctly and because

  • 55:40

    again that's just obviously because you

  • 55:41

    figured including you just stopped you

  • 55:42

    think of the cities other people are

  • 55:43

    going to help maintain this is what ian

  • 55:45

    was saying and me and him thought about

  • 55:47

    it

  • 55:48

    he said well you think of the cities and

  • 55:50

    sounds about right you got one cop for

  • 55:52

    every 10 000 people in the city

  • 55:55

    well this ain't the city

  • 55:57

    it ain't spread out

  • 55:59

    this is 120 000 people come in one split

  • 56:06

    750 in a worst case scenario

  • 56:09

    if all of these people begin to

  • 56:12

    push

  • 56:14

    that's just on the slightest if they

  • 56:16

    begin to push now they begin to jump up

  • 56:18

    and down and make a circle and push

  • 56:19

    people out the way and now there's force

  • 56:22

    of people the wave

  • 56:24

    a wave if you watch a hundred foot wave

  • 56:26

    they'll tell you about how a wave is

  • 56:28

    formed and how tough it is to get over a

  • 56:30

    wave because of how it's formed with the

  • 56:32

    force of the whole [ __ ] ocean doing

  • 56:34

    it it's deep

  • 56:36

    750 people don't sound like enough to

  • 56:38

    control a worst case scenario

  • 56:41

    for every for almost every 270 people

  • 56:44

    it's one cop

  • 56:46

    for almost every two rushing the

  • 56:47

    barricade i'm jumping over if i don't

  • 56:49

    have a ticket i'm hopping that one so

  • 56:51

    but again

  • 56:52

    we don't know if that includes

  • 56:53

    that we don't know if that includes like

  • 56:54

    private security unless they don't let's

  • 56:56

    say it don't right okay you could double

  • 56:58

    it was a thousand no

  • 56:59

    it says there was 505 event security

  • 57:02

    staff 91 armed private security officers

  • 57:06

    and 76

  • 57:07

    officers from the houston police

  • 57:09

    department at the event okay so the 750

  • 57:11

    is total total support that's not enough

  • 57:13

    that's probably not no no listen

  • 57:15

    let's double but i guess i can see how

  • 57:16

    they would think of something yeah but

  • 57:18

    again you going off of whatever matrix

  • 57:20

    yeah you're going off for whatever

  • 57:22

    standard and metric that you have and

  • 57:23

    even if you're true and even if

  • 57:33

    bro you do south by southwest you do

  • 57:35

    rolling loud you looking at these people

  • 57:37

    this is what they do exactly these

  • 57:38

    festival [ __ ] they're not new

  • 57:40

    to the rodeo this is what they do but so

  • 57:42

    you saying for rolling loud we had

  • 57:44

    500. travis scott brings a different

  • 57:47

    level of pandemonium let's do 750. right

  • 57:49

    even if they had 1500 [ __ ] when

  • 57:52

    you talking about 200 000 people now you

  • 57:55

    talking about one cop for every 130

  • 57:57

    people if the people still want to be

  • 57:59

    unruly they can and there's nothing you

  • 58:01

    could do

  • 58:02

    they can

  • 58:03

    one cop for every 130 people 100 140

  • 58:07

    people this is where it gets freaky now

  • 58:09

    right

  • 58:10

    and you got to use your own brain for

  • 58:11

    this type of stuff

  • 58:13

    now the police

  • 58:14

    sheriff the head

  • 58:16

    comes out and says

  • 58:18

    yo prior to the event a week before we

  • 58:21

    met with travis and his people we said

  • 58:23

    we didn't think that this was staffed

  • 58:25

    correctly

  • 58:27

    and you might need a little more and

  • 58:28

    we're aware of your history so please be

  • 58:31

    careful in how you behave i have a

  • 58:33

    problem with that

  • 58:35

    well first of all do we believe this

  • 58:37

    i don't believe it i don't believe that

  • 58:39

    no okay i don't believe that because

  • 58:40

    everybody's trying to cover their

  • 58:42

    [ __ ] of course

  • 58:44

    absolutely right

  • 58:46

    but maybe you could see it happening

  • 58:48

    honestly i mean you trying to get your

  • 58:50

    guys some ot if you the police sheriff

  • 58:52

    yeah yeah i want a couple more of my

  • 58:54

    guys being on the assignment i want

  • 58:55

    another 100 guys on that assignment well

  • 58:57

    i mean

  • 58:58

    the worst case and if i'm being positive

  • 59:00

    y'all know my city

  • 59:02

    true i know my city and i know you i

  • 59:03

    know how we get i think we need more

  • 59:06

    yeah yo when i you let it go down if

  • 59:08

    they say no

  • 59:09

    when i when i hired the cops for the

  • 59:10

    pool party very low scale here but when

  • 59:12

    i had the cops for the pool party like

  • 59:14

    yo let me get two cops out there and

  • 59:15

    they was like how many people you

  • 59:16

    expecting and i told them they was like

  • 59:18

    sure you don't want another car why you

  • 59:20

    say that

  • 59:21

    just i just know my city

  • 59:24

    nighttime

  • 59:25

    a lot of cars park neighbors it could

  • 59:27

    get

  • 59:28

    you might want more than one just so the

  • 59:30

    neighbors could feel cool like we'll

  • 59:32

    handle it hey you're right hey book it

  • 59:34

    book it so it's one of those

  • 59:38

    i believe it

  • 59:40

    maybe it didn't go like that

  • 59:41

    but i believe that concern was expressed

  • 59:44

    i'm sure

  • 59:46

    and i believe [ __ ] might have said get

  • 59:48

    the [ __ ] out of here y'all cops we do

  • 59:50

    this we do this for a living

  • 59:53

    yeah it's true too egos come into play

  • 59:55

    well no back to the the companies that

  • 59:58

    do this they got the metrics we do 100

  • 1:00:00

    police officers we throw 500 events a

  • 1:00:03

    year of houston deputy man right thank

  • 1:00:06

    you

  • 1:00:07

    we got it though yeah hey this is 20 30

  • 1:00:09

    40 50 million dollar business in nine

  • 1:00:11

    hours hey yo dawg appreciate you

  • 1:00:15

    but it's above you i'm serious not a

  • 1:00:17

    stranger [ __ ] i agree how do you leave

  • 1:00:20

    we do this this is what we do you're out

  • 1:00:21

    of your league

  • 1:00:23

    we got it thanks for the suggestion

  • 1:00:26

    152 total

  • 1:00:30

    sounds like someone could interpret it

  • 1:00:32

    as negligence that's what i'll say

  • 1:00:34

    sounds like you might have been prepared

  • 1:00:36

    if things are going normally but at this

  • 1:00:38

    event you have to plan for a worst case

  • 1:00:40

    scenario lawyers are telling you all the

  • 1:00:42

    time playing for the worst case scenario

  • 1:00:43

    it's my job i know you don't think it'll

  • 1:00:44

    go like that

  • 1:00:46

    i'm telling you it might happen like

  • 1:00:48

    this we need to be protected but again

  • 1:00:50

    that's all relative to what the norms

  • 1:00:52

    are

  • 1:00:53

    we don't know

  • 1:00:54

    what the norms are

  • 1:00:56

    but you get what i'm saying it's

  • 1:00:58

    reasonable to assume that they probably

  • 1:01:00

    handled it the way they're used to

  • 1:01:01

    handling yeah yeah or

  • 1:01:04

    a little bit above and beyond what the

  • 1:01:06

    norms are

  • 1:01:08

    because it is him well that's back to my

  • 1:01:11

    other patreon point

  • 1:01:13

    hip-hop don't know how to [ __ ] my

  • 1:01:15

    spit

  • 1:01:16

    well yeah

  • 1:01:18

    stop [ __ ] stealing everything

  • 1:01:21

    thieves no cause i don't think it's a

  • 1:01:23

    money thing i just don't you don't know

  • 1:01:24

    how to mosh pit dogs there is a culture

  • 1:01:26

    to mosh yes it is 250 there's a way to

  • 1:01:30

    do it and you think i think all of the

  • 1:01:32

    rock and roll venues are staffed over

  • 1:01:34

    the top to prevent this type of thing no

  • 1:01:37

    i don't i just think we doing something

  • 1:01:40

    because it's making this type of money

  • 1:01:42

    and it's garnering us this attention at

  • 1:01:43

    these festivals and these bookings and

  • 1:01:45

    these rates

  • 1:01:46

    but we ain't really thinking about like

  • 1:01:48

    the safety of [ __ ] again this is the

  • 1:01:50

    same artist who has the lyrics saying if

  • 1:01:53

    it ain't it ain't a mosh pit if it ain't

  • 1:01:55

    no injuries

  • 1:01:56

    like he need to delete that picture that

  • 1:01:58

    academics said it's still on his

  • 1:01:59

    instagram or the white kid laid out

  • 1:02:01

    thank the lord

  • 1:02:03

    see because we in lawsuit land now there

  • 1:02:05

    we go and if you didn't know that

  • 1:02:09

    well [ __ ] why did you think kylie

  • 1:02:10

    jenner keeps posting about whatever the

  • 1:02:12

    [ __ ] she's posting about

  • 1:02:16

    that's another billion dollar family

  • 1:02:19

    they don't just talk they don't waste

  • 1:02:21

    words for free

  • 1:02:23

    there's a reason that you move every

  • 1:02:24

    piece on the board the reason you play

  • 1:02:26

    every card these [ __ ] ain't just

  • 1:02:28

    grabbing their phones to tell you all

  • 1:02:30

    their deepest concerns i saw a drake uh

  • 1:02:33

    post

  • 1:02:36

    i'm sure he went and got with his

  • 1:02:37

    [ __ ] team how do we handle this this

  • 1:02:39

    this is horrible

  • 1:02:41

    we gotta jump out a meeting was

  • 1:02:44

    immediately seven o'clock in the morning

  • 1:02:46

    maybe one o'clock in the morning they

  • 1:02:47

    had how do i address this

  • 1:02:50

    billion dollar business yeah billion

  • 1:02:52

    dollars and the consumer don't never

  • 1:02:54

    look at it that way because we're on the

  • 1:02:56

    other side of the fence

  • 1:02:57

    but when it's that type of money yo any

  • 1:03:00

    show in the world where that type of

  • 1:03:01

    money is at stake hey the next scene

  • 1:03:03

    could get tense

  • 1:03:05

    we might concede backstabbing

  • 1:03:08

    we might concede murder we might

  • 1:03:10

    conceive who knows we might could see

  • 1:03:11

    the couple the wife run off you don't

  • 1:03:14

    know what you could see when that type

  • 1:03:16

    of money is at stake i don't know why

  • 1:03:17

    because this is thinly veiled under the

  • 1:03:19

    guise of hip-hop that we don't apply

  • 1:03:21

    that same thinking you're right true

  • 1:03:24

    because again at two posturing 200 000

  • 1:03:27

    people at 365 a ticket dogs

  • 1:03:31

    no you're talking seven million seventy

  • 1:03:33

    million dollars in one day and that

  • 1:03:35

    don't count the merch we're not even

  • 1:03:37

    counting the merch and beverages and

  • 1:03:38

    food damn it's a bigger take than money

  • 1:03:40

    heist yeah for families go watch money

  • 1:03:43

    hype you're talking about two days my

  • 1:03:45

    [ __ ]

  • 1:03:46

    yeah i don't think i don't even think

  • 1:03:47

    about parking oh my god

  • 1:03:49

    everything's consistent

  • 1:03:52

    all that [ __ ] sanitizer i let the [ __ ]

  • 1:03:54

    set up the fruit the fruit stand at the

  • 1:03:56

    pool party thank me for the next six

  • 1:03:58

    months

  • 1:03:58

    [Laughter]

  • 1:03:59

    the taco truck last year thanked me for

  • 1:04:02

    the next three months uh-huh hey the

  • 1:04:03

    pineapples was on business that you just

  • 1:04:05

    responsible for

  • 1:04:07

    no it was great until i had to carry out

  • 1:04:09

    bags of empty [ __ ] fruit he didn't

  • 1:04:11

    help me with no dog you talking about

  • 1:04:13

    again just from the gate money

  • 1:04:15

    yeah it's 150

  • 1:04:18

    million dollars in two i see what some

  • 1:04:20

    of you [ __ ] do for a thousand dollars

  • 1:04:23

    a half a billion dollar take yeah

  • 1:04:27

    he's one of them yeah he's one of them

  • 1:04:29

    you know the festival i'm talking about

  • 1:04:31

    that announced they were uh

  • 1:04:33

    uh removing him they also announced that

  • 1:04:35

    they were replacing him

  • 1:04:37

    you gotta bring in another heavy hitter

  • 1:04:39

    to get that back don't know how i feel

  • 1:04:40

    about this post malone that's the

  • 1:04:41

    invention do you know the headache

  • 1:04:44

    that that company had to deal with just

  • 1:04:46

    to think about replacing the likes of a

  • 1:04:48

    trainer in a week the list was short

  • 1:04:51

    that list was short in a week we got to

  • 1:04:52

    see if they even available it's festival

  • 1:04:54

    season [ __ ] is out [ __ ] running

  • 1:04:56

    around yeah so they had to make it a lot

  • 1:04:59

    of people had a headache and a migraine

  • 1:05:02

    when this occurred

  • 1:05:04

    aside from us reading it as humans with

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    human hearts filled with love

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    this is a catastrophe on all

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    all

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    levels which brings me to my final point

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    that i sat with for a little bit

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    looking at this through the eyes of the

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    entertainer

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    it's tough i don't expect everybody to

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    be able to get it

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    that's why i can't listen to everybody

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    we are trained

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    from yay high

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    to keep the show going the show must go

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    on we are yo i believe that

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    it's it's drilled in your head i don't

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    think but in the same in the same token

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    though you're also drilled at crowd

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    control

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    crowd control

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    wait wait hold on

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    crowd control

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    is one thing

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    at sobs

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    i get it and again plaza and again and

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    again we now out he's the opposite of

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    that with over 100 000 people i've

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    missed things in a room of 10. and he

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    high up it's dark outside you he [ __ ]

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    around i don't know if he smokes or

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    drinks he might be high or drunk or

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    whatever the [ __ ] case

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    and the party and he encouraged like you

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    don't you see the wild [ __ ] happening

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    and that's that's what i was going to

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    get to yeah like because yes there is

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    two hundred thousand hundred thousand

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    people out there

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    i want your agent that

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    adore you yes

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    you can have you can you can

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    contr and your control your crowd

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    control is part of what made you how old

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    how old is travis scott screaming he's

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    young

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    pull it up

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    let's keep this in its proper

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    perspective i don't know how old is i

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    ain't the biggest fan i like tekko mo

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    you could tell what his fan base is his

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    fan base i like that early 20s mid 20s i

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    like all his music late teens to but

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    he's one i like his music i don't know

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    him right that's what i mean like 30

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    years old blurred today amongst these

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    fans i love travis scott music i don't

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    know this [ __ ] i can't tell you what he

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    would and wouldn't do in a situation

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    well i tell you you seen on stage

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    like again a lot of people i saw saying

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    yo he could have stopped and said

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    something they didn't watch the entire

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    stream or they didn't watch it they saw

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    clips and videos that went around as

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    someone who watched the entire

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    performance because it was streaming

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    from what he saw when he saw somebody in

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    the crowd [ __ ] up he stopped the show

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    he's like yo oh oh somebody's down right

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    here no everybody back back don't touch

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    them don't touch them security get over

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    there security was taking too long yo

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    jump the barricade get over there

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    if you were looking at 100 thousand

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    people you might not be able to tell

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    what's going on of course in his defense

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    what the one he did see seven

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    50 people's staff total is not enough to

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    handle when the performer stops the show

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    abruptly to say yo handle that over

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    there right yo so i've been on a stage

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    where the fight broke out and i've

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    stopped

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    you wanna if you didn't care about the

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    fight you care about the people missing

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    the show because it's a fight yeah so

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    you say

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    hey and that over there as soon as they

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    get to that we gonna get right back to

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    it hold up

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    sometimes

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    they take long they take a minute

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    i'll be in little tiny clubs not only

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    that i've been on stage with some

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    rappers when the fight breakout

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    keep the crowd distracted

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    don't i don't want everybody focusing on

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    that so i got i gotta turn up a little

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    bit to keep it going so that security

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    can handle that without everybody else

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    getting involved it's true right so now

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    we're gonna take it to this you can be

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    in a club dog with a thousand people

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    and they might have 20 security guards

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    cop slash whatever maybe

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    right that's one for every 50.

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    we talking about a a scenario for one

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    every 200 and change and it's a big ass

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    venue so the [ __ ] can start

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    some [ __ ] in the mosh pit but it's still

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    people guarding the door there's still

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    people at the gate it's still people by

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    the concession stands there's still

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    people by the register

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    i mean it's all spread around right

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    throughout the the big guy's venue

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    correct so when some [ __ ] happens dog

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    you know how hard it is to walk through

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    200 000 people to get to the front and

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    pick a body up

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    making it seem like it's just like they

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    dropped the ball which they might have

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    in in certain areas we still don't know

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    who to like be clear we don't know who

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    to put let's tell you something uh

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    on top of the little baby ambulance

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    right i'm not blaming look at my ears

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    apart from my earlier jobs right when i

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    was like 17 18 years old

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    i worked at the meadowlands as security

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    oh go you yeah yeah you know [ __ ] had

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    to get

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    jobs working at giants and raiders gay

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    giants was getting their ass what

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    you buy [ __ ] no no this matters

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    anytime everybody know raiders fans they

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    have a reputation with them same as

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    eagles fans

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    giants getting their ass with raiders

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    fans talking [ __ ] there was fights

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    breaking out in the crowd everywhere we

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    have walkie-talkies they like security

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    get to section 132 everybody starts

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    running security no no get to section

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    208 like you can't be everywhere at once

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    when the [ __ ] starts popping off like

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    that it's only a handful of y'all but

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    y'all are not prepared for the entire

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    crowd to be a situation

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    you'll be prepared for a uh you know

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    individual situations here right there

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    but when it gets to be the entire crowd

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    we was like oh [ __ ] what the [ __ ] do you

  • 1:10:28

    do now and again we just did the number

  • 1:10:30

    so it's one particu officer for every

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    240 [ __ ] mm-hmm

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    you you you kind of just like joker's

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    over here selling merch you got to have

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    cops over there by the emergency

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    i haven't left the 70 million number

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    i don't need no other number

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    yeah

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    well the number we need it's a hundred

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    million dollar a day yo the next eight

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    hours hundred and something million

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    dollars one day went down over a hundred

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    million over a hundred over 100 people

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    is what you're saying

  • 1:11:05

    but they might have been i'm saying i

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    know what humans do

  • 1:11:09

    when that money is at stake

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    i know what you might overlook mm-hmm i

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    know what some of you broke [ __ ]

  • 1:11:15

    overlooking we know what you might look

  • 1:11:16

    at the corner right here we're gonna cut

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    a corner right there when you start

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    talking about 150 million dollar day 120

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