Mob Ties
Joe Budden Podcast Episode 487, “Mob Ties,” released November 11, 2021. There's a ton to cover this episode due to the massive amount of newsworthy headlines this weekend, and Joe gets to it all! They begin with understanding the difference between a "toxic" partner and someone who's labelled "crazy" (24:21). Next, Joe and the crew discuss the tragedy at Travis Scott's Astroworld festival (43:20). Also, Ye (formerly known as Kanye West) attempts to mend issues with Drake in an awkwardly recorded video (1:19:05), and Leonardo DiCaprio continues to show why he's in a class of his own beyond his acting talent (1:42:52). The guys also recap Starz hit-series, "BMF", Steph Curry sends a message to Trae Young (2:13:53) and MORE! Full transcript and searchable timestamps below.

In this episode
- 24:21They begin with understanding the difference between a "toxic" partner and someone who's labelled "crazy"
- 43:20Next, Joe and the crew discuss the tragedy at Travis Scott's Astroworld festival
- 1:19:05Ye (formerly known as Kanye West) attempts to mend issues with Drake in an awkwardly recorded video
- 1:42:52Leonardo DiCaprio continues to show why he's in a class of his own beyond his acting talent
- 2:13:53The guys also recap Starz hit-series, "BMF", Steph Curry sends a message to Trae Young
Joe Budden Podcast Ep. 487 Transcript
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breaking the screen of your iphone is
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where we were off microphone right now i
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know that sounds like nothing
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but i'll admit
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i'm having some issues too it's been a
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while since i cracked it i've never
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cracked the iphone screen the cutesy
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little case i have the max the big one
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so the cutesy little magnetic case you
- 0:20
got me i've dropped it enough to where
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the right bottom corner
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is now chipped uh a lot right you feel a
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weakness coming of the on the screen you
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say on the iphone look
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yeah look look at the back of the case
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when i hold the phone you hold it and
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you lean it on your pinky right i gotta
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[ __ ] that little sharp
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uh whatever that is
- 0:43
has [ __ ] my pinky up so you know these
- 0:45
are 40 year old problems that i don't
- 0:48
normally share with people because who
- 0:49
cares
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who cares about that i'm trying to not
- 0:52
curse the first 20 minutes watch this
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because y'all fans pissing me off you
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know what you do
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you buy a new case
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i guess that's a reasonable uh
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or or or you cut your pinky off man just
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depends on how you built i bought a
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brand new kitchen
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i mean when i seen the movie saw for the
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first time and he was in that situation
- 1:12
where you cut your ankle off or you just
- 1:14
die
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i mean what you're gonna do it's a
- 1:17
little different but okay slightly
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different yeah just a little bit so
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y'all never thought about having to cut
- 1:22
off on your own limbs no why why
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not haven't been putting my position
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into where i had to cut off any of my
- 1:27
limbs not my brains normally how much of
- 1:29
your brain y'all think y'all use that
- 1:30
y'all never thought about that well what
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are you talking about what are you
- 1:33
talking about what's the normal stuff
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that sounds crazy to me that you never
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thought about having to cut off one of
- 1:37
your own limbs that's crazy that we have
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it
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that's the crazy part right
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i mean i guess you think when you watch
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saul or when you hear rizza say you
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gotta chew his [ __ ] arm off to make
- 1:49
an escape but you don't really think
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about it like in a regular day-to-day
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days i see why women think men are so
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stupid well we are
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well we are
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but every time we talk it just comes out
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more and more so with that belief what
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do you think about women that uh prefer
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to see a uh what do you call it a bulla
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a moola
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a doula doula a doula
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what do you think about the women that
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prefer to see a doula versus going to a
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hospital to have what's a doula the
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person that helps you
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home birth what am
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no i'm with it but i'm saying under that
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thinking
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like that y'all look at that face y'all
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are looking at me uh about saying that
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y'all never thought about that like what
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do y'all think of them no i think
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because
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i've thought about this you've seen
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hello we know what parallel mean
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profound
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[Laughter]
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what if i didn't like being teased
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don't see all people
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uh
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that works
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ding ding ding yo i'm never subscribing
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today we know never we know we know
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y'all know i'm never subscribing to not
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teasing people
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i can deal with being teased better than
- 3:12
people can deal with being teased so i
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take it
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could you one thousand would have been
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teased my whole life
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the one day i got love is when i came
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out
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other than that i've been teased
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i'll take it back too
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but go ahead come on
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cause i'm doing cutting your penis
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because i'm appealing to a brother good
- 3:30
dog i know
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when you watch these movies right or
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when you think about
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uh
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[ __ ] people having uh certain health
- 3:43
conditions on the plane and then they
- 3:44
scream out yo is there a doctor or a
- 3:46
nurse on board or some [ __ ] like that
- 3:47
what if there's not right
- 3:49
what if there's something that's
- 3:51
cancerous or corroded in one of your
- 3:53
limbs where it might spread
- 3:55
i mean as you age people have health
- 3:58
issues you think of this you think of
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this [ __ ] i don't know how y'all don't
- 4:00
think of it but cool so i think if
- 4:02
there's no hospital and there's no
- 4:04
doctor and there's no nothing and that
- 4:05
situation would have happened
- 4:07
yeah i'm grabbing the biggest knife or
- 4:09
machete i could find and i'm cutting the
- 4:11
limb off i'm cutting it off myself i'll
- 4:13
deal with the pain know what happens we
- 4:15
watch the drug dealer movies and and
- 4:16
when they're trying to stage the crime
- 4:18
sometimes you see them shoot themselves
- 4:19
right right we'd be like
- 4:21
but i understand so that's where i think
- 4:24
of that i'm shocked that y'all have
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never thought of that no you know what i
- 4:26
want to know how to do let's hear it
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all right i'm getting it no for real i
- 4:30
really don't let a little no no no no
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you watch the movies
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you seen this [ __ ] with jennifer lopez
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when the snake was chasing him
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yeah
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right
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i love
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i thought he meant when ben affleck kept
- 4:45
running all around town oh no that was
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that no that was uh a-rod
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yo leaving a-rod for ben affleck is nuts
- 4:52
but i was leaving that alone why tell me
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why that is nuts that's mine and women's
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business
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wise nuts dog i'm listening
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for you for real i'm dead ass all right
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we're taking away the fact that he was
- 5:04
her ex right mm-hmm
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now we even in playing field
- 5:09
ben affleck while she was with him yo
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i'm aware how this sounds
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this sounds like hey
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it's different
- 5:17
it sounds like stuff that i shouldn't
- 5:18
even be discussing or thinking but i'm
- 5:20
cool important thank you for the comfort
- 5:22
of your home i'm
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let me announce we are on vacation
- 5:26
friday the 12th
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and that next no saturday the 13th and
- 5:32
that wednesday whatever that date is and
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we're back saturday the 20th now that
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that's out the way when she was with him
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right you were sizing up a rock no i
- 5:42
wasn't siding up anybody oh but when she
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was with him
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her acting career took a hit right yes
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when she was with ben
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it did no that's giggly no no no that's
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giggly you're not gonna talk no no no no
- 5:56
no no no that's not true that's giggly
- 5:58
that's giggly that's made in manhattan
- 6:00
you remember all of that slander you
- 6:02
were no no no made manhattan and [ __ ]
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what's the [ __ ] um yo they both couldn't
- 6:06
get a job while they were together
- 6:09
ben had to get batman to get back in the
- 6:11
scene you know the run ben had to go on
- 6:13
batman the town he had to go crazy after
- 6:16
that
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y'all know what they were saying man
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come on ish if you didn't hear it then
- 6:20
what i'm saying i don't so count that
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there
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dealing with you i have to deal with
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career
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slander right
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you also broke my heart
- 6:30
it's been some pain there
- 6:32
cool she broke his heart
- 6:34
yeah yeah he left me for the rapid boy
- 6:36
he was running ratchet caught a charge
- 6:39
he was bugging out nah she [ __ ] with ben
- 6:41
after puff
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she [ __ ] with ben after her after i got
- 6:45
my time wrong yeah
- 6:50
major league baseball took steroids had
- 6:53
a [ __ ] whole
- 6:54
ring going for years okay came back as a
- 6:57
commentator got forgiveness
- 7:00
got the little spray tan
- 7:03
we got a little come on man got the
- 7:05
spray tan what you got
- 7:07
we got like three max contracts
- 7:11
he was the first like 800 million up
- 7:14
something
- 7:15
from the range all i'm saying is when
- 7:17
you put it on paper and take emotion out
- 7:20
in history and i think ben got a couple
- 7:22
bucks too though no i'm about to crack
- 7:23
them go ahead tell me i think that when
- 7:26
you put it on paper you sound like a bad
- 7:28
[ __ ] out here you know fam
- 7:31
jennifer lopez no no no no jennifer
- 7:34
lopez in her own right is a a couple
- 7:36
hundred million up
- 7:38
yes she don't care about the paper yeah
- 7:42
no now
- 7:56
but no she don't care about how to do
- 7:58
looks on paper because she's in a
- 8:00
financial position but that don't matter
- 8:02
normally
- 8:03
she don't need your spanky so again how
- 8:05
this [ __ ] makes me feel and all that
- 8:07
other [ __ ] is more important why we
- 8:08
don't date more them
- 8:10
let's let's get into like
- 8:13
male bull bulls so you wanna know the
- 8:15
truth we are why don't we date more them
- 8:17
you know like the girls just running
- 8:18
around saying like fds broke dudes yeah
- 8:21
like why we don't love ourselves more
- 8:23
and say you know what
- 8:24
it's up for y'all until i find
- 8:27
her
- 8:28
that person no that's that's
- 8:31
why we don't need it in your 40s i can
- 8:32
tell you why no that's not true
- 8:35
because we don't know where to find them
- 8:36
no it's not that it's because
- 8:38
a lot of
- 8:53
it no more and you're wanted it's a
- 8:55
different totally different your dick
- 8:57
game coming to play everything coming to
- 8:59
play the sense of humor coming to play
- 9:00
yeah intelligence come into play all of
- 9:02
the [ __ ] don't have none of that the
- 9:04
intangible [ __ ] comes into play
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i got this bag right here i'm gonna use
- 9:09
this to control her and get whatever i
- 9:10
want and have her do what i want you
- 9:12
want me to take that cla back you better
- 9:14
shut your [ __ ] mouth you'll be right
- 9:15
back in norco dyke
- 9:17
you better shut up
- 9:18
i'm sorry
- 9:20
you want that little three series you
- 9:22
better shut your [ __ ] mouth and you
- 9:24
know what they want it so what they did
- 9:26
they [ __ ] mouth now what happened if
- 9:27
she don't need your little three series
- 9:29
money now you gotta bring other
- 9:30
qualities to the table that's something
- 9:32
now you can't now you can't even hold
- 9:33
her attention
- 9:34
oh deuces when you ladies got your hands
- 9:36
on that little cls boy with hot stuff
- 9:40
there was hot stuff with their cls
- 9:42
wasn't they
- 9:43
i was outside i remember it i remember
- 9:45
too and the x3 don't forget when the x3
- 9:48
i see a
- 9:49
cls was a different vibe though the
- 9:51
shorty had one
- 9:52
little blue chumpy i know that [ __ ] was
- 9:54
all right they was outside why they
- 9:55
stopped making their car well they can't
- 9:57
even make cars no more let me shut up
- 10:01
mic check one two one two man i ain't
- 10:04
even here to part i'm on vacation but i
- 10:06
am caught up on bmf not really yo even i
- 10:09
said i'm caught on bmf how bmf comes on
- 10:12
is dope huh you ain't watch seven
- 10:15
seven isn't officially out ice
- 10:18
only you yo only you got it i know i'm
- 10:21
just saying only you know i just want to
- 10:23
brag about his little boy
- 10:28
i definitely have it in my phone
- 10:31
how to get that i didn't know it was
- 10:33
available i don't know that that is a
- 10:35
possibility ice is the oh actually old
- 10:38
yeah last week that they were like yo
- 10:40
what you ain't seeing the girl plex i'm
- 10:42
like what the [ __ ] is that
- 10:45
bougie ass tech [ __ ]
- 10:47
i have it in my phone episode 7 but i
- 10:49
don't want to betray 50 cent meech
- 10:52
t
- 10:53
little meat stars little meach i don't
- 10:56
want to betray anyone and watch it they
- 10:58
were talking really spicy the stars
- 11:01
but at the end of six i do want to watch
- 11:03
it boy
- 11:05
no but then you it's the same [ __ ] cause
- 11:07
now you still gotta wait another
- 11:08
cliffhanging every episode yeah yeah you
- 11:10
gotta say well i'm mad that i started
- 11:12
watching it when i did i wish i had
- 11:13
waited three weeks because now i'm gonna
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put up and it's just yeah just right
- 11:16
through the [ __ ] you got two left it's
- 11:18
good though right
- 11:20
i really like it nah [ __ ] is good i
- 11:22
really like it this is not an ad stars
- 11:24
pay but pay 50 first
- 11:26
not dawg
- 11:28
yo so this little scene spoiler alert
- 11:30
this little scene that very reminiscent
- 11:32
of uh i like how they did that little
- 11:34
omar tribute they didn't say it but that
- 11:36
was a homo tribute it was yeah yeah that
- 11:38
was nice
- 11:39
i don't know if i've seen that oh okay
- 11:41
well let's just play caught up mic check
- 11:43
one two one two mike check let me jam
- 11:45
out for a little bit shout out to the
- 11:47
ladies listening ladies
- 11:51
[Music]
- 11:53
parks i'm always doing it for the ladies
- 11:55
guys you should i'm not i don't want to
- 11:57
hang out with a million dicks like these
- 11:58
[ __ ] do i never did never even when i
- 12:01
was young never hey
- 12:03
let me catch this vibe right quick
- 12:05
and it go
- 12:07
and shout out to chad yo my man chad is
- 12:10
in bmf
- 12:11
sweetest guy you ever want to meet man
- 12:14
who shot chad ran the truck
- 12:17
the food truck that was his truck
- 12:19
alfonzo alonso yeah yeah fonzo's
- 12:21
whatever that was
- 12:23
yo and the show is real good cause i
- 12:25
spent some time in detroit and because i
- 12:27
spent some time in detroit that's just
- 12:28
how i'm on it right now yeah i mean
- 12:31
very important moment in
- 12:33
women taking over hip-hop that i
- 12:35
overlooked cause i was busy [ __ ]
- 12:36
[ __ ]
- 12:38
one night stands in melody this is that
- 12:40
error and i didn't understand i didn't
- 12:42
understand what was happening every time
- 12:44
days loaf came on i might have called
- 12:45
ice i was like yo what's up with shorty
- 12:47
man like what's this
- 12:48
like what's this what's going on like
- 12:50
school me you know sometimes be hot [ __ ]
- 12:52
be hot regionally and you might just not
- 12:54
get it and i didn't get her when she
- 12:56
came out right but that was before bodak
- 13:00
yellow
- 13:02
before hot girl summer
- 13:13
uh
- 13:14
rap city was there but before her
- 13:16
emergence yeah
- 13:18
this was before all of that
- 13:21
so i apologize because i was confused in
- 13:24
that bridge
- 13:26
and she don't get the respect that she
- 13:27
gets for being the bridge and she still
- 13:30
put out hot [ __ ] like
- 13:31
last year a couple years ago she keep
- 13:33
they keep pulling up her features and
- 13:35
stuff too right she she stays busy yeah
- 13:38
well watching bmf
- 13:40
and watching them move around detroit
- 13:43
and watching cash doll do such a great
- 13:45
job shout out to cash dog eminem is in
- 13:48
the next episode
- 13:50
i said dan that would be great if days
- 13:52
just popped up in this [ __ ]
- 13:55
detroit detroit yeah i get it
- 13:57
that would be hard there's a role for
- 13:59
her in this she could even play uh
- 14:01
what's the name kato is her name yeah
- 14:03
yeah
- 14:04
they're a little slow in figuring her
- 14:05
out but it's cool it's cool all right we
- 14:07
got a pod to do where y'all here they're
- 14:09
getting better i appreciate it good boy
- 14:11
man you don't care
- 14:14
yes you should do that
- 14:15
that's a lie he's lying he's lying he
- 14:17
might not be that's a lie that might not
- 14:18
he might not be yeah if you see a girl
- 14:20
and mismatch panties and bra you care
- 14:23
stop
- 14:24
[ __ ] kill i appreciate it more with
- 14:26
you
- 14:27
damn i do not care i'm here to [ __ ] not
- 14:31
that [ __ ] coming off it ain't effective
- 14:35
but i appreciate it with that extra mile
- 14:37
the only time i'm gonna be real with you
- 14:39
only time that matching [ __ ] counts is
- 14:41
if you send in some seductive picture or
- 14:42
something like that if i'm about to [ __ ]
- 14:44
i don't care what you have on cause it's
- 14:46
all coming off if you're trying to
- 14:47
entice me and all of that [ __ ] with the
- 14:49
matching set okay that's yeah you are a
- 14:51
br you're a ghetto dude
- 14:53
well you are hey
- 14:57
but when the chick got on matching bra
- 15:00
and panties and they quality some little
- 15:02
pearl of [ __ ] that [ __ ] hit different
- 15:04
why is he a hood with some nice toes
- 15:07
i don't need it but it's appreciated she
- 15:09
can have a t-shirt on and nothing else
- 15:10
that stop right there you know the
- 15:12
t-shirt is that shirt is better than a
- 15:13
larger ring oh the launcher no no no the
- 15:16
t-shirt only is better than the light it
- 15:19
is t-shirt and boy shorts is like
- 15:22
i didn't say anything about lingerie i
- 15:26
know no i'm just saying matching bra and
- 15:28
panties yeah the bar is in hell yeah i
- 15:31
just asked for a matching brush and a
- 15:34
panty set growing up stop it's ice fault
- 15:36
that the bar is in hell yo
- 15:39
let me tell for 10 years for 10 years
- 15:42
maybe 15 years you couldn't even walk by
- 15:44
victoria's secret without them having a
- 15:46
big sand box of matching brandy's
- 15:49
panties and bra pretty you're still in
- 15:51
the front of the store okay boy they are
- 15:53
out of business y'all getting ready to
- 15:54
say it's about they're all out of
- 15:55
business now these big titty chicks is
- 15:57
[ __ ] in pain fenty is on the way
- 16:00
frederick's left
- 16:01
vicki's left i ain't seen a friend
- 16:03
i don't see him no more you [ __ ] it's
- 16:05
an express struggling what they win
- 16:07
target draws
- 16:11
your target draws
- 16:13
use
- 16:14
haynes
- 16:16
haynesduck
- 16:18
they wearing savage fenty
- 16:20
oh everybody can't afford that skims
- 16:22
came out oh oh
- 16:24
skims came out i'm not gonna pretend
- 16:27
like i know what the brands is that's a
- 16:28
little that's good
- 16:29
besides yeah scams i thought that was
- 16:31
like uh athleisure fenty's her wait
- 16:33
skim's kim i never knew
- 16:38
and apparently they did a big some type
- 16:39
of bundle package something new i don't
- 16:41
know but if you talk to girls they did a
- 16:44
collaboration with somebody yo the women
- 16:45
are excited about everything but dick i
- 16:48
don't know if people are noticing i know
- 16:49
this no they just hide it they hide it
- 16:51
very i know but they're hiding it from
- 16:53
the world now it's not just their home
- 16:54
girls and they ain't hunting from that
- 16:56
[ __ ] they're vibrators well no we're
- 16:57
the only ones that know they ain't
- 16:59
hiding it from roscoe ross gonna know
- 17:06
late night roscoe's getting texts [ __ ]
- 17:08
yeah but if a joke ain't a joke if we
- 17:10
never get serious if they don't tell
- 17:11
nobody else it's only us that no if
- 17:13
we're the only thing real we're the only
- 17:14
thing fake it's a myth
- 17:16
dick is like a urban legend now unless
- 17:19
except for when she show up
- 17:21
sex toys is getting fancy
- 17:24
the rose
- 17:25
nah the rose don't replace the dick
- 17:28
don't choke
- 17:29
no hair don't suck no toes the rules
- 17:32
ain't they're just like in your mouth
- 17:34
[ __ ] if they make a rose with arms then
- 17:37
some of us is done
- 17:40
speak for yourself i'm never speaking
- 17:42
for myself i'm never speaking for myself
- 17:58
stop
- 18:02
you talk about the rolls with arms the
- 18:04
girls make me mad
- 18:06
and we know the girls
- 18:14
go ahead bro
- 18:18
the girls that like [ __ ] older dudes
- 18:20
they come over and they want to get the
- 18:22
[ __ ] old to do right and then what
- 18:23
happens is the older dude show you that
- 18:26
that
- 18:32
and then you learn them something good
- 18:34
right and then they happy that dick
- 18:37
ain't the old then they happy that the
- 18:39
rest of the world think that you got old
- 18:42
slavy ass whacked tired dick
- 18:46
and then they won't tell nobody
- 18:48
why would they do you want to broadcast
- 18:50
it i'm letting you know all the reasons
- 18:52
why you will remain a myth
- 18:54
um nothing that you could do to even get
- 18:56
out of mid land
- 18:59
because now you would now you're a [ __ ]
- 19:00
ass [ __ ] go ahead and get out of
- 19:01
mifflin not if you're a celebrity though
- 19:03
you're a celebrity
- 19:05
a jace
- 19:06
no
- 19:07
so they they want they want to talk
- 19:09
they'll talk
- 19:10
it's dangerous can't do that
- 19:13
you could you get in the celebrity land
- 19:14
too you can't just poke around like that
- 19:16
see you got a girl and that's where my
- 19:18
jealousy comes from with y'all because
- 19:20
women keep men
- 19:22
like safe and grounded and drunk
- 19:26
they protect us from ourselves that's
- 19:28
right so whatever i'm doing is over here
- 19:31
y'all is home like so when y'all make
- 19:34
brain make a man decision y'all got
- 19:36
somebody right there to be like yo babe
- 19:38
you don't even normally move like that
- 19:39
anything all right
- 19:41
right
- 19:42
you're right yeah i'm i'm i'm agreeing
- 19:44
with you he was in the shower a little
- 19:45
long this morning everything okay like
- 19:47
if you got a woman that's paying
- 19:49
attention to you i'm saying what does
- 19:50
that mean what the shower
- 19:53
if you just if she's thinking of you and
- 19:54
taking her own
- 19:56
interest out of it she won't think you
- 19:57
in there calling your side chick she'll
- 19:59
be like wow she noticed that she was in
- 20:01
there just a little longer this morning
- 20:04
is everything okay like you know you go
- 20:06
in the bathroom and try to escape some
- 20:07
things you stay in the shower longer let
- 20:08
the water just pour and you stand there
- 20:10
you'll sit in the toilet longer your
- 20:12
[ __ ] was done 30 minutes ago that's true
- 20:14
and you're just sitting here leg being
- 20:15
numb but your girl
- 20:16
but your girl will notice that you're
- 20:18
paying attention right
- 20:20
now if you don't think you texting your
- 20:21
side
- 20:23
then she might say hey anything good i'm
- 20:25
on the gram
- 20:27
still i just i like what i just like the
- 20:30
attentiveness no
- 20:31
just just being just noticing that hey
- 20:34
something's a little different than
- 20:35
anything right but if you notice him
- 20:36
with negative intentions or negative
- 20:38
connotation i don't wanna it's a way to
- 20:40
notice without attacking or anything i
- 20:42
agree like finding out i know like
- 20:44
that's why yo what you in there doing
- 20:46
yeah it's different than the other yeah
- 20:47
you know everything right well that's
- 20:48
why i get i get i get mad i won't say
- 20:51
man but it's a pet peeve of mine when
- 20:52
you hit my phone with smoke without even
- 20:54
seeing my current status oh yeah yeah
- 20:56
i'm down for smoke nah but you're saying
- 20:58
i don't want to smoke smoke yeah i don't
- 21:00
want smoke but we can have smoke as in
- 21:03
conversation about whatever you're sure
- 21:04
sure sure but check what's happening on
- 21:06
this side first
- 21:08
how's how's my mood that's my minute
- 21:09
like you ain't answering
- 21:11
my last four hours yeah i'm in the car
- 21:13
accident with a tire on it
- 21:16
am i in a space to even handle you the
- 21:18
way i want to handle you probably not so
- 21:21
i'ma say something now you gonna get mad
- 21:22
and it's gonna linger for the next two
- 21:24
three weeks but we lit together it's
- 21:25
nasty i'm glad i don't deal with that
- 21:26
type of [ __ ] yeah me either
- 21:28
me either
- 21:31
but you know what i think that
- 21:34
that's why i think men fall short
- 21:37
everywhere no you set the stage for that
- 21:39
in the beginning
- 21:40
like when you're dealing with jealous
- 21:42
chicks or when you're dealing with
- 21:43
insecure women or you're dealing with
- 21:44
any of that [ __ ] you gotta nip that [ __ ]
- 21:46
in the bud early in the relationship
- 21:49
look look look i don't do that i know
- 21:51
you might be accustomed to other [ __ ]
- 21:52
doing that i don't do that and if you
- 21:54
want to see where this goes
- 21:56
we not doing that right you can't i'm
- 21:58
saying you could do that with them you
- 21:59
can't do that with my wife i'm not them
- 22:01
yeah yeah i'm not them so i don't even
- 22:03
play that game you're not calling you're
- 22:05
not getting out of pocket verbally
- 22:06
you're not doing none of this [ __ ]
- 22:08
because i don't move like that so you
- 22:09
can't do that to me
- 22:11
and you gotta understand and make them
- 22:12
recognize that they really can't get
- 22:14
away with that [ __ ] it stops it's a task
- 22:16
it stops though if you stop and
- 22:18
understood some women think that like a
- 22:20
fight is a sign of
- 22:22
adoration adoration yeah and it's not
- 22:24
yeah it's not at all and they've been in
- 22:26
relationships them toxic relationships
- 22:28
yo i read some [ __ ] it was real crazy
- 22:31
um
- 22:32
this lady was getting her hair done
- 22:35
and she said she went to a homegirl
- 22:36
house her homegirl braid you know that
- 22:38
should be taking hours yeah so she said
- 22:40
the lady had two kids
- 22:43
and she was like yo the kids was running
- 22:44
around going crazy kind of distracted
- 22:46
him so the lady's husband left that do
- 22:48
the braiding
- 22:49
she called and was like babe can you
- 22:50
come get them because they
- 22:52
and she said the dude came fifteen
- 22:54
minutes later picked him up left with
- 22:56
the kids to get them away from from
- 22:58
shorty distracted yeah so she can do her
- 23:00
job she said yo to him it took a little
- 23:02
long he ain't eat i know you're gonna be
- 23:04
hungry when he came home ordered food
- 23:06
for him like good [ __ ] for him and she
- 23:08
said yo she had never been in a
- 23:09
relationship one where if she could have
- 23:12
told her dude to come back and get the
- 23:13
kids he would have came back
- 23:15
without beef then number two because she
- 23:18
was braiding hair and knew that he
- 23:20
didn't eat she ordered like dope [ __ ]
- 23:23
for him knowing that he was gonna be
- 23:24
hungry and she didn't get an opportunity
- 23:26
to cook for him small [ __ ] like that is
- 23:30
huge she was yo she was like yo it
- 23:32
[ __ ] her up
- 23:34
to see that and she was like yo i [ __ ]
- 23:36
her up to say yo i've been in all these
- 23:38
toxic situations where small things like
- 23:41
your husband coming back to get the kids
- 23:43
to help you work
- 23:45
is looked at like wow
- 23:48
or the chick making sure that her dude
- 23:50
eats
- 23:51
is like wow you know what i'm saying
- 23:53
like we've really been in some [ __ ] up
- 23:55
situations where girls could look at the
- 23:57
bar is in hell
- 23:59
like that's adoration that's really what
- 24:01
it is girls really think that [ __ ] is
- 24:02
cute arguing that [ __ ] ain't cute man
- 24:05
yeah if you are if you if you argue that
- 24:07
is not right back you care that's right
- 24:09
yeah that's what they think yeah yeah
- 24:10
that's exactly what they did but but
- 24:12
that's to y'all was like yo i like a
- 24:13
little bit of
- 24:15
crazy i don't mean
- 24:21
but for me crazy and toxic are not the
- 24:25
same and i know today
- 24:27
it is a very fun life but today it is a
- 24:29
fine line and that one can lead to the
- 24:31
other very quickly that makes it tough
- 24:33
enough to distinguish as is but today
- 24:36
when we group a whole bunch of words
- 24:38
that people just use and don't really
- 24:40
know that yeah people just meaning of
- 24:42
the word it gets even tougher to
- 24:44
identify more yeah yeah true yeah so
- 24:47
like right when i said like a little bit
- 24:48
of crazy i mean
- 24:51
if i were to cheat let me consider where
- 24:53
this [ __ ] hands might be
- 24:56
that's what i mean
- 24:58
that's not necessarily
- 25:02
toxic
- 25:04
because nothing happened
- 25:05
what you mean though
- 25:08
if i cheat let me consider where her
- 25:10
knuckles are
- 25:12
let's reverse it it's funny because i
- 25:14
just been having some of these
- 25:15
conversations on a little chatty
- 25:18
right but let's reverse it
- 25:21
how many times you went to the store for
- 25:22
a dutch
- 25:25
me
- 25:26
i don't smoke so
- 25:28
wait
- 25:29
how many times
- 25:31
have [ __ ] sent you to the store to get
- 25:33
a dutch and a sunkist
- 25:39
not at 45 i'm sure you probably went to
- 25:40
the store for someone before in your
- 25:42
life
- 25:43
i think he's going somewhere with it
- 25:44
like you making up a story to go out the
- 25:46
house for a touch
- 25:47
no
- 25:48
how many times in your 45 years on earth
- 25:52
has a man
- 25:54
said to you
- 25:55
yo little [ __ ]
- 25:57
go to the store
- 25:58
get this list get yourself something
- 26:01
nice too
- 26:02
how many times that happened
- 26:04
don't answer me
- 26:06
answer me
- 26:07
whatever you answered when i was like 10
- 26:08
or 11 maybe i haven't had that happen
- 26:11
nah that happened to me when i was like
- 26:12
10 11 years old teenagers all right
- 26:15
first intern
- 26:16
that's what you did all right
- 26:18
that was the end and that was the end
- 26:20
right yes i haven't had that ever mostly
- 26:22
in my teens but like i said when i was
- 26:23
interns at studios
- 26:25
true
- 26:26
oh yeah yeah true
- 26:27
true
- 26:28
so are you taking i've heard from enough
- 26:30
women
- 26:34
that guy that was getting sent to the
- 26:37
store to get the list for the [ __ ] on
- 26:39
the block
- 26:41
it ain't the cutest it's not like they
- 26:43
ain't the most attractive man they don't
- 26:45
like that [ __ ]
- 26:47
they don't like that [ __ ]
- 26:48
they don't it's the girls don't like it
- 26:50
it's not something that men even really
- 26:52
think about
- 26:53
but it's one of those things that the
- 26:55
women will pay attention to they
- 26:56
watching when you they watching when
- 26:57
they go to your block how your [ __ ]
- 26:59
just talk until you're treated oh yeah
- 27:00
they make some of that stuff right
- 27:02
so for me
- 27:05
when you fall in love or you meet a girl
- 27:08
never in my wildest dreams did i did it
- 27:10
ever cross my mind hey does she have
- 27:12
hands
- 27:14
because you just don't think that you're
- 27:15
attracted to
- 27:16
some other things until that becomes
- 27:19
important i'm so lost on the correlation
- 27:21
i'm letting them get there
- 27:23
no it's there for women you bump into
- 27:26
that where you learn
- 27:27
oh
- 27:28
she is not for players it's not for me i
- 27:31
can't i can't
- 27:33
i can't play with this [ __ ] a certain
- 27:35
type of way because he don't go to the
- 27:38
store for [ __ ]
- 27:39
that's what i'm saying i got you hey
- 27:41
there's a certain invisible line of just
- 27:43
respect for the person i'm attracted to
- 27:46
where
- 27:47
oh i can't play with him like that uh an
- 27:49
extreme example of that is when uh
- 27:50
[ __ ] be talking about their crazy
- 27:52
acts or the [ __ ] that's in jail so i
- 27:53
gotta watch how i move out here they
- 27:54
might come home get crazy right
- 27:57
bmf
- 27:58
like that but reverse
- 28:01
yes okay
- 28:02
y'all never y'all never
- 28:04
yeah i've been there for a year so i've
- 28:06
been there before so
- 28:08
i get what you're saying it's similar
- 28:10
before i've been there before it's
- 28:11
similar
- 28:12
toxic is
- 28:14
oh
- 28:16
yeah your view of men and your
- 28:18
relationships with men have been a
- 28:20
little bit of rocky maybe because your
- 28:22
relationship with dad has been rocky and
- 28:25
dad's relationship with mom has been
- 28:27
rocky so now your entire upbringing this
- 28:29
is all you know so this is your
- 28:31
environment so this is what you've
- 28:32
adulted into is this [ __ ] and this
- 28:34
sick idea of well you're just a little
- 28:37
mentally old but you lived and what you
- 28:39
experienced
- 28:40
is the norm and now in your adulthood
- 28:42
you got to go outside and find out what
- 28:43
the norm is cause it's outside it wasn't
- 28:45
in your house you were the anomaly
- 28:47
you're all at a small percentage right
- 28:50
and that
- 28:51
can look
- 28:52
toxic when you got to be in the
- 28:54
relationship and learn that she don't
- 28:55
know how to communicate she don't know
- 28:56
how to talk
- 28:57
you keep seeing her run away from [ __ ]
- 28:59
hey her friend did it wrong she ran away
- 29:01
left the group chat
- 29:02
hey such-and-such
- 29:04
her mom said some [ __ ] they stopped
- 29:06
talking for a few weeks you got to be in
- 29:07
there and peep these little things
- 29:10
yes months years
- 29:12
if that is if she don't [ __ ] with her
- 29:14
parents for any period of time that's a
- 29:16
telltale buddy
- 29:18
these are the things that if you're not
- 29:20
paying attention you'll be surprised if
- 29:21
you're not paying attention then that's
- 29:23
where you at with it and then when you
- 29:24
realize he's like oh [ __ ] the signs was
- 29:26
there you know i
- 29:27
know i should have peeped it i see him
- 29:30
first couple weeks i'm going to do
- 29:32
i see him yeah you better have a little
- 29:34
friend i promise you dog i see him like
- 29:36
in this age
- 29:37
if i start talking to you in in a week
- 29:39
or so
- 29:41
we don't just have
- 29:43
i am exit stage left and i will tell you
- 29:46
as politely as possible look this right
- 29:49
here is not for me we're not compatible
- 29:50
that's cause you're your age yeah like
- 29:52
i've been around i've seen that [ __ ]
- 29:54
i've asked i'm not enduring the arguing
- 29:56
the yelling the screaming i don't deal
- 29:58
with that
- 29:59
i've asked the younger dudes
- 30:01
you know dawg
- 30:02
when you see him in courtship and you
- 30:04
see you see when [ __ ] turn it on like
- 30:05
i'm about to turn it on i've asked dude
- 30:07
yo i've been watching you for a little
- 30:09
while and her
- 30:11
she has done abcd efg up to this point
- 30:15
what do you think you're gonna do when
- 30:16
you what you're gonna do when you stick
- 30:17
your dick in there and [ __ ] have said
- 30:20
cross that bridge when i get there yo i
- 30:22
told him yeah
- 30:23
yeah no no
- 30:25
real story no that's what they say i've
- 30:26
i've been that dude
- 30:27
i've been that dude
- 30:28
[Music]
- 30:30
me too i knew already like though she's
- 30:33
not sick now
- 30:35
she stick your dick in her is it you
- 30:37
know what's coming with that at 22. you
- 30:39
know what you when you were watching
- 30:40
younger
- 30:43
look younger that was part of the
- 30:44
attraction mm-hmm yeah it really was no
- 30:46
honestly if you really want to get in
- 30:48
man brain
- 30:49
let's go we're here now man brain is
- 30:51
this [ __ ] i can stupid now wait till i
- 30:52
put this sausage in her it's going to
- 30:54
calm all that down you will definitely
- 30:56
start why don't act like that stop it
- 30:59
and it happens it'd be kind of the
- 31:01
challenge to us the tame the cool yeah
- 31:04
it does yeah yeah and man that is a big
- 31:06
part of it that's a big part of that for
- 31:08
me it was that's the equivalent of them
- 31:09
seeing that the dude ain't [ __ ] and
- 31:10
saying i could change them yeah yeah no
- 31:13
because ain't [ __ ] and crazy is
- 31:14
different no but i'm saying you'll see
- 31:16
the warning signs of containment
- 31:18
it's the same it's the same thought
- 31:19
process yeah
- 31:21
i see something sometimes i can change i
- 31:23
can fix it dick dick has chained a mini
- 31:25
he been a piece of [ __ ] to everybody
- 31:27
it's gonna bounce back eventually no no
- 31:29
the cuckoo's gonna come out with the
- 31:30
better
- 31:35
and you start giving a dick to somebody
- 31:37
else and they're gonna start going ape
- 31:38
[ __ ] or they're gonna think you are they
- 31:40
start going april sometimes that's worse
- 31:41
yeah exactly yeah it's definitely not
- 31:43
sometimes it's always worse thinking i'm
- 31:44
worse thinking i'm doing something
- 31:46
that's a good point no no no i stand
- 31:47
corrected yeah that that that does make
- 31:49
it worse i should come right back i'm
- 31:51
wrong look i'm wrong
- 31:53
[Laughter]
- 31:55
[Music]
- 31:57
but again i just think that um back to
- 32:00
what you were saying
- 32:01
i don't want to deal with that and i'll
- 32:02
introduce the part after yeah
- 32:04
i don't want to deal with crazy slash
- 32:06
toxic i don't want to make the
- 32:07
determination of yo she's just crazy
- 32:09
she's not quite toxic i don't want to do
- 32:11
that no neither i won't either brother
- 32:14
[ __ ] is that oh no i just want to be
- 32:15
happy yeah dawg that [ __ ] is distracting
- 32:17
they ain't making you happy i'm cool
- 32:18
calm household every night
- 32:21
i can i can weather a occasional little
- 32:23
spat but forever yeah like no a normal a
- 32:26
normal disciple on the couch you know
- 32:27
every couple months because we had a
- 32:29
little argument when we was drunk that's
- 32:30
fine definitely depends on where you got
- 32:32
the spat from
- 32:33
yeah
- 32:34
that's true
- 32:35
that's true
- 32:36
yo look at that too but to women
- 32:39
listening on this is real rap that's
- 32:40
your home girl that said that which home
- 32:42
girl tell me
- 32:44
which blogs have you seen this tell me
- 32:47
tell me why
- 32:49
don't even like you hate your publicist
- 32:52
chick floyd's got some stupid idiot by
- 32:54
the side to [ __ ] guide them through
- 32:56
an important decision but uh to the
- 32:58
women listening for real for real
- 33:00
especially us as men
- 33:03
and black men in particular yeah you go
- 33:05
through so much [ __ ]
- 33:07
yeah and parks
- 33:27
[Laughter]
- 33:47
album
- 34:00
you can't really tell chicks all the
- 34:01
time you should move like oh [ __ ]
- 34:14
welcome to episode 487 of the joe budden
- 34:16
podcast i'm your humble gracious
- 34:18
grateful and highly favored host joe
- 34:20
budding here with some really kinky guys
- 34:30
i don't know what you [ __ ] doing in
- 34:31
your rooms but based on the stories that
- 34:33
y'all tell y'all
- 34:35
you don't have to say it to me again
- 34:38
i don't know what y'all doing in your
- 34:39
room
- 34:40
i don't know what you think we're doing
- 34:42
in our room sleeping and drinking all
- 34:43
over
- 34:45
eating asses
- 34:55
she get a birthday out of jail i don't
- 34:57
eat a lot of ass
- 34:59
i'm telling you something anybody don't
- 35:00
get that from joe i got different sex
- 35:03
packages ish that's you i believe you no
- 35:05
no no you didn't pull out that's not
- 35:06
true
- 35:07
everybody every man every time you go to
- 35:09
the car wash you get the fully full
- 35:12
you get the whole [ __ ] armor
- 35:27
[Applause]
- 35:37
yeah just give me the number two today
- 35:39
gold today oh [ __ ] buddy joe did you get
- 35:42
your car washed
- 35:43
oh you're anything i didn't look at it
- 35:45
today oh you got to watch would you yeah
- 35:46
look who ice has to check up on you no
- 35:48
no no it was probably so clairvoyant
- 35:51
look that don't mean that but so
- 35:54
i don't mean that but so it was probably
- 35:56
sitting there so
- 36:08
yo this [ __ ] here boy see that's rich
- 36:11
people chill this guy so what about the
- 36:13
birds
- 36:15
don't drive the car drive it to the car
- 36:18
wash that's kind of saucy though
- 36:21
that's kind of saucy if you think about
- 36:22
it yeah i agree
- 36:24
all right you're just a hater
- 36:27
come on we got man we got mad important
- 36:30
things
- 36:31
to get to or not really or not
- 36:35
all right all right all right
- 36:38
yo there are a lot there's so much to
- 36:41
talk about in hip-hop unfortunately
- 36:43
journalism is at a point today
- 36:45
to where we can't talk about that i'm
- 36:48
not talking about how this [ __ ] is the
- 36:50
wild wild west you got me [ __ ] up this
- 36:52
is the muffins
- 36:56
i'm not sure where you were going to
- 36:57
start but if you're certain where i
- 36:58
think you're going to start i'm cool you
- 36:59
know
- 37:01
thoughts and prayers
- 37:02
thoughts and prayers
- 37:04
no i got a cool sleep for the day
- 37:13
i heard enough stories listen thoughts
- 37:16
and prayers everything that i have
- 37:17
written down let me start with this
- 37:19
youtubers
- 37:21
audio listeners everything written down
- 37:24
is mob ties
- 37:26
[Music]
- 37:27
if you want to start with big bird get
- 37:29
in the vaccine
- 37:31
mob talks it's mob ties fair
- 37:34
if you want to start with kanye's
- 37:36
beautiful letter
- 37:37
mob ties it's mob allegedly
- 37:41
if you want to start with some of this
- 37:44
concert festival stuff
- 37:47
good luck how you doing it's mine
- 37:51
it's mob ties right let me see what else
- 37:54
i got written down because it's all mom
- 37:55
time
- 37:57
i mean leonardo dicaprio played in some
- 37:59
mob movies oh
- 38:07
so just different mobs
- 38:09
but
- 38:10
as we
- 38:11
as we enjoy this human experience
- 38:14
you learn
- 38:16
shut the [ __ ] there's mobs everywhere
- 38:17
it's all it's mobs all over it's mob's
- 38:20
all over and as i keep having to explain
- 38:23
to the new age civilians
- 38:26
i like this part today
- 38:28
i like it wayne nowhere near finish
- 38:32
the full circle moment is when y'all
- 38:34
were talking off mike about how old
- 38:36
sivan's dad is
- 38:38
the guy comes full circle
- 38:40
look at that
- 38:42
savon's dad is somewhere around my age
- 38:44
real [ __ ] shout damn round of applause
- 38:46
man that's my guy
- 38:47
beautiful [ __ ] senior that you shot
- 38:49
out there this kid
- 38:52
kid's beautiful this kid's great you
- 38:54
know when you meet somebody mom and
- 38:55
grandpa's yo you did a great job yo
- 38:57
yo
- 38:58
talked about your all-time job you did
- 39:00
how you raised yeah
- 39:02
like don't even matter if you were there
- 39:03
you owe me the jobs you did devon's
- 39:05
great right yes yes
- 39:08
that should be a constant reminder that
- 39:11
[ __ ] was born in one
- 39:15
98
- 39:19
what [ __ ]
- 39:22
96 son
- 39:24
yeah he was born when the fuji's dropped
- 39:30
if you listen real good you can hear how
- 39:32
stupid he is
- 39:33
he said 94.
- 39:36
same thing
- 39:38
as 94 in 2000 my god
- 39:41
it ain't hard to tell off the radio by
- 39:43
the time he wasn't even a thought before
- 39:46
that that's what i'm saying why do you
- 39:47
think the [ __ ] is he trauma
- 39:50
they think they old [ __ ] those people
- 39:54
exist we just our parents i had a dream
- 39:58
the other day that's all it is and i'm
- 40:00
sick
- 40:01
i had a dream the other day that
- 40:04
at adulthood
- 40:06
at every birthday you had
- 40:09
that's who you spent the year with
- 40:11
the people that were that age
- 40:15
you didn't see nobody else oh you
- 40:17
thought it was just but that your age
- 40:20
group and now y'all stuck as a community
- 40:23
having to escape the room let the 23
- 40:25
year olds be with the 23 year old all
- 40:27
year
- 40:28
yeah for the year and ask somebody turns
- 40:30
23 they enter that [ __ ] that's right
- 40:32
because iowa
- 40:34
what's going on
- 40:40
yo they would go crazy son
- 40:43
they would go crazy yo if you sit a
- 40:44
bunch of all the 24 year olds gotta be
- 40:46
with all the 24 year olds all year may
- 40:49
have mate straight
- 40:51
[ __ ]
- 40:53
nuts
- 40:54
you got to survive have you got to make
- 40:56
it to your 40s dawg rikers i'm so glad
- 40:59
it's right because i'm so glad dudes in
- 41:01
their 40s just don't break out in a fist
- 41:03
fight randomly like back in the day i'm
- 41:06
glad my child doesn't have to live
- 41:07
through that i forgot who i was talking
- 41:08
about fighting with the other day i was
- 41:09
just like i'm so glad i don't fight no
- 41:11
more yeah that is just for the birds
- 41:13
yeah like now the 20 year olds don't
- 41:15
break out into a fight either i know
- 41:17
they're backing out but that's why i'm a
- 41:18
hypocrite now they're whipping out
- 41:19
because i'm gonna come in here
- 41:21
oh my god everyone stopped the killing
- 41:23
but another and i could see how dudes
- 41:25
just wasn't in the mood to fight that
- 41:26
day
- 41:27
i'm just in the mood to shoot i'm not
- 41:30
fighting i'm not i'm not exerting energy
- 41:32
it's the fact that you know i'm going to
- 41:34
do this
- 41:34
i'm going to do this i got camera phones
- 41:36
now
- 41:37
everybody got camera phones i can't take
- 41:38
this l yo fan sometimes i go outside and
- 41:40
be like yo are you crazy this is a
- 41:42
really bad time for a fight to break out
- 41:43
for me like my morning was rough
- 41:50
i have to get to it then let's get to it
- 41:52
but i'm gonna feel it in the following
- 41:54
days i don't want to do any of that
- 41:56
yeah
- 41:57
yeah if i could see how a young dude
- 41:59
would feel like that
- 42:02
19 you can get to it
- 42:05
at the drop of a hat you don't got no
- 42:06
[ __ ] bad bones at 19. put your hands
- 42:09
up [ __ ] doing some [ __ ] looking for
- 42:10
it anybody looking yeah i'm popping off
- 42:13
yeah now that same [ __ ] is 19.
- 42:17
what a glock fam they different i rolled
- 42:18
in the middle of the pack let's see if
- 42:20
the leaders can negotiate us out of this
- 42:23
let's see let's see if the guys in the
- 42:25
back is really [ __ ] well that's the
- 42:26
other problem i think this is a good
- 42:28
spot to be mermaid squid games when dude
- 42:30
couldn't choose between number one and
- 42:31
the last number 19. it was like all that
- 42:33
it's like one of those
- 42:34
guys listen you got to pick your spot in
- 42:36
squad i didn't want to be in the front
- 42:38
in squid games i'm not taking number one
- 42:40
sometimes we was going to do's block
- 42:42
where i like a couple of those dudes
- 42:43
like
- 42:45
it's my man right there come on man we
- 42:47
gotta all right
- 42:50
i hope they piece it up in the front yo
- 42:52
you stupid get back here i don't want to
- 42:54
get into that oh my god
- 42:56
that's another issue there's no there's
- 42:57
no organization no more like like it
- 42:59
used to be which mob story would you
- 43:01
gentlemen like to begin with i don't
- 43:03
have very much to say about any of it
- 43:04
i'm on vacation already i keep telling
- 43:06
y'all
- 43:07
we're not here next week
- 43:10
you're the
- 43:11
leader of this
- 43:13
yeah you captain of the shipwreck
- 43:16
yeah we in the middle
- 43:17
i'm in the middle all right so i mean i
- 43:19
guess we will start with travis scott
- 43:22
okay travis scott
- 43:25
we've discussed this because we've
- 43:26
discussed it yeah um but travis scott in
- 43:29
the astroworld festival if you were
- 43:30
unaware took place
- 43:32
when was that over weekend friday night
- 43:34
over there last night it was friday
- 43:37
saturday was cancelled
- 43:39
uh
- 43:40
hysteria over there uh
- 43:42
horror
- 43:43
horror over there stampede
- 43:46
lives were lost uh eight lives so far
- 43:48
hundreds of people injured
- 43:50
uh over 300
- 43:52
over 300 what over 300 people injured
- 43:56
including a 10 year old countless
- 43:57
lawsuits a nine-year-old a 12 year old
- 44:01
children uh horror stories being written
- 44:04
videos resurfacing or surfacing
- 44:07
of allegations of people running around
- 44:09
and poking people with needles with
- 44:11
drugs in it against their will
- 44:14
they haven't been substantiated yet but
- 44:16
and a lot and a lot of different parties
- 44:18
at play i want to be very careful
- 44:21
handling this
- 44:22
because there's an ongoing investigation
- 44:25
one
- 44:26
uh
- 44:26
two because these are peers this is our
- 44:29
peer group three we work very closely
- 44:32
with live nation as does anyone that
- 44:34
tours the country that
- 44:36
works around the country at these venues
- 44:38
right
- 44:39
uh but this was a live nation event the
- 44:41
four of these are human beings andy's i
- 44:43
was about to say that too i was gonna
- 44:45
let you know
- 44:46
most importantly i started that's by
- 44:47
default
- 44:49
but lies were lost so you just want to
- 44:50
handle this in a real sensitive manner
- 44:52
and this was a horrific story to read
- 44:55
and continue to read because we had to
- 44:57
keep reading about it
- 44:59
um so where do we begin with this
- 45:02
for me it's
- 45:06
probably at the performer
- 45:08
center stage
- 45:11
okay the show's going on
- 45:14
i think you start with the the planning
- 45:16
i don't i don't start
- 45:23
theoretically part of the plan yeah if
- 45:25
you don't want to do it the other way
- 45:27
then let's do it the other way to my
- 45:29
understanding
- 45:30
this
- 45:31
capacity was 200 000
- 45:35
and when they were planning for the
- 45:36
tickets
- 45:37
the number was 50 000
- 45:40
as a performer
- 45:42
looking at the crowd
- 45:43
that was more than 50 000 people
- 45:46
and that was more than a hundred
- 45:48
thousand people
- 45:50
but you said the capacity capacity
- 45:52
was 200 000 gotcha tells me
- 45:56
we're safe yes
- 45:58
because initially we said it in the
- 46:00
reverse
- 46:01
that the capacity was fifty thousand two
- 46:03
hundred and two hundred thousand people
- 46:04
showed up so now we've cleared that up
- 46:06
feel free to fact check me
- 46:08
i'm off the dome because we got a lot to
- 46:10
get to in real time
- 46:12
but if it was 200 grand was the capacity
- 46:14
and they were at a buck a buck 50. we
- 46:16
can kind of take back the allegations
- 46:18
that they oversold tickets on purpose
- 46:20
right right we could take back the the
- 46:22
allegations that you you staffed
- 46:25
security wise slow down slow it down
- 46:28
cause i was getting we're gonna break it
- 46:29
all
- 46:30
down that's where i was going i was
- 46:31
waiting speeding right now i don't slow
- 46:33
down so we'll get there at venue size
- 46:38
we're safe
- 46:40
correct
- 46:41
don't mean you were staffed for now true
- 46:43
listen
- 46:44
don't speed okay let's not touch staff
- 46:47
yet let's break it all the way down
- 46:50
we're touring soon
- 46:53
and i've toured and you've toured
- 46:56
sometimes in your negotiations with
- 46:58
different venues in different states and
- 47:00
cities
- 47:01
depending on the event
- 47:03
the promoter or the planner or whoever
- 47:06
you're working with the venue
- 47:08
or live nation or somebody probably live
- 47:10
nation will say
- 47:12
this ain't for kids under 18.
- 47:15
you can't
- 47:17
well you can't
- 47:18
you can't have oh yeah yeah you can't
- 47:21
got yourself out you're going to be
- 47:22
under 18 years old at this event gotcha
- 47:24
that leaves a decision to be made on our
- 47:27
side right
- 47:29
because we were planning for tickets we
- 47:31
think that we got some cool 16 17 year
- 47:35
olds that should be able to attend this
- 47:37
is astroworld themed after a theme park
- 47:40
yeah i understand from six flags astral
- 47:42
world if i am the performer and i pose
- 47:45
this question to you you guys oh
- 47:49
and someone suggests to me
- 47:52
a dog 18 and up for this travis scott
- 47:54
show should probably not be all ages
- 47:57
i wouldn't think so i wouldn't think so
- 47:59
either
- 48:00
just based on but without without
- 48:02
knowing anything that happened
- 48:04
if you're in the mix here
- 48:06
and it's travis scott one of the biggest
- 48:08
stars in the world actually i should
- 48:09
have started with that because a lot of
- 48:10
the people out there don't know the type
- 48:12
of earner he is you all don't know what
- 48:14
it means to see a hundred thousand
- 48:17
people show up at an event like this
- 48:19
tickets probably sold out quickly asleep
- 48:21
oh yes
- 48:22
you all don't know what it means to see
- 48:24
that elaborate of a merchandise booth
- 48:28
it means something you gotta go through
- 48:29
that to know that but this is a high
- 48:32
high earning event which shows plant in
- 48:35
vegas and wherever they had a run plant
- 48:38
well no no they didn't have a run plant
- 48:40
astro world is its own festival like how
- 48:42
we said rolling loud or something like
- 48:43
that was
- 48:44
he was set to perform at another
- 48:46
festival in vegas called day in vegas
- 48:48
yeah i'm not talking about that well
- 48:49
you're saying i i said there was a they
- 48:51
canceled saturday astroworld astro world
- 48:54
day one houston day two houston it was
- 48:58
two days back-to-back yeah like how
- 49:00
rowland laughs
- 49:06
the second night correct
- 49:08
uh the domino effect was other festivals
- 49:11
that he was booked for begin to cancel
- 49:13
him he pulled out of the other festival
- 49:17
they didn't cancel him yeah i would have
- 49:18
doubted him he said yo i'm a little too
- 49:20
distraught right now over what happened
- 49:22
i can't perform right now and his pr
- 49:24
wouldn't let him perform anyway if
- 49:25
that's [ __ ]
- 49:28
that's [ __ ]
- 49:29
i disagree
- 49:31
i'm not arguing i'm gonna tell you i'm
- 49:32
gonna tell you because it's all open for
- 49:33
interpretation why i think it was not
- 49:35
[ __ ] i'm gonna tell you and what
- 49:37
pieces don't make me get in my phone
- 49:38
because there were some other festivals
- 49:41
that came out and said
- 49:43
safety of our crowd has always come
- 49:45
first as the result of the other day's
- 49:48
events
- 49:49
we go which festival did that
- 49:53
but
- 49:54
he's gonna find it in vegas is the one
- 49:55
that he which part did you think is
- 49:57
[ __ ]
- 49:58
i'm saying what are the other festivals
- 49:59
he'll pull it up
- 50:01
and if you can't i'll find it but
- 50:03
it's not it's important yeah yeah yeah
- 50:04
yeah it started
- 50:06
but i'm gonna tell you why i agree it
- 50:07
might have been
- 50:09
even this day and festival announcement
- 50:11
of him pulling out may have just been
- 50:12
saving face
- 50:14
because the back no i'm saying they
- 50:16
might the festival might have said your
- 50:17
dogs say something saying you can't be
- 50:19
here we'll let you save face but we
- 50:21
can't have you here that's impossible i
- 50:23
say that because
- 50:25
fortnite
- 50:27
everybody know what fortnite it means to
- 50:29
these little kids that big-ass video
- 50:31
game
- 50:32
culture
- 50:34
he did a concert in fortnite
- 50:36
he had skins which are like
- 50:38
uh allows your character to look like
- 50:40
him
- 50:41
they immediately pulled all travis scott
- 50:44
[ __ ] out of the game
- 50:47
so it's it could be some little you
- 50:49
think that was by his request and that's
- 50:50
what i'm saying that's why i'm inclined
- 50:52
i'm telling i'm giving my opinion
- 50:54
because i believe i can see through some
- 50:57
of this media fodder
- 50:59
travis scott yeah and that's what it is
- 51:02
travis scott has not spoken a word
- 51:06
in years
- 51:08
y'all fans ain't heard his voice
- 51:11
talking
- 51:12
in years this is not a joe observation
- 51:15
this is a fact
- 51:17
the last time he opened his mouth he put
- 51:19
his [ __ ] foot in it and i'm sure
- 51:20
somebody said yo shut the [ __ ] up don't
- 51:22
mention that type of [ __ ] again it was
- 51:24
some social justice [ __ ]
- 51:25
where he just came out sounding like oh
- 51:28
well i mean you deserve but i mean i
- 51:30
don't know and [ __ ] shut up
- 51:32
somebody went to him and said shut up
- 51:35
and we ain't heard from him
- 51:38
until the other day
- 51:40
because somebody said you gotta say
- 51:42
something you have to say something
- 51:44
that's how this game goes yeah
- 51:46
when i went to see what he said
- 51:48
it sounded like somebody said
- 51:51
you got to go say something
- 51:53
and that's where i was mad in our other
- 51:55
conversation that the patrons will get
- 51:57
if i lose my kid
- 52:00
and those are your words to the public
- 52:02
it don't make me feel so sincere at the
- 52:05
heart it made me feel like we're
- 52:07
covering up for business and we're
- 52:08
trying to protect some things and when
- 52:10
there's this amount of millions at stake
- 52:13
yeah that's not out of bounds for me you
- 52:15
know that's not far fetched know my
- 52:17
problem with this my problem with this
- 52:19
is
- 52:20
you all know what travis scott brings to
- 52:23
what the travis shots travis scott show
- 52:25
brings who's y'all the the festival
- 52:27
organizers okay that's why the community
- 52:29
the community the culture period yeah
- 52:31
you know what he what he brings this is
- 52:33
why you book him this is why he get that
- 52:35
top slot
- 52:36
he just is the money maker
- 52:39
you know it's pandemonium he encourages
- 52:42
pandemonium at his shows granite has
- 52:43
never been to this extent before but
- 52:46
y'all was cool with it
- 52:48
with
- 52:49
encouraging the [ __ ] to happen you
- 52:50
knew this is what he gets on stage and
- 52:52
do now it's oh we got a distance yeah
- 52:54
what's the ticket prices like that's
- 52:55
your world
- 52:57
i don't imagine a couple hundred today
- 52:59
at least easily yeah and that's why
- 53:02
as hard as it is i try i'm ignoring i my
- 53:05
ear tunes out what isis saying
- 53:07
because just when you think about humans
- 53:09
right if 20 million is at play in the
- 53:12
next eight hours
- 53:14
we're gonna do some things
- 53:17
yeah that's humans
- 53:19
so
- 53:20
yeah what you're saying is right ice but
- 53:22
this look at this [ __ ] this bit it's
- 53:23
eight figures that in 2019 it was 179
- 53:27
for a two-day plan
- 53:29
300.
- 53:30
300 plus i'm not gonna pull my
- 53:32
calculator out it's just good it's got
- 53:35
it and i'm not asking him because i know
- 53:36
he's good at math i don't want to know
- 53:38
because i know
- 53:39
i ain't carry the one
- 53:41
and then they announce he's giving full
- 53:43
refunds back
- 53:44
i'm not counting the merch see this is
- 53:47
where i stand
- 53:50
i don't blame him
- 53:53
because from what i've read a shitload
- 53:56
of people snuck in
- 53:58
right they bum rushed they said a
- 54:00
shitload of people snuck in right that
- 54:01
[ __ ] like jokers was do you know doing
- 54:03
[ __ ] [ __ ]
- 54:05
and um
- 54:09
i let me take that back i don't know how
- 54:11
this goes and i don't know how they set
- 54:12
it up right i don't know who's
- 54:14
responsible for what but when you see
- 54:16
the patrons knocking down the gates and
- 54:18
rushing in
- 54:20
it's like yo we could have potentially
- 54:23
they got gates up this gets to my next
- 54:25
point you know my problem hold on hold
- 54:26
on joe what's going on what's up what's
- 54:27
up coco ish this is my problem with
- 54:31
if you look at any of the promo videos
- 54:33
for astro world before this like what
- 54:35
they put out
- 54:37
guess what they show
- 54:38
[ __ ] like that
- 54:39
it's almost like they're they know the
- 54:41
[ __ ] comes they encounter they've
- 54:43
done this before they highlight it
- 54:45
that's what i've been trying to tell
- 54:46
y'all like what travis brings is a
- 54:48
little different
- 54:50
it's like look
- 54:51
when you're getting a point you know
- 54:52
they're going to do this wild [ __ ] but
- 54:54
you don't have to you you i think
- 54:55
there's a lot of people
- 54:57
and travis is probably one of them i
- 54:58
wouldn't exonerate him but i'll say he's
- 55:01
innocent either
- 55:02
before i get to travis i'm gonna try my
- 55:05
best to break down some important
- 55:06
elements here
- 55:08
staffing is my next one
- 55:10
apparently there were 750 officers
- 55:14
there
- 55:18
i've spoken to some people it seems like
- 55:20
it seems like i'd say that's a lot
- 55:22
that's a lot seems like a lot sound like
- 55:24
a lot yeah sounds like a lot to me
- 55:26
because that's just officers
- 55:28
there's probably also security and you
- 55:30
know
- 55:31
750 officers
- 55:34
sounds like a line it does right if it's
- 55:38
like organized correctly and because
- 55:40
again that's just obviously because you
- 55:41
figured including you just stopped you
- 55:42
think of the cities other people are
- 55:43
going to help maintain this is what ian
- 55:45
was saying and me and him thought about
- 55:47
it
- 55:48
he said well you think of the cities and
- 55:50
sounds about right you got one cop for
- 55:52
every 10 000 people in the city
- 55:55
well this ain't the city
- 55:57
it ain't spread out
- 55:59
this is 120 000 people come in one split
- 56:06
750 in a worst case scenario
- 56:09
if all of these people begin to
- 56:12
push
- 56:14
that's just on the slightest if they
- 56:16
begin to push now they begin to jump up
- 56:18
and down and make a circle and push
- 56:19
people out the way and now there's force
- 56:22
of people the wave
- 56:24
a wave if you watch a hundred foot wave
- 56:26
they'll tell you about how a wave is
- 56:28
formed and how tough it is to get over a
- 56:30
wave because of how it's formed with the
- 56:32
force of the whole [ __ ] ocean doing
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it it's deep
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750 people don't sound like enough to
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control a worst case scenario
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for every for almost every 270 people
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it's one cop
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for almost every two rushing the
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barricade i'm jumping over if i don't
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have a ticket i'm hopping that one so
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but again
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we don't know if that includes
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that we don't know if that includes like
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private security unless they don't let's
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say it don't right okay you could double
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it was a thousand no
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it says there was 505 event security
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staff 91 armed private security officers
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and 76
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officers from the houston police
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department at the event okay so the 750
- 57:11
is total total support that's not enough
- 57:13
that's probably not no no listen
- 57:15
let's double but i guess i can see how
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they would think of something yeah but
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again you going off of whatever matrix
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yeah you're going off for whatever
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standard and metric that you have and
- 57:23
even if you're true and even if
- 57:33
bro you do south by southwest you do
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rolling loud you looking at these people
- 57:37
this is what they do exactly these
- 57:38
festival [ __ ] they're not new
- 57:40
to the rodeo this is what they do but so
- 57:42
you saying for rolling loud we had
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500. travis scott brings a different
- 57:47
level of pandemonium let's do 750. right
- 57:49
even if they had 1500 [ __ ] when
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you talking about 200 000 people now you
- 57:55
talking about one cop for every 130
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people if the people still want to be
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unruly they can and there's nothing you
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could do
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they can
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one cop for every 130 people 100 140
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people this is where it gets freaky now
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right
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and you got to use your own brain for
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this type of stuff
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now the police
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sheriff the head
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comes out and says
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yo prior to the event a week before we
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met with travis and his people we said
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we didn't think that this was staffed
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correctly
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and you might need a little more and
- 58:28
we're aware of your history so please be
- 58:31
careful in how you behave i have a
- 58:33
problem with that
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well first of all do we believe this
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i don't believe it i don't believe that
- 58:39
no okay i don't believe that because
- 58:40
everybody's trying to cover their
- 58:42
[ __ ] of course
- 58:44
absolutely right
- 58:46
but maybe you could see it happening
- 58:48
honestly i mean you trying to get your
- 58:50
guys some ot if you the police sheriff
- 58:52
yeah yeah i want a couple more of my
- 58:54
guys being on the assignment i want
- 58:55
another 100 guys on that assignment well
- 58:57
i mean
- 58:58
the worst case and if i'm being positive
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y'all know my city
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true i know my city and i know you i
- 59:03
know how we get i think we need more
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yeah yo when i you let it go down if
- 59:08
they say no
- 59:09
when i when i hired the cops for the
- 59:10
pool party very low scale here but when
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i had the cops for the pool party like
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yo let me get two cops out there and
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they was like how many people you
- 59:16
expecting and i told them they was like
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sure you don't want another car why you
- 59:20
say that
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just i just know my city
- 59:24
nighttime
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a lot of cars park neighbors it could
- 59:27
get
- 59:28
you might want more than one just so the
- 59:30
neighbors could feel cool like we'll
- 59:32
handle it hey you're right hey book it
- 59:34
book it so it's one of those
- 59:38
i believe it
- 59:40
maybe it didn't go like that
- 59:41
but i believe that concern was expressed
- 59:44
i'm sure
- 59:46
and i believe [ __ ] might have said get
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the [ __ ] out of here y'all cops we do
- 59:50
this we do this for a living
- 59:53
yeah it's true too egos come into play
- 59:55
well no back to the the companies that
- 59:58
do this they got the metrics we do 100
- 1:00:00
police officers we throw 500 events a
- 1:00:03
year of houston deputy man right thank
- 1:00:06
you
- 1:00:07
we got it though yeah hey this is 20 30
- 1:00:09
40 50 million dollar business in nine
- 1:00:11
hours hey yo dawg appreciate you
- 1:00:15
but it's above you i'm serious not a
- 1:00:17
stranger [ __ ] i agree how do you leave
- 1:00:20
we do this this is what we do you're out
- 1:00:21
of your league
- 1:00:23
we got it thanks for the suggestion
- 1:00:26
152 total
- 1:00:30
sounds like someone could interpret it
- 1:00:32
as negligence that's what i'll say
- 1:00:34
sounds like you might have been prepared
- 1:00:36
if things are going normally but at this
- 1:00:38
event you have to plan for a worst case
- 1:00:40
scenario lawyers are telling you all the
- 1:00:42
time playing for the worst case scenario
- 1:00:43
it's my job i know you don't think it'll
- 1:00:44
go like that
- 1:00:46
i'm telling you it might happen like
- 1:00:48
this we need to be protected but again
- 1:00:50
that's all relative to what the norms
- 1:00:52
are
- 1:00:53
we don't know
- 1:00:54
what the norms are
- 1:00:56
but you get what i'm saying it's
- 1:00:58
reasonable to assume that they probably
- 1:01:00
handled it the way they're used to
- 1:01:01
handling yeah yeah or
- 1:01:04
a little bit above and beyond what the
- 1:01:06
norms are
- 1:01:08
because it is him well that's back to my
- 1:01:11
other patreon point
- 1:01:13
hip-hop don't know how to [ __ ] my
- 1:01:15
spit
- 1:01:16
well yeah
- 1:01:18
stop [ __ ] stealing everything
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thieves no cause i don't think it's a
- 1:01:23
money thing i just don't you don't know
- 1:01:24
how to mosh pit dogs there is a culture
- 1:01:26
to mosh yes it is 250 there's a way to
- 1:01:30
do it and you think i think all of the
- 1:01:32
rock and roll venues are staffed over
- 1:01:34
the top to prevent this type of thing no
- 1:01:37
i don't i just think we doing something
- 1:01:40
because it's making this type of money
- 1:01:42
and it's garnering us this attention at
- 1:01:43
these festivals and these bookings and
- 1:01:45
these rates
- 1:01:46
but we ain't really thinking about like
- 1:01:48
the safety of [ __ ] again this is the
- 1:01:50
same artist who has the lyrics saying if
- 1:01:53
it ain't it ain't a mosh pit if it ain't
- 1:01:55
no injuries
- 1:01:56
like he need to delete that picture that
- 1:01:58
academics said it's still on his
- 1:01:59
instagram or the white kid laid out
- 1:02:01
thank the lord
- 1:02:03
see because we in lawsuit land now there
- 1:02:05
we go and if you didn't know that
- 1:02:09
well [ __ ] why did you think kylie
- 1:02:10
jenner keeps posting about whatever the
- 1:02:12
[ __ ] she's posting about
- 1:02:16
that's another billion dollar family
- 1:02:19
they don't just talk they don't waste
- 1:02:21
words for free
- 1:02:23
there's a reason that you move every
- 1:02:24
piece on the board the reason you play
- 1:02:26
every card these [ __ ] ain't just
- 1:02:28
grabbing their phones to tell you all
- 1:02:30
their deepest concerns i saw a drake uh
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post
- 1:02:36
i'm sure he went and got with his
- 1:02:37
[ __ ] team how do we handle this this
- 1:02:39
this is horrible
- 1:02:41
we gotta jump out a meeting was
- 1:02:44
immediately seven o'clock in the morning
- 1:02:46
maybe one o'clock in the morning they
- 1:02:47
had how do i address this
- 1:02:50
billion dollar business yeah billion
- 1:02:52
dollars and the consumer don't never
- 1:02:54
look at it that way because we're on the
- 1:02:56
other side of the fence
- 1:02:57
but when it's that type of money yo any
- 1:03:00
show in the world where that type of
- 1:03:01
money is at stake hey the next scene
- 1:03:03
could get tense
- 1:03:05
we might concede backstabbing
- 1:03:08
we might concede murder we might
- 1:03:10
conceive who knows we might could see
- 1:03:11
the couple the wife run off you don't
- 1:03:14
know what you could see when that type
- 1:03:16
of money is at stake i don't know why
- 1:03:17
because this is thinly veiled under the
- 1:03:19
guise of hip-hop that we don't apply
- 1:03:21
that same thinking you're right true
- 1:03:24
because again at two posturing 200 000
- 1:03:27
people at 365 a ticket dogs
- 1:03:31
no you're talking seven million seventy
- 1:03:33
million dollars in one day and that
- 1:03:35
don't count the merch we're not even
- 1:03:37
counting the merch and beverages and
- 1:03:38
food damn it's a bigger take than money
- 1:03:40
heist yeah for families go watch money
- 1:03:43
hype you're talking about two days my
- 1:03:45
[ __ ]
- 1:03:46
yeah i don't think i don't even think
- 1:03:47
about parking oh my god
- 1:03:49
everything's consistent
- 1:03:52
all that [ __ ] sanitizer i let the [ __ ]
- 1:03:54
set up the fruit the fruit stand at the
- 1:03:56
pool party thank me for the next six
- 1:03:58
months
- 1:03:58
[Laughter]
- 1:03:59
the taco truck last year thanked me for
- 1:04:02
the next three months uh-huh hey the
- 1:04:03
pineapples was on business that you just
- 1:04:05
responsible for
- 1:04:07
no it was great until i had to carry out
- 1:04:09
bags of empty [ __ ] fruit he didn't
- 1:04:11
help me with no dog you talking about
- 1:04:13
again just from the gate money
- 1:04:15
yeah it's 150
- 1:04:18
million dollars in two i see what some
- 1:04:20
of you [ __ ] do for a thousand dollars
- 1:04:23
a half a billion dollar take yeah
- 1:04:27
he's one of them yeah he's one of them
- 1:04:29
you know the festival i'm talking about
- 1:04:31
that announced they were uh
- 1:04:33
uh removing him they also announced that
- 1:04:35
they were replacing him
- 1:04:37
you gotta bring in another heavy hitter
- 1:04:39
to get that back don't know how i feel
- 1:04:40
about this post malone that's the
- 1:04:41
invention do you know the headache
- 1:04:44
that that company had to deal with just
- 1:04:46
to think about replacing the likes of a
- 1:04:48
trainer in a week the list was short
- 1:04:51
that list was short in a week we got to
- 1:04:52
see if they even available it's festival
- 1:04:54
season [ __ ] is out [ __ ] running
- 1:04:56
around yeah so they had to make it a lot
- 1:04:59
of people had a headache and a migraine
- 1:05:02
when this occurred
- 1:05:04
aside from us reading it as humans with
- 1:05:06
human hearts filled with love
- 1:05:09
this is a catastrophe on all
- 1:05:12
all
- 1:05:13
levels which brings me to my final point
- 1:05:15
that i sat with for a little bit
- 1:05:18
looking at this through the eyes of the
- 1:05:20
entertainer
- 1:05:21
it's tough i don't expect everybody to
- 1:05:23
be able to get it
- 1:05:25
that's why i can't listen to everybody
- 1:05:27
we are trained
- 1:05:31
from yay high
- 1:05:35
to keep the show going the show must go
- 1:05:37
on we are yo i believe that
- 1:05:40
it's it's drilled in your head i don't
- 1:05:43
think but in the same in the same token
- 1:05:45
though you're also drilled at crowd
- 1:05:47
control
- 1:05:49
crowd control
- 1:05:50
wait wait hold on
- 1:05:51
crowd control
- 1:05:53
is one thing
- 1:05:54
at sobs
- 1:05:56
i get it and again plaza and again and
- 1:05:59
again we now out he's the opposite of
- 1:06:01
that with over 100 000 people i've
- 1:06:04
missed things in a room of 10. and he
- 1:06:06
high up it's dark outside you he [ __ ]
- 1:06:10
around i don't know if he smokes or
- 1:06:11
drinks he might be high or drunk or
- 1:06:13
whatever the [ __ ] case
- 1:06:15
and the party and he encouraged like you
- 1:06:18
don't you see the wild [ __ ] happening
- 1:06:20
and that's that's what i was going to
- 1:06:21
get to yeah like because yes there is
- 1:06:24
two hundred thousand hundred thousand
- 1:06:25
people out there
- 1:06:27
i want your agent that
- 1:06:29
adore you yes
- 1:06:31
you can have you can you can
- 1:06:33
contr and your control your crowd
- 1:06:35
control is part of what made you how old
- 1:06:37
how old is travis scott screaming he's
- 1:06:39
young
- 1:06:40
pull it up
- 1:06:42
let's keep this in its proper
- 1:06:44
perspective i don't know how old is i
- 1:06:46
ain't the biggest fan i like tekko mo
- 1:06:48
you could tell what his fan base is his
- 1:06:49
fan base i like that early 20s mid 20s i
- 1:06:52
like all his music late teens to but
- 1:06:54
he's one i like his music i don't know
- 1:06:56
him right that's what i mean like 30
- 1:06:58
years old blurred today amongst these
- 1:07:00
fans i love travis scott music i don't
- 1:07:03
know this [ __ ] i can't tell you what he
- 1:07:05
would and wouldn't do in a situation
- 1:07:07
well i tell you you seen on stage
- 1:07:09
like again a lot of people i saw saying
- 1:07:11
yo he could have stopped and said
- 1:07:13
something they didn't watch the entire
- 1:07:15
stream or they didn't watch it they saw
- 1:07:16
clips and videos that went around as
- 1:07:18
someone who watched the entire
- 1:07:20
performance because it was streaming
- 1:07:22
from what he saw when he saw somebody in
- 1:07:24
the crowd [ __ ] up he stopped the show
- 1:07:27
he's like yo oh oh somebody's down right
- 1:07:29
here no everybody back back don't touch
- 1:07:32
them don't touch them security get over
- 1:07:34
there security was taking too long yo
- 1:07:37
jump the barricade get over there
- 1:07:40
if you were looking at 100 thousand
- 1:07:41
people you might not be able to tell
- 1:07:42
what's going on of course in his defense
- 1:07:44
what the one he did see seven
- 1:07:47
50 people's staff total is not enough to
- 1:07:51
handle when the performer stops the show
- 1:07:54
abruptly to say yo handle that over
- 1:07:57
there right yo so i've been on a stage
- 1:07:59
where the fight broke out and i've
- 1:08:01
stopped
- 1:08:02
you wanna if you didn't care about the
- 1:08:04
fight you care about the people missing
- 1:08:05
the show because it's a fight yeah so
- 1:08:07
you say
- 1:08:08
hey and that over there as soon as they
- 1:08:10
get to that we gonna get right back to
- 1:08:12
it hold up
- 1:08:13
sometimes
- 1:08:15
they take long they take a minute
- 1:08:18
i'll be in little tiny clubs not only
- 1:08:20
that i've been on stage with some
- 1:08:22
rappers when the fight breakout
- 1:08:24
keep the crowd distracted
- 1:08:26
don't i don't want everybody focusing on
- 1:08:28
that so i got i gotta turn up a little
- 1:08:30
bit to keep it going so that security
- 1:08:33
can handle that without everybody else
- 1:08:35
getting involved it's true right so now
- 1:08:37
we're gonna take it to this you can be
- 1:08:39
in a club dog with a thousand people
- 1:08:43
and they might have 20 security guards
- 1:08:45
cop slash whatever maybe
- 1:08:47
right that's one for every 50.
- 1:08:50
we talking about a a scenario for one
- 1:08:53
every 200 and change and it's a big ass
- 1:08:57
venue so the [ __ ] can start
- 1:08:58
some [ __ ] in the mosh pit but it's still
- 1:09:01
people guarding the door there's still
- 1:09:02
people at the gate it's still people by
- 1:09:04
the concession stands there's still
- 1:09:05
people by the register
- 1:09:07
i mean it's all spread around right
- 1:09:09
throughout the the big guy's venue
- 1:09:11
correct so when some [ __ ] happens dog
- 1:09:13
you know how hard it is to walk through
- 1:09:15
200 000 people to get to the front and
- 1:09:18
pick a body up
- 1:09:22
making it seem like it's just like they
- 1:09:24
dropped the ball which they might have
- 1:09:26
in in certain areas we still don't know
- 1:09:28
who to like be clear we don't know who
- 1:09:29
to put let's tell you something uh
- 1:09:32
on top of the little baby ambulance
- 1:09:34
right i'm not blaming look at my ears
- 1:09:36
apart from my earlier jobs right when i
- 1:09:38
was like 17 18 years old
- 1:09:41
i worked at the meadowlands as security
- 1:09:43
oh go you yeah yeah you know [ __ ] had
- 1:09:45
to get
- 1:09:46
jobs working at giants and raiders gay
- 1:09:49
giants was getting their ass what
- 1:09:52
you buy [ __ ] no no this matters
- 1:09:55
anytime everybody know raiders fans they
- 1:09:57
have a reputation with them same as
- 1:09:58
eagles fans
- 1:10:00
giants getting their ass with raiders
- 1:10:01
fans talking [ __ ] there was fights
- 1:10:02
breaking out in the crowd everywhere we
- 1:10:05
have walkie-talkies they like security
- 1:10:06
get to section 132 everybody starts
- 1:10:09
running security no no get to section
- 1:10:10
208 like you can't be everywhere at once
- 1:10:13
when the [ __ ] starts popping off like
- 1:10:14
that it's only a handful of y'all but
- 1:10:16
y'all are not prepared for the entire
- 1:10:17
crowd to be a situation
- 1:10:19
you'll be prepared for a uh you know
- 1:10:21
individual situations here right there
- 1:10:23
but when it gets to be the entire crowd
- 1:10:26
we was like oh [ __ ] what the [ __ ] do you
- 1:10:28
do now and again we just did the number
- 1:10:30
so it's one particu officer for every
- 1:10:34
240 [ __ ] mm-hmm
- 1:10:37
you you you kind of just like joker's
- 1:10:39
over here selling merch you got to have
- 1:10:41
cops over there by the emergency
- 1:10:47
i haven't left the 70 million number
- 1:10:50
i don't need no other number
- 1:10:55
yeah
- 1:10:56
well the number we need it's a hundred
- 1:10:58
million dollar a day yo the next eight
- 1:10:59
hours hundred and something million
- 1:11:00
dollars one day went down over a hundred
- 1:11:02
million over a hundred over 100 people
- 1:11:03
is what you're saying
- 1:11:05
but they might have been i'm saying i
- 1:11:07
know what humans do
- 1:11:09
when that money is at stake
- 1:11:12
i know what you might overlook mm-hmm i
- 1:11:14
know what some of you broke [ __ ]
- 1:11:15
overlooking we know what you might look
- 1:11:16
at the corner right here we're gonna cut
- 1:11:17
a corner right there when you start
- 1:11:19
talking about 150 million dollar day 120
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