Pretty Privilege
Joe Budden Podcast Episode 494, “Pretty Privilege,” released December 16, 2021. Joe kicks things off with a phone call with one of R&B's most notable voices, Tank, to discuss his recent comments on current male R&B (8:28). Next, the crew then discusses the hurdles that singers face due to the melodic style of Hip Hop being made (31:31). Also, Travis Scott offers to perform for free at Coachella (54:14), and Joe highlights a gruesome story involving a person with a mental health condition *POTENTIAL TRIGGER WARNING* (1:04:57). And finally, DaBaby gets trashed while performing at Rolling Loud (1:23:00), and MORE! Full transcript and searchable timestamps below.

In this episode
- 8:28Joe kicks things off with a phone call with one of R&B's most notable voices, Tank, to discuss his recent comm…
- 31:31Next, the crew then discusses the hurdles that singers face due to the melodic style of Hip Hop being made
- 54:14Travis Scott offers to perform for free at Coachella
- 1:04:57Joe highlights a gruesome story involving a person with a mental health condition *POTENTIAL TRIGGER WARNING*
- 1:23:00Finally, DaBaby gets trashed while performing at Rolling Loud
Joe Budden Podcast Ep. 494 Transcript
Full transcript of Pretty Privilege (1:11:15 long). Search it, or click any timestamp to jump to that moment.
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mike let me make sure my voice sounds as
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luxurious as i'm used to it sounding
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sky there will be no yelling
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this episode hear the convoys
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i'm gonna try to work on my slow talking
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on the listen back i talk really slow
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i'm gonna try to speed it up a little
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bit for time restraints
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um
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how's everybody doing i'm doing doing
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well
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i need y'all to take these voices off
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for real
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no i don't want to do that these two got
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some nerve dissing our professional pod
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versus voices
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these [ __ ] come in they go they don't
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even talk without clearing their throat
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every every sentence
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what would i think about that y'all
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don't get to talk about such
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professionals as parks and myself you
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don't you're the professional
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indigestion
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watermelon
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you think that's how my voice sound
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no we think that's what you do
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like you ate a baloney and cheese
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maybe he ain't blowing the cheese all
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right we bumped into something
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interesting we were going to start with
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ish not knowing how to put songs in his
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iphone
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but i like where we are here do you know
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how to put songs in your samsung of
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course i'm really here to pod today so
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let's go through it on a scale of one to
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ten you think you're a pod voice right
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to the where let's do for all of us
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i don't mind though yeah i don't hate
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your horse i don't like my voice i rate
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it what you want to one about your voice
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control it one yeah okay you got a one
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for you
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six for you that's his bad answer you
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hear me so arrogant he light-skinned
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he's so arrogant yo
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a six is a d man
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that's ishta for williams man
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that's easter for williams right there
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yo
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he said what about your matter i said i
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don't love my voice but i know how to
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control it i got mine pretty high i do i
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do i got mine pretty high uh ish
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why don't you not insert songs in that
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thingamajiggy
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i hate i hate uh yo young boys back
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there was laughing at you the time stamp
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killer boys started dying laughing like
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i just get apple music
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you can swing it okay
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that's all you gotta do that's it all
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right
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some of the people want me to explain
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why we uploaded to spotify last podcast
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oh do we i didn't know i didn't
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welcome to independence you can do it
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the [ __ ] you want
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you know you're not used to that they
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used to being told what they have to do
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right it's a little different
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i thought that was like the obvious
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answer but i'm a dick
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and i'm trying to not be a dick i'm
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trying to be less of a dick heading into
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42.
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why well i'm either trying to be less of
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a dick or i'm certainly trying to clear
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all the people away from me that thought
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i was too much of a dick
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reasonable listen
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no weirdness
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if i'm addicting go away
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take that some of them did um
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shut up parks
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um do i want to start with a call to
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tank
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as you wanna start starting i don't know
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y'all i'm here i'm here to talk to the
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male r b dudes today it ain't too much
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to talk about and even if it was my head
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wasn't up long enough to see it so
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i don't know what's going on out there
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in the world i kind of just make my own
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news up at this point
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i kind of just make no no no
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no
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no
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that's exactly what we will do
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i will talk to tank
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not not you okay you go ahead
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what's up with you
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i don't want you to play b-mike to the
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pod all right i think i want you to be
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like e mike
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on some of these topics okay get e on
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them i'm e on them get e on them man uh
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what am i saying what am i saying what
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am i saying call tank yeah you r b dudes
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man they've been upset
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they've been very upset
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why because people take everything out
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of context these days
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they take saying women are running [ __ ]
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as [ __ ] man man ain't [ __ ] you know what
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i'm saying it's like dog
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why does everyone take everything out of
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her applies across the board send me
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that alex
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it applies across the world what did i
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do
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i seem to have gotten us in trouble
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again
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or i seem to have gotten in trouble
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again
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something happened but people are
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peeved at me and arm beasts r b in the r
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b world r b and that's really and that
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really hurts
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[ __ ]
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but that hurts my heart my hands work
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but that hurts but that hurts my heart
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because at heart i'm r b yo
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true i'm r b that is true that's why
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when you go when the r b dudes like try
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to gang up on me it hurts me
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way more than when the rappers try to
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gang up on me you rappers i don't care
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[ __ ] we all can cat hat bat
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if we all take our time with that we'll
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put something clever in between but can
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you hit a high e and that's what we'll
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do but in r b yo come on yo nah yo cause
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you got to think about that while you're
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with your girl
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now you throw lucky day on and [ __ ]
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you realize the [ __ ] got an attitude
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with you about some things
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and that hit's a little different
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did you
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all right man no that's not the right
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one where's the writer right there right
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i always i never put in there i ain't no
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[ __ ] respond no no no no no
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[ __ ] here
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listen to the pond yo you know sometimes
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to hear things they don't like
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so i all i think i said was that the
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women are kicking the guy's asses yeah
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i triple down in that
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i quadruple down in that i don't see how
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that's not even it's like that's obvious
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it's not even like a matter of
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discussion i didn't see where the debate
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was i thought i said something like the
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[ __ ] sky is blue though neil degrasse
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would argue it isn't
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and be right
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well if you look at this guy's last
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sky's not blue it's no color it's
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extracting i didn't want to hear that
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i love you neal that's my guy but back
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to this r b [ __ ]
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where was the debate there's no debate
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but here's the debate
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because here comes there's bad you say
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there comes tank we picked up all the
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male r b singers that are dope they're
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just not we didn't name them
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but that wasn't what we was trying to do
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right there right and here comes
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tank
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was taking it yeah let me let the
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audience know that tank is one of the
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people that i can't say nothing bad
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about
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i cannot
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and will not and would not
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his voice is too much of an instrument
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his pen is too much of an instrument
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he's been a part of too many classics
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his voice still today is classical
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tank is the man yo anna's your friend
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tank is my man if there were such a
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thing as industry friend tank is my guy
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even if he don't know how high regard i
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hold him in
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i've had success with tank on a record
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i can't say nothing bad about tank so
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when he responded to me didn't see he
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didn't say nothing bad he addressed me
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he just did it in the r b crusader type
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of way which was to say yo joe oh i'll
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play it i'll play it so i'm not at word
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of mouth here oh he went on the gram and
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gave you some bars
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joe here we go
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joseph
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don't do this
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don't you do my friend my brother don't
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you do this
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don't you shut up right here
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the new generation of male r b artist is
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trash don't you do that
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still just just give them their flowers
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he's saying that to me see tank i'm
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trying to say
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he might not
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don't do that don't say that veto is
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true don't do this
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brothers is dope
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no you changed them they're all people
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that you get them having their moment
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and that's they're just getting their
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ass kicked
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outcomes every last one of them they're
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gonna have a moment joe joseph all right
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r b money
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tank
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tank
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do i have tanks phone number man i'm
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just not you know
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you called him before
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is this thing on
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no [ __ ] gonna stop playing with my
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name
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oh yeah i haven't spoken to tank in a
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little while
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if he doesn't answer i'm gonna send a
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text we're gonna get this call out the
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way
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hello
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hi this is joe budden from the joe
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budden podcast calling looking looking
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for tank
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i'm looking for a gentleman named tank
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hello
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how you doing my brother
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come on man i'm always good always good
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good i'm glad to hear that all right you
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ready to get to it man why you why why
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you said that to me man
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what did i say you told me
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not to call the r b dudes trash which i
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didn't i just said that they was getting
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their ass kicked which
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you screamed the word trash in in joe
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budden fashion you it was it was it was
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loud it was boisterous that sounds like
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it was mean
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well
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for 2022
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clarification and transparency is
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important tank i do a podcast for seven
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years i started radio in 2003. sometimes
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for dramatic purposes
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we'll emphasize something that maybe
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shouldn't be emphasized
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oh you're the king huh
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we'll throw a little sauce on something
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that shouldn't be thrown on but listen
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let me tell you
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r b is closer to my heart than hip hop
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it is it is
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it is i'm black i started in the church
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i thought it was like a fact
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that these guys were getting their ass
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kicked out there and in the in the
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spirit of competitive nature because
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that's what music is
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at what point do you have to look at
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your your peers and say
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i'm getting my ass kicked out here
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because of you i'm dedicating my whole
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podcast to male r b
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well here's the here's the there's the
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science though so you i mean you know
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the you know the science the industry
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science of it all right and so once your
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thing catches or once a thing becomes a
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thing or
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or or a fad or a texture that's
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it's working for the moment that's
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what's fed and that's what super served
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right so we got her we got sizzle we got
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kelani um
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we got jasmine we got you know uh we got
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ari we got these ladies who are having
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who are having such a dope moment but
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their texture their sonic everything
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about what they're doing right now it's
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the thing
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right so it's going to be super served
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and they're going to have that run it's
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that doesn't mean they aren't doing good
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[ __ ] no y'all no the guys are doing good
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[ __ ] just doing horribly when we start
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looking at what the women are doing if
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you compare the numbers no no no
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wait tank tank tank
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this is me i'm never having a numbers
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talk i don't care what the numbers are
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saying i'm talking about art i'm talking
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artistically the women are providing
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classics and have been for damn near a
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decade we could speak from the newest
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you said from
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fighting classics yes
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more so than men yes
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yes
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yes classics classics
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her damage is a classic
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her damage is out of this world so we
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can't we can't we can't use that that's
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a that's unfair oh that's out of this
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world all right okay all right so i
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can't do that because classic we need to
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have some time and then uh yes
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sailing souls is classic the mixtape us
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versus them it's classic controls it's
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stuck around control classic classic
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snow elements debut
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is impeccable
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now when we start talking about men i'm
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a consumer and i love r b and i spend my
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money on it i don't stream that [ __ ] so
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i i feel like i can hold these [ __ ]
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feet to the fire to say yo dawg
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what we doing
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when do we get to compete
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so listening to you because you're the
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man wait let me land let me land let me
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land listening to you tank cause you the
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man you know how i feel about you [ __ ]
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you the man
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i listened to you and went back and said
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hey maybe i'm wrong i went to listen to
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today's r b
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from men i went to listen to today's r b
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from men this decade
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and then i went and listened to every
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decade of male r b starting from the 50s
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you don't want me to tell you what i
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come up with because you'll really get
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mad at me
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did you land because i feel like you
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landed right now i'm done
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i'm done i'm done
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joe here's here's here's
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here's the tough part about
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male r b right and why it's had to
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evolve in the way that it has evolved
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you don't have a bunch of women
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in the rap world
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doing melody
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and blurring the lines between what is r
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and b
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what is trap soul
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what is hip-hop
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yo this guy is good that's a great point
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these lines for male r b are so blurred
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listen let me tell you some truth i
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listen to future and young thug for new
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melodies and syncopation i listen to the
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migos
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for new wave syncopation and melodies
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and dynamics
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but why do all male artists seem to do
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that though
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we have to compete
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right that space right there the melodic
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space is owned by rappers
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and so if we don't find a way to infuse
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who we are into that dynamic we are
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going to die he's right he's a thousand
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percent he's right
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i don't know that he's right he's right
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he's right he's he's he's dumb
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women still have like like the coldest
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female rappers right now
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you're cardi your nikki you're they rap
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they rap they run yeah they're ready the
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chorus is wrapped there's no melodic
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nothing yeah no they're not they're not
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stepping on our toes every hot hip-hop
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artist right now is all melody and some
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i'm sensitive
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some of them are sensitive now some of
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these are went there with their lady
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records were they talking about doing
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stuff to him that only r b guys should
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be able to do
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now i'ma allow him to be right no
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because i could say doger cat's name and
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end what he's saying
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i could say
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i could mention i could mention the city
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girls when you talk about uh that pacing
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and that tone the same way you speak
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about amigos not to the same degree but
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but they're they're playing like they're
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not stepping on women's toes but i'm
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gonna argue because you're right your
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point is correct men have men
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seem to have to but that's why i won't
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argue your point because in my r b point
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let's exclude those men
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let's exclude bryson tiller
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let's exclude party next door black
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let's exclude black
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why do we have to exclude them though
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because because of your point because
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they have to play in an arena that the
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women do not so you're right about that
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that that is the evidence
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but he's saying even he says that's the
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evolution of male 1 evolution of r b
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that's that's the solution of male r
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but then why is it not the evolution for
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women
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like i said they don't
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they don't have to they don't have to
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dance
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you know i'm saying in in in spaces that
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they don't belong like women are still
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allowed to be sensitive women are still
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allowed to be vulnerable and they're
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allowed to sing their faces off name the
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last hit record from a man from a male r
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b uh guy that was able to sing his face
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off like full out sing like go crazy
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can't even think of one yeah because i
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can't think of ten of the guys that can
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sing their face off at a live show with
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a mic in front of their faces
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they can but they shy away from the
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moment because it's just not popular so
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then we gotta pull within ourselves
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yo listen
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i was at i was at r b live that [ __ ]
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eric knicks used to throw in the city
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when the dream came there and performed
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his hits and luke james came there and
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performed nothing but a voice and it
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worked luke james is still there leon
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bridges is still there
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we have acts with voices that can sing
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but if male r b is not pulling that out
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because we're trying to [ __ ] uh
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appeal to the kids and the streaming and
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all this other [ __ ] then the playing
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field will never be even tank then the
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girl the girls will be playing at an
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advantage that the men don't tank have
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you heard cleo souls projects
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cleo so no
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dude do yourself a favor
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do me a solid
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i'm talking about somebody that may not
- 17:53
be so mainstream may not be so
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commercial but she ain't here to play
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these little kitty mainstream kiddie
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games
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i'm here to do the art yes watch watch
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these beats
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watch these beats watch my voice the
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arrangement the song writing she is
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incredible yeah that's what i mean
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i don't i don't listen i don't disagree
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with you but i'm still going to go back
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to to to the element of competition
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right now where
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we are still in competition with rappers
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who are who are who are
- 18:25
who are dominating our space he's right
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like like and then at the end of the day
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like these cats want to eat they're not
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all me where they built a 20-year
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foundation and they got you know cult
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following and fans and all these things
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they're brand new in the space trying to
- 18:41
figure out number one not just be be
- 18:43
artistic but also be famous and also be
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successful
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so so when these guys are signed to
- 18:50
major record labels and getting these
- 18:52
deals and all that things that are run
- 18:54
by lawyers and lawyers only think only
- 18:56
no bottom lines
- 18:58
some of the artists sacrifice because
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they're like y'all got to fit in right
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here on this hot 100 or we not gonna
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make it how many 23 year olds want to be
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played on r b or urban ac radio none of
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them they want to be popping
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he's right valid he's a hunter
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well i do think that someone could come
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out and kill it like a true vocalist
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come out and kill him you know who could
- 19:19
you know who could sam smith could do it
- 19:22
i'll let him do it all day adele could
- 19:24
do it all day yeah absolutely he didn't
- 19:26
do it again and sharon can do well i'm
- 19:28
just saying that ed sheeran can do it
- 19:29
that's true
- 19:30
all day he's right posty
- 19:33
and it goes straight to power rotation
- 19:35
they don't have to start uh let's wait
- 19:38
till your streaming numbers get up oh
- 19:40
let's start it over here at at these
- 19:42
stations with small bandwidth oh let's
- 19:44
wait to the to the
- 19:46
let's go viral first and then they don't
- 19:48
do none of that
- 19:49
tank they go after their art like
- 19:53
he's right you know like we're supposed
- 19:54
to like like the infrastructure used to
- 19:56
go after hours the infrastructure don't
- 19:58
go after the male r b art no more the
- 20:01
love of male r b black male r b is under
- 20:05
attack whether you notice that or not
- 20:07
and that's not just in music that's an
- 20:09
entertainment overall oh he just went
- 20:11
home
- 20:17
can you wait wait because that's too
- 20:18
important of a point for me to skip past
- 20:21
the male male r b is under attack
- 20:23
whether you see it or not your eyes
- 20:25
would view it differently because you're
- 20:26
a [ __ ] go to this [ __ ] what do you
- 20:29
see
- 20:30
well i see that our our our
- 20:33
opportunities are just not the same
- 20:34
decreasing you know what i mean when it
- 20:35
comes to when it comes to male r b when
- 20:38
it comes to us singing our love songs
- 20:40
and our songs of sensuality our songs
- 20:42
are celebrating our women the playing
- 20:44
field is not the same the starting point
- 20:46
is not the same like you you you take
- 20:48
this you take this to a meaningful
- 20:50
record station you know what i mean that
- 20:52
that plays all of this other music and
- 20:55
the first thing they're going to say is
- 20:56
well what are the streams um what does
- 20:58
the instagram look like what is the what
- 21:00
is all these what's the story before i
- 21:02
play this record like it's not even
- 21:04
about the traditional process and so now
- 21:07
you got kids who have to try and jump
- 21:09
start
- 21:10
love love songs
- 21:12
you don't understand on their own
- 21:18
let me show love to r b radio and urban
- 21:20
ac radio because that's that's my house
- 21:22
right but we're talking about we're
- 21:25
talking about um
- 21:27
uh
- 21:28
an array of stations that take six
- 21:30
months to build a record
- 21:32
[Music]
- 21:33
and and by the time you put that album
- 21:36
out after that six months of trying to
- 21:38
sell one record who's gonna buy an album
- 21:39
based on one record
- 21:41
no and then you gotta and then you gotta
- 21:43
start all
- 21:44
over again
- 21:46
with the next record another four to six
- 21:48
months where these guys on the other
- 21:50
side of it guess what if that record is
- 21:52
popping we top 40 in three weeks oh it's
- 21:54
responding on tick tock it's responding
- 21:56
here more avenues to even play that
- 21:58
record the people the branding
- 22:00
they're not bro do you know how many
- 22:02
people
- 22:03
you know how many branding opportunities
- 22:05
i do not get and i've been doing this
- 22:07
but they would rather they would rather
- 22:08
brand a murderer a drug dealer or or
- 22:11
somebody who just would beat death rope
- 22:13
murder beast instead of promoting my
- 22:15
love
- 22:16
he's borrowing this up
- 22:18
yo
- 22:19
he killing this [ __ ]
- 22:21
like it's under a time tank they're
- 22:23
gonna say that you old and that's why
- 22:25
they'll go with a young murderer no
- 22:27
right that's no they're not going to say
- 22:29
that they're not going to say that well
- 22:30
he knows
- 22:31
he's not a young man no they're going to
- 22:32
go they're going to go
- 22:35
what's happening with what the people
- 22:37
are buying what the people are
- 22:40
used to be a young man's game too
- 22:42
absolutely
- 22:43
absolutely yeah you mean
- 22:46
you youth is not even it's it's not it
- 22:48
doesn't matter anymore that's not even
- 22:50
the same the point like we can think of
- 22:52
many rappers that are over 50 that are
- 22:54
that are cracking
- 22:55
but let me matter let me ask you no you
- 22:57
don't you think none of that changes
- 22:59
with the resurgence not the resurgence
- 23:01
but the dominance of verses
- 23:03
where catalogs might become a little
- 23:05
more important and a younger generation
- 23:07
might learn a little bit or have more
- 23:09
appreciation for some of the older acts
- 23:11
they used to announce that the streaming
- 23:13
went up after every verses right so i
- 23:15
mean it had some impact
- 23:17
well here here's here's where it would
- 23:20
here's where it would hold real value
- 23:22
right if after if after reverses
- 23:26
if after an uh versus with swv
- 23:29
and an escape a record company saw the
- 23:32
value in in in r b girls groups and we
- 23:35
and and five five to ten of them got
- 23:37
signed didn't happen you know what i'm
- 23:39
saying so
- 23:41
or or from mel r b standpoint it was
- 23:43
like oh we see the value in that male r
- 23:45
b when keith sweat and and bobby brown
- 23:47
did the thing let's sign up about 20 of
- 23:49
them didn't happen let's push this like
- 23:51
versus is mainstream for those people
- 23:54
with a catalog
- 23:55
those people who've done those people
- 23:57
who have value are foundational artists
- 24:00
to what it is that we do it helps them
- 24:02
it don't help the overall
- 24:05
speaking of catalog i have to ask you
- 24:07
this while i have you
- 24:09
because when the whole black ground
- 24:10
thing came about i was conflicted still
- 24:12
i still buy music
- 24:14
i want artists to get their money i was
- 24:16
there for the whole debacle at first and
- 24:18
then you were the only black round act
- 24:20
that was like actually promoting the
- 24:22
re-release rest in peacealia of course
- 24:24
are you supportive of the release or not
- 24:26
because i didn't buy your [ __ ] cause i
- 24:28
wasn't sure
- 24:30
i'm a thousand percent
- 24:32
supportive of the release okay and
- 24:36
that's okay and
- 24:37
the reason the reason i have to be
- 24:40
is because
- 24:41
i can is two ways of looking at this
- 24:44
right
- 24:44
i can be mad at the 10 plus years that i
- 24:47
lost revenue
- 24:48
or i can look forward to the 10 plus
- 24:50
years to where i can generate revenue
- 24:53
and so i choose the latter it is what it
- 24:56
is because in my mind i had already
- 24:58
moved on without that catalog i was like
- 25:00
i'm gonna make bigger and better songs
- 25:01
it is what it is
- 25:03
but
- 25:04
now that it's out
- 25:05
this is money i didn't i didn't count on
- 25:07
i didn't think this was gonna ever
- 25:08
happen and i definitely wasn't gonna try
- 25:10
to sing 40 songs that i sang in my 20s
- 25:13
with this 40 year old throat i was not
- 25:15
gonna do it thank god no way thank you
- 25:17
tank thank you
- 25:19
thank you so
- 25:20
i i i counted it a blessing you know
- 25:22
what i'm saying like this guy is so holy
- 25:24
it's the good with the bad no that's a
- 25:25
dog
- 25:29
no no this guy's good yeah listen it's
- 25:30
gonna survive this long without being
- 25:32
good now this guy's good all right my
- 25:33
last question man
- 25:34
and not even a question
- 25:36
i still get hype when i see you and
- 25:38
tyrese like each other's instagram posts
- 25:41
i do
- 25:44
hello
- 25:45
[Laughter]
- 25:47
i'm waiting for you to land
- 25:49
i also i also think
- 25:51
that that tgt album
- 25:54
is
- 25:55
top 5 10 r b album to release last
- 25:58
decade
- 25:59
i don't know you all really know how
- 26:01
amazing that project was or y'all
- 26:03
wouldn't be doing this frivolous
- 26:04
[ __ ] but i'm on my business
- 26:06
is anybody going to be the bigger person
- 26:08
at some point for the greatest sake of
- 26:10
music or nah
- 26:11
let me tell you right now come on come
- 26:14
on right now you know tyree's just wild
- 26:16
out sometimes don't do that
- 26:18
no no no no no no that's my man
- 26:20
you know what i'm good at i'm good at
- 26:22
accepting people for who they are
- 26:25
[Music]
- 26:26
you know
- 26:28
y'all don't do that
- 26:30
forgave him
- 26:31
and my brother is my brother thank you
- 26:33
right or wrong
- 26:34
brother it's my brother that's
- 26:36
it you know say i go to the bathroom i
- 26:39
go to war with him so
- 26:41
think about this
- 26:42
if you see if you see me and tyrese
- 26:45
y'all ain't really seeing us like
- 26:46
kicking it together and and but you see
- 26:48
like in the pictures like there's
- 26:50
there's more to that you understand of
- 26:52
me and ty like people don't realize like
- 26:54
that's my brother like we damn to talk
- 26:55
every week every
- 26:57
couple days so
- 26:58
so if you see us doing that who's
- 27:00
missing tank
- 27:02
tell us where he was going
- 27:04
well first of
- 27:20
i bet you i can find genuine right now
- 27:23
i can find him tomorrow this weekend
- 27:25
tank i know the baddest [ __ ] in new
- 27:27
york
- 27:29
what are you talking about why y'all
- 27:31
having a hard time
- 27:45
i know how to get a [ __ ]
- 27:53
all right great all right that's good
- 27:55
that's good to know but yeah no all
- 27:56
right that's that's all i had because
- 27:58
that tgt album
- 28:00
oh man i still i still i still do it i
- 28:02
still don't listen one of the one of the
- 28:04
most grueling processes i've ever been
- 28:06
through making an album but one of the
- 28:08
coldest albums r b albums ever in my
- 28:10
opinion no i'm with you i'm with you
- 28:12
y'all went crazy which is why y'all got
- 28:15
me y'all knew genuine was gonna be a
- 28:16
problem when he was high up there good
- 28:18
morning no no no no [ __ ] here's here's
- 28:20
what you're here's what genuine is right
- 28:23
let's have a little bit of drink before
- 28:24
we go to good morning america
- 28:27
stop it
- 28:28
i'm serious no here's what genuine is
- 28:31
let me tell you what genuine is genuine
- 28:33
is the least problematic person i've
- 28:35
ever met in this industry whatever and
- 28:38
genuine is at a point in his life where
- 28:41
stress
- 28:43
doesn't register for him and if it looks
- 28:46
like stress he's so well off his money
- 28:49
good his land is good his kids are good
- 28:53
he don't need the stress he know bernice
- 28:56
so huh
- 28:58
does he know a young lady by the name of
- 29:00
bernice burgos
- 29:08
all right now she just walked into a
- 29:09
wall
- 29:10
now
- 29:14
all right all right i just wanted to
- 29:15
know that the potential was there for a
- 29:17
project if need be if i got to call
- 29:19
kaiser myself i'm going to get this done
- 29:21
god dammit
- 29:22
i think it's needed i think it's
- 29:23
necessary me too me too i think 2022
- 29:26
there should be a summertime teacher
- 29:28
that's just me tyler he's waiting for
- 29:29
the rock to do the next little [ __ ] the
- 29:31
rock game
- 29:34
tyrese is going to surprise you
- 29:36
tyrese is going to surprise you
- 29:41
yo you know what i'm calling him in an
- 29:43
hour
- 29:45
tank i appreciate you i love you of
- 29:47
course uh and i wish you nothing but the
- 29:49
best thing
- 29:50
thank you my brother
- 29:52
okay that was fantastic fan he's
- 29:55
a [ __ ] hold up man yeah get a [ __ ]
- 29:57
some some air horns some drums
- 30:00
shots give him a pot
- 30:04
he did that well observation number one
- 30:06
it's painfully obvious the tank needs a
- 30:07
podcast word
- 30:09
they need a tgt pod or something he
- 30:11
could talk i wish all you guys that
- 30:13
weren't good at podcasting would stop
- 30:15
making them so we could find the jewels
- 30:17
like tank and then staples and get them
- 30:19
to really do one without feeling like
- 30:20
it's oversaturated in the market
- 30:23
bars he smoked that [ __ ] yo he went
- 30:25
crazy but he's passionate about r b
- 30:28
but you know
- 30:29
but wait let's highlight that i want to
- 30:30
skip over that because that be the
- 30:32
passion that you can hear and people is
- 30:34
missing nowadays like if you listen to
- 30:36
me
- 30:36
yeah i'm a lunatic but you can hear
- 30:39
passion from music right and that feels
- 30:41
good right
- 30:42
when you speak to tank you can hear that
- 30:45
when you speak the prem
- 30:47
you can hear like right
- 30:49
that just feels good yo now go ahead no
- 30:52
i was just gonna say i'm sure all
- 30:54
musicians have some level of passion i
- 30:56
disagree dog this [ __ ] well he said
- 30:59
musicians ice
- 31:01
okay he said music musicians
- 31:09
he broke the [ __ ] down though in
- 31:11
layman's terms where you can understand
- 31:14
what he's saying
- 31:15
right you can ingest it and you can
- 31:18
really see his point
- 31:20
i never would have never thought tank on
- 31:22
instagram man because that's weird just
- 31:24
telling me killed that [ __ ] man
- 31:26
tell him he went crazy really i never
- 31:29
looked because that was a very obvious
- 31:30
point that was right on front street
- 31:32
yeah you're cool who thinks about that
- 31:34
yeah you could look
- 31:36
unless you're super passionate about r b
- 31:38
and you and the competitive you got to
- 31:39
compete now you got to compete with
- 31:41
future and young thug amigos right
- 31:44
you don't have time to look at what snow
- 31:46
and her is doing think about that though
- 31:48
you talking about the biggest
- 31:50
rap okay
- 31:52
i'll take that out there i'll take an l
- 31:54
that's who i gotta compete with i'll
- 31:55
take it if i'm if i'm a r b singer
- 31:57
coming in the game right now my thing
- 31:58
though is i think that's what i think
- 32:00
i think it just takes one one person to
- 32:02
make it cool again similar to how
- 32:04
griselda made boom bap cool again in rat
- 32:07
i think it just takes one person to go
- 32:08
on the ledge and be like nah i'm
- 32:09
interested wait wait and parks his point
- 32:12
is why i feel like i don't take a l with
- 32:15
tank
- 32:16
tank brings up hold up let me just land
- 32:18
real quick tank brings up
- 32:20
an amazing point that has all the
- 32:23
validity in the world about having to
- 32:24
compete with tank i mean our future and
- 32:26
young thug and just the newer acts right
- 32:30
but on the flip side when i talk about
- 32:32
the ladies kicking ass it's not just
- 32:34
artistically because if you're an artist
- 32:36
let me get off a musician land and get
- 32:38
on the artist land now if you're an
- 32:39
artist you got to figure out how your
- 32:41
image connects with your audience right
- 32:43
true however that is you got to figure
- 32:45
out your style of dress
- 32:47
your style of being seen your style
- 32:50
interview
- 32:51
your style of hey do you have a cool
- 32:53
little hashtag for your for your hive
- 32:56
out there like there's a new way of
- 32:57
doing things that i think me
- 33:00
i think the ladies when you look at it
- 33:03
in a hole in totality they have figured
- 33:06
it out or
- 33:08
we are in that moment where
- 33:11
i think it's
- 33:12
the labels that are behind the ladies
- 33:14
the marketing departments and all that
- 33:16
are no more into them i'm sorry all
- 33:18
right i'm not gonna step on you i
- 33:20
counter that with i hate to be the
- 33:22
bearer of bad news the labels never
- 33:24
wanted the women to win
- 33:26
i don't want to tell you all that cause
- 33:28
y'all gonna think it's coming from me
- 33:29
and it's not the labels never wanted the
- 33:32
women to win talk to any of the women
- 33:34
which is fine meg had to go burn down
- 33:36
houston before they paid her attention
- 33:38
cardi will tell you the label didn't
- 33:39
believe in her the girls are expensive
- 33:41
yeah the girls are a headache
- 33:44
the girls are late
- 33:46
the labels didn't want to put the women
- 33:48
in the forefront that's why we've had x
- 33:49
amount of years in music without the
- 33:51
women being at the forefront they took
- 33:52
that [ __ ] by the bull horn yeah but you
- 33:54
know what happened um
- 33:55
that's the fact though
- 33:57
yeah but the label don't want you to win
- 33:59
until you're all of the women that are
- 34:00
prepared for you to win
- 34:02
right now it's profitable for him
- 34:05
but you're telling me that the sky is
- 34:06
blue all you got to do is show a label
- 34:08
that something's profitable and they're
- 34:09
going to get people to go there yes hey
- 34:11
nelly had people go to st louis to find
- 34:13
the next hymn yeah all you got to do is
- 34:16
get hot where you at the labels is
- 34:17
follow the leader so correct what you're
- 34:19
saying is a fact what i'm saying is the
- 34:22
women all of the women that are popping
- 34:24
did it themselves but it's a difference
- 34:26
even if even at the different levels of
- 34:28
popping
- 34:29
from the doges to the flow millies
- 34:32
tank was talking about her i would have
- 34:34
loved us to talk about gabby wilson
- 34:37
because that the music was good then she
- 34:40
had to go figure out a rebrand
- 34:42
she had to go figure out yo my image
- 34:44
something's not connecting tanaji had to
- 34:46
do it seven had to do it i just watched
- 34:48
seven struggle for years and she caught
- 34:51
one she had to figure it out
- 34:52
so why why am i not holding the men to
- 34:54
the same thing
- 34:56
no you [ __ ] can't just keep putting
- 34:57
out the same regurgitated computerized
- 35:00
[ __ ] and telling me that you battling
- 35:01
with future [ __ ] future's future right
- 35:04
future is
- 35:05
x amount of the marketplace whenever he
- 35:08
drops
- 35:09
he's in that we're going straight to pop
- 35:12
when it drops
- 35:13
i'm too sexy didn't have to didn't have
- 35:15
to build
- 35:18
there's a reason that the a [ __ ] are
- 35:19
working with the a [ __ ] that's what
- 35:21
he's saying
- 35:22
i know but as a dude what he's saying is
- 35:24
all in response to me saying yo the
- 35:27
girls are kicking ass now he's actually
- 35:29
he's 100 correct in what he's saying but
- 35:31
that don't change what i'm saying it
- 35:33
does change because what you're saying
- 35:36
is for the dude the single dude he's
- 35:39
faced with more the singer dude not face
- 35:41
woman we're talking about the musician
- 35:42
the singer dude who loves to sing he
- 35:46
loves to write loves to do all of that
- 35:48
he's passionate about all of this [ __ ]
- 35:49
fam for dude the pop and this is what he
- 35:52
brought up with ed sharon and sam smith
- 35:55
it's more about it's more it's ten times
- 35:57
more than that on the black side well he
- 36:00
named let me finish let me finish you
- 36:02
talked about outfits you talked about
- 36:04
all that [ __ ] when you're a white boy
- 36:06
that they could come up there with a
- 36:07
wrinkled t-shirt and get busy
- 36:09
artistically ish and they're going to be
- 36:11
accepted you right
- 36:12
and if we include race
- 36:15
we'll always be right and for 2022 i
- 36:19
want to be a little less racy no no i
- 36:21
spent the whole last year being racy
- 36:22
let's just let me talk for a second
- 36:24
yes those people get the
- 36:27
post ed sharon adele sam smith there's
- 36:30
some names i've left off
- 36:33
because they should be left off like
- 36:35
chris brown shouldn't be mentioned
- 36:37
chris morales should never be mentioned
- 36:40
chris brown popped up in o3 dawg
- 36:42
heavyweights around
- 36:44
had to sell records labels was really
- 36:46
something had to transition between
- 36:48
majors figuring out what it does what it
- 36:50
was came out on top be the case
- 36:53
[ __ ] had the most turbulent career in
- 36:55
front of your eyes too talented you
- 36:56
can't stop it
- 36:58
you can't stop a talent like that oh
- 37:00
y'all hate me i'm gonna go graffiti now
- 37:03
it's 20 years ago for a year i'm gonna
- 37:04
go dan no but he's here still no no what
- 37:06
i'm talking about is but even his even
- 37:08
his music he's here still changes his
- 37:10
music but he's playing music from then
- 37:12
tonight i don't even know he ain't for
- 37:13
play play i don't talk about it no he's
- 37:15
not so i want to make that i want to
- 37:16
make that known when we talk about male
- 37:18
r b i just want to make it known that
- 37:20
the male r b dude is the name for play
- 37:22
play your name's not even to be
- 37:23
mentioned in this because the crux of my
- 37:25
argument is the newer
- 37:28
women acts
- 37:29
artistically are putting it together in
- 37:32
a way that the newer male acts are not
- 37:35
tank's point is valid
- 37:37
my point is valid biggest point and i
- 37:38
love all the music so i don't want it to
- 37:40
make it seem like i'm [ __ ] on anyone
- 37:42
i want r b to thrive i want to hold
- 37:44
y'all to the fire
- 37:45
i want to search for music on a friday
- 37:47
and it's right there yeah we missing
- 37:49
some of his points his major point was
- 37:51
women are allowed to be vulnerable women
- 37:53
are allowed to be sexy women are allowed
- 37:55
to be women the dudes today they don't
- 37:58
make r b how or write songs how they did
- 38:01
i didn't want to argue with him part of
- 38:04
why future
- 38:05
is future
- 38:06
is because of his ability to be
- 38:08
vulnerable in r b
- 38:10
i agree so if the male r b acts want to
- 38:12
come on talking about popping pills and
- 38:16
pardon me but whatever aggressive [ __ ]
- 38:18
they talk about i don't know hey mark
- 38:19
that
- 38:20
then
- 38:22
so be it but you as an artist when you
- 38:24
sit down with a pen and a paper or in
- 38:25
front of a mic or in the studio you have
- 38:27
the ability to write about anything you
- 38:29
want i know but now you gotta go sell it
- 38:31
i was just getting ready to sit now you
- 38:32
gotta go sell it wait wait wait wait
- 38:34
wait joe and now you gotta get somebody
- 38:35
to stand behind what you're writing
- 38:38
and in this climate [ __ ] don't wanna
- 38:39
hear that soft [ __ ] no
- 38:41
and it might be a minority group that
- 38:43
does wanna hear it right marketable
- 38:46
when you're talking about money you got
- 38:47
to feed your family you got to feed your
- 38:49
kids and he said that
- 38:50
now you got to sell it [ __ ] don't want
- 38:52
to hear it when you take it to the label
- 38:53
they want to know if you got a little
- 38:55
baby on it or they were like he said all
- 38:57
right that's cool the record is alright
- 38:58
what's your following look like yeah are
- 38:59
you viral are you this yeah we're here
- 39:02
yo this is the greatest podcast in the
- 39:04
world let me tell you a large part of
- 39:06
what separates artists that don't have
- 39:09
nothing to do with music
- 39:12
willingness and ability to sacrifice
- 39:15
that's not talked about enough that it's
- 39:17
not
- 39:17
so as i watch all of these music docs
- 39:21
from back to the 50s
- 39:23
before they talk about the hits that
- 39:25
took off
- 39:27
they talk about the struggle
- 39:28
and the ability to sacrifice and making
- 39:31
a tough decision [ __ ] this ain't even a
- 39:33
race thing they did it that in the kenny
- 39:35
g dark too
- 39:36
that's true if you are an artist you
- 39:39
have to learn
- 39:40
when it's time to buckle your belt and
- 39:42
not eat and sleep on your man's floor
- 39:44
for a little bit versus oh we on now
- 39:47
we on now i agree i remember going back
- 39:49
to the hood when the label was saying
- 39:51
all right fine find a record that that
- 39:53
works at radio i was 20
- 39:58
from jersey city
- 40:00
what the [ __ ] do i know about what will
- 40:02
work on a radio i just learned how to
- 40:04
make a record
- 40:05
like what are y'all talking about right
- 40:07
now
- 40:08
so it's just some people that
- 40:10
i don't even remember why i brought that
- 40:11
up because my brain is all over it
- 40:12
because i said that now the young kids
- 40:16
when you face with two things and most
- 40:18
people it's easier said than done right
- 40:21
most people what is like water you're
- 40:22
gonna take the path for least resistance
- 40:24
so yeah you could thug it out and you
- 40:26
could starve not knowing if you ever
- 40:28
gonna pop but when this label tells you
- 40:30
go do x y and z because it's gonna sell
- 40:32
for them [ __ ] you 20 years old
- 40:34
you're gonna go do x y and z when you as
- 40:36
a 20 year old rapper if they would have
- 40:38
laid out a floor plan for you to go do x
- 40:40
y and z you would have did that and then
- 40:44
let me reply to that they laid out a
- 40:46
floor plan it was just wrong because if
- 40:48
you listen to the label people it's
- 40:50
going to always be wrong the answer
- 40:52
comes from the artist always and we
- 40:53
inject it into the game and the game
- 40:55
copies it mimics it puts generations
- 40:58
so no the template was yo go to the club
- 41:00
surround yourself with [ __ ] stand on
- 41:02
the couch get you an upbeat up tempo
- 41:04
record that will play at 1am 2am in the
- 41:06
club that was the template
- 41:08
that was wrong i'm not disagreeing but
- 41:11
they control the money hey wait wait
- 41:13
wait hold up stupid ass me i'm not a
- 41:15
street [ __ ] i'm not a drug dealer i'm
- 41:17
not a gang member in 2001. i'm on the
- 41:20
internet hey if y'all telling me to go
- 41:22
look at what's hot i don't know what's
- 41:24
hot
- 41:24
i'm not outside i'm an inside baby y'all
- 41:27
didn't ask me that when you sign me i
- 41:29
like to be indoors
- 41:30
an introvert
- 41:32
so now i to go look online
- 41:34
oh [ __ ] is mad [ __ ] out there online
- 41:36
let me come tell y'all
- 41:37
they dismissed that for 10 years we
- 41:39
don't need to harp on it but they was
- 41:41
late the industry's gonna always be late
- 41:43
if you look at these docks they're gonna
- 41:44
always be late they're gonna wait for
- 41:45
one of us to figure it out
- 41:47
and then they're just going to insert it
- 41:48
but the problem is with the younger
- 41:51
younger artists you can't figure it out
- 41:52
you can't be held with them
- 41:55
as a younger artist today i don't need
- 41:57
to figure it out because instagram is
- 41:58
going to pay me for uploading [ __ ]
- 42:00
twitter is going to pay me for uploading
- 42:01
[ __ ] and youtube is going to pay me for
- 42:03
uploading these are things that did not
- 42:05
exist when i came in
- 42:07
so it makes it a little easier to strap
- 42:09
in your belt if i got five that on a low
- 42:12
scale
- 42:14
five grand a month coming in
- 42:17
you good with man
- 42:18
that's the lowest that's the lowest
- 42:20
scale if you building what if you got a
- 42:23
couple i'm talking entry level [ __ ]
- 42:24
let's let's lower it a little bit three
- 42:26
grand a month to sit home you know
- 42:29
blessed i feel that we come in here and
- 42:30
do this podcast twice a week
- 42:34
two times yo what it says to me is with
- 42:37
proper planning execution and by design
- 42:40
you can set your life up in a way
- 42:42
where you make the most out of your time
- 42:45
i think that a lot of these newer acts
- 42:48
are seeing that and doing it which is
- 42:51
why we have young dolph saying yo they
- 42:52
offered me 50 mil i'm cool
- 42:55
that's why we got some of these other
- 42:56
that's why you got me the russians
- 42:58
they offered me 30 mil but no listen to
- 43:01
the sentence from me from [ __ ]
- 43:03
spanish harlem in a project listen
- 43:05
listen to any russ interview he gives
- 43:07
you a blueprint every time you give a
- 43:08
mic in front of him
- 43:10
you know i'm saying he was just on the
- 43:10
breakfast club with charlemagne talking
- 43:12
about the blueprint every time he opens
- 43:14
his mouth he talks about it
- 43:16
and he talks about how the industry
- 43:17
won't put a light on him because why
- 43:19
would you want to promote such knowledge
- 43:20
you wouldn't right you wouldn't want to
- 43:22
promote that we wanted to rob you we
- 43:24
want you to keep thinking it's this way
- 43:26
yeah you can't know that there's another
- 43:27
way out
- 43:29
the industry is designed to keep you in
- 43:31
debt in
- 43:32
blind yeah and making them feel like
- 43:34
they have the power
- 43:36
yeah and to the younger ones coming in
- 43:38
you're looking at it is okay
- 43:40
that's what's selling and that's what's
- 43:42
popular i have to do that now and the
- 43:45
other thing that we missing is a lot of
- 43:46
young artists coming in i'm not saying
- 43:48
all of you please don't take this the
- 43:49
wrong way a lot of young artists coming
- 43:51
in ain't coming in with the heart for it
- 43:54
true this is one of the ways to get the
- 43:56
money no it's a way to get out the hood
- 43:59
but i'm just saying this we talk a lot
- 44:00
we're speaking a lot about passion and
- 44:02
and i'm putting my all and my feelings
- 44:04
in this no no no no we're dancing from
- 44:06
musician music guitarist to artists yeah
- 44:10
we do we are doing the dancing arguments
- 44:12
so we should make it clear to them it's
- 44:14
two different rules well that's why it's
- 44:16
true specified i'm not talking i mean
- 44:18
but again i just think that
- 44:20
what he said yo it was just
- 44:23
poignant because
- 44:25
it's so many other factors for the dudes
- 44:28
you know i mean like your talent ain't
- 44:29
even the lead factor no more well that's
- 44:32
yes and no that's not yes or no fam they
- 44:34
can fabricate songs yeah but talent
- 44:36
still rises to the top
- 44:38
i disagree and we mean you had this
- 44:40
argument 20 years ago not 20 15 years
- 44:42
ago it's televised on youtube me and
- 44:45
joe's arguing 20 years ago about talent
- 44:47
beating out
- 44:48
the the the machine
- 44:50
i was wrong in the heart the machine
- 44:52
wins bro
- 44:53
sometimes the machine won with rihanna
- 44:55
versus kisha cole it did
- 44:57
okay but the machine i submit to it's
- 45:00
just argument there the machine wins but
- 45:02
remember we was having this talking 0.8
- 45:04
it's still relevant today because you
- 45:06
could take a kelly price you could take
- 45:08
a singer a real singer that could sing
- 45:10
their ass off and will smoke most of
- 45:13
these girls under a dresser somewhere
- 45:15
but they can't market them and that's
- 45:17
where the money comes in
- 45:18
short term
- 45:20
i disagree but also time short term okay
- 45:23
might check one two one two might check
- 45:25
one two one two let me open up right
- 45:26
quick
- 45:28
a little late for an intro on the pod
- 45:30
but we're doing this for male r b right
- 45:32
now this ain't the version you got in
- 45:34
your serato neither don't do that
- 45:36
it's the carnegie mix the instruments
- 45:38
it's different it's different you hurt
- 45:42
see y'all missed that little [ __ ] like
- 45:43
that you hear that you hit that horn
- 45:44
note when the first star-ish look look
- 45:46
at the horn look
- 45:48
come on man
- 45:50
come on i do this music thing i do this
- 45:52
you do
- 45:53
oh youtube i hope y'all can get this i
- 45:55
hope y'all could
- 45:56
you can't though i got to
- 45:58
i gotta monetize
- 46:00
it now
- 46:01
the things we're doing for monetization
- 46:03
out there man it's crazy
- 46:05
all right
- 46:06
we'll get this going 40 minutes later 40
- 46:08
minutes later but it's cool it's a vibe
- 46:11
come on man that's my favorite solo come
- 46:13
on man nah come on man i should put you
- 46:16
in a good mood
- 46:17
today yo
- 46:18
what's y'all going today why y'all show
- 46:20
up like this today what you mean y'all
- 46:21
like seeing you all inspired by the time
- 46:23
stamp killer
- 46:24
all it takes is one dude to come and do
- 46:26
his job thoroughly
- 46:28
look at everybody else stepping it up
- 46:30
how y'all brothers feeling great how you
- 46:32
doing how's your mental health how's
- 46:33
your family how's your children how's
- 46:35
your wife wife
- 46:37
sorry
- 46:38
sorry y'all just fronting still
- 46:40
everybody's good man all right good how
- 46:42
was your weekend
- 46:43
mine yeah oh cool cool
- 46:45
mine's cool
- 46:46
oh a little stayed home watch some tv
- 46:49
okay stayed in bed chilled out a little
- 46:51
bit
- 46:52
that's it that's it that's all i got man
- 46:53
somebody take it away
- 47:09
i don't know if i believe half that [ __ ]
- 47:11
you know they had like paintings from
- 47:13
walls like on stone from 2000 bc that
- 47:16
they stole from somewhere no doubt it
- 47:18
was [ __ ] they made that [ __ ] up like
- 47:20
[ __ ] man a little slightly called
- 47:22
[ __ ] on some of that yeah yeah and
- 47:24
my second thought was the arrogance they
- 47:26
had a temple from egypt in what was
- 47:28
formerly the sackler uh wing but they
- 47:30
got rid of the sacko name so i think
- 47:32
probably just right just recently like
- 47:34
yeah i'm pretty sure
- 47:38
from egypt so they stole the temple
- 47:41
i don't know how they acquired it
- 47:42
probably stolen they you think they went
- 47:44
over there but even if they did it even
- 47:46
if they paid people or whatever the [ __ ]
- 47:48
the arrogance to be like you know what
- 47:50
we're gonna take this to manhattan
- 47:53
we're going to put it right here
- 47:55
y'all need it
- 47:58
you don't need that temple no that's
- 47:59
real no we're going to move it
- 48:02
a temple with stones
- 48:04
like four foot by four foot stones
- 48:08
what are you talking about you hear his
- 48:10
voice
- 48:11
that is wow
- 48:12
that's a while
- 48:14
that it's something you gotta be a real
- 48:15
[ __ ] to do that you know
- 48:17
do you mind you have to be a real
- 48:18
[ __ ] to participate in museums in
- 48:21
america no to take somebody else's [ __ ]
- 48:24
charge somebody else to get into this
- 48:26
still they should charge you to come
- 48:28
look at this [ __ ] that i stole from them
- 48:30
which
- 48:31
is
- 48:33
museums in america
- 48:35
yeah i'm just pretty sure museums
- 48:36
worldwide yeah i don't even think it's
- 48:37
just america no but if it's your [ __ ]
- 48:39
you go yeah i can't speak for worldwide
- 48:41
because it might be that [ __ ] none of
- 48:43
this [ __ ] over here it's ours it's ours
- 48:45
we're going to museums to see [ __ ] that
- 48:47
they took from somebody and brought it
- 48:50
over here and put it in a nice class
- 48:52
case i'm trying to be less racy so i'll
- 48:54
leave that to y'all
- 48:56
ah we know you're not doing that because
- 48:58
it's too many there's too many there's
- 48:59
too many wipes there's too many white
- 49:01
people that i [ __ ] with out there i love
- 49:03
them someone else would be like yo
- 49:05
it's getting heavy to listen to it seems
- 49:07
like there are being pretty equal
- 49:08
opportunities about stealing [ __ ] there
- 49:09
was roman [ __ ] greek [ __ ] [ __ ] yeah
- 49:12
they said they were stealing
- 49:13
[ __ ] that's your cousin [ __ ]
- 49:15
now you borrowed that from your cousins
- 49:17
let's trade i'm gonna get you some
- 49:18
american [ __ ] you give me some italian
- 49:20
[ __ ] that being said it was like it was
- 49:22
pretty inspiring because it was like
- 49:24
humans are [ __ ] nuts like people were
- 49:25
2 000 years ago making these detailed
- 49:27
[ __ ] gold chains and [ __ ] like
- 49:30
[ __ ] armor with nipples and abs on
- 49:32
them and [ __ ] like how the [ __ ] was
- 49:34
y'all doing that [ __ ] no like if you go
- 49:36
to uh i don't know if y'all ever been
- 49:37
but you're going like the sistine chapel
- 49:39
and all that though you hear what he
- 49:41
just eats
- 49:43
and i didn't like it at all don't do
- 49:44
that again yeah please don't don't talk
- 49:46
down on me like do that again
- 49:52
i know if [ __ ] over there say the
- 49:54
point all right don't attack us
- 50:18
yeah egypt like how's i've seen letters
- 50:21
that my grandpa wrote in like the world
- 50:23
world war two or whatever that are faded
- 50:25
like they got some [ __ ] from three
- 50:26
thousand four thousand they're gonna
- 50:28
restore that [ __ ] they've been having
- 50:29
that change
- 50:30
[ __ ]
- 50:32
i was thinking my whole time like no way
- 50:34
that's not real nah it can't be tanks
- 50:36
with no oxygen all like that oh come on
- 50:38
conspiracy there is joe no no no no no
- 50:40
no
- 50:41
y'all are cooking and i don't want to
- 50:43
step on my co-host y'all are going crazy
- 50:46
but while y'all were talking about that
- 50:48
somehow it led my brain to the youtube
- 50:50
rabbit hole that i went down today
- 50:53
of these two mexican dudes who just
- 50:55
build duplex apartments with under
- 50:59
lavish underground living conditions
- 51:01
with pools
- 51:02
from scratch in the wild right okay
- 51:07
it's two of them
- 51:09
they seem to have monopolized the word
- 51:11
primitive
- 51:12
their youtube page i think is like
- 51:14
primitive building or primitive tools or
- 51:17
primitive anything with primitive okay
- 51:19
there's this two mexican dudes and they
- 51:22
keep building astronomical [ __ ]
- 51:24
out of just wood
- 51:26
and it looks amazing
- 51:27
and i thought this was pretty amazing
- 51:29
when they had 50 million views on
- 51:33
one or two vids
- 51:35
as i continued to search i learned that
- 51:37
it was probably them that owned all of
- 51:39
these primitive pages and they keep
- 51:40
uploading the same video on like 10
- 51:42
different pages so they look really poor
- 51:44
but i think they're billionaires
- 51:46
i think they're billionaires look at
- 51:47
these two dudes they're billionaires yo
- 51:50
and they are tricking us with dirty
- 51:52
clothes
- 51:54
that's what they just take your shirt
- 51:55
off while you do this that's what they
- 51:56
do oh no you pulling up some [ __ ]
- 51:58
with 8 000 views these [ __ ] average 50
- 52:01
million views and it's on 10 different
- 52:03
pages no you ain't seen that [ __ ] thumb
- 52:05
that [ __ ] don't look worse than yours
- 52:09
nigga's not rich
- 52:13
he's right
- 52:14
man i don't want to be the guy to tell
- 52:16
you this no i've seen him build a
- 52:18
swimming pool he's also rich clay he's
- 52:20
rich
- 52:22
he may be not look rich he may not sound
- 52:25
rich if you heard him talk this kid is
- 52:27
rich he's a billionaire somebody
- 52:29
monetized this [ __ ] is rich
- 52:32
if he don't own these pages then he has
- 52:35
a lawsuit coming to somebody
- 52:37
no they might be i thought about
- 52:38
stealing this nigga's content
- 52:41
i'd just be impressed man like in the
- 52:43
last two years we've been stuck inside
- 52:44
the house [ __ ] looking at the
- 52:45
internet and like seeing [ __ ] that
- 52:47
people did like this or like in the
- 52:49
museums
- 52:50
gave me like a little new faith and
- 52:52
humanity to somebody yeah sometimes yeah
- 52:55
like man we're pretty cool sometimes
- 52:56
when we're not on our [ __ ]
- 52:58
by
- 53:10
yeah you're not blowing that [ __ ] down
- 53:11
look at him climbed out the tunnel all
- 53:13
right enough of these dudes they got
- 53:14
enough money um what would your
- 53:16
gentleman like to begin with 40 minutes
- 53:17
in 45 minutes in
- 53:19
anything you want whatever is on and
- 53:23
whatever is on the down we can start
- 53:25
anywhere you gentlemen what's important
- 53:27
yo did y'all watch uh
- 53:29
i don't know if y'all watched um you
- 53:31
better start with something that's not
- 53:32
the video music boxer okay that's not
- 53:34
the most important thing in the world
- 53:36
it's not the most important thing in the
- 53:37
world so you go to we're not gonna start
- 53:38
there we'll start with someone a little
- 53:40
more relevant
- 53:41
oh okay i didn't see this didn't have
- 53:43
this one here not going to cover that
- 53:45
yeah no not going to cover that i think
- 53:47
that's i think that's the media going
- 53:49
wild yeah
- 53:50
yeah you ain't gonna trick me with the
- 53:51
media tricks i will wait for the
- 53:53
proceedings thank you very much
- 53:55
don't fool me with what the blogs are
- 53:57
saying
- 54:01
all right let's see
- 54:02
what is important still festival season
- 54:05
you want to oh i met somebody i meant to
- 54:07
tell [ __ ] tank that all the [ __ ]
- 54:08
doing that can we talk challenge or
- 54:10
trash and they're off beat and off key
- 54:13
and they sound like [ __ ] maybe i'll call
- 54:14
him back to tell him that yeah i'm gonna
- 54:16
call him back um all right travis scott
- 54:20
offered to perform for free at coachella
- 54:23
coachella said no
- 54:25
don't know why that's big news
- 54:27
it's probably big news because of the
- 54:29
names involved but no no festival is
- 54:31
touching travis scott right now he's his
- 54:33
name
- 54:34
and the appearance of his name is a
- 54:36
liability it detracts fans right now
- 54:38
it's not an attraction it doesn't
- 54:39
incentivize anyone so
- 54:42
this was painfully obvious when it was
- 54:43
reported i just felt i needed to tell
- 54:45
y'all because they made the thing tell
- 54:47
the why yeah they made it a thing
- 54:50
yeah no they can't have him they can't
- 54:51
host him right now and no one
- 54:53
coachella's not hard-pressed to find a
- 54:54
replacement no no
- 54:57
this ain't summer jam letting the baby
- 54:58
perform no disrespect because i did like
- 55:00
that move
- 55:02
just a little different but this ain't
- 55:04
that now boy was it telling that travis
- 55:07
scott would want to perform for free
- 55:12
that part was telling
- 55:14
now we know in his predicament you
- 55:16
probably should want to perform for free
- 55:17
but what it says is that
- 55:20
oh we kind of need the coachella machine
- 55:24
to make things look a little more
- 55:27
to make things appear
- 55:29
if they see that coachella is still
- 55:31
backing
- 55:32
this
- 55:33
then maybe we won't lose all of these
- 55:35
other opportunities uh he lost his
- 55:37
little energy drink i didn't know he had
- 55:38
one but
- 55:40
i can imagine that when people die
- 55:42
you're gonna start losing some deals
- 55:43
travis scott i pray for you hold your
- 55:45
head still
- 55:46
i know this is still rough for you
- 55:48
and you still have to balance this kind
- 55:50
of juggling act so
- 55:52
that's not lost upon me uh and just to
- 55:55
clarify
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they said um
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it's not canceled it's on hold ah they
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gave you know they
- 56:03
this is basically just saying you're too
- 56:05
hot right now
- 56:06
you're gonna sit down for a little bit
- 56:08
revisit this and we'll revisit this
- 56:11
yeah when everybody if you're still a
- 56:12
money machine exactly
- 56:14
100 we can't not work with you we just
- 56:16
can't not work with you right now right
- 56:19
you got to think about him though and
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what
- 56:22
he feeling just sitting at home
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you know what i'm saying like
- 56:26
you're just sitting at home you'd be
- 56:27
right he probably don't want to go off
- 56:28
yeah i was going to say i said no you do
- 56:30
but you don't like people died i really
- 56:32
got to think about him right he'll be
- 56:33
sorry yeah he's alive and this is coming
- 56:35
from a huge travis fan i still listen to
- 56:37
the music but
- 56:39
how he feels right now because people
- 56:42
are backing away from him is like at the
- 56:44
bottom of the list i ain't saying about
- 56:45
people
- 56:46
how he feels about how he's being a part
- 56:48
of such a catastrophe yeah like i ain't
- 56:50
talking about he didn't ask for that
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yeah he didn't plan for that
- 56:54
i'm sure if he could have his way it
- 56:56
would go another way of course see and
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that that's where i differ i'm not
- 57:00
saying he asked for people to get killed
- 57:02
he's been asking for injuries he's been
- 57:05
you have a lyric saying if they ain't no
- 57:06
mosh pit if they ain't no injury he has
- 57:07
been asked i'm sorry he has been asking
- 57:09
for organized chaos he has not been
- 57:12
asking for death
- 57:13
i said he's not asking for death this
- 57:15
time but but people died so we want to
- 57:17
be clear correct he
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yes
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he was promoting being wild and being
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free and having fun
- 57:25
i am not going to say that travis scott
- 57:27
was promoting death no no no no no i'm
- 57:29
not going to do it no no no i don't i'm
- 57:30
not going to put that on that i'm not
- 57:32
saying he was promoting serious injury
- 57:34
either a lot of times people say what
- 57:35
they say but that don't necessarily mean
- 57:37
that
- 57:38
that's what
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the result is the result we don't really
- 57:44
care about your intention because this
- 57:45
is what happened it's bums in the port
- 57:47
authority that didn't intend on being
- 57:49
homeless yet here we are
- 57:51
your intentions don't matter when when
- 57:53
you at your show
- 57:54
i believe it was it was in new york i
- 57:56
forget which venue it was maybe earlier
- 57:57
where you talked to the guy
- 57:58
yeah like you are asking for serious
- 58:01
injuries when you gassed the dude up to
- 58:02
jump from the top and he broke both his
- 58:04
legs you're doing that maybe he don't
- 58:07
jump if you don't do that
- 58:09
i heard a different side of that story
- 58:11
but
- 58:12
i don't wanna yo whatever is happening i
- 58:15
imagine him to be having a difficult
- 58:16
time exactly
- 58:18
and i
- 58:19
am praying for anybody parents included
- 58:21
of people that lost their children
- 58:23
that's having a difficult time and
- 58:24
that's just not related to astro world
- 58:27
holiday season
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[Music]
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i hate to be that guy again
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but
- 58:34
the world keeps showing me
- 58:37
that's what it is in december yo it
- 58:39
ain't just dumb no it's not it ain't
- 58:41
just them yo [ __ ] just [ __ ] up out
- 58:42
here [ __ ] is dying [ __ ] is [ __ ] up
- 58:44
yo rest in peace vic yo
- 58:46
rest in peace vic rest in peace to vic i
- 58:49
hate to bring new york business to a
- 58:51
worldwide platform this way
- 58:53
but uh vic was a beloved uptown [ __ ]
- 58:56
man who who died over the weekend had a
- 58:59
heart attack in the club that's the
- 59:00
story that's reported from the news
- 59:02
outlets if i'm incorrect in that then my
- 59:05
apologies
- 59:06
but i want to be sensitive to this and
- 59:08
handle this with care because this is
- 59:09
somebody from uptown that [ __ ] love
- 59:11
[ __ ] [ __ ] with was cool as a fan yeah
- 59:14
he was 31 years old
- 59:16
31 years old and had a heart attack
- 59:19
while he was outside partying having a
- 59:21
time of his life
- 59:23
i'm still one of those guys that when
- 59:24
people die especially at a young age and
- 59:27
i see their instagram or you guys show
- 59:30
love and post their instagram i go to
- 59:32
their instagram
- 59:34
and i pay attention to the plans that
- 59:35
they had made
- 59:37
vic was promoting new year's eve plans
- 59:39
real big party that he was a part of
- 59:41
hosting
- 59:42
that he won't be a part of hosting
- 59:44
right super super super sad
- 59:47
and that's part of the ps uh ptsd that
- 59:50
comes with podcasting especially this
- 59:52
month i've been saying it all month
- 59:54
i come in here
- 59:56
i don't think we've done a podcast this
- 59:58
month without having a beast not at all
- 1:00:00
we have not i don't even think in
- 1:00:01
november
- 1:00:03
it's been a minute it's been a little
- 1:00:05
while
- 1:00:07
it's been a minute these times are
- 1:00:09
trying for people
- 1:00:11
they're difficult for people
- 1:00:13
and to randomly have a heart attack
- 1:00:16
wherever you are with your loved ones
- 1:00:17
watching i can't imagine it i can't
- 1:00:19
imagine it and of course everybody that
- 1:00:21
passes has young children
- 1:00:23
hurts my heart even more rest in peace
- 1:00:25
to vic i dedicate this episode to vic
- 1:00:27
and our prayers thoughts and condolences
- 1:00:29
go to anybody anybody who knew vic loved
- 1:00:32
vic anybody uptown anybody that partied
- 1:00:34
with him had a vibe we won't celebrate
- 1:00:36
his life today
- 1:00:38
because i know a lot of people that were
- 1:00:40
extremely too close to vic
- 1:00:43
so rest in peace to vic
- 1:00:45
but it's not just that yo it's not j yo
- 1:00:49
okay i have kids so i have a soft spot
- 1:00:52
in my heart for kids right and it's my
- 1:00:54
baby's birthday today round of applause
- 1:00:58
there you go oh my god turning four
- 1:01:00
years old
- 1:01:01
i love you baby
- 1:01:03
damn hopefully you get something it
- 1:01:05
flies it flies by happy birthday lex i
- 1:01:08
love you but just when [ __ ] pass when
- 1:01:10
they have children yo it just hits a
- 1:01:12
special spot in my heart
- 1:01:14
i got my mind does all types of thinking
- 1:01:16
and racing and just thoughts and prayers
- 1:01:20
love condolences when you when you when
- 1:01:23
you got a transition
- 1:01:25
during the holidays it's yeah
- 1:01:28
it's nasty it's nasty out there this is
- 1:01:30
really my biggest fear right now a lot
- 1:01:31
of happy hearts uptown man i feel for
- 1:01:34
y'all i feel for y'all as it should be
- 1:01:36
that is my biggest feel like i look at
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my uncle
- 1:01:39
rest in peace he passed away when his
- 1:01:41
daughter was six months old
- 1:01:43
and
- 1:01:44
still like i'm every time i look at my
- 1:01:46
daughter i'm just like yo i gotta be
- 1:01:48
here yo but you ain't in control of that
- 1:01:50
you have no control that's the scariest
- 1:01:53
[ __ ] to me bro and will you won't be
- 1:01:55
here like when these types of deaths
- 1:01:57
happen
- 1:01:58
like
- 1:01:59
a small part of me starts hating on the
- 1:02:01
people that'll be alive and present
- 1:02:04
70 80 years from now i believe they'll
- 1:02:06
have a device to say hey you take
- 1:02:08
another drink and you are
- 1:02:10
this close to a heart attack or this
- 1:02:12
close to a seizure
- 1:02:14
like when we start having those
- 1:02:15
conversations about chips and how they
- 1:02:18
might be advantageous health is the
- 1:02:20
first thing i go to yeah so it's like
- 1:02:23
some of those things that we fall victim
- 1:02:24
to now
- 1:02:26
just not knowing when our body will
- 1:02:27
collapse on us
- 1:02:29
having no control over where we'll be i
- 1:02:31
don't think they'll suffer from that 50
- 1:02:32
sixty seventy eighty years from now [ __ ]
- 1:02:35
might be sooner or not yeah if you
- 1:02:37
listen to elon musk it might be sooner
- 1:02:39
that rest in peace vic shout out to his
- 1:02:41
family friends really really really
- 1:02:43
really beloved and uh
- 1:02:45
uh on dickman and uptown man sad day sad
- 1:02:48
day
- 1:02:48
uh
- 1:02:49
if we listen to elon musk then yes who
- 1:02:52
is round of applause times magazine time
- 1:02:55
magazine's person of the year
- 1:02:58
man of the year elon musk i don't have
- 1:03:01
much to report on that outside of all my
- 1:03:03
stock people telling me that tesla's the
- 1:03:06
move
- 1:03:07
yeah i can see it that's what i have
- 1:03:09
elon said the chips are closer than we
- 1:03:12
think he said trains in la are closer
- 1:03:13
than we think everything's closer than
- 1:03:15
we think
- 1:03:16
i can't imagine what that guy's brain
- 1:03:18
goes through on a day to day so yeah
- 1:03:19
i'll just invest
- 1:03:21
i'll just i think i'm smart [ __ ] make
- 1:03:23
me look like a [ __ ]
- 1:03:24
mentor
- 1:03:25
yeah like [ __ ] your little dumbass out
- 1:03:27
here
- 1:03:28
yeah cause they just think about some i
- 1:03:30
mean when it comes to being smart they
- 1:03:32
just think about some of the things that
- 1:03:33
are like really far out thoughts to us
- 1:03:35
like
- 1:03:36
elon musk is talking about hey in
- 1:03:40
uh
- 1:03:41
irl
- 1:03:43
we don't have enough humans
- 1:03:45
right
- 1:03:46
listen to that
- 1:03:48
wait we don't have that that's what his
- 1:03:49
brain is plagued with his brain
- 1:03:52
is saying that
- 1:03:54
modern civilization
- 1:03:56
as the world ought to know it does not
- 1:03:58
have enough humans to function the way
- 1:04:00
that it's supposed to function that's
- 1:04:01
what his brain says it's so weird
- 1:04:03
because everybody else is saying we got
- 1:04:04
too many if we're idiots i mean i like
- 1:04:07
to listen to people like him who just
- 1:04:09
think
- 1:04:10
outside
- 1:04:15
anybody that's just has an outlandish
- 1:04:17
thought that sounds stupid today that
- 1:04:19
might make sense in 50 60 years i want
- 1:04:22
to hear from i do and i want to see what
- 1:04:24
la looks like with trains
- 1:04:27
i see what new york looks like with
- 1:04:28
trains and
- 1:04:30
you need more money to fix it
- 1:04:33
but every day there's somebody
- 1:04:35
attempting to stab somebody on the new
- 1:04:36
york subway oh yeah every day is to be
- 1:04:39
funny no that's what your brain went no
- 1:04:40
whatever that's not where my brain goes
- 1:04:42
that's what they doing i turn on the
- 1:04:44
news every day every day is yo [ __ ]
- 1:04:47
smacks the [ __ ] out of a girl on the
- 1:04:48
train yo [ __ ] stab somebody on the
- 1:04:50
train yo [ __ ] mental health problem
- 1:04:52
goals on the train
- 1:04:53
actually i come in here today because
- 1:04:55
all weekend my brain stayed on back to
- 1:04:58
having kids and having a soft spot for
- 1:05:00
children
- 1:05:01
there's a video going around of a mental
- 1:05:03
health patient
- 1:05:06
and i want to talk i'll do you have to
- 1:05:09
talk about it
- 1:05:10
and i'll grant him the courtesy
- 1:05:13
and death
- 1:05:15
to call him a mental health patient
- 1:05:19
actually before i get there
- 1:05:21
i want to highlight a doc that i watched
- 1:05:24
at least 90 times
- 1:05:26
because that's how sick it was and i
- 1:05:29
don't remember the guy's name it was
- 1:05:31
sean vannis or sean cantus or sean
- 1:05:34
something
- 1:05:36
but this this little white dude was sick
- 1:05:38
enough
- 1:05:40
to kill his girlfriend
- 1:05:42
and two daughters
- 1:05:43
both under the age of five
- 1:05:47
and help the police look for them now i
- 1:05:50
watch a lot of docs yo i do
- 1:05:54
i have never seen one
- 1:05:57
where the 40 year old dad
- 1:06:00
kills
- 1:06:02
girl dad as they like to say um
- 1:06:05
kills two girls
- 1:06:06
and his girlfriend and helps the police
- 1:06:09
look for them for 30 40 however many
- 1:06:12
days it was
- 1:06:14
if y'all saw that story then y'all know
- 1:06:16
just how sick it was that's up there
- 1:06:18
with for me the the girl that was on
- 1:06:20
trial for trying to aid her boyfriend
- 1:06:22
that could kill himself via text that
- 1:06:24
was a unique case as well
- 1:06:26
but i ain't never seen no [ __ ] like a
- 1:06:28
parent doing that he threw his two
- 1:06:30
daughters in the oil oh yeah yeah i
- 1:06:33
remember this
- 1:06:34
i seen this too alive
- 1:06:36
they were alive
- 1:06:40
earlier in the doc the oldest one is
- 1:06:42
talking about how she's a daddy's girl
- 1:06:44
and she loves him death she was the one
- 1:06:46
he threw in last
- 1:06:48
and she said daddy what are you doing
- 1:06:51
after her little sister was gone in oil
- 1:06:54
not water
- 1:06:55
oil
- 1:06:56
right so i think about this because i
- 1:06:58
have kids and everybody that dies
- 1:07:03
has kids
- 1:07:05
and this nigga's a sicko
- 1:07:07
and then we have this video floating
- 1:07:09
around if you haven't seen it i'll
- 1:07:10
explain it to you for the last few days
- 1:07:13
it was so disturbing i tried not to
- 1:07:15
watch it but then it gained traction and
- 1:07:17
momentum
- 1:07:19
so it's a gentleman who is clearly going
- 1:07:21
through mental health issues
- 1:07:23
and he's using this video to discuss
- 1:07:25
mental health issues
- 1:07:28
when it comes to parents or dads
- 1:07:30
specifically unable to see their
- 1:07:32
children
- 1:07:34
and going through the court process and
- 1:07:35
the baby mom process of seeing your
- 1:07:38
children when it gets rough
- 1:07:41
this guy was a sicko
- 1:07:44
this guy
- 1:07:45
killed his current girlfriend who was
- 1:07:47
pregnant
- 1:07:50
because she threatened for him not to
- 1:07:52
see his kid that weren't wasn't born yet
- 1:07:54
he killed her
- 1:07:56
went to his ex-girlfriend's house
- 1:07:58
knocked on the door
- 1:07:59
turned his video on and start recording
- 1:08:01
himself saying yo yo
- 1:08:04
i did some wild [ __ ] i blacked out i
- 1:08:06
just killed my ex-girlfriend
- 1:08:09
yo ladies out there if you can let the
- 1:08:11
dad see their kid blah blah blah he went
- 1:08:13
into why he was losing his mind
- 1:08:16
his ex answered the door he said oh
- 1:08:20
here's my ex right there today is the
- 1:08:22
day and he ran in there and he killed
- 1:08:24
his ex
- 1:08:26
after killing his present girl pregnant
- 1:08:28
girlfriend and then killed himself
- 1:08:32
now
- 1:08:33
i want to say
- 1:08:34
to y'all out there who might suffer like
- 1:08:36
me trigger running
- 1:08:39
trigger warning trigger warning
- 1:08:42
because this stuff is disturbing
- 1:08:44
but i am going to play this i'm going to
- 1:08:46
play this clip
- 1:08:49
this puts me at a crossroads because i
- 1:08:51
don't feel like people who are this
- 1:08:53
menacing
- 1:08:55
should have their points shared
- 1:08:58
but i also don't think that y'all should
- 1:09:00
hear that type of
- 1:09:02
that type of malice
- 1:09:05
that type of evil
- 1:09:06
from me because i don't feel like i
- 1:09:08
possess that in me
- 1:09:10
so let me see if i find this here
- 1:09:12
right bong
- 1:09:14
bong
- 1:09:16
bong
- 1:09:18
and uh we have
- 1:09:21
bomb
- 1:09:23
um i gotta make it quick
- 1:09:26
for everybody out there that supported
- 1:09:27
me and really knows what's going on
- 1:09:29
thank you all
- 1:09:31
um let's not take that into a custody
- 1:09:33
battle i've been
- 1:09:35
going through um having my
- 1:09:38
ex-wife say i molested my children and
- 1:09:42
all kinds of craziness been fighting for
- 1:09:44
custody for three years
- 1:09:46
so uh yeah i'ma pause this and talk
- 1:09:48
through this show [ __ ] it's been real
- 1:09:50
crazy yes
- 1:09:51
hold up how do i pause all kinds of
- 1:09:53
craziness pause
- 1:09:55
stupid ass big fingers
- 1:09:58
many of us men have gone through custody
- 1:10:00
battles
- 1:10:01
to the men out there who don't know how
- 1:10:03
custody battles they'll go they get
- 1:10:05
really ugly
- 1:10:07
they get really ugly sometimes things
- 1:10:09
are said that are untrue
- 1:10:11
and they paint your character to be in a
- 1:10:13
way which it isn't isn't that's how
- 1:10:16
custody battles go
- 1:10:18
and i'm gonna talk through this fighting
- 1:10:19
for custody because he seems to be
- 1:10:21
justifying this type of evil and it's
- 1:10:23
disgusting
- 1:10:24
[ __ ] has been real crazy what's up
- 1:10:26
oliver you know about this guy's giving
- 1:10:28
a shout out um in the middle of my
- 1:10:29
ex-wife also
- 1:10:31
meet you know and start dating somebody
- 1:10:33
new okay
- 1:10:35
and she got pregnant
- 1:10:37
and um
- 1:10:38
you know we got in the fight first thing
- 1:10:40
she does it's threatening that she's
- 1:10:41
gonna do the same thing you're never
- 1:10:43
gonna see your kids blah blah blah
- 1:10:45
it's the holidays man i don't have no
- 1:10:47
family nothing
- 1:10:49
anyway i just did i'm gonna pause this
- 1:10:52
because though this individual is sick
- 1:10:55
he speaks to something that i'm sure is
- 1:10:57
prevalent in many of us out there
- 1:11:00
it's tough around the holidays yo
- 1:11:03
it's tough around the holidays
- 1:11:05
and we cannot account
- 1:11:07
for how tough everyone is in what
- 1:11:09
they're enduring and going through yo
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