Charge It To The Game

what we do hell no look at the sunrise callus sunrise really gets my gears

going we see it every morning that's a nice view why ain't gonna lie

i'm trying you you've been there for 30 years

you've done everything there is to do in that neighborhood you've jogged walked power walked ran cycled a little bit

more strong pelvic thrusted you've ate at restaurants that aren't there anymore no i'm just been in

buildings that wasn't there you older than most of the buildings there you sold houses bought houses

cheated been faithful you've done it you are in the hall of fame of that town

that's the truth just so i'm clear like you him your picture right next to mine

never thought about it that you did it's easy to see somebody else's person

yo let's go i don't feel like it with you today dawg we're good we're good let's drink his little red bull man he's

good man i see you got his black history jacket on black history month what you want me to do go get your [ __ ] up and give us a speech about it

that's what he got wrong hand in hand the black hand was gonna be the right one

you're segregating the hand now you're my [ __ ] parks how are you doing man i'm not doing it just so the audience knows i'm trying to

avoid a serious start to this pod please please we chilling zen joe is present i

think i don't really think it's much for me though you said that last week too like you said that the last four years

episode you talked about a patreon episode oh you're right you're right i was very peaceful last episode not that i think the fans really love zen joe

no no they want the argument i notice they just want arguing they want the

provocative well they think i'm a train wreck and that's what i was talking about with these guys before we got here

my rep takes a hit just in my podcast leadership

i got to take certain sides of the argument i gotta poke a little over here pause

throw some [ __ ] over here they say joe's a lunatic i say that guy's putting on a

clinic difference of perspective i suppose true indeed it's about true indeed true

indeed listen to parks why i ordered it's cool let's get these drops out of the way

[Applause] microphone check one two what is this

[Music] welcome to episode 512. 512 of the joe budden podcast i'm your

humble gracious grateful and highly favored host joe budden here with a few of my nearest and dearest parks is here

it's just here ice is here corey is here young boys in the backyard here lively lively how's everybody doing good good

how y'all feeling how was your weekend week mental health it was good i went to the show finances family it felt it felt

good to be in front of human beings again performing oh get out of here yeah man hometown

when my homies trying to get into the party scene he's doing clothes he's doing a bunch of [ __ ] and asked us to come up and pop up so we did first time

we did a show in three years oh man no round of applause for so that was fun popping up in support of your homies of

course that's great got some how was the show it was cool it was cool the venue was real dope too big for the probably

the show that we did it's like a 2000 cap room [ __ ] beautiful room they probably put two million dollars into this room

so it was gorgeous too probably too big there's only a couple hundred people there but still fun to get out in front of the people regardless

did you ever come on the pod and tell the fans how you truly feel about saying goodbye to after the show life

what do you mean like whatever goes on after the show

ah like did you ever tell the fans like how you do they know about how you feel about that are you hiding a part piece

of yourself asking a question ish i was never the most rowdy post show guy i agree

it wasn't that much of a change for me see fans hey i mean yo it's

go drink me some honey with the homies that's hot that can always be fun hot honey cold hand it could be any type of

honey yeah but there is that division after the show of like yeah oh we can't talk

about it [ __ ] it hey what's up hey what's up what's up sir good day good day everybody's mental

health is great spirits are high great great rattle is high feeling good ready to talk i'm great man i'm feeling kind

of better than i have the last maybe three four weeks you better chill out i'm in a good

everyone is either coming out of something going through something or heading into something

i think that's what he was trying to say how was your weekend joe

i just [ __ ] it up yeah what are you doing all right fine how was your i'm stranded i was trying to deflect that's

fine if that's my man you do anything exciting fun no no

you're running around without a little bit now my days of sharing fun on this part is over like that's why i still commend ice and you [ __ ] like when

y'all start getting punches no nothing fun happening chilling

eric's in here [Laughter] you don't hear them

no but my weekend was good good a lot of rest fun costing me too much so i like to stay in the house oh

yeah and these guys just finished telling me how unfun new york is now and i don't want them to get me riled up i

feel like it's getting fun again see maybe i don't want that maybe i'll

be wrong new york's not fun manhattan i i could see what parts i

could see parker's viewing not queens to be rocking yeah i don't know the story will be on fire the story of that is for

like the 20-something year old like the young 20s like a story everyone would be rocking i went to melody there was a lot of people on dates still was it yeah

like a lot of different stories david's [ __ ] on date joe yeah i don't ever really do manhattan anymore

that's kind of what we're saying actually yeah actually brooklyn be rocking too like i see a whole bunch of [ __ ] with

brooklyn on fire yeah i don't know if man hadn't got it no more i don't want you to utilize your

platform this way to [ __ ] on our home state i'm from new jersey yeah same [ __ ] no it

ain't do you think they claim us kinda no [ __ ] what are y'all talking about all right moving right along

all-star weekend yeah yeah i ain't watching none of that [ __ ] me either

wait y'all watch one minute of it i'm nothing i know what i got one minute i was performing so i couldn't watch the

dunk contest i was driving i was not performing

i was free and available mad tvs around

big ones i had access to every little free streaming site i could have seen this

one million different ways but guess what why the [ __ ] would i do that

saturday night yeah the dunk contest has been done you think cole anthony no

disrespect to any of these gentlemen obi topping champion and winner he won

this thing apparently that was a big deal but i knew something was wrong when i saw the winner announced and didn't see

nobody talking about the winner or the dunks yo saturday night went by i almost

didn't see a tweet about this outside of this was the worst thing i've ever seen in my life and then i thought good for

y'all why would you sit down at the tv and watch uh what's the dude from houston uh

that i like jalen green jaylen green who else is in this

excuse me

anderson really good player for the warriors you think i want to see him jump around

i just told you all about my nightmare with the kids at the trampoline park i'm almost i almost got a jump phobia going

on these [ __ ] could have used trampolines yeah there was no box office here there

was nothing to make me stop my hot saturday night and saturday was nice in new york it was cold [ __ ] upstate it was

beautiful no it was a beautiful night in new york

i wasn't rushing to any screen to watch the young generation jump around

the young generation of uh no disrespect not superstars

that's what they're not superstitious i'm saying like there's never any superstars and i've seen how they are in

starlets with the girls i'm y'all are not getting me you see them jumping a different way

this ain't this wasn't no no skills challenge what happened i don't know i don't know

yes i don't know who won it who dribbled the best yo this is a world

this is cleveland this is a this is a [ __ ] chart-topping bot

y'all hear this commentary fam this was but that's that speaks to the show exactly yeah that's not on us that's the

show i know that karl anthony towns wanted three-point concerts wait then when i thought the weekend the saturday

couldn't get no weirder i learned that carl anthony towns wins the three-point contest and set a record

he set a record uh lee was 28 in the championship round he was also now they changed the rule for him they let him

wear uh a chain that is from his mom who passed away it's the first time they changed that

rule and he won so he was incentivized in a different way he was shooting off faith because karl anthony time right

but congratulations to him awesome i have different takes from this

all-star well i didn't see the game i saw the game i saw the second half of the game i saw the game i saw the whole game

it was cool um i like the new format because again they they uh are playing

for charities now so it's every quarter is a dollar amount given to your charity

so you know kinda in the old school all-star games they just be bullshitting throughout the first three quarters and

then they'll start playing a little hard at the end with this it gives them a little incentive to play a little hard all four quarters because the money's

going to your charity so as each quarter winds down they start going at it a little bit to get some money to their

charity so that was a little dope but yeah i don't care

you're stupid i watched the game man and all i took away from it is bruh steph curry's [ __ ] different and he didn't

take the game and show me that alien but him shooting three-pointers turning around looking at the crowd saying yo

did he go in did he go in and then running he did that [ __ ] a lot he was just fam no he was on fire don't

do that though he's always on fire see i watched stuff like that yeah right like

any time steph curry sees devin booker or trey young yeah he's just gonna do

this like to prove a point and i thought he and trey were gonna get into a little shootout early no no excuse me no no no

no no trey could shoot my [ __ ] you're not saying he's steph don't start i'm just saying i thought they were going to go for it because they made back to back

one time but oh but didn't trade just one kept going yeah yeah one made sure that nobody else was going

to go with him either one is really on his own another planet planet yeah

literally fam he hit a he hit a one-legged fade away from like one step

past half court you weren't playing with like he was just throwing [ __ ] up at the point like all right let me just see if i can hit this one oh it worked all

right let me do one more i'm not passing i'm bringing it straight down and pulling up he's the best shooter ever ever like you heard it here first ladies

and gentlemen oh man yo i found out how to fix the dunk contest too by the way all right i'm all

very simple very simple you should not be allowed to be in the dunk contest or any other

events in all-star weekend if you're not in all-star if you're not on playing in

the all-star game because that'll i don't know what he's saying i don't hate that they ain't gonna do that i know

what i don't know i can't do that this is like when the [ __ ] controller just starts saying no no no what i'm saying is the problem is

like all right there's no stars that's so the people in the r star game are the stars so you pick out of them this is

who's participating in the contests one is voluntary and a lot of the stars don't want to do it you get what i'm

saying they trying to ask them and beg them to do it if i'm a star why on earth would i do the duncan you don't want to do this on a saturday then come back and

have to play again on sunday but [ __ ] have done it yeah when they really gave a [ __ ] i have my whole roster out here

in cleveland spread out in different hotels yeah what are you talking about

like this is like for the young kids the young kids have taken over i'm about to sound like the ages now but this was

their [ __ ] now like not for nothing like lebron is is him the 20-year guy all of these [ __ ] is them

yeah the guys these are veterans we're not we're not saying that like not for nothing i'm i'm i'm what i call myself

i'm not even a hardcore nba fan anymore like i don't even watch the six of games i check us that here and there dog when

they announce the dunk contest contestants i literally said who to every name and there's a lot of that

like we used to run to it to see oh [ __ ] this person that person this person there's no reason

never mind the fact that they could have put on a clinic a lot of people wasn't checking for it just off with a who was

duncan that's what i'm saying you have to find a way to identify that i'm not dissing again hey the people that were not in

front of their tv when zach levine and aaron gordon got started quickly found the television that is true no but

that's that buzz went around fast because that and that and that went into overtime it was long yeah so people

found a tv somewhere and word traveled they did it two years in a row this nobody even even hit a group chat to say

yo what's going on here do you see this dunk fam and that's the other thing you watch the highlights the highlights don't show you what really happened

because everybody up there took six seven tries to get a dunk off there was no energy in this at all it

was like bro just fast forward this and then out and then outside of this right like all year long we have these other

platforms where dunkers are dunking and you seeing like some of the most creative [ __ ] that you've ever seen

so then to get here so then to get here with the best of the best and this is the show you put on

it's unacceptable they should hire those guys to like at least go get the g-league jumpers like y'all got people

that know how to jump or at least like i said have them coach them like give them the ideas for the choreography yeah yeah

yeah exactly yeah like man [ __ ] it you should you should have to submit video to prove that you can even do some [ __ ]

yo yeah like the zach levine aaron gordon [ __ ] was the best counselor i've ever seen and the most creative like

them [ __ ] gotten a think tank for some of them dunks that them [ __ ] doing you think zach levine aaron gordon was

better than uh mike and dominique yes yes creative creative watch not for star power like you couldn't

possibly um challenge that star power but the [ __ ] that them [ __ ] was doing creatively i never saw nobody damn i go

back i'll go back and watch that dunk contest i got that better than vince carter [ __ ] yeah i never saw nobody do some of that [ __ ] like and that first

vince carter dunk contest was the greatest [ __ ] ever to me but you go back and look at that 2016 dunk contest i'm

not ready to just totally get rid of mike versus dominique i'm not ready to get rid of that yet

zach levine aaron gordon i'll do it with you maybe it's the best dunk contest i've ever seen vince carter was the best

dunker i've ever seen in a dunk contest and i i it was that building was silent

you couldn't even understand what he was doing yeah until then until then into replays

yeah it took replay he was going crazy he was like they they went crazy i was

outside i might have been there when j.r ryder first did that under the [ __ ] and that was the first like real

introduction of oh there's new [ __ ] around like what was that but some of the stuff you broke

[ __ ] oh please nah that's deep breath stop d bro i love d brown but yo stop it yo

i know it shook the world at the time it was creative that's what i'm saying that [ __ ] was looking right through that blindfold and it was staring right at

the rim trying to add a little elbow to it get out of here see the other part about the vince

carter [ __ ] which made it so dope is even going into that vince carter was like that dunker

so everybody already was like oh [ __ ] this is the one we want to see in the contest what's he gonna do that's true

so that helps now i'm gonna just use the time to [ __ ] on some more people blake griffin hopping over that kia get it out

of here get that out of here yo i was watched yo they they drove the kia in on like a

slow motion platform it was this whole big theater sponsored by kia of course oh my god that was a mess hey

nate robinson being superman or whatever he was man that was hopping over spud webb

he just went out there hopping over stuff that's like ob topping he's kept putting the ball behind all right [ __ ] you

athletic behind your back over the leg over yet [ __ ] sit down and that's why you gotta

get a props to zach levine in them the [ __ ] they was doing we never saw this [ __ ] right here is just like

dunking over a person just a car same [ __ ] shorter than person really

yeah basically but no that's zach levine and aaron gordon that was bad that was the best one i was the best that was the best one

we never found out what chris paul was doing remember they lost that playoff game and he went to the other team

locker room was trying to bust the door open i do remember that was that chris paul i know he was involved

yeah i thought someone was going after chris paul no it was chris paul going after somebody yes okay i don't remember

exactly the details me either there's a few things we got to get to the bottom of anyway all-star weekend proves my theory

right cleveland really really cold a lot of you uh young ladies out there went

straight from super bowl to all-star weekend i know that because you all said

hey does everybody know a hairstylist in cleveland hey

yo when you read the things that women say is so unreasonable hey it's three hours i need you to kind of like your

dog what the [ __ ] do you think is going on but cool get your [ __ ] off i'm watching i have to

live vicariously through the people i thought ish was going to all-star weekend because he loves cleveland so much and he got the taper

once i see ish get a taper i'd be thinking it's going down but anyway so i'm watching and [ __ ]

and i'm like oh when some of them got to get dressed

and put on a coat i told you that no man i told you that a couple parts

it's bad winter coat

[ __ ] was snowing you can't put them low i hate this now [Music]

you can't put them [ __ ] shoes on um that nba 75 list

i was telling these gentlemen on the way here if i'm jason kidd i'm walking around there just

shoulder bumping most of the people on this list jason kidd he's not really spoken about in the

light that he should be singing he wasn't on the list he's on the list no he's there he's

there i'm talking about egos in this room in this room everybody belongs got you this is the elite

75 of us here is your errors your error hey i seen what you was doing there minds are thinking different so i'm

thinking about that jason kidd basketball mine i'd be pushing most of these [ __ ]

jason kidd was that dude so when he bumps steph excuse me he won't bump stuff right

nobody can bump okay that's what i was saying yes you know how i feel about you about about uh wardell

just call him wardell now okay who else do i feel like that about let's get all the sports [ __ ] out the way

no you like the homes no no it's over your man crushes over

stephen curry yo i don't really think you all know who this guy is no i do have he reminds me about that mahomes

has the talent to do it steph curry does it did it yeah and

continue to do it had the talent did it i go back time to time and just read the scouting report on him coming into the

league like just for who was true yeah he'll get out of here these slinkies tiny can he finish don't

really know if he's a point guard like they were [ __ ] on him so for him to do it battle injury battle monte ellis

battle up the the ownership change because he was there for that too

he just battled a lot to me [ __ ] up ankles they said he was frail he was brittle

yeah they invested at the right time the warriors

coming off injury extension he was worth more but now we got him and now we're on a run same way

to uh a lot of nfl teams when the uh win the chip when your quarterback is on a rookie on a rookie scale okay or a cheap

deal so yeah i just think he's different i don't that's my man that's my man rant

that's your man crush and i really don't think that nobody else in the nba could look at him a certain way they can nobody no because nobody could do what

he does they could change it ain't many people like dawg change the game nobody can do that [ __ ] he was doing the other

day nobody you can't just come down full speed crossover behind the back

you can't do it our argument's gonna funny in the light what argument me and this argument i see what park

talking it's all good what argument is the the stephen curry kevin durant argument kevin durant can't do with

steph curry and rest in peace to uh kevin durant's grandma that's why he was not in this

75 pictures she passed that same day rest in peace it's a rest in peace yeah um kevin durant can't do that fam he's

shooting that [ __ ] from half court off the dribble and turn around and just rain yeah he knows going in

that'll make i don't feel like getting the same water we're not getting the argument again man was moving no no no nobody could do that he revolutionized

basketball though like little kids don't want dunk no more they just want to shoot 40 footers

that's what i'm saying it's only a handful of players that have changed the game from top to bottom i agree yeah

like there was a time when [ __ ] couldn't shoot or score at all you just wanted dribbles sure like there was a time you go to the park and [ __ ] had

no type of shots i just want to cross you over yeah you're right now you you seven feet you want to pull up

everybody no post game at all everybody want to shoot sure like the old [ __ ] in me hates it but i respect it

see that's just another measure of men right like yo what pick was you at the park

yeah i want to know that before certain [ __ ] just get to talk and rowdy like would you like toward the end

of the picture [Music]

come on man yeah come on man all right what do we think about michael jordan and mary j blige

hey man shout out to mike come on mike was off that heady too no michael's off that tequila oh facts that's right he's

a tequila that's what he got right yup you got him yeah he was off that oh yeah that's the fun one right there

yeah yeah yeah you could tell mike was bouncing around man was good michael saucy i've never seen him be this personable

he was running around hugging jokers putting his hand on his ass mike wasn't playing with these things

mike had to let you know hey look i'm still here [ __ ] yeah he was talking mad [ __ ] told magic yo we can go

get some sneakers right now [ __ ] i don't have anything to say about it because mike is michael jordan and

mary's been married since 91 yeah that's when the run started yeah it was i assume that they assume that they know

each other thanks for 30 years yeah yeah i don't think that was a hey it's mary

yeah i would agree oh there's some good topics though

too much for everybody yeah

yo so mike and scotty is really never talking again huh because michael michael hold a grudge oh yeah and scotty

clearly holds the cards too well that's the other thing i want to ask you about grudges between men because we also saw

uh ray allen ray allen and kevin uh kevin garnett not do the dap

i don't even remember what their beef was from the boston days oh i think right well when rayon went to miami yeah

but there had to be something more behind the scenes for this beef to still be this present

so give it to me i heard i ain't really [ __ ] with them i heard um i don't think paul pierce [ __ ] with them neither they

took a picture that means yeah i think so oh they took a picture yeah they took a picture together

oh so maybe we just made too much of the no dap yeah all right i saw people doing the same thing when

mike first walked up he walked right past brian and started dabbing people up and immediately they was like oh look he

shaded lebron and then they had a moment at the end like sometimes you just read too much into [ __ ] yeah that's true yeah and it's a room

full of everybody that you [ __ ] with everybody that's super legendary like you you're wearing the same [ __ ] yeah

like oh i know that was you my bad and we all saucy right yeah and i've seen you guys this morning in the lobby yeah

it could be that too yeah i was just with you back backstage or whatever that's just this is this oh it got to be

seen or didn't happen yeah like you said we was all in the back right three could have just been

chopping it up because there's no picture of it just the narrative people want to create does anybody take anything away from all

of lebron's one-liners about not closing the door on a cleveland return

and about uh playing his last year with his son whatever team that is i love it somebody

posted i forgot who it was like yo lebron just did the most g [ __ ] ever yep he just basically told every team in the

nba draft for my son and i'm gonna come [ __ ] with y'all yeah no draft my son you get my farewell tour

that's what i mean like yeah like that part because it could be the worst team in the league but you want that

and what he did was he depending on your draft position he might have boosted his son up yeah i'm not gonna be the guy to [ __ ] on

this move because it's so genius and beautiful and we've never seen anything like it

and again this is the evolution of the three mike kobe lebron like lebron

is able to get it done kobe rest in peace it's not here and my

kids yeah yes so i want to see this

and we owe lavar ball an apology absolutely yeah did we ever get to that

we touch on it what we'll get back we never did just for this to be able to happen is

beautiful now brawny i think is the 34th or 35th ranked

prospect so now let's put this in perspective you're asking a lottery team

to jump way up yeah take a jump on one year of lebron

might be worth it hell yeah i'm not saying it's not because he does too much for the economy he transcends he

transcends the game it's bigger than basketball if you're doing that i'm sure it makes sense to some teams

he still got two years though bronier jr so next year he's got two years

hopefully with some improvement he could be in the top it's gonna line right up with lebron's free agency i think even

if he don't though even if he stays at 34 it's a broad power move like yo this is

what you get so he might have been let's say second round or something now somebody might

look at it and say damn you know what we could use brian here that'll we'll sell out every game

you know what i'm saying like we get that part it's worth the risk it's win

hold on and if if brian's son is here when brown retired what you think is going to happen he's still going to be

working with the kid like we could work this together i really hope it ends up in cleveland

it's not going to be dope where are you where'd he end up i know both of them gonna end up in cleveland you know

like this is just remember how we knew lebron was a laker like a year before he said it yeah yeah like you know they

both going they'll be fine that would be fly and cleveland's pretty good so i mean if they continue with

this path it might kind of line up with where he's ranked oh and that lines us up with part two of lebron versus dan

gilbert oh man this is going to be excellent because if you think ronnie is

cutting into darius garland time rondo over there go ahead

yo go tell rondo that uh you need him to come out for the third quarter ann sexton

he just was eighteen for the season all right well i'm done with sportszone you're sporting me out

y'all sporting me i'm i'm finished with sports and it's wednesday i'm done i tell you what though that first

bronie lebron lob or vice versa is gonna be the one yes and that nft is already sold yeah

you think that the way brian lobb is a is a classic moment yeah that's it nfc that's it right there

nobody talk about that d ways nuggets on the job yes i'm working

all right so what else we got joe um i saw the kanye doc oh did you okay what do you think

it was great it was great right um

i ain't laughed that hard in a long time which part pressing doug infinite

yo now wait man hold up this shouldn't have been funny

but it was oh man i'm about to get in trouble let me think about tape

nah just let it fly bro no edit button no no no no because i was supposed to be at the

listening session look at more names i heard about it i was like

nah the kanye listening party oh donna ii

florida okay tonight oh it's actually gonna game says he's out there there's rumors that drake is going everybody's

going to be in miami oh you got to go no you don't no

so anyway i put the kanye dock on and i was there right i was there i saw my little cube that i

used to hang out in that was right before that rockefeller door and that was like the forbidden door back there

you couldn't go back there you had a fellow section you had yeah you can go to the rockefeller section the murder inc section

uh well disturbing the piece had a floor i think i don't remember but

[ __ ] like me couldn't go in there and if you didn't work there you couldn't go in there

and i was a young artist at that time so like i didn't have anywhere to go in there

in that entire building you got cool with rock at one point right well i was on rockefeller at one point so i thought

but then i was cool with all that i mean but you still couldn't go back there that was that he would be your sign now you can uh you know he's a lobby this is

a forbidden office and area you got no reason back here bro and anytime that door cracked

anybody tried to peek in there and it always looked like mass hysteria remember they had the kanye tracks

blasting they had just blaze tracks blasting yeah cam just got here oh [ __ ] we listening

to old boys wait that's coming right like it was different over there they moved different

so it was different right yo but this was the era where

you got to remember deft everybody's there the best of the best is there this is the era where you had to try to sneak and get your [ __ ]

listened to right because if you're not a priority and we're not focusing on you

we'll never hear what you're doing right and even if we hear it yo i'm not the person that needs to hear it

this ain't my job i'll tell such and such that it's hard so when he started playing all falls

down and wayne cleared this up already wayne what's in that clip shout out to wano wayno says uh that was not her

first time hearing all four you came in here did this 10 times and we know that

but what did she what did he want her to do and that's not her job she's not in the a r

no but the great the the greater part is he left her office and went to try and play it for carlene

who's jay's assistant and runs all of this [ __ ] so they're like okay we know

listen i got a meeting dog yo turn it off phone call yo can you turn that off

please like what are you doing and get these [ __ ] janky [ __ ] cameras out of here

right like imagine that ain't no cell phones in camp you in here with a whole camera crew now granted

ahead of his time ahead of his time should have been doing that yeah but you can imagine how that comes

off in the moment yeah in that era especially but now it's like no when you're not yeah you're not

hurt yet you're not a priority you're not kind of i don't care about who you are in that era having a camera follow

you unless you're the superist of superstars was weird like but i still didn't have that i'm saying imagine walking into the office as the lower

tier act with cameras following you like fam get the [ __ ] out of here yo think about it first of all that's the

universal building they wasn't even letting everybody upstairs so you had to clear a bunch of names right call who

are you with so forth and so on so yeah i can imagine that being a thing so that was funny right

uh damn what else was funny in this i thought it was hilarious seeing the internet kill wayne oh for that take and

it's like i was i was in the clip like i was i was there i enjoyed seeing that i enjoyed seeing

like the people that were there yeah like wayno uh saw scott the

animal clue that was funny it just it just helped you get a good idea of

you know what it does too help you learn kanye differently it did for somebody i mean we know a lot of this stuff the funny thing to me is he was kind of the

same then as he is now honestly but now when you got the money and the accolades the yeah you know what i'm saying it

puts you in perspective but you see wayno in this and you just realize how hard [ __ ]

been grinding and working facts you get what i'm saying like a lot of times you might not have known that somebody was

back in the 90s dawg like [ __ ] was there and now when you see him you know what i mean propelled or in the

spotlight you'll know all of all the grunt work that had to be go into their success right you know what i'm saying

that's kind of dope also watching this thank god

music conferences are finito

they were always horrible yeah bad [ __ ] idea imagine me newly signed

[ __ ] used to artists had to fight to get to these things

fans a music conference is where they had a whole bunch of radio stations and djs either go to puerto rico or go to

philly or just wherever the location was and showcase your talent your new artist

try to get some excitement going right and these were all the different mix show radio crews so i don't know who but

i'll just name crews on top like the heavy hitters the big dog pitbulls everybody had a crew yeah so these djs

throughout the years if your crew keep getting bigger and bigger well now your dj crew is a thousand of

the uh mick show heavy rotation djs and decision makers at the radio stations

so i need to be there to talk to y'all and that was the feeling he got hey the music conference is over here

let's go i'm watching that [ __ ] saying i don't know who should be more thankful that this is no longer

the artists or the artist executives because them little drill [ __ ] will

come up there today and get that record played oh yeah oh yeah let me tell you something all

that [ __ ] that y'all used to do where y'all was manhandling us that was trying to just let you hear a record the

arrogance that was coming from you djs this dog brought me back the dj's was artists yeah at one point

well they had all the power listen man this is a [ __ ] a [ __ ] wreck and it was you know we hear the

stories of artists like waiting for the dj's outside of the radio station to run up on them and press them to make it yeah it would be a

little different with the drill wrappers they press and go i'm watching different i'm watching this thing i had to tip my

hat to mace you got to remember how old people are on their run of greatness mace pop up on

the doc say yo uh makes 20 years old whatever 20 years old word and that was a couple

years into his run with what you was doing yeah man [ __ ] better not tell me nothing

about no god damn mace man then you just think how old big he was poc was

babies kids the people that we call kids today right like i think pog pounds yeah and 95.

that's why we got to stop we gotta stop because we was whatever they're doing now

they'll be talking about this predatory shut up joe it was predatory

they was just what they were searching for was different so our represent our representation

was different or it mirrored what was going on then maybe the way what's going on now is merit

in the music not to get all philosophical here but yeah glad that music conferences are no longer a thing

excited about that uh holy [ __ ]

the importance of a diss track this brought back that [ __ ] was in route somewhere

and listening to the radio and this man back home played the diss track premiered it debuted yeah oh got to go

back to that now i'm taking my diss track to radio premiering it car you got to pull over

you got to catch this this is in real time radio airwaves

i don't know maybe i'm just nostalgic that was a big thing to me also who do we have to thank respectfully of

course always respectfully

but thank god that most def and talib didn't get that brooklyn's finest beat

what do you mean the brooklyn finest beat that wasn't the

brooklyn fighters b it was a redo of the brooklyn fighter speed that they were going to redo glad it didn't come nah i disagree

[ __ ] i disagree i disagree though

most stuff is that dude and in that era most definitely equality were on fire stop it yo

i mean it wasn't big enough stop it your butt what are we doing here you're not gonna get me to say nothing

bad about most def and tyler but that's biggie and jay on a classic

all these terrible replays we've heard over the years and that's the one nah i'm sorry i would actually like to hear that i hope it exists somewhere and

someone puts it out well that would be nice super dope and again and again

and again had a run in that era of like get by and guerrilla sumo wrap and all they made a lot of good records together

i would like to hear that everybody named mother rap don't get by and everybody ain't doing tyler did yeah i

would like to hear that truth be told [ __ ] out of you

i hear what you're saying and we're not asking ice we're not asking us we're not asking you so don't even watch it i said nothing

there's a little there's a little quote running around we don't have to stay on it but the

quote says uh y'all treat y'all treat uh andre 3 000

the way y'all should treat most deaf i disagree but most stuff should be

treated a little bit more uh respectfully i think a lot of more all right cool stuff is

that dude i agree uh you know a lot of more this is the sad part to me if he was in new york he if he wasn't

from new york he might get that praise potentially i guess he's so brooklyn

though i know like i don't know if that's even possible i don't why would it be if he's in

new york got the greats that get that praise why would that matter i think i think because he's not that style of hip-hop yeah not that style of hip-hop

new york hip-hop is not known for that new york hip-hop is known for gritty drugs street [ __ ]

if you understand like if andre 3000 might have been from new york he might not have gotten that

you know what i'm saying and again it's all hypothetical it's never could happen but you never know i think

sometimes the internet throws a question out there that's interesting enough for me to ponder most stuff is a superstar

and he chose to kind of walk away from it so i respect it but he wasn't that dude and he's a highly

highly highly underrated actor as well you guys gonna say you're also good he gets busy in that in that in that form

i just want to close out some of my observations from this kanye dock

uh him driving up the price in a bidding war or attempting to that was nice

back then trying to when he had the columbia and r or whoever that was say we've been trying to sign you perhaps capital we've

been trying to sign you for x amount of years but he couldn't convince the powers that

be that this needed to be done but we always say it here there's always one person assigned

with convincing the people that need to be convinced why this is getting greenlit the shout

out to the a r that worked for raucous i forgot what his name was but he kind of like mapped out kanye's whole [ __ ] in

that direction his career one minute segment like he saw that [ __ ] clear as day and they didn't sign over there for

whatever reason well because that person still has to go and

convince the label here the label to take a chance on raucous might still

be here had they taken that chance so let me ask you

or not you think that or not yeah or not no i was gonna say you think kanye would be the same kanye had he not

signed a rockefeller i think that was a marriage that that proved beautiful for both sides exactly you guys are

ruckus made big l go no i'm not listen to what i'm saying

if you all to help me we could body slam them if y'all help me

yeah rockefeller was influential in his trajectory sure if not for rockefeller

we might not get the diamonds are forever that's true we might not get the rihanna features and all of those great

great great songs that he put out that's true he might not have been with the just blaze going back and forth you know what i'm saying like the jay-z influence

and that played a lot in his career yeah but he was already he was production-wise he was already doing the

back and forth with justin but that was gonna happen regardless the super stardom that being aligned with

rockefeller records hottest hip-hop label around jay-z your little brother-esque

that changes at raucous let me just jump in ain't nobody at rock us doing let me let me just i mean bad albums are wet

platinum for people that should not talk about platinum though i'm not just like i'm i don't think we just said that yeah

we talked about superstars yeah you didn't have the superstars over there that you could align yourself with that

could not project push you to the next level that's all i'm saying we don't know that's a good word over there i think you guys are uh

remembering ruckus wrong who's the biggest act that was on rockets they had most they went platinum they had uh

pharaoh mush that went platinum the album didn't get pulled they had tyler quality they went platinum with the uh

or gold whatever big l they went platinum gold these are all underground acts that were pushing major [ __ ] units

could have went there [Music]

truthfully i want to rhyme like common sense but i did five mil that i ain't even been coming

like that but the thing about i wanted to jump in and kind of dead y'all argument

because both things happened which kind of led to my next point which is watching this doc

it brought back and this don't happen no more well not to my nose what happens when two different labels

work together because that is what happened both of y'all points happen

he wasn't officially signed to raucous but when rockefeller paid him zero mine it was raucous

stamping him moving him the talib show just he went on tour with tyler

he was unofficially backed he was about

and that machine was kind of doing what it was doing and it propelled him to that combination

of i got most i got to live they say complain as day in the doc my man yo you right in between you're

not rockefeller you're not dumb but you're not like you're both you're the evolution of

this so that was on full display i think he needed those relationships with raucous it molded him even if the machine couldn't take him

where it needed to the training and the artist development and what he got moving to new york or hoboken really i

don't know why they didn't shout out jerseys

but either way jersey should've got shout out did it no right we don't get respected well they put newark up they oh okay but i'm

just saying what he was going through as just a transplant i moved here it's just my beats this is what i got he did it yo

he did it yeah and like what he pulled from common what he pulled from most what he pulled from

tyler like to morph into like that's the thing that fans take for granted right

and i'm off in a kind of a rant now but [ __ ] it i'm passionate about this the the greats and we'll get to that

next what superstars exist in hip-hop because punch asked it okay

the superstars pulled from a few places absolutely and continue to do they not continue to yeah

they are not just themselves yeah but that's what anything like basketball

you steal dwayne wade step back you might watch it on film be like damn i need to put that in my arsenal you're

gonna take such and such as this you're gonna take such a such as crossover and you're gonna incorporate them into your

game making your game that much more deadly so him hanging around

talib and i'm like he said even on his first album he was like yo going on tour with tyler might have been the best

thing that ever happened to me as a rapper he says that on the first album i'm sure yo when you get into this

again i'm on just nerdy [ __ ] now like when you get into that basketball analogy

it's fun to insert the rappers and view it from their perspective that

same way right like when james harden is seen in off-season

working on some new to the side step back fadeaway baseline three that goes

in as a rapper you now gotta sit there or basketball [ __ ] now i gotta defend i

have i have to defend on it i have to go work on that i got to deal with the people that could do that like as a

rapper you listening to [ __ ] drake had to go through mad [ __ ] like i could see you could see why he couldn't get on in

0.607 with comeback season we're not on that right now you listen to what's happening out there

he had to come and when that happened then other than up now we got to go in yeah we gotta add

this now we gotta when meek was in the studio with um little

said it like yo these [ __ ] is washing me up i gotta go i gotta adapt i gotta evolve i gotta get

with the new [ __ ] yeah it wasn't no euro step back in the michael jordan days you gotta deal with that now so it's the

same thing any i think anything as evolution comes you got to kind of and there's some [ __ ] just exempt from

that like kendrick and kohler exempt from that they do although they probably take a little hint

you listen to kendrick oh i know i know i'm not saying that they don't

i'm saying they could well we know they pulled from places like i think one of the first times i've seen kendrick you might have been lying

and said yo pump it up it helped me uh learn how to write a hook i was like wow interesting you pulled that from there

like you just aren't intrigued by what they pull from where you're not saying doesn't have a traditional course yeah

he lied four minutes you know somebody the other day and i hate to make the people on the bingo cards

right like they say i say my age and pump it up at least twice every pod i really want to stop doing it but one of

these little [ __ ] sent me a drill beat from pump it up

it was hard it was hard it was i should have saved it i didn't

i kind of liked that it was hard i've been hearing a couple of the like classic records classic rap

records being flipped into drill beat like i heard um drilling mary and fabio flipped

and it's a drill b right so i'm not mad at taking our hard records it happens

yeah i ain't mad at it bro also on the dock

but we don't show crucial conflict enough love that's right always that's facts

and twister it's true trust her yeah it's true it's just true

that doc was uh refreshing to watch i can't wait to watch the other two two parts i hope that the next two parts are

are as compelling i'm sure they will be because early his story is really compelling it is

but to watch now the ascension is going to be crazy that's the part that i kind of want i

don't want to see [ __ ] i don't want to see part two i'm curious words i don't want to see what

happens when college dropout late registration because then we could start to well he has final edit so

but i don't want to see him in his tumultuous not tumultuous just his

ascension when when see here we saw the guy that was confident but timid

right we saw we saw some of the traits that exist but in a very early stage i

don't want to see it blossom fully back where it's like yeah yeah where it's like i know i'm the [ __ ] but now y'all

know i'm part three might be that i don't think part two will be there i think part three might get him there

because i think part two will be because he's about to go crazy college dropout and all of that you'll get that on the

next one i don't think part two will have that i think part three will have it because i think part two is going to

really start to show his level of genius you know what i'm saying like i think

part two is really gonna start showing this nigga's really really really gifted i just can't wait to see graduation

error was my favorite kanye era sam so i can't wait to see is donda ii a gospel album

it's got the one that wanted you yes yes yes i believe so the future is executive

producing a gospel album possible i guess so yeah i'm gonna leave it alone until more information is

revealed on this and rest in peace to donda how could i have that entire conversation and not say that that was that that was the best part of the yeah

for me for me for me i like seeing dudes with their moms yo me too i do

and i don't know if i see it enough to be honest like that's something that the women

tried to shame us out of by calling us like mama's boys and [ __ ] like that don't i'm not gonna do come on

great great uh doc all right well we got parts two and three coming up we'll review those two

for y'all so you think we're actually getting down to two tonight then no no no i i spent the car ride telling us

that it's happy baltimore day it is today is 2 22

22. and it's a tuesday that is at officially ice

and when they pull out that's you wait

i don't love baltimore but you know yeah guys just happy baltimore day well you don't love [ __ ] no

why [ __ ] the ravens i hate baltimore it's a football thing i hate cities

based on the team that's my right we're so ignorant as a people yo because look how easy it is to trick us

yo sports sports every time you got it every time

you can yeah yeah exactly great thank you fans yeah move to pennsylvania and hate baltimore yes you can right next

door this nigga's crazy i don't have a place geographically that

i hate because of the sports rivalry let me just throw that out past that i'm not way past that i used to probably think

that way but after like touring especially how many times [ __ ] just took that quick ride up to

i couldn't fam i couldn't be in new york being a cowboy fan if i hated the spot

based on the you know what i mean the competition wouldn't keep me out of normal jeans

i had no money i still went up to normal jeans no then we went to uh two o'clock no

you went with me up there right that to the other spot kevin lost

this

he walked

that's like when the [ __ ] go get surgery and they won't wear the little fire yeah lazy they will not you got to do

the post work

uh superstars and rap punch always just think of some [ __ ]

time i don't know why punch does this show i love when you do that yeah but i wish he would stop doing this

why it's a good yeah that's a question short

provoking question everything punch says is thought provoking and then he disappears like a thief in the night

that's the best way to do this he gets your brain going so now i'm obsessive compulsive

and now he just goes back to [ __ ] doing whatever he's doing in the studio him day like chilling smoking whatever they're doing yeah no i don't like that

that's the best way to do it i was not thinking anything at all about how many superstars are in rap but

fine let's go through it and he says besides uh kendrick cole

drake and nikki who is there he also made it a point to say we're not talking about your

favorite artists which fans do a lot of course we're talking about the superstars all right so did he define

superheroes what's the superstar i'm asking who has a legitimate shot at

being the next uh superstar uh you know i don't know if he said what that is okay

but this is where for me it made it tougher to figure out what and who a superstar is

back to times changing from the kanye dock right back then the only people who could get certain

brand deals were superstars right that was reserved for

top of the top yeah today that's not really the case true today if you have a

good team good management good brand everyone's getting deals all over everybody's getting deals so that blurs

the line a little bit right now back then we could easily look at the charts and

the record sales and say this person is a superstar radio spins

yeah today i don't think many people could tell us what a hit record is

true that's changed because the mediums have changed true so our metric

is changing how do you tell what a superstar is unless they make it overtly

obvious like kendrick cole drake nikki wayne kanye jay

i stopped cardi b is a superstar yup cardi b is a superstar

don't gotta think about it cardi b is a superstar um i i'm going to argue

that sorry it's a superstar no you can't argue that oh okay but i'm not gonna call cardi b i don't

know if i'm gonna say she's a rap superstar which is what he asked

i i don't know when cardi's next project is coming i'm sure it will because she tears my ass up every time i say it

won't come so i'm sure it will but i asked the cardi fans

objectively how many albums do you think you're getting from her career-wise

that's an objective question we don't even have to answer it because they might tear us apart no but i don't think but she but she is a superstar i don't

think that's a metric though he said look he put it in quote superstar and rap i think that's there for a reason

i'm never arguing carter y'all know i'm team cardi all day yeah but she's absolutely superstitious superstar in rap

nah because i don't know if i'm ready she has to be a super she's a superstar in rap because she has done nothing else

where i'm from you didn't even acknowledge people with one album in these conversations yeah but so i know i

may be outdated but i'm not calling nobody a superstar off one album and rap in rap but superstar is based on

your public appeal it ain't based on your rap cells how good you are none of that it's based on

my mother knows who cardi b is and my mother's 70 something years old i think that's what i mean i think about that's

what i think yeah but you're who you say your mother my mother knows who cardi b is okay but my mom knows who cardi b is

your mother's way if we ask either of our moms to name five cardi b songs maybe they struggle

because they know her brand her likeness her appeal i.e super stardom hey i'll

tell you like this i'll tell you real quick anybody do a write-up on cardi b do they

say rapper cardi b yeah yeah they do she's a superstar in rap joe

is that i think you'll be hard hard hard pressed to find anybody that does just

rap now in 2022 and is super super i don't even think he's saying but no but but

with cardi b and her fame stemmed from rap music she hasn't really been in many movies she hasn't you got

them saying like ludacris is

even though it doesn't sit right in my soul she say these types of things about somebody which she's a bonafide she's a

starting question she can't go outside what if she never drops out again she's still and i don't think that will happen

so i'm just throwing it out there to y'all she's a superstar don't change where she at right now she's still a superstar nigga's just crazy mm-hmm

y'all crazy though you could be a superstar and fall off no depending on what else she would do like if she just sat at home now her her

super stardom would dwindle but if she started being in movies if she started doing other [ __ ] she would definitely

keep her super stardom like if she took she's gonna understand what did you say you said if she's at

home she didn't make another hip-hop art album right i do not know that her superstar would dwindle it that hey joe

no if she didn't do anything else it would dwindle because she wouldn't remain relevant

now if she jumped into acting if she jumped into movies or some other vices or avenues i don't think her super

stardom goes anywhere let me ask you real quick let me ask you real quick are our

gyro 50c ludacris they're rap superstars they don't never

have to rap again they were still started in rap they took it and branched off and did a whole bunch of extra [ __ ] there was three names that you just said

ja rule 50 and ludacris started off as rappers became superstars

and it stopped because i don't we i do this thing a lot and maybe it ruins the pod because i'm i don't agree with it

you don't agree with that it's the people that you just named 50 cent almost went diamond twice okay

that takes him out of the point that i'm making with cardi b same with ja rule and the same with ludicrous i'm just

saying you know how many times ludacris had to sell five million records no i i don't even think john's a superstar 50

was a superstar on his first record though it don't matter how many times he didn't okay listen

i'm just saying though like what three diamond singles they were yeah and that's why i'm down to shut the [ __ ] up

right because back to the kanye dog in that time and i'm outdated

you couldn't you had to go be a superstar yo you had to go

learn to walk learn to walk in the hills learn to dance learn to dress stand in the mirror get your hands you had to

earn every pair of eyes today that's different

today the process goes different so y'all may be totally correct

it just may be uh it's a faster process yeah it's exercise because it's still

the process yeah but that's like but that's like us calling something a classic without allowing the time to pass but but still we know without the

time past joe even with it being faster we watched cardi do all everything you just named we did we watched everything

you just said we watched cardi do no we did not we did what are y'all all right she has my i started this yo i'm done i

started this which he has one album out i'd like to see what happens with the next one the other stuff the the she did

all that she said she did all that the walking the talking she's done all of that and this is a time where it ain't about albums it's about records it's

about singles and like he said she got three diamond singles this is the time we're in now because we're in the microwave society yo i

support cardi i don't want anyone out there to misconstrue my argument my position or what i'm saying you might

never get another cardiologist you will get singles let's move it forward who else besides cardi is there that would qualify for that superstar um what's the

names we had cole kendrick we're not allowed to use hove y'all would hate him y'all would hate my other

woman rapper theory um i got a lot more that i don't think is pretty easy let me ask y'all he says

curse oh yeah does [ __ ] does meg qualify as a superstar no okay i'm gonna find something for us

to talk about no i'm asking why yo i'm asked i'm not the person to answer

your question no no i'm just saying because using the same metric like can't you can't same metric tyler's a

superstar yeah tyler's superstar yeah

joe stop looking at it with 10 years ago eyes stop it you think tyler can just walk

around yo stop it yo stop it i'm not saying nothing cause i'm like wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait

wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait my mother-in-law i don't know who he is my mother won't know who he is mad people don't know who the [ __ ] tyler

creator is we hip-hop that's true superstars are trans the rap superstars now have to cross over a little bit like

you gotta look at your post malone's [ __ ] like that they have the post malone dozier cats those are superstars we

might not put rap on him so i'm cool but upset but that you have to transcend you

you can't you're just right no more yeah you got your genre today you got to blend it yeah and i

don't listen i don't know no your age your ethnicity your genre of music you have to

step outside of that to now be recognizable worldwide

conversations are difficult to have like with people that don't really have an understanding of the music industry

because we're just talking superstardom i'm not talking about sales i'm not talking about but for superstars you have to

you got to blend it a little bit you got to be a pop star baby you basically got to be a pop star pop music is popular music and i don't think you could be a

superstar in hip hop without branching over i don't think so that list would be

pretty limited probably doja and uh if you consider post malone a rapper i guess

i mean his album comes out it's in the hip hop slash rap captain well then he was asking who has the potential little baby little baby

he has the potential got a lot of work to do but he might have potential he's getting eyes

everywhere he's getting all of you he's the probably the only person i would say that has the potential to be a superstar

if if the baby could keep away from the

he was knocking on the door he might have been knocking on the door yeah i'm with you there travis travis oh yeah that's the

superstar travis saying stupid superstars can be born overnight that's what i'm hearing no nobody said

that it's not myself it has the potential to be which means with the the proper work the proper training the

proper media [ __ ] you can you can get there you travis scott no travis scott's a

superstar he's definitely there all right everybody from your kids to

travis scott i think i put him in the same group as tyler pam you can't put him in that group

we talk about star power we're talking about when you can post your festival and sell it out for hearing you're in fortnight and you're

all hold up rapper though still around my mother does not know who that is and eminem is a superstar but i don't care

yeah i don't think that

he's transcended ages in that demo like ages

your moms might not know but the i don't know one step all the way down to a six-year-old knows

that's a wide age range that knows travis scott that's kind of true i just don't know the 50s that i'm just

identifying with travis scott like that i don't know that man and they might know him and and the 50s might know him

for who he's who is his girl is his mom you know they might know him for other reasons but they heard the name y'all

might kill me no not as x is a superstar not yet he has the potential to be so

he has the potential he's not yet but he has he he has the potential to be

he does i don't know about that one i think so

because he can branch off and do mad [ __ ] like i wouldn't be surprised if i saw him most in the talk show or being

in man movies and [ __ ] like that he has the potential to be a superstar this is kind of punch's original statement kind

of goes to what joe was saying it might be over for the superstar nothing is sustainable superstars are based off

moments that last nothing lasts more than two days now when mike jackson moon walked across the stage at the motown

show that moment lasted decades that's what he was saying about this [ __ ] is happening too fast

i'm this conversation but again it's it little nas x has never sold over two hundred thousand records

uh old town wrote i don't care i don't care but little nas x has not sold over

two hundred thousand albums of a song you telling me about what keeps trying to tell who you're worried about that's

you looking at it with old eyes joe it ain't about an album no more i'm sorry it's not it don't take an album a string

of records can make yourself hate when y'all do this y'all are expressing what y'all think i'm now countering with what i think

okay there is nobody in the superstar conversation that don't sell albums like a superstar

so y'all keep telling me about today's updated microwave fast [ __ ] how many

hours no i'm not subscribing to that that don't mean you look good you don't

have to argue with me about my opinion you have to but look at the names that we all that he agreed they've all sold

albums and now all previous they're all pretty sold albums [ __ ] has changed

you cannot be i'm telling you what i think you're not a superstar if you can't sell albums okay what the [ __ ] are we talking about right now you can think

that well that's back to well if that's the case then we're throwing meg in there like ish said

cause what stops her from being a superstar if we're taking out sales she ain't sold [ __ ]

got every brand deal in the world but has also has all the backing from mad different pizza you got a lot going on

what does that happen with this brazilian pardon me it's gonna happen when you [ __ ] not a superstar because that's the game today griselda has a lot going

on there's mad artists they have a lot going on your management team got to be a whole [ __ ] company of people your

[ __ ] stylist got to be from here you got to have a team of know it all people y'all just mixing rules up

guys i'm just saying [ __ ] games changing evolve man i hate to be the one to tell you it ain't going to stay don't say

where years ago you're right but it ain't there now you still got to know how to sell a [ __ ] album when adele come out you got to move

when [ __ ] come out you got to move which is why i said that you got to be a pop star no when a superstar comes out you rescue you

mortal mere minion [ __ ] have to move nobody does that for little non-ex

nobody does that for the seven meg the stallion releases that dropped over the past two years what are we saying

the person he missed off his list is kanye well he's there already i'm just saying but that's the one that no kanye's there wayne's dead

we talking about now so we're not trying to get joe out here i'm doing that so my thing is

when you say the word superstar i agree with you now that if you are a superstar

then you should be able to move whatever product it is you're selling i don't give a [ __ ] if it was water you should

be able to sell a bunch of waters if you have superstars the superstars could try their best to drop an album and sell

under 200 000. they would fail every time and that's why i have travis there that's the one that today so i think

it's more things that encompass superstar quote unquote and i think a big big piece of that

which which is why i mention meg i don't know about her album sales right i don't know nothing about that i just know that

she's popular as [ __ ] she has superstar power if you can say meg the stallion's name and [ __ ] know who she is

that says something it's a lot of [ __ ] that move units that are nowhere near as popular as mega stallion

so that's my thing what's up [ __ ] vince staples this is an angry joe budding calling you live from the

[ __ ] joe budden podcast i hate when these [ __ ] piss me off yo what what happened what they do we

talking about superstars i'm hanging up with you and calling punch right after this we talking about superstars today

and who the [ __ ] they are and what it means i'm only calling you to ask

does a superstar have to have the ability to sell albums yes

wait no no no not today though i see what you say it depends like the reason it's not give it to me as i feel no

you want the long version yeah yes all right so look when you think about music right when you think about the

beatles and all you need is love and woodstock and these movements right what makes people be able to become

superstars think about michael jackson being on mtv and you know being one of the first black people to have a video

is by for like being able to overcome certain [ __ ] and just things in life

that can kind of parallel to music as people we became so [ __ ] desensitized

to the world around us it's going to be really hard for that music to connect in ways that it has in

the past like you think about the last huge songs we had and one of them might just be me being a west coast bias

but thinking about like [ __ ] donald trump yg and if she also being tied to that political campaign or thinking

about kendrick we're going to be all right being tied to those protests and things like that it was things jesus my president is black

what'd you say jeezy with my president is black yeah my president is black them kind of things kind of make stars

essentially because you become larger than life because you being able to attach yourself to something in the real world that's happening like i don't

think that that's we we so desensitized to life that it's impossible to happen and also the music industry is so shaky

and jaded that um when you look at how we counter albums and all this other [ __ ] it kind of makes

it impossible to let you have a tangible connection with people like what makes you a britney spears is like you know

little girls her being the focal point for these little girls to see and her change in the way that they dress the

way that they look now you can get that [ __ ] off a [ __ ] i got an instagram page so it's kind of harder to

be a superstar this boy then it kind of has ever been like when we think about our last superstars we had in hip-hop

i'm pretty sure we'll think about you know like travis scott kendrick j cole people that's that love that big

and they were still in the point of time where physical albums were a thing and if you think about like someone like

billy eilish who is you know a pop star so to say nowadays she's not someone that everyone has to

look at because the way the algorithms position [ __ ] in front of your face and the phones and things like that it's just i feel like to be a superstar

everybody got to know you whether they like you or not and i feel like the internet makes that almost impossible

see and that's where we defer because to be known

is a caveat that has to exist but you have to move products

when you said i thought you meant specifically music i don't know you meant product as well because my thing is kanye might not sell as many albums

as i don't know a little bit arguing with kanye's genius yeezys or

gap hoodies you know what i'm saying punch put superstar in rap in quotes i i hate that this question even got us

like this here but he put superstar in rap in quotes so when you say that

i think how many hey let's go by the day [ __ ] albums they're getting rid of albums right so you're right i'm old school

[ __ ] albums i see some of these other artists that people might think are superstars doing

everything in the world to push and sell certain singles i don't think the superstars have to

behave in a certain manner no not not at all not at all bro okay i had a conversation i had a conversation with

what's the matter who was today okay and they were telling they was telling me like oh you know we see you as this and as that but then in the same breath was

like make a tick tock and i'm like these artists that you name it and your goals aren't doing these things so i feel like

i feel like we we just you know it's all love i know i know why they said why they said what they said whatever but i agree with you and when we say product i

think the product goes outside of music because we think about kanye's superstarter he's not selling as many

albums as a lot of people are consistently for the past couple years but these [ __ ] ain't got [ __ ] lining up around the block

for tennis shoes and these [ __ ] aren't changing the stock price of gaps so when you say like product 100 agree i

think that the product is being is being changed that's what it can be made for me because of how the splits and music

have gotten worse over time how to keep reinvented streaming rules and things of that nature so when you walk in target and you see a billy irish dog next to

the legos like that's product that's super stardom too and it's good product placement

no but when you got meg pushing [ __ ] sauce for popeyes plus a whole bunch of other [ __ ] that's

pushing and that's not superstar for me that's not that's not but no but no no no no no no that's cool

yo joe you got a point though because you gotta think when you've seen travis scott at the mcdonald's you've seen mobs of people

so you can you can do these people in the same situation i think what joe was saying is the end result is different

out of everybody who had those fast food deals travis scott the only [ __ ] that had thousands of people in the

parking lot out of mcdonald's family they were snatching the the posters off the window stevens that's why i call you

man you have a way of articulating my thoughts better than i've ever have man but you said travis i know i i i know

exactly what you're going there but like also but what you got to realize is like everybody is like i feel like today

and when it comes to the bottom line the monetization and like the just the ownership and like just the say you have

i feel like it's harder than ever for the artist because i think we've replaced a lot of you know currency and

a lot of actual opportunities with this blinding fame monster to where if a [ __ ] gets a

certain amount of views a certain amount of instagram posts a certain engagement like it's a reason it's the reason that they put your engagements in your

breakdown before you put out album your marketing plan and they don't put you know your the breakdown of the percentage of the streams that you're

about to get they never put that in anybody's plans but they'll tell you how popular you are but they won't tell you hey by the way two months ago they

changed how much money you got paid because that they paying us in attention now so it's kind of hard for artists yeah

[Laughter] hey look man hey look man joe buddy network make sure that y'all checking

out the patreon get all your tears don't be no bitch-ass [ __ ]

give me later you know it what a guy yo

yo that [ __ ] smarter [ __ ] the future of the record business you're gonna have to deal with these [ __ ] oh no

yo these young [ __ ] is ready for y'all i'm siding with the creators yo i'm telling you these young [ __ ]

getting all this [ __ ] out of that's the other thing i left that [ __ ] kanye doc saying well yeah i'm sorry with the

creators we're looking at one of the greatest in the doc but as they just maneuvered around i'm like yo

behind yo everybody's job started with somebody's great idea

that's what i think what you mean everybody's job started with somebody's great idea yeah yeah that exists every

last one i tried all week and to debunked it debunked the theory yeah every job everyone

you could try but i know you that [ __ ] so you're gonna try but uh moving on man shout out to vince he's always a cheater

he's and i don't even need to call punch now yeah yeah yeah i don't need to he put it

right there he he hit it home yeah but yeah you got to be able to it's a

lot of [ __ ] that do pop-up shops some of them they break when they announce like

travis is partly in this bind because he's a superstar yes that's the reason why

there's a lot of things that play that's a legal thing yeah partly because yeah

people felt compelled to [ __ ] bum rush the the thingamajiggies like that's

superstar [ __ ] yo j cole i'll never forget where you're at where [ __ ] said yo i'm walking to sobs yeah

and it was a parade fam j cole could tweet right he and he still well not now that's superstar

doing that [ __ ] you'll be like yo i got a show at six o'clock at hammerstein see and that's what i mean call to action that's what i'm trying to

say yeah there's mad artist that's gonna have the brand deals the budgeting the

glitz the glamour the lights that's what the music business does it puts it on people to try to convince us certain

things about people it's our job to see through it it's like when lady london came and said

yo i heard that [ __ ] you said earlier well yeah i don't that's not what i do i don't i wait to see what's happening

same thing though same thing call to action can you get this amount of people to do whatever to

act and not to purchase buy hot sauce but anyway

you know i'm with you i think we got a concise uh yeah yeah but i just got rid of zenjo for a little bit like

and i hate that that was the topic to do it uh yo

one day we go i can't wait to see the doc about uh qc if you don't think that we not getting a

doc about quality control we need it and their run and what they've done now i

get it there's a lot of audience out there that's saying i'm on payroll because i'm doing a lot of digging up the south

why the yo gotti album what else they can't say that they're also so boyfriend oh yeah

because they know me to have new york bias when i go on these rants big enough to south that i must be getting paid ah

or we just [ __ ] with and from the kind of ice is here now that's all oh [ __ ] just makes sense no isis here yo

dawg get your [ __ ] retainer off the studio counter yeah it's gross

disgusting and then you just popped it right back in there

that and uh my last take from this because i spent

too much on the cardio doc [ __ ] walked over to the little new york vendor machine said hey y'all i got a

little guilty pleasure let me get that black tail

[ __ ] wouldn't cop some black tail you did eight dollars he was mad at the price of the black tail

yo come on how are we old yo we used to have to buy

what he was going to do with that right after the scarface session he was about to you know them mp keys is nasty

well y'all don't want to share personal experiences from the black tail or whatever you used to do go to magazine

jet beauty of the week nothing come on

you just told me the times has changed a superstar has changed i'm a dynamic oh yeah that [ __ ] all the time

now [ __ ] don't know they don't know what black tail was they don't remember when blue never mind but they

i didn't say it and i'm starting a petition to get the tinder swindler back on date naps yo

dead ass i don't like what they doing to him wendy williams it's a list it is a list

if y'all gonna do this to a [ __ ] for create for thinking of creative lies

then line the women up yo [ __ ] put donald trump on the list what you talking about a creative liar

a lot like your man big t up we just talking about the bromance aspect i'm talking anna

yeah that's my favorite show that's my girl so y'all watching these crazy shows

y'all watching these created shows of these people did you all see the real docs about these people no like anna didn't do

nothing wrong i might got some bell money for i'll give a couple your pop

i never seen a real anna i definitely am not a looking girl i've never seen her

i'm not popping a shorty from ozarks no i'm good i'll pass yo anna put some pictures on on

instagram and went out and found a little sponsor or got popular

yeah got to be careful gots to be more i enjoyed that show a lot though actually what which one because who has one in

netflix i never saw the hula one either i'm watching the netflix i'm watching that video girl i'm gonna do research before

i bring this in here no i'm not cause i'm clearly about to talk about it i'm gonna do research

before i give a take on this i'm interested in the laws and what

goings on when you can just take somebody's likeness

create a story inspired by it not really your story inspired by it

take a actor or that is clearly playing this person and what i mean is like

uh every week uh pamela anderson goes crazy about that that [ __ ] they're doing uh with uh

the tommy but i watch it it's on hulu i haven't seen that yet either and if they killing

the handyman that leaked the tape the sex tape that's that's what it's all about got it but they're not in support

of this we've seen that again recently somewhat this is happening i feel like we've had

this discussion before it's like how do the people that these shows and docs are about get anything out of this [ __ ]

no right evidently no if you go through the proper channel then you purchase the life rights or the

story from someone i'm sure it is some paperwork there i don't know if y'all know leave it in the comments please help but

when you don't and you go through fair usage and the legal loopholes which most people probably are saving

luck well yeah and then that gets even trickier because like you said the anna one there's one on hulu and netflix

the one on hulu's name something pretty funny but they do that a lot where they'll take the same story and now just

have to the fiery festival yeah but yeah yeah nothing one person

paid and one company didn't takachi doc same thing

every i would like to learn more about the powers how people can protect the

rights of their likeness so that more people are not uh millirocked

i hate that that's a term for me but it is

because that's nasty it is i agree you wake up one day turn the tv on and sometimes white boy playing parks

i'm gonna be tight whose name is [ __ ] some [ __ ] the darks i'll be tight well this is back to our

uh snowfall and um ricky ross but they modified some of the stuff on

freeway ricky ross to differentiate it because we'd be liking the [ __ ] true

this anna [ __ ] is i don't know if she's getting paid i hope she's getting a check probably not but we don't know

and the other thing about the tinder swimmer i'm moving on i'm moving on i'm moving on but if i call you and say yo

i'm in a bind i need a hundred grand real quick and you give it to me so what that the buying wasn't really the bind

no i'm lost on that vine's a relative i just needed a hundred grand [ __ ]

[ __ ] you talking about [ __ ] i might have needed a new sweater so i mean my bond you might have needed to how many

times shorty hit nate and said she was in a bind

yeah zen joe's just out the window it's gone you tried you tried

i'm mad that such a a low-hanging fruit topic got me out of that hey of that's a

superstar and who cares that's my beef whip punch

and i'm not trying to get deep here but back to america's underlying issue

only certain [ __ ] is able to lie and that come the bow and dock i'm going to the bone dog that's where i'm at the

ball where's that netflix netflix okay the boeing dock it's about boeing the company

airplane company airplane company long storied history of engineering

greatness yeah the airplane companies yeah it's them airplane

of airplanes they sold them they invented them uh they brought the world closer

together allowing people to travel internationally all of that right

so where's the entry and then well i'm connecting this because the

the tinder swindler is not is not allowed to be a liar

anna is not allowed to be a liar

but the sackler family totally allowed if we can buy the rights

to lie boeing another shining example

if you did not see this please go watch it long and short of it is big business and classism and let's cut

corners now to save some money and to make some money and generate profits so everybody on the board could get their stock

options and you know same [ __ ] it's the same [ __ ] but i mean you should see how long the the

blueprint has been there right so boeing

started cutting corners and a plane crashed and killed mad

people and then shortly after that a few months later another plane crashed

and killed mad people and then it was family that they ignored and so forth

and so on and they get into this coding consumer-facing consumer-facing trick that they did

where they had to build a new plane to keep up with airbus who was busting their ass on

the more fuel-efficient plane if you can save money on the fuel you kick an ass airbus starts to [ __ ] shoot up

boeing instead of coming out with a new plane just makes their old plane more fuel efficient

and it works the idea so they start cutting more corners when new ownership comes

they start firing all the people that's been there for a million years and they start to compete but in their

competing they totally get rid of the business model that they built their [ __ ] off which is we don't cut corners

excellence every whatever whatever problem exists you bring it to the forefront we pay attention to it now

you were punished and shunned if you brought a problem there because we're covering [ __ ] up so they start mass

producing these [ __ ] cheap planes

you all right but anyway by the end of this dock

by the end of this dock they talk about how nobody's been arrested

nobody's been to jail boeing was allowed to just pay some inorbital amount of money some large what was it

uh what was it something alex's it was a lot of money and business was

allowed to go on as seems to be the way the usual capitalist world i'm trying to figure out where the

shock come from yeah the shot the shock comes

from all of the different instances or scenarios or predicaments

that you learn how much we don't give a [ __ ] about human life like all of them like yeah we

it's real easy to see when a cop shoots somebody or it's real easy to see when spotify

won't play the artist get the [ __ ] out here we don't give a [ __ ] with you that little mcas thing that they

explained which was just a signal it's a little thing on the side of the plane that is

supposed to level the nose in the event that the wind gets to when it's going up i'm not engineer i don't

know but it's just supposed to level the plane and in this mcas [ __ ]

it was uh it was broke okay so as it would go the pilot is trying to

restrict it but the this aircraft is designed to do something is broke [ __ ] crash they blamed it on the pilot can

you imagine a pilot or can you imagine a [ __ ] pilot's brain you blaming this

on me cool it took the second crash to happen where the pilots did exactly what they

said should be done and everybody still died and as the details came out you learned

that in the second crash the pilots had like a 10 second window to fix the problem that they were never

taught how to fix like boeing didn't they went up to the pilots association

screamed on them [ __ ] didn't teach them how to do nothing they changed the system so they made it like

the new plane and now in this here they made it like the new plane had the same

they were trying to save money by not teaching the pilots how to do this [ __ ]

because you save a lot of money right correct so they put the old system under underneath internally in the plane

no a new system but old interface so now you save money the pilots don't

have to uh learn this [ __ ] even though there's new mechanics in here that you have to learn and life was lost and that's the end

nobody went to jail yeah that's a long way of saying that but just who's allowed to lie why you're

allowed to lie and how much it costs to lie it's just interesting to me it's it's

always to me i don't just none of this is different yeah you make you you pay the cost if you got enough money you can

buy your way through anything that's your freedom stop yes none of it is different you're absolutely right i'm not i'm talking

about as we age we learn how many different industries

this is relevant everything everything bro but then you learn how it's done and you learn just

all the people when that are complicit for this stuff to work but you know if you look at it it's depressing and when

you look at it it's never racked my brain to think of boeing and right it's usually the same

this isn't everything and it's usually the exact same you just pull out the product and insert a new product it's

the same story every single couple of the players be the same couple of the players they're playing you got some people in

the government yeah paid to look the other way paid to write some laws that benefit you paid to let you out of this correct that's all

it is there's all this ever it's gonna continue to be that until they get corporate funding out of politics but

that's a whole different conversation for a different day how are you going to do that like exactly i don't know

so this is not a political podcast but like anna was a german or russian

broke girl if she would have had some political backing or some real financial backing she would have walked away free

too or if she'd got some or she was this close dog [ __ ] i'm trying to make her my digital

marketer no boys yo she was this close fam from having

zero money to a 40 million dollar bump and was gonna build one of the best [ __ ] we ever seen in new york city yeah

that's crazy i don't think just offer reputation naivete is something i thank god for a

lot right ignorance i don't know how many of us would enjoy football the way we do and some say

we're not supposed to if we knew what really went on to putting the product into putting the product on the field

i just don't know right same here you just don't think of some of the things that have to take place

for us to get some of our greatest inventions we were kind of having that conversation a round of applause for me

i'm an amazing [ __ ] podcaster i'm dope yo don't say nothing

on the way here we were talking about ymw mellie and how it's over reports are out that

there's new evidence that says that he did what they said he did

which was murder his two best friends and put them in the trunk and then make a song about it

let's not use this opportunity to get to should lyrics be used in court please no horrible example right now

but and you shouldn't say this this is horrible to say

rest in peace to the victims of this crime and prayers condolences and to the

family the families of this crime but the song in question

is a great [ __ ] song yo yo please don't crucify me internets

rest in peace combat jack that's a great song yo

now should it be great or is it any less great knowing that

some of those things may or may not have occurred and that this stems from a real place in a true

event i don't know the answer to that because who i am as a human and who i am as a

music lover are two different people i'm clear on that i could get hyped to some [ __ ] that i

don't support as a human maybe that's part of the problem in

music and maybe i'll get better and evolve even more as a person it's more it's

more than music great point actually we talk about it in different facets all the time we talked about it in clothes

the [ __ ] that goes on behind closed doors at these fashion houses but we still support this [ __ ]

good food it's everything it's everything around you when it becomes a capitalistic issue the money that is

made will justify the [ __ ] that goes on behind closed doors to make the bread

you know what i'm saying like whether it's airplanes drugs food clothes music

there's just always a dollar at the forefront and so we'll put up with some [ __ ] that happened behind closed doors

for great music or great food or great clothing or great transportation

last week ice asked asked a question and he said

what studio sessions would you like to have been present for like what songs

and we all threw out our purple reigns our do i do's our beatles records right we did all that or eminem kim are

i didn't say that but i did i'm with you right but we left the pod

and it's like a bag of bricks hit me on my head i said holy [ __ ] yo what a trick

question that was because i almost can guarantee that some of the best studio sessions

ever to exist a bad song was made from it

okay i think some of the bad sessions had more fun oh yes

more great had better chemistry conversations women food yeah instrumentalists because the

bad song they tried to fix a few times too yeah the good songs like they have some good

[ __ ] in there i might have wanted to see some of the bad sessions that's it just my quick quick thought another quick thought no i

saw the uh xxx's question album is the most streamed hip hop album on spotify of all time

rest in peace triple x hey hey all right sorry i don't know that to be true i'm not

sure i did

which previously was the you know that's how you know we've lost too many people

i don't know who's my favorite out of the people that we lost yeah it's getting harder

i have no idea xxx was my guy because he was just so different and

pockish to me and just he had the mind like i spoke to him academics put him on the phone with me i spoke to him a few

times like he had the mind and the mentality and he was and he had the fan base

the fan base was just going to grow like they was about to get bonkers them [ __ ] yeah

pop smoke i feel like that's how i feel about pop and nip nick was right there yeah it was all happening

after years and years and years and years of being a like a underground damn nail artist it was finally happening and

that's when you learn that's when you really learn that time is your inventory and your only true

inventory because when you think about all those things and you think about what you got planned like

sucks to just die with plans yeah like i had plans

i had [ __ ] that i was about to get out there and do i had [ __ ] in the workshop time to take six months get my team over

and you just ah no you gotta you gotta go while you're here

you got to get it you can't like procrasti what is procrastination

ish well we know but that's you procrastinate but that's that's terrible

it is but it's from privilege you do get busy when it's time to get

busy though yeah but my back got to be against the wall that ain't the problem with procrastinators that's disgusting it

don't speak to the work the work that you do when you do it right when you're gonna do it

yeah i do also know people that perform better with their back against the wall yeah it's terrible though

that's kind of like i kind of agree with you it's a little privileged though because

you can actually afford yourself to get to your back against the wall because you know you could get it done you know yeah against

the walls disgusting but yeah you know what bothers me today right as i think about time being your

inventory and wasting time and what you should be doing versus what you are doing and all those like mature holistic

thoughts that you have when you're alone and never again right

every second of my day like or just sometimes i think of

yo if tomorrow was the last day i got at least 500 people i need to call did i ain't spoke to an agent

yep it's a real just came out i don't know if you saw it it's a dude he's like yo i think it's 84. he said yo you had 84 600 every

single day deposited in your bank account but you had to spend it or you couldn't it wouldn't carry over

to the next day how much of it would you spend and that's how he prefaced it right and he's going through going through and

they broke it down in the seconds like yo we get 84 600 seconds every single day and what the [ __ ] is sleep like what

the [ __ ] is procrastination etc etc we don't use that [ __ ] it's never coming back so you

got to use it to his utmost of you know potential right so that you could create a better life for yourself and the [ __ ]

was kind of deep it [ __ ] me up cause you know i'm lazy and always late no he's procrastinating but

no that was a good one so to you know piggyback on what you're saying that [ __ ] is real people you haven't spoken

to things you just put off i've been trying to do that this year though just take more time to talk to people me too

the random call to the person i love and would be highly upset if we couldn't speak anymore yeah yeah or the random

hey what's going on what's popping what you up to same [ __ ] work see and you know what i learned like when you start

calling those people it'd be a quick talk it don't even a couple jokes laughs

jokes yeah not some this call don't normally pass the five minute mark yo

and that's when you really get into just the selfishness of humans and human thinking and just

you only have three minutes to call your [ __ ] watched or shoot

whatever the other side of that is because you're saying procrastination i think the other side of planning

sometimes you're playing some [ __ ] thinking like i got this i got time you good i'm saying it's selfish there too

like i might put some [ __ ] off till friday not necessarily procrastinating it's in the plan yeah like me i try i

know how i am about time i try to plan everything but what if it's over no but for me i'll

plan it till wednesday then wednesday come on be like yeah give it to friday

yeah saturday morning the only thing is just you just got to live in the moment that's really it living in the moment

got me [ __ ] you get paranoid if you really think y'all know my driver is a slow driver right then they can be passing them a

little gas gas trucks on the highway it's almost like he's trying to stay right with him he'll speed up yeah he

tried to stay next to the gas the gas truck that i know to be a moving bomb

is a 80 000 pound missile any one of them no matter what's in it i'm riding bottom riding by that [ __ ] i'm like man let me

call my kid joe cause this thing you just see don't give a [ __ ] it's crazy you say that i was on my way to your house today and i'm following behind a

car carrier he got suvs on it and i'm watching this [ __ ] like they just anchored the little wheels in there but

yo that's a little ass thin piece of [ __ ] mesh that's holding it right bunk i was

thinking about bad boys too when they was throwing cars off the should i say of this bad boy 2 final destination listen we

was joking around outside off mike and i was saying that i'm such a [ __ ] i've gotten myself in so many of these

horrible situations that i'm shocked that i'm still here uh still here in one piece right and god

has saved me for myself man times right i can't tell you how many times driving is why i'm driving the more driving

i'll drop the phone go get it i'm going to get and go get it i'm going to get it

on the bridge no i'm going to get in the rain that's why i gotta be one of them no uber driver things no you know i had

to understand what i'm saying i'm done you know old people they're done looking

looking in the rear view when they reverse they just come out yeah like when the phone dropped i'll just not look at the road

i'm getting that phone yeah you gotta get the uber hey you gotta

some [ __ ] where you just about to die the little water bottle fear i'm getting my right out yo it's so many times i

think the [ __ ] driving behind me i see you you get busy cause you could have [ __ ] up yeah

people didn't mean to get me right out here what a [ __ ] in front of you who ain't slammed on his brakes

thank god i thank you my [ __ ] you word is boring you slam on brakes in front of me i'm following you

i don't play them stop short games get off get off my ass pause i'm not sure i'm not on your ass break check i'm

not on your ass because that's the first sign of a bad driver if you on somebody ass you can't maneuver that's you can't

get around to driving going on never on your ass you need reactions but if you are annoyed by my driving behind you

and you stopped short it's up let me ask you a question what do you do

you don't drive now we're breaking down driving what the [ __ ] are we here somebody behind you we don't have to hit you with

the high beams

sometimes i could be driving and i'm in my zone like i could just be thinking about some other [ __ ] and i'll look up

and i'll really be doing 70. right i'm gonna get over yeah he telling me to get the [ __ ] over i'll do

that you just get over yeah guys this is one of those two minute topics i just asked the questions and you know

what helped me stop doing that like what we talking about like i ride with my mom and

like when you're older like a truck might bother you a light might a horn might bother you different

like so i i try to be mindful of that as i bug out behind people because you could really [ __ ] up

somebody's concentration while driving a [ __ ] could just be having a [ __ ] up day right you really don't know what is

going on in somebody's life dog and you the light just turned you're in a rush you long horn a [ __ ] like [ __ ]

just got out of [ __ ] up alex pull up that really nasty horrible horrific uber story yo

[ __ ] which one yeah it's a bunch of those or maybe it was lyft uh with the young lady who was viciously

murdered uh she picked the dude up pleaded uh pleaded for her life said yo i got four

kids come on not today please she was the driver she was she was a driver she was driving the uber picked up a

passenger he pulled out on her that drive she said y'all have four kids

he said i got a family too murdered her for what

nothing you want me to ask him oh i don't know if they think it might have been disclosed like what he was trying to write a

here it is calvin crew 22 22 come on man no we don't want an uber driver yeah

nigga's a [ __ ] murderer and a criminal get [ __ ] out of here

an uber driver and mother of four pleaded with a passenger for her life before he shot and killed her in an attempted robbery this month

calvin cru i'm gonna say his name need to know that's disgusting 22 was arrested and charged february 17th with

criminal homicide robbery and tampering with evidence in the death of christina

spakusa 38 who was reported missing by her family six days early after she did not return home following a shift of

uber fears rest in peace to christina this is

she already don't probably want to be even driving a [ __ ] uber yeah you know what i'm saying you're a single mother i don't know she's single but

you're a mother of four so the finances are a little tapped or hard at least you're driving an uber

to put food on your kids table and a 22 year old [ __ ] you able body go get a [ __ ] job

yeah oh they got the dash cam filming yeah that's how they got the questions i know that's how they got the quotes like yo

she's pleading with the [ __ ] like come on please i got four kids i just bring it up to tell people to be careful out

here not only be careful but to be mindful right because

typically we're careful when we're mindful but there's a lot of interactions today

where you just wouldn't think to even be mindful you know how many times you just call an uber to run somewhere

like a lot of our interactions today deal with strange strangers

i tell my female friends all the time like yo dog y'all gotta watch how y'all talk to men

because women don't they'll just run off at the mouth to a dude like yo in a club like if he touch your ass just walk away

we've been saying that for about 30 40 years no i'm just saying but that [ __ ] don't yo girls will run up on the [ __ ] like [ __ ]

dudes out here today will choke you smoove out or knock you out you got to be careful when you you know what i'm

saying girls be cursing the uber dude out they be putting it on the gram them telling the uber dude off

yeah stop doing that dumb [ __ ] like yo that [ __ ] ain't funny i'd be disturbed when i

see that yeah like yo fam but this is uh this is just extremely extremely disturbing heartbreak again

rest in peace to this young lady and just be present possible outstanding please

overall and present cognizant aware that's important in a time where most of

us are just glued to our phones right like yeah real easy to get caught up did y'all see

the [ __ ] the other day with the dude uh he was at dinner with i think two or

three of his homegirls and so people were being disrespectful to the girls you saw it

people was being disrespectful to the girl so the dude asked them to chill out so they walk outside there's three dudes

and it's against him oh and he beat the brakes off for all three dudes beat the [ __ ] out of all three of them

in the snow hit the first one he sat down for the whole rest knocked him out he was yeah he was asleep and got up and

fell again and then after he finished it he tapped him by the lift him up by his jaw and hit him again

that's what we need man we just need more [ __ ] beating y'all ass look at that advice no then we could fam

that [ __ ] do that because they don't fear nothing happens that's exactly how somebody died you went outside you beat three people up now one of them [ __ ]

go to the car they pull up no no no no joe but you went you at dinner it's you toy

ash like homies you with the you at dinner with the homies [ __ ] being disrespectful

to them and he like yo chill they walk outside and they said that they showed a video

from once they got outside they show the whole video took his belt off trying to smack like yeah the dude took he had a stick one nigga's had a split yep i'm

trying to leave the topic you know this guy's not leaving recipes black is stand uh m.c from connecticut passed

away this past weekend i'm not sure i'm sure we must have done a show with him at some point

he's from he's from connecticut area uh new england area yeah i bet i do know him yeah you probably do how do you pass i'm not sure

dope mc it's [ __ ] world rapper yeah rest in peace

and rest in peace if you listen and lost a loved one out there y'all made it too sad i gotta let the bridge play yeah

i want to know who came up with this bridge like who put this [ __ ] here in paul's the session what a bridge that's a

session i would have liked absolutely no question outstanding ice you really think that john

and i'm not a star is not the same song honestly no explain explain it to me it's like

when people say uh m.c hammond bmf for the same song same beat same type of record but it's not the exact same song

it's not the exact same song but it's the same [ __ ] that's all i said dawg is that what

you're saying that they made a couple of changes yeah

[ __ ] that's the same [ __ ] song same lyrics i'll tell you this with a wayne verse from jail and them

repeating some [ __ ] they took something made it a hook like it's a little it's a they made a different record out of it now we'll

give you the same beat energy look i will give you this

when the record first leaked it was listed as the remix i remember that

it wasn't called john it was i'm i'm not a star remix ice you are too savvy of a music mind

too damn i'm even mislead fan don't misutilize your platform by telling them

yo they made a change they've switched up [ __ ] [ __ ] wrestling same [ __ ] i told you

about bmf and mc hammer play both of those you you can hear the similarities they're not the exact same song

i'm telling you it's not like when you did uh it's not the same beat i'm not gonna put

those two records teflon dawn is arguably going that's one of the greatest phases of my life you know

teflon dawn that's a great error

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move on yo come on let's move on uh let's do a part of the show yeah let's do it this is what i have for you

guys this week it's really short quick and to the point shorty says

of course i got rid of it because i'm the first spotter in the world [Music]

i can paraphrase though i don't need the room this is about uh we're all familiar with catfish correct

correct being catfished on the internet someone maybe uses a picture that's not really them and

and she says you got it okay not chrissy which that name sounds familiar and i'm

scared of all women named chrissy wait that's that's the username yes i think i know who that is good yeah but i'm still

scared of all chris's chrissy says or not chrissy says i was dick fished once

like catfishing is this common

i want to call her yeah she said that to four [ __ ] though how would we know if it's common

we can't talk about that's why we gotta call her well i could tell you how she might she why she would ask for dudes that's all i'm saying

i'm gonna tell you why you got it my [ __ ] cause if whoever the dude is that did that to her had to know he was doing

it so she's asking dudes hey is this something that y'all would do probably so i get the question the answer is no i

don't know how to work this little 5c we got all right here we go all right let's call chris this wi-fi

call will be charged as per your international plan i'm rich he continues please hold on

charge it to the gang get it back in blood

my [ __ ] won't get it back in blood if i took him hello hi man speak to chrissy please this is

the joe budden podcast calling it's me

it's me

australia oh [ __ ] australia what part yeah it's like seven a.m

oh it's tomorrow morning good morning how do y'all say good morning uh ahoy

good night mike

good night are you are you alone are you alone right now speaking to us can you speak

freely yeah i can speak freely everyone's at work okay okay beautiful so your

question to us is i've been dick fished before

like catfishing is this a common thing

would you like to tell us more about your dick fishing experiment they sent the wrong dick

they sent a different this is wild no you have to chris you have to stop

laughing and tell us the brownie for breakfast

christmas where are you guys

a room of four men would be able to answer the dick fishing mystery

well anytime i send it it's a real dick this is my [ __ ] yeah with veins

like it's dangerous because some people like you know they

use filters and everything like that and you know wait i can't so when you throw my dick

kept putting no valencia on it no [ __ ] where you think that's dicks you men can't be trusted you guys cannot be

trusted i you talking to this guy for a year

a year because he lived in another country and he was supposed to come

yeah this was a while ago he got booked and everything like that yeah anyway he sent a picture

and yeah and then when he arrived

you went to suck on some [ __ ] and it was different there's a different klondike

so you paid for them to fly out there for no reason and i couldn't stop laughing and the

poor person like paid for their flights and everything damn did you sleep with them

tell the truth come on tell the truth did you sleep with dude

you did not have somebody come to your country you don't lie in a wee brownie yo

where was it gonna go in my ear yo this is body shaming

[Laughter] how did you get rid of them

okay so i sat there and i said i was hungry and everything like that took when to go eat

and stuff like that and all of a sudden i said oh [ __ ] my cousin um broke his

leg no you did not have a dude come from out of town can you text us a picture of you

and also and it's not just that it's not just

that that was the biggest moment and it's not just that so the biggest moment came from

in boxes and a lot of guys were in inboxes too and us girls have a group chat and yeah

you guys have to like be honest i'm going to defend the men the only way that you can know many men

are dick fishing is if you see many dicks

and excuse me

listen i'm a head out i hope that this young man is not listening

oh my lord yo i hate when women do that they weaponize the pod dictionary to

shoot to shoot at their ex to the bot and he beat them let's be clear

yo dude i apologize wherever you're at yeah don't apologize to him he beat him yeah but he got to be body shamed

and publicly humiliated like [ __ ] ain't enough of a prize for you to drag me through the mud for the next

however many months that's crazy she's going up here yes it is but don't nobody know who the [ __ ] is that [ __ ] trust

me he lands going to work getting laughed exactly yeah they might be like i don't remember when he went to australia actually yo

fam did you go to australia to meet some chick out there remember that

[Music] um sorry we couldn't help with that one yeah yeah

look i thought she was saying something else because i had something happen to me before pause um friend of mine share your experience

friend of mine she was like the wrong technique yo why do i have a picture of your dick in my

phone and i'm like and mind you she's she's only deals with women and i'm like pam you don't have a

picture of my dick on your phone she's like somebody you [ __ ] with showed me a picture

promise you you don't ain't this you she said she's a dick no she's i'm right next to her at the time

was at a bar ain't this you i was like no so whoever is passing that around is not

me did you have to look close to make sure that's what i say when my [ __ ] was sleep shut up

you beat she was a um she didn't deal with guys i didn't beat

a woman to take a small dick if you just kiss them a lot

snake is so stupid you have to distract them you can't you can't let them

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i told you call somebody else yo chrissy wasn't that fam chris he's gonna hear that he goes

nah topic wasn't we couldn't expound on the topic oh y'all might be able

yeah i can't explain y'all

don't say y'all who still sends a dick pic dude like i

won't right like sometimes you go in your camera roll or me

sometimes you go in your camera roll right all right yo see nothing but dick stan

[Laughter] you had zero to say about i say rashad but me

man commentary a lot of commentary

i know now you're not thinking and praying you're not thinking of praying no you go through your phone tell me how i pray

see my dick in there but it was like from it was like from one of the old it was old it was an old

pig but the lighting that day like you know i smashed that [ __ ] out the park you'd

be wanting to send that as a new one like nah look at my [ __ ] like that but they they check the dates they do the

same [ __ ] checking the dates to see if that's real-time dick damn

it's disgusting out there yo fam they do the same thing you ain't never look at the pictures oh this [ __ ] was from 2016.

she said yeah i know because she you could tell when a date because you think she kept the same diet

[ __ ] fat now [Laughter]

yo that's my favorite thing to do looking at these shapes i like oh i like 12 2017

he was going crazy all right come on i got it i got some

money come on

shout out [ __ ] they brought mixtapes back man i like what's that screaming i'm not sure what

the dj was shut up i just thought we just watched tyler jim jones a bunch

of fat joe do these albums with drama and we're not gonna say that bringing the dj back screaming on the record and

all that he didn't bring that back just watch this happen that's all but this is like over beats

that exists before i'm talking about that era of mixtape like taking instrumentals and going crazy over them

okay uh he should be putting it on okay it brought me back to an era

it's different it's different than an industry yeah i'm in a round of applause for that for what parks is

saying i can never [ __ ] on that that's that's beautiful uh i wish that were better mixed yeah i

mean that's which is which is my issue with my catalog and just mix tape stuff yeah

and who owns that uh i don't know that's a good question why it's on deadpoof

baby so ain't nobody on it maybe so i'm not gonna take this deep go

ahead yo get your [ __ ] off see all that [ __ ] is cool when y'all on

it all right it's cool for the reo that piff yo you screaming over this [ __ ] for promo use go to jail oh [ __ ] the baby

hobo you rapping on that now that's cool now but where we at now like that was cool then but now i don't want my brother to waste

his time on nothing that he can't own or nothing that won't be a brand builder i understand why that got phased out but

they gonna stop tricking us hold on joe hold on hold on hold on and all this because it's just like it's just like

when when we saw um i believe it was rowdy saying that he couldn't put nothing out and meek said yo do mixtapes

like sometimes if you're in a position where i can't get an album out i don't have this proper situation i want to still keep some type of buzz

going about me that might be the way to go stop it it might take mixtapes back to promo only stop it you know he's

right he's not ready i am right and if you put out a dope enough mixtape you could tore off that

oh my goodness yes you're right go ahead he's got album come like this week this is yeah for me

was promo only and i agree with you this is time to the album i think this is shady i think it's his last this is live because he

left shady and griselda yeah so we don't know yeah i don't know where he's where he's moving i think he said actually in one

of the songs he's got uh some projects coming out in empire and yeah so we don't know we don't know you

know you got it go ahead that's what you got for us i was gonna play some rap [ __ ] but uh who owns

all the music that that pif has ever uploaded well it's i i i'm sorry i know

that i'm grumpy and just complain about [ __ ] no you have the right to because you have a bunch of dip well i was just

having this conversation within right they were talking about the best storytelling songs so i guess ian scene and my name was

there a lot three sides of the story he's got some great idea with three sides he has a few of the joe joints up there i only got talk about that but uh

three sides of story i got some great ideas y'all want to talk to who wants that record the mixtape record

so who wants it okay you not understand what i'm saying mixtape means

for promo use only right it means nobody owns it

nobody can own it even if you bought the beat cleared the sample did whatever you did yeah you own it but the mixtape

so nobody owns it nobody does not let me just finish this point so yes this is cool i'm not being the

killjoy guy this is that's a part i come from this i come from this as a fan i

love to see [ __ ] do this today we say it all the time here with more education like we learned a little

more now i want people to own that's an original composition that he did those words

that those are his words the second we put it on death pith the second is over this other beat like and for somebody

who's already clearly talking about his label issue i'll go ahead yo go ahead so all that blue [ __ ] from back in the day

don't know my own no no it's some of our greatest hip-hop

hip-hop heads yes some of our greatest i got a question hold up it falls to the

[ __ ] wayside never to be heard from again because it's not profitable there's nobody pushing it nobody owns

this nobody cares about it it's like albums get the [ __ ] out of here somebody has to work this stuff we were screaming on

universal recently yo dog who's working pump it up i get a piece what y'all think it ain't

supposed to be worked cause it's 20 years old no sit go push that send me my [ __ ] no

business has to be involved they can't keep tricking us with the look visibility promo and get hot

i'm triggered so i'm handling this differently but the [ __ ] out of here man i had one

question one question for you because i remember you and i don't know how this

went that's why i'm asking when you did move music two and three you did the mixtapes and you did the

albums was there any different was it like one sold did y'all do anything well yeah there's

a difference the street is black market so i mean try to keep count of whatever you did in the street

versus your album same thing and label do now we this is a category this is

revenue stream this is a legal process this is these are two different routes but i'm saying this with with three

sides to a story appearing on the album version as well wouldn't someone then own it to put it on the album version

well no you're going to say that you own it and if somebody has a dispute yeah

they will say which there certainly will be i got off a mixtape okay now i didn't know how that worked with that but with those type of it just kills me

right like again i come from this most of my catalog i can't listen to

because it comes from this and it's just they're gonna push it to the side

because we got other [ __ ] going on we got other ways to trick juke the system eps lp we got enough get that mixtape

[ __ ] outta here that's what they doing and see that's the reason why i love what wayne is doing and i mean it's wayne he can do that but

he's one of those that thrived in the mixtape era and went back and are now clearing and

streaming and selling the mixtape true like people there's some classics for me

i see people every day telling j cole yo we need friday night lights yo in the future if artists cannot get the rights to

their mixtape stuff or like figure out a way to get to own their mixtape stuff

artists are just going to snatch every acapella off of all of these shits and put it somewhere somehow some way

where they can own it and actually be the beneficiary of what's to come from it as it should

as it should yeah but it's an uphill bat we already oh man get me out of here sleepers there you go go ahead go ahead

go ahead go ahead i know you're gonna say like in your particular instance you're doing that [ __ ] whatever in someone's basement or

whatever the [ __ ] it was and the sessions don't exist no more and there's a million hurdles yo with all

that we know today you would think 90 of creators realize the importance of ownership but they do

not so i mean i'm talking to the the deaf guy like it matters nothing

and i'm sure that that was helpful for him but listen to that this is what irks me the [ __ ] shared some super intimate

details about his career and things he was going through about depression his record label he's shared some of the

honest most honest [ __ ] you ever heard from him and it ain't his that's a problem for joe grumpy joe's

shutting up zen joe's backing [ __ ] off and yeah that's that might have been the only way he could get that out because

which is a problem no i'm with you i'm gonna hold you a hundred percent that's a problem because when the label control it no we're not no that's the same thing

bobby schmurger i'm saying exactly it's the same thing that nba young boys like how many [ __ ] have to say it before

anybody out there wakes the [ __ ] up and i hate when 40 year joe 40 year old joe starts championing [ __ ] that sounds like

it's against what oh joe did but [ __ ] it that ain't right

that pith probably old [ __ ] a lot of money now i think about it now that i think about it class action

suits in the future for a lot of y'all well which is why a lot of um i just read this whole a lot of people

taking [ __ ] off that piff i just read this whole article about how in the film industry like the main composer like

hans zimmer or some of these people that you'll see in the movie they have a whole team of people that actually write the [ __ ] they're kind of like a ghost producer okay and i'm not sure

there are some that they call out by name that don't do it they do everything themselves but a lot of them have like a team but

it was talking about the fight that uh they're having with like netflix and all these companies that are on some you

know we're just startup company and they don't pay out revenues they just pay out a flat fee to all these composers for

the use and the [ __ ] meanwhile they're making 24 billion dollars a year [ __ ] is [ __ ] up so i'm just saying

that to say that with that pif with with netflix with spotify there's going to be a big reckoning one day of everyone

coming back for their [ __ ] right it's like i told you with that yo you've seen it all these tech companies like

everybody using people [ __ ] willy nilly that they're supposed to be paying royalties on there were there were

mixtapes that you can't find on that pitfall more and i don't mean just like old from the 90s i'm talking about

classic 2000 tapes you go there now they cannot stream cannot cannot download

been removed been removed by the uploader it says that a lot yeah so i don't know what's

going on with that but it's something in there you know what's going on it's back to our tv rights conversation somehow it correlates like just ownership and music

i was playing an insta story insta story with a song playing [ __ ] [ __ ] popped right up yo this video is

blocked in mad country is anybody watching this dude you don't own this you don't own this you're not talking over it what are you doing playing you

can't play this on insta live yeah i've seen a lot of people typing it in there i do not own the rights to this music like you have

to put that out there to let them know listen ownership of music and rights is

going to play a more important part in the future than we've seen it play in the past in the last in the last 10 years since

the tech boom you know what i mean all that [ __ ] is going to come around all that [ __ ] is going to come around i

think marvin gaye will be coming back for this everyone got everybody coming back

anyway i'm sorry all right and and i say that you're the guy to

turn things serious but it's the splash but that was back again you know they can't [ __ ] with us

just put me in sure they can't never [ __ ] with you yo the dude's name is jeremy pope uh song is worth a million

all right yo turn this off for a minute

turns off a minute what well you can work on giving your dudes better intros

well this [ __ ] there's a [ __ ] named jeremy and this is fire thick places

no if you say jeremy pope man i just sat here jeremy listening though and they'd be uh that's

the moment that's a big moment jeremy pope you caught one and we

playing it [ __ ] it was fire enough yeah air holding them up it better be dope

too it's plain to this tote it got the ish

stamp on it you heard irvington we here i'm not from irvington orange we're here man newark somewhere

brand new music worth a million brand new music jeremy pope yes jeremy you

want to get an r b back sometimes no no i'm not all right with that [ __ ] nah it's threw that [ __ ] on going to check his mail

at the p.o box nah that's a p.o box slapper right there

lady classic oh man this is that dude i love you bro oh crazy all right so we

getting the [ __ ] out of here man great part hope you all enjoyed it listening out

there shout out to the first and last time listeners shout out to my fellow potters yes sir shout out to everybody out there

man oh lord oh [ __ ] yeah your first time here and this was

kind of crazy one of the best studio sessions i've ever been into the remix that's on the

mix full circle [ __ ] greatest studio session i've ever been to in my life personally

well well what yeah this is yeah this is up there yeah really yes absolutely 100 percent

get out of town i want a movie made off of that you're trying to make me cry no

from the minute we was at the old crib and roy sent his version over you sat down at the table in the dining

room and played it and started writing oh i gotta kill this [ __ ] we get to the studio

everybody in the studio this [ __ ] says y'all need everybody out yo

everybody so we're looking around like yo it's just me and silva and him yeah well i'm just saying everybody looking around like yeah he mean y'all

no [ __ ] all y'all out yeah [ __ ] that i don't typically say that

to like yeah we're looking at like that house but

fam so we all in the waiting room and this [ __ ] comes out i forget how

much longer later no shirt on drenched in sweat and was like all right y'all could come listen

all the lights was out like the [ __ ] that this [ __ ] just doing here yeah and caught that verse yeah

goosebumps i like that i like it you know what it's actually funny because rory's trying to sneak that with

just me and him oh no yeah once everybody else heard that [ __ ] he wrote that send it to me i

laid my verse that was supposed to be our little 40-40 voice joe thing yeah like a crooked

it was the uh throw it away video shoot we was on the bus and nah i did something to that too

everybody went crazy yeah they had a yellow cheese in a box yeah i'm starting i'm starting the next patreon episode

with that [ __ ] keep us in your prayers lord knows lord knows we need to be there

until next time i bid you would do adios cereva derechi uh what's the new one i forgot

or voir remember life is a series of moments and moments past so let's make this one last

as if it's all we have and lastly the baddies are insecure the stagnant women want to travel when

they're closed-minded women want you to teach them things grab you with tylenol it's going to be a mighty long

week also going to be a long week if you just have opened your life up to receiving voice notes from women like

like they abuse it i'm yo dawg yo it'd be like a minute and 56 seconds of

the nothing no no all right i'll be on the phone

i'm not listening to the voice note yo we love y'all yo it may not have sounded like i love you

all but i love most y'all [Laughter] [Music]

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