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Episode 513

Moment Of Clarity

Joe Budden Podcast Episode 513, “Moment Of Clarity,” released February 28, 2022. A ton to cover on this week's pod, Joe recaps Kanye's latest listening party (9:46). Next, the crew gives updates on the Tory Lanez and DJ Akademiks (23:14), Joe addresses Slaughterhouse's breakup (50:55), Summer Walker (1:16:15), Meek Mill's issue with his producer (1:36:02), and MORE! Full transcript and searchable timestamps below.

Moment Of Clarity

In this episode

  • 9:46A ton to cover on this week's pod, Joe recaps Kanye's latest listening party
  • 23:14Next, the crew gives updates on the Tory Lanez and DJ Akademiks
  • 50:55Joe addresses Slaughterhouse's breakup
  • 1:16:15Summer Walker
  • 1:36:02Meek Mill's issue with his producer
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Joe Budden Podcast Ep. 513 Transcript

Full transcript of Moment Of Clarity (1:08:00 long). Search it, or click any timestamp to jump to that moment.

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    that kind of falls in line with my

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    overall

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    my overarching

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    point what's that

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    i'd be dead ass right about something

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    and try to tell somebody i love and care

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    about which would be ice

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    and he argued me down call me names

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    threaten the friendship

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    only for a few days later

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    for joe to be proven

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    correct um

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    i'm gonna let you get that off but she

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    wasn't correct and when you carry that

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    weight

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    it's entirely it gets heavy

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    i hate it

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    it's a heavy cross to bear

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    but here we are

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    what you were right about this stuff

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    ice in the fat girl strip club

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    i'm still right you what you went again

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    found something for i sir

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    but you can be right when you're wrong

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    you know that yeah

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    i was still right

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    for that night

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    i don't i don't i don't even know if i

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    could talk about it because there's this

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    thing where i don't come in here and

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    talk about any of us having fun you know

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    and we can't have fun yeah that could

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    get turmoil

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    i'm gonna tell you

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    when you're having fun

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    because we're not the man that you are

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    yeah

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    that's honestly the answer oh man

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    we it's there's fun police never mind go

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    ahead yo move on your story i ain't even

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    letting you [ __ ] do that today i don't

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    want nobody

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    but now parks let me tell you so you

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    remember um my brother was in town yeah

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    shout out to ours

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    and he had an event he was hosting at

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    what

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    me and ish called the strip club so what

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    you called it go ahead you didn't call

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    it the time killer yeah you won't drag

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    me under that tree that's not even the

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    bus that's the train gsk

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    at a different at a strip club that we

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    went to previously and did me and ish

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    did not have a good time sure is is that

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    that good

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    on a hot friday night the body types the

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    body preferences were different there

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    were a lot of my

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    type of women in there

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    shapely mamas hey

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    and these guys you know they teeter on a

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    different side so they didn't have a

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    blast

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    so they killed the strip club see but

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    they didn't just kill the the the people

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    working that night they came in hey the

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    tv was crooked

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    tv

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    i think that's lit i know break your

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    neck while you

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    want some perfect strength come on yo

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    the red bull already we have you riled

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    up yeah you got two [ __ ] that's why i

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    don't [ __ ] with this because me and you

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    have been in some spots we've been in

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    i'm not disagreeing with you what i'm

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    saying is this this is what happened

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    break it down friday night we go to

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    unpack it yeah we go to one spot yeah

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    and that's why i was already we told

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    this yeah no i'm about to tell you i

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    know the spot that we went to yeah it'd

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    be having them in here uh-huh you know

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    we you could look at the lineups and

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    stuff on your on your phone sure it has

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    them in there so when joe said yo let's

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    go to the other spot i'm i'm like

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    alright cool i'm with it

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    it just so happens that particular day

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    it must have been all-star game super

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    bowl

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    easter christmas all of it rolled up in

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    one

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    team

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    we got the the g team

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    do you that's you saying that we went to

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    the g league

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    and so therefore so they [ __ ] it on the

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    strip club yes they did yeah i didn't

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    say they don't be having nba talent we

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    just went there i see it yeah

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    load management

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    there you go there you go there you go

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    ice ended up going to that same strip

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    club on a different night i went with

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    them

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    isis face looked different saw some icy

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    ones in the air

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    oh he kept saying let me just

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    all he kept saying is we're going to

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    talk about this all these girls excited

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    oh and i can't hide it i'm so eyesight

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    so i

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    ain't gonna hold you i got a text on my

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    phone

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    i wasn't gonna rattle you you my [ __ ]

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    yo you in the street tonight i'm like

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    nah

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    he said yo

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    i got a whole new look on the blah blah

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    blah club i said word he said like

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    whenever they was in there yeah yeah

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    they ain't here now they was in there

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    that night no that was a good night

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    platform plethora no see and that's why

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    you can't [ __ ] on a strip club for

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    whatever they do on a certain night yeah

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    we know that

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    friday night you got to rely on people

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    to know their audience and who they want

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    to see on a friday night that's true but

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    wednesday night is a big night too

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    actually wednesday night is my favorite

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    strip club night yes

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    i don't strip club no more like that so

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    it was i don't know what the night

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    was no i mean either just once a week

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    now ice because you're bumping it up you

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    bump into them women now there's like

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    how much longer are you going to do that

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    it's like oh how long do you open for i

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    think i had a nice little run i think i

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    got a nice runway ahead of me to still

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    do this [ __ ] it's about to get nice out

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    i'm just saying [ __ ] be 47 48 still

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    that destroy like

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    women want to age us in shame [ __ ] out

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    of here

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    but anyway ice had a good time had a

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    great time and i had a good time

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    watching him

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    did you get any videos didn't no no i

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    wouldn't do that i wouldn't do that too

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    i still think i've seen you do that

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    before yeah you've definitely done that

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    before you count it

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    i i have a reply but i can't give it

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    you counted it i think the situations

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    are different

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    i think that's how once the blast meter

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    gets past a certain point i don't tape

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    i'm not taping oh it was like yeah

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    you're having a blast he was all the way

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    up he's having a blast

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    i ain't gonna tape the blast man it's

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    corny you got your rocket shoes on

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    i had my brother's last night in town

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    you know yeah i ain't seen him in a

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    minute yeah he's all for ourselves yeah

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    yeah it was all farts you're throwing

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    the blue hundreds arsenal for ours

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    i got you

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    that's some [ __ ] had fun on the strip

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    of arsenal boys

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    i'll tell you that one all right we got

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    a pod to do yes sir we have a pod to do

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    match you to talk about i was trying to

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    get here on

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    wednesday night

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    thursday morning that's how much [ __ ] it

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    was to get to and then it just didn't

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    stop no facts i wanted to come back

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    tuesday night this week kind of felt

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    like 2014 2013 twitter to me

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    yeah

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    y'all got close to it this week

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    and ice you hit it on the head the more

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    serious things get in the world

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    some people just get to joking even more

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    man we're gonna joke that's the way some

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    of us cope

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    otherwise i'll be miserable

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    i'm gonna get these jokes off so

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    i put my disclaimer out there i'm on

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    twitter to lie and joke it's hard to

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    joke watching cnn man

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    it's hard to joke watching cnn it is it

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    will depress you

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    all right so we're not starting with

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    that

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    because i don't think putin is playing

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    around

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    i don't think he is

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    and then biden got up there and said we

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    froze the accounts

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    okay we're going to talk later um

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    second largest bank in the we from

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    you don't think they took the money out

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    of there though i didn't even want to

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    say no come on we're going to talk about

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    it yeah that's please

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    all right

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    microphone check one two what is this

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    [Music]

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    welcome to episode 513 of the joe budden

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    podcast i am your humble gracious

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    grateful and highly favored host joe

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    budden

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    here with a few of my nearest and

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    dearest parks is here it's just here ice

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    is here young boys in the backyard here

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    all right good good how's everybody

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    doing good pretty good how's your week

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    busy as hell long week what are you

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    doing [ __ ] it's a long time a long week

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    the [ __ ] was mad busy and then the

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    weather was great only to wake up the

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    snow today

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    yeah yeah the weather was like 67 and

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    then it was ice rain snow all types and

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    should they trying to get you sick fast

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    yeah they're trying to get you sick out

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    he's out there playing with the weather

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    machine

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    i agree that's all but i do like that

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    about new york

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    [ __ ] that ain't new york that's

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    everywhere

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    you like the up down up seesaw [ __ ] i do

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    it's winter

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    [ __ ] it's winter in new york

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    i know i know i know

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    i smelled spring the other day yeah he

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    didn't expect i thought last though yeah

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    some roses was coming at least let it

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    last uh no but two days no but winter's

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    long this year right because the

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    groundhog smoke hookah early

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    what's the grounds dates

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    yeah the groundhog ordered some hookah

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    no you didn't they changed up the method

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    how we know now brown hall come out and

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    start partying

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    it's a very good question

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    i don't know yo i only we really used to

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    do that [ __ ] when we was kids

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    and how do i know that that's the same

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    groundhog it's not it's definitely not

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    y'all just looking at groundhogs just

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    random groundhogs

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    got to be a reason and i'm stupid

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    cause i looked this up before

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    there's a reason

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    for the groundhog thing yeah theory yeah

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    what'd it say it's probably pagans

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    [ __ ] remember mine look it up how

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    much perk 30s i took

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    i want me to remember the groundhog

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    theory

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    no

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    um all right so everybody's cool

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    everybody had a good week a lot to get

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    to i tried to get here as soon as i

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    could

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    because wow you just get one of those

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    god just puts a pod in front of you

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    sometimes it really does

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    um so where would you gentlemen like to

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    begin ice on the way home from the last

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    pod was glued to the kanye stream

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    uh on the way home once i got home

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    because it ain't start i was already

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    the entire ride home i had my phone on

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    the stream they just had the screen up

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    with the they had they had this no they

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    had a circle on the screen and a heart

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    beating i was heard a heart beating the

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    entire time i couldn't find that i

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    didn't realize it was on the uh stem

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    player site

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    oh it was there too

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    where was where were you i watched it on

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    youtube uh okay i went to the app

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    yeah live stream well we were in the car

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    on the way back

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    yeah

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    but yeah

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    i got home started playing the game

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    left the phone sitting there and then

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    eventually just heard music

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    like it wasn't no count there's nothing

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    it just started i was like all right now

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    this wasn't streamed uh on apple no no

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    okay not apple it was uh

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    amazon's twitch channel

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    had it

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    youtube had it and

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    the stem player website had it

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    that's it yeah by the time i found it it

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    was too late so you have to fill me in

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    pause so he played um he played the

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    album

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    or this current version of the album so

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    i keep trying to explain to people that

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    hey this is not rough one yeah this is

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    rough one yeah i'm so happy i didn't go

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    out there

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    oh they you they want you to go

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    i'm not going to

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    listen to your ropes

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    and that's what he does it's not a knock

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    he's been doing this since pablo pablo

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    yeah it might have been before that

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    yesterday

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    yeah he was doing that yeah

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    yeah so it's not a knock to him but he

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    just what he did he just opened up

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    the listening session

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    because that's what a real listening

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    session used to be

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    playing your song letting people hear

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    what you got what you're working on what

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    it sounds like where i'm at with it yeah

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    they don't necessarily mean it's the

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    final product no he opened up like the a

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    r meeting when the hell was the

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    listening session that yeah usually

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    listen session was the final product

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    i've been to some listening sessions and

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    what year uh

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    16

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    yeah exactly

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    15 16. after joe went out there and got

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    all the bumps and bruises for playing

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    unreleased music

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    then it becomes a thing yeah no we

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    talked about earlier listening parties

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    was for the final yes

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    we can't even schedule that we can't

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    even book your listening party because

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    you know you don't have a final

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    because we got media people coming here

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    it needs to line up it wasn't always

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    this internet [ __ ] it needed to line up

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    right gotcha gotcha um but i think this

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    is more genius [ __ ] uh i like it i love

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    creating a revenue stream from listening

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    from playing your roughs

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    like and not only knocking i'm getting

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    paid you know whatever the deal

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    three times plus i'm selling out an

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    arena the donder one he did it three

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    times yeah he sold out three separate

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    times in arenas

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    so you talking about a different type of

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    money you got sodas and popcorn you know

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    what i'm saying like you know how

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    different big big [ __ ] and merch

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    the merch lines was through the roof i

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    think

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    videos

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    it is

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    this is how this is how you

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    get wealthy he's betting on himself

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    capitalizing off of himself and whatever

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    deals he's doing he's doing them kind of

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    facilitating the deal like i'm dictating

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    what we're going to do here right in

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    conjunction with the netflix drop it's

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    just all very timely yeah all though

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    and uh gap drop like it's all oh he got

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    a lot of [ __ ] dropping he got a lot

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    going on but that's what told me that we

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    wasn't getting no new music because i've

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    been watching you run around

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    for the last however many months

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    it takes time to put this together this

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    together yeah yeah he just got a lot

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    going on i didn't think that he had time

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    to be in the studio with all new music

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    that soon after a release so i do think

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    that some of these were skeletons from

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    the last project left over

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    we know migos went over there we know a

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    few names went over there uh and i'd

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    like to hear it i can't wait to hear how

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    it's put together which one one of the

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    records that i love the most

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    again we know these are not finished but

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    the uh the we did it kid with baby keem

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    amigos

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    and one of the lions in there believe it

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    was quavo one of them said i'm pushing p

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    now you know that's kind of a new phrase

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    so this could be a

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    newer verse it could be

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    it could be

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    so

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    this is a work in progress we're not

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    getting this no time soon dawg

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    my guess is april yeah finally

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    i've been telling you my final fast

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    though dawg it is it's it is what it

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    isn't if these are skeletons like he was

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    working on he gave us what 27 on the

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    first project so ain't no telling how

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    many he had in the talk that's true to

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    pick that 27 i don't know

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    yeah i could go back and touch these up

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    and not for nothing yay's

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    seemingly always working and he has a

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    whole bunch of team different producers

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    writers

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    there's he has enough stuff to pull from

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    so i'm saying like this right here

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    the burning house the water the pool

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    that should take months and months to

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    coordinate

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    there ain't no overnight [ __ ]

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    yeah

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    yeah this is beautiful with you know

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    what i'm saying like that [ __ ] is not no

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    overnight [ __ ] he can't be getting no

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    sleep yo

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    it's [ __ ]

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    you think you think you want sleep

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    yeah

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    i know his assistants are going through

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    it boy

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    oh no you want to talk about who i

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    already fired the whole sound team since

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    y'all to watch it let me tell you what

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    happened so

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    he played the donder two

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    um

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    after the last song which was uh it's a

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    record featuring soulja boy

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    then the choir was called first time in

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    a long time then the choir came out

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    and

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    they did a couple of uh records and he

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    started doing down to one songs okay but

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    it was like a concert pretty much so

  • 15:17

    like the p he was actually performing

  • 15:18

    these records you know usually with the

  • 15:21

    listening sessions

  • 15:22

    he's walking around yeah or he might

  • 15:24

    mount the lyrics or something this one

  • 15:25

    he was performing

  • 15:27

    and the mic wasn't right

  • 15:29

    i don't know if it wasn't no t-pain on

  • 15:31

    the mic

  • 15:32

    but whatever it was i seen the little

  • 15:34

    clip of him throwing the [ __ ] yeah but

  • 15:35

    that was

  • 15:37

    far in so

  • 15:38

    he had features

  • 15:41

    he had a whole show with the batman

  • 15:43

    and even there like fabio came out he

  • 15:46

    killed father

  • 15:47

    they said fabio was fighting his verse

  • 15:49

    the whole time and that sucks when the

  • 15:51

    sound is bad it was like there was a

  • 15:53

    artist

  • 15:55

    fabio tried to catch it he realized oh

  • 15:57

    this is a delay there's always a delay

  • 15:58

    [ __ ] that little show we did up in

  • 16:00

    elmira this weekend like they didn't

  • 16:01

    have the monitors right so when you're

  • 16:03

    up there rapping it sounds like there's

  • 16:04

    a delay because you're hearing the music

  • 16:06

    going all the way to the back wall and

  • 16:07

    coming all the way back

  • 16:09

    yeah there's gonna be a delay if they

  • 16:10

    don't have the monitors right well yeah

  • 16:12

    the monitors were not right and

  • 16:14

    immediately after that you know the

  • 16:16

    internet is going to internet the

  • 16:17

    credits roll

  • 16:19

    they start picking out the names oh man

  • 16:21

    and they wouldn't attack they twitters

  • 16:23

    and instagrams

  • 16:25

    they had the squares up there poor guys

  • 16:29

    i saw them killing like someone that was

  • 16:30

    credited with sound design like that's

  • 16:32

    not that wasn't his fault he's the one

  • 16:34

    that makes all the sushi sounds and

  • 16:35

    [ __ ] explosion sounds and all that

  • 16:37

    [ __ ] they're all wearing that poor guy

  • 16:39

    one of one of the dudes posted on his

  • 16:40

    instagram wasn't me right like yo leave

  • 16:43

    me alone but yeah then he fired the

  • 16:45

    whole sound team afterwards

  • 16:46

    understandable but he was he was upset

  • 16:48

    you know for perfectionists like kanye

  • 16:50

    someone who's

  • 16:52

    i put on these amazing shows my sound

  • 16:54

    [ __ ] now and people pay their money

  • 16:56

    right

  • 16:57

    fam this is what i do i'm known for this

  • 16:59

    even when he was just torn regular

  • 17:00

    concerts kanye's show isn't is like an

  • 17:02

    event it is ain't nothing

  • 17:05

    if you got deals with youtube and amazon

  • 17:07

    and twitch and all these other places

  • 17:08

    that it's streaming and this is the

  • 17:10

    first one yep donda one did three of

  • 17:13

    them right mm-hmm

  • 17:14

    so you want to make [ __ ] look

  • 17:16

    forward to the second one

  • 17:18

    yeah that makes sense

  • 17:20

    so yeah

  • 17:21

    it looks amazing though

  • 17:23

    he was upset

  • 17:25

    like it was at a point where you could

  • 17:26

    hear the tv track playing

  • 17:28

    and

  • 17:30

    he's just standing there as mad as hell

  • 17:33

    so you know the tv track is just a very

  • 17:35

    low low vocal low vocal of certain

  • 17:38

    points in a song right you hear that and

  • 17:40

    he's just standing there man then the

  • 17:41

    feature tries to rap

  • 17:43

    but he should be man though yes yeah

  • 17:45

    like 100 i think people really

  • 17:47

    understand how bad that is i got marilyn

  • 17:49

    manson out here yeah elon musk is out

  • 17:52

    here there's too much money involved in

  • 17:53

    this there's way too much going on right

  • 17:55

    now for this yeah

  • 17:58

    and i'm kanye this don't happen to me

  • 18:00

    right

  • 18:01

    no and again i'm sure these [ __ ]

  • 18:03

    practiced and rehearsed this [ __ ] for

  • 18:04

    weeks and weeks and weeks

  • 18:06

    and you got the money to get the best

  • 18:08

    [ __ ] in-ears in the world the best

  • 18:09

    mics in the world like yeah

  • 18:11

    yeah he was hot there's not really a

  • 18:13

    good

  • 18:13

    explanation for that

  • 18:15

    it's ain't sobs and like no disrespect

  • 18:17

    to sobs but yeah this is not that

  • 18:20

    this is live streaming around the world

  • 18:22

    my [ __ ] gotta sound correct yeah but

  • 18:23

    when you introduce live streaming you

  • 18:25

    really gotta have this that's the fact

  • 18:26

    gets it it gets tricky it gets tricky

  • 18:28

    it's tough yeah

  • 18:31

    remember this is new stuff mm-hmm

  • 18:33

    this is new yeah technologies but he's

  • 18:35

    really caught up for this and he's

  • 18:37

    coming off but again coming off of the

  • 18:39

    first

  • 18:40

    listening sessions they were amazing

  • 18:42

    even the sound

  • 18:43

    we were getting damn near cd quality

  • 18:45

    sound that's true

  • 18:47

    from a live stream we were ripping them

  • 18:48

    and listening to you yeah

  • 18:50

    yeah and i didn't understand how that

  • 18:51

    happened like i'm like no there's no way

  • 18:53

    this [ __ ] sounds like this in there like

  • 18:55

    are you playing like a separate track

  • 18:57

    straight to the live stream or something

  • 18:59

    yes it should be and it was amazing yeah

  • 19:01

    we didn't get a lot of that

  • 19:04

    seems like mike dean might have been

  • 19:05

    missed a little bit probably so although

  • 19:07

    he doesn't do i don't think he does the

  • 19:08

    live stuff maybe i'll bro no then he did

  • 19:11

    the live one for the last one the last

  • 19:12

    one they got mad at him yeah he got mad

  • 19:14

    at him

  • 19:18

    so but we're getting fabio's album soon

  • 19:21

    yeah

  • 19:22

    and i'll assume that we're getting

  • 19:23

    kanye's album soon yeah i would say the

  • 19:25

    next book

  • 19:26

    i got to come into april it's not coming

  • 19:29

    april

  • 19:30

    well i didn't hear all the uh

  • 19:32

    16 songs or whatever i just heard

  • 19:33

    whatever you played for me too here is

  • 19:35

    going to be the first person to rock the

  • 19:36

    kanye gap balenciaga line you

  • 19:40

    y'all think i'm gonna walk around

  • 19:42

    dressed like a bat

  • 19:44

    you can be yeah honestly

  • 19:49

    okay

  • 19:52

    look what y'all think of me

  • 19:55

    actually ice loves batman so they're

  • 19:56

    probably i don't love balenciaga though

  • 19:58

    so guys

  • 20:00

    no sir

  • 20:01

    no sorry you better not love it how your

  • 20:03

    ass

  • 20:04

    i'm cool yeah i'm not gonna wear this

  • 20:07

    but

  • 20:08

    but i support it some of y'all gonna

  • 20:09

    wear this though i know you can't say

  • 20:10

    yeah you not gonna just wear nothing in

  • 20:12

    the lawn they might come out with some

  • 20:13

    dope [ __ ] i'm not wearing nothing

  • 20:16

    the black hoodie ain't that bad

  • 20:18

    so ish will be the one where

  • 20:20

    here's our answer right there i'm just

  • 20:22

    saying all right we figured it out we

  • 20:23

    got it no we got it it's cool it kind of

  • 20:25

    looks like the hoodie you got on

  • 20:27

    like a little bit and you do the j yo

  • 20:29

    what's up yo

  • 20:31

    it's him it's friday what's up honestly

  • 20:33

    tell me i don't know what you're talking

  • 20:34

    about all right then never mind i'm on a

  • 20:35

    sweatsuit and some sneakers

  • 20:38

    you look good i think people could only

  • 20:40

    hope to look thank you look this way at

  • 20:42

    your age like if i could throw jays on

  • 20:43

    and still like do it

  • 20:46

    you got the barber put some paint in

  • 20:47

    there

  • 20:49

    you get some big jam a little bit

  • 20:52

    and you could throw jays on you just opt

  • 20:54

    out for the tom ford's balenciagas

  • 20:57

    um you know stuff like jay's a little

  • 20:59

    beneath you yeah you know

  • 21:02

    jersey city days was long ago all right

  • 21:04

    all right move moving right thank you

  • 21:06

    thank you see what we gotta do all right

  • 21:08

    y'all not gonna pick with me today y'all

  • 21:09

    already know my man time for me i agree

  • 21:12

    with you so is you the only one i think

  • 21:13

    that hurt the whole album

  • 21:15

    i can't judge it because it's all

  • 21:17

    there's no music that's what i'm saying

  • 21:18

    like people keep saying give me your

  • 21:20

    take on this album i'm like bro these

  • 21:21

    are unfinished yeah we're saying like

  • 21:23

    it's it's spots in there where you could

  • 21:24

    tell somebody else

  • 21:26

    versus blank versus it's yeah

  • 21:34

    it's like when you kind of fake what you

  • 21:36

    want to sound like and then you'll fill

  • 21:37

    in the words like gotcha yeah

  • 21:38

    yeah this is you can't judge this it's

  • 21:41

    not judging us i do like i said i like i

  • 21:43

    like the migos feature

  • 21:45

    i like the future and travis scott joins

  • 21:47

    but i want to he there's i know it's

  • 21:48

    going to be so much more to this when

  • 21:49

    it's done that i'm not paying this no

  • 21:51

    mind i tell you what though

  • 21:54

    i would love for drake to be unselfish

  • 21:56

    it just sounds like him

  • 22:00

    i would love for that to happen he

  • 22:02

    definitely gonna have a drake feature

  • 22:04

    i would hope so you would think so he

  • 22:05

    has to

  • 22:06

    you would think so

  • 22:08

    but who knows that's the record if he is

  • 22:09

    gonna have one that's the one a lot of

  • 22:12

    people have been telling me there was

  • 22:13

    past tension between um triple x and

  • 22:17

    drake so it probably won't happen i

  • 22:18

    don't know anything about that but

  • 22:20

    just listening to the songs that's the

  • 22:22

    one he sounds perfect on

  • 22:24

    okay okay well thank you

  • 22:27

    we'll keep

  • 22:28

    when listening to sessions come out and

  • 22:30

    you hear these extra features and these

  • 22:32

    songs sound different we'll talk about

  • 22:33

    it some more then and as we predicted it

  • 22:35

    was available through bootleg uh oh yeah

  • 22:38

    i got the whole joint right here soon as

  • 22:40

    it hit the stem player i was like okay

  • 22:41

    cool hit the button and the entire album

  • 22:43

    would you not promote bootlegging on

  • 22:44

    this uh this podcast we just definitely

  • 22:47

    don't promote we don't promote anything

  • 22:48

    but

  • 22:49

    it's gonna happen you can know it exists

  • 22:50

    you're gonna know what's gonna happen

  • 22:52

    you can acknowledge it and they boot

  • 22:53

    like our patreon episodes

  • 22:56

    we know

  • 22:58

    they do they do

  • 23:00

    the game is the game you can't stop the

  • 23:01

    game yeah you can't stop them yeah you

  • 23:04

    got to just work with them in the

  • 23:05

    digital world what's this there it's

  • 23:06

    there it's that's it yeah

  • 23:09

    uh all right what else is super

  • 23:10

    important

  • 23:13

    you guys want to tackle the big one

  • 23:15

    i thought you would do it

  • 23:18

    oh

  • 23:22

    well uh you know there was a big twitter

  • 23:25

    uh hubbub about

  • 23:28

    he pulled the white house

  • 23:31

    in a heartbeat why are you so white i'm

  • 23:33

    not tackling this

  • 23:48

    uh who started it academics

  • 23:52

    came out with some core information

  • 23:53

    regarding the tory lanez mega stallion

  • 23:55

    introduce it don't ask me

  • 23:57

    [Laughter]

  • 24:01

    who knows how to start i don't know

  • 24:03

    i don't know

  • 24:04

    i came out

  • 24:06

    with

  • 24:06

    saying he saw some reports

  • 24:09

    from the official court documents or

  • 24:10

    something he got discovery naturally

  • 24:13

    yeah

  • 24:15

    but then

  • 24:16

    saying that a dna expert

  • 24:18

    said that there was no dna at all on the

  • 24:22

    weapon uh-huh it was inconclusive i

  • 24:24

    guess something yeah i don't know but

  • 24:26

    then they had released a report saying

  • 24:27

    that that wasn't true so all this [ __ ]

  • 24:29

    is confusing to me honestly

  • 24:31

    i don't know what to believe anymore

  • 24:34

    i mean i don't think everybody's lying

  • 24:36

    i'm gonna tell you what was hilarious to

  • 24:37

    me though and this is only my only take

  • 24:39

    on this so the person uh her name is

  • 24:42

    nancy dylan

  • 24:44

    i don't know who the [ __ ] that is she's

  • 24:46

    a reporter for rolling stone but she's

  • 24:47

    in the courthouse shout out to her so

  • 24:49

    she so when hack

  • 24:51

    said what he said she said

  • 24:54

    that's not true there was absolutely

  • 24:56

    zero mention of dna at all

  • 24:59

    in the uh

  • 25:00

    there was zero mention of dna at the

  • 25:02

    tory lanes hearing today right

  • 25:05

    and then came right back and said

  • 25:07

    uh

  • 25:08

    okay update

  • 25:10

    this is what they said we're in a

  • 25:11

    process of actually retaining an expert

  • 25:13

    with respect to dna so i stopped there

  • 25:15

    and just bust out laughing because that

  • 25:17

    sounds like there is a mention of dna

  • 25:19

    right when you just said you know for a

  • 25:21

    fact there's zero mention

  • 25:23

    so i'm just getting laughed out of it i

  • 25:24

    don't care thoughts and prayers thoughts

  • 25:26

    thoughts and prayers indeed i don't know

  • 25:27

    what to make of this [ __ ] anymore bro

  • 25:31

    put on a video or something

  • 25:33

    a lot went on this week it did all right

  • 25:36

    i'm up

  • 25:37

    i'm up

  • 25:39

    oh this sucks ass wednesday

  • 25:50

    that's why i tossed it to you though so

  • 25:51

    we can get hub up

  • 25:52

    um

  • 25:54

    what do you say about something when

  • 25:56

    you've already said everything there is

  • 25:58

    to say about it

  • 26:00

    and that's the challenge you run into as

  • 26:01

    a podcaster i i have

  • 26:04

    i think i've unpacked this

  • 26:06

    already and it's just a waiting game

  • 26:09

    here we are this is in court people

  • 26:12

    yeah pre-trial

  • 26:14

    some of us know what pre-trial is

  • 26:17

    you get all the evidence you see what's

  • 26:18

    going on you weigh your options both

  • 26:20

    sides you move forward or you don't

  • 26:23

    unfortunately i don't think there's a

  • 26:24

    way for tori's name to ever be

  • 26:26

    exonerated i've shared that already uh

  • 26:29

    meg has her team of supporters and fans

  • 26:33

    uh as she should

  • 26:36

    and it's none of our jobs to call it so

  • 26:37

    i mean i don't have to come in here and

  • 26:39

    they're gonna call us we're gonna see

  • 26:40

    this right this is gonna play out at

  • 26:42

    some point so we don't have to have this

  • 26:44

    internet thing we do where we just like

  • 26:46

    battle opinions

  • 26:47

    hey i feel like this i feel like this

  • 26:49

    because we favor different people like

  • 26:51

    right we don't have to get into and this

  • 26:54

    is this kind of goes to the uh the

  • 26:55

    thought process of well i called it or i

  • 26:57

    said it first all right you know what i

  • 26:59

    mean like i want to be right and be the

  • 27:00

    person to say something yeah

  • 27:02

    yeah i don't want to get into any of

  • 27:03

    that there's like a community of people

  • 27:05

    that believe that joe budden and his

  • 27:07

    checkered past is just against meg and

  • 27:09

    i'm not

  • 27:10

    like i'm not against anybody i don't

  • 27:12

    have a horse in this race

  • 27:14

    it's just my job to come in here and

  • 27:15

    talk about it like my my take is that

  • 27:18

    was pretty good sometimes you're good

  • 27:20

    yeah it's lose loose

  • 27:23

    what do you mean like it's just lose

  • 27:24

    lose for us as a community as a people

  • 27:26

    it's lose losses yeah there's no way

  • 27:28

    that's gonna come from this like let's

  • 27:30

    just say hypothetically on the far left

  • 27:33

    side um he gets found guilty of whatever

  • 27:36

    we lose as a community isn't as people

  • 27:38

    yeah right like i just think it's it's

  • 27:40

    nothing good to ever come from this

  • 27:42

    because we will never know what took

  • 27:43

    place because both of their stories are

  • 27:45

    contrastly different right so we won't

  • 27:48

    win they won't even win you got them

  • 27:50

    saying like that's what his tweet

  • 27:52

    he tweeted a day after all the mess

  • 27:56

    that yo the sad part is like we just

  • 27:58

    lose

  • 27:59

    like you put a a famous black woman and

  • 28:02

    a famous black man against each other

  • 28:05

    uh he alluded to her not really knowing

  • 28:07

    what happened but she's been fed a story

  • 28:09

    he said it's not her fault and this is

  • 28:11

    where division comes from it's kind of

  • 28:12

    deep but i mean maybe it's a bad time to

  • 28:14

    hear that from him because he's caught

  • 28:16

    up in this so some people feel like he

  • 28:18

    he still shouldn't be saying a word

  • 28:20

    and while that may be true that's hard

  • 28:23

    when you see a little bit of light at

  • 28:24

    the end of a tunnel and you've been

  • 28:26

    quiet for two years with a gag order

  • 28:28

    yeah and you see somebody else now

  • 28:30

    which would be act

  • 28:32

    kind of saying things for you and you

  • 28:34

    could kind of get around it and point to

  • 28:36

    those things

  • 28:38

    hey what he's saying is truth i can't

  • 28:40

    lie if i was accused of something and i

  • 28:42

    didn't do it hypothetically if he didn't

  • 28:43

    do it

  • 28:44

    i would be

  • 28:45

    hard-pressed to not come out and say oh

  • 28:47

    i didn't do that [ __ ] won't remember

  • 28:48

    that dude you wouldn't say that but

  • 28:50

    from him one of the first things they

  • 28:51

    attacked him on was yo if i didn't do

  • 28:53

    that [ __ ] i would just say that

  • 28:55

    well that's not how

  • 28:57

    that's not how it goes a lot of these

  • 28:59

    fans are just looking at the the i need

  • 29:01

    this right now right i want this they

  • 29:03

    want this resolve yesterday now they

  • 29:04

    really wanted to go back and forth so

  • 29:05

    they could have something to talk about

  • 29:06

    well yeah to be honest but

  • 29:09

    um if i'm him

  • 29:11

    at this juncture i'm as quiet as a

  • 29:13

    church mouse especially if i'm winning

  • 29:15

    in court i'm shutting up

  • 29:18

    i don't want to sway anybody i don't

  • 29:19

    want to be come off as pompous i don't

  • 29:21

    want to come off as arrogant i'm going

  • 29:23

    to shut my [ __ ] mouth if i'm winning

  • 29:25

    in court i'm shutting up it's hard

  • 29:28

    though ish you're right he did it he did

  • 29:30

    it for two years he did it he can do it

  • 29:32

    and i'm again i don't want nobody to

  • 29:33

    think he's saying i'm taking sides i

  • 29:35

    don't know what the hell happened you

  • 29:37

    taking sides

  • 29:38

    i don't know what happened but i'm going

  • 29:39

    by your example if you're from him

  • 29:43

    all the [ __ ] i caught for the last two

  • 29:44

    years the way my career has been

  • 29:45

    affected all this going on it's hard to

  • 29:46

    just sit here and continue to shut the

  • 29:48

    [ __ ] up now we're around third base

  • 29:51

    we're around third base potentially and

  • 29:52

    if i get exonerated if it gets dismissed

  • 29:55

    i'm gonna jump up on the table like kobe

  • 29:57

    bryant and go crazy but right now i'm

  • 30:00

    shutting the [ __ ] up well since you

  • 30:01

    bring up baseball

  • 30:04

    in baseball they shun you for any

  • 30:07

    celebration they say it's bush league

  • 30:09

    you can't stare at a home run it's just

  • 30:11

    certain things like the bat yeah

  • 30:14

    now in baseball that might be tradition

  • 30:17

    new age people are saying get that the

  • 30:19

    [ __ ] out of here like that attracts

  • 30:21

    people so if you hit a home run yes

  • 30:23

    stare at it uh flaunt to the pitcher

  • 30:25

    without getting a ball thrown at you 95

  • 30:27

    miles per hour

  • 30:29

    hey if you round in third and think you

  • 30:30

    could do something fancy go jazzy it in

  • 30:32

    there so that's what i say to that i'm

  • 30:34

    just saying the temptation you'll have

  • 30:35

    people that feel one way

  • 30:37

    and then people that feel another way

  • 30:39

    tori got music coming he teased it he

  • 30:41

    said yo music coming

  • 30:42

    he's feeling excited about whatever is

  • 30:45

    coming as well so now let's go to uh we

  • 30:48

    don't need to argue about shitty talking

  • 30:49

    shouldn't he talk it's a matter of

  • 30:50

    opinion no i agree he's feeling excited

  • 30:53

    true

  • 30:54

    now that may not necessarily mean

  • 30:56

    anything

  • 30:57

    because meg is sticking to her guns she

  • 31:00

    repeated yo you shot me

  • 31:02

    but it wasn't her and this is the first

  • 31:04

    time she's like she's she's

  • 31:06

    this is the first time like she's

  • 31:07

    doubling down on that on the internet

  • 31:10

    it's no longer someone shot me it's you

  • 31:13

    she didn't do it i didn't do it

  • 31:16

    that leaves you yeah but don't play this

  • 31:19

    out in the court of public opinion and

  • 31:21

    on the internet but this is my point if

  • 31:23

    if

  • 31:24

    if if this is the

  • 31:26

    if you are winning in court

  • 31:30

    you don't even want to jab the bear

  • 31:33

    you don't want to poke you get what i'm

  • 31:35

    saying shut the [ __ ] up because then

  • 31:37

    this doesn't happen

  • 31:38

    the unfortunate reality though yo joe he

  • 31:41

    jumped up there and said yo that's what

  • 31:43

    you get for

  • 31:44

    giving out good dick [ __ ] two best

  • 31:45

    friends and

  • 31:48

    of course you're gonna get some some

  • 31:49

    negative backlash

  • 31:51

    you get them saying like just be chill

  • 31:53

    my [ __ ] be mature sit in the cut wait

  • 31:56

    till your day in court is had and

  • 31:58

    hopefully if you know you didn't do

  • 31:59

    anything

  • 32:00

    your day will be had then you're going

  • 32:02

    to celebrate a running man

  • 32:04

    naked i don't like this from you

  • 32:06

    because we've given good dick and seen a

  • 32:08

    wig out absolutely

  • 32:12

    whenever i experience something for my

  • 32:14

    life

  • 32:15

    but it's not

  • 32:17

    right is all i'm saying i agree

  • 32:20

    this typically comes about unless the

  • 32:24

    [ __ ] is you know factual and just video

  • 32:26

    and but i mean these situations a lot of

  • 32:28

    times come about because there's some

  • 32:30

    emotional element of course to it so i

  • 32:33

    mean should he have said that again i'm

  • 32:34

    not arguing that he should

  • 32:36

    i'm not saying i'm only talking about

  • 32:38

    the temptation to want to share your

  • 32:40

    side when you see a glimmer of hope yeah

  • 32:42

    and again let me just hold on look

  • 32:45

    i'm not saying he should have shared it

  • 32:47

    either

  • 32:48

    but

  • 32:49

    she put up the text message

  • 32:51

    thread of showing yo you apologize from

  • 32:54

    this and then quickly that was

  • 32:55

    disgusting to me it looks like

  • 32:58

    that statement was just trying to clear

  • 33:00

    that up that was your dog

  • 33:02

    i didn't apologize to you for that that

  • 33:03

    one just for this that one was nasty i'm

  • 33:06

    not practicing something out i mean i'm

  • 33:08

    not preaching something my own practice

  • 33:10

    we all know personally i shut the [ __ ]

  • 33:12

    up right all right cool what i'm saying

  • 33:15

    it and my and my

  • 33:16

    potential consequence is nothing

  • 33:18

    compared to what he is potentially

  • 33:20

    looking at

  • 33:21

    dog i don't want to come off wrong brash

  • 33:24

    harsh nothing to a potential juror to a

  • 33:27

    potential d.a check this out i'm gonna

  • 33:29

    sit in the cut i did it for two years he

  • 33:32

    could do it another two months ish

  • 33:33

    you're a little older

  • 33:35

    a little more mature a little wiser

  • 33:36

    you're right that that counts you're

  • 33:38

    right you ain't you ain't playing with

  • 33:40

    the money he's playing with you and had

  • 33:41

    that money affected the way he has i

  • 33:43

    agree true

  • 33:44

    and so

  • 33:46

    again it might be like yo i think i'm in

  • 33:48

    the clear now we going in circles but

  • 33:50

    i'm just saying well let's advance it

  • 33:51

    there's mad other stuff to get to about

  • 33:53

    this no what i'm saying is this

  • 33:55

    i did it for two years

  • 33:57

    i could do it for two months

  • 34:00

    the end for me

  • 34:01

    i did it for two years i could do it for

  • 34:03

    two more months i understand again his

  • 34:05

    position in the event that he is in fact

  • 34:07

    innocent i understand

  • 34:09

    she put out the text and said well what

  • 34:10

    were you apologizing for

  • 34:13

    and i thought that was really nasty

  • 34:15

    because when i went through

  • 34:17

    a situation

  • 34:18

    and apologized people were hitting me to

  • 34:21

    say hey an apology in court is an

  • 34:23

    admission of guilt

  • 34:25

    so when you play on that

  • 34:27

    it's telling the text that she released

  • 34:30

    didn't highlight why he was apologizing

  • 34:33

    it didn't say any of that

  • 34:36

    so now she's telling him why he

  • 34:38

    apologized

  • 34:40

    i'm getting the facts of this case out

  • 34:41

    of here and now i'm inserting my own

  • 34:43

    [ __ ] brain

  • 34:45

    stop

  • 34:46

    you yo

  • 34:49

    you can't tell me why i'm apologizing

  • 34:53

    and i'll take it a step further than

  • 34:55

    that

  • 34:56

    only for joe

  • 34:58

    i'm sure this will be taken wrong

  • 35:01

    but now you asking me to believe that a

  • 35:03

    [ __ ] shot you and then text you

  • 35:06

    and said my bad

  • 35:09

    not saying it's impossible could happen

  • 35:13

    but that makes it even more strange

  • 35:16

    it's just strange like i'm not i'm not

  • 35:18

    letting my brain run wild with this

  • 35:20

    discovery is discovery and that's where

  • 35:22

    the act fight comes in at

  • 35:25

    act misworded himself but he was correct

  • 35:29

    because inconclusive is a fancy way of

  • 35:31

    saying or

  • 35:33

    not

  • 35:34

    we can't decide

  • 35:36

    yes technically academics was wrong in

  • 35:38

    saying his dna was not found on that

  • 35:40

    weapon because that is not true

  • 35:44

    and when she responded to it

  • 35:47

    if you know how to read

  • 35:49

    she was responding in sioux surf

  • 35:51

    language

  • 35:52

    see i see a lot of that going on as you

  • 35:54

    people get more acquainted with

  • 35:55

    attorneys

  • 35:57

    it's a lot of sioux surf language

  • 36:01

    threatening

  • 36:02

    threatening the lawsuit well you did

  • 36:04

    what

  • 36:05

    go ahead and do what i did especially

  • 36:06

    since this cardi b today [ __ ]

  • 36:09

    shade room putting up [ __ ] we

  • 36:12

    people are weary out there

  • 36:15

    [ __ ] is gonna surf

  • 36:17

    on some lawsuits

  • 36:19

    that's just the time in the climate that

  • 36:21

    we're in so she said wait how you know

  • 36:23

    wait what huh how you know how would you

  • 36:25

    know um

  • 36:29

    suey language

  • 36:32

    right but totally aside from that he was

  • 36:35

    the sentiment was correct

  • 36:37

    it was inconclusive we don't have dna on

  • 36:40

    it you don't have to have a horse in the

  • 36:42

    race

  • 36:42

    to think to yourself it would be tough

  • 36:45

    to prove something beyond a reasonable

  • 36:47

    doubt

  • 36:48

    if there's no gunshot residue if there's

  • 36:50

    no dna on the clip the bullet

  • 36:54

    the mechanism of this weapon

  • 36:57

    that's all

  • 36:58

    it's like you're watching law and order

  • 37:00

    yeah which is why i don't get why people

  • 37:02

    are just so

  • 37:04

    everyone's just attacking everyone yeah

  • 37:07

    nobody's thinking logically it's all i

  • 37:09

    like this person emotional [ __ ] yeah

  • 37:11

    it's all emotional it's emotional and

  • 37:12

    that's the part that i hate that's why i

  • 37:14

    just sit back and watch it like

  • 37:16

    you got fans of one person because

  • 37:18

    they're a fan of this person they don't

  • 37:19

    care about the facts they don't care

  • 37:21

    they don't know we don't even know the

  • 37:22

    facts and it's the social climate

  • 37:25

    social climate is playing a big big big

  • 37:27

    big part in this well that's what he

  • 37:28

    said one of his the public

  • 37:30

    like the public climate is paying a big

  • 37:32

    big partners yeah

  • 37:36

    what part will public climate play after

  • 37:38

    this is finished

  • 37:40

    see and that's why i think because he

  • 37:41

    got the glimmer of hope he jumped the

  • 37:43

    gun with the talking i think that

  • 37:45

    because

  • 37:46

    he's talking to the people win lose or

  • 37:48

    draw he's hung

  • 37:50

    when loser drawer he's hurt he ain't

  • 37:52

    necessarily hung but

  • 37:54

    he's hung by a certain demo true but i

  • 37:57

    think that all right so in my opinion

  • 38:00

    like black women have been downtrodden

  • 38:03

    so long right they've been getting their

  • 38:05

    ass whip so long

  • 38:06

    that

  • 38:09

    we have to have empathy immediately for

  • 38:11

    them because they've been victimized so

  • 38:13

    much yeah so um when you hear about

  • 38:16

    anybody doing something to a black woman

  • 38:18

    of course you're gonna run today eight

  • 38:20

    until we gonna prove beyond a reasonable

  • 38:22

    doubt that this didn't happen and even

  • 38:24

    if they did prove that not saying they i

  • 38:26

    don't know if he's innocent or guilty

  • 38:28

    but if they still do prove that you

  • 38:30

    still gonna have people that empathize

  • 38:32

    with the black woman regardless of what

  • 38:33

    took place he gonna still get some

  • 38:35

    backlash so i don't he can still proceed

  • 38:38

    and go on with a career and make money

  • 38:40

    and be able to feed himself again but

  • 38:42

    he's still gonna have a demo of people

  • 38:44

    that are still gonna denounce him

  • 38:45

    regardless especially if if

  • 38:48

    let's say this comes back in completely

  • 38:50

    like yeah and they don't go to trial and

  • 38:52

    this don't you know fully play its way

  • 38:54

    out then then if they don't hear her not

  • 38:56

    guilty yeah he's guilty even if they

  • 38:58

    hear her not guilty based on uh uh

  • 39:01

    lack of prosecution or interventional

  • 39:03

    evidence to prosecute them fully it's

  • 39:05

    still not gonna be enough not enough

  • 39:07

    because we have to empathize with black

  • 39:09

    women and that's why i say where the

  • 39:10

    social climate is today because we've

  • 39:12

    been so [ __ ] up throughout hundreds of

  • 39:14

    years we still gonna rock with the black

  • 39:16

    woman regardless

  • 39:18

    it's almost just where we are it's

  • 39:20

    almost like

  • 39:22

    if a

  • 39:24

    black woman is involved

  • 39:27

    you

  • 39:28

    the the person

  • 39:30

    charged is guilty until proven innocent

  • 39:33

    it's the other way around like you have

  • 39:35

    to treat them as a black person in the

  • 39:37

    united states is guilty until you prove

  • 39:38

    your innocence no but i'm saying like in

  • 39:40

    this case in any

  • 39:42

    yeah it's like oh she accused you of

  • 39:44

    this you have to prove you didn't do it

  • 39:46

    yeah we're automatically you gotta have

  • 39:48

    a video footage saying yo i wasn't even

  • 39:50

    there i was in wendy's yeah you gotta

  • 39:51

    add that

  • 39:54

    i don't have nothing else on it either

  • 39:57

    y'all unpack it thoughts and prayers

  • 39:59

    just keep april 5th

  • 40:01

    that's the next date

  • 40:03

    it's too close to the finish line

  • 40:06

    april 5th mm-hmm that's what they

  • 40:07

    postponed it to yes postponed to april

  • 40:09

    5th

  • 40:11

    might get postponed again though yeah

  • 40:17

    nope leave it alone let it go leave it

  • 40:19

    alone let it go i'm chilling today thank

  • 40:21

    you good i'm chilling all right come on

  • 40:23

    what else is important get past it come

  • 40:25

    on what else what else what else we got

  • 40:27

    you wanna do new music prayers thoughts

  • 40:28

    condolences absolutely everything

  • 40:30

    everything

  • 40:31

    to everybody

  • 40:33

    new music no music it is what new music

  • 40:36

    cowboy that's that's the the biggest

  • 40:38

    release of the week

  • 40:39

    conway's uh shady debut

  • 40:42

    okay

  • 40:44

    um did anybody let's do it

  • 40:46

    i'm not no

  • 40:47

    okay

  • 40:48

    did you get something i did got some

  • 40:50

    good features i love it god don't make

  • 40:52

    mistakes

  • 40:53

    the album is out now

  • 40:55

    at first the first half of it i was like

  • 40:57

    oh this is i was kind of torn because it

  • 40:59

    was like

  • 41:01

    you know we often see someone from you

  • 41:03

    know the quote-unquote underground or

  • 41:05

    whatever go to a major label and they

  • 41:07

    are forced or not forced or coerced to

  • 41:10

    change their [ __ ] up so the first five

  • 41:12

    songs i was kind of torx it's like oh

  • 41:13

    this is a conway project

  • 41:17

    right that's good no it's good okay but

  • 41:19

    it's also like then you kind of would

  • 41:20

    hope for it to

  • 41:22

    go somewhere else a little bit but then

  • 41:23

    the second half of them

  • 41:25

    it grows

  • 41:26

    it's a really good album

  • 41:28

    um i had someone who's a big conway fan

  • 41:30

    reach out to me yesterday and he's like

  • 41:32

    yo

  • 41:33

    i think you're gonna like the album i

  • 41:34

    think you will do it and i'm like

  • 41:36

    you know me why he was like uh

  • 41:39

    conway's very vulnerable interest but

  • 41:42

    he's not just saying like i'm the best

  • 41:44

    rapper like i rap better than all y'all

  • 41:45

    yeah he's not doing that like he does on

  • 41:47

    most of his versions he does and that's

  • 41:49

    kind of the point i was making the first

  • 41:50

    half of it he does that

  • 41:52

    and then he goes somewhere else with it

  • 41:54

    he's never seen him go

  • 41:56

    i mean he's he's been pretty vulnerable

  • 41:58

    on mixtapes the cow some of us like the

  • 41:59

    record i played last episode like he

  • 42:02

    plays with the vulnerability but this

  • 42:03

    one

  • 42:04

    he was all the way there for the whole

  • 42:06

    second half yeah that's why he was just

  • 42:07

    like yo he he tapped in yeah he went all

  • 42:10

    the way so i said all right give him a

  • 42:12

    listen over the weekend yeah i want to

  • 42:13

    give a shout out to mike and whoever

  • 42:15

    else was involved over there at shady

  • 42:17

    because they let him be him and they let

  • 42:19

    him grow at the same time

  • 42:21

    and that doesn't usually happen yeah on

  • 42:22

    a for someone like this that does a very

  • 42:24

    interesting

  • 42:25

    not on the label debut yeah exactly

  • 42:27

    debut yeah

  • 42:30

    yeah yeah the date the debut was ours

  • 42:32

    you work on that [ __ ] on your own time

  • 42:35

    yeah there's still derringer and all

  • 42:36

    around there a couple songs but then you

  • 42:37

    get bank you get uh hit boys on there

  • 42:40

    okay you get some some different

  • 42:42

    sounds got some good r b features yeah

  • 42:45

    well the jill scott is not a r b feature

  • 42:48

    she's rapping

  • 42:49

    really bars you're lying i swear to god

  • 42:52

    scott can do anything she's dope by the

  • 42:54

    way i love you she's amazing

  • 42:57

    jill scott giving [ __ ] bars joe was

  • 42:59

    over there borrowed up

  • 43:01

    all right what else we got what else

  • 43:02

    dropped

  • 43:04

    uh earth gang dropped

  • 43:06

    uh

  • 43:07

    che crew dropped

  • 43:08

    robert glasper dropped i didn't kodak

  • 43:11

    black dropped right yes he did he did

  • 43:14

    yeah so those were the drops

  • 43:17

    i heard chase [ __ ] it's hard

  • 43:20

    uh what else did i hit robert glass

  • 43:21

    where i pre-ordered

  • 43:23

    amazing i listened to earth gang but it

  • 43:24

    was on like the tv so i didn't really

  • 43:26

    have no deep dive on that

  • 43:29

    here's here's some gel bars

  • 43:35

    oh my god she gave me some vocals

  • 43:37

    i'll cut this off

  • 43:39

    oh my lord yo jill scott is amazing what

  • 43:42

    can she do

  • 43:44

    why does she sound so great rapping

  • 43:46

    she's a good rapper

  • 43:47

    and why was she talking about [ __ ]

  • 43:50

    that's the bigger question you know but

  • 43:52

    did the internet figure jill out yeah i

  • 43:54

    was going to say

  • 43:55

    they did yeah a long way

  • 43:57

    long walk my ass

  • 43:59

    they walked somewhere

  • 44:02

    jill we love you we appreciate you and

  • 44:04

    thank you wow i'd love to hear more jill

  • 44:06

    scott rapping yeah i would i think some

  • 44:07

    more exists so you might be hearing

  • 44:09

    something

  • 44:09

    look at robert glass we got yeah out

  • 44:11

    here oh my god jesus i didn't know he

  • 44:14

    possibly could just it's robert

  • 44:15

    glasper's amazing yo look at this that's

  • 44:17

    a nice look at this tracklist look at

  • 44:19

    these features

  • 44:20

    look at this cohesiveness this art

  • 44:23

    i'm a fan

  • 44:25

    what a guy let me go accomplish this

  • 44:26

    what a guy yo

  • 44:28

    you artists out there some of y'all make

  • 44:30

    thursday nights really exciting man yeah

  • 44:33

    like i forget it's thursday night and

  • 44:36

    then it's like whoa let me see let me

  • 44:37

    see what [ __ ] is cooking out here and

  • 44:39

    some of y'all the kitchen is hot the

  • 44:41

    kitchen is hot so shout out to y'all

  • 44:43

    i appreciate y'all

  • 44:45

    and like you said uh like we said

  • 44:46

    earlier sometimes you need an escape man

  • 44:48

    i've been watching cnn and it's just

  • 44:49

    been nasty yeah i can't do that

  • 44:53

    no more

  • 44:54

    i have a choice though i have a choice i

  • 44:56

    mean you try to avoid it and ignore it

  • 44:58

    as long as you can but then when it

  • 45:00

    starts to get really really effective i

  • 45:02

    forgot what movie that was

  • 45:04

    that started with like this

  • 45:06

    uh

  • 45:07

    young it started with a young kid and

  • 45:09

    his dad and they was in another country

  • 45:11

    somewhere but

  • 45:12

    then they just kept showing all these

  • 45:14

    bombings and the family that this guy

  • 45:16

    lost and this is his last kid and and it

  • 45:18

    was dad versus america and that always

  • 45:20

    stuck with me because they're just

  • 45:21

    showing

  • 45:22

    innocent people just die out the blue

  • 45:24

    yeah like bomb here bong it's over bro i

  • 45:27

    was watching some [ __ ] and somebody was

  • 45:29

    just video recording something out the

  • 45:30

    window uh so the fighter jet came

  • 45:33

    through and the missile just came

  • 45:34

    through the jet came through and the

  • 45:36

    missile just shot past the window dog

  • 45:38

    and just hit some [ __ ] see that type of

  • 45:39

    [ __ ] i can't imagine

  • 45:42

    and wouldn't want to so your heart goes

  • 45:43

    out your heart goes out to the people

  • 45:45

    experiencing this even if it's not here

  • 45:48

    and i saw you're a human being bro fam i

  • 45:50

    saw a person tweet

  • 45:52

    yo i'm in the ukraine and we just got

  • 45:54

    word that i'm plugging our internet

  • 45:57

    so

  • 45:57

    i hope to talk to y'all again

  • 46:01

    i saw reports that said they hit

  • 46:02

    chernobyl yeah they took it yeah

  • 46:05

    chernobyl great miniseries it was two

  • 46:08

    really really really first the first day

  • 46:10

    uh

  • 46:12

    like you know my brain but strategically

  • 46:14

    they hit the airport first

  • 46:17

    you know what i'm saying we're going to

  • 46:17

    take away your ability to to enter

  • 46:20

    or leave

  • 46:21

    so we hit the airport on the first day

  • 46:23

    like [ __ ] like that was just air

  • 46:24

    landscape

  • 46:26

    air land sea organized attack

  • 46:29

    food and threatening anybody gets

  • 46:30

    involved

  • 46:32

    i really don't what are we fighting

  • 46:33

    about what are they fighting about

  • 46:35

    i read that it was i don't know this is

  • 46:37

    not a political podcast but i read it

  • 46:39

    was about the access to the port that

  • 46:41

    ukraine has because they're on um the

  • 46:43

    mediterranean or whatever mm-hmm

  • 46:45

    support by the black sea or something

  • 46:46

    like that yeah i read that as well yeah

  • 46:48

    again not political so i don't

  • 46:51

    and the crazy part is we really won't

  • 46:53

    ever know what they beefing over

  • 46:56

    no we probably will we probably will the

  • 46:58

    united states going to give us a story

  • 47:00

    russia is going to deny the story who

  • 47:02

    the [ __ ] do we believe we don't the

  • 47:04

    united states we don't know what we

  • 47:05

    beefed over

  • 47:07

    so my sentence was

  • 47:15

    they said send all the insurrection

  • 47:16

    people over there because they already

  • 47:18

    got the gear

  • 47:22

    now i'm for real with him [ __ ] that

  • 47:24

    yeah that's a good one you want to fight

  • 47:26

    you know your country right now it was

  • 47:27

    tough as well january 6th

  • 47:29

    go ahead and get your ass out in the

  • 47:30

    street

  • 47:32

    no right you got it you got it don't

  • 47:34

    even worry about it prayers the people

  • 47:36

    you the ukraine that's that's another

  • 47:38

    one that was funny i won't say it no no

  • 47:40

    yeah prayers to uh

  • 47:42

    everybody out there going through that

  • 47:43

    yeah

  • 47:44

    there's i'm sure quite a few ukrainian

  • 47:46

    immigrants you know here that are

  • 47:48

    probably

  • 47:49

    dealing with family members

  • 47:51

    off the grid and whatever you know

  • 47:53

    that's i can't imagine we might go

  • 47:54

    through it if putin tried to make a

  • 47:56

    withdrawal from that little bank that

  • 47:57

    they froze

  • 47:59

    get mad

  • 48:01

    they throw some accounts go buy them he

  • 48:03

    told [ __ ] like yo

  • 48:04

    i double deal y'all

  • 48:07

    you but i was like all right

  • 48:09

    you know how somebody you be talking

  • 48:10

    [ __ ] they punch you in the face you'd be

  • 48:12

    like yo well let's talk

  • 48:14

    you know let's talk though mine aged

  • 48:16

    fast

  • 48:17

    he was always

  • 48:19

    he was old when he was running why are

  • 48:21

    we on anybody seen lionel richie lately

  • 48:23

    i have not no

  • 48:25

    i won't say it

  • 48:26

    i love lionel richie

  • 48:28

    legend

  • 48:29

    one of the greatest better [ __ ] one

  • 48:31

    of the goats

  • 48:32

    yeah when i was watching on whatever

  • 48:33

    that show is these wholesaling i want

  • 48:35

    that yeah one of them

  • 48:37

    that's it

  • 48:38

    okay

  • 48:40

    that's it y'all ain't gonna get me i

  • 48:42

    just saw it

  • 48:44

    um all right what else is important

  • 48:47

    oh did you listen to kodak's album i

  • 48:48

    didn't listen to it no i didn't i didn't

  • 48:49

    listen to it yet okay that's not your

  • 48:51

    bag

  • 48:51

    that is my bad guys that's awesome i've

  • 48:53

    been a little busy

  • 48:54

    with some stuff

  • 48:56

    i didn't get a chance to listen to the

  • 48:57

    new music

  • 48:58

    deal with the strip club

  • 49:00

    wasn't playing the new music that was

  • 49:02

    playing hits

  • 49:03

    uh i know you was in there on fire

  • 49:06

    in more ways than once yo yo you good oh

  • 49:09

    hello yeah we straight i'm sorry about

  • 49:10

    that yeah we got my apologies

  • 49:12

    i was in there by myself standing around

  • 49:14

    looking like a [ __ ] doof

  • 49:16

    until looking like a dote no no not

  • 49:18

    until it wasn't his weight class that's

  • 49:20

    what they did

  • 49:21

    like that that's what you did yo yeah

  • 49:25

    i went to support ours

  • 49:26

    come on kid you gotta be a team player

  • 49:30

    nah i mean i got some singles but you

  • 49:32

    would took them home took them home

  • 49:36

    it's not team played yeah no i got out

  • 49:38

    of there um oh one thing for the

  • 49:40

    strippers though you gotta like know if

  • 49:42

    somebody's not really checking for you

  • 49:44

    because that was a little [ __ ] yeah

  • 49:47

    the hell is he talking about keep your

  • 49:48

    frustration i'm sitting there like

  • 49:50

    shorty please move like

  • 49:52

    that

  • 49:53

    my eyes

  • 49:54

    what are you talking about come start

  • 49:56

    throwing a butt on your thigh i don't

  • 49:58

    want you on the side of your hip you're

  • 50:00

    like sweetie go that way i didn't catch

  • 50:02

    eyes with you nothing but that's on

  • 50:04

    y'all cause you're supposed to say uh

  • 50:06

    excuse me miss i'm not tipping right now

  • 50:07

    and then they'll leave yeah but if you

  • 50:09

    don't say a word

  • 50:25

    but look at her and she just kept

  • 50:28

    pressuring you yeah like man move i'm

  • 50:30

    over here i'm talking to homie i'm

  • 50:32

    having a drink i act like they're not

  • 50:34

    there and they just keep

  • 50:35

    like

  • 50:36

    you're bouncing your butt on me sweet

  • 50:38

    like shorty i don't like him

  • 50:40

    he's not like you please go

  • 50:43

    leave me alone this is harassment at

  • 50:44

    this point security

  • 50:47

    so yeah

  • 50:49

    i cannot dodge it

  • 50:51

    no

  • 50:52

    mr winston i cannot fight the feeling ah

  • 50:55

    i know

  • 50:56

    we tried

  • 50:59

    i'm owen two you're grown up

  • 51:02

    ols3 changed the world i still tried to

  • 51:04

    keep it from coming out

  • 51:06

    ols3 should have come out no i shouldn't

  • 51:09

    what do you want me to do right now you

  • 51:11

    want to just chill yes

  • 51:13

    why

  • 51:15

    because articulate it for me okay i can

  • 51:18

    you know and that's why that's why we're

  • 51:20

    friends oh let's let's do do it for me

  • 51:24

    when

  • 51:25

    something is clear

  • 51:28

    that somebody wants something

  • 51:30

    a certain reaction out of you

  • 51:33

    any reaction you give them

  • 51:36

    it hurts them more when you don't

  • 51:37

    respond in the manner you actually give

  • 51:39

    them is their

  • 51:42

    they win yeah they win when what

  • 51:45

    whatever it is

  • 51:47

    yeah

  • 51:48

    which is what i don't know it doesn't

  • 51:50

    matter it matters to the person yeah it

  • 51:52

    does yeah it don't matter it does matter

  • 51:54

    if somebody wants a response if somebody

  • 51:56

    wants to uh make you angry if somebody

  • 51:59

    you get what i'm saying like there's

  • 52:00

    people out here that do [ __ ] and try to

  • 52:02

    manipulate you just to get you

  • 52:05

    um

  • 52:06

    bring your frequency down mm-hmm you get

  • 52:08

    what i'm saying it could be an energy

  • 52:11

    thing

  • 52:12

    i'm with you that's what leads me to the

  • 52:14

    question

  • 52:15

    what do you win like everyone's agenda

  • 52:18

    no that's just one particular person

  • 52:20

    there's a kid somewhere in idaho that

  • 52:22

    might tweet kevin hart and say hey [ __ ]

  • 52:24

    you suck my dick or just something from

  • 52:27

    his home right he might feel vindicated

  • 52:30

    and good about doing that

  • 52:32

    from kevin hart's position

  • 52:34

    no you don't care about that because

  • 52:36

    what did you win in that

  • 52:39

    like what do those are some instances in

  • 52:41

    other instances some people have a

  • 52:44

    direct benefit at some of the things

  • 52:46

    that they do

  • 52:48

    and so for me i can only speak for me

  • 52:51

    and again i'm not even i'm preaching

  • 52:54

    but i practice what i'm preaching we

  • 52:55

    have this conversation here a lot i'm

  • 52:57

    not gonna even entertain you

  • 53:00

    you i won't even let you know that i

  • 53:02

    know you exist

  • 53:04

    and i think that hurts the people 10

  • 53:06

    times more than you cursing them out

  • 53:08

    then you you get any any responsibility

  • 53:10

    yeah any response at all i'll see you in

  • 53:12

    the street and walk right by you fam

  • 53:14

    you know i will too so that that's me

  • 53:17

    i can't you know what

  • 53:18

    at what point does it become

  • 53:22

    more about controlling your own

  • 53:24

    narrative especially when you have a

  • 53:26

    platform this huge

  • 53:28

    i speak three hours twice a week and

  • 53:32

    that's for the free people that's free

  • 53:34

    you all know what we do on the side

  • 53:36

    we get to work because your job right

  • 53:39

    is

  • 53:40

    to

  • 53:42

    talk

  • 53:43

    so when you don't talk

  • 53:45

    it's obvious that you're not you're not

  • 53:48

    talking

  • 53:49

    like it's painfully apparent so so then

  • 53:51

    you just allow people to continue with

  • 53:54

    whatever it whatever they say jargon

  • 53:56

    they say

  • 53:57

    and you're mature and you do the right

  • 53:59

    thing which never feels good you older

  • 54:01

    you're trying to go to a different place

  • 54:03

    like everybody has a different route

  • 54:04

    right so in the route that you're going

  • 54:06

    no you're not supposed to respond to any

  • 54:09

    of it but if you just keep letting

  • 54:10

    people paint you with this brush silent

  • 54:13

    while you're silent

  • 54:14

    what could happen

  • 54:16

    years down the line if people are that

  • 54:18

    invested and with me they usually are

  • 54:21

    is that this just keeps going like it's

  • 54:23

    like a like a it's the snowball effect

  • 54:25

    like it just gets bigger and it gets

  • 54:27

    bigger and it gets bigger and now

  • 54:28

    because you the [ __ ] that's willing to

  • 54:30

    just leave with the [ __ ] that trust

  • 54:32

    and believe in you

  • 54:35

    no clarity is ever given from your side

  • 54:37

    and maybe none has to be but when [ __ ]

  • 54:40

    get a little too carried away

  • 54:42

    so i got two answers yeah

  • 54:45

    yeah i do think something should be

  • 54:48

    this is app this is

  • 54:50

    dog if this if the

  • 54:54

    response today uh-huh i might give you

  • 54:56

    this response in six months when it

  • 54:58

    don't benefit you yeah you get what i'm

  • 55:00

    saying or i'm just gonna keep ascending

  • 55:04

    and i'm happy that you did what you did

  • 55:06

    so now i could put you over there and

  • 55:08

    you can't grow who you are you can't

  • 55:10

    grow with me you stay right there you

  • 55:11

    can never double back and get no bags

  • 55:13

    with me you can't never do nothing um um

  • 55:16

    um positive with me because you showed

  • 55:19

    your hand i'm good on you

  • 55:21

    it's not gonna stop you from growing

  • 55:23

    exactly

  • 55:25

    it's only so it's like a

  • 55:26

    self-vindicating thing

  • 55:28

    see but that's where it's weird-ish and

  • 55:30

    i hate to

  • 55:32

    bring it to this space i'm not looking

  • 55:35

    for vindication in the outcome of other

  • 55:37

    people's

  • 55:38

    actions you're all right like there's a

  • 55:40

    meme that there's a meme that goes

  • 55:41

    around that says you can't flex on me i

  • 55:43

    want you to win

  • 55:45

    like my mom got her car broken into half

  • 55:47

    many months ago and was real

  • 55:48

    disappointed one one night and so i said

  • 55:51

    hey they needed that

  • 55:53

    a little more than we did

  • 55:55

    she didn't quite [ __ ] with that at the

  • 55:56

    time but

  • 55:58

    but

  • 55:59

    the fact remains that's the that's the

  • 56:01

    way that the world is designed you know

  • 56:03

    if i need some [ __ ] and that you got to

  • 56:04

    bends right here i'm in here so use your

  • 56:06

    own advice so what i'm saying they need

  • 56:08

    this you don't i know so that's why i'm

  • 56:10

    not i won't be i'm not mad

  • 56:13

    at everybody doing what they got to do i

  • 56:15

    have this talk with women because i

  • 56:17

    support whole culture

  • 56:19

    and i'm gonna make that correlation a

  • 56:20

    lot as we have this conversation but i

  • 56:22

    support whole culture i support

  • 56:23

    everybody doing what they have to do to

  • 56:26

    survive i don't know your circumstance

  • 56:28

    and i know any of our shoes could change

  • 56:30

    with a phone call

  • 56:31

    sure

  • 56:32

    so if that's what you got to do dawg

  • 56:35

    then do it but a consistent theme for me

  • 56:38

    and y'all are right let me say this

  • 56:39

    y'all are right so i don't want to sound

  • 56:40

    like i'm arguing with y'all

  • 56:41

    y'all are right

  • 56:43

    where y'all are not right is

  • 56:45

    yo this is a trigger of mine

  • 56:50

    and now this is different

  • 56:54

    so you're not personally asking me

  • 56:57

    yeah yo you asking me to have

  • 57:00

    a restraint god is asking me to have a

  • 57:03

    restraint

  • 57:05

    so i will

  • 57:06

    yeah but boy

  • 57:09

    yeah just this way this way your true

  • 57:11

    strength shows yeah i go through it

  • 57:13

    every day you know what i'm saying like

  • 57:14

    yeah you can handle some of the other

  • 57:15

    ones but when it's right there let's

  • 57:17

    let's see how strong you really are so

  • 57:19

    for y'all you never give an explanation

  • 57:20

    or anything

  • 57:21

    you just let it let it go there's days

  • 57:23

    that i damn need to be about to break

  • 57:25

    you know what i'm saying like but

  • 57:27

    like i look at what good is it going to

  • 57:29

    do it's not going to do no good you're

  • 57:31

    not going to win

  • 57:32

    but there's nothing to win i know

  • 57:34

    no no [ __ ] the winner let me advance

  • 57:36

    what good is it going to do let me

  • 57:38

    advance this

  • 57:39

    i mean clarity

  • 57:42

    but let me know

  • 57:44

    i was just gonna say clarity for whom

  • 57:45

    because cause in the clarity situation

  • 57:48

    if that's your goal

  • 57:49

    then i pick up the phone

  • 57:51

    i have

  • 57:52

    and if we still don't meet then there's

  • 57:55

    no clarity gonna be getting yeah so what

  • 57:57

    so and that's just or some people don't

  • 57:58

    want clarity we'll never meet

  • 58:01

    yeah we'll never meet that's why yo we

  • 58:03

    come on this part a lot and talk about

  • 58:06

    behavior that we see from people doing

  • 58:08

    things for monetization

  • 58:10

    like that is a consistent topic here yes

  • 58:13

    especially in an internet era so none of

  • 58:16

    it is shocking

  • 58:18

    but sometimes and for me

  • 58:20

    a lot recently

  • 58:22

    god keep making it so it'd be like wait

  • 58:25

    no you

  • 58:28

    no way not you

  • 58:30

    wait you two

  • 58:32

    oh and you

  • 58:36

    everybody need a bag

  • 58:39

    and so the people that maybe what we do

  • 58:42

    for a bag

  • 58:44

    differs and because the line is so

  • 58:46

    blurry today because everybody got a

  • 58:48

    platform and is posturing we throw

  • 58:51

    around words like [ __ ] integrity but

  • 58:54

    what the actions show is insecurity

  • 58:57

    and if you don't clear that up for

  • 59:00

    people

  • 59:01

    then you just get a community of people

  • 59:03

    to believe some [ __ ] and just run with

  • 59:04

    it and then the phone game starts but

  • 59:06

    they're gonna do that regardless yeah

  • 59:08

    but even if you try to clear it

  • 59:11

    what is it gonna solve all of that is

  • 59:12

    cool but when you come in here and talk

  • 59:14

    as much as i do about as much as i do

  • 59:17

    when it come to your front door

  • 59:19

    no you should address it now should you

  • 59:21

    address it like we addressed like i

  • 59:23

    addressed another situation that i

  • 59:25

    handled poorly publicly on air of course

  • 59:27

    not

  • 59:28

    of course not and i think that my

  • 59:29

    reputation garners people thinking

  • 59:33

    that when i say i'm gonna address

  • 59:35

    something that's what's coming and

  • 59:37

    that's not where i'm at i don't feel

  • 59:39

    that way i'm hurt

  • 59:43

    i'm not angry

  • 59:46

    but i won't misdirect my hurt

  • 59:50

    and for me that's what happens a lot of

  • 59:53

    times

  • 59:54

    we start misdirecting anger because of a

  • 59:56

    difference in ideology

  • 59:59

    and this slaughterhouse [ __ ] that we're

  • 1:00:00

    talking about that's all it's been from

  • 1:00:03

    the rip

  • 1:00:04

    and when emotions get involved it's

  • 1:00:05

    tough for people to articulate their

  • 1:00:07

    points

  • 1:00:08

    and try to convey a message

  • 1:00:11

    and think about things logically or in

  • 1:00:13

    spite of their position

  • 1:00:15

    but that's what needs to happen

  • 1:00:17

    i don't know why all this is going on

  • 1:00:19

    because there's a difference in

  • 1:00:23

    ideology

  • 1:00:25

    but that's a consistent theme for me so

  • 1:00:27

    it's me

  • 1:00:28

    it's me

  • 1:00:30

    so therapy teacher to always look at you

  • 1:00:32

    what's happening with you that makes all

  • 1:00:34

    of these things

  • 1:00:35

    similar like happen go on everything in

  • 1:00:38

    your life you attract it

  • 1:00:39

    so y'all say to ignore it therapy tell

  • 1:00:42

    you you can't

  • 1:00:45

    so what don't address it here i was just

  • 1:00:47

    watching just just watch the clown show

  • 1:00:48

    just watch the clown show you don't have

  • 1:00:50

    to go on

  • 1:00:52

    i can't do that because there's a

  • 1:00:53

    teachable moment somewhere in here for

  • 1:00:55

    somebody i can't shun the people that's

  • 1:00:58

    going to pick up the positive for the

  • 1:01:00

    people that only focus on the negative i

  • 1:01:02

    can't

  • 1:01:03

    i can't that's not who i am that's not

  • 1:01:05

    who i've been that's not the evolution

  • 1:01:07

    of joe that's not the person that that's

  • 1:01:09

    not who i want to be

  • 1:01:16

    i can't tell you how to move i can't

  • 1:01:18

    tell you how to clean your house you

  • 1:01:20

    know what i'm saying i might want my

  • 1:01:21

    couch over there you might want your

  • 1:01:22

    couch over there i can only say what i

  • 1:01:25

    would do and what i wouldn't do

  • 1:01:27

    so if i'm you i'm i wouldn't even

  • 1:01:30

    address anything if i had something to

  • 1:01:32

    say i'll pick up the phone if we can't

  • 1:01:34

    get clarity or if we can't get a

  • 1:01:35

    commonality there i'm gonna move on and

  • 1:01:38

    i'm gonna dissociate myself if that's

  • 1:01:39

    what i feel i wanna do

  • 1:01:42

    if i don't feel i wanna dissociate

  • 1:01:44

    myself and we can't get clarity cool you

  • 1:01:46

    could be you're right i could be my

  • 1:01:48

    right and we could keep it moving but i

  • 1:01:51

    wouldn't um

  • 1:01:53

    do it publicly like you've had too much

  • 1:01:54

    public [ __ ] going on like i would just

  • 1:01:56

    let that [ __ ] rock

  • 1:01:59

    and again but doing it that way says

  • 1:02:01

    that you can't just have a legible

  • 1:02:02

    conversation about something no you can

  • 1:02:04

    have a conversation in private you don't

  • 1:02:06

    got to have that competition

  • 1:02:07

    so the public especially in this nation

  • 1:02:09

    has been had

  • 1:02:11

    privately 90 million times so where's

  • 1:02:14

    the clarion over the course of 10 years

  • 1:02:16

    so what is you addressing it right now

  • 1:02:17

    solve nothing

  • 1:02:19

    if you've had like you said this

  • 1:02:20

    conversation has happened a bunch of

  • 1:02:22

    times over the past 10 years

  • 1:02:25

    what are you getting in front of this

  • 1:02:26

    camera on that microphone addressing it

  • 1:02:28

    right now because because there's a

  • 1:02:29

    teachable moment

  • 1:02:31

    that's why

  • 1:02:33

    i just finished saying you have to look

  • 1:02:34

    at [ __ ] outside of your personal

  • 1:02:36

    perspective on it

  • 1:02:38

    and think about the people that's going

  • 1:02:40

    to actually pull what they need to pull

  • 1:02:42

    from it

  • 1:02:43

    because there's too many people that

  • 1:02:44

    watch this

  • 1:02:46

    i understand the point of you adding

  • 1:02:48

    light to something that you don't really

  • 1:02:50

    want to be so visible

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    i get that

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    but at some point we have to start

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    taking control of our own narrative i

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    think you just go down a wormhole

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    because every single time now that

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    something gets sad not every time you

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    pick and choose your battles

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    you pick and choose your battles but the

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    ones that don't respond to anything so

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    listen to them and play those give it to

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    me so now when you don't choose to

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    address some

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    because you address

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    jack you're on the dress jill jill must

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    be telling the truth

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    you get him saying or you address ronnie

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    and bobby you ain't address ricky and

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    mike them [ __ ] is telling the truth

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    because if they wasn't telling the truth

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    you would have addressed it the same way

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    you did to other people and i think you

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    just go down a wormhole

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    i wouldn't lend no credence to nobody if

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    that's how you feel that's how you feel

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    outfit that's why we talked good luck my

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    [ __ ] we talked and had a conversation

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    about it and we didn't we couldn't come

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    to terms or whatever yeah fine you move

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    how you move i move how i move

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    god bless you yeah good luck i'm out

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    or not good luck okay it's just god

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    bless you move one way behind the scenes

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    no no

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    no you divulge only certain information

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    to the public to frame certain things a

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    certain way to leverage your audience

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    and take advantage of fan equity that

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    wouldn't have been don't worry about it

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    yeah come on but you don't gotta do that

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    right

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    you be blessed that you ain't gotta do

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    that

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    look at it as a blessing that you don't

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    gotta do that

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    what that is that was good right there

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    i'm trying to make light hearted but yo

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    you you don't have to do that

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    but that is the blessing i know

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    everybody's not blessed to have to do

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    that

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    it just hurts when you do it at the

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    expense of me

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    oh would you take the advice you get

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    your mother

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    that was a good one

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    i smoked that

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    so get your [ __ ] off

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    no yeah like

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    take that advice you'll get the [ __ ] off

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    at the expense of me and hopefully it

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    does well whatever they stole

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    out mama phase car

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    they needed that

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    it ain't hurt mama faye

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    they needed it

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    leave it at that

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    i'm gonna go off one day yo yeah we're

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    gonna try to tell them

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    these days

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    they don't know that's what happens when

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    you suppress things

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    [Music]

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    yeah

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    keep building up to eventually explode

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    that's why you find another method of

  • 1:05:26

    release yeah and not for nothing that's

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    right why are you going to the strip

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    club whatever go to the gym like

  • 1:05:31

    whatever people sweatpants so to what

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    they're saying too

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    at least my advice would be let the

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    whole picture paint out

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    let's see what this all looks like

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    all these webisodes the album

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    parks

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    i know

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    you know why [ __ ] fell in love with

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    friday the 13th

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    series the movie and jason

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    when it came on and jason killed

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    somebody

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    it was to be expected that in a few more

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    minutes

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    he was going to kill somebody else

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    sometimes you didn't don't need to see

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    the rest of the movie to kind of know

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    how this oh wait you got to keep killing

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    holy [ __ ]

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    like that's what y'all want me to watch

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    this is disgusting yo come on man stop

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    yo push stop yo stop now we gotta pause

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    yeah we gotta fall no this is [ __ ]

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    utterly

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    overly disgusting

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    uber all right no loving life

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    there you go

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    y'all need to check zenjo

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    you gotta give me a check i don't like

  • 1:06:38

    it

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    i don't because you will later on though

  • 1:06:40

    can you send me a check

  • 1:06:43

    you give alicia a check

  • 1:06:44

    you gotta give me a check my name

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    so i'm saying therapist yeah

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    yeah that's a good one

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    doctor issue no i'm tight

  • 1:06:56

    i'm tired it's a part of that part yeah

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    yeah well we'll look back on it and be

  • 1:07:00

    like yeah i'm glad i listened thank you

  • 1:07:02

    dawg yeah thank you you look back

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    we only telling you this because we're

  • 1:07:06

    your friends and we really love you we

  • 1:07:08

    don't want to see you make just just

  • 1:07:11

    ain't worth it don't do it

  • 1:07:15

    because you know i'm ignorant the other

  • 1:07:17

    side i

  • 1:07:18

    gash you up for no reason

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    all right come on let's move on and here

  • 1:07:21

    we go let's talk about uh friends

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    exploiting the relationship

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    [Music]

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    let's move on

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    what do y'all think about that

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    react

  • 1:07:38

    i think we did

  • 1:07:40

    no nothing

  • 1:07:42

    all right what else you got me

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    so buying

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    so by

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    the first

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    african-american woman to be um

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    potentially

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