Protecting Energy

young kids today are clowning ll for all

the shitty dude what do you think

they're gonna do to you when you come

out

that's true

they clowned at ll for what

every eight months they just

fam [ __ ] said ll got out the pool with

the wave

that's what they

yo [ __ ] said he went to the peep show

and pulled the apple out of his pocket

and started eating it while he was

looking at the girl

yo

young [ __ ] is crazy dog l was kind of

flagrant yeah that's what he responded

to that too yeah

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anyway

y'all getting uh publix into me today i

ain't playing with y'all hey

i don't know though i don't i don't know

though maybe not maybe not i don't maybe

not no maybe not no y'all swear i'm

immature still yeah

sometimes no but there's a choice

but you still i choose that

you choose immature

that's fine but you're still immature

i disagree come on sam so you when you

actively select

one here come [ __ ] old wise one over

here

come on man teach me something

[ __ ] learn me no i'm good something is

[ __ ] about if she handled all of joe

biden's issues there would be none like

shut up [ __ ] yeah yeah and i mean

he can only try to sound smart you get

in the car and make mad bad decisions

hey the rest of his life being shambles

he come on here and be wise [ __ ] him

yeah i might have to choose a maturity

today

but that's a choice

i know how to be better

just don't want to be but why you gotta

always be better

that's the goal

no the goal's in the table

real life is when this [ __ ] is off cool

now what i'm with you up yeah come on

that they won't be believing that don't

worry i called some friends today but

colin surf don't do nothing because he's

kind of mature now too that's facts he

was very mature when he was here with us

a couple weeks ago look at how look at

how see

oh man but i i offer resistance to that

why

because maturity and immaturity

is

all perspective why do we say surf is so

much mature now because he's not

shooting people at [ __ ] two in the

afternoon

the [ __ ] are we talking he grew up [ __ ]

look what he had to stop

yeah he could have still been doing this

right

you're right

it's me that oh he's arrogant

yeah

oh you're immature wait wait stop no

it's not fear fail i know i know what i

know

why are you compared to

brad ass

because because it's a matter of

perspective

what what shortcomings you think you got

that you got to work on let me hear it

and it's a weekend podcast i ain't

getting off he knows he's going to candy

right off right yeah oh my god candy and

procrastination he eats a lot oh yeah i

asked you that that's just that's that's

it [ __ ] always go today little surface

problem that's procrastination

that's deep [ __ ] for issues let me ask

you a question honestly before we get

started how come when you late like you

don't even call

i know like that's my thing

not only that oh he don't text wait this

is

i was crying today you late and you

sending us posts on instagram

i like i thought it was like it said i'm

like i think you bout to say i'm outside

this is an instagram post that's funny

first of all and then when you hit him

for an update he say something stupid

like on the road in route

looking for parking on the way that's

not true well go ahead if a [ __ ] it

asks me for an update i say where i am

it's cool man we ain't starting with

that guys

that's

yo stop saying i'll be late cause

technically i'm late but

six seven eight ten minutes ain't

yeah i mean

[ __ ] think i'm coming at

two hours three hours late yeah and

that's the problem with people that are

late

because how do you know what that 10 15

or 20 minutes means to my life or isaa's

life

you don't

but i don't feel like it's this it's the

saturday part aki go ahead

microphone check one two what is this

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517

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welcome to episode 517 of the joe budden

podcast i'm your humble gracious

grateful and highly favored host

here with a few of my nearest and

dearest parks is here it's just here ice

is here cory is here young boys in the

backyard with us yeah

all right and the mic is sounding good

how's everybody doing today doing well

doing well it's trick

yeah pretty good day how are you

well

i'm doing well yeah big week had a good

week yeah yeah you did and i had a good

week get a round of applause

now y'all talking about work i'm just

making a good weekend

i think that had something to do with

yeah

they go together it makes the highs

higher when yeah i mean things are going

well

yeah active active week i woke up uh

when the nicki interview dropped glad

that

pod dropped with it hmm

that was an interesting choice actually

i love that

it's work

yeah it's work

they didn't step over each other not

highlights the work that's being done

though yeah

you got to do that whenever you get the

opportunity to to showcase what your

work ethic is you got to show that that

was that was a lot that she had to say

in that interview actually she went off

yeah she she went off i want to thank

her she was great

she was great the fans seemed to really

enjoy it and appreciate it

uh

and i don't think i've ever seen her

that way

and i didn't want to start with this but

but here we are here we are yeah i don't

think i've ever seen her

be that vulnerable and just

and

bold in in

the things that she resists

like the things that she opposes bold in

it

yeah

but with reason yeah that was the thing

that that i enjoyed about her boldness

this time was that she gave reason for

her boldnesses

other people won't give you your flowers

unless you do or give people you know

you for instance or you know other

people in the field they're flowers

unless someone does

this is where i really [ __ ] with nikki

right because

in the interview

she was talking a lot about

our influence and

us licensing influencing our culture and

just she really got into that [ __ ] and

it's easy to say that and then on the

live right she got in the black men i

love y'all y'all are great y'all looked

everything she did all of that and it's

easy to say those things for public

posturing

like everybody does that for consumer

facing where hey you just picked up pick

the hot topic that can rally people and

go with that one but then

when the interview dropped she spent the

next few days

just

empowering me

yeah

like she didn't have to go back and say

yo nah joe had the best version that

cipher oh yeah hands down yeah we all

knew that he would

you don't have to do that right

at that level

true

all of these years later right

i told y'all when superstars say

something it's they saying it for a

reason

so we even when you can't spot that

reason to just go out of your way to do

that that was great and she didn't stop

there no she kept going she continued

i want to thank him for allowing me to

space and handling me with care

she's been going ever since and

that's what made it beautiful

because often you just hear the words

you hear the words right but then to

follow it with action

like this was her version of and

actually she said it

we are the only people creating

millionaires and billionaires and not

even seeing one percent of it no more

you get a few more people doing that

of that stature

that's the important part of that

stature yeah yeah yeah 100 and the

conversation starts to go a bit

differently so yeah i want to have uh

hit the round of applause again

shout out to nikki shout out the queens

shout out to the barbs the barbs was

[ __ ] with me this week

they held me down boy they was dope boy

they let me know

reminding me what support feels like

yo i'm so used to just going at this

thing alone it's like a renegade

holy [ __ ] supporters

oh y'all lucky i don't have supporters

yo if i had some of them and that's not

true i'm joking of course but yeah no

that was pretty cool barbs man i'm

[ __ ] with them

yeah y'all [ __ ] gonna say something

what's that allowing me to board to talk

about barbs i was

letting you rock on your tower i'm

shouting out the bar i can't tell you

what's going on too that [ __ ] was real

dope to see like yo you was actually

usually anytime you start trending it's

some [ __ ] attached to it that's not

a shot at you that's just what we see

thanks

you're gonna tell me i said you didn't

shout at me

not not saying you do the [ __ ] but

it just be some [ __ ] attached one

way or another i'm always trending and i

never look

so it was and

and and i'm late to know that that's

really important to like the rest of the

world to trend that's all why do you

think they chase it so much

they're doing all kind of wow [ __ ] to

trend i get scared when a lot of people

start talking about me

yeah you'd be like yo hold up why i got

all these mentions what's going on yeah

what's that what's going on yeah points

why saying usually it's some [ __ ]

exactly well if you if you get

a million opinions

then they will differ right

and now it's just your little one brain

left to

decipher all of that but if it's an

overwhelming number in the positive

but it was you're welcome and i want to

shout out the podcasters man

this week and just the last just

recently podcasters are kicking ass oh

yeah like most of the important

information is coming from in our

community especially yes that's true

yeah the interviews they lucky elliot

lost his instagram i wonder why

he did yeah he started a new one

yeah i was wondering what happened with

that no these they they lucky but but

everybody's everybody's kicking ass

it's beautiful nora gave you your

flowers in the tweet oh my man

oh he got something coming buddy

let me tell you've got something coming

nori called me twice oh man [ __ ] he

texts me

uh noy always just supportive yo you've

seen him pick up with hoes he's always

supportive huh you seen he put a pickup

with holes

that's why i'm jealous scenario

that right there

y'all let nori leave

unimpeded

nobody pulled him back

nobody from the past popped up

nobody just started throwing tomatoes at

that [ __ ] y'all [ __ ] lifted that

[ __ ] to greatness

it's only me that gotta [ __ ] cut all

these scissors

off these hooks in my back ah

the journey is long

how do i gather the shrimp the other day

in the pouring rain

they lucky that lex was bugging out that

day i was gonna go run up them steps and

post the picture just to [ __ ] corey

asked the [ __ ] up don't tell me about

what you about to do when the summer

time is coming with all the workout [ __ ]

[ __ ] do it right now in the rain but i

ain't do it

i bet you dude i wanted to i wanted to i

know are you gonna blame it you know i

would love nothing more than to run up

the steps in the rain you're not

doubting that doom steps though no you

like the rain i feel like you would want

to slowly stroll you don't like it

you're not running up them steps it

won't be a fast run i'm not gonna i'll

be the one to fall down all those steps

even turn the corner

and my knees trying to get funky

sometimes

you better leave them all [ __ ] steps

along yeah all right so y'all don't have

anything more to share

on any of this just congratulations

congratulations

yeah

just congratulations and it was a great

interview at that too

all right jesse smallett

has been sentenced to five months in

jail and mad community service

finally

one of the sagas

appears to be over

there's mad more sagas out there there

is

but this one after years and years

seems to have come to an end

and he went off went off in the court

yes he did

he let y'all know he's not suicidal

he's not suicidal oh i'm lost at that

point part he's he's concerned that

maybe he would someone might try to

cause him

in the in the person i think he'd think

he epstein level

like they care

see and that's why this isn't this is

super interesting yo

cause i

normally salute [ __ ] that are gonna

die with the lie

but this is different

normally when you die with the lie

you're not trying to continue to extend

it you want to just die with the lies

that you've told already

you don't want to compound it with more

lies and give your brain more work when

you're already halfway caught now

you're going to kind of die with the

lies

new court

in general about 85 yeah you

this [ __ ] is remixing the line

and then i'm mad that i got to come in

and talk about it because his family

seems so honorable and nice and and

sweet and polite

and and well spoken and they just look

great

and sound great and they get on the

podium afterwards his brother and his

sister

adamant

and speaking with conviction about his

innocence

it's like damn man i hate to

i hate to see beautiful black people and

then say yo get the [ __ ] out of here but

your brother's a liar

your brother's all right well wait no no

no i'm not finished i'm not finished

with him i'm not i've been on his ass

i've been on his ass for years yeah you

gotta be waiting

this is why he's ill

he

said i am not suicidal

i am innocent

and i

could i haven't stopped thinking about

it since

in his brain

they could kill him over the subway

sandwich hoax

i don't even really process this i don't

think that's it what do you think it is

i think by putting that out there

he can he's trying to get himself moved

to a certain area where under certain

protections like yo i'm not suicidal i'm

not suicidal just to put the thought of

suicide out there so they might put him

under a watch where he's

it's a tactic it's a crock of [ __ ]

they're not going to put him in gen pop

he was never going i'm not saying jim

gotta get it i'm not saying jim pop i'm

just saying they might he still might be

trying to this could be a tactic

that's all i'm saying

no

i am not giving him that scapegoat this

ain't a tactic this mad [ __ ] you could

do uh in your cell and in transportation

you could talk talk to somebody and get

moved somewhere you can say the right

[ __ ] and get moved you ain't got to do

all of this in court as a [ __ ] famous

actor no i'm not rolling no no no no no

uh not after years and years of watching

this uh-uh

i think he'd think

they might kill him

you know

i hope you don't think that and that's

valid you can't even joke about it and

that's the problem with this sensitive

ass generation now this is what the

problem is

you get [ __ ] like this

you [ __ ] say some cool water cooler

[ __ ] that everybody got a rally behind

it'd be clear [ __ ]

but we can't say nothing

nah

he he won't end it

i respect that part

um

you guys shut up yo

shut the [ __ ] up

he put the he he walked out of court

with the black with the fist that's the

part i don't want to talk about like

no please you don't talk about it no

they [ __ ] be spitting it no look at

that no you this is doing you're doing

it's not hitting like it did when carl

lewis did it that's that's what i'm

saying

like you know what that means one cap

did it

you you you you're a victim [ __ ] even

when lebron and them [ __ ] when the

clippers didn't want to play the playoff

game they ain't giving that

then had the nerve to say if i if i i

wouldn't lie because that's like

punching in the face of all my ancestors

for the last four hundred years and yeah

you're playing every card

you playing every card now

and i i want i want

yo this society is [ __ ] up

but i want i want the community

to be louder about him being full of

[ __ ] why is everybody so quiet

you know why

nah

you know why

who they gonna trade him trade him for

this rest of the season

he got this has to be another punishment

he's going to come back to the hood

after that lie

i want to see what happens when he gets

um

released [ __ ] folded the whole show by

himself

that's a joke he didn't do that way to

work

but that got to be [ __ ] to make up a

lie to get a new contract on a show that

wasn't coming back anyway and now for

the rest next three years you're just

sitting there fighting the case

he's got to get the dodo of the last

three years award

it will get much worse than this dog he

looks great too man i feel bad for jesse

i'm just trying to he gets to die in the

hill award though yeah that's sometimes

like he gets that

yo you really never you rolled this to

the wheels fell off he started putting

more mountain to go higher up the hill

he started putting more turtles like

this what did you talk about climb the

flagpole top of the hill he said yo your

honor

i respect you i respect your decision

but i ain't do this

i am not suicidal see i don't even like

that halfway tough [ __ ] man uh spit at

the judge flipping the bird or something

do something and do something to see

many oh we gonna get to that man

we gonna get to it later

do something

middle finger to the camera to the news

something [ __ ] won't never work again

joe

he shouldn't work

don't say that he should still work

don't do that

i stopped myself

i stopped myself

not really like we were able to know

where you were what you were saying

y'all know enough of it came out i

should still be able to work [ __ ] have

been forgiven for much much much worse

[ __ ] and still

are able to feed their kids oh man see

see why i need to be in control

sometimes life would be so much more fun

he should continue to work i would cast

him as the guy to make up lies in every

crime show

law and order fbi

all of them [ __ ] die in the hill put him

in there to look stupid live this out

for the rest of your [ __ ] life

becomes his breath

you have to salute it i'd cast him and

make that [ __ ] happen to him

look what you did he said happen

this is what i mean yo

this is crazy

you you you oh man it's a cooper gonna

flap the [ __ ]

there is some real stand-up people out

here fighting for some real [ __ ] and

this is the hoax you made up there's a

lesson in that

let's hear it

shut the [ __ ] up sometimes just let some

information come out first

like people just want to jump out and

jump behind it because

other reasons outside of the facts

picture that happening nice i'm ju

just give it a minute though

picture that happening i think there's

more lessons than what you're saying we

went over this this lesson this is three

years old yeah we went over that to see

if i think the lesson here is yo you can

look even stupider

if this continues

there's a way there's a world

where you can look even dumber than you

look already

i feel like that's gonna be a consistent

theme this part

i do

look i feel bad for the trainers they

can't even go training at the gym in

peace you know the trainers they be

having sessions at the gym i mean [ __ ]

got to be there like 12 14 hours they

got to be there all it's answering

question yo man

you know what happened son can't even

really get that [ __ ] off damn man

damn it might have helped him

it might

it might

jesse they they talked to the brothers

they they flipped on you

i did that [ __ ] i know you thought they

were you always friends but the two

brothers slipped on you

hey these cops because they had it out

for you that wasn't enough for them they

went to the home depot man

they got the footage

they went to the gas station got the

little they saw you behind a little

thingamajiggy they pieced it together

hey they even found they read the text

they read your alabama yo go to hawaii

right after you they read it all

how on earth

see and that's the problem with [ __ ]

ain't from the hood yo

like in the hood

no

nah but in the hood we keep the law

nah but the a good lie has a good exit

strategy too

a good lie has a good out

what's the out here none which is why

i'm saying

he's just a bad

liar oh no question and he dealt with

any hood chick that would oppress him in

his cheating past he would have knew

that [ __ ] oh this would have been a

crock of [ __ ] from the jump yo

you know getting caught cheating bill's

character

and build skills yeah man you learn from

me and the new generation got me

thinking i'm crazy when these stories

break and i'd be like wait that happened

in chicago at the subway at 3 00 p.m at

3 a.m and nobody said and you left a

noose on your neck

it's a horrible lie yo

you walk into the police station with

the news still on

and now you want to tell me about the

last 400 years or some [ __ ] sorry buddy

sorry the [ __ ] i was really getting

nooses on they neck

they rolling over mad at you dumbass

in the car when we were talking

that was a good conversation but i was

about to say

we're in a good place in the simulation

right when you think about it because

you don't want to be in the car parks

huh

i was just looking out the window being

weird

say yeah

yo earth and human joke

this [ __ ] is ill when you think about it

but i was dead ass though it's just mad

strangers walking around

everybody with a history everybody going

through different [ __ ] and strangers

because they gave us that word means

it's okay to not know someone [ __ ]

nobody knows anybody we just we just

surviving out here facts and that's

pretty interesting to me right but we're

fishing as our first animals as i

further further the thought

this is a pretty good space to be in

like we got kobe jordan tiger woods

but you wouldn't want to be in the

beginning of this [ __ ] because they they

was bucking

they was bugging back then that's like i

saw oh and

okay

you wouldn't want to be at the end

like imagine with your great great great

like whatever that is is going to be

going through when it comes through on

the news oh [ __ ] yo comment here it's

about 19 minutes no all of us the aliens

put the gate around the

world dumb [ __ ]

floods it's gonna be a lot of that

we got the good time and that's weird

not to give corey any credit

but if his little atheist theory were to

be true

that's the only little part

that you think about right like it's so

much important grand [ __ ] going on

here in the universe why the [ __ ] do

humans think that god care about each of

us

like why do we think we that important

to know honestly

and it's mad of us

like honestly and i i'm not i'm not

rolling with none of that but

you ever look at anthill

oh come on dogs

tell me you don't step on aunt i don't

of course not

but do you think about each one of them

yeah i used to harass my mom for an ant

farm

what a loser think about that what he

said that's some real show we don't

think about them [ __ ] hands you don't

think about that steak when you eating

it neil i do

i do cause i could tell when some of

them [ __ ] wasn't being fed the greatest

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he was trusting

way and then you watch the cooking shows

and they show you steak from all over

the world like not just america but

everywhere you be like damn oh there's

nowhere these cows could go and just

chill they're killing under pressure

they're killing them [ __ ] everywhere

they're catching flights to india they

sacrifice los angeles they're not eating

meat out there

they head right there laying problems

tough to be avocado a cow could just

walk around yeah he could be chill or

raw slow spot make a friend with that

angus until i'm horse get mad

oh man all right um

jesse i hope you do these five months

well bro glad it ain't me

i ain't gonna hold you

so y'all hey i knew to get out of my

life before it hit the court

you guys hey justin you got a lot of

people who can't like really punish you

you all got video footage

yo you know who can't handcuff you and

just throw you away somewhere he

probably could have saved himself some

trouble by being like you know actually

never mind

somewhere like a while ago like yo he

was supposed to call

uh what's the [ __ ] uh

terence howard yo

he's supposed to call somebody

look at him

i see why i see why they quiet they

take him away

yo you stupid yo

holy [ __ ] come on move on

okay so so shorty shorty gonna get

locked up

who that who who is shorty is the chris

brown trip

i don't know her name is that the way

you segway things was that you yeah

well i mean right though speaking of you

know false claiming stuff and we got to

put that in your contract no segways

yo shorty gonna be good

yeah there's no there's no penalty for

that

that's crazy oh more liars i see what

you did i see how you connected that day

huh

yeah no probably not nuts nothing yeah

that's the problem that isn't i agree

you can intro it

uh shorty that said chris brown uh did

something flagrant

uh he put out some voice notes and some

texts

that make it appear otherwise and then

her attorney

saw those messages and quickly dropped

her from

that case

or stopped representing her anyway

she found a new lawyer

and three million hours of community

service like jesse found

it to stop that dumb [ __ ]

the same way that they let press in the

court

to watch the proceeding i want to watch

his community service

you want to see how he picks up the

thing with a little poker

you mad

i want to watch i want them out there

you mad you want to they're going to get

i was that dude with that little thing

with the poker yeah i'm gonna get all

the trash out look at all the trash out

yo look at the [ __ ] you gotta do a

community service compete about who pick

up the trash the best

community service was trash because it

was early as hell on saturday morning

like friday wasn't about to get lit like

come on man i'm not going to this [ __ ]

and i'm not riding in this whatever this

is oh no i was driving no license to

pulling right up to the site

aren't you here for driving a lot of

license uh yeah my career was so rough

yo look what i did

community you should have filmed that

none of the kids do that anymore

community service i'm sure it's so thin

i'm sure they still do

yeah they do it yeah

graffiti

maybe

go home with blisters on your hand

uh so what else what else wanna do music

um yeah we got new music

uh where i wanna start hip-hop or no

no we gotta start with that lucky day

there you go he dropped early

there you go and for the first time you

know i always talk about i don't want to

wake up and listen to r b i'll go up and

listen to r b today first thing you

played was army this morning i did how

did it make you feel it felt pretty good

it's pretty up tempo this time okay at

least the first couple songs was nice

and up a little coffee

i didn't do the coffee yet

lucky where's your coffee

there you go

alex yo go ahead

alex cause you like the ish whisperer yo

like

can you get your guy right because if

this is a glimpse of his tour act

oh you had some lucky in the morning

i would jump across that stage he's

stupid

that's gonna be this [ __ ]

he don't listen to hip-hop i mean he

don't listen to arnold schwarzenegger in

the morning because it's usually a

little sleepier but this was a little up

all right well this upbeat that's

different yeah

i'm talking about that you know the [ __ ]

the sleepy r b that joe usually plays

i can't listen to that in the morning

absolutely not right back to bed

afternoon right back to bed

instant cult classic from lucky day

the melody reminds me of a little frank

oceanesque

in a good way

instant

instant

cult classic

from lucky day

i don't even know where to begin

honestly

i was ready to come in here and dedicate

this entire podcast to lucky day what a

man

what a guy he did it he did it wednesday

night

i'm out and about took a nap too so i

was wide awake at around midnight 12 30

straight to the strip club to shake some

ass

wait wait you were sick

don't say that you were stripping

i didn't want to say no

no no yeah we got

make some money why because there's

something wrong with a guy shaking ass

at the strip club anywhere

you said you got up at 12 o'clock to go

shake your ass at the strip club yeah

you got tip

no i don't work there

i work for god

come on man go ahead y'all want to

interrupt me with this stupid [ __ ] y'all

know what i mean i went to see some ass

[ __ ] get shaking

right

and they doing a drill set thing in new

york

[Laughter]

they're doing that the whole thing and

i'm in there i'm just looking around

strippers making gun fingers yeah

they throw signs up and everything they

claim they say yo yo and maybe now's not

the time to talk about it but

great time in new york for strip clubs

is it

phenomenal how so

there's more good strip clubs now than

there's been there's probably only been

three maybe two other strip club phases

or periods

uh when sews was bobbing when sin city

was bobbing

but there's man competition now and

there's a lot more beautiful women

so what do you think is uh is that a

result of the pandemic no

it's evolution okay

what's happening with the strip clubs is

what happened with

everybody in netflix netflix was

startled starlets was

alone standing here when sin city closed

and then a few other people looked

around and said nah we can do that too

we can do that so they're doing it we

have so that is like five or six good

spots so i'm telling you all story but

the story is me going to the wack spot

first so you go to the wack spot they're

doing a drill and not whack but just not

really popping and they're doing a drill

set thing and somebody on twitter said

yo i know you heard that lucky day

dropped early i said excuse me

you left boy that was fly no

no i went went to my phone put the

earpods

i hit purchase went up to the dj booth i

put the phone in my ear

just to see what was going on and the

first track was the interlude an intro

he was talking and i skipped that but

i'm in the strip club with the phone to

my ear

and then track two came on which was

this

are you kidding me i saw maybe i could

play rb in the morning are you kidding

me

to start an album like this i'm about to

fan out i'm about to fan now all right

rock out son

oh my god you've been waiting on this oh

no

look at that [ __ ] key change let's go

let's go

turn us off a minute to the people

unfamiliar with why why i'm speaking

about lucky day like this it is tough to

be he's about 98 from the field since

you've heard of him

yeah

i challenge anybody to tell me

the three lucky day songs that they

didn't like i challenge you you can't do

it

i tried

he was a little iron man him and earth

went in fire came in was like hey

but that was still kind of a vibe

him and babyface i came in here and said

hey enough paying respect

enough paying homage

you great

be great he did the duet ep

phenomenal

put out two of his own old eps wanted

one had misunderstood the other way a

flood like

what are we talking about with this guy

he's been a new male r b blueprint

since he got here

he's nice he didn't do what you other

[ __ ] did pop up with a classic and

disappear no shots

he didn't come with two great projects

and then disappeared

he didn't go fall in love we got to

enjoy this before he go get a

relationship and go start bugging

but right now what it looks like

is exactly what it looked like when he

came and performed at the pool party a

few years ago a guy that is just truly

in love with music let me ask you um

and you don't start your album like this

if you're not how long has he been

active

like how many years

six years

okay okay i came in here and played roll

some mo at park's old crib

and then he did the pool boy it had to

be about five years

about five years

his rollout for me introduction that

roll out has been was similar to her

they slow rolled they slow rolled him

okay

he had to get the attention and he got

the support and then he had to just keep

making phenomenal music like roll some

more was so great a few r b [ __ ] tried

to copy that

it's so great i like the copies of it

like i said misunderstood different he

just hasn't missed so now you drop your

debut

is this his debut technique yeah yeah i

guess so this is his debut

everything else was eps yeah this is his

debut album and this is a cult classic

this is this is some musical [ __ ]

[Music]

it's just super cohesive the interludes

from this

are the same as or similar to some of

the uh interludes in the past

it's it's just a complete picture he

completed this

he started out with the up tempos

midway got right in his bag shout out to

dirk on here we'll talk about him

shortly as well

but i don't know what to say

cult classic it sounded really good to

me well done you know i'm not the big r

b guy

it sounded good to me first thing in the

morning that's how i was going to ask

you joe as you being a huge fan of his

um you're pleased with this i'll take it

better than please

way better than please okay

see because the being a fan of his

makes it tougher that that's why i ask

that it makes it tough when you're a fan

of somebody and they put out a project

you're gonna you're a little bit

like tougher on it

because i know what i want from you as a

fan yeah but you don't make

floods and

rosemode and misunderstood

like you you don't have the ability to

even make those records

and not be able to do this yeah i love

when something comes out

and i like it you know what i'm not like

disappointed someone that's something

you're anticipating you're looking

forward to especially from someone that

doesn't have like a huge body of work

and they deliver that's what i was

laughing like yo i'm in the strip club

with the the phone to my ear damn this

feel good like that feels good they

anticipate something like that it's like

when you used to [ __ ] put the tape in

on the top of the or the tissue on the

top of the tape i want to tape something

from the radiator

we couldn't wait for the release like

that excitement about music i think is i

think that's what's missing a lot and

that's what people are trying to

manufacture quickly and you can't

you can't do that from a tick tock you

can't do that from just having a hard

song real quick you [ __ ] keep trying

to skip the work yeah

he came to the back to the pool party

and performed

yeah he did the bet highlight thing

where you know they put the new artist

on for 20 seconds before the commercial

break he did that did he do a great a

quick grammy similar type of thing where

it was a

short

something like that half half a verse

performance

look at this guy man candy drip the

looks it's colorful

this is hard joe

he's that dude

didn't do an interview i even liked how

he did it

in an early drop

and earlier

that's bold that take balls to do that

it didn't seem didn't seem loud and i

want attention it's just

all right

let the art do it

and it did it

that's dope that [ __ ] is nice that's

dope that's a nice project

congratulations to lucky day it's a nice

explanation

it's dope

you know it's just real good real good

uh what else we got in the r b world

alright the scientist

right yeah

little four pack

buckles laboratories presents the

intermission ep

with uh with the funky sensor tv covered

thingamajiggy

how's it sound

good i like to be out of four that's

good that's not bad that's a great point

four back yeah on the field pack that's

great and i allow her grace because

she's she's she ain't where her bag is

gonna be yet right like this is a new

bag she's figuring it out yeah and

that's why she's gonna keep four packing

us and ep and us to death but i [ __ ]

i like that though i like when artists

that aren't quite there yet just give me

short projects you know what i'm saying

like and i like when you can hear that

they're going to get there yeah yeah and

that's what i hear when i listen to

mariah the scientist i [ __ ] with her

good project

right what else we got come on give us

the

you know get breakthrough [ __ ] off

because that's not my bag i don't really

know much about that knock it off yo

stop it

y'all know me midnight came and i was

glued to the phone waiting waiting for

what dirk to drop

that's it

i saw you also proclaiming it at instant

classic immediately i did that to [ __ ]

those for lols yeah okay people you know

they used to do it with

certain artists as soon as they drop

it's a classic as soon as you hear the

first note classic but no um

i gave the dirk project

two run-throughs immediately

like i actually went to bed late i don't

like doing that [ __ ]

came out the gate

so from the singles i didn't know what

we were gonna get with this album the

singles were drill dirk okay

i like both there's drill dirk and then

there's pain dirk

payne dirk is the auto tune sing-songy

melodic

singing about you know

drug abuse and losing the homies and

this type of [ __ ] and then drill dirk is

i'm coming fine shoot you on your

[ __ ] face

for better what was i i felt like i

listened to it once it felt like there

was a little more pain dirk on this a

lot more pain dirt okay but the singles

so aha was a single okay that's drill

dirk um piss me off was a single okay

drill dirt so i'm like oh okay you're

gonna give us more of that on this album

like he's been teasing for a couple

years now uh no auto dirk was a project

okay where it was gonna be just rapping

no singing so i'm like okay maybe this

is gonna be more towards that

because we never got the project so

anyway i'm listening

started from first record i hear piano

keys there's a lot of pianos yeah and

i'm like okay

and he gets right into his back just

the [ __ ] that i've been going through he

dealt with a lot of loss recently

talking about his brother dying talking

about you know losing vaughn talking

about

the shootout there's a record called

shootout in my crib yeah

so it's it's

very vulnerable

biographical yeah yeah yeah so i liked

it i like it i i think out of and the

other thing i liked about it is when the

tracklist came out i only saw maybe four

features

which to me i love because i want to

hear what he has to say i don't want you

to do a project loaded with all the best

features in the game

i can go it depends

you've done that quite a few times okay

so i want to hear what you have to say

not necessarily saying that they will

carry you

but i just want to hear dirk

like the last project was a joint

project with a little baby

i want to hear dirk i want to hear what

you you've dealt with so much let me

hear you and this is what he did on this

project so

um i think i was at maybe 12 out of 17

that i like

which i'm not mad at because 17 is a is

a pretty lengthy album today i hate that

we even do that in hip-hop like why do

we have to say how many songs we like

three hours after it came out well no

i've

i don't know you might

i've been playing this [ __ ] all day i

ain't listening to nothing else

like this is it

so i don't know how many listeners i'm

at now but uh yeah it's a great dirk

project

um

congrats to them to the team yeah yeah

this is you got one

and i also they uh they dropped the

million dollar game episode

with uh him gillian wallow

which is you know in promotion for the

album and uh one thing i know everyone

probably saw it already it was with

wallows talking to dirk

about forgiving his brother's killer

and why he needed to do that to grow

like i could have stayed here and stayed

in this mode and it would have been my

downfall

but i had to let that go to go here

because i got people to take care of

so i was hearing that message yeah that

that was very powerful to hear him say

that to dirk in that room with all the

dirk is going through

in that setting and the whole thing like

you got 30 40 [ __ ] behind you so your

old head you're preaching to the younger

generation and he's saying basically if

i took that route i wouldn't be here

talking to y'all today because i would

have killed the [ __ ]

i would have went right back to jail and

i would have cost my family

way more than just

my brother being gone i would have been

gone too right and that [ __ ] hit home

and you could see the emotion in it you

know what i'm saying like he really

trying to give

some game no pun intended to uh

dirk and all like crew because the [ __ ]

going back and forth back and forth back

and forth might not end well and and

wallow has that motivational speaker

voice now yeah yeah so you put that on

in that room no you look at him like

that no that's what i mean i mean i'm

saying he's in that bag like dawg he's

really in that space

i love that and what i took like

wallow has he's sort of you know he's

his street record

is legit

so

because i've seen people

regular people on twitter who have

nothing to do with any of this oh they

need to stop you know it's easy for

y'all to say they're not going to pay

attention to you maybe hearing it from

somebody that's respected in the same

streets that you're in

might hit a little different

so i like the fact that somebody who has

some street cred

is talking to him that way this type of

[ __ ] we've talked about a million times

outcast exactly oh gee [ __ ] yeah oh gee

[ __ ] i think um

don't worry you know that [ __ ] yeah they

don't i think i don't know just doing it

though i don't even know what resonates

like that i just think the fact that

just doing it you gotta start somewhere

[ __ ] 20 years in jail dawg i could tell

you where what's gonna happen

i can tell you clearly

[ __ ] paint a picasso of what's gonna

happen if you for most of you

[ __ ]

it's either going to be jail or worse

and some people say jail is worse than

death but yo dawg i could write

out what's going to happen to you and so

i think being that he lived that

literally it resonates way way way more

than even his street cred that's kind of

what the jail [ __ ] really solidifies yo

dog i know where you're going for real

for real i've been there already right

it was a powerful clip no i was dope

slew to wallow man

and gilly and dirk yes yes

uh what else what else we got teddy

benny

benny drop benny drop santa talk four

drop and we're back with a special guest

he brought his brother family i wouldn't

put that on a plane royce is here

what up what up all the way from the d

thank you for joining us

voice is here in case i needed to be

coveted in love

we don't do that

yeah y'all do but race is different you

[ __ ] man y'all don't get the full

scope sometimes like that's true y'all

come in here and just want like i said

at the top [ __ ] to be mature

but it's hip hop

it's rap it's provocative

no it's not always time to be mature so

anything that i anything that i've

wanted to get off that i didn't get off

i've just been calling royce all week

and just give it a dip

so now we're here because i thought i

had to brace up with love

oh okay

but tana talked four first let's do it

he dropped alchemist darren drawing the

beats uh just them two

i think so b butcher i think took some

samples uh there might be someone else

on that i'm forgetting but uh it's a

real silent project man it's uh sounds

like tanner talk yeah yeah it is it is

stove guard went crazy on there conway

went crazy on there uh the west side gun

record is dope today's project i love

benny yo

yeah like i'm biased

to him

like i hope that he succeeds and does

great with all music he releases but i

like him how could you not

i look at him but outside of that i'm a

weirdo right like he's on def jam

in 2022

tasked with

kind of bringing that yeah bringing that

energy back

this project was i think independent

though this is empire i believe yeah

it's part of the plan yeah no doubt in

the freestyle he said yo

street nigga's about to get some label

support or whatever the line was but

that's what he's tasked with so when i

look at him it just reminds me of when i

got to def jam yes

he went crazy up there too at the uh l.a

leakers

shout out to l.a leakers man you kind of

got to go up there and go crazy now

credit royce with some of that

and flex benny toe tag that [ __ ]

sure did

i can't wait to see what they end up

doing with

vinnie's [ __ ] i'm curious too shout out

to benny shout out to the hoga zelda

always good project tana talk four out

all right what else we got music come on

oh [ __ ]

i said he's not giving a review

i ain't listening yet you said you

didn't hear it no

it's just too wise and mature

and that is why there's never happened

and that yeah you don't have itunes and

there's android over there

so it's royce and i here give the review

break it down

oh y'all just gonna feed us to the woods

hey man who better so this is what this

look like yeah yeah yeah what program is

this this is a dj dj app dj pro

okay

it's pretty good and this is the [ __ ]

jar that is the [ __ ] jar you know oh

dollar four with the real dollars in it

and you made me owe a dollar

did i have credit in there nah yeah

because ish and i

we don't we got to get our speech better

we use that word a lot like casual stop

you do wait

[ __ ] yeah

yo shout out to my man g money that made

us the [ __ ] jar yo that's a little

different another dollar

yeah yeah yeah one of the fans made it

sent it one of their fans made it they

bought that [ __ ] from target and wrote

some things on the side still though

but i appreciate the effort

and the energy see that's what we was

just talking about i appreciate when

people actually take time and put effort

and energy into whatever they're doing

for me and it starts

so they roll on the job

four

three two

go now i am trying to figure out what

kind of review i'm giving here am i

giving it with

my therapist ears that i listened with

am i giving it with my mc ears that i

listened with that'll that'll be bad

that want to be bad

or do i want to just

give it with the friend i could find the

sugar brands and ears that i listened

with and shout out to benny for picking

that [ __ ] done started something beat

like these [ __ ] be running from the

90s beats

they'd be running from them beats where

it was x like it was

dude

yeah he go right to it

so i appreciate that from him now

the rise and fall of us

and full of y'all

came out early

are we judging it based off of

what we feel that they can do

are we judging it based off of

it's a it's a few different ways to look

at it

one way to look at it is

if it if it gave you what you would set

which you set out to to fit like the

fulfillment that you were looking for

if it provided that for you and we don't

qualify to be able to say yeah we can't

figure that y'all hit y'all mark or

y'all didn't hit your mark

if there was a certain um

if there was a certain reaction that

they were looking for from us

i would need to know what what that is

and the way i feel that's interesting i

don't think that they i don't think that

they intended for me to feel like this

when you say if they hit they mark what

you mean

well i mean what was the goal here as

the artist

yeah that's everything like did they

feel fulfilled once they put the project

out yeah you know because i mean i i

have my um my theories on what the goal

may have been for the rollout and then

the music is the music what target were

you trying to hit with the music does

the music match the roll out because

i've i heard y'all mention that every

song is not about y'all

every song is not about us okay or about

the fall of slaughterhouses i think the

overall the overall theme of the music

if if we had to sum it up

it's

it's pretty consistent with the rollout

i just think the rollout was a little

the rollout affected me a little bit

more

i'm sure it was then actually hearing so

like a salacious roll out then the music

did

you think that might have been a goal

though for the rollout to affect you and

to get you to respond to the rollout

which will then put light on the album

because i mean they did keep saying just

wait until you hear the album

where do you hear it listen to it

like that they kept saying that at least

joelle did

so

i was thinking it was like a little

hidden treat on there for me like

something that i needed to

but

no there's no flowers

for me it was a little it was i'll get

to i'll start it for me

after the rollout

after the insta live with joelle

and then the album dropping for me it

just was a little anti-climatic

like seemed like the roller coaster like

was like the wood roller coaster at

great adventures like it you watch it go

up it's going up and it's going up and

then you expect to you expect and then

it's

a little let down and then i was mad a

little bit see i've been dealing with

just like a roller coaster of emotions

i'm sure

like

i was a little disappointed that it

wasn't more of more spice yeah you

[ __ ] got me round up i said the same

thing

i mean

you are come on you in it now you know

what i mean you're in it now so what

i mean don't do it don't halfway do it

do it i i just

man

i just

it almost seemed like bait

like it's like if i was trying to diss

somebody first and i throw out the

little

just throw out a little something

something just get you the mouse trap

it felt like a mousetrap

but with monetary gain attached yeah it

speaks to their um

their their

sense of quality control

and this is a perfect example of [ __ ]

that they do

away from the group

because when you step outside of what

we're doing in the group

there's a such thing as things that you

can do to bring down the quality of the

brand and there's such there's a such

thing as things that you can do to raise

the quality of the brand you know you go

do reality tv or you go do your pie you

come back to the group

now the the overall quality is up a

little bit it's happened plenty of times

i did bad means evil then the numbers

went up you did

the show the numbers went up you know i

mean so like

i think it is there's a such thing as a

reverse to that so there's things that

you can do

that

affect you and affect us you know what i

mean and i don't think that they were

conscious of that you know i mean and i

never was really tripping

until it started to turn into us getting

blamed

for all of the

[ __ ] up decisions that they make

you know what i mean like i i know

that if you were in the studio with us

that one crooked verse that i like on

the album it would have been that on

every single song

you know what i mean so it's like

whenever i'm thinking of something doing

something lyrically

in my mind i do great or i do nothing

period

you know what i'm saying if you go in

there and you just do [ __ ] just to do

[ __ ]

you're gonna get out of that what you

put into it the thing that i don't

appreciate is this time you made it my

fault

you know what i'm saying and then you

came

at us

in a way where you know that's not

enough

you're just putting us in a position you

know what i'm saying like if we stoop to

any of these levels

we just make y'all [ __ ] look crazy

crazier then y'all look you know that

[ __ ] man you know it it's not a line on

that album that they need to be

comparing

to what to to anything

that i'm going to do especially if i'm

upset

so i you thinking got to be about a rap

battle you know what i mean like it's a

it's a so so rapper rapper brain was not

activated

any time somebody think they could play

with play with my name

any time but then the [ __ ] that's

playing that be playing with my name

they should be playing with money i got

even even six years retired or how long

has been i feel like my track record

speaks for it itself i don't have to and

i wouldn't want to ever do that with

them if they haven't if they're gonna do

that if that was their if their

intention was to just

battle [ __ ] like get [ __ ] in there

and it'd be us versus them they would

have rap better way better than that

do you think the intention could have

been to like get you all excited about

something just to get you all activated

in some type of way

no no

i just i just think it was careless

it feels that way to me

it was

unsupervised

everything though

just like everything the way they dress

in the videos their pants everything you

know what i mean like it's just hey

i'm serious though

no

did you like crooked pants in the video

all right i'm playing devil's advocate

that's what i'm going to do i'm going to

play devil's angry hey

may

maybe we're just wrong

somehow what do you say to the people

that just say hey shut the [ __ ] up y'all

are wrong y'all been wrong y'all was

holding [ __ ] up we're wrong people

decided to and people and the other two

members decided to do something

different they decided to go they waited

for y'all y'all didn't want to do [ __ ]

so we took it in our own hands to just

do [ __ ] and how could you fault that

what do you say to that

i don't have a problem with them rapping

i'm not wrong about [ __ ]

all i said was all i said was

we have an agreement in a group

in business and then we have a standard

that we hold each other to as friends

so

just speaking from a business standpoint

if you decided that you were done

the correct way to do that was to just

just tell us

and it would have been cool

you know what i mean like you you kept

that a secret so now we get into the

friend part

you knew that when you when you made

this decision that you were going to

blindside me

and you're willing to kind of like take

that risk

and just do that for whatever reason i

don't need to assume it's just it's what

it is you made a decision

knowing

that the friendship would be a risk if

you did it

you know that okay all right you knew

that you you knew that you were going

out there into an environment and you

were going to create an atmosphere that

were going to turn

some of the fans against me there was

going to be a lot of

misinterpretations and people

uh a lot of things being said that's

misleading that will force people to

jump to a conclusion and you allow them

to believe [ __ ] that you know it's not

true about me and you know i don't play

like that i don't play with you like

that i don't play with nobody like that

and our relationship was fine like all

of these issues that they're talking

about

that's what the problem i didn't feel

that honestly that's part of it's been

confusing to me it's like

joe

i love you

i can see why they might

use you as bait

right

i don't think it's right you stumped for

why i'm stumped like i'm nervous i'm not

stumped about me right plenty of [ __ ]

but right feel the way about me

yeah that's the part to me it's like huh

yeah but you're next to joe

you and now now i got to try to figure

out why it looked like you next to joe

and i have to interpret that a certain

way and listening to them

he said he said i said it he said that i

said no to the to the idea of doing a

three-man group

so he looked at it like i he said yet

again

he took joe's side and i was hurt see i

thought that was hard

no pun i thought that was super dope

what was

that word said now if we ain't doing it

and doing it if it ain't all four of us

then it ain't all

four of us i think they took that

as i'm taking your side not him like

let's say it was

you and joelle

and crook didn't want to do it i believe

works would have that same stance

look at it that way of course i would me

too of course i would i think that's

what

in this particular

scenario

joe wasn't out

and they know that

so why would you ask they both say they

don't know that that's what i think they

both say they don't believe that i think

that's the biggest biggest biggest knock

from the fans in reading everything that

i've read is that

the wide

perception is joe said i'm never rapping

again

and so based on him saying that

it's like yo

so that mean you out too because joe not

rapping no more

all right cool we're gonna go to us

and y'all stance is cool do you all but

john god do what do y'all and [ __ ] on us

to do y'all when should the fan

perspective be included in the business

and

the brotherhood when you market it when

you market and you roll out to the fan

you got to get the fan appreciation you

got to win them over

by making them hate us in line

if that's what they think going to work

there's some people that roll out trying

to be true to self and just appeal to as

many people as

that can get you might not be the most

profitable it might ain't work i mean

they they just put a project out i do

personally believe that there's a way

they could kind of do the same thing

without it being nasty they could have

did that [ __ ] that's all that's

disappointing yeah that's the other part

that's disappointing once you hear the

project

oh this was a choice

y'all did not have to go this route

there's other songs on here y'all are

more than capable mcs see and this is

where all right mc brain i like heart

taper down

taper down

i played it as a sleeper

now what uh the last step hard

you know i keep saying

rule number one if you want to be a

rapper is well have something to say

what are you saying

i'm consistent in that

it was lazy there too

so don't come to me

who is

documented

like i ain't getting into that

i agree with him if you was coming to me

like that

more should have happened like it should

have been a higher respect

but it's just no respect all around the

board and the dis

and the quality and putting it together

in the rollout

but i think where where i'm where i'm at

now is

yeah it's open and stuck they didn't

care thank you

i think that i think they weighed it all

they thought about it all and you weigh

options and you pick one

and you win you and you cut your ties

you cut your losses

there's nothing there's nothing going on

here everything they said see some of

that should just be real surface hey i'm

cutting my losses we didn't do nothing

in 10 years so that's that i'm blowing

it up before i walk out the door and

i'll get whatever game comes with that

and that's where grace got to come in

yeah that speaks to this that speaks to

the short night the short-sighted nature

of like

the way that they move as creators and

as businessmen

and it's like

if you're that kind of business man

that's cool everybody's not an executive

but it's like this road being played

like you know

i'm a

i'm a business mogul you know said like

bro

why can't we all have that conversation

i see that a lot too everybody talking

the internet why why is it so tough for

four people to get together and talk

well you don't live in the same city to

start you know i don't want to talk

no i don't want to say we live in the

same living space yeah i mean it adds a

little bit of a challenge oh please

we're here at home in 2022 get on the

zone call yeah i mean just we just

watched everybody maneuver through the

paradigm that way every time we have a

conversation on zoom

and we did a bunch of them all four of

us

i'm at the studio

you don't leave the studio so

yeah i'm at the studio more than i'm at

home yeah

and they never been invoiced for studio

time at my studio never been to tom they

crooked has come to my studio

i ain't you know he's in detroit he's

doing a show on the east side with

swifty mcveigh or somebody and he'd just

be like yo i'm in detroit what up he

come through and knock down nine

features in five minutes

and be gone you know what i'm saying

like

he can use my studio

i i'm surprised he ain't have have a key

you know i mean like he knows

that it's

accessible to him

carte blanche all the time

same with joel

he came

showed up with apollo brown

i just wrote a verse right there on the

spot laid it down

it'd never been a time where it was like

you know mikasa sukasa you know i'm

saying so

when we were having conversations

creative conversations about things that

we could do once we

once we took the brand off of shady and

owned it all right

the big picture that we all were talking

about was just

number one

um

regaining ownership of the master of the

first album

all of the previous catalog that we have

all of the mixtapes did you achieve that

enough yeah we got off we got everything

that's amazing

yeah clap back

so it's um

it's a much bigger play here than just

being able to agree on doing some new

music right away right you know like

while we're figuring that out

there's there's there's a brand that

needs to be relaunched

you know so my thing is i can't come

behind what y'all are doing

and say fans here buy this t-shirt right

if it's two two people that i'm talking

to one of them is gonna say [ __ ] you i

hate your guts and then the other one is

gonna say i thought you all broke it up

you know i mean i i'm a day one fan you

know what i mean i just believe

i believe their story because they you

know they created this yin and yang

atmosphere

you know at our expense so you don't

believe that they have raised the value

with all of this

nonsense

bro they they

they're killing the value and it's not

my opinion it's a fact

until somebody can prove me otherwise

you know

like i seen like maul was like yo look

it said so long i don't think that many

people care but it's like yo i disagree

it's set so long where people aren't

sitting around

thinking

that some new slaughterhouse [ __ ] is

coming

but if we

if we pull the trigger on something and

we activate something

we can we can raise the level of

excitement

easy no problem that was where it was

disappointing too because it's like

watching this [ __ ] y'all doing like

you know what the energy is when it's

four [ __ ] doing

doing it but that's what the fans want

it

that's what the fans want so it's like

they

they encouraging something and they

rooting for something

that they think

i'm saying

and i'm not rolling with that i'm not

rolling with that i'm giving

slaughterhouse fans a little more credit

with that these [ __ ] i see this

rolling with this this nonsense dang