Code Of Conduct feat. Omar Epps
Joe Budden Podcast Episode 522, “Code Of Conduct feat. Omar Epps,” released March 31, 2022. Will Smith and Chris Rock have dominated the news cycle and the guys recap the slap heard around the world (6:07). Joe and the crew also discuss Tyler Perry's role-playing as Madea (1:26:17), Benny the Butcher and Freddie Gibbs tension (1:33:56), and T.I. quitting podcasting because it wasn't lucrative enough (1:40:21). Next a friend of the show and actor, Omar Epps joins the pod (1:48:13) +MORE! Full transcript and searchable timestamps below.

In this episode
- 6:07Will Smith and Chris Rock have dominated the news cycle and the guys recap the slap heard around the world
- 1:26:17Joe and the crew also discuss Tyler Perry's role-playing as Madea
- 1:33:56Benny the Butcher and Freddie Gibbs tension
- 1:40:21T.I. quitting podcasting because it wasn't lucrative enough
- 1:48:13Next a friend of the show and actor, Omar Epps joins the pod
Joe Budden Podcast Ep. 522 Transcript
Full transcript of Code Of Conduct feat. Omar Epps (3:10:14 long). Search it, or click any timestamp to jump to that moment.
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let me know y'all will be live parks we're live we've been live yo you will sneak and hit the button i
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will you want me intro to pop yeah yeah actually let's get ish
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give us one have you learned about energy i don't know
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i could do all that fam that's your job though but i could do it if need be wait what's my job
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the energy thing we all have energy what do you mean no but i don't have to exhibit mine in the
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way that you do yours you'll be you're on your coaching [ __ ] why so you're the first friend to
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actually finally yo yo yo yo let's go let's go let's go but i do that i'm gonna get buckets i
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don't mean uh it's like yo magic come out like yeah but if need be you could be energy of course
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all right well i'm just saying to intro to pod you need some energy i know all right so i'm showing that now you got it though no go ahead you're
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back i thought you was getting your music i'm not ready yet go ahead no no this is great cause we're here today
- 1:03
we're here today but it's not just that i need a third like underneath what i'm doing over here let me fill you
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i mean no
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if you think i'm gonna be doing cartwheels all across that stage while you sit back licking your [ __ ] lips you got me all over now let me tell you
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something buddy all right i saw you i saw somebody i saw some of your other toys
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i'm telling you something yo talk to your man i saw some of your other tours there was no cartwheels going on you came out with your smoke jacket on you
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know what i'm saying on your fred g sanford [ __ ] and you made it happen i saw it
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listen this could be our first intro less pod don't need an intro no i'm still
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debating about whether i want to have one but we don't really need one like we can
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get right to it y'all know what we're here to talk about so let's get to it
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go peacocks man round of applause how about that huh come on y'all know where i'm at with
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it you know where i'm at with it st peters
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get doubly applaused huh jersey city [ __ ] yeah that's where
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i'm at with it shout out jersey city uh city shout out to the peacocks hell of a run they're getting a parade they're
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getting a parade i might just pull up man yeah they're getting a parade they're getting a parade that's dope jersey city was my first new york hall
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nah that's super dope man considering that program the athletics i think uh if
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i read correctly what 1.6 million dedicated versus teams with 20 million
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top scouts in the uh top prospects like come on man yeah we didn't give them their proper
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respect while it was happening because we were just pardoning not just that we watched the game after watching the game
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yeah we weren't but that was a national story and they deserve all the credit in the
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world that's amazing they do come on shout out to shaw absolutely yeah sean make me feel old
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though why do you remember what he played yeah he was in high school with me well no i
- 3:18
was outside of school before him you know he wasn't in there with you because he was in the mcdonald's game
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with kobe you know 96 i was in high school in 96 i know well i wasn't but
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you're supposed to supposedly
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why don't we hear from them what did they start doing not podin
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[ __ ] drop out you just don't know yeah they don't have a voice oh listen if pods existed back
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then oh my god yo i would have the most lit pot ever literally probably to drop out of school
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and pod about your experience outside of school are you kidding me that was my first time getting head that was my
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first time two girls liking me that's my first time let's see let's hit the liquor store that's thrown you in the
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house you know fcc in the pod game it was no fcc thinking about [ __ ] until uh true until uh uh 9 11. nah
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how was sterling no that was getting fined and all that before that yeah it's true but it was no they cracked down when i was on i-97
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when i got there it was a whole new rule implemented because something else had happened something happened somebody pissed
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somebody off somebody said some [ __ ] the star was down before you oh that was the titty what year did janet do the titty that
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was cs was started here before you well hot yeah he was there before you
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yeah he was still there when he was there or no no so that might have been it something happened because he was well
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you know star had them [ __ ] that's that's when they introduced uh a delay but anyway we're not getting into all that city was all for come on we got
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[ __ ] to talk about man microphone [Music]
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[Applause] [Music] welcome to episode 522 of the joe budden
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podcast i'm your humble grateful gracious and highly favorite host joe budden here with a few of my nearest
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and dearest parks is here brother ish's here isis here young boys in the backyard here yeah
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all right before we get to the important matters at hand we are going on tour april 28th houston texas may 1st we're
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in dallas you know the vibes may 28th we are in l.a and may 29th oakland california
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tickets are on sale right now round of applause yes sir oh [ __ ]
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you won't even close it i hate this joebunpodcasttour.com
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we'll see you on the road let's get tickets bring a plus one we're gonna have a blast yeah we got some fun and
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that's that man all right let's get right to it the smack heard around the world
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no you know why i ain't starting there well we starting with that topic but y'all wasn't here is anybody gonna tell
- 6:14
me i'd be right about whatnot i hate that's why i love parks and
- 6:20
that's why i love parks i was going to ask the same question well you could ask that and you could
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ask that joe budden's will smith conversation started where and how many years ago and
- 6:33
what was he saying you've been on him for a minute i started it
- 6:39
yeah he probably i started it you probably no one else was on that it was me i don't know what that is
- 6:46
well i'm gonna tell you gotcha but i wanna highlight his ass for a second because he does this often
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he'd be there for the birth of some wild [ __ ] joe says he'd be part of the crowd that laughs and scoffs and mimics and oh
- 7:00
you know the [ __ ] i'm crazy and adds to that narrative and then when it come around and be right it'd be this
- 7:07
so let me tell you what i said this i said i'm sick of will smith
- 7:13
oh you've said that since we've been here it's been consistent for me
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since before eliot did that interview and it's twofold it's nuanced right
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but it correlates follow me what i was saying was will smith hollywood mega star
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has now introduced himself into content world
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he does that with his big production
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with tools that all of us are not privy to with some of that effect [ __ ] he was
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doing it was he was putting the hollywood [ __ ] in the clips he was he started jumping from over here jumping
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from over here and mine was on the building and joe's issue with that was the same as the only fans workers when
- 8:02
shorty came on there charged all that [ __ ] [ __ ] up the game and disappeared
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and now they can't charge what they want to charge they used to charge whatever they want now it's 100 max some of y'all
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understand what i'm saying that was my issue there right like damn
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how many of you big budget hollywood [ __ ] the same thing the comedians were saying about ti
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well some of them were saying he shouldn't be doing but y'all just [ __ ] up the market
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right so then i was saying well wait a second
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he sure is dropping a lot of content
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y'all think that's normal and [ __ ] said nah he got a film company
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he got a i said
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so y'all don't think nothing is underneath him just
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jumping off the buildings and bridges
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said no and i said
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something's funny something's off there and that's my other beef with him
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hopping in the content world because now if you're going to come over here as will smith i want to see you be
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humanized and you are not coming over here i thought i was going
- 9:30
to be benjamin button told you that i was out of here and you not going to come over here jumping off the [ __ ]
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williamsburg bridge and act like everything is just so picture perfect hollywood glitzy glammy nah i know fresh
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prince and i'm a man i'm a man
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you know what i'm a human and our greatest gift
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that we totally don't use at all or take advantage of or even act like we have is
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you guessed it empathy it's one of our greatest strengths as a
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human you know that what it means i do you know that word means to vicariously
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identify with someone else's experience
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we don't use that [ __ ] at all no i do and if you use that and then just start
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looking around at [ __ ] that ain't look right
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watch your kids grow up we have watched you we know you and we see the internet
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jokes and some jokes have truth
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i've been on the the butt of a the butt of a lot of them on the internet should be funny
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you ever had some funny [ __ ] on the internet real life affect your household though [Music]
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it'd be real and some of that [ __ ] if you empathize
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he can't just be wanting to jump from buildings and bridges no way i ain't buying it
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i ain't buying it it's just some [ __ ] i'm not buying and now here we are
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well wait if you saw him on the red table [ __ ] if you're a man and you watch that whole
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thing we don't have to get into it but if you're a man and you watched all that that went on
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and you empathize boy you could understand some [ __ ] right it just make you look at it
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differently am i off come on talk to me no no no you you're right you're right you're 100 right right so i mean i don't
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want to make it seem like i'm some [ __ ] i'm some [ __ ] psychic superhero i am
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not but if you just sympathize with what some of these celebrities go through and i have the big and little joke i have
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joker joker deuce because i've i know some of these people and i've been in some of these spaces and i like and you've experienced it
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personally yeah and that like it's a cheat code when i say it so it's easy to disregard me horrible messenger
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excellent message look what god did to y'all that's [ __ ] up how you did that
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um but was i it was a good point talk about empathy just empathy man we
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don't have to doubt get get too deep into it now where do we want to begin here now my only thing though real quick
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what you said about will you said you want to see him humanized
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the same thing his content hey the same thing and we heard that from him we heard that from him as he told the jay-z
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story about hove seeing him smack dude on the red carpet i think he told that it might have been elliot
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he told it to somebody where he said hole called me and said yo me and b almost thought about missing the we at
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the oscars or some [ __ ] to go to tomorrow we thought about missing it just to stay home and watch you smack do it was so great to see you humanized
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that way like this is not a this is not a this thought has been out there about will smith but what i'm saying is
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even though people might want to see that he don't owe that to nobody well who said that i'm just some people
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really want to keep that part of them to themselves but when you jump in the content game and you're gonna be a
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podcaster or what it's not really relatable to the masses to have you jumping off the
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highest building in dubai or to only show you doing miraculous [ __ ] and ice let me point out
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the line that exists between the between the customer
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that don't know where the ghost is popping out in the haunted house at the carnival
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and the customer that does right
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most of these people's favorite celebrities they know absolutely nothing about
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by design they don't even know that or they might know it who knows different
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a lot of the fans yeah oh a lot of the fans have no ideas that no idea that
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they know absolutely nothing about their favorite celebrity they only know
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whatever had they came up with in the science room to let you know yeah i agree with that but i think but some
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people don't celebrity ism but some people don't so when you say you don't owe it well
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yeah you don't owe it you're black excellent you're the smiths you are will smith you don't owe nobody
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[ __ ] you him already but don't think that i'm the naive
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consumer to not know that something is being perfectly packaged to me
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and for me it's always introspection means dig deep
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let's look below that this is not the perfect i don't want to dig too deep into how
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you just could tell it's not the most perfect thing but there was mad [ __ ] to let you know
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dysfunction is around uh-huh so then don't perfect pitch me to death
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your wife has a so a show centered around therapy yet there's dysfunction around
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you clearly need therapy probably already has
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not enough not enough he ain't had enough
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he has had nowhere near enough and if you're looking at just if you've been watching him [ __ ] when you had the time
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to get the therapy that you need that was one of the things i took notice at the event after the whole
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kerfuffle now the reports come out that the publicist is at the table
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oh well somebody didn't do their [ __ ] job if this is real
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and we'll get to that in a second but if this is real
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and now the internet know that hey it might have been smoke from 2016.
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yeah you know whose job it was to be aware of that in the moment somebody on your team the
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[ __ ] publicist that now is rushed to the table in the moment of crisis
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to do their job a lot of people getting paid to not do their job
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but in defense of the publicist when people putting on the facade like it's all gravy
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you kind of don't think that there's no smoke there you get what i'm saying so if you if you like to use an error
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somewhere yeah to your point somewhere it is if you saying that yo i'm straight i'm straight i'm straight i'm straight i'm straight i'm perfect i'm happy i'm
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fine the publicist like all right good we good here so now i'm watching this [ __ ] and i and
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now i'm sitting in bed jealous as hell oh my god you ever just reek of envy and
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jealousy and feel it i am in bed
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so envious my whole life flashed before my eyes i'm thinking yo
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if i had [ __ ] denzel washington to pop up in all my worst moments in life
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i'd be [ __ ] batman oh there's nothing i could do
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i was watching the oscars me and the wife i'm on twitter as you normally do when you're watching the award show
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and she's like what the [ __ ] was that like what she's like will smith just punch chris rock in the face
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and then they do all the scramble screen it's cut off the mics is cut off don't see him walking away that's why you got
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to love 2022. he even listened to the sentence yo scramble screaming will smith just
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smash [ __ ] and it's such a wild thing but yeah then they think you know
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and in the scramble screen they kind of replayed it for a second and then switch back like there's a pretty bad edit scramble at the moment which i
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understand and then of course i went to twitter and you know they had to recap there immediately
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i honestly had no idea what the [ __ ] to think see i wasn't even watching it i just saw my phone blow up you just thought i got
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smacked the way my [ __ ] went on fire like yo i'm like the [ __ ] are y'all talking about mine too i'm just sitting there trying
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to have face time sex not everybody's trying to call my god damn no somebody sent me like a
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japanese uncut version that would have been pretty quick
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and then when i thought it was fake at first until he started with the curse words and i was like yeah maybe but i
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mean i don't know i don't think it was fake i don't think it was fake i think will's fed the [ __ ] up
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and he said not you not here not tonight i'ma do something i'm back and forth
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part of me because i think everything is fake i think it's all smoking mirrors so i mean it's hollywood it is hollywood
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and these are two gentlemen that are [ __ ] masters of the art of
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film and production and all that [ __ ] so i get it again and i just i'm just looking at
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the approach like chris rock standing hands behind his back looks like he leaned in it's almost like he knew what
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was coming the more i watch it i just like i feel like he's like he thought he was gonna say something like everybody thought
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that tom was going to whisper in his ears yeah and i've smacked people before i've i've
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actually been will before i've been in this situation where someone who i'm cool with or kind of cool with says some [ __ ] that someone i do you know that i
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didn't like and they thought it was all good when i walked up on them so i don't i don't think that part just
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proves anything y'all just the smackers on i'm just saying i mean i've smacked before and i've never smacked my hand
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like that like it was always oh like spread fingers why didn't you invent drill
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so i had no switches yeah i had a switch yeah oh it came a little late that's the worst smack i've ever seen in my life
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i don't think it was meant to be a i'm trying to kill you smack it was just a you're not about to say this here now
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today no not you not here not today
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i think it's ice thinks it's a rollout i think everything's a roll out first
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off and most things are a rollout i want this to be real ice got to give
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me more motive so hard i need i need a hard one to go to nemo yeah in court
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motive for that versus especially when you put it versus maybe you should have just fed the [ __ ] up
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like well no because i ice introduces a lot of things that in court i'm gonna call circumstantial uh
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the leaning you know in the slo-mo everybody can see chris rock leans in uh-huh he braced this he braced
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tight in his jaw look like i don't think that's because it was produced
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i think that's because chris rock is from new york new jersey
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and you know or i have a good idea when somebody's taking that long of a walk actually
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where is my [ __ ] jill scott uh taking that long of a walk and you
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can see so i'm sure he could see something in will's face also that's chris rock yo so you don't think wait
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wait hold up hold up hold up and i'm gonna give throw right back that's chris rock chris rock
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uh they call on him to get up there and do this like he got all the relationships
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uh his movies go he writes them he produces them he's up
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it's not like he needs this for his brand he's like he's his cachet is far beyond
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this also i want to say the same thing exists for will packer will packer
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is not out here giving you murder mystery ganging gang violence
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wool packer is giving you [ __ ] black excellence he wouldn't write this
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in this in this seat all right one thing i don't think i think the only two people that knew this was gonna happen
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if it was fake were them two they wouldn't do it to willpacker that's what i'm saying they wouldn't do
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that to him nor do i think they would do that for themselves even if you want to make the argument for will that exists
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and your argument about chris rock not selling tickets i don't care about that part him not selling tickets is this is
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hollywood this is the oscars this is their big stage their private club the
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black people in here are the black people we let in we familiar with them
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samuel l jackson got his first oscar round of applause questions
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right now can sammy l after nine million movies get a moment without y'all rushing to attack me
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samuel l jackson well deserved like this was too big of a
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moment for too many important black figures and i think the black people there knew that
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uh will's first oscar right yes quest love [ __ ] uh [ __ ] the dixon uh
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kenny hamilton nomination like black people were being highlighted
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tonight at a place where they're not normally highlighted not even welcome and if you want to tell me that's
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because the oscars is pandering to a black audience well so yeah
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yeah like most of them do and it's still congrats to me no it's a
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big congrats it's a huge congrats i do not think that will smith or anyone else took it
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upon themselves in that moment to make that moment about that
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and it's a good thing and that's further cemented by that stupid
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[ __ ] he got up there and said during the speech and boy we gotta stop that yo
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i'm sick of it from some of you [ __ ] damn i wanted to be benjamin button today i'm sick of these [ __ ] yo
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y'all just misappropriate [ __ ] he'd get up there and say oh king richard would have defended his family
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that's funny king richard came out two days later and said no i wouldn't have done that
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violence is only cool when it's in self-defense i don't know what the [ __ ] he had on his mind king richard got a phone
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you get on the stage at that stage in that moment
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apologize to everybody but chris rock and then and then show your [ __ ] ass
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by saying like king richard i'm just defending my
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family and those are the two things that you [ __ ] out there i hate you hip hop [ __ ]
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defending my family and y'all taking food out my kids mouth i hate that y'all got them two lines cause y'all just use
- 24:31
them shits with anything yo you all use dumpster hell you taking food out my kids yo some of that [ __ ]
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it's not applicable yo it's more than them it's a bunch of you [ __ ] just say [ __ ] to make something sound real serious for what you about to do to
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disguise that you stupid not talking about will smith
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but i don't think he's himself in the moment no no he's sure because if he's himself in the moment will smith 100
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apologize to chris rock right there yeah think he don't wait a day later and get with his people i even liked chris
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rock's apology that wasn't real it wasn't real i don't oh it wasn't real no that's not him i
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like the fake apology i like the fake apology i like chris rock not pressing charges cause rock no
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he can't press charges smith that's why i disagree that 100 hey ice
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say what you want i say what you want guess who's going [Laughter]
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all right say what you want you're lying all right i'm lying little
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issue no hold up i know you're not nice listen stop it if i'm your publicist
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if i'm your friend conf
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i'm up 150 mil whatever it is yeah i just said i'm good anyway you cannot first measure your comedian you
- 25:54
assaulted me in public and i couldn't even hit you back what are you vladimir kerry no you couldn't hit him
- 25:59
carrick karen you could have hit him back oh see that's the other thing that maybe i couldn't know he could hit him back why why couldn't he he couldn't hit
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him back you're out you're [ __ ] [ __ ] if you can press charges i could whip your ass on that stage you couldn't hit him back you watch your mind or you
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could have said more jokes he could have done a lot of things i thought that's what he was saying when he said i could go i thought he couldn't say i could go
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he could y'all cause he wouldn't he could have went chris rock is not hitting will smith back on the oscar stage yeah he's not he couldn't do that
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even if you could do that you all know chris rock he's not going to do that
- 26:28
i'm super glad he did not do that he handled it with class no question he did
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but um
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somebody would have some sneakers for me we would have been in somebody's backyard that night puff said we going to the gold party yeah they'd had to
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give me a backyard little boogie well that's why i'm oh it's so much done pacquiao it's a lot
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just fast forward if you over to smack but i got [ __ ] to say that's why i'm on the fence about how to
- 26:59
feel toward will because a part of me says yo that was the hardest [ __ ] in the world yo
- 27:06
for will smith to know where he was at and do that to the dude on stage holding
- 27:13
the microphone that's also the part that i think is wrong
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because you're will smith i'm with you i think it was wrong but i actually feel you're will smith you could if that was
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the issue you could have went right backstage you could have walked off exited stage when he exited first
- 27:29
commercial and you could have smacked the [ __ ] out of him anywhere backstage and then all we would have heard is rumors and reports
- 27:35
your reps still don't take a hit no your rep is the same y'all deal with it internally you still go out there and
- 27:40
receive the applause you're supposed to when you win that award he didn't have to do that and that's why i didn't believe it in front of his
- 27:46
peers these are these are his peers i'm not making this a racy thing a lot
- 27:52
of white people had something to say mine y'all [ __ ] business but his peers the acting elite
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he'd been in hollywood for example come he don't want it and then denzel
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at your highest moment the devil will a [ __ ] if denzel could pop up in my worst moments you think i would be like this
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like i hated that i'm hating on him you ignore him i am i love denzel you know he's like the voice he's like yes
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he's got more quotables than jay-z like that [ __ ] will smith act up denzel tyler perry sammy l pop up like
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yeah like big brother you're honking them so important you know it's dope
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i think you might have been saucy a little bit oh you know hov text them no oh i'm sure he had a sip
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i'm just saying cause that that could add to it absolutely i hope somebody checked on [ __ ] chris rock that's all i
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heard was everybody kept calling will smith and my thing is now she all i mean called chris brown charlemagne said he called him yeah
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i mean that's good i i think that more people should have checked on chris wrong
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somebody else call me somebody better call oprah oprah where the [ __ ] is over okay let me help god five seconds
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where's the committee chappelle somebody somebody over there
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[Music]
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and then you go through a moment and it hit the web the famous [ __ ] feel like they could call [ __ ] if you don't get
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off my phone james earl jones better text me in three
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seconds joe to balance this [ __ ] out all right listen no that's right listen
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let's [ __ ] up this is why i'm mad at them i'm gonna find something to be mad at
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because i'm imaginative no i'm i'm on the fence let me get this out i'm back and forth
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oh man i am i'm i have a very creative imagination
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so when the universe gift you something you never thought would come right like the yukon woman's coach gino gino
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been in the final four seven zillion times 15 years no you got to make up new
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speeches whatever he said last night i was like oh [ __ ] she had writers for that one she wanted us right but like
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the universe give you [ __ ] that you got to be an awe at like that's amazing on whatever night this was that will
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smith smacked the [ __ ] out of chris rock headline was so great i had no choice but to imagine it 90 other different
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ways what if he weaved it yeah but you've already committed to the act
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now you got to chase him or you got to put your hands up what if he win catch him in the left what if he
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reacts you have to run will smith attacks
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will smith is running around on stage trying to smack chris rock yo what if he what if he dipped it and
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yeah oh [ __ ] chris rock dc mcfly
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in front of your girl and your peers yo this could have been better if he would and and that's why i know
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will back at him right there oh joe will backer would have wrote something for us if that [ __ ] would have slipped that smack and boo bop oh that would have
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been a [ __ ] yo it it's been over he had to go on high yeah it'd have been over he'd had it going higher considering
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yeah he would have gone hiding all i'm saying is man the smack smack at the awards
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ain't gonna impress me anyway nah i just young buck stabbed me [ __ ] man
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oh man did you hear this ignorant ass [ __ ] i'm just saying like it's like what happened i said uh smack at the
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awards young buck stab the [ __ ] got dropped from the label [ __ ] shut up you [ __ ] with your false [ __ ] loyalties
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you [ __ ] be loyal to nothing yo to absolutely nothing you stab me i'm signed here forever i mean i stabbed
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somebody i have somebody for you yeah i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry yeah no no like perpetuity
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perpetuity sorry so now you [ __ ] idiots y'all got me on the internet saving all the little
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stupid songs i don't care i don't care i know you was having a blast on the internet
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now this is a story all about how i slap chris rock and sat back down
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wrong i heard i don't care i'll tell you why you don't make jokes about why he's not having him no no no
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here we go now this is a story all about how the oscars got turned upside down we
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were sitting in the sea cracking up in this chair chris rock made a joke about jada's hair i love you g.i james can't
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wait to see you we'll let this one rock for you guys and we'll get back to uh back to business hey content creators
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yes west philadelphia signing rage will said bet and walk straight to the stage
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maxine relaxing walking all cold and gave us a glimpse of olly too gave him a cross stack a pass for a hook
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and he looking good he threw one good slap and the crowd got scared the peter looking at will like this [ __ ] here all
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right let's get out of here all right guys enough of him oh the internet the internet is great undefeated you got
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a lot of internet man and i like that will partied it up afterwards what
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you see with lupita right see you not smacking me fish okay
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he was looking at that [ __ ] hey
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she looking at him like daddy what look how lou peter looking at noah [Music]
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yo i'm telling you lupita was looking at that [ __ ] like that's what we doing zaddy yeah
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you say what you want go ahead we said nothing okay we're letting you rock out look and she
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had the after party right bud he's still going
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and that's the real conversation y'all want to help out she got that [ __ ]
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mind control you know and [ __ ] so happy to be outside
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looking well man i'ma get smacked yeah you are
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oh he ain't even doing summer time he's doing getting jiggy with it he's trying to have a blast he's trying to have too
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much fun turn up come on let's read his apology at least y'all don't think he's under mind
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control yes he's under stress no question he's
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do you think his mind control is i don't think the mind control nah
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jay-z got this song so when so when did he get that mad if it's not
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mind control [ __ ] was laughing it up until she he saw that she was mad
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i can't laugh the world gotta do something that [ __ ] husband that [ __ ] immediately no we're not paying enough attention to that every mean if if you
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utilize empathy then you have to press pause right there
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you're right the joke was funny oh [ __ ] it's not funny but stop
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or maybe we can y'all know what time it is when
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something happened and you can you can overlook it yeah i want to really have a real conversation we can't that's how we're
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good not too real no i'm just saying i think that i think this is my
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look they told me i can't say this is my personal opinion no more it's your platform but i gotta say this is my person yeah you say a lot
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so take it off of you but but um i don't even think this smack was a
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chris rock smack i think it was damn near societal smack it was what
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and been in social media for the last two two years in a negative way
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outside of his book in that movie it's been all negative jokey joke on me so when the joke came
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out he laughed i look at my wife she's not laughing and
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all that flashed in front of my face is the last two years of ridicule jokes and all that other [ __ ] memes here here we
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come and that's all i think he really envisioned was there's some more [ __ ] he snapped like and it popped boy boy boy
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did he envision it quickly then cause it's the part that i want to highlight absolutely if you've been living with it
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for and and and to further point out how delusional he
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is who's he will smith okay after the smack he got the nerve to be smirking
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no [ __ ] he did more than that i know but i mean fix this suit as if he ain't have a care in the world
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something is wrong something is off there from for the will smith that's our will
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smith that we know yeah it was like a time bomb don't
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you know what i'm saying like it literally was like that like and this is clearly and you can't tell me that this is about that gi joe you
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can't i'm not rolling i'm not rolling again i don't care who wrote the joke i don't know if the writers wrote it if it was ad-libbed it
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don't matter to me if i'm taking this it's real cause like i said i'll go back and forth you think it's fake and i i also i go back and forth
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i don't think it's the g.i james joke i think it's all the [ __ ] from 2016.
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the the chris rock them comments i think [ __ ] might not [ __ ] with chris rock to an extent
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that's what i'm wearing hold on hold on joe hold on you know how it's like yo if let's say somebody parks you make a
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joke at my expense yeah joe laugh all right ish laugh i'm like
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ho ho homeboy you can't love not you yeah yeah yeah no not you it could it look like it could
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be some of that like i don't [ __ ] with this [ __ ] right here i don't like that yo but it happens bro
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you're right this is my thing the oscars the grammys the emmys the [ __ ] espys the golden globes
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all of them they hire a top-notch comedian on purpose often times to
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master the ceremony if you are the best of the best you are gonna get roasted it is par for
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the course when [ __ ] host the espys they crack on peyton manning they crack on lebron they crack on kd they crack on
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everybody [ __ ] [ __ ] roast donald trump barack obama whoever is the president at the presidential roast
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it's par for the course so when you're a mega star you're sitting in the front row that is what tends to happen
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from a comedian we are setting a precedent here basically going forward that no
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comedians could ever crack a joke on an a-list celebrity without the risk of potentially getting smacked no that's i
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don't think we said that but hold on no no no no no i'm with that no no no no yeah you joking i'm dead ass
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yeah like dog you are setting the precedent because but i like it look i don't i lie oh please you can't like it
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when you do what you do every day for a living you can't like it joe because now you're being contradictory i'm not because we simp we sit here on a
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day-to-day basis we don't nothing i come in here and speak as if i might
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see any of the people i speak about i agree yeah but they can still take it
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no and then i would have to deal with that indeed absolutely i don't come in here
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and do that and it's a lot of comedians i don't give a [ __ ] that your career choice was to
- 40:26
make people laugh some of that [ __ ] be off base i agree with that some of it is
- 40:32
wrong i agree and then you all come claiming to the internet saying oh i'm a comedian i can't do my job no some [ __ ]
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you cannot say i agree with that as well and we come in here all the time uh or at least me for years and said
- 40:44
sometimes we need to get back to smacking the [ __ ] out of some people i haven't been to comedy shows no i've
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said that months ago [ __ ] and a [ __ ] on stage thought it was cool
- 40:54
to make a joke about how dark-skinned my lady friend was no [ __ ] i'm waiting outside for you
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that don't fall under the guys up i'm a comedian so that's why that [ __ ] that you're saying you write but i think it's
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conditioning right so if i'm will and i know what this has done in my home
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i know i'm watching her cry i'm holding her i know how this affects her differently
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than our entanglement jokes like this is a health this is this connected us
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[Music] no i'm not and you do that it should be that's that's your right yeah certain
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should be and not only that that's not his the joke was over time hey that was that was funny homeboy and his wife that
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see that was comedic genius dave would have did that homeboy and his wife both being nominated in the same category
- 41:41
that's chris rock comedy segway even the segway to will
- 41:47
oh he getting he he better hope will wins that was genius now you're just taking a jab joe
- 41:52
wouldn't have took it joe wouldn't talk let me ask your question if the joke was completed go ahead let me ask you a question and i'm
- 41:58
not defending them this is just all allegedly he didn't know nothing about
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her alopecia i don't care if he don't i don't care let me finish show
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2016 negates your point i know where you're going no it does not oh go ahead it's two totally separate issues and
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this is the part there's the problem to me what i'm saying is this we can't come in here and we complain about cancer culture and we complain about how
- 42:22
sensitive people are in the pot we do that often here and then say there's a line in which a
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comedian can't cross because this is traditionally what comedians have done maybe you could cross it parks you can't
- 42:35
be prepared for what happens when you cross i have to be prepared for this i'm not disagreeing i want to reply to him i know i agree with that i'm
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standing on that i agree with you what i'm saying is it sets a precedent going forward that now we can't really be
- 42:47
funny no all right i disagree with that part the funniest jokes are the jokes that teeter
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uh uh the line of of of inappropriate from the comedians that's good and the amount of comedians that's good is
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probably the same as the amount of rappers that's good he wants to leave an entire field i know which is why this was shocking
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kev williams came with his podcast but you know if you can't make jokes without offending people then they're not communicating
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but let me and that's from the community and he said it amazingly too yeah but but i want to reply to you ish
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if you we are boycotting this event in 2016 black elite
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we're being murdered by the dozens in the street and i ain't gonna serious this out but you just have to highlight
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why this event was being boycotted that they tapped chris rock in that moment to
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speak to black audience and he clowned my wife
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that's important to note it is you know the two people that should know that
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will and chris that's what i'm saying about 2016 should
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dead some of that because even if you write and chris rock is genius so he could have thought and joked his way out
- 43:59
of that without this but you know 2016 happened and now you know that we're sitting in front of your face
- 44:06
so it's like to hide behind the guise of being a comedian no [ __ ] you a man first true and you have the gall i don't
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know who you think i am but we here now we're not boycotting we
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we fixed it and you still got jokes yo g.i jane wasn't even that popular of a [ __ ]
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movie for your genius ass to make that joke in that moment it wasn't it wasn't no smash one no blah blah blah [ __ ]
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black panther stop and it was stop 30 years ago stop it yo stop stop stop
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no i understand that part no [ __ ] as a man you can't do that right now and like i said it could be some like yo i still
- 44:44
i'm still feeling 2016. and what if we spoke i agree with you we know each other what if we don't what if i said something to you
- 44:51
and you still chose to make me the butt of the joke in front of my peers allegedly somebody no [ __ ]
- 44:56
[ __ ] out this [ __ ] man and chris rock let me say this and i love him both
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he deserves a smack he deserves a smack he should have been got a smack
- 45:08
chris rock should have been got smack it's a few [ __ ] should have been that smack well see that's that's what i'm learning that little clip running around
- 45:14
where he just thought it was all hokey dory [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] with louis ck and it took seinfeld in the moment to say
- 45:21
nah that ain't cool no but seinfeld is sign see and that's what i mean about genius comedy seinfeld
- 45:27
seinfeld so he didn't just say that he said he worded it differently i don't find the humor in that
- 45:33
nor do i seek it to both of them really to louis ck
- 45:39
but why seinfeld got to be that person in front of chris rock so of course no one deserves a smack
- 45:46
but yeah that was nuts i know there's a comedian class there's
- 45:52
a language y'all speak there's a i understand but that was nasty from chris rock
- 45:57
also they highlighted chris rock is the [ __ ] that made the film about black hair and now he on stage with a black
- 46:03
hair joe uh black woman's hair like some of that [ __ ] i ain't get that one like i
- 46:10
okay cause he made the film stop it ice that's what i mean about ignorance stop it you made that's not
- 46:16
being ignorant if you made the film then you're highlighting that you are aware
- 46:21
of all the roots and things that come along with the texture and black hair and culturally black hair
- 46:29
you would think that the person that made the movie so you know this is also the irony of you being the person to make the joke
- 46:37
about a black woman's hair there's something there i stop that don't do that listen to this though let me act okay i'm this this is if and i'm not
- 46:44
defending chris rock i'm not defending chris rock what i'm saying is we are all
- 46:50
under the assumption that new he knew that she was suffering from i'm not saying i don't mean nothing let me
- 46:55
finish please that she's under some duress about her alopecia
- 47:01
jada pinkett has been wearing short hair since she was introduced to the mainstream she changes hairstyles often
- 47:08
she changes hairstyles frequently he made a joke about it so if
- 47:14
because again i heard that there there's some leaked footage i got it about will smith saying yo i spoke to him before i
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spoke to him before yeah they said that i don't know how authentic it is but i spoke to him
- 47:26
before so if you spoke to me before and i told you stop playing with me yeah yeah you do you could get a smack right
- 47:32
i think he should have smacked them in the dressing room i think he should have smacked him when the [ __ ] was over i think you should have handled it a
- 47:38
little differently but but it's what i'm saying to you is why do it matter that to me why do i matter if he did or
- 47:44
didn't know about her health like let me finish let me finish let me finish if you're talking about a [ __ ] wife
- 47:49
the end that's not true joe it's not true because we talk about people's wives on
- 47:55
this show who never just give me one tell me i don't honestly i'm not trying to be funny tell
- 48:01
me it's disrespectful because i think i make it a point to not do that i don't even think he talked about her to do it
- 48:06
picking me up right now somebody could if he took it no no stop do you think 2016 was disrespectful
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i would say yeah absolutely so this is not strike one this is not what your name is
- 48:18
you with my wife's name in your mouth like she butted a joke and i'm sitting with her come on y'all no i'm with you i
- 48:25
don't care if he knew whether she was sick or not you keep why do you keep playing with my wife
- 48:31
let me ask you a question let me ask you i'm not disagreeing with that i'm just saying i think
- 48:40
i think people be looking for [ __ ] in the in the social media
- 48:45
climate forum etc people just always looking for some [ __ ] to talk about they're just always
- 48:52
exaggerating certain [ __ ] and i just think that don't get me wrong let me finish if he felt if will smith
- 48:59
felt as though he crossed the line then that's his right to feel that way and he handled it accordingly however he
- 49:04
thought that the situation should be dealt with he has that right as a man that's another one that has to go away
- 49:10
yo social media be blowing [ __ ] up they do they do but sometimes
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they don't sometimes they didn't blow this up yo these are two
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black magus three black megastars i'm not chris rock this has nothing to
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do with chris rock to me so i'm not starting i don't know gotcha these are two jada and will
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black mega stars for [ __ ] whole lives longer than my son's been alive
- 49:41
we've watched them in mad movies shows you know you kind of feel this attachment like you grew up
- 49:48
with people through rumors and speculation and other things we learned about their different
- 49:54
ideologies at one point scientology was involved their kids grew up became vocal with
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adverse views and opinions right then you add throw in an r b [ __ ] that
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during a press run did some dumb [ __ ] [ __ ]
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wrote a song about it did an interview spread all the business throw in a new therapy show that's a
- 50:21
smash at facebook the show is a smash that show you gotta talk about why it's a smash
- 50:28
that's very very important here well it's a smash because it's three different generations of women sitting
- 50:33
there really getting to the meat and potatoes of real [ __ ] with people that are going through real [ __ ] right why am
- 50:38
i missing something it's a part of it it's a part of it another part of it that is is really
- 50:46
really vital in this um is the fact that when you're a mega
- 50:52
star right so if you're jay-z and beyonce if you are
- 50:57
um rihanna and asap people feel an attachment to celebrities
- 51:05
and when you start to now because it's a mysticism there with celebrities that's
- 51:10
why michael jackson and prince were as big as they are that's why jay-z and beyonce are as big as they are because
- 51:16
they keep the mysticism they don't let everybody in their house they don't let everybody in their
- 51:22
bedroom they don't let everybody in their space and so now you get this the fandom
- 51:28
when you start to now allow people into your personal business now you allow the criticism
- 51:35
that's the knock that everybody has on kim and kanye right is that they search for the public spotlight so much that
- 51:42
they put their their their life in in the public fighter i mean in the public hands and now you open the door to
- 51:48
public fighter it was the same knock on these two there you go so joe saying that the show was a smash and a part of that smash was
- 51:56
she allowed the world into their bedroom she allowed the world into their house
- 52:02
she allowed the world into their private life and so when you do that now
- 52:07
some of that [ __ ] was at the expense of your husband's sanity in his well-being and we just saw it
- 52:14
manifest itself on national television at one of the biggest nights of his life
- 52:19
that wasn't a chris rock smack my [ __ ] that was a societal sentence to all of us exactly that was to everybody i know
- 52:26
and she played a part in that i like that she's about to say she's into everybody that that smack was she played a part in that a lot of that smack was
- 52:33
as a result whether directly or indirectly to things that she has pushed in the public spotlight the things that
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you're saying is what i just call mind control i don't want to use this moment
- 52:45
to highlight she may have paid played a part in what he decided to get up and do
- 52:50
as a black man yo see and that part is reversed too though but wait that part
- 52:56
go ahead i'm listening to god let me just say this point you can go that part is reversed too though like
- 53:02
the whole i'm protecting my family thing i i want i'm talking solely about me
- 53:08
i want for my wife one day to stop me from smacking the [ __ ] out of somebody
- 53:14
one that's what i want know what i also want or i want her to give me a better route true show me a better way to do
- 53:21
this help me know what i was know what i would also want my wife to do i would also want my wife when she sees
- 53:28
that something is affecting me because if the [ __ ] world sees that it affected him we all saw it i'm not doing
- 53:34
that we all didn't see it perfect picture painting ass he's not like he just was so forthcoming that's no you're
- 53:40
right no no whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa the savvy sword let me finish no no no the not even the savvy sword i saw that [ __ ]
- 53:47
sit on that red table with his eyes as red as the [ __ ] table you're savvy anybody anybody saw that joe anybody
- 53:53
with everybody everybody don't know why sitting on eyes that's happening yes people saw that
- 53:59
everybody is not buying it everybody everybody's not concluding the same thing every every adult
- 54:07
hear me out every single adult and every single man on this planet is going to assess that
- 54:15
situation and say that is a very hard conversation for that man to be having and if you don't say that you're blind
- 54:21
now you're saying the same thing i'm saying that i know no but no i disagree well you just said if you don't see it
- 54:27
you're blind that's a different variation of what i'm saying so this is grown-up conversation ever but it's but
- 54:33
it's ain't growing up watching so listen so what i'm saying is this
- 54:39
we have to protect our fam wait we got to protect our families wait on this topic because that's what he talked
- 54:44
about on his speech we got to protect our families we have to do things appropriate to be the
- 54:50
protector cool but when you are giving the world [ __ ] to put a target on your back yeah
- 54:57
you're giving him the ammo to shoot me with you got to kind of do better on that you got to do better in that see i want the family to i want the family to
- 55:04
let me know that that's not the way to protect and that's what uh uh king richard went on to say like
- 55:10
that's just not how you that's not how because i'm so great like will smith is crazy i don't want people to misconstrue
- 55:17
what i'm saying no he is really him yeah and when you don't have this
- 55:23
internal darkness and you can step in your true light you know the power that you wield true
- 55:31
and you don't exhibit that over g.i jane
- 55:36
in this moment and along with great power hey not only do you know it finish
- 55:42
the quote yo your wife knows it your kids know it go ahead along with
- 55:47
great power comes what favorite response great responsibility all right then so with that being said it's his
- 55:52
responsibility to not do that right that being said 30 this he's not
- 55:58
he's bro we denzel
- 56:04
it might stop right there they sent his ass to bel air he didn't learn no
- 56:09
this is exactly what they sent his ass away for they sent
- 56:19
only one black actor on the planet that we hold in higher regard than him
- 56:25
and that is that came over and put his arms around him and gave him another [ __ ] genius quote so what i'm saying
- 56:32
is you don't hold samuel jackson in the higher regards not the hiding wheel what
- 56:37
the [ __ ] you do no you don't i don't know what you told him you don't yeah i don't don't but okay it's cool um not a
- 56:43
slight to him either it's not it's like sam not at all just disagrees he's he's in the combo he's in the conversation what i'm saying is danielle's and king
- 56:49
of new york so i mean so that's in the 70s what are we talking about king in new york is not the 70s what does it mean i don't feel
- 56:55
like new york or 79 stop it christopher walken yes
- 57:00
79 i know because first of all it's larry fishburne but i don't want to fight you you're good bro sammy l is in
- 57:06
king of new york what are you talking about that's home i'm just saying that's who
- 57:13
we're not having this conversation joe what i'm saying is this pull it up
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if i'm wrong i'll tell you no you won't you're gonna say they still swear you're gonna say i am the beast
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when you start to now blame the world he's not blaming the world but he's
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saying like yo you gotta protect this person you gotta protect that person you gotta protect that person dog your
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castle you gotta protect it but when the people inside your castle are potentially burning it down there
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has to be some accountability there and i had a way about a point till you cut me off you're
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always doing this [ __ ] so my [ __ ] ain't as smooth as it would be i want to wrap the convo with just
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letting will smith know that we love them true indeed their whole family
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their whole family to whatever whatever they're going through is correct that's what they're going through he wasn't king of the goal in
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it was 1990 i know it wasn't king new york was not out in 1990
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he's been in 150 minutes i'm right wrong yo i hate when you be right but you're
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wrong at the same time but anyway what would you yo yo stop cause y'all gonna trigger me on the girl dad [ __ ] again
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what i'm speaking to will smith indeed i am not speaking to everyone
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else no his whole family they are all going through this with him
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great but i'm speaking to will
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smith the head of house honcho of the the king of the castle him
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yes the family is going through [ __ ] yes jada yes the kids yes it's all together but i'm talking to the man that had the
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meltdown in front of the [ __ ] world while jada got to sit there and roll her
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eyes yes i'm talking to him the [ __ ] that on his night i won the
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award my [ __ ] amazing peers got to come running me running me and talking me off a ledge for smacking the [ __ ] out
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of somebody who is well known i had to decipher these things i'm talking to him
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the person that maybe need a little more love warmth
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therapy support understanding from us from us
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and i say that listen jada is there with her mother her daughter her network of people and
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they have her i don't look at her and see erratic i look at will smith and see the masking
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of pain i would have agreed a thousand percent and that's just something i've been highlighting for years upon years
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upon years with the entertainers that i love most y'all think it's hate it's not i said this to you about chris
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i said this about uh tori i said we should watch uh chance sean it's a few
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[ __ ] that when they start talking these records and you start getting a visual i'm not looking from a consumer
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standpoint i'm not looking as a fan i'm looking to empathize holy [ __ ] yo if that were me
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yeah you know you never even really see him with like i don't know who his friends are like
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when i say friends i mean like your real buddies that you hang out with i'm gonna jump in there and see that we have
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stories of who his friends are and there's stories that come with that that's true see i can't even imagine i i
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can't speak from the perspective of will smith who everywhere you turn
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there is some rumor or something there's a story yo so listen you're right
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so wouldn't that mean this is just my brain wouldn't that mean limit the
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accessibility like you can't stop something
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you're not supposed to stop being you you're not supposed to stop being you but ish for your own personal
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ish and that's why and that's why my interpretation i'm only talking about me i ain't talking about nobody else that's
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why my interpretation of him sitting down that red table with his eyes like that in his face like that is different
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because of what you just said what you just said sitting here real quick accessibility that the world has he's
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sitting there mad because with all of our strange ideologies and beliefs
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that are sacred to us some mishaps happen
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to now where our business is in the [ __ ] street and we got to address it i gotta sit here in support of some [ __ ]
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that i'm not in [ __ ] support of but i'm here for you
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i'm here i'm i'm a pillar i'm him hey i'm about to buy [ __ ] up no i don't wanna wrapping this up no i can't but
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i'm just saying that's my take i know on that that's why that's part of why i'm so angry i i agree yo wait you did that
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wait what with who we've seen [ __ ] flip out for less
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ain't gonna name them but boy they at the tip of my tongue we seen [ __ ] flip out for less
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oh i want to name them cause they're your favorite [ __ ] oh y'all love these [ __ ] they don't be
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a peep about it these [ __ ] flip out in front of their [ __ ] face so i'mma grant root will some grace
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he deserves but [ __ ] have flipped [ __ ] have flipped out he just wants a hell of a lot less than what will smith
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has gone through and been through in his [ __ ] personal private secret secret sector
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that shouldn't be for all of our public fighters well that's kind of what we've been sharing all along anyway like none
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of that business we shouldn't even know they keep putting the [ __ ] out when you break up with your chicken she
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go [ __ ] the whack [ __ ] imagine if the world know i'm not saying he went through that imagine if the world know now hey your
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chick [ __ ] him where wait home wait let's let's really have let's empathize
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i agree it could get crazy yo no so that's why i said you got to learn to
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write a song i don't want to hear from the [ __ ] talking about why he didn't do that to august august wasn't with the microphone in front of him at the oscars
- 1:03:45
yeah that's why and not for name hey we don't know he didn't do that to august we
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don't know that that's true wait i didn't go backstage and smack chris rock because clearly i don't feel like
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looking for [ __ ] but you right here you right here
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on site right y'all like that hey this is gift wrap right that's what
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you're right in front of me drop the addy drop the logo oh [ __ ] the op spin the block y'all preach it to me
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and now here it is our finest [ __ ] does it and now we think peace and the death
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suck my dick that was other [ __ ] that did piss me off
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well i'm starting to see all this yo he got on there and did that in front of all these white people he's supposed to
- 1:04:33
be holding up i only don't comment on that because i ain't making this racing i'm just gonna say white people your
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business i'm talking about us saying that about him i'm saying what about you can't you can't act like that in
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front of the white but that come from white people like nah i don't think so i know i don't think that come from white
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people i think i think that comes from us trying to impress white people i don't think that comes from trying to get a seat at that table we are we i
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think we have we y'all think we were born with that well do y'all think we learned that
- 1:05:02
i'm not getting racy but do you think we were born with that or do you think we learned where do you think we learned it from each other
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you think we learned it from each other you say yes i do what do you say and i'm not arguing with y'all i'm just
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receiving your own answer and i said i'm moving on i think it was learnt from being told and treated that we were less
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than so by who by them okay so knowing that made you want to be
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accepted by them that's the greatest [ __ ] about this oscar [ __ ] is now ain't saying it
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ahead no come on no oh no cause sometimes i say things and the
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people the white people that i love and the white people that love me might think i'm talking about them and i'm not
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okay so oh you can go there's no point parks you are not even top ten of the white
- 1:05:51
people i've been talking about like i got mad white people doug b just hit me the other day about uh when all this
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[ __ ] happened shout out to w but yeah no so i don't wanna it's not worth it it's not worth it but there is a take
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there is a take on that specifically but i'm skipping it not that important
- 1:06:09
come on where are we at so now his oscar's under review because you broke the code of
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condo oh god you broke the code of come get it code of conduct no come get this right
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here no no no no no no no no no no code of conduct no come here tell y'all explain to me about code of conduct see
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that's why i just used to say hey y'all my business y'all [ __ ] uh harvey weinstein
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keeps his uh keeps his oscar no let him come get it come get it
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please deserves an oscar certainly not for this movie
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boy yo he smacked somebody so i can't even really get into the take like he got an oscar for this yo
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hey i i was with that what i liked that movie remember i came here and said i love that movie i know
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yo and i'm not mad at him winning the oscar for it i know you're not he shouldn't
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this was a [ __ ] mess that's just your hate against girl dads i get it man
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i see what you did yo y'all trying to pay me as a girl dad hater yeah you are we paying you that though i'm not
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in the world but we painting you as that i had the biggest what brush that is young paying me that your [ __ ]
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just make [ __ ] up and y'all roll and i'm not like that so that's cool i don't judge y'all for that
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i don't judge y'all for that y'all go with whatever they're gonna make some up tomorrow and y'all gonna wave the flag for it y'all do that i don't
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carry on so you won't read his apology or what man violence in all of its forms is
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poisonous and destructive my behavior at last night's academy awards was unacceptable and inexcusable
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jokes at my expense are a part of the job but a joke about jada's medical condition was too much for me to bear
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and i reacted emotionally i would like to publicly apologize to you chris
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i was out of line and i was wrong i'm embarrassed by my uh i was in bad i am embarrassed and my actions were not
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indicative of the man i want to be there is no place for violence in a world of love
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and kindness i would also like to apologize to the academy the producers of the show all
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the attendees and everyone watching around the world i'd like to apologize to the williams family and my king
- 1:08:37
richard family i deeply regret that my behavior has stained what has been an otherwise gorgeous journey for all of us
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i am a work in progress sincerely will
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you said you didn't like this no no
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i said i liked his apology and i'd like the fake chris apology okay i like the apology
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i like i like making amends and i think i don't know but he's absolutely right
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what a stain on yeah just black greatness there was black
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greatness everywhere everywhere everywhere beyonce went to compton beyonce what the compton
- 1:09:21
i should have in yellow yeah right and uh tennis ball green lime green tennis green
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and that's why they'll be hit me because that is definitely an interpolation of a joe button record
- 1:09:36
and it's not even joe budden record but i guess dub b's beat yeah that's definitely that beat
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yeah real life and rap i think it was the second bonus record on my debut it's 1 000 that beat
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i'd play it but you don't have a music here so you're not gonna know how that's that but it's 100
- 1:10:03
i remember that song man the call see what's going on you're gonna say so
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like you did before like he did before
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before about some original song y'all [ __ ] make me to be so much nah you diss me
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oh that's different that's rapper's [ __ ] that's rappers this is business [ __ ] this is business stuff right here but
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anyway um will smith's mom speaks out yo and they got the [ __ ] nerve yo how
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could benjamin button exist today they got the nerve to leak a report
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that say and y'all don't have a girl dab me again yo cause black men needs so much love i don't wanna hear that [ __ ] don't say it to me i know that y'all
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girl dads oh y'all all three y'all but sorry they got the nerve to leak
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will smith allegedly the next special guest on the red table
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let me repeat it wait shut it up will smith
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alleged to be the next guest on red tabletop but he
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i g if i could throw these headphones further
- 1:11:20
so you mean this [ __ ] scheduled to appear at the source of his pain again this show has not done will
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well this show ain't been a [ __ ] this ain't ain't been hitchfield i ain't
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gonna hold you i ain't know that i'm putting i might lean back the other way now
- 1:11:41
now i'm leaning back i'm leaning more towards rollout again now i didn't know this the show is a smash i used to don't need
- 1:11:47
a rollout okay but this is the nature of the show they take all the moments so it's dope
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that you provide it but no facebook or somebody
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somebody with a brain what are you providing what are you providing you said it's dope that you provided what do you
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provide moment it's it's different when you the talent and the producer and the creator life
- 1:12:11
emotion and pain to the world for them to now internalize and make fun of and
- 1:12:17
judge as they see fit so now you can't get on television and start crying when
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[ __ ] judge you you are giving it to him this is no different than my my take when i keep
- 1:12:28
saying these are they're people keep going to social media they're cross advertising about these problems and then when everybody say something yeah
- 1:12:34
it's the same thing you are doing the same you're putting the information out we would not know if y'all don't put this out and you are 30 something years
- 1:12:40
in the [ __ ] entertainment industry and you know this [ __ ] is cruel [ __ ] i've been in the entertainment industry
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for a year and i've learned mad [ __ ] in a year they've been there for 30 years and will smith is a [ __ ] mega mega
- 1:12:53
mega star he's an a plus plus list celebrity five fingers
- 1:13:00
what stupid yo
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nah like dog you giving it to him i'm sorry personally once you start once
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you keep giving it to him yeah i can't be you you can't even my [ __ ] you can't play not a victim when you're a [ __ ]
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volunteer i hate that tape you're not a you can hate it we could agree to disagree yeah i hate
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some of yours yo what i'm saying is you which one [ __ ] my legs ain't long enough yo what
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i'm saying is this dog you can't be a victim when you're a volunteer
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wait a second can you stop doing what the [ __ ] does
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your legs length have to which ones and i'm saying this [ __ ] is
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longer than my leg [ __ ] your bum ass takes anyway yo what i'm saying finish going man this [ __ ] dodo yo
- 1:13:58
oh man
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it's crazy man not enough pineapple in the juice
- 1:14:17
oh please man that ignition won't even get started
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finish man i don't remember what i was saying he about he about to host the red table
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talk oh the end i don't know if it's true or not but i mean
- 1:14:38
whatever man i'm off of it will i love you we love you i just wish they can keep getting therapy get therapy i want
- 1:14:45
to know more they've been you got to get some therapy everybody about it i hope that's it no
- 1:14:50
it wasn't it wasn't he need more that's a little one little slap didn't look nice
- 1:14:56
is there anything else to even talk about i'm sorry that is so much commentary but
- 1:15:04
dawg this was the oscar yo wardrobe is back no smacking [ __ ] is bad too [ __ ]
- 1:15:10
award shows smack your [ __ ] restore the feeling wait are you [ __ ] me oh come on man
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now we just need a girl to start to smack a girl no we don't
- 1:15:24
oh yeah hey zeus getting sued they shooting this [ __ ] out of the juice
- 1:15:29
all right you can't do that [ __ ] today doing you can't do that are you kidding me i watched all that
- 1:15:36
[ __ ] that is a royal rumble
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wait it's so much of a royal rumble that look me and you want to know we fight
- 1:15:49
five minutes later i can't worry about me we cool now i can stand by you i'm fighting now hey two minutes later he's about to
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fight him and they're all just running around and security's there y'all getting sued
- 1:16:00
when somebody gets seriously hurt somebody gonna get people getting hurt ate them little twins they they signed
- 1:16:07
up for the reality show to claim on twitter signed up to the reality show little producers wrote some [ __ ] in they
- 1:16:12
say hey we're gonna throw all their clothes in the garbage and get rid of them or whatever guess what lawsuit
- 1:16:17
y'all got to pay dumb chicks came in here with some [ __ ] it's louis chanel it's pradas dior it's
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everything y'all can't write nothing to are you [ __ ] me i need millions
- 1:16:30
i need millions i'm up hey today is sue or get sued that's where we at
- 1:16:37
if you didn't know it's sue or get sued yes zeus y'all can't [ __ ] if it was
- 1:16:43
that easy you don't think i know 20 [ __ ] that could go get in the house and fight for 10 episodes
- 1:16:49
for cheap yo for the chief some of the [ __ ] y'all doing like hey we
- 1:16:56
thought of it hey i started looking at houses
- 1:17:02
i played that out like how can i i can't take this to my little jewish partner
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he ain't gonna understand none of this hey there's 10 episodes [ __ ] just fight each other yo it's lit
- 1:17:14
and y'all want to [ __ ] spread dirt on mona scott's name look at the oscars [Laughter]
- 1:17:22
yo listen this is my last thing on the oscars because i'm i'm doing empathy yo
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[ __ ] out there are liars y'all are full of [ __ ]
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i don't believe y'all y'all ain't never [ __ ] nothing bad before
- 1:17:42
y'all ain't never been to the strip club with a baddie with mitch or uzi if somebody was there like
- 1:17:48
y'all ain't been through [ __ ] y'all just typing things y'all liars
- 1:17:54
yo empathy lets me know that all of y'all are liars cause i'm me
- 1:18:00
and i know the threesomes i've been invited to in my life i do some calculations and metrics
- 1:18:06
all y'all ain't did that like nah it's levels to this it's levels to this
- 1:18:13
so you take will smith and that's why i'm not listening to y'all
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my wife i'm open with and i know a little bit about that not
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the white part but the open part whatever you name you come up with i'm
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not i'm exhibitionist boyer what they call they they think
- 1:18:35
it's a dish you submissive yeah [ __ ] i do that too i submit
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why do you have me this way take me
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how could you do this to my body you you would be [ __ ] to let the chick
- 1:18:55
pull wax on your dumb ass go ahead you're finished no let's stay here poor [ __ ] hey i've
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been the [ __ ] doing all the work as a smoker you have fun i'm gonna ah i'm so tired
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of this position so what i'm saying is this
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we got different views on [ __ ]
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my girl that met a [ __ ] who's a artist who then introduced him as a friend of
- 1:19:25
the show friend of the son friend of the daughter friend of somebody he needed a place to stay
- 1:19:30
now let him in the crib he's in the house yeah i'm doing me
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but she don't live here i'm just in the crib i'm on the right
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wing y'all on the left wing god forbid i went to get some milk in the middle of the [ __ ] night heard some [ __ ] i
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ain't want to hear you [ __ ] ain't been through nothing yo stop
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stop everybody's just jumping in with what you would do [ __ ] you ain't lived
- 1:19:59
enough to do it let me ask you a question give it to me you been there [ __ ] you did it you did
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it all ain't nothing you ain't i don't know how much you divorced to your little sweetie
- 1:20:11
you got but you have been in every situation we come up with you did it
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[ __ ]
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[ __ ] what up granite counter top [ __ ] cabin cabin and shopping you don't play when
- 1:20:29
it comes to dickin
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[Music]
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this [ __ ] no yo let me ask you this
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when is the conversation going to shift to
- 1:21:10
will smith's like you said empathy right so we we
- 1:21:15
keep talking about protected women protected women protected women got to protect the women
- 1:21:20
we do that wasn't protecting the women when does he get
- 1:21:26
his protection when is society gonna say yo this nigga's going through it and he deserves
- 1:21:31
some group hugs but i think we're there i think we did they not dear no we're
- 1:21:37
not they're not there who's there them society they're not there they might not ever be on love on a black man
- 1:21:44
and so so my point with that and but my point with that is dog this is clearly evident that this
- 1:21:52
man has been suffering and holding and bottling all of this [ __ ] up for a very long time
- 1:21:58
yes why is nobody addressing that because nobody give a [ __ ] it's not
- 1:22:03
about i hate to be the bearer of bad news this is not about hair [ __ ] you guys he's he's going on red table i hit
- 1:22:09
you with this [ __ ] microphone yo dawg come on
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yeah exactly
- 1:22:20
like dog like he need he needs grace he needs something
- 1:22:26
like i feel for this [ __ ] like we're just rocking off chris rock [ __ ] if you don't go dm detroit dust
- 1:22:33
so i should slip it detroit dust has been done too much work in our culture
- 1:22:39
for you to get caught like that on the oscar stage and yesterday morning he put out a video how to not get smacked at
- 1:22:44
the oscars but that was my first thought like dawg you ain't been watching detroit dust
- 1:22:49
because we watch detroit dust and say yo all this [ __ ] is cool but you'll never be in this position and here go chris rock at the oscars right in that
- 1:22:55
position whatever man all right i'm sure this hey yo meg was
- 1:23:01
at the oscars what was that song they let her hop on
- 1:23:07
bruno yeah disney record was she originally on that record i
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don't believe so no she was not it's the remix oh
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debuting at the oscars yeah yeah okay
- 1:23:24
thoughts
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y'all know i can't never really have thoughts on meg because i'm too close to the guy i can't say nothing bad about
- 1:23:37
kevin lowe's i can't do it and that's his like i can't what do you want me to say he sold it
- 1:23:43
no this is his oh this is his gotcha so anytime i talk about her i feel like
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i'm talking about kevin i can't say nothing bad about kevin i cannot even if it's bad even if bad i can't say i'm bad okay so
- 1:23:55
i cannot i'm compromised well i ain't mad at that
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uh i always be saying you know it's okay to be biased compromise just admit it i'm compromised yo i can't i'm not mad at i
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hate when the people do the opposite and claim to be unbiased and give a clearly biased tainted take on something
- 1:24:15
when you know you can't tell the truth so it's cool so she hopped on the remix and performed
- 1:24:20
it at the oscars for the first time first time they ever let him first time what the first woman rapper
- 1:24:26
to ever perform at the oscars ever and ever first nice times are changing first man what
- 1:24:33
first female rapper got you
- 1:24:38
i mean i can't wait till this summer yo it's gonna be a hot summer it's gonna be
- 1:24:44
a hot girl somewhere in a hot boy summer too who's this [ __ ] get the [ __ ] out of
- 1:24:50
here oh [ __ ] all right come on come on we out
- 1:24:58
here we outta here come on come on somebody say something come on i can't leave right now oh help alex says the
- 1:25:03
food is here oh and we've ate i don't know what the word is whatever
- 1:25:09
it is it was good it shall take your proper grammatic ass somewhere else i didn't ask you nothing
- 1:25:15
i'm saying it wrong i'm saying it wrong you did it like come on yo you do that a lot look don't do
- 1:25:21
that look out look what look look at this [ __ ] the cops just create something that's master yo you do that
- 1:25:28
and he's arguing back well i'll just let it go it's proper ass [ __ ] i don't wanna hear
- 1:25:33
none of that mature [ __ ] we smacking [ __ ] up we smacking [ __ ] up hey who you wanna smack out there yo nobody nobody
- 1:25:41
no smacking his back good luck with that i don't got no bell money you got somebody out there you want to get it all way i keep telling
- 1:25:47
y'all fighting it's a business decision and y'all keep wanting to fight y'all keep on y'all keep wanting to fight [ __ ] i'm not fighting at all
- 1:25:53
chris rock you couldn't find a place to smack him yeah y'all doing a different version
- 1:26:00
damn i wish that he would have to chase chris chris rock around that would have been hilarious no that would have been the best [ __ ] in the world yo will
- 1:26:06
packer without a smash on his hands abbott elementary who
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oh man that would have been [ __ ] caught between a rock and a hard place
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[Music] [Laughter] whatever man tyler perry
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oh man and listen y'all in my brain i i was home figuring out what denzel
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was thinking when he had the situation under control and tyler perry popped up
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i'ma allow some silence so y'all can figure out too what y'all think denzel was thinking when
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you know why do i have this perception of tyler perry because because of this [ __ ] like this which one the interview yeah
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yeah this was uh
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this was vanity fair ooh i want to have a real accomplice i can't i can't i can't oh i can't yo
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i want to get canceled right now i do but life is so good
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life's too good to get careful i'm chilling out joe don't give it up no more yeah
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yeah sorry
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[Laughter]
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a living no no no pretending well we was arguing for free we get paid now yeah man what happened
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which one we argue about martinez i don't remember argument during this okay you never argued about tyler perry
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using his media voice during sex what what stance did you think i took
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him in that man no we never did that i didn't even know he did that i thought medea was weird enough
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i didn't think but then i got to think
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tyler perry admits to using his medea voice during sex okay a little role play
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hey i'm not against it but i also know that talks come with role playing
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has anyone here ever role-played [Music] not really role-playing most i would ask
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you out there but most of you are playing a role right now
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[Music]
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no have you ever been asked to no no parks no ice
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no well i'm not about that i'm kinky
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what voice you used i ain't even gonna tell your voice this [ __ ] probably was a costume knowing joe
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voice nah it's gotten deep before voice no what was your ping pong
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no you you beat somebody let's go out you go back somebody go do something i'll pop up all the little meet at the
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bar i've done that okay like i've done i've done some things i was the cop before
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i was my favorite actor before i'm a big mom my friend whatever i left my first month
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what actor what actor were you submissive she was older yeah much much much what actor really she told me
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everything what actor were you you think i remember i don't remember yesterday you said i was my favorite actor who's your favorite actor you
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remember who the [ __ ] you were you were enrolled i was 17. i know all right so who's your favorite 41 years old and now
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you made the bingo [ __ ] be corrected joe say how old he was today
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i swear to god i'ma smack this [ __ ] out of y'all because i notice it now i do it a lot
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42 dog is coming though i can't wait to see what i'm gonna cut off at 42. y'all think i've been
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exhibiting some [ __ ] in the past oh i'm gonna meet a new [ __ ] cut him right off
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see how you slip the jab what was the jab i've never argued about tyler perry using his media voice during sex
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i don't remember that was an unacceptable answer for the three of you yeah y'all sit here twice a week and not divulge anything about your lives i
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don't remember who are you i've never dressed up who are you that i want to be another who are you have you
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all done anything that might be embarrassing self-deprecating absolutely something you might be ashamed of had done any of that you don't want to share
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any of that or you want to just put it all on me huh it's called joe button well what's your name right it's three
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letters so it's three letters i s it's gonna be joel issuing [ __ ]
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it could be that the second you step up to the play it could change don't believe the rumors oh man hello
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hello this is the five dollars i owe
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yo it's the dollar all right you paid up now i'm cool
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react you guys tyler perry is using his media voice during sex i'm not surprised i think it's i think it's hilarious i
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think it's super weird i'm not surprised so if you could roll play in the role
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that you like created no i hope they had fun with it though it is mad weird i would like to know who
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i like laughing during sex so i can see how that could turn into some funny [ __ ] i'm just saying though like if you don't role play like like all right you
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laughing during texas though yeah it is super dope so if you're tyler perry
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the voice is going to get it done you know what i'm saying that's gonna make him come i don't know about that it's gonna make
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him laugh though it's gonna make it real awkward
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wait do you think that was a problem request you think he just volunteered the media voice
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right now or else or else it's gonna get worse
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yo y'all never never talk to your partner like you're the punisher yeah it could get bad for you yo
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hello [Music] can y'all fam i ain't did that [ __ ] i'm sorry
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i don't even want to i'm trying not to talk about this yo oh man you don't even want to talk
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bad all right so then we offered it it was your topic you brought up you don't want to talk about it not mine
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oh you think i pulled that out the back pocket uh madea ice what do you think he was saying
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all right come on we're moving up uh we're moving on what else what's up it's fine it's fine it's fine no
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honestly we can move on i know then help me you should no help me move it along
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you [ __ ] [ __ ] all right you're so pretty man
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jesus damn let's leave that alone damn it freddy gibbs and benny the butcher are still going
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online little jabs back and forth that's your bag parks
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why because you're the backpacker yeah oh okay i like seeing this [ __ ]
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i don't want to hype yeah y'all don't like seeing [ __ ] get smacked y'all don't like seeing them
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like what are you all like in the violin what happens with the with the rapper beefs is it turns into deaths and then
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we come in here saying playing it's so hard [ __ ] that's do i don't know nobody want to see this [ __ ]
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[ __ ] are you talking about yo can you save that mature [ __ ] for
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later yo these these [ __ ] are not killing each other there's no violence behind this wrapper
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beef like it's this is such a stupid beef this is boredom beef this is a this is not a star beef who knows
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i believe it was gibbs tweet or a punch line or two somebody said these [ __ ] like each other they know
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that each one of them can rap like um what did the stuff what are you doing yo what are you doing
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both of y'all are successful both of y'all are getting money both of y'all got kids raising families like y'all
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both doing it get this hip hoppity cockamania [ __ ] out of my i don't care and i know both you [ __ ] and i
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like both you [ __ ] stop both of you [ __ ] stop stop stop and don't text me neither a minute
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i'm sick of that [ __ ] like just stop yeah i want to come in and say a take and not get texts from the person i have a take about
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see my thing is leave the gimmicks leave the rapper gimmicks to the rappers that need them because
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they can't rap like both of y'all can rap or rap act like you just go watch it go rap go do
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it like it's [ __ ] that have to do this if pusha t could diss a [ __ ] fish sandwich and y'all can do a little
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better than these [ __ ] month-to-month sublime like knock it off what if the fish sandwich responds
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how would you feel about it as a rapper what if it gets you how do you get bodies
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yeah come on man i don't know i wish i wish these brothers the best i wish these guys the best
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i wish they would knock it out how can you hate on a [ __ ] you begged to do our album with i'm mad easy
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what's wrong with you man there's one reason right there what's he thinking i can respect you and diss you
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the end i could want to work with you and diss you or that exists i can diss you because i don't think i can work
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with you like i wanted to i've ever dissed anybody i didn't want to work with that's never happened
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yeah don't make a lot of sense [ __ ] that don't make sense though but you got it yeah it does don't matter
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went back and tried to work with it well you think that'll make sense um you want to diss people that can rap i know
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ish creative bonus body with a song man that [ __ ] build them houses they look what does that have to do with my my
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thoughts on beefing with the [ __ ] because cause this ain't beef no no no no because it would seem crazy like it
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don't make sense if you're not in it and not familiar with it like it wouldn't seem logical it would seem crazy
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astonishing so i respect you when you say it but if you in it them doing this seems that's not like
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get to it somebody send a [ __ ] shot if y'all think it's so nice yeah that's true i agree yeah
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i'd rather hear songs and like retweets so rap then or
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shut the [ __ ] up and this is why i know that [ __ ] couldn't play with me in this era of the day man
- 1:37:38
it wouldn't be none of this well it wouldn't be nice you couldn't even tweet about me like this hello and i
- 1:37:43
gotta shut up because i'm retired but you couldn't do it yeah i think i think social media in general changed that for
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the rappers [ __ ] throw this [ __ ] [ __ ] what [ __ ] i hear that line one more time no
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disagree don't [ __ ] humans are making or letting social media they are [ __ ]
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you think they're not it's not okay i'm not saying okay or not but this is what's happening
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but it's not okay the same way look the same way we say that we make it like that no i'm not
- 1:38:15
making it okay i'm just addressing something that i've seen happen i believe if social media was around in
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the 90s some of our favorite rappers who was dissing each other would have been doing this [ __ ] no they wouldn't
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no they probably wouldn't they would was 100 different back then you think either i'm
- 1:38:32
gonna send these bars your way because there was no other outlets though when i see you i might punch you in the face but you was gonna get this
- 1:38:39
there was no other outlets now i could cut my camera on i ain't got the right [ __ ] i could type it on the black screen and
- 1:38:45
send it out there to you that way i don't have to put no thought no energy no effort into none of this [ __ ] no more that's way more creative when you when
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you a rapper man we saw what happened when smack dvd came to the hood and cut the cameras on
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[ __ ] stopped rapping so much it was just addressing that [ __ ] once you put a camera it's another outlet to get my
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[ __ ] out right away it changed things now i don't even need to wait for the camera crew i got the camera myself
- 1:39:08
it changed things i do believe if social media was around in the 90s [ __ ] would go different
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park wouldn't have waited to hit him up to say i [ __ ] your girl it'd have been a tweet damn
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you might be right though i don't think it's right either but who cares i don't care
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so we got us but well i say that because the era we grew up in and what these
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[ __ ] is living in right now is two different and i'm not talking age i'm just saying the world that they live
- 1:39:36
they're like i'm not talking age once you get to the area that we we grew up and you're talking asia
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you can't say that without talking these [ __ ] are active and participating in the way the world is today i know but
- 1:39:46
they also weren't there for how the world was so when you say no they bought our age yeah these [ __ ] is who is our
- 1:39:53
age i'm talking about them too what to do gibson gibson oh i'm off for them man i don't give a [ __ ] with them
- 1:39:58
[ __ ] doing it i'm oh my bad but i'm just saying that's why no no because i was going back to that which is why
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we're not getting how you said yo y'all both great rap i think they're not rapping because i
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could just do it this way and now i don't care about what they're doing but i don't care about this they got more they got more money now so
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i'm not giving out no free raps because somebody could potentially capitalize on i'm not gonna listen we're
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down here you [ __ ] want some attention just each other like for real not just fiction now onto something i do think is
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interesting t.i says did he stop podcasting because he ain't make no money
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first person to say it first person to finally say i jumped in it for a bag i didn't get a
- 1:40:40
bag and i left i guess settled me into it but now i ain't like i ain't like really
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i like it for a week or two really i feel like everybody who does it it became a job
- 1:40:53
you gotta read these ads gotta read these ads hey you gotta be here at this time hey you gotta receive the spoils that came with it
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right i never really i ain't never get no money how you see other like uh
- 1:41:07
charlemagne and you and joe rogan and gillian wallow i ain't never get that
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right you know it was just a bunch of [ __ ] appointments
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but i had great conversation i met great people and i and i feel like i enjoyed that part of it but when i get the call
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like what man you didn't get some crazy contract
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i don't know what you mean like what what crazy contract well you know you hear about joe rogan getting a hundred million dollars from spotify never
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happened i i never had it adam you gotta stop that no more than tens of thousands of dollars you gotta stop that
- 1:41:44
he does like a junior vlad thing sometimes you hear about joe rogan adam you know joe rogan it's joe rogan shut up shut up
- 1:41:52
i thought that that take was super interesting from t.i who comes into podcasting as a rapper
- 1:41:59
as a television star uh and his podcast did have a deal
- 1:42:04
somewhere somewhere i don't remember where but it wasn't just distributed independently
- 1:42:09
through him so when he talks about it feeling like a job having to do ads having to show up a certain time talking to this person that
- 1:42:16
person and it feeling like formulaic i understand that
- 1:42:21
but there's an entire wave of people out there that jump into podcasting thinking it's a quick and easy bag because that's
- 1:42:28
what they were told and then they quickly what they saw wasn't the case no matter who you are
- 1:42:34
and t.i very different from a lot of us comes into podcast and there's a multi-millionaire
- 1:42:41
i don't have that story i can't speak to his experience and he said i only made tens of
- 1:42:46
thousands of dollars so for a bunch of beginning potters that would be sufficient for them true no no you're right you know what
- 1:42:53
i'm saying like absolutely for a bunch of new powders that would be sufficient for him t.i that's always this should be
- 1:42:58
yeah i said it should be in a place where time equates to money right where time equates to money and so the time that
- 1:43:05
you allocate and wow that i see is that the visionary the t.i
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is can't see a way around that and i certainly ain't going to tell him
- 1:43:16
he might not have been passionate i think that's probably part of it yeah he said you know no matter what it looks like work see
- 1:43:22
and that's why oh this [ __ ] hip-hop game your passion don't mean nothing if you sell your ass
- 1:43:28
for a certain amount and i'll tell my tia clearly he said he's not passionate about podcasting but he thought there was enough money in it to where he would
- 1:43:35
have he would have pushed some of that to the side and showed up to work but when there's no passion and there's no money
- 1:43:41
why am i here maybe it's gonna be tough to get me here yeah or you don't have any takers i honestly and i got money and i got
- 1:43:47
money there's mad podcasters out there with no passion
- 1:43:53
well some of them are getting paper though passion passion passion
- 1:43:58
passion like empathy but then they how long does it last
- 1:44:04
forget what i'm saying like how long did this remains to be seen i guess because it it it it feels like work
- 1:44:10
it is work i know but you don't think it's work when you dive into it true you think yo i got something to say if they
- 1:44:16
could do it i could do it my man just started a podcast the other day yo and i'm like what you trying to do you're
- 1:44:22
trying to monetize it he's like eventually i'm like all right good luck but they think that i got something to
- 1:44:27
say they don't know [ __ ] you gotta talk for a long time uninterruptedly you show his [ __ ] good luck as a pod superstar
- 1:44:35
[ __ ] i've had that conversation with quite a few people where i'm like y'all be over looking [ __ ] what he's
- 1:44:42
wrong he tapped that [ __ ] up and said good luck
- 1:44:49
i don't know yeah good luck with your [ __ ] i don't see anything wrong with that i'm
- 1:44:55
lost though i'm lost hey alex you understand what he's saying that that the right yes my god alex
- 1:45:03
whose side are you on in this ish ours which type who do you understand ain't rocking with brother ish man yeah i
- 1:45:09
didn't like him a little bit more now you're a superstar yeah come on so what are you supposed to do i'm a super what
- 1:45:15
shut up yo um shut up what what are you supposed to do come here shout out shut up i'm lost
- 1:45:20
i'm not a pod superstar says you
- 1:45:26
yes you're not gonna get me here to give you all the leverage to re-up your contract
- 1:45:31
[Laughter] you do okay you alright you're lying i appreciate
- 1:45:36
you okay you know what you know what you convinced me
- 1:45:42
you're not can you repeat it a few more times did you not applaud superstar
- 1:45:47
s-u-p-e-r stupid right inside here just to make sure no but i was talking to my man like
- 1:45:52
people just think that they got something that the world want to hear it looks very weird you told him that no no
- 1:45:57
i didn't say that to my man no no no no i said everybody be like yo i i want to start a pod i want to start a pod i want
- 1:46:04
to start a pod fam you have to one be able to break down [ __ ] that's going on in a unique way and give a perspective
- 1:46:11
that hasn't been heard seven thousand times that's one two some people may have
- 1:46:16
great thoughts but are not able to convey and articulate their thoughts that's something that everybody don't
- 1:46:21
possess yeah excuse me um and then you just gotta be able to be
- 1:46:26
charismatic you like this fool when he comes in we could be asleep in a truck and he gets out the truck and he do some
- 1:46:33
and he wakes up and he will turn that [ __ ] off nah he wakes right up yeah you good i'm saying
- 1:46:38
like literally he just got clapping yeah i mean you do you wake right up everybody don't
- 1:46:44
possess that true that's not in everybody's um demeanor right they don't have it and
- 1:46:49
then you get to the uh difficulties of production and scheduling
- 1:46:56
engaging enough where people want to hear you right i think that is amazing
- 1:47:01
and i've been here a year i think that's amazing that people curse us out if we take a day off
- 1:47:08
like i blew me away what i'm saying like damn that i i never listened to podcasts before i
- 1:47:13
came on this show so for me i'm like i don't give a [ __ ] about that [ __ ] and a lot of people just
- 1:47:19
look at it and see you're just you never played ball and went to the
- 1:47:24
league that was nice joe what are you doing that was nice i'm
- 1:47:29
talking about your potting example i ain't even listening to that and i'm just here to listen y'all
- 1:47:37
nah i never really listened to the podcast clinic all right you [ __ ] learn how to party no you want to bring it up to say that
- 1:47:44
he didn't get any money you had a point to me no that's it that was just interesting
- 1:48:03
that's the area that i want to work on is my introduction ladies and gentlemen gentlemen gentlemen
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we have a special guest now listen they hate when i have guests yeah i ain't going with you they
- 1:48:18
cause they like me [Laughter]
- 1:48:23
that was narcissistic not him no no no no truth ish i'm not a
- 1:48:29
narcissist they just use they hey they use the narcissist like like they're using parsley
- 1:48:38
[ __ ] say that they're throwing that word around like the chef little green [ __ ] on the street because they like me
- 1:48:43
that would that's the definition of narcissism you don't talk about oh you're not gonna do this
- 1:48:50
he do this [ __ ] where he get therapeutic on you get the [ __ ] out of here with that [ __ ] they do like me see and y'all won't
- 1:48:57
shame me y'all won't condition me into thinking that that's a bad no they like you to recognize they like you they love me that i'm liked and loved yeah that's
- 1:49:04
some new age [ __ ] where they trick you into being guilty about being liked embrace your space no you you won't let
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me in bro yo i'm letting you embrace [ __ ] i'm hugging my ladies and gentlemen
- 1:49:16
we have a special guest here right who's promo and some [ __ ] he's promoting the movie but the movie
- 1:49:22
does look good it was good thank you i checked it i would have had to have an uncomfortable conversation
- 1:49:29
that's all good man just keep pushing it back call me a fat face
- 1:49:38
but what movie was that uh fatal affair with a knee alone come on i was like i'm watching like
- 1:49:45
words come on that's what we're doing oh come on like we just gonna snap all day
- 1:49:50
you know i'm an honorary win see what happens but listen now see no
- 1:49:58
it caught you on that stage but he was a little
- 1:50:03
his face was heavier than we've known it to be in that movie it was in a pandemic what you want me to do
- 1:50:10
but i didn't know he was like an avid listener of the show oh my eps but when i spoke to me let me know yo
- 1:50:17
[ __ ] i heard that [ __ ] you said that [ __ ] you said and i know where you live yeah
- 1:50:23
i bugged out with that one ladies and gentlemen black excellence is here we have omar
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epps brooklyn what are we doing he's broken is that
- 1:50:34
still a thing
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all the brooklyn [ __ ] in atlanta they still screaming that it's true uh good point good point yo you gonna get banned
- 1:50:47
from atlanta that's my second hole [ __ ]
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you're looking good now thank you sir i don't know if i'm the first one with a blazer on on the joint
- 1:51:06
might be actually yeah i mean come to think about it cream now you came in here with the cream cream you did you know what i'm saying on my
- 1:51:12
ghost face i just need some walnuts
- 1:51:18
now listen that's the part that see i know this is omar fc a lot of us know him from
- 1:51:23
movie acclaim like a lot of great movies use all that [ __ ] cool we gotta know the legends but you could
- 1:51:29
forget oh no come on come on come on come on you gotta keep it it's a little different
- 1:51:37
last time i went out i went out last time we went out to breakfast or brunch or whatever that was oh was telling me
- 1:51:42
like a real sentimental like private tupac story right and in that it was
- 1:51:48
about the time of tupac's death and my stupid ass sitting there cutting the stake
- 1:51:54
mouth on the tail george yeah but at the time did you did you know tupac
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[Music] that's your man
- 1:52:06
that's your man it's right there did you know tupac no i know never heard of him
- 1:52:11
yo just your man you were alive you saw me
- 1:52:17
i was listening to the story i was engulfed in what he was saying yo he's joe budden is what we used to call
- 1:52:24
special yeah in the building no no no no little
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all right classic oh [ __ ] and i came up with
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pumping up from this oh this is full circle [Music]
- 1:52:57
wait wait tell me that story though how that how huh how pump it up from that
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oh [ __ ] because just blaze gives me the [ __ ] beat of all beats but it was a three bar loop or whatever
- 1:53:09
five or something some weird [ __ ] that i wasn't familiar with at the time so it took me a while to write to that and when i wrote to it it was time to get to
- 1:53:15
the hook and i couldn't think about it i could not think of a course and it was just great verses and a great
- 1:53:20
beat but you knew the hook would take it somewhere so i had a show in florida tampa somewhere somewhere with writer's
- 1:53:26
block trying to come up with the chorus to this record and i'm in the hotel room by myself and juice is on
- 1:53:32
and here comes omar epps doing skinny face
- 1:53:38
when he had the dj audition [Music]
- 1:53:45
and i said oh i got it i got him i got it i got it what that
- 1:53:51
sounds like to me is
- 1:54:05
all right so we have a movie out right yeah i haven't seen it it's coming up i haven't seen it yet but i saw the trail
- 1:54:11
and the trailer looks good my wife haley's not the bad guy uh you not fat face it looks great
- 1:54:17
i'm watching this this one i'm watching yeah i saw me a screener but the link didn't work
- 1:54:23
so and you have the writer here and he seems darker so that lets me know the great show's more oh yeah charles murray
- 1:54:30
are you dark he's he's full of [ __ ] i have a town i can spot a dark [ __ ] man
- 1:54:36
but listen tell me about the movie oh it's a beautiful film man it's it's a story about you saw it yeah i watched
- 1:54:41
you notice about it it's a story about family about brotherhood about uh morality redemption
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and it's told intentionally through the lens of blackness you know what i'm saying like and but but at the same time
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it's a film for everybody we all know what it feels like to be around the table having these dinners or nana's
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cooking you know what i'm saying it's such a sad show here come cousin such and such uncle such and such and cracked
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open the bottle you know the [ __ ] coming fighting yeah i mean you know it stuff like that but it's also a crime uh
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drama underneath it because it's like one of the brothers my character finds out one of his
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brothers might have had something to do with something that's really heinous you snitched well you got to watch the movie man come
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on see i ain't never paint you against me i ain't never painted
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but it's really about you know when we've been talking about it it's like no one knows what they would do until
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they're in that situation you know what i'm saying period like it doesn't matter what it is you just don't know what you
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do and you find out the true character of people in the moment of when [ __ ] is hitting
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the fan trund you know what i mean so it's a film it's a film like that and i'm really really excited you haven't
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seen um i believe you haven't seen a film like this in a long time especially from a black filmmaker you know you
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think of the films like uh mystic river or the town or it's like you know they keep trying to restrain us
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for being able to tell stories like phenomenal movies though yeah yeah
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but i'm just saying but i'm talking about the storytelling and us being portrayed even like for instance you
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know these these dinner scenes but usually in a black film the dinner scenes or it's thanksgiving and it's
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christmas and somebody passed away everybody coming back together no this is just regular sunday night yeah the
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family did that [ __ ] every you know what i mean so we said as we always do try to push the needle
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and um you know this power imagery that we we discussed that on before is is really
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important to me you know what i mean because i finally realize and understand that
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everything that i'm a part of um through this artistry is gonna outlast me so what am i giving what am i really
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giving to the world and how will that influence the younger generations for the better so you're intentionally
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trying to find roles and be a part of projects that take that kind of mentality yeah i guess it's definitely an
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intention um but it's not like i'm seeking specific things that i'm just as
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i've opened myself up the universe has sort of conspired with me and if you get him to talk about the
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universe we'll be here for eight hours you say that like it's a bad thing no no i'm the same way oh okay i'm just
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letting him know yeah yeah they could get university fast so is there a god no i'm sorry
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we're just jumping in there the important the important part i don't know if i can can you speak about the ownership equity
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part and the importance absolutely oh yeah i'd love to hear it because that was the important part for me well look it took us it took me and charles eight
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years to make this film i mean this came from a conversation we had um and i was like yo that's a dope idea
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let's let me read the script he was like i ain't wrote it yet and i'm like what the hell you got me all riled up for
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you know and then we go through the process but all through these years it was incredible like we just kept getting
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no after no after i don't know and this and that and all that [ __ ] you know
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and again i believe in divine poetry and i believe in divine timing so when things
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are ready the universe will open up like yeah you can do it now but when you talk about ownership that's that's the whole
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mission right now you know what i'm saying i'm i've been so blessed in my career so very blessed um
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in in in every way right but like most of the films that people um
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love and talk about and i'm like yo i tell my kids i'm like yo it's dope that people
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still watching this you know 30 years later 20 years later but i don't own none of that right i'm saying
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and that's not a fault of my own i was 17 when i made juice i ain't no [ __ ] about nothing of course i did enough
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about the business and i didn't necessarily the people that i've worked with have been great but nobody was in my ear like
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yo you know x y and z and this is how this really works here's the matrix it took me
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30 years to find out oh this is the matrix and this is what this is about because where we come from you're just
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trying to get a check you're just trying to feed yourself so if i could take care of my family oh now i got a nice car ooh
- 1:59:08
i could buy a house you're not thinking intellectual property and assets and all
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these you're not even thinking like that how does it take you 30 years to learn and acting i know how it takes us 30
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years to learn into music but in acting what are the steps what are the pivotal
- 1:59:24
moments do we realize wait well you start looking around the room well that's that's interesting in what you say because in my opinion it's way
- 1:59:31
easier to learn that in music because music is so much more hands-on you go out and touch the people you gotta go perform the show you gotta go
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in acting you know the delivery of a movie you gotta go through unions you gotta
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there's there's all the red tape is different so you're constantly focused on just
- 1:59:49
here's the check you know and here's the opportunity you're not thinking down the line and now that we've skipped forward
- 1:59:55
to streaming no one's was imagining that could happen you know we know what that is in the
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music business you know what i'm saying but in our business it's the same thing just in a different way and i'm happy
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for the younger generation that's coming up with this knowledge you know they're coming up with it like oh no i could do
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this that way or i could do this this way or you know i look at young cats like a michael b jordan or whomever
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that's really taking that part of it seriously you know so you know they could offer the the the
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the check sometimes you got to know you got to balance it out like yeah if they back up the truck and like they're just
- 2:00:31
going to dump a pile of money you know if you need that at that time you need to know how to work with it because at
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the end of the day from where we come from it's all about hustling you know what i'm saying but you know you don't own none of that and
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in 20 years you're still around and you're like hey they're replaying this on planes and
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like everywhere everywhere does that make you feel different about the cultural equity that comes with the
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juice that comes with it in too deep what do you mean by that like those are staples
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but you say cultural equity because there's a cultural equity that comes with juice the way that we regard juice
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is like they regard the notebook or like i see what you're saying no it doesn't make me feel different anyway i'm that's
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the the blessing i'm so thankful because i wouldn't be here without the people you know what i'm saying at the end of
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the day yeah i put the work in but people have to respond to you put the record out but somebody gotta listen to
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it and like it that's true for it to have true meaning outside of you right and that's what we do it for right so
- 2:01:34
it's like nah that part of it that's the blessing i love the people you know and i'm so appreciative this part is on me
- 2:01:41
to learn and to get better and and to move in shape and that's why i made certain moves even like when i went to
- 2:01:47
tv that was an intentional pivot that wasn't just a job i was sitting around so you currently on tv yeah raising
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kanan season three coming soon um i wish i watched that show so i could
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ask you but that's the only power shot you're a sucker son yeah
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no but no i'm gonna watch it because you in it i'm watching it i just listened to your podcast from day one and this dude
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i just haven't seen it because of kanan wow what do you mean
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oh wait no kanan i watch no i watch kanan he ain't watching
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he never was gonna watch it oh no i love you no no you never watched no cain and i love i confused it with tariq no no no that's
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nothing don't put the trail up there i'll see what y'all doing
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no this is my show right now oh that's a wreak [ __ ] put on cheers
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hey what do you think about some of those great white shows that they tried to force feed down our throats like mash and cheers and the [ __ ] love boat all
- 2:02:55
this [ __ ] the reality is no tell the truth i'm telling the truth you know we always just speak wrong the truth is
- 2:03:02
listen a great show was a great show [ __ ] what's match great i hated manchester united with star trek that
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was great they told us it was yeah i just personally didn't like match it when i was a kid
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you know i probably didn't understand half of the i never seen things that were going theme song put me to sleep
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[ __ ] used to come on at 11 00 and that's when it was night nights was in the hospital it's like all right
- 2:03:24
i'll do it oh when they would when you went a house when i was in the hospital oh like all right we got man it's fine i'll just i'll just watch it i'm late
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that's crazy yeah yeah nah but i look i love cheers um i used to love mork and
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mindy like a great show was a great it was great writing on them shows back in the day yeah and it like i love all the uh
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what's my man that um um norm norman lear he has some really great shows like you
- 2:03:49
know what i'm saying and and you can appreciate that as an artist without color right i don't put that on the artist i put it
- 2:03:56
on the design of the system right so most of these and you can go farther back than that when they haven't you
- 2:04:01
know cleopatra is a white woman and that and the other that's not the fault of the artists that were
- 2:04:07
constructing it the design of the system oh we tell this story that way and so forth and so on oh it's great man yeah
- 2:04:14
he's a great conversation but you see what i'm saying absolutely right absolutely so we're moving now that's why i'm so excited for these
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young filmmakers and i'm so thankful to still be around and pushing forward in the ways that i can because they're
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changing that narrative not only from in front of the camera but behind the camera question i mean question for you
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y'all spoke on um the music business versus film and you said it's easier in the music
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business you think and i think i was gonna jump in um do you think it's easier
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because of the puffs and the jays and uh and the masterpiece and the jermaine dupris as opposed to film we don't have
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that many tyler perry's you get them saying oh we don't have that many gentlemen like yourself
- 2:05:00
i would say we're going to stand lathan stan is that dude no no
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everybody in here by the way for all those watching or all those listening everybody's shaking their head when i'm saying that but let me ask you a
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question real quick let me ask you a question i believe it's easier in music because
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of technology because you don't need nobody true you see what i'm saying
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that's true you got the program that's true you can make the beat your man put a song on youtube and just put it in there
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and it's out there there's no red tape there's no oh you got to go through when you make a film you got a
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city actors union you got a director's union you got the producers union you got the grips and elect they have unions
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making the hair have you like it's all of these boxes that have to be checked they're easily showing you musicians
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what you should be doing every every category right all of them it's true it should be a producers union engineering rappers
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union right it should be this union yeah but i'm saying like to to so to produce the thing
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is like not only that it's so many people true yeah right it's
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like even if we even if you and your squad was like oh we're gonna make a movie that's like
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20 people or more you gotta get the municipalities to do what are you shooting
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at on permits and things of that nature you know when i watch the movies now i'm i'm looking at how many locations
- 2:06:34
they're shotting this is what i'm talking about because and now your budget gotta i hate that i do that as a consumer well like i want to just enjoy
- 2:06:41
the movie but it's like listen to music no you can't no you're doing it you don't listen to music like i think that was blair witch that broke my brain
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yeah like wait y'all made how much from what shooting what that where what was
- 2:06:53
the other one was uh paranormal activity yes another one yeah they made that for nothing and you just
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and then you see the margin like oh my god but friday too friday they really ain't leave the porch
- 2:07:06
you kill them locations yeah yeah they really didn't leave the porch i think i saw something about police academy recently they spent like 23 million or
- 2:07:12
something right they spent some money on that that's a lot of you know but you got to figure what paranormal how much
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they spent on that thousand dollars and how much it makes that's what that's 15 grand
- 2:07:31
yeah no that's exactly what i'm saying so in the music business we had barry gordy
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and then if you want to say you branched off you branched off into little subsets of
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clearance yeah yeah yeah yeah executive quote-unquote ship yeah in the music
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business and then that birthed the puffs and that the andre why does that not exist in in
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moving film i think money is the expense a big part i think money is a big part like tyler perry is doing what he's
- 2:08:01
doing but he a billionaire now y'all ain't gonna tell the truth no the problem is it it's the there's only the
- 2:08:07
problem with tyler perry is there's only one time that's what i'm saying he said he uses the media voice during sex oh
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man wow that was why is this the training that worked we just discussed it's breaking news no
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i think i think that the money is the media voice there
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yo but back to tyler perry tyler perry has enough money to kind of get through the red tape
- 2:08:40
yeah but how did he get that tyler perry had ownership coming in the game because he was doing these plays
- 2:08:47
he was making so much money that when he first came like hey i should i y'all shouldn't flip this into a i'm gonna put
- 2:08:53
on these straight without the name y'all should want to flip this into uh a movie and they was like
- 2:09:01
nah we don't know and he was like all right i'll just go back out there i'll do it myself and no create money and just keep
- 2:09:07
doing what i'm doing because he was getting so much bread okay stack up stacking up that there was someone in
- 2:09:13
there was like we need to make a deal with this dude and he was able to get in that way you know what i'm saying which is
- 2:09:18
interesting because now they don't even want you if you don't if it ain't tv rights attached if we can't turn it into a television
- 2:09:24
show or franchise then yeah i mean that's a whole level that's a whole other conversation because now you're
- 2:09:29
looking at the streamers and the way that the business is is transforming itself where they want to own everything
- 2:09:36
the entire vertical you know everything was cross pollinate whatever now it's like we own it from the
- 2:09:42
inception to in perpetuity and that's the word right there for you young aspiring artists and creatives that
- 2:09:49
y'all need to know perpetuity means forever i don't see things in contracts that
- 2:09:54
don't even make sense like if there should if we should discover life on another planet
- 2:10:00
literally yeah i believe in a concert that oh we will still own this image and likeness and blah blah blah blah so that
- 2:10:07
is that'll shift your mind like who's even thinking about that when you cut when you're constructing a deal that's
- 2:10:14
like make you think do you know something i don't know and you know what i'm saying and then then you start thinking about
- 2:10:20
your legacy right you start thinking about like i think we talked about this too
- 2:10:25
but it's like you start thinking about you know i think about park a lot and tupac
- 2:10:30
did all that he did in six years that's crazy we did we did juice when he was 19
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passed away at 25 and all of what we've heard from him and know of him is in
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that short span but who owns it you know what i'm saying who who truly
- 2:10:50
owns his i guess you would call it catalog you know what i'm saying does he what were those deals he made for the movies
- 2:10:56
that he did after juice i could tell you right now i got paid 12 grand for juice it's no shame in the game it was my
- 2:11:01
first movie i was 17. i was hood rich you know what i'm saying like to me no
- 2:11:07
you wouldn't you wasn't hood but i'm just saying yo you put on a
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[ __ ] show for 12 grand man there's nothing there's no royalties in that they all do nah the roar see the way
- 2:11:19
that the royalty people talk about oh residuals residuals go down the longer that the ip
- 2:11:26
will last exactly josh like that get the highest checks while it's still there right right right right right right right and then there's also rules
- 2:11:31
like this like i know you done seen checks with like 15 you you spend more money on the paper
- 2:11:38
to print it than you know what i'm saying so it's like and that's why it comes down to ownership because when they're
- 2:11:45
reselling the ip people who have that true ownership back in whatever you want to
- 2:11:51
call it you know if they resell the joe button show for 25 million dollars in france
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for six months somebody yeah use another girl you know what i'm going for 500 000 dollars
- 2:12:07
a chunk of that right but you're talking about the entire world and there's seven and a half billion people or whatsoever
- 2:12:13
and and you know most of the world now has some form of technology from every continent every place every
- 2:12:20
region these are all deal points you know what i'm saying is but they they swallowed all of that up they'll
- 2:12:27
swallow up all the distribution points um that's the i feel like in music
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and in film that's the next uh that's the next point of attack the golem is the distribution
- 2:12:40
because we could do all of this but if i still gotta go through somebody else to put it out they're taking a
- 2:12:46
third they're gonna take a picture you see what i'm saying and what's the what's the point and that's where streaming is seems exciting
- 2:12:54
but to me you know the i think the number is 1350 streams equals one physical album
- 2:13:02
cell who came up with this number and they keep moving how do you come up with this that's the crazy part they keep moving
- 2:13:07
so you're making the rules up as you go and look i don't even make 100 but when michael jackson sold
- 2:13:13
50 million records that means 50 million people physical records things we know we sent this store 2 000
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records we sent that store such and such and i'm supposed to getting x amount of that and that's what
- 2:13:25
i'm going to get that amount of people went out and bought that thing right that's a whole different can of worms so
- 2:13:30
it's like wait how does 1350 streams equal one physical album how does it
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work in film because you've mentioned streaming a couple times and we've related it to music a couple times how
- 2:13:41
has streaming affected film from like an actor perspective or from a producer filmmaker perspective or just from a
- 2:13:48
quantitative perspective when you used to say um this film was a blockbuster smash it grossed xyz amount of dollars
- 2:13:55
at the box office in the first weekend right now how do you how do you put that
- 2:14:00
in numbers when streams are out it's it's this the way you're doing right now
- 2:14:08
partly that but the way it's an unanswered question so because i've been asking this question like well
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how how do you quantify a stream for a film or a tv show because
- 2:14:20
you are saying everything is based on algorithms which are it's a.i it's pre-programmed which means you can
- 2:14:27
control that so you can tell me hey 10 000 people watch this show at such and such a time i mean even nielsen was
- 2:14:34
[ __ ] because there was only like 7 000 nils in boxes in the whole country if i'm not mistaken
- 2:14:40
and they i ain't never known nobody with a nielsen box in the project so it's like taking a poll it's relative
- 2:14:46
to who you're speaking to that's true right so it's manufactured in that sense sure and but then again there's another
- 2:14:53
part of it that's like is exciting like yo we really don't need the middleman no
- 2:14:58
more because that's what it's coming down to direct to consumer dame dashman preaching that for years i
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love dame i respect him and he's ahead of his time and that that train of thought direct to consumer
- 2:15:12
you know what i'm saying we have the infrastructure enough if we work together together you know i i can't do
- 2:15:18
what you do you can't do what i do i can't do with you but we each take a a piece and say all right boom let's pull
- 2:15:24
it in together and we kind of do it this way and then really where they really really have us in hollywood is the
- 2:15:31
marketing spin because guess what doing some wild [ __ ] on ig or whatever whatever that ain't
- 2:15:37
gonna get you you know a leading role in the movie it don't work like that you know what i'm saying
- 2:15:42
it's it's a whole different can of worms when it comes to that and i'm not we're not even having the talent conversation right not yet yeah like you have the
- 2:15:49
talent obviously but i learned a long time ago talent is ten percent your discipline is ninety percent your hustle
- 2:15:55
is ninety percent yeah yeah i mean you know how many people i know that could sing rap whatever
- 2:16:00
rings around some of the time they want to walk to get that cheesecake
- 2:16:07
that's true i just talked i just talked about it emotionally i would have ran to get the cheesecake
- 2:16:12
this is what i'm saying here's a question for you that's either really stupid or really brilliant on this topic
- 2:16:19
and like you said for us in music it's easier in music right if i make a four minute song
- 2:16:27
and i it plays on the radio it needs to play for 60 seconds to count
- 2:16:32
as a spin or 90 seconds counter to spend i know that same thing to exist in
- 2:16:38
streaming for music oh film too i think so right and that's my question if that exists in film sure how
- 2:16:46
long is it what's the amount of time because now we could start to do math yeah if a movie is streaming how long
- 2:16:53
does a customer have to watch for it to count as a stream because it certainly is not the entire movie i have that same
- 2:17:00
issue with podcasting um a podcast is two three hours long
- 2:17:06
you know what's on the only hours huh only hours not true there's more there are some
- 2:17:12
there's more no not a lot but the point is for the people that are are putting out the content that way
- 2:17:19
the songs break up how they break up they listen to a three-hour pod why does that count as whatever y'all
- 2:17:26
count it as when the time is time consumption uh it's a trick it's a trick
- 2:17:32
in the system so i would feel the same way if i was an actor doing a three-hour movie and a [ __ ] turn on his little app i don't
- 2:17:38
care if you watched it for 20 minutes that's the stream that's what i'm saying that's what i'm getting to they have
- 2:17:45
these analytics and they say oh we know that now i'm going to tell you something we know that people only watch it for
- 2:17:51
you know this amount of time and then they went off for assumptions and then that's
- 2:17:56
they're trying to take that um that method and then it bleeds into
- 2:18:02
how people are creating things now and that's the dangerous part because now they're like oh the trailer has to
- 2:18:09
look like this so to such it because we know that you know people only watch it this amount of time with you and it's
- 2:18:14
like that's why that's why that company quibby failed you know what i'm saying and i knew it was gonna fail because the
- 2:18:20
idea behind it seemed you know quippy was a company that how'd you know because i bought that [ __ ]
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i knew because i'm like this it's like it's they're big names big backing they
- 2:18:31
had original they're never going to use anything and they move the needle they don't mean anything and they their whole thing was based around short form
- 2:18:38
content not just short form interstitial you know we have the analytics that say
- 2:18:44
women when they're in the supermarket and they're online they're looking at their phone for such a such amount of time and blah blah blah and we need to
- 2:18:50
make content for that and i'm like you know how active life is yeah you're not you're not factoring in you know their
- 2:18:56
kid is running around bad ass and they got to go chase them down the aisle and do this or when people go to the gas
- 2:19:02
station all the things that the algorithms don't factor in you're right because
- 2:19:07
human creativity is the original algorithm it's the draw but we're killing that and you can't predict human
- 2:19:14
behavior that's the part of it that makes it they say they can't say they they say they
- 2:19:20
let me ask you this the whole room any app when you go on there and it says
- 2:19:26
suggested you know something something where i'm actually really clear that's not where i'm at with it
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you never want to watch that you'll be wondering why are they sending this to me i don't want to watch that because they think they know me better than just
- 2:19:37
proves the algorithm which think they know me better than me off air ish was explaining to us
- 2:19:44
that he's afraid of watching paranormal i didn't say that you asked all right so let me know i don't want to lie on your
- 2:19:50
name harry said you were scared i didn't say that oh you son you said you was good he did say that i did not say that
- 2:19:57
so what you said fam paranormal activity came up uh-huh
- 2:20:03
charles i know that charles was explaining how the the example we use with paranormal activity they spent 15
- 2:20:09
grand to make it the dude has ex executive producer credit on every single paranormal
- 2:20:15
activity and nobody and nobody in the world knows his name as he should so then we went from paranormal activity
- 2:20:21
the conversation took a train and we landed into scary movies et cetera et cetera
- 2:20:27
you said he was yeah you
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you said you ran out the house so i said yo i come from the pentecostal background we don't watch none of the
- 2:20:41
scary movies and i don't even know how this cost me pentecostals that's the fun trust right there that's
- 2:20:46
that music i'm saying the church
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hey that's church hey y'all you back there
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scary movies and i'm like no [ __ ] and my household the negative evil energy is coming in but you no no no no no no no
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no no don't put it on the house and that ain't what you're saying too hey yo i heard you saying yo said
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somebody had the paranormal activity on i gotta be running out of the house i didn't save ran out the house i said i left the girls power walked
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quick quick little jog quick little strike and i don't remember enough of them i'm
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sure i've seen one or two of them [ __ ] so it's a different kind of scary but i mean listen
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jason is a big cocky white boy running around stabbing people wait he was white right we never seen this i never seen
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him
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and really the women don't want to talk about jason because that highlights toxicity from women what jason moms did
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to jason yeah yeah that was some foul like yeah it was what
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y'all think jason just turned out like that yeah you think will just arbitrarily smack my
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man oh wow are we going in oh i'm just saying somebody he's trying his best it's just
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trying his best to run from charles's return i'm not so no no no so then and i'm not leaving it so charles asked he
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said yo if you if that's right there don't you gotta fight me no i'm i'm in i'm in trowing charles
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charles said that i said yo i don't deal with that because in my household we talked about spirits and negative energy
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and i asked oh he talks about the universe often what do you think negativity does in the universe it
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drains you et cetera et cetera so charles said if that's the case we want to talk about
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the what's going on with your nikes and i said no he said you don't feel that negative at whatever coming from
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and i said souls of your shoes and i said care because i don't know what the hell charles is talking about well okay so
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when you think about what it takes to put those shoes together when you think about the people who are basically going through slavery
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when you think about the people who are basically losing their lives
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no i'm not going against them i'm normal think about the fact that they take 10 to 15 shoes and then they sell them over
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here for a hundred and something dollars three hundred something three hundred thousand or maybe thousands make them so
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uh uh needed that people will kill for them or you think about the fact that what people will do to gain
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ground to afford those shoes you're not saying that that ain't bad spiritual absolute absolutely and when you put it
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in app context absolutely same thing with all of the apple iphones and tesla and all the other [ __ ]
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they can't even
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what country is that where um tesla and apple and all of them are mining and [ __ ] and they said they got african boys
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over there dying at seven eight nine years old in the mines for using all the [ __ ] for the phones right away and all
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the conflict diamonds no congo it's in the congo it's in the congo yeah yeah but that's sierra leone with the conflict
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that's true i agree with that i never thought of that and take them black kids from a dunk
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what let me stop taking mcdonald's y'all y'all let madonna run the little kids up
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here but listen listen listen you know i'm joking but you know what that this whole
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conversation it kind of leads back to the idea of ownership you know when it comes to
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business true because what again yeah i like a a good nike dunk like anybody else because i've been
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inundated in like doctrine but what's wrong with the
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k-swiss or just a sneaker with no name or if i know charles is you worried
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about making sneakers and you know i know when our soul came off
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that's not true because smackdown we don't when you walk up the shorty and
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she'll get you though is she laughing you know [ __ ] [ __ ] get out of here and that's that's that's right there
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that's that's the part of the poison you know what i'm saying if my mans is making some sweaters what makes them different why am i going
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to spend yo listen man it's so crazy they make all this stuff is all wholesale they're getting the same
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materials from the same places they just slap a balenciaga on it and mark it up to you know fifteen hundred dollars yeah
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this might be a hundred dollars you're taking a shot you're weird
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you dressed
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balenciaga he didn't realize he saw that that's right now he paid for it this is mr uh black people spend too much money
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on clothes he paid for that yeah how much that's what's who costs i don't know i don't check prices oh i don't check prices i
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know where you can afford it myself the quality of getting where is i see it i like it i'm getting it you can't shame
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me into feeling guilty about it no because because because [ __ ] him i think i know the reason i remember that
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i think i know the reason one we all come from the moment we come from the mud right there wait wait wait clean it up for me
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listen don't get defensive two you got on you know what it feels like to have and then have not true and then
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you have again true so it's a part of you that's like i'm this time all this [ __ ] i couldn't
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afford but like yeah [ __ ] listen listen to me i relate to that because when i first got on everything
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that i my moms couldn't afford to buy me as a kid all the shell toes can't stuff that wasn't even in style then
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i go back to get that though i'm going back to get that 15 i want every color i want every you know he's like i was reliving my childhood that's real you
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know what i mean and i'm just being honest but now it's like i don't care if i see somebody whatever's flies fly to
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me and my eyes and my thing is when we take it back to the ownership piece using that sneaker thing as a i know
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african dude nigerian g-day he has a sneaker company in nigeria
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i'm trying to help i'm like yo these are dope i wanted you i post every time i wear these joints people are like yo
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those are dope that's what those are dude nah my son got me these so i can't even he
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got expensive but every time i wear the product people
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make a remark i try to send them to the website what have you but then when they it's like some people's if i say the
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name it's like oh i've never heard of that it's like to even react like that it's like we need validation
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more than anybody else in the room people hear a song and
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it could honestly be dope but you if you put a name on it or some unknown name on
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it when when if you lead with the unknown name they just listening with responses absolutely responses
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i've done that plenty of time that's whack yo i think that's whack because it's like we blind to the truth of what
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it is you know what i'm saying we care about the name what the name is the name not the action or not hot and so we when
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we're complaining about these things we told my earth not complaining but when we do complain as a people about
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ownership and the distribution of power and all of these things it's like we put too much weight into that like for me if
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you're gonna go to the oscar place let's go from this point of view who cares about the oscar why do we give it weight
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why don't we give more weight to the naacp award or the whatever awards
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are dedicated solely for us as black and brown people and and but in this business here's the quandary is yeah but
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if you get that that trophy or the golden globe or whatever your salary is quadruples overnight you know
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what i'm saying and that and but but and then there's a deeper question of why is that true you see what i'm saying
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by having that conversation you're also getting into the roots of segregation versus immigration that's true i was
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about to say civil rights i was about to say blame it on civil rights but i'm ready i want a serious assessment
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outline everything let's go charles let it go i don't know i want to see where we are where we are is a very
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interesting place in history period in that these young cats and i'm speaking
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specifically to the music cats they literally don't need y'all
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for nothing literally so now what's happening is the young cast is coming up they're not
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dreaming about
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if i can pull in this two million a year dolo just got to worry about taxes and
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my whole team is just me and my two mans and we grinder and we grinding and they getting paid
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and then if you got the right team you can build your your your emergency yeah
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everything outside of that why would you look at yo you know who gets doesn't get enough credit in this
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hip-hop thing of violence is tech nine yeah yo tech nine is murdering he's been
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murdering he's been 15 20 years of it's funny i walked into a conversation the other day they was talking about studio
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about who has the most followers and [ __ ] like that and so throughout tech nine is a uh a name amongst the rihanna slash
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obviously they have 200 million whatever tech9 has like 10 million followers or something like that like he's built his [ __ ]
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it's not even and that's his follow-up doesn't equal it's the idea of owning the land
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farming the land bringing in the cattle harvesting the cattle the the cattle you
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know what i'm saying selling everything produce everything and you're selling it and it's all coming from you sure
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and if we bond with each other hey you know i got some goats you know well i got the
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chickens and the eggs now we're gonna make our own
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this piece of land they can get bigger you see what i'm saying so let me ask you that in the music business i was going to ask this question earlier too
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in the music business i mean not the music in the movie business do you guys find that
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um it's that same resistance and apprehension with regards to working
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with our own yeah i'm gonna let charles answer that one yeah uh as evidenced by
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uh the writers names that are on straight out of compton [Music]
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but it was rewritten by four black people wait say that again please what straight
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out of the compton if you look at my closer oh i'm sorry if you look at the names on straight out of compton
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if you imdb and look at the writers names those are all white names but i know the black people who came behind
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those guys and did the writing i was about to say this damn nearly impossible for somebody
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that's not of the culture to write straight out of compton what that got to do with the business of
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straight out of the contract oh god it's crazy you know what i'm going to do look at that and so and and this is this is noticeable
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because they put gary grey name up there are you directly yeah but but you know this is no slight
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against anybody but we buy into everything is about narrative
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everything is a story right and when you see brothers and sisters
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saying well i need this person to get me through the door that's a narrative sure right
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even when there are examples of people going i don't i don't
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need to go through that door like my own door right it all comes down to what the narrative appeases in your ego
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because when you mention tech9 tech9 has probably gone hey this path if i got to do all the work
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i'll do all the work and those 10 million people i don't need 20 million right
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in the movie business the narrative is always want to be on the front of variety you want to be on the front of a
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hollywood reporter you want to be on the front of you know they had left here yeah and there are people who are constantly
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there are people who are still making millions of bucks on youtube right mm-hmm
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they ain't got that marketing they ain't got that whole thing in place so sure
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but they don't care that they don't have all of that stuff in place but but that's life i think that some people
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would rather in any in any arena in any form right even in in on a construction
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company so you i know plumbers that make four hundred thousand dollars a year right
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three four hundred grand easily i mean with no sweat but then you have people that will shun them
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but big up the lawyer that's chasing ambulances for 90 grand a year because the lawyer
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moniker and the doctor moniker sound better than electrician and plumber so i think the notoriety that comes along
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with being on vanity fair i could be making tech nine i remember joe in the first one on the slaughterhouse tour
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and he was like yo and this was how many years ago was it 15. yeah just 15 20 years ago and joe was like years ago it
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was like 15 12. it had to be like 15 12 years ago yo and joe was like i'm like who the hell is tech nine and he was
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like that's the point and he said yo these [ __ ] have i don't know if you remember even telling them
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like yo it's 18 wheelers these [ __ ] have a 118 wheeler that is all merch in
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that [ __ ] and then the other 18 wheeler the other 18 wheeler is bentley's they traveling
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with their cars go on tour with them so so where that shifts
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is the narrative of this of movie the movie business is that they want you as the creative to detach from
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the business we'll handle that for you you don't want to be burdened by this we got you it's a headache be placated
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you want to lift it up you want to feel like you're one of one we'll take care of it we're gonna market
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you and boost you up for your notoriety exactly but we're going to steal all the bread that's beneath that's the same thing they doing in music they do it
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immediately and like to what you were saying about the new the the acts today that can put
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it together themselves but like they don't really need these companies these labels that's when they're going to tweak the rules like all right cool
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y'all found the way around us so we're going to change the entire border to where we're going to need to still
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need us now we just created a whole new door that wasn't even there so for you to get on a playlist where you gotta come here yeah now it's playlists
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you gotta have you gotta have cohortness let me throw this here let me just say this real quick real quick
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okay so let me just throw this at you i'm gonna say three names issa rae
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lina wait justin simeone dear white people you know where they are what they all
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have in common youtube they created themselves
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in the youtube young universe to a degree that when they walked through the doors
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they had the power they could put they they could put their penis on the table and say something got you got your friends leaning away who and who
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lisa ray i don't know justin did dear white people right but
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here's what he did he did the same thing that morgan cooper did which led to his two season pickup
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for bel air he created a two-minute trailer for dear white people
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and he put it on youtube and it got so many hits that when they walked into the studio they said look
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these people are going to become the audience true is that what they did for bellaire as well yes balor's trailer was
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amazing i remember i was coming to him months before kansas city he says it i'm i'm driving across the
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bridge and i said oh i wonder what fresh prince of bel air would look like if it was a drama today and he made a
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two-minute trailer wow what's crazy is it blew up so strong that people went oh there's something
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here i'll buy into that right gotcha but what they the [ __ ] shooting the trailers before they even have a show yo somebody just somebody just did the same
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thing for mark got it for the for the martin ford think of it the exact same thing made a drama trailer a long
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form version of a deck of a demo yeah yeah of a deck right but what i was going to say is that and then to me it's
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there's like this deeper thing even with like me and charles we've become close friends over this whole journey but
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i did have people on my side on my quote-unquote team like i don't know if you want to work with
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him no he is great i know that [ __ ] [ __ ]
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talking about but i'm like that's what i'm saying that's how they dissuade us from working but i'm like yo but
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first of all he's an incredible artist i think the guy's a genius and we broke bread together around our
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kids and all that there's that part of it but here's this thing that we're trying to do
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that offers ownership to both so why would you
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i was only from that i was also called a tyrant by one of the biggest agencies in this town
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in in in l.a but you seem that way you know you don't seem like you comply
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yeah you don't say you don't seem like i'm performing but here's the thing look at it like it's labeled it doesn't look
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or you're aggressive or whatever the case may be wait wait hold on follow in the flow of the conversation
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because i know it's probably going to come up but stick with what you just said what were we talking about earlier today
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when people were talking about you know the will chris rock and things like that what was the counter
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that it was mental health issues but also but well hold on talking about
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the well let's compare right right tom cruise right tom cruise having that meltdown
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that you can find the audio of on youtube or mission impossible christian
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christian christian right i mean i i can go on and give you a
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little sister it's a bunch mel gibson telling his wife that nine n words are going to show up at his at her door i
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hope you'll get raped by pacquiao talking now you know what i'm saying sounds like we're not allowed to make mistakes
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people don't get it if you keep the narrative a certain way you also have to understand that you've
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been trained to accept narrative
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is about validation my whole thing is about us working together the sad part of american
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history and history in general is that black people have to take care of our tribe but even with what you guys have
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built here the tribe has nothing to do with race but that's a unique thing
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and it's a normal thing that's exciting moving forward in the future my kids i'm pretty sure your kids their friend
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groups don't they don't even look at race the way we do we do they don't carry that weight but in the heaviness of
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like making real moves in in terms of business and ownership and this that and the other and when you get into the
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machine and you realize oh this whole thing is really really rigged in a legislative way
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not just you know you gotta learn hollywood music it's like they got laws there you know what i'm saying it that's
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that will rattle your mind and so i say this to the people who who may not be of color parks aside because he's black
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hey surprise no one knew i'm white you just understand open-minded but i'm just saying
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respectfully you know we're just trying to get our tribe together you know to figure out
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how to work together as a unit because ultimately that's what it's all about you know what i'm saying it's all it's
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about quote-unquote best man or woman for the job and and and um inclusion and
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things of that nature but you know if if i don't know me how can i include you and what i'm doing so what i'm saying
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here's one of the things that i got called the tyrant about oh you did some [ __ ] let me hear you
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when we were looking for women for a project
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everybody kept saying oh you know we have to find someone who can handle this a dp for example that has the experience
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blah blah blah blah blah and i was pushing for dps of color of course women right they would go yeah but you know
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and i would go hold on a second explain to me was this person that you're telling me who has experience
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were they born with it how did they get to being this experienced person why are we not taking
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these shots on these people right
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why are we not allowing them to fail the same way the guy who just won an academy award for best cinematography has
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probably failed a bunch of times who was our dp on our film the devil you know we had a five foot two
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italian woman who was six months pregnant and killed it right
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because the narrative the sec it's not about race it's about power
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and the second people understand that you can take power away from them
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because now that we're in the digital age sean baker made tangerine on his iphones
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matthew cherry made a movie called nine rides on iphones but here's what they know is stuck in your brain
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if i don't do it like them i won't get noticed so they sell you the notoriety exactly
- 2:43:11
and the fame as opposed to because a lot of people the notoriety and the fame is worth more
- 2:43:17
than the money right so the guy who's directing who directed doctor strange the sequel which is like
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a 300 million dollar movie he came from a 325 000 movie called evil dead john carpenter came from a 60 000 movie
- 2:43:31
called um dark star right john sales who's considered one of
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the best writers in the business did a movie called the secaucus seven sixty thousand dollars
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and then they go on because the path says
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you can make your own path right you talk about friday friday costs a million bucks the reason gary gray is
- 2:43:55
such a dope dude he put his own money back his check he put it back into the
- 2:44:01
movie so he could have more 35 millimeter footage right what what is very simple
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is they have fooled us and when i say they i'm just talking about the people who
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have the highest the power the power yeah they have fooled us into thinking you cannot toil the land until you use
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their tools you need them yo get that man yeah yo
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get underneath some pop this guy's good man no i knew looking at
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it so you make me so sick depressed me you make me sick no you make me sick because you and corey argue with me
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about the same [ __ ] all the time you [ __ ] i feel like stabbing you yo
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i don't i don't i don't have his his his uh i don't have his what's the name voice
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you just come in screaming cause your girl is white like he's actually that's not true that's has nothing the joke it's a joke
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no
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is right but i was going to interrupt him and say how can it be about power and not be about race
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because eventually you ready for that now i'm listening
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they bring them in they bring us in and they go hey you want to be on this board
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and the [ __ ] oh stop it cause them [ __ ] do it yeah and then [ __ ] do it yeah yeah but that falls in line that's
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in lieu of the smoke and mirror [ __ ] that we talking about but it's but but when us if i can go get one of ours to
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go sit here and attract ours and have him not aware of the actual power
- 2:45:40
structure who says he's not aware who says he's not aware you put that variable in there okay he could be
- 2:45:46
wearing variables he's aware right i'm talking i'm talking to you so let's go with that you're right
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he's aware and don't have the nuts to actually try to change the line in the sand so the same thing applies listen
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they might have no madness hold on you said what if you put someone
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in that position and the thing is if that person doesn't have those qualities they ain't qualified for that position
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and they're not going to stay and they're not going to keep you there and this is about us but you're in the position because somebody put you there
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no no no no no no i'm saying y'all want to skip that part and i won't no let's not skip it again that's why i said
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earlier the roots are in segregation and integration because when we were segregated we had
- 2:46:28
more what everything we had more jobs everything we had more doctors we
- 2:46:34
had more groceries because guess what and they saw the money that was being created and they went hold on
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they are where the money is let them come eat at our [ __ ] back door no our back door not even the front door we're
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gonna feed them at our back door and they're gonna run to validate themselves they're going to come eat at our back
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door instead of saying that they don't really know just your future movies
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they can't stop us no more what charles said earlier about technology they can't stop us we're
- 2:47:14
trying to bring a wave and we're trying to bring and that's why i always use especially for my culture
- 2:47:21
obviously but just the music business in terms of the younger generation the ingenuity
- 2:47:27
the entrepreneurship entrepreneurial ship you know that these young kids are not
- 2:47:33
blocked in their minds with the old way of thinking right and they have the tools but that comes from somewhere else
- 2:47:39
they have the tools that just why can't we do it like that they say necessity question every whole invention well how
- 2:47:45
do we get it out this isn't that and there's a platform for that and i'm i'm saying something deeper it's like we're gonna get to a point where it's
- 2:47:51
just like and we already see it right it's happening with the puffs and the jays and everybody that you mentioned
- 2:47:56
but who owns soundcloud who owns tunecore who actually owns these that's next
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that's what i'm saying it's progression it's the progression and that's what i'm saying so to joe's point when he said yo
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they take you and they put you in a room right they do but that person that's in that room
- 2:48:16
is learning information that we didn't once have and that's the benefit of one of us
- 2:48:24
being in the room and now we're soaking up the information because that's the only thing that they could keep from us
- 2:48:29
before yeah no no here's the biggest let me finish it here's a bigger problem hold on hold on we have it
- 2:48:35
we have it we just don't you know this you know the best place to hide a book
- 2:48:41
how to a message you mean in the book how to book no in the library in the bookshelf
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right so most of the stuff that i learned i didn't go to film school i went to the
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library me too people have all the information it's there
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yo y'all know about the library of this podcast today my [ __ ] get your [ __ ] no what happens is
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the what he's saying with the library the information is there
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we choose not to seek it because we too busy on instagram and we're too busy buying nikes and we
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too busy doing all of these other things that are distracting us from greatness in fact but in doing that but in doing
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that we blame them for us not having greatness when it's right at your [ __ ]
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fingertips we'll blame them because that's the scapegoat for not having greatness instead of going out to look instead of getting it on our [ __ ] own
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we say yo we can't get it because they won't give it to us we're chopping our way through the forest so it's like
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who owns instagram who owns twitter we know who owns facebook
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this company swallows that company is capitalism at its finest right but when
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do we you know invest into us why is not when robert johnson still
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owned bet why wasn't every thing black coming through that
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that that structure what why segregation and integration it's the same thing no but i'm just
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saying this out loud in terms of the for the future generations because in 10 years it's going to flip you know
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there's a there's a 15 year old kid right now that is studying somebody like technon or like you mentioned jade or or
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barry gordy or whoever they they taking all the information because you you can't say
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the information ain't there because we're in the information age we're literally in the pit of it like everything is
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right there available excuses moot now so right ex and that's
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what do you mean yeah you just being a contrarian right now well that's who i am at my core but
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that's not what i'm doing right now the information age i find
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could make it a lot more difficult to find information that's better because whatever your belief is you can find
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information to support it in the information i was actually just thinking about this the other day when i was reading
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something in that apple news just whatever read the news you could find i got it yeah that make
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like arguing with idiots and the idiot to go google something idiotic
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just being in this moment that's never happened like right that's like journalism and not not talking about
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y'all but just journalists just one of the best rappers
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you looked it up
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that's the first thing to call me no [ __ ] journalist no but i'm just saying like it used to
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be they had a multi-billion dollar corporations that would vet the
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information that they were going to spew encyclopedias you couldn't just say this you had to go to this source and get
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that you had to make sure that this was spot on because you're going on the nightly
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news or whatever and now it's like anywhere from anybody right now elizabeth holmes oh not only that they
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had they also would make sure whatever information going out there is information they want to go out
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exactly right like let's still do that today yeah we're not going to let we still do that to the secrets
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we're not letting that out still do that i'm speaking to joe's point about the information age it's there there's still
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no excuse because it's there it's there everyone you buy a camera there's a manual in the box that teaches you how to work the camera correct even if one
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of those people take the camera out the box and just start fidgeting with it yo there's a whole ass manual right there
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read it but read it that's the talk i had about kids instead of buying that camera you could
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jump online to see if that camera is even worth buying versus three or four other comparable cameras that's my point
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and you got a dick you might have to dig deeper but it is what it is and then there's no excuse and then excuse me and
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then hold on and then if you have a mind like like charles murray you know what i mean
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and and then me and him pair up and then two is better than one and we start throwing around ideas now what then we
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get you in the room you know what i'm saying then we get you in the room it's like yo this thing really starts to come together i'm coming to the writing room
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[ __ ] see what the [ __ ] is going on we trying to bring that
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up in here the entrepreneurial spirit that is in the young part of the music
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business to the film and television game that's what we're trying to do you know what i'm saying so we're out there and
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we can walk and true gum at the same time we need a cat that has a seat at their table
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while we building our own table simultaneously we can do two things at once you like to say that all the time
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two things and that's the truth because you know that's how yo we need somebody yo go get a job work there learn look at lebron
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dawg yup you know what i'm saying he put his squad on because it was just like yo go shadow this agent go go learn the
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business first go learn this how they do this learn the inner workings bring it back yo we gonna put our own thing
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together that's right but the best part about what you're saying is it's different when someone like
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lebron is sending those guys through a door then when they're plucking someone out
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of a pile right that's true true that's true and it's funny but
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to most them through the door and it's fun to look out the [ __ ] look at the [ __ ] lebron didn't care about too
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like speaker yo this is just you talking about dark you could tell i'm talking about a bunch of [ __ ] i won't say
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because smacking is back but yeah there's a few [ __ ] he didn't really care for her
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he let them just go ahead to your earlier point though wasn't a smack
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either technically they think it was he think was fake it was it was it was not it was closed do
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you think it was fair it wasn't it was fingers it wasn't fake fingers it was i was like
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to you to your earlier point about information is how i know you're right because around christmas time right i found this instagram page
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and this is a little white boy and he found a job so i i give it up to [ __ ] that just create content like
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that but he was showcasing perfumes and colognes and letting people know why they should
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or shouldn't purchase them and i was so amazed by this because how the [ __ ] do you do that with a scent
- 2:55:23
yeah this [ __ ] said yo baccarat and you can get this dude with it smells good
- 2:55:31
mad women hit me to tell me about this dude and in my head i'm saying but you don't know how anything smell
- 2:55:38
don't don't you have to smell this right and then a month later we had to come in here and talk about a new tv that was
- 2:55:44
coming out with you you could smell you could put lick but i'm just disgusting yo it's disgusting it is
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um y'all are really deciding yo back to y'all is so depressing you do
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youtube y'all [ __ ] start talking too much real [ __ ] like how's this shut up it's uplifting it's like
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enlightenment she will have smacked the [ __ ] or not let's get back to ignorance oh my god
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that's what i said i just wanna talk
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i have massive respect for both of those uh individuals and um you know
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you know things happen sometimes it just happened on the one of the biggest stages in the world
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you know what i'm saying and you can't you can't predict human behavior so i just you know i wish them both the best
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and i i'm confident that they'll work that out behind the scenes thoughts
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i ain't really mean for you to answer you're my guy so i wouldn't put you in that spot but no i'm you know we're here to talk and
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that's why we're depressing [Laughter]
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charles where you from man gary indiana okay oh that's why you're [ __ ] depressed the murder capital in america
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for genius no wonder you wrote some films jackson's and the murder captains were pretty good
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they're pretty good that's pretty good and charles murray that little tiny ass house that
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jackson's was in man if you fill up your gas tank right now that's a pair of sneakers ice trying
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to paint me as a [ __ ] that uh idolizes other cultures by my own you told me i love the suit because it's
- 2:57:31
italian galante whatever the [ __ ] that [ __ ] delante
- 2:57:42
someone in the comments said what are those they asked a question no no not the person you responded to no no three that was three he said what are those
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are those wallabies no broke [ __ ] those are bottega shots three wait
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shout out to them shout out to three wiley's is the most comfortable joint right here not the joke you like winning
- 2:58:01
the hard ass yeah you [ __ ] let ghost face tell you anything stop it you don't like watches
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yeah i sound like wally's if botega made them that does not mean that i thought they were the most hey all these little
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options out there josephine's the most comfortable
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you don't want to get into a fight wearing a pair of wallies because you're
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because you slide no around i get that i know there's nobody i wore wally's to the proms
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like i wasn't putting them on for my day today [ __ ] i went from shaolin you know next next award show i go to i'm wearing
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wily's and i'm gonna show you up they ain't letting you in there you put some wallabies on and try to
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show up there um damn i feel like there's so much i feel like there's some other [ __ ] i
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needed to ask oh but i'll ask him off air in private i don't remember right now charles is the wild card you you
- 2:59:00
need to go you don't need the pod no more he's got a great pod voice man yeah as i told you great heart and brain
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charles is my inner monologue but when you said that i knew who he was
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so i didn't get it but if he's that then we have issues in here
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all right so the movie is out now yep yep um only in amc theaters and then
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we'll you know we'll be coming to streamers uh soon after that um
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nigga's playing with us they playing with us they better not be playing
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[Laughter] what
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yeah now we getting this to the streamers god damn it yeah we need to see michael early be a good guy for a
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change michael illy the legend glenn turman vanessa bell callaway will catlett is
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nasty nasty something he's a problem um vaughn like the the cast is crazy my
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wife is in it yeah um my wife and my daughter co-wrote a song that's in it oh man that's dope yeah man
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it's dope holy [ __ ] yeah two songs actually but it's it's just really dope man and i'm i'm just i i've been
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calling it an experience it's not a film you know because when you see this joint i mean
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i watch it
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because the black films ain't really bad but see the thing is but then charles
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can speak to this better than i can but like like it's like we don't see films like this with us in it but we see
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the majority culture get to make films like this and that's what was so exciting about to
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me about this whole endeavor you know what i mean and i think that's part of the reason why
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um we got so many no's but you know for all the creators out there you keep pressing you know because all you need
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is that one yes i was gonna ask you that yeah and then and when we going where we're trying to get to is we create the yes
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you understand what i'm saying the numbers we don't have to go nowhere yo yo joe
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this that and the other and we put it together and if we have a proper business model like i said nah go get
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that job go sit at the table learn the system soak it up so we know how to cut the
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right corners so you know how to implement it and come back to us exactly are you know what i'm saying are
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you going to see i am legend too i would because i love that i am legend in the first movie the first course okay
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that was dope can't trip this guy up and lastly
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last lastly oh sorry i didn't mean to do it you meant to do that you got the arrow on there
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and and lastly i want to be an extra in one of these [ __ ] film films
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when i watch these films now i watch the extras if i could if i could have done that yo
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joe you you you you're actually actually part of the coaching now like you could you could play a role you could be joe
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listen what i'm saying you gotta challenge me what you're saying
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he'll be hap that'll be triggering right he'll have ptsd but he can't remember he's not gonna be
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able to remember his lines we know that yes he could not joe joe what no he could he could remember
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rhymes lines is different because the other person talking to you might change it up too and then you got to be present
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to do this well then the director could scream the lines from behind the camera and i'll say that's and see that's the lazy approach
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you
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charles murray the devil marry the devil you know outright this second let's support that let's get that
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to the streamers let's get it everywhere it needs to be michael early sorry you couldn't be here shout out to you
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yeah man
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[Applause]
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no you're just going to love my jeep oh love appreciate you you look sharp go kill yourself
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you know it no doubt you know it hey charles man i could be extra i'm telling
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you i could do it i could do that and we should kick it cause i'ma write a sick demented twisted type of mystery
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murder movie too one day and you're gonna be like oh [ __ ] that's that pod [ __ ] that was just running his mouth about nothing
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like honestly huh talking about being extra how come i can't just give you a role
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i can do it i can do it see finally some support because when i went and phil uh went for the audition for daredevil i came back
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here they all laughed at me but i was taking acting classes i was like really yeah [ __ ] laughed at me took it
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seriously yeah nah i'm gonna do that [ __ ] one day i'm gonna listen that's quality of life for me man how many lives could you live
- 3:04:27
in the one that you get yo and i want to do it see you heard what your man said that's how you that's how you do it but
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og really loves me man exactly he said why are you taking acting classes come talk to him charles we're going to get him juice
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coming together i'm going to go out yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you gonna find me though
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he said i think gary hey [Applause]
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ladies and gentlemen the amazing omar s charles murray thank you
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go check that yes go check that yeah i might watch it tonight man i only haven't seen it because i'm waiting on
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baby girl to get back so we can watch it together and play i want to watch it with my i mean my little streaming link didn't work man
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i'm about to re-up yo shout out to uh charles murray and omar episode i feel like we could pop with them for
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no lie six hours
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he got it because he got work to do no i'm talking about he's ready to go until he'll go in yeah yeah yeah yeah all right i'm two dudes listen brunch at
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haven with omar epps is different like i was about to ask him what he thinks everyone's role is in the
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simulation currently i was about to send him no i know i know what get him going here
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now what you said when you said once you get him started he's going to keep going you said i slept i slept then
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he kept going i slept no he kept going he kept going but it was cool so yeah i didn't really notice he kicks it he
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kicks it like the knives like he kicks it like he's one of us i know but i know him from juice truth
- 3:06:02
when you're talking to these people in person like during in our relationship i'm learning about you in real time so
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when he say oh [ __ ] your son over there i'm coming to kick it i'm bringing a present like it's like [ __ ]
- 3:06:13
oh that's dope about you i didn't know and then when you get to talk about hip-hop oh [ __ ] i know he was ahead i
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mean he was going to do his hip-hop [ __ ] oh it makes sense juice the roll park they didn't have no money so they wasn't
- 3:06:24
casting junior casting hip-hop [ __ ] like it made it makes sense though but uh
- 3:06:30
that was great shout out to them that no that was that was great and in this oscar week word
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what a great conversation at absolutely like wow and with a great movie that's dropping ish we not the same and you
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like what you said you had 30 sleepers on your phone no like just in this one area just in this one area like
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i think your respect level for me should should rise it's already there no look at you trying beef look at you
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trying beef it's already there yeah you said that nah i just took i just took your little ammo away
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yeah yeah yeah yeah the fans think you know how to deal with me nah i slept now
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the fans think it's not a difference
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all right yo man stay safe nigga's smacking his back
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no omar cleared it up it's slapping yeah that was a slap slap slapping his back
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slapping his way i never really put that in perspective but slapping his that changes everything kind of
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you [ __ ] keep your opinion slipping within your pockets it's just a difference in the smack on
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the slot omar said one had was all fingers yeah well if it's all right
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don't try to fix it
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that's one of the greatest little athletes don't try to take time don't do that yo
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as somebody that's just brought the random girl in to say a line in a song and she always [ __ ] it up like that's
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important it takes a while to get that mad long to get there i used to hate that that was like one of my main rules the
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engineer do not bring the girl that you're [ __ ] to [ __ ] do the ad-lib it's never gonna work it's never gonna
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work hater just hate her yes parked i wanna bring the girl i'm [ __ ] in the booth she wants to go
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[Laughter] no she can't
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and she can't get uh how many takes the right system will turn a role player
- 3:08:30
so stupid what loser said that yo keep us in your prayers man honestly if you
- 3:08:36
listen to this pod you know i got to be in your prayers yo yo please pray for me
- 3:08:43
place on the plateau is where everybody goes guys out hunting oh yeah will
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no don't let us do a review the lyrics section guys out hunting is what you call it bro
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y'all chill man all right man until the next time be careful be aware be alert be present in
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all that you do life is a series of moments and moments pass so let's make this one last as if it's all that we have
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see you next time peace audio cerebederci hasta
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lastly the baddies are insecure they're stagnant women want to travel when they're closed-minded women want you to
- 3:09:25
teach them things grab an advil enjoy your headache we'll be back same time same place shadow the
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vibe hey [Music]
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rest in peace rest in peace press the peace park sparks oh [ __ ] my bad i mean
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it ain't over two it's over god damn in his seconds on the court tyler hawkins drummer from the foo fighters rest in peace there we go rest in peace we'll
- 3:09:52
get details soon thoughts prayers condolences to his family and shout out to will man we love you i think i speak
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for enough of us we all love you well hey we love chris suman we love the family chris we love you as
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well man angela chris don't really appear to need therapy like will but love for everybody
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