Everybody Has A Job feat. Lloyd Banks
Joe Budden Podcast Episode 550, “Everybody Has A Job feat. Lloyd Banks,” released July 14, 2022. Gatekeepers in Hip Hop have always existed, and Conway the Machine accuses Funkmaster Flex of being one of them. First, the crew discusses the beef between the emcee and legendary DJ (12:20) and Cardi B's latest beef with The Shade Room (34:33). Next, Mario received backlash for working with Tory Lanez(1:17:31), and the guys debate if Ne-Yo was "clout chasing" (1:31:05) and Lloyd Banks joins the pod (1:54:29). Full transcript and searchable timestamps below.

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Joe Budden Podcast Ep. 550 Transcript
Full transcript of Everybody Has A Job feat. Lloyd Banks (3:00:10 long). Search it, or click any timestamp to jump to that moment.
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so now what were you saying my brother I just I complimented you on your Shades
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thank you I appreciate it was it nice I asked what kind they were and then I said I I want to I have to start getting
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into Shades now Parkside Park said why naturally I don't wear glasses anymore
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[Music] so that don't say why you have to get in the shades oh no no cause now I can
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see before before I could never get into sheets why because I wore glasses get prescription yeah no no no no no no no
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no no no I'm not doing all that for every pair of Shades no thank you
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um so now you're going to get a whole Fleet of Shades yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I'm gonna start you know get
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my little Shades game up gotcha are you mad at you play you know
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nothing crazy a little pet hair in there any side effect from the eyes yet nah I
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don't even use the um to drop [ __ ] no I don't have dry eye or anything um Vision great nighttime driving great
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about me I can't get it oh damn this is that bad sheesh
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tried to get a couple years ago they told me my vision was too bad
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I'm glad I got it life's changing now I heard what were you saying prior to your
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eye conversation no I wasn't saying nothing else what y'all doing today you good Parks yeah I'm feeling I feel well
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I'm straight how you doing Joe you good I'll be good after I get an answer to myself
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that I asked you I answered I said I wasn't saying that notes that's the answer to the question you
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said Joe is a fashion no I said I wasn't saying anything else I remember something he was saying something about
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fashion I think right yeah oh I might be getting into fashion now or something maybe we'll see you got a style no
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I don't make that much yet oh probably find an affordable stylist
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that'll work within your means no he didn't say that oh pardon me it's not what he said he definitely said that
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no it's definitely not what he said it was implied at least it wasn't even implied can you wear any color that you want tomorrow
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yeah outside on a nice beautiful hot day long as it's not solid gray shorts or
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sweatpants solid gray why might that be I just said
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are you allergic to solid gray yeah fleece freak you out oh okay yeah gotcha
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gotcha which I'm allergic to here the [ __ ] that come with that I'm sure they make polyester it's not about the
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material [ __ ] it's not about the material comes with wearing solid gray sweat you
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would have to ask ice I don't know I'm not wearing solid gray that's why she got some splash of color in it why
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[ __ ] you're not tough we don't know why we don't have that we're having Alex you good good Alex what happened why you
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can't wear gray I'm wearing gray now my G solid gray why you can't wear the solid gray I don't like solid gray oh
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that's last season that's the only color you don't like right yes only colors the whole spectacle on yourself man go and
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tell ain't nothing to tell man you know we got a little combo yeah don't go in don't go out wearing that uh
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um it's the same thing when I say don't go out with that so it's respect control that's control it's controlled it's
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control [ __ ] admitted to the control oh what you want me to lie no no wait so you
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tell her too not to wear certain things so it's only right that she should be able to say to you yeah what color she can't wear it's not colors yeah she got
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some [ __ ] that's just don't go outside in that
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same thing she told me yo you you can wear this and this as long as I'm with you when she put your clothes out like
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first day of school well what why she came her body her
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clothes you right y'all seen each other fit check in the morning her body her choice
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in front of the mirror you gotta stand in front of the mirror like you approved yeah
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distrust Secrets aside I trust you to do what I say I trust you to do what you
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say
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but what you think is gonna happen if you step out in Gray shorts I don't know women just some women don't like yeah
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listen whatever you think you're about to she thinks you got a block Shaker on her hand
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oh hey Alex [Music]
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what an imagination she has oh [ __ ]
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she said well I should be going that [ __ ] about to get foggy out when the gray shorts left out I just don't go
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outside we good Best Buy yeah Apple Store Burlington
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yo chill out Alex go relax outside
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[Laughter]
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uh band restriction band is the funniest thing in the world yo do you have those
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same like restrictions you two you're married no
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I said no [ __ ] you think
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he wanna hear it how about you Joe you safe I don't even know I've never even
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approached this topic and anytime it said I think it's a joke
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imagine somebody stopping me from wearing the extra fitties to the strip clubs
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in mine it's a little too thick now go in there
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with some pajama pants straight from the Nordstroms Rack you [ __ ] me oh man oh he's just good all right
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get ready y'all ready Paul what's up I'm ready to pop man I ain't spoke to you bro y'all ain't yeah all right I'm good
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I'm good now everybody had a good weekend I'm good yeah I had fun everybody had a great weekend
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see already that's boring like a podcast full of dudes they had a great weekend
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my weekend nobody wants to hear from the prude friend the whole girl hey what you did last
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weekend [ __ ]
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I went to the nude beach I swear to God
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right out there in the rockaways no no wonder you can wear gray shorts I've got some other inhibitions all right we kept
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our clothes on oh but you know I mean we had a good time
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but nudity was uh accepted there nah they should have kept you all out wait what'd you ask me I said you always just
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voy yours uh no we were hanging out like I said everyone wasn't naked
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a lot of naked people some pretty ones some pretty ones I mean the thing with the nude beach is you get the good and
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the bad but everyone's beautiful in their own way good point that's a great keep and a lot of times it's more to
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yeah yeah yeah yeah who do you think was more scared of
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y'all getting nude at the nude beach you or her neither of us are scared we went with another couple so that
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would have been totally weird wait wait the advertiser sharing couple different couple not the [ __ ] that ate your
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pancakes
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yeah that's a little different that's that's a white [ __ ]
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I'm good uh my friends they were going anyway so do you want to come friends don't put it off for your friends
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something was up with you when you was playing with your beard from earlier my friends did they have to twist your
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arm no not really not really it was a good time
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I'm gonna think you just trying to look at my girl nah boy you already didn't let her out and anything that we might
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find appealing that's true so so the odds of her getting butterscotch are
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very very oh my God yo I'm with you so Parts called you up and said yeah
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our clothes on we're just gonna go hang out yo y'all every piece
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no not for me you wouldn't go with us to a newbie because you think we would be looking at your girl I'm gonna talk
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about his question if I'm if I'm going to the new beach I'm gonna partake I'm not going to just [ __ ] go and partake
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in what nudity yeah you [ __ ] oh that's what you're saying okay that's what I'm saying
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yeah I'm not going you've been to the newbies exhibitionist were in Jamaica
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[ __ ] here no no oh
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yeah I never did that I ain't letting your color
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you talk about I'm lost no henism is old [ __ ] thank you before
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foreign
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so who was taller out of you or your friend had went I'm taller
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well you have a bigger foot out of you too no
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yo bro let's see how it's gonna go but if your friend wanted all y'all to
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get new to the new beach what would you have said no it's weird I don't want to see your wife yo y'all I don't want to
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see his wife naked but you went to the new very big difference it's a very big difference
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between strangers friend's wife that we hang out frequently naked yes that's kind of what
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I was saying that's the difference don't ask her don't invite me with you and your girl to the new beach I guess don't
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ask me straight don't ask me yo like traditionalists
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I don't know how do I try to ask me real quick be what I would do don't turn
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that whole [ __ ] y'all [ __ ] up y'all got some real 50s and 60s starts
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no you can't look at her okay oh man but that is what the new Beach is
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for yeah so if you go there you go whatever come on uh
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absolutely [Music] [Applause] [Laughter] [Music]
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[Applause] yeah yeah it could be one could be zero
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microphone check one two what is this welcome to episode 550 of the Joe Budden
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podcast I'm your humble gracious grateful and highly favored hosts here with a few of my nearest and dearest
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Parks is here this is here ice is here or he's here young boys in the back y'all good yeah your weekend was all
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right yes sir good glad to hear it glad you could be here with us today how about you gentlemen it's great pretty
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good man pretty good glad to be here like you said all right where would you like to begin we'll get right to it oh
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you got for us York and [ __ ] my opinion man y'all got to get them old [ __ ] about the way like flexing them [ __ ]
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man y'all man them Gatekeepers that that y'all got up there man that's that's trying to dictate like who who you know
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what I'm saying like just Conway from Griselda [ __ ] because if I needed y'all [ __ ] y'all [ __ ] are these fake
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stifle in my group y'all don't play my [ __ ] you got on Wendy Williams Show [ __ ] on prime time TV [ __ ] and like
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say it what you said Flex you every change you get you you said that you got to stand all night
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which you didn't like [ __ ] on us like I want to make that clear
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those you know what I'm saying so what I told you when I saying like oh [ __ ] he said nothing wrong [ __ ] that's that
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ain't his motion you don't listen to that [ __ ] but it's like what do you listen to then
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bruh it's clear what you listen to you want to take writer [ __ ] who
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letting popular in the club and you know that's what y'all all right
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to which Flex has responded he says so let's begin you're managed by
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Roc Nation Jay-Z signed to Shady Records Eminem distributed by Interscope Records major label you and your team have had a
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feature from Jay-z Eminem Lil Wayne J Cole Jadakiss Travis Scott French Montana and more weren't you on Kanye's
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donde album I'm gonna give you advice uh the advice that Paul Rosenberg should have gave you your 40 plus bars rapper
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sorry Lyricist that has had every resource possible if you are not happy with your career as of today with all
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those co-signs I think you have peaked my guy what do you think you're only going to take this as disrespect because
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truth might be a bit much for you sign Grandpa wheelchair Bandit warm milk
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General I might need a podcast what do y'all think okay that's the gist of their back and forth I'm here to ask you
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gentlemen where you guys stand on this I mean I'd like to expecting support from
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major label making underground hip-hop or major uh radio stations making underground hip-hop is
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unrealistic expectations all right so you're on flexi no I don't like the way that he responded though
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I love the way he responded wait let Park finish getting this [ __ ] off right because what does that have to do with his point of you not playing my music
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has nothing to do with the point that's true that whatsoever it need at no point in Conway's rant was he talking about
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being bitter or unhappy or unsuccessful or any of the things that Flex is alluding to here he was talking about not getting he played well he did say
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you're stifling my growth which is no he said if I needed you correct you would
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be stifling my growth I don't really need you because I'm still moving around but if I needed you or your co-signed
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then you would be stifling me then what would be the point of the entire Conway rant if you don't need flicks and he's not
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stifling anything then why rant and why bring that up I'm only saying I think that's what Flex is responding to but go
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ahead I mean you still want to hear your music if you think your music is
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um relevant you would still want to hear your music on one of the biggest hip-hop stages in the world which is New York City were you done uh no I have more to
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ask I'm sorry go ahead well I think that what he mentioned with the uh sus one thing sus one went on Wendy Williams from what I understand he said that
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Conway is in his top five rappers lyricists whatever it is so I think that's kind of his beef and I
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don't know what he was referring to Funk flux saying but if he put him in a similar type of list it's like yo if you
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love my [ __ ] that much why don't you ever play it I I think that particular type of
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hip-hop might have passed us like I think if they would have came out in the early 2000s Griselda would have been in
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the tops of a lot of people's [ __ ] I just think that that particular Roselle is in the tops of a lot of people [ __ ]
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no I know I'm just saying like mainstream hip-hop you get what I'm saying like I think that that's for Our
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Generation we because he saw he even mentions bars like bars rappers and he puts it in quotes meaning like
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that's not necessarily what [ __ ] want to hear today we like that because we like rappers but
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the young kids ain't necessarily listening to that [ __ ] I Don't Like Rappers but I know what
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you're saying yeah like you know what I mean like Jokers that get busy and ice um I agree with what you're saying ish I
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think that's why he's telling him yo you're a bars rapper that's not the sound so you're on whose side here Conway
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I see both of their points Flex is paid by the radio station the play was hot they not necessarily what the mainstream
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want to hear today you get what I'm saying so I can't play y'all [ __ ] I might think that most def is hot that don't mean I'm gonna play it
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on the radio all right basically fam y'all are underground sound even if it's a popular underground
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sound you're an underground sound just like you were just saying anything played on the radio is coming from Up
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above you know what I'm saying like that y'all these DJs don't choose what they playing on these shows right I think
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that's a cop out too it's the truth it's a cop-out though it's still the truth but not only that wiggle room
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I could play what I want to play and I don't like that I'm not playing it I was just gonna say not for nothing this well
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well it's not really a rate y'all don't make radio records y'all don't make Club records Flex is
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DJing in the club I'm not gonna play it there Flex his DJing on the radio you don't make the music for this
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listen I got a demo I gotta feed I got they don't if they don't want to hear it what you want me to do
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you have y'all have a great fan base a loyal dedicated fan base but it's an
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underground fan base this is not an underground platform I agree that's just really what it all boils down to you're
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you're you want you you saying I don't I don't need this cosine I don't need this so why you care
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flex play it or not then and why you single now Flex because he's him see I don't like you
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know he's him I don't like that but you know Flex is him I don't like that you want bombs dropped on your record you
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that's what you want I don't like that because there's nothing wrong with what Conway is saying until you start singling out one person
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and that just opens the doors for a whole new conversation I wouldn't call Flex a gatekeeper by any standard
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substandard explain it to me when Flex drops bombs on your [ __ ] it
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may it means something it's not a gatekeeper not today man they're they're a man entry entry ways into music
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outside of Funk Master Flex I have these kids and to be frank with you Flex ain't the
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ground level and has never been the ground level entry way for uh new
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rappers every new rapper signed knew that you wasn't just running the flex to get your
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[ __ ] played but they're not necessarily new now they also they in the game now
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like the game is the game and everybody got a job to do like it was for a couple
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seconds where I took my a record I was trying to work to people that I thought I had a relationship with after pump it
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up and they didn't play it and I got mad there's a few times that that happened until you learned
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everybody's doing a job right everybody's got something to do like I said they don't make radio
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records they don't attempt to make radio records true or so rare they don't really make
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courses often right they don't attempt to make a chorus outside of their Zone
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it's almost saying he don't play it now I ain't
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gonna judge him because when we was coming up we used to say the same [ __ ] yo get your
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old [ __ ] off the radio cause y'all 50 years old y'all just out of touch y'all
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not listening to what we listening to you y'all ain't on the radio and get in your car and then go play all that [ __ ] y'all go turn Diana Ross on
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that's what we used to say so I understand the sentiment but I'm not with singling out just one person that
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don't have so much power over your career in the first place to me well I think it was two two people him and such
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one but and if neither one of them are Gatekeepers yeah correct me if I'm wrong I could be wrong here
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didn't uh he did Flex freestyles right he did yeah he did the and that's where
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something stems from because Flex was making some silly ass face while he was rhyming yeah okay because I'm saying you
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calling him a gatekeeper and this that everybody can't go up there and sit there and and freestyle for Flex true I
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think the the beef that at least the internet has made out of it I can't speak on if Conway or any of them have
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made out of it is he Flex will be up there going crazy for whoever
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no but that's not true
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when they were up there he was kind of just stone-faced sitting there like not even bopping his head type [ __ ] that's
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what people observers have said oh that contradicts you saying you don't
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care like I don't need this I don't need Flex if you if I needed you you would be holding me back like you mad because I'm not
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making faces and and going nuts during your freestyle but his faces was kind of
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you've seen flexible absolutely crazy way lesser bars bam I took ours up there
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and ours was killing [ __ ] and flex was just sitting there for a minute and I'm like afterwards he was like yo he ain't
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released I said so what you did your [ __ ] and when they go out they gonna see it right you don't need him to to to go
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crazy on it I was talking about in terms of yeah it was uh Alice could find it it was uh
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a face that shouldn't have been made while anybody's rapping good or not gotcha like it was so if you're from on
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your platform I was invited to be here like respect me while I'm rapping he was
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talking to his man he was looking off to the side almost like like it was it was some of that I was talking about okay
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playing records right right and for Flex
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if you wasn't a 1am club in New York club record
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or being played in that 1am set view wasn't cracking a funk Flex set
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that's from the G-Unit days to the locks days Bone Crusher even when he jumped on the
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Atlanta Records just like hold right developed all of that [ __ ] yeah
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anything outside of that is going to have a hard time getting cracked he got on Focus late
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personally per this is my personal take I don't even see getting mad at Flex today where you got the the internet is
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what made you pop y'all never needed him what can and this is not a shot Flex
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you're solidified but today is so many ways to get your [ __ ] out there and pop
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and become successful without radio radio's damn near a dying medium today but I don't think that that's as a
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rapper though you can feel like somebody's going out of their way to you especially if [ __ ] played in New York City bro and especially if in the case
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of sus one at least you went on a major platform and said I'm one of your favorite rappers ever but you never play my [ __ ] yeah but that's true that's two
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different things that's too sensitive for me that's two different things I could go on TV and say what the [ __ ] I
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want and I can go to my job and play what the [ __ ] I want or you could be one of my favorite rappers and I don't like
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listening to your songs favorite rappers in the car and while I'm home for a personal time I have a
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job to do yo these DJs you know how many ill lyricists I can't listen to their
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music but but yeah you got bars just because you can spit bars and
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metaphors and entangles don't mean you can make a good record so I think the bigger point is what Joe's saying is it or what you mentioned earlier this is my
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slot this is my format this is what the type of music that I have to play I have to play Top 40 because I'm On It Whatever five o'clock prime time I can't
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play not commercial music at that slot I have to bring in ratings I have to bring
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in uh time spent listening I have to retain audience
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listen I can see it see it on AMP you play one bad record you lose one or two people or record they deem to be bad
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really that's how these things work so no you ain't got time to go up there
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and play around with some [ __ ] that he don't feel I'm hoping I'm saying like I'm caping for Flex because I totally
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get where Conway is coming from if he never singles out Flex he could have made that blanket
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statement about older DJs in New York and how they missing the beat with some
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young fresh [ __ ] but you could have said yeah
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young and fresh as in young and fresh about this man this y'all but damn near
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the same age that's not a shot talking about the audience but hear me out the sound isn't like you said this is an
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older sound it's a sound that like you said if you [ __ ] with it because from
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that's that's the year ever I like the [ __ ] that get busy with it that's not the young sound today I know young
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people like Brazil I'm I'm not saying it's still an underground it's not enough not a popular it is to them
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that's a small portion of the pie they're not like uh commercial
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no they're not we're not talking about that that's what I'm on the radio I'm talking about commercial
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let me ask everybody got to stay in the lane yo let me ask you a question it wouldn't be weird if tech nine popped up and started disinflex sure yeah why let
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me ask you a question wait answer me answer that first why that might not be what he Tech N9 is
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older than them though and been around the game way longer than them so now if he ages not the reason don't listen no
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I'm talking about his age in the game like his length of the game so now if
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you just magically was being satisfied over here making money being an underground hip-hop artist and now
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magically you come to the one of the biggest um mediums in the world and say yo y'all not playing my [ __ ] it would look
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awkward these are Street under rappers that want to be heard on the street platforms and
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technically hip Hot 97 is a street hip-hop platform that's the mistake that's not true that's not true 97 is
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nothing is nothing I don't care if you're listening at two in the morning it's not a street platform nothing about it Rosenberg goes on their place I don't
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care what he plays I'm just saying 97 is not a street platform that is a
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privately owned company that was purchased uh that purchased whatever they did have many
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years ago and that street they could go play every street record
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they want to play they can play it 24 7. know what I mean I don't mean like that I don't mean that it's a street ran business it's definitely a privately
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owned company but when you start talking about hip-hop I get what he's saying yo I get what he's saying into your into your tech
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nine point let me ask you this can you can you say and I'm not comparing them before everybody runs and
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says dumb [ __ ] can you say that they are or their sound is much much different
- 27:29
than the locks because that's the comparison that's being made
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real quick no we're not arguing I'm asking a
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question well to answer your question is that they are similar depends on which you talk about too though
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that first single is if you think I'm just no it don't it was they were making commercial records and Street records
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they don't make anything commercial which is what but Styles P today puts out [ __ ] that's a lot closer to Griselda
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than he's putting out in 19 you don't hear Styles P on Hot 97 that's true true
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that is true that's it I'm not even dignifying that from a rap fan
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that's it if you make that sound you want to make the underground sounding music it's
- 28:19
going to be underground to these platforms you're not unfamiliar you would have to be with the locks and when
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they came in like to make that statement like the locks as well the locks came in
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putting hooks yeah on records on your beat it was joints songs that just was
- 28:38
Street freestyles they came in like that hmm listen the biggest uh locks moment
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of the last year was Jadakiss rapping over Showbiz and AGS [ __ ] next next level remix which is griselda-esque
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wait the biggest freestyle last year was what I'm saying the biggest locks moment was Jadakiss freestyling over the
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Showbiz and AG uh Next Level they played live in the club right now they play
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that in the club so which is why I say which era yeah the from verses they re-released it as a single they did
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mm-hmm and that is a similar sound I'm sure no that is not a okay you ain't getting it
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I'm not Grand rising out of me I'll get both of them what Griselda
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freestyle remind you of that what you mean which Griselda freestyle remind you
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or put you in the vein of what Jadakiss did several I don't know the names of them
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off top my head I'm just talking about the sound it's from The Sound that's what I'm talking about exactly
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and again before everybody starts saying I'm I'm saying that Dave rap as good as Jada I'm not I'm not saying that either
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what I'm saying is the sound is similar I don't even hear a similar sound cool
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and again you artists that make the underground sound
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I told y'all that was my beef that's why I don't really listen to them that much it's that sound
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it's yeah it's going to be treated as underground Granite it's a huge fan base that [ __ ] with it but it's still
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underground I agree and I don't expect them to play that um yo the thing about this is the thing yo
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it's what they say about why Ben Simmons need to shoot the three even if you can't make it or trying to mid-range
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right this is the thing and I'm about to get geeky musician for a second
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but as a musician when you're at your ceiling of of limitations and you only have so but so much in your toolbox
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you'll eventually have to go and learn to add sure and whether you're good or
- 30:47
bad at that just you trying to do these other things will add a a weapon for you
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in other instances so I guess when you say yeah they did the same thing up there
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one freestyle Jadakiss freestyle but because Jadakiss is such a Swiss army
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knife and is so well versed in all of these different rap variations
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it's gonna look different when he does it it's a master up there it's not just
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rhyming words over a certain sound it's control and command of an entire
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building of words and silence no I'm not just throwing that on these [ __ ]
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they're great rappers they have to go and figure out how to add those other
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things that make the flexes pay attention that make uh in uh DJ Envy at
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whatever Club he used to do all of the different DJs that were in Nightlife that [ __ ] that [ __ ] that the locks do
- 31:52
that made you play any Styles P record that came next that's that's what I'm talking it's like
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an intangible thing we just talking about words and sounds
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I'm done how's my rant and I agree it's my rapper rant for the day
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my rapper great rapping don't get you in every room yo for sure for sure that's true
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I agree with that it's like I said it's a lot of great rappers
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excellent bars that go word Smiths that's whatever you want to call them play them no I
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don't want to hear that [ __ ] but I ain't even mad at Conway if he go and make a few records that he feel like Flex
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should have played oh damn how do you skip these see you could go through that over there yo I'm
- 32:40
blowing up I'm from over here it's getting kind of hard to ignore me if you're not [ __ ] with me now it's
- 32:45
just you're not [ __ ] with me yeah you can think that but you still got to go give it a shot and see if you could crack that hip-hop
- 32:51
fan fandom is built on the first time somebody hearing you they don't [ __ ] with you
- 32:57
it's how do you get how you get through those walls from people you think Hip-hop fans is just receptive to [ __ ]
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that is true we are especially but we ain't a lot of people that I'm a fan of when I first heard them I was like nah
- 33:09
I'm cool and then they made something else that wasn't like what I first heard yeah and I'm like oh [ __ ] with this I
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talk here all the time about my little five six seven song Rule and how I block out radio I block out Flex I block out
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certain [ __ ] cause you just can't get me with that mm-hmm no whatever
- 33:30
I wish everybody well indeed though indeed thoughts and prayers oh yeah thoughts and prayers everybody says to
- 33:36
the Griselda team is very good at drumming up some [ __ ] to get people talking just roll out there I
- 33:42
don't know if it's a rollout but that's a good thing I don't like I said uh during the West Side conversation the
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last pod they're fans of the WWF [ __ ] so I wouldn't put it past them to be
- 33:53
playing in some [ __ ] that may be really how they feel but use it to play into something they
- 33:58
might be playing some [ __ ] got it got it so announce it WWF if they really feel like that
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we're going to use that for entertainment purposes yeah then there's a real or fake
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both both I hate y'all think it would be real and then they
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trying to get a result from it though yeah but if they feel like that but I held it until it was beneficial to act
- 34:26
on it then that's where the fake part feel it no it's still real but I'm saying the fake part
- 34:31
let's move on let's move on what do we got dogs we got cardi beefing with the
- 34:37
shave room again again for the second time what third time third time fourth time fifth time oh
- 34:43
this isn't even gonna this has been an ongoing thing oh yeah yeah I didn't know that her people with all the blog sites
- 34:48
really yeah but it seemed a little bit like uh there's been more here yeah well
- 34:55
it sounds like she has like a a relationship yeah someone over there listen I'm for it I'm anti-shave room so
- 35:03
hey cardio so you don't get what to be I don't care yeah I got the shade room blocked like oh [ __ ] they did you man no
- 35:10
they do nothing to me I just think they're just terrible for for us I've always felt that about the shade
- 35:17
room so what's your name I don't like focusing on a negative people yeah I was
- 35:23
just going to say that I don't like the these focus on negativity yeah they got their little positive post
- 35:29
here and there but anything I see that pops up or I see the game people running
- 35:34
with is it's the negativity and it seems like they lean into it's kind of like my beef with the Way Love and Hip Hop used
- 35:40
to be same thing TMZ
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um TMZ does both yeah they do yeah yeah they do I just think that in society
- 35:51
does salacious [ __ ] just grabs more attention it's true so you run into business the negativity [ __ ] is going to
- 35:57
push more than the positivity we it's just negativity generating money but for
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me I feel like if I don't consume anything from them because like I've seen people go on the shade room and
- 36:08
then be stuck there for like just reading and back and forth I don't want to see it so I like I said if she's
- 36:15
taking down the shade room Carter you got my support well her main beef appears to be that she was getting quote unquote Shadow
- 36:21
banned right like the comments they muted her yeah no no no that's a new feature they
- 36:29
didn't they didn't mute her they restricted her so whereas she still sees her comment there but nobody else does
- 36:35
and that's what a sucker [ __ ] came in if you ask me because they made it seem like nah nah nah we still [ __ ] with you
- 36:42
this that in the third and she's like well I'm posting this but somebody else screenshots like no this is what they
- 36:47
did look let me show you how it works and then I started to see that gaslighting word throwing around again
- 36:53
and then that's when I checked out yeah I'm just tired of that word
- 36:58
but um she had a she had a well we ain't got her I think I think it's soccer [ __ ] on their behalf hiding her [ __ ] yeah
- 37:05
like if you're gonna talk about me and you're gonna make money off of me at least give me the um opportunity to address it you get
- 37:11
what I'm saying I agree for you to mute my tweet on I mean my comment only I
- 37:17
think that's cowardly see now you're gonna make me cake for the shade room out it's my platform
- 37:23
you have a bigger platform than me so if you want to go and address something you go and put it on your
- 37:29
Instagram page I disagree I don't have to let you comment on me true on my platform and
- 37:35
that's why I said this I think it's Carolyn sucker [ __ ] you don't have to yeah but if you're gonna make money about talking about me then at least
- 37:42
give me the opportunity and which to speak on it you have it you can have a huge goal you could say something in the
- 37:48
entire world hear it cool you got way more reach than me
- 37:54
um I don't know about that but cardi B has way more reach in the shade room no in in a literal sense yeah but I've
- 38:00
known every since I disagree but it's cool you can disagree how do you disagree with that because everybody
- 38:06
that goes to the shade room on a daily basis don't necessarily check cardi B's page on a daily basis let me finish
- 38:12
there are people that go to the shade room every single day specifically for the negativity right cool so they may
- 38:18
not go to cardi B page every day even if she might got 30 million followers they may not do that but you don't have 30
- 38:25
minutes I'm just giving I'm just throwing a number out I'm just saying so shade she might have double their
- 38:30
followers but people might not necessarily go to their page every single day looking for the [ __ ] that
- 38:36
they go to Shady the shade rooms Paige looking for so allow me the opportunity in which to address it or speak on it
- 38:42
that's just my opinion okay now if cardi B says anything it goes
- 38:48
everywhere you can't avoid it I don't follow cardi b or the shade room guess what I've seen this whole exchange why
- 38:55
not because the shade room says something because cardi said something that's what I mean
- 39:00
she is go you got a bigger platform they're gonna cover whatever you say everywhere you can't escape it cool
- 39:08
so yeah go address it oh gosh I guess do you think she has the power to get
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rid of the shade room no I hope she did I wish you did though I'm with it
- 39:20
get him out of here too late for that yeah now they too big they're too and not for nothing it's too many
- 39:26
of these uh people in bed with them like they're they're a major player now for sure so yeah you ain't going nowhere
- 39:33
and there's a million other ones another one will pop up tomorrow if they if they left another one would just grow stronger and pop up tomorrow start doing
- 39:39
the same [ __ ] because damn they go hire their staff and I think after that Tasha K situation
- 39:46
a lot of these blogs are playing you know they they running past legal making sure hey can I say this can I do
- 39:53
this can I do that like they covering their asses so I don't think she really has much power over them but I just like
- 40:00
to see that got my support cardi you got any thoughts on this
- 40:06
I don't know I hate that I have to no me too no not at all I'm with you I'm with
- 40:12
you I don't really [ __ ] with the shade room and that's that I just don't ever say it because then I would be doing what Conway did to flex that I didn't
- 40:18
like singling them out when it's yeah I just because my problem is not specifically
- 40:23
don't [Music]
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it's a bam
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what was I saying it's not shade room specifically it's
- 40:42
the culture that I have a problem with blonde culture uh
- 40:48
and it's not blog culture it's a specific type of blog culture correct
- 40:53
that uh Builds an audience off of this type of
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[ __ ] like my Conway thing would be hey shave room [ __ ] do 30 billion positive things y'all skip all that and
- 41:06
post every negative thing of every black male that you could possibly find but just say that every day and you know
- 41:15
what else because you know what you know why it's done everybody has a job to do correct they got a job to do as well and
- 41:21
I just like I said the money is generated from negativity it ain't really generated from positivity and on
- 41:27
top of that like like after what you said just made me think like my beef with the shade room necessarily is
- 41:33
because they're the biggest one that's all that is because it's a whole
- 41:39
like you said it's a whole bunch of them out there that do the same [ __ ] for sure but they the name that get attached to it
- 41:45
it's kind of like not for nothing it's kind of like when I used to troll and people used to get upset over it like artists and [ __ ] you see my name in your
- 41:52
mentions a million times but I'm not the one saying the [ __ ] up [ __ ] I'm just saying I didn't like this other people are really getting disrespectful they're
- 41:59
adding on to it but you keep seeing me because I'm the bigger one because for me it's not the brand it's the brand
- 42:05
that uh it's the it's the it's who the brand attracts like I can't get mad at
- 42:12
the shade room they just monetizing off the [ __ ] that people give them they blur
- 42:17
out the curse word they blur out your Twitter name they'll fake a text
- 42:22
exchange they'll fake a skit anything and y'all just run to it eat it right up so I avoid it because I know who the
- 42:30
y'all is that's running to it that's not enough to the shave room right you got to understand branding about everywhere
- 42:36
in life ah case in point last week on the blog something popped up it said big
- 42:43
Fendi and Tory Lanez have a talk about a naked pool party I click on it I know big Finley I know Tory Lanez click on it
- 42:51
Fendi saying yo this weekend it's going down big pool party private location it's gonna be nudity everywhere and then
- 42:58
uh Tori got weird I was like nudity yo what you mean what you mean an Infinity hung up on him so I laughed I thought
- 43:04
that was funny because if you know that fendi's brand yeah then there's nudity
- 43:09
there absolutely and if you also know his brand might be some other things going on there that's my man
- 43:17
um and I don't go to them shits it's branding right sure enough Monday
- 43:22
morning flashing across the news I'm waking up in bed had a long Sunday
- 43:29
night gunshots ring off at the pool party I said [ __ ] I said [ __ ] this
- 43:34
bird tonight [ __ ] I swear for God Glenn Cove private location there was a
- 43:42
rapper they put Fendi face on the screen of the news oh [ __ ] I said man I turned
- 43:50
to get up I turned to ESPN or some [ __ ] but as I see branding
- 43:58
not to say that that's that's not finny's fault of course and hopefully everybody's all right I didn't see any
- 44:03
uh any casualties fatal fatal casualties anyway um well that's what Captain means
- 44:09
the casualty can be an injury too okay
- 44:15
is that a casualty I think casualty can be an injury
- 44:20
first it's a person killed no yeah I think it's a motorcycle or injured accident yeah could be an injury yeah
- 44:27
yeah casualty sounds a lot worse than it does you got hurt then you got injured
- 44:32
still a casualty yeah that's right anyway that was my shade room take okay
- 44:38
I'm with ice bring him down but now but like it ain't just you know I want my audience to know
- 44:44
that I hate talking about all of this [ __ ] yo I hate it we all I hate that y'all care about it I hate that it's
- 44:50
important somehow all this [ __ ] is a distraction as soon as something happened yo y'all
- 44:56
gotta talk about this like why let's talk about the new picture of this universes yeah you know what I mean talk
- 45:03
about that stars I'll see the picture man I told y'all that was Stars wait what was the what
- 45:09
happened with a new telescope and uh some new stars they took it they took a picture of the universe as you can see all these
- 45:16
little universes it looks like bacteria or something nah hold up no no look at me no no it gets better they said the
- 45:24
area that they looked at was the equivalent of holding one grain of sand at arm's length what so that picture you
- 45:31
see that's what they looked at and they saw all of this in there
- 45:36
what I'm confused can y'all someone explain this to me NASA has a new telescope that they launched uh I forget
- 45:43
when it launched a couple years ago but it's supposed to be the the Hubble telescope was like the farthest seeing
- 45:48
[ __ ] we had now it's this uh uh James Webb Telescope which it can go it can
- 45:55
see way way way it makes the Hubble telescope look like play play School uh preschool [ __ ] this is the big boy
- 46:03
so they released the first images that they took from it and this is the first image and they were saying that the area
- 46:10
that they looked at was the equivalent of holding one grain of sand at arm's length so that's how small it is they
- 46:16
looked and they saw all of this I call [ __ ] this would matter more
- 46:22
to us if Bosque did it
- 46:28
some quotes fail I hear you man I know
- 46:35
you think it's all phony hell yeah I'll believe none of this they telling us anything now like yo yo
- 46:42
that's that's all the galaxies out there I just wonder how much that [ __ ] cost that's just that's that's how zob came out
- 46:47
universal I think it was on this is Sky Zone hi hi yeah I've seen that before
- 46:55
I actually saw that before yeah yeah back when I was trying to get the little vision thing and I was
- 47:01
staring at the light bulb too much and pulled back and blinked I saw the same thing no [ __ ] that is true it was
- 47:08
moving and everything same [ __ ] I've been had the James Webb Telescope man y'all late
- 47:16
oh man congrats yeah congrats
- 47:22
is there aliens yet aliens why we ain't been back to the Moon
- 47:28
ta-da would you like to know their reasoning that we haven't been back to the Moon
- 47:34
yeah okay so they said when we went to the Moon it was a completely barren
- 47:40
empty lifeless Rock so they said they don't want to keep wasting resources going
- 47:46
there when they've already went there saw it was nothing there so now let's go somewhere else resources as in capital
- 47:51
it costs a lot of money to get these rockets and Cindy's astronauts up there one one spacesuit is 12 million dollars
- 47:57
who makes the money they make the money oh I get what you're
- 48:02
saying so what are they spending not just that in a governmental budget every year NASA
- 48:08
gets XYZ billions and billions and billions well now it's space uh space force yeah I know yes we gotta be
- 48:15
careful Neil deGrasse Tyson again Joe's ass about that and he explained space force to me and we didn't know we need
- 48:22
that [ __ ] we need space no no you start really looking at your sports ain't running around looking for aliens
- 48:28
so y'all went to the moon in 79 or what year was that let me ask you about 69 [ __ ] Ain't gonna let me ask you a
- 48:34
question and just was like oh that was cool that never went back look hey first time I went to Turks you know what I
- 48:41
said oh I will be back here well there was no worries
- 48:50
up here yeah but look first time I went to Chester PA I said I'm never coming back here again
- 48:56
you said you never go back to New York I said Chester PA let me ask you a question how was the flag waiver
- 49:04
foreign
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how was the flag going like you talking about this the in my shower hand Moon
- 49:21
ain't no wind ain't no gravity how the [ __ ] was the flag fluttering the moons
- 49:27
yeah I'll just tell you they murdered they ain't been to no moves this is not Hollywood [ __ ] you talk about it so
- 49:33
everybody here believe they never went to the moon I believe they never went to the moon they took off from Cape Canaveral on what
- 49:41
we wanted to take off spot man hey man
- 49:47
tell me put me onto something President Joe Biden unveiled this image
- 49:53
of Galaxy cluster s-m-a-c-s-0723 conveniently the daily
- 49:59
Sun's uh Coke binges leak up
- 50:06
you got you got this from the Bogota you got that from the Bogota oh man
- 50:11
that's funny don't think they're selling the Bogota them images right there them pictures right next to little gas
- 50:19
station dick pill oh man yo all everybody's having a time yeah I ain't mad at them though yo somebody get that
- 50:25
man this phone back why they leaking all this [ __ ] out his phone yo
- 50:30
that's crazy Hunter Biden's iPhone was hacked and
- 50:35
somebody is going crazy with [ __ ] he got in his phone he seems to get he seems to suffer from the same thing I suffer and
- 50:42
be punished from not deleting things out of your phone some of this [ __ ] they had a video of
- 50:49
him going away some some crack and arguing about it not because the chick was like nah I ain't 20 grand
- 50:55
whatever it was and he was like now watch
- 51:00
so nice seeing this is weird if Donald Trump wasn't Donald Trump he'd
- 51:07
be funny because now that's funny where's Hunter where's your son
- 51:13
they was hiding out but it was the report saying they was hiding his son during the campaign
- 51:21
no the crazy [ __ ] is this yo you really don't judge them [ __ ] don't judge
- 51:26
them y'all y'all parents now hope their friends don't run into some of y'all in the streets yeah but you the same [ __ ] that
- 51:34
be dissing [ __ ] for doing what your son doing you bastard yeah
- 51:39
I think it held up a rock and was like yo this piece of crack is worth five years no parole no this no
- 51:47
that we gotta get them away from our kids your kids
- 51:55
and I'm hating on this I don't know if my dad and them ever did this [ __ ] type of high crack usage type of [ __ ]
- 52:02
Savvy High crack usage is this or they want in the projects weighing some [ __ ] you took what was in the bag and that
- 52:08
was that you pull a scale out if you want man his room is a mess
- 52:14
he's high he is a freak ass he could be getting high somewhere else he getting
- 52:20
high in the Jacks you see that carpet [ __ ] is you talking about it no if you start selling that
- 52:27
[ __ ] in the street calling the White House try to draw is broken yo what did you
- 52:33
talk about my [ __ ] that's crackhead she ain't got a shave a haircut nothing you got some crack though
- 52:39
you got cracking hoes some nice old yo yeah
- 52:46
Joe buying Kirk Franklin in there [Music]
- 52:52
video him doing crap that's what I I don't why was he videotaping the holidays and why does ish want to have
- 52:58
sex with the girls that were doing crack with him if you see a girl doing crack [ __ ]
- 53:03
yeah shut up yo I don't know you're mad you ever been a girl dick right I hope
- 53:08
not oh y'all don't know I don't know
- 53:15
yeah for sure Coke but crack no I don't know she pulled a crack pipe out I gotta
- 53:20
go yeah yeah I ain't gonna hold you you gotta go you home oh then she gotta go get that [ __ ] out of here
- 53:28
no she's leaving you're gonna put in the street she gotta go I don't care do not
- 53:33
go you gotta go I ice good crackle every now and again
- 53:39
out my crib I'm mad you even know where I live how do you think [ __ ] are getting skinny before lipo Coke
- 53:47
um which is in Coke was different though Honey by his iPhone yo get this off my
- 53:55
screen please I don't want to look at this no more that's how it should be with defeat
- 54:04
oh yeah Joe Joe I went and did my due diligence
- 54:10
listen to that Brent album my man I'm here to tell you you were bugging
- 54:17
um the album ghost oh no it does go
- 54:23
I got y'all say where it goes it's a difference I can tell you exactly where it went
- 54:30
that's why I called it waistline that's what you're getting at yeah right in the waistband nah no no I
- 54:38
was like I don't know what and the records you played I didn't like that first one which was the uh the first one yeah not good but the other two was all
- 54:44
right fam this album went you here is still talking about two songs
- 54:51
he's saying the first song you played was whack is your other yeah
- 54:57
the other two songs that you played were okay is what he's saying no well yeah
- 55:02
when you played those but I said I wouldn't listen to the entire project and I was like oh nah this yeah you love
- 55:10
it yeah I like I love this but why do that mean I'm bugging because you love it because you made it seem like this [ __ ]
- 55:16
was ass no I came in here and said how I felt about this project and I was like I wasn't trying to I wasn't trying to
- 55:23
convince anybody else on how to feel oh you know I relate to that yeah I'm not trying to convince nobody how to feel
- 55:28
they've been in my life all the robots hit me and was uh tell me I was bugging family
- 55:33
if they still hurt they still cursing me out about Thor little robot
- 55:41
not like the normal use of uh
- 55:48
let's just leave it man I'm not leaving
- 55:53
hey you all you [ __ ] being paid to tweet some [ __ ] that's facts
- 55:59
that is true the [ __ ] out of here they're not even people yeah that's an auto tweet nice we also know that when
- 56:06
it comes to some music me and you just ain't gonna never see eyes absolutely absolutely like that's true that's true
- 56:13
you like you be you'll see you you down with these
- 56:19
because you go find some obscure [ __ ] off beat with a wild thing you're like
- 56:26
yo this that [ __ ] right here finding the Obscure r b [ __ ] I said
- 56:32
obscure off beat I'm just yeah [ __ ] horrible he's horrible yeah this album was good I
- 56:39
thought it was all right yeah I hate it I didn't love it I'm probably not gonna play it again but this is not bad that's your politically correct way of saying I
- 56:46
am doing this with y'all get me out of here I'm happy that he's doing well I'm happy that this is selling I'm happy y'all like it
- 56:53
but this is bad this is some [ __ ] on here
- 56:59
I went back to make sure are you standing there
- 57:06
was a 19 pack of ass
- 57:11
we just gotta agree to this hey Alex I I ain't even talk to you about it what you think man I know that's your man yeah
- 57:17
I'm Still rocking Still rocking I can tell you my favorites right now rolling stone
- 57:23
you know Loose Change aside Yo Joe what's up with you
- 57:30
that might be the worst music reviewers I've ever heard that she that's you liking it I mean I'm
- 57:38
not trying to sway anyone just like how I sound like you know it's for me ain't about
- 57:43
swearing [ __ ] don't like what they like and that's fine but
- 57:48
shout out to him because this album is good I was jamming
- 57:58
did you hear him I heard him he said [ __ ] with you you heard it too
- 58:04
huh so your ears is broke you just got your eyes fixed you gotta get dumb shits
- 58:10
checked the [ __ ] out you got to get the ear wax candles or what Alex you heard it nah look play Rolling Stone all right
- 58:16
but listen to this though that [ __ ] is I feel you
- 58:25
yeah
- 58:30
you're in that particular song I like the two that you played last week
- 58:39
all right I got you it's one of your favorite drug hold up [ __ ] I I was Jimmy I like the second
- 58:46
half a person thing that was my favorite [ __ ] [Music] you gotta bump this in the sound cabin
- 58:54
so I could hear all the instruments in this fine beat up exactly
- 59:00
was that an accordion oh [ __ ]
- 59:05
see that's what it seemed like you don't like his voice he's a kid in this one that's how I know ice lying his head
- 59:11
knot is offbeat like he can't he can't even catch this [ __ ] Eric says zoom in on Ice neck don't zoom in on anything
- 59:18
ice he's a key though he's in key this time
- 59:23
and you got to say that I'm gonna pass
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hell no shout out to him I like bread I like him personally too
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and I wish him well but y'all better get off my dick
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and hey maybe two things are true hey maybe I'm the old [ __ ] that just gotta stay away from this
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could be sometimes
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when you used to go in the mall they'd have somebody playing a piano
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and sometimes it wasn't tuned they ain't stopped you
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[ __ ] from shopping that didn't stop you [ __ ] from
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surrounding the piano that you didn't know needed to be too he was like oh [ __ ] looks Silent Night
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there you go so so they load money in the case keep it pushing oh my God if I
- 1:00:25
don't have you on Park's ears thank you yeah yeah for sure
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when you all started laughing I didn't know what y'all was laughing uh that [ __ ] was out of key like a [ __ ]
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they said [ __ ] it I don't be knowing about the keys yeah engineer trying to find the kids
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will just take the auto tune off I guess he lost his keys
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in the car I don't know about it yeah I don't know I don't care about that [ __ ] [ __ ] makes me sick to my stomach
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no no I played for you just because it's you because because [ __ ] was really
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like yo grandma [Music] never was it oh maybe he's not all the
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way into him no some [ __ ] are saying it was trash some [ __ ] saying it was hot
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y'all not gonna keep telling me that this is me
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you telling me that this is Joe it's me yeah yeah I'm no you gotta get
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your ears tuned that was bad to you the first verse was bad
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and or you saying I'm sorry it was bad
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not what he this would probably be dope if the dentist is running late
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like if you just got to sit there and you read and you read the whole newspaper already front to back
- 1:01:57
it's like a gear up for the pain of the drilling that's gonna happen yeah yeah
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no that [ __ ] probably do sound good if you oh stuck on the airplane with 50
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crying screaming babies terrible God terrible terrible Jesus
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Mary and Joseph God damn
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it wasn't bad to me nah this [ __ ] wasn't bad that last one wasn't terrible I know that first one though it still ain't
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listening two records
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the way it was cool he put it together [ __ ] you ain't listening to this [ __ ] but when you just played it that wasn't
- 1:02:42
bad anyway all right move it on man um what's going on at these festivals they
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fighting I'm watching all festivals online from now on I'm cool it's probably a safe
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maneuver yeah yeah yeah yeah we've seen Roddy Rich fight
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yeah you've seen he was trying to kick him like that damn I don't know what's going on with
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these festivals cardi had a fight cardi Falls over people were fighting at her show
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no she she swallowed she did not fight somebody look at you lying to [ __ ] me
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you're the shade room you are the shade is wrong I see them Frozen room pool no
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shade Shady ice the cooler all right guys wow
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she was involved oh you Takashi now
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all right oh you just turned God damn what happened this ninjas get stitches
- 1:03:41
she was involved I don't know wow I don't know nothing who else was there was Hennessy there
- 1:03:53
you know I was Hennessy there you go you stupid
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I don't [ __ ] know what happened I saw a bunch of I saw a fight at Erica but I do concerts
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oh somebody tried to grab the mic somebody tried to grab the mic from her
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and she took it back she gave him some power it was her mic I
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mean she just took her mic I like the way he explained that yeah yeah she took him back that's all they was rocking at the
- 1:04:24
Erykah Badu listen there's something in the air some people been inside too long yo I don't know
- 1:04:31
who the performers were in the videos I saw because I don't know none of y'all no
- 1:04:37
more [Laughter]
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I made the screen big I can't recognize any of y'all I don't
- 1:04:50
who are all of your [ __ ]
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hey who is this all you [ __ ] look like little
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caricatures of one another with a bunch of chains and design her [ __ ] on
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oh man I need to get the killer kick all I know is they
- 1:05:18
should get better security shows security been [ __ ] you fans up that's a fact they've been clotheslining y'all
- 1:05:24
off the stage yo that's what I don't understand though like football tackles drop kicks we all know some security
- 1:05:31
[ __ ] right yeah they can't wait for this [ __ ] to happen facts they love it like I'm talking about anywhere from a
- 1:05:37
club to anywhere they love for somebody to step out of line and give them an excuse to whoop some ass
- 1:05:44
yeah I seen the one where homeboy got through I forgot who was performing but he got thrown like 10 feet off that
- 1:05:49
[ __ ] stage like why are you trying security there for a reason my [ __ ] they're gonna [ __ ]
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you up maybe people think they can get a lawsuit out of this they probably can it's a sad thing no I
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don't I don't think they think that they're gonna get their ass whooped that Roddy Rich kicked me and I'm a fan I'm
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suing your ass I don't care if your leg ain't but so damn long
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in your ass you got the security for a reason [ __ ]
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you made the Box Go sing the [ __ ]
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the [ __ ] plane I don't understand yeah these [ __ ] rappers and these fans stupid ass fans
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oh sad face Dirk didn't get through customs again
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yo what's wrong with you talk about rap
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ever again what a fans love rap Joe so they said
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they couldn't see their favorite rapper when something happened they pay their money to see this person all right let's play a game okay what's
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up let's play you work Customs
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you got a baby and you got a baby
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you want to play or not you win hey
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it wouldn't be no Wireless
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[Laughter]
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anyway so oh I'm talking [ __ ] oh that's funny though that was funny stupid yo oh man
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oh [ __ ] Wireless was three weekends three weekends y'all went to London and
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showed y'all ass out there I got the call
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I know what y'all was doing work yeah I can't say hunter Biden
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hunting tigers I mean you know you out of town and have some fun no London me looking
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real lit these last seven years [Music] damn a nice little last 42 years it
- 1:08:37
looks great feeling a little run hey
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Hollow I'll put the dawn in a box 1942. [Laughter]
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[Applause]
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oh [ __ ] I'm telling you that's the best entertainment you'll buy for 50 or whatever it costs or if you know a
- 1:09:13
battle rapper that [ __ ] is free on caffeine yeah but you gotta subscribe to caffeine I do no you don't even you just
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sign up yeah that's it yeah I thought I was paying them [ __ ] no you just sign up and you can watch them
- 1:09:25
live you just can't watch the replay yeah no replays yeah but Saturday was a nice day so I was
- 1:09:32
busy so you can use the app to watch the oil or no like you said or no battle
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Yeah oh [ __ ] yeah I'll get back to my my uh gnome review
- 1:09:43
yeah I want to watch the rest of them but I did watch leave him alone Cool J Rock
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when he when he get into that bag just leave him alone okay Sean killed my man
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oh sick he was on it I didn't see that I came in late yeah he
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was on there that's what I asked about ice was like he ain't getting yeah oh it
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was that bad you got the funeral voice on I'll cut it off you lying all right man I cut it off
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because that's your right on you and killed my man in front of me helpless
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chewed up well let me shoot him some bail and then
- 1:10:37
we'll leave this [ __ ] holla at a nice Christian Bale line too there was some good [ __ ] in
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there um I'll say this greed man
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you get hot phone starts ringing a lot you want to show up a lot that involves writing it's a lot of
- 1:10:56
battling your name get hot some of the veterans don't like it and now you're the Yankees
- 1:11:02
you're getting everybody's best game so that's what's been happening with sick you've been taking a lot of battles
- 1:11:08
with not a lot of writing time against killers and they don't maybe like his meteoric
- 1:11:15
rise or they do like it and one ended like you get price for end and runs like
- 1:11:22
that and k-shine is dnas man and DNA Beach
- 1:11:27
sick so he probably gave him the blueprint and some pointers and [ __ ] and honestly
- 1:11:34
this case Sean had showed up he don't lose this is the case shine into a verb up
- 1:11:41
this Decay Shine from that first round against surf where I thought surf was about to happen I thought surf was dying
- 1:11:47
in front of me until surf wrapped oh thank God thank God my man I have some
- 1:11:52
bars to you cause that [ __ ] hey just go back and watch k-shawn around want to
- 1:11:58
get surf yo and tell me you ain't think surface about to die Tsunami Surf there ain't nothing wavy
- 1:12:05
about oh well whoa no that's my man you can do that
- 1:12:12
don't get it you can't even react to it if that's your man you gotta yeah yeah I've seen a couple of them that was the
- 1:12:18
case Sean that [ __ ] flipped six so many times oh man great
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wait what he said oh oh I don't remember it was too much I
- 1:12:28
want to see that you still got it I'll pass that yeah I need to see that
- 1:12:36
because when Sean he was animated yeah when he gets super animated he don't really lose if he liked this it's hard
- 1:12:42
my thing is he just don't always be like this correct but when he like that look the [ __ ] look great lost weight
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he's in shape like look at him I'm not battling that [ __ ] right now no I'm hot
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as Fish Grease sorry I'm hanging up the phone on that boom not to come to know him though yeah you're gonna go up
- 1:13:02
against him no I'm not you gotta level up no I yeah at the best presentation of
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yourself gnome is known it's one of the biggest events it'll be there next year when I show up I have to show up as the
- 1:13:16
best me this [ __ ] didn't took 90 battles in the last three months that's a mistake a lot and then he said it in
- 1:13:21
the round just when you was thinking and he said it you've been writing for me for months I've been writing for two
- 1:13:27
weeks well [ __ ] why the [ __ ] are you on the stage that's a mistake we've seen a lot about
- 1:13:32
you nice but you playing with gorillas now
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these ain't the same play this ain't you take too many battles back to back pgs yeah Proving Grounds yeah oh my God
- 1:13:46
yeah what hey the next break we take I'm gonna go ahead and cut it off for you so that's my man I ain't get to editor
- 1:13:53
around I was not staying for the rest of that he's sick I love you and I think you
- 1:13:59
rhyme better than all these [ __ ] but chill the bag be called the [ __ ] run to it
- 1:14:05
in the hollow gichi battle that's what Hollow brought up as well and it's in his last round
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he said you take every [ __ ] battle
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a pumpkin Norman Madison Square Garden he said he had to battle tonight I said where he said hey wait I said where he
- 1:14:22
said not oh no he said I bumped into him at the house part see who's better than House Parties
- 1:14:30
yeah he says morning I'm [ __ ] a lineup but yeah these new
- 1:14:37
[ __ ] they just take too many battles because they and you tell somebody to turn away that money yeah you get hot 20
- 1:14:44
000 in the night 30 000 in the Night 40 000 in a night I got mad nights in the year
- 1:14:51
and I could write some shoes try to mail it in and go get that 50. well that's what we've seen happen [ __ ] getting
- 1:14:57
that's what you see the stumbles in the uh I don't even have time to really perfect this because I'm just coming off the last battle now I'm on this battle
- 1:15:04
and then right after this I got another one Gucci got busy Gigi loss real word
- 1:15:10
this is a word like that ain't yeah but the third round was crazy third round was crazy but he lost he lost his bound
- 1:15:18
I had to tell you what Tay Rock winning JC winning uh Hollow winning Tay Rock winning yesterday
- 1:15:27
Rock uh k-shine Hollow um but anyway shout out to them fellas
- 1:15:34
man I love that watching I'm getting more into it now I used to just watch Surf or like my jersey [ __ ] right now
- 1:15:41
I just watched this [ __ ] now this [ __ ] is I couldn't do it they just a different level of creative
- 1:15:48
they control the crowd the real good ones and the memories [ __ ] they control yeah like when yeah that part the yeah
- 1:15:57
I gotta watch the Danny battle I didn't see it I didn't see that one yet um all right Danny Myers the white kid
- 1:16:04
no no no no what's the black guy we'll tell you later you don't have to not know like live
- 1:16:12
you're not stupid uh y'all want to touch that gillion Rick Ross
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it's not really a story here what do you say uh I guess when
- 1:16:23
the backstory here is on one of them videos maybe it was
- 1:16:29
Dwayne Lil Wayne video I don't know because I'm not watching this [ __ ] Ross left a comment under one of the posts
- 1:16:34
that Gilly didn't like uh in his uh and his new podcast he's responding to
- 1:16:40
it that's the story I don't know why they saying to sneak this you didn't sneak and sneak this it was very direct I don't have anything to
- 1:16:47
say about this but I will tell Gilly is that Ross is buying all those uh animals
- 1:16:52
and [ __ ] for tax purpose and tax purposes absolutely yeah Farmland that's it
- 1:16:58
there's no way for us to know that over here with no Farms
- 1:17:05
he's got farms in Jersey now they gotta go in Jersey and Jersey and in Western Jersey [ __ ] be doing the bees and all
- 1:17:13
that [ __ ] yeah ain't none of you [ __ ] ever tried to go half on the farm shut up
- 1:17:20
what you like different heifers yo
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[Music]
- 1:17:35
um what y'all think about Mario so yeah I've never been against him
- 1:17:41
again oh but he's been riding high off of the verses naturally which he should be yeah
- 1:17:48
and so he announced this Friday he has a single dropping and the single features
- 1:17:53
Tory Lanez the second he announced that it was like the entire
- 1:17:58
wages how dare you yeah they pulled up his old tweets whose old tweets Marios
- 1:18:05
he said something along the lines of you know even though I know Tori personally this is crazy to hear that this happened
- 1:18:10
like you got to protect black women something like that to that effect and people are upset that he did this
- 1:18:17
he's doing this record yeah there's his old tweet uh this
- 1:18:23
redacted this situation got me in awe sad as [ __ ]
- 1:18:30
knowing Tori personally this [ __ ] crazy to me black men we gotta learn how to control our ego anger Etc at some point
- 1:18:36
the switch gotta turn off protect black women heal black men love and respect each other
- 1:18:42
so that's the tweet and people are upset that you're now
- 1:18:48
promoting the single with Tory Lanez show me pictures of the people yeah I want to say what school do they
- 1:18:54
go to where do they work where do they live do they have both their parents do they have siblings do they have kids do
- 1:19:01
they have money are they broke do they drive do they take the train do they Uber were they part of that [ __ ] uh
- 1:19:07
door door Dash scam the other day [ __ ] do they come outside yeah I want to see
- 1:19:12
them I'm done I'm done with that I'm done with day not pronoun day right and
- 1:19:18
not the group day you good hey hey brother you gotta stay
- 1:19:24
on your toes you could yeah but up that day yeah people was upset though I'm done
- 1:19:31
with that day them [ __ ] ain't never listen no [ __ ] Mario in the first place and I
- 1:19:36
saw a lot of that like look at all this love y'all giving him now is fake his last songs with Chris Brown
- 1:19:45
y'all ain't seen [ __ ] and
- 1:19:50
that's just the time there was nothing wrong with the Tweet either no no if that's what man this is a black man
- 1:19:56
holding another black man accountable correct and pulling him up not in um malicious sounding nasty sounding way
- 1:20:04
and maybe just maybe he went and got some information or had a conversation
- 1:20:09
with his Man Behind the Scenes that makes him feel comfortable enough to make this song I can't speak for him I ain't spoken to him
- 1:20:16
but I know the song gonna be fine yeah yeah and chick's tape three four and five still fire
- 1:20:23
and alone at prom and Playboy oh Playboy
- 1:20:32
that's a conversation there that [ __ ] been say what you want
- 1:20:38
stupid yo did you hear him on that prom yeah y'all couldn't heard that in things
- 1:20:54
wait you heard Playboy right yes Alex you heard Playboy did you like it I love
- 1:21:01
it I forgot what is one of the best r b projects since its release huh hello yes
- 1:21:08
that's it that's it I ain't got nothing else to say no I ain't heard nothing better than them on that problem since
- 1:21:14
it dropped r b Watts I'm not pitting black men against each other I'm just saying
- 1:21:21
in a constructive criticism type of way because I saw a lot of people saying and I'm leaving this [ __ ] alone for good
- 1:21:26
that's a lot of people saying uh Joe got uh some nerve criticizing that when he bigs up mad records that's in the same
- 1:21:33
vein of that I totally disagree with that I could not disagree more with that and I think that's what's at the core of
- 1:21:38
my problem with it the tracks are so empty that you need a
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vocal to uphold it and if it's not doing that that's a clash he could be the greatest guy in
- 1:21:51
the world but that's going to always sound like a Clash party next door don't do a whole bunch of Records where it's she's just
- 1:21:57
dropping all the instruments out and expecting his voice to carry the [ __ ] neither did Bryson
- 1:22:02
neither did any of these [ __ ] that do that they don't do it valid so that's a
- 1:22:08
good point anyway it's a sound that works for him yeah yeah I'm not mad at him for that you know what I'm saying yeah
- 1:22:15
this is gonna be fire dude this is gonna be fire y'all can say what you want yeah
- 1:22:21
I'm a cop
- 1:22:27
um oh yeah we can get into this so T-Pain explained to academics he says
- 1:22:32
that Chris Brown suffers from Princess complex that's not a nice thing sir I don't agree with it
- 1:22:39
they don't it don't sound like a nice place like something well no because I don't prove its point
- 1:22:46
I guess I get his point and it was I disagree with it but what he was saying was
- 1:22:52
it's almost the equivalent of pretty pretty privilege um like you've been getting away at
- 1:22:57
doing what you do for so long that now that you do something it's like yo this supposed to work because I'm me
- 1:23:03
um I disagree I think they're here and people been getting on my ass about it Paul's like oh you claiming he's been
- 1:23:10
Shadow banned you've claiming this you claiming that well it has happened I see Jermaine Dupree even put a tweet
- 1:23:17
out saying yo I'm looking at Apple's top 30 r b tracks and there's nothing from
- 1:23:22
Chris Brown's album here not one song he was like sleep at night should be in here and if if nothing else just that
- 1:23:29
but that goes to my point about playlisting if they don't put in the playlist it's
- 1:23:34
probably not gonna be charting that's a gatekeeper yeah I just want to throw that in there that's what a gatekeeper
- 1:23:39
is Funk Master Flex doesn't even if he's not playing your record yes he's not a gatekeeper taste maker
- 1:23:47
though it's a little influencer icon icon all of those things
- 1:23:53
but you can get in for sure you can get in the club you can get in you can try
- 1:23:58
and you know I saw a lot of the because um back to Brent's numbers or Brent's
- 1:24:03
album his numbers was like 105 or something like that it was amazing number especially to be independent yeah
- 1:24:09
and the first thing I saw ah he also Chris Brown I like like pitting up against each other stop hitting black
- 1:24:16
men against each other whoa that same list that Jermaine Dupree put out for
- 1:24:21
Amazon number one he was number one on the playlist it was people out there I didn't even know how songs out like it
- 1:24:28
was it was a little rough so those two go hand in hand you know what I'm saying playlist and your numbers Etc things
- 1:24:34
like that but that's why when another when some of these major major artists drop and they're plastered all over the
- 1:24:40
the new music screen and the new playlist of everything they're the top three four records yeah so let me ask
- 1:24:47
you a question because you know it's not my thing got you how does somebody as big as Chris Brown
- 1:24:57
how does somebody as big as Chris Brown how does that happen to them
- 1:25:03
I'm asking out of curiosity because I don't know well one and I'm not sure
- 1:25:10
you you could rub some people around piss off somebody gotcha it could be it could be the label
- 1:25:16
that you have your deal with like he's licensing his music to RCA it
- 1:25:21
could be something on their end that they haven't done to get it where it needs to be because that's the purpose of the major label at
- 1:25:28
this point gotcha remember how like before years ago the major label was the ones that would get you on MTV bet the
- 1:25:35
radio you know get you in these magazines that was all controlled by the major label now
- 1:25:41
because you don't necessarily there is no videos on BET MTV radio is you know it's not as needed but it's still there
- 1:25:48
so the the step that the labels control now is your access to playlisting things
- 1:25:54
of these nature so it could be something in there where somebody just didn't do what they were supposed to do I I really don't I wasn't gonna benefit from doing
- 1:26:00
it so they didn't do it I mean it's Chris Brown so I think they would benefit that's the partnership agreement
- 1:26:05
they have but it's it's it could be a number of things but when you are with a major and
- 1:26:12
the major isn't doing what the major is supposed to do it will show in your numbers gotcha and in this case it
- 1:26:18
showed now the reason behind that we may never know but I do think when I saw Chris getting
- 1:26:24
mad and uh putting his comments up like oh you know you blogs you report on you report on me
- 1:26:30
anytime it's negative but you won't report that my album is out I think he directed that the wrong way
- 1:26:36
that should have been directed a holy [ __ ] your label and your team oh
- 1:26:43
something happened well you said Brent was independent and
- 1:26:48
we know him to be independent don't tell me he so a hundred and five thousand and a hundred and ten thousand
- 1:26:55
sounds amazing pass amazing for an independent artist he's fighting for number one number one
- 1:27:01
on the little apple list sounds amazing for an independent artist so I went to
- 1:27:07
my album that I purchased by the way okay you just roll your eyes at the camera
- 1:27:13
and it says word 2022 lost kids LLC which would be Brent
- 1:27:21
marketed by Venice slash stem marketed by sounded funny to me so I
- 1:27:28
went to go look it up over there okay and learned that Venice is a music
- 1:27:36
company as well as a tech company and it's co-founded in 2019
- 1:27:44
by Troy Carter Jay Irving
- 1:27:50
and Susie Ryu Susie I am unfamiliar with Jay Ervin is
- 1:27:55
Jay Irving and Troy Carter I am not and Jay Irvin is Dr Jason right
- 1:28:07
two well-respected long tenured
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Executives with all the pool in the universe
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yo stop trying to get me with your music Shenanigans tricks yo hey you
- 1:28:27
hyphen ain't gonna get me
- 1:28:32
yeah y'all stop trying to fool me man anyway that that changes things come on man
- 1:28:39
that changed a lot because I was sitting here wondering how I mean I wasn't gonna hate on it because if you Indie and you you know salute but
- 1:28:47
I was sitting here wondering how an independent artist is getting these playlisting placements q a the music
- 1:28:52
technology startup founded by Troy Carter and Susie Ryu has announced Venice Innovation Labs a newly launched
- 1:28:58
software division that enables record labels to better test songs manage their artist rosters and distribute music
- 1:29:03
easily and efficiently according to the announcement do without what you want yo
- 1:29:09
no you gotta read the bottom uh the first product to be released from Venice Innovation Labs or the street are our
- 1:29:15
stream rate and business for labels stream rate is a mobile app that gives sentiment analysts before songs are
- 1:29:21
released engineered and designed for the streaming age vintage for labels is an
- 1:29:27
interface that enables labels to distribute music manage the art get the file I'm done I'm done yeah manage their
- 1:29:34
artist roster and track splits and payments Venice also has a premium
- 1:29:39
Services team for playlisting and strategic Creative Marketing available upon requests
- 1:29:45
I'm taking a smoke yeah hey y'all leave me the [ __ ] alone with this [ __ ] all
- 1:29:51
right yo what the [ __ ] and I say that with all due respect to Jay Irving and Troy Carter please don't
- 1:29:57
misconstrue what I'm saying I [ __ ] with them no it's just it makes [ __ ] I [ __ ] with them but you [ __ ] with them because they both
- 1:30:04
are so reputable and then you just understand yeah there you go they're doing their job well absolutely
- 1:30:11
you know what I'm saying like for the future of Music a lot of these music companies
- 1:30:18
are tech companies yeah you got it so if you have one of those you're trending in
- 1:30:25
the right direction for music in the future and the sad truth is if you don't have one of those then you're doing some
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prehistoric [ __ ] it's like they say to all the content creators if you're not on Tick Tock then you're doing dinosaur [ __ ] it's the same thing in this I mean
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you get it and if you don't then it's not time for you to get it yet but I understand it now we have a big beef
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Brewing here in studio come on look at our spice up the segment exactly yeah spice some [ __ ] up wake it
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up get the [ __ ] up man it's too cold no we here [ __ ] cayenne pepper Neo sat
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somewhere see that's why it's Cloud Chase area you don't even know where he's at dead ass you have no idea where he is
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where is he I'm listening yo before I comment good
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Neo sat somewhere and said that he did not sign lucky day
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because he let lucky day stay in the crib and he went out of town one day told him that have a blast mi casa
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yukasa just don't go in my master bedroom and lucky Dave win his master bedroom
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[ __ ] some chick in his bed yeah [ __ ] I'm Neo now I'm neon it's my lucky day
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please hey I still got it taking the Zach on the road
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my show come to the moment how soon I had about nine things to spin off of that go ahead I'm listening go ahead and
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spend it look tuck your tail look tuck your tail tuck this tail let me out all
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right ice says this is clout Chasey which is also marketing it says he doesn't quite view
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Cloud this to be Cloud chasing which side would you like to hear from first
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fish my definition of cloud Tracy is like when you're just doing some real extra
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[ __ ] to be seen you know what I'm saying like you having a story or you telling the story you got an album coming out so
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of course you're gonna do interviews and you're gonna work the circuit so the conversation could go anywhere
- 1:32:26
so that kind of some let me give you an example because I didn't hear the whole interview I only saw that particular excerpt but let's just say
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hypothetically they said hypothetically they said hey who are you feeling now he
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could have said lucky day and then told the lucky day story I don't I don't look at that it's Cloud
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Chasey I just think that that's a story that popped up and Cloud Chase he should have to me is just being real real extra
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can I all right can I ask a question sure who are you feeling right now and he
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answers Lucky Day correct does that generate a headline that answers the question
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no no let's say he is feeling lucky day like I like his music but does that generate a headline like this no right
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so now me going a step further and telling this Lucky Day story which will
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now generate as we see a headline that's where the cloud this has nothing to do with anything even if they ask you yo
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what do you think about lucky day the clout Chasey part like you said Cloud Chasey to you means extra
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that's the definition of an extra story no it's got nothing to do with no
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interview and no interviewer could have asked it because we didn't know we didn't know you volunteered some extra
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information juicy [ __ ] wait juicy [ __ ] see because you gotta add that factor in
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that context Neo is from the school of Patti LaBelle and [ __ ] Whitney Houston in terms of the media Market
- 1:33:50
Savvy training like he's getting he's getting the questions before they you send them what we talking about before
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that camera got on so you're not just gonna shock him you're saying this is someone who's interviewed Neo one thousand percent Neo you can't get him
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tripping when I sat with him and asked him about the uh brimless whatever he
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was wearing at the time he expected the question and knew that that was the
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headline these people that are good they know what a headline is and how to
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generate them that's what he did he didn't have to do that and you don't have to do it when
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your album is coming out and lucky day album just came out that's what make it that's that's the part that made it
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Cloud Chasey to me knowing the album that lucky they put out knowing the reception it got knowing where it placed
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him you saying his name with a with a like Joe said a juicy story makes it Cloud
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Chasey because now it's gonna grab attention now you've got attention on your interview that you probably not I
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ain't seen no other headlines from this interview and it did in fact grab attention and it worked yeah and I'm not
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gonna say this about Neo because his pen and hand should be in a Hall of Fame somewhere so he has proved himself but
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there is an entire culture of trying to get attention from anything outside of
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your actual talent outside of your music see that's the way I disagree with what you said hey I'm
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doing an album I gotta go on my promo and press run we got to have a conversation well you're right and if we
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can't have 20 conversations about your album where it came from whose feature
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what's inspired what does it mean to you what do you want to do next then we bout to say some [ __ ] I mean
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that's but that's the generation that we're in but we don't
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but we sat here and talked a whole bunch of other funny [ __ ] that's us I'm giving anything and that's them I
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know it's a bad example no it's not it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a conversation that was had amongst people
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and some of the [ __ ] that we talked about wasn't necessarily pertaining to their album that caught the headlines
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and that was funny dope [ __ ] like what [ __ ] I didn't see none it was
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definitely something I didn't see a one generated anywhere outside of this network yeah
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I didn't see no other place the one with Jim Jones said he'll smoke
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away Banks boots that made that that did not just get put out by us that was definitely it didn't get put
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out by any other top tier mediums I don't know about the tops and the bottoms I just know I saw other places
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and it wasn't put out by us Jim didn't sit down here during album
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week and say yo this is what happened with me and Freddie Gibbs no he didn't and we didn't ask him I'm just giving
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you an example of something you asked me to tell you something that got out to the blocks I did
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that's all again we just got different definitions of cloud chasing yeah because it ain't
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like he sat there and told us a story that nobody knew cool Jim he didn't sit
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there and tell us a story that nobody knew involving he didn't and that that's what I'm saying no I didn't say I'm saying that I I didn't think what Jim
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did was Cloud Chasey at all I'm saying me my definition of cloud Tracy is just different
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so but just so we all I mean we'll leave this alone but I'm not sure y'all argue
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whack I'm I mean there's degrees of clout chasing because
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I do I think that there is uh telling a funny story on a podcast
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I think that's a thing yeah okay I don't think that's Cloud chasing you can tell any funny story you want about you
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the second that you start including other names and other famous names at that then you know what you're doing
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that monetizes off of headlines and other people's names and work and I'm
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sure and Neil don't have to do that he don't have to do that but again I'm not mad that he did it I'm just calling it
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for what it is well does it doesn't he yeah me neither I'm not mad I'm not mad I'm mad he didn't tell us how he got his
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bed back [ __ ] what you did no I mean we're talking about we're just talking about the the fact that music companies are
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delving into technology artists and people are adapting into not technology
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but personality talk Talking true so I mean that kind of for me to accept
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that I would have to condone this poor people ignorant just low-hanging
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fruit thinking if I were to accept that that's exactly what the chameleon universe is
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about actually that's what the chameleonaire verse is about but why do we have to do that why we can't get into Tech
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that is my direct response I don't have to try to adapt to the tech
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I could try to get in somehow like Chamillionaire and a few others did if
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you really sit here with Jim Hill then getting his crypto back oh forget it he'll go off like artists are trying to
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tap into other things and other places and other spaces economic back when he says the
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same thing and y'all argue with me I don't understand what you're saying yo I'm trying to get the back explain what you're saying what are you saying good
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I'm I'm agreeing with chameleon I think that if you're an artist in today's
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um climate you gotta acclimate to some of the stuff that's going on if you're an artist you got to figure out how to get in touch even even if you are as big
- 1:39:29
as a Neo you still gotta figure out how to move around so if you're on a podcast because again
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a podcast ain't even an interview also like a podcast is more than just a radio interview at HOT97 or Pal 105. the
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podcast is more conversations it goes everywhere especially when we interview people it goes everywhere we start
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talking about [ __ ] Mamas and your father was this and your uncle was that like we get it in so I can see that's
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I'm sorry my bad I didn't mean to cut you off but that's because we don't chase the salacious headline true no I'm
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just saying but conversation in conversation even with us when we talk to each other and we know each other it
- 1:40:06
pivots a lot that's true so certain stories could potentially come up depending on where the conversation you
- 1:40:11
could go off on the tangent I guess succeed in its entirety to see how the lucky day that would be important to me
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and also seeing who disseminated it because this is not a in no disrespect
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to the gentleman of the podcast but this doesn't appear to be a podcast I'm familiar with I don't think anybody in this room is familiar with this podcast
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what this emanated me uh did Neo take this one little piece and put it on his
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page because he knew it worked then I would say or did the podcast do they have a
- 1:40:39
connection with someone took that one little piece and and then went around and they ran with it and pushed it
- 1:40:46
then it could be something totally because there's probably things that happen on our interviews that someone could take and chop up and make
- 1:40:51
salacious but we don't really do that [ __ ] yeah that's true that's true you can't edit what you don't give true also
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true and he gave it true he did knowing they could edit and someone who knows the game and knows
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the media game as well as he does yeah but I don't care his album's fire yeah I
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don't care again it don't hurt anybody it don't affect anybody I just feel like when the topic first came up it said
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it's marketing I'm even telling that story is marketing I'm I agree
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it's Cloud Chasey but it's still marketing I'm not mad at it especially if the product is good and more
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importantly let me just let you know Neil at least six different times I've left
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and told a [ __ ] hold it down just don't go in my bedroom then that's the first that's the first place to go
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[Music] there's also levels of cloud chasing
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because I would not put this on the same level as some of the uh redacted things that redacted does or redacted or
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redacted any of these people that do like the most foul flagrant for sure crazy [ __ ] in the world
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object I love all the arguing with parks Cloud chasing and I'm going over what
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you just said yeah that's not up to how you receive the ACT okay
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right like you just said like give me an example of that it's a homeboy that went
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to the uh uh murals and yeah posted up with a bunch of security guards in a
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place that he had beef with the kid or whatever it was and disrespected it's definitely that's like some that's
- 1:42:55
a different level of Cloud chasing than saying lucky day at 20 something was [ __ ] a girl in my bed and he was my man and he gave him props
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yo he wrote Jamie Foxx's verse on uh the remix with fast he also made it clearly yo he was he was young this is
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mad years ago this is 20 something years or 10 years ago whatever the [ __ ] it was like he made sure like yo this is not
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lucky day of today this is lucky day a long time ago no don't tell me about it today
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especially you know again I think there's like this is somebody that's in that same Lane who has a project that
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was just put out that was received the way it was received so yes you saying his name is gonna generate some type of
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attention trundy that that that part to me is what makes it Cloud Chasey and again not all
- 1:43:39
Cloud chasing is bad I'm not mad at it I am not I don't think he's out here yo what could I say to get
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a headline no I'm not saying it in in that sense but I knew what was going to happen when I told that story
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that's all Trinity which makes it culture now you gotta have a verses against lucky day
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yeah it'd be a bad day a lucky worse day will not be lucky that
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day no it'd be worse than that that [ __ ] black cat across his path he's so
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unlucky crazy they are in different um generation whatever it is they better
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stay different Generations all right so don't put their names together then I didn't eat it
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them two names together if you don't say it that's how thoughts work ain't nobody think of them two together
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in the verses but you and you was joking you knew better you knew better you were Cloud chasing what
- 1:44:42
y'all think lucky day was trying to do getting in his bed [ __ ] that girl the verses
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that was a versus if you tell me not to go in your bedroom
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and [ __ ] in there and you catch me what you think this is It's amazing you'll be
- 1:45:06
hitting it like this in this [ __ ] you ain't make that bad move like that man my fingerprints on your headboard
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though what you about to do about it what you got to do about it condom in this bedside garbage condo I know it my false news
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facts
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the car yeah you're not supposed to [ __ ] in a car restaurant at all all right yo that
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was you over there at uh Brooklyn Chop House huh wasn't me yeah they wasn't even in the bathroom you [ __ ]
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restaurants
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and New York's restaurant the club week is coming yeah nah you might go Club
- 1:46:12
bathroom well I guess it depends on the club it definitely depends on the club because some of them Club bathrooms crazy it depends on the amount of
- 1:46:18
alcohol in your system what kind of alcohol too there you go too much kill you have your you killing
- 1:46:24
it anyway all right so what else is important or
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unimportant for that matter I have some unimportant too but I don't need to throw it out there just yet I'm not here I'm ready for your unimportant
- 1:46:36
I have an unimportant one let me hear yours let's go first let's hear yours they're putting contraceptives for squirrels out in the public
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they taking the nuts from this girl and this is in this Roe v Wade
- 1:46:51
environment we live in they're secretly drugging the squirrels with birth control a lot of squirrels can't [ __ ]
- 1:46:57
the squirrel's just trying to get a dog they can't get the nut you know that's correct I always knew this was the
- 1:47:03
future of podcasts no I'm really [ __ ] up over this what's wrong with the squirrels [ __ ] and I knew we'd be the
- 1:47:09
ones to take it it might be too many of them what was the headline way to say that the scientists design
- 1:47:15
contraceptives to limit gray squirrels oh maybe your girl is a
- 1:47:22
scientists
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oh [ __ ] you think that dicks is too big to be great yeah
- 1:47:33
I don't understand this somebody explained apparently the squirrels are in fact over properly they're
- 1:47:38
overpopulated so they trying to control the population so they giving them
- 1:47:45
all right all right I want to put the tinfoil hat on but if they're doing that to the squirrels and they've been saying
- 1:47:52
they're making them overpopulated come on dog it's just a test to see if it's gonna work
- 1:47:58
um and then y'all every day stay away from the acorns ATS can't get ready to
- 1:48:03
bleep me out every day I think the vaccine was more and more [ __ ] you read my mind thank you for bleeping
- 1:48:10
me out your immune system can't beat yeah
- 1:48:17
how they know it's coming
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[Music]
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don't push me
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a couple weeks ago she's like um yo so you hear they saying in New York
- 1:49:03
everybody needs to wear their masks and everything indoors and Outdoors I'm like why she's like because there's a new
- 1:49:09
string coming out now she was like well I don't have to worry about it because I just had Kobe so I'm
- 1:49:15
good for about 90 days I should have immunity I said but if it's a new stray and you ain't been exposed to that you
- 1:49:21
might be [ __ ] up that is that what it is
- 1:49:28
that's what it is oh [ __ ] the boss is here is that is that what it is
- 1:49:34
oh man oh my God what's going on oh man got
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some company let me stand up again give this guy a hug
- 1:49:47
how are you keep some fly [ __ ] on I know that [ __ ] hope don't play oh I know you keep some uh exclusive [ __ ] on
- 1:49:54
man hey what's good boy
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move my [ __ ] put this back here
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oh man this isn't this is amazing chill out now you might have come sit right
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down do you feel do you feel pressure because uh currently do I feel pressure because
- 1:50:22
whole Bane he manages your your coat yeah me I don't know who Hove a man
- 1:50:30
it's old it's not it's not even real look good to me
- 1:50:39
so you had some unimportant news uh yeah yeah what are your unimportant news that was very unimportant yeah but somehow
- 1:50:45
very important all right unimportant news by Joseph Anthony button Jr I don't
- 1:50:51
know if I could beat parks Parks might have won this one I think he did Mark one because that [ __ ] was important I think Parks won this one though that
- 1:50:57
[ __ ] was important though so yours could really be unimportant and you can still win I still got a shot got a shot
- 1:51:05
all right dig deeper pause well unpause
- 1:51:10
speaking oh [ __ ] of digging deeper I went on Instagram posted a funny
- 1:51:18
little meme I thought it was hilarious it resonated with me I identified with
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it and I laughed for a long time screaming I don't need you to try to emphasize my story the [ __ ] out of here
- 1:51:31
searching around on the screen at some point I will okay and then you'll search okay gotcha and I put up a little Meme
- 1:51:37
and it said it's a picture of a baby and he said this is me at 2 A.M
- 1:51:45
looking at the little Indian [ __ ] build a pool I'm just putting a round of applause for
- 1:51:51
our guest that has joined us not to Indian [ __ ] and them right we're gonna
- 1:51:56
introduce our Colony it was a horrible introduction I'm gonna introduce him correctly right after this very unimportant story that you will have to
- 1:52:03
sit through for two seconds and a lot of people hit me back and
- 1:52:08
laughed I seen them too they be wildling sir but then it was one dude
- 1:52:15
it [ __ ] your head said hey you've seen the story going around about them [ __ ] being a fake right it
- 1:52:21
wasn't our God was it and then somebody else popped up so you're all over twitch they're saying
- 1:52:28
these [ __ ] is frauds I said you were a liar send me a link
- 1:52:34
and they send a link send the link it says that our primitive little guys are out there perpetrating a
- 1:52:42
fraud and lying they provided visual proof
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they said these are teams of 10 12 15 people out there doing digging with
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industrial machines oh [ __ ] they got a backhoe out there yeah they
- 1:52:59
saw them some of these videos you could see the third [ __ ] hiding in the side over there they said the little sticks
- 1:53:06
they use and they show the stick marks when they dig in you can see the machine marks right next to it like it's they
- 1:53:14
said you're supposed to call that place I [ __ ] with them little [ __ ] I seem to make a pool in Africa in the middle of
- 1:53:20
the desert now they also said [ __ ] made an oven now I thought something was funny about this I did think something
- 1:53:27
was funny because there's about 20 of them primitive pages and they all do over 50 million and these two little
- 1:53:33
dudes I don't know I don't know if they was doing all that I thought they were some backing I just didn't know so they
- 1:53:39
went on to explain how most of those spots where they build that are privately owned is privately owned land
- 1:53:45
oh [ __ ] they probably buy the developers or buy a company X such and such
- 1:53:50
and they just broke this whole thing down and made me feel really stupid for believing that these two dudes were
- 1:53:56
actually doing all of that digging and making pools with no water supply I
- 1:54:02
don't know if any of y'all have ever even attempted to dig a hole before that's a big ass [ __ ] hole shout out to the scare me yo they also they also
- 1:54:08
brought up that okay water and mud is not how you make cements [Music]
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damn I'm just telling you watch it for yourself Erickson I'll send you the
- 1:54:20
proof vid but just like Santa Claus is not real the little South Korean Indian dudes
- 1:54:27
building pools and [ __ ] is not real I'm really sad I was very sad about that not
- 1:54:32
now not shocked now shout out to the scammers man everybody shut the [ __ ] up
- 1:54:39
huh turning it on now let's go
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now let's go you picked you elves um
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we have yo dog I'm just trying to introduce you heard that [ __ ] a guest of
- 1:54:57
mine yeah you like that [ __ ] we have the man put the [ __ ] hate the blockers
- 1:55:04
the legend The Hermit himself
- 1:55:09
I think last time I saw this guy was the passport office they suspended my [ __ ] for child support
- 1:55:17
I couldn't make my little London run wherever I was going going as oh [ __ ] Lloyd Banks is in here always bump into
- 1:55:24
this guy at the weirdest of places it doesn't come out but he's here today
- 1:55:31
and he's a very humble man but I ain't so imma talk [ __ ] and pretend that is
- 1:55:37
him and we're gonna spice this up a little bit two weeks ago on the way here Lloyd
- 1:55:44
Banks ice asked me what guaranteed Point Lloyd Banks has
- 1:55:54
didn't even gotta acknowledge Him right now I could not believe that's some
- 1:56:00
sunglasses he said that he asked me if the victory freestyle was a guaranteed point it is
- 1:56:07
that's what I said against I'm not asking [ __ ] inside [ __ ] don't do that I'm not
- 1:56:15
asking you nothing all right I Not only was there for this I was
- 1:56:22
outside right I wanted to see this [ __ ] when it's dropped man oh my God if I
- 1:56:27
wanted I'm gonna have it ladies and gentlemen gentlemen
- 1:56:32
trying to start plk himself
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don't sing the words don't sing it now [ __ ]
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sing Dipset Anthem [ __ ] shout out to Master P I had them
- 1:56:50
sneakers too I kind of can't cut this off once it come on no no no no ice
- 1:56:56
we're not here to be friendly with you yo we're not here for that yes
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[Music] [Applause]
- 1:57:15
ladies and gentlemen we have Lloyd Banks plk himself here on the couch
- 1:57:24
I begged for this man to pay a visit for years pause hovane thank you
- 1:57:31
super manager him [ __ ] himself We Appreciate You Banks to my credit I
- 1:57:37
haven't been anywhere else oh yeah yeah I know I was watching I was looking at that I'm looking around that's for one
- 1:57:44
for two this is the first stop let's go
- 1:57:53
now I appreciate that being that I have some really disrespectful co-hosts or at
- 1:57:58
least one claims to be your friend too I think now I don't know but I don't like that about
- 1:58:03
[ __ ] like when the artists come and I've seen it before like [ __ ] switch it up sometimes I'm still standing where
- 1:58:10
I stand well where where where I said y'all know
- 1:58:15
what I said I don't know what you say this face say it to his face now [ __ ]
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yeah that's what being outside is like shut up
- 1:58:27
all right what's going on Jim sat here these are cool Jim sat here and said he
- 1:58:33
would clean you up in the verses no I started it with jewels yeah right didn't start with Jim well we were
- 1:58:39
talking about the yeah the the [ __ ] was tossing it back and forth It's Juelz versus juice Joelle said he was looking
- 1:58:44
for you right uh and he totally disregarded Memphis Bleak I took offense to that because we all [ __ ] with Bleak
- 1:58:50
so that was the conversation uh but we eventually got back to Jules and Banks I asked everybody to pick a winner uh ice
- 1:58:56
picked his I don't remember theirs but I was a little confused by it so then when we had Jim here
- 1:59:02
and Maino I asked him just shits and giggles he supported his man like he was
- 1:59:08
supposed to and he said that he would be Victorious and I was like
- 1:59:13
maybe this is like the Brent album and I'm just in my own [ __ ] world here
- 1:59:19
why do you think people have you [ __ ] up this way because I played yo no cop don't please
- 1:59:26
I'm not coming to please let me talk I've been trying to talk I can't explain it I can explain you're trying to talk
- 1:59:32
now I've said when Jim said that I agree with Jim I have Jim winning that versus
- 1:59:38
I'ma say it the man is sitting right here Jim has
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better plant your feet
- 1:59:50
I ain't saying it's a mop but I got Jim winning numbers why you think people got you [ __ ] up this way and do you think people got you [ __ ] up
- 1:59:57
I think the the correct question is do I give a [ __ ] no the answers
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I don't really don't care I think people know that about you yeah I do think
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people know that with that being said we can't go back and uh and change history
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um you know what I mean I landed where I'm at right here this day from the animal I was when I came into the game
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but everybody's entitled to their opinion you know this [ __ ] talk it's like The Godfather
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everybody's entitled to this I'm not going you know what I mean you're supposed to feel like that exactly absolutely but um yeah
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would you put your money on it um there's the question
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Jim will do it I still got your winning yes I think when it comes down to
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like they brought up uh Karma as like a daily guaranteed point
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what's beating it some in Miami is going to beat that no some of Miami's gonna beat that
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I thought there was a better answer okay
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this is what I go through Hey listen I if you was gonna pull some dips at Anthem or something yeah I mean like I'd
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be like oh yeah I mean that's that's a tough one-to-one hey it's his opinion Brothers my opinion
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yeah yeah I just think I think versus is something different I think that nobody in their right mind gonna say that Jim
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could rap better than Lloyd Banks nobody right respectfully yeah yeah no but as
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far as a versus goes it's other [ __ ] that goes into a verses we just saw Mario smoke a Marion's boots
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based on it's based off performance based off his performance
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that's not where you gonna like it no no no wait wait wait you've seen me before yeah
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so you hold the last time you did it was it sold out it was sold out okay he said you ain't lose your brother exactly did
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I give this problem I said yo that's the one thing when I thought about it real quick I said I was like you know what he
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said yeah recently an hour and a half and he went straight through and I said if that
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Banks is on that versus stage versus what I saw in the Dipset versus
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it's gonna go different I think a lot of things go down I said depends on if the 40 years old can I hear from him
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that if doesn't even really make sense to me did you see a hey man up there no it's been that way for 20 years
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so if you're asking me if I'm gonna be that guy I'm that guy every show
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whether it's 2500 people 25 000 people 50 000 people I've been in front of 70
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000 people my voice reaches all the way in the back so when they were asked when
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they were asking me about your biggest records or what your guaranteed points were I'm I'm unable to answer it because
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I spent my youth hating on you like when you was catching them joints
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out the bar [ __ ] tell that [ __ ] video but I would assume Carmen's one of them
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oh yeah but just like I mean metric wise I'm not I don't mean like opinion like which
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records have performed a bit like I like I love starting up yeah started up I think would be yeah
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I don't know a big record but coma is one of them
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joints I performed that record Russia that's your Timeless Universe yeah like that's it that's any crowd
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record yeah it don't matter where you drop that they're going to sing along with it and this is the part that a lot of
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people don't factor in with me and my records I wrote them all
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I think so I feel like you better wrote some other things too when you hear the that yeah but when you hear the choruses
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from you know Avon or the Kerry hilsons and he's the Jeremiah's I wrote All That
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the whole song so that has to factor into these years as well [Music]
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all right so you got an album coming out Friday we'll get to that right we both
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got signed way back when and now here we are tell me about everything that happened in between
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well you would sound before me yeah yeah I got slime first that's why I was hating
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it's crazy because on the way over here you know obeying was playing like some
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of the the older freestyles uh only four star tapes and stuff and um I remember
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the first time I heard you it was on that freestyle over that freeway uh Beanie Siegel beat what we do
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right one two oh no uh coming for you coming for you that was the first time I heard you I believe I forgot what it
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must have been a coupe tape right maybe that that circulated in Queens before clue played it oh no it was a
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clue today it's like either one or two I was like and at that point I was mad in my you
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know in my head like damn I need that spot don't be mad when I'm broke [ __ ] I was still trying to brother he was broke
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I was beyond no no see that was the good old days that was the that was I missed that man
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that was a crazy town man don't you miss mixtapes yeah hell yeah I took him for granted at the time too
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because at some point I was kind of tired of them you know what I'm saying I wanted albums y'all both of y'all on
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this couch I was like damn I want to hear like albums the whole album I did was so far fetched yeah for people like
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me at that time yeah and me right like to even think that I was gonna have an album that the world would hit yeah I
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didn't even see past the 25 block radius right along the world right case in
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point first time I went to flex and did that freestyle that legendary freestyle first time G-Unit went up there
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it's all new material I'm I'm actually you remember that one I'm trying to you remember that one
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remember I'm trying to put it together on the ride there that's why if you go back and listen it's a few stumbles
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because it was all new raps yeah but y'all killed them stumbles in my mind my hood heard my raps already that I've
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done on those mixtapes so old or something so you couldn't do it so I felt like I couldn't hear forgetting how many listeners in New York yeah I mean
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millions and I'm worried about my 25 block radius I think a lot of people get
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caught up in that though even today like yo this [ __ ] is old whatever whatever cause you played for your homies not a
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lot of people because a lot of people don't have that much material to be able to you know improvise and say scrap
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these 10 verses I'm gonna write 10 more between yesterday and today and I'm gonna go up there and and my memory
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worked a little better then and I still was stumbling but it actually to anybody
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who you know wants to get to that platform it actually felt like you were talking to seven million people you know
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what I mean like when this mic goes hot yeah you know you know they on other
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side listening right well you should know yeah
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but you got at that point we ain't going nowhere I haven't been nowhere yet you know what I mean we talking about maybe
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Club speed uh exit um and maybe a few others but we didn't go
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anywhere outside of that region and I made sure I I got old on my just doing my hood
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mm-hmm you know from from everybody because that's what we did it for we wanted to even those earlier mixtapes
- 2:07:47
were to get the bragging rights and just the respect from my peer you know people don't I'm not that far removed from
- 2:07:53
school at the point I got shot you talking two or three years later you telling [ __ ] your watch watch watch
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and then it wasn't a long wait would you start rapping oh
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maybe ten that's right nine ten how about you Joe
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start rapping yeah like trying to write one yeah 13 14.
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I was singing it 10. um that makes sense I own a sparrow [ __ ]
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singing in the church to the cigarettes here I started real early man and I was on drugs for cigarettes
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I should have known that question was gonna happen I should have brought my books like I still got my books from
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that moment nfts that Victory [ __ ] I got the pill I still
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got the book wow do you still write [ __ ] I'm still right I mean I [ __ ] with the phone but I'll go back and write just
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for me to have it because what's the point of me having get shot the [ __ ] up or you know what I mean what's the point in having all of
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that if I'ma stop you know what I mean so I'll just keep writing it add it to the collection that [ __ ] dope when you
- 2:08:59
like when you see the [ __ ] that pop you know what I mean right and he scratch it off and then write some new [ __ ] right that shit's dope well y'all got Global
- 2:09:06
quick yeah that's what I'm saying it wasn't it wasn't a lot of time man like I said my
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first show went from you know me actually seeing people I went to school with to just not recognizing anybody you
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know what I mean like just skin complexion you know race everything it's just like damn the women you know what I
- 2:09:26
mean like the first um the first big concert I went to I think it was
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Amazon the subtlest flex of all the coolest
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Flex you know the first like because just to actually watch I forgot I think
- 2:09:46
it was The Eminem Show if I'm not mistaken so I was sort out I was like yeah because Eminem shows were O2 yeah
- 2:09:53
and I watched it from the uh what you call it the Sound Stage so you were
- 2:09:58
signed already 25 000 people 2025 if it was in Jersey it was a lot of [ __ ] people
- 2:10:05
pyro and all that is crazy but you know my my experiences dig back to like I
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said probably around 10 11 years old right the first time the night Tupac actually passed away I
- 2:10:19
was on my way to Nassau Coliseum to see uh Nas the Fugees
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uh Bone Thugs-N-Harmony and on the firm Keith Sweat
- 2:10:32
the the clip kind of went viral with that level when they gave like the moment of silence you know I was there
- 2:10:37
for that wow so on the way there I believe Angie Martinez she was uh announcing it on the radio man
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[ __ ] was crazy the whole like lie everybody was pulled over like nobody was driving everybody pulled over to the
- 2:10:50
sides of the roads and just outside their cars people crying and [ __ ] so we know this on the way to the concert
- 2:10:57
people in the building don't know yet because there ain't no damn internet [Music]
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so we walking in there and we kind of like spreading the word people talking and then when he announced it on that
- 2:11:10
stage like the whole stadium you felt it sink a level sure you know what I mean
- 2:11:15
yeah like just imagine like King Kong just sits on the roof like it felt like that took well we can't understand because we
- 2:11:22
was on the road when Nipsey died yeah it worked and that whole building was heavy that was weird though because Angie was
- 2:11:29
broke up he was crazy Angie was [ __ ] up and it's like it all goes in like
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I actually seen Tupac like even before that you know in Queens performing or
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seeing Fat Joe perfume early on when you're 10 years old starting to rap who
- 2:11:48
did you want to be tricky man because it was different
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stages my TV was uh
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not the [ __ ] on your laptop but my team my TV was the size of this laptop ninja joints right yeah I think all our [ __ ]
- 2:12:07
was about that right unless he was rich you had a maybe 27 inch tops right
- 2:12:14
locked into that you know what I mean it was a mixture of that and maybe like at the time maybe like Thundercats or some
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[ __ ] but that's what it was about right there me stuck in that TV watching Rock in
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that [ __ ] video kicking the speaker whenever that [ __ ] came on I'd just be
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on the floor just stuck you know what I mean just waiting for it to come back on so it's between Rakim Slick Rick
- 2:12:39
Play-Doh man cool G Rap Coogi rap too but that's the question
- 2:12:46
for me it was rocking Kane Slick Rick
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Diggy Mouse who impresses you today
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in what way rapping lyrically lyric rapping just rapping and just that's it
- 2:13:06
um and if it's nobody that's fine too no it's it's people out there some of the
- 2:13:12
ugly face comes on when he when you press play I don't get that it's a shame
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I'm Gonna Keep a real [ __ ] if I don't think they're trying to give that that's true right and and it's funny because
- 2:13:24
somebody I was talking about this earlier like I might not even give you that now
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unless I intentionally want to do that because when you're coming in you got that aggression that that that that that
- 2:13:36
honest ignorance right like I have punch lines and things that might have insulted people but it was coming from
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just a very organic place for me you know people like how you think about that [ __ ] yo dog that's just my personality
- 2:13:49
right you know what I mean like it's like this for me but the older I get my content has changed and it's maturing
- 2:13:56
and things so I'm not really going for that so a lot of these artists now
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not a lot of them they reach but a lot of the bigger artists now don't come from the same type of
- 2:14:08
upbringing like even the entrance into this like when I came in it was like this guy uh you know Jadakiss you know
- 2:14:17
what I mean like it was it was competitive about this time you had to but even just a spitter if
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you was just like a spitter regular you know like you could get away with it now right it would have man listen man
- 2:14:29
nah these dogs clue tapes wasn't for play play thanks
- 2:14:36
and tell me when the new clothes used to drop [ __ ] in our Hood used to go get a car wash an outfit and you would rock
- 2:14:42
that [ __ ] tape for the whole week week and a half you would know every [ __ ] lyric I missed that too every
- 2:14:47
lyric on the table I miss like being outside and and hearing the music summer times
- 2:14:54
it's just kind of like you know what I mean yeah everybody's in their own world now back then it was like out of 10
- 2:15:01
people one one person had a a series no just like a Walkman yeah oh yeah oh yeah
- 2:15:08
yeah it wasn't 10 [ __ ] walking down the block for walkmans how old are you at that time no I'm saying that 40. all
- 2:15:15
right now I'm just trying to put it in perspective like the error but you learned tell me about your learning
- 2:15:21
process to make a song then because then you learned it you learned it and got a grip on it quick all right so
- 2:15:29
coming in to mixtapes right like starting from like cut Master C and the
- 2:15:35
clues and uh these jobs Lubes and this is like um even before like bad news
- 2:15:42
dropped and things like that Washington 50. to be perfectly honest with you that I
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was like and he wasn't just like a writer he was an exceptional song so you know what I mean like just
- 2:15:54
conceptually and just sticking to the whole you know what I mean to the subject matter
- 2:16:00
which was like a plus for me because you know you're looking around again it wasn't many like that facts you know
- 2:16:06
like some of the biggest artists weren't the best songwriters yeah he was so
- 2:16:11
everything from uh what a cheat code right [ __ ] so from the intro from the introduction intro
- 2:16:18
what you say in the beginning right uh where to pause a lot of people are not
- 2:16:24
good at that talking [ __ ] with the intro opening bars right so and that's how I write I write in in four bar pieces
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right and my first four is gonna usually be aggressive right it's going
- 2:16:37
it's going to be a line in that first fall yeah second four would be some type of break break down but I might bounce
- 2:16:44
it get bouncy with it right yeah I'm in there now the next four
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it's going to be a little melodic Eco and that's what I got from 50
- 2:16:55
because I was always ball heavy that's why Victory is 50 bars that's why Banks
- 2:17:00
workout is 50 bars because I didn't know structure just throw it off so I was just doing 50 ball verses if it wasn't
- 2:17:06
50 balls I felt like I cheated you and myself see that's the Spinners for men a
- 2:17:13
lot of them for six seven minutes you know what I mean so dog think about
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[ __ ] whole albums now be do you know what's ill on that 60 bars because I never counted the bars on Victory of
- 2:17:25
course that the bpms on Victory make them 50 bars seem like that's true yeah
- 2:17:32
but see that that's a that was something that I adopted along the way of knowing
- 2:17:38
how to it did seem like a long freestyle but it didn't get drawn out because I would hit
- 2:17:44
a pocket where I would change my flow from Banks workout one two but like back to what I was saying
- 2:17:52
um the outros the bridges all of these things I learned from watching him record
- 2:17:58
and they were cheat codes because if I had the illus 16
- 2:18:04
he was still a show because that's the sound of the man clapping that I didn't
- 2:18:09
have that yet you see what I'm saying yeah it still worked right and he was going to get deadly what a combination
- 2:18:16
that is to have someone that can like rap like you could rap and have someone that could put songs together like he could put songs it was crazy what age
- 2:18:23
did y'all uh meet well my introduction
- 2:18:29
you know as Lloyd Banks and and getting down with the crew was probably 18. okay
- 2:18:35
so yeah yeah but I've been he knew about me rapping way before that just my
- 2:18:41
subject matter wasn't there yet I'm still in school you know what I mean I didn't really get there yet and I'm
- 2:18:47
still learning you know what I mean that's the crazy that's that's why I'm in love with the writing process I love
- 2:18:54
this [ __ ] let me show you my phone right now it's perverse every day like thousands of
- 2:19:00
verses you know you write every day I say that all the time
- 2:19:06
the art the the artist right like you could be 60 years old writing poems you
- 2:19:13
might not write raps but poetry is really rapping you know what I'm saying like that's that's what I I ask him all
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the time like yo you don't just be home and to just be doodling and it end up being 40 bars he also has been in a
- 2:19:25
bunker for nine years living off of royalties and Pub I had to get out here and get a job
- 2:19:31
what the [ __ ] are you talking about the poet in you you know what I'm saying
- 2:19:37
like Nick said he write bars every day that's therapeutic for me you know that's just and I asked him the same
- 2:19:42
thing like yo that's not indoor outdoor I just have to do that that's how I get
- 2:19:47
whatever I got going on with me that's how I cope with it you got some good people in your life to give you that space to do that though
- 2:19:54
I mean take it all right so it depends on which all right coming up in the household
- 2:20:00
with like you know siblings and cousins you know how it is back in the day like you know everybody ends up together so
- 2:20:07
we've got two cousins over here two cousins over there you know and just me being in my my room was
- 2:20:13
you know half of the room not even I was about to say you had a room yeah I had a
- 2:20:19
room yeah I had a twin size bed yeah and I just had enough room in that space
- 2:20:25
for me to that's why it's funny because this is the first guy that called me an introvert I didn't even know what [ __ ]
- 2:20:31
which is crazy to me he's one too but he's like he's a public introvert yeah
- 2:20:37
yeah right you can turn it on and off he'd be in the club but he's like it's
- 2:20:44
almost like this Matrix [ __ ] like he just makes the [ __ ] room be something else so it's a strip club but it's a
- 2:20:49
library with a glass of milk and a laptop
- 2:20:55
[Music] I'm putting together plans for the next show all the time right like some people
- 2:21:03
go to Starbucks to work right yeah right things moving around you to kind of get
- 2:21:10
a Vibe I'm total opposite so whether it was by myself the crew I would always Escape go to a room and write three or
- 2:21:19
four records and you know in an hour the most impressed apartment I'm most
- 2:21:24
impressed like lyrical ability to decide and songs to decide with his ability to
- 2:21:29
maintain that over the years that was my next thing it's like to at this age I'm not even talking about back in the day
- 2:21:34
being able to do that but at this time I think it's ridiculous to be able to go crazy in your basement or wherever the [ __ ] you go to right and not be bothered
- 2:21:41
like that's by nothing that's impressive on the people that are around you to be yeah they've tried to pull you out loud
- 2:21:46
cubby hole with gossipy [ __ ] sometimes come up here and watch this show or whatever you know what I mean this [ __ ] is zenful word not to say I'm
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not saying this easy I'm just saying no no I do it enough to where I don't miss that big of a gap you know what I mean
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right I got two kids you know what I mean Daddy Daddy late late night or early
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well all right my my original hours before kids was probably 8 P.M to
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6 a.m right so that whole time I was either writing or recording yeah now
- 2:22:20
it's just like I try to take advantage of those times like my kids go to sleep it might fall out you know 11 12 o'clock
- 2:22:27
I'll catch that time too and then I'll wake up at nine o'clock go to sleep six wake up nine and I'll catch nine to
- 2:22:34
twelve and then outside of that just try whatever else I'm not playing whatever
- 2:22:40
I'm doing but um yeah it's not too hard I just work hard enough for it to be
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effortless you know what do you say kicking it up a notch what do you say to
- 2:22:51
the people that say the job broke up New York unity and Hip-Hop
- 2:23:01
to say about that I mean I think our contributions were so like you know massive it's like you can't
- 2:23:09
have everything the way you want it you know what I mean this this wasn't The Perfect Storm it was just a [ __ ]
- 2:23:14
storm you know what I mean so you got to take the good with the bad and vice versa
- 2:23:20
um I mean [ __ ] you know it's funny they talk about that after like you know if you felt the way at that point then
- 2:23:26
should have did something about it right yeah you know what I mean it wasn't the it was a type it was nothing you could
- 2:23:31
do at that at that point you know what I mean yeah Unity was important and yeah
- 2:23:38
well no no no no no no no no no that's not true because they tried they tried
- 2:23:44
who New York New York record came out they tried and they said to the talent but
- 2:23:52
I'm just saying it and I'm trying to do something came in the game yeah and I'm saying in
- 2:23:59
hindsight once Atlanta took off and [ __ ] saw all of that camaraderie yeah
- 2:24:04
[ __ ] looked back to New York and was like hey why couldn't we do that oh because we was beefing but I can't even
- 2:24:12
put that on that part I can't put on them it's it's New York has always had that competition well they put it in
- 2:24:19
itself timeout just for the people that don't know right they put it on them because 50 was like if you [ __ ] with me
- 2:24:25
you can't [ __ ] with an op and I've got all the New Yorkers but not just that not just that they put it on us because
- 2:24:32
we didn't need to work with anybody at that point aftermath Shady G Unit you can literally
- 2:24:40
get what you needed look at my first album yeah look at my features
- 2:24:47
uh Eminem Nate Dogg Snoop Dogg these are
- 2:24:52
all people that was at Arm's Reach right you feel me so it's not like you were
- 2:24:57
picking from you know what I mean yeah yeah you feel me so anything outside of
- 2:25:03
that it would have been like you know going outside I guess because you just wanted a personal reason why you had that
- 2:25:11
record like my first the first feature I actually went and got from somebody was Prodigy you know what I mean like
- 2:25:17
Prodigy was it for me wrestle PSP yeah well when proud of you passed man that
- 2:25:23
[ __ ] hit me like it did when Biggie passed you know what I mean understandably I
- 2:25:29
love that that guy right there me too like if you look if you look at a lot of my projects He was like on the first
- 2:25:34
[ __ ] record So Not only was he like the king of like the first two balls yeah but he was just
- 2:25:43
necessary in the beginning of a project he was my favorite rapper for several different periods you know what I'm
- 2:25:48
saying like he wasn't I know the infamous backwards say some people here never heard
- 2:25:58
never heard it yeah
- 2:26:10
the second one or the first one see he didn't even know even though they're supposed
- 2:26:21
not for real if you learned Shook Ones from eight mile no I did not Joe a lot
- 2:26:26
of the kids did though the effects yeah and that meat is yeah but that you know
- 2:26:31
rest a piece of Prodigy what's your favorite Bob punchline of yours
- 2:26:38
it's like I know I know it's my job that's what I'm gonna do that's what I'm gonna do that's [ __ ] that's impossible
- 2:26:45
to answer that's impossible to answer or which you delivered your best punchline then
- 2:26:51
whatever yeah oh
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I would say I would say oh too I would say between the victory though
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that time Victory Banks workout one base workout two because that's the way this is before I
- 2:27:09
got you know uh the training you know what I mean that's all I knew how to do that was the way for me to grasp and get
- 2:27:15
the excitement out the audience you know what I mean so once I started getting the song writing and stuff down back
- 2:27:20
then it was like I knew where to pick my punches if that makes sense before that it was just like 28 minutes you know
- 2:27:28
what I mean yeah now I know how to like spread that apart because we doing mixtapes in two sessions so if you're
- 2:27:34
doing eight balls per verse and then 16 songs you know what I'm saying I have to have at least a punch line out each of
- 2:27:40
those eight balls so one versus getting broken down you know what I mean so what would today you say to owe to you
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damn oh I do this [ __ ] yo [ __ ] work well but but that's kind of like a
- 2:27:59
that question is a little gray like what do you mean like as far as this overall personally or musically I
- 2:28:06
mean both well actually you could take it how you want my next question is
- 2:28:12
if today you is in a versus against O2 monster you what do you have today that
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beats that guy that he didn't have stage presence um stage presence I would walk all over me
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literally over earlier we all got to learn how to perform you I was actually shocked by
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your stage presence because hearing you you're the queen even talking to you no you're the coolest guy in the entire [ __ ] world so before I seen you live
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I was like I'm not really sure what to expect here but you get busy I could say I went to this was King University
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this might have been oh four who is that a jersey Jersey Elizabeth
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it was it was a college um show and the performance there versus seeing
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you years later I see exactly what you mean so now you have to go back years prior to when you saw me
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while I was just stiff you know what I mean like cool being cool like I was literally getting
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pushed around that stage in the early the first mixtape shows when we're performing yeah after
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marchetta and Records like that I was literally getting like pushed around because I was
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Frozen you know what I mean the 50 had come and literally like yo move yo come move
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because they were already performing already right not me I was up there like The Temptations like with the mic
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let's give him a little snap and spin you know back then Mike's had chords on
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them yeah right I'm the reason why you trip the reason I
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was a complete [ __ ] I was a [ __ ] up for like the first 10 shows and so you
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know Listen to What a throwback is for the kids Mike's with chords what you know and then it turned into
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I'm not performing if I don't have a call this mic and I still like funniest records it's funny because I could take
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you further than that right back my first performance was a talent show
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and I believe seventh eighth grade me and two of my homies and they had the
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the mics with the stand and everything we didn't even know to take the mic off the stand right so we're just literally
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like you know in front and um
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50 clothes that show out wow that's seventh grade at my junior high school yeah so he was probably uh
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Jen Master Jay at the time track masters one of them yeah and um so he came out
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and if you got love for this hip-hop [ __ ] put your hands in it an old mop punk ass classmates
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[Music] and I'm thinking to myself why the [ __ ] did not think to say that but we didn't
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have nothing to reference that we had no examples of what a live performance was let's think about it yeah at that time
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you watched video music box or some [ __ ] like that you didn't see live performance yeah right like even you
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would hear I got seven Mac 11s about eight but I never saw it right right I just heard it yeah we're roughly the
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same age I was in Upstate New York doing this [ __ ] so we had no idea what a live performers should look so imagine what
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I'm saying to me that [ __ ] me up and then you stole it six years later I'm
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actually signed to the guy in Rocking Out shows all right I'm loading up a tough one again
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in hindsight right now that we're all adults and grown
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because you love R B music I wouldn't say love not like you do not like you in your
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lives I'm a Nut that's interesting I'm more you're very melodic but that's what I mean you are with the incorporating
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The Melodies the melonics you'll get the dope singer like right you you'll combine it
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does any part of you today feel any guilt for how these new people
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look at Ja Rule's catalog so what do you mean
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oh man what do you mean they don't it's like a yo it's it's a serious
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question I know it's a seriously that's gonna be the young this new generation I don't really think holds Ja Rule's
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catalog in its proper place in Hip Hop which generation
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the new ones today [ __ ] I don't think that's true that is very true I don't think that's true it ain't just him that's true it's they don't even hold
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Jay in in the high regard the new generation yeah I've told I've ran down the list what are we gauging this off
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right because now if you look at a lot of the records like um I don't know if you call the drill but
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you know the drill artists that are doing like they'll take a record from almost like covers the early 2000s or something and
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then like Karma could be I was actually in the studio not so long ago and it was a younger artist and he was doing a
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remix to coma like a drill version you know what I mean I like when they do that yeah so all of those records like
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uh you know it's too many to name but in that in that time with the uh the Nellie's and everybody
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who's catalog I was getting ready to say they don't hold I think John A lot of them who were melodic your Nellie's yeah
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I appreciate it I think there was a dip in both of them John and Nelly between
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Maybe 09 and 2015 where people were like this
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is weird or whatever the [ __ ] I think it bounced back though I think people [ __ ] with that but what happens is Nellie's
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Classics are still I'm sorry Nellie's Classics when they come on are still identified and recognized as Classics I
- 2:33:54
still see people request that [ __ ] uh Olympics amongst the kids they got Tick-Tock Bops
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he's got country success I don't know that that's true with ja outside to put it on me and I've heard people say that
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that ain't true don't put it on me what happened so is once you hit that that point like you said after that little
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dip they hit yeah they'll treat you like you would never hot I don't think that's true I'm
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people yo they they will forget quick we'll let the people in the comments so I think your question uh I can't speak
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for you but he said yo do you feel guilty at all
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responsible for any of it no oh man Banks it was on
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man I don't I think I think it's all like fair play you know what I mean like
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because even with G Unit like when you have an impact that strong
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you kind of like we hit our Point too you know what I mean so it's not like they're the only ones affected we're
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affected by the damage as well you know because once you set that ball if you don't get back to that I can't
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reach it all the time you know what I mean yeah so it's like I'll give you a perfect example like around 2000
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eight maybe after yeah around 2008 I started
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seeing [ __ ] like this has been like rap not even all hip-hop.com and hot new hip
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hop and Hip-Hop DX and I was Heavy paying attention to that like reading the comments and I'm I started
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eventually submitting single by single to these people like getting in touch with them who I should contact and
- 2:35:34
sending it to them and I'm reading the comments and it was I would see like 75
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of them were like you know he's a spitter but then it was [ __ ] like yo you fell off watching the same I'm like
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[ __ ] what I could tell you as for what I was one of those what happened was around that time you
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you you you leaned off of the punch lines and started like really getting deep with the rapping no this is before
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that before that this before because I remember that's what happened for me I was like how what else are you talking
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about or what oh he that might be like that might be 12 I'm thinking I'm gonna go around 12 but
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that's what the all or nothing's right around there right because what happened was
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plk Banks yeah unfuckoldable and then it got to a point where it
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wasn't really about the punch lines as much so what happened was like damn that's what we listening for I want to
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hear the punches and he he kind of not saying you didn't have them but you shot
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you know like I'm gonna give you this too it ain't all punch Lines no more like you said before every bar damn near
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was a punch line right and this would be my question to that right who did stick to it
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like you know what I mean like at that point now like can you name somebody who actually did no for me we're Banks it
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was more he wasn't putting [ __ ] out more than like he still would have see like a little record drop here and
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there single here see everybody trying to get past my point I just want them to let you finish
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no so you said nobody did right correct I don't think anybody wanted me to
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it's what happens when we fall alone so you so at some point you have to stop
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listening to your friends right because they'll keep you they'll
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keep you there right they'll keep you right there that's true I called Joe from time to time you know
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because I respect just his whole mindset of what he gonna do when he gonna do it and
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don't give a [ __ ] about what nobody think about it especially when I'm getting ready to transition and make a move too and I would you know just like
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I'm losing my track my track what was we at um
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no that's no reason why I was getting that you said you modified blocking out the noise
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changing okay chain changing switch switching some [ __ ] when people are used to a certain thing from you exactly
- 2:38:07
that's got me right back on track so I spoke to you and you were telling me like when you
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made that decision and why because you know I'm like I'm a writer writer so I I appreciate other writers and I want this
- 2:38:21
guy to rap you know what I mean so when he gave me the reason why I said damn
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right because when I had my kids like I stopped a lot of [ __ ] you know
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what I mean I haven't smoked in six years wow hey you see what I'm saying
- 2:38:39
so like drinking and smoking and things like that it was just I was so proud
- 2:38:44
of that moment you know I've been in the game since you know 18 19 years old all the way up to 34 if I had my first child
- 2:38:53
that was bigger than me than anything you know I'm pretty sure it is for a lot of parents but for me in particular
- 2:38:58
I was like [ __ ] I hate thing yup everything I gave you bastards 15 years I mean why are you getting these
- 2:39:05
comments and tell them what you want me to do when they start in the third [ __ ] what's my daughter's name
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um do you know that because if you don't I'm not really concerned you know what I
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mean so it's like I really got into that mode where I wanted to make powerful music
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right so and not to blame it on him but it was like
- 2:39:30
he was the tail end of what kind of pissed me off like it was a point in New York where they were saying New York
- 2:39:35
radio didn't sound like New York right like all the way that was true and
- 2:39:41
Trinidad James had did some type of Show when he was on the stage and he was saying like how he was in New York and
- 2:39:47
it didn't sound like New York and I'm like wow like this is [ __ ] that you would hear behind closed doors but this [ __ ] really said it I remember publicly
- 2:39:53
I remember I was at that show and at that point I was working on my first installment with DJ Drama
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right so this goes back to answer your question of why I changed
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he said you New Yorkers don't even sound like New York rappers no more at that point I
- 2:40:12
had 18 songs doing my personal rendition of what a trap song would be at that
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time right because when I'm thinking gangster girls I'm thinking this is what you're supposed to do right right it's
- 2:40:23
dramas gangster girls Atlanta yeah so that was the last draw for me I scrapped the whole project she scrapped it
- 2:40:31
records with everybody from you know Dirk and Yo Gotti every whoever was hot
- 2:40:36
you know what I mean damn Trinidad James look what you did yo yeah [ __ ]
- 2:40:42
trouble I scrapped it and then it turned into what we've known as you know all or nothing you know failure is no option
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so when I first dropped it a lot of people were saying like you
- 2:40:54
know this is not what we was expecting right
- 2:40:59
but in my heart I'm feeling like this is the best music I'm making at this point
- 2:41:04
because it's in retrospect it's like really singing something you know what I mean and um so as time went on
- 2:41:12
like if I go over my Twitter right now and I put a poll up and say what do you think my top two projects are yeah they're gonna
- 2:41:20
say cold corner and Aon which is meaning that my fan base well
- 2:41:26
some of them are actually growing up yeah that's a um so we want
- 2:41:32
certain things to happen when we want it to happen like we wanted Floyd and Pacquiao to fight when we wanted them to fight right right we wanted Bad Boys
- 2:41:38
three 20 years ago didn't work out though it just didn't happen that way yeah you see what I'm
- 2:41:44
saying we never wanted to come into America too nobody asked for that [ __ ] yo leave that
- 2:41:50
movie alone hey and they got bad boys four coming for you they got bad boys happening but but but it was a lot to
- 2:41:57
answer your question it was a lot going on with me in in my personal process
- 2:42:03
right so I start the question everything right and just my importance
- 2:42:10
of what I'm really here for and I don't I've never really vocal I'm
- 2:42:16
not the type to go invent I'm not one of them guys and I took a lot of losses you know personally and you know I'm at the
- 2:42:22
cemetery like every Sunday if not you know every other Sunday you know that's why I go to kind of like think and um
- 2:42:30
I've been in some dark dark places you know so I started thinking like okay
- 2:42:37
well at this point I'm gonna be selfish you know and I'm gonna do something that
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when my kids get older they'll hear this side of me and understand I actually was saying something and then I'll get DMS
- 2:42:49
with people like sending like I got a DM yesterday with a with a kid telling me his father kind of put them onto my
- 2:42:55
music and he just passed away and you know and these are the records these are the
- 2:43:01
the projects that resonated more with this whale hit [ __ ] right so if somebody
- 2:43:07
tells me yo Banks oh blue after oh you my [ __ ] those are for the oohs and eyes
- 2:43:13
right then you start getting like daps that turn into hugs and [ __ ] right you know what I mean yeah and I work with
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this guy for a decade yeah right but see and I never told you I went to the cemetery to think
- 2:43:28
what he does is therapeutic too yeah because Joe Joe from early on is not
- 2:43:33
mood music Joe that's two different things you know what I mean so once once that happens you tap into uh uh a pocket
- 2:43:40
where people are related relating to you on a whole another level and now you're running it for something different this
- 2:43:46
[ __ ] is human because I think that's the biggest misconception is that they think we're
- 2:43:52
like remember remember um uh what's the movie uh do the right
- 2:43:57
thing yeah remember you said they're black but they're not like black black mm-hmm
- 2:44:03
right yeah so I started thinking like damn these [ __ ] actually think I'm like
- 2:44:09
some ill [ __ ] man and I probably even been through more
- 2:44:14
you know just trials and triple Aces and [ __ ] then most of them [Music]
- 2:44:20
but you never let it on in the music right but that's just my personality no not music or publicly right right yeah
- 2:44:27
back to that Herman [ __ ] man nobody would ever be able to say what he's really been feeling thinking or experiencing in the last how many years
- 2:44:34
or you know because at the end of the day is none of your business right and I don't want to sway people
- 2:44:40
one way or the other like when you make a decision to go from
- 2:44:45
rap to doing a podcast you have to be in your mind 100 locked into what you're
- 2:44:50
doing right so I have so much I want to do so much I want to say and I figure
- 2:44:57
I'm gonna have to stop rapping too completely unless I learned how to
- 2:45:04
put that into the rap you feel me so that was the whole my whole way of thinking
- 2:45:10
and or on on your point A lot of times I say majority of the times the fans
- 2:45:16
don't really know what they want like how we myself included we'll sit there and say yo we wanted punchline is
- 2:45:22
we wanted this we wanted this and then we get the other project and it's like oh [ __ ] this dope we ain't even know we wanted this from you yeah
- 2:45:33
feds never really know what they want though I hear it even about the Pod they'll say yo we want this we want that
- 2:45:38
and then it's just different fans I just think it's different fans I think a million fans and 500 000 of them like
- 2:45:44
this 300 000 like this 200 000 like this so you'll see different people that that
- 2:45:50
get moved by different [ __ ] and certainly also louder than the other one so also the ones who didn't even know
- 2:45:56
that they would like that because they never expected it from you I'm talking about that fan like I again I use myself
- 2:46:02
as an example I was a huge punchline fan right and when I first heard that first Aon I was like ah this ain't really what
- 2:46:08
I was checking for man but now when I go back I'm like oh [ __ ] this [ __ ] is ill yeah but if every fan is like that then
- 2:46:15
all ideas will die when they're spawned every one of them which is why it's
- 2:46:21
tough that's why they say there's a stubbornness that an artist needs yes right right to everybody else may be
- 2:46:29
stupid and unhealthy and yo this nigga's hard-headed she don't listen to nobody you need it you need it to block out the
- 2:46:36
just all the [ __ ] that you're going to encounter thanks you know I appreciate you know I love you thank you thank you
- 2:46:41
for coming appreciate huge fan I mean what else can I say you already know I
- 2:46:47
feel about you man I'm just glad you're back back out for them [ __ ] yeah appreciate y'all man what up tell them
- 2:46:55
we got the album Friday album Friday yeah album Friday man of course the inevitable too
- 2:47:01
security [Music]
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yes sir is that a safe show yo yeah very very I'm a family man man I can't play
- 2:47:16
around with you [ __ ] so was he my kids that's why I was good to go go to bank show the last one was safe man what you
- 2:47:22
mean like the last few of them before the last one I went to no that's
- 2:47:28
all but that's I ain't going front man you want that now man hold up yeah
- 2:47:35
these artists man like they they dying before they even
- 2:47:40
really feel the love the the genuine love right like they love the idea of
- 2:47:46
the energy you bring right the record is fire they love what comes with it the baggage the woman you know what I mean
- 2:47:51
yeah everybody's going there it was a place to be yeah but [ __ ] still might throw a bottle when they get Restless
- 2:47:57
just to go back to the hood and be like I'm the [ __ ] who threw that bottle [ __ ] show up when you get 15 20 years
- 2:48:03
down man you can stand outside [ __ ] make sure you get home safe
- 2:48:08
yeah you know what I mean yeah like certain [ __ ] get sleeping Jada sleep on the Park Bench word you see what I'm
- 2:48:16
saying [ __ ] that stay there go ahead get a nap
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so it's to that point now as an artist and being in the game so long you know I genuinely appreciate my fans I love them
- 2:48:31
you know I mean I want them to get back home to their kids they didn't have [ __ ] kids when we started off
- 2:48:38
make it home yeah get home safe yeah it's true I agree and
- 2:48:46
and just being relatable like when I you know I come on stage with all the jury and all that [ __ ] on I leave with none
- 2:48:51
of it all none of it on I go up there I got this hat on hmm
- 2:48:58
black T-shirt and what I learned over the years is it makes you more relatable that's true to
- 2:49:05
your fans that's true that it can look like you facts so when they come you know what I mean so if Joe had that wife
- 2:49:11
beat on it's gonna be [ __ ] in the crowd with that wife beat on eventually yeah and I had to to go with it right
- 2:49:17
Eminem come out he got his Nike hat his Jordan bags they would call me a bunch of names if I
- 2:49:24
came out with that thing they call me names now [ __ ] y'all [ __ ] [ __ ] call me I think you're here
- 2:49:34
[ __ ] you little [ __ ] out there I put a little picture up thought I was cute [ __ ] said oh look at look at Pop smoked
- 2:49:43
stupid [Music]
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[Music] yeah I had some fun with this one too yeah
- 2:50:01
ladies and flaws Lloyd Banks we thank them oh my God this
- 2:50:09
was crazy well that's my man though but no no I know I'm talking to ice
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they got their own [ __ ] going on this is actually one of my biggest
- 2:50:23
performance records now one of my biggest performance records I can see how could it not be yeah
- 2:50:30
this [ __ ] show all energy I wrote this one too this [ __ ] had some Heartbeats
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I gotta be honest man Banks is one of my favorite people that was amazing that was no yeah that was great sorry to
- 2:50:47
people listening but we just potted for another two hours in the backyard for rooms that was great
- 2:50:54
he's great yeah I wish I knew a better way to convey that to people but I didn't expect it honestly
- 2:51:01
I know he's a great rapper great artist all that [ __ ] I didn't know that he'd be a great conversationalist like this because he's usually cool
- 2:51:09
no he gave it up you could tell he'll weld the information too just because they was Global artists you see what I'm
- 2:51:16
saying like them [ __ ] wasn't Regional they wasn't even domestic U.S artists because Nicholas was all over the world
- 2:51:21
so his experiences and [ __ ] and just the money he's seen the rooms he's been in is probably crazy
- 2:51:28
and the ability to remain himself and an evolved version of
- 2:51:34
himself and be consistent in that with The Changing Times is remarkable to me
- 2:51:42
like to avoid mess with Street [ __ ] women any of the millions of
- 2:51:49
things police like to be to speak to all the things you just spoke to and avoid all the distractions that exist that's
- 2:51:55
right it's remarkable to me and still be a good human human being like a good
- 2:52:01
dude like a family man the [ __ ] that he talked about that I've been harassing that man
- 2:52:08
for a decade over a decade to just talk
- 2:52:14
he reminded me like early Fab when only the [ __ ] the new Fab knew he was funny because he wouldn't talk he would never
- 2:52:21
let you see no personalities distant guarded that's always been it'll talk
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Nah Nah when I'm ready I'm gonna come talk he came and talked he did
- 2:52:35
even even the talks in the backyard yeah he gave it up great guy man shout out to Banks
- 2:52:42
that was amazing shot to Max for real that was real dope oh all right
- 2:52:49
and it was nostalgic for me man I gotta be honest I like getting around them [ __ ] because it's a small club like he
- 2:52:55
said like so when it's a few [ __ ] from that Club that's like yo man it's like when
- 2:53:02
your dad see [ __ ] he went to high school with 50 years from now [ __ ] man but oh man takes you back
- 2:53:09
glad I beefed with [ __ ] like that yo nah for I'm honored I'm honest
- 2:53:18
to go [ __ ] right yes I mean I don't think you know I get it though if you're gonna be for dudes like at least let it
- 2:53:24
be like good dudes like 20 years 10 years good men yes that you can um make amends with
- 2:53:32
uh drove from that drove from that joke about it laugh joke harken back
- 2:53:39
reminisce maybe get money with in the future like you're glad you beef with [ __ ] like
- 2:53:46
that makes you a lot stronger than beefing with people that are here today going tomorrow too not for nothing
- 2:53:53
last [ __ ] I fought he didn't go to the internet and I said good to be for the guy like that like that's what I mean yeah
- 2:54:01
good man good man good man I'm lucky all right uh all right we gone
- 2:54:07
hopefully you all enjoyed this as much as we enjoyed giving it to you pause
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keep us in your prayers Lord knows we need to be there until the next time I bid you would do farewell adios cerebri
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hasta la vista arvoir so long goodbye remember life is a series of moments and
- 2:54:26
moments pass so let's make this one last as if it's all we have
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do remember it's a whole new crop of young [ __ ] out there that's just finding out that
- 2:54:37
y'all do a podcast
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[Laughter]
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and lastly pocket
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oh we got something up I don't know I think we can figure something out
- 2:55:13
and lastly the baddies insecure the stagnant women want to travel in the closed-minded women want you to teach
- 2:55:19
them things and the young girls want to grow up hey
- 2:55:28
they trying to get grown oh man oh man what was the toys the Toys R Us mascot
- 2:55:35
named Jeffrey hey this ain't for the Jeffrey Jeff they can send his ass back to the desert
- 2:55:42
just kidding jokes hey
- 2:55:47
thank you to Banks shout out to hovane and the fans
- 2:55:53
no I swear last year [Laughter]
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before we leave oh it's being reported out there oh I
- 2:56:07
know exactly that the Jazz have expressed willingness
- 2:56:14
to listen to trades for Donovan Mitchell [Music]
- 2:56:19
not even two seconds later a report came out said the New York Knicks are quickly
- 2:56:26
putting a package together you don't think that package is already put together give them a piece of the garden
- 2:56:32
already oh man it's about to be the worst
- 2:56:38
offensive backward in the world Donovan Mitchell and Jalen Brunson
- 2:56:44
oh man I think me and it's just taller than them oh this is this is scary
- 2:56:50
hey hey to really finish it off let's just have Richard Jefferson uh officiate every Nick game home game this year
- 2:56:57
that'll really drive this one home all right that's all I got
- 2:57:04
we have the New York you think RJ's going in that trade yeah hello
- 2:57:13
RJ JP any other alphabet you want to name are gone [ __ ] RJ bear our draft
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pick that we drafted yeah our third pick yes bye fam I said y'all will send Spike
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bye I don't care all right wait before we leave Patrick Ewing see it and y'all be serious for a
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second guys this is my team Randall Barrett tell me the package y'all what y'all would put together and then we
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leave y'all gonna have to give them a point guard back so one of them good draft picks y'all had last year because y'all drafted two good guards not
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quickly Deuce McBride the young boys I could shoot and Grimes Grimes
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Randall Barrett and some picks huh that's a student
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a football steal for who for Donovan mcnitchell for Diamond Mitchell he says
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to steal give me your package I think you're going to give up a lot of draft picks if you're just giving up them too
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much what would you do with the team but what the next time
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damn near whatever it would take holy [ __ ] all right
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who y'all want yeah here go look it's a roster pull it up I'll send you the link
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so y'all with me you tell me what you want Carmelo thing again ah nah you know why because we gutted the team for
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Carmelo no the pieces that y'all got left is all right yeah y'all picked up yo y'all pieces all right
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who you want y'all y'all forgetting what's I think cam reddish is gonna be a story he might not be a superstar he's in that
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package he's in there I gotta keep cam let me put together the package then we'll get
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out of here Grimes I think they'll get oh man I like him I like him too I think cam reddish is out of here because
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they've been trying to get him out of here definitely true you'll have to include either topping or quickly one of
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them and I think they'll probably want quickly quickly goes
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make too much money how much money does uh Donovan Mitchell make oh Jake uh Jewish Randall got to go Julie's Randall's gone Barrett is gone Grimes I
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think y'all keep cam because cam I think cam still oh and Fournier and that might
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be too much too much money that's too much Mama's got a match that's too much money cam reddish is gonna stay with y'all because he don't make no money oh
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so Fournier is in that that's 18 million and Randall I get this deal I get this deal done without sending bear that's my
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point I think I could do it I think you got they might want better inform you and you're gonna want five first round
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draft picks you only want five first round draft picks and I'm sending RJ Bear Song
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we do dog y'all got a bunch of two threes
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y'all gotta give them away oh fine it's depressing all right you guys bye bye then
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forget it forget we ever potted