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Episode 570

Parental Guidance

Joe Budden Podcast Episode 570, “Parental Guidance,” released October 13, 2022. On this week’s episode, Joe condemns Kanye’s comments towards different communities (14:40). The guys focus on fatherhood and discuss 50 Cent’s child support struggles (41:21) and Fabolous’ relationship with his daughter (1:06:58). Joe asks if the guys can be intimate with a woman who is ticklish (1:26:03). Parks shines light on President Biden’s marijuana reform policy (1:42:09). Part Of The Show makes a return (2:06:11) + MORE! Full transcript and searchable timestamps below.

Parental Guidance

In this episode

  • 14:40On this week’s episode, Joe condemns Kanye’s comments towards different communities
  • 41:21The guys focus on fatherhood and discuss 50 Cent’s child support struggles
  • 1:06:58Fabolous’ relationship with his daughter
  • 1:26:03Joe asks if the guys can be intimate with a woman who is ticklish
  • 1:42:09Parks shines light on President Biden’s marijuana reform policy
  • 2:06:11Part Of The Show makes a return
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Joe Budden Podcast Ep. 570 Transcript

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    the thoughts views and opinions

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    expressed by this podcast is bulleted

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    hosts offer entertainment purposes only

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    I repeat

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    it is not serious

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    it is not real

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    no one is exposing revealing indicting

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    or telling you anything about themselves

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    also we do not encourage you to try this

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    at home

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    we are trained professionals

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    who do not have your best interests at

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    heart

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    or our own

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    so

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    why you ain't get out there and play

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    football because I was in the house

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    watching cartoons

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    catch a little catch no

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    little flag no flag football no no no

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    flag a little flag man flag football was

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    fun yeah go do the facts tackle touch

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    words yeah yeah Madden

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    that too

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    put the money on the table let's go

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    I used to get right out there in the

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    snow no oh that was that was fun

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    it was just cold and look the ground was

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    Frozen crown be hard everything was cold

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    one of them [ __ ] in school y'all said

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    something during the week I ain't like I

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    want to see about this morning that's

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    where you go get all your [ __ ] off

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    yo Damn I Wish I Still spoke to some of

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    my childhood friends what position you

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    play pause

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    all over the place the clown that's what

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    speaking to our childhood friends you

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    see that right remember that right I

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    didn't say nothing but remember that I

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    definitely remember okay

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    no I I did y'all think I don't remember

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    you know I'm doubling down I'm 100

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    doubling down on that [ __ ] are you

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    [ __ ] me oh man if I see one of my

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    childhood friends I feel like I'm doing

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    something wrong today them [ __ ] ain't

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    doing great

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    why are we clubbing together I mean we

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    still ain't cool yeah or that don't mean

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    they still on that I'm cool with mad

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    [ __ ] I don't want to see

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    yeah yeah see don't pop no no no no no

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    no no I just thought about what you said

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    I'm cool I'm talking with man friends

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    that's all right I'm gonna talk about

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    that that's different friends are cool

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    or different I'm not talking about that

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    yeah I got like 20 year friendships yeah

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    I got 38 years I can call the B right

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    now anybody that I like a friend that's

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    what he's talking about yeah oh but I

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    ain't never had any friends

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    don't need a lot

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    if I can go a Debbie and deal on mine

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    what's up with Dilly right sounds good

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    yeah feels good it feels real good

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    actually

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    is at his heart country oh yeah so oh

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    he's at home that's what's up

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    um all right

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    let me start with a little inspirational

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    quote okay come on man all right I'm

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    here today this almost made me cry a

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    little bit up in the house it's about

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    anger in men

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    funny how I post about anger and Men

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    could make a man like tear up a little

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    bit what all right here we go let's

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    start dangerous for our men

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    because men are more likely to fight

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    their way from depression to anger

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    because depression is not a good look

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    [Music]

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    on a brother

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    that's how we say that's what we think

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    and so while people will accept us as

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    women kind of laying back and oh always

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    me and they think that there's something

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    feminine about that and it's not it's

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    still depression but but our cultural

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    perspectives don't accept that for men

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    so depression can hide among women with

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    social stereotypes about them being

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    emotional but it can't hide with men

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    because it'll look weak so he has to

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    fight his way up off of that depressed

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    couch

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    and the only energy he can use to defend

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    himself against your attacks on his

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    masculinity is to fight his way out of

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    depression into a fury

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    here we are

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    when are men dropping like flies when

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    life expectancies at the bottom levels

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    in this country

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    because anger is literally shredding

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    their bodies and their immune system and

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    their productivity which is also so

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    related to how many men Define

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    themselves so if anger snatching both

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    their productivity and their physical

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    strength God

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    yeah

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    we gotta do something

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    she's talking she cooked

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    it's a little too

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    mic check one two one two laid back

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    Vibes right now

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    something like shout out to the first

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    and last time listeners It Go

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    shout out to everybody listening from

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    work

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    anybody listening they happy

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    relationship four bucks

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    [Music]

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    [Applause]

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    [Laughter]

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    [Music]

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    [Applause]

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    microphone check one two what is this

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    what episode is this 570 right welcome

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    to episode 570 of the Joe Budden podcast

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    I'm your humble gracious grateful and

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    highly favored host here with a few

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    really good guys brother issues here

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    Isis here Parks is here Corey is

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    somewhere and the young boys are in the

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    back y'all good back there

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    how's everybody doing great how y'all

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    feeling you brothers look great

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    feeling good man feeling very good how

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    was everyone's weekend

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    uh email text thread

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    uh it's all good yeah it was good it's

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    all good I went to another life summer

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    Dolphins get stumped

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    all right that was a great seats too it

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    was a good game through three quarters

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    and and that NFL concussion protocol

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    kind of [ __ ] us because Teddy

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    Bridgewater was not concussed and that

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    probably shouldn't have been a safety so

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    we're we're doomed right off the first

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    play

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    well I was get back from when you're all

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    sent dude out there concussed to finish

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    the game yeah that's some [ __ ] don't

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    try to send the black guy back back out

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    there now let's be sure

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    well [ __ ] that we want to be positive oh

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    yeah she's all good until someone Pat

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    Mahomes or something like that in the

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    playoff game and it's it's going to be

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    held to pay there's a lot of money on

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    the line that's true who's his backup

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    talk about a stressful job Chad Chad

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    honey

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    Chad Henney is Pat Mahone's backup yes

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    oh they must think that whole they never

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    getting hurt you're not he came in the

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    one playoff game and and held it came

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    right out right now oh no that game that

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    game that game yeah he held down for him

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    yeah I forgot what it was all right so

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    you saw your team get smacked in Med

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    life I did I did how was traffic uh it

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    was not great it was not great we took

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    an Uber in and took a train back the

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    train was miserable it was it was a bad

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    weekend to be moving around because

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    there was the Mets game there was the

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    Jets game and there was Comic-Con the

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    city was a mess yeah Comic Con

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    they don't play

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    they dress up and come out but it was

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    fun going to a game man I do actually

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    kind of prefer watching the game on TV

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    though to the game yeah you can't

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    because when the when they're down there

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    they're down there we had great seats it

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    was great on the 10-yard lines

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    huh Cowboys what about them we got a

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    real Stadium oh he's saying they got the

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    nice screen that no matter where they at

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    you don't matter where the screens

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    it's a little it's different it might be

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    I don't know no matter where you're

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    sitting I've never been to uh you are

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    yeah you've seen that screen right yeah

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    no doubt stop it

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    you've never been there

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    no all jokes aside no I haven't been

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    there Jokers that are not Cowboy fans

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    yeah be like yo y'all did that okay it's

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    like everybody in the league recognizes

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    this I don't know why you had to shove

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    it in Parks his face right now I was

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    telling my man

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    you know what I'm saying it's not

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    shoving in my face you bashing the

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    Giants and Jet Stadium

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    Yeah man they can get bashed too

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    no but yeah I get what you're saying

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    like if you sit in that down this end

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    what's up it was amazing seats when it

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    was right here when they flipped it when

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    they flipped the field

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    Abram traffic

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    tailgating yeah but even uh people

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    dressed up like hot dogs blocking where

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    I'm trying to drive like

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    the bad part the Jersey [ __ ] is it's

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    only one Highway yeah it's just all

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    three you know what I'm saying where's

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    other spots uh it's it's a couple

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    multiple ways in and out and it'll

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    disperse like will I'll give us an

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    example

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    but that's why I don't like going to

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    football games exactly what y'all are

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    describe here yeah yeah that's just here

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    though because like

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    that stadium is in the middle of nowhere

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    yeah the [ __ ] is one you go to some of

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    these other spots they Stadium downtown

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    yeah true everything is right there

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    sounds like a mess but it's still it's

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    still it's still easier to disperse the

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    traffic I am not into the spirit of

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    football enough to bring my spirit there

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    while they're playing

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    that was the fun part

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    tailgating in the parking lot you next

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    we'll be out there two hours

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    fan [ __ ] elbow

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    popcorn all over your wheels and your

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    team getting smacked yeah your team's

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    getting smacked

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    I have a hundred inch TV

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    why am I here that's a good point oh my

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    God and don't get me started on the Mets

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    oh my God what a disappointment

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    what a disappointment I was kind of like

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    when we were leaving the Jets game I was

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    like well maybe the Mets will win it'll

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    be a New York weekend I'm rooting for

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    the Mets to you know go far in the

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    playoffs and then they [ __ ] blow it

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    it's over so yeah they out of here I

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    think I don't watch baseball the Padres

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    sent them home the fathers yo dog let me

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    ask you this do you stand with that

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    system

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    what you mean the play in play out [ __ ]

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    that's three games I like it it used to

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    be myself

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    it's best of three I love it it reminds

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    me of the old NBA best of five

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    I like that for sure it gives the kind

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    of team that can upset you a chance to

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    actually upset you

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    um and not only that it gives teams

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    incentive to finish the season strong

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    which is where the Mets blew this entire

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    thing the match shouldn't have been

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    playing they shouldn't have been here

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    like to explain it to you you should

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    have made the it's like a wild the Mets

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    the Mets were one of the best teams it's

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    like the NBA's uh playing they're

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    playing [ __ ] they got them the Mets were

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    the best team all year okay until the

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    last month yeah

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    um

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    got it so now they become the what are

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    they the four

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    three to four to five through the four I

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    think they would have four something

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    like that so they become the four even

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    if they beat the Padres now you got the

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    Dodgers

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    word because you had one bad moment

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    being like a woman being your number one

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    team and then playing all the bombs or

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    two because that's what the team because

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    that's what the team was built for like

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    that's why you spend all that money on

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    pitching Matt shares would make

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    43 million dollars a year or 33 million

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    dollars a year the Grom makes 25 million

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    dollars a year they shortstop makes 30

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    something million dollars a year the

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    team was just built

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    to contend but if you ain't gonna be

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    there then yeah I get it the Padres

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    spent some money got a few [ __ ] over

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    there yeah Padres

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    they wasn't they was you had to

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    acknowledge them so good for the match

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    bad for the Mets I call my dad of course

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    to ask him what what went wrong if

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    anybody wants to know huh better stop

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    talking

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    well I already said I don't have the

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    Yankees winning no they gonna [ __ ]

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    around and be a judge doorstep no

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    they're gonna they didn't already yeah

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    with the Rolls Royce and some flowers

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    racing some flowers I asked my dad what

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    happened with the Mets and he says he's

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    a baseball Hood he says too many white

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    boys on the match

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    I see where you get it from though now

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    he said you can't win in baseball

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    without [ __ ] some of them you better go

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    to Dr yeah

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    you need to do what I'm here oh [ __ ] man

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    no well and he said uh the pitching the

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    guys they paid all the money to uh it

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    picked real bad times to have slumps to

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    have slumps so but the first reason too

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    many white boys

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    [Laughter]

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    it just sounds funny hearing it though I

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    know exactly what you mean

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    how Duke used to win all them uh

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    basketball games on white boy and move

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    on Space they didn't have a bunch of

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    white boys Duke Duke

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    it's a misconception dog

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    take away Christian Leighton and Danny

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    Ferry

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    don't

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    I'm about to say the [ __ ] that got

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    busy was blacks

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    no they had a lot of white boys over

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    there they had some blacks they always

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    had a few token blacks to get busy but

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    anyway we're not starting this podcast

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    with race

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    and for the rest I'ma start putting a

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    doll in that thing every time I make it

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    about race

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    you don't got enough money

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    you gotta go to the bank you should join

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    me though

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    why I don't do that I'm trying to get

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    off my [ __ ] [ __ ]

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    everybody say yo you say [ __ ] Too Much

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    [ __ ]

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    I agree

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    you too [ __ ] oh I know but now I'm

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    gonna try oh my I'm trying to stop I'm

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    never where would you gentlemen like to

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    begin

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    with your man all right this is my last

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    it's got to be

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    this is my last week my last pod

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    of commentating Kanye of connotating

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    Kanye tating

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    it's my last week ain't gonna do

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    something for Halloween well listen but

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    listen but let's do something for

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    Halloween he back if you think I will be

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    looking at the girls oh you were French

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    maid

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    wow oh you fell on my phone

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    Jessica Rabbit you think I'll be focused

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    on Kanye listen as I said to myself

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    this is the last part I'm talking about

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    Kanye it's snapped snapped in my head

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    that I say this every other year about

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    Kanye West

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    so I recognize the pattern now and

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    that's the important thing so I can't

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    keep I can't just stick to this pattern

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    I have to stop because he's going to try

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    to sell me something soon

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    he's already premiering yeah he's gonna

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    try and sell some music and while I am

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    going to listen to it

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    I'm not I don't have to be a part of the

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    seven eight month nine month lead up

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    roll out I don't I hope Mike Dean put

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    Kanye [ __ ] out with fart on it too

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    for real that should just be the new

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    thing just put the [ __ ] music out with

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    the farts yeah yeah

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    remember like when people used to uh

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    they were bootlegging albums and they

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    had the Z share link and you would click

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    it but it would be [ __ ] it would be

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    pumped up actually pump it up for 80

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    minutes long it'll be uh or on LimeWire

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    when it was Bill Clinton Bill Clinton

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    yeah yeah that should be the new one

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    farts oh you Rick Rolled somebody

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    uh but okay Kanye said some things

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    I'm not repeating what he said

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    [Music]

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    I don't know if I wanted he said it's up

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    for a couple people

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    so he was going Defcon 3 on some folk

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    for a group of people A specific group

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    of people

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    the wrong group of people yeah yeah

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    you know he's been trying to offend

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    everybody and you know who could I piss

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    off all right well here you go

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    he went to the top of the Heat and now I

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    think he stands in that though

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    I really do I think I don't think he

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    stands in anything like that I think he

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    does it all for attention a little video

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    thing everything bro he put out uh the

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    little half hour whatever that was

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    behind the scenes he said something

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    about

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    got to get people riled up and then it's

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    going to disappear and not say anything

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    for a while

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    he said that that's what he does

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    I disagree gented tears Jamie Lee Curtis

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    Jewish people Jamie Lee Curtis is

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    speaking what are you doing

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    this is it's it's I mean it's bad enough

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    that fascism is on the rise around the

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    world but

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    on Twitter on a portal to pour that in

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    as if Jewish people haven't had it hard

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    enough I've interviewed you a number of

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    times I have never seen your eyes well

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    up in Anger like that I literally yeah I

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    woke up and was I thought

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    my grandparents yeah

  • 17:41

    yeah

  • 17:42

    it just it's it's it's just abhorrent

  • 17:45

    it's important Behavior I hope he gets

  • 17:47

    help I hope his children get help from

  • 17:50

    him

  • 17:52

    Jamie Lee Curtis

  • 17:54

    who I like Legend

  • 17:56

    who I like a lot

  • 17:58

    fam

  • 17:59

    I remember that movie

  • 18:02

    can you speak up and what are you

  • 18:03

    laughing

  • 18:05

    my grandparents like fam stop what you

  • 18:09

    mean no

  • 18:11

    that's cool

  • 18:13

    you can't single out an entire group of

  • 18:16

    people race religion Creed and say

  • 18:18

    You're Gonna Go Defcon 3. I'm going to

  • 18:21

    not have some people that are like I

  • 18:23

    totally agree I agree thinking about

  • 18:24

    their grandparents or their whatever

  • 18:26

    their kids whatever it may be if you

  • 18:28

    agree then why doesn't it sound like you

  • 18:29

    agree I'm agreeing that what he said

  • 18:32

    he shouldn't have said you can't

  • 18:35

    and I agree with what happened with them

  • 18:37

    unplugging him from everything I'm with

  • 18:38

    all of that I'm just also

  • 18:42

    number you think she was putting sauce

  • 18:44

    on it yes I don't think she was putting

  • 18:46

    sauce on it but it don't even matter if

  • 18:47

    she is right because once you

  • 18:50

    acknowledge that you shouldn't have done

  • 18:52

    the initial behavior and that that was

  • 18:54

    wrong then you're not responsible for

  • 18:56

    how uh then you're all responsible for

  • 18:58

    how people receive it and if that is hey

  • 19:02

    my grandparents

  • 19:04

    then okay

  • 19:05

    but anyway I'm gonna I'm on the Jew side

  • 19:07

    with this by the way

  • 19:09

    me too I'm on it I'm on I'm on the Jew

  • 19:11

    side they got this one right

  • 19:13

    this is all the way right

  • 19:16

    let me ask you a question

  • 19:18

    did y'all hang out together over the

  • 19:20

    weekend no I didn't know before the BART

  • 19:24

    all right thank god

  • 19:26

    um although the outrage is warranted

  • 19:29

    definitely you can't disrespect some

  • 19:32

    people and

  • 19:34

    um

  • 19:36

    allow it to be cool

  • 19:37

    my whole thing is

  • 19:42

    if he would have said that about a

  • 19:44

    different group of people that may not

  • 19:45

    be as powerful does it get the same

  • 19:48

    media coverage and the same headlines

  • 19:49

    maybe not probably not I'm gonna go a

  • 19:52

    step further and say he knew that which

  • 19:55

    is why he said it about them

  • 19:57

    you get what I'm saying like that's my

  • 19:59

    whole thing like he's been he's wrong

  • 20:01

    let's be the [ __ ] clear he's dead wrong

  • 20:04

    in what he's saying I just need the

  • 20:06

    world to be outraged when somebody

  • 20:08

    points out a different group

  • 20:10

    you know what I'm saying well no because

  • 20:11

    there are some other Jewish people that

  • 20:14

    are saying

  • 20:16

    hey uh he said what he said and

  • 20:19

    everybody else seems Mighty quiet about

  • 20:21

    it it's why is uh and I can pull up

  • 20:24

    where who said it why why is why is it

  • 20:27

    always Jewish people to reply or respond

  • 20:31

    or Express that that's wrong when

  • 20:33

    there's hate against Jewish people same

  • 20:35

    thing that black people say when when uh

  • 20:37

    the same thing happens to us hey why

  • 20:39

    aren't why aren't you guys standing up

  • 20:41

    if you're not standing up for that then

  • 20:42

    you're complicit in it so that's true

  • 20:45

    um no no I'm with it I'm saying he's

  • 20:47

    wrong he should have been unplugged yeah

  • 20:49

    my thing is if he would have said that

  • 20:50

    about other a different group

  • 20:53

    I don't know if we unplug him so so

  • 20:55

    quickly we know because we can't

  • 20:57

    and that's my problem we don't have the

  • 20:59

    power to

  • 21:00

    yeah but it's got to be us it could be a

  • 21:03

    totally different group that's not us

  • 21:04

    it's just they got the power but if and

  • 21:08

    if we did have the power we would unplug

  • 21:10

    them we would unplug his ass we would

  • 21:12

    have been unplugged his ass you are

  • 21:13

    correct so I'm with you we should have

  • 21:15

    we should get some power yeah

  • 21:17

    but I'm totally not mad at the people

  • 21:20

    who have some power shutting your dumb

  • 21:21

    ass up using it because just the other

  • 21:23

    part I said all right this guy seems to

  • 21:26

    be alienating or causing [ __ ] with the

  • 21:29

    street [ __ ]

  • 21:31

    the companies who else I said uh there

  • 21:34

    was a few people I said the Liz oh [ __ ]

  • 21:36

    he just he's checking boxes yeah so

  • 21:39

    what's the final box like who's the

  • 21:41

    final boss on Super Mario when you go

  • 21:42

    through the castle and you my whole

  • 21:45

    thing with that is ice keeps lending to

  • 21:48

    he has an objective

  • 21:50

    um he got something coming out or he

  • 21:53

    rolling something out or he's trying to

  • 21:55

    sell something I don't see how that

  • 21:58

    would be advantageous for him to piss

  • 22:00

    off every single demographic and then

  • 22:03

    come out with a product that I mean he

  • 22:05

    don't because they all talking so and to

  • 22:08

    a lot of these folks that's that don't

  • 22:10

    mean money

  • 22:11

    listen if I'm yay and everything I put

  • 22:13

    out

  • 22:14

    sales all I want y'all to do is talk now

  • 22:17

    that's it that's all I need to get you

  • 22:19

    all to do is talk so I'll say whatever

  • 22:21

    to piss you off whatever to piss you off

  • 22:23

    whatever piss you off whatever piss you

  • 22:24

    off y'all are all gonna talk

  • 22:27

    then I can deliver whatever it is I want

  • 22:29

    to deliver it's not true fam he's been

  • 22:31

    doing it that's not true this is his

  • 22:33

    this is his yeah this is his thing he's

  • 22:36

    been riling up public attention he has

  • 22:39

    not been totally disrespecting every

  • 22:42

    potential group of people in an effort

  • 22:44

    to sell a product damn he put the mega

  • 22:47

    hat on and went and ran right out there

  • 22:49

    slavery was a choice this is disrespect

  • 22:51

    he just added some groups to the list

  • 22:52

    yeah he just adding more people that

  • 22:54

    matters

  • 22:56

    and the sad part is there's a lot of

  • 22:58

    people that will tune into whatever he's

  • 23:00

    dropping next be it uh YouTube or

  • 23:03

    whatever if only to find some more [ __ ]

  • 23:05

    to get mad at him about I know we talk

  • 23:07

    about selling a product

  • 23:08

    that is selling a product I disagree

  • 23:11

    just clicking it it's it's purchasing

  • 23:12

    the product it's not getting the money

  • 23:14

    if he goes and sits with Tucker Carlson

  • 23:17

    he ain't getting the money he's not

  • 23:19

    reaping the benefit to that if I put out

  • 23:21

    a project and people who never knew I

  • 23:23

    was putting out a project until they saw

  • 23:25

    me on Tucker Carlson now knows of this

  • 23:27

    project and I'm saying people go click

  • 23:28

    it guess what I'm reaping the benefits

  • 23:30

    of sitting with Taco Casa yeah I have to

  • 23:33

    disagree with you here we'll see now I

  • 23:36

    will say

  • 23:37

    from my seat I don't know what all of

  • 23:39

    these benefits could be yeah I think

  • 23:42

    this bites him into us I don't think

  • 23:43

    this is so well for him I assume that he

  • 23:47

    sees a benefit

  • 23:48

    because listen everywhere that I have

  • 23:51

    gone over the weekend I'm talking about

  • 23:53

    older white people Korean people young

  • 23:57

    people they were discussing Kanye West

  • 24:00

    right so while I may be tired of it

  • 24:03

    because I'm engulfed in this [ __ ] media

  • 24:06

    and y'all might be tired of this [ __ ]

  • 24:09

    everywhere else his name is buzzing and

  • 24:12

    ringing he's hit now I wouldn't do it

  • 24:16

    I wouldn't do it at all but there has to

  • 24:19

    be some type of game for him I also do

  • 24:21

    think this is littered with a little bit

  • 24:23

    of trolling I do I do I do I think I

  • 24:26

    think some of this is an act I think a

  • 24:28

    lot of it is trolling and I think that I

  • 24:30

    just don't see how and maybe this is my

  • 24:32

    naive brain this is new to me I just

  • 24:35

    don't see how it pans out advantageous

  • 24:37

    to him financially and whatever you're

  • 24:40

    trying to sell you're losing demos like

  • 24:42

    crazy and you're trying to sell a

  • 24:43

    product that's the thing I don't think

  • 24:45

    he's losing demos he's pissing people

  • 24:47

    off

  • 24:48

    he's not losing demos see that's the

  • 24:50

    part of it that's what we disagree at

  • 24:53

    right there but that's I mean you're

  • 24:55

    more well versed in this than me Outrage

  • 24:56

    marketing right like I've seen it myself

  • 24:58

    by mistake I'll say certain things all

  • 25:03

    of my people will be outraged and my

  • 25:05

    audience grows

  • 25:07

    negativity now what I do when that

  • 25:10

    houses how's it different all right let

  • 25:12

    me let me explain Joe runs a media

  • 25:15

    company so in media Howard Stern and

  • 25:19

    Imus set the standard Petey Greene set

  • 25:21

    the standard where people that don't

  • 25:24

    like you they want to hear the ignorance

  • 25:25

    [ __ ] you're going to say Rush Rush

  • 25:27

    Limbaugh Rush another one right they

  • 25:29

    want to hear what you say open Anthony

  • 25:31

    the list is long so

  • 25:36

    in Kanye's stance if he were going to

  • 25:39

    drop music then maybe he's dropping me

  • 25:42

    he's dropping no I'm saying it's no man

  • 25:43

    Drop Music he's 100 dropping music I'm

  • 25:45

    saying maybe it benefits him then I'm

  • 25:47

    talking about with regards to selling

  • 25:49

    physical merchandise and products you

  • 25:52

    are pissing off huge demographics that

  • 25:55

    support your products the black people

  • 25:58

    buy your [ __ ] it's a lot of black people

  • 25:59

    saying I won't never buy a pair of

  • 26:01

    Yeezys again [ __ ] him the jewel people

  • 26:04

    buy your [ __ ] Michael Jordan said money

  • 26:06

    don't see uh what do you say when he's

  • 26:07

    trying to sell them sneakers

  • 26:10

    and Michael Jordan never go out on the

  • 26:13

    limb and say [ __ ] no demographic neither

  • 26:15

    you won't do it of course man I'm with

  • 26:17

    ice yeah well CJ said exactly what he

  • 26:20

    was trying to say in that puff message

  • 26:22

    I'm selling [ __ ] and I'm getting to the

  • 26:24

    money that's all this is

  • 26:26

    all I think it's a miscalculation it

  • 26:29

    remains to be seen it's by any means

  • 26:31

    necessary I don't like it I don't like

  • 26:33

    it either it is it is we're gonna see

  • 26:35

    unfortunately effective in this day and

  • 26:37

    age especially when you're the product

  • 26:39

    that you're he's got a lot of different

  • 26:40

    products but music I see it he's selling

  • 26:43

    himself being this polarizing person and

  • 26:47

    let me say because this has a few fronts

  • 26:49

    uh for me uh

  • 26:53

    wow this [ __ ] appears to be unhinged all

  • 26:56

    of this Behavior

  • 26:57

    I do think that there is a thinking man

  • 27:00

    behind it

  • 27:01

    in the past

  • 27:04

    I haven't always felt that way

  • 27:06

    I haven't always felt like there was a

  • 27:09

    thinking functioning brain behind the

  • 27:11

    action and that's where it got to hey is

  • 27:14

    Kanye's mental health okay how's he

  • 27:17

    doing like you start to see you could

  • 27:19

    see and that's when they was talking

  • 27:20

    about the meds that he was on and off

  • 27:22

    like

  • 27:23

    I don't think he was that great of an

  • 27:25

    actor I believe there to be

  • 27:28

    some disturbance going on then today

  • 27:31

    he looks healthy yo

  • 27:33

    his weight is there his eye pupils are

  • 27:37

    there the skin coloration is there when

  • 27:39

    he ain't purposely trying to look Dusty

  • 27:41

    I'm just saying it don't call in to play

  • 27:43

    his mental health for me uh the people

  • 27:46

    that love him outside of Dame I haven't

  • 27:48

    heard them start screaming hey

  • 27:49

    something's wrong something's wrong like

  • 27:51

    they were last time uh my heart goes out

  • 27:54

    to Kim

  • 27:55

    because the report came out that she now

  • 27:58

    is hiring extra security for the kids

  • 28:00

    and a lot of topics this this show will

  • 28:02

    be centered around kids let me just pull

  • 28:04

    the cat out the bag

  • 28:06

    um

  • 28:07

    as a parent I feel that I don't even

  • 28:10

    think about that part as a parent I feel

  • 28:11

    that right that's the name of the school

  • 28:13

    out there yeah

  • 28:15

    yeah some of that stuff is like an

  • 28:17

    excuse how old is his oldest for me I

  • 28:19

    don't know

  • 28:20

    they're fairly young though

  • 28:23

    big kids man yeah the oldest the oldest

  • 28:26

    is probably she's sevenish nine-ish

  • 28:28

    that's not that young anymore bro nine

  • 28:31

    is old enough that's not that young

  • 28:33

    anymore you are old enough to start

  • 28:35

    knowing who your dad is who your mom is

  • 28:37

    your your your your your schoolmates are

  • 28:40

    talking oh yeah

  • 28:41

    that's not that young anymore my [ __ ]

  • 28:44

    and so when y'all start talking about

  • 28:45

    this calculated mind that is doing all

  • 28:48

    of this stuff if if his calculated brain

  • 28:51

    is telling him to do that then he really

  • 28:53

    needs more help than we think or

  • 28:55

    it's a calculated brain where I'm only

  • 28:58

    out for self

  • 28:59

    so is it really that calculated yes it's

  • 29:02

    extremely calculated I'm only

  • 29:03

    calculating for me though bruh you're

  • 29:06

    calculating wrong yeah yeah I'm not

  • 29:08

    agreeing with it but I'm just saying

  • 29:10

    I still think this [ __ ] knows exactly

  • 29:12

    what he's saying and doing I disagree

  • 29:14

    just don't give a [ __ ] who it hurts yeah

  • 29:17

    his response even to the Jewish [ __ ] was

  • 29:20

    like what did he say I can't be anti

  • 29:23

    anti-semitic because I'm black and

  • 29:24

    blacks the juice the real Jews like a

  • 29:27

    dog

  • 29:32

    oh God oh God I'm not saying a word I'm

  • 29:36

    not saying a word yes I am aware that

  • 29:38

    there are black Jewish people I do not

  • 29:41

    think that that is the appropriate

  • 29:42

    response to

  • 29:45

    that [ __ ] he said it's not that's

  • 29:48

    all I'm saying no that's all I'm saying

  • 29:50

    don't be cousin Walter I didn't say two

  • 29:52

    words

  • 29:55

    that his response makes zero sense

  • 29:57

    because if you feel like the blacks are

  • 30:00

    the original Jews then who you go on

  • 30:01

    Defcon right you sound stupid and this

  • 30:04

    is where I'm talking in riddles and this

  • 30:06

    is to all of my [ __ ] that keep

  • 30:07

    defending him every single time he sits

  • 30:09

    on a public platform he says something

  • 30:11

    totally contradictory or totally

  • 30:13

    different than what he said on the last

  • 30:14

    platform as the justification for the

  • 30:16

    White lives matter shirts yeah he just

  • 30:18

    had like seven different excuses for the

  • 30:21

    White lives matter shirt and I do

  • 30:22

    appreciate that I appreciate that as a

  • 30:24

    media person though that you ain't just

  • 30:27

    giving the same story hey lie over here

  • 30:30

    lie over here everybody

  • 30:40

    is I do not think this next album is

  • 30:42

    going to be better than donda no so like

  • 30:44

    you're doing all this for what what's

  • 30:46

    the mid that little snippet go go [ __ ]

  • 30:48

    with Drake or whatever go [ __ ] the

  • 30:50

    future let me ask you a question yeah

  • 30:51

    was it what didn't sound like some of

  • 30:54

    that other [ __ ] if he if he called you

  • 30:55

    to write for him never he went right for

  • 30:57

    him right I would not I'm just saying

  • 30:59

    I've said that before I think the okay

  • 31:00

    has called me a liar or the audience

  • 31:03

    call me a liar but I I wouldn't do that

  • 31:04

    I don't think you would I don't think he

  • 31:06

    would either I don't think he would know

  • 31:07

    what I'm saying now I try my best to not

  • 31:09

    be in any room that he's in bruh and

  • 31:11

    that's what I'm about to say I think

  • 31:13

    with some of these Antics which are not

  • 31:15

    taken from this is some people are tired

  • 31:17

    of him dog black white purple brown some

  • 31:21

    [ __ ] are tired of him some will

  • 31:23

    still go wherever for the bag but some

  • 31:25

    [ __ ] standing I'm not even

  • 31:27

    doing it for the best some people and

  • 31:28

    that's what you're talking about

  • 31:29

    celebrities yes some people stand in the

  • 31:31

    level of morals yeah I don't think he

  • 31:33

    would be able to bro he's not gonna go

  • 31:34

    get all them same people that he got to

  • 31:36

    go [ __ ] with donda they not [ __ ] with

  • 31:39

    him son y'all got Kanye [ __ ] up bro

  • 31:41

    ice you live in this this this internet

  • 31:43

    troll [ __ ] I'm not everybody nothing no

  • 31:46

    I'm talking about with him and what

  • 31:47

    people do some [ __ ] stand on

  • 31:49

    something I agree with you I'm telling

  • 31:51

    you that a lot of these rap [ __ ] Ain't

  • 31:52

    Got the morals you talking about cool

  • 31:54

    cool I think y'all both are right them

  • 31:57

    [ __ ] with that phone ring from Kanye

  • 31:58

    they on that for like me some [ __ ]

  • 32:02

    I don't think he gets Jada kissing them

  • 32:04

    on that flight

  • 32:05

    again I don't think he might get Royce

  • 32:08

    on that flight don't have to I had him

  • 32:09

    already he ain't getting worse

  • 32:12

    certain [ __ ] is not going over there

  • 32:15

    to [ __ ] with him he might get some but

  • 32:17

    he's not gonna get that same sauce

  • 32:18

    where's the Slime ain't going over there

  • 32:20

    you go what I'm saying

  • 32:21

    there's some [ __ ] over there that's

  • 32:23

    not [ __ ] with him like that I agree

  • 32:25

    with you you are [ __ ] embarrassing

  • 32:27

    everyone but it's a lot of [ __ ] who

  • 32:29

    are going to answer that phone this is

  • 32:31

    the greatest Potter when he gets

  • 32:32

    fashioned all right he's making it seem

  • 32:34

    like it's a troll things

  • 32:36

    with them [ __ ] then he will all right

  • 32:39

    cool that's up please oh look Thug in

  • 32:43

    jail who else is on that [ __ ] that's in

  • 32:46

    jail anybody locked up let me tell you

  • 32:49

    something even some of these younger

  • 32:50

    that's the only person he really knews

  • 32:52

    even some of these younger [ __ ] some

  • 32:55

    of these younger [ __ ] are starting to

  • 32:56

    stand in

  • 32:58

    Unison with

  • 33:00

    black power right I couldn't think of

  • 33:03

    something better to say I don't know if

  • 33:05

    they [ __ ] with him

  • 33:06

    as we understand what you're saying yeah

  • 33:08

    but there are some like the ones that

  • 33:10

    got money like some of them that got a

  • 33:11

    couple because some of these [ __ ]

  • 33:12

    getting some money yeah I don't know if

  • 33:13

    they they need to check that bad and

  • 33:15

    they'll nor do they need Kanye

  • 33:16

    validation you're gonna get a sweetie

  • 33:18

    verse it's still a little list of people

  • 33:20

    you can get over there there's quite a

  • 33:22

    few people he can get over there bro

  • 33:40

    no way

  • 33:42

    as long as the Yo Gotti's still cool let

  • 33:44

    me get his whole roster over there

  • 33:49

    I'm trying to tell y'all like

  • 33:51

    what are we talking about he he get a

  • 33:54

    group of [ __ ] that could put some

  • 33:55

    music together hey Travis had that

  • 33:56

    brownie party turned up didn't he

  • 33:59

    [ __ ] I was home saying I get those

  • 34:01

    goosebumps every time

  • 34:05

    that was something

  • 34:07

    that's what they was doing I never

  • 34:10

    wanted to be around a 16 year old so bad

  • 34:13

    what was the party for yo I gotta give

  • 34:15

    that to LeBron another reason he's

  • 34:17

    better than Jordan every time you see

  • 34:18

    him at the party that [ __ ] got it lit

  • 34:20

    oh yeah he is dancing jumping turning up

  • 34:23

    and down another reason he better than

  • 34:25

    Julie yeah it was just memories

  • 34:31

    no he he [ __ ] with his kids I mean it's

  • 34:34

    a different generation with videos and

  • 34:36

    stuff but it seemed like yo he just is

  • 34:39

    is that father yeah

  • 34:42

    every basketball game halftime arguing

  • 34:45

    like he involved involved so it seems

  • 34:49

    oh I do there's that voice in my eyes

  • 34:55

    do we want to be cool and smooth they

  • 34:59

    got on me for my alley board should I

  • 35:01

    keep it smooth

  • 35:02

    I'll keep it a little smooth how the

  • 35:06

    [ __ ] do why the [ __ ] we know

  • 35:08

    I said seems I know but there's a lot in

  • 35:10

    them seems word this [ __ ] has been

  • 35:13

    LeBron James since the fifth grade I

  • 35:16

    think oh man but we're going to talk

  • 35:18

    about kids a lot I get it his I think

  • 35:21

    his wife has done a stellar phenomenal

  • 35:23

    job at just and he'll stay too so I mean

  • 35:27

    I ain't saying nothing wrong that just

  • 35:29

    raising the kids even in his absence

  • 35:32

    I would agree with that now that's not

  • 35:34

    to say he's not involved no no no no no

  • 35:36

    I do think he's involved but as involved

  • 35:38

    as you can be as you try to beat LeBron

  • 35:41

    James yeah yeah that's what I was saying

  • 35:45

    baby God damn it

  • 35:48

    I'm not getting back into my Tom Brady

  • 35:50

    no but but listen the difference is this

  • 35:53

    Tom don't want to see these kids

  • 35:55

    [Laughter]

  • 35:57

    I know the difference

  • 36:11

    is Leonard for not healthy or not

  • 36:15

    that [ __ ] been a talking to Gronk every

  • 36:17

    summer

  • 36:18

    Croc we need you yo what you doing kid's

  • 36:22

    banging on the door hey Daddy teach me

  • 36:24

    how to throw the football no [ __ ]

  • 36:35

    and LeBron's son is brownie like Tom

  • 36:38

    Brady ain't name his kid Tom Brady Jr

  • 36:40

    he had no faith

  • 36:46

    yo we got our little thing in the

  • 36:49

    beginning right where it says it's all

  • 36:50

    your jokes

  • 36:55

    oh man yo oh [ __ ] anyway huh

  • 37:08

    you're stupid

  • 37:11

    what was the LeBron party for

  • 37:13

    his son's birthday okay

  • 37:16

    well let's hit the Roundup Applause too

  • 37:18

    his son also got that uh

  • 37:19

    in il deal yeah could you just imagine

  • 37:22

    turning 18 you LeBron's son

  • 37:24

    man

  • 37:26

    I think about that all the time being

  • 37:29

    LeBron

  • 37:30

    in L.A

  • 37:32

    man

  • 37:36

    and you just got a deal yeah

  • 37:39

    you don't even need the deal pile it off

  • 37:42

    you didn't need the deal you don't need

  • 37:44

    a deal but it helps what the hell

  • 37:47

    my life ain't gonna change at all with

  • 37:50

    an n i i or L [ __ ] [ __ ] you got your own

  • 37:54

    [ __ ] now you can that's a different type

  • 37:55

    of Pop [ __ ] I don't know because all the

  • 37:58

    kids that come up and say oh you just

  • 37:59

    you're just hot because you're pop so

  • 38:01

    you'll be like I got my little [ __ ]

  • 38:03

    though yeah what should you got for

  • 38:04

    yourself I've trademarked my Brawn and

  • 38:08

    brawny that's like when you [ __ ] start

  • 38:10

    the extra YouTube page of YouTube clips

  • 38:12

    now hey we got both of these

  • 38:15

    hey they got them both Brownie and Brian

  • 38:18

    bro and shout out to all the college

  • 38:20

    kids the uh high school kids that got

  • 38:22

    that deal yeah it was Nike gave out five

  • 38:24

    of them oh wow okay we'll see I wouldn't

  • 38:26

    say nobody else name

  • 38:28

    I mean I ain't saying nobody named but

  • 38:30

    Victor what about being moved too and

  • 38:32

    School Anderson let me not disrespect

  • 38:33

    school but I'm the only talking about

  • 38:35

    Victor

  • 38:36

    bamboo that's it

  • 38:39

    that is the future they jumped on your

  • 38:41

    ass porzingis who that's what they said

  • 38:44

    that's what they said what he he's a

  • 38:46

    little bit better version of porzingis

  • 38:48

    hell no come on I'm not doing this no

  • 38:50

    I'm not I'm telling you what they said

  • 38:52

    and check yeah I could see you making

  • 38:54

    that argument oh my God Chad who nah

  • 38:56

    chest nice don't do that don't do that

  • 38:58

    to Victor talk about [ __ ] you do that a

  • 39:01

    lot yo stop I'm not I like that yeah L.A

  • 39:05

    stop it this is recording Sam I just

  • 39:07

    said I could go home we are recording

  • 39:10

    this so whatever you about to say can be

  • 39:12

    cemented lamented in podcast history for

  • 39:15

    the next 20 years I like him the kid is

  • 39:17

    18. I like them

  • 39:19

    I like you putting Vic and chat Home

  • 39:21

    Green let me try to this podcast maybe

  • 39:23

    through the roof let me see if I can get

  • 39:24

    it

  • 39:25

    are you saying don't make it racy

  • 39:28

    are you saying that well because black

  • 39:31

    [Laughter]

  • 39:37

    blue bamboo and Chet Home Green belong

  • 39:41

    in the same sentence

  • 39:43

    they already think all of our Sports

  • 39:45

    takes the trash

  • 39:47

    um

  • 39:49

    sentence

  • 39:52

    no I don't think he's better I don't

  • 39:53

    think he's better than what I've seen

  • 39:55

    with Vic but listen hold up though the

  • 39:58

    competition that I've seen Vic plan is

  • 39:59

    not the same level as Chet either

  • 40:02

    I understand that that matters

  • 40:06

    Victor's better than him from what I've

  • 40:08

    seen I understand that

  • 40:10

    do you think that Chet hungry belongs in

  • 40:13

    the same sentence with Victor bamboo

  • 40:19

    to that you say

  • 40:20

    yes

  • 40:22

    there you have it

  • 40:24

    in time will tell Rob clip that up for

  • 40:27

    me

  • 40:28

    Hey Thomas and I'm gonna give it the

  • 40:31

    time every time

  • 40:32

    [Laughter]

  • 40:35

    oh [ __ ] all right come on let's get into

  • 40:37

    let's get into all the sensitive stuff

  • 40:39

    off the internet is there anything music

  • 40:41

    we have to talk about I want to shout

  • 40:43

    out to Freddie Gibbs again because just

  • 40:45

    what an album I just want to shout them

  • 40:47

    out again sometimes the albums come out

  • 40:48

    we listen it's great and then we don't

  • 40:50

    say it again what an album

  • 40:54

    both of them dropped two really really

  • 40:57

    really really good albums

  • 41:02

    delivered

  • 41:04

    yep that's it yeah that's that's it

  • 41:06

    that's my music tech yeah top 20 list so

  • 41:08

    far yes well uh Tori I don't put them

  • 41:12

    because it's rap and R B I don't know

  • 41:15

    where to put his albums but Gibbs is

  • 41:17

    definitely already in the list

  • 41:20

    come on let's start out all of our child

  • 41:22

    support segment with uh 50 and his son

  • 41:26

    whether that was his son saying that

  • 41:28

    sixty seven hundred dollars a month is

  • 41:31

    not yes not enough to do nothing

  • 41:34

    uh for that I think

  • 41:38

    the internet flamed him up a little bit

  • 41:40

    they did they did

  • 41:44

    um

  • 41:45

    that's a lot all 50 did was post the

  • 41:47

    scene from Power

  • 41:49

    yeah wow

  • 41:52

    when um when when Kanan killed Sean yeah

  • 41:56

    and he said no captions damn

  • 42:00

    and then his son replied with well since

  • 42:03

    all y'all think 6700 is so much he

  • 42:05

    spelled out the word entitled in money

  • 42:07

    and he said since all y'all think 6 700

  • 42:10

    is so much uh tell him tell my dad that

  • 42:13

    I will pay 6 700 uh for him to come and

  • 42:16

    spend some time with me

  • 42:18

    I dropped a little Thug tear yeah now

  • 42:21

    that's that speaks volumes I mean we

  • 42:23

    could which which which way you want any

  • 42:25

    way you want any way you want to go I

  • 42:28

    think in in watching a video with him

  • 42:31

    talking about the sixty seven hundred

  • 42:32

    dollars he just seems misinformed you

  • 42:35

    get what I'm saying he just seems like a

  • 42:36

    kid how old is he 19. I'm not sure I

  • 42:39

    think he's roughly around 1920.

  • 42:42

    um he just seems to misinform he's

  • 42:44

    devaluing what 6700 is

  • 42:48

    right he asked homeboy yo what could you

  • 42:50

    do with 6 700 he's 25.

  • 42:53

    oh damn

  • 42:56

    that nigga's a man that [ __ ] I'm grown

  • 42:58

    grown but sixty seven hundred dollars

  • 43:01

    dog to most of America is more than what

  • 43:03

    they make and you taught me and he's not

  • 43:05

    paying taxes on the 6700. he'll pay

  • 43:08

    taxed on child support [ __ ] no so what

  • 43:10

    he said so basically you talking about

  • 43:12

    80 grand that's a hundred and twenty

  • 43:14

    thousand dollar job

  • 43:15

    [ __ ] that's doctors make that some

  • 43:18

    doctors make that some attorneys make

  • 43:19

    that they'll take care of themselves you

  • 43:21

    get what I'm saying so you talking about

  • 43:23

    seven somebody seven thousand dollars a

  • 43:25

    month is a lot of money it is and you

  • 43:27

    saying it like it's trash

  • 43:29

    well

  • 43:31

    yeah because what some of them were

  • 43:33

    reminding him was child support is

  • 43:34

    supposed to be a mutual thing your dad's

  • 43:37

    half so you take that and you add

  • 43:38

    another seven he kept he kept slipping

  • 43:41

    that Jab he kept slipping the job he's

  • 43:43

    like yo that's your father's portion

  • 43:45

    what about the portion from your mother

  • 43:46

    well that's where my focus is right

  • 43:48

    because you're absolutely right about

  • 43:50

    everything you're saying that he said

  • 43:52

    but he's getting that download from

  • 43:53

    somewhere sure

  • 43:55

    and that's the part there I don't want

  • 43:57

    to overlook sure so whatever feelings he

  • 44:00

    has about the child support

  • 44:03

    um about his dad

  • 44:06

    the why you're here why you're not here

  • 44:09

    the ill feelings that he has towards his

  • 44:11

    dad I'm not saying it's it's all from

  • 44:14

    somewhere

  • 44:15

    but we've seen this before we're a large

  • 44:18

    part of that

  • 44:19

    is coming probably from Mom a third

  • 44:21

    party

  • 44:22

    and if that's coming from Mom

  • 44:25

    and I'm I'm not arguing anything in this

  • 44:27

    I'm just having a conversation yeah

  • 44:29

    we're just talking and if a large part

  • 44:31

    of that is coming from Mom

  • 44:33

    and we ain't had the best relationship

  • 44:36

    and you taking pictures with

  • 44:39

    uh to do son who tried to kill me

  • 44:42

    and we just don't have a relationship

  • 44:44

    and maybe never have one I don't know I

  • 44:47

    can't speak on it

  • 44:49

    and you're 25 now

  • 44:52

    this is going to sound harsh

  • 44:55

    Bob

  • 44:57

    does a dad ever have the right to say

  • 44:59

    y'all don't want nothing to do with you

  • 45:02

    actually that's the thing it's called

  • 45:03

    disowning

  • 45:05

    here's the thing that's the thing y'all

  • 45:07

    ain't got to tense up come on we talking

  • 45:09

    about that I'm just listening that's the

  • 45:11

    thing just listening thinking that's

  • 45:12

    it's not it's not covered too much but

  • 45:15

    listen let me tell you I've been on

  • 45:16

    Plenty of therapy couple therapy shows

  • 45:20

    where

  • 45:22

    my problems were the least of the

  • 45:23

    worries in the house there was some

  • 45:25

    people in there that ain't seen their

  • 45:27

    fathers in 30 40 and 50 years never met

  • 45:31

    my dad I don't know what's going on my

  • 45:33

    dad got a new family is he alive is he

  • 45:35

    not alive and the therapist was going

  • 45:37

    out to find these dads and one by one

  • 45:39

    she'd bring dancing

  • 45:42

    and most of the time it ended with the

  • 45:45

    dad saying

  • 45:46

    door I don't give a [ __ ] about nothing

  • 45:48

    that you're talking about like your mom

  • 45:51

    did x y z this is the position that I

  • 45:54

    was in I left nobody made an attempt to

  • 45:57

    do none the same way I didn't make an

  • 45:58

    attempt I started a new family I'm over

  • 46:00

    here and you grown

  • 46:02

    that's it and the fathers will be out

  • 46:07

    and then I'd have to look at that person

  • 46:09

    crying breaking down because you don't

  • 46:12

    understand how how somebody could say

  • 46:14

    something like that but it's real

  • 46:18

    so though I can't imagine it and I can't

  • 46:20

    picture being in it

  • 46:23

    um how do we have a conversation about

  • 46:26

    it

  • 46:27

    it's it's a deeper conversation

  • 46:30

    um you you touched on like four or five

  • 46:32

    different points

  • 46:33

    um

  • 46:35

    one I think the third party thing is

  • 46:37

    evident I think that um he spoke on yo

  • 46:41

    we talking about Forbes listed blah blah

  • 46:43

    blah blah so he talked on that piece

  • 46:46

    almost to say I think if it was 10 grand

  • 46:48

    it still wouldn't have been enough

  • 46:50

    I agree you get what I'm saying if it

  • 46:52

    was him getting 10 grand a month it's

  • 46:53

    still not enough I think that um the

  • 46:55

    piece that you talked about when he said

  • 46:57

    y'all I'll give him 6 700 to come spend

  • 46:59

    time that's a megaphone to me same yeah

  • 47:03

    that's the Crux of it you understand

  • 47:05

    like that's a megaphone to me I think

  • 47:08

    that at this particular juncture you 25

  • 47:10

    years old you don't you can't navigate

  • 47:12

    your way through this because he's

  • 47:14

    borderline celebrities that you know

  • 47:16

    what I mean like he needs that your

  • 47:18

    mother can't guide you through that the

  • 47:20

    [ __ ] in the street can't guide you

  • 47:22

    through that so the [ __ ] that can

  • 47:23

    really guide you through that and I

  • 47:25

    don't I never met 50 Cent in my life but

  • 47:27

    every time I I hear him speak I'm drawn

  • 47:29

    into him because he got a lot of common

  • 47:32

    sense

  • 47:33

    and a bunch of other sins you know what

  • 47:35

    I'm saying talks on business well like I

  • 47:37

    just think that you know sitting with

  • 47:38

    them [ __ ] is a wealth of information

  • 47:41

    and his son could benefit from that

  • 47:43

    wealth of information no question

  • 47:44

    because I'm saying so that might be the

  • 47:46

    that's the cry

  • 47:49

    now I want you to respond you know what

  • 47:51

    I'm saying like yo I'ma say all this

  • 47:52

    [ __ ] I want you to respond so we can

  • 47:54

    have it in the media so now somebody can

  • 47:55

    say yo dog why don't you go sit with

  • 47:57

    them that might be that that's only one

  • 48:00

    see that's the thing that makes it tough

  • 48:02

    that's a hard one normally I'm able to

  • 48:05

    speculate or use some foresight or

  • 48:08

    imagine a situation this is one of those

  • 48:11

    where I can't because I can't imagine I

  • 48:14

    didn't feel like that when my dad wasn't

  • 48:16

    there and then he came around I wasn't

  • 48:18

    angry at him so I can't put myself in

  • 48:21

    the shoes of the kid that's angry at

  • 48:23

    their parent I feel you on it

  • 48:25

    um I also can't put myself in 50 shoes

  • 48:28

    because not only could I never see

  • 48:30

    myself doing it but 50 I believe to be

  • 48:34

    hardened in a way that I am not because

  • 48:37

    of his experiences and things that he's

  • 48:40

    gone through the people that I have

  • 48:42

    being as hardened as him I know that

  • 48:45

    they think a bit differently

  • 48:48

    that's true I can't put my brain in that

  • 48:51

    in that to understand it

  • 48:53

    so I just try to respect it yeah

  • 48:56

    um I can speak on my personal situation

  • 48:59

    after a while

  • 49:02

    I wasn't mad at my father

  • 49:05

    I ain't really [ __ ] with you you know

  • 49:07

    what I'm saying but I wasn't tight like

  • 49:09

    if I seen him I say hi I wasn't like you

  • 49:12

    know walking by him not speaking and you

  • 49:14

    know what I'm saying um

  • 49:16

    as you get older people just do what

  • 49:18

    they do and you got to kind of let them

  • 49:19

    be who they are now let me let me ask

  • 49:21

    you a question true

  • 49:23

    in your situation and I'm not saying

  • 49:26

    this is what's happening with 50 and his

  • 49:27

    son but just in the conversation

  • 49:31

    you didn't have your mom

  • 49:33

    kind of attaining your thoughts never

  • 49:35

    your father never I didn't have that

  • 49:36

    either never I think in certain

  • 49:38

    instances that place

  • 49:41

    a major part but in my instance that's

  • 49:44

    more reason for you to dislike this

  • 49:45

    [ __ ]

  • 49:48

    because my mother was like yo

  • 49:50

    open to it you get what I'm saying like

  • 49:52

    my mother wasn't like no no your father

  • 49:54

    ain't [ __ ] you can't go see him my

  • 49:56

    mother was like rock out and you still

  • 49:58

    did not put forth an effort you still

  • 50:01

    didn't take any initiative to bond or

  • 50:03

    have a relationship

  • 50:05

    um so that would have been more reason

  • 50:07

    for me to be mad I'm just saying me and

  • 50:09

    who I am everybody wouldn't respond to

  • 50:11

    the same stimulus the same way it was

  • 50:13

    like [ __ ] you dog I'm good

  • 50:18

    and so in our upbringing kind of does

  • 50:22

    that you know what I'm saying like dog

  • 50:23

    I've got time to wallow

  • 50:26

    I gotta get to it right so whether you

  • 50:28

    hear what and my father was doing well

  • 50:29

    like my father's DC cop had money cars

  • 50:32

    all that [ __ ] was doing well we were

  • 50:34

    struggling I still ain't look at you

  • 50:37

    with no content like I don't [ __ ] with

  • 50:38

    you like that but I'm not gonna uh uh so

  • 50:42

    you have no idea why he wasn't present

  • 50:45

    it was a choice

  • 50:47

    but no idea why he made that choice no

  • 50:49

    never wanted to know

  • 50:52

    um I did want to know but after a while

  • 50:53

    it was like [ __ ] it yeah what you all

  • 50:56

    right so when I

  • 50:57

    all right so I got shot when I was 20.

  • 51:00

    right so I got shot when I was 20. I

  • 51:02

    moved to Maryland

  • 51:04

    when I turned 21. mm-hmm

  • 51:08

    to go to school so I was in college when

  • 51:10

    I got shot I moved to Maryland when I

  • 51:11

    was 21 to go to school

  • 51:14

    so I lived with my father for maybe

  • 51:18

    I moved in in January I probably moved

  • 51:20

    out in June

  • 51:21

    okay you know what I'm saying like I

  • 51:23

    moved in in January you know it was cool

  • 51:25

    my father worked a lot like cops work a

  • 51:27

    lot they'd be doing OT and all that [ __ ]

  • 51:28

    so I barely would see my father it was

  • 51:30

    like months that I wouldn't even see him

  • 51:31

    because I would be going to school when

  • 51:34

    he would be coming home and then by the

  • 51:36

    time I got home from school he would be

  • 51:37

    gone doing 16 hour shifts right so it

  • 51:40

    was literally like I had a house to the

  • 51:41

    net

  • 51:42

    but in that

  • 51:46

    you had an opportunity for us to iron

  • 51:48

    out whatever issues man the man I'm 21

  • 51:51

    years old now so whatever you could have

  • 51:53

    gotten off your chest apologetic you

  • 51:55

    could have explained yourself you could

  • 51:56

    have done whatever you had to do you

  • 51:58

    didn't do and you didn't take a almost

  • 52:00

    like one of my aunts told me it was like

  • 52:02

    um

  • 52:03

    he told her like yo she said yo you had

  • 52:05

    enough opportunity to to write all of

  • 52:08

    your wrongs this is his sister his

  • 52:10

    sister okay said yo you could have right

  • 52:12

    right all your wrongs and you didn't

  • 52:13

    even take advantage of that opportunity

  • 52:15

    with his family yeah yeah okay cool

  • 52:19

    um but some people they just gonna be

  • 52:22

    who they are yo especially when you come

  • 52:23

    you start talking about men that's a

  • 52:25

    good lead-off that you wrote men

  • 52:27

    sometimes look at any

  • 52:30

    um

  • 52:34

    we just taught to be so tough yo we just

  • 52:36

    taught not to be vulnerable or sensitive

  • 52:39

    or any of that [ __ ] because it's looked

  • 52:40

    at its weakness and it's really a

  • 52:42

    strength it's not a weakness and when

  • 52:44

    you start talking about older men my

  • 52:46

    father didn't have a father you know

  • 52:48

    what I'm saying like all of that [ __ ] is

  • 52:49

    just and so you don't you really don't

  • 52:51

    know what to do like you know why your

  • 52:53

    father didn't have a father

  • 52:57

    um from my understanding like I never

  • 52:59

    met my father's father you understand

  • 53:01

    what I'm saying so from my understanding

  • 53:04

    he went to work one day and then come

  • 53:05

    back

  • 53:06

    he was getting dressed every day acting

  • 53:08

    as if he had a job and he didn't have a

  • 53:10

    job uh so yeah I wouldn't want answers

  • 53:13

    to those questions you know what I'm

  • 53:14

    saying even if I don't have the best

  • 53:16

    relationship I would want to know the

  • 53:18

    family history yeah yeah why did Grant

  • 53:21

    why did Dad not have a dad so what did

  • 53:23

    he do we we I don't want to we already

  • 53:25

    in a serious space we're serious no

  • 53:27

    we're already in serious space so so

  • 53:29

    think about this from a black

  • 53:31

    perspective a lot of us are growing up

  • 53:33

    in single parent households that's why

  • 53:35

    it's okay to us that's why it's okay

  • 53:37

    like you feel like you are okay yeah

  • 53:40

    it's normal it's normal you feel like yo

  • 53:42

    I'm good I'm okay

  • 53:44

    so for you to leave your family or your

  • 53:46

    baby's mom to have a over run it by

  • 53:50

    herself I turned out okay she gonna be I

  • 53:54

    mean we really feel like that like a lot

  • 53:56

    of dudes really feel like man I hear

  • 53:58

    Joker say we got friends [ __ ] be like

  • 54:00

    yo I'm saying man take care of my kid

  • 54:02

    man give my baby 80 a month my child

  • 54:05

    support is paid it's like yo my [ __ ]

  • 54:07

    you can't feed a rottweiler with eighty

  • 54:08

    dollars a month what the [ __ ] is you

  • 54:10

    talking about to bring it back to uh I

  • 54:12

    was joking earlier about Brownie's uh

  • 54:15

    party that he had but watching that the

  • 54:19

    first thing I said was damn I think I

  • 54:21

    could tell the difference when kids grew

  • 54:22

    up like with their dad now yeah even

  • 54:25

    talking to girls you can hear the

  • 54:27

    difference and we get mad at all these

  • 54:29

    black women

  • 54:30

    and we say all these things about black

  • 54:32

    women dog a lot of these women have

  • 54:34

    grown up in situations where they've

  • 54:36

    never seen a positive male figure when

  • 54:39

    I'm talking to girls I used to talk to

  • 54:41

    girls you could sit on the phone and

  • 54:42

    hear in the first half an hour 45

  • 54:44

    minutes who had a father in the

  • 54:46

    household I think in the in that old

  • 54:49

    video in that old video game double

  • 54:51

    dribbled before the [ __ ] got on fire

  • 54:54

    wasn't there a noise or something that

  • 54:55

    happened that's NBA Jam

  • 54:58

    oh yeah

  • 55:03

    Audrey no but so so you're right so from

  • 55:06

    a male perspective it's a little easier

  • 55:08

    for the male to talk to their daughter

  • 55:10

    or for the for the daughter to seek you

  • 55:12

    know what I'm saying like it's a

  • 55:14

    difference like for men to sit down and

  • 55:16

    have that conversation with men because

  • 55:18

    now you got to just be totally

  • 55:19

    vulnerable

  • 55:21

    and most people not really willing to do

  • 55:22

    that so again I live with my father

  • 55:24

    probably from January to maybe like June

  • 55:27

    or July he was a cop cops would be dicks

  • 55:29

    he be at you know what I'm saying I'm

  • 55:31

    like yo [ __ ] I'm out of here your story

  • 55:34

    remind me uh and I'm not trying to be

  • 55:37

    funny here but in Law and Order this was

  • 55:40

    the same thing that was going on with

  • 55:41

    Elliot stapler

  • 55:43

    his child

  • 55:45

    he worked a lot

  • 55:47

    and

  • 55:48

    his child just didn't have a good

  • 55:51

    relationship with him because yo you a

  • 55:53

    copy you're never there when I need you

  • 55:54

    I think Jack Bauer's child and that show

  • 55:57

    was beef and beefing with him too right

  • 55:59

    yeah your story reminds me of both so so

  • 56:02

    in some of those instances even with the

  • 56:04

    Tom Brady [ __ ]

  • 56:06

    when you when you start talking about

  • 56:08

    you have an option to be here

  • 56:11

    you are electing to put a sport before

  • 56:14

    and I want to judge him but what it

  • 56:18

    seems like from the outside looking in

  • 56:19

    you have an option to be in your kid's

  • 56:22

    life and you are electing voluntarily

  • 56:25

    not to do so for a sport where you are

  • 56:27

    already cemented as the greatest

  • 56:30

    what more do you have to get from the

  • 56:32

    sport

  • 56:33

    it ain't money because we we up over

  • 56:35

    here Mommy up you up

  • 56:38

    now it could be viewed a certain way my

  • 56:40

    [ __ ] it can I I now have a better

  • 56:43

    understanding of your Tom Brady tick you

  • 56:45

    get what I'm saying like you you elected

  • 56:47

    voluntarily not to be here like my

  • 56:49

    mother's begging you in the media to

  • 56:51

    spend time with us

  • 56:53

    and you saying not football first you

  • 56:56

    saying nah

  • 56:58

    how do your kids view that

  • 57:01

    you get what I'm saying it ain't like

  • 57:02

    because we know a bunch of scenarios

  • 57:04

    where the mother be the [ __ ] like

  • 57:07

    let's be clear about that too these

  • 57:08

    mothers be [ __ ] and they and they

  • 57:11

    wedge something in between you and your

  • 57:14

    kid you know what I'm saying they tell

  • 57:16

    the live stories they do all the [ __ ]

  • 57:17

    [ __ ] to where you can't necessarily be

  • 57:19

    there for your kid you fighting in court

  • 57:21

    and doing all of that with the Tom Brady

  • 57:23

    [ __ ] it's not that

  • 57:25

    yo this girl is begging her husband in

  • 57:27

    the media to come the [ __ ] home and you

  • 57:29

    are saying no but I don't know the

  • 57:30

    situation the detail that's why I've

  • 57:32

    never taken that stage I don't know how

  • 57:33

    often he's home you know what I mean he

  • 57:36

    might be able to practice and watch tape

  • 57:38

    for way less time than he usually did

  • 57:40

    and work out he might be around all that

  • 57:42

    could be true but when I hear his talk

  • 57:44

    I'm hearing the perspective of a child

  • 57:47

    yeah bro and that's and where those

  • 57:49

    things could be true and so what the

  • 57:51

    child don't care about none of that [ __ ]

  • 57:52

    so what what more can you gain from

  • 57:54

    football

  • 57:56

    no no that's what I'm saying like what's

  • 57:59

    the trade-off what more can you gain

  • 58:01

    from football another championship all

  • 58:02

    right now you got eight you don't got

  • 58:03

    seven

  • 58:06

    you know what I'm saying so here's my

  • 58:07

    phone I got another clip I'm sure to

  • 58:09

    make

  • 58:14

    so so when you when you see the LeBrons

  • 58:16

    yeah like dog that [ __ ] warms your heart

  • 58:19

    this [ __ ] be in the summertime at all

  • 58:21

    the [ __ ] AAU games sitting there with

  • 58:24

    his [ __ ] at halftime y'all he'll go up

  • 58:26

    to him at timeouts like yo I've missed

  • 58:29

    every single one of my daughters swim

  • 58:30

    meets that was gangster yeah I just made

  • 58:32

    I heard that sick a lot of money and I'm

  • 58:35

    like but I I watch I've been watching my

  • 58:38

    daughter's life on like a phone yeah

  • 58:40

    these two dudes was crying again like

  • 58:41

    she's never gonna be six again you know

  • 58:43

    and I miss like tons of her life yeah I

  • 58:48

    make this money but I'm like I've

  • 58:50

    watched my kids life through a [ __ ]

  • 58:52

    face time yeah and I'm the only dad that

  • 58:56

    has been in her swimming tour

  • 59:00

    killed me

  • 59:01

    how do you do it because

  • 59:08

    I get drunk every day

  • 59:14

    why do I see the clips I cried on this

  • 59:17

    one too I just sit home and cry over

  • 59:19

    here

  • 59:20

    they be powerful [ __ ] yeah

  • 59:23

    like that should be powerful and again

  • 59:25

    as a man it's just sometimes you you

  • 59:27

    kind of gotta uh

  • 59:31

    you kind of gotta blank it out like

  • 59:33

    we've been taught just that too like

  • 59:35

    [ __ ] that bother you we just been kind

  • 59:37

    of taught to kind of uh what they call

  • 59:39

    it suppress it yeah right you you got to

  • 59:42

    do that you got to keep to maintain your

  • 59:43

    level of sanity my [ __ ] you got to do

  • 59:45

    that for sure that's right you know what

  • 59:47

    I'm saying like you like you just have

  • 59:48

    to you find a way to do it our

  • 59:51

    neighborhoods teach us how to do it

  • 59:52

    unfortunately

  • 59:54

    so who the [ __ ] are you gonna call

  • 59:59

    that's it

  • 1:00:01

    it's just everybody has a perspective

  • 1:00:04

    I told y'all well maybe I didn't tell

  • 1:00:06

    y'all one of them times not too not too

  • 1:00:09

    long ago my dad called and I forgot what

  • 1:00:10

    he's talking about but he was like Hey

  • 1:00:12

    it might have been his birthday like oh

  • 1:00:14

    Pop I love you where's my clean date

  • 1:00:16

    something and he's like yeah all that's

  • 1:00:18

    cool but how you feel about my me being

  • 1:00:21

    a dad and how I feel about the dad I was

  • 1:00:23

    two different things that none you and

  • 1:00:24

    your mother could ever say about it like

  • 1:00:26

    that's my [ __ ] that I go I think about

  • 1:00:29

    like but that's great yo if you was

  • 1:00:32

    everything you needed to be listen shut

  • 1:00:34

    up you can't shut up affect how he felt

  • 1:00:36

    yeah yeah there's nothing you can say

  • 1:00:38

    that's gonna change my perspective on

  • 1:00:41

    this

  • 1:00:42

    do I get everybody just has my

  • 1:00:44

    perspective yeah

  • 1:00:47

    moving on yeah and these play

  • 1:00:48

    outstanding no no no you you want to

  • 1:00:51

    give to another meeting

  • 1:00:54

    all right y'all are Macho machines

  • 1:00:59

    stay here so so again I don't know 50

  • 1:01:03

    Cent imagine how he might really feel

  • 1:01:08

    the streets have hardened him to a place

  • 1:01:10

    where

  • 1:01:13

    you feel me said like yo people are

  • 1:01:15

    expendable like I could cut off people

  • 1:01:17

    because I could do that I could cut a

  • 1:01:19

    [ __ ] off and never speak to them

  • 1:01:20

    again in my life and I'm not gonna be

  • 1:01:21

    it's a gift and a curse for me right

  • 1:01:24

    like I'm never gonna talk to you again

  • 1:01:26

    which I imagine to be times like a

  • 1:01:29

    billion when someone is well when

  • 1:01:31

    Killers have tried to kill you

  • 1:01:33

    like so now one one sign of someone not

  • 1:01:37

    being for me or in my corner they gotta

  • 1:01:40

    go yeah no matter staying on that side

  • 1:01:42

    now hey and you're forever there in the

  • 1:01:44

    heat

  • 1:01:45

    be able to walk away 30 second love and

  • 1:01:48

    30 seconds or less yeah

  • 1:01:51

    yeah that was such a cold line when he

  • 1:01:53

    said it but his [ __ ] out here that's

  • 1:01:55

    really moving like that yeah that's not

  • 1:01:57

    a healthy way to live life you picked

  • 1:01:58

    over there all right cool stay over

  • 1:01:59

    there stay over there you can't come

  • 1:02:00

    back okay never come back over here ever

  • 1:02:02

    again and it's exacerbated in my opinion

  • 1:02:04

    by the internet because people post that

  • 1:02:06

    [ __ ] all the time you know what I mean

  • 1:02:07

    and make it sound cool they do you know

  • 1:02:09

    what I mean that ain't cool that's not a

  • 1:02:11

    healthy way to live life in my opinion

  • 1:02:12

    okay also on the child front uh this is

  • 1:02:16

    breaking I'll throw this in there we

  • 1:02:18

    don't need to take Ben Gordon arrested

  • 1:02:20

    at the airport for allegedly striking

  • 1:02:21

    his 10 year old son

  • 1:02:23

    yikes that just came through

  • 1:02:27

    don't know any more details on it

  • 1:02:28

    basketball player I had a jump shot yeah

  • 1:02:31

    yeah

  • 1:02:32

    being gold nice

  • 1:02:34

    Ben Gordon was good

  • 1:02:36

    um where do you guys stand on you could

  • 1:02:39

    go to jail for today I mean yeah it

  • 1:02:42

    depends that's kind of what I was

  • 1:02:43

    talking about when when Wall Street

  • 1:02:44

    Trapper was hit we would say how before

  • 1:02:46

    like Miss Jackson whoop your ass to him

  • 1:02:48

    I was like yo you can't beat your kids

  • 1:02:50

    today

  • 1:02:52

    forget the neighbor you lying I'm dead

  • 1:02:55

    serious dog

  • 1:02:56

    you know how I used to be in the

  • 1:02:57

    supermarket yo don't touch nothing she

  • 1:03:01

    just give you the look remember that and

  • 1:03:03

    and I know in the closed mouth talk

  • 1:03:05

    listen

  • 1:03:07

    in an effort to not be an old caveman

  • 1:03:10

    ass [ __ ] I know that the kids are right

  • 1:03:12

    about certain [ __ ] like they probably

  • 1:03:15

    right like your parents shouldn't be the

  • 1:03:16

    kid I'm not putting a thought in that

  • 1:03:19

    what I'm saying is

  • 1:03:21

    there's no world where I want to see how

  • 1:03:24

    I would have turned out without getting

  • 1:03:25

    beat

  • 1:03:27

    now therapists have told me that that is

  • 1:03:29

    totally wrong and that I am I shouldn't

  • 1:03:32

    think like that at all and

  • 1:03:39

    I just know how what punishment taught

  • 1:03:42

    me consequences at an early age I'm not

  • 1:03:45

    saying for y'all get it twisted I'm not

  • 1:03:48

    saying oh go oh yeah we are definitely

  • 1:03:50

    sending the wrong message out today yeah

  • 1:03:52

    I'm not saying that I'm not saying

  • 1:03:53

    therapy says you're supposed to learn to

  • 1:03:55

    talk to your kid or communicate with

  • 1:03:57

    your kid or find a different way

  • 1:03:59

    positive reinforcement as opposed to yes

  • 1:04:01

    because the therapist says that you

  • 1:04:03

    punishing your kid by hitting them

  • 1:04:06

    it's just causing trauma because then

  • 1:04:08

    they live their life thinking that

  • 1:04:11

    that's okay

  • 1:04:13

    to uh problem solve that way to hit

  • 1:04:16

    their kids she broke it all down I was

  • 1:04:19

    like oh I hear you but I hear I get my

  • 1:04:21

    mama needed to grab that belt yeah same

  • 1:04:23

    I wasn't near Wildland I'm gonna say

  • 1:04:24

    this I'll call my mom right now she she

  • 1:04:26

    loves to tell the story she said you

  • 1:04:28

    know me and my brother we got it

  • 1:04:30

    differently she was like you

  • 1:04:32

    it only took one or two good times for

  • 1:04:34

    you you me

  • 1:04:36

    and then him my mom had an answer it was

  • 1:04:38

    just

  • 1:04:39

    it was like he just kept pushing it was

  • 1:04:41

    to us he's still me I'm like I don't

  • 1:04:43

    like this [ __ ] oh I don't like that [ __ ]

  • 1:04:45

    oh that's what you're doing I don't like

  • 1:04:47

    that never mind I ain't gonna do that no

  • 1:04:48

    more the child also had a restraining

  • 1:04:50

    order against him

  • 1:04:52

    against him yeah against his dad yeah

  • 1:04:55

    well that's why he went to jail

  • 1:04:57

    that's why

  • 1:04:58

    I have a lot of questions you can't hit

  • 1:05:01

    me if I got a restraining order against

  • 1:05:02

    you no how old's the kid do we know how

  • 1:05:04

    to be around me yeah he's ten he's ten I

  • 1:05:07

    know but people always bring restraint

  • 1:05:08

    in order to be around each other but you

  • 1:05:10

    can't hit me while he's wanting the fact

  • 1:05:12

    you shouldn't me

  • 1:05:13

    how did it to you

  • 1:05:16

    yo this is this is what I will say

  • 1:05:19

    come on cause I'm getting something

  • 1:05:21

    happy or something no no no my little

  • 1:05:22

    cousin right my little cousin um he was

  • 1:05:24

    locked up for a long time Mr jail as a

  • 1:05:27

    kid

  • 1:05:27

    he came home and he was like yo one

  • 1:05:29

    thing I'll say that I learned in jail

  • 1:05:31

    he said yo the biggest motivator in the

  • 1:05:33

    world is fear and violence

  • 1:05:36

    that's what he said as a in jail taught

  • 1:05:39

    him that so when you start talking about

  • 1:05:41

    kids acting right the kids that be

  • 1:05:43

    scared of their parents my [ __ ]

  • 1:05:47

    they scared of their parents they won't

  • 1:05:49

    do certain [ __ ] in the world just out of

  • 1:05:50

    fear I'm not saying that that fear has

  • 1:05:53

    to be a physical fear you know what I'm

  • 1:05:55

    saying like but punishment or grounding

  • 1:05:58

    or however you achieve that level of

  • 1:06:01

    fear or respect in your kids I think

  • 1:06:04

    it's I think it's warranted and I think

  • 1:06:06

    it's needed today

  • 1:06:08

    and the therapist says that that

  • 1:06:09

    [ __ ] comes from slavery what beaten

  • 1:06:13

    not even necessarily you know the uh

  • 1:06:15

    yeah uh beating when somebody is out of

  • 1:06:17

    line somebody

  • 1:06:18

    to instill like if my single mother in

  • 1:06:22

    that house didn't beat me and my brother

  • 1:06:24

    we would have overtook the house from

  • 1:06:26

    her

  • 1:06:28

    and that ain't just your household

  • 1:06:29

    that's not just sorry Mom that's a lot

  • 1:06:32

    of households yeah that's true that have

  • 1:06:36

    been our house that's a lot of

  • 1:06:37

    households bro

  • 1:06:39

    oh no dog no I was bad yo bro before the

  • 1:06:42

    street light come on all that [ __ ] that

  • 1:06:44

    worked on y'all no no the street light

  • 1:06:45

    came on the tomorrow morning

  • 1:06:48

    just came on at 5 30 man I'm never going

  • 1:06:52

    home it was [ __ ] me

  • 1:06:54

    never doing it

  • 1:06:57

    um where do you gentlemen stand on

  • 1:07:00

    uh

  • 1:07:02

    I'm doing this part once a week so I'm

  • 1:07:04

    telling you because you do this [ __ ]

  • 1:07:06

    twice a week you'll be able to talk

  • 1:07:07

    about somebody that you know

  • 1:07:08

    I don't want to talk about nobody I know

  • 1:07:10

    I don't

  • 1:07:12

    sometimes you [ __ ] be newsworthy

  • 1:07:15

    Fab post his daughter that he has with

  • 1:07:18

    Emily

  • 1:07:19

    shout out to both Fab and Emily shout

  • 1:07:21

    out to both of them both dear friends

  • 1:07:23

    uh he posts his daughter that he has

  • 1:07:26

    with Emily and a beautiful caption hey I

  • 1:07:29

    named you Journey because of the journey

  • 1:07:31

    and it was just a beautifully written

  • 1:07:33

    caption and as a dad I felt it

  • 1:07:38

    uh and then Emily's daughter

  • 1:07:41

    makes a post

  • 1:07:43

    to basically say all of this is internet

  • 1:07:46

    front and you ain't you ain't been there

  • 1:07:48

    you ain't been there you're not taking

  • 1:07:50

    care of your daughter you're not doing

  • 1:07:51

    what you're supposed to do but you want

  • 1:07:52

    to come around and take an Instagram

  • 1:07:54

    picture to let people think blah blah

  • 1:07:56

    blah blah stop the cap stop running that

  • 1:07:58

    that wasn't her uh

  • 1:08:01

    word verbatim but that was the message

  • 1:08:03

    let me read it no okay

  • 1:08:06

    do something

  • 1:08:10

    read it for for context so people can

  • 1:08:13

    have an understanding everybody's not as

  • 1:08:15

    familiar I'll start with uh with his

  • 1:08:17

    caption I named you Journey because

  • 1:08:20

    that's really what it's been

  • 1:08:21

    might not know when you're going through

  • 1:08:23

    it but you'll get it at the end like

  • 1:08:25

    this man read hers

  • 1:08:26

    all right I rehearse we all need to read

  • 1:08:28

    them beautiful she starts with three

  • 1:08:30

    laughing emojis crying laughing and says

  • 1:08:32

    this post is hilarious

  • 1:08:34

    might not know when you're going through

  • 1:08:36

    it but you'll get it at the end it's

  • 1:08:38

    translation for I haven't taken care of

  • 1:08:40

    my daughter in almost a year and don't

  • 1:08:42

    even ask about her well-being because I

  • 1:08:44

    don't care and I'm bitter and I'm only a

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    father to my two beautiful sons who I

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    can manipulate stop playing with the

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    internet

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    damn

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    I'm gonna hit a gunshot

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    no no gunshot my [ __ ] am I gunshot

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    Worthy

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    you're right

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    um where do y'all stand on this

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    come on don't get quiet people are

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    listening

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    um gather your thoughts

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    I know we're outside I I think you

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    should first me shoot first all right

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    totally against this from her

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    on many different fronts

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    uh

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    the first one let's assume that what

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    she's saying is true

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    I've unfortunately been there a few

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    times

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    where the relationship is strenuous with

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    uh with the mom uh having seen your

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    child the way you would like to for

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    whatever circumstance is happening and

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    sometimes for the parent well for the

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    dad in that instance

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    it's pictures man

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    it's pictures of your son your daughter

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    when I wasn't seeing Trey I didn't have

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    a Facebook but anytime I was searching

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    Facebook for pictures of him because

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    just seeing my kid if that's the only

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    time I get to see you then it's special

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    to me it's a different level oh you and

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    I'm this if this is how if this is one

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    of the only ways I can keep up with you

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    oh you in the studio oh you yeah I'm not

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    there but what you think that I don't

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    want to be there well I don't want to be

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    kept up with what's going on with you

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    like

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    so I feel him on that uh

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    there were days where

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    maybe I weren't the greatest when we

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    were going through how do we split

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    but on Father's Day

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    I got to be there and you [ __ ] better

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    believe I took a picture and I posted it

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    that wasn't to say hey I'm being the

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    best dad in the world in our

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    relationship is as great as it could be

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    that was for me as a dad so I could go

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    back to and look at and get all warm and

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    tingly inside whenever I'm yearning for

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    my my child

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    now

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    I'm only speaking from men that want to

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    be in their kids life

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    let me make myself clear

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    there are many versions of this story

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    and as I just finished saying some

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    [ __ ] don't want to be some [ __ ] well

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    I can do without the picture I don't

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    need to be there I don't need to see how

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    you're doing I'm not speaking for them

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    so I understand it on that part

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    secondly

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    I do believe that as a child there are

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    things that you you aren't privy to

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    and there are things that are none of

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    your business especially some of which

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    that went on between me and your mother

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    I stand in that

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    I would I I was hoping that my oldest

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    son while he was growing up

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    wasn't being told from his mother all of

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    our [ __ ]

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    that was a lot of [ __ ] give it to me

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    one how old is she um

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    Emily's daughter now she's 20 something

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    she's in the 20. she's 20. she's a

  • 1:12:04

    mother of her own she got two kids she

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    has two kids

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    I think she that part right there has

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    her looking at things a little different

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    and she's been there like I don't think

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    her mom needed to tell her nothing

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    she might have been there in the house

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    and seen X Y and Z happening we don't

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    know who knows what when it comes to

  • 1:12:21

    them

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    it's it kind of looks a little clear

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    that she's fed up with something that's

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    a fact

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    but also when it comes to kids or

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    children or young adults

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    there needs to be more communication to

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    see why you feel the way you feel and

  • 1:12:41

    sometimes it's never just as blunt as

  • 1:12:44

    what a young adult says or what a young

  • 1:12:46

    kid says because to that I match you

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    with

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    that was my house that you grew up in

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    that that's my I I held that house down

  • 1:12:57

    whatever perspective you got in that

  • 1:12:59

    house

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    that was me your whole upbring to that

  • 1:13:03

    you say what

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    that's not to say that you shouldn't

  • 1:13:07

    have a perspective

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    I was getting ready to say she still

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    could oh again I don't even of course

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    talk about Fab and him yeah I don't

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    either we could kind of take this I'm

  • 1:13:17

    trying to broaden this yeah yeah we can

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    take this to a different different place

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    um

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    prayers to them like sincerely and

  • 1:13:26

    genuinely prayers to them and the 50 and

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    his son and anybody going through

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    the these types of issues the older kid

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    or the kid that has been there

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    can definitely fill away depending upon

  • 1:13:39

    what they've seen fact so if you've seen

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    certain [ __ ] and now that you're older

  • 1:13:45

    you recognize certain [ __ ] you know what

  • 1:13:48

    I'm saying like so let's just say uh uh

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    the dad was an alcoholic

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    right and he used to beat his kids

  • 1:13:55

    or or or or the dad or the mom was on

  • 1:13:58

    drugs and used to lead the kids in

  • 1:13:59

    [ __ ] up situations and circumstances

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    and now you get on social media and you

  • 1:14:05

    want to act like you're the Cosby's or

  • 1:14:07

    you're The Partridge Family some of

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    these kids especially in this generation

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    will be like [ __ ] that's cap

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    [ __ ] out of here you know what I'm

  • 1:14:15

    saying you ain't mom of the year you

  • 1:14:16

    ain't daddy yet stop getting on here

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    fronting for the public

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    and I think that they are entitled to

  • 1:14:22

    feel that way because you can't tell

  • 1:14:24

    somebody how they should feel you know

  • 1:14:26

    what I'm saying like now could it be

  • 1:14:27

    handled with a different level of

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    tact sure but when people are emotional

  • 1:14:33

    they really don't be attacked yeah you

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    know what I'm saying so and today you

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    know yeah everything is online so

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    um I just think that uh

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    again this is not even directed toward

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    them like if your mother was turning

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    tricks with you in the bedroom well you

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    know what I'm saying people grew up in

  • 1:14:49

    situations where their mother would let

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    [ __ ] touch them you know what I'm

  • 1:14:52

    saying like you can't sit now on [ __ ]

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    social media and start talking about

  • 1:14:57

    how you love me like I don't want to

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    hear that [ __ ] my [ __ ]

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    so I just think that you know people are

  • 1:15:02

    entitled to to their stances or their

  • 1:15:05

    opinions

  • 1:15:06

    um and and and I think the information

  • 1:15:09

    is key for a third party to really be

  • 1:15:12

    able to have a fair assessment because

  • 1:15:15

    the in the inside the house [ __ ] is

  • 1:15:17

    important that [ __ ] is important some

  • 1:15:20

    mothers really be on some [ __ ] and

  • 1:15:22

    some mothers really don't so I think

  • 1:15:25

    that is a real real real big piece in in

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    those circumstances I think the the role

  • 1:15:30

    that the mother plays on

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    um

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    resistance because some others be

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    resistant to the dude being a a father

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    or the the father in which they would

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    like to be some mothers be like yo rock

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    out imma get them dressed he'll be

  • 1:15:47

    dressed by nine o'clock father don't

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    ever pick him up show up yeah don't show

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    up the kids sitting there waiting you

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    know what I'm saying y'all I'ma send you

  • 1:15:53

    this I'm gonna send you that father

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    don't never send it you know what I'm

  • 1:15:56

    saying it's a bunch of that that takes

  • 1:15:57

    place and so now some kids see that when

  • 1:16:00

    they start to get older they see that

  • 1:16:01

    like yo dog I remember being dressed

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    with my baseball mid on and you ain't

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    show up

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    now my mother got to go to the park with

  • 1:16:08

    me and play catch because to stop me

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    from crying you get what I'm saying so

  • 1:16:12

    now when you get online and you got a

  • 1:16:14

    picture now saying how we play you know

  • 1:16:16

    what I'm saying [ __ ] get the [ __ ] out

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    of here like I don't want to hear that

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    you know what I'm saying so I just think

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    I wasn't talking to you

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    I know but but so I wasn't talking to

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    you no you're right but that might have

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    been with the other kids too

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    you get what I'm saying like I just

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    think that the the internal [ __ ] is is

  • 1:16:36

    is needs to be known before we can

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    really address that

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    and some people on the inside got better

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    information I don't think none of it

  • 1:16:43

    should be known I agree with that in the

  • 1:16:45

    public I

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    agree none of this has to be put online

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    like that but every time we talk like

  • 1:16:52

    that I remember Lotto sitting here

  • 1:16:55

    saying yeah that we just don't get it

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    yeah this is the internet

  • 1:17:00

    that's how they communicate exactly

  • 1:17:02

    that's how they express themselves so I

  • 1:17:04

    always catch myself because we're seeing

  • 1:17:07

    that thing 50 Sun internet old head

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    [ __ ] no daughter internet oh yeah

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    [ __ ] do it nowadays [ __ ] that's 45

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    real [ __ ] quote on quote straight

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    [ __ ] quote unquote will take to the

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