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Are we recording? We're good, right? All right. Super lit. What's lit? Did he just say

that we're recording? We are recording, sir. Oh, no. You got to give me something. No, I didn't like the the start. I don't even like that start.

Nah, we can start here. Saw these and thought of you for the summertime. Those are nice. Those are nice and henny

poo-ish. I wouldn't wear them, but you All right. So, you said we live, right? Mic check 1212. Mic check 1212. We are

live. I am your host Joe Button. This is I Will Name This Podcast Later. Not to

be confused with the sports [ __ ] tards that are attempting to steal the name of my unnamed podcast. Don't think that you

low in the streets. I'm aware. It's uh I'll name It's some It's It's that later

or some [ __ ] I'll name the podcast to be named later. Yeah. Yeah. And suck our

dick. Hey, podcast could be later. Um, I have my uh not so beautiful

co-host uh Motty Morbody with me. Uh I have Tory Lanes, I mean uh

Rory Lanes with me. I'm sorry, not to be confused with uh King Lanes. So now, how

is everyone? I'm cool. We're not going to do this like last week where Marissa got to speak the whole [ __ ] time. I'm

rather energetic this week and and and uh just when I'm just when I'm lost for

content, the universe comes through. Back at it again with the content. Yep.

Yep. Damn, Joey. Back at it again with amazing content. Um but we will not

start um there. Uh are you guys in great spirits? I am in good spirits. Okay. I

took a today. I'm feeling great. Oh, lucky you. Lucky you. Um, what are you

going to do later on aderall? I took it earlier, like early in the morning. Oh, okay. Yeah. Out of big day at work just

to get through work. Oh, one of those. It keeps you like awake and stuff. Yeah, that's a like Yeah. Yeah. Aderal is

different. Yeah. No, we had a a shoot at an Airbnb uh for work and there's a cleaning fee, you know, with Airbnb.

When I took that Adderall, I said, "We can knock down this cleaning fee. I will clean this whole [ __ ] apartment right now."

So, uh, the other night, two nights ago, one of the greatest college basketball

games ever. We'll start there. That was amazing. Villanova versus North Carolina. I was totally

totally just glued to my television screen. There's really not too much to

say about this other than it was [ __ ] on college hoops on fleek. It was

championship game on fleek. That's what it was. It was great. It was [ __ ] great. It left me speechless so much so I don't even know what to say right now.

Oh man, look at Marty with the look at Marissa with the amazing sports report.

That was amazing. Marissa, that was to Michael. Shout out to Michael.

Yep. That's all I got. Yes. Let's get off of that. How about that? I'm not

going to let even you won't ruin my amazing mood. That's good. That's good. That I am in. What the [ __ ] is on your

finger? compound for the callous on my hand on my finger. Pug. Um, you're such

a hard worker. The Asian the Yeah, this comes from actually writing rhymes, unlike the new whippers snappers do

today. You just don't get in the booth. No, I don't. I write things down. Now, when I was in the nail salon, the the

girl told me to get some compound from CVS. They haven't. So, I've been using it and it's working. It works. I had a

big ass cow on my finger. Finger bang a chick with that on your finger. Oh, come on. Not really the big finger banger

dude. I don't know what was in you guys' cereal this morning, but Rory, even you won't ruin the phenomenal move I am in.

Dyes on the train talking about finger banging each other. And that is exactly why this is my bunch.

I don't want to hear that [ __ ] It's very true, but I don't want to hear that [ __ ] I don't want to hear about y dikes on the train finger banging. So, let's

get the gossip out the way so we can get to the real the real uh meat and potatoes of of today. I'm finally going

to say it. The drama. Today I'm going to say it. Today I'm going to say what I've been maybe wanting to ask for quite some

time. Today I'm going to say it. Enough is enough. What is it? I know what it is, but not starting there. That's not

starting there. Not starting there. Um, so let's Come on. Give me all of the gossip [ __ ] that's happening in the world. Rob Kardashian are officially

engaged. Wonderful. Tiger's brother-in-law, uncles, child, god, sister, son, whatever the [ __ ] they are

now. Tiger will be his own son's uncle. Congratulations to the happy couple.

Yeah. Look how politically correct I am today. Congratulations to Black Chyna

and Rob Kardashian. Yeah. And that's it. I I I I'm just anxious to see who wins

this little game that the two of you guys are playing. I really do want to see the the winner of this. This is like

prime time chess to me. Like this is like I'm saddened that this has become

an integral part of my daily entertainment. I'm sad. I am. But

congrats. Summerjam Festival lineup was announced today. Oh yeah, we talk about that. I wasn't mad at it. I enjoy it.

Can you name it off since you worked there? Chance the Rapper, Tory Lane, Currency Designer, Post Malone, Davies,

Justine Sky, Douggee F, and Rotimmy. I'm not mad at that list. Well, [ __ ] Who's on the main stage? It'll be announced

Friday morning at 9:00 am on Ebro in the morning on Hot 96. All right, Marissa Young. Don't do that again. Young Tilla,

don't do that again. With the headliner. Uh, I'm thinking No, definitely not with the headliner. That was a joke. I think

Tiller Tiller will be on the main stage. I mean, if I think Future I think I could think

that that would behoove them. Yeah. Cool word. $10 word today, huh? It would behoove who? Hot 97 to put Future on. I

don't think he's ever done a summer gem. Well, his real peak last year would have been probably better than this year, but

he still has that. I feel like it's too early. I don't want to hear about Summer Jam right now. It's too early. It's not too early. It's just 25 degrees outside.

Literally two months away. That's what it is. Is that what it is? Mhm. Yeah. It's cuz it's winter outside. We're in

April, bro. It's April 5th and it's 25 [ __ ] degrees. This announcement actually is late. Usually they announce it in March. No, but I'm not one of the

guys that wants to talk about Summer Jam right when they announce it. Like, you got to give me You got to give me a

little Come on. Don't give me public and we definitely did this last year. We literally did two months ahead of time.

Yeah. Talk about Summer Jam the day of. You talk about the day after. We spoke about the Summer Jam lineups. There are

no Summer Jam lineups. Yes, there are. They announce it every year and like a big deal. So, what are the Summer Jam lineups today? I just told you it. I

thought that was the festival. I mean, the mainstage Summer Jam. It'll be announced Friday. I think Joe is

suggesting he wants to talk about it when the main stage is. Yeah, that's my point. When we spoke about this last year, it was announced that sometime

they always announce it together. This was the first year. Don't come bringing your [ __ ] high 97 ties to my pocket.

Who going to be on powerhouse? That's what I'm curious about. Word. Let's real

power in this [ __ ] All right. So, yeah. Now that I can stop being petty and making fun of um

Marissa, what was the other petty story that came out? I thought it was just the the Kardashian circus. Yeah, I didn't

really see much other petty. Was there other petty things? Yeah, Sarah Palin and Ailia Banks went at each other

today. No. No, they didn't. Trash because Ailia's [ __ ] And she read a

satire site that uh was a satire interview with Sarah who was saying something about like black should accept

slavery because they wanted it or some dumb [ __ ] like that. And so she went on a like tirade on Twitter, Ailia, saying

that she needs to be like uh gangbanged by um big black men and get a dick in

her mouth and all type of [ __ ] It just sounds really nasty. It was repug and That was disgusting. Sarah Palin wrote a

paragraph on Facebook and she was saying they need to come together and use their platforms for the greater good, but she's going to first make sure that her

daughter is not promoting like the anti-women [ __ ] that Ailia is spewing.

She kind of at the end I definitely didn't care. But well, it been a [ __ ] uh slow slow news week. It really it's

been a very slow news week to be honest. Yes, I was for CNN is congratulating Rob

Kardashian and Black Chyna on their Twitter. I knew where the world's going to [ __ ] Everything is going to [ __ ]

And I'm not one of those guys cuz I like that microwave entertainment [ __ ] I'm I'm into it. I talk to it. Talk about it. Whatever. A [ __ ] bio of CNN is we

hit the hardhitting news stories on Twitter and then they type Black China in the same breath.

How is that okay? There's a presidential election. Well, granted that might be a reality show as well and a circus. It

is. That's nuts. And I don't don't tell me it's just a quick tweet because

there's a a bigger picture here that CNN is doing that like their bossup or media

takeout. I mean, pop culture is pretty Is that pop culture? Yeah. Like

like Kim Kim and Kanye I All right. Maybe it is pop culture, bro. Rob

Kardashian who does absolutely nothing and a stripper. That wasn't a shot at strippers and an ex stripper. Yes.

congratulate them for their marriage on CNN. Yep, it happened. So, obviously,

it's something. I like when you guys put on your adamant voices. That was Rory's adamant that was cuz I'm scared for the

country. I'm terrified. You were passionate about that. He feels

a type of way. For real. I do. That's scary. I'm sorry to me. I mean, it's I

was I am I I too am scared of the country. um because I'm watching for a

different game and somehow I'll figure out how to segue this into my main uh topic of discussion today. Um so

pardon me, pardon me, pardon me, pardon, pardon. Now, I think what I've been trying to get to, it hit me like a brick

last night, I think, uh, on this podcast for quite some time, is that streaming,

right, is going to streaming will eventually do to television and music,

what Uber is doing to taxis, and what Airbnb is doing to hotels. H the world

is moving to a place where more technology is going to take over the

universe and more people will lose jobs. We we're seeing the signs of it now when I'm [ __ ] talking to a robot to leave

the supermarket now. That's been the case for quite some time. Okay. Right. So, bang. Let's start there. Now, that

led me to I in my in my old school traditionalist,

maybe stubborn way of thinking, I don't really stream very much. I have over 80,000 songs in

my laptop. I'd like I'd like to uh pat myself on the back for knowing music

somewhat, right? But the other day I streamed a song and then today I ended up streaming another song when Rory hit

the group chat and said New Drake. Now Drake has earned himself the right

for a lot of people to stop what they're doing when New Drake comes out. I

stopped what I was doing. I didn't but I was blogging so it actually went with what I was doing.

So that was what I was doing. Okay. So, you both had the stop what you were doing moment. Kind of a Jace. Jace.

Well, I just I actually bought it right away. I wasn't going to wait cuz I was on my phone and I was on the move. So, I just bought it on my phone, both of

them, real quick, and listened right there. So, I can't say I ran home and went on my laptop.

I didn't buy [ __ ] Okay. I feel like ladies and gentlemen,

um I can't start with my topic of discussion yet. I need to uh

what's the terminology that I'm looking for here? I need to preface I was just going to

[ __ ] say that. I need to preface with

some things. Now, with that said, what do we need to preface with? I guess I'm I'm talking to

adult people. That's number one. Um, number two, I do not have a horse in

this race or a dog in this fight or a dog in this fight. Um,

I have no opinion on this as of yet,

but I am going to argue one. Okay. Of course you are. This is the Joe we know

and love. Um, three,

I love Drake. Okay, I am on record, as I've said on

this podcast before, I'm on record with liking a lot of you [ __ ]

before other people liked you. I'm talking to a lot of you,

right? This is Mad Hipster. So I'm not I'm not bandwagonish

is what I'm saying. I am not sheep.

My opinion does not mean I waver one way or the other. Nor am I sensitive, nor do

I do well with sensitive people. So if I am about to offend anyone,

suck it. My bad in advance. I am still going to say what the [ __ ] I

have to say. I've needed to just present this theory. Mhm. I'm so intrigued for

quite some time now. Theory. This cannot be proven one way or the

other. But this is a podcast. So that's what you do on podcasts, especially ones that are hip-hop

oriented in some way or another. So, with that said,

I don't even know if I want to ask it yet. I am going to ask it. Okay, here comes

I'm going to start. I'm going to I'm going to start here. Hear me out.

Okay, I make very valid points. Um, sometimes you two can choose to grab the

other side of the debate, okay? Or you can just add to conversation. Okay.

Okay. Roy's putting his head on. He's ready. Have we seen

Drake Peak?

H I think that that question has been

floating around the universe for a little while

now. Let me give some people some information on who I am because I know

how you toddlers and whippers snappers and new [ __ ] think today. And because

a lot of y'all don't know me, you just know me from some [ __ ] tweets or some [ __ ] that you seen on your [ __ ] TV

when I was coming through the [ __ ] screen like an idiot, right? Let me tell you who I am. Well, that was pretty

innovative at that time. Don't Don't sell yourself short. very early on in mine and Drake's strip

club careers um as as professionals,

we've seen each other. And I went up to him and I gave him dab and I saluted him because I think light-skinned [ __ ]

should stick together and salute each other when you see each other. And he's been been doing so much amazing great

things for the light-skinned delegation. I wouldn't be a real [ __ ] if I didn't go up to him and salute him like a real

[ __ ] right? So that's what I did. But early early on, it's very early on. Um I said I said, "Yo,

you know, me and you were supposed to do a record." And he said, "Oh, let's do it." And I said, "Eh, not the same now."

And he said, "Why not?" And I said, "Well, because you're on everything like you wanted is almost like a single

now. It's like [ __ ] superstar. Not quite what I had in mind when I first heard you. So if we do it, I would like

it to be the saddest record of all time." what you and I truly do. And when

I say that, I mean what I first heard you do that I was so amazed at. That's important for me to let y'all know who I

am. Me. Oh, and let's preface this with some more [ __ ] Um, my point still

stands through the jokes. So, for argument sake, I'm agreeing with all the

jokes because people don't [ __ ] hear what you have to say. They just listen to who's saying it. So, Pump It Up was

whack. I'm whack and I can't do better than any of the people we about to talk about. Now, all of that's true and my

point still stands and I'm arguing it right now. So, has Oh, and you you're 40 and I'm 40. Yeah, you're 40. With that

said, then you're a one hit wonder. And that I said that too. Uh well, you can't really dress. You beat women. I said

that and well, I didn't quite say that, but okay. That they say that suit sometimes. Okay. And you old just like

in the strip club like we done what you guys kind of got what you guys are. I know. I

got it. I see where you guys are going. Great. Hey, all of that stuff for argument sake is true. Now, back to the

argument. Have we seen Drake peak?

Are you going to answer or do you want us to answer? And then you're going to go. I'd like us to discuss it. I don't

want I want us to add and I mean answer and discuss. Answer and discuss. That's

what I would like us to do. Um I think it's a bit too early. And I say that to say Drake is very album based in my

opinion and I need to hear views before I say he has peaked. If views is subpar

then you can make a good good solid argument that he has peaked because his last record was Drake is not let me just

let me just u correct you there. Drake is not album based. He's just great in every area. So he's you anticipate a

full Drake album. I think we're saying the same thing. Drake singles. uh Drake mixtape like he's just great in so many

places you know body of work he's not amigos like where we just really love

his singles we love his albums and that's really why he has that big core of a fan base and why he is number one

at the moment so I'm saying we need to judge him off his whole body of work because we know he's capable of creating

great body of work if Migos put out a bad five bad signals I'm going to say all right they done you say that about Migos but you have some artists who we

look forward to their body of work and their singles don't work. That's the

that's that's album based to me. So, when you're great at both, you're just great. There's no need to specify uh

album based. I don't know if Drake is album based, but Okay. But you could be hit or miss with singles. I think

Drake's full body of work is going to show us where he's really at with it. I'm I'm talking as someone who is just

passionate about music and who is a ultra mega fan of Drake Jay and Hoveve.

Were you not a fan? I judge them. I judge them differently. If those If those at Hoveve Oh, you said Drake, Jay,

and Hoveve. Oh, I'm sorry. Drake, maybe I missed. I'm sorry. I didn't like that record, by the way. Hove. We'll get to

that. Now, all I'm saying is those three uh men are phenomenal.

I don't think that should be argued. Nope. If those are the three names that I'm hearing on a record, that's not the

record I want to hear. Mhm. I don't want to hear that. I hate it. I hate everything about it. It's like a

microwave blessings. That's what it sounds like. It's like hot pocket blessings.

It's like It's like [ __ ] blessings. It's like Yeah. It's like Insta blessings. Wait, are you hating on

young uh what was that whack ass line? Uh ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ching T. Yesing

on chaining Tatum. Chaining Tatum. Now normally chaining normally now normally

Drake does this Drake does this where he puts out the one record for these idiots

over here and then this record over here for So but now I also have which out of

those two records was for the idiots? Well, the the this [ __ ] hot pocket [ __ ] Oh, that's for the idiots. All

right. And then One Dance is not. Yes. Cuz I love One Dance. That should be a good radio record. One Dance is not for

the idiots. No. Well, typically, hasn't he done in the past where do the pop record and then he'll do like some

rapping and [ __ ] for the rest of us like with the All Me [ __ ] with Sean. Exactly. Exactly. He does that a lot. Yeah. Yeah.

And And I want to take back I want to take back idiots cuz I'm not trying to offend anybody and that is just how I talk. A lot of you don't know that. So

he does one for one and one for the other. I get that. Now I also hate the

same way I hate Trapper Drake. I really hate Trapper Drake, too. I'm not tired of Danceole Drake. I'm not. This is

where we disagree. I enjoy dance. Cuz we agree we both hate Trapper Drake. Nah. What has been a bad dance hall record

for? I'm a [ __ ] And so [ __ ] like fun dance. None of them. None of them. Rory, it's Drake and it's dance hall.

It's never going to be a bad record. Mhm. It's never going to be a bad record. So, why are we sick of it?

Controller. Controller, right? Like it. Um, work. We'll put it in there even

though it's not his record. Still a dope. Well, Rihanna really carried that [ __ ] One one dance. The [ __ ] that came

out today. One dance. He's done some more dance hallish type of [ __ ] Uh, on

Thank Me Later, the [ __ ] he did with Kanye. Um, this isn't new. I mean, he's always had that influence just because

people in Toronto, there's so many West Indians in Toronto. Everyone is influenced by that culture. I'm clear on that. Hey, I don't want to I don't want

to be misconstrued in what I'm saying. This is my main point. Drake came in and

dominated as a breath of fresh air. Something so different. He was like um a

hybrid. He was a hybrid MC. He was like a [ __ ] a stretch five. like Anthony

Davis or some [ __ ] right? F just follow me where where I'm going here. I'm listening. So So that is how he came in,

right? A lot of people would say Take Care is his best album, right? I would

say so. And I think 99% of the people would agree with you. Okay. Now, this is where the whisper started. What album

came after that? Uh if you're reading this, it's too late. No way. No way.

Nothing was the same. Nothing was the same. Nothing was the same. I'm sorry. Face in the clouds. Yeah. Nothing was the same. Nothing was

the same. I'm sorry. I love that album. I do too. Some people say it came and went

for a a Drake standard. It did. Yes. Yes. This conversation is to be held at

his standard. Mhm. Not mine or anyone else's. His Yeah. Not a Joe Button standard. No. Really? Cuz I want to have

a serious conversation about this. Yeah. Um [ __ ] uh So, yeah, I love that album. Let me be clear. But a lot of

people say it came and went. What album came after that? Now it's the uh if you're reading this

is too late too late. Nothing was the same. That was you and I were together when that came out. We

were coming from wherever we were coming from and we rushed home cuz you and I are big Drake fans. Mhm. That was uh

like February 2018. It was on Valentine's Day and we played that [ __ ] I have I have an amazing I have an

amazing BS entertainment system that that plays audio just tremendously and

very loud. I'm a musician. I need to hear loud music. Me and Rory went to the crib at [ __ ] 2 a.m. and put

that [ __ ] on and I immediately said what? You didn't like it? Not for me. Well, we even tried to give it that

whole weekend when we was going out for Allstar. We played it the whole time cuz we thought maybe we missed something. Well, maybe first listen. Now, now I'm

not saying that it's not joints on there. I'm not saying that either because this is Drake. We're on a Drake

standard right now. Drake is going to always have a joint. He's That's what he

does. It just wasn't for me. So, I went on this whole bashing I hate [ __ ] Trapper Drake. I [ __ ] started hitting

[ __ ] in the OVO, please. And let me just hear like some rap some like just some rap [ __ ] Just something rap. What

came after that now? Time out. Now, in between I'm getting uh Drake on My Way.

Yeah, Hotline Bling. M I'm getting Highline Bling is more current, but I

want to just it's a lot of it's a lot of records somewhere in between. If I really have to get deep into this and

paint the chronological order of some events that occurred. Um well, the

future wave kicked and he hopped on that. Well, I mean, if I go in in deep, I start with the mumblings of a weekend

Drake beef. Mhm. I'm going that far back because I'm putting the peak, if I'm

taking that side of the argument, I'm putting the peak at Take Care. Mhm. And

that was the album that The Weekend was heavily involved in. And all I know that happened after that is that The Weekend

left. Mhm. And I know that The Weekend has done rather [ __ ] well since leaving

music-wise. Very, very well. Since Take Care, I think he has Weekend has a better album than Drake has put out

since Take Care 1,000%. I don't think that can be argued. Well, well, it can be argued cuz it's I'm but I don't want

to have this conversation with stands. I want to have this conversation with people who can objectively respond. Um,

so now, okay, after if you're reading this is too late, after that came the future joint, right? Yeah.

Not for me again. Me neither. Not for me again. And while I appreciated the two

hottest rappers doing a joint cuz I'm with the Unity and and that whole thing

and all of that, some some people wondered why those two would be doing an album.

Some people wondered who did that make sense for. Future was

already the hottest thing in the universe. Drake is already Drake. Granted, they were on the road together,

but they music don't even merge. I'm telling you what some people said.

Nobody heard this. I did. Okay. I just I just want to make sure I'm on an even

kill the whole time. I want to be objective the whole way through. The best and the hottest at the time.

What's after this [ __ ] future [ __ ] The future album. That's when Hotline Bling starts hitting. That's when the

Drake uh Meek [ __ ] Well, that's still in between that time. When did What a Time to Be Alive come out. End of last year

because Hotline Blink came out last summer. Yeah, but it didn't really c it was actually a slower catch than it's given

credit for. Yeah. I mean, the video came out What a Time came out September 20th, 2015. Okay.

Okay. So, that was the last project we've heard. Mhm. So now homeboy,

they leaked these songs, right? They leaked the songs from views

allegedly. The ones last week, two weeks ago. Yeah. Okay. With the pimpy and [ __ ] Um,

those aren't finished products, so I won't speak on them at all. Nope. But these two today

were planned. I think that if there were ever, so this is my main point. Point

number one. If there were ever a time to say

if Drake is the DH, we need a hit. I don't mean hit as in hit record because

he does that. So, I don't want anyone to misunderstand me. In baseball terminology, the DH is the designated

hitter. His only job is to hit. So, one job. A lot of people would say, and I'm

seeing it more than I've ever seen it, that he would need to really deliver on

views. I don't know what the or what is. Well, when you're at that level of success,

I'm really waiting to Wait, don't respond yet cuz then I'm going to forget my other point. Okay, go. So, that was

point number one. And what I'm also saying is number two, I just miss the

Drake that started the waves, not carried the other ones.

Okay, that's what I mean. I like Controller

and I like One Dance, but I you know I could I could if I had

a nickel for every time some random reggae [ __ ] took a hard that hard dance

hall beat and just started mumbling some [ __ ] that and I loved it. I'd be like a billionaire. That's a lot of money. It's

a But I'm saying that's what dance hall I know. Yeah. Does to me. I hear that a

lot in dance hall. So now if I'm taking the greatest [ __ ] rapper uh many say

today cuz Drake today I I think is akin to Jay from my generation.

Damn. It is. Damn. And if somebody wants to debate me there, I'm open for that one too. I I debated at the nothing was

the same time that he was on a much quicker path than Jay was. He was farther in his career at that time than Jay ever was. But I mean it's comparing

apples and oranges. So different different game different time different but at the time he was on a better path

than Jay was at that point in his career. I don't know what to say with his last album if he is still on that pace. But I mean Jay ran into some road

bumps. Jay was not always Jay. There was some doubt every volume one came out. There was doubt.

All right. I just want to see where you're going with with this first. I would say a volume one was similar to uh

if you're reading this is too late. I'm I'm following you. Just put out a

classic, which I'm not saying Drake has a classic, but with reasonable doubt and the Rockefeller deal. Jay was up next

and then he put out some [ __ ] that sounded like old [ __ ] bad boy Biggie records after he died that wasn't his

sound and people hated it. He was going with what the sound was,

which wasn't him. And that's what Drake did with that trap [ __ ] And now we're all begging for for views

to sound like take care. All right.

I don't want views to sound like Take Care number one. Mhm. Like can't I think that Drake is talented enough to make

his best album soon. I don't think he's made his best album

if I'm just going off of his talent. Right.

That's one. Damn it. I be having so many [ __ ] points now. forgot my other [ __ ] point. You got a phone, right?

Oh, two. Oh, two. We don't We don't have to ever disagree on that. I am the I I I

am the one of the first people to say Drake follows in the Hoveve foot

blueprint of wave stealing.

Hove is the best wave stealer of all times. Of all time. If somebody would

like to debate me on that, I'm talking musically. I don't mean image-wise. Uh, and of course that's not Do you have

I don't disagree with you yet, but do you have points per album what waves he was taking at that time? I'm curious.

Well, we can talk to the whole tribe of people that say that he stole an entire flow from Young Chris. That's the only

one I could think of right off the top of my head that was confirmed like he kind of took his whole flow. H to the

ISO. Wait, time out. Time out. Boy, you missing a few things then. Cuz H to the ISO was Snoop's campaign.

Okay. that whole slang and terminology and all of that [ __ ] was snoop. Um, our

our Jay was I thought was in [ __ ] uh uh CTE at one point.

No, this is true. This is true fact what I am saying. Check check the record.

There was a time where you would have thought Jay and Jeezy were a group like 05. Yeah. There was also a time where

Jay and Ross, they was real tight, too. And we got a lot of records from that

wave. Why is your hand so shaky? Alcohol withdrawals. I don't drink during the week. And this is not And this is not

Please don't take this as me discrediting whole arguably the greatest.

But what I'm saying, I think, is is factual if you're old enough to remember these things. So Drake, now many could argue the same

thing. I'm not picking a side here, but many would say I mean, we've had many instances now with Drake. I was going to

say Kanye, but he does it on a lower level. Well, take someone not as popular and steal their whole [ __ ] The whole

thing he'll steal them. I would say yay would be up there. Yeah, but at least Kanye [ __ ] around and give you some credit

or a record deal like Say High the Prince. At least he'll at least he'll give you some credit for uh designer or

record deal or or I mean you get something out of the out of the jig. Oh yeah, Jay make you never exist again.

But I mean I want us to be honest and sometimes sometimes

a lot of people will think something and not say it. You guys cannot cannot cannot if you love uh if you are a fan

of Drake the way I have been since before so far gone. I don't mean a stand

just a fan who can think objectively. You cannot defend the [ __ ] chaining

chaining Tatum. Chain young Chaining Tatum. You can't

you can't. Now, I also because I comprehend well, I also get that I have

to maybe open my brain up because they're talking to an audience I've

never had to speak to and a lot of people never really had to speak to. That audience is wide. So, I do get

that. It's the same as uh Murder Mace and uh Cam uh and Mace saying, "All

right, I'mma go with Puff and do the commercial [ __ ] You stay in the streets and do the hardcore shit." So, we feed both audiences. will always have that

outlet. I do get that it's kind of the same as Fab uh uh Fabulous Sport and

Fabulous. I do get that it's two different. Do you understand what I'm saying? It's two different this Drake

audience. There may be an audience and I'm sure there is cuz as soon as that

other track was released, I immediately started seeing, oh, Drake wasn't playing

his summer 16. I said, well, damn. I know I'm old. I I

know. I know. Hey, everything that you could think of, I'm an overanalytical Virgo. I've already thought of it. I

know I'm old. I may just be out of touch. And this [ __ ] could be the most fierest [ __ ] in the universe, and I could just be the only one thinking

differently. But the same way that there's a big campaign about missing the

old Kanye, I am starting to miss the old Drake. And

since none of you [ __ ] will say it, and Drake already knows that I love him,

so I'm gonna just throw this out there and be who I am. Sometimes you [ __ ]

will take the garbage if you like the garbage, man.

It just is what it is. I mean, you guys are very selective with who you take

your trash from. And now that's an independent thought, an independent conversation, not to be associated or

affiliated with my previous Drake comments. I don't want to I'm compartmentalizing conversations

context. Keep up with me. I don't want you to go typing [ __ ] and ating [ __ ] with some [ __ ] that ain't true. And then

I start got to start getting texts where I got to start clarifying some [ __ ] that was there in plain English. Please keep up with me. My brain runs fast. Um, can

I make a point between the Drake and the Jay theory there or just Drake and what

he has to deal with now? Uh, per his I don't even know if they'd survive in this era. Jay comes up in a time. We're

just going to use Jay there cuz that's probably the closest thing we have to drink right now. He comes from a time

where you put an album out, tour, disappear. Put a single out, put an album out, tour, disappear. That's all

you need to do if you're great. We are now in a microwave era in the internet

era where you need to feed people. Our [ __ ] brains need things every 3 seconds. Things pass right away, even if

they're great. Drake has to cater to that era. Hence, what it's time to be alive. Hence, putting out these records

that he may not think are that great, but it's enough to feed the streets in the meantime until he puts out something

that he loves. I also understand that when you mass prodduce mass produce

that way sometimes the product is going to suffer, right? And that's and I

understand that part of it as well. I think that's a major part here. And he's dubbed them mixtapz, I think, for that

exact reason. Despite selling them, despite profiting off of them, he wants to be very clear that he's not taking his time to craft these things like he's

taking with views. Oh, I'm not saying you're wrong. I just didn't hear that part. What? Did he call

them mixtapz? No, that he wasn't taking time with the stuff that he's putting out and he's only focusing on views.

Aren't these on views? No. Oh, I was talking about those last two projects. I think he's going to take off or make a

bonus record out of that. Uh, Styles. I had I had an entire conversation. Pardon

me. I had an entire conversation with Roy,

right? I had a whole conversation with Royce when I was talking to him about my

uh Rage in the Machine project with Arab, right? And was that I'll name this

podcast later exclusive? Uh maybe maybe not. I've Instagrammed it about it. I've

just been been being very cryptic uh until product is somewhere near done.

But um but in that conversation I was saying to Royce I was saying yo I just

been oh Royce whose project comes out uh soon too. Layers 15 uh Layers is out

right this uh no not layers single layers. Yeah but that's the name of the album too but I know but I want to talk about Trust the Shooter. The Trusted

Shooter EP is out right now and then the album Layers is also out but you'll hear my voice again on this podcast before

that album comes out. So I'll be sure to get back to that. Um now single's good [ __ ] though. So, I'm talking to Royce

and I said, "Yo, it feels great. I just been going in the studio and just been writing [ __ ] down pretty much void of thought." Um, and he knows what I mean

because as MC's we're overly critical of our own stuff, lyricists especially. So, you over you overthink every [ __ ]

word. So, he was like, "Yeah, man. What's happening is

so much content is coming out constantly. It's faster than ever now on

the internet. I said, well, yeah, which is what makes it really easy. I don't

know what just happened, but it's fine. Which is what makes it really easy for, you know, lowquality music is what's in

uh and I'm not knocking that. I like it, too. I like lowquality music as well,

but let's call a spade a spade. A lot of it is lowquality music. I'm not talking

about if you're judging from the 21-year-old brain. High or [ __ ] perks, zies, mollies, uh, mushrooms,

[ __ ] K, uh, weed, loud, quiet, whatever the [ __ ] you put in you. I know

some of that music sounds really amazing when that stuff is inside of you. Trust me, I do. But that's not the gauge. That

person's brain is not the gauge. So lowquality music is in which means that some of the people who can turn over

that music rather quickly put out and produce rather quickly which lets my son say to me, "Hey dad, your album came out

in [ __ ] October and Young Thug has put out four projects in the last year." And now while I laughed at that, hey the

air that wind tunnel [ __ ] is really loud if we can do something about it. While I laughed at my child saying that, the

more I thought about it, kids think like that. They do. That is how kids think. Yo, the more the more time I spend with

my child, the more I easily understand all of the people who tweet me and call

me irrelevant, whack, a loser, a [ __ ] Hey, I agree with y'all. Y'all ain't

even old enough to remember when I was that [ __ ] I I get it now. Now that I'm hanging

with my child. But anyway, back to my uh my more broad point. Damn, what was my more broad point? What was we just

talking about? Uh mass-producing and putting out a lot of music at one time and the need to. No, I was getting

something after that. Being in the studio without having to think about it. Oh, yeah. My conversation with voice. Yeah. So, uh so you got to you kind of

got to do something to keep up because that's the generation and the climate that we are in. You you don't really

have time to sit and think about lyrics. You don't have time to. You got to go or

you'll be like me. Stuck putting out a project a year as opposed to two, three,

four, and five. I text Fab the other day. I said, "Yo, I need some shit." He said, "All right, cool. But I'm working on two projects right now." I said, "Why

the [ __ ] is you working on two projects right now?" He said, "Nigga, it's time to work." Bet you didn't ask him about the podcast, though. Well, him and I had

had an entire different conversation after that that shall remain anonymous. I've been having some pretty interesting

conversations with some pretty interesting people that will remain anonymous. But the day that these people are Oh man, you y'all going to hear

about it one day. But anyway, so my point is Fab who number one I will

forever remain in debt to for what he did for me at the start of my career. uh one and two someone who I always applaud

as having been having having he's he's the closest thing that that I have seen to LL CoolJ today in the sense that I

saw Fab be the man Mhm. at some level in

1997. Damn, he's been around. That's so dope.

I then saw Fab drop his and I believe that things change in 5-year intervals.

I then saw Fab drop his debut album on September 11th when the World Trade

Center fell and when Blueprint came out as a brand new artist. Times were

different then. He did that successfully. He then stayed hot through the the rise

and fall of the Jersey era, right? He then found a way to stay hot when [ __ ]

thought all he could do was rap about [ __ ] And some say uh Drake kind of

came and stole some of his talk about the [ __ ] thunder. He then reinvented himself again and turned into a

different fab. So when I say fab is the closest thing I've seen to Lok CoolJ today. I've seen fab from when I first

heard him now go through a few different eras in hip-hop cuz today the errors are moving a lot more rapidly than they did

back then. Well, you said five years, I say two. Yeah. Today the errors change quickly quickly. Quickly. Uh, everything

is, you know, microwave would be an understatement. I'm just waiting for trap to die.

Wait, so now what was I saying? Rest in peace, F dog. Well, what was I getting to before I just talk about that fab

[ __ ] I don't remember. I don't remember. I didn't take water.

I told you sometimes I get too many thoughts. But the point is that nigga's working on [ __ ] two [ __ ] project.

I don't have time for the [ __ ] can't don't have time, you know? I almost don't have time to be a lyricist, you know?

too busy podcasting, a lot of work.

Still, I think I found a good way to walk a line to walk a to walk the line.

And again, you know, and this has been a reoccurring topic on on on this podcast for quite some time. just the effect

that the trend is having on on some of the elder statesmen, you know, not just

in hip-hop with rappers and producers having to adjust to a certain sound or

shift in sound or or anything sonically period. Uh but again, journalists having

to adjust to this new wave of [ __ ] you know, anybody with a laptop and

Wi-Fi being a journalist. Mhm. You got to combat that. Like times are a

changing like quickly. And again, I was having this talk with my father like like remember tell me kind what what

kind of um phone did you have uh 10 years ago? Uh I had a start. What type of phone did you have 10 years ago? Oh

[ __ ] A flip. Oh wait 10 years ago was 0506. A Nexel. Yeah. Samsung flip or

something. I had an Xtail. I had the chirp chirp. 10 years don't seem like that longer. No. That's crazy. That's

the end of high school. Yeah. Next tail. I don't do a lot of different [ __ ] now. I could see a lot of things being

different in in 10 years from now. I see a lot of [ __ ] being different a year from now. Yeah. But in 10 years, I could

just really see like some amazing Man, I don't want to talk about it cuz I'm not going to start depressing people. It's

important that you get out there and vote. I will say that it's important that you get out there and vote. It's important that you get out there and

vote. And I'm not even the oh, it's [ __ ] campaign time, so let me [ __ ] plug plug plug plug. I've never been that guy my entire career. But it's

important you get out there and vote now. Do you guys have an answer to that uh

question that I proposed earlier? Is Drake going to speak after all that? No. Now it wouldn't be as he peaked. Has he

peaked? Has he peaked? I agree with Ro have to hear with someone with such a

great disography and for the past when did Drake when so far gone? 09. Even but

even you saying I have to hear views lends credence to my argument because it

says it says he's not really going in with the momentum we're used to. I totally Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. But with

someone with such a a great past, you can't just put that to them that quick.

Someone that has done that many great things, you still have to give them that benefit of the doubt until it's

consistently becoming that way. And he's so okay. You're talking to somebody who it's consistently been that way for for

a little while now. But he's so calculated. Like I feel like he might like he you're talking to somebody who

very much like you. When I see Drake's name, I just download it. I don't bother listening to it cuz it's just fire. It's

just fire already. But you just said that we did that. Wait, time out. But you know that about me. So But you're

still doing that. Time out. But you know that there's no hater in me. And I have to say that to you cuz these people

listening, they don't know me. It could sound like just light-kinned on light-skinned hate to a idiot. And it's

important that this is not for idiots. So

with you knowing I'm that way, it's been that way with me for a while. I haven't rushed to I haven't rushed to download

even today. I didn't buy that [ __ ] I Well, you're also, and this isn't an age

joke, you're 35. He's catering to the 20 to 28 era and

that's what's working right now. My timeline was going was only talking about that drink [ __ ] and that hasn't

changed at all. So to say that he is completely peaked and you can't give him the benefit of the doubt that views may

be great. Whoa. I never said that this should be a memorandum on how views will sound. I'm talking about going into it

for the masses. He still does. for you. May maybe not, but the masses. Yes.

Okay, Rory. That's what we're predicting. So, yeah, you're right. But

we're predicting. Of course, to the masses today, he still does. No, you ask me if you think he's peaked. I'm talking

about musically. I don't care about what people are saying. I'm talking about, do have we heard the best of Drake music

from Drake? In my opinion, no. That's what I mean. But to the masses, he hasn't skipped he hasn't skipped a step.

to me. Yeah. But my personal opinion is not the majority. The majority is he has

not skipped a step. Everyone immediately went to download that Drake [ __ ] Stop what they was doing. Tweeted about it

right away. Midway through the song. Well, that's cuz he demands that. But that don't speak to the the the uh

greatness or non greatness of the song. Like those are two different arguing points.

Everybody stopping to do stopping what they're doing and listening to the song which we agree on happens. That don't

speak to whether the [ __ ] song is amazing or not. It is a good song.

One dance, but his single right now is Hotline Bling, which was the biggest

record in the past few years. So, so you can't really say that he's

peaked cuz he just put out a smash. Well, in the other little intricate

freestyles, he may not be grabbing you. Come on, Roy. You know what the detractors say about Drake and that

Hotline Bling record. So, it's not really even fair that you bring that up in in this argument because that lends

to my argument and I don't want to talk about that cuz I don't want to believe that yet. But we're getting more and

more voices coming out. I'm not talking about that nor want to put that in this conversation. Yeah, I don't want to talk

about it either. But when you talk about hotline bling, I have to talk about that. So, I don't want to talk about my

blood. Me neither. But it's I mean, you still can't take that out of the equation because it's a smash single.

Like, it's huge. Well, that's why Well, that's why off of this podcast and I can't say he's peaked because he just

put out a huge record. Well, that's why off of That's a good record musically.

It's a good record. That my response to that is going to be bad,

which we just said we wasn't going to talk about and then you followed it. We're talking about it. Well, who's to say with the One Dance? You could say

the [ __ ] with Same with The One Dance. Just cuz people are coming out now. If we're going to go that route, then you

could say that about his other smash goes way back when. That's why they didn't want to bring it in here because there's no actual evidence. But we're not talking about way back then. I'm

only talking about from Take Car here moving forward. That's all. Well, you alluded that when the weekend left

that his sound changed. It did. And his momentum changed. It did. It did. So we

are bringing that into the conversation then. Oh wait, what are we saying now? Oh

people because we were saying that's his peak right and you were saying the weekend was heavily involved in that and

that is what you are saying is his peak is take care which I do agree with you at this moment that is the best thing he has put everybody should agree that take

care is the peak. So to say so to say that you can put the weekend into the take care when you're saying when he's

peeking you can't then just not put it with hotline bling and say oh someone might have wrote it so we can't put that in this conversation because you're

putting the weekend into the take care peak that you just said I have to All right and I'm going to close with this

since you're making me do a timeline. All I'm telling you is this. I'm not

saying that yo since the weekend left that [ __ ] [ __ ] been crazy whack. I'm

not saying that. I don't think you are. All right. What I'm saying is this. Take care is peak Drake at his finest his

best body of work as of today. The consensus would be right

since then. I've heard Trapper Drake for a lot of years now. I've heard dance hall Drake

for a lot of years now. I've heard Drake on a Fetty wave. I've heard Drake on a I

Love Canon Kimon Machonin wave. I've heard uh Drake on a Tanashi wave. I've

heard Drake on I could tell you all of the waves that I have heard Drake on and

nothing really seeming to be quite like. Then you have the rumblings of the two Houston kids saying whatever they said.

I don't know cuz I didn't believe too [ __ ] I don't believe that [ __ ] So I paid no mind. I'm just telling you the rumblings that are in the air. We have

party tweeting that he had a project coming out [ __ ] last year and that project is still nowhere to be found.

He's been quiet at the church mouse. We would have to assume he's working with Drake on views, right? We have party who

wrote the work record for Rihanna. So I could say that Drake knows that work record is about to be number one in

advance. Hence him running to the studio and making mad replicas of that record. Of course.

So now with all of that information in the can, and I'm saying this as a Drake

fan, when I look back to the peak and I say, "Well, what happened then? What was

going on back then?" The only thing relative to it is, "Oh [ __ ] the

weekend's left." That's all I'm saying. I don't have any inside information. And

I would never I'm not and Drake is a [ __ ] superstar now. So I'm not mad at

[ __ ] writing for him. He don't he's he's reached that level for me. Like I

think that's what my problem is. It's like when you when you have somebody that you [ __ ] love and only you know

about and then too many people know about. I've never fallen victim to that. But now I feel like Drake is a dance

hall superstar. He's a reggae dong superstar. I'm dead ass. These are the

This is the music that me, a Day One Drake fan, has gotten. Um, rea [ __ ] Drake. I've gotten uh Trapper [ __ ]

I've gotten every Drake but the Drake I fell in love with.

Why? He's progressing in his career. Yay did the same thing. He just did it better. He progressed. He changed the

sound. Going with the times. Yeah. I mean, I'm not suggesting it's better or

worse, but that is what he's doing. He's progressing with the sound that is relevant now. While maybe it could have stayed

relevant if he would have stayed to the Take Care so far going Drake created the sound now. I'm not into But don't do

that, Rory. Don't do that. Me and you [ __ ] cringed when we heard [ __ ] Jay-Z doing uh uh a two chains flow. We

cringed. So now don't So now So now don't come now. Don't do that. Don't don't don't do that. How is he not

progressing with the sound? The trap sound. Drake didn't invent the trap trap sound.

I'm not I'm not agreeing with his moves. I'm telling you what he did. That's

evidence. That's just pure there. I'm not saying it's good or bad or I agree with his moves or way he should have done it or not. Trap was [ __ ]

relevant. He didn't need to do it, but he did it. That's why I did it. Drake has created a whole genre of a subgenre

of music. the Drake that I'm talking about that I love, not the Wavechaser Drake. It's two

different drakes. And I don't want to ever refer to an MC and artist that

great that way. It sickens me anytime we do it. When we say it's two different

hoes, two different cams, two different Waynees, two different We're saying the same thing. I hate it all. We're saying

the same thing. I'm just telling you what happened. He He went with the sound that was relevant. All right. But no, I

would have loved if he would have [ __ ] took uh all the Majid Jordan [ __ ] all the party sound, all [ __ ]

all Bryson Tiller and made Views from the six like that because that is the OO sound. I would have preferred that, but he didn't do that. He didn't trap [ __ ]

and let them get that lane. I forgot about that. Majid Jordan is in my ear earlier argument about all of this too

about waves cuz that's important. Waves or music? No, about

miss. Well, I think that was probably why their album was not as good. And I do believe and they're working on views.

And you know what? And and I'm saying all of this just to have content on a podcast just because it's food for

thought if you're open-minded enough to just really look at their inner intricate inner workings of [ __ ] that's

happening. But, uh,

I do believe that people behind the scenes are are angry with Drake.

I do believe that. Mhm. I believe it when he's saying those things that he's

saying about executives or higherups doing whatever the [ __ ] they're doing. So, like I understand his predicament. I

do. To piggy back off that, can we ask why

Jay did one line on that record?

Namesake. But why? Because that's because that's pretty monumental. Um, but why do it

that way? The three of them. They're all intelligent. Why? It was like when they did Black Republican. I was like, why

Jay and Nas? Why? You didn't like Black Republican? I liked it, but that I mean, of course, I had the [ __ ] dream. Oh,

yeah. Come on. I love success. I love love love success. Of course, we love success. This is [ __ ] success. Black

Republican kind of got a lukewarm recession. Took like four minutes to just get a verse. Yeah. That dope. I

think they took man long uh bringing the beat and um pardon me. Me as an MC, I

miss uh I do miss those days where the beats came in and rocked for mad long.

Like on that record that we was just talking about. What record was that? Black. Black Republican. Yeah. But the beat just rocks for mad long. Clapback.

That's another one. When you know you just got a smoker of a beat and you just remember clapback coming on.

Oh, I was tight on uh Life of Pablo on Famous when Even Yay says Swiss said

let the beat ride and he let it ride for like a bar. I was like, "So what was it before

Swiss? Let the beat ride." Yo, when you let the beat ride, my [ __ ] you got to let the beat ride. You just got to let

the beat ride. Jesus. Mary and Joseph. All right. Am I missing anything? Am I missing anything? I want to put that

argument to bed. I want to wish all of these brothers uh nothing but success,

more success, cuz these people are already successful. But yeah, I just just food for thought if you're just watching the [ __ ] war going on inside

of music right now the way that I am. So, I have to ask these things.

All right. Did Oh [ __ ] Did I miss anything? I don't think so. No, not I can think of anything else. Muddy, is

there anything exciting happening this week that I must talk about?

Nah, doesn't really feel like that. Easter was kind of muddy. Easter. Oh, yeah. That was two weeks ago, right?

Yeah. A little bit late. Yeah, we were in LA for Easter. Oh, that's nice. Yeah, it was two weeks ago. We're going back

to LA, right? Yeah. May. They announced the candidates for the double XXL freshman cover like last week. I don't care. Like a thousand of them. I don't

care. I don't care. I don't care. Got to wait till they narrow it down. Damn. They kind of lost credibility on that. Yeah. I used to be so great. Yeah, I I

don't care. I don't know if that's Double XL's fault. I'm not saying it's anyone's fault. They just lost it. You

know, I I understand the business aspect of things. It just sickens me because a lot of these upand cominging kids um

they call me for advice and they be really excited about getting some of these some of these accolades like the uh double XXL freshman cover. And

because I know it's business and how it works, you know, it just puts me in an awkward uh position predicament every single time. So, I don't really care

about that. I don't I don't care. I don't care. Me and Rory went to a bar on Sunday. Oh, let's quickly go through

this. The squad. The squad is in uh in trouble, man. No, they're not. You

called it from Jump. No. What happened? Yo, Marty might be getting kicked out of

the squad. I It's my squad. I can't stand this conversation. She's been kicked out the squad. No. No. So,

against my better judgment, we go to ringside. It's me, Motti, and Samira. Samira is

part of the squad. I think by accident she's been on this podcast or yelling in the background.

Joe, have you ever seen the clip of Kelly Roland saying, "I am the second lead vocalist of Destiny's Child." And

Beyonce coughs and then gives her a side eye. Yes. I am asking the history of the

squad to Samira. I said, "Oh, I didn't know. I thought you knew Marty from

childhood." She says, I said, "No, I only knew Samir for a year." Yeah, I only knew Samir for a year. I said, "Oh,

it's crazy. How'd you get into the squad?" She said, "Well, me and Danielle are best

friends." And then Motti, corner of my right eye,

throws the side eye right at her and I'm left speechless.

Really wasn't a side eye. It was. There's nothing to it. It was 1,000% a best friend. You are best friends.

But I told you there's some weird synergy going on. There's never weird synergy. I don't go out much. Are we seeing the demise of the squad before

our very eyes? You guys are the most annoying [ __ ] people in the world. I don't go out much. Period. That's it.

They go out a lot. I don't like doing the [ __ ] that they do half 90% of the time. Your tone is way too aggressive

because you guys keep saying this to me and I keep saying So that's why your tone's aggressive. Yes. So, so clearly the aggressive tone was not changing

anything, but still your tone remains aggressive. That's phenomenal. Whatever. Oh, well,

Marty got me a PBA card out of it. Oh, yeah. I was flirting with some cop and he gave him a PBA card. Thanks, cop. And

that's all your flirting is good for. Pretty good. I'm He bought me two drinks and he gave Rory a PBA card. PBA cards

don't hold the same weight that they used to. No, they don't. They really do. I feel like they just print them [ __ ] and giving them out like Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Back in the day out the gym. Not now, boy. Be careful

out there. It's rough. Before they used to be like, "All right, who you related to?" Like they'd care. Now they just look at your license and run your [ __ ]

And I never used I got like a laminated thing from my dad's uh trooper friend. Hi, Vanessa. Sis, I know you listening.

Just don't say hi to people you know listening. Yo, so uh damn, that would be so bad. Hey, Cleveland. But listen, shut the [ __ ] up, Marissa. I'm saying hi to

people. No. Yo, so I'm having a conversation with a a older woman who shall remain anonymous uh via text and

I'm having to answer for all of the embarrassing things that have ever occurred in my life. Like my loving hip

hop vest. She been killing you. Um dating Kayn and Tahiri. Not embarrassing. Shout out to them. They're

good people. It's embarrassing when you're speaking to people your age. When I'm not a real When I'm not

speaking to children, it's embarrassing. Was love you. Love was never embarrassing.

It was beautiful. You guys are It was It was It was

beautiful. Embarrassing things. Well, embarrassing a Jace. It's something in that ballpark.

Very good women. There's nothing embarrassing about having been in love with them at that one time. Yeah. It wasn't right for you. It didn't work

out, but there's something wrong with it. They're good people and it was good for what it was. No, you're wrong. I I

get I get that you're you're a little younger as well, but you're wrong. When you're speaking to 40 year olds, a

35year-old putting its dick in a 20-year-old is creepy. I mean, it is creepy. It always was. We don't have to

defend it. There's something creepy about you then. So, I'm trying to help you out here even though you still But

you weren't 35. No, but trying to help you as a friend, man. Let's see. 33.

No, 32. All of it is ne. My point still stands.

So I mean what I'm saying is nothing for you and I to argue about. I get your point. I'm not saying that these people

are bad people. Yeah. I'm just talking about how it's viewed. Your behavior maybe how it's viewed. Yeah. Me I

thought older women love denim. She went into your vest.

No. It was a nice vest, man. People People, you know, it's just a joke. People really liked it. No, this [ __ ]

got a lot of jokes. She been killing you. I'm off it, man. I'm getting my ass

kicked in this [ __ ] uh Oh, and I ain't about to piss Vanessa off cuz Vanessa going to hear someone's podcast

and think something else is going on and then something else going to be happening and then she's going to block me. Yeah. Well, you're should be blocked

already still. No, she unblocked me. We're friends now. Oh, she did? Why do people do that? They always block people that are your friends. You know what I

realized about Vanessa? We're going to get out of here after this, but this is what I realized about about Vanessa. Or this is what Vanessa helped me realize

about me. I love crazy. You You just realized I love crazy. I love it. It's kind of

entertaining. Like it's kind of dope a little bit if it can be controlled. You're [ __ ] nuts. You're crazy. And that's why you love crazy. Well, if I

am, I wouldn't know it cuz I take crazy people. Yo, next time next time you rap, just hit playback and listen to

yourself. Valid. Shouldn't have taken you this long. Sleeper song of the week. Oh, well, I just finished hitting

playback on the show. And all I heard was Uncle Joe. Uncle Uncle Shelly sound

to wash down. Gross. Shut up. Mummer. All right. Our

sleeper songs of the week.

[Music]

Oh sh [Music] Oh [ __ ] I don't want to call Johnny.

Mine's kind of slow. I don't know if I want to play. I want to kill the vibe. So Joe and Rory, you guys should both should have heard of this song. Um, this

is for Ty Dollar newer fans that don't know about his older work. That's super [ __ ] dope. And this is honestly my

favorite song ever made by Ty Dollar. We're gonna hear you on. We hear you. I

just was talking. Okay. Well, we're gonna play over my

Yes.

[Music]

Stupid. You know I can't. You know I can't. No. I can't. Stop acting stupid.

You know I can't I don't think that's [Music]

one thing. I don't think too long.

Baby, we've been talking on the phone. Let me not do this now. Now we have to answer this for So that's Tital Sign

Know Why I came. It's on his first Beach House. Beach House one. I like Beach House one. And yeah, that's my favorite

of the two. Um, he said his next album's going to be called Beach House 3, by the way, which would be amazing cuz that

series was super dope. But, um, yeah. Ty Dollar sign. No. Why is that a First of all, why is that a sleeper? That's a

joint. That is a [ __ ] joint. That's [ __ ] uh King Dollar sign. These new fans don't know anything about

this. They know [ __ ] Orna and uh Blas Blas. Yeah, it's really sad. You didn't know about it until a couple months ago.

So, let's start there. Well, I'm knew about it, James. Monty making [ __ ] Beach House one

sound like it came out in '94. Came out in 2012. These young kids. They don't even know his old stuff. Uh, let's see.

Who do I want to go with this week? Did Rory do one yet? Yeah, but make my

transition easier cuz what? Mine is not going to transition well from that title. I'm not playing a record. I don't

do all that [ __ ] player records. You have before. No. Play record. Just do it. I got to find a record. Stop raging

against the machine. Hey, cuz now I have to take my phone case off the phone. Oh my god. This becomes a big production

with thumbs like that. I understand. Shut the [ __ ] up. Super knocked out.

Now, now that I'm doing this, this adds mad [ __ ] pressure, man. It is mad pressure. Oh, you know what? Is it

possible? We're totally going to resent you if this [ __ ] sucks. Is it possible to do a uh a Justin Bieber sleeper song?

Is that even Does it even exist? Uh, unless he made it in like '08.

You know what, man? I'm going commercial, man. [ __ ] it. Since y'all

put me on the spot, selling out. At least I have integrity with this

series. Uh, now I changed my mind.

Oh, talk to him, Chris. What happened?

That [ __ ] Oh, man. Hook. Hey. All right. All right. All right. All right.

You know him and uh that's a joint. That [ __ ] Chris is talented, man. All right.

All right. Well, this will be