64

mike check 1212 Mike check1 1212 I'll

name this podcast later episode number

64 I'm your host Joe Buton to my right I

have M more body how are you great to my

left I have Rory Lan what's up how are

you I feel great e we're being serious

I'm being very serious today we start

with rest in peace of of feni Shakur

absolutely um that's very important um

unfortunately I can't exp expound on

that today because today is important

today my birthday right oh happy

birthday time this goes out this it'll

be my birthday yeah it is it is R

birthday tomorrow one happy excited yay

I'm a little excited Michael Roar 26

years old wow and yet you still find a

way to be 12 in your head 26 at midnight

wonder what's next for me hey

segue no no so listen you got to work on

that work on that Hy views views views

views has

consumed my life since its release

everywhere that I go every person that I

see no matter the age no no matter where

Drake transcends hip-hop so in small

talk it was Barber Shop talk everywhere

when he put something out you stop what

you're doing right absolutely yeah and

the line everywhere was so what did you

think of yous of course literally

between everybody I was trolling women

all weekend saying that Drake got

Beyonce the [ __ ] out of here yeah one

day yeah cuz there wasn't any more

lemonade this it was views did you hear

it did you hear more so I feel like like

lemonade is a women conversation you

heard or men to a woman what you think

of lemonade but this is universally like

everybody to know well now let me just

let me just add my perspective to that

um yeah we all stopped talking about

lemonade and started talking about uh

views one but Beyonce's job was done oh

absolutely oh I don't I'm not taking

that away from we're not done talking

about that album we're going to be

talking about

absolutely H yeah it was a troll and I

want to be clear beehive I was I just

mean I just mean generically I don't I

don't mean like the specific you know

what I'm saying but I'm just like

everybody wants to know who think people

now that people that listen to this

podcast enough and people who uh I don't

talk music with everybody so the people

some people online know I'm I never ever

ever give an opinion on music right

away that's just not how I choose to

interpret and receive and process and

digest music because maybe because I'm

an artist myself I just I put more stock

into what artists are going through when

they create their project these people

are putting their mind heart and soul a

lot of times a lot is at stake a lot of

times family relationships falter a lot

of times you know we have to

self-medicate artists go through a lot

to create so I never ever want to just

judge just the music I like to know

where people are some artists you'll

never be able to tell some artists you

can sometimes that that's their whole

thing as an artist is knowing exactly

where they are at the time yeah Drake

for

me you can you can well at some point

you can so now let me start with

me I know everybody won't get to hear

this whole thing because we live in a

microwave Society where people don't

want really want to hear all that [ __ ]

so let me get to my end point because

I'm going to rant and I'm going to say a

lot my end point here is I love Drake if

you don't know if this is your first

time hearing me speak about Drake let me

inform you I am one of the biggest Drake

fans that there is he knows this about

me as well I go way back I'm well

documented I don't need to get into all

of that so let's start what's Drake's

classic

album I don't think he has one but his

best one would be take care in my

opinion okay so this is how I got

there I think and I have always thought

that Drake is

special yes the other people that I

think are

special all of them have a classic

right that got me to thinking I even

asked you and your friend now keep up

with me cuz my memory is bad but my

brain goes and overdrive and sometimes I

can't remember what I was saying I even

told you in your uh you and Cam I think

that was right outside the hotel yeah I

said I said hey why isn't take care of

classic and you both had very

respectable answers uh it wasn't

Timeless uh it wasn't seamless it was

almost it was very very very close very

close hey I agree that album is take

care done bad I'm talking about his

part it's take care B

it's not taken

care that album is not taken care and as

a drake fan somebody who thinks that his

responsibility to music is

greater I think that what I heard was a

man that was so far gone from himself

I'm not looking at now I'm looking at

where this is going and where it's

headed and to see where it's going we

have to look behind us and when I look

behind me I'm scared to death at where

it's headed because where it's headed

they're going to finish the job that

started they're going to finish that job

and it's not going to be enough income

for all the [ __ ] running around

getting bread I'm glad y'all think that

don't apply to y'all that move around in

this industry but it does you don't see

very many rappers rappers getting what

they got to do walkthroughs and [ __ ]

know why cuz much like Napster when all

of these escorts and hoes came and

started taking $200 we a really need the

rappers no more and that's a really bad

really bad example but the same point

it's the same impact I was the first

person on this podcast to say that

streaming this looks very scary what's

about to

happen so I can't laugh with you I I I

feel that way everything that you're

talking about Drake right now did you

say about Jay at volume three I I'm

playing devil's advocate here I'm just

put pointing out a point here and for

everyone on Twitter don't kill me I'm

not comparing Jay and Drake I'm saying

in their runs as artists did you put

this same amount of pressure on Jay-Z on

volume 3 no this is where they are as

far as albums go no I'm saying the

cohesive amount no they're there no no

that's not true well one two three four

albums volume three views well if you

let me get to my point I wasn't I wasn't

this

age I wasn't this age I was not this

age now this age is when I'm starting to

see things a bit differently M so I

wasn't concerned at that age I'm much

like you was just concerned with the

music and as I got older my beef with

HOV was damn he's the only one that they

probably like enough to let get no no

I'm not talking no no he's the only one

they probably like enough to let get a

seat at the table and that'll be real

big as like a black rapper the best a SE

of course of course that would be huge

and he got and then he and then he got

there and I you know be careful what you

wish for I that's when our [ __ ] began

but he got that seat and he's continue

to hustle ever since I mean and I would

say Drake is probably in that seat

because Jay had gotten that seat and so

on and so forth but I'm just saying

albums wise you count them in their

discography we're at volume three and I

don't think [ __ ] Jay got this this

heat we're not going to we not going to

I get it we not let's get off of this

yeah but I'm

oh [ __ ] wait we got hold up cuz I want

to be clear they was [ __ ] talking

about my voice be clear New York oh god

oh was that good it is real good that

was good right no no I'm not talking

about the juice I my I think that

Drake's ceiling is even greater than he

sees it that's my end point I think that

Drake as a kid from Toronto who at one

time was looked at as a real whack ass

[ __ ] I think he Prides himself in

making Toronto as big as can be I think

you have succeeded in that mission Drake

I think your business is exactly where

your brand warrants it be your team of

people is amazing I think you are the

only one

suffering this is only my take I don't

want anybody to listen to my opinion and

change your opinion I hate when people

do that I'm not doing this for out of

sensationalism or because I I have a

project coming no I do this this is why

I'm doing this my son being in my life

has changed my perspective a

bit I think the adults probably need to

be the adults now so sometimes we need

to listen to our criticisms I need to

listen to mine all that [ __ ] around

[ __ ] I was doing on Twitter now I need

to separate myself cuz the kids need the

adults now the kids now my kid right who

I've been out of his life for 10 years

music is our connection him and I I'm

seeing the influence that music has on

my child not only on my child but all of

his friends my kid is 14 freshman in

high school all of his friends I think

music has an influence on children that

a lot of times even the parents don't

know if they don't tell us right and a

lot of times they don't I didn't tell my

mom when I started doing a whole lot of

[ __ ] I know I'm getting off topic I'm

talking about for

me for me Drake is fighting a bigger

fight than Toronto he's no longer just

he no longer only belongs to Toronto he

he's fighting for a lot more of us than

just Toronto if you ask me my opinion I

think Drake can be the fastest to a

billionaire ever yeah he just made um he

finally just made Forbes uh wealthiest

in hipop this this year he knocked out

50 Cent [ __ ]

Forbes and speaking of 50 Cent and I'll

get into this this later vital mistake

Drake Made ignoring 50 Cent this is what

I mean to know what's coming you got to

look before you 50 built his Empire off

of people thinking he is

stupid right can we agree explain that

cuz I don't you don't think all

right when 50 was when 50 put out how to

rob all right we're going that far okay

okay okay now I see I'm sorry I thought

you were saying when 50 was really

introduced to the world not to us he was

perceived as stupid the executives

thought this was some stupid dumb [ __ ]

from Queens just some th he was black

Bal they didn't want to get killed over

the [ __ ] so they man did 50 out think

them all he made it he made his Empire

off of people that's in the 48 Laws of

Power this ain't me talking that I mean

if you don't believe me so that's what

he did right

now d uh

Drake I think that me

Drake

thing is important here to look

at what's the jline on light it

up Drake here's how they G to Comm at

you with silly rap feuds trying to

distract

you put me on record here no offense I

don't want to disrespect anybody Meek is

an

idiot Meek is not the brightest bull

that's just what it is that's my opinion

he's not I dropped out in the 10th grade

listening to him speak he's just not of

a higher level of thought right he is a

pawn I believe this is only my belief

that he was sent I absolutely believe

that he was sent to distract that man

Drake right that this is my belief I

think it was addressed on the 30 for30

freestyle me you and I were the only two

people at first that said 30 for30

freestyle is not about Meek that is

about

Jay-Z yes Rory see that's why I'm so

invested here because I have been

obsessively watching Drake before his

career

started I have to Drake Cole

Kendrick those three move the needle mhm

those those three

transcend music those are the three

people that my grandparents my parents

and my child would ask me about together

that's a unique set there's some other

people that are making their way to that

group but those are the three so I have

to watch those three obsessively and

they all stand for a cause a very

important cause we need these three

Kendrick's cause we can see it m mhm we

don't have to question it and we don't

have to question what his agenda is of

course at

all this is a case of be careful what

you wish for cuz I was the first person

to say that I didn't really enjoy

Kendrick's last album but it was a

masterpiece and he took a risk with that

it was a masterpiece I said that when it

came out mhm so here we get Drake's

album which I

enjoy I like it I don't want that to get

lost in what I'm saying I I really

really like Drake's

album

but nope not enough I have too much

invested in him Drake Cole Kendrick some

of us Elder

Statesmen in rap rely on

y'all we are depending on y'all the

fight that we started last decade is the

Baton is in your hand so let me talk to

the people about who I am am I still

being concise in my points yes

absolutely let me tell the people who I

am and who a lot of musicians are at in

the height of my career My Success when

Kevin LA and Leo Coen were trying to

make me be someone I did not want to be

when I couldn't walk nowhere without a

million people following

me I hated

it that's who I am I think today we need

to change The Narrative of who I am to

y'all because some of the people that

know me know where my spirit Lie Drake

know himself he I think he has a good

idea of who I am at my core not a bitter

bit of blood run through my veins

everybody's not built to deal with

stardom that way I am not self-awareness

is important that was uncomfortable for

me

Marshall I've spoken with him cuz all

the [ __ ] I'm getting I'm getting from

other Geniuses too this ain't just me

talking I'm just a vessel Marshall in

confidence told me he'd love to go pump

gas one day guess what I [ __ ] believe

him I believe him I think [ __ ] that

have been afforded the universe crave

for those small moments that seem like

nothing to the average

person can we play this light it up

verse Rory please because I believe to

see what's about to happen we need to

see what came before and no disrespect

to Meek but Drake where you sit is very

important understand your opponent this

time is not

Meek oh back to that 50 c point before

you play this my point with that was

didn't Drake show the world exactly how

meticulous he was during that beef

absolutely 1,00 a lot of people that

didn't know see some of us knew some of

us that watch knew a lot of people that

didn't know found out how slick that boy

can be right

when he is when he asserts himself

right I think that that was Vital

Information to whoever it is that is

against him in his

mission I think whoever it is against

him I won't name names I think whoever

that person is I think they would like

to know how meticulous Drake can be cuz

I think whoever that person is is an

adult and they are far more meticulous

than your brain is

now not later your fight is greater than

that I think Drake can be

iTunes that's what I

think I think Drake I've seen Drake

create a genre of music Drake the

weekend party division uh Madrid Jordan

he could have really bust his ass if he

wanted to go get Bryson tiller Drake has

the

influence to be iTunes if I'm thinking

bigger which my therapist told me to do

so I apply it to everything now I think

Drake did we play this clip no we didn't

play yet oh of uh Joe Buton TV or light

up the Joe Buton TV no we didn't play we

didn't play nothing well let's play that

play that let's play that I get every

last Joe Button TV and look who it

is yes Drizzy to be here Drizzy Mr so

far going it's come you You' taking over

New York City yeah and just you didn't

just catch me out here I came to support

jokes just been a rack of anybody

watching and I appreciate it yeah I came

to support thank you very much now you

asked me how Dar was feeling yeah I did

I need to ask you how you feeling I feel

uh I feel humble man definely listen

don't don't listen listen listen don't

political you what year is

this 2009 it says on

YouTube April 2009 which means really

2008 fres fresh into 2009

right so far gone was picking up a lot

of right there that's what I want right

there that right there that part is very

key y'all please listen to me hey pause

it pause it Rory pause it please hey

again I'm only giving you my thoughts on

my podcast I'm only speaking to the

people who understand and are watching

at a certain algorithm I'm speaking to

the people who are able to look deeper

everybody brain ain't that [ __ ]

developed play this [ __ ] right

here all of the flatter yeah you know I

mean it's great it's great I never uh I

definitely never thought you know that

it would it would go this far stop it

right [ __ ] there that's my

point Drake is still hey I go back to

when every Drake video was bad I go back

to when Drake dressed like a piece of

[ __ ] I go back to when the flow was

still a little choppy and he still

really didn't know where to insert those

Melodies but you could tell it was

coming

mhm I'm one of those Drake fans I'm

qualified to speak here in this

Arena Drake now I remember I come from

when he was on all the memes the bad

way that [ __ ] so ill this is only my

opinion I think every time he's on a

meme it's him doing it on

purpose I think that's planned I think

all the hotline video I think the last

album cover heading the clowns I think

this album cover I think all of that

[ __ ] is planned by him and his team his

team is

aazing well I don't know if you know

those memes and the sad clown and troll

[ __ ] that people did on Twitter was

before take care and then take care came

and he went full-fledged sad

he just bought into it right away yeah

he so crazy that's how calculated that

was a very calulated move in that sense

he know what he's do he even said that

about he literally said about hotline

bling he knew it was going to be made

into memes and Gifts he knew that he

want the dancing [ __ ] was 1,00% to go he

wanted that he did that on purpose that

part is apparent but I'm saying it goes

back to before take care before he was

of course he was very emotional on so

far gone and uh thank me later but he

bought into that 1,00 % and put out take

care which was the saddest [ __ ]

project ever and we all ate that [ __ ] up

play from there oh wait because my point

with this right here I want to stay on

my points because I have a lot of them

my point with this is I believe him when

he says that he he he could never have

never

imagined this is after so far

gone you don't think that this kid feels

like he's at the top of the world right

now H [ __ ] no no no to much is

dependent on you for me anyway I love it

too much and after streaming there's

nothing left there's nothing next y'all

I got to talk to Drake Cole and Kendrick

and hold them accountable cuz back when

we had [ __ ] uh at tracks after

a tracks 45 45 records record SE tapes

tapes to CS I never knew what was coming

next we know what's coming next and we

wasn't getting paid before as artists

if nobody want to talk about it let's

keep it a buck it's time to change the

narrative it's time to recondition how

we think it's only but so many artists

that are making a great enough living to

afford themselves the lifestyle in which

they

portray does it take me to say that to

y'all no right certainly not no we got

that I'm not getting my information from

somewhere that y'all can't pull from I'm

just judging him on more than the music

play from play from here I think you can

have more Drake I think you are like the

[ __ ] Golden Child I think you are so

much greater than me so much guess what

though you couldn't be greater without

me there's a whole lot

of MC's from last

decade that laid their Blood Sweat and

Tears for the ground that y'all can walk

today last decade they told me I had to

act a certain way and dress a certain

way and record a certain way I told them

[ __ ] suck my dick [ __ ] your record

label

[ __ ] as an emotional 22y

old who applauded when HOV came in De J

cuz he was breaking barriers we want a

black successful rapper at that Jewish

table that's what I'm saying to Drake

right now there's a whole another table

you think HOV is

stopped somebody answer me you think ho

is at his final

table Hustler Hove huh we know who he is

right hustler ho you think he's chilling

or you think he see something coming no

I think he's planning he's planning

right in the moves he's making right now

abut look at this point look at this

point and this is conspiracy theorist

Joe this is where I get a little weird

look at this point

though back to Drake can be

iTunes Drake got I believe in

energy Drake has a different type of

energy his energy has attracted the

likes of

Beyonce

repeatedly his energy has Rihanna on his

dick for a long time MH right mhm his

energy caused some type of energy

between him and Chris Brown someone who

I think as wild Disturbed is one of the

most talented people in the world he

just has an energy with the other Mega

stars in the world Jay don't have that

[ __ ] energy Jay is a

hustler I'm not giving you my

opinion I'm telling yall knows how to

rap I'm telling yes I'm telling y'all

what the what we know about these people

Jay has hustled his way to his

Empire see how we live it is how we get

it Drake I think play this play this

because he goes further play this you

see your first disc coming uh hopefully

like back to school times like you know

early fall all right no you think I said

dis dis oh dis yeah when when do you I

heard dis me not reply now somebody's

going to send a shot like you man I'm no

no no I'm a nice guy you are a nice guy

I'm nice but you're you're you're just

too witty own I be beefing with losing

[ __ ] I be beefing with loser sensitive

[ __ ] and it's my job as a rapper to

let [ __ ] know that they can't if I get

this it's going to be it's going to be a

female trying to get me I bet some irony

there with the

[Music]

behavior

listen look at him all right so I tried

to get this [ __ ] to to say who he's

going to dis somebody is going to I'm

not going to dis this me you never hear

we heard the line that was just lying

somebody going to say some [ __ ] yeah and

you going to feel some type of way and

the MC man everybody that you know they

trying they keep you know I'll say one

thing they keep trying to create a

problem

to me and cut I love that guy man I

listen to his music I think he's great I

think he's talented I won't have a

problem you know this see this new

generation stop that we don't care about

what he's saying from there we don't

care about what he's saying from there I

just want to show his

mindset it's women if somebody dis me

it's going to be women and N my [ __ ]

I'm so good somebody dis me I'm cool no

that was then people develop see because

some people going to say to me Joe

people are supposed to change no we

supposed to evolve and improve on

ourselves we're not supposed to lose who

we are right play light it up please cuz

all of this is

foresight me talking to Drake having

that conversation ain't nothing but

foresight triple don't even ask me how

connected to a high power stop stop stop

stop stop no no no no you won't fool me

that way because hve is too much of a

genius so let me see this

[Music]

computer oh that was smart Joe Buton

yeah that was tell [ __ ] what you do

with you yeah I [ __ ] up where it was

it's got the [ __ ] lyrics on the

screen all right come on I try to take

this oh here we go

Ryan I'm sorry Ryan I'm

[Music]

sorry connect to a stop it stop it stop

it um and this ain't no Illuminati [ __ ]

but like I believe in energy too and as

of late I've been into numerology I

looked up H I looked up [ __ ]

Drake too right but I believe that HOV

is in the energy as well I'm just

drawing pain in the wall keep playing

it he

has he's talking to

you that's you

too he's still talking to

you and he's still turn it

off now of course of course I'm [ __ ]

around I don't know what he was talking

about all of that but I though I like

where you're going with this lighter

Mo no but I do believe in energy and I

do believe that HOV has seen it all and

done it all I do believe that mm so this

song to me someone who's looking deeper

is a clear indication that right here ho

uh Drake's mind is on the women Po's

mind is on the bigger picture my point

is Hov is not Meek he's very meticulous

let's get the views he sounds so

uninspired on views let me tell you

here's my other conspiracy theory about

views track one you can't fool me baby

no no no no no no no no no I Drake I

think you're too much of a genius for me

to think that you talking about a

bitch's perspective on track number one

I don't believe it I think the track

number one is a stream of Consciousness

I think the track number one is your way

of sending shots to the public like a

bat cry for helping the a [ __ ] you

talking about yourself I don't think you

have a confidant that you can [ __ ]

confide in to talk about these feelings

and just when I thought I was wrong you

said that to me as you closed that album

out thoughts too deep to share with a

therapist [ __ ] I could have this

conversation as if you was in front of

me and you've been in front of

me so you know that this is love me and

you play truth to truth I left that

truth truth and truth is a game I play

to gauge people's

brains you're real good at it I left

that truth and truth game saying that

boy is different it confirmed me

thinking you was The Golden Child but it

told you I was different at two your

brain is different so I think it was a

stream of Consciousness on track number

one right track number two might be the

worst followup to track number one I've

ever heard on any Drake project and I

love that

song okay that song is indicative of my

point Drake who has been on my list of a

[ __ ] who has not had an undeniably

whack verse in years I didn't even give

him one until my way with

fetty that was my first time giving him

a wack verse you it's not by coincidence

that there's a string of Records now

with horrible lyrics I turned the six

upside down it's a nine

now you're your face so no no no no no

no no no I'm not I'm not defending I'm

not defending that that Bo at all um I'd

rather just go the overall picture here

of this album and not go track by track

and break bar by bar we're we're not so

let me close so let me close with the

beginning and end cuz this will get us

on a tangent that's my I that's my

thought on track number one track the

last track

views it ends the way every Drake album

normally ends as far as the bragado

doest triumphant background music it

ends all of his projects end that

way this time it was

different I couldn't feel it I didn't

believe it what I was getting from the

words was different now on so far gone

which is his

Classic on so far G he didn't have none

of that [ __ ] he was talking about but

godamn it I believed him now he has

everything in the universe I didn't

believe his voice his tone in the words

he was saying and I thought that his

meticulous ass was closing that album

trying to tell us something different so

I want to Define introspection right now

mhm but because he is the air quotes

king of

introspection and I Define words even

when I know what they mean just because

the context of the English language is

lost today anytime you ask somebody what

a word mean first thing out their mouth

is well to me it mean no [ __ ] I want to

know what it mean

introspec

sh observation or examination of One's

Own mental and emotional state

mental processes the act of looking

within oneself now since take care to

now can anybody tell me that Drake has

done that no but we could tell you where

Courtney

works

who I give Drake more credit than that

is what I am saying and if there's one

place I'm qualified to speak

it's on

introspection so now I'm on my podcast

right now give me two seconds I'll call

you right back baby all right it's on

introspection that I can speak about and

when I met Drake you know what I'm gonna

I'm going to wrap here but can I tell a

story can I just tell a Drake a drake

story I just want to give backstory

always good to

hear I called Drake I want to give

backstory to that YouTube clip I called

Drake

um when he was leading up to so far gone

being released before he put it out and

I said to him you are the

one you are the

one stay this way stay it's you like I

had that talk with him and then I said I

would love to work with you he said I'm

in Toronto now but I'll fly up and we'll

get something done I said cool wait

self-awareness is important I want to

tell the people out there just so y'all

know who I am I asked Drake Kendrick and

Cole for verses early before anybody

knew who they was they couldn't ever do

it cuz they Superstar them got too big

nobody's happier about that than me

nobody I'm not one of them I'm not one

of them hating [ __ ] I'm from a

different time so anyway Drake never

came to do that verse but he did come up

one day for that party that we was at

when we filmed that he came up for that

and I said yo we going to get that verse

done he said no I have to go and do the

H called me to the studio to do what's

the uh joint this was the waack song off

that yes off that [ __ ] yeah that wasn't

you didn't let him get a verse cuz he

might wash yeah when I heard that song I

was disappointed I was sad because I was

like damn [ __ ] I had then he were mad

Tims afterwards even Rory mty I had so

much fire planned for Drake and I that

day cuz we was so much more alike than

we were different as far as I'm not

talking about a success level see people

going to speak where I have failed but

that's fine I want yesterday I want

tomorrow to be better than yesterday

nobody's happier than me that the

Warriors have broken the Bull's record

know why cuz none of us thought we could

ever see it it was

impossible that's all I'm saying I need

Drake to fight The Impossible fight the

one I failed at cuz I was too emotional

the one a lot of us failed at cuz we

wasn't talented enough the ones a lot of

us failed at because the people wouldn't

listen we had the same point

but the game and the time was different

now is the time and the climate is now

for that fight to be fought okay with

that said did he not do that on views is

that what you're getting

at views tells me something is

wrong okay so you're saying he's not

hungry anymore no no oh so that was my

story in Sin City one night when I was

in Sin City Drake calls me while I'm in

Sin City well we

now what was this 5 a.m. 5:00 p.m. in

New York this is something not 5:00 p.m.

in New York what was before that what

was after Dallas that one that was the

one what year did that come out 201 2011

he called me I was in Sin City had to be

2011 cuz I've been stopped going to C

City yeah he called me and he asked me

some [ __ ] that'll remain between him and

I and when he finished I said

Drake that [ __ ] that you just did was

amazing how

for me I I was trying to get inside

information if you want me to be honest

if I'm being totally transparent I was

trying to

see how someone who had it all still was

that inspired to rap like that to MC's

I'm telling y'all out there that just

judge music the MC's for a long for a

long period of time was looking at Drake

like an

immortal that's how he looked I still

think he's

that maybe I'm wrong and holding on to

false [ __ ] I still think that boy is the

one that will change the way

music is received in 50

years I'm open to being wrong I am I am

I know I sound a little nuts to some

people but what what was I saying right

before that cuz I want to finish that

point and then we can end it oh my story

so he said

yo if you want to be honest I'm still

hungry and he might as well have stabbed

me in the heart as a MC because I

couldn't understand it I lost my way in

this game I wanted to leave as soon as I

found out what it was I'm too much of an

introvert so for him to say that it was

like God telling me there was a stronger

version in front a [ __ ] that I a [ __ ]

was going to get it done that Drake is

no longer is what I'm saying okay well I

totally get exactly what you're saying

in the sense that he is not hungry as an

MC which may have been apparent on views

I don't I think it's because he's had it

all too I don't think it's because he's

done it all I think he's uninspired I I

think it's different I think he felt

like it was he's just gotten to a point

where he's too polish to take a risk is

is his hunger is his hunger in a new

area now that's where I'm looking at is

what I'm my point here is he's developed

a lot everything that has come up to

this point has shown me that views did

not surprise me at all everything that

was on that album I thought was going to

be on that album because if you've

looked since his last [ __ ] take care

was the last time we thought he was

really rapping you think would you agre

for me that's I know for you what I'm

saying yeah and Rory everything has told

me that he's going in this direction and

as calculated as you just say that he is

and how hungry he was at that point

who's to say that this is now his

direction or his view no pun I think

he's be there let me reply to that let

me reply to

that I'm one of the people that ran to

download everything Drake ever put out

ever without hearing it I didn't need to

know I'm the person that ran the

slaughter house in

20078 I think 8 8 2008 and said yo

listen to this kid they thought I was

nuts

right I like Risk Drake and I don't I

think he's at a place where it's no

longer a risk that's what I'm saying

when he put

out uh hold on we're going home loved it

any record he's done like that loved it

I don't care whether he wrote it or not

the the R&B music I love all of that I

love the dance hall [ __ ] on this album

so not to interrupt you but but right

there just hold on we're going home I

think we've talked about on the podcast

I think his quote was I want to make a

wedding song I want to make something

that transcends my regular what a genius

right yeah okay so he's he's seeing that

he wants to go in that

direction he does the Trap [ __ ] cuz

that's popular within the Urban Market

let me keep my fans here because I'm

clearly trying to go in a different

direction with my pop music but I'm

trying to gather everyone I saw views as

the My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy

let me appease every fan that I've

gathered on the way here that's how I

saw this album which is why I wasn't

shocked and while I do understand your

energy now is within passion mine is in

his understanding I have logic and

understanding as well behind mine and I

don't I don't think he's making this

album for you for the rap fan I think

he's making this for some Global [ __ ] if

look at it wait why why are you boxing

me as a rap fan don't do that no I'm

saying You're Expecting from him I get I

get what you're saying I know you like

more than that that's not responding to

me I don't think he's making it for the

the day1 rap fans he's making this for

some Global [ __ ] to like he's look at

the single now he's got his highest he y

I have to interrupt y'all wait or

you I'm okay I'm not ever saying it I'm

not that's not I'm not addressing what

you're saying I agree I think Drake is

trying to be the best artist in the

world I agree so why is that how is that

uh

counter counter to what I'm

saying no but we're not saying that

you're wrong we're just saying the point

of view we're looking at the

understanding and his mind frame in

doing these moves cuz you're saying that

he has lost hunger he's not inspired I'm

just saying his inspiration may be in

another place now that's all where where

is that other place tell me bigger yeah

pop music stop repeat what you just said

two more times repeat exactly what you

just said bigger into pop

music that sound like more re to be more

motivated and inspired than ever I'm

talking as Artist as far as he did

hotline bling work was [ __ ] the

number one record which which by the way

that's not his record that's but no

that's his record that came from his

Camp that's his record I know Rihanna

made it Rihanna but I'm saying hotline

bling and and one dance are his two

highest charted singles of his he's

doing now says my Hunger is in pop music

and everything this is what is a little

frustrating

Drake is going to sell more records than

ever okay well I'm not talking about his

success and I'm not talking about how

amazing I love those records we know no

we're not say you at all we're agreeing

we're saying where

the he could be hungry just not for the

change in lyricism and the and the the

more being more introspective and

showing growth in that way okay Rory and

Marissa what I'm talking about is who I

think and who no Drake to be at his core

I think that's I'm talking about who he

is he's such he's not a one trick pony

so he makes all these amazing records

but him him inside I keep saying I miss

the Drake that uh pushes the agenda not

let the agenda push him he who he is

inside is what created all of this now

what is has created all of this is now

is and is eating at him and I'm talking

about artists see sometimes we ignore

artist artist cuz they artists but we

keep seeing them die there's a reason

for it there's a reason that artists are

popping pills there's a reason for all

of that stuff artists be going through

[ __ ] you think Drake don't

feel let's not be stupid he hasn't told

us anything about any of that that's

Point number one point number two to to

your point Rory this is what makes me

look at him a little funny every chance

he get he diss [ __ ] who don't sell no

records

yet he seemed to me like he feels like

he needs future for

something I think that's to hold on to

the fan base that he doesn't want to Al

Urban the pop trap music while he does

the pop [ __ ] cuz if he doesn't do if he

doesn't do the uh future [ __ ] and knows

he's going in the hotline bling one

dance Lane he's losing a lot of [ __ ]

people and he's at such a point now that

he can't please everybody he's Gathering

every aspect of our genre great then

stop dissing The [ __ ] you holding on

to it's rap he's just talking [ __ ] [ __ ]

yeah yeah but to us deeper Minds I want

to believe you and when you dissing The

[ __ ] that you grabbing on to for dear

life it makes it hard for me to believe

that's number one number two that proved

my point too cuz my only Point here is I

think Drake is greater than even Drake

knows for

himself I don't ever feel like and I and

future is

amazing Drake is different than us he's

different different he is I I I make it

akin to power to the people that think

I'm hating to me it's equivalent to

power when ghost who's the man got a

little too arrogant and lost himself and

then that white [ __ ] took his Club from

him and then told him like I'm telling

Drake the [ __ ] I know would have never

lost that club the [ __ ] I

know can make this album that he put out

without a mouth

rappers know

that you can't fool a real [ __ ] is what

I'm saying it's time we recondition the

masses that's not okay we need the

[ __ ] that are great to be great

because the kids today are going to have

kids

tomorrow that's what I'm saying y'all

can I raise a point not an opinion and I

think I'm done with my points um would

you would say everyone would agree that

Drake is a relatable artist and has been

relatable his entire career and that is

what's drawn people to

him no you don't think Drake is

relatable I don't as a regular human

being that walks that feels [ __ ] and

yeah do with the girl don't overthink

this I have an answer you let me answer

did oh my answer was no yeah I think

half of his career has been that way

that's what say I don't feel like

there's a certain point I feel like it

stopped

so hey hey why we don't hear Drake and

Cole no

more we they don't need each

other they don't they don't need each

other they're in two separate Lanes

doing just fine did they need each other

when they that point but remind me to

come back to my point oh then do it now

so with Drake has been very relatable

and I think that's why people have

grasped towards him right off rip

because he's very vulnerable and shows

himself and people relate to

that now he is not a relatable person

and I think Drake has given us his life

to a certain extent on

record wait why is he not a relatable

person now now it's it could be very a

lot more difficult to be relatable so on

views going into the studio this is all

I have no idea it's just speculation

making a point going into views knowing

his whole career has been based on

people connecting to exactly what he has

to say he doesn't have anything to say

to the average person walking in that

studio and that and that and that and

that and that right there young people

is the point that I want to drive home

because the hip-hop that I fell in love

with was old hip hop of course but it

was hip-hop with a message rappers and

MC's and I can speak on MC's cuz I'm an

MC so I'm not speaking to Drake the

artist because I'll never be that artist

he's too amazing none of us a lot of us

won't be but the

MC's reported from around the world

Drake the MC we fell in love with he

told us us about where he was from his

point of view he told us about let me

tell you something this why can't this

be a point everything that you love

about him and who he is and the passion

he has in his music what you're saying

you you felt lacked in views because you

didn't feel it no that is a reflection

of where he's at right now and Rory my

counter to that is I disagree I think he

is fighting a huge fight behind the

scenes but he has to Tippy Toe he can't

he can't tell us that's similar to what

and I were saying he can't tell us I'm

saying when he digs deeper and finds

another way to get over that hump that

many of us failed at cuz we weren't

equipped and and when he does that he'll

be able to mass produce himself this way

and it never lack feeling or Merit I

think Drake has a lot to talk about I

think that that very meticulous man

keeps hinting at something he just won't

tell us cuz he keeps talking about hoes

and while I get it while I get it that

may be who that part of who he is too

loving to [ __ ] all the big booty [ __ ]

and really having you know that may be

who he is too but once he gets past it I

got caught up too I'm not exemp we

humans my [ __ ] I lost myself that was

about to be my point I lost myself yeah

he's The Golden Child but he's also the

biggest rapper in the world right now

that has everyone saying if you don't

drop a classic you're whack which is why

all the pressure which is why why the

adults need to be the adults I can't sit

home and look at my kid look at hip hop

and tell me about all the [ __ ] [ __ ] his

friends is doing right and feel like I'm

out the game because I'm not playing the

game but that's not true cuz I'm

reaching [ __ ] that's playing the game

uhuh no no no I

can't I believe in energy these are my

beliefs so while the world can say Joe

Button has no right to speak on Dr cuz

he's never done it no I've never done it

because I wouldn't do it I need a more

we need a more equipped version and

since that man has told me out his mouth

how much I have inspired and influenced

him at some point in life cuz he's one

of them Geniuses where I'm sure many

people have inspired him M this is how

energy works to

me and inspired me cuz Tupac said Tupac

said who I love we I don't have to

change the world I just got to inspire

the mind that does so inspired me

inspires Drake inspired Drake un

inspires me and uninspired Drake in turn

inspires and uninspired me which will

inspire him that's how I feel me only me

I need Drake to be the greatest I need

Drake to be greater than he even knows

he can because his plight is for our

lineage we won't be here music will

that's why I'm this invested I'm sorry

I'm sorry I'm sorry it's too big it's

too big it's too important to me for me

to allow y'all not this time for me to

allow y'all to diss the messenger and

ignore the message I'm way too invested

in music I've said too much that if you

take music off this planet you have to

take me with it I if I believe what I

believe I have to be this way Rory yeah

and and I hear that and back to the

point of your thinking in P your energy

is in the passion of what's going on

mine is in the understanding right so

what do so so what do don't you

understand no no no no the understanding

of why I understand exactly what you're

saying I'm saying why Drake put out

views and why it sounds the way it

sounds you think was cohesive

views I think 40 was the star um it

could have been more cohesive but I

think the production was phenomenal but

I think with to to run back to the point

of grabbing all these

audiences in doing that with these pop

records and not the introspective Drake

that we love he has to grab them to do

this bigger mission that you're speaking

about cuz he has to get the masses here

my point Here Beyonce could not make

lemonade without four she needed to get

everyone on board with her to put

without this story yes lemonade would

have fell [ __ ] flat if she was just

some R&B singer see wow out so Drake

needs this Mission he could be on the

same thing see Ro this could be way more

calcul wait before y'all before y'all

say that um I I'm not going to pull it

up of course but on this very podcast

cuz we've been documenting this for a

long time for a year oh we all sat here

and agreed that Drake was already at

that position and this was the album

right we said it here we all said it I'm

not saying this in lie of him having an

album that maybe I didn't think was his

greatest work I've been obsessively

watching this for a year on this podcast

do you hear me y'all have been with me

we've said this is the

one right but he has a ceiling that I'm

not saying that oh well hey this wasn't

the one so [ __ ] Dr never will I ever

ever ever ever be that foolish that man

knows where I stand with him but I know

we've said that a thousand times but now

in retrospect I don't know if that's

very fair right and I think I know we

keep using H as an example just because

he's this generation's closest thing to

Hope and we got to stop that not his

music but how people love him yes this

is Bo push the agenda don't overthink

that I'm just saying but just like you

said Drake doesn't even know his ceiling

like he could be bigger than what he

already is he's already you know you

said this could have been the album but

there could be another album Past that

that could do even even more than that

of course not if he stays like this if

he don't think bigger than this that

album will never come this is global

that's what I'm saying it's not

necessarily the rapping Drake that we

knew or the or the theing the agenda

Drake I Get you're telling me about his

popularity and I'm talking about where

his popularity should

be again passion ours is in

understanding exactly no no mine is just

coming from having been in this fight

I'm looking through a different lens I

need the fans the same way 50 went to

the radio a while back and just Brunk

sound scan up there every [ __ ] week

and recondition how fans think no

somebody got to change that we have to

stop judging just the music the [ __ ]

that we love are killing

themselves Chris Brown looks nuts I love

Chris Brown he does look nuts and I love

his music and I think he's one of the

most talented in the world i' be damn I

just lost Prince I'd be damned if

something happened to Drake because he

feel like he don't have no one to talk

to just go listen to the interviews

don't don't I'm not telling nobody agree

with me nobody believe me nobody ride

with me I'm just telling how Joe Button

feels on Joe Button podcast listen to

the end of views for a [ __ ] with the

world it just don't sound believable

there's a feeling missing throughout the

entire

album I won't stand for it he's greater

than that [ __ ] that nope I'm done that's

what well it's funny this that reminded

me of a bar on Club Paradise damn my

biggest fear is losing at all remember

how I used to feel at the start of it

and now I'm living a [ __ ] fairy

tale and still trying to keep you a part

of it back to what I was saying where

people connected with Drake so much and

he is now not that person he can't tell

me about an average relationship anymore

so hence

views lost feeling because he may not

have the same feelings that I have as a

[ __ ] average 26-year old person Rory

I agree with you I think views I think

views for him is all love loss for me oh

Al beit on the biggest scale in the

world and mine's on the lowest I think

views is an uninspired Drake giving us

giving the people what he think will

work yeah on all of loss because I'm

older I was uninspired and telling

people I am

dying I'm speaking about art and artists

they all are weird for a reason I'm not

judging just music yes I am a over

analytical Virgo with OCD I know y'all

think I just [ __ ] [ __ ] and tweet

ignorant [ __ ] well you do that too but

that's no longer no longer no longer no

longer you trying to change the

narrative I'm

not cuz I love I love you too dog but I

hold Drake to Too Much I that I will end

with that I don't want to hold this

hostage I hold him to Too Much totally

understand what you're saying and I'm

open to being wrong but I live with the

result of being wrong if all I'm telling

my brother to do is be great be greater

then I live with being wrong I mean if

y'all going to call me a hater for

wanting somebody to be great so be it

but a lot rides on Kendrick Cole Drake

Joe Buton I this podcast later y'all

want to close with something uh we

should do sleeper songs I don't think we

have a oxc COR but we should keep the

tradition going who am I to [ __ ]

tradition up yeah I mean um but yeah in

closing I I totally I think we're

on understand what you're saying there

was certainly a feeling that was not

there in the Drake album we can all

agree with that however I totally

understand it and while you may have a

point with this uninspired thing my only

other point that I cannot prove because

I do not know Drake or anyone in his

Camp his focus and inspiration could be

going in this direction purposely this

may be what he wants to do yes that's I

am with there okay I'm still going to

watch obsessively and document for the

people who are looking the way that I'm

looking uh for the internet out there

that is going to listen to this can you

pull up a bunch of Drake pictures and

just Photoshop Joe creepily watching in

the background so I can enjoy that and

then tag us shut the [ __ ] up I don't

give a [ __ ] about what you got to

say I'm trying to keep lightskinn [ __ ]

on top Parks we don't have a oxt or

anything do

we whose phone is that my other phone

why do you have two phones cuz I got two

phones one for the plug and one for

those no I don't no oh god um I'm not

rolling hey M all right well I'm going

to

play I'm going to play a sleeper song

through my phone to the mic when is

Mother's Day but it'll get the points

it's on Sunday Su dick oh [ __ ] tell your

mother I said Happy Mother's Day too

tell her I said hi Miss F hi Miss f m

Rory said hi Ma I'll call you in 10

minutes

bye oh oh my new B Dam me back hello oh

my god um all right so I'm just going to

play it towards the mic hopefully it

works yeah that's fine I like it better

like that anyway

yeah this is my sleeper song of the week

I think it's appropriate talk about this

all the time closer to my dreams what

it's going to be like when you get

closer to your

dreams I didn't know much then but

probably tell you a little something

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now you at the house and get B quickly

he stay grown so the P had to get P

quickly exir stripping I can't stop new

girl tripping but I can't drop cuz I

need something to balance out the fact

that it's hard to find a woman when you

talented in HS and you back you thly

discuss violence your

TR funniest part about the uh come

season cover it's it's where Drake looks

by far the oldest right it's the

youngest why he look like a [ __ ]

40-year-old single uh guy with a

daughter that be creeping in the park

that all right Drake closer to my

dreams I'm GNA try to do this better

than I tried before um my sleeper song

of the week is a sleeper mixtape of the

week which was Mike [ __ ] Mike poers

2011 mixtape called The Layover um I had

a bunch of tracks on it I'm going to

just probably play one but he had a lot

of features Big crits on it slim thugs

on it B major Casey Veggies Machine Gun

Kelly sah High the prince lot of good

stuff on it um a lot of good he did a

cover of wonder wall which is really

dope um but I think one of my favorites

was this song called attit attit

attitudes I can't even pronounce it with

Casey Veggies and this is

it but to be clear my whole my pick is

the whole

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mixtape my poser is way more talented

than people give him credit hell yeah

and I'm so happy he has a

hit and we look alike make us hot again

Mike he's hot top five song in the

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country and real boyfriend yeah this

doesn't sound good when y'all keep

talking over it I just don't want to get

pulled

over this is a

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mixtape and there you have it that's

brand new Mike pner or old Mike Posner

my old W jbmc

101.9 right here for commercial free

Rush music all right come on man damn

trying to [ __ ] pner me to death me

God damn it all right mine cuz I'm a

real ass [ __ ] no I'm GNA go with where'

we

go oh man I'm so stupid all right I'm

gonna go by the gentlemen I've G I've

picked one of his before Ro James I like

what this brother's doing out there I

[ __ ] with him I [ __ ] with him and his

music and his album comes out soon soon

as in like two weeks soon uh you can go

to iTunes Now if you pre-order it

there's a song on there called burn slow

this was my first time hearing Ro James

uh sing at a faster Tempo and it gave me

a little Frank Ocean in the beginning

but after that oh yeah

call

hey there you have it WJ BMC 101.9

that's brand new for my man Ro James off

that project coming into goodbye shut

the [ __ ]

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