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Episode 65

65 w Angie Martinez

Joe Budden Podcast Episode 65, “65 w Angie Martinez,” released May 27, 2016. Joe Budden and his dear friends Marisa Mendez & Rory sit down every week to discuss life, music, sex, and more. Tune in and follow along the crazy adventures of these three very random friends. Full transcript and searchable timestamps below.

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    l.com please can we start can I just

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    start this without him yeah please are

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    we rolling we are rolling let's just

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    roll because this [ __ ] guy is podcast

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    star How does it go um we usually say

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    how dides it go you did 80 million pod I

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    only did one I only did one dick yeah I

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    know I know I didn't know you took this

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    seriously otherwise I would have did

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    yours already this podcast game is real

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    out here I had no idea until I made the

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    mistake of doing a podcast and it not it

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    wasn't yours and I got a text from my

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    friend who felt funny and and I thought

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    I you know here's the thing I used to be

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    in Joe's house when he was shooting

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    toiri with his phone her shooting her

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    ass and then putting it on social media

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    more than her ass so I was think my home

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    all right my what we cared about oh

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    there you go so I'm thinking Joe's doing

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    his podcast like from his living room

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    playing Monopoly whenever he feels like

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    it I didn't know this was like a serious

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    operation that you have a place you come

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    to the studio to

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    God everything I love on everything I

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    love I imagined you in the house

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    whenever you felt like it just recording

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    a podcast but that is how it should be

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    so maybe I didn't take you seriously

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    enough so then when you were like yo f

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    you said you were come to do my podcast

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    I thought I'm so sorry hey big you don't

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    [ __ ] first of I Didn't Know I Was hot

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    out here in the podcast circuit I know

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    you cared or I didn't know you mattered

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    everyone cares oh please stop no that's

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    real also I didn't know now I know now

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    I'm I'm sorry

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    no I swear to God I am I am out of the

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    loop on baby baby baby what no what

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    don't you believe about what I'm saying

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    to no not that I don't believe any of it

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    but you certainly you can't come in

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    host while the host is gone plead your

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    case and then move

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    anyway what do no no so so no I'm I'm

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    happy that you're here I hate you

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    already I'm happy that Angie is here hi

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    Joey this is so multi-layered for a

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    plethora reason this is a moment this is

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    a moment for me is it this is a huge

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    moment for me I want a little uh worried

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    because I gave uh Angie's assistant my

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    card and pin and I don't know if she got

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    like a scammer boy friend in Brooklyn so

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    I'm a bit worried I only have good

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    people around me in good hands I trust

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    the Judgment yeah I got good judgment of

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    char character except for my friend over

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    here to the left yeah I'm good that was

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    going to be my next point I I to check I

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    was like right or left I'm right so you

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    don't you I don't you're the only one I

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    don't know here okay Michael Roy I think

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    you've interviewed just let do it again

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    so natural you do radio or something

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    yeah I'm going to back up you tell me

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    what you want me to say you two stop you

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    stop she's no now when Elliot Wilson yes

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    I was eating I thought you don't

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    reference other podcast no I shout [ __ ]

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    I'm mentioning a person okay Elliot

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    Wilson do you not like Elliott or

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    something could you say it with all the

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    podcast people stick together okay good

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    but there's a friendly it's friendly

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    friendenemies yeah it's Frenemies yeah

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    no we all stick together in the podcast

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    world I think we're the only independent

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    we are we are everybody else is they

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    down with a conglomerate let me tell you

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    something I'm into these podcasts I'm

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    into it me too I might want to join the

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    club I was just talking to Bae who who

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    the hell is bae now I still don't

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    [ __ ] know who is this I guarantee you

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    her ass is fat and her her waist and she

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    uses a waist

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    trainer I signed at NDA tell me the

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    truth be honest minimal be honest her

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    waist to ass ratio is completely like

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    and and be honest no tell me the truth

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    oh we're so close yet so distant why you

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    have a new type I have m IFI my

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    lifestyle and okay so her ass is only

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    large not extra large I don't I don't I

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    don't think that Bae has a huge ass at

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    all oh my God I guarantee I bet you Rory

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    begs to differ but your perspective is

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    off no if it's the girl I'm thinking of

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    no she doesn't lies let see a photo a

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    photo her ass on your phone I know you

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    do I don't this this is a lady baby this

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    is not this is not so how long has this

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    been going on little girls so wait how

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    long has this been going on Angie you're

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    not interviewing [ __ ] shut the [ __ ] up

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    this is my [ __ ] all right fine what do

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    you want to know now since you want to

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    be a dick let me see let me see how good

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    let me see how good you are at this go

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    go let me see what questions you have

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    you have prepared questions did you do

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    research go sorry go go carry on oh I'm

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    going to be

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    quiet

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    now many of you do not know that

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    Angie I credit you for helping me to

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    modify my lifestyle this way so we stay

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    on this topic okay I like this topic and

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    gives great advice now you sound

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    motherly and Auntie like you know voice

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    of New York so you're welcoming your

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    voice you're welcoming naturally okay

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    but an gives great [ __ ] advice and I

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    didn't know that what do you mean you

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    didn't know CU you didn't take any no I

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    didn't know that when I found out years

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    ago oh oh when we first years ago I went

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    to an and catastrophic pain that level

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    pain yeah that was I wasn't going to you

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    cuz I needed and's advice I needed

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    someone ASAP and how you behaved in that

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    moment strengthened what I already knew

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    and felt and thought about you and we've

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    been off the races ever since with that

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    said do you tell people that about that

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    no no okay I have never what we do is

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    what we do I hate people right I'm still

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    me on this podcast yeah I got it yeah so

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    yeah no I hate people I don't tell

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    people that but so I always we know we

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    fly like that so but no I've taken that

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    advice no more strippers no more

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    bartenders none not that there's

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    anything wrong with them there's mad

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    [ __ ] wrong with them no I think you know

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    I W say all I won't say all maybe some

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    are just finding their way there you

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    know whatever I could whatever whatever

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    but just saying your habits need to

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    change yeah so things are things are

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    different now and I'm happy about that

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    good now things are different for you

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    yes oh this is what we're doing like

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    personal business no Oh I thought you

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    were going to be like no no no no no no

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    come on I don't do that oh whatever I I

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    met with the book I want to get the

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    professional [ __ ] out the way so I can

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    clown okay that's how oh this is like a

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    serious interview I'm sorry I'm focused

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    go ahead what did you like no no so now

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    oh hold on am I stepping on your foot

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    let me get the book no she has she has

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    to get the book the book no you think

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    queen of radio didn't come to here with

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    the book you thought she gave it to

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    Elliott and not us can I read the

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    forward I didn't give it to Elliot yet

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    nobody can I read the forward since it's

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    only a couple Pages you said like on the

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    podcast no no I went to myself I can

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    read really fast yes you can read it

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    today but not write this second okay

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    fine we're talking we're doing no but I

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    could talk and read at the same time but

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    why are you I want to see the book okay

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    well I will say the last book we got was

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    um how to be a bad [ __ ]

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    by that good also a good I can leave

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    this one out like on the coffee table at

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    my house I couldn't really leave had to

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    be a bad [ __ ] I did I liked it to some

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    people was it good I mean they said it

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    was it was more like a it really wasn't

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    a I don't think I was the audience I'll

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    be honest with you it wouldn't wouldn't

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    run gra is pretty good this is this is a

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    great looking book thank you you look

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    great on the cover Andie Martinez for

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    Word by J Cole I pre-ordered last night

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    I'm very excited about it than you m i

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    see a bunch of amazing quotes from many

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    of the Great relationships you've

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    established over the years did how did

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    you feel doing this that's what I want

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    to know was this scary it or now cuz you

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    know I'm two weeks out it's not the

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    world hasn't seen it yet so I'm having a

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    little anxiety right as no not releasing

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    not releasing yes no fear because I

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    thought to myself let me just get it out

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    and then if there if I feel fear at the

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    end or if I feel like it's too much then

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    I'll just pull back let me just write it

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    with no thinking let me write it with no

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    repercussions of anybody let me not

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    worry about people's feelings let me not

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    think about anybody let me just write my

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    [ __ ] and then I could assess after but

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    the truth is I wrote the [ __ ] and then I

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    felt

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    like it's I'm okay with everything that

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    I feel and and think and there's nothing

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    there's nothing that you have to feel

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    away about yeah I feel like there's a

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    couple of people that I am prepared

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    prepared for somebody to feel away about

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    maybe something I said I am also

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    prepared for something I didn't mean for

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    somebody to take wrong I also prepared

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    for somebody to have a different memory

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    or recollection of how I saw it um and

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    that's fine that's what I'm but that's

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    what I'm asking about because that's so

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    new I would think in your field you're

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    so great because you know how to avoid

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    that so now to be in an arena where

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    you're subject to that too we're not

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    listening to the voice that's protected

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    by the uh radio we're hearing straight

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    from Angie Martinez yeah but I don't

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    think that's so different than who I am

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    and not who you are but who you are who

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    I know and on the radio that's you think

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    they're different I know when you're

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    doing a radio interview and one of them

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    [ __ ] say something real stupid I

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    know what Angie my friend is thinking I

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    know I know what Angie says on the radio

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    okay like give me an example give me an

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    example no CU now you're getting me hot

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    no no can you name a name please and my

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    memory is not even that drop names

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    Listen to It's possible but you know

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    this headline is

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    everything my ladies night right I want

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    to talk about that only because you hate

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    talking about that's such a weird

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    beginning but go ahead not for me

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    because many years ago during our

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    friendship I made me or it was during a

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    Monopoly game I made mention of ladies

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    night you didn't want to talk about it I

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    was taking a back cuz for me that's an

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    important time in hip-hop why because

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    women together and yeah yeah I agree no

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    that I agree with totally totally

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    totally agree that was you know even

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    that that video

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    mhm a lot was special just about that

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    time and that moment but to see the

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    women so what I was probably shying away

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    from was not ladies I am no way ashamed

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    of being part of that I think um I think

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    that was dope and yeah I feel like how

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    you feel like about it and I feel I wish

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    that we would see more of that yeah I

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    just think that part of me being an

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    artist was such a touch and I talk about

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    it in the book and I talk about some of

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    the mistakes I made and one of the

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    mistakes being that listening to too

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    much [ __ ] too much noise from other

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    people you know I'm good at like doing

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    what I doing me but I think at that time

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    I was insecure and I was learning so

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    it's like I'm learning in front of

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    everybody and I think I let the noise of

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    people's expectations comments thoughts

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    blah blah blah get in the way of me

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    actually trying to really become better

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    at it or really just even if it was just

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    enjoying the experience of that moment

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    you know what I'm saying like that's I

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    feel like that's the lesson I learned

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    from that time cuz I was in the studio

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    with like Salam doing my album and like

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    you know everybody came and did I'm

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    talking about great artist Snoop and you

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    know the locks and all these like for

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    real artists and Jay people more

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    supportive people are supportive I

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    should have enjoyed that more than I did

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    because I had so much anxiety about it I

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    had so much I was nervous I was like

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    [ __ ] I was still trying to learn and

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    it'd be like if you was in high school

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    and somebody was like go do this this

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    thing with these college professors yeah

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    you know what I'm saying so you'd be

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    like and I feel like I should have never

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    let that and I'm so usually good at

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    blocking out noise and at that period

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    for some reason I I let it I let it

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    interfere with how how I executed so

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    that's the that's the discomfort that

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    you hear you know what I'm saying it's

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    not like I'm ashamed of ladies night no

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    no no not that all right that makes I'm

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    ashamed of some of the clothing that I

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    wore we all

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    surrounding remember your velour

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    sweatsuit when you walked um if I could

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    go on to 106 in park and I was

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    watching probably what I wore

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    she's that's probably what I wore I

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    remember sitting in my room watch like a

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    custom joint with like a leather patch

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    on or something so dope my still wears

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    the same

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    but shut up M probably bought that exact

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    one 10 when I posted it on eBay against

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    all OD had like knockoff so got one as

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    warn by Angie Martinez well uh with that

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    said in in writing the book obviously

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    you have emotions when certain things

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    happen between people that you may care

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    about and there's altercations or

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    misjudgments or disagreements yeah and

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    then there's the Forgiveness process and

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    you may be cool with those people now

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    how do you properly Express that in the

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    book because you're no longer feeling

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    that way but you felt that way point

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    what this is what I'm saying I just

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    wrote I just wrote it but usually my

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    truth is okay so it's like if you just

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    write the truth even if you're in the

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    negative part and you're writing it as

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    you felt in that moment by the time you

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    get to the end you I am wherever I am

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    now in 2016 that's where I am with it so

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    it carries full like I'll give you one

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    of the examples is that my phone sorry

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    who is it anybody good oh so I'll call

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    her back is that rude I wouldn't do that

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    I was just about to say I'm really

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    shocked Angie doesn't know to have her

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    phone on vibrate when she comes in Buton

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    podcast thought going to be like I

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    didn't know it was like a professional

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    thing happening anyway um so one of the

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    examples I don't I have to probably call

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    him when do you drop this before then

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    I'm going to call him and tell him so um

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    tonight now

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    now actually

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    live I mean there's a bunch of stuff

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    with puff puff and I had had some

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    moments but you know ultimately like I

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    ran the marathon a couple years ago he

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    donated $26,000 to my run so yes I felt

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    the ways I felt and I still when I write

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    it I'm writing it as I felt in that

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    moment but ultimately we've all grown up

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    and now so I don't you know I don't have

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    no feelings about that but even Salam

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    who was one of my closest friends coming

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    up and was like standing next to me like

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    a lot of the early years we had a moment

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    where you know when the whole thing

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    happened with nas remember the Nas and

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    the we wereing about just talked about

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    so that like hurt me because I felt like

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    Salam was not was like kind of like when

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    you and I were seeing each other I mean

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    we're still friends but I mean remember

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    we were almost every day we would talk

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    Salam and I were like that for very long

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    time you know and so when the nas thing

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    happened he was producing for he was

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    doing Nas's album so he was standing

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    next to Nas and so through that whole

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    time he never really reached out to me

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    and I felt the way I felt like you

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    supposed to be my like I don't care who

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    you working with like you're my real

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    friend like you're but and so I write

  • 14:24

    about that in the book but you know me

  • 14:25

    and Salam are friends now again since

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    then that was just the moment in time he

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    just hit me now to ask me about the the

  • 14:30

    book party because he wants to come to

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    the book party so I had when the book

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    party are we invited to the book party

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    you want me to tell everybody when when

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    and where or can I tell you when we're

  • 14:37

    done here you can text it to me okay

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    okay no put the RSVP email on here as

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    well we're doing a bunch to hit hitting

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    the road but I but I adore Salam and

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    respect Salam but it was just you know I

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    could I wrote it in an honest way in an

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    honest way I felt away as his friend

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    your producer n trying to put my lights

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    out you don't even reach out to me and

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    make sure I'm good or to just leave you

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    know check the temperature but also on

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    his side of it you know I was busy we

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    hardly wasn't really speaking that much

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    any me just cuz our lives he's producing

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    his album he's standing next to him

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    every night he probably just wanted to

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    stay out of it which I totally

  • 15:12

    understand but in the moment how it felt

  • 15:14

    was and so I had to be honest when

  • 15:16

    writing that but um so there's like [ __ ]

  • 15:18

    you know there's stuff like I could

  • 15:19

    curse on the podcast right hell yeah

  • 15:21

    [ __ ] yeah yes on our podcast no the one

  • 15:24

    thing I wish I could do on the radio

  • 15:26

    sometimes but yeah so I tell stories

  • 15:28

    like that about [ __ ] like that

  • 15:29

    do you think that this is a book you

  • 15:31

    could have written at any other

  • 15:33

    time no no because now I feel like I

  • 15:38

    just had a big this big transition last

  • 15:40

    year which gives me and I feel like the

  • 15:42

    things that are in my brain and the the

  • 15:44

    ideas and creative [ __ ] that I want to

  • 15:46

    do is so forward that right now I'm like

  • 15:49

    in between Both Worlds it's like I have

  • 15:52

    this amazing radio career for the past

  • 15:53

    20 years and then I also have these

  • 15:56

    ideas of grandeur of things that I want

  • 15:58

    to do and more books and maybe films and

  • 16:01

    TV like I have all these things that I

  • 16:03

    and so I feel like right now especially

  • 16:05

    at after closing the chapter at hot I

  • 16:07

    feel like people just gave me so I mean

  • 16:11

    I feel like the love whatever

  • 16:12

    relationship I had with like the

  • 16:13

    listeners or you know culture whatever

  • 16:16

    our relationship was I feel like in that

  • 16:18

    moment when I made that change that it

  • 16:20

    was Amplified you know what I'm saying

  • 16:23

    like I felt like everybody felt strong

  • 16:24

    either they it was either they were

  • 16:26

    madder or they were love me more and

  • 16:28

    wanted to tell me but everyone had a

  • 16:30

    feeling period everybody had a feeling

  • 16:32

    and that [ __ ] affected me so confused at

  • 16:34

    what is talking about right now cuz you

  • 16:36

    you're every day you're coin it's the

  • 16:39

    voice of New York how did you think New

  • 16:42

    York would feel when someone who's

  • 16:45

    established enough to say I'm the voice

  • 16:48

    of New York leaves that station that

  • 16:51

    they have heard her on forever even when

  • 16:53

    people like me did not know very sudden

  • 16:56

    nobody know I know I'm aware nobody

  • 16:59

    so it's it's it's not that I think

  • 17:02

    didn't think people were going to react

  • 17:04

    it's just I had so much other [ __ ] to

  • 17:05

    prepare for I had to prepare for like

  • 17:07

    how am I going to get out of this

  • 17:08

    smoothly and make sure I show the

  • 17:09

    respect to the people that deserve the

  • 17:11

    respect and the transition and how do I

  • 17:13

    just myself be right in my you know I

  • 17:15

    was worried about so much and I knew

  • 17:17

    people would react but I had to like

  • 17:19

    just kind of like it'll be whatever it's

  • 17:20

    going to be they're going to be mad

  • 17:21

    they're going to not understand they're

  • 17:22

    going to love what but I did not expect

  • 17:26

    cuz you know you make an announcement

  • 17:27

    like that then everybody's like yo oh

  • 17:29

    the time yo one time you did this one

  • 17:31

    time I saw you here and you said this to

  • 17:32

    me and I carried it yo one time I called

  • 17:34

    your show and I I met my wife and I had

  • 17:37

    proposed to her on the air and we're

  • 17:38

    married 10 years like all of this stuff

  • 17:40

    people started coming at me so I all

  • 17:42

    those stories and I started just

  • 17:43

    thinking like now is the time man I have

  • 17:45

    I have people that grew up with me and

  • 17:47

    also I'm seeing a shift in the culture

  • 17:48

    right so like I just yesterday I went to

  • 17:50

    go do um some been doing these colleges

  • 17:53

    and so I'm seeing some of the

  • 17:57

    history there like a gap where you

  • 18:01

    going am I boring

  • 18:04

    you Sor are you sweating cuz it's 150

  • 18:07

    Dees in here yes so there's a gap Al so

  • 18:10

    I think there's a gap in some of the the

  • 18:11

    um you know the things like we remember

  • 18:14

    the some of the important [ __ ] that

  • 18:15

    happened on the radio that we might

  • 18:17

    remember I think there's a generation

  • 18:19

    coming up now that doesn't remember

  • 18:20

    those stories there that they don't

  • 18:22

    remember Jay-Z and R Kelly comeing up to

  • 18:23

    the station in the middle of the night

  • 18:24

    cuz the Best of Both Worlds fell apart

  • 18:26

    they don't remember the locks getting

  • 18:27

    that puffy on the air trying to get

  • 18:28

    their ing back they don't remember you

  • 18:30

    know the N [ __ ] you were just talking

  • 18:31

    about you know the N [ __ ] when he got on

  • 18:33

    the radio and [ __ ] on you know we

  • 18:36

    spoke all about that on two podcasts ago

  • 18:38

    there was a new generation that didn't

  • 18:40

    experience that cuz the Birdman thing

  • 18:42

    happened and everyone reacted and we

  • 18:44

    were discussing how often that happened

  • 18:47

    on radio now you said something to me a

  • 18:49

    long time ago and I really couldn't

  • 18:52

    understand the weight of the sentence at

  • 18:54

    the time even though you tried to

  • 18:55

    explain it to me but I probably was

  • 18:57

    blocking all that [ __ ] out because of my

  • 18:58

    own personal [ __ ] but you said we were

  • 19:00

    talking about you and your relationship

  • 19:01

    with your child I get a lot of jewels

  • 19:03

    from you on a l

  • 19:06

    love I think you don't I think you know

  • 19:08

    what I'm saying well I have to cherish

  • 19:10

    the the my older friends cuz I hang

  • 19:12

    around so many [ __ ] you said thanks

  • 19:15

    you said we don't hang out so and you

  • 19:18

    said it almost like you were having an

  • 19:20

    epiphany yourself you said yo I really

  • 19:23

    like my

  • 19:24

    kid I've told that story not about you

  • 19:28

    but I said that about my kid who I'm

  • 19:30

    recently getting to know yeah I like him

  • 19:33

    you do good that's no it's better than

  • 19:36

    great it's great I could have not liked

  • 19:38

    them that would have been awkward yeah

  • 19:41

    no but her saying that I know that this

  • 19:42

    sounds real yeah you're just supposed to

  • 19:44

    like a kid that's what I said that's not

  • 19:45

    what I'm saying you are supposed to like

  • 19:46

    your [ __ ] kid it's different when you

  • 19:48

    can like your kid so to see you and I

  • 19:52

    know we're supposed to talk to you about

  • 19:53

    this book but [ __ ] that cuz I'm on

  • 19:56

    energy okay and to see you from your

  • 20:01

    career who we all we thought you were at

  • 20:03

    the top there but no there's even

  • 20:05

    greater than that and to see

  • 20:08

    you go through and and and you know and

  • 20:11

    come out and I'm not going to talk about

  • 20:12

    your personal life but to be happy there

  • 20:14

    as well and to just finally start to see

  • 20:17

    the work from years past come together

  • 20:20

    we don't talk about that cuz I ain't a

  • 20:21

    suck ass [ __ ] and I don't really care

  • 20:23

    but I'm proud and it sets an example for

  • 20:27

    people like me thank you I am not saying

  • 20:29

    that again now when did this book come

  • 20:32

    out come on come on come on I

  • 20:36

    got sad when did you become this way who

  • 20:39

    are you is this the new girlfriend is

  • 20:41

    the new girlfriend doing this yo you're

  • 20:43

    going to have a heart attack when you

  • 20:44

    find out who this girl is I know her I

  • 20:46

    think

  • 20:47

    so and we were just talking about

  • 20:49

    you but does she know

  • 20:53

    where oh I think I know who it

  • 20:56

    is cuz I looked because I had your phone

  • 20:58

    and I I was like I wonder what that name

  • 21:00

    is oh God I think I know no her name is

  • 21:02

    not even as a name no I don't believe

  • 21:04

    you I don't believe you nope think I

  • 21:05

    know but yeah that's neither here what

  • 21:07

    is the big secret is there like it's not

  • 21:09

    I don't speak to Marissa about anything

  • 21:12

    important why why would I speak to

  • 21:14

    Marissa about anything of relevance who

  • 21:16

    is she then you don't want to say oh

  • 21:17

    andie's doing that thing again no I

  • 21:19

    don't no no I don't I don't divulge

  • 21:20

    everything okay I'm like you now I keep

  • 21:23

    think some well I just wrote a book

  • 21:24

    about my life I a lot I was going say

  • 21:27

    she did just write lot

  • 21:29

    yeah but on her

  • 21:30

    terms as everything should be all the

  • 21:33

    time after she's waited some time 20

  • 21:35

    years hey that's how it should be done

  • 21:38

    absolutely let me tell you something sit

  • 21:39

    on some [ __ ] for 21 years then make a

  • 21:41

    decision don't just be Hasty and hit s

  • 21:44

    don't go just don't just go write a book

  • 21:46

    about some [ __ ] damn it out the gate

  • 21:48

    yeah yeah no no this is how it should be

  • 21:49

    done pass me this it really does help

  • 21:51

    because then you can really reflect on

  • 21:52

    the full picture of everything you can't

  • 21:54

    write about it while it's still

  • 21:55

    emotional and still look you hear you

  • 21:57

    could go straight to the to the pictures

  • 21:59

    that'll give you that'll give you so I

  • 22:02

    know but this will give you an

  • 22:03

    understanding of what I get into like

  • 22:05

    you know my father and his you know and

  • 22:07

    his hat and his habits and by the way

  • 22:09

    his

  • 22:10

    habits yeah he was addicted to heroin so

  • 22:14

    then I go into wasn't everybody back

  • 22:16

    there and yeah but I haven't seen him

  • 22:18

    since I was 10 because of it okay so

  • 22:19

    then I go into family and then I end

  • 22:22

    with family I end with my new family so

  • 22:25

    it goes I know got a phot phot got a

  • 22:29

    couple

  • 22:30

    photos oh so I go from my family and

  • 22:34

    there a child and then I go

  • 22:36

    through these are all my like those are

  • 22:39

    like all my Gods son and my son and my

  • 22:41

    my son's brother half Brothers why is he

  • 22:43

    wearing a Warriors jersey where's this

  • 22:45

    picture being taken no because that's

  • 22:46

    his his basketball team oh he was coming

  • 22:49

    from a game he looks crazy he needs a

  • 22:50

    haircut in that picture but whatever it

  • 22:51

    was the picture I had to fall of them

  • 22:52

    together oh look so these are amazing

  • 22:55

    pictures yeah so it takes you through my

  • 22:57

    career this second part is my career and

  • 22:59

    then but you can get a sense like I

  • 23:00

    really go through the Spectrum you could

  • 23:01

    go go through the chapter list too

  • 23:03

    that'll give you an idea of like well

  • 23:05

    that's what I was trying to do until you

  • 23:06

    hey let me let go to the picture for you

  • 23:08

    you're so good at your job that you

  • 23:10

    won't let me be good at the podcast but

  • 23:11

    go ahead no carry on where's this oh I

  • 23:13

    don't want to read that's just from the

  • 23:15

    publisher because because from reading

  • 23:17

    the uh let me get here oh yeah baby give

  • 23:19

    me the that was wonderful I use a little

  • 23:22

    Oprah quote at the beginning cuz I love

  • 23:23

    that you can read

  • 23:26

    it you're so gay

  • 23:30

    you just you you had the gayest moment

  • 23:32

    ever no but this is gay it's dope though

  • 23:36

    it's still gay pick it I was once afraid

  • 23:38

    of people saying don't if you read it

  • 23:40

    like that it sounds

  • 23:42

    nuts an it's really regular I was once

  • 23:45

    afraid of people saying who does she

  • 23:46

    think she is now I have the courage to

  • 23:48

    stand and say this is who I am okay

  • 23:51

    Oprah Winfrey talk about it and it's

  • 23:54

    true because you know be like you know I

  • 23:56

    was a kid so you like oh I'm just try I

  • 23:59

    think that's what explains what I've

  • 24:00

    been best trying to say a lot of the

  • 24:02

    things that I know that you may have

  • 24:04

    felt uncomfortable with at some point

  • 24:06

    you seem to have owned and how do you

  • 24:09

    how do you get to that point yeah tell

  • 24:10

    Marissa please well no I mean but also

  • 24:13

    you made a point too when you were

  • 24:14

    saying um you know talking about people

  • 24:16

    coming up in this radio culture how it's

  • 24:18

    a lot different and there's so much more

  • 24:19

    noise now and so much more people

  • 24:21

    getting in your head and it's a lot

  • 24:23

    harder to tune it out and become it's

  • 24:25

    hard for me and I think I'm good at it

  • 24:27

    and I it's still hard for so I really

  • 24:29

    almost feel bad for people that never

  • 24:31

    experienced anything else it's a

  • 24:33

    struggle not a struggle it has to be

  • 24:36

    it's a struggle for me sometimes I want

  • 24:37

    to post something and I'm like I'm not

  • 24:38

    going to post that cuz who the hell

  • 24:39

    wants to deal with the [ __ ] that

  • 24:41

    somebody's going to say the comments or

  • 24:42

    whatever sometimes I have an amazing

  • 24:44

    moment when my kid and I don't even want

  • 24:45

    to share it cuz it's like I don't even

  • 24:46

    want to put myself open but then it's

  • 24:48

    like then you're halfway living your

  • 24:49

    your life and your truth people are not

  • 24:51

    enjoying moments they're just trying to

  • 24:54

    convince other people that they are that

  • 24:57

    also and I think this a

  • 24:58

    um it's almost like a comedy contest of

  • 25:01

    who could be the funniest and who could

  • 25:03

    be the most disrespectful and the

  • 25:04

    trolliest and and that and it's a it's

  • 25:07

    just it's a very dysfunctional kind of I

  • 25:09

    mean it's hilarious I thoroughly enjoy

  • 25:11

    it sometimes but sometimes it's very

  • 25:14

    it's sad and it's like um I see the

  • 25:16

    effects of what it does to especially

  • 25:18

    you know even me but I'm grown and you

  • 25:20

    know and and kind of evolved but even

  • 25:22

    somebody a younger woman especially that

  • 25:25

    has to feel like she got to look a

  • 25:26

    certain way to get a certain amount of

  • 25:27

    followers a certain amount of hits C

  • 25:28

    amount

  • 25:29

    comments I couldn't I couldn't I'm glad

  • 25:31

    I have a son I'm glad I have a son who's

  • 25:33

    like I don't really need social media

  • 25:34

    Mom I'm like thank you Jes is that what

  • 25:36

    he says yeah he wanted it at one point

  • 25:38

    and I kind I said no and then I see all

  • 25:40

    his friends have it and I'm like okay at

  • 25:42

    at least want to talk to you about it

  • 25:44

    I'm not saying yes but let me see where

  • 25:45

    you at with it smart kid and so I and so

  • 25:48

    I came I came back around to it and I

  • 25:49

    was like so how you feeling about it now

  • 25:51

    he was like yeah I'm kind of over it I

  • 25:52

    see my friends and I've seen it I've

  • 25:54

    looked you know he's seen them do it and

  • 25:55

    look and he's like it just seems like

  • 25:56

    too much work I'm cool and he's you know

  • 25:58

    so he's not press That's amazing I know

  • 26:01

    I mean if I could get him off the damn

  • 26:02

    Xbox that would be amazing my is red to

  • 26:05

    that Xbox Xbox is the devil it's the

  • 26:07

    devil and the phone YouTube right that's

  • 26:10

    all yeah he does he watch kids play

  • 26:13

    games on YouTube all day that's like a

  • 26:15

    thing that's such a that's so like they

  • 26:17

    watch other kids play video games on

  • 26:19

    YouTube day that's all he wants to do he

  • 26:21

    wants to watch them it's so weird I

  • 26:23

    rather that though than you be on

  • 26:25

    Instagram or Twitter or searching for

  • 26:26

    likes or searching for you know

  • 26:27

    followers or

  • 26:29

    validation right I rather you just find

  • 26:31

    something that's funny that you you know

  • 26:32

    whatever I rather that how many ailments

  • 26:35

    do you have currently uh the listeners

  • 26:37

    don't know but an always has an ailment

  • 26:39

    she can't bowl without one um actually

  • 26:42

    is the reason for that we don't go

  • 26:44

    bowling anymore your pink I hurt my

  • 26:46

    hands you sprained your pinky I sprain

  • 26:47

    my wrist you your ear Lo broke my ear

  • 26:50

    she always get some weird wild stupid

  • 26:52

    [ __ ] injury well that's a

  • 26:55

    lie I have plenty of days where there's

  • 26:57

    no injury

  • 26:58

    well we don't bowl I get headaches

  • 27:00

    though I get migraines oh that's bad

  • 27:02

    that's bad but all the great and then

  • 27:03

    the migraines affect other things so

  • 27:05

    that it makes you like not want to be do

  • 27:07

    anything so no bowling no more Monopoly

  • 27:09

    no nothing in your spare time to have

  • 27:11

    fun see that's why and you in love I'm

  • 27:13

    going to get me some damn love and I'm

  • 27:15

    going to stop [ __ ] with you [ __ ]

  • 27:16

    too playing what you talking about we I

  • 27:17

    do stuff what do you do for your Mig

  • 27:19

    play Monopoly she takes [ __ ]

  • 27:23

    time for Migra it doesn't work like that

  • 27:25

    be the key is to catch it early I could

  • 27:27

    I have so in tune with him now I can

  • 27:29

    feel it coming and I pop a couple exed

  • 27:31

    before should getting money for that but

  • 27:34

    um wait how getting migraines I get

  • 27:37

    migraines a lot I used to get them at

  • 27:39

    least once or twice a month yeah that

  • 27:41

    [ __ ] is like dehab like an emergency

  • 27:42

    room dot I've been to the emergency room

  • 27:45

    at least five to six times when the lady

  • 27:49

    says to me on a scale of 1 to 10 I'm

  • 27:51

    like 12 my head feels like I I am going

  • 27:55

    to explode hasn't I haven't gotten one

  • 27:57

    that bad in long time but yeah throwing

  • 27:59

    up the whole thing is bad it's terrible

  • 28:00

    well playing Monopoly with Joe will

  • 28:02

    cause one so I would stay away from that

  • 28:04

    so it was probably Joe cuz I haven't had

  • 28:05

    one in quite some time Ang is used to

  • 28:07

    way worse than me Irv is much louder

  • 28:09

    than me so is Ka very obnoxious I was

  • 28:11

    actually one of the more quiet people

  • 28:13

    I'm Qui can't even imagine how bad they

  • 28:14

    are if it's unbearable I stopped playing

  • 28:16

    with them you only broke listen this is

  • 28:19

    the she only has one copy but I

  • 28:20

    pre-order mine so I'm okay I'm going to

  • 28:21

    get you guys you autograph me like a

  • 28:24

    paper that's pret and I'll stick it in

  • 28:25

    my book when it I'm going to give you

  • 28:27

    one I get a bunch next week week early

  • 28:28

    ones so I don't want to scare anybody oh

  • 28:30

    God what are we doing but it don't sound

  • 28:32

    like you trying to be at power to much

  • 28:34

    longer no what because because when

  • 28:37

    you're that creative oh no no and all

  • 28:40

    right I take it

  • 28:41

    back in the same exact capacity no I

  • 28:45

    definitely would like to do more stuff

  • 28:46

    they have by the way that company has a

  • 28:48

    ton iHeart iHeart has a ton of stuff

  • 28:50

    that they're doing some I can't talk

  • 28:52

    about yet okay um but there's a lot of

  • 28:54

    opportunity within that company and so

  • 28:56

    I'm good and the radio thing is easy

  • 28:58

    it's like not hard you know what I'm

  • 28:59

    saying so I could do that and still

  • 29:02

    explore other things do other things and

  • 29:03

    I could do that within that umbrella and

  • 29:05

    that umbrella is very helpful but I

  • 29:06

    can't ask you about none of the other

  • 29:07

    things yet why you just oh yeah because

  • 29:10

    I'm still no because I'm focusing on my

  • 29:11

    book now F nobody want hear that but

  • 29:14

    when is one promotion at a time when is

  • 29:15

    the book being released how are you

  • 29:17

    buying it you went where I already

  • 29:19

    pre-ordered on amazon.com it's also pre

  • 29:21

    I heard that so I feel that pre

  • 29:23

    pre-orders are important it's like first

  • 29:25

    week for a book for a movie it's like

  • 29:27

    first weekend because the pre-orders get

  • 29:29

    you on those lists and to available May

  • 29:32

    17th it's available May 17 May 17th my

  • 29:35

    voice Angie martinz are you going to

  • 29:36

    really read it will you read it I'm I'm

  • 29:39

    really going to read it not just because

  • 29:41

    we're here and you're here I'm going to

  • 29:42

    read it I'm truly looking forward to

  • 29:43

    like learning from this book like really

  • 29:45

    learning things for my career really

  • 29:47

    yeah good that makes me happy there's a

  • 29:49

    lot in there I'm going tell you that

  • 29:50

    yeah there like even before we knew you

  • 29:52

    were coming to the show I just had it on

  • 29:53

    my to-do list to pre-order and I kept

  • 29:55

    forgetting and so finally when I knew

  • 29:56

    you were coming I pre my assistant she

  • 29:57

    read it three times yeah like I'm I'm so

  • 30:00

    I'm so looking forward to like yeah but

  • 30:01

    this is some [ __ ] because I didn't

  • 30:03

    even want Angie to come in until I read

  • 30:04

    the book but I could read the book I can

  • 30:07

    come back I was about to say you have to

  • 30:08

    come back we got do like a part two

  • 30:10

    after we dig here's the thing cuz I'm

  • 30:12

    going to do a audio book too which I'm

  • 30:14

    excited the same book or yeah yeah no

  • 30:17

    this book audio I'm doing it now it

  • 30:18

    supposed to come out at the same time

  • 30:19

    but it's taking me longer than I who who

  • 30:22

    knew I was like I'll run through that an

  • 30:23

    hour no took a long time to do an audio

  • 30:26

    book so we missed the dat so it's not

  • 30:28

    going to come out I don't think the same

  • 30:29

    day um it'll be like a couple weeks

  • 30:31

    after but did you know that audio books

  • 30:34

    could get nominated for Gramm what I did

  • 30:37

    not know that I know so nobody should

  • 30:39

    have ever told me that cuz now I'm like

  • 30:41

    it has to be I got to do it right and

  • 30:45

    then I got to get someone to score it

  • 30:46

    yeah like by the way I thought about

  • 30:49

    that but call and get him you imagine

  • 30:53

    the music the background would be

  • 30:54

    amazing call just blaze it would be like

  • 30:56

    a podast it would be like it win be like

  • 30:58

    an 8 Hour podcast like music but they

  • 31:01

    but the book company was like have these

  • 31:02

    artists jump in with their quotes for

  • 31:04

    you but say it live on the on the audio

  • 31:07

    book I do have somebody really dope

  • 31:08

    reading the um forward for me the jcole

  • 31:11

    forward cuz I didn't really want to be

  • 31:12

    like reading about myself oh so it's not

  • 31:14

    J.Cole reading it no I have a um

  • 31:16

    somebody else actor o yeah a good one

  • 31:21

    Moran tell cuz he's about to do it in

  • 31:24

    two days and go of it something happens

  • 31:26

    and I'm like the jerk that I was like

  • 31:27

    yeah I got

  • 31:29

    oh I guess fine well no you might you

  • 31:31

    might sell more copies with do in the

  • 31:32

    audio book after people might buy both

  • 31:34

    tell me there double up I hope so how

  • 31:36

    many I know the uh how many books do you

  • 31:39

    have to sell it's different from albums

  • 31:42

    you know I keep trying to understand I

  • 31:43

    keep asking these questions 30,000 it's

  • 31:46

    like that it's like 20 something like

  • 31:47

    that in the first week or something yeah

  • 31:49

    they got funny rules but I can't get a

  • 31:51

    clear answer so I'm just like I'm just

  • 31:53

    going to go hard and I'm going to put it

  • 31:55

    in the air and I really hope that people

  • 31:57

    like it and it's sells a lot but I don't

  • 31:59

    know I don't know what it takes to get a

  • 32:00

    bestseller but I I hope I get one cuz I

  • 32:02

    want to be able to be like yeah I got a

  • 32:04

    bestseller well I think you're well

  • 32:07

    don't see it not happening I mean if it

  • 32:09

    doesn't it's fine whatever is supposed

  • 32:10

    to happen is supposed to

  • 32:13

    happen what I believe that I'm ni not

  • 32:15

    [ __ ] I really believe that you're

  • 32:17

    looking at me as if I don't oh don't he

  • 32:20

    was saying like Oh I thought you thought

  • 32:22

    I was like no no no no no no like they

  • 32:24

    think I am no May 17th May 17th Angie my

  • 32:28

    voice and Memoir no I wanted to ask you

  • 32:31

    did no I just want to I just wanted to

  • 32:33

    let people know did you see the actress

  • 32:35

    playing you in the Tupac movie I saw um

  • 32:38

    something of her a picture of her on

  • 32:39

    Instagram and how crazy is it the six

  • 32:42

    degrees of separation or whatever

  • 32:44

    because that's that's jy's is it that's

  • 32:47

    his ex oh is that who that is yes isn't

  • 32:50

    that crazy well I didn't know number one

  • 32:53

    and number two I was like how come

  • 32:54

    nobody called me to ask me ask you if

  • 32:56

    you had any input on that no because I

  • 32:58

    had reached out a couple of times and I

  • 33:00

    don't know if we reached out to the

  • 33:01

    wrong person because I you know I have

  • 33:02

    these Tupac tapes and I heard they were

  • 33:03

    doing this Tupac movie and I was calling

  • 33:05

    just because I wanted to make sure they

  • 33:07

    got it right to offer some information

  • 33:10

    and I never was able to get in touch

  • 33:11

    with anybody and then later I found out

  • 33:13

    there's somebody in the movie playing me

  • 33:15

    but I'm like how could she play me how

  • 33:16

    do they even know what really happened

  • 33:18

    yeah so I don't know what the movie I

  • 33:19

    don't know anyway is this a movie that's

  • 33:21

    this is who playing yeah the uh the

  • 33:24

    clips I saw on Instagram are they really

  • 33:26

    good but I mean in a good way yeah all

  • 33:29

    right good I hope so I hope it's good I

  • 33:31

    hope it's good it's pcking the guy

  • 33:32

    playing Su uh in the BMW in Vegas it's

  • 33:36

    the down to the laugh it's like scary to

  • 33:38

    look at I hope it's good I was hoping

  • 33:40

    that I'm very skeptical of it as well

  • 33:41

    but from like like he said the clips

  • 33:43

    it's not I'm skeptical of it I just I

  • 33:45

    don't know what my role they have

  • 33:46

    somebody playing me and I don't know

  • 33:48

    what she's doing and nobody ever asked

  • 33:50

    me what happened so I don't know what

  • 33:52

    she's going to say or portray because

  • 33:54

    they don't know nobody ask me they

  • 33:56

    should buy the book I don't know why

  • 33:57

    they why would they not this is what I

  • 33:59

    was I was going to send for because I

  • 34:01

    have excerpts I tell the whole story

  • 34:03

    like they could have I would have sent

  • 34:04

    them early copies just just to tell them

  • 34:06

    and those Pock tapes are not fully out

  • 34:08

    just are out stop there's like 12

  • 34:11

    minutes of a 2 and a half hour I wasn't

  • 34:14

    sure that were released I did put some

  • 34:16

    in the book because I wanted I put

  • 34:17

    transcripts of the parts that I didn't

  • 34:19

    air I wanted to tell the story of not

  • 34:21

    just for like the oh I got the exclusive

  • 34:24

    it's merely I just wanted to show why I

  • 34:26

    didn't do it give you a sense of what

  • 34:29

    the the reasoning was so I I shared some

  • 34:31

    of those transcripts in there and I tell

  • 34:32

    the story about going there and that

  • 34:33

    whole that whole thing um y you're doing

  • 34:37

    such a great job of making me want to

  • 34:38

    read this [ __ ] book really good yeah

  • 34:41

    I mean I was I feel because I I I you

  • 34:43

    know what I mean I I like it it's my

  • 34:44

    life so I would but I feel like I just

  • 34:47

    feel like I have things to offer at this

  • 34:49

    point so maybe that's to go back to your

  • 34:50

    question like is now the time it's Now's

  • 34:52

    the Time because I feel like I have

  • 34:53

    things to offer not just history and

  • 34:55

    stories to tell but also lessons that I

  • 34:57

    learned from it so it's like so I feel

  • 34:59

    good about it good it's not just like oh

  • 35:01

    let me write a book cuz I you know cuz

  • 35:03

    I'm you know years in that's a lot to

  • 35:06

    tell that's the time I don't think

  • 35:09

    anybody ever took an for a tell all book

  • 35:11

    person we don't we don't this as it

  • 35:14

    being a tell it's more like a I not it's

  • 35:19

    not a tell I'm saying she's not but I

  • 35:21

    tell a lot I

  • 35:23

    do re I tell a lot for a reason she

  • 35:26

    didn't tell all it's a tell aad book but

  • 35:28

    for a reason H lot for a reason book

  • 35:30

    yeah yeah it's different from that but

  • 35:32

    I'm just happy that to be able to have

  • 35:34

    the term author next to your name ni

  • 35:36

    right no it's pretty amazing and

  • 35:38

    something Happ you should write a book I

  • 35:40

    want to you absolutely should let me

  • 35:42

    tell you what happens to you so you

  • 35:44

    write a book and then all of a sudden

  • 35:45

    you start looking at things differently

  • 35:47

    because now you're like a writer and I

  • 35:48

    know that sounds crazy but it's really

  • 35:50

    true because you start processing things

  • 35:52

    like I don't know how to explain it but

  • 35:55

    something happens to your brain

  • 35:56

    something Clicks in your brain that

  • 35:57

    wasn't cck clicking before and now so

  • 35:59

    when I see things I'm like how about I

  • 36:01

    tell that story you start thinking of

  • 36:03

    how you start thinking of things as

  • 36:05

    stories everything that happens it's a

  • 36:07

    very interesting little process but I

  • 36:10

    think you who's like so cerebral I think

  • 36:12

    you would really enjoy the process well

  • 36:14

    it's funny you say that I that's been

  • 36:16

    happening a lot lately good I've been

  • 36:18

    telling all my young people about that h

  • 36:20

    a little little cereal action but

  • 36:22

    outside oh this [ __ ] wire this

  • 36:25

    nigga's in here tweeting engineer don't

  • 36:26

    do [ __ ] just feet up Reverb on the

  • 36:30

    hallway voice what is the last what do

  • 36:33

    you want him to do I want I want him to

  • 36:36

    look alert and engaged yeah I want him

  • 36:38

    to look like he's somebody I have to

  • 36:41

    hours normally when someone's rendering

  • 36:44

    Services I just want them to look like

  • 36:46

    they're

  • 36:47

    rendering that got feet up chilling I'm

  • 36:51

    sure he's not here by choice I'm sure if

  • 36:52

    he if his Services weren't being

  • 36:54

    rendered he would be somewhere else our

  • 36:56

    podcast is very enable no oh yeah he

  • 36:59

    looks like he ised every second he ready

  • 37:01

    get the [ __ ] out of here it it's fine

  • 37:04

    listen what do you do outside of work

  • 37:08

    you're so private it's tough to

  • 37:10

    interview you what do you want me to

  • 37:12

    tell you what would you like to know

  • 37:14

    what are you asking specifically

  • 37:16

    see no just get to it what do you want

  • 37:19

    to know I sh I want to know what you do

  • 37:21

    for you outside of work I don't do

  • 37:23

    enough for me that's the truth like I

  • 37:26

    don't do I I work on that that's the one

  • 37:28

    weakness I have is like I have to learn

  • 37:29

    how to even this week I'm on vacation

  • 37:32

    this week my boss said to me and she

  • 37:35

    yelled at my assistant do not let her

  • 37:37

    book anything this week she needs a

  • 37:39

    vacation my boss forced me on vacation I

  • 37:43

    book a trip to go away and here you are

  • 37:46

    and then they tell me you know we got

  • 37:48

    these College dates and I get excited

  • 37:50

    about the opportunity to go talk to

  • 37:52

    these college kids about my book and I

  • 37:53

    say book it and then I call my friend

  • 37:56

    Joe and I'm saying hey let's do the

  • 37:58

    podcast on Tuesday so I do not take

  • 38:01

    enough time for myself I something I

  • 38:03

    need to work on um yeah the very random

  • 38:05

    call last night but no because I'm

  • 38:08

    looking at I have a free Tuesday and I

  • 38:09

    remember you saying whenever you have a

  • 38:10

    free Tuesday I'm like let's do it now

  • 38:13

    cuz the schedule of the next month is

  • 38:14

    crazy so I was like let me get in in now

  • 38:16

    so this is my vacation week right now

  • 38:17

    I'm on vacation it feels like I'm it

  • 38:20

    feels like I'm in Africa in the studio

  • 38:21

    by the way close enough to vacation we

  • 38:24

    wanted to make it as tropical as you

  • 38:25

    could have at least got me like a p

  • 38:26

    collide like or something when are you

  • 38:29

    going to actually take a vacation I

  • 38:30

    don't know I'm going to figure it out so

  • 38:32

    that's the only thing that's the bad

  • 38:33

    thing but there's a lot to balance I

  • 38:35

    have a regular job I have a family I

  • 38:37

    have a child I have a book to promote I

  • 38:41

    have all these other projects that you

  • 38:43

    know it's like salot salot it's too much

  • 38:47

    how long did it take you to write it's

  • 38:48

    not just me I mean a lot of people feel

  • 38:50

    that experience but I'm I'm sure but at

  • 38:52

    some point you have to find time for you

  • 38:54

    I know are you uncomfortable when you

  • 38:55

    have free time and aren't doing anything

  • 38:57

    do you get like

  • 38:58

    antsy no but I have so many creative

  • 39:01

    ideas and thoughts and things that every

  • 39:02

    time I have a free space I want to fill

  • 39:04

    it up with [ __ ] that's why I'm scared of

  • 39:06

    older successful women yeah that right

  • 39:09

    there why cuz a lot of them suffer just

  • 39:10

    call me older that's like what anyway go

  • 39:13

    on older older grownups adults

  • 39:17

    bartenders and strippers have the whole

  • 39:18

    day Bree so I'm just Kidd I'm just

  • 39:20

    [ __ ] with you Jo you got to see where

  • 39:22

    his brain is at no baby girl kills me

  • 39:24

    with Bart the joke so it's fine I don't

  • 39:25

    care about that but see now for what I

  • 39:27

    where I was going it scares you I fill

  • 39:29

    up the time older uh but they don't know

  • 39:31

    how to there's a there's a coin there's

  • 39:33

    a terminology for that what is it called

  • 39:36

    successful they they just become so

  • 39:39

    engulfed in their

  • 39:40

    work yeah but I that's the thing I do

  • 39:43

    have a good balance with my family and

  • 39:45

    friends and work but I do not I need to

  • 39:48

    insert myself into that equation a

  • 39:50

    little bit more yeah but it's not that I

  • 39:52

    don't have time for like my family and

  • 39:54

    my you know but so late in the G how do

  • 39:57

    you learn how do you learn how to do

  • 40:00

    that yeah I will tell you let's get to

  • 40:02

    the nitty-gritty you know what I do

  • 40:04

    though now this is I'm and I'm going to

  • 40:06

    I'm going to figure it out in the next

  • 40:07

    couple months when to do it you know

  • 40:08

    what I do once a year this is going to

  • 40:10

    sound weird to you how old are you 28 I

  • 40:12

    almost forgot you might be almost ready

  • 40:13

    to do

  • 40:15

    this to do whatever no listen listen

  • 40:18

    once a year I've done this this is like

  • 40:20

    my third year in a row now once a year I

  • 40:21

    go somewhere by myself and I was

  • 40:23

    somebody I I would never go like to the

  • 40:25

    movies by myself I would never like

  • 40:27

    number one cuz I was always busy or just

  • 40:29

    felt weird or whatever but now I force

  • 40:31

    myself to go somewhere to shut off

  • 40:34

    because even if I'm with my man my

  • 40:36

    friends my my my co even if I'm with

  • 40:38

    somebody on vacation there's energy you

  • 40:40

    give them there's brain power you give

  • 40:41

    them you're you're operating under

  • 40:43

    somebody else's schedule sure I shut

  • 40:45

    down for like 3 or 4 days go somewhere

  • 40:49

    book magazine news whatever I want to do

  • 40:52

    and usually I do nothing usually I'm

  • 40:53

    like by a pool sitting around for 4 days

  • 40:55

    and then I'm dying to come home

  • 40:58

    doing nothing something but it's like

  • 40:59

    forcing myself to to do that just like

  • 41:01

    to shut down and I swear it's like I

  • 41:03

    feel so much better when I come back cuz

  • 41:04

    your brain gets a chance to like to just

  • 41:07

    like settle down and you get clarity on

  • 41:09

    a bunch of I recommend that for you my

  • 41:10

    dear yeah I I found the more that I pile

  • 41:13

    on it's becoming killing my creative not

  • 41:17

    necessarily how could it not yeah that's

  • 41:19

    that's the thing you got to give

  • 41:20

    yourself those moments so I try I I try

  • 41:23

    to do that it's only once a year if I

  • 41:24

    could do that two like twice a year and

  • 41:26

    then do like family vacation and get

  • 41:28

    that in I would be in a much better

  • 41:31

    balance so I'm working on it what the

  • 41:33

    [ __ ] you want me to do so you I got it

  • 41:35

    down now I don't okay okay listen I

  • 41:37

    can't say anything [ __ ] I a't take a

  • 41:39

    vacation I feel like you're judging me

  • 41:40

    no I haven't taken a I need a [ __ ]

  • 41:43

    vacation actually I need a Dr trip or

  • 41:45

    some [ __ ] yes yeah and not to uh [ __ ]

  • 41:48

    with the escorts out there like to

  • 41:50

    really spend time at the to really spend

  • 41:54

    time at the resort N I never do that

  • 41:56

    when I go out of town anyway anyway but

  • 41:58

    that's probably one of the reasons I

  • 41:59

    never go on vacation though I don't go

  • 42:01

    on vacation because when I go on

  • 42:02

    vacation I stay right in the room it

  • 42:04

    don't matter where I go South Beach I'm

  • 42:05

    in the room that's where I want to be

  • 42:07

    love room I love I love pay-per-view I

  • 42:09

    love the mini bar I love room service

  • 42:12

    all of that is great I like the pillow

  • 42:14

    and the

  • 42:14

    sheets and it still feels like away it

  • 42:18

    does I will go to a hotel in the city

  • 42:20

    and stay for two days and turn

  • 42:22

    everything off nobody gets when i' say

  • 42:23

    that i' sound like the same that's great

  • 42:25

    because weird though when but so am I

  • 42:28

    like that I get this is the things I get

  • 42:29

    about you I get that we get each other

  • 42:32

    on the same way Jesus so that's why I'm

  • 42:34

    not so quick to ever go on a vacation

  • 42:36

    but these last I think I feel like I've

  • 42:38

    been in La every month since October

  • 42:40

    that's not you have do and and B it has

  • 42:42

    it is true that's not vacation I said oh

  • 42:45

    no not vacation no no no well depend

  • 42:47

    know what you're doing now hey not

  • 42:49

    vacation no stop being weird not a

  • 42:51

    vacation okay fine but I just enjoy LA

  • 42:53

    but for me that's different it's Chang I

  • 42:56

    don't very rarely do I ever leave here

  • 43:00

    that often so even though I go out there

  • 43:02

    and I make work out of it because that's

  • 43:03

    just who I am I find some work to do I

  • 43:05

    got a trip this month [ __ ] set up some

  • 43:07

    shows out there cool it's fine it's

  • 43:10

    different it's new I that was on my

  • 43:12

    bucket list I wanted to travel more do

  • 43:14

    you have a real bucket list yes

  • 43:16

    skydiving was on my bucket list I have a

  • 43:18

    bunch of [ __ ] that's on my bucket list

  • 43:19

    me too isn't it weird how much we like

  • 43:21

    in like strange ways like that

  • 43:24

    no in life Peg you guys as similar

  • 43:26

    people but it's you are we have I have a

  • 43:28

    buck I have a real bucket list too like

  • 43:30

    I have a real one that I've written

  • 43:32

    stuff down and I have yeah I have

  • 43:33

    absolutely those things yeah that makes

  • 43:35

    sense you have to you guys but is that

  • 43:37

    weird yeah but I don't write it down in

  • 43:39

    my head no I have it like it's in my

  • 43:41

    it's in my phone like it's in the notes

  • 43:42

    you're too young for a bucket list I

  • 43:43

    just have go to Greece that's literally

  • 43:45

    my whole bucket list that's it it's one

  • 43:47

    thing what go to Greece okay why why

  • 43:51

    it's white grease it's beautiful you

  • 43:53

    heard yeah picture I I get off I have

  • 43:59

    Thailand is on mine I have Thailand I

  • 44:01

    also do want to go to Japan they're very

  • 44:02

    like KY over there so if anybody's

  • 44:03

    listening from Thailand this your

  • 44:04

    podcast do well in Thailand we got a

  • 44:08

    few what's the analytics like over there

  • 44:10

    in if anybody's listening I would like

  • 44:12

    to come there I want to go to Africa

  • 44:13

    Africa's on mine yeah I would love to go

  • 44:15

    to Africa too I haven't been yet I hear

  • 44:17

    it's

  • 44:18

    beautiful yeah Meo I have a problem with

  • 44:21

    very long flights and I don't know how

  • 44:23

    how long the flight to Africa is but I

  • 44:25

    feel like it's like 6 I feel about

  • 44:27

    Thailand but they got like some new [ __ ]

  • 44:29

    in the planes now where the beds

  • 44:31

    actually perform like beds oh yeah yeah

  • 44:33

    they can go all the way back you can lay

  • 44:34

    down yeah that might be nice I don't

  • 44:37

    know if I want to pay the 35 Grand say

  • 44:39

    35 Grand to lay down and something I

  • 44:42

    have at

  • 44:43

    home where I really want to be anyway $7

  • 44:46

    for an extra water I can only imagine

  • 44:48

    what a bed would be yeah yeah yeah yeah

  • 44:50

    yeah I'm not I'm do it save up your

  • 44:52

    points oh yeah you can do points you

  • 44:54

    should do you join do you have airline

  • 44:56

    miles

  • 44:57

    I don't think virgin flies to Africa you

  • 45:00

    don't think spirit I have points on

  • 45:03

    every Airline I have points on every

  • 45:05

    Airline I have points on every credit

  • 45:07

    card like I have I like points I feel

  • 45:09

    like women are way more responsible with

  • 45:11

    literally just about to say women are so

  • 45:12

    much better at do I only collect virgin

  • 45:14

    points I forget to do everybody else's

  • 45:16

    there was a joke somewhere waste I know

  • 45:18

    it is a waste but I waste mine wastey

  • 45:21

    that was last what do you think of

  • 45:25

    Ting mans don't Ting I want to ask some

  • 45:28

    of the adults they

  • 45:30

    think just being Jamaican what do you

  • 45:33

    think of Ting the man need

  • 45:36

    stop no you did a whole podcast already

  • 45:39

    about Drake we should talk about

  • 45:40

    something else no not really well not

  • 45:42

    really that never happened yet so I

  • 45:43

    don't know why you said that well no

  • 45:45

    this is going to happen after that'll be

  • 45:47

    out though Sorry she don't know that she

  • 45:49

    don't know [ __ ] he told me he was going

  • 45:51

    to so I thought it happened already

  • 45:54

    happen I know you have many Dr thoughts

  • 45:56

    I thought you did it already

  • 45:57

    no no no a lot of the things that I want

  • 45:59

    to discuss see because I'm on energy not

  • 46:01

    just in music but energy period I can't

  • 46:04

    speak to everybody about the stuff I

  • 46:06

    want to talk about that's just where I'm

  • 46:07

    on yeah on many topics yeah yeah [ __ ]

  • 46:11

    you an your [ __ ] [ __ ] well no we

  • 46:14

    didn't particularly talk about the mans

  • 46:16

    and the Tings and how he's progressed to

  • 46:18

    that we didn't speak on that lot we

  • 46:19

    didn't speak about Ting man or any of

  • 46:21

    that [ __ ] we just said it randomly I

  • 46:23

    just think it's weird that somebody

  • 46:24

    lightskin keep saying Ting in M I don't

  • 46:26

    I'm not that Canadian thing though

  • 46:28

    that's what they do that's [ __ ] I've

  • 46:30

    been in Toronto a million times I've

  • 46:32

    never heard Ting in man I heard Ting

  • 46:34

    well Toronto is full of West Indians yes

  • 46:37

    like full I know that I'm just saying

  • 46:39

    when I see you can get into Canada not

  • 46:42

    anymore that was pretty funny what you

  • 46:44

    can't go to Canada not now why what

  • 46:46

    happened something happened oh the thing

  • 46:48

    the thing man is the waste man the mans

  • 46:51

    can't go to the that

  • 46:53

    M it was that thing but it was anointing

  • 46:56

    I feel like they got a little bit more

  • 46:58

    strict at that border I was scared going

  • 47:01

    to the Border yeah they got a little bit

  • 47:03

    more strict heard you talking and got

  • 47:04

    you I don't know I don't know what

  • 47:06

    occurred but it's like a parking ticket

  • 47:09

    last time I went over there they told me

  • 47:11

    I have to go to fifth [ __ ] ticket

  • 47:14

    dead ass cuz they don't give you no

  • 47:16

    information you get to the border and

  • 47:18

    and just be [ __ ] they're not going to

  • 47:19

    sit there and explain to you some [ __ ]

  • 47:21

    you got to figure that [ __ ] out yourself

  • 47:23

    they told me to take my ass down there

  • 47:25

    to uh fifth a to the

  • 47:28

    consulate and have them sign off for

  • 47:31

    some [ __ ] and then go back I said

  • 47:33

    homeboy for this little bit of few th000

  • 47:36

    I'm not doing none of that I'm getting

  • 47:37

    the [ __ ] out of here but I will

  • 47:39

    eventually handle that cuz you do want

  • 47:40

    to be able to move around M M's got

  • 47:43

    before he enters the six if if um Trump

  • 47:46

    becomes president you might want to you

  • 47:47

    know I mean make that move free

  • 47:49

    healthcare I'm not paying that anyway

  • 47:52

    carry we should give Drake some credit

  • 47:54

    for making a city so popular outside the

  • 47:56

    United States that guy gets elected at

  • 47:58

    least we have a popping City to go to

  • 47:59

    now popping what did you think fast we

  • 48:02

    up in there I'm going to that [ __ ]

  • 48:05

    [Laughter]

  • 48:07

    that what did you think about Obama

  • 48:11

    out mic dropping I'm into it I was into

  • 48:14

    it you had to be into it yeah I'm

  • 48:15

    assuming you would have to be into it

  • 48:17

    why what was wrong with it nothing was

  • 48:18

    wrong with it in the world oh no it was

  • 48:20

    totally I'm into everything that he I

  • 48:22

    think he's I'm like I'm like a stand and

  • 48:24

    a groupy and yeah I am I'm obs with him

  • 48:27

    for many reasons first of all I have

  • 48:29

    been you know I've been to the White

  • 48:31

    House twice this year in a real way like

  • 48:33

    introduced him at the Criminal Justice

  • 48:34

    Reform on the Criminal Justice Reform

  • 48:36

    panel then I went back for a panel on

  • 48:38

    women in Hip Hop then actually I've been

  • 48:40

    three times then I went back what was

  • 48:41

    this thing that I just went to uh I

  • 48:44

    don't even remember the brother

  • 48:45

    something that was dope I bet it was

  • 48:49

    amazing Black History Month event yeah

  • 48:51

    that's what it was look at you just on

  • 48:53

    point as you want to be so I went three

  • 48:55

    times to the White House this year and

  • 48:57

    I'm going to tell you to be in that

  • 48:59

    building it's like there are mad young

  • 49:02

    people of color in the building and not

  • 49:05

    just you know what I mean not just doing

  • 49:08

    the little jobs like oh this is such a

  • 49:10

    young you know young black girl whatever

  • 49:12

    she's the head of publicity for all of

  • 49:15

    the events in the White House like there

  • 49:17

    are mad young people of color in the

  • 49:19

    White House and that just I don't know

  • 49:21

    it's such a phenomenal amazing thing to

  • 49:23

    see to be inside to see that that energy

  • 49:25

    and the fact that and one of my first

  • 49:27

    trips one of the guys the Secret Service

  • 49:29

    guys was outside and you know I started

  • 49:30

    talking to people I start talking to guy

  • 49:32

    outside and he you told him to the

  • 49:34

    Secret Service talking to Secret Service

  • 49:35

    guy he tell me he's like a older dude

  • 49:37

    super old and he's telling me he's you

  • 49:39

    know getting ready to retire or whatever

  • 49:40

    this is my first trip there this was a

  • 49:42

    while back and he said the president

  • 49:44

    he's went this is his fourth president

  • 49:47

    it was Obama's first it was Obama's

  • 49:48

    first term first time I went to the

  • 49:50

    White House and he said Obama was the

  • 49:52

    first president ever stopped and spoke

  • 49:54

    to him said anything to him of the four

  • 49:56

    presidents that he had been in the white

  • 49:58

    house for yeah like just the energy it

  • 50:00

    feels I don't know I don't know that

  • 50:02

    says so much more than anyone will give

  • 50:03

    him credit for it says so much more and

  • 50:05

    and what a tough job man that he you

  • 50:07

    know what I'm saying what come on so I

  • 50:10

    just think he's a a great great I think

  • 50:12

    that whole family is a great U great

  • 50:14

    role model it's amazing that we saw that

  • 50:15

    in our lifetime and I think when he gets

  • 50:17

    out of the white house he's going to

  • 50:19

    be even more powerful I was just to say

  • 50:22

    I can't wait to see what he does when he

  • 50:24

    gets out I think so because who else

  • 50:26

    could move people like he can he could

  • 50:27

    he could he could you know he's an

  • 50:30

    organizer by Nature that's what he does

  • 50:32

    that's his career he was an organizer

  • 50:33

    for many years then became you know Bic

  • 50:35

    Senator what he deserves like 6 months

  • 50:38

    disappear and not do anything I think he

  • 50:41

    will I think it's what what it's like

  • 50:43

    like you know you that's what moves him

  • 50:44

    that's what do yes he's going he's not

  • 50:46

    going to sit down what you think he's

  • 50:47

    going to go sit in a rocking chair

  • 50:49

    somewhere I think he'll try his daughter

  • 50:51

    his daughters are

  • 50:52

    young I I think he might go away for a

  • 50:55

    little bit don't sleep on with his

  • 50:56

    daughters are going to turn into right

  • 50:58

    they seem like very bright girls I mean

  • 51:00

    that seen Michelle Obama is amazing so

  • 51:04

    they are amaz I am obsessed with them

  • 51:06

    yeah I know a lot of I know a lot of

  • 51:07

    people that are obsessed with them know

  • 51:09

    you know my grandfather I mean not my

  • 51:11

    grandfather my grandmother was obsessed

  • 51:12

    she was just happy I'm happy she got to

  • 51:13

    see that before she left people are

  • 51:15

    proud of him we you know we cheering we

  • 51:18

    championing yeah uh if he could run

  • 51:21

    again I wish you know but yeah but he

  • 51:24

    cannot did you see the trailer for the

  • 51:26

    uh

  • 51:27

    the mov the two of them you guys talk

  • 51:29

    like about everything huh yeah no we

  • 51:31

    just shoot the [ __ ] when I Tred to get

  • 51:33

    you out of here you understand will you

  • 51:35

    wrapping me up no it's a joke we joke

  • 51:38

    Angie on the show yeah we literally just

  • 51:40

    make fun each everything is a joke yeah

  • 51:42

    actually try to hold my sarcasm down

  • 51:44

    yeah cuz she yeah so funny cuz I'm

  • 51:47

    trying to hold mine down I wanted to

  • 51:48

    make like

  • 51:49

    fck you you on uh book talk and I'm

  • 51:53

    trying to joke and you being too mature

  • 51:55

    yeah I I didn't want you to look at me

  • 51:58

    sh [ __ ] out of here God damn it but so

  • 52:01

    let's be mature well you had all these

  • 52:03

    like questions and you they were

  • 52:05

    important questions and you were like

  • 52:07

    and you asked me like these deep real

  • 52:08

    questions I thought our conversation you

  • 52:10

    know I thought that's where we were

  • 52:11

    going what do you want me to do that's

  • 52:12

    why it's so hot in here cuz it's weird

  • 52:14

    we don't do that [ __ ] is this weird it

  • 52:16

    is Weir we're never this serious never

  • 52:18

    to be mature on this podcast ever why

  • 52:20

    are you so serious cuz it me well

  • 52:22

    because your book is important we didn't

  • 52:23

    need to talk about I I I even said that

  • 52:26

    before you came I said I really do want

  • 52:27

    to have real conversation because I

  • 52:28

    really do want to like get real

  • 52:31

    information from you because I care to

  • 52:32

    actually learn this stuff I'm talking

  • 52:34

    [ __ ] but I do believe that the book is

  • 52:36

    like not Ser I mean not all serious it's

  • 52:38

    like a lot of We've joked here though we

  • 52:40

    laughed while we're talking it's not

  • 52:41

    like we were I don't think many people

  • 52:44

    know like the type of funny an Anie is a

  • 52:48

    different sense of it's funny it's funny

  • 52:51

    it's really like di head funny like a

  • 52:54

    dick all the people I enjoy personally

  • 52:58

    she know my sister the people I [ __ ]

  • 53:01

    with away from the prestigious people y

  • 53:04

    they dicks I love it they have the

  • 53:05

    greatest hum in their [ __ ] un and

  • 53:07

    here she come with the book this is the

  • 53:09

    book is beautiful it's beautiful I love

  • 53:11

    it I'm going to read it

  • 53:13

    1ie marz jcole Kendrick all these in

  • 53:17

    Kendrick's not [ __ ] no you didn't see no

  • 53:21

    he just literally made you just lumped

  • 53:23

    them all together I came in on some

  • 53:24

    regular [ __ ] and then you stopped me and

  • 53:26

    said you had all these serious questions

  • 53:28

    don't put this on me Fam you did that

  • 53:30

    you made this you made this serious now

  • 53:34

    Mary J blig could you I just love that

  • 53:36

    woman yo I like the just the other day

  • 53:39

    my friend a just reminded me how long

  • 53:41

    ago Mary's first album came out and I

  • 53:43

    was sad it's a crazy town I was sad why

  • 53:47

    I don't need to be reminded of how old I

  • 53:49

    am and when I think of what the 411 mad

  • 53:52

    old bro what's the 411 is 91 damn I was

  • 53:56

    was like four son [ __ ] that album was

  • 53:59

    amaz you know that album though yeah I

  • 54:00

    mean no she don't no she don't no she

  • 54:02

    don't no she don't Rel no she doesn't

  • 54:04

    that's a lie you don't have to lie you

  • 54:06

    don't know you know hope do don't don't

  • 54:07

    disappoint me this way no I definitely

  • 54:09

    know the [ __ ] album you

  • 54:11

    [ __ ] name me five songs off that

  • 54:14

    album name five songs of any

  • 54:16

    album you know what we unless it's a

  • 54:19

    tie it's tie doll sign album I can give

  • 54:22

    you the [ __ ] clear before when you

  • 54:25

    when you started my show with without me

  • 54:27

    I was coming to dis Elliot Wilson for

  • 54:29

    the next 10 minutes just cuz it's fun

  • 54:31

    and I do it why cuz it's fun to it with

  • 54:34

    Elliot that what is it about Elliot that

  • 54:36

    bothers everybody let's get to it whoa

  • 54:38

    whoa whoa whoa whoa see don't do that

  • 54:40

    don't do that don't do that Elliot

  • 54:41

    bothers some other people why I don't

  • 54:43

    know cuz he retweets so much it's like

  • 54:45

    no I'm just kidding all right so then

  • 54:47

    don't follow him why does he bother you

  • 54:48

    if you can go at him for 10 minutes he

  • 54:50

    don't bother me or you just enjoy it

  • 54:52

    it's all it's all we said friend me

  • 54:54

    friendly competition it's fun the only I

  • 54:56

    don't like you just like to laugh shame

  • 54:57

    him is that what it are you one of those

  • 54:59

    people no I I like Elliot you you keep

  • 55:03

    making it super supportive of our

  • 55:05

    podcast too she keeps trying to make it

  • 55:07

    a thing oh a thing she's trying to make

  • 55:09

    it a thing a it's not a thing what up

  • 55:13

    [ __ ] you all right all right so I'm

  • 55:15

    getting out of here May 7 wa wait wa I

  • 55:17

    want to hear I want to hear Angie

  • 55:19

    sleeper song oh yeah she doesn't know

  • 55:21

    our sleep we do a sleeper song of the

  • 55:22

    week segment at the end of every podcast

  • 55:24

    oh what does that mean we pick a song

  • 55:27

    that we feel like maybe didn't get as

  • 55:28

    much love and it could be old it could

  • 55:30

    be new it could be whenever it's just

  • 55:31

    one of our personal more or less but you

  • 55:35

    know you should prepare people for

  • 55:36

    things like this cuz now well Joe was

  • 55:37

    the one on text prepare me as she called

  • 55:39

    me last night to say hey yeah that would

  • 55:42

    have been a good time for you to be hey

  • 55:43

    come up with a sleeper song I was I'm

  • 55:45

    not going to tell you what I was doing

  • 55:46

    but I

  • 55:47

    was there's too many sleeper songs where

  • 55:49

    does the Angie and Joe friendship start

  • 55:52

    that's an amazing question look at you

  • 55:55

    look at you two hours

  • 55:57

    later whoa you we're not two hours in

  • 56:00

    are we no we're not two hours later

  • 56:02

    where did stitial is so close where does

  • 56:04

    this start I mean that's so close and

  • 56:06

    don't give me the EUR a rapper and she

  • 56:08

    was on the radio answer no cuz I'm not

  • 56:10

    friends with it's not like he's friends

  • 56:13

    Withers doesn't go like that no way I

  • 56:16

    don't remember um I don't remember no we

  • 56:19

    worked together first I was going to say

  • 56:21

    did that start when he was at hot that's

  • 56:22

    how we kind of got to know each other

  • 56:25

    when you were at hot yeah I forgot about

  • 56:27

    that really it started then yeah that's

  • 56:28

    how I knew you oh that's when your I fig

  • 56:31

    it was before before that you weren't

  • 56:32

    really so then out the gate when you

  • 56:34

    work with somebody you have a certain

  • 56:36

    there's a certain you know and then so

  • 56:38

    we want to living in the same

  • 56:40

    neighborhood at a time we still kind of

  • 56:41

    do but like we were like really close

  • 56:43

    like a few buildings away Angie and I

  • 56:45

    quickly found out that we were more like

  • 56:47

    than we were uh different yeah cuz I

  • 56:49

    went to I probably was probably a

  • 56:50

    monopoly night or something that started

  • 56:52

    it or bowling yeah one of those yeah one

  • 56:55

    of those then we like to talk [ __ ] and

  • 56:57

    we you know what was your first

  • 56:59

    impression of young Joe he's an idiot

  • 57:02

    he's not an idiot you know that she he

  • 57:04

    knows that yeah probably was the one

  • 57:07

    that I question you looking at me for

  • 57:08

    the answer of a question I asked no I'd

  • 57:11

    be lying if I told you I had one or I

  • 57:12

    remembered I don't know I don't even

  • 57:15

    remember when we became friends hey when

  • 57:17

    you buy my book I do think you should

  • 57:20

    write a book I think that would be

  • 57:21

    really no I want to write a book cuz you

  • 57:22

    have a story to tell and I got a lot of

  • 57:24

    stories to tell but I definitely

  • 57:25

    definitely want

  • 57:26

    when we do the podcast for your book

  • 57:27

    it's going to be very serious I just

  • 57:30

    think the process the process I need

  • 57:33

    direction and guidance that's what I

  • 57:34

    need I can help you cuz I don't know how

  • 57:36

    people even go about that and the people

  • 57:38

    I've seen go about it I don't like how I

  • 57:40

    learned lessons you know what I did a

  • 57:41

    cookbook and I I learned some lessons

  • 57:43

    from the cookbook I'm glad I did that

  • 57:44

    cuz then when I cuz this was important

  • 57:46

    and so I I I could get it right it

  • 57:47

    taught you what not to do yeah and I

  • 57:49

    Lear even doing this I learned some

  • 57:50

    things so I hope you I'll give you some

  • 57:52

    I'll put you under the Joe would need

  • 57:53

    somebody that put you with good people

  • 57:55

    and brain in one Topic at one time

  • 57:58

    there's tricks there's tricks you know

  • 57:59

    get all the stories out and then you put

  • 58:01

    them in a certain order and then you you

  • 58:03

    know it's like ways you can I'll help

  • 58:04

    you and our are people to help

  • 58:07

    too no I'm saying people to help like

  • 58:09

    with the writing of the book and [ __ ]

  • 58:11

    like that you want to would really

  • 58:12

    really help if you had a shaving

  • 58:15

    product that may be called bevel wow

  • 58:18

    because if you look fresh you'll feel

  • 58:19

    fresh and it will reflect in your

  • 58:21

    writing if you're not ready to write the

  • 58:22

    book I shave get you a clean shave

  • 58:26

    might be can you tell me how you can go

  • 58:28

    about doing that I sometimes get

  • 58:29

    unwanted hair over my

  • 58:31

    eyebrows unwanted hair no they make me

  • 58:34

    they make me say I have a mustache and

  • 58:36

    they make me [ __ ] but don't

  • 58:40

    you I only say that I like I've heard

  • 58:43

    you say you have no I've never said that

  • 58:46

    you 100% have a must said

  • 58:52

    that see how that must see how Marissa's

  • 58:56

    mustache is G the first thing I noticed

  • 58:59

    when she walked in was what a clean

  • 59:01

    shave wait your mustache can be going

  • 59:04

    just like M's all you have to do is get

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    Bev go to get bevel.com that's G TB

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    v.com and your [ __ ] upper lip can

  • 59:17

    look just as smooth and Sensational as

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    might the bodies uh use a promo code Joe

  • 59:24

    and go there and take care of all your

  • 59:26

    shaving needs that's get bev.com G and

  • 59:29

    the promo code

  • 59:31

    is the promo code is these nuts no it's

  • 59:34

    not it's Joe go doar sorry sorry it is

  • 59:37

    Joe Frey I want to get

  • 59:39

    paid so that was great sleeper songs

  • 59:41

    everyone everyone everyone everyone

  • 59:43

    sleeper song You TI just put out a new

  • 59:45

    ad Li I don't know a new ad lip TI just

  • 59:49

    breathed that is the one that's what I

  • 59:51

    pick I don't have a sleeper song I don't

  • 59:54

    either I'm so unprepared I feel so wack

  • 59:56

    back what did you do we just did back to

  • 59:58

    back podcast so I thought you said back

  • 1:00:00

    to back I'm like back to

  • 1:00:02

    back I don't know if you guys have heard

  • 1:00:03

    this Drake

  • 1:00:04

    song heard a guy Nam let me put you on

  • 1:00:07

    let me put you on at this big sleeper

  • 1:00:10

    hotline bling if you love you'll love

  • 1:00:13

    back to

  • 1:00:14

    back what's your sleepest song maybe

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    I'll Be Inspired on think of something

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    good oh man um I'm going to pick another

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    T out I should just go in my phone cuz

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    all the songs in my phone are probably

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    sleepers I don't even know oh she's

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    using Pi one of your old songs or will

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    you kill me I will kill you please I

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    can't God wait you can't what on I can't

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    pick one of her old songs just it's

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    between her

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    and oh I know what I'll do what are you

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    doing what are you picking I know what

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    I'll do this may not be a sleeper song

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    you guys but it'll be to some of our

  • 1:00:41

    audience can I oh so I have time so we

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    got to play the song and then I pick it

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    mine's gonna be ratchety and just

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    extra try to this week for this one I

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    was unprepared too I only prepared Mike

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    for the last one and then I didn't have

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    this

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    [Music]

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    N I want to [ __ ] up your fade away let

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    me know when it's good that feels good

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    even though Angie call me a sap for that

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    [ __ ] but it's fine I mean it's sa s

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    that's cuz Angie just loves everything

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    this is the opposite any R&B did Jeezy

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    make R&B

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    album I got like seven chezy

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    sleepers Jey sleepers Chey

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    sleepers so I used him as a sleeper song

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    a few weeks back as a kid named nef the

  • 1:01:23

    faroh he's 21-year-old rapper from the

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    bay and this is a song about well we're

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    NE the I like the

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    B [ __ ] I like the B why are we listening

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    to nef the phoh about getting head

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    great oh my God I don't think I like the

  • 1:01:43

    last NE the phoh song either though yes

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    you did it was good which one she's done

  • 1:01:47

    [ __ ] seven in AOW this is only the

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    second NE the phoh song

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    [ __ ] I have no song I'm feeling

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    anxiety right

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    [Music]

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    now I want to fade it out like Roy does

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    does anyone know Kent Jones don't mind

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    yes didn't we play that by the way I no

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    no I'm I no one none of my friends told

  • 1:02:12

    me how great that record was I know it's

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    not I know no I wasn't suggesting who

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    was a sleeper who was a sleeper to me

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    like you were suggesting it though no no

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    no I was surprised that I filling the

  • 1:02:22

    water to see if we would agree and then

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    just I heard that M parties I could it

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    be a sleeper so I heard it I heard it in

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    the club I don't believe all right uh

  • 1:02:29

    are we doing ladies first no because I I

  • 1:02:31

    don't Ladi I'm looking at my phone I got

  • 1:02:33

    mad all right so you take your time this

  • 1:02:35

    is too much I'm looking at my phone

  • 1:02:38

    let's see do I want to go Johnny G on

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    these hoes you I mean Johnny Gil yeah

  • 1:02:43

    see I speak is that an option you know

  • 1:02:45

    that bet is doing a um um just that fast

  • 1:02:49

    I got my song the movie Yes new addition

  • 1:02:52

    movie new addition film and the cast is

  • 1:02:54

    pretty good and I they brashier Gray

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    from Empire and I'm not rolling I got to

  • 1:02:59

    see the cast Luke James it's a good cast

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    who Luke James playing it's a good cast

  • 1:03:04

    I don't know who's playing who it's

  • 1:03:05

    going to be good yeah a little inside

  • 1:03:07

    privy but it's not just about the cast

  • 1:03:08

    with that type of stuff how much of the

  • 1:03:10

    story are they allowed to say Well

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    they're having the kid version and the

  • 1:03:13

    adult version Who's involved who's

  • 1:03:15

    helping to tell the story I'm directing

  • 1:03:16

    it anyway I have my song where is the

  • 1:03:18

    Beyonce sorry no no no your but do it

  • 1:03:20

    for the old folks baby oh where's the

  • 1:03:22

    allore and I do it for the young ratchet

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    thanks Marissa what do you want am I

  • 1:03:26

    supposed to go old or new does it matter

  • 1:03:27

    it doesn't matter but you do whatever

  • 1:03:28

    you want cuz I Have Nothing Whitney oh

  • 1:03:31

    that's a great song I that's not a

  • 1:03:34

    sleeper though no no these ain't really

  • 1:03:36

    we got young whipper snappers listen

  • 1:03:38

    don't have to be a sleeper all right you

  • 1:03:39

    know what I'm going to do I'm going to

  • 1:03:40

    go to my like most play cuz somebody

  • 1:03:42

    that's what I did my my number one most

  • 1:03:44

    played song which was a tial that was

  • 1:03:46

    your oh the pher one was your number one

  • 1:03:48

    played song Jesus Christ I know why I

  • 1:03:50

    came was my number go with your song

  • 1:03:52

    don't don't wait for me oh okay all

  • 1:03:54

    right I am going with with someone how

  • 1:03:57

    do you find it from the royal family go

  • 1:04:00

    to playlist Kardashians no the original

  • 1:04:04

    royal family you guessed it one of the

  • 1:04:07

    only Jacksons would a hit that's not

  • 1:04:10

    Janet and

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    Michael to got hit I don't know either

  • 1:04:15

    way we do it the grown folks real quick

  • 1:04:17

    hold on let me turn good music on in my

  • 1:04:19

    own call on oh yeah

  • 1:04:22

    baby what radio station we on WJ

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    jbmc 101.9 each and every Tuesday night

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    new Jermaine Jackson coming up we're

  • 1:04:30

    going to go somewhere pay some bills

  • 1:04:31

    real quick don't go anywhere oh my look

  • 1:04:33

    at Jermaine look at Jamaine though sexy

  • 1:04:35

    Jamaine looks no one ever oh the song's

  • 1:04:38

    hard though quiet quiet

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    [Music]

  • 1:04:44

    hey oh yeah baby somebody should rap to

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    this

  • 1:04:47

    beat do it it's enjoyable it's a great

  • 1:04:51

    song Maybe whiz could do it he does

  • 1:04:54

    weird smoker [ __ ] we going to let the

  • 1:04:56

    Bridge Run and then once we get to the

  • 1:04:58

    hook we get out of here but don't ever

  • 1:05:00

    cut off the god Jermaine talk to him uh

  • 1:05:02

    Jermaine what do you do you plug in your

  • 1:05:05

    phone yes

  • 1:05:09

    an you got a nice little setup in

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    here in my house oh not in my house I

  • 1:05:15

    really told you I swear to God I told

  • 1:05:17

    you in the crib even when I sent you the

  • 1:05:19

    address in the city no

  • 1:05:22

    okay I've had enough of J I'm not into

  • 1:05:25

    it

  • 1:05:26

    shut up an you don't even have a song

  • 1:05:27

    but you're not into somebody's song uh

  • 1:05:29

    this is a very old song but this pisses

  • 1:05:31

    me off cuz I just did one of these title

  • 1:05:33

    playlist and I gave them like my

  • 1:05:34

    favorite '90s collabo songs and then

  • 1:05:36

    when I gave them the list this was

  • 1:05:39

    missing I was like yo but that's like my

  • 1:05:42

    favorite one on the that's my favorite

  • 1:05:44

    '90s rap collabo and then I kept saying

  • 1:05:47

    and then no and there were people that

  • 1:05:49

    didn't know what I was talking about and

  • 1:05:50

    it broke my heart hold on oh Joey you

  • 1:05:54

    know this song

  • 1:05:56

    hey this is going to be if I respect you

  • 1:05:58

    or not oh my God I'm going to go a

  • 1:06:00

    chance you might respect her how you

  • 1:06:03

    get

  • 1:06:06

    hey come on hold up not everybody knows

  • 1:06:10

    this

  • 1:06:13

    [Music]

  • 1:06:18

    song7 know song

  • 1:06:20

    [Music]

  • 1:06:26

    you don't know that song right how old

  • 1:06:28

    are you

  • 1:06:29

    [Music]

  • 1:06:31

    222 this is what I'm

  • 1:06:33

    saying you don't this song came out

  • 1:06:37

    when [ __ ] done started something came

  • 1:06:39

    out in

  • 1:06:40

    1990 this should have been a single to

  • 1:06:42

    me this should have been a single 97

  • 1:06:44

    right this is one of my favorite

  • 1:06:45

    collabos '90s collabos oh hold on but

  • 1:06:48

    could you don't go in not when you I was

  • 1:06:51

    going to do the whole DMX verse for you

  • 1:06:53

    cuz I know it by heart okay

  • 1:06:56

    y that would be epic can you wrap it for

  • 1:06:58

    us I do the whole song please I could do

  • 1:07:00

    the whole song and I could do the whole

  • 1:07:01

    Beach stream movie yo I ain't going to

  • 1:07:02

    lie to you my I'm talking about the

  • 1:07:03

    whole Beach Street movie this might be

  • 1:07:05

    one of the worst phone

  • 1:07:07

    cases this don't dis like a gas station

  • 1:07:10

    gas

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    station except I don't take a lot of

  • 1:07:16

    selfies so I usually use it for I can't

  • 1:07:17

    see [ __ ] so I use the light to put on yo

  • 1:07:20

    this girl is making a lot I see a lot of

  • 1:07:22

    people with this yeah it's Tai uh he's

  • 1:07:24

    like Beyonce stylist my friend Amber is

  • 1:07:26

    a no Amber is like one of the investors

  • 1:07:28

    she's a friend of mine so she's yeah

  • 1:07:30

    that's a great idea though pretty good

  • 1:07:32

    right it tastes a really good selfie but

  • 1:07:34

    it doesn't hey Ty you Len to our podcast

  • 1:07:37

    it doesn't like let you plug the things

  • 1:07:38

    in probably that's why you couldn't hear

  • 1:07:40

    my song you didn't hear the didn't even

  • 1:07:42

    hear the prop say we got to go out with

  • 1:07:43

    my song Hold up this this is such a

  • 1:07:44

    great is my favorite gym song speaking

  • 1:07:47

    of Tings Dr how's it going down

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    May 17 May 17th my voice pre-order

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    available now but wait you know

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    what with Kobe retiring 20

  • 1:08:04

    years kiss so many

  • 1:08:09

    people they all know each other I was

  • 1:08:12

    just talking about that with somebody I

  • 1:08:13

    don't

  • 1:08:14

    know the difference between me and

  • 1:08:16

    common is all common friends made

  • 1:08:19

    [Music]

  • 1:08:21

    it I know y too scared to laugh you

  • 1:08:26

    what did you

  • 1:08:27

    [Music]

  • 1:08:29

    do come on it's so good

  • 1:08:35

    that's one of my

  • 1:08:37

    faor sty on my new project is he RA in

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    the machine hey hey we're not promoting

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    yet it's not time not time for

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    the he's so good good

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    people one of my favorite people in the

  • 1:08:50

    rap game we don't normally let the song

  • 1:08:52

    rock this long but we have to

  • 1:08:55

    yeah I got to hear you rap DMX's version

  • 1:08:57

    no you're not going to rap DMX's part

  • 1:09:00

    I'll do it okay we'll do it together we

  • 1:09:03

    do

  • 1:09:04

    it that's good part

  • 1:09:07

    two we should think of a cool bet for

  • 1:09:09

    you cuz you be knowing the worst of

  • 1:09:11

    these songs on the low do you know DMX's

  • 1:09:12

    ver I know the hook I don't know bets

  • 1:09:15

    off

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    off that would have been real cool you

  • 1:09:19

    might know it it might come to you

  • 1:09:21

    Muscle

  • 1:09:22

    memoryc Milk you though

  • 1:09:29

    you don't know that

  • 1:09:30

    [Music]

  • 1:09:32

    part yeah come on come

  • 1:09:34

    on [ __ ] like a [ __ ] come

  • 1:09:38

    on oh I didn't know we started it's

  • 1:09:40

    already started

  • 1:09:42

    you it's been a while for me too my

  • 1:09:44

    memory's bad get it we ruined

  • 1:09:47

    it that how many years ago was that did

  • 1:09:51

    you get you didn't get to the part with

  • 1:09:52

    the chainsaw no that was like 9 that was

  • 1:09:54

    like 98 no it wasn't yeah no it was7

  • 1:09:58

    what you came for it was I remember

  • 1:10:00

    chainsaw I'm not arguing with you I was

  • 1:10:02

    still

  • 1:10:03

    [Music]

  • 1:10:09

    ele for coming and

  • 1:10:12

    let or Blended 24

  • 1:10:17

    hours it's too late

  • 1:10:20

    my hour might be able to W and we love

  • 1:10:25

    you hopefully I will see you or we will

  • 1:10:26

    see you soon cuz I want to read this

  • 1:10:29

    book I want to come after I want you to

  • 1:10:32

    come after after you read it yeah

  • 1:10:34

    absolutely yeah will you all read it are

  • 1:10:36

    you going to all read it we're not going

  • 1:10:37

    to all read it together you should do

  • 1:10:40

    like a book club oh my

  • 1:10:42

    God I'll name I'll name this book club

  • 1:10:44

    later oh man no yes yo I love

  • 1:10:48

    that thank you guys thank you I'm going

  • 1:10:51

    to bye guys bye guys bye Joe

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    this

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    e

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    e for