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Episode 71

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Joe Budden Podcast Episode 71, “71,” released July 1, 2016. Joe Budden and his dear friends Marisa Mendez & Rory sit down every week to discuss life, music, sex, and more. Tune in and follow along the crazy adventures of these three very random friends. Full transcript and searchable timestamps below.

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    microphone check one two one two microphone check one two one two all right our name is podcast later episode

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    number 72 right 72 is it something like that we don't let them [ __ ] cure huh I've been sitting down no I know I want

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    to talk without you okay this is great I'm sitting here I walk in first of all let's address a few things I don't know

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    why every [ __ ] piss I take now is like an emergency maybe you have a UTI

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    no I'm honestly a little worried about that Metapod that is I pronounce it minnow

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    what shut the [ __ ] whatever old women go through all right shave me check my [ __ ] I so horrible here oh there we go there yeah

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    I didn't check much ado what Oh fourth of July weekend lot of traffic

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    but I'm here shocker I'm here with this is a late early episode this is a late early edition

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    episode I didn't want to go I didn't want to go in the fourth of July weekend uh without having done a podcast because

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    I feel like so many things have taken place number one number two I've been

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    waiting for today for such a long time oh my god if I tell you people if I tell y'all how

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    long I've waited for today y'all are gonna think I'm crazy but we don't think you're crazy by the way today yeah

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    finally Marissa's not here now let me now say

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    that you did throw me off on that one yeah last let's go somewhere else less well I was gonna call you crazy exactly

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    oh you've been calling agree listen last time Marissa wasn't here this podcast was horrible no no there's a what we've

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    had horrible ones the last one we did was good I missed her when she wasn't here laughter oh well money's a huge

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    bonus podcast I'll never know say I know I keep trying to get rid of her and every time she's gone I guess her

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    influences no it was a good pot it was just very misogynistic that's all but we have to try to not be misogynistic

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    number one let's we'll just talk about basketball rap well actually that was

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    the other thing I wanted to touch on because now all right Rory has to be Zane Lowe today Rory has to interview me

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    because we put this diss song out and the only reason up and it's not a diss it's therapy well don't I'm gonna be

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    Zane Lowe without the dick writing but wait with note my god you're the most amazing artist

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    ever do this do Zelo absolutely we're in a kissing booth oh my god everything you

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    do I want it is amazing I want to talk a beauty Awards I wanted time to I want to

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    talk Jesse Williams the Beatty Awards were amazing by the way I want to know it's unpopular you saying that cause

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    you're white yeah white people guys voted for Barack Obama y'all had black friends no no no the

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    beauty Awards they were they would those are the best Beauty Awards I can remember seeing in a long time likewise

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    um and I watched the the taping I didn't I didn't see it when it aired live with

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    everybody else I watched the taping um afterward it was I was blown I was moved

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    I was moved I was moved by everything the Prince tribute Prince tributes of great Jesse Williams aloud killed the

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    Prince tribute his Devils did one of the greatest speeches I heard Bulow killed it um we'll get into Justin I want to

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    talk NBA free agency really that's why I'm really mad that you have to be Zen long we have to do this this [ __ ] all I

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    want to talk Nick so bad let's talk about it but we talked about now yes

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    when you get out the way get out the way all right the function of the tone that if we want to just get it out the way

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    I'm a Knick fan so I don't want to talk about and online as I'm saying so I may have a vested interest in this all right

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    so let's talk about to diss up this is my podcast it is your podcast but Rory's

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    gonna a mic this one because I don't think it's fear for me to be able to

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    I've been in Atlanta for a whole week so you and I have not been in contact as much as we usually are so high Corey's

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    going up a closet I come back okay oh no I'm just not attaching myself to anything you've done in the past go

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    smart much more smart smart none of my friends should so I come back to the

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    timeline burning before we even get in the district all the blogs are saying

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    meek puts out this Instagram photo with the caption and if Maddie was here she would read it because I'm not gonna

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    rewrite so let me fine I'm gonna fine all of this stuff I don't know how to find Meeks [ __ ] oh I'm good he

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    probably blocked that's why no I thought we follow each other a lot to keep I love me where's the [ __ ] well you ought

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    to I don't know if it well that's the point now I love me some music I mean I like that energy ma'am I've been saying

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    everything that somebody want to hear from me I've said here I said here I've said that find the caption list oh no no

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    I don't want to go through all of meek speak all right wait me put up something about a petty guy you know run upon

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    somebody this and that whatever something that might fact-checking at all something that did not sound to me

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    like a job on dis baby or a sub or anything that is Joe Budden it could've

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    been so but I don't think it was I don't care well it was a very open-ended sub and anyone that raps like me craps you

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    could make anything he says an open-ended so yeah but the time because he kills people and timing and by I mean

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    figuratively speaking who a murders someone in every single rhyme who else has said something about about meek

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    though nobody well the whole world actually no no no no I don't think so

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    there was that whole little Drake thing that was a long time ago the timing of the meek [ __ ] the timing of it okay but

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    I don't think he wants to meet it no no but listen cuz I'm not giving my answer so I don't think I don't think that was

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    to me and even if it was I don't care I'm not dissing me well he then replied I'm not dissing that crackhead sure mad

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    [ __ ] mmm got it whoa no there was a part where he suggested that you had the

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    blogs saying that he was doing that no no blogs are just stupid okay so you did

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    not have the blogs no blogs you're stupid so there was no hand listen to dis today these [ __ ] call an issue the

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    Tauri there's a Drake uh-uh hold this well what did you when you retweeted it with God is good to blog saying that

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    meek was dissing you what on earth did that mean it meant if a disk comes out

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    great well no he was clearly stating that he was not dissing you no no I

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    didn't retweet that that came out oh you were going okay so let's what happened was when the blogs picked up that story

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    i retweeted the blog okay yeah no no no my agenda has never been me ever ever so

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    you won't open you want a tissue now with the goddess good come with me this is me at all

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    I think he's not because your crackit but yeah well I think about people have

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    to stop saying that crickets well I was willing from what does what does he in

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    his bad still what's the deal hypnosis Charlemagne show that cares and all my friends are on uh uncommon sense they

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    said uh boy your friends over they said uh hip-hop's favorite crackhead Joe

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    Budden and that really offended me you wonder why that really offended me because DMS I'm not yeah I know I know

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    what I'm not raps favorite crackit you are not raps favorite cricket yeah it was hyper Evo uh Rose conflictive Rory

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    has to do an interview right right now I guess you're in a tough spot kid I am sorry so let me help you out your Marisa

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    is now here let me be perfectly clear we've wasted enough time its fourth of July weekend we have to give the backstory everything that's

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    your job I'm as you interrupted I'm here to talk to the people that are familiar with the backstory and I'm here to talk

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    to the people that are gonna listen to this to hear what I have to say of course because in this new realm that

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    I'm in this is the only place I talk yeah oh wait before you talk quick I have to put let me put a few things out

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    there I don't want any attention I don't want any attention jumping the gun

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    I don't wanna be famous I'm just talking you can ask whatever you want after I put oh I jump the gun

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    I don't want attention I don't read very much but one rap that's right I'm in rap movement now my rap mo I wasn't rap

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    mol/s you that was rap well you would think one could assume that you are fishing for attention here why well yeah

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    definitely definitely definitely that's one others if it came out 100 percent 100 percent well a everybody that thinks joe budden

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    is fishing for attention I understand everyone that says Joe Budden is wack I

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    understand everyone that says Joe Budden is irrelevant I'm not irrelevant if you keep talking

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    about me I just want to tell people that because that works me like do people know what irrelevant means so they're

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    saying you're irrelevant in the music world they're not talking specifically about your music up until today then

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    we're talking about your actions most of the time people been talking about the podcast let's let's keep the buck the podcast it has not been

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    about your music well so I agree one could say you are irrelevant in the museum popular music works right I mean

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    I'm feeling your up feel you got it points you guys little no bad I don't have no bad were my three got no bad

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    alright so cool alright yeah one which data all right we got what you said and I quote is really I won't believe it's

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    me without the forensic facts so why continue to do a six-minute diss track

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    about something that you're saying I don't even think this [ __ ] is about me mmm cuz I felt like you just felt like

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    doing it no report then of course I didn't feel like of course listen the longer I talk I don't want to talk I

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    don't want to talk too much because every time I talk when we're not people aren't looking at this we're not looking

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    at the same things so I'm talking about the only person that's being very blunt

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    and straightforward and to the point and I'm probably the only musician let me

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    work this correctly I'm probably the only [ __ ] that has documented this

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    this far okay but then it's probably only because it's a pocket that's the point of you being blunt people are

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    confused on what you're being blunt about because they don't then I'm information why are you doing this so

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    the major ink has not been blunt we don't know what he was talking all right so let's talk about it the making of a murderer let's let's paint a timeline

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    let's be very clear weeks ago weeks ago seven eight weeks ago we talked about it right here

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    Instagram clip went up Drake's that pump pump pump it up right I remember on my

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    birthday as soon as we heard that clip or soon as I heard that clip I ran

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    straight to the studio hmm right without knowing what was coming I ran straight

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    to the studio to be prepared be clear people that are unaware of my history

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    I'm always the guy to hit first you don't ever have to worry about if I'm

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    talking to somebody I'm gonna tell you when I'm talking to somebody so we went I went straight to the [ __ ] studio

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    and I spent the night I packed the back stayed there with stank you stay there one of the nights everybody know we can

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    everybody was frantic we made with it was a lot going on yeah

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    and none came up I remember I was gone disappointed but when we were in that

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    studio and I know I'm supposed to be objective here but I will give inside information well that's what we were

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    waiting for that record to drop and then we were going to shoot that's not going

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    on right nope I'm too prepared now y'all waited too long y'all waited entirely too long now

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    I'm charged up yeah but you have a reaction without an action yeah that's called being proactive

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    I'm not quite sure that's prepared [ __ ] why don't because there's no reason to

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    be prepared if nothing happen she are you dog again all right so

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    here's what ways right can do here then that write that verse he can change that's the point Rory and I don't never

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    come out battle your preparation doesn't matter no no no that's not true that's not true

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    I want him to hear what I'm saying I want him to hear what I am saying

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    because when my entire team sat down and everybody tried to talk me out of it

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    mm-hmm all I said was okay well mind you I've been dissed already in my head I don't

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    even allow that [ __ ] I'm kind of offended that he even thought he could say pump pump pump pump

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    it up I am honestly the emcee and me is offended at that because I don't play

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    prevent defense well I attack people have no one has ever looked at me like the rapper - -

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    just [ __ ] poke at ever so you take the biggest rapper in the world add that

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    wit we know each other add that we're probably a little like-minded you add that with some history I could see it exhibit whether it was

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    there other information outside of this vine oh yes yes okay okay see we don't have to do this day in low

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    [ __ ] I don't like this you were there let's just say let's just say what happened I'm being objective I'm speaking for Twitter okay well Twitter

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    hates me says I'm Fanning I going out rap and Dre who Drake don't know track we that's important

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    no wait don't forget Joe lime oh yeah shut the final irrelevant listen we don't we don't have to do that we we

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    those are the we're not accounting for those people see that's why I need to stop you because you did a 6-minute

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    Drake record who did you think would be the audience you would be speaking to Oh

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    what would be Drake's audience [ __ ] your fans no fans always gonna be there your fans are obsessed with you a [ __ ]

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    cult following wrong these people worship no fart on that record they say you killed Rick what you're speaking

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    right Rory Rory Rory Drake is a pop star we don't have to waste time when the trick is a pop star I'm aware

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    disinterring I'm talking about the pop star [ __ ] I'm damn not a rap star not a

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    star in no way at all I just rap better than [ __ ] that's it so this diss was not catering to anybody

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    at all no this was catering to the [ __ ] that want to hear rap all of the dishes right now are passive aggressive

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    all of them at all of them charged up well let's not go that far back 4:00

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    p.m. in Calabasas was very passive-aggressive of course I think that Jay has been - let me tell you all that I think is going on so people call

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    me crazy some more I think that meek is about to fire at who everybody right

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    except for you maybe - maybe maybe I don't know I followed you I think that hole is still firing at people he's

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    beaten Drake to [ __ ] up with perspective projective perspective I love that

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    calibrate her spective dog I got the keys so far I like it to look out for

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    anyone that says I should no listen listen this is what I realize about people who talk negative about JC they're just kids

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    yeah it's just kids that's perfect I felt like I felt like I got I know we're gonna have a little tangent here but I

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    really felt like I got the keys like brought households together I feel like fathers and sons could enjoy that record

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    together I was I was nervous because when you see hope in future you get nervous

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    especially tariffs on that last album you know we talked about and there were rumblings of of whole having a future

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    flow I didn't want anything like that and this record was great great great

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    great great great great mmm I enjoyed it I and it was classic hope it was

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    perspective was subliminal it was dissing I'm enjoying watching all this [ __ ] that's going on right now so let's get to you

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    did you take shots at Jay in this fur no no no no no no no that was not a shot what was not a shot

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    those are my sunglass bow no trust me I do see I wasn't trying to you broken a

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    lot of [ __ ] in here and I don't want you breaking my sunglasses wait Rory that's the part you missing this is a glorious day I'm in a

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    great mood what does that have you're breakin my sunglass we're not banging on anything uh there were some home jabs no

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    one no one understand that people aren't familiar with lyrics but if we read them

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    you can go to rap genius and read it's a lot to digest mm-hmm they're there

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    though there's no old ray jazz we don't talk about hope until the second verse right the second version see the sticks

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    upside down and once once with your bare the god Center I'm too real bet your stars tender but in the middle

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    I bet just are tender but said all right we don't care about that all right right DeLong right I'm just trying to set you up to it I wrote got a punch you in bro

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    I wrote it I wrote that all right let's see what's the next [ __ ] line I tried to tell you I'm sorry see how that

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    worked uh but since the oh ji-ho uh here's what I want to know uh this is

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    the only only one no phantom real out [ __ ] we don't want to go oh what's a little bit of a jab that was from the

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    all the way up remix no it's more perspective how so what do you mean how

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    so that just I'm asking a question that from perspective yes elaborate what around that fear for

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    idiot Twitter you chill deal with them look I'm not la I'm not explaining [ __ ] about that like if you haven't been

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    keeping up you keep up not elaborating on on what dance with me I don't want to dance with you I'm deck four okay this

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    is what go on I don't I don't want to do in the night let's just say what happened we was there but this is out Drake was putting a dis out I don't know

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    what happened over there I can't account for what happened I don't know this is what I know and it was weird

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    Drake was dissing me in puff or addressing that's a fact I don't care

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    about the people that don't know what they don't know I don't care I did my due diligence there was a record floating people heard the record we know

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    what was said on that record he might take it off in the event that he takes it off then I never get to any of my 90

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    iliyan Drake this is my demonstration no no we've been cryptically speaking to one

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    another in cold I don't care about that passive-aggressive [ __ ] he doing I'm not that way I am direct and for me when you let

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    somebody else put the disc out first right when you are reactionary this is the hip

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    this is hip-hop when you're reactionary for me it's the equivalent of you having a beef in a club and you letting that

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    person leave that club first that person who's going to get his gun maybe you go

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    find a new way out that club it's the same exact thing to me I didn't like that feeling I didn't like I didn't like

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    the biggest rapper in the world selling a million records in a week who I know

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    getting on that clip with somebody else I know and saying pump it up but popular

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    you need to know what you was doing you maybe thought that record was coming soon I don't believe y'all tweeted that had a blast was laughing keikain in the

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    video I don't believe all that happened and then [ __ ] eight weeks later we still have no record so I don't know if

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    what the drink puff thing is there but I said a long time ago is a little odd to

  • 18:51

    me it's Beckel ative that Drake is dissing puff and Drake is on a record with

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    French I always found that kind of weird but they shot a video for it so we know it's coming we just don't know if that

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    line is there anymore because let me tell people who I am I am all for

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    getting dissed I think people don't know that about me I love this is especially when I'm

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    asking for it so wait we're using yeah

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    well no I mean back to the Twitter [ __ ] and who I'm speaking for here no it's more me speaking that it's 2016

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    and it's not the same I'm so you have to cater a bit no no that no I don't know I

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    don't know I don't and somebody saying that would mean that they're in Lu and aware of what that they're aware of what

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    my objective is okay right ooh am I wrong in that no you're not wrong which is why I very in the very

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    beginning I said I don't want to be famous I don't want to make a bunch of hits I don't want to be on the radio

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    24/7 that's not who I am that that nothing everything that's

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    happening is so funny everything that's happening is who I've been the whole [ __ ] my whole career it's just not my

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    fault people don't know about my career it's not my fault we want me to do I'm here 15 years later irrelevant

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    rapping at a high level that's all I know that's it that's it

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    so don't be mad at me everything that's happening today I've accounted for because my brain goes deep deep deep

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    deep anybody who knows me can attest to that so all the everything that's happening right this second Joe bun is wack Joe Budden's created beef Joe

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    Budden is thirsty those we know we know we know well I know I know I know I know

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    that when I'm not pop when I'm podcasting everybody want to rap when I'm podcasting everybody has something

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    to say right they always go to very unoriginal up content lines that I've

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    heard my entire life my thick skin is kind of immune to it so I don't care like how many Pump It Up jokes can you

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    make and think it will affect me we don't care about any of that okay are

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    you okay my throat post so rappers need to rap that's it rappers need to rap because once I step

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    away from this podcast or while I'm on the podcast I'm a rapper still and I rap

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    better than a lot of people even if people don't acknowledge it that is an

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    amazing display of lyricist I am so happy I feel so good you know what I

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    celebrate well I agree and that is correct what happens when none of these people rap back oh good then then what

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    happens and I smile Rory then I smile I'm not doing this to appease anybody but me me

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    I want a rap I want a rap other people's actions don't dictate when I rap and I

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    never been a fan of prevent defense I'm charged up I made a decision last night

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    that I would die for it let's get it I'm

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    gonna celebrate because while everybody is talking about Drake and I this is the

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    important part of today in me doing exactly what I did

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    no one could tell me not to do it what even I was not affecting anyone else's

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    well-being I didn't I didn't have a lesion I didn't have to consider anybody

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    I didn't have to think slaughterhouse I didn't have to think em partner I didn't

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    have to think Interscope I didn't have to think late I didn't have to think any of that no why why because my objective

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    and my goals are not in line with any of that [ __ ] yeah but but one could say

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    here that this feeds your family no rapping and with this perspective of the

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    Twitter click on the dollar and a movie but you end up well I mean Rory Twitter

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    crab that you speak of has hated me since they were able to leave their homes because some people made it cool

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    to do that in my entire career I've never cared about those people but I go

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    end your career as you can see can happen online I'm just bringing ya in

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    life you can't end my career on line you can't end my career on line is I'm in

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    some ways I'm I would reply no even if they replied if anybody there's not nothing anyone can do to end my career

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    because I've positioned myself to be in a place where you cannot do that how so

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    um I don't like this interview [ __ ] this is it I don't I would walk out if this was somebody else not cuz of you but I

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    just don't have time to answer all the [ __ ] I don't care I don't care who understands I don't care who don't the people that do great the people that

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    don't if you like it you like it if you don't you don't I'm here to rap I'm here to rap don't

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    passive-aggressive diss me don't put a little clip out don't plan you're not

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    half the MC I am see I have to bring it here to where I am I can't try to play

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    with him that Nick is great I think is amazing what the [ __ ] you think I'm [ __ ] what wait for that [ __ ]

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    to put out some [ __ ] clubs on you have by the way for that negative plug some [ __ ] club song and have

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    every [ __ ] in the world that don't care about [ __ ] singing along no I want to stay hip-hop

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    cuz I'm hip I don't take me to pop pop world yeah I love I love your music to

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    rap and pop but don't take me to pop won't care about your pop fans I care

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    about the people to care about rap so let's get into the mind because that that's the important part to me they

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    never put that out they never put that out and then all of this [ __ ] started happening and now today see because this

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    is what's important to me I don't know if I believe this but we're seeing and amidst all this of this [ __ ] the

  • 24:59

    rumors of Apple purchasing do we believe that I mean it's a rumor I got I mean

  • 25:05

    title from what I've seen has been struggling a bit so it may be a good we

  • 25:11

    just said that they had an amazing year me and you yeah but let's give enjoy even dog they had

  • 25:18

    jay-z tweeting through it like they leaving she was tweeted I went that long ago that was far as business goes I was

  • 25:24

    at a launch that was at their launch was at the launch how long ago was that at the launch and probably you that's my

  • 25:30

    point see that's what I'm saying Rory at the launch of anything people that don't

  • 25:36

    understand or is honest I am I totally understand that but you're saying wouldn't Wheaton who and what J's you

  • 25:42

    did say though verbatim if it is funny on a pocket yes and I'm saying here now

  • 25:48

    is another perspective here okay we'll just don't sit here and agree with each other I'm because that's what this podcast could have been know it and and

  • 25:54

    that's why I'm trying to give another perspective here it's not good it can't be that know why because we both love

  • 26:00

    Drake everybody I know said are you sure you want to do that so we'll never feel

  • 26:07

    the same I said yep but only after a certain time remember I needed to be

  • 26:14

    prepared that [ __ ] playing chess he playing chess throwing rocks hiding behind [ __ ] I ain't Witten under that

  • 26:21

    [ __ ] a [ __ ] that great Joe Budden guess what I thought you dissed me let's do that let's stay under those pretenses

  • 26:28

    everybody's right Joe Budden is crazy I thought you just mean because I [ __ ] thought it [ __ ] dear it is so boy wonder text me

  • 26:34

    today okay passive-aggressive [ __ ] not him not him where one is my May I love

  • 26:41

    women I do to my god you say making it hard for me to for us to work again and

  • 26:46

    you mourn my favorite guys as the one that I understand and trust me trust me

  • 26:52

    understand I get it I have already I've weighed out all of this I've weighed out all of this already hey all you [ __ ]

  • 26:58

    are over oh I love y'all you ever see me a salute but when it come to rapping that's what it is I'm not looking for a

  • 27:04

    drink feature I'm not looking for a Drake feature I'm not looking to get a

  • 27:09

    record deal and I'm not looking to be famous nor do I care about kids I am the perfect person for this so we'll see

  • 27:16

    what happens I want to enjoy the 4th of July weekend I put it I put my single out uh that's for me is way more important than that this [ __ ] right here

  • 27:23

    is momentary I'm aware this year right here is gonna come and go unless he says something else the same night talking

  • 27:30

    about the French record no too late now too late now that little pump pump pump

  • 27:35

    it up uh you ain't [ __ ] don't be mad cuz I'm everything you thought I was gonna be I mean you thought you I became

  • 27:41

    everything you thought of whatever the [ __ ] you said man not enough now too late now I can go enjoy my weekend and

  • 27:46

    not be held captive that way oh I'm paranoid oh no dog trick out here

  • 27:52

    I'm training my father's like he shook he is that's another reason I did that

  • 27:57

    though but that is another reason I did there why is nobody rapping because Drake is should know that's what a

  • 28:04

    [ __ ] madman y'all not get the [ __ ] off no no but you know we laughing and that not fun if we're watching what's

  • 28:11

    going on that [ __ ] looks like Suge that [ __ ] is saying and doing as he pleases because

  • 28:17

    his career is in such an amazing space so he's afforded that luxury but [ __ ]

  • 28:23

    that no no no no no no I don't have time to play with um see me going what I'm

  • 28:29

    gonna do that meek and Drake's are meek what's the

  • 28:35

    plus one what am I trying to say meek and Drake's trajectory is a bit different meek wants to end up in this

  • 28:41

    know what I mean is what I'm no no that's not what I'm saying meek wants to end up somewhere uh where Drake

  • 28:48

    is like meek is on a major meek wants the features meek wants to you know he that's when I was his age I wanted to do

  • 28:54

    all that to maybe not it that's not true that's not true but that's why I'm so it's hard it's hard there it's hard when

  • 29:02

    you're trying to do the same things he's trying to do if you understand what I was in certainly the same for me I've

  • 29:09

    always wanted to eliminate a middleman I've always wanted to be

  • 29:15

    direct-to-consumer I'm easily easily misread by other people when there's no

  • 29:23

    context that's I guess that's where the stick skin comes from as soon as this district came out everybody said a meek

  • 29:29

    whole and Drake dist impossible for you to hear that hundred and whatever so

  • 29:36

    bars digest it one and of course we're gonna do that anymore so not know that

  • 29:42

    but I get it more clickbait more clickbait I'm just with the shits I just want to wrap this is not beef this is

  • 29:48

    I'm in a great mood I'm signed to myself with ability to rap

  • 29:54

    at a high level and great resources I'm celebrating I've always wanted to be in

  • 30:00

    a position where you can't blackballed me for me Rory for me if you understand

  • 30:06

    me and where I come from well you a lot of people don't but I have always had a problem with authority I've always had a

  • 30:12

    problem with leaving my feet to be decided by someone else that's judges that's cops that's just me

  • 30:19

    talking about Who I am it's the same with rap it's the same exact thing with rap so this was just

  • 30:27

    you happy to be able to do what you want to do well I was tired of waiting I was

  • 30:34

    title I was tired of waiting and I was prepared now that's the most important part I did this because I'm prepared now

  • 30:41

    now I'm ready now it matters none what he goes to do he

  • 30:46

    could put out a club record he could ignore me he could he could what it matters none what he does I have five

  • 30:53

    different options or all of those different scenarios I feel more comfortable being prepared

  • 31:01

    this way as an MC not as a pop star I don't have any club songs well that's

  • 31:07

    not true I don't have any dis club songs that's it I can't match as a couple of that's what I'm saying Clem work is over

  • 31:13

    yeah but no dis club records no I don't know if I can't make a December now I don't know if I know how to make a disc

  • 31:19

    Club record well I tried to make one of your club records a disc club record but she wasn't with it oh yeah y'all dude trying to do that

  • 31:27

    no no not hard - it would have been hard but know when you're going to get when you're going against or you're

  • 31:33

    addressing someone of that magnitude whatever you do that's hard is getting overlooked hmm I'm well aware I'm well

  • 31:40

    aware the target is great but well is Ramesh from your perspective Drake doing the club record against Meek made a lot of sense because everyone's

  • 31:46

    thirsty to play a drink record in the club DJ's would have been scared to play your record dissing Drake in the club

  • 31:53

    so maybe a 6-minute hot bar fight that's what you know no I'm not I'm very aware

  • 31:59

    of Who I am I'm aware of my abilities I'm aware of my shortcomings I'm not uncomfortable

  • 32:05

    I've never gotten into it like whose dick is bigger contests with like men I'm very comfortable on my skin I could

  • 32:12

    just wrap so 40 did all these interviews say hey I don't work with [ __ ] because

  • 32:17

    Drake is the best [ __ ] in the world I agreed at the time and I still agree dad Rick is probably the [ __ ] best

  • 32:23

    [ __ ] in the world he's not the best MC he's not the best MC all-around

  • 32:31

    a talent and artist I'm not thinking two too many no I'm not thinking I'm not thinking the

  • 32:38

    two minutes would be Hemi yeh like [ __ ] is so [ __ ] is so silly what did [ __ ] think that because I put this making of a murderer part one out that

  • 32:45

    when I go out tonight to celebrate fourth of July weekend in one dance come on I'm not grabbing a [ __ ] with a fat ass in small ways and get much

  • 32:52

    that is Neverland OBB really I'm not about to take my pleated khakis off and

  • 32:58

    put my [ __ ] former low in champion sweater right see your value here let me tell you what your value here is and I

  • 33:04

    should tell you this off here but me and Rory try not to talk because we want to keep [ __ ] fresh for the podcast your

  • 33:10

    value here is not agreeing with me but you were there to see it I know and I

  • 33:15

    wanted you to speak about it no it's not my place to speak about it sure is that's your personal that is your studio

  • 33:22

    session no no it's not my place is I wouldn't know you could see I was there I was there locked in we wrote we wrote

  • 33:27

    we wrote we wrote we wrote I've been writing since that clip came out like coincidentally it just so happens I know

  • 33:35

    it looks like it look I know what it looks like and I need to be objective not as your friend on this podcast not

  • 33:40

    only to ask the questions that other people care about because we do have to care about the fans of this podcast you

  • 33:45

    rolling your eyes but you're wrong you're wrong ain't nothing we have your own eyes uh we have to care about what

  • 33:51

    these people but you're not a good carrier that's why like you're just not a good carer I don't think we don't care

  • 33:59

    but you're trying to do it a service so I understand that's what this is here you're a bad day to work on learn how to cure it that's better god you got to

  • 34:07

    work a lot agate that's all I get [ __ ] fourth of July but Nomad [ __ ] out here yeah but you just put out a

  • 34:12

    [ __ ] six-minute diss record if you have [ __ ] question but no no no no no no I'm not gonna sit here read with you

  • 34:18

    around sometimes even though I'm a haven't said anything all I said was that I want to rap there's nothing to

  • 34:23

    disagree with I've said Drake is great I feel like I was addressed you could disagree with that and I responded and

  • 34:30

    there it is what is there to disagree with there now people want people are going to tune in to this podcast to see

  • 34:36

    what you have to say about what is being addressed on Twitter it in barber shops in conversation all right my wrongs is

  • 34:43

    what I have to say I hope we never have to talk about Drake again that's number

  • 34:49

    one that's not gonna happen I hope so I hope narrative cuz I hope he puts out good work I'm sick of it well

  • 34:55

    no it's like a - but good music out but I don't I'm saying in this capacity like

  • 35:01

    we've dissected this everything not just Drake but it'd have to see a few people saying

  • 35:07

    yo only artists I'll talk about our Drake Nick meek and Nicki no that's just the only episode y'all here of course

  • 35:14

    those ones that have yeah 150,000 less those are those are the ones that that leave podcast world but now [ __ ] talk

  • 35:21

    about so much [ __ ] um the studio was fun but I'm confused why people tune in to hear things that

  • 35:27

    they complain about they tune in because they want to hear it everyone and they complain about them i'ma tune in because

  • 35:34

    I see the artwork and I see y'all talking my Drake and then afterwards I'm gonna complain that I was talking about Drake whoa doesn't make sense

  • 35:40

    well I can't argue that because I love complaining about I don't know I love complaining about [ __ ] but let me just

  • 35:46

    get back into my brain I was very happy with pitchfork laughter you dissed them

  • 35:53

    that was my vet I didn't diss them and slaughter mouse in my story was it just okay I was very happy with pitchfork

  • 36:00

    that was my first time dealing with them I always thought that maybe they had an issue with me because they never did

  • 36:06

    anything with me I was wrong so that's one hmm

  • 36:11

    not the case yeah I was wrong I was wrong well they're at the level you have to go to them they're rarely are they

  • 36:17

    running to people I don't know if I was going to them I don't know if it was a

  • 36:23

    slaughterhouse thing I don't remember all I know is this that today as the head of my own [ __ ] and with me having

  • 36:31

    to approve or disapprove every single thing that happened I felt good I loved

  • 36:39

    it I enjoyed it all the problems that people caught me with today were easily

  • 36:44

    solved because I have I'm obsessive yeah I've already gone my brain has gone way

  • 36:52

    past these [ __ ] miniscule problems so that's what I'm celebrating Rory I'm celebrating the fact that I'm not signed

  • 36:59

    to anybody that's because I don't want the bet to be lost we've been talking

  • 37:04

    about streaming this whole time and all this [ __ ] and I've been being very being very cryptic and and and coded and some

  • 37:12

    things the blessing here is that there

  • 37:17

    are no papers anywhere and I don't want them is this your way of telling Drake till you

  • 37:24

    own your own you can't be free till you own your own you can't be me I was gonna you know what I had a lot about that I

  • 37:29

    did have a line about that because granite I do find that that line very funny and then the the rumors of title

  • 37:36

    being bought by Apple come out like yeah but those beans later yeah but though just ironic and funny though the rumors

  • 37:41

    and we don't know if J's goal was to be bought by a blending of the hustla I don't know but that's own rock nation so

  • 37:47

    I think he's okay yes I mean come on but I had a line about that but I didn't want to say that

  • 37:53

    because I thought then people would think I'm dissing [ __ ] and I want to say

  • 37:58

    every well not every but quite a few media outlets you know they jump on a

  • 38:03

    hot story with it and they all call I'm not doing interview about it because you

  • 38:09

    wanted me to interview no no now you're a horrible interviewer or you care no it's not something that is not something

  • 38:16

    I'm here to promote I know that it looks that way but without context it will look that way I'm here to promote just

  • 38:24

    hip hop not here is a new lock ass you doing a press run about this would yes that would look like you are definitely

  • 38:30

    reaching for attention but that's not is it it looks like a press run when people don't know that all these people are

  • 38:35

    [ __ ] calling your [ __ ] phone it does yeah but you taking the calls yeah you gotta look up there your perspective

  • 38:40

    there no I don't want section TMZ call not [ __ ] a lot of publications that not TMZ but a lot of them that don't

  • 38:47

    normally [ __ ] with me to call Drake is a hot story of course anybody say something about

  • 38:52

    Drake somebody gon call so you can get some type of you know I'm just white lips I'm cool my [ __ ] yo Dawg don't

  • 38:58

    call me for no interview we're not doing interviews about none of this beef [ __ ] if it aint rap and it's not beef but if

  • 39:05

    it's not rap we good on it we got a project coming we got a single out call

  • 39:11

    flex with Tori and fab and a rap I'm so excited about it because the music it's

  • 39:17

    a great record the music sounds great not to diss the music because when I

  • 39:25

    talk music I'm on all this amazing music that I made because that's the other part I was trying to say that earlier

  • 39:30

    before I got cut off this was so circumstantial this was so

  • 39:36

    it just so happens I've been working from February to now like living in the

  • 39:43

    studio not really tweeting just trying to recondition some things I fired every single person that had anything to do

  • 39:49

    with bran Joe button for the most part and started from the ground up because

  • 39:54

    that's what you have to do when there's [ __ ] uh look again Meena long ago do you want to speak what seems ain't no

  • 40:00

    know what else I want you Denny well you have to realize Drake and meek beef you

  • 40:05

    and meek beef the train home and me it's like a [ __ ] Kardashian dating circle it's compelling you know is no is no

  • 40:13

    beef so let me like so I'm Kardashian in China so anyways Redis I'm done I'm done addressing meek I'm done saying [ __ ]

  • 40:22

    meek because I'm not I'm not with that's what's getting lost here and I said just a pitch for but they didn't print it I'm

  • 40:28

    not with destroying other successful black men and I know that sounds

  • 40:34

    contradictory when you say [ __ ] somebody and then say I don't want to destroy them but in hip-hop I was gonna say it's

  • 40:40

    and he's effective to hip-hop we're competitive I would hope people no I mean no ill will toward Drake or meek we

  • 40:48

    need Meeks energy we need Drake's greatness but when I am addressed from

  • 40:53

    this point forward I'm not considering anyone elses feelings from this point out I've done that enough in my career

  • 41:02

    I've worked hard enough I fought hard enough to get right here the only reason

  • 41:09

    that that neke and Mickey thing in a neat meek and Nicki thing I'm sorry bothered me like I told pitchfork but I

  • 41:15

    don't know if they ran it they didn't run it nothing that it was a lot the only article the only it was great was

  • 41:20

    great but I gave him so much so I get it the only thing that bothered me about that is I was down at the time I said

  • 41:28

    that I was down we were sitting in my house we were watching TV the morale was low everybody was a [ __ ] up I didn't

  • 41:35

    want to rap I wanted nothing to do with hip-hop hey y'all just me I don't care my [ __ ] whatever then they kept going

  • 41:42

    you were there it was there was a year ago this weekend really when y'all went back

  • 41:48

    and forth on Twitter its fourth of July weekend we just came back from kickball I think we was in your living room Wow

  • 41:56

    was like a year ago yeah that's right look at God you're absolutely it was fourth of July

  • 42:01

    weekend but the part that hurt me about that is how hard they went while I was down after I had already apologized and

  • 42:08

    said hey you know I'm sorry I'm sorry I took it that way I was joking on a

  • 42:13

    podcast they continued and because identify so much with the last least

  • 42:20

    loss left out and looked over it's a lot else

  • 42:25

    I felt away and I made a mental note that's all I'm done with them no I'm

  • 42:33

    done I don't wanna I don't want to address them meek and I'm not meek and I Nicki and I have some family together oh

  • 42:39

    yeah yeah but not really family would like family that you be not gonna talk

  • 42:45

    about Queens family yeah me yeah see that's finally gonna say they're from Queens everyone knows I'm from

  • 42:50

    Queens no I want thanks are from Jersey cuz I rep Jersey okay well depending on how you look at it depends how you look

  • 42:56

    at where you come from from Dunkirk shut up come on somebody was M long mmm see

  • 43:02

    now you don't count Harlem cuz I left Harlem well I never knew you lived in oil I was born in Hong no I didn't care

  • 43:08

    that much to know you know what I really didn't care see how much funnier you are when you

  • 43:13

    don't care so no uh-uh Nikki and I and that's another thing

  • 43:19

    that shocked me that's what shocked me because when she did that it was like

  • 43:24

    huh hey wait a minute what rule do y'all plan by you didn't clear that with what

  • 43:30

    clear that with nah dog stick they had all before this podcast air they were

  • 43:36

    under attack she's a woman defensive about her relationship come on you know

  • 43:42

    women to an extent she was defensive that's where I disagree with you I don't think they were on it I don't think they

  • 43:49

    were under attack this time last year meek was on top of the world meat was on top of the world because I

  • 43:54

    was the laughingstock remember they jumped me I was the laughingstock into Drake me then the laughing stock there was still

  • 44:01

    not undertone ranking white like you know I don't care what [ __ ] say no for

  • 44:06

    a G restraint my [ __ ] hey [ __ ] been popping and it be mad subtext and that

  • 44:14

    is it that's it hey if you understand you understand if you don't you don't I'm not I'm not here to acquiesce to

  • 44:21

    what you idiots or non idiots understand I'm talking to the people who and I am

  • 44:29

    somewhat familiar with and I know that they believe in energy because everything I'm talking about its energy

  • 44:34

    and that's why guess why I jumped in this that's why that's why that's why

  • 44:39

    that is why energy well a lot of it was let's just talk a [ __ ] on a podcast but

  • 44:45

    no one really jumping into it it was a topic and we spoke on it and then it got picked what about the people say I

  • 44:52

    jumped myself into some [ __ ] great fine we'll go with that just wanna

  • 44:58

    rap nude do we think he'll respond let's let's get into our hypotheticals okay do

  • 45:05

    we think he'll respond uh no no I think he will throw what he did with common I

  • 45:10

    think he'll throw those type of jabs she that was a response that was around a

  • 45:16

    response wait wait wait stay schemin that to you and I standard that was not

  • 45:21

    a response and you from what you just did today are gonna tell me that was a response Heena say his name once it's

  • 45:29

    passive-aggressive I'm saying that's what he's going to do here and it may not even happen in six months from let

  • 45:35

    me ask you something because some is passive aggressive that means it's not a diss yeah answer it that's my question not to me

  • 45:42

    they've is not directed directly at me and I respect it yeah but that's you I

  • 45:48

    come from a narrow that hurts changing error that error is over the error is over listen the 4:00 p.m. and I told you this

  • 45:55

    about back then when we heard it when we heard 4:00 p.m. in Calabasas I said yo

  • 46:00

    we I love this I love this song and it's a dis and I think it's about me and I

  • 46:05

    love it but we would have laughed this [ __ ] out the gym if that [ __ ] came out when takeover and ether came out oh of course we laughing at that beat we

  • 46:12

    laughing at the we laugh at the same point it's a new time it's the new climate that [ __ ] gorillas God Jesus but guess what I come

  • 46:20

    from a place where [ __ ] said hey even if you even if people think you're going to lose that fight guess what

  • 46:28

    strap your [ __ ] up what you want me to do understand I get everybody's pause

  • 46:36

    for concern this is the intervention we're concerned about you Jeff yeah you know y'all now I get it I get it I get

  • 46:43

    it at one point I was concerned if we want to be perfectly honest I was concerned when we were sleeping in the studio and

  • 46:50

    I said let me tell you [ __ ] y'all we ended that that boy is coming inspired former Mills got a lot of money out of

  • 46:56

    me that we can yeah I said was saying yeah when that [ __ ] comes he's coming inspired I don't know what

  • 47:03

    an inspired Drake sounds like now but I want to be prepared cuz he ain't gonna sound like you sound right album I was

  • 47:09

    saying that right I'm unconfirmed somebody's ass don't worry I'm letting

  • 47:15

    you speak me I love you speak yes dog we was in the studio coming up with a thousand down [ __ ] it man

  • 47:22

    well heroin might be busy every word um explain how am I being [ __ ] here I'm

  • 47:30

    actually trying to make a sound doper like we didn't know we just kill something up real quick no in the hill will we not dope we have to respect that

  • 47:37

    guys come on man well know we loved I just admitted that I was in the studio the whole weekend we was cooking up

  • 47:43

    every different [ __ ] plot we recorded seven different things that this original track this original dish was

  • 47:48

    not on the same beat well then it was completely different this a read only thing from here Deadwood from insurance

  • 47:55

    their first four bars mmm I knew then that none of that would be the I told you uh I remember I told

  • 48:01

    y'all I said yo by the time it's time for the shit's I may have a whole new

  • 48:06

    set of bars in my head I'm a whole new idea so that's where I am now break

  • 48:11

    Aubry Drizzy is that all those names I

  • 48:17

    don't know six Scott uh what's his Instagram name um don't yeah yeah nice try nice try

  • 48:26

    nice try dear buddy nice no it hasn't question I know I know it well factor yeah no oh you look yeah yo yeah we we

  • 48:35

    offer this unless we have reason to not be off it now check this out we just said he think he's not gonna

  • 48:40

    respond right however when and if that friendship comes out and if that line is

  • 48:46

    still there I would say we're plot yes

  • 48:56

    yes are you well first of all back to your [ __ ] comment I was the first [ __ ]

  • 49:01

    now you is my only [ __ ] that's true how was in that studio where everyday [ __ ]

  • 49:07

    tiresome I've seen your place where we go feeling then let me tell you something about about Rory and this is

  • 49:13

    why I [ __ ] with Rory because I know how big of a Drake fan Rory is he more of a trek fan tonight book on I'm what Rick

  • 49:19

    vanity I know how big of a Drake fan Rory is so his commitment to the mission

  • 49:27

    while I'm a fan about hurting us well I was hurt I was hurt I had to be there

  • 49:32

    like I'm glad I could go [ __ ] [ __ ] around this for for July weekend because at any point Drake French ah who else

  • 49:41

    uh any at any point somebody says something I'm prepared even though I'm

  • 49:48

    crazy and nobody's paying me an internship here I'm glad we got that

  • 49:54

    cleared up yeah I can't wait to I can't wait to respond oh that uh thanks bad

  • 49:59

    what Marcus happy great get your favorite [ __ ] arrays a bit I have some comments about fans that I'll leave

  • 50:05

    Oh fab is great fab is great fab is great sound effect no fan just want to know fabula know why I put the dis out

  • 50:12

    and that at the same exact time what to the people that may not understand that

  • 50:18

    people maybe I should know maybe know maybe I should not I don't know I'm

  • 50:23

    gonna finish way no I've never been this my own label head CEO before well my thinking there was and this is

  • 50:30

    not to offend you because you're well aware of what's typically people are not just searching for the new Joe Budden

  • 50:36

    single 100 so every last person in the world actually got 10,000 hits in what two

  • 50:41

    minutes which rather diss which one the disk to drink I never checked numbers yeah it's crap SoundCloud shut down when

  • 50:49

    it when it would down okay so naturally if you're driving everyone to something that's typically not

  • 50:54

    looking for a job button record and you have a record with fabulous and Tory Lanez which are two very familiar people

  • 50:59

    to the popular rap fan [ __ ] maybe I'll click that too maybe I'll listen to a joke thinking yeah and even bigger

  • 51:07

    than that what what I didn't want to do was I didn't want to premiere that the

  • 51:13

    mic I didn't want my pitchfork premiere to be such a laid-back like just a cool

  • 51:22

    like no it's not no rap it's not really rap rap it's like just feel good so I didn't want that to just be there to

  • 51:28

    stand alone so when I weighed my other options it was do I do I put that out with some of the other stuff that didn't

  • 51:33

    make the that I'm not clearing the sample for that wasn't seductive or provocative so I didn't really like it

  • 51:38

    it was funny because the the Flex record which is Tory Lanez and famine Joe uh leaked a bit early and a wrap and a rap

  • 51:46

    uh emulation my mentions were full of angry Joe Budden fans cause you and I

  • 51:52

    were alluding that something was happening today but something much more aggressive than that record I had a

  • 51:58

    thousand Joe Budden fans in my mentions like this is what you said was hat this is the mission this is what I was hyping

  • 52:04

    up no missus rap is back I was like no that's nothing man I want to be like he'll just wait Poppaea no that's not

  • 52:10

    the mission well you know what happened was uh the [ __ ] some [ __ ] iTunes I did i tonight's Australian time

  • 52:16

    difference it wasn't even a correct version of it which is why I'm soaked I wasn't mad at the [ __ ] [ __ ] at all

  • 52:21

    but I love that record fabulou I know what you think that's the dumbest you

  • 52:29

    [ __ ] you think I'm like crazy oh I'm gonna draw a lot of people think I'm pretty fab has been pretty successful so

  • 52:35

    but I am gonna disagree with him here typically I would take fab advice here but I'm not going to it's tough because

  • 52:42

    fab that's a tough spot fab can advise me on what's best for me but know our

  • 52:48

    careers are so different like fab is is commercial me absolute well fab

  • 52:55

    can't couldn't really do what you did today I don't know that oh no I'm not saying ability wise oh no no no no no no no no

  • 53:02

    no no I'm saying fab just couldn't do that hey let me tell you something no I love advocator danceability rapper Rory be

  • 53:10

    quiet let me get my casts seriously there's like a hole up higher they said no no no well no my segment today

  • 53:16

    conspiracy theorist Joe thanks Jimmy Butler got all the bull straight but

  • 53:24

    conspiracy theory Joe thinks that plenty more people will do soon what I did

  • 53:30

    today I think so and I'm not hey for the people that like to assume [ __ ] I'm not

  • 53:35

    talking about fat fab and I have not talked about dissing trick at all and I would never tell John Matthew much to

  • 53:40

    even ever I don't want anybody in Joe's [ __ ] but Joe since I wasn't talking

  • 53:47

    about behind the scenes things before and I will know yeah that's by a lot a lot of rappers knew what we were doing

  • 53:55

    in that studio and had heard the clip and it heard the actual record and hit Joe up and said I'm a thousand percent

  • 54:01

    behind you I just personally can't get involved right now a lot of [ __ ] rappers wanted to do what happened to

  • 54:08

    that kid is powerful that kid is powerful that ovo kid and you better ride if people don't like that get away

  • 54:14

    yeah but he's successful that's why that's why then that's what well let me

  • 54:21

    take a lot a lot of your favorite rappers reached out and said hey yeah I'm with the [ __ ] and I can't wait and I

  • 54:27

    think that kid is [ __ ] for even saying pump pump it up cuz I don't think he realizes even though he's been a

  • 54:32

    stand of you since the beginning he should not do this that's what people said your favorite rappers were saying

  • 54:38

    this but rappers listen with rapper ears the way that rappers and again I know

  • 54:44

    I'm the nut but I look at rappers like the superheroes of the universe there I mean that rappers with just musicians

  • 54:51

    anyone with like musical ability or just a packed I look at them like superheroes

  • 54:57

    because they're normally really weird it's they normally have a some Corky nuance a

  • 55:02

    couple screws loose and they're normally like the most amazed a can do possess some amazing ability like [ __ ] mr.

  • 55:09

    fantastic or some [ __ ] so that's how that's how that's how I look at it I always go on such a ran that I forget

  • 55:14

    what my original point was that's a theme on this podcast I think I got a TD or some [ __ ] you think but so you have rap rappers

  • 55:23

    say I think a lot more I think a lot more of what occurred today will come soon because all it ever take is one and

  • 55:28

    contrary to what what people are saying I don't have any bad blood up with a

  • 55:35

    Drake however however some of these other people who may not like him

  • 55:41

    whoever they are yeah actually a bad blood yeah like hey like Drake fans y'all don't have to jump

  • 55:47

    in my mentions and tell me how a wack I am one I'm aware I'm wack - I'm aware

  • 55:54

    I'm wack - y'all are and three I don't care what y'all got to say anyway y'all not let me talk to you all about what my

  • 56:01

    agenda is and what we've alluded to we've spoken about the mission on all of

  • 56:08

    this [ __ ] ah but for me I want to get to a place where I am direct all across the

  • 56:16

    board direct-to-consumer with everything

  • 56:21

    affiliated with Joe Budden like a hub I believe for me I believe that if you're

  • 56:26

    not signed to Apple Records or Google Records you will have to fend for yourself if you're a small business

  • 56:33

    owner so me versus Drake while I get that that is how it's thinly-veiled it's

  • 56:41

    really small business owner versus major corporation I'm always gonna fight for

  • 56:47

    small business I'm always gonna fight for rights I don't know why people be so

  • 56:53

    quick to sign their entire life over to someone else a record deal ain't nothing

  • 56:58

    but a bank loan yeah but well I think that mentality is changing a lot now I

  • 57:04

    think earlier people were just happy to get some money in their pocket because it was very much needed but I think people are much more lucid and aware

  • 57:10

    that it is getting [ __ ] in the and longer savvy people I mean I always say with the internet you're now

  • 57:15

    direct-to-consumer that changed everything the internet made it independent you don't need you needed

  • 57:22

    that attribution that you needed it that's true you you as a [ __ ] guy that has 500 followers could upload your

  • 57:29

    [ __ ] to iTunes it'll come up yeah but you probably an spotify maker the greatest living no that way if you have

  • 57:36

    500 followers well they're probably not gonna sign you see but I make but I make a pretty good living and I'm happy see

  • 57:44

    when I was on Def Jam and I was at the peak of what some would say my at the

  • 57:50

    height of my success in my fame I was miserable I was miserable I was fighting every day and all of those things that I

  • 57:57

    fought with with them I'm looking at hip-hop now and I'm able to do those

  • 58:03

    things today so while you had a Drake this came out but it's really reflective

  • 58:08

    for me it's so much more than that it's so much more well a segue here so we can

  • 58:15

    finally wrap up the Drake thing I'm betting the jury no no no not for you - okay um back to Jay's record and where

  • 58:23

    he seems to not be throwing jabs but perspective to who he is and who Drake is Ken Drake really hit that level with

  • 58:31

    being in this many contracts and signed to this many people dream to take the

  • 58:37

    torch and lead hip-hop the way Jay Z has to independence your drugs it seems that

  • 58:42

    Drake is signed I don't know if Drake again I'm not getting in someone's pockets but I'm not sure if Drake makes

  • 58:47

    any money off music sales period well he signed something I don't know that

  • 58:53

    either no what nobody will know that because Drake is not hard up for money that's all of course he but sure he's doing

  • 59:00

    just fine but that boy sure do tour a lot for someone of his success of course

  • 59:07

    Cole - but that's kind of how Cole got power I think and I don't know but

  • 59:14

    different yeah I think those two scenarios are different and I don't think Cole Wow

  • 59:20

    he's rap elite of course I still don't look at it the same I

  • 59:26

    don't we don't with Cole's not selling a million records the first week today right now what he might today well I don't we don't make my sold his last

  • 59:32

    seven let's say that let's say that his last album whatever year that was was a number one selling album you know I know

  • 59:38

    so I'm saying if he will sell a million records he hasn't done it yet there you

  • 59:43

    know in the first minute we of course yeah yeah yeah so I guess how I'm looking at him is different still look

  • 59:50

    at all the people that sold a million records in the first week Wayne fifty just think of them all and think

  • 59:55

    of how they tour yeah I mean it's hard work it's hard work everybody yeah then

  • 1:00:02

    it's a 360 do your not keep your money yeah but let me tell see Drake is the is

  • 1:00:09

    the point one percent of artists that can sign a bad a bunch of bad deals and

  • 1:00:15

    be so successful that it doesn't matter so for me what's what's more important

  • 1:00:23

    in all of this is the knowledge for anyone trying to be in drinks position

  • 1:00:30

    or my position you got to figure out what works best for you arm and me

  • 1:00:38

    personally this is my last bit of speculation actually I'm dumb dumb demos

  • 1:00:43

    I'm up what I'll end it there nice I think Drake is it extremely intelligent and I think this move in the Apple and

  • 1:00:50

    getting out of all his young money Universal come out putting out this music as fast as he can is a way because

  • 1:00:56

    I think Apple is not giving him a [ __ ] in the ass deal cuz he seems very

  • 1:01:01

    excited about Apple and I think judging off his intelligence this far in his career he's not gonna make a stupid deal

  • 1:01:07

    if he could not just go independent cuz he's one of the few artists that could make millions and millions and millions if he was by himself okay but

  • 1:01:16

    then the question beers how do you get to his level without it see because that

  • 1:01:21

    we need to start doing podcast like that we need to always go so much deeper let's stop looking at [ __ ] how does

  • 1:01:27

    someone get to drink or just that level of success you have to sign you have to give a little bit you got to give a

  • 1:01:33

    little horse of course of course so now I mean when you unfortunately for him [ __ ] you saw he was that talented long before

  • 1:01:40

    so whether that be J Prince whether that be [ __ ] um Wayne whoever you could hear it early I

  • 1:01:46

    heard it early anybody who heard comeback season could hear it yeah so you knew it was coming on and when

  • 1:01:53

    you're that age and I'm not talking about him cuz I'm talking my me now too but every a lot of artists we have that

  • 1:01:58

    story talk to artists we have stories of bad contracts oh and my career I won't

  • 1:02:04

    say has been littered with them but I've had my fair share that I thought but there would never be a light at the end of that tunnel I'm going out to

  • 1:02:12

    celebrate not a drink this I don't don't even talk to me about director don't tweet me I'm not I'm not I'm been dark

  • 1:02:19

    I'm not on Twitter I'm not with the shit's time is measured by the second I do not have time for that I just want to

  • 1:02:26

    put this project out so for the people asking me when it's coming out I don't know but the good part is I'm signed to

  • 1:02:31

    myself mood music move music so if I wake up tomorrow and say hey I want to

  • 1:02:37

    put album out tomorrow guess what can happen that can happen without any label

  • 1:02:43

    head looking at me and saying no you can't do that you are not big enough to

  • 1:02:49

    do that why does everybody have to be big enough to do that why can't you just

  • 1:02:54

    do it if you want to do it why how come the things that we want to do has to be

  • 1:03:00

    contingent upon some other [ __ ] and I'm off on a tangent here well I like that in some way that is around Morton a lot

  • 1:03:07

    of the label heads and let me be careful with my words here a lot of the lil man your political connect I'm not going to

  • 1:03:13

    because I do think you shouldn't offend your political connect sometimes uh a lot of these people were in the era of

  • 1:03:21

    radio Radio radio album marketing tour disappear repeat they're not on the

  • 1:03:28

    internet every day they're not in the independent mind state because they have they built these labels and deserve all

  • 1:03:33

    the [ __ ] credit in the world because they made this exact formula and they love this formula so everybody not

  • 1:03:40

    independent thinker anyway everybody not a free thinker and you say and stick to it

  • 1:03:45

    but you know I just gotta say that's just what they know yeah that's all it is yeah I know some of us don't live in the

  • 1:03:50

    world that it lived for the world that is we live for the world that will be and that's definitely not a shot at any

  • 1:03:57

    of them my only critique there would be I understand you built what we love you

  • 1:04:03

    should let us help you because you're selling to us you're selling to my demographic I can tell you about me

  • 1:04:10

    better than you can Drake jay-z em somebody powerful and

  • 1:04:19

    accomplished we need a union honestly I've been

  • 1:04:24

    saying it since I got a record deal there are no you there's no Union for

  • 1:04:29

    artists well Irv uh J jazz all I'm tried

  • 1:04:34

    to do it once upon a time when they all tried to break unlocked what did they tried to tell me uh cash money we talkin

  • 1:04:42

    acapella this was years and years ago every major not independent but a label

  • 1:04:47

    like a Cash Money Rockefeller that start themselves and then you partnered with a major hmm tried to come together no no

  • 1:04:52

    no I got what listen that's not what really what do you mean come together they tried to form a conglomerate I'm

  • 1:04:59

    talking about a union not not a pasta no no that can become a union know if

  • 1:05:07

    you're bringing all the major people that actually move the needle here that can police everything that's a union

  • 1:05:15

    that's workers cuz they're the workers you're the people moving the needle ninety execs I agree so that that was a

  • 1:05:20

    union that was tried it was a lot ever and you can google that I'm sure there's you to consumers II James talked about

  • 1:05:27

    it it had herbs talked about it a lot jiae's hinted at a few times I've heard Jay Hannah Bob Rock a lot has talked

  • 1:05:33

    about it a lot what has to happen for a union a union to happen well now it's

  • 1:05:39

    much more look cuz they were on contracts aligned whiskey boys you ain't none of the [ __ ] artists getting paid

  • 1:05:45

    no I'm saying it's easier now to do that because more people are independent then was it's not yes it's not easier now

  • 1:05:52

    because he's [ __ ] late they've who's getting paid for music how's it easier

  • 1:05:57

    now we've given them even more rights we let bootleg musicians on streaming [ __ ] so

  • 1:06:05

    how can we do it now we're weaker and this is a holiday weekend but this come

  • 1:06:10

    this pocket now this scarf this is going somewhere yes we may need table this yes yeah I don't care about I don't care about the drink

  • 1:06:17

    stuff is very small it's very small I don't care enough about it to talk about it a lot if you get it you get if you've

  • 1:06:22

    been following when you found if you haven't you have it if you do like it you like you take sweat whatever we off that but this conversation here this is important this

  • 1:06:29

    is like important [ __ ] Union and hip-hop that's important [ __ ] whatever else we just said that I missed mmm because I

  • 1:06:37

    can't remember but these are the more pertinent issues and if I can stop

  • 1:06:42

    [ __ ] having the [ __ ] a rap against all these functions great [ __ ] like would somebody use a brain would

  • 1:06:48

    somebody stop being all for self well i'm advocator of not complaining without

  • 1:06:54

    a solution so you always complain without focus they can be an advocate or

  • 1:07:00

    some shitty dead-ass do all the time yeah advocate or just not complain I don't I don't know that they don't know

  • 1:07:06

    yeah so what are you what are your weekend plans well let me neck it to that Derrick Rose

  • 1:07:12

    before I get out of here cuz let's keep this short okay I'll keep my kt [ __ ] short soon the Knicks finally made a trade I like yeah

  • 1:07:20

    I'll take it there's I definitely take it I was skeptical in the beginning um and a joke bits hello I'm about to link up with him

  • 1:07:27

    now oh that why he's calling me maybe I wouldn't have some suit oh no Rory said

  • 1:07:32

    he'll link up with you in a minute I'm doing my podcast this was the first time anyway so get off oh my god what's up

  • 1:07:41

    I'm doing a pie oh my god no no picture what picture tell oh I was just about to

  • 1:07:47

    text back shut up low good good yeah I'm not gonna

  • 1:07:57

    speak sounds very intriguing hey what is this in real time see good wait wait

  • 1:08:06

    wait repeat that low low whip you ready wait what'd you say wait all right

  • 1:08:12

    lawyer call you back see there's no let him spend that time ik see but this is my point Rory what do

  • 1:08:18

    you say low just called and said they over y'all know well whoever the [ __ ] that is Oh some [ __ ] something a name

  • 1:08:23

    no well any respect on the angle some [ __ ] look at you now getting aggressive

  • 1:08:29

    now everybody over you guys see out there is no no but listen see what I did see what explain ovo Noel

  • 1:08:38

    who tweeted a picture of of ovo in the

  • 1:08:44

    studio and it was a picture of a monitor

  • 1:08:55

    right wait timeout come out it didn't work wait I thought that nobody knew who

  • 1:09:00

    I was but Joe they make music they could

  • 1:09:06

    very well be in front of a monitor listen listen he said that I'm here with

  • 1:09:11

    you I don't know what's happening online I don't eat it I'm not mining in hell alone I'm not none of that I don't know

  • 1:09:19

    who the [ __ ] ovo noel is but hi pleasure to meet you if you listening and I I

  • 1:09:26

    welcome it he's not listening he's in front of a [ __ ] monitor trying to kill you they might be listening this

  • 1:09:32

    isn't live honest no I'm gonna say ovo

  • 1:09:38

    Noel tell your [ __ ] boss [ __ ] hey poorgrass [ __ ] a new slave ass

  • 1:09:45

    [ __ ] tell your boss I mean that before

  • 1:09:51

    I got word of your monitor picture I would go in the studio to celebrate anyway that's a wrap I'm going to sit

  • 1:09:58

    there and just examine monitor oh I could post a picture ramanujan me so we

  • 1:10:04

    got to go to former mills listen we are yeah it is over your radio tomorrow there is the old night that's what's at

  • 1:10:10

    you tomorrow it's over your radio tomorrow I don't know if Drake is hosting or not I'm sure ain't no let me

  • 1:10:15

    not say I'm sure he'll be Joe Budden this is I'm sure it will be something that I will think is it this that no one

  • 1:10:20

    else will make it sure hopefully it will be aggressive now

  • 1:10:25

    I do want bars Didier boy movie bars Drake 4 p.m. in Calabasas with bars yes

  • 1:10:34

    Oh morning what it don't have to be to me but if it is take plate great well

  • 1:10:39

    even if it's not I am here to embrace and welcome all over yo Noelle's energy

  • 1:10:48

    monitor energy hey Noelle ooh spooky I looked at that monitor you see see now

  • 1:11:01

    we're in AI element but don't worry I'll back with that one we're trying to be mature this is a good nap monitor in

  • 1:11:07

    that studio look tasty oh my god he tweeted see that's what's wrong a generational he tweeted picture a

  • 1:11:12

    monitor so that means it's cooking it has to be coming yeah

  • 1:11:19

    but I'm glad that on 4th of July weekend the same way that on Memorial Day

  • 1:11:25

    weekend we were there I'm glad that they now are there yeah in the studio yeah I

  • 1:11:31

    think they've been there I think their focus has changed that's what I'll say

  • 1:11:36

    all right oh we all Noel I love Drake I match in the [ __ ] up and

  • 1:11:42

    you whichever's talking pictures [ __ ] now celebrate how about that [ __ ] so

  • 1:11:51

    what are you doing this we get the same thing I do every [ __ ] weekend sit on a [ __ ] break this door I'm gonna smoke

  • 1:11:57

    some [ __ ] hookah and not change the [ __ ] tip and pass it up no bad your

  • 1:12:02

    pan is joint woman were yes Johnny Palooza do do all their you know you don't do paws in a oh yeah no I never do

  • 1:12:08

    porch and let us see some real flavor I'm so excited hey wait see that's what the problem is though all the people that said no Drake

  • 1:12:15

    can respond Rick's not responded Rick not respond ignore him and we're gonna lecture level monitor shut up timing Rory timing it's a picture I will

  • 1:12:23

    dis the [ __ ] out of that monitor that's where I am right now with the hey

  • 1:12:28

    anybody listening yes I'm crazy and yes

  • 1:12:33

    I want to rap and yes I don't care what anybody thinks about me and yes it

  • 1:12:39

    this is me I will enjoy and I will dance to it if it's dope all right but wait Rory before we leave did not

  • 1:12:48

    take didn't we say he was waiting for me we did we're system and we did it yes no

  • 1:12:55

    we know what this is ca fans let me tell you all this before I go the reason that none of this stuff has been occurring

  • 1:13:01

    and it's been all this plotting behind the scenes is because of a mutual respect for one another that we have in

  • 1:13:06

    our abilities that y'all are gonna dismiss because y'all don't respect me I get that I understand that that was well

  • 1:13:14

    said right what important I mean I just don't remember my point again was that

  • 1:13:19

    shocker I don't know man let's wrap it up I was ready to wrap up two [ __ ]

  • 1:13:24

    local star tell me we had a [ __ ] monitor Oh [ __ ] monitor there's another yo it was a loner in that sound

  • 1:13:31

    waiting ovo Noelle's Twitter name huh I'm gonna hire ovo Noel hey boy wonder

  • 1:13:38

    who I love I'm over yo really Y wonder

  • 1:13:47

    who I do love we still have that batch of beats that you sent us bro making a

  • 1:13:53

    murderer part two on a Boy Wonder Pete you want to and I'm one hey come on

  • 1:13:58

    let's go tweet our own [ __ ] pictures oh yeah [ __ ] Noel how about big [ __ ] take a pictures [ __ ] Mike no I'm silly

  • 1:14:06

    no wise well they have this much phone the biggest rapper in the world dissing them he's not dissing your dishing that

  • 1:14:12

    [ __ ] dis adeney is about to tear me up in his head he bout to go and he got to

  • 1:14:20

    talk about all types of [ __ ] hopefully he does it great and well so I could put

  • 1:14:26

    out the [ __ ] that I've been wanting to put and then hopefully he responds to that listen Drake Drake you could use

  • 1:14:33

    press every dis you have on your ovo radio this gonna be Jovi Joe pocket

  • 1:14:40

    rivet oh hey on this podcast I'm gonna play something for every [ __ ] time

  • 1:14:47

    I think you talking about me only cuz this is fun for me here's my right son l mad I

  • 1:14:53

    want everybody whisper come back I want the fans enjoy this what about you immediate people to enjoy this

  • 1:14:58

    I want the rappers to enjoy it a rapper that is ready to wrap is coming to rap

  • 1:15:04

    [ __ ] over yo Noelle's picture of that monitor [ __ ] [ __ ] low Quito my Eric

  • 1:15:10

    see this what's wrong with you young kid Loki at a crowded bar drinking holiday weekend mad [ __ ] a way telling me

  • 1:15:15

    about Oh be on the way I wish a Mac give me the [ __ ] I'm Regine the sandwich now

  • 1:15:21

    all right we're gonna wrap up here back to the studio Noel don't you want to

  • 1:15:27

    pull it what I love doing online to this guy this is why I have to drive home would you want it no we're not going

  • 1:15:32

    who's gone oh no baby no top behind no sleeper song is let's get it no I don't

  • 1:15:38

    flex no no no we know is playing flex now we got sleepers on my [ __ ] business it's Noel what sweet pictures

  • 1:15:44

    Noel you watch sweet pictures let's [ __ ] turn it up

  • 1:15:50

    I'm not taking I'm not giving his locks relax partner I'm not gonna use backslap

  • 1:15:55

    both you win a snapchat blogger with shawl verdad smarter I'm out man come on I'm ready to go finish up speaker song

  • 1:16:03

    my next dish this is flex his actual record featuring fab and sore legs

  • 1:16:08

    Oh to iTunes itunes link pick it up on iTunes pick it up on iTunes pick it up on iTunes raging the Machine Roger Mason

  • 1:16:14

    I say facilities feeling like summer smile

  • 1:16:20

    yeah she don't own a nice that a [ __ ] winner hey for honey cross

  • 1:16:26

    oh honey grass yeah she don't know that nice that a [ __ ] bit down for honey

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