76

All right. Are we alive? Look at parks. Yeah. Look at parks. I see you. Rory, this is 76,

right? Somewhere. Microphone check 1212. One2. Mic check one, two, one, two. I

will name this podcast later. This is episode number 76. I am Joe Button. To

the left of me, I have Rory Lanes. Uh, do I want to introduce our our guest

yet? Yeah, I do. I do. I do. You have to give him a proper introduction, though. Yeah, you do it. The hater. The haters

in the building. My uh my personal favorite radio personality who I grew up

on. Uh we have Star with us today. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Troy Troy Terrain

from New Jersey. What what part? Scots planes to be exact. Are you still in New Jersey? No, I I've been in Pennsylvania

uh close to 30 years. I have a business that I never speak about which is very lucrative and that's the reason why I'm

I'm still stationed in Pennsylvania. But Jerseyy's home racist state that it is. Oh my god.

You know, I was just talking to Rory about that because I I moved to I'm I'm

I've lived in white areas, right? Yeah. I I would say a lot. We can say we can

say where you were last because you're not there anymore. Edgewater is pretty white. Nah, but it's not really white

white. Total was white and they weren't very celebrity friendly and I got kicked the [ __ ] out of here and the cops were at my house every day because of parties

and loud music. I'm not sure the new location is the best. This is the whitest area I have ever moved to. That

will remain anonymous. Okay. Okay. And and I'm a little nervous about it. As

just as a black man, a young black man, I'm a little nervous about it. Well, and and Joe, who I I like to just [ __ ] on

all the time. It's a very nice house. It looks like a [ __ ] like Scarface lives there. Okay. Okay. I'm very happy for my

friend even though I want to [ __ ] on him. It's a beautiful [ __ ] home. Well, thank you. Listen that we're going to burn to the ground. No, we're not.

No, we're going to act like we have Cuth. No. Cuth. Rory and I are very happy to have you here, Star. Hey, thank

you for the invite. If I can just cut in for a second. Please cut in whenever you want. I I apologize for not being able

to make it, you know, uh a month or two ago when you guys invited invited me, pardon me, at first. Um I'm I'm I'm

swamped in Pennsylvania with other uh uh uh responsibilities and uh it's just

been a little tough. You know, the the time testing The mic went out. The mic went out. There you go. That's better. I

was swamped with uh the time frame, but uh I thank you for the invite. I don't do too many interviews, not because I

have anything to hide, but because I'm I'm constantly moving forward and I don't like to harp on anything that has

to do with the past, especially if it's by way of, you know, hiphop or anything like that. So, but but again, thank you for the invite and I'm glad that I could

finally make it. So, you know, my memory is way too bad for this [ __ ]

So, damn, my memor is bad. This is number 76, you said. Oh, I [ __ ] the number up every week. I I make a number

up. I I don't I don't give a [ __ ] about the number. I tell people all the time I don't fact check here and my brain races so much that it's just hard for me to

keep up. But yeah, Rory and I have been trying to have you here for quite some time. Uh and we don't have guests. Okay.

Not at all. So the same way you don't do interviews, we don't have guests because I just don't [ __ ] with people and I

don't be wanting to talk to people. Right. Right. Right. I I do do interviews. I'm just I I do them

selectively. Well, yeah. in moderation. I just don't feel that everything I do needs to be broadcasted or promoted. You

I'm still the same guy that I was back in the early 80s when I first moved to New York from New Jersey. And it's all

about me. My journey is um self-defining, self-fulfilling, and self-enlightening. So, I don't

necessarily need to always, you know, advertise or or, you know, [ __ ] myself out, so to speak. Well, that's the era

that we're in. Everybody [ __ ] themselves. Yeah. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. I am telling you I can make sense of suicide, but that's a

whole another uh conversation. Uh funny you say that. I I guess we have to address this. I I have to because my

mother asked me to address it. Okay. Um and I'm not giving too much backstory. All right. Let me get the drum line going. All right. Listen, anything that

I say now that's about to get me into some [ __ ] [ __ ] This is Joe saying it. So, and I welcome the [ __ ] [ __ ] cuz I

don't give a [ __ ] But but we're going to have some class. We're going to have some class because my mother raised me better than that. I'm not going to spend

too much time on this. I didn't even think that this uh this uh Hot 97

Marissa not being on my podcast thing was like a big deal. I didn't know that

people really Why do people care about this [ __ ] like that? Are we just in a age where people just care about [ __ ]

that's real insignificant? Or am I that disattached from what's important in life? Well, social media gives you an

opportunity to have a platform and give an opinion on something that you would not give an opinion on had that platform

not existed. So now have this [ __ ] [ __ ] Okay. I didn't think I ever needed to

explain to any of you [ __ ] out there why I fire people on my podcast cuz I thought that was the point of it

being my podcast. But since this gained some momentum, Joe Button, if if for those

that don't follow me, I'm very big on communication. I'm very big on being

transparent. Um, and I practice that amongst in all my relationships, all of them. business, uh, personal, romantic.

So, when people that I care about are not

communicative, I don't want to say it. It It's It's troublesome. It's troublesome for me. So, long story

short, I let go of Marissa, and I thought that I addressed it here very well by not really addressing it because

I care about her. Then, they invited me to do the morning show at Hot 97, which I did not want to do. I did not want to

do. Let me repeat. I did not want to do. I did not want to do. But my white Jewish manager said, "Come on. I mean,

you got an album we got to promote sometime. At some point, we have to promote it." Because I've been saying, "You have a solo album or a group album

coming out?" I have a solo album coming out. I'm independent. It'll come out whenever the [ __ ] I feel like. Whenever.

So, my manager, I've been doing all of this press, right? And my and my manager is like, "Yo, when are we going to start

pushing like a date?" Right. I'm like, I don't care about that. I don't care about pushing the date, but he's white and Jewish and I'm black in the hood.

So, there's a cultural there's a little difference there. So, I go up there against my better judgment and proceed

to have a conversation that I didn't think should have been held on air. I

don't think that conversation should have been I don't think that the public should have been privy to it. And I

didn't have the I didn't answer uh phone calls. I didn't have it on my podcast. I didn't have it when you text me. I

didn't have it when you called me. So, what the [ __ ] would make anybody think that Joe was going to have that conversation on air on the radio? If you

don't know Joe, that what that wasn't happening. That wasn't happening. Mhm. So, I probably came off a bit uh what's

the term? Cold uh uninterested. I was uninterested. I

was I was uninterested in that. So, and that's just where where where I will leave it. I still wish Marissa the best.

I do as well. Um, and I mean I from my perspective, I was very vocal to you that I think you should have called her

so we we can just bury this. Are you talking about a former co-host or something like that? Yeah, Marissa Marissa used to uh she did the podcast

with us. Uh, and then and then we went in different directions, aka she was let

go because of some [ __ ] [ __ ] that Peter said on air. And that part didn't really

get uh Peter Rosenberg. That part didn't really get any burn. That that rant. No, that rant didn't get any burned. But

that is why she was let go and I'll have that conversation with anyone who wants to have it. Certainly not on air. Just

not doing it. Well, with all due respect, uh, you know, my vid time is 11:32. So, if we could get back to that [ __ ] [ __ ] at another point, I would

appreciate that. Now, if we can get back to [ __ ] [ __ ] and and flop 97 at another point, you know, I I I I don't

give a [ __ ] And personally, I don't think anyone gives a [ __ ] That's why See, but I'm a little sociopathic that

way. I don't care about [ __ ] and then I find out that other people caring about it. But I'm with that. You are an intricate uh thinker. Yeah. I'm nobody's

fan, but you are an intricate, detailed thinker. Um so so you do, you know, tend to go

into things very deep and and that reflects in your music. Yeah, I can appreciate that from you, you know.

Thank you. Uh but um anyway, hey, thank you guys for the invite. I'm I'm excited to be here. Hang on. Hang on. If I can

just spit this out. If I spit this out. Uh, you are one of the

original hip-hop social engineers. Do people know that? I mean, that's good

terminology. I don't think they do. I don't think so. Yeah. I I I pay attention to everything. I I watch, you

know, everything that moves, you know, on the landscape of um uh media and you were one of the original hip-hop social

engineers. So, so uh you know, coming here to talk to you, it it was a lot of

preparation. I didn't want to come here, you know, drinking and just, you know, talking crazy and reckless. So, I'm I'm excited to to um to talk to you, you

know, with regards to what it is that you're doing now. Um so, again, I ask you, do people know that you are one of

the originals who was doing filming your your life, you know, back before YouTube even popped up? Do do they do they

realize that? I find I find that in in the information a era star, people are

less informed than they've ever been. Like you you have all the information right there in in front of you, but you

have to go and get it. So, no, they don't. All the kids want to do is dab. Yeah. But but that's that's something I think you should wave in front of

people's faces. Uh your name is Rory or Cory? I forget. Rory. Rory. Do you know his history with regards to being a

social engineer? I mean, seriously, not just because, you know, Rory's young, so that's a valid question. I'm 26 years

old, but I I was probably the first person that listened like did cassette tapes off the radio, but still I don't

give a [ __ ] about that. I'm asking a question. Do you know who this man is? [ __ ] what? [ __ ] what you did. I don't

give a [ __ ] Do you know who that is? This is why I love stories. This is why I love No, no. You don't love me. But do

you know who this is? Yes. I'm aware of who you understand. He's one of the original social engineers. He was one of

the first people on the internet. Yes. Okay. I just want to make sure. I don't wave it in front of people's faces star because I don't I don't don't care. But

I think you have to pop your collar to let people know and especially people of color because people of color

hate each other. They're they're they're ashamed of their their history and you have to sometimes

pop your collar and pull your dick out and let them know, hey, this is who the [ __ ] I am and this is what I pioneered

whether you like me or not. And I just wanted to get that across before we even Well, not if they like me or not. It's

not it's it's not. But I'm perfectly fine with that. Now, I I've I've uh I've

had the pleasure of sitting with Star on multiple occasions. Yeah, man. Um, my memory is really bad, but and we can't

talk about what was going on over there. But when you put the book out that station, we did that interview. We can

talk about anything. I don't Yeah, I don't give a [ __ ] But here here's the thing. I don't want to get anybody and indict it. No, no, no. And you know, the

the new generation today, they don't give a [ __ ] about yesterday year as as I

just said. So, it's not that Why is that? There's a lot of reasons and it's again, it's I have nothing to hide. There's

nothing that is, you know, off limits, but it would be a waste of my time and your time to sit here and talk about

that old [ __ ] I want to talk about the Olympics. Okay. Ryan Lock.

Typical Caucasian Marian Joseph that [ __ ] typical Caucasian cynical

condescending white boy who went to another country and tried to play his white card

and then and then alleged I'm going to say allegedly lied because there's a possible indictment going down right

now. And um he was not robbed. This [ __ ] was not robbed. You see he did the same [ __ ] if you ask me. Do you

remember a year or two ago there was a white boy from America? He went [ __ ] around in North Korea. He He took some

sign in in a hotel lobby and his ass is doing 15

years hardly. You know what I'm talking about? I think I remember that case. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I remember. Wait, he took a sign from a hotel lobby. He took

a sign. He just some some some joke as as you know, white American boys do, you know, just spazzing and bugging. Took a

sign out of the [ __ ] uh the hotel and they gave his ass 15 years on labor. Who

was his lawyer? Max Be's lawyer. Well, the thing is we're talking about, you know, that

condescending Caucasian attitude that can get you into trouble or get you to lie on people from from

other countries. And if you ask me, this is what happened with Ryan Locky. This [ __ ] is over 30 and he's still

dying his hair different colors. Come on. But with that, I do

love how forward the police were with that [ __ ] They said, "We're not rolling with y'all [ __ ] [ __ ] He not getting the privilege here." Well, as a professional

liar, cuz I'd like to think that I'm a pretty a pretty in my past anyway. I try to practice honesty today. But that was

just a bad lie from the RIP as soon as we heard and what was the lie? He said he got robbed at gunpoint. Gunpoint at

um He said his car got pulled over by fake cops and then they tried to rob him at gunpoint. [ __ ] the gun, put it to his

head. But at the root of his lying, if you ask me, and I'm being objective, not I'm not speaking from a man of color,

you know, who who's got an issue with, you know, a Caucasian person lying. At the root of of his

lie is his white arrogance. Well, that's the [ __ ] issue. He

thought he could go someplace and then say, "Oh, they robbed me at gunpoint." And there's video footage of him and his other swimming swimming buddies, you

know, an hour or two later, you know, with their [ __ ] watches, their cell phones, and their wallets.

Now, that's why it's a bad lie. Did this gentleman think that at the Olympics? First of all, when you're not at the

Olympics, everything is filmed. Well, that ties into the arrogance of it. Him thinking this is some third world

country that have cameras at a [ __ ] gas. You see, now Rory's got his white boy hat on. Come on. Talk that white boy

[ __ ] Come on now. Hey, let me let me tell you. Let me tell you. Come on, white boy. Come on, white boy. Talk that

[ __ ] Let me tell you about Rory and and Parks. Well, they are both very very very very very white. Absolutely.

They're not really white. It took my family years to get this white. Shut the [ __ ] up. This is SPF in in December. But

your white privilege was well on display when you was doing 70 down the street trying to get over here. And I'm scared

to death in the passenger seat. Like, yo, my [ __ ] you got to slow down. Oh, I ain't trying to get pulled over uh over here. Well, white privilege is a

buffet. I can pick and choose when I want to use it. Lucky you. Lucky you, boy. But anyway, so he so he did that.

There's a possible in indictment. Do we think he's getting indicted? I hope so. I hope so. It's the Olympics. How could

you not? How could you not? Well, he's back in the States now. Yeah. Get your [ __ ] swimming ass the [ __ ] out of uh

his two friends did not make it back to the States. They got pulled off. They pulled them [ __ ] off the plane. Now, I wonder if I wonder if they if they would

have made it, does he get away with this? Does he get away with the lie?

Because they But they turned coke quickly. They sniggas snatched them white boys off that plane and they

immediately got to the snitching. He might have been cool in his arrogance with the bad lie and all. We've seen a

lot of bad lies uh kind of go over Hillary just got off Oh, with the email [ __ ] Oh my god.

Jesus. Can I ask a question? You can ask me anything. Do you vote? This election? Yes. Is the answer. But

you vote? Yes. Okay. I I just say I ask you that because I mean there are rappers who talk that hot [ __ ] Oh yeah.

No. And musicians and artists. I'm not putting you in in a rapper category, but people that are on the front lines and

and they don't vote. This election I have a problem with that. This election is I like Talibi. I like him as a

person, but he doesn't vote. Is he a friend of yours? So wait. Talibi. Talibi

doesn't vote. Doesn't vote. I wouldn't know. Where do you think his music? Okay. Okay. Can we not ask the white boy cuz he don't know [ __ ] He's young. He's

Can Can we even turn his mic off for a second? Well, with all due respect, where do we get No, he doesn't vote. He

doesn't vote. Now, he said this. He doesn't vote. I'm only blown away by

that because I did follow him on Twitter. Yeah. And he seems to be like an activist, like a Mr. Political. He's

a good guy. He's a good guy, but he doesn't vote. he doesn't vote on a on a national

or local level. I just want to put that out there so that we can, you know, just set some type of, you know, parameters with regards to if if we're going to

talk about, you know, a political stuff. But but you you do vote and you are voting for the election coming. Well, I have to vote. I have to vote. I don't

know who the [ __ ] I I this is the most important election of my lifetime. So,

it's important not only that I vote, but my father has been telling me for for at least a year now to speak about it to

the young people on my on my platform. I'm voting for Trump, just in case you want to know. Are you? Yeah. Tell me

more. He's a He's a businessman. He's uncouf.

Um he's a businessman and we have to get the country back to running it like a business. If you ask me, Obama was um

very very charismatic. He he was smooth and uh he and I have very similar, you know, similarities with regards to being

biracial, having Caucasian mothers, but um uh it just it was a tough presidency for

him. I'm I'm not kicking dirt upon the man, but you know, Congress would not work with him. Oh, yeah. No. Not at all.

And and and I just got tired of seeing, you know, Michelle Obama with her mouth poked out, and I'm glad he's getting the

[ __ ] out of the White House. Did you vote for Obama? Do you mind? I did. Oh, you did? I did. Yeah. No, I did. I voted for John McCain and and Romney. I'm not

listening to nothing that you are saying right now. I'm dead serious. I'm still not listening. I don't care if you're

serious. Donald Trump, I don't I don't I don't know if they'll let him win. I don't even think the Republicans want him running, but there was nothing they

could do about it. I think the growth of the underclass and the hatred of America will catapult him into that White House.

I think that Hillary is not likable. Um she's a liar just like uh her husband

Bill Clinton was a liar and birds of a feather flock together. He lied right in politics. We Why are we calling anybody

in politics a liar? Yeah. But but when you lie right in into the [ __ ] camera, okay, to the American people and

say I did not have sexual relationships with that girl. That That's a boldfaced crackle lie. H Let me let me sit on

crack lie. Let me sit on that for a minute. I don't know if I can agree with that. I've looked plenty of [ __ ] in the face and said I didn't have sex with

that girl. Yeah, but we're talking about the commander-in-chief lying to the nation and that that type of [ __ ] should

have got him thrown the [ __ ] out of there. Now, I don't want to go too far back, but you know, Richard Nixon

resigned for far less. So, I don't like Hillary Clinton. She's not likable. Um,

and I just I hope she like Do you like Trump because you dislike Hillary a lot

or do you just like Trump? No. Trump is a businessman. As I just said, were you listening, White Boy? I just I was Yes.

I'm saying, are you more intrigued by him because of your decision? Do you vote white boy? I do. Yes, I vote. Okay. Who you voting for? Uh, I have not

decided yet. Oh, thank you. Okay. He's He's not sure. When you get sure, get back to me. I'm voting for Trump. Trump?

You don't. But this is what scares me about Trump. And I've said long He's a complete lunatic. I've said long ago

that say what you want about him, he's a businessman and a big problem in this

country. He's unstable. Yes. Yeah. So, I mean, Yeah. But Yeah. No, we that's on full display. I mean, I don't even think

that needs to be said. More more importantly than that, it the undertone of some of the things that he says

is scary to me. As a as as a [ __ ] in America, as a [ __ ] in America, I I I

think that I think he's trying to he's going to start a Civil War again. Possibly. Yeah,

possibly. Wait. So because he's a businessman,

because he's a businessman, it's okay. We should go to No, hang on. Because you see, somebody has to die for this this

beautiful lifestyle that we live in and this this country of capitalism. Yes. People people abroad have to die. You

say, but wait now. Women and children have to be I don't know if I can respect this from you cuz you're biracial. And oil is worth dying for. So [ __ ]

have to die for that oil. Yes, I agree. I agree. [ __ ] need to die. I'm with [ __ ] dying all day long. But I don't

know if I can respect it coming from you because you're biracial. So you wouldn't be the [ __ ] that's dying. I would be

the [ __ ] that's dying. Ain't no white in me know. Well, I did sign up for selective service back in the early ' 80s. So I'm not just talking that talk.

My father fought in World War II when he was 14 years of age in the US Navy. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's dope. Yeah. Still, you wouldn't be the [ __ ] dying. Well, I'm 52 years of age. I mean, I

can't join the military right now. But if if I had a son or a daughter and and they had to go fight for the country.

Yeah. Yeah. Go fight. Go fight for these [ __ ] See, when I say [ __ ] uh a [ __ ] dying, I'm not talking about going to fight for your country. I'm talking

about the undertone in which you speak. And yes, [ __ ] have to die to live here. Yes. And I'll even take it a step

further. I think we we we should we should um take people out of the prisons

and drop them off in Syria and other places and give them a one-way [ __ ] pass. say, I feel like that was

suggested at one point. Yes, many people have suggested. It's not an original thought, but you know, yeah, if you if

you're doing 25 years to life, we're going to give you uh, you know, a canteen, an M16,

400 rounds of [ __ ] ammunition. We're going to drop you off on a suicide mission. You can't come home. If you

come home, we're going to kill you. But we're going to drop you off, you know, o over in the east and and kill who you

got to kill and, you know, uh, fight for this [ __ ] So, let me ask you let me ask you this. I have to ask you

this. Would you consider yourself racist? I'm a biracial racist race

baiter. Yes. Okay. How did I Why am I my [ __ ] this is water wet? Water. That

was a really obvious question to be asked, but I have I have to ask it. I still have to ask it. I have to ask it.

I'm a biracial racist race baiter. They let So Barack let 15 [ __ ] or 15 people

out of uh Guantanamo Bay Guantanamo. Yeah. Why? And pardon my ignorance, but I because I've been swamped. Why were

they let out? Well, his original plan when he was uh running was to shut that whole [ __ ] down and then that got

blocked. So, he did what he could and let a couple people out. You know, this

is how great you are, Star. I never talk politics with people. I don't talk politics. There's some things that I

just don't talk about with people. Religion, uh, politics. I try to keep it

very because those are like once you get into people's beliefs those are touchy subject religion and politics. Yeah. But

are you mystified? I I can hear you. Are you mystified? Am I mystified? No. You

don't subscribe to the theory of God. Oh, is that what you meant? Yeah. Oh, okay. Yes. Oh, you do? Okay. Yes. You

fall a higher power. You fall down and you so to the unknown. No. No. See, you said that. You said that. You said that.

Well, that's what being mystified is. No, no, I don't. No, no. I don't fall down nowhere to do what I got to do. I be I walk I walk and talk to my higher

power. I I smoke a cigarette. I talk to mine at any point. I'm very spiritual.

I'm not religious. I don't care about what how you thought we got here. I don't I don't care about all of that. Well, spiritual means consumed by the

theory. You're under the spell. You don't I take it you are an atheist.

Totally. Yo, Star is such a unique man. How could you not be intrigued by I'm so

full of myself. There's no room for the theory of God. There's no room. Oh man, I don't even know if we have enough time

now to talk about all the [ __ ] I want to talk about with this [ __ ] Man, the reason why I don't have any kids is because I don't want to share my life

with some little life sucker. Okay. Now, at what point do you think

you became Oh, well, let me ask you first. Do you think that that is selfish

of you? There's virtue in selfishness. You haven't been in therapy? Never.

Okay. I'm very selfish with my life. I'm selfish with my dick when when it comes to females. I I don't sling free dick.

All right. I want to hear I want to hear more about that. I'm selfish. Oh, yeah. I don't sling free dick. Don't sling free dick. You You know, if I can just

go a step further since since we Please. No. I'm This is the best [ __ ] in the

universe right now. Since I brought up the theory of God. The theory of God.

God's a theory. It's a theory. a hell of a theory, but a theory nonetheless.

Um, you you know, uh, sometimes I have to pause and and and stop myself from

having so much fun. You know, sometimes people say, "Oh, how's how's life?" Life is a bowl of [ __ ] peaches. It always

has been. But there's times when I have to catch myself and say, "Hey, man, it's time to grow the [ __ ] up." Okay. Now, I

don't condemn anyone else for, you know, going through with marriage and and and procreating with kids and so on

and so forth. What are your thoughts on marriage? What's that? I want to know your thoughts on marriage, too. As long as a [ __ ] knows her place, we can get

married. We can get married. As long as a [ __ ]

knows They're all [ __ ] The one I What is her place? The one I came from is a [ __ ] They're all [ __ ] All

right. Tell I want to hear her place. Tell Tell me her place. Well, you see, that depends. If you are the ultimate

man, I do claim to be such. Well, you didn't have to. I think we gathered that

much from We ain't been recording much for about 5 minutes. I'm too full of myself for God. I think said that. Yeah.

This is This has been a very misogynistic podcast in the last two years. So, this is right up our realm.

Females are in seek of your last name, are they not? I'm not I'm not insem according to They're trying to

change that. Whatever. They're trying to change that. Whatever. The The women with money. No, they the women with

money, they want you. It doesn't matter how much money they get. They all they all have to lay down and receive the dick at some point. Yo, what the [ __ ]

You don't mean you know what what is why the why you're such a great conversationalist. No matter what you

say, you don't meet too many people who stand behind who not only who they are. Well,

first you don't meet too many people who are self-aware. Number one. Right. Right. who stand behind their beliefs

and will tell you exactly how they got there. So that's why you're you I think

you were getting ready to ask me if I'm not if I could be wrong how I came to be

an atheist. Was that where you were headed at at one point? No, I I thought that's what you were going to ask me.

Well, even if I wasn't, I do want to hear that. Okay. You you've been that your entire life. No. No. I was consumed

by the theory of God at one point. And when I first got to New York City 1981, I was a Times Square preacher. I used to

preach the word. See, I know the Bible very well. The Old Testament, the New Testament, the Quran, the Well, the New

Testament is [ __ ] Well, I I know. See, damn it. You're getting me, CL. I

don't want to talk about cuz then my beliefs will come out. The New Testament is a big croc of [ __ ] No disrespect

to anyone or disrespect to anyone. Well, I I wouldn't say it's a croc of [ __ ] it because if you find comfort

within the New Testament, that's not a bad thing. As long as you don't, you know, uh want to uh uh condemn my system

of living. I have no problem with you being Well, interesting. And damn, we

got to talk off. We me and you got to talk off off uh air. I'm interested to hear about your thoughts between the Old

Testament and the New Testament. But continue, please, cuz I want to hear. I was consumed by the theory of God. I

used to preach the word in Time Square. I used to call people heretics, whoreongers, and point them out and and

preach. I used to pass out uh uh Jesus pamphlets. So, you did subscribe to the

theory of God. Were your parents religious? Uh for the most part, yes. I was raised a Protestant. Okay. In the

beautiful suburbs. And um my rational awakening, that's what it was, a

rational awakening. Are you saying irrational awakening or irrational? Rational. Oh, rational. Okay. I'm sorry.

Rational. My rational awakening came toward the mid to late 80s. I had no no

there was no tragic moment that happened. There was nothing I didn't suffer. I someone didn't die and no just

I I woke up from the dream and that's how I became an atheist. I I

had to research and find things that um I felt were more uh realistic as opposed

to the folklore of the Bible or the uh the Quran or the Torah or the Hadith. When you say things that are more

realistic, I'm I'm interested in that. So with atheism, is is that more to the Big Bang theory? What exactly? Because

it's a broad thing to be an atheist. No, no, no, no, no, no. You just it's a rational position in life. You know, we

are mankind. I truly believe we will discover the origins of our uh

existence. But at this point in time, I'm not going to wave the flag and say, you know, uh

this is this and this is that. Okay. If you're a believer, the burden of proof is upon you. You're a believer. Yes. You

look like one. Yes. Yeah. Irish Catholic. Well, that's why you'll never lose your your your theory of God. Uh

you'll never lose it because we can't prove it. The believer can no more prove the

existence of a god, nor can the non-believer prove the non-existence of a god. So, we agreed to

disagree. Yeah, but you just said something that was real interesting that I wanted to touch on. Uh, more

realistic. More realistic. More realistic. More realistic. Okay. Oh, you said okay, that's what it was. Listen,

in the event that you are correct, right, and we find and and we find the origin of man, do you think that

information will be made public? You you think you think the common general

general public is is privy to that information? I I think we are very very much headed in that direction and um I I

truly believe that it will be something that we we we will have to face as a as a species at some point. Do we might

just end up being conspiracy YouTube video at the end of the day. Are things occurring are things occurring are things Well, you say you well you've

said a few times that I you believe we're heading that direction. So, are things occurring now that are making you feel that way? Well, we are discovering

more and more about the planet and the um the metaphysically given. That's what

this is. The metaphysically given. We're discovering more and more each day. How many years did the dinosaurs roam the

planet? I have not a clue. I'm asking the believer. I thought I didn't know [ __ ] I have no

idea the exact number. Well, now how can you believe in something if you don't even know the existence of dinosaurs?

Somebody on 125th yelled the same [ __ ] at me and then called me a white devil right after. No, no, no. I'm not yelling

[ __ ] I'm just ask your question and then we can move on because you when you discuss religion sometimes. Of course. Of course. Yeah. That's why we don't

really speak about religion on this uh podcast. 150 million years the dinosaurs

roamed. The dinosaurs roame this planet. That's a fact. So I can Google it. It's on Wikipedia.

You can do a lot more than Google it. 15 minutes. Yeah, it was there. That's a

long time. Hey, I'm moving to Atlanta if anyone gives a [ __ ] Why would you be moving to Atlanta? Uh because so much

money is being pumped into that place by way of television and media. Buy a house for [ __ ] a dollar out there. I'm not

going to buy property. Um I'm actually selling property in Pennsylvania, but I'm going there to set up a um a radio

network. We're going there to purchase a small AM station, which will be the first of of a couple stations. Um, but I

just I just want to point that out because so many people talk about moving to Atlanta, but they're going there for different reasons. More Well, all the

old New York drug dealers are in Atlanta. If you've ever murdered somebody in New York, you're in Atlanta.

Um, who else is in Atlanta? A bunch of the stripper hoes uh moved to Atlanta. A

lot of warrants. So it's very cle it's very cliche in Atlanta. It used to be a

lot of those people you just mentioned got turned out and are back in New in New York and New

Jersey. A lot of those people couldn't make the shift and a big shift has

happened. When's the last time you've been there? You go to Um I went to Atlanta. I I took an acting class in

Atlanta or I had an audition in Atlanta. I want to say five months ago. Okay. I

wasn't there very long. I flew in for my audition. Media wise popping. Now, now I

myself, I'm not going there to [ __ ] with any New York, you know, stragglers down there. I'm I'm very I'm very anti New

York. When I get to Atlanta, I'm going there to be a part of of of the business that is booming. It It's booming like a

[ __ ] Now, all all of that, you know, trying to be on reality TV and, you know, rappers in their 50s trying to

revive their careers, all that [ __ ] is not popping. That's not happening. Yeah. I think a lot of the I think a lot of

people moved to Atlanta with with those expectations, those dreams and you know,

but but to your to your point, they're calling they were calling at one point uh Atlanta, what was it? Black Hollywood. Hollywood. Yeah. Yeah.

There's a lot of money being pumped into that town and I'm excited to head down there. I'm moving my entire operation down there. I'm leaving Pennsylvania. Um

and um I'm excited about it. You should be. Yeah. first of all to to start anything es especially with with your

and I'm not going to talk about your past but you can I'm cool nobody let's

go you don't let everybody do that [ __ ] let's go well my some of my thoughts about star's past is not really about

star so I I don't want to talk about it but okay it's well documented stars

I don't I'm not even going to say ascension because I I don't I don't remember Impact. Impact. Yes. Yes. I

wish that Impact was still prominent today. I hate I hate radio. I I listen

to sports talk radio. Okay. That that's what I listen to. I'm really big into sports. I don't know why Luc Loose Cannon is here with stars. Uh but he's

and he says he's into sports, but he doesn't really talk about baseball. I don't understand that. But we'll speak at another time. I get it. It's long.

It's boring. We'll get to that later. But he's I'm very proud of my impact with regards to urban media.

And I'm flattered that people still till this day reach out to me about things

that I I I educated them on. Well, it was an error. It was it was a it was it

was an error that a lot of people are aware of. Um where's where's uh I think

I asked you this last time I saw you. Buck Wild. Yeah, I asked you that last time I saw you as well. Buck is uh he

lives in jail and that was the answer last time. He comes out to hang out with us every once

in a while. He spends his weekends in jail now. Okay. But but Buck Wild is my main [ __ ]

on the trigger. There will always be a star in Buckwe. Who are you bringing with you uh to Atlanta to start to uh

start your business? I I have a small team. Um because I'm I'm doing different

media projects. It's it's not anybody that you would probably know and I'm

very excited that I have a new team because you have to have fresh minds. Yes. fresh ideas uh and a fresh

perspective. I don't want to I I don't care if I know them or not. I'm more concerned with how excited you are about

their talent level. Well, I I I've been talked into

uh uh the Atlanta move and and then I had to see it for myself because for the last maybe 17 years I I detested

Atlanta. I was like, "Oh man, [ __ ] all them New York [ __ ] down there and them ratchet [ __ ] going down there trying to strip and yada yada yada." And um you

know when I started to to to investigate the uh uh the influx of money that's

being poured into that goddamn place, I had no choice but to acknowledge it. So So So my team is a very young team,

people under 30. Are they based in Atlanta or you bringing them? No, no, I'm bringing two people with me and um

uh Buckw will more than likely come with me. Okay. He knows too much. I either

have to bring him along or kill him. So, so he he'll be involved in in some way, shape, or form. The parole board

will let that happen. Uh, I don't necessarily know if we're going to do anything Starring Buck Wild

related. U, but, um, it it's a new it's a new journey that I'm I'm

excited about. Now, when you get there, Yeah. and and this is another reason that that I've always loved you. So, I'm

I'm very unapologetic about who I am, okay? Um, it just is what it is. You you

take it or leave it. If you leave, I don't really give two shits anyway. So, uh, I get that. I've always gotten that

from you as well. When you get there in this different position, right?

Will we see a more toned down star? Because your seat, you're you're wearing a different hat. Well, you're going to

be on air. I'm You would have to be on air even though it's your [ __ ] Well, you see, I grew

up aspiring to be a businessman. That's it.

So, so all of this media stuff that you guys know me as or by way of that's

cool, but that's just one secondary. Well, it's it's one dimension of who I am. I' I've been eating high up off the

hoe for a lot of years. I I I I do very well in Pennsylvania. I would never say what it is that I do in Pennsylvania,

but um you know, before you guys, and when I say you guys, I'm talking about the the the the urban audience. before

you even heard of me. Um, I was making business moves behind the scenes that

were very productive, lucrative, and nothing entailed, you

know, controversy, so to speak. But but but, you know, um, you know, wearing a different hat is is is is nothing to me.

I mean, if if I told you what I did right now in Pennsylvania, you you'd probably be shocked. But but, uh, I I I

run two companies. Well, for me to to me, you're a genius. I wouldn't be shocked. What I'm saying is though, like

we we were mic checking in here. Let me tell the audience. We were mic we were mic checking in here because it took a [ __ ] hour to [ __ ] set up and and

really Hey Pat, wherever you at in there, I never want I never want to come in here and wait an hour. I don't. This

has to be set up. You I beat Joe Button to the studio today, folks. Go ahead. Yeah, you were Star was on time and then I was a little late and then we sat here

for an hour [ __ ] doing absolutely nothing. But outside of that, um, we were mic checking and as soon as I heard

Star's voice, he said, "Mike check, mic check." I said, "Yep, yep. That's that's that's that's it." So, while I don't

doubt the other hats, you can't ignore you can't you can't ignore your on air.

What is it? What is it? Not controversy. Cuz I think you're way more layered than controversy. Yeah. Uh, yeah. Your on air

personic. Yeah. Well, I am who I am. I'm not a radio personality. I'm I'm not a

comedian. That's why I don't think it's controversy, right? Like me, people say

um well, people say a lot of things about me. Uh but people say what what they're saying now is that I'm an

attention [ __ ] And in my head, I always laugh because I hate attention.

If people knew me, I'm so introverted. I just get attention. So, I don't think uh

I never thought you were controversial, but you just caused controversy for whatever. Well, I'm from just like Rory

asked me when we first met if I was from Brooklyn. That's what you said. Mhm. And I said, "Fuck no, I'm from New Jersey,

the beautiful suburbs, Scotch Plains, and and and I am which is a beautiful suburb." Yeah. Yeah. For people that

don't know about New Jersey, I'm proud of my my mother and father, how they put it down and the private schools they sent me to. I actually broke my my

parents' heart when when I didn't go to college. So, I am who I am

and how I speak, what I speak about, and the way I speak is is that that's that's just me. Now, that may work in certain

circles. In some some circles it may not, but I'm not going to denounce who I

am and how I think and how I uh communicate. I was born in 64. I'm I'm proud of my

age. Yeah. No, age is something to be proud of. I'm proud of my age. People are People are dying [ __ ] daily. So

age is something to be proud. Yeah. When the young people keep calling me a old [ __ ] I'll be 36 at the end of the month. August 31st. I I'm I'm excited to

tell people how old sometimes I exaggerate and say I'm 56. Yeah. And like that's not an insult young people

that you owe. Hopefully it's not hopefully y'all will get there one day as well. Yeah. And we'll show you how to

do this. So So to go back to what you asked me about wearing different hats, you know that that that's just business,

man. That that that's just business. I I came here, you know, again, early '8s

and I I I was never a student of radio. I didn't know anything about, you know, uh the only thing I knew about radio was

that my older brother listened to a guy by the name of Frankie Crocker growing up. Frankie Crocker and I and I I

listened to a guy named Paco from Disco92 WKTU back in those days before this. I'm not familiar. Yeah. Yeah.

Paco. This is Paco, baby. So that was my only radio um um knowledge. But I was

more interested in uh David Sarnoff. You ever heard that name? Yes. Okay. I was more interested in his journey and and

running a business. So again, so to answer your question, uh, Atlanta, I'm looking forward to

being a businessman, not necessarily being on the microphone leading some

type of [ __ ] outspoken radio, you know, uh, uh, uh,

journey. I'm I'm actually going to be incorporating other people to do things

that I'm going to to need them to do by way of purchasing radio stations.

When do when is this happening? I need I need to keep my eye on on all of these things. I got one more piece of property

to sell in Pennsylvania. So hopefully I can get the [ __ ] out of here in the next three months.

I hope you can make the uh the the adjustment. One of the reasons that I I just don't leave.

Love the South. Well, I I love the South as well. Big big adjustment PA to

Atlanta though. Not necessarily. You see in PA I live in the mountains. I I'm an

organic farmer. So So moving to the south is that that's not any any big

transition. I don't you know and this is I know Atlanta's the south, but I'm see

my family's from South Carolina. Okay. So Atlanta's just the city to me. It's the city. Well, yeah. I mean, if if

you're in the that lifestyle, if you're hanging down on Peter Street, if if you're out there, you know, doing all all that, you know, turn up after night,

but I'm I'm going down there to handle business and to, you know, to to possibly Mac, a 400 lb white [ __ ] You

like big [ __ ] Big [ __ ] know how to keep their man uh uh you know, pleased. I'll just They

got all types of big [ __ ] myths. Big bone [ __ ] I'm not rolling with all of the Hey, let me be very clear. I

don't believe all of the big [ __ ] myths the same way I don't believe all of the skinny [ __ ] uh myths that they oh

skinny [ __ ] got divas [ __ ] you ain't uh measuring [ __ ] I'll take a skinny [ __ ] but as long as they know off the

top I don't I don't pay for mannies and petties as long as we as long as we understand that wait now so we can rock

so wait fat [ __ ] don't get mannies and petties I I don't pay for them oh you gonna pay for them at that when you

go to Atlanta and get that [ __ ] thing you ain't gonna talk business [ __ ] on your own [ __ ] and you ain't gonna pay for paid for Manny and a petty so what

do you do to [Laughter] Well, how do you court? How does Star Court? I want to hear about it. Tell me.

Do you court? Yes. Yes. I I I consider myself to be a um

compassionate, understanding gentleman.

[ __ ] don't care about that. That ain't courting today. Well, well, see, I don't No, I I I don't really intertwine

with a lot of [ __ ] in terms of, you know, my close network, even though they are they are

all [ __ ] you know, but but in terms of, you know, the ones that I let really really get close close to me, they have

to be uh more cut from the lady cloth as opposed to the ratchet, you know, uh

loudmouth [ __ ] type. Yeah. Are are we listening to any music currently?

Anything? I hate everything damn near. I don't listen to hip-hop too much though.

That that's just just me. I've never been a a hip-hop condo. I know. And I

say that respectfully. No, I know. Um I I I I can say that, you know, I was

[ __ ] with um Kirk Oangs. Kirk Oang Drinking My Cup. I like that

song. I like Soulja Boy. I I think Soulja Boy is a great businessman along with being a decent rapper. Spit that

rap. Spit the line. I saw Soulja Boy when my uh when my lady made me watch uh

Love and Hip Hop Hollywood. I've never seen one episode of Love and Hip Hop

Hollywood ever. Ever. Let me just be on the record. I know I was on the show so people might think I watched that show.

I've never seen that show. So I Soulja Boy is on the show. Wait, a lot of people on that show. Soulja Boy. This is

the one that just came out last week. Yes, Ray J is on that show. Uh, Soulja Boy, Lil Fizz. Yes. And I like him.

Wait, I like Lil Fizz on that show. He sounds so sensible. And I'm like, wait,

why am I agreeing with Little Fizz? I feel a way. Uh, he was great. Wait,

Fetty [ __ ] is on this. Oh,

wait. Now you're not doing reality TV and more. No. Okay. Okay. No, no, no. I did reality television. Who was on that

show? What' you say? I had no idea Fetty Wy. That kind of breaks my heart. And that's how I don't think he needs that.

Lil Fizz whose real name is Drew. I think he just moved back in with his baby's mama. The hater misses nothing.

Okay. Yes. Good for him. He told that Nikki [ __ ] And I feel kind of bad cuz I was just hanging out with the Nikki

[ __ ] I didn't agree with nothing. She Hey, that wasn't me. Was hanging out with you cuz Fizz moved in with the baby mother. I felt Fizz on that. I don't

know why Fetty [ __ ] is on that show. I'm a little confused about that. Now wait a minute. No, I'm not. Cuz we've been

documenting Fetty Wap on this podcast for quite some time. And I said, I'm a

little worried about what's about to happen with him after this run. I felt like Kevin Laos and and the good folk

over there at 300 were milking the cow for everything they could get out of Fetty Wap. And I felt like it was going

to be tough. From uh Def Jam. Yes. Okay. He's still in the game. Yeah. Him and uh Leor have a company called 300. And and

that's what who Fetty [ __ ] had all of his success with. That's right. I'm sorry. Because Kevin was or is managing Well,

he's managing songs. He was with Sean and Jeezy, but now just with Trey, but

but 300 uh they had Migos. Migos. They're no longer there, right?

From my understanding, they still are. Um they they have young because Leo because Leor put out a quote that said Migos is still signed to 300. Leor knows

how to play. Can I go to Can I go totally left for a second? I love Left. Do you know Deb Antne? That name sounds

very familiar. Come on. Debtne Walker's mother. Yes. Do you know her? I know.

I've never met her. Okay. I've never met her. No.

I'm trying to holler at her. What? Why? I'm as serious as colon

cancer. Okay. But why? For a business? You trying to bring her to the station? No, no, no, no. I'm trying to Queen's

Ledger. Trying to holler. Trying to holler at She's Atlanta based now from Flocka with all due respect. Well, he

did clearly did his homework on Atlanta, so you know. No, no. This has nothing to do with television or anything. I've been

trying to holler for about a year and she she she doesn't take my text messages anymore. I I think I got What

was the last text that you sent? Can you hang the second one? Go ahead, sir. I think I got I got a little salty one night and I was drunk texting her and

she may may have either blocked my number and I just want to know if you knew her. Oh no, I don't I don't have a

way a means of communication with her. You know, this is what you know Walker.

Yeah. I think he might have changed his number though since the last time I tried to uh I'm trying to holler at

Deanie. Uh well, she's on Twitter, right? I'm

blocked. Well, hey, but when you block somebody's number, Joe. Joe, I'm I'm I'm not bullshitting. No, I believe you.

She's got some pretty [ __ ] eyes. I mean, I'm old school. And I hate to use that term. I was in Atlanta a couple

months ago trying to holler at her. I said, "Hey, I'm at the Marriott downtown. Can we have coffee?" Nothing.

See, that's how he courts. See that? That's kind of one of my lines on the low. Coffee, ice cream, and pizza.

Women, if you I don't trust it. I just want to put that out there since we're having a real conversation tonight. And if she listens, if you're out there she

No, she's not [ __ ] with me. She made that clear. But I just want to see if if you had some type of Oh, wait. So, she made that clear. Wait, you left that

part out of the story. You all I heard was she stopped returning texts. No, she didn't say, you know, [ __ ] out of here.

But, but I'm I'm That's what I'm getting. You know, I we we can move on. I just want to, you know, put myself out

there for a second. Be vulnerable. And I'm I'm just I'm I'm real like that. So what if Deb Anthony said, "You know

what, Star? Check this out. You don't pay for Manny's and petties.

I'm not really [ __ ] with a [ __ ] Never will. I'm not [ __ ] with a [ __ ] that's not paying for Manny and Petty. She She can pay for her own mannies and

petties." But um yeah, Deb is doing well for herself. That's not even what this is about. No, I know. No, no. I I I like

her her her persona. I like aggressive business women. She comes off that way.

I I love that about her. That's attractive. Her personality does pop off of the screen. But wait, Deb is on

uh the Atlanta. I I haven't seen that one. I don't even want to talk about what she's on television because that's

not what this is about. This is this is some other [ __ ] So, we can move on. I just I just want to know if she's still

there. I I don't even know. She is still there, right? I'm not sure. I didn't watch her last season, but she was on prior to that. Hey, can I ask you a

question? You can ask me anything. anything in a while.

Will you be responding to Mickey Fax? You know what? I I want to I want to.

Please do. I want to. Please do. Just to let him know he can't tie my [ __ ] shoe. We We can't have doggies running.

Just to let him know just to smack him around and put him in his [ __ ] place

because he pulled out the camera cuz I'm cuz I'm in his I liked it. I did. I did. It was fire, man. I'm going to tear that

boy up. He better leave me alone. Please put that dark in his place because he's he was talking reckless about light-skinned [ __ ] and their feelings.

Yeah. Hey, I I was like, "Whoa, whoa." See, but my thing with Mickey Fax, this is why I don't really respect it. This

is why I don't really really respect. And I'm not never going to pull the uh status card cuz that's whack. But why is

he doing that? Why? That's why I'm shocked, [ __ ] Why? Where' this come

from? That's And that's why I feel like I I would need to know more. I would like to know why he did that. It's it's

the dark-kinned hate that that that is within him and most [ __ ] towards light-skinned cats like

oursel. You you have to give him Mickey facts is a credible MC. Yeah. He's an

above average MC. You have to give him some balls. Can we start the official countdown to Joe Buddy? No. No. You

Mickey Mickey Mickey baby baby baby. You're not important enough to get a countdown. We're not we're not counting

down to Mickey fax this. I'm just not living I don't have to live that way today. But I and I told him I was going

to respond. Yeah, you have to. And he keeps [ __ ] he's tweeting me tweeting me. Hey yo, we still waiting. Like oh

god, life has been occurring and I've been very very busy. So I haven't done any new rapping since Mickey has dissed

me or I was busy dissing somebody else. But now that that's over with, the second I get back in a

studio, Mickey Fax is too easy of like a target. Please make it all personals. Please.

Yo, you you we'll we'll see what happens. I don't I don't want Mickey Fax to be listening because some blog is

going to pick this up. I'm I'm going to tell him tomorrow. I sat down with Joe Buns and him coming

for your black ass. No, I did. I DM'd him and I told him that, "Hey, you better be careful cuz you going to get

your ass kicked as soon as I go on Twitter tonight and say, "Hey, I just sat down with Joe button. He's coming for you, Dorky." I [ __ ] with Mickey

Facts and I and I [ __ ] with and I'm I'm again, I'm from a different generation, so I [ __ ] with competitive rapping. I'm

not with everybody being friends and unified and and so I'm all for and and I

don't and I like Mickey Fax and that's my man. I have no [ __ ] that like and [ __ ] Please light his ass up. Well,

that's that's what I'm getting to. I could I have no problem liking and respecting and acknowledging an MC's

skill set and tearing them the [ __ ] up. I have no problem doing that. He he was holding that [ __ ] inside for quite some

time. You You can hear it. Oh, Mickey is going to get [ __ ] killed.

Rory, what's going on with you, man? You're from Hollis, Queens. Yes, sir. Okay.

I was waiting for me to uh speak again. I'm sorry, Star. No, I just I had I had to fill you out, man, to see if you really had anything to bring to the

microphone or whether you just, you know, bump your gums. Here's the thing. I I am of the belief that shutting the [ __ ] up sometimes is a lost art. And I

think two great people were speaking and I wanted to let that rock. They want to interrupt with something that I didn't

really have anything to Are you a producer, rapper, or anything, or what? No, I'm not a rapper at all. I worked in the uh Oh my god. Are you I got a 16.

Ready? No. You look like Mac. Uh, who is that guy? You look like Mac Miller. Mac Miller. It's a Yeah, I guess. Like Mac

Miller. Uh, no, I wouldn't say. I I grew up in the hip-hop community and I think

I give back just as much as I take. I I was just bullshitting because hip-hop's not a culture number one and and and No,

no. Number two, you you're more hip-hop than I am. So, I was I was just [ __ ] with you. But, um, it's fine. I just wanted to answer the question directly.

Have been exchanged. Yeah, you have been kind of quiet. Well, no. Again, back to my point of shutting the [ __ ] up is

underrated sometimes. And I think there was something great going on between the two of you and I'm probably I'll humbly say the least most important person in

this conversation that people want to hear right now. A lot of respect for this man even though he's not a Jew. Um

if you were Jew you well that's another story. Anyway, Irish Catholic opposite of it. He's been reaching out to me and

again I do appreciate you being so patient. I wanted to come here, you know, two months ago and and and and chop it up with Joe. But um again, I

thank you for being patient and persistent and um you know, just want to say something. Of course, this was something that I wanted to see happen,

not more for me, but for the two of y'all to sit down and speak, cuz I think that's something that our listeners want. Another question for you if you

don't mind. I love questions. Are you and Cameron cool?

Cool. What's cool? Cool is relative. There's rapper. Yeah, there's rappers. Are there any issues? No. No. No issues.

Are you and Jiss? Yeah. Cool. Yeah. No issues. I don't have I don't have issues with anybody. If anybody has an issue

with me, then that's some [ __ ] that's inside of them. Might I make a suggestion? just my crazy offbeat. I

want to hear it. You, Cameron, and Jada Kiss in the

studio. I reached out to Cam. Uh, I was doing my Else Quarter

mixtape. This was in 200 I want to say 11 or 12. Okay. And I reached out to

Cam. It's 2016 now. Yeah. But how active is Cam uh rapping? Cam was just spitting

some crazy heat on Instagram. Crazy. I don't know if I follow Cam on I do follow Cam on Instagram. I'm sure it's a

great follow. Crazy. No, I do follow him on Instagram. Great follow on Instagram, but I I'm not really I haven't been on Instagram. Well, if I can just again if

I can just say this because you see hip hop sadly is um filled with disposable

heroes and good term. Yes. Sadly, sadly. And a lot of young people don't necessarily look towards the

architects for guidance. And I just think that you, Killer, Cam, and

Jedakus, I think that all three of you guys are top 10 best that have ever done it. Thank you. That are alive. And the

same way, you know, rock and roll legends get together and make, you know, classic albums. Not saying you guys have to make a [ __ ] album, but you know,

just I I would like to hear that. Cam and Kiss. Kill Cam and Jada Kiss. just

spit some heat on three tracks. I think that would be f I think that that would give New York or the New York tri-state

area something to really appreciate because it's like, you know, you you all three of you guys still in my opinion uh

and I'm sure in the opinion of many others are I would I would love to I I

love the best who have ever done it and and I'm nobody's [ __ ] fan. I'm saying that to you to your face. I think you

guys Yeah. if you find the time. If not, you know, just to to follow up on his point, when you're done moving, uh to

follow up on his point, I think hip-hop's the only genre where consistency is not championed. I think

every other genre consistency is admired, especially within rock and roll with all these reunion tours and people

coming out of their way to fill these stadiums. I mean, [ __ ] you ain't had a hit in 5 years, [ __ ] you. That's the

mentality of hip-hop, unfortunately. Sadly, bunch of fickle [ __ ] So, I I do think we would love if you, Cam,

and Jada got on the record, but I guarantee it would be [ __ ] everyone born after Biggie died saying, "Why are

these old [ __ ] still trying to stay relevant?" That word is really I keep hearing that word lately. Relevant.

It's relevant. Irrelevant. I'm again, I'm on the side of the music. I wouldn't give a [ __ ] if if uh if none of these

gentrified Brooklyn kids like that song. Uh I just do [ __ ] because Cam's amazing

MC. Kiss is amazing MC. Kiss would do that. Kiss would do that. I know Kiss is supposed to be working on a project with

Fab right now. And again, if Cam is active, if Cam is active, then that can

happen. He's active. He's active. Does he have something coming?

Cam is active. Can we just go with that? You see, can we just keep it there? Let's not try to get more information

out. Let's Let's not try and push it into an area where he might be offended by what you're saying. No, no, no. Cam's

not sensitive. See, I don't get along with sensitive people. Okay. Okay. I I'm I'm will Anybody who is sensitive I I it

just doesn't work well. Cam's not sensitive. You Cam and Jiss, you know what you would call it? Not Not that you would want my my opinion. We wouldn't

want your opinion on titling. Okay. Not on titling. I I'll shut up. Your ANR work at this point is finished. What we

could put it through was Atlantic Network. It would be great. Are you familiar with the Manhattan Project?

No. Google that white boy. The Manhattan Project. I will Google it. Let's you and

I talk and then I want him to read what the Manhattan Project was because it it's I think it it would play in. But

anyway, does Wikipedia have a quick thing? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. Give him a second there. Let's see how fast this white boy is. Hey, let me Hey, let

me tell you something. If that Star's uh angle that he's going for for a title, I don't know what it is. You got it. Uh

the project was a research and development project that produced the first nuclear weapons during World War

II. It was led by the United States with support of the United Kingdom and Canada. From 1942 to 1946, the project

was under direction of the US Army Corpse and a bunch of physicists of names I cannot pronounce. Yeah. These

are the men who sat around and thought of the nuclear bombs and created the bombs. That's all. Anyway, let's move

on, man. Hey, um that's pretty [ __ ] dope. I like that. I think so. See, see how stupid it say? That's why you say

you should never tell people to shut up. You shouldn't. I like that as a title. I do. We'll get to that. Hey, Cam. Call

me. Hey, Cam. Have your Have your people call my people. No, I would never do that to Cam. I have way too much respect

to ever talk to Cam like that. He was riding down to FDR recently and he was spitting some crazy [ __ ] I said, "Whoa,

whoa." I I had to I had to wake up and [ __ ] you know, just get a cup of [ __ ] coffee and and and that night I

did a show uh Cameron top 10 greatest dead or alive. Well, Star, I' I say all

the time, the the MC's will it's like having a jump shot. The MC's will always

be able to MC. So Cam, you know, I I keep saying is he active, but it don't

[ __ ] matter. I can I cannot write a rap for 5 years and when I sit down and

write one, it's like riding it's like riding a bike a bike. So, I'd love to hear that from him. Okay. Anything else

you want to ask me? Because my bedtime is 11:30. What time is it? It's 10:00. Oh, yeah. I I got more time. I just

want, you know, just make sure. No, I didn't know what time it was. It's 10 p.m. Television all. Uh, more internet

than television. H Yeah, I'm I'm I'm a crazy internet surfer, you know. Uh um give me some of

your give me some of your favorite favorite uh sites that you surf. Uh mainly philosophy, religion,

history. Um I I do a lot of pop culture stuff as well, but um more I I do more

research with regards to American history because I I I constantly think that um where we're headed is somewhere

very unique. So I I want to have an understanding of where we've been. I've said that a lot, too. where we're

uh we got to look at where we've been to know where we're going. I would like to know some of those uh American history.

I'd like to do some of that same research you did so I can be well verssed in that information cuz I would like to talk about some of those beliefs

that you have at some point. Okay. Not on air. I'm I'm not doing that on air.

Okay. So, all right. So, we don't watch TV. We don't care too much about music. I mean, in the morning I watch

um CNN, MSNBC, HLN. I I bounce back and forth.

Um but I more so do internet research by way of you know news and whether it be

Reuters or AP or something like that. Um I like everybody else I have to have my news fast. Yeah. Which is uh which is

why the internet is so great. Yeah. The internet [ __ ] TV is getting [ __ ] from the [ __ ] I also do a lot of you know um

um um you know obscure websites with regards to news. I don't just do the the mainstream stuff because of course

everything there is contrived and 100% mainstream. I like BBC because I

feel it's a bit more objective than an American news uh network. So I try not

to believe any of that. I try not to believe any of that [ __ ] it is contrived. I again I don't want to talk

about my belief. But but I'm a heavy internet um um surfer or or as you guys like to say

troll, you know. Um, that word, that word is becoming very popular. It has been. It has been since

when? No. No. It's becoming popular to be a troll. Okay. That's I'll buy it. I'll buy it.

Well, if you ask me, I'm I'm one of your earliest trolls. Uh, but but I call it objective hating. You guys call it

trolling. Um, so I have no problem with, you know, uh, I don't know if there's very much objective in the trolls now,

though. I would agree with what Yeah, I don't know if there's much being objective there. I think it's just trying to grab

more attention. And I think it's a very sick I think it's sick that people are sitting at their computers and at their

phones thinking that it's s like a satisfaction to get a reply from somebody. It's a very sick way to think.

I want to talk about somebody who I vow to never talk about. Uh oh. Uh oh. And I

I wonder if there's a way I can say his name. Africa. Saying it. No, not Africa Bambada. I'll say so uh

there's a there's a letter running around uh that was written to DJ Vlad.

Okay. Okay. I know what you're talking and this is from Help Me here. Whose

brother wrote this? Who? I believe it was his uncle. Uh Bankroll Fresh. Bankroll Fresh wrote it was his uncle

that wrote the letter to Vlad. Okay. Okay. And I mean what was it? Two It was two

pages. It was very well written. Okay. whoever wrote it. And the point was I

think what was he calling him a culture vulture? But he was saying how could you just you're just not a journalist and you just have you're just exploiting and

just it was I almost I think more or less what he was saying was you put people on that couch for clickbait not

the truth because you didn't go for both sides. You grabbed a gentleman that had clickbait material coming out of his

mouth and then did not reach out to any of us to get our side of the story on an ongoing case. So now is that

trolling not the letter? I think I'm talking about what homeboy does. I think clickbait and trolling are in the same

group. You talking about Vlad? Yes. Okay. I know Vlad very well. [ __ ] Vlad.

I hate Vlad, by the way. Well, I don't I No, I asked I didn't ask you if you know

Vlad. I asked you if I don't care if you I don't [ __ ] Vlad. Let me be very clear.

But is what he does considered trolling? Do you think he's trolling? You know

him. Do Tell me about you defend this [ __ ] [ __ ] he does.

Vlad is one of my main [ __ ] on the trip. You're bringing Vlad to Atlanta. Oh,

man. Can you hold on a second? What the [ __ ] Vlad is one of my main and and and

and and Vlad doesn't use the N word, by the way, but but I I call him one I I call him sometimes one of my main

wiggers on the trigger, but in reality, Vlad loves hiphop. He knows hip hop. He

is hip hop. What? What? DJ Vlad, you're not gonna troll me on my own [ __ ]

podcast. You're not gonna troll me on my DJ. I'd like to hear his voice. If you

ask me, I think Vlad uses very good judgment at times. He can be sensitive.

He can also be arrogant. But he does hear people out.

There's a lot of [ __ ] that he doesn't put up on Vlad TV that you don't know about. There's a lot of people who come to him wanting to snitch and wanting to

to to do [ __ ] that is totally foul that would cause

lawsuits and he pumps the brakes. He has conference calls with his staff. He uses

he uses what I consider to be good judgment. Now, I don't how many how in

in what percentage of the time? I think because you acknowledge that he

doesn't always. Well, I I think he he uses good judgment more than not.

Okay. So, I I don't have to critique his website to say, you know, oh, this percentage of of not caring. I don't

think Vlad is a culture vulture at all. I I think maybe he he might be misunderstood or misperceived by some,

but if you look at Vlad TV, why get mad at him? Why not get mad

at some of the other pioneers of hip hop who have not started [ __ ] websites?

Why is KS1 running around still calling himself a [ __ ] prophet, but he doesn't have a

platform, a social media platform that equals up to [ __ ] Does KRS1 need a

social media platform? He most certainly should have one. Not what I asked you. Does he need one? Yes, he needs one.

Tell me why. You're calling yourself the teacher. You're calling yourself the pro a

prophet. He's called himself these things well before there was a social media. And that's what that's the reason

why he should stay. Oh, because he's not teaching. Exactly. And on social media and there's

many others. Don't get don't get mad at the guy who has taken the reigns of

something and encompassed it. I [ __ ] with Vlad heavy. I love Vlad. Hang on.

Hang on. Hang on. I I love Vlad TV. I I [ __ ] with Q. He have Q and I have never

met, but I love World Star. I love that site. I wish I had started that [ __ ]

site. We all wish that we started World Star. Well, I do anyway. World Star is great. Um, and there's many other sites.

There's many other people that have taken the range of hip-hop, if you will,

the genre, not not a culture, centralized it, and capitalize on it.

And they they use again what I consider to be good good judgment in certain areas that we will never know the

intricate details. I I could I won't give you the names, but there's a couple of famous drug dealers from from the New

York tri-state area that I know personally reached out to Vlad that wanted to go to him with paperwork.

These old [ __ ] who used to be that [ __ ] back in the 80s and 90s.

Mhm. And they want to snitch now. They want to

snitch and I'm not going to give you a name, but but I I've seen the paperwork

and Vlad has asked me, "Hey, man, what should I do with this?" And I say, "Hey, stay away from that, man." So So he does

ask other people's opinion. He he just doesn't do something, you know, throw it out there and and and to see what what

sticks. He uses what I consider to be good judgment. And so he's not trolling.

That's almost disappointing to hear back. Hang on. Hang on. I didn't say he's not. Yeah, but but everybody

trolls. I don't. Sure you do. Tell me when. Somebody tell me when. Well, first of all, before you do that, tell me the

definition of trolling. Exactly. Tell me the definition of troll first. If if you pay attention to certain things by way

of social media, then to some degree, you could be trolling. And as I said when we first sat down, you are one of

the early social engineers.

That's But that's not trolling. If if you were utilizing the platform, I'm not saying that uh you you were engineering

before Love and Hip Hop came about. You were you were filming yourself and Tahiri. Yes. I remember the episode

about your [ __ ] thumb. Yes. Then nobody liked that episode. I thought it was very informative. Well, maybe cuz I

was scared as a [ __ ] I had some [ __ ] oozing out of my finger. My thumb already looks like a piece of [ __ ] Yeah. And and when have you ever seen a

rapper just go to the [ __ ] doctor? And but you know, and again, I don't have to sit here and defend Vlad. But

no, we offer him now. I just want to talk about trolling. Okay. What is the definition of trolling? Everyone pays

attention to something on the internet. Everyone, so if you want to call it troll, I don't call it trolling. I call

it being objective myself. Even though we have more people now that are more more hateful than the KKK [ __ ]

that are hiding behind fake AVI or or pictures and doing some of the most racist [ __ ] you know. Um, everybody to

some degree is trolling. But you can't hate Vlad because he'll take somebody's [ __ ] Twitter comments and and make a

story off of it. Why? Why' you hate Why would you hate that? Well, I don't think All right. See? All right. So, that's a

good place to start because we we have two different definitions. Page views per user. That's what he taught

me. Page views per user. And those are the things that, you

know, if you're going to be in this this social media game, you have to

understand. Okay. But you what you just said and

what trolling or my understanding of trolling is a bit different now. So, let

me make sure I understand my understanding of trolling first. What's your understanding of trolling?

Trolling would be to a degree saying something online to

get a reaction in a negative way in a negative way. Is it only in a

negative way? Because if that's if that's going to be the definition, if we take off that word negative, star is

correct and everybody trolls in some form or fashion. I've been sarcastic on Twitter and it's I've been called a

troll for doing it. I think the word personally is is getting old, troll. I I I think it's pretty much run its course.

I think it's it's becoming more of a normality now, the way we we act on social media. I think that that

the young people today that are 5, 10, and 15 years of age, I think that what

we used to consider snitching is now the norm for them. for them to get up on on

IG or to or you know Facebook and all this other stuff and and to say hey I'm here with so and so he he's turned up on

these [ __ ] and and uh these [ __ ] just put you know rocks in their stick and you know they they're sucking dick

over here you know the point of that's normal point of social media is documented snitching that used to be

snitching to us yo yo my [ __ ] how are you you know putting pictures on Snapchat with me [ __ ] this [ __ ] raw

you know and I got wifey at home that's still snitching to to us. Yes. But to the newer generation,

that's that's the norm. Instagraming. That's the norm. That's normal normal behavior. I I don't I can't say that

I've ever said anything online for specifically for a reaction.

I can't say that I've said anything. Well, no, specifically for a certain reaction. We all have said

something for reaction. If you put if you put your sneaker collection up on IG and I would like somebody to compliment

it. Well, compliment it. Yes. But, you know, but just keep in mind that, you know, somewhere somebody is going to,

you know, say, "Hey, I know where that [ __ ] lives." And the wolves are coming to get that collection. Now,

would that be snitching the person who who tells where you live? Probably. So, but by today's standards, no one gives a

[ __ ] They're coming to get the collection. It's a different mindset. So, so I guess what I'm trying to say

is, you know, still snitching at me. Okay. Well, sure. But, but I guess what I'm trying to say is, and again, I don't

have to sit here and and defend Vlad, but you know, don't hate him for pioneering or being a a social engineer.

Well, no, I hate him for way better. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Well, he he is arrogant. I I will say that he's he's

arrogant, but um it kind of feels like it's pioneering the [ __ ] [ __ ] It's like putting people on a couch that shouldn't

have an opinion. Not all the time. Not all the time. I mean, hip-hop loves the [ __ ] [ __ ] Let's be clear. Very true. I

will not disagree with you at all. Hip hop. That's why Vlad has one of the number one sites in the world. I'm saying from my personal hip-hop loves

the [ __ ] [ __ ] I think for example, one of the number one sites in the world. Well, in our Okay, got it. Well, let's

be clear. All right. Cuz if that that was telling information, if he does one of the highest Alaska rankings Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm aware of that. But for example, that bankroll fresh thing. I personally think that that's something that should not be put on a couch and

recorded and put online for people to laugh and tweet about. He does some things in bad taste. But at the same

time, we want to see we want to see uh [ __ ] get shot, you know, streamed on Facebook. Same on World Star. People get

knocked out and shot every day on World. I didn't want to see that. I didn't want to see homeboy uh put the gun to his

cheek with the blood and all that. That was too much. Them certain things just shouldn't be online. But most people want to see that.

Sadly. Sadly. But is that journalism? Just cuz you're catering to retards. But by today's standards, yes, that's

journalism. Yes. That still wasn't the question. Terrifying. That still wasn't the question. I don't know. Catering to

retards. Is that journalism? No. By not following up and doing the correct steps. Hang on. Hang on. Getting the

truth. By today's standards, that's journalism. Star, you

sadly. Sadly, but when you put by today's standards in front of anything,

yeah. Yeah. [ __ ] is [ __ ] up today. I don't But we don't come from today.

Why? Why do we celebrate the Kardashian family? Who is we? I have no idea. Oh,

America. I would love to know. I have my own ideas about America. One of the top rated shows in the history of

television. Why do we celebrate that that that that low-life behavior dumb

[ __ ] And and do any of those girls even have a [ __ ] college degree? May maybe the the little short old one, whatever.

What is her name? Uh I don't know any of their names. I know. No, that's not true. I know

Clos maybe Courtney has a college degree. I I don't know. But you know, by

today's standards, why do we celebrate them? So, so if you're asking about journalism, trolling, snitching, yada

yada. It's all one big pot of of of [ __ ] So, I'll still pick on Vlad.

It's just a bigger issue. Okay. Hey guys, we're just specifically speaking about Vlad. I' I've enjoyed our

conversation. Thank you. I I have Good to see you again, man. I have to see you more. I have to. I have to. I have to.

You're such a bevy of information. Thank you, man. I know you're going down to Atlanta. Are you going to be up here

frequently or it's going to be? I'm still in Pennsylvania, but but I'm I'm moving the operation to Atlanta and I'm going to be there for at least Well,

he's still got a property to sell and that ain't quick. I I got a buyer, I guess. Am I on the hook? He got a Did he

Is he approved? Pre-approved. Yes. Well, everybody's pre-approved. Everybody's

pre-approved. They put down a deposit. Hey, now that's a Hey. Okay. Okay. Hey,

you might be in Atlanta sooner than we think. Uh we would love to have you back. Atlanta is a [ __ ] uh 2 and 1/2

hour flight away and and I'm sure I'll be there at at some point. But yeah, thank you for coming. Canon, thank you

as well. I would love to see you soon, too, so we could talk sports. You got away. I'm big sports. Big sports. Big

sports guy. Big sports guy for me. Uh so yeah, we'll get that popping too. And

that that [ __ ] that was great. I don't have anything. I'm so happy with what just occurred. Personally, personally, I

don't give I don't even give a [ __ ] if people want to hear this [ __ ] or not. As vocal for me, this was amazing. As vocal

and opinionative I am on this podcast. I'm glad I got to listen. And I'll say this again, man, because I'm, you know, I don't, you know, need to stroke

anybody's ego, but um again, you are one of the original social engineers of, you

know, uh reality, hiphop, television, whatever you want to call it. So if I can just say you ple please please not

that you have to but you know don't let people take that away from you. I mean

wear that as they can't. Okay. Okay. They can't. That's etched in stone. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm just saying wear that as a badge of honor man because you

know television and has gone someplace totally different. I don't know where the [ __ ] it's going but um you know you

were one of the first. Yeah. Thank you. Salute man. That's all. Yeah. I wanted to come out there and [ __ ] with the

station if if we can Vlad be in a different part. He'd be in like a different field. Vlad's coming to

Atlanta. So many words. I didn't say Vlad's coming to Atlanta. Vlad's in California driving Ferraris and

Lamborghinis. Go. Good for Vlad. Hey Vlad. Good for you. I think Ross paid

for it for the lawsuit. Easy, easy joke. It was a joke. No, Vlad's getting money. Vlad's getting money. One

of the highest [ __ ] rates. Let's not be Let's Let's just Let's put our our hate to the side.

My last question. Did you and Big Tiger ever make up? Where's Big Tiger? Um, Big

Big Tiger and I shook hands, man. 2005. You know, it's not as serious as you

think. I have no enemies, no hatred towards anybody. Mhm. I think he's doing radio in DC. And I think he's allegedly

smashed what's her name from for me at the Cosby Show. Uh um Rudy Trudy, what's

Felicia? Yeah, allegedly. Yeah, I don't know. Allegedly, he smashed her. I don't know. Good for him. I'm probably wrong.

I don't want to get sued. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Star. Is is Is Rudy still is Is she cute? She was aging

well for a while. I haven't seen her in a couple years. She was aging well. Hey, they need to do some type of Cosby Kids

special. I don't think Cosby Kids is a hot topic right now, Joe. I don't think Cosby Kids is celebrating. Oh, [ __ ]

[ __ ] Cosby, man. Jesus. All right, listen. I won't end this podcast later. Let me get up and shake this man's head.

Yo, I I'm so I love Star. Well, I [ __ ] I reached out

to Star. When were we out in the Poconos when we did that trip with everybody?

That was February. So, maybe even January. I reached out to Star in January about doing this

podcast. And I've been wanting to have him on here. Yeah, he said. And and like

I I said before, I I didn't really want to be part of the podcast when he was on here because he's such a strong

personality and you're such a strong personality. Let me be let me be clear for the

listeners out there and it's just one of the great uh mine and Rory's respect level for

that gentleman couldn't be higher. No. Um we

are like such huge fans and just admirers of all that he

has done even in disagreements because I let me be very clear I disagree with a

lot of that [ __ ] Well I love I love people that I can disagree. Yes. It's so

healthy for the brain. It exercises all that [ __ ] That's great. Great great

great. I'm glad he came. Glad glad he came. Thank you. Oh Jesus. Uh we got to

do uh it was what else was there to even talk about? That's how you know that nigga's good. Yeah, cuz we had told cuz

there was a whole slew of [ __ ] that we wanted to get into that who cares

because that was just great fodder. It was such great conversation. And I'm real happy to hear that he's starting

his own [ __ ] and I hope it does really well because he's a two immensely talented and intelligent and I noticed

with him just as much as Angie with just great radio personalities even if they're the guest they're going to

dictate the conversation 100%. That's exactly what he did. And that's why you have to leave someone

like that to do that because that's what they're great. You have to allow them. You have you can't put a Listen, that's that's why I listen I had things that I

wanted to talk about with him, but you have to let that conversation take its course. And him and I were texting

before and I sent him talking points and he just said copy and I said to myself, "Star just going to star.

You said we we might do some talking points, but he just going to rock cuz this is what he does for a living."

Naturally. Naturally. I I hope to get like that one day. That's great. Yeah.

Well, I mean, I think the narrative of radio now is chasing what he built. I I think why Charlamagne and this is not a

shot at Charlemagne at all because I do like what Charlemagne is doing. Yeah. I I think everyone chasing Charlemagne is

so great right now that everyone's trying to chase what Charlmagne is doing, but that comes from Star's narrative. I think what Ebro is trying

to do and no disrespect to Ebro. I know Ebro has been in radio forever and I know he was Star's uh [ __ ] director,

whatever that [ __ ] is cool, but still that what Star does is I don't even want to affiliate uh Star with with anyone

else just because of his journey. I I just don't um but I I will say speaking

of Charlemagne um yeah Charlemagne is from that somewhere and if I trapped

Charlemagne in a room and play truth the truth with him I think he would feel the

same he would say he feels the same way about Star. I get I get that he probably can't say that. I think he's had

interviews where people have brought up Star and I think he's regarded him as someone that he thinks is great. He would have to You would have to You

would have to Oh yeah, that that he has. He has. He has. I've heard him say Wendy. I've heard him say Angie. I've heard him say Star before. Um, what else

is there to even talk about? There is a Nate Parker thing, but I I

feel like that's such a long conversation, we might need to save that for um I hope Freddy Gibbs is all right,

man. Well, that's that's one and the same. Uh, who was Freddy Gibbs lawyer? I'm not [ __ ] up. I saw I was scrolling

by something that said why his lawyer [ __ ] up and I saw an image of a woman and my misogynistic ways kicked in. How

did she [ __ ] that up? How did she [ __ ] up? I didn't click it. Cuz I think that

Yeah. Right. If she [ __ ] up, I would like to know about it. But I I want all of us to say a prayer for Freddy Gibbs.

Uh I'm I'm aware that and hopefully some of y'all are too that an indictment means absolutely nothing. And I'm still

from the school of innocent until proven guilty. Even though I know America doesn't operate that way. It just sounds

nice. Uh, so I'm just going to hope for the best for Freddy Gibbs.

Um, I don't even want to talk about it now. Now, I don't Yeah, let's do sleeper songs. I said with the Nate Parker [ __ ]

but that's I think that's a full conversation itself. So, let's save that for next week. And fantasy football and football in general, I think, is for

next week. Yeah, I agree. And the night of and Stranger Things. Stranger

Things power. Oh my god, Holly's dead. way out of you. Hey, I will say this

real quick and and we'll touch more on this during the next podcast. I just want to go on Did he kill her or did the

writers kill her? I was just about to say I want to go on record saying all of

the people that I know in real life that wanted Holly dead, they're still mad at

her. She's dead. Y'all got what y'all wanted and they are still cursing that

bitch's name. And a shout out to uh Joseph. I'm not familiar with I don't

I'm not going to try and say his last name cuz I'm going to [ __ ] it up. But boy did he play that scene. He played

that scene. Tommy Tommy he played that scene well. Shout out to Oh my god.

Pow's getting good. I don't know how Night of is going to The Night of is about to piss me off. I don't know how they're going to close this in two more

episodes. I mean, they're really running with the stepfather at this point. And I think the stepfather, if we're going

with this narrative, was the gentleman on the motorcycle. And I think in the next episode, we will find out that the

stepfather does drive a motorcycle. And I don't know if he's going to end up being the killer, but we are going to

find out just how I've noticed how this has been written. The stepfather will drive a [ __ ] motorcycle.

And then I'm going to be mad. Yeah. And then I'm going to be mad. And then I'm going to curse the night of out. Even

though we have been accurately predicting by mistake because the my mentions tell me, "Yo, Joe and Rory said

that [ __ ] was getting tattoos." Yo, my mentions as annoyed as my mentions be sometimes. Sometimes I think they be

lying on me and say I say doper [ __ ] than I said like, wait, did I really predict that? I don't like prison Naz.

He's dope. He running the whole [ __ ]

Well, how do you feel about him uh uh smoking uh whatever it is? We're not sure what control substances it is, but

Well, you asking the wrong person. I'm all for smoking [ __ ] that you don't know what it is.

Sure, Omar. I'll smoke it. Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm all for that. Uh I'm not all for

him being totally oblivious to a trial coming up, but he's been oblivious since

day one. So, you know, we we'll see what happens. I think that whole white shirt, blue shirt, Omar court shirt thing is

going to be important at some point. Not because of the actual shirt thing, but

uh moving forward, he will listen to everything Omar has to say regarding Wait, why am I saying Omar? Well, cuz

he's Omar and Bod's Bod. It's It's HBO. It's the wire. It is Omar, man. I just

want to see Adabesi come back. Yeah, but do we think Omar Well, I mean, I know he is, but I'm going to say, do we think

Omar is playing Nas here? Cuz I think Nas is much more important to him in prison than he is out of prison.

You're talking about next season now cuz they can't get into any of that with two more episodes left. Omar been we know

that he he's the [ __ ] uh Steph Curry of convicts. So he's playing him and make it look like he's taking care of

them. He not. He playing him. He getting them high. Everyone knows you when you was a pimp, you took the [ __ ] and you

got them high so you could control them. Yeah, but he's already controlling everything. Well, now once he gets him

hooked to that [ __ ] he's really controlling him now. Oh, nah. I don't know. We got to watch it play out. But,

um, what else is there to talk about? Uh, I'll say I'll say this and this is things I finished today, by the way. I

haven't, so don't tell me [ __ ] Um, and I won't cuz I don't have cable or Wi-Fi in my new house. Oh, well, but I got a

new house, so [ __ ] you. Um, without cable. Um, I only want Wi-Fi. Um, I'll

I'll say this and I'll only say this to to Nah, I won't even say I don't even care about all of that [ __ ] [ __ ] Um,

sleeper songs. Sleeper songs. Yeah, we could do sleeper songs. Yo, my sleeper song last week, I'm glad that all of you

enjoyed it just as much as I do cuz I really truly do love that song. And I want to shout out to Ryan aka DJ Badass

who bumped into it on Spotify and uh let me know about it. Have you warmed up to

Party's album before we get in there? No, I've warmed up to it. There's

there's a there's a few records I would have got rid of. Uh it's a horrible album. I would not say it's a horrible

album. I know. It's at 16 records. If it was at 11, it would be a great album.

You know, the songs I like are the songs he gave us already. Uh, so the two songs that he leaked, don't know how and they

don't know how two or whatever. Two two of those. I like those two songs and I like the reggae Jamaican song. And other

than that, oh, and I like one song at the end. Hey, you're right. I warmed up to one song at the end of the album. Joy

is great. Transparent is great. Joy is great. Oh, you're bugging. Joy is one of the better songs on that album, but on

an album full of [ __ ] And I know I can't say that, but whatever. And and I

can't say my theory because we promise. Yeah. Yeah. We're not going to Yeah, we're not going to do that. We're not going to do that. But um great theory

though. What the truth? It's an amazing the fact that we can't talk about. But

um Sleeper Songs. Yeah. I I'll get right to it. Uh oh, I'm plugged in. And I want Party's album to do well cuz I want him

to be able to continue to release music. And when you want people to continue to release music, you have to support them

and want them to do well. I say that to you people that just refuse to purchase music. Um who you rolling with this week? So,

let me find mine as well. I spoke about this record, but since we had so many [ __ ] problems with studios the past

few weeks, which we apologize, guys. Um, I only spoke about this record, I didn't play it, but the video came out today,

or else I wouldn't be playing it because I really want y'all to listen to this record. Lloyd True, the video is out

today, so I'm going to play it as my sleeper song. We've heard that as a sleeper song. I feel like Oh, I spoke

about it. I never played it. I just said it. Parks, I'm playing it, but nothing's coming out.

Oh, Joe might have [ __ ] it up. It's playing

from the pain. Oh, yeah. Joe was [ __ ] with everything. That's why. From the realness.

No, I spoke about this record and said it was great. My story.

[Music] This song is great. And the video came out today. That's why I thought it was relevant to play.

I love the scene and my old team. Had to find a new approach to an old dream. And

it's not to take a shot at my old team. I just want you to see this is me. So

please accept me for who I am and please accept me for what I do.

I'm just doing everything that I can cuz all I want to be is true. So please

accept me for who I am and please accept me for what I do.

That video is out now. Well, today on Vivo. I hope he has a project coming

out. This was the single according to Instagram. My my only problem with Lloyd has always

been uh come and go, flash in the pan, inconsistent. Not inconsistent in terms

of uh the quality of music, delivering the music. How many Lloyd has two albums

and then he went away. I mean, I think he kind of addressed it on that record as far as having a new team now that he

needs to move forward, a new approach to an old dream. You're talking to the guy that just continues to release music

through having bad tastes. So, I mean, what do you want me to do, bro? Hey, give me that give me that song. I mean,

give me that um chord for a minute. So, I'm going to I hope that I've never played this song. I don't think I have,

but either way, I've played this gentleman before. And this is my guy Ro

James. And this is the song El Dorado. Not to be

confused with his album that is also titled El Dorado. This is the title

track from his album. And if I'm not mistaken, it's the last song. It's the last song on his

album. I play this [ __ ] on repeat and and ride on the highway.

[Music] And if you old enough, you know how fly

El Dorado was.

Elorado deep barely fitting on the Dorado. Limited edition, triple black,

triple terra. Ain't nobody got this, not nobody from my era. She ain't got no

door handles or no mirrors. We get attention anytime we make an appearance.

Something we love to do. Me my ride when

you don't ride with me no more. My hands are in the passenger side

of me no more. Oh, I've been rolling along cuz you don't want to pray with me

no more. Oh, you forgot you were safe and I'm

still a singer. Just rolling along. Rolling along. Rolling

along. Rolling along. I be singing this [ __ ] like I could sing with in the car.

[Music] Hey, between Ro James, uh, Anderson

Pack, and BJ the Chicago Kid, they're still so on R&B. Rory, I

asked you to send me that Fonte, uh, the project with Eric Robersonson. Yeah,

which I also spoke about and didn't play. Um, Fonte and Eric Roberson have a great album together. Oh, I might need

to play one more. No, we out, [ __ ] But I asked you to send me that. Now I don't have Wi-Fi.

Yeah, it's true. But I'll be right at this studio that's up the street with Oh, or that's not up the street with

some Wi-Fi. You'll be at Starbucks. Yeah, I'mma be that guy. I'm about to be that guy. Um, I really enjoyed this

week. Really enjoyed this podcast. I want to thank Star once again. Um, and this was this was wonderful. We'll see

y'all next week. We'll talk to y'all next week. Again, we apologize for the audio issues that we've had in the past

weeks. We don't need y'all to keep telling us we hear it the way y'all hear it. And hopefully we've gotten that fixed. Parks in the boards. Real [ __ ]

in the booth. I'll name this podcast later. Episode number 76. 1.