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a man dog head. I don't [ __ ] with y'all. Y'all they can't see my eyes unless my

head is bent. You dig? We fly high. Don't lie. You know this, Zippy.

You look good, bro. How the [ __ ] you lost weight like that so fast, [ __ ] You just said you want some [ __ ] out.

Don't Don't blame me on Portuguese neither, [ __ ] It's not Portugal. That's that zips. Don't do that. You said scag. That's what it is. Skag.

Don't put that in ours. Skag diesels. Skagent.

You look good though, bro. Combination. Are we a recording? We are. But I mean,

we are Fox, man. This should be the worst [ __ ] to do Skag with. Thank god he drug free. Indeed. I

ain't going to hold you. Indeed. That [ __ ] be sitting there talking a [ __ ] Oh my lord.

When my when my mom and dad get to talking about their story that predates me, that's part of it. How my mom was

the worst person for my dad to get high with cuz she always heard noises.

Oh man, the paranoid one. That's the funniest. I wasn't on Earth, but knowing

my mom that just sounds annoying. All right, I'm shut up before I get in

trouble. Oh, what's up, man? How y'all feeling? What up? What up? Feeling great, man. How you feeling?

Feeling good. Better. Feeling good. Nice rainy day. Nice. Oh, yeah. That's your bag. I thought they faked us out all

weekend. It was all nice and [ __ ] Well, s Saturday was Saturday was the fake out. Yeah, Saturday was Saturday was the

fake out, but that let me know that it was coming. Go ahead and get your little last hot day. All of y'all in Stafford

and at the bars and just out there being fast, being little hot asses cuz the

weather's nice. Traffic all backed up. take two hours to get where it would take an hour to get. Oh, I hated it. I

don't understand that about I hated it Saturday. I hated it today. Why does no one know how to drive as soon as it like

a drop of rain shows people people can't drive? All it take is one person. Turn signal not turning in two lanes. No, no

reason whatsoever except that it's raining. It don't be no accident. It be nothing. One person just slow down and

it [ __ ] all the way up. I'm not even talking about too early to be an elitist in the show. No, never.

There's a lot of poor cars on the road. Yeah. No, for real. Cuz I can't put this

all on human error. Some of these cars is out here with no tread on the tires.

Some of y'all is out here with uh uh the bad rearwheel drive, not the good ones.

[ __ ] up. That should just drift. Some of these [ __ ] all the lights on is in the in the Come on. [ __ ] ain't going

to the mechanic. [ __ ] ain't going to the doctor. [ __ ] ain't Hey. And and y'all

just had the money for the car. So all them extra questions they asked, you skipped them. You walked right out. Yo,

would you like tire? Nah. Give me my [ __ ] I'm out of here. All right. Would you like the extended war? Nope. All

right. We have a 100,000 milei plan. Nope. Sorry. So yeah, that's what it is. Poor people cars on the road. People

don't know how to drive them. Sorry.

There was a couple nice cars doing dumb in here get stupid, but I seen all y'all's cars so y'all don't have to hide

the laughter. I came downstairs and seen y'all cars. Why y'all up here trying to

talk? I really wish you hadn't come down. The one day you come spend time with us was the day we were all in the

park. That [ __ ] Mark pulled up. I would mean life shade.

You can't see my eyes. Yeah, he upgraded. It had some [ __ ] written on the side. I never even seen on that car.

Limited edition upgrade [ __ ] too. Oh, you got the Eddie Bower [ __ ] Yeah, he had.

Yeah, he had the Eddie Bower joint. Hilarious. It's cool. How y'all feeling?

Feeling good, man. Good, man. Good. Happy to see y'all. How's your weekend as well? How's your weekend? How was my

weekend? Yeah. Uh, my weekend was good.

Saturday, I was just chilling in the house, cuddling with my baby. Oh, that's

always a good thing. But I made a mistake. I promised him that tomorrow I would take him to his best friend's house, Vincent. Shout to Vincent. And my

baby communicating and [ __ ] Stop doing that. Like, hey

dog. Hey, I go to Vincent house. I'm throwing every excuse to book at this.

No, the rain, the weather. This [ __ ] go the weather app. Yeah. That's supposed to let up. Look like

we'll be in the clear here, [ __ ] I'm still dodging it. I ain't going to let

this sevenyear-old win. He text He text somebody. Somebody mom. Jackie. Jackie.

I need Vincent. Mom number behind my back. So, Sunday morning when he wake up

at 9 900 a.m. Time to go. First person he texts behind my back is Vincent mom.

Oh [ __ ] Hey, think I can slide over today. [ __ ] this is against I couldn't do no

[ __ ] like this, bro. It's different, my [ __ ] I have kids. I don't know how I feel about my kid

texting adults, making plans. I don't know about that, [ __ ] My daughter got a contract. Your kid can't should not

text adults to make plans, but this is really his best friend. We know that. No, I get it. I get it. But no, I hear

you. Still no. Your kid is going to know how to text. That's what scares me. And he going to have a or he or she will

have a device to do so. And you're going to be in your room with a beex Budweiser watching the game. You

can't you can't even hit them with the lie of like, yo, in an hour. Mhm. They

know how to set the timer. The [ __ ] timer goes off and yo, an

hour. I was like, "Yo, come on." This kid sitting there looking at the time like he got to watch. Yeah. Hey dog, you

said 3:00. It's about that time. We should get out if we're going to get going. Do I have school tomorrow? Yep. Now's good. So, I took him over to this

best friend house. That's right. Mhm. And now was the weekend. I I couldn't I couldn't trick him. It's over. It's

over. These tablets, they got them, bro. Yeah. No, they got you. No, they got

them and then the kids got us. He on there buying the $500 [ __ ] for Roblox.

Oh [ __ ] He bugging now. His little outfit. Your your card is on this on the on file. Huh? No. Shard is on file.

Same thing. Same thing. Same. Clean it up, [ __ ] Make you feel

better. But she'll pop up, [ __ ] Watch it. Watch it, [ __ ] She'll pop up. That's true. She'll hear you say that.

It is the same thing. It is. It is. Oh, he fell for the trap. It is cuz it is the same thing. But I do feel good about

it. And is it her bread if it's the same thing? Cuz we had Remember this? No, it's her bread. So So you believe that even though you give her the money? No,

she has money. No, I know she has money. But I'm just saying remember we had a conver that cuz some people ran down on

me this weekend in Philly while I was up there about that conversation that we had when I said that if I give my wife

the money, it's still my money. But they agreed with y'all. They said, "Flip, you bugging, [ __ ] That's her money." So you still stand on that same side. What

was my position? Your position was I can't say that it's her money. Because I

was saying that if you give your wife money, she buy a gift. If she buys you a gift, it's your it's your it's you that

cuz it's your money. Nope. You was like, "No, I don't agree with that." No, I don't I don't agree with that. Yeah. Yeah. [ __ ] that's her money. [ __ ]

man. Listen, when my baby bought me a trip to [ __ ] uh Migos, that was her

when [ __ ] was like, "Yo, that was her on the phone." I got it. Yeah. No, I was

chilling. They ran down on me about that. I'm like, y'all [ __ ] is crazy, man. I believe when I'm safe, though, right? Yeah, I'm good. I was in this

weekend. Shout out to Mark. He called me make sure I was good, too. Yo, you need anything? It was good. Just a flip the network [ __ ] It was nice. Did you go

buy some street? Yeah. Huh. Did you go buy books? Nah, I didn't buy books, but I am

going to go buy some books. I'm going back down there. I told my books I said flip is coming through. You know what I mean? Look out for him. Show up.

Call me [ __ ] Call me. Yo, if you need a free book, Mark. Yo, look at this [ __ ] Mark. Look at this [ __ ] Mark calling me. Yo. Hey, if you need

somebody to make errands for you, call me. I'm going to make it happen. Like, I'm in my head. I'm like, who the [ __ ]

this [ __ ] think he is? I had a body man for him. So, like fire, but you know, you ain't you ain't going to utilize me,

[ __ ] You ain't going to get me. A body man like a bodyguard. No, like like somebody who like run like I like

somebody who like run you smart. Hey, don't for none of

that takes a trick. That's a setup. That [ __ ] is a lineup. All that Mark behind

the scenes, basketball games and [ __ ] restaurants. Nah, that [ __ ] is

crazy. Mark call my my phone off work hours now.

I ain't speaking. The way you put [ __ ] together. So this [ __ ] I'm like, "All right, Mom. All right, Mom. I told you later." Thank you, though. Thank you.

Trying to be helpful, man. He was. No, I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I wish you'd have told me I had I probably had a crib for you to use. Oh, yeah. I'm

still good looking, man. Thank you, man. I We took care of it. Beautiful weekend. Beautiful

network. Couple of artistes and [ __ ] Have fun, man. Artist. Artist. Bar me.

Thank you. That's That's when I would have Somebody laugh back there. Is that a white man? Was that Was that a white

man laughing at my If I was an aspiring rapper, nothing. You heard your man back there

just laughed at me, but I said artistes and it's artist. Yo, what's [ __ ] That's Ian. Yo, what's taking so long to

get the camera on Erikson or in that back room for y'all little back room shenan? Didn't I ask for that [ __ ] like

a year [ __ ] Check [ __ ] We asked for it, [ __ ] Well, if it's up then well I

don't never see y'all faces back there. You cut to it. Yeah. Yeah. How about it? Eat chicken

[ __ ] like that. How about it? Let's cut to it. We got eight. One, two, three. Oh, you got a lot

of sauce. Yo, we got a eight camera. Every time [ __ ] come in here, they be like, "The W is like this." That's the

first thing they do when they get here. Start looking. Why is that such a Everybody that walks through here.

This is what Nory did. His man did. This is nice.

Look at Joe [ __ ] ass is watching tight like what you would have did. I don't know. I would I don't know. But I

watched that [ __ ] record it. This is mad nice. They come with their cameraman. and the cameraman. They start

talking to Ericson trying yo yo yo yo find out what the gear is. I was surprised when I came as a guest. I looked this mother way different than I

thought it was going to look. Yeah, he got hooked up. What did you think it was going to look like? Some ghetto [ __ ] Like two cameras, two DSLRs maybe. What

did he say? Couple Nikons. He thought we were going to have a couple Nikon. But nobody a lot of podcasts.

He thought your studio was going to be ghetto. That's what he just said. He said some ghetto [ __ ] actually. Is that what he said? I didn't say that. I did.

But then he he said that translation. No, that was No, but I mean the amount the camera setup, the type of cameras,

the sound, all that [ __ ] is this is high tech. I didn't know that coming in. It looks good on screen, but some people do it with a lot less. Y'all do it like

fly. It don't look and sound the same. They don't. And now I understand why. I ain't got eight cameras, [ __ ] I see [ __ ] with iPhones on a tripod. Yo,

dead ass [ __ ] be having the the mitch match Cannons and Sony's [ __ ] Eight

of the same. This [ __ ] is ill. No wonder the [ __ ] be surprised. Thank you guys. [ __ ] you,

[ __ ] And he got the strong. And for the aspiring content creators out there,

just know that we didn't start out this way. That's true. So, if you keep your head down and and and keep keep the

mission in in place in front of you, then you'll be able to work and get everything you want to. Don't don't don't compare your day one to someone

else's day one trillion. True. And if you fail, he's going to play another one

bites the dust. [Laughter] And then he's going to laugh. Make sure

you keep your keep your head up like pop. Y'all want y'all want to retire it? If y'all If y'all want to retire it, I'm

down to retire it. No. No. Absolutely not. I think I It's funny, but I be

feeling bad when you do it, boy. That [ __ ] you did with math, that was [ __ ] up. That [ __ ] was You call that [ __ ]

That was [ __ ] up. Yeah, that was [ __ ] up. That was Yeah. Like a little bad. Mark and Mel, what what did y'all

vote? I will I will retire it really if unless it's your enemy. If it's your enemy

that's different. But just every time a [ __ ] fell we celebrate we dance on their grave. I don't know. They are my enemy. They definitely made that. Well,

not enemy enemy friends. My real enemy, but in the in the fake content world,

every content that's not this content is my enemy. Okay. Look, I ain't going I don't feel that strong about it, but if

I just had to vote, I'd say no. I say I say retired. I say retired, too. Obviously, I would say I say I say keep

it alive. That's three. All right, we got one. One. Well, you said free. I mean, you say, that's two for keep. Is

tiebreaker. Come on. Is she ain't the tiebreaker. Mel will be the tiebreaker depending on

what issue. Y'all don't drag it. I want to hear what you say. Mel wants to keep it. I Now,

now is a tiebreaker. 3. Three. Mel wants to keep it. She just won't say it. I want to keep it. Of course you Let's

[ __ ] go. Let's [ __ ] go.

cuz I Huh. No, wait. I'm coming for you. Cuz I

really wanted to keep it, but I love it so much that I kept I wanted to keep it, but I didn't want to say it.

No, no, cuz it is me. It's But you called a [ __ ] and played. You played in

the background while you was talking to him. Yo, hey. Hello. How you? All right. All right. Well,

let's try it this way. Yes. In the event that this podcast were to abruptly come

to an end uh on some [ __ ] too. Not not just way we cried to the sunset.

Yeah. No, not knowing Quest Love that [ __ ] I listen to that episode. They were that was a great finale. Shout out

to Quest Love. Yeah. But if if this show ended and it wasn't that like it was

some [ __ ] what do you think would be happening out there? Yeah, they could get back. But you said it would be a

holiday. It would be a holiday for sure. [ __ ] will take off work to celebrate Twitter. Yo, we throw some on the grill.

What? You're right. All right, I got it. I next year, let's review this again.

Another one bites the dust. That's just good for a year. And just for the record,

I've noticed a few things change changing in the landscape and I did not play it. I know what you're talking

about. Oh, wait. What's he talking about? What are you talking about? You let him say it. I might have missed it. I didn't play it, so I won't say it. Oh

man. Okay, flip. Say it. We don't know what the hell yall talking about. So, keep your ears to the [ __ ]

street, but I guess not enough. A lot of [ __ ] looking a little shaky. Oh yeah. A lot of [ __ ] making a lot of changes.

They're downgrading. They trying to do a lot for the crib. Hey. Um, they got the

little light. You know the light? The ring light. The [ __ ] the [ __ ] be using.

I used to use that. Those me too. Don't do that. Those are good lights. I got I got those good lights. I got a 600D.

[ __ ] that I was in Best Buy every month buying them shits, [ __ ] Yeah. I'm just saying but [ __ ] be downgrading and cr

and they don't try to hide it. Take the shades off. We can see through your glasses the ring light, [ __ ] Don't try

to be cool. Oh [ __ ]

Man, what's up, man? What was your weekend like? Uh I was actually close to Philly, I think. What? Where? Clemen

Clement, New Jersey. You just don't learn. What was up there with Reed Dollars?

You got some young foot [ __ ] I was I was working. Well, who I was? What? Why

you all that mix? Cuz she What's you doing in that direction, [ __ ] You don't have no [ __ ] That's close to Camden. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was close to

Camden. Mhm. Yep. Yeah. Oh, you try to go for the hood, [ __ ] Now I got it. [ __ ] it. You need somebody to [ __ ]

[ __ ] up when they try to get rid of you. I do, actually. We got the can them [ __ ] And I saw that post you made too in your stories. What was it? Which

part? Some [ __ ] with a [ __ ] for lier. I don't know. They sent it to my DM. I said, "Oh, here she go. She back at it.

[ __ ] birthday back in them better." Right. Show them what was going on in Clement, New Jersey. Um, back in the day

be Clement Park. She was Muhammad Ali and them peoples. No, I was uh I did like a little kind of popup um hot and

bothered and I interviewed Da Vinci from um All American and BMF. Oh, okay. And

then um I went to go watch a youth league uh basketball tournament. It was

kind of all combined. She was with a [ __ ] That's a joke. She was with a [ __ ]

Ain't no Melissa Ford watching a youth league. She's out there with birdie. Chilling with them. Girl, it was part of

the whole thing. So he gave you a package. Yo. Hey yo, listen. If I do this for you, you got to pull up to the game.

Yo, M. You don't learn. What? No. You going to learn, brother. It was it was

mother, you don't learn. It was work. Mel, what if if you want to interview a

[ __ ] and he adds extra things to it besides an interview for

add both of us were were hired to be there. Tell us about the AA game, [ __ ]

Who was the kid name that scored the most points? Oh, I don't know who exactly who was playing. It was uh it's

a youth league. So, the I was there I was there supporting the kids, right? was there supporting the YA athletics.

That was that was that was who I was there supporting. Salute in your little joke. This ain't about to just be a ad

for anything she want to say. Right. Right. Ask for details. That [ __ ] off. They're asking for details. Oh

my lord. But yeah, that was it. That was Saturday. You set me You be setting me up with that to get your ads off cuz you say things and you know I'm on it. I'm

on you when it comes to you doing activities that's out the norm and then I and then I get it off.

I have no idea when you're going to go off. Puppet master tree is m you're getting a little better. Thank you, Joe,

for reminding me. Welcome back, Mel. We will not hyperfocus on We love you, man. Out of work uh activities. Well, uh it

was Saturday. It was okay. It was okay. And then Sunday it was rainy. Oh, wait. We need to talk about that. When you

book some pod [ __ ] on a Saturday, hey, when you book some pit on

Saturday 2:00, this [ __ ] get moving after. Hey, where you at after that?

Yeah, I'm at the youth flee. I'm at the youth. I'm at the youth. Yo. Yo, I

wonder what [ __ ] I would be getting off out there if I was single right now. And then dinner. [ __ ] Y'all ever think

about that? Nobody's ever going to be single. But do you ever think about what type of [ __ ] you would be on in the

event that you were when you in the shower? Just Absolutely. It makes me glad that I got married. It all made a lot of sense. say

if you guys would be thinking that you guys would be outside running the streets. I just I I don't know. I do not

think it would be a short run. Yeah. Dangerous rung. It' be like temple run. Yeah. To the [ __ ] corner store and

back. You could be trying to She trying to take a [ __ ] I'm looking. Y don't want to be

in these streets because it's it's a raging dumpster fire. That's that's hate

and that's disgusting. If [ __ ] was running the street, let me explain. You over there. You over there in the hoods

and [ __ ] You stay. I fall for it. I'm sorry. I'mma fall for it. I'mma explain something to you. See, it's not a raging dumpster fire. Cuz if [ __ ] was running

the streets, they ain't really looking for nothing serious anyway. We would be the dumpster fire. We would be the dumpster fire. We would be dumpster

diving that [ __ ] up. Our ladies definitely have saved us from ourselves. We would be pyro. Room for pyros.

Or or there's a new breed of girl in town that you just might not be ready for. I'm down with that too. I'm cool

with that. Open to that. Them new hybrid pictures with the mix one. Yeah, I'm

cool. They got a little bit hood, a little bit of class and all that [ __ ] And they outside weapon X.

I agree with Joe. Okay. Well, good thing that you guys don't have to find out. Somebody tried me the other day. Someone

tried me Friday, too. I was out. I'm just I'm going just spit it out there cuz it's funny. Your girl know about it?

Yeah, I thought it. Okay. Somebody hit me like You got nervous. Uh, she don't play.

Hey, big dog. Uh, and I'm I'm not quoting, but hey, big dog. Uh, they always try to me with this one.

Hey, big dog. I um I need I started my new business and

uh I need an investor. I'll be bored. If you don't know, if

this your first time listening, uh I'll stay on the phone with a prank. You You do that scam. I'll text back I'll text

back a scammer if I ain't got nothing better to do. You you've definitely done that. So I said all right well I'm I'm

listening. And she said I need an investor. And I said all right.

What um how much what genre? Yeah. What was the business? Did she have a business? No. I'm more curious about

what her background was. Huh. Was this a a woman of the entertainment lifestyle?

Was this a lady of the night? I I wouldn't know. I don't have enough of a report to know anything about this. So

you don't know about this person. This is just somebody that's on the internet. Got it. Got it. Okay. Damn. Anyway, I

need an investor. I said, "All right. How much?" Mhm. Before you got to

what business it was, you ask how much because I'm This is just entertainment for me. I'm not really trying. He

doesn't have a plan to invest. Yeah, that's But anyway, she said guess

550,000 500 250. So why you telling me to get Come on. She trying to see what you willing to spend. No, I'm asking

y'all to guess. I'm asking you to guess. I'm asking y'all to guess. 200. Half a million. 200. Half a million. Buck 50.

Buck 50. I'm at a half. Buck 50k. Yeah. 150,000. Half a million. How about 50,000? 50,000. 250. 250k. Mhm.

Three grand.

She opening a lemonade stand. She heard about him in the street. Yo,

she she heard about you in the street. Yeah, that's what that was. She know that [ __ ] going. She knew that [ __ ] easy. He

might He might have sent it to Right.

She heard about you. So, this cleaning it up cuz that's just 2500 inflation

built in. I see what you're doing. No, I didn't send it. You sure? No, I didn't send it. You're not sure? You sure you

didn't? No, I didn't send it. Okay. Got it. Anyway, I said, "Girl, you don't need an

investment. You need a life. You need a job." She said, "Hug." She

said, "Well, what do I need?" I said,

"3K." [ __ ] A good box. But anyway, I only bring it up to say when this when when this message happen.

Uh, what time? Recently. No. What time of the day? I think it's No, no, no. I just meant one day cuz you know how they

get around the end of the month. Oh, that's true too. Not just hold on. No, the first of the month. An investor for

investor for rent is hilarious. That's the investment. It's an investment in me. Yes. If you need 3K to

get your business started, then you got the wrong business. Got a lemonade stand.

I don't have selling pencils and getting your business started. No, she just need the ring lights and the and the toys.

Oh, there you go. And and let me just take it off uh this young lady for a minute. [ __ ] don't never have that and

we got to start this part. [ __ ] don't never have that conversation like when you in a relationship with somebody or

got a relationship with somebody and you help her with the business. Do you don't never state the terms, right? No. No

corny to do. I think so. Okay. But I think if it's the other way around, they

women but women take the terms though. That can't be corny. I see women terms. If I give you a 100 grand to start your

nail salon, your nail salon get to rocking in year three bringing in 600 grand a year. I'm not supposed to Oh,

okay. What's the relation? I was about to say, what kind of relation this with your lady?

Uh, does it matter? Yes.

Tell me more. I don't know if it does. I don't think it does either. What do you mean? If you're in a relationship and

you invest in your girl, you you're investing in y'all. You're not investing in her. You investing in your That's not

that that ain't necessarily true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not your wife. If that's just your girlfriend, then that's a whole

different conversation. Your wife is different. If this a relationship is going to end and you need some terms, but if it's your

think No, no. But I'm saying if you dating somebody that you know ain't it, I'm saying I'm writing some terms. Me

either. But if I do, I'm writing the terms. I might do it with my wife if she want to do some business. But Mark, even if you notice it, a lot of we see a

situations where [ __ ] you in a situation you you get a beauty salon and [ __ ] you on the outs. It ain't nothing

wrong with it happens. I tell people get turn. Yeah. I don't know if I've seen that [ __ ] all the time, dog. Time out.

Time out. Cuz now you're fronting. Time out. Because I had a situation where a [ __ ] wanted to borrow some money from

me and I told a [ __ ] to put me on the deed at his house and you castrated me for it. Yeah, I remember. You castrated

me for who? So you the the person that you lay with that you have raw sex. Let me

finish please. The person that you lay with that you have raw sex with you when

you you'll write some terms for them but your man or somebody else that want to borrow some money 100 grand. It was I

think he was I think it was right terms for Antoine you are misrepresenting what my point was in that earlier

conversation. So let me tell it to you. The first premise was your man was in a bind and needed 100 grand. Your friend

was in a bind and needed 100 grand. Okay, that's a friend in a buying. I'm talking business. I'm not talking about

somebody you love being in a hard spot. If if any one of my friends in a hard spot, they can come to me and get the

money, no questions asked. If you come to me and say, "I need a hundred grand for my business proposal, I'm going to

do the same thing that the bank do and ask about the [ __ ] business and state my terms." That's not the same at all.

It's not the same at all. Let's start the [ __ ] you know. I know. I have way crazy. I kind of think it is. I think we

should start and get I think we should start and get back to the same level. I kind of see where you at, though. Y'all

got it. I I Well, listen. Be clear. There's no right or wrong here. It's just what you would do. The situation. I

I I see a I see I see your point. I see the difference. There is a difference. But I think y'all were wrong to follow

him about that cuz at the time his point was cuz I I heard that when it was like, look, it's relation to how much money

you have. Like I can't afford it. I can't afford to just give somebody 100 grand because if they if they if they don't ever pay it back, I'm [ __ ] up.

Being to me being on the deed is somebody that guy wasn't included in the premise. The guy that can't afford to do

it is not wasn't in the conversation. This was somebody can't afford to lose it. Okay. Like you might, you saying

you've got it, but like I I can't afford to get it. I'mma feel it if I don't get it. Cuz y'all was saying you can afford

that. He was saying the hundred to me might be like a million to you or or to whatever think. You know what I'm saying? So, so, so, so yeah, like if

somebody borrow somebody asked me right now for your state terms don't change that then but that's the security that

he said but being on the deed is the why I'm staying terms that's why I want to be on your deed terms all of that's fine

and dandy but if a [ __ ] take that 100 grand and go blow it then you're in the same boat you sell your house no you're

not how not so because the collateral that you put up is my my recourse right the house the house him being on a deed

you go blow that money I still can go wait an asset about his man's an example. He was he was saying before

he remember he said I I will put I would give you the money but I'd put my name on your DDA house and y'all would kill it as collateral. That's some example

that fits what he's saying in that I agree. And what I'm saying the person that's your friend don't have a house.

You don't have the scenario that we were talking about. The person had a house. The scenario that we were talking about

that happened on this show. The person had a house and I said I needed my name to be on a deed and you said what? What?

You put your Yes, I I don't recall it that way. And in that in that I would agree. I don't remember that. I'd have to go listen to it. But in that, all

right, that would be your terms. I'm talking about a [ __ ] that's your man is just coming to you to need some money.

He don't have nothing. That's probably why he's coming to you for some money. But think about I'm not stating terms to

that person that's in a time of need. Are you going to ask when you going to get it back? No. You know, I ask that

question. What if it's a million dollar? But what if it's a million dollars? If that's a million dollars, that's out of

my tax bracket. I don't I don't have an ancillary million dollars to loan someone. That's not I'm not in that. And

and that's there's there's a number where like you can afford to give it, but you can't afford to eat it if he if you never get it back. And I think

that's what the terms are for. Just like with me for me, it's the same thing with the business. Like if it's my wife, I'm not First of all, ain't no dude giving

his wife no terms for no money to give her. If they say that they lying, they they That's what they just said. Yeah, I know. I don't believe it. Yeah, but if

it's somebody, yeah, you worried about what happens if it if it blows up or what happens if it don't

work. Either way, if it blows up and you leave me or if it don't work, I can't afford to eat $100. Yo, I kind of don't

even care if it blow up. I just want my money back. If I loan you 100 grand and you make $5 million off of that. You

don't want You don't want none of it. I don't necessarily have to get that. If it's a stranger, Yeah. But if it's

somebody that I [ __ ] with, I just want my money back. Take my money back. Take the word wife out of it. And does your does your stance change

if if it's a woman that I'm just dealing with and [ __ ] with? Yeah. It don't change it. It it Wait, what? It all comes You

said take my question. You mean like if it's like my girlfriend, like a long-term girlfriend? You mean Yeah. It don't change. It don't change. It don't

change for me. Don't change for me. It don't change for me. I I feel a lot more courageous asking for them terms, but I don't know if I would but I don't know

if I would do it. All right. Let me Let me ask you Let me ask you. So, what's your stance on like putting a putting

your if your significant other wanted to go to school or something?

It's a good question. What's your stance on that? That's different to me. No. Why? It's not different. It's still It's still an investment. It's still an

investment. You're investing in them. You put them through medical school. You're investing in them. Now, they go and become a doctor. Uhhuh. And they

making whatever much a year. Uh-huh. But they leave you. Yep. It's the same thing. The same exact I don't look at

the same way. I don't do it. Okay. I don't look at it the same way. It's the same. It's not to me. But you're

investing in their business the exact same way. It's not the same. It's not the same. I don't I don't look at it the same either. Yeah. Okay.

And why you [ __ ] [ __ ] that

amition? How old is she want to read? How old is I'm just saying bro? [ __ ] go back to

school. You said, "Why you [ __ ] with the girls?" Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Timeless. Wait. We are We in

our 40s and and she say, "I want to go back to school, pay for my school." Yes, that's what you're saying. Got it. Got her. Okay, I understand. Scared me. Oh,

no. She ain't coming home from the prom like you want to do. That is

crazy. I got to make sure. That's extreme. Y got to make sure I

know what we're talking about. That's it. [Applause]

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I'm I'm not daddy.

response. Uh you

[Music] Excuse me, sir. I'm sorry I have to wake you. Are you a doctor? What episode is

this? 8:23. Let's get Melon flip their drops. No. No, man. Stop doing that.

It's good. Stop. Why? No, man. You high like that too much, man. I want to I

want to let my man continue doing what he doing. We fine. Well, I don't know about her. We I'm fine over here, man.

I'm okay. I put it I put it to bed. I put it to rest. I'm

flipping flip flip. No, no, no, no. It's

supposed. So then give me the same [ __ ] Give me the What same [ __ ] you talking

about? You know who I'm talking about. They don't. and we on the show. I can't say that. Oh, then we can. Welcome to episode 823 of the Joe Button podcast.

Thank you very much.

Welcome to episode 823 of the Joe Button podcast. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, happy to be here. Fully

dressed host Joe Button here with a few really amazing people. To my right, some

Matchbox cars guy. The amazing Melissa Ford is in the building.

To her right, queens get the money. Queens Flip is in the building next to

him. King Wah, huh? You know the vibes. Library. Ish is here. Ish is in the

building. I'm not going to talk about your grandpa, [ __ ] [ __ ] I'm happy. [ __ ] looking skinny. Got a new pair of pumps,

man. That [ __ ] just want the new D Brown. [ __ ] ready for Bet Gala.

Get ready for BT Gala. Hey, how you how you doing it, man? Look your fans now

and tell them how you how you finally shedding the weight. How you finally shed the weight? We ain't eating candy. I ain't eating

sweets. It's something big.

You lost a lot of weight fast. I didn't lose. I just saw you the other day, [ __ ] You was looking crazy. You were just big. You were just heavy, [ __ ]

Hey, don't blame it on your foot nether. You were still heavy on your foot. I didn't lose a lot of weight. Please stop with your narrative, Nancy. You've

narrowed down. Ain't nothing wrong with it. I didn't say it was. I lost like 10 lbs. I didn't

lose. Why you put your square voice on? I'm just saying you look good. I thank you. What

waste you look? Yeah. Ready for portrait. Where you going

again? Going somewhere. Oh, you got the [ __ ] that What's his name got? You look nice. I don't even know what you're

talking about, Aki. All right, man. It's cool. Next to ish, Mr. Take It Further himself, the freeziest of them all. Big

Freeze in the building. Next to Freeze, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill in the

building. What was your code name? Miz. Miz. Miz. Big Miz.

Say big Miz. It's Miz. My man Fox. I was mad

at you. Ain't letting that go. That is never I'm never letting that go either.

Yeah, but he feel like there's more to uncover there. No, there is 100% more to uncover Mark. No, I'm on him now. He

done built a pyramid and was in a cult before CNN. Nah, buddy. Oh, you need to know more. I tried to go find some

docks. There's that much docks. 100%. Look at them. I'll tell you more.

Told you. June 2nd. June 2nd. I'll tell you June 1st. June 2nd. What does that mean? June second. I like to I like to

pace these things out monthto month. That's Oh, right. right. Oh, hell no.

Dead ass, man. I'm going to fight. Who pulled a pyramid story out of it? Backpock. I build a pyramid. Knock it

the [ __ ] off. That was insane. And tried to just do it like casually like, "Oh yeah, I built a

pyramid." Cuz I I had told this story before, but only only Flip was listening. No, you didn't tell up here.

Not up here. No. You [ __ ] on spaces or something, man. Flip. Didn't I say it right there? You did. You did. Spaces.

Flip and money. You heard it. Spaces. space. Yeah, they don't make the allegations yet, but

we sit right there. But it's all good. It's all good. It's all good. Well, is there anything you want to say to the new audience that we've acquired in the

last few weeks? The your uh Oxford Academy, your your educators and Kev on

stage? I got like I got nothing. Anything you want to say to them? Cuz they they don't seem to be

leaving either. I got nothing. All right. I got nothing. Big Parks is in the building.

What's Po is in the building. Cory's here, Ian here, Ke is here, Erikson is here. There's too many people here to

name. Uh, this broadcast is brought to you by, fueled by, powered by Prize Pitch. Prize Pitch

Gang. And before we go any further, oh,

clear out. Boy, it was a lot of chitchat from the

experts, the analysts, the retired NBA players. Oh, okay. Here

we go. I got to do a part. Yeah, you got to know. I was going to I was going to call Jerry Jack

still just to see what you pissing [ __ ] is up to. But uh yeah, everybody

on ESPN and FS1 and anybody with a microphone, the conversation seemed to

be what what had the greater odds, the Knicks getting swept or this going to six? I thought

that was offensive. I did uh Brian

Winhurst, he said the Nick Shoe, and I quote, a ticker tape parade, if this

indeed gets to six games. Y'all were talking like the Celtics were the 96

Bulls, the 2017 Kevin Durant Warriors, whatever year that was. Y'all was

talking like these was just And it is a great team. Really expensive team. Can't wait

for them to break up after this year. Wow, it's awesome. But all we did is go

into your building, get down by 20. I turned the

game off. I was tight. That was that was I was tight when I went on Twitter at the other night. Let y'all take every three in the world. Let y'all grab every

long offensive rebound to clang off the front of the rim. let y'all get us in

foul trouble. Let y'all get call Anthony. I'm not even going to call him that cuz he was straight cap for most of

the game. The best ability is availability. And he wasn't even on the floor. We let y'all do all of that only

to come back and steal game one. And still the next day they don't say, "Hey,

go Knicks for stealing game one." They say the Celtics gave it to you. They did. You disagree?

Thanks. So, thanks. That's true. Thanks. I mean, you win is a win. You can't you

can't give me something uh if I don't extend my hand out, but I'll take it. I got to do my job and you giving me something. Yes, they blew it. And he

literally took it. The Celtics blew it. Yeah. Okay. Also, Jaylen Brunson is the

NBA's clutch player of the year for a reason. So, in the event that this game gets close in the fourth quarter, you

feel good. We have some Yeah. and say what you want. Them Celtic n them Celtic [ __ ] is injured and danged up. Get

these old ass [ __ ] the [ __ ] out of the building as he now I'm done talking nice. I don't want to talk stats no

more. Shayla Brown, James Brown, Antonio

Brown, Bobby Brown. Round up the [ __ ] Browns. Knicks at six, [ __ ] I ain't

talking stats no more. The [ __ ] is you talking about? You really think the Knicks going to win the series, huh? You really think the Knicks going to win the

series? Who knows? cuz he you know the next question is going to be a bet.

Zire hit me immediately. Yo, I still got the Celtics. You want to bet? I got the Celtics. No, [ __ ] Get off my phone.

Cuz you know goddamn well the Knicks ain't going to win this series. I don't know that. What I saw last night was a

dinged up a dinged up Boston. Porzingis left early. Drew Holiday for as great of

a defender as he was on Jaylen Brunson. He wasn't himself. He wasn't

himself. Uh Jason Tatum, I think a large reason for the Celtics making a jump this year is his consistency and his

superstar role. Yep. If he's going to go back to being inconsistent like last night.

And if Jaylen Brown and them [ __ ] are going to act like it's just a cakewalk or read your own press clippings, then

yeah, [ __ ] Nick's in six. Nicks in six. I think the [ __ ] is we talking about? I think you're overthinking it. I

think I think the Celtics played the worst game they could possibly play. So did the Knicks. That's the worst coaching of the worst coaching. And and

and so did the Knicks. And you still need overtime to win. I think we didn't need overtime to win. That little layup

at the end of the game is a make 99% of the time. Stop it. That's Don't be stupid. That's not That

doesn't If he made what he missed. Well, yeah. If the Celtics made the threes that they I mean, all I'm saying is the Celtics are a better team. I also don't

say you need overtime to win if you come back from however much they want. I'm just saying I'm just saying is

difficult. It's hard to match again is all I'm I don't think the Celtics going to play that bad again. And I don't think y'all have the the talent to beat

them in in six or seven games. Hey. Hey buddy, it's the Celtics that are in a must-win situation right now. This talk

doesn't align with that. Here's another piece of it. Are you going to the Knicks games? Game three. Oh yeah. Celtics. You

should say, "Oh, man. Celtics in five or six." Now in the back. You ain't won a game. They ain't won a game. Y'all

couldn't be Rice High School right now. Would you [ __ ] don't do that to write,

man? No, I don't want to hear all that [ __ ] I don't want to hear all that [ __ ] right now. We up 10. Must win for the

Celtics. Hey, and that building sounded a little nicky last night. Sounded a

little nicky last night. Yeah. Fix your [ __ ] faces. We're in New York. What's

up? I'm down, [ __ ] What's up? I'm with you. We won. [ __ ] is wrong with you [ __ ] keep that

same energy at game four, game five when y'all down three to one. He won't. And when they and when they go out 4-1, he going to be like, "Yo, we ain't even

look forward to winning." I said in the beginning that we wasn't going to win. We do rebuilding blah blah blah blah

blah. That's exactly what he going to say. [ __ ] ass boy. That's exactly. What them [ __ ] been a

puss boy? [ __ ] have a boy. They don't say they don't say [ __ ] puss boy. Yeah, we a we don't want to hear none of that

[ __ ] One nothing. Indeed. You dropped the ball later. Done. That's it. You're done. That's it. I ain't even going to

DM Tatum. We talking before the game. [ __ ] that, [ __ ] Now, don't do that. Don't Don't do it. Please do it. Talk

[ __ ] Talk crazy to him. No, no, no, no, no. Leave that one alone. I blew my

prospects back yesterday. Don't talk crazy. [ __ ] There's nothing much to say. Lose spanky. Go Knicks. What a win.

Feels great to be up one nothing with the Celtics in a must-win situation. And then Nick Nick's up two next game. 200

next game. Since they want to be soft. I felt like such a [ __ ] Since they want to be soft about it. I turned on that

game and saw the score and I was like, "Fuck, I guess we watch the Met Gala." Yeah.

Let me go look at the gowns. I put the I put the game on the phone. Congratulations to the Knicks. I'm

certain that we'll talk about this uh a little later on. Oh, for sure. Uh where do you guys where would you guys like to

begin? We can start with the Mega Gal if you want. I see you were in your fashionista bag last night. You know I was going to be

in my fashionista bag. Your story I felt bad for you cuz I was like I wish Shade was here cuz that was like my favorite [ __ ] in the world is sitting around with

my girl who is the nicest human being I think I've ever met in my life and just [ __ ] on people for three straight

hours. Even though a lot of people were super fly but the people that weren't Yeah. they were getting it. Yeah. I have

to say man well actually I won't start. How's it Did any did anybody else see some of the outfits some of the red

carpet? Mhm. I saw we saw some of the outfits. Yes. 79% of white people looked

a mess. Yeah. It seemed like they didn't really get what the theme was. They thought that What was the theme? The

theme was super fine. Dandism. Dandism. But the the theme it was called black

tailored fly [ __ ] Yeah. And old to suits

and ties and just and tailorism. Got you. Black the fly [ __ ] Yeah. So I think

that when they heard super fine, you know, um, you know, black tailoring, they just thought black. They thought

the stitching itself should be black. And it's like, you know, that's not what they meant. Yeah, it was bad. 79% of

white people looked an absolute mess. Who are some of the ones that look the worst? So, well, first it was co-chared.

It had four co-chairs. It was ASAP Rocky, Lewis Hamilton, um Coleman Domingo, and um and Farel, and all four

of them looked incredible in in all their, you know, various different ways. Like, um Coleman Domingo's first outfit

was like a nod to Lewis Hamilton [ __ ] was fire. It was. Are we not going to talk about people that we thought didn't

nail it? Let's absolutely [ __ ] on a thousand%. We'll [ __ ] on nail it. Forel

didn't nail it. I didn't like the people that Forel dress like Doi. I love Doi. I didn't like the way I thought Louisie

had an amazing night. So, I'm not [ __ ] on them. I'm just talking about Forel specifically with the 10,000 pearl

20,000 pearl blazer. Superfly. I just don't think it did what it needed to do

in pictures. It was very calm in pictures and I just

Oh, I see. I'm looking at it now. Yeah. Yeah. I like it. But I like it too. Actually, I like it. I like The

thing is I think that it translated it probably translate translated a lot better in person. Um like he's like the

creative ambassador for Louis Vuitton. Um so Zenaia who was one of the best

dressed on that carpet. Oh, I disagree. What? She she's usually way better dressed than she was last night. But it

but she re she that was literally the theme. That was it. You know, she had like a Louis Vuitton tailored zoot suit.

That [ __ ] was [ __ ] incredible. But there's a difference, I think, between nailing the theme and looking like

spectacular. And she looked great. Like she always looks great. But I I guess agree to disagree. I thought she looked spectacular. Well, she I thought she

nailed the theme and looked spectacular. Zena. Yes. Yes. Diana Ross is another

one that shut down the car show, massive train, and it had the names of her children and grandchildren embroidered

on it. Um Rihanna of course shut down the carpet. Soft launching baby number

three. Congratulations. And a Mark Jacob outfit and just she killed it as well.

Mar Jacobs had a good night. I mean, Mar Jacobs had a real good night, too. He He really did. What do you think of Coleman Domingo?

I Yeah, he wore he wore several though. Okay. So, the first one was a nod to um

uh Andre Leon Thally, the the big, you know, the electric. Yeah. The purple

blue, whatever color that was, the shawl, the long over the ornate. I want to say that that was Valentino. Oh, that

first look was Valentino. Okay. And that second look I You didn't ask me. He killed both those looks. The second look

was Valentino, too. The great the great you talking about the gray with the J. That was the flying [ __ ] The black and white [ __ ] with that. Absolutely fire.

That was Valentino. That [ __ ] look crazy. I think that also I think that everybody that did the the two look

thing crushed like uh like Domingo uh dancing Idris when he came out in the

race car [ __ ] The [ __ ] underneath it was at first I was like, "What is this bullshit?" And then once he took the [ __ ] off, that

suit underneath was fire. Damn. No, I got to find out who that was. Um, Tessa Thompson was another actress that really

killed it. She looked great. She looked incredible. And I really like Doi's outfit. Cardi, I didn't care for that.

Cardi inspired me. Carrie Washington. I like I love Carrie Washington. Um, uh, Janelle Monae, but she, you know, it's

[ __ ] was super simple, but I liked it. Yeah. Who was Usher wearing? Uh, pull

uh, Ralph Lauren. Ralph Lauren, which is probably I thought Burberry had uh, I thought Burberry had one of the best

nights. Uh, I'm not gonna let y'all just smooth over Cardi like that. That was a Burberry look. Amazing. Cardi looked

incredible. She did. Um, if I'm not mistaken, her manicure took

like two [ __ ] days. God damn. Yeah. Like I mean it it it's at least six

figures per outfit. Like that's how like that's just the whole production for each person that goes there, you know.

Um Jodie Turner Smith was my look of the night. She was Burberry also. She looked

great. The burgundy Jodie Turner Smith and Tiana

Taylor. Oh, Tiana. I also we that's what we were watching was the Vogue stream which was Tiana and I can't remember the

SNL actress's name and LA and it was great. Yeah, Tiana Taylor is a [ __ ]

Tiana Taylor was natural at this [ __ ] She is um she was dressed by Ruth Carter. Exactly. Who's like an

Oscarinning um costume designer. Exactly. Like from Black Panther and a myriad of other films, but Tiana Taylor,

I love the outfit. Love Tiana Taylor probably has to get outfit of the night for me because of the duality, right?

Like with the theme being fly men suit tailoring and all that. She did that to

a tea. Uh, but the heel was feminine. I want to say that was Marc Jacobs. Uh,

the do-rag under the [ __ ] under the hat, the layers, the texture. She

absolutely smoked it. I expected nothing less from Tiana Taylor. Uh, and again, great host. Big Harlem. Great great

host. Big Harlem. Big T. Uh, who else I want to talk about?

Uh, Lewis Hamilton. Lewis Hamilton. Uh Louis was in was in Wales Bonner.

Wales Bonner. That look, that clean aesthetic. That hat. That hat. Oh my

god. Yeah. Parks your boy. Um Bad Bunny. He He looked crazy. Incredible. He

smoked. He went crazy. That hat I want to say that he was Prada. I know. Yes,

it was Prada. I believe I want to say that was Prada. Bad Bunny looked amazing. that that custom uh custom hat

that they put on him which was like a traditional Puerto Rican hat thing kind of goes in the theme with the album he's

doing and the tour he's doing and the bag smoked a lot of people I thought uh went wrong in their choice of bag I

don't recall who it was but somebody had a briefcase of roses I didn't think that was necessary uh some of the bags were just off but that bad bunny bag oh was

that a bag on uh the back of Andre 3000 shaped like a piano I thought we were going to hold that one off to the end I

just I was talking we'll save I just wonder whether Okay, we'll save that for later. But um

yeah, the a lot of the outfits that we're describing, they were like that was it was really sensational and they

really stayed on theme and it was such it's a dramatic turn from the people who

didn't stay on theme. I think the men were smoking the women's boots a little bit. I would agree with you. I would agree with you a lot. Which I guess the

theme lends it to it. Yeah. I mean like the whole you know dandy choir that was

really interesting you know haven't really still settled on how I felt about

it. Wait a dandy choir? Yeah. You didn't see the choir of um black men singing?

Yeah. Yeah. What do you mean you don't know how you felt about it? Um I guess it was kind of it was in

theme but then it also kind of I don't know. It almost had like

a I don't know like a like a like a I don't know. No. Yeah.

What? No, I'm I'm just I'm trying to find the words. I'll I'll I'll find the words, but it just had this like kind

of haunting kind of quality to it. I don't know if that's the right word, but

I think so. It looked It looked jack and jealous to me. All right. Neither one of y'all will be

delegations. Ain't no mountain.

Let's go. That was scary. That was scary to you,

man. No,

y'all. What? Just be aware. No, I'm I'm

not saying anything bad about it. I thought that they I thought it was great and I loved the uniformity of their

outfits. I loved all of it, but it just kind of like had a haunting quality. And I don't know if it's because I'm thinking about the history of dandism

like the original like the history as far back as it goes that that was what they were trying to convey or maybe

that's just something I was picking up on. I think what is the history of dandy? If I'm not mistaken the history

of dandism the original like the origin point is like slave masters were bored

as [ __ ] and like to dress up their slaves in their clothes. I don't know if you're doing anything. Okay. I don't I don't know. I can't comment on it. Okay.

I somebody can correct me, but if I'm not mistaken, this is something that I read somewhere. Black dandism sort of it

Yeah, that's not wrong. It's I mean dandism goes before slavery in a certain way and the stylized figure, but the

black dand is like an interesting person because of how he got stylized during slavery, but also after like when black people could buy their own clothes, we

got fly as [ __ ] Yes. To me, but and it was also reflective of just how much

economic um you know, security and power we had during after slavery, which was

which we were robbed of. Yeah. You know, black dandism is a cultural practice in a form of self-expression where black

individuals, particularly men, use fashion and personal style as a tool for resistance, identity negotiation, and a

challenging societal norms. Mhm. It's just not about dressing well, but also about using siral choices to assert

agency, reclaim narratives, and push back against negative stereotypes. Exactly. Exactly. Reclaiming the

narrative is the the origin point and then the fact that they continue to do it. My my point was it kind of resembles

um a little Jack and Jill. You know, Jack and Jill. Yeah. Right. And um I

guess maybe it's in line. You know what Jack and Jill is, right? Jack and Jill is like Jack and Jill is like a a

wealthy black organization and um they have catillions and balls and such and

so that's what I attributed it to. You know what I'm saying? As opposed to something haunting. I looked at it like

it was almost a old to that. Yeah, that's maybe I still got sinners on the

brain where I'm thinking about like you know just like the historical context of what we watched, you know. I feel you.

Yeah, that I guess I just still have cinders on that. I think that's the beauty of it, right? Like, you know, we we got it's art and it's up to interpretation. Yeah, for sure. And we

to me it just reminded me all those moments with black people who thought history got fly when we could cuz a lot of time what happens after slavery they were saying why are these black people

spending their money on clothes? Exactly. And it was like well because when we were in slave we couldn't wear what we wanted. Right. So why would why

would they buy these parasols? That was one of the big why would they wear paras cuz white women were wearing them and we had to take care of these white women

and now we can dress ourselves use our money for our thing and we got flat but we look way flatter than they ever did. So when I saw last night, that's what it

reminded me of. It's like a re a rebellion against stereotypes. So, you know, that's what Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. And a couple a

lot of people like um couples, it was their date night, so they dressed similarly like uh just real quick, just

real quick. I know. I know. I know. I see if cuz we can't make that all that

slavery dandism point and just move on to couples. I don't think I I understand

what you're saying for most people having watched the Met Gala throughout the years. Mhm. It's white as [ __ ]

Yeah, I was about to say that too. Like it's another one of those events where [ __ ] in years past it's felt haunting

for me looking at how white it is, what some of the oldfashioned houses stood for and how they parade out black

entertainers as if we're dog and pony. So I'm I'm with you there. This year I

didn't tend to I didn't feel like doing the deepest of dives. It felt great that

that [ __ ] was ultra black. Yes. Extra black. It look great. Everywhere you

turn beautiful black glowing glistening skin, lthered skin,

hairing the extra pieces. [ __ ] was on their coming to America bag on this day.

Everywhere you turn, it was just black people looking beautiful. The choir, uh,

I thought was a great touch. Me, too. I felt like somebody asked the black person, "Hey, what should we do here to

make this extra black? Go get a [ __ ] choir and have them sing Wade in the water." Listen, we've seen pictures in

the past, not a lot, but we've seen pictures of some of the food they they have eaten in the Matt Gala. This year

was the first year it felt like collard greens was in there. Yeah. This year is the very first year where it felt like,

"Oh [ __ ] them [ __ ] is going to eat turkey wings and [ __ ] just mad black food." Like that was great. Yeah. People

that are and and the food was from Red Rooster. No, wasn't it um Chefwame?

I don't know if Chefw. Chefwami I thought it looked great, too. I think he was the chef. I could be wrong about that, but Tiana mentioned that. Let's

go. So, turn it up. Tiana mentioned that. Come on, man. I could be mistaken.

I would have thought Melba was in there chefing it up. ChefWami, perfect choice. Hey,

that's where I was on Saturday. Sorry. I mean, I I said I went to dinner. I just didn't want to say where

I was. But why? I mean, you know. Nah. [ __ ] out of here. You talking to You talking to the dawn, [ __ ] You talking

to the dawn. Watch out your [ __ ] mind. I get what you saying, but you talking to the dawn, [ __ ] Listen. Okay. more on the duck's back.

He was He was the uh chef. So, come on, man. Them white people was in there eating flavors they never imagined.

Yeah. Some of y'all never been to Tatiana. Uh amazing restaurant out here, but some of some of the flavors and the

marriage of them. Them white people was having a blast in there with that good food. Fingerlicking. Yeah. Uh had to get

some baby wipes from out the bathroom. What is it called? The wet the wet wet. The wet wet.

The wetslet was go ahead. No, go ahead. I

was going to ask you, was that on your bucket list? Uh, what? Matt Gala. No, that's not for me. If they invited,

would you go? Yes. Who Who asked me? Anna Winter. I

was going to ask you guys. Anna Winter asks you to go to the Met Gala. No, I

meant like Oh, which designer? What fashion house? Marc Jacobs.

I don't want No, no, no, no. Uh, Rada, I don't know. Louis Vuitton. No,

you you use you have enough of their [ __ ] on. You wouldn't do I don't really have a whole lot of their [ __ ] Okay.

Who's the designer that would make you most likely to say yes? Um, it was Valencia asked you. That's what I was

thinking. No. Uh, no. And I want to shout out Fear of God. See, that's what made me think of it. I forgot who that

was that I saw rocking the Fear God. It looked great. A great Fear God look at

the Met Gala. Yeah. However, as much as I love Fear God is one of my favorite brands, I'm not certain that I would

show up to the Met Gala if Fear of God asked me because I'm not showing up in this

environment with this aesthetic. This aesthetic fits you more than it fits me.

Well, I guess it depends on what the theme would be. I thought Tom Brown had a night too, by the way. He did. Oh,

yeah. Tom Brown is uh Janelle Monae. Uh Tom Brown was that one. I would I would

have rescended my I didn't like Janelle Monet's really square. But what about

the look underneath it? Better. I I thought she ate. What's that? Um what's

that little uh Monica? Yeah, I love that touch. I thought Savannah James went

crazy. She did. She went absolutely. It depends on who asked me. And I got like

I got an invite to go to some of the Met Gala after parties last night and not my it was raining.

Them [ __ ] was going to be there looking as beautiful as could be. I was going to be there and

[ __ ] looking ashy in the corner. No shape up. No fresh baldy. Yeah. No. No.

I'm cool. I'm cool on that. My days are being a dusty [ __ ] in the corner in the

club. Those days are over. Yeah. Well, it was clear that um the the

four co- uh co-chairs, they really let them run the show. Yeah, that was clear.

So, it was that it was it was really dope. It was really dope. And like I was saying, date night for Swiss and Alicia.

They wear, you know, outfits that looked Yeah. Exactly. The carpet The carpet design was fire, too. Mhm. Yeah, it was.

Everything about that. The carpet design, you know what I mean? Yeah. I like I like pushes. I loved it. Another

one. Louie and on and on brand for him. Yeah, look great. Yeah, push was Lou

Dwade and uh Gabrielle Prada. I I like I like Swiss and uh I like

Swiss and Alicia. Shout out to Swiss with the burgundy do-rag. Yeah, [ __ ] We always repping. We always repping. Uh

what you think about what y'all think about uh Future? Cut his hair. Future. Was that Chanel? Chanel had a big night,

too. Louie. That was Lou. I did not care for Future. Louis had a night. Let me

look. He look Louis Chanel, Burberry, Tom Brown. For me,

that was the night. So, who looked bad? I would put too much positivity up here.

I would put Future in that bag. He looked like he was in bag. Oh, I'm looking at future. Yeah, I did. I was

not a fan of Chapel um Chapel Bronze outfit. She just It looked like a continuation of what she wore at the

Grammys. Well, basically what she wears on what she wears. So who a chapel ran

do the girl that cleaned up at the Grammys and and had that and had that really great speech. She um just she's

mad colorful and sequins and stuff. She didn't really look a message. Just it just didn't seem like on brand on theme

whatsoever. It just looked like a continuation of what she consistently wears for her stage performances and

stuff like that. So I just wasn't impressed with her. Um, if we're talking about people who just didn't do the

theme but maybe looked amazing, Sydney Sweeney,

I don't know. She She looked great. The big She got the big dough eyes and the nice boots and [ __ ] like that. Little

white girl. Yeah. Beautiful dress. You beautiful gowns as you know Artha Franklin would have said, but I don't

see another white person that just thought let's wear black. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's what Kim did. She just

wore black. Okay. Yeah, that was Whoa. Slow down. I didn't I didn't like it. She didn't just wear black. That was

custom chrome hearts. Fair. Fair. Fair. Uh it was a statement on in that

environment to wear custom chrome hearts. Uh San her accessories. I love

the hat. I'm not going to say I necessarily love the look cuz I'm not a big chrome hearts guy, but I love that

Kim is always the one to make a statement like Lady Gaga used to do at the [ __ ] uh like I like the celebrity

the make a statement celebrity. You should try something different. I just didn't She should try something different because she has been doing

that silhouette look forever and ever and ever. It's tired. That hat was It

was a nice hat, but not for that. Like, hey, let's just let's just throw a [ __ ] fedora on. No, that wasn't just

a fedora. It was not that [ __ ] creative that look. And then ass on display. Whoa. News at [ __ ]

11. Wow. groundbreaking. You know what I'm saying? The [ __ ] Okay, give me your

background. Listen, she's a beautiful girl with a beautiful body. We always [ __ ] see it looking exactly the

[ __ ] same. She did nothing to wow

anybody as far as I'm concerned. Like, it was it was boring, basic, and and not even Do y'all have history?

[Music] You did turn it up a notch. I was like, damn. Not really. I didn't I didn't like the outfit either, but Oh, that's not

true. I'm I can't critique without being personal. But do y'all have a history is all I'm asking. I wouldn't say that.

Yeah. That's not enough. Have you ever met? Yes. Have you ever

been in the same party? Yes. We've been in the same country. Yes. Haiti. Well, you're in the same country now. Been to

Haiti, [ __ ] I remember that. Wait, huh? You both live in America. What the hell you talking about? We Americans. She was in Haiti together with with

them. Mhm. And you know, are you gonna say it? So Ford and Kim K. You want me

to say it or you gonna say it or you want to move on? You know the T flip? I do. Flip. I'm not gonna let him say it because he always [ __ ] it up. All

right. So tell us what happened. Kim Kardashian told the lady that invited you there and she want she tell the

story. Tell the story. Okay. The first time this story was told was on my old podcast, I'm here for the food. And I

never wanted to say it. Way more millions listening now. Let's do that.

to say this is a brand new story to be true. That's what I'm talking for. For the sorry to you five people who are

already it's about 7 million out there now. You sure you want to reshare it? Yeah, ma'am. You know, I am thinking it

to us. Um, okay. This was in 2011, the I believe it was uh 2011, the year after

that massive earthquake. Okay. So, humanitarian efforts, a lot of people going over to Haiti. Um, and uh I was uh

I was invited to go and I was there with Marcia Dyson. Marcia, shout out to Marcia. Marcia was like my, you know,

like like a surrogate mom to me, you know, very protective of me. And this was maybe like a few weeks after she had

enulled her marriage to what was that boy's name? Chris, right? That 72minute

marriage, right? Um, and so a lot of hate sprinkles. It's not It's just a

fact. It's just a fact. And so what And so what happens when you But that's not a fact. It was more than

72 days something like that. Okay. Okay. Anyways um so she was catching a lot of

like flak for that. And so what happens is a lot of celebrities go into um

crisis management during that time. And so crisis management oftent times looks

like charity and humanitarian missions and [ __ ] like that. So she ended up in Haiti and I ended up in Haiti. And why

were we there? We were putting on a Christmas party for children from six

orphanages. I also went down because I was working with this company called Bondoms, the only blackowned um condom

company. And I brought I'm going to take all that. Okay. Well, it was the blackowned girl. Okay. Sorry. Sorry.

Anyways, um, so we met just [ __ ] sneak a little ad in there. She just

think she didn't girl we cuz it was part of why I went down there as well. We got

that. Okay. So, we met and she was she was cool, you know. Hi, nice to meet you. Whatever. And then her mom went

over to Marcia Dyson and she said, "Um, yeah, uh, Kim's uncomfortable with

Melissa being here. Can you send her home?" And Marcia was like, "That might be your

daughter." No, the [ __ ] she did not. She was like, "That might be your daughter, but that's my daughter. She's not [ __ ] going anywhere." They let you

stay in Haiti. You said like she was a ste like I

wasn't there for her. I was there for the I was there for the children. They let you stay. That was that that was why I was there. So, did you Did you go on a

plane and just chill for a little bit? Did you try to act like you wasn't there no more? The Four Seasons Porter Prince.

She was Did she go through this? She saw a whole lot of soccer that weekend. Here's the

thing. She be one orphan. Here's the thing is I don't necessarily know if that was in fact true. If that's why if

if she was in fact uncomfortable, but that is what she said to Marcia. Marcia

relayed this story on my podcast. It was it was it was just Did you ask why? What

were you wearing? You don't ask those questions to a lady.

What was she wearing? Hm. What was she wearing? Oh, no. No. It had nothing to

do with what we were wearing. Exactly. What were you wearing on me? Huh? Did you have it on?

I had on like a lovely summer dress. Oh, yeah. You got to go. Yo, get this girl

out of Haiti, please. We were flying out. We were around digging. Hey, go on the pilot for me

immediately. Yeah, just pull right up to where this [ __ ] is standing.

We get her out of toast. Oh yeah, we got to go. You got to leave Haiti. Yeah. Well, oh, the Kardashians let you stay

in Haiti. Whatever. Whatever. Was it nice to you after that? We didn't have any other contact. Of course, I re I

reiterate. So, you were blacklisted. I reiterate there for the kids. That was

why I was there. and to bring, you know, in a nice dress to put on, you know, to

decorate. No, this was the there was like multiple things going on. So, we were like at a dinner with dignitaries

and [ __ ] like that. Okay. Go ahead. Go ahead. Regging the memories short circuit.

All right. This is my question to you, though. Oh, you bet. In the event that the Kardashians wanted to kick you out

of Haiti and then wore a chrome heart dress to the Met Gala, you would be able to say if that looked great, even though

she wanted you nowhere around in Haiti, right? You're that type of objective.

Yeah. I think that she's had amazing outfits. Okay. In the past before Haiti.

No, I'm just in general. Like other Met Gala appearances that she's made, I

think she looked great. this particular outfit. Take her out of the outfit, put somebody else in it. I have the same

criticism. All right, here's a question for you first. Here's a question for you. Why do you think

the [ __ ] always say that about you? Like, why do you think they be wanting Get her out of here. What do you be Why

do you think be wanting to clear you like that, girl? I don't know. I mean, like, I You be Listen, let me tell you

something. Be extra nice to bitch's husband. There's no Hey, Chris, get up.

There is no Hey, Dwayne. Gabrielle, I'll kick your ass. Don't even start. Don't

even Don't even start those narratives. That's nasty. I take that back. That's nasty. But you are extremely nice to

people. Yes, I am. I am a very nice person. But let me just But let me just make this clear. I could I just don't

even understand like how woman another woman could let you know that you have

her shook like that. Like I could never do that. Like the Wayne that these ventures be letting me know. I got you

shook. That's weird. Oh, now you're shooting it. Can't go there. I know. I know her. Not her. But I mean, like, if

it don't apply, if it doesn't apply, let it apply. Right. If it doesn't apply, let it fly. But that does that make you

feel good that people may feel intimidated when you're there? I to be honest, I feel [ __ ] uncomfortable.

Okay. I feel [ __ ] uncomfortable because it's weird. It's weird behavior. [ __ ] get yourself together. Oh, okay.

Well, listen. Uh Shout out to everyone that was at the Met Gala. Andre's back. We're getting

back to you, Andre. Oh, I wanted to say I wanted to say uh Meg the Stallion. She looked great.

Diana Ross just beat her to the absolutely nothing to do with the theme.

It was a beautiful chrome silver dress look. She looked beautiful. She looked

beautiful. I'm not saying she looked beautiful. Don't Don't think that this has anything to do I'm like male. This has nothing to do with anything I've

said about her in the past. I just don't think it went with

the theme. I think that I think that No, it it was it gave kind of No, it didn't

go with the theme at all. It's okay to say when people didn't go with the theme. It's another name I want to say, but I won't cuz then you're really going

to say that I got a hit list. Tell me in my ear and I'll say it. Um No. Oh, no. Cuz you got to say it then they going to

know I said it. Oh, okay. Well, who tell me it's a little bit Tell I know what you're going to say. Yeah, for sure. Her

I really want I really would like She looked good. It just didn't go with the theme. I'm not going to say it. Yeah, I

really want to know. I want to know who. Don't worry about it. Not important. Yeah. Not important. Okay. Getting out

of there. What are you trying to see? Okay. I think I know now because I can see that. I got far I got farsighted.

But I thought a lot of the white people missed the the most of the white people. Pamela Anderson missed it. Uh, I mean, I love Pamela Anderson. Again, great look.

Didn't wasn't for the theme. Heidi Clume, same thing. Oh, Heidi Clume has given more [ __ ] imagination to her

[ __ ] Halloween outfits. That [ __ ] was trash on that carpet. It just wasn't on Demi Moore [ __ ] was fire though. Demi

Moore is killing the [ __ ] But but with Meg, this is all I want to

say with Meg is Meg's so beautiful and her body is so beautiful and she's

young, but she she got to take a page out of Card's book. And Cardi is

literally she she experiments a lot. She has that relationship with Colin. They

are like, you know, they're they're freaking frack. They design her looks. Oh, Colin. Her stylist. Stylist. She

needs that. Yeah. People don't know me. Um, they do the fashionistas know I'm

they know what I'm talking about. Million people listening. Yeah. Okay. Well, Google Colin and Cardi Kaepernick.

Okay. Well, anyways, Colin Kaepernick and Nessa wearing Monontlair. Shout out to them. Shout out to them. Another one

of the couples on date night. But I just want to say for me, I just want her to start thinking outside of the box and

trying to do things a little bit differently. You know, if y'all do date night at the Met Gallow, are y'all going to have a wandering eye?

I think that's what it's for. I don't I think you get permission. Yeah. Yeah. About to say you have to. There's no

other choice. What's the point of being there if you ain't wandering? Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. How far into the show? I'm sure a

lot of I'm sure there's a lot of interesting uh events after the after party. Also,

Lepita and that color choice, too. Beautiful against her skin. Oh my god.

Yes. Beautiful. Beautiful. Lita. Uh, Quinta Brunson

absolutely loved it. Um, there's somebody else. Uh, don't kill me. Lauren

Hill. She looked good. She looked good. She looked good. Something Lauren Body did. I thought I thought she absolutely

smoked that [ __ ] How do y'all think Future looks without his dress? Come on. Let's have a little bit of fun.

Future looks crazy. Yeah, she looks like I don't care about the hair. It just looks funny. It's weird. I say like the

fit. It's weird. No, we talking about the hair. The fit was a no for me. It's weird. It's a It's a We just That's the

Drez became like iconic two future. Yeah. So it just looks weird. He do look like he got electrocuted, bro. They said

they called him Wanda Sykes, bro. Oh [ __ ] That's a good joke. Yeah. Yeah. That's perfect. Oh, come on. He do look

like Wanda Sykes. That's what they called him. No, he definitely look like That's true. No, he looked a little look

crazy to you. He looked like when you pour the salt on the slug at first.

that [ __ ] start drawing up. Yeah, he look idiot, bro. That hair I'm with Ice. I wouldn't have cut him. Maybe he had a

reason. Maybe he's doing a new look, rebranding. I don't know. But whatever it is, the dreads were a thing. And [ __ ] do get When you cut the dreads,

there's that funny awkward phase. Yeah. Of you looking funny when you cut the dreads, right? Or [ __ ] don't really

And if you look good, like DDG cut his [ __ ] and took a picture with the hair, now you look doofy again cuz you're taking a picture with hair in your hand.

He actually look good without the dread. Like, no, he looks great. Yeah. But then when you take the picture holding the hair on the floor, it does look a little

shout out to DDG. A lot of people in the street uh over the weekend told me his album is hard. A lot of my younger a lot

of my younger heads told me the DDG project is hard. I will check it out. I haven't heard it yet, but shout out to

him. I gave it a quick listen through. And shout out to his community. Had the JBTV uh community [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ]

running scared for a week. Damn. Damn. I remember that. Yeah. Yeah. Now we got call out. We got to call out when the

hives run down on [ __ ] [ __ ] under pressure. Yeah, they came they came in the JBT. JBBT

look [ __ ] with you no more. They came Well, it's the Mark Mark Hill community now. [ __ ]

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game. Uh, okay. We just had a really spirited Andre 3000 conversation on Patreon.

That's true. Yeah, we did. Bad timing. And he must have heard. He must have heard us. Pro three stacks. He must have

heard us. He saw my shirt. Now he showed up to the Met Gala with a piano book bag

on. Seemed heavy. Yes. Or light. I'm not sure. Or awkward at the very least. You're going to smack someone with a

leg. Yeah, for certain. And he seems to have dropped a piano project. He did.

I listen to it and I'm ready to kick it back in. If you're I'm here with you. I was trying to Yeah. not do that. The flu

[ __ ] was cool. I can't really It's like watching hockey or something. I can't really give no analysis on that [ __ ] cuz

that's how I felt. It's like, but keyboards now. I know a little bit about the [ __ ] keyboard. And that was bad

piano playing. That [ __ ] was horrible. Let me tell Lil Bell first, just a little bit. He did announce on his

Instagram that this He did announce on his Instagram that this album was made 10 years prior to the flute album. Don't

care. So, no, but just so people know, he does he's not saying that this is like he's building on his musicianship.

Uhhuh. I just don't know why he released it. He's trolling. You think he's trolling, bro? Yes, I do. I honestly do.

I think he's just he know the excitement of Andre 3000 new album is going to make people say, "Yo, is he rapping? Is he

doing this? Is he doing that?" I think he's like [ __ ] with people now. So, he's putting anything out. He's doing whatever he wants to do, which he has

the right to do. I'm not knocking that. But why is doing whatever you want to do called trolling? It's it's you're trolling your fans. You know what your

fans want. You know, if they see new project, they're going to Hey, we just

want a verse. Give us something. So, I'm going to give you everything but that. I'm not going to give you any words.

This person has not given you any indication that you would be getting words from him anytime soon. I understand that you it's is it's

teasing. So, at this point, the fans, I'm saying, would be trolling themselves. Yeah. I I don't think he's trolling. I'll tell you why. In his

announcement on Instagram, he even said like this was initially supposed to be titled the worst rap album ever cuz there's no bars on. So, so he was

preparing a person saying, "Look, there's no bars. Don't expect any bars. I want title the worst rap album ever." That's what he said, right? That's what

he was going to title it back then, but he held on to it and decided to put it out there. Trolling had he done that. I

think that would have definitely been trolling, but I think he decided not to do that and just put it out. I I think it's more just the arrogance of an

artist that thinks that no matter what their thoughts are, no matter what they do, we we want them like that and the world's entitled to hear them. Like I

don't This sounded like I remember being a high school band. Yeah. And we would just, you know, we mess around and make

little songs. That's what it sounded like. The level of keyboard playing. No, man. This [ __ ] sounded like when I got the one the keyboard when I was eight.

Yeah. The little Casio [ __ ] that you could make it be the drums if you want. You you switch the instruments on it and

you just start [ __ ] around. you have no idea what you're doing or it was bad. That's what that was. There was a couple

good chords there and I feel like this was him learning how to play piano in real time and just release it to people.

No, this was him before he decided to learn how to play piano. No, this is like he learned a couple chords from someone and was like, "All right, I can

put this together." And sort of did, but it was it's bad. Like the dynamics like he's hitting [ __ ] too hard. Yeah. He

doesn't know how to play the piano. He doesn't know how to play the piano or knows minimally how to play the piano. And I wouldn't be mad if he took this

and was like, "Hey, person that is really good at piano, this is my idea. Can you make it good?" And that might

work, but him doing it, bro. Yeah. The one song that didn't suck was the one

where there's suck. Yes. The ones the song that sucked the least was the one that had the or I think it was track six

or seven. It had like the organ playing mansion or some [ __ ] Yeah. It had some other things going on with it. N and I

still didn't like it. And then the one chord the one sort of chord progression that sounded good was just super derivative of of a of a um very famous

jazz stand that's escaping me right now. But it just it just wasn't good. I've never seen an artist put out something where they're just bad at the instrument

and say, "Hey, watch me play this instrument badly." Badly for it's only 15 16 minutes the whole album. It was a

the worst 15 minutes of music I've sat down in a long time. I listened to it for an hour. Let's do it on the drive up

here cuz I was like it's only 16 minutes and I hated every like I I I played it again hoping it would get better. Yeah.

I never played this again. Oh my god, man. Never. I hate all these

[ __ ] Why? Why? I'm going back to what I said, Dice. At at this point, if you're buying these

projects from Andre 3000 expecting good music, I think you bring that upon yourself. Oh, time out. I ain't pay for

this. I stream. He don't get a purchase. He ain't he's off that list. I need to hear this and say, "Oh [ __ ] he gave me

some. Let me go support and buy that." My what I'm what I'm saying is this.

Y'all are having a blast unpacking the sonics of it, right? And great. I

didn't buy the flute album and I won't be listening to this. So, I can't I can't join that. I I didn't hate the flute. I won't buy another one. The

flute album, he he earned my my respect enough. I didn't like it. It felt like I was getting a massage, but at least it

was solid music. You know what I mean? But part of art for me has to be the messaging and the intent behind it and

and what it symbolizes. And I think in m music is the only place where we condense art to just say, "Hey, it

sounds good, sounds bad, it's trash." I don't know how that [ __ ] sounds cuz I don't wake up on a rag and put flutes

and pianos on. So I ain't about to break my I'm not about to break the tradition doing that with him. However, I think

that he is, this is back to my point in our Patreon combo with his album and how it wasn't a rap on it. I think he's one

of the artsiest of the artsy. For sure. Absolutely. And I think that now more

than ever, we should be encouraging artists. You may not agree with how he did it, but we should be encouraging

artists to not only do what's near and dear to their heart, but also to find a

value in it. I will say this. What it made me think of was, hey, it's at least

nice to hear humanity. It's not heavily quantized. It's not reprogram. No, on

the piano [ __ ] that we just listen and all of that [ __ ] Yeah. This is definitively not AI. And that part I

like. Yeah, definitely. But it's [ __ ] bad. AI could do that. Now, to your to your point, yes, in artists, we we do

want artists to explore and and put put their art out, but art is also subjective. So, I could go to a museum

and a artist who bust painting that right there. I could still look at that and say, "Hey, I don't like that." And

I'm entitled to that as as a consumer. Nothing in nothing in what I'm saying is trying to strip you of that, right? So,

I don't I don't want you to reply to that. I think anybody who's trashing him should trash him. I'm I'm just saying

what if he finds who he's looking for? M what if he paid to have it whatever it

is that he's searching for and putting out these uh very eclectic abstract projects,

right? And good for him if he does that. What they said album they said the flute album um the whole entire album was at

like 400 and something megahertz or 432 hertz 440 hertz something like that

which has been quote unquote proven to have certain healing principles and healing power. So if that's his bag and

that's what he's in, then the flute [ __ ] might have had a purpose for him. So you believe that, but you don't believe the Kendrick people looking into lyrics and

[ __ ] If the the the flute people, if it's moving at a certain megahertz, then

that could be proven. I don't know if that was his intent. And again, I'm not that sounds that sounds I'm not saying

that that is it. I'm saying that's what the people are saying. But if that is the entire album is really operating on

that frequency, then that might have been his purpose in his fan base. I think that that was intentional with the flutes, but with the

piano and his outfit, it's like the cart before the horse kind of thing. I feel like the release of this album was

simply just to prepare you for this. Yeah, exactly. The cover is that exactly the cover is literally him with the

sketch of the same [ __ ] he wore to make and also look at the timing. You know what I mean? Like that's that's exactly

going to say he has over 25 years of being intentional. True. and highly you

don't you don't know him to not be intentional. Yes. All true. But this is still intent but not for the purpose of

so that we know we don't know. I'm just saying what I'm saying. No no I the

consumer can say whatever they want. We one thing doesn't negate the other. I keep saying that. Like [ __ ] on them. But

the music business today will do everything they can to keep you confined. Yeah. or in a or in a box.

They'll incentivize you, they'll pay you, they'll bring your friends along or take you to a game, they'll give you a card, they [ __ ] want you off your

feet so you could stay in the box. So, the very few times that we find somebody that's going to say, "You know what? No,

I'm going to do what I want. I find value in that, I'm not going to knock the [ __ ] for that." And as a rapper,

you know how frightening it is for a rapper to think, I can speak to this.

Yo, you know what? I'm never going to rap again. or I'm just not going to rap at the clip

I used to rap. I'mma put I'mma take the thing I know how to do best on the planet and put it on the back burner and

now find something. Dog, that is so bold and [ __ ] courageous that it's like at that point, why do we care what the

retired firefighter is doing with his time? If that [ __ ] finds solace in being in the garage and sewing and

selling it on Facebook, who are we to [ __ ] say, "Yo, that's trash." Well,

and my thought is trash and I get what you're saying, right? I think for me it's that Andre

has 25 years of being intentional has 25 years of putting out high quality art, right? Whether it's visual art, whether

it's the cartoons, whe everything he does is high quality. So, I had a faith in him with the flute album that it

would be high quality. Flute album wasn't for me. Whether or not, I didn't listen to it. No, the flute album was high. That's high quality. I'm saying it

was high quality. It just wasn't for me. That's different. It's high quality. Just wasn't for me. This is the departure for me. Not because it's not

for me, but because it's actually not good art. It's not good. I don't really think that it's a departure, though. I

think in my interpretation, you know, because, you know, art is subjective. I think that this was literally being

treated as an accessory to his [ __ ] outfit. That because because Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Because he had it

for 10, 11 years and never did [ __ ] all with it. Same texture to his friends. Yeah. Exactly. It's only 15, 16 minutes

long. It's unfinished. Whatever. but he happens to release it around the exact same time that the Met Gala comes out

and he has this outfit. I just I'm looking at this as simply just an accessory to the outfit. There's a really really weird accessory. Then it's

then I would I think that's super fly and artsy again. If that's what's

happening unless it sucks. Unless it's a bad boy earrings. Yeah, exactly right.

They just put on a beret. Well, let's be clear. The outfit also kind of sucks. Like so it's consistent. You know, I

have a different reference for Andre. I love Andre. Andre is one of my favorite creatives of all time. Andre, I think we

all up here love Andre. But the love don't mean we can't say, "Hey, we love you." But that ain't it. No, that's

true. That's all I'm saying. However, know that the person you talking about, every step of his career since the

beginning has been people saying, "Hey, whatever you're doing is not it right now." Joe, what do you what do you what

are you not good at? Name something you're not good at. It's math. It's not a math album. Okay. Right. So,

like if you said, "Look, I I'm retiring from rap because I'm not going to do rap anymore. I'm going to do something else." You podcast it. You're great at

the shell method and the disc method. I think I think podcasting is the

perfect example. I just don't want to [ __ ] take it there right this second, but it's the perfect example. Yo, I'm going to not rhyme. I'm not I'm not

going to produce high quality art. I'm going to just look. Yeah, but it's a little that's a little different because

in your rhyming you were still expressing yourself. You were talking you were just doing it rhyming

and on beat. So you still talking I'm only talking about from the POV of the person that has to make the change.

Right. Right. But I'm saying as the consumer of that change. If you decided to say I'm going to now make um I'm

going to start web streaming math math tutoring sessions and all your math problems are wrong and all your

equations are off. As a consumer, I'm like, "Yo, this isn't what I this isn't what I expected. It's not a perfect

comparison. My point is just I like I like the comparison." And stay here for a second. It's a bad comparison because you could prove the math. You could

prove the math to be correct or incorrect. But I want Let me respond to them. Let me respond to it cuz I like

it. Leave those things. I like those things that y'all trying to take out. I went and started a math

club and all of my math was wrong. Yeah. and bad and sloppy and defied all of the

things that math yada yada yada yada yada yada I then go to

amass a following of 10 million people let's call it year

one not only are they going to come up with a new name for my

math but this bad math is about to be a thing now because I've amassed this

audience So, who is it on me to why is it on why would it be on a person to say, "Well,

we shouldn't start that person so fear-based. We shouldn't start that person with, "Hey, everything you about to do is wrong, so you shouldn't do it."

Right. And I'm not at the should level. I'm I'm saying as a consumer cuz I I take what I It's saying seriously, right? You're right. It's not a good

comparison because there's an objectivity to whether math is right or wrong. But what I'm saying is as a consumer, I have a right to say, "Look,

I expected great things from you because you given me great [ __ ] and and now this is shit." That's all I'm saying. And when I hear the flute album, I'm like,

"This isn't for me. It's great. It's just not for me." When I hear the piano, I'm like, "This is actually technically, it's not quite math objective, but this

is technically bad piano playing." I could also just say, as someone who produces music and who is not a world-class musician, who works with

other people that are not a world-class musician, it's okay to say, "Hey, I have this idea. I can't fully execute it. Let

me get someone who does." Right? And that's all he can. I think that's fine. He's still a composer. could still be his album, but it's someone that is

really good at piano or at least better than him executing his idea. Like, yo, if Hoveve tomorrow put out an album and

it's him singing all singing, no autotune, none of that [ __ ] but he's singing and he

just sounds bad. He can't sing. He can't hold a note or nothing. It ain't going to take away from Ho's greatness, but we

going to be like, "Yo, my [ __ ] this'll never sing again. Don't say like like we can't tell him that. But as a fan we can be like I don't want to hear you sing it

anymore and I would be like objectively you're off key. Like there are things about it technically that just off me. Wait. And I'm saying y'all should

totally be able to say that for sure. Just leave some space for the people

that want to see how Hoveve distributed this album. What his intent was behind

this album. Cuz if Ho put out an album on his uh on his title [ __ ] and he just

closed the deal with Roger Goodell cuz he knew something was coming down the pipeline and now on all

commercials then I'm going to say he's a genius. He proceeded. All I'm saying is

allow space for the people. We don't I don't know what Andre's intention here

was, but he's been a genius. He's been a genius as long as I've known him, so I'm

just allowing space for it. And if not, we could call him a duck. No, he's still a genius.

Even with this album and the flu album, it's still genius [ __ ] We just don't got to like it. That's I'm not trying to

genius. Yeah. No, I'm off of that. Look, let me ask you something. If if if back in the day, if you were great friends

with Albert Albert Einstein, right? And then I'm leaving this cuz now I'm just coming up with [ __ ] If you was best

friends with Albert Einstein, sounds ridiculous. Sounds nuts to you. Yeah, but you know him to be the

genius. But let's say he got a get a hangover one day. Mhm. And now he just start talking something

that sound like gibberish. It don't It don't sound like himself. Would you

discount it or would you still listen? I would listen. Why? Because he's earned

that cache with me. He's earned that. He got that equity with me by being such a genius that I know him to be. Same thing

with Andre. We run to Listen. Soon as the [ __ ] dropped, press play. He's Andre

is an immediate cop. Well, immediate listen. I ain't paying for it. But once

you hear it, it's like, oh, all right, my [ __ ] You on [ __ ] You just doing whatever you want. You doing what you want to do. Okay, cool. This wasn't

for me. Respect. I think we need more artists that do whatever I think we need

more artist may not like what he's doing. I I end with I think we need more artists that do whatever we have the

freedom to do whatever the [ __ ] they want. Nobody here is is disagreeing with that. We all want to do that. But you

ain't never getting your Rihanna album, [ __ ] Take them flutes and pianos and enjoy it. You're never getting Rihanna.

We want more people to do what they want to do, but at the same time, if it's still We want people to do it and the quality still be good. That's it. Some

people are invested in the art. Freeze. That's it. Art is suggested. There may be a thousand people. There may be

100,000 people. There may be 100,000 people that love this Andre album. What scripts do y'all live by? What? What?

What scripts do y'all live by? What is that? What do you mean by script? No, just what what what script? Uh, for me,

if I had to say, it's probably only my mom and my girl. Outside of that, I'm on my own [ __ ]

time. Whose script are you living out? Nobody's Nobody's on my own. That being said, I

will listen to someone around me. Mhm. And I feel like someone around him must have said, "Hey, bro, what you doing?"

That's all. Yo, what's this? Maybe you could try like do it now that you're a better musician or something. That would

have been interesting to me, too, to hear what what he played what he sounded like now. you probably ain't playing it to nobody and just yo, this is what I

like. He said he said it to his friends on on text. That's that's why I that's why I'm I really lean into this was an

accessory to the outfit, you know. And and who's ever used music as an accessory to an outfit? Let me hold on.

Let me give you a quick example. You were recording Moo Music 4. I remember this. I walked in the crib. You were right into Inception. I walked in the

kitchen and I heard you going, you talking out loud while he's writing. Yo, let's warm it up. Microwave [ __ ] about

to get hot summer. I said, "What the [ __ ] you doing?" Cuz that's not you. You're too good of a rapper to do that.

You was like, "Yo, don't worry about it. I'm doing something with this. You'll get it." Cool. So, you could hear

something that's not the person. Ask them what they doing and they just say, "Yo, I got this." Like you said, Andre

could have told them, "Yo, this is just something to accomp accompany my outfit. Don't worry about it. I got it." And you

let them cook. Mhm. Yeah. Don't charge me for question beyond Andre. If you say something slick to this to this [ __ ]

with the funny flutes and pianos, he gonna bar you to death. I'm just telling you. Well, maybe whatever your ticket to give him to rap. I'll take I'll take

I'll take I'll take it. Burn me up, please. Selfish fiend. If if y'all could

do something completely outside of what y'all do in your life to take a risk, what would it be? Like you know what I mean? Like I like I sometimes think about like writing a book of poems or

doing you mean like you know you think about some [ __ ] that's just completely outside of your wheelhouse that you would do to take that kind of risk. What would it be for you? I'm going be honest

with you. This was a risk for me cuz I hated cameras. I I never was a fan of none of that [ __ ]

I hated cameras and all. And I still got them though. And I still got them though. Well, that's facts. Okay. We

going to put a couple things to bed though. Do that big. Come on. Like that was a risk. I never liked the tension.

Never like cameras and all that [ __ ] So, this was a risk. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah, it makes sense. It makes sense. And he was ugly as hell

when he got here blowing ants off of the microphone. No, he was though. He was

That ain't stop nothing though. Everybody else can answer the question

though. Let's keep the conversation. What film would it be? Film answer. Film like on on screen or no? Uh I don't know

actually. I'm not sure. Something in visual arts though. Like film though. Photography or Speaking of visual arts,

you didn't mention uh Jeff Goldblown. Oh yeah, he look good. When you said film, I had a Jeff Gold. I was I was

cooking. Clean shoe. Clean Jeff muffin. Wash your dishes. That's it. 72.

That's a good one. Wash your dishes. Shout him out.

Still not that guy. He is a smooth dude though. That's the level of smooth you

can only hope to aspire to get at 72 years old. Yeah, he was floating. He's always been

that way. So, [Laughter]

Suave and Devonire. I want to answer Mark's question. It was a good question. For me, it would be um gaming and anime.

That's so far outside my realm. I know nothing about it. It looks cool. It's intimidating to me. Now, you know what

you know about. You know a lot about gaming. You know, you fooling. I mean, I've been in video games. I've been

characters in video games. But I mean like what you was in like Grand Theft um

uh Def Jam's um a couple of them but Death Jam was one and then another one I

can't She trying to steal your thunder, bro. My was crazy. But yeah, that was

that would that would be what what I would do. Yeah. How would you flip?

Probably dancing. Yeah. Tickle toes. Yes, I can see that.

Any particular genre or style? Ballet. Yeah. The Walts. The

Walts. He like hit. He like that old school [ __ ] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. You never thought about dancing

with the stars? Nah. No. Would you do it? I would. Really? Mhm.

Like the wrestling [ __ ] Oh, see. What about the wrestling [ __ ] I don't understand. I don't understand the

comparison. Same wrestling was something you said you wanted to do early on and then uh because of fear you quit and was

scared to put the work. Did you listen to your white counterpart? Did he tell you that? No. Cuz that's what you like to do. You like to listen to the white

man. So that's not what it was. You know that's not what it was. I allowed you No, I didn't allow I was comfortable

with the narrative being put out. That's not what it was. He had an idea. Oh, I

didn't ask you to clear it up. Oh, yeah. All right. All right. I cleared up I cleared them on Twitter when they started talking. They flip. So, she said

if they brought the mask dancer back, what character would you be? Um, Barney.

Buffalo. I'll be Barney. Yeah. I mean, you know,

listen, this is just to continue to take risk. You do that right away, too. That was Just

continue. Yeah. You thought about that. You thought about that. He thought about that. I'm going go back to comedy.

That's funny. It's comedy for me. That's a good one. On stage on stand up. Stand

up. traveling the world back to touring chidlin circuit. I can that that's

comedy. I'd be able to say all the things that I want to say on here, but I don't because they would uh attribute it

to me. Every time you think about it's a bigger risk though cuz you don't pay the audience to laugh.

You know what I'm saying? Like it's scary when you go out there. Have you ever done like a standup set? No. They

thought about it. It's I've I've never done a standup set, but I've like just warmed up crowds, you know, cuz I've hosted comedy shows. That [ __ ] the

moment you tell a joke that nobody laugh at, that [ __ ] crumbles. It's like getting punched in the chest. Okay, but hold up now.

When I say comedy, I don't necessarily want to be good every night. Interesting. Can't be. I would love I

would love to stand there in a tank and go out there and have to deal with a

bomb and work through a bomb to to build character. I want to see how it makes me

feel. I I would want to stand in the tank. I don't just want to be Mr. Perfect. Whatever is you almost don't do

it at your butt and do it as like pre Yeah. So he talked about it for so many years. I just go to one of them little

local comedy joints and just Why? Yeah. Why do you I was just going to ask that. Why every time you think about it you

stop? Like even with that or DJing and you know getting on DJing in front of a

crowd like why do you stop? Why don't you do it? Plenty of times you talked about doing these things and you haven't done it. You'd be a great DJ. You'd be a

great DJ. Yeah. We say that all the time. I I don't know. But sometimes No, no, no. That's not enough. You think

sometimes the music you hear in your head that they not responding to. Same thing with comedy. You got to be able to

get through that when you throwing some [ __ ] on that you think you jamming and they like, "Nah, this ain't it." Yeah.

Yeah. So, it don't necessarily mean because you can play music well don't mean you can DJ well and MC a come true.

You got to be a risk taker. You think you're too old to take risk? Um, no. I just think in answering Mar's

question, that's something that I would want to do if like if I was calling shots, not living by a certain script. But to answer your question why I don't

do it right now, I'm a [ __ ] [Laughter]

I like new Joe. Yo, I like got to have it. Listen, buddy.

Are you done? I'm sorry. I don't have time to stop what I'm on right now. Go

follow my heart. Yo, it's money or passion. I'm not at

the point in life where I'm living for me. Let's experiment and do this over

here. If I was living for me, let's go have at it. So, we back. But what's your

answer? Yes. What would you do? Um, anything public speaking related.

Wait, what? You tried that already though, so that's not really Wait, don't you already do that though? No, I don't

do that. You're so dumb, man. Well, why y'all can't let him share and

be vulnerable before y'all? Well, no. I know what he's saying. He's saying like a like a like a motivational speaker, like a public speaker, like a like

standing in front of large crowds. But isn't that why you went to the DR? That is

beh the the Dominican. But yeah, I mean like that's

what I thought that was. It was like a whole con convention conference that you were

speaking at. I don't like that you stuck on con that long. No. No, I'm I'm being I'm being serious.

Like I feel like being a public speaker. Don't do that. No, that's what I'm saying. It's it's I feel like it's already in his wheelhouse. I feel like

he's good at he's good at speaking and motivating people. I don't know. I feel like we were talking about things that were like that's so far removed from

like who you are. Like

my [ __ ] I don't know what to tell you. I answered it like I don't know what to tell you like I said poems you actually think mine would be something physical

actually cuz poems ain't that far I'm too late I've already started thinking of what a mark on my hill poem book would sound

like too sorry that's going to happen so you know the pyramid and the scheme

but I didn't scheme when I built the pyramid he about to get but I see you in the eyes of the come on by the body a

poem book go ahead mark I think you'll do it I think I actually think I'd want to fight what I think I want to do is

there any way that I could that that I can help you guys. See, why do you hold

on wait? 3,000,000, [ __ ] Why don't Why do you say that to

[ __ ] and you don't help yourself, [ __ ] In order to help us, you get out there and go [ __ ] it. No, [ __ ] the money. So, [ __ ] you get out there and

go, don't play with me, [ __ ] Get out there and do something, [ __ ] I am. Throw a party and DJ. Nah, not yet. [ __ ]

out of here. You told all that [ __ ] all time. I had my laptop with me. I got shook. [ __ ] do it. Motivate. You do

all that [ __ ] but you don't do it, [ __ ] Lead by example. We want to see. Show me. That's That's what you can show me. One day. One day. Maybe. We always

That's That's what our parents used to say. One day. And I want to put out a dog food. Fire. You want to put out a

dog? That's fire. Now you're not talking about dope, right? You got to say more about that. You're not talking about You're not talking about going

back to the streets. Alo, right? That's fire. What you saying? You'll buy it.

It'll be a healthy nose. Scary. What do you mean making a dog food? I'm sorry. I don't understand. Dog food. I love dogs so much. I I can't um I can't explain

here because Okay. IP. But it but it's not just dog food. Like I envision an entire line line of animal products.

Animal products. I said too much. Okay. That's too much. Okay. I got you. Same.

Is that really Is that Is that really something or you just if I'm answering Mark's question to the best of my ability yet? Got it. That's That's

uh No, I'm not. I didn't interpret the question to have to be about fear.

Just far out your wheelhouse. I mean, there's something scary about that, but I I I think of it as a little something. It's a little scary, but got to be. Why

would it be scary? I mean, if you have the platform to promote it and stuff like I mean, unless Yeah. I don't know why that would be. Yeah. I get what Cory's saying, but you have you have the

audience, you have the platform. People are animal lovers. Like comedy, I get the scariness of it. That's fearful.

Speaking I get the scariness of it. Yeah. The anime I think for you is just because it's a different genre stuff you working for a living. What you got to do

is go talk to one little Japanese [ __ ] She'll get it man. Melissa them girls cooking over

there. One piece. She like oh what's that? She'll get it [ __ ] stupid. That's right. Oh

salute. There you go. Salute. Salute. There we go. Yeah. Do you guys care about Rihanna being

pregnant? Congratulations. I knew y'all would say that. So, do you guys care about ASAP Rocky saying that he wears Rihanna

clothes? No, we kind of knew that. That's fire. I'm surprised. Yeah, that that's that doesn't surprise me. Wear

her brand or wear her clothes. Go in her closet and wear some of the articles in her closet. Skirts and Well,

I don't think he said skirts. No, I saw a picture of him in a skirt. I don't know if it was hers, but you know. Was

it a kilt or a skirt? It was a kilt. I saw some skirts before. Well, I don't I don't know if he wears her skirts, but I

don't see nothing wrong. I mean, it depends on what the item of clothing louses and [ __ ] I mean, he's proven himself to be super androgynous. So, no,

nobody, it's whatever. My thing is whatever work for you. I wear my wife's t-shirts, hoodies. That's cuz we wear

same size. Exactly. Hers a little baggy on me, you know. And her jeans probably.

No, I like mine a little tighter, a little thinner. But for real, you joking. Which part- hoodies? We both wear mediums. If

my wife wasn't half my size, I might steal a hoodie every now and again. Slow down you guys. Good boy. But but but

because of you [ __ ] I have moved to larges sometimes.

I don't. In fact, she was looking at my closet last night and I was like, "Baby, you can have the mediums over there." Cuz once I The problem is I could wear medium, but I can't wash it, right? So,

I end up buying a lot of hoodies. I wear But the problem with the large is it's a little too big. Your hoodies.

I wash my hoodies. Yeah. As opposed to what the cleaners cleaners. Oh, I mean when I I send them I get them laundered,

but I'm saying like when they come back, they come back tight. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But good cleaners. Yeah. I need one. I

need you know one cuz only ones you are supposed to be recommending stuff to me.

I need I need one after you buddy. Ain't telling you [ __ ]

Got to be your last [ __ ] shut the [ __ ] up. Yo, who the hell is

recommending? [ __ ] Mark. Don't say that, dude. Please, man. Anyway. Anyway. Yeah. Yeah.

So, congratulations to Rihanna. Yeah. Shout out to Rihanna. What do you say to that? She look amazing. She looked

great. She bodied that [ __ ] too. Oh, [ __ ] We didn't talk about uh the picture of her and Sierra. That was

fire, too. I'm glad they did that. A That was fire cuz they used to have the beef on Twitter, you know, the famous

tweet. One of the most famous tweets of all time. She slaughtered her. Smoked a good luck. She be with a couple people,

huh? those spaces with a couple people, didn't she? Rihanna. No, Sierra. Sierra.

Yeah. I don't know who else Sierra be with. I know Rihanna got Tiana. Rihanna had a couple online beefs. She bodied a

couple people on the Twitter when it was new. Yo, in the 2000s was so stupid. They was

really riding with T's real name is Carl. Oh. Yeah. They tried to Yeah, it

was bugging out. And that [ __ ] spread before the internet. That's what was crazy. The internet is dangerous, yo.

Like that. He had We're not going to regurgitate that. I'm just saying. But she's such a sweet person, too. She is. She is one of the

sweetest people I've ever met. We can't regurgitate that. But we can regurgitate all the slave dandyism. Well, I mean,

because it was a [ __ ] It was a theme, you know. But we're not going to worse than No, it's not. It's not. We're not

going to regurgitate the ugly [ __ ] that they were saying about her. That was that was [ __ ] up. Well, and it's not

true. Obviously not true. Oh my lord. They said you were Rasheed Wallace. So I mean

what which is better than Carl. They said take that over what they were saying about old girl. That's true in

the culture. [Music] He wasn't outside. It's cool. Yeah. I

know who Rasheed Wallace is. Oh, okay.

I would never mix up these two, him and Rashid Wallace. Ever. That's why I'm

curious. I'm confused. But okay, many years ago.

I hate when y'all do I be trying to protect y'all from yselves. Well, you mentioned you mentioned Rashid Wallace.

You want to talk basketball players and Paul Pierce? Oh, we can do that. All right. Paul Pierce has a

um trying to get out of that Paul Pierce has a clip floating around. Um I I sent it to Parks. You got it? I

do. Okay. where he's he's speaking on marriage and uh everybody's thoughts on

it. It's my favorite. You know what I'm saying? Like cuz I feel like every relationship shouldn't be based off sex, but every relationship is based off of

that. That's I don't think so. 100%. You can't tell me nothing different. This is what I feel and that's why I'll never be

in another relationship cuz it's always based off of that. So you're not going to be in another relationship? No. No. For what? Cuz it's going to be based off

of sex. Once that wear down, you going to go find somebody else that's better. Wear down. Yeah. It ain't going to be

based off of this the thing and listen carefully. Listen carefully

relationship smoker jacket. Let me say what marriage is and who's marriage for.

Marriage is for old people and poor people. Okay. So let's get into that and why?

Because when you broke, our parents like my moms and all them, they they married on a merit of like, okay, we gonna put

our incomes together, have all these kids, and then when our kids, we going to have five, 10 kids back in the 60s,

all them, they going have five, 10 kids, so they can work and bring income. Yeah.

So you poor, so you married for that. And now when you get old, somebody to be

by your side to take care of. right now. My my mom got married. My mom never been

married in my lifetime. She got married when she was 70. Wow. It was perfect. She had somebody by her side the whole

way through. So, do you really believe like outside of that, it's no

advantage to a man? Why is marriage advantage? What advantage? What what what does it do for

a man when things go south? Like we going to have to give up half our this

pay child support pay. But what do the Stop talking to a woman. He's almost We

could stop it. But what if you meet a I don't know that I want to hear more. Yo,

he drunk Paul Pierce is one of my favorite people to listen to. Not saying he was drunk here, but he sound, you know, he sounded

he want to let the audience know and I'm talking to ball to y'all. I want to let y'all know Paul Pierce is on the list

for me of people that I don't listen to one word that they have to say unless he's talking about basketball. If if

he's not talking bad, I want to hear him and Kevin Garnett. I want to hear that basketball [ __ ] He's one of the greats. Can't take that away from him. Anything

outside of that scope, he's on the list for me. He sounds like he's speaking

through trauma. That's what he sounds like he's speak. First of all, let's go through the stat statistics about men.

First of all, uh married men are healthier than their single counterparts. That's just a fact. That's

just a fact. I've definitely heard it. Okay. And there's a reason for that because their wives take care of them

whenever you guys Sorry. Your wives do your wives and significant

others do a lot for you. You know, they do a lot of the emotional labor. They do they do a lot. Just hold on. Don't just

just they do a lot of stuff, but they also make sure that you go to the doctor

when [ __ ] is [ __ ] up because they need you. So married men are take are taken care of by their wives. So they are

healthier than their single counterparts. That's number one. Number two, in terms of marriage being for [ __ ] poor people, the majority of uh

CEOs of Fortune 500 companies, almost every single president, millionaires, multi-millionaires, billionaires, 95% of

them are married. Why? Because that indicates stability amongst a whole host of other [ __ ] things. So there you've

got that [ __ ] wrong. Taxes, to your point, yes, taxes. It It's

mutually beneficial to be married rather than being a single person. I can speak to that. Yes. And then furthermore, your

reality is [ __ ] skewed. You've never been married. You've been living in a bubble. Your reality is completely is

not the norm. So if you're associating marriage with just sex that you know the desire dries out and then the woman is

just going to take you for half your worth and your your and sue you for child support. Well, you are you sound

mad bitter actually. Like that's a really really skewed way of looking at love and

companionship. That's that's [ __ ] wild to me. I'm wishing. Yeah. So I will defer to the gentleman in the room to to

the married to the married people in the room. Yes. Absolutely. I mean I do I do agree with Mel. Um stability is is

important. Taxes. Um understanding somebody did Why do you

keep saying that? Cuz you got married young. You didn't have money when you got married. Uh, that's not true. You had money when you got married? I did. I

had the team. I had a team deal. So, I did get married, but I spent the

rest. Look, look who woke up. Look who woke up. Look who woke up. Laugh at my

expense. Keep going. Look who woke up. Go ahead. [ __ ] out of here, man. You had

this. I didn't know you had a sidekick deal. I did. Look, look, man. Look, look, look, look, look at [ __ ] man.

Look, look at the hate. Had a team over there. Who hating you? [ __ ] you did

need to protect the team from his T-Mobile deal. You need to protect the funds from the T-Mobile

deal. At at Okay, at your wife been looking at you like the L I wasn't married yet, but at 20 years

old, bro, $70,000 at 20. When I was 20, it was a lot. I did [ __ ] with it, but it was a lot for me. Yeah, it was it

was short lived. I bought two watches like an idiot. A Gucci car. Gucci cat. A Gucci Gucci cat. No, no, no. That was

before. You're not on the reparations list. Yeah, right. I'll [ __ ] up. No worries. Skipping skipping your house.

You talking about my family? No, I'm talking about y'all not on the reparations. Cuz why we could cuz

we could I'm sorry. You're not I'm not I don't

have that much power. He reported amount of money. For sure. For sure. We got to bust that down. I got to let your

question honestly if you found out your man was on the list but he was you got to split this money. Was he if he he was

Caribbean descent would you really report it? Yes we got to split this money you taking money for black people. [ __ ] are you crazy I'm down with you.

No, no, no, no, no. You Jamaican, but that's

only King. I don't care what I'm on the side of the money.

That was funny. Oh man. Please stop. Freeze. Okay. Are you

finished with your points cuz we're moving around the room? Oh, yeah. Yeah, man. Yes, I'm finished with my point. I'm just saying like marriage, taxes,

taxes. But not only taxes, though. But I do agree with Mel. Like your wife takes

on a lot of responsibilities. Like it makes you more comfortable as a man for you to go outside and get to it and provide. But she's doing a lot of the

inner stuff in the home that you don't realize it's a lot. And it'll be a strain on you if if she wasn't around.

discipline and also discipline. Yeah. Like I have like I have bills. They take care of a lot of [ __ ] that you may tend

to forget. Focus, you know, removing like, you know, all the distractions of the street so you can focus and like

become a better version. Oh, you can be outside and be a hoe. Go some curry chicken. You can be

outside and be I go outside and put some no [ __ ] dick discipline and [ __ ] Go ahead. I mean, if that's the life you

aspire to live, I mean, hey, whatever. Float your [ __ ] boat, [ __ ] You watch your [ __ ] level. Yo, you

marriage does take a different type of discipline. That's why I'm referring to the married people. I want to hear from y'all. But the discipline it take to

look at somebody in the face like every day they face. You ever just see the

shape of every day a good face either look a little different, right? Every

day it faces like shape shift like [ __ ] look at you. Got to stare at you until

one of us die. Okay, Mark. It's a beautiful thing though. This is what I say. He Paul Beer said a couple things

though. First he said like mar relationships take marriage off the table. He said relationships are about sex. I just think that's not true. Sex

are a big part of relationship romantic relationship. Ain't the the only thing he's speaking through his arrested development. And that's what I'm saying. Like there's plenty of people even I

even know [ __ ] that cheat that have a great healthy sort of friendship with their partner and and sex is somewhere

else. I'm saying like sex ain't always the thing that keeps you in a relationship. You know what I mean? There's lots of things that keep you in

relationship other than sex. Yeah. Like you could actually like the person. Yeah. like you want to be around. These

[ __ ] don't like women. These [ __ ] don't like women. Not these [ __ ] in the room, but these [ __ ] that we talking about, they don't like women.

They just want to sleep with them. But in terms of liking them and seeing value in them, they don't do that. That sounds

like what you're talking about. That is what it sounds like. That's how he sounds. That's how he sounds. I mean, I

I just don't think I mean my my wife I just speak.

No. What the [ __ ] I What? Okay, one more side. I agree. Watch your step,

buddy, too. You're encroaching on my territory.

Whoa. Wait, hold on. Don't even try it. Keep going. No, no, no, no. Keep going.

To be to be clear, [ __ ] We were talking about the hour three yet, boy. No, no, not male. Mel, we're talking

about the the discourse of feminism. I just want you to clean it up, my [ __ ] Thank you, Going to get back to that [ __ ] [ __ ] Yeah, we have to

have it, boy. I was telling Joe was playfully in using the language of feminism and I was saying that's my No, no, we know. But now that you said that,

now that you said that, we got to make it clear. I'm trying to hold you down. Look out. That was not holding down.

That was holding you down in the right under the water. Right. No, but so I I I

disagree with that point. Um there is an interesting thing he said that I think we have to be sort of critical of or

honest about. Marriage historically has been about money and it marriage was really a contract. It was about

ownership. It was a business arrangement, right? And men were giving their daughters to other men and that's why we gave dowies and land and all

this. I mean, it was a business arrangement. Um, so I don't want to pretend that that history doesn't exist, but I think there's lots of reasons to

get married other than security or safety or money. I'm not saying people don't there's good reasons to get married, having somebody with you, you

know, having a better financial situation, you're you're stronger financially if the two of y'all making an income. All that is true, but there's

really good reasons to be married. And I didn't know this until I was even being with my wife before we were married, living with her before we were married.

I still find greater value in the marriage. You know what I mean? Like I actually enjoy being married. And if your wife if your partner is your best

friend, if it's somebody you really [ __ ] with married and that [ __ ] is a whole other level of joy when you get to be home with that don't mean they don't get

on your nerves. Don't mean all the other [ __ ] is true, but like I wouldn't trade it for anything. And I think a lot of

married men I know wouldn't trade it for I won't say most, but a lot of married men I know wouldn't trade it for anything. That's all I would say. Agreed. I think that uh I think that

we've kind of discussed all the reasons why marriage is good, but I also do think that there are people that maybe shouldn't get married. And maybe he's

one of those people. Like if you still want to run around and do [ __ ] you probably shouldn't be married. But I think that when I meet people that make

a lot of money, have been with someone for a really long time and aren't married for some principal reason. I

think that that's a little foolish because of the tax benefits, because of the security blanket of being married.

There's a bunch of reasons to be married if you make a lot of money, especially if you are committed single or committed

to a single person. That being said, if you want to run around and [ __ ] a bunch of people, you probably shouldn't be married. Well, my my thing just about

unless you unless you have that arrangement. But wait, what I was saying to his point, he's saying, you know, you

get you break up, you take half of everything. You can protect yourself against that. That's true, too. Yeah. Like, you act like it's this or that.

You could always structure your marriage however you see fit. Mhm. Get a prenup, whatever you need written in there, and

now you're protected. So those things you're sitting here complaining about won't happen to you. Oh yeah. Get that little cheating clause out of there.

Infidelity clause. Crazy. Are you crazy girl? Let me get

this straight. Try sneak it in there. I [ __ ] one little insy wincy girl. You get

to take it off. But I don't think only I'm joking right now, by the way, cuz my girl be listening. I'm joking. Married

people shouldn't be on people weighing in on this. Paul Pierce not even married. I mean like what do you right Joe is what do y'all think about this? I

couldn't agree more with with you. Like I it's Paul Pierce talking. I'm not

paying them no mind. But uh I can't wait to be married. I cannot wait to get married just for the structure of it. My

girl just helps me to be palatable. She helps in my decision making. We find we

find the same [ __ ] funny. We enjoy the same music. We enjoy the same shows. Her

skin is soft. If that changes, we'll re-evaluate it. But like I I love Yeah.

I love I I love all that [ __ ] I'm with that [ __ ] I have a friend um who, you know, was she met her husband and he was

a playboy, but the sun rose and set on the crack of her ass, according to him,

and they ended up getting married. He was a playboy. He was out in the streets and he was g he he was doing very well

for himself, you know, very well. since they've been married, the structure and

discipline and just everything involved in and and and her support and love, he recently just sold his company for like

almost a hundred million [ __ ] dollars. I don't necessarily know. I can't I'm not a fortune teller. But with

the way that he conducted himself and just had girlfriend after girlfriend after girlfriend after girlfriend and then what he ended up with having a

structured relationship with somebody who loved and cherished him and he felt the same way back and she raising their

kids and stuff like that. I don't see him getting to that point without her, you know. And that's just saying like

just when it's when it is a good marriage and it is a good partnership with people who like and love each other

that that is that's the kind of thing that it affords you to become like the man that you can become. I want to also

add by the way evolution in the last however let's call it two years we have

seen some amazing prominent rich powerful wealthy single men get

absolutely destroyed by running around the streets doing whatever the [ __ ] they wanted. Good point. Absolutely. Yeah. I

agree with that. Is there anyone here that has an opposing opinion on this

on what? On what he said on on this on the on the mayor's topic. I think I

think I don't oppose what anybody's saying. I think Paul Pierce is just speaking from a skewed perspective based

on his career and his experiences though. So I don't necessarily think that if he was an accountant he would

feel that way. You know what the problem is? He didn't get with them Kate Verdians. He was over there. That [ __ ]

was in Boston a long time. That [ __ ] he got with them. He might be the prime

minister. [ __ ] you talking about. That [ __ ] was in Boston forever. He did some some other [ __ ] in Boston. He might have

been around. Jo, it didn't If you was in Boston, that don't mean you was with the Kings. They came across. You had a

choice. No, they came across and that might not be his bag. Some of his views. Listen, when that [ __ ] was on ESPN or

wherever he was playing poker, I was in Boston for two days and I

found in my prime, I found a few [ __ ] What? Yeah. Y'all y'all y'all don't know

if that's what make us te. They killing one of these athlete dudes

now cuz they caught him in Vegas on the on the on the party bus and they let like 20 white girls out. Two of them. It

was uh Cam from from the Saints. Cam Jordan and

uh Tyler. It was Cam and somebody else. It don't matter. We just in a funny place where

you can't even let the white girls out the party party bus. Trey Murphy. Troy Murphy. Trey. Trey Murphy. I mean Trey.

Troy. He nice too. Troy Murphy was nice. Trey Murphy nice too. He wasn't better than Tury. Yes, he is. He wasn't betting

Trey Murphy. I'm telling you. Trey Murphy is a big white boy. I know he is. [ __ ] to know. Trey Murphy is real nice. Trey Murphy is real nice. But um I just

think that his his view is just skewed based on his experiences. Like when them [ __ ] been rich at a young age, they

might think every girl in the world want their money and then they looking at girls as sexual conquest or sexual toys.

And so now you place BL placing everything on a sexual relationship. And

if you look at women like in in that light, I don't expect you to understand none of this marriage [ __ ] or want to be

married. Exactly. because you can get that from anywhere, anytime, any place without having to

And the other side he said his moms was never married. So I didn't even see it in my household. That was also his mom didn't get married till she was 70. So I

never saw it coming up. It's huge and now I'm out here on my own. I'm rich like you said. Like that's the part that I thought was sick. Yeah. No, that's not

true. That's the part that I thought was sick. That's huge in in in in our demo especially that's really really big.

Single motherhood is really really big. And so we don't necessarily see the importance of marriages because we've

never been around a marriage or just a fruitful man and woman relationship. I was about to say not even marriage. Not

all of us. Well, that's why I'm saying it's sick. You don't know why? Because had he had a conversation with his mom

and asked him and asked her, you know, what would you have preferred? Struggling as a single mom raising us on

our [ __ ] own or would you have preferred to be in a loving marriage with a supportive partner who could

raise us together? I think she would have gone with the ladder. But that has nothing to do with what he saw as a boy

growing up. I I understand that. I've never had that conversation with my mother. Me neither. He's single uh

parent kid. He's never had that conversation with my mother. What I'm saying is it would behoove him to have had that as 45 and 50 and 55. We talking

about like adult adult real adult people. Now I I think that you're too old for the hey, this is what I saw

growing up, so these are my views. At some point you have to come up with your own [ __ ] views. True. I'm not

disagreeing with you. However, what I'm saying so to say, but wait, let me finish. So to say that you pleased with

your mom being alone or not finding the one that she deemed appropriate for

marriage until 70 years old is sick. If you spoke to your mom, he's saying, but

what he's saying is she didn't get married to 70, which is why he's saying it's for old people. She got married to have somebody by her side to ride it out

is what he was saying. So that's what he was saying. He's like, "Oh, so for me, marriage just means he may

not comprehension is great." Do you think I'm I'm under the guise of his

mother I'm with Mel. His mother may have wanted some company before she was 70 years old. I think

companionship and and if you recognize that, then your mom not being married till 70 shouldn't reinforce your

thinking of marriage is only for old people. It should say the opposite. That's what you're saying. It should say

the exact opposite. And if your mom met a [ __ ] that she felt appropriate for

marriage and he was in the house a little more or around you a little more, no telling how that would affect your

thinking today. That's what I just think at 505. That's exactly what we're saying. We're saying that if he grew up

with a man and a woman in a household and his mother had a man, it would have affected his outlook on relationships

and how he sees the world. Let me finish. What we're sizing Let me finish is is different. So what? No, we're

really not. Cuz if he had been a he had a man in his household, his whole outlook and his whole view on

relationships could potentially be different. He looks at it that way based on an environment he grew up in, an

environment he was introduced to at 17, 18 years old, which is being an all-American athlete and all of the

things that come along with that. Y'all are repeating everything I said. If you I said it first. Then how do you get to

yes, marriage is only for old people? It's I'm sorry. Let me just say this and then you and then you clear it up. It

it's almost like he said he stated it to say she waited until she was 70 with intention to wait rather than that was a

desire that he never knew she had maybe the majority of her life and it never happened for her. And I mean my views on

this I've had this talk with my mom. I've spoken to my mom about marriage,

the lack of marriage, when you was married, how you felt about it, getting older without somebody, wanting somebody

to be there. I've had these talks. I don't think that nobody is signing their mom up to [ __ ] live life a certain

way and then at 70 at your later years, meet somebody and then yada yada yada and and we going to paint that as the

[ __ ] Party City. That ain't Party City. If you witness that, then why the [ __ ] would you get on a platform talking like it's Party City? I just don't

understand that part. If y'all do, that's great. I disagree with the [ __ ] So I I think

I disagree with him, too. But I I understand why he may think like that. Can I ask you something? Why have Why

Why haven't or why wouldn't you have that conversation with your mom?

I have not. Do you got the kind of moms have that conversation? My mom don't talk about stuff. Yeah. Me and my mom talk about a lot of [ __ ] but I don't

need If you're able to. I'm not. No, no, I'm saying some parents, some women don't like to talk about their I mean in the sense of like my mom don't talk

about bad experiences. She don't talk about I just seen it. I don't even need the conversation. This is a rumor. Yeah. Personally, I don't need it. I saw it. I

was there. I saw I saw my mom's being with the wrong person. And this is what she will

say to this day. Like my mom's not married now. And she my mother was married for 20 years to the wrong person

and eventually got divorced. And she's like, "Now I value my peace over anything else. I would much rather be

alone than go through what I went through before with the wrong person." So I get that. But I watch the struggle

going. I think there So it's like I I I see I don't have to tell Even that right there, even that right there, there's a

value in that. So let's just say Ice hypothetically watched his mother be married to the wrong man for 20, 30

years. Ice could be dead set against marriage based on just viewing that everything in all of our environment

shape how we see the world. That is true. That's a possibility for him. But what but to Joe's point but but to Joe's

point when you are an adult adult adult 40 45 50 you now have the responsibility

to challenge those long-held beliefs and maybe go to therapy to kind of like fix the way you're thinking. And the reason

why I said something about him having a conversation with his mom is because I know something about this. I to it took

me a long time to see my mom outside of just being my mother, you know, just like unconditionally love me. I'm your

child. And that's how I saw the relationship. I never bothered to ask the woman any questions about who she

was outside of me until it was almost too late. And that's something that I always encourage people to do. And it

would behoove him to have that conversation with his mom because it might change his skewed view right now.

Like that's the the point that I'm making. Unless unless unless his mom was

Paul Pierce's mom was just happy all those 30 40 years. You know what I mean? She could have been Mr. Earl could have

been coming down laying pipe and can you put your Yeah. Yeah. Like she could she could have had

a great life experience and just decide but part of that is because he's rich. Mhm. Yeah. Wham. Like like she and

frankly she don't need a 70-y old man marriage right now 70 to be taken care of. You know, you might need it now. You

might need it now. You might need it now because the money doesn't play as big of a part in your life when you start to

get older. But when you 50 60 running around, my son got 100 $200 million. I might not need the things that or the

securities that a marriage brings. That's and yeah, his whole to that point his whole his whole understanding is

skewed by a whole bunch of stuff that's not replicable. Like nobody very few people going to have his life and his

opportunity and his access and so I hope a bunch of men don't follow this man. Pierce might just be unmarable. That's

possible. Yeah, could be that. Like the same way we talk about women that are of a certain age that may have missed the

boat cuz it was too many options or they was playing around and why it won't apply for men. This [ __ ] might have

been unmarable for the peak uh the prime years of him where some of the women he

wanted didn't want him cuz he was on [ __ ] [ __ ] Some of that [ __ ] [ __ ] you can still hear in his verbage. And and and the good women are out of here. So

now you just left with like Mel said the [ __ ] what what did you call it earlier? the feast to the the whatever

you call it. Some nasty [ __ ] out there in the in the single street. The dumpster fire. Yeah, the dumpster fire. And if and if you're there, then yes,

these are your views. But tell us, yo, these are my views because I'm stuck out here in the dumpster fire and I didn't

find nobody that saw the value in me and I refused to do the work so somebody would find the value in me. Say that. That could be true.

Very much so. Word. I mean, it's it's it's understood that there is going to be a certain way. There's a certainty.

I'm not disagreeing with you. I just I'm not disagreeing with any of that. I I I believe all of that to be true. And

again, I'm I'm just basing it on the environment that this guy grew up in. [ __ ] I'm rich. I'm living in Boston.

I'm the man in Boston. It's mad single bad chicks in Boston. I don't want to settle down with none of them cuz I'm

selfish and I'm running around. Rich [ __ ] got to stop doing that. That [ __ ] is uh uh uh uh

lonely, dark, sad. And guess when you realize that depressing could go

dangerous risky road most nights. Most

nights. I'm not talking about the night that you went to the club and Vanessa Del Rio was in there with a free cousin

and they both sucked your dick all night long. I'm not talking about the night that you went out and had the time the

the the tiniest of times. No, I'm just saying. When I think about my single days, four nights a week, five nights a

week, you in the house by yourself. And when you come home from the club, the club be cool. And when you come home from the club until that next,

especially if you got some money, [ __ ] that next day you just sitting in the house doing nothing cuz you self-employed until 9:00 at night. You

know when 9:00 at night come, [ __ ] start hitting your phone. Yo, what you doing? Yo, such and such pop on Wednesday. D. And you repeat the cycle.

[ __ ] we used to be in greenhouse four and five nights a week. You just be repeating the cycle. I'm not saying that. I'm telling you that the

environment and in in in repeating of the cycle because it gets deep at some point you [ __ ] with money go home and

you have everything you want there and that high is gone now. True. There is nothing that you could go out and buy

that you didn't buy that you didn't purchase. So now that euphoric feeling got to come from doing something nice

for somebody else. That was what Will Smith said a couple months ago when he was like, "Yo, I I bought everything I

could buy." True. So now he smoked that interview and I agree with everything that he said. He's like, "So now you have to find out how to be happy

internally." True. Yeah. And a lot of [ __ ] don't even want to look inside. They can't look in the mirror, let alone look inside. You know how many times in

my single days when I had a couple dollars to spare, you just wanted to buy a fly pair of boots for a lady, but

there was no lady because you single thinking about, yo, you you you looking you see a banging ass location come

across your thing. You know, I'm a travel dude. So you single, you see this dope ass location and you like, damn, I

wonder who I could go there with. I wonder somebody I could take there with. Not no jump off [ __ ] that I'm just

[ __ ] somebody that I like and I want to spend time. My [ __ ] when you go on vacations, I don't know about everybody

else. When you go on vacations, it separates who you like from who you like. You in that room for 6 days, 7

days, 4 days, whatever the [ __ ] duration of time is. You sitting in that room. It ain't no she got to go home.

Mhm. You don't have no time off from this girl. If you ain't going to work tomorrow, y'all in this room for 4 days

by yourself 24/7, y'all. And if you don't like this [ __ ] and you just looking at her like a piece of ass, that

[ __ ] is whack. That [ __ ] going to wear off quick. Ain't no sunset. You don't care about no sun setting with Kesha. Ty

back, get her dusty. You know what I'm saying? You done nuted as much as you could nut.

Yeah. And at some point, pardon me, at some point your your brain and your eyes could [ __ ] more than you can, too. True

indeed. Thousand%. True. Thousand%. But good luck to Paul Pierce. Whatever

works. Listen, I'm I'm in my to each its own era in life. I'm trying my best not to judge most of y'all out there.

Whatever y'all want to do, totally fine with me. Everybody got to do what's best for them with their brief time on earth.

Whatever that is that makes you happy. Judging is fun. I love the judge. I like a good silence. You know, that's what

their thing a wife is good for. You get all your judge [ __ ] on what? You know who I'm judging right now? Please. Lars.

No, no. I'm sorry. I'm not judging Larsa Pippen. I'm judging him. Are you late? You late on this? Jeff Kobe? Yes. I'm

I'm judging him. Why? You're judging who? The dude is marrying Larsa Pippen. Who? Jeff Kobe. Jeff Kobe. He's a That's

her new boyfriend. Shocked to know. Former basketball player. No. Who announced that they're they're getting

married in November. Okay, tell me more. Why you Why you feel bad for Jeff Kobe? He found the person he loved.

Ah, I have so when I could be wrong when people demonstrate a certain pattern Oh

yeah, you're wrong. I go I might be I might be I'm open to this. I I want you to tell me how I am. Larsa Pippen seems

like somebody who's there for the moment. She seems like an opportunist and she seems like she's obsessed with young basketball players. I don't see

this lasting and I feel like for and I don't get what draws a 30 was he 30?

He's 31. 31 a 31 year old man again and she's 50. Do what you want. If you want to marry a 50-y old woman, that's fine.

It's not it's not her age. It's the fact that she's got a pattern and a type and she seems like an opportunist to me. And

I could be wrong. Do you think opportunists don't get married? Um, yeah, they do. They do. I'm just saying

I'm I'm I'm judging them cuz I'm like, "Bro, you don't see this. You don't see the play." You know, I watch her get

married. I watch her do the reality shows. Like she it's like she's making money off the marriages, off the relationships. And what makes you think

that he doesn't see the play? I was That's what I was gonna say. You might play. School me. That's what I'm saying. Some [ __ ] see the play and just be all

right with the [ __ ] Some [ __ ] know the play, see the play, and [ __ ] it. All right. I'm here for the ride, too. Yeah.

Okay. That's a good That's a good point. If If he know that and sign up for that, then yeah, you're not a victim. You're a

volunteer at that point. That's That's a great point. I I always I assume everybody's being earnest, so I always How do you How do you How do you feel

about Britney Rener and Kevin Gates marriage or alleged marriage? I haven't thought about it. I'm fascinated by it.

Think about it. I'm fascinated by it. Um I want to see if if there are parallels for you. I think the difference and

again I could be wrong. She's been on the internet. There's a pattern of behavior. But she seems to have interrupted her pattern and made like a

very a very like stark like look, I'm changing my life. I'm going to be somebody else. Lamont Hill. Again, I

could be wrong. I'm just saying I'm a sucker. I'm I'm I'm starting by saying I believe people be earnest and and and and she may. I'm not saying I'm not

calling your name saying that that's not true. I'm saying that most times when these women get married, they've shown

that to the person that they're marrying. Not to say that it's true or not. Like whatever Britney showed Kevin Gates as far as I'm turning my life

around, I'm willing to adopt this new yada yada yada yada. I don't know what Larson P is kicking in this in this

guy's ear, she might be saying, I'mma turn my life over to God now. And and I'm not saying this about Britney Rener

because I don't know this to be true about her, but sometimes also women look at that clock like she's again I'm not

saying she's older or anything, but they start to realize, yo, it's all like what I was doing being the it girl. Yeah.

That time might have passed me a little bit. It's a whole new crop out there that's that's running around it. So it's

it's almost settled down time. Let me find something that a little bit more stable now. can't run the life that I

used to or I get to that point like Joe was just talking about where I am quote unquote an unmarriable because I

bullshitted all this time but now don't nobody want to take me serious. You've convinced me. Yeah. You convinced me to

give to to not be so skeptical. That's fair. Yeah. And there there's plenty of women that there there's

plenty of women that find their identity in whatever their role is in their

partner's life. M also so right like who am I to say that Britney is on [ __ ]

She met somebody this is his uh belief system and his religion and yada yada

yada. She's rocking with that [ __ ] can't come and say listen for weeks now I've been wanting to come and talk about

uh all the I can't talk about it but the new women that are turning faith and

covering up and just it's a lot it's a lot of being converted. Oh, I didn't I didn't know that. Oh, it's a it's a

wave. It's a wave happening currently. What do you think the wave is? And but who am I to Islam? Yes. Dope. Women that

live that life. Who am I to come say there's nothing I can say? I think

that's at some point you look at yourself in the mirror every day, Mark, and you and you want to change. You want

to change it. Whether it's converting or just following God, you want to change

your life. Some of them just look at it like, "Yo, what I've been doing ain't working. It ain't like if you keep doing the same thing over and over and get the

same results." She like, "Yo, no, it it's not it's not working for the long term for what they want." No, it may not work internally, but it may work. I

mean, instant gratification is a thing. Yeah. Until it stops. Until until you get 77 pocketbooks, until you have every

car that you could drive, until you've been to every restaurant, until you have all of these material items, and none of

that [ __ ] when you go home at night and lay down on that pillow makes you happy. You still feel empty inside. So now I

got to look for something different. And I agree with you on that because there's a lot of people. Guess who make you feel better? The post office [ __ ] that you

[ __ ] on for the last 30 years. I agree with you. There's some people that that I know personally. But Larson

got hurt a baller that that he ain't that. Go look at his career. He he her

net worth might be higher than his. Probably is. I mean especially with Yeah. Is he a current player? Former

former played overseas and [ __ ] like that. Yeah. No. Yeah. No. I mean he he ain't no Scotty Pippen or or Michael

Jordan once removed. But I I I I think for me, part of it might just be my reality show meter. You know what I

mean? When when I'm around her, I just read her I read everything as a setup for something else. But what they were saying when you walked out was like

there's also the possibility he's in on that he's not a sucker. He's that he's going with the play too. Like maybe he knows exactly what he's walking into and

he's okay with it. And if that's the case, go for it. Chill. Chill. Miz. You

can't do that. You can't do that to Larson Miz. But I Larson rubbed me the wrong way, man. Well, yeah. Me, too.

That's all. But as a man rubbing them as as a man probably is every every day on

the internet as a man you have to find the restraint to not do that right.

Yeah. Like do what? Too many of us know too many women. What's that though for you? What Mark just did with with Larsa?

Like I'm saying on the internet you're going to see you're going to see the lady that you knew for the last

25 10 years and you know her Carfax. Mhm. Just based off how she been moving

out there. And then one day she going to bump into a [ __ ] and they going to profess they love and be married. You

have to fight the urge to say damn [ __ ] like you marrying that this [ __ ] done

been in the street done [ __ ] him. You can't like we can't. You know why [ __ ] You know why [ __ ] don't though?

Because and then you we learn don't care either. Well not just that but but we've seen what happens when that goes it

separate ways and she's right back to what she was doing things. It's almost evaluated. Yeah. You still you still

that? Yeah. You can't do that. It's like you just put on pause for a minute. Like if you see a slide fell in love or

getting married or Yeah. You got to just kind of wish him the best. Yeah. Maybe

she can't can't rain on anybody's parade. If she married a dude from the post office to use Ish's example, like I would probably be more inclined to be

like, "Okay, she's she's settling." I mean, she might have a physical type, though. That's true. Her physical type could be tall, athletic. I think [ __ ]

always find empathy when she's dating a [ __ ] from the post office. because it seems more genuine. But to who? To the masses. The

people that are judging. And the message for anybody out there is not to live your life based on what the

masses think about it. True. That's fair. Yeah. Yeah. Especially when it

come to your love, who fills who fills you up, who make you feel good, who's

sucking your dick, who's rubbing you down, massaging the C CBD oil, all that good [ __ ] Yeah. Mind your business. I

don't give a [ __ ] what you think. Hey, like I used to say to [ __ ] back in the day long long long long long time ago. Hey, hey, [ __ ] if you had a and you

see me with it, [ __ ] you should be a PL. Hey, you know what I'm going to do? I'm having a slice. And if you still

watching, I assume that you had a slice, too. I missed that slice. If you still

watching, you missed that slice. That's a If you're still watching, you missed that slice. So, don't come tell me, "Oh,

yo, she used to be in the Yo, she used to be behind the dumpster with Rah." Guess what? I cleaned all that up. Hey,

I hosed it down. I put that thing right in the dog bath. Purel. Come on now. Lights on. Got

the dog on. Got the dog. Hey, I sent that thing to the hair salon, the nail

salon, the refurbished [ __ ] salon, and every other salon I could find. Cat daddy, that is a rescue dog now. Look,

whatever you had, it should be a little different. Yeah. Different hairstyle. Know that dog. Different for breed. Them

rescue dogs be loyal too. Come on now. They hated where they was at. They hated

that last home. Come on now. That's nasty. I don't care. That's

nasty. I don't care, [ __ ] I say rescue dog, [ __ ] But yeah. Well, you know what I'm saying. Not a rescue dog. Clean them up. Clean up. I'm just trying.

Rescue [ __ ] Yeah, we know. We know. Rescue. I usually meet [ __ ] like you and you clean them up and then I cleans

them up, [ __ ] Yeah. Do they end up going back to the other [ __ ] Oh, I don't know. I don't keep tabs when I'm done.

Oh, you don't care about that? I don't care what you do when I'm done. Done is done. And you ask me about a life I

don't even remember, man. I've been my girl six years. I'm only looking forward. I'm only looking forward. I don't even

remember these times that we speak about. These are the times we all wish for. I don't remember. I'm sorry. That's

what I respect about you. Holy man. That's what I respect about this room.

No, for real. Everybody, I don't know if I could do this pod with a bunch of single [ __ ] Oh, come on, man. We not

doing this. clear. Yeah, I know. Go play. God damn it.

All right, moving on. So, which of our New York residents is is going to uh uh tell us about this New York airport

[ __ ] I was just looking. It's freeze. I mean, it's I mean, we we talked about it a little bit, but this [ __ ] is bad. No,

it's expanded since we were talking about it before. It was just like, oh, it's just [ __ ] up there. New York Times

article on it. Just went public. That's all. No, no, it just went public. When we spoke about it, there was

construction and that was it. I I believe that I I said it wasn't. I said that that wasn't construction. I said

that from the rip. It wasn't construction cuz easily remedied. All right. Be clear. There is construction.

True. Okay. But that ain't the reason for this [ __ ] That's my back. That might be what they telling y'all is the reason for this [ __ ] Uh my [ __ ] if

you own one of the biggest or most important, not biggest, but one of the most important airports in the country, international airports at that in the

country or maybe in the nation to ISIS point, my [ __ ] if construction is your issue, you have on the clock [ __ ]

working around the construction issue to remedy it, right? Yeah. LAX has been under construction for God knows how

long and it has not stopped. You know, their fam, I was flying out. They told us, "Yo, it's only one lane open. You

y'all are number 39. it. My plane was leaving at 6, [ __ ] I left at almost nine o'clock.

That's not construction. That's not construction. That's short staff. Yo, y'all. And so a lot of the staffing issues they are saying because they said

that the FAA that regulates NORC is out of Philly. Didn't they just fire a whole

bunch of uh Didn't There you go. Trump cut everything. There you go. Trump. Yeah. Your cousin. So that's be clear.

So So they said it's a combination of things. I think nobody really has the balls to blame it on him. Yeah. That's

what I really think. I think nobody has the balls to blame it on their administration for fear of losing their job or getting found out. And so now

they blaming it on a multitude of things, construction, layoffs, etc., etc. If it's only one lane open in the

airport, that's scary. Bro, I left I left on one day. They hit us with the one one lane situation. Back planes up.

They're talking about one excuse me, not one lane, one runway. Yeah. runway to accommodate to accommodate all

flights incoming and outgoing one runway. Oh, I didn't know that. For an international for for international

airport. I didn't know that. That's already crazy. That's insane. But what was interesting to me is on the return,

they told us we were delayed because of an issue at NORC, but they never said it was because of construction. They said

it's windy. It's windy. It's wind conditions. So, so if it's if it's it seems like you're giving a bunch of

different reasons [ __ ] to just say something or anything that is applicable at the time. So 2 weeks ago, 3 weeks

ago, I went to Virginia. That Monday I was coming home. Mhm. They said it was

the rain. Right. So they postponed my flight. I flew out Tuesday morning. I came straight to the power. Remember?

Boom. This Sunday when I was leaving, they said it was the wind to ISIS Point. They said it was windy in New Jersey.

Okay. Right. I'm like, "Yo, my [ __ ] it's been windy since we was kids."

What the [ __ ] are we talking about? So, is it the the the elements? Is it construction? My flight was leaving um

Sunday. This Sunday, it was supposed to be at 6:20. The second I returned the car, got to the gate, they said 9:40.

While I'm sitting there negotiating, they said, cuz I was trying to find another airline, they said 11:05. Yeah.

I took my dumb ass downstairs, got me another rental car, and drove home all the way home. That flight did leave at

11:05 and it got to something after 11:00. It got here at like 1:00 which

means the runways cleared up. It didn't get less windy. The runways cleared up which allowed for more traffic to come

through and that's really what happened. And not only that, they're also diverting flights to other air like some

people who are supposed now. Yeah. But some Exactly. I encourage anybody listening if you can avoid uh EWR Newark

airport till the end of June. Mid June is when they they said Cory they said

July with our broadcast. Uhhuh. They said July. Yeah. They was saying July. The middle of July. Man, if you get a V jersey or whatever and just do it

[ __ ] [ __ ] the trains don't work. You get shanked in the [ __ ] train station, man. You be the train. You know

the [ __ ] the air. [ __ ] She said Penn Station. No, you

said you go all the time. This [ __ ] act like Philly is [ __ ] Guns and Rainbow. He act like he didn't just move right to

New Jersey. Like enough enough. No, he might have did that for love. Philly

ain't [ __ ] sunshine and rainbows. [ __ ] this is much better in this hell.

If you can avoid EWR until 80,000 houses, end of

June, pardon me, early July. I recommend you do. So, uh, I'm supposed

to be flying out to Boston soon and I'mma do JFK or LaGuardia. I might is nice now. They cleaned up. They hosed

her down. Look, you can even shop in that [ __ ] house now. But LaGuardia and JFK are really nice. JFK

always been good for me. I just don't like the distance for JFK. I don't like either one of them [ __ ] JFK JFK before they redid it. I

remember they just redid it first and then the Guardia took ages for them to redo and

then they did redo some of Newark. It's a shame the Newark is going to say better than New is amazing. Is gorgeous.

Well, neither one of them [ __ ] airports better than New York. That's not true. You got hours to shop cuz your plane ain't never going to leave. So you

get a whole meal and [ __ ] I got JFK is a much better airport than New York. It's a much better airport than New York. They got better shops by far. By

far. Everything about JFK is better than Newport. that [ __ ] one time. I don't know. I just don't go. I'm not going

there. I like I said, I'll go to New You know what Newick is? The United Hub. You can't even catch You can't even catch

some of the flys from Newark. Exactly. Jersey like I'm not doing this to United

is the hub. Atlanta got like Delta, you know what I mean? Philly got America. Y'all got United. Come on.

There's a government thing. Don't put that on us. No, I'm a problem with that. Yeah, I don't understand the problem. I like I like a lot of the fly city

locations. You got connect and [ __ ] man. It's fine. It's a fine airport. Just I just find living in Jersey. Y'all like the armpit of the east coast. If

you had to pick up If you had to pick up United, well, he might be trolling. I'm dead. No, I'm dead ass. I would take Delta if I had to pick. You would

definitely take Delta. You would probably take a couple more before you said United as your preferred hub. Why?

Oh, yeah. But then again, I'm I'm United on your level. I'm United all day. I

like United, too. That's on brand for you. Shocked about him. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever that means. H. No, you talking

about me. No, you said me. No, you talking you said fan. What you got? Aisha in YouTube. So, both of you know,

I don't know what that means. Um, speaking of [ __ ] that uh Trump's [ __ ] up for the country, does anybody have any thoughts or insight on this uh movie

tariff, foreign movie tariff? [ __ ] Why Donald Trump?

He's going to put 100% tariff on all foreign movies because Hollywood is struggling.

That's what he said. And we supposed to be making our own movies and we watching other people's movies and they bringing their movies into the country. And look

at this [ __ ] is like what? But help me help me understand. Do we watch that many of other people's I I'm not a movie. No, it's not that. He's talking

about filming. He's talking about filming outside of the country. Oh, that's true. I see what you mean. Like like Sent was filmed in Canada, right?

Or Australia, excuse me. Um same. Yeah. Yeah. Australia. It might as well be. I

know. Yeah. I don't know. because at the end of the credit I remember looking and being like, "Oh [ __ ] that [ __ ] wasn't the," you know, because it's cheaper.

It's easier. Yeah. Um I guess I mean got a point. I just don't know if that's the right solution. I tend to just my

default is to say that ain't the right answer, but I don't know. It's not the right solution. It's just all you going to do is make movie ticket prices go up.

There's also just like certain like [ __ ] that you can't find in America. I mean, America's vast and has a bunch of

different shoot Game of Thrones and Watts, right? Talk about my [ __ ] What the [ __ ] Any Mission Impossible. Any

Mission Impossible all over the world. um all of the bonds.

Yo dog, this [ __ ] just goes back to the whole factories and all that other [ __ ] No, he's No, what he's trying to do is

he's trying to punish Hollywood because it's primarily liberal and he has always been ex, you know, excluded from from

the cool kids table. LA and New York. Don't [ __ ] with him. Yeah. Yeah. So

that's that's it. That's it. He's just trying to punish the people that just don't [ __ ] with him and have never, you know, invited him into the fold. I think

he's just waking up in the morning seeing some [ __ ] be like I think he trying to make I think he just keep trying to make distractions to go

against from the real [ __ ] he's lacking which is which is real policy crumbling we going to make a diversion we going to

throw something up in the air make it blow up it's going to distract the people and we not really doing the work that needs to be done beneath the scenes

well did you since we since we back to the escape oh right never mind no go

ahead I'm talking no I was just saying he also announced and I want to know your thoughts on this he's talking about getting rid of section

8 and saying that they're going to put a cap for able-bodied adults to 2 years.

Okay. Seriously? Yeah. You're going to get rid of section 8. At the same time, half of the country, not half of the

country, but a a large portion of the country are losing their employment. Yeah. How's that work? And we and we at

record house prices. How's that work for the economy that you're going to rescue? Well, he doesn't give a [ __ ] I think it

goes right back to what you said. He's just he's just sending signals to his base to distract just talk. But this is

this is the real killer. Paid from anybody. No. Yo, but but this a real killer. A huge part of Donald Trump's

base is sections. Yeah. We keep looking at it like, yo, it's just a liberal outside states. No.

A lot of Donald Trump's base in the inner America. They poor white people.

Yes. But they're that are on section 8, my [ __ ] So when you drop section 8, what happens to

them now? Billy in the trailer. He [ __ ] up. Yo, dog. What are you talking about?

It's going backfiring, my [ __ ] And they don't got jobs out here. This [ __ ] is crazy.

What am I saying? That's wrong. Can't do that. Hey, Flip.

You sound good. You sound good, boy. Yeah. Oh, look. Please. No one here has

a Thunderbolt review. I saw it and I hated it. And they killing all the movie. Yeah, I saw it. Oh, it's not

Thunderbolts. It's the new Avengers. It's the new I know they changed the billboards. That's That's what they

doing. That's part of their marketing. But that's not the name of the movie now. The movie was all It's all part of the marketing. The movie was always

Thunderbolts. If you ever look, it had an asterisk next to it. Spoiler alert, at the end of the movie, they are

announced as the new Avengers and the new title comes up and couple day a day

or so after the movies come out, they're up there ripping off Thunderbolts and now putting the new Avengers up there.

Really? Oh, that's disgusting. And Marvel must have a new owner. Where's Stanley? Rest in peace. Rest in peace.

Where is Stanley when you're near the movie? Thunderbolts are not the new Avengers. I don't care how many people

up. But I'm not going to get I just did not like the the way the trailer portrayed who the uh protagonist was in

the movie. They didn't really show it. So, it was kind of like, "Oh [ __ ] this motherfucker's powerful as hell. He's this. He's this. He's this." Again, I

don't follow the comics. I don't care. I am an MCU viewer. I just follow the movies. It was a new Avengers in the

comic books. No, I'm not saying nothing about that. I'm talking about the movie itself, though. It felt like a let down.

Like once you found out, okay, this is who these [ __ ] is fighting and this is how y'all beat this [ __ ] Are you

serious? So it wasn't well. Oh, wait. So it's the So they're the good guys. You're talking about the It's Suicide

Squad, but but that's what I was going to say. It looks like Suicide Squad, but that's the Suicide Squad was bad. But that's the antagonist.

I I don't want to spoil it, so no. Rather than protagonist, it's the antagonist. The evil. Oh, excuse me. I

said protagonist. Pardon me. Pardon me. Pardon me. Mel knows the words, not me. But yes, the evil. The evil. Mhm. Yeah.

It was I was like, really? I'm cool. It didn't look like um I'm so cool on

Thunderbolts because I know my mom and her friend group absolutely love our TV and movie recommendations on this

podcast. Uh, I started uh Your Friends and Neighbors. Oh, with John Ham on

Apple. Apple. Love it. It's on my list to start. Absolutely love it. There's

only five episodes available. This drops episodically. Uh, I want to say on Fridays.

What a great show. Uh, what's it called? I don't want to spoil it. Your friends and neighbors. Your friends and

neighbors. What is it about? I'm a man that go broke in. Yeah. Super super rich. Uh, yeah. Yeah. I want to see

Yeah. He starts robbing like his his neighbors. Someone big is in there, right? John Ham. John Ham. Mhm. I heard

this. I love him. Me, too. I absolutely love him. But it's a great show. If you haven't seen it, please check it out on

Apple TV. This is not ad. It's just a really good show. Uh, you were saying Mark, I was going a whole different

direction. I was We didn't talk about Diddy. This is the Diddy trial opened up

this week. Well, just just jury selection right now. No, but it what I thought was interesting about the jury selection was how they're deciding how

they're getting rid of people. Did you did you see this? So they they interviewed 150 people. Uh they gave

them all a questionnaire and it's the normal VAR process. You know, they're trying to get through, you know, to see if you can uh if you can be impartial,

to see if you've had bad experiences, whether you've been experienced sexual assault, uh etc. But then they gave them

a list of celebrities that they had to know or not know. And the list was

interesting. They asked them if they knew Michael B. Jordan. They asked him if they knew who Kanye West was. They

asked him if they knew who Mike Myers was. They asked him if they knew who Kid

Cuy was. Uh I thought the list was interesting. One, it's a window into

maybe whose name is going to come up in trial. Yeah. Yeah. The Mike Myers thing was kind of a a bit of a red herring for

me. I was like, I don't know that Mike Myers name won't come up at trial. Like we don't know, right? I was just

surprised that I wasn't expecting, you know, Wayne's world, but like well well Puff's [ __ ] network is we don't know

who might pop up in this [ __ ] But I was also thinking like who would be in a jury pool that has never do I

never heard of Kanye West? Yeah. I was I don't know if I want a jury pool that doesn't know who Kanye West or Mike Myers is. I think that's a test though.

It's a tactic. It's a test too because in in the jury selection process, you should be removed from the story. Right.

Right. Because if you watch the story on the news, like during the OJ trial, they told him don't turn the TVs on. Yeah.

Like you're not supposed to have any information already or heard of anything. So if you Kanye West comes

across your algorithm, Yeah. If Kid Cuy comes across your algorithm, then more than likely Shawn Combmes has come

across your algorithm and you might have already be impartial. But I'm just saying like if you've never if you're a

juror and you've lived in America and never heard of Kanye and you've never heard of Mike Myers and you've never heard of all these people, I'm like, are

you a normal person? Like I don't know if a normal person could go at this stage in 2025 and not know any of these

people find 12 people that not know any of them names. That that's what I'm saying. I don't think I don't think it's

possible. I get I get your point to be people being disconnected from the story. But I think this is one of them cases like OJ where we not even going to

pretend you disconnected from the story. We just want to pretend we just want somebody who can be impartial despite knowing the story or or K Cuddy. Like if

you bring King, pardon me, K Cuddy into the to the fold, you know the rumors are surrounding Puff and K Cuddy, right? You

get what I'm saying? So all of those things you you ain't even a rumor cuz Cody said that [ __ ] We didn't say it.

No, I feel that [ __ ] You know what I mean? I ain't indicting a [ __ ] I'm just saying that um you kind of want to

try and attempt like it's no grownup person that really don't know who Shawn Combmes is, but you want to attempt in

in your best efforts to have it be um unbiased. Yeah, I think unbiased is the goal. I I'd be skeptical of somebody if

somebody told me they didn't know who Michael B. Jordan, Kanye West, Mike Myers, was I think they were lying. Was there anybody else on the list other

than those four? Uh, there were a few. Uh, Dawn Dawn from they raised Dawn. Okay. From um Dirty Dirty Money and and

Danny Kane. That's what I'm trying to think of. Who else? I'm trying to see I'm trying to pull up the list now, but those are the big ones. I have a

question for you, Mark, when you finish. Yeah, go ahead, bro. What do you say to someone that the

closer this trial comes, right, that actually starts to get nervous and feel bad for him, right? Do they express that

publicly or do you feel like because they'll be judged, they have to internalize it? What do you say to that?

Like just feel bad and now I'm nervous. Now it's looking like he's about to go forever and my relationship with him was

this regardless of what the people see. Do you feel like you talking about potential draw or just people in general? Just a person like somebody

who's connected to him, a friend of Yeah, he's a talking about like him. Oh, not me. No, not you. But people like

him. Like him. I mean, one of the people like you, [ __ ] What? But but I

wouldn't have no problem saying that. Oh, man. I want him to answer cuz you're not going you you're not going I want him to answer it cuz I don't think

you're going to answer the question honestly. Okay. I think you're going to [ __ ] around. Yeah, cuz I And you

mastered that and I understand why. Like I have to move like that. But I want to know when you express Mark has more

empathy than me. No, I just feel like it's hard to I feel like in the world that we live in today, it is hard to express that. But you would get judged

for expressing, you know, your your concern for a person who might have done bad and like damn, I just hope

everything works out. Like how does a person I think they should be honest about that. I mean, I think even if they

get judged, I mean that's that's the risk of telling the truth, right? I mean, you know, I work with people I do

a lot of work with prisoners. I've been working with prisons for decades. Some of them did the crimes. I just think they got too much time. Some of them I don't believe. Some believe some of them

I believe are innocent. Others I believe like you shouldn't get 30 years for doing X. You know what I mean? And it's

tough to say when someone's been harmed, you know? Yeah, he did it, but he still

shouldn't get life, you know? So, when it comes to Diddy, I think I don't think anybody's defending what they saw on

tape that we know Diddy did. I think the question becomes for people, for some people, the people you're talking about

is one, is he has he done everything that he's accused of? Because once once the floodgates open, you had thousands

of people accused him of everything. He did some of that [ __ ] Some of it I'm confident he didn't do, right? We don't

know. That's what the trial is for. Um and then the second question is, will the punishment fit the crime? You know,

there's rumors that Oh, no. It's not rumors. He confirmed that they rejected the settlement, right? I don't know what the settlement offer was exact. I've

heard 5 years. I've heard other numbers. I don't know what's true. But that puff rejected the puff rejected the

settlement. There's a plea deal on the plea deal. I'm saying I'm sorry. I said settle. I mean plea. I'm sorry. they they rejected the plea deal. So, we know

that there is a number out there that's that's tangible that was offered. Um, for some people, the fact that he

rejected that will take away their sympathy. Like, you had you had an opportunity to get a lower number. Now, if you get roofed, that's on you unless

you think you're innocent, right? So, all these all these things play out. For me, it's going to come down to what's in the trial and what comes out. I'm

confident that Diddy did some of that [ __ ] but I'm not confident at what the details are until I see you answer my question as far as the people. I'm

saying they should speak out and tell the truth despite the regardless. Regardless, I think that's that's always the right answer. And I think we have to

be more honest about that because we're in a culture now where we only defend people who are innocent. True. And part of the criminal legal system and part of

the the the structure of it in my estimation is not just to protect the innocent, but also to make sure that

people who do bad things don't get excessive punishment. That's why we don't have cruel and unusual punishment, you know. So, so we have to think about

all those things and that means sometimes taking a tough position to I got burnt by that last week. Uh I I I I

was working with a brother who was locked up for 22 years for for murder and I worked with him. I mentored him. I

talked to him. He's been home for two years. He kic he he just got arrested last week for murdering somebody else. Mm- I don't feel I don't feel that I was

wrong for Okay, that has to affect your part standing.

You're getting desperate, man. It's okay. No, it's all you defended. What? I

didn't defend him, but I wanted him to come home, but you know, because he he was reformed, rehabilitated. He was he became a journalist in prison, you know,

all these things. Wow. Yes. That's something that these are the things that he's saying. You're talking about the brother. There was a story recently.

Mhm. Okay. Last week. Got it. Yeah. And And so those are the moments. He came home and killed somebody else.

Allegedly. He's accused of it. He's charged with it. Yeah. He's charged with it. He got arrested last week. And I

knew him well. How did you feel when you saw that? I was heartbroken. I was heartbroken for the for the woman he

allegedly killed. I was heartbroken for all the people, all the prisoners who we work with to get rehabilitated and to

get to do the right thing and to get sentenced, you know, because this set everybody back. This sets everybody back. When you fight for bail reform,

when you fight for prison reform, it's hard when you fight for abolition, it's hard to say that cuz they're always going to say, "What about him?" Had he

served his full sentence or did he get some I think he did the whole he did. No, he did. He did. They gave him the

whole thing. Okay. He he ate the whole thing and um and now he's going back. So, but all that to say, so for me, I

understand the challenge of standing with people who are quote unquote guilty. Yes. But that's all part of the process. And with Diddy, we got this

Cassie tape, which he fought to get suppressed. Suppressed because they said it would prejudice the jury. And I'm

seeing mixed reports on that. Like sometimes uh some in some reports, they're saying they will allow that

video evidence. And in my recent reports, I'm seeing they're saying that it's undecided and as of now, they will

not yet. So, I'm uncertain of that. Uh, I'll answer your question anyway, even

though you looking for Mark Anthony. [ __ ] you, [ __ ] No, because I feel bad when I look at his kids. Yeah, because

when we ask you this question, I I seen you I You got to remember what he wasn't here when the [ __ ] was first going on.

I'm going to be mindful what I say. You know, like I seen you battle, in my

opinion, your true feelings and how you have how you want to come off to the

masses. I seen that in real time. And that's no disrespect to you. You just have a job to do. No, don't don't don't paint him wrong. I'm I'm battling the

person that I knew versus the person that people are saying they know. Sorry,

that's what he said. That's what I'm That's what I'm saying. But let me clear cuz it wasn't a battle with what I wanted to say and what I didn't know.

No, because when when it first happened when you've been to the party. Hold on. Wait, wait, wait. When it when it first happened, everybody just didn't have

that view of Puff. But listen, I don't give a [ __ ] what they say about him. Now, the [ __ ] the best hostess.

Host host. Hostess. It's been on the night. Yeah. that that hip hop has ever

seen. So, can we Sometimes you want the truth, but

sometimes we can't tell the truth. You can say the truth anytime you want and if it's too much truth, we'll edit it out. All I'm saying is that I watch people in

real time, you have feelings and once the information came out was battling it

battling with those feelings internally cuz then now like you said earlier like the person that I know and the person

that the public knows it it it's an internal conflict and it's irresponsible for even me for a person to come up here

and say something and it comes insensitive to others who may have suffered. So that's that's that's just a

hard thing to deal with. Me, I I'll just go off on a ledge and I'll deal with the ramifications. But sometimes that's

irresponsible and and I appreciate you guys bringing me bringing it. Hold on now. You don't have to do all that. You

just don't have to do it. But I also feel like and on the flip side of what you're saying or to add on to what you're saying, there's tons of people

out there that believe he'll be back on the street shortly. Yeah. You're right. There's a bunch of people that that

Yeah. I mean there some people that don't feel they have the strongest case against him. Mhm. And you know, per the

reports, they're saying he was in the court eight lawyers deep, eight lawyers strong. The most recent lawyer is

homeboy that hip hop has crowned best lawyer in the universe. Thug's lawyer. Brian Steel. Was it Brian Steel or was

it Drew? It was Brian. Brian. Either way, both of them. Crim Dela Crimp. Right. So if you got if your money is

long as strain smoking is words and you're sitting there with eight of the best attorneys in the universe, you feeling good and you feel

like you know they said he said he was nervous. He said that as he said he had

reading glasses on. He's now playing the game. You know what the game is. I'm going to appear to be

you know not arrogant, not Yeah. No none of that stuff. I think it's also okay to be sorry because he's going to make them

make the prosecution or the feds or whoever this is draw a very distinct line between the

difference in uh being a swinger and being a sex trafficker.

That's what it seems like from from the reports. Me even thinking about that

that does muddy it up a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. now and let muddy it up in what we muddy it up as in it's going to

be your job to have all facts eyes dotted like in the OJ case like in the

OJ case you dropped the ball on how y'all collected evidence what evidence you got how y'all handle things [ __ ]

this up who cares if he did it or not he's putting the ball in their court to make sure everything that you have

collecting the evidence says I am a sex trafficker and sexual abuser versus I'm

on some other some freaky wild [ __ ] and in addition It's a great defense. Yeah. But

in addition to that, apparently the um phrase coercive control has been stricken. It can't be used, which is

huge. See? Yeah. And he tried to use a drug defense, too. That that failed, right? Cuz they were trying to They're

trying to like that defense. That was horrible. Made that go. That was a mess. But but you got to throw it up there. But you got to throw everything out

there, right? Because if you can establish the idea was basically saying that to criminal to get a criminal conviction, you have to criminal

conviction, you have to show that you had a criminal mind. what you call a men's ray, a criminal mind. And his point was I was so high. I don't know

what that I didn't have the intent to Yeah. I didn't have a criminal act. Exactly. It was just fun to me. It's an

affirmative defense. Like I did it, but I did it because it's just like and I thought that everybody was a willing participant, right? So they were like,

"Yeah, [ __ ] that." Then then he played the race card with the man act saying basically that the man act has been used

mainly against black men, you know, like Jack Johnson, all these people. It's been used to basically to to criminalize black men for all kinds of [ __ ] right?

Mhm. Wasn't the most persuasive arguer. The boxer, right? Cuz a white woman and basically I remember. Yeah. So then he's

establishing this third piece, which I think is the best argument, which is, look, I'm a freak ball, right? Like I do freaky [ __ ] I do wild [ __ ] And I do

wild. I'm rich. So if you do freaky wild [ __ ] with drugs and a lot of people, you going to be traveling across the country. We got escorts. We got this. We

got that. This wasn't sex trafficking. This was just regular [ __ ] And because the jury is supposed to invoke

what they call the reasonable man standard, the idea what would a reasonable person do under this situation, it's quite reasonable that a

juror, even if they can't even if they didn't live that life, could relate to it. They assume that rich people do

freaky wild [ __ ] with. So I I think that that actually might make a juror say, "You know what? Puffy's not a criminal.

He's just a freak." Or or we got we got dialogue that says, "Yo, blah blah blah blah blah. can't wait to do XYZ, but you

live in California and I live in Florida. Right. So, when you got on that plane and me and you have a dialogue saying, I'mma eat your ass out like crab

bay. You get on the flight and you come over there and you did it. I heard that. That feels like real dialogue.

You didn't just make that one up. Your phone right now. Do a search. Say

do a search. Type crab in that [ __ ] phone. What the [ __ ] is Come on, man. You freak. I don't even eat crab. Y

[ __ ] stupid. Whatever the dialogue, whatever the dialogue might have been,

you know what I'm saying? Like, yo, dog, we we've all, not for nothing, uh, had women come from other states maybe to

visit us. Yeah. And if y'all got into some [ __ ] then that could potentially

go left, right? And they're going to like, that's what he means about you're going to blur that line. Yeah. They going It's just interesting. It took him

that long to pick this as the defense. That might have always been their their their go-to defense. Again, you throw

everything out. You throw the [ __ ] that's exculpatory first. You thought the [ __ ] is going to make make them say you didn't do it first if you can. And

I'm not in a rush to release my defense to people that are about to prepare that could prepare their own defense, right?

Yeah. No. Hell no. I'm not doing that. Yeah. Uh just for the record because I forgot everyone here here. Where does

everybody stand here? Y'all feel he's going down? Y'all feel he's coming out? I think they're going to get him because they want to get him. I think they're

going to get him. I don't care about none of the what the evidence they they want to get him. So they're going to get him. I don't think it's going to be I

don't think it's going to be forever. It's going to be a couple years. Five maybe. I think he's going to do seven. I think he'll do five to seven. You say

time serve? No, I ain't no saying time serve. No, no time serve. We getting him. Not weak, but they're they're

getting him. Yeah. I would like to know what that plea was. I mean, I know I won't, but 10 to 15 come home in seven.

That's a good point. Well, cuz right cuz the question is what is the number that he would have said yes to? They offer from him three years. You take it right

after you've already done a year. So, it had to be at least five five like you said five to seven. Depends on where your arrogance is. I'll just give it

depending on who your your what your what your team what your law team is telling you to do. If your law team of

these [ __ ] that they are thug lawyer was like yo I didn't want him to take a

pleap because that was not the feds them [ __ ] offered ASAP what 180 days. Yeah

we and we was kicking his back like why he didn't take that [ __ ] 18 months or 6 months or some [ __ ] and he was like no and I did come in and apologize to him.

Yeah me too. I was I was absolutely wrong. Shout out to Rocky again for his work last night. Shout out to Rocky.

Like, dog, we we came in here like, "Yo, fam, 6 months, [ __ ] You take that." And And unfortunately, we don't Well,

fortunately, we don't have the loyal lawyer teams that they got and the legal teams that they got saying, "Yo, we

about to kick these [ __ ] asses." Yeah. And again, there's another side of that, bro. We see [ __ ] where the plea deal

look like it's something that they should take. They take it to trial and get roofed. We see Tori. We all saw Tori

was walking to Tori's legal team the [ __ ] out and his legal team wasn't that true. That's

true. If his legal [ __ ] legal bug the [ __ ] out. He he to bunch of missteps

with Tori. But water under the bridge. Exactly. I remember somebody else they

offered him. They was like, "Yo, take 20." And guess what? His lawyer wasn't him either. Yeah. No, his lawyer, don't

get me started. His lawyer wasn't him neither. I know what you're talking about. His lawyer wasn't him. and his lawyer was playing the internet games and all that [ __ ] These [ __ ] right

here are professionals, bro. Yeah, but these [ __ ] coming in there with $4,000 suits on, looking the part, playing the

part. But there is a world in which the jury looks at this dream team and it turns them off. Could be. There is a

world where that happens. There's a world where they say the common man can't get a fair. Exactly. But this rich

[ __ ] can hire this, you know, eight lawyers with their $4,000 suits and he'll [ __ ] you. You know what I'm

saying? I agree with that. You're right. I totally agree with that. So, we don't know what's going to happen. But with Cassie being um a witness for the

prosecution, even if they don't have the video, just her witness testimony and

per her testimony alone is going to be really, really, really hard. I think I

think her testimony is going to be pivotal, but I I think that cross exam is going to be pivotal. I think that

cross is going to be a monster. You run the risk. And I heard you do run some risks putting her up there. Do you see?

And they said even with the tape, even with the tape, they said they got other tapes. Yes. They would have to have

other tapes. No. And they said there's other tapes. It displays a whole different narrative. Well, if I believe

that Puff is is is freaky boy camcorder, man. Then yeah, [ __ ] got tapes. I was

recording. So the same [ __ ] as some [ __ ] against me, I got some [ __ ] that kind of proves what I'm saying as well. There you go. Which again muddies the lines

like you said. Do you think he takes the stand in his own defense? No. No. He better not. I think they never let him.

No. No. Absolutely. You don't pay You don't pay those high price attorneys for you to have to get up there and please

your case. No. For you to have to get up there and get cross-examined. Yeah. No. Ain't doing that. That's the last thing we want. No, we're not doing that. Last

thing we we want. Yeah. Did you see what you think about the lines of people out there? They were paying folks$25 to $32

an hour just to stand online to say what? Just to watch. Yeah. It was like a

It was like a go get in a club. Yeah. Yeah, it's like first come first serve type [ __ ] People are lining up at god

knows what time. What is the second? What is the second craziest trial that

y'all have ever witnessed or been alive for? I say second cuz I'm just going to put OJ at one. OJ Mendez. OJ OJ goes at

one. Uh John Gotti, Robert Blakeley. I a follow none of that [ __ ] Um Phil

Spectre. Phil Spector is a good one because of the because it was two trials. First one was a mistrial. Second

one he gets convicted for. But when I speak on biggest trial, yeah, that was a real good one. But when I speak of biggest, I also mean uh Jeffrey [ __ ]

DMER. No, no, I'm also talking about your reaction, your relationship to it. Your Yeah. Like cuz these are these are

huge. For me it was for me it was Michael Jackson. But for for me Michael Jackson and OJ were the only two that I

felt. Oh, George Zimmerman. George Zimman was close. But Michael Jackson for me was

Michael second. Michael Knight second. It was OJ and Zimmerman for me. Which case gave you the biggest uh maybe let

me reword it. Which case gave you the biggest aha like wow like holy [ __ ] I

can't believe what I'm seeing right now. Roie I was about to say [ __ ] we Rodney King. Yeah that Rodney King, bro. King

we saw these cops beating this man on the ground. So in our brain and I was younger but in our brain it's like it's

no way that they could possibly argue this. You know what I'm saying? There's no way that they could possibly justify.

We didn't see it. Ronnie King, we saw these men beating this man on tape, kicking him in the face, beating him

with batons, and then none of them [ __ ] got a day. Got it. So, that was something that we had

to for me. Right after OJ would probably have to be Aaron Hernandez. No, that was

a big trial. But it didn't I didn't have the aha on that. I don't care about the the the the trial. Yeah. I care about

Wait, what? Cuz no, cuz this is a football

has bodies. Has six bodies. He was doing up. No, I ain't going to talk about

that. Aaron is killing everybody. But I guess I went into the trial knowing that already. So I didn't I wasn't sh I

didn't have an aha moment the way I did with Well, wait. I learned about new bodies in the trial. That's true. Once you kill two, six don't really I'm not

like, "Oh, he killed even more people." It was a killer. It was the fact that he was a killer was the shocker for me. I ain't know that. If you jump from two to

six, you're a serial killer now. That's true. Circumstance, right? I know [ __ ]

in the hood that kill two [ __ ] You killed six, [ __ ] You in the hood hall of fame. Them same two [ __ ] You You

think they only killed They might got four the hood don't know, right? We talking about the ones you know. Like,

god damn, that [ __ ] For me, one of the most impactful trials I ever watched in my entire life was Paul Bernardo and

Carla Hulka. I knew you know who they are. What Leona did?

Yo, I thought you say Martha Stewart. Take that [ __ ] to Adrian B. Oh

yo, let me Honey. No, Carl Bernardo and Carla Hamoka. They were a married couple

and they lived in um they lived in Canada. They lived in um [ __ ] St. Catherine's. It's like this suburb

that's like about 50 miles outside of Toronto. And on the surface, you know, he's this good-looking guy. She's his

good-looking wife. and everything is perfect, right? Come to find out, they're murdering young girls together.

So, the first girl was named Leslie Mahafi. She goes missing. Nobody knows

where she is. Her body's later later found like, you know, uh dismembered in

encased in cement. The worst part about that is the worst part about that is is that she kept

leaving, you know, she kept sneaking out at home. And one night her mom found out that she snuck out. So to teach her a

lesson, she locked the door. And so that was when Paul Bernardo found Leslie um Leslie Mafy. That was her name. And so

then their next victim was this girl named Kristen French. And they Why do you know this case so well? You know

these Did you do Did you do a movie? Wait. Did you do a movie reenactment of this? I did not. No, but

this is one This is one This is one of the biggest triumphs.

Yo, you got to stop. Are y'all crazy? Oh [ __ ]

This is one of the biggest trials that ever happened in Canada. It was It was wild. They occupied like, you know, the

news cycle forever. They're called the Canon Barbie Killers. What What year was this? Like 1992. And you remember their

names? I remember everything about this because it was so crazy because their

third victim was her sister. Third's name. Um, it was Carla Mocha's sister.

So Tammy. Her name was Tammy. Yeah. You're good. Yeah, you need a So, wait. So, hold on. So, wait. Hold on. Hold on.

No. No. So, let me let me tell you the aha moment. Different reason. She need Let me tell you the aha moment in this trial. Stop. I want to hear the [ __ ]

story. Do you? No. Do you really want to hear cuz this is a really

interesting this is a really interesting story about immunity.

So, they know that they've caught him and as a matter of fact, he was also um the Scarboro rapist. He was rap he like

raped like 50 women. Okay. So, hold on. So, she the prosecution basically, you

know, has her as a witness and they offer her immunity and she's like, I'm I was a battered woman. I was forced to do

all these things, whatever. So, they she gets her immunity deal like 11 years or something like that. Then they find

tapes inside of the ceiling of the house. They look through this house like torn it apart four times and never found

these tapes. Somehow someway on the fifth time they found these tapes. When they view these tapes of them torturing

their girls and murdering them and but performing sex acts on them, they realized that she was fully in this and

was not a battered woman at all. And but they had given her immunity. She got off she got off 11 years. Now she lives

somewhere. Husband, kids, you know, living the whole like [ __ ] trad life. It's crazy. Wow. Y'all check it out.

Yeah. Ken and Barbie. Lifetime. Ken and Barbie. She audition. You audition for

Barbie. That's why I can't I can't play. I can't I can't You're a real actress.

You're a real actress. You could definitely play. Are you kidding me? Don't sell yourself short. She's white with blonde hair. So cute. Make a change

for you. Something like it. Talk about cases that had impact on us, right? No doubt. No

doubt. Yeah. All right. Check it out if you never seen it. Tammy Manuka

Manuk [ __ ] story time over a [ __ ] jerk.

I love when when you get in your bag, bro. That's right. The [ __ ] game was on last night. We was in the middle of

our comeback. That's when my girl decided to send me horoscopes.

She text the first one. Virgo. Of course, the Virgo was going through something and needed a Scorpio. That's

the only That's the only time she said it. Virgo, let go. After you try to let go, yada yada yada yada. I was cool,

girl. She sent me a Scorpio one. Scorpio, be there for a Virgo. He is really in it. Yo, the game just

got the game is on right now. Get the [ __ ] out of my phone. Stop hitting me.

God damn. Damn. OG was the savior of that game. OG was great. Was great.

Jaylen was great. Mitch was great. A lot of things had to go great for us to win that game. The better team won. The

better team won that night. Jason Tatum and all your hair products. You know what I mean? I'm sure

you showered that day. All that [ __ ] moose and [ __ ] you be putting in there, [ __ ] I don't give a [ __ ] Guess what's

going to go on tomorrow? What? In your eyes. We got Y [ __ ] going to be burning.

No, we up. We up two, bro. And boy, when it happened, you know, y'all already know how I'm coming to work, right? You

know better. Y'all know I'm coming to work, bro. Michael buy me a Celtic jersey if I can get it in time. I bet Tatum he would have to wear a Nick

jersey if they lose. I'm put What's his middle name? Yeah, I'm put [ __ ] middle name on it like you do, Steph. Wardell.

Boy, don't play with Wardell. Y'all know better. Uh, what else? What else? What else? What else is important out there

or unimportant? Yo, we was talking about um trials and [ __ ] in court. Holve amended his uh defamation case against

Busby. 200 million now. That's what he wants. He said, "I lost out of $200

million in deals." And I got my [ __ ] to give me some invoices and some estimates saying that we had this deal

on the table. Crack your [ __ ] head. Every dollar you make, I want from now

and for a while. Every dollar. So if y'all guess what? If

y'all get Shannon, that money coming right to daddy. Come on.

Lost 200. Yep. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Play good phone. Buzz your ass like that.

Play with the wrong one. My man Shannon lost his deals, boy. They done covered up the Boost Mobile sign.

I love when that happened. Yo, bro. No, not people losing deals, but having

to cover up the sign. They only got to cover up the sign cuz they lost the deal. I know, but you can't cut it off.

So now you got to hang a shirt over it. Like, oh, Joseno just put a shirt over Boost Mobile. Like, [ __ ] we know what

it used to say. What's wrong with you? I just think it's funny. That's all. Oh, man. Uh, let's see what else. What else?

What else? What else needs our attention? We did Matt Galla. We did Andre 3K. We did some Trump [ __ ] that we

going to do every time some [ __ ] comes out. We did Rihanna pregnant. Your man

Tucker. We ain't do Tucker. Tucker. Oh, the Ravens released Justin Tucker. Who

cares? You don't You don't know why he's about to buy NBC.

He's by MT. Yo, no. Tell me. You don't remember Justin Tucker got in the [ __ ] for doing

the Deshawn? Bunch of accusations. Oh, okay. They cla They claimed it was for

football reasons. Yeah. I'm about to say Justin Tucker ain't really been Justin. He was missing a lot last year last

year. You had all the he only had one bad one bad year. Yo, that nigga's been him for a while.

And them allegations were from the 2012 to I think 2016 season is when they all

going to occur. As long as you kicking them 50s, we don't care about them. You start slipping up. I going to hold you.

That's what it's starting to look like. We don't give a [ __ ] We're not We're not paying the reason the guy that hide

[ __ ] We're not paying him no more. We don't give a [ __ ] We need a reason, man. Yeah. Let's Let's justify this.

Yeah. Word. That's nasty. That's crazy. Yeah, though. I'm here to celebrate black [ __ ] I don't give a [ __ ] to Justin

Tucker. The Ravens, [ __ ] They black. Well, I can't Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. What? No. I don't celebrate the

man. That's what I was talking about with Mark. I asked him. I'm like, are there teams that you or players that you are a

fan of that no matter what you just cannot root for? Like for me, it's Lamar Jackson. I would love nothing more than like he's one of my favorite players to

watch, but I would never root for him as long as he has a Ravens jersey. I just can't do it. I can't root for a Celtic, you know? So, like I'm a huge Kyrie

Irving fan, but when he was on the Celtics, I just had to sit sit down. Damn. I Same with the Cowboys. Celtics,

Cowboys, I want no parts under any circumstance. I got I got morals. [ __ ] just hate

greatness. No, it ain't great. Anything division division, it ain't even

division for me. Cuz like if Lamar Jackson was a was a Bengal or a Brown, I could still root for him. I could deal

with a Giant or a Nick even though, you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, cuz the Ravens been busting your ass for No, no, not really. Not really. You can go look

that up. Not really. The hate is the hate. It's all right. It's just I just hate Baltimore. Sorry. [ __ ] been here

before. That's it. Oh, yeah. You used to the hate.

It ain't new. Nothing new.

Do y'all care about Kanye selling 6,000 copies uh week one? I don't. Congrats or

sorry that happened to you? Word. Which one is appropriate here? I What' you expect? It's not even under

his name. So, I mean, that's a big chunk of it. Is it still out? Where's it under? It says under Yeah. The artist's

name is Der. And you I guess I I didn't expect there to be a big market for

mentally ill Nazi child molesters. But he did even less than I thought.

Yeah. Yeah. Has anybody heard it? No. Ice heard it. I heard it.

Mhm. You said it was a bunch of demos. It's Oh, it's nothing that we It ain't It ain't

down to one. I'm not going to It just wasn't He threw something out. Okay, that's it. And I don't even know if the

album is still available now. Don't matter. They was projected uh they say projections uh were 21,000 for week one,

just to let you know the disparity. Oh, wow. Got it. Oh, it is still out actually. I just checked. But it was

producer producer beef and they said they were filing injunctions. Oh, yeah. the producers get they spanky so they

wonder out so I guess that ain't go through yet. My [ __ ] [ __ ] himself. Yeah, whatever. I'm off the I told

leave it right there.

Oh man. Oh [ __ ]

Just seeing if we got a part of the show for sure. Oh, just checking to see if we got one. I'm going to read this. This is

my first time reading this. Long pause. Uh, this is from Theo Culture or the

Culture. This says, "I met Big Pun once by chance. Let me know if you think I

was an asshole." Well, why do I care about that? Might be. I'll read it cuz he paid. Might have been an [ __ ]

First and foremost, shout out to the whole JBP cast. Shout out to you. Longtime listener and supporter. I tie I

tie dye clothing for a living, which takes hours, and the paw truly holds me down while working. Okay, let me paint

the picture. It's 1999. I'm 19 years old. Nas had just released his album I don't want to read this [ __ ] Nas had

just released his album I am and had an instore signing at NYC at Tower Records at Virgin Records Mega Store. Me and my

boy being big fans drove down an hour from Connecticut in hopes to meet Nas and buy the album. We get there and

there's a long line outside the building for the signing. so long so long that

the record store eventually comes out and tells the people in line that they were no longer accepting anyone else

inside. That was obviously disappointing. But parked on the street nearby was a gold big body bins. We

looked closer and it was Big Punt. I recognized the bins from the John Blaze video. We decided to go up and meet Punt

as we're big fans of him as well. Before we approached the car, I thumbmed through the double XXL magazine I

brought with Nas on the cover for him to sign, knowing damn well Pun would be in there somewhere. Sure enough, he was

featured in one of the sections with a photo of him and a thought bubble that had a cheeseburger inside it. I did

hesitate for a second, but did bring the magazine for him to sign. He dapped me

up, saw the magazine, said something to his homie in Spanish, chuckled a bit,

signed it, and gave it back. He was so cool and cordial. I always felt a way about it. In hindsight, I probably

wouldn't have had him sign that, but I always blamed Double XXL and their editorial staff for making fun of him in

that way at the height of his career. You hear that, Elliot? I was just I was just a 19-year-old kid who wanted to get

an autograph from one of my favorite MC's. All right, that's a nice wholesome part of the show. Um, you weren't an

[ __ ] I don't think you're an [ __ ] He wasn't. Yeah. Yeah. You didn't You You knew not what you did. You You were young. He was a great sport

about it. And he signed it and gave it back. Now, plenty of fans are dicks and

will have you try to autograph a bootleg CD. Yeah. Bootleg merch. Somebody else's

merch. Oh, they they do they do they have you try to autograph your like the team you Yeah. Like like if if a Knicks

player they run into him, you'll sign this for me and then they move it at the last minute. It's a Celtics jersey. Yeah. Some [ __ ] like that. True. So fans

could get on some dick. I totally understand. I don't think that that applies to I don't think it was Pun's

first time seeing that picture. The culture. Rest in peace, Big Pun. Uh, and shout out to you again. Uh, if

you join the part of the show tier on Patreon and pay that fee if you send us in a question, we will try our best to

answer it. Uh, shout out to everybody that is a part of that tier. Salute, salute, salute, salute, salute. And with

that said, after the sleepers, I tell you one thing, I saw you in there slap boxing. Look like it look like was

handling both of y'all. Yeah. I mean, you know what I mean? Oh, we got to we got to we got to you know this here no more, right? We got to deal with a [ __ ]

cuz they tuck it out. We got to deal with We got to deal with a [ __ ] with one leg with care. You know what I'm saying? You don't [ __ ] around. He got

groceries. You going right after that one leg. He got shingles. He got all that [ __ ] He already [ __ ] up in the game. Yo, before we get out of here real

quick though, in Jersey news, I just want to send a RIP out to Costa. Um, everybody in Jersey knows he was the

owner of Abyss, Deco, Mr. East or Cavalier back then. Um, recently passed

away. a big big big staple in like the Jersey night life. Um, you know, 90s,

early 2000s up to [ __ ] up to recent. So, rest rest in peace, Costa. Mhm. Rest in

peace. Rest in peace. But yeah. Yeah, man. You put your shades on when everybody left. You good? Oh, yeah. I

just brighten here, right? It's just really bright in here. What made you put the shades on? It's really bright in here. Oh, yeah. That [ __ ] start getting

to you. I'm never potting what I age. Is it a H thing? Well, I got an IBBL, so I

got to protect them. Got it. That's true. That's true. I can't play around with the IBBL. You get the the lasic.

Yeah. Do do is it for like do it work first? It work, bro. Yes. See, my my

procedure took three to four minutes. And when I opened my eyes, dude was like, I I had

my eyes closed. He took the [ __ ] off. He's like, "Yo, you got to open your eyes." I'm like, "Oh shit." He was like, "Here, you

don't need these no more." Gave my old glasses in my hand. I was like, "Yeah, but it don't it don't get it ain't

official." Like, it don't really hit you until you wake up the next morning. Did it hurt? And just open your eyes and can see I see good. I just No, I ain't feel

[ __ ] Really? You just had a thick George thick glasses, right? No, they weren't thick. Binocular. You had to I'm

just high index lenses. I I spent a little extra to get them thinned. Oh, but you had the prescription. The

prescription was bad. Was bad. Uh five and a half over here and like maybe six

over there. sevengative6 and a half. Sheesh. Yeah, I'm four. Yeah, I don't even I guess I

should go to the doctor, but um yeah, that's I would have I wish I would have done that years ago. Really? Cuz only

downside they told me um once you get 41, 42, which I'm right there, you're going to need readers. Yeah. Regardless,

even somebody with perfect vision their entire life, once you get to your mid like early to mid-40s, you're going to

need readers. I've had 2020 vision or better my whole life. Now, when I get the menu, I'll be like this. Same. Oh yeah. So I've been using the brightness

on my phone. You're not a candidate now. Oh, okay. Okay. Cuz it's not it's not going to affect that part. Look at all these old [ __ ] like this before. Look

at all these old [ __ ] talking about like Hold on. Look at all these old ass [ __ ] talk about their vision. I know

that I wasn't doing that like when I first got here. It's a new thing. You know the funny [ __ ] I try to fight it. You know why? You know why? You know how

I try to fight it? I make my font small. I've seen you put your phyises on. I just had make my font be extra small

just because I'm I'mma hold on as long as I can. It's all right, Margaret. You good. You don't have to put them on. I

just Oh yeah, them make Oh wow. Those look like you like Martin and Bad Boys too. Pretty fish. Big ass eyes. Those

are prescription ma'am. Yes. Yes. But they're readers. Magnification on. God damn. See, girl, you you don't need

nothing crazy. What's tomorrow looking like today? These are like 125 something like that.

Isn't that a point? Like one point. Yo, that's crazy. Yo, if you don't want

to be sexually objectified and you want to be taken, wear them. Don't

listen to that [ __ ] You crazy. Let me put my hair into pigtails and put on a little short skirt and it's like, "Oh,

come here, teacher." You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I did that [ __ ] I played that fantasy. Hey, many times. You had a

yard stick. Hey, Mel. You had a yard stick. No, he had the yard stick. Oh,

Mel, your your anime video game bag. You trying to get Where was it? Over there, too. Oh yeah, they'll [ __ ] with you.

Okay. All right. Tell me what kind of gaming console I don't just put the glasses on. You need to cut the camera

on [ __ ] filling out word finds. They You got it. Just go over there and wear

some Hello Kitty. That's all I got. Oh, okay. All right. So, so professional question is the new guy. Do we have to just keep stretching short or can we

leave? That's hilarious. Cuz I feels like this is a good time to wrap this thing up.

Well, Mel, tell us the baddies are insecure. Oh, yeah. Um the the baddies are insecure. No, you

got to you know he ain't going to like that. All you guys did a piece. We've given a show just as much. I hope you

guys have enjoyed the show just giving it to you. You been here the longest. You in parts. Go ahead. Yeah. Shut your

dumb ass up. No, that's you. Oh [ __ ] Sorry. So you got you guys are trying to

sign up without him being here. Yes. You got this. Go ahead. Take no. You better.

Good with some energy too. Why? Like a lap dog. All right, y'all. It's