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own. Enjoy the show. Like you saying, go

ahead. Wait, go ahead. Yeah, go ahead.

What happened? Talking my face. Shoot.

No, I'm just saying that's the side they

don't see. Yeah, that's that's the side

that they don't see. Because people

that's part of Mel's manipulation.

My manipulation. She tell me to shoot

and get right on that X. Oh my god,

I can't believe he said that. The

workplace landed on me. The workplace.

My god. You know, for for a room full of

dudes who really [ __ ] hate when girls

bring up the past. Y'all sure remember

the [ __ ] past.

She tried to reverse car. That's all

[ __ ] day up here.

No way. [ __ ] got lit. Oh,

you're jumping the gun. You're jumping

the gun. That ain't my That ain't my uh

That's my beef, [ __ ] Yeah, I'm not in

that segment. I am in that. That's a

flip segment. I'm not in that segment. I

feel like Mel should be able to do

whatever she wants outside of the Why do

you say that when the camera come on and

remove yourself from situations without

being around co-host? Why do you say

that? You think just like me. We think

alike. Yeah, but you can't say. We saw

Tommy Hilfiger son in that picture,

boy. All right. Whatever that [ __ ] name

is. He about to say, "Was that Tommy Hil

or something?" He went like this. Does

he look like Tommy Hil? I don't care. I

just lied. But he went like this. You

lied. I said, "Yo, I'm going to record

you." And then you tried to move past

him. We'll talk about it later. We'll

talk about it later, man. Yo, where do

you see this stuff? They sent it to me.

They sent it to me as well. My man Sim

sent it to you.

I don't know who that is. Oh,

is Ish? Happy to see you. Good day, sir.

Good to see you.

you real yo yo whatever is kicking in

when a [ __ ] turned 50 it hit you while

and I thought about you this weekend

like yo he really losing weight that

[ __ ] be fuddled me son yeah cuz he

stopped eating sugar I hit somebody up

like yo I need

that cuz you look good look how you

grilling me you look good and when I

compliment you I think it's old [ __ ] yo

you still sticking to the I stopped

eating sugar line that's all I'm

asking like is that you confident and

that's the one We riding with still for

real. Honestly, literally that's what

you're telling to people that love you

and care about you that you known

forever. Y'all, I stopped eating sugar

and look, that's what you tell us. I

thought about I thought about the Ozic

thing for real, but then I watch him eat

the whole salad bowl. Whatever. I watch

him eat it. I think that's how sugar

works.

You tell you tell us how sugar work.

Nutritionist.

You don't stop and then just lose 40

lbs. I didn't lose 40 lbs. How many

lost?

11. That was a hefty mother. You in the

hell [ __ ] Yo, Mark, go in the

bathroom. Mark. Mark, just be him. Blow

your nose. We need the on air sign.

Like a big one. Yeah, we are. Silence on

air. We're on air. Cory be doing

laundry,

washing dishes. Washing dishes, opening

boxes, microwave.

Mitch, that's You can do that when the

numbers are coming in, huh? You can just

do whatever you want. Yeah. Show off.

Anything else? What is that? You want to

go to the store, too? You want to get us

some drinks? No, I ain't going to lie. I

slept on them educated [ __ ] man.

Yeah, they deep. I ain't I ain't going.

They ain't lean. They sticking around to

see what's they deep.

Yeah. Yeah. What? How you how you say

you're to the educators? Hey guys.

Hello. Good

day. Hello.

Oh, what up? What's up, man? How y'all

feeling? Feel good. Yo, I'm good. Good.

Good. Happy to see y'all. Yeah. Happy to

be here. This weekend felt extra just It

didn't ain't feel like a short weekend

like they normally do. There's a lot of

lot of [ __ ] going on this weekend. A lot

of [ __ ] In a good way. Yeah.

So, so happy everybody could be here

with us today.

You could have been anywhere in the

world, but you're here with us and we

certainly appreciate that. All praise to

the most

high for putting breath in our

lungs. So merciful. Come on, keep this

applause going.

[Applause]

Excuse me. Excuse me, sir. I'm sorry I

have to wake you, doctor.

Flip and Mel Mel Mel. What episode is

this? 8:25.

Uh 8:25. That's right. Welcome to

episode 825 of the JBP, brought to you

by, fueled by, powered by Prize Picks.

Dave Portoi. Shut the [ __ ]

up. Jay Williams, that's my man, too.

That's my man.

Shut the [ __ ] up. We got a list of

people that need to shut the [ __ ] up

today. And guess who ain't on that list?

You guessed it. Me.

I know they hate that. I know they hate

when I come in here in my bag. I know

they want to see him

humiliated,

humbled, calm, even wrong, held

accountable. That sounds right. Oh,

somebody's got to hold Joe accountable.

Suck my dick, [ __ ] How about that? Mix

and [ __ ] five like the [ __ ] I said.

The [ __ ] is wrong with you [ __ ] out

there? You said it. I mean, it don't

count now, man. Listen, it still counts,

man. Listen, Tatum hurt, man. Well,

before we go any further, our prayers to

Jason Tatum. Yes, for sure. We

absolutely love Jason Tatum. We hate

seeing that every time it happens.

Uh, you know, my heart goes out to him

and his entire family. Regardless of of

of what type of sports fan you are, some

of these guys are really just really

good guys. And Jason Tatum is one of

those people. You don't want you don't

want to see that [ __ ] Yeah. No. No. No.

I hope I hope I hope it's not as bad as

they're saying it is because people were

saying it looked like what we think it

looked. It looks exactly like like an

Achilles injury, unfortunately. But

people were saying because his pain

tolerance is high. Some people are

confused and thinking it wasn't as bad

as it was cuz he wasn't screaming and

and flipping and doing all stuff that

some people do, but some people just

have a high pain. Yes, he was. Yeah, he

[ __ ] was saw when I saw when I saw he

had a small TV must be I don't know what

TV they was watching on, but when that

camera panned back and he was banging on

the hardwood. Yeah. And even back even

back in the locker room, I I thought it

looked like he was looked like an

Achilles reaction, but people people on

TV were saying it wasn't. He was

reacting like it could have been a small

tear or a sprain and not a full tear.

Yo, aren't you a Sixer fan?

Yes. We had a great night. We had a

great night last night.

Shut the [ __ ] up. Got to add him to the

list. We got the lottery though, [ __ ]

I'm sorry. We're not talking about the

lottery right now. We talking about

being up 31 against the defending champs

when everybody counted us out. That's

all we talking about right this second.

We was up 2. Charles Barkley and them

[ __ ] said, "Game three is a must-win

for the Knicks."

When have you ever heard such

insanity? It makes sense. You got to be

up three zip against the defending

champs or you going to lose. Y'all

[ __ ] was gargling Celtic

dick. Let's just call a [ __ ] spade a

spade. I told you them [ __ ] is old

hobbled washed up. Porzingis right. Put

him on the falloff list. I don't know

what the [ __ ] happened to him. Yeah, he

looked like

[ __ ] He looked

horrible. Drew Howy, that's my man. So,

I ain't going to say too much about him.

That's my man. That's my man. And when I

was talking [ __ ] at the game,

uh cuz I was behind the Celtics bench

for game uh three. Three. When I was

talking [ __ ] he heard me and turned

around.

You like that? When you go to these

games and be right behind the opposing

team's bench and start talking [ __ ] the

black people that's involved with that

team is gonna talk back to you and say

something. I'm talking about assistant

coaches, staff. If it's a black ball

boy, them [ __ ] going to look around.

So, I was talking my [ __ ] Drew Holiday

turned around, looked at me like I was a

athlete. He turned around, looked at me

like I was [ __ ] Glenn Robinson or

somebody. He was like, "All right, watch

now. Now watch, nigga." I was like,

"Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,

whoa, whoa. Chill, bro. I'm

joking. turned around with the passion

and competitiveness in his eyes. I was

like, "Yo, I'm just kidding, dog. I

don't know what you want. Just chill."

And anyway, that was short lived cuz it

was a blowout. But yeah, enough now.

Enough. And we ain't even starting with

this. I just felt

compelled. I just felt compelled to come

in here and speak this way being up 31

Eastern Conference Finals. Looks like

it's in our in our near future. Uh the

aster huh semiinals. No finals in the

future. Give me the finals. Are you a

Laker fan? Anwine,

shut the [ __ ]

up. E C F

Antoine. Not Smi nothing. Ain't no semi

no more. The Celtics are going home off

the semi. You know what I mean? Hey, and

y'all not alone. Sometimes you tried to

get it done as a [ __ ] off the semi and

it don't

work. Hey. Hey. Sometimes you ain't as

hard as you thought. Hold on, [ __ ] I'm

cooking now. I'm gunshot. I'm gunshot

now. Now, come on, man. Help me out.

[ __ ] hit the gun. Look. Get out of

here, girl.

Go to them

[ __ ] Seven for you. No. Come on. We

going to We going to start this show. Uh

I don't want to take over. I don't want

to be that self-centered. Uh but right

after that prize pick our prize pick

said we back.

We back. Uh how's everybody doing? How

y'all feeling, man? Please, please,

please. Feeling good. Feeling amazing,

man. Feeling good. Amazing. Had a fun

weekend. Yeah. Exhausted from the fun

weekend, but it was it was a fun

weekend. Happy Mother's Day for a while.

Happy Mother's Day to all the moms out

there. Let's start let's start there. Uh

how was everyone's Mother's Day? Mine

was pretty cool. Your mom look great.

She look happy. Yeah. Fantastic. Yeah.

And and and now the Instagram post of

appreciation for your mom is a thing

with in my house now. Ah. So I had to I

had to hit him at 8:30 with the Hey,

I'll always love my mom. Is that a

thing? I didn't do it.

It's kind of a thing now. If your mom's

on Instagram, I guess you got to do it.

My mom's blind. It's more It' be more

for my wife. I I tell my mom she's on

Instagram all the time. Tell my mom

blind.

I'll post you every week, but

it's my wife won't buy that. So, so next

year I'll start doing I'll start doing a

thing like that. I didn't. Is that why

they call you Dark Land? I don't know.

It's It's some sick. That might be the

reason. That was some dark humor. Funny.

Oh, wait. They're calling him dark

Lamont cuz this is his burner. He comes

over here and get off all of his evil

[ __ ] treacherous. But but here here's

what and I try to leave you alone, but

here here's what stand out to me that

you know when we say dark humor, you

know, we all you guys are horrible, but

it's funny when he does dark humor, huh?

You just put it's funny behind him. When

I did dog humor, can you edit that out,

please?

Well, that's not dark. In defensive

we in defense, my dark was against my

own mother. You can't. Your dark humor

was against her.

[ __ ] Like if my mom got mad, I should

have right. Right. I got you. Say no

more. Say no more. Shout out to mom.

Shout out to everybody. And your dark

humor is misleading cuz it's never none

of that over the duck. Curry duck. Why

you keep talking about this curry duck

[ __ ] [ __ ] You're invited. You weirdo.

Cuz I'm No, no. I don't want to be

invited. No, you're invited. You just

don't come to [ __ ] I got to point out

how phony you are to to your sister. I'm

phony to everybody, [ __ ] But I get it

from you, [ __ ] You You lead in

phoniness up here. You're the phoniest

leader up here. What? Please. Please.

Ain't no try to fire me now. [ __ ] out of

here. [ __ ] out of here, man. I'm not

trying to

What was we on? Mother day.

Mother. What did y'all do? I had a

gathering at the house. Um Okay. We

brought our moms together cuz that's a

it's normally a pain. So, I brought my

mom up from Philly. She came. I had a

little catered event at the house. And

um I had my wife brought invited some of

her friends who were mothers uh there

and it turned out to be about 20 25

people just a nice little I ain't hold

you every time you and your wife host

some at the house it feel like her

friends dominate like you said your mom

came off from Philly and then all her

friends ah it was 25 of them it was like

where are your friends cuz all right

here Joe

and we ain't get invit to nothing. Facts

word. Well, that's a goal, too.

Father's Day though. I was thinking

about doing like a a barbecue or

something for the brothers and I was

going to invite everybody up here. Well,

that's a good idea. Can I come?

Come on. Come on. Let Mel come. The

wives will be there. That's fine. That's

fine. I think friends easy.

Hey, listen. I got I got somebody I

could [ __ ] dust off and bring with

me. The wise being is is just male up in

the difficulty level.

Right. Temple run three. [ __ ] let's

take this off rookie.

You and Listen, cuz you going to have to

sit in the corner sit by yourself. You

know, [ __ ] [ __ ] moms and wives will

be walking around. No, I will not by the

barbecue pit. I will be walking around

making friends.

Okay. I'll be watching and I'll record.

I know you will with my phone. Yeah, I

know you will. That's my plan. I was out

at the I'm coming to that if you do it.

I'll guarantee you I'mma do it if y'all.

I was out eating. We went We went to

brunch. Uh so while I was out eating,

everybody was in such a great mood and

seeing all these parents and people out,

black people out eating and [ __ ] I was

like, "Oh man, I'm feeling so good,

man." Hey man, Trey, send me your mom

phone number, man. Come on. Go ahead,

babe. It's Mother's Day. She a mom. Go

ahead. sent me over.

And I sent my first baby mama a happy

Mother's Day text. All right. Thanks.

Happy Mother's Day. Happy Mother's Day,

girl. And she said, "Oh, thank you so

much." Who might this be? Look at you

being

fast. Look at you ready. Ready to

go. Hey,

he going to ditch you again, [ __ ]

Dad, I heard what you said on the P.

Wait, but men think that about anything.

But anyway, I was about to your favorite

baby daddy just like, "Oh, thank you so

much, Joe." And it just warmed my heart.

Oh, so my controvers dope. My

controversial question for y'all was

That was nice. Did y'all did y'all hit

Absolutely. Really? Absolutely. Hitting

a round every time. Every every Mother's

Day she get a gift. She get

happy Mother's Day text. Look at that.

Come on, man. The giving for me is for

my daughter. But yeah. Oh, you you did

that for my for my from the daughter.

What was what's what type of gift was

it? Well, she does um I get a different

charm for to to commemorate something

for her Pandora [ __ ] Oh, from Pandora.

That's like over $100. No, it's not. 40.

They're not over $100. Okay. I'm just

saying I just think your daughter ain't

buy that. You bought that. I think you

should just be mindful I am from your

daughter. You get a little card and

stuff. Happy Mother's Day. A little She

gets That's what she gets all the time.

Respect. I want your ass. There's

nothing to be on my ass about, brother.

Yeah. Nothing. But yeah, she I I sent

her a text and that was nice. Something

for my daughter, a card or whatever.

That's nice. Nice. Well, happy Mother's

Day to all the mothers out there. We

certainly hope that y'all enjoyed the

day. Hope y'all were showered with love

and [ __ ] flowers and all that good

[ __ ] And remember, Father's Day is next

month. So, just Yep. Yes, sir. Yeah.

They don't like to They don't like to

hear that [ __ ] No, they don't like that

[ __ ] um for Mother's Day for for for my

lady. I just told her, "Yo, don't even

get out the bed." Like, cuz we went out

we went out.

Let's go. I like

it. I got

everything. Whatever you want. We can

take that two ways, but that's why. No,

no, no, no. You know, we all took it the

other way. So, I know that that's not

Father's Day. She didn't like it soon. I

get out that

allegation you

want and it happens and that's what we

was on for Mother's Day. I left the keys

to the handcuffs right

there. I'm going to stop that [ __ ] Hey

yo, it's right there by the dresser. If

you can let yourself out if you want. If

you can reach it, you can get out.

I like this. I'm going play back.

Certain people don't like their families

played with. I'm going play back though.

Get him. I don't give a [ __ ] I will

play back, [ __ ] You play. I'm just

letting you know. I play back and I want

you to We'll take it further.

I let him rock when she was here. He

went crazy on me. I watched it back. He

was going crazy. That [ __ ] was like,

"Who?" Jordan, [ __ ] with And all this

[ __ ] hit. I'm like, "Oh [ __ ] freeze.

Goddamn. I'm on your ass. I told you."

Well, we all we all had a family. Well,

not family cuz everybody didn't go, but

uh [ __ ] Uh Mark Freeze Parks and myself

did go to the Kendrick and Scissor show

and EP

um all went to the uh Kendrick and

Scissor show at Metife on Friday night.

It looked like fun. It's been all the

It's been all the fuss on the internet.

So now we get to hear firthand accounts

from people. What did everybody think?

Let me get a recap.

Well, I mean, you know, I even got the

little tour shirt on. Oh, me too. Me,

too. I didn't I didn't I didn't make it

to the merch booth. I had to. My wife

took my jacket. Ah,

it was close [ __ ] in there. It's my

first time going to a merch booth. I I

That's my first stop every time I go

somewhere. Oh, yeah. Like I missed the

first song because I was at the first

merch. I was texting you right before

and I was like, "Uh, I tight." I'm now

I'm online. I'm like I heard I heard the

crowd. I'm like I told my I showed you

I'm like yo you want to we we only got

like seven people ahead of us. You want

to just run back in? Like [ __ ] it. Let's

just buy up our merch now. So we cop our

[ __ ] then went in. Well when I got there

also I got there a little late. Uh

somehow I managed to get there much

later than I planned. I was on the crew

chat like y'all was telling me songs and

[ __ ] But I thought the show I had two

thoughts. One, the show was amazing. I

thought it was an amazing show. And

also, I'm old as [ __ ] Oh, yeah. I'm

still tired from that show. Like, it it

was a long ass show, bro. They did three

hours set. Yeah, it was crazy. A

three-hour set is crazy. But, um, my my

initial thought was this was art. Like,

it wasn't just a concert. Like, you

needed to the the visuals they had with

it. The way everything went together,

like they some outfit changes says

flying up with the [ __ ] wings on with

the backdrops and They put a full

production together. I love this [ __ ]

This kind of tied into my thought. I was

like, these two are like they seem like

the kids that were in like the art class

and like the theater class and were like

kind of nerdy and now they're on like

the biggest stage in the world doing

like superstar [ __ ] Like Siza being up

there dancing like Madonna and hanging

from the [ __ ] like some [ __ ] pop star

[ __ ] I was like look at Siza, man. Look

at S. I wouldn't I wouldn't have

pictured that. I mean, I would cuz she's

amazing and talented and beautiful and

all that [ __ ] but like she doesn't seem

like the type to do that. She seems like

she wants to be in her little art nerd

world and yeah, I I also like the

pre-recorded. I usually don't like the

pre-recorded skits. They're often corny

to me. But these were actually really

good. Well, he was like kind of in the

uh was it deposition? Deposition. That's

what Yeah, he's in the deposition at the

end by the time they end up at the gas

station. I thought that whole thing was

dope. It was well done. It was well

acted. It was be it was just well shot.

I love the color schemes, everything. It

was just it was it was just beautiful.

The only thing I didn't like I thought

the ending was anticlimactic. Like I I

thought they should have ended with

Luther over Gloria. Yeah. About this it

just felt like all right the show is

over and it just felt it felt like they

were stretching a little bit today. The

show was over after not like us for a

lot of people. Yeah. Yeah. That was that

was that was the highlight. people

started walking out like I had the set

list so I knew the two records was left

and I knew the order but I'm just

looking like I think some I think they

wanted to send you out on like a not not

so tked up that's so they they lowered

lower the energy a little bit right um

my only

complaint was Mad City I was just we on

the same page bro you can't do that to

Mad that flip was fire but I was

expecting like after the first verse for

the yacht yachts you

cannot like R&B version of Matthew.

Yeah, they butchered that. That flip was

not fire. I like the flip. No, not that

one. He got like a Baker flip. I like

that [ __ ] Was absolutely fire and it

should be for sale. I'm not mad at

selling it. I'm talking about for the

live show version. That is one of those

super super high energy records that

rings off anytime he performs it. I get

what they were trying to do though. They

were trying to let All right be the

energy. So I get it. But I I was like

[ __ ] I'd rather not [ __ ] I'd rather

him not do the record. Like mad I'm just

saying Mad City is one of those songs

that anytime he performs like Teen break

it'll break the venue like you can't

strip it down and make it hard. Yeah.

But that was one of my issues with this

show and I'll get to all of my issues

later but

the contrast and energies during the

back and forth set. Yeah. So, I'm think

that on their mind and knew what that

record did energywise. And you got to

temper some of that [ __ ] if you going

back and forth between Scissor Set,

which was

not as energetic as Kendrick and then

Kendrick. I wish I wish one of them

would have went out first and then one

of them would have went out second.

Yeah. And they could determine that

based on who's hot in what city. I get

the whole co-headline TDE, we're family,

art class, but all that [ __ ] Y'all said

theater class.

That was [ __ ] me up in there. Me,

too. That was [ __ ] me up in there.

I'm not going to some hollow [ __ ] dog.

In my section where I was at, Parks was

like two two rows in front of us. But

where we was at, me and Ian and and Cory

and

E, the three white girls in the back of

us when Scissor came on, they was

jumping up word for word every one of

those songs. And when Kendrick came up,

they would sit down. That's not their

back, right? And then I would stand up

and we did that back and forth. I think

that was intentional. Agreed. I I hate

it. And I hate that to to your energy

point. Absolutely hate that. That was my

That was my take that was my beef about

the GNX album. It's the same thing. High

energy, low. Every song went like this.

Like I think there's a you they they

intentionally are shaping this the

project, the album, the the tour so that

it is a up and it's a roller coaster cuz

like I said, you finish not like us and

then you come back with with Luther and

Gloria. I'm not there for the roller

coaster. I'm not there for that. That's

how you stress. And I'm a huge scissor

fan as well. But if I come out to see

one of you [ __ ] that's the

energy that I don't want to have to sit

down, gather myself, go get a drink, go

to the bathroom like, "Oh my lord, they

was killing me." That's where I [ __ ]

up. I wish I would have sat down.

I stood for three hours, though. I was

handicapped by the time that [ __ ] was

over. I stood I was sitting right on a

wet seat, ass squishy. That's what I

did. I didn't give a [ __ ] Squishy ass

[ __ ] I stood. I was in a [ __ ] You

was a VIP. You can say you was a VIP.

Well, that's the riser. Was that VIP? He

was a celebrity VIP. Yes. But yeah, I

told you. I said you would hate it here.

Yeah, you would hate it. I was thinking

about going over there cuz Wave, shout

out to Wave. And then Mark was in there

acting poor. I'm sorry, Park. Mark And

then Mark was in there acting poor.

Park's tried to get Mark arrested.

Well, we were in like we were clearly in

like the cop area. So, no, that that

ain't true. I ain't get caught.

I did not get ced. No salute.

We were there were some there were some

extra seats there. So I figured Mark and

his wife could come over and hang out

and then if the people show up then you

know what happened always awkward. I

thought I thought I had we bought good

seats but then the way the stage was

there was like a back part of the stage

and a front part of the stage. When we

got there he was still on the back part

of the stage. So I was like yo we far as

[ __ ] I I didn't pay all this money for

it to be that far. But then when he came

around he was right we were like

basically front row for the front of the

stage but I didn't know that. So I was

texting them like, "Yo, we got to go

somewhere else. My wife is complain. I

don't care." Well, now my problem was

when we got there, I thought I was

somebody.

[Laughter]

I mean, we in New Jersey. Mad love from

the people in the crowd. It's meant

life. Yeah, [ __ ] Who ain't [ __ ] We

So, hey, go drive over to the private to

the private parking lot over there. So

where we normally park for Summer Jam,

man. He said, "Yeah, we don't, but we

don't have a Hey, man. Go pull up over

there,

man." Told to get the [ __ ] out

there. Hey, I rolled the window there. I

said, "So send him over to my side."

Hey, but I said, "So down to my roll,

[ __ ] Sergey don't watch the pot." My

Hey, look. He did watch it. He didn't

give a [ __ ] Look, I'm looking right at

the lot. It's right there. I I throw the

one

to headed right over there. She said,

"No, you're

not." She said, "Do you have a pass?" I

said, "No." He said, "Okay, so let me

see your ticket." "Okay, so you going to

walk mad far, mad far, and then that'll

get you where you got to go." So, all

right, cool. We in a good mood. We had a

contract. We going to get out in the

rain and walk mad far. So me, Cory,

Ammani, Ericson, [ __ ] walk. What you

would have did is we paid. No, you can't

pay. You can't pay. I paid and got

pretty good parking. No, no, no. You

can't pay in that private parking lot

that we talking about. And the handicap

is not going to get you in this parking

lot that we talking about. Listen, the

handicap get you right. I was right

there. I stuck my boot up and I went,

"Ma'am, it's 500 right in that boot for

you, too."

and they only directed you to Hackinack

Hospital or wherever people with that

boot on should be at. You wasn't getting

in. But anyways, so we get out and we

walk. I don't mind walking. It ain't no

big deal. We walk in the rain. Ah,

hiking it. Hiking it. Hiking it. Every

door we try to get in, they was like,

"Nah, you got to keep walking further."

Yeah. All right. So, we keep walking

further. Man, we went to security guards

like, "Yo, where do we go for this?"

That [ __ ] said the other side of the

sand. Oh, god damn. That that long

zigzaggy line with all of the white

people, [ __ ] we look that line was

ridiculous. Oh, y'all got

[ __ ] I walked right in. Yo, why you

ain't start

pump? Well, that doesn't always solve

things. I would have thought it did. But

when we saw the line, that's when I made

the phone call and and we were able to

be escorted with the proper treated like

who the [ __ ] we are and how we supposed

to be. Appreciate you. Thank you. That

was great. What's my other beef about

this show? I got a few beefs about this

show.

How much of you had a bad experience?

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't know

where you can ever No, I'm just saying

like before you got there, all that [ __ ]

y'all went through. The seats were

amazing, too.

Walk. We could walk. [ __ ] man. But

anyway, once we got in there, we was

good. The seats were great. Seats were

amazing. The the wristbands alleviated

all of those workers cuz it was a lot of

people working. It was a lot of security

there. It was a lot of security. Horses,

the horse cops, all that [ __ ] [ __ ]

they had the dudes out there with the

AR-15s on them. Yeah. Yeah. No, there

was a lot of security that day looked

like that meeting they had before this

morning. Strict instructions. We not

playing with none of y'all. And I

totally understand that with stars as

big as Kendrick and Scissor. Soon as

they soon as they got on stage, they

they threw him in the SUVs, police

escort straight out. My second uh my

second my second beef

uh

internet. We could put

the who sold out and who didn't sell out

seats debate to rest. Yeah. Yeah. That

one is not important. Trust me, it's

not. It's it's with the amount of people

that came out to see them people. Yeah.

Two nights in a row. Fact. Two nights in

a row. Two backto back nights and the

mall. Huh. And the mall. And the mall

pop up. Since did the mall pop up and

shut the whole all three or four floors

shut down. I'm just saying it's a 50,000

people. 55,000 people is a lot of people

for y'all to talk about the 2,000 people

that [ __ ] 45,000.

It don't matter. If you got 48,000

people in the 60,000 people venue, my

[ __ ] shut the [ __ ]

up. I don't care what you talking.

Everybody's singing word for word. Yo,

and that's what it looked like. It was

crazy. I It wasn't a lot of empty seats.

Little little kids in there singing

those which led to what security guards

was singing, right? which led to what I

did next, which was pocket watch. Sure.

So now, as I'm watching the show, I'm

here looking at the production. How many

I'm counting the dancers. Oh, yeah. Yo,

shout out to the dancers. They were

gorgeous, too. Shout out to the the the

dancers. They they were Mhm. All of

them. I I loved Kendrick's cuz they had

they were a lot of beautiful darkkinned

dancers, too, which I thought was really

dope. Yeah, they had a lot of dochies.

Yeah. Yes. It was a lot. It was like

they had a Doi factory. That's what it

looked like. Every dancer looked like

Doi. It was It was dope. That was fire.

It was dope. That was fire. Yeah. Shout

out to the dancers. Uh damn. What the

[ __ ] was I just talking about? You're

talking about the the budget pocket

watching. Oh yeah, pocket watching. Yo,

dog. Man, this little [ __ ]

These two going back and

forth

under the stage. Okay, now the GNX is

shrinking. It's going down. It's coming

up. All right, now let's get the dances

coming out.

All right, now we playing a movie. Yo,

these [ __ ] are making a killing. Yeah,

they are making it look like the um like

it was hanging from They making an

absolute killing up there. And I got to

say, yo, the performance of all the

stars. That was fire with the lights and

[ __ ] That was fire. That was fire. And

they're on the risers and [ __ ] That

[ __ ] was fire with all the pyro. Yeah,

that that that might have been my That

and Euphoria were my highlights. The

pyro was the best part cuz it got warm

for like 2 seconds. It did. It was a

little brick. It was a little brick out

there. [ __ ] Brick is not fair. It was a

little brick out there. Yeah, that pyro

that little 3

secondsoo. They need to turn that on.

See, but that was in my pocket watching

cuz I'm like it cost to keep cutting

that on. Oh yeah. So, and it went off

quite a few times. Quite a few times. So

then as I'm watching these [ __ ] go

under the stage, over the stage, under

the stage, over the stage. I'm like,

yo, he's shorter than I thought.

[Laughter]

You know how many times I went to take

my phone out and tape and lost

him? Yo, I'm like, "Yo, where is this

little [ __ ] at?" And he got the

nerve to be standing in the back

sometimes talking about some No. No. No.

When you do the crouch down like you

already dog, he is tinier than I

thought. Yes.

He look like 5'6. 55 56.

That's generous. No, he's he's he's

probably somewhere around there. 5'7

maybe even

respectfully mob deep short. But that

stage was humongous. The stage was

swallowing him. Pause. Yeah, it was in

my opinion. It a big [ __ ] stage. That

stage was huge. Yeah, the big U. It was

like a big U or whatever that was. Big

circle. However it was [ __ ] Yeah. When

you them far corners, I couldn't find a

beat there.

Yeah. And then the whole time as I'm

sitting there, I was having a blast. I'm

like, "Okay, sis on her earthy [ __ ] She

on her, you know, that vibe." And she'd

given me that for about 90 minutes.

Cool. I enjoy that, man. Then she came

out and started riding a

grasshopper. I'm like, "Okay, there's a

lot of bugs. There's a lot of bug

energy." And now I got to watch the dude

grasshoppers behind her. Not the prayer.

I was high. So I was

enjoying my dog. If you was at that show

higher [ __ ] was a trip. You needed some

shroom. Yo what? I was loving them

[ __ ] Yo the [ __ ] next to me

was like dog if she if if that

grasshopper has a steering wheel and she

starts driving that [ __ ] I'm leaving.

Yes she did. She rode that [ __ ] like a

motorcycle. Yo Scissor has to stop. No,

it was no back to the art class. But

you're not a grasshopper. Get

on. Yo, if I was a stage handler or

somebody responsible for the Oh my lord.

So the grasshopper thing was funny. The

dude grasshoppers doing this behind.

That was hilarious. Uh, what else was

hilarious? What else was hilarious

there? Uh, uh, for me,

I enjoyed the set. I enjoyed the set. I

love the set. I love to say I left I

left early now too now [ __ ] came on you

right there. Yo when he told me when he

left I'm looking at the set list. I'm

like bro you missed. He's like no that

was towards the end. I'm like Joe bunch

of [ __ ] I must have counted about six

15 records. But they also made that show

a lot longer than I think it needed to

be. Agreed. Agreed. Agree with that

part. They started at 8:15 on the dot.

Yeah. And I want to shout out all you

[ __ ] ass [ __ ] out there that went to

shows in other cities and then told me,

"No, you got to go for mustard. You got

to be there for mustard." So, you know

what I did? I showed up and saw mustard.

Mustard ain't do [ __ ] That [ __ ] stood

up there and played some mustard

records. I got them songs. I was in the

parking lot. I miss I miss I was in the

parking lot. I was there before all of

y'all. Yeah. Well, I was I was there but

I was waiting for Rem. You know, we was

at the mall first. I do. I do. We went

to the dream and then went. Both of

y'all was waiting for y'all. Mad as I

was mad as [ __ ] I got the babysitter.

We left here early, which is a miracle.

I drove from Edgewater back to my crib.

45minut drive, got dressed, got the

babysitter, fed the baby, came out.

She's like, I just I just don't know

what I'm going to wear. I'm like, it's a

it's going to be black outside. It's a

stadium and it's cold. It's raining and

cold. Yeah. Right. I was mad as [ __ ]

And then she wanted to stay to the end

cuz my wife is I love her. She's a

wonderful, extraordinary woman who

doesn't quite always understand how time

works.

That's that's a lot. I can relate. Women

don't [ __ ] with Women don't care about

time. So I was like, "All right, baby."

Not like I thought not like it was going

to be the last song. A lot of people

did. Uber said 2 minutes. I said, "So

when the song starts, I'm going to call

the Uber and then we'll walk to the

parking lot." She's like, "Well, let's

just wait for one more song." Then

Luther came on. I was like, "Everybody's

going to leave when Luther comes on."

She said, "Let's just see." Then she

heard another song. I was like, "No, we

out." So now that 2 minutes turned to 82

minutes. I'm not exaggerating. Oh my

god. So I said, she said, "Mark, didn't

you say Joe came with some friends?

Let's just ride back with Joe." I said,

"I promise you Joe Button is not in the

stadium right now. There's a better

chance that Joe is home right now." That

is a fact. You know the crazy part? I

stayed to the absolute end. I was and

drove, walked out. I was in my house

within 30 minutes. Same. Same. I I

didn't hit a traffic. I got super lucky

when I came in. There's a long ass line

for the parking. They kept trying to,

you know, keep it moving and I just saw

homeboy like, "Yo, yo, can I get in

here?" He's like, "You sure can pull

right in there." Like one of the first

lots right when you pull in the little

They gave me They had gave me an email

and was like, "Yo, if you if to get

passes, go to this window. So, park

here." So, I'm like, "All right, bet." I

drove all the way around till I found

that parking lot. Oh. Hung my joint up

there. And I was I ain't know nobody. My

dumb ass took Uber. The Uber lot was

like, it was the worst choice a human

being could ever make. So, instead of

being out there first, I'm standing out

there last in Gen Pop. No disrespect,

having to talk to every black person who

walked by on a week where more black

people saw me probably than they had in

a couple years.

It was so fr I eventually just went in

the bathroom and waited

with people. I was just in the store.

It's going to sound like a shot. It's

not. With all due respect, Mark, do you

know how to be hot? I don't like to be.

I like to stay out the

way. [ __ ]

car. Thank you, Mark. No, no. I'm

talking about dead ass. I just I just

wanted to go to the show, sneak out, get

in the car, and go home without talking

to anybody, Mark. It's

like if that was your plan, you would

had a hoodie on. If that was your plan,

then at no point should you have been in

the Uber section of Metife. Do you know

that the Joe Button podcast is pretty

popular in New Jersey? I I

get that's why I wanted to leave for a

lot of people. That's my beef with the

rest. a lot of P. They just have no

idea. They just I was in the Uber

section, me and my wife. Y'all should

next time see my wife, tell her this.

Just waiting. This is why I wanted to

leave with not like us so that everybody

was whenever I was still in the stadium

so that I wouldn't have to pass anybody.

If we had left when I wanted to leave, I

wouldn't have seen anybody. But by the

time we left, everybody was walking out

and then I got stuck. Do I was looking

around that stadium seeing all those

people and the lights with their phones

out and all I could think to myself was

one, this is beautiful. Mhm.

And outside it was a beautiful night.

Like it was a nice night. The weather

held up. Yeah. Yeah. It didn't rain.

Didn't rain on me. Cold as a [ __ ] But

coldest. And two, that sweat suit on. I

just couldn't imagine being on route

three leaving at the same time as all of

these people. So I'm like, yo dog, if he

just would play like that, I could be on

my way. And as soon as I said that, at

around

950, white [ __ ] sat down. I stood up.

You got your joint cuz Euphoria was

early. You

wanted I need you. Yo, if I wasn't there

with these [ __ ] I really could have

left in 20 minutes. You said you was

like, "Yo, long as I get Euphoria," I'm

like, "Yo, that's dumb early. I could

have left in 20 minutes. I'm cool." Yo,

cuz what I noticed too, and I shouldn't

say this, but I'm going to say it. Like,

they in tour mode now. So, I'm looking

at Kendrick be in tour mode, too. Like,

preserve some energy. Uh, [ __ ] it. Just

walk a little differently. Like, it

wasn't pop out energy. Like, not at all.

Not at all. So, and I feel him cuz just

being a spectator, I was exhausted. So,

I can't be up there. And you just pop

up. You I know this tour life. Not just

that different like the pop-up stage.

Even though it was a big stage, it ain't

have that whole half you walk all the

way over there to come. I was at both.

It was not even close. That was an arena

show. This is a stadium and it is very

[ __ ] different. That was a big ass

stage. Like over to the part where you

was at them little

not just that. Yo, you got another show

and another show. You just did this last

night. Yeah, dog. Like that [ __ ] You

got to save your voice though. Like at

some point I wasn't even mad at when

Scissor wasn't singing and it was uh the

TV track. I'm like Yeah. Yeah, she was

doing all types of [ __ ] I was that

again back to my impress impressiveness

with her. Like she was like doing some

[ __ ] yoga kind of stretching out,

laying back and still singing. And then

she went out to they had an afterparty.

But when like she when like that went

off, I think DNA come on. I was like I

was I'll stay for DNA. It's like a

encore for me. And then after

DNA, we walked to the [ __ ] back where

our little bands because we had to work

a band. Yeah. So we walked to the back,

but by now the show is in effect, so

they're acting funny. Yeah. You can't go

back this way without an escort. I said,

"All right, escort us." Like, "No, you

need an escort. Listen, we got these

bands that say we could go wherever the

[ __ ] we want, and I'm famous, and I'm

not walking that way. So, you either

going to escort us or I'm I don't know,

but I'm going that way. Like, I'll

escort you guys. Like, I know you will.

We got the [ __ ] out of there. So pulled

up in a timely fashion. I felt like Ice

Cube today was a good

day. So pulled up in a timely fashion.

We hopped on that three. It wasn't a car

in sight. That was like that ice cube

triple double. [ __ ] I was home. I was

home in a heartbeat. I think everybody

must have took the Ubers cuz I had no

problem with traffic. Everybody at the

end, bro.

like I walked out of Gloria and I was

like, "Yo, it's no traffic."

Bet. And we was home. Also, I mean, I

got to say during the mustard set, sat

shout out to the white young male and

female Tik Tockers I saw that was

dancing to all the mustard songs and

self-editing [ __ ] out of the song. That

[ __ ] take concentration.

It was a few times I would have slipped

up.

D. That white [ __ ] was doing a dance to

my [ __ ] and didn't do [ __ ] my I was

like, "Oh [ __ ] he killing that shit."

So, shout out to the white Tik Tocker,

self-editing [ __ ] Y'all was killing

that [ __ ] Uh,

man, I don't have nothing else to say

about the show. I had a great time.

Shout out to Kendrick. Great. I'm glad I

got to do both the popup experience or

pop out experience and the stadium tour

experience. Yeah, I mean, but I've seen

that pop-up show so many times.

memorized. I got I got the one. It is

that one. That one in the um the Paris

show. That [ __ ] Yeah, that [ __ ] was the

Paris show that he did for the Mr.

Morale. That [ __ ] was crazy. They were

both super fire in different ways. This

is a thing I loved because my wife is a

huge scissor fan. She loves She loves

Kendrick, too. But like it was a great

date show. Yes. And had it been 10°

warmer out, it would have been a greater

date show. And that's why I like them

doing the back and forth because like I

said, let's say Scissor comes out first,

does her records, the women that were

really just there for her. Mhm. They

bored now, right?

So, it gave it gave everybody it kept

everybody engaged all show. They did

like six, seven joints, then a joint

together, and then the other person

takes over. Well, that's the thing, too,

is I'm a huge scissor fan, but I was

thinking during the scissor breaks,

well, I'll go to the bathroom. I'll get

a drink, whatever, whatever. But don't

want to leave the wife here in the crowd

all alone. And yeah, you're a better

husband than me. I was in that chicken

finger line the whole [ __ ] season,

man.

It was good, too. It was hot as, you

know, it's cold. All they do is be hot.

Yeah. I'll do better next time. Mel.

Yes. You didn't make the show. I didn't.

No. I went to go see a fellow on

Broadway. I see you got the merch. Is

that merch or is that like a gift from

the It's merch from Oll himself. It's

It's both actually.

It was both. So, um, stop playing with

her. Yeah. So Denzel's security got me

and my girlfriend into the balcony

seats.

Just put them on. Put them on. Let's go,

man. Yeah. So, it was a really lovely

experience. Go. I bet. Yeah. So, did

that was my third time seeing Denzel on

Broadway. First time was Julius Caesar,

second was Fences, and then now this.

How did it compare? How Yeah. How was

it? Well, the thing that I didn't

realize and it's a um is that um I'm

sorry, but I I don't mean to step on

this, but I just have a a step a

question before before we get to the

review of the performance. Yeah. Yeah.

So So Denzel's security. Start start us

there. How you got to how you got to the

theater, how you got the tickets, and

how you ended up in the special booth.

Um well, I was with my girlfriend Kelly.

We don't give a [ __ ]

about the story. What the [ __ ] man?

Kelly, shout out Kelly. And you know

Kelly, big. Oh, then I love Kelly.

Exactly. You know [ __ ] Kelly.

Exactly. Tatiana. Kelly. Kelly. Exactly.

I don't know who Kelly is. No, I know

who Kelly is. So, Kelly's now at uh

Brooklyn Chop House. Exactly. And so

when the play came to Broadway, they had

um kind of like a they had like a a

night for them, you know, the entire

cast and crew, etc. at Brooklyn Chop

House. Can I interrupt you really

quickly? Go ahead.

We need to redo the industry list. Oh,

yeah. On on air. We haven't done that in

a long time. We haven't done that in in

ages, but we should get a clear

understanding with this crew.

Mel's number one. Mel is number one for

sure. Joe is number two.

What does this What does What does this

mean? I don't know what that is. The

industry list. It's a throwback. It's

old. It's old. Who's Who's the most

industry? Industry meaning like mixie

amongst people in the entertainment

industry. Me? Yes. You. And it's not

even close.

I'm giving it to ish. What? I'm last.

No, you ain't last. Last, but no, he

might he might be last. Last. Last, but

you ain't now. Yeah, you are last.

You're right. I'm I had you second to

last. But how will he be last? Who who

would be? I'm talking about now he is

Mr. Outside outside outside. Huh? On

every podcast. That's not what we're

talking about. Celebrities crazy. So it

doesn't m So like the slow-mo walk with

Sim Simba at Yeah, that's why he's not

last. That was two years. That was one

thing though. Yeah, it don't count that

hard. He's seen Simba a few times. We

may have to return for the Patriots or

something. But anyway, I just I just

wanted to Mel is absolutely number one

on this list. Okay. All right. Well,

jump two, flip three. M ISIS is Ice

four. ISIS is three. I don't have five.

Me and Ish tied for last. That I had

that's why I had you second to last of

the hip. But I get to it. Oh yeah, we

got to get to that. I want to hear you.

I ain't three. Anyway, back to number

one. Okay. So anyways, they hosted the

the cast and crew when the when the play

Yeah. Brooklyn when first h first

happened. So Kelly meets S, coolest dude

on the planet. And basically that was

that was how we we got into the balcony

seats. He just reserved them for us. It

was lovely. It was great. It was

fanfanttastic. A wonderful show. Full

full house. Like I guess the place

started in February, maybe March. And

has been like at the end end of

February, I think. Yeah, end of

February. And it's going to like June

8th or something like that. Full house.

Every single night, every single

performance they I I was just pocket

watching trying to figure out how much

did Denzel make off of this. Like I'm

thinking his maybe like 20 mil is the

price tag. I'm thinking I have no idea.

I'm think I'm thinking that we don't

know. We don't know how much he made,

but I'm I was trying to like, you know,

show you got some back end. Yeah, we

sure. We sure. Oh, yeah. No, he

definitely got You trying to divert us.

No, no, no. [ __ ] all that. [ __ ] what he

made. Yeah. Um, so the play was really

great. What I didn't um know is that

they were going to set it in modern

times. So, I thought that they were

going to come out with like, you know,

the the rogue. Yeah. So, not only is it

set in modern times, but it's but it's

Shakespearean language and it's also

like the modern kind of gesticulation

like, you know what I'm

Romeo and Juliet the movie sort of but

kind of sort of. Yeah. Yeah. And then

they make some alterations as well

towards the end when all the you know

all the catastrophic [ __ ] happens. Um

but Jake Gyllenhaal was [ __ ]

incredible. Um Denzel was I mean he's

Denzel. Did you get Did you get to see

him and talk to him after? I did not.

Okay. I did not. I would like to go see

a fellow. I'm go I'm going to try and

see it before. Did you drive? I'm going

to get it. No, I did not try to I did

not. I didn't want to last. This is the

last time. There's something to that,

right? This is the last time y'all saw

each other at at the at the the spot. At

the spot. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. No, that was

cool. Yeah. Got it. Don't you got the

hookup? Let me know. I'm not. But you

still got it, [ __ ] The security guard

remember you? Yeah, it was fun. And then

Oh, look how you look how you glowed up.

And then we went to back over to

Brooklyn Chop House. Um, shout out to

Don Pooh. And saw Jason Tatum in there.

Okay. Say he was in the back. I was

like, "Don't you have a game tomorrow?"

Oh, okay. I don't know. Let me mind my

own business. Did Did you talk to him at

all? Yeah.

So, so you don't give a [ __ ] right? You

don't What? Well, you don't even care no

more. Talk about So,

before you start, did you come up to him

or he come to you? Um, I brought was

brought over to his table. So, you went

up to him? Okay. I was brought over to

his table.

Right. Watch out your [ __ ] mouth by

force. What do you mean? You walked

over. Stop. She was brought to this

table. They do that in there. They do

that. They tell you who's there and they

bring you to the table. They do that a

lot of times with me. She's not wrong.

Yo, this person over there. I'm going to

bring you over there. As a matter of

fact, I did not want to go over because

I was like, I do not want to interrupt

this man and his meal. What the [ __ ]

You know what I mean? Like, it's

something that they do. It's something

that they do there. How did they

convince you? It was Dawn told, "Come,

Melissa." And I was like, "All right.

You're hilarious.

Did you sit at Did you sit at the table

with me? You're

hilarious. No, I did not.

What?

You sat at the table. I did not sit at

the [ __ ] table. Chicken rice. She

started buttering bread and [ __ ]

That was good. That's a little far.

Well,

it's funny you mentioned it cuz I was

going to bring up the the text text that

you put in our podcast group chat. Don't

you dare.

All you got to do is show up to a game

and they'll win.

Isn't that the track record? Every time

he shows up to a Don't try to reverse

it. Read what she wrote. Read what she

wrote.

Don't [ __ ] joking crazy. So, you

wrote this in the group chat and then

somehow ended up at his table.

She probably wrote that from his table.

Yeah, she did. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Look at

the time. Check the time. That's what

happened, isn't it? See, she

said one. That's number one on the list

right there. Right.

No, I ran maybe a little afterwards.

That was 11:10 where she text us.

Hold on. Yeah, that was 11:10 p.m. I got

to do the science. Yeah, I guarantee you

that [ __ ] was No, no, no. The first one

was 11:00 p.m.

Yeah.

The theater. Oh, yeah. You're right. So,

the theater's right next to Brooklyn

Chop House, so I didn't really I didn't

have to walk far as soon as the As soon

as the

perform the theater. Mhm. Yeah, that's

what we saying. Listen, I was just

trying. Girl, you cannot uh one Patreon.

Take one for the team. Patreon. Yeah.

Mhm. So, anyways, take one for the team.

The [ __ ] Celtics won and then he came

back and had 40 before the [ __ ]

tragic injury. Well, I don't know.

Delayed reaction. Yeah.

To the Patreon for sure.

Thank you. I mean, I did my best. You'll

lead us. Yeah. There we go. I did my

best. you will [ __ ] lead us. Um,

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game. Uh, and now we are back. The puff

tri started the other day. Mhm. Mhm.

It's going to be quite a spring

summer. Yeah. Yeah, day one didn't go

well uh for the puff from what the uh

the legal experts are saying.

Prosecution laid out a an argument. I

don't know if it's going to work or not.

Well, the legal non-experts are saying

he had a great first day. Yeah. The

legal non-experts are saying that he

absolutely smoked it and his team of

attorneys put on a master class. Yeah,

that's that's the sentiment I got. that

that's what I've been hearing from a lot

of the cultural critics, a lot of the

observers, and then a lot of legal

experts are saying that they're setting

the that they're setting the trap for

for his team. Again, it'll be

interesting to see which which direction

it goes in. But, um, to me, Puff has a

pretty he has an argument that will be

legible to a juror, which is, I'm a wild

dude. I like freaky [ __ ] People

willingly did the freaky [ __ ] I do

[ __ ] up things, but I never did the

things they charged me with. To me,

that's a winnable case. But the legal

experts are saying the prosecution has a

few things in the tuck, particularly the

male escort who testified. Yeah. Uh that

is going to be a harder a harder thing

to um to defeat. And then the other

thing is with Cassie's testimony, uh

even though Cassie is saying she

willfully did some of these things,

she's also saying she felt scared that

she couldn't. And so the domestic

violence angle is going to is going to

be a thing that may stay in the juror's

head even if it doesn't make legal sense

to some people. it. Jurors aren't always

persuaded by by the law, by the facts of

the case. Sometimes they're persuaded by

this mon. If you believe Puff is a

monster, then you may believe other

things. And unfortunately, sometimes

juries convict you on the kind of person

you are, not on the actual

Yeah. the the letter of the law.

Absolutely. I would I would I'm I'm

totally with that if you present

anything having to do with the actual

charges. And I just didn't hear that in

day one. Not saying they don't have it

in the talk, but I didn't see or read

anything directly related. They did they

did they did like a summarization as to

the key takeaways of day one. So, I'll

just read the the headlines. Okay. So,

the prosecution highlights the two main

accusers um which was Cassie. Also, um a

woman identified as Jane according to

the assistant US attorney. Um, and

basically it's just talking about the

coercion of the freakoffs and and that

sort of thing. Um, the defense questions

the accuser's motives, um, which is

another key takeaway. Um, which is a

typical thing that they would do. Um, in

addition to that, both sides agree that

Combmes committed domestic violence.

There's no way that they could get away

with, you know, acting like it didn't

happen. The video in question is also

admissible um as a as a piece of

evidence as are the freakoff videos. I

think that there's some editing that's

happening with them. So, it's not the

entire duration. Um and the jurors have

been instructed to wear headphones when

they're watching and listening to it

because it's apparently extraordinarily

graphic both visually and audibly. Mhm.

Um, like I said, the jury will see video

of the freakoffs that was established as

well. Um, and like I said, the video of

the hotel attack is central to the

prosecution's case because like Joe was

saying, um,

his character is on trial right now.

That's just the bottom line. his

character is on trial and everything

that they have heard about this man

prior to and during this whole thing is

might actually be what persuades some of

the jurors to make their decision. Um

there was a uh the male escort who

testified. He said he was paid for sex.

Um he testified that Combmes assaulted

Ventura twice by way of his witness.

Uh-huh. Um, and again, testimony about

explicit and graphic uh descriptions and

also um Puffy's whole family was there

to show support, which which was super

interesting that that I'm I'm going back

to the male escort, right? He again, he

says he was paid to have sex. If you're

a juror, you may say, "All right, I was

paid to have sex." He was paid to have

sex. That's fine. Whether I like it,

agree with it, or not, that's not

illegal. The problem is that Well, I

think it is illegal. I'm I'm sorry. It

doesn't make the other It doesn't prove

that he broke the other laws, right?

Absolutely. The the sex stuff is

illegal, but it doesn't mean that it was

forced coercion. And honestly, if the

worst thing that he caught was a was a

prostitution charge, he'd probably be

very happy with that that outcome. The

problem is what the one of the things

that the escort is testifying to and

already testified to was that he

witnessed a lot of abuse with Cassie.

So, if Cassie is saying, "I was I was

scared not to do this. I was forced into

this." And you have a male escort

saying, "Yeah, I watched her be forced

into some of the stuff that we did."

That's where the jury is going to have

to have that that's where the juryy's

going to have to make some decisions

about whether they trust Puffy's account

or they trust Cassie's account, etc.

Yeah. That's where it's going to get

murky for him. Yeah. Well, I mean, like

they're talking the whole the

overarching theme here is coercion and

consent, you know, and so with the male

escort saying that she paid for

everything, whatever. Yeah. That doesn't

necessarily mean that she wasn't

coerced. That doesn't necessarily mean

that his reach is not that far. The

perception of his reach is not that far.

You know what I mean? That she wouldn't

do his bidding for him out of fear. But

it also it it also doesn't prove that

she she wasn't doing that on her own.

Mhm. Like they have to if you like you

said coercion is basically what's trying

to be proven here. You that that's not

proving it.

He's saying she paid for it and they're

just trying to allude to the fact that

Puff did

whatever. This this from what I read day

one, I don't see it yet. Well, again,

remember what the charges are, right?

There's five criminal counts.

Racketeering, Mhm. sex trafficking by

force, fraud or coercion, and

transportation to engage in

prostitution. Mhm. It sounds like just

by observation, two counts of

transportation to engage in prostitution

seems like that's not going to be that

hard to prove. Right. Right. Um, two

counts of sex trafficking by force,

that's a little bit that's a little bit

tougher. The RICO one is probably going

to be the hardest one to prove, right?

But, but sex trafficking by force,

fraud, or coercion becomes

it comes down to whether you believe

Cass Cassie, if you have an eyewitness

saying this was done to me, right? You

also have evidence that she was abused.

Again, a a person could read this and

say, "Hey, maybe this is a revenge

prosecution." Someone could hear this

and say, "Why should we not believe

Cassie?" Right? She settled. That's what

the video kind of that's what I'm

saying. So all these all the video

evidence, all that stuff could make

someone have strong feelings as people

do about Puff whether or not you agree

with the charges or not. And so so to me

a lot of it's going to come down who you

believe Cassie or did he? Well, Puff,

pardon me, Puff's defense opened with

there's 50 million reasons not to

believe Cassie.

But this is the part that I'm confused

about. She's she signed a I mean they

they reached a civil settlement already

or whatever that number was. Whatever

the number is, right? I'm just saying

like they signed she got paid. If if the

idea is this a cash grab, she already

got paid before the feds intervened. So

if this was a cash grab, she's already

she didn't need this case to get cash.

Who said it was a cash grab? That that's

what he just said. She had 50 million

reasons like saying that this is that 50

million reasons don't have to be cash

related. I mean that's usually an

expression referred to somebody getting

could be vengeful. It could be revenge.

It could be a bunch of other reasons or

incentives for her to yo [ __ ] you

ruined my life. Mhm. Which you know what

I'm saying? like, "Yo, you ruined my

life, so I could be vengeful. I could be

trying to pay you back." Which again

goes back back to the who do you

believe, right? So, I think her already

having a a civil settlement makes her

more believable, not le not not less to

people because usually the argument is

they're doing this to set up for the

civil suit. They're doing this to get

paid. I

listen, I don't have a horse in this

race. Lord knows I've covered this

longer than I would like to.

But even with the civil settlement mark,

there were a lot of people on the flip

side of that. There were a lot of people

on the side

of I'm not going to say it. I get what

you're saying. I'm not going to say it.

I I totally get your point though,

right? The ar I mean I I'm not even

making a case about who's right or wrong

right now. I'm just making odds about

how the juryy's going to read this.

That's all I'm saying. And I'm just

saying typically jurors are skeptical of

people when they think they're doing a

criminal case to set up to get paid

later. And I'm saying since she's

already took that part out already. I'm

saying since she's been paid, I think

that that works in the prosecution's

favor. But if you are a person that

believes, look, Cassie was along for the

ride the whole time. She, you know, she

made these choices herself from day one,

which some people observers do believe.

If if if you're one of those people in

the jury, then none of this is going to

be persuasive to So, it's going to come

down to just whose credibility you

believe ultimately. But I do think if

you keep showing orgies and sex tapes

and male escorts and abuse videos,

that's going to do something to the

jury. It's going to inspire strong

feelings one way one way or the other.

She she's testifying um kind of as we're

recording this and she's already let

them know like he moved me closer to

him. Yep. Um he would send security and

assistance if he can't find me. So, the

the stage is being set to I'm under his

control, right? that he wasn't that she

was he wasn't necessar he wasn't just

enabling he was enforcing. So then what

if they pose a question that how was she

able to find if he was so controlling

how was she able to get with her current

husband? I mean people eventually do

leave not all the time but people often

do eventually leave whether it's a you

said they posed that question. I think

that's because I found the strength to

leave. Yeah, it's tough cuz there's no

way to represent the the opposite side

of what Mark and Mel are saying without

sounding away. Yeah, I agree. That's

what I'm trying to There's no way to do

it. But that's what I'm trying to know.

It's just about like it's a defense. It

it I think it's going to come and boil

down to the whoever they pick for the

jury is going to be really really really

really um pivotal. Like if you pick some

some people that

are somewhat cynical, Yep. that that

[ __ ] gonna fly. I heard I heard um they

have a bunch of videos. I heard some of

those videos are very very very telling.

Mhm. Um I even heard there are videos

where Puff is not there and is not

present. So if that's the case, it's

like, you know what I mean? Like it's

going to be it's going to be some [ __ ]

But she can also say that he was

watching the cameras the entire time and

it was an instruction for him for her to

follow and he got off watching the

footage later. There's a lot of

arguments both way. And finally, I think

some of this just a philosophical

question about what how you see control.

Yeah. Right. Because at some level you

could call anything control. Yeah. I'm

about to say then then his his sheer

celebrity would be control. Yeah. And

and this is this is going to be this is

why I think Diddy's defense has more

ground than people may have thought 6

months ago or a year ago because I think

people thought that the videos would be

more smoking gun. The the videos are

smoking gun about sex happening. The

videos are smoking gun about

prostitution escorts and the videos are

are smoking gun about physical abuse.

But when you start talking about

physical abuse versus, yo, I'm flying

people in to conduct sexual acts. um uh

uh sex quote unquote traffic and all of

that other stuff. I think those things

become harder to prove. I think yo, we

know he was whipping her ass. Like

before the tape, in all honesty, people

know that Puff was beating this girl's

ass before the tape even surfaced. But

again, when you start uh accusing

somebody of running a criminal organ

organization and enterprise, that's

going to be something that's harder to

prove than me beating your ass. And

that's and again, that's where it's

going to get me. It's going to be it's

really going to come down to me to what

the jury how the like you said the

jury's disposition toward these people.

How they see people, how they see

celebrity, how they see force, how they

see relationships. This is going to I

think by the end of this trial there's

going to be a lot of people mad at each

other and fighting with each other. Not

about it's not like OJ like who you know

was he really in the woods. It's going

to be like can a person be morality and

integrity going to be on trial. All of

it is right. I mean are you if you're in

a relationship with a celebrity and and

you say well I did these things because

I felt forced to. who I felt coerced to.

The physical abuse is one kind of

coercion, but financial coercion and

then fraud, all these things are things

that are a lot more subjective and

debatable to a lot of people. We we

laugh and joke up here all the time

about what what y'all be saying. The

financial abuse, bro, if that's the

case, it it it it creates a really gray

area for yo, this this house mom sits at

home, right? This man makes all the

money. So on the days that he might want

to come home and get some coochie and

she ain't really up for it,

like that's I'm I'm simp I'm

oversimplifying. Of course, I'm not

saying that they're parallels, but I'm

just saying like that was actually a

good example. That opens the door to

that and that's why the prosecution uh

is going to focus on the violence.

They're going to make it seem like it

wasn't just this abstract thing. It was

a lot of she was literally scared for

her life. And I'm not saying she wasn't.

I happen I I I personally happen to

believe Cassie, but I understand that

this is not an openandsh case by any

stretch. And if you' asked me a year

ago, I would have said, "Oh, did they

got him?" But when I look at the actual

charges and what the actual evidence is,

this is a lot a lot messier. Anyway,

well, she's on she's on the stand right

now talking about the abuse that she

suffered and that is the focus of her

testimony right now, right? According to

See, that leads me to believe that they

don't have the strongest sex trafficking

case. They're promising to have more.

That's what I'm saying. In their opening

argument, they suggested that they have

some footage that is more smoking

smoking gun than a witness. That don't

that don't work on me. But no, hold up

for a second. That that that don't work

on me because I've heard that for

months. I've heard that for months and

months and months. And I've seen uh I've

seen nothing be brought to the table

besides things that were immaterial.

Like you telling me about the baby oil,

like you telling me about all of this

[ __ ] that just don't really matter. one

and two, even with the thug case where

the the public uh court of public

opinion maybe thought that he was out of

here, but but once we get into how these

uh how these celebrities are being

handled, how the evidence is being

handled, how there seems to be a rush to

uh to judgement. Yeah. A rush to

prosecute. It just seemed like there's

some other celebrity [ __ ] that goes on

that

uh helps uh prosecutors drop the ball in

terms of how evidence is presented. So,

I mean, this has been too many months

for me with this pub [ __ ] to not hear

more than the horrible [ __ ] that we

know, which is he's an abuser.

Everything that his lawyer is saying,

hey, he's a piece of [ __ ] He's

horrible. However, he didn't do this. He

didn't do this, right? Which is the

defense argument. But moving on from

Puff for a second, you said something

that I think is really interesting about

the thug case cuz it's a parallel there

around the RICO. The RICO is used way

too often these days. It sounds like

Yeah. Like that [ __ ] don't and when you

ever seen a oneperson Rico, right? And I

Well, in argument it wouldn't be the

argument is that he's using the the

label and all of the things to do this

stuff. I've never seen a Rico with no

codefendants. Oh, I see. That's the

point of the Rico. That's a Rico. You

running the criminal enterprise. He

running it by himself. He don't have no

code. He's saying with his business,

he's utilizing his business and the

people that work for him

to they can get charged. You you can,

right? But obviously he was the only

person they wanted to get. But the but

the RICO is being used now. Like for

example, in the Atlanta teacher scandal,

when the teachers were allegedly

cheating on standardized tests, uh in

Atlanta, there were 14 or 16 of them.

They didn't just arrest the teachers for

for for corruption or criminal theft.

They charged them with the RICO

middle school teachers and high school

teachers for allegedly cheating, erasing

student answers on a standardized test.

It was intended for the the crime

families. It was intended to stop

low-level people from taking the, you

know, taking a hit for the bosses. And

now they're using it against anybody who

owns a business, anybody who's part of

an organization. And again, let's assume

Diddy is 100% guilty. I'm not convinced

Rico was the right charge. Let's assume

thug had been I still don't think in any

of these cases the RICO can't be used

like this because it's often overused

against people who can't defend

themselves. The Rico the RICO kind of

made sense because again we rounding up

everybody cuz now and that was the

Rico and Georgia that's but Georgia is

the state that uses the RICO. Georgia

also used it against the teachers. It

used to be a federal thing. Now Georgia

in I think 78 or 79 started using the

Rico statewide for everybody. I can see

the point. Yeah, I see what you're

saying about that. In the stud case, it

was applicable. That's why they kept

trying to tie him to the bloods. That

makes sense. You get what I'm saying?

Okay, that makes sense then. I'm wrong.

So, it seems like that's a good example

of it. Yeah, teachers are a bad example

of it. Sounds like Puff isn't a good

example of it. Again, even not for

nothing, even with the teacher thing. I

get it. They're not a gang. But if I'm

trying to, it's a group of them. It's a

group and I'm trying to get whoever is

at top, I can charge the Rico here

because now I could convict all of y'all

to squeeze all of y'all together. might

want to talk and roll on the other

person, we roll up hills. And that's and

that's my issue with it. It's not that I

don't think it technically meets the

standard, but it's being overused beyond

its original intent because now you're

giving people who should be getting 5

years, 30 years under RICO statutes for

something that is relatively small. I

think I think that's why they use it.

They use it to intimidate

um the codefend on the person that's

higher. Absolutely. They offer you this

this massive time, 30 years, and then

you end up working out a deal to get

lesser time to, you know, for sure. In

the Georgia teacher cases, they they

they got the to roll up on the

principal. I mean, what it wasn't John

Gotti they got they got they got, you

know, I ain't going to lie, that's fast

for Cassie to hit the stand. Yeah. I

just I think

they joker. I think you playing your big

joker early. That's not the big joker.

He doesn't get that reference. But yeah,

unless that's not the big joker. You

heard your man. No.

You still ain't going to play though.

No, I think I think they shooting. Let's

see. I don't think Cass is the Big Joker

at all. That's what I'm thinking too. I

think they got something. I think they

got something in the tuck that nobody

knows about. That's possible. I think

you think they got like a Mark Furman. I