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The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 827

Magic vs Bird

Joe Budden Podcast Episode 827, “Magic vs Bird,” released May 22, 2025. The JBP opens their latest episode with a recap of the latest in Rap beef with more songs from Joey Bada$$, Ray Vaughn, Daylyt, and others over the weekend (6:01). The P. Diddy trial continues on with more set to testify (28:15) before the room reacts to the 10 inmates who escaped from a New Orleans jail (1:07:04), and Joe shares his thoughts following the Knicks ousting of the Boston Celtics in six (1:19:34). Also, Caitlin Clark & Angel Reese have sparked internet debate once again (1:29:50), Ryan Clark dismisses RGIII’s criticism of Angel Reese because of his marriage (1:45:53), a Mexican Navy Ship crashed into the Brooklyn Bridge (2:23:44), and much more. Full transcript and searchable timestamps below.

Magic vs Bird

In this episode

  • 6:01The JBP opens their latest episode with a recap of the latest in Rap beef with more songs from Joey Bada$$, Ra…
  • 28:15The P. Diddy trial continues on with more set to testify
  • 1:07:04Before the room reacts to the 10 inmates who escaped from a New Orleans jail
  • 1:19:34Joe shares his thoughts following the Knicks ousting of the Boston Celtics in six
  • 1:29:50Caitlin Clark & Angel Reese have sparked internet debate once again
  • 1:45:53Ryan Clark dismisses RGIII’s criticism of Angel Reese because of his marriage
  • 2:23:44A Mexican Navy Ship crashed into the Brooklyn Bridge
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Joe Budden Podcast Ep. 827 Transcript

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    The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast whose bulleted hosts are for entertainment purposes

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    only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing,

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    indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage

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    you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interest at heart or our

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    own. Enjoy the show. No, y'all beat the y'all beat the Why am I talking to you?

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    That's the part that I'm confused about. When October come back around or whenever the draft comes around, we got

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    a big trade cooking. Yeah, there you go. Focus on your off season. Yeah, y'all going to be there soon. Focus on your

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    off season. Oh, I can't wait for the pace. Humble pie. Humble pie. That's all. You ain't always

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    got to be Mr. R. I mean, I know. You can just chill. This [ __ ] told me not to be

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    Mr. Got more on chill mode today, y'all. You know what I mean? It's just we

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    chilling. We chilling, man. Sun's shining.

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    [ __ ] electrical my electrical shade broke in the crib. I can't even see the sun. My remote. I'm just That's

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    the extent of my troubleshooting is batteries. Oh,

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    just turn it off. Turn it back on again. Talking about you got to reset the system. Blow it like Nintendo. All

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    right, let me pull it up on YouTube, man. I'll reset the system. They are YouTube making fun of for just they

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    showing y'all how to put vacuums together. Everything. Everything. Any question you got way to clean your stove

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    on YouTube. Question for my car, I jump right on YouTube. YouTube University [ __ ] and that [ __ ] will walk you through it. Shout out to the YouTubers. The

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    [Music] YouTubers. I got in 10 minutes. I'm going to know what type of mood I'm in.

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    I got to see what I got to see that I got to see what the team needs from me today. Test results about what test

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    results. Yes, sir. It's going to be that kind of day. Let's go. You said you going.

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    Okay. Burning.

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    All right. So, everybody's feeling good. Good. Good. Good. Good. All right.

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    We have a good time today, man. In a real good mood. Thank God, man. Thank God. Thanks to a higher power. Let's

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    keep this applause going for the best crew in the world. Mhm. Get these drops out the way real

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    [Applause] quick.

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    [Applause]

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    Excuse. Excuse me, sir. I'm sorry. I have to wait. You a doctor.

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    Who was that? [ __ ] [ __ ] No. Flint. Flip is

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    here. Y'all flip. Flip.

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    Hey yo, what you Hey yo, look what type of show you want today. You know I gota I gotta rub this whole shitace in like

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    3.2 seconds. Why you doing that? Peace. Why you can't just make it peaceful so we can enjoy the show man? Serenity. Got

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    your man Cory got his shoes off. He ready to get at me. [ __ ] got the best. I want healing. All right. Sage. I want

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    a calm. So hold on. So after you press that acknowledge me better. I did say yo flip here too y'all. No flippy again.

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    Hey yo, no disrespect. Yo Flippy again.

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    Anyway, man. Uh, what episode is this? Hey yo, Flip in the building. 827. Yeah, Flip is in the building. Welcome to

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    episode 827 of the Joe Button podcast brought to you by, fueled by, powered by

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    Prize Pigs. Prize Pix Gang. Uh, I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, really happy to be here. Host

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    Joe Button here with the best crew in the world. Uh, Melissa Ford is out doing the [ __ ] she wants to do and deservely

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    so. So, make some noise for that. So, let's make some noise. Getting that Gracie Gracy, man. getting that Gracie

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    award. She took a whole week for the Gracie. That's where the cap come she got. Right there is where the

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    cap coming. I talked to her this morning. I was like, "Yo, how's the award go?" She said, "Oh, it's today. It's in a couple hours." Like, she took

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    the She Why the [ __ ] did you leave Friday and noon? I was so confused.

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    Yeah. She said she needed time to get ready to prepare for the great I totally respect that. I totally respect that. I stand with her. I just didn't

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    understand. Y'all talk every morning? Uh, no. No, I called her to ask her about the show cuz I was running late

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    and she's like, "I'm not there." I thought she was here. What did you running late have to do with Melissa Ward? What you say?

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    I see how that could sound crazy, but no, I was running late and I said, "Are you there yet?" Tell Joe I'm not there.

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    I'm I'm cutting traffic. You rather call her than call Joe directly. We got my number. I just call me.

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    Okay. I called Cory first. He didn't pick up first. Yeah. You better you better start throwing some other name D.

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    She wouldn't answer. I called Ian. He didn't answer. Then I called Mel. Okay. I probably should have called Ice

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    or anybody. What a dick.

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    Oh man. Anyway, uh Dr. Mark Lamar Hills in the building. Queen Flip is in the

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    building. King Waw Wa is in the building. Freeze. Mr. Taking Further is in the building. Big parts. King Elmyra

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    in the building. Po is in the building. Cory is here. Erikson is there. And I have no idea who's in there with him.

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    Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys are here. What's popping though? Hey, man. Chilling.

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    [ __ ] man. Good to see y'all. Good to see y'all. Good to be seen, [ __ ] Welcome back. Thank you, sir. Y'all looking good. Y'all smelling good. Come

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    on. Where we at with it? Where we at with it? All right. Rat beef time.

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    Indeed. Another year of rap beef. Another summer of rat beef. M let's not get carried away. It is though. It is.

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    It might not be the uh uh main event rap beef of last year, but it's good rap

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    beef. All right, audience. I'm letting y'all know Parks and Ice are ready today. They not they not playing for

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    sure. This is they type of beef. I'm chatting up actually. I'm surprised it's not yours. Word.

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    Well, we'll we'll get into it. We'll get into it. Uh as soon as we left Reason Drop or while we were here, Reason Drop.

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    So, I wasn't able to hear that. Give me a little bit of reason. I haven't heard. Daylight just dropped 10 minutes ago. I

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    haven't heard that. All right, Park. We are going to try to

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    play some of most of these disses. Like they said, these [ __ ] are

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    really rapping, so these tracks ain't the shortest. Yeah, for sure. Uh, this is Reason Dead Apple.

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    There we go. Okay. Shout out to Ree, friend of the show. This is probably the start of the jump,

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    okay? Like the the melee, the the Avengers, everyone's brawling. I think

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    this kind of I will give Reese's neck credit. Why are they all jumping this man again?

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    Talk about the West Coast in particular when he [ __ ] ain't like that. It's no different. Yo, this is the flip of when

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    Kendrick did control and that line. He said, "I'm Mavel's offspring. I'm the king of New York. And a bunch of New

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    York [ __ ] who he wasn't talking to jumped in and started writing. Everybody jumped in off the control. Yeah. You were one of them. Joelle, Papoo, you

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    name them. Anybody from New York who had a pen, who felt the way, hey, you the what? No, this is the flip side of that.

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    I don't think this is the equivalent of that. Why not? Let me hear. Because what song did Joey say this on? The rulers

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    back. I don't think that's I don't think that's too much equivalent of lose

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    control. He didn't address any of y'all. He was talking back to control. He was talking

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    to who he was talking to. We know he was talking to. He said the [ __ ] by names. Everybody else that replied, it was

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    [ __ ] So what? We don't want to hear from you. We want to hear from the [ __ ] he's talking to in his This is

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    facts. This is No, I'm just saying. But if you call yourself the king of New York, then the [ __ ] that are in New

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    York City are going to take that as a shot and start replying. Okay. So, so if the West Coast is having a moment right

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    now, which they are clearly, and then you come out and say it's too much West Coast dick licking, even though it's a

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    play on, you know, someone else's lyrics, but you come out and say that [ __ ] from the West Coast who are in

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    their moment right now are going to feel away and say, "Hey, who you talking to?" That's what's going on. I agree. I just don't think they're equivalent. But I

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    get I'm just saying it's very similar. I want I want smoke, [ __ ] I ain't mad at him. Yeah, these [ __ ] is dragging it.

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    These [ __ ] is dragging it. He responded. So where's the drag at? I love it. It ain't like he said this [ __ ]

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    and never said nothing else again. He out there for smoke. Oh, you say something, cool, I got you. You said something, I'mma address you. You said

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    something, I'mma address you all within 24 hours. See, the West Coast [ __ ] feel like shouldn't nobody be saying

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    nothing about their run and they summer and they sound and they region. And if you do, all of us going to jump on your

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    ass. All right. I ain't mad at that. I ain't mad at They've been getting shorted so long or they feel like

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    they've been getting shorted so long that if you say something about my brother, I'm on your ass. I'm not mad at

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    it. Even if he ain't my brother. You say something about anybody out here, we on your ass. Come on. Let me hear more from

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    Reed. He rapping. He's rapping. Reed's body. All right. Reod. That sounds great.

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    Yeah, that sounds great. Re going. He's going crazy. Mhm. No, he smoked that.

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    Yes. Shout out to Reese. Friends of the show, Ree. Absolutely. And then we got Are you proud? Is that Reeves can go and

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    Reeves be looking for a reason to go. Got it. So I like the guys that Oh, wait. I didn't even get to the part where he said the best rapper from New

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    York is on podcast and then followed it up with a button uh punch line. Oh, please. I don't know exactly where it's

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    at, but we don't want to hear that [ __ ] Yo, now you guys going to say go go keep going now.

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    I mean, if he said it, go to the third one. But the West Coast, I'm glad that the West Coast dude beat everybody from

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    New York to the dope New York [ __ ] Oh, yeah. He went crazy. Damn, Joe. [ __ ]

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    acknowledging the man, huh? I mean, [ __ ] I thought that was common knowledge.

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    I mean, I thought everybody knew that part, but uh god damn. He wasn't talking

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    about you, though. Jada got a podcast. got a podcast too.

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    Yeah, he's got a podcast. Got a podcast. [ __ ] you wasn't talking about you. I

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    mean, I think Dory. Yeah. Who a Come

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    on. Let's just do it now. Come on, Da. Got him. Come on. Your

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    name right now. [ __ ] it. Mayo. Mayo. That's true. That's right. I think I'm aware of everybody's podcast. But

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    thanks, friends. Oh, yeah. No, you know, come on. You know, we got I feel so loved. Yeah, for sure. Um, I

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    do like the West Coast West Coast thing. The New York beats. Yeah, like that back down [ __ ] sounds absolutely crazy. We'll

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    get to it in a second. What he's doing with New York, New York sounds nuts.

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    It's tough. I just like they doing that [ __ ] and still rapping right now. No, I ain't rapping. Yeah. like it ain't it ain't even with the west coast bop you

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    still rapping that's that's all that's important to me all right so who we got next up AZ a chai came out which it and

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    we're fast forwarding but his name is ruined to me now the record was hard the record's hard

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    the record was crazy still is hard it's still the record was hard unfortunately for

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    him I hate to be the one that say Joey followed up with a

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    and called him Ash Cheek. His name is spelled Az C H I K E. And it

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    just it just kind of took the You know how you give a [ __ ] half a bar, but

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    that half a bar so hard that it's like you just we don't even want to hear it no more. Yeah. Yeah. It was

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    respectfully. And I like the record too. I'm I like him. That's the dude. He was a feature on Peekaboo who kind of stole

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    the show on the GNX album. I like I like dude, but that just that cheek is crazy.

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    I I forgot how to pronounce his name. I feel horrible. That hurt, bro. All right, that one hurt. Let's Let's hear

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    the gentleman. You want to hear it? Okay. No, this shit's hard though. It's very

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    hard. All right. Thank you, man. I love that one. But salute.

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    Salute to him. Keep going. Daylight came next.

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    Underwhelm me. Mark, watch yourself. Joey Joey,

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    unfortunately for a Yeah, dismissed that rather quickly with the ass cheeks bar.

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    Yeah, it's never going to hit the same, so to speak. It is never going to hit

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    the same daylight. Daylight's up. Daylight glass, [ __ ]

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    Thoughts. on. I'm I wasn't a fan of it. I'mma keep

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    it above. I like the concept of the beat flip, but Yeah, I like the concept. I like I like his balls, but it's just I

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    think it's uh maybe a little too abstract, which Daylight is going to do. That's a good way of putting it. It's

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    too abstract, especially for this for battle. Mhm. Yeah. I don't I don't need the battle where I really got to I know

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    it's going to sound crazy, but I don't really need the battle where I have to overthink. Yeah. To get what you trying to say. Be be blunt and direct. That's

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    what my favorite rap battles have been doing. Yeah. What' you think of that? I I didn't like

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    that one. Yeah, I didn't like that one when I heard it. I was cool. That's when I saw people saying they like to sit down and chill.

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    That wasn't his best his best uh effort. And some of the ones he did earlier, uh I think I played one of them up here

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    were super hard. So, I went back and listened to the whole chronology of this [ __ ] Same. I made an album out of it.

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    He had a couple slaps in there, but that one I like the concept, but it didn't really fly. It didn't resonate. Yeah. Uh

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    next we got CJ Fly. I'm not going to play it. I thought it was Yeah, we going to Joey Badass. Get the Ray Vaughn and

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    Joey Badass. I do want to play Kai Cash for at least a couple bars cuz he went crazy. This is Nixon 6. Stop this. He's

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    nice. Who is this [ __ ] His name is Kai Cash. I'm not I don't really know too much about him. It just popped up. It's

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    like he jumped in and put a record six. Who is this? All right. So, we just playing anybody that I'm playing jumps

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    in and says, "Hey." Yeah. I mean the nice ones. Nice ones. If you don't What side is he on? Joey, [ __ ] you hear

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    him? I know, but does Joey know him?

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    My lost the [ __ ] plot. All right, go ahead. Watch your [ __ ] mouth, [ __ ]

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    Jump. We don't know him, but [ __ ] he nice, [ __ ] 100 [ __ ] going that Joey badass. Yeah, let somebody from New York

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    getting this [ __ ] off. Get in there. Nick is six. [ __ ] [ __ ] that, [ __ ] I was out there, [ __ ] I was out there.

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    [ __ ] just jumping around. I get crazy, [ __ ] I didn't know them [ __ ] I was out there with. That's what happened. [ __ ] New York. Watch your [ __ ]

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    self. He was nice. He's nice. He was nice. He's nice. But I need y'all ain't

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    tricking me. I felt the same way until I press today in trouble. Yeah. No, I'm

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    letting the daily in this [ __ ] They going to get me in some rap beef. I'm shutting the [ __ ] up. All right. Thank

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    you. Uh Cy Kai Cash. Kai Cash. Shout out to Kai Cash. Who the [ __ ] is

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    Cy? Uh, you want to go to word to Joey?

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    Oh [ __ ] He's generation now. Fire. You got Deluxe. You like the way

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    you Well, no. We're playing this entire joint. That's why like all of this other [ __ ] y get me to the main event. I don't have

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    time for allard. You don't have time for the openers. We need openers sometime, dog. Not on this broadcast. Go to them

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    other YouTubers and hear what the openers are doing. I'm here for the main event which is light ravon Joey Badass

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    and now Loaded Lux. Uh listen, call it New York bias. I I think Joey's up. He's up and I think he's up by a lot. No,

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    he's not up. Rayon's been crazy. Joey upon is

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    going to We'll have a time where we can go around the room and hear what everyone thinks. I'm just saying what I

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    think. I'm not saying it's fact. In my opinion, uh, Joey's beats has been have been a

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    lot harder. This one sealed the deal for me. This is the one that sealed the deal for me. This beat switch

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    and then bringing in Loaded Lux. But some of them earlier race [ __ ] was hard. I don't think his beats have been

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    harder. Ray ran out of [ __ ] to say to me. Well, this the very last Ray don't really have nothing else to say. I was

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    very careful picking my words last part when I called uh Raid a better wordsmith, which I think he very well

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    may be. I don't know that that means that he's a better rapper or MC than Joey Badass cuz it's about what you have

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    to say, not how many fancy words you can rhyme. Joey sound like he got a lot to say about every one of y'all. Even

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    though it's low profile compared to Kendrick. I also think that there is some uh veteran verse rookie or first

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    year, however you want to view Rayvon player. You know what I'm saying? Joey's been here for a minute. He's been here

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    15 years. He's seasoned. That's what I'm saying. Like, with all due respect, it's easy to

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    dismiss Rayvon and Daylight and anybody on TDE that's

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    not them. Yeah. That's not Kendrick, Solo, Rock, School Boy, anybody else

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    over there. It's easily dismissed. Sorry. And that's why they rapping the

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    way they rapping on these records because [ __ ] is going to easily dismiss them. So, let me show you something. Reason went crazy, bro. Yeah,

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    Reason. Reason's going crazy. For a lot of people who might not

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    have ever heard of Rayvon, it's like, "Oh [ __ ] who is this?" And he's killing [ __ ] over here. That's my favorite part about this battle between him, the dude.

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    Yo, I'm independent now. You gave me a reason to come back out and show [ __ ] what I could do with a pen. Mhm. Yeah. I

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    think this is going to make a lot of these dudes gain some fans, which I love. Just rap. Yeah, just rap. That's

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    That's at the bottom line is just ain't no industry games, no no label games, no nothing. YouTube drops.

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    Bad mixes and all. [ __ ] it. Purity of it. Let's go. Let's go, Parks. Yeah, let's go. Oh, stop. Turn this off. Turn

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    this off. Turn this off. Turn this off. Turn this off. Turn this off. Turn this off. Turn this off. Slow down. Slow down. Slow down.

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    Don't make me pull it. So yeah, you got busy. You go crazy. Yeah.

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    I like when the bars give you that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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    Mhm. I've really changed. I've really changed. I I love when you could hear

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    like he going to star power them [ __ ] to death. He going to star power them [ __ ] to death. M that's the but that's

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    the angle that's his truth and that's the angle that they using against him. I

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    hear you they trying to use against him. I hear you. It's something to be said for the [ __ ] where you could hear every word understand every word the mix

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    sounds his pace his pace to me is more expensive sounding beats not for nothing. Yeah.

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    All all of that matters right this second. Them [ __ ] over there is rapping. They rapping. Yeah. And I don't

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    want to take away from the production side over there too cuz I don't want to make it sound I love them Rayon beats. Joey though standing

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    alone. Something to be said for the demonstration he's putting on. That's all I'm saying. I agree. And that [ __ ] sound crazy. It looks like it's a jump

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    and he's winning the jump. That bring the pain flint. Oh my god. That was hard. Yo, he he

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    winning. Yeah, he's definitely winning. Ray went crazy. He's winning. And they jumping him. Yeah. And they jumping.

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    That's the impressive [ __ ] That's the impressive [ __ ] He's still standing. Yeah. You fighting that [ __ ] off like that. Call my man ass. Yeah. Knock

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    knock, right? I was like someone jumped in the fight and you just turned around.

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    Man, that's real. Which is what should happen to homeboy for sure. Like, hey,

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    when you was on Peekaboo. Awesome. Thanks. And you could be a really dope

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    guy with a bright future. Not now. Sorry. Hey, but I'm not mad at Young.

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    I'm not mad now. Round of applause for that. I don't want to be introduced to

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    none of you [ __ ] during the beef. That's me. Oh, I don't. I do. That's my favorite part of the show. And you

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    wasn't. Yes, you were introduced by Peekaboo. Yeah. Says you. I didn't know homeboy's name on Peekaboo. Y'all know I

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    get that for you. I get that. I don't know him. And him jumping in this beef. I pass. I get for you. I'm just saying.

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    I understand. saying I know a homeboy's name, but if I was introduced on a number one album, my the song that I'm

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    on is I think number six or seven. Some people have been introduced to me. That's all I'm saying. And I'm not mad

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    for him trying to shoot a shot. Me either. I'm not mad at that. But can you get to the heavyweights, please? Don't

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    waste my [ __ ] time, man. Godamn. Get that [ __ ] Lux. Godamn. Lighten you up.

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    Yeah. Yeah. That was dope. It was a dope tag, like you said. Yeah. from Lux. Yeah, you go. Got him right

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    here. Dope tag. I love that building anticipation for Lux and Light at some point. Yes. I love Lux being the person

  • 22:06

    that Joey tags in. Mhm. Mhm. I love I loved everything about that. Perfect

  • 22:12

    execution beat the flows. There's nothing to not really like about that one. That [ __ ] was

  • 22:20

    These [ __ ] is just doing a lot for where this be started. That's all that like it's a lot going on. It is. But

  • 22:26

    that's what I like about it. Pride is hip-hop. I think it's promo. That's the main thing. Free promo. Like, yo,

  • 22:33

    I'm independent. The label is doing some [ __ ] It's hard for us to get music out. This is giving me any reason to go

  • 22:39

    get some more fans. I'm not mad at it. People are trying different things, throwing different beats. That's the

  • 22:45

    part like, yo, I can rap. So cool. You said something. I'm on your ass again.

  • 22:52

    If you say something else, I'mma do it. This is this comes to me in my sleep. These is bar spitters we talking about.

  • 22:59

    Not these ain't clout chasy, you know. This ain't that new generation gimmicky [ __ ] Yeah. Yeah. The [ __ ] that

  • 23:04

    could do everything but rap. Right. Right. That's what I'm loving about it. It feels like pure hip-hop to me. It feels like with sport. Yeah. I love it.

  • 23:11

    This [ __ ] get you excited. Listen. I'm like yes. Who like who who got something to say next? I want to hear it all

  • 23:18

    until until I listen to Until Yeah. Until I don't. Until they start missing.

  • 23:23

    Until I don't. until I get tired of it. But right now, I'm not tired of it. I love every second of this [ __ ] Me, too. There's going, you know, there's going to be a million more tracks that we

  • 23:29

    have. Facts. Go rap. We've been begging [ __ ] to rap for years. Word. So, go

  • 23:35

    rap. [ __ ] been saying New York ain't been sounding like New York for years. Now

  • 23:41

    you have New York [ __ ] rapping good. I ain't

  • 23:49

    See, this is where he started. He started beating the Diddy [ __ ] down. Yeah, he did a little too too much.

  • 23:54

    That's my only issue with that. Yeah, me too. It was dope until it was, but then it starts to get a little repetitive in

  • 24:00

    the angle that he chose. Yeah. Well, that's my thing. How much are you going to be able to say about Joey Badass? I

  • 24:06

    think they're going to start running out. I think I think everybody's going to start running out of [ __ ] to say and now we just doing it for the sake of

  • 24:11

    doing it. Yeah. Uh, that was hard. That [ __ ] is hard though. Yeah. Till then,

  • 24:17

    but then it starts to daylight. Whatever your new [ __ ] is, we'll get to it on the next one, buddy. Yeah. So, sorry. I'll

  • 24:25

    check it out during the break. Uh I still got Joey Badass up. Me, too. Me,

  • 24:30

    too. But I think Ray has been right there with him. I'm not mad. Consistent. Yeah. And I'm not mad at Ray continuing

  • 24:36

    to do that cuz Ray actually has the album out. He does, which is dope again. A dope album. Yeah. And the album's

  • 24:42

    dope. I missed that uh LA Leakers freestyle he did. He went absolutely [ __ ] crazy up there. Nuts. Yo, I didn't see it. We came in to talk. We

  • 24:48

    talked about it. We talked about it. We definitely talked about it. Did we? Yeah. He He went nuts.

  • 24:54

    It was like 10 minutes long. Plus, y'all don't think we have a summer of rap beef coming, right? No. Nah. No. Who's it?

  • 25:03

    Who's I would hear the beef that the masses would want to really hear. This is for the heads. Yeah. The masses don't

  • 25:09

    care about the masses don't give a [ __ ] about this. They don't. Not really. True. Masses don't care about this. How long does this run? What do y'all think?

  • 25:15

    Like another Maybe another week. Oh, another Okay. Yeah. Week week. week and a half top. I think it's kind of Joey Bad got a girlfriend, so he ain't gonna

  • 25:22

    keep doing this with you [ __ ] I can't speak for everybody.

  • 25:29

    Or I might want this. Yeah, I might want this. Yeah, it's good traction for

  • 25:34

    everybody involved. Kaning over, [ __ ] Yeah, them [ __ ] is rapping like ain't no girl in the house looking in the

  • 25:40

    living room saying, "Hey, when you coming to bed?" Joey Badass ain't going to keep staying

  • 25:45

    up all night. He got to go to bed. Canon over, [ __ ]

  • 25:51

    I got time. [ __ ] I got time. I do love it though. Shout out to Joey, man. Shout

  • 25:57

    out to Ray. Shout out to Daylight. Shout out to you other [ __ ] whose names I don't know yet. This is This is great. This is great. I love it. Yeah, me too.

  • 26:04

    No. No. Ice is excited. Ice Ice. What? Hip hop. Why [ __ ] though? We're not

  • 26:09

    We're not just We're not getting no rap albums. This is the closest thing we got to a rap album this year that we give a

  • 26:15

    [ __ ] about. For me, I played this playlist more times than I've played any album, I

  • 26:21

    think, this year, outside of All and Two Chain [ __ ] I only got two albums I [ __ ] with this

  • 26:26

    year. Damn, that's crazy, right? We need Game to get involved. No, he can't do

  • 26:32

    that. Can't do that. I love Game, but not right now. Bad timing. I feel like

  • 26:38

    he they would light game ass up with all the [ __ ] that they got that they could use right this second. Game is house

  • 26:43

    shopping. Yeah, he got to chill. I also feel like uh it's a generation thing. Like he's a couple generation. Yeah,

  • 26:49

    you're right. But it was a generation thing when Tiger was dissing Dirk. He didn't give a [ __ ] That's true. He will

  • 26:55

    he I'm sure he will insert himself in this beef at some point. But I don't think it's needed. Yeah. I wonder what

  • 27:01

    all the rappers are doing. All the rappers is busy with life [ __ ] They ain't doing nothing. I know. I see I see

  • 27:06

    that's what's funny too cuz I see them tagging rappers on like Twitter or whatever saying you need to get like

  • 27:11

    they hit Banks. B's like, "Yo, I just dropped the album of the year contender. I'm not thinking about this." You know, they they hitting other rap like I'm not

  • 27:18

    getting in that. They got it. Y'all could do that. I I done proved my pin already in on that front. And that I

  • 27:26

    think the same thing should go for game like Yeah, but he like doing it. That's it. Yeah. It'd be beef that you don't

  • 27:32

    want him in and he just jumps in anyway. That's a fact. That's all. That's a fact. That's why I wouldn't be if if

  • 27:39

    circumstances were different, I'm sure he'd be in here. Let the youngsters duke it out. I agree.

  • 27:46

    The upandcomers. Got it. And Joey and Joey kicking ass. So, we got

  • 27:52

    it, big dog. Freeze. I love when you do that. Freeze. You want to get all this [ __ ]

  • 27:58

    on, [ __ ] Freeze. Nope. I told you y'all not going to get me

  • 28:04

    today. Nobody. All right. What's up? What else is going on? What else? What else is hot out

  • 28:10

    there? Come on, Flip. You was doing some real life journalism, huh? Was it the puff trial? You've been doing a lot.

  • 28:16

    Yeah. You left work early the other day and then I saw you in a sea of Nick fans. Yeah. I didn't leave for that

  • 28:21

    though. But then I mean, yeah, I left I left work early, you know. I was, you know, went out there to be with the

  • 28:27

    Knicks fans and [ __ ] Had a meeting. Um, yeah, Puff Tribe, man. I was driving by with JR to go film something. I saw my

  • 28:33

    mom outside. I didn't know what the [ __ ] she was doing out there. I'm like, what? So then I got out the call and then you

  • 28:39

    know they were asking me a lot of questions about how I feel. But who's that? Who people TMZ different outlets

  • 28:46

    ask me questions. I just told them like you know I I'm not well researched yet. So I can't answer any question. You know

  • 28:53

    I learned from where I learned from the show that I'm on that your voice is very powerful and I don't want to speak out

  • 28:58

    of turn. And they was like okay that's good. And then salute to that. Yeah. It was just mayhem and stuff like that but

  • 29:04

    I don't know my mother being out there for me. I got to watch her. She's doing a lot. What was she up there for? Doing

  • 29:10

    that like just I guess blogging or vlogging on what's going on on her opinions around the corner from my job.

  • 29:16

    And it was good to see her. You know what I mean? And fresh and fit [ __ ] was out there too. And I'm looking like I

  • 29:23

    hope this [ __ ] ain't cuz I know how my mom is. And Jr. was telling me, "Yo, pop that guy. Please calm down because you

  • 29:30

    know they going back and forth outside." So, but my mom was cool. Everybody was cool. I saw so many people that would

  • 29:36

    just like you said uh was just running down there to be a part of the trial or be inside or try to get a scoop. Is it

  • 29:44

    open to the public? I'm public completely. It's hard to get in. I think that's so interesting. Like the people that wake up and say, "You know what?

  • 29:51

    I'm going to puff [ __ ] I'm going to puff tri." No, there's a lot of people that's outside. A lot of argument, a lot

  • 29:57

    of arguing outside. So Laura Larose out there. She's cool. Yeah, she's dope. She been streaming. I've been getting all my

  • 30:03

    reporting from her and some white lady. Yeah, I know what you're talking about. I sold it out there. White lady cooking.

  • 30:08

    She mo bodying that [ __ ] She got But the white lady got her little corner like she not even she go in the corner got together. She got a little space.

  • 30:15

    She not with all that [ __ ] in the front. She go in the corner like it's like around the corner when nobody's on the stairs and she just sitting there

  • 30:21

    getting her [ __ ] off. Yeah, I know what you're talking about. Uh I don't really have nothing to say. Uh I know some more

  • 30:26

    people took the stand. I don't have anything else to say about the trial as it stands currently. ish. You weren't here. So, if you have anything to say,

  • 30:32

    please. Uh, they leaked the pictures of the escorts. I saw that. That was crazy.

  • 30:41

    These [ __ ] was in there with some mid.

  • 30:46

    That's what you They threw me all the way off with these Dolph London looking ass.

  • 30:52

    That's where you go with it? Yeah, they got to be your angle. For months and months and months, we've

  • 30:58

    been here about baby oil and escorts and and like [ __ ] was having a time. They

  • 31:03

    put this list down, man. These muscle head got [ __ ] playing fitness. Better

  • 31:11

    had a mask on in there. It wasn't just Hey, watch your strike two for you. I'm

  • 31:17

    asking you. You said that men are men. It is. It is. You hit it earlier. I took it a stride. Come on, dog. Anyway, it's

  • 31:23

    the second one. You said the men were mid. Yeah, the list. Everybody on that

  • 31:28

    list, it was a lot. It was a mid pack. I can't believe that that's who they was in there tossing up.

  • 31:36

    [ __ ] folks, let me put a mask on and go, I don't want to be seen with these [ __ ] Hey yo, let me tell you something. That list looks absolutely

  • 31:43

    nuts, my [ __ ] They was getting as that was the back page. That's how she started getting

  • 31:50

    back page in Craigslist. Yeah, but if you have a billion dollars, that's the problem. We assume that a billion

  • 31:56

    dollars affords you a different lifestyle and sometimes it don't. Sometimes it don't. Sometimes you

  • 32:03

    pulling from the same escort list. What a [ __ ] Steve. But what if the

  • 32:08

    thought was, yo, they going to if I give them this bag, they going to keep it quiet cuz they from the back page and they from the Craigslist.

  • 32:15

    One of them. I would think that would be the other way around. I about to say I wouldn't think that one of them. I would think was on some retired wrestler [ __ ]

  • 32:22

    He looked like one of them [ __ ] that Hulk Hogan had to beat up in no bar movie. The bullhead [ __ ] I ain't going to lie. When he come he came in there

  • 32:29

    and wrecked [ __ ] Brutus beefcake. Homeboy came in there and [ __ ] that

  • 32:37

    [ __ ] beef. Anyway, uh does anybody have any educated takes? We got educated

  • 32:44

    brother here. Don't put that on me educated. I I think I think the trial is going just the way we thought it. No new no new

  • 32:50

    information. I know Don Rashard's testimony yesterday was um it didn't it

  • 32:55

    wasn't earthshattering. I think her didn't sway. It didn't sway one way the other. She she made some points but it was a lot of the same stuff from a civil

  • 33:01

    trial and then um and there was some times where the defense where they were asking question she didn't remember uh

  • 33:06

    certain details. Uh but there was no they said they chewed up and they said she Yeah. They said they chewed up and they said she met up with the feds eight

  • 33:12

    times I guess prior. Yeah. And then some of the stuff that she forgot to mention or she didn't mention when she met up with them. That was something that they

  • 33:19

    held on to. I think what's interesting though is that a lot of the witnesses have said now I don't recall and that was too long ago. And and and the each

  • 33:25

    each side is kind of being selective about when they think that's a big deal to not remember when they don't. So I'm curious to know how the jury interprets

  • 33:31

    that. Well, Dawn said her she keeps remembering things as time goes on. And then Puff's defense was like, "Isn't

  • 33:38

    that the opposite of how it goes? Like don't people normally forget as time goes on?" right? Unless somebody remembering things, which is not a good

  • 33:43

    look, you know, but again, I'm I'm curious to know how it plays out long term in terms of how the jury sees it. It's going to be a long trial. So, I'm

  • 33:50

    I'm wondering if in at the end of this so-called 8 weeks if people how much Cassie or Dawn or whoever will even

  • 33:56

    still be in people's minds. You think you think it'll last 8 weeks? They said that at the beginning. The pacing seems

  • 34:02

    a little fast to me. Like it wouldn't shock me if it was like five or six weeks. They they four or five people now. Yeah. Yeah. They got Cassie mom on

  • 34:07

    the stand now. But but I'm wondering if there's something we just don't know. You know, you could have a witness that could that could last 10 days depending

  • 34:13

    on how things go. I just don't know. Cassie wasn't pregnant. I'm sure that they would have loved her to stay longer. I'm sure they would have put her

  • 34:19

    towards the end of the trial. Yeah. Ideally, so that's the freshest thing on people's minds before deliberation or

  • 34:24

    whatever. And I don't know how true it is, but I read that that Jane uh do three is not testifying. They can't find

  • 34:31

    her. If I

  • 34:36

    from from basically what I um y'all sleeping on that I'm not saying

  • 34:46

    yo everybody just got silent on the same time actually don't say that man [ __ ] is

  • 34:53

    coming with shade going to come is it a law stop I think they got him too by the

  • 35:01

    I'm just having fun. I do think they got him already. I keep saying that. Yeah, they got him from Well, now also, mind

  • 35:07

    you, I've been I've been wrong anytime I've guessed the verdict of one of these

  • 35:13

    major celebrity trials. I've been wrong. So, let me just say that, too. I think they got him cuz they want to get him. I

  • 35:19

    said that when you were here. I would agree with that. But, I'm talking about if I'm judging based off what I'm seeing take place. No, I think you're judging

  • 35:25

    based off of the before the trial when the news outlets were saying they have

  • 35:31

    all these informations on Puff. So then people like, damn, they got him. But now that we're going through the trial, it's

  • 35:36

    looking a little different. Every day somebody get in that stand, they prove that he was beating [ __ ] up and

  • 35:42

    he not on trial for beating. He's not on trial for that for domestic. But yeah, but I still think they'll get him by

  • 35:47

    making people see that this [ __ ] is a menace. Got it. This [ __ ] hit Cassie

  • 35:53

    friend with the hammer. It's like, "All right, you just go." No, for real. I'm reading the [ __ ] You can't hit. All

  • 36:00

    right. I think I I think they going to get them just because they can't have Thug go free and Puff go free back to

  • 36:06

    back. That ain't I think they got him because them other trials wasn't the feds. The feds got to they make a tight.

  • 36:13

    When the feds come, it's different. I I think that thus far from the evidence that we've seen thus far and from the

  • 36:20

    reports that have been released thus far I think he win it. They said that the judge said the judge stated like

  • 36:27

    what does this have to do with racketeering? They said the judge said that somebody

  • 36:32

    So when the judges started being like yo dog y it don't it don't farewell. That's what

  • 36:38

    the judge in Atlanta kept doing. Yo dog what are we talking about? I think that's what I'm curious to know

  • 36:44

    what the next four or five weeks going to look like. They're laying this out slow cuz I think what they're trying to lay out now is not just that puff

  • 36:50

    character flaws character. But also another thing is is that part of the the sex trafficking thing is coercion force

  • 36:57

    or fraud. And I think they're trying to show that he has the ability to dominate and coersse and and terrify people. And

  • 37:03

    so it's not just he's a [ __ ] up person. True. But also like he's capable of making people disappear. He's capable

  • 37:08

    of doing these things. So you might really feel like you have to get involved in commercial. So we going to show how violent he is. That's not

  • 37:13

    enough to me. No, but we going we going to lay it out slow. So we going to show how violent he is. We're going to show

  • 37:18

    he has a a a history of violence and making these things happen. Cool. Now when you

  • 37:25

    go down the line and say, "Yo, why did you stay for so long?" Boom. He was violent. Y'all saw that he did XYZ to

  • 37:32

    these people. So I think they laying it out slow. I didn't want my car to blow up. Right now though, I think he's winning. Until they come through and tie

  • 37:38

    it all together, then they might do a masterful job of doing so. But I think as of right now, he's definitely

  • 37:45

    winning. It's is it's it's a whole bunch of reasonable doubt in in what we've heard in the first two weeks. Here's the

  • 37:52

    other thing though, and this is what I've been thinking about. I mean, it seems like the the prostitution stuff seems pretty cut and dry, though, right?

  • 37:58

    I think you're right about the racketeering. They ain't proving that at all. But is there any doubt that he paid

  • 38:04

    for prostitutes and had him travel? I'm cloudy. I know y'all read it here.

  • 38:10

    I'm cloudy on if that's sex trafficking. Yeah, me too. Like because cuz cuz some people's version of coercion is

  • 38:15

    different. We read the definition of coercion up here, but he can't necessarily forcefully say that he did

  • 38:21

    those things. And I think that's where your point about the early thing is is is is really important to tie those two

  • 38:26

    things together because if because if if I say I didn't coers him to do it and he says yes he did and and we've already

  • 38:33

    established for 3 weeks that you that you coers everybody doing everything cuz everybody's scared of you. I think now

  • 38:38

    all of a sudden see but you being scared of me is not coercion and that's where it's tricky. No, but if you have a if

  • 38:45

    you have a history of and not me, some people are anybody anybody, but if we

  • 38:51

    have a history of when I step out of line, he beat my ass, right? So now I might have did all of these 20 things

  • 38:57

    voluntarily just so I ducked getting a ass whooping. And what I'm saying is I'm not certain in the court of law that

  • 39:06

    that proves that. I know that Puff's defense attorney was asking Cassie,

  • 39:12

    "Hey, did he ever beat your ass when you said no to a freakoff?" And the answer

  • 39:17

    was no. So, I'm that their angle was okay. Whatever the domestic abuse was

  • 39:23

    about, it wasn't about these freakoffs. That just sounds like a wild sentence to even

  • 39:28

    say. No, but and they and so I don't so I don't know. I don't know where the the jurors fall on that. And from what I've

  • 39:35

    seen also, they were having the freakoffs when he wasn't even present. So if that's if that's for souvenirs,

  • 39:42

    but that lends to yo dog, she was doing this [ __ ] when I wasn't even there. And she was the uh alpha,

  • 39:50

    you know what I'm saying? And and and the and the lead person in these activities and I wasn't even there. So I think that also buys him a little bit of

  • 39:58

    uh reasonable doubt. I mean, now I did hear that they're trying to get a uh a

  • 40:04

    doctor up there to talk about trauma, right? Um because they stated that Cassie did text him in 2018 and 2020.

  • 40:12

    You know what I mean? After she said the abuse happened, after they broke up. So, they're trying to say that um maybe in

  • 40:20

    2023 when she filed the lawsuit that she had time to realize that she was going

  • 40:25

    through something or it was traumatic or it was toxic. She felt safe and free. Yeah, she felt safe and free. But what

  • 40:31

    the defense is trying to say is that you said Puff is all these things, but you told him that you missed him. You were already engaged in relationship,

  • 40:37

    pregnant with your child, and you're reaching out to Puff, telling him how much you missed him, saying that he's your best friend, saying that, you know,

  • 40:43

    you wouldn't be here if it wasn't for him. Your life wouldn't be this magnificent if it wasn't for him. So, it

  • 40:49

    Yeah, it's a great I was think about this this weekend. You know, we all we talked about the cult stuff before, but I I I was thinking about when I lived in

  • 40:56

    the cult and some of the kids who got molested. Some of them moved back in. I was thinking about how many of them went

  • 41:01

    back a year later or 6 months later or 2 years later or who said they missed we

  • 41:06

    the name we call they they missed the leader. And at the time I couldn't understand why they would do that [ __ ]

  • 41:12

    either. I I didn't get molested. So, you know, I was it was easy for me to be out. I thought I you know a lot of them

  • 41:18

    went back. So, I guess for me I can wrap my mind around it. Understand? But I remember their defense was the same thing. If I was this monster, why are

  • 41:23

    these kids coming back? I don't know what's true and what's not true. But I do know that they're going to have to

  • 41:29

    convince the jury that that's possible because there's a lot of pe everybody up here. We made this conversation last week who's who's doubtful about that

  • 41:35

    piece. Jurors are going to be doubtful about that, too. So, they're going to they're going to have to do some real convincing. Question for you. You said

  • 41:41

    that when you were in the cult, though, when you left, you were basically homeless. Yeah. Right. And you had

  • 41:46

    nowhere to turn and nowhere to go. Right. So as as a lot of [ __ ] that go do that to Mark. Yo, he got

  • 41:51

    himself together. No, I'm No, but he was ashamed. He said he didn't want to go back home because he had issu

  • 41:58

    disagreement with loving greatness. What I'm saying is a lot of [ __ ] when they come home from jail, they

  • 42:03

    don't be having nowhere to go. And as [ __ ] up as jail is, [ __ ] will do some [ __ ] to go right back to jail to what they know. Yep. Where they

  • 42:10

    comfortable. Yeah. It's a comfort thing. Maybe more so than facing the outside world and all of the [ __ ] and adversity

  • 42:15

    that comes along with that. You might as well go back to what you know. Exactly. And that could be potentially it. Especially when what you know is

  • 42:20

    actually like a mansion. Three hots in the Yeah. All [ __ ] Yeah. It's like Cassie had a whole much better warm, you

  • 42:28

    know, her option was even better. So that's that's that's just a I totally could see how it would happen. It

  • 42:33

    doesn't make her right. It doesn't make her wrong. But I could see it. It doesn't when I see that her do that, I don't go that proves that that proves

  • 42:39

    she lying. But but who's lying? See that and say if if she went back then she

  • 42:45

    then she must be lying. I'm saying that doesn't necessarily mean it for me. The thing that come the the the thing that a

  • 42:51

    lot of people had trouble with when it came to Cassie or as it pertains to Cassie and I don't want to stay on her cuz she's no longer on the stand. Um

  • 43:00

    they had a problem with how she how she left. She left

  • 43:06

    because she realized she could never live up to the ghost of Kim Porter. Kim

  • 43:11

    Porter. She He didn't want to have a baby with her. All of those things are kind of saying now you didn't leave as

  • 43:18

    an as a result of abuse. You left as a result of he wouldn't fulfill the things that you wanted out of your significant

  • 43:25

    other. And even when they asked her on the stand, it's like she almost stopped herself short of saying, "Yo, I still love this man." Yeah. And she might. So

  • 43:32

    it gets tricky. She might. And she might. And she might. Listen, she's not on trial. That's she not. But we not in

  • 43:38

    court. Yeah. Also true. Mark, how do you look at this? Right.

  • 43:43

    Um we say that when we talk about the government and everything and and the

  • 43:49

    current people in power, we say that the world is this way, right? Like people

  • 43:54

    think this way, people think like misogynistic and people have this way, this skewed view of viewing the world.

  • 44:01

    And then when you go in the trial, right, and you listening to what's going on, are we hoping

  • 44:08

    that, and help me cuz you know, take a time. Are we hoping that people will see things from a different lens? Because if

  • 44:15

    if we still see if the world is [ __ ] up, Trump and all that [ __ ] and people have this view and we don't look at

  • 44:20

    things about from the trauma perspective or we don't acknowledge some of the people don't acknowledge post not postpartum uh Stockholm syndrome. Are we

  • 44:29

    hoping that they do see that view or look differently cuz the judge or the

  • 44:34

    jury may come from I guess the right side of the wing if you understand what I'm saying? You understand what I I

  • 44:39

    don't think it's a but I think the issues I'd be curious to know what y'all think but I and I think the issues are bigger even than

  • 44:46

    just the last two years, four years, eight years, 10 years. I think it's just the way society looks at things that

  • 44:51

    doesn't stop at a at an election. So I think in general we don't believe survivors in general. We don't trust the

  • 44:57

    testimony of people who say they were abused or we're skeptical about because we don't talk to people who get harmed a

  • 45:02

    lot. We think that getting harmed looks a certain way. You get abused, you walk out, you never come back. And anybody

  • 45:07

    who does something different, we see that as evidence that they might not be as harmed as they were volunteering

  • 45:12

    almost. Exactly. So, so, so that's always the tug of war. And so, I think in the courtroom, you you're almost

  • 45:18

    having to educate the jury Yeah. about how to look at the world differently when ideally we should be doing that for

  • 45:24

    each other so that you never even we never even get to that place. You know what I'm saying? And I think that's why it's an uphill battle. And that's why a

  • 45:29

    lot of people don't go to court. That's why a lot of people don't go to the police. That's why a lot of people don't sue. It's not cuz they're not harmed. is

  • 45:35

    because they don't want to have to go through all this [ __ ] where they end up being the person that gets scrutinized

  • 45:40

    as much as if not more than the person who actually did the harm. So, you know, I I don't and I think attorneys are

  • 45:46

    hoping the same thing. I think they're hoping the world looks at the world the way they we always do, you know, and and

  • 45:51

    that's why I think he's got more hope than most people. And and I know we gota we got to jump to something else, but

  • 45:57

    like it's the only other thing is I say I know sometimes we say the feds are unbeatable and they do have like a 99%

  • 46:02

    rate 98 but a lot of that is because of please most of it is almost all of it is

  • 46:08

    plea bargaining and so a lot of time they just put so much weight on you that um you feel you feel like you have to

  • 46:15

    ple you could be innocent and if you know these [ __ ] got a 90 something percentile um uh victory rate and they

  • 46:22

    offer you you looking at 40 years and these These [ __ ] say, "Yo, take this 3 years." You could be innocent, my [ __ ]

  • 46:27

    Now, now you weighing, "Yo, 3 years, 85% of 3 years or 40 years." Yo, if I go

  • 46:35

    take this two and some change, I could still see my kids grow up. So, you get what I'm saying? They face they they they put damn near uh uh immeasurable

  • 46:44

    odds up, you know what I mean? Put you up against immeasurable odds and [ __ ] that take the easier route, right? That don't necessarily mean that they they

  • 46:50

    kicking ass. But when you got money and lawyers now odds go down a whole lot considerably considerably. So don't

  • 46:57

    think he's going up against 98%. He might be going up against 50% for all. You know what I'm saying? It's it's a lot better odds and you got resources.

  • 47:03

    Sure. Um I know we got an ad to get to, but can you all tell me what life can potentially look like for Puff in the

  • 47:10

    event that he's out? What does that look like? Out completely exonerated or out as in I did two years.

  • 47:18

    Yeah. And I got time served or that or that. Which one? I think it's two different answers. I think it's two different scenarios. Even but even if

  • 47:24

    even if he even if he and I said this yesterday, even if he's found innocent, not guilty, some st based off the video,

  • 47:32

    some stains are unremovable. His life is wrong. Yeah. Some stains are unre people would still mess with Puff,

  • 47:37

    but some stains are unremovable. That that video of Cassie was still playing people's ass. I understand that video,

  • 47:42

    but this is Puff. If he gets completely exonerated of this and walks away a free man. He's got a lot of powerful ass

  • 47:49

    friends and a lot of people who want to show that, yo, I had your back. I never turned on you. And it's going to be a lot of that happening. And I think Puff

  • 47:56

    will bounce back. So, you think the video you think the video would dis that view of the video would disappear? Not I mean, and and it'll be talk in the

  • 48:02

    public's mind. But I'm just saying in terms of Puff getting back to what been back to the money, I don't think that

  • 48:08

    would halt him, stop him at all. I think he'll be able to get to the money. I do think it'll be a little bit difficult for him to be like public facing in the

  • 48:14

    way that he has been for 30 some years. Walk the dog for me. get to the money where I don't think he could take that

  • 48:19

    like how Puff could go back to revolt tomorrow if he's an innocent man. Well, he sold it, right? So, remember he he

  • 48:26

    sold wasn't it public? He he sold his shares. Yeah, but what? Come on. I'm

  • 48:31

    saying he sold his shares and resigned. I'm just saying like if he wanted to be associated with me giving my shares to

  • 48:37

    somebody or me losing my shares don't necessarily mean I don't have control of

  • 48:42

    my shuff situation. Ownership and control are different. I think a large part of Puff's brand has been him being

  • 48:47

    a public figure and I don't see how he can be a public figure anymore. But there's a lot of people that's still on

  • 48:53

    Puff's side that are in the public. I think it depends. A lot of people [ __ ] out here screaming free

  • 48:59

    puff wearing. It's a lot of people. I got a slightly different take. They won't hold. Let's go around the room.

  • 49:04

    I'm asking like who are you talking about artist wise Joe? Are you talking about people? But nobody we I guess what

  • 49:09

    ICE is saying is that the people that's not publicly condemning him, we automatically deem that they're on the

  • 49:15

    side. If they're not criticizing him, if they had no comment, we automatically think that, okay, they're waiting to see

  • 49:20

    how they should play. Yeah. They're waiting to see how they play. Puff. We are in a social climate where if somebody might 100% feel like free puff.

  • 49:30

    You can't say that publicly for fear of damaging your own brand. You just want to know where he's getting his money

  • 49:36

    from. That's my answer. I just think in total we all I just think I think Puff

  • 49:44

    has enough capital. I don't know where his money is. I think he has enough capital. I think he got enough

  • 49:50

    networking. Like we forgetting, bro. Puff was at the bottom working with Martha Stewart and all them [ __ ] back in the 90s. Like he got enough

  • 49:57

    resources, I think, where he can go invest his money and make a bunch of money. I think that he has enough ownership of of people's intellectual

  • 50:04

    property to keep him afloat, unless he had to sell all of it, which I don't know the details of, but I I think that he would have a nice little head start.

  • 50:11

    He could live off what he's I mean, couldn't he live off royalties and in in properties right now? I mean, I don't

  • 50:16

    know how even if he I'm thinking if he went from even from a being worth a billion being worth 100 million. I don't

  • 50:22

    know how that I don't know enough to know either. I'm really asking, but it it seems like I know he know I know how

  • 50:27

    much he had at one point in like you said intellectual property of people that seems enough to survive off of. I

  • 50:33

    think there are people who have been going to prison. Look at Mike Tyson for example, right? Mike Tyson was convicted

  • 50:39

    of of came back, won a championship again and became famous again and and he

  • 50:45

    was found guilty and there but there's a big chunk of people who thought he got a raw deal. I think with Puff there's enough people will never beat the Martha

  • 50:51

    Stewart. You know the difference in that though? Yeah. Video. No. And boxing and music. Not even video changes [ __ ]

  • 50:59

    That's true. Seeing it, seeing it right there in real time changes it all. I

  • 51:04

    think everybody's seen it. I think it'll be a blemish on his record for the history of time. I think Puff is going

  • 51:10

    to come out, start doing anti-drug [ __ ] saying that he was high. People have already attest to him always being high.

  • 51:17

    I was out of my right mind. I made some mistakes. Blah blah blah blah blah. He can't never shake the video, but I think

  • 51:23

    financially he can rebound from this because I think [ __ ] is is is fickle. Yeah, I think people are fickle

  • 51:30

    and they really don't care about it as much as they might say in the public framing of things. I think that when it come to yo puff could bring $20 million

  • 51:36

    over here quarterly. I think [ __ ] will forget that this girl got beat up unfortunately. And there's another piece

  • 51:41

    of this that I that that I think which might be off the beat. I might be way off on this, but there's an opportunity

  • 51:47

    for Puff to be a public celebrity spokesman. No, no, no. I'm I'm going somewhere totally different. I mean, one

  • 51:53

    day he could be a spokesman for some something or other, but this whole sexuality thing is a new lane. I mean,

  • 52:01

    there's no secrets about Puff's sexual identity, who he's with, what he likes to do, how he gets down. There's a whole

  • 52:07

    world out there that he could there's a whole unpardon expression untapped world that he could start to tap um around

  • 52:15

    partying around sex around fluidity fluid all that stuff. I mean there's a whole world that would embrace him. He

  • 52:21

    could be the party king in my I mean there's all kinds of lanes for him if it were just about money. Now he that might

  • 52:26

    not be the legacy or the image he wants to have and that might not be how he sees himself but I'm just saying there's a lot of stuff that's come out. I'm

  • 52:32

    about to say for for for what you're saying to happen, he would have to claim that fluidity and we never seen him do

  • 52:38

    that. But he couldn't based on what he would have potentially back. I was afraid that he couldn't. That's true. I'm saying now if he wanted to, he

  • 52:45

    could. I'm not saying he could. That's a hell of a lame. Now he could.

  • 52:50

    I don't know about that, Joe. I'm saying the girl said that. The girl said that

  • 52:56

    he would make her keep the the ejaculate ejaculent on him and come in the room

  • 53:01

    and rub another nigga's come on his nipples. Right. That's what she said. So

  • 53:07

    now there's a whole Those are the souvenirs I was talking about. Yeah. Also doesn't make him gay. Yeah. And

  • 53:12

    don't say anything about Nobody said anything about it doesn't make him buy. Nobody said anything about saying it

  • 53:18

    makes him have kinks that he would have hidden. Aggressive as the next guy. But hold on. No, it doesn't. No, it doesn't

  • 53:24

    though. It doesn't I'm with you. This opposite day. Wait a minute. Telling me that the dude just says, "Hey, come on

  • 53:31

    in. I know you were getting pounded by some guy and he netted on you now."

  • 53:37

    But that doesn't make him gay. What does it make? It doesn't make it. It makes him nasty or freaky in

  • 53:43

    somebody's eyes, but that don't make him gay. That's true. You all are correct and I'm wrong. And I'm not being sarcastic. You're absolutely correct. I

  • 53:49

    guess what I'm saying is I can't I've never met anyone who wanted those things to happen who was not also. How would

  • 53:55

    you know that? How would you know that? And that's that speaks to your whole thing. All of those things they

  • 54:00

    were he was hiding for years now because it's been open to the public. He can now come out embrace that and get embraced.

  • 54:07

    I stand out. You're 100% right. I'm being too narrow-minded on this. You you absolutely. But no, you introduced it. Yeah. I'm saying you're right. I'm

  • 54:13

    saying my instinct is probably homophobic. My my first instinct is Yeah. If a [ __ ] want some dude come

  • 54:20

    rubbed on his nipples, he might be gay. But ding ding ding. Anything is possible. True. And there's a lot of

  • 54:25

    food. But I think that you're right. That is the whole point. But look, dog. Even if you What do you think the freaky people in the educator community, the

  • 54:32

    conscious educator, black community is on? And what type of freaky [ __ ] you think they on? I don't know. I don't go

  • 54:37

    in those, man. Them native wearing or them no deodorant wearing dreadlockers.

  • 54:43

    Hey, watch your [ __ ] M. Flip flip flip. Mark know I don't know

  • 54:48

    anything. I bet you don't [ __ ] busting all

  • 54:54

    over these put you in these broken stocks. Hey, cut that [ __ ]

  • 55:01

    Turn my ass.

  • 55:06

    Cut that [ __ ] D and bring it back to me. Dissertation. Playing with [ __ ] dreads. What? Oh

  • 55:12

    man. Um anyway, we'll stay tuned to this game. We will not be reporting on this

  • 55:18

    uh every pod. Yeah. No, thank God. Because I just can't. But it's a lot.

  • 55:23

    It's a lot. I I I beg to differ because I think what's going to happen every 3

  • 55:29

    to 4 days, get a whopper, something going to come out. Yeah. Somebody's testimony is going to be ner newsworthy

  • 55:36

    to where we going to have to come in and address. We might not go, you know, deep dive, but I think something's going to

  • 55:42

    come out every 3 to 4 days that has to be talked about. I don't think so. I don't see it like that. We'll see. Okay.

  • 55:48

    Or this [ __ ] going to be super

  • 55:53

    short. Or they could think a lot more is uh well, they should. They're actually

  • 55:59

    involved in the trial. They could think a lot more is newsworthy than than we do to report on. Like we didn't say a word

  • 56:06

    about all of the Dawn Richard [ __ ] the Cassie friend, but but things came out. No, but I'm saying but in the next 3

  • 56:12

    days, you hear what I'm saying? In the next 3 days, somebody will probably hit the stand that has some [ __ ] that is

  • 56:18

    reportable. And a lot of it is going to be to talk to all that straight behavior that y'all just talked about. A lot of

  • 56:23

    it may come out in trial transcripts when they start interviewing um escorts and things like that. We're going to

  • 56:28

    hear some wild sexual [ __ ] that's going to turn into for people jokes into fodder into debates. And that might be

  • 56:34

    the [ __ ] we end up talking about. Not like the childish stuff, but the but like all the the funny [ __ ] Yeah. All the ridiculous [ __ ] Yeah.

  • 56:41

    That that is absolutely not gay.

  • 56:46

    Poor chef. Is that short taking a stand? That's all I keep asking. He better not. Well, you know, he got a book coming out

  • 56:52

    now. So he I think he's saving his material for the book called Do You Believe Me Now? Cross out September.

  • 56:59

    That's what his book is called. Dead ass. Believe me now. Mhm. Wait, what's this book called? Do you believe me now?

  • 57:05

    And it's him on the cover. Like it's uh I seen the uh You co-wrote that? You got

  • 57:10

    it in stock? Uh it comes out in September. Did you co-write it? It comes out in September.

  • 57:16

    And your mom I can't believe you doing the forward. I have I have absolutely

  • 57:22

    nothing to do. I did talk to Al and I have he gave me some of the things off the record that I have not published,

  • 57:27

    but I'm excited to see the public find out the things that he told me. Oh, but he promised me an interview and then he got the book deal and said that I I had

  • 57:34

    to hold the information, but it would come out in September. So, it's some it's some it's some stuff in there. And

  • 57:40

    I'll just say this, I don't know if it's true or not, but if half of what I'll be sure has told me is

  • 57:46

    true. Puff is worse than we thought could ever he could be. Oh, I could believe that. And I've heard I thought I

  • 57:52

    heard everything. I I heard Alb Shaw talk. Some of that [ __ ] sounds so left.

  • 57:58

    I'm not saying it's not possible because power is power. Some of that [ __ ] is so left is like some TV [ __ ] right? And

  • 58:04

    that's why he's like, "You believe me now?" Because he feels like the case is being made for for what he said. Yeah.

  • 58:09

    But can I ask you a real stupid question before we do this prize pick? This should be fast. What's up? Humans don't

  • 58:15

    eat hippopotamus, do they? Uh, no. Maybe somewhere. Probably somewhere.

  • 58:21

    Y'all haven't eaten. No. No. No. Would you? Yes. No. I'll try it. No. Well,

  • 58:27

    maybe. Absolutely not. Probably not. Call me close-minded, bro. I'm good. Chicken is just fine.

  • 58:35

    Why? And it stumped me all yesterday. They humans don't eat papa. It's a big beefy

  • 58:40

    animal. I just Who said they don't? It's a big beefy animal like in some

  • 58:46

    parts of Africa. It is consumed and has been for a long time. Yeah. Ain't like we just got hippos running around on the

  • 58:52

    farm. Why we Why we don't eat that over here? We not here. We not eating no [ __ ]

  • 58:59

    hip hop. We're not We know you know about hippos. Yo, we

  • 59:05

    got winners. They're not here. Stop. Hippos are like you got cows down.

  • 59:13

    Hippos are crazy. Hippos Hippos are crazy. You can't keep them like cows.

  • 59:18

    They tear that whole [ __ ] up. You're not just crazying the hippos. Look. It says it says hippos. They do what they want.

  • 59:24

    Look. Hippo meat is not commonly consumed, but those who have tried it described the taste as somewhat similar

  • 59:30

    to beef, though it can be tougher and gameier. The meat is said to have had a

  • 59:35

    rich, fatty flavor, and is often compared to other large game animals. So, [ __ ] do [ __ ] with it. Yeah, but

  • 59:40

    you ain't risking your life for a tough ass snaic. [Music]

  • 59:45

    It's like deer tough. They don't play hippos. Hippos don't play those. Nippos don't [ __ ] around. Strongest bite and

  • 59:51

    all that other dumb [ __ ] Who the [ __ ] [ __ ] Yeah. No one wants to do it. Yo, let me get that cow right there, my [ __ ]

  • 59:58

    Talk about Yo, your brain. Yo, would you try it? Hippo. Yeah. No, but I'm going to

  • 1:00:06

    try human. All right. All right. Time for my favorite part. Time for my favorite favorite part of the show, dog.

  • 1:00:12

    I love this part. I need friends that don't get so taken back by just my

  • 1:00:17

    normal thoughts. Like, what was wrong with what I just said? You want to eat? You want to be a cannibal? I think

  • 1:00:22

    the normal thought was the hippo party saying no no no cannibis by him saying I want to eat humans. No hippo's too far

  • 1:00:29

    for me. I want to try human. That was crazy to me. Why saying you want to try

  • 1:00:34

    human? Not if I was in you know some a diet situation situation and I was stuck to I would do it. You didn't say that.

  • 1:00:40

    You said it like I wish it was a restaurant across the street where I could walk in and say let me get Yeah, let me get that [ __ ]

  • 1:00:46

    arm. You can't do that. Yo, let me get yo let me get a quarter pound. What the

  • 1:00:52

    [ __ ] you talking about, bro? You don't think that's off a little bit? Not at all. What part of the human you are? But

  • 1:00:59

    long ago, I've accepted that that you that you think different. Yeah. Do you see individual humans and be like, "Yo,

  • 1:01:04

    they might taste I wonder what Sharon tastes like." So now now what kind of human PhD brother is just thinks I'm

  • 1:01:10

    crazy too now? No, I'm just what I'm telling you. How you want your human to look? They they look how he's trying to

  • 1:01:15

    be. Look how I'm asking you. You want one that was in the park running with the tough muscles or you want a fat [ __ ] with a [ __ ] a little more

  • 1:01:22

    lean. I think that somewhere in the world human meat is being sold on the

  • 1:01:27

    dark web and I think that people that have tried human meat. Actually, I've seen people that have tried human meat

  • 1:01:33

    speak about it and they say it's to die for. No pun intended. Really, they say that it is some of the best meat you

  • 1:01:41

    could try. I wouldn't know that because I'm not killing anyone and I'm not on the dark web. But if one of y'all happen

  • 1:01:48

    to pass out or have some untimely thing happened

  • 1:01:54

    to y'all, I am going to fry a little slice of a

  • 1:02:00

    little slice of you. I got to see. So yeah. Okay.

  • 1:02:07

    That's all. See them do them [ __ ] you up, son. So humans eating bats and all

  • 1:02:12

    that other [ __ ] don't gross you out, but human to human gross out. Don't none of that [ __ ] gross me out.

  • 1:02:19

    Human to human is Yeah, that's where it's a little I'm cool. Eating your own is a little different. Oh, please put

  • 1:02:24

    some salt and pepper right on one of you [ __ ] Let me get some tobacco, [ __ ]

  • 1:02:30

    I'll put some old B right on one of you. [ __ ] you talking about? Um, all right.

  • 1:02:36

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  • 1:04:14

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  • 1:05:16

    Prize Pix you were kind of joking about wanting to eat people and maybe eating somebody here. If you had to eat

  • 1:05:22

    somebody on the cast, who would you choose and why?

  • 1:05:29

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  • 1:05:34

    fat [ __ ] Parks is tall. That couch is fat. He's

  • 1:05:39

    fat. I won't say male. I've dealt with that [ __ ] before. Nope. Ain't getting me there. How about

  • 1:05:46

    you? Who would you eat on the cast?

  • 1:05:53

    Huh? I was Hey, I was thinking be easy. What? I

  • 1:05:58

    I was I was thinking uh out of the male the male cast. Yeah. The m the only one

  • 1:06:04

    here. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I would I I wouldn't eat Mel because she's too uh

  • 1:06:10

    lean and healthy. You want you you want you you want you want fat meat. I think it be you flip.

  • 1:06:17

    You looking [ __ ] up when you go home. You punch right here. [ __ ] M they going to help you

  • 1:06:23

    right you [ __ ] up and we know we know you going to learn.

  • 1:06:32

    Got a welcome man at home. Just Hey, make sure your feet is nice and clean. Spend some time on that welcome man

  • 1:06:38

    before you walk in. So you eat me. And don't let your keys jiggle jiggle at the door. Don't let you got to go side. You

  • 1:06:43

    got a quick insert. Quick insert turn. You know what I mean? It's a fact. Same reason I wouldn't eat parks. He's too

  • 1:06:49

    healthy. Look at him. He leaning there. Yeah. They flip flip. Oh, he flip. Got

  • 1:06:54

    it. Got it. Got it. Yeah. Um, can we talk about something that's not so sad?

  • 1:06:59

    I know we got the boat uh the boat New Orleans [ __ ] coming up later. Everything is sad. Only the New Orleans

  • 1:07:05

    [ __ ] is This is funny now. That's pretty funny. Now, now that's got them [ __ ] went live.

  • 1:07:10

    Wait, tell me. Tell me. I don't know. The [ __ ] The New Orleans [ __ ] escaped, right? How many How many of

  • 1:07:15

    them escaped? 11. 11. 11 of them escaped from a New Orleans prison. Four. They captured Yeah. one. They captured four.

  • 1:07:22

    And now the internet, since we stupid, the internet uh is placing bets on who

  • 1:07:27

    will be the last man standing. One of them [ __ ] went live and said, "I'm free and got confident right after."

  • 1:07:34

    Shut up. Dead ass. You're not lying. You're lying. Yo yo, yo, look [ __ ] We

  • 1:07:40

    we free. Get down, Rashid. You lying. They wild, huh? They caught

  • 1:07:46

    the other [ __ ] sleep on the bus. On the bus stop. Yeah. Yeah, I heard about that. Some of these [ __ ] is breaking out. He should have went back. Yeah, he

  • 1:07:53

    should have went back. He ain't had no way to go. That's why you shouldn't have left. Indeed. I mean, and this was a

  • 1:07:58

    jail, not a prison, right? So, some of these these people had even gotten convicted yet. I don't know. Or or it might have been short or or they had a

  • 1:08:05

    year or two. I'm just I hope you didn't break out of jail. If I'm if I'm racially profiling as I'm looking at the pick, they're guilty.

  • 1:08:12

    Come on. That's not nice. What I said if I'm racially All right. I'm just saying if you in jail, it either mean it either

  • 1:08:17

    mean you didn't get convicted or you got a real shot. Them [ __ ] wrote on the wall too easy.

  • 1:08:22

    Bust a little sink out. That's kind of funny. Too easy. I knew they did it cuz in the escape video they didn't run the

  • 1:08:28

    fastest to get away. Nah, they hit him with a light little jump server. But you

  • 1:08:34

    can't run. That's too obvious though. But and the highway is there. But they walked right across. I think they don't

  • 1:08:40

    have that much manpower at that. Whatever that wherever that was, you know what I mean? But [ __ ] is going live. They sleeping on benches. They

  • 1:08:46

    going shopping. I'm wondering where they get their clothes from. Like are they stopping places and [ __ ] like that? Like they some [ __ ] one of them [ __ ] they

  • 1:08:52

    caught was he had that [ __ ] on. I said, "Oh [ __ ] they going shopping out there. New Orleans get dressed like that." It

  • 1:08:59

    was like this. Yeah. They catching them [ __ ] Yo, now how did all of them escape? Do we know? Through a hole.

  • 1:09:04

    They busted out a toilet or something sink or something sink and they wrote too easy on the wall. Mhm.

  • 1:09:10

    Now, it wasn't no barbwire gate or nothing outside. Oh, I don't know about that. We just seen the picture of the

  • 1:09:15

    inside. Yeah, we just saw the whole This to me is not the flyest uh jailbreak

  • 1:09:21

    that I've ever seen. I don't even know if it's in the top three. Nah, number one for me is still the dude on the

  • 1:09:29

    Netflix doc. We lived through it so we didn't need that Netflix dog. But that uh was in the relationship with the

  • 1:09:34

    older white security. Yeah. Yeah. But that wouldn't be number one. But that's number one. She walked him out of the

  • 1:09:41

    back door side door. I saw that and got in a cop car and took him. That's fly.

  • 1:09:46

    How else do you do it? How do you do it? Fly than that. Oh, I see what you now. Rest in peace to the lady cuz she and he

  • 1:09:53

    got she self transition. Yeah. Yeah. And in that

  • 1:09:58

    it's that game. I can't say it. But but what you can't say? I can't I can't I'll say it. No, cuz this is a family show.

  • 1:10:06

    It's not. Yo, stop changing the the [ __ ] title of the show each time. Music show. Family show, please. Enough.

  • 1:10:12

    You You cause config like y'all [ __ ] to catch on. A [ __ ] like me, it confuses me. It's a family show. It's not a family show. It's only a music

  • 1:10:19

    show when Ice and Parks getting they bag. So right now it's a family show right now. It's a family show right now. Okay. So we can't say not homie. We

  • 1:10:25

    talking about nutty nipples. Yeah, exactly. Exactly, Mark. And eating humans. Yeah, we can't say how homie got

  • 1:10:31

    it off. The tall white [ __ ] What he did here? He caught a lick. He caught her. He had her open. What's that mouth

  • 1:10:39

    gang? He had her open. That [ __ ] you be doing. You would have been out here. That lady haven't felt like that in

  • 1:10:45

    years. That rest in peace to her. I'm not trying to make fun, but the way he got out, she walked that [ __ ] right on out. And she retired.

  • 1:10:52

    Oh yeah. That's why it's the flyest, too. She was a month away from retirement. Mhm. They got to act. She

  • 1:10:58

    had served her. Anyway, why why do people I pay a lot of

  • 1:11:05

    attention to prison breaks. Mhm. Why do people never go nowhere reasonable? Like half the time when you get caught, you

  • 1:11:10

    get caught going back to your own hood. Ain't got no money. Where you going to go? All right. You only know what you ain't got no phone. If I break out of

  • 1:11:16

    jail, I'm at least try. You're not locking me up in my own two blocks from my house. So where you going? Where you going though? far like how play it out.

  • 1:11:24

    You don't have no money. You don't have no phone. You're w play it out. Okay. And they got your picture everywhere.

  • 1:11:29

    Mhm. First of all, they usually don't. I mean, this is I mean, usually you got you got like a solid 12 to 24. I'll give

  • 1:11:34

    you a perfect example at at CFC in Philly, right? As my brother was before he got sentenced. Two guys broke out by last

  • 1:11:42

    year. They got out. No one knew they were missing for like two days. They did

  • 1:11:47

    a They did the guard count. They had the count wrong. Guards still didn't pay attention. Two days later, you said 48

  • 1:11:52

    hours to go anywhere they wanted with not nothing on the news. Dude went from

  • 1:11:57

    northeast Philly to West Philly and he was walking around. At least this dude was wearing a hijab. He dressed

  • 1:12:04

    up. He was because he went to quote go find his ops

  • 1:12:11

    dog. What's up? I grew up in a jail time. That [ __ ] deserve to be called.

  • 1:12:17

    That [ __ ] deserve to be. You [ __ ] I was so [ __ ] mad. I'd be embarrassed to go back to the jail. But let me ask

  • 1:12:23

    you, where you going to get money from? That's one. Did he catch the ops? No, he caught the cops.

  • 1:12:30

    Cops go. Yo, some of these prisons, I grew up in a jail town and there was an escape back

  • 1:12:36

    in the early 2000s. It was national news and all that, but there it's like the

  • 1:12:41

    woods out there. Like I know like right where the prison is at. Like once you get out of there, you're not just

  • 1:12:47

    hopping on a [ __ ] train or some [ __ ] that don't exist there. I see getting caught el. But in New Orleans or in in

  • 1:12:54

    Northeast Philly, once you get on the bus or the train that you on, just keep going past your normal stop. Whatever stop you get off of, keep do at least do

  • 1:13:01

    how you get on the bus. And when you get when you get off at the last stop where you go, I don't look, it's a great point

  • 1:13:08

    you're making. Maybe getting caught is inevitable, but I would feel embarrassed getting locked up in my house. Go to the

  • 1:13:14

    Home Depot. I'd be in Delaware at least and take some wood, put it on people cars and sheetrock and [ __ ] Make a couple dollars. That's the kind of [ __ ]

  • 1:13:20

    I would do. Do something. I escaped from jail. I'm going to get some [ __ ]

  • 1:13:26

    That's what most of them do. Going to my girl house. I'm going to beat that thing. You going to your girl house?

  • 1:13:31

    This won't get no coochie. They might catch me there. How long you

  • 1:13:37

    think it take me? How long they going to take longer? Yo, look for me. Post it up at your mother house, your girl house, and all

  • 1:13:43

    of that [ __ ] before you even get That's what I'm saying, dog. Yeah. Catch me somewhere. Well, I don't do crime to

  • 1:13:49

    after I avoid these, [ __ ] I done jerked off all them years I was locked up. I'm going

  • 1:13:55

    How many years you locked up? I hope they catch me in Hawaii so he same thing. I was like, [ __ ] was locked up.

  • 1:14:03

    No, I'm good. Hopefully. You'll be in Hawaii lit. You going get caugh. You probably making the hotel with some

  • 1:14:10

    Hawaii. You making the news out there. Hotel with some blonde dreads and a tan. Hawaii ain't the best place to go to, by

  • 1:14:15

    the way. It's out of the way. Yo, you want to go to a different country, I think. Yeah, that's true, too. If I'm going to leave if I'm going to fly 8

  • 1:14:21

    hours over water, I'm I'm going to another country. It's going to be It's going to be hard to catch. Yes. Talking about what? Y'all

  • 1:14:30

    ain't flying nowhere. That's what I'm saying. Hawaii probably ain't going to happen. Talking about this goddamn movie. Are you

  • 1:14:36

    perfect? Chi, look at Ali. Shout out to the brother Chi when when he was on the run. He went from New York to Atlanta

  • 1:14:44

    and he was working in he was working in like a market. He had a whole other life. He got a new ID, new social

  • 1:14:50

    security card, new driver's license. He got a whole new world. That's the [ __ ] I would be. TK went on a run from the

  • 1:14:56

    little [ __ ] TK went on a run from Dallas and was found in Elizabeth, New Jersey in the basement. I respect that.

  • 1:15:02

    I And made a a video a hit. Why want to run? That's all I'm saying. This is what you all respect. No, I respect the run.

  • 1:15:08

    I respect the effort. I respect the effort in the run. I respect the effort. You [ __ ] is hood. Respect the effort. You guys think is weird. Oh, no. No.

  • 1:15:16

    They they they I don't know their crimes. I'm just saying. No, no, no. Don't worry. Don't worry about it. They they got they got

  • 1:15:22

    it. Yo. Hey Mark. Mark. Sometimes they get it wrong. This one they got

  • 1:15:28

    right. They had the nail on the head with that one.

  • 1:15:34

    Oh [ __ ] But did y'all hear Johnny Gil say that Stevie wanted to beat him in a game of air hockey?

  • 1:15:40

    He said he beat him. Ralph Tresvan keeps sweating like he beat a few of them in air hockey. I told him never to tell

  • 1:15:47

    anybody. Speak nothing of this. I believe it. That's a [ __ ] Yo, y'all

  • 1:15:52

    ain't going to keep lying to me. Just for the people that still believe Stevie Wonder is blind. Yeah, Stevie Wonder is

  • 1:15:57

    is definitely blind. He's gifted. But blind don't have to mean you can't see legally blind. I learned that too. Blind

  • 1:16:03

    don't mean you don't see nothing. Like Absol is blind, but he can see. Like legally blind.

  • 1:16:10

    Legally blind. Okay. Got you. I think that's what Stevie got. No, that [ __ ] can't see.

  • 1:16:16

    That [ __ ] ain't going to fool me. He's a genius. Y'all try to cuz if he can see, then he's just a hitmaker, right? If he he blind, he is a genius. I I I

  • 1:16:23

    like what? Wait, I'm saying that [ __ ] playing the

  • 1:16:29

    [ __ ] drums. He just got them slaps. Well, he he blind. I think I'm a genius. Yo, that's part of the genius. The [ __ ]

  • 1:16:36

    was eight playing the drums and the keyboard singing. He a lot of kids in church do that [ __ ] Not the blind ones.

  • 1:16:41

    Once a [ __ ] become blind is a different level. That's all I'm saying. Stevie Stevie's that [ __ ] They didn't write. That's part of the master blaster and

  • 1:16:47

    all that other [ __ ] What are you talking about? Going with this. Oh my gracious. Oh [ __ ] harmonica.

  • 1:19:38

    [Music] listen. Yo, Eastern Conference

  • 1:19:45

    Finals, long, long, long 25 years. If you're a Nick fan under 25, you've never

  • 1:19:52

    seen anything like this. If you're a Nick fan that was just born

  • 1:19:59

    ish, find something safe to watch. Don't watch me. I don't need [ __ ] with

  • 1:20:06

    when I'm in my bag. I don't need [ __ ] with hazel eyes looking at me at all, [ __ ] Yeah. I mean, uh, if you're a

  • 1:20:12

    Nick fan, 25 and under, you've never seen anything like this. If you a Nick fan from back in the day, a little

  • 1:20:19

    older, then this was a long time in the making.

  • 1:20:24

    uh took care of the Pistons. Hopefully Jared Jack is having fun with his tilapia.

  • 1:20:30

    I hope he's doing something a little better. Hope he's finding something constructive to do with his time him. Cade Cunningham. Sure glad I don't have

  • 1:20:37

    to hear that name again. Cade Cunningham. What? Jared said beef stew.

  • 1:20:42

    Beef stew. Cute nickname. Uh we do hope that Jason Tatum is recovering. We do.

  • 1:20:48

    That's our man. Yes. But as far as the rest of them [ __ ] pack it up. Pack him up. Pack him up. Gone. Shout out to

  • 1:20:57

    the wild white boy Nick fans that was climbing the billboards. Climbing the buildings. I saw you slip.

  • 1:21:03

    Any of y'all ever want to know why Joe Button leaves early? Just look at Nick fans outside of Madison Square Garden.

  • 1:21:11

    [ __ ] was outside. He beat the defending champions. Got

  • 1:21:18

    them out. Huh? We didn't beat uh we didn't beat a Nuggets team that just fired their head coach three games

  • 1:21:23

    before the season started. We didn't we didn't do that. No, we didn't take advantage of a Cavalier team that wasn't

  • 1:21:30

    full script. We didn't do that. Nope. Just took care of the defending champions when nobody said it could be

  • 1:21:36

    done. All the experts had the Celtics winning. Turns out they were wrong. I like to

  • 1:21:44

    wait till the game is over to get in my bag. I'm not like Mark. Mark come in and do all of this hooting nanny, all of

  • 1:21:50

    this yelling when it's still one game to be played. And what do you know? That was the biggest and best Nick victory

  • 1:21:56

    probably in a lot of our lifetimes. Smack them by 40. I download the app on my phone to watch

  • 1:22:02

    the game from the bar. And why not? But then why not? After the second quarter, I was like, I actually don't have to

  • 1:22:07

    watch this at all. Didn't matter. We was up 38. Still, I ain't want to see no four nothing run from the Celtics. I

  • 1:22:14

    ain't want to see that. Anytime a [ __ ] shot a little three in a free throw, the Nick fan and I said, "Cunning back." Nick fans a had a

  • 1:22:23

    lot of good times in the last 30 years. We got Patrick Ewing blowing layups. We

  • 1:22:29

    got Reggie Miller scoring nine points in 8 seconds. We got Charles Smith missing

  • 1:22:35

    every [ __ ] layup he could under the rim. We got John Starks going two for 19

  • 1:22:41

    with a healthy Huba Davis and Ronaldo uh uh Blackman on the [ __ ] bench. Like

  • 1:22:47

    what are we talking about here? If you in New York, New

  • 1:22:52

    Jersey, Connecticut, if you anywhere to get Hot 97, hey, some parts of

  • 1:23:00

    Philly, then we should be rejoicing right now. It's a good time to be in New York. Facts. I want to shout out Jaylen

  • 1:23:06

    Brunson. The best player left in the playoffs. I said it. I said I said what I said. Yeah. I said in the playoffs.

  • 1:23:13

    Maybe not the best player. Is SJ out? No. [ __ ] Jaylen Brunson has been

  • 1:23:18

    and is the best player remaining in the playoffs. You think he been in SGA? In the playoffs. I I'm saying what I'm

  • 1:23:24

    trying to say. In the playoffs. Yes. Is and has been. Is and has been. Hopefully

  • 1:23:30

    we get to see him. Hopefully they make it. I have the Wolves beating them. I know I'm the only one here that has them

  • 1:23:35

    better, too. I like the Wolves in this. Do you? Yeah, I do. I like the Wolves, but I It's just I want to see Ant-Man

  • 1:23:41

    go. I want to see him win one. I got the Wolves. I got If the If the Thunder beat the Wolves, it'll be in seven. I just

  • 1:23:46

    like how the Wolves match up with them. I love what Julius Randall is doing. I love I love that all remaining teams in

  • 1:23:52

    the uh conference finals haven't won one have a Nick on their team that helped

  • 1:23:58

    them get there. Julius Randall. Uh Obby Topping on the

  • 1:24:05

    Pacers. Ah. Huh. Defense. Uh Denzo over

  • 1:24:10

    there. Over there. Hardenstein. Hardenstein on the Thunder. I love that

  • 1:24:16

    former Knicks have helped these teams get to where they need to go. [ __ ] nightmare. And I'm so glad that we will

  • 1:24:22

    never see this iteration of the Celtics ever again. Ever again. We took care of the

  • 1:24:28

    Celtics for y'all for this this playoff and most of next season. And some people

  • 1:24:35

    got the nerve to breathe New York air and have an attitude with that. Oh, I

  • 1:24:40

    do. Go Pacers. They going to go. I root for the Pacers. Don't worry. Go fishing. They going to

  • 1:24:46

    go. They next and he not having a better They next. I root for the fantastic. Tibido is sitting with Adam Silva right

  • 1:24:53

    now showing him uh a map of

  • 1:24:59

    Indianapolis and a map of New York City. Y'all heard Eric Adams, man. Hey, some

  • 1:25:05

    of them cities. I mean, Kansas or whatever. New York just got a

  • 1:25:11

    different The NBA want New York to win. Exactly. For sure. Fixes it. I mean, if

  • 1:25:17

    they if we're saying that, then what happened in the last 30 years? No. Amazing. Just for this year, the West

  • 1:25:22

    only Yeah, the West is only presenting a small market team. You only get the Indiana Oklahoma would be a nightmare

  • 1:25:28

    for the NBA for the NBA. Yes. Minnesota Indiana is horrible for the league. New

  • 1:25:33

    York Knicks, Ben Steeler. You going the second row,

  • 1:25:40

    but all them [ __ ] in the front. When you get close to the finals, your seats move back cuz Watch your [ __ ] mouth,

  • 1:25:46

    [ __ ] Watch your mouth. Well, y'all was in the first row for a nonplayoff team, right? Watch your mouth. Y'all was in

  • 1:25:52

    the first row of a draft lottery team. I think those tickets are real cheap. Yeah. $60, [ __ ] 50 $53. $53.99. You

  • 1:26:01

    get them tickets on GrubHub. The [ __ ] you talking about?

  • 1:26:08

    No. The highest tickets. That [ __ ] is crazy right now. That [ __ ] is I'm going to get more. Please. Oh, thank God. When

  • 1:26:14

    are you? I'm going tomorrow. Tonight. Tonight. Tonight. There you go, John. Oh, perfect. Game warnings tonight. I'll

  • 1:26:20

    be in the building. That'll be fine. I'll call my man Lloyd Pierce is a head assistant in the uh on the Pacers. He'll

  • 1:26:26

    uh they'll breathe easy know you going to be there. Yeah, right. I text JJ, too. James Johnson. Have you won Have you been to win a win this play? Excuse

  • 1:26:33

    me. Have I been to a win this playoffs? Uh I don't remember now. I don't

  • 1:26:40

    remember. It's a no. What my memory? I don't know. Cory said no. I'm I'm I'm going by

  • 1:26:45

    uh you lost it against Detroit and you didn't see any wins against Boston cuz

  • 1:26:50

    you gave away the last seats, right? So gave to my dad. My dad knew I seen Jackie. They got all the TV time in that

  • 1:26:57

    market. I seen Jack. I couldn't have been more excited for them, right, to be seated behind Bad Bunny. I know that my

  • 1:27:04

    uh uh dad's wife absolutely loves Bad Bunny. So that was amazing. I throw the

  • 1:27:10

    parks. You got to set them. You got to send them again. Joe Button CJ ain't bad, man. So positive. Joe Button CJ,

  • 1:27:17

    man. Send Joe Button senior out there. You mean um Yeah, man. Go Knicks. Go Knicks. Go Knicks. Go Knicks. Go Knicks.

  • 1:27:23

    That's it, man. I ain't going I ain't going to do too much right now. Where were you when you watched the game? You was home. Yeah, I was home. You were crazy. I was home. Oh, you already knew

  • 1:27:30

    it was you. Yeah. Yeah. Nick fans deserved a stressfree watch, right? like

  • 1:27:36

    being up 40, every game has been decided by three, two points. [ __ ] wasn't

  • 1:27:42

    nickish cuz y'all y'all be scratching and clawing for all y'all wins. Like y'all gritty and y'all thug it out. It's

  • 1:27:48

    me. Oh, I take the 90 point win. I I kept saying that if you watch the Knicks this year that you know that they can

  • 1:27:55

    score 140. Like they can do that. They just have haven't done it. So good good

  • 1:28:00

    to see that version of them pop up. Uh this Pacers team is deep. Uh, I have a healthy respect for them and I'm an old

  • 1:28:06

    school Nick fan. So, that means that I'm fully aware of the damage that the Pacers do. The Davis brothers, pacer

  • 1:28:13

    trouble. We Yeah, we've seen the Pacers the last four times we've made it to the Eastern Conference final dating back to

  • 1:28:19

    94 94 95 I want to say. So, and even in more recent years that that the Hibbert

  • 1:28:25

    mellow block in 2013. Yeah. in game five last year when we watched every Nick

  • 1:28:32

    deteriorate against the Pacers and still took him to seven. Uh I absolutely love Rick Carlau. So this should be a good

  • 1:28:38

    series. I might go to I might go to Indiana for one of those games. That's

  • 1:28:44

    not bad. Yeah, I might go out there for one of them games. [ __ ] with Teague and Z and them [ __ ] That might be a good

  • 1:28:50

    idea. And those tickets should be $11. They cheap as hell. They should be about They should be about $2850. $14

  • 1:28:58

    with tax with a free t-shirt. You going out there wearing Nick gear, huh? No, you wouldn't. You wouldn't do

  • 1:29:03

    that. No, I don't understand fans would do that. I do that. I was in Boston one time. Uh, might have been 200. When was

  • 1:29:11

    when was the World Series? 02, 03, somewhere back then. And I had a Yankee hat on. I didn't know. Me neither. And

  • 1:29:18

    it wasn't it wasn't nice. I experienced the same thing. It wasn't fun at all. So, I vow to never do that again.

  • 1:29:24

    Homeboy, they had that Pacer jersey on that ran through the garden. I don't I don't get the thinking that was crazy. I don't get you you asking people to play

  • 1:29:30

    with what you were certain like you asking sport fans to be logical and healthy and peaceful and that at their

  • 1:29:35

    most hype. Yeah, I don't shrunk and and I thought they took it easy on them. They did. They did. They did. They just

  • 1:29:42

    dumped the trash. Hit him with a pizza slice or two. Yeah, that's it. Some [ __ ] Um go Knicks.

  • 1:29:49

    Speaking of Indianapolis, uh yes, I know Mark was pretty hot about the uh Caitlyn Clark foul. I was. And apparently I hate

  • 1:29:55

    women according to my social media platform. Black women in particular. Have they ever heard you?

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    [ __ ] the there is nothing more irrational than people embroiled in the

  • 1:30:07

    Caitlyn Clark Angel Reese feud debate. Whatever they It's really the heart of the race wars of the last year and a

  • 1:30:15

    half. Dead ass. Like it it it's it's ridiculous. So, for people that don't know, they it was opening night, opening

  • 1:30:20

    game, marquee game, WNBA, and of course, their teams are playing. Chicago was

  • 1:30:25

    playing Indiana, and Caitlyn took a foul on Angel Reese.

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    Um, earlier in the play, Angel had shoved one of Caitlyn's teammates. I think that's important to add, too.

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    Caitlyn gets Caitlyn fouls her, but she doesn't just foul her. She does push her. Now, I think Angel put extra sauce

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    on. Yeah, I thought she put she hit the Which again you supposed to do? That's not a knock on injuries. You're supposed to I mean you you embellish it to make

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    sure you get the foul. Especially when you're big getting pushed by a little person and they did that. Angel jumped up like she like she wanted smoke and

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    she was like what the [ __ ] is wrong with you? You you know you're effing crazy. You you [ __ ] crazy is what she said. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. And so they

  • 1:31:01

    had this whole exchange and all I said was that Angel Reese overreacted to me. She overreacted to the foul given the

  • 1:31:09

    context. Okay. And I got I got so many texts and messages about how I don't

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    stand up for black women that you know this is an example of of why black women can't be protected. But did you stand up

  • 1:31:20

    for black women in this instance? Um I think that's a different question. But I

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    would say who side were you on? Uh Kaitlin Clark side.

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    You know I say I was on Caitlin side. I just thought Andre overreacted. I thought Kaitlin took a bad foul. I thought I thought So you think the black

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    girl overreacted? Abs. Absolutely. Okay. Absolutely. Absolutely. You hear out there? Got him. Run your game.

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    Hear that, Angela Ry? But but but to me it's just to me it's just basketball.

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    Like to me that's the point is that I was trying to see if I could find it that some of the tweets but it was a uh I screenshotted it but it was it was a

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    um to me it was just a basketball player but it turns into this whole race war thing where it's like if you choose one

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    person or the other then it means that you don't either don't stand up for black people or your [ __ ] your uncle is

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    these extreme positions too extreme over [ __ ] basketball game and and the truth is Caitlyn Clark does they don't

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    like each other and they do foul each other hard she she clos line Caitlyn last year you know what I mean Caitlyn plays Karen trying to act like I don't

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    know. I just took a f I mean they both do [ __ ] but to me it's just basketball and I wish it could just be basketball. That's it. What's your

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    response? If you've ever seen Angel Reese foul Caitlyn Clark, then this should be a

  • 1:32:33

    non-issue. Angel Reese has attempted to close line and take Caitlyn Clark's head

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    off of her shoulders. Yeah. At least 10 times. One.

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    Two. I mean, AJ Reese is a little a little What? What' you think? I might be

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    back in the game. Come on. Say it. Say it. Say it. I might be back in the game

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    here. A little homie. What you trying to say? Um,

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    she overreacts. She overreacts to things at times. Like

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    Mark said, the foul with she just knocked her knock Caitlyn's teammate on the floor and Caitlyn pointed and said,

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    "Hey, ref, we're not we're not looking at that." At that point, she goes to push her. She's defending her teammate.

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    It's a basketball play. I'm always on the side of the black girl and I don't

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    think that it needs to be a race war. Just not when it comes to Kaitlin. Okay. See, you think

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    have we accepted it? We'll take Caitlin Clark

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    out of all y'all. Have we accepted it though? Have we accepted it? Everybody's accepted it except for

  • 1:33:43

    Angelice. Except what? that Caitlyn Clark is a great white hope that that Caitlyn Clark is going to

  • 1:33:51

    be the reason that everybody here gets paid. Yes, that's it. That I can agree

  • 1:33:56

    with and and it will and I don't think it'll be her alone, but for the time

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    being, it's large part her. I think Guju will

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    come and have something to say about that. Uh what's the girl that went number one this year? Paige. Paige.

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    Paige. I like there's somebody else coming out next year that I like. Uh and this is as a casual casual fan. Guju.

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    No, outside of Juju. The other girls somebody else coming out. From Notre Dame. The two maybe the two girls from Notre Dame might come out. That's what

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    I'm saying. I don't think for tough. So I think that the W the W will be in a great place is in a great place and will

  • 1:34:31

    continue to be in a great place. Uh but Angel is just extra. She is extra. Do you feel like how they both handled the

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    off season speaks volumes? Like how Angel Reese was outside podcast. See that's the part I don't like. I feel

  • 1:34:42

    like, hold on. I feel like the press conference, the press conferences speak volumes. And I won't lie, that's my

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    favorite part of this whole curuffle. They panned to Caitlyn Clark

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    and the fever. Big nice long table that they don't sell at Lowe's. Not one of them

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    little folding tables. Lot of elbow space. Shuterie. It was beer. I think I saw a

  • 1:35:10

    Boost Mobile sign in the back. It was sponsored. Yo, the reporters gave Caitlyn all the time to say what you

  • 1:35:17

    needed to say. Say, "Hey, man, it's a basketball play. You're overreacting." Yada yada yada. They was like, "All right, cool." And then she got up cuz

  • 1:35:24

    she had she was busy. She had things to do. They didn't bother her. She went on about her business. Then they pan to uh

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    whatever team this girl was. Chicago. Stop.

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    Stop. I don't wasn't looking for the team. They pay they paying to Chicago. The headaches. What was their name? Sky

  • 1:35:44

    Chicago Sky. They paying to the headaches. Stop. Wait. The camera was blurry. The camera was

  • 1:35:52

    fuzzy and they put Angel Reese in a in a

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    locker with the step and repeat. That room was the size of a bathroom. I was like, "Yo, y'all have

  • 1:36:05

    lost this battle. Hey, we shouldn't even be talking about nothing that happened on the court. If this how your press conference look in comparison to this,

  • 1:36:13

    it looked like it like $17 went into that press conference. Y'all the ones that should be wiping Caitlyn Clark

  • 1:36:20

    blood off and making sure she's okay. She had 20 10 and 10. You [ __ ]

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    that don't even that don't even have a room to hold a press conference in. Y'all the ones that should be [ __ ]

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    Y'all should be [ __ ] maybe tutoring Caitlyn Caitlyn Clark's cousins on how to play the younger cousins. Y'all

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    should be doing something extra. So stop, man. I'm dead ass though. This

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    is where the other side of the argument I do understand gets frustrated and cuz I'm not on either side. I I just try to

  • 1:36:49

    You just watch basketball and anybody seen Angel Reese shoot 24 shots, miss 27

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    shots, and just keeps jumping up, hitting her head on the Look, I [ __ ] myself up. Trying to be

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    funny. Somebody, anybody watching the TV should be wanting to push. All right, go

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    ahead. This is what I say. Angel angel, I think part of the problem is they want us to be magic bird, right? Yeah, but

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    magic it is. No, but it is magic and a bird.

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    Ow, man. What's wrong with you [ __ ] Yo, it is magic. You can't say that. It is magic versus bird. Oh [ __ ] Look at

  • 1:37:29

    this. Where y'all going? in the two. Look, I meant like the game. Like

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    Mark, this was your segment. You want to eat a donut?

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    This [ __ ] is Curry verse bird. Jordan verse bird. Come on.

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    Yo, can y'all come work please, man? Cuz this is Mark segment. I ain't even supposed to be talking right now. Shout

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    out to the Chicago uh wind What was they name? Sky. Sky.

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    Magic versus dirt. That was crazy. That was That was completely out of pocket,

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    man. So, Mark, they're attacking you right now cuz you chose Yeah, but I ain't worried about that part. This is what I'll say. It's supposed to be a

  • 1:38:16

    rivalry. I think the problem is one, I mean, Caitlin Clark is a much better basketball player than Yeah. They're not

  • 1:38:21

    on the same tier. It's not Magic Bird. It's just not. Do you Okay. I mean, just in terms of skill sets, Caitlyn is

  • 1:38:28

    Caitlyn is the is at worst the second best player on her team and probably will be for the next 10 years, you know,

  • 1:38:34

    along with, you know, it's Caitlyn and Aaliyah and Boston, you know, and those two are I mean, that's a hell of a

  • 1:38:40

    one-two punch and they just and they build a whole team around him. So, it's it's just two, it's just apples and

  • 1:38:45

    oranges to me. I think we should be able to allow Angela to be great and let Caitlin Clark be

  • 1:38:51

    great without it being a rivalry in that way. It's not a rivalry in any way. No,

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    I know black people don't want you to say that. It's not a rivalry. Do you think Caitlyn gets frustrated by they

  • 1:39:02

    making the comparisons? I don't think is frustrated. She has to share a court

  • 1:39:07

    with it. It is a rivalry. It's a rivalry, but they're not in the same way that Draymond Green

  • 1:39:13

    might wait. What's the rivalry? Come on. Them two have been going at each other.

  • 1:39:18

    It was a college rivalry. It was a legit college rivalry. It was a legitimate college rivalry and once they

  • 1:39:24

    got to the league that rivalry it would be like saying Draymond and I it's not perfect example but send Draymond Lebron have rivalry they do right what they did

  • 1:39:30

    right when when when Cleveland was playing Golden State but they're not same I get it Angel's not the top of the

  • 1:39:35

    food chain on a championship team I don't believe in the WNBA I don't see that happening I think she still have more work to do is there room for her to

  • 1:39:41

    get better I think yeah I think she's a very good basketball player she has a hell of a motor park she has a great motor she has a great she has a great

  • 1:39:48

    motor you talking about mouth no no great great great energy great spirit She plays hard. Um, she's she's a

  • 1:39:54

    freakishly good clean up. Hey, hey, pan pen him. Clean it up. She's a freakishly good rebounder. Got good touch. She she

  • 1:40:00

    does not touch. I'm talking about rebounding touch, not scoring touch near the basket. That's her weakness. But you're just saying the [ __ ] in the same

  • 1:40:05

    category, but try to separate it to make it seem like Well, no. What I'm saying is it's not just that she gets 17 rebounds is cuz although she has I think

  • 1:40:11

    17 the other night, it's that she's probably the best rebounder WNBA has ever seen. Okay. Got it. Okay. Even when you even when you account for her

  • 1:40:17

    misses, she still has high. Now we going crazy. That boy bad. This is a fact going. Do you watch it as

  • 1:40:23

    much as he does? I don't know how much you watch it. I watch WBA a lot actually. But but what I'm saying is even when you account for her misses,

  • 1:40:28

    her offensive rebounds were still the highest in the league. Even when you take out the ones that that were the Moses Malone offensive rebounds when she

  • 1:40:34

    misses her own. That's all I was about to say. But the thing I don't like that I do agree with a lot of Angel Reese supporters in the offseason is how they

  • 1:40:40

    represent them. They'll take a white player and make and they do this in the NBA too. Listen what I'm saying. And they're

  • 1:40:47

    like, "Angel Reese is outside and while uh Caitlyn Clark is in the gym." And that's just not true. Angel Reese was

  • 1:40:52

    also in the gym. Now I I agree. She did podcast. She did a whole bunch of other [ __ ] She's also like 24, right? They

  • 1:40:58

    decided Angel is young too. I mean I mean Caitlyn Clark is young as well. Yeah. I don't know if Caitlin Clark was

  • 1:41:03

    outside. She might have been the rodeo for a while. How don't you know? Bec-au because of two reasons. One, how they present themselves, which I think is an

  • 1:41:09

    important pointant, but also how the media represent. I'll give you a perfect example. when back when the Knicks had another period where y'all had hope and

  • 1:41:16

    y'all thought y'all going to be good was when Jeremy Lynn was here. Yes. I mean, I didn't but remember that week of

  • 1:41:22

    Lynsanity. It was longer than a week. It was longer than a week. Let me I'm with you. I a [ __ ] with But but but when when

  • 1:41:28

    he first had that run, I watched the ESPN commentators talk about Jeremy Lynn

  • 1:41:33

    at halftime. He goes into the locker room and watches the footage to see what he did wrong in the first half. He looks

  • 1:41:40

    at as if Carmelo was in the corner shooting dice while he was doing that [ __ ] right? The whole team was doing

  • 1:41:46

    that [ __ ] But they made Danny McJeremy the the Harvard grad, the the the the intellectual person. And sometimes they

  • 1:41:52

    frame it that way at the expense of the other players. Caitlyn is great. But you're making excuses for Angel Reese cuz Angel Reese was out here doing the

  • 1:41:58

    stuff that they accused of doing. She was on podcast. She was in videos. But they were saying she wasn't in the gym and I'm saying she was in the gym. She

  • 1:42:03

    also had a broken wrist. So the idea Okay. So that's why she wasn't in the gym. That's why she wasn't doing drill shooting jumpers, but she was in the gym

  • 1:42:09

    working out every day. I don't think you think I know for a fact she was. And there is and and later almost like her

  • 1:42:15

    team had to like show, look, I'm in the gym, too. Oh, okay. All I'm saying is that once you once the narrative is about you, it's hard to break it is all

  • 1:42:21

    I'm saying. Mark, don't come here and try to gain back the favor you lost. I don't need to gain nothing back. Both things can be true. Angel does get

  • 1:42:27

    represented unfairly, but let doesn't mean she can't. We can't criticize her. We should be able to do both. Yes. Let's

  • 1:42:32

    just not do it in the same sentence as anything CC. And that goes for Caitlyn Clark, CNC

  • 1:42:41

    Music Factory, CNC, CC Zabathia, Chanel, Chanel. Yes. No,

  • 1:42:51

    sorry. Yeah. No, I agree. I don't think they're peers basketball wise. I I mean, I don't They're not in the same tier. They're not in the same tier. Yeah. But

  • 1:42:58

    there are people who are on her tier that sometimes get ignored because of Caitlyn. The Asia Wilson's of the world for example. You know what I mean? Who

  • 1:43:03

    actually is the the to me the best player the dominant player in the league right now. Okay. You know what I mean? Wait, who's who? Asia. Asia Wilson. Asia

  • 1:43:10

    Wilson. Okay. Yeah. So, you think Asia gets ignored in some of the conversations or Yes. in some of the

  • 1:43:16

    conversations. Yes. I'm glad she started commercials and branding and things like that. Outside of WNBA purists, like a a person who don't

  • 1:43:23

    really watch the WNBA might not have never heard of AJ Wilson, right? But we've heard of Caitlyn Clark. We've heard of uh Angel Reese. We've heard of

  • 1:43:29

    some of these other names who are not as good as her, right? That's all I'm saying. So, yes, she does. I just want

  • 1:43:35

    the whole idea that Caitlyn Clark is bringing all this money to the WNBA is 100% true. Okay, we can't ignore that.

  • 1:43:41

    But I don't want but it only happens because of the labor of all these other people who helped build this thing up for the last

  • 1:43:47

    15, 20 years. And I think we got we got to hold space for both of those things cuz one Kaitlin Clark doesn't make the WNBA either. You know what I mean? It it

  • 1:43:54

    works because there's a a great talented league that she happens to be a great star on. Well, is that crazy? No, I

  • 1:44:00

    disagree. I don't think people watch the WNBA and put all their money into it just cuz Caitlyn Clark is there. I think

  • 1:44:06

    that's why they're doing it. I'm about to say there's a lot of people watching now and putting more money into it

  • 1:44:12

    because of her. No, what I'm saying is actually happening though. That's But there's a lot of talent in the league. All I'm saying is she's shining above a

  • 1:44:17

    great amount of talent and I just don't want to pretend that she's the only talented person in the league all of a sudden. But you know, that's all I'm saying. You know, like like the was it

  • 1:44:24

    Indiana? They had to move their games to a bigger. She's a rock star. She's the

  • 1:44:29

    biggest thing WNBA has ever seen. I'm not denying that. I'm saying we should acknowledge she's bringing the money. She also pulled up to Duke, wherever the

  • 1:44:36

    Duke men's team was at.

  • 1:44:41

    She high pulling up to [ __ ] gyms saying, "Yo, where where them [ __ ] that ain't

  • 1:44:47

    playing?" It's like in the during Spades when we locked in the four [ __ ] that's playing over there trying to get a game. Kaitlin just pulling up the places and

  • 1:44:54

    pulling that [ __ ] Bow. Yeah, she's a she's a baller. She's great. But and is

  • 1:45:00

    and this is where the Lar Magic Johnson thing would be at. There's there was a narrative for one moment that Larry Bird back in talking like the late '7s, early

  • 1:45:06

    ' 80s. Larry Bird was the hard worker. He was always in the gym. Matthew Johnson was also in the gym doing [ __ ] He also was obviously doing other stuff,

  • 1:45:11

    but no, he wasn't on. All right. Nope. Johnson was in the gym. He was doing

  • 1:45:17

    stuff besides He said he wasn't just in the gym. I'm about to say, you know, you know, he was

  • 1:45:26

    [ __ ] did not take trouble. You going to get yourself in trouble taking me down. Shout out to the brother Magic

  • 1:45:31

    Johnson. Great brother. Listen, man. My point is you left the gym a lot.

  • 1:45:38

    Early Sharon. Oh. Oh. Anyway,

  • 1:45:47

    the other pieces that I wanted y'all opinion on, and this might get controversial, I don't know, is the aftermath of Ryan Clark and

  • 1:45:54

    RG3 because now this is juicy. Cuz Ryan Clark, oh no, it starts with RG3

  • 1:46:00

    analyzing the whole situation we just described, particularly the basketball part of it, and deciding that Angel Ree

  • 1:46:06

    hates Caitlyn Clark. That was his analysis. Yeah. He said Angel Reese hates Caitlyn Clark. And he said, I got

  • 1:46:12

    five or six examples of this. You can see from the foul, you can see the way she responded that it's a p it's personal. She hates him. Blah blah blah

  • 1:46:18

    blah blah. That was the RG3 analysis. Ryan Clark, his colleague at ESPN, uh,

  • 1:46:25

    responds and basically says RG3, I'm paraphrasing, but RG3 is full of [ __ ]

  • 1:46:30

    He's wrong. And the reason he doesn't understand what happened and the reason he has this analysis is because he goes

  • 1:46:36

    home to a white woman or he doesn't go home to a black woman. And so he doesn't understand black women, how they think,

  • 1:46:42

    their emotions, etc. That's that's the gist of Brian Clark's analysis, which was a valid point. Which was a

  • 1:46:49

    good reason for you. He says whack. I was whack and dismissive. You don't know that just because he goes on to he got

  • 1:46:55

    white sisters. He could have I mean, excuse me, he got black sisters. He could have all these other women that are black in his life and still get and

  • 1:47:00

    understand what they going through. I don't like how you just go right off and dismiss somebody's [ __ ] just because of who they go home to. Mhm. I think you

  • 1:47:07

    can I think you could look at people and tell I think if we having an honest talk, you could look at somebody look at

  • 1:47:13

    somebody and tell it's going to white girl. Don't nobody look at Well, I don't look at him and think a lot of them do. That's I think more I think more fairly

  • 1:47:22

    he said he works with he said he works with conversations. But I think this though, well, hold on cuz I just want to

  • 1:47:28

    give Ice cuz even if even if Ice is right, right, RC went on to say that

  • 1:47:34

    while they work together, he has overheard Ryan Clark, I mean, not Ryan Clark, RG3 saying [ __ ] like whether he

  • 1:47:42

    was joking or not, "Boy, I love milk. I love this milk." Making a whole lot of I

  • 1:47:48

    love milk. He's been posting that on Twitter for we've seen him on Twitter behave in that way for a while. So, I

  • 1:47:55

    mean, I think when somebody behaved like that, but I think I think Let me do this real quick. Let me read what he actually said so we all on the same page so we

  • 1:48:01

    can be honest about what he said. Uh, when RG3 jumps on to the hate train or the angry train, it now follows what we

  • 1:48:08

    saw from Keith Overman and David Porto as they David Portoy as they poured onto Angel Reese to make her a villain and

  • 1:48:14

    Caitlyn Clark heroic. The one thing we know about RG3 is he's not having conversations at his home about what black women have to endure in this

  • 1:48:20

    country, about what young black women and athletes like Angel Ree have had to deal with being on the opposite side of

  • 1:48:25

    Caitlyn Clark's rise and ascension into stardom. If you're RG3, when was the last time within your household, you've

  • 1:48:30

    had a conversation about what Angel Reese is dealing with. You haven't been able to do that because in both of your marriages, you've been married to white

  • 1:48:37

    women. And then he goes on and on and on. And then this is the part that you just said. When I worked with RG3, he

  • 1:48:42

    would make all of these sort of corny jokes about milk and how much he loved it and how important it was. And he always points out on social media the

  • 1:48:49

    color of his wife's skin as that the color of her skin is what makes her special. As the color of her skin is

  • 1:48:54

    what makes her a good wife. I've met the lady. I've had a conversation with her. I think she's more than that. But it also leads to what black women deal with

  • 1:49:00

    a lot from black men who have chose to date or marry outside of their race. So, I'm just saying I just think that context is

  • 1:49:06

    important. Very important. Very important. I do get that. Does that change how you how you how you feel

  • 1:49:11

    about what Ryan Clark said? Yeah. Now I have all kinds of Yes. Yes. Cuz the way you said it first, I'm like that don't

  • 1:49:17

    necessarily exactly saying it right. That's why I wanted to read it first. But he went in cuz he know him. He worked with him and gave some extra

  • 1:49:23

    backtory. No, he's been um for a long time actually. RG3 RG3 has been he's

  • 1:49:30

    been he's been saying some wild. You take that that approach to a lot of that [ __ ] a lot. Yeah. I if you go home to a

  • 1:49:37

    white woman, you're going home to a white woman. But RG3 is doing something else. According to Ryan, I don't know

  • 1:49:42

    RG3, but according to Ryan Clark, he's doing something else. He seems like this. It's almost like he wants to be with her because she's white or he's

  • 1:49:48

    obsessed with whiteness. Remember Hubert Davis. He was like, I'm proud that my wife is white, which is different than I

  • 1:49:53

    love my wife and she h just happens to be white, right? I'm proud that she's white is a different thing. I agree. And

  • 1:50:00

    and and I think they caught my man He Davis lacking on that one. Yeah. And I don't think he meant the way he said it. I don't think he did either, but he said

  • 1:50:06

    it and I definitely went in at the time. But, you know, I if he said, "Look, I didn't mean it that way." I' I'd accept it. Why you ain't give him grace? He

  • 1:50:13

    don't give grace. I give grace all the time, but I don't seriously I don't know. I don't know. Davis, uh, I'm

  • 1:50:19

    certain he was nervous. His alma mada [ __ ] Dean Smith was there for however long. Like, he I mean, Roy Williams,

  • 1:50:25

    whoever he took the [ __ ] job from, but I'm saying, you know, that he's nervous sitting there g having to give that speech. He shouldn't have said it.

  • 1:50:31

    I don't ri what he said, but I know that he was nervous. Thank you. That's fair.

  • 1:50:36

    That's fair. Um, but just to not lose sight of

  • 1:50:42

    this, my question would be still, even if that's true, even if

  • 1:50:47

    RG3 is obsessed with whiteness and his white wife and all of that, does that

  • 1:50:52

    still mean that he doesn't have the ability to understand Angel Reese or black women? He's had a black mom. He

  • 1:50:58

    probably has black siblings, maybe black sisters, I don't know. Um, we certainly been around black women. I mean, even if

  • 1:51:03

    all that's true, it seems like the wife part might become almost like a a easy I

  • 1:51:10

    don't call it cheap shot, but he could say he's not tuned into black women's experiences without doing

  • 1:51:15

    the home thing cuz I think the home thing becomes a distraction. I think anytime you involve people's wife and kids, you're running the risk of looking

  • 1:51:23

    away. And Ryan Clark is amazing, by the way. I live right and I I like the sentiment in a lot of the things he said, but I think that some of the um

  • 1:51:30

    some of the jabs in the family realm were a little It gets a little muddy

  • 1:51:36

    some of the audience unnecessarily. Yeah. Yeah. That wasn't necessarily. He could have just even though I think he's right.

  • 1:51:42

    I I think he's right about RG3 based on what I've seen from RG3. Not because of who his wife is. I'm saying RG3 does a

  • 1:51:48

    lot of cornball [ __ ] RG3 does a lot of [ __ ] where he seems obsessed with whiteness and white people and showing the world how connected to white people

  • 1:51:53

    he is. And that makes me think he might not be empathetic to black women. If you were married to a black woman, I would say that based on what I seen from like

  • 1:52:00

    I just think that who he is and how he's been representing himself over the last decade and a half, he just seem like a

  • 1:52:08

    corny dude that'll say some funny [ __ ] or he might think like that cuz a couple

  • 1:52:14

    things we um it's a lot of black people, fam, that feel like I'm better than that. It's a

  • 1:52:20

    lot of black people that look at her like a ghetto girl. who Angel that are critiquing her and dissing her, too. You

  • 1:52:27

    get what I'm saying? So, I think I'm telling you, he's right. You're wrong, Joe. It's a lot of black women dissing

  • 1:52:33

    her. So, what I'm saying is I think that RG3 just came in on some goofy [ __ ] You

  • 1:52:39

    know what I'm saying? I think even if he was married to a black woman, his type of black woman still might be a black

  • 1:52:45

    woman that we might look at like, I just think he's one of the black [ __ ] that sit on the other side of the gate. I

  • 1:52:51

    want to reply to that. Cal saying that. I'm not arguing that people that black women are not dissing Angel Reese. Okay.

  • 1:52:56

    Okay. I don't think that I haven't heard or seen highlighted a diss from a black

  • 1:53:02

    person that's in the same realm as the Dave Portoy comments. I didn't hear Dave or I'm not saying it's the same degrees.

  • 1:53:10

    What I'm saying is that there are black people that sit on the other side of that gate and feel like, "Yo, dog, look at these Donald Trump supporting heavy

  • 1:53:17

    heavy heavy supporting black people that come out and say a whole bunch of dumbass [ __ ] in support of Trump." You

  • 1:53:23

    could be a black Republican and not say some of that [ __ ] that they be saying. So, so I think that at RG3, he just a I

  • 1:53:31

    guess like a goofy [ __ ] that be just saying [ __ ] for fam. We got friends that be like, "Yo, if it ain't snowing,

  • 1:53:37

    I ain't going." That's a fact. We have them that come up here to be like, "Yo, if it ain't snowing, I ain't going. If it ain't white, it ain't right." They

  • 1:53:42

    say that [ __ ] up here. Don't have I don't have friends that say

  • 1:53:48

    that to you. Yes, you do. Yes, you do. No, there's one person that says that.

  • 1:53:54

    That's not friends. That paints a very different. There's one [ __ ] that say that [ __ ] I'm just saying. But what I'm

  • 1:54:00

    saying is I'm I'm just saying that and we can get into how some of them Dominicans feel. True. I I'm not

  • 1:54:06

    disappointed. When Dominicans get into their bag, I try to let them. A lot of goofy blacks feel like that, too.

  • 1:54:12

    Especially once they've ascended to a certain level, they feel like everybody under over there is over there. So, I

  • 1:54:17

    just think he a goofy [ __ ] regardless if his chick was white or black or purple. I think he just a corny goofy

  • 1:54:22

    [ __ ] No, I can't even give him that because I think part of his chick part

  • 1:54:28

    of him being that way is because his chick is white. That's why he went after her. That's why he went after the one before her. He only wants that because

  • 1:54:34

    he feels in some way that that's better. He a corny, goofy [ __ ] Yeah, but it ain't it ain't no If his girl was It's

  • 1:54:41

    not No. If his girl was black, he wouldn't even go to black because he looks at it as beneath. Oh, good point.

  • 1:54:46

    I see what you're saying. That's a good point. Yeah, that's a good point. I agree. That's a good point. Yeah. And it

  • 1:54:52

    becomes problematic when those are the those are the black voices picked to chime in to represent black matter.

  • 1:55:00

    Well, see that's a whole another conversation cuz we why they picking them voices. But we also have to step out. Although nobody asked that [ __ ] to

  • 1:55:06

    say anything. No, but even when they do, they know they know they go to certain folk who know they're going to play it

  • 1:55:11

    and say he can handle football stuff. I think a lot of people they could they could leave football stuff. I think I'm

  • 1:55:17

    not talking about this guy, but I think a lot of people dismiss others because of their their who they choose to be

  • 1:55:22

    with or their partner. And I think that we have to stop that. Just because somebody Huh. No, I don't like that. Yeah. Just because somebody has a white

  • 1:55:29

    girlfriend, that doesn't mean you you don't stand with black or black power or

  • 1:55:34

    you're not aware what's going on in our community. You come from that. We come from that. You know what I mean? And I think that a lot of times people use

  • 1:55:40

    that to weigh the scale on who to take serious or who can speak on something. I think that's whack. You can't tell people how to judge people though. But I

  • 1:55:47

    just think it's whack though. It may be whack. You can't tell me how to judge people. I think like judge them people. I stand my wife is my wife is wait.

  • 1:55:55

    Wait, hold on. Everywhere in America, they're judging you based off your significant other as well. That's not

  • 1:56:01

    just if you have those who judge you. I'm not flip. My wife is My wife is an

  • 1:56:07

    Indian woman, right? But I'm not that you can't I come from where I come from.

  • 1:56:12

    I understand it. I I just fell in love with who I fell in love with. If you judge me on that, you're an idiot

  • 1:56:17

    because I'm outside. I'm in the trenches and I get back to the communities and I understand the struggle.

  • 1:56:24

    Not and and me I do what I said for I I was saying to something you said right

  • 1:56:29

    before that to fall in love with who you I was saying you don't think you but you don't think you can fall in love who you fall in love with. I think you can but

  • 1:56:35

    sometime that's an excuse like I'll give you example RG3 is probably saying I I

  • 1:56:40

    just happen to fall in love but I'm not talking about you. I'm not criticizing you. Let's talk about No, cuz I don't want to talk about RG3. you already

  • 1:56:46

    described. Let's talk about I'm just saying in general terms I think people say that and sometimes it's true and

  • 1:56:51

    sometimes that becomes the excuse or it becomes a way of convincing yourself that you don't have certain like

  • 1:56:57

    deepseated like commit that's all I'm saying can I ask you a question and I

  • 1:57:03

    don't Is your wife black and Spanish or she [ __ ] Spanish? She she's she's a black Puerto Rican. A black Puerto

  • 1:57:09

    Rican. Cool. When I when I watch you Aren't you teaching your son to speak Spanish? Isn't that your thing? Yeah.

  • 1:57:16

    That don't take away from what your contributions or how you feel about black women or But she was a black

  • 1:57:22

    woman. Yeah. Okay. I see what you're saying. Yeah, I got it. I got it. Okay. So, that's that's not a good example. But what I'm saying is that there's some

  • 1:57:27

    people out there, but let's say she let's say she were white. Yeah. But she's not. It wouldn't be for me. But

  • 1:57:32

    but let's say she let's say she were. I don't think it's unreasonable for somebody to say that that shapes

  • 1:57:42

    how they see me, right? But my point is even bigger than that is I'm just saying

  • 1:57:47

    if what if I if every woman I dated was white. Okay. And every and I say I just keep falling in love. I just keep falling in love. It's like if a woman if

  • 1:57:55

    a woman say I just happen to keep meeting NFL players, right? Yeah. We don't be letting that ride. Right. That's what I'm saying. Like at some

  • 1:58:00

    point you you got a type but it's still Yeah. But your type shouldn't take away

  • 1:58:06

    how you feel about your people. Yeah, I disagree with that. Really? I disagree with that. Let me ask but you wrong when

  • 1:58:12

    you and you be a hyp. I'm a hypocrite. But that I don't like when you do that though because when you do that

  • 1:58:18

    dismissive and we can't have we can't have the discussion. Well, we can still have the Listen, I fall on the side of

  • 1:58:23

    you're being judged uh by your partner. That that's my blanket. Yeah, you can be judged, but it doesn't matter who your partner. You shouldn't take away your

  • 1:58:29

    contribution or what you do or what you believe in. It should that shouldn't that's what I'm saying what your contribution is. Yeah, I disagree. Okay,

  • 1:58:37

    discuss it. If I was No, it probably doesn't shape my contribution, right? But if if I'm

  • 1:58:43

    fighting for racial justice and I have a white wife and I fight for racial justice and she's out there with me a

  • 1:58:50

    white wife. That's why I made a point of saying like a pattern. If if my whole social circle is white, if all my

  • 1:58:55

    partners are white, that's different. That's different. I got you. Right. That's what I'm saying. like at some point like your choices matter and

  • 1:59:01

    they're not just random. They're informed by something. That's all I'm saying. I agree with you. Even even if and question to both of you, even if

  • 1:59:07

    your white wife or whomever is out there with you in the struggle is out there

  • 1:59:12

    like while you fighting for social justice is with you along the way, does that still take away from your

  • 1:59:17

    contribution? For me, we right we don't even have to keep saying wife. My experience in this is with the opposite

  • 1:59:24

    of of black women being in black spaces kicking black extra blacky black [ __ ]

  • 1:59:32

    Yes. With white husbands that you couldn't mention on air that they

  • 1:59:38

    couldn't be seen with. They could couldn't pop up. It was like a covert thing. I've seen that multiple times.

  • 1:59:44

    But why you think that is? Because we cuz [ __ ] cuz because you would take first of all it's hard to be a woman in the field and on top of that you would

  • 1:59:51

    discredit her and her contributions because she has a white husband. So they have to hide it. You wouldn't not only they're not taking them serious

  • 1:59:57

    initially but you would even give her a more excuse not to take it serious. You got a white husband. You can't talk that

  • 2:00:02

    [ __ ] But it should not take away from her contributions to what she feeling about the struggle or help me out. It

  • 2:00:08

    will I think he's articulating yourself perfectly. I should disagree. It will and it does. I agree with it will and it

  • 2:00:13

    does. It shouldn't. But the truth is it does. Okay. I think it should. I think that's where I should. I think I think I

  • 2:00:20

    disagree. I think it should. Why? Why do I disagree? You or I don't care. I

  • 2:00:26

    disagree because who are we to set the standard on what is important to somebody else.

  • 2:00:32

    Again, I think if we start talking about pro black issues, right, cuz

  • 2:00:38

    that's what we talking about. So, I'm going to stay here. Somebody could have be black with a black wife and black children and don't

  • 2:00:44

    do [ __ ] for outside black people. They don't do a [ __ ] thing. They selfish. They don't do nothing for nobody else.

  • 2:00:50

    And then you could have somebody, a man and his white wife that spend tons of time. We not even going to get into

  • 2:00:56

    money. We going to talk about time cuz time is more important. It's [ __ ] that got their feet on the ground helping

  • 2:01:01

    people, helping other people progress in our neighborhoods that those same black people with a black wife and black black

  • 2:01:08

    kids don't do a [ __ ] thing for. So when you look at that and you look at the actual acts and you look at the

  • 2:01:14

    actual time being given, who is given more to the black community in that

  • 2:01:19

    particular instance? See, I I don't think that's in direct response to what

  • 2:01:24

    I'm saying. It's not how because because Okay, you can go. So because I don't

  • 2:01:32

    think no one is saying that the only people that should be judged is the black person who's dating a white woman. So the black person who's married to a

  • 2:01:37

    black person doesn't do [ __ ] they should be judged, too. on that on that. Exactly. So So hear me out. I'm not

  • 2:01:42

    calling that person pro black. I'm not I'm not saying that they are. What I'm saying is that there are people that act like they are and you not pro black just

  • 2:01:50

    because you got a black family and the people that might be a mixed family that are doing mad [ __ ] and doing mad giving

  • 2:01:56

    mad contributions. You can't say that they're not right. So my argument isn't that first my argument isn't that

  • 2:02:02

    everybody who's in the all black family is pro black. That's not what I said. No, I know you didn't say I'm responding

  • 2:02:08

    to what you Just hear me out fully. So I'm saying that in the same way that I make a judgment against that the person

  • 2:02:15

    who's black who chooses a white partner, white partners, I'm also making a judgment a worse judgment to the black

  • 2:02:20

    person who's with a black person that doesn't do [ __ ] I they get the worst judgment from me. You're not addressing what I'm talking address. The family

  • 2:02:27

    you'll see how it all connects to you. Let me finish. I promise. So that's the first thing. The second thing is the black person with the white person that

  • 2:02:33

    is doing a lot. They also get a judgment from me. A positive judgment. I think that they're doing extraordinary work

  • 2:02:39

    and I would call them pro black. I'm just saying that it's a demerit for me,

  • 2:02:44

    you know, not that it doesn't I'm not throwing away the black person with a white with a white partner and I'm not embracing the black person with a black

  • 2:02:50

    person doesn't do [ __ ] I'm saying though it is a factor. Ice often talks about like the Madden scores. I'm just saying that that bar that on on the

  • 2:02:58

    slider that just goes down on the slider for me. That's So you don't believe that you can just meet somebody and fall in love with them no matter what race they

  • 2:03:04

    are? Yeah, I think you can. Even if you were pro black and you you pro black, you just meet a lady and you fall in

  • 2:03:09

    love with her. That that you you had black girlfriends your whole life or a black ex-wife and you met somebody, you

  • 2:03:14

    fell in love with them, you don't feel like that can happen. I believe that some of these people, they wouldn't allow themselves to fall in love with a

  • 2:03:21

    white person. I believe that some of these people, no matter how great the white woman might be, they Well, watch

  • 2:03:26

    guess who's coming home. Watch guess who's coming home for dinner. Sydney Portier. So, I think that I think that a

  • 2:03:32

    lot of people again, no matter how dope the person would be, they would just not

  • 2:03:38

    do it. You get what I'm saying? Like they would they would fight they would fight it not to do it. And so I I think that Yeah. I think that that's if that's

  • 2:03:45

    in your bag and you're not open to it, you're just not open to it. Everybody like some people have um

  • 2:03:52

    ICE Ice has a preference of I'm not dis Go ahead. I ain't saying nothing. Ice got a preference of women. Yeah. Right.

  • 2:03:59

    So Ice could potentially meet a woman that is bigger. Ice wouldn't allow

  • 2:04:06

    himself to go down that road. So he wouldn't even know that this woman is just an amazing super duper duper dope

  • 2:04:12

    ass person. Ice is not going to open himself up. That's fair. That's fair. Okay. So that's what I'm saying. Like

  • 2:04:17

    I'm not [ __ ] on Ice. That's just I know Ice so I know his preferences. Um I think that some people won't allow

  • 2:04:22

    themselves Whoa, whoa, whoa. That's crazy to say. I know we being immature.

  • 2:04:27

    Why is it crazy? Go ahead. Can't do that. There's a wow. Oh,

  • 2:04:33

    I know. I don't know what the preference is. Yeah, I heard it too. I was trying to stay locked. That's why I stay

  • 2:04:39

    locked in. I'm sorry. I'm a damn he prefers petite. No, it just sound That's

  • 2:04:46

    cool. Idiot. I just think I just think like I just think that like give you an example like

  • 2:04:53

    uh Jane Fonda. Okay, I'm listening. You know where I'm going, right? So, Jane Fonda was a huge

  • 2:05:00

    huge huge financial supporter of the Black Panther Party. Huge. A lot of people don't know that. Huge financial

  • 2:05:05

    supporter of the Black Panther Party. So, this and this is in the 6070s where

  • 2:05:11

    that [ __ ] was like blasphemy at that point in time. So, do you now say Jane Fonda wasn't pro black? Again, you get

  • 2:05:17

    what I'm saying? Like, I'm just giving examples. He just said he knocked the slider down a little bit. You're not

  • 2:05:22

    going to be a 99 overall. Oh, you might be in the house. I just feel like it's still pro black means the same thing for

  • 2:05:28

    white people and black people. Exactly. I don't think that means the same thing at all. Whoopdedoo. Jane Fonda [ __ ]

  • 2:05:33

    donated some [ __ ] to the Black Panther Party. What it means for her to be pro black and what it means for a black person to be pro black, I don't view the

  • 2:05:39

    same at all. That's possible. Okay. Again, I think I think everybody makes that up for themselves. What I'm saying

  • 2:05:44

    is I think that um like I I don't I'm judging people based on who the person is. Like you know what I'm saying? That

  • 2:05:50

    that's it. Like and I think that more of us should do that. I think that sometimes when we don't get judged based on who we are, we find it offensive,

  • 2:05:58

    right? Like we find it offensive and become part of the problem. I get we get super because we want we want we want we

  • 2:06:03

    want change. We want we do want change and we talk about change and then without changing. Yeah. Without changing

  • 2:06:09

    and I'm not saying dating outside your race, but I just said we want change. That sounded racist to me. We want

  • 2:06:15

    change without changing. Something sounds off about that to me. That's not No, it's not. I'm just telling you how it sounds to me. you

  • 2:06:21

    become part of the problem if you uh what's this word when you exclude people? Ostracize. What's the word? I'm

  • 2:06:28

    But I I don't want to ostracize people. I just don't want to I I think that part of black liberation has to come with

  • 2:06:33

    building black community and black families. I agree with Okay. I agree with that. And I think that that's very difficult to do if we're not even

  • 2:06:39

    looking at our uh looking for partners inside of our community. And it's not

  • 2:06:45

    just women. I mean, I hear black gay men talk about this all the time. They said a lot of the other black gay men,

  • 2:06:50

    particularly when I talk like academics, they say a lot of the black gay men who they would want to date are dating white

  • 2:06:55

    men, Latino, you know, white Latinos, not black. Like they're looking outside. So it's not just even a gender thing.

  • 2:07:01

    It's that part of white supremacy is teaching us that we're not good enough. And so our success is to go outside. And

  • 2:07:06

    so I'm skep and so that's my skepticism of people. Again, I know people who have bogeies, you know, they got they got I

  • 2:07:12

    don't frame it like that, but where there's one person, you know, there's one exception to the rule. I get that.

  • 2:07:18

    Um, but I'm I find that sometimes when you look I mean I there are some prominent black intellectuals. Well,

  • 2:07:24

    black people the only people running around even to have the freedom to do this [ __ ] that we talking about. Them other people is having different

  • 2:07:29

    conversations in their households and it ain't even their decisions up to the parent. So don't you bring no [ __ ] in here. Don't you bring no person that's

  • 2:07:35

    not Chinese, Asian, white, Jewish. They just getting they just strict with it. We out here trying to

  • 2:07:41

    be the [ __ ] out of Rainbow Coalition. Yeah, get this [ __ ] the [ __ ] out of the bottom of the bottom of the lad. They

  • 2:07:46

    ain't going to let none of that [ __ ] happen. They'll have a meeting every month. They'll go pick So, so who who

  • 2:07:52

    the black people dating? Who the Asian people dating? Like, if you saying that the black people, other other

  • 2:07:57

    ethnicities aren't allowing it. How are white people dating so many people outside their race? And Asian women,

  • 2:08:02

    Asian women or black men are the two biggest demographics that are dating outside their race. And here's why. Because, and you make a great point, but

  • 2:08:09

    part of it is that when Asian women date white men, they're perceived as marrying up. So, they're this don't bring Are

  • 2:08:14

    they talking with the blacks, too? Yeah. But but not nearly at the same rate. The I don't know the I don't know the percentages. I'm just telling you those

  • 2:08:20

    those two things are factual. And it's also which Asians, you know, like Cambodians are dating and M are dating

  • 2:08:25

    black men far more than like Koreans and but the idea basically is we want to preserve our race or uplift our race.

  • 2:08:32

    We're going to preserve our race by being with our people. We're going to uplift our race by getting white men. You know what I mean? Where and and I

  • 2:08:37

    think that's part of the And that's why that one friend that y'all mentioned talks like that. I don't know what you

  • 2:08:42

    mean. one friend. The one friend that y'all said if it ain't white, whatever. That's why they talk like that. I think

  • 2:08:48

    I think but I think that's more than just think. No, no, that's a

  • 2:08:56

    Yes, I'm agreeing with you. Look, I'm I'm thinking about it. I'm agreeing with that. What I'm saying is it's this misconception that if you date outside

  • 2:09:03

    your race, you are viewing your race as less than. That's a misconception because I

  • 2:09:09

    don't think white people are better than black people at all. and my girlfriend is white and I rem I don't think white

  • 2:09:15

    people I mean if you look at it on it in its entirety can hold the candle to black people. So I don't feel that way.

  • 2:09:21

    I don't it's nothing insecure about me. I'm 49 years old. I've dated black women my whole entire life. I don't look at

  • 2:09:26

    white women like they're better than black women. That's a misconception. And I also think that's a dismissive view of

  • 2:09:32

    how we take something and just drop it in the water. Oh, he must got selfhate or some other dumb [ __ ] that people

  • 2:09:38

    say. But when you talk like RG3, he's dodo. He's a dodo. That's He's

  • 2:09:45

    saying dodo [ __ ] And he's been saying dodo [ __ ] Like this is who he is. This is who he's proven to be. You get what

  • 2:09:52

    I'm saying? Like so you never heard me say no. If it ain't snowing, I ain't going none of that doofy [ __ ] Antoine

  • 2:09:58

    fire. You ever heard you say [ __ ] like that? No, I'm just saying you just say that to

  • 2:10:03

    me like so so let me let me ask yall another I want to just pivot off this and just ask one more question which is

  • 2:10:11

    should this be out of bounds for your colleague at work cuz remember RG3 works

  • 2:10:16

    with Ryan cuz cuz RG3 basically makes a statement saying this is out of bounds. You're not a good teammate. They're saying you know now it's a professional

  • 2:10:22

    I think I think if RG3 kept it in a basketball context of basketball Yeah. I

  • 2:10:28

    think that he's well within his right to do so. I know. Listen. So, if he did that and

  • 2:10:35

    then and then Ryan Clark attacked his personal choices, I think that's unprofessional. Should ESPN do something

  • 2:10:41

    about it? There's there's a thing. I don't think they should. I don't think so either,

  • 2:10:46

    but there's a conversation online about that. They should intervene. They should suspend them. They should punish him. They should ESPN is running out of black

  • 2:10:52

    people. No. Why I think they should suspend suspend? You said yes. I think they should not suspend. I think they

  • 2:10:58

    should discipline him because if when you flip it, let's say he don't get any

  • 2:11:04

    um repercussions repercussions and then when a white person does the same [ __ ] we'll be calling for their head. You get

  • 2:11:11

    what I'm saying? So I think that you should keep it Oh, you mean like if somebody said like, "Oh, of course he understands John Moran. He goes home to

  • 2:11:17

    a black woman or some Yo, it's easy for Malikica Andrews

  • 2:11:22

    to understand what they're going through. She grew up in Newark. You know what I'm saying? And then you like we like what? So, we'll be tight if if some

  • 2:11:29

    of that [ __ ] were to to surface. You get what I'm saying? Rightfully so. So, I'm just saying if I'm RG3 and he expresses

  • 2:11:35

    any any uh discontent with what with what Ryan said, then I think they got to step in.

  • 2:11:42

    But RG3 might not give a [ __ ] but I mean he dissitation after all. He's very upset and he pinned it. Go read right

  • 2:11:50

    above the video of him selling booty enhancements from his from his wife saying that this it helps end

  • 2:11:56

    discrimination by showing that white women have booties too. I think in man in man code you theoretically I think you're

  • 2:12:03

    correct. You shouldn't talk about anybody's wife. Uh Ryan's first sentence in his reply tweet

  • 2:12:12

    says, "Yo dog, you know what it is with me and you." That's the what the very

  • 2:12:17

    first sentence says. Anything after that, I understand, but not in a professional form. I I

  • 2:12:23

    still understand. I understand too. I still understand. I understand too. But not did he he said it as professionally

  • 2:12:30

    as you could say it. Yo, and all he did was state facts. He didn't get into how he felt about it. He said, "You've been

  • 2:12:36

    married twice to white woman, white women. This is how you speak about your white wife. I've met her. I think she's

  • 2:12:42

    more than that." Mhm. I think that's respectful if you're talking about somebody's uh wife, right? No, he didn't diss his wife. He's like, "You're

  • 2:12:48

    objectifying your wife, not me." Yeah. I don't think he dissed his wife. You're fantasizing her whiteness. Yeah. That's

  • 2:12:53

    what you're doing. Yeah. You run around talking about how good the milk is and all that other [ __ ] is goofy time. Cuz I

  • 2:12:59

    don't think RG3 ever bagged the baddest milk in the in the club. I mean, that's

  • 2:13:04

    that's subjective. But what I'm saying in his life, I'm not talking about his wife right this second. His wife right this second uh is an attractive woman.

  • 2:13:11

    He might have. I'm saying the way he speaks about international athlete, bro. Yeah, but [ __ ] be grading on the curve

  • 2:13:17

    with coming a lot of time. I'm just talking about him and his that [ __ ] went to and was him in college. So he

  • 2:13:24

    had to pick the litter in some of these high colleges that got 30,000 40,000. Let me go back to the RG uh pre-draft

  • 2:13:30

    and see who was sitting next to him cuz I'll go look. I'm not talking about who he might have had in Man. Them white

  • 2:13:36

    girls go crazy over black athletes in college. Yeah, but if you I feel you. You know what I'm saying? Like I don't

  • 2:13:42

    know. I don't know him. I don't know his why. I don't know nothing about him. I'm just saying. Yeah. Anyway, it'll be

  • 2:13:47

    interesting to see what happens with it. I I I don't think a suspension is coming especially since so much of it happened off air. Oh, it happened off air. Yeah,

  • 2:13:53

    cuz like some of his on like their platforms, their their streams, you know,

  • 2:13:58

    Twitter wasn't I thought he did that on the show. No, Ryan did it on Ryan Ryan did it on the pivot on the pivot. Oh, so

  • 2:14:04

    that's Ryan did on his show. So, so it's fine. I don't think um I know we've been

  • 2:14:11

    on sports related topics for a while. Uh I did want to let you guys know that I

  • 2:14:17

    went to my stepson's [ __ ] um game in Boston like some some football

  • 2:14:24

    camp. He asked me to go so I went. Dope. That's good. Dope. Mom's been asking me

  • 2:14:30

    to go for mad. Oh, he really wants you to see him. Shut up. It's different when kids It's different when the kid hits

  • 2:14:36

    you itself and says, "Yo, I need you to come to my got to show up. I need you to

  • 2:14:41

    come to my uh ABC camp or whatever the [ __ ] the camp or Under Armour. I don't [ __ ] know. But it was right there in

  • 2:14:47

    Massachusetts. So, [ __ ] it. Let's go." Hopped in the car, didn't fly cuz Newark

  • 2:14:53

    airport still has me scared. I'm not playing with them. Tina bar clear.

  • 2:14:59

    I I took Newark airport. Oh, okay. Yeah. I mean I mean not New York airport. I took uh a car. I mean Joe button seats.

  • 2:15:07

    But I took the Joe but I took the Joe button seats down there.

  • 2:15:13

    All right. Well, good. Um left at 6:00 a.m. on on on Sunday. Quick drive down

  • 2:15:19

    there. That [ __ ] was an unbelievable experience. I guess that's what I'm trying to say to y'all. Learned a lot.

  • 2:15:26

    Saw a lot. Well, my mind is [ __ ] blown. My mind is kind of blown away. In what regard? Yeah. What you What you So,

  • 2:15:32

    you go there, it's the Under Armour camp, so huge field. Kid from East Orange was in there, too. This kid from

  • 2:15:39

    East Orange, my man's nephew, was in there, too. It was 500 kids. It was a lot of kids.

  • 2:15:45

    Uh, and they all were standing outside the field and there coaches saying, "All right, quarterbacks, quarterbacks,

  • 2:15:50

    quarterback by every position." So, you seeing all of these young kids, I mean, some as young as seventh grade,

  • 2:15:59

    but they got their gear on, they focused, game face. Uh, [ __ ] Even my

  • 2:16:06

    [ __ ] steps once we got there, I'm looking at him like, "Yeah." Like proud and [ __ ] He's like serious. Yeah.

  • 2:16:11

    Serious. Like, whoa. look. So anyway, we go in there. I'm seeing all of these parents. Like it

  • 2:16:18

    almost looked like these bleachers could be filled if we all sat here at the same time just to watch a camp, not a game,

  • 2:16:26

    not a scrimmage. Uh so I'm just looking at the coaches that came out there,

  • 2:16:33

    scouts that came out there. I'm looking at how the kids were being

  • 2:16:38

    coached. Them coaches is straight to the point. Oh, you hardheaded. you have a hard time listening. Uh any anywhere

  • 2:16:43

    else you could cut immediately. Oh, you're not making it. You're not going to the league if you don't clean this. They getting right to it. We ain't got

  • 2:16:48

    time to mince feelings here. So, the coaching I was blown away at. Um once I

  • 2:16:54

    started talking to some of the sports dads and some of the scouts out there [ __ ] cuz you know there some podcast

  • 2:17:00

    fans out there, man. I was blown away by that too. Look at all these young kids. None of these [ __ ] was alive when Pump

  • 2:17:05

    It Up came out. They don't know you as they don't know you. They don't know [ __ ] about Pump It

  • 2:17:10

    Up. But the dad's out there, so you get to kicking it. Talking to these NIL agents is out there. They start talking

  • 2:17:17

    about just how much money is involved in youth athletics and

  • 2:17:24

    just scouting and just hearing some of the numbers thrown around. And now I'm out here for a couple hours. [ __ ] I'm

  • 2:17:30

    looking at these kids like I'm a damn scout. I'm like, oh [ __ ] him right there. He going to go somewhere. His mechanics

  • 2:17:37

    off. I could have put some money in one of them receivers pockets and and try to

  • 2:17:42

    it was just an amazing experience. Uh, shout out to all of y'all high school kids that's focused on where you going

  • 2:17:50

    business and and intent letters and colleges and and then they meeting with the parents and and here goes [ __ ]

  • 2:17:57

    stupid thicko now when talk to all these coaches and some [Music]

  • 2:18:02

    Lululemon you don't move that [ __ ] is big business bro like AA and all that like my man I was

  • 2:18:09

    telling Cory off Mike mic like my man two of his daughters play AAOU and he was like, "Dog, I don't see how the

  • 2:18:15

    parents are traveling. Like, it's tra they at a different spot every weekend." Yeah, he was full time, bro. And that

  • 2:18:21

    [ __ ] is costly. Like, my man is up up. But he was like, "Dog, I don't see how these people are going from Kentucky.

  • 2:18:27

    Next week you in PA, next week you in Tennessee." Like, yo, you traveling and all of that [ __ ] with these kids. That

  • 2:18:32

    [ __ ] is costly. If your kid is not a star, cuz you know, if you star, we going to make concessions, take care of

  • 2:18:37

    you. But if your kid is not a star and you covering all that, it's hard for them to get in AA, which means it's hard

  • 2:18:43

    for them to be seen and go to the next level. High school is not enough anymore. When we were coming up, high school was all you needed. My niece is a

  • 2:18:49

    very good volleyball player. And she's she's in Texas. She's in Boston. She's all these places just to be in the

  • 2:18:55

    circuit to have a shot at a D1. Like I saw it with Taya and then I saw it with Share. Like they father been moving

  • 2:19:01

    around for six, seven, eight like every [ __ ] weekend, bro. two and three

  • 2:19:06

    times you traveling throughout the week just so that your kids could play basketball. Oh, the basketball's all year round, too. My girl said that in

  • 2:19:13

    three months, bro. That [ __ ] is different. In three months, every every week some way different. So, Mark said,

  • 2:19:19

    "Yo, dog, in the summer, they playing EBL. They doing all this [ __ ] And then

  • 2:19:24

    the winter is the actual seasons." So, it's just nonstop. Like, that [ __ ] is a a money grab on another level. Just a

  • 2:19:31

    lot of politics. They were telling me a story. Let me make up some schools. They were telling me this O lineman uh was at

  • 2:19:38

    Ruckers getting let's call it 40 grand.

  • 2:19:43

    UNCC called say, "Hey, we we like him. We need him over here. We can get him a

  • 2:19:48

    buck, excuse me, call it a buck 60." Jesus. He go over there, mind you, they've been watching him and they

  • 2:19:54

    showed him. They they they've been watching him. They kind of know his bill of health and all that. So, he get over

  • 2:19:59

    there, he does the the health test. They see something that they were aware of already. in front had a change of heart

  • 2:20:05

    on it. Wow. And say, "You know what? Never mind. We cool on you." Wait, what?

  • 2:20:11

    You just modified your entire life. So now you you blew your your your starting spot over here and you're guaranteed

  • 2:20:17

    money over here chasing a a dream and they just dead you like that. So yeah, some of the stories some of that

  • 2:20:23

    politics going a [ __ ] coming. It's getting worse. This [ __ ] is getting crazy. Like it's getting worse. again

  • 2:20:29

    like you know my peoples is shout to Ace Bailey um is represented by home team

  • 2:20:34

    future sixer but uh it's facts but no that [ __ ] is different like I

  • 2:20:39

    watch that [ __ ] bro that [ __ ] is a all that [ __ ] is a job a 24-hour job that these agencies and all

  • 2:20:46

    of that [ __ ] go through it's different bro this [ __ ] is big big business with these high school kids like we know

  • 2:20:51

    who's [ __ ] we knew Stefan was Stefan when he was in play small fry like I played small fry [ __ ] Stefan played and

  • 2:20:58

    I'm older than him. I'm two grades older than him. He played with the grade above me.

  • 2:21:04

    Like he was getting 50 in their age group. He was always 10. You know what I'm saying? Like they they So you knew

  • 2:21:10

    already who Steph was going to be. You knew who some of these kids was going to be. They just didn't have NIL back then.

  • 2:21:16

    So then 500 kids after it's all said and done, the coaches get up in front of the Under Armour step and repeat and say,

  • 2:21:22

    "All right, check this out. Picking two of y'all from each position.

  • 2:21:28

    If I don't call your name, better luck next time. They picked two people from

  • 2:21:33

    each position. Now I got to watch I got to watch five 494 kids 92 kids be tight. Some of them

  • 2:21:41

    [ __ ] I thought was all right. They they didn't get picked or they might have been all right. Yeah. And the

  • 2:21:47

    politics start kicking. I wouldn't give a [ __ ] Yeah, that part's the politics start kicking. My man got picked.

  • 2:21:53

    Congrats. Number number 50. Bring him up. See him doing that. Now he ain't Richardson. see him doing all that quick foot [ __ ] but he looked different, too.

  • 2:21:59

    See, that's the thing, too. Now, some [ __ ] be the camp, the camp we went to was in Boston. He been balling in Texas.

  • 2:22:05

    And it's different. It's very different. Texas and Florida, Alabama. I'm taking my Texas talent over

  • 2:22:11

    here with this little recreational camp. This [ __ ] is cool, but I'm balling like

  • 2:22:17

    country down there, dog. He got on 700 rubber bands of every camp he been to.

  • 2:22:22

    All of the placards hanging off his book bag of every camp he been to. like he look like he don't look like these

  • 2:22:28

    little Boston bums. I'm showing y'all how I do this, right? You know, and that's the first thing the coach said when they called him up there, too. And

  • 2:22:34

    then I'll say that in closing because goes like, "It's important to make yourself identifiable out here and stand

  • 2:22:39

    out. This young kid just did did just that. They bring the aim up number 50 out of the air." It's like, god damn it.

  • 2:22:46

    I'm out here cheering [ __ ] I'm hit the chase. [ __ ] talking about

  • 2:22:52

    cheering. We way past time to invest. All that tricking

  • 2:22:58

    money is about to go somewhere different now. Oh [ __ ] I finally found a way we can get this thing

  • 2:23:05

    back. Hey, all the spinning I've been doing for 6 years. A light at the tunnel. Goddamn it. You see me? It's got

  • 2:23:13

    potential. This kid got going somewhere now. Amen. Amen, man. I'm

  • 2:23:21

    happy probably meant a lot to him. So now the next one is in Ramsey. Oh, which is in Jersey. If you get picked. So I

  • 2:23:28

    guess Yeah. Good [ __ ] man. [ __ ] different. That's what's up. That [ __ ] is big business.

  • 2:23:34

    Big big business. Ain't no more leaving it to chance. These [ __ ] got trainers in high school. Oh yeah.

  • 2:23:40

    Personal trainers in high school. All of that [ __ ] Um do y'all want to get to the the tragic boat boat crash? Sure.

  • 2:23:50

    It was a tragic boat crash by the Brooklyn Bridge. Brooklyn Bridge. The bridge didn't even move. That was a

  • 2:23:56

    Caribbean. The Caribbean boat. Mexican boat. Mexican navy. Why are you smiling while we deliver? Cuz you know he he I'm

  • 2:24:03

    not. You want to be flipped? No, I'm Get off camera if you have a smile while we listen to what you There's nothing I

  • 2:24:09

    said that will cause No, it's not funny. 19 people injured. There was two people

  • 2:24:15

    died. For real? Yes. Yes. Queen flip. Two people. That's why it's tragic. Got

  • 2:24:21

    it. And some [ __ ] was hanging off the thingamajiggy. We saw one person dive in

  • 2:24:27

    the water. Yeah. You move cuz you don't know how to be you not you not mature enough. Cuz you not I don't think No.

  • 2:24:34

    No. You're not mature. Get Get the [ __ ] out of here. All right. You need to go too. Get the [ __ ] out. I'm good. I'm good. Y'all is evil people, man. I don't

  • 2:24:41

    understand. Yo, go ahead. I did. And y'all [ __ ] said I did. I I went No, it

  • 2:24:49

    was tragic. That [ __ ] looked fake when I was watching it. We were at a show in Brooklyn. They said the boat just hit

  • 2:24:56

    the bridge. Like, yeah, right. That's some [ __ ] Yo, kick kick Cory out, bro. Yeah, please. That's what you got to kick out. Cory don't have a mic. I'm

  • 2:25:02

    not looking at him listening to him. When I first saw the accident, I didn't

  • 2:25:07

    understand just how I just didn't understand because those look like just lights hanging. Yeah. I didn't get what

  • 2:25:14

    the hoopla was. And then more footage started coming out and you're like, "Wait, there was people standing up

  • 2:25:19

    there?" Yeah. Yeah. So that's part of a It's like a a ritual or whatever. It was

  • 2:25:24

    a Mexican naval ship and when they leave the final docking, they they do that. It's like a display. They stand up, they

  • 2:25:31

    stretch the arms out, they stand across all the way around the thing. From what I understood, the boat lost power. Yes.

  • 2:25:38

    And it was it was actually drifting backwards. Yes. When it hit. So, it's not like they stood there and saw the

  • 2:25:44

    [ __ ] coming and ran into it. It was drifting backwards when it hit the bridge. Mhm.

  • 2:25:51

    That is unbelievable. Yeah. I had a I I immediately I'm like,

  • 2:25:56

    "Wait, a Mexican naval ship in Brooklyn." So, I had to look. But then I

  • 2:26:04

    understood that this was something that they they knew this was some part of some uh display. And it was cool. I'm

  • 2:26:11

    waiting to hear what your man Big T say. It was cool after that. At first I thought this was some BS. Going to say

  • 2:26:17

    some dumb [ __ ] Are you waiting for it? He going to say I already know it's coming. Told you he

  • 2:26:22

    going to say some stupid [ __ ] But we shouldn't beat him to it. No, I'm saying he's an idiot. No, I No, the first thing

  • 2:26:28

    I I was uh away. But they said that basically the the somehow it lost power.

  • 2:26:34

    But they said that's similar to what happened with the other boat down in Maryland. Like the [ __ ] lost power. So,

  • 2:26:39

    you know, my conspiracy theory brain started running wild. But, you know, prayers to those people, but that [ __ ] is crazy and it's mad scary. Some Final

  • 2:26:46

    Destination type [ __ ] That's why dead ass. You know what I'm saying? Like, that [ __ ] was scary. That was petrifying

  • 2:26:52

    seeing some people fall in the actual water. You know, Yeah. I was scared for

  • 2:26:57

    the bridge, too, at first, but then that's a good point. Yo, the Maryland [ __ ] the bridge fell, right? You know what I'm saying? So, that's a whole

  • 2:27:03

    different ball game. Imagine what New York would have been like if that bridge would have fallen or something. Brooklyn

  • 2:27:08

    Bridge. Yo, dog, we talking about gridlock. Like the the cuz I think the tractor trailers go over to Brooklyn.

  • 2:27:14

    They go over all I don't think they could go over the Manhattan Bridge. Oh, maybe that's true. I think the trucks or some [ __ ] can't go over the Manhattan

  • 2:27:20

    Bridge. So, it would have [ __ ] up all the New York traffic. Like Eastern Seabore traffic, courier, uh uh package

  • 2:27:27

    goods, all of that [ __ ] moving across. That [ __ ] would have been catastrophic, way more than it already was. Prayers go

  • 2:27:33

    out. Prayers go out to everybody that uh was affected by that boat crash. The people that lost their lives, the people

  • 2:27:40

    that had to hang off of the thingamajiggy. So that that was that was super disturbing to see. Hopefully we

  • 2:27:47

    don't have a summer of seeing super disturbing [ __ ] like this. I feel like we just keep seeing [ __ ] we shouldn't be

  • 2:27:53

    seeing. Word. I've been saying that for a few pods now, but yeah, real disturbing. Well, since we're sending

  • 2:27:59

    prayers out, uh Joe Biden, former President Joe Biden, uh has been

  • 2:28:05

    diagnosed, they announced with cancer, prostate cancer, a stage four

  • 2:28:11

    aggressive, they said, very aggressive stage four uh cancer of prostate, which

  • 2:28:17

    I got to say, I have some thoughts about, but in terms of the timing of it, but in general, again, I just it I I don't wish

  • 2:28:24

    that on anybody. I don't wish that on anybody. I'm not a Joe Biden fan, but I when it get comes to the medical part

  • 2:28:29

    and the health part and the life part, he loved people. People love him. I hope he's okay. But that it was just shocking

  • 2:28:35

    to me that you could be the president of the United States and get to stage four without

  • 2:28:41

    as the president of the United States. Yeah, as the president of the United States. I guess that makes sense cuz they have to do the health check thing

  • 2:28:46

    every year, whatever. Yeah, I guess. He ran for office in January. He ran for office last year. Like, so I was going to say it's a weird time to look for a

  • 2:28:52

    conspiracy, but I guess that makes sense. No, that's it. And I don't know if it's I mean, I think it's just I I just wonder if he just didn't want to

  • 2:28:58

    tell us right away. You know, that's possible. I I didn't believe and don't believe that they just found out about

  • 2:29:03

    that. Not at all. Prostate is slow. That's the other thing. Prostate cancer is not one of them cancers that like it's not like thyroid where you can you

  • 2:29:09

    can look up and you got you get the stage four right away. Pancreatic or something. Yeah. You can you can get pancreat better example. You guys know

  • 2:29:15

    all the cancers. Well, my my dad had prostate cancer. My aunt just passed away from pancreat. Neither one of you had to take it down. What? No, I'm just

  • 2:29:20

    saying. No, no, I don't. [ __ ] you feel bad for you feel bad for the When [ __ ] talk about their

  • 2:29:27

    family, you don't feel bad, right, Joe? Joe is a monster. You just asked me to warm up the set. When [ __ ] talk about

  • 2:29:32

    their family, you don't feel bad. I do feel bad. We crazy. Don't make no jokes. That's why I don't that but that don't make a joke. That is the joke. But just

  • 2:29:39

    so you know, that is the joke that I feel so bad that when people do it, it's like a buzz kill. It's like, oh, I feel

  • 2:29:45

    bad. That is the joke. All right, I'm making sure I'm checking your temperature. Yeah, probably check my temperature, homeboy. Well, what?

  • 2:29:53

    You trying to turn me out. I ain't turn a peaceful, cool father. He said, "You can't check my temperature. You

  • 2:29:59

    trying to turn me out. Turn me up." No, he know I'm trying to I heard out. I'm

  • 2:30:04

    with you. I'm with you. Yeah. Did sound like was in the gym the other day. I got that 225. Uh I

  • 2:30:11

    saw for me, man. I saw you put the picture of the weights on the on the Instagram. I thought we didn't see you

  • 2:30:17

    video. We didn't see I only saw it. You can show us. You don't think I'm lying? You can show us. Wait, hold up. For

  • 2:30:23

    real. Not true. Wait, hold up. You can show us before Patreon. Just show us. Just show us. That's it. That's cool.

  • 2:30:29

    No way. You think I'm telling a fib? I do. Well, that settles that. Now you got to

  • 2:30:36

    do it. You can show us. I believe you, Joe. Y'all think y'all got friends that lie about like Yes. [ __ ] like that? I

  • 2:30:43

    got family members that do it. My family is going to do it. But y'all think y'all friends You pick your friends. Y'all

  • 2:30:49

    think y'all have friends that lie about [ __ ] like that? Oh man. See, I Yes, I I

  • 2:30:55

    do. I do. Um but and y'all think I'm one of those people. I don't I think you did it. I don't think that cuz I think you

  • 2:31:00

    know somebody would test you on it and I don't think he did it right. Wait to lie and then take a pick. Well, you think it

  • 2:31:09

    like four times and then you did it. I think [ __ ] sleep on did it four times. Four one set. Oh, I'm about to say.

  • 2:31:17

    Yeah, but no, four times. Yeah, you did four reps. Yeah, four reps. Something I should have. You did four reps to 225.

  • 2:31:23

    Why you shouldn't have did it, [ __ ] I just didn't feel like I should have done all that. Cuz I'm not in there keeping

  • 2:31:30

    count. I got a trainer, so I just do whatever he said. But not just that. You've been working out for a couple weeks now, so you're getting stronger.

  • 2:31:35

    You know what? Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold up. Hold up. Cuz we we addressing Would you just be lying? Read

  • 2:31:42

    this. I got that [ __ ] up about 10 times. So,

  • 2:31:47

    I'm hyped. Four sets. Yeah. Multiple sets.

  • 2:31:53

    Four times. Two reps per set. That's 16. 16. Wait, let me ask a very basic question. How many times did 225 lbs go

  • 2:32:00

    from Joe? How many times overall did he lift 225? 12. 12. Okay. Okay then. All right. 12 maybe more. That's impressive

  • 2:32:06

    from where you were last time we saw you. Let's go see, [ __ ] I want to see. I want to see. I'm proud of you though.

  • 2:32:12

    The more you go to the gym, yo, you're not a weak dude already. Lift last time with us. Bench press with us.

  • 2:32:19

    Oh [ __ ] Oh, okay. You said you wanted in last time. That's all. Okay. I'll do

  • 2:32:24

    one more. You're back to your skinny self, too. Yo. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody was kind of brick last year. Yeah. Clothes

  • 2:32:31

    is kind of [ __ ] No, I'm not dissing.

  • 2:32:36

    Nobody compliment. You summertime ready last year, bro. Yeah. Yeah. You look

  • 2:32:43

    great, man. Yeah. You ready for the summer? Um, what else? What else? What else? What else is there? What else is there? What else is going on out there?

  • 2:32:50

    Uh, any exciting summer news? Hey, [ __ ] Memorial. The Memorial Day weekend. That [ __ ] is crazy. Memorial Day weekend.

  • 2:32:57

    It's this weekend. It's the least eventful Memorial Day ever. Who's doing something? I need a barbecue to go to.

  • 2:33:02

    I'm pulling up somewhere. Yeah. I thought you and your wife was going to do something. I was going to try to come to y'all [ __ ] Don't yo, I will see. I

  • 2:33:09

    do I don't need none of y'all [ __ ] to show up. Invite me. I'd be great. If I get invited, I'll come on. Why don't you invite some [ __ ]

  • 2:33:17

    I hate y'all. Cuz you like invite. But I want to see what the house look like. I keep seeing the I keep seeing the little

  • 2:33:23

    night school room. Yo, listen to why [ __ ] walk. I want to crib, the driveway, the

  • 2:33:31

    moldings. I got to come. I just want to come look around judge you. No, I have a very

  • 2:33:36

    small I have a very small amount of house. You would not be impressed with my house. Um, I'm impressed. I know how much your house cost and it's

  • 2:33:42

    impressive. I know where your house at. That's enough. I know how much it cost. You can say that [ __ ] It's not a big

  • 2:33:48

    house. I promise you. I said I know how much it cost. And you say it's not a big house. Yeah.

  • 2:33:54

    Sometimes you pay for the neighborhood, not for the house. That is true. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. I paid for I prioritized location over size.

  • 2:34:00

    Location, location, location. I prioritize location. I don't I didn't want a huge house. All right. So, what time you What day you doing something?

  • 2:34:06

    We might do something Monday. You me ass. You know, I got to get permission. I ain't going to lie. This [ __ ] so full of [ __ ] Yo, I don't have any plans for

  • 2:34:13

    these [ __ ] going to show up. No, you full of [ __ ] You full of [ __ ] [ __ ] I How many square feet is your house? Um,

  • 2:34:18

    I don't know. You do know, [ __ ] [ __ ] you think lot.

  • 2:34:24

    I I'll show you the how. I I don't I don't know. The reason I don't know is because it was it was renovated. You've

  • 2:34:29

    said this on air, you know, many. And I realiz And I realized that when I did that before, I had miscalculated a bit.

  • 2:34:35

    How much you said before? What' you say? How much? I don't remember. This is a old episode, man. You just said you remember when you did it. I remember

  • 2:34:41

    that when I did it, I miscalculated cuz afterward I did some What was your calculation back then? I don't recall. I do. Oliver North.

  • 2:34:49

    It's okay. I got you. What else you got? Moving right along. Oh man. So, nobody

  • 2:34:57

    has any Memorial Day weekend plans. I'll be upstate. Nope. N. You going upstate? Yeah. How about you, Flip? Y'all should

  • 2:35:03

    do something. Oh, you going don't you got one carnivals or something? What carnival? Who

  • 2:35:09

    y'all? What you people? That's what you people do. You people. Hey yo, listen.

  • 2:35:16

    Yeah, I I may I may I may go away for a little bit. You know what I'm saying? I'll figure it out, man. But it it does it doesn't matter. You should Oh, you

  • 2:35:22

    know what? I'm being Brooklyn has something. Every year the band festivals in Brooklyn, they have a street They have a street festival. Festival. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right. Right. Across from

  • 2:35:29

    my old crib in Brooklyn. Yeah. Let's Let's move. Yeah. I get it with you, man. Yeah, I see what I'm doing. Right,

  • 2:35:35

    man. Yeah, you got right out of that [ __ ] I saw what you did. No, I'm just saying. Watch your [ __ ] mind about

  • 2:35:41

    Caribbeans, too, [ __ ] Yeah, there's no car people. Yo, stop. This is the trouble. I know

  • 2:35:48

    you on your Adolf [ __ ] Your FBA [ __ ] Don't start that cuz if I say something, they attack me. [ __ ] I can't I can't hold it down. Do please. How did you say

  • 2:35:55

    Adolf? Adolf. [ __ ] [ __ ] with an S. [ __ ] The AOF. No. You don't American

  • 2:36:04

    descendants of slaves. Okay. You'll never find these people in a

  • 2:36:13

    Yo yo get

  • 2:36:18

    Oh [ __ ] Yo, y [ __ ] is disrespectful. Stop.

  • 2:36:25

    Don't look this way. They going get y'all [ __ ] They go get y'all. Oh [ __ ] All right. All right. Well, that was our Memorial Day weekend breakdown.

  • 2:36:31

    There you go. I mean, there you go. Mad informative. Racist at the same time.

  • 2:36:39

    Oh, man. Yo, Joe, why don't you do something? You used to have great parties. That's why I

  • 2:36:45

    don't anymore. He old now, [ __ ] Oh, [ __ ] Oh, that's why I don't. [ __ ] got the He got the one v one spot. I did.

  • 2:36:51

    They were legend. I used to I used to want an invite. I did it for too long. M

  • 2:36:56

    like I was the kickback house for Mhm. ever.

  • 2:37:02

    So it's over now. Now now I like my piece. You sure? Yes. Think I don't

  • 2:37:09

    think you I think you can't do it the same like you used to. That's what it is. So now you just masking with I'm

  • 2:37:15

    older. [ __ ] you just can't do it the same. You're going to be allowed to. Maybe. Maybe not. Yeah. Acknowledge

  • 2:37:20

    that. You ain't got to do nothing. You don't clean. You don't cook. You your You people I mean you get all the [ __ ] managed. So it's really do you wouldn't

  • 2:37:26

    be around that many people in your house? I clean and cook. But saying you don't have to. You So you can do the

  • 2:37:32

    kickback without having labor. I've had not trying to be funny. I've had I know you clean. You You clean. I've had

  • 2:37:38

    kickbacks where I say that. I I had the man the grill until somebody else showed up. It wasn't the greatest. I didn't I

  • 2:37:44

    didn't know that part. That [ __ ] is annoying. I've been the guy that forget it. I ain't getting in there. If you're

  • 2:37:49

    throwing the kickback, it's a lot of work. It's a lot of work. It's a lot of work. I got it. in my 40s when I was

  • 2:37:54

    getting all the liquor. Even if you get there, it's a lot of [ __ ] to do. Period. Even if you get a catered, you still got to manage all that. A lot of [ __ ] That's true. Like the setup is a pain in

  • 2:38:01

    the ass. Day of you have a little more fun. But the planning is a pain. You don't believe they have much fun. Day of

  • 2:38:06

    invite the people you invited, the people you didn't invite, the people that came came to your block and pissed

  • 2:38:12

    all over the neighbor's lawn dealing with the police uh because

  • 2:38:17

    there's a [ __ ] microscope on your house cuz you had all the [ __ ] parties. Not enough people showing up. Too many people showing up. You know

  • 2:38:24

    what I mean? People not leaving. When you say leave, that's the worst. Both of them want to stay. Uh pe people coming

  • 2:38:30

    with slides trying to wait each other out, right? People coming with slides that's

  • 2:38:38

    ready to rock. So now they hound you. Yo, I need a room. She's ready to rock.

  • 2:38:43

    Can I go in your room? No. Like guess I've had enough of

  • 2:38:49

    guests invites all that kickback [ __ ] Nah. So it's done for good or you just need a break? Well, it's not done for

  • 2:38:57

    good if Yo, what are y'all doing? He talking about those were the

  • 2:39:03

    days. It's not done for good if you count like my birthday party. Got you. But that's still not going to be at the

  • 2:39:08

    crib. It won't be at my house. You no more crib. I'm There'll never be anything at my house again. Shouldn't have no at home. That's so much nice

  • 2:39:15

    [ __ ] in your crib now. Now today. Yeah. [ __ ] [ __ ] I feel that. Sorry. My barber was

  • 2:39:21

    in my house the other day. He looked at the little beautiful little steel sculpture I got over there. He's like,

  • 2:39:26

    "Yo, man. I'm redecorating my my shop." Thinking about getting some

  • 2:39:31

    [ __ ] He He cutting too. He like So, I'm thinking about getting some [ __ ] That

  • 2:39:36

    [ __ ] you got right there and over there like fly if you don't mind. Like how

  • 2:39:42

    much it cost? Like so. So I tried to save him early. No, you don't. You said it in your You

  • 2:39:48

    said in your most modest. No, first you try to get out of I told him this is art. You don't want to know and it's not

  • 2:39:56

    important. Try to get away from me first. Try to become off pompous. Of course. And he said, "No, that's

  • 2:40:02

    pompous. That's the pompus [ __ ] You don't want to know. It's not important." Right. Exactly. That's po. No, you have

  • 2:40:09

    to differentiate between decor and art collection. I would have told that [ __ ] the price ballark. No. No. He said, "No,

  • 2:40:16

    for real, man." Like, "All right. Was it five band?" And you started laughing. I did

  • 2:40:22

    what you doing. Look, I almost got you almost [ __ ] my hair up. You lucky you got me right. I said, "Yo, man. Don't

  • 2:40:30

    even worry about it, man. Just go play with something."

  • 2:40:35

    Is it a nonpr? Yeah. Oh, man. I don't know how how that came up. That's your That's your non-pompus without you. How

  • 2:40:42

    you answer that? But without being like I said, you got to differentiate this. No, he said that to me. Yeah. I'll be

  • 2:40:49

    like, "Bro, that [ __ ] was too much." Or I say something like that. Like, yo, too much. Yo, that No, I'm saying for me like some stupid [ __ ] I did. You know

  • 2:40:56

    what I mean? Like, my girl made me do it. Some dumb [ __ ] And they keep pressing. I'll be like, "Yeah, that's

  • 2:41:01

    not going to turn a [ __ ] away from want to know the price." I mean, like, see, one to know, round a buck, round 80. And

  • 2:41:06

    you guys say like around 70. You get a little one for about 55. Want to know the price of

  • 2:41:12

    things can be really really fun or not

  • 2:41:18

    so much demoralizing. Humbling [ __ ] Yeah. Feel like a pe the whole [ __ ] chest. I go to the Louis store the other

  • 2:41:25

    day looking for slides. I ain't looking for [ __ ] I caught caught the slides in

  • 2:41:31

    every color, too. But I ain't looking for [ __ ] She looking for something, you know. Mother's Day gift.

  • 2:41:41

    Yo, I don't know how we got there, but Okay. Okay, I guess.

  • 2:41:47

    Yo, did we have Hey, what did y'all get your girls for Mother's Day? Keep going. Is it just me? Mine got returned. So,

  • 2:41:54

    your gift got returned. She did. Yeah. I don't care. Oh, she returned it. Yeah. Yeah. Now, let me ask you. When she did

  • 2:42:00

    the return, did you get return? Where did the money go? Oh, you Well, prior to the gift she

  • 2:42:07

    wanted. Yeah, for the gift she wanted. I had to get something different. Plus, plus a penalty for choosing

  • 2:42:13

    wrong. Got to pay a bonus. You got to pay a taxy. I got a card love bracelet, but this just wasn't her her thing. And

  • 2:42:20

    cuz supposed to be like for me and me and my son. Yeah. Not so much.

  • 2:42:27

    So that little red box went back idiot. Yo. Yeah. Not so much. They

  • 2:42:34

    got So anyway, so we go in Louis and the guy says, "First of all, you got to know

  • 2:42:40

    somebody even going in there now. You can't just go in there and look around no more. It's over. Scammers done." But

  • 2:42:46

    anyway, the guy says, "Hey man, you want to go to the fifth floor?"

  • 2:42:51

    Of course she wants to go to the fifth floor. What's on the fifth floor? Don't even matter. God, he said some furniture.

  • 2:43:00

    Huh? And I said, "Oh Lord, I don't need no furniture." But then I thought about it again and I said, "You know what? I

  • 2:43:08

    definitely want to go to the fifth floor to see some Louis Vuitton furniture." He said, "It's brand new. We just opened

  • 2:43:14

    the fifth floor. We just started. We just started selling furniture." Now, that's all prep talk, by the way.

  • 2:43:21

    That's all to let you know. This [ __ ] is going to crack you, right? But go ahead. So, I go in there. Apparently, Forel

  • 2:43:27

    done did some [ __ ] for real done designed some [ __ ] And I skipped the couches. He's like, "Oh, it's the

  • 2:43:33

    couches. There tables." We do need new couches. It's a Superfly. Not from there. We don't. It's a Superfly record

  • 2:43:39

    player in like the next room. Okay. When I tell you that [ __ ] is standing. It's

  • 2:43:44

    beige. Same color as all my [ __ ] in my crib. It got some futuristic funky design. I might have to find a picture

  • 2:43:51

    for you [ __ ] It was beautiful. And I was about to just walk away, but I

  • 2:43:57

    couldn't. I had to see how much it cost. You had to. So I looked at the dingamajiggy and

  • 2:44:04

    you guessed it, $150,000. Sheesh for the Farel Louie

  • 2:44:11

    record player. [ __ ] I said, "Yo, dog. Do y'all have a record store? Where where you getting vinyl?"

  • 2:44:19

    No, it's way better than that. It look futuristic. Oh, the trunk [ __ ] The trunk? You talking about the trunk [ __ ]

  • 2:44:25

    that played the records? Oh, no. It wasn't the trunk. It looked like some space capsule. It look nuts right here.

  • 2:44:30

    Look up the Forel Lou. Uh, it say for real. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. It's fine.

  • 2:44:37

    Yeah, go ahead. I'll tell my girl to find it. But anyway, that's what I mean about that price check and [ __ ] She know I ain't getting no

  • 2:44:43

    $150,000. Please. I'm in the button seats. That's true. I'm in the button seat. I ain't playing like that. You

  • 2:44:49

    crazy. Anyway, shout to y'all out there that's buying Louis Vuitton furniture. Sure. I don't

  • 2:44:56

    know. Not I Mhm. Not I, said the captain. Uh, what else is there? What else is there that's important,

  • 2:45:01

    unimportant? Uh, I see Salt and Pepper written up there. Yeah, they're suing um

  • 2:45:07

    Universal UMG basically because their music was supposed to come back to them after it's

  • 2:45:13

    30 years 30 35 years and then music didn't come back and then they're saying UMG took everything off of streaming

  • 2:45:19

    which is basically now devaluing it while holding up to give it back to them. So, they're suing try to get their

  • 2:45:24

    [ __ ] back. Good for them. First of all, did they resolve their issue? Is it salt, pepper, and spin or is it salt and

  • 2:45:30

    pepper? Yeah, they was beefing with Spinderella for a while. I don't know. So, I'm just wondering, this is interesting. At first, they had the internal thing and not external thing.

  • 2:45:35

    I'm glad they're fighting Universal. I I want every artist to fight Universal and all these other big majors cuz they,

  • 2:45:41

    everybody has the same complaints. The audit show different things. Forensic accounting shows something different. They don't, you know, do what they say

  • 2:45:47

    they're going to do after 30 years or 25 years. Good for them. I hope they get every dollar they deserve, man. I love Salt and Pepper and Spin. Shout out to

  • 2:45:53

    all of them. Yeah, word. Shout out to Salt and Pepper. Spin and spin. Spin and trash. Bumped in the trash the other

  • 2:45:59

    night. Spin was He was doing all right. Spin was the one. Spin was spin. Your

  • 2:46:05

    mother. You mumbled when we was little. Spin was the one. She's She's beautiful. Oh, that's what you're saying. Oh, no. Spin's beautiful. Spin the re there. Um,

  • 2:46:12

    I don't have anything else that I need to get to. Uh, Joey dropped again, right? Yes. Yes, he did. Got busy from

  • 2:46:20

    from Ice's account. I'm I don't really need nobody to respond to it. Uses your mind over there listening to yo this

  • 2:46:26

    [ __ ] he he took the he took a west coast like flip rhyme like them addressed all of

  • 2:46:33

    the [ __ ] that they just said in these records that just came out a day ago. Like it's kind of like put the [ __ ]

  • 2:46:39

    to bed at this point. And I know I just said earlier in the show that for the [ __ ] to keep going, but

  • 2:46:45

    now I I'm cool. I don't know what y'all can do to top that record because now I jumped over here on y'all [ __ ] and

  • 2:46:51

    absolutely smoked it. And again, back to what y'all was saying. You can hear the money difference. You can hear it in the

  • 2:46:57

    the clarity of the production. You can just hear I spent something to get this even made real quick. And y'all really

  • 2:47:04

    can't [ __ ] with me. But the record is hard though. Yeah, I'm going to listen to it soon. Yeah, I got to check it out.

  • 2:47:10

    It's called Crash Dummies. Crash cuz because Rayvon keeps referring to himself as a crash crash dummy. Oh,

  • 2:47:16

    yeah. No, you're a crash dummy. Uh, that is pretty funny. Um, all right. I ain't

  • 2:47:22

    got nothing else going on, man. I ain't got nothing else popping. Let me see. Let me see. Let me

  • 2:47:27

    see. Actually, that's not true. I'm seeing a lot of rumors floating around about Justin Bieber being broke. I don't

  • 2:47:34

    think that's the case. Yeah. How would you know? That's hard, dog. He's had a lot of successful records, bro. That's

  • 2:47:41

    why this rumor popping up is a thing. They're saying that he owes Scooter Brawn in amounts of money that he owes

  • 2:47:48

    somebody else. I could find it, but it's like 30, 40, 50, and 60 million. Jesus. They keep showing pictures of him

  • 2:47:56

    not looking the greatest. I don't know cuz I'm not in his business. But it wouldn't be the first time that we've

  • 2:48:01

    heard somebody go broke that we didn't think should be going broke that fast. I don't think it's fast. Very fast. Is he

  • 2:48:08

    like 30? How is he 30? How's that fast, bro? [ __ ] just had a monster album

  • 2:48:13

    seven, eight years ago, [ __ ] That Purpose album was eight, nine years ago. That was a great album, by the way. The

  • 2:48:18

    album was [ __ ] amazing. And he had an album after that. He's 31. The Purpose one was my [ __ ] but he had an album

  • 2:48:24

    after that. I think Justin Bieber has been out long enough to be going broke. If he were going broke, he'd been out

  • 2:48:30

    long enough. But it's certainly about his pockets.

  • 2:48:36

    Yeah. Yeah, I would be shocked. I would be shocked as well. I don't know about probable, but it's possible. It's

  • 2:48:41

    definitely possible. He could have gambling. He could he could have gambling problems. Like, we don't know his personals. You know what I'm saying?

  • 2:48:48

    But just be just doing a quick a quick search. Again, not doing any deep research. His estimated net worth was at

  • 2:48:54

    300 million. So, and again, that's obviously if he you got gambling issues

  • 2:48:59

    or you owe a lot of debt or that's not real money all the time, but that just seems such a big gap between the rumor is that he sold some of his publishing

  • 2:49:07

    catalog. Yeah, that he sold some of his catalog cuz he was down really really really really bad. And again, I know

  • 2:49:13

    that that's subjective, but broke just mean more going out this

  • 2:49:18

    than is coming in, right? Oh, that's possible. He hasn't put out a record in a while. But yeah, he might not be super

  • 2:49:24

    liquid. I mean, that happens. Yeah, it's a lot of crack, bro. Lose 300, you got to have a different type of smoking

  • 2:49:31

    problem. The [ __ ] we talking about crack, bro.

  • 2:49:38

    What? How much is crack right now? How much? I don't know. How much is crack today? Let me go check the stock.

  • 2:49:46

    The price is up and down like it's Wall Street. It's been a bit It's been a while. Breaking

  • 2:49:52

    news. Kid Cuy is set to testify in Diddy's federal trial this week. Oh

  • 2:49:58

    [ __ ] This nigga's going free, man. Old enough kid cut it. Yeah,

  • 2:50:04

    everybody they load early. I'm way too done cuz I

  • 2:50:09

    ain't cuz I ain't we said anything out here now. They shooting they load. I think they double down

  • 2:50:15

    all over the nipple or whatever. Yo, freedom. Freedom. Freedom.

  • 2:50:26

    That [ __ ] singing sound like Jeno. Stop.

  • 2:50:31

    That sound [ __ ] you might even talk about. Why y'all didn't appreciate I thought that was a I thought that was a soundtrack. Remember when [ __ ] took Vin

  • 2:50:38

    Reigns took a [ __ ] off Rosewood when he lift himself up and cut the rope? Yeah. That sound like the lead single off the Rosewood soundtrack right there.

  • 2:50:50

    Got the knife out of his boot. He pulled himself

  • 2:50:56

    out. Yo, that [ __ ] sound like the black version of And I guess that's why they

  • 2:51:02

    call it the strip it now. Everybody go grab Be

  • 2:51:08

    Good. Uh, and Liquid Spirit is on sale. I'm good. I'm good. Get be good. Get

  • 2:51:13

    Liquid Spirit. Two of the great albums. Uh, I'm only take it to the alley. Three of his best albums. Amazing albums.

  • 2:51:19

    Again, never hear them. If it ain't on sale, I ain't coping it. This I ain't [ __ ] up. That's just It's not for me.

  • 2:51:26

    And I take you to that. And I guess that's why they call it the blues.

  • 2:51:33

    Mark be playing some. All right, let me see. I don't even know where to go after

  • 2:51:39

    Gregory Ford did that [ __ ] Shout out to Gregory Porter. Sorry. I'm not trying to be funny. Gregory Porter. I'm not trying

  • 2:51:45

    to be funny. Grammy awardw winning vocalist Gregory Porter. We love you, man. [ __ ] More. You got some John John

  • 2:51:51

    Legend there or something. More won a Grammy.

  • 2:51:56

    Oh, he going to [ __ ] you up. Oh my god. See y'all [ __ ] too. Oh my god. Heard

  • 2:52:02

    that [ __ ] you said on your show, [ __ ] All right. Holy. No, he's not. That's

  • 2:52:07

    what I'm trying to say. Oh, what day is this? Great show, y'all. Indeed. July.

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    [Music] I can't wait to talk to y'all.

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    Yo, when this broadcast end, hit that button. I cannot wait to talk to y'all

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    in private. Hey, hit the 1.5 button. Do nothing. Just sit there. Yeah. Yeah.

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    Don't do Don't grab that. Don't grab nothing. Don't run the Patreon either. My talk ain't going to be on Patreon.

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    It ain't going to be nowhere where you can find it. YouTube at all. Sorry y'all.

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    Oh my lord. Come on. Get us out of here. Yeah, I'm trying. I'm trying. Yo, pray for everybody. Till next

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    time, keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need a yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada. Life is a yada yada yada

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    yada. And lastly, the baddies yada yada yada yada yada.

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    Oh man. Anybody do anything exciting this week? Just had enough on this weekend, man.

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    All right. Saving your energy for the weekend. Use up all energy and saving some for next weekend. I'm saving mine

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    for the weekend. We baby free, you know. All right. All right. Fire. You know you I'm hitting Brooklyn on the weekend.

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    That's it for that Memorial Day [ __ ] Memorial Day [ __ ] I'm be out there. I'm going come out there and [ __ ] with you.

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    Me and J. Me and J. Me and J will catch you outside. This is a bet. Um I ain't doing [ __ ] It's Vincent's

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    birthday party on Saturday. It's like [Laughter]

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    that [ __ ] look crazy. I don't care, boss. I don't care. You know we can hear you. I don't give a

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    [ __ ] Don't post [ __ ] with [ __ ] to see in real time. Watch. All right, I'm done. Defend this

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    [ __ ] again, boy. I'm officially done. Okay, flip. You're done, too. Don't say another word till this broadcast ends.

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    Please. Please. I'll say please. I'm being polite. What do you mean I'm done? No. I'm fired.

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    [Music] Twice. You always try to get fired the moment

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    when you sign your new contract. You always try it. Y'all hold it down, man. Hopefully y'all enjoyed this broadcast

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    as much as we have enjoyed delivering it to you. Y'all hold it down out there. Shout out to all the kids getting ready

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    for graduation. Graduation is coming up. I know my little brother graduates next week. Uh I think prom is coming up, too.

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    Graduates from what? It is high school. I went to a graduation this weekend. I'll be moving, bro. Yeah. What? What?

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    My my little brother's graduating from high school next week.

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    Why look what happened? Hold up. What little brother? Answ what am I missing? That's [ __ ]

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    That's Wait. Ethan and Anthony graduate from high school. [ __ ] man. I thought them little [ __ ] is like ninth grade.

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    What? Yeah, bro. We old, [ __ ] We are ass, my [ __ ] We old. It's okay. What? Um,

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    yeah. So, shout out to all the kids again. Shout out to everybody participating in youth athletics. Wow.

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    Wow. Shout out to all the NIL agents out there. Wow. I'm pocket watching. Yes.

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    Wow. Um, who else I want to shout out? Shout out uh shout out to Duff. Uh,

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    shout out to Duff. Just cuz. Prayers to Duff. Uh, who else? Who else? Uh, I want to shout out Mona. Prayers to Mona.

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    Mona, don't call me white girl. Should be here on Friday. Oh, should be here on Friday to pay us a visit. Nice. That's

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    Philly. Philly stand up. I love her. Oh yeah, we absolutely love the friend of the show. Friend of the show. Shout out

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    that trainer that got you benching 225. Shout out to Donnie, man. Shout out to my trainer as well, man. Trying to get

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    this summer body right. My brother is inspired me. Just trying to get right. That's it. That's it. We about to go

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    downstairs and watch it happen. Right, Flip? Yes, sir. Well, no. You said you believed me. He didn't.

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    So now I'm I'm lifting for Flip. I'm lifting something for Flip. I I'm not worth the lift. Actually, I wouldn't

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    mind going to get a little stretch anyway. Do it. Am I worth? I wouldn't mind going to get a little stretch. I need I need to lift. I've been nursing.

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    [Music] No, no, no.

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    JBP JBP. Where would you be without the JBP?

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    Who is that? [ __ ] [ __ ] New job.

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    [Music]