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Episode 830

Stupid Seeds Grow Stupid Plants feat. Jozzy

Joe Budden Podcast Episode 830, “Stupid Seeds Grow Stupid Plants feat. Jozzy,” released June 2, 2025. The latest episode of the JBP kicks off with QueenzFlip’s thoughts on the new HBO documentary ‘Pee-wee as Himself’ (22:08) before the room turns to Offset demanding spousal support in a new divorce case filing (30:34). In new music Clipse drops a single for their upcoming album ‘Let God Sort Em Out’ (1:02:56), Donald Trump is continuing to pardon people (1:13:29), and Tory Lanez legal team continues to push for his freedom (1:25:53). Also, Memphis’ own singer/songwriter Jozzy joins the crew (1:43:33) to talk about her new music and her early love for Melyssa Ford, leaving P. Diddy’s label, her inspirations, the need for songwriters, ‘StagePlay 2 Get Her Back’, and much more! Full transcript and searchable timestamps below.

Stupid Seeds Grow Stupid Plants feat. Jozzy

In this episode

  • 22:08The latest episode of the JBP kicks off with QueenzFlip’s thoughts on the new HBO documentary ‘Pee-wee as Hims…
  • 30:34Before the room turns to Offset demanding spousal support in a new divorce case filing
  • 1:02:56In new music Clipse drops a single for their upcoming album ‘Let God Sort Em Out’
  • 1:13:29Donald Trump is continuing to pardon people
  • 1:25:53Tory Lanez legal team continues to push for his freedom
  • 1:43:33Memphis’ own singer/songwriter Jozzy joins the crew
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Joe Budden Podcast Ep. 830 Transcript

Full transcript of Stupid Seeds Grow Stupid Plants feat. Jozzy (2:57:12 long). Search it, or click any timestamp to jump to that moment.

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    The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast whose bulleted hosts are for entertainment purposes

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    only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing,

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    indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage

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    you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interest at heart or our

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    own. Enjoy the show. Bro, take

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    your pause. Take the sickness out your mouth. That's a body. Whoa. Whoa. Same. That's worse. Don't mention my mouth.

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    But that's worse though. Take the sickness out your body. I'm going to do that is I said you cannot do that. You said how do I make up getting y'all

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    sick? Audience, Ice and Ish are saying that I got them sick. You did. You did

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    when I came in here last part sick. I said it on Tuesday, didn't I? Now, in their

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    defense, they right. I shouldn't have been here. Flip told me

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    I shouldn't have been here, but I love the job so much, man. It's my dedication. It's my gift and a curse

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    sometimes. And you cursed me out. Yeah. Yeah. You said that some fly [ __ ] to me,

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    too. I ain't like that. Your tone, it don't be what you say. You be right. But your tone when you speak to [ __ ] you

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    can't talk to me like that. I didn't mean to, man. I was just saying

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    kettle. What the [ __ ] bro? He going to make a joke about how I

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    can't be him. I'm not making no joke. They they they misrepresented me. I don't never talk to y'all in in no type of way like that in real life. [ __ ]

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    that y'all annoy me in real life. In real life, we was not recording. In real life, I'm saying yes. Yes. Joe, me and

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    you have had these arguments that we have here in real life based on your mouth. I don't talk I don't Yo,

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    you said I don't speak to you in a way or Ice where I feel like one of y'all

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    should do something to me. You know what the most important thing you said? You talk to me in a way where you feel he

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    ain't feel like that. How many times you want to punch me in my face? You just want to say something to you in real life. At least 50% of the time, right?

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    So you want to punch me in my face, but I'm a little bit. But no, it ain't that's what I'm saying. Freeze parks.

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    Not in real life. You get crazy. I ain't going to lie out the mouth balls. I just told you to get

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    out of here. You got some big brother [ __ ] with Flip though. In real life or no? In real life. You don't want to hear it from him. No, I'm saying does that to

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    you in real life or no? Yes. Yes. Cuz I' I've never been around y'all. It's their dynamic though. It is. It's a big

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    brother, little brother. It is. No, Flip is Joe. You think I be trying to big bro Flip? I don't think you try to big bro

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    him. I just think that y'all have like that that big brother little brother thing where if he says some [ __ ] to you,

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    it's like now shut the [ __ ] up and he barks back. It's it it feels very civilized with me too much. He told me

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    this in the beginning of the year as far as the power thing, the power dynamic

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    you're going to lose in me. And I think that plays into his mind. I was simply telling him, yo, we are happy here. Just

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    go so we can handle it. Marcus here, let's handle it. He tells me about how he fly and how his presence being here

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    is more important than him being a star. I'm a

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    star podcasting for rent. Oh, that wasn't on camera. No, I thought that I thought So that go against your point

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    cuz that's if it's not on camera then that was real life. That's what I'm saying. He talks to me in real life. No,

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    what you said to him. What you said to him was real life. But he had already said it off. What are you talking about?

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    That's what I'm saying. Response to it. Got it. I got it. I got it. Response. I I accept that.

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    Paul is like, "Oh, I froze." I said, "Oh, this [ __ ] talking in my head." I'm like, "This

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    [ __ ] I saw you. I saw you pro. I could fire back." This [ __ ] took it.

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    I fired back. He asked me a question. Audience, I promise we start soon. He asked me a question. I answered it. I

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    felt like Yeah, but sometimes when you answer things and Mel Mel don't know how to read no room nowhere, so she jumped

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    in [ __ ] swinging. I absolutely read the room. I was happy she jumped in and I was

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    swinging. Abso [ __ ] lutely. Get the [ __ ] out. You're sick. Do you think that that's wise? No, absolutely not. But if

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    I learn anything up here, I know that's Do you think it's No. Do you think it's

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    wise for you to say No. I can't be the only adult up here all the time. I want

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    to be a kid sometimes. [ __ ] that. She don't get to watch. I know. She don't get me. I Mel, I love you. Ice Flip, I

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    apologize for speaking to you that way. Thank you. Flip and uh ish, I

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    apologize for getting y'all sick. And if there's anything I can do to make it make it up or make it better,

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    Z word can't help it. Oh yeah, my son is Stop playing around, man.

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    No, if I can make it up to y'all anyway, please. I will. You can give him some emergencies that are in the I dump I

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    dumped them shits already in my tea. I stopped at Starbucks. Yo, you should go while you're here, cuz I'm a star.

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    That's a [ __ ] He was on [ __ ] He was on [ __ ] I couldn't believe my face points. No. Yeah. No.

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    Yeah. No, he went off. He went off a little bit. You know what you can do for them? And we'll And we'll we'll just end

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    here. What? Big mouth. I mean, you could order

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    them like some some juices and stuff like that. Some like immunity shots, ginger shots. Yeah. Don't promote nobody here.

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    I just happen to know a guy queen. Yeah, we got it. We got it.

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    Mom, I'm trying to help y'all [ __ ] out. Okay, I see the way it is. I'm going to shut the [ __ ] up. Sit here and shut the [ __ ] up. Baron

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    Davis is new and my home girl, the IV Queen. She's right up at the tank show and he's

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    putting some Oh man, that was dope. Um, all right. Was it showed up? Yeah, it

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    was. Oh my god, it was incredible. So, Hell's Kitchen is on Broadway. It's Alicia Keys. Thanks for the invite.

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    Yeah, that's true. I literally told you. I thought you were going, which is nice. And you said you were already going.

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    Y'all have a relationship with Tank. He was g ready to give y'all tickets. I

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    just took advantage of the of the invitation from from Tank. So, you don't know what invite means? Uh, we literally

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    had the conversation. All right, listen. We had the [ __ ] conversation. I think that dog balance shoot is whack. Carry

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    on. Don't play with me. I literally told you the day I was going. You're like, "Yeah, I think I'm going to pull up." And that's different from an invite.

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    It was basic. You know, I'm not talking to you anymore. [ __ ] that. Um, Hell's Kitchen. Tank is now playing um Alicia

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    Keyy's father. He [ __ ] bodied it. He was so [ __ ] good. I'm not surprised.

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    He He was He was so good. He was so funny. And I could tell when he was ad libing and it ju it it just worked

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    perfectly. The show is incredible. It was my second time seeing it. If you haven't seen it, go see it. But his run

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    ends on June 1st. Yeah. So, I don't know if I'll make it. I was at the Beyonce show while you were doing that, which

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    was also absolutely phenomenal. I encourage anybody who hasn't seen Beyonce, it's my first time seeing her

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    live. It uh it you should go. Um, it showed me having just been to the

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    Kendrick Siza stadium tour that there's levels to the stadium tour. [ __ ] Mhm.

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    It was It was a different one. It was a different It was a different one. Point. What you wore, dog? What did I wear? You

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    went out there with the cowboy [ __ ] on. No. [ __ ] no. [ __ ] So, you didn't have chaps on. You look like Billy Bob. I'm

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    going to roast you. If I would have had cowboy clothes, I would have wor I'm going to roast you, y'all. But it was pouring and it was freezing. So it

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    wouldn't have mattered what I wore anyway. You were going to look like [ __ ] at at the show with all the rain. Yeah. Like it was pouring out. Pouring. I was

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    shocked that she continued that show. What was that? Wednesday. She did the car [ __ ] in the rain. They did. Yo, I

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    was so amazed. They had like the mop guys like they have at the garden hitting the hitting the deck every two seconds. But they did full coro. They

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    did the flying in the [ __ ] horseshoe over the crowd. All that [ __ ] Pouring rain. And that's a performance. And she

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    still looked absolutely amazing by the way somehow. Like despite being completely drenched. I don't I don't

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    know what the [ __ ] kind of voodoo was going on there. But when has being completely drenched made someone not look amazing? I mean, you could it could

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    easily cold and rain like that's it's a different It's not like being in the

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    pool by in a tropical thing. So, she's an actual performer. She's incredible. Incredible. And with all the coro that

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    they do. Yeah. Her dancers were fire. Blue was fire. Rain. Yeah. You ever

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    catch a girl that didn't want to be out in the rain and y'all end up in the rain? And you see a melt back to her natural right right in front of you.

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    Beyonce did not melt. See that hair get some of them look good when that hair get

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    [ __ ] the eye shadow start doing doing like the old cats uh Broadway uh logo.

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    Anyway, um I'm glad you had a good time. Yeah, it was incredible. It was incred. She's so good at

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    um her branding, I guess, for lack of a better term. like she speaks to who she speaks to the way she wants to speak to

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    them and it's incredible. Absolutely incredible. All the production, the videos she was doing all the um history

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    of black music, especially like some country [ __ ] It was it was incredible. Wow. She sang the Star Spangled Banner

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    and went into freedom. She did the over the Jimmyi Hendrick [ __ ] but like sang it note fornotee with Jimmy and then

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    Wow. Incredible. It's levels to that [ __ ] It was levels. That's why yo all these full band. She

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    had the band like you could see the band. You know what I'm saying? Oh man. All these st like hearing that just got

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    me ready for when Chris do a stadium tour, bro. Word. Cuz you speak of performers and levels. Oh yeah, that's true. Chris will probably show off. He

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    just put the [ __ ] on Instagram. Say, "Yo, the set list is 50 songs." By the way, the Beyonce show was long. It was like 3 hours. It was not a short show.

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    True. Ain't nothing else to do. You get locked up in England for a week. You might I'mma perform this [ __ ] here. I

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    only do this slap. think he's in there working out coro in the jail cell.

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    Nah, I'm I'm trying to go see that [ __ ] in London. Oh, [ __ ] cousin, man. I don't know

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    that [ __ ] But introduce yourself. How? Call a uncle or something. I somebody.

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    It would have to be a mutual family member to do that. I'm not That's what I'm saying. You got those though. Yeah. But don't be like, "Yo, call." All

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    right. In my family. In my family. That's uh a man Lee. Hey, Aunt Man Lee. Now, Aunt Catherine is a big dog, but a

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    mad Lee put some [ __ ] together with the cousins that just came up to this. Yeah,

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    that's Hey, Mad Lee. Um, hey, who's that person in your family? You don't know

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    his mom? No, my mother knows his mom. There you go. I don't be on that type [ __ ] man. I don't care about that. It's

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    just too cool. If he was if he was 5% entertaining, this [ __ ] would be I'm

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    telling you, his life and how he speak and how he carry If he just had 2% of

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    the entertainment bone, oh my god, you would be out of here. Yo, you're a fool.

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    Jesus. This [ __ ] is entertained as just Yo, you wouldn't do that. He'd be saying, "You would do that." Yeah, I

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    would do that. Hey, wait. Chris Brown with my cousin. [ __ ] I'm calling to get the album.

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    I'm calling to get a bunch of [ __ ] What you working on, dog? I would do that. He got a lot of pride, man. Yeah. It's not

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    about anyway. Yo, it's man [ __ ] dude. No, it's just some awkward [ __ ] You calling some stranger like, "Yo, you

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    know, we related." So, this is very You got to You got to You got to build you got to offer something like, "Yo, I see

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    your your your kitchen looks like it could use some new tiles or something like you need to get rich rich on

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    another level." Exactly. Why you should be soliciting this? going to LA to do the towel. Yeah, [ __ ] it. He's rich.

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    House is nice. You need some towels, [ __ ] you talking word for What is the word? Stop trying to find

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    it. It's cool, dog. I'm all right. It's No, no, no. It's not that. It's

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    like a old cop. It's like rigid like rigidity.

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    Rigidity. Riggity. Yeah, rigidity. Riggity. That's another R word. Oh [ __ ] You you you are

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    rigid in your just ways and your We all are.

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    I don't know. We are. Some of it might be cuz he's a little bit older. Well, you would you wouldn't be receptive to a

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    cousin hitting you up out of nowhere that that never met you. You receptive to that. How about that? I just said I would call aunt Lee. No, them call

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    somebody call. Nobody Nobody would call me aunt Lee. My family knows how. My family is my family. They know they know

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    me. They know how to do me. They know how to handle me. And she would know how to reach out to you. Manly would call.

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    Manly daughter would call. A c Brenda would call. Some a cousin I like is calling. It ain't going to be Orlando. I

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    like I like to Orlando.

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    No, but my family has cousins that with that. We love them. But Orlando, she me call

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    them up and Gina. D. My family know. Come on now. Anyway, just shoot.

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    Orlando [ __ ] They going to call me too. They going to watch us and call you. No, my Virginia cousins going to call me like, "Yo, I heard that [ __ ] you

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    said." Yeah. Tuck that episode. Don't let the family hear that. You got You got Virginia cousins. Yeah. I mean, not

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    not Atlanta. I'm sorry. Atlanta. Atlanta. They're black. Much blacker.

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    Watch. I don't know. Listen, man. I'm not playing with y. You don't have no cousin war now. Please. Yeah. Word. My

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    cousins are better cousins than your cousins. My cousin. Yeah. Yo, you told that [ __ ] your grandfather [ __ ] his

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    grandfather. That was the most Yo yo, your family can't cook. That was a grits better than

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    my family. My uncle cook grits better than your uncle. Y'all are weird. There's no war to be had. If I'm not

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    uplifting my brother, then I don't want to do it. What are y'all talking about? Got you. If I'm not if my relationship

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    can't be used as an asset and a wealth of joy, sure, then sure, we can n that.

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    But that that's my purpose. Yeah, I acting weird. No, that's beast.

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    You got it. You got it, fam. You got it, homie. You got it, homie.

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    Champ. It's a good use of champ. No, just champ. No, they champed me.

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    Yeah, he's a champ. Oh my god. In the 90s, them [ __ ] used to sit right in

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    front of you and champ a black and mouth for like an hour. Oh [ __ ]

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    What does that mean? That's when they take the [ __ ] out. When they take that stuff out, they take the cancer paper out. Oh my god. That [ __ ] is all cancer

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    paper. Pour the [ __ ] back in there. It was a mess. It was a mess. Freak the black. All right. What we doing, champ?

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    Let me end these drops for the best crew in the world. [Applause]

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    What's happening? It's hard. What's happening? Uh

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    Flip and Mel Mel Mel. What episode is this? 8:30. Yeah. My god, my girth. Uh,

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    welcome to episode 8:30 of the Joe Button podcast. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, highly favorite,

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    lowly favorite host here with a few really amazing people. Brought to you by, fueled by, powered by Prize Pigs.

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    Prize Pigs gang. Uh to my right, Gracie Award

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    winner. Big Melissa Ford is in the building. Who [ __ ] who? Next to her, Queens Flip.

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    Queens get the money. Next to him, man. Yeah. Oh, wait. Hold up. Hold up. I

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    didn't notice you didn't have a boot on. You graduated. Back outside. Come on, man. No boot. No boot. No boot, man. No.

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    No boot. He like Kobe boy. I get down with my name, my [ __ ] No boots, [ __ ]

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    Nah, for real. Welcome back, [ __ ] No boo, man. That boy healing like a man Peterson. He's heavy-handed as hell.

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    This [ __ ] this [ __ ] we happy you back, bro. How you feeling, man? Boolis. Boolis. Barry. It's coming. Can you

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    stretch your foot out? Can you stretch it out? Stretch your leg out. Could you just be excited? Stretch my leg. Just want to make sure you good. That's all.

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    I'm just happy for him. Does it feel nice to wear two sneakers again? Yeah, but I think the left one is a little

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    fancier than the right. The one's a little cleaner. It's all good. [ __ ] All my joints going to have one bin.

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    What'd you do with the boot? It's in my car. This is my first day wearing it.

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    Don't try Don't try to be too cute. Be Superman with Don't try to be too cute out there now. You start therapy yet?

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    Oh, you start therapy? I've been in therapy for 11 weeks. I'm talking about with the boot off. No, at the recovery house.

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    [Laughter] Yeah. Okay. Well, congratulations. I

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    know. I know. That's a big deal. That [ __ ] got to feel amazing. It is. It's It's getting there. Yeah.

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    I'm hooping soon. Yeah. Slow down. Slow down. That [ __ ] That [ __ ] was a shot to

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    my ego, dog. You got You got to get some get back. No, it ain't need some get back, right? It's okay for your ego to

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    get shot and then you got to get some get back. Yeah, I'm going to catch you [ __ ] in September. Yo, n to the park.

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    Your ego, your ego take a shot. You bugging it. It's going to inspire you to come back. Calls I got my [ __ ] Yes, I

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    do. You used to be nice. I'm like, G, thank you. What? Yo, you bugging and now

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    you're not. So, you got to get the evolution of life and aging. You can't let that be ego, dog. Your ego has to be

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    set to a new place now. It did. It got set down there. Ain't nothing wrong. My [ __ ] was all the way in hell. I'm good.

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    No, I'm You think I ain't pooping? You crazy. Okay. I mean, I wouldn't recommend it. And as your friend, I feel

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    like I got to tell you that. Right. At least we had a calendar year, I think. N Yeah. All the [ __ ] I know that tore

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    their [ __ ] Uhhuh. Mark athletes. Mark tore [ __ ] He I mean Storm to [ __ ] He

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    back hooping. Like I'm I'm going back to hoop. But they their story doesn't have to be yours. True. It's something I

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    wonder. You could just lay up now. You own the construction business. You got the PP the PPP loans. Hey yo, everything

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    is cool. Like Yeah. What are we trying to get a triple? It's the play on like say whatever you want. All right. I

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    don't blame you though. I don't blame you either. I've been trying to Well, before you go, beat me.

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    Beep. Yeah. Beat me. Hit me on the beat. Hit you on the hip. I thought you said beat. I think beat motor two. I think

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    he's calling him out on the 101. Hit me on the [ __ ] What's the [ __ ] Uh I used to always made me get them [ __ ]

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    What was the other one? The sidekick one. Oh, Sidekick. Sidekick. Yeah.

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    Why did I have a sidekick? It's popular. What are those called? Skyail. Sidekick. the blackberry all you [ __ ] But I

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    shouldn't have had a psychic. Okay. Why? That's just some birdie [ __ ]

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    Psychics. [ __ ] we was birds. You're a bird, [ __ ] [ __ ] off. [ __ ] I I do

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    want to eventually grow out of that. Okay. I met you one day. One day soon. You still got wings? H

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    your wings ain't going to go nowhere. They put them inside like what's the name? I forgot to mark the [ __ ]

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    Yeah. Yeah. Oh boy. Archangel. More money. You get freeze, [ __ ] Introduce Freeze to P. Don't ever do that, son.

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    See, you forgetting [ __ ] If your other man was here, you would forget him. Introduce [ __ ] right, [ __ ] Freeze is here. Yeah. Mhm. Big Freeze.

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    How about we fall back? I apologize. I Here goes that big brother [ __ ] again.

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    I'm sorry. I don't want to be his big brother if that. Hell no. It's there already. I

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    don't want to be that. Sorry. Look, he is in like my mentorship program. Yeah, but you're not my big

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    brother. You're my older brother. Not big brother. He's just older. Not big. Even Even that even that right there.

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    Not big brother. No. You're my older brother. He can't be big brother. No, man.

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    Why though? I'm good. I'm good. That's ego. He's my older brother. Yeah, but it's

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    it's it's misplaced. Your big bro is who you call when you mean gotta get them

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    boys up off you. Look what you do. Yes, you correct. You're correct. That is a fact. You are 100% correct. I mean, I

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    don't want to be the one to say it. I mean, but I do want to be the one. I mean,

  • 20:48

    okay. Crazy, yo. So, call him Big Bro. Yeah. Oh, you got

  • 20:53

    your mind. Come on. Freeze at least for the rest of the show. Marinest for the

  • 20:58

    rest of the show. Just say BB. Say BB BB. Cory here. Trey in the building. E

  • 21:04

    in the back. E in the keep it somewhere. Tana and somebody else. Romel calls you our big bro last week. Even though she's

  • 21:09

    older than you. She did. Yes. And I appreciate that. You know what I mean? But I move like that. You don't move

  • 21:15

    like that with me. We cool with you. You move. You move. You my brother. I love you. You move like, bro. Hey yo, listen.

  • 21:24

    This is not analogous. It's not about me. That is a great question, but it's not. Maybe I would too. Okay.

  • 21:32

    That went good. That was good. Hey, Big Parks is here. Po's here.

  • 21:38

    Cory is here. My son is over there looking sad, man. It's going It's cool. She She going to come back. Emo is

  • 21:44

    genetic. She going to come back, man. You were supposed to come and talk about the last time you ran. You ran from that seat last time. You rode 1,000 bars. You

  • 21:50

    ran from that seat. Oh my god. You hear him? I got that [ __ ] Yo, she gone, man. She

  • 21:58

    gone, bro. Anyway, how y'all doing, man? What's up? Ericson is here. Whoever else I don't know, man. What's up? What's popping? We

  • 22:05

    good. We good. We feeling good. I was I was watching a Peewee

  • 22:10

    Herdoc. I liked it. I didn't know he was, you know what I mean? Salute to him. But, you know, you ain't know what

  • 22:16

    you ain't know what he was a gay man. I a know he was a gay man, but he also said that he played a role like he he

  • 22:21

    was able to I forgot the terminology that he used, but he was able to be duality. Come off duality. come off

  • 22:28

    straight while being gay. Like he was able to hide it. He's active. Yeah. And one thing that Oh, yeah. When that first

  • 22:34

    gay relationship uh ended and his [ __ ] heartbroken, he said, "All right, I'm presenting straight now." One

  • 22:39

    thing I learned though from it that resonated a little bit was not the gay part. Chill out. Was when he But we

  • 22:45

    didn't Nobody. I just want to make sure cuz he looked he looked at me. It's when he finally is when he produced they gave

  • 22:53

    him the rights to produce the movie and it was a flop. I love the second PB Herman. Oh, the second one. Yeah, the

  • 22:58

    circus one. And that [ __ ] resonated with me. It's like sometimes, [ __ ] when you have the help and you don't want to take

  • 23:04

    it, like when you when you have something successful and you want to do it on your own and then when you do it on your own, that [ __ ] is that [ __ ]

  • 23:11

    plummet. I didn't even know it existed. That's a [ __ ] that's [ __ ] to your ego, man. I was like, damn. Like, and then he bounced Pee-Wee heard me. I was young

  • 23:18

    for all that [ __ ] So, the movie flop. Cool. Then he bounced back the Christmas special with Ja Gabbor, Madonna, Eddie

  • 23:26

    Murphy, Prince, Michael Jackson, Oprah, anybody the biggest stars in the world

  • 23:32

    was in the Christmas joint. So it's like they talking about a he fell, but the next movie he killed him. I was like,

  • 23:37

    [ __ ] who ain't about to kill him if you if you give me all of these.

  • 23:44

    The Christmas one is the one that I was in school [ __ ] going crazy for. That was a good movie. I don't know if I remember the Christmas movie. I don't

  • 23:50

    remember the first one. I remember the first one. I remember the first one. The first one was good. The second one was the circus one. It was just don't even

  • 23:57

    remember. He produced it himself. It was the flop. Yo, if you are a star, if you

  • 24:02

    are an adult star for children, that doesn't

  • 24:08

    sound great, but carry on. They I'm That's not what I'm trying. Yeah, that doesn't sound great. What's the proper

  • 24:14

    way to say it? Peewee Herman was a star. Well, it didn't start for kids, but it eventually started.

  • 24:20

    It eventually got to the children. You can't jerk off no more. Not

  • 24:25

    public. Hide that. President relationship, [ __ ] Like he he a have time for himself, so he had to get off

  • 24:31

    the line. You still can't adult movie and jerk off. Sarasota, [ __ ] He was in

  • 24:36

    Sarasota, Florida. Who the [ __ ] thought there was going to be a sting in Sarasota, Florida? He probably thought

  • 24:42

    he was pretty cool there. Who the [ __ ] thought there was going to be a [ __ ] a sting operation? Some [ __ ] say the

  • 24:48

    same [ __ ] about that massage parlor in Florida. He got about as low as you could possibly get with it. You're right. That's real. That is real. He was

  • 24:54

    broke. No. No. Jerking off. No, he was on top of the world. He was there having

  • 25:01

    a good time. He was on top of the world. He wanted to get down in the trenches a little bit. That was all top of the

  • 25:06

    world. This is what got him out of here. Yeah. So unfortunate. You can't you got

  • 25:11

    to be careful. He was in Jersey, too. When he laid low after the jerk off, he gained a jersey. He was out here with y'all. We all been hiding out. We all

  • 25:19

    said he was hiding out in Jersey at somebody crib in New Jersey. And if you live your life as a character, it is

  • 25:25

    real important for us to not see the real you. The real you like his mug shot

  • 25:31

    looked nuts in the paper. They put Peeweee Herman next to his real face with long hair looking drunk stupid in

  • 25:37

    the face. Yeah. Rest in peace Peewee Herman. Sexually frustrated too. I'm sure they let him finish.

  • 25:44

    He offered them. He said, "I can do a charity." He offered him to do a charity for them if they let him go. He probably offered a couple things. Oh, he probably

  • 25:50

    brought the [ __ ] out of yo dog. Listen, what I what I loved about it and then we'll move on from Pee-Wee Herman. Yes.

  • 25:57

    He opens It opens telling you Peewee Herman is no longer with us, but before he was fighting a private battle with uh

  • 26:04

    cancer. Yes. Uh but he shot 70 hours 40

  • 26:10

    40 hours of film for this doc. And it opens with him saying, "Yeah, man. Like,

  • 26:16

    I just feel like a doc about me I should have control of." So, this is my story.

  • 26:23

    I'm telling it the way I want to tell it. Yada yada yada yada. And I'm like, I like that. I thought that was fire. I'm

  • 26:29

    like, that's too fired to be true. Why do you mean that? Because that's not how docs

  • 26:36

    work. Tell me more. Well, in the very next episode, there was only two

  • 26:42

    episodes, but in episode two, he wanted to talk about

  • 26:49

    uh the framing of the arrest and what led up to it a certain way. And he was like, "Well, can you ask me these

  • 26:55

    questions or can I add these questions or just answer them on my own?" And the guy said, "I think you know the answer

  • 27:02

    to that." No, you're going to answer the questions I ask you. Yeah, we paying you, [ __ ] I'm producing you. This is

  • 27:09

    our [ __ ] I don't know what you think this is. So, yeah, that was just interesting to me. Huh. But he could

  • 27:14

    still I get both sides cuz he could still in his version say, "I don't want a doctor to be made about me without me

  • 27:19

    in it." That's all. They could have they could have sold that [ __ ] a dream and said,

  • 27:24

    "Yo, nah, you going to control this one. You got this." Well, that's okay. Because you inserting your questions, you he didn't understand it, but you

  • 27:31

    inserting your questions right here may [ __ ] up the story that the producer is

  • 27:36

    trying to tell. Even if it's two or three questions, I'm deviating from what is a script. And those people put in a

  • 27:43

    lot of work behind the scenes to come come up with those probably put in their own money or whatever the case may be. They did that, too. Yeah. Like, and when

  • 27:49

    people die is when we want the tea. We don't want your version of tiptoeing around and making it cute. I know you

  • 27:56

    about to die and we want to know we want to know the [ __ ] That's why we're here. It's a big business out there. [ __ ]

  • 28:02

    selling their life rights for sure and story rights, not even famous people. So look at it. If you if you him, you know,

  • 28:09

    you possibly going to check out soon. I want to get my story out there my way. I don't want nobody else to tell my

  • 28:15

    story cuz I know how when somebody else put a doc out, like you said, it's the tea. You can have me looking all crazy.

  • 28:21

    Let me try to get some level of control over this by being a part of this. So yeah, I'm going to tell my version of it

  • 28:27

    from my words so nobody could tell my story for me. Now they could do whatever after I'm gone or as much as I can. Mhm.

  • 28:32

    Yeah. You know what I'm saying? That makes sense. It was good. Go check it out. It's two episodes on HBO Max. Yes.

  • 28:40

    It's on home box office. Go check it out. Okay. What did it leave you feeling

  • 28:46

    after watching it? Did you do you feel like it was kind of like uh I was informed. I I felt informed. It's not a

  • 28:53

    feeling, but I left feeling a lot more informed about his life, Pee-Wee Herman,

  • 28:59

    and how he came to be, his struggle, his story from start to finish. Again, when

  • 29:04

    I jumped on, it was for kids. Yeah. So, even as an adult, just seeing that like it's not recently that they putting uh

  • 29:12

    gay figures in front of kids. True, man. Like, so weird about it now. A lifelong

  • 29:19

    thing. And you just don't know. Not that it mattered, but it was I was just well informed. his struggle. Yeah. But that's

  • 29:25

    when he when he failed. Yeah. Him finding the character was the most interesting to me. Like developing

  • 29:31

    characters. Finding the character Peewee Herman. Yes. Gotcha. Gotcha. Gotcha. Gotcha. Cuz he he was a racist character

  • 29:37

    before that. Uh uh Native American. And he said it. He admitted that was racist

  • 29:42

    cuz he thought that he thought that the Native American character would be the one that takes him to the next level cuz people thought it was entertaining. And

  • 29:48

    then he found the Peewee Herman character. He went through a few modes, but rest rest in peace people.

  • 29:55

    Shout out to him. Now we just need to get Bob Ross back his rights, [ __ ] They got a whole fac. They got a whole

  • 30:01

    [ __ ] warehouse of his [ __ ] Y'all justice people be fighting for the wrong [ __ ] Get Bob Ross' rights like de lo.

  • 30:08

    They tried to go there. You can't enter the the premises. The doors are locked. They tried. People tried to go get this

  • 30:14

    man's rights. Get the right brothers. Who made McDonald's? McDonald's. Who made McDonald's? The two black dudes.

  • 30:20

    Give us give us our [ __ ] back. They never giving us McDonald's. 10 billion sold. Never giving us

  • 30:26

    McDonald's. No. [ __ ] sold the burger spot. Watch a McDonald's dog, too. Anyway, come on. We

  • 30:32

    got to talk about what can we fight about today? Offset. What can we argue about today? Offset. Yes, sir. Yeah. So,

  • 30:39

    Offset is asking for alimony. It's a new filing within their divorce proceedings.

  • 30:45

    Get paid, my brother. Okay. It seems to be uh interestingly timed after the uh

  • 30:50

    right footage of the boat. Yeah. So cliff notes are 2020. Back in 2020, Cardi filed for divorce. Um the first

  • 30:57

    time she decided to give love a chance and got back together with Offset Love Wins. Uh well, you know, that's

  • 31:04

    debatable. Um and then she Well, I mean, let me finish the cliff notes. And then in 2024, I You're not an advocate of

  • 31:10

    love. I am a huge advocate. I'm a [ __ ] marshmallow. No, you're not. I

  • 31:15

    am a marshmallow. I love love love. Okay. Hallmark [ __ ] cards make me cry. Okay. I I love I love you a sucker.

  • 31:25

    Oh, maybe a little bit of a sucker, too. Absolutely. But hold on, let me just finish the cliff notes. Okay, so August 2024, she refiles for divorce and she

  • 31:33

    basically says it's not because of cheating. Well, she retracts that statement a few months later and says, "Yes, the [ __ ] it was." And it was also

  • 31:40

    um she also threw in threatening and stalking and revenge porn. So now he has

  • 31:48

    asked for alimony and spousal support but with the caveat that they have joint

  • 31:53

    custody but she be but their primary residence be her house. He wants to cake

  • 32:00

    and eat it too. Sounds like boy. Yeah. Yeah. Sounds like it. Right. He said their primary residence will remain her

  • 32:06

    house or her. Yes. Yeah, but we get joint. He responded through uh he responded through his attorney and said

  • 32:12

    that he's only doing it because they're trying to just put him over to put him over the coals and asking for every

  • 32:18

    single thing that you could possibly ask for. Oh, really? That's what Oh, so we're not we're not hearing that side of it. We're just hearing this. Okay. Yeah,

  • 32:25

    we're just That makes sense. Got to fight back. Get paid. Get paid. Yeah. I'm distinguished cast who has a

  • 32:33

    controversial take on this. Now, in pre-production, we all agreed, get paid,

  • 32:38

    young [ __ ] I don't know if Mel Mel, you agree with us, too, right? No, you got You're such a liar. Nobody agreed

  • 32:44

    with that. What? Yes, we did. I think we all Everybody did. Wait, hold on. Wait. What? Everybody should get paid. Young

  • 32:50

    [ __ ] get paid. Okay. I'm alone on this island. Please tell me your argument for

  • 32:56

    why he should get spousal support. You don't be listening to my pre-pro. She definitely not Anyway, go

  • 33:03

    ahead. Yeah, but no, I'm asking like please present the argument why he should get spousal support. Usually the

  • 33:10

    person asking for spousal support actually [ __ ] needs it. Got it. You

  • 33:15

    know, this is usually a circumstance in which there's one one person is like the p this is the bread winner. You're whing

  • 33:22

    on the internet. That's it. Yo, you're whing on the internet. You're doing a lot. Wait, wait. Running around by continue by trying to you know

  • 33:30

    Yes. You're the mother of continue on with her life to him. To him. You're the mother of my children. You're wild. Allegedly, you cheated on me while

  • 33:36

    pregnant with our child. Oh, okay. That's alleged, but there's No, I think she said I'm saying alleged cuz I don't

  • 33:42

    know what happened. But this is what he said. Mhm. So, the person that was cheating alleges that she was cheating.

  • 33:50

    I'm not. So, we're I think she admitted. Did she? No. Well, all they say going to

  • 33:55

    cheat is one person cheating. You cheating pregnant. Oh [ __ ] It's not the same. Two of y'all. Okay.

  • 34:02

    I don't necessarily believe that she did, but I'm not. You took my baby to his house.

  • 34:10

    So, is your argument your is your argument mainly uh he doesn't need the

  • 34:16

    money? A thousand%. I agree with my argument is that he does not need the money and that this is just malicious

  • 34:22

    intent, you know, just to piss her off because the reasons why she's given for filing for divorce is not just cheating.

  • 34:29

    It's also she's also included threatening, stalking and revenge porn. Like this is a lot of and also publicly

  • 34:36

    speaking and disparaging her publicly. Like it's re he he's both did they both

  • 34:43

    did. I feel like it's been retaliation on her part. They both did it. That's all I'm saying. They both do this with

  • 34:49

    these topics and it pisses off. No, I don't. I'm No, don't. No. You over here trying to uh the flames. I'm doing good.

  • 34:56

    No, he's No, don't [ __ ] Put your Put your Superman eyes over there, bro. Trying to

  • 35:02

    burn your ass. Yeah. No, you over there looking like But I could tell when something hit is like near and dear to

  • 35:08

    me. I'm not going to say triggering. No, it's not triggering. It's just like I could just look at the situation and just say like, you

  • 35:15

    know, he he's he's professed how much he loves her. But I mean, they're both young, you know? They're both young,

  • 35:21

    famous, rich. How do you feel about it if it's just lawyer games? like if what he's saying is true and it's in response to how this is being litigated. Like

  • 35:28

    what if some of the claims that she's making are not true outside of we we've seen some of the infidelity stuff but

  • 35:34

    some of that other stuff we don't know if that's true that could just be I think that saying that he has he sent a

  • 35:41

    video you know a video of sexual activity with her to another guy like revenge porn that's very specific you

  • 35:47

    know what I'm saying well she then hit up one of the girls that allegedly that he was [ __ ] with with some tea what

  • 35:54

    was the tea listen I'm not putting too much in their Do you feel like male that if if

  • 35:59

    somebody is well off they should not ask for spousal support even if they're man or woman?

  • 36:05

    Absolutely% I'm remember last episode I'm the woman who said I would want a prenup. Yes, you know what I'm saying?

  • 36:12

    So like Yes, absolutely. They So they both are, you know, exceptionally rich,

  • 36:18

    like maybe even, you know, wealthy at this point. Says who? But but and his levels too rich. He's worth 30 million.

  • 36:25

    She's worth 100 million. That's what's being reported. Okay. She I think Yeah. Well, that's that is

  • 36:33

    still a little What's the spouse? Tell me what all that hot and bother [ __ ] is cool.

  • 36:39

    Tell me what the spouse is. Tell me what [ __ ] have been getting paid. I don't see how you could want him to live in a

  • 36:46

    lesser home with those children. Quality of life with the

  • 36:51

    children where she's going to have the primary residence. It's not all it's not so old.

  • 36:57

    It's not all the time. And he put his dreams to the side to push her. That's true. That's true. That's true. Yeah.

  • 37:04

    Yeah. He did. So full of [ __ ] He did not. He gave her his whole management team fixed contracts. They represented

  • 37:10

    her for mad long. Yeah, he did. Okay.

  • 37:16

    Maybe she doesn't get that 100 without him. Well, just say it's possible that she doesn't, but here she is. Just say

  • 37:22

    you [ __ ] with the women and don't want to hear that. Yeah. Would you try to do the word salad over I I I

  • 37:27

    distinctly remember a Jimmy Butler conversation in here, but I don't want beef. when Jimmy Butler

  • 37:34

    was giving his baby moms maybe 10, 12 grand, 20 grand or something and she wanted way way more and you stood on the

  • 37:41

    side of getting more money from Jimmy Butler. He was giving his baby mother a [ __ ] ton of money already. So again,

  • 37:46

    that is a situation where Jimmy Butler is the primary bread winner and she I don't I I just want to go let's just say

  • 37:52

    she ain't got [ __ ] Okay, we're not talking about that here. We're talking about Offset and [ __ ] Cardi B.

  • 37:58

    Whether it's he's got 30 million, she got a hundred million. He is not outside with a [ __ ] cup in his hand like

  • 38:03

    please sir, please. Well, what's the spousal support? But real quick, but if he's giving her 20, 30 something a month

  • 38:10

    and he's also that she ain't got Jimmy Butler was paying 55k a month in child support. We not going to say she wanted

  • 38:17

    more money. And we said, "What the fuck?" And y'all came in here and argued

  • 38:22

    that she is deserving of more money. So, let me finish, please. If Cardi B is worth a 100red or 200 million and

  • 38:28

    homeboy is worth 30 or 50, there's a huge disparity in that number. I wouldn't do it. Me, the man that I am, I

  • 38:36

    wouldn't ask her for [ __ ] but I'm not mad at him if he is doing it. Ice would

  • 38:42

    do I I wouldn't do it personally. But it would just be interesting to find out his reasons for wanting spouse. Huh? He

  • 38:49

    saw the video on the boat. He like because you because that's what you have to prove. You have to act, you have to

  • 38:54

    prove why you need spousal support. I don't know that to be true. I don't know that to be true. I I don't think my

  • 39:00

    understanding is that you do. And so they will go through, you know, bank accounts and you know, like the

  • 39:06

    justification is that I want to be able to maintain the same the same lifestyle.

  • 39:11

    We got egos. We got pride. And a lot of times when we see our significant other

  • 39:16

    or our ex move on, we going to do what we can do. Even if it's lawyer games, we going to do what we can do. I don't even

  • 39:22

    want to put that on. Well, well, I'm not saying him. I'm just talking about me. Yeah. Gotcha. And I think that a lot of people I'm going to do whatever I want

  • 39:28

    to do to make your life a living hell. You can't be on a boat shaking ass [ __ ] Whatever the [ __ ] that is with

  • 39:35

    fire [ __ ] while I'm in the [ __ ] video shoot with a with a a [ __ ] what's that bathtub next to me. This is two.

  • 39:42

    It's just different. Give me spouse and I [ __ ] I want I want depression report. Give me all that [ __ ] What's all that

  • 39:48

    [ __ ] you could ask for? Pain suffering all that. Yeah. A large part. A large

  • 39:53

    part. I'm with you for it. No, he's absolutely right. He is absolutely right. Well, if you recognize that he's absolutely right, but she's saying it's

  • 39:59

    wrong. She said, "Even if I'm right, that's wrong to to a way to get it cuz you have money already." Oh, no. No.

  • 40:04

    That's because your ego's been [ __ ] with. Yes. And that's malicious. That's That's a No, you're [ __ ] with it.

  • 40:10

    It's not my ego just so happens to be [ __ ] with. I see what you're saying. You're actively [ __ ] with my Let me

  • 40:16

    just land, please. We do that a lot here. We can't talk and listen at the same time. Just just rock with me. This good talk.

  • 40:24

    A large part of separation is managing emotions. Mhm. Okay. Mhm. Not just

  • 40:30

    yours. Sorry. Sorry to break it to you. Unfortunately, I've gone through this.

  • 40:36

    I've gone through this. This is your maturity, bro. Well, I've gone through mediation before. This is your maturity,

  • 40:41

    bro. And I had emotions and she had emotions. And I had things I wanted to get and she

  • 40:47

    had things she wanted to get. And no matter how much emotion was in it, we

  • 40:52

    had to find a way to navigate through that. If you know you going through divorce, and no sign that we've seen

  • 40:59

    says it's been a friendly one. Mhm. No. Then what do you think is going to

  • 41:06

    happen when you parade around town with the beautiful football player on the

  • 41:11

    boat at the Matt Galla? Y'all not just running around. Of course, what side of the side? This ain't like me and my ex

  • 41:17

    breaking up and then she go to Xbar with some new [ __ ] She You'll tell. Yeah,

  • 41:23

    she had [ __ ] papacitos with some new [ __ ] This is a different level. This is There's levels to this. Absolutely.

  • 41:29

    Basketball games. This is holding hands [ __ ] We popped out intentionally

  • 41:35

    because it was rumors before that they were seeing each other. He started he had to catch him. Yo, it was here. It

  • 41:40

    was there. It was this. was at fashion week [ __ ] They was that girls love karaoke. I got the [ __ ] out of there.

  • 41:48

    They came and sat right at the table. I ain't with all that superstar [ __ ] I'm out of here. But that's what I'm saying though. Being that girl love karaoke is

  • 41:55

    not the same thing as popping up courtside at the Nick game. Holding hands as you walk into the and holding

  • 42:01

    hands while I mean you say that. I've been I've been where Flip is saying

  • 42:06

    before. So my brain would take it to if you at if I'm homestalking my girl or my ex, if you at Girls Love Karaoke with

  • 42:14

    this [ __ ] that means both of y'all are in New York and this is a after or pregame. What is going on? This ain't

  • 42:21

    this ain't the real move. And I'm going keep it. You two is coming from somewhere. True. That's what I'm talking

  • 42:27

    about though. And I'm going to keep it a buck. Yo, you at Girls Love Karaoke. That means you really [ __ ] with this

  • 42:33

    [ __ ] Yeah. Like you at the Knicks game. That could be for show. That's like some superstar [ __ ] my [ __ ] You

  • 42:39

    down at the the [ __ ] cheese. I'm spot in the hood. You [ __ ] with

  • 42:45

    that. When it comes down to [ __ ] with my ego, like y'all was saying, bro, you popping up at these places, Mech Gala,

  • 42:51

    etc. That's going to get national coverage. It's different than you at Girls Love Karaoke where [ __ ] outside

  • 42:56

    of New York don't even know what that is. And you popping out with a [ __ ] that do all the same [ __ ] you was complaining about with me, if not more

  • 43:03

    or worse. That's that's what but it don't that's what matter that's what a man says when he's

  • 43:10

    sitting at home lost his whole family and now got time to think about the grievances that she laid out now we

  • 43:17

    watching your next move we be scared a little bit maybe she going to find a good man maybe she going to find

  • 43:23

    somebody that don't agree with my way and you go out and [ __ ]

  • 43:29

    Yo that's step one that's true cuz then when you see who she with and you know how he move. Oh, it's coming again

  • 43:35

    anyway. And he's sitting there like, he going to do the same [ __ ] Y'all broke up and she ran the [ __ ] Houston for

  • 43:43

    James Harden weekend. Ceue up the playlist, homeboy. Just

  • 43:49

    queue up the playlist. Y'all broke up and it took her three days to be at John

  • 43:54

    Wall DC party. Okay, so what part is worse? Yeah, you

  • 44:00

    better cut me off. No, what part is worse? You better you better cut me off. What part is worse as it relates to you

  • 44:05

    guys? As as it relates to men in general, I know y'all are on a monolith, but try and like, you know, just do the

  • 44:10

    general guy think thing. What part is worse? Is that she's stepping out with uh Can we refer to Stefan as a sniper

  • 44:17

    here? Is that what we would do? I mean, I think with the male Okay. So, I didn't know if it was a different I didn't know

  • 44:23

    if it was like just a woman thing or if it was just like a He got some kills. Okay. He's a sniper. Navy Seal. I don't

  • 44:29

    know if he's a sniper, though. He's pretty uh Navy Seal. Navy Seal. Navy Seal. He's a You see him? You see him?

  • 44:35

    Yes. Yes. I've got eyes. Yes. Okay. So, that I don't Navy Seal.

  • 44:41

    Come up with a Navy Seals. You know, you don't see them. That's the point of a sniper. That's what I'm saying. That's why I don't know if I I don't know if

  • 44:46

    he's a Navy Seal. He might be. Yo, I think he one of the young sports [ __ ] that [ __ ] looked up the rappers,

  • 44:52

    girls. I mean, or looked up the rappers, seen a girl, and now that it's his time to shine. He just on a [ __ ] mission no matter how you do. Okay. So what?

  • 44:59

    We're just going to call him a sniper for now. Okay. Is the is the bigger problem that she is dating a sniper and

  • 45:06

    so she might have possibly in maybe Offset's eyes upgraded or is that the

  • 45:12

    fact that he now knows that she literally doesn't give a [ __ ] anymore?

  • 45:17

    Because the first time the the first time that she filed for divorce, he was able to get her back and she stayed for

  • 45:26

    several years and they had another baby. you blazing. But then the next time she files for divorce, enough [ __ ] had

  • 45:33

    probably happened. Repeated actions that she would and also also weathering the storm of continuous public humiliation.

  • 45:40

    So her public humiliation was while they were married and he was cheating. She's

  • 45:45

    on the outside of that marriage. And is he not the first one to have stepped out publicly with somebody else? And she was

  • 45:52

    a beautiful girl, but nobody knew who the [ __ ] she was. She just happens to be dating a fine ass star. No, it's a

  • 45:59

    that's really what the [ __ ] face when you when you put all the stuff on the table. This is the question that answered it. And and made up some other

  • 46:05

    [ __ ] Well, I mean, Parks did kind of answer it. I didn't. You're speaking for men.

  • 46:10

    No, you did answer it because you said it was the second one. It's a slap in the face when you lay everything on the table and say, "This is why I'm leaving

  • 46:17

    this relationship just to get in bed or get with somebody that does the same exact thing." No. And he said months ago

  • 46:24

    when they first were talking about the breakup, "This is who she [ __ ] with." And everybody was like, "Maybe, maybe

  • 46:30

    not." Because they were denying it at first. He knew that early when she was pregnant. He was like, "Yo, this is who she [ __ ] with." I would rather he

  • 46:36

    laid it out there. Don't [ __ ] with a [ __ ] like me. Go get yourself a a nerd, a geek, a professor at a college. Go get

  • 46:43

    yourself one of them. Somebody cool. Go get a [ __ ] from Starbucks that work by a manager. Something different from not

  • 46:50

    [ __ ] with someone from Starbucks. I'm not I'm just talking about I'm using me as an example. I wouldn't want you if you lay on the table. I don't like this

  • 46:56

    about you, that about you, that about you. You're doing this and then you get with somebody that does the same thing I'm doing. And we got to stop saying

  • 47:02

    that. What? Which one? We got to stop saying such and such because of their cache wouldn't do such and such. Right.

  • 47:10

    They just don't publicize. They might not media might be a little slick here

  • 47:16

    and then when they get the big fish that's when they pop out on them or that's when the media finds it interesting enough to write. But that

  • 47:22

    but that was offset's first beef. What is that? Oh, you playing romantic games

  • 47:28

    with my ops. Ah, he worded it differently. Yes. But he said, "Oh, you

  • 47:33

    you playing different different like you [ __ ] Oh, I ain't know that. So you so

  • 47:38

    you mad that I play your game better than you?" Who's complaining about me then? Let me ask. All right, we should

  • 47:43

    escape this. We should leave. Come on, y'all. Come on. Mel's mind is made up. We not trying to coers you. What game?

  • 47:50

    I'm literally riffing off of what Joe was saying. Are you mad that I'm playing your game better than you? Yeah. Who

  • 47:57

    what was his game? His game was He was [ __ ] her ops. I don't know. No, I'm asking you that. No, just in Yeah, just

  • 48:03

    in terms of like would say yes. Yeah, she would she would say yes, but I'm asking. And just Yeah, we know she was

  • 48:10

    he was [ __ ] her. I don't know nothing I'm talking about. I don't know nothing about

  • 48:15

    to your point. Yo, I think I think that they both are married. I think that they both have children. I think that they

  • 48:20

    were in love at some point in time. And when you break up, you in my opinion

  • 48:25

    have to consider the other person's feelings, especially publicly. I think that's what mature people should do. I

  • 48:30

    don't think that he I think she would argue that he did not consider matter. We want to be

  • 48:37

    misog enough of the woman voice. How long does that last year? You think that's wise?

  • 48:46

    I I believe and I'm saying this in closing. I believe double standards should exist

  • 48:52

    sometime. Y'all have definitely said that up here. What? Life is double standards, ma'am.

  • 48:59

    and we So he's so he's saying, "Yo, I been hoing.

  • 49:06

    You shouldn't really have as much time to hoe as me cuz you the primary." Mhm.

  • 49:11

    What you need to do is sit your little hide ass down and put an album out, but you won't. That's what he's saying. M

  • 49:21

    and y'all and the co-parent dad news flash is always going to be able to say

  • 49:27

    that and we going to say it and it's going to sound nasty. Hey, we know what

  • 49:32

    the truth is under that. But [ __ ] is going to say, "Yo, where's my kid with

  • 49:37

    Nana again? You moving and shaking again. Where the

  • 49:43

    [ __ ] is Timmy? Where's our baby? I'm going to need a cut." Anyway, that's enough of us

  • 49:49

    minding people business. Yeah, facts. Uh, thoughts and prayers. Thoughts and pray. Listen, summer's

  • 49:56

    about to get hot. [ __ ] home from jail and they plotting. Be careful out there.

  • 50:02

    This is the right season to lose your girl, to get a bank account frozen, to

  • 50:07

    get the wrong phone call, wrong the wrong family member done got kidnapped.

  • 50:12

    One bad thing this summer could change the whole landscape. So, just be careful out there. Be careful. Some of y'all did

  • 50:20

    the spring breakup and now y'all going to try to pump stunt fly on your ex for the summer. Be careful. All I'm saying

  • 50:26

    is be careful. I already see it out there. It'll backfire. I'm already seeing it. Definitely backfire. Half of Instagram is doing gender reveals. Boy,

  • 50:34

    y'all was [ __ ] y'all killing them shits too with smoke bombs and all type of grenades.

  • 50:40

    And half of Instagram is the streets. And I already see the girls with they break up captions in the

  • 50:48

    stories. Yeah, I see. I see it already. Wait, what do they sound like? Posting. What's the breakup caption? You know,

  • 50:54

    you know, it's not it's not on my timeline. I promise it's not on my timeline. One of my home girls had the new apartment keys and said free at

  • 51:00

    last.

  • 51:05

    And the same way I think that and I'm leaving this again cuz this might be controversial. But the same

  • 51:12

    way Oh [ __ ] already prospects. Hold up. I'm in the prospects. I'm in my bag prospect. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Go

  • 51:19

    ahead. Yeah. What I about to say? And the same way. And hold up. This might be controversial. Damn. What the [ __ ] was

  • 51:25

    controversial? Some Cardi a Oh, you [ __ ] need to go to hell now. the dudes that's trapping the girls cuz I talk to

  • 51:31

    the girlies more than anything. I talk I talk to the girlies now. How they

  • 51:36

    trapping them? The dude is going to She going to get pregnant. The dude is going to say, "Yo,

  • 51:44

    let's do it." She going to say, "Nah, I'm cool." Nah, let's do it. Come on. Come on. I don't really know. He going

  • 51:49

    to say, "Nah, I'm with you. Come on. We for life, bro. Baby going to be leaving. Come on. We leaving abortions." Yeah.

  • 51:56

    That's thing one. That's such thing believe in that. No, dead ass. We're not lying. We are not lying to you. And then

  • 52:01

    she going to have a baby and then he going to realize in six, seven months he

  • 52:06

    going to change his mind. I don't really feel like dudes should be able to do that to girls.

  • 52:14

    That's a controversial. I don't feel like dudes should be able to do that to women. That's a cont. That's [ __ ] up. That is [ __ ] up.

  • 52:20

    That ain't me. Contra. No, I said that's a controversial opinion. Well, it's dude code a little bit. I

  • 52:27

    guess in some some when you in the moment, you want to keep something and just fire, you like, "Oh, come on. Keep

  • 52:32

    that. We going to take over together." You just say a whole bunch of things that you probably don't mean. Yeah. But you saying I also think the dude that

  • 52:39

    says, "I don't want to be a parent should not be uh committed to child support. I have some wild thoughts.

  • 52:44

    Speak to that though as far as this. Speak to that. I want to hear the room speak to that." To which one? The second. Oh, the child support partner.

  • 52:50

    No, no, just I the one that don't want to be a parent. Oh, the the man that says, "Yo, dog, I don't want to go down

  • 52:56

    this route and then having to pay child." I think he should do community service 500 hours at least. Yeah, that

  • 53:02

    should be a charge. You'll [ __ ] that lady whole life up. Yeah, you should take a sex ed egg class. [ __ ] lost me.

  • 53:07

    [ __ ] the guy that trapped the lady. No, he said he said speak to the opposite. Speak to the guy that she got pregnant

  • 53:14

    and he told her on the rip, "Yo, this is not what I want to do." And she like, "Oh, well, we doing this

  • 53:19

    anyway." Speak to that to that guy. Well, I just did. I did the A and the B. I told you my thoughts on it in that

  • 53:25

    scenario. I don't think that guy should have to pay. Yeah, that's those are my controversial. What should be what should be the repercussions for the

  • 53:31

    woman? Oh, I don't know. I'm not It should be repercussions. I don't know about that. Right. But I remember I'm

  • 53:36

    not a You [ __ ] that's trapping these girls, uh, y'all need help. That's [ __ ] up. Anybody trapping anybody cuz

  • 53:42

    it ain't just a [ __ ] It's trapping is going both ways. And anybody trapping somebody need help. You know what I

  • 53:48

    mean? That's another double standard, though. So women should be allowed to trap but not men. No, but women are

  • 53:53

    incentivized differently to trap than men. Some differently. Yeah. But there's in men some men are incentivized to trap

  • 53:59

    a woman in their mind. And those men are probably trapping women. But I think that women are more incentivized. Okay.

  • 54:05

    That way. So how you doing? Why is a man doing that? I'm saying in the case that

  • 54:12

    that scenario doesn't exist where you she got all the money. When that scenario don't exist, how are you

  • 54:19

    incentivized to trap her? Because a lot of out them streets, them insecure ass [ __ ] want you to be tied down by a

  • 54:25

    baby and not be outside to play in the streets like you used to. Those guys should do community service. I'm not disagreeing with you, but I'm saying

  • 54:31

    there should be no penalty for the girl that traps the guy. She need 20,000 hours. If he has to do community

  • 54:36

    service, what does she have to do for Would the penalty be just maybe not she can't get the child support or at least on the same level of child support? Oh,

  • 54:42

    that is true. I keep saying that. Yo, you said that. You did say that. You said that. Okay. I was making sure. Don't listen to me, man. I know you said

  • 54:47

    that. Sometimes you want arguments and you got arguments. When Mel might be

  • 54:52

    made up on some [ __ ] Mel, you're not uh malleable. Malleable at all. That was

  • 55:00

    the word I was thinking. I mean, I told you I was standing 10 toes down on [ __ ] now. [ __ ] it. You got a great You can do

  • 55:06

    that. That bar that part I'm Yeah, I'm I'm not even going to participate in

  • 55:11

    this part of the conversation cuz y'all are whing for real. Which part? the whole uh trapping and child support and

  • 55:17

    [ __ ] like that. That [ __ ] is [ __ ] crazy. Who's because you because you guys are speaking.

  • 55:22

    I'm thinking period in general. Like just in general the whole trapping

  • 55:27

    conversation, we are neglecting to process the fact that there is a child

  • 55:34

    in this matter that did not ask to be here. So whatever [ __ ] games y'all are playing with each other, there's

  • 55:39

    still a kid that is it doesn't even matter anymore. there's a [ __ ] kid that needs to have his life or her life

  • 55:46

    sustained and that is sustained by a friend of mine just had you know just had a baby and he's does very very well

  • 55:52

    for himself and my first thought I was like I'm going to call him I'm going to say hey I want to send you a gift for

  • 55:57

    the baby and I started thinking to myself what should that gift be wipes I was going to I no I was going to send

  • 56:04

    all the essentials savings bomb okay well there's there's that too that's a good thing too but I but I was going to

  • 56:10

    send all the essentials because This girl said, "You ain't got to say nothing. Let's go." I'm sure she would

  • 56:17

    I'm sure she would be very grateful for the essentials that babies need in that first year of life kind of thing because

  • 56:23

    that's that's really it. Having a baby is not sexy. Past the [ __ ] gender reveal, the [ __ ] gets [ __ ] real. You

  • 56:30

    know what I'm saying? So, it's just like who can have who trap who there's still a baby here. You know what I mean? That

  • 56:35

    has to be taken care of. Like, it's nuts. And the fact that you guys are not the ones on birth control is [ __ ]

  • 56:41

    wild to me. You guys can ice is on burger. No, listen. I think I wish I

  • 56:47

    wish more men did what you did cuz vasectomies are reversible. Yep. I think I feel like more men should do what you

  • 56:53

    Listen, do just go ahead and have all the unprotected sex that you want as long as you've had a vasectomy and then

  • 56:59

    when you do want to have kids then you get it [ __ ] reversed. But to but to put the onus of birth control solely on

  • 57:04

    the woman is [ __ ] crazy. And then you run the risk of quote unquote being trapped. Now it's time for my favorite

  • 57:10

    part of the show. I got She ain't said nothing wrong though.

  • 57:16

    But you run the but you run the risk of being trapped. Quote unquote trapped. Hey yo, now I was that Gracie came with

  • 57:24

    some crazy and mushroom coffee. I was in the gift bag.

  • 57:31

    Oh, look. Look at telling [ __ ] post secrets. She blowing [ __ ] up. Uh,

  • 57:37

    it is time for our favorite part of the show. Yes, it is. You ain't going to do the intro cuz you going to try to get back on somebody? Never. Can you think

  • 57:43

    about my question before you just rush out there? I No, because I know. Have you never thought Never. Oh my god. Let

  • 57:49

    him finish. All right. Go ahead. Go ahead. Finish. Have you never ever ever ever thought about trapping a man?

  • 57:56

    Literally, that I knew that was the end of the end of the question. That's why I was answering. Well, show me the respect and let me finish. Okay. Respect.

  • 58:04

    Are you finished? I'm done. Okay. Emphatically know. And y'all know what

  • 58:09

    my roster [ __ ] look like. I don't know. I don't know. Yes. [ __ ] you. We don't know that, man. Come on. I don't

  • 58:15

    know. I don't know. Rex Rex. Rex. Rex. We got Rex.

  • 58:21

    Rex. And if I was If I was If I was that type of girl, I could have done it five

  • 58:28

    times. We don't know what your [ __ ] Yes, you do. Yes, you do.

  • 58:33

    else turn on. I could have done it several times over if I was that type of woman. I'm not. It's just it's not it's

  • 58:38

    not my thing. It never was. Man, when you was running around dating them young [ __ ] you was trapping. What do you

  • 58:43

    tra you do remember? I was young at the time, too.

  • 58:49

    Yes. Now was part now it's time and I'm still

  • 58:55

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  • 59:01

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    Go Knicks. Yeah, Matthews. Go Knicks. We won the other night. I can't come in

  • 1:00:41

    here and get braggadocious because of the way that the pod schedule aligns with the playoff schedule.

  • 1:00:48

    By the time you hearing this, we play tonight. It's in Indiana. It could go bad. I would come in here with egg on my

  • 1:00:55

    face. Mark would come in here with [ __ ] uh Dale Davis, Antonio Davis.

  • 1:01:01

    So, I want to be So, I want to be respectful. Good game. Glad the Knicks

  • 1:01:06

    did what we had to do in game five. Uh hopefully we pull it out in game six and

  • 1:01:11

    we return to the Garden for game seven. That's what you have home court advantage for. and you knew they won two

  • 1:01:18

    in the garden that you would have to win two in Indiana. So, I mean, there's no surprises here. Um, and with that said,

  • 1:01:24

    good luck. Good luck to them, man. Uh, we'll see. We'll see what you don't feel

  • 1:01:31

    confident, though. It's a little I feel as confident as you could feel going into the situation. I'm going to keep it

  • 1:01:36

    a buck though. Um, if anybody could do it, y'all could. You know, I don't want y'all to win. But the Knicks is tough.

  • 1:01:42

    Yo, they play hard. They scrappy. They got heart the size of Lions. So if anybody could do it, y'all could I look

  • 1:01:48

    at it like this. The series should be 32 New York right now and then we would go

  • 1:01:53

    to Indiana and lose and come back home and win it in seven. Why you say that? Uh because the Knicks should win game

  • 1:01:59

    one, they lose game two. The Knicks should win game three, they lose game

  • 1:02:05

    four, they should It's reversed. They win game five in the Garden, go to Indiana to lose in game six, and then

  • 1:02:12

    you come home and win in game seven. But it didn't happen like that. So, that's how I see it. But, we'll see. Yeah. I

  • 1:02:18

    don't want to date the conversation by talking about Nicks. Go Knicks. I'm with you guys. And and that's that. Uh, what

  • 1:02:25

    else can we argue about? What else can we fight about or get along about, but

  • 1:02:30

    get along don't sound fun to me. We haven't talked new music in a very long time. There hasn't been no music to talk

  • 1:02:35

    about in a very long time. It's over for all these [ __ ] Ain't no music to talk about. Oh, sorry.

  • 1:02:42

    Sorry. We got some drops this week. Yeah, this week with some some music. Leon Leon Thomas dropped dropped the Mut

  • 1:02:48

    Deluxe. Deluxe, which I usually stay away from. It's very good. No, it's fire. Yeah, it's fire. It's heat on

  • 1:02:53

    there. I was going to play one, too, but [ __ ] it. You got it. Clips is back. That's what I cared about. The album.

  • 1:02:59

    The album is coming July 11th. July 11th. Single is out. How much sound freeze? I I It sounds exactly what you

  • 1:03:07

    expect from from the clips. Play a little bit. Play a little bit. [ __ ] We don't want to take your word for We need

  • 1:03:12

    you, Lord. We need to hear no malice. No malice is bad. No malice like there's no

  • 1:03:18

    malice. No malice. No malice. Not malice. No malice. He's a man of God. That's right. Like

  • 1:03:24

    me. But you can't. Okay. I'll wait to hear it. Got you. You a Christian?

  • 1:03:30

    No, [ __ ] He's a Pentecostal. He's Pentecostal. Pentecostal is Christian. Ain't Christian.

  • 1:03:38

    Yeah. It's a certain division. Certain division. Christian light. What are you is that is not light. What are you

  • 1:03:44

    Catholic? Pentecostals with them [ __ ] that be what are you? Fire and brimstone. You got you in a mega church.

  • 1:03:52

    Yo, bro. Leave me alone, man. When gets in his dark bag, Fel in his

  • 1:03:58

    dark just I'm going to banger you. I'm about to ask you and freeze the demonic bag. I'm about to ask you and freeze.

  • 1:04:03

    Does this change our recent perception of Farel? Like if I go in a studio and a

  • 1:04:09

    producer turns this beat on beat only, it's Rap City. It's big ticket rap city. This beat is phenomenal. I I've heard

  • 1:04:16

    three other beats from this album that are that all sound phenomenal. Is Farel using the clips to get back some of get

  • 1:04:23

    back some of his rep. Like for lost some of his He did he lost a step a little bit, but I mean last time he was with

  • 1:04:29

    Clips it was banger [ __ ] all hell. Yeah, but the last time he was with Travis

  • 1:04:34

    Scott it was not. And the last time he was with some other people, you know how we've judged for real. You're right. You're right. These beats sound like

  • 1:04:40

    sometimes he's kicking his ass in the lawsuit. When I get with them is different. That's all. That just sound

  • 1:04:46

    like a certain synergy. That's just something needs to be said. The push inspiring or clips inspiring Farel and

  • 1:04:54

    Kanye the way that they do. Oh, for sure. Something needs to be said about that. Yeah. Kanye tweet inspired him

  • 1:05:01

    now. He he tweeted he missed Push's friendship. Well, stop being a [ __ ] ass [ __ ] then. If you just stop being a

  • 1:05:07

    [ __ ] ass [ __ ] to [ __ ] then the real [ __ ] will stick around a little bit. True. But you soft and you suck dick for

  • 1:05:13

    so many years that [ __ ] could smell that stench on your breath still like like halattosis. Like dicktosis in your

  • 1:05:20

    mouth, [ __ ] [Laughter]

  • 1:05:25

    Oh, pause this. Pause this. Pause this. Pause this. You still got it. Pause this. You ain't missed a step, bro. You

  • 1:05:30

    hear his verse on Push's album on the Nego album? No, we didn't hear all that [ __ ] you heard, man. Oh, sorry. Well,

  • 1:05:36

    you should be listening, right? I'm joking. I'm joking. He ain't missed a step. I think something needs to even be

  • 1:05:42

    said about that. To step away as long as he's stepped away and to come back sounding like that, he still sound like

  • 1:05:48

    Lord Willink kind of. Yeah. Yeah. This is when they was arguing about

  • 1:05:54

    who's the best rapper in the clips, right? I'm not saying that ever again because I got dissed because of it. I'm

  • 1:06:00

    out of that conversation. Who did you say? I said Malice was the best rapper in the clips and pushing T didn't like

  • 1:06:07

    that. You got to shut up. And I caught bars because of it. You can't say Malice is better when Malice went to go join a

  • 1:06:12

    church and I was 15 years old years ago. This was back then. Got it. Got it. Oh, back then a lot of people said Malice.

  • 1:06:18

    Well, he didn't care that they said it. When I said it, it was a [ __ ] problem. That's funny. Well, your voice is strong. It's funny about that. That's

  • 1:06:26

    your brother getting the props. Like that's how competitive they are. Your voice is too powerful, which is what he said in response like that. Yeah, for

  • 1:06:32

    real. It wasn't It don't matter, Ice. This Your voice is strong. Sorry, buddy.

  • 1:06:38

    Um, this is fire. This album is going to be sick. Yeah, it is. It sound like it's out. It's really going to be sick, man.

  • 1:06:46

    They got They got their distribution set up. They probably have a date now, right? Yeah. July 11th. Yeah, July 11.

  • 1:06:52

    They've been doing great since they left Jim Jones alone, man. Jim Jones put them boys Jimmy put them boys back on the Let

  • 1:06:58

    me stop the push and diss me. Hey, Push. I got to perpetuate the beef.

  • 1:07:04

    I'm sorry. Even if you diss me, you know I love you, [ __ ] I don't care. I'm going give them up here, too. Don't worry. They'll be up here. Push gave

  • 1:07:10

    this podcast arguably the greatest interview it's ever had. Yeah, that's nice. That was great. Arguably the greatest interview it's ever had. I was

  • 1:07:16

    in Starless when I got that call from Karen. Yo, Push want to come right at the height of the beef. You want to tell it all. Wait, wait. What? You come to

  • 1:07:23

    the house. You know what? Let me get out of here. Big business move. Shout out to

  • 1:07:28

    the clips, man. Can't wait to hear this project. And shout out to Forel if he's showing up like that. He's showing up.

  • 1:07:34

    Uh, what other music came out? Honey Baby came out. I didn't get a chance to check it out yet in my R&B bag, but

  • 1:07:40

    yeah. Album. You know, I support Honey Baby. Honey, we we love her. Shout out to Kmag. Honey Baby and all that. Uh,

  • 1:07:47

    what else came out? What else came out? Yay Ali. Yeah. Yay Ali album. Yay Ali with a little EP. Five songs, 12

  • 1:07:54

    minutes. Yay Ali, I'mma [ __ ] you up. Not really. But if I see five song, it irks me to see 12 minutes. Yeah, that's And

  • 1:08:01

    if some of them songs came on, he had them boys on. He had December on there for one. This [ __ ] come on. 1 minute and 10 seconds. Yeah. At least stop

  • 1:08:07

    playing with me. [ __ ] are fans of you. We don't have time for this. Make it different. Yeah. Five songs need to be

  • 1:08:13

    at least 16 minutes for me. 12 minutes. That's too, man. By the time I take a

  • 1:08:18

    [ __ ] this [ __ ] is over. We can But it is fire and then run it back. But it is fire friend of the show. That's my man.

  • 1:08:25

    I [ __ ] with him. But you got to stop. We got new Meek Bill record. Yeah. Meek and G Herbbo. Oh, that [ __ ] is tough. You

  • 1:08:31

    like it like that? Meek's verse was very tough. That's what Yeah, that's that's where I came for. Okay. Y'all hating.

  • 1:08:39

    I'm not hating. Are we playing something? We ain't got nothing. It's a music podcast.

  • 1:08:46

    Pause this. What does that mean? I'm getting I'm getting too old now to decipher lyrics. When we catch you, it's just going to be the Super Bowl. What

  • 1:08:52

    does that mean? It's going to be a performance.

  • 1:08:57

    Oh, I I didn't know. Shoot out to me. I don't know. I don't know. Performance. We going to perform. I feel like that's

  • 1:09:02

    the closest. Yeah. It's going to be the Super Bowl weekend. We going to perform. We going to show out, [ __ ] Yeah. I

  • 1:09:09

    don't know. Okay. Okay. Going to kick a field goal, [ __ ] Who knows? Oh, [ __ ] you talking about. Hey, the [ __ ] he talking to though? I don't never want to

  • 1:09:15

    go old enough to where I can't decipher rap lyrics no more. Then I I might as well go [ __ ] listen. I might as well

  • 1:09:21

    go tuck my tuck myself in. Listen to gospel. If I can't decipher a rap lyric, I'm like, man, I'm going to listen to

  • 1:09:26

    Johny. There you go. Facts. Mel, watch yourself.

  • 1:09:33

    Shout out to Meek Mill, man. I like the record. I like the record. Yeah, that record sounds good. I want to shout out

  • 1:09:39

    Chad West just because Okay. Shout out to Chad West. Just cuz when I hear the Philly rappers, I think of me rapping

  • 1:09:45

    with the Philly rappers. I think of Chad West Beats. Okay. I just think of Chad West. Yeah. Wonder what he's up to. I

  • 1:09:52

    wonder if he still got a a package of some crazy [ __ ] over there. Paul, I'm sure you do.

  • 1:09:57

    I'm sure you do. I want to rap. Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure you do. I do. I do. I

  • 1:10:03

    ain't going to lie. The only thing that stops you is I don't I don't have the beat packs, so I don't And I don't

  • 1:10:09

    request them. I don't add. But if I ever ask Alchemist or Chad West or one of these [ __ ] I love, what's my man for

  • 1:10:14

    Seattle? I love Jake War. If I just start hitting [ __ ] I love that I know got something, it's going to make me do something. I was on ransom page the

  • 1:10:20

    other day. He was like, "Yo, here goes something I never put out." And I'm playing this [ __ ] I'm like, "Oh man,

  • 1:10:25

    god damn. This sound like I need to call him. This sound like a Joe button remix Survivor heard it." And he start DMing,

  • 1:10:32

    "Nigga, stop that podcast and [ __ ] You know who you are. You know who you are in your heart, in your soul, [ __ ] You

  • 1:10:38

    want to come back to the game? Do it. [ __ ] that P shit." Ransom was super me up.

  • 1:10:45

    Got the Rory's 38 special. All them [ __ ] we back.

  • 1:10:51

    I'm here for it. That's fire. I'm here for it. Think you can hang with them today? No, I'm not trying to shoot. No,

  • 1:10:58

    we ask, [ __ ] [ __ ] that. Do you think you still got it, [ __ ] Cuz these [ __ ] been active at a high quality.

  • 1:11:03

    How's your breath control? Is that Oh, now she playing with you. See? See? Okay. All right. A legit question.

  • 1:11:09

    That's the other part. I want to hear what what the verse sounds like when you stop smoking and breath control. That's one of the reasons I retired. I wanted

  • 1:11:15

    to go smoke in peace tonight for real. And like a rocking grandpa that you sit

  • 1:11:20

    here and smoke. Yeah. Yeah. You need breath control to be what [ __ ] huh? Your mind ain't stopped. What do you

  • 1:11:27

    mean, [ __ ] You could rap. I I I think it would take you three, four, five months to start getting your [ __ ] back,

  • 1:11:33

    but your brain didn't stop. [ __ ] you witty. You funny. For me, I'm only talking about for me. I'm not talking about Well, I I'm the only one that can

  • 1:11:40

    speak from this POB cuz I'm the only rapper that actually retired. Yeah, I forgot about that part. For me, I heard

  • 1:11:46

    a Nory reverse today. He's on mascul. Nori ain't stop ain't stopped rapping. Yeah, Nor ain't stopped rapping. Is kind

  • 1:11:52

    of tough too. [ __ ] Nori for me. Thinking of something in my head and not

  • 1:11:58

    being able to execute it the way I heard it was a deterrent. Like not having the breath control to do

  • 1:12:04

    what you hearing in your head and then punching in certain parts. It was like that was demoralizing. And your politics and [ __ ] was [ __ ] you up that time.

  • 1:12:10

    Then then then to make some money, you had to tour it. It's like,

  • 1:12:16

    nah, let me go. It's a lot of work in there. Let me just go sit at home. Ransom, though. I read that home and sell a million copies from Patreon. And

  • 1:12:24

    I feel like, well, not even selling a million copies, but I feel like now I'm almost to the point where I can do a

  • 1:12:30

    passion project. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, absolutely. For real. Yeah, but we shouldn't sleep on it. I've never in my life been in a place where For real.

  • 1:12:37

    That passion project, right? So, what does that even look like or sound like? anything you wanted to. That's the

  • 1:12:44

    beauty of it. Even without even without rapping, and we'll move on from this because I don't want to s myself. I do

  • 1:12:49

    miss hearing a beat and being like, oh [ __ ] Like if nothing else, I miss the

  • 1:12:56

    discovery of I always tell people the like even just when I'm talking to people like, "Yo, you and Joe old music

  • 1:13:03

    shit." I'm like, "Yo, I never forget that day we was in Jersey Girls and Russian Roulette came on. You had just came off tour that face like I never saw

  • 1:13:11

    that before. This [ __ ] was like like you was in a trance like yo what the [ __ ] is this? Yo no we we got to go. I

  • 1:13:18

    can't believe Rock going to play that [ __ ] in there. What the [ __ ] is this? Ain't nobody rapping on this. This [ __ ]

  • 1:13:23

    was like yo we got got to go. Um what else is super important that needs our attention or unimportant that needs our

  • 1:13:31

    attention? Trump is out here partnering folks. He partnering [ __ ] Okay let's get to it. Now, my my my first time

  • 1:13:37

    hearing some of the theories that's going on out there was Mark Lamont on our last part where he was like, "Yo, there's rumblings of Trump wanting to

  • 1:13:43

    let out uh Derek Shan." I I've never heard that until he Yeah. Yeah. about five months. I mean, if I'm rallying and

  • 1:13:50

    everything, if I'm just looking at the optics, I mean, it looks that way. Yeah, it does. Yeah. So, we going we going we going to pacify the black people by

  • 1:13:57

    letting out a couple people that they might be championing for. You understand what I'm saying? So, uh, supposedly he

  • 1:14:04

    pardoned NBA Young Boy and he also pardoned Larry Larry commuted his federal sentence.

  • 1:14:11

    Yeah, cuz he still got his state. So, he got I think 150 years ago. It's true. I

  • 1:14:18

    don't know what Larry Huber got. I do. I'm [ __ ] with So, so I think that's just a pacif pacification cuz I'm about

  • 1:14:26

    to get into my wild bag and I don't want nobody say it's racism. So, let me So, let me throw a couple tidbits to black

  • 1:14:33

    people so they can shut the [ __ ] up when I start. Well, I looked at it the other way. Like, I don't think it is racism. I

  • 1:14:39

    think it's I'm literally just trying to get all y'all I'm going to do something you like because again, if he pardon Chovin, he still got a state state case

  • 1:14:45

    as well. Yeah. So, you're not coming home tomorrow either. It's just like I'm

  • 1:14:50

    I'mma pacify this base. I'mma pacify that base. Okay. Y'all the young [ __ ] y'all like NBA Young Boy? I'm going

  • 1:14:56

    pacify y'all with him. And with Hoover, it's not necessarily about pacifying black folks. It's a dig at the current

  • 1:15:03

    governor of Illinois who has made claims that he wants to run for president. And

  • 1:15:08

    this was Trump's way of [ __ ] with him because he can because he can commute because he can commute his federal um

  • 1:15:15

    his federal um case, but he can't do anything about the state. So now it's up to him. And everybody feels like Larry

  • 1:15:22

    Hoover should be let out. Everybody don't feel like they don't feel actually there's a big conversation going on

  • 1:15:27

    right now that they keep having when the likes of Amiche or whoever come out of the younger people like hey why are we

  • 1:15:32

    celebrating these people being released well yeah I mean well I'm I'm saying he has a massive amount I think that's what

  • 1:15:38

    I'm saying I do think I do think that's corny I want to make my position clear that's corny the young kids doing that

  • 1:15:44

    the [ __ ] that they did with me and the [ __ ] they doing with Larry Hoover when they announced Larry Hoover has been incarcerated since 1972 and I just sat

  • 1:15:51

    and thought about how old I am and my life and how old he got to be. You've

  • 1:15:57

    been in jail before we was born. Before all of us was born. Cuz I ain't seeing the 65 and 70 year old people commenting

  • 1:16:04

    on this. It's all It's all a bunch of people that just got here. Just got shot

  • 1:16:09

    out of penis when he was arrested already. Most of them people are dead. He and his wife are still together.

  • 1:16:16

    They've been married 50 years. Like what are we talking about, [ __ ] I'm 49. I was born in 76. So he got locked up in

  • 1:16:24

    73. He been locked up for 52 years. 22 years old. And he was already grown when he went to jail. So you 74 years old.

  • 1:16:31

    Who the [ __ ] is going to be commenting on that? I just believe in uh redemption. Me too. I believe no matter

  • 1:16:38

    who you are to 22 that you can change. I I know some people are against that. I

  • 1:16:43

    believe that humans can change. I believe that as well. Well, that's just this new generation that believes like

  • 1:16:48

    when do you whatsoever? They don't want the internet generation don't want any. You could tell when you listening to

  • 1:16:54

    [ __ ] who didn't get spankings. Like you could tell [ __ ] that was raised after spankings was dead. These [ __ ]

  • 1:17:01

    not only do they have opinion, they voice. Why are we celebrating Larry with a [ __ ] Shut up.

  • 1:17:08

    They also He also pardoned the Chryslies. See? Mhm. And that and that be reality

  • 1:17:14

    show [ __ ] which is wild but whatever. Why is that wild? Who is that? I don't know who that is. Why is that wild?

  • 1:17:20

    Chrysley knows best. Todd Chrisley. Todd Chrysley and his wife. I can't remember what her name is. Um Yeah. I mean, just,

  • 1:17:27

    you know, they were they were charged with like multiple counts of fraud and all kinds of [ __ ] Yeah.

  • 1:17:34

    My thing my my whole thing be where do we how do we pick? You know what I'm

  • 1:17:41

    saying? Like just random folks. But the the daughter Savannah was doing some

  • 1:17:46

    [ __ ] with Trump and was and was supporting him. Yeah. at the million dollar uh million dollar a plate dinner

  • 1:17:52

    dinner. Mhm. So yeah, I mean how Yeah. He don't play. Yo, wash my back. I'mma

  • 1:17:59

    wash your back. And that's how we moving. And I I just feel like at one point, you know, when the president

  • 1:18:04

    started their commutations or pardons and stuff like that, it was people who,

  • 1:18:10

    you know, had been incarcerated and unjustly unjustly. Or it was like Yeah.

  • 1:18:16

    or it was like, you know, just like um a really like, you know, a an abnormally

  • 1:18:22

    long sentence or political prisoners, [ __ ] like that. And now it's like we're pardoning NBA Young Boy. I mean, good,

  • 1:18:30

    you know, congratulations, but um Todd Chrisley and his wife, like it's just [ __ ] weird. Like the selection of

  • 1:18:37

    people to be pardoned and stuff like that. What's starting to to to be more and more and more evident in my opinion

  • 1:18:42

    is money talks. That's it. Yeah. And they used to hide that money talks back in the day. So you could give a donation

  • 1:18:49

    to a [ __ ] under the table, nobody would know. Especially with the internet generation. Now if you donate a million

  • 1:18:54

    dollars a plate, everybody [ __ ] knows, right? If you go get a jet overseas, the whole internet knows. I

  • 1:19:01

    think back in the day it was more hidden that the these favors were going on. I don't want to attack what you're saying

  • 1:19:06

    cuz I agree. Money talks. The scary part is that celebrities seems to talk just

  • 1:19:12

    as loud. Yeah. Because because you know that's the scary part. He traded Britney Grryer for the merchant of death and

  • 1:19:19

    thought it was fair value who was the GM based on and I do think that she should

  • 1:19:25

    have came. I don't believe I agree with that as well. But it's a thing that but how we value that over here versus how

  • 1:19:31

    what other people may value. It's just the internet speaks. But when you are

  • 1:19:36

    catering to Wayne, when you are catering to NBA Young Boy, when you catering to some of these um celebrities, money

  • 1:19:44

    comes from that indirectly. Exactly. Money comes from that. Popularity comes from that. Like that [ __ ] is different,

  • 1:19:49

    bro. Back to your celebrity again. He was running and had Chef G and him out there with him. Like you get what I'm

  • 1:19:54

    saying? like he's moving around with the what's going to Donald Trump is a celebrity. He's playing celebrity

  • 1:20:00

    relationship games. No other president really moved this way cuz they weren't

  • 1:20:05

    celebrities first. Not just that no other he know like you was you were saying before Trump understands the

  • 1:20:11

    relationship aspect of everything. He understands people. I think to when we was talking about him during the

  • 1:20:17

    election time that the campaign that he ran, it was just masterful that whoever

  • 1:20:22

    on his team understood, yo, this demo, we need to go get Trick Trick. Donald Trump might not have known who Trick

  • 1:20:28

    Trick was. Somebody on my team knew that this man is influential out here in this

  • 1:20:33

    demographic of people. So, let's go get him. Right. Donald Trump. The gangsters know the gangsters.

  • 1:20:39

    Huh? That's what I'm saying, though. It's different. It's different. But No, no. I I agree. It's it's that Trump Trump knew Trump had his polls close to

  • 1:20:46

    the trick trick than [ __ ] Kamla. A point that's my point I'm making though. So he understands like yo

  • 1:20:52

    dog the dude that uh went to jail for Trump and he he pardoned him.

  • 1:20:58

    So you going to go sit up for me and show your loyalty. I'm going show you back coming right home. Got the

  • 1:21:04

    relationship. Don't snitch. Yeah. Like so he just comes from that like dog Donald Trump casino owner in the8s. He

  • 1:21:11

    was talking to mobsters, [ __ ] Who was like a mobster? Atlantic City gambling, all that [ __ ] back in the 80s. It wasn't

  • 1:21:17

    no. It wasn't no, you know, the other labels. No, I'm not. I'm saying don't

  • 1:21:23

    even say it. No, none of that stuff was out here. It was It was lowkey.

  • 1:21:28

    There you go. Clean that up. No, I'm Yo, you understand what I'm saying, dog?

  • 1:21:33

    Let's go, man. Like, that [ __ ] had the poly with real, you know what I mean? and and and those

  • 1:21:38

    those lessons the average politician don't have. That boy will not let Joe Exotic out of jail. I'll tell you that

  • 1:21:44

    one, man. It I'm getting sad. I'm getting sad. Joe Exotic pouring his heart out. Yo, I didn't kill them

  • 1:21:50

    people. I didn't feed them to the Tigers. They know who did it and they just got me sitting here. Trump, please

  • 1:21:55

    do something. Trump is like, "Dog, you're done here." What am I going to get from Joe Exotic? No voting. The

  • 1:22:03

    future looks exciting because and not exciting. And that may be a poor choice of words because you know that he be on

  • 1:22:09

    [ __ ] [ __ ] So at this point you could sit home and just start throwing [ __ ] at the wall. Like maybe he will. What if he

  • 1:22:15

    pardon Puff? Yeah. Like what if he just start pardon? You start throwing mad names out there like he could really

  • 1:22:22

    shake [ __ ] up with his pen. He could. Yeah. That's spooky [ __ ] And and that's

  • 1:22:27

    scary. Another piece to the pardons that we want to put um out here also is they

  • 1:22:32

    just signed one of the the bill. They call it the big the big beautiful bill. So now we gonna throw all of these

  • 1:22:38

    celebrities out here to to distract you while we behind the scenes doing some real life [ __ ] that could affect

  • 1:22:43

    everybody. Um if we're done with this, I would like

  • 1:22:48

    to shout somebody out. By all means. Okay. I would like to spam call me. I

  • 1:22:55

    would like to shout out Faison Zaki.

  • 1:23:01

    Okay. Who's that? That is the 13-year-old winner of the hundth annual

  • 1:23:08

    scripts spelling be. You spelling be? I love the spelling be.

  • 1:23:14

    I know. I absolutely love the spelling be. So imagine my surprise when I'm home

  • 1:23:20

    and it comes on the news that not only is this the hundth one, but the word that he won on was some wow [ __ ] A

  • 1:23:29

    claris a clarissimant a clarismant that's the word that you want

  • 1:23:35

    on it's a French word that means clearing up the clearing up of something

  • 1:23:40

    obscure can can you use it in a sentence he'll whip your ass your word is

  • 1:23:46

    aclar c small aclair c small c now before he does this he ain't even ask

  • 1:23:52

    yeah he didn't ask what's the word he's ready to go r o yeah he clarification.

  • 1:23:58

    Sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Would anyone here

  • 1:24:05

    like to give it a go at spelling this word? I'm not a clar. Show

  • 1:24:13

    us AC. Say it again. What's the word? What's the word? [ __ ] it. We going to do it.

  • 1:24:19

    AC with your phone. We didn't ask you nothing. The word is

  • 1:24:25

    a clar C small. A clear cmon. Stop. A clear cmon. E C L A I R. You think it's

  • 1:24:35

    one C or two C's? I think it's two. You're right so far. E clear. Yeah. C E C. We was right. L E R. He's correct

  • 1:24:44

    with it. Eclair. He spelled Eclair. It begins with Eclair. Now it gets the rest

  • 1:24:49

    of it. E. Just say I don't know how to say it. small. Your word is

  • 1:24:56

    a cla c small. A clar small e. I think ends in a t small. You keep you keep in

  • 1:25:04

    mind it's French. So it might be a go m. We got small. E c l a i r c i s e m e n

  • 1:25:18

    t. What? That is correct. Yo, excuse me. No, no, no, no, no. Yes. I'm kissing my

  • 1:25:25

    ass. L A I R. Kissing my ass. C I S S E

  • 1:25:31

    M E N T. [ __ ] are you crazy? Round of applause. Stop playing. Stop playing with him.

  • 1:25:41

    All right, bet. Faison Zaki at 13. Yeah. Wow. Congratulations. I'm such a fan of

  • 1:25:47

    Spell. I am. Um, what else do we have here? We got Larry Hard. Uh, Larry

  • 1:25:53

    Hoover. Tory Lanz. Tory Lanz. More Tory. Yo, I know on Big

  • 1:25:58

    Freeze, right? No. No. Hell no. You got to know where the hell we nowhere to take it. Take it super

  • 1:26:05

    further. I don't believe you trying. Take it further, Freeze. There's nowhere to take it. Um the the Florida uh

  • 1:26:12

    congresswoman has been saying that there was going to be new evidence dropped and old evidence was repackaged as new

  • 1:26:21

    evidence and dropped. That's really what happened. Okay. Like everything that

  • 1:26:27

    we've heard, not just old evidence, but uh evidence that was

  • 1:26:32

    forbidden, stealed, suppressed. They dropped a website. They're dropped

  • 1:26:37

    dropping everything. with everything up there. Um, we did get to see the the body cam footage of of her being

  • 1:26:44

    interrogated after the the um arrest. Yeah. What about the the the

  • 1:26:51

    witness shoot? No, no, he saw the women fighting. He saw the woman fight. Said he the the the woman got out the back

  • 1:26:57

    seat, brushed the front, hit the back, started fighting each other, went getting out the car. Then he said he saw

  • 1:27:03

    a shoot. Oh, he did say that. But it started with a fight and that part was never disclosed or or even if it he said

  • 1:27:11

    what looks to be what appeared to be a woman. He said it was dark. It was far

  • 1:27:16

    but I saw what appeared to be a woman do yada yada yada yada. So and and he asked him did where was the man? Where was the

  • 1:27:24

    the the black man? He said he was in the back seat. He did. I know.

  • 1:27:29

    Um, how did he know he was in the back seat if it was like a dark night tinted window SUV? The doors opened up. He seen

  • 1:27:37

    somebody get out eventually and go to the other door. You're not helping the black. I'm No, I'm just asking for clarification. You don't The real the

  • 1:27:46

    true crime mind came the [ __ ] out. Okay, I'm sorry. I'm just ask, you know,

  • 1:27:52

    Melissa Harris, put him in jail. Y'all going to be safe. That's what male will do. Melissa Harris. Lock him up. Throw

  • 1:28:00

    it away. Melissa Harris Jr. I'll take it. Anyway, no. Some of the legal [ __ ]

  • 1:28:05

    that be going on behind closed doors is the most important [ __ ] Like the [ __ ] that articulates the argument, he be

  • 1:28:13

    fly, he be dope. Like the cockerings and all of them that we see. But the people that be in behind closed doors like,

  • 1:28:18

    "Yo, Ro versus blah blah blah 1943 said, yo, this should be stricken." And that

  • 1:28:24

    be important evidence that they'll get suppressed. Yeah. or the the police didn't do something the right way,

  • 1:28:29

    they'll get that [ __ ] thrown out. [ __ ] have gone in. I just said it. Researching case law. Sorry. Uh is to

  • 1:28:35

    interrupt you. Just And Trump says he won't rule out pardoning Diddy if convicted. We'll look at it. Just I can

  • 1:28:40

    believe it. All you want to do is shake something up. Yeah, I could believe it. I'm sorry. And get a piece of money in

  • 1:28:46

    the back. But um No, like they there have been times where somebody could be clearly guilty, right? Somebody might

  • 1:28:52

    have shot somebody. How y'all got the murder weapon, y'all [ __ ] up. Yeah. And so now they have to strike all of

  • 1:28:58

    that [ __ ] The person could go free just based on case law and this shouldn't be admissible. This shouldn't be admissible

  • 1:29:04

    and now we can't bring it to court. So seizure, all that kind of [ __ ] [ __ ] got cold cases thrown out. Birds in the

  • 1:29:10

    car. Birds in the car. Search and seizure. Home for you ain't read a [ __ ] they write some stupid [ __ ] and a [ __ ]

  • 1:29:15

    will go home and you have probable cause to pull his car over. I'm tired of this [ __ ] You wanted to go protect black women. You wanted to go [ __ ] two broads

  • 1:29:23

    at the same time. One of them got immunity. You still didn't get up there and say that's the [ __ ] that did it right there. I've been telling y'all for

  • 1:29:30

    years to a shoot that girl. But who am I? What do I know? All y'all did was say that everybody that said that hated

  • 1:29:35

    black women. So, I mean, y'all don't make it y'all don't make it a comfortable, warm space for dialogue or

  • 1:29:42

    to share or conversation to be had. Uh, I think two things will be true. I think he deserve to be there for not fighting

  • 1:29:48

    his case properly. Yeah. That's that's all I take away from it right there. He ain't telling me nothing. I didn't know

  • 1:29:54

    that. I mean, no, I know. Like all I all I see in this case is bad legal representation. If your lawyers did this

  • 1:30:01

    and allowed it to go this way, what you want me to do? That's bad. I don't know what [ __ ] paid for their attorney, but

  • 1:30:08

    if the person that I need to throw everything on because that's who did something has immunity, then that's the

  • 1:30:14

    perfect time for me to say, "Hey, this is the person that did it." I don't know what he was trying to pull. You know what I think? That's true. No, you know

  • 1:30:20

    what I think? What? I think he got caught up in the, "Yo, I'm not snitching because of how it's going to make me

  • 1:30:25

    look to the public." Well, it salute. That's what he did. I think he was like,

  • 1:30:31

    "Yo, I don't have to snitch on her to prove my innocence. I just have to create a reasonable doubt." And I think they failed at creating a Well, they

  • 1:30:38

    they buddy, I don't care. Whatever. Stupid seeds grow stupid plants. I don't I don't I don't care about this. Like,

  • 1:30:44

    we've done this. Yo, that's how bro. I'm on to I'm team Tori. saying, "I've been

  • 1:30:49

    saying forever that he didn't do this. I've been saying forever that now we stuck with Meg's music.

  • 1:30:55

    Deal with it now." Yeah. Deal with it. I'mma wait. I'mma wait the 5 years

  • 1:31:02

    or however many years is left till the talented young man can actually get back in a real recording studio so I can hear

  • 1:31:09

    some music. Let me ask y'all this. Do y'all think this this new drop changes anything? No, I don't think any of these

  • 1:31:15

    new drops. That's my point. Like what? I think No, I think it's creating reasonable doubt on more people. Okay.

  • 1:31:21

    But does this change anything? Yeah. Does this change anything for him? It could. I mean, that's what their hopes

  • 1:31:27

    are. Let's just say hypothetically they bring the Innocence Project go pick it up and then Exactly. Like the Menendez

  • 1:31:32

    brothers, doc. Like, if you could just get enough people in the court of public opinion to change how they see things,

  • 1:31:38

    then maybe we can get this thing. The Innocence Project's not picking this up. How you know that? Because the Innocence Project, it don't sound like you rooting

  • 1:31:44

    for it. No, it has nothing to do with that. It just has to do with the focus of the Innocence Project. They basically

  • 1:31:49

    go after cases that um of the wrongly convicted based on DNA evidence, you

  • 1:31:55

    know, that has never been tested, you know, longterm prison sentences and stuff like that. That's usually what the

  • 1:32:01

    Innocence Project goes after. You know, there's a million programs that act as the Innocence Project. That's true. You

  • 1:32:07

    know, the Innocence Project is not the only program to No, they have chapters and and every single other people, not

  • 1:32:13

    even if we're going to be talking about the Innocence Project itself. We just mean a group. I just I just use their

  • 1:32:20

    name specifically. I just use their name. Any group any group would pick. He might have luck on the appellet court

  • 1:32:25

    circuit. Well, speak like that. Yeah. Like speak more than speaking [ __ ] Well, man, when I when we

  • 1:32:32

    was talking about it initially, it sounds like your mom was made up. It's time to dog pile now. No, no, not dog

  • 1:32:38

    pile. Like I No, I'm not dog piling, but I want to ask her. Even though there's new evidence that come out, you probably

  • 1:32:44

    was aware of the evidence. Does not does it not change your view on you want him free. Hold on. Wait, wait, Joe. Come on,

  • 1:32:49

    man. Sorry. I didn't mean to talk like that. I'm sorry. Does it not change your view on the situation now? Like, cuz it

  • 1:32:55

    it seems like once your mind is made up, it's made up. But since the new No, that's not true. I that's I said it seems like I could be wrong. I I will

  • 1:33:02

    always leave room for my mind to be changed based on new information. I am I don't just stick to something just

  • 1:33:08

    because that's the opinion that I have. I'm always welcome to hearing new information. So what about the information? But it just sounds like I

  • 1:33:13

    said it just sounds like it's old information repackaged. Okay. You know, and we've had this and and we've had

  • 1:33:20

    this conversation before where we've all said that the sentence was, you know,

  • 1:33:25

    exorbitant and Yeah. Ex excessive. I got it. you know. But hey, my girl got the

  • 1:33:30

    new shades. Hey Tori, she she got your back now, boy.

  • 1:33:37

    Come on. Anyhoos, the America dream.

  • 1:33:43

    She better stop, please. Oh my god. I'm good. I'm down with you. I like I like

  • 1:33:48

    Yeah. Clean it up. I have to on Kelsey so [ __ ] fast. Are you crazy? Can't do that. That snitching ass, right? I don't

  • 1:33:55

    subscribe to that dumb [ __ ] That's not true. That's not true. You subscribe. I don't you know where you all come from. You can't do that for that. That's not I

  • 1:34:01

    hate when you do that cuz you change to get money now. That is not true. That's not true, bro. Ain't no point of getting

  • 1:34:07

    that cuz I just know too many stories I heard about you from real [ __ ] and other [ __ ] It's not back before he got if you would if you you would have

  • 1:34:13

    been told there plenty of situations you could have told on. Oh no, no, no, no, no. Listen, he wasn't looking at years. Wait. No, no. So what he's saying is

  • 1:34:19

    true. What he's saying is true. There has been a [ __ ] tried to blow my brains out. I ain't go to court. So what he's

  • 1:34:25

    saying is true. [ __ ] The [ __ ] that punched me in the face is a court case. I'm not going to the police to say, "Hey, a [ __ ] that punch punched me in

  • 1:34:30

    the face, do something about it." Now, I did snitch on that [ __ ] that stole my luggage out of the

  • 1:34:37

    water. You let go. He took it too far. You took

  • 1:34:42

    it. He got He got He took it further. They found him though. They goddamn they found with my go with my help. They

  • 1:34:48

    found him. This [ __ ] was an eye on the job. And I got a restrain order on that. I don't

  • 1:34:54

    know what he look like. Yo, they sent a text to my phone. Yo, just letting you know. You got to restrain. They let him

  • 1:34:59

    out automatically. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz he Yeah. You was ready to paint me in that nasty automatically. So, when

  • 1:35:06

    they sent me the text automatically cuz you ratted. Yeah. He could do something to you as a automatically cuz I wanted

  • 1:35:11

    to press charges. They automatically put a restrain order. When this this person can't come near you, I ran it on this [ __ ] They do that. So, they sent me

  • 1:35:17

    the text. But I had forgot that I ran it. No, no, no, no. For real. Like my my

  • 1:35:25

    memory is bad. You thought it was like your gun license. You like some [ __ ] going scam. Scam likely. No, I seen the

  • 1:35:30

    text and thought somebody had a restrain on on me. Like, yo, I ain't even been wilding out there lately. PTSD. Then I

  • 1:35:37

    seen it. They was like, uh, Joe Button is the defender. I was like, oh, to protect myself. Oh, they letting me know

  • 1:35:44

    this [ __ ] just came over. Oh, all right. Yeah, I r it on him. But homie to punch me in my face. Homie to try to kill me. [ __ ] point. I ain't I ain't

  • 1:35:51

    telling none of them [ __ ] But I guess what I'm saying is I reserve the right to. That's different though. I'm not not

  • 1:35:56

    telling because I'm following the script. It's your freedom when your freedom is on the line. I'm not going to

  • 1:36:02

    sit up in New Year for some [ __ ] I ain't do for nobody. Like homie to punch me in my face when we got to drop on him and

  • 1:36:08

    it's like all right. He's a [ __ ] he's on parole. He got warrants. It's like nah. Yeah. But that's not your freedom

  • 1:36:13

    on the line. That's not your You lucky that you know what I mean? Don't do it again. I press charges. Girl, listen.

  • 1:36:21

    Wait, what? Freeze. You talking about the chick that cut all that [ __ ] up in my crib? Yeah. Would you like to press

  • 1:36:29

    charges? Yes. Oh [ __ ] Yes. Order. I want I swear to God. She

  • 1:36:35

    got arrested. No. So what happened? My stepfather. My stepfather called me and he was like, "Yo, yo, you can't do

  • 1:36:42

    that." And I'm like, "Why? You see my [ __ ] My whole house is [ __ ] up." He was like, "Yo, but dog, listen. You

  • 1:36:49

    don't know what just one night in jail could do to somebody. Like that girl whole life could be [ __ ] up. I didn't

  • 1:36:55

    care. I'm like good, good little rotten [ __ ] That's that's what but he really broke it down to me like cuz he he was

  • 1:37:02

    you know he went through the system and [ __ ] was like real. He was just like yo

  • 1:37:07

    it could really [ __ ] up like everything. You told a girl. That's crazy. Well, first off, she cut his refrigerator

  • 1:37:14

    cord. [ __ ] I didn't go I wasn't I wasn't going to the house. He don't cook. No, look, real real [ __ ] I wasn't

  • 1:37:20

    going to the house without like when she told me what she was, I'm going to your house to [ __ ] your [ __ ] up. I called them and I'm like, y'all need to escort

  • 1:37:27

    to go home in case she's there. So now you can't say I did something to you. I'm protecting myself. That's smart. I

  • 1:37:33

    always want some some somebody around. That's smart. If [ __ ] go left, you can't say I did something cuz now once if it

  • 1:37:40

    becomes my word versus yours, I lose automatically. And I know that. I know too many people that got [ __ ] up that

  • 1:37:46

    way. So when she left me that message, first thing I did on my way home was call them. They was like, "Come by the

  • 1:37:51

    station, go home with an escort just in case." I'm like, "Yeah, you know what? Good idea. That's what I'm going to do."

  • 1:37:56

    They took no to everything. You got to escort for the night. Ice. Yes, my [ __ ] I'm not Yo, y'all don't

  • 1:38:01

    understand. I don't play with my I don't play with my friend. Ice. Just

  • 1:38:07

    listen to us for a second. Oh, sure. Please have at it. Come on. Cuz we here for this. No. No. For real. You my

  • 1:38:13

    brother. So you right and I understand whatever you talking about

  • 1:38:21

    that's cool. We not here for that. We here [ __ ]

  • 1:38:26

    out of here Sheree. We here get we here for the fun. Get your call the

  • 1:38:34

    cop and where was she? Now he was dead press charges. Yes. On top of that

  • 1:38:40

    I only like this. See, she little so she was a little chick at that. If you wouldn't get them to that point, then

  • 1:38:47

    they wouldn't have to do those things. True. Ice. Cool. But also control yourself. Don't listen to him. No, you

  • 1:38:52

    were wrong. Oh, no. You should have took her feelings into consideration before you decided to cheat and [ __ ]

  • 1:38:57

    excuse. Did you get eaten in real time that people that people don't know how to who who don't know how to regulate

  • 1:39:03

    their emotions, that's what they say. I'm angry and it's your fault. Your It's your fault that I am enraged. I want I I

  • 1:39:10

    wish I could put this [ __ ] on a video clip and have it on a flash drive for my pocket. The next time you blame some

  • 1:39:16

    females uh uh uh actions on a [ __ ] I I want you I want

  • 1:39:23

    you so flash that [ __ ]

  • 1:39:28

    out case by case basis. You just blame everything that [ __ ] Cardi is doing

  • 1:39:33

    on Offset. Huh? What? You blame everything Cardi doing on Offset. No, I didn't. I said she's out here living her

  • 1:39:40

    life. She be forgetting. He cheated first. He did first. He did. I didn't I didn't say that she's dating such and

  • 1:39:47

    such because he I told y'all it was time to dog pow. Y'all ain't want to listen. I did not say that at all. I She's

  • 1:39:52

    living her [ __ ] life. I'm not dog piling on. But when can we dog pow? Never. Leave her alone. Not dog pow.

  • 1:39:58

    She's been in about an hour. Thou shalt not dog pow. 11th

  • 1:40:05

    commandment. I don't even like dogs. You got caught cheating in a freeze. You You're that [ __ ] Freeze. What? You got

  • 1:40:11

    caught cheating in a crazy position. Boy, he got caught cheating. The girl cut his [ __ ] up and then he got caught

  • 1:40:16

    eating ass and she caught him. Hey, how you Yo, that's vicious. How the girl that was How the girl you was eating

  • 1:40:22

    didn't hear her coming through. Y'all [ __ ] you was that much into it. Yo, you didn't hear the door. [ __ ] is

  • 1:40:28

    Captain Crunch, [ __ ] I get it. I hate you, [ __ ] [ __ ] I hear somebody coming to the door. My [ __ ] [ __ ] Oh,

  • 1:40:34

    hey. You got hot. Jump out the window. You got to

  • 1:40:39

    wash your face on some glory [ __ ] Hey. Hey. Hey, boo. Kiss nasty [ __ ] Hey. Why your

  • 1:40:47

    breath smell like that? Huh? I just woke up. Salmonella.

  • 1:40:54

    I just woke up. Oh man. I was busy man. I ain't hear it. That's crazy. You a ill

  • 1:40:59

    [ __ ] Your story is just crazy. That's old [ __ ] Um do that no more. Y'all know that Fast Rihanna EDM sounding song came

  • 1:41:06

    out and we never covered it. The one from the Smurf soundtrack. Yeah, it was ass. Like the ones from the Black can't

  • 1:41:12

    say it was ass with their chest. Say it with the chest. It was ass. She You can't say and the Black Panther

  • 1:41:18

    soundtrack was ass. You can't say somebody pregnant. So she owed for two. The Black Panther one was just the Black

  • 1:41:24

    Panther one was not ass. Those was assy one, right? That was horrible.

  • 1:41:30

    That was a horrible one. This this Smurf [ __ ] was she was barely I could barely even tell if she was on that [ __ ] Is

  • 1:41:35

    Rihanna like just a legacy act now? Yes. Yes. Yeah. No. Like your

  • 1:41:43

    own ice this

  • 1:41:51

    is Rihanna just a legacy act now? No. No. Yes. Come on. She is until she puts

  • 1:41:56

    out more. What is What is a legacy act? Legacy Act tours based on a old catalog,

  • 1:42:01

    right? That's what she about to do. She She She not touring. Number one. Number two. And she's capable. She will not

  • 1:42:07

    tour until she gets another album out. What do we want to call her? Anything based on anything Rihanna based is based off you basing off old music off 10 15

  • 1:42:14

    year old music. That's a legacy act. That's a legacy act. I know that we still looking forward to hearing new music, but she ain't going to put no

  • 1:42:20

    music out. Oh, I know. And she ain't going to nobody tour either. That makes her legacy act. I don't think you have to be on tour to be a legacy act. She's

  • 1:42:27

    a legacy act. Find out. We don't wear any of that ADM Papa Smurf [ __ ] Get the [ __ ] out of here. I don't give a [ __ ]

  • 1:42:32

    But the white the black pen [ __ ] was not bad. I don't care about how fly them clothes is. Her ASAP is wearing. I'm

  • 1:42:37

    cool. I turned that EDM jail. I was like, "Oh [ __ ] I missed the Rihanna bop. I heard that shit." I was like, "Oh, that's why nobody covered this."

  • 1:42:44

    There's a reason nobody's covering the [ __ ] and she's earned like a lot of people just won't admit, won't say it like cuz she's pregnant, [ __ ] It ain't

  • 1:42:50

    got nothing to do with the pregnancy. I love so much. She's she's earned a pass with a lot of [ __ ] Yeah, I think so.

  • 1:42:56

    Based on definition, she's a legacy act. Uh, all right. We have a very, very, very special guest. Indeed. Yes, sir. We

  • 1:43:05

    have a very, very, very, very, very special guest in the building. This person has stood me up before.

  • 1:43:12

    This is somebody who hit me before like, yo, I'm in New York. Let me come to the pod. And then went ghost.

  • 1:43:19

    This is certainly one of my favorite artists. I think I've made that perfectly clear in this. You definitely

  • 1:43:26

    have. I've heard a lot about this particular person outside of the music, too. Now that we going to finally get to

  • 1:43:31

    clear up, ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for [Music]

  • 1:43:38

    Jazzy. Yes, sir.

  • 1:43:51

    Hold up. It might have been the best walk on ever. Yo, get my girl Mike right. Let's

  • 1:43:57

    get my girl set up right. Why the hook? Why the bridge? All right, we are really excited. We

  • 1:44:04

    really excited. [ __ ] That's a classic, bro. Damn. You ain't got to tell me. Damn, that's so

  • 1:44:11

    You ain't got to tell me what that one do right there. He said I stood well. Y'all supposed to

  • 1:44:18

    Yeah, let's get Let's get them together, right? What y'all mean? What y'all mean?

  • 1:44:25

    Oh my god. Jazzy is in this piece right here. Sheesh. Question. Do you impress yourself?

  • 1:44:32

    I think I'm tough on myself. M. Like, I'm not even going to hold you. M. See, you got to pay attention. Who's M? Who's

  • 1:44:37

    Melissa? You got I'm not even going to hold you. Can

  • 1:44:43

    I Can I tell y'all like Melissa? Like um Yeah. you are a big part of who I am as

  • 1:44:50

    far as knowing I like girls. So when I was like, "No, nah, I'mma tell you the

  • 1:44:56

    story, bro." Like, I kid you not. Like, oh, we out of here. I remember I remember the King Magazine. I was in

  • 1:45:02

    band class. It was like I had to been like fifth grade, sixth grade. And my boys, this is like when you couldn't

  • 1:45:08

    really be gay in Memphis. Like, you couldn't really be like that. Yeah. And um my boys was passing the your King

  • 1:45:14

    Joint in the CL in the band class. And they came to me and I said, "Look at your face. Close your mouth." Yo. I said

  • 1:45:20

    I said, "What the fuck?" in my head but around my [ __ ] I was like, "Oh, [ __ ] I want to see that shit." But the

  • 1:45:27

    whole time I'm like, "You want to say something?" I was like, "Yo, what? Yo,

  • 1:45:32

    what is this?" I went to Lime Wire and I started like looking at all your videos and I was like, "Yo, Melissa Ford. I'm

  • 1:45:38

    in." And I used to like Yeah. You were a big part of like me knowing I like women.

  • 1:45:44

    Clap it up for that. Clap it up for I mean, I don't give a [ __ ] I'm going to say it.

  • 1:45:51

    app. Then she went to open that drawer.

  • 1:45:56

    Yeah. Now you was doing I appreciate that. Thank you. I remember what you had on King.

  • 1:46:03

    Then you went about the drunk. I was still none of that going on.

  • 1:46:11

    None of that going on. It was just It was innocent. Hey,

  • 1:46:18

    cond listen. Look at me. Mel the cheesiest. Mel don't know how to act

  • 1:46:24

    when uh compliments come knock it off. No, you deserve it. You deserve it. You do for your flowers. Thank you. Well,

  • 1:46:31

    we're going to give you all your flowers today because we are huge fans up here. Thank you. Huge. I I already have one of

  • 1:46:38

    my questions answered. Josie, I heard a lot about you outside of music. Mhm.

  • 1:46:43

    when I wasn't too familiar and before you dropped what went to be went on to be one of my favorite EPs. They was

  • 1:46:50

    like, "Yo, Josie been around her pen. She be writing, but also

  • 1:46:57

    she got him. Sniper. She got him. She a sniper. I don't know what where this folklore came

  • 1:47:03

    from. This is for real." And y'all be messing it up for my wife, my future

  • 1:47:08

    wife, cuz like like she going to hear this and she think that and then I got to prove this wrong. Then I went to your

  • 1:47:14

    page and I did some peeking around and I was like, "Oh, she got them. She got

  • 1:47:20

    them. She got them. You got them. I do not have nothing. You got them. You can't claim them. No. I swear to God. I

  • 1:47:26

    I want I want You know what's so funny, bro? You don't got nothing until it's yours.

  • 1:47:33

    You had them out of here. You had to. No. Not Not you do that. Yo, who

  • 1:47:39

    you think you talk? Yo, the charisma, the personality is smelling good. I

  • 1:47:45

    said, "Yo, what's that?" She said, "I ain't even going." That's my line. Charie, she hit me with my own [ __ ] I ain't telling you what I'm wearing now.

  • 1:47:51

    You ain't She can sing a lot. She smells the Wall Street oil, [ __ ] That's the

  • 1:47:56

    one. The good [ __ ] Now, Johnny smells absolutely amazing.

  • 1:48:02

    That mean a lot. That mean a lot. So, you making the rounds? I'm assuming that you got some music coming. Yeah, I'm making Yeah, bro. I'm um I heard a uh a

  • 1:48:10

    Kiz flip. So what's so funny? He ain't even a flip twin. That's like shout out to Stereotypes, you know? If you know

  • 1:48:16

    Stereotypes, they did 24 carat magic for Super cold. So like they just know how

  • 1:48:22

    to like find the sonics but not but not the flip. Yeah. Like and that's what I love. I'm really a student at this. Like

  • 1:48:29

    I know how to like get that sound but not having to flip [ __ ] You know what I'm saying? But yeah, we really I got a new single that's about to drop called

  • 1:48:35

    Dogum. Um, I got I'm on a new label, BMG. Okay. Shout out to BMG for like

  • 1:48:42

    I got a second chance. Like a lot of people don't really get second chances and like I feel like um the Lord gave me

  • 1:48:48

    opportunity to have a second chance as a as an artist because uh you know I had a little moment where I had to kind of sit

  • 1:48:54

    down for a minute. So I'm here though. Well, what was going on? What caused that? What was going on in that that time in my mind or both? Well, well, in

  • 1:49:03

    life, you know, I was with Love Records, you know, I was with Love Records, so I I just had to um get out of that, you

  • 1:49:10

    know, situation cuz there was no more Love Records, right? When did you know you had to get out of there, boy? Like,

  • 1:49:17

    when I went home, my mama said I was going up the steps and she looked at me said, "You know, you got to get out there." I was like, "All right."

  • 1:49:23

    I was like, "All right, mama." Mama knows. That was that was like Thanksgiving like last year. cuz I ain't

  • 1:49:29

    going to hold you. When you hit me and like, "Yo, I'm ready to come up here and do an interview." In my head, I was saying, "If I was Josie, I don't know if

  • 1:49:36

    I'd be doing a run right this second. I might let it sit for a second." But you

  • 1:49:41

    said, "Fuck that. I'm outside." And I didn't do it. I didn't I didn't come see do the interview. Oh, before? Yeah. Yes.

  • 1:49:47

    No, you didn't. Like, you don't I had so many people in my ear. So, I had one one of my friends like, "Yeah, do it. Go,

  • 1:49:53

    go, go." And then I had another one of my friends was like, "What?" They always be like, "Yo, what would Beyonce do?

  • 1:49:59

    Shut the [ __ ] up." That's that's like, "No, they all like So that's how I like

  • 1:50:04

    live my life." It's like, I'm not saying like, "What would be" But for real, for real, like Josie, just just put your

  • 1:50:10

    head down, do what you need to do, and then when it's time for you to go up here, you know, like you going to go up here the right way, you know, because

  • 1:50:17

    like I know this world, man. America's like so dramafilled. I could have came up here and said some [ __ ] and yeah, it

  • 1:50:23

    would have got attention, but I'm really not trying to I'm really I'm really not I don't want to be in no drama. Like,

  • 1:50:30

    and it's not really even your drama to be in, you know? You don't It's not for you to defend anybody. It's not for you

  • 1:50:35

    to You came after everything. I know. Well, I assume you came after

  • 1:50:40

    everything, right? I came in a good a great time of of his like life like 2023. Yeah. 2023. Yeah. 2022. I came in

  • 1:50:50

    a good like a great time. Everything was just peace, positive R&B. Like it was

  • 1:50:56

    just beautiful and I really was I really am proud proud of myself on just actually getting him and getting us to

  • 1:51:03

    uh make completing the album. You know what I'm saying? So yeah, it was just a it was a a a great time for music

  • 1:51:09

    especially for me cuz I'm a I'm a student like you know I came under Timberland and Missy. I'm a [ __ ] that like I like instruction like I hate I

  • 1:51:16

    hate being the smartest [ __ ] in the room. I hate that [ __ ] I really don't like being the smartest person in the

  • 1:51:21

    room. Like I be want to learn, but like I've been I've been the smartest person in a lot of rooms recently. So seeing

  • 1:51:27

    him, I was like, "All right." So So some of the songs that y'all worked on is still on the project or was is this a

  • 1:51:34

    new batch on the album? What you mean? Did you take anything when you left from the [ __ ] that y'all worked on? Oh,

  • 1:51:41

    everything is new. Yeah, everything is new.

  • 1:51:46

    Everything. How much was left? How much did you have to like walk away from

  • 1:51:52

    of music? Yes. Yes. So, what's so funny? I'm I'm So, me being a writer, you know

  • 1:51:58

    how like Pac I take Pac cuz I noticed like Pac would do a 100 songs. I ain't

  • 1:52:04

    that type of person, bro. Like Songs for Women was Songs for Women. I didn't give I didn't do any more songs until it was

  • 1:52:10

    time for me to work on a new album. So, it was like songs for women. Then it was the love album and all that [ __ ]

  • 1:52:18

    happened. I went I just chilled. I was working on a few things like as still as a songwriter and then um when I got out

  • 1:52:25

    that was like when I had time to like focus on my artistry and like just lock in on me. So like yeah I'm not a person

  • 1:52:31

    that just does music just to do it. So you don't just write in your spare time neither? No really outside. I'm I'm a

  • 1:52:38

    person I got to live. You write jokes. Yes. But no you could be in the shower and some [ __ ] come to your mind. you

  • 1:52:44

    just get out and jot it down. None of that. Sometimes sometimes, but no, like u I'm a person like somebody send me a

  • 1:52:49

    beat. I'm like, "All right, I'm not going to listen to it until I get to the studio cuz I'm a person uh whatever in

  • 1:52:55

    my first mind, I'mma freestyle it. So don't send me the beat in the car. Like

  • 1:53:00

    I need to be in the studio ready, you know, in my vibe cuz I'm It's

  • 1:53:05

    so weird the way I like work." You know what I'm saying? So, like I be telling producers, they be like, "Yo, you know," I'm like, "Well, send it to me when I'm

  • 1:53:12

    in the studio, you know, when I'm ready, you know?" So, yeah, that's kind of how I do it. You You said

  • 1:53:19

    um your mom told you you had to get out of that situation and like was it hard

  • 1:53:24

    for you to get out like mentally or like you is notorious for holding people

  • 1:53:32

    hostage in their contracts. I never told nobody this, right? So tell it to us. Oh

  • 1:53:38

    [ __ ] Yeah, I'm going tell y'all cuz like now this feel like therapy is a safe space already. No, I'm

  • 1:53:45

    joking. But uh literally so everything happened in and so we left

  • 1:53:52

    London right after London November. That was after his gig show. Then the Cassie

  • 1:53:57

    [ __ ] came out. I didn't know anything. I was like, "Yo, this is horrible." I went

  • 1:54:04

    home for Thanksgiving and I I went back to Memphis and then my mama was like,

  • 1:54:09

    "Uh, she told me that." So I was like, "But I already knew, but I when your

  • 1:54:14

    mama tell you something, my mama don't ever get in my business." When you say the casting [ __ ] bro, the news or the

  • 1:54:19

    video? No, just the news. Just the news. So you don't like it's just the news. It's just like what she said. The suit.

  • 1:54:26

    Yeah. Yeah. So that was it. Yeah. That's all I had. My mama was like, "No." Cuz you know, like domestic abuse is big.

  • 1:54:32

    Y'all don't talk about My sister was killed by her husband. Oh, so my mama don't play. We don't really play with domestic abuse. But the thing about it

  • 1:54:39

    is her husband did not go to jail. He was actually still in our church. He was

  • 1:54:45

    still the deacon at our church. Oh wow. Wow. So you got to understand that's a different type of And my brother was locked up for 10 years. So my brother

  • 1:54:51

    the hate, he couldn't do nothing. It was like we then my parents is very churchy. So they like forgive and so which is

  • 1:54:57

    what we should do. We should have grace with everybody. That's it's not our battle. was really God's battle. So I

  • 1:55:02

    understand that that aspect of it. Um so like so you so that's the struggle. That's that's where the that's where

  • 1:55:08

    that my mama looked at me was like no. I was like [ __ ] So you're right. I know I got to but when your mama say it's you

  • 1:55:15

    really got to do. So uh before New Year's Eve I went to Miami to go to this

  • 1:55:21

    house. I flew there to see him and uh and he was like man you about to leave me in like when when it's tough and um

  • 1:55:29

    you're damn straight. So, so here here then my this I was like, "Bro, Puff," I

  • 1:55:35

    was like, "Um, if I was your artist and I did something immorally correct, you would be like, "Jazzy, I love you, but

  • 1:55:40

    you bad for business." And that [ __ ] looked at me and said, "You're right. I'mma let you out." And like, I just had

  • 1:55:47

    to just keep it real with him. And like he was, you know, letting me know it was a money grab. I didn't know what everything was until, you know, but I

  • 1:55:54

    just knew that like, um, bro, if I did anything crazy, even if it was if it was

  • 1:55:59

    fake or if it was real, you would be like, Josie, I love you, but I can't [ __ ] with you right now. And he knew that. And so, I think me me coming to

  • 1:56:06

    Miami and chilling with him. And after we did that, we watched the movie. Like, we went to his theater and watched the

  • 1:56:12

    movie and just I left. And then he was just like, "Yo, you know, this is my cross to bear." And he was just like at

  • 1:56:18

    peace with it. And uh yes, what did he put on

  • 1:56:24

    like the wrong with you, bro? Get the

  • 1:56:32

    [ __ ] when it rains. When it rains, you're poor. Catching it

  • 1:56:37

    all together foxing.

  • 1:56:43

    Oh my god. It was a TV show. Let me watch a movie. It was a show, but it was it was about a cash rep. I can't even.

  • 1:56:49

    It was a cancer patient. The Big C. What was it? The Big C. What? What is that about? It's about a woman. A woman?

  • 1:56:55

    Yeah. Uh, blonde woman cancer. I think that may be it. That was it. That may be

  • 1:57:00

    it. It was about a woman with cancer. She's on HBO. It's a show on HBO. Yeah. Yeah, that's what we watch. Did it watch

  • 1:57:06

    sitting in that moment when you talked to him, right? Did it What did it do for you emotionally? Cuz even when you tell the story, it seemed

  • 1:57:13

    like it was a not saying it was a tough decision. I don't want to put you in that position, but see you had to make

  • 1:57:19

    the decision, but how was it to talk to him and look him in the eyes and actually tell him this and for him to

  • 1:57:25

    actually say, "You know what? I got you. I'm going to let you go." After hearing the stuff about him, how he does with artists, man. And cuz like that could

  • 1:57:33

    with you, he just say, "I got you. I let you go." It could change, it could change your

  • 1:57:38

    perspective on how not saying you had a different look on him, but it could just be like, "Oh, damn." Like he's being human right now. Man, you got to

  • 1:57:45

    understand, bro. Before I signed to Love Records, everybody in their mama told me, "Don't sign him." But it was about

  • 1:57:51

    bad. He's bad. Only thing was he's bad business. Like, it was nothing else. No.

  • 1:57:56

    No. Like, you know, I you know, that was it. It was just the bad business part. So, but at the time, I had I had great

  • 1:58:04

    management, great lawyers. I don't have I've I've had so many shitty contracts that I knew that if I'm going to sign

  • 1:58:09

    with him, my contract going to be so cold. It's going to be right. And so, I was with Rock Nation Jay Brown at the time. Hey. So, so Jay Brown was not

  • 1:58:16

    playing that [ __ ] like he really looked him like looked after me with his contract. So, um I knew that like my

  • 1:58:24

    contract was good kind of. So, it was all like I knew that kind of when I when I got with Puff and when I looked in his

  • 1:58:31

    eyes, I kind of knew that he was really going to I don't know. It's just me and him had a different little energy. I

  • 1:58:37

    don't know. He really like he really like loved me in a He really did, bro.

  • 1:58:42

    Like I can't even like act like that [ __ ] like he [ __ ] with me and to the point where like you know I could talk I

  • 1:58:49

    could say some things to him then the next day he'd be like yeah you right. You know what I'm saying? You right. All right. You know so like I don't know. So

  • 1:58:55

    I just I just looked in his eyes. I just felt it. I was like I I really knew he was going to let me out my contract. I

  • 1:59:00

    didn't feel you know like most people probably would have let their lawyers go and do it. I was like yo I'm going to

  • 1:59:06

    just go to this [ __ ] cuz at the time I don't know what's real or what's fake. I'm just hearing and I'm like, "Yo, this is bad. I gotta get out. Let I pray for

  • 1:59:14

    you, but I'm gonna let you." You know what I'm saying? But so, yeah. But I never not felt like once felt like um he

  • 1:59:20

    wasn't going to let me out. I'd like to ask you about uh I'm on record saying

  • 1:59:26

    that his last album is Well, it was Grammy nominated before it wasn't. No, it's fine. It was Grammy nominated

  • 1:59:33

    before before it wasn't because the stories broke out. But I would like to ask you about this song in particular.

  • 1:59:41

    This song, this is called Homecoming. This is off the Love album. This is one of my favorite songs on that album, but

  • 1:59:47

    after the news, bro. I know, bro. This song sounded a lot more eerie than it

  • 1:59:54

    originally did. I'd like to ask you about the creative process for this uh

  • 2:00:00

    the part that he played in this song being written. Yeah.

  • 2:00:05

    And when the story broke, did you then look at some of the music y'all created

  • 2:00:10

    with through a different lens? Cuz this song sounds like this is craziness to Oh

  • 2:00:18

    my I absolutely love this song. But it does sound a little like a love letter that you shouldn't be writing to

  • 2:00:25

    somebody that you had those experiences with. Well, we are all human. We all

  • 2:00:30

    have experiences of losing your girl and not everybody loses their girl with

  • 2:00:35

    domestic abuse. Yeah, of course. You know what I'm saying? I've lo like that's that. So, that record was a

  • 2:00:41

    little bit about him, but a lot of bit about me. That was a lot about me and my

  • 2:00:46

    ex. She in New York, too. What's up? Yo, you hear the voice? What's up?

  • 2:00:55

    You what? But yeah, you know what I'm saying? But anyway, so yeah, that was about my ex. But he did tell me a he did

  • 2:01:02

    tell me a story. All he told me was uh my trainer took my

  • 2:01:09

    girl. You know what I'm saying? And I and like you I don't know what's going on. Like I didn't know any of like I

  • 2:01:16

    just know. Let me tell you. I promise y'all. Bro, he put CeCe. He said CeCe in

  • 2:01:22

    it. And I told him one in the studio. I was like, "Bro, I think you should take her name out the song." Mhm. And this

  • 2:01:29

    was just because bro you a hoe. My boy you a hoe. Like let her be happy. It was all about the women. Like I know that

  • 2:01:35

    you're not really like she's happy. She married so I'm at the I'm like you just

  • 2:01:40

    a dog. That's how I'm looking at it. Not like any other type of way. So I was like take her name out the song bro. She

  • 2:01:45

    happy uh and he was like I'm going to do it. He took it out the whole time. Then it was cuz we did it during the camp. I

  • 2:01:52

    was in another room. I did like seven songs that night. That was just one song that I did. And um so the next day it

  • 2:01:59

    come back bro and there's a lot of yes men around him. He just got so many yes dick eating ass [ __ ] around him. No

  • 2:02:06

    disrespect. And like um take and so and so when I came back somebody done got

  • 2:02:13

    him riled up. I'm like I'm like you put it back in. He was like [ __ ] that. This my truth. And I looked at I looked at

  • 2:02:19

    one of the engineers. I said one of y'all [ __ ] told that [ __ ] to keep that in there. Huh? And I and like I just I knew somebody done I knew

  • 2:02:26

    somebody got in his head like nah [ __ ] that like it only take one person to

  • 2:02:31

    hype him up. You know what I'm saying? Or it take one person to be like nah my [ __ ] Nah. And I normally be that [ __ ]

  • 2:02:36

    like nah nah. And like he did it, bro. And but I didn't know. I just thought it

  • 2:02:41

    was just bro you still out here vibing with joints. Like you good. She let her

  • 2:02:47

    be happy, you know? And so, so if I'm taking the writing in this to be a lot

  • 2:02:53

    of your story too, then you a hating ass [ __ ] on the writing

  • 2:02:59

    tip. Let me What do you mean by this? If it's not good to you, then I know a

  • 2:03:05

    place. So, you want her to leave the the new person she walk away. Come back 100%.

  • 2:03:11

    Because I'mma tell you why. I'm with my situation. I'm going to tell you why I [ __ ] up. Everybody in here been there.

  • 2:03:17

    Yeah. No, I'm going to tell you why I [ __ ] up. I want to ask about this other I want to ask I want to ask you about this other hating ass record she

  • 2:03:22

    explain. Can I explain that with no twins? Yeah, please. All right. And that's not a hating ass record. Girl,

  • 2:03:28

    y'all think y'all think I'm hating record, girl. Girl, what? Why don't you listen to your words?

  • 2:03:35

    Y'all must don't be good with y'all exes. That's mad manipulative. Y'all must not be good with y'all exes. I'm

  • 2:03:40

    good with manipulative. I'm good with like all of my exes except the one that I really want back. Is that usually

  • 2:03:47

    happen to me in New York? Homecoming. Yeah, because Okay, so cuz it's my fault. You know, I [ __ ] up cuz like I

  • 2:03:53

    I said, "Yo, let's do an open relationship." Oh, I did that. I opened that door. I know. I'm a dummy. I'm a

  • 2:03:58

    dummy. But why' you do that? Because I was I be feeling myself sometimes, too. Like, you know what? Yo, see who you see

  • 2:04:05

    who I was. I'm tired of these restraints. But then you see who she shows up with and you're like, "Oh, no.

  • 2:04:12

    It's never about who she shows up with. It's always somebody that looks better." That's I don't care about that. That's

  • 2:04:17

    not what that is. So then what happened? No. Um it's just that Okay. So I'm not a longist person.

  • 2:04:26

    So she she she moved to New York and she said she's going to be there for 3 months and she ended up being here for a

  • 2:04:31

    long time. So I was like, "All right, so let's I I don't know if I can do this longist relationship." So you go on

  • 2:04:37

    dates. I'm going to go on dates. But I was around a lot of toxic I think just a lot of [ __ ] just had hella girls

  • 2:04:42

    around me just going crazy. I was I was this is too much too much that greed.

  • 2:04:48

    Yo, it was too much. And I had to like really get back into my feminine energy and be like, you don't need all that.

  • 2:04:54

    You need one person. You know what I'm saying? But like I had to go through that little that I had to go through my little phases and my moments like the

  • 2:05:00

    masculine [ __ ] get Did you ever date [ __ ] No, I kissed a dude before.

  • 2:05:05

    Okay. Okay. This is high school though. Like this is the cherry. This is This is

  • 2:05:10

    after after Melissa Ford. After the After the King after the King magazine, but

  • 2:05:19

    AK after AK.

  • 2:05:24

    Well, wait. Why'd you kiss a dude then? A moment of curiosity. I'm from Memphis, man. We couldn't be gay in the 2000s.

  • 2:05:30

    Like that like that that my like what? I just So it was just performing your family. Matt Churchy. Yeah, man. That

  • 2:05:38

    [ __ ] man. What? How are your parents with you now? Like knowing that you're out? Uh my pop, he cool. My pop is like,

  • 2:05:46

    "Yeah, cuz you know, he's like, "Yo, you like me. I know you

  • 2:05:52

    like me." That how my daddy be like, "Yeah, you was just like your daddy." Like that how my pop be acting with me. But uh my mama's we got to don't It's

  • 2:05:58

    like a like military don't ask, don't tell. And I respect that. Like at the end of the day, I tell every girl that's with me like you may never meet my mama.

  • 2:06:05

    Are you cool with that? And you got to understand like it's not about their life anymore. It's like my my papa

  • 2:06:10

    always preached the pro the prodigy like the prodigal son. Like there's a world that your parents can't go into. You

  • 2:06:16

    know what I'm saying? There's a world that your parents can never go into. Like so I we let's build our own world,

  • 2:06:22

    our own family cuz you know like but if you trying to meet my mama, it is not going over for that. Over for that cuz

  • 2:06:28

    she ain't going to like you cuz mama still mama. We going we going to give her that respect. Yeah. I love her but

  • 2:06:33

    nah you she not she not letting you come over. Yeah. Tell me um tell me about the

  • 2:06:39

    new record. Yeah, that's not a toxic. No, no, I didn't say it was toxic. I just said tell me about it. Jazzy got

  • 2:06:45

    joints. I thought she was going to come here with the unreleased project boy. [ __ ] I got some [ __ ] I want to play some [ __ ] Yeah, that

  • 2:06:51

    was I don't know if I could. Skull. What? You can do whatever you want up here.

  • 2:06:57

    Hey, fun. Your musical inspirations are who? Oh my goodness. Cuz I don't know if

  • 2:07:03

    I'm wrong or not. I don't know if it's the the Puff affiliation. When I listened to the EP, I heard so much

  • 2:07:09

    what's the 411. Thank you. Like I was like, damn, Puff lucked out finding somebody else who can get married to

  • 2:07:16

    that hip-hop sound and then write and flip [ __ ] Like that's what I heard. But who are your musical inspirations? Uh

  • 2:07:23

    Chucky Thompson. Chucky Thompson. Puff. That's goddamn right. Yeah. Hands down.

  • 2:07:29

    Mary J. Blah. was my I did her last whole album. The one uh Good Morning

  • 2:07:34

    Gorgeous. Oh, I too. That was a great album. Thank you, bro. Um Mary call

  • 2:07:40

    Thomas. I love Cisco. Y'all [ __ ] be laughing when I say Cisco.

  • 2:07:47

    Why? [ __ ] be laughing when I say [ __ ] The 20 20 something's laugh. Maybe. Yeah. Maybe. Y'all he like when I

  • 2:07:56

    say we know. We know. Not even has nothing to do with the fact I

  • 2:08:03

    was, you know, leading his video and went on tour with him. He [ __ ]

  • 2:08:09

    [Music] know. That's crazy. The thong era. Yes.

  • 2:08:15

    Yeah. Thumbs on. That's crazy. Well, that's because he bugged out and dissed

  • 2:08:20

    R. Kelly on this run. Oh. Oh, I saw that one [ __ ] Yeah. Yeah. What do you think

  • 2:08:27

    about that? Cisco bugged out for Oh, I didn't I didn't know he did that. Oh, I got it right. I just saw it on Tik Tok. I just saw it on Tik Tok. Yeah. You want

  • 2:08:33

    to blame? It's going viral again. Sure. Go ahead. I never knew. I mean, he's not

  • 2:08:38

    really I never knew until the Tik Tok [ __ ] I swear. And I saw R. Kelly say something about him. Yeah. He clap back.

  • 2:08:44

    Cisco, you a bomb. He said it on his mention Cisco, but he's a bum. That makes sense. I can hear I can hear I can

  • 2:08:50

    hear that. And what you saying? It's cuz you I'm going to tell you like those guys just knew how to like um do ad

  • 2:08:55

    lips. Like Puff used to stress to me like [ __ ] after the song you need to like just go crazy cuz like a lot of

  • 2:09:01

    people don't do that like in their songs on the at the end and I think that's what's so R&B about it is like doing

  • 2:09:07

    something different at the end. Cisco and like Jodicy used to go crazy. Yep. They're so good at like doing like ad

  • 2:09:13

    libs man like and that's where I come from. like I come from that time and even married like oh like like all that

  • 2:09:20

    it's like [Music] like man it's so good and it's just it just feels good to your soul and it's so

  • 2:09:26

    funny cuz like I see younger kids and they be thinking I created the sound like no like [ __ ] hold on like yo

  • 2:09:32

    that's new I'm like it's really not but to them you know they don't know Cisco

  • 2:09:37

    they don't know to listen to incomplete you you have like a nostalgic sound and so does Tiana Taylor both of you have

  • 2:09:44

    that like that ' 90s arm R&B sound. Yeah. Now TT is she's 90s in everything she does, bro. I love that about her.

  • 2:09:51

    Yeah. Cold. Same. Cold, bro. 90s. I would love new music from you, Tiana

  • 2:09:56

    Taylor. Wink. Um, what? Well, I think both projects is

  • 2:10:03

    classic. She another one. She another one. Just that's just that's just my bag. It's not cuz I know her. Um, who

  • 2:10:09

    currently are you [ __ ] with? Who currently? Man, I think the UK is [ __ ] on

  • 2:10:14

    everybody. London London artist is [ __ ] on American artists right now. Uh Cleo

  • 2:10:20

    Soul, it's a lot of reasons for that. Cleo Soul, Sasha Keeble, Elme,

  • 2:10:27

    the list goes on and on. They all [ __ ] on us because um we have to because like they really London and UK

  • 2:10:35

    is they're they don't give a [ __ ] about the drama aspect of this [ __ ] They only care about the real they care about the

  • 2:10:42

    music. They care about the music. to be out here, you got to have a scandal,

  • 2:10:47

    some drama, some [ __ ] to match with your music. And it's so hard for artists to break through. But like the UK artists

  • 2:10:54

    can just be cold and just go stupid and then wake up, get they beans and sausage. They just so cold, cold

  • 2:11:01

    tomatoes, get that and they they're students. Like I've never seen like these [ __ ] is students like Elme knows

  • 2:11:08

    so Aquarius like he knew what the soul and he's like 21. I feel like everyone over here tries to fit in too much too.

  • 2:11:14

    Like over there I feel like they're just cool with like No, I like 70s soul and that's what I'm going do. Yeah. But I

  • 2:11:19

    mean it's some dope it's some dope American artists like Leon. Le is fire

  • 2:11:25

    just dropped the deluxe. Yeah. You like the artist? Hm. The artist. She hard.

  • 2:11:32

    She hard. Y'all I f her I will. I'm so like I'm so open like to do that. But

  • 2:11:38

    it's just so funny like um collaboration right now. I just It's not your

  • 2:11:44

    priority. You're trying to It's not man. Like I don't want to ride nobody wave right now. I don't want to ride nobody

  • 2:11:51

    wave. Like I did that. I rode somebody. I wrote as a writer and as an artist. I

  • 2:11:56

    rode the wave of Puff, right? A little bit. And you think that? A little bit.

  • 2:12:02

    Like he turned me up with the love record [ __ ] Like I don't I think you shined on that. I don't think you rode his way. Well, what I mean by roll the

  • 2:12:09

    wave is like he still ushered her in though. Yeah, he got the boost. You got the boost. Co. So, I get I like I get

  • 2:12:16

    what you're saying though. Like I want to stand on my own. She showed I belong here. She ain't ride his wave to me. You

  • 2:12:23

    know what? That's what I miss. I wrote that for Mary J. Blah. I'm going tell you that. Sound like it. Yeah. That one supposed to be me on her. I I was so mad

  • 2:12:30

    that I was like, "Bro, I don't want to do this." So, wait, what happened? She tried it and it wasn't the best. And so

  • 2:12:36

    he he so he he kept me on it and that was a demo. I didn't rec record that or

  • 2:12:41

    re-record that or nothing. That is incredible. And I was so mad. I was like, "Nah, [ __ ] I don't want this ain't even my sound, [ __ ] I'm mad."

  • 2:12:47

    Like, bro, I sound like, "No, I don't want to do this." But I was like, you know, [ __ ] it. Like Mary smoked her

  • 2:12:52

    feature on that album, though. Like she killed it. Yeah, she killed that. She killed that. But she would have if she would have just let me vocal produce her

  • 2:12:58

    on that, she would have killed that. But do you get to do that often when you're writing? What? Vocal produce? I do, but

  • 2:13:04

    uh for her I wouldn't have charged, but I'll be taxing on that. That's a lot. That's a lot of work. All right. How much? All right. There we

  • 2:13:11

    go. Our favorite thing to do here is pocket watch.

  • 2:13:17

    We want to pocket watch for a little bit. Oh, wow. Uh okay. So, that's crazy.

  • 2:13:22

    New artist calls. Yo, trying to get you to come through vocally arrange me. Uh

  • 2:13:28

    maybe write a joint feature on something. What does it look like? What's that number look like? Well, I'm

  • 2:13:34

    not I This is my message. This is my announcement. I'm I I have I can't even

  • 2:13:40

    get you. I am not doing that [ __ ] I can't even get up here. I've retired from writing songs. Oh, wow. I'm not

  • 2:13:45

    writing for other people. For other people. Yeah. Okay. Just for yourself. Yeah. Yeah. Like um I think that I'm

  • 2:13:51

    blessed. I'm I had the biggest song in the world, right? I'm blessed. Like I I may never get that again. That's like a

  • 2:13:58

    lightning in the bottle at Oldtown Road. What that [ __ ] did, right? I did. I worked with Beyonce. I was

  • 2:14:04

    blessed to do Scissor. I've been blessed to do Fergie Coldplay. I'm good. You was

  • 2:14:11

    on Billy. Get Get Yo, Lil N. We got to talk on

  • 2:14:16

    more. No. No. He wrote it though. I just co-rote. That was his brain. That was his intellectual properties. All I did

  • 2:14:21

    was just come in and do Billy Ray Cyrus [ __ ] And that's [ __ ] huge. Yeah. I did Billy [ __ ] Yeah. It was all black.

  • 2:14:28

    It was all black folks behind that song. You got you got pup deal. Yeah. Yeah.

  • 2:14:34

    Hey, look. A trying to sign me. Oh, no. I mean, I mean, I mean, I'm I'm just trying to pocket. When did you sign your

  • 2:14:40

    pub deal? Right out the old time. Yeah. What are you talking about? Cracked him. Got him. Yeah. Got him. I'm

  • 2:14:48

    b I'm super blessed. Like, I'm I bought a house in Willing Hills. I'm out the way. I'm chilling. I'm blessed. So, I

  • 2:14:54

    That's a two-bedroom [ __ ] Three bedroom, four bedrooms. He trying to play you. I turned one bedroom to a closet

  • 2:15:02

    though, [ __ ] Four bedroom, three and a half baths, [ __ ] Stop playing. Stop. I ain't doing that. That That's

  • 2:15:09

    two bedrooms. I had the ass. I'm trying to play you. Yo, so you

  • 2:15:17

    get it. Yeah. Go. Two bedroom mean you ain't trying to move nothing into J is

  • 2:15:25

    expensive. Yeah. I don't Oh, God. I don't really like say like I'm not saying Rock Rock Nation was trash,

  • 2:15:30

    right? Rock Nation was trash. So, I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not saying I'm not saying good things about Rock

  • 2:15:36

    Nation. Oh [ __ ] But I will say Jay Brown told me the realest [ __ ] He said, "Jozy, when you get your money, buy a

  • 2:15:43

    house." And I thank Jay Brown for telling me that cuz like that's one free game. He if if nobody ever did nothing

  • 2:15:49

    for me, I really thank Jay Brown for telling me, "Yo, go get a house." cuz like I I don't know what I would have do

  • 2:15:54

    with my money. Jay Brown told me way back in 04. Yeah, we gonna put your album out. Oh, damn.

  • 2:16:02

    Hey, keep working hard. I went to see Ho. Hey, what's up, man? Go talk to J Brown. Set up. All right, man. Jay

  • 2:16:08

    Brown, what's up? Yeah, we got you. Just keep working. Oh, man. Tough time. Tough times call for tough people. Anyway,

  • 2:16:14

    shout out to J Brown. Lion cloth.

  • 2:16:20

    Lion skin. Okay, so we in LA. We bought a crib. We moving around. So yeah, I'm not writing songs no more, TW. I don't

  • 2:16:27

    We not writing songs for none of you new artists no more. It ain't even new. No, shout out to Shout out to the new

  • 2:16:32

    artist. Like I may do a collab. I'm I'll do a collaboration with them. But like I

  • 2:16:37

    don't I'm not writing for no artist. I don't care how big your call. She wrote the most successful song of all time.

  • 2:16:44

    I'm not writing song. Only person that can get me out of retirement and this is Jamie Fox. I want to work on Jamie Fox's

  • 2:16:50

    album. just that's just something cuz he's one of the he's one of my influencers like that like that [ __ ] I

  • 2:16:56

    don't think y'all understand how cold Jamie Fox is as a R&B artist that [ __ ] that last album don't

  • 2:17:02

    play with us like that his second his second album every song shout out to the dream for like going crazy and static

  • 2:17:08

    major rest in peace like crazy stupid the dream is another one yeah the dream

  • 2:17:14

    oh yeah don't play with them yeah I ain't write no more songs man they don't they don't respect writers enough to do

  • 2:17:19

    all that [ __ ] M how so I I agree with you. I'm just curious about your your

  • 2:17:24

    experience. The industry I thought that's where the brand at. No, it is but they don't treat it like that, bro.

  • 2:17:30

    First and foremost, it's three ways. The label treat you like [ __ ] They don't want to give you points. They want to

  • 2:17:36

    get a producer everything like the like Iard. Like so. All right. So, take my lyrics off and put the goddamn producer

  • 2:17:42

    [ __ ] on the radio. And I heard it take a long time for y'all to get paid. Where a producer get paid? It's way sooner.

  • 2:17:47

    Well, not with me. I got my front end. Oh, pardon me. Like I I got my I was good. Pardon me. Kill. Stop playing with

  • 2:17:53

    it. Yeah. But it ain't about me. It's about the songwriters, bro. Like some writers some

  • 2:17:58

    some songw writers are not getting their front end. Then on top of that, the artists want want you to be a

  • 2:18:04

    ghostriter. Then on top of that, the artists are so insecure. They don't even want to thank

  • 2:18:09

    you. Like you know how like in the credits of the CD, they would be like, "Thank you so and so and so." Back in the day, these [ __ ] won't do that for

  • 2:18:16

    you now. They don't acknowledge that you they won't acknowledge that. A few of them will, but like some of these folks are so like narcissistic that they don't

  • 2:18:23

    even respect the writer. So, it's like and and like the thing is like I'm of service as a writer. I know that I'm of

  • 2:18:30

    service. I know that you supposed to use me, but like when it's the misuse of it and I don't feel like I don't feel like

  • 2:18:36

    you replenishing me, I'm out of here. The credited thing is enough alone. Like that [ __ ] is your whole calling card.

  • 2:18:41

    That's more important a lot of times. Yeah. Reset card. Yeah, exactly. Oh, they

  • 2:18:47

    wrote such and such and such, but if it's like I did, but nobody knows that. Yeah, that's weird. Yeah, it's whack. So, you want a [ __ ] just you just so

  • 2:18:53

    you just going to just spoon feed me? You just going to hear? Nah, like it's so bad for writers. I feel bad for

  • 2:18:59

    songwriters. That's the best that's the biggest part of a being in the industry

  • 2:19:04

    and it's like Spotify is treating them bad. The song is the product. That's kind of you're about to

  • 2:19:10

    be in as a artist though. Like I don't want nobody knowing that I'm not writing my own [ __ ] Even if I'm

  • 2:19:18

    not writing my own [ __ ] How though? Why though? Michael Jackson had run. You're not a rapper. Whitney Houston didn't

  • 2:19:24

    write nuts. Rap is different. The skill is in the writing as a rapper. But as a

  • 2:19:30

    singer, the skill is in your vocal ability. Correct. I'm thinking and as and as a and when I worked with rappers,

  • 2:19:36

    I never touched these [ __ ] verses. When I did Lotto, I don't I never touched the Lotto verses. Lotto writes

  • 2:19:42

    all her raps. Like when I did 21 Savage, he wrote all his raps. It's just a hook.

  • 2:19:49

    Like it's a hook. Like that's okay. But the hook be the song a lot of times on on a rap record, especially like the

  • 2:19:55

    songwriter. No, but a lot of times the songwriter, producer might send the record and they just filling in the blanks. And no disrespect cuz they still

  • 2:20:01

    got to body it. But the song is the song already. I think I think every I think

  • 2:20:06

    to even to help rap right now, labels need to give rappers songwriters. I

  • 2:20:13

    agree 100%. 100%. Just go back to making [ __ ] big and pop. Yeah. Yeah. Or just well written. Yeah. Just as simple as it

  • 2:20:20

    don't even have to be poppy. It could be some dirty underground [ __ ] whatever. Whatever. But making a song still. 100%, bro. Yeah. But like it's just like it's

  • 2:20:28

    Yeah. There's just no formation in it. Yeah. All that freestyle and [ __ ] is cute, but like it's bad. There's no

  • 2:20:33

    longevity in that [ __ ] It's bad right now. It's horrible. But that's because of the songwriter. Facts. Like nobody

  • 2:20:38

    wants to like actually uh really nurture relationships with writers. So you just Why do you think

  • 2:20:45

    that is? Interesting. Yeah. I would have thought because it's the money. It's the bottom line. It's money. It's a money

  • 2:20:51

    play, bro. Like if I'm an artist running around and I need a hit or I need something that that resemble a hit and I

  • 2:20:57

    know Jazzy and a few others make that [ __ ] That's a Why why wouldn't I? You come from a different time, legend. You

  • 2:21:04

    a different type of [ __ ] You come from a different time where y'all [ __ ] had hits. Like for real was giving y'all

  • 2:21:09

    [ __ ] 100%. For real would do the beat and give y'all a hook. Like goddamn you going to do that song like and the song

  • 2:21:16

    going to be a hit and give you a melody and give you the idea for the video. Yeah. And like you gonna be like, "Yeah,

  • 2:21:21

    that's hard." But like can't say no to that. Can't even say nothing. But like but like these artists

  • 2:21:28

    today, bro, is so weird, bro. They like they get a t and I love no disrespect to

  • 2:21:33

    these artists today but like a lot of these artists today bro are like sipping on their own Kool-Aid and it's like got

  • 2:21:40

    them too much dip on their chip for sure. You know what I'm saying? And if but like and they kill it but it's like

  • 2:21:45

    can you do it cons consistently and are you cool with like actually letting your homies flourish? Like I know [ __ ] got

  • 2:21:51

    ghost riders but they don't let them flourish. Like if that [ __ ] show like let him say he did this. Why do you

  • 2:21:56

    think that is? You think they just want to keep him under them? Because if you get an opportunity to spread your wings, I could [ __ ] around and leave you. I

  • 2:22:02

    have. Maybe that is I I really been I think I slept on it and tried to come up with an idea like an answer for that cuz

  • 2:22:08

    I really don't know, bro. Like I don't know. But like a lot of it is just a de

  • 2:22:14

    devaluation of music really. Like if there's no value associated with this music, no one's going to spend the time

  • 2:22:19

    to do it right. But let me tell you, bro, but it's it's a bad mentality because if you do it right, it will be

  • 2:22:25

    more in black music and it'll last forever. It's only in black music. Big spam. I don't know about No, twin. It's

  • 2:22:30

    only in black music twin. I promise you. Like pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop music they

  • 2:22:36

    collaborate they [ __ ] collaborate if you look like when you see a pop artist

  • 2:22:42

    they're thanking a lot of people Miley Cyrus is thinking she's thanking my boy

  • 2:22:47

    she's thanking like her writers she's bringing them on stage Bruno Mars what

  • 2:22:53

    Bruno Mars did brought dem up and James Fontoy like that's like it took but he's

  • 2:22:59

    not you get what I'm saying like we we are the only people People have taught us to like we have to be super [ __ ]

  • 2:23:05

    I'm a super [ __ ] Like ah I did this by myself. Whoa. Like no. Like why do they

  • 2:23:12

    make us like they really it's really they have programmed us to think that we have to collaborate by ourselves.

  • 2:23:17

    Thankfully like like I said UK artists like like certain UK artists they're

  • 2:23:22

    collaborating. They they want to come and work with other writers and stuff. You know I just I'm just over it. So I'm

  • 2:23:28

    like damn that's so interesting. You know what I'm saying? Back back back in my day. Back in my day. Mhm.

  • 2:23:36

    If you weren't treating the PD at the radio station a certain way, if you

  • 2:23:41

    weren't treating the people in your label that work your records and your video, if you weren't just treating

  • 2:23:46

    everybody a certain way, it could be over for you. Like, you better learn the value of collaboration. So that's

  • 2:23:52

    interesting to hear today that everybody just wants to do it themselves. Like everything that's technology kind of got

  • 2:23:59

    them doing a lot of this [ __ ] themselves. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Not all of them but for the most. When it's

  • 2:24:04

    time to scale or when it's time to get your [ __ ] heard from more people that's in your hood on your block. It's time to

  • 2:24:11

    bring in It's time to bring in. I agree, bro. I I'll and pay them. I agree.

  • 2:24:17

    That's the other thing. [ __ ] don't be wanting to pay pay the lawyer, pay the business accountant, pay your manager,

  • 2:24:23

    pay your road manager, pay your pay the people that need to get paid. It's short it's shortsided cuz good songs last

  • 2:24:29

    forever. Yeah. All the other [ __ ] you might get a hot Tik Tok hit or viral hit or a little placement in a commercial or

  • 2:24:34

    something like that and that that's cool. That's some money right now. But like the the people that have made

  • 2:24:40

    careers, long careers wrote good songs and took care of people. Can I ask you a question? So ask me anything. around

  • 2:24:45

    around your time, who was who was the writer that y'all do that would like who would y'all go to for like songs or

  • 2:24:53

    hooks? Well, you got to remember in my day as a rapper,

  • 2:25:00

    I had to come up with the hook, the verses. There was no, it wasn't writing

  • 2:25:05

    camps, it wasn't uh and if you were a different tier artist, then you go to

  • 2:25:10

    your forel, you go to the producers that's giving you a hook. Okay? So it always it always just started with the

  • 2:25:16

    producer of course. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's always a start with the producer with with a beat. But in terms

  • 2:25:22

    of going to get joints that was reserved for a different level artist than I was.

  • 2:25:27

    Yeah. Like when Neo started having hits floating around with hooks on them. They wasn't coming to Scain for me.

  • 2:25:40

    Scr Ludacris. I'm in the building with the thick of the thick in here. So yeah. No, if you didn't come up with the

  • 2:25:47

    everything on your own, then you was just you just ain't got one. You ain't got one cuz you don't have the budget to

  • 2:25:53

    go pay the people that Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, true. Damn. Also Neo. Yeah, the Neos, the Kanye's. It was Neo Forel.

  • 2:26:01

    Like my my era is Fab first album. So a lot of that is Clue uh Timberland

  • 2:26:09

    [ __ ] Forel. I was so jealous of Fab all that [ __ ] he had on his album. It was me on my album. It was me and my man

  • 2:26:16

    from Bayon that I knew since I was 15. I didn't have the budget for nothing. And

  • 2:26:21

    we couldn't go say, "Hey, I need to reforcast," which is I need I need more money. Hell no. That's crazy. Yeah. Look

  • 2:26:28

    at you now. Up. Oh my up. Super, bro. Hey, I tell you. Super

  • 2:26:35

    super [ __ ] Escalator. Follow your dreams. Escalator still going. Yo, never

  • 2:26:43

    never said the alternate route is a long camera. The alternate route is a long one, but you will eventually get to the

  • 2:26:49

    same destination. You'll never quit your dream.

  • 2:26:54

    Damn. Hey, let's clap to that. Hold on, bro. [ __ ] that. I'm sorry. That's

  • 2:27:01

    Hey, bro. Like, I just It was so funny, bro. like Jau uh daughter got married

  • 2:27:06

    and I saw comments like damn Juul look good like he he he like he the one up

  • 2:27:12

    after all that [ __ ] going on like he the one I was like damn I was like you right like Ja he got a good life you saw your

  • 2:27:19

    daughter grow up a good lifestyle too these [ __ ] don't these these rappers that [ __ ] look like he in the gym six

  • 2:27:24

    hours a day I'm saying these rappers that's hot today like nobody's really thinking about their lifestyle tomorrow

  • 2:27:31

    right like I'm I'm blessed to be okay at 45 but when I 23, 24, 25. We wasn't thinking nothing

  • 2:27:37

    about that [ __ ] Ju has had a wife his whole life. That's true. Has been in the

  • 2:27:42

    house with his kids his whole life. Their whole life. Has provided big ass

  • 2:27:47

    mansion, ran around the world, made all the money, work out every day, don't do drugs, I don't drink. Like, but that's

  • 2:27:55

    not that's not what we look at, right? We don't look at that. Those examples are around. Go to Big Daddy Kane

  • 2:28:01

    Instagram page. He looks amazing. dressed to the tease. Looks very healthy. Keep that bout. If you see him

  • 2:28:06

    at a show, his breathing is clear. Hey, I be having the doctors come to my house now. Birthday to do a little [ __ ]

  • 2:28:12

    Breathe for me. Just breathe. Okay, you sound good. You're great. Big Daddy Kane

  • 2:28:17

    breathe like uninterrupted. Yeah, we just keep looking at [ __ ] perk heads and [ __ ] or [ __ ] on pink

  • 2:28:25

    cocaine talking about, "Oh, he's a sniper. He's a crackhead." Oh [ __ ] He's

  • 2:28:32

    a sniper. That's a good looking crackhead right there. All right, forget

  • 2:28:38

    them take the crack. Hey, that's that new crack. He was like, anyway, I'm joking, too.

  • 2:28:43

    Shout. Um, what else do we need to ask Josh? Tell us about uh stage plays to

  • 2:28:48

    get her back. I love you for that. That's why she Melissa goddamn for she

  • 2:28:53

    be googling. No. So, hold on a second. So, here here's the girl. Listen. I have

  • 2:29:00

    I've had my own off Broadway experience. I just saw Tank on Broadway and he

  • 2:29:06

    killed it. So, I have like I have such an appreciation for artists who step outside the box and do

  • 2:29:13

    something so different like that just I I just had to tip my hat to your creativity. So, tell us about that. All

  • 2:29:20

    right. Let me tell you where it came from. Okay. So, I'm chilling with my boy Ricardo Scove and Madonna. Right. We in

  • 2:29:26

    at dinner fashion week last year. Wait, Madonna. Madonna the greatest the great Madonna. I know you just were I thought

  • 2:29:34

    it was something else Madonna me Kurt Ray Ray and Prince

  • 2:29:39

    what Madonna and just threw Madonna in there. So I had to salmon Kurt Ray Ray

  • 2:29:45

    and Prince. What? No, but um bro, so she's uh she's an amazing woman and she

  • 2:29:51

    just don't sugarcoat nothing. So I'm like I'm gassing my album up to She just looking at me. She like, "I've been in

  • 2:29:58

    this game for 30 years." She was like, "30 decades." I was long.

  • 2:30:04

    Four decades. Four decades, right? And she was like, "I've seen every R&B

  • 2:30:09

    artist." She's like, "What are you going to do different from everybody I've seen?" I'm like, "The fuck." I'm like, I

  • 2:30:15

    was mad at this question. I'm like, damn, bro. She is right. Like, what? Oh, Madonna. Yeah. She got to shut the [ __ ]

  • 2:30:21

    up sometimes. I ain't going I ain't going Madonna. Hey, respect. Ain't no

  • 2:30:26

    joke. I needed that. Not in that. That other interview running around where she walked on the homeboy like, "Oh, Montel

  • 2:30:31

    Jordan." Oh, I saw that. Like, hey, don't I own you? Like, all right, girl. Girl, relax. I saw this. But it's a good

  • 2:30:38

    question. No, I saw that. You still got to shut the [ __ ] up. But still. Yeah. No, but for me, that conversation was a

  • 2:30:45

    wakeup call cuz like nobody going to really give it to cuz like nobody really give you the real spill. So, the whole

  • 2:30:52

    time I'm like, damn, what's going to separate me from a lot of artists? Because at the end of the day, we we're a business. We're not just like that's

  • 2:30:59

    what's going to separate me is I'm a business. Like, and I looked at like the Queen Latifah. I'm like, she's a business. So, the stage f came about and

  • 2:31:06

    I was like, I got this album called Soundtracks to Get Her Back. If it's a soundtrack, then I need something either

  • 2:31:13

    a movie and I was like, man, look forward to be a soundtrack, too. Yeah. But I'm like, yo, Michael Jackson did

  • 2:31:18

    the best movie in the world and then Kanye did Dark Twisted Fantasy. Who the [ __ ] gonna can't nobody beat them? So

  • 2:31:23

    it's like all right I got to do a stage play and I just I'm from the south so like medas and all the Tyler Perry stage

  • 2:31:31

    plays and I was like let me do a R&B stage play. So I linked up with this girl Bianca who is uh Lena Wave. Shout

  • 2:31:37

    out to Lena Wave Chicago. She does the Sha Queen and Snow her writer on the Sha. She wrote the script for me and I

  • 2:31:43

    gave her the idea. I told her the whole story of and it's it's like my album. It was like losing my girl and getting her

  • 2:31:49

    back. But it's got like a [ __ ] cliffhanger. And then um I posted it. I

  • 2:31:55

    literally it was gorilla marketing. I did all I did was post on Instagram and like a little Tik Toks, but like went

  • 2:32:00

    out pass flyers around. That [ __ ] sold out in LA at El Porto Theater and girl

  • 2:32:06

    it was like the prettiest girls. I didn't give nobody free tickets. Everybody had to buy I had got I gave like 10 like the label like BMG like

  • 2:32:14

    Spotify but like it was women showing up by themselves, [ __ ] showing up suited

  • 2:32:19

    up like I had [ __ ] like y'all ain't never been to a pay before. I'm like wow. So that's stage pay to get back.

  • 2:32:27

    First show sold out. So I want to take I'm going to take it on tour. I was about to ask I'm about to chill circuit boy. I'm going sol.

  • 2:32:35

    What shows he do? Oh yeah. Yeah. First show is Memphis. Well, I pray it's Memphis. Right now, we're still trying

  • 2:32:40

    to figure out the um like where we going to go, but for show New York, me and Mel would love to attend. Y'all are there.

  • 2:32:47

    What? What? I would love that cuz the play is fire, bro. I have amazing amazing cast and I'm I'm singing in it.

  • 2:32:55

    It's And that [ __ ] complicated. Like actually going from acting to breaking into song. I didn't know how complicated

  • 2:33:01

    that [ __ ] was. So, I respect like Broadway to the That [ __ ] ain't easy, bro. talking then you got to Nah that's

  • 2:33:07

    crazy. No it's toughish and BMF for real. What she say? What she

  • 2:33:14

    say? She smoke that [ __ ] What she says?

  • 2:33:19

    No. Don't do that. Shout out to my dog Karisha. I love you girl. You trick? Yeah. Huh? Do I trick? I don't know what

  • 2:33:26

    that is. I'm from Memphis. I don't do that. Talk to him. Talk to him. The only

  • 2:33:31

    reason why I can't do that is um I like first and foremost how you how you get

  • 2:33:37

    them is how you got to keep them. So so if I start like that I got to stay like that. I'm scared she going to break me.

  • 2:33:44

    Like I can start like that for a few days. But stay like that. Hell no. She going to catch me. So it's like it's

  • 2:33:50

    certain things I know that I can do constantly, babe. I can like take you out to eat. I can I buy you cute little gifts like when you're my girl. You know

  • 2:33:58

    what I'm saying? But like tricking on that's songwriter tricking actually. That's tricking for songwriters. Let me

  • 2:34:03

    write a little tune. I write a song for her, but they I've done it. I I write a song for every girl that I talk to. Oh,

  • 2:34:08

    it's like future with the AP [ __ ] Yeah. No, like every girl in my life got every girl in my life got a song because um

  • 2:34:14

    it's it's like she's making me either better or worseer. You got to write a you got to write a male song. Yo, I

  • 2:34:19

    would love to. You have a song for me? Nah, cuz Melissa ain't in my life like that. What? Come

  • 2:34:25

    on. Your life. Why you throwing me out there like that? You make like Don't scare her like that, bro. I didn't mean

  • 2:34:31

    to. Don't scare me like that. You make wing. Relax. You know what? Can you make winges? What's that? Chicken. Chicken

  • 2:34:38

    wings. Flats. Flats. You don't need that.

  • 2:34:44

    Can you make wings? Hey, do you can you make chicken breast? Well, I got a girl. I drink on my baby. But did you used to

  • 2:34:50

    trick like when you But on your girl Oh, yeah. On my girl, I'm going to trick. I was broke before. On my girl, I'm a

  • 2:34:55

    trick. Like, yeah. Yeah, I was broke before. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Is it tricking if it's your girl? Complete. I just

  • 2:35:00

    triggered my baby. Is it Is it tricking your if it's your girl? That's That's the only time it's not tricking my baby.

  • 2:35:05

    Make my life complete. Yeah. Now, [ __ ] is buying girls. Crazy [ __ ] bro. I had a I'm not even going to tell you. I'm

  • 2:35:11

    talking too much. I wouldn't trick, but pay a light bill of rent. Like pay a little three.

  • 2:35:17

    Well, depend. If you live in Union City, if you live in like West New York, I pay a light bill.

  • 2:35:24

    1300 send it over. Hey man, can I can I ask you a question? What's the What's

  • 2:35:30

    the craziest gift that a [ __ ] ever gave you? What's the best gift you feel like and before you even before he even like

  • 2:35:37

    even got to the homecoming with you? Like what was that? What was that gift?

  • 2:35:42

    Um the homecoming. It was it was a breeze over that the

  • 2:35:49

    homecoming. It was crazy. It would be a combination of um thoughtfulness and

  • 2:35:55

    expense. So, what was it? I'm I'm I'm about to tell you not what it would be. It was a It was a diamond bracelet that

  • 2:36:02

    he had custom made to look like a diamond ring. Yeah. And it was beautiful. That [ __ ]

  • 2:36:09

    said I ain't ready to marry it, but I'm going to give you that. That was That was exactly what he said. How much you

  • 2:36:14

    got when you pawned it? I did not. I still have it. Why you playing? Yo, stop. I I that is that that actually I

  • 2:36:19

    that I'm not a very sentimental person but I have I really I love that gift. I

  • 2:36:24

    and I still have it. I would never p Why you don't wear Why you be wearing all that saving Mary? You wear all this [ __ ]

  • 2:36:31

    from from the crystal shop. Yeah, she was from Crystal. Why you wear Pandora [ __ ] If you got if you got the real

  • 2:36:38

    crystal shop is crazy. I wear I wear it when on special occasions. We

  • 2:36:46

    ain't special, [ __ ] I That's why I don't wear it up here. Exactly.

  • 2:36:52

    And when you wear it, you send him a picture be like, "No, no, no." He But he knows that I still have it. It came up

  • 2:36:58

    in conversation not too long ago. It's hard. Yes. Yes. I'm I'm cool with with some of my exes. Me, too. Yo, that line

  • 2:37:07

    that line that people is overused. Get off. That's not I'm still cool. All right. All right. I know what that mean.

  • 2:37:13

    I know what that means. I've been outside long. I'm still cool. My ex saying turn with open garage. Help me.

  • 2:37:19

    Help me to understand. He said that's the [ __ ] Ishb saying. J said the same thing. So tell me. I know. Y'all three

  • 2:37:25

    Jezebels. Y'all three [ __ ] [ __ ] Hey yo,

  • 2:37:32

    leave the garage open. That's all that mean. Leave the garage. What that means is I can still [ __ ] my old work whenever I feel like serious. I would never spend

  • 2:37:40

    a block except on this one girl if I could. She bring back she was watching right

  • 2:37:47

    now. What would you say to that? Yo, you got to keep your G and you put it out there

  • 2:37:57

    already [ __ ] There you go. You're right. I'm just trying to find out where she live right now. I can pull over some flowers. A little tricky. That's a

  • 2:38:04

    little tricky. It's not at all. That's charge. That's ruining. That's romantic. Or or it's or it's

  • 2:38:10

    stalking. That's a little No, stalking is if I do it more than more than once. Now, if I go back, it's a judgment. One

  • 2:38:17

    time that one time is cute. Second time is all right. Jazzy, you trippy. You

  • 2:38:23

    never tried to turn nobody out, did you?

  • 2:38:29

    All of my friends, my [ __ ] get Cuz the by girls or the gay girls with braids get a bad

  • 2:38:35

    reputation. Like they'll meet a straight girl and try to turn her out. Try. I don't be the opposite.

  • 2:38:43

    You're not doing that. I never ain't no reputation, [ __ ] That [ __ ] is But she not doing that. Um Okay. So 2025, I

  • 2:38:50

    vowed that I would never talk to a straight or bisexual girl ever again. You just got to be gay. Yeah, she got to

  • 2:38:57

    I have to know that she she knows what she wants and she Oh, you lost a [ __ ] to a real [ __ ]

  • 2:39:02

    Let me tell you what's going on. We got a No, no. Let me tell you. Let me tell you. Let me keep it real right off her

  • 2:39:08

    feet. Let me like first of like I'm not that type of person like, "Oh, I lost her to a nigga." Like that's not even

  • 2:39:15

    that. It's just that I'm at this point in my life. I really want a relationship. Like I want a companion.

  • 2:39:20

    Like I really want somebody for me. So Jazzy, cut it out.

  • 2:39:27

    She's going to hear it. She's going to hear it. Took a L before. No. Oh, no. Like, no. You thought that by getting

  • 2:39:33

    the braids, you wasn't [ __ ] You subjected to take a L, too, [ __ ] That smoke that smelling like Wall Street

  • 2:39:38

    don't mean [ __ ] You smell like [ __ ] I took a I took a L. I'm not saying But I'm saying like I'm done with I'm done

  • 2:39:44

    with like don't play with me. You know what I'm saying? Got it. Got it. I'm not I'm not an experimental. You're not

  • 2:39:50

    going to experiment with your sexuality with me. You know what I'm saying? Oh, somebody came over and [ __ ] you that

  • 2:39:56

    was curious and then boogied. Somebody just wanted to take a taste of

  • 2:40:01

    that snack. It's one of my favorite

  • 2:40:09

    [Music] tasty was liking the girl that she boogie like I'm into me. Yeah, she ran

  • 2:40:16

    right. Any girl that I'm that I go like that, I'm going that I'm intimate with, I like her. I'm not a [ __ ] that just be

  • 2:40:22

    out here just doing anything. So, I have to like her, you know. She just like rake. She just n I mean she just don't she

  • 2:40:29

    doesn't want to fully go there. Got you. You know what I'm saying? It's not a person. Like how old are you? I'm 33.

  • 2:40:36

    You know what I'm saying? Like it's not like a a person, but it's still like and I'm at that age where I'm ready to settle down. You get it? Like I hear

  • 2:40:41

    you. I'm at that age where like I don't want to be out here. I hear you. Oh my god. You don't believe me. I believe

  • 2:40:48

    you. This just the 30 something year olds. They not maybe on your page. Yeah, they are. Okay. It's just It's got to be

  • 2:40:54

    the right person though. God. And I'm not going to [ __ ] Y'all got me [ __ ] up.

  • 2:41:05

    I feel bad for y'all straight women. Damn. Here. So, when can we expect the

  • 2:41:11

    music? I got some music. So, I want to play something to I want to get to the music. I want to play song to him for

  • 2:41:17

    real. Can I please? Off the record. There's a lot of people record a lot of people listening. She said they gonna

  • 2:41:24

    put it right on Lime wire too. Maybe I shouldn't. I'mma play one. I'mma

  • 2:41:30

    play one. I got I got What's that? You got the old iPhone. Oh [ __ ] Okay.

  • 2:41:35

    Parks. We got Y'all too bougie for me over here in this goddamn show button. You got 17 cameras. Oh, she got the 9S.

  • 2:41:42

    All right, let's find some [ __ ] for a whole iPhone right quick. Hey, get All right, we got

  • 2:41:49

    something. We got heat. We got some heat. What's up? Keep dropping off new [ __ ] New [ __ ] Think the whole Harlem

  • 2:41:56

    world on some clue [ __ ] Uh oh. I need this in my phone. Whatever it is on a

  • 2:42:01

    Friday night before I head to the strip club to see my favorite bartender.

  • 2:42:06

    I got to go to the strip club with you. So I heard I heard you that one. Any Don't My girl listening, my girl

  • 2:42:12

    listening. I heard you the number one trick. No, I'm talking. I'm talking. I'm

  • 2:42:18

    talking to Drake by houses and [ __ ] I just be chilling. I throw a couple grand. Oo.

  • 2:42:24

    [Music] Yeah. You might you might have a nice little

  • 2:42:29

    verse on that. I would have definitely put a verse on there. You might have a voice on that with a nice light little

  • 2:42:35

    42 in the front. Hey. Hey. Can I tell y'all? No. My favorite verse. 42 club,

  • 2:42:42

    bro. Club. When you Marcus Houston. Oh, clubbing. Yes. Nah. I can spot you out the corner of your eye. Set you on a

  • 2:42:49

    ride. looking at popping

  • 2:42:55

    like you I smoke that. That's another one of my hits that they trying to throw

  • 2:43:01

    under the rug cuz wrote it like Yeah. Now that's crazy. I'm keeping that in

  • 2:43:06

    the That was when he was Piper, too. How you going to call They lucky I ain't

  • 2:43:11

    doing shows no more, [ __ ] I open

  • 2:43:16

    up [ __ ] I go on tour right now. I do Marcus Houston [ __ ] I don't know why B don't call me for the millennial tour

  • 2:43:22

    anyway. No, you should. This this another song right here. Uh me and Chris Brown. Shout out to my brother my heart.

  • 2:43:28

    My brother, my heart. That means some fires in the talk. Yeah. Even even Superman has a weakness,

  • 2:43:34

    man. Listen to this now. Especially the new Superman with that little that little colorable outfit he got on. He

  • 2:43:40

    don't look like Snider Superman. Little different. This my new single though. I'm about to drop it real soon. Please

  • 2:43:45

    play it for us. It's called Dogum. I really feel like this is a a hit out of this world. It's We going to help it to

  • 2:43:52

    get there, too. Now, play this. I'm proud of this right here. All right, here we go. With Mel in the video,

  • 2:43:59

    go in the video. Yo, M. Don't play with me. A Toronto legend. What? What? This

  • 2:44:04

    is a video you could do finally. All he says, I'm going have to go dog, bro. Yeah, not that drink [ __ ] you do the [ __ ] you want. Damn [ __ ]

  • 2:44:12

    she ain't the one to play with you. her DMs. They be sliding like bass hitters. Whatever.

  • 2:44:18

    Hey. Oh man. Where Kiss when I need her? No. That's why I get when I need her.

  • 2:44:24

    Africa. On a farm. You got to pay her. You got to pay. I I just got to find

  • 2:44:29

    her. I literally know what I'm saying. That's too complicated, bro. What do I What do I have to do to gain the

  • 2:44:36

    relationship equity to have these songs sent to my text? At least that Chris

  • 2:44:42

    join. I won't play for no. I promise. No. You know what? I'm going I won't I won't I won't let nobody hear. I won't

  • 2:44:48

    let nobody let nobody hear. I promise I won't. I promise you I'm not that type of person to be like, you know, n I'm

  • 2:44:54

    I'm sensitive like like I'm I'll sing them to you. I get the Chris name before

  • 2:45:00

    I Hey, I'm going out with him, bro. I got

  • 2:45:06

    the I got my friends. My home girl trying to go out, too. So, what we doing? Oh, you're more than welcome. Please. Yo, Lauren, call them up.

  • 2:45:11

    Lauren, please look at Lauren. I got 25. I got 25 spear. What's up?

  • 2:45:19

    I got 2500. I'm running.

  • 2:45:25

    Now Johnny come out. I got I throw five grand. Johnny come out. N that would be

  • 2:45:31

    great. All of those songs sound absolutely violent. I got a question. Out of all them joints that that I just played, y'all, what was the one that

  • 2:45:37

    really stuck with y'all though? Them. All of them? Yeah. All of them. But uh that that last one they was all that

  • 2:45:42

    that dog one that dog one is crazy. I can just see where they going to go crazy with that. I can see the Tik Tok. I can see the chicks subbing they [ __ ]

  • 2:45:49

    with the lyrics. That's going they all resonate. I like

  • 2:45:54

    all of them. The first one. Yeah. I like the I like the Chris I like the Chris Brown [ __ ] I need that Chris Brown for

  • 2:46:00

    when I'm [ __ ] and I grab the uh Apple TV remote. Hit that Joseph's playlist. Joseph's mix. What it say up there to

  • 2:46:07

    say your name with whatever your recent jams be. I need that to come on when I'm in that bag. Are you [ __ ] me?

  • 2:46:13

    Sheesh. I know Mel need that to come on. Huh? I love that one. But when she in South Jersey, stop

  • 2:46:19

    playing with me. Huh? William, when she take a long drive in William or Daisy. Hey,

  • 2:46:29

    Big. You know, all of those all of those sounded great though. Every single one. When When can the audience hear some of

  • 2:46:36

    this music? Uh, I'm actually we on the verge of like um marketing getting ready

  • 2:46:41

    to drop dogum like in June. We about to go crazy with dog. We here. Oh yeah. We

  • 2:46:47

    here. Yeah, bro. That's next week. You honestly think that women eat [ __ ] better than men?

  • 2:46:52

    Look at me. Of course. You think they cheat better than men? Eat [ __ ] better than men. Right. Eat the box. Like I

  • 2:46:58

    just think we more attentive to it. They do. I think y'all dicks be ready to slide in when I be said. Y'all be ready

  • 2:47:04

    to slide in it and not really just go. I walked I walked to the kitchen with He like, "Hell no." I be hitting that [ __ ] I'm a

  • 2:47:11

    munch. Listen, you a lesbian then, bro. Well, we been saying that

  • 2:47:18

    you a lesbian truthful lesbian with a beard, too. Nasty ass old [ __ ] Lesbian

  • 2:47:25

    flavor saver. That boy got the flavor save all. He be like this.

  • 2:47:31

    Hey, big man. Wait, answer his question. You think women cheat better than men? Way

  • 2:47:37

    better, bro. You want me to tell you why? I know you ain't [ __ ] Can I Can I give y n I'm so much [ __ ] I hear the

  • 2:47:43

    songs. Let me tell you. Let me tell you, bro. Y'all [ __ ] are hard. Y'all are dumb as [ __ ] Y'all be cheating in the

  • 2:47:49

    dumbest way. It's really like dogs and cats. Women really are like cats. Like you know when like dog [ __ ] like a [ __ ]

  • 2:47:57

    a dog will like smell the treat, pee, and then just [ __ ] right there, right? Like a a cat will be like kitty like

  • 2:48:04

    digging [ __ ] bury the [ __ ] bury the [ __ ] and walk away. You won't even know she

  • 2:48:10

    [ __ ] and then and then if it's a cat the only way a woman want you to know she cheated is if she mad at you or she

  • 2:48:15

    hates you. And that's what cats do. If you know about cats, if a cat hates you or not hates you, if a cat is mad at you

  • 2:48:21

    or you or at their owner, they'll [ __ ] in the house. That's how you know your cat is mad at you is cuz she'll [ __ ] or

  • 2:48:28

    like pee in the house. You know what [ __ ] the game up? Well, women are women. When another cat call another cat and want to come to them as a

  • 2:48:34

    woman. The [ __ ] did you talk about? [ __ ] the game up. You reading my mind. Like,

  • 2:48:40

    oh my god. Women are not a monolith. So, there's no way to tell when you're dealing with a woman who will tell your

  • 2:48:47

    woman. Like, if we just had a sign, remember like Justin was in that movie End Time where he looked at his watch and see how much time he had left. If we

  • 2:48:54

    could look at our watch and see this [ __ ] will tell on. She's a teller. Yeah. We won't do it. What you mean the junk you messing with? Yes, the girl

  • 2:49:00

    will tell. They tell. And then they want to check your girlfriend's Instagram stories. Now your girl see her big ass

  • 2:49:06

    face at the bottom of the screen checking her stories. Now she like, "Who's this new [ __ ] up?" So why so so so why do y'all Okay. I'm just curious

  • 2:49:13

    when y'all cheat cuz I've never cheated on. Well, we don't cheat up here. Podcast full of faithful men. When y'all used to cheat or when y'all used to

  • 2:49:20

    cheat? Like I'm so curious. I be asking my boys like, "Why do y'all cheat in the same vicinity as your girl?" This is the

  • 2:49:26

    the Instagram era. You could be cheating with somebody in Swahili and get caught. Yeah, but it's a little bit It's a little bit harder.

  • 2:49:34

    Oh, you done did it. You Nah, I'm good. No, no, no. I I ain't even remotely thinking about It's a little harder. I

  • 2:49:39

    think dudes don't tell. Most guys won't tell. They don't want you to leave your man. I want you to keep being the side.

  • 2:49:46

    I ain't even if I caught feelings, I'm still not going to snitch and call your dude and be like, "Yo, big brother. I'm

  • 2:49:52

    just coming to you as a man." This is That's my beef with the gay girls. The gay girls. The gay girls is crazy. I

  • 2:49:58

    love it. These gay girls know how these [ __ ] is moving because y'all dealing with them. Y'all understand what? Y'all

  • 2:50:04

    understand what time it is. Y'all understand what time it is. Meaning what? You understand how tricky it can

  • 2:50:09

    get sometimes. True. If you're dealing with somebody you like and you develop a good rapport and now they just do

  • 2:50:15

    something totally out of whack that you couldn't predict to let your partner know. So, it just gets tricky dealing with women. Yeah. No, it's very tricky.

  • 2:50:22

    And I've bro because of that I I got myself in some situ in a situation that was like a little messy. No, not you.

  • 2:50:30

    Really? Not you. Not Jazzy. Not big J. I hate that y'all think of me. So these

  • 2:50:36

    spokes are just wild. This is crazy. Watch. I'mma pop out one day with a dress on and be married to a [ __ ] I'm

  • 2:50:43

    joking. Girl, please started sweating. Would say that. But but but I will say

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    um bro, I ain't going to hold y'all. We just need to just, bro. Like that whole

  • 2:50:54

    Mr. Studio girl, all that [ __ ] is dumb, bro. Like [ __ ] just need to just like they got you. Yo, it's all right.

  • 2:51:00

    Listen, somebody got somebody. Yo, what's her name? Yo, we

  • 2:51:06

    going to try to find No, it was But I needed all those lessons. I agree. I

  • 2:51:11

    agree because those lessons like what if I was to mess with somebody who I ain't had [ __ ] to lose and they would have just [ __ ] me up or like you know what

  • 2:51:17

    I'm saying? I'm glad that it was with somebody that I needed. I'm glad. I'm glad. Oh [ __ ] She got hurt by somebody

  • 2:51:23

    where she lose. Yo, Statue of Liberty. She in New York. Go. Yeah. We going to help you find that. No, I don't want

  • 2:51:29

    that. Damn, man. You just said you wanted to send her some roses. No, they're my girlfriend. You signed the candle at NDA. I'm talking about, you

  • 2:51:36

    know, like taking She signed the NDA. That good NDA. Super [ __ ] too. Oh,

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    man. We going to take this picture and get out. Yeah. Right. Listen, we absolutely love you. We are

  • 2:51:51

    all fans of you. You have our support. If you ever need anything, please, you know, I am a call or a text away. Thank

  • 2:51:59

    you for coming. Make some noise for [ __ ] man.

  • 2:52:06

    And if you do indeed if y'all want to move around later, I was going to stay in, but if y'all do want to move around

  • 2:52:14

    later, you already tell them yesterday. Yo, now you got an excuse. N I wasn't even going

  • 2:52:20

    out. I want Jazzy is the home girl. You can't really tell your girl you going out with to show a good time. Damn.

  • 2:52:27

    She's like me. Like if go home and say, "Yo, Joe want to just go out and have some fun." This girl will be like, "Yo,

  • 2:52:33

    what's up with this folklore of me? I'm a good Yo, I'm a peace. I'm going to make sure you get home on time." My girl

  • 2:52:40

    loves you. My girl lo She's She's so mad that she not here. Bring her outside. We got you. We got you. And we got Kesha

  • 2:52:46

    Cole coming. She was here for [ __ ] the mayor of Newark. She's so mad. She

  • 2:52:51

    watch. She's so mad. She tight. We got the good [ __ ] coming down.

  • 2:53:00

    Uh again, Jie, we love you, man. Yo, hit Willie for me, please. Please. Look,

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    they don't look like they going to hit Willie. No, he really going to hit. No, for real. They was so They told me you wore Will Willie. Like they I always

  • 2:53:13

    wear Will Willie and it's some of that [ __ ] I can't get my proper size in in Burgd off. If he right there in Brooklyn

  • 2:53:18

    somewhere, somebody text this [ __ ] Look, he ain't texting nobody. Send me some. Please hit Willie for that's all I

  • 2:53:25

    got. If we do, you got to I'm telling you, watch. I'm stepping out. We need to We need a guilt. I'm stepping out. No, no, for sure. You got that for

  • 2:53:32

    me. Make some noise. Will [Music] [Applause]

  • 2:53:38

    Yes, sir. That was great. Absolutely love Josie. Yeah. So happy she came by.

  • 2:53:45

    Mhm. So fire. Um I see some talk out there about them

  • 2:53:50

    wanting us to That looks like [ __ ] Yeah. It does. I see some talk out there

  • 2:53:56

    about them wanting us to get rid of the sleeper segment. I don't know. It's been such a staple. No, cuz they say that's

  • 2:54:03

    the only This person said that that's the only way to truly uh evolve the show and take it

  • 2:54:11

    away from anything with old remnants from what used to be one, two, or do

  • 2:54:16

    some reconstructioning to get it back in its proper light of discovery, discovery

  • 2:54:22

    of music. I don't know. I want to ask y'all. I read it. It made some sense. I want to ask y'all, should we take a vote

  • 2:54:29

    to end the sleeper segment all together? I'm not mad at a reimagination of it. I

  • 2:54:34

    don't know how that looks, but what' you say ish? Uh I like playing I like

  • 2:54:40

    shining lights on unknown artists, but there is times where we play like major artists. So, we do. But I I think that

  • 2:54:46

    um the the appreciation that we get from the new artists that get their [ __ ] broken on a

  • 2:54:54

    platform this big is dope. Hey yola. Hey Po, wherever you at, go set up. Oh, got

  • 2:55:01

    it. All right, so what we'll do is we'll skip sleepers this episode. You sound like a anish.

  • 2:55:07

    He's right. I mean, I think it's I think it's super dope to shine. I just I think sometimes it gets weird. We're playing some non super artist. Yeah, like if

  • 2:55:16

    there's a reimagination, fine. But let's play them until we reimagine it. Listen,

  • 2:55:22

    man. We got a good weekend coming up. We'll be back with Sleepers next week.

  • 2:55:27

    Shout to the first and last time listeners. We want to thank Jazy for coming by for sure. For sure. For sure.

  • 2:55:33

    For sure. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time. We bid you do. Farewell. Adio

  • 2:55:41

    Sariva Dery Aa Vista Arvoir. So long. Goodbye. A simple headn will suffice.

  • 2:55:48

    Anybody doing anything fun this weekend? Roose picnic. Picnic. Oh yeah. Roose picnic. Picnic. Going to a Mets game

  • 2:55:54

    tonight. I got some family [ __ ] Sunday. Parks been outside. Yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot going on. Parks be moving

  • 2:56:00

    around here. It's a lot. Papa better rave. Get word. Shout out to everybody

  • 2:56:05

    going to the roots picnic. Shout out to the roots. Shout out to Black Thought. Shout out to Quest Love. Always the

  • 2:56:12

    whole Philadelphia city of brotherly love. Shout out to Tank. All our friends of the show for sure. Everybody in the

  • 2:56:20

    community, man. Shout out to the Patronis. facts. Everybody checking this podcast out. Enjoy your weekend.

  • 2:56:27

    May got out of here like it had somewhere to be. We prepping for June. First of the month is tomorrow. You know

  • 2:56:32

    what I mean? Them bills don't stop. That's a fact. Them bills do not stop. And it's so depressing, man. Let's get

  • 2:56:39

    to the strings right quick. Hey, [Music]

  • 2:56:44

    good job, y'all. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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    no. DaddyP, where would you be without

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    [Music] No.

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    [Music]