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Enjoy the show. I don't just be allowing [ __ ] to have just whole talks with my son. First of all, he did that. I wasn't

paying attention. He did that. He did. But I look up and see my baby in in under duress. His face was turning

around. So I take my headphones off. He definitely needed help and he and he talking about his his wingman. That

[ __ ] was holding his arm. The man's man passionately like one brat brook dog.

What is going on in here? That's what you pay tuition for, [ __ ] Oh [ __ ] So he could

and then Ice made some joke about how I he that's my boy cuz I used to take out

like what do you He was I don't understand what's going on. Yeah, that's all.

Why y'all always start just like on nonsense? Why we can't ever promote

positivity being friends? That's not what we do here. High morale. Like y'all

get It ain't even minute two yet. Exactly. And y'all have agitated my entire bloodline

and you're shooting at me with a good friend of mine. Come on, Freeze.

I just salute him. Keep it pushing. Come on. That's what you do. Yep. Got you. One of those. I took Michael Ball out

with me. That boy too now. Why? But then that started going ary. Yeah,

that started little overlap. Yeah, that's [ __ ] Michael Ball boy. Anyways, shout out to him and his wife.

Um, what's up? What's happening, man? This

the squad right here. I woke up excited today. You know, this the talking big.

Yeah. Oh [ __ ] What's up y'all? What's good? How y'all

doing? How y'all feeling? Y'all looking good? Something about rainy weather in Jersey make [ __ ] put the all black on

when they get when they get to with the money in his socks. I see you is boy. You going old school. Your socks look a

little Your ankle look a little swole. Or is that your age? That's money. That's She had surgery on here. My fault. I don't know. I thought I thought

my man took it back, man. And my ankle don't look swollen. Well, and more importantly than that, I remember some pods long long long long ago where you

was like, "Yo, man. If I could, like if I really if that I was built

like that, I would go get the Travis. If I was built like that,

[Applause] suck a [ __ ] dick or something. I mean, it was Father's Day. I mean, it was

Father's Day. That's steak and [ __ ] day all over again. You know what I mean? Get your ass in

that kitchen. Huh? Egg whites. Now, since I'm trying to be healthy, I never said that in my life. Hey, give me some

egg whites. I need a yolk. Yeah. Sorry. That was crazy. Hey, yolk is crazy. No,

yolk is Give the man the yolk if he wants it. Yolk is safe. That's a egg. I'm supposed to want the yolk. Okay, you

got it. Mic check. Keep this applause going for the best crew in this entire universe.

You know what I mean? We are in the building. Let me get these drops out the way fast. Whole gang is here.

Stop wanting eggs. Mark, you don't have to keep defending yourself, buddy.

You give me that.

Excuse me, sir. I'm sorry. I have to wake you to the doctor. Who is that? Who is that?

[ __ ] Flip and Mel. Mel. Mel. First of all,

none of this is possible without prize picks. Shout out to the gang here. Brought to you by, fueled by, sponsored

by, you already know the vibes when we in the building. What episode is this? 835. Welcome to episode 835. I am Joe

Button, also known as Joseph Anthony Button, better known as Nah, Joe Button.

Still, the real name you're here with some real amazing people. To my right.

To my right. Hold up for a minute, man. Stop playing. How you doing? I'm great. Hi, Miss Ford. I'm afraid to see what

he's about to [ __ ] play with your elbow pad on. I said a hop hop

in a hip. You know what I mean? Make some noise. Wig James in the building.

[Laughter]

Hey, shout to the melodies. Let me hear you in your car out there. Hey

[ __ ] wig J. Big Melissa for wig J

in the building. Okay, let's see. Give it to him. Down by

That's my favorite one. Wig James. Yeah, it's my favorite. It's my favorite one so far. Melissa Ford is in the building.

Make some noise. Uh next to her, Queens get the money.

Queens Flip is in the building. Yo yo yo uh yo ch when they say my name [ __ ]

clap smile. He don't really do that during nobody intro. Yeah he quick and then on his intro he want to sit there

like I'll be certain the [ __ ] out of here. I'll be sure that [ __ ] beat you

up over here boy. Next to flip know the vibes. Y'all seen the Travis.

You seen Hey, the muffin shirts is back. The shop is back open. The shop is open.

You see there? [ __ ] out of here. We the muffin. Hey, the muffin shirt is back. And we bought We took a We took a little

break, but we dust. Hey, we went up to the attic. We bought a property. Next, Uncle Bobby's [ __ ] open the shop right

in the building. Too soon on this [ __ ] man. Back in

business. Look at him. Look at him. He didn't need to die today. You didn't need to die

today. Make some noise. Y'all see who it is. Y'all see Hey, I don't know what y'all are doing this Saturday. Uh-huh.

Oh, I know where we going. I saw the flyer. I don't know where I

seen the flyer. Oh, it's Saturday. This Saturday, Mr. [ __ ] Now, let me not blow it up.

Let me not blow it up. I mean, but I mean, make some noise. Big freeze.

Yep. Yep. Yep. Glad to be back. Yeah, man. We missed you. Missed you. Yeah, we did. Definitely. I was spend

crying. But go ahead. Go ahead. Yeah. Okay. Graduation. Oh, right. Right. Two of

them. Two. Dad. Go ahead.

Get it, [ __ ] He is a child. Okay. Greg, get him.

Pop the laptop. Get out your man.

Who's the man? Yeah. Oh yeah. Here.

Introducing. There you go. There you go. Talk about it. Fresh off a flight. Huh? Huh?

Smelling like [ __ ] What? Clean the mace off you. The pepper spray. Smell

like milk. Smell. Smell like mister. Keep a gallon

of milk around. Mister. Don't call the cops on if I got injured. [ __ ] I got it. I don't know

about that. That's what he said. I hurt him. Don't fall. Don't fall. He did say that. He did. He did say that. Make some

noise. Three time potter of the month.

Dr. Mark L.

Black and he's proud. Big Miz up in the building. The busiest.

The busiest. The busiest. Elmyra's finest parks in the [ __ ] building.

Po's here. Tra's here. Cory's here. Ericson is here. I think Ian and Kea still here. S Tanner and Savon are here by remote. Last, but certainly not

least, each and every one of you guys is here. How's everybody doing? You [ __ ]

is looking like y'all bought new cologne recently. Y'all looking like y'all not just working off that 2021 pack of cologne.

Y'all look like it's a couple bottles some perfume. What's up with y'all? Good, man. Good, man. Good. Chill. Feel good. Good. [ __ ] look like they had

good weekends. Had a great weekend. [ __ ] look like they Damn. I ain't going to lie, y'all [ __ ] look good.

How was Father's Day collectively? Uh, Joe. Uh, let's start

with me. Mine was fantastic. Uh, got my little man dressed like only

dad could. Not that [ __ ] mom be putting on him. Uh, went over to my dad's. We

had some breakfast. Has had some good conversation. had some love and then I left him.

Left his little ass right there. I went home and got the best of nats and didn't

feel bad at all. Trey hit me was like, "Yo, I got us a reservation. 5:30 fly

little halo spot. Let me know if that's if that's your bag. I don't know if that's our bag." I hit him around 3:30.

Big dog, dead, dad, daddy. I'm going to bed and there's

nothing y'all could do to get me out of it. Cuz on Mother's Day when I call the moms up, they be like, "No, take this

little nigga." And I want the day free. Yep. So, I got the day free. Yeah. And it was a blast. And my kids still love

me and I love them. How about you guys? Me? I was out of town.

outside of town, Indianapolis, working on some content. Um, you know, um, what's out in Indianapolis? Just a

content place. Just a place that I chose just to be adventurous. Um, yeah. Want to assist for Mark Smooth. I, um, look

at them now. No, I went out there, did some content out there. Uh, Father's Day

without the family, you know, it's the first one. Um, it was a little sad, but, you know, it gets easier each year.

Yeah. The the noise in the house. No, it doesn't. The noise in the noise in the house. uh distracted me from that. But I

got a a nice message from my children and my wife. And it was it was nice. Just filming and and having fun,

providing, getting money, providing. I got to provide. Keeping a roof over the head. Keeping food in the fridge.

Keeping the lights on. Hey, the vacuum. It's bags in the vacuum. Some [ __ ] got Roombas. Hey yo, listen. Stop playing

with us. What's a What's a good Father's Day without an understanding family? Cuz [ __ ] can't just go out of town. I got

I got the I got the the perfect setup. You [ __ ] be so mad. I see your think pieces out there. My setup is wonderful,

[ __ ] It's like the automatic leather fancy leather couch that you just press the button and it just makes you feel

soothing and sleep. [ __ ] my [ __ ] is lit. It's Father's Day. Every time y'all sit on the couch for me. Remind me of

when dad went in Zach Bob's furniture, [ __ ] [ __ ] the Jennifer

convertibles, huh? Hey, who raised their prices? Are they still around? Yeah.

They ain't the Jeep is no more neither. Them the couches with the buttons and the cup holders and the Wi-Fi. Oh yeah.

The price went up even in there. And the white the white stitching. No. Yeah. No. Dead ass. What? The white stitching for

my basement. Yeah. I wanted a nice cheap c my wife wouldn't let me get an expensive couch cuz I'm a child. So I

went to one of them spots. That [ __ ] is amazing. This isn't the same couch that you spoke about. No, no, no. This is the

basement. Like Got it. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. Not the not the sleep cave. Yeah. Not the sleep divorce couch.

Got it. Okay. That's um nothing. Just lunch. My

family. That's it. What did you have, [ __ ] Fish. Oh,

[ __ ] Okay. You in this fish. You caviar all right. [ __ ] went white. Father's

Day cavi [ __ ] Some No. No. He has some fancy [ __ ] Yeah. He's a little brzy, you

know. Bass fish. Sea bass. It was large buff

black joint. [Music] Fire. Where the restaurant at? No, it

was home. Oh, at the crib. Your mother-in-law came through and cook. Mama, right? You know using your

mother-in-law enough, [ __ ] Take all the [ __ ] off. Yeah. She a monster. She's a chef and

she do everything puree everything, [ __ ] All right, [ __ ] It's all right. Who Who went out and got Who went out and got the fish? Did they go fishing

for a king? What the hell is for king? 4 a king. They went and caught that fish.

No, no, no, no, no. They go to this uh special little lake. Nah, for real. It's a special fish spot that you know the

foreigners don't play. That's what's up. Catch it. But when they went to get the fish, what was you in the crib doing?

Just lamping. Just lamping. Huh? Sleep. Sleep with his t-shirt on. Like a [ __ ] king. You still sleep with your

t-shirt on, [ __ ] Don't you right? Travis is by the bed waiting to go out waiting waiting to get your father.

Wait, was they

fire? No, we didn't. We be here every day, dog. You've never

worn Travis Scottish, we would have made these jokes then. Yes. If you said you were saying

mad mad times. I'm not going to cosign that. I can't. All right, y'all. Not

their fault. They going to find it. Is it Is it both until they do, right?

It's a beautiful thing when you saving up for some [ __ ] and then you get it. I didn't save.

I remember the episode. Yo, when y'all find the episode, watch.

No. Yeah. He said, "Yo, you do. I'm not I can't do I'm not the type to I can't I

got to save these. Not those. Those are Travis." Yeah, those those say cactus jackal. No. And it's the price

difference. Your shits was too big. Those the entry level Travis. No. Or did your mans hook you up like you got like they fell off a truck. What you doing?

Anyway, bro. You know it's got small feet. Big. What' you do? Big size sixes.

Yeah, you can get them cheap. I was just talking about you having Travis's on. I

wasn't talking about mine. Comparison is the devil's breakfast. Your Travis.

Where the [ __ ] did you get that from? You be just saying that is so

I never heard that [ __ ] idiot. I heard idle time is the devil workshop

and I heard Harrison is a thief of joy but he just [ __ ]

this dy ass [ __ ] over here the devil's brain devil's what the [ __ ]

are you talking about devil's [ __ ] yo anyway man this [ __ ]

rapper brain what's up y'all yeah cover it up cuz you ain't lotion shut the [ __ ] up leave me alone it's cool we freeze

free free father's day. Oh no, I had one of the best father's day ever. Um breakfast in bed like yo don't wake

don't get up whenever you want. I take care of everything. Uh even from baby moms put a dope ass collage together of

pictures of me from me and my daughter from when she was born all the way to

her graduation that occurred a couple days before. Fire. Um cards from the

kids. Like I said I cried all weekend. I'm not freeze. It get better for you every year. Don't you? Yeah. the same [ __ ] last year. Had to Well, and then

this one top last year. I love it. [ __ ] Just keep getting better. More importantly though, I was going to say y'all y'all remember um the family

member that I told y'all about that I would never speak to again. We squashed that. Wow.

We We met up We met up um Wednesday. Had a real hugged it out. Had a

conversation. Talked. Got all our [ __ ] Cry some more. Yeah. A

dope, [ __ ] Who initiated it? the conversation. Yeah. Well, we were there, you know, I know the situation with my

pops and everything. So, we were there for that. And um then we just started talking. She did though. Okay. She's

like, "Yo, come in. Let me holl at you real quick." And then I got ready to say something and she was just like, "Yo, before you say a word, let me let you

know I'm sorry for all that shit." A and then we just It goes a long way. Apologies go a long way saying that.

Accountability is a monster. So, I I've had the week like I've been on a high all week. It's God's lunch.

That's a good one. When you out when you out all week, that's facts. That's facts.

But that's I a I ain't do much bad. I uh Saturday I was my daughter came up to see me uh cuz I was going to be out of

town on Sunday. Uh and I was in Chicago almost until like 7:00 p.m. So, uh Saturday I was with her, but my back was

super jacked up. I was laid out the whole time. Went to a couple doctors. So, but it was nice to have my daughter there cuz she was able to help me deal

with my son. Um, and it was beautiful, man. Just spend time where she was. You do need help with your Oh, that

[ __ ] [Laughter] He's a psychopath.

He tore this mama up and and uh and um and in Spanish, right?

That [ __ ] heard muffin in Spanish and it was over. He lost it. He lost it. But yeah, it was good for them to see them.

I first time I seen her in 6 months cuz she had been in Spain us doing a study abroad. Oh wow. and now she pay to have

a rich daddy, whatever, man. And now she's down uh in in DC doing some intern stuff. So, it it was really nice to

finally see her and him and see them. It's just great. It was it was great. And then when I came back on Sunday night, uh we went my wife took me to

dinner. She got me a bunch of great gifts. Fire. Um which is the best part for me cuz they're always so thoughtful,

you know, and uh it was good. It it was it was good. I feel good. I had a good weekend. Oh, yeah. Mon Monday morning I

put my baby little Bank of America card to some good use. some good usage. Yeah. Shout shout out

to her. Shout to her. Yeah. Um, so all of that was great. Do you brothers and

lady want to take a time to pan to the camera and speak to your other sons,

your other children that you may have out there?

I'm good. Oh, I all my possibles walked. So

I think I'd remember if I had a kid. So, no.

Anybody else here? No. Flip. No. Catch me if it can.

I think I know. I think I know what I think I know what you mean. It's a lot of I think I know what you mean, right?

Oh, yeah. I mean, I didn't know. I'm speaking in gold. You're not talking about children. Children. You just talking about [ __ ] that you fathered

in. Yeah. In your field. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I know who it is. Hey yo, [ __ ] I'm up,

[ __ ] You still my son? Yeah. Listen, daddy's home. There's a few of y'all out there

that I didn't show all the attention that I really wanted to this year cuz I've been overwhelmed with work.

I want y'all to know I'm proud of y'all. Some of y'all have made strides. I seen

the BET pre-show, [ __ ] I seen you. The pre-show. I seen the pre-show when you

was up there, [ __ ] I was in bed clapping. Who else I seen? I seen my Hey, my sons

did my day. They ain't do too bad this year. I ain't going to lie, [ __ ] I had to shut up. It's like, oh, these

[ __ ] progressing.

It's not all right. M want to join me so bad. Keep I mean, I don't know.

Listen, I want to let y'all know I'm still here. Y'all are still on my mind.

And I still love each and every one of y'all. And I will get back to you soon.

Okay, that's it, man. Keep it light. Keep it light. Anyway, where would you guys and gals like to begin?

Where would y'all like to begin? Hold up y'all. We can't do a pod with this much

energy. Hold up y'all. We We talking over each other. It's laughter. One mic. One mic.

Okay. Come on, y'all. calm down a little bit. Where do you want to go? I

mistakenly assumed thinking that I knew you better than I do that you were going to lead off with a Steve Harvey joke.

That's where I thought you were going. Uh, and because I've gotten to know you

quite so well, I knew that if I didn't, you would.

Take us take it away, Cap. No, I don't I don't have a joke and I definitely don't have any audio queued up. Um,

but there's a new trend on the internet where they at least among the JBTV

community community to pull back some of our greatest hits and I did that cuz my whole life was trash past uh seven years

ago. Well, they pulled out one of Melissa Savannah Ford.

Me? You're the one and only the other. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah. when Steve Harvey saw

her on the red carpet or something like that. Well, they saw each other cuz you started off with a very um somebody to

Steve Harvey and you were like, "Hey, Mr. Harvey, you you don't remember this? Do you remember this interaction?" Well,

no, it's on film. So, so it definitely happened. I saw it like four times. Okay. Um here it is. Right here. 14

times. Here it is. Well, why don't we play it? You know what? You you've done now Steve Harvey is doing a whole

another interview and you're doing a separate interview, right? I'll play it for you from here.

Say that. Hi, Mr. Harvey. You know what? You you've done a great thing. Steve is coming over here. Steve, I know you

going to come hang out with us. There you go, Steve. I'm going to put Steve right over here cuz he's Steve. Ste.

[Laughter] What was that note? If you had to rate

her, Steve, what would we be? 35. 35. I'm going to pause it. Yes. Do you

remember it now? Vaguely. Yeah, it's um it's backstage at the BET Awards and

trying to guess by like my hairstyle. I don't care about that. Were you ready? 2006.

Temperatures rising. I mean,

I will. That's my only question. I just want to know where were you

ready. And he doesn't mean prepared. Just answer me. That [ __ ] crispy cream

that cream beating around the bush with this one.

Yeah, that's my only question. And I'm tossing it to more educated brothers. You do realize that every time I left

the house during that stage of my life, I was in character. The minute I walked

out the door, I was in character. What character were you playing in that moment? Um, who are you? Jessica Rabbit.

Okay. Hello. Okay. All right. So, my new question is, was your character ready?

Right. This is some fun. Now, I didn't see some

S some Vanna Floyd movies. Let me tell you something. If this is a

character, let me just play one more time, man. 35 easy. Steve, tell us about

you coming back to LA and then, you know, Melissa doing her thing. I mean, we got we got it all right. You all in

his face are crying for me. I don't I'm too old for Put your teeth away.

Melissa is done. She don't Can she come on your show? There's a lot of teeth in this local.

She can move in my house actually. I'm so adorable.

Are you really? I am. Oh my god. Do you hear my voice? I sound like a baby. Uh,

baby, [Music] we with you right up to that last word.

I didn't hear that. Baby bird. One more time. One more time. See what's going on.

What' you say? I said I'm moving to LA. Steve, right after he said he lived in LA and was single. Oh my god. And you

could live in this house. And you can live in this tub. I don't remember any of this, by the way. I believe you.

Yeah, I am. This was just a Tuesday

I think I'm up for the challenge. Wait, what?

That was You was I'm up for the challenge. Holy [ __ ] She threw herself

on She threw herself on a platter. Take me. I got

to talk the [ __ ] out of the computer. I got [ __ ] small

[Music] my Oh my god. If you don't get

math. So, can you answer my question? And then I'm tossing to them. I don't want to spend too much time censoring Mel. We

have a show to get to, but this did go lightweight viral. And it seemed it

seemed like I could be wrong. Seems like you're ready. Seems like you're ready. Girl,

you was ready to go on the way to ste.

No, you was ready. I was not. I was totally just playing into the role of

Melissa Ford aka Jessica Rabbit. It was very much a part of my persona at that point. It was a huge part of my persona.

[ __ ] Mr. High Tower. Oh, for [ __ ] sake.

Shout out to you. No, girl. I don't think she would have done it. Me neither. I'm just think

I mean it's it's your body. You have a right to if you wanted to. I'm just saying. But you know me. Come on. Ah,

that's true. That's true. I don't think he if he knew he would have

I don't think he know you that well. I know quite well. And I I It's funny to

look at that video and flash back to those, you know, to that era. Yeah. Super interesting. All right, hold on.

Listen. You putting it right there for me. Please stop. You put it right on my You acting like how she was with Steve.

You putting a planner right there. Let's move on. I'm just I'm practicing something new called Leave Melissa's

Business Alone. Yeah. No, it's it just went viral. So, it was interesting. Mel and Mark just got clips that pop up

that's just like they so entertaining. We've had different lives, different

lived. Yeah. Mhm. Resty heart. I It's nothing big. It just made me laugh to see that and watch you flirt with him.

That is it. It's funny to watch it myself. So, you do know that I was flirting. Yeah, of course. Okay.

I was I thought you was going to deny it. Honestly, I thought that you don't know Mel then she don't hide from nothing. No, of course I'm not denying

that that was flirting, but I'm saying that that was such a huge part of my persona that literally

you'd be hardressed to find an interview where I didn't come across like I was flirting. Like, you know, if I'm considered like this pinup girl, which I

literally was because I had calendars and posters and the covers of magazines.

I'm going to do is for a minute, can I ask a question? Yeah. Can you then see how back then in the height of your era,

people may not have seen you the way you thought you were being seen given what you just said? Oh, he said he said I

didn't know how.

You didn't eat right there. You didn't eat. You didn't eat. You

didn't eat. You didn't eat with that comment. And the fact that you all I was trying to eat. I was I was really asking but you are you didn't eat like you

thought you ate nothing it's some [ __ ] tag team [ __ ] and it's [ __ ] stupid because I didn't nowhere did I

say that people regarded me as [ __ ] Mother Teresa. No no no no no that at all. I never I never said

that at all. You didn't say that. You know but I also said flirtation doesn't mean that you're a [ __ ] [ __ ] No no

no no. I'm talking about but that's the is literally what this couch and you know that's not me. I don't I don't want

to get too heavy, but it's it's the persona I'm talking about, not you. You like you said, there was a persona that people thought was you. And that's the

thing we were trying to say to you is that there's a way people saw you that might be different. Don't change it up now, [ __ ] That's exactly That's exactly what we've been talking about

the whole time until that damn book came out. Right. Right. That's what I was saying. Okay. Got it. I got it. I see

where we're at today. New I got it. I see I see where the [ __ ] was that? I see it. I see it. I see it. It's cool. It's

[ __ ] cool. No, that Am I missing something? No. Okay, don't worry about me. I got you.

I got you. How you got me? Go ahead. No, I got you. Another

sing this [ __ ] Hold up. Pause this real quick. They played this the other day

and I thought when you said you [ __ ] like that song about dancing with your dad, you [ __ ] you call me that [ __ ]

bother. I don't like take that back now. This is the best song ever. Yeah. He said I was liking this song.

He said you [ __ ] like dancing with your father. I never danced with my dad. See, look. I

never dance with my dad either. Me either. But there's nothing wrong with it. And the fact No, there's nothing wrong with it. Yeah. I mean, I dance

with my son. There's something wrong with it. Well, I don't. But I would. There's something wrong with it.

What you doing, man? What kind of dancing? If your dad crack Yeah. Like like you know, like twirl. Yeah. Like

Yes. With your pops. If you listen to the song, he's dancing with his mom and his dad though. Does he twirl you or do

you twirl him? This song had a lot of hidden messages. So I don't know. There's no hidden message. He just loved

his dad and his dad died when he was 16. 16. Yeah. I thought it was happy belated father. Oh, he's younger than that.

Excuse me. Yeah. He's a baby. Shout out to Luther. And shout out to you [ __ ] Uh happy birthday to y'all [ __ ] who

had a birthday on Father's Day. Buck. Uh there's a few of y'all that that's a good birthday. Shout to Buck. Um

where would you like to go? No good, bro. Now, dude, y'all was humming. R. Kelly, I'm shooting you back for I'm

getting you too. Yeah, I don't like that [ __ ] I wasn't trying to shoot. No, it don't matter, bro. We not playing. Now, now it's over. Now, now it's You took it

too far now. Exactly, [ __ ] You [ __ ] with the wrong one now.

You did the old possum trick. Yeah. Cool. And then shot. I don't like this. That's what he do. And Mel been telling

them for weeks that he been doing it again. And she asked you to stop, [ __ ] Yeah, [ __ ] First of all, we're going to call you tonight at 7:15. Because we

know if we call you at 10:00, my other arm would be broke. So, I'm going to call you at 7:15, [ __ ] You keep

trying to throw [ __ ] over with these little tight jeans. I'm not shooting at nobody. I call you at I'm happy to

shoot. I'm not afraid to shoot. I just wasn't shooting. You know what? That was a good setup. It wasn't a setup. I

really was just thought this. All right. How about this? From this point on, can the people that like to shoot on here is

Mark Flip? I don't like to shoot anymore. My guns are Why you Why you stop at them names though? No. Why you start at them names?

Can y'all chill out just this episode and next episode we can shoot again. Like let's get a break. White flags. I

sold all my guns back to the state. They gave me money. I'm not shooting at a [ __ ] I'm waving a white flag.

[ __ ] don't want a beef in the Travis. Yes, [ __ ] Get want to scuff them up.

You brought the cleaner. Joe, these sneakers are mad old. A little brush. I don't know what you

talking about. Okay, man. Forget it. What's important? So, R. Kelly, and

that's Y'all were humming. R. Kelly, at least we can mention the fact that he was rushed to the hospital today for

what? Because uh um uh apparently the hospital uh the hospital the jail staff

gave him too much meds. He overdosed on whatever meds he was supposed to be getting. So he was rushed out of there.

But his team is saying they tried to kill him. That they tried to kill him. That is a plot to murder R. Kelly. Yeah. By the prison. Well, there was some in

there was a inmate that came forward before, you know, and that stated that that he was hired to kill R. Kelly. I

don't know if you heard about that. Have you heard about that? Yeah. I never believe that stuff. Oh, you don't believe that stuff? I don't believe anything. I mean, there's some documentation that, you know, you don't

believe the men, huh? No, I don't believe it's just him to It's a few people that when they got these long ass

cases, suddenly they all got plots to murder them and they all want to get out forever. That's all I'm saying. To me, that seems like a legal strategy to me.

That's all I'm saying. Mark, if I went to spend the next two years in Hudson

County or Essex County, they would try to kill me. Oh, yeah. I mean, but you're

you. Or you would say, "They're trying to kill me so I can get the [ __ ] up out of here." Yeah. No, they would try to

kill you in front of me. So you think 14 times with some [ __ ] No, I think he

really got stabbed. I'm saying though, people using it as a it becomes an opportunity sometimes like, "Hey, I I

ain't mad. I would do the same." If a [ __ ] k stabbed me 14 times, they was trying to kill me. And if a nigga's

trying to kill me, I'm trying to get the [ __ ] out of here. So you talk about it's an opportunity. I think it's a it's an

opportunity to save my life. In the in the Tory case, he's in there

for we not debating the case at all. Just dealing with the facts of where we at now. He's in there for a crime against a woman. A lot of times [ __ ]

crimes against kids, crimes against women. They'll [ __ ] you up. That's a fact. That's facts. That is true. That's

facts. But I don't see that being a reason to to be let out. Yeah. They just move you to another prison where you can

be amongst other people who are charged with and convicted of those same crimes.

Well, go to PC. That too. So Meg has the jail riding.

No, I didn't say that. I don't think that has anything to do with it. Has nothing to do with that. I didn't say that at all. [ __ ] know [ __ ] know

what you go for, what you here for. I'll be here all day. I don't care if this is how y'all want me to do it. I'm roll

with all of this [ __ ] All right. No, crimes against women. I get

it. I agree. Children, I give you, but you know, I don't know. I'm

a lot of [ __ ] in jail [ __ ] against women. Unfortunately, anyway, all I'm saying is that I think

R. Kelly, I mean, maybe they gave him more food. Maybe maybe they gave more medicine than he should have. I'm not saying that he's not right about the

overdose, just like I'm saying Tori really got stabbed. I'm saying the intention was is is lacking. That

there's an Yeah. Yeah. And that there might be an angle here to say, "Hey, let me out of prison because of it." That's all I'm saying. I'm just saying they're

taking as opportunities to get out. And if if I was in prison, I would do the same thing. I'm not m I'm not I'm not mad at that. Again, I don't even believe

in prison. But what I'm saying is that I'm not sure that there's a grand plot by the US government to to kill R. Kelly

is all I'm saying. That seems unlikely. If I was the US government, I would be

so pissed that everybody always put the [ __ ] on my jacket.

Like because some of these [ __ ] I may have tried to bust a move on, but the other side y'all just putting bodies on

me now, right? And they good, but they good at it. They killed so many people. If they they could kill Martin Luther

King and they can't get to R. Kelly. That's all I'm saying. They can kill Malcolm X. They can't get to R. Kelly. Like he said was the government trying

to kill him. Well, you say it's the He said it's the prison system, not a prisoner, but like the prisons. Oh, that's possible.

Careful, buddy. I still want to scale.

Let's fight. Chill, miss. My bad. Hold up. Nah. The first time I seen that JFK

doc, I was like, "What?" Yeah. That's what I'm saying. But they can't get the King R&B. Come on. In prison, right?

That seems like a pretty easy one. Layup. Why would somebody want to kill R, right?

I mean, I can think of some people that would. I had a good fire. I'm not even sure if I can think

of people that would. The people he thinking about negotiated their kids. Exactly. There's that. These these

parents and the victims wanted to stay there. Well, so

that's a good point. Stockhole. Stockholm. There you go. Stockholm. Yep.

I a I learned a lot from this podcast. I do. Ditto. I'm glad that this could be like some

educational [ __ ] for me. Don't start. What' you learn? [ __ ] you,

man. What you learn, doctor? Can't you just let me sit? Can I just agree with [ __ ] man? Uh, all right. So, R.

Kelly's out of here and no one gives a [ __ ] on these couches. Thought prayers prayers. Thoughts and prayers?

I got no thoughts and prayers for you. He won't. I knew he was going to say that. Is that the rule? Do we have to have thoughts and prayers for everybody

that is okay? graduated to that song. Hey Mark, question for you. Since you

don't believe in incarceration, what do you think should have happened to R. Kelly? Uh, should is an interesting

word. Okay. In in your utopian society, how would he have been handled? Yeah.

Get him, M. That's a different question. Okay. So, in my non-utopian world, I

would have hoped I'm not saying it's right, but I would have hoped he would have been handled a different way with the streets. The streets would

injustice. Got it. But in the proper thing, R. Kelly would have been uh managed much earlier. There have been

interventions. Um he clearly has mental health issues. He would have been he would have been forced to undergo mental health care and treatment and and

separated from society. We would had civil orders to keep him away from all young people. We would have done all the things to protect society while getting

holding him accountable while Bump and Grind was out. Oh yeah, for sure. He

knock it off. [ __ ] Maybe one of maybe the album. You know what I'm saying? That Well, that's Yeah, that's when they

got Yeah, that's when I mean cuz that was the first sign. You know what I And I think I think they have to do that. We have to do that because now he's just in

jail for a thous for a million years and the victims aren't really made whole. You know, all of that. And and to Joe's

point, there has to be accountability for these parents. Mhm. Cuz I don't want to pretend that R. Kelly was just

praying on these children. Yeah. No, some of these parents serve their kids up with like on on a platter. Absolutely. That happens outside of Yes.

I've heard stories. I'm not going to divulge too much, but from people I know that work in school systems and have

encountered that [ __ ] firsthand, it's like Oh, so conspiracy. No, it's not conspiracy. Well, you said some parents

some parents. Oh, you said you know some things. What do you know for No, he

said conspiracy theory. It's not a conspiracy. No, no, no, no. That conspiracy theory. You in a conspiracy.

This is a charge. He's making an allegation against you right now. If you know some things but

you not at liberty to say that's he said that he's not going to tell the person who dulged the information to him. He's

just not revealing his source. He's not revealing his source. That's true. He said it's not a conspiracy cuz those

people are dealing with law enforcement but they're not helping because there's no like proof or whatever. I'm just

joking. You said you was Aiden in a bed. This is funny. I'm not I would like there to be something I can do but I

can't. Word. Word man. Yo she on your ass. Oh, I can see it.

See? No, you going to get it. No, and he deserves it. It was a legit question. And he deserves it. I'm sick of all that

gotcha moment [ __ ] All right. What else is important or unimportant in here? I'm

leaving it to y'all cuz if I go on my phone, it's like some deep [ __ ] in there. I mean, it's raining. Yeah, I

think it's deep. I see Drake up hereing people in in in Canada.

Wait, what? Politicians. Sorry. Yeah. Okay. Why do I have to know who this guy

is? I'm mad that I even know who this polit I don't know who he is, but why is

this news again? Jagit Singh uh is a very popular uh Democratic left-leaning

liberal politician in Canada. Anyway, he went to the Drake show apparently. Kendrick show the Kendrick show. Excuse

me. He went to the Kendrick show. Drake wasn't happy about it. Sent him a DM call him a goof. Goof goof.

Sent that right after midnight. dude went made a public apology to Drake

saying I only went for scissor and and said I f fully stand with K with with

Drake in the Kendrick beef. I'm like what this it was so cowardly and embarrassing man but the internet is the

internet. Yep. They keep receipts and they got and they pulled up homeboy

having the time of his life to not like us. A minor

boy. He was having a slice. Shocking meatop.

[Laughter]

[Music] Well, we were discussing up here last week, you know, Drake's power and

influence in the kingdom. There you go. There is a perfect example of it. Okay.

Explain it to me like I'm a first grader. Fam, if you have enough oomph to make a politician publicly

apologized to you for going to a concert, that says something.

Okay. I don't know if we can. All because you DM'd him and called him a goof. They ain't said nothing else. Yo, you a goof. Yeah. Oh, I got to clear

that up immediately. Private insult, public apology, sir. Wild. Yeah, like if Hakeem Jeff stood up on the Twitter

right now and said, "I apologize to Kendrick Lamar for going to the Drake show." I apologize for Joe Button for watching somebody else show. Yeah. Like

that'd be wild. What you talking about? Yeah. There'd be a lot. It would be a lot. I mean, Drake is one of the most

influential artists in Canadian history. Hold up for a minute. All right. Explain it to me like I'm in

kindergarten. Yes, I understand the point that you're

making. That's fly. Okay. And it does show something.

I just don't get where the power part is. The power. I don't want to piss him off.

You call you called him a goofball. Yeah. Mhm. He apologized. So I can insult you, but he did go to the show.

No. And if he could do it again, he says maybe I wouldn't have went to the show. Yeah. I don't equate the politician dude

and his live concert choices to power. No, the power is now if they doing some

other [ __ ] back there that that's not seen then I'm with you. I'm just not

chalking this up. The power just the fact that he wanted to he felt

he needed to clean this up speaks to the power that Drake has here. I don't want

to be on the his wrong side no matter what. So I need to clean Drake. All he said was, "Yo, you a goof." And

privately it ain't like yo, you know what we working on. Yo, I'm not [ __ ] with you. I'm not rolling with you. I'm pulling my [ __ ] y'all are No, y'all

are going to brainwash my independent thinking. Or and and I still fly. Don't

think I'm taking that away. But or this politician dude is a [ __ ] Well,

there's that. Why we got Hold on. This wouldn't be the first time that we've seen one of the Toronto politicians do

some [ __ ] [ __ ] All right. Two [ __ ] is bitching. Why though?

Yeah. What what you because they they ain't did it to no other Toronto artist or speaks to him or another [ __ ] might

not have made this particular [ __ ] act like a [ __ ] You know when Eric Adams was telling y'all about the difference

between New York and Kansas. That's just how I look at some of this stuff though. Like what y'all saying is right. And

guess what happened? But in New York Eric Adams is the same [ __ ] that got up there and said, "Mr. Trump, I apologize,

Mr. Trump." Boss boss boss. Uh yeah. is you smarter than this. Eric Adams is

related to Bishop Whitehead. I know you know what the [ __ ] is going on in his

crib. You know, you know what's going on related to the rest of them [ __ ] that

Oh my god. Don't No, [ __ ] No. Keep the camera.

The views of Anton Marberry only reflect his own notet. Yo, unfortunately that separate the

drama everything. No, that's coming out. It was funny though. But it got It was

very funny coming out. But some rac

jammed up this summer. I'm trying to have a good summer. I'm trying to have a good summer. I don't want no smoke. So I don't want no

beef. So is homeboy. He's trying to have a good trying to have a good summer. So I don't want no smoke. I don't have no

comment on this. This is some of the bitchiest [ __ ] I've ever seen in my life. It is. But you would think that a politician has better, you know, bigger

fish to fry than worrying about in his presence at a concert insulting [ __ ] Drake. But apparently not. That is what

makes the situation. We've seen instances of [ __ ] like this happening since we've been Bro, this the [ __ ]

that said, "Yo, you got issues at the at the border. I can make a call. I'll get you through." Like he got some he he

moved. He got some movement up there. Jo, we've also heard other [ __ ] say, "Yo,

I had a show up there and I couldn't make it to my show because he called and said, "Don't let me through."

He got some whether you want to call whether whatever level you want to equate it to, he got some pole up there.

They know it. They're reacting like they do. We have We don't have Canadian right here. Mhm. I know. Making her bread and

butter here in New Jersey. Yeah, because I'm like, "What the [ __ ] are these [ __ ] talking?" Somebody made

a call. What is going on? Y'all talking to a New Yorker about Toronto Power? I get it. It is. It's

powerful out there. Who does anybody Does any rapper in the United States I would say Jay-Z?

Yes. Does any other rapper in the United States have that kind of power? No. Even the power that we're alleging Drake to

have? No. Nationally, no. But I'm sure locally for sure. Oh, yeah. Locally, for sure. Oh, hell yeah. Locally, yes. But

nationally, I doubt it. I don't even know if Jay-Z had other power nationwide. But all right, now we if you

telling me that and we could we y'all triggering me. If you telling me that Drake has power because he denied Duke

at the best Tim Hortons that Canada has to offer a a croissant.

If that's powerful then oh texting Barack right talking about be some level

of am I in the matrix they both powerful there's no it's not even an argument to

have I just hate I've seen Jay have I mean the NFL I mean there's just so many levels of he said could Jay stop

somebody from from going with who yo we been stop [ __ ] the [ __ ] in Canada

yo oh y'all still on

All right, take it back. I'm just saying the rappers like like like was said during the beef, you don't have to go to

Canada. Like he powerful out there, but you could just cut that whole part off

and not have to deal with it. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. That's true. But all we was just speaking to was the fact that he is

powerful there. That's it. I get it. It ain't as powerful. It don't matter to her. It don't matter to you as much as

as the United States. I get all of that. But still, he's powerful there. Got it. You got it. That's it. Yeah.

Y'all Matty. What's up? Chilling. Yo, we

That's some flaw [ __ ] Okay. I don't have a comment on it. I'm

chilling. I'm chilling. Since we talk about power, I've already said too much. So you talk about powerful people, man. I'm I'm going to ask you a question. If

you think you can still ask male questions for the rest of this time. Yes, he can. Go ahead.

Wave the white flag. I waved the white. I don't want nobody. I just want to know if you made it to the parade. That was all. I did not because after uh our

episode on Friday, well that we recorded on Friday that aired Saturday, my immigration lawyer called me and said,

"Don't you [ __ ] dare." And she did that as a preemptive cuz she'd been seeing, you know, people just being

detained and arrested and stuff like that. You're applying for naturalization. Don't go. Right. And I I said parade, I

meant protest. People were protesting. Donald Trump was having a parade for his birthday, which is bonkers. And people

went out there and protested a whole bunch of stuff. Well, they Well, they're protesting fascism. That was it. That's it. Not just his birthday, but all the

things. Yeah. So, you didn't go. I listened to my immigration law. The whole idea, but the whole idea of a

protest. All right, explain this to me. Establishment preschool.

Explain it to me like a preschooler. I thought the idea of a protest was like

it said, anti-establishment. I'm standing on this and willing to take any consequences that come my way. Raj just

got arrested. She's not willing to take Well, maybe I'm not willing to take all the consequences, but when but but

listen is right. Listen. Okay, listen. Yeah, cuz you don't believe in jail. No,

I don't believe in every every protest shouldn't sacrifice everything. You have to be strategic. Thank you. So, there

have been We have to sacrifice Malo. You know what? It's starting to look

like you are, [ __ ] Okay. Wake it up. That's wake it up.

[Laughter]

Now, let me talk. Oh, there has been several elections that I have not been

able to participate in because I am not naturalized and I have felt I have felt a way about that. In the upcoming

midterms, I would like to cast my vote. I would like for my vote to feel like my

vote matters. I do not want to sit on the sidelines anymore. And if that means becoming naturalized, that is the step

that I'm going to take. Do I want to [ __ ] up the process before I can even get to the end result? No, I do not.

That is why I listen to my immigration lawyer who has my best interest and my money in her [ __ ] pocket. But

by going to the protest, how what could she

out there? I don't I don't see you. So they would have checked for your credentials. I don't see you saying No, they could have [ __ ] detained me. ICS

is not worried based off of what though based off his nothing what the protest was. ISIS is not worried about due

process. They are [ __ ] detaining people and I got you. Why would they want to grab you like you read up on

what you had to go protest about? Why would she

was Ketta Scott King with all of that [ __ ] All right. Hey, I remember that

[ __ ] Hey, y'all shut the [ __ ] up. You better wave flag, [ __ ] He said,

"What are you doing this weekend?" I said, "Well,

all right. Tomorrow me and my friends are going to take a stand."

What they're doing is wrong. And here's the address. He pulled out a note. It's

going to be on Hudson Avenue, 955 Hudson Street, from from 3 to 8. I was like,

"Oh [ __ ] I was ready." So when I seen it on the news, [ __ ] I walked up to

the TV. I'm trying to find pausing walled over.

I'm trying to find this [ __ ] your favorite word.

And she ain't even And you didn't. The risk ain't worth the

reward. I can't believe you didn't go, man. I told I told you why. Listen, if I felt and my immigration lawyer felt like

I was not going to be detained, there was a possibility of me being detained by ICE, which would have completely I

wouldn't be sitting here wear your uh your one of your disguises you you be

wearing. Why you wear since you wore a root picnic j with the stupid glasses?

Oh man, I just feel like there's more you could have done. But maybe next time. Yeah, maybe during the midterms when I

am naturalized I can cast the funny [ __ ] about this. I agree with that 100%. Thank you, Mark. The funny thing is

what? Go on. The first bag of votes to get lost is going to have male vote in

it. She doing all this my vote matters. They hiding the [ __ ] out of votes.

All right. Well, I mean, yes, there is voter suppression, but you know, and that'll probably be another protest. And

I would like to participate in that one. Shout out to everybody who did go to the protest. They killed New York. All 12

million people nationwide. Nationwide. They protested all around the country protesting Trump's fascism, protesting

ICE, protesting everything you could imagine is going on. Him wiping the con his ass with the Constitution. Pretty

much people stood up and and spoke out. I was glad to see it. And his parade was it was poorly is the worst. It was

terrible. Nobody showed up to it. And having a birthday parade is crazy. But All them [ __ ] up town talk about some

Let me shut up. [ __ ] up town. Y'all got some nerve. What? What? They voted for your peoples.

Oh, they voted for him and now they all Oh, [ __ ] What you talking about? Uptown up town like Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah. Anyway, the protest looked fire. You don't think that's crazy for the

president to spend 40 million on a birthday party? No. That's crazy as good as they could. Now they're not saying it

was so much his birthday. It was a military parade to celebrate the 250 year of the military. It's sleeve to our

troops, but let's Exactly. But it was about Let's hear Ice out on this one. I just think [ __ ] are very egotistical.

And if they were the president, I would throw me. [ __ ] y'all. If I'm the president, I'mma throw some fly [ __ ] and

I'm going to put all attention. I'm I'mma throw a parade. It's just usually in countries that do that, it'd be like

Kim Jong-un. It's the king. Yeah. It it feels very dict I I get your point and I don't necessarily disagree in the

abstract but in practice we don't do that. The only person who ever does that is like dictator. Yeah. So it just looks and people already saying you look that

way. It looks that way. I get it. I get it. And you ran a campaign on financial prosperity and digging the people out of

a hole and you just $50 million on celebrating yourself. Exactly. Yeah.

That's crazy. Why we closing schools and shutting down the program? [ __ ] getting laid off by the thousands. They

shut down job. They did. They stopped JobCore a couple months ago. Somebody just told me that [ __ ] Yo, while I um

Oh, go ahead. You How many [ __ ] was in JobCore? A lot of [ __ ] They tried to send me there,

but I escaped. Job call. While we're on this uh

political stuff, and I'll just say this really quickly, then we'll get into my favorite part of the show.

If you're into messy messy tea, then Quomo versus Homeboy

is the place to be. He's from a story. What's the name of Mad? Zor I don't know how proni.

Yeah. Yeah. Madam Madami statue. It this this No, he's he's

bugging. Listen, while they do whatever they're doing, I'm home being not into

politics, watching my shows. Then the commercials come on and it's mud

slinging. Homeboy is telling us all the bad stuff that Cuomo did while he was in

Cuomo, my man. He's snitching. It's not really snitching if it was public though. Yeah. Oh, come's a piece of

[ __ ] So, the combo is great. Well, he is. Hold up. Slow down, miss. Okay.

Slow. Why is Why is Quuomo a piece of [ __ ] Um during CO, he allowed people in

nursing homes and prisons to die. Allowed. Yeah. Yeah. No, within in

action is allowing. Yeah. No, he was for that. Mel, can you explain to me how he

allowed? Um I wrote about this in my book. I'm trying to remember the details of it.

Although y'all should that line ain't going to scare me often writing a book on it. No, no, no. I'm tell I'm saying

I'm saying for that I'm saying for the details. I get into the micro details in my book We Still Here. Um but people

shameless plug. Oh shameless shameless pre

shame [ __ ] But um there's a few things. One, there

were opportunities to actually uh provide medical care space and to

evacuate uh particularly the nursing homes. He had no action at all with the nursing homes and along alongside many

Republicans who basically said they're going to die anyway. So, you know, we're going to focus our attention on these

other places inside the prisons. Not just the prisoners, but even the correctional officers also weren't given

masks. They weren't given um what's the other uh what's the other stuff we were trying to been so long now. What do we

need? We need a mask. We hand sanit

all the essential stuff. He completely neglected that. Also, lots of money was That's not true what you're saying though. And people liked him because he

kept everybody, he did a press conference every day about CO. No, no, no. You remember that? Like every day he was great leadership. Let me hold on.

Wait, let me say this. Every day he was keeping the people ab breast on the situation pertaining to while everybody

else were hiding from it and and not giving any details for him to run, right? New Yorkers was loving him during CO. They said he should run for

president. I don't this is my first time hearing with and I got locked up in Rikers during co and them [ __ ] had

[ __ ] in there. You know how many mobile sites he had to set up with ventilators

going through them outside. He was responsible for Jacob Javits turning into what they turned into triage. He

was also responsible for uh finding because the hospitals were uh shortened

they had a shortage. So he was responsible for getting more medical work like so for every non-action you're

saying like he also had an action. Yeah. I didn't say he had no action but these are specifically to Here's another thing I'm pulling up now cuz I had to it's

been 5 years. He uh he required nursing homes to accept COVID 19 positive patients when the hospitals were

overflowing. So you take people who have COVID and you stick them in a nursing home where people are the most likely to

die without remember this is prevaccine this is pre. So now you're basically turning nursing homes into death camps,

right? So let me ask you, I think you we live in a culture. We live in a room decision because again, I'm not But people were saying in the moment this is

going to kill people and the argument was they're going to die anyway. I'm ask also the I'm not saying

I just think that some people sometimes have about the male. May I say what you said male? Sorry. I said there's also

like the 14 women that have levied um you know sexual assault accusations. I just knew that wouldn't be the most

persuasive argument. Then that's the craziest part is that's that's the foot. Wait, wait, don't say that. Now, hold

on, hold up, hold up, [ __ ] What? Don't say that. I'm I'm going to listen to you a little carefully. Yes, it would. If

you would have brought that up, that would we would have listened to that and and I didn't say you want to listen to I said it wouldn't be the most persuasive argument for why it would have. Okay.

So, you find So, I don't think it Yeah, exactly. What I'm saying is if I said don't elect him because he did

something, I think you'd find it more persuasive that he killed a bunch of people than he harassed a bunch of people. No, he didn't kill a bunch of

people. I'm I'm being I'm sorry. I'm being a little And bro, you're the mayor of the most densely populated city in

the world or one of them, right? And immediate this thing jumps on your back.

You don't have all of the answers. So, we would have criticized them if he said, "Yo, the hospitals are overflow.

Let's just [ __ ] with co just sit on the street and die or put them over here, put them over there." Like you you

are you kind of faced with a task that at the spare moment Yeah. It's a lose lose.

And I've never had to deal with anything like this. It's no handbook for these things. So yeah, maybe he did make some mistakes. And I'm not defending them.

I'm just saying maybe he did make some mistakes, but mistakes were be were damn near inevitable to be made because we

never had nothing like this affect the world. I personally have been light on politicians and people in public service in general for COVID responses because

again, it was a a saw before. It was new. We didn't see it before. I I would disagree with the idea that those are only two choices. We could I mean, there

were empty schools. They were empty place. There are lots of places to house people if you're willing to invest in it. But he not only did it, he then lied

about it. He he hid he he under reported the number of nursing home deaths so that he wouldn't be blamed for it by

83%. Mark, everybody during CO under reportported numbers. Funeral home was

under report. Everybody Everybody literally you think that a funeral home reporting it under under reportporting

is the same as a governor who's responsible for an outcome lif. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He lied about it

to the government. They had a whole federal investigation. The entire government of the United States under

reportported numbers across the board. Fouchy, the CDC, all of the [ __ ] reported. I'm just saying

that doesn't make it right, though. I'm not I'm not saying it did. I'm just saying in a crisis such a and I'm not defending him, right? I'm not defending.

I also like dude, which I don't want to mispronounce his name, but I like him. He's been around for a while locally.

He's been running around for a long time. You know what I'm saying? I'm just saying like sometimes the judgment sometimes when people don't have um

information, knowledge, experience in handling certain [ __ ] we we kind of get

doing the best they can. Yeah, but I don't think he was doing the best he could. I think he was did more. This is what I think he was doing. And you can

take it or leave it. And I don't I don't want us to do then I'm going to leave this alone. Trump was was handling this

in a way that people didn't like. Cuomo became the face of the opposition. He was on TV every day saying this is

wrong. I'm the real leader. He was positioning himself a president, which again I had no problem with, right? And I think he made himself the face of it.

And then when [ __ ] started going wrong in his state or his city, he couldn't then take ownership of that because he

was going to lose his credibility. And so he swept his [ __ ] under the rug. And he's not the only one that did it. They're all pieces of [ __ ] Let's remove

I want to remove Cuomo from mine and your conversation. Okay. I have a question for you. Yeah. Do you think

that do you think that you are a bit biased

for the guy whose views I'm not going to call them radical like the commercials are but whose views are Yeah. outside

the box. Do you think that you just have for that gentleman? No. I I I said this

before Cuomo ran. This isn't about the race. I'm not I don't actually have a strong opinion about the race because I haven't studied the race closely enough

to know. So, this isn't like I'm not saying vote for Mandani instead of Cuomo. Got it. I have I have no horse in

that in or no no nickel in that quarter. Um, what I'm saying is is that

independent of that, I have a criticism and issue on Andrew Cuomo. I've been my book came out in 2021 on where I

mentioned him before he was even thinking about running for anything. So, this has nothing to do with that. If he were running, it doesn't matter if

Andrew Cuomo Yeah. That's the other thing I noticed about you. When you got criticisms of people, a book is coming.

No, not at all. Bor is already here. Look, Bor is out. So, I mean, I'd be

okay with that, but I mean, nothing wrong with it. I got a lot of criticisms and I got like eight books, so it it sometimes it's just that they overlap.

Heading on. Got it. Got it. Got it. You look trying to But but but back to just making this a little more light-hearted.

The the the commercials about Duke and how they paying him with the radical. He wants to let the homeless people in the

subways like crazy. No, that's spooky. Fear. I do think that. See, see, see

what I mean about you? Wait, that's spooky Mark. [ __ ] you ain't been on the subway how many years? And I won't

be that part. And I won't be ever, ever, ever. That don't negate it. Part of the

reason that is cuz Harry the homeless is going to be there. Mark, they killing the [ __ ] out of people in the subways

and have been for years. Mark, the incences are very low in percentage. By the way,

the incidences while they exist and they're horrible are extraordinarily low

compared to the amount of people that ride the subway on a daily basis. Hold on. Wait, wait, wait. There was a whole campaign last year about the uprising or

the rise in subway crimes where even when they put police in it, we talked about it on here. What was and and and I

forgot what we they did a whole big presentation on the news like they was adding 20,000 cops to stop the crime

down here. They pulled them out from home. The percentages skyrocketed of

murder and crime cuz maybe they change uh when you talk about crime period now cuz some of these [ __ ] are just

getting stabbed, munched in the face, robbed, but the subway is dangerous.

Y'all can't percentage me out of that. No, the the the last time you've been on subway all the time. It's totally

different arguments in New York at least once twice a month. Some of the people committing crimes on the subways are not

homeless people. That's what I'm saying. People committing crimes are just [ __ ] looking for jokes and I got these You

see Joe, you look sweet. You going you going testing. If I saw you if I see you right now, but you wouldn't see me,

but that's not a concern. But again, you talk about a lot of people that have and when they say homelessish cuz I agree

with you, they're using that as synonymous with mental health crisis people or violent criminals or violent

but that's how we do the fearongering [ __ ] That's how we do this [ __ ] with immigration where every person that's getting picked up by ICE ain't a from

Venezuela or a [ __ ] that committed a crime. Yeah. We also sat up here like to your point earlier and

condemned migrants and immigrants for a year and a half which was stupid cuz now we're in a situation where innocent

people citizens of the United States are getting exported because they're not white. But even that buting

fear but selling fear but that doesn't negate the fact that certain areas of our city were being crimeridden or

whatever not crimer ridden had a lot of crime due to some of the migrants being there. It changed it changed the

landscape of the city. So and I think when we be saying yo some of this is

happening people are taking that as yeah but all it's not all but when you sell

the other side saying they selling they selling a product. I don't agree with that part. You're selling a product. You

know what we can I don't even want to take the train with homeless people. I'm not taking the train. But homeless people want to take the train with

homeless people. Cool. They still I thought they removed all the homeless people out the train station. They still down there. I mean you can't get them

all every single day. You can't stop them from going down. You know, homeless different especially not if all the all the vacant hotels is filled with the

migrants. You don't want to answer that. I know.

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bunch of WNBA picks. Uh, I know Caitlin Clark returned and played the Liberty

the other night and the Liberty's first loss of the season. That game was unbelievable. Uh, we happen to have

someone there to have a mic in front of AI Caitlyn. So, let's hear what AI

Caitlyn had to say after the game. for if it wasn't for me, all these WNBA players would be working at Chili's

talking about it half price for today only. I had to come back and save this terrible league before their games were

moved to TBTV. They were two weeks away from playing these games in someone's driveway before I got to the league. The

players had to sleep in a U-Haul. Now they're in Motel Sixes. So, now they're in Motel Six. Angel Ree said she models

her game after Michael Jordan, but she plays more like a drunk uh Thenis anti

Angel Reese. That's why on a game for like a can of

Spaghetti O while I was gone. Nobody watches to see her shoot 22% and miss 17

layups. If it wasn't for me, Angel would be playing at a Lifetime Fitness and getting worked by a fifth grade boy.

It's crazy that I scored more points today than Angel has in her entire career. All right. That was AI. AI Kaitlin Clark

feisty. Meaning she didn't really say it, y'all. Yes. That's not That's not real. Yeah. Has she seen that? Probably.

She might have saw that [ __ ] and like back. Glad you did it. I mean, she might be

DMing them. I mean I mean or she would have said I was just playing a character every time I was in front of a

microphone. That was okay. Okay. Hey, stop doing

that. Yo, what? Stop doing that. Stop doing that because why we we I play a character when the microphone come on.

So, I got to understand Mel doing it. I know. And these [ __ ] say chicken nuggets every time you do it. So, if you're going to play a character, you

got to get what come with the character. I agree with that. I don't like the chicken nugget thing cuz I don't like it either, but it's funny. I don't like

this. I don't like that. I feel like it's disrespectful. But you know what? The only person that to defend my character outside of here is is is

Lightbrite, [ __ ] None of you [ __ ] y'all make it seem like that's me. Lightbrite and Cory's the only two. Nah.

Get out of here. Both of y'all [ __ ] Nah, no you do. Now you on social media talking to people how cool you are, how talented you are. I even say you smart.

I even say you know you actually told me that me and Malcolm can have a one-on-one conversation and he he's the

only one I could talk to. I mean I have to be honest. You know what I'm saying? Anyway, the which

what? No, go ahead. Go ahead. This your problem freezing. I see which Malcolm not action [ __ ] You talking about baby

Malcolm and I see your wrist brand changing again. You doing that [ __ ] again, huh? What am I doing? Yeah. Yeah, we watching you freezy. I'm looking for

this damn Here it is. Got it. Y the the masses need us. They need us to discuss

this. Okay.

So, one more time. We got 3 minutes and 10 seconds of brand

new clips. This record is called So Be It. My bad. Huh? My bad. For real, right?

Yeah. My bad. Yeah. Let's stop this for a minute. Yeah, that's my bad. This beat

is incredible. It is. As was uh the last one. Yeah. Mhm. The last one was crazy,

too. Yeah. I ain't apologizing for real yet. You need a couple more. I'm just saying anybody could not anybody. I

mean, I told stupid careful. All right. All right. So, you were hoarding your best beats for your favorite rapper for

your people's Virginia zone. I get that. I don't think it was that. It ain't

necessarily hoarding. It's when I get with them, the magic come like that. That That's They bring this out of me.

Yeah. Yeah. It could be that. It could be that. It ain't got to be He ain't had to have them shits in the talk. All

right. Still. All right. So, you baking from scratch for your people and they're bringing this out of you. Yeah. Mhm.

This is crazy. as as a rapper who could rap like hearing this. Come on in the

studio. Everybody clear out and just give me an hour, 90 minutes. Give me some time to live with this. This will be done. We laying this tonight. Hey, I

don't have to take this one home with me. We're laying this tonight. Oh my lord.

Thought so far? Fire. Thought so far. Talk luxury rap. Fire. Luxury rap over

like late 90s, early 2000s. Exactly what I was thinking. Like the the Middle Eastern Indian saying whatever that is.

Yeah. Fire. You can say it. Nobody Nobody is saying nothing bad to you today. But you're from Virginia. You

don't like it is But you from Virginia. You think it's average? It's all right. What's all right about it real quick? Is it So you don't like It's all right. But

it's fire. Hold on, man. I'm just on you again, [ __ ] We just asking for

the clarification. Y'all stop jumping mail. You [ __ ] You just got back, [ __ ] Watch your mouth. Yeah. And and I'm I'm happy to be here. Don't stop

jumping my man. Yo, you good? Yeah, [ __ ] It's all right, Jim. He said the lyrics is not that good. Jim, he likes the beat and the lyrics is just all

right. Is that what you're saying? Yeah, I disagree, but I think it's fire, bro. I think As I just want to know when when

is the your next trip to Virginia? Uh, you might want to wait a minute this week. Yeah, look at looking at probably

a different part this week. What's that first town right at the tip? Like as soon as you get out West Virginia

depending on where you going. No, when you pass DC, what's that first town you hit? R, right? Which way? Alexandria.

Alexandria. You probably going there. I'm not going.

Here we go. I'm about to play it. This why I couldn't get no beasts like this. I'd have been in this session begging

For real to come talk on this. Yo, please on the intro, the on the outro.

Please talk anywhere on this skateboard pee. Yo, it's criminal how nice Malice is off

of this hiatus. Yo, he's killing this [ __ ] He shouldn't be able to do that off of this hiatus like that. It ain't

been a hiatus. I'm The masses might not have been listening. He has been still

popping up and rapping. The masses was listening. All right. So, for you to keep calling it a hiatus like he just

popped back out last week is false. He popped back out where people could see him. But he still been rapping this Ice

Point. And the record I got it. And the tree that falls in the forest, nobody heard it. That's your fault. Listen to

the trees. Change your mind is no killing. There we

go. Where's the disc? Third verse. Third verse. Well, this is the third verse. No, this

is the second verse. Just second. The next verse. Oh, we changed the beat.

Oh, great. Oh, yes. Oh, yeah. I clear out.

Okay. Nope. Nope. Nope. We got action. Yeah. Yeah, we got

action. I like this [ __ ] that push is on where he's just saying [ __ ] like where he just

talking like for real. You know, captain said, "I hate all of y'all." Right. Like I'm going to let y'all know I hate all

of you. And he said the word that I don't say, but I know that song Claus is popping.

Little M. Talking about Kyrie, it's a play on double antandra. That guy's good. She,

you know, she had the lip gloss that was talking about Kylie. Once she got the lip gloss, she made six, she sold half

of it for 600 mill. She got away from Travis. Get out of town.

That was the only clue. [Music] Damn.

Don't say that to me, man. Do you get it? Yeah. Yeah. But he can't

do that. A couple of bars earlier he said, "If I had her and you had her, she never met her." He just said that eight

bars ago. I don't think he's talking about her though as far as he had her. Malice. No, I think he's No, the person I think that line was just some fly

Yeah. rapper [ __ ] Yeah. But now at the end, if you're talking about But that was Malice in this push. Yeah. Oh, they

brothers. Hilarious. What video he got? Who knows? Who knows,

[ __ ] Yo, rappers be recording [ __ ] yo. And holding it. I can share an AE

it. Yo, you know what? I do want to shout out like some of the MC's real quick.

I know actually today I don't know who's MC and who not. I don't know [ __ ]

Lil Yada Yang and all of the I don't know who's rapping now. But in this era

that these [ __ ] is from, let me tell you how sticky it got. [ __ ] was even

particular about meeting rappers. And if you did, you did so knowing that the

beef could happen one day. So you just moved accordingly from the introduction, from day one. Yeah. So all of this, you

got a video of me, you cried in front of me, [ __ ] You was in that session on

your knees back and forth. all of that that wouldn't have been able to happen.

That's the problem though. A lot of these [ __ ] just be too buddy buddy up front. I don't really know you [ __ ] like that. And too many cameras down

there. Not just that. They don't even be friends enough to even open up like that, bro. It ain't it ain't about the

camera [ __ ] cuz [ __ ] are still go tell your business even if they didn't have a video. True. That's just not your man's

but you running around wanting to be everybody mans. All [ __ ] back then came from a lot of them, not all of

them, but a lot of them came from some street influence. And so when you met a [ __ ] and you was from the street, you

carried it accordingly. Nowadays, these [ __ ] be school kids. So you get around

a [ __ ] and you just on your goofy time and you not knowing that this could come back to bite you in the ass later. And with the year that Kendrick

had like parading that body around that he caught all around the world, I knew

Push was sitting home thinking of which one of you [ __ ] was going to get it.

Push wasn't just about to come out rapping with his brother over some beats and the [ __ ] Wheel of Fortune just

happened to land on Travis Scott. Not the Wheel of Fort. Yeah, that's the [ __ ] The SP that just happened to land on Travis Scott. There's no hard

feelings. There's no hard feeling. I would have fired a Travis Scott, too. It is hard feelings, though. Like he he's

addressed it. He's standing up for Ferrero. Again, I don't And push his

words. Did an interview with GQ. It's from that interview before that we talked about, but they didn't put it in

there because the record wasn't out basically. And he addressed it. He's like, you know, Travis came to the to

the um to Paris to Farel studio at Louis Vuitton,

interrupted a clip session cuz that's where they recorded most of their album at. Forel, that's why this [ __ ] sound

like this too. You [ __ ] was recording Louis Vuitton in Paris. Luxury. Nice.

So you interrupt the [ __ ] You see uh Push and Malice there. You're all excited to see everybody there. You I

want to play my album. I want to play my album. Push goes on to say he's he jumping around doing this [ __ ] monkey

dance. His words. And um it was like we weren't feeling the music and you played

everything. You played the meltdown record but did not play Drake's verse. And then it comes out. Yeah. Yeah. Now

it comes out and Drake is kind of shooting at for real. So you did all of this knowing this like Yeah. you that you you looked at a certain way. And he

referenced him playing the like that record. He Yeah. He said Travis don't really pick. He just jump around with

whoever hot and do this goofy [ __ ] So yeah, [ __ ] you got to catch one on

behalf of my man. Forel ain't going to do it. Why did all of that just sound like Forel's fault to me?

How? How so? Yeah. For letting them play it. Travis can't play nothing in no Louis Vuitton [ __ ] Paris studio

without Forel stopping this session and saying all right yo let him put his CD

in like let's see what he got going on. I think he said that forel had some had a beat on that record which I we know he

did because some of them Travis songs that came out Forel produced. Yeah. So I think that was like I know they got a

relationship. That was the impetus I'm sure. All right. So look you got Forel's being nice. You know my man come over here.

But we got a relationship. We got a relationship, but you let another [ __ ] jump on your

[ __ ] and diss me, but we got a relationship. And you don't play me the record. No,

but [ __ ] that. We have a relationship. Is there a world? Is there a world where Travis didn't have the Drake verse?

That's possible. Yeah. But if me and you got a relationship, don't put that [ __ ] on your [ __ ] I might call you. If I got

a real relationship with you, call and he did that. Yo, I might say something.

fam. If I have a real relationship with you, I'm not letting nobody do that.

Y'all keep add y'all keep putting real relationships and industry relationships. True. I don't believe

Travis Scott to be none of these [ __ ] friends. All right. That's what Push is saying. So now Push is drawing the line.

Don't come around me with that goofy [ __ ] [ __ ] If you knew a nigga's dissing my man and you in here getting

beats from my man, you in here playing your [ __ ] for my man in Paris and you know you going to let another [ __ ] jump

on your [ __ ] and diss him. Get the [ __ ] away from me. And you're using us being studio together as potentially content

to release like the [ __ ] out of here, man. With with these dudes.

Hey, I agree with everything that y'all are saying. I'm starting there. So whatever conversation we have is not a

debate. It's not an argument. Got it. Push just went through this with Kanye.

He just went through this where Kanye is chummy chummy playing nice with

[ __ ] inviting them over. They shooting yada yada yada.

If I'm the clips, I'm saying to Forel, if there's one person that I don't want

in my session, it's Travis Scott or any Drake friend. Cool. But what if we in

the session already? A [ __ ] came in. Yeah. Yeah. Like like it ain't like this was scheduled. Yo, pull up at 3:00. He

might have hit him. Yo, can I fly through right now? Sorry. Sorry. I'm not saying that that the clips had that pull

cuz Forel is forel. So, I'm not saying that. But when you read the GQ [ __ ] you said Travis came in there and said, "What?

It's a lot. It's crowded in here." All y'all here like he was excited. Like, oh [ __ ] Oh, y'all like the whole I don't

take I don't take that like that. I don't take Oh, all y'all here to mean

Travis Scott is excited. That's not what that means to me. So, how you take it? Yeah, I know how you It's a lot of

people here. It's a lot of people in my session as I'm about to play my album for somebody. There's a lot going on.

It's not your session. Cuz yeah, this was you bombarded my We have a scheduled session. We recording. You're not here

to record. I'm here to play my album. You came in here and we're doing you a favor. You're not You aren't doing

anything for me. The [ __ ] that I'm being phony to for real. Invited me here

to play my album. So you already invited me here at the first. Yo, it's a lot going on in here. Them [ __ ] would have

been kick Travis Scott would have had to Travis Scott his ass the [ __ ] out my session. It depends on what I'm saying. He didn't say he interrupted the

session. Yeah. You saying that like there's a lot going on in here with the negative connotation. He might have been, "Oh, damn. Everybody in here." And

they said he was jumping around like a monkey. He says, "Oh, man. Everyone's here. He's smiling. He's laughing. He's jumping around doing his I'm not going

to say it." It's a lie. I'm telling you, but in the manner that you saying it. You saying it in Joe Button terms. We

weren't into the music, but he wanted to play it. Wanted to film us and listening to it. See, listen to me. I'm telling

y'all that rappers do [ __ ] Rappers do this type of machismo braggadocious comp

competitive. Nobody asked for competition. But if I have to play my songs in your session and it's rappers

here, there's something happening. There is something going on in in the air now.

I got to get with the rappers. Rappers. Rappers out there. Y'all know what time it is. Y'all know what time it is.

There's an added pressure to playing your music. Mhm. You're watching the faces and the mannerisms of people,

especially if it's people that you respect in there. You might be asking for help with a a single or hey, what

should I pick? It's a vibe. Wait, stop. We just cut this hard ass clip [ __ ] off

in here on the bigs to insert somebody else on the bigs. We talk about ego all the time. Ego and some other [ __ ] is in

the air in this session. I'm getting that just from a GQ interview. Go ahead. Okay. You're speaking as the rapper that

I want to I want to you have that competitive nature where I want to the pressure of I I rap I want to rap better

than y'all etc. Travis don't do that. Yes he does. He does not try to out wrap nobody. Travis is friends with [ __ ]

that do funny [ __ ] That don't mean he do. I'm talking about he as soon as he

left he does it. Let me let me ask you this, right? You you missing what I'm saying? I'm getting Travis the [ __ ] out of here. Y'all be y'all be friendly with

that [ __ ] He would not be allow a pinky toe with your ass. He intentionally didn't play the Drake part. That's being funny. Yes. Yes. I

I'm not going to play the Drake part of him dissing you in front of you. And that's the that's the [ __ ] up. That's

the funny [ __ ] If you if I got a relationship with you. Okay, guys. I think that Pusher identified Travis Scott as a op prior to that day, right?

Because because of his because of his history with Drake. For sure. Yeah. He said he said that the the same thing

happened on sicko mode where he was dissing Yay and that's when he so about he's like he has a track record of this

basically has been through this exact scenario. I'm just shocked. I'm shocked

by what that he let him in the session. Yeah. Yeah. You wouldn't let He didn't let him in the session. Forel let him in the session. Well, Farel is closer to

Push a T is to Travis Scott. That would have been one tap on the shoulder. Yo, can I talk to you in the in the lounge?

Can I speak to you in the lobby? I mean, not the lobby. the [ __ ] the side any one of these side rooms. Come in the Come over here in the corner, [ __ ] Get

the cigarette. He would have to know how I feel. To me, it's the equivalent of what's that streamer [ __ ] when Lil TJ

was there and then he had to explain, "Hey, I'm acting like this cuz then he you got a [ __ ] there that's cool with

somebody that shot me." It is the exact same scenario in in in music form. But

anyway, what thoughts? Records are records.

records are. Everything I've heard is this album is shaping up to be it. And

Travis got you lucky cuz if you did all of that [ __ ] after you left, you'd have got a lot more than this eight bars in

the end of this record on this hard ass beat. The remix might have been in your honor.

So be so be it. No, now I'm now Chase. You want to play games? Hey, I'm I get

hilarious. Push cute. Eight bars on the end. Oh

yeah. Yeah. Some lightning. What you see? Travis Scott who can't rap a lick. That would have been that would have

been push taking his child to the playground to the monkey bars in the swing. You want the icy? Oh [ __ ] Look,

they got the coconut icy. That would have been a sunny day. Just little pow pow just to let you know. I see you.

That's it. That's all it is. That's it. Yo, I see you. I know what you are. Stay over there. He would have been a piñata.

That's a warning. That's a Don't say [ __ ] else. My next gender reveal. The next gender reveal would have been a

Travis Scott pinata from the and give come on bat. Let's bat this [ __ ] to

hell. The nerve of Travis Scott playing those type of games. So what does Travis Scott do now? Nothing. But same thing he

kept he been doing. That's what I assume. I'm just making sure. You know what I mean? Travis Scott is so much bigger than hip hop right now. He don't

give a [ __ ] about this. I was going to say that too. I was going to say that. I don't think Travis was looking at them like you said it with like if you in

there with [ __ ] that go rapw wise. I don't think he looks at himself in the compet competitive.

That's what I was trying to say. He's not his battle. I don't think he's looking at them [ __ ] even like they a

factor in what I'm doing out here. I don't have to compete with them lyrically. I ain't a spitter. Well, I never said

that. You did. You said when rap ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra rappers be in there, you we might need to help with pressure and all that pressure all

without that's that's y'all fans that segment that segment the rap categories.

I wasn't trying to say that Travis should look for some type of reverence from them because of their lyrical capability. I'm not saying that there is

a pressure when a rapper, no matter what you do, if Lil Uzi walks in a slaughter

house session, fire better be played. Yeah, it don't matter that you are what

whoever you are and you're the number one rapper in the world. And in the studio, in the studio, we ain't really

focused on you being the number one rapper in the world cuz a lot of times y'all in here without all your cosmetics.

You could go do that [ __ ] on tour. You in here in some [ __ ] Crocs and sweats

with crust in your [ __ ] eye and a ugly bum. Your Wednesday night bum [ __ ] You [ __ ] You're not wrong. You

don't look the greatest right now. He He's not wrong cuz in studio in studio etiquette, studio environment, it don't

matter what you It could be a rock band walking in there. You playing fire or you not? Yeah. You get the score and take it from you. I think I think Travis

playing that. The fire to him the pressure to him was for real. Mhm.

Not them. Oh, no. They're they're included. That's where they're

final. No disrespect to nobody. Travis might have been looking at them [ __ ] like, "Y'all ain't nobody for me to

impress." No disrespect to nobody, but I've spent my entire life in career in studios and I the guitar player dude in

the back when he comes and plays his [ __ ] for whoever MC wants to play heat and see how they react. They might not

know them from a can of paint. I want to see how they and the other side of that is if they're not nobody's too. And the

other side of that is if I've seen Gohead if I'm pushing and I'm already like you said I may have already

identified you as a op you play is fire. Yeah. Nothing you could play is going to I'm not feeling the music because he

said I'm not feeling I wasn't feeling the music. That's not true. I can I will sit there and be That's not true. I'm

not getting your opinions off but that's that's not true. That's not reality of studio life. Y'all like Travis album. Uh

I liked it at first. It it grew off of me very quickly. It didn't last long. Yeah. But it was fire at first.

It didn't last long. So he think he playing his fire. Mhm. That album was good on first listen to

trained ears. It was opposite to me. I didn't like it at first, then I started to like it and now I completely forgot

it. And when I go to Travis, I don't even touch that album. I go back to Birds and Astro World. And the studio is

where I see [ __ ] like Travis come and steal from [ __ ] like the clips.

That could be true. All that superstardom cash [ __ ] y'all talking about, I don't know nothing about all

that. I'm just talking. I've seen the biggest I've seen big time producers come in the studio and get their head

cracked from this little [ __ ] from wherever you from, Staten Island.

Yo, studio life is different. It is different. It's not what this internet [ __ ] There's no correlation to internet

opinions and what it's actually like being a musician, artist, producer, engineer in a studio. I put it to you like this. And Ice, you've been in some

studios. Of course, a rapper opening your studio door is going to turn the

heads of the [ __ ] Yeah. Yeah. Fact. That's the [ __ ] It's dead quiet there. There's no lights or stimulation. Who's

walking? I have the whole 40 projects in the lounge smoking weed. I got all my

[ __ ] over and the slightest crack of the door from an unfamiliar face. I don't care if you famous. You can shy in

the studio. And and and one other part, Joe, cuz you said you in there without all your cosmetics.

I'm coming in here to record. So, I got all my cosmetics. I think he walked in there. I think he

might have walked in there with He walked in there with jewelry on. He walked in there looking like Travis. I'm

in Paris. I got a camera. I'm making contact at the Louis Vuitton. Yes. I came in

there looking in his face in them Louis trunks, man. What? All right. You

stupid. Hey. Yeah, you know what? I ain't been in a studio session in a while. Maybe things have changed. I'm

still in studio session. Things have not changed. You was just there yesterday. Things ain't changed. They not changed.

It's a It's a It's a low-key competitive environment and it's an environment where you learn I got to step my [ __ ] up

or damn, he's doing some other [ __ ] I can't come. Hey, Trey right there. He Hey, he he a rapper and he ain't famous.

If somebody walk in that studio and try to play something, there's going to be something going on. What? You ain't even

got to be nobody. Yeah. Anyway,

I ain't felt like that in a while. Just start rapping. Go ahead, Bush. I get

excited about [ __ ] like that. [ __ ] Travis, he wouldn't have came. No, no,

it wouldn't have worked that way. That would have never happened. And as soon as he left that, Peter got by. I would

have fired at him for the next for the next year. And if he had a number one record, that

would have just helped. I bet you would have fired at that [ __ ] for sure just for walking in. I don't think

this push last time. That's what I was getting at. That's always funny, too. When someone comes in and don't play

some heat or do some violating [ __ ] like the you said push would have pull them to the side. It don't even have to be

that sometimes. It just be like, look, all right, I got all right. Yeah, good look. Y for sure. All right, bet.

Say less. Y'all rappers, y'all be bringing the mid joints, y'all [ __ ] to the sessions.

Let's talk about it for a second. We going to talk some more music [ __ ] They don't just bring them to the sessions.

They bring them outside. They bring them when they come up, bro. Oh [ __ ] That [ __ ] might that [ __ ] might have had to

fire with him in Paris going to see for real. Maybe or you would think because

you keep dressing it up with Paris and the There's a lot of men.

I got to remember that part. I control the [ __ ] So I can say nah, it's got her in it. Don't put that on. But I'm just

saying I'm coming in here to impress. I got to look a certain I'm coming to impress for real. Bro, I put a lot of

mid on Travis jacket. Sorry. Could be.

Sorry. Maybe it's wrong. I'm not I ain't saying I ain't saying it ain't some work on it. Don't get me wrong. It's a mid on

it though. It's a mid on there. Listen, it ain't your fault rappers. It's the rappers from my days fault because

we was bringing the bad [ __ ] to the studio and they would sit there and listen to the same beat for 37 hours and

they would realize there ain't nothing going on here. They just stopped. So by the time y'all

was like, "Yo, come with me to the stew." No. The bad [ __ ] was like, "Nigga, no. Are you crazy? I was in

there when Nelly and them was in there. I ain't watching you record days when Nelly and was in there." Then you [ __ ]

can't even record right in the booth. Y'all don't put in a show for the [ __ ] in the studio. Behind the glass.

Behind the glass. Hey, they don't know nothing about Oh, you came too late.

Anyway, uh yeah, man. That's a funny combo. You definitely can't play your

album in my studio session and you got [ __ ] with you. I'm telling you something. I'm tell

telling you something. Whatever, man. Whatever, honey. Yo, we can move on. What else we got music? What else we got

in music? Um, it looks like I don't know if he's heard the

criticisms or some some [ __ ] cleared late, but it looks like Wayne is has been making additions to Carter 6. Um,

first they did the remix for Band from Inno, which does not includes Nicki Minaj. Well, features Nick Dicki Minaj,

excuse me. It does not include him reciting Nory's verse from Band from TV.

Thank God. And also, there's another record that was added to the album that also that features Future and Little

Baby. That [ __ ] sounded all right. And that one Yeah. Yeah. That sound it it sounds pretty good. Yeah. So, I don't

know if it's if it's late clearances. Um, it's the album has been updated

twice and it just says bonus. So, it's not a deluxe. I don't know what they doing, but hey, if he got better music

to add, they just gonna start taking [ __ ] Yeah. Real time adjustments. We we we at the

point where you can do it. I'm not mad at it. Omaha. So, I'm happy to hear

that. At least um his his daughter addressed people. See, that's the thing, too. I'm sorry.

No, go ahead. Go ahead. I'm I'm still harping on this. We only looking at this one way because we know the clips. We've

heard some of these songs, so we know heat was coming out them bigs. Mhm. What if you wasn't sitting on heat?

And you didn't know like Wayne whoever. But like Wayne album came out, he probably thought he was sitting on some

heat. Mhm. So he in there on the bigs with that [ __ ] on and then Travis or

somebody coming. Hey, let me put this on. Excuse me. Not even you. I'm playing

this for for your for the producing award. It's dope. But uh This isn't some of the most fire [ __ ] you ever heard

come blaring out of your bigs. Now you know that your [ __ ] is me. You just

[ __ ] up the rest of the session. You [ __ ] up the rest of the album, [ __ ] But that's good. Now I need I know I need writers block. Now I got writer's

block. Back to the drawing board. Yeah, exactly. Maybe that might have saved you. Boy, I'm in hour 19 of my session

and I thought I just thought came up with the hook. Well, thank God. Thank you. Thank God. I let him in here to

show you that that wasn't it. Some of you [ __ ] need that. You get the hook and that's right. In my head, I wish

that every human that enjoyed music was able to just try to record a song one

time. Be a part of the creation. Just one time try to record something that somebody in your friend group may like

and listen to without you being there. I think that's just a a practice that should happen. I swear I do.

Yeah, I could. Even the bad songs was tough to come up with. Yeah.

Anyway, that's that's the luxury of just being a consumer and a fan. Like you don't see that side. I have to deal with

that side. Some of them bad songs took a week. Some of them shits took the whole

session. Put a whole lot into it and and then they come out and these [ __ ] just get this [ __ ] the [ __ ] out of here. You

never I heard the real artists, you know, they're just getting knocked that [ __ ] out. That [ __ ] hurts, man. I ain't going to lie. I'm getting [ __ ]

triggered all over. Yeah, we don't we don't see that side of it. Who else we got? Who else we got? What happens to

people? ESTG. Yes. Yes. Yes. ESTG dropped an album. Um I'm going to get

the name. Get the name. Get the name. Give him his props for this album. Give ESTG. Absolutely. It's called My World.

He might be back with this one. Is he back? No, he's back. He might be back with No, no, there's no mic. He's back. He's back. ESTG is back with this one.

Um 14 tracks. it. Um, I played a sleeper a couple weeks ago on the album, couple

pods ago, I should say. I did not know he was dropping. Um, it popped up. First

thing I saw was the way the songs were listed. This [ __ ] is hilarious. This is some real engineer [ __ ] Producer. Yeah,

that's circulating. This was like the folder that is sent with I was like, "What the fuck?" So, I sent the text

over to somebody like, "Yo, dog, y'all know y'all uploaded this this way?" I was like, "Yeah,

that's fly." Kind of sort of. So, when the album first dropped, excuse me, I tweeted out, "Who the [ __ ] uploaded this

album?" But then I saw fans saying, "I ain't going to lie, this [ __ ] kind of fly, though. It take me back to the

Limewire days. It take me back to the mixtape. It looks like I ripped it off of a" And I'm like, "Yeah, kind of." Oh [ __ ] it's working on people. I ain't

care about that. I wanted to hear the album. He's back. Him forever rolling. He got

with the right producers. He's not doing the sing songy [ __ ] that he tried to You

can You can see when somebody tries to advance their sound or try to get out of the box that they were put in. He went

back into the box that works. Yeah. And I I I said it. This album is made for

all of us who hated the last projects. Like this is solely for us. The rest of

y'all y'all ain't got to like it. The boss of all bosses, the hustle music, like like it it's it's

[ __ ] on here. If you're a ESTG fan, you will be pleased with this album. The

older you get, you forget how to read, right? Where the [ __ ] is boss all bosses? See, I had to figure titles

ain't titles [ __ ] spell it different. No, it's rough 319. Yeah, it looks crazy.

And I think that [ __ ] is super dope and creative, but I've had that issue with underground rappers in general. Like part of the reason why people don't know

your songs and they'll say someone fill in the blank artist. Yeah, but name a song. It's because you called the song

Purple Shoe Laces and the chorus is We all peoples or something. You know, it's like a super catchy chorus. The title is

right there. But you call this some super abstract [ __ ] No, I don't even know how to find. It don't even be abstract. What a lot of them do is when

they get the beat from cuz the producer will title. Yeah. Producers use they'll send that over there and then they just

keep that as the title and made their own song to it or they just find one little punch line that was funny in verse two and make that the song title.

So that's not good for branding. But yeah, anyway, um shout outs to EST. Um

he got, like I said, he has a tour coming up, too. We back. Okay, we back.

You going to tour? Oh, for sure. You bring your girl? No, that's not her. She ain't an ESC fan.

Yeah, I didn't think so. I didn't think you were. Some concerts for the ladies.

That's a fact. That's a fact. There's something You can stay home, baby. I got home. Stay on home. You're not going to have the most fun here at all. Not to

get in my parks bag, but I am really excited about the new Ghost Face project. Oh yeah, me too. Me too. Even

though I don't like when [ __ ] take the classic and I had I hate that. But I don't think the Ghost Face is going to

[ __ ] that up. It's just too much pressure though. The [ __ ] he put out last year was fire. So yeah, I I would look forward to this. It was Yeah. Don't

number two or number three. Leave the classic the classic. Like it just add it just adds pressure unnecessarily. It's

especially where when it's like 20 years later and you're working with a whole different set of people like you're setting yourself up in a you can't

position. Yeah. It's not going to sound nothing like that. You don't sound the same. Your producers are all moved on to different [ __ ] It's a dangerous game.

But I'm always looking forward to not to jump back, but that's part of the problem with Wayne outside of the music

being what it is. You should stop calling these Carters. Yeah. Calling these Carters adds pressure to it. It's

a bar you got to meet. If this was I am not a human being three, it ain't going

to be judged as bad. He did 110 first week with zero promo outside of me

announcing it and like bad promo after the first day. Yeah, right. Um did y'all

see I think that this uh new two chains and Neo is kind of hard

too. This [ __ ] is definitely hard. It keeps saying from the short film Red Clay. I'm not familiar. I think Chains

is like the music supervisor or whatever. He's He's doing all the music for this movie. Oh boy. Is it out yet? I

don't know. I don't know. I don't I don't know much about casting. Shut the

[ __ ] up. All the songs that have been that he's done from this Red Clay [ __ ]

James is [ __ ] fired, bro. That sle getting work today. Not work today. That

s's getting work. That's the same sample as M. Leon Thomas.

Yeah. Super hot. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Oh [ __ ] Oops. Two Chains.

Two Chains ain't letting nobody come in the studio play no song. Red Clay is a short film uh EPD by I'm

sorry. Well, we asked the [ __ ] question. It EPD and co-written by Two Chains uh with Omar Eps and it debuted

at the Atlanta Film Festival earlier this year. Friend of the show, Omar. Happy Father's Day to Omar EPS, man. We

love you, bro. perks. Um, I don't have anything else in music that is that we

need to get to. That's so dope to me. The sample for like play that [ __ ] again for a second. I got you. Uh, like to get

these two songs. You get this. No, let that play for a little bit. Let that play for a little bit. Now we in our

music bag real quick. Completely different records. Look at Hayden. You got the Travis though. Completely different pills. You got the Travis on.

Don't stop playing with them. Leon Thomas is having an incredible incredible

few years actually. I love this. Shout out to him, man. Yeah, man. Oh, man. What's up? You know,

I wanted to tell y'all. Oh, good. What happened? You know, Flip Flip been quiet

for about two hours. You think so? Well, on a music show. Yeah. Um,

you had lent me something, right? And um you have asked me, you know, you asked me where it was at. So I said, "Do

you need it?" And then we had a conversation how you said, "No, take your time. I'm good." And I had a conversation with you how sometimes when

you tell somebody take their time, the time that they take is extremely long. It goes from like, you know, cuz take

when I say take your time, [ __ ] I'm talking about, you know, get you get the next week, 7 days, 14 days, you know,

the max. Not a year or two years. It's like no rush. Yeah. Don't Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes take your time. Take your time

cuz I can hear the tone in your voice like, "Yo, you know, like when you start with the you know, I know you want some [ __ ] You're not worried to take

your time. I'm just trying to be, you know, empathetic." Are we talking about money? Anything? No. No. No money. Well,

oh, hello, girl. You're in my business. No money. You're sorry. I'm just I'm all right now, man. I'm Look at me. I'm

pretty good, gang. No, you're all right now. I'm good. He all right now. His little handcuff trick worked.

That [ __ ] was fine. Little little [ __ ] This [ __ ] just keep finding little weird [ __ ] tricks that work.

Good luck, too. I'm proud of you. Thank you. Thank you. I mean, you know, but I broke one of my rules again for you

because I love you. Like, I don't even lend [ __ ] nothing. I use Yes. If I use it, I don't lend it out. Listen, I went

Some days it's over, [ __ ] I went to the airport that [ __ ] Tell them though. Tell them. Tell them what it is. So, so

everybody can have some fun. Elbow bag. It's the elbow bag. So I'll tell [ __ ]

had two lighters in there on each side. So they scared me. I'm like he had two

lighters. He had the cream two cream stuff there. You ain't like [ __ ] I don't I thought he would go through his

bag before giving it to me. [ __ ] I'm looking at the [ __ ] like pull this [ __ ] over real quick. Let me get this back.

M. Hold up. Say yo pop. What happened? You lucky it was just the lighter. I was about to say I was going to jam you up

intentionally. You didn't look in the bag for room. No, I I trust No, I didn't. Wait, hold on. Wait. You You

don't think I bust my [Music] Wait, so am I supposed to look in the bag? Yes, that was crazy. Yeah,

absolutely. No, just in case he left something behind, which he did. True. It was It was last minute. I came the day

of my flight. I came here. I need the bag. He gave it to me. Guess See, I guess I should have looked through the bag. But when they put I always looked

through a bag for How the [ __ ] you got so much lighter than one [ __ ] [ __ ] What the [ __ ] was that about? Man, that [ __ ] was placed nice. Talking about the

baby oil. No, it was No, it was cream. He had he had that strawberry lip balm and that cream. The [ __ ] said he

travels around with the uh He was I don't think he made you jerk off standing up, [ __ ] Don't talk to me. I

did too, [ __ ] We do, [ __ ] They give you It give you some euphoric feeling. You You get airheaded.

You Let's just shoot out. Oh my god. Sorry, Paul. pardon the show. Pride

month that was graphic. Is it pride month? It's still pride month. How many months do the parade is on the 29th? But

how many months do they get sitting back with you over here? All right. I've been lied to a few other

months then. They just say that. I be like rock on. I'm with you. I support.

They just say that [ __ ] Yo, June got somewhere to be too by the way. June

June is getting the [ __ ] out of here. He's going for peep that. They just did the halfway month poll for pot of the month. Did you see that? I was like, I

couldn't believe it was already middle of the month. No, we didn't see that, man. Tell us about

tell us. Take us. Let us know. Yeah. Did you see everything? I think it's in the lead. Of course he is, [ __ ] You see

the shirt? Huh? We opened by Uncle Bobby's, [ __ ] Yeah. Come on, man. [ __ ]

that [ __ ] We not I'm down with you, [ __ ] We back. I was I was against you real quick, but I'm back. [ __ ] you talking trying to be cool with us behind

the scenes. [ __ ] we we not with you, [ __ ] Yeah, y'all be falling for the Mark lineup. Yo, he he throw something

out there. Sit back and watch how you feeling about it. Just a gas. I thought he good at that. I fall for I ain't

taking his word for who in the lead and who ain't. I wait till I see it. Well, the leader I mean the leader of the top joint. See? Yeah. No, there's no trick.

I'm just saying cuz they break it up cuz there's too many hosts. So, he's the lead bottom joint. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. End

of the second block. You're in the lead. I didn't I don't go that far down. Well, you don't have to when you pay them

every week in playback. Don't pay nobody. It's cool. I paid him too the other day. Got to start evening

this thing up, man. I can't I can't I can't keep losing on the money tip. You know what I mean? I gave a little $99. No, this $99. They told me you gave 100.

If you gave 99? Yes. Wait, hold on. Y'all paying it. Okay, hold on. Wait, wait. Oh my. Yeah, we

buying it. What are y'all paying for? What are y'all paying for? Hey, the presidency was bored. I'm just saying

what? Everything is purchased. What do they call it? Radio promotion. He made a billion a month. Yo, Empower came with I

don't make that. He made a billion a month. You don't make what? I wouldn't even want to make a billion. You don't make what, [ __ ] I wouldn't want to

make a million a month. You I'm answering you. I'm saying, but I'm telling you about me. I would not want

to make a billion dollars a month is what I would want you to make a month. Ignore a flip. I shared some of your

views in that like too much too much is too much. There's no such thing as too much.

No, you were expressing some [ __ ] that I like live by. I just would have never said it on air. But I I think at a

certain dollar amount, there's no such thing as your choice.

And yeah, I just I'm cool with where my life is up to a certain point. Actually,

Will Smith was just talking about this a few months ago. Uh opposite of rock bottom is mountaintop or clifftop. M and

once you get to a certain dollar amount, all you're asking for is misery from

that point on. He explained it way more eloquently than than I would be able to say it, but I subscribe to that. That's dope. Oh, yeah. I mean, [ __ ] you can

even see it. Not to go back to politics cuz we covered that enough, but you've seen all the billionaires going into this last election. Like, I don't know

if all of them felt that way, but they had to for the sake of their billions of dollars. Yeah.

If you if you could make a billion dollars a month, would you?

Yeah. Okay. I think that um it was a trick question. No, no, no. I'm saying yeah. The way Will Smith basically conveyed it

was he was also saying like, yo, when you bought everything, right, when it's

nothing that money can do for you, when you get to a place where yes, money can't do nothing for you. Now, your

internal [ __ ] starts to manifest and you start to really see like, am I happy? Am I fulfilled? all this other cuz most

poor people we think money is going to be our fulfillment. But when you get to

time to sit and self-reflect you you in this we anyway. Did you ever read his book? When you can get everything you

want, you love it. You would like it. You said we what? No, you were saying we bore people. So I was just there little

haha, right? With $5,000 shoes on. Yeah. Word. Now he bore. And I know you got

him from your man that was in the car. I rode by your house, Mr. I I rode by your house.

I got the shoes you asked for. The shoes. I rode by your house the other day. You

didn't rob by my house. Yes, I did. It's all right, though. You better shut up. Did I not? That's exactly what I told you it was. Right. What? That it's not a

huge house. Arc. I've lived in that neighborhood before you. But you know exactly where you live. Yeah. I wasn't

exaggerating. That's I told I told Yeah. All right. It's a McMansion, is it? It is not a McMansion. Yo, shut up.

But you shouldn't be looking at his house. You said you was cool with living in section 8. He said he wasn't. Who

said they was cool with living in section 8? They said that when [ __ ] Friday y'all said that. You cool with

living in section 8, too? Yes. This whole cast said it except for me and Mark and somehow we were made out to be elitist because of that, right? Nobody.

Wait, so are y'all saying that because the rent would be cheaper? They'll put a spin. We know they'll put a spin. Oh, that's why you're saying it. Yes. Okay.

And in certain depending on which market you're in, there is some luxury digs that you can get. It's just not the level that we would want. You special.

Yo, you special. Well, you said the food stamps that come with that. Yeah. Gotcha moment. We We did We did We did the food

stamp thing, too. We talked about that, too. Like, no. Wait, unless I get him in a barber shop. Well, I'll take I'll take

food stamps today, [ __ ] But that's right. I said the same thing. I said if I get him on the low like in a barber shop today. I'm not I'm not signing up

for it. Wow. We want We want more than that. I feel

like a section 8. Let me live where he lives right now in section 8. Now, what you going to say?

I've never been to Flip's house. I have. There's nothing. He could live where he lives right now on section 8. Trying to play my house [ __ ] Flip's house.

Flip's house is nice. Do you think he wants to die in that house or do you think he wants more? Here you go. Moving

the one thing I do at the house. Look at me. Section 8 buys you houses, Joe. You ain't know that either, did you? I feel

like So, you could pull out all of your corn beef hash facts. I know. I don't

want to live. You pulled out your cornbread [ __ ] about you want to die in the house. What the [ __ ] they got to

do with him living in the house that's on section 8 if he wanted to? I feel like section 8 makes you too comfortable

if you if you if you live in section 8. I feel like that sounds too. No, no, no,

no, no. I'm not being race is not a color thing. It's not a color thing. No, that's I'm just saying if I section 8

makes you too comfortable. If I live in section 8, I'll be too comfortable. I wouldn't want like I'll be too comfortable. I I'll probably buy a lot

of other [ __ ] I probably me I'm talking about me personally, [ __ ] I wouldn't even pay attention to wanting to upgrade

me. How did you get to Travis's? He stole it. I did you like did you say

one of his daughter got him that drink? He went to the spot. They moved your name up on the list. No, they took you

off the wait list. They got the stores you could go in that sell the [ __ ] that you just How much did you have one of your workers waiting in line at the Foot

Locker? They moved your I met them [ __ ] I met I met the line waiters. The [ __ ] that wait in line. You got to pay them to wait in line for you. That's

what I'm saying. You did you send one of your guys? I met them at the diddy trial. You ain't got to You met him at the Diddy trial. No, I'm serious. It's

[ __ ] you pay to stay with the [ __ ] you met. Yeah, cuz they was arguing with the lady. I swear to Yeah, they're fire.

I like how much I get paid to wait in line. Yeah, you can actually pay people to wait in line. How much would would

you get paid to wait? And here's the thing. It would be cheaper to pay somebody to wait in line than to try to pay somebody off who was waiting in line

cuz that's what they wanted to [ __ ] go in. You know what I'm saying? And it's a good hustle. Yo, like for example, if you send somebody to buy the

tickets at at face price for sneakers at face price, you could you could pay somebody, you know, $300 to wait in line

to buy $200 sneakers that you couldn't sell for $5,000. You know what I'm saying? It's not a bad

hustle. I know a lot of people that do it. Is that what you did? I told you he's he's not Yo, listen. I'm tired. I'm

tired of this old you still have Stop playing. All right. All right. Let's say they old. How you

got them? And would you wear them if you had your section 8 crib? And stop being too [ __ ] modest, [ __ ] Yes, I would.

That's the problem with you. So, that's the problem with you. I don't feel like How'd you get them though, bro? I don't

feel like it with you today. You full of [ __ ] But Friday, baby. You answer everything for how you got them? I bought them, [ __ ] What you think? You

bought them direct? Yeah. You went in the store and just bought them 2500. [ __ ] don't watch. Or did you go to Flight Club? Something like that. Flight

Club. Okay. One of them [ __ ] Joint. Oh, so big money. Okay. Big money. I got you. They wasn't fingers. How you know

which house was mine? Mark, that's my hood. You went to my

house. I know your exact house. I rode by your Oh, you w through my neighborhood. No, I through my

neighborhood. Your house just happens to be in it. Oh [ __ ] I rolled down your block. How do you know which one is? I

don't know which one is his house. Fix that up. So all that time I said wasn't right about what my house look like. You was playing it off as if like that's

what the section 8 [ __ ] be doing when they ride to

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my get one of those. You seen CNN, right? You do that be on there. That's

my man. That's my car. I'm going to go home and look that on. Oh man. Yo, Flip

Perfectly brought us to this Diddy case. So, I don't know if you guys heard, uh, one of the jurors have been removed,

41-year-old black male for inconsistencies with his address where he lived.

Apparently, one time he said he lived in Brooklyn. Other time he said live in Staten Island. So, judge kicked him. Alternate juror in 54 year old white

male. How many black jurors are on the um that I don't know. Three now, right?

Oh, three was four, right? Wasn't it? I I can't say for a fact. That's That's black jurors or just black

men? Black jurors. Black jurors. My understanding is there four. I could be wrong. I'm not 100% sure on that, but I've been told four. I know there's four

men, eight women. I don't know the se slave zone gone.

What? You kicked somebody off the jury cuz they had inconsistencies in their

address. Yeah. What does that have to do? How does that even keep coming up? Y'all, I gave you an address in the beginning. It might be because they

might be trying to diversify the jury pool from different parts of and so if you said you were from here, we wouldn't have picked you if you were from there.

It might be one of those things. It's probably I still think it's a technicality to get rid of certain people. But you ask me again after the trial starts or they

out. That seems more likely. Yo yo you know

Rake number 12 on them [ __ ] right? Yo number 12 he bullshitting right he right here with me. He be here with me. That's

crazy. And replaced him with a white male. 54 years old. I mean, look, [ __ ]

probably from [ __ ] could be from anywhere. Oh, myra. Hey,

hey, hey, everybody. And they played uh this was the first

time that they actually played some video footage from the freakoffs. Uh they played about 12 to 13 seconds.

Freaky ass courtroom roof. Audio was on it. Uh, well, they had heard audio clips

before. I don't know if audio was on this video. Well, it must have been because it's being reported that a few

of the jurors had reactions to what they were seeing. That's gross. I was I take

that to mean that they maybe heard something, too. Apparently, one one lady laughed, one lady turned away her face

in disgust. I wanted to come here a few weeks ago and talk when they said when the judge

checked Puff for looking locking eyes with one of the jurors. N

you can't do that. Yeah, but we going to do that. That's the same jury that got No, no, no, no. I don't know about that.

No, I mean that's what's been reported. That's reported. Is that what's being reported? That's what's being reported. I don't know if it's confirmed, but

that's what's been reported that the person he locked eyes with was the person who um who was removed. I don't

know that. Again, I'm not saying that as a fact, but that's what's been reported. I don't know for sure. Me and you over here bonding. Yo, you hear this

[ __ ] my [ __ ] He was shaking like this. Got a big money scheme. And you ain't even You ain't even with it. They

getting him out of here. That's crazy. I mean, I thought they was doing that before the juror got removed, but this

is just like cementing it. Yeah. Oh, you can't look at the juror and smile. I mean, why? You can't. What are you

talking about? Because he's already been accused. Witness looked at 19 jurors. Okay. But Puff

specifically has been accused of witness tampering, manipulating people. Um, has

Puff been accused? John did that and pulled up the witness's houses afterwards and had them followed. He been That's why he didn't get bailed.

They said that he could potentially tamper with witnesses and intimidating. Exactly. So, he has not been accused of

that, though. It's two different things. If you think that I could do some [ __ ] or if I did it, it's different. Well, I

mean, isn't that an accusation in order to keep him in jail? Bail denied because we believe this is what you do. So, or

can do or could or can't. So, okay. So, we're being semanticy by calling it like, you know, an accusation. Well,

yeah, we're not saying you didn't. We just know you possibly could do it. Okay. But just the same [ __ ] though.

What do you guys think about the juror being removed? We always get I agree. One quick thing though I just

want to add is you are allowed to look at the You can look at whoever the [ __ ] you want to look. You don't have to be docel in court like this meek looking at

the ground. You could look over there at the people. Not only not only are you allowed to look at the jury but they often encourage you encourage you so

that you could show remorse etc etc. But I'm talking about during the selection process for idea

they encourage you to look during the trial. You're allowed to look. But what they they say is don't stare. Yes. Because if you stare but what if I found

one of them that agrees with what I'm what's what I'm thinking. No rule against it. Then I got to stare at him. Yeah. I saw a homeboy make a face when

somebody said some [ __ ] Me and him. I think that that's also if they see

that I think that's why they start checking his address. If that's the same person looking for something to get him out of here.

And they're also they're probably also afraid that like the eye connection is a

very nuanced non-verbal sense of communication. Two black dudes kind of like looking at each. Exactly. It's like

when two girl. Exactly. They're saying that dude conversation, right? They're

saying dude, by the way, said that he lived in the Bronx, but he lives in New Jersey. And because it's a Manhattan,

you live out of state, then you got to get and he did tell another juror or someone overheard it.

I got to hit home, man. That traffic in the tunnel. I live in No, he told a court staff

member. That's a Oh, that's even worse. Allegedly. Allegedly. according to the news. You're done, buddy. Pack it up.

Oh, yeah. You wink that puff. We're going to get you a dumb ass out of here. We'll make up a reason why you getting

the [ __ ] from out of here, but it's cool. But you off this trial. Uh, final thoughts on this from you guys. I I

think that his his [ __ ] uh goose is cooked. I thought Yeah, I thought his muffin was cracked long before the juror

thing. I think it's Have you been keeping up? Casually. I've been living my life like it's golden, [ __ ] Let me

in. Y'all [ __ ] want to be out there breaking the law. I ain't cracking my neck to pick up the New York Post to see

what the [ __ ] the trial is. I'm sorry. I'm phony. Yeah. Okay. All right. All right. After

the first maybe two, three days, I'll stop watching. Yeah. Now, people I don't know if you get free. My phone going to

start buzzing. He going to call you as long as your car's not buzzing. Don't get your [ __ ]

off. All right. I don't think I don't think that he would since you're asking. I heard what you said.

Whatever I said, I standing there. If I'mma go rock with the protesters, I'm going, [ __ ] Can't stop. Can't stop.

Won't stop. I ain't leaving cuz I'm trying to get natural. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[ __ ] [ __ ] born natural. Natural. Natural. Naturalized. Naturalized. Yo,

stupid. Oh my god, man. Oh, that's you can't a [ __ ] can't check mail. A [ __ ]

can't just get me on the phone by calling my phone.

Sorry is sorry. You don't answer the phone for Puff.

Uh out of there. No, it's over that. That's done deal. Dunzo. There's nothing

to talk about. It's nothing to discuss. He might want to come on the show. Good film. He's not allowed on the show. I

see a trajectory to my life and by the grace of God, it's going that way. I

know. I'm not I'm not pulling nobody up. That was in my 30s. No, it is, bro. In

my 40s. Uh, what Drake stand for? Do right and kill everything. You do that.

And I'mma do that. And if we happen to meet at [ __ ] Say Less or Pgola. Hey,

if they let you upstairs in Pragola, I'll see you. They let you up there.

Just be everywhere. That's where you go if you want to see what all your old [ __ ] are doing. Pragola. Second

floor. Pragola. Second floor. Pragola. M if you're just curious about what all whoever your old work which you

shouldn't be curious anyway but if you just want to happen to see a good second floor on a week night spring

night on a week night spring fall yeah yeah yeah yeah nice day go go go in there by

yourself and just and just have a look around 78° Thursday order hookah by yourself and just sit there and ice

grill them best shoes on you ever ice your old work while they with some new doofus [ __ ] look she trying to dress

different now you look stupid. No, you don't look right as you look straight ahead, right?

Yeah, we know. I sit there on a FaceTime and then show the phone. Look, look at them. I hit I hit the camera.

I put this [ __ ] right in the group chat like I did Po when he was dating that little black girl.

You still talk? You ain't letting that piece go. Yo, Bo ain't letting that thick black

thing go, boy. God, crazy. I know that is. Go ahead, bro. Man, what happened to

your elbow, gang? You talking to me? Yeah. What happened to your elbow? Just a tennis elbow. It's funny you ask. You

trying to get one of them lawsuits put you on to? Uh oh. Well, not in regards

to this, but yeah. We're I don't put people on to any kind of lawsuits. That would be illegal. You ma'am? Not in

regards to this. Why you [ __ ] with that [ __ ] Huh? Cuz I exposing [ __ ] I'll be exposing [ __ ] You saying again? Trying

to get [ __ ] booked. You saying that [ __ ] again on here, [ __ ] Talk loud when I'm here, boy. when them when them legal scams work that you look into.

What I don't give a [ __ ] what you none of y'all [ __ ] say. I'm here to expose all you [ __ ] while I'm up here. Okay.

What happened to y got a word for that? Couple ratting snitching and a big blow

up image. I don't do problems with old [ __ ] A

little tail attached to this guy crazy. I think we talked we talked about this on last podcast. I was

here. Okay. Yeah. No, I tennis elbow. Okay. Mhm. So for the next 3 to 4 weeks

with a potential extension for 3 to four more weeks if it's successful, she should be wearing this uh bandage. Is

that right? Uh something like that. I go for physical therapy and all this is not

all that interesting. Yeah. No, we got to hear the tennis ball side. [Laughter]

I'm not I'm hope I hope you're okay. Thank you. This [ __ ] [ __ ] hurts. Don't throw your shoulder out next.

Okay. Stupid. We got in this mall fight.

Hey, I'm here all week. As you exit, DVDs are for sale to your left.

Uh, what else we got? What else we got? Come on. While Mark's still awake, y'all. Yeah, I was This was nothing

about nothing. It's just something that was [ __ ] weird. Not weird, odd to me. So, I'm at my uh my daughter's preschool

graduation. Oh, congrats to her. Word word. Thank you. Congrats to her and my stepson. Both of them graduated. But um

so you know the graduation theme song that they play the the little march I don't pump and circuit whatever the [ __ ]

it's called that I call it macho man Randy Savage theme song. Anyway, tomato tomato. They cut that and went into not

like us. Oh [ __ ] The preschoolers. Yeah. I was like y doesn't seem

appropriate. Kendrick won. You don't say. I was like, "Wait till

Drake DMs the school, exerts his power,

[ __ ] ass school." I was like, "Oh shit." And the little kids came out dancing to not like us and were saying

they were using it as like a we're stepping up. They like they tried to make not like us a positive phrase.

Not like us is a positive phrase though. But who's the the staff? I guess the other kids, [ __ ] I don't know.

The one that didn't graduate that ain't graduating. You know how crazy that is? Not like us. You don't see that as a

positive phrasal depending on which side the graduation you're on. Yeah. Not in school. Depending on who you [ __ ] on, right?

Yeah. Depending on who the us or who they are. The kids that are going to be preschoolers again. Not so positive.

Those who back,

they younger than us. What the [ __ ] you talking about? It was just If we've if we've set out to

identify people that are different than us and we identify them unfortunately

that Well, no. Oh, you Mhm. Oh, you took it the racial way. All right, forget it. I a think about that. I didn't even say

nothing about race. I wasn't saying that, but nothing about race. Now I'm I'm just speaking generally. Who's to

say us is right? So now when you say they not like us, what if we wrong? Well, that's true cuz you be on the them

side. I'm they I hate all you [ __ ] honestly. pronouns

in a school that there should be nobody who's losing. True. That's the problem. It's like they not like us. Like we better like nobody should be wait in

12th grade. They in 11th grade and 10th grade. They not like us cuz we get to walk across the stage. Cool. I mean

that's I guess what you said. There should be nobody losing. Yeah. That's supposed to be celebrated school

supposed to be losing in the school. The kids that didn't work hard enough. Yeah. You gota See, I disagree with all of

that. hard work. The ones that work hard and uh are head and shoulders above the rest should be rewarded for that. Yeah,

but a lot of times the reason why section 8 [ __ ] should eat crab legs. I wasn't here for the section 8 talk. That

is true. But a lot of times for your gotcha moment that you missed a bit.

Well, wait. Do you think section 8 people should eat crab legs? [ __ ] yes. See? Well,

and you don't. I answered that already. I don't remember. No. He said no. He says they shouldn't have steak. This

evil [ __ ] said they eat their steaks well section 8 crab

said that section 8 [ __ ] supposed to live for free and not pay the landlords no money during co and y'all stood by

that like it was [ __ ] I don't know what you talking about when my people hit me and was like yo I got I got the

card and I Yeah, they want you to call me. Who called me? No, they caught me. I

know they came and dropped all them crab legs and mouth [ __ ] was great.

You ain't protest. No. Why that protest?

Listen, I know some [ __ ] on section 8. You ain't going to be able to tell them there's a food in the supermarket that they can't get. [ __ ] I know some

[ __ ] on section 8 that got numbers on the back of their vehicle with letters next to it.

[ __ ] you talking about? Oh, I'm slow. Yo, I thought I would get slower in my

50s. I don't It's coming, [ __ ] No, it's here. It ain't coming at all. S500,

S600. Oh, okay. Okay. I know what the [ __ ] I thought he I

thought he thought drivers.

Maybe I'm not getting [ __ ] She's not like us. G550, [ __ ]

No, I've been told you I'm not like yo. Oh, yeah. I'm not like He not like He

not like nobody. I used to be like him. You never was like me. Yo, shut up. You the upgraded version of him. I didn't

That's I just asked a question. No, I make sure a [ __ ] clean it up. No, I'm the upgraded version of me. Oh,

you are. It's a good answer. Um, that phone. Let's see. Stupid. Yo. All right.

We've unpacked the Diddy TR. We've unpacked Quomo versus uh Mammi. Uh, we

did not unpack the new Will Smith song yet. The video. Girls about liking

girls. That [ __ ] the girls. Is this the one from the album Pretty Girls? Yeah, I like Pretty Girls. Whatever. He decided

that that wasn't enough. I have it here. That's actually not horrible. That

and that beat is going to go. I can see it tick tocking. It's not going to go. It's not going to go It's not going to go nowhere here. That may Europe now,

but it's not. That record is not for here. I was around when [ __ ] getting Jiggy with it dropped. And that was Courtney, too. And it worked. I don't

know. Jiggy work. Switch work. This ain't going. The problem is, first of all, if this had been the lead single

and he had done this first and didn't do them terrible freestyles and all the other [ __ ] he might have been on a different trajectory. We just say he

made a corny mid album, right? But he has, with all due respect, has kind of

um embarrassed. This feels like Midlife Crisis now. So by the time this comes out, what would be a song that might be

a five on a one to 10, you know what I mean? Is going to feel like another corny move. Like it's too late. You know what I mean? Even for Miz International,

I don't know what you talking about. If the right girl gets this [ __ ] that's influential on the gram and has that

[ __ ] on dancing to it, everybody else going to follow suit. This is not horrible. I don't think I pantheon.

That's what I'm saying. It's relative talking over each other. I want to hear you. I said it's not that bad in the pantheon of Will Smith records. Like

true. I remember Wild Wild West and all that [ __ ] This fits right in that playlist. And if we'll pull the boat up

over there in the south of France or over there where they be at playing this type of [ __ ] Okay. Them pretty girls

going on the boat with Oh, this works in Europe. As I said, All right. Can anybody just Hold on real

quick before No, no, no. I shut up all the time. Let me say something. When Drake did that honestly never mind album

that y'all a lot of people tried to sit here and love it was bit cuz it's made for international and go over there and

go over there. This is that type of [ __ ] that this type of record. All right. Hey yo yo, mute all these mics, please. Hey

dog, that's what we doing. Please mute every other mic but mine. Please say less. Got it. Please mute every single

mic. Got it. I can't anymore.

I don't know who payroll you [ __ ] is on.

This is not what y'all are describing. And this broadcast has too much esteem

in the music world for me to let y'all keep telling people that if the right

girl get their hands on this, it's going to fly. I let y'all get y'all [ __ ] Snoop

takes off. This y'all have to stop. I don't know what Will Smith album you working on.

I'm not working on Will Smith. The days of Wild Wild West cuz that worked too. All them shits that you named work.

Those days are not here. Will Smith is how old? 50. The stimulus

plan that you naming is not working today for 50 however year old Will

Smith. I don't think this is a bad song. But we can't pump this up like this is

about to do something. I'm not saying that's not what I said either for y'all.

I did not say I did not say I said never said this is doing nothing. All I said was this record would work for him over

there. I said it's not for here. I don't agree with the Tik Tok, Instagram, none of that stuff that Ish said. I said with

over there overseas, this is an international sounding record. Oh, no. I was down with you until you started

until you made the Drake reference. Drake is the biggest rapper in the world. I'm just talking about the sound. Mhm. The sound. When Honestly, never

mind came out, I came in here and hated that and y'all said no, it's not for here. Luxury sound. Go overseas. They

playing it overseas. I'm telling you that type of sound with Will Smith who

he is and his uh uh star quality overseas, this would work for him,

[ __ ] They playing that song in can right now. That's what I'm saying. So, I don't think it's going to work, but it's not the horrible. When it first came

out, it sounded horrible to me, but again, Will Smith, there's somebody online saying that if you pitch it down,

I thought it sounded bad both times. So, that little tweet didn't get me. But there was another tweet that said, "If you p Anita Baker down, she sounds like

Michael McDonald." And that one hasn't hasn't left my head. Other way around, you pitch it up and Michael McDonald

sounds like Anita Baker. I didn't see that one. You just said the same. No, you didn't. I said if you pitch Anita

Baker down. And she said, "If you pitch Michael McDonald up, the recording is of Michael

McDonald being pitched up, he sounds like Anita Baker." That's what it was. I don't think she said that, but let's do

it. Yeah, it was a video that was What' you take? We a music part. Let's

do it. We are not a music part. The song was I keep forgetting. Oh,

okay. It's definitely Michael McDonald. It's my All right. So, final Michael McDonald

song. Now, you got to do the other way. What she said cuz she ain't going to let it go. Could you believe them? I told them there was a [ __ ] video. They

didn't listen. It has nothing to do with whether you believe me or not. There is a video circulating where it's playing Michael McDonald. I want to hear it and

they pitch it up and it sounds like her. You got your tennis.

Yo, the internet was a mistake. The internet discovering slowing records up. I'm mad

that I ever read that cuz that blew my mind. That's going to bother me. Every time you hear it now. That one sounded

nuts. Yeah, Mel's one was definitely better. Yeah. Yeah.

You ready, Fox? Oh, yeah. We're recording. Yeah, he try, you know, he tried to gas me some sort of moral

morale uh boost. No, I don't need that. I'm good, homie. Salute. Do that for everybody else. That was you that just

said, "Yo, please pass me the ball. Please allow me to introduce something, announce some or do a No, I didn't use

the pass the ball. I said I said trying to speak on a topic here is like trying to win the lottery. That's what I

stated. Yeah, that's what Why do you think that is? There's a lot of, you know, a lot of voices, a lot of passion when it comes, you know, a lot of us are

passionate. Somebody got to go. Uh, I don't think so. I just think that, you know, you as the boss got pick, you

know, we spoke on the phone about, you know, I think that you more than well enough. You know, that [ __ ] did leave

that [ __ ] on the phone about this. That [ __ ] that didn't leave me about y'all spoke on the phone about No, let me let

me just say I I I you know, I like to do and this is about me. I like Yeah. Make the face. I don't give a [ __ ] if you

look at him. He can't make I'm not looking at I'm not looking at the red camera. Ju just just about a review on

me and you know that's that's all it was. So you didn't call complain too too much talking. No no no no no complaint just you know he just had a real [ __ ]

conversation with his boy and that's why I was able to see you yesterday. Um but right now what that was the end of your

story. Yeah. I don't think that cuz when I get into too much details they don't like breaking the fifth wall. Right. Since you like to cater to the We're not

breaking the fifth wall. Yeah. All right. I have No, no, no. Don't do that. Don't brush me off. Tell me to correct

it. That's what you do a lot. That shows that I'm not capable of explaining. Listen. No, no, no, no, no, no. You can

explain it, but you might go past the line. Okay, good. I also don't want to go past a line. That's why I'm doing it.

Oh my god. Yeah. I'm not going back past the line that you told me. No, not I'm not going.

No, not about that. This go ahead. No, no, no. But I had I wanted to have a

conversation about just my performance, how I could get better, where things went wrong. He was just honest with me about my performance, where things went

wrong, how the ball was handed to me, and how things had to shift because I wanted I didn't want to play ball and

you know, he was just a real [ __ ] [ __ ] He brought up facts. I didn't think he had the facts, but a lot of things he watched. Yo, this is what you did. He

was correct. You did this at this time. He had his dates correct. I think the [ __ ] pulled it out his phone cuz his memory usually bad. And I had to go to

my notes because I try to record him a lot and get notes on him to use it in talk with him. I I I don't It's like he

called me at a great time Saturday morning whenever. I It wasn't I don't have these types of talks with him. It

was a real indepth conversation about performance review and how you can improve and somehow that got to how you

can make more, earn more. Yeah, that's and then somehow that got to me asking

him on some real I said real talk, real talk off the record. No, you gonna bring me up if you do that. If you do I said

real talk what you made last month. Like honestly, he was hesitant.

But after a second, he told me, but shot right back.

But what you made this month? I mean, last month. And I told him.

And he said, and look what he said. He said, "Oh, the [ __ ] stuck." He going to tell me. He said, "Look at you. You stuck now."

I said, "No, no, I'm not stuck." Cuz you know, you ask [ __ ] that, you never believe they're going to say something. He said that G pow. He was like

stunned deep. He had to get off the phone. So you just got to be careful when you

ask questions. Anyway, I lied to him too. No, you didn't. Go ahead. Forb releases 2025 list of top 50 creators

ranked by earnest. No, I'm reading it. My [ __ ] making fun. Yo, a day four.

Yeah, this is take seven. Not this sim has been [ __ ] him up. Releases see

[ __ ] releases 20 Forbes. Yes. Forbes. Slow down. Not

forb. Yo, are y'all [ __ ] nuts? You wasn't saying Forbes. I'm saying Forbes now.

Releases 2020 list. This is trying to ride with you. 50 creators ranked by earnest.

Oh, y'all [ __ ] clap like this. Why they say that [ __ ] online? Chicken nugget [ __ ] If you do that, I'm

going fry you up. I'm about to pee on my Harlem night. Yes, I'm definitely

a sunroof, [ __ ] Time to shake that [ __ ] off and go bald. What you got? Go ball, [ __ ] Stop holding on to your

youth. Got Winnebago. Hey yo, I got anyway. Mr. Beast is at

number one. $85 million. Mr. Beast number one. I don't know who this other guy is. What's his name? Do you want me to read everybody jump? I don't trust

Mr. Beast as far as I can throw that. I I I could read the top 10. Top 10. Yeah. All right. Number one, Mr. Beast, 85

million. Darm man 56 million. Jake Paul 50 million. Rhett and Link 36 million.

Alex Cooper 32 million. Charlie de Alo uh 23 million. Matt Refeion. Mark Robert

25 million. Duski 14 million. And uh Yeah. Kab lame 20 million.

Yeah, that's the top 10. Top 10. Yeah. Do we think that's accurate? Say it

again. Do we think that's accurate? Was it year how much I made in the year? Yeah. 2025 so far, I guess. Oh, okay.

This is outside of my wheelhouse. Do [ __ ] said so far made I mean the other

day DDG DDG showed he made 12 million at that last month. Well, that's what I was

going to ask y'all cuz I don't know this world. like how how act how accurate one I know people just lie but how trackable

is this stuff you know like how do y'all trust these numbers? Yeah, I do. I do. I mean I watch you know I trust them

somewhat with the names that they're attached to on this list. Okay. I do. I mean when you see Twitch like Twitch breaks it down. You have to stream a lot

and stream for a certain amount of hours but Twitch also puts a lot of ads in there. It's some funny [ __ ] that I've

learned and there's a lot of ads about like 30 ads within the video. So, I don't know how that helps, but can I ask

a question? Sure. Why don't you do that? I just feel like you got the No, I'm not being

funny. Like, I feel like you got the Twitch. Yeah. Like that long term cuz you have an audience. You You like to

travel like like all the [ __ ] I watch all them guys do. Like, I feel like you could do it. They all look up to you and The Room is basically like a kind of

oneoff of That's what I'm saying. Like, it feels like you could do this at McMill. I'm not being there. No joke. Okay. So

to be honest, I did something with Twitch before. A lot of times when I get in a situation, I just be transparent. I

try to find a loophole just like it was with uh Caffeine. I try to, you know, I

do a certain amount of hours and then I try to do the double the hours in there. So I always try to find a loophole with Twitch. I mean, we're in talks. Shout

out to, you know, I'm in talks now. Oh, I want But I had took a break and I want to just leave it that way. Okay. Yeah. I

don't want to mess nothing up. I was genuinely, it just seemed like right up your alley. I'm a loophole type g guy. Gi got you. That's it. Should we

announce that if you're in talks? Well, anything to announce? No. Okay. Look at

you. Yeah, you going to be you. If it's one person that don't want you to succeed, it's just the opposite. Oh, I

didn't say that. I didn't even When he's ready to announce, don't announce premature [ __ ] No, but No, but that's not true. Cuz if you wanted me to

succeed, we would have did the uh content that we were supposed to do about doing um um yoga. Don't touch her

today. talking about you wanted to call the owner. I hit her this weekend. She tried she trying to do that old school [ __ ] Let me spot off from the owner. We

can use the studio. Girl, I can pay for any studio. Do you know how many There's liabilities involved here. The liability

is you being in the studio. He owns it. And if you get injured or even I get injured, which I wouldn't. Mel, you back

doing skits with Flip after the dog. It's not a skit. It's long form content. Going to correct it. You back to doing

[ __ ] with Flip after he dropped you on the Van Wick after y'all left the petting zoo. She told me I was rude in

the van wig. She said I was rude cuz I wouldn't have a conversation with her in the car while driving. She said that's rude. It's true. Um we have discussed at

length for a while now talking about the the Pilates video. You know Ice, you said you do it you do it with us, too.

Been okay. All right. I'm still working on it. Back to this list. All right. Back to the list. You got more. You have

more. You want to read us is please. What are you guys seeing? Cuz you like you're impressed. Yeah, I'm I am impressed. I'm very impressed. Are you

crazy? How could you not be? That old list is depressing. This is 2025 numbers, [ __ ] We in June. That's

what I'm saying. So, when we hear that the world is going broke or we may be going into a deficit and we see these

numbers, man, it should be motivational, right? Independent. Being independent, you can still make it work. Oh, he was

talking about Miss Rachel. She number 20. 23 million. You going to find out where

Miss Rachel was? No. Cory told me she was on it. Yeah. Cory's not on this broadcast. I'm sorry. Shut up. I'm going to make

one of them list one day. Of course you if anybody believe that it's me. I definitely see that you do the photo.

You going to do the photo shoot with me when I make the list? No. Uh like that [ __ ] when you did when you made number one. You [ __ ] made number one on

that list and tell nobody was going to make number one. But he knew he had a whole photo shoot and all. I forgot nobody else used to work there but me.

Nobody else woke up at 5 in the morning Monday through Thursday and and went and created a show. I was just talking to

[ __ ] to you. Don't get in your bag. Culture shifting into your bag. Still being mimicked today. Nobody else did

that but me. So why would somebody else get that call? We don't don't get into your bag. Okay. Uh god damn.

Congratulations to all of those words. That's a lot of bread. Yes, it is. That's a lot of bread. It's still

reading. You ready to leave? Look. My dog. It's this girl. Um I you I know

you saw this girl named Erica. She be on the thing. She'd be like, "How'd you know that?" Erica told me on Instagram.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She She's an attorney. She had like a former attorney. Yeah. She on the list. Yeah. Mhm. At what?

She's a contact. What's happening on the list? She's number 34. She made 7 mil so far. 21

million followers. Engagement is 21%. Got it. Got it. Jesus. Again,

congratulations to everybody that made that list. Everybody that [ __ ] is

indulging in these life-changing activities, lineage. Shout out to the next group that's see the inspiration.

That's going to push them to make that list next time. That's fine. That shit's dope. That [ __ ] got to be inspiring

watching all of these people who was in their room or still in their room. Speed [ __ ] make that type of money. Every

time I see him, I just be like, "Yeah, he goes through it. He number 42." Who?

Speed. Yeah. How much? How much? 20 million. Oh, he's getting robbed. These numbers are through the roof. He's

getting robbed. Some Some of these people getting robbed. That's the funny [ __ ] Some of these numbers can't tell

them that rob You can't tell them that.

Not my place. No, that's based on your your decade, but that's your decade of

this business. You understand what I'm saying? Mhm. That's how you uh

Yeah, never mind. That's not important. But yeah, again, shout out to all those people. That's That's awesome. Super awesome. What What else What else do we

have? What else do we have? Uh Stephen A. Yes.

Stephen A. Desmond Bane. Let's start with Stephen A. Stephen A was playing

what was he playing? Solitaire. Solitaire at the finals. The camera caught him. He's been getting dragged

ever since. And I don't know where I stand on this. This is what I say.

You're supposed to be a professional. You're paid to watch the game. You're paid handsomely to watch the game. You

should watch the game. However, anybody who's ever worked in media knows

that there's moments where you you're completely locked in and there's moments where you're not. If people want to

criticize him for playing solitire, fine, whatever. But I don't want people

to believe that he's doing something that's so far out of the realm of normal

that we start to think that he's somehow a bad broadcast and everybody else is a good broadcast. I don't know any broadcaster who doesn't do that. I know

people. We're watching breaking news on elections. We're watching breaking news on a bombing, a school shooting, whatever. People be on Instagram, Tik

Tok, all those things. I'm talking about at CNN, at Fox, and MSNBC playing, texting people, whatever, not paying

attention to the breaking development cuz and also finally there's a way. It's like when you have kids and you can, you

know, you can watch your kids and do something else at the exact same time. If Stephen A. Smith has been covering basketball for 40 years, you know what I

mean? He's been a Temple Sixers, NBA, all that. I guarantee you he can go with

them cards and watch and watch a basketball game at the same time. It's like when your girl talking to you and

babe, I'm joking. I'm joking. There's only one problem with that. That would leave people

to guesstimate or assume whether or not Stephen A can play solitire and watch the game at the

same time. Right. It's a bad There should be absolutely zero reason for

people to have to assume this. One. Two. This is the worst possible time to be

caught playing solitire. There's already a lot of talk. No, it's not. It is. No,

the worst would be the week before you signed that $100 million contract. Facts. Yeah. Week after the second worst

time. And that was that was my third point. But now a lot of the criticism that the finals that the finals or the

NBA is receiving, people are waking up. People are waking up and saying, "Yo, it's not just the product and how they

roll that out. also with their licensed brand partners and how those people speak about the game. A lot of people

are saying that these people don't even watch the games. Like you got independent commentators now on

Instagram and YouTube that are that are coming up and making a rise because people feel like Shaq Barkley, Stephen

A, and a bunch of them just don't watch the games and you can hear that in their commentary. So to see somebody playing

solitire during the NBA finals, a small market NBA finals, we need all hands on

deck. We need everybody to at least look like you paying attention. Now, I agree with your media point, too, because it's

mad hurry up and wait. It's mad dead and dry spots where you should be doing something on your phone. That's not

accounting for secondary media, which is just [ __ ] with phones. Yeah, that's

just fans that are going to record you and put some [ __ ] out. If the podcasters

and rappers and entertainers got to deal with it, he got to deal with it. Also, lastly, to your point, you just signed a

contract for one over $100 million is being reported. You just signed another serious contract for x amount of

dollars, pays you $25 million annually. The suits are looking a lot cleaner.

No solitire. It's not a huge ask. Or it's not a huge ask. Or privacy screen.

that too. If you gotta play, that's the old man [ __ ] right there. You know what I'm saying? If you gotta do it and then

and then the double down in it I thought was a little ill, too. Well, because he underestimates the internet. It's just like my It's just like junk meet sing,

right? Like, oh, I I didn't enjoy uh Kendrick. Then you find he dancing at the wrong part. He said it was a

timeout. Good example. And then the fans, oh what? I know they they zoomed back and was like, "Yeah, no, there was

a play going on." And you could see it. And I mean, he had to say something. Actually, he didn't have to say anything. What he should have just said

was I was I apologize for it. You know what I mean? I was fully locked into the game, but I I apologize for appearing.

The day before that or the day after that, him and Jay Will got into it because he got on there and said, "Well,

the topic was on first take, if Greek Freak doesn't win another championship,

he's an underachiever." And Jay Will was highly offended. That was crazy. He should have been. and he kind of spoke

to what some of the bad shock takes are doing to the the game and how people

view it. So, I mean, it's just uh incidents in a row where it's like not

the time when we're on our biggest stage. They just bought back player introductions. Mhm. You see them trying

to [ __ ] uh self-impose trophies on the like they trying in real time. Mhm.

We don't need our biggest and most recognizable commentator

playing songs. How does that make you feel? How does that make you feel when you point something like that out and then they change it in real time? Well,

I'm not taking credit for that. I think a lot of people did that. A lot of A lot of people said Well, I didn't hear I don't watch sports. I heard you say it,

but I didn't know a lot of people saying that. I said it and I think that a lot of them [ __ ] listen to me, but a lot

of people said that the way that you're presenting this, Damn, this [ __ ] up now. You know what I You know what I

took? They picked the wrong commentators for the game.

Like I think they picked it's Mike Breen, Doris B, Doris, and uh Richard

Jefferson. They don't do it. But who I love Doris B. Huh? I was going to ask you who who

you would pick. I like Doris Burke. You got to have some comedy. You got to have some personality. You got to have a

little bit of charisma. Like remember Mark Jackson and Jeff Van Gundy

Van Gundy they bring comedy they crack on each other at the games they do like a lot of these games haven't been the

most competitive throughout some of the portions like uh Indiana's up 20 OKC's

up 20 during that time people are getting l that are watching the game [ __ ] be cutting it off only to

find out the other team won the next day right you need dialogue you need commentary to engage the watchers and

the listeners and they are not getting it done. And you need to not play solitire when cameras around.

When is Michael Jordan going to start the commentary? But you're right though. There's no hand down, man. Mike Green

ain't even giving him a bang bang. This [ __ ] is not It ain't that like the [ __ ]

is I'm watching cuz I'm a basketball fan. But these [ __ ] are not keeping me

intrigued. Have they done any stats on like um watch time or not not watch time like in terms of like percentage it's

super talen least watched finals in Yeah. in decades. I mean it's it's it's bad. And

I mean I agreed that the announcing will help but ultimately if the players aren't there people are I mean I'm WNBA

same thing. I I literally bought the WNBA package last Tuesday I think to watch to watch Atlanta play Indiana. To

watch Caitlyn to watch Caitlyn. Yeah. To watch Indiana play Atlanta. When I when I tuned after spending my money, signing

in, doing all that [ __ ] the moment I saw Caitlyn wasn't there, she was hurt. She was hurt and the game wasn't

competitive. It was competitive. I would have kept watching the game wasn't competitive. I turned it off. And it ultimately if the if the players aren't

there and the games and the game's not competitive, it's a it's a terrible mix. I don't think any announcer, I don't think Stephen Nate, whatever. Nothing

can fix that. You know what I mean? I think that the NBA had a terrible bout of luck this year. You know, if you

think about all the NBA finals in the '9s, this this I ain't no rivalry here.

No, outside of the Hallebertton story of all the

players rating him overrated and now him making it this far. There's no story to this finals really, right? There's nothing you said you you watch it

because you're a basketball fan. I think those are the only people that are really watching this finals right now

are just the diehard just fans of the sport. Um, I agree with you. I think I

think that ultimately I think the NBA is being greedy and I think they doing a whole bunch of [ __ ] based on money and

saving money in their bottom line. They fired a bunch of people that the the the the public liked. You know what I'm

saying? Because they didn't want to pay him. And I think that's it coming back to Rooster. Let me get finals picks

before we close from everybody in case anybody's changed. I'm still riding with Indiana. The odds aren't

looking as good, but I want the Pacers to win. It looks like the Thunder. I'm still riding with the I'm still going to take Indiana. They won 68 games. I'm

going back on my [ __ ] Yeah. OKC. I want the Pacers to win. I said OKC was going to win in the beginning, but I'm

rooting for the Pacers. Yeah, I'm rooting for I really want the Pacers to beat them. Me, too. Even though I'm happy for Sam Prey, who I just learned

that was a fun find. They said uh they found Sam Prey's uh old rap blues album

that he made. Okay. And he's on the cover. Oh [ __ ] No, I haven't heard it,

but I know it's better than three stacks [ __ ] flute album. Piano was hard.

Both of them [ __ ] Oh, please [ __ ] with the flute. Um, Ace Bailey is rumored to

be shooting down draft boards. Yes, a

projected top three pick now in some mock drafts is nowhere near the top

three. Uh, and this is because he's missing workouts. He's refusing to interview with certain people. Please.

Yeah. I mean, you hit the nail on the head. He's dropping down draft boards. I'm as a 76er fan who Yes. We're in the

lottery. Uh, we have the number three spot. The big talk it initially was, do we draft a Ace Bailey? Do we draft uh

the other kid from Ruckers? Harper. Harper. And And it was like um Ace Bailey was kind of at the top of

people's list at the beginning. Rumors came out uh that Bailey said he would not

uh work out for the Sixers and there were several other lottery teams that he would not work out. Some people in this

campus said that's not true. The Sixers have said that he they were never refused. They were very careful with their words. They said he never refused to work out. Some of the rumblings are

saying that he's asking for he needs specific uh development plans or plans to make him a superstar in order for him

like what is your team's plan for to make me a superstar before he goes to work out for them. I understand that

some players have leverage and I want players to exercise all the leverage they have. But this might be some old man get off my lawn [ __ ] But I'm just a

little tired of these young kids who are unproven, who are not number one picks, who are not number two picks coming out

here making all these demands demands before they even work out for a team. That's all I'm saying. And and I I'm

worried that the kid is going to hurt his draft stock and lose far more money than he could have and maybe ruin a

reputation, fair or unfair, uh for these kinds of demands. And I just I just don't like it. I just I just go work out

for people and see what happens. I think it's just a side effect of NIL. Same thing with the Shadore in in the in the

league. It's push back from the league and it's overconfidence in the players. It's both kind of meeting ahead and it's

going to be a a stalemate. Broken hungry no more. I just pulled up some of these mock drafts, dog. First of

all, let me say that this draft is deep. This ain't really the one to play around in.

Like I wouldn't just be skipping a bunch of workouts, right? This ain't the one to play. You go from number three to

number eight. Yeah, because um VJ Edgecomb is nice. Uh sure dude from

Kansas is nice, but this mock draft I'm looking at and this dude is nice too. The Khan Canupal, uh the shooting dude,

the big boy, big white boy from Duke, they got him in the fourth slot. Mark

Draft I saw had him at 9, 10, and 11. So I ain't nobody picking him over. It's a

lot of politics that come along with basketball. So Ace Bailey is close to me. Like I got personal information on

Ace Bailey that his camp is my camp. So um a lot of the politics in the sport,

please just pause for a minute. Yeah, we got a ball. I I I I know Jo I I I have no doubt about that. But Joe, you see

what the whole room now we all going to Okay, you know, continue. Well, no, cuz we know we know the agent story, but

they let you go. I thought I don't care what face they make. I want to know what the he about to be serious. So, so you

talking about [ __ ] lives like you talking about some [ __ ] that could affect somebody getting a check. We just want to laugh at you. Oh, that's saying

that you said it was your camp. Like you were part of it. So, um, a lot of basketball be politics.

You left it alone. I'm lost. Go ahead. A lot of the [ __ ] is politics. A lot of

the [ __ ] be based on who represents you and what their um

who likes them. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And so if you don't want to play by old boy rules, then the [ __ ] will

do their best chance to kill everything you got going on. I.e. Shador like it's

get down or lay down. And a lot of times these people be having the ability to put out press stories, etc., etc., to

make you look a certain way or to demonize you a certain way if you don't want to adhere to what they they want

you to do. I'm going to say this, Dylan Harper and Ace Bailey,

two lottery picks. Yes, they did not make the NCAA tournament. Okay, that is

not a good sign. And so I think teams are already questioning certain things. We saw it with Ben Simmons. when with when when teams that have that much

talent don't make the tournament. Can you name two people? Yeah, I know. I'm I'm I'm naming two situations where a

very high pick uh has some questionable playoff success and people start questioning. I'm not crit I don't to be

honest. I didn't watch enough college basketball to have an opinion on this. What I'm just talking about reputationally. I'm just saying that this is adding another layer to it. It

might be I'm not saying it's not political. I don't know. I don't know enough to know. But what I do know is skipping workouts

um is not a good sign when teams are already raising questions about your your your will to win and your leadership and whether you are a

superstar. And I will also say I don't see too many times where two where two lottery picks don't make the don't make

the tournament and they turn out to be elite NBA players.

This is my take. You're talking about 19 year old boys, bro. So when you start talking about somebody's leadership

ability and you start talking about somebody's mentals, again, you you because you're an advocate of them

stamping young black boys and when they stamp you, you never get away from that stamp. So I don't want to perpetuate

some stereotypical thing about a kid that I know personally saying that they not manageable or that they got attitude

issues or they got these other negative things and stereotypes that come across from with them because it carries them

through throughout the duration of their life from [ __ ] that don't know them. So let me let me let me So is he

telling teams I'm not working out for you? No. His representation is his representation and what they decide is

what they decide. What I'm saying is you got to live and die with the choices that you make. But don't put that they

have these behavioral issues or that they stubborn or that they not negotiable because those things like I

said car carry you. Yeah. I'm not saying that. Um because what they did to drop Shador from a first round draft pick to

a [ __ ] fourth round pick. Maybe he shouldn't have been a first round pick though. You might not have not I'm talking about the other Yeah, but ain't

nobody about to say that intangible things. You get what I'm saying? You could go from number three, my [ __ ] You could go from a third pick to a

ninth pick. That might be 20 $30 million based on somebody spreading an untrue narrative about you. Yeah, but but the

best way to solve that would be to show up. Maybe, maybe not. It depends on [ __ ]

be having rational reasons why they don't do certain things when it come to that [ __ ] Then they need to announce that that that's I'm I don't know if you

have the manageable. I don't know anything about No, you can't announce that because that's going to look away to other team. Exactly, [ __ ] Kobe Bryant said, "Yo, I'm not going to

Charlotte. I'm not coming here." He said that. I'm not going to Charlotte. Y'all got to figure something

out. Well, it was a little more complicated than that. The Lakers had already wanted him. Kobe Bryant said, "I'm not going to Charlotte. I'm not

playing." He had already been told by the Lakers that they wanted to trade for him. And you know, and it's the thing. Mad [ __ ] be getting told to these kids

behind closed doors before days leading up to the draft. C certain stories they release, certain stories that they

don't. Okay. So you saying that Kobe Bryant got told X, Y, and Z. They wanted you to know he got told that. I don't

give a [ __ ] what happens, [ __ ] Back then somebody saying, "I'm not going to a team that picks me at number 14." That

was after they drafted him. He still worked out for them. Never mind, bro. No, just listen what I'm saying. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about

the part where you are as a child making demands on me going or playing or not

going to whatever the case may be. Whether you saying yo I'm not going to go work out for you or you saying you

drafted me and I'm not playing for you. I think they in the same vein. I think they're different. I think they're different because one is this one I show

up for everybody or you drafted me I don't want to go there. This one I'm not showing up for you. You you you which

could send a message to the other teams. Right. Got it. that you are just hard to Oh, you ain't even made it yet and you

already said what you're not going to do. This This Yeah, this is all I'm saying. I agree with you. You haven't played an NBA game yet and you saying what you're not going to do. It's every

kid's dream to go to the NBA, right? Just being drafted in the NBA is a

zillion to one odds. So, you get drafted as a 18year-old kid and you say, "Yo, I ain't playing for y'all." [ __ ] you

talking about. I'm not playing for y'all. That sounds crazy, bro. They don't. Actually, the Bengals is going through that now. That's my point. So to

some [ __ ] that sounds insane and to some people they like, "No, I want to take my career into my own hands." With that Bengle [ __ ] I didn't

even know that was a rule. That that homeboy that got drafted and apparently if you don't like the team you got

drafted to, you could reenter the draft next year. Yeah. The next year. Yeah. Yeah. There's a whole big beef right now

because the second round picks are trying to get guaranteed money. God damn right. But what do you do during that

year if you don't like the team in the draft? You stay healthy. you work out all year and get prepared for for the

next and then if you don't like the team that drafts you the second time, then you could sit out and come back as a uh

just undrafted. See, I think I think I think it's a fine line when we sit up here and we talk about, yo, I like for

these people to take their futures into their own hands, right? It's a really fine line because you have to

understand, my [ __ ] you are taking your future into your own hands, but also recognize that you are blessed. But isn't there a way to do it? Yeah. Who

isn't it? Yes. But who determines what's the way? the league, the people that you're trying to No, not the league.

Because then we saying if we going by what the league to people up here, everybody up here preaches this independent thought and this break of

establishment, etc., etc. Shador Sanders did it his way. Some [ __ ] do it

their way. You got to live and die with the consequence. And that's all I'm saying. This is all I'm saying. But but you sitting up here and you was started

demonizing this kid or saying negative things about this I didn't demonize him. All right. What did I No, no, hold on.

What did I say to demonize him? What did I say negative about him? Now, I'm asking you what the hell, but it's cool generally because we had a conversation

off off Mike, too. But it's all right. Yeah. And oh, here's here's what I said. I said he's looking like this. I'm

saying he's making a bad decision. We can disagree about the decisions making. Again, I don't know him. I don't know.

He could be the greatest kid in the world. My fear is that by refusing to

uh work out for the team, he's going to look ostracizing. Yeah. He's going to look like he's not manageable and he's

going to look like a like like he's going to play into bad into certain narratives that are going to be used to justify dropping him. I'm not saying he

is those things. I'm saying it's a bad strategy. Just hear me out. Hear me out. I'm saying it is a bad strategy. And you

ask, is he actually refusing? Yes, that's a fact. He's refusing to work out for certain teams. And I think that's bad. Yeah. I just think it's a bad idea.

Again, it doesn't make him a bad kid. It might be the greatest outcome for him in the world, but I'm saying it doesn't work. the difference to me between what

he did and what Kobe did. Kobe never actually refused to play for the Hornets, but what he did say is he but

what he did say is I only want to play for the Lakers. He still worked out for the Hornets, right? He still um did all

the things you're supposed to do and then quietly behind the scenes after he was drafted. Mhm. Oh, before really his

agents were working and before he was drafted, Jerry West was working before he was drafted. Then immediately after the draft, they traded him, right? Kasha

also going to the Lakers. There was a whole bunch of things happening. But Kobe team managed it in a way where Kobe

didn't look like a bad guy. Whether even if he still did his part, right? That's all I'm saying. There's a way to manage

this so that Ace Bailey doesn't look like he's just a a a stubborn kid who

doesn't want to play because I think and I think his team is doing him a disservice if they're the reason why he's not working out. Again, he might be

the greatest kid in the world. I hope he is. I'm just I'm not demonizing him at all. I just I think that but I think he's just making a bad I think it's a

bad presentation for himself. That's all. I get Ish's passion because like you said, he's close to the family.

Yeah. I don't see Ace Bailey falling to the 11th. I see one to five. I don't I

don't see Ace Bailey in the position where he's about to lose all these millions of dollars. I Ace Bailey probably has the highest upside and damn

near everybody in the draft. I think so, too. That's why I want him to go to the right. NBA is based on potential.

Totally. All right. are part of the show. Tier

18y old is some [ __ ] named Artorio.

Okay, some [ __ ] What up? Some [ __ ] Arttorio says y.

So y'all listen. I got to turn myself in this week and I'm not and I'm not sure

if they're going to keep me. Lame ass New Jersey bail reform. Do y'all hate it

as much as I do? That was in parenthesis. Anyways, Joe, how do you feel about Andy Milanakis not only being

older than you, but also having a more successful rap

career than you? Damn. Hope they free me to hear the response.

Big Jersey love always. Always a Jersey. Now, I would love to know what

jurisdiction you're in. I know any minute I could hear the show on MTV. So I could call the jail myself

and tell Wow. Hello. Tell them

to keep you. Yeah. Yeah. Come on. You about to say some ignorant [ __ ] Super

ignorant. Oh man. The rest of these [ __ ] is mad long. Should I read one? Oh no.

Uh let's see. Craig, peace to the whole P crew. longtime listener here and in the day job I lead go-to market for AI

at one of the world's biggest tech companies. So I figured it's time to drop some ins insider intel for part of the show before the next wave hits

harder than streaming ever did. First the label vers AI fight. Universal, Sony, and Warner are negotiating to

license their cataloges plus grab equity to generative music startups.

the this is the Timberland conversation ultimately uh Udo and Suno

deals that would also wipe out billion dollar copyright suits business times

yet the word artist never appears no reps no splits no approvals so once

again creators risk being spectators while models that can replace them not only distribute them get built not just

distribute them get built here's what creat creators can do. Run every contact

every contract through chat GPT cla or Gemini and redline future technologies

and derivative works loopholes precle samples of your own catalog so

you can legally train a person model a personal model and rapidfire micro songs

for Tik Tok/shorts and bundle AI stems with merch patreon

tears or even fanfacing chat bots so the upside stays in house. He's killing this

[ __ ] Absolutely smoking. Google Deep Minds Deep Mindses VO3 texttovideo model

is already warping virality. It is quote unquote millions of videos generated in

days says CEO Sir Demis Hassabis.

In parenthesis, it says the neuron, comma, with historical/Bible

times influencer skits blowing up so hard, real influencers can now claim to be 100% AI for traffic. For scale,

YouTube sees about 2.6 million uploads uh a day and Tik Tok about 34 million.

But AI made clips AI made clips could soon swamp both, meaning humanmade

content will coexist in an ocean of synthetic competitions. The attention pie isn't getting bigger.

AI is just slicing it thinner. So, every artist and podcaster needs a strategy

and maybe their own tools to keep audiences locked in. I know the pod has

eyes on all industry smoke. This is the next fire. So if you ever want a quick

AI State of the Union, I can send fresh notes whenever you need them. Keep

potting, keep creating, and keep the culture first. CK Oakland, California.

Salute. Salute. I'm getting a round of applause for that world. The real thing

that needs to happen is legislation. like instead of I mean we also need to learn how to play with it but there

needs to be uh legislation on copyright infringement cuz that's all the AI is. It's it's reinterpreting pre-existing

artistic works and that is illegal. I agree but that's us begging, right? No, it sound like what he's saying the

constitution. Yeah. What he's saying is arm yourself and jump in here just in case. That's

why I said I think you we have to do both. But there needs to be legislation and people like us with voices should be

pushing for legislation to happen as opposed to just saying, "Oh, this is big and scary." Or, "Oh, this is the greatest thing. We can make millions of

dollars off it." There needs to be a a change in the legislation. It needs to be altered. I totally copyright law

needs to be amended for AI. What happens when um AI is at a point

where it can just compile all its data and create something on its own? It's

still taking data from pre-existing songs and creating new songs from it. It's still derivative work. But cool.

I'm I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just saying let's say it takes billions, literally billions of different data,

right, and compile something from it. How do you now go to to uh uh uh Washington and say, "Yo, this should get

a payout and this should get a payout and this should get a payout and this should get a payout." This company I've spoke to AI companies that's all

traceable. This is we're talking about data is the same way we talk about streams. Let me finish. All of the information is getting put in there is

traceable. It can be traceable and they can figure out how to divvy up the money. Even even if they don't do that, they can make some blanket licenses that

cover creators in general if your [ __ ] is being thrown in the pool. same way they do with ASCAP or BMI to break up uh

uh uh performance royalties. Isn't that a little bit more definitive? No. The

the the performance royalty when your song is played in a club when it's played in a music stadium or whatever, it's all a big pool that gets divvied up

by percentages. It's not necessarily accurate 100% accurate. This was played

over here, so you get six cents for that. This is played over here. No, they kind of divvied up by total streams. Same way streaming uh companies divvy up

money. They're not. You don't when you press play on Apple Music on uh whatever

uh a Drake song, it's not necessarily going the six cents going directly to that. When they show the little charts of breakdowns, you get 0.001 cents. It's

not necessarily per stream. They It's a pool. They put everything together and divvied up by the numbers of everything being played. So, you can do everything

is data traceable. This is not the old days where it's like, "Oh, I don't know where these ideas came from." No, it's all in a machine. If the machine can do

all these super complex algorithmic things, it can absolutely keep track of where the [ __ ] [ __ ] came from. We got

to make sure to sign is up to Parks' what do we do with AI course that he

has. I don't have those. What are you talking about? Conversation. We should get a course conversation. I know, but

it's a deep one. Yeah. I think I think it's scary. I think it's going to get beyond control. I think it's going to

get to a place where you can't control it. And it's not just it's not just music and art, by the way. It's it's it's written works. It's it's

journalism. It's it affects everyone. I think AI is amazing. I know a lot of

people that are using it for really dope [ __ ] And I think it's it's fine, but there needs to be a way for that pie to

be divied up. This guy that runs Sonos, who I've seen some interviews with, like saying the democratization of art and

all that stuff is awesome, but it's not if it's all just derivative work that's stealing from other people [ __ ] It

should be everyone should make money off this [ __ ] if your [ __ ] is getting used. Yeah.

Yeah. I just don't see how you could really generate income from it. They're generating millions of dollars

subscribers using it. It cost $20 a month to use open I'm talking about the artists. You guys, can y'all please

continue this conversation at another time? Oh, okay. Sure. Is you a protester now, gang? What was that? Not at all.

Did you tell Joe you was going to protest? Not at all. Did you say some slick [ __ ] off mic? Did you not bold

enough to say on mic? You say so. That's a new question. That's a good question. Did you say

something? I'm on a new question. I'm on a new question. Well, you all say slick [ __ ] on though. No, but is say [ __ ] like

I played this little slap. I was looking for outro record. Hey.

Okay, man. The attach is on. Good man. One, two.

Good. [Music]

Hey, you little girl. So then Ish looked to Ice and said

from what I heard from this far away anyway. Okay, I'll tell you if you're correct. Ish looked at Ice and said, "Yo, could you write this?" That is That

is what he said. Ice very promptly said, "No."

Ish didn't say nothing, but I was so befuddled by the question, I asked him if he thought he could write this. And

he did not answer. He just did his rest in his face at me.

So, I'll ask again while the mics is on to see if he got the kahuna. See if he if he got sufficient kahunas.

Do you think that you could do that? Nope. You know they like to. That's right.

That's cower. Build a house in New Jersey. Look at

baby. Go. Why you ask me if I can do it? Colin Cower. Cowardic.

Colin Cowardick. Wow. Yo, you ain't got to play with your kicks while we about to end it. You can

play with your sneakers all day. Men is talking to you. Me and Ice is asking you something cuz you had a lot of slick

[ __ ] off the mic to say or not say. He's Yo, he So could you write it? You gonna be a stubborn ass grandpa. Is that what

I'm doing? Can you ignore the kids? Well, [ __ ] just sit up here. We want you to speak to us about what we asking you. This [ __ ] put the pretend and

pretentious. This [ __ ] Is that what I do? I swear to God. Can you write this or not? Yo, nope. I can't answer.

That's right. But tuck it. Tuck what? Your dick. Why? Jesus. I'm not a rapper.

But if you were, you'd be nipy. But I'm not a rapper. So why you thought

to ask me that? That's what I want to know. I was asking you a question. Nah, the beat the words ain't even dropped

yet. The beat came on and you just like, "Yo, you can write that." Yeah. I was asking don't think it's hard to rap. I

was asking you a question. Is don't think it's tough to rap. He don't I can't ask you a question. Of course you can. That's what we here for. He think

it's easy to rap. Got you. I'm I want to speak for him. My opinion is I'm not I'm not saying I don't think Ish thinks it's

very difficult to rap. No, I think it I think and again I won't speak for him either. I think ish his his style of

hip-hop that he likes is more. No, it's more it's more lyrical, more lyrics. So

when you hear something that's a little bit more All right, so I take it back. I think Ish thinks that the simpler raps

are easy to do. Yes, I think he But he's right here. Why we speaking for the [ __ ] Because he want to play with his

sneakers and fix his [ __ ] muffin shirt and be cute. Cool, [ __ ] Be cute. We'll do it. No, but how can you say

that? Because when he earlier when we played the push a te record, he was like the beat is fire, but what he's saying wasn't uh

No, he didn't say that. He be a tough critic. He wasn't moved by the song. He didn't say like the rap was easy to write. Like he he might have thought it

was complicated to write and still just not like the song. Bro, if you see somebody do something and then I look at somebody who don't do it at all and say,

"Yo, you could do that." No, I feel that's an implication of that's that's simple or that's easy to do. Who the

[ __ ] you think you think that is what they are? Guji down

to the socks like a big [ __ ] Baby, stop picking your clothes in front of us. Yo, maybe that sound easy. That

ain't That ain't easy. Yeah, [ __ ] I just want to tell people listening. Let

me pound. Anyway, stop picking your clothes up. We talking about you. Who the [ __ ] you? Stop cleaning your sneakers when we talking to you, [ __ ]

45. I never seen no. Yo, when I turn 45, you can't do that to me no more. It's going to end different for you.

Honestly, when I talk to you, maybe freeze is something different. When I [ __ ] bro. Slide one of you [ __ ] to

making me. That's what I'm saying. I'm I'm gonna slide one of you [ __ ] You probably do it after I slide him. He's

going to the ground. A triangulation slide. He's going. No. Dead ass. When I

turn 45, lovely. How many months you got to go? You going He got a fifth one. He got a fifth one.

Wait, what up? We at We're in June. When's the end of June? Two, three months. Hurry up. Oh, hurry up, [ __ ]

You going down there with the mopping glove. And where you going to be? You going down standing up, looking over you, helping you up. Yo, see, now you

learned your lesson. Now you learned. Don't do that again. Don't do that again. I know you better change the way

you hold your hands in your stance cuz if you do this [ __ ] you be doing night, [ __ ] That's night.

Antoine.

This is getting interesting. Any boxing mis get better. Why don't you do

a little oneonone? His leg got hurt from a finger roll. He shouldn't engage. Talk

to them [ __ ] Yo, I'm tell I love you. I love you too much. Me and you bing too much. So I ain't going to do I ain't

going to do it to you. But a certain respect level, I think. You know what I mean? Belongs with I take mine September

1st. Don't worry about it. September 1st. What you take? September 1st. I'll be 45. August 31st. All right. Yeah. August 31st. I'll be 45. And I hate to

slide a 50 year old, but some [ __ ] be asking. I ain't 50 yet, so you won't got to feel bad. 49.

Come on boy. I'm talking about [ __ ] I don't know my money on is if you let if you give is three solid. What? How long

you need to get your leg right? Bro, I'm not even Is your leg right? Will your leg right? Will be right. I took money

from Mark before. It's more money. Your money on is [ __ ] It's easy. Easy

money. Are you doing rehab like physical therapy? He do everything. Okay. So that's what I'm saying. I'd say by

September he'll be straight. I say the slide him quick. King really got a He think cuz he stopped eating sugar he

stopped being sweet. That's the problem. He think cuz he stopped eating sugar he stop being sweet.

I don't see him like them I Urbington [ __ ] Jersey City look at them [ __ ] like that. You don't go to Jersey City don't look at them [ __ ] like that. You

ain't from Jersey City. Jersey City don't look at them [ __ ] like nothing like that. And they do. [ __ ] is he talking about? And they do though. You

ain't been here in a while. And where? Jersey City. Not with that. Not with that pink car. I've been here more recent than you. Not in that pink car.

I've been there more recent than you. Not in that pink car. All right. and shot that [ __ ] up. I was just on I gave him the weapon. I was just on ocean. You

was just in a ocean. No, I know. You wasn't on no Jersey since he been to

you, [ __ ] [ __ ] you talking old [ __ ] at these lines. Ain't been going back

since Jersey City been back. I'm saying

go around here with a new [ __ ] at this new [ __ ] See what I'm saying? Gentrification. You go around there. Yo,

you don't tell a [ __ ] He go around here. You laughing. That's [ __ ] up. Slide both for y'all, [ __ ] Joe, slide

where? The only slide you doing is cha electric. All right. Now, we'll be outside of Mr. East. That's it. Sorry.

Sorry. I'm sorry. That's a bad spot for you to try to

don't drive fast enough for you to be outside Mr. East. N got to happen on your birthday, man. Okay. You wearing

your good chain or your bad chain? Are you wearing your good chain or your podcast chain? The one that you be

talking inside the house. You wearing that one. I dare you say you wearing that one. I will have that [ __ ] on. Oh, then I'mma have it on.

Yeah. You going to be with us? You know what I'm saying? [ __ ] any club we in at the same time. I ain't with y'all.

Where you going all your [ __ ] You didn't need an ice to get in the Chris Brown [ __ ] Your cousin show, [ __ ] Watch your [ __ ] mouth when you talk

to me. Y'all got money. I could have bought the tickets. But you didn't. I know. Why would I buy them if I got the Travis? Well, and I got the Travis for

nothing. got you two sets of tickets. Oh, what' you say? Ice got you two sets of tickets. Oh, I didn't use them. I

know. I didn't use those. I didn't go to the night. Y'all went to the little public for public night. I know you went for a public night. I didn't go to uh

general public night. What What you went to? VIP night. Yo, it's okay. You went to VIP night. It's okay. You show the

next night. I didn't go I didn't go to y'all's night. Came to your living room. You went to the Barlay. I didn't go to

y'all night. I know. That's all I'm saying. You don't like Jersey? Oh, Jersey. I got the key to Jersey. What?

What jersey? Uh Newark, Irvington, Jersey City. Um they changed them.

They changed them up. Oh, but I didn't change the key. They changed. But I didn't change a mask on [ __ ] But I

didn't change the key. Take the key over there and see what happens. Yo yo

work. I got street card. I have a street key. I'm on the number blocks every day.

Why you in my face? You said you on the number block. You won't even go to Duncan and they revitalize Duncan. No, I

know. I know you won't. No. Get caught walking back there in the dark if you want. All

right. You got this. You the number streets. Yeah. They like that street key. All you hear is then what? Then

what? Leave her alone. Leave her alone. Leave

her alone. Leave her alone. Leave her alone. Leave her alone. Leave her alone. Keep your phone in your pocket, [ __ ]

Leave her alone. Yo, she didn't mean it. She didn't mean it. He had the phone

right there. Keep your phone like this. Let it be the 1 v2 or the one v one. I

mean, discount. You know what I mean? There we go. Y'all so stupid, man. I

hate y'all. Listen, man. Hopefully y'all have enjoyed this

podcast as much as we have enjoyed delivering it to you. If you have not, save your tweets. We'll be back. We'll

be back. Same time, same place. Nobody's leaving. Nobody's getting fired. I know.

The AdSense check, the think pieces. Oh, who's suspended?

Hey, we'll be back. Same time, same place, same game. They be going crazy in there. Keep us in

your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there until shipdoo. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we

need we need to be there. Until the next time we bid you a do farewell. Adio

vista arvois. So long. Goodbye. Sometimes a simple head now will suffice. Remember life is a series of

moments and moments pass. So let's make this one last as if it's

all we have. Junth. Junth. Junth. Junth

coming up. Junth. Four hours pass. Nobody said nothing but we pro black. Junth, man. That's my birthday. Junth.

[ __ ] June. Wait. [ __ ] what? No, I'm not saying [ __ ] I thought you said I have a different I have a different hierarchy

of that day. Okay, that's all. What go? Your birthday? Cio. No. Then liberation.

Columbus Day. You got plans. July 4th. I got plans.

Christmas. I got mansion. No. Black day. I see what you doing. He's important.

This is important. Shout out to Ice for his birthday. Yo, if you in Houston on Junth, Houston is

having a great June team celebration. I'll be there uh 5:00 p.m. Make sure y'all come through. Celebrating.

Where in Houston? The city of Houston. I don't have it off the top of my head, but the city of Houston Junth celebration. If you're in Houston,

you'll know where it is. Trying to link. I'm not. I'm just saying if you want everybody to come out, you kind of got

to give them a location. Yeah. If you in Houston, you know it's a city Houston Junth. It's a citywide celebration. I just don't know the exact location.

Yeah. If they know if they out, they know. Don't worry. It's a big deal out there. Yeah. What you got going on for Junth?

I feel like you might already know. Well, I don't know nothing you can do

outside of that. Yo, when you're not sitting next to me, I don't not only don't I know I don't

give a [ __ ] what you do outside of this job. Why would I know that, but I want

to know. But I want to know. Because you're nosy and you know a lot of [ __ ] that you shouldn't know. And that's why

I said that. Well, I don't. Sometimes information just comes to you whether you want it or not. So, what are you

doing? I'm just I'll be in the neighborhood. You know what neighborhood? All right. What

neighborhood, Mr. Rogers? This neighborhood. There's an event happening in Are you

going to live life after? Yeah. Oh, they booked. They did not. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

[Music] Oh god. I hate when this happens. I hate when this happens. Listen. No. I really

hate this. I hate when this happens. Oh my god, man. Remember the other day? Sorry. We went downstairs when she No,

you got she be doing some wild [ __ ] here. Yo, this lady is different. She made she made friends. Remember is she

went to the other side of the building and in the elevator. I said, "Where you

where you going?" They said, "Yo, come upstairs." I I'd be knowing people. I know how. No,

you don't. I do. Ma'am, what are you doing on Junth? I will be in the neighborhood. Just tell

us. life after doing what? Hanging out with everybody else. What? What? What

event? Doing a party over there. Yeah, they're doing an event party. Yeah. Dope spot.

He about to call. Look, he about to call. Look, I'm going to ask you one last time before I find out on my own.

He'll call that [ __ ] This is my very last and I'm doing it on air. Please, ma'am. So, I'm going to ask you for the

last time. What are you doing in life after? There's an event happening there. Okay.

What's the name of the event? I don't know. I tried it your way. I tried it your way. Never. I'm not getting into

all that. I ain't going to blow it up. Put me over. I promise. Blow up. You're not going to blow up. You're so mean.

I don't know why we got to do this the long way, man.

Oh, can I see

her? Yo, get my phone. Yo. Oh, yeah. Oh, this

is Joe Button. This is Joe Button. Take the rat train, my [ __ ] This is Joe Button from the Joe Button podcast. I'm

live on air. Don't say nothing incriminating for you and your beautiful family. How are you doing? All right, I

got it. What's up? How are you doing, O? I'm good, Joe. What's going on? Do you

do you happen to have an event at uh at your beautiful establishment on Junth?

Yes. Can you tell me about it? Cuz I asked a few of my co-s and they were tight

lipped about it. [Laughter]

Nah, I got Leroy Hawkins here on June 19th

doing spoken word. Butterfly

butterfly Chicago PD thing. Oh, I heard

of him. We all did. Yo. Oh, you are a good brother. You're good. Shout out to

one of my one of my favorite people I've met recently. And thank you for letting me know that

you got Leroy Hawkins of Chicago PD coming to do some spoken word at your

We said it already. Oh, we ain't going to do that to you.

Life brother at life after. Hey, this the freebie. The first one is free.

That's why I love you. Oh man, I'll see you soon, man.

Appreciate you, bro. It's good to meet I met you on Friday. All right, it don't matter. I met him on Friday. I said I was going

to thank you for the for the hospitality. I was just about to thank the brother

for the hospitality. I went had a great time there. No, it was a great time. All right, now let's try this. Your turn

time. Girl, you don't know your lesson, girl. Didn't that [ __ ] post some [ __ ] girl. All right, I'm I You know what?

You got to [ __ ] learn. Learn what? Leave. Let this [ __ ] go. You don't Everything No. Everything free and good.

Everything free and good. You guys have had your fun. Everything from McDonald's is good. Had your fun. Okay. You guys

have had your free the [ __ ] down. You my sister. Come on. No. Don't touch me. Lift every voice and sing.

God damn. Go to church. [ __ ] big mama would have slapped you a long time ago. You going back to [ __ ] Have your fun.

Go ahead. Have your fun. Go ahead. Talk to her, [ __ ] For what? He doesn't need to talk to me about [ __ ] You are an

idiot. Put me in my place, man. He does not need to talk. Glad you like. Beautiful spot, wonderful restaurant, great food. Had a great time there. You

I ain't going to lie, man. They can't [ __ ] with you. Yo, what's wrong with you? Can't get too far. Look, that's what the other [ __ ] did. He did a He

did a little crawl rabbit on the floor, [ __ ] The Michael Jackson crawl. I'mma break your [ __ ] practicing for

football on Patreon over there called stupidity money. You got them

[ __ ] all coming. Oh my god. Get what you Thank you. Can we The baddies are We're ending this

podcast after the hook. [ __ ]

Don't give me hype. Stop. They got to update that song. Yo, please stop. Don't look at me and give me hype. It's a

little different. If your girl knows, she not she going to do some other [ __ ] I It's a good thing Mel does not have

six brothers. Them [ __ ] What? That's not true. Patronies. I mean

um I mean everybody the free [ __ ] You

free [ __ ] Hopefully y'all enjoyed this yada yada yada yada

voice. Yo,

you don't even make it tough though. No, don't say that. That's That's No, no, I'm not talking about that. I'm

talking about like when you get away like you supposed to act now. I got plans that night. I don't know. She going like this. She'd be right there.

She like, "No, don't chase me." She be at the airport. She run place. Don't chase me. She picking them up. She You

want to hold a car?

[ __ ] [ __ ] Don't touch me. Don't touch her.

[ __ ] like pepper. No. What? Snapchat.

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