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Enjoy the show. You better save, buck. cuz she need a man.

She got the grease on. Boy, man got a leather jacket in the summer. Girl, who you trying to impress? It's too hot. It

is too hot for a leather jacket, Bill. Okay, listen. I I I think it's time. It looks nice though. Thank you. But often

times the air conditioning in here gets a little I agree with Parks and everybody listen

to me. The sneakers. She's not dressed herself. Hey yo, Mark. She's not dressing herself. She puts the

whoever matches her. They put it on. She takes the picture and she tags them. I caught her in real time. You so did not.

When's the last time When did I do something like that? Them [ __ ] fancy ass Florida sneakers when the [ __ ] dressed you with that [ __ ] outfit. Excuse my language. Not dressed.

Nobody dressed. Let him know you got him. You got him. Joe can't stop it. Nobody dressed me. I guess nobody

dressed mail flip. But she got them. She didn't go buy those, boy. I absolutely did. Would you like to check my my

purchases? My my credit card purchases. I for one don't think that we should center Mel right now. I think I agree.

It's okay. I'm good with that. Even though I did I did see your girl last

night. Damn, man. How'd you I want to send her mail now.

I announced it to Too soon. All right, we'll wait. We'll wait. But you getting sent at some point. She was She was lit

last night. I was chilling last night. I was chilling last night. Got the

shades on. Yo, I got to stop sleeping on dude now, too. Hold up. Hey, I see why

you chasing him around. He bought him out. Hey. Hey. Loy had it packed. I can't lie to you. I ain't no hater.

I'mma tell. I'm going to give it to you like it is. We got to stop sleeping on homeboy. All right. Say no more. We got to stop

sleeping on shout out, bro. We'll talk about it. But yeah, I was shocked. I

didn't know. I didn't know. I don't watch that [ __ ] Watch no [ __ ] fire truck show. What that show was about? Chicago PD

the fire watching. No, they got Chicago PD, Chicago Fire. All of them don't. Are

they better than Bond albums? I don't know. Bond albums going to tell

me going to paint the picture for me from the other side. From the other side. Oh, that's crazy. Mel had the

patent leather pants on. I did not. I had a patent leather skirt on.

M. That might not help the case. I mean, what it was? Everybody was, you know,

the dress code was black. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. I came in with my little pajama sweatshirt. You got You

got the call this weekend, didn't you? The call. Got the call. You got the call this week from What you mean? Yo, you know you've been going a little hard

with She gave you that call. She used to give

it to me, too, boy. Ignore that. Ignore that. This [ __ ] said this [ __ ] said, "Oh,

yep. I'm I agree with Mel. I agree with that [ __ ] said I agree with Mel 77 times." And I know how to call start.

You got a call. I didn't get Hello, Mel. She started to do that big breath.

So stupid. You got the call. I did not get a call. You might have got the call. We'll know in about 20 minutes. I I got

to start talking to you this morning. Oh, in person. I got I got the in person. The face to face. Yeah. Damn.

press people at one. I didn't press I'm joking. I'm joking. I just feel like Mel

needs support up here and I don't feel like she gets you feel support. I always feel like I always support Mel. Oh yeah.

I stand with Mel. You didn't get the two hours and nobody else. Huh? Two hours.

Two hours. What's the call? There's no call. Okay. Hey, if you got the Ian with Mel call, [ __ ] your whole attitude be

different. [Laughter] Christopher Reed. Sorry. Jesus.

I'm in my bag today. What you can't see Fox

family be listening though. Salute. Christopher Reed's family. As soon as you say something about somebody up

here, they family is listening. They family send it right over to [ __ ] Michael J. Fox. You can't

even make no more. You can't make no jokes. Can't. He's right. He joked back with Ice Wall, didn't he? He did. Who?

Michael J. Fox. Mhm. Yeah. I asked him if he was going to do the mannequin challenge. And he responded back says shaking my

head. I was like, that's funny. I mean, was he being funny? Of course he

was. He's my He makes fun about that all the time. Okay. Okay. I trust his wit. Okay,

that's good [ __ ] But why would you tweet that guy now? It's better than the other one I had in mind. No, I What was it? Nope. Nope.

Okay. All right. Do you know what it is, Mark? No, but whatever it is, if it's worse than that, right? Yeah, it was it

was worse. It was You can't make fun of [ __ ] when they sick, right? I mean, it's not supposed to do that. Unless

Unless Unless they start it. Unless y'all are friends and you know it's okay. It's poor taste. He doesn't.

Unless they cut you off in traffic and they don't have tents. So you looking at him looking, hey, you [ __ ]

[ __ ] Yeah, you cannot say no. No, we bringing that back. No. Yeah, I ain't going to lie. I saw guy yesterday.

Yeah. No. So I was at I was in I was in Houston and it was a talent show and in

between in the middle of the talent show they had a a break and the DJ I videotaped it. Mark, I I think I went to

edit all of this out. Okay, you know, I leave it alone. No, no, no, no. I got questions. So the DJ started playing his

music and then he got off. He took off his goggles and his helmet. He goes to the middle of the floor and says, "I

want to dance and naturally I took out my video camera. Can I see it?" Yeah, I'll send

it to you. Thank you. No, you definitely can't record them. Can't do that. You can do it. You just can't post it. It

goes against at the moment, bro. No, but the crazy thing is he starts getting it.

Yeah, it moves. They have a special power for when you recording them. They know. So then they start cutting a rug.

Yo, this [ __ ] they know when it's a special sense they got. He got

You ain't ever been in a party and [ __ ] start getting it. Oh, I'm sorry, Parks. Uh, let's think of another word

to say cuz this is a good topic. This the different bad. You ain't been a

party and the different [ __ ] start busting his moves. He was practicing in the room and then it' be a different

girl too. You start shouting, "Go ahead. Go ahead. He Go ahead. He's scooping them up. All right, forget it. I'm

showing it to Ice right now. I did actually once have that in a note. What?

I was at a wedding once and they brought out a a a disabled individual. That's not appropriate either, I don't

think. Okay. In like on the dance floor. Them [ __ ] got radios, [ __ ] They listening. Shut

up. I'm down with They got something. What? They got you. They always got them headphones. Freeze. What you say?

Freeze. You can make sick jokes. I just heard you. Yeah, we know you down with them. Yeah, but I All right. No. All

right. Thank you for saying real quick. I've lost my train of thought. I was just wondering if it's [ __ ] uh if

it's if it's right. It's wrong. It's it's seems a little bit seems a little foul. Yeah, I think so. I'm sorry. Flip.

Don't be my [ __ ] You ever go dab him after the dance? He jump and dab. That's what I'm saying. You're right.

Y'all don't have enough uh discourse with the community or enough c not to use all of the wrong words so we can

have the conversation cuz it is a good conversation. But what is the right word now? Handycapable.

That can't be the right word. That can't be right. I I I think that was a freestyle or you

dead for real. I am serious. Yes, cuz she'd be right about these [ __ ] Yeah. Anybody

we'd be laughing at. She'd be dead ass. Well, I mean I I believe that like um

that would also be considered a handy cap of special needs. Exactly. So handy capable. So you're mentally handy

capable. You're saying the person would say like it seems that's Yeah, I can't

do that. That's too wordy. The term handycapable is generally

considered an outdated and often offensive eupheism for disabled which is also the term should be

intellectual disability. That's what I thought it was. Okay, there we go. All right. I heard Patty cable in the 80s on different strokes. It's hard to keep up.

Okay. They develop a new term that is PC and appropriate every 5 minutes. I vote.

They say this whole pod outside of Mark is intellectually disabled. That sound

like it applied. We need a different term.

Uh I [ __ ] with them [ __ ] out there call me out in the street. Intellectually disabled.

That's too many syllables for you to even think you could get off in front of me. I ain't going to hold you.

Something got to happen. Mhm. All right. I found some little take that

calls people [ __ ] and I totally agree. So, I'm playing it. A take has never hit me harder.

Let's see. Where is this take? Mel, you be in my phone. You be in my computer.

You break all types of privacy rules. Okay. I'm sorry.

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Flip and Mel. Mel Mel. What episode is this? 8:36. Welcome to episode 836 of

the Joe Button podcast. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, highly favored. Happy to be here. Host Joe Button. Here

with some really amazing people. Gang, gang, gang. To my right. You know the vibes. You know the legend. You had a TV. Hopefully when the box was out, you

seen the video before. Melissa Ford is in the building. Stop playing with him. Stop playing with him. Queens flip.

Queens get the money is in the building. Stop playing with him. Stop playing with him. And he outside too. Say something. He on what you want. Tell him. I love

when you go learn some young slang. Come on. Come back. Bring it to us. Come on. He on what you want. I'm outside. You know. Yeah. Yeah. My ball is at home.

Huh? Stop. And my ball is at home. Her ball is at home. Yeah. My ball changed

up like my baby. Shout out my baby. We can tell.

We can tell we still here. Shut up. Look at is my ball is at home.

What? Remember the joint like they said my ball is considered Antoine is here.

Y'all make some noise. Old ass [ __ ] Antoine is still in the building, man. Uh King King of

Elizabeth, Mr. Birthday man himself, Mr. Take it Further. Freeze is in the building. Happy birthday. Happy

birthday. Happy birthday, Freeze. Thank you, gang. Uh, brother Mark Lamont Hill is here with us. Make some noise. Fresh

off the fly. Fresh off sleeping on a dirty airport floor looking as tired as

could be. You're threetime powder of the month guy, huh? That's how much I love the people, man. I'm here anyway. Yeah,

that's your aderole dealer making a killing. I wish what it is. Anybody got some [ __ ]

Can't say that. You can't. Oh, why you can't say that? It's good. Streets know [ __ ] is making a [ __ ] killing off

that you crazy. They making a kill on a bunch of [ __ ] I don't have none.

Oh, no interrupt, [ __ ] Anyway, big box to the bed.

Uh Po is here, Trey is here, Cory is here, Erikson is here, Savon and Tanner are here by remote last, but certainly

not least, each and every one of you guys are here. Don't forget this episode is brought to you by, fueled by, powered

by, funded by Prize Pits. Prize Pits Gang. How's everybody doing? How y'all feeling? What's popping? Feeling good,

man. Feeling good, man. Feeling good. Take that off, [ __ ] It's kind of hot. I was I was wondering. We as well take that off. Shit's going to fly though. I

like that. Well, thank you, Parker. Appreciate that. Rich. Feels good, man. It's Friday. The rich

the rich look. Yeah. Yeah. That's expensive. All right. Yeah. Center him. Center him.

Y'all done? Who should we center? Nobody. It's Friday. We are here. We're happy. It's good to see everybody. Yeah.

Hey, [ __ ] Smile. Smile, ho, man. This is summer. Okay. It is a summer finally.

Yeah. And I'm happy to see. No, it's not. Hell yeah. It's about to be 100° next week. It's next week will be

summer. Oh, like weather Saturday. I'm not talking the last two weeks [ __ ] been walking

around. Oh, it's rain. It's summer. I'm like, no, it ain't. You believe in constructs.

Saturday is officially summer. I know that summer ain't the beginning of June and then these [ __ ] think it lasts

till mid October. Man, we know our real calendar. Summer is Memorial Day to Labor Day. That's summer. That is the uh

That's summer. Yeah, right. For the blacks. Yes. I don't care about all that. What day in

June? Memorial. Yeah. For us. For when you Oh [ __ ] The blacks.

You people. You mean us? We got We got you. We got you in real time, [ __ ] We

got him. He hate that he blast you down, [ __ ] I hate that. I'm I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm

joking. I'm joking. I'm joking. Don't play with us. I'm joking. I'm joking, man. Jesus. [ __ ] from Tallahassee. We'll call you, [ __ ] What's up with

y'all? [ __ ] Feel good. What y'all want to What y'all want to start arguing about or debating about? We're giving

information about, learning about. We can jump right into where we left off. Bill Boys Top 25. Patreon. We did that.

But I'm not mad. They announced uh uh the last 26 last If they're not subscribed to Patreon by now, they

should. That's true. Subscribe to the Patreon. Uh that was a good conversation, too. It really It really

was. Uh and shout out to all the new people over there. I wasn't mad at the 3 and 1/2 hours last night. That's the first time I went mad at it. Yeah. Yeah.

Good. Okay. Okay. Doing too much now, [ __ ] Uh anyway, parking like cussing

Joe out. Wait, what happened? I be in the parking lot cussing you [ __ ] out. parking lot to the car. That's a lot.

How often does that happen? Not very. Not very. It's not quite that late, though. Right. It's different than what you told me, but I I I accepted it.

There you go. Yeah. What? I told you. Oh, man. We had 6 6:30 most days.

Well, that's normally true. That hasn't been true in a very long

time. Long time. Normally might mean something different to you. That's actually Okay. I'm sorry. That's actually the rarity. I'm sorry. Y'all

are right. I'm wrong. What I meant to say is that normally happens when the

day runs like it's supposed to run. Shade. Also not true. But that's not true. For real. What? He did the same

thing when he had videos in the tuck. If [ __ ] runs smoothly, he wants [ __ ] He wants to keep going. That's him, [ __ ]

He gets a bang for his buck. When we had videos in the tuck and he promised us, yo, if we had five in the tuck, that [ __ ] can take a day off. 10 [ __ ]

Tuesday, Thursday, Thursday. He was dropping two Patreons. We come

here looking at him to Joe. What's up? The people love it. They eating outside. That's his [ __ ] man. You can't pay

attention. Listen, for me, this show is a blessing. The people that the the complaints, the

people that reserve the right to complain are the coal miners, the teachers that are teaching our kids

right now. The firefighters, the firefighters out there. uh the police that are trying to

make the streets safer. Like I come in here and talk with my friends for a living. There's nothing to complain

about. Like these are my I love y'all. We love you too. Nothing to complain about for me. Love you too, Joe. Anyway,

he's so full of [ __ ] Billboard put out the list. That [ __ ] need to

write a billboard. Let's go ish. Get that good boy. We

ain't going to let the [ __ ] slide. Get him. rapper boy extraordinaire. Billboard put out a list 75 of the

greatest R&B acts in of all time. So, we went through the list and now they've

just put out the final 20 26. I went I'd like to start this topic with

an apology cuz I watched it back. I maybe was a little hard on Aaliyah.

I maybe was hard on Aaliyah. Yes, y'all's hard on a few people. I agree. I

think she should be on the list. I just think she should be a lot lower on the list. That's my position. She was at 40. I think that's insane. Yeah. Leah in the

40s is insane. Well, ahead of Dion Warick comparison to a lot of the people that were in the 60s and the 70s, you

know, that but like but like but like Free said, you know, the criteria is what's important. I don't see no criteria where she makes where there's

where she's in the 40s. Impact again, I don't see it. Oh, no. Her impact was definitely major. No, no, but I'm saying

her impact isn't so high that it trumps all the other the other five below her. Yeah, she might still be ahead of a

couple people. Yeah, I have to go back and look, but she she was impactful like

Romeo must die. No, I'm talking about like the kind of everyday girl R&B

singer vibe that still is today. There was other criteria on that list though.

There was, but she had hits too. Like she had some of I just was a piece of like I just don't think she has the

album that puts her in the 40s. No. Got it. Okay. I see what you're saying. accolades. This is it's other like again

we go off of that criteria. And rest in peace Ayah.

Yeah. We're not going to do that. Yeah. Let's get to the top 10. Let's do it. No. Can I Can I remind people what 25

down? Cuz we stopped we left off at 26. 26. All right. So you want to do 25 down?

Yeah. So basically we'll start at 25. We could fly through it. All right. 25.

Patty Leel. That's fair. Hard to be bad at that. Mhm. 24 Bill Withers.

Yes. 23. Teddy Pendergrass. Mhm. That's a little crazy. I thought he would have

been higher. This whole run I feel like is a little crazy. Oh yeah. It gets a

little tricky. Well, not trick. Crazy as hell. I feel like when we listen to the rest then we'll probably You may get

this perspective. Yeah. Keep it going. I'm not going 22. Luther Vandross. We got to interrupt now. Yeah. Right here.

Them two. Teddy and Luther. Teddy and Luther. need to be never heard that high in love two crazy 21 Donnie Hathaway

20 Otis Reading that's this whole run is tough for me but go ahead 19 Smokeoky

Robinson 18 Al Green

17 Janet Jackson 16 Mary J Blige

I live with that I live with that over to some of them other names that

was in the 25 down. Teddy Luther should be higher. Teddy to me is right where he should be. And I'll tell you why. Only

because of that again that group versus individual dynamic. If you start counting Harold Melvin in the blue nodes, there's no way he should be

there. Yeah. And that's and then and from what we've seen in the 26 to 75, a

lot of those people, they didn't exclude their group work. Cuz if they excluded some of their group work, they wouldn't even be on the list. And that's why the

the list is a little janky to me because I was like sometimes I agree with you. It seems like you're only there because of these these things. The impact that

you made with these groups. Yeah. Okay. Uh 15, Isaac Hayes.

14, Curtis Mayfield. Okay. 13. Sam Cook.

Yeah. We cool. 12. Usher. Sam Cook don't go before a lot of them

names from 17 to 23. I feel like I feel like we could swap

their 12-6 with 17 to 22 and nobody would blink.

Curtis Mayfield, um, Isaac Hayes, no disrespect. I would take Teddy P and Luther and put them and swap those

numbers. I probably would, too. I would swap those numbers without a problem. Same. Oh, okay. Okay. So, that was 12.

Um, 11. Ray Charles. I was thinking about his name on the drive home. He's another tricky one because of all the

crossing of genres. Well, a lot of this is tricky genre crossing to be honest with you, but we'll get to that in a

bit. You can't put Ray Charles 11 and Smokey Robinson at 19. What was he 19? I

think I don't think there's that much space between them two unless you start talking about Smoky and Miracles. I

don't know what they're counting as individual versus. And not only that, Ray Charles. I would put Smokeoky higher. Yeah. And not only that, like

Park says, there's a lot of like cross genre stuff that Ray Charles is where Smokey is. Yeah. He's R&B. His whole

career is R&B basically. And in the 1950s when they started making race records, I mean, the idea of a race

record, some people call it soul, some people call it R&B, some people call, you know, I mean, I don't know. I I don't even know what R&B means anymore

given all the people in this in this. Yeah. You know, so sorry, Ray. It felt

like old school race records rules. Yeah. Yeah, as far as defining the genre here. That's what it seems like. Yeah.

All right, we at the top 10. Number 10, Marvin Gay. Marvin Gay. Whoa. What's low? I expected him higher. I thought I

thought he would have been higher. I thought Al Green would have been higher, but would you keep going? Yeah. Nine R.

Kelly. Kelly. No. Planet is R. Kelly. Respectfully higher than Marvin Gay. Except maybe Earth. No. Parks, you have

a fight, huh? you're you would have a fight like if you if you if you pulled the masses that's not as cut and dry. I

think it's generational. That that could be I think it's generational. I think I really listened. Yeah. You always say that. Yeah. Cuz I I I I would have had

R. Kelly like number five. Just off the top of my head without looking at the list if I just had to pull a number. But

when I see who's above him, I can't get that mad at him. I wouldn't have had him at five. I would have had him about seven. I would have had him kind of

where he is. I would just would have had Marvin Gay higher than D. Kelly. Yeah. I had Marvin Gay in my top three. Oh, personally and that's where it gets

tricky, right? Cuz for some people, Chocolate Factory was a genre field change. I think that what's going on is

a top five album period of all time. I feel about that. I feel a TP2

TP2 really good album. They're past really

good albums. What's going on is like Joshua Tree Love Supreme albums ever made. Yeah, man. All the little kids

once once you get out of here. Once you get out of here, it is

I think R. Kelly has a a top five, six discoraphy in R&B. I'm I'm in agreement.

I think you got one. Excluding excluding no one. Yeah, I'm in agreement. Yeah, I I can't I would never put

I would never put him No, the top three is still for me. Stevie Well, I'm speaking. Okay. Um, number eight, Mariah

Carey. I'm not putting Mariah above R. Kelly. I don't know what Billboard says. I don't care what Billboard says. I'm

not I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad at that. I love Christmas like everybody else, but I'm not. Yeah, but mainly And

that ain't even R&B hit. Yeah. Mainly. Exactly. Mariah, there's a lot of like pop in her disc. A lot. Yeah. Like like

when I think of dream lover, just as an example, what do we what do we classify that? The best thing about Mariah is that she often remixed a lot of her her

poppy hits and made them put you talk about Vision of Love and all that other [ __ ] And if you going to put some of

these other people that hack cross genre music, you can't exclude

her. Agreed. So when you don't exclude her and you put her in there, if we're going to put Michael Jackson in any of these lists, you have to put something

funny about you got to put Mariah Carey. Put Mariah above above R. R. Kelly. That seems crazy to me. I am I'm not putting

either. I think they should be I think they should be close. She's definitely not above Marvin Gay. No, y'all. Continue. Freeze. Uh, seven is Prince. I

think that's too high. I think that's too low. But I mean, that's my bias. That's your bias. Again, some of that

[ __ ] ain't R&B. Prince's best sh ain't R&B to me. I guess that's why I'm I think Prince is right. What would you consider it? Funk. Funk. Yeah, it's a

lot of funk. A lot of funk. It's not It's almost more New Wave than it is funk. Although New Wave has elements of

funk. Funk, right? So, but I wouldn't it just wouldn't I just wouldn't think R&B when I hear it. When I think of Prince's

biggest hits, do you think they're I mean, would you consider them R&B hits?

Not all the way, but I also the next name on the list I don't necessarily fall too a little bit. James Brown.

James Brown is number six. R&B. I don't know. You're not wrong, but I hate I just love James Brown. I love James

Brown, too. I'm I'm cheating for James Brown. The way you were just saying like for Prince like it. This just bring me

back to the question. I would love to ask all of them at Billboard, what is R&B? Yeah. Right. Right. Like I think if

we got a a definite answer from that, some of this will start make more sense cuz I I don't know it when you got James

Brown hired in some of these other names. They didn't write on an R&B list. They didn't write ahead of the list like

you know just a little blurb as to what was what thought process went into

creating this list. Not just they did the criteria but not what constituted R&B. Yeah. Like we all had this conversation about you know what R&B

actually means. You know the definition of it. It would be interest. They should have done that. R&B is like middle class. This is one of things where

everybody has a different idea of what it means and everything goes in. They're just throwing everything in. It would be

hard though cuz think about this like if you had a Michael Jackson album that had 12 songs, three of those songs could be

R&B. Six of them are pop, right? Whatever other breakdown you have, but then why is pop not R&B to yo? I that's

what I'm saying. I don't understand. I think pop stands for popular music. I think pop is uh over I think anything

could be pop. You can have pop hip hop. You can have pop R&B. You could have pop rock. You could have That's fair. So if

the album sell goes diamond, you don't say, "Yo, but those four songs was only R&B." You give him the accolades from

that particular project. So you can't really divvy it up like that. I I think when I say pop, I don't just mean in

terms of the cuz I agree pop could be anything, right? Not like us as pop at this point, right? I mean, at that level, but I think when I think of a pop

sound, I think about stripping away certain musical elements from it that makes it feel less strip away some of the soul like like Michael Jackson like

like Off the Wall is a is a R&B or soul album. Mhm. It's a disco album. And it's a disco album, right? For sure. Um, Off

the Wall is literally a disco song. But I'm saying by is R&B to me. Yeah, it is. But by the time you get to like

bad, you know, to me that doesn't feel I don't feel soul in that. I don't feel soul in those records in the same way. I

feel soul. I'm over I'm being a little I'm overstating a little bit. But I guess my point is it if it it feels less

and less R&B with each hour. You don't feel the soul in your butt is mine.

There's so many ways I can respond to that. I feel like I feel like pop music is is just like it's an automatic blend

of a whole bunch of things. You know what I mean? Like how um bad is has elements of rock to it, has elements of

soul to it. It has just different elements of genres to it. So that's like I mean pop when I think pop, I think

Taylor Swift, you know what I mean? That's what I think as a pop as a pop artist because what else? What else is

she going to be considered? She could be considered folk or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. but not everything. Okay. So, what's the top? All right. Um, we at

the top five. Whitney Houston, not mad. Beyonce, not mad. Michael Jackson, I'm

mad. Keep going. You want Aretha Franklin, that's the one we we [ __ ] And number

one is Stevie won. Yeah, we forgot Artha. Who forgot Artha? I mean, she was

making none of us like mention her as being a top three choice. Yeah, there's a reason why she don't belong. Tha

Franklin is not a top three choice. You're out of your mind. I know. I know. That's That's crazy. Tell me why. Please

tell me why. Because of all the names that we just read. That's why she's not. You can honestly swap her in R. Kelly

spot. No way. I'm just talking about you could put her at nine and put and put

Franklin at nine. Nobody bat tonight. Nobody would say that. No, I think I mean she's I I would I would I'm mad I

didn't say it back the other day. I mean Franklin to me is probably the greatest singer of the 20th century. Um, and she

usually gets voted as such. But if you look at her catalog, it's insane. It's insane. If you start with, I think it

was 67 or 68 with the uh with Columbia Records, all all those all those covers, all that music she did, which would fit

in R&B if we count on Eda James. She she bodied all the jazz stuff. Then you get to like 1970, 1971, where she starts

with Atlantic Records. That run in Atlantic Records is one of the greatest runs we've ever seen. I mean, of of just

of top music. If that's your argument for Artha, then there's no way that she should be above James Brown. Oh, I think

she's cooking James Brown. Oh, I thought you got because she got more she got more decades of it and herself is squarely in the genre more to me than

James Brown is. And everybody I take myself out of that genre bending argument. Okay, fair enough. Take the

genre been off argument off the table. The other thing for me is everybody we mentioned she's taken it work remade embodied it which for me is also a sign

of I mean you got Otis Reading but she takes respect and makes makes it a song that Otis reading that's unrecognizable. So what so what did Whitney Houston do?

She another one that the top five that what? She another one that can get out the top five. She need to get you lower,

right? I just think there's some picks where you lose a little bit of blackness even saying some of this [ __ ] out loud.

Like James Brown not being a top four act is I don't understand that. I'm with

you. If he's there, it's like anybody putting Stevie anywhere outside of

number one. I'm just not going to understand. I think is right under Stevie. To me, Artha's right under Stevie. If Stevie would have been

outside the top three, then it's blasphemy. I wouldn't have argued if he was number two. I wouldn't have argued

if he was number three. I think Artha and James should be pretty close to each other, which they are in this. So, I'm not I'm not entirely mad at that.

Although, I wouldn't have maybe had her second. Yeah. Artha Franklin second. From 1960s to her

last hit was Roses and Rose, right? That was the last big hit. Not talking about that river in the deep [ __ ] I mean you talking about you talking about six dec

you talking about five decades six decades of of of R&B music and all these number ones all I mean she is the

template but you see what get me about that like you said even when we had the conversation previously you forgot Artha

like them ones that's 1 2 3 4 5 you don't forget them you don't forget them they don't even slip your mind [ __ ] I

didn't even think about that you see what I'm saying like them ones that's them now the block with I mean we said

in the combo I just her name. Then that's even work. Then that's even

worse. No, it doesn't. That's proven. That speaks volumes that her impact wasn't to the point where it was undeniable that Artha Franklin would be

in Stevie name came up. It was like his name came up. Stevie Mike Jame. We

forgot Ray Charles too. Ray Charles didn't come. I don't know if we said James Brown. We said we

part of it is because I don't say when when you say R&B singer, the word doesn't come to my mind. I think why? Because I think of soul. It's not it's a

genre thing and but this is a much broader net. I didn't think of Michael Jackson for the same reason but the room did you everybody in this room's name

tossed around Michael Jackson's name talked around tossed around James Brown's name Beyonce Whitney Houston

people talked around I mean tossed around certain names Franklin's name never came up

is what I'm saying but it also speaks to her impact and what it means to us in our age group. Yeah, but and so and I

said this might be generational, but I don't think there's an argument against Artha being at least top three. I don't think there's a legitimate argument for not being top three. I I can't see it.

Not with R. Kelly being nine for me. I'm sorry. I don't think they in the same planet. What? I think they only become on the same planet. We talking about

songwriting and things like that. I'm talking about music and albums and Yeah. Artha has way more albums, way more

music, way more, you know, impact. I mean, she's so impactful that nobody

Give me Give me your top four most impactful records. impactful. Yeah. Um that's a that's

respect. Of course. Respect is number one. Uh impactful. Think. Yeah. I I

wouldn't say think. I would say um Never Loved a Man because when that came out that Bside of Never Loved a Man and um I

think it was on the other side. Yes. Never Loved a Man. I would put Yeah. as impactful. That that was that was that was one of the most impactful albums of

the decade. You know what I mean? When it it came out as a single. Natural Woman is another one. Yeah. Um, I mean,

we could, man, in terms of impactful, then you get to the Amazing Grace album, right? The

Amazing Gra stopped in the middle of a of a major soul R&B career and made a gospel album, not the Al Green [ __ ] like when [ __ ] is on the wrong side. You

know, people make gospel albums when [ __ ] is going bad. [ __ ] up. She stopped and made the wrong side. She She

made amazing caught me doing this [ __ ] Jesus. Right. Right. Artha shut

everything down and made and made amazing which up until a few years ago was the biggest and greatest gospel

album ever made. Also the Curtis May everybody we mentioned as a star she done did something with them and trumped

them. I mean the Curtis Mayfield album for um she made the album with Curtis Mayfield that he produced that had given him something he could feel on there was

was a major shift in in in soul in the late '7s. I mean to me the earliest output is four. You said what? You you

you you're convincing me. He got a little argument. You're convincing me. He has an argument. She might have one of the best voices, pure voices. And I

think she's the greatest singer of all time. That's another thing. So like giving him something he can feel. That

would be another impact. That's what I'm saying. So she got the records, the voice, the impact. Yeah. I mean, she she

had more number one hits than him than he does. Of course. Of course. That's that's what I'm saying. Artha is is

something else. I'm pretty sure that almost that almost every single woman on this list would put Artha where she's

at. They'd all put Artha ahead of them. Yes. Every single one. Every single one. Whitney would say that. Beyonce would say that. And not in that humble [ __ ]

No. They would just be like, "It's a fact." But he was she was impactful back in the days, man. Like, you know, it's generational. Like I said, you guys are

y'all [ __ ] coming right out y'all [ __ ] minds. If Whitney Houston is breathing today, she says I'm

the best singer on this planet. She might not say it out of respect, but in her heart of heart, Whitney Houston was

feeling like, "Yo, fam, I'm not fuck." I I just I was something else, man. I ain't never seen nothing like it. I

wasn't even a thought in my dad balls. I'm shutting up. I'm not lying. No. And he Andy and he's good in a good

argument, but fam. No, he he he's he switched me a little too. I'm embarrassed. I'm going to read the stand and I'm embarrassed that I didn't that I

didn't. Mark, you got No, I am going to read the stand. Remember we we had a conversation about this month once ago

and when I saw you read the David Rita's book on her is dope and you appreciate her vocals even more. I mean amazing

though is the [ __ ] Artha is she's dope. She dope. Fire.

Clean it up, [ __ ] I could have put Artha at 16.

That's right. They could have put a wreath there right underested

in the eye underest. She could have been by Rachel or wherever he was at. He was too high. Babe, kick all these.

[ __ ] you. I'm saying things I would never say in front of my parents. Unless I was trying to get hit.

Oh, no. Pops going to call you. Oh, he going to call your ass. He should pop going to call him. Yeah. No, Artha was

never on my list of people to [ __ ] on in front of my dad. I tried to just keep that like Roberta flag.

That's who's that other There's one more. Anyway, I thought it was pretty brave of them to put R. Kelly on the

list as high as they put him period or on the list period. Did they make a mention of it of his [ __ ] Like, did they be like this? Oh, yeah. Right. Read

that. Sometimes they're apologetic about it. Like, you know, we had to include him despite his such and such. Well, they didn't do it with apologize for

including R. Kelly in any music conversation. I agree. But you know, magazines are often scary. Like they

didn't do it with Chris Brown. They did apologize, but they did mention it. He was in 2022, Kelly was sentenced to 30

years in prison for sex trafficking and raketeering charges tied to decades of sexual abuse, which has tainted the

singer's legacy. But from a purely musical perspective, there's no denying that Kelly is one of the best

contemporary R&B artists to ever pick up a If it wasn't for Dolly Parton, I don't know about putting Whitney above our

[ __ ] I ain't going to hold you. You out your And when you don't belong over no damn R

Kelly said you want to dance with some [ __ ] move

it. Why you jump right to Chris Brown about and it's mad of listen to these [ __ ]

That's not right that you do that. James Brown is right there.

There's a bunch of people on that list. I I understand that, but there is an active campaign to keep Chris Brown like

off of um off off of like any list. Wait, wait. The recognition of his

talent. I I love Breezy. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that um often times publications I'm not Don't do

Don't [ __ ] do that. Don't [ __ ] Don't do that because that's not what I'm doing. I'm trying to make a mention

of the fact that people take every opportunity that they can to [ __ ] like, you know, make mention dig. Yeah.

Yeah, they do. I think the difference is R. Kelly because his kids and he's incarcerated. No, I'm agreeing with you. I think because R. Kelly and his kids,

they had to mention it's not my dig. I just said that. I'm surprised by a

shovel, [ __ ] All right. Whatever. Whatever. Keep going. I have nothing to

say. I'm I'm I'm staying with M. Kelly should have been number two and that's it. We agree. And that's it. Number two.

You got him at number two. Yes. Crazy. Crazy [ __ ] Behind Stevie Wonder. Y'all high as hell. You got R.

Kelly above Michael. Above. You know. No, no, no. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. I put him number three. I put Michael before.

You put Prince

4.6. That [ __ ] may step in the name of love,

[ __ ] Yeah, that [ __ ] made if I could turn back the hell of my [ __ ] If I can

uh I believe I can fly. Yeah, [ __ ] And all us saying ain't that graduation. Graduation [ __ ] is you talking about?

[ __ ] y talking about [ __ ] going in line with popping circumstances. That [ __ ] going to them broke. You went

to them terrible ass Jersey high schools, man. That's why [ __ ] [ __ ] was every high school [ __ ] mouth. George Washington Carver High School of

Engineering and Science. Oh, [ __ ] We don't give a [ __ ] about that. He went on to be a journalist.

[ __ ] you. Oh [ __ ] [ __ ] is you talking about?

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Tap me a little Philly foot. Look at all happy people. Yeah. Pull out that

[ __ ] Blackberry. Shut up. Put that that Fiesta on. You might get the tap. Happy People.

No. R. Kelly, man. [ __ ] wrong with you, [ __ ] Yo, after the show, old people

don't all them old parties. The uh 50th party. You turning 60 R. Kelly. No, I'm

just saying what I'm saying. All right. You know what I'm talking about. older people, they playing R Kelly and they not they getting up stepping in the

heartbeat. They do all that [ __ ] Yeah, they don't care about that. [ __ ] them.

Oh god. Hey yo, I'm Hey yo, you know I I don't

get I might get up and step with you. Hey, sorry. Sorry, Whitney.

Hey, let's go. Get in your bag. Go.

Hey.

What do we do? Mark went on the sing. Hey yo, you fake

ass. Oh man. Mark, don't go dance all the time. Doing this twostep. [ __ ] you doing

in the kitchen. Yo, I know. Oh, it's supposed to be the remix. I was about to say

cuz you did my Ever since you did my laptop. Yo, ever since you did my laptop,

you ain't got to dance on the side. If Mel be trying to Mel was in this video. No, she was the other one you played. I

wasn't. I was in a happy. Hey, I'm sorry, Whitney. Rest in peace.

But Oh, [ __ ]

the boogeyman boy. You got to stop [ __ ] people up.

No pops. Yo, look at my damn. Nah, don't don't rap. Pops. Nah, don't rap. Don't

rap. You just missed your son up here and said we we ranking the top R&B singers of all time. He basically said

Franklin wasn't [ __ ] Yeah, I know. He said stupid things like that. He said stupid things like that. No, no, no, no,

no. They got Artha at number two behind Stevie at one all time. alltime top 75

greatest R&B acts. We good with that? I just don't think the should be she should be lower on the list. I just

don't think Artha should be a two. That's it. He thinks she should be behind R. Kelly. He thinks she should be No, but she should be behind James

Brown. Say the names I said. Don't try to get me in trouble with my dad. What? What was it? Is it based on just what

music? No, no show like voice

accolades longevity. Longevity impact all that stuff. And he basically was like, "Fuck Otis Red and Teddy

Pendergrass." Oh, no. Just lie.

You starting something new here. I'm never going to say [ __ ] Teddy Pendergrass or oldest red. You I mean, but you had them very low. Did he say

[ __ ] No, he didn't say [ __ ] Acknowledge him. He basically didn't acknowledge him,

right? All right. I'm not playing with I'm not playing with

his Bob. Nobody disrespected Curtis Mayfield. Who you disrespect? They're a liar. Who names you disrespected? I

can't remember. Flat. Oh, that's what it was. Ray Charles.

He didn't He ain't say nothing. I ain't say nothing but she another one. She another one. Come on boy. Listen, I

ain't got to respect people that my dad respect. You didn't beat him enough.

Yeah. No, honestly. Go hit a high note and make a P. My mom So last time he told me or he

used to tell me he's changing wasn't [ __ ] All right. Listen. All right. It's good for y'all. Look what y

did. Look what y did. Your son didn't say that. Uh listen. What else do we have on our topic board? Congratulations

to all. Make some noise for all acts that made the top seven. No matter where you are on that list, it is an

accomplishment. So shout out to each and every one of y'all. Indeed. And all of y'all well most of y'all probably forgot

more about music than we've ever learned. Most of y'all. some of y'all. Uh, what else? What else? What else?

What else? What else? We got some We got some uh some feedback from Tyler Perry.

You know the on the Patreon. Again, y'all need to check out the Patreon against Joe against Joe. No, no, he didn't respond to Joe yet. Tyler gave a

more Tyler fry you up. Bro, is you know how did I get into

Tyler Tyler Perry of course has been accused of or sued even for quit proquo

and some other sexual misconduct stuff by a former employee at activist from the Oval uh Derek Dixon Derek Dixon and

uh on the show and y'all should listen to the Patreon to hear our full kind of breakdown of it. It was very insightful

and mature. We then moved to We then moved to this next phase where Tyler

Perry responds. Um, it wasn't the response that I had hoped for. What' you hope for? Something more fullthroated.

Wow. Kept I mean you're talking about the one when he started doing all that Jesus uh across the hill. God sees my

trouble coming. All of that [ __ ] Help is on the way. Exactly. They're saying that that is is not a reply to this.

What would it be a reply to? That's something old. Like during COVID or during the fires in LA. Oh, really?

Yeah. That was not I'm 99% sure that was not him replying to this. Okay. That was

They took some old [ __ ] That's why they cut it the way they cut. Cuz I kept wondering why does it keep cutting here? I I spent like a half hour on the

internet trying to find it. Yeah. No, that's not his reply. So then Tyler Perry has not responded. No, not at all. His attorney. His attorney. Yeah. his

attorneys. Now that we've seen we have we have a reply from his attorney and we've seen a leak of text messages and we've seen the actual court documents

that were filed to give also some direct quotes allegedly from Tyler Perry to Mr.

Dixon. What did what did the text messages? So glad you asked.

Happen to have them right here. Right here on uh anybody want to read read

some of it too? It's nice. It's fun. Gohead role play. Okay. You want to read Tyler and I'll read Derek? No. No. It

should be dude. I think it should be You be the other dude. I don't have them. You can read them. All right. My phone

died. I'll read them in a guy's voice. There you go, man. All right. Great. Let's go,

Mel. All right. I'll be blue. You be gray. Well, yeah. Blue is Dixon. Yes. All right. Get your [ __ ] off. Right. And

we just had a heaping dose of it and now it's back to Oh, mine starts before

that. Oh, mine starts here. Oh, cuz that's a whole lot of nothing. It's not

though. It's very cuz on Tyler's side, it lays the premise.

Okay, here we go. And it starts one way. In my opinion, this this conversation escalates

and you can kind of see that in the text. So, I'll just I'll just I'll just read it and throw the worms out. I can

call you later or tomorrow sometime. There you go. You have a really fresh voice and take

on things. I don't know where this is going, but I laughed the entire time. I

could see the world and the characters. My exclusivity ends in 30 days. I want

to take loosening it out to Amazon or Netflix after that and gauge their interest. But I also want to try and get

you with the right people to help you make these shows work. They are not for my audience, but we need to find a home

for this stuff. I don't want you to miss another do Oh, I don't want to miss another I'm going to assume it'sreek. It

says Dawson's Creek. Dawson Creek. No, it's Shitz Creek. [ __ ] Creek. There's a

show called Shitz Creek. Okay. Shitz Creek. Uh, you know that I'm old as hell. Dawson Shitz Creek is first. You

know that Eugene bought that to me first, but I didn't get it. Oh, yeah. Definitely.

Yeah. Aman gets here tomorrow, so he's got my full attention. I'll be trapped. I'll be trapped until the day after

Christmas. So, let's talk then. I just think that was important to know. That's super important. Yeah. Okay. He says,

"Wow, wow. I was worried you'd even like it because it's a weird concept." So,

thank you. All right. Now, sir, come on. Let's go. Let's go. All right. So, the next one is

Right. Well, I feel like I'm in Hamilton. Right. And we just had a heaping dose of it and now it's back to

nothing. It's really weird. You got to start rapping it though.

Word. I didn't have any contact. What are you talking about? I haven't been touched in months. Oh, you mean

touching? I thought you meant being around people. Jacob, I love that you

only say that when I'm being stupid. Lol. I guess the Jacob dumbass version

of me. Not dumbass, but blonde.

It's you next. Oh, you know what I cook? Sorry. Yeah, I [ __ ] him, too.

You know what I cook? Derek spaghetti cake.

You I'm so drunk. I'll talk as [ __ ]

What's it going to take for you to have guiltless sex? Have y'all found that yet in therapy?

That escalated quickly. Yeah. Yes. It's the exact same kind of car. Geo Metro, whatever that is. Who cares? It was his

first car. Um, Tyler Perry's car that he was sleeping in when he was homeless. That was my first car, too. Oh, okay.

Tyler Perry has a lot of Atlanta. Atlanta Tyler Perry got a lot

in common. Yeah, we both work with a lot of gay people. All right. Giving up my religious guilt, becoming a Buddhist.

That's so cool. Where you came from. Unfortunately, Derek, I have friends who

are in their 50s and 60s who are still dealing with that. And it's so sad. You can you can have freedom from religious

guilt and still believe in Christ. I'm assuming that's We should stop here. Yeah,

they laying the groundwork. [ __ ] the first conversation sound like when you tell a shorty now. The first one is

flirty. Now we laying the groundwork to saying, "Yo, you got religious guilt about whatever you got religious guilt

about about being homosexual." Yes, we can get past that.

Times have changed. The first one is we can make this happen.

Nice. Santa Monica is nice. I'm glad you're going out there. How is your No.

Is it stronger? You've got to have a strong No. Yes, it's strong. My mom

literally thinks I'm going to sell my soul to the Illuminati. She heard Kanye

say that. It's real. Well, I don't think that, but I do think that you have to be able to say no and

mean it and make it clear. I'll only say yes if it gets me an Oscar. Just joking.

Just joking. Just joking. I hear you. Now, at that point, I think that this little is this dude white? Yeah. This

little white [ __ ] is trying to line me up. Um, this white [ __ ] is texting me to

line me up. And Tyler Perry knew it, too. So he responded and said, "Well,

the only one who could have gotten that for you through sex is in prison. So

just stick to the no unless you are really into him." Freaky emoji.

The freaky control. I was going to ask what the freaky emoji was. The one with the tongue out and one

eye winking. Oh, okay. The freaky emoji. It's a bunch of freaky emoji. That was a freaky emojis. Oh, you just be sending

out sexually harassing all this stuff. The purple devil smiling. That's freaky emoji. I thought I was just like, okay,

noted. I would hope that you would let someone hold you and make love to you.

You are missing the best years of your life, my friend. Trust me, I hope you get past that block in your mind soon.

Well, it's not this person, but yes, I want that, too. I'm working on it. Therapy is helping. Now, I'm going to

stop again. I think agendas are pretty clear at this point. Once we get to the part of the

relationship where you come and to tell me how much you hate the current person that you're seeing and I tell you [ __ ]

like get away from him and I'll bend that break that back up nice

and keep it above. We are past employee employer

talk at that point. Yeah, it's you get what I'm saying? Like we on some personal talk and [ __ ] It's past that

at that point. Yeah, the dude basically is saying I'm paying I I play for pay.

I'll do those things only if it gets me an Oscar. You got a price JK. Yeah, it's

mad truth and JK. Yeah. Like, yo, my [ __ ] going to do it. You going to do it, but Tyler Tyler

peaked the the the line up and still kept going. But man, people are giving it up for letting them know, yo, I'm not doing it for no bread. I pop you, but I

ain't paying. Yeah. All right. So they continues to take this a little more personal. Tyler says, "Why did that

photo make me jealous? You two together."

Oh [ __ ] Sorry. Are you intellectually I lost my [ __ ] I got it here. He's

laying it out what I'm trying to do. You can't say at this point your way to I don't know. It's just Brad. Lol. Tyler

says lol. Okay. Then I say he just wanted to go for a quick walk to get his

steps in. And now I'm walking to Chipotle myself. Lol. Thick Derek. Get

that Chipotle. Haha. Can you tell from that photo?

Stop. Thick Derek is crazy. Chipotle making [ __ ] thick is crazy. Y'all

[ __ ] do be a double. You calling another man thick is crazy. You getting

a double meat. Double meat. It's not. Y'all was very immature. Y'all

are intellectually whatever the term was. I'm definitely It's not crazy if you into that. No, I'm saying homeboy

saying he didn't get what was going on. That's [ __ ] my [ __ ] Anything

after this that transpired was consensual. You can't talk about Wait, if I talk about Chipotle, it mean I get

the hit? No. If you saying, "Yo, you showing me a picture with another dude made me jealous."

Yeah, it sounds like he said, bro. The agenda is clear. Like, be clear. Like, it ain't no hidden agenda going on. I'm

trying to smash. I got mixed feelings, but keep going. And it sounds like from this that Derek sent him a photo of

himself. Like, this is an exchange. Go on. Right. It's on you, Mel. No, I said

how haha. How can you tell from that photo? Next one. No, I can't. Only from

your jeans. Haha. That's how I measure, too. If I'm not filling them out, I'm

not working hard enough. Right.

This is cut off of my Let me ask. So, dude's claim is he don't know that Tyler was trying to get at him. Yes. Well,

yes, it wasn't consensual. Yeah. Like Tyler basically was ambushing him and

all this other [ __ ] Yeah. Got it. So, he's going to probably argue some coerciveness here and um probably like

uh power dynamics and the whole nine. That's that's the that's my hangup.

That's my hangup. So, you feel like it's power dynamics into play. Well, there's definitely power dynamics. Absolutely power. If if Tyler Perry isn't Tyler

Perry, he's not talking to him. All right, cool. But let me ask you this. I'm not saying No, no, no. That's could be true. But what I'm saying is one,

were they already working together? Cuz it seems like he was just giving him scripts or throwing them ideas. I don't

know if he was already working for they were already working for him at that point in time. He meets him in a crowd, picks him out in a catering and brings

him in and for that woman forward. Were they already in talks to work together? He gave him a job within a couple weeks.

He got hired like right like that. He like basically picked It's the old school [ __ ] You see somebody you like [ __ ] yo, I got something for you. I

got something for you. Yeah. He gave him a job. He saw him at a catering. He was catering an event for him, right? That's where you find And the first job that he

g that he gave him, it wasn't the um role that he played consistently on the oval. It was a different production,

right? We got one more job. Yeah. After that. All right. Um Okay. So, no, let's

stop reading cuz it's a million more text. It's way too many texts, but the

important ones. And the next one, Tyler is saying, uh, I feel sorry for the person that you choose. Homeboy says,

why? He says, what I mean by that is, uh, you're so beautiful. When you finally are able to unlock your mind,

you're going to make that person crazy. Just that that's that that's that game

that old school [ __ ] I mean, but see the flip side to that is

where the power dynamic part come into play. Do know he talking to Tyler Perry. I know. I'm familiar with it. So, it's like damn if I if I dub this the wrong

way. I may lose my job. No. And not just lose my job. Like this [ __ ] could I might never work again somewhere. Got

it. So that's not saying that was intention, but that's why it's tricky when you up here. You can't you can't be

talking you work with. So you don't feel like you you leave yourself open. I don't feel like you can stand on your

principle and still keep your job. Just be respectful about it. You can reject somebody respectfully. You can, but you

can you can be af I could see somebody being afraid of doing that. And that's

why you're not supposed to do it as a boss. That's all I'm saying. I don't think I mean when I read these exchanges, this sounds like some other

[ __ ] is going on. I don't know if they have a relationship. I don't know if they ever had I don't know any of that. This is the part where I start hating

you. But no, you don't know where I'm going. I think you're going to agree with me. Um, I don't know their dynamic, but this does not This feels like two

friends talking. And if I had to put my money on something, my money would be on

they had a friendship, something went left and that's why this person is and I'm scoring. I'm salty now. Yeah. And

I'm about to make you pay. Yes. But but but and this is the part where you're going to hate me again. That doesn't mean that he wasn't uncomfortable at

various points in the exchange. who the employee. Yeah. Like I think there's a part of him that had to have these

exchanges because it's Tyler Perry. That doesn't mean such a problem. I hate you.

It's circumstantial. I have a problem with the power dynamic argument circumstantially

overarching. I understand where it can be negative, but

there's a conflict because people tend to like the person with power dynamics.

Yeah. People are attracted to the person that has power that's in charge. Not

only that, people will be gay for play. People will give up some ass to get a

role. The casting couch is a thing. Like the there's a thing there. So it

shouldn't be, yo, the person that was in power was foul cuz he was in power and he had that looming over your head.

There's another side to that coin that is not targeted because you in power like this. You know what I didn't Yes, I

agree with that. You know what I didn't hear from you? Do you think that Tyler Perry [ __ ] this dude? Uh, I I I'm 50/50 on it. I don't think

so. I suspect no, but it wouldn't shock me either way. I think Tyler Perry popped just off. I suspect that Tyler

Perry popped as well. And I can tell you the exact spot in these text. No, no, no. Last week when we he said he was had

his underwear on. He was staying in Tyler Perry's guest house. He had his underwear on. He said Tyler Perry came

in the room, pulled his underwear down, and started groping his ass. I have that text. I have the text that kind of

alludes to that. That's the one where he [ __ ] if I feel comfortable enough to pull your draws down.

No, but here's my question. Why would he lie about to me if everything he's saying is his argument that he was

pressured doing everything? Sex would only make his argument better. Why would he deny having sex with Tyler Perry? That's all I'm saying. He never said he

didn't have sex with Tyler Perry. Okay. He chopped he chopped up the the messages. He said, "Yo, he pulled my

pants down. He started groping me." Let me ask saying it like it wasn't welcomed. It was Why wouldn't he lead

with that? To me, the the more [ __ ] you did with Tyler, the stronger your case is. So to me, that's to me he would lead with that. He never denies and said he

didn't have sex with Tyler. You have to say consensually. His whole argument, the argument about

power dynamics is that it's never fully consensual. So even if I say, "Hey, okay, I'll have sex with you tonight."

The idea is you're still my boss. I'm, you know what I I'm about to agree with Mark only in the fact that after you

spoken, you know, I don't He hates that [ __ ] Good. Yeah. But if you're Tyler Perry,

you know that people are drawn to power, money, success, fame, whatever the case

may be, it is now your responsibility to not allow these people to infiltrate

your empire and be able to even get at you like this. Well, if there are laws that incentivize people to infiltrate an

empire, then I think that that should be acknowledged. The flip side of what you're saying, cuz

I agree with some of what you're saying, is I don't know what this dude was doing

before Tyler Perry met him. Mhm. Tyler Perry saw him, took an obvious liking to

him, put him in position. I think most people that are powerful do that for the

person that they like. True. Yeah. M. So I'm so I'm not about to hang him for

getting the dude that he thought had a cute ass a job. But when you're a couple

billion dollar if right now you're my friend and I love you and if you was

single. You are my friend and you love you. No listen listen to the words he said. Let me finish. He said if you were

single, right? If you were single and you found some bad chick and you bought her up here, I would encourage you not

to hit it. You have too much to lose to be hitting this girl. It's other bad chicks out here that you could deal with

that you don't work with. Cuz what's wrong with this particular girl? Nothing. Nothing. But what could happen when it go when she get mad later? Her

personality is amazing. She's beautiful. She's all of these things. Me as Joe's friend is going to say, "Yo, dog, you

bringing sand to the beach. You playing with fire. You don't you don't uh So that means you should be afraid of like any girl." No, no, no, no. Working here.

Working. You don't work. You don't [ __ ] where you eat. So if the girl came up here, she was beautiful on the mic. And

to answer your question, the answer is yes. I know they didn't. The answer is yes. Kind of right. In his position, you

kind of do have to be afraid of every girl. Okay. Cuz they potentially have an alter

working is different. Yeah, you're right. That's all I'm talking about. Even outside of working, if Tyler wants

to [ __ ] dude and just [ __ ] him and give him money, that's his business. Let me read Let me read this text because it speaks to the the working environment

[ __ ] Tyler says. And for me again, I think I can tell the exact point in this

text exchange when dude got popped. I just got a lot of experience in this.

But Tyler says, "Listen to me. If you let the cast know that you and I that sounded crazy,

that sound a little you know the point in that text message where dude got popped cuz you got a lot of experience in that. You got to w that." No, not

with the not with popping dude. Please be mature.

You looked over here to me, [ __ ] Tyler says, "Listen to me. If you let the cast know that you and I have a new

friendship, then you are opening uh opening yourself up to a lot of questions and foolishness. You want them

to know that you are there because of your talent and not because we have a friendship or because Tony uh Tony got

me to give you a job. You earned your spot just like everyone else. Don't give people an opportunity to play you small

or they will. I can't teach you everything. Unfortunately, there are some things you'll have to learn for

yourself. Cuz when we go back to work, I'm not going to know you. I don't have any friends that work for me, my friend.

Professionalism is key. I hope you got it, my friend. Just watch the behavior

of everyone around me on set. Period. All I'm saying is when I see you on

here, when I see you on the elevator on Monday, you not hugging me. You not kikiing with me. You not doing none of

that. I'm going to look at you like I don't know you and he's agreeing. You're totally right. That makes total sense. Yeah, I will. Don't want to give anybody

that opportunity because work is work. So to me, that was the right after he popped. That's right after.

You got that? It's right after he popped. That's right after. That sounds like it. But don't go make it hot. Don't

go start. This is Sunday. Sunday night. I'mma see you tomorrow. You don't know me when you see me. I'm Mr. Perry when

you see me. Yes, you're M. I'm Mr. Perry. And that's why this is [ __ ] up. I don't think this is a $260 million

lawsuit. I I'm I'm not convinced it should be a lawsuit at all. I need to know more details, right? I'm so I'm not

saying he dude is right. Why shouldn't it be a lawsuit? Because I don't know

what's true or not yet. And but that's not the stance that y'all be taking when it's a female. It is. No, it's not. It's

never the stance that y'all take when it's a woman. When it's a woman, you don't say, "Yo, this shouldn't be a lawsuit." Y'all immediately be like,

"Yo, that nigga's a piece of shit." Blah blah blah blah blah. Oh, no. Hold on. That's been our That's been our track record. That That hasn't been my track

record. But what I again what I because I said the same thing with Jay-Z. The muffin church is back. Boy, you missed

if you remember. Muffin church is back. We ain't playing with Mark. If you remember with the Tony's Busby conversation we had again where we had

evidence, I said, "This looks fuzzy to me." And that was a woman involved to me

with Tony Busby and Jay-Z I'm talking about, right? To me, the question is always what's the evidence? I didn't say

this shouldn't be a lawsuit. I said I don't know if it should be because I don't have enough information. But I thought you also said that we should always believe victims. We should say

that as well. We absolutely should. So then, but if you always believe victims initially, then you're not looking for the evidence. Listen, listen to what I'm

saying. First of all, two things. Let me let me answer two of those things. Pardon me. First, believing victims doesn't mean that every victim's always

telling the truth. It means we shouldn't start from a position of dismissiveness. We shouldn't start from a position of saying that they're lying. That's what

I've always said. I've never said believe all victims. Got it. Okay. All accusers because when you don't get

sleep, we got you. Y'all really don't. But but the second thing here is I'm not saying we shouldn't listen to me. I'm

not saying we shouldn't believe him. I'm saying even if everything he's saying is true, the question to me is does that

mean that he deserves $260 million? I got I'm not saying he's lying. I'm saying everybody up here believes what

he's saying. Everybody here believes him. It ain't question whether we believe him or not. The question is if I don't I don't No, no, no, no, no. Don't

speak for me. I do not believe how he's laying this out. But that's the point. I do not believe that. I think that Tyler

Perry saw a dude, thought he was hot, had some flirty text, got him a job, popped, distanced himself, and now Tyler

Perry, just like straight dudes, got to deal with the girl that's spiteful and hurt because you you went about this

differently than I expected. You about to cancel the show to Oval. You are unemployed and now I What? But but

again, just for fact sake too, also he he resigned. He quit the the season before. But but your point was well no

but I just wanted to make make that hypothetical not this case. My point is even if what you describe is true there are people who will say that that that

you can't do that that you can't do that and what I and and I know I'm I'm on the other side of that but I can't because

society and kindness and all that [ __ ] So I'm saying this isn't a question of believing victims or not. This is a question of to me this is a is the

number too high is what you're saying. To me, this is a more interesting conversation than is he telling the truth? And that's always that's the easy thing to to fight over. And I'm going to

go back to what we said about um Kevin L and Shorty. We are in no position to put a number on

somebody else's trauma. No, no, no. But I'm saying, forget the number part. I'm not even arguing that part. What I'm saying number's too high. I I said I

did, but that's not what I'm talking about right at this moment. I'm talking about something different. I'm saying the more interesting question to me is if this is all true, is this something

that people should be paid for? Right. Given No, no. Here what I'm asking. If

because you're saying no, you're saying it's not. You're saying that if if it went the way you laid it down that they they were cool, he he had sex with him.

He and and he got mad and bitter later. Does the fact that he's Tyler Perry's the boss mean just because that means

you get paid? I know what the law says. I'm asking a should question. Yeah. I'm asking a should. That's what I'm saying. The more

illegal. Yes. That's what I'm saying. No. Hell no. There's a long list of

people that shouldn't have got paid if we doing it that way. And that's where it gets and that's where I get that's why I say I'm a little conflicted

because there is a way it's like if if Barack Obama or Donald Trump call one of calls one of us in this room, there's a

certain kind of power and control they have just by virtue of who they are in Hollywood. That's who Tyler Perry is. And so there is a pressure that I can't

imagine having uh to have to watch every step you make in every interaction that you have with people. Well, that's the

only thing that makes me at that level. The onus was on you now to protect yourself and protect your brand. Yep.

Right. Cool. We all, again, if we were all single men, if all of us were single

men, there's a girl that we might meet and yo yo, let's go to lunch. Y'all know

me. Yo, I'm going to get that credit right. Like, I'mma put you on my man. I'mma do all of those things. Whatever

the case may be. That's Tyler Perry's offering this man a job. Yeah. I think you're attractive. You catering. You

could be doing much much more. pictures, you should be doing much much more. But in that instance, now he's made himself

vulnerable and potentially liable if some [ __ ] does go left. You're a billionaire, my [ __ ] Go find some

other cute [ __ ] outside in Nean Marcus. And sometimes that's the the the hunt is

the interesting part to people. To us, [ __ ] Yeah. Make it to them, too. It's

a good combination. Yeah. But I'm just saying like, yo, that that it ain't too many humans you going to get to have the

to have the uh opportunity to sue for $260 million discipline. Yeah. To have

the discipline and maturity to turn their back on just the option, the

opportunity to make $200 million, $250 million. Like who you asking people to

be a lot stronger than humans are? True. Is is just my point. Look, that's just

I'm not wired that way. nigga's not turning down 200 grand if an opportunity is hitting them right in their face. He

was making 400 on the show. Okay. Like, God, is it's hard. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying it's hard for me

to imagine somebody puts me on at that level, gives me a chance to create an opportunity. And I'm not saying this is what happened, but if it is if it's what

y'all describe and this person has changed my life and given me a trajectory to then go and basically try

to destroy their career. Horrible. I got people [ __ ] up. It is horrible. You got people [ __ ] up. It's hard for me

to imagine. I believe I see it happens. It's just hard for me to wrap my mind around. Well, at this point, you're seeing it happening week happen weekly.

I know. And it always [ __ ] me up. I just can't wrap my mind around it. You wouldn't do that. You wouldn't do. None of us up here would do that. I want to.

Yo, dog. I still I still I've been saying for a few like I want I want to do that. I just wouldn't be able to

sleep. I'm not doing that, bro. Oh, no. You I wouldn't be able to sleep. That [ __ ] is rough for my putting smut on

somebody jacket for for the purpose for some paper if that's what happened. Again, we're not saying that that's what

this man is doing. Do I'm saying that's what he doing. No, you want to [ __ ] Tyler Perry. Come on. Yo, we got Okay,

maybe on podcast. You can't say yo [ __ ] got double antandras in the text

talking about there was a lot them texts are very troubling to me. I will say you don't think dude want to [ __ ] Tyler

Perry. Yes, absolutely. I don't know if he What do you mean by mean like it was

attracted to him or was willing to [ __ ] Tyler Perry? Willing, was attracted, was eager, was Tyler. He knew what it was.

Face lit up when Tyler text him. The text seemed showing his homeboy excited about the text seemed like some willing

[ __ ] You know what I mean? You know, it's hard to know what want means at that moment. Want don't even matter. He started talking about his jeans and the

size in his jeans. No [ __ ] Like my come on. Well, that's why I said last week at the initial I I have to believe he went

to Tyler before this went out and offered a number. Yeah. And Tyler said so Tyler wouldn't be embarrassed by

this. And so this it's an interesting choice by Tyler to not settle this because not settling it means now the

whole world uh could be led to believe something about your sexuality that you never talked about. [ __ ] if a dude is

bisexual and Elton John start just texting you one day. [ __ ] you excited. You hype. You hype about that.

So Tyler Perry had a response. He did not. It turns out did not have a respon. The thing that was being promoted as a

response was not his lawyer did respond. Lawyer response basically it was a shakeddown. But it's pretty clear this

looks like a shakeddown. It does when you But it feel like a shake down. Yeah. Unless

he put himself in question. I have a question in a statement. Um the TS Madison person said that they're

interested or they are attracted to straight dudes. What if that's Tyler Perry's thing as well? What if his his

thing is, you know, if you say somebody name, you don't have to say person. What

you said the I don't care about none of how you repeat that. the TS Madison

said that she's attracted to straight dudes, right? So, what I'm saying is that what

if that's Tyler Perry's bag? There's a there's a difference. TS Madison is trans. Tyler Perry, the assumption from

this these texts is that he's at minimum bisexual at I'm not talking about Tyler Perry not being you talking about the

guy flip flip is saying that their intent is the same. And and we've we've we've heard stories where um gay men try

to uh turn straight men. That's what I'm talking about. Got it. Okay. Understood. That's what you're saying. Okay. Okay. Got it. Why would Why would that be

different to you if if it's that versus It's no different. I'm just saying what if that Cuz we're saying that I'm I'm

kind of agreeing with the whole power dynamics now than I read it. Right. When you say that your boss is texting you,

you don't know what to say, you don't know how to say it, you don't know if you should not respond, you don't want to lose a position. So, I'm I'm on the

edge of that. And I'm just saying that what if Tyler Perry bag is just he don't have to be gay, but I'm gonna go at him and use my power dynamics to turn. I'm

just that was just was playing in my mind. And to me, gay, straight, whatever the person is, it's all the same. You

know what I mean? That's a crazy But I mean like if his fear billion dollars, dude, you do whatever you want. You could change somebody's mind. I keep

trying. [ __ ] you can do it with 2500. I keep

You're not lying. Go ahead. But we can't say that a billionaire is the bad guy because you see me and switch up. You

know if you're Dean [ __ ] polarizing [ __ ] just walked in here. I

smell like a different creed that you can't purchase. I look like some [ __ ]

I don't get it. Look, I'm layering. I don't get it. I'm layering. Yeah, the layers is hidden differenti.

[Music] Yeah, [ __ ] Yeah. My thing Well, I I I

not rocking with that. I was going to say this. I just if part of what he's alluding to by airing by um by um with

this lawsuit is that he feared retribution. These text messages take place in 2021, which is basically around

the time where he would have gotten the position of, you know, the the role of Jacob in the Oval. Um the Oval

It's four years later. So where is actually where actually is the fear of

retribution? If he tells you, yo, we got to kind of like back up in front of

people, keep it professional on set. You can you maintained having the job. You

maintained having the high salary. That's where the questions kind of come. You saw another hot ass that he gave a

job to. Old boy got jealous like when [ __ ] was walking with Brett to Chipotle. And I know I I understand

that. But the point is is that that's part of the accusation is I'm fearing

being black ballalled. I'm fearing if he doesn't continue to play. Yeah. I'm fearing um you know complete and total

career annihilation. Gotcha. Yeah. But it's like So now you So now you quit,

right? So whenever he quit, what was it? 22 23 when he quit. So yeah. Cool. 24 when he quit. He quit in June 2024. So

you just quit and now you can't get no more work, right? And that 400,000 you flying through it.

Life be lifingering, my [ __ ] Bills don't stop. They come every 30 days. So now I need I need a I need a couple. But

but let's represent him fairly at least. Right. Even if No, no. I'm saying what I just want to add what he said. What he said is that he's dealing with severe

anxiety that he's having severe mental health issues surrounded to what he had to go through during the time of pray.

We can agree or that's what happens when a billionaire breaks up with you and takes his hand over you. You realize

that your talent wasn't there. stomach start hurting. Probably was hurting. You get a headache, bro. You was making four No.

No. All jokes aside, you making $400,000 a year. We don't know if this man is living check to check. You know what I'm

saying? Like [ __ ] like that starts to really come into play. And so now you maybe not guaranteed, but he might be

looking at dire straits financially. Guess what? And does he say why he quit?

Give me 5 million. No, I couldn't find that anywhere. I he may have said said it, but I could not see because of what

he was having to deal with on the job. He talked about again on the job feeling anxiety and stress and need seeing mental health. So, I'm just saying it's

possible this is all [ __ ] It's also possible that at the very least he feels like he was harmed and deserves

something. And he does mention therapy more more than once in these text messages. So, if he's got some kind of I

don't know where he releases, you know, gives the gives his therapist um you know, a release uh you know, for his

hippo records, whatever. Exactly. client client privilege. And there's something in there that alludes to him talking

about this more than once. Like I feel like, you know, yeah, lined them up.

Thoughts and prayers, tease and peace. Thoughts and prayers to homeboy. True. Uh all victims of SAH.

Uh and we'll wait till more information is revealed. That's all we can really do. That's all we can do. That [ __ ] was

going to work wearing the tight Mark jeans, showing his body off in front of Tyler. [ __ ]

you can't wear the Mark. Hit that [ __ ] a picture. Yeah, with the

[ __ ] in front of Chipotle with the print. You know you can't send Tyler the Chipotle pick with the bulge. He hit

the [ __ ] with the gray sweatpants. All right. All right. All right. Enough. Y'all know what time it is, right? The

tight one. The Russell sweats. No pockets. Freaky man. Y [ __ ] too. Flip is trying

to save y'all right now. You know what time it is with the

playing [ __ ]

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Oh, all right. you wanted to add a footnote uh to a cliff note to the Tyler Perry thing. This was for the Tyler

Perry thing. This is not the first time that there's been a conversation about sexual misconduct. There was another actor uh Christian Keys. Christian Keys,

you know, who made He never said his name. I was going to say who made statements that people What was he in? He was in Top Gun or something, right?

No. Was he in Harry Potter? No, he actually is one of the writers of um Bottom Rifle. Hey, Tyler know how to

pick a boy. Bottom rifle is crazy. That's how you get him. Look at you. Yo, that boy. How' they get him? What did

you say, Mel? Uh, he's actually one of the creators of the TV show that's on BET, All the Queens Men. That's starring

Eva Eva Marcel, which I think you mean Tyler Perry's BET, but I think it's also produced by Tyler Perry. So, Tyler Perry

keep looking out for [ __ ] But I just want to be clear, he didn't say Tyler Perry's name. They did not.

Yeah, but it's been But the streets know. But I just want to make that clear. But the streets be known. Yeah, I would I don't want the streets to be

suing me. Tyler, clean it up. Get your act together, buddy.

What What's the name of the show? All the Queens Men. Oh. Mhm.

That's what they said. The scary part about the Tyler text was that is that it read like one of his screenplays.

[ __ ] Quick. He be making scripts. It might It might be. Sure enough. Sure enough.

What? I ain't [ __ ] with that. All right, then. Let's get out of here. All right. We have uh let's get the music. Let's get the music. We do have uh

a divorce versus we have a divorce versus. I think it's

fly. When your wife when you and your wife get a divorce and y'all both drop a

record on the same day. I do think that that's fly. Maybe it's the artist in me. It's fly. So, which record would you

guys like to hear first? Cardi B or offset? Offset. Let's do Offset. Nah,

going on Cardi B. Sorry. All right. This record is called

Outside BX. Let's go.

Hey. All right. The thing about partying with

[ __ ] that's 50 years old, yo, sometimes when the bop come on, [ __ ] just get all stoic and stupid in the

face, you know what I mean? [ __ ] that don't go out unless they got a speaking engagement somewhere. [ __ ] that don't

go out unless it's their birthday or their girl is in Europe. Like, y'all

[ __ ] don't really know unless Loro Like, y'all don't really know how to

respond when the when the bop is out. [ __ ] don't go outside unless it's time

to shut down MC trap. Uh, drive to Buffalo, see your dad. Like, well,

what's up, lame ass? I'll be outside personally. Bunch of lameo. That is definitely that's a bop.

I liked it. It felt a little dated to me, but the sound a little bit like I didn't I thought it was going to be crazier than maybe I need to hear the

strip club or in the car or something, but her vocals sound a little low.

Oh [ __ ] Like I I can hear what she was saying, but it wasn't like, you know, she'll hit you with the punchline [ __ ] when she

said the beep beep leak leak back out of I like that song. I thought the mix was fun. I thought it was like I don't love

the song, but I liked it. I didn't love it. Yeah. What didn't you love about it? It just didn't do it like I Pop liked

it. Pop get a couple dollars out of Pop. This

ain't a good hiatus return for me. That's what it is for me. If you go on that long, you come back. I expected it to be something a little I wanted heat.

Yeah. But it ain't a It's about dissing him. It ain't about I'm making this

ain't my album cut. My first single. It's about I'm [ __ ] on it. But I'm [ __ ] it. It'll work for It'll work

for the crowd that she's trying to cater to. That's true. It'll work outside. She come from She come from that. She know how to make it work in the clubs and

where it needs to work for and I don't think this is the first single either. So I'm grading on the curb. Yeah. Well,

with with her normally it's not she's not teasing [ __ ] that's dropping like

that unless it's something behind it. Well, the story behind this the rumor anyway behind this, I don't know how

true it is, was she played the snippet, all the fans went crazy. Mhm. Uh on some

Tik Tok [ __ ] with the bad audio. So, she dropped this record first on some warm-up [ __ ] and she's teasing a single.

Uh, she performed this record and she was teasing a single like a real single

that her and Spotify only know about. What was she just in? Oh, that's different. Yeah. I think she was in Ken

and that's where she perform this in can cuz this is the first single I'm underwhelmed. If it's just a song she putting out, it's fine. Yeah.

Is that how you pronounce Ken? Yes. I've just had an argument with Mandy the other day. I say Khan, she said it's can

about this. She sent me mad [ __ ] of people in France saying can. So, all

right. Mel, what's the rubber way? I think it's can. It's French. That's the S is silent.

Yeah, the S is definitely silent. It's just whether it's con or can. I think it's matter of that. Yeah, I think it's can though. We don't know. Anyway, I was

saying I just want to sound sophisticated. I keep hearing con. When I went I said, I keep saying I keep hearing and saying cons. So when I hear

you say I just said that um yeah I'm grading on the curve because this this is not the big I've been going eight

years single and hold up wait y'all talking about friends. Yeah my slow ass

thought they over here joking because you asked me it was a a nickname for Canada. You know some can I'm like what

the [ __ ] are y'all talking? What was the term intellectually?

It's a s on the end. All right. That's not Jersey. Jersey

school [ __ ] But you know how to spell it? Yes. C A N. Yes. Okay. Don't just to

be disrespected, my man. Because he said can was No, because you said Mel. She's not French. So that's why we was like

Mel. She ain't Canadian. Canadian. Actually, French is our second language. That's why it's a melting pot. It's not.

It's a mosaic impetite. I figure after 13 years of I mean you you would know

some of it. You know, enough to know can versus K. That's why I was saying I don't know any French. Anywh who anyway

anyway the song listen I don't think it's the first single uh I don't necessarily love it but it's cool like I

don't think this is harder than uh enough that's what I'm saying the records that she's dropped again cuz she

haven't dropped she hasn't dropped an album so it's just been single single single and all of those this is the

worst out of every last one of them records that she's dropped and lyrically I this ain't I don't love this like I

lyrically of Cardi because she's in her flow bag with I guess the bounce of this beat. I don't all I'm so small and tiny.

He's so big and tall. I let him dunk this [ __ ] like dunk the ball. It's like girl

girl like I I I can't. But I know that's how these [ __ ] is out here sounding

when they [ __ ] Look at your [ __ ] mind. She get a couple dollars out of me on this. Well, I mean if it come on I'll

throw some money but I have a high expectation of Cardi. Same. And I don't

know if I want my leak record dropping the same day that my ex-husband is dropping an absolute flame. I was going

to say, especially when that [ __ ] is a banger down. Play that one. Yeah. You You asked for it. Yes, sir. That's why

you played a second. There you go. And he used the little Migos flow at the beginning. I like that. Ladies and

gentlemen, yeah. No, that's a distinguished panel 10 react. That's out of this [ __ ] world. That's That's the

one right there. That would be the hardest offset record I ever heard. I love it. Yeah, maybe solo record. That

[ __ ] crazy. Yeah, he might be. I agree. It's up there. I mean, I We got that. It just came out.

I know. I know. It could be that. It could be. I don't I remember being this excited. Solo record. Trying to think of

a solo joint. Offset got joint. I'm not saying I'm not saying I'm mad at the take. I think it's just fast. It is

fast. Next week I'll maybe say it. I'm going to hear this somewhere. Yeah. Even

though my girl changed the flight, she come along here. She must have known

that new set was This [ __ ] is good. Anyway, I'm going to hear this somewhere

outside with my lady. Yeah, there you go. There you go. Shouts to set man and and J that record

is a smoker. That's fire. Yep. That beat is fire. Vinyls did that

beat. Yeah. Oh my god. Jesus. You would you wouldn't have known what to do with that. Yeah. Not at all. Yeah.

Not with that. Yeah. Not with 10 years worth of rust on me. I mean, I'm not active. I don't never want to disrespect

any of the active people. You can't just get out of bed and don't nobody want to hear she hurt my feelings. I'm down bad.

I'm so sad. [ __ ] a man.

I want to hear that. They going to want throw some money to that. No, we good.

Look at that's [ __ ] up. And this is kind of a diss record. Yes. It's not kind of. It's

what the girl That's what I just said. Like, yo, fam. I don't think that's her single off her project. I think yo, I'm

shooting at your dumb ass. I knew you had a song coming out, so I'm But well, then it didn't work. That was the goal.

Didn't work. That's even worse. I like that. I like both of them, but I like I didn't love it. You liked it before you

heard offsets? I thought it was just all right before offsets. hear offsets. It makes me like it less when you put it back on. Who in here could properly

articulate to the our female listeners that a woman being outside and a guy

being outside is not the same. Mel, no, that's not for me to [ __ ] have that conversation. That's for y'all. Double

standard. Is there Is there anyone here? Well, first of all, do y'all agree or disagree with that? Or is that like a

Joe Button hot tip? I agree with you. No, [ __ ] agree. It's it's a stigma that comes with it that they don't

understand. They won't and they will never get it. No, they understand it. We understand it of some You just said you

didn't want to talk. We don't care. You guys get You guys get labeled while we get praised, right? You guys the

ability. Thank you. You know what you said? You

guys more charact I don't [ __ ] know. You guys get laid. I think it's actually generational. Actually, we get praised

while you guys are like, like I said, hold up. Let's gender war properly just

for two seconds. Mel, do you have a take on this? I was more so asking the guys, but if you have a take, I'll shut up.

No, cuz what Flip said? No, he said it very succinctly.

Where where women will be the double standard is in play here where women will be penalized for that. Men are praised for it. End the [ __ ] story.

That's what Joe said. Joe said, "Yo, since I men view the two

things differently. If a dude is outside running through baddies, he's considered

that nigga." We all understand that in this room. Yes, it's understood. Yeah. We're all on the same page. We all on

the same page. I agree. Mark, yo, you have to shut up, man.

Up when they fell like city girls, but they was up two years ago. ass [ __ ]

was two years ago, [ __ ] Okay. They not up no more. I don't think [ __ ] was really

dissing city girls either. Okay. No, they were.

Well, thanks guys. Yeah, a rare moment of appreciate that. It's a pimp for Look

at us. Look at us all agreeing. We all agree. It's a pimp colloquialism.

[ __ ] said, "Yo, if one key open a whole bunch of doors, it's a master key."

If a lock get opened by a whole bunch of keys, it's a shitty lock.

What did you get from

He spitt from them oldhead peps. And if the room

agrees with the double standard, why [ __ ] won't sit down, y'all. Is there anybody

They don't care. Can anybody here to articulate freedom of expression? Their body, their mind, they can do what they

want. They don't have to sit down. You want to resist a double standard? I mean, you should there shouldn't be a We We all

agree there is one, but like there shouldn't be one. So, there shouldn't be one, right, M? Why there shouldn't be one? Why shouldn't there be? And what

other ones shouldn't exist? If we want to get rid of that one, we Let's get the other ones out. You know, I I think I

have I have two thoughts on it. The first thought is um the double standard shouldn't exist. people should be able to have liberation and freedom and all

of that [ __ ] I my my problem is sometimes I meet women or I encounter women both in music or in real life who

start to do make choices that I don't think they even appreciate or like uh

and and convince themselves that they're being free. Convince themselves, you know, cuz sometimes when you're oppressed, the only vision of freedom is

to be like your oppressor. So it's like, oh, I'm going to do what these [ __ ] is doing. They not happy doing that [ __ ] That's that's what I find. Hey, the part

that they don't understand. A lot of [ __ ] ain't happy doing that [ __ ] So why won't they sit down, Mark?

Somewhere in. It's It's like that thing you ran earlier. That [ __ ] uh what you read at the beginning of the show when when the woman was talking about all the

[ __ ] with feelings. It's like a lot of that [ __ ] is true, but it's just the other extreme. We went too far in one

direction. So now like we got to pull it back a little bit. Like I think women should be outside more. I think they should be able to make choices and not

be hemmed up. But we also don't want to think that just [ __ ] your way through the summer is gonna make you happy any more than it does for dudes. They trying

to just keep up with the [ __ ] Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And we ain't happy sometimes doing we not happy just going to Cynthia and

then Martha's house an hour later and then you

married look [ __ ] get no ass. Look at the

assless the assless crew. I'm married. Watch out. I'm married. I'm married with you. You should be in the ass.

I am with the way you say. You got handcuff and you [ __ ] you can't move or burp without [ __ ] permission. [ __ ]

watch y'all [ __ ] about when y'all talk with me. What you talking about? You in the same alleged I am in the same house.

Allegedly. Alleged playing with my wife. I'm not playing with your wife. I'm not playing with my [ __ ] family, [ __ ]

Let her free, [ __ ] She's free. Let her [ __ ] free. Go in the house sometime, [ __ ]

I know exact. Yeah. Yeah. Mark that. He said I got to

ask him. I don't know. I don't remember, man. These things move so fast. Go again. I can't remember. He says she can

go anywhere she want. And I know right where she is. And that I'm whimpering.

Let me check right now. Hold up. Please stop. Don't do that. She's at the refrigerator. She

got No, it's all good. You know what I mean? Stop playing with me. I don't want no smoke. Stop [ __ ] playing with me.

You started the [ __ ] You always start with me. Yes. You You be picking and choosing, [ __ ] I don't pick. Stop

picking and choosing. [ __ ] that [ __ ] And [ __ ] you now, Freeze. You talking about pick and choose cuz you can't keep

up with that [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] that [ __ ] That's another double standard though. How come it's okay for women to

track us and not for us to track them? Cuz talking when we doing like when we track them, it's a charge restraining

order. Now they telling they auntie, their whole family pushes

like, but they get to track us. I just don't get Mel. What do you think? I ain't tracking no. Well, the last time I

tracked Do you track your dudes? Don't seem like I don't just mean like flyers on social media. I mean like when you

when you're No, that was a joke. Yo, this [ __ ] is different. See, y'all make

everything a [ __ ] joke. You too, honey. Stop playing with y'all. Yo, y'all did that. Don't take [ __ ] serious.

You talked to this [ __ ] earlier. He ain't listened. See? Yeah, that's being too friendly and smiley with this [ __ ] Mhm. I see that. Yeah. Anyway, when

you're in a relationship, do you do the location in all? No, I [ __ ] don't. She don't. That's what I'm saying. Not all women track men. That's what I'm saying. She don't Well, if you with

somebody, you trust that there was a point in time in there was a point in time in which I did, but I was wildly

[ __ ] immature. So, Exactly. She grew up. I don't do that [ __ ] Exactly. I don't have the energy to do that [ __ ]

You're going to do whatever the [ __ ] you want to do, and hopefully you don't want to do dumb [ __ ] Yeah. Yeah.

for June. I track mine and she track me. I don't [ __ ] what y'all think. I mean, if it's a mutually if it's a mutually

agreed upon decision. If it is a mutually agreed upon decision to keep track of each other's whereabouts and

have the whole find your phone and whatever, find my mate, whatever, then hey,

good on you. You know what I'm saying? Well, look, he heard you. That ain't [ __ ] me, girl. You got that old man

phone ring. Oh, you did. I know your phone ain't ringing fresh

off the Puerto Rico. I know what you're doing. I I just I

just figured out why my dad just mysteriously popped up Wednesday.

Some things just don't change, I tell you.

But Junth, I did go over to the life after. child de and the beautiful people at life after uh Leroy was doing a

poetry jam over there. Fire. Mhm. So me

and my lady who love poetry connoisseur of the arts went to go check

it out. Joe walked in with Shade A and saw how packed it was and made a beline

out the door, went around the corner to come in the back entrance and go straight to the bar to avoid all of what

you assumed would happen, which probably would have. Everybody would have been like, "Oh my god, downtown."

Yeah. Yeah. No, I get it. He did the right thing. Yeah. Yeah. But he did not anticipate it being as packed as it was.

That place was wall to wall. Oh, had to maybe rent some tables. Damn, that that

place was jam jampacked with 95%

women. So, I will ask my co-host, was I the only one that didn't anticipate it looking that way or did you expect that?

I knew it was going to look that way. Well, the first thing you said to me when you came over to me didn't indicate

that you knew that or that you felt good about it. Stop

making [ __ ] up, [ __ ] making [ __ ] up. Let the bodies hit the

floor. Let the bodies [ __ ] up. Yeah. Don't do that to me. What

did you What did you say? Mel, what? I'm lying.

Okay, go ahead. Go ahead. Whatever. Say say you are. You are so dramatic.

Wait a minute. Wait a minute. That [ __ ] hard. Anyway, [ __ ] I was at

the bar with my baby trying to hide and Mel came over to say hello in a patent

leather skirt looking like a snack, looking snacky like a little poptart.

And she said, "So many [ __ ] here. He's such a liar." She said, "Don't even

sound like all these bitches." I I said, "Yeah,

you and I [Laughter]

are here with you." Don't matter if they did a male. Well, that's true. They were

very They were so excited for his visit that they had to have two meet and greets. One before the performance and

one after the shot. Now, you stayed at the one that was after. I got there when

the show started. No, I'm talking about the meet and greet. The post. I was there till past closing.

Let's go. Stop playing with Mel. Yo, let's go, man. Stop [ __ ] playing with her. Cave your prize, boy.

Listen. I love that. Now, now we're not censoring Mel in a room with people that have done

meet and greets, had children for meet and greets. [ __ ] the meet. [ __ ] the [ __ ]

[ __ ] the meet and greet girls, right? This this room is this room is

experienced in meet and greets now. So what you're saying was you hung out for a little bit. Let's go, man. So did you

disclude me from understanding what a [ __ ] meet and greet is? You don't think that I've had a 100,000 of

them lines out the [ __ ] door. Understand who you're sitting next to

her. Play me. Don't play her, [ __ ] Don't sell her short, bro. Big man. Let's go, man. That's right. Miss meet

and greet yourself. [ __ ] watch your [ __ ] mouth. She had no meet and greets all of us combined. Literally, in addition to that, I know

the owners. Where did you have a meet and greet? Where didn't I have a meet and greet? Literally, where didn't I

have every [ __ ] city in America, [ __ ] From Alaska to Nebraska. Watch your [ __ ] mouth, [ __ ]

[ __ ] you talking about? No, listen. The territory. Oh my god. No, what I'm saying is I I know you had

Alaska and Nebraska in my brain from I know you had them lined up. That's not what I'm saying. I know you had them

lined up to meet you. That's not what I'm saying. A meet and greet speaks to something different. Like are you just

talking about I have them lined up to meet you or I'm seriously asking did you really do meet and greets? Yes, because I've had merch before. I've sold

calendars. I've had like my whole line of merch. I've been on the covers of [ __ ] magazines like

Stop [ __ ] playing [ __ ] war, buddy. Atlanta press run.

What was it two months ago? You're on thin ice. I'm standing with you.

Hey, your talk did not work. We got to talk to him again. [ __ ] was

on the meet and greet. Any Oh [ __ ] Okay, I understand that. Thank

you. That's it. You always think everything I say I'm trying to be funny. Sometimes I'm just trying to get educated. That was me. And Marcus is

done meeting. That was me. Freeze. That was me. Let's go, man. Make it noise.

You didn't mean greets. Nope.

You don't greet the meats, [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] Antoine.

Antoine. Nope. And sold merch? No. Nope. Okay. Are you lying, Antoine? You a no

that's that [ __ ] in best face. Nope. He said no. He didn't do me. So them speaking engagements you be booking. You

don't do me. He in and out, [ __ ] The burger spot. Let me say this again for the people in

the back. Say the Spanish. No. No.

No. [ __ ] They said you did a meet and greet though.

Say less. Say less. Bola. Uh, casa.

[Laughter] Caviar. My man, this [ __ ] right here, the PO

box. How many people do it take for it to be considered a meet and greet? Oh, that's where he's getting me. No, he ain't. I want to hear him answer. You

got a charge. Well, he said he never did one. You put your bliss on, [ __ ] I distinctly remember a line of people

lined up to meet him. I can see that at the spot. Everywhere you go, it' be people everywhere. I mean, I lying. Why

you get mad at us? I'm not even remotely mad. I don't know what you talking about. But why you I answered the

question, my [ __ ] I never did a meeting. But why you come up here and don't acknowledge your starter? I never did a meet and greet. What's the

question? You are a star. You are a star. Whatever you say. You a [ __ ] star, by the way.

You a star, boy. I saw you on life after Friday. You was hold on in court, man. People was lining

up waiting to talk to you and [ __ ] [ __ ] at the break. Yeah. Damn. You're that [ __ ] fromy.

Yo, everybody about the [ __ ] jokes today, ain't they? [ __ ] out of here. Yo, ain't nobody Yo,

shut up, man. All right. Well, now you're not against doing meet and greets, though. We going to do one when we go live. Cool. We going to do like a

collective meet and greet or everybody going to have their own little area? It depends. So, I mean, I didn't read

everybody's rider here. So, some people might want to be separate. Okay. I don't

I think we I think we all in together. I think it'd be dope to do all in one room with Flip Mail. Y'all good with that? Mm-m. No, I'm not. I knew he was going

to say I say I for I knew he was going to say that.

How much? And then we're leaving this topic. But my brain won't let me. Yeah. Get

your My brain won't let me do it immediately without being a child. Yo, you're an idiot. You're idiot. Yo, every

week some of the audience is surprised I'm a child. Every week get your question. Every week

I'm confused by it, too. And they just come right back. My question to y'all,

how much should our group meet and greet cost?

Can I answer I don't like doing this. Can I answer a question with a question? Sure.

Go last. All right. Cool. M. How much are the tickets first?

I'm asking y'all how much the tickets. Oh, the ticket to the show. Yeah, cuz that that shapes how much the meet and greet. You mean like say say people pay

50 to get in. Let's Let's call it 50. Okay, let's go. Now I got a number. Okay, it it won't be 50.

Nowhere near 50. Let's be more realistic. Let's There you go. Buck 19ish. Buck 29. 39

149 ticket master and I'm a tweet. Ticket master, y'all. Yo, they whing. They

added an extra. They be put mad fees in here. Yo, I wanted to charge 10. I wanted to do a dollar show. Yeah. Ma'am,

uh I want to kind of keep it a little low just to increase the uh opportunity

for volume. So like between 150 and 200. So 100 for the ticket and then between

50 and 100. No. No. And 150 to 200 just for the meet and greet on top of the $100 ticket. Yeah. Okay. All right. You

think that's low? How many meet and greets you did? [ __ ] everywhere. Mel Melaska. You know

what I mean? Nebraska. Nebraska. Flip. Flip. All right. So, we got 150 to 200

for Mel. Keeping it low. There's a lot of us cuz we want to do volume in the state of this economy. There's a lot of us. Flip. How about flip? Probably like

1500 ish. [ __ ] Is you on your Chris Brown? No. For everybody. $100. Huh? $100. That

was I was about to say I say buck mark 75.

Stack parks. breezy.

You know what I mean? For every They can rub them curls. We're pretty We're pretty popular. They can rub your curl.

You talking about for the for the What comes with the meet and greet? Apparently some meat. If you fucking,000

you selling your [ __ ] for a,000. Not mine. Hey, if they coped the $1,000 meet and

greet, I'm sure I can get somebody from up here to [ __ ] you. Me, too. Nature, trust me. No, all good.

I don't I avoid no elbows. Wait, if that happens, is that power dynamics, guys?

Some other [ __ ] too. I'm sorry. Wait, I think it's power dynamics. You can't

[ __ ] me and Greek. Look, it's power dynamics and sex trafficking going across statewide.

They live there. They live there. The person you're traveling, it's just prostitution. the person that you are

getting to [ __ ] from here. Yeah. I don't know if it's even that Alaska, Nebraska.

I'm still laughing at Flip. What are you pointing to? I said I don't get somebody that elbow.

That [ __ ] be there. He already [ __ ] up. Yo, I'm not But I was just talking

about money. Listen, I done did Oh [ __ ]

He say not just not just me.

That is funny. Yo, listen on listen. I keep pause. I keep eyes on people on the

road. So your behaviors and your tendencies and your patterns. Got you. Like I watch Keeb every morning bag the

oldest diner worker that puts the donuts out. Oh [ __ ] Yo yo yo Joe, what

I'm not saying like a bag like that. I'm talking about be extra talkative to the

lady at the diner or the gas station. Yeah. Or like he

makes friends. Blanch, can I get some extra? Yes. Blanch. Now I do get that part of being

on tour. You do need to have that ability to make a friend that might slide you an extra donut here and there.

No, we need that guy. We need the guy that's going to make friends with everybody for sure. All right, this is my last question and we can leave the tour meet and greet conversation. Okay,

who here will be the make a friend people

at the meet and greet or the tour? Come on, dog. Isani.

Yo, what? All right. So is Shamani. That's makes friends. You make friends. You talk to people. I don't even talk to

No, we're not saying like talk to strangers like that. Big what? What? All right. These [ __ ] get on these mics

and lies about everything. You've been outside. You've been outside with me. I talked to strangers. I

haven't been outside with you in a long time. When you was outside with me, I talked to strangers. Yes.

Yeah. Everything's for the content. It's got You do. I'm the [ __ ] that that everybody up here says I don't talk to

strangers. Okay. I've seen you speak to beautiful strangers

for a long time. For a while. You offer gum. Oh, had a lollipop. That [ __ ] be

having a candy on deck. Oh [ __ ] For strangers. What's that called? Philanthropy. Trick

or treat. He is a philanthrop philanthroish.

Philanthropist. Oh man. Oh, it's okay. It's okay. Mel, do you think you'll make

friends on tour? A thousand%. No. Why? I say I say yes. I say yes. Yeah.

It wasn't even my meet and greet yesterday. Do you know how many pictures I took? That's not making friends. I mean, I I stood and had like multiple

conversations. It's not I don't just post for the pictures. I like stand and talk. You were supposed to be in the house when the meet and greet when you

missing a big one. Stop. Stop. You were supposed to take your little Don't ass in the house.

Don't [ __ ] All right, I'm done with my tour questions and meet and greet questions.

That was funny. That was funny. That's when you know it, too. When the meet and greet line start dwindling down and you

look around straggling and somebody just

they got their [ __ ] ready. Oh, you still

you going down there? You want to come back? Oh, you waiting

for Oh, you Yo, you got you got the greeting. It's always funny when you see the meet

and greet person after the show like at the club or whatever, right? You're like, "Oh, no. My bad." Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. All right. Start. Stop playing with her. Yo, let's move. It's time for my Oh, we did. All right. What

else we got? What else we got of the show? Y'all were talking about me. I wasn't. I wasn't. There was an insinuation. No, not by me. Please stop

playing with me. The This is directed to the [ __ ] room. Stop it. Let's go. Stop it right now. [ __ ] playing

with her, [ __ ] M. Yeah, Mark. [ __ ] is requested to stay there. N you got to Sometimes. Hey, Mel.

Sometimes you got to remind her. It's double for you. Double for [ __ ] But I was reminded

already, [ __ ] I was requested to stay. Watch your [ __ ] mouth. Look at flip. Shout out.

You ever you ever did a meet and greet on Queens Boulevard wherever you be at? Nah. N you be Lynon and Farmers. And why

you say that? My No, I happened to meet and greet. But I just think you should be mindful how you

address me when you talk about that any type of jokes where I'm at right now. Why try to address me properly? Address

me properly. Just should I change the the style in which we joke up here? No, I'm just joking with me. Like, like, but

if we can't joke with you a certain way, and we can't joke with Mel a certain way. You can joke with me anyway. We got to change the entire listen. You can

joke with me anyway, but my response sometimes it brings us into a space where we don't need to be. And I don't want to [ __ ] up the show. I want to keep

it going and keep it rolling. So, I'm just finding a mature way to respond. There's that. There's That's for you.

And and for me, it's pro it's been proven that I can take a myriad of jokes. All the jokes.

Everyone every once in a while I will remind y'all who the [ __ ] I am the [ __ ] I am. That's [ __ ] port right

there. I don't [ __ ] with you. You're included in that. You me? Yeah. Is that

[ __ ] that [ __ ] No. You ain't got nothing to do with me, bro. Yo, bro. You said Alaska. [ __ ] you said she after,

[ __ ] You said she sat at the same by the bar. I know that's what you talking about. I didn't say that. I wasn't

there. I didn't [ __ ] mouth, [ __ ] Uh, ladies and gentlemen, let's get this little back to music. Uh, Jim. Yeah, we

got to talk about it. Jim Jones went on Fat Joe and Jada

Kisses. Oh, look. A topic and a topic. Yeah. Yeah. Little layered. Uh, he went on Fat Joe

and Jada Kiss's podcast and had a lot to say about some dude on the internet that

said Jim Jones is better than Nas and has more Billboard hits than Nas. It It

was a little bit more than It was a it was a young kid. I think he was I believe he was like 23 or something. 22

23. And he was saying that for his generation, his era, they don't look at Nas. And he was like, you know, our

sense of fashion, all of that. Basically, to sum it up, he was saying Jim Jones was more impactful to them than Nas. And then like the kids do,

they start quoting, "Oh, well, look how many uh hits he got here versus how many hits he got here." So, and a lot of

people took offense to that. I personally did not take offense just because of the kids' age of the

generation. And that's kind of what Jim was speaking to like yo I grew up Jim was himself he was saying he grew up on

Nas 93. This kid probably don't have an idea who

Nas is so he grew up on Jim. And I just think these conversations keep happening

where is pitting one generation against the next generation over not appreciating each other. Well, Uh,

that's Go ahead. Let's hear it. I think it's one thing when you're having a conversation with a 23 year old, which

hey, nothing wrong with anything a 23 year old say. They [ __ ] 23. I think

it changes once you get in your peer group or around some elders, which is

the conversation I was looking for from Fat Joe and Jedakus. And they tried they tried to course correct him, but he

didn't want to hear that [ __ ] Uh, when you get around people that know,

you should just be aware of how you sound when you say something. I think Jada tried to be as politically correct as possible. He did. Um, Jada tried to

be politically correct cuz Jim is like, "Yo, dog." Um, it's like a sports

conversation. Like the numbers are the numbers. So if you're saying that this

person is amazing as an MC, but my accolades say something different, I got

way more chart chart topping and [ __ ] And Jada was like, "Yeah, that's one metric." But in New York City with

rappers, we don't necessarily go by that. We going by the [ __ ] that we know get busy. Wait, but Nas isn't just

a New York City rapper. No, I'm talking about but Jada saying to New York City rappers when we start to evaluate and

assess hip hop, we going by the [ __ ] that get busy. Okay, cuz that's where we

come from. [ __ ] that get busy. Clue tapes. I don't give a [ __ ] what your bop was on a clue tape. You had to get busy

or you wasn't going to make the clue tape. It's the same way Push A Totally disregarded anything Travis Scott has to

say because you ain't a rapper. That is exactly what he said. He said, "Yo, to

rappers, yes, Travis Scott is the bigger act. More hits, more numbers, more but to the rappers, don't nobody give a [ __ ]

about what Travis Scott is talking about." So, I mean, it's the same thing. Again, they tried to course correct him,

but I think Jim was trolling. So, I don't have much to say about it because I don't believe that Jim Jones believes

that he's a better rapper than Nas, Pushet, and Styles Peak. And those are

the three names that he has said he's better than in the last year. And I love Jim Jones. But I love him. I love him

too. I think all his albums is fire. I think he's a icon and terms of the fashion [ __ ] culturally and Yeah. But

we got to stop the train at somewhere. Nas is a good place to stop that train. Nas is a great place to stop that train for anybody. Yeah. And I I think but Jim

has nasm smoke. That's true. He has for a long time. For a long time. So, he ain't about to sit and give Nas the his

proper credit. Also, from like a rapper standpoint, I want to hear the rapper say they're better than anybody ever.

That's different though. Like, if you're a rapper, you say I'm the greatest. I ain't got mad at that. When you start naming specific people, I'm not mad at that. It it it feels weird to me. Also,

he doesn't have more Billboard entries than than Nas. That's other I didn't check it. He I saw some people fact checking. He don't He does not. And it's

not particularly close. He doesn't have a bigger listing base. I would have thought it was close, but again, I didn't check it. It's not close. And and

even if you remove features, even if you get rid of features, it's not it's just not close. I mean, you look at Spotify and not and these are all metrics I

don't like, but Nas has 9 million followers. I think J uh Jim has like 850

850,000. I mean, the the traditional metric, you look at Grammys, you look at Street, I mean, I love Jim Jones. I love

every album Jim Jones ever made, just like you just said. But I don't I don't think they're on the same planet. I I I don't think that they should be debating

that. See, and that's why it's smart for Jim to insert himself in these conversations. But that's what he that's

kind of what he was hitting at his latest his latest um and he said it up here with us his latest Instagram post

he was saying yo going viral is part of the gig today. Yeah. So basically and

he's like I understand today's game. So yeah I'm going to get up here. I'm going to say whatever. I'm going to go viral.

Yeah. And make business off of it. It's the same [ __ ] he told us. I got to play that game now. But we also got to

respect the culture and respect the history. I mean, I I I don't I don't I don't love

that move. If if you want to say I'm going to go, whatever. Every rapper has a right to say that. But when it becomes again about an individual rapper to me

who isn't on the Mount Rushmore, or at least in everybody's Mount Rushmore conversation, I I I don't I just don't

like it. It just doesn't sit well with me. You know what I mean? Again, 23-year-old is one thing. You don't know no better. But grow grown ass men

shouldn't be talking about Jim Jones and Nas in the same in the same conversation.

I'm not talking music with no 23-y old. This is my kid or my little cousin or like somebody

that you got to have a N with me for me to sit down. I talk music, but I don't necessarily want to hear their thoughts.

You know, I want to hear their thoughts on their on their [ __ ] Yeah. Right. Unless you unless you're ahead. Like I

mean, we're sitting here talking earlier about the list. The list and we're talking about people from different eras, but we listen to enough music to

be able to have a conversation about Marvin Gay ortha Franklin or Michael Jackson or Roberto Flack. It's still not the same. It's not personal for me. I

don't even I even if they're ahead, even if they student of the game, whatever you want to call it, you wasn't there.

It's not going to hit you the same. You're speaking from a from like looking just from the window looking in. You

wasn't inside the house. I respect that. So, I'll have conversation if you've done your homework. Your perspective is a little skewed though cuz there's

certain things you just will never get by listening to the Yes. And it's the same thing to us. That's why it's just a

hey, respect whatever you feel, whatever you like over there, young, you got it. I'm over here with this one. I agree.

And I hate when [ __ ] find one isolated person on the internet and make that

person's thought the voice a broad conversation. Like I don't know how many 23 year olds say would would agree. I

just don't I didn't p them. So got to be careful cuz if if you're 23 balling came

out balling came out what? 06 2006. Yeah. So if you're 23 balling wait 2006

was how many years ago? 19 years ago. I mean, you were four when balling came out. But it's still research. Yeah, but

it's still research. No, no, I get it. I'm just saying like I don't This ain't even your era of Jim Jones ain't really

your era like that to me. Agreed. That's all I'm saying. It ain't. Yeah.

Well, Nas ain't your era for sure. Jim Jones say that cuz Jim is still active out here more. No, but I'm talking about

more in like No, you might see Jim with Cash Cobain. You might see Jim with some

of the acts that resonate with That's true. Nas is going to be with the Nas is with Slick Rick and Grap and the

Mass Appeal over here doing some Coinbase [ __ ] and all like he

at a certain dollar amount. I don't I don't care who you think is better. That part's I'm sure Nas is probably not very

at all. What? Although his he is a competitive dude, so I think he would probably be like he's got he still got

rapper brain. Yeah, but some [ __ ] you got to laugh at. Yeah. If you're not, you got to laugh at him. Yeah. Rapper brain don't just pop out when anybody

say a day better than you, right? Like some of that [ __ ] get laughed get laughed away. Yeah. But the masses may,

like I said, he knows how to Jim knows how to play with the with the algorithm

in the algorithm people and the streamers. So that may make more noise than anything else

really. I just like Jim turning up on the J the Kiss Fat Joe uh couch. And Jim

consistently said, "Yo, my goal is a bag." Yeah, my goal is a bag. So, I

don't give a [ __ ] if I got to get up here and say, "Yo, Big wasn't the best rapper." I'm, if

it's going to generate some money for me, I'll say it. That's his goal. He's playing that game. And that is a game

that a lot of people are playing today. Most of them are younger, but he understands. Yo, just putting out a good

album ain't going to do it for me no more. I got to get y'all talking. And he puts out a lot of good albums. And he does.

But so does. All right, since we got Fat Joe already in the conversation, there's some news

that came out since our last show. It actually came out yesterday. Fat Joe sued He is being sued for $20 million by

TA Dixon, a former hype man uh who alleges that the rapper engaged in sex acts with minors and coerced him into

quote more than 4,000 sexual acts to maintain his

standing. This is um huge uh in terms of a story um because it's part of a string

of stories. Again, we don't know the facts of the case yet. We don't know all the details. We're not saying who's right or who's wrong here, but we are

saying that this is um heavy in particular that the the lawsuit says

that Fat Joe Joseph Antonio Cartahena engaged in coercive labor exploitation,

financial fraud, sexual manipulation, violent intimidation, and psychological

coercion. And this was filed in US District Southern Court. This is basically another It looks like a fed

thing. It's 157 page document. Uh, and just to add this last piece to it, again, his former hype man, uh, worked

with him for 16 years. Uh, and according to the complaint, he had an he had a

quote unrivaled vantage point to observe the rapper's offstage lifestyle and

behavior. So, and we want to we got to add this is a counter suit. Yeah, cuz Fat Joe sued him first for defamation

back in April. Gotcha. So, he's he says I'm a fat Joe and then this becomes the counter suit. This is This is

interesting. He says the vet joke forced him quote into humiliating situations including sex acts performed under

duress and surveillance accompanied by threats of abandonment in foreign countries if he refused compliance. And

he again he says the number was up to uh 4,000. Then he adds uh there's a Jane

Doe involved in this and he says he personally witnessed Fat Joe engage in sexual relations with children who were 15 and 16 years old. and he lists three

uh Jane Do Jane Does including a 16-year-old Dominican girl in New York who quote in exchange for cash,

clothing, and payment of her cell phone bill would perform oral sex and other sexual acts on the rapper. There's I

don't want to go through the whole thing. You y'all can find it for it for yourselves, but there's two other Jane Does and it's been everything from

paying for uh BBLs to food to all these other things. And this is again this is

a Rico if I'm not mistaken. Right. A civil Rico. Yes. Civil. What is a civil? What is that? Yeah. You got a a civil

recall. Well, I don't know what it is, so look it up. But my understanding is

when you take the company cards and start busting [ __ ] down and using your

legal businesses to pay for illegal [ __ ] Yeah, but that would be a a

non-ivil Rico, right? Criminal Rico. So, he's suing him for money. Civily,

you sue somebody for money. criminal is but it also says claims are are like there's a statute of limitations on

civil RICO for of four years. Please read us the definition. A civil RICO refers to a private lawsuit brought

under the RICO act to recover damages resulting from a pattern of racketeering activity. Essentially it allows

individuals or businesses harmed by organized criminal activity to sue those responsible for the harm seeking

financial compensation. Yeah. So your organized criminal activity uh being

blended with your legal business activities is yeah civil Rico makes sense. I don't know it

makes complete sense. I don't know whether this is it makes sense to me but I feel like you would have to prove the RICO part first though. Well you you do

but just not by beyond reasonable doubt just by a prepoundonderance of the evidence. So in the same anybody that worked for you helped you in any type of

way do some illegal [ __ ] then I mean I think I learned that from the puff case. Puff case. Yeah. The standard civil the

standard of proof in a criminal versus u civil reco is different. In a criminal

case, the government must prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. While in a civil case, the plaintiff only needs to prove their case by prepundonderance of

the evidence. I just mean it's more likely than not that he's liable. Yeah. And so in this case, um unjust and this

includes unjust enrichment, quantum merit, fraudulent concealment, fraud, intentional infliction of emotional distress, and moneyaundering. In this

lawsuit, Rock Nation is also named uh and they claimed that the company, which represents Fat Joe, knowingly

participated in quote, concealing, transferring, and manipulating Dixon's authorship rights and royalty interests

and sought to intimidate, harass, and obstruct the hype man's legitimate claims against Fat Joe uh as well as to

other people. This is why it becomes a civil Rico. They're saying that these acts actually cause him material harm and damage. That's the argument that's

being made. And that and that Fat Joe is running um a uh a criminal inter enterprise. The other defendants are

Pistol Pete Pete Pistol Pete Torres and Richard Rich player uh Jose Petre Petre

this I mean this feels like he had a beef over not getting some royalties for

doing adlibs which wouldn't necessarily be uh guaranteed a royalty situation and

they're going back and forth about it and he dropped the nuke. Yeah, quote unquote. That's what it feels like to me

outside looking in cuz Fat Joe, excuse me, in the original suit, uh, Fat Joe was saying that he was trying to extort

him after he refused to be demanded for ghostriting work. I mean, excuse me, refused to be compensated for

ghostriting work. And so that's when he went on radio um, and Fat Joe, no Dixon,

and said things about Fat Joe specifically. He said that he enjoys high level polit

that he basically said he flies 16 16 year old 16-year-old girl across state lines for sex. Fat Joe sued for slander.

Um and then we saw this as the response and he told Variety which which is my source right now. He said this is the

right way to fight Joe through the system. You can't fight him no other way. Joe thinks he's God. Joe thinks he's untouchable. So again, I don't know

who's right or I don't know the details, but this is this is bigger than I think people thought initially because it's not just that he's saying Fat Joe did

something when you start getting into Civil Rico. The other thing that Civil Rico can do is it as we learned with Diddy and Cassie, it can spark a

criminal investigation. Yes. So, it's Yeah. So, this could go this get huge.

I I don't know if uh I don't know if uh this was given what

Homeboy thought it was given, though. Like because you're basically admitting that you knew if this is true that you

knew that there was sexual activity happening with underage people and you stood by idly and did absolutely for 16

years. But right I think his message you say he was afraid. Yes. Yeah. That's he was afraid. I think that's what he's

saying. If that's the case he'd be more complicit. What do you mean? Mean that you you you

have a he played a role to to cover it up. You was aware you didn't see any issue with it at that time. If that is

the case, well, if he was afraid, but that's what he's saying is that he was coerced into you'll get immunity for your testimony. And them [ __ ] excuse

me, they just use that as an angle. Them [ __ ] don't be afraid. Them [ __ ] be willing participants in I'm not saying

him. I'm just talking about sued for that, right? Thank you very much. Allegedly,

people be willing participants and it's not until things start to come down or things start to change where they want

to use these angles, which is nothing wrong with it. if he felt I don't think in the moment Joe was aware or he made

it aware that he was uncomfortable or I think that he was if it happened because we don't want to assume that there that

he did have sex with underage girls. I don't want to put that on the table either. I'm just talking about whatever but even with the even with the ghost

riding even whatever at the moment I think a lot of [ __ ] just be there for the ride. They there for the ride until

time pass and they start to realize some [ __ ] They don't make it be known in the beginning. Are we in a different is this

just a different era now? I mean, is this going to be the norm from from now on? It's the norm. It's the norm. I

mean, forever. I'm saying the norm. No, it's the norm because you the US is the most latigious place in the entire

[ __ ] world. And the result and it's the result of latestage capitalism. That's just that's just a fact. I guess

that hip-hop seemed insulated from some of that. How? Because hip-hop was based on not snitching.

the street principles and now they those are gone. I couldn't imagine 20 years ago somebody's hype man sue I can see

he's suing him for royalty sue him for money but this particular angle is interesting and again that's not the same thing as wrong with it if if Joe

did what he's alleged to do he should be held accountable I'm just not I'm just haven't seen this level of latigiousness

in hip-hop ever and I didn't know if this was just part of kind of the extension of me too ever since 6ix9ine did what he did and

came back and oh that's interesting people was receptive of it not well but well like the fans not the industry and

the [ __ ] was hopping on records with him. They sort of put that snitcher [ __ ] like this for the new era to me. Look at

Gunner. He was accused of snitching. He came back had a number one was it album. Like nobody looks at it the way we look

at it anymore. It's not looked at it the same. I'm sure that the rat and [ __ ] plays a part. Uh

I think a lot of this is coming from uh financial literacy, poverty. I think

a lot of [ __ ] is coming from poverty. I think that people know now. No, I've

been around you for 20 years. I was your man for 20 years. Let's just say I've seen you do some [ __ ] or I've done some

[ __ ] for you and now we parted ways and now I'm [ __ ] up. I'm back living in

the projects or I'm back, no disrespect to anybody in the projects, but I might not be living under the most ideal

circumstances and I'm watching you still ascend financially. So, I might feel

like, yo, I did mad [ __ ] for you. I'm owed. Mhm. And the only way I can get that compensation is to sue. That's

where no help come because a lot of [ __ ] might have been feeling like that before but didn't know, oh [ __ ] I got I

could sue cuz it's happening all across the same lawyer that won that case with such and such. I'm going to go get them. And the

internet changes uh changes uh how the victim in these instances may feel in

the '9s versus today. In the '9s, you trying to take down one of the most powerful people in the world. You going

to have you're going to have you a pretty hard time. today you can have an audience from day one of support and

people believe in you and some action being taken. So I think there's a lot of things in the pot. Agreed. And there's

more um even before we get latigious. I feel like the internet doesn't help because

people just see you all the time, see you looking good, see you in the nice car, see you with the jewelry, all that

[ __ ] It's a constant reminder of damn, I used to be around this and now I'm not and now it's up. Mhm.

You know what I'm saying? Whereas before it's out of sight, out of mind. Like [ __ ] move to LA. Pop up on a source. [ __ ] move to LA. I don't even know that

he existed. But now I'm watching you every single day with this chain and that chain and this watch and that

watch. Like they just had Joe sitting ringside and they show um him and 50s watches when they went. Yeah. Front row.

They had Joe and he had the uh the rainbow joint on the rainbow Rolex. That's your 475. Jesus. You know what

I'm saying? Like so you like this thing got $475,000. Oh no. Give me some of that, right? I beat this [ __ ] up for you. I did this

for you. I did that for you. No, I'm owed some money. And people might feel like that. You know what? I'm I kind of have like a a statement/quest. I just

learned something um just recently about media liability insurance and I'm wondering if it would protect you in a

circumstance. I'm not familiar. I'm not familiar with it. What? So media liability insurance is basically something that like a media personality,

an actor, a a media personality, a journalist, and one of us could take out and it protects us against, you know,

latigious claims, um, civil suits and that sort of thing. So, it's just I didn't even know the [ __ ] [ __ ]

existed. I was like, I got to get that. Yeah. I mean, it's just something to consider and it was something that I

didn't even know existed. But I just wonder now, which we don't have the answer to since nobody knew what that was, if this would have protected Fat

Joe in this particular situation. No, I don't think it would. I don't think it would. No. No. Cuz this is a

20 years ago. Yeah. This is 20 years ago. Them moving around in different countries doing whatever they doing.

Them in the studio. He said he was responsible for some of the lyrics, whatever the case may be. You know what I mean? [ __ ] like that. It don't had

nothing to do. He said he humping underage girls. Like that's not media liability.

Yeah. Every hype man done got threatened to be left out the country though before.

Yeah. Every hype man DJ sound guy. Hey, we rolling out of here this time. I dare

you to be late like you always are and we taking off and you'll be stuck over

here in [ __ ] bull, [ __ ] Well, is that I don't think that that's necessarily a threat. That's more like,

you know, be punctual, you know, and be according to what Mark just read, you can't tell nobody that you work with

that you about to leave in another country. Or you can't say, "Yo, do X, Y, and Z or I'mma leave you." Right. Yeah.

Like, hold this video camera or have sex with this person or else. Yeah, that's the different. And again, these are

allegations we don't know what's true. What happens? Um, well, Fat Joe's attorney responded.

I didn't know. Yeah, attorney. His attorney responded, said this is a money grab. Said this is [ __ ] Y'all could

look for it, but he said all the things that you would expect an attorney to say in response to I got it. The lawsuit

filed by Tyrone Blackburn and Terrence Dixon is a blatant act of retaliation, a desperate attempt to deflect attention

from the civil suit we filed first, which exposed their coordinated scheme to extort Mr. Cardia through lies,

threats, and manufactured allegations. We didn't just sue a disgruntled former employee trying to revive a false claim

from 15 years ago. We sued the lawyer behind it all. Tyrone Blackburn has a welldocumented pattern of abusing the

courts to harass defendants and generate media attention. Two separate federal judges have condemned his conduct, one

for filing headline chasing lawsuits full of salacious and baseless claims and another for making repeated legal uh

misstatements and personal attacks in court filings. He is now the subject of a pending referral to the Southern

District's Disciplinary Committee. And it goes on to say, "Law enforcement is aware of the extortionate demand at

the heart of the scheme. The allegations against Mr. Cardia are completely fabrications, lies intended to damage

his reputation and force a settlement through public pressure. Mr. Cardia will not be intimidated. We have taken legal

action to expose this fraudulent campaign and hold everybody involved accountable." I think that's the way you

fight it. Like we saying, is this going to be the thing going forward? Is these

lawyers that take these type of Yeah. You got to like how Hov went after uh

Buzzby like that has to happen to now deter other lawyers from just jumping on and just throwing any lawsuit out there

if it's not true. And the crazy part with that is most people don't have enough money to do that, right? Like you

talking about Jay-Z who could go put a billboard out like, "Nigga, I'm coming for you. I'm I'm not the [ __ ] to ex

extort." But everybody don't have the influence to pull the resources in which to do that. And they also a lot of

people don't want to it's it's a waste of time and money to not just settle and for a lot of people for a lot of people.

Yeah. What do we think happens to uh to Fat Joe from here? Anything. Does he continue to go about his day? I think he

does he get low no because that's an indication of like get low. You

definitely cannot get low. He got a new show out. You can't get low. You can get low.

You can get low. You could, but it would give off a some type It would give off an image that some truth in here. Some

truth in here that you're afraid of something if you go get low. I think that's horrible. I think that's

horrible. Yeah, me too. Yeah, man. It's just certain practices that's just real nasty. That being one of them. Like you

should be able to get low when you're going through some things. For my own mental stress and you're under duress

and you're stressed and you [ __ ] up. You shouldn't have to continue to show up with your best politician face and

work because people think that you'll be guilty. It's some of this [ __ ] That's true. I agree. But the people the people

is everything. Yeah. And the people are the one that that moves the needle. Outside of that, too, like if if it's a

baseless claim as he is saying it is, I'm not going to stop what I'm doing.

That don't mean it's not affecting you in a in a in a traumatizing way where you might want to get low based to

protect your own mental health. You want to hear that? Nobody want to be faced with that [ __ ] every single place that

they go. People pointing people, you know what I'm saying? Like those are things that people have to deal with. I

mean, I can see I can see getting low in terms of like being outside like going to dinners and stuff like that.

Although, you know, because there's so many lawsuits now and so many things happen. I'm not sure that this will

carry the same stigma that it would have two years ago or 5 years ago. Tell a person that. No, no, no. You know what I'm saying? The person that this or my

[ __ ] people got parents that might children, my [ __ ] that's seeing this

[ __ ] on TV. You can't say, "Yo, you're just one of a million." Nah, dog. It It hits you. It affects you differently.

You get what I'm saying? It affects your family now. That [ __ ] is in your living room now. Oh, I agree. Yo, you you 100%

right. I'm I'm just I'm saying to give him some perspective. Let's say it's not true, you know, to give to give him some

sort of solace is that, you know what I mean? The world doesn't I don't think the world immediately judge judges people guilty in the same way they did 5

10 years ago or you know I mean how the world feels not just that bro

what does the board think that's another important point before it get to the world you either got a board that's you

either work for somewhere that has a board that's going to do due diligence stand by you investigate try to flush

out facts hire a private investigator or you got a contract huh you got a contract they all have these clauses and

that contract might have a clause that says, "Yo, anything that surfaces, we can immediately discontin our contract

has a million sentences that gives the company an out. If you are valuable enough, then they don't they don't lead

that that way. They go and talk to some people and see if we can fix this. Can

we keep this guy or just try to be quiet for a little bit?" So, but to but to your point about it being in your living

room stuff, these ain't just claims like, "Oh, he robbed somebody. He stole some money from You know what I'm saying? The claims in here can cause

some uncomfortable conversations in your family, right? He's married, bro. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? You're married. You know what I mean? It's [ __ ] like that, bro. Like, again, to Isa's point, they saying, "Yo, he sto he beat

me for $10 million. I'll take that before some of the other [ __ ] that he is being accused of." Yeah.

My wife is the one I can go home and tell, yo, somebody's trying some [ __ ] to shake down, yada yada yada.

The company, not so much. Yeah. Right. I would imagine that your family would you would have enough equity with your

family of all people to be like, "Yeah, this is not true." Or you don't have

enough equity with your family. So when your family reads it, they know it's true, right? Or they know what's true and what's not. Like she might not have

been 15. She might have been 25, but I know you [ __ ] on the road. I'm not saying Joe. I'm just saying in general. Cuz that's one of the one of the reasons

this is this works is because a lot of times the person, the lawyer, the rapper, the whoever it is, the celebrity

doesn't want even the [ __ ] that's not illegal. They don't want my kids to have to read this in a headline so I'mma

settle, right? Cuz a lot of times your defense is she wasn't 16 or your defense was it wasn't 4,000 girl. You know I

mean whatever the defense is might work in the court but it don't work at home. She wasn't 16 sounds nuts too, right? I

get it. Kobe's defense. Yo, it was consensual, right? You still got to face

your wife, my [ __ ] Exactly. Exactly. So let's There's another story that I wanted to get y'all take on. Obviously,

for those that don't know, the Lakers uh were sold. Hey, GG.

Hey, GG. The Lakers were sold a few days ago. Uh the Bus family after having the

Lakers for four and a half since 1980,881, whatever, uh sold it for $10

billion. It's the largest sale in the history of sports anywhere in the world.

Any four $10 billion. Wow. Um, that's a crazy number considering that Jerry Buzz

bought this franchise for 67 million, you know. Um, it's a great come up.

Obviously, the Lakers have a story legacy. My question is, I think I know what y'all going to say. You're going to say,

"Fuck that." But Jerry Bus probably would not have sold the Lakers had he been alive. Probably not.

In the great words of my man Ian Dunlap, sell grandma's house. And that's the

question I was going to ask y'all. Would y'all feel that ain't grandma's house? Yes, it is. No, it ain't. Well, let me

ask the question for the audience just to be clear. No, it's not. Do you sell the franchise

even though you know your father who made his whole life this would not have? And does the amount over in his grave if

he Yeah. And to be clear, all of the bus siblings apparently did have a meeting

about this. There was not a unanimous decision to to sell the team. No, there

was a majority Yeah. decision. So, somebody somebody in the room didn't

want to do it. Loves their father. Yeah, this where it gets tough. That's why I'm

asking. I'm not selling it. I I wouldn't sell it either. I'm not selling it either. They would have to buy me out. But, um I think what happens is and we

saw I don't know how accurate it is because we've heard Yes, it's super accurate. Then we've heard it's not so

accurate. But in the the the [ __ ] that we loved on HBO Yeah. Show time. Winning time. Um, Jerry Bus

was a passionate guy. This was his baby. This was his passion. He staked

everything in the world on this. I went to borrow money from my ex-wife and my man Rake and little kid. I borrow money

and this is what I love. That don't necessarily mean that that love is going to translate to your children. Right.

Right. So you might have started this thing that has a legacy that could be a hundred years down the road, but your

kids might not care about it in the same manner in which you care about it and they may not want to pay the same

because I heard it's running a business is some other [ __ ] right? Your kids might not want to put that much time and

attention into something that they don't care about as much as you did. So I see both sides of it. Yeah. Like I'm always

and not for nothing, $10 billion in other businesses. Your lineage ain't

going to be suffering. No. Well, that's the thing.

This is the one time in sports history where

I think the conversation becomes warranted because of Listen, they say

the Lakers were valued at 5 billion 5 years ago. Yes. Yeah. And they double.

So to double in five years. Yeah. I'm selling. [ __ ] that. It goes back to what

I asked uh Wle about just rappers or should we be allowed to participate in IPOs? If you're the Bus family, you have

arguably the greatest player to ever exist if not one than two in his down.

Mhm. You're never going to see that. You're not catching that lightning in the bottle again. Yeah. Yeah. We also

just got Luca. Mhm. I don't know if you can get much higher than that. There's not a world There's

not a world situation. Yeah. There's not a world where you say to yourself, "Hey, if we wait a

little bit, we can get more." Yeah. I'm not sure if there's a better time. There is a world that that happens. Describe it for me. Because what happens in in

sports, especially um in in major team sports, certain markets drive the entire

sport. So, people be saying it's some [ __ ] but the Knicks got Patrick

Yuan, you feel me? He was the number one pick. They want certain teams to be good

because it drives the sport collectively. We starting to see the [ __ ] with the two small market teams in

the finals. They get reports on that. So now it would behoove the league to have the Knicks be in the finals next year to

have a Chicago or LA. I just think that even the Luca trade in itself, if you

could surround certain piece Luca with certain pieces, y'all still back in the hunt. I don't necessarily think that the

team what I'm saying to you in this Laker case, I don't think the hunt matters. You have the second most

championships ever. You have the greatest player ever about to do his retirement so long goodbye run. You have

one of the greatest players ever, guaranteed Hall of Famer that just got put in your lap. Like it's like the

perfect storm. They could win a champ. They can win the next two championships. It's not going to matter to their value. The Knicks are the third or fourth with

Golden State now. The fourth most valuable franchise. We haven't won since 73. And a lot of that comes from Madison

Square Garden. And the real estate that the New York City uh commands it leads

into that value in New York. I'm just giving you example. Well, Brian Winhurst to to what you're saying said that uh

team's financials leaked one year and because of the TV, right? It's the TV

rights. The Knicks have TV rights. The Yankees have TV rights. Uh the Lakers

have TV rights. He was saying that because of those TV rights, local and uh

the Lakers made in one week roughly what the Grizzlies made in the year.

Just so you have a good understanding of the disparity between a small market and

not only a major market, but a major market with a TV, a local TV there. There's nothing like it. There's nothing

like it. You also got to think from the buyer's perspective. This is when you would want to buy the Lakers. 10 might

be low to your point that it might be worth more if such and such put a couple pieces around. That's good for the

buyer. True. No, I was at the bare minimum. I got the the LeBron farewell tour and I got Luca here. So, I know

I'll be solid for a year or two. I got LA real estate. This is LA, fam. Like I

think that I was just I was just talking to Joe's point that he doesn't see the team being worth much more in the near

future. I'm saying that I don't think that that's a guarantee. And these people at this level of business, they

do their due diligence. I was Whoa, whoa. I'm with you. I do think that they can become even more valuable. But if

I'm the bus family having that conversation, like everything hit all cylinders right here. Like so let's This

is the same ownership group that has the Dodgers. Yep. Yeah. Oh, Magic in them, right? Uh, Magic is a part of that. And

they already own part of the Lakers, too. They already own 26. They have a certain percentage of the Lakers already. 26% already. So, what what the

sports knowledgeable people are saying is that if you watched what he did with the Dodgers, which was which was find

which was find a way to outspend the Yankees, the Steinbrunner, the Red Sox, they spend like the money is coming out

of a water fountain. So, if you apply that to the Lakers and they kept uh Jeanie on to run the daytoday operations

and apparently she was strapped for some cash and now she is not. They projecting the Lakers to just start bugging soon.

Yeah. So, be interesting to see how this plays out. Congratulations to the bus family. Indeed, Tim Bill is Tim Bill. I

don't care how you ch from I don't know if I would have done it and that's one of my greatest fears

working my entire life to give something to my kid and my kid getting rid of it

in year one and two and the bus family keeps just over 15% ownership still but but that's for a period of time and it's

going to phase out from what I've read it's going to it's a period of time that they'll have the minority stake um but

tough to say no to yeah I'd say it's tough to say no to that just tough to say no to this I'm reading this. It says

they still retain just over 15% of the team. So if I can sell whatever my stake

is for 10 bill and keep 15 and Genie going to keep a job. If they made five

bill in the last 5 years, I ain't going to hold you. I think you can make three to five bill just off LeBron's

retirement season. They're going to make money. Yeah, they make one kill. Money is the understatement. They going to make money. Boo money. And I think they

saw a glimpse of that with Kobe indeed. I think they saw what that looked like. They were the only team

that has a seat to see what that looks like. That's true. Cuz nobody else's farewell tour even came close to what

[ __ ] wasn't even getting a farewell. Like D Way and none of them [ __ ] didn't. Tim Duncan and Durk and them [ __ ] chucked the peace sign up and

went home to their wife. I remember I was at I was at the one when Dirk came up here to Brooklyn. Kobe was getting

gifts and stadiums was giving this [ __ ] cars and you know what I'm saying?

It was a production and Kobe was doing that without his kids there, without his kids on the team. Yeah. Yeah. And people

ain't like him, right? Like be clear, Kobe Bryant uh uh when he was playing

basketball wasn't the most well-loved. Not until the end. Not the Brian knew

it. It's going She's right. It's going to be the entire NBA. It's going to be the ABA. It's going to be the college

player. CBA, TBA, March Madness. It's going to TSA the TSA. Everybody or when

LeBron TSA everybody going to have to give it up. Yeah, you're right. You you you're going to have your control of all

your music at some point if you don't already. I don't know your your personal situation. Do you give instruction? I do. I do. If I don't, but coming up

soon. Yeah. I know. I know. I know. Pump it up in particular comes up soon. I guess my question is, do you give instructions to your kids about how you

feel about them holding on to it? How to handle that as how to handle that? Oh, no. I'm writing it in. Well, how I want it handled, I'm writing it in. I'm

skipping them. Yeah, you can do I'm skipping them. I'm writing it right in the [ __ ] This cannot be sold. This

cannot be yada yada. Yeah. I'm not letting people. Are you crazy? Yeah. And and that's that's where it gets tricky from because the same thing like I don't

want my bookstore to ever be sold. Somebody comes and if Barnes & Noble tomorrow comes we'll buy it for 50 million. What do you say? And and my

answer is no. But I'm also don't know what my kids going. Yeah. You know, it's like Yeah. You said what? Repeat. Repeat

that sentence. If Barnes & Noble comes and says we give 50 million for it, he would say no. I would say no. Well, I

don't know what I was saying yesterday. What I'm saying is I don't know if I want to instruct my kids. No, I don't

know if I believe that. I'm saying there is a number that I sell it for. I'm not going to pretend I 50 mil is that number. It might not be that much. I was

about to say, [ __ ] 50. You got you got to pay. You got to pay. [ __ ] say [ __ ] Bobby. I don't even know that much. I

don't even know personally one time, you know. But like, but my point is, whatever the family business is, I don't

know if I if I want my kids to have full discretion to be able to sell it. But you also want to raise your kids in a

way where they value that thing. You know what I mean? Like I would hope your kids would know the value of your music catalog and wouldn't want to sell it

unless they were just desperate like Well, that's why I put Michael Paul name on my on my shirt too now.

It's hard for them to know the value, dog. Yeah. And I don't know if I don't even write on this. It's just it's not their blood, sweat, and struggle that

Jeanie did cuz Jeanie was a kid. Genie played a pivotal part in that. But

from teenage years, you know what I'm saying? I don't know if um but even in that, bro, again, it may not be my

passion, right? It's unfair for me to be held to hold this thing that you love so

much if I don't have the same emotional attachment to that thing. Yeah. And also, he I might want to go join a Peace

Corp. I might want to move out of the country. I might want to go live the rest of my days in [ __ ] Paris or Portugal somewhere. you got me tied to

this thing out of an emotional guilt. That's not fair. The other thing, too, is he was an entrepreneur. It's not like like it'd be different if he was a ball

player. He was a hustler. He was Yeah, he might have loved basketball and had a big vision for the Lakers, but it was

probably from a financial vision for the a lot of that's how it feels in the the

winning time [ __ ] He was Yeah, he was trying to hustle that [ __ ] up. Yeah, I got the opposite feel. I got the feeling that it wasn't about money for him when

it came to the ladies. about his life, his religion cuz he started doing [ __ ] that was counterproductive for the look

like it wasn't a good financial move to do X be like [ __ ] that. I think it's a longterm play possibly

maybe like I can see if he was a basketball player and was part of the inception of the Lakers and was [ __ ]

married or something. Yeah. Yeah. That would be different.

I see. Quick question for y'all. Sure. Yeah. $500,000 right this second or flip a

coin for 40 million. Flip a coin. Flip the coin. Flip the coin. Mhm.

Flip the coin. I flipped the coin. That's how you know

this y'all all up. I'm I'm taking the 500. Give me the guaranteed. I'm flipping the coin. One in the hand worth

more than two in the bush. Different hands and bushes. I understand two in the bush.

100% of this 50%. I'm I'm I ain't the luckiest. 50% chance. That's what I'm

saying. 50% chance. Like it's either that or nothing over here. This is guaranteed. I'm going to take the guarantee. I'm flipping a coin, too. But

y'all too up. My No, my stance is this. No, my stance is this.

[ __ ] ain't even blinking. 500 grand. $500,000 is attainable, I think, by everybody in this room. $40 million for

everybody in this room. Yes, it's attainable. But the probability of people reaching $40 million in this room

is different. A half a million dollars. Everybody in this room can get a a half a million and has been able to put their

hand on it at one. Now, if you had raised that number to say 4 million. Yeah. Yeah. Four or five. I wouldn't

have took the flip. I would give I wouldn't do the cash at four. Yo, maybe

two. Two or three. I might I might consider that's that's my honest because I know with my information I could take

the three and turn it into 40. You know what I'm saying? Like 500 Go back. You can't take the five and turn it into

three and turn that into 40. Yeah, it'll take a long time though. Take a long time. Take a longer time to

turn zero into it. That's the risk we take. I get it. How confident in you that you could turn three into 40?

Oh, 100%. It's not even a problem. Does it involve these Mexicans again? It's not a probability for me. Oh, these

Jamaicans. Okay. It ain't a probability. Winston get involved. It's 100% probability. How long? Depend how many

balloons they can swallow. I demarked it.

He said I demarked. Yo. Um, nah. Uh, how long would it take

me to turn three into 40? I don't know about that, but it's a guarantee that it would turn into 40. Like, it's not even

a question in my brain. Three years. No. Uh, no. It's going to take more. Maybe five. Five years. Maybe not five. About

five. I mean, there there's in five years. In 5 years, if you don't have the

40 and you don't have the three, what could somebody do to you? Nothing. Cuz I'm going to have one of the two. But if

you don't three going to turn six or seven, it ain't going three to one. One of one of At the very least, three can

give you financial. If you put if you just live your regular life and put three in an interest bearing account, I mean, you'd be fine. At 4% treasury

bonds, you going to still make money off the the That's what I'm saying. It's it creates too much security for somebody

to not do it. Now, if you up then you you would feel the way about the 3 million that we feeling about this 500.

Like, you know, I could put my hands I get 500 tomorrow. You know what I mean? Doing something, but it's hard for me to

get my hands on two or three million just by one act. True. Got it. Got it. So, for in your

instance, right, it would be like they said 2 million or you going to flip 500

million? No. No. I'm flipping the coin regardless. Yeah. Because the zero is valuable to me. The zero is the most

valuable part in that equation. I don't have none of it. No. And you're in a different place. So I'll flip the coin,

too. If I have If I have zero, I ain't gonna lose a wink of sleep not getting some [ __ ] that was there. If it was So

roll the dice. If it was 3 million, I'm flipping the coin. Not me. No, but Joe, if they said 40 million guaranteed or

500 million in the flip, you notin. You're not taking 40 million guaranteed. I'm flipping that coin. Okay. I'm flipping that money. I forgot who I was

talking about. 40 million is a lot of money. Like a billionaire Frankie Beverly. is a lot of money. 500 million.

500 million. Just a chance of it is is enough. 60 and 500. Rest in peace,

Bailey. Man, I feel like Bailey on on Lotto day going in the same store for 60 years and I hit one day, [ __ ] 500

million. I got to flip the I have to. It's like on the game shows. be like, "All right, you can walk away now with

what's behind door number one or your stupid ass could try to pick somebody

up." Yeah. I'm always going to be that idiot. Nah, it depends. That's not true. That whammy come out and start doing a

Michael Jackson deal that game. Press your luck and be like, "Buddy, big money." Big. You

change that to 100 mil, I'm take it. Okay. If you change to 100 mil, I'll take it. Then I'm not going to play the

course. You know why? You know why? Because the other money that is accessible, not saying him, but I know I

get 2 mill or 3 mill. I could work to get that. So I I'm not m I don't mind even 10. I don't mind to take the chance

of flipping the coin. But you don't think that with that mindset, you you know for a fact you can get the

3 mil, right? I can in my mind. And once you hit the 3 mill, it's going to change and then you going to be like, "Yo,

[ __ ] I got three. I know I could get seven. I know I could get 10." Like that's going to change. I think it's I

think I think it's just not saying you guys don't believe in yourself. I think it's just believing that you can you can you can do it. I think there's a third

way of looking at it too is like I came into this with zero million. So

zero I'm too vain [ __ ] I believe in myself. I believe I'm going to make it happen. I'm going go get it. That's it. That's

how I believe. Hey, I'm 49 years old. Right. Right. Let me get that three. Right. Give me

that three. I'm good. Give me the three. I'll take it. And I'm I'm I'm do for the same reason you saying what Flip just said. I believe in myself so much. I

know with three million I can do I can make magic happen. This going what you think?

I'm a give you a pain. No, I would I'm agreeing with you because like after a certain age it's just like you know risk

versus reward kind of thing. And also for me personally I don't have no kids

so I'm not thinking about like legacy and leaving [ __ ] behind. You know what I'm saying? I'm I'm I'm not going to

take the risk for now. Yes. That's right, girl. A thousand%. That's right. Stop playing with her. You hang out any

any mean you [ __ ] feel like, [ __ ] That's who the [ __ ] you are. Living for right. Living my life like it's going.

Living my life like I'm living for the now. Don't judge.

Do your thing, Melly. Thank you. Do your thing, Mary. Do your thing. Look at you.

Shut up. Leave me alone. Um, that was just a quick question. What else we got? What else we got? What else we got? What

else is important to us? Uh, [ __ ] it. Another quick question. What are y'all What are your true thoughts about men

with nose rings? Um,

I don't have no thought on that. I used to think it was like a hoop in the I used I used to think it was gay before,

but it's not like I've seen some [ __ ] rock it. Pause. After a cult, I feel I

have mixed feelings about it, but cuz it was Wait, what is the What did a nose ring have to do with the cult? It was a requirement at one point. We had a no

ring. Are you [ __ ] serious? Which one did you have? I didn't have one. I I came in right after the nose ring era. You still won't send the link though.

Now we know why he in there with a nose ring. I didn't know why. That's at least what he in there with.

[ __ ] A nose ring. Something else up his nose.

What did the nose ring symbolize in the cult? Well, because there was a um the short answer is there was a there was an

era where our dress and our clothes when they were anars in Brooklyn um was Sudanese and so we had to wear like

white jelly beas like white outfits, nose ring um things around our head and

all this stuff. So it was it was just it was just the style and did it. We all did it. He didn't tell us to do it but you kind of did. If he did it, you did

it. I had when I came in we had them little we had we had them little rat tails in the back. What up though? So I

I I just have to Yeah. Yeah. Was a particular like it had to be a hoop, a stud like like did it matter? Uh it was

a small hoop in the middle or on the side? On the side. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. [ __ ] was whing over there. They going

to find a picture of you. I mean connected. It was all connected. They going to find a picture of you with the with the hoop. I'll show you a picture

of me wearing the stuff, but I ain't got no picture of me. He the one that's going to leak the picture as soon as he go on. July 1st, bro. Soon as he get on.

Y'all not hip to this [ __ ] by now. He put it out there. He put it out there and then it

did see Wait, why' you say July 1st? Is that contract renegotiation? Uh, we don't talk about contracts.

Okay. So, why July 1? We don't. And we already we already finished the we just reuped for 5 years. So, um yeah. So,

we're good. Okay. Plenty of outs in there though for a

5year deal. JBN options, MLH options, equity, equity. Shares

dope. I was actually very fair. Yeah. Got it. Well, Mel, as a woman,

what is what is your um uh it's I would say instant turn off. I'm sorry.

Yeah. Okay. Nobody gave their opinion. Don't

let any cravings. Oh, yeah. He can kind of get away with it. Park didn't Park didn't do it for

you. No. Strangely enough, you want to He did such a good job as Bishop in

Juice that I hated him for such a long time. But you got to understand, I was introduced to Tupac when I was like 13,

14 years old. So that's the first impression that I had of him. So it took me a really long time to actually like

him because of that role. So Got you. Yeah. So no answer is it did not do

anything for me because But the Lenny nose ring was cool, right? Like that's a beautiful one. I mean, this is he's a

rock star. So, you know, a lot of the things that he does, he's just he can he can get away with that. We go. It's

true. Stick around at the Lenny meeting for how long you would stay after at the

Lenny meeting. Anyway, listen. This is what I got for y'all. Mhm.

Maybe a stupid question, but I just want to revisit that top 75 list really

quick. Okay. Okay. with Aaliyah as the bar here. I just want to throw some names at y'all.

Aaliyah has a better discoraphy than the Dream. Much more impactful. I want to ask about

Impact. Yes. I would say yes. I'm asking about records. I love Dream, but Yeah. Yes. Okay. Yeah. Mhm. Better discoraphy

than Tyrese? Yes. Yes. I don't think so. Yes. Better

discography than Trey Songs? No. I knew Trey was going to come up. No. No. That's a better argument. That's the

best one for me. Yeah. But yes, but I wouldn't I wouldn't die on that hill. But but I would say yes. No. I think

y'all forgetting some of the stuff. And remember, and also I think y'all forgetting some records ain't records ain't the only criteria. It wasn't I'm

I'm only asking about I don't want to give them to a to a R&B purist Tyrese.

No. But for all of I see why she would make the list over Tyrese. Trey Songs is

a different argument. She don't have a better discoraphy than Trey Songs. She does not. Not to me either. I'm not

going to front. She doesn't. Like I think or better than Trey Song. I could take away a Trey Songs album and he

still might have the better disc in her. True. That's no shots to her, but no

disrespect to her at all. Dab ready is different. Not just ready. Five. It's a He got some [ __ ] All right. He has some

[ __ ] Yeah. All right. So, I won't bother with uh T pay. I would agree. Any other things I'm thinking about? Um, all

right. I don't have anything else that I'm dying to get out. I'm kind of chilling.

How about y'all? Anything? I'm straight. I'm good. Anything? Chilling. Chilling. I know there's normally a rush to the topic board.

So, what's the last thing? I can't read it from here. Trump criticizes non-working

holidays. He tweet Donald Trump tweeted it on Junth that we got to I'm tired of these

non-working holidays is killing the economy. So it felt like a shot against June. Oh, he's not but he's not doing anything to kill the economy. Okay, got

it. That's why, you know. Yeah. Or he not saying nothing against the other non-working holiday. He didn't tweet

that on Columbus Day. He didn't tweet that on, you know. Yeah. They went and pulled up his uh other statements on

Junth like when he was president, right? Oh, I love black people. And you know,

all of that, all of that. Uh, Billboard just released uh a statement about R.

Well, not a statement, just a headline. R. Kelly has been denied prison release amid claims that jail officials are

trying to murder him. We talked about that last time. Yeah. They rejected his claim like this is [ __ ] Stay in

prison. They know this. They know the game. Yeah. Yeah.

All right. Last question I got for y'all before we go. What's good? Does Whitney Houston have one of these? [Music]

She do. You should have heard what you want. What is it? He was playing Whitney

Houston the [ __ ] out earlier. I'm asking you what it is. Joe, stop. I'm asking. I'm not I'm not giving my opinion. Hit

in terms of So what? Wait, what? Go to wait. All right, never mind. Go to wait and out. And play what? From waiting to

excel. Come on, Joe. Stop. Play what from waiting to excel. And play what?

And play what? From waiting to excel. Joe,

I'm about to pull them up. Play. They want you to play XL. Shoot Shoot.

You talking about you talking about in terms of hit level. Hey yo, they want you to play XL shoot.

Bodies in terms of hit was number song in America. Not that [ __ ] Not that [ __ ] If you

talk about number one hits, the song is called Exhale. Shoot. That song is

[ __ ] So name the record. I just I'm naming to you, man. You want to jump in here? Yeah. Yeah. I'm jumping in for everybody. I recognize if you let me

talk. Exhale was the number one song in America for weeks at a time. This song was not If we talking about success,

this [ __ ] bodies that I'm talking about you having ears. But let's do it. Oh, that's if you talk about that's why as you talking about I was only talking

about success. And honestly, you we just be I'm only talking about chart success right now. But you're also But you're

also I will always love you if you talk about chart success. This [ __ ] Kelly don't got no songs.

That's what I'm saying. It depends on what you talking about. If you talking about We heard you. We heard you. Yeah, but y'all just ignoring the point. Kelly, all you can hear is R. Kelly.

[ __ ] weirdos. Yeah, you was over there dancing, [ __ ] With us weirdos, man. He was over there dancing. We saw

another ran off camera to dance. I ran off camera. I didn't run off camera. I went to get some coffee and I don't and

the coffee made you there. It was a little strong

that [ __ ] should start jumping over there when you got off that. Whatever man y combos like going kill unbelievable.

Hey. Hey Whitney, rest in peace. You don't. You out your mind. Y'all said

[ __ ] You're out your mind. I didn't say that. I gave you a song. I'm talking to you. I remember what that song did. I

was out. Okay, let me steal it. You good? I'm 49, bro. Good.

All right. So, you saying this record right here? Come on. Yo, ain't nobody going to do what it did.

It's different vibes outside, bro. No, it ain't hard. No, it ain't just a

heartbeat. No, but listen. Is that just a hard

I think every Listen, everybody in this room will put R. Kelly above Whitney Houston, but it's just No, they won't.

No, they won't in this room. No, they won't. Who Who got who got Whitney Houston above R. Kelly in this room? I do. They do. No, I don't. Oh, yeah.

Y'all R. Kelly is above Whitney Houston to me on the R&B list. I just say Whitney got some hits. That's all I'm saying. Don't

just slow down. I'm saying he was saying Whitney don't got one of them. I'm saying she do. Even though I got R.

Kelly above Whitney Houston. Whitney got plenty of them. Yo, can you save this? My love is your love is one of them. Yeah. We going We got We All right.

I'm out. She got one of these. No, she has no pedophile songs.

She don't got no show me some ID before we get deep. Listen to your mind. You wouldn't be

locked up. Your mind told you no. Look how low you go. Stupid ass. You think that's a low blow? Not. Don't ask me no

questions, [ __ ] Talk about Whitney and all trying to trick me up to have a debate and get me. I want to debate nobody. I'm sitting here, [ __ ] Relly's

a beast, but there's people above him. That's all I'm saying. McDonald's. McDonald's. You being disrespectful. No,

you you doing Yo, you being pop. You're being corny right now. No, you're not. Look at

you trying to make you [ __ ] Make a real fight. You You got enough music in that [ __ ] laptop. And it's just slap.

They mad at me for playing the slap. No, you not. Turn that [ __ ] on. That [ __ ]

know. He know this [ __ ] ain't bad. I love these records.

Let's stop. Let's play. We got something. Yo, Bill, put him on the list. So, it's okay to acknowledge what

he's done. My [ __ ] that's what you break out of Whitney Houston,

[ __ ] Go to them [ __ ] started with Go to them soundtrack. I'm with you on Aaliyah [ __ ] [ __ ] is you talking to

them soundtrack? I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I don't Listen, I don't want you jumping on all these damn money. I'm

done. I'm done. I said I did it. R. Kelly can sell 5 million Star Spangle Banas. He

can't sell nothing right now. No, it's over for that [ __ ] Sell nothing right now. Pack him up.

Whitney song for the minister. I'm sure she has. I'm sure she has.

See, I'm sorry. Kel's Kel's hit. Yeah. Stop playing with

Kels, [ __ ] He miss right. Anyway, all right. We're

done. Thank you. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Mark. You say to Mr. That [ __ ] Mark

[ __ ] You can't play with him. Yeah, I'll play with him. I'm down with you. Um, he told

me yesterday I got nervous. I thought I did something. You spoke to him yesterday? Uh, two days ago. Oh my. Hey

yo, I ain't trying to stunt. Yo, what? What he said to you? Every song. Yo, Mr. Mark, my brother. How you doing, brother

Mark? I can't sound healthy. Since we all the since we kicked the Ethas back in, I did a uh old music R&B. This is

from the Curtis Mayfield uh sparkle soundtrack. This is Artha Franklin. Something he could feel. Yeah. I want

Wait. Yo, hold up though. Yo, Mark. Mark, that is a sleeper. Most people

don't know that she was the original. This generation does not know that Invogue wasn't the first people to make this. You're 74 years old. You know

that. Mark, we have a beautiful guest. I said you could cut it before we started. But we have a It's a good cut. You know

what I mean? It's actually a great cut. Y'all can pretend it's not. We have a beautiful guest waiting. Like we don't have to like Artha. Yeah. I mean Artha

with all due respect. Y'all all kicked Artha back in. I did not. Except Parks.

I can't even outro the show properly with then cut it. I said for the rip if you want. Yo, can you cut please? If you

cut the Franklin off. Cut the the greatest singer America's ever produced. No. And Dawn and them body dishes. [ __ ]

Listen, man. Real good show today. Really really really good show today, man. Make some noise for yourselves.

Huh? Uh, we want to thank everybody that

swung by. Uh, Papa Joe, uh, Ethan Button, [ __ ] Trey Button, Mad Buttons.

I was trying to talk to these buttons about what a work a work day look like.

Anyway, man, really good show today. Remember, if you did not enjoy this show the way we would have liked for you to

enjoy it, your opinion doesn't matter, never mattered, won't matter tomorrow, and we'll be back the same exact time

next week. Like, we would hate to let anybody down. You could count on us. Rely on us to be there like blue magic.

Especially if you didn't like this episode as much as we enjoy delivering it to you. I just want to get that out

there. Uh, keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Hold on. Let her get in a bag, though. Hey,

father. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time, we bid you a do farewell.

Adio vista. Wa. Y'all hold it down out there.

Listen. Anybody doing anything interesting this weekend that we need to hear about? Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Weekend.

Freeze. Going back outside. Freeze party. Freeze birthday party

tonight. Tonight. Uh, Mel, what you want? What you want? Um, I'm working.

All right. Big mail work. I What up? What up, ish? I ain't doing nothing. Just hanging on my baby. All right,

play. What up? I'm outside, too. Going to freeze party. I'm going to freeze party. I know you ain't want to go

together. Oh, God. You know you scared of New York, bro. Do you? But I got you and y'all with me. Y'all ain't going to let

nothing happen to me out there, right? That's a great point. Like I wouldn't let nothing happen to y'all in Jersey City. You don't go to You can't Yo,

sure. You can come with me. Yes, you can come. Can I ride with you? Sure. Definitely. I'll come pick you up in the pink truck.

Shotgun. Or you can sit on all the bottles in the back of the other one. In the pink truck. We going We going to

bring some hypnotic. Yo, you're an idiot. Some lemon drops. Yeah. Get the [ __ ] out of here. Back. Mark, what you

on this weekend? Mark, what y'all going back outside? That's a fact.

That's a fact. Mark, what you going to hit the floor, too? Everybody's hit the floor, Mark. I ain't on nothing, man. I

ain't doing nothing. All right, lie, [ __ ] At least like you need some rest,

man. Huh? No, you need to get some rest. Take a nap. Why don't you go to sleep? I

got turn the internet off. I'm on the Wi-Fi for a little bit. I'm sleeping the whole way. Back in one piece, [ __ ]

Y'all hold it down, man. We'll We'll be back same time, same place next week. Uh, last but certainly not least, the

baddies are insecure. Where the stagnant women want to travel when the close-minded women want you to teach them things, grab you with time and all,

you might need it. Till next time. I'm so far laughed. I ain't going to lie. Oh, I another one on here.

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JBP JBP. Where would you be without the JVP?

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